The Weekly Planet - 398 Best & Worst Movies About Video Games

Episode Date: August 16, 2021

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Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet Where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. That's right. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. Just checking we're all...

You nearly caught me out. Did I? I wanted to bring you into it. I wanted to bring you into it. It seems like a test to me. You're like, this guy's been doing this for like 380 episodes. You reckon he knows? You reckon he knows at this point what we're talking about?

There wasn't even really any hesitation in you either. I'm very impressed. Thank you. 398 this week, Mason. Is it really? Yeah. What do we do for 400? Apparently we promised we'd talk about the movie 300 in episode 400,

which is what we said in episode 300. Oh, okay. I just don't think we're going to do that. Okay, but how do we fill the remaining 100? Can we talk about the TV series The 100? We could talk about The 100. Okay, yeah. Is there any other numbers?

We could talk about numbers. We could talk about the TV series numbers. We could talk about the movie 300 While doing a century Of shots and die We could both die That's just beer right How many beers is it What's the shot 35ml

Let's not do the math I'll just google it For those who don't know They know they're all booze hounds Everybody's been locked down Nobody knows anything. It's eight. Okay. So what you have to do, you do 100 shots of beer and you do one every minute.

Yes. Is that right? However long it takes. Until you die. Until you die. It's eight cans. So it's eight cans in a bit over an hour. Okay.

I could do that. You think you could? No, you know what? I used to be able to do it. I couldn't do it now. You couldn't do it. That's true. Yeah. I could do that. You think you could? No, you know what? I used to be able to do it. I couldn't do it now. You couldn't do it. That's true. Yeah.

I'm weak. And maybe better for it. Yeah. Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your 1% body fat couldn't handle it. Couldn't do it. Anyways, let's get into it, Mason.

I'm more around 14, 15, just for the people in the know. Mason. Also, I don't drink beer, so that would be tricky. I could do cider or chicken nuggets. 100 chicken nuggets. 100 chicken nuggets. You'd be better off doing Mason. Also, I don't drink beer, so that would be tricky. I could do cider or chicken nuggets. 100 chicken nuggets. 100 chicken nuggets. You'd be better off doing beer. Yeah, no, I would.

It's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because at a certain point, oh, what if I alternated? What about 50 shots of 50 chicken nuggets? What a brew that would be. That's called an English stew, I believe. Yeah. That's right.

Before I talk about what we're going to talk about this week, because there's time codes below, people want to jump around, I believe you want to talk about a podcast that you were on. Oh, that's right. Thank you for reminding me. This week, I was on an episode of Faux Fop. Yes. As people will know, Toe Fop, 30-odd foot of pod, which is Will Anderson and Charlie Clausen's

podcast. Yes, yes. So they also do Faux Fop, where one of the hosts is out. This week, I was guest Will, and Charlie and I had a good old fun chat did over on the internet got into it is it's right it's probably with you right now the internet you can check it out so just go to fofop f-o-f-o-p that's right for that and uh talked about all kinds of fun stuff sometimes people don't have the internet with them they're like i was trapped in some rubble the only thing i had was your podcast remember we get we get emails like that every now and then. Like the 127 hours guy. He was like, I was trapped.

Yeah. No, all I had was your podcast. Which is why I cut my arm off. I mean, they were coming to get me, but I'm like, no, I cannot listen to this. Yeah, that's right. So yeah. And I used up all my annual leave. In here?

In this bloody crevasse or whatever? What a nightmare. I was probably supposed to spend an afternoon here. I think if you don't have proper medical insurance, you want to make sure that the injury that you have, like it's enough to spin like a book deal on a movie out of it. Oh, yeah, definitely. And then you can just do like speaking tours in like offices

for the rest of your life. Yeah, I was trapped under a rock. What was it like? Yeah, not great. I didn't love it. Yeah. Yeah. My big toe got crushed.

Did it? Yeah. I thought it was his arm. Oh, no, I'm a different guy. That's not interesting enough. I didn't love it yeah my big toe got crushed did it? yeah I thought it was his arm oh no I'm a different guy that's not interesting enough that's what I'm saying I've been inspired by this guy and I've given it a whirl

I'm just like yeah big toe got squished it went all purple I got my foot caught in the door I guess you just slammed your door on it yeah that's where I am currently that's where I'm speaking to you

anyways it's a great podcast. I'll listen to it. A lot of fun. Two fun gentlemen having a fun chat. Two fun gentlemen. That's what they should call it, two fun gentlemen. Great.

They should rename it. Anyways, this week we're going to be talking about the release date for Shang-Chi. We're going to talk about more delays, including Venom. Is there going to be any Dismays? Mason, there's never any Dismays. I might have to rename it this week. We'll talk about it. Is it going to be delays and I'm really mad about Venom 2 not coming out?

I'm not so much mad at Venom. I think there might be a knock-on effect. It depends. We're also going to talk about some more Marvel animated stuff, some Moon Knight images. We're going to return to the Iron Fist universe. Are we? Yes. What? You're going to love it the Iron Fist universe. Are we? Yes.

What? You're going to love it. Oh. Some Powerpuff Girl news. Okay. Some Sonic news. Oh, yes. And some bad news down at Marvel HQ for how they've been treating some of their creatives.

Kevin Feige got his foot caught in a door. Did he? Yeah. He's going to do that speaking to her. It'll be all right. I created the MCU. Talk about your foot in the door. I mean, I created like the biggest movie franchise ever.

The door. Tell us about the door. Show us your big toe. Show us how yuck it is. Also, we were going to do Free Guy this week. That's the pivot because eventually superhero movies, they're going to just be in decline. People who got this different part stuck in things.

And you just see all these like executives at DC and Warner Brothers and Marvel and all these places, they're just like, they're about to walk through a door and then they look down at their toe and they're like, do I do it? Is this my golden ticket out of here? Is this my golden parachute? A minor injury that I can spin into a speaking tour? So we were going to talk Free Guy this week, but we cannot

because we have not seen it because we are in lockdown. And look, to be honest, I wasn't in a hurry to see it, but by all accounts, it's okay. It's all right. It's pretty all right. So get out there if you want to. But we are going to talk about movies that are set around and also about and sometimes in video games

that strictly aren't video game movies. They're not video game movies. These are not adaptations of video games that strictly aren't video game movies. They're not video game movies. These are not adaptations of video games, but rather they're movies where somebody's like, Nintendo, what are you thinking about that? They might have a game have spun off them since. Oh. For example.

Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it, James. All right, I won't. Bit of sizzle. Bit of sizzle. All right, let's get into it. So Shang-Chi has a release date. Go on.

People say, why do we say it like that? That's how it's pronounced apparently. We learned this quite recently. There you go. That's something we're going to keep doing it until it's eventually pronounced a different thing. Or it stays like this. That's how we do it. That's right.

We just go with the flow. Anyway, it's going to have a 45-day theatrical window, and then it will go to streaming, which is a deviation from Black Widow where they did day and date. They probably didn't get the return that they wanted to from that. So they're doing this. They're going to try this. I mean, if Fast and Furious has proven anything, it's that movies will never stop, even ones you don't like.

And also- Big magnets. Big magnets. Very handy. And maybe your brother, if he's your brother, you have to be spray tanned the same color. Yeah, yeah. That's awesome. Can you believe John Cena was in that and Peacemaker?

It's wild, right? It is wild. Yeah. And then haircut does not work on Charlize Theron. You're bloody wrong, brother. You're bloody wrong. That's what we've learned from the Price is the Furious franchise, but you were saying something else that we've learned.

It's that that movie did exceptionally well because it didn't have a day-and-date release. It had a shorter to digital run. Okay, right, right. But it did have a cinema release, yes. And we had to see it in the cinema. Also, I feel I was unnecessarily mean there.

I think that haircut works on Charlize Theron as well as it could work on anyone. Well, that's a stirring endorsement. Thank you. I mean, if anybody could do this. Sure. You are doing it. The other thing is Warner Brothers next year, you know,

this year they've been notorious. I'm familiar with this year. For day and date releases, which has been good for like us. Sure. And also anybody else who doesn't want to go into a movie theatre. But next year they've decided to do a similar thing and they've struck a deal with AMC, which will probably then bleed over, which is a cinema chain, which will probably bleed over

into other regions of a 45-day release window. So I think their last movie of the year will be The Matrix 4 and then we're going to go from there and see what happens. That's just how you say it. We've learned this recently. We've been saying it wrong for 20 years. And if they correct us, we're actually going to stick with this one. We're not going to go from there and see what happens. That's just how you say it. We've learned this recently. We've been saying it wrong for 20 years. And if they correct us, we're actually going to stick with this one. We're not going to go with the flow.

That's right. We've dug our heels in. That's right. So, yeah. So that's not surprising because I don't know what the HBO Max numbers would be like, but I can't imagine they would have been level with the billion dollars worth of movies that they made. No. For the year. But, you know, at the time when worth of movies that they made for the year.

But, you know, at the time when they made it, they didn't really know what was going to happen and nobody did and they didn't tell all the creatives and whatever. It was a real mess, but whatever. At least we got to see Wonder Woman 84. Oh, my God, did we ever. I went to the cinema for that one, actually. Me too.

Great. Nice open-air cinema. I agree. And I was just leaving and the usher was like, what did you think of that? And I went, I don't know. Did they really ask?

They really asked. They were like, what did you think of that? And I went, I don't know, but my answer was actually bad. I thought it was bad. Did they know you?

No. So they were asking everybody. Oh wow, there you go. Jesus. I don't like that. No? Straight away?

Yeah, yeah. I don't know, I just got up. I should have come back later. Just to be clear, I didn't like it. I said, yeah. I don't know. I just got up. I should have come back later. Just to be clear, I didn't like it. I said, I don't know, but I actually didn't like it. And he's like, what movie did you see? So the next day, speaking of movies.

And he'd be like, what movie did you see? And I'd be like, Wonder Woman 84. And he'd be like, oh, did you like it? And I'd be like, I don't know. I just caved yet again. I can't be rude. So delays but not dismays. But for the moment, if you don't mind, I'd like a slight rebrand.

Okay. Can we call it the countdown to no time to die being delayed? Okay, great. I put the calendar up. You sure have, yeah. It's ours. I mean, it is closed. It's still up.

You're not wrong. You're going to put a nail in the wall for a No Time to Die calendar? Yes. From here, from a seated position, I want you to throw it into the wall. I want you to throw a razor-edged hat at the wall. Just through the middle of the calendar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you might have heard this, but it actually needs,

it's the most expensive Bond movie ever made, and it needs $900 million to break even. That's $900 million in ticket sales to break even. Okay, right. What do you think of the chances of that happening this year? Slim. Very slim. So you could, I mean, you couldn't do it this year.

No. There would have to be a remarkable turnaround. Also, as I understand it, it needs to make $900 million in ticket sales to break even currently. But I mean, as time moves forward, I read an article recently that all the technology is now obsolete. Like all the product placed in the movie is obsolete now. So like they might have to paste in new phones and new cars and watches and what have you.

And inflation. Got to factor in that inflation, sure, of Daniel Craig. He's so big. Is he? I don't know. I can't tell with that man. I don't know. Is he 5'9 or 6'3?

I don't know. Is he too big or too small? It's always too small. It is, yeah. It's always too small. So, yeah, there you go. I just think that's – you know what I also think, though? Yes. These movies make a lot what I also think though? Yes.

