The Weekly Planet - 394 Space Jam: A Terrible Legacy

Episode Date: July 19, 2021

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Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet Where we talk movies and comics and TV shows My name is James, also known as Mr Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, freshly vaxxed Nick Mason. That's exactly right. Yeah, I am. I'm feeling good.

I'm bloody getting the bloody 5G out. I bloopity bloop. So true. You always say your internet's bad, but I'll give you a boost. No, I have 5G and it's much better now. And look at me, I'm fine. I mean, I'm not fine, but that's not related to this. Those things are unrelated.

The speed of the internet you have in your house is not relevant to whether you're fine or not. It's not going to affect anything. I don't think so. I don't think so. Anyway, yeah, let me tell you I had a great time and I got a lollipop. Did you? What colour?

Strawberry. It was strawberry coloured. That was what I was hoping for. Yeah, it was a good one. I got a lollipop. Did you? But also. What colour? Strawberry. It was strawberry coloured. That was what I was hoping for. Yeah, yeah, it was a good one. It's a chopper chop. Oh, wow. Yeah. I don't like the cream chopper chops.

Yeah. You know what happened, James? What's happened? Because I got one and I'm like, this is a cream chopper chop. Yeah. And then as I'm walking out, I'm like, you know, I'm kind of regretting my choice. I wish I'd gotten a not cream chopper chop. Then I unwrapped it.

Is this true? Yeah, and then I unwrapped it and it was a not cream chopper chop chupa chup. And I'm like, hell yeah. That's the power of getting I think I've gained the ability from this vaccination to. Manipulation of molecules? Yeah, I think so. But only from cream to non-cream candy molecules. And it only works once. Yeah. It seems to have only worked once so far. yeah. That's great though. And I'm bleeding from my eyeballs. That's my 5G though. Yeah. It's unrelated to the 5G you got put in you.

That's exciting. I'm yet to get mine. Thank you. Because we were talking about it before the show. This is boring. I'm so sorry. Anyway, there's no real campaign for like who can and can't get it here or where to get it done.

But if you look into it, you can get it. If you're in Australia, go to hotdoc.com.au. Wow. That sounds like a trick and I'm trying to trick you to looking at a porno, but I'm not. Go there, you put in your postcode and it gives you a big list and you can just. It gives you a big list of pornos.

That's exactly right. Yeah. Great stuff. Oh, and even more important than my health personally is that this week I was on an episode of our friend Sam's Pants Radio's Baseless Speculation. So normally on that podcast they will say watch a trailer for an upcoming movie and then they will rampantly speculate

on what is going to happen in the movie. But for this episode the trailer isn't even out because we're going to talk about Spider-Man No Way Home. So we both wildly speculated on the movie and on the trailer, like what's going to be in the movie. What's going to be in it? I did, I listened to it. And let me tell you, there was a lot of yelling.

It was so much yelling. It nearly came to blows, didn't it? It really did, yeah. It was good stuff. Yeah, I nearly cracked the Joel's heads together. And I'd do it again. What, you'd nearly do it again? Yeah, nearly do it and then I'd nearly do it again.

Terrific stuff. Now, I also recorded another episode of something with them, but it's not out yet. Oh, yeah, yeah. And also this week I recorded an episode of Dave W them, but it's not out yet. And also this week I recorded an episode of Dave Warnicke's podcast Book Cheat. Did you? It's myself and Beck Petratus. We're back together again.

And that is not out yet, I don't think. After your bitter divorce. Yes, that's right. I divorced those two. Terrific stuff. Oh, but that's out this week? I think it's out this week, but I'll mention it again next week. We'll mention it next week. Now, if people want to jump around this week, we're going to be talking about Loki and the next stuff that's going on. That's out this week. I think it's out this week, but I'll mention it again next week. We'll mention it next week. Yeah, terrific. Now, if people want to jump around this week, we're going to be talking about Loki and the next stuff that's going on.

That's right. And some future stuff in the MCU. The multiverse, Deadpool, Netflix and gaming, some Suicide Squad reactions, some Indiana Jones news, and then we're going to talk about the new Space Jam movie. There's time codes below. Shout out to everybody on YouTube because people listen to this on YouTube and there's time codes there as well.

Yeah, nice. I feel like I don't acknowledge YouTube enough. It just very quietly hit 100,000 and I went, all right. Cool, man. But, you know, thank you for people who listen there. We appreciate it. Even though it goes up later, but it's there and you're welcome to it. Well, that's probably because they're lazy, James.

That might be it. Or disinterested in our podcast. Could be both. Could be either or both. Spoilers for Loki. Again, time codes if you're doing a jump ahead. If you've wrapped up the season as we did, there's a video Collings finished it up.

It's the last one of the season. Thank God. Do you like Dan Aykroyd? Do you like still photos of Dan Aykroyd? Or an animated photo of Dakroyd. That's a Dakroyd you can only make with Dan Aykroyd. Do you like still photos of Dan Aykroyd? Or an animated photo of Dakroyd. That's a Dakroyd you can only make with Dan Aykroyd's crystal head vodka. Ugh. I can't even imagine what his vodka tastes like, but I bet it looks like.

Oh, crystal skulls. That's what it tastes like. You ever lick the crystal skull? That's bad, though, isn't it? I know you have. No, they're good. You don't lick it and you're like, mm, this tastes like destiny. Shout out to Lemony Fresh on Twitter.

Lemony Fresh Twitter actually animated Dan Aykroyd. Saw that. Hand-drawn animation. Incredible. But, yeah, we get into it there and we talk about all the spoilers and the ramifications. That's right. We've got a bit more information here because we are getting a season

two of Loki. Yeah. It's also the first live-action Disney Plus show that has a confirmed season two. That's right. We are getting a follow-up to Falcon and the Soldier in a movie, it seems. And we're getting a season two of WandaVision where they're going to cycle through the various eras of radio.

That's right. Like all the talkies. Blackscreen. Yep. They're going to do like radio plays. They're going to do like announcements when the Blitz was on. Yep. They're going to do that War of the Worlds thing where they scare everybody.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be really good. They're going to do Talkback. Yep. They're going to do that War of the Worlds thing, but they scare everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be really good. They're going to do Talkback. Yep. They're going to do Howard Stern. They're going to do Beat the Bomb. Baba Booey. They're going to do Beat the Bomb.

They're going to do Beat the Bomb. They're going to do that time you rang up a radio station and you won an N64 or whatever happened. Finally. They're going to do a whole episode on that. That's right. They're going to do prank calls where they call up and do Indian voices at people.

Exactly, yes. Which was just Australian Radio 4. Seems like decades. They're going to do. I think they call up and do Indian voices at people. Exactly, yes. Which was just Australian Radio 4. Seems like decades. They're going to do. I think they still do it. They're going to do that AM radio quiz thing where that guy ran the quiz and asked the quiz question and everybody who called up just said the word India for like 20 minutes.

Look it up. We've mentioned it before. I cannot stress enough. Collings, look it below, please, who's editing this. Or if you don't know where it is I will give it to you it's the funniest thing in the world

it's a quiz show where everybody just rings up and says the answer is India yeah I don't know like

surely it must have been a planned thing you know some group of people or something like that I don't think I think it just got in the zeitgeist

yeah it also possibly people were in the queue and they're like well I do have the answer, but I could also just say India and it will make this guy upset. Anyway, they're going to, my point is, James, they're going to do an episode of WandaVision where it's just that

and the Vision is the guy asking the questions. Exactly. Anyways, director Kate Herron, who directed every episode of the season, is not returning. Surprisingly, this is a quote. I'm not returning. I've always planned to just be on for this, and to be honest, that's something that just came out, and I'm so excited.

I'm really happy to watch it as a fan next season, but I think I'm proud of what we did here, and I've given it my all. I'm working on some other stuff yet to be announced. What is surprising about this is because it was well-received, but she's not doing any Marvel stuff. There's nothing else lined up for the moment, which is I don't know what that means or I hope it wasn't a frayed relationship, but it's just a bit odd to be like,

I mean, it was just I had a great time and now I'm doing something else, but I don't know. I don't know anything else about it beyond that. I mean, maybe it was just a, you know, I mean, it could very well be, you know, the Marvel experience isn't for everyone, I think, be it an actor or a director or whatever. I think some people are like, you know, glad that I tried it, but this is a system.

Also, she would have had to get super bulked up. Get on the HDH, you know? Oh, my God. Got to crunch your way through family functions. That's right, exactly. God. You're at Thanksgiving, but you're just. You're just doing crunches.

Or you're hanging from a door frame doing those upside down crunches. Yeah, yeah. You bought your own chin-up bar. That's right. She's calling action and cut. She's doing the ropes. But someone who is going to hang around forever is Tom Hiddleston who's just like, I'm going to do this every day for the rest of my life.

Yeah. So we'll see how that goes. But the THR have also reported that Loki will return in Doctor Strange and his very multidimensional adventures, which is coming up. So if people want to check that out. You can't? That's not out. But when it does come out, it will be a pretty big movie.

You're still not allowed to watch it, though. You're not allowed to watch it. You have to listen to this podcast. That's right. The radio version. Yeah. You've got to listen to our spoiler review of that movie and then you can see it.

That's right. Yeah. If you're a true fan, a diehard fan of the movie Die Hard, that's what you have to do. More news, Mason. More news? This is from the D23 Insider. Okay.

So Disney related. Yeah, but this isn't a Disney specific podcast or media situation. Get off it then. I agree. Stay in your lane, D23, whatever you're called. Insider. Yeah. Kevin Feige recently said.

Become a D23 outsider. Whoa. Get out of my office. Get out. Stand in the rain. Hand in your clickbait gun and your clickbait badge. You're off the case, D23 insider. Yeah, Kevin Feige recently held a meeting.

Damn it, he gets results. Yeah. The D23 insider. Yeah, but get in the rain. That's right. Kevin Feige said he recently held a meeting about the rules of the multiverse, Yeah. The D23 Insider. Yeah, but get in the rain. That's right. Kevin Feige said he recently held a meeting about the rules of the multiverse, which is important because, again, if you've seen Loki, it ends with the multiverse being created

or branched out to and it was already there. Or reinvigorated maybe. Who knows? We say whatever, but it's happening. That's right. Or it already happened and it's whatever. I think it's, I mean, you need some hard and fast rules for this because this shit just spirals.

Yeah. This multiverse stuff. And I think there will come a point, probably at the end of this phase, where they're going to want to put a cap on it. Yeah. And lock off dimensions or something or make it so, like, these are the specific rules and you can't travel here for whatever reason or you can't use this Spider-Man in here anymore.

Well, it's interesting because, you know, I think as we've mentioned, DC Comics, you know, they started out with one universe, then they went to two, then they went to three, and then they really cranked it up. And at a certain point they were like, you know what, there's an infinite number of parallel universes. And then they were like, this is too much. And they pared it back.

At one point they put a cap on it. They were like, there's 52 universes. And I think they've. It's infinite again now. It's infinite again now. Yeah. Because of Watchmen. Yes.

