The Weekly Planet - 408 Dune. It's Dune time

Episode Date: October 25, 2021

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.I can't believe it's Dune o'clock time already. And to celebrate this... we cover the new Denis Villeneuve sci-fi epic Dune 2021. Plus more delays over at Marvel, Spider-Man and Star Wars news and just bad stuff right out of the gate. Thanks for listening!Confessions of the Idiots podcast: https://apple.co/3jtHiQU00:00 The Start06:18 Halyna Hutchins RIP12:09 Batwoman Drama15:39 The Eternals Reactions18:49 Hayden Christensen Ashoka Return20:43 Y: The Last Man Cancelled22:19 Guardians of the Galaxy 323:09 New Teasers24:48 Uncharted Trailer29:37 World War Hulk32:24 Indiana Jones and MCU Delays34:50 Mystery Sony Marvel Movies36:36 New Spider-Man: No Way Home Images 39:04 Dune 2021 Review (spoilers 57:10 to 01:13:56)01:13:56 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:23:10 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your butt hole. podcast from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. My God, you're here, you're back. It's 8.13pm. What does that mean? It means nothing to anybody.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And I can stay here as long as I like. That's right. No, no. No, I'm staying here as long as I like. No, you absolutely cannot, Mason. No, no, no. I'm going to inflate one of those big pool things and I'm going to swim in your pool. I don't have a pool.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yeah, I'm getting one built. I'm going to stay here until the pool is built. I don't want it. Do I have to pay for the pool? Yes. Oh, no. I don't like these new lockdown rules where I have to build a pool for you. I mean, that's what the Premier said.
Starting point is 00:01:51 This is socialism. Yeah. This is socialism and dictators or whatever people think it is. That's exactly right. Well, what I'm saying, I'm saying that it's important. Well, it's 8.14 now. But what I'm saying is that lockdown in Melbourne has eased. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:04 So I don't have to be at home by 9pm. That's right. Terrific. It's exciting, isn't it? But you do have to leave at some point. Preferably. I'm going to ring the Premier and we'll see. See what he says. So Dan, what do you reckon about maybe just hanging out at James' house just for the rest of the week?
Starting point is 00:02:20 Oh, I hate it actually. You should go Oh, did you hear? He doesn't want you to go be here. The Premier said that. that did sound like him that was his nasally non-committal voice now I'm very nasally and non-committal you know that Mason
Starting point is 00:02:32 of the weekly planet but this week I was on a show where we had to make definitive decisions our confessions of the idiots with Sam Peterson I went on again
Starting point is 00:02:40 with Jess Perkins if you don't know it's linked below but that show is where basically he takes terrible, terrible confessions from Reddit and then we make fun of them and make fun of the people who those things happen to.
Starting point is 00:02:52 We just rip right through them. And you get enraged. And I get enraged. And Jess gets incredibly enraged. Yeah, Jess is way more enraged. And I think that's good because, like, having her there, people, you know, I'm less of a lunatic if we're all doing it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Do you think at this point you're pretty good? Because you've done that show a bunch of times. Do you think you're pretty good now at figuring out which is a real confession, which is like a – I think Sam's most good at it, yeah. He's pretty good. And it's always fun. It's always good to do.
Starting point is 00:03:18 So that's linked below. And also linked below, our big sandwich, which is our private little subscription service. Don't tell anyone. Private little country club. This week leading up to Halloween, the spookiest time of the year, and I'm not just talking about, here he is. He's gearing up.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Halloween? I am, actually. I am talking about Halloween this time. That's great. That's great. We did a scream commentary. We did. It's true.
Starting point is 00:03:42 So that's coming up. And where Nick Mason tries to puzzle out the murderer in real time during the movie. Do I use logic and evidence or do I just sort of reckon at it? You reckon at it. Yeah, by being like. Best shot though. By being like, what are these movies normally like?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Who's normally, you know, what, is it just foreshadowing? Is it just whoever gives the most sinister look to camera? Dunno. That's exactly right. But anyway, so next week will be our Halloween episode. We'll probably talk about that new Halloween movie and just some other spooky stuff in general. We decided to call that episode, we workshopped it,
Starting point is 00:04:17 a hella scream spooktacular Shocktober the 30 worst brackets no cowards episode. Nice. Yeah, that's right. You know, like YouTubers are like, it's spooktember. It's boo, but it's Halloween. You know what I mean? Whatever. Yeah. I've just mushed them all together.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Boo-tube. Boo-tube. Thank you. So there you go. Time codes below, though, for the things we're going to talk about today. We've got bad news all around just up top, which we've got to get through, unfortunately. And then we're going to talk about some Eternals reactions some eternals reactions we don't have to get through it on
Starting point is 00:04:48 four we could we could skip over i think it's important to live in a dream world i love living in a dream or maybe we will skip it we're going to talk about eternals the responses to that uh hayden christiansen may be returning as darth vader some more why Why the Last Man. Guardians 3. Trailers. We've got Cowboy Bebop. Hello, the troops. It's Darth Vader some more. Hello.
Starting point is 00:05:12 It's me again. You thought I died, but I didn't die. This is my new voice. I finally figured out the switch is on the front. Now I can use this voice. It doesn't make me in a better mood, but it makes me sound like I'm having a good time of it. Execute the Ewoks.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Kill them all. Sorry, I missed the last three or four entries on this. That's fine. Trailer's Cowboy Bebop Ambulance. Did you see that Michael Bay one? Yes. And Uncharted. What else have we got here? Maybe some World War Hulk movies.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And then a bunch of delays but not dismays. They're a big week for delays. That's right. Spider-Man News. And then we're going to talk about Dune because Dune's out. We're back on track. We're seeing movies as they come out. Excited.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Unless you live in Europe, in which case it's been out for like a month already. You've already seen it. You're sick of it. Yeah. But it's interesting that it's been out for a month in Europe, but Twitter has been completely silent. Yeah. But then as soon as it comes out, like.
Starting point is 00:06:01 In the States. Maybe we don't follow enough Europeans. Maybe that's true. Maybe they're spending too much time in cafes having a real time of it and not tweeting. Oh, maybe, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they would be.
Starting point is 00:06:11 A cosmopolitan time about it. Oh, my God. They'd have an eclair in one hand and a cigarillo in the other and a red wine in their third hand just swigging and smoking. They'd be taking a photo but it's a film camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they wouldn't post it anywhere. Gross.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yuck. Ew, precious memories. Put it on the shelf. camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they wouldn't post it anywhere. Gross. Yuck. Precious memories. Put it on the shelf. Yeah. Put it on the shelf. Europe more like Puroop, we all say to each other. Yeah, we say that. It's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah. Unlike Melbourne, which is just a bad imitation of most places. Smelbourne. Smelbourne? Yeah. Very good. Anyway, so we've got to talk about our top, the death of cinematographer. Smelbourne Dictoria.
Starting point is 00:06:44 That's good. That's actually very good. I wish you didn't, the death of cinematographer. Smelben Dictoria. That's good. That's actually very good. I wish you didn't say it while I was talking about this tragic event, Mason, but it is an excellent joke. Let's take a moment. Okay, but if you want to throw it in at any point, that's fine. Just lighten the mood. Let me forget.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Do I have any more state-based, hilarious state-based puns? I have too many. That's the problem. Yeah, okay. Same below. That's often the problem. When you see me staring off into space sometimes, it's not that I don't have a joke.
Starting point is 00:07:08 You're bogged down in jokes. I'm bogged down in jokes. I'm spoiled for choice. I'm paralyzed within decision about which joke I should use. So the death of cinematographer Helena Hutchins, who died on the set of Rust at age 42. Recently before this, she worked on the movie Arch Enemy, which I didn't see, but that has a very good look to it, doesn't it? It does, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So, I mean, it would have been bad even if that movie was terrible. That's true, yeah. This is still terrible news. So what essentially happened, and I'm going to just go through it, and there's bits and pieces of information that have been released. We don't know the full details. We were not there. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:07:41 We're not putting blame on anybody in particular, but maybe we will. Let's see what happens. No. So she was shot in the chest and the director standing behind her, Joel Sousa, was injured. The weapon was fired by Alec Baldwin after he was handed what he was told was a cold gun. Which is a gun that doesn't have any live rounds in it,
Starting point is 00:08:00 which I think means it can mean a regular bullet. It can mean a blank. It can mean like anything in there. Like a piece of something in there. But it was meant to be like a gun that had nothing in it. Yes. So the idea was that this is from Variety, that the prop gun that he fired contained a single live round.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And according to the Los Angeles Times, about half a dozen members of the camera crew, this is prior to this, walked out hours before the tragedy after protesting over the working conditions on the set, right? Because we mentioned that last week. We did, yeah. There was some, a lot of the technical employees on, you know, on movies went on strike because they were told, you know, they were told that they couldn't go home and sleep or what have you. Like I think even perhaps on this movie some were told that they were going to get hotel rooms nearby to the set and then they were like, oh, we didn't get any hotels.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You have to drive 50 miles home. Yeah, exactly. I mean you're doing long days. That's ludicrous. So the union members have reportedly complained that, yeah, they were promised hotels in Santa Fe but when their filming began it was 80 kilometres away. Oh, wow. Union members have reportedly complained that, yeah, they were promised hotels in Santa Fe, but when their filming began, it was 80 kilometres away for our metric brethren.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Our Europeans. That's right. The Post also reported that a prop master was brought in, a new prop master, and the prop gun also misfired twice on Saturday. So prior to this. The same gun. And once during the previous week. And I also was looking into information on this. Apparently it's not a misfire because a misfire doesn't shoot.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Right, okay. So this is something else. So apparently what happened is the prop master is supposed to only handle the gun and you're supposed to have it on your gun rack or shelf or whatever it is. And somebody has to be there the entire time. So it basically cannot be – people don't go up and go, oh, what's this, And just like have a look. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And then they hand it to the assistant director who checks the gun for each dummy round. That didn't happen. These are steps that are supposed to happen. Yeah, I've heard there's a guy, he doesn't do the podcast anymore, but you know Larry Miller? He's that comedian actor. He's the dad in 10 Things I Hate About You.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Okay, right. But he used to do a podcast and and I listened to one where he talked about like when there's a gun on set, like the guy comes, the assistant directly comes up to you and he goes, okay, this is the gun. It's going to be pointed at you. If you can see the barrel stopped up and you open this and it's empty and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And then they do the take and then he comes up to you in the next take and he goes, okay, it's the same gun and it's empty and it's blah, blah, it's blocked up or whatever. So like it's supposed to be like every step of the way. Yeah. It's that. it's blocked up or whatever. So like it's supposed to be like every step of the way. Yeah. It's that. Yeah, exactly. So basically none of that happened and I think it was the assistant director,
Starting point is 00:10:32 but I might be wrong, handed it straight to Alec Baldwin. Someone, you know, they said cold gun. Right. And then he fired it. So it was given to the assistant director and he went, okay, there it is. No, no, he gave it. There was no in-between stuff. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Right. This is a bit, again, this is just what I've heard. Yeah, right. This might change. Yeah. You know, so, and people are obviously drawing parallels to what happened to Brandon Lee on The Crow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Which was a not dissimilar accident which occurred in 93 or 94. Yeah, right. So this was a real bullet. Yeah, it says it's a live round. So I don't know what that means though in particular, like to be honest. It could be a blank but again blanks are yeah often uh still lethal yeah and again it's an ongoing yeah exactly you can blind someone with a blank you can have them you can make them deaf like it's they're still dangerous and a lot of people have now said you know there's
Starting point is 00:11:19 alternatives to this you can use airsoft you know what i mean you can yeah right obviously you can do things in post with muzzle flashes and whatever. And I know people like CGI muzzle flashes are false. I've often said that, yes. But there's also – But if the alternative is people being shot. But also like they often use them and you don't know. That's exactly right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So there are ways to do it well. I would imagine that whenever I notice it in a movie, it's probably like a very low budget movie or it's like – yeah, like there are probably plenty of movies where I would never have picked up on it and it is completely CG or the guns aren't real or, you know, any number of things. But, yeah, I mean you can, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:53 you can get the airsoft guns that have a realistic recoil. You can add more recoil in post. You can add the casing coming out of the gun. You can add that. And oftentimes I think they have to like add muzzle flash anyway because if you're firing a gun, it sometimes it'll fire. The flash will happen in between frames of the camera. So oftentimes somebody will fire a gun on set
Starting point is 00:12:14 and you don't even see it because it's just not picked up. So they have to add it anyway. Yeah, and the thing is as well like this has obviously been going on for a long time and this system, if you do it, works because you've got multiple people checking it. But the problem is when these things break down, that's when things like this happen. So, you know, I could see why that like you could call for this being like,
Starting point is 00:12:36 well, you just need proper systems in place and this won't happen. But I feel like things like this are going to keep happening if people aren't being paid properly and they're bringing in other people and whatever. So I think there's multiple levels of fault here. I don't think you could pin it on one person in particular. Yeah, I don't know much about the armourer, but apparently it was like her second major film.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Okay, right. She's the daughter of a more famous armourer. It's the family business. Right, okay. Jeez. All right, fair enough. Anyway, moving on to a slightly less grim thing. Okay, terrific.
