The Weekly Planet - 411 Disney Plus Day & No Time To Die

Episode Date: November 15, 2021

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.This week we get stuck into all the big reveals from Disney Plus Day ...including Obi Wan Kenobi, She/Hulk and more. Plus we finally all take the time to die with our No Time To Die review. All time codes in the description.Tonts Podcast with James play.acast.com/s/tontsTwo in the Think Tank Live Stream youtu.be/_zja_l053WwVote for Suggestible in The Listener's Choice Award australianpodcastawards.com/vote00:00 The Start06:23 Delays But Don’t Dismays08:47 MGM Bidding War11:52 Vin Diesel’s Letter to The Rock16:08 Squid Game Season Two19:15 Spider-Man: No Way Home21:36 Dr Strange Sequel Reshoots23:24 Disney Plus Day Breakdown24:31 Prey, Predator Prequel25:28 Ghostbusters 201627:30 Spider-Man: Freshman Year28:20 Kenobi Series Teaser29:59 X-Men Animated Returns32:58 Echo, Ironheart, Agatha: House of Harkness33:22 Marvel Zombies, What If Season 2, I Am Groot34:46 Secret Invasion First Look33:57 Ms Marvel Delayed34:06 Moon Knight Teaser34:45 She Hulk Teaser35:32 Ice Age 636:02 Cars on the Road38:33 No Time To Die Review (spoilers 01:00:37 to 01:14:48)01:14:48 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:19:55 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, but with me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. Hello. Wow. Big week this week, Nick Mason. You know that, don't you? Better than anyone.
Starting point is 00:01:26 There's huge Disney plus news. I know it's a big week because you're using my full name and you're going to continue to do it. That's right. I can't stop. I won't stop. You cannot stop me. Just try and stop me. I think you'll lose interest very quickly. I agree. But this week, if you do want to jump around because
Starting point is 00:01:41 of time codes, of course. That is your right and your obligation. Agreed. It's your right and responsibility. Colin Sue edits this. He puts them below for everyone's convenience. So say if you wanted to jump ahead. Except his own.
Starting point is 00:01:54 That's the true hero. You're absolutely right. There's some big movie delays. Because he doesn't need them because it's all in his head. It's all in his brain. He knows exactly where everything is. It's all in his brain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:03 There's a big bidding war for a Lethal Weapon-style buddy cop comedy movie you might have seen. I haven't. Vin Diesel reaches out to his brother, The Rock. Little bro, he calls him, right? Little bro, yeah. Squid Game Season 2. A bunch of news for Spider-Man No Way Home.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Doctor Strange 2 gets some reshoots in trouble, question mark. Then, of course, we're doing Disney Plus Day where there's just a bunch of news including New X-Men and Obi-Wan and Secret Invasion. Just little snippets of things. Ms. Marvel, that's right. But look. We were like, can we do a whole episode on this?
Starting point is 00:02:34 No. Maybe there'll be a big She-Hulk trailer. There wasn't. There was two seconds. Maybe there'll be a big Moon Knight trailer. There wasn't. There was just Oscar Isaac doing a little voice. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:43 So at special request this is for Broden Kelly of Aunty Donna fame he wanted us to talk about No Time to Die because he's the only person in Australia other than us
Starting point is 00:02:52 who have seen it apparently so so we are going to do finally No Time to Die how long has it been out everywhere else I think it came out a million years ago
Starting point is 00:02:59 it was the first movie ever made wow they used charcoal and they drew it on the side of a dinosaur mate that's not a movie
Starting point is 00:03:04 what that was moving because the dinosaur oh because the dinosaur is moving okay sure sure sure yeah ever made. Wow. They used charcoal and they drew it on the side of a dinosaur, mate. That's not a movie. What? That was moving because the dinosaur. Oh, because the dinosaur is moving. Okay, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. But I've got a lot to say. It's a sophisticated prehistoric animation system. Sure, let's say that.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Wow. Let's say that I did think it through and that's what I meant. And they were, but it was about a present day like espionage situation. Yeah. In prehistoric times. They didn't predict things. It kind of just sets some trends that people like society had to catch up to. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Okay. You get it, right? Yeah. I think I do. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. I'm not going to say I don't get it because then I look stupid.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah, you don't want that. I do get it and I think you're right. Thank you. I appreciate that. Speaking of me being right or at the very least just running my mouth, my wife has a podcast. Well, we do one together called Suggestible, separate to this. And we do one together called The Weekly Planet.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Correct. But she does one called Tons where she talks just about a bunch of stuff, a bunch of crap, quite frankly. Wow. No, it's a great show. She did the last one for the season where we talk about basically the idea is the guest comes in with like a formative piece of like pop culture that they saw as a kid.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And they were murdered then because of the big season finale and who'd done it? Was it you or Claire? You have to listen to find out. But so she interviews me and we talk about, I talk about the movie Office Space. How'd you get that? How'd you get an interview with James Clemens?
Starting point is 00:04:21 As we mentioned in the show, I was my break glass in case of emergency guest. I understand. And we talk about like how leaving my regular job for this and kids and balance and all these with like stuff and, you know, things like that. So people are interested. I mean, I always like talking to my wife,
Starting point is 00:04:36 which I think is important. Get a load of this guy. Loves talking to his wife. I'm sorry, you said like talking to my wife. That's a fairly important distinction, but that's linked below. Also vote for suggestible. Get a load of this guy. He likes talking to his wife.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Also, we're trying to reel the podcast awards again, the Australian podcast awards. Of course, yes, that's right. For people who have forgotten or don't know or didn't listen to the last episode, we were both on our pals Andy and Al's podcast to win the think tank. I made it. I wasn't going to make it.
Starting point is 00:05:05 You made it in time, that's true. What are we, like, seven hour mark, eight hour mark? Yeah, and we thought it was going to be up in the little podcast room in stupid old studios, but it was in the big downstairs room with the big screens. I was not ready for that. And the high-definition cameras. I have terrible hair at the moment.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I was not ready for that. But for people who don't know, they're podcasting with the Think Tank. They come up with five sketch ideas every week. But for the 300th episode, they were going to do 300 sketch ideas. They'd done this in the past. It had taken hours and hours. All the video is all up on this stupid old channel on YouTube. It's 18 hours.
Starting point is 00:05:39 You could just go to YouTube and just browse videos of a certain length, starting longest to shortest, and it'd be towards the top. So it's like 18 and a half hours long or browse like audio. You can just browse videos of a certain length starting longest to shortest and then be towards the top. So it's like 18 and a half hours long or something like that. Eight hour mark. We're at the eight hour mark. I sketch 153, I want to say. Something like that. But there's some great guests.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Absolutely. Terrific. Our pals over at DoGoOn and a bunch of local guys that I think are very funny. So check it out. Here's something that I don't think is very funny. I think we did all right also. We did all right.
Starting point is 00:06:04 We got like 12. Well, we didn't get 12. We were we did all right also. We did all right. We got like 12. Well, we didn't get 12. We were there for 12 or something, 10 to 12. You're not going to be happy about this, Mason. Delays. Always wrong. Yeah, wrong theme tune. But not Dismays.
Starting point is 00:06:14 This is when things are delayed, but we go, don't even worry about it because there's always movies. I think maybe if this were a video format, it would be a calendar of all the pages would be flipping away. Yeah, like our No Time to Die calendar. Yes, and then it's obsolete now. It's a collector's item. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:06:30 What do you reckon we could get for it? 50 cents. Wow, that's way less than what you paid for it, I assume. I paid 45 cents for it. Really? Yeah, it's appreciated in value. So, I mean, we hold onto it long enough. Every remaining copy will be destroyed except for that one.
Starting point is 00:06:46 We'd have to put it in like some sort of vacuum sealed chamber so the paper doesn't degrade. But I reckon by 2050 we could probably get a dollar. Wow. Yeah. Which I guess with inflation is less than what it was originally worth. Way less. Yeah, way less.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Anyways, Transformers. Also, you know, probably be water wars and stuff. Yeah, that probably might be. And I'll step on it. Yeah. Anyways, Transformers. Also, you know, probably be water wars and stuff. Yeah, that probably might be. And I'll step on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Just on purpose. Running from giant human-sized cockroaches. All those AI robots. Yeah, the AI robots. The Boston Dynamics robots. Exactly. They have shotguns on them now. Transformers.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah, Transformers. Speaking of, Transformers Rise of the Beasts has been pushed one full year to June of 2023. I actually just watched Bumblebee with my son this week. It's fun, man. It's a good movie. Yeah, fun. Again, I got mad at the start when they're on Cybertron and you can see who everybody is and all the designs are like from the 80s or whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And they're all, you know, you know who's who and you can see the action clearly. And I'm like, God damn it. I watched so many Michael Bay Transformers movies to get to this. Speaking of delays, Rogue Squadron has been delayed from 2023. Now it's said that Patty Jenkins has had a scheduling conflict because she's working on Wonder Woman 3, she's working on a Cleopatra movie you might be familiar with, also with Gal Gadot.
Starting point is 00:08:02 But I do wonder whether this is a you've been fired from Star Wars situation. Oh, you think so? You think that'll come out later? I don't know. But, like, it seems like they do this a lot and I'm not sure. What do you think? Yeah, it might come out.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I mean, you know, Star Wars seems to have this. This stink about it. Well, the system seems to be if you, they pick you, they tap you for a project, and if anything untoward happens from between then and when your movie is supposed to be start off, they'll dump you.
Starting point is 00:08:34 They did that with Trevorrow, because he made that weird kid murderer movie. Yeah, they did it with the GOT boys, GOT bros. There's supposed to be a Rian Johnson trilogy happening. Yes. There's rumours that Chloe Zhao might be doing the Kevin Feige produced one,
Starting point is 00:08:53 but also maybe that was debunked this week as well. But also, you know. Back of Eternals, maybe that won't let her. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, exactly. I just don't know. Maybe a movie that rates 48% on Rotten Tomatoes or whatever
Starting point is 00:09:06 will knock you out of the running for Star Wars. I don't know. Don't know. Speaking of Star and Wars. I was going to say also in Rise of the Beast, Wheeljack is a VW bus. Oh, do you like that, do you? I do.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I think it's cool. Yeah, that is cool. So that one is a sequel to Bumblebee. Yes. And Bumblebee is not in the regular Transformers continuity, apparently. Okay. Which is good.
Starting point is 00:09:28 It is good. Because then you've got to work out how Unicron's in the planet again or something. It's true. You've got to build back to that. Yeah. Also, Star Trek 4, whatever that ends up looking like, has actually moved six months from June to December of 2023.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I see. There we go. Did you know there was an MGM bidding war this week, Mason? I thought somebody already owned it. Didn't somebody already? No, sorry. Within MGM. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And other major motion picture companies. Oh. And their logos. Oh, you're saying so somebody wants to purchase a famous property and MGM wants it? Well, they already have it. So Dave Bautista made a post a while back who was like, I want to do a buddy cop style lethal weapon movie with Jason Momoa.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Okay. And then there was this furious bidding war and MGM won. So I look forward to just that being a version of Red Notice or whatever. Sure. I was going to mention, I was going to save this to what we read and what we're going to read. Our famous, most famous segment. I watched Red Notice this week.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And? It's fine. It's pretty good. Okay, cool. Because I haven't heard like massively glowing things, but I did see in the great mates group worked on it oh there you go and that's awesome well i think it's i went into it a doing other things so it's just on in my in my house but also i went in with the with the idea of like okay it's just two guys who i like primarily both selling different types of alcohol throughout the movie yeah yeah so yeah there is
Starting point is 00:10:44 there is definitely what i think is some aviation gin in it, but you don't see the label, I don't think. But, I mean, probably aficionados would recognise the bottle. Yeah, that's me. But it's sort of like, okay, these guys are sort of too, they're charismatic and you like them together and they're doing a thing together. And I think the plot and et cetera is pretty rote,
Starting point is 00:11:02 but I think, and the action is also fine, but I think as far as you, you know, it's like an Abbott and Costello or what have you. Yes, yes. I wouldn't be surprised if they either do a sequel to this or they just keep showing up in different movies together. Have we ever talked about Spencer and Hill? Which one's that?
Starting point is 00:11:19 It's Jake Gerard Dinn who worked on this as well. He was an art department assistant. How cool is that? Spencer and Hill, Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill, not their real names, were two Italian actors. Mamma mia. Precisely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Except they met, I think, doing spaghetti westerns. And then from like the 70s through the 80s, and I think a little bit of the 90s, they did like action adventure comedy buddy movies together in english in english-speaking countries with primarily english-speaking supporting cast that were only ever um shown in italy what are we talking about here these two guys yeah i mean like what movies would i have known and you won't you won't know any of them but they're all on amazon prime i've watched a few they're actually pretty good look up ter. Look up Spencer and Hill, I guess, if you look them up.
Starting point is 00:12:09 One looks like a young Rob Lowe and one looks like. There's a music group called Terrence Hill and Bud Spencer. And one looks like Jonathan Rhys-Davies. Oh, yeah, I can see that. And they just did these series of movies where they're two main characters and they never really do. They're always just new characters just on new adventures. So it's like kind of like Butch Cassidy and The Sting. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Like Redford and Paul Newman. Yeah, yeah, just over and over again. That's interesting. It wouldn't surprise me if. They did a version of that? Yeah, they did a version of that. Maybe with Gal Gadot again as the third. As the third.
