The Weekly Planet - 400! Spider-Man: No Way Home & Best Comic Character Movies

Episode Date: August 30, 2021

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.It's episode 400 time! And with that comes an episode about the Best Comic Book Characters and what is their best movie. Plus we go through a bunch of other stuff time coded below including the new Spider-Man: No Way Home trailer. Thanks so much for the support over the years, it's been incredible.00:00 The Start07:11 Delays But Don't Dismays08:41 Multiverse of Madness Big Scoops15:05 Spider-Man: No Way Home Trailer29:27 Marvel Halloween Special32:25 The Matrix 4 Footage40:07 SPUMM Update42:03 The Definitive Best Movie for Each Comic Book Character!01:21:46 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:30:27 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrown Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymovies TWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanet TWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGH Amazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode, the 400th episode. Not just another episode. Not just another. I mean, it's another episode. It's simply another episode. It's an arbitrary number in a way. I mean, isn't that like all birthdays, you know what I mean?

Congratulations, you're a year older, nerd. I don't know. Sure. Anyways, we talk movies and comics and TV shows. On the Weekly Planet, which is the name of our podcast. That's right. And we have, sorry, for 400 episodes, my name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. And with me, as always, is my co-host for 398 of those episodes.

That's right. Nick Mason. You know, I don't normally have to jump in as much and correct you, you know, in the intro. Sure. But this time around, I guess I have to. You've got to, yeah. You're slipping. That's what people say out there.

They say you, and to a lesser extent me, are slipping in the production of this podcast. But, folks, thank you so much. It's one thing to record 400 episodes of a podcast. Yeah. It is quite another thing for anyone at all to listen to it. Those are two very distinct things. Very distinct things, yeah.

Yeah, so, I mean, it started as like a very much like a hobby for me in particular and now it's enough for me to live on. I've talked about this before. It started for me as a job. Oh, really? It was a full-time job, yeah, yeah. But then you had to dovetail into tram driving. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, I've been being paid by the government to do this. I'm a professional carer. Oh, right. Very good. Yeah, yeah. The government said you need a pal to hang out with. Otherwise, you'd go mad. They saw your YouTube videos.

Well, that is not incorrect. And they're like, oh, boy. Yeah. This guy could become some sort of national security threat. At least we bring someone in, a specialist. So here I am. But I do appreciate it. And again, I know I've said this a lot,

but it means I get to work from home, you know, I get to be with my family, which has obviously been much more beneficial in these trying of times. Yeah. I mean, you still have the ritual. You still put your hat on and pick up your briefcase at the door and you're like, well, bye, everyone. Maybe I'll never come back.

And then all your family are like, no, why? And then they all start crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you come straight back. I do a lap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The driveway. That's right. And I come back. And then all your family are like, no, why? And then they all start crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you come straight back. I do a lap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The driveway. That's right.

And I come back in. Yeah. That's right. And they go, oh, yay, I guess. Yes, yay. Yeah, the crying's gotten a lot less dramatic. Yeah. Oh, you're back.

All right, cool. Anyways, we really appreciate it. And so as we planned years ago, we planned episode 400. We said we're going to watch all 400 episodes of Water Rats and we're going to rank them. So for the last few years, I've been every spare moment of my day. Just chipping away, as I assume you have also been doing. I'm watching them at a stoplight.

I'll be like, I'm going to squeeze this one in. That's right. Oh, drug traffickers on the bay again? That's right. Better get Gary Sweet involved. I don't think he's in that maybe. He might have shown up as a criminal. I reckon he's in later seasons. He might have shown up as a crib. I reckon he was in later seasons.

Yeah, you might be right. Yeah. But look, if you think Baywatch but nothing sexy about it at all, everybody's got a regular Baywatch. I guess but everyone's got a little bit of a paunch, a real world paunch and like a big billowy water rat police officer shirt. And some of them are Gary Sweet, I'm pretty sure. Do you want me to Google that?

Yes. I think he became like. Because he was in Police Rescue. Maybe that's, I'm pretty sure. Do you want me to Google that? Yes, I think he became like... Because he was in Police Rescue initially. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. But no, that's not to say that Gary Sweet... I think he came in later as like a playing against type, as this very sophisticated boss who was like, now I'm the head of the Water Rats.

Oh, my God. You might be right. Unless I'm thinking of a different series. Steve Beasley was, of course, in both. Of course. Of course. Yeah. I'll beley was, of course, in both. Of course. Of course. Yeah. I've been churning through these episodes, James.

I don't think he is in Water Rats. What am I thinking of? Police Rescue. Literally Police Rescue. I'll try again, though, because that's not his whole filmography. This is the episode, folks. We're going to keep Googling Gary Sweet. Hang on.

He's got his own. No, he played Tom Waters in Skirts in 1990 should have played Tom Waters in Water Rats I agree he should have kicked the door

and been like it's me you all thought why do you think your team was called the Water Rats because of me the founding member

it's a real G.I. Joe situation it's like me John Waters or whatever my name is you said anyways he's kind of like Australia's

Bruce Willis in a way yes he is his hairline has followed the same trajectory as Bruce Willis. Don't you reckon? Yeah, I agree. And now they're pretty much on par with what they do. So there you go.

Anyways, he's a pretty good actor from all accounts. I remember him being pretty good. Yeah. But let's get on with it. Okay. First of all, due to many- First of all, we're not actually doing that. That was a lie.

No, we're going to go through a bunch of comic book characters and pick their number one comic book movie. And then we're going to rank them. Then we're going to go through a bunch of comic book characters and pick their number one comic book movie. And then we're going to rank them. Then we're going to rank all the episodes of Water Rats. We're going to determine what is the best comic book movie of all time and everybody who has a different opinion is wrong and should email in and get mad. That's right.

That's every week anyway. Yes. Like even when we don't mention email in and get mad. The email's actually pretty good, aren't they? They're always very good, I think, yeah. But as always, there's time codes below if you do want to jump around because we've got a bunch of topics. We're going to talk about more delays but not necessarily dismays.

We're going to talk about some maybe the return of the Fox Marvel Universe. Oh, what? Yeah, we're going to talk about the trailer for a couple of trailers this week including King's Man and Spider-Man No Way Home. We're going to talk about a potential Marvel spooky thing that they're going to do, spooky thing. All right. CinemaCon happened.

Spooky Doom. That's right. Where are you, whom? We've got a... It's Spooky Doctor Doom. Yes. And, of course, we've got a Spum update. Oh, Spum is no more.

And if you don't know what that is, we're going to come around to it. Don't even worry. But also, as I was saying before, we have done this second part of our Justice League commentary for the Zack Snyder's extended cut. It is now up at BigSandwich.co. We've completed it, haven't we? It's true, we have, yeah.

The trilogy of Joss Whedon's Justice League and then part one of Zack Snyder's Justice League and then part two of Zack Snyder's Justice League and then part two of Zack Snyder's Justice League. The Holy Trinity. The Holy Trinity. That's what they're referring to. As they say.

How do you feel about the second part? I feel I got more negative than the second part. I think it waned for me definitely because it dovetails more into a lot of the stuff that you've seen before, but I think the ending of how they kill Steppenwolf, I'm like, oh, this is the stuff. So if you're listening to it and you're like, boy, they've really, their energy's flaking.

Look, zip ahead. We're right there with you. Also, fewer nice Nordic sweaters. I agree. In the second half, and that's a big draw for me generally. Exactly. And also, just quickly, I did a Q&A on Instagram with Charlie Claussen from ToeFolk.

That's right. Where we just talked about, we just answered some questions from people. That's on his Instagram. Oh, sorry, ToeFop's Instagram if you do want to check it out, the whole hour there. At ToeFop? At ToeFop.

And the ghost puppet makes an appearance towards the end as well by popular request. Or I just went, I'll pay for this. I should bust it out every now and then. See, what people don't know is if you don't use it once a year. It comes to life. It comes to life and tries to take my family from me. I was going to say you get hit with like a $10,000 tax burden, but I mean, you come to

life and then serve you papers from the ATO. Yeah, that's right. Sometimes we swap bodies and I'm like, oh, no, I'm stuck in the body or whatever. Now I've got to deliver tax notices from the ATO. Anyways, Mason. Yes. Delays but not dismay. This is via Vulture.

So among studio sources reached by Vulture, the short-term outlook for the autumn big films such as Dune and Top Gun Maverick will most likely stay. Sorry, sorry, sorry, what? Dune and Top Gun Maverick. Top Gun. Did you say Maverick. Top Gun. Did you say Maverick?

I don't know what I said. Okay. Will most likely stay on their scheduled release date. Let's go to the tape. Top Gun Maverick. Maverick. Maverick. Although Marvel Studios Eternals could be delayed

if the 24th MCU entry, Shang--Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings underperforms at the box office upon its September 3rd release. Which it very well may. I mean, we probably won't be able to see it. No, even if we were coming out of lockdown this week, which we are not, it would have still been delayed. Claire's going to do a ring around, but it's definitely not going to happen, I would say.

So we won't be talking about that next week. You could ring around the cinema where she used to work. That's going to do a ring around, but it's definitely not going to happen. Okay. I would say. So we won't be talking about that next week. She could ring around the cinema where she used to work. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. Not a bad idea. What do you think about that? Surprising?

No, not at all. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they'll move back to day and date. I don't know. They'll punch the numbers. But if people are like, what do you think of Shang-Chi the character? We recently recorded an episode of the Big Sandwich Classic Comic Book Club where we desperately trawled through

old Shang-Chi comic books to see if we could find a really good one. And we found some of them. Some of them are pretty good. Which I liked and a couple others. That's coming up in a few weeks though if you are interested. Here's something that is potentially exciting for the future of the Fox Marvel Universe.

That little mug that Doctor Strange holds in the trailer? Oh, yeah. That's very good. We will talk about that. We don't have to talk about that in particular, but we can. So Daniel Richtman, you're familiar with him, he's doing big scoops on Twitter. Give him a follow. He's pretty on it.

Where do you get these big scoops? I don't know. Are they all from like the same source? No, I think he's got a few. I don't know how he's doing it, but he's got a few. Crystal ball? You might have a crystal ball. Magic 8 ball? Could have a magic 8 ball. Magic 8 ball.

When's the trailer coming out? TBD. Great. It's not helpful. Yeah. So he said, a Fox Marvel character will battle Scarlet Witch in Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness. He didn't mention who.

He was like, I don't, you know, leave that up to someone else to kind of decide So if you don't want to know This is a time code If you want to skip ahead Oh you have the answer I have the answer Because this is from

At viewer anon Can I guess Sure Magneto You're close Because that's potentially Maybe her father sometimes Oh you are close

But it's not him Doctor Doom No that's less close Oh So So magnetic But not made of metal, this character. Yes.

Okay, right. This person is magnetic. Do they have a magnetic personality? Yeah, I guess so. More in real life. Wolverine. Well, funny you should mention it. So she's going to fight a few people.

They apparently wanted Hugh Jackman at one point, but that's not happening now. Okay. So no. Okay, great. So shut up, basically. I will happening now. Okay. So no. Okay, great. So shut up, basically. I will shut up. Yeah. So what is the answer? That's not a fight either. No. Scarlet Witch and

Wolverine. People always like Wolverine is really powerful, could defeat anybody. Not really. He's got a lot of flaws, both personality wise and powers wise. He's going to fight Charles Xavier. Presumably, they didn't mention who, so it's probably the Patrick Stewart one, I guess. It could be the McAvoy. He's going to fight Charles Xavier. So presumably, they didn't mention who, so it's probably the Patrick Stewart one, I guess.

It could be the McAvoy. He's back, oh boy. Yeah. Maybe it'll be a glossy Patrick Stewart from X-Men 3. Maybe they've got all that data. But they'll have removed the human element, so it's just the weird gloss makeup effect. They're going to have to dig up that old Windows XP computer

to get it off a CD-ROM drive. So you are saying this could be a case of James McAvoy, he's back, oh boy. That's what I'm saying, but I don't know. And also Captain Carter, among others. Oh, I see. So that's interesting. So this isn't necessarily going to be here is the introduction

of the X-Men proper. It's just a case of maybe she's ploughing her way through the multiverse and maybe here's some characters she interacts with. Okay. So it said that maybe she's going to be a villain for this as well, so that would make sense. Here's a question for you.

If she's fighting Captain Carter, Hayley Atwell Captain Carter, or animated Captain Carter, would they dare? I don't think they would. No, I don't think they would, but I mean. I would not like that. Would you like that? What if they would? She shouldn't bring in animated stuff?

What if it was like, what if it was like sort of in shadow? Like she's fighting somebody in the dark. Why would you though? I don't know. She's not like unavailable. That's true. I mean,

she's been doing a lot of mission impossible seven. That's true. Which is still eight, nine. I don't know. One is in the can. Are they filming another one at the moment? Maybe.