Starting point is 00:13:09 This is Batwoman. We're tunneling out. We're digging up. Sort of. Okay, great. This is Batwoman drama. And by drama, I mean terrible things. People saying terrible things about each other.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, right. Here we go. So Ruby Rose, she wrote of the series because famously she left at the end of last season she was like i'm quitting and whatever and you know it's all fun and fine and whatever and that was kind of everybody's official statement she's come out and said enough is enough uh and she named a number of things which happened to her she witnessed on set including she was forced to return to work after serious injury and surgery and she also said uh they told her if she didn't the whole cast and crew would be fired. She accused former head of Warner Brothers TV, Peter Roth, that he had women like
Starting point is 00:13:49 steam his pants around the crotch while he was wearing them. He also said do Grace Scott, who was nearly Wolverine, was abusive towards women and he hurt a female stunt performer. She also said that she said the working conditions caused a crew member to receive third-degree burns and the skin melted off this person's face. She said, I would not return for any amount of money, nor if a gun was to my head, nor did I quit. I did not quit. They ruined Kate Kane and destroyed Batwoman, not me.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Now, there's been some pushback towards this, which I will also go through. Oh, you're going to give both sides of this argument. You've got to do your own research. You know that, Mason. I know that. So do Gray Scott refutes the claims, as did Peter Roth, who I don't think is the head of Warner Brothers TV anymore. They've released an official statement, Warner Brothers,
Starting point is 00:14:35 calling it revisionist history. They said that their action was a result of an internal probe into multiple complaints about workplace behaviour. There's an actor on the show called Cameris Johnson, who Ruby Rose called an egomaniac kid, but he said she was fired and it's very hard to be fired when you're the lead. Imagine what you'd have to do for that to happen. And a production assistant by the name of Alexander J Baxter said Rose stormed off set. She yelled at people whenever she was interacting with any of the production assistants. We were disregarded as the trash we picked up. One day, the studio spent an entire morning setting up a requested green room,
Starting point is 00:15:08 six heaters because she was used to the heat from Australia, and a table of snacks. Only for her to show up, giggle, walk away and say she was good. So essentially it's all terrible. And if I had to guess, well, look, first of all, CW does have a reputation for terrible conditions and long hours and all of these things. And, look, I'm sure there's probably a bit of truth to a lot of all, CW does have a reputation for terrible conditions and long hours and all of these things. And look, I'm sure there's probably a bit of truth to a lot of this,
Starting point is 00:15:28 but I don't know which elements are true and which are not. All right, here we go. I did this podcast under the condition you knew exactly which elements of that were true and false, and you were going to lay it down for me and the listeners. Yeah. Look, honestly, I don't know. There's multiple people, like, saying that she was terrible,
Starting point is 00:15:44 and there has been proof before that the CW, like Stephen Amell has talked about, like, the stress. He's the lead of, like, working on one of these shows. Exactly, yeah. He had a sort of post-Arrow mental breakdown, I think. So there you go. Anyway, no doubt this will play out for weeks to come and maybe we can just ignore it.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I don't know. I just, God, it's just when you get in the weeds of a thing like this, it's like I – and then you end up every week being like, well, this person said this and then this person – and I just – you know what I mean? We're not the bloody Hollywood hot goss recorder, are we? I've got some Hollywood hot goss for you, Mason. Do you?
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah. This is about a turtle's reaction. Folks, we're rebranding. We're the Hollywood hot goss. This is for Eternals reactions. Folks, we're rebranding. We're the Hollywood Hot Goss. This is for Eternals. Wait, we're the Hollywood Hot Goss Hotline. Leave a message. Hotline, there we go.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yes. Please do. I'm going to read some Eternals reactions on Twitter because they did some screenings. People are loving it. Here we go. Eternals is so dense. Are we taking these with a grain of salt, though,
Starting point is 00:16:42 bearing in mind everybody who gets advanced screenings to these loves them? Yes. Great. Eternals is dense, and I we taking these with a grain of salt, though, bearing in mind everybody who gets advanced screenings to these loves them? Yes. Great. Eternals is dense, and I felt the weight of the exposition often. That's one. Number two. So Eternals is dense, rich, and has more depth in any story
Starting point is 00:16:54 than anything the MCU has ever done thus far. Number three. Eternals is thought-provoking, thematically dense. Ooh. And Eternals is surprising, epic, beautifully dense. The Eternals is unlike any other film in the MCU. It's dense with information, and I don't think it's for everybody. The Eternals is going to need some time to chew on it.
Starting point is 00:17:15 It's dense. I got trapped in the heart of a star. It was really dense. I couldn't escape the event horizon because of its density. I'm still here now. I've become a two-dimensional being because of the density. But I still loved Eternals. I live on the movie screen now in two dimensions.
Starting point is 00:17:33 So there you go, dense. I think dense was maybe on the PR. Dense can be bad. I think dense was on the PR packet or something. And people went, I don't want to say convoluted because. Look, it's early, but I don't want to say convoluted because I look it's early but I don't think dense I think that's a good way of saying like it's maybe complicated
Starting point is 00:17:50 and I didn't like elements of it I might be wrong I don't know it looks terrific I'd love it to be great who doesn't love movies to be great I love movies when movies are great they have to be great or terrible because then I can say things.
Starting point is 00:18:05 But if in the middle, I'm not interested. That's right. Not interested in your middle in Ghostbusters sequel. Speaking of Ghostbusters stuff this week for Caravan of Garbage. That's right. Going through some Ghostbusters stuff. What do you think about that? Are you excited for Eternals?
Starting point is 00:18:17 I'm excited for Eternals. Yeah, cool. I like all their different little doodads. Widgets and gadgets. Widgets and gadgets, yeah. And bits and bobs. Yeah, and their Lexuses. Their Lexi.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Their various Lexi models. It's good, isn't it? Yeah. Should be fun. But we'll see. There's already rumours floating about about story and characters and what have you. I heard there was a big spoiler which I've managed to avoid for now.
Starting point is 00:18:40 But it'll probably be spoiled. I think Variety or someone was just like, this thing happens. This big thing happens. It's dense. It's so dense. Spoiler alert, this movie's dense. It's not that I'm dense.
Starting point is 00:18:53 It's the movie. Yeah. Anyway, I mean, look, to be fair, they're mostly positive. Yes. And like the negative ones are like, maybe it's too much. I don't think it'll be that much, honestly. I've never seen a movie, so I might be a bit overwhelming. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I saw the train pulling into the station. Yeah, terrific. And it scared me. It frightened the bejesus out of me. So I'm a bit worried to go back to the cinema. But you were saying some Hail Marys that night. You better believe it. So, yeah, obviously I'm a bit scared to go back to the cinema,
Starting point is 00:19:17 especially if it's a dense experience. Be densely packed, certainly. I also think like dense is often like I use it as an insult. Like, are you fucking dense? Maybe that's just a negative connotation for me Maybe it's because people call me dense Maybe that's what it is Are you dumb and you're a dumb guy?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yes! And I'm not getting smarter at this point, am I? I'm committed to this This is my brain forever now I didn't learn enough when I was a kid And then the barrier came up I can't learn anymore Anyway, according to the Hollywood Reporter You're going to love this enough when I was a kid. And then the barrier came up and I can't learn anymore. Anyway, according to the Hollywood Reporter,
Starting point is 00:19:49 you're going to love this. Sounds like Hollywood Hot Goss Hotline. Wow, give us a ring. Ring in now. Ring-a-ding-ding. Give us a ding-a-ling. Give us a jingle-jangle on the Hollywood Hot Goss Hotline. We could do breakfast radio. Yeah, I think so. Hayden Christensen is going to return as Anakin in the Ahsoka TV series.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Is it a forced ghost? Is it a flashback? Did he get out of that Ewok fire? I'm back. I'll talk like this now, whatever, whatever we were doing. Flashback, right? Because Ahsoka. Or ghost.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah, because, well, maybe both. Because they teamed up in Clone Wars, right? Yep, well done. Clone Wars. Good commitment to that. You're right. I am right. You can go hard on that, though.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You could have just been like, he's in Clone Wars, definitively. Well, now that I know, I can tell you he's in Clone Wars. I'll never commit to it. I'll never commit. I think maybe a bit of both. Okay. Ghost him up, mate. He looks mostly the same.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You'd probably have to de-age him slightly. Give him the wig. Just go for your life. you know what I mean? Just give him short hair. No, you can't. They committed to that look. That's the look he died with or became Darth Vader with or whatever. They switched his ghost, remember?
Starting point is 00:20:56 Yeah, right, right. He's a Hayden Christensen ghost now. Do you think they ever considered like, you know, when they did the special editions of the original trilogy, like that scene where his helmet comes off, just a big flop of golden hair comes out of it. No, he's already melted off. No, but he's gotten plugs.
Starting point is 00:21:10 What if he's wearing a wig? He got plugs put in. Like there's an awkward middle period when he wasn't quite down with the Darth Vader bit, so he had plugs put in. So every time he takes the helmet off, it's like, what? Where did they harvest the hair from? His butt. That looked on fire.
Starting point is 00:21:25 No, his legs and his arms. Okay. And his head. Yep. Good stuff. Funny hair loft in my butt. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do outside of a George Lucas Star Wars movie.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Right. Because, you know, I think he's a good actor. Yeah. Anyway, this is great because Why the Last Man, you're excited of this, it started this year after a decade in development and it's cancelled. They cancelled it.
Starting point is 00:21:47 They cancelled it. That's right, yeah. I was like, I should start that show. I didn't even, I wasn't even entirely sure what streaming said. I think it's on Hulu. I don't know if it, does that mean Disney Plus? It's on Disney Plus. I'll just check right now to see if it's on there.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Because we get most of the Hulu stuff through that, right? Yeah, but we don't get it week to week, which is unfortunate. That's true. There's a artist called Branson Reese. He does like, like. I know him does like real dirty weird comics and stuff. Yeah, I'm a big fan. Like a horrible duck or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like Swan Boy.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Oh, that's right. He has like a series of shorts on Hulu currently called Swan Boy, but I don't think they're on this one right now. Hang on. What were we talking about? I've lost my train of thought. Brandon Reese. No, no, no, Last Man on the Moon.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Hulu. Yeah. It's not on Disney Plus yet. Oh, well, it doesn't matter. Will it ever be? Probably. Probably not. So anyway.
Starting point is 00:22:34 We do have Last Man Standing, i.e. Tim Allen has too many daughters. He's got so many daughters. So he's a man. How does he even have so many daughters? How does that even work? So showrunner Eliza Clark says she remains hopeful that it can return on another platform. I think it's, this is a property that, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:49 is a beloved comic and people have been, like, waiting for it. It was supposed to be a movie in, like, 2009 with Shia LaBeouf or whatever. That's right. And it's been that long in development. So I think there's definitely room to pivot in this. But I haven't really heard anything about it, like good or bad. I don't know. It wasn't marketed.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Maybe it was just here, but it wasn't marketed very well, it seems. Anyway, there you go. Here's the news, Mason. Here's the news. Guardians 3 has begun production. MCU updates on Twitter, they were like, guess what?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Daniela Melchior, who you might know as Ratcatcher 2 in Suicide Squad, she's joining the cast as Moondragon. And James Gunn took to Twitter to say, in all caps, false. Yeah, right. He's back. He's back. Just shooting shit down. Boom, boom, bam.
Starting point is 00:23:39 He got a call from the Hollywood Hot Goss Hotline and he's like, uh. I think you went false. Wrong number. Oh, that's right. Someone's calling Collector and I'm not going to accept the charges. I spit in the face of this phone call, he said. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's his catchphrase. To two. I spit in the, that's his catchphrase. It's got the stutter in there and everything. Yeah, so there you go. Anyway, that's starting, which is good. Apparently not delayed, but I do want to talk about some things that were delayed in a minute.
Starting point is 00:24:04 We've got trailers. Cowboy Bebop was a little like anime-inspired. They were using the lines and the panels to fight and biff and bash. I wonder if that is going to be, is that evident? Is it in the show? Is it represented on the show at all? I think it's probably some of it, but I'd say it would probably be too much if they did the whole show like that.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Just some clever scene transitions and, you know what I mean, stuff. I know about stuff. There you go. We also have the trailer for Michael Bay's Ambulance. Bay Films, which, by the way, not a good name. Bay Films. Yeah, it's not good, is it? Think of a better thing.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yeah. Bayos would be better. Bayhem is good? Bayhem Times. I don't thing. Yeah. Baos would be better. Bayhem is good. Bayhem times. I don't know. Anyway. Michael films. What did you think?