Or something. And Marvel have always also said, I think infinite number of parallel universes, but multiversal travel is like far less common, I think in Marvel for whatever reason. You need a special box. You need a special box. That's right.

But where is it? We don't know. Probably Deadpool's got it. Yeah. You need a special box. You need a special box, that's right. But where is it? We don't know. Probably Deadpool's got it. Yeah, Deadpool's got the box. Speaking of, Deadpool has sort of joined the MCU in a Free Guy trailer reaction that he did with Korg. It looked very expensive. See, this is the thing.

This fascinates me. So the idea being it's one of those reaction videos, but at Deadpool and Korg they're watching Ryan Reynolds' upcoming or maybe it's been out for 10 years, Free Guy, and they're like making little quips and jokes. What fascinates me is how's he allowed to use those characters? How much did it cost, as you mentioned? Yep.

Just the logistics of it fascinate me. I think it's obviously a Korg 3D model that they have. I mean, you've still got to render and animate. Yeah, I think it is. It looks to me like it was probably like a real suit maybe, and then they animated the face. Yeah, maybe. I don't think it is. I think it's all CG. I don't know.

But my question is, I guess, what is the loophole that allows him to do this sort of stuff? Because Disney owned Free Guy. Ah, and they also owned Deadpool. Partially. They bought it. Well, they mentioned in the breakdown, but it's one of the hangovers Disney owned Free Guy. Ah, and they also owned Deadpool partially. They bought it. Well, they mentioned in the breakdown, but it's one of the hangovers from the Fox merger and it was meant to be out. That's right, yeah.

And so that's why they can do it. This is also Deadpool's sort of first MCU crossover thing. Yeah, I guess, yeah. I guess. I mean, it doesn't really count because it's a whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay.

I think it's, anyway, I thought it was pretty funny. Does Ryan Reynolds pay for this stuff? No. Okay. Disney would have. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I guess. Maybe, I think it's – anyway, I thought it was pretty funny. Does Ryan Reynolds pay for this stuff? No. Okay. Disney would have. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I guess. Maybe.

I don't know. But, you know, I think it's also smart because Deadpool 3 is in the works. Yeah, yeah. Keep it in the zeitgeist. Do you know what I mean? That's true. Yeah, yeah. It's all part of stuff.

It's all part of – you better believe it. And he has the suit. Yeah, that's true. He has the suit. Assuming that's him in there. No, it is. Okay. There's a behind-the-scenes image where you see him without the mask.

I mean, is that him, though, or has he just popped on set for five minutes? I'm pretty confident it was him. But even you see, like, they animate the eyes, because I think those eyes don't move independently. Yeah, right. Or maybe they made a suit that does. Ryan Reynolds' eyes. He's got glass eyes.

You're right, two glass eyes. Two glass eyes. You see Ryan Reynolds in a movie? They've computer-animated his eyes. It's true. So are you looking forward to Free Guy? I was before they showed 14 trailers. Yeah, I mean, I've seen it really.

We've all seen it. That's the, I mean, they've made a lot of jokes and like, oh, I thought this movie was already out and stuff like that. But honestly, the one joke they didn't make was, hey, haven't we already seen this movie because there's so much of it has been revealed in the trailer and we really know exactly what's going to go on. Yep.

And they didn't do that because it's true. That is right. And in some ways, James, the funniest jokes are the ones that are true. But. I've thought about that. Right? Makes you think, doesn't it? I always thought the funniest jokes are when you lie.

It's just a flat out lie. Oh, yeah. And people get hurt by your lies. I was going to say the funniest thing is when people get hurt because they're hitting the nuts. Yeah. I also love a prank, like a YouTube prank where you say you shove someone over and then you say it's a prank.

And not assault. No, and you run away. Yeah. But then you put the footage onto a social media platform and then you get charged. That is pretty funny. Did you see those guys who pretended to rob a bank? No, maybe I saw a tweet media platform. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you get charged. That is pretty funny. Did you see those guys who pretended to rob a bank? No, maybe I saw a tweet about it.

They ran down, like they had all gear on. Yeah, yeah. They ran down like the steps of a bank and got into an Uber. Oh, so they didn't actually rob the bank. No. They started at the entrance to the bank. Anyway, I think they went to jail. Yeah, okay, sure.

Because like you're going to get somebody shot. Yeah. Like you, fine, I'm okay with that. Sure. But the driver, people around, whatever. Yeah. Good prank. Great prank.

Yeah. Okay, I changed my answer. That's my favourite kind of joke now. A prank. A prank. A crime. A crime. I like a crime.

So I don't know if you saw this this week, but I suspect that you did because you've always got your pulse on hot topics. It's true. Sometimes when there's a hot topic in the news, you might message me and be like, did you see this hot topic? Did you see this hot topic? It's hot stuff, James. James.

James, text me back, James. Just a string of messages. Then it's a voicemail. You've got several missed calls. Then it's a voice memo. You'll text me a voice memo. One of those like bitmoji faces and I'm like, James, you see this thing?

You seen it? Anyway, this is a lot of buildup to something that I probably haven't seen. But go ahead. Netflix, it seems, is moving into the gaming space. I did see that briefly, yes. Okay, yeah, I know. I got your messages.

So they hired. James, you see this? Just should call it Game Flicks. Net games. Net games. James, I'm workshopping in the texts. This is how it goes. Pick the best one and I'll say that quip when we record it.

Pretend it's off the top of my head. But all these jokes, a little behind the scenes, everything I say on this that is technically a joke, it's just me texting you hundreds of times during the week. So they hired Mike Verdue who was a PC and mobile

gaming executive. He was also a vice president of game development at a number of places and called Zynga, Facebook and Electronic Arts among others. So apparently, so they are moving into the space but we don't know the specifics of it. There have been hints and leaks towards some PlayStation content,

including Ghost of Tsushima. So people are like, does that mean you can play that through Netflix? Is it like a separate app linked to Netflix? Okay. Is it like a new thing, like a Bandersnatch style thing? Well, see, my assumption based on what you said there was that it would be a sort of like Google Stadia where you go to Netflix on your TV and you click the game thing and then they stream the game through your TV even if you don't have

a computer or anything attached. And then maybe you've got a controller or something like that. Yeah, or maybe you could use, if it's PlayStation related, you could use a PlayStation. But it also depends like can you then link your controller to your TV? It's because some TVs probably can't do that. Yeah. Is it Bluetooth or like through your maybe Wi-Fi in your house or something? Yeah, exactly.

Do you need a separate device? Are you going to have to play through your TV remote control? Just turn it to the side. Maybe. Street photo combos on your... Like would it only work if you use the app through PlayStation? Is the game exclusively a game where you have to alter the volume of a TV show on Netflix?

I'd love that. It's just you just pick a show on Netflix and then there's like an animated neighbour who appears in the corner of the screen and is like, it's too loud. So you have to turn it down and it's like, great job, great combo. And you finish the series and then it tells you, oh, no, this show is actually cancelled. They did one season and they cancelled this.

Yeah, they cancelled it. The show that you didn't like that much is gone. That's right, yeah, yeah. It's cancelled. And then you have to test your disappointment. You have to hammer the buttons and there's a little anime, there's an avatar of you and you hammer the button and the disappointment goes up.

You smash through your television. These are really good jokes and I'm glad we workshopped them. I'm glad too. My question was like in Australia, game streaming, it would be bad. Because of the terrible internet. I mean I have 5G. I've got bloody 5G as you can tell. It's true.

I have spotty 5G. But then it's like if it's downloadable, TV storage capacities wildly vary if they have any. Mine's got some amount of gigabytes, but I don't know what it is. Exactly. So you'd have to plug in a hard drive maybe. Yeah. But then it's also like the controller, as you mentioned,

you'd need a separate peripheral, periphery, and then it's like development. Are they developing new stuff or are they also porting over old stuff? Maybe they're sending you an NES in the mail. I'd love that. I wouldn't play it but I'd love it. Yeah. Yeah.

I'll get an original copy of Mario for a million dollars or whatever that one went for. Why did the 64 one go for more? Yeah, I don't know. Good question. Let's ask. There's no one else here, is there? No.

I mean the answer would probably be it went to a deranged millionaire and you cannot know the thoughts of a deranged millionaire. That's how these things work. Yeah, you're right. First reactions are in Mason. For what? The Suicide Squad. Oh.

People love it. They say we love it. We love how violent it is. We love how it's got heart. As I always say with early reactions. Don't believe them. We'll see. Yeah, we sure will, won't we?

But also, I'm feeling pretty good about this one, if I'm honest. Yeah, I'm inclined to enjoy the work of James Garnon, everybody involved. Yeah, let's do it. Pretty good. Let's do it. August 5th, I believe. It's a couple of weeks away.

Shipping when we're not locked down. Yeah, sure. Doesn't matter. It's going to streaming. Oh, yeah, that's true. You can get binge and apparently watch it as you watch all binge things. It's faster, apparently. So we have a terrible streaming app instead of HBO

because Rupert Murdoch, by the way, buys everything on HBO and puts it through a terrible secondary platform at a great cost and it's worse. Great, terrific. So that's for everybody who doesn't know. They know. We mention it every second. I know, but not everybody listens to everything we've ever said,

including us. One more bit of news, Mason. Go on. Deadliner reporting that Antonio Banderas has joined Indiana Jones 5 in, and you're not going to believe this, an undisclosed role. Hell yeah. So. Do you think he's connected somehow to another character

in the Indiana Jones franchise? Wow. So the son of Shia LaBeouf or something like that? Yeah, maybe, yeah. Mutt Jr. So you think he could also sword fight Zorro? What if he's Zorro? Oh my God. But it would make sense because he's the son of Mutt who can also sword fight. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. So great. It's only just struck me that Indiana was the name of the dog and Mutt is also the name of a dog.

Oh shit. He called Mutt, your the name of a dog. Oh, shit. You called your dog a mutt. I nearly lied and went, I knew that. Didn't ever make that connection. Pretty good. It's happened now. Good movie. Did you see, and it's not, did you see,

I saw an on-set photo of some sort of motorcycle stunt. Yeah, we talked about it. Did we? Yeah, and he's got a young man's mask on. Did we talk about that? On this show. Huh. Has he got like a green suit on?

Is it that motorcycle? No, it's not Indy. I'm on the motorcycle. It's a different, it's like a stunt guy. Yeah, and he's wearing the young man mask. Is he wearing, okay, because it looked like he was wearing like a fake, he was wearing a helmet that looked like a fake head. Ah, okay, well he was, I think I know what you're talking about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's wearing like a helmet or like a rubber young Harrison Ford mask. Ah, I see, right. And I think that's his adventures during the war. Oh. And they're doing

some flashback shit. Right, right, right. Anyway, we'll see. Okay. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women

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If it isn't time for a movie review. Yes. Do you feel it's that time? I feel it's absolutely that time, yeah. So Space Jam Lights and Noise, the follow-up, the hot follow-up, I should say, coming 25 years later after the smash hit. Screaming into cinemas. That's right.