I have no idea. I don't know if you have that. I feel like they must've switched over by now. Cause they filming another one at the moment? Maybe. I have no idea. I don't know if you have that there. I feel like they must have switched over by now because they've been filming that for like four years, right? Yes, right. They must be. I read an article recently that said that Tom Cruise in preparation for this most recent Mission Puzzles, he did 13,000 motorcycle jumps. That's not true. I'm just going to say like statistically it's impossible. How many

is that a day? If you did it for a year. 13,000. Let me use my calculator. Okay. So I guess if he did do 13,000 a day. Let's say he did it over a year. So it's 13,000 divided by 365. So no days off.

Yeah. That would mean he did 35 jumps a day. Which I guess is possible. But that's if you're not doing anything else. I mean, but he's always doing other things. That's what I'm saying. And what constitutes a jump? Great question. Because he might have a little ramp in his backyard and he's got a Pee Wee 50 that he's

just fanging around on, which is probably the appropriate size for Tom Cruise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so- I reckon I did 1,000 a day. You did 1,000 a day, didn't you? So you did it over 13 days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I I reckon I did 1,000 a day. You did 1,000 a day, didn't you? So you did it over 13 days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I don't think that's true.

I'm sure it's a lot because he dedicates himself to whatever – Motorcycle jumps. Yeah, and do you remember he was in Rock of Ages and he dedicated himself to being a Rock of Ages man? Yeah. Do you think he retains those skills? I think so, yeah, for a lot of it. Remember when he would go on like James Corden

and he'll reenact all these old movies? Speaking of, have you seen the most hated thing on the internet today? Did they send it to you? Oh, you did. I sent it to a bunch of people. You sent me a very low res version, but I didn't quite understand what it was.

Oh, did that not come through clearly? It came through, but I'm like, I don't know. But this week, James Corden and some other people? Some other people. Some celebrities and singers and so forth. Yeah. Stopped traffic so they could sing Jennifer Lopez's Let's Get Loud dressed as like cartoon rats and such.

Because it's to promote this upcoming Cinderella movie. Ah. It's not a Disney one or something. Or maybe it is. It's on Amazon. Yeah, great. I mean, the other thing is apparently in defense of James Corden. Yes.

Who's just an all-round singing and clapping and what the hell happened kind of guy, they only do it when the lights are red. Okay, so they don't block traffic. They're not like, I've got to get my wife to the hospital. She's giving birth. Let's get loud. Let's get loud.

It's the hip thrust, though, that's like quite unpleasant. You know what? A lot of people hate him and maybe I do, but I enjoyed him in that episode of Doctor Who where he was Doctor Who's roommate or whatever. Do you remember that? Not really. It was like Matt Smith, Doctor Who's roommate.

I don't think I saw that episode. There you go. So there you go. Anyway, let's get- It's got the pretentious title, The Doctor's Roommate. So there you go. He's the most important roommate in the universe. He must be.

He'd have to be. He's the roommate, like the Doctor's the Doctor. He goes all throughout time and space and he just fills that vacancy you really need to cover rent this month. They got rid of the moratorium, did you say, in the US? It's really sad. So if that happened to people listening to this, I'm sorry. I hope that works out.

I hope James Corden visits you. Oh, come on. In a good way. With money. Yeah, with money. Just gives you a fistful of money. Yeah. Let's get left.

This isn't worth it. You need to leave, James Corden. Yeah, I hope everybody's doing all right out there. Yeah. So there you go. Anyways, that's what's happening with those things that we were saying. Yeah. Did you see the new trailer? Oh, sorry. Two, two. Trail there you go. Anyways, that's what's happening with those things that we were saying. Did you see the new trailer?

Oh, sorry, Toot Toot, trailers ahoy. Wait, Toot Toot? No, it's not a train, is it? I mean Toot Toot in the nautical sense, I should say. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. First of all, we had a trailer for The King's Man. I did see that, yeah. It's looking pretty good.

Love it. Rasputin and what's his name? Who does the Scottish accent in it? Oh, whatever, not Scottish. Someone's like, I've had enough of this at some point. Is it Gemma Artisan? Is it? I thought it was like one of the Kingsmen like broke character.

Oh. Because, you know, they put on a voice. They're very posh. And a well-to-do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't remember. Yeah. Ralph Fiennes though, make that happen.

It's looking good. It is looking good. And it's supposed to come out at some point. And it's also, for me, it feels like it is a much simpler storyline and, like, it feels like it's. Laser robot dogs and Elton John doing backflips. Yeah, backflips and, you know, getting everybody addicted to drugs in a big wheel or whatever happened in that last one.

Really hated that last one. Yeah, it was bad. Kind of shocking. And I think maybe this is a deliberate like, you know, cutting back to the bare minimum. And, you know, I always think espionage stuff, you know, it can be a lot more fun if it's stripped down to the basics. You know, that's why a lot of people want to see like a 60s James Bond

again because it's kind of, you know, it's simple and you can't just pick up a phone and solve everybody's problems. That's right. You can't pick up. Unlike the Matrix. You can't pick up a hologram. You can't pick up a hologram. You can't pick up a hologram.

Are you thinking about picking up a hologram? No. Don't even bother. Yeah. So, yeah, that comes out apparently December 22nd. We'll see. We'll see. Won't we?

It's a Fox property, which means they might dump it on Disney Plus. Okay. But we'll see. We'll do the next piece of trailers ahoy. In the meantime, I'm going to quietly watch the Kingsman trailer on my phone. Okay. While you're doing that, I will discuss how the Spider-Man

Far From No Way Home trailer got leaked. Oh, yeah. It was somebody watching it on a phone and somebody else filming themselves watching it on the phone, and the watermark had, one of the watermarks had the guy who worked on it in whatever department. So how did it get, so that was, so it wasn't, oh, okay, so right, so the footage was given to somebody in like a visual effects department.

Yeah, a lot of the visual effects weren't done on it. Yeah, right. So yeah, so that had that person's name on it. Okay, but they didn't leak it. No. But maybe they showed it to somebody. Yeah, right, right. Showed it to somebody.

Well, that's what happened. And then it was watermarked by the people who also leaked it. So I'd imagine that, well, I think that guy got fired. Yeah. Obviously. RIP, we salute you. Yeah. F's in the chat for the guy who.

I mean, that's pretty brutal. Yeah. Because, you know, I'd imagine that he wouldn't have leaked that intentionally. No. Because he'd get fired, which is what happened to him. That'll follow him around for the rest of his life. He'll go from town to town, like old desert town to old desert town. People will come through the saloon doors.

There he is. There he is. It's Leakes McGee. Do you reckon he has other life skills though? Yeah, he's leaky. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So he's got holes in him from being stabbed by Sony and though? Yeah, he's leaky. Wow. Yeah, yeah.

So he's got holes in him from being stabbed by Stoney and Disney? Yeah, yeah. Great. And Stoney's mascot, Stoney. Their mascot and enforcer, Stoney. Big stone hands? Yes. Great.

Regular man. Like a womp from like Super Mario. Yeah, he's like that, yeah. Like a big stone block. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Great. But anyway, so then they released the actual trailer at CinemaCon. If I may. Yes.

Does that mean, so they were pretty much planning on releasing it. It seems that, like. Because Tom Holland said something like. Yeah, I think it was coming anyway. He put it up on Instagram and he's like, it's coming tomorrow, watch out. So it's, yeah, so it's very unfortunate timing for that guy. Yeah. That it got leaked the day.

But the leaked trailer has some stuff that is not in the final trailer, right? Yeah, it's not because it's not the final cut. Yeah, right. I don't know. I can't remember. I did watch it because what am I not going to watch it? I did a trailer breakdown to Mason. Whoa.

But it did, though, top endgame in views and likes. Whoa. So even though it didn't have the Otobus Maguire. Yes. Oh, yeah. And Drew Guffield, you know? Tobey Maguire. Yes. Or Andrew Garfield, you know? Tobey Maguire-man and Andrew Gar-guider-man. Some people have said,

why don't you put Spider-man in front of Andrew Garfield? And I'm like, so Spider-mandrew Gar-guider-man. Perfect. Yeah, absolutely. Actually, I like that. So that's the names we're going with now. Yeah. Tobey Maguire-man, Spider-mandrew Gar-guider-man.

I'm going to have to point to you when we need to say it, though, if that's okay. There might need to be ten or more seconds. I don't have the brain capacity for that. But there's clearly a lot of interest in this movie that's probably maybe coming out this year. Yeah, maybe. But, again, I've got two videos if you do want to check them out.

But what did you think of the story? Oh, no. What did you think of the trailer? I it was? Oh, no. Okay. What did you think of the trailer? I liked it a lot. It looks fun. Gave away a little bit but not too much. Obviously we got, you know, the room.

Seems like the first 20, 30 minutes. Yeah, they're wise in the sense that it mostly seems to be first act stuff. Yeah. And also they have, I don't know, I don't know what the actual plot is going to be, but they've definitely teased this in a way that gets the speculation sort of whirling. Like I know we make a lot of jokes in all our, like, TV recaps, or Disney Plus recaps.

We try not to. Of Mephisto's going to be in this, but people are like. That's not Doctor Strange. Yeah, that's definitely Mephisto, et cetera. I think it's Doctor Strange. He's always mucking about, isn't he? Yeah. That's what he's always saying.

What are you up to, Doctor Strange? I'm mucking about. Because I did watch your trailer breakdown. Thank you. Thank you to Lawrence and Ben who helped immensely with that. Very good. And you did point out that it's probably not – all this trouble probably isn't a result of just Spider-Man going,

hey, Doctor Strange. Yeah. Doc, Strange, Doctor Strange, what are you doing? What are you doing? Like that's not enough hey, Doctor Strange. Yeah. Doc, Strange, Doctor Strange, what are you doing? What are you doing? Like that's not enough to break Doctor Strange's concentration. Maybe having Peter Parker in that room annoying him leads to other Spider-Men coming into the dimensions. You know the same with Into the Spider-Verse,

the reason they got other spider people because he was in the Hadron Collider or whatever? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like that situation. Maybe, yeah. But, yeah, it's a wider thing that's already been happening. Yeah, and it might be connected to, could be connected to Loki. Like they could be happening simultaneously.

Who knows? Had a few disputes in the comments, Mason. Oh, really? Okay. Not in a negative way. Okay, sure. But I was under the impression that all those other parallel dimensions already existed.

Okay. And this guy was just keeping his timeline from branching into them. Okay, sure. And so he would close them off so they don't hit each other. And some other people are suggesting that. They stopped existing. Yes. Like a millennia ago when Kang got in there.

Yeah. And now that Kang's dead, they've started again. Yes. I think maybe that is the case. Yeah, that might. Yeah, okay. Well, I thought it was the other thing. But, you know, who am I to know anything?

Right. So we didn't, obviously we didn't get Tobey Maguire, Spider-Man, Drakar, Gwydaman. But we did get, we got Green Goblin, Pumpkin Bomb. Yep. The Laugh. Yep, there we go. Bit of a gig.

Bit of a gig. And we got Alfred Molina, who's been de-aged significantly. Which makes, again, as I mentioned, does that mean they're de-aging everybody? Is Willem Dafoe going to come over de-aged? How many of these people are going to stay? Does that mean he's going to be the Norman Osborn in this universe? Here's another question for you. Okay.

Do you think that these guys are from the Sam Ra they from the Sam Raimi movie universe or are they from an offshoot of that universe? I think they're from that universe because otherwise, why bother? Just they all look like them and they have similar adventures. I want to see like the actual people. I'm not interested in a guy that looks like him.

That's what you want, but is that, do you think they're actually, I mean, they've had extensive meetings with you. I think there'll also be evidence, either accidentally or not, that points to them not being. Yeah. Because, you know, how these things go. Yeah, yeah.

But, no, I think they'll be them. Okay, right. Specifically. Yeah. But, you know, I don't know everything. Now, what do you think has been changed in this trailer to throw people off the scent? I don't.

I mean, there's that one scene that people speculated where he's in the Iron Spider suit and there's nothing going on behind him. It's like, are there some other Spider-Men there? Something we haven't really talked about is that. We've probably covered it. We don't find it. We've definitely covered it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The crux of the plot of this movie is that Peter wants Doctor Strange to erase everybody's – he doesn't want to erase people's memories of his identity being revealed. He wants to change reality so that nobody ever found out. So that is, in a way, the Spider-Man storyline one more day, the one that everybody – Yes. It's also – Not to say that it will be – No, it's similar. in a way the Spider-Man storyline one more day, the one that everybody likes.

It's also. Not to say that it will be. No, it's similar. But, you know. I mean, Civil War was not the same in the comics. It was nothing like the American Civil War. Nice. We're bringing that back for episode 400.

There we go. We're going to do all the hits. Yes. Who ate all my spaghetti? Nice. Spaghetti? Yeah. Yeah.

Tobey Maguire. There we go. It's back. Spider-Man Nice. Spaghetti? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Tobey Maguire. There we go. It's back. Spider-Man drew Gargoyle Man. Hell yeah. I was going to point to you and be like, do the thing. There you go. I was going to say, I think it was pointed out. I don't have the details here on Twitter.

What do you have? I don't have anything, James. But one of the details somebody pointed out to me on Twitter is that Alfred Molina's Doc Ock is wearing the glasses that he was wearing at the start of Spider-Man 2 that Aunt May broke. I mean, I've got multiple pairs of the same sunglasses. Well, I was going to say, so potentially two options. One is it's a branching timeline from before that happened.

