The Weekly Planet - 418 The Best & Worst of 2021

Episode Date: January 3, 2022

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Look we've been putting it off for long enough, it's Snake Eyes revie...w time. We get into it right after the Best & The Worst in entertainment in 2021. Thanks for all the support in 2021!James chatting Book of Boba Fett with Star Wars Explained: https://youtu.be/UtP7eqwcoRMBest/Worst of the Year Awards Survey https://forms.gle/8aFShmP9tmSo7s31700:00 The Start05:13 Betty White RIP06:26 The Rock vs Vin Diesel14:09 The Batman Trailer16:50 No More Matrix23:04 Tom Holland Big Dollars28:50 DCEU Huge Changes 38:35 Best & Worst of 2021 Awards39:41 Best Marvel Series44:06 Best MCU Property46:06 Best DCEU Property47:23 Best Comic Book Movie49:04 Best Comic Book Movie Ever49:23 Best Comic Book Villain53:59 Best Podcast Credits56:47 The Game is on01:04:04 Best Hair or Wig01:07:24 Worst Hair or Wig01:10:28 Best Animated Movie01:13:13 Best Horror Movie01:16:22 Best Video Game Adaptation Thing01:17:49 Best Video Game01:21:04 Best Movie Trailer01:23:33 Best Streaming Service01:28:13 Favourite Caravan of Garbage Series01:30:31 Best Series Ever01:36:19 Most Anticipated Series of 202201:39:28 The 'Find and Replace' Award 01:42:00 Worst Movie Ever01:49:05 Just a Movie01:52:17 Best Movie Ever01:56:46 Most Anticipated Movie of 2022 02:03:28 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read02:08:52 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, but with me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. I'm changing the theme song next year. Really? I'm doing it. So 2023.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Shut up Nick Mason. I'm changing the theme song next year. Really? I'm doing it. So 2023. Shut up, Mason. Folks, we're rounding out 2021 with a bang in the only way we know how, which is late. At the start of 2022. Fine. Should I change it in 2023? Should I give it another year? Yeah, give it another year. I think that's going to give people enough time to ease into
Starting point is 00:01:41 the idea that I'm going to change it. We'll do a countdown every week. James, you started the episode. I'll tell you what, you're down on this theme tune. But as I was saying earlier, as you play it, you play it through your headphones and you were grooving away like you were listening to the music of Jeremy Renner. It was the last time.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Oh, for you. No, not the last because there's 52 more episodes or whatever for the year. But, yeah, I know that because there's 52 more episodes or whatever for the year. But, yeah, I know that it's coming to an end. Yeah. So I'm going to drink it in while I can. I'm also jazzed because it's a big episode this week. I think you're going to groove away to that theme song so many times,
Starting point is 00:02:14 a la our Jeremy Renner album, that you are going to have a new appreciation for it by the end of 2022. And you won't want to change it. Like a Jeremy Renner album? Yeah. Okay, cool. Well, we'll see, won't we? We do. It's a Jeremy Renner album? Yeah. Okay, cool. Well, we'll see, won't we? We do.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's a big wrap. I'm excited. James, it's okay because it's the end of the year. So, you know, sure we might be low on energy and stumbling over our own words, but it's the end of the year, so don't worry about it, folks. It's the end of the year. That's right. If this were the start of a year and we were just really just limping through.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Can you imagine? Can you imagine just the lack of momentum by the end of the year? Oh, God. Horrendous. But we're at the end of the year, so it's fine. That's right. Happy New Year, everybody. Happy New Year, folks.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Normally this episode happens in December, but there were some big releases at the end of the year, so we had to push it back. We're going to be taking a break this month until late January-ish. Sure, yeah. I haven't got a hard date on that yet. Two or three weeks. There's a Best Of going up next week.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Royal College is ending together. So, yeah, this will be the last episode for three to four weeks, whatever it is. I can't remember what it is. But, folks, if you're... If you're jonesing? If you're jonesing for a weekly Planet Fix, I mean, first of all... Or drugs.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Or drugs, sure, yeah, yeah. Do this instead of drugs. Oh, that's a good message, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, go on, this instead of drugs. Oh, that's a good message actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, go on. Side note. Sure. You know how on like old arcade games there used to be like that little pop-up
Starting point is 00:03:32 that would say winners don't use drugs? Yeah. And it said – there was a quote by like this guy William F. Sessions. Okay. And he was like the head of the DEA or something like that. I looked him up the other day and it turns out after he left the DEA, he was like a, like a,
Starting point is 00:03:47 um, like a defense attorney for like a drug kingpin like mere years afterwards. And I'm like, that's incredible stuff. I would also argue that a lot of maybe hyper competitive video game players might be on some kind of amphetamine, uh, some kind of,
Starting point is 00:04:02 uh, you know, speed. I'd imagine. I don't know. Lots of pointy fingers. Probably be higher in adrenaline from playing Fortnite. Probably playing Fortnite.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So, yeah, this is our yearly wrap-up where we go through basically Rock Hollings, the great man, has put together a survey. We've got 3,000 people who have filled this in to talk about the best and the worst of what they've enjoyed for the year. If you don't want to jump ahead to that, there are time codes. But there's also a bit of news up top. Well, I was going to say just before, I had half of a thought. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:31 But it's okay that I didn't finish the thought because, again, it is the end of the year and not, in fact, the start of the year. So it's fine. What I was going to say is if you do want to hear more of us, you can sign up to BigSandwich.co. But also, both of us have appeared on a bunch of other people's podcasts over the last year. So we were both on an episode of Book Cheat. Yep. Dave Warnke just got engaged.
Starting point is 00:04:49 So congratulations, Dave Warnke. He's not listening to this. We were also on, I've been on. We banned him, by the way. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, we banned him from listening to our podcast. Every platform. We've hired somebody to swat his phone out of his hand.
Starting point is 00:05:02 We were both on separate episodes of Confessions of the Idiots. That's right, yep. I was on an episode of Mission Zack's Leguizamarama. Yep. All sorts of stuff. I think you can just search for our names on Spotify or whatever. Yeah, it's all there. I did a Star Wars Explained this week.
Starting point is 00:05:16 We talked about the Book of Boba Fett, Episode 1. Oh. A live stream, which are there, which we'll also probably talk about in what we're reading. And look, the content won't stop at BigSandwich.co over this break, will it, mate? Exactly right. We've got to keep moving.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I was going to say just before we get to that. Oh, my God. No, no, no. Okay, so William Sessions, the American attorney and jurist who served as the United States District Judge of the United States District Court from 1987 to 1993, after leaving the public sector, Sessions represented Semyon Mogilevich, international leader of the Russian mafia.
Starting point is 00:05:43 That's normal, isn't it? It's normal, a normal thing to do. Winners don't do drugs or whatever he said. I don't know. Pretty great, right? It's one of my faves. This week we've got news of The Fast and the Furious. Ooh, big dramas.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Trailers ahoy for The Batman, the future of The Matrix, some box office updates and maybe a big payday coming for Tom Holland. Yes. Bad news for DCEU fans potentially. And then we've got our yearly wrap-up again. Time codes are below.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But we're, of course, going to start off with the death of a legend coming in two weeks shy of 100 years old. Betty White, aged 99. Didn't quite make it into 2022. Thank God, though, quite frankly, because does anybody really want to do this any longer? You know what I mean? Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I think people should hang on though. Yeah, you're absolutely right. But I will say this, like what an incredible innings, what an incredibly like rich life. A real Don Bradman of an innings, you know what I mean? You're not wrong. That's true. His average was 99.
Starting point is 00:06:37 That's what you meant, I assume. Yeah. And he was on the Golden Girls. Just like ahead of time. He's the sassiest one. Ahead of her time. Look, Don Bradman, they would always say. They'd always say that. Ahead of her time in like just in every era she was in, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:52 Seemed to be always at the forefront of comedy and entertainment. Yeah. And just by all accounts an incredible person. Everybody that met her never got cancelled. Incredible effort. It's true, yeah. It's sad to see somebody even do that these days. Yeah, right. Odds are stacked. It's true, yeah. How does somebody even do that these days? Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:07:06 Odds are stacked against you getting cancelled, honestly. That's it. So, look, to be honest, we didn't get a lot of Betty White in Australia. It was more kind of in the last ten years that I became familiar with her work. We did get the Golden Girls. We did, yeah, but I didn't watch a lot of it. Did you watch a lot of it? Not really, no.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So there you go. We were too busy watching Keeping Up Appearances, which is the British Golden Girls, except it's not funny and I hated it. Right. Yeah. I mean, in that era, I was probably busy watching the late 80s, early 90s, like low-budget superhero show Superforce. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:07:35 As I previously mentioned, I think. Which is the Golden Girls of Superforce. I was going to say, we all had our own Golden Girls. Yeah, mine was Superforce. Yeah, but, you know, what did it do? Patrick McNee was in it. He was. He was a force. Yeah, but, you know, what did he do? Patrick McNay was in it. He was. He was a computer.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Enduring legacy, you know, gone but not forgotten, that is for sure. And here's something else that is not forgotten, Mason. Spite, revenge. We're doing Fast and Furious news. Spite, revenge or marketing ploy? We'll talk about it. So I might actually start with this because- An apology.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Apology, yeah. To both men. So basically a few months back, Vin Diesel issued a public plea for The Rock to reappear in the Fast and Furious finale. I'll stop you there. It was a condescending public plea. Well, I figured I'd read it just to get everybody back to speed.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We covered it at the time. People are probably familiar, but just in case, he wrote on Instagram in a picture which was Photoshopped that he looked bigger than The Rock, which was very strange, like poorly Photoshopped as well. Anyway. I think I made this joke at the time probably in a Hobbit house, you know, with the weird geometry.
Starting point is 00:08:39 So he looks bigger. Absolutely. My little brother, Dwayne. Awful. Yuck. Yuck. The time has come. The world awaits the finale of Fast 10. As you know, my children refer to you as Uncle Dwayne in my house. There is not a holiday that goes by that they and you don't send well wishes, but the time has come. Legacy awaits. I told you years ago that I was going to fulfill my promise to Pablo,
Starting point is 00:09:01 Paul Walker. I swore that we would reach and manifest the best Fast and Furious finale. That is 10. Do you think that's what happened though? Do you think he like pledged an oath to Paul Walker? I don't know. Anyway, I said this. He stood at his drawing room window and he was like, Paul Walker, I know you're up there.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Pablo. Pablo, Pablo, little brother Pablo, if you're out there, I swear to make the best Fast and Furious movie ever, and if you approve, give me a sign, and then just like a Subaru WRX just crashed through his window, a la Batman, and he's like, yes, the true sign. I say this out of love, but you must show up. Do not leave the franchise idle.
Starting point is 00:09:45 You have a very important role to play. Hobbs can't be played by no other. I hope that you rise to the occasion and fulfill your destiny. It's destiny. It is. Well, maybe not. So he issued a response via a CNN interview, The Rock, just recently. And here's what he said.
Starting point is 00:10:02 This is what he's saying. Listen up, Wolf Blitzer, if in fact you still work here. Pass this along to Vin. I was very surprised by Vin's recent post. This past June, when Vin and I actually connected, not over social media, I told him directly and privately that I would not be returning to the franchise. I was firm yet cordial with my words.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Cordial? I think either works. Probably depends where you're from. And said that I would always be supportive of the cast. I'll be a glass of cordial with my words. Cordial? I think either works. Probably depends where you're from. And said that I would always be supportive of the cast. I'll be a glass of cordial here. Sure. I'll be one of those big drums of cordial you get at a football game, like a school football game.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Those are bad, though. It's kind of orange, but it's watered down. Those are bad. Yeah, if you have enough of it, you're fine. I like it. All right. I never liked it. Anyway, he's a big drum of cordial.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah. And I said I would always be supportive of the cast and always root for the franchise to be successful, but that there was no chance I would return. I privately spoke with my partners at Universal as well, all of whom were very supportive. All the monsters. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:57 The mummy said. Yeah, good for you, man. Stand your ground. Were very supportive as they understood the problem. Vin's recent public post. I forgot he was in The Scorpion King. He was, wasn't he? He would have friends at Universal. Yeah, man. Stand your ground. Were very supportive as they understood the problem. Vin's recent public post. I forgot he was in the Scorpion King. He was, wasn't he? He would have friends at Universal.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah, totally. All the monsters. Vin's recent public post was an example of his manipulation. I don't like that he brought up his children in the post as well as Paul Walker's death. Leave them out of it. We had spoken months ago about this and came to a clear understanding. My goal was all along to end my amazing journey with the incredible Fast and Furious franchise
Starting point is 00:11:28 with gratitude and grace. It's unfortunate this public dialogue has muddled these waters. Regardless, I'm confident in the Fast universe and its ability to consistently deliver to the audience. And I truly wish my former co-stars and crew members the best of luck and success in the next chapter. That is, that is, I was going to say extraordinarily elegant. I don't mean for The Rock.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I just mean this feels like it's a written statement or is it part of an interview? It says it's part of an interview, but I guess they could have said the interview over and they could have tweaked it as often. There's no audio of this. But I can sort of imagine just The Rock turning to camera and just spilling all of that out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And everybody's like, wow. Did you rehearse this? And his eagles flying out. Did you rehearse this? I did actually, yes. Yes, that's right. Extensively. Now people have said.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Who is saying things? The scuttlebutt on the internet. My friend Scuttlebutt. You know him? Yeah. Okay. What's his butt saying? What's his scuttling butt saying?
Starting point is 00:12:22 His scuttling butt, James, is saying that he thinks that this is all part of a marketing ploy that will eventually result in The Rock appearing in the past ten. But hearing this, it seems a little bit. Well, the fact that he was like, you brought up your children, you brought up Paul Walker's death. Like if this was a marketing ploy. It would be a bit more vague, I think.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah, and I think also, look, there's a chance that maybe he'll come back regardless. Yeah, right. That they can sort this out. But this, and look. With money. With money, exactly. And everything's marketing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Like I can't tell what leaks are marketing and what aren't at this point. And we also don't know a future rock movie is going to bomb. Because maybe some of them do. And then, I mean, obviously, Red Notice, 200,000 billion hours watched. So Rock movie is going to bomb because maybe some of them do. And then, I mean, obviously Red Notice, 200,000 billion hours watched. So that's not going to bomb. But maybe the next couple of things will and he's like, well, I've got to get back into a proven winner. So maybe he will be impressed.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I bought a PlayStation VR this week just to watch Red Notice. Oh, I thought that was going to be a quote from The Rock. Like some of my movies haven't done well and I've just bought a PlayStation VR headset, so I've got to pay for that somehow, so I'll be in Fast and the Furious 10. But you bought a Fast and Furious. No, I didn't really buy one. You didn't really buy one, okay. Yeah, but I don't think this is because of those two things.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah, as you were saying that, I'm like it would be vague. It would be like, well, I'm not going to do it unless Vin Diesel steps up and, you know, he proves that he's a good role model for the kids or something like that. And then Vin Diesel would go to a hospital of sick kids or something like that and do wheelies. Sure. You know?
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I don't know. Ride his unicycle. He does that? Yeah. He probably did some cloud school, I reckon. I bet he did, yeah. He probably did it all.
Starting point is 00:14:05 So, look, yeah, again, I wouldn't be surprised if he does turn up. Look, I think if what The Rock is saying and that Vin Diesel did, they had that discussion and he still posted it, that's a really shitty thing to do. Yeah, it is. But then again, is that true? We don't know. We don't have all the information.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Maybe their marketing teams have said, you know what? Viciousness is what. You mentioned the death of Paul Walker. You mentioned that man's children. You put it in there. People love that stuff. And then when he comes in and is in the movie, everybody's going to cheer.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Paul Walker. Yeah. They're going to put him in it, right? Yeah, I think so. He showed up at the end of the barbecue of the last one, didn't he? Yeah, he did. His car pulled up. His WOX kept crashing through the window. the barbecue of the last one, didn't he? His car pulled up. His WX kept
Starting point is 00:14:45 crashing through the window. That's right. Paul Walker, come and crash. These hot dogs need some seasoning. You see the tires smash onto the barbecue. He's 100% going to be in it. I would bet my balls on it. James has bet his balls on it.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Ding, ding. Ding, ding. Trailer's Ahoy, Mason. So soon after, James bets his balls on it. Ding, ding. Ding, ding. Trailer's Ahoy, Mason. So soon after James bets his balls on it. The new segments for 2022, they're lit as the kids call it. Not cringe. Not cringe. They're lit. They're lit and cool.
Starting point is 00:15:18 The Batman got a trailer, the Bat and the Cat trailer. Yeah. Look, there's a bit of new footage in what we see and this and that. And I remember watching it and I watch it again before this podcast because I'm like there's a thing in there that I wanted to bring up specifically. And what is it? And I couldn't quite recall what it was and then I got to it. He's using the Batman 89 grappling hook gun.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Oh, the very same? It's pretty close. That's interesting. It's the closest I've seen in a while. We are going to talk about some Batman 89 in a bit. I also saw an interesting interview from Matt Reeves. It was on CNN. I don't know whether he rehearsed it or said it.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Listen up, Wolf. Let's say he said it. If you still work here. The Rock said you might, and I wasn't sure. And I don't know who I'm directing this at. But here we go. You said one of the... You were in one of the Mission Impossible movies.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I think it was eight. But you were just Simon Pegg in a mask, I think. Potentially. I saw, actually, I think I read this on comicbookmovie.com. I don't know whether it was via them, but that's where I read it, that Matt Reeves, the director, said one of his influences for this movie was Christine, like, you know, that car coming through the fire.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah, into a barbecue. Yeah, just crashing into a barbecue. Yeah, that was what they took. Just a relentless kind of, yeah, okay, I can see that. And we've seen in the previous trailer, you know, there's that moment where the penguin thinks he's gotten away with it all and then he gets his car destroyed by the Batmobile. By the Batmobile.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And he's massively injured it seems. He seems like he's massively injured. What I love about this is that it's coming out March 4th, which is so soon. I just love that. Pretty just, I love that. Pretty good, right? Yeah. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:16:48 The other thing is it's, unless there's reshoots. That's true. I think it's done. Because it was supposed to be out July, last July, I think, from memory. Anyways, there's also going to be a 45-day theatrical window at this point. I see. But I think that could extend if it does well. Does well.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It probably will. Yeah. Because it's Batman. Sorry, who? Because it's Batman. Batman. Batman. Oh, I've heard of Batman.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Batman. Oh, Batman. Batman. That's Robert Pattinson's like, yeah, I'm going to commit to the exercise regime. I'm going to commit to, you know, the character and the intensity and all that sort of stuff and all the, you know. But I am going to call him Batman. I'm Batman.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I'm Batman. And you have to call me Batman. Or you have to rename the movie. Batman. Oh, God. It really is the start of the year, Mason. Yep. No more Matrix.
Starting point is 00:17:47 How about this? Excuse me? You heard me. I did, yeah. This is why I collided. James McTeague, who was a producer on this, he also directed Beef Vendetta. He worked on a lot of the early Matrix stuff as well. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:57 He directed Beef Vendetta. He did. I guess that's always a movie that I've thought about and gone. I've never considered anyone directing that movie. No, he directed it. It just existed. I think the Wachowski's name, like, is on it. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah, so he's a second assistant director and whatever, and he's worked on a bunch of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's done a lot of good stuff. But he said, look, for us, I think at the moment, it's just the movie you've seen. We've got no prequel in mind. We've got no sequel in mind.
Starting point is 00:18:24 We've got no further trilogy. Oh. I i think maybe there's a sidequel in mind i think the adventures of pinball man and that weird flying stingray guy they're teaming up they're teaming up ratchet and clank style or that other guy who's who's who was some who was some video game team up guys for uh jack and daxter jack and daxter it's probably like a Jack and Daxter kind of situation. Sully and Nathan Drake. Those two guys. Those two. Mark Wahlberg, Tom Holland, Thomas Holland.