Starting point is 00:12:36 But I reckon they probably just do. I've never heard of this. That's interesting. They're like phenomenons in Italy. Yeah, I'm a big fan. The homeland of Italy. I'm a huge fan. Speaking of phenomenons in Italy. Yeah, I'm a big fan. The homeland of Italy. I'm a huge fan. Speaking of phenomenons, speaking of two buddies,
Starting point is 00:12:51 you might have seen this. I know you have this post from Vin Diesel, which I'm going to read here verbatim, which is a call out to, well, I'll just read it. You're going to do some crunches. No, do some, he would do push-ups first. He would do diamond push-ups, where you put your hands together like this. It would do diamond push-ups. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:05 You know where you put your hands together like this? Okay. It works on the inner chest and triceps. Okay. Can you only use these? No, no. You go flat hand because you've got your hands together. You don't get the full range of motions of your entire arm.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Oh, I see. Limits of motion. Okay. You're targeting specific muscle groups. How many of those would you do before we release this? How many can I do? Oh, mate, how many you got? How many do you want me to do? 1,000. That's too many. I can I do? Well, mate, how many you got? How many do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:13:25 1,000. That's too many. I can't do that many, mate. 500? That's also too many. 250. I'll do five. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That's good. Here we go. My little brother, Dwayne. Yuck. Bad start. I know, right? Power move. I wouldn't even say that to my actual brother.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Right? Because it comes to a point where you're just both grown people. Yeah. If you were like, hey, little brother, he'd be like, I think he'd just look around and be like, what is this? And then he'd bolt me on the top of the head. Because he's bigger than you. The time has come. The world awaits the finale of Fast 10.
Starting point is 00:14:00 As you know, my children refer to you as Uncle Dwayne in my house. What? There is not a holiday. Uncle Dwayne in my house. What? There is not a holiday. Uncle Dwayne, that guy I hate. There is not a holiday that goes by that they and you don't send well wishes. But the time has come. Legacy awaits. I told you years ago that I was going to fulfill my promise to Pablo.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Paul Walker? Paul Walker, I believe. I swore that we would reach and manifest the best fast in the Furious finale. That is 10. I say this out of love, but you must show up. Do not leave the franchise idle. You have a very important role
Starting point is 00:14:35 to play. Hobbs can't be played by no other. I hope that you rise to the occasion and fulfill your destiny. And then there's a photo of them together, except he's clearly photoshopped himself quite poorly as bigger and whiter than The Rock. Oh, no. Now, to refresh my memory and other people's memories,
Starting point is 00:14:55 famously they didn't get along during the filming of the Fast and Furious movies they were in. And Vin Diesel was like, The Rock is very unprofessional. Is that right? Yeah, or something like that. And Vin Diesel was saying, like is very unprofessional. Is that right? Yeah, or something like that. And Vin Diesel was saying like the way that he approached it, like he's talked about this how like he used a lot. It's like a Fellini film.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah, like he was using a lot of anger and trying to like ride him up and he's like it's acting. Can we not? Because they were supposed to be enemies and whatever and they become brothers and et cetera. And recently he said, like Vin Diesel talked about that and how he was trying to get the best performance out of The Rock and whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:27 which is ridiculous because, I mean, The Rock, he's not a terrible actor, is he? Like he knows what he's doing. He's very charming and he can jump and stuff and punch. That's all you need. Good actor, jump and punch. If I was The Rock. Maybe they should have cast him as Mario.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Maybe they should have. Jump and punch, you know, Yoshi in the back of the head. Yeah. If I was The Rock, I... Maybe they should have cast him as Mario. Maybe they should have. Jump and punch, you know, Yoshi in the back of the head. Yeah. If I was The Rock, though, and this was me, I just wouldn't do this out of absolute spite. I'd be like, I'm going to do Red Notice 2 to 4 in a day. I'm just going to film all my scenes in a day. I can't be there.
Starting point is 00:15:58 That's right. Little brother. Crazy. Yeah. Anyway, he hasn't responded. He doesn't want to be full, like like fall on my sword kind of thing. So he wants to have a little bit of condescension in there, I think. I think if he honestly came to him and said, listen,
Starting point is 00:16:09 I've clearly overstepped. There's been a miscommunication. I'd love you to be part of this. That's how you approach somebody. I promise I won't, you know, pretend to be mad at you or whatever or push you around. You can hit me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You can hit me. You can hit me one more time than I hit you. You can hit my kids. They call you Uncle Punchy. Yeah. You can hit me. You can hit me one more time than I hit you. You can hit my kids. No. They call you Uncle Punchy. No. They call you. Anyway, we'll see how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Squid Game Season 2. He's got enough money, Vin. He doesn't need any more money from him. No, but he also knows that he needs him, really. Doesn't he? Don't you think? To make it the biggest version of this movie. Yeah, you need everybody back.
Starting point is 00:16:43 He fucking- Except anybody who's been cancelled. Yeah. Or killed. But even then, bring him back. In fact, that guy. Yeah, you need everybody back. Except anybody who's been cancelled or killed, but even then, bring him back. That guy, that guy from the first one. Oh, the guy, the little rat man. He's a little been shot. Bionic organs, give him bionic organs.
Starting point is 00:16:56 That's right. He's a car now. He's a car now. He's Turbo Teen now. Bring him back as Turbo Teen. 40 or whatever, probably. Squid Game season two. Creative and director Hwang Dong-hyuk says,
Starting point is 00:17:12 so there's been so much pressure, so much demand. By the way, Squid Game, biggest Netflix show of all time. So this is bound to happen. And so much demand and so much love for a second season. So I almost felt like you leave us no choice. But I will say there will be indeed a second season. It's in my head right now. I'm in the planning process currently. Inevitable.
Starting point is 00:17:27 It was going to happen. Yes. I'm skeptical. Of what part? Squid Game season two. In what sense? What do you mean? That it will be good.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Oh. I just think like. Okay, there might be some spoilers for Squid Game here as we talk about Squid Game. Yeah, everyone's seen it though. Yeah, that's true. Why are you skeptical? In the sense of like in a narrative sense?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Do you think it might not be satisfying in some way? You've got to bring back the Squid Game. It's like with Hunger Games, right? You've got to get back into the Hunger Games. When you go out of the Hunger Games, it's not that long. Interesting. It's not the Hunger Games. Oh, you're saying this might take place mostly outside of Squid Game.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Or you have to work in a narrative where you've now got a protagonist who's well aware of Squid Game. So does that mean you in a narrative where you've now got a protagonist who's well aware of Squid Game. So does that mean you start up a Squid Game and also while the protagonist is doing things outside of Squid Game, you've got people within the Squid Game doing the Squid Game, I guess? Yeah. I don't know. I just don't think, I think people are going to be disappointed by this.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah, right. That's what I think. Because it was not really supposed to be this phenomenon. And I think now there's also so much pressure on it and so much fan art and ideas and it might just fall under the weight of itself at this point because it's the biggest show in the world I would love that to not be the case because it's it's a fun show yeah and it's about squids yes you got it a lot of people don't get it that's why I like you yeah that's right uh did you see there was a poster this week a bit of spider-man no way home news yes unless you got
Starting point is 00:18:44 some what are your thoughts on Squid Game, I guess? I'm jumping ahead. Great question. I didn't, I'd stop to let my little brother. Oh, no. No, no, no, no. I don't know. Also, what's interesting is that, I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:00 I think they'll probably have to go bigger only in the sense that because now. More squids. Or more squids or more squids, bigger squids, deeper squids, um, one, because it's,
Starting point is 00:19:09 it's going to have to be a bigger production because people are expecting more, but also because the character who won squid game is incredibly rich now. So he could just hire some people to check out all sorts of weird islands and immediately find out where the next squid game is happening. So where do you think it is? Probably Thailand. Probably the same spot, I reckon.
Starting point is 00:19:26 You reckon the exact same spot? It's just that same island. It's probably where they do the Squid Game, I reckon. Just back in there? Yeah. Huh. They changed the rooms. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Okay, sure. You saw Squid Game, right? I saw Squid Game, yes. Very good. Who do you think they're going to bring back? Did we have this conversation? We already talked about it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:41 But the one who, because we're in spoilers, the third person to die, the main guy obviously, the cop, the dude who was running the squid game. Not the main guy but like the tournament dude. Tournament guy, yeah. Whatever. Some of the people in animal masks, diamond animal masks and stuff. He'll probably be back, yeah. Anyways. Or main guy gets shot in the head immediately at the start of the second season
Starting point is 00:20:02 because they knew where he was. That's true. So probably. He was getting on that plane, wasn't he? Yeah, yeah. Maybe they do it at the train station doing the game of the second season because they knew where he was. That's true. So probably. He was getting on that plane, wasn't he? Yeah, yeah. Maybe they do it at the train station doing the game. He'll be back, yeah, sure. Spider-Man No Way Home got a poster.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Did you see it? Yes. What did you see in the background? Everyone. The greenest of goblins? Yes. They were coming and going. You see the big leaks as well.
Starting point is 00:20:20 John Campion posted some photos of all like, he's like, there's a fake, but like then Sony took them down. Oh, I didn't see that. For those people who, I guess slight spoilers, if you haven't been following all the lies on the internet about who's in this movie, but it's a photo of Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire and Tom Holland together. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:20:38 In the Spider-Man costumes. And even if it's fake, which it could be, it's 100% happening. And speaking of, this Tuesday. Again, we've said this before, but imagine if it wasn't. I would love it. There's part of me that would just love that so much. Just the heartbreak.
Starting point is 00:20:52 The utter heartbreak. Just maybe just, you know, the whole multiverse collapses in the first, you know, it all comes spiraling out of control in the first 10, 15 minutes. Then it immediately gets resolved and it's just a regular Spider-Man movie. And he's back in Europe. Yeah. And anyway, so there's going to be a LA special event this week where it looks like there's going to be some big announcement. There's going to be the trailer.
Starting point is 00:21:16 There's talk that we don't know at this point as a recording whether they're going to release the trailer online. I think they probably will because it will leak regardless, maybe even before the event. Sure. And I think they're going to bring out the cast. I think they probably will because it will leak regardless. Maybe even before the event. And I think they're going to bring out the cast. I think. I don't know. And they're going to bring out a cake. Do you think they will? Who's in the cake? It's a regular cake.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Steven Seagal's in there, Mason. What? It's a reverse Under Siege. That's amazing. Someone else was in the cake. Do you remember that movie? Yes. Tommy Lee Jones is in it. They do a knife fight at the end. That's a good movie. No. I agree.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Wow. I don't even know if I've seen it. I think I've seen the one on the trade, which is the second. Under Siege 2, yeah. Yeah. Still Sieging. Still Sieging. Anyway, we'll see you this week.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I'll do a trailer, something, something, and whatever. Do you think they should do another Under Siege movie? No. Just Steven Seagal, just real slow, just. Oh, God, he's struggling. He's something else up, like, isn't he? He really is, yeah. Something bad.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Just distress. He's friends with Putin. Like, what the fuck is that? Very odd, right? What are you doing? I don't know. But, like, he's one of those guys where it's weird. He's like, no, he's nice.
Starting point is 00:22:20 He's nice to you. He's a war criminal. Because you're, yeah, yeah. What are you talking about? I mean, all world leaders are war criminals. What am I even talking about, Mason? I know, James. He's a particularly bad one.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Anyway, according to The Hollywood Reporter, Oh, yes. Doctor Strange 2 is doing some significant reshoots. Uh-oh. What does significant look like, you ask me? Yes. Yes. Well, that's six weeks of reshoots, six days a week.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Now, you might be like, isn't that the length of shooting a regular movie? Often that is the case. Sounds like some sort of 90% reshoot situation. Different people are saying different things, Mason, on this Sam Raimi Helmed project. Well, who's saying the worst thing, and let's take that verbatim. One person says, Insider says, we've had bigger reshoots on other MCU movies.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And this other person is saying, they're here until the end of the year. That's like a whole other movie. And some people are saying, ah, help. Help, we're trapped in this movie. They say that we're going to keep making it from scratch until we get it right. We don't want to do it, but they're making us do it.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Okay, that sounds bad. It's interesting because Sam Raimi's doing it. Yes. And Sam Raimi obviously had trouble last time he made a comic book movie, which was Spider-Man 3, because he didn't get the version that he wanted. Also, they removed Scott Derrickson from the – because Doctor Strange 2 was supposed to be like a horror movie, but now it's like a multiverse whatever whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah, yeah. Because they wanted to lean into that. So what does this mean? It could just be reshoots. It could just be adding more crazy dimensions, I guess. But I don't know what this is, to be honest. What we'll have to do is when they've finished filming it, we'll just check the film canisters they leave out.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And it might say, like, adding more crazy dimensions, more crazy dimension stuff. Or it might say whole new movie because the last one sucked and he's in a lot of trouble. We realised we had Benedict Cumberbatch's wig on backwards the whole time. That's right. We had to do the whole thing again. You can't even see his face.