Yeah. Or two, he simply purchased another pair of those glasses. A second pair of sunglasses. Other people have said the fact that his Doctor Octopus arms are glowing red means that the arms have taken over. Yep. Oh, I don't think you mentioned this in the video. I probably covered it.

Yeah, you probably covered it. But Tom Holland and Peter Parker is wearing the same suit. Oh, no, I didn't. I mentioned in the second video. That Tobey Maguire is wearing, I think, in Spider-Man 2 or 3. Maybe both because he's probably only got one suit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not like, oh, he's just wearing a suit.

It's very, very similar. And some people have said, is that actually when he looks in the mirror, he looks like Tobey Maguire? Do they all look the same? Yeah. It's a great question. I don't know. It's a very great question.

I don't know a lot of things, even after 400 episodes. That's right. Well, 398. That's probably why I don't know that much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In two weeks, I'm going to know it all. I'm going to have it all locked down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just like you are now. Yeah. In two episodes, I'm going to open the door and come in, or probably do it over Zoom. And, you know, I'll switch the Zoom on, and you'll Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like you are now. Yeah. In two episodes, I'm going to open the door and come in. I'll probably do it over Zoom. And, you know, I'll switch the Zoom on and you'll be like Neo in the Matrix. Like you'll be all glowing. You'll be all glowing green code. And I'll be like, what?

What? And then you'll leap out of the computer. And I'll do a fly kick into the real world. Yeah. Yeah. So here's the thing, though. I showed Claire this. Okay.

Because she's my gauge of like what does this mean for the normal people, real world stuff. The scum. The muck of the thing, though. I showed Claire this. Okay. Because she's my gauge of like, what does this mean for the normal people, real world stuff? The scum. The muck of the universe. Exactly. The absolute dirtbags out there. The bourgeois. No, that's the middle class, isn't it? Yeah.

The ratbags. Yeah. The real drongos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The drong kicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And she was like, didn't like that at all.

Huh. Didn't get it. Didn't like it. What? Just because it was too much nonsense? Because I'm like, she's like, so, I'm like, who's this? And I'm like, well, that Dr. Octopus is the same one from Spider-Man 2, which was like in 2004.

And she's like, I don't care. Yeah. And I'm like, well, because that means that Tobey Maguire's backblown. She's like, whatever. But I think, though, once they release the trailer with all of the Spider-Men, that's going to make the difference. Because, again, like this is doing well and it is going to do well, but regular people don't really care.

No. That's why you need – if you need a billion-dollar movie, you need everybody. That's true. I've said this before. What about the true fans, James? Don't piss off the true fans. Fuck him, Mason.

You know the 100,000 true fans? Get fucked. They'll make a billion dollars off a movie. Put that in your bloody calculator, mate. How many tickets they'll have to buy? Another thing that could be explained, like there's a simple explanation, is obviously that when Dr. Octopus shows up, he says, hello, Peter. Now, obviously the simplest explanation is he's seen all that footage

of Peter Parker's identity being revealed in the news. He just happened to see it on a paper or a billboard or whatever. But it also leads to the idea that maybe they all do look the same. Yes. Or he's talking to Tobey Maguire. Maybe there's a Tobey Maguire there. Yeah.

Tobey Maguire man. That's right. That's what they call him. Bringing back all the classics. That's right. Yeah. Episode one, we thought of that. Yeah, we did.

Yeah. Anyway, as I also mentioned in one of the videos, maybe both, do Spider-Man 4. Just do it. Just do Spider-Man 4. Just fucking make it. Just knock it out. You made Morbius.

Just make this. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? They made Morbius. Well, you know what? They showed some Morbius footage this week at Cinnamon Con. Oh. Some Morbius. And apparently people were like, looks good. And they chanted, more Morbius. Well, you know what? They showed some Morbius footage this week at Cinnamon Con. Oh. Some Morbius. And apparently people were like, looks good.

And they chanted, more Morbius. Yeah. More Morbius. So they chanted. And they showed the footage and people were like, I forgot. This is what that is. Never mind. They should call it Lesbius.

Nice. Got them. That's what episode one. Yeah, nice. It sure is. Again, though, I think I'd be more excited for Morbius if it wasn't Jared Leto, Leto, whatever his name is. I think if it was Ralph Fiennes. Oh, yeah, okay.

I'd be more excited. He's got a classic Dracula look. I wonder if there's ever been a classic Dracula. He's been Voldemort. He's basically a Dracula. Oh, that's true, yeah. You're right. Sleeps like a bat or whatever or inside a curled up snake.

I don't know what he's up to. But what's bloody Voldemort up to? Great stuff. Great stuff all around. The thing where you think we're talking about the character, but we're actually talking about the actor. Episode one, we're bringing back all the hits. We are throwing shade on Ray Fiennes, who by all accounts.

He's pronounced Ralph Fiennes, actually. You're right. Get out of here. He did start as a Ralph, didn't he? Yeah. He's probably a little Ralphie when he was little. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little Ralphie Fiennes, actually. You're right. Get out of here. He did start as a Ralph, didn't he? Yeah. It's probably a little Ralphie when he was little. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little Ralphie Fiennes.

Oh, it's little Ralphie Fiennes. Here he comes. It's Ralph. Yeah, okay. Anything else on that? Let me think. He's clearly got the magic suit going on. He's got a magic suit.

Black and gold suit, briefly. Dimensional webs, potentially. He got it at that black and gold supermarket. Oh, that they don't have anymore. They don't have black and gold suit briefly. Dimensional webs potentially. He got it at that black and gold supermarket. Oh, that they don't have anymore. They don't have the black and gold supermarket anymore. They don't, yeah. Cool. Yeah, that's right.

Are you more excited, less excited, same excited? I'm more excited, I think, yeah. Wow. You got to do it first, everyone. That's right. Someone's more excited. Someone is more excited. Do you want more Marvel news, though?

Yes. Again, there's multiple videos if you want to check them out mason i will uh the rap says that marvel are going to create a halloween special for next year werewolf by night nice so it's a special yes uh disney man by day yeah mostly man by day why don't they call it man by day it's a great question yeah because we can who can relate to being a werewolf at night next to none of us? No, thank you. But man by day. Some people are like, sometimes I get on the beers

and I become a bloody werewolf by night. But that's not a literal werewolf. No. And that's where I think they're going to lose people. Yeah. Because, you know, you're going to make your characters relatable. That's right. Like Jared Leto, the most relatable man in acting.

A lot of people have either been a man by day or they know a man by day. Sure. So, you know. They might have some people around them. You know what I mean? Yeah. Some family, friends. Yeah, yeah.

Who they see as man by day. That's right. I'm looking forward to that poster. Who would you put in it? Who's the most generic man you can think of? And you can't say, fuck. You can't say, you can't say Ray fights. Oh, okay.

That's a shame. I'm fine. I'll be in the poster, I guess. That's great, though. I wonder if they're going to play it for laughs. Do you think it's going to be like a Marvel one-shot? Yeah, it's like a spooky Simpsons whatever. I mean, it'll be in continuity and all that because it has to be, I guess.

But, yeah yeah that's fine but do you think they're going to do that because the werewolf as a concept do you want to have they mentioned werewolves already let me google it I bet they have in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. probably out of continuity but they probably have mentioned it at some point yeah

but I was going to say do you think would they throw in their first actual werewolf as a laugh I feel like Disney wouldn't be Do you think they'll – would they throw in their first actual werewolf as a laugh? I feel like they – I feel like Disney wouldn't be – I feel – Fenris Wolf doesn't count. No, it doesn't count. I feel like they wouldn't be like – I feel Disney wouldn't allow it because they're like, what if it's big?

Yeah. We want big-time werewolves and everything. We don't want them to be seen as a joke. I see what you're saying. Big-time, serious-time werewolves. Yeah, no, you might be right. Maybe it can be werewolf by night and then Happy Hogan. He can also be there.

And he can be the funny guy. Yeah, okay. I'm not seeing anything confirmed yet. What if it's Captain America werewolf? I've dropped all my silver bullets, Happy Hogan could say. What if it is Captain America werewolf? What if it is? Yeah.

So there are Asgardian wolves that I've seen in general. But no, it doesn't seem to be there's been a werewolf yet. Okay. Or even mentioned. Yeah. Because they've mentioned Draculas. Yeah. But looks like they haven't mentioned those.

Interesting. What else we got here? So that's fun, I think. It is fun, yeah. They did a different spooky character every year. Yeah. And they're doing a Guardians Christmas or a holiday special? Yeah, next year that's coming out as well.

Yeah. What's another holiday that you love? You can do Incredible Hulk Easter special. It's got to find all the eggs. They're in New York City. Smashing? Yeah, he smashes all the buildings. Okay. Fine.

Let's make them all Incredible Hulk focused and he's smashing whatever the thing is. CinemaCon happened. Oh, yeah. Did you see any of this? Because you were in Vegas this week, last week. Yeah, I was in Vegas. But, I mean, I was blitz Oh, yeah. Did you see any of this? Because you were in Vegas this week, last week. Yeah, I was in Vegas, but, I mean, I was blitzed, man. So, you know, I didn't see nothing. You were well off by night in it, I get you.

Man, if you were actually at CinemaCon at Vegas, you wouldn't remember any of it. So anybody says they saw it. So I might have been there. Yeah, so if people are saying they remember anything from CinemaCon at Las Vegas, they were there. We must have had a great time. Yeah, but if you were, you formed a band.

Anyway, yeah. They showed a bunch of footage, which we didn't see, but we're talking Jurassic World 3. This is like for cinema chains. They showed some Matrix 4 stuff. That's the thing I want to talk about the most. So I'm just going to rattle off some other things. Okay, great.

Top Gun Loser, Morbius, The Batman, Dune, or is it Dune? And all of those other things that they showed. So the Batman footage, that's intriguing. That's next, mid-next year, I guess, depending on what they do with it. It was supposed to be this year. But if there were big reveals, we'd know about big reveals, I think. Well, the biggest one, I feel, was The Matrix Resurrections. Yes. Which has a title. The Matrix Resurrections. Yes. Which has a title.

The Matrix Resurrections. That's right. I'm just going to go through some of the stuff that apparently was in this trailer we didn't see because we were so blitzed. We're forming a band. We both want to be the drummer. Neo and Trinity apparently don't remember each other. He's like,

I remember you. And she's like, I remember you. Also, they meet. They meet. Okay. So they're both alive. They're you. And she's like, I don't remember you. Oh, so they meet. They meet. Okay. So they're both alive. They're both. Maybe. I think Trinity could be like a program. Yeah, sure. Because she gets pretty fucking skewed.

Yeah. I mean, a little preview. We've recorded all the audio for our Matrix Caravan of Garbage retrospectives. Yes. And we have talked a little bit about the Matrix Online, which was the subsequent massively multiplayer online role-playing game. Which I think is still canon. Yeah. And, you know, there was some, they didn't sit

on their laurels with the game. It sort of, it made some big changes to continuity. They moved forward a lot. Yeah, they moved forward a lot. And a lot of people are like, well, is this still, you know, the Wachowskis did have a hand in at least some of that. So have they decided to keep it continuity-ed? Yeah.

Hmm. Great. But what do you got you got to be see i didn't i i saw the paragraph and i'm like i don't know he got to like neil patrick harris's or something and i'm like i don't know if i better let's just like i won't spoil it all okay he's a psychologist at neo and apparently neo has taken blue pills because he's like oh he doesn't remember that he's neo so this is this may be, so watching this at this point, my first thought would be, okay,

so maybe the Matrix in its entirety was fictional? No, what I think has happened is they've plugged him back in. Okay. And I don't know this, but because he's the one, and they need a the one for everything to function, they're going to pop up.

They're just like, let's just keep him sedated. Just keep him like, Oh, so he might be in the Matrix. He might be in the source, like the machine. I think he's in the Matrix. Okay, right. I don't know. Because if like a rat in a wheel. Oh, so he might be in the Matrix. He might be in the source, like the machine. I think he's in the Matrix.

Okay, right. But I don't know. Because if he's just in a- Box. Yeah, then that's not as interesting. Morpheus is played by a different person or a guy who looks like Morpheus, which makes me think either Morpheus is dead, which is implied in the game, but then he isn't, I think.

Yeah, yeah. Or that maybe he's injured in the real world or okay or what or it's his son or something so there's a yeah so but he's apparently he's not like lawrence fish or maybe he won the role of the matrix in some sort of like prize like some sort of competition of like a loot box like yeah you got a morpheus i got morpheus oh yeah spent 10 grand to get this morpheus and then he he's Morpheus in Fortnite for 10 minutes and then the timer runs out and he's like, oh, I'm not Morpheus anymore.