Starting point is 00:18:51 So, look, I think if this had have done well, this conversation would be different. Yep. Received well. Certainly our conversation would be different. Definitely. So, look, I think for now, yeah, it's probably dead, but I wouldn't say it's dead forever.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Oh, no. Because it's an IP that already exists. Yeah. So they but I wouldn't say it's dead forever. Oh, no? Because it's an IP that already exists. So they're never going to let it go by the wayside, are they? Apparently that was true, that line in it about how, like, they're going to do it with or without you, that was very much true. I think because there was going to be, they were talking about doing like a Michael B. Jordan prequel a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Do you remember that? He was going to be Morpheus. Yeah. And that was probably before the Wachowskis, or one of them ended up doing it. Because I know Keanu Reeves is like, I'm not going to do it without the Wachowskis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like that's probably.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Would you do it with one Wachowski? Yeah, I guess I would. Yeah, okay, sure. Whatever, whatever, whatever. Can I keep my John Wick hair? Yes. So there we go. Not surprised at all.
Starting point is 00:19:41 But again. I'll tell you what, I have been enjoying the Matrix discourse. Oh my God, there's so much discourse. There's a lot of discourse. And, again, I'm wondering if I will, you know, in some time hence be like, oh, yeah, there's more depth to that than I thought. I mean, there was. Yeah. You know.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Or will I appreciate it more, I guess. The take that I cannot stomach is that it's intentionally terrible. Because, first of all, I don't think it is terrible. I think there is. We talked about it last week. But, like, why would you do that? Yeah. Like, why would, I don't think it is terrible. I think there is, we talked about it last week. But, like, why would you do that? Yeah. Like, why would you make an intentionally terrible movie?
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah. I can understand people saying Lana has moved away from, like, highly choreographed action sequences. Yeah, okay, I can see that. And so, that's not the important thing anymore. But here's the thought that I had, James. Yeah. I also think about things. There's no spoilers for The Matrix in this, I don't think. But the thought that I had, James. Yeah. I also think about things. There's no spoilers for The Matrix in this, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But the idea that, like, when the Wachowskis made the original trilogy, they didn't think to themselves, okay, we've got some good ideas for fight sequences, let's do all the choreography ourselves and just tell it to the actors on the day. They went, okay, let's get the best of the best out there and we'll bring them in and we'll give the actors the time to learn everything and train up and all that sort of stuff because they're like, we trust this.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And my feeling was with this new one, this is just a review of The Matrix again, if the point of this one wasn't the action but was in fact a love story or a satire or something like that, my question would be or my thought would be why don't you get in people who are really good at writing that? Wow. Why wouldn't you? Yeah. Like get Phoebe Waller-Bridge or whoever.
Starting point is 00:21:12 We'll do it. We know human emotions, don't we? Yeah, we could do it. We know a semblance of human emotions. What's your name? My name's Neo. I feel a strong connection. So you're saying two cis middle class white men should write the new Matrix movie?
Starting point is 00:21:29 That's what I'm saying. Don't you think that's what people want? Yeah, you're absolutely right. I think that's what some people want. If the idea was like this is going to be a satire and it's really going to hit hard, like they should have got like, you know, women writers and black writers and gay writers and trans writers, comedy writers, and be like all the Hollywood stuff and, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:47 the Matrix and expectations around otherness in this and franchises and sequels and all that just go really hard. Because, you know, I would have loved to have come out of The Matrix and gone, man, this movie, like as a satire, this really crushed it. Yeah. It was really. That'd be nice. Yeah, that'd be nice.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Well, that's what I'm saying. They should have brought in the best and not the guy who wrote Cloud Atlas, which is what they did. I guess they're friends. I don't know. They're probably friends. It's David Mitchell and I'm like, oh, but not that David Mitchell. But not that David Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:22:18 They should have got the other David Mitchell. They should have got two David Mitchells. David Mitchells. David's Mitchells. They should have got two David's Mitchell. Anyway, that's. David's Mitchell's. They should have got two David's Mitchell's. Anyway, that's this next one. I really like the idea of that. I think that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:32 But I think it would also be a hard thing to let go of. Oh, yeah, definitely, yeah. And if you work with these, because the three writers, Wolano Wachowski, this author of Cloud Atlas, the original novel, and a guy from Sense8, and I'm like. Sense8's good, isn't it? People like it. People like it.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And I'm like, well, why wouldn't you work with those people if you've had success before and et cetera? But I'm just like, you should have brought in a writer for a movie. We could have done it. Yeah. Anyway, that's my thought. That and no action. But again, it's like it is the, again,
Starting point is 00:22:58 this is just a review of The Matrix again. But, you know, that's also probably a movie they never could have made. Like if they went, you know, it's a satire and there's no action in it. never could have made like if they went you know it's a satire and there's no action in it yeah and we're making fun of you openly yeah warner brothers will be like nah yeah we won't give you any money for that that's it i should have just made it like space jam new space jam also which kind of was important here's another thought i had here's another i'm jams i'm really good at thoughts that no one would ever make in a billion years how about this? Yep.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Lana Wachowski announces that she's making a movie. Yep. And it's just like a little kind of small budget indie movie and it's got Keanu Reeves and Carrie Ann Moss in it and people are like, oh, it's been nice to see those two together and they're like, you know, one's a video game designer and life is dragging him down and one's a suburban mom and blah, blah, blah. And then you go into the cinema and you're like, is this Matrix?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah. Do you think they'd be able to hide that though? Maybe. Yeah. You know. Depends how low key they kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, the Warner Brothers had never given money to that.
Starting point is 00:23:54 They did give them $200 million for this though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's an interesting amount of money. Yeah. Speaking of big money, Spider-Man No Way Home is Sony's biggest movie ever, turns out. Like ever, ever. Yeah, ever, ever.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Most profitable and so on. But off the back of that, Variety have learned that Tom Holland is going to earn a low eight figures for his next big project. Now that's tens of millions. Okay. Yeah. Anywhere between like 10 and 20. For his next project.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Even if it's Chaos Walking 2. No, no, if it's a big thing. So if it's a small and ready project, it'd be like between like one and four. And he gets apparently about one million a movie now currently. He gets four million. He apparently got four million for this later Spider-Man. Here's a question for you.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yes. Do you think that he's an actor that deserves that kind of money? I mean, nobody deserves that amount of money. But I think as Spider-Man. That's how we're going into 2022. Nobody deserves this amount of money. No, but I think as Spider-Man. That's how we're going into 2022. Nobody deserves this amount of money. No, but I think as Spider-Man, yes, he does because he is Spider-Man and that franchise now largely rests on his shoulders.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Not entirely. What's interesting though. But maybe a newer thing or a different thing, maybe not necessarily. Look, without spoiling Spider-Man No Way Home, because I think we're still in the don't spoil Spider-Man No Way Home zone. Yeah. I wonder, like, is his new salary, is that derived from the fact
Starting point is 00:25:09 that this particular movie did so well? I think it's a number of things. And if yes, also the thing about that movie is I think a lot of people went with the expectation that certain things were going to happen or certain people were going to be in that movie. Yeah. So is that entirely, like I think a lot of people's favourite parts of that last movie didn't have all that much to do with Tom Holland necessarily.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Look, and I don't think we probably talked about this enough in the review, but I thought he was very good in it. Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, there's some good real – in a superhero movie, there's some good real emotion in there. I guess like if that had have gone to Asa Butterfield, whatever his name is, or somebody, like a different actor, one of the other ones who were up for it.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Asa Butterfield. Yeah, he's a real guy or something like that. He's in, like, that sex education show or something. Oh, yeah, okay. Is that his name? You're thinking of Gillian Anderson, season one. I am. It is Asa Butterfield, real person.
Starting point is 00:26:02 So if that had gone to, like, him, right? Yeah. Do you think this movie would have made less money with somebody else? I mean, unless they were awful and they did an awful real-life thing. I think the numbers probably would have been about the same. And then again, that's not to diminish his work because I think he's a very good Spider-Man. But anyway, if you can get $10 million.
Starting point is 00:26:21 A very good man. Yes, by all accounts. Yeah, if you can get $10 million, you should. You should absolutely. You know, in Hollywood. And if you feel like giving some of it to us, you should do that. You should give some of it to us. I think that's an open invitation.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Any celebrities out there who are making eight figures and happen to listen to this, we will take some of that money if you want to give it to us. We'd love that. Because I think it's interesting that there are. If you don't want it, we'll take some of it. That's right. This is a threat. 2022, yeah. Because I think it's interesting that there are. If you don't want it, we'll take some of it. That's right. This is a threat.
Starting point is 00:26:45 2022, we're doing threats now. I think it's interesting because, you know, there are a number of Marvel actors who, you know, have gone on to do other properties that have not been as successful. And it's maybe like their payday that they get within that universe shouldn't equate necessarily to things outside of it. What you're saying is that if you're in a Marvel movie, you should get paid in Marvel script like Marvel bucks.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Which you can only spend at Disneyland. You can only spend at Disneyland. You can stay at their resorts. That's right, yeah. Yeah. And you can cut any line you want. Yeah, but I think, you know, the idea of a movie star is almost entirely dead.
Starting point is 00:27:21 You know, a single person cannot bring in a crowd necessarily anymore, but an idea or a concept or a property combined with a person can. That's like a script for a Batman movie. I think Robert Pattinson is probably worth like $10 million a movie, I'd say at this point. You know what I mean? And there are others that I think, like I think Brie Larson is probably worth $10 million.
Starting point is 00:27:44 These are the indie stuff she's done before and she's like proven herself so there's people who maybe don't agree with that because a lot of people i don't know if you know this mason they're upset at brie larson still probably yeah yeah i can i can understand that yeah anyways we did that ghostbusters review she's not in it but i bet there was a comment oh speaking of um they put that 2016 thing back in the box set oh did they okay right apparently so there's taped it to the side there's the ghost but maybe she's not worth 10 million of they put that 2016 thing back in the box set. Oh, did they? Okay, right. Apparently. Just taped it to the side. There's the ghost box.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Maybe she's not worth $10 million. Because even you look at like Robert Downey Jr., like outside of Iron Man, he does that weird animal movie. It bombs. It costs $200 million. He did that Manimal remake. He did Manimal. Do you know, like is he worth that outside of Iron Man, you know? Great question.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Like maybe for a Sherlock Holmes he is, but maybe not for a newer thing. Like is Chris Pratt worth that for, like he's a pretty big draw, but then again he's in like big properties, like he's in Jurassic World and whatever. Yeah, well, exactly. Like I would have said going off the MCU and like previously, you know, he was in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and et cetera. And then I'm like, oh, it's great to see Robert Downey Jr.
Starting point is 00:28:48 in these movies. Post MCU I would have been like, I'll see Robert Downey Jr. in anything, but I didn't see Doolittle. Exactly. And that's the only thing he's done maybe. For me it's a combination of, you know, the actor and the genre they're in or the role. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:29:04 But, I mean, I feel like for a lot of sort of post-MCU people, the roles generally are very good in the sense that they don't need the money. Yes. They don't need the money and also I think a lot of people want to break out of whatever, you know, type casting they've been put into. So, like, Chris Evans, he doesn't need the money, so maybe he'll take a pay cut. But he did Knives Out where he's like the polar opposite to Steve Rogers.
Starting point is 00:29:34 He did that Apple TV crime show where he's – Defending Jacob. Yeah, it was very good. Yeah, yeah. And probably something else. He's probably done another movie. Probably done at least one more movie. Yeah. He cameos in his friends' movies I think as well.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Oh, that's what he's doing all the time. That's what he's been doing at the moment. I've actually lined up Mason because you're not going to be able to hear this. Because we're doing, it's a new segment of the show. Oh. I've decided to, it's for the new year. It's called Grain of Salt. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And then off the back of that. Yes. Are you doing, is it a little sprinkling sound or something? There we go. It's the Grain of Salt. Oh, okay. I think it was like an ASMR thing because the guy was like shaking it at the start. I'm like, I don't want you to shake it.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I want you to do the thing. Anyway, he did it. It's done. Can we think of a different ASMR thing? Like maybe it should be called rumors and somebody wetly slapping their lips together. I don't like that. I don't like eating sounds. I'm not against ASMR, but I do not like that wet mouth thing.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I do not like it. So not wet mouth rumours. Sure. Let's call it wet mouth rumours. All right. Lip smacking rumours. Oh, that's good. Yes, please.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Anyways. The new segments are coming thick and fast. There's this, the thing we said earlier about your balls, whatever it was, James Betts' balls. Betts' balls on a thing? Yeah. This is great. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:46 What happens in lip-smacking rumours? So basically it's a rumour, an unsubstantiated rumour that is of interest. I feel like I should put these things in here because I talked about this last week where people were like, that's a rumour or whatever. Yeah, a lot of this is rumours. A lot of this is just like, isn't this interesting? So, you know, most people, to be fair, most people just listen and just don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Remember the other week we were like, remember that Fleetwood Mac album that's got landslides on it? People were like, oh, that's just rumours. Yeah, we know. We know that it is. It's their best album. It's one of the best albums ever made. It might just be. Anyways, this is why... I hope landslides is on that. Is it? I think it is.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I'm fairly confident. Would you bet your balls on it? No. No. It might be like the one mega hit-selling single that is not on. is it? I think it is you're going to sound like a right I'm fairly confident would you bet your balls on it? no no it might be like the one the one like mega hit selling single that is not on not on there not on rumors
Starting point is 00:31:30 yeah well I don't know the chain is on there of course it is this is via our Twitter user my time to shine hello says I don't usually tweet about DC stuff but I have a friend
Starting point is 00:31:41 who has just seen The Flash the upcoming Flash movie it's finished-ish probably. And I guess this is also a spoiler alert so you can jump ahead to the time codes. And the movie will erase every movie Snyder has done. Man of Steel, Batman v Superman and Justice League never happened now. Erased from continuity.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Affleck and Cavill are both gone. Supergirl, now the main soups of Earth. Keaton is Batman and Batgirl will become the new Batman after her film. Yeah, you know what? I didn't see this particular tweet, but I think I did see something on Twitter if we're talking lip smack and rumours. And it was some screenshots apparently translated from another language into English.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Yeah. It's another language? I mean, look, let's just go with it. Okay. And it was to the effect of it. It was some plot summary that had been released in another country. Okay. For a streaming service or something like that.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And it had been translated in. And it was that. It was like Supergirl will be the new, you know, Superman style character in this universe. And there was also something about the Flash goes back in time and prevents Steveve trevor from being killed i think so he's alive again so he's alive again so wonder woman 84 doesn't happen as well i was like yeah but i mean good but uh it's interesting that after saying you know okay
Starting point is 00:33:02 well these movies are just going to stand on their own we're going to have have a Batman movie or a Superman movie or a Flash movie or what have you, and they're not necessarily interconnected. They're just movies for you to enjoy if you want to see these characters. It's very interesting then that this rumor seems to be saying, no, we are going to go into the continuity of these previous movies and take it out of continuity in story. I think that's sort of fascinating and probably unnecessary, but I wonder if that's a result of maybe like No Way Home.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah, I mean. Maybe it's too close. It might be too close. Maybe the buzz in that industry was like, No Way Home's going to blow people's balls off. I've got a few thoughts on this. First of all, I don't think Affleck was coming back after this, regardless.
Starting point is 00:33:42 So I think they had to do something. Also, it seems like they don't like Henry Cavill. Oh, this person here, yeah. No, no, not this person. Warner Brothers. They're not interested in making movies with him as Superman anymore. Interesting. But do you think that's a Henry Cavill thing
Starting point is 00:33:56 or do you think that is a... I think it's a Superman. I think it's his Superman specifically. Right. But again, we've discussed this to death, but I think it is a case of we don't know what to do with Superman. I think they've also crunched the numbers on these DC movies, specifically the Snyder trilogy,
Starting point is 00:34:14 and they've probably thought we can get more people into theatres if we establish a new continuity and bring in a new Batman, or an old Batman in this case, and a new Superman figure, as opposed to bringing back these old characters of movies which like there is a very strong and vocal fandom. Yes. But like I don't think any of my friends could name who Batman or Superman is at the moment.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Like they could probably do like most of the Marvel characters. Oh, as in who the actor is? Yeah. Yeah, probably. And that's not a slight on Henry Cavill because I like his. But they know Robert Downey Jr. Like they know Actor Is. Yeah. Yeah, probably. And that's not a slight on Henry Cavill because I like his. But they know Robert Downey Jr. Like they know Chris Evans. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But the thing is also this isn't a complete erasing of the Snyder stuff because Aquaman is his invention. Well, that version. Oh, yeah. Wonder Woman's from his film. Like even like Shazam, that movie is an extension of the DCEU. That's true. It's got a bunch of references.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Superman's in that movie. Superman's in it, yeah. So I don't know. It doesn't seem like. Have you seen that tweet? I think it was by the director of Shazam. He put it up. And it was that clip from the end of Shazam where Superman sits down
Starting point is 00:35:16 and you obviously don't see his face. But then his effects team or whatever, it pans up and Superman just has an extraordinarily long neck. It just goes forever. Yeah, because David F. Sandberg, he's done a lot of like, he's like a special effects dude as well. He does YouTube short films and stuff. He still does them.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And the thing is as well, like the idea of that Keaton's the new Batman and Batgirl is going to become the new Batman and Supergirl is the new Superman of Earth. The other thing is there is a Batman, another Batman. It's Robert Pattinson. Oh. And there is another Superman. That's Robert Batman.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Robert Batman. Like J.J. Abrams is currently working on, with Ta-Nehisi Coates, another Superman. That's true. So they will still exist. Pattinson, it seems, is in his own universe, but we don't know what's happening with the new Superman at this point. But I think that's – so I don't think it's all gone,
Starting point is 00:36:04 but anybody who's a Snyder fan is not going to like this. I wonder if they're establishing because like, you know, as we've mentioned in, you know, often the big two comic book universes, they will do a sort of a – like a limited series or they'll do an event that is set slightly into the future. Like DC did one recently called Future State. Yeah. And sometimes they'll go, you know, this is actually,
Starting point is 00:36:26 this is definitely going to happen. We're actually going to move this universe forward a bit and then they just don't. Yeah. It's actually just a potential future. Don't worry about it. Superman and Batman here, it's fine. Everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Everything's fine. Don't worry about it. Don't panic. Keep buying books. But they're waving. It's fine. They're waving at you. They're waving at you specifically.
Starting point is 00:36:42 But I wonder if maybe they're going with, you know, people responded well to, you know, the Snyder Nightmare universe, which is a potential future. Maybe this is like, I mean, this could very well be the DCEU, but, you know, 20 years down the line. Yeah. And you could go, okay, well that, and you could even say that's why Batman is old now because it's the future of that universe and that's why Superman went into space
Starting point is 00:37:07 like he often does in these future scenarios. Who's going to protect the universe? Well, Supergirl's here. Whatever, yeah. So maybe that's it. Maybe it's a. You might be right. Because then you can make it weird and dark but not in a Snyder way
Starting point is 00:37:20 if you don't want to. Yeah, absolutely. It's interesting. I had another thing to say and I can't think of it because you blew it out of my brain. Because with the weird neck thing. With your nonsense. Now you're just thinking of Superman with a super long neck. Oh, yeah, the other thing is.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Go on. None of this is definitive in the long term. Yes. I mean, we know that recently. Again, no spoilers for No Way Home, but there are some villains and potentially others who come back. Yes. Universes that are dead are brought back into existence.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yes. So I think even if this is the erasing of these characters, give it a few years and we'll just see. Yeah, we'll just see, won't we? Like imagine in five, ten years' time there's the new Superman that J.J. Abrams is doing, there's Supergirl, and then they bring back Cavill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And then they do Brandon Routh as whatever. It's the Chris Reeve, his version as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I think the new thing, the lesson that is probably learned from No Way Home is like I'll just bring back everyone. Yeah. That's what people want to see. And that's not why that movie is good.
