The Weekly Planet - 409 Halloween Kills (the franchise)

Episode Date: November 1, 2021

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.It's our Hallow-Scream Spooktacular Shocktober The Turdy Worst (No Co...wards) episode! This week in addition to talking Halloween Kills we get into some of our own spooky suggestions. Plus more Dune, Lightyear and more! Time codes below, thanks for listening.Please vote for Suggestible in The Listener's Choice award australianpodcastawards.com/voteSuggestible Halloween Special play.acast.com/s/suggestible00:00 The Start10:01 Dune: Part Two14:10 Tom Holland Lied16:06 Batgirl Villain Brendan Fraser18:50 Army of the Dead Sequel22:16 Cowboy Bebop Trailer23:08 Lightyear Trailer25:57 New Marvel Game31:38 The Eternals Reactions35:19 Halloween Kills (spoilers 43:20 to 54:39)54:39 Horror Movie Recommendations01:11:23 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:16:38 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:41 May 10. Tickets on sale now. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Red hot comic book movie news. Shooting up your butt hole. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. And this week, because it's the spookiest time of the year and I'm not just talking about tax time, Mason.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Let me tell you this, James. Let me tell you this, James. Yesterday I was at home and the TV on. I was watching YouTube. I went away to, like, load the dishwasher or something, not to brag. Yeah. But the video I was watching finished and then it autoplayed to a Mr. Sunday Movies video and you go,
Starting point is 00:01:31 because it's the spookiest time of year and I'm not just talking about tax time, and I went, I've got to do my tax return. We've got a few emails about people who are like, it's tax time. So it worked. Your stupid joke that you never stopped doing came in handy. Well, this is the last time. Otherwise, I'd be doing it right because it's tax time, you know? So it worked. Your stupid joke that you never stopped doing came in handy. Well, this is the last time. Because if I hadn't done it, otherwise I'd be doing it right. Because it's the 31st.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So I'd be doing it right now, like in the middle of the podcast. That's a good point. So it's too late for Australians who are listening to this. If you're listening to this now, surprise, everyone. Now you've got to go to a tax professional. You've got to go through all the bloody hurdy-gurdy. Yep, the hoopily-doopily. You're probably going to get audited.
Starting point is 00:02:05 That's right. Yeah, for your crimes. Yeah. Well, that's spooky too. You've got to claim all your crypto. You've got to. Nah, you just shuffle it around a bit, man. Just shuffle it around.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't even worry about it. Nice. Buy those NFTs. You've got to. Get some of those NFTs. We're going to talk about some NFTs today, aren't we, Mason? I just want to talk.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Look, here's my. Before we get. Should I just do what we're talking about today? Okay. Get someone as NFTs. We're going to talk about some NFTs today, aren't we, Mason? I just wanted to – look, here's my – before we get – Should I just do what we're talking about today? Okay, great. And then I'll tell people what I'm obsessed with. You're obsessed with it at the moment. You cannot literally stop it. Not in the normal way where I'm obsessed with a thing, where I say that I'm obsessed with a thing but I'm actually
Starting point is 00:02:37 just not listening. Yeah. I'm actually obsessed with it. Okay, good. We're going to talk about some Dune news. We're going to talk about – Dune news? Spider-Man news. Spider-Man news. We're going to talk about some Batgirl news. We're going to talk about Spider-Man news.
Starting point is 00:02:45 We're going to talk about some Batgirl news. Army of the Dead 2 news. We've got trailers for Cowboy Bebop and Lightyear. There's a new Marvel production, Game in the Works. We're going to talk about how Eternals is the least well-received Marvel movie we've ever had as of so far. And then, because we're in the Hellish Scream, Spooktacular Shocked shocked over the 30 worst brackets,
Starting point is 00:03:06 no cowards episode. Uh, we're going to dirty worst. Good. I'm going to change that. I'm going to change that. Yeah. Oh,
Starting point is 00:03:13 it's a turd scary. I mean, you wouldn't want my dog. Depends where you encounter. Yes. A hell of screams, spooktacular shock. Like if you're in the supermarket and all the lights went out and then like a
Starting point is 00:03:24 shelf collapsed and it was just all turds. You'd be like, oh, what's going on? Or one big turd, he pushed it over. It's just like, what? Yeah. What? Yeah. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah, Shocktober, the turdy worst. No, no cowards. No cowards. It's good. I like it. And then we're going to talk about both Halloween kills and then we've got some little Halloween recommendations, which might be too late for some people by the time they're reading this.
Starting point is 00:03:44 No, but as I understand it, a lot of people participate in Spooktember, which is you celebrate Halloween like the start of September to like the end of November. Oh, great. So you've still got plenty of time. You can watch movies anytime. Anyway, you want to talk about NFTs, Mason. There's time codes below, but you want to talk about NFTs.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Just briefly because I watched – you didn't watch this week's episode of Hot Ones, the YouTube interview show with hot questions and even hotter wings, as you're aware. They eat the wings, the hot wings, and then they answer the questions. I had some delightful chicken tenders today. I went to Bell's Hot Chicken. My favourite thing about Hot Ones is all the terrible spin-offs that people are trying to make.
Starting point is 00:04:22 It's like, we're having beers and we're shooting cans or something. I'm thinking of that Alec Baldwin thing. I think that's why I went there. But, you know, it's always like, we're patting puppies and we're kicking footballs or whatever, you know? Anyway, so go on. I would like, I'd like to do mild ones. Just like.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Just tepid questions. You just get a warm chicken tender with a ranch sauce on it. And then I ask you how your day's been. That's fine. I don't have any follow-up questions. But anyway, this week we got Mila Kunis on from many things that I enjoy. That 70s show. Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Friends with Benefits or the other one. The Bad Moms movies. But I've seen her in many things that I've enjoyed, many movies and TV shows, presumably all of which paid her enough money that she doesn't have to do the thing she is currently doing yeah which is that she's providing a voice and she's doing promotion for a web of what seems to be a flash-based web card what's the code again 100 cats stoner cats stonic that's funny that's fun i'm saying it in the same tone of voice that Charles Dance would say Ghost News. Ghost.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Stoner Cats. News. Ghost. Which has been funded by NFTs. I'm just watching the trailer. Pretty good, right? Bad looking show. And in order to watch it, James, you have to purchase a token, a non-fungible token.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And I looked up the prices. In order to do so, James, there are various prices, but the cheapest option is you have to pay 0.6 Ethereum, which currently is $2,500 US dollars. Perfect. So you can contribute to and watch a flash animated web cartoon called Stone Accents. This looks terrible.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But it's got the voice of Mila Kunis. Yeah, but it looks terrible. But here's the thing. What I love about it and why I obsess with it is because, like everything NFT, it's not anything, but they've added a value thing. Seth MacFarlane's in it. Chris Rock is in it. Jane Fonda's in it.
Starting point is 00:06:12 How much money do you think they're getting? Because I've not seen any. I reckon Mila Kunis is getting half a million dollars. You're going to buy it. I'm going to try. Status sold out. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Well, you can't even pay $2,500 for it. But here's the thing. It fascinates me because they're like, I've seen some promotional images for this, and it's like the thing about this, the way it's different from a regular cartoon is actually you get to decide where the story goes. No, I don't want that.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Like who cares? I don't want that. But who cares? Yeah. It's not like you get to decide the direction the MCU takes. Yeah. It's like. Stoner cats. the direction the MCU takes. Yeah. It's like. Stoner Cats.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Are the Stoner Cats going to be in space or are they going to be on an ocean liner? It's just going to be jokes about bongs. What are you doing? Also, looking at it, it looks worse than South Park. And South Park is supposed to look bad, but it looks worse than that. Like less effort. Yeah, yeah. Doesn't look good at all.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I know I can't wait to. Watch it on YouTube? No. Just take it off. If you do want to watch this, which you don't. No, yeah, yeah. It doesn't look good at all. Anyway, I can't wait to. Watch it on YouTube? No. Just take it off. If you do want to watch this, which you don't. No, I don't. You should torrent it.
Starting point is 00:07:12 That's what I would do. I mean, I'm not going to. It seems like it's just a Kickstarter, but it costs you $2,500, and all you get to do is watch the thing. But decide what the stoner cats do. Yeah, that's probably true, yeah. What if they're in the jungle? I mean, it's not their natural environment.
Starting point is 00:07:29 They're cats, but they're not jungle cats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see the humor in that. So the background would be green instead of like... Grey. It's mostly grey blocks from the short clip that I just witnessed. Yeah. Terrible. It's just a weird...
Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm just fascinated by it, just the concept of it. I'm a big fan. Mason, we have big fans, right? Or listeners. Fans is weird. I don't like saying fans. Because that implies that anybody approves of this. But anyway, you might remember a few years ago that we won the popular podcast awards
Starting point is 00:07:56 in Australia for the Weekly Planet. We brute forced it. Yes. We just had the most number of listeners willing to vote for us. And they didn't give us any nominations or anybody at Planet Broadcasting at the time. So I went, okay, I'm going to ruin this. I'm going to win this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And we did somehow. We got a big bit of glass. It's very nice. It doesn't photograph well. Yeah. Because it's clear and it's got people's choice of water. Yeah, you can't. But we got it and it's somewhere.
Starting point is 00:08:18 We do have it. Anyway, I want to do it again. That'll be a murder weapon one day. It'll be evidence in a murder trial. This bloodied podcast award, they'll say, the prosecutor will say in court, and everybody will be like, there'll be murmurs.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And if you listen real hard, most of the murmurs will be, what's a podcast again? There's awards for that? It's like a radio show, but for ugly people. People too ugly for radio. So, my other podcast, Less Successful, that's suggestible. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:46 If you want to vote for this, it would be much appreciated if you go to australianpodcastawards.com slash vote. And look, I just want to win it again just because we didn't get nominated
Starting point is 00:08:55 for anything again. Yeah, right. And you also have to pay money to be nominated. And every time Claire goes to put it in, I'm like, don't, because you're going to have to make me
Starting point is 00:09:01 try and brute force this thing again and make people do it. And then she just stares you down and you just see her move her hand over the mouse and she goes, click. She's like, what are you going to do? We didn't get nominated. So, look, I want to win this again. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Perfect. But we can't win it for the Weekly Planet because we already won it. Yeah. If you could, obviously you don't have to. Suggestible. I'll link below if you do want to check it out. So this has to be a write-in people have to write it oh it's not it's a it's a it's a vote and it's a drop down thing and you
Starting point is 00:09:29 use it's in there it's automatically in there okay right so you think you need your name and your email address and you rule out that they will disqualify because you're also on it no i don't it's a different podcast okay great i look i don't think do you think after this do you think after what you win this yeah i'm including myself in this after we win I don't think they'll- Do you think after this, do you think after you win this, I'm including myself in this, after we win this, do you think they'll put up the little sign with your picture on it and be like, do not allow this man to be nominated for any awards? Okay, if we win this one, maybe next year we'll do one episode of something else and then win it again.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Okay. I just want to ruin this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that so wrong? Okay, next, if we win this, we will do a one-off podcast called James, Maceo and Claire skew the results of the Australian Podcast Awards yet again. That's what the podcast, we do one episode
Starting point is 00:10:16 and then we win it again and then we see what happens. But we can't do it without you folks. We need your help. Okay, folks, we're not looking at this win yeah now we're this is an investment in the future think of it as the middle portion of a halloween franchise just filler just fill it to get a waste of everyone's time and we just thought of it now yeah that's right we're like we could have done that but we're just we're wasting because we could have jumped to the thing but we're doing this thing we just want more accolades that's right exactly people saying why are you doing this thing. We just want more accolades.
Starting point is 00:10:45 That's right, exactly. People saying, why are you doing this? That's right. Anyway, first bit of news. I'm calling this. How's dune dune? How do you think it is? How's dune dune? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:54 So it's approaching 200. There's really only one way to say the word dune. But you get it, right? Yeah, I get it. It's a fun little play on words. No, it's not. We're approaching. It's a fun little way to mispronounce a word.
Starting point is 00:11:05 It's just what we do here. That's my favorite joke. Has-do-n-do. Has-do-n-do. It's approaching $230 million worldwide. A drunk man sidles up to you in a bar and goes, Has-do-n-do. Seems all right, I guess.
Starting point is 00:11:17 It's kind of a high concept sci-fi situation, I guess. Anyway, which is good. It's doing well because a sequel has been green lit. It's set for release, you're not going to believe this, Mason, at the spookiest time of the year, and I'm not just talking about tax time, October of 2023. That's not far at all. It's not far at all, Mason.
Starting point is 00:11:37 That's right. It's also, I feel like they must have already set a lot of this in motion because it's two years. He must have already written it and of this in motion because he would have, because it's two years. He must have already written it and there must be a bunch of concept art. I think you'll find Frank Herbert wrote it already. I'm sorry. It's like Frank Herbert. Anyway, I just wanted to.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Do you also want to apologize to Brian Herbert? Should I? Yes. Is he not listening to this? He's probably not listening. Speaking of though. The script is just like it it's the original book, and they've just scratched out all the boring stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Well, speaking of the books, this is from EW, where they spoke to Denis Villeneuve, who said, I've always envisioned three movies. It's not that I want to do a franchise. Just the idea of them. I've always envisioned three movies. Imagine three. Just any?