There's apparently that dojo fight again with new Morpheus and Neo. There's a moment where he stops a missile midair. You know, he does that. And that's pretty much it. But my fear for this is that it's just the Matrix again. And it's like neo discovering that he's special and oh i can stop bullets and oh i'm training in the dojo dojo whatever i don't want i mean it's cool like action wise but i don't want to see that yeah okay i want to fucking move

forward you know unless how about this maybe that again like maybe this is just first 10 minutes first 20 minutes kind of deal hopefully what about this what if that's just what if what if thing in the dojo is as has been predicted that it that it's it's the matrix is fictional in this world and we're looking at footage of the movie the matrix but it's got neo and new morpheus in it because that's new morpheus he's been cast as morpheus in this movie. Oh, okay. That would be interesting if they did that. But I don't know. That is my real fear. Oh, yeah. That they're going to be like, and I like The Force Awakens,

but just be like, the Matrix is 20 plus years old now. This is a new generation. We can get away with just doing the same thing again. That would be really disappointing. Because as we have sort of discussed and done our best to talk about the underlying themes of The Matrix, there are a lot of them. Yeah. And, you know, the.

We counted five? Yeah, five, four or five. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, discourse about The Matrix has sort of hit an all-time. We hate it. It sucks. Just give us big kicks.

But just the idea of, like, you of like people put so much meaning onto it. But as also we maybe have come to realise is that a lot of people watching even the most recent video have never seen The Matrix because they were not born when it came out, which is wild. Yeah. Because we're young men. What does that even mean if somebody's not born before the thing that we saw came out? Madness. Absolute madness. Yeah. Because we're young men. What does that even mean if somebody's not born before a thing that we saw came out?

Madness. Absolute madness. Yeah. But so maybe they're like discourse about The Matrix and discussing its old themes and we should build on that. Yeah. Would be a good idea if that was our target audience, but we don't think it is anymore. It's fresh-faced teens.

Yeah. Who love loot boxes. So maybe we'll just do The Matrix again. Yes. You know? Well, I was speaking to our friend Hollywood Pete, this was a while back, who thinks that this is the only film that Warner Brothers would let the Wachowskis make at this point.

Yeah, right. Because if you look post The Matrix trilogy, I mean, I was about to say like it's all junk, but I don't think I've seen any of it. I haven't seen all of Speed Racer. I didn't watch Channing Tatum, Dog Boy. I didn't watch fucking Hugh Grant's Asian or whatever. Yes. I didn't watch any of that.

But by all accounts, either people are like, this is underrated or it's really terrible, and none of them made money. Yeah, right. So my fear is they've gone, you can come back and make this if you just do the Matrix again. Yeah, we have certain stipulations. Because those sequels are pretty fucking weird. Oh, yeah.

In a good way, I think. I mean, it's not all hits, like all the ideas, but they really do some stuff that I'm worried they're not going to allow this time for. Yeah, right, right. I think it's only Lana Wachowski, yeah, who's doing this one. Yeah. Yeah.

Only Lily Wachowski. No, I just checked it one. Yeah. Yeah. Only Lily Wachowski. No, I just checked it. Okay, great. And then I closed the tab. But I'm pretty sure I just read Lana. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I think I read an interview with Lily this week. It was like, look, I've gone through a big transition myself

coming off the back of working on Sense8 and a bunch of other stuff. And just to go straight into The Matrix again is just like it's a lot. So I understand why you wouldn't want to do it. Look, I think it's just like it's a lot so i i understand why you wouldn't want to do it yeah look i think at the very least it's going to like look good and there'll be great kicks and punches yes but my i just hope it's the biggest underlining underlying theme there is how big the kicks and punches were but don't you want it to be more than that yes yeah weird and meta yeah yeah that Yeah. That's right. Well, hopefully. Anyways, again. Maybe we can just look at just a really kind of bland, you know,

carbon copy of the Matrix in The Matrix 4. Yeah. And then just put our own interpretation on it. Oh, put it on top. No evidence, you know. I love no evidence. Right? It's been 400 episodes of no evidence.

That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, let's do a spam update. For those people who don't know, Spum is, the Spum date is the Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel movies. Sometimes it's called Spunk.

Because that's its actual formal title. It was. But it's not as funny as Spum. It's still funny though. Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel characters. But now, Sony want to rebrand. They want to take what you know about Spum and twist it on its noodles. How Spummy it is.

That's right. They want it to be called the Sony Spider-Man Universe. So the Smu. Don't like it. I don't like it either. But, I mean, that's the big draw card, isn't it? Like if you go Morbius, people go, eh. But if the poster says or like the banner of it says part of the Spider-Man

Universe, you go, okay, not bad. Not bad at all. What happened to Spum though? Exactly right. I think if you're like this is part of Spum, people are like, good. Good. I'll take ten tickets. Yeah, Spider-Man universe makes sense, right?

Because, you know, people like that. And there's also. It could still just be Spum. I agree. Spider-Man. Yeah. And then Yum also. But you could just. What? You could still just be Spum. I agree. Spiderman. Yeah. And then yum. But they want people to say.

And then you'd be like Spiderman and it's yum. So Spum. But they want people to. Spum. But they want people to pronounce the letters I think. Yeah. It's like with MCU. You don't say the word.

No. The word Spum. So they want people to say SSMU. I assume. Okay. Right. But we won't. It's always going to be Spum to us.

That's right. Spunk. Yeah. If you twist my arm you'll get a Spunk out of me. All assume. Okay, right. But we won't. It's always going to be spum to us. That's right. Spunk. If you twist my arm, you'll get a spunk out of me, all right? Okay, great. The other thing is there were a bunch of rumors this week that Sony are going to delay Venom 2. But apparently an insider has said not the case. Whoa. But let's just wait and see because it might still.

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Now, we needed a big topic to come in on. You know what I mean? If we're doing episode 400, we don't fuck around here. We're like, let's do it properly. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's right. So, we thought, go big and then go home. Then go home. Yeah. We don't fuck around here. We're like, let's do it properly. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So we thought, go big and then go home.

Then go home. Yeah. And what better way to go big than to go through all the major comic book characters that have had solo movies and pick their best movie? Some of these are going to be easy. Yep. Captain Marvel. Yep. Captain Marvel.

Could be Endgame. I guess. We'll talk about it. Solo movies. No, but let. That's Captain Marvel. Could be Endgame. I guess. We'll talk about it. One of her solo movies. No, but let's say, I think it should be movies that they're in. Okay, sure, sure, sure. And I think it also should be, I've got a bunch of stipulations on what I'm throwing Yeah, you would, wouldn't you?

But I think it also should be. I'm freewheeling for this guy if I've learned something in 390 episodes because I've been on 400 episodes and he's only been on 390 episodes. What I've learned is this guy loves his stipulations. I'm like, what about this fun time thing? He's like, not within the rules. I've learned is this guy loves his stipulations. I'm like, what about this fun time thing? He's like, not within the rules.

I've got a rule I just invented. Classic Aussie thinks he's a bloody larrikin but he's a cop is what he is. This guy. That is very Aussie.

A lot of people don't know that. They think a lot of Aussies are larrikins. Just a bunch of fucking nerds, mate. Just rule following nerds. The lot of them.

Bunch of fucking rats, mate rats we're saying it for episodes 400 you're a rat stop listening you rat but um well i'm not even joking either our society is built around fucking shit like that uh just look at just look at a parking sign figure it out you can't do it you can't they're too complicated bureaucracy yeah but i think like you could say like their best mood they might be in a movie that's not the best movie but they're the best version of them in it okay great does that make sense so you might say for example like you said captain marvel the best version of captain marvel we might decide on is in endgame even though even though she's not in it that much,

and even if you think Captain Marvel is better than Endgame, which she does not. Maybe you think she's got her best hair in Endgame. I would never say that. Really? Ridiculous. I think it's good hair, though. It's a wig.

If you're going to do it properly, shave it. That's one of your rules, isn't it? If it's a wig, you're out. Your performance is automatically defunct if it's not your natural hair. So all of Captain America's appearance is basically a wig it's not your natural hair. So all of Captain America's appearance is basically red. Except for the first one. Okay, right. All of Doctor Strange's are wigs.

Wow. Yeah. Wow, this is going to be a short topic. I think also we've got to do mostly modern stuff, I'd say from like Superman the movie up. Yes. And we'll miss some other things. And also like I haven't seen every CW show,

so I'm probably going to skip a bunch of that. Or even every Marvel show. Like I didn't watch, I don't know, Shadow and, not Shadow and Bone, Cloak and Dagger. Did you watch Shadow and Bone? I did watch Shadow and Bone. Did you really? I did, yeah.

Wow. So, yeah, so I think they have to have a solo TV show or movie. Okay. But I do have an exception to that. Oh, my God, this guy. And so it can't just be like best Gambit movie. So you're going to print out all the forms that I have to fill in to do this episode?

That's right. Printing them off right now? Great. Anyway, I thought we'll start big and let's do Superman. Okay. Which encompasses, again, I know animated because that's a whole other thing. Okay, sure. Because I would have said all-star Superman probably.

Yeah, exactly. So we could do Superman 1 to 4 including the Donner Cut. Okay. We could do Superman Returns, Man of Steel, Batman v Superman or Justice League. Okay, right. What do you think is the best representation of Superman out of all of those things?

I think it's maybe Richard Donner Superman too. I think you might be right. Like the Richard Donner Cut. I mean, they're not all going to be as cut and dried. Yeah. And it also depends on do you like Superman fighting a big robot computer? I don't. For example.

Or just a woman turns into a horrible robot and he's got to fight the horrible robot and gives you nightmares as a child. Maybe that's your criteria for a good Superman. Maybe you see it again as an adult. You're like, let's see if this robot, let's see if I'm scared of it now. Oh, I am still. Boy, this list is very long. We can speed through these.

Yeah, definitely. But look, I think Justice League Joss Whedon. Yes. Justice Whig. Very super bad that i liked okay sure yeah especially at the end yeah and i think the same could be said of the justice league the more recent one him stopping steppenwolf at the end is a real higher freeze yeah definitely yeah but you know that's not to discount superman returns which by all accounts was directed by a pedophile. Let's move forward. Okay, and also if you were including TV series, obviously it would be Tyler Hoechlin in Superman.

Yeah, that was, oh yeah. It's probably that. But we're not including TV series. No, we can. Because some of these people, like Daredevil has a TV series, which I think we should include. All right. It probably is Superman and Lois said, right?

I mean, the Richard Donner cut of Superman 2, like it does really encompass over like two hours like the epitome of Superman. And it also changes like he's less mean than he is in the other. I mean, he still beats up that dude in the diner. That's true. And I think also you'd have to look at that movie from the era that it was made.

Like if you modernized it, you kept everything in it, but you modernized it, it would probably easily be the best one. Yeah. I would imagine. Is that a rule? I don't know, man. You're the rules master. You put on your rules master hat and cloak.

You're holding your rule scepter. I have to. Yeah. Anyway, we've got to move forward. Okay, Superman loves. Yeah. Captain America. So we've got Winter Soldier, First Avenger, Civil War,

Avengers 1 to 4. I guess he's in Thor 2 sort of and maybe some other things. Yeah. I think the First Avenger is the best representation of that character. Okay. Because you get him from origin to mostly fully formed. Yeah. It's more of a character study. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's – I think probably Winter Soldier is a fully formed. Yeah. It's more of a character study.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's, I don't think it's, I think probably Winter Soldier is a better movie. Yeah. But what do you think? Yeah. But he is more of a, like a special ops guy in Winter Soldier.

So. Yeah. But you know, like you could easily say that Endgame where he fights Thanos is, I mean, that's really cool. It's very cool. But is it a character study? Are we giving people style points a la Space Jam 2? I should also point out that the first Avenger is the only one

he doesn't wear a wig in. Oh, maybe Winter Soldier? I'd have to go back. And we will right now. That's right. So would you disagree with that? Because we don't have to decide on the same one. No, that's true.

But for simplicity's sake and for getting through this list, which again is a- It's an enormous list. It's a very long list. And it's probably not even everything. Yeah, I's true. But for simplicity's sake and for getting through this list, which again is a. It's an enormous list. It's a very long list. And it's probably not even everything. I'm going to say, yeah, I'm going to say Captain America. And it also, it kind of. Look at those movies though.

I mean, what a run. Yeah. Like really. Yeah. I think, I mean, this, this is, this for me would be the least, this character, this is the most difficult I think to choose of like, I wouldn't go, oh no, but most of them are a dud, so I guess it's this one by default.

Yeah. Kind of thing. Exactly. You're not wrong. But I do like him in the modern day. That's the thing. That is the thing. He comes into his own in First Avengers.

Yeah. You know what I mean? That's right. I'm going to say Winter Soldier because he kicks that man off a boat and that man's dead. He kicks that man so hard. Probably dead. You'd be like

yeah but he can probably swim or whatever he kicked his sternum in so he probably drowned he probably was like even he might have been dead before he had the water suffocated just for the kicked in sternum and then the drowning was irrelevant because he's already dead just a good it was a good big kick it was the greatest kick so i guess we'll never decide on that one but let's say it's sure of those two. Yeah. And you've got other opinions. That's fine.

Maybe somebody can put a poll up in the great mates group. I've got one more opinion. What's that? I'm saving it. All right, let's do it. Daredevil. The TV series. Well, the TV series. Oh, here we go.