These movies make a lot of money in product placement. Yes. So I'd imagine a lot of these costs have already been offset and we don't know about that. This could just be some Hollywood accounting mumbo jumbo. For sure. You know what I mean? So we'll see. Yeah.

They could just be also looking for another streaming platform. I think Amazon bought MGM, didn't they? I think that happened. Yeah, no, they did. Yeah, yeah. For some billions of dollars. In our famous segment, one big company buys another big company. Soon there'll be only one big company and we'll all be working for us.

That's right. Yeah, I mean, but it is further complicated because the Broccoli's still retain some control of how this is released. Because I think almost anything else, if Amazon had acquired it, they'd just be like, we'll put it on streaming, who cares? But it seems like the Broccoli's, the Brock Pack, have some issue with we won't have it released on streaming. It is too much prestige attached to the Bond movies.

We shan't do it. What if Amazon were like, we're a premium brand and we don't want you on our service? Whoa. It's like way, way, way. We're going to bury you. Yeah. We're going to put the master tapes of this in an Amazon box.

We're going to drone it into the ocean. No one will ever see it. We're going to put it on one of Bezos' space jaunts. He's going to kick it out an airlock. What do you think about that, Brockies? So that'll be very interesting to see how that gets delayed. Yeah. Maybe they'll just do it, just be like, fuck it, whatever.

We'll try and make our money back in clothing and brand deals and Blu-ray sales or whatever. Well, I mean, now that I think about it, couldn't they just make a bunch of them? No, I guess they couldn't because they've already committed. You know what they would have to do is they would have to like, they'd have to double up on brand endorsements. So like Bond would like he'd be opening his Smirnoff vodka,

but then he'd have to open up a second bottle. Like they CGI another arm in, like the T-1000 in Terminator 2 with a separate brand of vodka. And he's like, hmm. Two vodkas. Wait, is it two different vodkas? Two different vodkas, two different brands of vodka. If you're allowed to do that, is that even legal? like, hmm. Two vodkas. Wait, is it two different vodkas? Two different vodkas. Two different brands of vodka. Yeah, yeah.

If you're allowed to do that, is that even legal? Well, well. Well. Does vodka freeze in space? I don't think so. That's interesting. How about this? All right.

He won one brand of vodka. Yep. You know, he's been in some action sequence and he's all worn out and beaten and bloody and he's pouring out a vodka. But then he's also putting out a chicken nugget. McDonald's has got a lot of money. That's right. Put that BTS meal in there, baby.

And you pull back and there's 50 shots and 50 chicken nuggets across the bar. That's right. He's going for it. Yeah, he is. So there you go. It's that, you know, in every Bond movie he's retired and he's in some backwater. Instead of it being like he's doing tequila and he's in some backwater, you know, instead of it being like, you know,

he's doing tequila and he's fighting a scorpion or whatever. It's just vodka and chicken nuggets. I'm getting fat. Oh, how far you've fallen, Bond. Oh, that's what the new 007's talking about in the trailers, how many chicken nuggets he's put away. So speaking of putting it away, nice. But anyway, that's what I'm saying.

More brand deals. Just put more brand deals in. He's just wearing a T-shirt. Yep. There's NASCAR on it. His car's a NASCAR. Car's a NASCAR. It's a fucking NASCAR.

No, he's dual-wielding cars. He's got one leg in his Aston Martin, whatever the new one is, and he's got one leg in a NASCAR. Just covered in brands. Oh, yeah. But, no, the reason we say countdown to no time to die being delayed, which is our new segment, Venom 2 has been moved from September 24th. Not that long, though.

Three weeks? So October 15th, which is weird because that's not enough to be clear of the pandemic necessarily that's right i i don't know what this is though i don't know why they'd why this move in particular brand deals yeah might be it's going to go up against halloween i think maybe yeah so yeah i don't know i don't know what to make of that and also you might have heard this week that uh apparently does that mean they're also going to push back uh spider-man i don't know what to make of that. And also you might have heard this week that apparently Venom. Does that mean they're also going to push back Spider-Man? I don't know.

I don't know. It's not a good sign. Nope. But I don't know. It depends on vaccinations, like as I shouted at everybody in that video. Sure does. But Michael Morbius, the movie's coming out still. Do you remember?

Vaguely, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't that filmed? Yeah, it's been done. I think it was supposed to be out like last June or something like that. I probably ask that every time, which is a bad sign for the movie, I think. I think so. And I've never had an answer, so that's probably not a good sign either.

But apparently venom is in it. Oh, my God. Yeah. So there you go. Okay. Two great tastes. Vodka and chicken nuggets. They are like vodka and chicken nuggets, aren't they?

Yeah. Which is which? Tom Hardy's chicken nuggets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Variety. Is the spice of life.

It really is. It's vodka and chicken nuggets. That's right. And then we're speaking to producer Brad Winterbaum, who's over at Marvel. He says, Marvel Studios has multiple animated series in various phases of development for Disney Plus alongside the second season

of What If? What does any of that look like? Don't know. Great question. So there you go. Maybe they're bringing back Spider-Man and his amazing friends. None of his friends aren't that amazing, like comparatively. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, no, I sure. He's kind of the most amazing. I mean, they were super-powered friends in that. Yeah, but it's not called Spider-Man's Amazing Mates and Spider-Man. Do you know what I mean? Yep, you're right. Yeah, no, I get it. Sure, sure, sure.

That's all I'm saying. He's the lead. He's the star. Anyway. So that's good, I guess. We are currently doing What If weekly episodes. First one for Agent Carter becomes Captain Carter. Went out last week.

Collings does an amazing edit. We're going to be doing those until we don't want to or for eight episodes. So there we go. Yeah. But I tell you what, that first one was fine, wasn't it? Sure was fine. We're for BigSandwich.co. Yeah.

Over on the Big Sandwich Classic Comic Book Club. Perfect timing, Mason. We talked about the What If comic books, some of our f you know, again, how they sort of generally turn out. You know, they're kind of a mixed bag. But then we did also talk about a classic What If comic book from the late 70s, which is really something. It really is. Yeah. Something bad.

It's, I don't even think so. It's like Hubris the comic book. It's crazy. It really is. Anyway, check it's like Hubris, the comic book. It's crazy. It really is. Anyway, check it out if you're subscribed over there, bigsandwich.co. Here's something else. Yeah, but like we were saying with the what-ifs,

they are a nice. What-if? They're a nice one. The first episode certainly looked great, didn't it? Yeah, it did. Oh, yeah, I thought you meant the comics. Oh, that also looked good. We'll see.

I think it's the T'Challa one this week, so we'll get into that one. Moon Knight. Oh, yeah, I thought you meant the comics. Oh, that also looked good. We'll see. I think it's the T'Challa one this week, so we'll get into that one. Moon Knight. Oh, yeah. Some leaked concept art, Mason. Allegedly. No, I think it's it. Okay, you think so? I don't know.

Or is it an on-set photo? What is it? Is it a screen cap? Yeah, it might be that. I don't know. I looked at a few. Some are blurrier than others. Okay, yeah.

But if it is true, they're doing the Raggedy Man Moon Knight. People are upset. Why is that? I don't know if I would say raggedy. It's maybe not the raggedy one, but it's sort of more the kind of Egyptian kind of like you're sort of a mystical suit. Yes. So, yeah. People are mad, I think, for

White Spawn. Yeah, because people are always mad all the time on the internet. But I think part of the reason is because, you know, traditionally his costume is white. Yeah. And, you know, as we've seen in the sort of more recent, most of the hype for the Moon Knight series has come from, like, the comic books of the last ten years probably.

And in that there's. He's doing a John Wick. Yeah, he's doing a John Wick. And there's a sort of a classic line in there where someone asks why his costume's white and he's like, because I want people to see me coming. So I think people are kind of looking forward to that. But, I mean, this could be, because we don't know the context.

I've literally seen one picture which looks like it's a screen cap or something. This could be a camera test for one costume, and they've tried 20. He could have multiple costumes. He could have multiple costumes in the show because he does in the comic book where like he's got a traditional superhero one. He's got like a special forces looking one. He's just got a suit and tie.

Yeah, yeah, that's true. So it could be that. It could look more white in real life. This is just a bad photo. He's got a suit and tie and just like a white mask. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's got the logo on the head, yeah. You know, it could be, yeah, like I you know it could be uh yeah like i said it could

be a camera test and they've tried 20 in there yeah i mean or it could be you know just there's a reason most superhero costumes aren't white because it's really difficult to photograph them and keep them clean yeah so i mean this is and you know i think it's you know bad guys would still definitely see this coming yeah like in a sense a nice kind of moon rock grey, which I think is nice. It's a question for you, though. You just kind of answered it. Do you like it, though? Yeah, I like it.

Well, my first thought was not, oh, it's not white. Fair enough. It's pretty good. Do you know the moon's hot? No. I didn't know that either. I was watching that Apple show about whether on the moon or whatever, and someone accidentally goes out on the moon and it's hot.

Oh. It's too hot to go on there. I always thought it was cold, but it's like blistering hot because it's a big white rock that's just absorbing the sun all day. I guess that's true, yeah. So, you know, I never thought about it until I saw it and I went, no, that seems wrong. They've made a mistake here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This historically accurate and scientifically grounded show. Let's make fun of Iron Fist, Mason. Okay, let's do it. You happy to? Yeah. I thought this show was fine, by the way, when it came out. But the fighting, one character in particular, was very lackluster.

And now we know why. Oh, is there some inside scoop is what's happening here. Do you like hot goss? Yes. Then you're going to love this. I like my goss to be as hot as the moon. Your famous expression. Yeah.

It's from Jamcast. That's what people come here for, for hot goss that's as hot as the moon. That's what we always say here. I never knew what it meant until just now. Jamcast spoke to Brett Chan, famous stunt coordinator, and he said, you know, we spent 21 to 22 hour days trying to make it work and have directors say, ah, no, or having Marvel say, ah, no. Everyone is fighting and the actor.

Do you think their feet were getting caught indoors? Maybe. Ah, no. So were you wanting me to, ah. Everyone is fighting and the actor doesn't want to train and it's like, guys, guys, throw me a bone. Give me someone I'll work with here. That is why some of our best sequences were with Jessica Henwick,

which is true. Yeah. She does some great stuff in that because she trained four hours a day and she has zero martial arts experience. And we had great guys teaching Aikido, Judo and some Kinjutsu and then delivered some Kung Fu to add in there. It was just, yeah. So without saying the name in particular, it's whatever his face is.

Yeah, that guy's name. I think the main reason is not to save him any, you know, to have him maintain his dignity. It's just I literally cannot remember what his name is. Finn something? Yeah. Let me look that up. Jones?

Finn Jones. Yeah. Okay. Well, we've said it first. I'll check it out. Okay. So he just didn't want to train. Apparently.

That's odd. I think so. You're in a show that's exclusive. It's exclusively based around martial arts. You don't want to learn any of the martial arts. That's weird. Because if you look at like, yeah, like they mentioned Jessica Henwick. If you look at like, what's his name?

Yeah, Sashua Dahuan. You know, he's the other guy. He's one of the, he trains with him in the monastery or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He seems to be able to fight. If you look at like, if you look at Daredevil, the other thing is if they had to put a mask on him, it wouldn't have been a problem.

Doesn't matter. You could have got this guy to do it. Exactly. Yeah. As he traditionally wears a mask in the comic books. That's right. It's this whole deal. I do not get it.