Starting point is 00:38:19 No. It's partially why it's good. Yeah. But again, one of the reason I think that one works well is because that is, it is a novel thing that hasn't been done before in a lot of ways. And if they just, and, and this has been said on Twitter as well recently,
Starting point is 00:38:34 that might be kind of a dangerous precedent of like, Oh, imagine if, uh, I think I saw one that was like, Oh, imagine if we see Chris Evans and he comes back in the MCU, but then he's actually human torch.
Starting point is 00:38:42 It's like, I mean, I guess, but like the novelty will wear off fairly quickly, I think. in the MCU but then he's actually Human Torch. It's like, I mean, I guess. But like, the novelty will wear off fairly quickly, I think. But if too many wheels get set in motion right now, maybe that's all we get for five years.
Starting point is 00:38:53 But what do we know from Hollywood? They always learn the worst lesson. They learn the worst lesson. Yes. So yeah, there you go. I would just, if it was me, I'd just make a good movie. Yeah, I reckon I would too, actually. Is that what you would do? Yeah, but mine would be slightly better than yours and slightly under budget. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah, yeah. So even if I put in a little bit more effort, at the end of the day your raw talent would drop. And my financial acumen, the two things. Put them up against each other at the box office, they'd be like, these are pretty the same, but I'd still have less money on that one. Can't fight that.
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Starting point is 00:40:47 I'm like, okay, fuck you. Look, obviously I didn't record it the second that. You should update it though. I should update it. You know what? My problem is I didn't say that up top. That's true. I think I did say it.
Starting point is 00:40:57 You almost certainly did. Anyways. Yeah. Numbers are subject to change. Disagree. Anyways, we're going through the best and worst of 2021. We're giving out a series of awards. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And thank you to everybody out there who listens to this episode every year and pretends it has some relevance to anything. It means so much to us. It means a lot to us. To know that you, I was going to say not entertain, yeah, you entertain the idea that, you know. You're humitous. You're humitous, thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:23 That's the word. So, yeah, 3,000 people have voted. Is it exactly 3,000? Apparently. That's the idea that, you know. You're humidus. You're humidus. Thank you. That's the word. So, yeah, 3,000 people have voted. Is it exactly 3,000? Apparently. That's the number that's right here. Well, let me tell you, I love all them, 3,000. Me too.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Thanks, Mason. That's really good. So why don't we kick things off with the best Marvel series of the year? We're going to have a bit of a discussion, a bit of a back and forth. Not all of these I've thoroughly thought about. Sure. Some you've not thought about at all. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, I'm just going to kind of feel my way through for this. This first one I've got a pretty good idea on.
Starting point is 00:41:51 But the best Marvel series of the year. We've got Falcon and the Winter Soldier. We've got Hawkeye. We've got Loki. We've got MODOK. We've got WandaVision. We've got What If. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:00 For me, it would be a tie between – not a tie. My favorites were Loki. For me, it would be a tie between, not a tie. My favourites were Loki. For me, it would be a tie between Falcon and Winter Soldier. It would be between Loki and WandaVision. Interesting. And I think Loki squeaks ahead because I enjoyed the way that Loki wrapped up, like WandaVision was flying in the sky and shooting stuff. Can I ask you this question? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Is this because, I mean, what is interesting about the two that you've mentioned, and I was going to mention these two specifically, is that they both have wider ramifications for the Marvel Universe going forward. I don't think it's just that. I think it, I mean, that is. But maybe that's why they are better. Yeah, because you can.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Maybe more care or like, you know, maybe they seem more memorable or more exciting or what have you because they put more attention on it because they knew they would have larger ramifications. Like I enjoyed Falcon and Winter Soldier a lot. I enjoyed Hawkeye a lot. I didn't not enjoy any of those. Yeah, same, some of MODOK. But like Falcon and Winter Soldier and Hawkeye,
Starting point is 00:42:58 they feel like kind of like smaller standalone movies and they didn't like, and they had ramifications, but they're not really going to move the needle in terms of like smaller standalone movies and they didn't like and they had ramifications but they're not really going to move the needle in terms of like what happens in the next phase of the Marvel Universe because at the end of Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Sam Wilson became Captain America which is, you know, important but also he was like, and I'm going to hold all you politicians to account and I'm like, what politicians?
Starting point is 00:43:21 Who's the president? It doesn't matter. We never see them. He was the president. There was a president.. We never see them. He was the president. There was a president. Sometimes a guy gets kidnapped and he was the president. Sometimes the president, they haven't done the president as a Skrull yet.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Sometimes I think like maybe in some, maybe once Obama was president in some of these movies. Oh, maybe. I can't tell. I don't know. Side note, did you watch the episode of Some More News on YouTube? The Marvel one, I did, yeah. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:43:44 If people haven't seen it, satirical news program Some More News over on YouTube did an episode where they ran the news as if it were in the Marvel Universe. It goes for like an hour or something. It's really good. It's super funny. It is. It's very good.
Starting point is 00:43:58 They do good work over there. From the perspective of normal people who have absolutely no idea what's going on in the Marvel Universe, why would you? That's because I don't tell you anything. Yeah. I reckon for me, oh, gosh. I reckon for me Oh gosh. I think for me it's Loki. Yeah for me I think it's Loki as well. And you know it's
Starting point is 00:44:12 established or re-established the multiverse in the Marvel Universe. Great scene Tom Hiddleston. There's a crocodile in it. There is a crocodile in it. Or an alligator. Big, this is what I want from like, to me what happens, the stuff that happened in Loki is what i want from like the to me what happens the stuff that happened in loki is what makes marvel marvel yeah on a cosmic level just big silly that's what i was gonna say
Starting point is 00:44:31 i love big silly stuff yeah just a big cloud monster and at the end of time who eats all of time or something that's fun pretty good but that but at the same time like on for me honorable mention hawkeye because i just had a good fun christmas time i thought i think i think that one started out slow. Yeah. And you shouldn't have to say this about a TV series, but I think maybe the first two episodes maybe dragged. Again, I think Hawkeye to me would have been better if they went six episodes.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Here they all are in one go. You could have just churned through them and gone. That particular series, because it went week to week, kind of lost momentum a little bit from time to time. We didn't even mention What If. And, again, that's... I mean, that has probably wider implications as well. That does have wider implications.
Starting point is 00:45:12 That's hit and miss for me. Yeah, and I feel like that sort of spun off from Loki, the invention of the multiverse, then we do that. But, again, the animation I thought was great, a lot of fun. Some of those episodes probably unnecessary. Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, a lot of them are in their own self-contained, et cetera, and whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:28 That's true. And what did the listeners say? Well, Loki came in at 43%, followed by WandaVision at 25%, then Hawkeye 22%, then What If 5.2%, and then Falcon Winter Soldier at 4.7%. And I guess after that we had MODOK. So, yeah, interesting stuff. Falcon and Winter Soldier, still good fun.
Starting point is 00:45:45 I agree. But I think it lost some momentum just because it came after WandaVision and there wasn't a lot of, you know, big surprises to be had in it and it was kind of mundane. Yeah. It was nice to see them team up, you know? I agree. Next up we've got Best Marvel Property and this is overall.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yeah, right. So to go through the list, I think I put this one in because I'm an idiot. There's a bit of overlap here. We've got WandaVision, Falcon, Winter Soldier, Black Widow, Loki, Shang-Chi and Legend of the Ten Rings, The Eternals, Hawkeye, Spider-Man, No Way Home. And the result was the number one at 74% was Spider-Man. Spider-Man, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Then Shang-Chi at 11%, and then Loki, and then it's just like everything else. Look, I made some hay with regards making fun of Spider-Man No Way Home. Sure. And I was critical of it because that's what I love to do. Yep. But I reckon it probably was. For a lot of reasons I think it might have been. I think it is the best property.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I mean you like big and silly stuff. I do like big and silly stuff. And also just as a like end game, it is amazing it happened at all yeah and then that it wasn't complete nonsense garbage yeah i thought it was good quality and good fun i think in terms of like just a general crowd pleaser yeah really like satisfying good moments uh-huh it's you're probably right like it feels kind of like i'd love to be like don't pick something maybe more like uh intellectual sure no i mean is any of this like super intellectual anyway the eternals are super I'd love to pick something maybe more intellectual. Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I mean, is any of this super intellectual anyway? The Eternals are super intellectual? Oh, yeah, you're right. Because it's slow and ponderous? That means intellectual. It lets you sit there in your own mortality for a bit and you just sit in the cinema in the dark and you're like, oh, my God, I left the oven on. I would say, honorable mention, I think Black Widow was good.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Look, it probably wasn't better than Shog J. Was it better than Loki? No. I think Loki would probably be my second. Yeah, same. My second. It says Collingswood at least best. So Black Widow, Eternals, Falcon, Winter Soldier all have less than 10 votes.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Wow. So there you go. Out of 3,000. Yes. We're not all doing comic book properties as well, but this stuff up top, a lot of this is comic book properties. Or remind me, before we top, a lot of this is comic book properties. Or remind me, before we get to best movie of the year, I'm going to do my find and replace award.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Okay, good. Oh, yeah. I'm going to do that. Absolutely. Please. Which for people who don't know, I'll actually explain it later. Yeah, that's fine. That's a bit of a – people are going to love it.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Best DCEU property, which might not be what that world is called. Smaller field. Number one, the Suicide Squad. Number two, the Snyder Cut. It's going to be a bigger year for DC in 2022. Look, as someone who did enjoy the Snyder Cut, in talking of, if we're talking big and silly and over the top, and also, I guess, like very serious, which could also be fun.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Like take a big dumb thing as seriously as you can. I would have said. Yeah. And also, I guess, like, very serious, which could also be fun. Yeah. Like, take a big dumb thing as seriously as you can. I would have said. In another year where there was no Suicide Squad, this would have won. Yeah, I think so too. Because there's one movie. Look, I think it was the Suicide Squad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:36 But, again, like, I would have thought just looking at these, it would have been like a Suicide Squad for sure. But, like, you know, you're right. There's a lot to like in Zack Snyder's Justice League. Also, I don't know if I mentioned this, it got 80% as opposed to Snyder Cut's 20%. There's some other mentions here because people could actually put in their own thing.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Doom Patrol, Superman and Lois Titans or something might have won. James did this question. Don't blame Colin because he's cool and handsome. That's true. I did put it in as a joke initially because I'm like, because there's only one DC movie this year, it's Suicide Squad. And then after I did it, I realised, oh, no, there's two. This joke doesn't work at all. Oh's true. I did put it in as a joke initially because I'm like, because there's only one DC movie this year for Suicide Squad. And then
Starting point is 00:49:05 after I did it, I realised, oh no, there's two. This joke doesn't work at all. Okay, that's what's happened here. This is a typo that's become a real thing, essentially. Okay, great. What do you consider, Mason, the best comic book movie of the year? Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:21 So we've got Black Widow, all the things that we named, and also Venom 2 and Zack Snyder and whatever. I really like the Suicide Squad as well. And look, Spider-Man No Way Home is on here, like I said, very enjoyable, just a straight-up super fun comic book movie. But I think, and the Suicide Squad, again, it's not entirely an original storyline, but. I think it might be the Suicide Squad, again, it's not entirely an original storyline, but. I think it might be the Suicide Squad for me.
Starting point is 00:49:48 For me it is also the Suicide Squad. Huh. Just fun and violent and silly and there's that scene where Peacemaker and the other guy, Idris Elba's character, they just kill that village full of soldiers. It turns out they're all on the same side. It also felt like, and I think this is more a result of the pandemic, it felt like a real movie, whereas Spider-Man looked
Starting point is 00:50:11 like it was filmed in a cupboard for a lot of it because it had to be kept under wraps, and it was also filmed during the pandemic. So, like, how do you bring in certain characters? Put them in a cupboard. I guess we're going to, can we spoil stuff? No, I don't think we should. Well, let's say we won't spoil that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:26 But everything else we can spoil. But like, and then you had to film it in the midst of a pandemic, keeping secrets. Yeah. Everything's green screen, do you know what I mean? Yeah. But the Suicide Squad, there's so much on location stuff. It felt like Rambo 2.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah. Like they're in the jungle and all of that. And I loved that aspect of it. And it was just gooey and mean. And I just thoroughly enjoyed it. So Spider-Man Home won at 65%. The Suicide Squad got 25% and then Shang-Chi got
Starting point is 00:50:55 9%. Next up we have Best Comic Book Movie Ever. What do you think, Mason? Huge field. There's one entrant. The Dark Knight, but Heath Ledger's performance alone. He's taken it again. Incredible one entrant, the Dark Knight, but Heath Ledger's performance alone. He's taken it again. Incredible stuff. Hasn't done it.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Because of Heath Ledger's performance alone. That's what actually got it over the line. Yeah, it's kind of in the option there. There we go. What have we got next, Mason? Best comic book villain. Oh, snap. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Okay, here's where we're going, folks. Agatha Harkness from WandaVision. Yep. Baron Zemo from Falcon and Winter Soldierarkness from WandaVision. Yep. Baron Zemo from Falcon and Winter Soldier. Carnage from Venom 2. Boo. Doc Ock, No Way Home. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Green Goblin, No Way Home. Yep. Echo from Hawkeye. Yep. Kang the Conqueror Loki. Oh, I like that one. King Pin. Somebody's written King Pin here.
Starting point is 00:51:36 That's very funny. Does that mean a lot of people wrote King Pin? No. Oh, wait, did we say that and then Collins put it in? Collins has put King Pin. Yeah, maybe we said King Pin. Good work, Collins. The remade Steppenwolf from Justice X-Night is Justice League.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Pretty good. Starro from The Suicide Squad. Fun. Sylvie from Loki. Not a villain. Wanda Maximoff from WandaVision. Yes, yeah. US Agent from Falcon and Winter Soldier.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Not bad. Ultron from What If? Better. And Zhu Wenwu, who is sometimes called the Mandarin from Shang-Chi. Yes. Good line-up. I did like – there's a lot of good stuff here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I mean, Willem Dafoe was very good. Look, I love Agatha Harkness. Yes, me too. The actor's name, I cannot recall, but I've said it hundreds of times in my life. Catherine Hahn. Catherine Hahn, there we go. She's great, tremendous, love the character. But again, as a reveal, don't care for it, not interested.
Starting point is 00:52:28 It's me, Agatha Harkness. Who? Who is this? With Agatha all along. Yeah. There's not enough kingpin for me to say he was the good villain. Yeah. Like he was good.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Nice to see him back. But he was barely in it. That's true. Starro. He didn't even have a scene with Hawkeye. No. He didn't team him up. That's true. Starro I really liked because absurd.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, and gross. Awful. Awful and gross. Just awful. Like James Gunn I know, and we talked about this when we reviewed it, he was like, it terrified me that image is a comic. And I think he managed to convey that. Because normally you'd be like, big starfish who gives a shit.
Starting point is 00:53:01 What's the sign? He's got a big sloshy eye. Is that Brainwave? Who's the guy? Oh, Dr. fucking, talking about Peter Capaldi. Yeah, it's Dr. Something. Dr. Awful. Let me check.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Okay, great. Kang the Conqueror I loved. A little departure from the original. Not a villain though, I guess. I mean, yes. I feel the same about Echo. But here's the thing though. I think a lot of the time a complicated villain
Starting point is 00:53:25 or a character that does the thinker the thinker there we go yeah um the the character who who you know does villainous things because i think they're doing the right thing that's often pretty good you know i guess you say you could say that with sylvie but you can put in that you say peacemaker yeah and like sometimes you'd be you know the the like sylvie's the antagonist for some of it and she's the impetus for the show to happen, but then she's not a villain at the end. So that's still cool.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Wanda Maximoff tortured all those people in her town for a few days. Yes. US agent cut that guy's head off. I did like him as a villain. Ultron, we've seen Ultron before. But Ultron was good. I thought this was a better version of Ultron. Well, he's doing, yeah, he's more of a comic book scale Ultron.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Like he's, you know... I quite liked this version of the Mandarin. He's not really called the Mandarin because he's like, Mandarin's a fruit. Yeah, that's true. As someone who's a big fan of the Mandarin, you, how did you feel about this on-screen representation? Because that's something that you've always...
Starting point is 00:54:23 That's true. Look, I, you know, good performance, I think. Yeah. But I would have preferred him to just be more just regular evil, just no-nonsense evil guy. Okay. But there you go. Baron Zemo, it's good to see him back.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah. But it's weird they made him a baron. Yeah, and he does a little dance. He does a little dance. He does a little dance. Okay, that's good. I mean if we're judging these on what turned into the best meme, it would be Baron Zemo for sure. So I might have, I'm going to give it to Starro because awful.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Just an awful thing happening all the time. And, you know, the way they get into its eye and it's just terrible. Oh, yeah, that was, yes, okay, sure. But the Green Goblin took it away on the listener's choice with 53%. Yeah. And look, very good. Yeah. And I can't tell with Spider-Man, maybe I'm pushing back on it a little bit because I just saw it.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Yeah, sure. You know? You don't want to make the wrong call. Well, I would hate to. Yeah. No, this is subject to change. But no, Willem Dafoe, just terrific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Just so good. And you know what? In fact, I'm going to give it to him just because it's great to see, and I'm sure I said this in the review, it's great to see Willem Dafoe, he can do the perfect Green Goblin impression with his face, finally gets to show people his face as he does it. He's really doing it.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah. Absolutely. People also said, Omni-Man from Invincible and The Dark Knight by Heath Ledger's performance below. Oh, yeah, definitely. Two excellent choices. What about this? Post-credits.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Okay. So some of these will be spoilers, folks. These will have to be, yeah. The trailer for Spider-Man No Way Home had the trailer for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Yep. It was a trailer. Yeah, it was all right. We got it the next week.
Starting point is 00:56:05 It's fine. At the end of Eternals, Harry Styles shows up as Star Fox and Patton Oswalt shows up as that little guy. Pip the Troll. Yeah, I was indifferent to that. And you hated the Pip the Troll CG, right? Yeah, I did. Also at the end of Eternals.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Ebony Blade. Yeah. And Blade. Ebony Blade and Blade, double Blade situation. That was pretty good. Good. I would have been better if we saw it was Blade. Ebony Blade and Blade, double Blade situation. That was pretty good. Good. I would have been better if we saw it was Blade. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I love the fact that we had to puzzle it out. I thought it was actually a lot of fun. The end of Hawkeye got the complete musical number, a complete musical number from Rogers the Musical. I like that you hated that. I hated it so much. Shang-Chi. Shang-Chi has a little phone conversation with Bruce Banner and Captain Marvel.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I liked that too. I like that a lot. Yeah, yeah. Obviously filmed in cupboards. Yeah, of course, yeah. Smushed together. Do you think they were all on a call together, the actors? No, I do not think they were.
Starting point is 00:56:59 You think they were all recorded separately? Yeah, you're probably right. Venom 2, Venom goes into a parallel universe and then he sees Spider-Man on a TV and he goes, I'm going to go see Spider-Man and then he doesn't. Also that shot is not in that movie. WandaVision, Wanda is in a cabin, a lakeside cabin, and she's doing magic.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Oh, I liked that one actually. I liked that one a lot. And just like the idea that she's out the front, just having a good time, and you're like, oh, she's not up to anything, but then inside, secret evil magic stuff maybe. Yeah, yeah. She's having a good time. And you're like, oh, she's not up to anything. But then inside, secret evil magic stuff maybe. That's right. And finally, at the end of Black Widow,
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yelena visits the grave of Natasha and Elaine from Seinfeld is there. Eh. Bam, ba-bam, bam, bam. I think the Eternals was up there. Minute, minute. I think the Eternals and Shang-Chi were up there for me. What about you? And I did not like the Eternals very much. I went into, no, exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:44 And maybe that's why. Maybe that's why the fact that Kit Harington in a room opening a box. I was like, this is incredible. This is what I've been wanting for two hours for a man to open a box. And there's a sword and it's gone all wibbly wobbly. Just the fact that it's Blade as well, very exciting. I think so, yeah. Maybe I will give it to that.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I'm giving it to it. I'm giving it. The E. I think so, yeah. Maybe I will give it to that. I'm giving it to it. I'm giving it. The Eternals has won an award. They've come away with a coveted thing that happened at the end. Worth, I guess, worth sticking around. Maybe. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Shang-Chi won. It's 21%, followed by Multiverse of Madness trailer, 17%. It's interesting that we just dismissed that and just went, it's a trailer. Because it's not a scene, is it? I guess maybe that's why. But I can see why you would like that. Who doesn't want to see a trailer for the next movie?