The Affleck movie. Yes. Spider-Man No Way Home when he's going to be Peter Parker's lawyer. He's going to be Peter Parker's lawyer. Definitively. That deleted scene from the movie Elektra. I guess we can also include Elektra in this because Elektra's in. And she has a solo movie.

For me, it's season one. Okay. And I didn't finish three, though, but three's quite good, isn't it? They're all good. Of the Netflix shows, I would say consistently the best series through all three seasons. Jessica Jones, season one, probably the best overall. Yeah.

I can't argue with that. Yeah, oh, really? Okay. I didn't finish season two. I still like The Defenders. I won't. Oh, he's in The Defenders, obviously. Yeah, but you're going to put that up there?

No. Above Ben Affleck's Daredevil? Yes. All right. Yeah. I'm not going to dispute that. Right. What have we got next on our list of?

Hulk. I love Daredevil. Give us a fucking Daredevil movie. Right. Make him swing around more? Hulk. I love Daredevil. Give us a fucking Daredevil movie. Right? Make him swing around more. Yeah. I love Daredevil. The best.

Hulk. Kick some sternums in. Yeah. Smash some sternums against some hallway walls. Charlie Cox is really good as well. I agree, yeah. What a great piece of casting. What's he done since then?

Just mostly that. He was in Downton Abbey. He was in the movie Stardust. That was prior, though. So? Good point. Good point. You're right. He was in Downton Abbey. He was in the movie Stardust. That was prior, though. So? Good point. Good point. What's your point?

No point. Let me check. Do we have time for this? Yeah, we've got time. Charlie Cox. Also, we can always split this. We can always make this episode 401 also. What I love about Charlie Cox is as well we're roughly the same age.

He's slightly older. But that's okay. Yeah. He was in Kin. He was in The Knot. I recently looked up, you know, the same age. You're slightly older. But that's okay. Yeah. It was in Kin. It was in The Knot. I recently looked up, you know, the band The Black Keys. One of them's like a couple of years older than me and he's been married three times.

Wow. And I'm like, how many times have you been married? Zero times. I was going to say, because if you didn't invite me to your three weddings, I would be very upset. But I'm like, when did you? By the third, I wouldn't come. Yeah, that's fair.

I'm not taking the night off. Yeah, and that's when the real party starts, Jack. The other two were just a ruse. You'll make me MC. That's right. I don't know what I'll do. I retire. But I'm like, how do you have time?

Do you get married three times and also be in a band for like 19 years? Great question. Right? I mean, you know, take the day. I guess you take a day. Take the day and you'd be rich and you'd have somebody organise your wedding for you. What have we got next? The Hulk.

Wow. Ang Lee's Hulk. So, yeah, Ang Lee's Hulk. I guess the show. Are you including what-if appearances? No. Wow. I mean, we can.

Are you including Lou Ferrigno's The Hulk? No. What? Okay, fine, that's included. Is it the best? No. Absolutely it's not. You could say the same for Thor.

He was in that. Daredevil was in it as well. So we've got The Incredible Hulk, Hulk 2003, Avengers, all the Marvel movies. All the Marvel movies. All the Avengers movies and also Ragnarok. What's the best version? I think it might be Avengers.

When I first saw that, I'm like, very good. Yeah. Like, they got, the look is so good, and it looks so real. And I think it looks better than it does in Ultron somehow. Okay, yeah. I think it's just perfect. I thought you were talking about Ruffalo. He's got a perfect look, that guy.

He does have a perfect look. He does. And he's like regular man fit. Yeah, he is. You know what I mean? I totally get that. He's got a certain vibe. He's like, that's what a grown-up man should look like. He's laughably

normal looking. Yeah, right? It's embarrassing. I don't know why they made him take his shirt off in Age of Ultron. Because of the hairy chest. Maybe. But no, I think what Joss Whedon did, whether or not he be a bad bloke, is that he somehow

worked in all of the Hulk storyline. Yes. And even though we'd already seen some of it into that movie and it's very good. Yeah. He did really good work. Are you noting these down or are you? Do I have to? No, I mean if we're going to determine what the best one is.

Are we doing that at the end, are we? Yeah, just one. We're just going to pick one. All right. I can do that off the top of my head. Okay, great. I'll just say The Dark Knight because it will stop people complaining. It'll stop the most amount of people complaining about me.

Captain Marvel. So we had Captain Marvel, but she's in Infinity War in post-credits. Wait, is she? Yeah. She comes at the end. No, she comes at the end. Oh, what's the movie she comes in at the end of? And Thor's there.

And she's like, what's up? Oh, yeah. Maybe it's not Infinity War. I don't think it is Infinity War because at the end of Infinity War, everybody turns to dust. You're yeah. Maybe it's not Infinity War. I don't think it is Infinity War because at the end of Infinity War, everybody turns to dust. You're right. Is it Ant-Man? Yeah, it might be Ant-Man.

Okay, but are we including Captain Marvel? No, maybe. You know what? I think it's at the end of Captain Marvel. Yeah, it is, yeah. So they're separate movies, are they, James, according to your rules? Captain Marvel in the end of Captain Marvel? Shut up, Mason.

Are we including Captain Marvel in pager form only? Look, I think Endgame is a better movie. Yep. But they clearly hadn't worked that character out yet and it was clearly filmed before they did Captain Marvel. And she's not really a character in it. It's like you don't really know anything about her other than she's from space and she punches Thanos in the head,

which is cool, but I don't think it's a great representation of that character. No, that's true, yeah. She's more fun in her own movie, shockingly, as opposed to the five minutes she's in. That is shocking. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, I'm going to give the award to Captain Marvel

in the form of Barcode Battler. Okay. Which is one of those little things. Do you remember Barcode Battler? What's that? It was like a Pokemon thing. Oh. You scan barcodes.

Okay. You've got a monster. Well, I'm going to give it to the Pokemon thing. Oh. You scanned barcodes. Okay. You got a monster. Well, I'm going to give it to the Dark Knight. Okay. For Heath Ledger's performance alone. Terrific. It's great in that. Deadpool.

So we've got X-Men, Origins, Wolverine, Origin, Year Zero. We've got then Deadpool, then Deadpool 2. And I think it's very clearly Deadpool too because they're just like whatever now. Yeah, that's true. We can do whatever. Most of Deadpool 1 is set on a highway. It sure is, yeah. With flashbacks.

I like it. I don't think it's amazing. It's pretty good considering the budget though. Okay, but are you also including all the various ads that Deadpool is in for whatever reason? Do I have to? Yeah. Then yes, I include that ad for free guy or whatever.

Every ad that he's on in Ryan Reynolds' YouTube channel, every time he pops in and he's playing video games with Korg or whatever. What if he shows up in a Marvel Future Fight ad as I'm scrolling through Reddit or whatever? That counts, yeah. Okay, then that's my favourite ad to block. What about him in Marvel vs. Capcom 3? I've never played that game.

No, I think I have that game. I don't know. Maybe on PS Vita. Deadpool 2. Yeah. They got to use a bunch of other characters as well. Yeah. And you literally see his balls.

That must count for something because that's what he's about. Yeah. Ghost Rider. Oh, my goodness, yes. Now, we could also include Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in this. Yeah, it's Robbie Reyes. But it's- James, are we including all different iterations of the character?

Yeah, whatever. Same character? Does it matter? Not really, no. How many other? I mean, because I guess... There's two. There's Johnny Blaze and there's Robbie Reyes.

Yes. Who has a car. Yeah. Got to factor that in. Oh, and there's also Easy Rider, the spooky guy, the guy who rides a horse. Oh, yeah. Is that...

Easy Rider guy. Peter Fonda. No, Peter Fonda's in it, but I think it's... The spooky guy. The guy who rides a horse. Oh, yeah. Is that... Easy Rider guy. Peter Fonda. No, Peter Fonda's in it, but I think it's... The other guy. Sam Elliott. Oh, yeah, it is too, yeah. Is it? Yeah.

Yeah, so there's Ghost Rider. Yes. And then there's Ghost Rider 2, Spirit of Vengeance, a movie I haven't seen. Yep. And then there's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., which is the best representation? I suspect it might be Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.,

but I don't know. Good fire effect in that, though. It is, yeah. You like Spirit of Vengeance, don't you? I do like Spirit of S.H.I.E.L.D. But I don't know. Good fire effect in that. It is, yeah. You like Spirit of Vengeance, don't you? I do like Spirit of Vengeance, yeah. I mean, it's certainly not the first one. No. I mean, it was filmed in Melbourne.

Does that sway you? No. I mean, away from it, sure. Because you recognise things and it's distracting? Yeah. I'm like, wow, Crack Casino's over there. Wow. Melbourne Cemetery.

I don't know. I've only really seen the movie, the first-A-Cito's over there. Wow. Melbourne Cemetery. I don't know. I've only really seen the movie. Okay. The first one. So it's really your call. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go with Spirit of Vengeance. All right.

I'm going to go with The Dark Knight. Yeah, good. Heath Ledger's performance alone. Yeah, nice. Okay, Black Widow. A lot of appearances. Okay. Yeah.

So what have we got? We've got Age of Ultron. Yes. We've got Avengers. We've got Iron Man 2. That's right. We We've got Avengers. We've got Iron Man 2. That's right. We've got other Avengers. We've got Last Avengers.

Yep. And we've got Black Widow and maybe another thing in there. Yeah. Where are you at? Well, I guess my question is what's the core of the character? Yep. And what do you think the core of a Black Widow is and how does she display it?

Having her uterus removed, isn't it? Oh, yes. Age of Ultron. Oh, boy. I think. I think it's her solo movie. You reckon? Yeah. She does the most and you get her backstory a little bit proper.

She's got little friends and you can find out more about the Red Room. But they only have a hint at stuff in the other. She is doing stuff in Eastern Europe. That's fun. Yeah. I would say for me it's split between that and maybe Iron Man 2. Really? Yeah.

I don't think that's very good. It's a very strong showing of her in that movie. You know, she's going in. The hallway fight? The hallway fight. I think she's really underused and not that interesting. I think a lot of these characters, you know, they shine or do not shine based on their hallway fight.

Daredevil, Primo. I agree. Black Widow, also very good. Remember when all the Black Widows are w based on their hallway fight. Daredevil. Primo. I agree. Black Widow, also very good. Remember when all the Black Widows were wailing on her? Yeah. It was good. Yeah. I'm going to go with Black Widow solo movie.

Okay, fine. But you can say hallway fight. No. Actually, I'm going to do The Dark Knight. Okay, great. For Heath Ledger's performance alone. I was going to say he's Oscar nominated. He was.

He won that Oscar. Good for him. Wolverine. Yes. It's just all the X-Men movies with the exception of the Apocalypse. First class. Was he in Apocalypse? No.

No, he was. Was he? They found him in a cell. Remember when he ran into the woods? Oh, yeah, that's right. He wasn't in Dark Phoenix. Yes. But he might have been, but I'm pretty confident he wasn't. dark phoenix yes but he might have been but i'm

pretty confident he wasn't and he's barely in first class but he's in it yeah i mean it's logan yeah oh yeah undoubtedly yeah but do you get do you does it can you have logan without all the other movies i don't know if that's important to these rules that you've established i mean we could add that rule i think we should add that rule. Okay. I'd still pick Logan. I think if I only ever saw that movie, it would still be good. Yeah. I think it also, like if you'd never seen an X-Men movie before, I think it would stand up.

That's what I mean, yeah. I think you would go, oh, I get this. He's a guy and maybe he used to be a superhero and now things have, the world has fallen apart. And also that might be set in like another dimension or something anyway. Yeah, that's true. Because he did some of the adventures or he didn't, as he mentioned.

Or maybe, James, it was all a dream and he died in the opening scene and the whole thing is just his dying, his brain. It's my favorite kind of movie. It's great. You can do it with any movie. Repo Men? Yeah. I mean, you don't need to do it in that movie because that's what

actually happens in that movie. Yeah, nice. What about, could you do it in the movie next? With Nicolas Cage? Yeah. You don't need to do it because that's what actually happens in that movie. Yeah, nice. What about in the, could you do it in the movie Next? With Nicolas Cage. Yeah. You don't need to do it because that's what actually happens in that movie. Nice. Nice.

It's like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Thor. Gosh, this is a good question. Thanks. Because. Remember he has PTSD in Endgame?

It was pretty good. It was pretty good, yeah. But he has. But Ragnarok. But he has blonde eyebrows in the first one. I like first Thor. Yeah, it's good. It was pretty good, yeah. But he has blonde eyebrows in the first one. I like First Thor. Yeah, it's good. It's a good showing.

He learns a lesson pretty quickly. He's like 1,000 years old. And, you know, I do think Ragnarok is a good, enjoyable movie. Yeah, you would say that. But also so much of that is the world and the insanity of that world, I think. But also he's good in that. Yes, he is.

Yeah. And what do you say even to that? There's a lot of character development in that movie. It's true and everybody, the world explodes and whatever. That's true. Yeah. But is he too jokey? He's like, who cares?

Does that bother you? Do you want him more stoic? Not necessarily. I think they've really lent on him being like in a lot of cases he's the comic relief character I think you kind of need to because without that he's not very interesting Yep, agreed

So then it's his funniest role I think is his best role I would say almost certainly But again, good in Endgame He's good in Infinity War as well Yeah, I'd say probably Ragnarok. And, you know, he develops his relationship with his brother and whatever. That's true, yeah.