Starting point is 00:24:54 I don't want to watch any more Michael Bay movies. I like the trailer. I like who's in it. Yep. And it's mostly set in an ambulance, it seems. That's true. So you can't do too many explosions within that ambulance. That ambulance is going to spin, though.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Boy, is it. Yeah. How many times do you think they can spin it and it keeps going? Or will there be one big crash? I reckon there'll be two big crashes. Wow. And the second one will do it in. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Interesting. I also think that Jake Gyllenhaal's brother is going to get away and he's going to sacrifice himself. He's going to be like, we've gone too far. And he's like, you actually, you've crossed the line. You told me I was just going to pay off my debt with my family or whatever and whatever. And I was a crim and you did this and blah.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And then Jake Gyllenhaal's like, you've got to get it together. This is what you've got to do. Society's against us. And then Jake Gyllenhaal in the end will let his brother get away and he'll get shot or arrested or something. That's the end of that movie. Correct. Sorry for spoiling it.
Starting point is 00:25:41 We also got a trailer for Uncharted. We sure did. And people are like, this isn'tarted this is little boy uncharted this is uncharted babies oh my god yes yeah i thought it was fine i thought it was like i see what they're doing they're putting tom holland in now so if this is when he grows up and becomes a man exactly so they can make him make him Nathan Drake for the next 40 years. Yeah. It's smart if it's good. If it's good. And by the way, I mean, how many do you think it'll get? How many in the, what's the record? Is it two Tomb Raider movies?
Starting point is 00:26:15 It's been two in a row as the record of Tomb Raider movies. In the same continuity you're talking about. Yeah. I mean, The Mummy had three. Well, technically four. I'm not talking about like. Video games. I'm talking video games.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Oh, it's Resident Evil without a doubt. Of course, there's a million of those. There's a billion Resident Evils and there's two more on the way. Yeah, but they're new. Yeah. New ones or whatever. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's Tom Holland and he's a guaranteed earner. So, you know, he's hot stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I think he looks good in it, honestly. And there's a bit where the Scottish guy's like, and Tom Holland's like, what? What? Excuse me? Yeah. I'm from England. I'm in America.
Starting point is 00:26:51 The most upsetting thing in this for me is it's the Sully thing. It's the Mark Wahlberg's just no effort Sully. He's just Mark Wahlberg, isn't he? Because at least you could say for little boy Tom Holland, a 25-year-old man, a grown man, is that he at least looks like a blend between little Nathan Drake and older Nathan Drake you know what I mean? It's the Henley
Starting point is 00:27:12 that does it. Yeah, you can see it there. You're wearing a Henley right now in honour of Nathan Drake That's right, honour of our boys Nathan Drake in honour of the Nathan Drake quadrilogy not including the PS Vita port and the PS4 spin-off yeah which are also very good games but of course they're doing the uh the the playing thing i don't know if you've ever
Starting point is 00:27:31 played uncharted 3 um no i am aware of that scene yeah and they were like this is unrealistic and i'm like this is this is what it is sure this is the game so it did i mean yes and i think i'm not saying it looks great i'm just saying that's what it is i think it looked very like it looked very much identical to the video game that's what i mean there was that sense of like cg unreality you can jump between crates and people like you can't do that and i'm like whatever whatever but if he's going the same you're rather an homage if he's going the same speed as the plane and he jumps with the plane, how does that work? But he's also got the wind rocketing him against him, Mason. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But if you're inside the plane and you jump, you're still going the same speed as the plane because you're in that capsule. Does that make sense? Yes. When you jump in a plane, you don't fly and hit the back wall. I'm very hesitant to agree to any of this because I can't work it out fast enough in my head.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Do you think Hayden Christensen was in the Clone Wars or not, Mason? Yes. I don't like that. Hayden Christensen wasn't. No, he wasn't there. I knew it. That was a trick. I didn't mean to be, but yes.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Anyway, do you think this is going to be good is my question. They've really, I mean, it feels like they've really laid a lot of it on the table here like i feel like too much uncharted no but i i feel like there's not this trailer has sort of laid out exactly what this movie is going to be i don't feel like there will be really any surprises it's pretty much going to follow the plot of at least one of the games so if you're aware of that like i think three is the one with a bunch of, well, a few of them do, but it's got some keyed flashbacks and that also has the cargo plane in it. Is he falling out of multiple cargo planes?
Starting point is 00:29:12 Can't help himself, mate. He doesn't put his seatbelt on. It's not a requirement. But, you know, you don't want to put too many rules and regulations on things. No, that's true, yeah. It's just freedom. Let the market sort it out.
Starting point is 00:29:24 That's right. Let the market sort it out. That's right. Let the market of hanging around big bits of netted cargo and then you get dragged into the net and then you get pulled up onto a plane and then you get pushed out of the plane and you're like, ah, I've got to jump on this cargo. I think it could be like silly and big and fun though, honestly. Yeah, I think I guess. That's what I'm hoping for.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Like if the moments in between the set pieces, the action set pieces we must have and the stuff in the trailer, if that is good, sure. I saw a casting where someone was like they should have cast Jake Gyllenhaal as Nathan Drake and then Bryan Cranston as Sully and I'm like it's pretty good actually. Like that's a pretty good choice. I think they should have done Tom Holland as Nathan Drake
Starting point is 00:30:02 and Zendaya as Sully. That's good. That's even better. Because they're besties. That's even better and Zendaya as Sully. That's good. That's even better. Because they're besties. That's even better. They're besties and we're living for it. You're going to have to do the moustache though. It's giving me life.
Starting point is 00:30:11 It's got to be moustache though. It's got to be moustache time and very physical. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we'll find out when Uncharted comes out in, I want to say February, but I also don't want to commit to anything. Same.
Starting point is 00:30:24 You know what I mean? Yeah. That's the same with life. Always keep one foot out want to commit to anything. Same. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's the same with life. Always keep one foot out the door. Keep your options open. Always keep one foot out the cargo plane. Just in case. Just in case you need to.
Starting point is 00:30:33 That's right. This is why the GWW, who says, what's that short for? I'm not sure. I went to the website and that's just what it was called. Greg Pack and John Romita Jr., they did World War Hulk, I think. Anyway, apparently they're making a World War Hulk movie. Now, we sort of already did Planet Hulk in Ragnarok. When I first saw this, I'm like, didn't we do this?
Starting point is 00:30:54 No, World War Hulk's the follow-up one where the Hulk's like, I'm the fucking king of Earth. Come and get me. And then everybody does. Sure. And he's like, well, I've learned my lesson. That's the last line of the movie. That's right.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I'm saying it right now. It's going to be interesting. I'm going to be normal in the next movie, I promise. I've learned my lesson. It's going to be interesting to go from like Smart Hulk to this. He might still be smart. I guess he could be. Maybe smart and savage.
Starting point is 00:31:20 How else can you take over the world? But like glasses and a big throne. I don't know. I don't think you should be king. Goggles. Goggles, yeah. Steampunk grass goggles. Yeah, you got me.
Starting point is 00:31:28 World War I flying hat. The interesting thing about this is Marvel still don't have the solo rights to a Hulk film. Yeah. They are technically still with Universal. So are they going to try and sort of – They could call it a different thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:40 They just could call it World War – Smulk? Yeah, Smulk. Or just Hulk in really small lettering and that gets you around it they're just a lot of people are like we're gonna yeah they just call it world war yeah it's like it's like all the trailers are very misleading it's like oj just a lot of just a lot of sad widows at home in black and white and then you get in the movie and it's the hulk kicking a planet to the sun if it was me i'd call good stuff. And you get it in the movie and it's the Hulk kicking a planet
Starting point is 00:32:05 through the sun or whatever. If it was me, I'd call it World War and you do it like O.J. Simpson's book where he's like, I did it. If I did it. And then it's got if I did it or whatever. It's tiny writing. So you do World War. It's really small.
Starting point is 00:32:18 But you officially call it World War. And you make a billion dollars. Now, if this is true and they are going to call it World War Hulk. I'd call it World war and you make a billion dollars now if this is true and they are going to call it world war i'd call it world war bruce they're gonna if they are calling it world war hulk they're gonna have to strike a deal yeah of some description are they gonna make it and then see if they can kind of force it through i don't know in the course of public opinion i think they're past the point of doing a joint project with Universal.
Starting point is 00:32:46 It might be Paramount. One of those. Anyway, because they don't need to do that. And they could just bully them into doing it. Maybe they'll just buy whoever owns them. Exactly. Exactly. Otherwise, it's World War Bruce. I'm going by Bruce now.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I don't like going by labels anymore. I think Hulk's kind of rude, actually. Yeah. You call me that. It's not my name. I'm Bruce. Wait, did Hulk shout Hulk first or did people call him Hulk? Actually, technically my first name's Robert, so maybe World War Bob.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Is he? Is it? It's Robert Bruce Banner. Is it? Yeah. Oh, there you go. And in the TV series it was David Banner. I did know that, actually, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Anyway, delays but not dismays, Mason. Go on. So Doctor Strange has moved from March 20th, the next one, moved from March 25th, 2022 to May 6ay, Mason. Go on. So Doctor Strange has moved from March 20, the next one, moved from March 25, 2022 to May 6, 2022. This isn't a shipment of DVDs to your local JB Hi-Fi. They haven't delayed those. No, no, they're still hot and fresh. And so that's going from March to May of 2022.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Okay. That means Thor, Love of Thunder. That doesn't seem that long right now. No. But when it gets to March, I'll be like, I like movies. There was supposed to be a movie and now I'm seeing a different, I'm seeing Uncharted now. No. But when it gets to March, I'll be like, I like movies. I like seeing, there was supposed to be a movie, and now I'm seeing a different, I'm seeing Uncharted again.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Correct. That came out in February, maybe. Thor Love and Thunder is going from May to July of 2022. Black Panther 2 is going from July to November of 2022. Oh, that's a long one. The Marvels is going to, not really, is going from November to February of 2023. And Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania is going from February to July.
Starting point is 00:34:10 That's a long one, Mason. All the same amount of time. It's a little bad news at Disney, though, because Indiana Jones has moved from July 29th, 2022 to June 30th of 2023. They pushed it a year. You dog. He's going to be so old. He's going to be a million years old when that movie comes out. Well, sure.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah. I mean, they're filming it now. They're filming it now currently. Yeah. But that's a long time between drinks. Do you think that'll be part of the interview? People will be like, you're a lot older than when this movie was made. Aren't you a million years old now?
Starting point is 00:34:42 Yeah, I'm a million years old. Yeah, I'm a million years old. What's it do ya? They're making you do this. They're making you sit with me and do this and talk about how you're a million years old. How do you feel about that? And we're on a crashing plane. We're on a plane that's crashing down to the earth right now. What, they make us do this like
Starting point is 00:35:01 it's a fun stunt for Indiana Jones. We're gonna die. And he's like fun stunt for Indiana Jones. We're going to die. And he's like, I don't care. I dream of death these days. I'm Harrison Ford. I know it is. Anyway, so that's good, I guess. But that's a full year.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I also saw this week, like maybe it was like a promotional image or like maybe it was a tie-in image for Ms. Marvel. And she definitely had like the energy hand. Yeah, like the Green Lantern. Yeah, so I think they're definitely changing it. I think they might be doing a bit of both, I've heard. All right. Like a blending of the two.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Oh. I want a big rubber hand. Sure. But they're doing Mr. Fantastic and so I think that's what's happening here. Yeah, I think so too, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Sony Pictures have announced. He's just some rubber idiot, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:35:44 Just a rubber idiot. Sony Pictures announced announced. He's just some rubber idiot, isn't he? Just a rubber idiot. Sony Pictures announced the 2023 release dates, two of them, for mystery Marvel movies in June and October. So in the Spum universe. This is a journey into mystery, isn't it? It certainly is. What do you think it's going to be? I mean, a Venom.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It's going to be a Venom one. Yeah. What's the other one? And it can't be Kraven, right? Could be. It could be a black cat. Yeah. They announced some other things, didn't they, that were going to do?
Starting point is 00:36:06 I can tell you it's going to be disappointing, whatever it is. We haven't seen Venom 2. Maybe it's amazing it comes out. No, I just mean whatever they've got left in the tank is going to be disappointing. Yeah, okay. Maybe a Spider-Man Venom, one of them? I reckon that would be in this.
Starting point is 00:36:19 If they were saying, I reckon the tease would include maybe it's going to be a Spider-Man Venom. So I think it's something lower on that. I don't think they'd talk about what the next Spider-Man movie is until after this next one's out. Yeah, right. Because then they'd be like, what if he dies? What if he dies in this one?