And home streaming or whatever. Or whatever. It cost $150 million. Starring the king himself, LeBron James. Mm-hmm. I just want to quickly point out as well, so I watched New Space Jam and just today with my son this afternoon, it was a rainy day.

So you've watched it twice, you're saying? Back up. All right. You're saying this is your favourite movie and you love it. That's what I was saying, yeah. Okay, cool. I might have a different opinion by the end, but at this point that's what I'm saying.

Okay, great. So it was a rainy day. We're now in lockdown again, hopefully for not too long. Hopefully forever. Hopefully. We're like, let's watch a movie. Oh, yeah. And he's starting up some

basketball. Okay. We land on Space Jam. I'm like, this is Bugs Bunny playing basketball. And he's like, yes. Does he know who Bugs Bunny is? Yes, because he's watched one of the animated movies. Like Back in Action. Yeah, but nah, one of the early ones. You know one where they compile a bunch of stuff? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's seen them at the start of like

old movies. And he's seen them on your boxer shorts. Exactly. my silk boxer shorts that I wear. But he loved it. Interesting. Like just loved it. Yeah, yeah. Just couldn't get past how much he loved it. The idea of like monster aliens playing cartoons

and I'm explaining who Michael Jordan is and he's like, this guy can't play basketball, he quit. Like he's just like into it. He's like, how could this be? But I'm like, don't worry about it. He's probably still retained a lot of that basketball information. Yeah, yeah. And he has.

And he really enjoyed it. Would you say though that your son has absolute garbage taste in him? Not always. Okay. Though he does think that new Power Rangers, I mean, sorry, Power Rangers are better than new Voltron, even though he's never seen Power Rangers. And I'm like, you are wrong.

And he's like, you're wrong. And I'm like, you've never seen Power Rangers. You don't even know. But he's got the opinion they're better. Yeah. Okay, right, right, right. Yeah. But so I thought that was interesting.

Yeah. And I also showed him the trailer for this new one and he's like, looks legit. Oh, wait. So I thought you meant the. No, we watched the old one. Old one, okay. And then I showed him the trailer for the new one and he's like, looks legit. Oh, wait. So I thought you meant the. No, we watched the old one and then I showed him the trailer for the new one. Okay, right, right. Because I'm like, I cannot watch this again because it's bad.

It's a bad movie, I think. It's one of the worst movies I think I've seen this year, maybe over the run of this podcast, I think. Jesus, really? I think it had some redeeming qualities. Yeah. So, sorry, I was confused earlier. I thought you meant your son had seen this new one. No. Jesus, really? I think it had some redeeming qualities. Yeah. So, sorry, I was confused earlier. I thought you meant your son had seen this new one.

No. And he was like, and I'm thinking like, okay, well, I guess, you know, it's got flashing lights and monsters and basketball and people flying about and okay, and I'm like, okay, I kind of get it. But I would see how. We're spoiling this, by the way. Okay, sure, sure, sure. Because we just know. There's very little to spoil this movie. I'm not dancing around this. by the way. Okay, sure, sure, sure. Because we just know.

There's very little to spoil this movie. I'm not dancing around this. Yeah, yeah. That's right, yes. Yeah. Yeah. And here's a little- What's the story?

What do you think it was? LeBron James is a bad dad. Yep. But then he's- Actively. Yeah, he's actively a bad dad. And then he gets sucked into a computer and he's got to win the basketball game and be a better dad.

Yep. And he computer and he's got to win the basketball game and be a better dad. Yep. And he does and he is. And his son invented the basketball game. And the basketball game, because his son likes computers more than he likes basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's made to play against his son in the computer game. But also LG Rhythm says if you don't win this game,

I'm going to delete everybody from the Warner Brothers archive, which includes just the Looney Tunes. I don't win this game, I'm going to delete everybody from the Warner Brothers archive, which includes just the Looney Tunes. I don't know. It's not important. There's a Space Jam, and by that I mean they're not in space at all. No. I mean they weren't in space in the first one. I mean they versed people from space.

Cyber Space Jam they could have called it. Called it Cyber Space Jam, baby. Yeah. Anyway, I liked that LeBron had a realistic house, unlike the first movie where they're like, Michael Jordan just lives in just a regular house. Yeah, he just lives in the suburbs. But here he's like, this is my private blue basketball court. You know it's expensive if you've got a blue court.

Oh, you better, yeah. That's some serious shit. But also I think it's got one of the most 90s things in the world where the lesson is generally a movie executive, I mean, and a person in a movie has to be a better dad, which was just every kid's movie from the 90s. Oh, that's what I was going to say. So the one proviso when we talk about this,

there are definitely people who are like, well, you think this movie sucks but it's not for you. Agreed. And I would agree to some level. But I would also argue that the people who made this movie were like, we've got to have a four-quadrant movie. We've got to have all the demographics interested in this. Basketball, Game of Thrones, Sexy Rabbits and The Matrix.

The four quadrants. The four quadrants. Mason texted me Sexy Rabbits earlier, by the way. I didn't. I said Sexy The Matrix. The grandma. Yeah grandma yeah yeah yeah yeah like if you're obviously like if you take a eight-year-old to space jam yeah they're not going to be like oh i understand the matrix i get that reference yeah all that stuff is very

obviously for either parents or to draw people in who would otherwise not be interested in this yes so if you were doing that, you should probably, if you care at all about the production of the perception of this movie or people's perception of Warner Brothers' ability to make a good movie, if you are drawing in people who are going in because they like Game of Thrones or The Matrix or whatever, you should probably make it a better movie. Yeah, I agree. I also think there's a very good chance that this is going to be looked at fondly

in 30 years. Yeah. Kids will grow up with it. They'll see all the other movies and the references. They'll be like, I remember Rick and Morty. Oh, spoiler alert, Rick and Morty are in this. They're spoiling. I know, for 20 seconds.

Yeah. I've just written here, so much of this is just fucking noise. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I explained it to my wife like this. I was like, you know if you saw a movie like Mitchell's Versus the Machines or Spider-Verse? Yeah, yeah. I explained it to my wife like this. I was like, you know if you saw a movie like Mitchell's Versus the Machines or Spider-Verse? Yeah, yeah.

Claire, like, loved Spider-Verse but found it a bit overwhelming. Like, the visuals. Like, it's very frenetic. There's a lot going on. This has, like, the energy of Spider-Verse, but it looks like shit. It's great. It's just grey and blue and horrible.

Everything's got, it's all pixely and I don't know. You look in the background and like on the basket, when they're playing the basketball game, there's a whole bunch of Warner Brothers characters standing around, but they look like the dollar store costumes of those characters. It's fascinating, isn't it? Like there's a version of the mask, but he doesn't, he's not, like he's got the yellow suit, but they've been like, should we get the shirt and tie from the mask?

No. Nope, just whatever we have. Let's get Arnold's Mr. Freeze, but it's a different guy. Yeah, yeah. And it's interesting because. See, looking at that, because it's the. The Danny DeVito penguin is very close. Yeah, there's a Mr. Freeze in there,

and it's the version of Mr. Freeze from Batman and Robin. So he's like not in the power armor suit. He's got the robe. He's wearing a kind of robe. But every time I looked at that I'm like, is that the guy from Harry Potter? Oh, right. The guy with the no nose? But then I'm like, but he's got a nose.

Can't be, yeah. Well, there's also like. That guy's got a name. What's that guy's name? Ralph Fiennes. Voldemort. There we go. But it's interesting because there's gross penguin, Danny DeVito.

And there's 60s Penguin. And, you know, I wrote down some things here. So these are some of the nice things I saw. Robin, Catwoman, Robin again, It, the clown, but it's not, again, it's a weird costume, regular Penguin, Danny DeVito, Penguin, the Mask, Droogs, White Walkers, Flying Monkeys. There's more. Here's a reference that was pointed out to me because I was unaware

of this one. Warner Brothers owns a film from the 70s called The Devils. It's got Vanessa Redgrave and Oliver Reed in it. It's about like nymphomaniac murder nuns. Oh, wow. Is that what the nuns are? Yeah. Apparently they refused to re-release it on Blu-ray like they've got it

but they won't and people like want it because they're like, no, it's too, it's obviously not family friendly but it's like. Yeah. Yeah, so that's. Put it in this, though. So that's the murder nuns from that movie. And they're just hanging around. They're hanging out with Mr. Freeze.

Yeah. You know what else I think makes it look cheap as well? Yeah. Because everybody around the border of the basketball game is a real person. Whereas you look in, yeah, they just kind of, they clearly just got them kind of jiving on a green screen. Yeah. And then like just plopped them in there for the rest of the movie.

But there's no animated characters like among them or CGI characters. So it looks weird. It looks like weird cosplay. And then in the background, there's maybe the Iron Giant sitting on a hill or something. Yeah, yeah. I just think it makes it look worse. What I also found really claustrophobic about this, first of all, the game is also inside a force field and it's also right to the edge of the court.

And I hate that feeling that like they're boxed in and there's people just on the side just screaming at them. Back off, Jack Nicholson. Both 1989 Joker and Jack Nicholson is always right at the front of basketball games. Exactly. I just found that like you could have put a few feet in there. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, I agree. It was very upsetting. But then there would be less room for Warner Brothers IP. Yeah. You know? So that's good. It looks bad. I hated it.

Them doing all their pre-programmed motions. Yeah. Like just, hey, you're dressed as the Jack Nicholson Joker. Just do a little shuffle and then point and then go like, yeah, and then we'll just repeat that forever. Yeah, it's horrible. There's a moment where they're going to visit Harry Potter World and he's like, I love Harry Potter.

I could be Harry Potter because LeBron James gets sucked into the cyberverse and he becomes a cartoon. Would you watch a movie where it's Harry Potter but it's LeBron James? And I say that off the back of saying you watched this. I did watch this. Well, that's the thing. So the pitch of this movie is that Al G. Rhythm, played by Don Cheadle, wants to be famous, I guess.

He wants to escape the Warner Brothers server. So Warner Brothers have trapped this. He's doing the guy from Tron 2. He's doing the Tron, yeah. He's trapped in this server. Yep. And I don't know if Warner Brothers know, but if they do, they're like, yeah, let's trap this artificial intelligence.

I mean, everybody's trapped in there. Yeah, everybody's absolutely trapped in there. And he wants to escape. So his plan is to – Warner Brothers' algorithm just gives Warner Brothers ideas. Yes. And that's not played off as a joke. Like Warner Brothers executives have no idea what entertainment is, so they're just relying on a computer to guess at what people are like.

It's just thrown in there like, oh, look, an idea. entertainment is so they're just relying on a computer to guess at what people are like it's just thrown in there like oh look at an idea and then and they and they present this to lebron but it's just like mashing things together like they're not actual ideas they bring in lebron the water brothers executive bring in lebron and they're like hey lebron this is the greatest idea we've ever had the algorithms come up with this what we would do is we would scan you, your body, and then we would put you into stuff. That is our idea. Game of Thrones or whatever. Our next productions would just be Game of Thrones

with LeBron James in it. Yeah. That's not an idea. And he's like, that's a bad idea. And he's right. I mean, is that the point though? Like that it's intentionally a bad idea? No, but it's not.