He finally becomes king for a minute. Yep. Gets his eye pulled out. I was going to say his eyebrow pulled out. Okay, now I've been. My eyebrow. I've included this on a technicality. Oh, here we go.

Nick Fury, because technically he did get a solo movie. That made for TV. Yes. With David Hasselhoff. David Hasselhoff movie. So he sneaks in on a technicality. Wow. But I think it's Winter Soldier because he does a classic Nick Fury fakeout.

Yes. He does an action sequence. That's it. Yeah. And that's what he's known for. Yeah, exactly because otherwise it's just a series of him. Showing up in a bar. Showing up in a darkened hallway and being like, I've got some news for you. Yeah. And that's what he's known for. Yeah, exactly. Cause otherwise it's just a series of him showing up, showing up in a darkened hallway and being like,

I've got some news for you. Yeah. Is it bad news? Yeah. Yeah. It's really bad news actually. Yeah. And you want to be in the Avengers too bad. You're not suitable for the Avengers.

So yeah, it is, it is winter solstice. Easy done. Give another action sequence. I know he's old, but he's getting, he's pasted his face on a,

no, they did in, oh no, they pasted a younger face on him in, in Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel. A know he's old, but he's getting his face on a... No, they did in... Oh, no. They pasted a younger face on him in... Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel. A movie he is in. What about Peggy Carter? Because she got a solo movie. Two seasons.

That would probably be the best representation of that character, though, right? I think so, yeah. I only watched the first season, but I really liked it. I remember really liking it. What about you? I also very much liked it. I mean, she's great in the first Aven, but I really liked it. I remember really liking it. What about you? I also very much liked it. I mean, she's great in the first Avengers, you know, just as a very focused encapsulation of that character. That is true.

But I think also in Captain Peggy Carter, whatever the show is called, in Captain Peggy Carter, you get to see her without Steve Rogers and the grief and growing shield and all of these other things, which I think, again, like the Winter Soul, I mean the other one is I would watch, I would more frequently watch that. Because it's shorter. Because it's shorter and, you know,

it's something I'd be more interested in revisiting. But I think the other one is better for her character. That's true. Until Steve Rogers comes back in time and kills her husband or whatever he does. That would be, you know what, I know there's a lot of debate and we've talked about it endlessly and the idea, and I prefer the idea that Steve Rogers went back in time

and he became the husband that she's talked about and she can't remember that because. Disagree. And you think, and other people think that he went to another, he went to a parallel universe, which I guess, but then I guess you could say, well, maybe another Steve Rogers jumped into this universe. But also I think it would be funny if the Russo brothers

or the writers, they went in all meeting. They're like, we've got to sort this thing out. And they came out of it and they're like, okay, canonically Steve Rogers went back in time in the same universe and he murdered Peggy Carter's husband and he took over. And he wore his face. Yeah, he wore his face for 30 years. There we go.

Now, we've done a lot of Marvel stuff. Yeah. I think that's mostly about, yeah, that's true. But let's do a Wonder Woman. Wow. I mean, it's first Wonder Woman. It is. And some of Zack Snyder's Justice League.

But it's more first Wonder Woman. Yes. By quite a long way. Mm-hmm. And that's it. That's it. I mean, you know, the By quite a long way. Mm-hmm. And that's it. That's it. I mean, you know, the character grows and she learns about war or whatever and she has a tragic loss.

She was like, I thought war rocks. Yeah. But actually war sucks. War sucks, I'm writing on this wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Graffiti on this wall. And we didn't have spray cans back then, so it was really difficult. How did she do it?

Just a big, big bucket of tar or whatever they had. And a chisel. That's how she learned her skills. Oh, okay. With a hammer and chisel. You're probably right. War sucks. So I think that's pretty clear cut.

But, you know, good in other things. Yeah. But I think she's always good, even if, say, the movie isn't good. I think she's all that. Sure. Have you watched He's All That? No, but I do know that Rachel Leigh Cook is in it. But, yeah, we talked about this, but is it the same character? I don't know. I think She's All That. Sure. Have you watched He's All That? No, but I do know that Rachel Lee Cook is in it. Yeah, we talked about this, but is it the same character?

I don't know. Let's do it. Please look it up. He's All That cast. We've got to determine which Rachel Lee She's All That performance is the best one. Probably the first one. Also, this is another of our classic bits.

What's that? We're bringing it back for episode 400, a long pause while we look something up. She plays Anna Sawyer. Here we go. We're so close. And that's in the original. No, in the new one.

In the new one. Okay, great. And in the original she plays Lainey Boggs. Oh, yeah. Damn. What do you even say to that? I don't know. I can't believe they didn't make it a sequel.

And as I said, she needs to turn to her daughter and go, are you he's all that in this poor boy? I can't believe that her character had a sillier name in the real movie than in Not Another Teen Movie, the parody. What was that? Her name's Lainey Briggs. Oh, yeah. In Not Another Teen Movie.

That's nuts. Not her character, but the character that's being parodied. But she's Lainey Boggs. Now, people are going to email in and say Chris Evans is in that movie. What do you say to that? He is. Yes. He's in that movie.

Yeah. Just to clarify, not She's All That, the parody film, not another teen movie because we'd get an email about that also. That's right. Because it was Freddie Prinze, the real version. Anyway. Okay, so we're done with DC movies. Black Panther.

Black Panther. I mean it's first Black Panther, but Infinity War. Yes. He gets the Wakandans together and they have a little battle on the field and that. But it's still first Black Panther, right? Yes, it is. Because it's a solo movie. Yeah.

Not always the case. That's true. But it is in this time. Yeah. I've written here The Crow and I've also written here in brackets, name all four. The names of the movies or the actors? No, the movies. The Crow?

Yep. The Crow City of Angels? I thought there was only three, but there's four. There's four, okay. The Crow Edward Furlong's in this one? Yep, that's one. And Crow. Yep.

Here we go. Goes bananas. The Crow goes tropical. That's right. No, so it's The Crow, Crow City The crow goes tropical. That's right. So it's the crow, the crow city of angels in 96. In 2000, there was the crow salvation. In 2005, there was the crow wicked prayer. I remember wicked prayer.

And between 1998 and 1999, there was a television series called The Crow Stairway to Heaven starring Mark Dacascos. Yes. I just thought he was the crow in one of those movies anyway, but I guess that's where I've gone wrong. Anyway, it's the first crow. The first of the crow. Yeah.

I mean, I haven't seen any of the other ones. I've seen two. Number two, City of Angels. Yeah, like in 97 or whenever it came out, I watched it on TV. It came out in 96, but I wouldn't have seen it in 96. You know how time works. Yeah, you know, what I'm seeing here is you've made up a lie and then you've just tried to like.

I've seen it. He was a rock and roll boy. I saw it on TV. I didn't see it in cinemas. Obviously it came out earlier. It was in my neighbor's house when he was babysitting me. He was like, you're allowed to watch this? And I'm like, I don't know.

What was the neighbor's name? Andrew. Full name. No. Address, current address. I don't actually know his current address. Oh, name. No. Same as now. Address, current address. I don't actually know his current address. Oh, okay. Wow.

Because he went on the run after showing me the Christy of Ages. Because it was probably MA 15 plus and you were underage. Anyway, next up I've just put the X-Men together because there are no other X-Men solo movies other than Wolverine. That's true. Or there is, but I don't remember. Yeah. It's first class for me.

Okay. But what is it for you? Let me think. Or is it Logan? You can say Logan again. No, I think it might be, I was going to say X-Men 1. Yeah, fair enough. Pedophile thing.

I was going to say it was directed by a pedophile. Does that sway you? A little bit. I think the first class is the only reason those movies kept going. Oh, yeah, definitely. Because they just nailed a good one and then they coasted. Yeah. In the X-Men movie.

Ah, Days of Future Past is all right, I guess. What about Days of Future Past? It's directed by a pedophile, allegedly. A different one or the same one? Same one. Same one. But he might have been erratic and not on set or something or for the next one.

Yeah, right. What about Dark Phoenix? No, that's a bad movie. What about Apocalypse? Bad movie. What about Dark Phoenix? No, that's a bad movie. What about Apocalypse? Bad movie. What about X-Men 3, The Last Stand? Pretty bad if I remember correctly. Kelsey Grammer. That's true.

Might be the first one. I mean, Patrick Stewart and McKellen are in it. Not even X2? Cruise Control. Yeah. X-Men 2. Ghost Bananas. Tropical. They all go tropical. X-Men go tropical. What would be the first one? All right, because people consider X-Men 2 like the pinnacle of those first ones. No, I know they do, but also.

You're introducing guys, though, aren't you? Yeah, that's true. I'm liking, you know, that first meeting between Professor X and Magneto. Good stuff. Chef's kiss. You're right. Yeah. Okay.

Petrifier wins again. I'm not happy about it. I'm not either. What about The Flash? I've heard of him. He's got a TV show. He's got two TV shows. Does he?

The one with Dawson's dad. Shit, he does too. Fuck you, right? Yeah. And that was certainly the most, that might be the best suit, honestly. Yeah. It's huge and ridiculous. I mean, it's huge and ridiculous.

But what does that say about the character? He's huge and ridiculous. I mean, it's huge and ridiculous. Yeah. But what does that say about the character? He's huge and ridiculous. But he's not supposed to be bigger than everybody else. He's kind of pretty big. Yeah, but he's not bigger than like Batman. He's pretty big. Is he? Yeah. Why isn't he live? Like a snake. I like it. I think he's too live. I think the other versions are too live. I think Grant Gustin and Ezra Miller are too light. You think they should hit the protein shakes? I think they should hit the protein shakes and whatever steroids and chemical supplements they need, legal or illegal. Okay.

Yeah, I think they should have too much. Their head gets too big. Make it big. They need big heads. Yeah, okay. Big block heads. Yes. All right.

They've got to look like Minecraft characters. Is it Batman v Superman, the footage? I mean, it's the Flash show, right? Is it Suicide Squad, the footage? I think it might be. Fuck, yeah, that's a good one. I think it is. You're right. Thus far, I think it is.

I mean, because he stops a popular villain. Yep, it's one of his signature villains. One of his signature villains. He doesn't muck it up. No, he's crackling electric. I'm going to agree with you on that. It's probably the Flash TV series, but I haven't seen enough of it. Yeah.

So I couldn't tell you. That's taken a bit of a dip, I'll be honest with you. I wouldn't. I think the first couple of seasons are very strong. Yeah, I remember really liking them. Yeah. What about Catwoman? Solo movie.

Yes. Anne Hathaway, Michelle Pfeiffer said to marry Bruce Wayne in a picture in the Flash universe. That's right. So you've got to pick your poison there. I think it Michelle Pfeiffer, said to marry Bruce Wayne in a picture in the Flash universe. That's right. So you've got to pick your poison there. I think it's Pfeiffer. You don't think it's Hathaway? I think Pfeiffer is probably more iconic,

and it's the one people know. So I'm probably going to have to agree with you on that. I honestly think that the – I reckon it will be Zoe Kravitz by the end of that new Batman. I think the Hathaway suit is pretty good. Yeah. I think that feels more comic book accurate to me than the Burton version.

Okay. The Burton-Pfeiffer version. But I think as a, and, you know, obviously. But it's not very cat-like, is it? No, and the origin is. What is the origin? She's a street urchin? Yeah, kind of, yeah.

But she's a harried secretary in Batman Returns. Oh, yeah. It is Hathaway. I like Hathaway in that. Yeah, of, yeah. But she's a harried secretary in Batman Returns. Oh, yeah. It is Hathaway. I like Hathaway in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it's probably more like I don't think the Batman Returns one is like accurate or and it's weird and doesn't make any sense, but it's still probably that.

Agreed. Anyway, Fantastic Four. Pick your poison. It's Silver Surfer. It is, yeah. Yeah. Because they've settled in. The actors have settled in.

That's the only one that's fine. Yeah, and it's not good, but there's, you know, a little bit of cosmic fun. Yep. They're having a great time. Yep. Invisible Woman covers up a zit on her face with invisibility powers. Very good.

Why doesn't it just drill an invisible hole through her head? Yeah, it's very odd, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also never comes back continuity-wise. There should have been a scene. Held it the whole time. Yeah, maybe she held it the whole time. Yeah, because you should have been able to see the flesh underneath.

Anyway, whatever. Yeah. Then we've got Kingsman. First Kingsman. Yes. I'm thinking Kingsman sucks. Sucks big time. No competition.

Then we've got Wanda slash Vision because they're both hanging out together. Okay, yeah. But what is it? First Kingsman. Yes. Playing Kingsman sucks. Sucks big time. No competition. Then we've got Wanda slash Vision because they're both hanging out together. Okay, yeah. But what is it? Oh, that's their couple name. Yes. Wanda Vision. That's right. I mean, it's the show, I guess.

Yep, also that. Even though Vision technically isn't really in that. Yeah. He's more imaginary and a dead-eyed robot or whatever happens in that. Remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, they're good in the other things. I agree.