Starting point is 00:58:31 That's true, yeah. And then Rogers the Musical at 17.5. People also said Venom leaving the MCU and no way home. Yeah, okay, that's also true. That's pretty fun. That's good. Wow, it's the big award, Mason. My favourite award of the year. Oh, and then there's more awards afterwards.
Starting point is 00:58:46 So, worse awards. That's pretty good. So, folks, this is the winner of the Game Is On Award. Now, this is an award because we missed her. This is back to the early days of the podcast. We watched the movie Dracula Untold. Yep. And a character at the end says, let the games begin,
Starting point is 00:59:02 which I remembered as the game is on. We both remembered it independently as that it's a special award for a movie that ends a movie that ends sort of heavily implied that they're heavily implied and very very smugly that there will be a sequel yeah like it like it's and it's a it's it might be a movie that does nothing but set up a sequel. The Mummy. The Mummy, for example, but also you're a shoo-in for the award if your entire movie sets up a sequel and then your movie does so badly that the sequel is definitely not going to happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I'm trying to think of past winners. Can I? Yeah, please. Let me bring these up. Well, the Dracula I'm told, obviously. Yeah, The Mummy, obviously. So, like, you know, Avengers Endgame was like at the end of that, they pitched another movie.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Yeah. That is completely ineligible because we know they're going to make another Avengers movie eventually no matter what. Exactly. I don't have it in front of me. I can't bring it. I thought it would be on the Weekly Planet because there's a Weekly Planet wiki.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Oh, yes. And I don't think it's actually on there. Wow, someone's dropped the ball there. Yeah. It's actually on there. Wow, someone's dropped the ball there. Yeah. It's definitely not us. Neither of us have dropped the ball there. It's whoever maintains this wiki. But anyway, look, this is a turn up for the books
Starting point is 01:00:15 because the first option here is an MCU movie. I honestly never thought I'd see an MCU movie on here, but it's Eternals. Yeah, so here's the thing. I talked about this in the box office bombs and hits. It's not getting a sequel, right, which speaks volumes to how well this movie was received, but more likely than not financially. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Because, like, Venom's getting movies until the heat death of the universe. But the fact that the Eternals, you know, hasn't made huge money indicates, you know, it's very telling that they haven't announced a sequel. That being said, I think there are a number of elements in the Eternals which are going to spin off. For example, the Dane Whitman, Ebony Blade, Blade scene. I don't think that qualifies because we're getting a Blade movie. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There might be another post. Oh, yeah, the Harry Styles one. Harry, they're not going to bring in Harry Styles and they're not using him. And they go, yeah, sorry, Harry, actually. The movie you were in for two seconds didn't do that well, so you're not getting, you're, as a man beloved by literally millions of people around the world, we don't, we can't rely on you
Starting point is 01:01:19 to make a bankable movie, so sorry, you're out. Next up is Snake Eyes. Now, we are going to do a proper review for Snake Eyes at the end of this, aren't we? Yeah, that's right. Now, I obviously have seen Snake Eyes and remember the movie Snake Eyes very well, but I'm just going to read from the wiki the mid-credits Snake Eyes scene.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Okay, terrific. Love it, love it. In a mid-credits scene on a private jet leaving Japan, the Baroness recruits Tommy into Cobra and Tommy has renamed himself Storm Shadow. That's right. You remember that, don't you? I know that.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I know you know. It's for the listeners. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're accusing them. Next up we have the Matrix Resurrections. Yep. I know they're like, we just talked about it in this episode, where we never plan to do anymore bullshit, absolute bullshit.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yeah, right. Mortal Kombat. What's interesting because I think in the past, if we saw, you know, like decades prior, some movies would do a thing where they would tease something like this universe isn't over, you know, you thought the bad guy was dead but he's punching his hand out of the grave or whatever, and that would never lead
Starting point is 01:02:19 to anything, but we just went, yeah, you know, that's a fun little thing. Yeah. But I think, yeah, like The Matrix those reactions feels like they were like, we cannot close the door on this. No. But I mean, boy, it didn't do well, did it? No.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Has it done well? Has it made its money, mate? Apparently it's done well streaming, but it's also very pirated. Oh, yeah. So the end of Mortal Kombat is Shang Tsung vows revenge as he sends his champion's corpses back to Outworld before Raiden banishes him. And Raiden declares his intention to train new warriors in preparation for the next tournament and assigns the current champions to recruit them. Okay, let me tell you.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Cold into parts of Los Angeles in search of Hollywood martial arts and movie star Jonathan Cage. Okay, so what I'm going to say here is I'm just going to zip through the last three. Venom 2, Zack's Night at Justice League. Because I just want to say it is definitely Mortal Kombat because they didn't even get to Mortal Kombat. As we previously mentioned. Yeah, but also. They never even did a Mortal Kombat. You don't think we're not going to get another Mortal Kombat. As we previously mentioned, they never even did a Mortal Kombat. You don't think we're not going to get another Mortal Kombat?
Starting point is 01:03:07 Did it do well? I think it did okay. I think it did okay. I think it probably, yeah. I reckon I might get a reboot. Actually, budget's $55 million, box office $83 million. Not great. No.
Starting point is 01:03:18 But also, we don't know the HBO Max numbers. Oh, I see what you're saying there, yeah. Look, I don't think there's been anything that's been uh on september variety put okay so on september 14th 2021 variety reported that warner brothers is looking to develop other installments in the mortal kombat universe okay other installments okay so not a mortal kombat yeah so but i mean snake eyes you know yeah i mean snake eyes you know they went it's yeah. I mean, like in this movie. Yeah. Like he's been.
Starting point is 01:03:47 He's pretty much been wearing the outfit and all that. Yeah. We think. We think he's probably, yep, we remember that. Full disclosure, can we give it to a movie we haven't seen? I'm going to give it to Mortal Kombat. I think then, I think. It's not Venom because we're getting more Venom.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Yeah, I think my instinct tells me if they do another Mortal Kombat, it will be probably a reboot. With a lot of the same people though? Some of the same, yeah. Because I think it's very well cast. Yeah. I think it'll be a reboot and I don't think that counts. I think it's the Matrix.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Because that's an implication of failure. Yes. I'm going to give it to the Matrix. Okay. Snake Eyes came... I forgot about the Matrix. Okay. Snake Eyes came in. I forgot about the Matrix. Yes. Snake Eyes came in at 28%. Snake Eyes brackets probably.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Then Zack Snyder's Justice League, 24%. Then Mortal Kombat, 18%. What's interesting about Zack Snyder's Justice League is it does set up things for the future. A whole awful nightmare world and everything. And by all accounts at the moment is completely dead. So that is definitely up there. But I would also say that's not a swing and a miss in terms of like this was so bad and why would you even suggest this?
Starting point is 01:04:54 I kind of feel like Zack Snyder's post, the post-credit sequence in Zack Snyder's Justice League was basically, hey, Warner Brothers, look at all you're going to miss out on. Yeah. Which I don't think is the same thing. Yeah, fair enough. I feel like what he's saying there is like you could have had the Nightmare movie and people would have seen it, but you're not giving it.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Now I'm doing Rebel Moon. Now I'm doing a zombie, this is a heist movie, heist zombie. Rebel Zombie Moon. Rebel, yeah. People also said Cowboy Bebop and Resident Evil, which is probably true. Two true things probably. Two true things.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Wow. Another big – the Game of Thrones also doesn't necessarily need to be have a post credits. No, that's true. I mean it usually does. But I think the best ones sort of lay the groundwork. They're not even a movie. It's just laying the groundwork for a sequel and it's like,
Starting point is 01:05:46 and you're going to see another one, right? Yeah. No. We won't. We won't see another one. We don't have to come to a, like we don't have to decide. No, there's no rules. It's the best award because it's the vaguest award.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Next up we've got one of my favourites, Best Hair or Wig. Yes. Got Jason Momoa from Dune. How many of these do you think are actually wigs though? Because we've got Jason Momoa from Dune. I think Owen Wilson's is, yeah actually wigs, though? Because we've got Jason Momoa from Dune. I think that's real. Okay, we'll go through. Timothy Chalamet, that's real hair.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Scandalous if it was not real. Can you imagine a world where that man is sporting a wig? Yeah. And look, he's got great hair. He's got great hair in Dune. In the French Dispatch, he's got this absolute maniacal bird's nest of a hair. It's great. Oscar Isaac Dune, that's great hair, great beard. That's a real Okay. It's great. Oscar Isaac June.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Like, that's... Consistently good. Great hair, great beard. That's a real beard. That's a good-looking beard. Yep. Owen Wilson as Loki. Wig and mustache.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Wig and good, though. Yep. Yeah, yeah. Dev Patel in the Green Knight again. Good stuff. Good hair, but, I mean, he's not, you know... I mean, with long hair, I would go Jason Momoa over him. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Okay. Ooh, the swordsman Hawkeye. Nah. Now, that's good hair and that's a good mustache, though. him. Yeah, right. Okay. Oh, the swordsman Hawkeye. Nah. Now that's good hair and that's a good moustache though. Not for me though. Okay. That one's going to come down to personal preference. You're approaching the swordsman hair though, I think.
Starting point is 01:06:52 You've got to sort it out. I know. I'm not having a good time with it, though, am I? You're right. And oh, and a rare lady entrant. We normally don't allow this. Yeah, but I mean, it's in there. The people have demanded it.
Starting point is 01:07:04 So Yelena Belova. And I think I know why. Because of the great, the formal scene. That insane ponytail that she had. But I mean I would say Kate Bishop also has great hair in that episode. Yeah, that's true. Who knew Hawkeye would be on a best hair? Who knew there would be a Hawkeye nomination for best hair?
Starting point is 01:07:20 No, that's true. But just the fact there's two is incredible, three really. God. Best hair, man. I mean – I mean, I love that Oscar Isaac is leaning into the grey. But again, that's a personal preference. But aren't all these personal preferences?
Starting point is 01:07:35 Yeah, but also I think like that is just – That beard is so good. Yeah, Oscar Isaac's look in Dune, that is a magnificent regal look like that. Because he's supposed to be the – It speaks to the character, doesn't it? Yeah, he's supposed to be the head of House of Tradies. He's royalty and he looks amazing. I guess all of these speak to the character, you know what I mean? Like the swordsman, you know, he's a bit pompous,
Starting point is 01:07:55 so he's a bit of a pompadour situation. Debitown the Green Knight, like he's a bit of a bloody shambles, mate. His hair reflects that. Owen Wilson's a bureaucrat. Yep, exactly. Yeah. Look, for me, well, yeah. But, I mean, also, like.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Without the beard, I probably wouldn't give it to Oscar Isaac. Yeah, right. But he does have that beard. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. What are you thinking? I'm thinking still Oscar Isaac. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Powerful stuff. I mean, there's no losers here. That's true, yeah. This is an award where I look at it and I go, what a wonderful lineup. Also, what I enjoy here is we've clearly gone, well, Yelena Belova, like Florence Pugh would have had to be in hair for like three hours to do that hair because it's like wedding hair. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:33 And we just went, yeah, Oscar Isaac grew a big beard, didn't he? And they put a comb through it and then went his hair in the morning. It's fine. And then they filmed the movie. Who cares? Whatever. Yeah. So Florence Pugh actually, here we go.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Yep. Bit of validation. She took it away at 22%. There you go. Owen Wilson's low-key at 19%. The Swordsman, 18%. Oscar Isaac, 15%. Timothée Chalamet, 10%.
Starting point is 01:08:53 There were a lot of manual votes for Andrew Garfield who at least appeared in one movie this year, Tick, Tick, Boom. Tick, Tick, Boom, yeah. And then also Benedict Cumberbatch in No Way Home. Also terrible hair, Benedict Cumberbatch in No Way Home. You think? It's a horrible wig. I'm just saying I think it's bad.
Starting point is 01:09:07 That looks grown on me and I prefer it to his real hair. Wow. And I think he does too. Next up we have worst hair or wig. Okay. Now, Collings initially only had one entrant, but I reminded him that Hawkeye, the TV series, had flashbacks, which is why we yet again get the appearance of Clint Barton with his endgame circa 2019.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Just that skunk on his head. Just that awful haircut. But we have a very strong contender this year. New contender. Yeah. It's Elon Musk. He's part of the MCU. He is actually, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:09:42 Because he was in Iron Man 2. Our elongated Muskrat, which is his realful and proper legal name. That's right. I guess what's interesting about this is he's walking around in the real world with this. Yeah. The other thing that's interesting about this, and people probably know this, I know you probably know it,
Starting point is 01:09:57 he's had a series of hair transplants. Yes, I did. So he was bald prior, you can find photos of it, and now he looks like this. And it's a very good hair transplant. He's a billionaire. Yeah, if you didn't know, you'd think that was his real hair. Do you think because they've had to recall like a quarter
Starting point is 01:10:14 of all the Teslas ever made, do you think he's going to have to give some of these hair plugs back? He should have to, yeah. I think so, yeah. They should come to his house and take them from him. But what is that? It's atrocious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Like I would say it's divorced dad hair, but it's more than that. Yeah. There comes a point, I think we talked about this in real life. It's the fifth element. It's Gary Oldman. Yeah, it is. The fifth element, yeah. But like we're getting older, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Speak for yourself. We're pushing into our 30s. Yeah, that's correct. One day. We're getting there. Big 301 day. I mean, I live pretty far, so maybe I won't even make it to the big 30. There's a point where I think you said this with clothes,
Starting point is 01:10:54 where the mark of good clothes is you can wear them at any age and you don't look ridiculous, where there are only clothes that you can get away with if you're young. Yeah. Because even if you're in great shape and you're 60 there are certain clothes that you kind of you probably couldn't wear a cool like summer romper sure you know what i mean yeah i mean there's probably exceptions taika waititi could probably has done it yeah not that he's 60 and so i think it's the same with hair i think there's certain things that you can get away like haircuts you can get away
Starting point is 01:11:22 within your youth that you that you should not away, like haircuts you can get away with in your youth. That's true, yeah. That you should not attempt as an older person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is like the perfect. We spent too much time on this. Oh, no. No, this is, we cover the big issues. Yeah. The wig issues.
Starting point is 01:11:37 The very wig issues. It's obviously Elon Musk for me. He could have done, there are other options here that are short on the sides and longer on the top. He could have even, if he like pulled it back even. That could work. The fact that he's just kind of like – it looks like a fish flopped over on his head.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like just a hamburger patty. That's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, it's Elon Musk. Bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:59 But he counts because he was in Iron Man 2. That's right. So he actually has taken it away in the listener's choice with 74%. There you go. Followed by Hawkeye, 23%. But, of course, there's some others in here. Woody Harrelson, Charlize Theron, Fast at Nine. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 01:12:12 That's a big one. The bowl cut. She's got the bowl cut, yeah. Better Than Her Dreads. And Benedict Cumberbatch in No Way Home again. Ooh, controversial for you, I know. What's next, Mason? Best animated movie.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Woo! Let me tell you this. I've seen one of them. Big turnout this year. Big turnout. There's only one that I'm like, not that one. But the rest of these, I'm like, good movies. Well, that's the one that I've seen.
Starting point is 01:12:31 So the nominees are Encanto, newly released. Luca, which is about a fish boy. Loved it. Thought it was terrific. The Missiles vs. The Machines. People liked that one. Also loved it. Raya and the Last Dragon.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Also loved it. And then, of course, Space Jam and New Legacy. Drek. Absolute garbage. How did I end up seeing that one and Raya and the Last Dragon. Also loved it. And then, of course, Space Jam and New Legacy. Drek. Absolute garbage. How did I end up seeing that one and none of the others? Just dog sick of a movie. So you have to pick it because it's the one you've seen. I have to, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:54 That's the best animated movie I saw this year apparently. I've got to say. I'm going to re-watch the animatrix. That was better. I'm going to say The Mitchells vs. The Machines. I think it spoke to me as like a family man. Now, what is the plot of this? As a white man.
Starting point is 01:13:10 What is the plot of this? As a man who loves technology. Oh, what is the plot of this? So basically robot, like Elon Musk style robots take over and then this family, the Mitchells, have to. So just men in unitards. Yeah, and it's also Sony Animation who did Spider-Verse. And they're just killing it at the moment it seems.
Starting point is 01:13:26 But also I liked Encanto but I didn't love it. I wasn't expecting much from Luca because people were like, it's just a very simple whatever. It's about boys who want to get a moped. Like that's what it's about. You should talk to different people because all the people who recommend you stuff are always like, it's about a boy and he's got a moped.
Starting point is 01:13:44 I'm dumb actually. I have a bad opinion thanks for your input all right i'll see you later mate but i thought it was just like lovely and sweet and simple and fun and my son also loved it and ryan the last dragon was really cool okay but um so i'll probably say mitchell's most of the machines then luca then raya in that order okay Okay. And then Encanto, but not by much. And then Space Jam well down the bottom like a pile of dog sick on the floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you obviously said Space Jam because you had to. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:13 I got down on the floor and I lapped up that dog sick. They did Luca a disservice by dumping it on Disney Plus as well. Oh, right, okay. Because it was very good. So Mitchell's versus the Machine took it away. Danny McBride's in it. Ah. And one of the ones from...
Starting point is 01:14:28 Josh Gad. 4 and 3 and 2 and 1, that show, Broad City. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, right. Abby. Yes. It plays Abby. Okay, we're over there. And a bunch of other people.
Starting point is 01:14:39 It is Abby, I think, are actually in it. Okay, all right, cool. So then it was Luca. Then it was Raya and the Last Dragon. People always say Ron's gone wrong and Evangelion 3.0 plus 1.0. That was a new Evangelion. Twice upon a time. Yeah, you didn't see it?
Starting point is 01:14:52 No. I didn't know there was an anime. It could be considered. Here we go. But I think that's a whole different style of animation. Abby Jacobson or something. Thank you. There we go.
Starting point is 01:15:01 I haven't seen Ron's Gone Wrong yet, but I've heard it's also good. Next up, Mason. Next up, best horror movie. Wow. We actually saw some of these this year. Saw a lot of these. There's only one of these I didn't see. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And obviously there are plenty. Fuck, I wanted to see Candyman 2. So many of these. Fuck. So many horror movies came out this year. I'm sure there were probably like Annabelle's and Poltergeist Goose. Poltergoose. Poltergoose. Poltergoose's.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Poltergoose's and Conjuring's, which are Annabelle's, I think. I think it's Poltergeist. Yeah, thank you. I think there was one where Patrick Wilson's like, we're the paranormal investigators again or whatever. You know those ones? Conjuring the devil. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Devil got up on my grill. But here's the ones pretty much we saw. Army of the Dead. Yep. A Quiet Place Part 2. Yep. Candyman, we didn't see it.'s the ones pretty much we saw. Yep. Army of the Dead. Yep. A Quiet Place Part 2. Yep. Candyman, we didn't see it. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Last Night in Soho. Yep. Malignant. Yep. Halloween Kills. Boo. And a big surprise because I forgot this movie came out, Spiral from the Book of Saw.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Boo. Terrible. Terrible. Just so good. I mean, in terms of bang for your buck. Real shame. Malignant was very entertaining. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Was Last Night in Soho a horror? I guess it was, wasn't it? Yeah, it was Jarlow, James. It was Jarlow horror. A term we don't fully understand. We don't know it. And never will. I know you didn't like Army of the Dead that much,
Starting point is 01:16:19 but I didn't mind it. It wasn't my favourite. It was very Zack Snyder. I mean, the first, if the movie was, again, if the movie was like the first ten minutes, absolutely. If it was just two hours of that first ten minutes again, just showgirls and, you know, Las Vegas dealers being shot by mercenaries, that would have been hilarious.