But why? If this is supposed to be a celebration of all the cool stuff Warner Brothers has ever done. I guess also because he some liked it. So I guess on some level there must have been like – But he liked the tech aspect because he's a dumb nerd. But I think he also liked the idea of it. Also, how do you reckon LeBron's actual family are feeling?

Like his kids are like, can I be in this movie? They're like, no. No, of course you can't. Of course you can't. But we'll have characters based on you. Yeah. We might not even give them your name. Nice to see Michael Burnham in this from Star Trek Discovery as his wife.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Not his real-life wife. Nope. How do you think his real-life wife feels? Great. She's not in Space Jam New Legacy. But what I just like, I like his family just like, again, by the sidelines.

They've just been told, again, they're all professionally trained actors, and they've all just been told, you just stand here on this green screen and go. Look worried. Yeah. Go, Dad. Go. There he is.

It's go time. He's doing basketball. He's doing that thing he does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice. You know the thing he's famous for? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's doing it right now. Yeah.

Who wrote this movie? A thought that I had was. An algorithm. Yeah, maybe. Let me check doing it right now. Yeah. Who wrote this movie? That's a thought that I had was. An algorithm. Yeah, maybe. I was trying to think of a cutting remark, but I'm like, maybe someone, you know, was forced to write it. Or maybe they got a big paycheck, which goes well done. I feel maybe for the Looney Tunes, you should get comedians to write them.

I agree. Like, I don't know if anybody who wrote this had any background in comedy, but if they do, they should quit. You know what the problem with this is as well? And look, in watching the original Space Jam, like pretty close to After, which I was not looking forward to, that has some decent jokes and performances in it. Bill Murray, absolute highlight.

Though there is one cameo in this that I did like, which we will talk about. Okay. But for this, none of the jokes breathe. Because if you look at original classic Warner Brothers stuff in particular, they're set up for jokes. Say if the Wile E. Coyote wants to drop, you know, he paints a false tunnel. He'll paint a false tunnel. He'll wait. Like you'll hear the roadrunner come and you'll see it coming in the distance. It'll run through the tunnel. Then he'll kind of walk up and you know, and then a truck will come

and then it's a wall but a truck will come through or whatever. But there's like a series of like, you know, it's played out in a way that it breathes and you kind of take in what's happening. But here there's a moment where Bugs Bunny just, it's a second and he paints a tunnel and he runs through it. Then LeBron James hits the tunnel and they're falling off a cliff and then it just, and they they smash cut in between locations. You know what I mean?

But that's the whole movie. And I like the idea also that they made some 2D animated stuff. I think that's cool that they went back to that. But it doesn't have the same feel and energy of any of that classic stuff. And I don't even think the original Space Jam did it that well, but it did it fucking much better than this did. Good Lord. It was written by... Oh, okay, so the screenplay has six names.

Okay, that's a great sign. Always a great sign. And the story has four names. Okay. So there you go. Right. Do you recognise any of the names? No.

Okay, right, right, right. That's not to say, and that's probably just, you know, that's not including people who went, maybe we should. Yeah, yeah. Executives who say that or whatever. Here's something, here's a positive thing that I would like to say, James. Here we should. Yeah, yeah. Executives who say that or whatever. Here's something. Here's a positive thing that I would like to say, James. There you go.

And I've got the name here. Jeff Bergman's Bugs Bunny is really good, I think. It's good. I always, you know, the original is obviously Mel Blanc, no longer with us. It was Billy West who's done it for a number of years. I think he did the original. Okay.

The first Space Jam. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know if there's been anyone in between because I haven't caught up, but I think this Jeff Bergman character, I think this is a very good. Yeah. I think it has the same energy as the Mel Blanc version. Good job, Jeff Bergman. Yeah, I think the voice cast in general is quite good, I would say.

I know people complain because Zendaya is Lola Bunny, and I think there has been people who have done it better. I know. I could not tell you what original Lola Bunny sounded like, so I don't think- I can't remember, but I know, what's her name, from Bridesmaids. Kristen Wiig? She did a version, which was quite good. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Yeah, I just, okay, so I guess my other question is, the Looney Tunes used to live in the center of the earth, hell. Yeah, they lived in hell, that's right. And now they're locked in a server? Everything's, hell. Now they're locked in a server. Everything's locked in a server. Everything's in a server. Don't you think Rick from Rick and Morty would know he was locked in a server?

And he'd escape from the server. Yeah. I don't know. I think he would. And he'd kill all the people that are trapped in the server. And who dropped him in the server or who in the server? Everyone. He'd kill everyone to get out of the server.

And then once he's out of the server, he'd deliver sweet pickle Rick revenge to everybody outside. He'd kill all the executives probably. He probably would. He'd just burn this whole reality and he'd leave for another one, I think. What I also found fascinating about this is about the first Space Jam, which I wish I brought up when we reviewed it. Yeah, yeah. So they are very much concerned that they're going to have to move

to Moron Mountain and perform their cartoons and stand up again and again for eternity, right? Yeah, yeah. But in that movie also there's a moment where some of Michael Jordan's kids are watching a classic Looney Tunes cartoon and then they all walk off. Yes. Which makes me think that they're doing that anyway. Yeah, yeah. No, you did mention that.

Did I? Yeah. Thank Christ. Anyway, what I'm saying, I don't think I made the link that their punishment is just what they've been doing. Right. It's what they love to do. That's my Christ. Anyway, what I'm saying, I don't think I made the link that their punishment is just what they've been doing. Right. It's what they love to do. That's my point.

Yeah, right. So I think if you wanted a summary of this movie, I guess you could, there's a clip on YouTube where it goes, Austin Powers just appears on screen and says, yeah, baby, and then it just cuts from an Austin Powers movie to Casablanca to Rick and Morty in about 30 seconds. Yep. And that's not like an edit.

No, that's the whole thing. That's how long it is. There is significantly less pop culture crossover in this than I thought. And by that I mean like extensive scenes set in. Like that, when people go, oh, it's references to The Matrix and Casablanca and Rick and Morty or whatever, that's 10 minutes maybe? Yeah. And the basketball takes so long.

The basketball scene is so long. Well, it's not only that. The original one is an hour and 27. The whole thing, yeah. The whole thing. This one takes an hour and nine minutes for the game to start. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a very long movie.

It is long. To be this bad. Yeah. And, again, it's that thing of, and again, you know, it's a kid's movie, it doesn't all have to make sense. But if I'm an adult watching this, I've been lured in by promises of Rick and Morty stuff. Yeah.

I would like maybe the basketball game, like the dramatic core of the movie makes some sense or like there are real rules or. Yeah, I think. I love the loony tunes being dumb and silly and silly jokes or whatever. Then don't give me a dramatic thing. I don't care. I guess if you haven't seen it, and by the way, if you haven't, don't watch it.

Just watch the clip. If you're like, oh, I wonder what the Matrix is like. You've seen it. You saw that clip. I feel like we are doing people a service by saying... In a way, we are spoiling it, but I think we're doing a service by saying, hey guys, Rick and Morty a way we are spoiling it, but I think we're doing a service by saying, hey, guys, Rick and Morty is in this. The clip is 10 seconds long.

It'll be on YouTube now. And, you know, it's interesting. But that's what, they're relying on people going, I should buy a ticket to this because Rick and Morty, don't bother. If you want to see the mask standing in the background next to Don Cheadle. That's right. Then, yeah, you can see that. Yeah, yeah.

But you don't have to. Yeah. They should have put Son of the Mask in. Definitely. So Jamie Kennedy would do it. Yeah. So I think it was cool. Like they visited, one of the ones they visited for longer

was the DC animated universe. They did, yeah. And they probably stayed there for a minute, which is a record for this movie. In a way, I think they visited two DC animated universes. They went to the Justice, like the Paul Dini one. And they also went to like one of the modern era Wonder Woman. I think those are separate universes.

Or was that a comic? Because there were panels. Oh, it could have been a comic, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't care. If people are like, actually, don't. Just don't.

No, thank you. So here's a joke that I thought was genuinely good. Okay, great. I'm ready. There's a cameo. I'm going to spoil this joke. Okay. There's a moment where they're losing because it's halftime

and it's Space Jam. Yep. We'll talk about the rules of the game because you mentioned that. I do want to come back to that. And they're like, oh, man, what are we going to do? And then Sylvester or somebody comes in and goes, I found Michael Jordan. And they're like, thank God Michael Jordan's here.

And then they roll in Michael B. Jordan. And it's not like a clip. It's him. He's in it. And it's like it's not so much funny as it is good get. Yeah, right. I think that was my reaction more to. Well, I felt that too.

I felt, well, I went, oh, it's nice to see Michael B. Jordan. He seems like a pleasant fellow. Michael B. Jordan, take me with you. Because you're leaving, right? Yeah. Because, okay, so for people who haven't seen it, obviously all the pop culture characters are at the basketball game. Yeah.

But also Algy Rhythm. Yes. Terrible name also. Algorithm, by the way, for people who don't know. What? You don't. Also a terrible name. His ultimate product is called Warner 3000. That's the best you could do, is it?

The best. Wow, incredible. Because 2000 has already happened, I guess. Yeah, you can't. You can't call something 2000 anymore. This makes it timeless, or at least until the year 3000. This feels like they went, hey, when they did the original Space Jam, they're like, hey, next time we should have something called Water 2000

and they just dusted off the old script and they're like, oh, we can't use 2000. Water 3000? Water 3000. Water 3000. Anyway, Algyrhythm is like, oh, we can put a thing on people's phones and if they look at their phone, they'll get zapped into the server. But it's not an app.

It's a separate device, which means he must have sent that out to people. Oh, right. Michael B. Jordan was like, oh, bit of swag, love it. I just realised I thought about it and it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter. No, no, no. But people from the real world get sucked in. If LeBron loses the game, they have to stay in the server

versus something. Okay, right, right. It doesn't matter. But again, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because obviously they're not going to. There's also a fake out where they decide in order, they figure out in order to win the game to get the last point, somebody's going to have to do like a sequence of moves.

The glitch. It's going to get them to win, but the glitch is also going to kill the person who does it. And LeBron's like, I'll do it. And then Bugs Bunny's like, no, I'll do it. And then he dies, but obviously he doesn't die. Like as if. And do you know why he doesn't die?

Because Space Jam? Sequels obviously he doesn't die. Like as if. And do you know why he doesn't die? Because Space Jam? Sequels. That doesn't matter. And look, I don't think there needs to be like I survived because of this, this, and this, but just anything. Because he's just like, I didn't die and I'm in the real world. Oh. That's it.

I'm sorry, what? To set up the sequel, James. Do you want to say anything else about that? Space Jam, a new, new legacy. An even newer legacy. The newest legacy we've got, guys. Come on, please. This is the freshest legacy we've got, guys.

Come on. Look, all I'm saying is- I'm doing you a great deal here. This is the freshest legacy. I don't need an exact, again, I don't need something that even makes sense. But just to be like, he literally died and disappeared, and then he's like, I didn't. Okay.