Starting point is 00:12:23 I'm just imagining three men and a baby, three and a little lady and presumably some kind of Zac Efron hypothetical third reboot version yeah that's all i have they won't let me do it so i just do high concept sci-fi forever it's not that i want to do a franchise but this is dune and dune is a huge story and in order to honor it's huge yeah it's huge i think I think you would need at least three movies. That would be the dream, to follow Paul Atreides, and his full arc would be nice. And he said Herbert wrote six books, and the more he was writing, the more it was getting psychedelic.
Starting point is 00:12:57 So I don't know how some of them could be adapted. One thing at a time. If I ever have a chance to do Dune Part 2 and then Dune Messiah, I'm blessed. Hashtag blessed, he said. Okay. So, yeah. But really, he hasn't finished Dune 1 yet. blessed. Hashtag blessed, he said. Okay. So, yeah. Really, but he hasn't finished Dune 1 yet. No.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So maybe it'll be four movies. Maybe. Or maybe it'll be another movie covering Dune. But what he's saying is, like, past three. Yeah, yeah. It's, like, all, it's too weird and out there for him. Oh, I see what you're saying. That it's unadaptable.
Starting point is 00:13:20 It is something that is adaptable, Mason. My fantastic Halloween costume. Terrific. What do you think? What is your son there? He's a gold Power Ranger. Maybe I'll put this on my Insta. But I went as Peter B. Parker. You'll have to blur out his Power Ranger face. So people don't recognise the mask. I went as Peter B. Parker.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And look, yes, I do have the Spider-Man No Way Home Spider-Man t-shirt. I apologise. I couldn't get the one from the movie. It turns out that if you wear two odd shoes, two downsides, one, I think I've fucked one of my knees from walking around lopsided, and two, it's a costume you have to explain. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 People are like, did you lose one of your shoes on the walk and then find another shoe? I had a photo ready. I'm like, no, it's this one. And they're like, oh, yeah, okay. Because, see, to the uninitiated which is most parents i imagine who are giving away candy weird no it looks like it looks like you are simply a a bedraggled man who was put on a spider-man t-shirt yes and then like just a
Starting point is 00:14:17 whatever jacket on the top yeah yeah that's right and that which is essentially what i did but did you encounter any true fans anybody like literally nobody anybody like, look at it. Literally nobody. Wow. Nobody. But you know, that's the price you pay when you yourself are a true fan. That's very true, yeah. And you're only true fan in the neighborhood, apparently. Yeah. Anyway, speaking of Spider-Man, Tom Holland.
Starting point is 00:14:36 You should have, for the previous day, you should have put a copy of Enter the Spider-Verse into the Spider-Verse. Which one is it? Both. You should have put Enter slash Into the Spider-Verse in everybody's letterbox. Yeah. You should have put Enter slash Into the Spider-Verse in everybody's letterbox. Yeah. You should have burned them with a CD, put them all in there,
Starting point is 00:14:48 and then they could have watched it. When you showed up at their house, they'd be like, oh, I get it. It's the centre of mind right now. Yeah. And just a gif of you dancing, maybe, in the outfit. Speaking of Spider-Man, though, Tom Holland lied. He said, I honestly don't know if I'll return, he told Empire. It's the first time since I got cast as Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:15:05 that I don't have a contract. Oh, don't leave me outside. He might not have a contract. I'll never work again. Oh, no. Am I going to do a Mind Snake sequel? You might do the Mind Snake sequel. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Still snaking. Still snaking. If he doesn't have a contract, which I think he does by now, they'll lock that down. I think they still have to do Spider-Man versus Venom. They have to do Kraven's Last Hunt. They don't have to do any of these things. I think he has to do an Avengers movie.
Starting point is 00:15:35 They're going to have to introduce Miles Morales. There's at least those stories you have to cover. Tom Holland has to age up enough that conceivably he could have a junior Spider-Man sidekick. Exactly. It wouldn't be weird. You wouldn't be like, that dude's supposed to be the same age? What's going on there?
Starting point is 00:15:49 What's this? We don't like it. Speaking of, though, people have been hotly anticipating the trailer. Daniel Richtman is a great scooper on Twitter. Check him out, twitter.com slash the name I said. He says there's not going to be Spider-Man trailer, he reckons, for a couple of weeks at least, but we are getting coming, I think, Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Get ready, Mason. Oh, yes. Get your pen and pad ready. What I can do is I can take a big swig of this lemon drink and I can spray it all over the- Oh, this is definitely worthy of that. Okay. Morbius trailer this week.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Michael Morbius himself. I just swallowed the drink. It's fine. Michael Morbius. Was that a result of you not being interested in Michael Morbius himself. I just swallowed the drink. It's fine. Michael Morbius. Was that a result of you not being interested in Michael Morbius' movie or because could I have given you any news and that would have been the result? No, you could have given me some news.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Okay. I would have spit-taped. Not that. Not a new Michael Morbius trailer. Yeah. He's a Dracula, isn't he? Yeah, he's a Dracula. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:44 The living Dracula. That's right. You excited for that one? No. I think's a Dracula, isn't he? Yeah, he's a Dracula. The living Dracula. That's right. You excited for that one? No. I think, yeah, I got that, didn't I? From the context clues you gave me. Yeah. My general air of disdain for Michael Morbius, the movie. Deadliner reporting, Mason. Yes. The Brendan Fraser,
Starting point is 00:16:59 Frasier? No. Dune is the villain in Batgirl, the movie. Yes, but not specifically what character he's playing. There was rumors the villain in Batgirl, the movie. Yes, but not specifically what character he's playing. There was rumors. Firefly? Yeah, Firefly. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:17:10 That's right. So not the ship. Sure. Was that ship called Firefly? The ship was called Serenity, but it was a Firefly class ship. That makes sense. They should bring that show back. And by that I mean I don't think anybody thinks that anymore.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I really know. Yeah. And they sort of, I don't think anybody thinks that anymore. I really know. Yeah. And they sort of, I think they filled out the continuity with comic books and stuff like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So that's fun. And some people have moved on and some people have not moved on.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I've moved on. Yeah. And that's okay. Yeah. Have you seen, James, have you seen, I think it's on maybe like, it's either on the Firefly box set or like the Serenity box set. It's a crowd singing that. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:50 To Joss Whedon. Wow. Like at a Comic Con. I think it's an Australian Comic Con. Did he ask them to do it? No, they just volunteered it. It's really bad. And what did Joss Whedon think?
Starting point is 00:17:57 He thought it was great. Did he drink it in? Yeah. Was he like, I'm going to be on top forever? Yeah, he said that. I shared it with my wife but she doesn't know. I'm going to be on top forever, he said. Yeah, I'm going to be really mean to the cast of all my future movies. I'm going to be on top forever. Yeah, he said that. I'd share to my wife, but she doesn't know. I'm going to be on top forever, he said. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I'm going to be really mean to the cast of all my future movies. I'm going to go manned with power. I would. This has inspired me to do it. It's all your fault. That's what I'd do. This audience. That's what I'd do.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I'd just let it go to my head immediately. Yeah. And then I'd be bitter for the rest of my life that I got taken down a peg. Is that what he's like? I don't know what he's doing. Anyway, what do you think about that? Firefly. Pyromaniac villain, essentially.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Got a jet pack. Flies around with a, what's it called? Flamethrower. I was going to say, what's the opposite of a fire extinguisher? But I couldn't think of the word fire extinguisher. Yeah. Reverse fire extinguisher. Just shoots flames at you?
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. Great. So that's cool. And he seems to be getting a lot of play at the moment. Yeah. Reverse fire extinguisher. Just shoots flames at you? Yeah. Great. So that's cool. And he seems to be getting a lot of play at the moment. Yeah. And why the heck not? That's right. Why the heck not, Mason?
Starting point is 00:18:52 So there you go. Isn't that a movie with Tom Welling? I might watch because I find those two delightful. Those two together? Yeah, they're a team of some sort, but I don't think it's good. I don't think it doesn't look like a good movie. Is it direct to streaming? Probably, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:05 They're both rich. Probably? Hard to say. I don't know. I can't think it's good. I don't think it doesn't look like a good movie. Is it direct to streaming? Probably, yeah. They're both rich. Probably? Hard to say. I don't know. I can't tell. Yeah. Because you look up somebody's net worth and it's like $4 million? Question mark?
Starting point is 00:19:15 It'll be like $4 to $100 million. You're like, okay. Anywhere in there is fine. Yeah, yeah. And then it's just underneath it's got coke habit? Question mark? Anyway, you might have seen this. Sometimes there's pride and there's a fall.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah. Or you're buying too many islands or whatever. Well, I know Brendan Fraser, there was a very bitter divorce and I know he lost a lot of money in that. I don't know the specifics of it, but, yeah, so there you go. Army of the Dead has a title. It's called Planet of the Dead. Sorry, Army of the Dead.
Starting point is 00:19:44 We're wrapping it up, folks. The ultimate piece of news. We've done it. You wouldn't see that from, I don't know. Hollywood Hot Goss. Hollywood Hot Goss, the podcast. You wouldn't see that from a Perez Hilton. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Perez Hilton wouldn't tell you that Army of the Dead has a title and it's Army of the Dead and it's been out for a year probably. That was this year. Army of the Dead 2 has a title. It's called Planet of the Dead. Okay. So that Safecracker movie prequel came out on Netflix. Did you watch it?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Not yet. I thought like there was middling at first, but I've heard some people who I trust who were like, it's actually pretty good. I'll probably watch it. Because the director, he's the director as well as the star, and Joss Whedon also. The guy, the Swedish guy.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, the Swedish guy. And whatever he is. Yeah. Deidre or something? He's some kind of Scandinavian type. Yes. People will message us and let us know, but we know he's Irish. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Listen, but apparently he might be alive in the next one. Oh, did he die in Ireland? I think he got taken by the king of the zombies or something. Okay, right. But anyway, good. My favourite part of that, the trailer for Army of Thieves, is that he meets someone and they're like, do you want to get in on this action?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Are you going to live your life? Is anything exciting going to happen in your life? Are you going to make that choice? And it's like at the start of the trailer he's doing some sort of like international underground safe-cracking competition. What more excitement do you need? Like that's not usual. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 That's unusual already. That is unusual. So in that movie, do they look on TV, if you haven't seen it, and go, oh, there's zombies. Okay, that's interesting. That is in the trailer. Anyway, let's get on with the heist, shall we? That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 That's the most exciting thing I'm going to do. Wow, that guy's life ramps up until he's kidnapped by the king of the zombies. And then maybe he's dead, but apparently not. Nuclear explosion, though? Oh, yeah. But, you know, he could have got a jet pack. He could have got a jet pack. Like Firefly.
Starting point is 00:21:35 He could have been in a vault. Yep. The other guy was in the vault. The other guy, but there could be another vault in Las Vegas, conceivably. Conceivably? Yeah, yeah. I don't like to speculate. Lead-lined bathtub, Elvis' lead-lined bathtub that he left in Las Vegas, maybe?
Starting point is 00:21:50 The one he planned to die in. Yeah, yeah, the one he planned. That's right, yeah. Okay, fair enough. Let's, ain't no neutrinos going to get me. That's what he said. Uh-huh. Uh-huh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I married a 14-year-old. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. All right, man. Yeah, cool, man. Yeah married a 14-year-old. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. All right, man. Yeah. Cool, man. Yeah, that's right. People go every year, thousands of people take a pilgrimage to Elvis' lead-lined bathtub.
Starting point is 00:22:15 You can't sit in it, though. You're not allowed. No, you wouldn't. Yeah. But anyway, he also talked about his Star Wars movie that he's making, Zack Snyder, and he's like, yeah, I'm doing it. And cool. I can't wait to see it, genuinely.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Because, you know, a lot of the times, you know, filmmakers, they get forced into like a franchise and then we don't see kind of much else from them other than that, which is fine because I like that because then you get good movies. But big budget, big swings, massive fan. Yeah. Because especially when they go badly.
Starting point is 00:22:42 My God. But also when they're good is good. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. And at God. But also when they're good is good. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. And at a certain point I reckon we've gotten enough good content in any given franchise that I'll see some garbage ones. Fuck yeah. Just to pick them apart, honestly.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Definitely. You know. Just something I could never make. Like conceive of like an idea better than a bad thing. Yeah. You know. Trailers are homesteading. Got a couple thing. Yeah. You know. Trailers are home, Mason. Got a couple here.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I've lined them up. Cowboy Bebop. Oh, no, this trailer's blocked the Suez Canal. Look out. Oh, no, Mason. What do you think of Cowboy Bebop's trailer? Looked fun. We speculated whether it was going to be to do with that other thing.
Starting point is 00:23:20 What? The thing that we saw before and they're fighting. The little short film. Whatever. They're mucking about with conventions and framing and so forth. They're making comic panels about. But it seems it's just regular. It's regular.