Wild, right? I don't get it. I recently rewatched it. It was just on YouTube, like the escape from the prison sequence in Daredevil. Oh, my God, so good. It's incredible. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I was going to say that it's just kind of like it's this combination and it's like they've clearly put so much thought into this idea of like he's got a lot of skills and he's had a lot of experience, but he's not super powered and there's so many of these other people. Yeah. Like even if you're the kung fu master, like four guys coming at you in a narrow hallway that are going to like beat you over the head with a prison toilet

or whatever. Like that's tough stuff. But it's just they're constantly just dragging themselves off the ground to keep fighting. Amazing. There's a point where he just like, Daredevil, just he kicks a guy's foot out from underneath him and the dude cracks his head on like an examination table.

Amazing. So good. Anyway. Good show. Rewatch that, folks, if you can. Is that third season? Or is it second season? Second season, I think.

I never finished the third season, but I did like Daredevil. When I heard it was kind of being done, I just kind of dropped off. But if he turns up day one and he's like, I didn't train, it's like you're fucking fired, man. Right? Like there's a million actors you could get in who would be more keen. Like you haven't lost any time because he hasn't done anything. Yeah, right.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know. I just say it's bizarre to me. Anyway, maybe that's not how it went down. That's one side of the story. Once we hear from that guy, main guy who was in it. That guy.

That guy who was in it. We said his name minutes ago. Doesn't matter. Yeah. I've even got the tab open, but I'm just not clicking on it. Don't click, don't look. Good advice for the internet generally. Don't click, don't look.

I agree. Variety. You know how you mentioned it's the spice of life. Yes. Got another article from them. There's Chloe Bennett, who you might know as Quake. Agents of Shield, yeah. Agents of Shield, yeah.

She has left the Powerpuff Girls reboot. No, it's a reimagining something. Live action reimagining something. Yeah, so it's due to a scheduling conflict, they say. So I don't know if you know they did a thing, whatever. They filmed a pilot. Can you be any less specific, James? They filmed a pilot.

I didn't know that. And it was apparently atrocious. It's like a CW thing and it's like they're 25 and they're like bitter and jaded and that they were. I watched a video recently about Riverdale. Oh, yeah. It's on YouTube and I think the person making the video mentioned that like any time somebody says, oh, this looks like a CW show,

it's never a good sign. It's true. They're saying like they made a Powerpuff Girl thing and it seems like a real CW situation. No, you're right. Apparently, I also didn't know this, Superman and Lois is made by HBO but it's only put on the CW, which is why it looks better. Okay.

One more episode left. I'm into it. Anyway, so they're 25 and they're like jaded because they're made to fight crime as babies or whatever. I don't really know the Powerpuff Girls. But, yeah, apparently they are retooling the pilot entirely because it was terrible but now they need another lead. So also I'd say this is probably not a scheduling conflict.

Okay. Because, you know, because, you know. I mean it's a scheduling conflict in the sense that she could be filming this but she could also just be at home not doing this. Yeah, I agree. Just doing a different thing. Which is probably what's going on. But here's something that is happening.

Idris Elba confirmed as Knuckles. That's right. What do you think, Mason? I love it. Yeah. So it was going to be Jason Momoa, wasn't it? I don't know. I remember that was the idea.

Oh, well. That was the rumor. Let me check that. I like the idea that Idris Elba signed onto this he went into a room and he was it was under the expectation that he was signing on to be bond and they're like okay idris you're gonna love this character he's mysterious beloved suave yeah iconic attitude attitude good with his fists yep you know he's prickly yeah in a And he's like, this is sounding really good. I'm excited for this.

He's bigger than all the other hedgehogs around him. That's right. Sorry, what? He's bigger than all the other hedgehogs around him. He's literally in echidna, Idris. And Idris is like, let's do this. I love this take. I love this take on Bond.

Here we go. So there you go. Bit of fun, Mason. Why not? Yeah. The first one was, it was all right. Was it this take on Bond. Here we go. So there you go. Bit of fun, Mason. Why not? The first one was, it was alright. Was it? Yes. Have you seen it? Yes. It's a kids movie. We talked about it on the podcast. I know, but I can't remember

whether I just talked about it. That was also one of your reveals on Fofop that you didn't watch one of the things we looked at once. Maybe. And people were like, oh, is James going to go back and check? No. I don't. What's done is done. It's done.

What can I do about it? Even if I like. Can confirm I sat through Sonic the Hedgehog. Wow. Yeah. Pretty brave of me, right? Yeah, the bravest man I know. Thank you.

Last bit of news. What's Knuckles' deal? Can he punch people? He can stick. He can climb and stick. Because of his knuckles? Yeah, because of his knuckles. Okay, right.

And are Echidnas, can you get them in England? No. They're his knuckles. Yeah, because of his knuckles. Okay, right. And are echidnas, can you get them in England? No. They're just Australian, right? They're Australian, yeah. Think he'll do an Australian accent? Whoa, no. No?

Well, a hedgehog is strictly American. Don't know. I don't think they are. I'm going to look that up. They're in the UK. I know that. I'm not saying they might be in the US. Yeah, yeah.

Do you think Idris Elba will just do his regular accent? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because, like, who cares? That's right. I've seen some of that Sonic animated show or one of them that's on Netflix, and I don't think it's Australian in that either.

Okay. But I couldn't tell you for a million dollars. Okay. There are 17 species of hedgehog, James, in five genera found throughout parts of Europe, Asia, and Africa, and in New Zealand by introduction. Oh, snap. That's right. Now we're able to do a New Zealand accent.

No, not an echidna. But hedgehogs. Yeah, he's adopted the accent. Oh, I see. Okay. Let's move on. Okay. Let's pretend I said something competent.

There are no hedgehogs native to Australia and no living species native to the Americas. There we go. We've all learned something today. That's right. So I don't think, yeah, nothing's strictly true in the Sonic universe, is it? That's absolutely not. The Guardian reporting that creators at Marvel are getting the short end of the stick.

This is from an anonymous source. Okay. It says, I've been offered a special character contract that was really, really terrible. But it was that or nothing. And then instead of honoring it, they send you a thank you note and like, here's some money we don't owe you. And it's like five grand.

And you're like, that movie made a billion dollars. So essentially, they're paying creators who have made these, you know, these huge franchises. Yeah, right, right. And obviously, there's a whole lot of steps between putting something to page and then it making a billion dollars. Yes. But five grand, come on.

Seems like, yeah. Yeah, I think for a lot of this stuff it's kind of the idea being like, we don't owe you any money so we're doing you a huge favour. Yeah, exactly. You know, you created this while you were working for Marvel, so it's ours, obviously, but we'll give you a little something. And usually what happens is it's often a case of, like, how beloved is the character and how much, you know.

I think it's also how much the public knows of you. Yeah, if your social media is. Like if you're Stan Lee or whatever. Yes, exactly, yeah. Do we know, is there any clues to point to who this is well i did it'd be a billion dollar movie i guess so there's i mean it could be iron man avengers yeah could be ed brubaker who turned uh bucky into the winter soldier i saw a story i think it was on comic book movie where he wasn't invited to the winter soldier premiere like

he turned up the captain america one or the yeah the soldier and he wasn't invited to the Winter Soldier premiere. Like, he turned up. The Captain America one? Yeah, the Winter Soldier one. And he wasn't on the door. Great. And so he messaged Sebastian Stan, who then got him in. All right. So shit like that is like, come on, man. Yeah, yeah. And I think the loophole there would be,

well, you didn't actually create Bucky Barnes. You know, that's... Yeah, but where's the fucking Bucky Barnes movie? That's right. It's not called Falcon and Bucky Barnes, the TV show. Teen sidekick Bucky Barnes movie. That's right. It's not called Falcon and Bucky Barnes, the TV show. Teen sidekick Bucky Barnes. Little short shorts Bucky Barnes. Teen adventurer.

Yeah. He reinvented that character. That's true. So, you know, and it's one of the few times as well when they brought back a character from the dead and it's not horrible. Yeah, for sure. So, you know, I don't know what they're doing.

I mean, if it's, and we mentioned this when the thing happened with the Scarlett Johansson contract't know what they're doing. I mean, we mentioned this when the thing happened with the Scarlett Johansson contract of like if they're doing that to like the biggest person. Then they're doing it to everybody. I mean, yeah, that's any corporation, if they can get away with not paying you, they just won't do it. They'll absolutely not do it. Who else could it be conceivably?

So who did like Iron Man 3 made a billion? So Extremis, whoever did that maybe? Yeah, yeah, maybe. It could be anybody who worked on like any Guardians of the Galaxy stuff. Captain Marvel. Yeah. That was a billion dollars. Kelly Sue DeConnick who wrote that a lot. Yeah, and it also could be, I think it also could be a case of even

if they didn't create the character, it could also be a case of like we took your iconic story that reintroduced the character to the could also be a case of like we took your iconic story that reintroduced the character to the mainstream and we put that in the movie. Yes. But it's ours so we can do whatever we want. It could be any of them. Yeah, it really could be anybody, yeah.

So, yeah. Not cool. Not cool. Bro. Yeah. I would say something if I worked there and then I'd get fired. So I probably wouldn't say anything. That's so brave of you.

Oh, you know. Yeah. It's good to make a change. Be the change in the world you want to see, you know? That's right. Yeah. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies

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I don't know if you know this, but we were going to talk about Free Guy this week. That's right. But Free Guy, the cinemas are closed here at the moment. That's correct. Because they knew that Free Guy, people would flock to it and that would tear them down in joy. Now what they knew is that it's better to keep people in suspense over the existence or non-existence of Free Guy.

It's a Schrodinger's Free Guy situation. If they were to open the cinemas, then we would go, we would buy a ticket, we'd go in and we would learn whether Free Guy was real or not real. That's true. And we cannot have that. The world's not ready for it. We don't even know if it's ever been out, if it's going to go out.

Has it been out for 100 years? Was it just a trailer? Did they even make it? Yeah. We don't know. This Ryan Reynolds, he's tricky, isn't he? Maybe he did just make a trailer. Got all his celebrity friends in.

Look at us, we're in a video game or whatever. Shut up, Ryan Reynolds. You go in there and he's like, I'm in Green Lantern and that movie sucks or whatever. And that's the movie. It's just him saying that. He's doing a little jig. That's right. Well, we're not having it. No. That's all we decided to do this week. Also, they didn't let us buy tickets

or go into it. No, that's also true. But we are going to talk about... And that's also true. We are... We've done... Well, for sure we've talked about best or worst it's all going to the cinema. No, that's also true. But we are going to talk about. And that's also true. That's also true. We are, we've done, well, I'm sure we've talked about best or worst video game movies, but there is something interesting I feel to me about movies that are set around the concept of a video game. Yeah, right, right. As mentioned, you're drawn into a video game or it's about video gaming or cyberspace or the virtual world.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Or something to that effect. So I've got a list here of things that we're going to go through. It's one of those classic James and Mason vaguely remember a movie they've seen or maybe Mason goes, did you put in the Guild?

And I'm like, I don't know what that is. So I put it in. But then you know what the Guild is. I know now because you told me, but I've never seen the Guild. That's wild to me. Why is that wild? Because that was like a pioneering web series. There's only one pioneering web series, Mason.

It's called that Mortal Kombat web series, whatever it was called. Yeah. That Mortal Kombat web series. Yeah, like that thing you do. Like none of the teen movie. That Mortal Kombat movie. So what is it? Let's start here.