Starting point is 00:24:14 We put the goatee between his eyes. Anyways, it was Disney Plus Day and thank God. Oh, my God. Waiting all year for whatever date that was. So I thought they were going to do like a 30-minute presentation, but it was spread out like over the day with some social media. I don't even know where it was because all I've seen is snippets on YouTube. Thumbs on Disney Plus as well.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Okay, yeah. Because I wasn't like my – Most of it happened when we were asleep as well. I should point out. Yeah, my first impression was like, oh, if I switch on Disney+, it'll be like on a banner and you click it and there's a presentation or something, but there wasn't. It's Jeff Goldblum being like, oh, what's this?
Starting point is 00:24:51 And then he just points to a screen in whatever place. You acted like he was brushing a spider off his shoulder. Maybe he was. We'll just touch on a bit of everything, and I'm definitely going to miss some stuff. But I'm glad they didn't kind of like do – they didn't desay it in terms of like a 40-hour presentation. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Like they broke it up into small social media posts. I don't think there was anything here like too earth shattering. But there's some decent stuff there. But I think there's a middle ground there because this was – from what I can tell, they really whipped through this. And of the stuff we were interested in, just the tiniest little snippets of things. Snippety-dippities. Here's one.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Snippety-dippity. Dan Trachtenberg released an image of his Predator prequel called Prey. Oh, yes. Which is an all-new entry in the at Predator franchise. I'm reading this off Twitter. Prey is set in the world of the Comanche Nation. Comanche Nation? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:44 300 years ago. So it's from the original film from director Dan Trachtenberg who did The Boys, 10 Cloverfield Lane. It's only on Hulu in 2022. Going to streaming, which is interesting, which I guess probably means star in Australia, I guess. Yeah, it could be star. I'm hoping it also goes to cinemas as well because good Predator movie
Starting point is 00:26:02 is good. There's two good Predator movies. There's Predator and then there's Predators. That's correct. And then there's The Predator, which is another movie that they made. There's Predator 2. Yeah, which is okay, I guess. It's kind of a bit of fun.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And then there's Alien vs. Predator. The head comes off. That's true. Alien vs. Predator. And then Alien vs. Predator Requiem. Of course, there's the video games, including an arcade. That's right. Speaking of which, we're doing a video game this week,
Starting point is 00:26:26 aren't we, for Caravan of Garbage? That's right. Thank God we're through Ghostbusters because I'm fucking sick of 40-year-old men screaming at me about Ghostbusters. Get over it! Well, what did you expect? I know, but you need to get past the 2016 version. Like, we all know it wasn't great and it's done.
Starting point is 00:26:42 They're not making it anymore. It's finished. It was five years ago and there are no sequels. Guys, if you're a 40-year-old man. It didn't do well. If you're a 40-year-old man and you didn't like it, crowdfund a remake. You know, get $200 billion for it like that Last Jedi remake. I'm not saying it's just 40-year-old men, but it's 40.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I mean, I am saying that, aren't I? Yeah, you are. I just didn't. I'm kind of, you know, it's good because we gave it a bit of space because it's been like literally half a decade since that movie came out. But God, what? It's just Ghostbusters. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Anyway, I guess it's my own fault in a way for talking about Ghostbusters. Did you see there was a poster? James, before you go. Yeah, yeah. I've just gone to remakethelastjedi.com. Oh, what are we up to? The total pledge is $418,970,000. How much did you pledge again?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Because you pledged, didn't you? Yeah, $1 million. All the money I had. All the money you have is $1 million. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty good. Yeah, not bad. Great stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I mean, they're also going to have to do a sequel, aren't they? Yes, I guess they'll need another $418 million. It's pretty good. Yeah, not bad. Great stuff. I mean, they're also going to have to do a sequel, aren't they? Yes, I guess they'll need another $418 million. There's some spam. There's some, like, pop-up ads. No, just total pledged. Great. Can you still pledge? Let's check.
Starting point is 00:27:57 No, but you can take our What Jedi Are You quiz. Oh, who are you? Let's find out. Probably Rey. But I don't think that she'd be in it. No. I think they wouldn't put her in. I'm not going to take this quiz. It's got nine questions. Nine questions? Yeah, yeah. Jesus. Did you just say what Jedi do you want
Starting point is 00:28:12 to be? Rey. It should say, obviously what you're going to do is you're going to keep taking the test and answering questions to get to the Jedi you want to be. So just say which Jedi you want to be. Alright? That's true. Did you see they announced Spider-Man Freshman Year,
Starting point is 00:28:28 which is an animated series, follows Peter Parker on his way to becoming Spider-Man in the MCU with a journey unlike we've ever seen and a style that celebrates a character's early comic book roots. Executive producer Jeff Trammell serves as head writer. So basically it's an MCU origin Tom Holland Spider-Man, but maybe Tom Holland's not in it, Spider-Man show. Okay. So we're doing this is going to be set prior to Captain America Civil War.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I assume. Presumably, but I don't know. And he's going to be in his weird sack suit. I mean it could be after. It could be between Civil War and Infinity War as well. Maybe a little bit of both. Yeah, but origin I presume it means early days and maybe we'll get some Uncle Ben action.
Starting point is 00:29:09 What does that mean? We see him shot. What? That action scene. Yeah. Pow, pow. Wow, bring it back. I love it.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Speaking of action, Obi-Wan Kenobi got a sizzle reel. Mm-hmm. Hello there. There he is. Okay. I just pointed and I waited and then he did it. I just did. For people who don't know, this got cat out of the air,
Starting point is 00:29:29 but I just did dozens of different catchphrases. You picked the one that was correct. You won't get away this time. You did that. You did all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did I do that? We saw a number of things confirmed.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Did I do that, Oduku? This was leaked as well, did you see? No. It was leaked. We saw some concept art, some Inquisitors, some Darth Vader fighting Obi-Wan Kenobi. That's the big news, I think. We get him going off world.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Cool. Really excited. Because otherwise he's going to do battle with Darth Vader on Tatooine and then Darth Vader's going to forget where he is. Exactly. So there you go. Again, and Vader's going to forget where he is. Exactly. So there you go. Again, I was going to do a trailer breakdown. It didn't end up happening because they didn't release a proper trailer.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I think what I recorded, the thing that I ended up releasing was this is just what I want to see from Star Wars at the moment. I don't care about anything else except for this. And then I'm going to retire from Star Wars. You're not going to retire from Star Wars. I'm retiring. No, you can't do it. I'm going. No one Star Wars. You're not going to retire from Star Wars. I'm retiring. No, you can't do it. I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:30:26 No one will let you. You might be right. Also, what if it's bad? Yeah, well, look, don't get me wrong. I don't think it will be. Maybe it will be. I don't know. But I think The Mandalorian is good.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I think it will be good too, James. Boba Fett's cool. Folks, I'm setting up his expectations that it's really good and then it'll be kind of less than perfect and he'll be sad about it. Rian Johnson trilogy, I want to see it. That Rogue Squadron movie. All of these things are good, but this is the only thing I've ever wanted to see. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Ever in my life. In your life, wow. I'm going to retire from life also. We also got, here we go, here we bloody go. Uh-oh. X-Men 1997. You know what this is about? X-Men?
Starting point is 00:31:01 Yep. In 97? It's a continuation. Yes. Of the X-Men animated Yep. In 97. It's a continuation of the X-Men animated series, which stopped in 1996. So they're getting a number of the original cast back, not all of them,
Starting point is 00:31:12 plus some new voices. It's coming in 2023. Alright then. That's pretty cool. Do you think kids love X-Men, or do you think... Go on. 40-year-old men love X-Men. Well, I think also there are also going to be live action X-Men in the works by then.
Starting point is 00:31:28 So it's going to all tie in. You're going to get old fans and new fans and there will be movies and whatever. So it's all going to kick off. Do you think, James, this animated series is going to be soundtracked by the hits of 1997 including Tub Thumping by Chumbawamba? Yes, Mason. What other hits have we got?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Peaches. Bob by Hanson. Peaches. I think that was 96. Okay. I'll Be Missing You by Diddyawamba. Yes, Mason. What other hits have we got? Peaches. Mbop by Hanson. Peaches. I think that was 96. Okay. I'll Be Missing You by Diddy. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Semi-Charmed Life. What else have we got? Hypnotize, Notorious B.I.G. Bittersweet Symphony. Oh, yeah. Which Smashing Pumpkins song was big that year? It was probably... Tonight Tonight? Tonight, yeah. It was thathing Pumpkins song was big that year? It was probably... Tonight Tonight?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Tonight, yeah. It was that album, Melancholy, something, something. And the Infinite Sadness. Yeah. I think that maybe that was like 95 or something. Okay. Anyway, I Want You, Savage Garden. A little bit of Savage Garden.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Put that in there. Okay. Savage Garden. Fun fact. The lead singer from Savage Garden, Darren Hayes, followed me on Twitter, and then he stopped following me on Twitter. Whoa. Don't harass him.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah. But he's a big Star Wars guy. That's right. That Savage Garden. That Melancholy something something was in 95. Okay. I'm an idiot. Did I not say 95?
Starting point is 00:32:31 I don't know what you said. You probably said 95. What else were you saying though? Do you know what I mean? Oasis. I know what you mean. Remember that album? I remember Oasis.
Starting point is 00:32:38 That album was huge. Hey, who am I? I've done this before but who am I? I fucking hate my brother. Either of the Gallagher brothers, yeah. I've done this before, but who am I? I fucking hate my brother. Either of the Gallagher brothers, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 That's my Oasis impression. Anything else? Any other songs in 1997? Yeah. Song two, Blur? Yeah. God, remember Britpop? You don't.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Of course I remember Britpop. What do you mean? How do you remember Britpop and not Radiohead? I know who they are. Yeah, right. Have Radiohead. I know who they are. Yeah, right. A Radiohead pop? Really, though? It was like a, yeah, it was like, you know, that sort of,
Starting point is 00:33:11 it was that era when that British rock was popular. Would you consider Green Day Britpop? No. I know they're not British, but he does that kind of. Oh, I see. The voice, the inflection is a bit kind of. No, no, no. There you go. Anyway, should we move on?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yes. Or should we keep doing this? I don't like doing this. I like looking at things. Stop living in the past, Mason. No, I'm just going to live in the past. Thank you. Tony Braxton.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Why are you doing that? We had some logos and reveals for the Echo TV series. Oh, return of the Mac. Sorry. Oh, man. People used to do that joke when I worked at McDonald's for like the Big Mac and whatever. That sounds like a good joke.
Starting point is 00:33:44 You put it places. Yeah, it was really funny. It was really funny the first time down to the last time that I did it because I did it every time I was there. You know? Yes, sure. Did you see there was a reveal of Echo, the CB series? No. So the Echo,
Starting point is 00:33:57 and I think it's going to be... The Daredevil supporting character. She's going to be in Hawkeye, right? Apparently it's also going to, well, the rumour is it's going to fold in a lot of Netflix stuff. Like you're going to see Daredevil and whatever, which would be rad. Ironheart logo. Agatha House of Harkness series.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Yes. So Jack Schafer is working on that who worked on WandaVision, which I think is great. Marvel Zombies is getting its own season animated. With that classic sort of Marvel Zombies kind of Adam's Family style logo. I wonder whether they're doing like it'll continue or it'll be a new dimension. I think it's going to be a new dimension.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah, because Marvel Zombies in the comics, it's like often they just do a new dimension of zombies. What If is getting a season two. I Am Groot animated. It's a little Groot show. We've also got an image of Secret Invasion. Did you see that? Yes, it's just Nick Fury's got a big beard.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah. Looking good because he's been out in space probably. Out in space. They don't have razors in space. They don't have razor spaces. Ms. Marvel. There's some footage for that. Okay, yeah, great.
Starting point is 00:34:56 It's coming up. I think they said last quarter next year, I believe. They got pushed. We got a small teaser for Moon Knight and Oscar Isaac. Boy, is he committing to a voice. I think it's because Moon Knight has multiple personalities and one of them is probably the cab driver. I think maybe that's the cab driver personality
Starting point is 00:35:16 who is also British in this somehow. Hello. I'm Jake Lottley. The problem with committing to a voice is, and we saw that with Wanda, you have to then justify. I'm the Fist of Khonshu. You have to justify. He's an Egyptian god.
Starting point is 00:35:29 You have to justify coming out. Or I had an hallucination from my near-death experience in Egypt. Yeah, it's probably both, yeah. I think he's an alien. You've got to commit to it, you know what I mean, for a while and then fade out of it. Now you mentioned this as well. We've got some very brief imagery of She-Hulk.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yes. And there's also one image in particular where we see Smart Hulk Now, you mentioned this as well. We got some very brief imagery of She-Hulk. And there's also one image in particular where we see Smart Hulk. And then there's another one where Bruce Banner and what's her name? Jennifer Walters. Jennifer Walters. Tatiana Maslany. Yes, but they're in like 70s outfits. Yeah, it's like the very small snippet we got made it look like it was LA law.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah. And even the logo looks like it. The logo is like She-Hulk looks like NCIS or whatever. Or like ER or something like that. I think that's the vibe. It's procedural, I guess. Yeah, it's procedural, yeah. What did you think of the She-Hulk? Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Design, yeah. I was a little taken aback, but then I'm like, well, the Hulk's entirely CG, isn't he? Yeah. So why am I surprised by this? Well, you're so wrapped up in this, Mason. I know. Let it go. I shan't. Okay. Do you like the movie Ice he? Yeah. So why am I surprised? Why are you so wrapped up in this, Mason? I know. Let it go.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I shan't. Okay. Do you like the movie Ice Age? No. Do you like any of the sequels? No. Are you looking forward to this next sequel? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Will they go back to the dinosaur land? Yes. I said yes. I'm a bit of a soft spot for Ice Age. You're an ice head? Yeah. I think they're pretty cool. Because they're kind of like.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That's what they say on the street. They go, there goes James. He's a real ice head. I don't want to say addict, but he's definitely something that he's committed to for far too long. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think they're fun and silly and they don't really mean anything and they're nice.