Starting point is 00:23:31 It looks fun. I hate John Cho. Very charming. Enjoy his work. I know he was like, oh, I'm probably a bit old for this or whatever because he's supposed to be like 26 and he's maybe late 40s. But it really doesn't matter. It seems at all.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He's got the looks. He's got what it takes. Yes. It seems. Wide hair. Wide hair is all you need. You probably need a as it all. He's got the looks. He's got what it takes. Yes. It's the same. Wide hair. Wide hair is all you need. You probably need a bit of acting. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:23:48 You can't just co-spawn your wide hair. That's true. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's good. He's probably put in a bit of both. It's true. And then we had the trailer, which I was going to say break the internet
Starting point is 00:24:00 and maybe a little bit. Light Year. Oh, right. Which is the Buzz Light light year it's not a prequel movie though it sort of is it's the movie that the buzz light year toy is inspired by so in the movie in the toy story franchise yeah the movie light year is the movie they the children would be watching and then buying the buzz light year toys yes one of which is the toy from toy story yeah yeah so this light year is not the buzz of which is the toy from Toy Story. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So this Lightyear is not the Buzz Lightyear from the Toy Story movies. It's a different Buzz Lightyear. No, no, no, no, no. And which is why it's also this version is voiced by Chris Evans. Yes. Did you see that tweet that went around of someone's like, where they showed a picture of him and he just looks like a dude. Sure.
Starting point is 00:24:45 And he's like, what, are they going to make him bloody gender fluid or whatever? I didn't say that. He looks, what do you mean? First of all, who cares if they did that? But, like, obviously not. Sure. Like, if you saw a still image of that, you would know that that's probably not the direction that this movie is going.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And also, you see in the trailer, he's a regular man. That's what I'm saying. But they posted it with a picture of him without like the helmet or whatever. Okay. So he just had hair and like his face. Is it because he's slightly like he's got a doughy sort of, he's got a big. Yeah, but he's always, he's got a big doughy head. It's like, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It is true. Anyway, it kind of reminded me of like Doom, you know, or like Halo, that kind of vibe. But this also looks like the exact kind of movie I would have liked as a kid. Yes. And I feel like my son in particular is going to love this. But you won't allow him to watch it, right? No, we don't watch movies in my house.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That's right. We podcast. That's right. We're podcasting rude, Mason. That's right. You allow him to watch the trailer and then get him hyped and then you do a reaction podcast. You record a reaction podcast with him.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Yeah. And then we're going to make the podcast awards. We're going to win it. We're going to put that one out. Why not? Yeah. But he, yeah, when I showed him, I actually did show him and he was like, yeah, that's cool, whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Has he seen all the Toy Story movies? Maybe. He saw the last one in cinemas. I know that. He's probably seen some of the other ones. Probably. Going out on his own of the other ones. Probably. Going out on his own watching Toy Story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I think he's definitely seen the first one. But, yeah, he's like, oh, cool, when are we going to see that? And I'm like, mid-next year. And he's like, I don't know what that even means. Yeah, that's right. Is it out now, though, Dad? Yeah, I should have showed him. Anyway, good stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:22 We have been playing a bit of the Guardians of the Galaxy together, that video game, which has been a bit fun. Okay, good stuff. We have been playing a bit of the Guardians of the Galaxy together, that video game, which has been a bit fun. Okay, but is it more fun without him? No, it's good. It's cool. Long pause there, James. No, I was just thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I'm like, no, it's fun. Because, like, you know, he likes the little conversations and he's like, when do we get to the fighting? When do we got to start fighting? I'm like. So what about in the game, Sam, you said? Oh, that's what I was going to say to him. That's right. Amy Hennig, you're familiar with her?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yes. She's Uncharted. She's Uncharted. She's Uncharted. She's gone. They don't know where she is. That's a bit of a no. She worked on the Uncharted franchise, I think one to three.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Anyway, she was also doing a Star Wars game, which is like a third-person narrative-driven thing, which was cancelled. Now she's over at Skydance New Media, which is a new game production company. Skydance is Tom Cruise? Yes, but this is the-
Starting point is 00:27:09 Does he own Skydance? I don't know. Maybe. Who knows what he owns? It's always in front of the Mission Impossibles, isn't it? Let me figure out his net worth. Yes. Do you think it's a billion?
Starting point is 00:27:18 It could be. It'd be at least half a million. It'd be at least half a million. At least half a million. $500,000 to a billion dollars. Half a billion, right? Do you reckon? You'd have to.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I reckon I'm going to say $700 million. Let's check. Okay, let's check. Tom Cruise net worth $600 million. Oh, I went over. Estimate. Yeah. But you don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:42 That's true. I don't know. And they don't know either. And they don't know. I don't know. You might be right. Maybe I am right, yeah. Yeah. But you don't know. It's true, I don't know. And they don't know either. And they don't know. I don't know. You might be right. Maybe I am right, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Anyway, so she's working on a narrative-driven blockbuster action-adventure game featuring a completely original story and take on the Marvel Universe. Whoa. So we know that they're working on a Wolverine at the moment. They're probably doing- How are we saying that? A Wolverine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:01 What did I say? I don't know. A Wolverine? I don't know what it was, but it went all the way through my brain and out the other side. I'm like, whoa, that felt unpleasant. How have we said that? A wolverine. Okay. What did I say? I don't know. A wolverine? I don't know what it was, but it went all the way through my brain and out the other side, and I'm like, whoa, that felt unpleasant. How about you said that? I said wolverine. Okay. Hey, it's me, wolverine.
Starting point is 00:28:14 It makes more sense that he'd be... I got the powers of a wolf. It makes more sense he'd be a wolf, right? And a submarine. Wow. Yeah. Two sets of powers. Anyway, so they're doing the Wolverine. They're doing another Spider-Man, presumably. They're probably doing another thing.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Well, they just did Guardians. And so we don't know what this is, though. What are you hoping for, though? What would you like? I've got mine already. I say this having an answer. Right. But what do you think? Serenity?
Starting point is 00:28:42 No. Is it time to bring back the Serenity franchise? As a marvel property yeah no okay i think it's 20th century fox let me just let me just check on in on that okay you just check in on that let me just do this let me put on my little glasses could you check could you check if tom cruise on skydance oh yeah that's what i was doing um man i mean so it's probably not it's not going to be a spider-man you wouldn't you would think unless it's going to be another spider-man maybe they're just going to knock one out yeah i don't think it would be so it's probably not going to be a Spider-Man, you would think, unless it's going to be another Spider-Man. Maybe they're just going to knock one out.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Yeah, I don't think it would be. So if it's Amy Hennig, so it might be in the style of an Uncharted. If I fly over at Fox now, I'm just going to chicken on Skydance. Excuse me. Yeah, go on. But Fox, that property would be owned by Disney now. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:31 isn't he now yes yeah uh see i would i would have thought like maybe like a like a a lower tier like a like a more grounded character like yeah like your hawkeye or something like that or captain america i maybe i mean because they but they did that in the avengers yeah that's true so i think this is what i want i would want daredevil. Okay, yeah, great. But you could also do it open world-ish, like Arkham, maybe probably a bit smaller than Arkham. Yeah. And then you could do like alleyways and, you know, when you go underground and stuff. And he could have detective vision.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I completely agree. I'm just checking. Tom Cruise, he's been associated with a lot of- Daredevil also has the powers of a submarine. Yes. So Tom Cruise has worked's been associated with a lot of- Daredevil also has the powers of a submarine. Yes. So Tom Cruise has worked with Skydance a number of times, some Mission Impossible things maybe, and Jack Reacher is Skydance,
Starting point is 00:30:18 but I don't believe that he's necessarily involved. Wow. No, I don't think he is. Okay. But he's not to say he hasn't worked with them and won't work with them again. James, nobody is saying he hasn't worked with them. I think there's people out there thinking that, and quite frankly I'm not here for it.
Starting point is 00:30:31 You think there's people out there who think Skydance have surreptitiously added their logo to the start of a bunch of his movies. He just doesn't know. Would you rule out if it's a blockbuster action-adventure game narrative-driven, like a hulk even because you do you want a big smashy world yeah that's true couldn't rule i mean you know obviously my thinking because this producer's worked on uncharted you know more of a two-fisted action thing but who's to say it you know it might be huge might be yeah it might be an eternals game
Starting point is 00:30:58 might be a i wonder would they do would they do something like a daredevil given that that character is not hot, hot stuff right now? Yeah, but I think he will be. I think they're going to start bringing him. And also, like, I was going to say Guardians isn't hot, but it is, isn't it? It sure is. It's too hot to try.
Starting point is 00:31:17 What else is hot, though? What has become, like, no, because they're doing a Black Panther. They did Black Panther DLC. Oh, they're doing a Black Panther, yeah, yeah. The Avengers. I wouldn't rule out any of the Avengers, though. That's true, yeah. They did Black Panther DLC. The Avengers. I wouldn't rule out any of the Avengers, though. That's true, yeah. What else is hot, hot stuff?
Starting point is 00:31:28 What's hot? Captain Marvel game. She was in that as well. Oh, right. Howard the Duck. Yeah, maybe. You could. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Just a classic gumshoe detective adventure. That'd be pretty fun. Cool. Should we move on? Yeah, let's move on. Last bit of news. If anybody has any suggestions, email in, let us know. Tell us.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I would love to hear. And if you actually know, tell us. If you actually know, tell us if you were having a chat with Amy Hennig. Yeah, tell her that you're not going to tell us, but then tell us. Yeah, just say, hey, listen, I'm not going to tell those fine, handsome gentlemen at the Weekly Planet. Award winning. Award winning, that's right.
Starting point is 00:32:02 They won that award that time. They forced it. They made it happen. time. They forced it. They made it happen. Yeah. They didn't think, James didn't go because he didn't think he was going to win it regardless. So he wasn't there to accept the award. Maceo was at work.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Which I want to do again, just to be clear. I want to not go and win. Claire was there though. Yeah, Claire was there to accept our award. Yeah, she was wearing three tuxedos. All of our tuxedos together. Anyways, the Eternals, which we are seeing this week. Tomorrow, right?
Starting point is 00:32:30 That's right. Next week we're going to, well, by the time this goes out, yeah, around then. Yesterday. Yeah. Next week will be our Shang-Chi slash Eternals episode. Yeah, so if you haven't seen it. We could have done it this week, but we thought,
Starting point is 00:32:42 spookiest time of the year. Spookiest time of the year. Et cetera. Sex time. Sex time. Yeah. Got that under the wire. Yeah, so if you haven't seen it. We could have done it this week, but we thought spookiest time of the year. Spookiest time of the year. Et cetera. Sex time. Sex time. Yeah. Got that under the wire. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:49 My tax return takes like two minutes. Yeah. I'm just like. Mine takes a little bit longer. Well, Claire does it. For one. But because it's, you know, it's different streams of revenue and whatever, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But The Eternals has the lowest Rotten Tomatoes score of any MCU film. At the moment of recording this, it has hit 59%, which is also the first rotten score for an MCU film. Interesting. I mean, it's certainly not the first rotten score for a Marvel film or a comic book film. Certainly not.
Starting point is 00:33:21 No, they're much lower. How many, here's a question for you, James. How many reviews does it have by comparison to other Marvel movies? At this point, less, because it's mostly like, your big LA critics are getting in early, do you know what I mean? Normally the big LA critics.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Siskel and Ebert are getting in. One of them, because one of them's dead. The other one. I thought they were both dead. No, one's alive. Is Roger Ebert still alive? Yes, I want to say, but I don't know which one's alive. But normally they're like, it's spellbounding. I couldn't keep my eyes off the screen. I looked the whole time. That's right.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I couldn't look away. They wouldn't let me. I tried to go to the toilet and they punched me in the face. They said, piss in your seat. Piss in your seat, reviewer. Do it. All you piss in your seat, even if you your seat, reviewer. Do it. All you piss in your seat, even if you don't really need to go right now,
Starting point is 00:34:09 you piss in your seat. But yeah, this is the scene where the Eternals are drowning in piss and we want to add a fourth dimension to the movie experience. We have monsters. We want them wet for the next patrons that come in those seats.
Starting point is 00:34:26 So anyway, I didn't enjoy the experience really So I gave it a rotten review Because of the piss, mostly First of all, people need to bear in mind with Rotten Tomatoes And I know most people who listen to this probably know this They only take like a positive or a negative score Yes So 59% could also mean like the people who are negative Were just like, it was not that great, like not terrible
Starting point is 00:34:44 So that's a negative And same for a positive If you just like, it was not that great, like not terrible, so that's a negative. And the same for a positive. If you're like, it was fine, that's a positive. You can get 100 reviews that say it was fine and get 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. That's exactly right, yeah. And obviously all movies are subjective, et cetera. But people are also saying a big part of this is it's different. And a lot of people are saying this is objectively bad.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ebert, he was like, I'm not dead, number one. And secondly, this is objectively, like this is the first movie that is objectively bad and nobody likes it or could like it. But, I mean, he says that, but it's still on 59% positive, which is a pass. I used to get some, like, tests back at uni that were like 59%
Starting point is 00:35:22 and I'm like, fuck yeah. I didn't do anything. I shouldn't have got that. But good. I deliberately got many things wrong in hopes that I would fail. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. So, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Anyway, I'll be very interested to see what it's like. Also, I like – Why are they saying – sorry, go ahead. It's kind of a drag. The story's muddled. It's like there's too many people and it spans too long to kind of do any of it justice. Some characters are unappealing.