Starting point is 00:36:35 What if he dies in this one? Guys, I think there's a rumor he's going to die in this one. He's not going to die. I think they're going to have one of their biggest money spinners of all time, though. They're going to kill him. They're going to kill him so they can't use him again in any more movies. I understand why they killed Robert Downey Jr.
Starting point is 00:36:48 and, like, Chris Evans, sort of, because, like, they've done a million movies. They've done a million movies, yeah. But Tom Holland is committed to it. He's barely done a hundred movies. He did Spider-Man. Yep. He did Uncharted.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He did that Mind Snake one. Yep. He did the one where he's got to rob some banks or whatever. Yep. He did the one where he's in a big flood with his mum. Mum flood? Mum flood the movie? He's busy. Yeah. He probably did a musical.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah, he did that dance, the Rihanna umbrella thing, yeah. Is that a full movie? Yeah, it was a full movie. I missed that one. Yeah, well, I mean, it wasn't, but then I cut it together and I sell it on Street Corners on a DVD. A DVD or a BCD? I mean, it wasn't, but then I cut it together and I sell it like on Street Corner. It's on a DVD. A DVD or a BCD?
Starting point is 00:37:27 I mean, whatever's cheapest that week and I can burn. Sure. But speaking of Spider-Man, there was a couple of images released just kind of close to when we recorded this. They must be gearing up for a trailer either this week or next week so we can scream at the Eternals, I'd imagine. It shows Spider-Man versus Dr. Octopus on the bridge, and Doc Oc's like chasing him down, like, I'm going to get you.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah. Just kill that man. If this doesn't get turned into a meme, here we go. Yeah, kill that man. Wonder what we're going to be labelled as for the next six months. I don't reckon those arms are like that attached to him. I reckon you could tear them right out of him. You could jump through him.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I think they're not that attached to him emotionally. I agree too. They're like, we're going to separate your arms, and they're like, whatever, we can take it a little bit. If you jump through the middle of him. You jump through him. I think they're not that attached to him emotionally. I agree too. They're like, we're going to separate your arms. And they're like, whatever, we can take it a little bit. If you jump through the middle of him, I reckon you'd just cut, like they'd clean, like detach. You know what I mean? If you just hit him.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I think his spine would come out. Yeah, that's fine. His body would remain. It doesn't matter. I'd be like, this dude's from another dimension. Does this count if I kill him? Does that count? I'd be a murderer on that dimension, but not in this dimension, right?
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah, I think so. I'd go to that dimension because I'd go to jail. I'd straight up kill him and I'd be a murderer on that dimension but not in this dimension, right? Yeah. I'm not going to go to that dimension because I'll go to jail. I'd straight up kill him and I'd be like, check his social security number, but it doesn't exist. Check mate, idiots. I'm Spider-Man. You can't send me to jail. I'll kill all of you.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I've got a kill mode. I'll kick you through that portal to another dimension where you don't exist really and I'll kill you in that dimension. And then the cops in that dimension won't be able to do nothing. I could fall asleep and switch on kill mode. Yeah. It'll kill everybody here that dimension. And then the cops in that dimension won't be able to do nothing. I could fall asleep and switch on kill mode. Yeah. It'll kill everybody here.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah. Technically not my fault. Yeah. Take it up with the Stark Corporation. Take it up with Stark Industries. I don't care. What I think's happening here though is running.
Starting point is 00:38:55 They'll just pay a fine. That means it's legal for the rich. What do you think about that? I think Doc Ock tears off his arms. His own arms. No, the extra Spider-Man arms. Oh, yeah, definitely. Why is he running?
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah, yeah. Because you'd see that as Spider-Man and go, that's not a problem. This regular man. Exactly. Just punch the regular man. Punch his spine right out. Anyway. John Watts, though, has said that this movie,
Starting point is 00:39:20 it's basically Spider-Man Endgame. He could die in this one, is my point. Definitely. Maybe he will. I mean, you know what? Miles Morales, they could replace him. It's too early. I know it is.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I think they could kill him just to bring him back in the next movie. Don't get me wrong. Or he has a heart attack and they bring him back. We were like, well, he technically died in that movie or whatever. Shut up if that happens. I know. Just shut up about it. My point is he's
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Starting point is 00:40:46 So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. It's finally time to talk about Dune 2021. Dune? Or is it Dune? I said it the same way both times. That's a good joke too. I think so as well, yeah. I've subverted expectations right there.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Like the movie Dune? Nope. It was where it was at, was it? I mean, you know, I liked it a lot but, you know, it's big and epic. I'm saying this like it's a negative but it's like, you know. I'm with you. I think it gave us exactly what we were expecting, which is a big, you know, a movie of huge scope that looks great.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yep. Good performances. Let's talk box office, though. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, and we will talk about the sequel that is absolutely necessary to this movie. Is that a spoiler, James? I mean, I think people know at this point. Dune Part 1.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah. So I think they learned from previous big epic movies directed Denis Villeneuve. Yep. It was like, I remember when some big time epic movies came out and then it went end of Part 1 right at the end and people were like, what? What? You've tricked me. Right here. And I'll never see a movie again.
Starting point is 00:42:02 You have robbed me of trust. This gives people the option to leave, you know, right up top and be like, I want my money back. Let's sit through another two and a half hours of this. Speaking of money, the US box office this weekend, as we mentioned, has already been out in fancy Europe. It's going to make between $30 and $35 million, which is pretty good considering they also dumped it on streaming early and it leaked, which makes me think, is this a deliberate sabotage?
Starting point is 00:42:28 Maybe, yeah. Because this movie costs so much. It also at this point raised about $70 million the world over. For charity? Something like that, yeah. I think it's about $130 million in total it will have made. How much did it cost? Probably $200 million, I'm guessing.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Yeah. I don't actually know. I don't have the numbers in front of me. How much is sand? What do you think? Well, I mean, you know, they would have saved. You've got to put some glittery things in it as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they would have saved a lot on like.
Starting point is 00:42:54 $165 million. That's a lie. No way. Yeah, they would have saved a lot on like that sea salt spray you put in your hair. Oh, yeah. Because everybody would have had, they wouldn't have needed it. That's a good point, actually. If you like Timothee Chalamet, he wouldn't have needed that for his waves and his hair,
Starting point is 00:43:05 but he doesn't need it. He's where it's at. Because he's in the salty sands. What I love about this is I go into it, I see a movie, and I say to myself, what do I think the story was? Oh, James. But luckily I have somebody to answer that question. Here we go, Dune Part 1.
Starting point is 00:43:18 All right, here we go. All right. There's a planet called Dune. Just kidding. It's called the planet Ararakis. Ararakis? What's interesting? Is that like Ararat? It's called Just kidding. It's called the planet Ararakis. Ararakis? What's interesting? Is that like Ararat?
Starting point is 00:43:26 It's called Ararat. It's like Ararat. This takes place. What would they call a town Ararat? I don't know. Real town in Victoria, by the way. This place takes place in the town of Ararat. It's very arid.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Hence the name. Also, what I do have to get used to with this movie is a lot of the things are not pronounced the way I've pronounced them in my head for a really long time. Also, not pronounced the way they are in other forms of Dune-based media. Wow. For example, Dune. Which Dunes have you seen prior to this? I've seen the 84 movie.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I don't think I have. I've seen very little of the… The miniseries? Miniseries with James McAvoy. Dune and then Sons of Dune. Yeah, and I've played the real-time strategy game. We know, Mason. You don't need to real-time strategy game. We know, Mason. You don't need to bring that up every time.
Starting point is 00:44:07 You do, actually. And I read the book. I read the first novel when I was in high school. Part one? Part one and two. What? But it was quite a slog and I'd forgotten almost all of it. But in watching this movie, I felt I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:20 oh, I remember all the concepts here. I wonder if going into this, had I not read it many years ago, I would have been very confused. That's a great question. But anyway, the plot is we're in the planet Ararat and that's where you get the spice. Everybody loves the spice. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:44:34 They need it in their lattes and so forth. Typical millennials. And space travel also. That's true, yeah. You need that spice and there's a – Maybe if you didn't put so much spice in your spaceships, you'd be able to afford a house. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:44:46 You know what I mean? You're going to cut out the little things in your life, like interstellar travel. Dune 2, avocado toast. Anyway, so go on. So there's a big planet. There's a big planet full of spice and it used to be – this planet of big bald weirdos called the Harkonnen.
Starting point is 00:45:02 They used to harvest the spice for the emperor and then they got big rich. I think you could also make the comparison between the Helghast and the Killzone video game. Some people might be like, I'm not familiar with Dune, but I've played all the Killzone games, so I'm just here for those people.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That's me, by the way. Did they play any of the Killzone games on the PlayStation Vita? Well, look, that's a great first-person shooter called Killzone Mercenary. It's one of the best handheld first-person shooters you can get. But anyway, go on. Anyway, they got big-time rich off it.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But then the Emperor's like, get out, get out, get off, get off Planet Juno. Go to bed. Go to bed with all your Planet Juno. You're all hopped up on Spice. You're running around. You're having tantrums. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Go to bed. They're going to bring in House Atreies and they're going to go in there and they're going to sort out the spice. They've also got a good look to them. You know what I mean? They don't look so aggressive. They don't look so weird. You're all aggressively bald weirdos with your weird black gooey armor
Starting point is 00:45:57 and whatever's going on and your bars filled with oil and your weird light-up spines. That's right. They're normal. Just some normal people. Yeah. Handsome-up spines. That's right. We don't like you. They're normal. Yeah. Just some normal people. Yeah. Handsome too.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Normal names. Paul. Yep. Good normal name. Duncan. Duncan. Good name. Like the liquor store you might have in Ararat, Duncan's.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Duncan, that's right. That's what it's named after, the character from Dune. Yeah. Duncan's, if you don't know, like you said, it's a liquor store and the logo is a man crossing his arms. He's looking at you like, you're a drunk, get in here. Fucking get in here. Yeah, no judgment over here.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I'm also a drunk. I don't care. I don't mind. But anyway, Paul. Paul is the son of Duke Atreides. Yep. And he's like, I'm going to go to Dune. It's going to be sick.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I've been having dreams about Dune. Yeah. What's sick. I've been having dreams about Dune. Yeah. What's going to happen? Are these dreams going to come true on Dune? Am I going to get a kiss from a girl? I'm excited. Is there going to be violence and intrigue and murder? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah. Hopefully the kisses, I reckon. And so he does go to the planet Dune. He goes to the planet Dune. And he's like, this is interesting. This is an interesting time. This is sandier than I thought it would be, to be honest. I've got sand in all my crevices.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Can I have some water? Can I have a cup of water? Yeah. I thought it was just one dude. I didn't realise the whole thing was a dude. I turned the taps on to get some water. I wanted to run a bit. Just run it until it's hot.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Until it's cold. Until it's cold. But then everybody got mad at me. They said he'd used 100 years get some water. I wanted to run it a bit. Just run it until it's hot. Until it's cold. Until it's cold. But then everybody got mad at me. They said he used 100 years' worth of water just now. I don't understand it. Anyway, for me, I'm not an expert on Dune. I've poured all my time into anime. People know that.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Yes, that's true. So a lot of this is new and new concepts. Obviously, they've also been recycled in everything since then. Well, it's very interesting. I feel like even some of the items in this movie are very deliberate. They're nods to, say, a Star Wars, but also they seem almost there as bait for people to go, looks like you ripped off Star Wars here. And then another group of nerds to be like,
Starting point is 00:48:07 I think you'll find that Star Wars ripped off dude. Like there's the big sand crawler shaped devices that people will be like, Jar was much. Jar was much. So that just happened. Also sand, you know, Star Wars and sand. But I didn't, like there were things in this where I'm like, I feel like there's more context to this that I don't have.
Starting point is 00:48:27 But I get it. Yeah. And as someone who, again, doesn't know anything about Dune, I thoroughly enjoyed this. I thought it was terrific. Also, I had to watch it at home, but I laptopped and phoned away. Same. Which really helped me out on this because I think if I had
Starting point is 00:48:43 watched this with like one eye like I normally watch most things, I wish I had have seen this in cinemas. I'll probably see it on IMAX when it comes out here. Often I'm like, I don't care, I don't need to say it and whatever. But this, I feel like even the sound design and everything and just watching it on a TV. I did phone off, lights out, shutters down, bowl of popcorn. Go to bed, have a nap.