Starting point is 00:36:55 They're nice movies. They're stupid in a good way. Cars on the Road is a series. Where else would they be, James? Sometimes they go to a dinosaur kingdom probably. Oh, all right. I don't know. My question's been answered.
Starting point is 00:37:06 It's bringing back Owen Wilson and Larry the Cable Guy in their roles. Baymax, they're getting a spin-off into that big marshmallow guy from something, whatever. Big Hero 6. Yeah, not a bad movie either. And that's not everything, but that's most things, I guess. I think they're doing a Princess Frog spin-off kind of thing. Was Paul Newman one of the cast?
Starting point is 00:37:24 I don't know. Yeah, he was. He was Doc Hudson. Okay, right. And then he died. It's the last movie he did. I think they're doing a Princess Frog spin-off kind of thing. Was Paul Newman one of the cars? Who don't I imagine that? Yeah, he was. He was Doc Hudson. Okay, right. And then he died. It's the last movie he did. Not the last live action.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I think maybe the last live action was Road to Perdition. Do you think they'll reconstruct his voice? No. They wrote him out. All right. They're just like, that car died. And I wanted to be like, did he get in an accident? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:37:41 How do cars die? It was in a crooked- Because if you keep repairing them, they're fine. It was in a crooked card game if you keep repairing them, they're fine. It was in a crooked card game. They drove him into a river. They put a stick on his gas pedal and in between the steering wheels so he couldn't steer and they drove him off into a river. Can you do that in the world of cars?
Starting point is 00:37:58 Can you even get inside them? No one knows. No one knows if you can get in the cars in cars or would you just open the door and there's brains and blood? You don't know. We don't know what they're made of. It doesn't make any sense. They don't have any passengers.
Starting point is 00:38:09 No, but you can get in like a trailer though. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's odd. Yeah, so here's a question though. In the movie, in the world of Cars. Yes. So a car dies, right?
Starting point is 00:38:19 Or you can replace parts. Yes. And is it a ship of Theseus situation where if you replace all the parts of Lightning McQueen and then reassemble the old one with the new one, is that two Lightning McQueens? Two Lightnings McQueen. Lightnings McQueens.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I think some would say that Lightnings McQueen can't strike twice in the same place probably. Oh, that's interesting. So, but yes. Right. Yeah. Maybe it's like kit and car. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:42 The two, the good car and the evil car. I've never been a huge fan of Cars, but Cars 3 is quite good. Okay. It's like the Dark Knight Rises. Oh, wow. He gets a severe injury and then he has to come back. It's quite good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And it's about like it's a young man's game or young car's game, as it were, in this case. Does he have like his door in a sling or something? It's just on the couch watching TV? No, he has to go in front of it. And is the couch alive? He's on a VR thing and he can't use the VR thing because he's learning to drive through VR.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And he's like, I don't use VR, I use the feel of the road or whatever. They have VR. Yeah, it's VR. It's VR, Mason. Big car. Thank you. Virtual car. I'll be here for the rest of the episode where we're talking about no time to die.
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Starting point is 00:40:31 So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. So at the request of one Broden Kelly, who I wanted to get on the show, but then speaking to you, he's in Queensland, isn't he? That's correct. He's not even in the state.
Starting point is 00:40:48 We could have put him up on the screen. We could have. Yeah. But then not giving him a voice. He could have just sort of tapped on the glass comedically. Yes, that would have been really good. That's right. He had a lot of thoughts on No Time to Die,
Starting point is 00:41:00 and thank God he didn't spoil it for me because, boy, is this a ride. Isn't it, though? Yeah. So just quickly, in terms of box office, this has made $145 million in the US, $554 million in the rest of the world on a budget of $250 million. I think it's the number fifth or sixth highest grossing movie of the year, which is pretty good. Consider all things considered.
Starting point is 00:41:20 What do you think the story was? Oh, Bond's back, baby. He's back. We told him. You thought he retired. He did. He did retire. He's often retiring.
Starting point is 00:41:32 And he came back, but then you thought, did he retire again? Yeah, he did. But then he's back. But then you're like, did he go rogue? He went rogue and then he retired again. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:41 All the things happen. If you thought it happened 100 times, it did. But anyway, at the end of the last one, he retired to be with Madeline Swan, his great love, after his other great love died and he's like, all right, this one's all right too. Yeah. But he's got to come back because of terrorism and that.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Terrorism's happening all around him. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe there's secrets. The world's moved on, Bond. Oh, my God. Bond, what are you doing here, Bond? They've been sent. This is some bureaucrat.
Starting point is 00:42:09 He's like, Bond, you're a big hammer or something. You know, they're always like that. Yeah, yeah. The world doesn't need a big hammer anymore. It needs drones or something. It needs internet, you know? And he's like, well, maybe I don't have internet, but you can't use internet.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Sometimes you need to. Sometimes you need to throw a man out a window., maybe I don't have internet, but you can't use internet. Sometimes you need to. Sometimes you need to throw a man out a window. You can't do that with internet, can you? Maybe you could throw him in, like, you could kick them out of windows. Or of an internet cafe, for example. And then the bureaucrats like. I just meant windows like the program. Because he knows he's being beaten, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:40 But anyways. You need a man on the ground. Yes. Or a woman, you know. Anyway, Bond comes back, doesn't he? Yeah. Anyway, that's the plot of the movie. But what I man on the ground. Yes. Or a woman, you know? Anyway, Bond comes back, doesn't he? Yeah. Anyway, that's the plot of the movie. But what I like about this movie, I thought it was a very good combination of.
Starting point is 00:42:51 The old and the new? The old and the new, but like a good, it was a good solid, like the world's at stake action movie, but it also had like a good human drama to it. I agree. Like it worked in combination. It didn't feel like, oh, well, we've tacked one on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:04 That kind of thing, which I enjoyed. That was kind of my thought going into this. Like, he retired, he found Spectre, where are we even going from here? And it does feel like a bookend to Casino Rowland in a lot of ways, but in the best ways. Like, it does spend a lot of time kind of wrapping up Spectre and, like, exploring his relationships and things like that. But I'm surprised.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I think this was pretty fucking solid. I think this was a really good send-off. As somebody who didn't particularly enjoy either Skyfall or Spectre. Yeah. But, you know, enjoyed Casano Royale and to a lesser extent but still pretty solid upon a re-watch Quantum of Solace. I thought this, yeah, I thought this was a really good capper in terms of just rounding out Daniel Craig's.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Taking a big specky like capper. Taking a big, yes. Famous Australian footballer. Warwick capper, yes. That's right. I thought this was a good finish as Daniel Craig's tenure of Bond, which has been going for 100 years. It's interesting because you say that, and that is true.
Starting point is 00:44:01 He's the longest serving Bond? He would. Oh, Connery came back like unofficially. Right, okay, yeah. Yeah, maybe. Who knows? And also this was delayed, so that probably. Yeah, no, that is true. He's the longest serving Bond? He would. Oh, Connery came back like unofficially. Right, okay, yeah. Yeah, maybe. Who knows? And also this was delayed so that probably. Yeah, no, that's true.
Starting point is 00:44:09 They filmed it four years ago or whatever. But it's interesting because a lot of the things I don't like about the Craig movies, like the fact that they all tied in and everyone's got a destiny and he's got a brother and like all the plot lines bleed over and all these relationships. I think this movie actually as a finale benefits from that because if that world didn't exist, he would have just done another mission. That's true. And which is what I like to see in a Bond movie a lot of the times, but there is a legacy
Starting point is 00:44:35 now to this character and all the other Bond movies are connected. And these ones are very much like now a self-contained set of stories that you could watch as one narrative. Yes, that's true. And they make some big swings which you can't do in a general ongoing Bond narrative. That's true. And I think this movie benefited from that.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Finally something, something, enough time to die, et cetera. The joke we do. We've done it for years. We've done it for 100 years. We wrote it on that cave wall or that dinosaur or that thing you said. That's right. There's some pretty big spoilers, but we won't get to them yet. I do think this story somewhere along the way kind of trips
Starting point is 00:45:14 and falls up its own ass, like somewhere in the middle that it kind of gets caught up in deception and who's who and whatever. But I think it totally comes together then by the finale. Well, you know, I think, you know, because of this podcast, or just as a movie fan, but also because on this podcast, you know, we like to nitpick. I do have nitpicks about this movie. Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 00:45:37 But I'll save them for after in the spoilers. But I think sort of generally, you know, it's a beautifully shot movie, James, which I enjoyed. It's interesting because having like recently rewatched all the others and Spectre in particular, a lot of those scenes have like a weird kind of mist and kind of fog over them. Yeah, yeah. And like they're kind of a brownie, grey looking movie.
Starting point is 00:45:58 But this one reminds me of like Your Majesty's Secret Service kind of like huge vistas. You said, James. On Her Majesty's Secret Service kind of like huge vistas. You said, James. On Her Majesty's Secret Surface. I know I misspoke. On Your Majesty's Secret Surface. Surface Pro. Microsoft Surface.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Windows tablet. On Her Majesty's Microsoft Majesty's Secret Surface. Bing. But those like Bond movies of old of like beautiful real locations. And I actually watched it with Claire. Yeah. Who's not a massive Bond fan, didn't remember really any of these new movies in particular.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Do you ever lean in and go, that's Bond. That's James Bond. Yeah. When he says he's. He sucks. He's a bad guy. Watch out for him. If he was real, just stay away from him.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And yet he's probably the best guy in these movies. I don't understand it. Everybody else is worse than him somehow. in these movies. I don't understand it. Everybody else is worse than him somehow. But I think it did a really good job of showing like exotic and interesting locales. And I think like a lot of these movies are now missing that
Starting point is 00:46:54 because you can travel the world. And it's like, wow, it's an airport in fucking Jamaica or whatever. It's like who cares? There's a scene in this. It's in the trailer. There's an action sequence set in sort of a heavily canopied forest. Like there's a car chase through some sort of- He flips like five SUVs in that car chase.
Starting point is 00:47:13 But there's this car chase and it goes in this countryside and then it goes to this heavily sort of very dense forest and it dips down to sort of really dark and grey. And I'm like, oh, this is what most movies look like now. That is true, yeah. And then, you know, they come out of the chase afterwards and I'm like, oh, this is beautiful again. So the director of this.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Harry Fukunaga. Yeah, he's got a background in horror. And I think you see a bit of that because the main villain, like the opening scene in particular, because there's a Madeline Swan flashback and you find out what happened to her parents or whatever. Which was alluded to in a previous one. Yeah, she mentioned that her mother was whatever and something.
Starting point is 00:47:51 You know, her mother is whatever and something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was a Microsoft Surface salesperson and someone came back for revenge. He did Maniac, the movie Maniac. I think it's an Elijah Wood movie. The Beast of No Nation that I haven't seen. But I think, yeah, but't, I think it's an Elijah Wood movie. Beasts of No Nation, which I haven't seen. But I think, yeah, but this movie, I think it brought something a little bit different that was definitely lacking in the last movie.
Starting point is 00:48:12 And I think it's, I know for you, you don't love Skyfall. Correct. And there is a silliness to this because there is a plot of like a virus that specifically targets people due to nanotechnology or something. Is that a spoiler? Not really, I guess. Is it? Well, it's just the thing.
Starting point is 00:48:26 It's the thing that is pushing the plot forward. But it doesn't really matter. No, not really, no. No, I didn't mind that. Look, I think the two thoughts that I had regarding that, I think it felt to me like they made a specific choice to make a very good action movie as opposed to like, let's make this as Bond as humanly possible.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Let's just throw it. Like a Die Another Day? Like it's the big finale or whatever. It did have Bond-like elements to it, but it didn't feel to me at any point that it was like, okay, we've got to shoehorn in all the Bond stuff. I feel like when let's make a solid action movie with good action sequences that are fun and we'll tie in bond elements to it but it wasn't like
Starting point is 00:49:05 you know let's let's let's do all the bond cliches and then we'll see if there's a movie to this yeah um and even then they managed to squeeze some stuff in because like towards the end like you know he meets up with q and i'm like give him the give him the gadgets i think he even said out you gotta give him the gadgets oh but that was my other thought because you said um uh it's you know he's the plot device. It felt like the modern-day version of, okay, the bad guys hijack two nuclear warheads. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And I thought it was quite a good modernisation of that. And they even used like an old nuclear facility. Yes. Or whatever in the end. We had a classic villain layer, but it did feel kind of real as opposed to, yeah, okay, well, we've got- Exploding Hotel. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Which might be a real hotel, apparently. A real hotel, yeah. A real Exploding Hotel. I think I- Look, he's always retired and going rogue, and he certainly is in this movie in particular. Bloody lucky for some. You see that bloody villa he lives in?