Starting point is 00:35:50 These are just bits and pieces that I don't remember any of this properly. Sure, sure, sure. So there you go. All right. Anyway, we'll find out, won't we? We'll talk about it next week, what we think. Some of the actors refer to themselves as the internals for the entire movie.
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Starting point is 00:37:06 Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. What did we do there? That's right. We didn't notice when they said it. Yeah, we've been on Earth 5,000 years. We're the internals. Excuse me? The internals? Yeah, that's right. We didn't notice when they said it. Yeah, we've been on Earth for 8,000 years.
Starting point is 00:37:25 We're the internals. Excuse me? The internals? Yeah, that's fine, I reckon. They're just leaving in busted takes in this movie. They're just leaving them in. Good stuff. Mason.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yes. It's the spookiest time of the year in the tax time. Halloween Kills. Yes. It went to streaming and cinemas this year. It actually did very well. Interesting. Because, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Halloween's the spookiest time of the year. Spookiest time of the year. The last one did very well, I think. Yep, that's right. I don't have many box office numbers because, you know, whatever. But it did all right. I didn't like it. I don't think it was very good.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I think it's a bad movie. I think overall it's a bad movie. I know a lot of people have said, like, the kills are good and whatever. Yeah, that's okay. And that's probably true. They're as grisly as you would expect. Yeah, but, like, I don't know. Was that you twisting your head?
Starting point is 00:38:15 I was twisting your head, yeah. That's right. No, I was twisting a little man and I was twisting a big bottle cap off, off a ketchup. What are you making? A big hot dog. Okay. I you making? A big hot dog. Okay. I've got a really big hot dog.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Are you going to eat the whole thing? Yeah. Why? And I'm going to have a big tum afterwards. Oh, that's not a good idea. I'm going to be sleeping on a tiny little cushion that's my bed and I'm going to have a big tum and I'm going to be like. Do you have to jump on the sauce bottle?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. Like a little trampoline? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fun. Yeah. That's a fun visual. Me, me, me, me, me, me. I think.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I've got a little handkerchief over me as a blanket, yeah. Yeah, or like a napkin or whatever. Yeah, sure. Okay, so I think what this should have been, again, as somebody who's never made anything and doesn't know what he's talking about. Correct. This could have been a 10-minute in-between call of this and the next one. A webisode.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah, or something like that. An NFT. Great. You don't know the plot unless you get the NFT. For a euro or whatever they're selling things for. And, you know, like they did with that Jurassic World short. Oh, yeah. Do that. Or, because there's pre they did with that Jurassic World short. Oh, yeah. Do that.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Or, because there's prequel elements to this of the night that Michael Myers first did his murders and then they catch him. Yes. Through one of those two things. Yeah. Because I found the flashbacks to the 70s where Michael does his final killings or whatever and he falls out the window and they think he's dead, then he's off.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And then they're in the neighbourhood looking for him. And, like, it's probably 20 minutes of this movie in that. I think that looks extremely good, though. Agreed. I spent, like, at least a minute going, is this old footage? Yeah. Well, there must be because, like, Loomis is in some of it as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But here's the thing. So what I think happened is. Any spoilers? Is there anything to spoil? Yeah, I mean, there is. But here's the thing, though, about this movie is that I think after the – when they made the last one, Halloween 2018, the reboot, I think they went, if this does okay,
Starting point is 00:40:17 we can probably squeeze out another movie from this. We can squeeze out a story that finishes off. Like a big sauce bottle. That finishes off. And thank you out a story that finishes off and thank you. And we'll have and because they've erased from continuity all the other sequels we'll have a trilogy.
Starting point is 00:40:34 We'll have Halloween 1978, we'll have Halloween 2018, then we'll have Halloween Kills, I guess is the last one. But then Halloween 2018 did really, really well and they went we've got enough story for one more movie. Let's make two movies. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And we'll do nothing for this one. And then the finish will happen in a year's time. It feels to me like I had the same criticism with John Wick 3, I think. Which is that the thing about John Wick 3 was John Wick ends up in exactly the same position. He was on the run. He was on the run at the end. Because he didn't use the right coin or something. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Or he broke a pact in a hotel lobby or something. That's the thing. And the movie ended exactly the same way it started, where he was injured on the run and then he gets his groove back and then some assorted action sequences and at the end he's on the run again because he broke a pact or something. He got the wrong coin. He got the wrong coin.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And I'm like the story of this was total filler and the only thing that made it an enjoyable view is if you enjoyed the action sequences and the kills and et cetera. And I feel like this is kind of the same. I'd like to John Wick 3 better, quite frankly. Whoa. They went to the desert. He fought those two men at the end.
Starting point is 00:41:52 There were some dogs and how they buried together. That's right. At last. At last. Famously never worked with dogs. Really? I don't know. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Imagine making that promise and breaking it. How could you even live with yourself? That's right. Probably after Catwoman. I don't know. Something to do with that. Anyway, go on. But this movie, I feel it's not exactly the same,
Starting point is 00:42:10 but I kind of feel like they went, just squeeze another one out. And the problem that happens with this is that if you need to have Michael Myers at the end just viable for another movie, it requires all the other characters to act really, really dumb. Yeah. And I know that, like, some of that is down to the tropes of the genre where, like, you know, you think you've got the killer
Starting point is 00:42:39 but then you turn your back on him and he gets up again or whatever. Yeah. But in, like, now making a kind of horror movie like this, everybody seems so stupid in this movie. It makes everybody stupid. And he's immortal, it seems. Oh, okay. Should we?
Starting point is 00:42:56 Well, not really, but mortal. He becomes immortal in some of the movies, maybe. He's a demon's curse or some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's see how far we can get without spoiling anything. Okay, well, why don't we do this? So a lot of the movie is like the town gets in a frenzy and some of the people who work this frenzy up get to a real phone event.
Starting point is 00:43:16 A mob rule. A mob rule. Which is bad and good. Yes. That's what this movie is telling us, that mob rule is bad, then it's good. But then make sure you do it properly. Do a proper mob rule. God.
Starting point is 00:43:29 God, get a proper mob going. And I didn't mind that idea because some of the people who froth up that mob, some are returning actors from the very first movie. Also, just to clarify, the only ones that are canon in this timeline is 1978 and the 2018 ones. They threw out everything in the middle. Laurie Strode being the sister of Michael Myers, none of that is relevant anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Unless they reveal that at the end. Yeah, but like why? But also what's interesting about that is that we get Anthony Michael Hall in this, who I like, I think he's delightful. Who Paul Rudd played in a previous. Ah, you think they get Paul Rudd? I think they went to him, but he was doing Ghostbusters or something. Ah, that's a mistake.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Or is it at this point? Which one's a mistake? I don't know. It doesn't matter. We haven't seen Ghostbusters. We haven't seen Ghostbusters yet. But in the sense that they got rid of the old continuity, at a certain point, Anthony Michael Hall goes like,
Starting point is 00:44:18 Michael, he's been terrorizing this town for 40 years. No, he hasn't. In the previous continuity, he was terrorizing this town for 40 years. But in this hasn't. In the previous continuity he was terrorising this town for 40 years. But in this continuity he killed a few people in 1978 and they put him in an asylum for 40 years. And he didn't do anything. He didn't do anything for 40 years. And now he's back and he's – you've got an odd definition
Starting point is 00:44:37 of terrorising a town, I think. You know? Yeah, but they end up chasing like another guy who's like a homeless vagrant. Yeah, well, he's also escaped from an institution. But he's like, and so there is this like mob mentality is bad, except until it's not. It's kind of, you know, idea, which I don't think is a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:44:56 You know what I mean? And again, returning characters and people who had been affected by Michael Myers or people who, yeah, like he'd come across them directly or kill people that he knew. Yeah. And I liked how they worked that in. And then they coupled that with flashbacks. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Which again, which one of the cops was Jim Cummings, who I'm going to talk about in another movie later. Yes. Which was a bit of fun. But it just, let's do spoilers. Okay. I'm going to say worst movie ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:22 But you should watch it. You should watch it. I mean, if you see it for worst movie ever. But you should watch it. You should watch it. I mean, see it for free. Yeah, if you can get it. I'm going to bring back our rating of don't risk your life. That's probably a good idea. By that I mean don't go out on Halloween night. Very good.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Because an auditor will get you from the IRS. There's a moment. What are you claiming? You can't claim your regular Closers at Work uniform. You can't do it. It's against the IRS. There's a moment. What are you claiming? You can't claim your regular clothes as a work uniform. You can't do it. It's against the law. Judy Greer gets his mask and she goes, Laurie Strode's sort of in this but she's badly injured
Starting point is 00:45:54 so she can't really go out. She's not in this movie really. But I think that's good though. She's bed bound. Because she was fairly injured in the last one. That's true. So I don't mind that. And this takes place immediately after the one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Yeah, which the same way. This one is still taking place in 2018. Yeah, and like it's the night off. So he gets out, he kills a bunch of firefighters and whatever. Which I think is in the trailer. Yes. And so he's on the loose again. And it turns out that his motivations.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Are we doing spoilers now? We are. We're in spoilers, folks. Turns out his motivations, and we thought it was like tied to Laurie Strode because that was one of his first attempted victims. But he just wanted to look out that window that he likes. And I didn't mind that idea of like he's not tied to any one person. He doesn't have any vendettas.
Starting point is 00:46:32 He's just mindless. He's kind of like Doomsday. He just goes towards a thing and he'll kill anybody that's in his way. But off the back of the last movie, he was shot, I think, in the side of the head. He got some of his fingers? Yeah, he lost some fingers. He got stabbed quite a few times.
Starting point is 00:46:49 And then he gets shot four to five times in this, plus stabbed a few. And he was on fire at one point. And he was on fire at one point. And he's old. And he's 1,000. He's 70 years old, if he's a day. But on top of that, so she takes his mask, which is his only kind of weakness or one of his
Starting point is 00:47:06 motivations. His William Shatner mask. That's right. Do you think William Shatner gets a free mask? Yeah, a free mask when he goes to watch Halloween. Would it fit him? I guess it would fit him perfectly. No, his head's too big now. His head's gotten bigger. It would fit a young 1970s William Shatner perfectly. But what I'm saying is, do you think he gets
Starting point is 00:47:22 money for likeness rights? I think we've talked about this. Yeah, we probably did it last year. I'll look it up. But so they, well, while I'm looking this up, why don't you explain it? Which part? How they trap him. The mob. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:34 The angry mob. Yeah. Well, they surround him in a street. Yep. And they attack him with various implements. And they go, what up, bro? This is the wrong neighbourhood. Don't you know we're going to beat you up?
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah, evil dice tonight, baby. Yeah. And then they beat him up for a bit and they shoot him a couple more times and they hit him with baseball bats and stuff and rakes and things probably. And they've got him down. And then they just leave him for a bit and then he gets up. Well, no. The nurse comes forward.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yes. Or maybe this was earlier. I think it's this part. No, it's not. Well, no. The nurse comes forward. Yes. Or maybe this was earlier. I think it's this part. No, it's not the nurse. The nurse is in it earlier. Yes. So there's the nurse from the first movie. It's the same actor.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And she comes up and goes to shoot him at one point. She goes, this is for Dr. Loomis. Right? Yeah. And the only link that she had to Dr. Loomis was she happened to be the nurse that drove him that night. That's right. They weren't friends it seems. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And on top of that, I looked up the Wikipedia of Dr. Loomis and if you go again in that alternate timeline, then Dr. Loomis battles Michael Myers for decades. Yes. And maybe eventually, I think he's eventually killed by him or whatever. But in this one, he just dies at some point. Yes. So like.
Starting point is 00:48:42 This is for wasting Dr. Loomis' time. That night. He did all kinds of theses and wasting Dr. Loomis' time. That night. He did all kinds of theses and things on it and he never published a book on it. The book publishers never paid him in advance for this book. Yeah. And it's like that only makes sense if all the other movies are in continuity.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, it's weird. Or you even said that Dr. Loomis was killed by Michael in the hospital or whatever. And maybe that's true. But like. This movie wants to have its cake and eat its two. Dr. Loomis was killed by Michael in the hospital or whatever. And maybe that's true. But, like, I don't know. This movie wants to have its cake and eat its two. It wants to be like we're in a new continuity, so new rules apply. But also you should be scared of Michael Myers because of all the previous
Starting point is 00:49:16 movies that don't exist anymore kind of thing. If there was a guy, like, in my neighbourhood and 40 years ago he killed, like, three people, no one would care. And I don like three people. Yeah. No one would care. And I don't mean. I mean, they would care if he was here now. Yeah, if he came back. But they wouldn't be like. He's been around forever.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yeah. Occasionally it would be mentioned probably. But people wouldn't be like, we've been living in fear for decades because of the man who killed three people. You're right, it wouldn't. That'd be like, hey, it'd be the most interesting thing that ever happened in this town. That's certainly true. But there would be more curiosity behind it more be like, hey, it would be the most interesting thing that ever happened in this town. That's certainly true.
Starting point is 00:49:45 But there would be more curiosity behind it more than like this is the shadow on this town that's going to bury us all and whatever. Dumb. But speaking of dumb, so, again, they surround him and they have got guns and what have you and they beat him up, this man in his 60s or 70s, however old he is. Yep. And then they're like, we got him. Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:09 And we still have these guns and bats and things. Should we kill him? Nah. Let's just leave him for a bit. Well, that guy was going to come up and he's like, this is because you killed my daughter, Michael Myers, the cop. And then he does a big murder. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:23 He does all the murders on everybody. And Anthony Michael's like, ah, maybe I shouldn't have done this movie. But then there's a bit where Judy Greer has, like, stabbed him in the back with a thing. Big thing. A thing. He gets shot, like, four times. What's the thing?