Starting point is 01:16:41 But just a dull Vegas, no good. I'm going to give it to, and Halloween Kills wasn't anything. No. Absolute filler. It was not good. Also, I liked A Quiet Place too. It was clearly like get ready for the next one. Yeah, remember.
Starting point is 01:16:54 But I did like it. Yeah. I wish I saw Candyman because I get the feeling I probably would have been up here. Then again, I haven't seen it. Probably Last Night in Soho then, I guess. Okay. I think also what I like about Last Night in Soho is it twists into that.
Starting point is 01:17:08 You know, it doesn't start like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also Malignant was an insane movie. For me it was Malignant, of course, another giallo horror movie. Yes, of course. But, again, we're not overly familiar with this kind of genre, but it's just the idea of I spent – everybody recommended it. We saw it on the recommendation.
Starting point is 01:17:29 We weren't going to review it or anything. Yeah, and then people were like, you've got to see this, and I spent two-thirds of the movie going, why did people recommend this? And by the end I'm like, that was a hell of a ride. What a fun time. Yep, that's exactly what it is. I'm going to give it to Last Night in Soho though. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:43 And you're going to give it to that other thing. Yes. Great. Let's see what the is. I'm going to give it to Last Night in Soho though. All right. And you're going to give it to that other thing. Yes. Great. Let's see what the listeners said, Mason. They said Last Night in Soho, 37%. Quiet Place, 2%, 28%. Then Malignant at 10%. People also said that in Much Much Horror this year
Starting point is 01:17:55 and The Beach That Makes You Old. I forgot about that. I forgot The Beach Makes You Old. I did like The Beach That Makes You Old. That beach did make them old. It made them so old. I loved it. I thought it was cool. Yeah, nice. I don't know if people think I'm joking, but I did really like it. That beach did make them old. It made them so old. I loved it. I thought it was cool.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Yeah, nice. I don't know if people think I'm joking, but I did really like it. That's great. Was that man a CGI man? Oh, yeah. Did we ever come up with that? Nah, I didn't get anything. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Best video game adaptation thing. Arcane on Netflix. Yep. Free Guy. Yep. Mortal Kombat. No. Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Probably not. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 trailer. That was a good trailer. So were there two Resident Evil things that happened this year? There might have been a Netflix show or something. But this is the movie live action one where they just adapted the games. Interesting. We've got a lot of people love an arcane.
Starting point is 01:18:39 I didn't get a chance to see it. So many people have said you should do an episode on it, and we haven't. We haven't done that. Yeah. So I guess it's Free Guy for me. I think it might be chance to see it. So many people have said you should do an episode on it, and we haven't. We haven't done that. We haven't done that. So I guess it's Free Guy for me. I think it might be Free Guy as well. And I liked Free Guy. Also, did we say the Sonic the Hedgehog 2 trailer?
Starting point is 01:18:52 That was in there. Yeah. I mean, Free Guy, and I think the advantage of Free Guy was that they didn't buy the license or get the license to Grand Theft Auto, so they weren't bound to the rules of it, and they didn't just have to do just a crime drama or a crime action movie that just happened to have some mechanics from the game in it. And also like a lot of the scenes where you sit in a car
Starting point is 01:19:16 and then somebody talks to you about the mob or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Free Guy, they were like, okay, we can do a video game movie, but we make it meta, characters know they other in a video game, et cetera. I got 32%, Arcane at 28%, and Sonic 23%. People also said Castlevania's final season is really great. Isn't that anime? I feel like it was anime.
Starting point is 01:19:38 I would have seen it. Yeah, yeah. It's a cartoon. It's a cartoon for kids. Best video game. Oh. God, this is just a list of games I didn't play. Same.
Starting point is 01:19:45 But here we go. All right. Deathloop. Yep. Didn't play it. Guardians of the Galaxy. Did play it. Didn't finish it.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Okay. Didn't like it, though. Halo Infinite. Didn't play it. Hitman 3. Didn't play it. It Takes Two. Want to play it.
Starting point is 01:19:56 You don't have a friend, though. No, I don't. Yep. Do you want to? No, never mind. Metroid Dread. Didn't play it. Psychonauts 2.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Didn't play it. Ratchet and Crank. Ratchet and Crank. Rift Apart. Didn't play it. Resident Evil Village. Didn't play it Psychonauts 2 didn't play it Ratchet and Crank Rift Apart didn't play it Resident Evil Village didn't play it didn't love it stopped playing it Returnal
Starting point is 01:20:11 didn't play it you didn't finish Resident Evil Village no too gross no I just kind of like just alright
Starting point is 01:20:17 a lot of people loved it I think a lot of it is good I just didn't really didn't connect with me I got to the point where I'm like I'm in a castle and find a key and I'm like nah I'm not going to do that actually I got to the point where I'm like I'm in a castle and find a key
Starting point is 01:20:25 and I'm like nah I'm not going to do that actually I got my own keys I got my own keys and a key ring right here I don't need it and so I just stopped playing it I just look at all my
Starting point is 01:20:32 PlayStation 4 games and I go this is a sad set of affairs of games you know I found the other day I found I'm like you know what I should play
Starting point is 01:20:39 that game where like all the rats like a Plague's Tale oh yeah with all the rats sure I have it I bought it I've got a physical copy of it.
Starting point is 01:20:46 But did you let the rats play? I let the rats play. Yeah, great. Okay. I showed you how my little dog killed a rat. Yes. Goddamn. You know that little dog I have, everybody?
Starting point is 01:20:54 It killed a fucking rat. Yeah. It killed two things, killing rats, pissing everywhere. Just out of excitement. Well, we worked out why she pissed everywhere is because she was just woken up. And she's supposed to go out straight away. Yeah, right, right, right. But she ran over to you and then just pissed all over the floor.
Starting point is 01:21:09 All right. Yeah. Anyway, what did you play from these? None of them. What would you pick then? Oh, I was going to get Hitman 3, but I didn't. So let's give it to Hitman 3. I do want to play the Hitman games because there is a new...
Starting point is 01:21:20 James Bond game on the way. Yes. And so it's the same developers. I know, yeah. So there you bloody go. Here's something for you, though. Here's something just free of charge for you right now. It's not on the way. Yes. And so it's the same developers. I know, yeah. So there you bloody go. Here's something for you, though. Here's something that's just free of charge for you right now. It's not on the list.
Starting point is 01:21:29 But the game I probably played the most was... Sonic Colors? I have been playing a lot of Sonic Colors and a lot of Sonic Team Racing at the moment. Super Mario 3D World plus Bowser's Fury came out of February of 2021. Oh. I have been playing...
Starting point is 01:21:43 I've played so much of that game. I just... I played it to death because my son loves it. We play it together. It's a wonderful game. It is a reissue of like, it's a remake of an old game, but it has the new Bowser's Fury addition to it. It's a really good Mario game as well. I think it's terrific.
Starting point is 01:21:58 And that's my game of the year. Now I've heard that whenever Mario is on screen and he speaks, you turn the TV down and you just play a clip of Chris Pratt, one of his famous movies. I play an Instagram clip where he's like, I went to the woods and I prayed to God or whatever he's up to. Great. Perfect stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Anyways. You need your son to have the authentic Mario experience. So Guardians of the Galaxy 1 with 22%. And it was great. I didn't finish it because I didn't like it. I just didn't. I liked the choices that you had or at least what felt like the illusion of choice. I don't think it did anything much new mechanically, but the story was so compelling that it worked.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Then Halo Infinite, 16%. Then Resident Evil Village at 10%. And then It Takes Two, 9%. I should play. I really liked A Way Out, the previous game they did. And then Metroid Dread, which are 8%. Also, that developer exclusively does adventure games where you- You have to have a mate. You have to have a mate.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Okay, right. Yep. All right then. So that's cool. And there you go. And that's everything for the year. Just kidding. There's many more awards.
Starting point is 01:22:58 So many more. Best movie trailer. Wow. And I guess if there's multiple, just the best one. Yeah, just the best one. Or if we go by runtime, whoever had the most trailers. The Batman. Yep.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Black Adam. Okay, yep. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. Yep. The Green Knight. Good trailer, yeah. The Flash. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Last Night in Soho. Spider-Man No Way Home. Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse Part 1. Sonic the Hedgehog 2. Oh, man. God, that fucking Batman trailer, that first one yeah i know it's it's batman and i'm a sucker for fucking obviously yeah yeah uh because like did something exciting happen in the flash trailer yeah we see batman sort of we might we're about to see batman something else
Starting point is 01:23:38 though no that was it doesn't matter but yeah the batman trailer like is either either of these ones but i definitely that first one yeah where we see him you know with the penguin thinks he's gone away with it and then the bad movie just mows him down or just jumps out of the also i think there's a trailer 2020 as well right right yeah i'm talking about the newer one yeah yeah and just and again like there's that that scene where he's getting machine gun he's walking down the corridor he's just so good around it's really good i don't remember black adam so um i don't think it was anything. Doctor Strange didn't show much, so I'm not...
Starting point is 01:24:08 I am excited for it, and I think that's the same with Spider-Man, because for me, those trailers are more about what's not in this than what's going on here. The Green Knight was a very intriguing trailer. Yeah. Last Night in the Sun was good, too. I love the Sonic trailer. Across the Spider-Verse, I liked liked but I wouldn't say it was my favourite I also spent most of that trailer going
Starting point is 01:24:31 was this at the end of the first one? Some of it was, I'm going to say the Batman Same But not the most recent one, the one they released maybe mid-year, I don't know Let's see what the people said What did the people say, James? At weeklyplanet.nerd.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Oh, do we have.nerd? Did we acquire.nerd? Okay, great. The Batman DC fandom, 58%. Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse, 12%. Spider-Man No Home, 11%. Multiverse of Madness, 6%. And Sonic, 2%.
Starting point is 01:24:59 A lot of manual votes for the Matrix Resurrections trailers. They were good trailers. Look, they were pretty good trailers. They were good trailers in the sense that. These areions trailers. They were good trailers. Look, they were pretty good trailers. They were good trailers in the sense that. These are good trailers? They were good trailers and even, you know, they were intriguing and you went into the Matrix, you didn't know what it was about yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I mean it wasn't about much more than the trailers ultimately. It turned out in the end. But still, it was like they weren't trailers that just gave the whole game away, which is nice. Maybe they should have. They should have. Next up we've got best streaming service of the year. Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Disney+, HBO Max, Hulu, Netflix.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Now I want to make a quick amendment to our hits and misses of the year, the videos. I was like, why would HBO Max dump? Why would they put everything in HBO Max? They lost billions of dollars on this. This was the stupidest decision that a company has ever made, second, of course, to Quibi. But I really appreciated it.
Starting point is 01:25:55 It made my year better. So, yeah, I just, wonderful. Just great for me. But bad for them. But you should slam them in public. Slam them on your YouTube channel. I mean, Netflix though, man. But then again, Disney.
Starting point is 01:26:14 What do you mean? What do you mean Netflix, man? There's always everything. It's just always happening there. In a good way? Yes. Really? And Disney Plus, I guess, also did Marvel stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:22 See, I would say Netflix, very unfocused. Yep. So I'm not, like guess, also did Marvel stuff. See, I would say Netflix, very unfocused. Yep. So I'm not, like, again. Scattershot. It's always there, but it's got a billion things from the last few years and just, like, I'm flicking on Netflix if I know there's something I want to watch on it. Like, I've checked already and it's on Netflix, I'll watch it there.
Starting point is 01:26:41 But I'm not flicking on Netflix and going, wonder what's here for me. Yeah. Because I'm not flicking on Netflix and going, I wonder what's here for me. Yeah, fair enough. Standard whatever. But, I mean, Disney+, a lot of original Marvel content, great love in that. Yep. Also, honorable mention, shout out to Australian streaming service Stan, which I think is very good.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I was just going to say, like I was thinking just earlier, and I have something to say in our segment, what we're going to read. Like I was thinking that just earlier, and I have something to say in our segment, what we're in, what we're going to read. But the thing about Stan is Stan, as opposed to just like network TV in Australia, which just does reality TV because it's the cheapest possible thing to manufacture, Stan is actually making like dramas and comedies.
Starting point is 01:27:20 And also gets a lot of interesting things from overseas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. People, Stan, I really like Stan. Amazon Prime's also got a lot of old stuff as well that's true but it is sometimes i click on a thing and it's like give us money for this and i'm like ah fuck you also apple plus pretty pretty good stuff on there as well amazon prime is interesting because it's like it's like i have too many of these yeah it's like it's it's because they were they there's all there there's old stuff that, like, because, again, the thing about Netflix is so much,
Starting point is 01:27:47 so little of it is pre, like, 1990. Like, if you want anything old, it's just not there. But Amazon Prime has a bunch of old stuff. But also it's just like, like, if you just scroll and see if there's anything interesting, it's just, like, short films and, like, ads and, like. It's weird because, like, it doesn't, it's deeper than short films and like ads and like it's weird because like it doesn't it's it's deeper than you think yeah because like i feel like you can get to the end of disney plus pretty rapidly yeah you definitely yeah but amazon it's like there's so much of this happening and
Starting point is 01:28:17 it's amazon so they're awful monsters yeah definitely but uh yeah you know but it's also like six bucks a month so yeah it's so good on there yeah um but it's i like six bucks a month. Yeah. It's so good on there. Yeah. But it's, I mean, Disney Plus had all the Marvel stuff this year, didn't they? They sure did, yeah. And they also had a bunch of stuff that went straight to streaming, like Black Widow went there, which I appreciated. Luca went there, which I appreciated. So it's probably Disney Plus for me. Yeah, I think so as well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:36 In terms of things that like, in terms of something I didn't have that I would have got this year. And luckily Disney's a way more ethical corporation than Amazon. That's what I'm talking about. It's night and day. It's not the same. They took the cigarettes out of Walt Disney's hands in all the imagery.
Starting point is 01:28:51 I think that's beautiful. That is beautiful, isn't it? That's art in itself. But I think if you looked at these as well, not that we can get HBO Max here straight, but you can get it through various channels. But Disney Plus is the one I would have got if I didn't have it. Like if I had none of these, that would have been the one I would have signed if I didn't have it. Like if I had none of these,
Starting point is 01:29:07 that would have been the one I would have signed up for first. What are you going to give it to? Yeah, Disney Plus. It's not my favourite, but it's the one that I go to for like specifically I'm watching this every week. Yeah, for me it's more like it's more honestly probably YouTube would be mine. Yeah, well, that's probably true. That's actually true.
Starting point is 01:29:26 I've watched more YouTube than anybody. If I'm in the mood to watch a documentary about old 8-bit video games or something like that, I'll go to YouTube because there'll be somebody who's done it for the passion of doing it. And if you click on the one on Netflix, it's like, this is fine. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. And you know what I think the other thing is about Disney+, I only go there specifically.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I don't go there to browse. Yeah, but I'm going to say YouTube. Yeah, the answer is YouTube, I think. But I think like Disney Plus, if there's appointment viewing of like, here's a new thing and you've got to say this because it's the latest thing, it's probably on Disney Plus. And you have to review it. I have to review it.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Yeah. But it's YouTube. So Disney Plus came in at 59% and HBO Max at 16, then Netflix at 15. Here's one, which is very self-indulgent, but I'm here for it's YouTube. So Disney Plus came in at 59%, then HBO Max at 16%, then Netflix at 15%. Here's one, which is very self-indulgent, but I'm here for it. Okay. Favourite Caravan of Garbage series. This is what we covered this year. This will be interesting to see what people like.
Starting point is 01:30:14 But what did we like the most? Yeah, because I don't think necessarily the numbers reflect what people like the most necessarily. There's ones that are popular, but they might not be people's favourite episodes, you know what I mean? That's true, yeah. the most necessarily. Like there's ones that are like they're popular, but they might not be people's favorite episode. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. The Amazing Spider-Man, Fast and Furious, G.I. Joe, Ghostbusters,
Starting point is 01:30:32 Iron, hated that. I was Iron Man. You hated Ghostbusters because all of them? I hated going back to it. No, I liked the first one, but I hate everything about Ghostbusters. Yeah, right, right, right. Iron Man. James Bond I really enjoyed doing.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Yeah. I always enjoyed doing the james one ones the mask uh the matrix was that was fun actually i like the matrix mortal combat yeah saw saw was interesting but it kind of by the third one i'm like i get it yeah yeah for sure and then superman one to four well it's not gi jokers i forgot we did those i think it's james bond for me and really liked, even though there were more effort going and playing all the video games, I'm a sucker for James Bond games for some reason.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Yeah, right. Good or bad. And I like finding something that's like I've found like a weird DLC that ties into this game. Yeah, right, right, right. That ties into this movie or whatever. That's fun. I mean, I liked.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Then again, The Matrix was cool. And I liked re-watching the Fast and Furious ones, but we did the first three and the third one's rough. I liked that one. That was my favourite. I think it's bad. The Amazing Spider-Man was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:35 But I don't think I had any startling revelations about it. Yeah. The Matrix really made me come around on those sequels as well a lot more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? I think it's James Bond for me. Okay? I think it's James Bond for me. Okay. I think it's James Bond for me as well.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Yeah, because it's a lot of fun. Love, you know, watching Daniel Craig go through the motions. Watching what he's up to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that actually won at 23% followed by The Amazing Spider-Man at 17% and The Matrix 12%. I also think people like when we do like, well, The Amazing Spider-Man doesn't speak to this,
Starting point is 01:32:05 but you can do like a whole series. Yeah. And work in video games and everything. It's just, it's not, I was going to say maybe it seems easy, but I'm sure it doesn't. I don't know. It's hard when you've got to do, it's hard when you've got to do like video games and a movie and whatever.
Starting point is 01:32:20 It's more work than I, but I think it's good. Anyway, best series ever. Oh, my goodness. Okay. What do we got? We didn't. Neither of us watched all of these, I would imagine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Let's go for it. Aunt Cain. Didn't say it. The Netflix series people love. Bridgerton. You saw Bridgerton? No, didn't watch it. Did Claire watch Bridgerton?
Starting point is 01:32:37 She did, yeah. Should we bring Claire in? Yep. Should we bring her in? No, she's in bed. Yeah, no, that's pretty. Yeah. Let's wake her up.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Claire, did you see Bridgerton? Yes. She hears a, that's pretty. Yeah. Let's wake her up. Clay, did you see Bridgerton? Yes. She hears a knock at the door. No, she hears the door opening and then we just shoved like two sets of microphones in her face. Clay, what did you think of Bridgerton? Did you know in the second series they're not bringing back the original core cast members because the books focus on a different family? Because the Bridgerton collapsed and they were all on it.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Which is what I assume the show is about. Bridgerton has poor foundations. Yes. Okay, well, we should get through more of these is about. Because Bridgerton has poor foundations. Yes. Okay. Well, we should get through more of these. Cobra Kai, Season 6 of The Expanse. Didn't watch it. Falcon and Winter Soldier.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Watched it. Hawkeye. Watched it. Invincible. Loved it. Jupiter's Legacy. I liked it. Loki.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Liked it. Mare of Easttown. Didn't watch it. Who was in that? Was that Jeremy Renner? Kate Winslet. Kate Winslet. Very good.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Okay, all right. I'm thinking of that movie where Jeremy Renner is in it and so is Elizabeth Olsen. And everybody gets shot in the head. Oh, Wind River. That's the one. It's a good movie. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Mayor of Easttown, Midnight Mass. Midnight Mass is terrific. Yeah, they're great. MODOK. Didn't finish it. Shadow and Bone. Didn't mind it. Squid Game.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Ooh, popular choice, no doubt. Sweet Tooth. I like Sweet Tooth. Ted Lasso Season 2. Good fun. WandaVision. Yep. What If? Yep. The Witcher Season 2. Didn't Tooth. Ted Lasso season two. Good fun. WandaVision. Yep. What If?