Starting point is 00:49:05 That's right. Lay the popcorn next to me. Just drift off to that beautiful buttery aroma. But, yeah, I think you're right. Like it does what I think it does a really good job of. I mean it had to strip out, you know, obviously hundreds of pages of this, of the original novel and like. But it's still half the book.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Yeah, but it sort of it original novel. But it's still half the book. Yeah, but it's sort of, it's very good at, it's sort of stripped a lot of the plot down to like the bare bones of what the book is. Yeah. But it's very good at not making you go, oh, they've cut this down to nothing. Like, you know, something that would get a full chapter gets a couple of lines of dialogue or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:42 But you don't go, oh, well, now it doesn't make any sense kind of thing. Apparently Denis Villeneuve also wanted to not put in an inner monologue, which you could easily go and go like, I'm from this family and, you know, in this world this is how everything works and whatever, which fine, that can work. But there's a lot of like implied stuff which goes on there, which I much preferred because you kind of – it's kind of – it's like a – it sounds ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I sound like a wanker. But it's like experience the world, you know what I mean, as opposed to like them telling you what it is. Like an avatar. Like exactly like the movie Avatar, The Last Airbender. It's a good movie. The live action one. But there were some things that I'm like a little unsure of.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Okay. So this is a minor spoiler, but we'll do spoilers later, but there's a galactic emperor of sorts that we don't see. Correct. Who's for some reason pitting these two houses against each other. Yes. And like I have like an idea of what that's probably, like, the means to an end and whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:49 But they don't, like, there's things I'm like, I bet that's explained a lot more in the book. Sure, yes. You know what I mean? And things like that. And I'm thinking I might read this boring book that everybody loves but also says is boring. And by that I mean listen to it on audiobook.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yeah. So I can get the soundscapes. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, sure. They're going to put soundscapes in the book, right? Yeah, like sand and crabs and stuff. That's all I need, mate. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:11 That's all I need. Great cast. Everyone's really good in it. Timothy, Sharla, May, Zendaya, Rebecca Ferguson, who I didn't know was in this, and also gets a lot of play as like what I thought was good about this is like this is a dude just hanging out with his mum. Sure.
Starting point is 00:51:24 You don't really see that. I thought that was like a cool pairing that they did. Yeah, right. And she's a witch or good about this is like, this is a dude just hanging out with his mum. Sure. You don't really see that. I thought that was like a cool pairing that they did. Yeah, right. And she's a witch or something and he's like, I hate prophecies, but I love, I'm having so many. David Dastmalchian's in this for a minute. Yeah. Looking good.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Actually, no. We're bald. He looks terrible in this. Awful. That's the point. Just Oscar Isaacs and Stellan Skarsgård as the guy who – He's looking great. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Weird and bald. Well, it's not just that. There's like a slovenly nature to him. He's got – He's a real jab of the heart. Yeah, he is a bit like that, isn't he? He's got a super-powered spine and he can fly and stuff and whatever. And his super strength maybe?
Starting point is 00:51:59 I don't know. But the makeup on him, my God. Yeah. That's incredible. Very impressive. And I just remember because I've seen like, I think I've watched reviews of the 84 one where like it's just a man covered in boils, just like bleh.
Starting point is 00:52:11 You know what I mean? It's like there's nothing intimidating about that guy. But this, like him, very spooky and strange and I don't like him, which I think was the point. I think I don't think he's the main character. I'm pretty confident. To some he's the main character. There's some confident. To some, he's the main character. There's some people out there going,
Starting point is 00:52:26 God, come on, Harkonnens, here we go. It's big, though, as well. It's big. It's big and it's bold and people are like, this is what you should do, no CGI, real things. It seems like a lot of this is actually CGI, actually. When you look at it. When you look at all those flying ships.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It makes me go, hmm. The sandworm, the big sandworm. I know they did build like a real thopter yeah and they cloned the little sand rats did they yeah they're real they made them like they look like a real they created life yeah created life for this movie that they killed them all right yeah you can't have them get now yeah you know they flame thrower they killed them all with a flame thrower good but like there's so much like there's like big stone rooms and like odd military craft and like clothing and armor but it's really like shaped in interesting ways i wonder and i shouldn't i
Starting point is 00:53:11 should have looked this up beforehand but does denis villeneuve have the same production designer for all his movies because i felt like especially because they have the blade runner yeah like the blade there was a there was the the ornithopters which are the sort of the uh the insect like helicopters that they use on this planet especially the interiors felt very similar to like the There was the ornithopters, which are the sort of the insect-like helicopters that they use on this planet. Especially the interiors felt very similar to like the hover car situations in Blade Runner 2049. Dave Bautista's also in this.
Starting point is 00:53:36 That's true. Weird and bald. He's loving life. Yeah, but I think there's a key element of this is there's a prophecy of somebody who's going to like save or destroy the universe. More the save part, yes. Yeah, but somewhere in between. But maybe he's just going to like scorch to earth everything
Starting point is 00:53:52 that came before. You know what I mean? Sure. And I feel like it's interesting that basically Timothee Chalamet's mother has like forced this prophecy like into action or tried to create this boy intentionally and he's like, why did you do this? Sure, right.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And I think that's a really interesting idea of not like, oh, he was chosen and whatever and it just happened by the will of the gods or whatever. She's like, no, I did this. Well, so the sect that she belongs to, the Bene Gesserit, they want to create this being and so their plan was originally that they have sort of. They have a few on the fly, don't they?
Starting point is 00:54:30 They've got a bunch of plans on the boil. So their plan for like the last hundreds of years was to manipulate the two big houses to produce, each one was going to produce the precursor to this being. So Harkonnen was going to have a prince and Atreides was going to produce the precursor to this being. So Harkonnen was going to have a prince and Atreides was going to have a princess or a female and then they were going to get them together and was going to join the two houses and then they were going to have this superior being
Starting point is 00:54:56 that was going to save the universe. Yeah. But she, instead of having a daughter, she decides to have a son, which apparently you can do in the year 10,000. Cool. And that ruined everything. Oh, no. Yeah, right? Who was she supposed to kiss a son, which apparently you can do in the year 10,000. Cool. And that ruined everything. Oh, no. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:55:07 Who was she supposed to kiss? Dave Bautista, nephew? Yeah, Dave Bautista nephew. It's a good outcome, I think. Yeah, right? You can still go with that, I reckon. Yeah. You can make it work.
Starting point is 00:55:17 You can make it work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But what I loved about this is like, and also I love that that prophecy also, it's implied that maybe this is bad, what we've done. Sure. Maybe it's crook what we've done here.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah. But I thought that was cool. And I love the weird little details like the sand walking to avoid the big sand. I was going to say that. That odd little shuffle. Another thing that June influenced, of course, was Monty Python's Ministry of Silly Walks.
Starting point is 00:55:48 That weird box of pain you put your hand in and it makes you think you're on fire and in pain or whatever. And just like you can mind control people with your voice and there's a poop suit. And by that I mean a suit that you wear that it takes everything that your body expresses and recycles it so you can drink it. I don't know if the poop is part of that. I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:56:07 It's part of it. You can poop in that suit, Mason. Wow, okay, wow. That's what they should call the poop suit because I think that's the key thing. Don't you think? It's the main element of that suit. I don't think so, no.
Starting point is 00:56:17 That would be the most work that would have to go into the poop part of it, I reckon. I guess probably, yeah. Is what I'm saying. I think it probably just has one of those old school like night dress hatches on the back. Oh, yeah. Is what I'm saying. I think it probably just has one of those old school, like night dress hatches on the back. Oh, okay. No, they said a thimble.
Starting point is 00:56:29 It wastes a thimble of liquid every day. Yeah, right. So it's recycling poop. It's a poop suit. Terrific. Looks good, that poop suit, though. It looks like it's made of tires or something. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Good stuff. Should we do some spoilers? I guess so. What else? It looks great. Or does it? I feel like there's not as – I feel like the visuals, even though this is much bigger in scope, I sort of feel like maybe they're –
Starting point is 00:56:55 and maybe it'll take me to see it in IMAX to make this decision, but I feel like there wasn't as many kind of incredible visuals as, say, Blade Runner 2049. I'm thinking specifically of the desert scene where they go out to that sort of, you know, and I mean the desert, every scene in Dune is a desert scene. But the desert scene in Blade Runner 2049 when, you know, the entire world is orange basically.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Yeah. I think maybe it's because there's not really supposed to be anything out there. Yeah, like maybe it's because like Blade Runner 2049 maybe is just more of a world of contrasts because we had that desert sequence and then we have this, you know, the city scenes and like we go out into that weird agricultural farming zone and all that sort of stuff and they feel
Starting point is 00:57:38 like very distinct whereas Dune is more just kind of all desert all the time. Yeah. But still look really nice. Yeah, the good sand dunes and that big worm all desert all the time. Yeah. But still looked really nice. Yeah, the good sand dunes. And that big worm when it's coming up. Sure. Because that's a silly looking worm.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Like in prior things that I've seen. Yeah, yeah. Just a man standing on top of it just like running like it's a horse. And it's going. Yeah. And he's like, whoa there. Whoa, we're on the planet Dune. Take it easy.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Take it easy. Yeah. Anyway, let's just do some spoilers. Whoa, we're on the planet Dune. Take it easy. Take it easy. Anyway, let's just do some spoilers. Okay, I was going to say, yeah. I think I saw somebody on Twitter say one of the strengths of this movie is it just lets Jason Momoa be Jason Momoa. Like you get a good – if you want to get a good performance out of Jason Momoa or like you just go on set and you just watch Jason Momoa be himself and most directors are just like, ah!
Starting point is 00:58:26 He's always running in and picking you up or something. And most directors are just like, no, let's just go with that actually. I think that's good. He's good. Apparently I remember reading an interview for him. He went to the director. He was like, do I need apps for this or whatever? And he's like, nah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:39 So you can see in this, and I don't mean this as a bad way. He's like shaved the beard. He's just like a normal man. He's a normal the beard. He's just like- A normal man? He's a normal man. I think that totally works for that character as well. It's just like, yeah, I'm just a knockabout dude. I'm Han Solo. I'm actually based off Han Solo.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I'm pooping in this suit, he says. And I'm loving it. I'm loving how much poop I'm getting in this suit. I'm not even recycling it. I'm just storing it up like a dirty nappy. Oh, dear. Anyway, best movie ever. Spoilers. Yeah, I'll say best movie ever. It's good fun time. I'm looking forward to seeing it in Oh, dear. Anyway, best movie ever. Spoilers.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah, I'll say best movie ever. It's good fun time. I'm looking forward to seeing it in IMAX. Also, it's slow, I guess, if you like. It's two and a half-ish hours. Yeah, and it's quite. I also watched it over two nights. So to me it felt like a mini-series. And when it ended, I'm like, I'm going to have to wait four years
Starting point is 00:59:19 if they make another one of these. Yeah, if they make another one. Which we'll talk about. Anyway, so I guess one of the things up top is it's a betrayal. It's a big betrayal on planet Dune. It is. Betrayal on planet Dune. So the Emperor did this because he wants to get rid of,
Starting point is 00:59:34 presumably because this is the prophecy and whatever, so he's like if I kill these dudes then they're not going to send like an heir to come and kill me or whatever. Yes. Is that part of it, I assume? I'd say so, yeah. I don't know. I'm guessing.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I haven't seen the second part of Dune because I haven't made it. Yeah, but also I think just because, yeah, it's that and I think just because, you know, people see House Atreides as kind of like this, they're the golden boy kind of thing. Who is this emperor person though? He's just, I think he's just. Is he magic or something? No, he's just regular. He's just regular? Yeah,'s just, he's just. Is he magic or something? No, he's just regular.
Starting point is 01:00:07 He's just regular? Yeah, yeah. Does he float? Does he have a floating spine or whatever? No, I don't think so. He's just regular as far as I can remember. Is he old? Is he young?
Starting point is 01:00:13 Does he have a kid? I think he might be, because I think also Warhammer 40,000 is also heavily based on some of the elements of Dune. So I think he might be in like one of those golden sarcophagus kind of things. Yeah, sick. I'm going to look it up real quick. So he's like old? Yeah. And he's in a golden sarcophagus kind of things. Yeah, sick. I'm going to look it up real quick. So he's like old? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:25 And he's in a golden sarcophagus? I'm guessing probably. God, that'd suck. I mean, it's gold, but like who cares? You know what I mean? I'd rather – give me the spine. Give me the magic floating spine that stops me from getting poisoned because I can float up to the roof like a bat or something.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Let's see. The Emperor is the title of the Hereditary rulers of the Imperium. Yep. In the known universe. Oh, yeah. That's interesting. Okay. The title of Padishah Emperor was taken by the head of House Corino
Starting point is 01:00:54 after the Battle of Corin. I remember that one. It was used by the head of that house for more than 10,000 years. Okay. All right. So it's a big armor, is it? No, he just has a throne. Great.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Yeah. They're going to give him a weird. Yeah, it looks to me like. They're going to give him a weird. Yeah, it looks to me like. They're going to give him a weird thing? He looks just like a regular guy, to be honest. How old? Regular age. Regular age?