Why not? Well, The Guild is about a bunch of bloody absolute no-hopers. Wow. Who play together. Is this why you think I would like it? Yes. Anyway, they never leave their homes. Yep.

They're just filthy, just unshowered wrecks. How's their body fat percentage? They're skinny fat. You'd look at them and you'd be like, I think they're skinny, but if you were to prod them, you'd be like, what the hell? You could see your finger poke out the back of them. Yeah, and you're like, where are their bones? But anyway, they all play a video.

They all play like a massively multiplayer online role-playing game and they've never met, but then one day they're like, we're going to meet, you know? Okay. This trouble's a broom. We're going to meet. And then they have conversations online and offline. They get into scrapes.

Felicia Day is behind it. Yes, that I did know. She created and wrote it. She's in it. That's the one thing that I did recognize from it. Yeah, yeah. And apparently they still do stuff. I looked it up quite recently, and they're doing,

like they get the team together and they, like, play they and they like play among us among us among us so do they always play real games no it's like a specific uh oh my god this started in 2007 2007 i told you jesus they're the knights of good they play an mmorpg video game called the game but i don't think we ever actually see it in motion okay and i think that's probably for the best there is another there's a british series They play an MMORPG video game called The Game, but I don't think we ever actually see it in motion. And I think that's probably for the best. There's a British series that is quite similar that I think I've mentioned on this show called Dead Pixels. Yes, I nearly watched that the other day. You nearly watched it.

I nearly did. You nearly watched it. You were like, oh, I'm so pertinent for entertainment here. Yes, yes, yes. I'm so short on content. And I kind of think the downfall of that show is they do show the game. They've had to make the game within the context of the show. And I think it looks okay given that.

It's an in-game whatever, whatever. Yeah. But it does not look like a real game that anyone would play ever. There's that Apple Plus one or whatever that's about games or whatever that's made by Ubisoft are behind it. Are they? What's it called? It's the one with Rob McElhenney and whatever.

You know what I'm talking about. I was going to say earlier, folks, this is also an episode where we vaguely mention a bunch of things and you're like, I know a lot about that. And I'm mad that you barely know anything. It's called Mythic Quest. Yes, which I do like a lot. But that one, the in-game footage is quite good

and they also use a lot of clips of like other stuff. Yeah, right. In it as well. I did not know Ubisoft was behind that. They're monsters as well. Well, I was going to say. Like all video game companies. Do you reckon this is a.

Because they talk about crunch and like diversity. It's interesting because you've sort of got to factor in these days any time anything is made, you have to go, okay, the huge conglomerate that makes this, what are they trying to deflect from? For example, I don't know if you read about it this week, there is Amazon Prime is doing a movie I think or a series starring Emily Blunt. It's about the first Pinkerton detective.

Okay. So the first female. Because Jack Ryan was Amazon as well, is that right? Yeah, that's right. So Emily Blunt is going to tell the story of the first female Pinkerton detective. The Pinkertons are famously like union busting. Like they're a private investigation team and they're all

about union busting. And guess who currently employs them? It's Amazon, James. It's not Emily Blunt. It's Amazon. So it's essentially like propaganda. I think it probably is, yeah. Well, Jack Ryan is just like CIA propaganda.

Propaganda for CIA. They're a whole family of CIA propagandists, I'm just saying. They also, like, I think they sued Rockstar, the Pinkerton detective agency, quite recently. Because the Pinkertons are portrayed in a particularly bad light. Right. And by a particularly bad light. Right. And by a particularly bad light, I mean they're actual, like what they actually did.

What they're doing, the real things that they did. The real things that they did. They're actually. So what era was this first Pinkerton or whatever? Like the Cowboy era. Okay. That's why they're in Red Dead. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's interesting. Yeah. And that brought it back to video games. There we go. Yeah, perfect. So, thank God. Anyway, watch the Guild is what you're saying.

What I'm saying is that maybe Mythic Quest was put out there because Ubisoft's like, yes, some stuff's going to come out about us. I agree. And it's also interesting. It's also a good show. Yeah, you know, but it's also like if you go, here's some funny jokes about Crunch. Yeah.

When people hear about Crunch in the real world, they go, oh, that's all those funny crunch jokes. Pretty good, isn't it? It's not, though. Check out James Stephanie Sterling. You might know the Jimquisition. Oh, yes. They're always banging on about it, and I love it.

Every week it's like, just remember, this company's terrible. I like it. I think we should, let's do the Tron movies, though. Okay. We've never done a Tron-centric episode, and we will when the Jared Leto third Tron movie comes out. Okay. Can't wait.

Why'd they cast him? Don't know. I think he got, I reckon he's one of those guys that he got a bunch of contracts in when he was hot stuff. Yeah. And then over the course of like a number of years, people were like, I don't know if people like this guy, but we all... Do we like him?

He's got all these ironclad contracts. I don't mean us, I mean the people in the boardrooms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we don't. Well, I don't. Yeah, I think he signs some ironclad contracts and they're like, all right, we've got to make these, I guess. We're doing more of these, I guess.

We're going to do Thrawn. It's a Thrawn. But you like Thrawn Legacy. I like Thrawn Legacy a lot. Tron 1 is a real oddity. I mean, I think at the time it's not good even. But I think it's a fun oddity and what a swing. But I just don't think it's good.

I think it's weird and boring. It's boring. But not interesting weird. It is very boring. No, it is interesting weird. Yeah. But it's so boring. Yeah. But it's interesting. It's interesting. But it's boring. But not interesting weird. It is very boring. No, it is interesting weird. Yeah. But it's so boring. Yeah.

But it's interesting. It's interesting. But it's boring. It's a boring movie and it's long. It takes forever. Looks like shit. Meandering. It looks bad.

But again, you've got to remember at the time. Exactly. Yeah. It's like there's a whole, and the way that they put it together, it's a lot of like, a lot of it is not digital. Yes. Corridor Crew guys did a bunch of stuff on it, but I know you talk about one thing in particular

where they recreated the light cycle chase in like an afternoon. It looks better than the one they did at the time. But definitely groundbreaking. Yeah. But the second one, I should watch it again because it's quite good. It is good. Yeah. Put it on your big old TV.

Put it on at 4K or whatever. Can I put it on this little TV? I mean, yeah. Do you want to do Tron Legacy for our commentary? No, it's boring. Legacy? No, it's good. I like it.

I don't know. I don't know if people are as on board with it as I am. I think there's people. And the soundtrack's obviously amazing. It's the best thing Daft Punk's ever done, I think. Really? Yes, I think so. See, it'd be interesting if they had got a move on with it.

Because that's the least derivative. Oh, snap. I can say that now because they're gone. They're retired. No, they're behind you. Oh, no. Their helmet's filled up with red wine and cigarette ash and they had to retire.

They had to retire the personas. But Trot Legacy is amazing to me also because why did they make it? Well, why did they make it? And it's fascinating to me that, you know, many of the people in it, you know, the originals still had careers and they're just like, we can bring back Jeff Bridges. And who's the other one? Bruce.

Bruce Boxleitner. I guess it's only the two guys. Yeah, but, I mean, that's all you need. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was also this, okay, also people might not know, Tron is about a man who gets sucked into a computer. And then he has to fight a computer, the mainframe or something. It's slightly more complicated than that.

No, it's not. But I shan't bore you with it, yes. And then the second one, it's his son and he's disappeared because he got sucked into a computer. His father disappeared. Yes. But his father has built an avatar of himself who now runs the Tron dimension

who still looks like his father did when he was young. More or less, yes. Yeah, more or less. Well, it's good. They've de-aged him. Yes. And it's one of the earliest examples of that and it's mostly pretty good.

Yeah. But it's also very uncanny, which also works because he's a CGI man or whatever. Except there is a brief. There's a brief. He's in the real world or whatever. But, yeah.

And it's got, like, Garrett Hedlund. Yes. And it's got Olivia Munn. Yeah. Is it Olivia Munn? It's Olivia Munn. Wait, no, it's Olivia Wilde. Yeah.

And there is a brief uncredited Cillian Murphy cameo. Yes. Because they were setting him up to be in a third one, which never happened. Would have liked to have seen that. But anyway, it's a visual tour de force. You kind of have to see. No, you don't have to.

I reckon you can go into the second one. But I don't know how they made it. All I know is that somebody with some sort of production know-how got Jeff Bridges in to do a concept trailer. And it's not quite the same as the final product, but just the concept of an older Jeff Bridges, Kevin Flynn character who's been trapped in this universe for a long time and the deadly light cycle race

and all that sort of stuff. And then it got enough juice from Disney that they're like, we'll make a full-length version of this. And nobody saw it. It didn't. it didn't the worst let me check the numbers on that but god damn it looks good and the sound design yeah yeah it's not i don't think it's like a complete hit no like all around but then again i haven't seen it since so it was it cost 170 million it's probably made 400 which is pretty good considering it's a fucking Tron sequel. The Wizard.

And Michael Sheen's in it. He's a weird David Bowie robot man or whatever. The Wizard. And by the way, everything from the first one is back except it looks good. So they take like, they have like this discus frisbee game where if you get hit you turn into pixels or whatever but they've changed it into like blocky like god damn it's good and the light cycle stuff it's all good uh the wizard you know about the wizard right yeah 1989 yeah it's essentially it's about uh getting a young boy across the country to play in a super

mario brothers tournament yes and it is it is a it's and it's a shameless advertisement for all of Nintendo's products and the upcoming Super Mario Brothers 3. That was the big reveal. The big reveal in the movie. On par with Empire Strikes Back reveal. Maybe it was. I think for kids it was though, right? I didn't know Mario when this came out, so I wasn't like,

oh, my God, it's Mario. Mario 3 for me has always existed. Yeah, right. But did it blow your mind, this movie you didn't see? Yes. It did. I didn't see it in cinemas. Yeah.

I think it's more of those VHS ones that people know. But it's like people would know the memes and the power glove and the Zapper gun and whatever. Pretty bold. And they've never really done anything like that since. Yeah. Yeah. Can you look it up real quick?

Now they do Nintendo Directs. What am I looking up? Could you look up and see if anybody who was in that has gone on to any kind of like... Well, it stars Fred Savage. Oh, right. Bring it back, I say. I agree.

Yeah. The Wizard cast. Here we go. Bring it back. Christian Slater's in it. Okay. Bo Bridges is in it. Another Bridges. Here we go. Bring it back. Christian Slater's in it. Okay. Bo Bridges is in it.

Another Bridges. Bridges. My God. Imagine those two dueling franchises. Jeff Bridges brings back Tron Legacy and Bo Bridges is like, well, I've got to bring back the Wizard. So there you go. There's some people in it. Okay, well.

But, yeah, it was criticized at the time of just like this is an ad. It is. It is an ad. Yeah is. It is an ad. So there you go. I don't have anything else to say other than I never cared about it. We should watch it though, I think. Why? Because just to see how bad it is.

All right. Good commentary on it. Okay, great. No. It also does that thing of like the autistic kid who's really a genius and whatever. Was that? Okay.

There's that subplot, which I hate. Not because, I should clarify, because the portrayals of autism in movies and TV is often not very good. And it's just like you're either a super genius one second and then you slap in your head in the next scene. You know what I mean? Anyway, whatever. Wreck-It Ralph movies.

Yes. I've only seen Wreck-It Ralph one. Have you seen any of them? I've not seen a Wreck-It Ralph movies. Yes. I've only seen Wreck-It Ralph one. And he's basically, have you seen any of them? No, I've not seen a Wreck-It Ralph. So he's like, he's a Donkey Kong kind of dude. Yes. And so he's the bad guy in a game and Ralph comes along and he's up the top and he's like, I'm going to wreck it.

