The Weekly Planet - 424 The Batman!

Episode Date: March 7, 2022

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. This episode is brought to you by HelloFresh. Why, hello, Fresh. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me is, as always, is always, and my co-host, Nick Mason. Hello.

Thank you. It's great to be here. Hello, James. Hello. Hello. So tell me, Mason, has it been a big week? I trimmed my beard a bit. Wow.

Right? That's what the people want, right? That beard-related news. Well, you told me before the show that you went to slightly even it up and then you just kept cutting and cutting, and you seemed immensely unhappy with it. Yeah, I took the bottom of my jaw off. Just kept going. This is very difficult.

Oh, no. Yeah, I did that thing where I do the, I'm like, this seems a little uneven, and I trimmed it. And I'm like, was it uneven? Yeah. Or was it just the angle? Because now it is very uneven. So now I'm going to have to do the other side.

Then I did that, and I'm like, oh, no, it's worse, I think, or better. I just keep going. Keep going. Keep going until you hit the face. That's right. Yeah, there you go. Big week this week, Mason. That's bloody.

Is that what Anthony Starr said? Keep going until you hit the face. Anthony Starr, what are you up to? You silly goose. Stop doing the things that you were doing. Stop punching people and then getting away with it because you can pay to get out of it in Spain or whatever.

And you never yell like don't or some variation on it. Allegedly like don't you know who I am or you'll be sorry because of who. Like come on. Yeah, right. It's lame, Mason. I'm going to say it. It's lame. We've been renewed for season three.

Don't you know that? Anyways, big week. There's already season four? Yeah, what are we up to? We already have a season three, don't you know that? Anyways, big week. There's already season four? Yeah, what are we up to? We already have a season three. I don't know, I'm drunk in Spain. There's that new show, like the animated one, which is apparently very good.

Diabolical, yeah. Which I have yet to watch. Maybe we'll talk about it a bit later. I haven't seen the trailer for that. How is that different from the regular show besides being animated? I think it's different animation studios and it's like little vignettes, I believe. So I wonder, is it based on the show or is it based on the comic style?

It's the show. But I think some of the art style might be also the comic as well. Oh, I think maybe I do know that in the comic books, one of the characters is meant to look a lot like Simon Pegg. Oh, that's true. I think maybe he looks like Simon Pegg in some of the shorts. I think that's the thing that I know. That's the thing that I know.

That's how they get you. That's how they get you. That's how they get you. That's how they got everybody on board. That's right. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, it is, of course, the Batman week. There are time codes that Collings, who edits this, puts in if you do want to jump ahead to just that review,

which is absolutely fine. But, of course. The main event. The main event. The main course. We've got news leading up. We've got some release dates that have been shifted in Russia. We've got some Netflix Marvel news. We've got some release dates that have been shifted in russia we've got uh some netflix marvel news we've got some alien news trailers ahoy uh futurama news i am legend

news and then of course straight into bat not straight into and then after those after an interminable amount of time we will be talking about batman so let's kick things off with uh what i said about the russia thing mason a batman do you think it'll be a about Batman. So let's kick things off with what I said about the Russia thing, Mason. A Batman? Do you think it'll be a bigger movie event if it was called A Batman? Not The Batman. A Batman? Indefinite article.

A Batman? What do you think? A Batman? Sure, yes. Yeah, maybe. I mean, they're running out of titles, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just thugs on the street.

They see him in the corner and they're like, a Batman? A bat? And he's like, no. And they're like, well, we assume there's more of you. He's like, no, no, I'm taking all the credit for this. I'm the Batman. I'm the bike. I get around everywhere.

I'm moving and shaking. Come on, man. I want some credit for the legwork I put in to get here. I hit everybody with my signature punches. That's right. How could you not know it's me, the Batman? So, yeah, obviously I'm sure everybody in the world knows this, but, yes, there is a conflict in Ukraine at the moment

because Russia invaded because that's, I don't know why, because they're a bunch of fucking idiots anyways, one man in particular. But, you know, I'm sure there are other people in support of it. Look, I'm not talking about political stuff, Mason. I understand, sure. But I am. But what's basically happening is a bunch of it. Look, I'm not talking about political stuff, Mason. I understand, sure. Well, I am, but what's basically happening is a bunch of major movie studios, including Disney in turning red,

including Warner Brothers and the Batman, they are removing their movies from scheduled release dates. Sony is also removing Morbius, but if they bloody wanted to bloody really punish the rush of the bloody release. The movie Morbius. They put it out. I bloody really punish the Russians, they'd bloody release. The movie Morbius. They'd put it out. I haven't seen it yet. Maybe it's amazing, but that's a joke that I'm doing.

That's very good. Thank you. So, yeah, that's not surprising, and obviously I think this is also, after they, you know, most countries in the world who have any kind of relationship with Russia are putting sanctions in place and all these kinds of things, this is like the bare minimum you can do. Sure, yeah. So it's not surprising at all. Yeah.

Anyways, do you have any opinions on anything political just while we're in the zone? I always forget bin night, like when bin night is. Yeah. I think maybe they should send around an alert. Oh, really? On to your text message or something. That's a very good idea, actually.

And we've got to get a bin night alert. Do you have a fridge calendar? Do you have a fridge calendar, Mason? Yeah. What about personal responsibility? What about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? I don't like that. Also, I put my boots in the bin.

No. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know how often, like, you won't put the bin out and then the following week or weeks, because recycling's every two weeks, I assume. No, no, somebody else puts the bin out. then the following week or weeks because recycling is every two weeks? No, no. Somebody else puts the bin out.

Puts your bin out? Yeah, there's a guy. I don't know. Is there really? Apparently. In your building? Yes. What?

Can he come to my house? Yeah. I'll ask him. I'm not going to pay him. Okay, right. But I still want that. Well, I assume he does it for the joy of it. So he probably won't want money.

Are you in a building where if your bin is full, you're just like, I'm going to chuck this in this other bin here. Like if you've got a big broken. James, no. You don't do that? If you've got like a big broken bicycle, you just put it in somebody else's bin? I guess I could, yeah. Okay, cool.

Fine, I can get rid of my broken bicycle. I also have a broken bicycle that if I could give to you as well. Sure. I'll ask the guy. Anyway. Anyway, that's political Sure. I'll ask the guy. Anyway. Anyway, that's political talk. That's good, though. I think that's a great stance to take and I'm all for it.