Starting point is 01:01:12 But here's the thing, though. The spice also, it increases your lifespan. So maybe he's quite old. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. They didn't say that in the movie, did you? No, they didn't. It's true.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yep. I just caught the blue eyed thing. And maybe it's a hallucinogen or something. Great stuff. So Oscar Isaac gets murdered, but in the process of being murdered, he's given a gas tooth. The current emperor has been the emperor for like 70 years. That's a long time.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah. But not crazy long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, good. So, yeah, yeah. Okay, good. Sorry, yeah, as I was saying, Oscar Isaac is betrayed, but he's given a tooth, a murder tooth. Yeah, yeah. He's like, ha, gotcha.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yeah. It's not bad breath, it's poison. Yeah, nice. Just to be clear, because you're dying. I don't want you to think you're dying because of my bad breath. I've done excellent dental hygiene. Hygiene. That was good.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Jason Momoa is dead as well. Though might come back as a different thing. Yeah. By a bit of hair. Yeah, Duncan Idaho. Is a clone or something. Repeatedly, yeah. They keep bringing him back.
Starting point is 01:02:16 But has he got his memories? No, I don't think so. Oh, so he's not as jovial? I think he's not as... I think he keeps his memories up until the cloning. Okay. So he'll have... Some of them. So he might not have all his Dune memories. That's right a that. I think he keeps his memories up until the cloning. Okay. So he'll have some of them. So he might not have all his Dune memories.
Starting point is 01:02:27 That's right. Great. So he didn't remember the movie Dune. No, no, no. Okay. Yeah, I love the bit where, you know, so the doctor who betrayed House Atreides. Doctor who?
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yes. Who has like the diamond on his head and whatever. Yeah, yeah. And he's like touching people and being like, you've got bad vibes. He's one of those doctors, I think. A real doctor bad vibes yeah, and I just totally saw this coming when he's like
Starting point is 01:02:50 you said that you'd free my wife if I betrayed the house or whatever, and he's like I said I'd set your wife free I would have like, he would have said that to me initially and I would have been like I want you to specifically say you're not going to kill your wife and then kill my wife and then me if you want to make one of these agreements you have
Starting point is 01:03:07 to use wish master rules you have to be like i would like you to release my wife unharmed yeah oh unarmed you say no i mean he would have killed him anyway yeah yeah yeah regardless of of the wording yeah oh he does recover his memories eventually. Great. Yeah. I didn't read that book. Which one was it? Anything after the first one.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Wow. How many are there? 100, he says. No, there's not that many. He wrote the word 100 in the air. No. But not like 100. He wrote 100 in full.
Starting point is 01:03:41 There's not that many. No, he's underlining it. No, stop it. I reckon there's also Frank Herbert who wrote the original. He wrote a few and then I think his son wrote some sequels after he died. Are they still doing them? I don't think so. Are they still dune-ing them?
Starting point is 01:03:54 I meant to say. They're not still dune-ing them, no. Okay, interesting. Yeah. They're dune with the whole thing. Are they? Yeah. Is it one and dune?
Starting point is 01:04:02 It's one and dune. As the saying goes. Yeah, that's right. What else, Mason? So there one and dune as the saying goes yeah that's right what else Mason? so there's a stab fight at the end there sure is and then you can ride a worm
Starting point is 01:04:12 have you seen the original like the 80s version of that force field? yeah I had that box yeah I don't mind it as a design
Starting point is 01:04:18 I only saw it fairly recently yeah no I think it's an interesting concept I also think those force fields do jack shit I'm like how come you can sometimes stab with these and sometimes you can't yeah that's a great question do you get close fairly recently. Yeah, no, I think it's an interesting concept. I also think those force fields do jack shit. I'm like, how come you can sometimes stab with this and sometimes you can't?
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah, that's a great question. Do you get close and then slowly stab someone? Let's look it up, James. Let's look up Dune force fields. That seems to be the case. Yeah. I'd just go full force field. Well, I think that the, I suspect the original idea behind it is,
Starting point is 01:04:41 and the reason none of them seem to have any guns, is the idea was explain why they're always sword fighting. Yeah. And the reason would be, okay, well, everybody has a personal force field that deflates bullets and lasers and whatever. Or you can fire like a weird bug bullet. You can fire a bug bullet if you want to. Why doesn't everyone just fire bug bullets?
Starting point is 01:04:58 Well, because your shield would stop a bug bullet. But it doesn't. No, but that's why Paul goes to his force That's why he goes to grab his force field. Wasn't Oscar Isaac wearing a bug bullet when he got shot? Yes. But it kind of drilled into him for a while. And that was a dart more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like a... Fair enough. Anyway, what have we got here on these force fields?
Starting point is 01:05:16 What are they called? I bet they've got a dumb name. They're called... Sometimes they're called Holtzman Shields. Oh yeah, that's actually not a dumb name. I'm assuming named after the character from Ghostbusters reboot. No? Yeah, really? Not after Harold Holtzman Shields. Oh, yeah, that's actually not a dumb name. I'm assuming named after the character from Ghostbusters reboot. No? Yeah, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Not after Harold Holt, the former Prime Minister. Who drowned because he wasn't wearing a force field. Wasn't wearing a force field and hence they invented the force field. Interesting. That's why all Australians have force fields now. I think he was wearing one but water got in and filled up his force field. Oh, my God, if he wasn't wearing that force field, he wouldn't have drowned.
Starting point is 01:05:45 He drowned in one inch of force field water. We just love laughing about that Prime Minister who disappeared and they never found the body. James, I would laugh about any Prime Minister who drowned. Anyone at all. Go on, sorry. Okay, all right. So the shield was produced by a Holtzman generator
Starting point is 01:06:00 named after Harold Holtz. Shields can be calibrated to permit the passage of matter below given speeds. Okay. This is vital in personal defence shields as one would suffocate within a shield that did not emit atmospheric gases. Okay. That totally makes sense.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Okay. Depending on the shield's setting, the object's speed while passing through the shield would range from six to nine centimetres per second. Shield could also be set to cover either the left or right side of a person if the specific need for it arose. Oh, if it was like a super strong thing coming in hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Such a practice, everybody's wearing the shield, such a
Starting point is 01:06:31 practice made the use of projectile weapons and thrown blades partly obsolete. That makes sense to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool, because you do need a reason for like, why doesn't everyone have guns? The only effect, this is about the books, but the only effect of combat method was the deft use and careful precision of a handheld dagger if moved slowly enough. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:47 New styles of fencing and knife fighting were developed to take advantage of this one small vulnerability. So I guess what they're doing is they're like... They're getting close and then they slowly stab. Yeah, yeah. But you can do it in like a swift manoeuvre. Yes. Because Jason Momoa's doing a shit ton of that, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:07:00 He sure is, yeah. God, that guy. Just going in red hot, you know what I mean? No, I know it. Yeah, good stuff. So, yeah, they have a bit of a stab fight at the end, don't they? Also, it seems to be if you shoot somebody with a force field with a laser, just everything explodes.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Oh. So it's a bad time for everything. Everything in the room? Yeah, everything in the room. Including the person wearing the force field? It just says here, using lasguns in a shielded environment results in military and environmental catastrophe.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Sick. That'd be awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd do that. Plus you can't use them on Dune because of the sandworms, obviously. The what? You can't use them outside because of the sandworms. But if you can stand on a rock and do it.
Starting point is 01:07:37 You can stand on a rock, I guess. It seems like people just can do that. You stand on a rock and that worm's not coming off. God, I would last one second on the planet Dune because I'd forget all the rules. Yeah. I'd be like, can I use a shield outside or not outside? What about this different types of sand?
Starting point is 01:07:50 I wouldn't recognise the correct types of sand. That's true, though. What different types of sand? So, yeah, so it culminates in just like in a sword fight. Yes. Where they're like, Timothy Charlemagne, you're fucked, mate. You're going to get stabbed and then your mum's going to cry or whatever. But he's coming in with his own moves.
Starting point is 01:08:07 That's right. But he'd never killed a man before. Then he was like, you know what? I think it's time. I think it's time to kill this man in particular. That's right. Because of honour or something. Time to lose my M plates.
Starting point is 01:08:19 M stands for murder. Yeah, that's right. It's hot stuff. That's right. And then he looks at someone riding a worm and he goes, ooh, this is going to be a good sequel for me, I reckon. Yeah. Coming up next, everybody. Stay tuned.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Ooh. I did that for like four minutes or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mostly silently. Mostly silently. I thought it was interesting that his, that Paul's, his visions are not necessarily accurate. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:47 They're thematically accurate maybe. Sure, okay. But they're not. Or it's like potential futures even, some of them? Yeah, maybe, but they're never literally accurate. Like he meets, the guy he kills in the duel, he first sees in his vision where the guy's like, oh, we're going to be good friends and I'm going to teach you
Starting point is 01:09:03 some cool lessons or whatever. And then he murders the guy. So technically he has taught him a lesson. I thought that maybe could have been seeing it through a different person's eyes. Oh, maybe Zendaya's eyes. Yeah, but I don't know. I honestly don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's why he was reluctant to kill that dude. Maybe he comes back as a clone man. Maybe. Or he's just nobody and whatever. Yeah, that's right. And what's his name in it?
Starting point is 01:09:24 The leader of the sand people or whatever. What's his name don't know he's spitting on tables oh yeah yeah oh um javier bardem yeah is josh brolin dead did he die the actor yeah no he's still alive in this movie did he die i don't think we see him die or maybe we do maybe it's a very maybe maybe my brain has decided even if I put my phone down and pay full attention to a movie, it's going to black me out every couple of minutes. So I missed something important. You might actually be right.
Starting point is 01:09:52 I took full disclosure. I was on my phone the whole time. I learned this week that if you hold your phone in a certain way, you're putting intense pressure on your ulnar nerve in your arm. Oh, yeah. So now I'm really conscious about it. If you put your little pinky finger under your phone like this. It's a better way to do it, is it?
Starting point is 01:10:11 No, that's the wrong way to do it. This is what I do. I don't know. Hold it like this. Wait, I'm not holding my phone with my little finger. Yeah. Is that fine? No, that should be fine.
Starting point is 01:10:19 What you're doing is fine. Maybe I am doing it. See? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe I hold it like this. Hold it the most awkward way. Yeah, like that, above your head. Like I'm doing a strongman pose.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yes. Yeah, that's good. So continue to do what you always do, strongman poses. How do I hold a phone? I don't know. Now you've got me thinking. See? Text me during the week and say, when you're reading this,
Starting point is 01:10:40 how are you holding your phone? And then I'll know. You'll get me. But that might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. You pick up your phone and you're like, how am I holding the? How am I holding the? Your arm splinters into fragments. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:55 So anyway, they should have definitely filmed two of these together at the same time. Yep. That would have cut costs immeasurably. They're going to have to fly everybody out to the desert again. They're going to have to put the sand back. They're going to have to fly everybody out to the desert again. They're going to have to put the sand back. They're going to have to rake it all back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Push it all out there. With those big rakes from... Spaceballs. Spaceballs, thank you. The big combs. Yeah. So that's a big mistake, I feel, if they are going forward with this because Warner Media CEO Anne Sarnoff said, will we have a sequel to Dune?
Starting point is 01:11:27 If you watch the movie, you will see how it ends. I think you pretty much know the answer to that. And also the director has said it's going to be all-out action, which I think it has to be from what I remember of seeing a review of the Dune from 84. Just people doing all sorts of sandworm shit or whatever. Yeah, and just nude knife fights and stuff. Is there a nude knife fight in it?
Starting point is 01:11:48 It's nudish. Who's Sting? He's a famous musician. He's one of the suspects in the TV series Only Murders in the Building. Oh, yeah. Is he the Dave Bautista character? Yes. The nephew?
Starting point is 01:11:59 Yes. Sexy Sting? Yeah, I'd have to check. Is that why Dave Bautista is credited as Sexy Sting? That's exactly right, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Very good.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Dave Bautista has a lot of crinkles on the top of his head. Disagree. Like creases. I think he's very smooth. Intensely smooth, man. I'll just tell you. I don't know, maybe it was a makeup effect in this movie. No, Sting is a different guy.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Then who's the, who do you think? Wait, maybe he is. Hang on. He's Freed Ralfa. Okay. Is that Dave Bautista's character's name, though? maybe he is. Hang on. He's Freed Ralfa. Okay. Is that Dave Bautista's character's name, though? I don't. Oh, let me take the Dune cast.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Please do. No, he plays Glossu Rab something. Oh, Glossu Rab something. Yeah. So who's Sting? I'm the new one. Who's Sting? Oh, who's playing the Sting character?