And he has to, it's Donkey Kong. Sure. But it's interesting because Wreck-It Ralph is set in an arcade and they jump from cabinet to cabinet, right? But the other thing is there are real video game characters in it. Sure. So, like, Bowser's in it. Okay.

And, like, Sonic. And they just kind of make little cameos. Okay. He's in, like, a bad guy support group. But in a Space Jam 2 kind of way? No, it's a good movie. Okay. And apparently the second one's also good.

So, yeah, worth watching, definitely. Especially if you've got kids or whatever. But don't. Fun. John C. Reilly. If I watch it as a regular good. So, yeah, worth watching, definitely, especially if you've got kids or whatever. But don't. Fun. John C. Reilly. If I watch it as a regular man. Yeah, definitely. John C. Reilly is Ralph.

Oh. And the second one is called Wreck-It Ralph to Break the Internet. It's not what it's called. No, it's called Breaks the Internet. It is. And he's got the champagne flute in his butt and he's popping the cork over his head. Wow. It's true.

It's true, Mason. Look it up on the internet. I don't want to look up. I don't want to put that combination of search terms in my Google. I bet that exists. I bet that exists. Great. I'm glad for everybody who did that.

Do you want to talk about the original Free Guy? Gamer. The movie Gamer. Oh my god, it's not the original Free Guy. I've seen the movie Gamer. Why isn't it the original Free Guy? Because that's not... No, it's a different plot. I've seen the movie Gamer. Why isn't it the original Free Guy? Because that's not. It's not about. No, it's a different plot.

What's the plot of Gamer? Death Row. They're on Death Row or something. Oh, that's right. And people control Death Row inmates. It's Call of Duty but real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they put prison inmates.

They put a thing in the back. Dexter Morgan. Yes. Michael C. Hall. Michael C. Hall? Yes. Puts like a thing in the back, Dexter Morgan. Yes. Michael C. Hall. Michael C. Hall? Yes. Puts like a thing in the back of their head and then you can control them in a real environment. Yeah, but what they didn't count on is Jerry Butler.

They didn't know. They didn't know that they put in actor Jerry Butler and he's a killing machine. That's right. And then he ends up shooting Dexter Morgan at the end. Oh. I believe. Okay.

And Logan Lerman is like the kid. Who's Logan Lerman? He's the Percy Jackson kid. Okay. Is Amy Smart in this movie? It feels like a movie Amy Smart would be in. Yeah, because she's like, you've got to come home because I've got a kid. And he's like, oh, God, I'm a gamer.

Oh, you know, we mentioned the other week, what's Amy Smart up to? Because we did a crank commentary. We did. She's in Stargirl. Oh, is she? Yeah. She's the mum. You're thinking of Amber Valenta. Okay, great. Who's in it. Great. We did. She's in Stargirl. Oh, is she? Yeah. There you go. You're thinking of Amber Valenta.

Okay, great. Who's in it. Great. You idiot. You absolute cretin. Is she giving off Amy Smart vibes? Very much so. That's what I thought. She was in, what is she in? I know her in things. In the movie Gamer, obviously. Oh, she's in Hitch.

She's Kevin James' love interest in that. There you go. Wow, that's fun Hitch. She's Kevin James' love interest in that. There you go. Wow, that's fun. Here's a question for you. I know you haven't seen it, but I have to ask. Have I seen it? Whatever it is. The movie Pixels, the original gamer.

I've not seen the movie Pixels. What is Pixels, do you know? It's the Kevin James, as we mentioned. And the Adam Sandler. Yes. And a third and fourth guy. Yep. One of them might be Josh Gad.

One of them might be Josh Gad. Also, Kevin James is the president in that. Anyway, aliens come to Earth and they take the form of classic video game characters. And it's kind of like Ghostbusters. Yes. Because they're like a Ghostbusting team or whatever except they're all – you know, it's Donkey Kong and it's Pac-Man and fucking whatever.

I remember Donkey Kong and Pac-Man. But the thing is as well, I don't know if you've ever seen the short film that this is based on. I have seen – that's the one thing I have seen. God damn, it's good. Yeah. And they just – but you know what? I haven't seen it.

Maybe it's really good, but by all accounts, it's not very good at all. It's an Adam Sandler movie of that era. Yeah. So bad. Which also could be this era. Who knows? Who knows what he's doing? Uncut Gems.

Yeah, but then he'll be like, remember he said if he didn't win the Oscar, he was going to make like the worst movie ever? And then he made that Murder Mystery movie or something. I think that was before. No, then he made Hubie Halloween. Oh, yes. I didn't say that.

I didn't mind murder mystery, though. I didn't mind it either. Yeah. But I think I've even said this on the show, but I think pixels was such an interesting concept that they just completely just wasted. What could they have, Dawn? Also, at the end, there's a sexy video game girl in it,

like a digital woman, and Josh Gad is in love with her because she's from a game or something. I think I saw this in reviews. I haven't seen the actual movie. I think I've watched extensive reviews about this. And she dies or something, and at the end, he becomes friends with Q-Bert, and Q-Bert- Oh, he takes the form of the sexy lady?

Yes. Okay, right. I don't know what that means. That's good, I guess. That's great. Is that how Q-Bert ends? I hope so. Yep.

This is something a bit more low budget, but it's not without its charms. The angry video game nerd of the movie. Can I ask before we get onto that? Sure. Because I'm very excited to discuss the angry video game nerd of the movie. What would you have changed in the movie Pixels? Like how would you have made it a better film?

I wouldn't have given it to any of those people. Sure. I mean, imagine if you did it, I would aim for Ghostbusters. Okay. But weren't they aiming for Ghostbusters, you would think? I don't think so. No, they would have because, you know, Adam Sandler's an SNL guy. I guess.

And Josh Gad is in it. I guess. And maybe he's been on SNL. Maybe. Maybe he's hosted it once. I don't know. I don't know either. And Josh Gad is in it. I guess. And maybe he's been on SNL. Maybe. Maybe he's hosted it once. I don't know. I don't know either. Maybe he's not in it at all.

But I mean, what would you, you know, that is the Ghostbusters formula. Yeah. Because you have mysterious happenings. Okay, here you go. And then you have some SNL guys. Here's what I'd do. Yes. I'd make it funny.

Oh, nice. Perfect. Okay. I don't know how. No further questions. But I think, like, if it's funny, you can. Perfect. Okay. I don't know how. No further questions. But I think, like, if it's funny, you can forgive a lot, right? Yeah, for sure. You know?

And weirder. Weird, obscure stuff, I guess. Okay. Carmen Sandiego could be in it. Sexy lady or whatever, you know what I mean? Sure. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Angry video game nerd, the movie. Okay, I'm listening. This is like the Jay and Silent Bob of, like, low budget whatever. whatever you know there's been a lot of like youtubers who make yes movies and look if you like the angry video game nerd it's just that you know what i mean like he's doing a little adventure and he does a little review in it and it's about unearthing the et all the buried et video games yeah which at the time when he started writing it was a rumor, but before it came out it was proven to be real. Yes.

And it's also, but they couldn't use E.T. for licensing purposes, so they had to like recreate the game for the review. So at the end he does the review because that's always been the review that people wanted him to do. Okay, right. And look, it's an astounding effort, but if you don't know who he is, it's nonsense. Like you would be like, I don't know. I don't get this.

Okay. So you've seen this? I've seen it, yeah. Because, you know, I like him and, you know, why not? You know? He's still doing it. I think we talked about it. When did you see this? When it came out?

It would have been around then. Maybe not straight away. I think you saw it straight away. I think you rushed out. I think you were probably in school or whatever. And you're like, whoa. Whatever it cost and, you know what I mean? And, you know, because I'd watched his content for years for free Whatever it cost him, you know what I mean? You know, because I'd watched his content

for years for free, so why not? You know what I mean? But again, if you're not a fan. I think you should watch it anyway if you're not a fan and tell us what you thought about it. Why not? Absolutely why not? Maybe he'll get a new fan. Maybe he will. The two Mungie movies.

Not the first Jumanji. Yes. Or the movie Zathura. But the two Mungies. the two Manjis after that. They're in a video game sort of. It sure are. Because even though it's like a magic board game that becomes a 90s Sega Mega Drive system or whatever, but they have like NPCs and like quests and video game powers and all that kind of stuff.

I think that's probably the peak of this genre we've come up with here, which is the movies that are sort of video game-ish. Was the peak for you when Donald Glover, no, Danny Glover, Donald Glover's father. Officially. They're not related. But he turned into a horse at the end. Yes.

Yes. They're pretty good, right? Yeah. I mean, if anything, that's probably the peak of human culture is Danny Glover becoming a horse on screen. So there you go. I think they're fun and, you know, and they're not as scary as like first. Real life?

Yeah. That's certainly true. So if you're like, oh, I'm scared right now. I wish I was doing something. It wasn't so scary. Watch the Jumanji movie. Punch or whatever, whatever. Now, I've put in brain scan.

What is that? I don't know. I've never heard of that thing you said. Can you help me? No, I can't. I don't know what brain scan is. I don't know what scan is, but I don't think that's what you're talking about. Okay, let's not talk about it then.

No, I think you should Google it real quick and just read out the synopsis. We'll say definitively whether it's good or not. All right. Maybe we'll find a new pinnacle. There we go. It's a 1994... Okay, we have to read it out and we have to determine whether or not this is better than Danny Glover becoming a horse in a video game.

I'm just going to read you the plot and it starts with this. A lonely boy named Michael Brower, Edward Furlong, lives in an isolated existence in his absent father's mansion. Michael's mother was killed in a car accident, which also permanently injured his leg. From his bedroom window, he spends his spare time watching his crush, a typical girl next door. What does that even mean? A typical girl next door.

You know, straw sun hat, riding a bicycle with a basket on the front. Lounging by a pool. What a straw. Straw basket. Lying on a bale of hay. Yeah, be a bale of hay. In a meadow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chewing on some straw. Chewing on some straw, exactly. Exactly. Occasionally

killing a chicken with an axe. Unbeknownst to Michael, it feels the same way. They're both a huge fan of horror and video games, and Michael's only friend is a similarly minded friend named Kyle, and blah, blah, blah. When's the brain scan happen? Anyway, they're members of a horror club at school. No wonder nobody's heard of this,

because nobody's getting their brain scanned. The principal bans horror club, so Kyle tells Michael about a new ultra-realistic game called Brain Scan. Intrigued, Michael sends away for a first disc. The game begins strange with a warning screen information informing him that the experience has much in common with hypnotic suggestion.

During his first experience with the game, Michael is encouraged to act as a psychotic murderer by the game's host, an entity known as Trickster. In-game, Michael murders a stranger and takes his foot as a trophy. Later, he's horrified to discover that his victim in the game was a real person. Whoa. And the same murder also happened in the real. Okay, so he's doing murders and then it's real.

Got it. Great. I mean, I feel like you probably could have skipped Horror Club. Like, you could have gone straight to the brain scan. People didn't like it. Got 30% on tomatoes. Whoa. Offers zero in the way of sick thrills.

But anyway, if you're familiar with Serenity 2019, I'm going to spoil it. It's a Matthew McConaughey movie. Anyway, it turns out at the end, the whole thing is a video game that Matthew McConaughey's son has created and he's dead. And then he's playing as his father in a virtual world or something. Oh, my God. Did you know about this? Nope, not at all.