Starting point is 01:33:46 Yep. The Witcher season two. Didn't watch it. I'm going to add one to this. Okay. It's currently still going. Yes. Station 11.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Oh, I've heard that's good. Amazing. So that is a pandemic style show, right? Yes, but it's a different kind of pandemic. It was written, the books were written several years ago, right? Yeah, the books were written in 2014. Okay. And it's got, I always forget her name.
Starting point is 01:34:03 What is her name? Famous people. It's got so many famous people in it. Oh, my God. It's got the guy from like. David Cross is in it, right? David Cross is in it. Is that a spoiler?
Starting point is 01:34:09 David Cross is in it? No, he's in it. That's fine. Mackenzie Davis. Oh, from Ghostbusters. No. Oh, from Terminator. From Terminator.
Starting point is 01:34:16 I'm confusing Mackenzie Davis from the Candy Crush. And Himesh Patel, who was in the Beatles movie where nobody remembers the Beatles. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got Laurie Petty, who plays Tank Girl. It's really good. Mackenzie Crook. Is that the little girl? Mackenzie Crook is Gareth from The Office. Oh yes. He is too. Yeah. Who am I thinking
Starting point is 01:34:33 of? Who's the young lady in Ghostbusters Afterlife? What's her name? I know who you mean. She's also in I'm going to look it up. That movie with Chris. I'm going to look it up. You're going to love it how I look it up. McKenna Grace. Yes, there we go.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Okay, not Mackenzie Grace. And it's also got the photographer from Just Shoot Me. Mackenzie Cook is Gareth, you're right. And Mr. Detectorist. Mr. Detectivist. So, look, that's not finished yet. So, look, it would be, I guess I won't put it on there, but I would say Midnight Mass then.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Okay. And Netflix. Yes, that's true. What do you think though? Ooh. Ooh. Did you finish Midnight Mass then. Okay. And Netflix. Yes, that's true. What do you think though? Ooh. Ooh. Did you finish Midnight Mass? No.
Starting point is 01:35:10 So I guess I won't spoil Midnight Mass, but I liked the parallels between, like it's basically, it's about a monster metaphorically and real. Yes. And can I spoil it? No, I'd rather you, no. Okay. But it's got vampires on it, right?
Starting point is 01:35:22 Yes. Vampires? Because there's vampires in the thumbnail. Yes. Oh, there's in the thumbnail. Okay. But they're like vampires on it, right? Yes. Vampires? Because there's vampires in the thumbnail. Yes. Oh, there's in the thumbnail. Okay. But they're like, look, it's an angel.
Starting point is 01:35:29 An angel has visited our town. And just like everybody who knows anything, including the watcher, is just like, it's a fucking vampire. What are you talking about? And just the people are so, like, focused on this beautiful miracle. Yeah, right. But it's like that's clearly, even if you didn't know what a vampire was, you'd be like, that's bad news. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:45 That looks like a human but not. Gosh, great, great question. I mean, oddly I did like Jupiter's Legacy quite a bit. I liked it too. Did you like it more than Invincible though? I liked Invincible a lot too. Yeah, I liked Invincible more. And look, a lot of people didn't like Jupiter's Legacy,
Starting point is 01:36:01 but I quite, I did. And I've kind of cancelled it forever. Boy. I mean, Ted Lasso's consistently good. We've also reached the point in this where some of my answers might contradict other answers. Sure, that's fine. Like I might have said the best Marvel series was WandaVision earlier,
Starting point is 01:36:15 but now I'm going to be like, I loved Hawkeye the most or whatever. So. Sweet Tooth was good too. Yeah. So I'm talking about Netflix. Good stuff. Yeah, all right. Pretty good. And of course, Squid Game was on Netflix. Yeah. So I'm talking about Netflix. Good stuff. Yeah, all right. Pretty good.
Starting point is 01:36:25 And, of course, Squid Game was on Netflix. Exactly. Shadow and Bone. I watched Shadow and Bone for some reason. What is it? I've forgotten. It's about dark magic or something. It's not the one about the cities, the mobile cities.
Starting point is 01:36:36 No, you're thinking of Mortal Engines. City of Bones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. That's what you're thinking of. Man. Maybe it's just because it's the closest one, but I'm going to say my favorite series currently is probably Orcai.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Okay. Just because it's a fun Christmas time adventure. It's a good fun Christmas time and I can't argue with that. Invincible won at 27% followed by Ted Lasso at 11% and Squid Game at 10%. Squid Game was good. Yeah. I didn't get it, but I liked it. Oh, it's about how capitalism is good. Oh, then I't get it, but I liked it. Oh, it's about how capitalism is good.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Oh, then I did get it. Yeah. I got it completely. Because what happened is when, because Mr. Beast got all those guys together. Yeah. And then they did the child's games and they won all prizes and stuff, I guess. And that's cool. And that's Squid Games, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:37:19 That's a Squid Game. That's a Squid Game. We call it a calamari game. That's a Squid Game. In Italy they call it a calamari game, yeah. The most anticipated series of 2022. In Australia they call it extra potato cake game. They call it crab stick game.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Crab stick game. Most anticipated, a dim sim game, mate. Yes. Most anticipated, Dimmy. Wait, can I think of a, Chick-O-Roll game. Chick-O-Roll. Is that an Australian thing? Yes, the Chick-O-Roll is Australian.
Starting point is 01:37:49 It's for truckies. Never had it. Because it's a weird... Meat stick? It's a great gross meat product that you can eat while you're driving your truck. Is it like curry-ish? No. I always thought it was like a curry kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:37:58 It is kind of like a dim sim. Because it looks like curry-ish. I'm looking it up. Everyone look up Chico Roll. No. Look up a YouTube video of somebody eating a Chico Roll. No, you won't like it. You won't like what's happening.
Starting point is 01:38:10 It's true, you won't. Yeah. While you're doing that, most anticipated series of 2022. Here we bloody go. House of Dragon. See, they look like a big dim sum. Okay, so it's just off cuts of whatever. They're big.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Okay. Look at that. Look at this fistful of giant dim sum. Get out of my face with that, Mason. House of Dragon. Game of Thrones prequel. Oh, yes. The Last of Us. The Lord of the Rings. Moon Knight. Ms. Marvel.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Obity One Kenobi. Obity One Kenobi. Yep. Pam and Tommy. Oh, with Sebastian Stan. And Lily James. Maybe. I want to say. Pam and Tommy. Oh, with Sebastian Stan. And Lily James. Maybe. I want to say. Peacemaker, which is starting very soon. The Sandman.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Shulk. The Boys Season 3. Mandalorian Season 3. Stranger Things Season 4. Tedrick Lasso Season 3. I am more excited for the first season of a bunch of things as opposed to an additional season of a new thing. Which is why you're going to say Obi-Wan Kenobi? No.
Starting point is 01:39:11 But it's in there. See, for me, like the shows that I liked the most this last year, 2021, whatever, are the shows that I didn't know were coming. So I'd imagine I'm going to say Obi-Wan because I'm very excited to see it, but I would be very surprised if it's my favourite show of the year. Yeah, right, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Oh, gosh. And maybe it's because of his great hair-beard combination. That might be it. And maybe he won't even be having it. I'm talking about my most anticipated. I'm thinking he might not even have it, but Oscar Isaac in Moon Knight. Yeah, well, look, on the topic of that, I want to see how they do She-Hulk. Oh, yeah, definitely, yeah. Like expensive, I'd imagine. Yeah, and actually look, on the topic of that, I want to see how they do She-Hulk. Oh, yeah, definitely, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Like expensive, I'd imagine. Yeah, and actually, you know what? I'm going to switch to She-Hulk. And it's maybe got Daredevil in it, maybe. Maybe it does, but also I like the little, we've seen the tiniest snippets of it and just this, the idea that it looks like a sort of LA law, kind of 80s, 90s legal dramedy kind of thing. I think that looks kind of fun.
Starting point is 01:40:07 And I would love to see, I want to see She-Hulk be a big success and then we put her in the MCU. Absolutely. That would be very good. Also, I want to know if she is fourth wall breaking. Like is she going to do, because she was Deadpool before Deadpool in the comics. That's true.
Starting point is 01:40:19 She was well aware and she still is, I think, to some extent, that she is in a comic book. So I think I want to see if they incorporate that in. They don't have to, but I think it would just be nice to see if they do it. So also just a quick shout-out to The Lord of the Rings 2022. The budget was expected to be in the range of $100 million to $150 million per season and was likely to eventually exceed $1 billion, which would make it the most expensive series of all time.
Starting point is 01:40:42 What's that going to look like? $1 billion. Yeah. How does that look? Astounding. what's that going to look like? $1 billion. Yeah. How does that look? Astounding. What's that going to look like? Anyway, Kenobi, 35%, Moon Knight, 14%, and then The Boys, 9%. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:54 I guess I'm kind of excited to see. Now that you've said $1 billion for a season of Lord of the Rings. I mean, I don't care about Lord of the Rings at the moment. But just- How's that going to shake out? It's fascinating. Now you've at the moment. But just – How's that going to shake out? It would be – it's fascinating. Now you've said the figure, I want to see this just – just the idea that it comes on and people go,
Starting point is 01:41:13 oh, this is like the movies but maybe not as good. A billion dollars. Yeah. I mean, we don't know. It's an estimate. Now, before we get to our later – Are you going to slot in your. I'm going to slot in.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Before we get to worst movie ever and best movie ever, I want to give out an award for, I call it the find and replace award. So it's the movie or TV series that seems most like they just got a script they already had lined around and they put in a celebrity or a branded IP. Yeah. And just were like, this will make money. So in the past, Rambo Last Blood, which I – Totally.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Also, it doesn't seem – it doesn't have – like I don't need any proof, just to be clear. Yeah, and it also doesn't have to – It just has to seem like – It also doesn't have to be like the worst movie you've seen. No, that's true. It just has to be like so formulaic that you're like, did they just – did an AI do this?
Starting point is 01:42:01 You're talking about Red Notice. What are you talking about? Well, you – I haven't said it. Here's the thing. So one year was Rambo Last Blood, which I'm 100% confident was just a Liam Neeson old man has to go to Mexico to rescue somebody's daughter movie and they went,
Starting point is 01:42:15 hey, we haven't done a Rambo in a while. Let's just make it Rambo. Let's just copy out, let's just cut out Liam Neeson and put Rambo in there. And then I think one year I gave it to Joker because, again, I know that was written from scratch, but it just felt like a Martin Scorsese movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:29 But as I mentioned, you know, just add a famous person, add a celebrity or a branded IP, so I think this year it's Jungle Cruise because it's just the mummy. They just got the mummy and they put The Rock in it. Yeah. And it's not as good. It's fine the mummy. They just got the mummy and they put the rock in it. Yeah. And it's not as good. It's fine. Yep.
Starting point is 01:42:50 And they will clearly like it's been 20 years. We can go again on this one. Let's go again on this one. And it's just. And they did. Yeah. Like it's totally fine if you haven't seen the mummy in a long time. But I've seen it relatively recently. Yeah, so it wasn't as good, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:02 That's interesting. I like that award. We should make sure we put that in every year. Well, if anybody has other suggestions, I would love to hear it. Because again, I you know. Probably Snake does. Yeah, the thing about this award is a lot, it's, you know, it's given to a generic movie and we try
Starting point is 01:43:16 to avoid incredibly generic movies. Absolutely. That's very interesting. What about Halloween Kills? Could that be anyone? Probably not. Oh, I mean. What about Halloween Kills? Could that be anyone? Probably not. I mean. What about The Tomorrow War? I considered that one, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:31 But, I mean, that's not like I feel like an IP that they found a script for. That's true, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, Halloween Kills I considered. But I guess, like, it feels to me like a lot of modern horror movies have just taken that Michael Myers trope and made like if somebody, if another horror movie was exactly like that, I'd be like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:43:51 they've just ripped off Halloween. Absolutely. I was just going through the list of movies because we're about to do the worst movie of the year or worst movie ever as we call it and I'm like these are fine and then I'm like I know that one. So I've figured it out. Yeah. But we've got to go through these.
Starting point is 01:44:07 So we've got each of these contains the entire list. So this is the most just a movie, the worst movie, the best movie. So let's just do the whole list and then we'll pick out our best, just, our worst, our just and our best. So here's the list. This year's movies. Army of
Starting point is 01:44:24 the Dead, A Quiet Place Part 2. The Beach That Makes You Old. Old Beach. That beach made them old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Black Widow. Chaos Walking, The Mind Snake. Yep.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Cruella. Dune. We'll like Dune. Ghost Busters Afterlife. Godzilla vs. Kong. Yeah, that's right. Green Knight. That knight was green.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Eternals. More like Boo. More like Eternals, whatever we said. Nice. There we go. Fast and Furious 9. Shit. Free Guy.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Halloween Kills. Jungle Cruise. There it is. The King's Man. We haven't seen that yet. No, we haven't. Last Night in Soho. Malignant.
Starting point is 01:44:58 The Matrix Resurrections. Mortal Kombat. They didn't even do a Mortal Kombat. No Time to Die. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. Yes. Suicide Squad. Yes. Space Jam and New Legacy. Spider-Man even do a Mortal Kombat. No Time to Die. Yeah. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. Yes. Suicide Squad.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yes. Space Jam and New Legacy. Spider-Man No Way Home. Yep. Spiral from the Book of Saw. Yes. The Tomorrow War. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Thunder Force on Netflix. That streaming service that you say, all hits, no misses. I didn't say that. You say everything that comes out of its pure god. Scattershot is not always a bad thing. Venom 2, Let There Be Carnage. Zack Snyder's Justice League and Snake Eyes G.I. Joe Origins. So that's the pool we need to draw from. So on
Starting point is 01:45:30 the list here it says the worst one first. Now I didn't finish this movie but Thunder Force. Oh that's pretty bad. Atrocious. And I think also like I only watched that movie because you were like you should watch 20 minutes of this. Yeah and you didn't even get that far. I couldn't do it. So we sat together and watched it.
Starting point is 01:45:47 So I've watched some of that movie twice. It was so devoid of charm and comedy. And what a cast. What an absolute waste. Yeah. Just the least, and just like the tropes of like, she's at home and she's like, what am I going to have for dinner? Oh, there's a cigarette in this pizza and I'll just brush that off
Starting point is 01:46:05 and I'll, oh, I don't have any coffee. I'll just put some, I don't know, I'll just grind up an egg and drink it or something. You know what I mean? It's just that kind of shit. James, I don't know what you mean. I need more examples. I need more examples from a brain that's already frazzled
Starting point is 01:46:17 from coming up with two bad examples. I need more. It was bad. You're right. And the thing about Thunder Force is. What is it? Lampooning. I'll pick a different thing probably.
Starting point is 01:46:27 But Thunder Force, like it's so cynical in the fact that it clearly went, what's hot? Superheroes? Yeah. All right, let's knock up the cheapest. We can make fun of that. Just the easiest script in the world and just throw it in there and just, it's terrible.
Starting point is 01:46:44 And like bad jokes and just it's terrible. And, like, bad jokes and just. I'm looking for the budget. I can't find the budget on it. Just a nonsensical concept. But, like, Melissa McCarthy, Octavia Spencer, Jason Bateman, Bobby Cannavale, come on. How?
Starting point is 01:46:58 Money. Yeah, money. And, again, we've seen most of these. I didn't see Chaos Walking. I don't think anybody. It would have been up there. Yeah, again, King of these I didn't see Chaos Walking I don't think anybody it would have been up there yeah again King's Man I haven't seen I mean you know what else
Starting point is 01:47:09 is up there Space Jam is definitely up there oh is that up there no it's up there oh it is yeah I mean I guess the thing about Space Jam is like it's so expensive
Starting point is 01:47:16 and just like yeah the absolute audacity to put that together yeah you know like because you know Eternals
Starting point is 01:47:24 not the movie for me. No. But I like that Marvel allowed somebody to do that vision. It's not the vision for me, but I guess, you know, at least they went, let's break out of the formula and try some stuff. The vision for you is Paul Bettany, if you don't mind me saying so. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:39 No, he played the character of the vision. That's why I said it. Yes, very nice. You swept your cigarette off your pizza and you said, the Vision is Paul Bettany. You know what I'm talking about, that trope, right? Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I don't have a server yet.
Starting point is 01:47:53 I'm going to use, I don't know. This pizza. To wipe pizza off me. Oh, yeah, that's good. Oh, my goodness. I mean, Halloween Kills was bad it was bad it was bad and filler yeah like a lot of a lot of stuff goes into what you think is the worst movie yeah i think bad and filler is a crime i did not like spiral from the book of sore at all yeah you know what i didn't like fast and furious 9 either like I thought it was boring and bad and noisy and stupid,
Starting point is 01:48:26 but not in the way that those movies. Also, the movies of those that I like are also noisy and stupid. That's true, yeah. How would they have known? Look, again, Halloween Kills Bad, Godzilla vs. Kong, fine. I liked it, yeah. You know what? For me, I think the worst movie of the year was Space Jam
Starting point is 01:48:45 A New Legacy. It went forever. It was so long, so cynically put together. It wasn't funny. It wasn't funny. The granny did The Matrix. Yeah. Twice.
Starting point is 01:48:56 The Matrix. And again, like, again, at least Thunder Force, Melissa McCarthy's given it the Melissa McCarthy business. That's a bit of fun. But just how do you tarnish the legacy of an already not good series? That's right, yeah. You know? It's just.
Starting point is 01:49:13 They had that good joke of Michael B. Jordan. Yeah, I guess that was pretty good. That was the one thing, right? Yeah, yeah, I guess that was the one joke. And like the rules of the game was just like, oh, no, this is super basketball. You get style points. You get style star points and if you do a super dunk and you – but then Bugs Bunny died but he didn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:31 This is just – I feel like they – Warner's thought this is what their Spider-Man No Way Home would be. Yeah. Like, oh, we just throw in every IP we have and people have such a good time pointing out all the things that they've seen before. And the crowd, like, aren't looking or reacting to anything. Yeah. And like all the interesting crowd are at the back.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Yeah. And I don't like how they look like right to the wall of the, like sit them in seats. Yeah. Why are they so close? Just you can't get away with just this awful cynical marketing exercise in IP management by having a character go, by having the guy, Mr. Basketball.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Yeah. The guy. LeBron James. LeBron. You can't just have him go, yeah, this sounds bad, and then just make it. It's bad. Like that's not how the idea of lampshading works.
Starting point is 01:50:19 You can't just go, oh, this is pretty bad. Yeah, we know. Yeah. We're watching it. What happens there is that just highlights to us that it's bad. What if an algorithm came up with movie ideas? You should try it, actually, because it might be better than this. Get a Twitter bot to make a movie and it'll be better than Space Jam,
Starting point is 01:50:37 a new legacy. Thank you. Look, to be fair, I didn't finish. I didn't even get to Jason Bateman in Thunder Force. Oh, right. Okay. So it wouldn't be ethical of me to say it was the worst movie. It'd be unethical.
Starting point is 01:50:48 It just made me upset. I mean, the first rule of podcasting, first do no harm. Yeah. So it's Space Jam. Yeah. The money and just the awful. All right. What about just a movie?
Starting point is 01:50:59 Oh, my God. Okay. For me, I would have to say Eternals. Yeah. Okay. Sure. I would have to say Jungleternals. Yeah, okay, sure. I would have to say Jungle Cruise, which I'm just going through. Mortal Kombat, The Tomorrow War also.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Yeah. What about you? Ah, boy. I mean, Snake Eyes is on there too. Yeah. But, I mean, obviously that's a polarizing movie. Nobody would say that's just a movie. And we've got a review coming up.
Starting point is 01:51:22 We've got a review coming up, so we'll save that for, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, ah, my goodness. What goes into just a movie? It's like. You come out of a movie. And we've got a review coming up. We've got a review coming up, so we'll save that for, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, ah, my goodness. What goes into just a movie? It's like- You come out of a movie and you go- It's fine. And you have nothing to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:32 And you're just like, it washes over you. Yeah. And like, you don't think about it. Like someone goes, did you see this thing? And you go, no, yeah, I did see that. Maybe Godzilla versus Kong. Okay. I don't hate it.