Starting point is 00:50:37 What do you call the thing? Umbrella? Nope. Knife. No, bigger than that. It's like a rake. It's a big fork. Oh, yeah, like you get a hay bale.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah, like a big hay bale fork. Yeah. You get stabbed like a big hay bale. Yeah, see, that I can kind of be like, yeah, I'd probably miss some stuff or whatever. Yeah, but then she doesn't get him again. No, I know. She just leaves him.
Starting point is 00:50:56 You go straight for the head. You just put it right through his head. Because you know he's going to get up again. You could go to the police and say, I thought he was reaching for a gun. Yeah. His signature gun. I thought he was reaching for his signature gun and he was in my house so i or in somebody he's in somebody's house so i stabbed him through i think you'd get away with it but i like and i and i think the implicate you know what what what seems to be the reveal is and maybe we'll
Starting point is 00:51:18 see maybe the the the magic or the science of it will be revealed in the next one but it is that every time he kills somebody he grows more powerful so i guess they driven by a blood they technically couldn't kill him but i think you should try yeah like i think i think that if you want that to be if you want it to be vaguely supernatural i think they should have shot him in the head a couple of times and then he just gets up again and then we would go ah it's the evil i think that's too far though because i think, and I was reading an interview with the director and he was saying that like he's not immortal, like he has limitations.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Okay. But he's like, but he does borderline impossible things. But I think it goes over that. Yeah, it really absolutely does. Yeah. Like if you get a 60-year-old man, 70-year-old man, however old he is, I think he's 60. Sure.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Because he was 18. 18 maybe in the first one. Yeah, in the first one. If you get a 60-year-old man and you like hit him in the back of the legs with a baseball bat, he's not coming up again. Nobody is. He's probably got osteoporosis. I mean, he doesn't run.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Do people still talk about osteoporosis? Maybe. Not enough something? Yeah, not enough something or too much of something. Yeah. But it makes all your bones brittle. And, you know, he's strong and whatever, I guess. But what's he been doing?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Leg lifts? Some people are just strong. He's doing the dentist from always in Philadelphia, the Hummingbirds, where he's constantly like Ted Segan. Right. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:44 He also subscribes to the dentist system for picking up women. William Shatner said this. This is from Reddit. It's from PD Judd who says, no, there's no agreement to use his likeness. It wasn't necessary since the company that made him already paid him in use for a general market item.
Starting point is 00:53:02 So if you see a can of Coke in a movie, Coke isn't getting a percentage of the sales either. It's a marketing agreement. So he does not get paid. Interesting. Okay. item. So if you see a can of Coke in a movie, Coke isn't getting a percentage of the sales either. So it's a marketing agreement. So he does not get paid. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:53:10 But he got to go to space. He did. Yeah. But all I'm saying is there's no way that guy's getting up. Like I don't care how much rage you're fueled by. Yeah. You were a very old man who's been shot repeatedly. What if he was like shot and he was on the ground and they left him
Starting point is 00:53:23 and then in the next movie you find out that he was hospitalised and they fixed him and then he got up again? Would that be? But then you don't get his revenge kills. That's true. Maybe he's got an oven door under there. Maybe Back to the Future 3 did. And he's under his mask on both sides.
Starting point is 00:53:36 That's right. And anyway, he kills Judy Greer, but I don't think he does. I think she's alive. Do you think so? Yeah. We didn't see her head get twisted all around, did we? No, and that's the mark of something. Do you think so? Yeah. We didn't see her head get twisted all around, did we? No. And that's the mark of something. Do you think that, how did she die?
Starting point is 00:53:49 He stabbed her. She was at his window. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, it's my window. Do you think that there'll be a last minute rescue at the start of the next one? Yes. Well, actually, speaking of. Jamie Lee Curtis will show up.
Starting point is 00:53:58 For your time jump. Oh, right. Okay. So by the time it comes out, which will be maybe next Halloween. Yeah, Avengers Endgaming it. Let me check. Yes. We cut to present day and, like, the entire world is in flames.
Starting point is 00:54:12 The entire world's been destroyed because he's done an intercontinental tour and everybody's like, we shot him a bunch of times and then we turned our backs and he stood up and he killed everybody in the country. Oh, here we go. Halloween ends. Yes. October 14th, 2023.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Not really. Wink. Wink. Yeah. Next year. That's good. Big fan. Big fan.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Halloween kills. Also like- James, Halloween kills more like Halloween fills a bit of time. You're not wrong. This guy's not wrong. Sometimes he's just, he just nails it. You know what I mean, everybody? I didn't even have to line it up. It's like he pre-lined it up. I don't know how he did it. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Also, like, it feels like there is a disconnect between this and the previous movie because like, what's her name? The main girl in this, Jamie Lee Curtis's granddaughter, like her dad was murdered. I, but when I started the movie, I went, hang on, I don't. All right. I just watched a five-minute YouTube recap. I was just like, who's dead? What happened? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Okay. Where are those podcasters? They're dead. They all got killed in a bathroom. Killed in a bathroom. Yeah. Anyway. But look, I like a lot of the ideas behind this guy.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Yeah. But there needs to be a few more consistency. And some of these holes can be plugged in the next one, but also like maybe just move it along, you know? Yeah. I don't need like a callback to be like, well, actually, there's a lot because I missed this vein and whatever, and I don't know. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Or even like, I don't know. I don't even know what I'm talking about. It's just, just, just, just, just, just bring back H2O. Yeah. Yes. Just add water. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Are you excited for the next one? Maybe. How does he even get away? How was this man getting away? Yeah, good question. Motorbike? Vespa. Is he on a Vespa?
Starting point is 00:56:03 Is he? Is there a deleted scene where he rented a Vespa. He can drive a van, right? Yes. He did in the last one. We haven't even mentioned that they kill that guy from the asylum. And it's just real brutal. Well, they don't kill him, but he falls off the... Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's
Starting point is 00:56:18 because they get... They don't necessarily cut to him. Yeah, his head is just a just an exploded pumpkin. Yeah. Which is very seasonal, it turns out. Anyway, should we move on to some other things? Yes. Do we have anything else to say about Halloween Kills?
Starting point is 00:56:32 No. All filler, just filler. Yeah. Like that famous album. Halloween filler. Anyway, so we thought we'd bring some ideas of our own, some Halloween-themed treats. And don't panic.
Starting point is 00:56:46 We're not saying we're pitching our own spooky movies. We've just watched them. That's what I've done. Oh, then I have too. Thank God. Here we go. All right, do you want to talk about the thing that we watched together and then some different things?
Starting point is 00:56:57 Yes, but not together together. No, we watched it separately, independently, but we both have thoughts. Yes. So we both watched, though i'd watched this a while back and i didn't re-watch it oh it's called the wolf of snow hollow yes uh jim cummings who is the police officer in the flashback is the director and star of this do you want to read out the synopsis yes i did a movie called thunder road which i haven't seen yet that's good right yeah
Starting point is 00:57:17 yeah it's a stressed out police officer struggles not to give it give into the paranoia that grips his small mountain town as bodies turn up after each full moon basically there's a big werewolf running around i mean is is it a wolf is it a man is it a werewolf man what is it we don't know yep uh but there's just a full moon and uh and uh people have been torn to shreds yep in in a way that seemingly suggests that it's somebody with a mind of a human, but it's so savage that it's also like, but it must also be a wolf. Am I finding fur and maybe? Yeah, so what's the deal with this guy? Let's not spoil it, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I don't think so. If you haven't seen it, you should have. But also Jim Cummings plays a cop on the edge. He's an alcoholic and he's got anger management issues. He's just losing it, mate. I mean, it's a fine line because obviously you don't want to be like that. I love this. I love this dude.
Starting point is 00:58:15 He's a real Rick, you know. He's a real Rick Sanchez. He's awful. But he's awful, but it's funny. He's very good at it. He's just bouncing between like just this manic rage and he's just kind of like. And incompetence.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And he's screaming. It's very funny. Yeah. And it's got, so it's got Jim Cummings, it's got Ricky Lindholm. Yep, yep. Who's very funny. It's got Robert Forster. That's his last role I think.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah, one of them at least, yeah. Did you end up seeing Jackie Brown? I've never seen Jackie Brown. He's in that. Yes, you did mention that. And he plays his father. And Robert Forster was obviously quite ill at the time. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And you see that in the character. But they've written it in. They've written it in. So I think it works quite well. I mean, he was real life sick. So, you know, not ideal. But they're a good pairing as well. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:04 And he's got a daughter, doesn't he? He's got like an estranged daughter. Yeah. And he's sort of, you know, and he is the, his dad is the. The chief. The chief. And so he's sort of, the additional pressure of he's kind of like he's trying to look after his dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:18 But also he's trying to be the leader because his dad isn't quite up to it. But he's not up to it either. People don't respect him. He's not really much of a leader himself. Yeah. It's interesting. I don't necessarily like, I don't know if the horror comedy, like the scariness and the comedies always kind of like balances out well,
Starting point is 00:59:37 but I think it's a very good watch. I really enjoyed the reveal as well. Yeah. So of what it ends up being, you know what I mean? And again, if you haven't seen it i'm not i don't want to spoil it yeah but i think it's a good kind of twist on the kind of werewolf would you say in because i didn't see it coming necessarily would you like i i know i know what i know what the deal really no i didn't and but i wonder if we went back and re-watched yeah it's
Starting point is 00:59:59 definitely all there yeah and again not to spoil it but there's a moment where there's, like, the reveal. Like, he figures it out and you can, well, I figured it out at the same time as him and I'm like. Because it was on the screen. Yeah, I'm like, oh, okay. And it was, like, quite a cool reveal of, like, how they do it. I think he's great. I love that he's, like, making these kind of movies.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah. And he's just like, I'm fucking in this as well. Where did this guy come from? Yeah. I think, did he? Okay, so well. Where did this guy come from? Yeah. I think did he? Okay, so what it is, so Thunder Road is a remake of a short film that he made and the short film is all meant to look like one take. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Thunder Road is not like that, but it's. Yeah. I'm going to just check out what the other things that he's done. He looks like a guy. He does look like a guy. He's got a leading role kind of look. Yeah. So what's Thunder Road about?
Starting point is 01:00:48 He's also a cop, I think. An army man? Hang on, so I'm just checking. Came out in 2018. So he's 34. This guy's killing it, mate. Look at this guy. Make it waves.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Make it waves, mate. He is. But he's also got that, like when I saw this movie and it said directed by Jim Cummings, I'm like, is that the Dean from Community? Well, there's a voice, no, that's Jim Rash. Yes. There's a voice actor called Jim Cummings as well.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Ah, I can't remember. Yeah, he's been doing a bunch of stuff over the years. And then we watched some stuff separately. Yes, so on top of that, I also watched the movie Don't Breathe or Don't Breath. Yes, it's Don't Breath.. Have you seen Don't Breath? I haven't seen Don't Breath, but I know there's that and there's a sequel. There is, which apparently isn't great.
Starting point is 01:01:30 So when did Don't Breathe come out, like 2016? 2016, yeah, that sounds about right. Now this is about some people that decide they're going to rob a house and they're going to get away with it because the guy who owns the house is blind. And they're pretty sure he's got a certain amount of money, but it turns out he's that psychopath from Avatar. And he's blind. And he's very muscular.
Starting point is 01:01:48 He's a bit old, but he's very muscular. And then once they're in that house, they're like, oh, no, like this guy's blind. Do you know what it is kind of? It reminded me of like Alien and Pitch Black. He's like a movie monster in himself, this dude. Yeah, right. And so like there's moments where he can walk right like breeze right
Starting point is 01:02:06 past them and not hear them and it's a bit inconsistent I guess and it felt also like you know that game Alien Isolation where you're in a cupboard and you're like if I just just be real quiet maybe he won't maybe don't breathe yeah and there's moments where like they take their shoes off so they don't
Starting point is 01:02:22 squeak the floorboards but then like he could smell their shoes because you know like bad feet and whatever and there's moments where like they take their shoes off so they don't squeak the floorboards. But then like he could smell their shoes because, you know, like bad feet and whatever. Yeah, right. And there's like things like that. So, yeah, he's just like a mean, terrible person. And now they're in his domain and maybe he's got some other mean, terrible things going on in his house.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Oh, I see. Right. But then apparently there's like some irredeemable stuff. And apparently the sequel, which I wanted to squeeze in, but I didn't quite have time, like redeems him. They make him more of like an anti-hero. And it's like, not to spoil the things that happens in this one, but it's like there's not really any coming back from if you are this guy.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Right, right, right. You know? Cheats on his taxes. Cheats on his taxes. And I was like, God damn. Not the time. Not the time, Guy from Avatar. Are you a billionaire?