Anne Hathaway. Oh. So, yeah, there you go. Okay. All right. Do you remember that episode of Red Dwarf? Which one? And yes.

The episode where they all go down to like an undersea base and then they wake up and they come to believe The Suicide Squad. Suicide Squid episode. Yeah, they come to believe that they have actually been playing a video game called the Red Dwarf Total Immersion Game. Do you remember that? I do. And Crichton is Jake Bullitt. Yes. And Cat is Dwayne

Dibley. Yes. And then the other two. I do remember that. I do remember that. It's good stuff. Good episode. There's a lot of VR in Red Dwarf. Anyway, this is the Red Dwarf episode. This is all we're doing. All the time we've talked about Red Dwarf, you can pin together. Pin them together. Yeah.

Pin them together. I know you've seen this because we watched it together. War Games. Remember this one? Matthew Roderick has to fight a computer. He has to convince a computer not to nuke everything. He has to fist fight a computer. Queensbury rules.

That's right. No biting. It's a lot of dialing up things and getting, remember he has to dial up to get his video games every week or something or whatever? Hell yeah. I didn't like it. Okay.

Maybe it was beloved at the time, but it did get like a directed DVD sequel a few years back. Yeah, it did. War games. War games. War games too, war games. At the end he beats the computer by making it play tic-tac-toe against itself. Oh.

And then it was at an impasse and then it went maybe war not good. Oh. Maybe no war games. Let's wait for the sequel. Okay. And then Ready Player One happened. We should talk about that, I guess. Okay.

It's bad. Is it? I mean, it is, but it's not as bad as I thought it was, I guess. Okay. It's bad. Is it? I mean, it is, but it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. No, that's true. I still haven't read the book. Yeah. Are you going to? Maybe.

People say you'll love it. People say even if you didn't love the movie, you, Nick Mason, should give it a chance. Who's saying that? People email you, don't they? People said Nick Mason gave it a chance. A few people did. Yeah, okay, actually, yeah, you're right.

Are you going to do it? Yeah, maybe. You won't do it. No, if I have an extraordinary amount of free time, which I've had in the last year and I still haven't done it. Exactly. Lawnmower Man. Hell yeah.

We did a game once on it. We played the Lawnmower Man Super Nintendo game. Oh, that's right. It was awful. Caravan of Garbage. Yeah. It's the Stephen King. What is Lawnmower Man about?

The movie or the short story? Whatever. The short story is literally about a man who kills other people with a lawnmower. Okay. And the other Lawnmower Man is about the power of virtual reality. What do they have? Remember when virtual reality was invented and people were like, what could this do?

Maybe it can do anything. Let's make a movie about how virtual reality can do anything. And then they released it and then two days later people were like, can't really do anything at all. It can give you motion sickness if you stand in a little circle with a 20-pound helmet on your head. Give you a neck crack. Yeah, that's what it can do.

Does it make a man smart or something? It does make a man smart. But then he goes mad? Then he goes mad. There was Lorne 2 Man, Lorne 2 Man, second one, wasn't it? It was the sequel. Oh, yeah, maybe. Lawn becomes man.

That's right. I don't know. They put the lawn. They put the lawn clippings in the virtual reality machine. It became Super Smart Lawn. Artificial turf. I only have one more that I want to talk about, but I know there are many more,

and maybe you have ones that you would like to talk about also. Maybe on a subsequent episode. This has gone on long enough. I virtuosity yes the first team up between russell crowe and denzel washington they pretended that they'd never worked together before when they were in american gangster but little did they know that we've seen the movie virtuosity which was from 94 or 95 and it's all the serial killers in the world. Yes. Blood and brains go together to make a virtual man. Correct, yes.

Called Mr. Virtuosity. Basically, somebody saw Romper Stomper and went, what if Romper Stomper, but he was an AI man or whatever. What if Romperper stomper plus max headroom basically that is exactly what it is so russell crowe gets out in the real world and then um they put his they put his virtual personality too close to a a nanite machine yeah it makes him a body 3d printer or something yeah it's glass and then at the end and then denzel washington was in jail or something and then they're like, we're going to get you out of jail so you can fight.

Mr. Virtuosity himself. That's right. Virgilosity. That's right. And so it just kind of, there's a lot of running about a city and defusing bombs maybe. I don't know. It's the future kind of.

Is it? Don't know. We should watch that again. Yeah. I remember thinking it was insanity. It's probably unavailable. I reckon Denzel and Russell Crowe have combined their fortunes. They've pulled their fortunes to have it removed from everything probably.

Let me check. It's a 95 film. God. It cost $30 million and it made $24 million. That's less than it cost to make. It's on Prime Video to rent. Should be free. Should be free.

Great. Let me check if I can. I'm just going to email them. Should be free. No, it's Great. Let me check if I can. I'm just going to email them. Should be free. No, it's to buy. It's $13. But to rent, it's $4. Okay.

Something to think about. It is something to think about, isn't it? Yeah. I think that's it, though, for me. Yeah. Got any faves? Is it the two Mungies? Is it Tron Legacy?

It's Tron Legacy. Is it? It's not as easy accessible a world as Jumanji is like Jumanji is like of course they're in video games of course it makes sense yeah yeah

but I think I think Tron Legacy is a better world yeah I agree with that I wouldn't want to live in it no but it looks cool would you want to live in the Jumanji world?

no because you're always getting stung by big scorpions or whatever and doors at the end right yeah I'm not retired James Bond I don't want to get stung by big scorpions or whatever. And doors at the end. Right? Yeah. I'm not retired James Bond. I don't want to get stung by scorpions. It's true.

It's always a scorpion under a shot glass or whatever. Oh, thank you. I'm just reading here, Free Guys had a 26.4 million opening weekend. That's okay, I guess. That's okay. Wait, is it getting a cinema release as well? Yes. It seems low.

Yeah, it does a bit. It's because Suicide Squad had about that. Suicide Squad's doing quite well though, isn't it? I know. It's had a massive drop off apparently. But, you know, what do you do? If I was James Gunn, honestly, I wouldn't care because it's good. Yeah, yeah.

And we're in a pandemic and whatever. Exactly. And people will see it eventually. You'd embrace your grey hair. I would. You'd be like, this doesn't make me look old. This makes me look distinguished. I think he looks better with a beard and grey hair. I would. You'd be like, this doesn't make me look old. This makes me look distinguished. I think he looks better with a beard and grey hair.

Maybe I'm just projecting, Mason. But I think it's who he is at his core. Anyways, I'm off to dye my hair jet black. Okay, off you go. I'm really leaving. He's leaving. He's dyeing his eyebrows on the way out of the door. His eyebrows are so black now.

Anything else? Because if not, we can do the next segment. We're doing it? Here we go. Get the hype going, James. Let me bring it up. Let me bring it up. Bring up the next segment.

Here it comes. Here we go. It's coming in hot. Here we go. Let me check. All right, he's checking the gate. Oh, my God. I'm just thinking about virtuosity.

Every day. Here we go. What's the be reading theme What happens in that? Like what notable action sequence is happening He's just eating glass He's just mostly eating glass, isn't he? Westworld Speaking of virtual worlds, Westworld Oh yeah, that's a virtual world, yeah

Sort of? It's more of a robot world Yeah But in a way Go on It's a bloody society, isn't it? Everyone's a bloody robot droning on their way to bloody work and the bloody, I mean, you're bloody getting in your car

and you drive bloody 50 minutes to work and you have 50 minutes. Who's the real bloody robot? You know what I mean? Yeah. Still robots, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like Arnold Schwarzenegger in The Terminator and stuff. That was fiction, though. He's not really a robot.

No, that's actually true. His skeleton is normal skeleton. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahzenegger in the Terminator and stuff. That was fiction, though. He's not really a robot. No, that's actually true. Skeleton is normal skeleton. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What have you been reading? I'd like to see a skeleton, though. Do you know what I mean? Just give me a peek.

Let me know for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just give me a, just let me see a little bit of it. Wow, what I've been doing. I said I was going to play a Plague Tale last week. Do you remember? I do remember that, yeah. But I have been button mashing my way through the Matrix path of neo because we're going to do caravans of garbage

yes it's like attorneys general caravans of garbage that's right and that's movies next week okay not this week so you've been playing the video game that is sort of based on it's not sort of it is strictly based on and some bonus stuff. Okay, and some deviations from the norm. Yes. Of the original Matrix trilogy. Yes. So this isn't Into the Matrix. This is Path of Neo.

I think we might do Into the Matrix as a separate entity because it is in a way because they filmed a bunch of stuff while they were filming the Matrix sequels. Yeah. So are you enjoying this? You know, I kind of am. I mean, it sucks and it's really janky, but it's kind of amazing at the same time. It was amazing at the time, I feel.

It's always been janky and it always has looked like shit. Yes. Like the character models, my God. Because it was like the same year as like God of War and Prince of Persia and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But all the characters look like and all the settings mostly look like the stuff you find in an open world era of the game

where there's like really flat detail to it. Yeah, right, right, right. So it's something you'd find in like the getaway. Remember like that grand the daughter sped up? Because then you look at like God of War and Prince of Persia and all the rooms are designed so beautifully and craft. This is like, this is an alley, I don't know, you know. But it's kind of amazing, honestly.

Yeah. And I think we're going to slip a little bit of it into every episode that we do. Okay, sure. If I can get it running properly, which I'm still having some problems with. Okay. But we'll see how we go. Yeah.

What have you been doing? I've been watching Hacks. Hacks? Which is an HBO TV series. Hacks? Yeah, Hacks, James. Tell me about it. Well, it's an HBO series. I think it's pronounced Hacks? Yeah, Hacks, James. Tell me about it. Well, it's an HBO series.

I think it's pronounced Hacks. Oh, sure. Sorry, go on. Well, I'll leave that to you. I'll just point if I need it said. That has gotten 15 Emmy nominations. So all of a sudden, Australia's like, we should probably get on this. Yeah.

So it's available on Stan if you're in Australia. Oh, I have seen this come up. Yeah. So it's Jean Smart and Hannah Einbinder is her name. One plays sort of a legendary veteran comedian, sort of like a… Joan Rivers. Joan Rivers, there we go. That's exactly who I'm thinking of, who's just done like 2,000 dates at Vegas

and she's kind of like on cruise control. She's very successful. She's done it all, but she's kind of like creatively and passion. Like she's very successful. She's done it all. But she's kind of like creatively and like passion-wise she's on the decline. And then we've got on the other side we've got kind of a young comedy writer and she's just been cancelled because she did an off-colour tweet on like a slow news day and she got piled on and then she fought back and then people are like, well, we're dumping you from your jobs and we're not going to hire you or whatever.

And so they both need each other. One wants to get some relevance and one wants a job. So they've got to team up. Sounds a bit like Funny People. Is that what Funny People is? Have you seen Funny People? Yeah, a long time ago. Sam Sandler and Seth Rogen's button jokes or whatever.

I mean, it doesn't get cancelled. Eric Banner's in there? Yes. It's too long. Okay, great. But it's got some good stuff in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I will watch that. It sounds funny also, right? Yeah. It's too long. Okay, great. But it's got some good stuff in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I will watch that.

It sounds funny also, right? Right? Yeah. It's comedy drama. That's what I like. Did you ever watch that Jim Carrey I'm So Depressed or whatever show? Oh, no. What's it called again?