Great. I guess. Yeah. That's good for future movies, James, because at any point when any of the characters are in danger, they actually won't be. Yes. So that's good, isn't it? Okay.

So the game, here's how it works. Yeah, yeah. Because his son designed the video game. It's basketball, but it's better than basketball. It's like NBA Jam, essentially. In fact, in the intro, when you see LeBron doing some stuff, they put some NBA Jam filters on him. He's doing flaming basketballs. Terrific. Fl than basketball. It's like NBA Jam, essentially. In fact, in the intro, when you see LeBron doing some stuff, they put some NBA Jam filters on him. He's doing Flamin' Basketballs and Flamin' Basketballs.

Flamin' Basketballs, mate. Stone the Crows. This basketball game is fucking bad. Anyway. Thanks, Alf. Thanks, Alf Stewart. You get bonus points for style. Yeah. Right?

And I didn't like that because it made it really vague. Yeah, exactly. Like what's a point? What's 1,000 points? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes you maybe don't get a point if you get a goal because you'll take the points back. Yeah, if you were LJ Rhythm, terrible name,

and you wanted to defeat the Looney Tunes and you knew that they could do crazy stuff, whatever they want, because they're Looney Tunes, why would you give them points for doing crazy stuff? Yeah. You wouldn't. Well, also, you'd set him up with the Droogs. You'd be like, your team is the Droogs.

Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't set him up with all the nuns. Yeah. That's exactly right. Yeah. Oh, boy. Weird. I guess I kind of liked that he was like, with all the nuns. Yeah. That's exactly right. Yeah. Oh, boy. Weird.

I guess I kind of liked that he was like, these are the rejects. And I guess it kind of is the case because Warner Brothers, they haven't really dusted them off properly in a good 25 years. I know we've had stuff and there was the Brendan Fraser movie or whatever, but there hasn't really been like a big thing. No, they don't have. There's no, because as I understand it, I have not watched any of these. Like Disney Plus has some like new Mickey Mouse cartoons and stuff,

like shorts and things that are apparently quite good. Yeah, apparently it's quite good. But like Warner Brothers haven't done any – No, no, they have done some more recent stuff. Oh, have they? Which is apparently good. Okay, right. Yeah, that's what I was talking about.

Oh. Yeah, also, so he has to play against his son and his son's upgraded himself, so he's also good at fake basketball. And also has Algyrhythm, terrible name. Has he also taken some real-life basketball players and he's also good at fake basketball. And also has Algie a rhythm terrible name. Has he also taken some real-life basketball players and he's turned them into monsters? Yeah, so he's scanned popular NBL and W – not NBL. He's got Andrew Gaze.

He's got Andrew Gaze. And Andrew Gaze's dad, the coach. Yeah, he's got male and female players. Yeah, right. And there's the brow and a guy who's a clock. But he can't stop the granny who knows the Matrix. Two Matrix references in this. She does two Matrixes, Mason!

Just, I don't mind a reference to something, but it's just when it's just here's the thing. Yeah. Here's just the thing that happened in the movie but you've put a granny in there. I hate it. It sucks. It's no good.

It's really bad what they've done there. It's crook what they've done, James. Here's something that I know you loved. What can you do in a rap? That was exactly what I was going to say because not only does he do a rap, I didn't realise this from the context of the clip that we saw, but he does it for style points in the game. Hell, yeah, he does.

He gets lots of points and then they do a little dance afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's only brief but it's really good. Also, so his son is playing for the other team. Yes. And he's like, you don't understand. If we lose, we're going to get trapped. It's the posted situation where they don't tell the son

that you are literally condemning thousands of people to be deleted or trapped in this weird server. Yeah. Controlled by a monster. And then what happens? Is Algyrhythm, terrible name, just going to torment them for thousands of years? I guess. But Algyrhythm, what he didn't count on was that LeBron might become a better father. Yeah, it's just, and so, yeah, they don't tell him.

And then his son changes teams because he realized, like, oh, this guy a father. Yeah, it's just – and so, yeah, they don't tell him and then his son changes teams because he realises, like, oh, this guy sucks also. Yeah. I guess I'll just go back and stand with my dad and then I'll be on the Toon Squad or whatever. I've written here that Granny does the Matrix twice. Here's something else I thought was strange. You know that big red monster?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Looks like a tooth but he's covered in fur. The furry tooth, yeah. That one, yeah. So there's a moment earlier on where they tear his fur off, right? Yeah, yeah. And you see he's got, like, pink skin underneath. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then later in the movie he gets burnt and there's a moment earlier on where they tear his fur off, right? Yeah, yeah. And you see he's got like pink skin underneath. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then later in the movie he gets burnt and he's a matchstick. So I'm like, which is it? Is he a matchstick under the fur or is he like a big pink man? Yeah. Big pink tooth. Which is it? I would say under normal circumstances. It doesn't matter?

Trying to figure out the biology of a toon is irrelevant. But, you know, it doesn't help, does it, in this movie? That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't care under different circumstances, but that kind of stuff where I'm like, just think about some of this shit. Just think about it. The Granny does the Matrix twice. I was also confused at the end when they were winning or did win

and some of the characters in the audience were happy or also sad that the monsters lost, including the original monsters. They were like, oh. But it's also like you're going to be deleted, idiot. And also you're good guys now I think maybe. Yeah, they were just misunderstood in the first one I think, right? Yes. Because they had Danny DeVito making them do basketball. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Yeah, they were just misunderstood in the first one, I think, right? Yes. Because they had Danny DeVito making them do basketball.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was also confused at the end, even though they did set it up technically, that LG Rhythm, terrible name. One of the worst names. Was turned into a poster. Sure was. And that was how he was. That's how it ended.

Yep. Why did he die? Because he controls the universe. He sure does. He could have been just like, I choose not to die. And I choose to delete you all regardless. I guess he just decided to abide by his own rules in the game. Well, that's silly.

Very silly. How did LeBron win? He did a layout. His son threw a thing and he jumped off it. He jumped on it, yeah. Because you can get style points. Because there's no rules. Because you can do style points. I feel like no rules. Because you can do style points.

I feel like with the first one there was no rules, but it was Looney Tunes rules. Do you think you would enjoy this game if you were playing it in real life? If you got it for your PS4 or whatever. Well, there is a game, isn't there? Yeah, but it's a fighting game, I think. There's like a side-scrolling beat-em-up or something. What the fuck?

Why would they make that? I don't know. The original one has a basketball game. But in this one, it's like you're playing this basketball game and your opponents are just pulling random moves out of nowhere and you're constantly losing because you don't understand until you click the button that says believe in yourself or just do some tune stuff.

Be a better dad. Yeah, be a better dad and then you win. Did you like how OG Rhythm Terrible Name turned into a CGI monster man? No, I didn't like that. It was bad. I think there was some interesting monster stuff going on. Like there was a water one. It was called Fire and Water or whatever.

He was called Wet Fire, wasn't he? I remember thinking Horrible Name. Yeah, yeah. Also, I thought initially it was two different people. Same person. Same person, that's right. Fire and Water Man. Yeah, yeah. Same person. Same person, that's right. Fire and water man. Yeah, yeah.

Great stuff. Do I have anything else here? No, crowd's too close. Mike Myers. Sarah Silverman was in this. Yep, so much fucking noise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The commentators, despite one of them being a very funny man,

wasn't very funny. Yep, agreed. Michael B. Jordan, Bugs Bunny's alive. Style points. I'd just tell you something, you're going to be all trapped Bugs Bunny's alive. Style points. I'd just tell you something, you're going to be all trapped in a server or whatever. The granny did the Matrix twice. Yep, good stuff.

Got a tweet here from A. Ron Dallow who says, Space Jam and New Legacy was not very good and takes far too long to get to the actual game part, but I can't wait for James to use this for an As A Father segment. I think my son might like this. Yeah, sure. So I will shy him up, but I cannot watch. That would be an interesting yardstick as well because he would be

brutally honest as well. He would just. Also, it takes an hour and nine minutes to get to the basketball. He was literally on his feet for the entire Space Jam movie. Yeah, yeah. Like as soon as the cartoon showed up, he stood for the entire movie. He saluted. Vax Pete said. Yes. Pres, presumably this is via 5G,

I cannot wait for at Wikipedia Brown and Mr. Sunday movies to recap this new space jam. Has anything ever gone directly to the caravan of garbage? No. No. This is as close as it would ever get, I think. Yeah. I think it will happen one day.

Yeah. I just don't know for what. How much did you say it cost, this movie? $150 million. That's a lot of money, isn't it? It looks like a bad movie as well. Yeah, it doesn't look good. I just mean, like, I know it is expensive because there's a lot of cartoons

and CGI people and they green-screened all those people in Kmart costumes. Yeah, yeah. But design-wise, it's bleak. It's like they got all the you know if you go to like you know hollywood you walk down the strip or whatever and there's all those people who are like can i take it take a photo with me for money or whatever i'm spider-man like that's the level of costuming i think some of those are good i agree better than get some of those guys off the street because they're better than some of the costumes we saw in this get to the naked cowboy

yes that's right. He's probably still doing it, isn't he, Mason? Anything else to say? Not really. It's the worst movie ever. And I didn't expect much. And I know people are probably going to say, well, you liked Ready Player One.

Not really. And this is much worse than that by a long shot. And I also, going into Ready Player One, I wasn't expecting much and I didn't hate it. But I didn't expect much. It is worse than Ready Player One, I wasn't expecting much and I didn't hate it, but I didn't expect much. It is worse than Ready Player One, isn't it? It's so much worse. Because it is essentially, hey, Ready Player One worked.

Sort of. So we'll just do it again, sort of. Just throw them all in again. And I know everything's brands. Yeah, yeah. Like I know that. Everything is like what can we rehash, what can we – we talk about it for the upcoming G.I. Joe,

Cameron and Garbage this week. I know that, but just the blatancy is just – that's what's offensive to be like this is what you fucking nerds like. It's exactly, yeah. Just shoveling shit at us, you know, and doing bad versions of all of it. Word will get around that Rick and Morty are in this and people have got to see it in cinemas. Rick and Morty in cinemas, can you imagine?

It also doesn't feel like anybody made this. It does feel like an algorithm made this. Algae Rhythm. Algae Rhythm, terrible name. Don't you reckon though? Yeah, it does, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing because there's no,

it's not even like there's any sly digs at the idea of, you know, Warner Brothers has run out of ideas and they're just burning through IP. If they put some of that in there, that's what I want, is I want, you know, just some people being like, you've run out of ideas? What I also thought was interesting was like you're putting in the Looney Tunes but once it gets to the game, they're sort of in it, but that doesn't feel like they're really involved in it,

you know what I mean? And I guess they're technically in it and they've got new designs and they're CGI. But when he's like, I'm going to get Superman, I'm going to get King Kong, maybe you should. Maybe that should be the movie. Sure. You know?

Yeah. I just think wouldn't that be interesting as well to be like my team is just filled with like Ben Affleck is on this team as Batman. Nice. Imagine that. Just a series of Ben Afflecks. Smoking Ben Affleck. Yep, that's. Just a series of Ben Afflecks. Smoking Ben Affleck. Yep, that's right.