Starting point is 01:03:01 No. Are you getting government subsidies? No. Then you shouldn't cheat on your taxes. You should pay more taxes than certain billionaires we won't name. Yeah. But, like, if you like Alien, it's kind of like Alien in a way. Yeah, because they're blind also.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And, again, pitch black, same thing. Those creatures are also blind or something. Well, speaking of trapped in a room. Ooh. I watched. Escape Room. No. Escape Room Tournament of Champions. I didn't watch either of those, but they did come up. blind or something well speaking of trapped in a room oh i watched escape room no i the escape room tournament of champions i didn't watch either of those uh but they did come up uh but i watched
Starting point is 01:03:31 willie's wonderland yeah we've mentioned in passing on the podcast but i hadn't seen it i had that choice sorry what's that on prime or something i saw it pop up stan okay cool um but i had the choice because he's nicholas cage has done a sort of a trio of these sort of movies. Yeah. Well, not these sort of, in the last three years he did Mandy and he did Color Out of Space. Which is the one where he's a parent and he wants to kill his kids or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:55 That's Mandy. That's Mandy, okay, yeah. And Color Out of Space is the H.P. Lovecraft one. Yeah. But I'm like, this is the newest one and we have mentioned in the past and I'm like, I've got to get into this. And it is bizarre. In a good way. Yes. Well, so here's the thing, and I'm like, I've got to get into this. And it is bizarre. In a good way.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yes. Well, so here's the thing. For people who don't know, the premise is he's a guy who shows up in this little town. He's driving his car through, and he hits one of the- Is it a Camaro? It is a Camaro. I knew it.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Well, it's a brand-new Camaro, but here's the thing. Where'd he get it? There's the thing. The Camaro shop Camaro, but here's the thing. Where'd he get it? There's the thing. The Camaro shop. Probably. But here's the thing. So he hits one of those police spike strips and blows at his tires and they're like, oh, the cops have left it out or what, by accident.
Starting point is 01:04:34 So he gets towed into town and they're like. Wait, did they really leave it out by accident? James, I'm not going to tell you. It feels like they don't. So he gets towed into town and the guy at the car shop is like, okay, I can fix your tires. It's going to cost you $1,000. We don't take card.
Starting point is 01:04:49 But you can work it off if you go and you clean up Willie's Wonderland, which is this sort of broken down defunct family restaurant with all these animatronic animals in it. Does Nicolas Cage talk much? He doesn't talk at all. In the whole thing? He doesn't say anything. Occasionally he's like Or whatever
Starting point is 01:05:06 So he agrees to this By not saying anything And then of course Obviously the animatronics The animatronics come to life Five nights at Freddy's style And try to kill him While he's doing the cleaning
Starting point is 01:05:18 And also some kids They want to burn down The Willy's Wonderland Because there's monsters in it Because there's monsters in it Or unrelated No because there's monsters in it. Because there's monsters in it. Or unrelated. No, because there's monsters in it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Some spoil, do you mind being spoiled for the movie? A little bit, sure. You do? A little bit. I don't mind a little bit. Oh, okay, right. So basically, yeah, but they go in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:36 They end up in the place. So there's all these teens in there and Nicolas Cage, the janitor. Yeah. And it's just Nicolas Cage steamrolling these killer monsters that are killer animatronics that are killers for reasons I won't spoil, but everybody in the town just knows. And they just, why do they do it? Is it like to satiate them, these creatures?
Starting point is 01:06:01 Yeah. Like is it open during the day? No. Okay. It's not open at all. It's closed down. But what's fascinating. So they're feeding people to these creatures like is it open during the day no okay it's not open at all it's closed down but what's fascinating so they're feeding people to these creatures yes but why is it revealed why yeah it is revealed okay fair enough i mean tell me okay i won't tell you but but it's it's fascinating because it's just again it's just this kind of none of it really makes any sense. And Nicolas Cage's character is fascinating because, again,
Starting point is 01:06:28 I don't think it's a very good movie. It doesn't make a lot of sense. But I would watch 100 movies with this particular Nicolas Cage character in it because, again, like he rolls up to this town, he's got this brand-new car, he doesn't talk. Where did he get the car? Like did someone give it to him? Is he secretly rich? Did he steal it? We don't know because he doesn't talk where'd he get the car like did he was did someone give it to him is he secretly rich did he steal it we don't know because he doesn't talk and then he just shows
Starting point is 01:06:50 up and the guy's like do you want to do you want to clean an old restaurant and he's and he's just like okay and there's just all these scenes where he's just literally clean this there's he he kills a monster and then he just goes back to cleaning the restaurant. Like there's no – So he doesn't think to himself, oh, this is a stitch-up, mate. No, he isn't like – well, maybe he does, but he doesn't talk, so we don't know. But he doesn't like – it isn't like he kills one of the animatronics and he's like, well, better gear up and kill the rest.
Starting point is 01:07:17 He doesn't seem – he doesn't even seem particularly surprised that this place is filled with killer animatronics. And I would love to see more of these movies. And I like to think that on one side of America, Jack Reacher is going town to town, like, righting wrongs and people, you know. In his charge or whatever. Yeah, and, like, and, you know, people are like,
Starting point is 01:07:38 oh, we've got nowhere else to turn. Jack Reacher, and he goes and he beats up the crime lord or whatever in the town. But on the other side, Nicolas Cage's janitor is just going from town to town encountering just weird monsters and just beating them all up. And then they meet in the middle. They meet in the middle or they fight or they team up
Starting point is 01:07:54 or something, I don't know. But it's just, it's wild. Worth watching? Yes. Okay. Long? Doesn't seem like it would be. No, I think it's like 90 minutes.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And he doesn't even, like when the kids start getting killed, he doesn't seem like 90 minutes but and he doesn't even like when the kids start getting killed he doesn't seem to care at all but then sometimes you'll just come in and fight an animatronic yeah uh and he's he's he drinks a he he's got a little like a watch on yeah and sometimes the alarm goes off and he just goes into another room like in the middle of fighting an animatronic and he goes he's addicted to these like caffeinated monster energy drinks or whatever and he just goes and he drinks one and he plays pinball and then he comes back and he fights more animatronics. Who's this dude?
Starting point is 01:08:32 What's going on with this guy? Is he a secret millionaire? Is he a vagrant? Is he? I don't know. He's wearing petrol station sunglasses. What's his name? We never say.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Let me check. Let me check the cast list. You'll never know. What's his name? What's the movie station sunglasses. What's his name? We never say. Let me check. Let me check the cast list. You'll never know. What's his name? What's the movie called again? Sorry. Willy's Wonderland. He's listed as the janitor in the credits.
Starting point is 01:08:52 He's only a janitor for that night. I know. Crazy. Yeah. All I'm saying is I would watch 100 of these. And we? They don't even have to be supernatural. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Like he could just show up and there's some street toughs and he just beats them all up. of these. They don't even have to be supernatural. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you could just show up and there's some street toughs and he just beats them all up and then that's the movie. He's a wild man, mate. Yeah. I was going to say, wow, this made – no, it didn't. It made a lot of money. It didn't. It made half a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:09:17 It's not a lot of money. No. So they'll never do another one, which is a shame. It also came out at a pretty – oh, no, February of 2021. Huh. That's not a great time, actually, I guess. Cool. Well, I'll watch one more thing I want to talk about.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Okay, let's do it. This one's called The Empty Man, directed by David Pryor. It stars James Badge Dale, who you might know as one of the Iron Man extremist guys from Iron Man 3. Arl DeBaldon? Yeah, he's the one who gets, he wears the Iron Patriot armor, gets blasted in the chest. That dude.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Anyway, I feel like a lot of these movies, it's the spooky man. It's the boogity, boogity boy. You know what I mean? Yeah, sure. It's just like a whatever and a thing turns up. And then it's the spooky man versus the boogity, boogity boy in the sequel. Whoever wins, we lose. Is it going to be the boogity, boogity boy?
Starting point is 01:10:00 And it's like, you know, it's this thing and it's been around since whatever and it's a guy and maybe he's, you know, it's like a Candyman knockoff or whatever, which I actually should have watched in hindsight. I should have watched that Candyman movie. Just because it's got that Oscar-nominated guy, whatever, who cares? But it's a bit better than that and it didn't do very well. Nicolas Cage has won an Oscar. That's true.
Starting point is 01:10:24 For what? Leaving Las Vegas. I haven't seen it. Is there a little foster in Cage has won an Oscar. That's true. For what? Leaving Las Vegas. I haven't seen it. Is there a poster in it? I don't think so. I won't say it. Okay, great. So there's a cult kind of surrounding this entity.
Starting point is 01:10:34 And it's one of those things where, like, you summon it and then in three days it kills you and whatever. Sure, sure, sure. But they've built these people, this underground society, have built this whole religion around this entity. Okay. And trying to find out the secrets to kind of harnessing its power and worshipping this thing
Starting point is 01:10:48 in addition to it being this thing, if you do this thing, then it comes and kills you. So it's like an investigation but there's the added layer of like decades of people trying to exploit this particular entity for their own gain. But I think the problem with this for some people, and I didn't mind it so much, is it's kind of a bit surreal and what's real and what's not.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Okay, sure, sure, sure. I think the ending is, like, quite ambiguous. Okay. And it gets a bit kind of like, I don't know if that all kind of adds up in a way. Did you immediately go and watch the ending of this? I read a thing and I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, that's what I thought. You know what I do?
Starting point is 01:11:23 Because I watched the Wolf of Snow something. What's it called again? Snow Hollow. Snow Hollow. I watched it on YouTube because you can buy through YouTube. Yeah. And when I finished watching it, I went back to the YouTube menu and I scrolled like a couple of thumbnails to the right
Starting point is 01:11:37 and there was a video that spoiled the ending in the thumbnail. Oh, my God. And if I'd scrolled a couple of steps to the right before I watched it, I'd be like, oh, okay, I know how this ends. Yeah. And I don't think, I think that's definitely a movie you want to go in not knowing. I wanted to watch also Werewolves Within and whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:11:58 It's that Josh Rubin, he used to do like college humour stuff. Ah. And it's basically that game, Werewolf or whatever. You know what I mean? The social party game. Except it's in like a house and one of them is a werewolf or whatever. Werewolves Within. And he, it's interesting because he said this a few times,
Starting point is 01:12:15 he wants to do Darkman. He's like, give me Darkman. Oh, really? I want to do Darkman. And he could totally make a good Darkman movie, I feel. He's done a couple of movies and they've both been quite good, it seems. So there you go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Anyway, that's all the spooky stuff I've been watching. Claire and I also did a Halloween episode of Suggestible. If you're like, why should I vote for this show when I don't even know what it's about? You can check it out. That's right. It's linked below. Collings, who edits this, you can put it below,
Starting point is 01:12:42 where we did a spooky episode last week. And what we do every Halloween is, by popular demand, Claire has to, and it's mostly me, Claire has to watch a bunch of spooky stuff. Oh, yeah, she's been trying to do that recently. And hates it. Yeah. But she landed on some things which she quite liked.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I can't remember what it was, but she mentioned something that was very, very light on the scare. She's like, I can't handle this. Yeah, she's not equipped emotionally. Sure. But, you know. I think she's probably better equipped emotionally than either of us, which is why she can't watch any of these things.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah. She's not an awful robot. That's right. Do you know what it's time for, though? It's time for what we're reading. Yeah. What we're going to read. I think that's actually the right thing to suggest that it's time for, Mason.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Yes. Here we go. I'm doing a thing. Westworld. Whoa. What have you been reading? Mason, because we're doing it next week for the Book Club on this big sandwich.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Oh, yes. A private subscription service. Oh. I reread Spider-Man Life Story. I should get on that. Oh, yeah. We've got to record that this week yeah i haven't done it yet um it's very good and remains good and what i also managed to do
Starting point is 01:13:50 they there's six issues but they released an annual which is set within the universe but it follows specifically jay jonah jameson yes and it does a lot of the things that like you'd know for those people who don't know it follows spider-man's life but it's in real time so he starts with his origin in the 60s and it goes up to the modern day but in every era it touches upon like the major marvel events all right so they'll do like the clone saga whatever but they do it in different ways so it's not just and this is the time when ben reilly and whatever and sure like the symbiote's different whatever that's what the title card says this is the time when Ben Reilly or whatever. Yeah, but it's very good.
Starting point is 01:14:27 And so that's what I've been watching. I've written here also as a note to you, hot ones. But in case we didn't get to it. We covered hot ones. Maybe we'll both watch Stony Cats. Should we split an NFT? Yeah, let's give. $1,250 each.
Starting point is 01:14:40 $1,250 each. Did I say this on the show or not? That like you're giving them more money than money? Oh, yeah. No, you didn't, but I'll offer you did, yeah. Because if the price of Ethereum goes up, you're giving them more money. Yeah, and the price of currency does obviously increase over time. But, I mean, it could also go down.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Yeah, yeah. But, like, probably not. Yeah. Tell you what I've just started reading. It's an actual book, but never fear because it's a book about comic books. Thank God. I've started reading a book by Douglas Wolk called All of the Marvels. All of the Marvels?