Starting point is 01:51:43 No, I thought that was- I thought that was- Yeah. Pretty strong comparatively to some of these other ones. Okay, right. Well, maybe I should keep looking. No, you can say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should say it if that's what makes you happy. See, Mortal Kombat was bad, not just a movie in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Okay, sure. I am HO. Yeah. I'm going to say The Tomorrow War. Even though I think I reviewed it fairly positively, it's just kind of nothing. You know what I mean? Venom 2, let there be kindness.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Oh, my God. That's more, that leans towards bad to me. Okay. Like I think there's movies where you go, oh, it's pretty all right and not bad, you know, but this I'm like, no, that was bad. Well, maybe it's Ghostbusters Afterlife for me. It could be.
Starting point is 01:52:23 A movie, a franchise I I should say, also, that I have a complete indifference to. Yeah. I mean, at least in Godzilla vs. Kong, they went into that weird underground upside-down world. And then they had that, remember the battleship fight? No. They fought on the battleship, and at the end they fought the big robot.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Yeah, yeah, they fought a big robot. I mean, I'm reminding you of these things. That's true, yeah. But Godzilla vs. Kong was 100 years ago. That's true, yeah. Yeah. But that was Godzilla vs. Kong was 100 years ago, so. That's true, it was. I think it was like March, I want to say. Jungle Cruise was very generic, as mentioned, but. You did say that.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Yeah. Oh, we didn't say what people's worst was. Oh, yeah. What were you thinking of that? No, I'll do it here. I have it here. Space Jam, 21%. Oh, yeah, that's a bad one.
Starting point is 01:53:00 The beat that makes you old, 9.5. Strong disagree on that one. And then Thunder Force at 9%. Good. I reckon. No, I hated Fast's a bad one. The Beat That Makes You Old, 9.5. Strong Disagree on that one. And then Thunder Force at 9%. Good. I reckon. No, I hated Fast and Furious 9. Yeah, I'm going to say The Tomorrow War. Yeah, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:53:12 It was just a movie. You know, I'd even recommend it. Be like, what's this like? And I'd be like, yeah. The Matrix Resurrections. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, again, I think there's a lot of discussions to be had,
Starting point is 01:53:25 but I didn't come out – but I went in that – like I like that people can talk about it and it's a fun discussion point for people. It's in the discourse. I like that. Maybe in the future I'll be like, oh, I enjoyed that more than I thought I did. But coming out of that, I'm like, I like some of this and not other bits of this, Yep. And no strong feelings really. Wow.
Starting point is 01:53:45 You know, so. What absolute commitment. I can't argue with any of that. I didn't hate it either. I wasn't like this is a portrayal of everything in the Matrix down here. That's what it's about though. Yeah, that's exactly what it's about. You've landed on the exact thing.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the just a movie that people wrote is Black Widow 19%. Yeah, I can understand that. The Eternals 10% and then The Tomorrow War at 7%. Oh, yeah, maybe it was Black Widow. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I like Black Widow. I think it was better than that for me.
Starting point is 01:54:09 The best movie ever for me, it's a toss-up between Dune. Dune is good. Dune is good. You know that slogan? The Mads in the 80s? Halloween Kills. Of course. And No Time to Die.
Starting point is 01:54:21 No, it's between Dune and No Time to Die. And I did mention this on Suggestible. I think No Time to Die, it, it's between Dune and No Time to Die. And I did mention this on Suggestible. I think No Time to Die, it probably wasn't like my favourite movie that I saw, but in terms of blockbusters, it was the one that I think resonated with me the most. It tied in a whole lot of... Because you were getting old. Because I'm getting old.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Why didn't you like The Beast that makes you old? Because it made me get old too fast. Oh, no! Yeah. I liked all the elements of the previous movies, even the things I don't like in the Craig films, came around in a positive way. Semi-spoiler, I guess.
Starting point is 01:54:54 But I like how it definitively closed the book on this James Bond chapter. It's very much its own thing now. For good or ill, I think it encapsulates, I think it took everything about that series that is good or bad and made it good. I cannot disagree. And I think I'm also going to say No Time to Die. I thought it was a delight.
Starting point is 01:55:15 Absolute delight. And it also, it looked amazing. Like I thought Spectre was kind of weird and blurry and foggy and grey and brown. Yeah, and this had, again, the thing about this movie is there was a single scene in this movie that was kind of foggy and dim and green. But you could still see it.
Starting point is 01:55:32 But that was because it was in a dim, dark forest. And with real fog probably. By contrast to the rest of the movie which was colourful and just beautiful kind of, you know, international scenes of intrigue and different environments and countries, and it all felt, it felt like an international high-flying adventure. And it was nice to see Daniel Craig and Ana de Armas together again. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Super fun. I mean, Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter, even Lea Seydoux, who was like, I do not believe that these people even like each other. I thought that worked. Look, probably wasn't the strongest villain because he's just like, I'm going to start a new world order. Yeah, yeah, we know. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:56:06 I liked Lashana Lynch as the new James Bond. Not H007. No, they called her James Bond. Yeah, yeah. You know, like Billy Magnusson was in it. M here, Bond. Put a new Bond. Her name is Bond, James Bond.
Starting point is 01:56:21 Bond, James Bond. So, look, I wasn't expecting to like it spec-ting but I just thought it was wonderful as I mentioned and terrific and fun but shout out to Dune which was good and The Green Knight which was also good
Starting point is 01:56:38 and Suicide Squad which was good and Spider-Man was good there's a lot of good movies I liked Cruella it wasn't my favourite but I liked it which was good, and Spider-Man was good. There's a lot of good movies. Yeah, good movies. It's good when movies are good. I liked Cruella. Like it wasn't my favourite, but I liked it. Now what did the listeners prefer? What was their favourite movie of the year?
Starting point is 01:56:51 They refused to participate. Was it Spider-Man? Yes, at 40%. Probably by Dune at 21%. Oh, Dune. And then The Suicide Squad at 10%. I mean all of those are good. I can't really argue with any of that.
Starting point is 01:57:04 It would be wild if 40% of our listeners were like, Mortal Kombat was the best movie of this year. You know what else I liked about James Bond as well? They went places. I mean, they went places with the characters. They went there. He wore a corduroy three-button suit and he buttoned the top button. Is he allowed to do that?
Starting point is 01:57:22 Not really. Illegal. Right? Jail. Yeah. Not fashion jail, real jail. Real to do that? Not really. Illegal. Right? Jail. Yeah. Not fashion jail, real jail. Real jail for that. Put Daniel Craig in jail.
Starting point is 01:57:29 They should put him in jail. What are you trying to start a trend? Daniel Craig? I think he might be a little bit buttoning the top button. But he was also terrific. Yep. And the other part was that just seeing all these locations, it gave me the sense of those old James Bond movies
Starting point is 01:57:44 where you're seeing things you haven't seen before and beautiful, like, vistas and locales and... That's how I say locations. Just everything, like, also everything I like about Bond, it also did. Yeah. It's, I mean, it could have been a disaster. It should have been
Starting point is 01:57:59 a disaster. It should have been a disaster, especially there was so much time, as it were, to look forward to it. Look at that beautiful calendar. And to inevitably be let down by this. And also Daniel Craig didn't want to come back for another one. So when an actor doesn't want to come back for something, and then they do, a lot of the time they're absolutely phoning it in
Starting point is 01:58:22 and it's terrible. Clearly he has enough sway in the development of these movies to be like i'm only i will quit in the middle of this if it's not good you know so i didn't on the last one but this one i will yeah anyways i have to get the other bond in to do it yes most anticipated movie of 2022 do you want to read the list avatar 2 yep oh my god the batman black adam okay black panther wakanda forever that'll be interesting 2022. Do you want to read the list? Avatar 2. Yep. Oh, my God. The Batman. Black Adam. Black Panther, Wakanda Forever.
Starting point is 01:58:48 That'll be interesting. Death on the Nile. That'll be interesting. What are they going to cut out? Who are they going to cut out? At the end of the movie, it'll just be like, well, the killer's the one actor that's still left in this movie. It's Kenneth Branagh.
Starting point is 01:59:01 He did it. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. Fantastic Beasts, Secrets of Dumbledore. Get fucked. The Flash. Halloween Ends. I'm not against that. Let's see a real movie, please. Jurassic World Dominion.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Yeah. Lightyear. Buzz Lightyear, but for real. Loved that trailer. Morbius. No. Uh-oh. This is Mission Impossible 7.
Starting point is 01:59:24 That can't be right. It might be. I think it's 9. Isn't it 9? I Mission Impossible 7. That can't be right. It might be. I think it's 9. Isn't it 9? I have no idea. Fallout is 8, right? I don't know. Or is it 7 and 8?
Starting point is 01:59:31 No, this is absolutely right. It is? Okay. Yeah, Fallout was 6. Sorry, Av. It doesn't matter. So, yeah, 7 is coming in 22. Scream, Scream Reboot.
Starting point is 01:59:39 Oh, yeah. Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse Part 1. Yeah, cool. Thor, Love and Thunder. Yep. Top Gun Loser. Yep. Uncharted. Yep. The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talentse Part 1. Yeah, cool. Thor Love and Thunder. Yep. Top Gun Loser. Yep. Uncharted.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Yep. The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. That Nicolas Cage thing, yeah. Now, look, this also, to me, I'm not, is it like, I think this will be the best movie. This is the one that I'm like, I'm interested to see what this is. Yes. So, like, it might be like, what if Morbius is good?
Starting point is 02:00:01 But, like, this isn't me necessarily saying that. Like, more BS, am I right? Yeah. And by me necessarily saying that. Like more BS, am I right? Yeah. And by that I mean more bloody Sony, James, am I right? Not bullshit. Yeah, I know what you're like. Yeah, bloody Sony. Like part of me wants to say Avatar 2.
Starting point is 02:00:16 And I'll tell you why though because not looking forward to it at all, didn't really like the first one, but it's James Cameron and he has pretty much exclusively made giant movies that have been commercially and critically successful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even though he hasn't made a movie in 140,000 years. That's true. You cannot rule him out.
Starting point is 02:00:38 You can't say that he's, even though he came out and said Terminator Genesis is good and it's the best movie he's ever seen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You cannot rule it out. That's true. That's again, that's not me saying that it will be good, but I'm saying interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:51 What do you think? Ooh. Like even the Flash, like do I want to see Keaton again? But like everything else I'm like. You've seen him like four times in the last year.
Starting point is 02:01:02 That's true. Do I want to see Ezra Miller? Not really. Yeah. Ooh, great. Ooh I want to say Ezra Miller? Not really. Yeah. Ooh, great. Ooh, ooh. I mean, Spider-Verse. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Terrific stuff. I mean, the Batman definitely. Absolutely. Very excited to see that incarnation. It is the Batman again. Yes. I mean, look, let's put a pin in that one because that's pretty good. But also Thor Love and Thunder.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Yeah, haven't seen enough of it. I think it will be fun and silly. But also Mission Impossible 7. Yeah, what's he up to? How will he kill himself this time? Yeah, maybe for real this time. Yeah. What about Doctor Strange?
Starting point is 02:01:34 I think that's hiding a lot. Oh, yeah, right. When you say a lot, you mean more guest appearances. That's exactly what I mean. Yeah, no, I don't want to rely on a movie just being cameos. I think Lightyear looks really good. Yeah, right. Did you think Lightyear looked good?
Starting point is 02:01:51 I thought it looked okay. How do you? Yeah. I'm going to go with. Uncharted. Good choice. Good choice, Mason. No, I'm going to go with the Batman.
Starting point is 02:01:58 I'm going to go with the Batman. I want to see Pattinson do his thing. Yeah. And he's looking swole. I'm thinking, like, is this the movie that I want to see the most or is this the movie that I'm most intrigued about? You know, because most intrigued would probably be Avatar 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:11 And like Spider-Verse, the new one, yeah, I'm really looking forward to that, but I'm also like they'll probably nail that. Yeah, right. I don't know. Look, I want to see the Batman. I think maybe this is the one where he'll do some detecting. Yep. That's all I want. All right, well, I'm going this is the one where he'll do some detecting. Yep. That's all I want.
Starting point is 02:02:25 All right. Well, I'm going to say Avatar 2 out of pure morbid curiosity. Nice. And also Morbius out of Morbius curiosity. Okay, terrific. What if Morbius is terrific? Morbiosity. What if we come out and we go, wow, this Michael Dracula has really had a good day.
Starting point is 02:02:41 He's so buoyant. That's why he floats in the subway. That is so incredible. I loved it. I loved that. That taught us a valuable lesson about humanity or something. Let's so buoyant. That's why he floats in the subway. That's so incredible. I loved it. I loved that that taught us a valuable lesson about humanity or something. Let's see what people liked. The Batman, 40%. Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse, 20%.
Starting point is 02:02:54 Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, 14%. Also, James Cameron. What's he doing with new stuff in cinemas? You know what I mean? What am I witnessing? Is he going to fill up every cinema with water and get your own little submarine? Is he going to drown up every cinema with water and eat your own little submarine? Is he going to drown cinema goers? He's going to do that because it's the only way they'll learn.
Starting point is 02:03:11 We've also got the last one is the Listener's Choice Award for Best Podcast, and we've got his Suggestible, which is my less successful podcast that I do with my wife. We also did a yearly wrap-up, actually, which is up now if people want to check it out. Oh, I bet it's more intellectual. It's very intellectual, Mason. But it's all, what was your favourite movie?
Starting point is 02:03:27 It was the works of Marcel Proust. Did you listen? Yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah. It's books. The best movie of the year was the love of books and reading. It's like watching a movie in your mind. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:40 The best rap song, the works of William Shakespeare, the original rapper. That's what your episode was like. The whole thing. And both of us had our chairs around. Yeah. The best rap song that works with William Shakespeare, the original rapper. That's what your episode was like. The whole thing. And both of us had our chairs around. Yeah. Just, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Just dropping truth bombs. That's right. Anyway, it won at 100% suggestible. So that's really good. Good work. Good job. Thank you so much, everybody. It also didn't have an option to add.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Thank you for the indulgence that is this every single year. Yeah. Wow. Thank you, really, everybody who came to party with this. Do you know what I mean? This couldn't have been an easy thing to fill out. And what a party that would have been in real life. Like 3,000 people.
Starting point is 02:04:10 My goodness. Yeah. You know? Just like because that was – I mean you have to think about these I'd imagine probably a lot. Sure. Yeah. Or you just –
Starting point is 02:04:20 Yeah, you can do that too, can't you? Yeah, you just absolutely – If you have any thoughts, email them in. I've had a lot of thoughts. We'll talk about things we're going to email about in a second. Thank you again to Roar Collings for putting that list together as he does every year. That's right.
Starting point is 02:04:33 And thank you to Mason for remembering that one thing he contributes but didn't send it across to Roar Collings to put it in the thing. Also, I only thought of it today. Also, should we like maybe just keep that as a thing that you bring up? Yeah, maybe, if I remember, sure. Some years we'll have it, some years we won't. Fantastic. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:46 Do you know what it's time for then? It's time for what we're reading. Yep. What we're going to read. That's exactly what it's time for. Yeah. Man, I can't believe it's time for that already. That's right.
Starting point is 02:04:54 It is though. Uh-oh. It's unavailable. What's unavailable? That's not good. The internet. No, it's one of my computer drives has been disappearing. Oh.
Starting point is 02:05:05 And it's not here at the moment. Interesting. So, Collins, if you can put in that song, that would be great. Terrific. It's going to go in here. Yeah, right, right, right. But the show itself is just going to gangbusters. Oh, the show's fine.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Yeah, yeah, it's fine. That's terrific. I'm doing a thing. Westworld. He's going to put that in. He's going to put that in. He's going to put that in also, Fresh Westworld. What are you reading, Mason? Well, today I watched, because it's new on Stan,
Starting point is 02:05:31 as we mentioned, streaming service Stan. Yes. It's a show. In America it's going to be on HBO Max and it's going to be on BBC One in the UK. It's called The Tourist. Oh. It's got Jamie.
Starting point is 02:05:44 It's set in Australia. It's got Jamie. It's set in Australia. It's got Jamie Dornan. I know. Oh, I saw the trailer for this. Yeah. Yeah. So it's Jamie Dornan plays a man who is in a car accident and then he wakes up in hospital with no memory of who he is and why he is in Outback Australia.
Starting point is 02:05:59 So and why? Crime is the reason. Oh, no. Is he okay? He's doing crime. Is he just pretending to have no memory? No, he's definitely got no reason. Oh, no. Is he okay? He's doing crime. Is he just pretending to have no memory? No, he's definitely got no memory. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:06:08 But Jamie Dornan isn't very charming. Isn't? No, he is very charming. Okay. Very good cast. There's a woman named Danielle McDonald who I've not seen before in anything but she plays a sort of a small town cop who's like trying to do the right thing and she's getting muddled up on his crime as well.
Starting point is 02:06:25 Very good crime. Alex Demetriatus is in this. Oh, he hasn't been around. I mean, he's still been consistent. The Heartbreak Kid. Heartbreak Kid. And also, if you're a fan of Australian comedy, a couple of people make little guest appearances,
Starting point is 02:06:38 including Greg Larson, who people will know from the podcast The Grub and other things, or his famous character Mr. Oily. He's in it. He's got a substantial role. But you might also know comedian Brett Blake who is – I don't know Brett Blake. No, he's a very funny man. He's got a podcast as well called Flat Stick.
Starting point is 02:06:54 Yeah. And he's in it as well. He's got a little role in it as well. Am I in it? No. I mean I haven't seen every episode but I'm confident you are not in it. Well, I can't wait for you to get to episode 11. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:07:05 How many episodes are there? Six. Yeah, I can't wait for you to get to episode 11. Ooh. How many episodes are there? Six. Yeah, next season. It's terrific. Terrific. Now, as mentioned, I did read Watchbook of Boba Fett. Oh, yeah, I did too. I thought it was all right.
Starting point is 02:07:15 I thought I liked it. I thought it was all right. And you were like, I think you were less big on it than I was. I said it was a bit Arrow. Yeah. Because the first couple of seasons of Arrow, it's Arrow fighting crime in the big city, but then it's also flashbacks to how he got there.
Starting point is 02:07:28 He was on an island for a while. But also think about this. Go on. That first season of Arrow was pretty good. It was pretty good. I liked it. Yeah, there we go. So, yeah, as again, I did that Star Wars Explained thing
Starting point is 02:07:36 with Molly and Alex over at Star Wars Explained, the YouTube channel. We did a couple of hours on that. Anyway, also I've been watching a YouTuber which I've just discovered called FDSignifier and he does video essays ah, sorry, this stupid Steam. I have Steam and it opens up
Starting point is 02:07:52 because I reached out my computer, the thing reappeared anyway. And it's like, Steam's ready and I'm like, I never play, I never go into this. Stop opening all the time. Anyway, FDSignifier video essay creator on black movies and media. What was your favourite game of the year?
Starting point is 02:08:07 Was it on Steam? Well, I prefer... Books. Industrial Revolution. A book on the Industrial Revolution. Steam-powered things. That's what I like. That's very good.
Starting point is 02:08:15 Yeah, someone suggestible. Oh, look at us. We're all suggestible. He's a terrific video essayist. And he also, like, he recently didist and he also, like, he recently did a video breaking down, like, got BreadTube and how he got from, like, YouTube of the early days up into the modern day.
Starting point is 02:08:33 And BreadTube is, like, lefty. Yeah, but also how he's, like, there's a lot of white people doing BreadTube and I'm, like, that's a very good point, actually. So he obviously talks about, like, his experience as a black creator and in relation to other creators as well, but also in media. He's got a really terrific couple of episodes that go back to back, which are edgelord movies and the men who love them. So he looks at Joker and falling down and the messages that people take from them.