So Netflix and Marvel, we've talked about what's going to happen with those shows in particular, like other places in the world except for the US, we're getting them on Star. What about Russia? I don't think they're getting it, Mason. I'm not sure about the specifics. Okay, sure. But we didn't know what was happening in the US because they don't have Star. They've Russia? I don't think they're getting it, Mason. I'm not sure about the specifics. Okay, sure. But we didn't

know what was happening in the US because they don't have Star. They've got Hulu. So I was like, is it going to Hulu? What's happening? So they are coming to Disney Plus on March 16th and there's going to be some kind of updated parent control situation if you do want to access them. Because there's sometimes some swears and some shoots

in those movies and shows. They're shows, aren't they? They are swears and shoots. And I think I saw they released a trailer, but it was like everybody except Iron Fist, like in The Defenders. You just didn't get a look in, didn't get a gig, mate. But, I mean, there's worse Marvel stuff on Disney, do you know what I mean? Yeah, there sure is.

In humans. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, I guess that didn't get a trailer though, did it? No, it sure didn't. So that's exciting. So there you go. So that thing that maybe some people were concerned about has been resolved. And about

damn time, I should say. If like me, you hadn't watched them in a very long time, and then it was announced they were being removed, and then you got you were like, this is I gotta get on this. Gotta get on this, don't worry about it. But then, yeah, but then they said. I've got to get on this. I've got to get on this. Don't worry about it. But then, yeah, but then they said – I've got 100 other things that I need to watch that are fresh and new

that I haven't seen before. Exactly. But I've got to get on this real quick. Don't worry about it. Don't even worry about it. You don't have to watch it now. Here's some news via Hollywood Reporter. Oh, some news I can use.

I think so, definitely. Fede Alvarez, which is I think how you say his name, he's going to write and direct the new Alien movie for Hulu. Now, if you don't know who he is, he directed Don't Breathe, 2016. He didn't do the sequel. That's about the blind man. Yeah, the blind guy who's the dude from Avatar. Yes.

Yeah, and he's like a serial killer. Oh, so there's an Alien, James Cameron. Very good. There's a link there somehow. I mean, James Cameron only directed one Alien movie. That's true. But there is that link that you've made. Oh, do you think, James,

they're going to get political in this? Do you think they're going to... Like corporations in the light? Yeah, yeah. Do you think they're going to be like, oh, corporations are bad in this one? I hope not. Oh, my goodness, getting political in these Alien movies.

Yeah, they should just be about aliens killing Paul Reiser. Thank you. Yeah. So Evil Dead also, he also did the Evil Dead reboot from 2013. The movie, not the show. Yes. Okay. Which is, I don't know if you've seen that movie.

It's pretty good. I don't think I saw it, no. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's basically the first one, but it's way gorier and updated. And I really like it. And it's generally, like, also as a reboot, people like it. Also, it might be a sequel. Well, the only thing i know about it ash is in at the end we've talked about this every day yeah anyway ask me what it's about alien no this new alien new aliens yeah no no it's the same aliens okay great you're asking me what it's about oh you wanted me to ask

further things ask me what it's about james what's what's it about i've got a quote here wait you haven't you written a joke if you're in a funny no i've got it it's it's literally an exact quote okay great a really good story with a bunch of characters you haven't seen before whoa nice i love it not a joke i love it so it's not the could we bring back some of the previous characters from previous movies we loved including ones played by actors who have since died can we do that that with CGI that's barely adequate? Yes. And it's on Hulu, so it has to be PG-13. Bring him back.

Bill Paxton. Bring him back. Even he died also in the movies and real life. Well, so did Ian Holm. Yeah, but he's a robot. Oh, I see. And they probably scanned him for The Hobbit. It's fine.

Well, they could scan bloody Hicks and he could bring him back. They never scanned Hicks, Mason. They probably scanned him. They probably did some sort of weird like unisex crew scan where everybody's nude and they scanned him. You know, there's future societies, they're all nude in the shower room and they probably scanned him. Now he's a robot as well.

You need a real-life scan. I'm talking about on 50. Probably have one. No, I would say not. But also they probably didn't have a scan of what harold ramus might have looked like it's true if he looked like egon spangler in the modern day and they did that yeah so yeah bring back the scanners of the 80s there we go so good um look i i still am interested in seeing like can we do a can we do alien 3? Yeah. Like properly again or whatever. Oh, yeah. Well, then you'd need Hicks.

Yes, you would need. And he's alive. Yes. So that's. And that nearly happened. The guy who was doing Elysium was going to do it at one point. Michael Biehn is alive, yeah. Yeah, he's alive.

I was thinking, what's Hudson? Bill Paxton is Hudson. He's Hudson Hawk. Okay, right. So there you go. Where do you think. There's also a TV series of Alien coming out as well. Is there?

Also on Hulu? Oh, the guy who did Legion. Legion, that's right. That should be pretty good. So what era do you think this is set in? Oh, good question. Do you think it's because we've had, obviously we've had. Depends what counts.

Because Alien 4 is set like 200 years after 3 maybe. Yeah, or something, yeah, right. And I think maybe they just might go 3 and 4 don't count. Well, this might be because we are in an era of forget everything except the first couple. I reckon they could very well do this is a sequel to Aliens. Or, I mean, like Isolation, you could set it any time really. I guess you also could and you could also say, okay, well, okay,

maybe this part of the universe, Alien 4, is happening and it's very futuristic-y, but maybe in this corner of the galaxy they're still, you know, working on those rust bucket old ships so aesthetically it's the same as Aliens or whatever. Aesthetically it looks like a Kmart. That's right. So that's what's happened here. Did you know there are only four Kmarts left in the US? I did hear that and I was like, is that a joke that's what's happened here. Did you know there are only four K-Mart's left in the US?

I did hear that. And I was like, is that a joke that's going to play? Could I have said Walmart? You might have said Walmart. But I wanted to go more international. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I figured people still know what K-Mart is, even if there's only four left.

Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's. I feel our audiences are all coastal elites, so they would know what a Trader Joe's is. I hope not. If you're a coastal elite, I'm not interested. You get out of here. Go back to your, I don't know, your racks of

beans, whatever they sell at Trader Joe's. Okay, this new alien will be set in an Outback Steakhouse. Perfect. So now all Americans and all Australians can relate to that. And that's everybody who listens to this show. That's right. That's my understanding of it. I guess my, so like, for real, James, for real. No mucking around. Stop mucking around. Like my real quote that you thought was going to be a joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my understanding of it. I guess my, so like for real, James, for real. No mucking around.