Happy, Funny? I don't know. Hey, you. Look at this. My poster. There's a cloud on my poster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sad.

Yes. Happy, sad? Happy, sad. Yep. That's it. Something like that. I'm going to look it up real quick. I've got to know. I've got to know the answer. I, yeah, yeah. I'm sad. Yes. Happy sad? Happy sad. Yep. That's it. Something like that. I'm going to look it up real quick. I've got to know.

I've got to know the answer to that. I can look it up if you want also. Yeah. Jim. Happy sad? Fun, happy. Fun man, but he's sad. Sad.

I'm sad. Kidding. There we go. Okay. I'm sad though. Kidding though. I think his family died in it or something. Oh, my God. I watched some of it and I'm sad, though. Kidding, though. I think his family died in it or something. Oh, my God.

I watched some of it and I'm like. Jim Carrey's done a lot of just a lot of completely under the radar stuff. Didn't he also do a thing with either Elijah Wood or Daniel Radcliffe? The mask? No. That thing where they're in a cult or something. Jim Carrey. Is it a series?

I mean, he's rich, so he can do anything. Yeah, he just does like portraits of George W. Bush, and they've got devil horns or whatever. Oh, that's cutting. That's right, yeah. Is he allowed to get away with that? No. The police are on their way to his mansion.

Is this guy anti-vax as well? Dark crimes? He was for a while. No, no, no, no. The Bad Batch? Nope. Kids? Nope.

Saturday Night Live? What era are you looking at? I'm looking at this recent era. Okay. So it was Sonic the Headshot. I'll just look up Jim Carrey, Elijah Wood. How looking at? I'm looking at this recent era. Okay. So it was Sonic the Hedgehog. I'll just look up Jim Carrey, Elijah Wood. How about that? Yeah, see if that comes up.

Eternal Sunshine of the Spoiler's Mind is a movie that they were in together. There you go. What was the other person you said might have been in it? Might have been Daniel Radcliffe. It says they've never met. Whoa. My God. My God.

I don't know, man. Okay. I'll look it up later. I'll do some original research. Please do. I'll't know, man. Okay, I'll look it up later. I'll do some original research. Please do. I'll Photoshop their faces together. I'm sorry if he's sharing an ice cream sundae. I'm sorry if he's not anti-vax because he might not be.

I don't actually know. There is a lot of results for Jim Carrey anti-vax. Why am I doing this to myself? I don't know. Should we go to do letters? I'm still looking. Okay. What else have you been doing, James?

You been reading a thing? Watching a thing? Yeah. Great. Great stuff. I don't know, man. Just banging about. Locked down doing homeschooling.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lots of that stuff. Yeah. Claire was on an episode of Do Go On. She was on Do Go On. She did Sex and the City. Yeah.

Yes, that's cool. So if you want to know which Sex and the City character is represented by which Ninja Turtle, tune on in. That will tell you. And it's hot stuff. I listened to it and I loved it. I've also seen every episode of that show and I'm looking forward to the reboot. Not reboot, continuation.

Because they're going to kill big. I can't wait. I suspect. Are they going to execute him? I hope so. In the streets? No, Tiananmen Square. Oh my God.

Yeah. He gets in a time machine. He gets up back there. He's like, what's going on? Wow. You know? And the only thing he's left is just like a squish, like a roll of toothpaste with a cigar sticking out the top.

Mr. Big and Flat. That's what he would be. So there you go. They have to kill him because she has to be single. Otherwise, what are we doing? I'm married and I'm awful and my husband's awful, which is what those movies ended up being. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, what are we doing? I'm married and I'm awful and my husband's awful, which is what those movies ended up being. Yeah, okay. I guess there's no

appeal to that. You couldn't just be like, oh, long for something else and then he gets killed by the tank. Squished like a roll of toothpaste. Yeah, yeah, I know. Just a big and wide and flat. Yes. Yeah. Anyway, I think Chris Knoth hates that character also. So I'd be happy to go. And Samantha's not in it, so I don't know how it's going to go.

Probably not good, but I'm still going to watch it. All right, anything else? Should we do the letter segment? What do you have? Anything else for you? Did you carry anti-vax? I don't know, man. We should ask him.

We should also ask him about that show he did with either Daniel Radcliffe or Elijah Wood. Doesn't exist, Mason. I feel. Maybe I am thinking of kidding. Maybe there's somebody in that who looks kind of Elijah Woody. Well, he hasn't done that much recently. Did you see Elijah Wood on Hot Ones this week?

I did. Good. Good episode. I like that guy a lot. Unless he's anti-vax. Yeah, then. Thank you. Thank you.

All right, let's do Letters. Let's do it. The classic one was Letters Oh Letters We love you Some letters They're only

A day Away I know they're here right now We're gonna do Letters Yeah it's time for Letters That's right And what I love Oh yeah it's about the death

Of one of his sons Why would I watch that No fucking thank you Jesus Christ I mean shows can be about would I watch that? No fucking thank you. Jesus Christ. I mean, shows can be about anything, but that is like, no. No thank you. Folks, if you want to get in contact with us, you can go to weasleyplanetpod at gmail.com.

This is from Meg. Hi, Meg. Hello, gentlemen. Super huge fan of the pod here. Just listened to the Caravan of Garbage episode about Suicide Squad 2016 where you were talking about Jared Leto's Joker performance. I am a human woman from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and was here during the filming of Suicide Squad 2016. We were talking about Jared Leto's Joker performance. I am a human woman from Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

I was here during the filming of Suicide Squad. I mean, it makes me think you're some sort of alien person. Yeah, the way you said that. But that's alright, fine. Take it as given. One time I was walking home with my lady pal of mine at 3am. The streets were empty and quiet. 3am, I must be lonely. The streets were empty

and quiet. Suddenly we heard This howl Shriek laugh Behind us I was so startled I nearly peed We turned around It was Jared Leto On a bicycle

He had battery acid Green hair And was in character As the Joker He shrieked laugh Once again And pedalled away We yelled after him

F you Jared Leto Because how dare Someone's method acting Get in the way Of having unsoiled pants You can only imagine How furious we were When Suicide Squad came out and Jared Leto wasn't in it at all.

He'd spent weeks terrorising our city for absolutely no reason. Thank you so much for all the work you do, your friend Meg. Can I be the official Torontonian night owl of the podcast? Yes, you can. That's great. Oh, I love everything about that. We don't think about how much he would have affected the normal people of the world because it's all like, oh, he tormented Margot Robbie and Will Smith or whatever, but he would have spent weeks

if not months in that gear. Just everybody around. Just wandering around. Going to a Tim Hortons. Oh, God. You know how people are trying to order their Tim Hortons? Trying to pay with used condoms. That's right.

If he pays at all. At a Tim Hortons. That's a local reference people know. It's a coffee. It's like a Dunkin' Donuts. I know what it is because you say it all the time. It's my only Canadian reference that I know. You could have said the Maple Leaf Store.

Yeah, no, that's probably true. We're just in line at Poutine Plus. Just getting our poutine and more. You want a hollowed out mousse? We'll do it. We'll put it on your wall. Let's do a hollowed out mose? we'll do it we'll put it on your wall let's steal a hollowed out moose on your wall

I agree yeah so that's insanity if you do want to reach the show though in terms of letters did I do this bit? hashtag weeklyplanetpod

on twitter no you should do it or weeklyplanetpod.com definitely do that I think I just got thinking about Jim Carrey's Dead Son show threw me off.

How do you pronounce E-O-I-N? I meant to look this up. Yoan, I think. Yoan, thank you. This is from Yoan Byrne. It says, wanted to thank James and Maiso at the Weekly Planet for helping settle my nerves at my wedding last week and your unique blend of fury and whimsy.

My new wife now has a lifetime of asking me, why are we always listening to those shouting Australians? Great question. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. It is. That's for you to sort out. And that could be in the divorce proceedings. Some years later it could be like he was always listening

to those shouting Australians. That's right. He's doing it right now. He's got headphones in. This is proof, Your Honour. No, just kidding. Just kidding. Health and happiness.

Health, happiness. Do you have any marriage advice? I'm not married. No, it doesn't matter. What do you think we do here? Hey, it's a good point. Just kidding. Health and happiness. Health, happiness. Do you have any marriage advice? I'm not married. No, it doesn't matter. What do you think we do here? Hey, it's a good point. Just whatever. It's unsolicited, unqualified advice.

Man cave. Sure. Build a man cave. Start day one. Nah, it's weird. Your wife's like, hey, let's go for a walk. Husband and wife first, you know, go have a fun time. You can be like, can't.

Build a man cave out the back. I'm sick of this. I can't. I'll wait. Wait for my Billy Big Mouth parcel to come in today. I can't let it go back to the post office. I have to catch it when it comes to the door. I've got to shred this brand new recliner chair we've got.

I've got to make it look really old and gross. Put it in the man cave. It's got to be unsightly. You'd be like, get rid of that. And they'd be like, I won't. I'll put it in the man cave. That's got to be unsightly. You'd be like, get rid of that. And they'd be like, I won't. I'll put it in the man cave. That's right. Okay, that's good advice.

I like it. Hey, speaking of Jim Carrey. Oh, yeah. This is from Ben. He says, I was thinking what other movies could benefit from a James Gunn remake. Personally, I think The Truman Show would be perfect for him. Oh, yeah.

Am I curious what you think? God, you. I'm going to be the official forensic scientist student of the podcast. Ben from Michigan. Yes. Do you touch The Truman Show? Do you? I say no. I think I'm going to be the official forensic scientist student of the podcast. Ben from Michigan, yes. Do you touch the Truman Show? Do you?

I say no. It feels like very much a product of its time. Because of the nature of the reality. The medium and reality shown. I mean, there's, you know, well, I wonder, like, I'm sure you could do, like physically you could go, okay, what is reality TV like now? Yeah. Could we base a movie around that now?

Do you mean there's a sequel to be like, do you catch up with him now? Or if you can't get him, do you catch up with Ed TV, see what he's doing? Maybe you do. Yeah. Maybe there's some sort of blokes being tricked into being on reality TV Avengers. Just Ed TV, Truman Show. Yeah, yeah TV Avengers. Just MTV, Truman Show.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just them. Just the two of them. The situation. The situation's there. Yeah, great. Nice. Just have those three.

Yeah, just those three. The Holy Trinity of reality guys. Yeah. But more James Gunn. We've gotten off track immediately. Yeah. I don't know. I think it would be interesting to revisit the Truman Show as a character

to be like another character study of like what it is now or. Yeah, exactly. Or like what, yeah, like how did his life turn out when he went into the real reality, I guess. Probably bad. Probably bad because he would have still been famous. Yeah. He couldn't disappear. He's the most famous man in the world. The dog's trying to get in Probably bad because he would have still been famous. Yeah. He couldn't disappear.

He's the most famous man in the world. The dog's trying to get in. I'll quickly get the dog. Okay. What if you just gave James Gunn, like, creative control of the DCEU and were like, Green Lantern? What if they did a Green Lantern, James? I'm trying not to talk because the people can't hear me that way.

Oh. I love it. Yeah, nice. He can do good space stuff. Yeah, right? Because he's done Guardians, obviously. Yeah. I think the only Yeah, nice. He'd do good space stuff. Yeah, right? Because he's done Guardians, obviously. Yeah.

I think the only way you could do the Truman Show now, though, is you just do it for real. Oh, yeah? Just get a baby, don't tell it, trap it in there.