Vaping Ben Affleck. Chasing Amy Ben Affleck. Yep. Eating a hamburger on his doorstep, Ben Affleck. Big back tattoo at the beach, Ben Affleck. There's your team, I think. I'm trying to think of a title. I don't know. I'm trying to think of a space jam, Ben Affleck. I don't know. There to think of a title. I don't know.

I'm trying to think of a Space Jam bed. I don't know. There's a title in there and I don't know what it is. Somebody think of a poster right here. Mason, you do it. I know. We'll workshop it during the week. Okay, cool.

Is that it? I'll send you hundreds of texts. Also, I know people often say you're too easy on things. Why do you like this thing and whatever? You're easy on this. This is why because this is what I like save it for. This is what I hate. Stuff like this, you know?

Yeah, I agree. So when something comes out and I'm like, yeah, whatever. You know, bloodshot comes out and I'm like, whatever. This is why. Yeah. You know what I mean? I didn't try at all. It's, it's, it's.

Yeah. Surreal. Imagine watching this again. I shan't. There's no reason to. Exactly. The only reason to rewatch it would be to, if you were the person who's like, oh, what's that?

Who's that character in the background? Do I recognize that character? Well, speaking of, Dave Lee, recently on the show, speaking, he also liked this movie. So, you know, not everybody hates it. Yeah. And everyone's entitled to your opinion. Everyone's entitled to my, bloody my opinion, I'll tell you that much. But he is doing, he's working on a massive Easter egg video.

Yeah, yeah. So if you really just want to see who's in it. It'll all be in there. 100% watch that. Yeah. Because you'll do a really good job on it. Yeah. And you might even be like, oh, yeah, the nymphomaniac nuns.

Oh, those wacky rapists. Oh, yeah, great. They're all in there. Let Oh, those wacky rapists. Oh, yeah, great. They're all in there. Let's get out of here, Mason. How do you think they did that? They just needed some live action people. Yeah, I know, but what did they, was there just a guy assigned to just go, here's everything we own, Google everything,

and then just whoever's got an interesting look, just put them in the movie? Because that's why the nuns would be in there. Get a nun costume from Target. But there would be plenty of Warner Brothers movies that are just about businessmen or whatever. They wouldn't be like, put the businessmen in. Well, I think they probably did a few.

But I think it was clearly just Google search, okay, this will make the costume and we're done. And nobody actually thought about it. I've never thought about it. See that agent in there? Like the Matrix agents are in there. They're like, whoa, I'm going to adjust my cool octagonal sunglasses. He looks like nobody.

That's all of them. They just look. I mean, how do you make an agent from the Matrix generic? Yeah. Like that's the idea behind them in the first place. Oh, that fight in Matrix Reloaded where Keanu fights 50 Agent Smiths. That's how you do it. Yeah, I get it.

But do you know what I mean? Like they got to, you know, because everyone's a knock-off version. Yeah. How do you make a knock-off version of an agent? The premise of which is that it's a knock-off. Yeah. Yeah. Of like, just a low res nothing character in the Matrix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they made that for this. I think for me

it is like this combination of like, the premise is so earnest, but the behind the scenes is so cynical. Definitely, yeah. Yeah. That's a horrible combination. If they were like the creation of this is really cynical and then in the movie we're going to be like how cynical is this

and a lot of jokes about how cynical it is, I would have probably enjoyed this. Yeah. Or if the movie itself was really earnest and you could sort of tell from the production of it that the people involved really loved making it and they loved the characters or whatever. I think that comes across in like Spider-Verse, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Because upon hearing we're doing an animated Spider-Man movie, it's like, oh, really? But it shows that, like, look at the difference. They're not that different. They're like really hot properties that they're mashing a bunch of stuff together. Like the Lego movie. That is a perfect example. Again, Warner Brothers

also just mashes everything together, but it totally works. Anyway, horrible. Let's go to the next. Well, I loved it, quite frankly. I loved this movie. Let's go to the next segment of the show. What's it called? It's called What We Readin'. What We Gonna Read. I agree. I also

think that's what it's called. I muted it. What's it called? It's called What We Readin'. Yeah. What We Gonna Read. I agree. I also think that's what it's called. I muted it. You goose. Don't say that, Mason. Absolute goose. Don't say that. You are a goose. Hank.

Westworld. You're a goose. This is the segment of the show where Mason and I reflect on things that we've watched, read, or listened to. Or going to read, watched. But we don't do that as much anymore, do we? Well, I'm probably going to do it this way because I was real busy. You're going to see Jungle Cruise. I mean, I'm probably going to see Jungle Cruise, yeah.

I watched the first five minutes of... Jungle Cruise. Not Jungle Cruise. What, are you obsessed with Jungle Cruise? You're the one who said you wanted to see it after watching the first five minutes. That is true, yeah. I watched the first five minutes of The Dead Don't Die, which is a horror movie.

It's just come onto Netflix in Australia. It's directed by Jim Jarmusch who did, has done a bunch of stuff, mostly like odd indie things like Ghost Dog, The Way of the Samurai, and Coffee and Cigarettes and these sort of stuff. But it's got a, I'm enjoying it so far, but it's got a great, great cast.

It's Adam Driver and Bill Murray and Steve Buscemi is in it and the RZA is in it because he was in coffee and cigarettes, I guess, and Tom Waits is in it because he was also in that. And it's just about a zombie outbreak in a small town and just an odd bunch of characters. I've heard it's not great, though. I've heard it's a bit kind of meandering. I've heard it's very mixed, but I just...

I keep seeing it there and I'm like, I think I am going to watch this. And Bill Murray's in it, I think I mentioned. It's just everybody... It's a movie where I would just watch every actor in that movie just do anything. It doesn't... Totally. The quality of the movie is largely irrelevant.

I'm just like, I'll watch this. I'll watch Jim Jarmusch direct a movie. Why not? Totally. The quality of the movie is largely irrelevant. I'm just like, I'll watch this. I'll watch Jim Jarmusch direct a movie. Why not? Totally. And I'm also probably going to watch this week, and it's been recommended to us. Jungle Cruise. Yeah, we know.

James, no. James. But you are going to watch Jungle Cruise. Yeah, I'm going to. I love it. I love the look of it. It looks like the best movie from 2017. Hell, yeah.

Just a bit of that Pirates of the Caribbean magic. You know it. I'm going to watch Gunpowder Milkshake, which is also new on Netflix. It's Lena Headey and- Is that out on Netflix now? I think so. Oh, shit. It's Lena Headey and Karen Gillan as like a-

I was going to say Amy Pond, but yes, you are correct. Who are a mother and daughter and they are also both assassins, I think. And they love a gunpowder milkshake. Apparently so, yeah. Apparently so, yeah. That's what I like about it. There you go. Okay, well, listen.

James, what are you? Well, this isn't technically, not to get into the technicalities of it, but of what we're reading here, but I've spent the week researching different arcade cabinets off the back of our discussion last week. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How I kept talking about how I'm going to buy a Daytona cabinet for some reason. Okay, just FYI, I don't think it's on Netflix yet.

Okay, there you go. Well, it will be. Yep, okay, Daytona. Daytona. Just got some answers from a response from people. This is from Two Blind Mice. My unemployed college roommate spent $3,000 on a VR headset, a steering wheel, two monitors, and a stick shift.

He used it for one week. It's from Jay who says, You've got two small kids and you don't get to spend money on expensive things you want anymore. Wait until you are out of the house and have jobs of their own to buy weird shit. Chris Fox says, Get the Daytona. 21st century dad says, Don't buy the arcade cabinet, James.

And Vinton Nugent says, If I'm not mistaken, Gus Bucket's got an arcade cabinet from 1UP and it was no good. What? So I'm sure you got tweeted this week that the X-Men 4-player arcade one came out. I did. I think it was maybe like a comic book writer or somebody tweeted like, would my wife be mad at me if I bought this?

So maybe. I'm going to have to look into the build quality of those though, I think. Yeah, right, right, right. But what I did find after extensive research, there's a company in Australia who make an arcade racing cabinet that just plays literally everything. I'm interested in that game. And I'm like, yeah, if I was going to get it, it's cheaper

and it's not, you know, giant. And you can play something other than Daytona. Yeah, you can play some Mario Kart. But I don't know whether they'd want to make two together. Would they add a gun to it? Well, you can get separate ones. They make other, and you can kind of custom the panels on the side and stuff like that.

I'll just quickly find the name. There was a video game called Lucky and Wild. I remember Lucky and Wild. Absolutely, I do. That was racing and gun because the premise was you were two cops on the loose. Yep. And one of you, well, I guess both of you, had a gun.

But like one of you had a steering wheel. And a gun. Yeah, and the other one had two guns. But I would usually play it with people who really love to drive, so I'd just be like, I'll take both guns. Where is it? Oh, my God. I can't even find it.

But I found this really cool website that seems to do a good job. Okay. I don't know where it is. So less than the $7,000? Yeah, slightly less. Slightly less. Okay, terrific. By slightly less, I mean I think they're like four or five grand

and there's different versions of it you can get. It would be crisper new, but would it have the same feel as the original? Well, that's the thing because I'd want to get some customization. Do you know what I mean? Well, that's the thing. I guess you could go into the, you know, when we're not locked down, you could go into a showroom.

If they have a showroom, it would be like, I'm going to give this one a whirl for five minutes and see how it goes. And what if it doesn't go well? Then burn the place down. It's interesting you say that. It's called Retro Play. So it would be retro-play.shop. They do – again, I've never ordered anything from them,

but they do custom builds and they ship all around the world. Wow. Well, if it helps you make the decision, the significantly less expensive watch that I mentioned, I did end up buying it. Thank God. For more than what it went for? About the same.

What I did is I found their Canadian site, which doesn't ship to Australia, still had the one I wanted in stock. So I went to like a Canadian freight forwarding service and I paid them to buy it for me and send it. Very good. Yeah. You're never going to see that watch.

Never going to see it. Never. No. Just threw my money into the internet. It's going to be a dapper Canadian gentleman walking around with a watch that you don't really want. That's exactly right. Anyway, this is me.

You know, I did want it, but I was hoping it would go on sale. And then it just sold out instead of going on sale. It could still go on sale, right? I mean. You've got it. You've locked it in. Well, I I was hoping it would go on sale. And then it just sold out instead of going on sale. It could still go on sale, right? I mean. You've got it. You've locked it in. Well, I haven't received it yet. You're going to buy that Steam machine that was.

That's what I was going to talk about when you mentioned Netflix gaming. That's the thing that I forgot about. It's called the Steam Deck. Yeah. Big steaming deck. As you know, I don't have a computer for some reason. Like, I don't own one. I know that.

You text me every day. Still don't have a computer. James, I wanted to send you an email on computer, but I couldn't. I had to send it to you on phone. Are you okay with getting it? Is there cross-compatibility between email and phone and email on computer? James, James, you're getting these. James, James.