Stop mucking around. Like my real quote that you thought was going to be a joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the realest thing ever. A really good story with a bunch of characters. Yeah, because Alien Isolation is based around, it's a sort of a sequel and a reboot in the sense that it's Ellen, wait, it's Ripley's daughter.

Yeah, it's a sequel to Alien, but it's before Aliens. So she's looking for her mother who's frozen in space. And she's basically the same character and it's basically Alien again. Yes. I never finished it. Did you finish it? No, I never finished it. Yeah, but, you know, people like it.

People do like it. I think I've talked about why I didn't finish it because I got the gun and it's like you can't use the gun. Right, yes. You're not supposed to have the gun yet. Yeah, right. What am I doing? Okay, well then I guess this is the last alien-based question.

Okay. Do you think there's going to be one alien or a million trillion aliens? Wow. Or somewhere in the middle? I think somewhere in the middle. I think they'll be like, what's the sweet spot of this? Yeah. Probably aliens.

Sure. And I don't necessarily know what that's going to look like in a Trader Joe's. Sure, yeah. But I think it's like a million billion is like. It's too many. Who cares? Yeah, yeah, that's true. And they're like very disposable, you know what I mean?

Whereas I think Aliens hit the perfect amount of like there's a lot but they can't get in so you only see like eight at a time maybe. Yeah, right, yeah. I think they only had like four suits or whatever. Yeah. Because I think they've had a lot of trouble in the sequels of like, what's the balance of like, okay, the first one was scary because there was only one and you didn't know anything about it

and the second one was a cool action movie. But in the later ones, in three they had to be like, okay, what if we went back to one again? Is that interesting? And then in four they were like. It could be. Yeah. In four they were like, ah, a million, billion again, I don't know.

Yeah. And then it's like, it's this trade-off of like. And then alien predator. Yeah, and once they become kind of disposable foot soldiers. Yeah. It's not as exciting anymore, you know. I agree. Do you think they'll ever do a smart alien?

Smalian. Yeah, Smalian. Do you think they'll ever do a Smalian? Yeah, I mean, they are, aren't they? I mean, the Queen's smart. I mean more of like a smart enough to communicate with humans. Because it's got a chip, Mason. Because it's got a chip in it, yes.

They put a chip on it. They're like, we're going to use these to man registers. That's right. At Trader Joe's. They recommend things at Trader Joe's. One of them scratched the chip out and it's killing everybody at the Trader Joe's. Who's going to recommend the chipotle chilli sauce?

We should have. It's handmade. We should have gone with automatic tellers. Yeah. We were trying to do the right thing. But then we figured people would steal and then we can trick, we've got to convince them that they can't steal, so we put the aliens in.

Oh, no. Anyway, lock the doors. We'll just let this sort itself out. Great stuff. Anyways, trailers ahoy. That's right. This is the segment of the show where we go, what trailer's happening, right?

When are they happening? What trailer's happening, we say. That's what we say. We segment of the show where we go, what trailer's happening? Right. When are they happening? What trailer's happening, we say. That's what we say. We've got a couple this week. We've got Bullet Train, which is Bradley Pitt. He's back and he's like, I do a movie every three years and I'm ready to do one. What's my process for selecting a script?

I don't know. Yeah. You tell me. Please. Sometimes I just wake up and I'm doing a movie. I don't know. This is directed by David Leitch. L-E-I-T-C-H.

He did Deadpool 2. He also did, I think, Atomic Blonde. And maybe he did one of the Fast and Furiouses, but I don't know. This does feel like a sort of, this feels like somewhere smack in the middle between Deadpool 2 and Atomic Blonde. Oh, he did Hobbs and Shaw. Boom. I wouldn't say that's his fault, though.

Well, he had the constraints of two indestructible men who have to somehow have a compelling narrative around them. He was also an uncredited director on the first John Wick, so he's done really good stuff. Okay. Anyways, what if Brad Pitt looked like a goofy knockabout guy in a bucket hat and a shirt, and by the end he's in a singlet and his hair's all cool. And he's like, I've killed so many assassins. Give me my bucket hat back. What do you think of this?

Looks fun. Looks a lot of fun. And as I said, Aaron Taylor-Johnson, he's really in a lot of movies, isn't he? Now, you say as you said, but you're talking about a conversation we had off air. So people are going to be lost. They're going to be like, is there a prequel episode to this series? And there is. Or we just sometimes talk about Aaron Taylor-Johnson, yes.

So, yeah, like the cast of that is incredible as well. Some like are more recognizable than others or some show up more. So it's also got like Zazie Beetz is in it. Logan Lerman's in it. From Deadpool 2. That's right. Karen Fugahara's in it. Who's Logan Lerman?

He's from Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief. Is he Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief? He's probably Percy Jackson. Is he Poseidon? Yes. No, I don't know. No, he's the kid. Percy Jackson.

Yes. Brian Tyree Henry. Michael Shannon's in it. It's just like an incredible cast. Speaking of Bullitt and Michael Shannon, a lot of people tweeted at us and emailed in. Well, I've got a list. I've gathered a list for later. Oh, okay, great. Tell us now, please. Well, I was just going to say that was on the short list. Yes. A lot of people tweeted at us and emailed in. Well, I've got a list. I've gathered a list for later. Oh, okay, great.

If you're going to tell us now, please. Well, I was just going to say that was on the short list. Yeah. I'm like, maybe too old. Yeah. But he's got a- Is he 50? Steve McQueen was like always 50.

Yeah, and then he died at 50. He died at 50. Michael Shannon may be too old, but he does have that weird American cool where he's cool, but he's not trying to be cool. Yeah. And any time stylists attempt to make him cool, it's a real disaster. Also, he might be Canadian.

I don't think he is. But he's one of those guys who might be Canadian. Sometimes that's more American than. Isn't it just? Yeah, you know, than American. Ryan Reynolds, Canadian. Oh. Yeah.