Starting point is 00:49:59 Not bloody wrong. But I like how he comes- Because he's forced back into the game and he goes in to eat M. Eat M. He goes in to eat M. Eat M. He goes in to meet M. And it's interesting. Oh, no. Hum, hum, hum, hum.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And M is like. I always knew I'd go this way, Bond. M's like quite a villainous character in a lot of ways. There's a lot of people who run like secret service branches probably are in real life. But I like how he goes into m when he's not working for him he's just like i don't give a fuck i don't work for you i don't have to listen to you i'm tired i'm old i'm fucking sick of it i like that i just like this version of bond who's just he's
Starting point is 00:50:36 just had a fucking gutful he's not taking advice from anybody he's not listening to anybody anymore he's just he's just fucking sick of it. You know, his knees are sore. He's burnt out. He's been chasing fucking ghosts for two decades. But I think also it did. It's interesting because in some ways it feels like he barely got started, but he's been doing this for decades. When was Casino Royale?
Starting point is 00:50:58 2006. 2006, okay. 15 years. Yeah, right. And I think also one of my big complaints of Spectre is that I didn't believe that he'd leave for Lea Seydoux, because she's heir to the Seydoux fortune family, Fortune 500 family. But I think their relationship in this was very well done.
Starting point is 00:51:14 They really saved that character, I feel, in this. I feel like everybody has really, like everybody's really moulded together as a team in this one. It's kind of a shame it's the last one. Yeah, it's kind of a shame it's the last one. We'll have to talk about that afterwards. But, yeah, I felt like everybody, you know, he had a, Bond had developed a good rapport with Moneypenny and with Hugh
Starting point is 00:51:38 and we've got the new 00 agent in Lashana Lynch. But she was great. I think if you had concerns that she, well, I never thought she was going to be the new James Bond and whatever. Yeah, right. Because she is the new 007. It's in the trailers or whatever. But it felt fine.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Like not that I was ever worried about it, but I think if you were worried about it, people aren't complaining about this. They probably are. Yeah, they definitely are. But like there's not really, they're a good kind of counterpoint. I think they are, yeah. She's essentially like the younger version of him, really.
Starting point is 00:52:07 She's what he was in a lot of ways, you know. It's like getting mad you go to the accounting firm that does your taxes and the new accountant. Like how dare you? Where's the other guy? Oh, the accountant. Speaking of other agents and whatnot, Ana de Armas appears in this for like 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Really fun. Yeah. Really cool and fun. And they've been talking like a spin-off. I don't think they're going to do it. But she was terrific as well. And it was, you know, I'm not sure of the timeline, but, you know, it was a nice sort of callback to their team up
Starting point is 00:52:41 in Knives Out. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. They were in Knives Out together. I think everybody forget forgot about that. They were in Knives Out together. I think everybody forgets about that, especially since like in the – They're both so different. They're both so different, yeah, and especially Anna Diamus, who in Knives Out is sort of this very kind of like timid,
Starting point is 00:52:56 very small kind of character, whereas in this she's like in her evening gown and she's firing two guns at once. Yeah, loved it. I also loved that him and Felix Leiter are mates. Yeah. That's great to see him again. And Billy Magnusson. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Incredible. Big fan. He should have been the Flash. Big face. Big face of. I don't reckon he should have been a Wally West or a whatever. Yeah. Should have recast that.
Starting point is 00:53:22 That's all I'm saying. A lot of charisma in that guy. Put him in it. Nothing ever came of that because he was the prince rival in the Aladdin remake, right? Yes. And then we're going to do a spin-off. They are doing a spin-off.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Oh, it's still happening. I don't know. They might have talked about it on Disney Plus Day or whatever. You know what else I thought was terrific in this? What's that? He drinks so much. Yeah. And I think it's probably because he's in pain and also
Starting point is 00:53:44 because he's a drunk. Everybody's drinking a lot. Em's really putting him away. That scene. There's a line in it where I think Bond says, again, when he's not working for Em anymore, he's like, you seem really thirsty today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:56 You just finished that drink, you're getting another drink. Yeah. And your desk sucks. Yeah. You're a little man on the big desk. Yeah. Bond. You know, like man on the big desk. Yeah. Bond. He's doing big action scenes and he's pausing
Starting point is 00:54:10 to just drink in between. There's a moment where he just swipes a martini during a sequence so he just drinks it and then just throws it away. Because he's probably sore, you know what I mean? He's sore and he's drunk and he's probably got a headache. And he's going about his day.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I also thought the action sequences were really terrific. There's like John wicks up some stairs at one point. Yes. He's made to look like a one-er. The opening sequence of the chase in the Italian villa or whatever. The palazzo probably. Whatever that is. Whatever a palazzo is.
Starting point is 00:54:40 There's a moment and it's in the trailer where they all surround the car and they're machine gunning it. Yes. And in the trailer it just kind of cuts so he, you know, pops the machine guns and he like spins his way out of there. But in the actual movie he kind of sits in it as like an intimidation tactic and he just waits and he's just kind of seeing it unfold and the windows are dinting in and he's like the woman
Starting point is 00:55:03 who he thinks betrayed him is just like freaking out. Yeah. And it just really kind of ramps up. And it could have just been like, oh, he comes in, he's trapped, oh, he's got machine guns and he's out of there or whatever. Yeah, yeah. But just that I think these action scenes were so well paced. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Also, just a little side note. I'll see if it's still here. But a friend of the show Pooj, who has a YouTube channel called Pooj Variety Hour, P-O-O-J-S, did a little edit. Who's me? This is ages ago, a billion years ago. Is this the...
Starting point is 00:55:35 It's 40 minutes of Bond spinning in a circle firing machine guns. I'm not sure. Here it is. What's the date on that? One year ago. Wow. It's No Time to Die's Aston Martin spinning and shooting for 40 minutes if you want to track that down on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Check it all out. He also does a bunch of other videos about – he's done some Weekly Planet stuff. He's done some like Easter eggs and things you've missed in TV shows and movies and such. Oh, very good. So check that out. Pooj.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yes. I love Pooj. Big fan movies and such. Oh, very good. So check that out. Pooj. Yes. I love Pooj. Big fan. Yeah, just really, really good action. What did you think of the opening song and credits and stuff? Oh, I really like the Billie Eilish song is pretty solid, I think. Again, it's down tempo in the way that the Spectre one was. But I really liked the
Starting point is 00:56:28 opening titles. Good. DNA and so forth. God, DNA and so forth. So, I also like there's a number of times in the movie where Daniel Craig speaks on his phone on speaker like a boomer. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:56:42 You know how they do it? I feel we have to talk about this. How did you about the product placement were you were you overwhelmed i didn't honestly notice it that much how did you feel about it i didn't mind it i think uh it's it seems like q's got a terrible watch he's got a new swatch there's a there's a swatch swatch watch a q design swatch watch i don't know you showed me it before the show. I don't care. Because you bought it. No, I didn't buy it. I like Swatch generally. Yeah. I bought a Swatch the other day, but I don't like this watch.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah. But Bond obviously has a new – obviously he has the new Omega Seamaster Professional Titanium. Sure. Did you know that it was designed by Omega in conjunction with Daniel Craig? Oh, really? Like apparently he's way into all this sort of stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:26 But I wonder, if I were to talk to Daniel Craig, if we were to interview him in any way, I probably wouldn't ask about Bond really beyond like, what's the process for that? Do they just put three watches in front of you on a desk and you go, that one? Or are you in there like, because I read this interview with him where he's like, okay, well, you know, we tested out a bunch of things
Starting point is 00:57:47 and we were like, well, he's in a lot of action so he wanted to be light so we made it out of titanium and all this sort of stuff. And I'm like, you didn't have to do any of that. You didn't have to. Yeah, that's true. You could have just been like, well, how's this? What do you think? You can have it for the low, low price of $9,000.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Is that all? Yep. US? Yeah. Easy. That's a steal, mate. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:58:07 But I like all his little outfits. I think that this might be his best assortment of little outfits maybe since Quantum of Solace. I like his little blacksmith outfit he's wearing at the end, his little suspenders that he's running around in. Suspenders in his sandal? Yeah, absolutely, yeah. He looks good.
Starting point is 00:58:20 He's also crazy fit in this. Yeah. He's busting out of that t-shirt. He put in like a couple years work into this. My wife, Claire, is like, my God, look at this man. Wow. She's a big fan. And where were you when she was saying this?
Starting point is 00:58:33 Right on the couch next to him? She made me sit in another room, Mason. She wouldn't let me watch it. Oh, no. No. You had to watch it on your phone in the toilet. No, we had a cinema good time. But, yeah, it was the fishing thing that she liked.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And, like, she's not a big fan of, like, the suit so much where it's all dolled up. She likes the, like, James Bond fishing. Also maybe his best tuxedo. You think so? I think so. It seems like it fits him well as well. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I think everything fits him. Here's the thing, though. So these are some facts that nobody's interested in except for me. So there were 33 of those tuxedos made for that one scene where he's in a tuxedo. Yeah, yeah. But they weren't – it's a Tom Ford tuxedo, but it wasn't made in like a Tom Ford factory.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Tom Ford gave them like the pattern and the fabric and the movie tailors made them. Oh, really? Okay. So I'm thinking maybe they went that let's not make them yeah i think they were like let's add an inch to everything like mason's been talking yeah shit we saw those videos and uh we are we are mad about it so i think maybe they yeah but there's they had to do 33 because like obviously he needs somebody's stunt doubles need
Starting point is 00:59:40 some and you need some for after he's you know fallen off some scaffolding and he's all ripped and you're gonna do press photos and whatever. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, totally. I totally get that. I also like how there's little attention to detail stuff. Like they got his scar from like Skyfall.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Oh, right, yeah. Things like that. Like just little things like I feel like in the old ones they just don't. Yes. You know what I mean? And this, I think that all tells the story of this guy who's just been getting just like whipped in the nuts and kicked off scaffolding or whatever for 15 years. You wouldn't want to fight Bond on any scaffolding.
Starting point is 01:00:14 He's had the experience at this point. No, no, thank you. I guess we could also talk about a couple of the villains. Well, so they mentioned EMP. They explained EMP. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's brief. And by that point, I'm like, I'm enjoying this.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I'm going to let that pass. That's right. I'm going to let that... And also, great use of an EMP. Yeah. Good stuff. There's a couple of things that returned of note. He just flat out does the shaken, not stirred thing,
Starting point is 01:00:39 which this one is kind of adverse to a lot of the time. You know, he won't do it. You know, the first time they're like shaken or stirred and he's like, don't talk to me. I hate you. You remember? Yes. And we see a vehicle that turns into a different vehicle
Starting point is 01:00:53 and that's like the plane turns into like a submarine. Oh, sure, sure, sure. And you don't really kind of get that much in these ones. I mean, it should have been a Lotus Esprit that fell out of a plane. I agree. I agree. But there's limits to what you can do in a modern day Bond, I guess. It did feel like a callback kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:01:12 But Blofeld is in it a little bit. Yeah. But it felt like a bit like we have to wrap this up. Yeah. More than like he's a threat. I have some thoughts about that in spoilers, I think. But yeah. But I liked Rami Malek as the villain.
Starting point is 01:01:26 You know, we're the same and whatever. I'm like, yep, okay. Also, does Q have Blofeld's cat? No, that's a Sphinx, I think. I was going to say, that's the Austin Powers Dr. Evil cat. Yes, that's right. Blofeld usually has a little white cat, I think. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Anyway, should we do spoilers? Let's do spoilers. I'm going to say best movie ever. I had a good time. I had a good time at the theatre. I'm looking forward to seeing this again. I think it might be my second favourite. Yeah, it might be mine, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yeah, to Casino Royale. Yes. But I also think that, and we'll do spoilers. Speaking of, you know, I always say I love Casino Royale except there's the casino moment uh yeah where they're playing poker and there's a you know mathis is always like they're putting all the money in and now they're gonna turn a card and you know who's got the best card like they really talk to you like an idiot when they could just have the thing play out there is a moment in this where there's
Starting point is 01:02:17 just a guy in a room explaining what has happened during one particular sequence there's just a guy in a room going this is what's currently happening. Which sequence is it? I'll have to save it for spoilers. Let's do some spoilers. Okay, yeah. I also think just before we do spoilers, I can see how if you're like a Bond traditionalist, that there are some things that happen in this which you would absolutely despise. But I think- But maybe you liked About Time.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I think it's good. And I think it's also good because- Let's just do spoilers now. Okay, so, folks, spoilers. This is spoilers for the movie No Time to Die. We're really going to get into it. It turns out – I was going to say, I'm going to start right at the end.
Starting point is 01:02:55 So if you haven't gotten to that point, don't listen. Stop listening. Here's your warning. Take the things out of your ears. Yep. If you're a fan – Of us. If you're even a casual fan of like Bond,
Starting point is 01:03:06 then I think this is definitely worth watching. Spoilers in five, four, three, two, one. They really just vaporised him, didn't they? They really did. They just vaporised him at the end. He's dead. He's dead and he's not coming back. He gave himself permission, something, something,
Starting point is 01:03:18 no time to die. The joke, Mason. If I'm going to nitpick, if I'm going to nitpick anything about this movie, it felt a little bit defeatist in the sense that he went, well, I can't be in a room with my girlfriend and my kid now, so I guess I'm going to die. I'll get exploded, I guess. Do you think technology might evolve at some point, Bond?