I reckon do tell it. That'd be fun for later because it'd be the big reveal and it'd be like, you know, 20 years down the track, 25 years, the person would be like,

what? This isn't real? Ah! And then you show them the clip of the producer being track, 25 years, the person would be like, what, this isn't real? And then you show them the clip of the producer being like, sneaking and leaning in, or baby being like, hey, you're on a reality TV show. We're telling you right now. You don't comprehend words right now.

You're dumb, baby. We got you. It's pretty fucked up, that movie, when you think about it. Agreed. I mean, you know, when you think about it, it's pretty much on the surface, that movie. Good movie, though. Good, great stuff. Good. Great stuff. God.

You know what? If you did do it, though, you wouldn't make it like a regular world. You'd make it a real, like, fucked up, like, sci-fi thing or, like, you're in a weird jungle something. I don't know. You know what I mean? Just mix it up. It's just like the regular world.

Make it like a... Oh, we're sitting here saying, right, right, right, right. You know, like, it's like, you know, you go to, like, Star Wars land or whatever. You do that. Yeah, okay. Put a bit to like Star Wars land or whatever. You do that. Yeah, okay. Put a bit of wind in Star Wars dimension where nothing makes sense or whatever. And if they ever escape that world, they'll be like, I don't know. Because I guess at the very least when Truman escaped the Truman Show,

he'd go outside and be like, okay, I know how things work. You have a job and you pay money for things or whatever. You figure it out. But if it was crazy science fiction world. Couldn't function. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You'd be like, I'm trying to pay for my lunch with quarter portions,

which are themselves lunch, I guess. I don't know, but people want money. I don't understand. Don't get it. Yeah. Love it. All right. What do you think James Gunn could do?

I mean, this is more a Truman Show question, I guess. I like that idea of giving him more DC control. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think DC are writing some ships regardless. Yeah, and also I don't think they would now because despite the fact that Suicide Squad was good, it didn't make a lot of money and so they'd be like, that's all they care about. That must factor in though, right? You'd think they would.

It's good. You'd think they would, but... Because you could just put him on a more popular property in a year where there's not a pandemic and it would probably do better. But I don't think their brains work very well. That might be right. So, you know, that's an issue, isn't it? That might be right.

He's someone whose brain does work well, I feel. This is from Carson Balin who says, Hi, James and Mason, my name is Carson Balin. Carson Cressley from Queer Eye, the original series of Queer Eye. Put him in that MTV movie. Yes. Get the culture guy. That guy who didn't do anything. No, you've got to pick one Queer Eye, the original series of Queer Eye. Put him in that in-TV movie. Yes. Get the culture guy. That guy who didn't do anything.

No, you've got to pick one Queer Eye guy. Okay. Because there's already three in the car. Yeah, that's true, yeah. All right? All right. We could maybe put a fifth, but it has to be from a different. We've got maybe a Paris Hilton because she was an early.

Okay, sure, sure. Reality television type. All right. Maybe someone from the real world. I reckon like Ted, who was the interior design guy for the original Queer Eye, because it'd be like, I'm just pretty normal, guys. I don't know why I'm here.

I just did the show for a couple of years and I just kept doing interior design. Yeah, you probably did. Or he was cooking. Not important. It was the guy that they went to last or whatever. Is that it? Because you do the hair.

No, culture was last. And the culture guy was like, I don't know, two tickets to the opera, I don't know, or an art gallery or something, I don't know. Why am I here? I think Ted was cooking. Get Ted, yeah. Good stuff. Anyway, Carson.

Cressley. Yes. I'm 5'6", and on the heavy side of 150 LBS. Oh, yes. Which was closer to 151, I assume. That would be the heavier side of that, wouldn't it? 150's not that heavy. I don't think it is. It's like 68 kilo. I looked it up.

Anyway, has any death from a movie slash TV show... Wait, why is that in there? He put it in there. I didn't put it in. It's made either of you cry. Do you think he's doing a whip around of like he's emailing a bunch of different podcasts? I don't know. It's like a Get Fit podcast or whatever it is.

Should I check his Twitter and see what he's up to? Yep. All right, here we go. Anyway, what was the question? He has one tweet and it's to us. Okay, great. And he's not following anybody. Okay.

And he has zero followers. Whoa. This is nuts. This guy's an enigma. But we know exactly what he weighs. Not exactly, but on the heavier side of 150, whatever it was. So 150 and

three-quarter portions. Three ounces. Five ounces. How many ounces in a pound? How many ounces to a dollar? 10, 12, 8. Depends on the, well, it's about water weight, isn't it? Yeah. But you've been cutting. Yeah. I don't know pounds at all. Okay, great.

What's the question? Any death from a TV show made you cry or movie? Up zero. Me too. Ah, weight. I had a friend who died when the Terminator went into the library and he put his thumb up. You had a friend who died?

No, sorry, cried. Okay. Was your friend the Terminator, James? I don't know. Okay. I your friend the Terminator, James? No. Okay. I just think they should check his skeleton. But no, I don't think so. It doesn't really, maybe misty-eyed,

but I can't even think of a specific example. Yeah. I mean, when Optimus Prime died in the Transformers movie, I remember my sister was there and she cried. Did she really? And then I didn't, so I've had to keep that up for, you know, the rest of my life. Did she really cry? I think so. so I've had to keep that up for the rest of my life. Did she really cry? I think so. So she was a fan?

She was sad about it. She was a fan? Nope. Not at all. I don't even know why she was there. Great question. There were 16 ounces in a pound. There we go. What's that in water weight, though? 16 aqua pounds. Terrific! 16 aqua ounces. Have you got any more? This is from Jared.

Jared. Jared Brazil he says good to be back with the boys oh yeah hi guys just wanted to thank you guys for keeping me entertained throughout this pandemic

listening to you ramble on about movies I have or haven't seen has been enjoyable thankfully I was able to see The Suicide Squad prior to listening to your podcast last week

it was great to know what you guys were talking about for a change glad to see the world might be getting back to normal hopefully although I have recently

moved halfway across Canada, could I please be the official new-fee, newfoundlander of the pod? Very good. Congratulations on the move. Of course you can, and enjoy your Tim Hortons. That's a local reference that I know. Enjoy your the guy

he's the president or the prime minister or what? Justin Trudeau. Enjoy your Justin Trudeau. Black your Justin Trudeau. Black face that he does. Don't enjoy that. Don't enjoy that. Enjoy. Enjoy when he's not doing it.

Enjoy when he's not doing it. Which is most of the time. Yeah. You know? Enjoy your superficially good prime minister. Agreed. God, he really went for it in that photo, didn't he? I know. Like hands and all.

Yep. He went all out. Yep. Why did he do it? I don't know. Anything else? That's all of the... I got one here we can do from Ben Cole who says,

With the CGI Looney Tunes in Space Jam and the CGI Rugrats reboot, do you think there will ever be a time when hand-drawn animation being redone in CGI doesn't become so jarring? Hashtag wiki planet pod. I didn't find the Space Jam one that jarring. Really? Did you? No, I didn't.

It wasn't upsetting. And the Rugrats one looks a bit... Yeah, yeah. But there's like a distinct style to Rugrats, which I enjoyed. Nah, probably not. It'll always be a bit weird. Yeah, yeah. Unless you can make it better.

I really hope that hand-drawn animation doesn't become a lost art. Me too. I don't think it will just because, you know, people's passion for it always exists. It might become a bit niche, but I don't think it'll go away. But then again, people aren't drawn on caves, mate, so you've got to think about it like that, don't you? Yeah, that's a good point, actually.

People still take photos of caves. Yeah, and other things. Yeah, yeah and other things yeah okay that's the show that's true i believe it is the whole show should we wrap it up yes folks thank you so much for listening to the podcast thank you for liking the show thank you for subscribing to the show thank you for telling a friend about the show thank you for lying to your friends and your wives to get them to listen to the show. I agree. Thank you for choosing us during the divorce proceedings. Yeah, we really do. If your partner says it's us or the podcast,

thank you for choosing us. We appreciate it. Not enough to give you a shout-out on the podcast, but, you know, a little bit. But hopefully you don't lose us in the divorce. That's true. Oh, my God, what if that happened? Can you imagine?

They put some sort of weird nanny software on your computer so you can't listen to the podcast anymore. Your other half gets the podcast. They don't even listen to it. Tragic. They don't even like it. It's like when you hear about people take their pets and they don't even want the pet.

Do you know what I mean? It's more about out of spite. It's like splitting up the beanie babies. Exactly. Yeah. Anyway, thanks. Are they still worth anything? Surely not.

I hope not. Thanks, folks. Thank you for leaving a five-star review, James. You got a five-star review there? Got a couple right here that really helped the show. You can just do it in-app. Well. Said they've been my favorite pod for years.

Not that that, not that it matters. Oh, it matters. Thought I gave you guys five stars years ago when I first found you, when I was a total neophyte. What does that mean? Is that a young person? It's when you get beat up by Neo. Oh, no.

You have a neophyte. Back when you get beat up by Neo. Oh, no. You have a Neo fight. Back when listening with you with my dog Bo. He does that thing with the throat. You know, he flicks you in the throat. Yeah. I love it. It's my favorite thing. While usually playing Xbox One, now I'm sitting here looking at a photo

of my deceased dog. Oh, playing some Xbox Series X listening to you guys. Some things may change, but my enjoyment and quality of this program has not. It's from RD St. Clair. The series of your Xbox may change, but my enjoyment and quality of this program has not. It's from RD St. Clair. The series of your Xbox may change. The live or not alive status of your dog might change. It's in flux. Yeah.

But we will never change or be upgraded in any way. We'll never improve. Our resolution will never improve. If you're expecting a Space Jam 2 style upgrade where we enter the 3D world. Absolutely not. It will not happen. We're two sketches on a napkin. We will never upgrade.

I appreciate that, though. And sorry about your dog. That sucks. But congratulations on the new Xbox. That's something. Yeah. It's not as good as a dog. It's something.

It's true. This is from Chum Chum Fish who says, Real savory podcast. Great five-star podcast. Have listened to so much. I hear their Aussie muttering when I turn it off. That might be something else, but we appreciate that regardless. That's exactly right.

Sometimes when you rate the show, you can do it again if people want to. They're like, I already did. Maybe. Sometimes it disappears or whatever. You know what I mean? Do you think they get rid of the bottom ones, like right at the bottom? I don't know what they do. I don't work at apple.com.au, the local branch.

Yes, that's right. Let's check that while you're doing that. Okay. See if nobody's bought apple.com.au. It's available. I just want to know what it does. It goes to Apple. That's disappointing.

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Yeah, it'll be a different thing. What's out, Mason? Do you know? No. Me neither. Maybe we can catch up on Free Guy and Snake Eyes. If they come out. Yeah.

I don't think we're going to get out of lockdown, to be honest. But that's not to say that we won't get out of lockdown. That's right. We can watch Jungle Cruise again. That's true. We could re-review Jungle Cruise. Do you want to do that? No.

All right then. Great. Thanks for listening, everybody. Grab that gem, you guys. We will see you next week. Goodbye. They're making a sequel to Jungle Cruise. Yeah?

It's called- Jungle Twos? Yes. It's called- I guessos? Yes, it's called... I guess it's made enough money. I don't know. It's an IP, isn't it? More like Jungle Snooze. Whoa.

That's right. No, I enjoyed it. I'm fine enough. Okay. I had a fun time. A decent Pirates of the Caribbean sequel. I agree. Yeah.

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