Also, we got a trailer for The Bubble. Yeah, we did. Now, just explain all this because I'm not going to. Okay. I'm not going to. Earlier in the week, many people may have seen on perhaps twitter or something and uh a trailer for something called cliff beast six where the six is then the s the s and and it had like a seemingly all-star cast and you're like what the heck is this yeah uh and it turns out that's the movie

within the movie of the movie The Bubble. Yes. Which is a, it looks like Tropic Thunder. It's like a 2022 Tropic Thunder. It's a group of actors. You could never make Tropic Thunder today. That's right. Because it's already been made.

That's right. And The Blackface. And The Blackface. And The Bubble is, the premise seems to be that there's a group of actors, they were making a film, but then the pandemic happened and then they were all trapped in a, or they're. They're in a manor. They're in a manor and that's a sort of bubble

and they're not allowed to leave. So they're like, well, we might as well make this movie, which has a sort of a lot of green screen and a kind of volume set up and they're making this bad movie. But it's interesting because it's got an all-star cast. It's Judd Apatow, I think. But it's got Peter Serafinowicz and Karen Gillan and David Duchovny is in this.

Pedro Pascal is in it. Yeah, all sorts. Keegan-Michael Key is in it. Yeah. Yeah, because I saw the first trailer and I was like, oh, this is like a movie where it's like they're going to release this as if there's been like six more of these in the past. You know what I mean?

Like Leonard Part 6. Thank you. Like Naked Gun 33 and a Third or whatever. Oh, sure, sure, sure. And then when you arrived, which was a prequel to this episode, you were like, did you see this thing? And I'm like, what is this again? You were like, I don't want to think about anything anymore.

No, if there's more layers to this, I don't want them. I don't want them. I don't want them. Yeah, so that's fun. And Judd Apatow hasn't directed something in a while, I believe. Not a movie at least. But, yeah, let's see what happens. I know his star has fallen somewhat because apparently his daughter,

Maude Apatow, is in that show Euphoria, which I haven't seen, but a lot of people like. And a lot of fans of her and that show are like, I heard her dad's a film director or something. Oh, really? And I'm like, excuse me? The director of Knocked Up? Maybe the director of the 40-year-old version

or maybe he produced that. I can't remember. She's very good as well. Like she's supremely talented, which makes sense because both of her parents are. And also she was born into Hollywood. So, you know, there were many opportunities. Is Leslie Mann also in this?

I believe she is. Yeah, I think she is. Yeah, so there you go. I don't want to cuss, but I mean, why wouldn't you? If Judd Apatow calls, she'll be like, why not, eh? So if you're Judd Apatow's wife and he calls you to be in a movie, what do you say? You can't make up an excuse because he knows.

Judd, you're in the other room. You don't have to call. You can just yell down the hall. I'm busy with, you know, all the things that I do because we're married. I'm having an affair. Judd, I'm having an affair. I'm busy with that, Josh. Okay. All right.

What else have we got here? Oh, Futurama News. Bender is back. He is. It's true. John DiMaggio. The charade is over. I don't think it was a charade.

Ask me if John DiMaggio has a quote about Bender. James, does John DiMaggio have any kind of quote about Bender? Actually, he does, yeah. I'm not going to read the full thing. Don't read any of it. Don't worry about it. No, read some of it. Bender is part of my soul.

Read the part you didn't intend to read. No, I don't have that. Bender is part of my soul and nothing about this was meant to be disrespectful to the fans of my Futurama family. It's about self-respect and honestly being tired of an industry that's become far too corporate and takes advantage of artists' time and talent. Look, I wish I could give you every detail so you would understand.

You can. We have unlimited time, John DiMaggio. No, he says, so you would understand, but it's not my place. Thanks again for the love, everybody. So they came to some kind of agreement. If you didn't know, if you haven't seen Futurama because maybe, I don't know, you're one of the people who doesn't know who Judd Apatow is, which is fine.

You can be a person slightly younger than us. That's true. We encourage it actually. But not significantly younger than us. What are you thinking? Who told you you could do that? Wow. So, yeah, they obviously came to some kind of arrangement.

I hope he got a lot of money for it and I hope everybody else maybe got a lot of money for it too. Do you think we get a check as well? Yeah. I'll keep you updated. Yeah, keep me updated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Check the mailbox.

Okay, great. And then we'll know what is going on. So there you go. I mean, will it be good? I don't know. But everybody's doing it. So there you go. It'll be at least okay.

I'll be happy with that. I still got to finish the last seasons that I'm got somewhere. Yes. Mason. Hello. What are your thoughts on the movie I Am A Legend Mate? I don't remember it being very good. It's my home movies I'm talking about.

I'm a legend mate. Okay, right. It's just me running around my house with a cardboard tube pretending to be a sword. It's you making spectacular marks. A specky. But they're very obviously staged. Over my kids.

Yeah, yeah, over your kids. A mark is meant for people who's not in Australia. When you catch a football. When you catch a big football. No, it's a regular sized football. I mean, it could be big. You could be doing some sort of novelty, like you're in an ad for Coles or something.

That's right. The supermarket. Like a Trader Joe's, but worse. So I Am Legend. Yes, it is getting a sequel. Will Smith and Michael B. Jordan are going to produce. And star. Michael B. Jordan is going to star.

Now, if you've seen that movie, which Mason has, he doesn't like it. I think it's okay. I think the ending, it's not. They don't really nail the ending. Yeah. But I think it's bad. Spoiler alert, he explodes at the end. Sure does.

Apropos of nothing, he just explodes. He's like, oh, nearly. Run, everybody run, and I've got these guys. And he's like, oh, I feel like I'm going to explode for no reason. And then he does. The legend is that guy exploded for no reason. And then this guy just freaking exploded. There's just a wise old man telling the children in this paradise.

Is this real? Is this a real story? Yeah, he freaking exploded. I mean, it wasn't there, but my mate said, you just freaking bang. Went bang. Bang. Anyway, so but if you've seen. Like a big melon.

There is a director's cut. Like a big bag of custard. There's a director's cut. Yes. Or is it a deleted scene or both? Where at the end, he doesn't die. Correct, yes. Basically, so he's got a zombie that he – no, they're vampires.

It doesn't matter. No, see, here's the thing, though. They're night stalkers. They're dark seekers. Thank you. In the original – They're dark stalkers. Remember dark stalkers?