Don't email me, text me. I don't have a computer. Text me back if you get email from my phone. I've lost my train of thought. Oh, yeah, Steam Deck. So it's a handheld device that allows you to play whatever games you own you've purchased through Steam. But it could also, you can, like, make it do anything.

It's essentially a PC. Yeah, right. That would be cool. Can you stream it to your TV and use that as a... Yes. See, here's the thing, because I think I mentioned last week there were two – we were talking about arcade cabinets. There were two Dungeons & Dragons arcade games like side-scrolling beat-em-ups.

I remember the names. One's called Tower of Doom and one is called Shadow over Mystara. And they're like you pick your character class and maybe you're a wizard and you've got powers and et cetera. Maybe you're a wizard. It's like a Ninja Turtles arcade game but you can choose different paths and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's role play. How do you choose a wizard. It's like a Ninja Turtles arcade game, but you can choose different paths and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. How do you choose a different path?

Is there bleeping arrows and you go up or down? Yeah, there's bleeping arrows, exactly. Yeah, bleeping arrows up or down. You know the drill. Should we switch segments into the letter segment? Or should we just keep it rolling here? Because you're going to have to play the theme and I don't want you to get too excited and forget about it.

Oh, no, I'm going to do the theme. Don't you worry, buddy. I'll continue waffling like I do and then I will do that. Just so we can just get that out of the way. It's not the sort of Damocles. No, that's true. Thank you to the one person who enjoyed that reference. What I was going to say is they're on Steam.

Yeah. So if I had this device, I could just get them. I could spend whatever thousand dollars on this Sandow. Well, it's $400 for the base model, which is 64 gig, and then it goes up from there. But we also, they wanted to keep it relatively cheap. Yeah, yeah. But it also obviously gets more expensive.

But I do wonder about the durability, how long it's going to take, how long it will last. Is this from Valve specifically? Okay. Yes. They will do anything to not make a Half-Life 3. They will build a new handheld computer entertainment device from scratch as opposed to just being like Half-Life 3.

What do you reckon? Yeah. You can only make that sequel you want. They'll do a VR one. We'll do a VR spin-off that one person will play in any given country. And apparently it's amazing. Yeah, people love it but nobody's playing it.

Yeah. What are you doing? I just don't understand what I would have to get in order to play it. You get Oculus and then you go from there. But like some of the headsets are capable of running it and some aren't. It's a real thing. I might get a PlayStation VR the next one when it comes out. Whoa.

But probably won't. Anyway, team song. Letters? Letters. The classic one on when it comes out. Whoa. But probably won't. Anyway, theme song. Letters? Letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. We know they're here right now. We're going to do letters.

So, yeah, is this something you're seriously considering getting? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. What would you shell out for? I mean, there's a three there, which is so people go for the middle one right that's generally the idea what i do if i buy a new mobile phone which i haven't for quite a long time yeah i usually get the best version yeah that is currently available so then it lasts the longest like i don't go i picked 64 gig and it's i've had it for a year and it's full or whatever yeah i want the most capacity yeah

yeah i think you know i think that's the best value in the long run. So I probably get the biggest capacity. I also, you're probably the same, but when I do phones now, I don't go onto a plan. I buy the phone outright. So I'm not locked into 64 months or whatever. Exactly. And if you want to crack it onto a door or something,

you just smash it to pieces on a door handle. Yeah, it's yours. You can do whatever you want. But I also understand that some people don't have that luxury and you know because then paying it off monthly and a plan is you know yeah this might be the way to go but no it definitely did intrigue me i just i want to see how it plays out i don't know whether i'd actually use it or not i just bought this brand new laptop as you know which was very expensive you should get a sponsorship from venom well we nearly did.

Okay, I'll tell this story. Fuck it. Why not? So I can't remember if they reached out or we reached out. And look, they're a solid laptop and I 100% stand by them. I mean, they are, but you have a stack of dead ones, obviously. No, I have two others. It's because you burned them out, I guess.

Yeah, I burned them out. And the first one I got in like 2013. Yeah. And it still worked by the time I got rid of it. And the last one I had for like four years. Yeah, and the one before that I bashed with a baseball bat. That's right. Until it didn't work anymore.

So I think four years for like. I said, if I don't have a computer, nobody can have a computer. I'm starting with you and I'm working my way out the neighborhood. Exactly. Like for something with like, you know, the socket at the back doesn't connect to the battery properly anymore. And like I've riddled it with viruses and whatever else. You know, they run pretty well.

But like honestly, the other one, I still could have used it. But I was like, fuck it all. But anyway, something happened. And they said, if you do a sponsorship, like if you, you know, you mention it every week, we'll give you a free laptop. Okay. I'm like, I'm sorry, you'll give me one laptop if I mention you every week. For how long?

For a year. Yeah, well. And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, no. And they're like, well, we don't do sponsorships. And I'm like, well, I don't do whatever the fuck this is. So no. Sure, right.

Got a little aggressive towards the end there. But I just think that's so like, we'll give you one, but mention us literally every time you do anything. Yeah, right. Get fucked. Right, right. Get fucked. Right, exactly. But again, I like them so I guess this is a sponsorship. James, what you could have done is you should have said,

I'll mention it but every week. You could say you love Venom but you're actually talking about the Tom Hardy movie. I could do that, yeah. Like I love Venom. The Tom Hardy movie. The Tom Hardy movie. Yeah.

I love how my Venom laptop jumps into a tank full of lobsters and eats them all raw. That's what I love about my Venom laptop. Anyway, they're pretty expensive. So you'd probably only need one if you're doing like high-end PC or like lots of video editing and stuff, which to be fair I don't do that much of anymore. Or the most resource-hungry activity of all, editing a podcast.

Yeah, which I also don't do. But I like the idea of being able to dump anything into a laptop and it won't be like this is too big a file or whatever. Like you can literally throw anything into one of these and it just is like whatever. Even as my other one was burning out, it didn't. Bucket of paint? Yeah, bucket of paint.

It didn't really slow down after I dumped it in that bucket of paint. Wow. Yeah. Here's a letter, James. This is from Diego. It says, I am writing this a little bit high in Vegas. Whoa! Hi, James.

I may so love the show. I've been listening to it a little bit over two years now. This week I took a flight to Vegas for my cousin's bachelor party. Vegas, baby. Well, it's not really my scene. My cousin is much more like a brother to me, so I've been saying yes to everything he wants to do like a complete buffoon. It's been fantastic.

Oh, good. It's stressful when you're in charge of like a Bucks party. While on the flight here, I realised I forgot to download any movies or videos on anything for the four-hour flight, so I had to check to see if I accidentally downloaded anything from YouTube. Luckily, I had Pokemon the first movie, a Caravan of Garbage episode for a movie I've seen

when I was five years old and never again. Thank you for keeping me occupied on the plane as I watched it three times in between looking out the window. Can I please be the guy in Vegas who just wants to take a nap off the pod? Thanks again for Diego. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, that one makes no money. Great, terrific stuff.

I appreciate that. That's really cool. Thank you for watching it three times. It must have been all right. Itific stuff. I appreciate that. That's really cool. Thank you for watching it three times. It must have been all right. It must have done a good job. A few extra coins in the old pocket, James. That's right. Here's one from Danny Chong who says,

hashtag weeklypanelpod. That's how you reach the show, or weeklypanelpod at gmail.com. Send Mason a Gmail and he will check it on his phone. He doesn't have a laptop. That's right. But he can. Mate, it's very difficult.

I had to go into the shop and I'm like, how do I get email on phone? Can I use your computer charger to charge my telephone? Yes. He said. I said, can I use your computer charger to get email? Will this Ethernet cable connect to my telephone so I can get an email? James, do you remember when you could only send a text message to somebody who was on the same carrier as you?

I don't remember that. When was that? This was like early 2000s. Or it cost you more? Was that the idea? No, you just couldn't. That doesn't make any sense. I know, but that's how life was back then.

Which carriers? Was that like an Optus thing? Yeah, like if you were on Optus, you could only text to other people on Optus. My understanding was. I remember getting a, I was in. Vegas. Yeah, I was in Vegas. Yeah.

And somebody texted me and I'm like, but you're not on Optus. How are you doing this? Yeah. I'm like, have you changed carriers? And he's like, no, they've opened this up to everybody. It's mayhem. We can now talk. Yeah, that's right.

But you never spoke again to your dad. That's right. And I'm like, well, I'll never get computer again because I don't need it. Well, I thought it was that Optus to Optus was free, but everything else cost you. That's, I thought it was that Optus to Optus was free, but everything else cost you. That's what I thought it was. I know. I didn't get a phone until like 2007 or something.

Okay. Anyways. Things were a little bit different back then. You're not wrong. Danny says, if you enjoy the Russian spy family in America, part of Black Widow, you should check out The Americans, probably the best TV series ever made and with what I believe to be the series with a perfect series finale.

What's like the first four like three years ago? Is Kerry Russell in it? Yes. And another guy who's not Mark Ruffalo. Nice. You know what I mean? That's all I know. Mark Ruffalo-nt.

Yeah. I mean you could have said don't, the Ruffalo don't. Nope. You're right. Worked backwards, got three letters in and I went the rough one don't. Nope. Nope. You're right. Worked backwards, got three letters in, and I went, pretty good. That's what I'm using. I just think you could have sent me a few more texts. We could have got there.

Yeah, that's probably true, yeah. Got another one? This is from Tyler. It says, more inaccurate toys in things. You got it. Hey, James and Mason, following on from your brief pony talk in last week's pod, I thought you might be interested in some other inaccurate placements of toys in films and things.

Yeah. One I personally noticed was in 2014's Godzilla, where young Aaron Taylor-Johnson at the start of the movie is playing with a Lego snow speeder that was released in 2013 despite the scene being set in the 90s. Insanity. Next are two offenders from Stranger Things. Here we go.

Oh, that sounds about right. Here we go. At some point, green Lego is seen, a good few years before they made Lego in that color. People on Lego forums were furious at this, apparently. Also, people on Lego forums, there was also an upside-down universe. So, you know, that also wasn't in the 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And in season two, Dustin has a Transformers Ultra Magnus toy a whole two years before it was released somehow. My goodness. Yeah. They put in an effort to get an 80s toy but still messed up. Yeah. And there's a lot of that stuff in Stranger Things, you know. Yeah.

I think most people don't specifically remember. I think that what happens is they go, like, I reckon it's an on-the-day decision in a lot of instances. They're like, oh, we need something for the shelf, we need something for the kids to play with. Yeah, yeah. What do they have? My Little Pony.

Okay, can you get, go down, go to Target and get a My Little Pony or whatever and they get through the best they can. Like, I think Okay, can you go to Target and get a My Little Pony or whatever and they do the best they can? I think if – like as Stranger Things, I reckon if they had time and money, they'd be like, let's get an authentic – I reckon they'd probably go – like if they've got enough money, they'd probably go get something from Target, win some eBay auctions, or do all this sort of stuff. But I guess I imagine also sometimes maybe you get the authentic My Little Pony,

but it's all yellowed with age because it's literally from the 80s or whatever. And then you've got to unbox something that's like crisp and new, and then what are you doing there even? That's right. Also, wasn't there those green Lego sheets that were grass? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were around, right? I think so.