Starting point is 01:03:37 Well, see, the way I took it, right, if I had to look at this with a critical robotic eye. Well, you have to. Oh. Thank you. So to explain the device in this, it's a nanovirus. Yes. Shout out to the game Everything or Nothing,
Starting point is 01:03:56 which also has a nanovirus. Oh, right. That it targets individuals, but it also targets people in the same like blood lineage. Yes. It needs a sample of somebody's DNA, and then you program it into the thing, and then if you are exposed to that, the nanotechnology, you die,
Starting point is 01:04:12 and it's got your DNA, and you die. So you could put it on somebody, and then they shake your hand, and if it's programmed to kill you, it will kill you, but otherwise it won't kill anybody. But it will also kill your family, yes. Rami Malek scratches in with it at the end. And it's programmed to kill Madeline Swan and anyone with Madeline Swan's DNA so he can never be with her again.
Starting point is 01:04:32 But it turns out also he has a child. Yes. Which is another thing I liked about this, another thing which I think people also might hate. Yeah, right. But, I mean, it's inevitable, isn't it, with Bond? But they also make it very clear. Wrap it up, Bond, for God's sake.
Starting point is 01:04:48 It's amazing that he got his balls whipped to death. Amazing that he could have a kid. She's allergic to rope now. She was born allergic to rope. But she came out like a frayed knot. There we go. So you can't get it off, the virus. Apparently, yes. Which I think when they said that, I'm like, off, the virus. Apparently, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:08 So which I think when they said that, I'm like, this is coming back. Yeah, definitely, yeah. But the way that I see it is, so he gets shot. I think he knows he's going to die there anyway. Yes. I think he knows he can't escape. And I think he also knows that if he does escape, he doesn't want to risk passing the virus to somebody else and then it getting back to his family.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Yeah, right, right. Because you see it because he touches Madeline Swan and then touches Blofeld and it kills her. Yes. Kills him. So I think he's just not taking that risk. And I think he's just also at the point in his life where he's just like, I just can't do this anymore.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah, yeah. Like I'm just like a man like that if he existed cannot live forever Bond and Daniel Craig it felt to me like and we mentioned this earlier when Sam Raimi did Spider-Man 3 and they made him put Venom in and he didn't want to do Venom so at the end of
Starting point is 01:05:57 Spider-Man 3 Venom is reduced to Ash it felt very much in the same vein I think Daniel Craig was like literally destroy my version of this character so nobody can ever be like, maybe you'll come back, maybe, maybe. And you'd be like, maybe I will balls. No, so at this point, like once the spoiler, once everybody's seen this and people can talk about it openly,
Starting point is 01:06:18 he can just be like, well, my character was destroyed by a barrage of multiple warhead cruise missiles. Then they'll be like prequel something? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I had a thought just before we go into that, but I had a thought. It was interesting that they spent all of the last movie building up Spectre and Blofeld and then they just obliterated them all.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I think that was good because Spectre, it turns out, had its own Spectre. Oh, yes. So Rami Malek's character, his family was killed by Spectre, specifically Mr White, who was Madeline Swan's father. Correct. So he's basically going around killing all of Spectre. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Oh, and that's the thing I was going to say. When that happens, when there's the party, the guy that programmed the virus is like, it's working. Yeah. It's killing all of the Spectre members. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, okay. We know. We, the audience, would have figured it out. And if you didn't yeah you're right we know, we the audience would have
Starting point is 01:07:06 figured it out and if you didn't you're probably not thinking about it, you're probably just watching the movie exactly, and they explain it later anyway but I think that was I think giving this movie dedicates a lot of time to destroying Spectre, which I also think is good in terms of you don't have to have
Starting point is 01:07:22 James Bond chasing Spectre around you know, so you've got in terms of you don't have to have James Bond chasing Spectre around, you know? Yeah. So you've got this other organisation who don't exist to do that, but that's ultimately the leader's goals. But I think also giving him personal stakes and giving him a daughter, giving him something to live for and then something to protect makes for a compelling final entry. Yes. Not as an ongoing thing if they had to do five more after this yes you've written yourself into a corner and he was evaporated so you can't what are you gonna do yeah yeah uh gonna put a put a suit on a pile of
Starting point is 01:07:56 okay here's here's if we may uh what do you think is going to happen going forward with this franchise i've written this exact same question. I have three options for you. Sure. In order from most likely to least likely. Okay. All right. Number one, they continue this universe with Lashana Lynch's 007
Starting point is 01:08:15 and they add more 00 agents because I think it's interesting. It feels to me, especially in this one, that everybody on the team has found their feet. And we've just gotten, we're back to there being, you know, a stoic M and we've got a Q's back and Moneypenny is back. Like these, they were all absent from like the Casino Royale and they've slowly built them all back in. Yeah. And now we've just knocked off 007 or James Bond. So why not reuse the team?
Starting point is 01:08:41 And I'm wondering like maybe they could do, I mean, you know, they're obviously reticent to do a TV series. They said they'd never do it, but maybe they would do it. We'll see. But I think they could probably add in more 00 agents. We could see what all the other 00 agents are always doing because they're constantly being mentioned. Do you occasionally see one? I don't think we've ever seen another 00 besides.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Trevelyan? Oh, no, I meant in the current continuity. No, we haven't. Yeah, but... Maybe. Because they're always saving the world, presumably. I mean, presumably they're all having as colourful adventures as Bond is. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Maybe he's the only one. He's never met them. No, it's true. They just tell him. He's just overworked. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, no, we have to give you this mission because 009, he's snowed under with paperwork.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Sorry. He's so snowed under that his office door is locked. He can't get in there. It's almost like he's not there, but he is there. He opens it and just leads to an alley. That's right. Again, I think people. So that's number one.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Well, here's the thing also. All the social media handles for this franchise are just 007. Okay. They're not a James Bond 007. Yeah. And I'm wondering if they're like the value in this is 007, like the number. Maybe we can just do something with that.
Starting point is 01:09:57 And also I think maybe they'll go with this just because they can always reboot it again later. Well, that is true. And, Ian, my feeling is because it's been so long since the last one, I think if this does well and it's well received, they'd want to do another one fairly quickly. If they just immediately reboot it, people will be like, what is this? But I think if they already have the established cast and crew
Starting point is 01:10:18 and settings and whatever, they can just. Well, speaking of, how's about if they continued it and they kept everybody. Yes. Which is what they'd often do. And then just roll in a new James Bond and just kind of, you know how Judi Dench folded over or whatever. Or even if you could keep everybody and you could keep even your Ana de Armas or whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Yeah, yeah. And then you put it in the 60s. So everybody. Well, there was my, yeah. Q is still Q. Yeah, yeah. And M is still M. But it's like.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah, maybe. It's a 60s era I think that would I think people would be like what does this mean I would love that I was going to say like with the modern
Starting point is 01:10:51 if they kept with the first one they could add Anna Diamus could become a double O bring her in people like her obviously you can't bring back Felix Leiter because he's dead
Starting point is 01:10:59 oh that's a good death yeah but also well here's the thing also I like how they were mates I reckon I like how he hit that crushed that dude's head when he's like lying on the rock he's like yeah we're
Starting point is 01:11:08 brothers or whatever i'm a big fan why are you lying on a rock you know he's just gonna push push the car on your head so second one was again full hard reboot everybody fresh start you either do it in the modern day or you do it in the 60s i think that's they could do that yeah i think probably modern day just because it's i think you're more likely here's the third one and it's um so unlikely but it is also the dumbest idea i've ever had so i can't rule out they won't do it yeah uh at the start of the next one they recover bond he's not quite dead they put him back together with reconstructive surgery it's the next actor to play bond and they just continue on i really hope they don't do that i reckon they could do it i
Starting point is 01:11:50 don't i don't think i think it's so stupid yeah but i think they could do it and he could be like i can't go back to my family because of the nano exactly i think they could even be like yeah because the nanites that's how i survived or like we did the dna thing from die another day pretty dumb so yeah but they would they they roll in the the bond looks different they do it like doctor who they roll it into like well he he looks dip and and some of his memories have gone but he's still we need him for because he's a whatever we've fixed his knees more like james brown hair yeah nice james blonde yeah yeah we had to give him brown hair this time around, yeah. Also, he looks like Idris Elba.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Yeah. We reconstructed him to look like. Yeah. God, I hope they don't do that. I reckon they might do it. I'm sure they're considering literally all the options. They would think about it, yeah. But, yeah, I think you're right in terms of, like,
Starting point is 01:12:38 this universe is very well established in a competent way at this point, especially after this one. Off the back of Spectre, I was, which I'm sure I said at the time, I was just like, bin it. It's done. Kill it. Yeah, yeah. But now they're in an interesting position where it's good again,
Starting point is 01:12:54 in my eyes. Yeah, yeah. But I still think there are people who are like, he's got a daughter and he died and how dare you and whatever. But so much of this is interesting. And there is a big part of me that's like, I want to see more of this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:07 But also maybe just leave it. Yeah, right. But also that's how can they when it's like. Yeah, because I feel like they could do more in this universe with the new agents and et cetera. There would be people who would be upset because they're like, I just want it to be James Bond or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:23 But I wonder if like Eon Productions and all those guys are just like. And Amazon who own this now. Yeah, I think they'd probably be like, well, we've got to do something. So, you know. What do we do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spectre has its own Spectre. Yes, that's true.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Yeah. Also, nobody checked Blofeld for a robot eye? Nobody checked him? No. I liked how he had his little robot eye out in the world. Yeah. And the EMP death of the robot eye. That was good.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Good stuff. Good stuff all around. Yeah. He seemed tired and drunk. I like that. Yeah. Not Blofeld Bond. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Anyways, all in all, James Bond will return, it said at the end. It did say that. That's true, yeah. But it did say that, did it? Yeah, it did, yeah. Cool. God. It's going to be interesting to see what they do next. Isn't it, though?
Starting point is 01:14:09 I'm hoping for a, not hoping for, I think they're going to keep a bunch of the cast and reboot. That's what I think they're going to do. Because you know how they kept the same queue for most of the movies and whatever, you know? So I think that's probably what they're going to do. But I mean, again, this is a different situation because they've recast. I agree, yeah. Because in the past they recast Bond.
Starting point is 01:14:26 They didn't kill him and bring him back. You're right. It's completely different. It really evaporated him into a fine mist. Anything else? I like the reappearance of We Have All the Time in the World, the song, because you then, you know, tragedy is arriving because that's what that song is for.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Which song is it? You know the song that goes, We have all the time in the world. When did that play? Just before. It was eviscerated? It was a couple of times. It was when Madeline Swan and Bond are arriving in their retirement
Starting point is 01:14:56 paradise place, blah, blah, blah, and I'm like, well, this is going to end in tragedy because it always does. Did you think they were going to kill him? Because that's the same music from On Her Majesty's Secret. Oh, okay. Surface. Yes. Did you think they were going to kill him? Because that's the same music from On Her Majesty's Secret. Oh, okay. Surface. Yes. Did you think they were going to kill him?
Starting point is 01:15:07 Bond. I wasn't even sure up until they like completely. And you know what I also liked about the very, very end? Yes. All the people at MI6 are sitting around and they're like, they had a drink to him and they're just like, let's get on with it. Yeah, yeah. That's why I think they're going to do a.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Yeah. I think they're like, I kind of feel like they're going to go, well, we have to modernize it eventually. And people get so mad whenever we cast a Bond. Maybe we just stop casting Bond. Maybe it'll be like a Jason Bourne, Jeremy Renner situation. Yeah, exactly. Where they'll make one and people go, boo, where's James Blonde?
Starting point is 01:15:39 That's exactly right. We want James Blonde. And then they'll have to either try and convince Craig to come back, which he will not do, or then they'll heartbreak him. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of thought, yeah, again, I kind of thought they would have done like a – but here's the thing also because he has retired so many times
Starting point is 01:15:54 and he has cheated death in that way of like he gets shot and he falls off a bridge and then he's survived somewhere else. I guess they really painted themselves in the corner in the sense that they couldn't have just done that. I think if they hadn't done that so many times previously, they could have blown up the island, we didn't see it, maybe it looked like he died, and then we do a cutaway at the end and he's in a helicopter.
Starting point is 01:16:15 He's hanging from a helicopter or he's, you know, nodding to Michael Caine or whatever and just being like, Mum, here I am in a cafe in Uppercut or whatever. But they couldn't because they've done it so many times. They're like, Mum, the only logical step is to turn him to ash. Yep. Anyway, it was good. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And I hope Broden Kelly enjoyed it. He said he did. Excellent. Okay, great. Should we move on then? Yeah, let's do that. Then what do you want to do? Let's talk about what we're reading.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yeah. And what we're going to read. All right, that's a great idea. Let's really sink our teeth into this. Okay. Nom, nom, nom. Like we're Bond and the segment is M. Hum, hum, hum.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Hum, nom, nom, nom. Westworld. Nom, nom, nom, nom. What are you Westworlding this week? I read the first issue of DC's The Human Target. Oh, it's back, is it? Written by Tom King. It's back.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Illustrated by Greg Smallwood. Yes, it is. Christopher Chance, The Human Target. It's back, isn't it? Written by Tom King. It's back. Illustrated by Greg Smallwood. Yes, it is. Christopher Chance, The Human Target, is probably one of my favourite sort of less... Take a chance, take a chance, take a chance, take a chance. That's right. He's aberring it yet again. He's one of my favourite sort of mostly forgotten DC characters
Starting point is 01:17:19 who I enjoy. Okay, cool. Well, yeah, and he had that show, sort of. He had two shows. He had three. So for people who don't know, which isn't you, James, you know, I enjoy. Okay, cool. And he had that show, sort of. He had two shows. He had three. So, for people who don't know, which isn't you, James, you know, he's a very specialised bodyguard.