Remember the video game? No, Mason. I don't remember anything. No, that's true. Because I'm slightly younger than you. Our frames of reference are completely different. That's true, yeah. So in the original novella, they are vampires

and they're like proper vampires. They're like, ah, vampires. Some are. Real Draculas. Some are more like brainless and undead. Yeah. But there are more intelligent ones you find out later on. Yes.

No, see, because they're always talking to him. Yeah, but no, there are like two sets. Like the set who come to his house. Yes. They can only say like two. No, no, some of them can talk. No, they can talk, but only a little bit. But there are like regular intelligent vampires as well.

Anyway, sorry. I was going to say, but in the movie, they're just like weird, like fast zombie. Yeah. They're quite vague. I didn't like their vagueness. I guess they were like, uh-oh, dog's here. Zippy's in here running about.

Zippy has a cone on her head. Zippy, are you causing trouble in here? Hello, Zippy. Hello. Oh, my God, Zippy. James, podcast is cancelled. I agree. It's dog time, everybody.

It's dog time. You came here for your Batman review. We're not doing it. We're not doing it. We're patting the dog. Zippy, come on. Come on. Now, Zippy, remember, I'm not the one kicking you out.

I want to be friends forever. Come on. Come on. Ollie's here too. Hello, Ollie. Hello. one kicking you out. I want to be friends forever. Come on. Come on. Ollie's here too. Here you are, Ollie. Here you are. Here it is. Ollie.

Oh, you've got to go too. Ollie. How do those dogs even get in here? The door was open. Oh. But dog time is over, everybody. Sorry, everyone. Yeah.

And sorry to me. Yeah. What were you saying? I was saying that in the- They're vague, whatever. They're like, they're sort of – they're some sort of hybrid. They're sort of zombies but they're fast and they seem unintelligent but then it turns out they are intelligent.

Somewhat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in the – Which is why the alternative ending makes more sense. Yeah. Because he realises that there's a connection because he's holding one of them and that one is – Yeah, because I feel like – again, I feel like the spoilers for a short novella that came out literally decades ago.

The 50s maybe? Yeah, but it's about this guy who goes around and he kills a bunch of vampires because he thinks they're all evil. And he's the last man on earth. Yeah, yeah, but then it turns out there's like a vampire society where they're not evil. They're just trying to get along with their lives. And he's been inadvertently killing a bunch of them as well.

Yes. He didn't know. So he's a legend because he's actually a terrible person. Yes. Inadvertently. Yes. And that never really comes across in the movie. No, not at all.

And, again, why would he say I am legend? Why would he even be called that? It doesn't matter. Anyway, they're doing a separate list. I agree. But I think what may be happening here is they've decided that the alternate ending is the real ending now. It's been far enough along that people have mostly forgotten

about that movie probably. And if you just at the start of the next one showed people the alternate ending from the last one, we would just go, oh, yeah, I guess that's. And you could even go, well, the real story and the legend, you know, that's sort of built in. You could go, well, you thought that actually he died, but the real story is he lived. Yeah, because the other thing.

Because he am legend. Yeah, we didn't like the other thing. Yeah, that's right. That we heard happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That he exploded. That we heard a different thing. Because he am legend. Yeah, we didn't like the other thing. Yeah, that's right. That we heard happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That he exploded. That we heard a different thing. Yeah.

Also. Anyway, so I think that's okay because I think there's a lot of potential in that narrative. And what if they just did I am legend? Like they just said, we'll do it properly, all right? We'll do it properly with Michael B. Jordan this time. I mean, does it definitively say sequel? It says sequel, yeah. Okay.

But I mean, these days the definition of sequel, reboot, remake, it's all a bit muddy. What does it mean? Again, maybe they just do the last one again, but Will Smith is his father or something. Yeah, I thought about that, but it was his kids died in a helicopter crash or something. Maybe they didn't die in that helicopter crash.

I just thought of something. Yes. What if they didn't die in a helicopter crash? No, they did, though, in the movie. Do you remember? Oh, yeah. Oh, man. So can't change that.

Can we edit that out? Can't change that fictional scenario. Can we edit that out when I'd forgotten the thing that happened in the movie? I mean, you can ask. Okay. But I'm saying no. That's my vote. It's got to be, you know, you've got 50% of the podcast,

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HelloFresh. Feels like a long time coming, Mason. Am I getting fired again? Yeah, you're out. No. You're out, and I'm in twice. Okay, great. You're going to have two opinions that That's right. They're largely similar.

But you really have to be reaching for that second opinion. Oh, yeah. It's just you just have your notes there and you're just like being a little thesaurus on the fly. I thought this movie was grand. Had a lot of spectacles. Does that work? Yeah. Excellent.

I don't think it had that. It didn't even have that many spectacles. The penguin didn't even have little spectacles. Well, it? Yeah. Excellent. I don't think it didn't even have that many spectacles. The Penguin didn't even have little spectacles. Well, it's early days Penguin. Yeah, he probably doesn't have his signature spectacles. Exactly. But I do want to talk about the box office of this. So the budget of this was $200 million.

The initial estimates were it was a $100 million film. Yeah, that's right. And after seeing it, I'm like, that cannot be true. Right. Like, surely not. But no, so it's around $200 million. The box office for The Weekend in the US is going to end up being between $120 million and $130 million.

That's bigger than the $110 million estimation. And internationally it's going to make around $111 million. So it's going to very much make its money back and then some, which is all the more impressive because there's a Batman movie every day. But on top of that, it's very long. So you get less cinema sessions going at any one time. And you get more people storming out at the two-and-a-half-hour mark going, I demand my money back.

And they're like, that's not our policy. It's 15 minutes. You get 15 minutes. I mean, it just flew by because I enjoyed it so much, but I still want my money back. That's right. It's me, a guy who exists, and I derive all my enjoyment from the first two-thirds of a movie, and then I demand my money back.

It's a great scheme. You know there's got to be somebody out there who does that. 100%. If you just make a big enough fuss, they'll give you the money back. Yeah. Yeah. How does this compare to the openings, I wonder? I don't know if you have those figures there,

but let's guess without even thinking about it. Okay, I can probably do that. Comparing to the openings, I wonder? I don't know if you have those figures there, but let's guess without even thinking about it, comparing to previous Batman movies. For example, the Dark Knight Batman movie. Let's have a look at that just quickly. But while I'm punching those numbers into my regular non-Bat computer... I would presume it's less, just because pandemic

style. Yeah, so the Dark Knight made $158 million in its opening weekend in 2008. So yes, Dark Knight Rises made $158 million in its opening weekend in 2008. That's more. Dark Knight Rises made $160 million. So there you go. I think that's just US. But it's not an insane amount less. No, absolutely not. It's tens of millions of dollars, which is an insane amount

of money, but it's not like this made $11 million or something. It was also going up against Uncharted, I think you'll find. That's true. Greatest movie ever made. And Colin Farrell's other movie where he's got a robot boy or something. Oh, after Yang. Yes. Apparently it's very good.