Starting point is 01:12:40 I don't know. I don't know. He's a nude man or whatever. All right, let me check. You know who has the Josh Brolin role whatever. All right, let me check. Fade. You know, he has the Josh Brolin role in the original. Yeah. Patrick Stewart.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Oh, yeah, I did know that actually. Who is Fade? He's the nephew of, it says Fade was the young nephew of Baron, whatever. Oh, then he is. But that's what he was. But is he in Dune? He's not shown or even mentioned in D dune 2021 this covers the first half of the book where he's only a minor role so he's going to come into the next movie so they're
Starting point is 01:13:11 going to get sting probably they have to get sting they're going to get sting they have to get sting and if they can't get sting gunpoint you got to get sting at gunpoint i'm sorry yeah yeah you signed a contract many years ago sting yeah you. Yeah. You're in this for life. Anyway, you also saw an article from a website that's like, Dune's going ahead. We've got an exclusive or whatever. Yeah, but it was on one of those clickbait sites. Yeah, because you can just say that. We've got an insider who's going to.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And then if they're correct, then the next time they're like, as we correctly reported, Dune's coming back. We're actually also, Dune is being cancelled. Yes. I feel like, though, even if this won't make all its money back, they're going to push ahead with it anyway. Because sometimes you just do a big epic and whatever. That's true.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Do you know what I mean? We make art films too. It's one of those we make art films too movies. Yeah, right, right. But I think, though, it's got the cast. We're bringing back Zeppelins. Yes. But it's got, like, the cast of, it seems to be like moving
Starting point is 01:14:07 into the zeitgeist. Sure. So I think if it can stay that way, then there's definite potential here for this to become a bigger thing. Does it feel to you like it felt a little bit Game of Thrones-y in the sense that it's like, okay, this is high and mighty, but also I think people, and of course it's got that to Timothee Chalamet and Zendaya and their besties,
Starting point is 01:14:33 and we are living for it. We totally are. I know I am. Anyway, we'll see. We'll see what happens. It was good. And I don't know. I like watching it.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Yeah, nice. Great. You like watching it? I liked watching it, Yeah, nice. Great. You like watching it? I liked watching it, yes. Okay. Is it time for the next segment of the show? Yes. What would you say that segment is called?
Starting point is 01:14:50 That segment is called What We Readin'. Yep. What We Gonna Read. It's interesting that you remember the name of the segment. I know. It's really compelling to me. I'm just looking for the segment. Okay, here it is.
Starting point is 01:15:02 I'm doing the thing. Westworld. Very nice. Bit of Westworld in this as well, I guess. How so? I mean, you know, in Dune. In Dune, the movie Dune. Yeah, it's sci-fi or whatever.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeah. Claire came in. We're still in the spoilers for Dune and then we'll move on. Okay, terrific. Claire came in at the end where they were doing the knife fight. Yeah, yeah. And Claire's like, is he a robot? And I'm like, we're too far into the movie Dune for me to explain
Starting point is 01:15:30 why that man's wearing a poop suit. Okay. Why he's dressed like Edward Scissorhands and fighting this man. Yeah, yeah. We're too close to the end. I can't tell you what's going on here. She really jumped in right at the end there. Yeah, because we were watching it.
Starting point is 01:15:45 I was in a different room. Sure. So anyway. What are you reading? This week I read Superman and the Authority. Did you? I've read that like years ago and seen the movie. Oh, wait, there's a new one.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I'm thinking of the one. You're thinking of Superman versus the Elite. This is Superman and the Authority, but they are tied together. I bought the first one, but anyway, go on. So this is a four-issue miniseries, which might be tied into the larger DC universe, but it might not. Oh, wow. I was not entirely sure for the entire run of it,
Starting point is 01:16:14 but it's basically Superman. He's getting on in years. He's sort of depowered. He's losing his powers. Are you worried about that? I am worried about it, but he's got to get a team together that are going to face some big-time threats after he's gone. So he's going to form together the Authority,
Starting point is 01:16:32 which used to be an Image Wildstorm team. Oh, okay, I didn't know that. But then they got purchased by DC. Yeah, right. And it includes some of the original Authority. It includes a couple of members of the Elite, which is the team from back in the day. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And it's by Graham Morrison and they've been doing all sorts of big time, big idea kind of stuff. It's a lot of fun. Superman's got a new suit. What did you think of it though? I liked it. I thought it was fun. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:16:58 Superman's got a new suit. Should I get it? Yeah, I think you should get it. Every now and then does he bust out some powers? He's like, I've still got it. He's not powerless. Yeah. He can still lift a big weight in the Fortress of Solitude.
Starting point is 01:17:09 And somebody's like, that weighs 600 billion tons. Why are you doing that? He's like, well, I used to be 605 tons. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:20 So should I read it? I think you should read it. I do have the first one. It's only four issues. It's a bit of fun. Four issues? Yeah. What am I, made of time and it? I think you should read it. I do have the first one. It's only four issues. It's a bit of fun. Four issues? Yeah. What am I, made of time and money?
Starting point is 01:17:28 Yeah. No, Mason, I'm not. They call you Mr. Money Time Man. They call you the Money Time Man. He's calling me that. I like that. Your suit's covered in dollar bills and clocks. Is it?
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yeah. I like this version of me. Sounds like he knows what's going on. And your face is a big melted pumpkin. Why am I a pumpkin? You made the suit, man. Did I? Yep. You had unlimited money and time
Starting point is 01:17:53 and this is the best you could come up with. I'm wearing a pumpkin. It's not my face. No, you've had your face. You've had plastic surgery, so your face looks like a big melted pumpkin. Feels normal. Is that like ghost face syndrome? That's part of the surgery. You demanded that.
Starting point is 01:18:10 I don't like it as much. I like to be seen with money and clocks. Anyway, I've been playing. Yes. And hopefully the embargo goes up. And I've been watching like a dutiful girlfriend. You're playing. The new Guardians of the Galaxy.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Yeah. It's made by some of the people who did the Avengers game or the same studio, the bad one. It's way better. What? You better hope you haven't broken the embargo. Fuck it. It's bad.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Everybody knows it. The embargo or the game? The Avengers game. Oh, okay. Right, right, right. This is much better. It is much better, yeah. So it's single player story driven. There's really cool right, right, right. This is much better. It is much better, yeah. So it's single-player story-driven.
Starting point is 01:18:45 There's really cool, I'm not going to spoil stuff. There's really good interactions. So you play as Peter Quill. But you've got a sort of command wheel. Yes. You can pick the other four members of the team and tell them to do stuff. And you can chat to them and there's like branching storylines. And, you know, you go along and then a monster comes
Starting point is 01:19:00 and you all fight it together and then you go to the next thing or whatever. There's some really remarkable moments in it that I was really impressed by. There's a moment where you visit nowhere. The celestial head. By the way, yeah, this is just like it's the movie. Like it's the movie version with some other comic book elements thrown in, but it's pretty much just like the movie stuff really, which is what people know I guess at this point, including me.
Starting point is 01:19:24 So you walk through nowhere, but you can kind of branch out and visit different places and whatever. It's like the Nowhere gift shop. And I just, this is a very minor spoiler. The Nowhere swimming baths. You're going to be tricked by a big brain. The Nowhere fish and chip shop. The fish and chip, very good.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yes. There's a big brain, right? And you do like the find the ball in a cup. Oh, yes. You'll win the first one. Three card multi. Yeah. And you'll think, oh, that was easy. And it's only 25, whatever currency to play again. So I'll go again. Even if I lose, I only lose. I won a thousand something. I'll go again. I walked away. I walked away, but I went back because it was only 25. Turns out that it was
Starting point is 01:20:04 like, well, it, the stakes are higher, and he took a bunch of my money and disappeared. So if you go into the brain, just go once because that brain will take your money. Yeah, yeah. Everyone needs to know that. And then you won't have anything to go to the fish and chip shop. That's right.
Starting point is 01:20:18 The nowhere celestial fish and chip shop. It was a big brain. I should have known. I knew, and I still couldn't help myself. Piece of grilled flake, chips potato cake potato cakes but they put a third potato cake in that doesn't happen as much anymore i know but that's it's deep space oh yeah it's different deep fried deep space that's right um i think though it does get a little bit repetitive and kind of bogged down well there is an element to it there's a gameplay rallying element you rally the team and they all
Starting point is 01:20:44 gather around like you're the coach. Yeah. And it's sort of a cut scene. Yeah. And it's from your first person perspective of Peter Quill. And they all gather around and then you put on some music and then you all do a speech and you tell them what to do. And I watched that.
Starting point is 01:20:58 And it plays a song and you get a little power. But it's really long. Yeah, it's too long. And I'm like, am I going to have to do this? If I buy this game, am I going to have to do that a hundred times? You can select it, but also I've hit it by accident a lot. Okay, right. Because also, as Peter Quill, you're the weakest member of the team.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Yeah. You can't, like, just run in and you've got to use tactics and use your team at all times. Also, and maybe this is because I've an earlier version, and maybe they've fixed it all, it's glitchy as fuck. Uh-oh. And like not in a game-breaking way. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Except for one moment where the game broke. So in a game-breaking way. Yeah, I was watching a computer monitor screen of an event that happened, what happened to a particular, I'm not going to say, whatever makes sense about it. Big spoiler zone. Anyway, I'm looking at the screen and it's blank. And your pants fell down.
Starting point is 01:21:47 My pants fell down. In real life. Yeah. But then what about the game? And I looked in the mirror and I realised I'd changed my face into a pumpkin. Oh, no. But I couldn't see it. So the game went forward.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Oh, you had to know. I think I vaguely, but I clearly missed some information because later they're like, this thing happened. And I'm like, did it? Here's the thing though, James. Because I didn't see it. You skip cut scenes all the time. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I think. It played it. I think they've made this version just for you. They just don't show you any cut scenes. It probably needed another three or four months. So just to let people know, it's way better than the last one. It's so much better. And it's quite fun. I'm not quite finished, it's way better than the last one. It's so much better and it's quite fun.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I'm not quite finished but I'm close to the end. But it probably needs some tweaking. So if you could wait, I would. But if you like the movies and you like single-player campaigns and it's mostly like, look, mechanically it's not doing really anything. If you play video games, you've seen all of it before. Have you ever rerouted a power coupling? Oh, yeah, you came in at, like, the most boring part
Starting point is 01:22:48 that I'd played in the game. A lot of my enthusiasm ebbed for this game, having seen some of it being played. And I think that's probably because I didn't start the game at the start and sort of get, once I get into a story, but if I just show up and somebody's playing a thing and it's like, use your quill vision to look at the power couplings in the wall and then connect the power.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah. Follow the power line to the power coupling. I'm like, oh, I don't want to do any of this. Do I have to do this for the whole game? Yeah. It seems like as well, like you make choices that do have actual impacts. And I think it is the level structure is set. But I think the team members
Starting point is 01:23:25 you interact with and who you fall out with and who you're friendly with are determined by your choices interesting i need a few playthroughs which you know i might end up doing to kind of determine what's what but you know it's oh it's it's fun is there a moment where you step out and you're like on a gantry and you look out into space and there's a lot of space and you're like whoa it's a good looking lot of space yeah sure there are a lot of like you look out into space and there's a lot of space and you're like, whoa, it's a good-looking lot of space. Yeah, sure. Cool. There are a lot of, like, big areas and arenas and things like that,
Starting point is 01:23:50 but it is a lot of, like, you walk for a bit, you have a conversation, Rocket Raccoon's like, rah, rah, rah, and I'm like, Rocket, calm down, blah, blah, blah. I'm not me. I'm not the character. I'm not in the game. Okay, right. And then you get to a room and all the doors close and bad guys pile in.
Starting point is 01:24:02 You know, so it's that. Yeah, yeah. It's that. But it's masked, like, by being Guardians of the Galaxy. Sure, yeah. So that is my point. Plus there's all sorts of different little suits, isn't there? Oh, yeah, and they're free.
Starting point is 01:24:14 You just grab them and they're there. Unless they change that in the final game because fuck Defy No, terrible company. Thanks for the review copy. You might play it this week. Yeah, probably. I didn't ask for it either. You messaged me and you're like, hey, they sent us a thing.
Starting point is 01:24:28 It's like remember to change all these settings in your PlayStation so it doesn't go public. And I'm like, I'll never change any settings ever because I don't understand. I don't even know where they are. I don't know what PlayStation is set to. You can have this one. Anyway, anything else you're reading or doing?
Starting point is 01:24:42 I finally bought Disco Elysium, so I'm going to play that. I'm going to play that this week. Interesting. Even though I must play Guardians of the Galaxy. You must. You simply must. I simply must. So I'm going to play that on the old Switch, the old Switcheroo.
Starting point is 01:24:52 You're going to give me the old Switcheroo, aren't you? Wow. Very good stuff. Should we move on to the next segment of the show? Let's move on to the segment that we call. What do we call it? The letters segment. Yeah, I think you're right.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Where we do letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we think you're right. Where we do letters. The classic one was... Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a take away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Can we all just agree that this is the letter segment of the show? Can we all set aside partisan politics and agree... Let's get behind this.