Starting point is 01:17:32 He's a master of disguise and he becomes the person he's being paid to protect. Yes, like the pretender. No. But like he, no, James. And then when the bad guys show up and they're like, we're going to get this regular man. He's like, I'm not a regular man.
Starting point is 01:17:46 I'm the human target. You can shoot me as many times as you want. I'm a target. No, you can't. He's just regular. He sort of existed sort of, sometimes he exists in the regular DC universe and sometimes he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:17:57 I think it's because in the regular DC universe, there's people that can turn into somebody like down to their DNA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it seems kind of less impressive. Luke Bosh in Bad Hunter can do it or whatever. Well, exactly. He's always doing it.
Starting point is 01:18:09 And he's in that movie Justice League. Oh, yeah, that's true. But, yeah, he did a – there was a series by Peter Milligan and Edvin Bukovic, the late Edvin Bukovic. This was in like 1999. It's really good. Yeah. And it's a Vertigo series, so it's not set.
Starting point is 01:18:28 It's just like a sort of regular. At a place called Vertigo. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's really good. And then Peter Milligan did another miniseries and then like an ongoing series in Vertigo. But he's back in the DC Universe regular.
Starting point is 01:18:42 I was going to say, in on tv he was he was rick springfield of jesse's girl he was too wasn't he in the 90s i think and then he had a series that sort of abandoned the premise yeah it was mark valley is the human target and also had jackie l hayley in it where he was just a guy who was a bodyguard basically uh first season was good second season was awful and then he's also been in Arrow is that the same guy or a different guy no it was a different it was the guy who played
Starting point is 01:19:08 Nuke in Jessica Jones okay he was a human target in Arrow and they brought the gimmick back
Starting point is 01:19:16 like he was a master of disguise again sick but anyway issue one of this back in the DC universe so the premise of this and I think it's probably
Starting point is 01:19:23 going to be a 12 issue series because it's Tom King and he's always doing those but he's it's he's back in the DC universe. So the premise of this, and I think it's probably going to be a 12-issue series because it's Tom King and he's always doing those, but he's back in the DC universe and he's hit hard times and he's doubling for Lex Luthor, a man he would never double for before because he's terrible, and he survives two assassination attempts at the same time. And he comes to realise that one of them is somebody attempting to kill Lex Luthor but one was trying to kill him so he has to figure out who it is.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Okay, yeah, yeah. And he's going to bump up against various people in the DC universe. I think it's set in the 90s. Sounds fun. It's set in a sort of a vague time. Yeah. By the appearances of the characters you can sort
Starting point is 01:20:00 of place it in the 90s but it's real good. I like the character. I'm a big fan. Were they listening to Third Eye Blind? Is that how you knew? Yeah, that's the 90s. But it's real good. I like the character. I'm a big fan. They listen to Third Eye Blind. Is that how you knew? Yeah, that's right. Excellent. Well, I watched a little documentary on a little streaming platform
Starting point is 01:20:11 called Disney Plus called Under the Helmets, The Legacy of Boba Fett. Oh. Boba Fett. Boba Fett. Boba Fett. It's like a 22-minute documentary and it talks about all the people who have been the character and where he came from and the design
Starting point is 01:20:23 and how originally he was supposed to be a bunch of like, he was supposed to be like a super stormtrooper and then they're like, this is going to be expensive, we're just going to make one and whatever. And they talk a little bit about how he's come back in The Mandalorian and the bit about Jango Fett. And it was just a fun little kind of like, here's a little thing. Sounds fun.
Starting point is 01:20:41 And they used some footage and imagery and stuff that you haven't seen before from like the Star Wars archives which I always enjoy. Yeah, right. And they're just like you've never seen this behind the scenes footage before and I'm like, it's true. I haven't seen that. And that was what I watched. How much Ralph McQuarrie like art do you think is left? How much?
Starting point is 01:20:57 Like stuff that they haven't used? Yes. None. They used every single scratching. Yeah. Yeah. There. Yeah. There you go. That's fine, I say. I think it's fine also. Should we go to the next segment of the show? Let's do letters.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Oh, I was going to use my headphones. I don't need it for this. Okay. Let me think. Have I watched anything else recently? We watched some Iron Man for Caravan of Garbage. Sure did. The animated Iron Man.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Yeah, animated series. That was pretty something, wasn't it? We loved it. No, I didn't love it. We didn't like it. It was bad. Oh, I got a new dog. It's true.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I gave your dog a pet. Called Zippy. After Zippy the pinhead? That's right. It's on Claire's Instagram if you want to check it out. If you want to check out the Instagram. Good stuff. Smaller than you'd think.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Tiny little dog. It's tiny. It's tiny. I like it. Try to eat my beard. I'm going to get that dog. All right, let's just let it. Wait. You wait you said you were gonna do it i know i did you promised you told me it's time for lettuce the classic one was
Starting point is 01:21:53 you want to reach the show You want to reach the show? You want to reach the show, do you? You think you're better than me? Hey, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter. You've got a door, you've got a gym. Or WeeklyPlanetPod at Gmail. You think you're better than James? Email him. Dot com, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Like all these people. Normally I wouldn't go through the hundreds of emails every week of people that think they're better than James. What about you makes you better than me? Be specific. Yes. I'm not saying you're not better than me. What about you makes you better than me? Be specific. Yes. I'm not saying you're not better than me. You probably are, but you need to prove it.
Starting point is 01:22:30 All right. This is from Arend. Hello. He says, Dear James and Mesa, I was just listening to you talk about MODOK appearing in multiple MCE properties, and a question came to mind. After a few successful bad guy movies like Maleficent and Joker,
Starting point is 01:22:43 do you think Marvel Studios will one day make a bad guy solo movie? Which Marvel villain do you think would be a good pick? Doom. Yeah, I was going to say Doom. Doom's good. Anyone else? Trevor Slattery. Would you have to establish Doom in a...
Starting point is 01:22:57 No, you could just do it. You think you'd just do Doom? Yeah. Do you think Doom has the... No sympathy either, just a bad man. Yeah, do you think Doom has the name recognition of, say, a Joker, though? No. But, you know, Iron Man was an Iron Man.
Starting point is 01:23:11 That's true, yeah. Now he's Iron Man. I guess if you introduced... I wonder maybe they could introduce him as... Like, you give him the... It's like Killmonger. He's got a... Maybe he's got a...
Starting point is 01:23:21 He's a very compelling backstory and what have you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you just bring that Doom in. You know, that Book of Doom or whatever. Book of Doom backstory and what have you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you just bring that dude in. You know, that Book of Doom or whatever. Book of Doom, sure. Do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, you can bring in Fantastic Four and more.
Starting point is 01:23:30 He says, I think this could maybe solve some of the difficulty the MCU has with creating memorable villains. Ah, yes. Could be interesting to see the Avengers fill a more antagonistic role in the story. Yeah. I like that a lot. I think they should do it, and hopefully they will. Anyone else?
Starting point is 01:23:42 Let me think. Could we do it with any existing characters? Killmonger. You could definitely do it. Yeah, you could do it with Killmonger. Who else is there? Who else haven't they obliterated? Guy Piss is the Mandarin.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Guy Piss is the Mandarin. When did he get those tattoos? Was it pre-Extremis or post-Extremis? Pre. I don't know. What about like a Thanos? What about Thanos? Why didn't you stop Thanos?
Starting point is 01:24:03 I mean, we've seen the origin of Thanos basically, right? right yeah sort of uh i think we're going to see more of that anyway in upcoming stuff yeah i don't think i want to see a character whose arc is finished like i don't want to i don't want to see you know what the prequel to somebody who's done because the thing about like a maleficent or a or a hundred and one dalmatians lady yeah is that it's sort it's the idea of it is sort of to like build sympathy for a character that was prior to that was sort of one-dimensional and unlikable. And I don't want to see because I know where –
Starting point is 01:24:34 I know Thanos' arc has ended and I don't want to be like, oh, he was a poor little boy and everybody made fun of him for being – his brother made fun of him for being purple or whatever. And we can't do like – and if you do like real Mandarin, we sort of, we did that already. We're doing Loki, I guess, but he's not really on this point. Like, do you want whiplash? Do you want like characters like whiplash? Grey gargoyle.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Grey gargoyle. Hypnosia. But if you did like. Blizzard. If you did like. Who's trapped in a fridge by some bullies. That's a good one. If you did like, like whiplash or say like Yellow Jacket.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Yes. What if these guys were around before they had any superpowers? It's like, oh, who cares? Yeah, right, right, right. But maybe like Casilius might be an interesting one. Okay. But again, that's an early days. Kurt Russell, Abomination.
Starting point is 01:25:17 The actor Kurt Russell, sure. Yeah. I reckon probably New would work better. Mbaku, but he's not really a bad guy. He is in the comics. As soon as I saw the email, I'm like, Doom. So I think maybe that would work better. Mbaku, but he's not really a bad guy. He is in the comics. As soon as I saw the email, I'm like, Doom. So I think maybe that's the one. If you introduced him first, I think it would be a fun reveal.
Starting point is 01:25:33 This could never happen, but I think it would be a fun reveal. What about Hela? Early days Asgard stuff. And she's not, I mean, she's dead, but she's not. It could bring her back. Time travels. Yeah. I think it would be an interesting – they couldn't really do it,
Starting point is 01:25:45 but I think it would be an interesting reveal if you did the origin of Doctor Doom from the perspective of Doctor Doom and not the Fantastic Four. Yeah, totally. And sort of painted as he's this unreliable narrator. Yeah. And he is doing all this science and magic to, you know, help save his mother and all this sort of stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Because she's in hell. And you see Reed Richards as this arrogant guy who's trying to stop him. I think that would be interesting. And then you turn it around at the end and be like, and also he's a supervillain. But you can't really do that now, especially because people will be like,
Starting point is 01:26:13 oh, it's Dr. Dern. Yeah. But I think, you know, that's cool if you know that going in. Yeah, that's true. But if you don't know, then that's also cool for different reasons. It's cool, yeah. What about like you could do a Silver Surfer Galactus situation,
Starting point is 01:26:23 I guess. You could tie those two together. Yeah. That would be more Silver Surfer-y. And more of a buddy cop movie, wouldn't it? That's right. One of them's like having a kid and they've got to race to the hospital. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:33 And they're weaving out of traffic and you think they're going to solve a crime, but they're going to the hospital. That's right. Galacta. Galacta. No, he has a daughter called- Yes, no, I know. Oh, you do?
Starting point is 01:26:42 Okay, great. Wait, who's he married to? I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean he's married. That's true, yeah. Yeah. How does he – Afford the child support. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Because he's eating all the currency. That's right, yeah. Anyway, I've got a tweet here. Okay, please. For my watch stuff. It says, hashtag weeklyfunnerpod. The remastered GTA trilogy dropping this week makes me wonder if we're going to see remasters of movies soon.
Starting point is 01:27:05 George Lucas nearly ruined the idea, but I'm guessing modern movies have enough data to be improved by future re-renderings, hopefully avoiding rewrites. Well, it's interesting because on Disney Plus this week, they also opened up the aspect ratio for a bunch of MCU movies. So you can now watch them in like an IMAX format. How does that work? Does it just look like a box on your phone?
Starting point is 01:27:23 Taller, boxier. Okay. Do I need to get a bigger TV for that? I don't know. Do you want a bigger TV? Not really. Then you don't have to. Apparently the GTA Trilogy remaster is also terrible. But no, I think they've always been doing this. Not always, but they're always tweaking
Starting point is 01:27:37 stuff and they're like, this is the whatever cut and whatever, you know. Movies are very much in plus. Apocalypse Now and then it's the Redux or whatever. Exactly. Apocalypse When. Is that what it's called? Yeah, it's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Movies are very much in flux. Apocalypse Now and then it's the Redux or whatever. Exactly. Apocalypse When. Is that what it's called? Yeah, it's called Apocalypse When, Jase. It's the prequel.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Wow. And everybody's walking around going Apocalypse When. When's this happening? When's this going to kick off? Yeah. Right? Soon, I hope. I'm bored.
Starting point is 01:27:59 It's so boring out here in Vietnam. It's boring. It's just boring. Surf's not up yet. Yeah. I want to do a surf. But there's no surf currently. No surf's happening.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Yeah. Anyway, I think they're doing it. But I think, no, but you're right, I guess, in terms of they have everything. Have you seen any footage from that GTA remaster? Yeah, it looks like total shit. Like the redesign, I'm like, I'm not a huge fan of. But I could see how you'd go like, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:28:26 they've got a particular artistic kind of flair they're going for. But everything else about it is just broken. I was thinking about maybe getting it, but I'm definitely not getting it now. I love a re-release. I'm a huge fan. They're doing a Prince of Persia remake of the 2003 game, which is one of my favorite games of all time.