Anyways, critics seem to like it on the whole, 85% Rotten Tomatoes. Audiences seem to like it at 90%. What do you think the story was? Oh, no. You're throwing me for a loop. You familiar with this segment of the show? Yes. Where I ask you what the story was?

Very much so. What you think it was? Well, I mean. I've given you wiggle room there because it's what you think it was. Yeah, it's true. You don't have to be right. I know. I'm aware of the concept of this bit.

It's not a bit. You're giving me even more room now. That's right. But I'm not actually using it to think. Why would I? It's funnier if I don't, in my opinion. Not in anybody else's opinion, but in mine. All right, so it's Batman.

Everybody knows Batman. It's Batman, but it's early days Batman. It's two years into Batman being Batman. He's like, geez, I love going around beating people up as Batman. What are you doing? I'm checking the Batman v Superman opening weekend. Did it look like I was pretending to time? It looks like you were being a stenographer there.

I'm like, has he been writing down what I think the story was every time for years? Is he writing a book? Oh, yeah. Is this the new Leonard Moulton movie guide except it's just what I reckon the story was? Okay, so it's Batman. Yeah. And he's a couple of years in and he's like, geez,

I love beating people up as Batman. It's pretty good but I can't be everywhere. No. So that makes me sad because I tell my parents I beat up every crook in Gotham City and it's, boy, but I'm going to – there's all sorts of crime and there's a new guy and he's out there and he's – Would you say a new breed of criminal?

He's being a real zodiac, this guy, and he's out there and he's there, but I'm going to defend Gotham City, which is the grimiest and greasiest city there is. It's so greasy. It's so greasy. It's so greasy. For reference, Batman Vs Superman made $166 million. That's a lot of money. Gotham City in this movie, it is the world's largest industrial hot plate

that's never been cleaned. Oh, you are not wrong. It's just, you know, there's always a guy and he's like, well, I'm not cleaning it because that's where all the flavour is actually. All the flavour is when you don't actually, because you clean it and take all the flavour away and you're like, I think you're actually poisoning people, man. No, no, no.

And they're like, nah, nah, nah. And then it gets shut down. Exactly. Anyway, that's Gotham City in this. It's the grimiest Gotham City we've ever seen. Well, I think the idea of filming it in Scotland, it has like a... Ah, the grimiest city in the world.

That's right. Well, we've seen like a, yeah, the city of Scotland. It's got a very like dark and gothic aesthetic. Scott City, right? Yeah, Scott City. Yeah, yeah. Which is, you know, we have seen in particular like the Burton movies. I feel like for the Nolan movies, not so much the first one,

it does feel like this is Chicago. This is a big wide Chicago street or whatever. But I think the idea of filming this. That's the signature Chicago, big deep pizzas, big wide streets. Exactly. But the idea of filming it in a city that is kind of like literally drenched in this like gothic history and it's always raining and miserable. I think they may have added a little bit of grease.

I think so, yeah, just over the whole city. They just tipped all the fryers out in the chip shops. And let it run. And then smeared it. Yeah, absolutely. What did you think of this, though? I liked it a lot. Me too.

Look, a criticism that has been levelled at it, and I would agree with, is there's even less humour in this than in the Nolan movies. Like this is the most humourless Batman movie there is. I think there is humour to be found, but it's not like, it's not jokes. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think there's moments in this which, but it's not like, it's not jokes. Yeah. You know what I mean?

I think there's moments in this which I thought were funny. When he puts his little sunglasses on. Which he puts his little sunglasses on. That's fun. But like the bit, we've seen a clip of it where he punches Jim Gordon. Yeah, sure. And then that's funny. And then afterwards he's like, you could have pulled your punch.

And he's like, I did pull my punch. I think there are moments. Yeah, but I would say that being said, I think that works in this situation. Again, like we always say, oh, everything sort of tends towards grim and gritty. But we have had humorous Batmans in the past, and I'm sure we will again in the future. But I think in the context of this world, I think it works because, again, this is to some degree the long Halloween Batman universe.

It is grim and very serious. because this, again, this is to some degree the long Halloween Batman universe. Yeah. It is grim and very serious and it's two years into Batman being Batman. He's not necessarily having the greatest time of it and also there's no Robin in this universe, spoilers. And like the, I think, you know, the idea of Batman lightens up when he has a Robin or the rest of the family around him to sort of provide a counterpoint. Like they push him more towards the light. When he's outnumbered.

Exactly. And they're not in this yet so it makes sense that this is the grimmest part of his journey, you know? And one of the things I liked about this version of Batman and Robert Pattinson, or Robert Battenbat, who I thought was amazing in this, is that his version of Bruce Wayne like does, does not exist. In the sense that, like, Christian Bale had, like,

a fake Bruce Wayne that he used. Yeah, right, right. And he'd go out and pretend to get drunk and he'd be like, he'd have, like, four women on his arm, whatever. Whereas this guy goes out in public and it's like, what's up with this fucking guy? Right, right, right. Like, he doesn't know how to stand properly.

He's just, yeah, exactly. Like, he's out of the suit and he's just lost. He's just a weird trust fund kid at this point, and maybe he'll develop that persona later. Yeah, I think he absolutely will. But I liked that where he just felt like that is absolutely unnecessary and I'm not doing it. But I think it is going to get to the point where it's like people know

you have money and people know you're strange, so don't you think that maybe people are going to make this connection? But even the idea that, like, he doesn't look like he's had a haircut or seen the sun, like having that long, I know people make fun of, like, the long emo hair, but I took it more as, like, he doesn't care. It's just like I'll shave my head once a year and that's my haircut. Yeah, right, right, exactly, yeah.

And this particular Bruce Wayne, rather than living in Wayne Manor, sort of on the outskirts of Gotham City, he lives in Wayne Tower. I thought that was interesting. Which is right in the centre of the city, which is very useful for getting on his little motorbike. It certainly is. He can get on his little motorbike. What did you think about that?