Starting point is 01:15:10 So this man, Douglas, he read every Marvel comic book that's ever been published. Is this the guy who had to do it for Marvel or was this a different guy? Oh, was that the DC guy? We talked about that. That was the DC guy, yeah. So this was just independent of anything. Yeah, and he sort of – it's a –
Starting point is 01:15:27 Oh, my God. It's sort of an exploration of all the Marvel – because there's 27,000 Marvel comics. How long did he read this over? I don't know. Just got started. But he's apparently – the book is sort of all about kind of mapping Marvel comic storylines
Starting point is 01:15:45 to the real world and being like, okay, what was happening in the real world that influenced what is happening in the comic books and stuff like that and, you know, what did Marvel influence? Other cultural icons and movies and things like that. It's pretty interesting. Did he read the DC ones as well? Yeah, just for a laugh. Just for a laugh.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Oh, that would fry your brain. I think there's 29,000 Marvel comics now. Too many. I would imagine. How much did he skim? Probably heaps. So did he get physical copies of these? I don't think so, no.
Starting point is 01:16:14 He couldn't, obviously. No way. Unless they just delivered a truckload to his house. Yeah, and I guess, but not everything's available digitally, but also like most things are scanned now at this point. Yeah, I would imagine he could, yeah. But, yeah, that's fascinating because I don't – I would imagine no one has ever done that.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Like even if you're a Marvel collector, you might have them all. Yeah. But the odds of you having read them all are pretty slim, right? I wouldn't. I mean I guess his incentive was that he was writing this book. That's true, yeah. How much is the book to buy? I think it was like $35.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Did you get a physical copy? I did get a physical copy. Or an emotional copy? Well, I feel like the emotional copy now lives in my house, in my heart. My house and my heart. Have you got it in a special section of your house, this emotional copy? My coffee table? Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Yes. Terrific. That's really cool. I hadn't heard of that at all. When was it published? This year. Yes. Terrific. That's really cool. I hadn't heard of that at all. When was it published? This year. Recently. Today. I only heard about it recently.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Yeah, it came out today. I only heard about it recently, but I think maybe it's been out for a few months. Cool, cool, cool. Alright, great. Well, I have no complaints about any of that, Mason. You've done the right thing. Thanks. You going to finish it? Yeah. Great. I say that now. I know what you mean. Should we move to the next segment of the show? What do you want to do on that thing that you've You gonna finish it? Yeah. Great. I say that now. Yeah. I know what you mean.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Should we move to the next segment of the show? What do you want to do? Yes. Another thing that you've been doing and saying. That's, I think. I also watch Bad Times at the El Royale. Oh, you watch that again. Which I, yeah. And I think it's fine. I think it's better than The Hateful Eight. And I say probably. Okay, great. I'm just saying bad people in a room. I think it's good. Yeah, I went to look
Starting point is 01:17:41 for the Hateful Eight series. Okay. Because didn't they break it into parts for Netflix or something? Somebody said that. And it wasn't there, or they haven't done it yet. Okay, right. I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, because I just wanted to see how... My dad works at Quentin Tarantino Productions, and he gave me a copy, and I
Starting point is 01:17:58 think it's really good. Really? Yeah. But you didn't like the movie. Well, I think the series is better. Fleshes everything out. What have we got? So we've got the extended version. It did come out. Yeah, what's it on?
Starting point is 01:18:10 HBO Max? Oh, no, there's an extended version that's out, but there doesn't appear to be a – maybe there's not. I don't know, man. Anyway. I fixed the setting in my app that just auto-plays everything. You flicked that switch. That's fairly obvious.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Not obvious, James. You find it. I have. Great. Good work. You find it. I have. Great. Good work. But sometimes the switch is by itself. I'm really proud of you. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:18:31 And you don't sound proud. You sound vindictive. What's the next segment? I'm really mad, actually. What's the next segment of the show? It's called Letters. Yeah, let's do it. Letters, do it.
Starting point is 01:18:38 The classic one was letters, oh, letters. We love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. We're going to hear right now. We're going to do letters. Did you hear when I said letters do it? No. In fact, I think you've come up with that after the fact.
Starting point is 01:18:56 You're like, look at me, I'm so clever. I would have saved it for next week and pretended you came up with it next week. Yeah. You've ruined your chances here. Well, maybe I'll just do it. You absolutely blew this. I'll just do it next week then. Yeah, you probably are. You've ruined your chances here. Well, maybe I'll just do it. You absolutely blew this. I'll just do it next week then. Yeah, well, I will have forgotten by then, so.
Starting point is 01:19:09 In April 2019. Also, you can edit this out, so it'll. I won't, and Collings won't either. He won't either. If this is here, then he didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In April 2019, the streaming service Netflix released an extended miniseries version of the film split into four episodes.
Starting point is 01:19:22 And a show. I'm sure it wasn't there when I checked. Huh. Anyway, if you do want to reach the show. Yes. You can hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or hit us up in the Gmail, weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Hit us up in the Gmail.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Mason, have you got anything in the gmail.com today? This is from Ben. He says, I'm graduating and you helped. We didn't, but go on. No, we did. Hi, James and Mason. I hope you guys are well. I've been listening since I was 15. Wow. and you helped. We didn't, but go on. No, we did. Hi, James and Mace. I hope you guys are well.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I've been listening since I was 15. Wow. And I'm now finally graduating from Bournemouth University. 23? 22? 21? All of those ages. How long have we been doing this for? 100 years.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. So he's 115? He's 115 years old and he's the oldest man in the world and it's good to know that the oldest man in the world listens to this. I'm glad he's up to date on all the technology. I agree. I'm finally graduating from Bournemouth University with a first in media production
Starting point is 01:20:10 on Monday. Just wanted to thank you for the great podcast getting me through the ups and downs of uni. Congratulations! You guys really inspired me to get interested in audio and ended up being one of my primary focuses, so much so that my final graduate project was a pilot for a Justice League dark audio drama. Oh, cool! I was wondering, with all the podcasts you listen to,
Starting point is 01:20:26 do you ever listen to fictional narrative pods like The Sandman, for example? I still haven't listened to The Sandman. I did do a bit of that Wolverine one. Yeah, I like the Wolverine one. And I did Batman, the one where he gets his back broken. I did that at one point. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:20:39 And I quite like it. Ow, he says. Ooh. Ooh, that's smart. And I'm not talking about Maxwell smart. Because that's a different continuity maybe. That's a show I watch in my universe. Can I have an ice pack, please?
Starting point is 01:20:53 Anyway, it was great. That scene in particular, really moving. It holds emotional weight for me and I keep a special place for it on my coffee table. That's cool. That's great. Congratulations, man. You know what I was thinking the other day?
Starting point is 01:21:03 What's that? I bet there's at least one person out there who has listened to this at some point who goes on to make something just incredible. By coincidence. Yeah. Like, for their own volition. Yes, yes, yes. Not because of us.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Yeah, correct. But that would be so cool. Hmm. Yeah. Anyway. Like, somebody who makes, the person who remakes The Last Jedi listens to this. Oh, yeah. I wonder what that's up to now.
Starting point is 01:21:26 They've probably got like a billion dollars pledge. They must be filming that already, right? Probably making that right now. I mean the pandemic would have slowed it down, but now everything's kind of opened up again. I'd imagine it's white hot. And the NFTs are involved now. Yeah, that afternoon.
Starting point is 01:21:37 I bet you can buy an NFT for The Last Jedi remake. You get a little coin. They mint you a little coin and it's got Luke Skywalker on it. He's got two lightsabers. Yep. And you turn it. It's holographic. You turn it and he's swinging them.
Starting point is 01:21:49 He's killing Sith Lords with his lightsabers. Also, it's not a physical coin. Somebody has it, but it's not you. But you own the rights to that coin. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't see it or touch it. This is from I watch them just like blow up in the next 50 years.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Yeah, everybody we're rich except us. But like I don't want anything to do with... This is from I Watch Stuff. All right. We all watch stuff though, don't we? That's very true. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Have you seen this year's long Halloween movies yet?
Starting point is 01:22:18 They have the tone that's like a cross between the 90s animated series and HBO's Spawn with the depth of maturity I've been wanting in Batman animation for a long time. Huge, impressive surprise for me. I have been meaning to watch that because I'm a big fan of Long Halloween. Yes. And it looks good.
Starting point is 01:22:34 And have you? I have not watched it. There you go. There you go. And I've seen it on something and I went, ooh, we'll get to that, I reckon. Yeah. But speaking of Spawn, I did. I've recently re-watched Spawn for a podcast that's not out yet.
Starting point is 01:22:46 You loved it, didn't you? It sucks. You said Spawn's my favorite movie. You said you didn't think it was your favorite movie. That's what you went into it. And then you came out and you went, yep, this is better than the Hateful Eight series. I did say that actually, yeah. So that's true.
Starting point is 01:22:59 So I'll probably plug that next week. Is it the, I know that some of the special effects are quite startling in terms of how well they've held up, as in not at all. But is there stuff in it, is it because of that or are there a lot of other factors? There's so many other things. Also, here's a fun thing that I learned because I watched it on Amazon Prime with subtitles on because I often do that
Starting point is 01:23:21 because I love to read, James, is that some of the audio has been redubbed because it was a little bit offensive. Oh, yeah. But they haven't changed the subtitles. So sometimes you're watching the movie. Sorry, you told me this stuff, but you can't say it here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like you're a bit of a nincompoop or whatever.
Starting point is 01:23:41 That's the audio, but then the subtitles are a little bit rude. A bit rude. Wow, fascinating stuff. It's the audio, but then the subtitles are a little bit rude. A bit rude. Wow, fascinating stuff. There's also a moment in it where like Spawn's got his guns trained on the woman who killed him and she's like, you wouldn't have the guts. Why wouldn't he have the guts? He's back from the dead to kill you.
Starting point is 01:23:55 You killed him. You killed him. Does he kill her? I can't remember. Yeah, he shoots her right there. Wow. Turns out he did have the guts. That's Spawn.
Starting point is 01:24:03 That's Spawn. Sometimes he's no good. That's so Spawn. That's Spawn. Sometimes he's no good. That's so Spawn. That movie I snuck into cinemas to see. Whoa. And I remember at the time thinking, I don't think this is good, I think. And you're still there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:13 This is just a dream. This is just the movie Spawn I've been watching. That's right. Just dovetailed into this. Yep. He's an email judge. There we go. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:24 This is from Matthew Hello Matthew Hi James and Nick, don't know who that is I'm a big fan of your show, slowly making my way through all the episodes in reverse order As I write this email My question is about re-watching movies What movies do you think get better on a re-watch And what do you find get worse
Starting point is 01:24:39 Personally I've found that Tenet has been better on a re-watch As it allows a better understanding of the story I have heard that Whereas while I do still like them found that Tenet has been better on a rewatch as it allows a better understanding of the story. I have heard that. Whereas while I do still like him, some of the more quippy films don't fare as well. Yeah. I'm assuming he's talking about Marvel movies. Probably.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Comedies don't hold up well, I feel, a lot of the time. Yeah. You know, a lot of the like, this is a classic comedy and you watch it and you're like, this isn't much of anything. Oh, yeah. I don't know, human moves at such a clip, you know what I mean? Yeah. I find often like a heist movie or a mystery movie
Starting point is 01:25:11 holds up very well. A good one. But also, yeah, a good one. So like a Knives Out or something like that. Yeah. Because. You're looking at stuff. You're looking at stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:19 And like we mentioned earlier, you go back and you're like, oh, of course, when this happened, you could see a background character hiding the weapon or whatever. Exactly. It was right there. If they'd done well, all the information was right there. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:33 And even like little reactions that people have, you're like, oh, that's interesting. And every time I rewatch these I'm like, one day I'll be able to notice this stuff on the first viewing and I'll be able to figure out who the killer was. Yeah, I mean like I think you can do it through, like, deduction of just, like, eliminating. Oh, that's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:50 But, like, I think there is something, one of the good things about movies like that is that you don't pick it up. Yeah. Because if you picked it up and then you watched it, you'd be like, this isn't very interesting. I think it's so tricky. And I think, yeah, there is an incredible skill in, and it's like a magic trick, James,
Starting point is 01:26:11 but it's a misdirection of like a director can put the clue that solves the mystery in plain sight, but they're doing something else over here and you're drawn to that. That's right. A misdirect. A misdirect. A three-card Monty. Yes. I've got one more email, James. I love emails. This is from that. That's right. A misdirect. A misdirect. A three-card Monty. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Very good. I've got one more email, James. I love emails. This is from Adam. Hello, Adam. Friends made representing the Weekly Planet at NY Comic Con. Oh. What's up, James and Mason?
Starting point is 01:26:34 That's us. We're here. Went to New York Comic Con this past Sunday and had to represent the pod walking around in my Weekly Planet T-shirt. I was so excited just thinking about how sore my hand would be from all the high-fiving going on. After three hours of roaming the convention centre, not one fellow gem grabber approached me to say,
Starting point is 01:26:48 I loved your shirt. The Weekly Planet is also my sixth favourite podcast. Then twist, not long after taking the picture, you just sent a picture. Yeah. I finally hear, I love The Weekly Planet. Yes. I met Dee.
Starting point is 01:27:03 He said his name is Dee. I asked how it's spelled and he he said just the one letter Dee. Ooh. Who told me him and his brothers are also huge fans. We immediately became best friends and just as fast parted ways, but not before getting this picture of us. And there's a couple of boys. Look at these guys just hanging out.