I don't know. I didn't know green Lego wasn't a thing until a certain point. It was like the green M&M. I remember the green M&M. I remember the green M&M. I texted all my friends. Like, you see this? Some of your friends. Yeah, the people who are on Optus, yeah.

You see this? Stuart Townsend says, hashtag weekly planet pod. It's an unnatural colour. I mean, green is in nature but not in candy. It's probably the most natural colour. Not in candy though, is it? That's true, actually. After listening to the crank commentary,

I think there needs to be more Claire Tonti involved, especially if she is watching movies that she hates. Very funny, keep up the good work. So, yeah, you mentioned to me that a lot of people felt anxiety, didn't they, when Claire walked in at that moment? Yeah. Was that right? Probably.

I did at the time. Just kidding, I enjoyed it a lot. Also, for people wondering, I think maybe we did the director's cut. Oh, yeah, we did too. Yeah. Thanks a lot. I could not tell you what the difference is. No.

Longer? It seemed like the same version I saw in cinemas. Felt the same. Yeah. I don't think it matters. Yeah. We went more off topic than ever before. That's right.

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I found some fascinating stuff about it as well. It's five issues. It's a really good premise. It looks incredible. So we were like, why not do a whole episode on that? That's right. That's up now if you're listening to this. That's up now if you're listening to this. That's probably up if you're listening to this as soon as it goes up

because it does. It goes up a day early and ad free. That's right. Got one more or have you got one more? You've got one more. Okay. Rusty Sprout says, hashtag weekly planet pod, your PM shit his pants at a McDonald's and you haven't talked about this.

Yeah, we know he did, yeah, in Angadine. 1997. I feel like we have talked about this. Yeah, maybe we he did, yeah. In Angadine. Ah, 1997. I feel like we have talked about this. Yeah, maybe we have. Because here's the thing, this got national news and international news it seems because he went on, because obviously He went on Kyle and Jackie O or something. Here's the thing, he's terrible.

He's one of the worst. He's horrible. I hate to get political, but also he's one of those guys who's like, oh, I'm just a silly dad. I don't know. Like, so anytime something bad happens, something awful, it's like, oh, people are like, does he not know what's going on? He knows what's going on. He's terrible.

He's not an idiot. You don't accidentally become the prime minister. Anyway, the point is he went on a radio show and presumably to distract from terrible vaccine rollouts or one of the numerous other scandals, he talked about it. He unprompted. They didn't even ask him about it. They didn't ask him. He just started talking about this internet rumour.

Which means he did it. I think he did it. Yeah. And so what, man? But I think on purpose because he's terrible. I don't think he did it accidentally. I think he did it to ruin someone's day. Yeah, you're probably right.

Here's the thing about this guy as well. If you're international to us, you might remember the Where the Bloody How Are You campaign. He's responsible for that. And what's interesting about that terrible campaign is it actually decreased people coming to the country. Interesting. So he fucked our normally vibrant, just by itself, tourist economy,

which just happens naturally. Because you just put an ad and you go Great Barrier Reef, Big Rock, coffee, and that's all you fucking need. You just flash that on the screen. And he somehow, and then people are like, this is rude. And then he mysteriously got fired from that job. Yes, but he got a massive payout. Did you know that he also, prior to that, he worked for New Zealand?

New Zealand, I did know that. And he got mysteriously fired. Also fucked up. Yeah. Yeah, got a massive payout. Did you know that he also, prior to that, he worked for New Zealand. I did know that. And he got mysteriously fired. Also fucked up. Yeah. Got a massive payout and left. And then he went into politics and now he's the fucking head of the country as well. And people are like, well, you know, would the other guy do what I was... Probably not.

But also the other guy was also weak. They're all weak and spy-less. And just terrible. Anyway, this is politics at 2%. That's the hunt. If you want the full 40%, which is where I'm at, you'll have to tune

in next week. That's right. I've got one more about. This is from Fritz. It says, how to think about buying an expensive collectible. Oh, I like this. I was listening with pleasure as you guys struggle with how to justify buying a vintage arcade cabinet. Oh, I like this. Oh, interesting. Jesus.

Wow. So here is how serious collectors think about spending a lot of money on a machine they really want but they don't need. You're not buying anything. You're paying some money to care for a piece of history. You get the pleasure of having it, using it, and learning about it. But if it's a real collectible, there will always be someone else who wants a turn. So whenever you need to move on, you just sell it on to the next collector.

Hopefully you get some of your money back. In the best of cases, you make a profit. That's very interesting. As they say of owning a boat, the boat owner has two happiest days, the day she bought the boat and the day she sold it. That's a very interesting way to look at it. My wife Sarah and I have loved the show for years. Can we be the official print publishers of the pod? Yes, you may. You got it.

You got it. Yeah. So how do you look? I look at something, though, I'm like, I'm going to get this thing and ruin it. Yeah, I like to ruin stuff. I'll be honest with you. Yeah, I like to just tear it to faces, you know. What have you ruined lately?

A toilet in Engadine? Yeah, that's right. Well, you've got to do it for the tourist experience. If you're in Engadine, you've got to, you know. I'm just a worker at McDonald's. What else are you going to do in Angadine? Don't ruin a toilet. If you've ever cleaned a toilet publicly, don't ruin a toilet.

Yeah, good call. Anything else or is that it? That's the whole thing, folks. Fucking wrap it up, mate. That's the whole episode. Maybe next week we'll talk about a better movie. Snake Eyes? If we can see it.

I think it'll be a better movie. And it's also DC, no, it's Comic-Con, sort of, I think. Oh, Comic-Con Talk. Yes. Nice. I love it. be a better movie. And it's also DC, no, it's Comic-Con sort of, I think. Oh, Comic-Con Talk. Yes. Nice. I love it. Let's do it. Folks, thanks so much for listening to the podcast.

Thank you for subscribing to the podcast. Thank you for telling a friend about the podcast. Thank you for lying to a friend to get them to listen to the podcast. You tricked them. They're in now. You've been tricked. You got them. Sucked in, idiot.

Why did you listen this long? Are those tricked people still listening now? We don't know. But that's the perfect crime, though, now. You've been tricked. You got them. Sucked in, idiot. Why did you listen this long? Are those tricked people still listening now? We don't know. But that's the perfect crime though, James. They don't know. If they'd still be listening at this point, the reveal would be, this is the prestige. Oh, my God.

We reveal that they've been tricked, but they haven't listened this far. I love the prestige. Right? So I just realised I haven't brought up reviews, so I'm just furiously looking for some now. So I go on. James, do you have a five-star review there? Because thank you, everybody. I actually do have a couple here some now. Sorry, go on. James, do you have a five-star review there? Because thank you, everybody.

I actually do have a couple here, yeah. Okay, nice. This one is from Aaron who says, amazed they've lasted this long. It's five stars. You just do it in half. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not sure how what I can only assume assumes a podcast examining a new planet every week for over 300 episodes, but I guess they've figured out something.

A big fan of the two hosts, and Nicholas keep up the good work. And this one says, five stars also, from Emperor Bailey, who says decades well spent. I've been listening to this podcast every Monday since 1976 when they started it up to discuss updates about the upcoming Superman the movie. Consistently A-plus commentary for 45

years and counting. I've thoroughly enjoyed it and the community that has grown around it. Join us! Please do. Nothing wrong with that. When are you going to graduate to gym? When are you going to become a gym? I'm a gym to some. Really? Who? None of your business. Nah, I want to know. I'll figure it out. I'm going to listen in on all your phone calls. You know what it is?

Somebody goes, do you go by gym? And I'm like, whatever. So whoever says that, that's how I'm named. Do you go by Tarquin? Yep. Nice, great. I'm not married to any of it. I don't give a shit, literally.

You can call me anything. I don't give a fuck. You heard it, folks. Yeah, exactly. But you know how some people are like, people, you know, have transitioned to like, oh, your name used to be this, so I'm going to call you. Get fucked.

People can be called whatever they want. You know what I mean? I don't know what you mean. If you were born a name and then you get a nickname, whatever, man. It gives a shit. I agree. People can be shut up. People can be whatever they want is what I'm saying.

I agree, James. Yeah. With you. You didn't think I would agree. I know. Yeah. But in my case, what I'm saying is I don't care specifically what I'm called. Yeah.

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Yeah, terrific. Yeah, that's good. Maybe I'll send him a Daytona cabinet. Yeah. That'll make him feel better. That's right. Yeah. Just drop it off outside his house and he has to bring it in himself.

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The bigger the push, the better. Pushing somebody over. I was going to say, yeah, the push for the prank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, great stuff. Yeah. Good. Thank you to The Brute and The Basilisk and Rackham

for their musical themes. Yeah, they're good, aren't they? Very good. Almost too good. Suspiciously good. I'm going to take that word out, though. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about?

No, I don't. Some people are saying they'll stop listening if I change the theme song. But some people say they'll stop listening if you don't. Yeah, exactly. So what I'm saying is. So what I'm saying is who annoys you the most? What will you do? Who will you want to spite the most?

I will spite the loudest group. That's what I'll do. Oh, that's absolutely true. So if I change it and people flip out, I will never change it back. But if I change it and nobody says anything, maybe I just will change it back. I just, I cannot be pushed. You do not understand. Oh, I get it.

The people out there. No, I know you understand. I get it. Yeah, yeah. My will to annoy people has always been like fucking laser focused. That trumps everything, yeah. The things that I will respond to. You ever wonder why a weird thing happens in this podcast and we've got a weird tradition or something like that?

It's because somebody has said, hey, stop doing the thing. And we're like, no, we'll do it forever actually. That's how we work. Anyway, that's it, isn't it? That's the whole show next week. As you said, Snake Eyes. Hopefully. Comic Con. Yep. Woo. Woo. Woo or it? That's the whole show next week. As you said, Snake Eyes. Hopefully, yeah. Comic-Con.

Yep. Woo. Woo. Woo or boo. That's right. Find out. It'll be our woo or boo special. That's right.

Yeah. Snake Eyes, woo or boo? Comic-Con stuff, woo or boo. That's right. Thanks for listening, everybody. We genuinely appreciate it. We really do. The Emmys, was there an Emmy nomination this week?

Yeah, a bunch of stuff happened and Don Cheadle got nominated for like three seconds of screen time for Captain America and he's like, I don't know. Feels like a career achievement award. It's like you've done this for 10 years, let's. Well, there is a theory that people who are voting just thought he was Anthony Mackie. Wow.

Which I think is entirely possible for the people who vote for these things. Yeah, that's probably true actually. Anyways, let's get out of here. Grabbed our jam, you guys. We will see you next week. Goodbye. I've got to put the sting in. Yeah, I gather that's probably true, actually. Anyways, let's get out of here. I grabbed our jam, you guys. We will see you next week. Goodbye. I've got to put the sting in.

Yeah, put the sting in. You're the king of sting. Every breath you take. Yes. We didn't even workshop that one. That's true. It's not true. I'll be texting you later and be like,

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