Because, well, okay, how about this? Do you think it was like the most real world version of Batman that we've seen? Because a lot of people have said that like it even goes a step further than The Dark Knight. Yeah, right, right, right. Where, you know, that at the time was very real world. And I would even say like the Tim Burton one at the time was also supposed to be that because in comparison to the 60s one, it was even realer. Yeah.

I think it verges on being a real world. Like I think the Nolan one did as well, but I think there's certain boundaries that you can't really cross, you know, in the way of like if you take too much away, if you're like this is the real world, Batman couldn't really be Batman. Yeah. In the sense that like, what, is he swinging around the city? Yeah. Like that's just not a thing you can do no he needs a bike yeah right exactly yeah like

it it feels but i mean it it is still you know essentially comic book oh absolutely and i think like the one element of it where i where i'm like that we're not there at all is like there's and i don't think this is really a spoiler, but they have contact lenses, which is like their cameras. Yes, exactly. So you can just walk around, as opposed to putting a GoPro on somebody's head or a button camera. Yeah, I imagine they probably toyed with the idea of like give them a body cam like a police officer or whatever,

but then there's elements in the movie where like, okay, well that wouldn't work realistically for a variety of reasons, so it has to be a magical contact lens. Yeah, sure. Anyway, I just think they should have explained how it worked in detail and that should have been at least an hour. Magic. Okay.

He went to the fifth dimension and he got them from Mr Mix's Piddly. Oh, okay, that's fine then. Also, Matt Reeves has talked about it. Here you go, Bruce. Fiddly-dee-dee. You stepped out to pee, didn't you? Yeah, oh, okay. Yeah, that happened in the third hour.

That's a revelation. I'll tell you this much. I did not step out to pee, Mason, because I drank a regular amount of water, so I didn't need to go to the bathroom not once, not one time. Great. I think I'm over-hydrated and dying. There's a lot of explanation there, which makes me suspect you just peed in your seat.

Did you pee in your seat? None of your business or anybody's business. It's me and the cinema which i'm currently in a legal dispute and the three people around you in in nearby seats what i thought was terrific and this i think can also be said for the introduction of the batmobile the introduction of batman himself i loved that build-up so you've got the kind of multiple crimes happening across the city this is very early on and then there's like you see like a corridor of darkness and you're like, he's here. Yeah.

He's somewhere, but he can't be everywhere. So where is he? He's loving the idea that this Batman is loving the idea that he has sort of cast a net of fear over the city in the criminal element and to a to a almost similar extent just the regular populace of the city yeah they do not like who are afraid that this masked man with with electro gloves is going to beat them up yeah absolutely and yeah he's loving the idea that when the bat signal comes on people stop doing crimes because they're like oh maybe the patch of darkness over there yeah batman's there and he's going to stop me doing this vandalism order.

He's going to pulp me for doing this graffiti. Is it on because? I'm only doing a simple graffito. That's right. But, like, is it on because somebody, like, saw me doing this? Yeah, yeah. Watching me? What's happening here?

Yeah, and also it's interesting that the group that he picks to take down or he happens to be at is the one that like is not afraid of him. Like from then on they would be though, obviously. But yeah, but I thought that was really interesting. And again, with the Batmobile, it's introduced like a monster. You know what I mean? Sure, yeah. It like revs up and the lights are going off on it and all those kinds of

things. And I think he stalls it or does he just. That's a great question. Or does he just kind of like, I don't know. I think it was meant to be like a... I think it was meant to be played as if, like, it's a... Like a lurch. Like a tiger on a leash, maybe, kind of thing.

But aesthetically, this, and I think probably also a lot of the fight stuff, does play a lot like the Arkham games. Yes. I imagine that was probably... Like, I imagine there's a lot of... A bunch of stuff in this, you could say. When imagine that was probably like, I imagine there's a lot of when they put these movies together, I imagine there's a lot of influences that just get put up on the

wall. But Gotham as a horrible gothic nightmare but also sort of Batman, his fighting techniques do seem a lot like the game. Again, he does have those electrocution gloves. He does, yeah. Exactly. But he's not the only one in this movie, Mason.

No, he is. Oh, is he? I turned away every time anybody else. As far as I'm concerned, he's the only person in this movie. So he's already got a relationship with Jeffrey Wright's Commissioner Gordon, so he's already walking into crime scenes and having a good look around and solving riddles and the like. What I liked about that a lot is there's a real tension

because he's sort of, you see – this is in the trailers. You see him sort of walk amongst the forensics guys and the beat cops and like the other detectives and stuff like that at a crime scene or at the GCPD or whatever. And there's a real tension there because there's a lot of them and he's not – like he's not that much bigger than anybody else. But you don't know what he's going to do. Yeah. Like you can really feel like they don't want him there and they want to just knock him down and bust him. Yeah.

For whatever crimes they can pin on him. And you feel like he knows that as well. Yeah, yeah. Especially later on. But they also don't know how he's going to react to anything. They don't know if he's got a gun probably. Yeah, that's right. Or like what's on that utility belt? Yeah. They don't know if he's got a gun probably. Yeah, that's right. Or like what's on that utility belt?

They don't know kind of thing. And I felt that was a really effective tension that breaks sometimes. I agree. And I think also the idea that you skip all of that relationship building with Gordon is a good thing because, you know, if you've read any of the comics, if you've seen any of the movies, they just end up working together, you know? Yeah, sure.

And the fact that you don't have to explain how they got there I think is good. There's a lot of shorthand we already know that we don't need to cover. They're at that point where they are working together. They've clearly had some success with, you know, the mob, but they don't entirely trust. Gordon doesn't entirely trust him because he doesn't know who the guy is and Batman doesn't really trust anybody.

Like he knows that Gordon is a good cop. Yeah, but beyond that he's like, yeah. It seems, I don't even know if he likes Gordon in particular. I would say he probably doesn't. But he's like, this is the guy who will get me in the ring. I only like this one Nirvana song that I keep listening to over and over again. We can talk about that because I think the soundtrack is amazing. And, yeah, especially if you like that one Nirvana song.

But as a whole, Michael Giacchino's score is amazing. And the Batman theme itself, it's like quite triumphant as well. It's very, there's a couple of bars in it that are very Imperial March. It's the Darth Vader's entry music in the Star Wars movies. And I think that feels deliberate because he's meant to, whenever he makes an entrance. He's a big spooky man. Dangerous afoot.