Starting point is 02:09:01 How easy it is to become the Joker. Yeah, exactly. But also the hype behind the Joker. It's a bit silly that people take from them and also, but also the hype. How easy it is to become the Joker. Yeah, exactly. But also like the hype behind the Joker. No, it's like it's a bit silly that people are like, this is going to cause like, you know, mass chaos and it's, you know, and et cetera. But he also talks about the impossible white man trope, which is basically like he got the idea from Christopher Nolan films
Starting point is 02:09:16 and it's also you see it in like, you know, John Wick movies and it's like everyday looking dudes. Not always, not always white dudes and he talks about that and how like they look like, you know, just anybody. But then they're in a situation, it's like everyday looking dudes, not always, not always white dudes, and he talks about that, and how like they look like, you know, just anybody, but then they're in a situation that's like, oh, actually, they've got skills. This is amazing. And he also talks about how the evolution of that
Starting point is 02:09:33 and how it becomes, how it's turned into older white men because the audience has aged up with it. Yeah, right. So it starts with Bruce Willis in the 80s, but now we're accepting of like an 80-year-old man beating up, you know, whatever. Yeah. And it's just fascinating and really interesting and I'm really glad I came across it.
Starting point is 02:09:52 So check out FD Signifier if you can, which you can because you've got YouTube. I do have YouTube and I love YouTube. Yeah. I actually just remembered I also watched, there's a, I watched a show, a movie on Amazon called The Protege, which is, remember a couple of- Oh, that's the Keaton-
Starting point is 02:10:04 Yeah, remember a couple of months ago I talked about that movie Kate, which is about a woman, she's found as a little girl and she's sort of raised to be a killer and then there's betrayal on all sides and action and whatever. Protege, it's exactly the same movie except it's got Maggie Q and Michael Keaton and Samuel L. Jackson. Good? Pretty good.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Pretty good is pretty good. It was pretty good. Excellent. Is it time to move on to the next segment of the show? Nearly. It's nearly time, is it? Nearly time. I'm just going to see if anything,
Starting point is 02:10:31 anything exciting to watch, anything funny, funny. Mason, is there or is there not something exciting that you're watching? No, there's nothing exciting. Okay. There's nothing exciting and there never will be. Okay, fair enough. All right, but it's time for Letters. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:44 The classic one was Letters, oh, oh letters, we love you, some letters, they're only a day away. We know they're here right now, we're going to do letters. This is the segment of the show where we go, hey, send us an email at weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com if you've got something to say. Which we call letters. We call it letters. But they're not actually letters.
Starting point is 02:11:05 No, it's not a physical letter. It's time to come clean. 2022, the year of coming clean. We say letters. Yep. They're not by any, by some definitions I guess they're letters. I'm going to keep some secrets if you don't mind in 2022. I'm not going to come clean of everything.
Starting point is 02:11:17 Okay. 2022, the year of doing whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah, nice. No apologies. No apologies. Never back down. Also, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter. That's right. If you do want to do that. Yeah. Yeah, nice. No apologies. No apologies. Never backed out. Also, hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:11:25 That's right. If you do want to do that. Yeah. To reach us on Twitter. What have you got in terms of letters, Mason? This is from Adam Fish. Adam Fish. Great name.
Starting point is 02:11:33 I like that. I think. P-H-I-S-H? F-I-S-H. P-H-I-S-H? Standard spelling. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:40 Yeah, yeah. He's not, he wasn't the inspiration for the band Fish. Yep. Nor was he named after the band Fish. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wasn't the inspiration for the band Fish, nor was he named after the band Fish. Okay. Maybe his parents didn't know that the band was spelled that way. Maybe that's true because they'd only heard them on Fish FM. Fish FM.
Starting point is 02:11:56 Exclusive Fish radio station. Correct. Greetings from the UK. Hello. Where Fish is not that popular, I would imagine. I mean, unless it's paired with chips obviously just wanted to say thank you for making my walks to work more bearable
Starting point is 02:12:10 not a movie or comic question but I work in a pub and was wondering if Australians really don't drink Fosters, every British drinker says you don't but a real life Aussie has never confirmed this Piers Canabie, it's from Adam Piers Canabie, the official Instagram toy photographer of the show his handle is if underscore toys underscore talk.
Starting point is 02:12:25 I love those toys. Oh, and Merry Christmas from the UK. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. I love sometimes people will do like a Transformers transform. Yeah. Or they'll line up all the new Transformers.
Starting point is 02:12:36 They've got all the Galvatrons or something, and they're like, here's every Galvatron. You like seeing every Galvatron, don't you? Yes. Well, I'm just looking at this now. Good stuff, man. Good stuff. People should check it out. He does that thing with like particle effects, you, don't you? Yes. Well, I'm just looking at this now. Good stuff, man. Good stuff. People should check it out.
Starting point is 02:12:46 He does that thing with like particle effects, you know what I mean? Oh. And like smoke, so it gives it like depth and like definition and stuff. Nice. Really good. Oh. Cool. But to answer your question, we don't drink Fosters, no.
Starting point is 02:12:57 No. It's dog shit. No, isn't it? It's fine. Look, most beers, whatever. I think it's a different, you can get Fosters in other countries, but it's like a different formulation. It's something else. I wouldn't, like, not drink it.
Starting point is 02:13:10 But if you're at a bar and somebody – like, you know, you're splitting jugs and whatever. It's a jug of beer. Yeah, that's what we say in Australia. And somebody walked over and was like, I got a Fosters. They would be like, why did you get that? Why did you do that? Yeah, and not like –
Starting point is 02:13:22 Why you were announcing it proudly also. What's going on there? Are you getting it as a joke? Is that what? You might get a? Why did you do that? Yeah. And not like. Why you were announcing it proudly also. Yeah. What's going on there? Are you getting it as a joke? Is that what? You might get a furphy or a VB. Yeah. Depending where you are, what state you're in. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Some places do a twoies. You'd get a book. I'd get a book. That's your favourite beer on Suggestible, isn't it? Reading a book. What's the book on though, Mason? The Fermentation Process. Oh, is it? Okay. An early farming, agriculture. Wow. Yeah. It could be quite interesting. It wasn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:51 Just kidding. I loved books. Yeah. So that answers that question. Good stuff. This is from Quinton PhD, who says, hashtag weekly planet pod. Dear the weekly planet, I hope the holidays were good for both of you. They were, I think. I'm writing in to see if you could get a review for The Wheel of Time. It's a wonderful show. If it helps, I've tricked six people into listening to the pod and will continue to
Starting point is 02:14:15 do so regardless if you choose not to. I started The Wheel of Time. Did you? I enjoy it. I've been enjoying it, but I have not finished The Wheel of Time. How many episodes are you in? Like four, maybe. Have you been watching it, but I have not finished the Wheel of Time. How many episodes are you in? Like four maybe. Oh. Yeah. Have you been watching it?
Starting point is 02:14:26 No, not yet. How is the production value? It is lower than A Lord of the Rings. Right. But higher than say. So it's lower than a billion dollar television show. No, sorry. I meant to say Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 02:14:37 Okay, right. But it's slightly above. Do you ever see the Shannara Chronicles? No. It's when you watch that show. Okay, I'll watch the Shannara Chronicles. When you watch that show. When I watch the Shannara Chronicles. You. It's when you watch that show. Okay, I'll watch the Shannara Chronicles. When I watch the Shannara Chronicles. You'll get a good idea of the budget. Terrific. Yeah. Maybe a
Starting point is 02:14:50 bit better than that. But no, it doesn't look bad by any account. Yeah. It looks quite good. But no, I plan to get around to it. But no immediate plans. Yeah, look, I'll watch the first couple. This week I'll watch... It's got Rosamund Pike. I'll like Rosamund Pike. Okay, I'll watch an episode of The Wheel of Time. The Wheel of Time. Wheel of Time. Wheel of Time. They're. Okay, I'll watch an episode of The Wheel of Time.
Starting point is 02:15:06 The Wheel of Time. Wheel of Time. Wheel of Time. They're always talking about we've got to break the Wheel of Time. Whoa. And I'm like, isn't this Game of Thrones? Isn't this Game of Thrones? They're like, spin the Wheel of Time and then pick a letter.
Starting point is 02:15:15 Yeah. Might be before Game of Thrones or after. I don't know. I haven't thought about it. Mason, what's next? This is an email from Leo. Regional dispute. Okay. Hi there, James and Mason.
Starting point is 02:15:24 I've been listening to the show since 2014. How time flies. My name's Leo and I'm from Houston, Texas. We have a city rivalry with Dallas and I want you to officially decide which city is better once and for all. Dallas or Houston? Yes. Wow. Which one has the cowboy? Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 02:15:40 Well, he's written here. And the Houston have the Rockets, correct? Houston have the Rockets because they have Houston is home of NASA. It's the Rockets. And the Houston have the Rockets, correct? Houston have the Rockets because they have, Houston is home of NASA. It's the Rockets. And the largest medical center in the world, which includes one of the best cancer centers that is helping fight cancer. But don't let that affect your decision. We won't let it affect it.
Starting point is 02:15:54 We've scratched that off. I don't care about any of that. We don't care. We just said the Rockets or the. And a Rocket. Nuggets. Denver Nuggets. A Rocket could kill a Cowboy.
Starting point is 02:16:03 That's very true. Yeah. Okay, so Houston. So that's one for Rock. Canva Nuggets. A rocket could kill a cowboy. That's very true. Yeah. Okay, so that's one for Houston. A cowboy could ride to the rocket, but to what end? Dr. Strangelove. To, like, destroy its own city? Yeah. It's not a city it's going to hit anyway, regardless.
Starting point is 02:16:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think? They both have barbecue. Yeah. Like a Texas barbecue, so that's good. Okay. You're not a fan? No, I just don't think it's like people are always like,
Starting point is 02:16:25 we've got barbecue. It's like, yeah, everyone has barbecue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one cares. Okay. I mean, Houston does have NASA. Yep. But Dallas has the TV show Dallas.
Starting point is 02:16:35 And on Dallas, remember that some guy died or something on Dallas? J.E.J.R. And then later he woke up and it's like, oh, it was all a dream. Like that was the whole. He didn't get shot? He didn't get shot, it turned out, because they just brought the actor back and it was like, oh, it was all a dream. Like that was the whole. He didn't get shot? He didn't get shot, it turned out, because they just brought the actor back and it was like, oh, it was all a dream. So that's the origin of the trope.
Starting point is 02:16:51 Like if you painted yourself. This is the origin of if you're writing a TV show and you've painted yourself into a corner, you can just say it was all a dream. Like Dallas is the home of the incredibly lazy retcon, which I think gives it an edge. Okay, but also rockets. Rockets are pretty good, actually. I mean, if that man had been shot by a rocket,
Starting point is 02:17:11 I'd still say it was a dream. That's true. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, you can't. Rockets, the only thing that can defeat rockets are dreams, you know, which I believe is Dallas's, that's their state motto. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:24 The state of Dallas. And you know what? NASA did hire all those Nazis. That's their state motto. Yeah, yeah. The state of Dallas. And you know what? NASA did hire all those Nazis. That's true. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they were like, we're Nazis. And NASA was like, yeah, we know.
Starting point is 02:17:33 We like that. We like that. Yeah. Yeah. We like that here in Houston, Texas. So, you know. What do we choose? Dallas.
Starting point is 02:17:42 Seems that way, doesn't it? And because of that show. Yeah, yeah. And they brought it back recently. They did somehow, doesn't it? And because of that show. Yeah, yeah. And they brought it back recently. They did somehow, yeah. Yeah, and then I think that guy died in real life. Somehow Dallas has returned. I don't think that's the answer he wanted.
Starting point is 02:17:54 No, it's the opposite in a way. In a way, in pitching it to me as if he wanted me to choose something, I've just found a way to justify choosing the other thing. Cancer, though. Yeah. Wait, though. Yeah. Wait, Cancer Center for good? But I don't think Dallas is for cancer. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:18:10 I don't really. I don't know, to be honest. Anyway, something to think about. It's from Ian Jackson. It says, hashtag weekly platypod. How about including the game is over and the end of year awards? You're too late, Ian Jackson. Book ending the game is on, the one that goes to a movie that's full of fan service
Starting point is 02:18:25 and calls back to past movies in the franchise, which are also completing an arc. So I guess you could say Spider-Man No Way Home. You could say Ghostbusters Afterlife. You could say The Matrix. What else was a callback movie this year? Most of them. Let me check the list.
Starting point is 02:18:40 But completing an arc, you know what I mean? Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, they're more satisfying. I would say probably Spider-Man completed a big arc know what I mean? Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, they're more satisfying, aren't they? I would say probably Spider-Man completed a big arc, didn't he? Yeah, sure did. Interesting. Actually, Ghostbusters completed a hell of an arc, didn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:52 And they went no more Ghostbusters. Yeah, that was the Logan, I think, of the Ghostbusters franchise. Except it wasn't as good by quite a long way. Oh, I see what you're saying there. It's not that I don't like Ghostbusters, Mason. I think it's that you hate Ghostbusters. It's stronger than dislike, I think. You're saying there. It's not that I don't like Ghostbusters, Mason. I think it's that you hate Ghostbusters. It's stronger than dislike, I think. You might be right.
Starting point is 02:19:09 You got any more letters? No, that's every letter. Then that's the show for now. Final episode of the year. That's right, folks. That's right, we're not coming back. Yeah. We're back for 2022, though.
Starting point is 02:19:18 I was just looking at when we are coming back. That's right. We're looking at when we're coming back. It'll either be the 24th or the 31st. Okay. And I think it might be the 31st. Okay. And then we're going to squeak.
Starting point is 02:19:28 So we're going to squeak in a Snake Eyes review because obviously we didn't get to it. And then we're going to do. We're going to squeak the snake. That's right. That's what we say. And then guess what comes out the next week straight up? Mr. Michael Morbius himself. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 02:19:41 I think so at least anyway. Wow. Or maybe Uncharted's out then. So some pile of crap is what you're saying. Two so so at least anyway. Wow. Or maybe Uncharted's out then. So some pile of crap is what you're saying. Two sody piles of crap. Wow. Wait, Uncharted is in February 17th. I have more faith in Uncharted for sure.
Starting point is 02:19:54 Yeah. But that's probably just because I like one of the actors anymore. Yeah, that's good to say. As opposed to the other one where I like none of them. Oh, wow. Actually, straight out the gate, we're doing Morbius. Nice. Because it's the 28th of January.
Starting point is 02:20:06 Oh, my goodness. Yeah. That's incredible. So I guess we'll do a Morbius episode and then we might do an episode on like, we can do a Morbius episode and then once that's out of the way, we can do an episode on the movies we're excited for in 2022. So that works out perfectly. I mean, we kind of covered this also already.
Starting point is 02:20:22 But anyway, what else, Mason? Folks, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for the year 2021. I'm glad so many people stuck around. It's very exciting. I'm glad a lot of you are still alive. Yeah, it's good, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:32 It's good for us metrics-wise also. Oh, definitely, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dead people very rarely hit that repeat button. You're not wrong. They just cycle through old episodes. So that's actually really good for us. Folks, thank you for listening and subscribing and telling a friend
Starting point is 02:20:46 or, in fact, lying to your friends to get them to listen to the podcast or leaving a nice review, which you can do on any platform, including now Spotify, as previously mentioned. James, you got any five-star reviews? I've got a couple here, five stars. You can do it in-app. Like Mason said, it's from Spurred and 1109. It says, good slash bad.
Starting point is 02:21:02 Giving five stars because they told me to. Don't even like it. Or it's an amazing podcast that I've been listening to consistently for years. One of those two. Ooh. I've got another one here from Speed Blanket who says, five stars? Best podcast, maybe, but also yes. Nice.
Starting point is 02:21:16 I'm what you call an oddball, a lame duck, if you will. I don't like most podcasts, but The Weekly Planet is an exception. It ticks all the boxes. Tick. 100% accurate and reliable information. Tick. Banter about James' attraction to Lullabunny. True.
Starting point is 02:21:30 Tick. Not true. Cross, if anything. Talk about sandwiches. The big kind. Tick. Defeating wizards with half a brick. And most importantly, tick.
Starting point is 02:21:39 Westworld, if you're looking for a good laugh, give it a go. Or if you don't like to laugh, maybe listen to another podcast. You idiot. There we go. Or if you don't like to laugh, maybe listen to another podcast. You idiot. There we go. That's terrific. Two beautiful reviews. Now, of course, you can leave a review of less than five stars, but we will never read it out.
Starting point is 02:21:51 No, exactly. But I tell you what. Don't waste your fucking breath. Over on Spotify, newly reviewable over there, we've got 2,000 reviews, average of five stars. Excellent. Doing pretty good. We're actually looking to acquire a $100 million Spotify deal
Starting point is 02:22:05 to go there exclusively. Oh, nice. We will lessen the platform that this is available on, but also we'll have $100 million. We don't give a shit. That's right. Could any of you say anything else other than that? No.
Starting point is 02:22:17 No. All I'm saying is who wouldn't take $100 million? Right? I'm not even kidding. Of course I would. I'd rather take books quite frankly you can't need a book mason comfortably that's actually very true uh folks uh if you want to get into contact with us you can go to weekly planet pod at gmail at facebook at twitter at
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Starting point is 02:23:59 for all the musical themes. Hope everybody had a great Christmas and New Year's. Me too, actually. Right? I really hope so. Yeah. Safe, good, fun family times. Safe, good, fun family times.
Starting point is 02:24:09 Don't think about how Spider-Man No Way Home is probably more responsible for COVID spread than the studios are letting on. Don't think about that. What a thing to end the year on, James. I mean, it's doing very well somehow still. Yeah, it's great. No, stay safe, though. Obviously, if you can, get vaccinated.
Starting point is 02:24:30 Don't have me saying you won't because that's, you know. That's fine if you want to do that. That's the problem. You love that too much. I do love it too much. Yeah. But, yeah, and most of all, thank you everybody so much for listening to this. Yeah. I say this too much probably, but I am incredibly
Starting point is 02:24:46 grateful that this is my job. Not only do I enjoy doing it, I get so much time with my family, which I would otherwise not have if I was a teacher. And more time with me! And more time with Mason also. But also, thank you so much, Mason, for everything you do. We did it again, James. You're
Starting point is 02:25:02 very welcome. You're a wonderful co-host. Thank you. And I can't believe that you're quitting the show. But that's your prerogative. Yep. Again, huge thank you to Raw Collings who edits these every week in addition to so many things behind the scenes. Also, huge thanks to Ben,
Starting point is 02:25:18 to Lawrence, to Matthew, to Mitch for editing videos, to Maisie, to Marty, to Mason, Mason, that's you, to Fidel, to Mitch for editing videos, to Maisie, to Marty, to Mason, Mason, that's you, to Fidel, to Sarabi, who are doing all that stuff on the admin stuff as well. Just like this is not a one-person operation, and, of course, my wife also who does so many things also.
Starting point is 02:25:36 You thought it was a one-person operation. Yeah. Who do you think isn't real? Tell us. On this two-person podcast. Tell us what's going on. Yeah. So, yeah, believe it or not, there's more people involved in this than there probably should be.
Starting point is 02:25:48 There's more people involved than there is stars in the sky. Like it should be better if there's that many people is all I'm saying. No, I think it's nice. We all have a pretty smooth ride, not doing much. Well, that is true. Yeah. All right. Thanks, everybody.
Starting point is 02:25:59 Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you in a few weeks. For Morbius. Oh, yeah, watch Morbius. I mean, if you have time yeah number one priority watch Snake Eyes
Starting point is 02:26:07 yeah if you haven't already but if you watch Snake Eyes yeah also watch Morbius I mean I might even watch I'll squeak in another
Starting point is 02:26:14 Snake Eyes viewing squeak that snake once again squeak that snake everybody that's our new catchphrase for 2022 that's the new sign off
Starting point is 02:26:21 squeak that snake I like it me too goodbye everyone we'll see you very soon bye this podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network So that's the new sign-off. Squeak, dad, snake. I like it. Me too. Goodbye, everyone. Also grab a nap. We'll see you very soon. Bye. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network.
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