Starting point is 01:25:22 ...that this is the letter segment, for God's sake. For the love of God's sake. Mason, we're in the letters segment of the show. If you do want to reach the show, actually, hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. This is from Mule from Denmark. Oh, okay. And Mule says,
Starting point is 01:25:39 Hey, guys, long-time listener, first-time writer. Your podcast has helped me through some tough times and I love having something to look forward to every week. I was wondering... I'd appreciate it. I was wondering whether Marvel Comics reboots the universe every couple of years like DC does. If not, how does Marvel bring their characters back to the status quo?
Starting point is 01:25:54 Do you prefer DC's method or Marvel's? Well, they both have their advantages. They should. Well, what Marvel does, what DC does is initially every 10 years, but now it's pretty much every few months. Every six to eight months. Every issue, there's a big event that's going to destroy the entire universe. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:26:12 And all the heroes get together and they save the universe, but the universe has been changed somehow. They couldn't stop it before some stuff in the universe was being changed, usually all the weird continuity stuff that they're sick of dealing with. Doesn't it when they come together, they're like, a big new guy is happening and he's got a big chair. He's sitting in a big chair and he's got a big bald head. I've got the Doom chair.
Starting point is 01:26:30 I'm actually from a dimension not a kid. Maybe I'm Superman but an evil Superman in the future perhaps. Yes. So Superman must sacrifice himself otherwise a bad future. Yes. Unless you get a big thing from behind the wall, the big space wall. But you can't get it. I'll stand in front of that wall.
Starting point is 01:26:51 You have to go through me. Oh, they've gone the other way. Okay, I'm done. I'm buggered. Am I out of continuity? Yeah, I'm out of continuity. Can I come back in a comic as a minor threat in the future? Yes, I will.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Wow, I love comics. Yeah, they're good, aren't they? But what Marvel does usually is they just like, what Marvel often do is they'll have individual issues. They'll have a character go, hmm, I sure am in a sticky situation. It reminds me of a time when I was in a different sticky situation back around the time of my origin as a superhero comic book character. Yep.
Starting point is 01:27:22 And then they go, you see the flashback, and the flashback is like updated. So like if their original origin was in the 60s, they'll update it so it was in like the 90s or whatever. So instead of being in a, you know, a Vietnam POW camp, they'll be in a- In a bin. Yeah, they'll be in a bin. Like Oscar the Grouch. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:27:39 This is a sticky situation. Outside of Starbucks or whatever. And they'll be like, oh, this is the 90s now. Okay, right. I love the 90s. Yeah, yeah, yeah.s yeah yeah so yeah you're right that's what do they do um i prefer oh i kind of prefer the dc and i know you hate because we've talked about crisis on infinite earths the the major big the first dc giant garbage that you hate but i love because it's so dense and there's too much to it but i love the fact that all the old stuff is still in continuity
Starting point is 01:28:05 yeah it's just in a continuity that got moved like it got it got cut off yeah okay sure but it still exists so every once in a while dc is like i'm the big man in the doom chair or whatever but this time i've changed reality so all the realities are real realities now and look all it's all the superman and they're all oh no they've all come to defeat me i shouldn't have done this in retrospect i shouldn't have let all the superman out because one superman couldn't have stopped me but now all the super have teamed up there's a big splash page where every superman's coming at me including the one that couldn't fly what's he how's he flying through space now oh someone's carrying him someone's got him by the scruff of the neck i'll see what's going on now. But I kind of like that they're all
Starting point is 01:28:45 still exist where the Marvel stuff, it's just like, don't think Marvel's just like, yeah, don't think too hard about it. Yeah, shut up. And there's also like they'll put people in another dimension and stuff as well, won't they, in Marvel. That's fun. Yeah. To be fair, I probably prefer the DC
Starting point is 01:29:01 version, I think, but it doesn't matter. All I care about, and I'm sure I've said this before, is just good stories, and I don't care what continuity they exist in. It's irrelevant to me. And sexy Venom. Yeah, sexy Venom is priority number one. Yeah, that's right. Priority number two is no women.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Okay, right. Sure. Or people of colour. Sure. That's not true. I just want to clarify that's not something i believe i thought it'd be a fun joke but i said it in a way where maybe that's not a joke yeah people like is this something up a sign it's saying not a joke folks no
Starting point is 01:29:34 mason it was a joke so uh yeah there we go what's next mason oh i've got some i've got some here i'm just gonna bring those up okay what's the bloody thing? Oh, here we go. This is from Metal Eugenio. It says hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod. You can reach the show via that or WeeklyPlanetPod.gmail.com. Did I say that already?
Starting point is 01:29:51 Maybe. What is your favorite final fight between hero and villain in a movie? I always love the T2 finale with Arnold and the gang
Starting point is 01:29:58 versus the liquid metal guy. Is that from the letter or is that your personal opinion? That's what he says or she says. Metal Eugenio. I'm not sure. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:30:08 I'm trying desperately hard to think of one that isn't a comic book movie related thing. Or Terminator 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? If we're talking Terminator, Terminator Salvation, where he fights the cartoon Arnold. Yeah, sure. I mean, Terminator 1 is a great finale. What about End of Matrix? We just looked at the Matrix. Yeah, sure. No, I mean Terminator 1 is a great finale. What about End of Matrix?
Starting point is 01:30:27 We just looked at The Matrix. Yeah, it's a pretty solid fight. Do you like a bit where somebody's... How about one where people talk their way out of it? How about that? What about Guardians? End of the First Guardians? Yeah, nice dance-off.
Starting point is 01:30:37 That's fun. Dance with their old hands or whatever? Yeah, yeah, that's cool. That is good, yeah. But we're not doing comic book movies, are we? No, we can't. We've got to do real movies. What about the end of Michael Clayton where he finally gets
Starting point is 01:30:45 Tilda Swinton on some sort of crime-related thing? He's like, good luck in jail, Tilda Swinton. I haven't seen Michael Clayton. I can't remember how to answer, to be honest. Is it a big battle? What are we saying? Just whatever. Yeah, it says a fight between a hero and a villain.
Starting point is 01:31:04 I always liked, if we're doing comic book movies, when Willem Dafoe beats the absolute tar out of Spider-Man. Okay. And he's just fucked. Sure, yeah, okay. And then I hit my mic then. And then he comes back and he's just like just torn to shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:31:19 Yeah, that's fun. But if we're talking non-comic book movies, I can't think of any. What's a good horror one? It's nearly spooktober. I remember enjoying the Freddy versus Jason, like their final battle. I guess. Yeah. What did you think of the fight at the end of Dune?
Starting point is 01:31:37 Without spoiling it because we're out of spoilers now. Oh, yeah, cool. Liked it. There we go. That's the best one. Should I move on? Yeah. I'll think of one next week or immediately after we stop recording.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Cool, cool, cool. But I still think it's Michael Clayton. Yeah. What about the movie Up in the Air with George Clooney where the pilot comes down and goes, you've been in the plane a lot, haven't you? Yeah, I've been up in the air, baby. Swim nasty.
Starting point is 01:31:59 They fist fight. You've got 14 million miles. Now you have to fist fight the pilots. But if you win, you get to become pilots. You've got 14 million miles. Now you have to fist fight the pilots. But if you win, you get to become pilots. That movie's about air miles, isn't it? But it's a metaphor or whatever. Isn't it about firing people? Yeah, but it's about
Starting point is 01:32:17 he's doing this arbitrary thing of getting his air miles up. Oh, yeah. Okay. Sure. Anyway, so MattNeo27, he says hashtag working planet pod. Is that up in the air? It so MattNeo27 who says, hashtag weekly platypod. Is that up in the air? It's the one where he professionally fires people. That's his job.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Yeah, okay, right. Is that going up in the air? Yes. At the end of that movie, he has to fight the, that's the final battle. He has to fight the ultimate employee,
Starting point is 01:32:36 like the slacker employee who doesn't care about anything. I think it's Sam Elliott's the pilot. Okay, right. It is George Clooney, yes. And Anna Kendrick and Vera Farmiga. Jason Reitman directed that.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Oh. He's doing new Ghostbusters. I didn't know that. Okay. Matt Neo 27 says, hashtag weekly planet pod. The man who knows everything about anime slash manga. What do you think of the Cowboys bebop The Lost Sessions clip? We talked about that already.
Starting point is 01:33:01 That's true, we did. But we've got another part to this. Also, is there any chance of the One Piece adaptation being good? The manga sold more copies than Batman has and in less time, so stakes are high. I don't know what One Piece is, but I know there's a lot of issues of it. He's got a straw hat and he's running in, isn't he? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Let's find out. He's got a straw hat and he's running in, isn't he? Let me see. I'm going to go to Google image search and see. Oh, he does have a straw hat. He's running in. He's all leaping in, this dude. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:33:30 He's sort of swinging in, I think. Yeah, okay. Okay, is it some sort of pirate-related thing? Is he a pirate king of some sort? I don't know. Okay. Is it some sort of adaptation of Journey to the East or whatever it's called?
Starting point is 01:33:41 Is it just that again, Journey to the West? Interesting. Anyway, will this be good? No. Nah. So it was a TV series apparently also. Oh, la-di-da. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:54 There's 996 episodes. Well, that's just confirmed. I'm never going to watch that. Our friend Andrew Levins I think has read all of them. Has he? He spent a summer doing it once or something. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Well, so here we go. In a review of the second DVD released of 4Kids Entertainment, Todd Douglas Jr. of DVD Talk called its adaptation a shabby treatment, resulting in an arguably less enjoyable rendition. Whoa. I said, yeah, okay. And so this is, it's good maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Yeah, okay. And so this is, it's good maybe. I don't know. Anyway, the One Piece earnings in April of 2003 to that between September 2020 is 77 billion yen, which is 817 million, which is pretty good. Pretty good, actually, yeah. There's no Avengers Endgame. That's very true.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Anyway, what do you think? Do you think this could be big? He's got his hat. Yeah, no, I get that. He's running in. Sometimes. That's very true. Anyway, what do you think? Do you think this could be big? He's got his hat. Yeah, no, I get that. He's running in. Sometimes he's leaping in. Okay. He's making moves.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Oh, yeah, no, that's definitely true. There's a sense of movement there, which I think people appreciate. People like lights and movement and straw hats. Why is his name One Piece? That's a great question. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the hat is One Piece.
Starting point is 01:35:04 You know how a lot of hats are two piece? Oh, yeah. Are they? No. Like the brim is one part and it's independent of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They spin. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Any more or are we out of here? Oh. Okay. So they're the straw hat pirates. I just remembered.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Okay. Because I've actually seen all of these. I just had a lapse in judgment, but I remember everything. It's like that. It's because you've seen so much. Yeah. It's like me and jokes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:27 I've got every joke on the boil at the same time. You're thinking about every anime at the same time. So sometimes it's difficult to pull. Yeah. So if at any time you're struggling to have an opinion or know something about an anime, it's not that you don't. It's you've got, you're just trying to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Yeah. It's just that anime computer. It's like a ball of yarn. You've got to kind of pick at it and pull it apart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm loving this. You're like, what's in this bit of the yarn? Oh, it's Akira.
Starting point is 01:35:52 It's in this bit of the yarn. It's the movie Akira. The movie Akira. Yeah. I've seen it. Yeah. I've seen it. I say it to myself.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And to anybody who's in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. The movie Akira. I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool, cool, cool.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Anyway, should we wrap the show up then? Yeah, let's wrap it up, folks. I'm moving the cure up, saying it. Yeah, yeah, cool, cool, cool. Anyway, should we wrap the show up then? Yeah, let's wrap it up. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast. Otherwise, wouldn't really be anything, would it? Nobody was listening to it. That's true. And you wouldn't hear this. No, it's true.
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Starting point is 01:36:26 But everybody else out there, I wish you were very fine. Don't live in a ditch in hell. I agree. That's right. Also, I'm not wishing – listeners of the show, I'm not wishing any loved ones or friends of yours. No, you've got to have them listen to this so they don't live in a ditch in hell. Well, I wasn't going to wish it on them, but I'm just saying they will.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Oh, yeah, yeah. End up in a ditch in hell. That's right. In this podcast. And that's on you. Yeah, that's right. If you're not getting this out there to them. Yeah, I wasn't going to wish it on them, but I'm just saying they will end up in a ditch in hell if they don't get this podcast. And that's on you. Yeah, that's right. If you're not getting this out there to them. Folks, thank you very much, except for the aforementioned people who live in a ditch in hell.
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Starting point is 01:37:23 and can make you laugh on their witty banter alone. Which more people I knew would listen to it? Well, they're in a ditch and hell then, aren't they? But they think it's dumb before they give it a try, to which I say, fine, but you're wrong, but it's fine, but you're wrong. If you're any kind of nerd with a good sense of humor or just someone who wants some frequency in your ears to bring you joy and relief, give these guys a listen or four.
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