Starting point is 01:28:44 And they're redoing the whole thing and they've kept pushing it back and I'm like, I wonder if this is going to be any good. Probably not. But, like, I love the idea of playing a classic game, like, updated. They did it with all the, like, Resident Evil 2 and 3 and they're probably doing 4 and it's cool. It's good. They're probably doing Metal Gear Solid, the original one.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Oh, yeah, maybe. I would like to replay it. Yeah. But just, like, dumping, like, a broken version and, like, doing, maybe. I would like to replay it. Yeah. But just like dumping like a broken version and like doing slightly updated. I wonder if they would do. Because Kashima is not involved with the army anymore. I wonder if maybe.
Starting point is 01:29:15 The rumor is they are. Oh, they are. Okay, rumor is. Yeah, yeah. But I don't know. Yeah. Because it would be nice to play that original one with like updated graphics.
Starting point is 01:29:25 I agree. Or you could just play the original. They were good at the time play that original one with, like, updated graphics that are good. I agree. Or you could just play the original one. They were good at the time. I remember being like, wow. I think they still hold up for the most part, don't they? First one, maybe not so much. There you go. Here's a question from Marcel on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Go on. The only Marvel Studios news I want from Disney Plus Day is to hear that Sam Rockwell is back for the upcoming Armor Wars as Justin Hammer. Totally. Would love it, yeah. Please. Speaking of make Gid. Would love it, yeah. Please. Speaking of make Giddy's own movie, maybe.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Oh, Justin Hammer movie. Yeah. Why is he so terrible? Yeah. Just maybe, oh, yeah. It's a shame he's incompetent, that guy. They can fix that. Yeah, that's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Maybe just a series of comical scrapes that he gets into. That's fine too. Just to see a bit of Sam Rockwell out there. Just another Sam Rockwell movie. Just give us more Sam Rockwell. Sam Rockwell, what are you up to now? Oh, it's like The World According to Jeff Goldblum. It's called Sam Rockwell, What Are You Up To Now?
Starting point is 01:30:19 I'm not doing anything. You just see this shaky cam run up to him. Is it an ice cream van? He's getting ice cream. I'm just getting ice cream sam you do this every day stop it uh this is from marlin yeah he says have you ever or would you ever read a movie script without watching the actual movie the only script i can think that i've read is that harry potter cursed child script which is not a movie script it's a play script did you watch that before've read is that Harry Potter Cursed Child script, which is not a movie script. It's a play script.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Did you watch that before? Did you read that before you watched the movie? Yeah, like well before. Oh, because it was out. Yeah, it was out years before. Was the idea that it was theoretical, like it was a theoretical? No, they were making it. But they released the script in the UK.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Interesting. I would like to read the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood script. Oh, yeah. But, again, I have seen that movie. I think I have. I've read that movie. I think I have. I've read some things. I don't know. I've read some, like, comic scripts.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Yeah, and we've definitely read some cancelled. We've read plenty of cancelled comic book movie snippets. Yeah. So, yeah, probably. Yeah. Don't have any specifics right here. Me neither. But I think it would also depend on the the author yeah the screenwriter
Starting point is 01:31:27 because i know some script some scripts are like fun in and of themselves like the yeah you know the the scene descriptions are funny or like put it down exactly and whereas some scripts are just very basic of like i had to put it down interior hotel for you a man enters or whatever but some like they fill it with a lot of colour to entertain the actors and give them a sense of, you know, time and... Inside of a hotel. Inside a hotel. Daytime.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Decor. Drab. Drab. In came a man. He's drab. That's you. That's the actor playing this. He's drab and he's ugly.
Starting point is 01:32:00 He's got a stupid face. It's Sam Rockwell. What? No. I wouldn't put that down. It's Sam Rockwell. What? No. I wouldn't put that down. I'd tear that much face. Yeah, that's right. He looks dumb, like an idiot.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Probably can't even read a script to save his life, this man, this stupid man. It's amazing he hasn't fallen over or anything. He's so clumsy and stupid. He sucks, this guy. He's choking clumsy and stupid. He sucks, this guy. He's choking on an almond. Where did he even get it? There's no almonds here. There's not a bowl of almonds anywhere.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Did he get it out of his shoe? Did he fish an almond out of his shoe? Gross. This is you. Just to emphasize. This guy's gross and he's dead. Anyway. Got another letter? No, that's all the letters. I've got a tweet here from Aiden Westhead who says, Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Will you guys be covering Amazon Prime's new series, The Wheel of Time, at all? It's a great series based on author Robert Jordan's books and I feel you would both enjoy it. Excuse the pun, not my wheelhouse. But I think I'll... I don't have the time for it. What's it about?
Starting point is 01:33:08 I'm busy stalking Michael Jordan. I can't remember. I can't remember what it's about. It's Game of Thrones pre-Game of Thrones. It's a huge sweeping fantasy epic. I believe Robert Jordan passed away before he finished it. Or I've said that in the past and people have emailed it
Starting point is 01:33:25 and said, no, he actually did finish it. Carloth was the first three novels planned to, plus six book series, Wheel of Time span, 14 volumes, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, it went from 1990 to 2013. So it was not about time travel and stuff. No, I think the wheel. It was also a role-playing game. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Yes. Yes. Is that your impression of me? Yeah. It's good. That was really good. Thank you. That was also the dialogue from that script.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Yes. An almond I found in my shoe. Wait, time for a little nibble. I think it's an apricot pip. I'm still going to eat it. I'm an idiot. Stupid, stupid Sam Rockwell. He's all right, that guy.
Starting point is 01:34:08 I think he's clever. I still haven't watched fucking Foundation. Yeah, neither have I. We talked it up a lot, didn't we? I was looking forward to that for a hundred years. I'm just like, ah, I'm going to do it. I'm going to watch that Tom Hanks built a robot movie. I think I looked at my TV and I went, how do I get Apple TV on this?
Starting point is 01:34:23 I don't know anymore. Shout at your TV. Oh, it turns out you can add on Amazon Prime, you can add other channels to it, like other services. Like Paramount+. Like Shudder and Paramount+, all that sort of stuff. So I'll probably add some channels in the next couple of weeks. You should do it.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Are they free? No. It's like the same price as just getting them normally, but it's one less app. But it's also, you've got to go through an app to get to it. And that is big business. That is big business, baby. Mason, is that the show?
Starting point is 01:34:48 That's the whole show, folks. Thank you so much for listening. Wow. Did you have any thoughts about No Time to Die or other things that we've said? Are you Broden Kelly? Are you? Do you have any thoughts about it?
Starting point is 01:34:58 He's given me all his thoughts already. Okay. What did he say? God. He didn't want to get spoiled. He was kind enough not to. No, I'm not going to break the sanctity of the DMs. Okay. Yeah. What did he say? God. Then when it gets spoiled. He was kind enough not to. No, I'm not going to break the sanctity of the DMs. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Yeah. All right. What do you reckon of that? But he's choking on an almond. He has said that. That's the last thing he's said to me, so I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what he's up to now.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Joey's fine. Yeah, yeah. Folks, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling a friend to get them to listen. Thank you for lying to a friend to get them to listen. Thank you for leaving a five-star review on any app you choose. Helps people find it.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Because you can do it in an app, can't you? And then it'll be like, have you thought about listening to this podcast? And people go, maybe I will. And maybe you do. Yeah. You stupid man, they say. This is from Decomposition Brad who says, Avengers, five stars. Makes me want to be a pig rolling down a hill.
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Starting point is 01:35:57 Agreed. Well, that's everywhere now, isn't it, really? That's true. They're much better than my podcast, which is called the GoFo podcast, G-O-F-O podcast, and also much more successful. Love the show and keep up the great work. Also, can I be the official Roswell, New Mexico ambassador of the show? Also, Meso, what do you think the story was?
Starting point is 01:36:13 About a guy in Mexico. I think you're right. Anyway, snuck in a sneaky plug for the GoFo podcast. So maybe if you want to sneak in a sneaky plug for a local business or personal venture. maybe you're caught in a pyramid scheme and you need to kind of branch out a bit. Yeah, for sure. You know?
Starting point is 01:36:32 Maybe selling a product that isn't really a product. It's just a link to a JPEG or something. That's right. You know? Put that in there. Put it in there. Put it in your thing there. I love it.
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Starting point is 01:37:27 That's a recommended amount. Yeah, definitely. Any amount you wouldn't miss. Exactly. 25 cents? A quarter? Don't mind me just poking around the internet looking for more news. Do you wish Australia had quarters?
Starting point is 01:37:37 No. Okay. Less silver coins in general. Get rid of them. I don't even carry a wallet so much anymore. I slip a credit card into my phone case and I walk around like that. Wow. Just like this.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Look at me go. So if you see James has got his phone out, just swipe that phone. You get everything. That's right. Everything you'll ever need. All in one go. Very convenient. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:55 I wouldn't like it, just to clarify. Yeah, you'll hate it. And who are you going to call? The cops? You don't have a phone. Oh, my God. Right? I could shout to the cops.
Starting point is 01:38:02 There'd have to be one near. That's true. Fuck. Don't do that, please. Folks, folks, you can also go to BigSandwich.co for $9.00 a month. Hmm. Bonus podcast.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Movie commentaries. Early stuff. Yep. We're loving it. It's great. Great stuff over there. What are we doing this week on Big Sandwich? Oh, great question.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Is it a year? Yeah, we're doing the year 1973. Specifically, we have a podcast called James and Mace's Timecrafts where every episode we pick a year in pop culture. It's seemingly at random. It's a depressing year, but there's some interesting stuff in there. I agree. I like doing that.
Starting point is 01:38:34 I'll record that one. So, yeah. Next week's going to be movie commentary, and we probably will do a Spider-Man one, I'm guessing. Ooh. Yeah, we'll have to think about it. Ooh. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:38:55 Snake Eyes. The movie Snake Eyes. Oh, yes. Everybody in preparation for next week, watch the movie Snake Eyes. If you've watched it before on a recommendation. You've probably forgotten a lot of it. Probably watch it again, I reckon. Watch Snake Eyes. Get it fresh in your mind. Next week we'll talk about Snake Eyes. Order you've watched it before on a recommendation. You've probably forgotten a lot of it. Probably watch it again, I reckon. Watch Snake Eyes.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Get it fresh in your mind. Next week we'll talk about Snake Eyes. Order it off Amazon.com. The big bumper Snake Eyes episode. Dust off. You wouldn't even need to dust it off because you'd probably just. Dust off your katana. I was going to say.
Starting point is 01:39:16 You can't be. Swing it around your place. No, no, no. If you've got a katana, you don't need to dust it off because you've been practicing the blade. You've been practicingising the blade. You've been practising your cutters. Same with your HD DVD of Snake Eyes. That's right.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Which wouldn't get a single speck of dust on it because you are so often... Spinning it every day. Oh, my God. Putting it in and out of your DVD player. Well, this next episode is for you. We're going to talk about Snake Eyes. You better believe it.
Starting point is 01:39:39 All the stuff that happens in Snake Eyes. Motorcycle sword fights, probably. I don't know. Where's he get his Snake Eyes? Well, tell you. You've already seen it. You know. Yeah. Nice. So, anyway. Allcycle sword fights, probably. I don't know. Where's he get his Snake Eyes? We'll tell you. You've already seen it. You know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Yeah. Nice. So anyway. All right. Thanks for listening. Grabbed our gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. And goodbye.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Snake Eyes. Snake Eyes. But Snake Eyes next week. Yeah, that's right. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Sorry, I didn't mute you during this part. Okay, that's cool. But what were you saying?
Starting point is 01:40:03 I was going to say, don't, to say, for people who listen this far, we're not actually going to do Snake Eyes. We're never going to talk about Snake Eyes. Everybody who's switched off has already watched Snake Eyes. They've already, in anticipation. They've already watched Snake Eyes. They're ready. But that's because we don't love them as much as we love you.
Starting point is 01:40:17 That's right. We're all the way at the end. The true fans. The true fans know we're never going to do Snake Eyes ever. No matter how many times we promote, we're going to do Snake Eyes because I've heard it's not very good. And they're never going to make another G.I. Joe movie so we don't even have to
Starting point is 01:40:26 watch it for anything in preparation. That's right, because we already did the other G.I. Joe movies. The other ones, you know. It's a shame because I like Henry Golding.
Starting point is 01:40:31 I think he's very charming. I agree. He'd make a better Bond than he would a Snake Eyes. Probably. I've never seen the movie Snake Eyes and I never will. But next week,
Starting point is 01:40:39 we actually are watching Snake Eyes. Yeah, we're going to watch Snake Eyes actually, guys. Here's a little tip for you, the true fans. We actually are going to watch Snake Eyes. If you switched off thinking that we
Starting point is 01:40:46 weren't watching snake guys congratulations big bumper snake guys episode next week okay bye everyone this podcast is part of the planet broadcasting network visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates i mean if you want it's up to you If you want. It's up to you. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
Starting point is 01:41:27 FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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