I mean, they only really have, like, decent chemistry in... Infinity War. Yes. Remember, they go to Scotland. Yeah, they go to Scotland. And then he gets the chip pulled out of his head or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's...

It's the series, yeah, obviously. I mean, that's leagues ahead of anything else they've done. But I think there's some other good stuff in there. Ant-Man. Is it Civil War because he goes big? I think it is. It is, yeah. I mean, I like the Ant-Man movies enough and he's cool in Endgame.

He punches a big space whale out of the air. That's true. And that's very on brand. Yeah. But that bit where he goes big in Civil War? Yeah. Can't tell that. I mean, it's not very Ant-like though is it that's a good point but it is just a delight but he also shrinks he does both it's true but he does it does speak to his character like and he's you know he's like

i'm trying a new thing here yeah that was that was great what's the next thing you can try um wide oh yeah that's right just go really wide yeah uh but yeah no that's and. You can just go really wide. Yeah. But, yeah, no, that's – and I, you know, look, I very quietly in a civilised manner did cheer in the cinema when he went big. What did you say to yourself? I'm like, I know what he's going to do. Did you actually cheer? Yeah. Yay.

I'm like, I think he's going to go big. He's going to do it. I can't remember who was next to me in the theatre, but I'm like, I know he's going to do it. I think it was me. Yeah, it might have been you. I was like, I know what he's going to do. I know.

James. James. Yeah, it might have been you. I was like, I know what he's going to do. I know. James. James. Hey, everyone. James isn't reacting positively to this, so I'm going to tell everyone. It's going to go big. Oh, he did. And he has funny moments, like with Captain America, Pride of that and whatever.

It's that. And I also think it's funny that Peyton Reed was like, I wanted to do that dead man too. And he did, but by then it's like, we saw this. Should have gone wide. Should have gone. Or thin. Yeah, or really thin.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a twig. The Punisher. Or inside out. Or inside out, yeah. The Punisher, we've got. The villain will be like, I'm going to destroy the world. I don't want to now.

Yuck. I'm going to go home. The Punisher, you've got Dolph Lundgren. You've got Thomas Jane. Yes. We've got Mark Dacascos. And we've got Ray Stevenson. That's right.

And then we've got John Barenthal in the series. Yeah. And it's probably Barenthal, but it's Warzone for me. I like, yeah, I also like Punisher Warzone. It's mostly the comic. Yeah. And it's just him. Because he's the worst. Yeah. And it's just him. And he looks, I think he looks the part the most. He's the comic. Yeah, and it's just him. Because he's the worst. Yeah, and it's just him.

And he looks, I think he looks the part the most. He's the biggest. He's just big and broad and old and angry. And what I love about this version, and this is like, I've said this before I think whenever I talk about the Punisher, he's awful. Yeah. Like in the comics, he's just an awful man.

And all the other heroes hate him. Whenever he shows up, they're like, oh, this fucking guy. This lunatic. Like everybody's afraid of him. You never know who like, he won't negotiate. He's just the worst. And that movie just like encapsulates that. He doesn't have friends.

Remember the bit where Dennis Nedry dies or whatever? And he just doesn't care. You know, he's Dennis Nedry dies or whatever? Yeah, yeah. And he just doesn't care. You know, he's got like a little family in the Thomas Jane one. Yeah. Like he doesn't do any of that. I don't like any of that. I mean, sometimes, whatever.

And I like the Thomas Jane one. I like Thomas Jane, but I don't like any aspect of that movie. The big Russian fight. Yeah, I like the part where John Travolta goes, get the Russian! Get the Russian! Do you like the bit where he blows up the skull for the cars and makes the skull order? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The car that makes the skull order?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And Dolph Lundgren punishes just like an angry dude with a gun. Yeah. No, it's hardly punished at all. Should have called it angry dude with a gun. Yes. Venom.

It goes bananas. An angry dude with a gun goes bananas. So Venom, we can do Spider-Man 3 or the movie Venom. Oh, yes. I mean, Venom's a better representation of the character. Yes. But I would much rather watch Spider-Man 3 than I would watch Venom again.

Yeah. I mean, I've watched Spider-Man 3 any number of times, but I've not gone back to Venom ever. Yeah. I'll watch the lobster tank scene. Sure. I like Tom Hardy and stuff, but that movie is so dull it's bad god oh it's spider-man 3 yeah oh but the character wise because it's not really i mean

they do the i mean technically they do the photographer i guess james we'll have to we'll have to go to the rules lawyer which is you yeah what are we going by we're going by the more enjoyable movie the more accurate representation of the character i think it's there what in because if you look at spider-man 3 he tries to take peter parker's job as his rival yes he gets fired for fake photography or whatever he goes to the church and gets the symbiote and then he fights spider-man that's all and in the venom movie he doesn't he comes from space and then he fights another venom yeah like it, yeah. Like it's fucking not even – but there's that – but I guess it's the spirit of the character more than his deeds, I guess. I think it's a tie.

Whatever. Let's give it to The Dark Knight for Heath Ledger's performance alone. Okay, right, right, right. Oscar nominated and won. And won an Oscar. His parents made the speech. It was quite moving. Yeah.

Well, here's a controversial one. I mean it's not – it won't be controversial for a lot of people, but I'm going to say something very controversial. I'm also going to say something. You know what it moving. Yeah. Well, he is a controversial one. I mean, it won't be controversial for a lot of people, but I'm going to say something very controversial. I'm also going to say something. You know what it is. It's the character of Hellboy, and I think it's the David Harbour version of Hellboy is the best Hellboy. It's not the best movie.

Nope. But I think you're right because he's mean and looks awful. Yes, exactly. In the best way. Yeah. And that movie's nearly and looks awful. Yes, exactly. In the best way. Yeah. And that movie's nearly something. Yeah. And, again, I like – look, I like the – I'm not a huge fan of The Golden Army,

but I like the first one a lot. I love The Golden – I think that's easily the best movie. Oh, interesting. The Golden Army, yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, I like the first one. He's fighting the Nazis, and that's always good. Yeah.

And, you know, but it felt a little bit – upon a rewatch especially, it felt quite Men in Black-y to to me and there's nothing wrong with that it just felt like it felt very kind of like clean and kind of by the numbers ish yeah okay i again i think i think when we talked about the the new version i think there's a lot of the mystique of guillermo del toro and then he's since won oscars and stuff and people like okay okay, well, he must make nothing but masterpieces. And I'm like, they're pretty good but they're not. I think the new one is, and again, maybe I'll rewatch it tomorrow and regret it immediately, but I think it's just weird and dirty

and just odd stuff happening in the moors in England. Yeah, fights giants and whatever. He's always fighting a giant in a thicket or whatever. Now, I hate to cut this short, but I think we should do the next half of this next week. Okay, yeah, let's do it. Because there's some big names here. Big names, okay.

And I think, you know, we don't have a topic for next week because we're probably not going to see Shang-Chi. Yeah. And look, I think this is enough, don't you? I think we've had enough. And if there's nothing more, we're bringing back another of our famous things from previous episodes.

We're bringing them all back and that's just bail on something. Just bailing on a segment. Just cut it short. Yeah. And then maybe never come back to it. Maybe we'll forget. Maybe a big trailer will come out next week and we'll forget about this whole thing.

But let us know. Let us know if there are any characters we've gotten to. Somebody can put a poll together. I think so, yeah. It doesn't have to be Collings, by the way. There's a lot of big names next week. Or if you disagree. Tell you what, if you disagree with any of these, let us know if you like.

And why. And why. Just be like, okay, fantastic for what about the scene in the scene. What about the scene in the scene? What about the scene in the scene? We'd love to debate you on it. Yeah. In the marketplace of ideas.

That's right. That's right. We're going to destroy you. I'm open to all sorts in the same. We're all seen in the same. We'd love to debate you on it. Yeah. In the marketplace of ideas. That's right. That's right. We're going to destroy you. I'm open to all sorts of alternative therapies. Yeah. Please only answer if you're like completely unprepared for a debate. Yeah. Maybe you're a college student.

Maybe you're on the way to class and you're like, oh, yeah, I have opinions on this. Yeah, yeah. We'll ask you a series of gotcha questions. Yep. And if you say anything clever, we won't include it. Yeah. But if you say something silly because you're not prepared, we'll use that and we'll be like, ha-ha, destroyed.

Gotcha. With facts and logic. And we just came at it with good faith and you didn't. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, time for the next segment of the show. A bunch of dumbasses doing that. Get out of here.

Intellectual dark web. Oh, here. Intellectual dark web. I know. Intellectual dark web, my balls. I love it. I love how a lot of them have to pivot into like anti-vax stuff just because that's where the audience is. I don't know who you're talking about, James. You know who I'm talking about.

It's literally everybody on that list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, here we go. James, it's time for another segment, right? It is. It's called What Are We Reading? And What Are We Going to Read? That's what we're going to do.

Yes. Oh, I've muted it. Oh, my God. That's classic 400th mistake. Here we go. I'm doing the thing. I'm doing the thing. Westworld. There we go. Some classic segments. I'm doing a thing.

Westworld. There we go. Some classic segments. You sang Westworld. Yep. And you stuffed it up earlier. I stuffed it up. So that's a classic.

You get it all. We can find a thing to do. You get it all. What have you been reading? I actually need to bring it up because I can't remember. Okay, well, I'll tell you what. I've been watching and reading in the meantime. Go for it. I've watched a few episodes of Cowboy Bebop because my Blu-ray.

I've actually seen every episode of Cowboy Bebop. Oh, yes. What do you think about the title character? Mason. Yes. Mason, Mason, Mason. There's no character called Cowboy Bebop. That's correct.

His name's Cowboy Jones. That's true. No, his name's Spike. That's true. And there was some controversy this week. Oh, yeah. Because some people in that didn't look like a cartoon. Yeah, that's true.

Look, we have legitimate concerns. Obviously, John Cho's version of Spike, the suit doesn't look accurate and his hair's not as accurate. And it's too woke. Yes, and also the actor playing Faye, her boobs aren't giant and she's not wearing like a PVC set of shorts. Did you see her come out and be like, I eat shit. I don't look like this person yeah yeah

and get over it uh you see these see these cosplayers and these um these static photos they look exactly like the character well it's funny you should say that i saw a comment that was like if if you recall uh carrie fisher was she was in the in the metal bikini so why can't anybody else because she hated that that's why she hated it and it's weird i saw one i saw a comment that was like, actually Carrie Fisher, she photocopied her boobs and she gave them to everybody on set. What's that got to do with it? Because they were all staring at her boobs.

So obviously she didn't mind. It's like, I don't think you understand. Is that what that is? I don't think she did it for that reason, actually. I think she did it for a different reason. I think it was a pointed comment. It seems that way. Ethan Taylor, who you might know, he animated the Rise of Skywalker thing.

He had a great point on Twitter. He wrote, angry fans will go off on how this adaptation isn't good enough. Cosplayers do a better job. Then proceed to post the most garbage-looking cosplay you've ever seen. And look, not to shade cosplay, because I even think there's a bunch of those cosplays that are good, but that stuff doesn't work. It doesn't translate. A lot of the time.

And it looks good in like very specific pose photos but it does not necessarily look good on TV. Or to fight in. Yeah, on TV, exactly. If you're the character of Cowboy Bebop, it's got to be practical and cool. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, what do you think of this series? A lot more Bebop than I was expecting, to be honest.

Why is that? I'm like, boy, this soundtrack really is quite jazzy. You don't like it? No, I do like it. It's fun. I'm a purist, so I'm a big fan. Yeah, but I think that, yeah, and again, I'm the absolute furthest. I'm the number one cowboy bebop noob, but just watching it now.

Well, two ends of the spectrum here, you know what I mean? If you just took everything about this show and you just made it live action, I think a lot of people might call it a little bit cringe. Oh. Like stuff that works in live action, stuff that works in animation is not necessarily going to translate all the way over. Look, I think if you do it right, it'll be fine.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I think. So just do it right, Netflix. All you've got to do is nail the aesthetic on top of the characters and obviously the storyline is a big part of a lot of shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you just get those three elements. What about like yellow PVC shorts and a crop top?

What about that? What about like a PVC pipe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm a big fan. Also, I've decided I'm going to catch up on X-Men comics. So I started with 2019's House of X slash Powers of X, which are two miniseries that you have to read in a very specific order, and I say, why didn't you just make them one big miniseries?

Question for you. Yes. Do they compile them in a way where it's easy to read them, or do you have to jump between books? You have to jump between books. That sucks. But not even like – They haven't even combined like the proper issues from each one

and put them in order. Not the versions I have, no. But also it's not like you do one and one and then one and one. It's like one and then two. It's like House of X one and then Powers of X one and two and then House of X three. Anyway, this is literally the reason I've not gotten to it up until now. But is it good? I don't want to navigate. one and then powers of x one and two and then house of x three and then anyway it's all it's it's this this is literally the reason i've not gotten to it up until now but is it good i don't

want to navigate yeah it's great it's jonathan hickman who's done like fantastic four and he's done avengers runs and he does like big ideas and like you know just just just the just the hugest stuff this i would nail the story element of it yes okay i he i would i would call this the new new x-men you know we'll talk about brand morrison did the new x-men which was like this paradigm changing you know uh new direction for the x-men and people really liked it and then marvel went we should probably just change it back to the status quo yeah so jonathan hickman's done house of x and powers of x and then some other couple of mini series and i think the the think the new ongoing X-Men is sort of this, still this continuity.