Starting point is 01:27:19 They're cool dudes wearing their masks. They're wearing their shirts. I told Dee I was sending this story and the pics in for the letter segment. Would you please give Dee a shout out? And more importantly, can Dee please be the official New York Comic Con Weekly Whacka-Do of the pod? Oh, he's giving it up. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Wow, that is bold and brave. Good luck coming out of lockdown and be safe. That's from Adam, the official NYC dialogue coach of the pod. My favourite part of lockdown is that I'm no longer getting comments being like, how's communist bloody China, mate? Yeah. Although I do it occasionally. Yeah, we, how's communist bloody China, mate? Yeah. Although I do it occasionally. Yeah, we don't actually know.
Starting point is 01:27:47 I mean, probably bad. I would get bad. But also I love, look, I love that people are meeting now. They're having a great time. They're greeting. They're meeting and greeting. They're feeding. And I'm loving that we have a listener who's just like,
Starting point is 01:27:59 my name's just D, just a letter. That's very good. I like an eccentric listener. That's all the information you get. That's right. Cool stuff. Thank you for repping us. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:28:10 In the wild. Yes. It's from Mr. Melt. It says, hashtag weekly planet pod. I'm melting. Help. Oh, no. I'm stuck to my keyboard.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Hey, guys, what are some movies or moments? Ice cream of some sort. I'm a bubble, Bill. I've melted. My little ice cream face. My nose is not very good bubble gum. Is that a local thing? I'm the one that was the pencil.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Do you remember the pencil one? Had a chocolate chip. I remember the pencil one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is bubble-o-bill a local thing? Yes. Must be, right? It definitely is.
Starting point is 01:28:40 It's a dude. It's a cowboy ice cream. Cowboy ice cream. And his nose is a... There would be cowboy ice creams all across the world, I would imagine. There would be. But only Australia has the Bubbler Bill. Yeah, a not very good ice cream that doesn't look like a cowboy.
Starting point is 01:28:52 And... Is the back chocolate? Yeah. And also, you've got to take the nose off. You're just carrying around a bubble... You're carrying around a nose. Carrying around a bubblegum nose while you're eating ice cream. You know what I'd do?
Starting point is 01:29:03 What's that? And I don't think a child has the skill for this. Yes. You tuck it into the corner of your cheek. While you're eating the ice cream. Yeah, no. Carrying out a bubblegum nose while you're eating ice cream? You know what I'd do? What's that? And I don't think a child has the skill for this. Yes. You tuck it into the corner of your cheek. While you're eating the ice cream? Yeah, man. Insane. No.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Good. Okay, it was also good. You're right. Anyway, Mr. Melt says, help, I'm a bubble-o-bill. Hey, guys, what are some movies or moments where the supporting actor outshines the main actor? Example, Sly Stallone's role in Creed or J.K. Simmons in The Drum Teacher or Spider-Man, you could say. Sly Stallone outperform.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Out Creed Creed? Out Creed Creed. He does that speech where he's like, don't even worry about it. I'm getting cancer. You better get out of here. Nobody loves anybody in the world. I'm a wife. She's dead and you're dead to me as well.
Starting point is 01:29:43 I got cancer. I'm not even going to live for it even for a moment. Don't even think about it. I'm melting up turning on ice cream. I'm Bob LaBille. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. I was quite rude in hindsight. He looked up to me and I think I let him down actually.
Starting point is 01:29:58 He's right. Anyway, yeah, that's a good one. My back's made out of chocolate. I've written a few here. I think often villains overshadow. Yeah, because it's more fun to be a villain. Totally. You could look at like Darth Vader or even the Emperor.
Starting point is 01:30:14 The funnest characters there are. It's not about being fun, Mason. No, but I mean it's not about being fun, but that being said, the Emperor in The Rise of Skywalker is having a lot of fun. Ian McDiarmid? Yes. He's having so much fun. The best time of his life.
Starting point is 01:30:25 He's like, I've got a million spaceships and all this lightning. Woo! How many spaceships do you think I've got? It's a million! I've got a million! I've got a million! And you're a force dyad. And I'm going to put my soul in your body.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Woo! I can imagine stuff. He's like, how many spaceships do you think I've got? And they're like, it's a million. A million. You can't even wait. Anyway, like Joker, you could go Heath Ledger's Joker or Jackie. I don't even see Cesar Romero, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:30:57 People having fun on the Nolan. Is it about fun, though? No, yeah, no. It's about standing out. Outstanding. Yeah, okay, right, right, right. Okay. Hannibal Lecter, I guess.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Oh, yeah. I mean, Jodie Foster's very good in that and the other murder is good in it. Yeah, yeah. What about Jason Statham in the movie Spy? Oh, yeah, definitely. Yes. What about Alec Baldwin in You Better Get Those Leads or whatever? Who do you even tell you about?
Starting point is 01:31:21 I'm a salesman and I've come in to give you a speech about coffee. Oh, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, okay yeah i haven't seen it but that one gary glenn ross yes yeah okay sure what about that one okay sure yeah can you think of any other examples no you've taken all the examples you've taken the five or six examples that exist in the world yeah and you've done them and i don't have anywhere to go robert forster i think yes showing up in things like for example for example, El Camino. Yeah, okay. Cool scene.
Starting point is 01:31:46 That's true, yeah. That's fun. What's a movie where someone turns up for one scene? What about McConaughey in Wolf of Wall Street? Oh, sure. Okay, yeah. All right. And he does the thing.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Whatever. Ah, what about bloody. I just want to point out you haven't thought of a single one. I can't think of anything. I've done all of them and some of them are off the top of my head. Some of them are written down obviously. Like when somebody says name a song, you're like, I can't think of any songs.
Starting point is 01:32:10 You can think of one song. Yeah, Radiohead songs. Which one? All of them. Think of any Radiohead song. Okay, that's interesting. So you can't think of one because otherwise we're just going to have to move it along to the end of the show.
Starting point is 01:32:21 No, I'm going to think of one. Can you think iconic villains? Can you think of comedic performances? No, I can't think of. Who's your favorite character in The Hangover? Is it Mike Tyson? There's another one for you. No, it's not Mike Tyson.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Why would it be Mike Tyson? It's bloody, what's his face? Doctor. Yeah. Doctor. The guy was a doctor. He was a real life doctor. Doctor.
Starting point is 01:32:37 And he jumps out of the boot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he just beats people up and he runs away. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good one. That's it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:44 That's it. I mean, I named the movie. Yeah. Butips away. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good one. That's it? Yeah. I mean, I named the movie. Yeah. But all right. Yeah. Here we go. It's the end of the show. Scene stealing, guys.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Or girls. But I named Glenn Gary Glenn Ross. Yeah, but I named the same. Hmm. Hmm. How about I Google scene stealing? Yes. And then read some out and I'll agree or disagree.
Starting point is 01:33:07 All right. I'll add color commentary. I'd love that actually. That'd be really cool. Oh, the Joker's up there. They're saying Michael B. Jordan in Black Panther. Yeah. I would say Klor in Black Panther though. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:33:20 And that's it. It's just pictures of him again and again. That's great. Christian Bale in Terminator Salvation. Nope. What would you say? No, I wouldn't say that. No one would say that's it. It's just pictures of him again and again. That's great. Christian Bale in Terminator Salvation. Nope. What did you say? No, I wouldn't say that. No one would say that.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Yeah. No one would say that. That'll do it though. I think that'll do it for the week, Mason. Folks, thank you so much for listening. I hope everybody's doing all right out there. I hope they're having a ball. Fred Willard in something.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Yes, in any Christopher Guest movie. Yeah, there we go. Another one that I got. Continue. That's because you're looking at all the famous people. I know you have an Excel spreadsheet that has pictures of every famous person. That's true. So that's cheating in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 01:33:53 I think it's not, but go on. Steve Carell in Evan Almighty. No. Yeah, he does that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah thing. Isn't he Evan in Evan Almighty? Bruce Almighty. Oh, okay. He's in Bruce Almighty.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Well, now I've named the movie, so I guess we're even. I guess we are, but you know in your heart that's not true. What's next, Mason? Folks, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends. Thank you for lying to your friends to get them to listen. Thank you for meeting people at New York Comic Con.
Starting point is 01:34:19 You know who you are. Yes, indeed. Thank you for leaving a five-star review or whatever app that you happen to have. It really helps. Got one right here, Mason. Thank you for leaving a five-star review on whatever app that you happen to have. It really helps. Got one right here, mate. It's got a couple of writers from Danny Cranks who says, great commentary, poor pasta. A great podcast for comic and gem enthusiasts, but the pasta leaves
Starting point is 01:34:33 a lot to be desired. Well, Mr. Monday and Wes Bentley give great commentary about movies, comics, and TV shows. I'm still reeling from the absence of video game news and lack of cheese from Danny Cranks. And this one's from Dave. Did we talk about pasta a lot in a previous episode? It was in a Sopranos when I'm working in Sopranos.
Starting point is 01:34:50 The pasta, they're always like, I'm loving this pasta. And I'm like, that looks like shit. What you should do is you should take, when you're cooking the pasta, you take a little bit of the pasta water out, you put it aside, and then you take the pasta out, you drain the pasta, you put it back in. How much pasta are you putting back? How much pasta water are you putting back in? Okay, like a quarter of a cup maybe. Put that in and put the sauce in and then you take the pasta out, you drain the pasta, you put it back in. How much pasta are you putting back? How much pasta water are you putting back in? Like a quarter of a cup maybe.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Put that in and put the sauce in and then you sort of. It gives it a bit of like a. Then they probably wouldn't stick as much, would it? That's exactly right. It's dry to pasta. Then you give it a swish. Give it a swish. Give it a swish.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Give one of your famous swish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Through a basketball. That's through a basketball hoop, yeah. Yeah, that's right. From Day 15 he says, has yet to form a fully fledged opinion about Radiohead. Seriously, no thoughts on OK Computer
Starting point is 01:35:32 and James calls himself a man in his late 30s. Sure, I never. It's true, I haven't. And I still continue to not know anything about Radiohead. James, it's OK. To what? We make light of it, James. But it's true, though.
Starting point is 01:35:46 We give you a little bit of ribbing about it. We say you're a fool, James. We're just kidding. Yeah, but, like, it's also true. Like, I don't know very much about Radiohead, you know? That's, I guess, where the comedy lies. That's very true. In truth.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Yes. Anyway, sorry, please continue while I check if there's any hot news. See if there's any Radiohead news also. Oh, I really hope that the trailer for Jared Leto's Michael Morbius has dropped. I like the director of that. Who was it again? A guy. Nice.
Starting point is 01:36:17 I've forgotten. Terrific. Would you like it less if it was a girl, James? Oh, yeah. Great stuff, folks. If you want to get in contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at Gmail, at Facebook, at Twitter, at Bandcamp. You can go to the weekly, wait, you can go to the
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Starting point is 01:37:00 I mean, currently, if he's listening to this, he's probably at a computer editing the audio. At his house. At his house. Do you reckon he ever goes down to the local library? Yeah, maybe. It makes benefit of the free Wi-Fi. It makes benefit of that.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Not the books. Just the free Wi-Fi. Just the free Wi-Fi. Even though he probably has Wi-Fi in his house. We don't know. Free Wi-Fi. Oh, very nice. You save it up.
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Starting point is 01:38:36 Yeah. You could also do that with a regular shirt, I guess. I mean, it's possible. Just get a nice shirt. Have you ever gone up to somebody and say, nice shirt? No. Just like randomly. Like maybe you're next to them in a whatever, you'd maybe make a comment and say, nice shirt? No. Just like randomly. Like maybe you're next to them in a whatever,
Starting point is 01:38:47 you'd maybe make a comment or a party. But like would you just cross the room to be like, hey, nice shirt, see you later. Ooh. It'd have to be a pretty good shirt. It'd have to be a good shirt, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they'd have to be approachable and you'd have to be in a good mood. Have any of these things happened to you?
Starting point is 01:39:02 Simultaneously, no, not at all. Sometimes not even individually. Good mood, me in a good mood. You had of these things happened to you? Simultaneously? No, not at all. Sometimes not even individually. Good mood? Me in a good mood? You had to have a full eight hours of sleep. Yeah, exactly. No, absolutely not. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Yeah, but that's the whole show. Next week, Chong Chi and The Eternals. We're talking about both of them. You're seeing both tomorrow, aren't you? You are back to back in these MFs. Yes, I'm going to have two buckets of popcorn. I'm going to have a regular bucket of popcorn at my local cinema. It's going to be hot and buttery and delightful.
Starting point is 01:39:30 And then we're going to go to the media screening of The Eternals. Yep. And we're going to get a cold popcorn. Yep. That's going to be sitting on a seat when we get there, maybe. It's going to be great. Yep. And that's the show.
Starting point is 01:39:40 And to be clear, in exchange for that cold popcorn, we give it a glowing review. Yeah, we do. That's how it works. Yeah, of course. Yeah cold popcorn, we give it a glowing review. Yeah, we do. That's how it works. Yeah, of course. And a warm Coke probably. Often I don't even eat the popcorn, but I still give it a glowing review because it's just polite.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Yeah, that's true. Who says Marvel doesn't pay their critics? They do. Everyone says Marvel pays their critics. Oh, yeah. Well, it's true. It is true, yeah. All right, thanks, everybody.
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