So like. Is Cerebro a person or something? Maybe. I don't know yet. But it's like the mutants have, they've, you know, established Krakoa, which is the new mutant island. And they've sort of. Because the last one exploded or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. And it's sort of been like, okay, we're a nation and we're setting up, you know up diplomacy with the rest of the world and we're a new world power kind of thing. And we're all weird bohemian types kind of thing. It's fun and big ideas and I like that. So that's really good. Excellent.

Yeah. I've been watching a video. I've still got about 10 minutes to go, but it's by Carl Jobster. And it's about exposing fraud and deception in the retro video game market. So you might have seen of late that it's like Super Mario Brothers has gone for a million dollars. Mario 64 has gone for a million and a half dollars or whatever. Like a cartridge. Yeah, like a cartridge, like sealed in box.

Anyways, it turns out it's just like one guy manipulating the market. How does he do it though? Because he goes to auction houses and there's certain loopholes and he buys games and they don't announce that it was him and then it drives up the price in general. Is he rich? Is that how this works? Yes. And he's done this before.

Right. And so he's now doing it for, and he's even been in interviews being like, I wish I got in, like I saw like other markets have been like, I wish I got in on NFTs. I wish I got in on Pokemon cards. Oh, I could do this with video games. Like that's literally. So the idea is, so the idea is, I guess do this with video games. That's literally his train of thought. So the idea is, I guess... And he went on Pawn Stars and stuff like that.

Maybe Sammy the Linker or whatever it is. But is the idea that he buys the thing for a huge amount of money and then people go, if it's worth that much, I should get in on it. But actually he's driven up the price by buying and selling within his own stuff, I guess.

Correct. Huh. And so it's, like, real video game collectors are obviously, like, annoyed. Yeah, yeah. I didn't want to pay a million dollars for this. I wanted to pay $5 for this. I did think something was up when they were, like, Mario 64 went for, like, a million and a half, and I'm like, why the fuck would that go for him?

It's not even that old. Is it, like, a test cartridge or something? I don't think so it might be like an early edition but I don't think so surely a lot of that stuff you could just go to like a cash converters or like a thrift store yes I mean but it's about the grading system and another thing is like a lot of people will send in things for grading and then like in the hope that somebody will just bump it up to a 9.8, which increases its value. Oh, I see. And they'll get them on a slow day.

Yeah, yeah. And so like the whole thing is like – and he likens it to the collectible coin market from the 80s, which is a similar thing where they jacked up the prices, everybody got out in the bottom, fell out of the market, and it has literally never been anywhere near the level that it was because it was never worth anything in the first place. Yeah, and also like the thing about a collectible collectible coin is put in a vending

machine it's gone exactly you put it in a vending machine also a dollar is just a dollar what are you even doing but also you can just it's like paying a huge amount for like a retro video game it's it's like buying like you could instead of buying a collectible coin just get a photo of the coin because like so many collectible video games, you can just, if you want to play them, like the point of them, you just get an emulator, right? Exactly. Free.

But I don't know anything. Yeah. It's an interesting video if you're into that stuff, which if you're listening to this show, there's a very good chance that you are. Are you saying it's on the YouTube? I texted you. No, I know. I saw it, yeah.

Get out of my business, Mason. You're asking me these questions. You're asking me these questions. You're driving me mad, Mason. I'm driving the speculative make you go mad market. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm making a sweet corner. Yeah, you better believe it.

Soon I'll have enough of that Donkey Kong country cartridge. Yeah, that's right. Do you know the original Donkey Kong is actually Cranky Kong, his grandpa or whatever? Yes. And I know that because I had that loaded up. If you were going to pause for even a second, I was just going to throw it in.

I was explaining that to my son the other day. He's like, interesting. And I'm like, yeah, we're cut from the same cloth. Yeah. What's next? Some letters. Yeah. And I'm ready to go.

All right. Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. If you do want to reach the show, which people do every week. Every week they want to. They have done it for pretty much since episode one we got a letter, didn't we?

Right, yeah. Some even prior to that. Wow. Yeah, mysterious letters. Spooky ghost letters. From the future. Yeah, they were like, don't start the podcast. You guys suck.

Get bad at this. It never gets good. And we're like, okay, mum. But you can reach the show via hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter. That's right. Or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Do you have anything right there? Because I'm currently looking at some.

I do. I've got a couple of here. One's from TooManyServingsOfJohn who says, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Hey, guys. I just got moved into college and I'm excited to be out on my own. Any advice? Any favorite college movies? Thank you both for everything you do.

Reservoir Dogs poster. Pulp Fiction poster. Donnie Darko poster. Donnie Darko poster. Donnie Darko poster. Crow, original Crow poster. Yeah, yeah. Fight Club poster. That Pink Floyd poster where it's the ladies, the naked ladies,

but they've got the Pink Floyd posters painted on their backs. Every beer or like whether it be can or bottle that you drink, put it up on a shelf in your room. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. People love that. Maybe some fashion choices. You could maybe wear like a flat cap or like a trench coat and like a Donnie Darko t-shirt.

Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anything that can be a poster can also be a t-shirt. Don't forget that. That's rule number one. That's rule number one. College life. Next to your bed you're going to have a crate, like a milk crate,

which you're going to put the rest of your phone on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your bed itself isn't going to be a bed. It's going to be a mattress. Yeah, yeah. You're not going to have a crate, like a milk crate, which you're going to put the rest of your phone on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your bed itself isn't going to be a bed. It's going to be a mattress. Yeah, yeah. You're not going to have a doona. It's going to be an old sleeping bag that you've unzipped all the way. And your pillow is going to be a pillowcase that's just stuffed

with old clothes, like a jacket and whatever. And hopefully you can keep this going well into your 30s. But in all seriousness, learn how to cook a few basic healthy meals because it's very easy to blow out don't drink too much because you can and so you just will if you're me

what else would you say just get some running the college 15 whatever it happens to most people keep on top of your study, I guess. Nobody cares. Like your professors or whatever won't chase you.

Yeah, that's true. So you need to, you know. But it's also you're free a lot of the time. That's true, yeah. So that's cool. So you'll have fun, hopefully. Join a club. Join a club.

They'll probably have some freshman initiation stuff or whatever. You can meet a bunch of other people. But not like pranks. No, stay away from that shit. Join a club. They'll probably have some freshman initiation stuff or whatever. You could meet a bunch of other people. But not like pranks. No, stay away from that shit. Join the anime club, obviously. That's how you got all your skills, James. That's right. And then the students came to see you.

No, I started the club. Oh, did you? Okay, cool. I was actually, I started it when I was 14. I'd already established it by the time I got there. You're like the Doogie Howser of anime clubs. Any other recommendations? That's about it.

Yeah. But you could have fun. Yeah, get amongst it. Yeah. Yeah. What else, Mason? Okay. This is from Erica Brunner.

Let's do it. A weird weekly planet dream. Okay. Here we go. Wait, I hate dreams. Oh, here we go. This is your- Oh, okay.

Hey, James and Mason, I've been listening to you guys for about a year now. I absolutely love the show. You guys are talking about red hot comic book movie news. It's helped me find new things I love and get through challenging times. So that's good. Last night I had a very odd dream. I spontaneously became pregnant and was rushed to the hospital to give birth. Their two baby boys were born.

I like where this is going. The doctor then sent me home to rest. It wasn't until the next day that I realized there was another baby inside me that needed to be delivered. Oh, my God. When I arrived at the hospital, the doctor said he would not help me until I named my first two children. In a moment of panic, I recalled how other listeners of the podcast named their children after you.

Do they? Yep. I like the name Mason and woke up thinking about how horrible the name James is. What? Yep. That's a classic name. It's always top ten.

It's always top ten, Mason. Overdone then, isn't it? Overdone. Mason's not even a real name. It's true. It's always top ten, Mason. Overdone then, isn't it? Overdone. Mason's not even a real name. It's true. It's not. If your first name's Mason, what do you do with yourself? Madness.

Thanks again for creating a podcast that's caused me to fall in love with comics and movies. What was the third baby called? Doesn't say. Yeah. Wow, that would be terrifying. Can I please be the official future filmmaker of the podcast? Yes, you may.

Guess what? You got an iPhone, you're already a filmmaker. There's a little bit of inspiration. That's true. And if you've got a door, you've got a gym. That's another way of staving off the freshman 15. That's right. Exactly.

I've got another one here from Caitlin who says, Hashtag weekly planet pod. Oh, college movies. Sorry, you meant to say that for too many stirrings of John. Oh, yeah. Van Wilder. Yeah, Dead Man on Campus. Have you seen that? No, you meant to say that for too many stirrings of John. Oh, yeah. Van Wilder. Yeah, Dead Man on Campus, have you seen that? No, I haven't seen that.

There's not that many good college movies, are there? That Jim Belushi one or whatever I guess people like. Yeah, I mean, maybe there's a new crop of like good ones. Road Trip. Well, I was going to say, like I think so many of the ones that we. They're just rapey. Yeah, that's exactly it. Like I want, there must be, you know, there must be ones that we they're just rapey yeah that's exactly it like i want there must be i don't you

know there must be ones that are like okay it's funny and we do college stuff but it isn't just it is some i just googled but um neighbors oh yeah and yeah we know it as bad neighbors because obviously the tv series neighbors yes uh 22 jump street oh yeah yeah if you want something a little um sexier no not sexy going bananasy no if you want something a little... Sexier. No, not sexy. Going bananas-y. No, if you want something like a little bit sadder and more melancholy, Like Crazy, which has got... What the hell is in this?

Hang on. It's got Felicity Jones and Anton Yelchin. Oh, great. And very early Jennifer Lawrence. Oh, great. I guess, what else have I got here? Social Network. Mm-hmm.

Legally Blonde. Mm-hmm. Old School. Hell, yeah. H I got here? Social Network. Mm-hmm. Legally Blonde. Mm-hmm. Old School. Hell yeah. Hitch Perfect. Hell yeah. Good Will Hunting. Oh, yeah.

I guess is one. Robin Williams School. Robin Williams School. Mm-hmm. Mona Lisa's Smile. Okay, sure. There we go. Van Wilder, The Rise of Taj.

Ha, ha, ha, yep. The sequel. Yeah. There we go. Whiplash. Oh, yeah. Okay, sure. That's technically one, isn't it? There we go. James, here's The sequel. Yeah. Ah, there we go. Whiplash. Oh, yeah. Okay, sure. That's technically one, isn't it?

There we go. James, here's an email from Joe. Joey B. Joe, what up? Hey, James and Mace. I'm currently hanging out with my college roommates. Hello. Getting drunk.

It's around 1am in New Orleans and we have Australian rules football on the TV. Oh, yeah. What is going on? This makes no sense. I get scared every time the players collide. How does everyone not have concussions on every play? This sport is insane. Can I be the official LSU student listener of the podcast?

Well, the theory behind that is because they're not armoured up. They don't hit as hard. It is hard. That being said, horrific injuries do occur. But the rate of head trauma is, to my understanding, lower than it is in gridiron or even rugby because rugby they often don't wear helmets. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think they still should wear those like soft helmets. Yeah. But that would be embarrassing, wouldn't it? Yeah. I mean, if you're going to. Yeah, come on. Yeah. You're going to run into another man at full pelt, at full tilt.

Do it with your bare head. Do it with your bare head. Crack your skulls together. You know, I don't like, I'm not a huge huge fan but it's a pretty good game yeah yeah what else sport of kings what of king oh actually i was in the middle of one before you cut me off caitlin who says which is the better nonsensical what if storyline marvel's what if on disney plus or star wars infinities because it seems to me that both have characters that have gotten into gear sooner, us into gear sooner, would have saved lives.

Well, I guess if you're not including the comics. If you were including the comics, there's less Star Wars stuff. There's three Star Wars Infinities. But there's like ten volumes of Marvel What If. But at the moment there's only been three episodes of What If. And we still don't really know where it's going, that show. And the Star Wars What if don't connect. Oh, right, right, right.

But I feel like the Disney Plus ones might. Yeah, right. Hmm. Look, I mean, I, as a lifelong Marvel fanboy, I think. I think Marvel's better. For me, it's what if, but yeah. I mean, I think the first what if in Star Wars is good and the other two are fine. I see, I think the first What If in Star Wars is good and the other two are fine.

I see, right. But the first one of Yoda crashing the Death Star into Coruscant and killing like a billion people, chef's kiss. That's exactly right. Chef's kiss, my friend. Yes. So in answer to that, that is what I think. That's right.

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I'm like, I think I'm just going to get all my aging out of the way. Just get it done up top. Yeah, nice. You know what I mean? And then I'll worry about it. I think Paul Rudd's going to do that at like 60. It's all going to hit him at once. Exactly.

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