Here's an interesting thing. Okay. All the titles of the Batman score songs are plays on words or puns? Well, I saw this with Oscar who I retweeted his review. Oh, your best mate. He's my best mate, yeah, that's right. And he was saying that that's what he does. Like he just does fun little puns on all of his books. Oh, I see, right, right. He always was saying that that's what he does. Like he just does fun little parts on all of these.

Oh, I see. Right, right. He always titles them in really interesting ways. So, for example, Can't Fight City Halloween. Oh, very good. It's Raining Vengeance. Very good. Crossing the Feline, Moving in for the Gill.

There's a character named Gill. Yes, yes, yes. So on and so forth. Funeral and Far Between. Oh, very good. And et cetera. Highway to the Anger Zone. But also I think because I guess they are quite silly,

but also you don't know them in the movie, and also this I guess prevents spoilers. Yeah, absolutely it does. Because otherwise it's just like Batman dies. Scene where Batman dies. Scene where Batman dies. Didn't they do that in Star Wars once? The Qui-Gon thing.

Qui-Gon died. Qui-Gon died. Sawed through the neck. Yeah, it's actually the first track is called Qui-Gon Dies Later in the movie. No. Track number one. Oh, no.

Yeah. I think also in terms of influences, I mean, you're talking about Star Wars and that. I know people have talked about like it's a bit like Chinatown. It's a bit seven. It's probably 40 minutes longer than Chinatown. That might be true. It might be true.

Is it true? Yeah. It's true. People have mentioned Zodiac, but I also think there's a lot of Saw in this. There is, yeah. I know also Saw is also derivative of a bunch of stuff, and I know the code work and all that is very Zodiac and other things but I think I don't I maybe maybe again it's the derivative thing but I think maybe that's something that if you were borrowing from or you're influenced by

you maybe wouldn't mention that you're like there's some saw in this movie as well all right because I but I don't think it's a bad thing either you certainly wouldn't have any of your characters mention it no like this is like a bloody Saw movie in here. Saw movie everybody. Let's talk about The Riddler. Let's talk about Paul Dano's The Riddler. He's always riddling about, isn't he? That's one of the main things that he's about. That's right. I thought his first entrance

was like Batman. Very spooky. Kind of very, like, and I felt also very sudden in a good way. You know what I mean? And I think the mystery surrounding that and why he was doing that had a, and we'll talk about this in spoilers, but had a very kind of interesting like resolution. And it's not so much like whodunit, who be doing this?

Because it's the Riddler. Because it's the Riddler. There aren't so many, if I may, there aren't a lot of twists to be had in this necessarily. But I think it's more of like a why done it. It is definitely a why done it. I think that's... Why Riddler done it. It is definitely a why done it. I think that's... Why Riddler done it.

This is a classic why Riddler done it. Why he did this. Why do you think he did it? Loves doing riddles and crimes, I guess. Yeah, that's probably a big part of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, Zoe Kravitz is in this as Catwoman, and I thought she was amazing also.

Like, really, really good Catwoman. I would love to see a spin-off of something with just her. Maybe a Catwoman movie. Maybe a Catwoman. I've got a video where I talk about all the sequels and stuff and things that could happen as a result of this. Apparently very early days discussion about Catwoman. But if they did something like that

Long Halloween spin-off, which we talked about on BigSandwich.co when we talked about Long Halloween. The Long Catoween. If they had her in, like, you put her in Rome, and she's doing stuff there. Completely different completely different setting now. I mean, completely different set of criminals and good guys and whatever. James, are you forgetting the score, the one that's titled Catwoman Dies?

Oh, shit, yeah. Catwoman Dies, real bad. Real bad. Real bad in a way she can't come back from because it's not that kind of universe. Yeah, she's not like a literal cat. Falls into a meat grinder. Quite early on. Quite early.

Ten minutes in. Speaking of, we're doing Catwoman this week for Caravan and Garbage, aren't we? That's right. Boy, that's a different kind of Catwoman, isn't it? Real different. Oh, also Johnny Tattoo's John Turturro as Carmine Falcone. Very good.

I had reservations about him, not because he's not a great actor, but because he obviously is. But the Carmine Falcone from the comics, he just looks different. He looks like a big kind of Brando kind of looking mobster where he doesn't really have that. But it was, again, amazing. Terrific. Yeah, and real Italian probably.

That's all I am interested in. How do you feel about Andy Serkis' Alfred? Because we always get a slightly different interpretation of Alfred. See, that's actually one of my few complaints about this. I wish there was more of him because there's a little bit of like, you're not my real dad, etc. Shut up, Alfred. Let me just check the score.

Oh, no, here you are, my real dad, Michael Cicchino. But then I think one of my favourite moments in this, and I think one of the real moments of humanity in this movie, is between Alfred and Batman, or Alfred and Bruce Wayne, where Bruce Wayne has to come to terms with like he seems like he was kind of pushing him away because of what happened to his parents and then he's like, no, this is a person I care about and clearly cares about me because he's helping me do this stupid thing.

This stupid thing, yeah. And I just wish we had more of him because I really enjoyed him and he's got a different haircut than any Alfred we've seen before. That's right, yeah. He's probably younger than, he's probably one of the, like probably the youngest Alfred we've seen in movies, that is. In Gotham he's quite young as well. Pennyworth.

Pennyworth, he's very young. Very young, yeah. Yeah. But what did you think of him? Yeah, good. Yeah. Yeah, good. Pretty good.

Pretty good, we thought. I think what you said encapsulated everything that I thought. Encapsulated. I don't get it. I don't get it. Speaking of, Colin Farrell plays the Penguin. That's right. If you were like, if you showed me him, or I'd seen this movie,

and you were like, I'm going to give you 50 guesses, who is that? Yeah. I would not have got it. Right? He doesn't quite like, the makeup doesn't quite rise to the level of like a Dick Tracy villain, but it's interesting that everybody else is just. It looks real though, right?

It's very interesting. Yeah, it does. Like it's very interesting that he's the only one who gets a massive like makeover. Yeah. And that's, I would look, maybe. You're asking why. Is that your question?

Well, I am asking why, but I imagine Matt Reeves has either explained it at length or will explain it at length at some point in the future, but I think that's fascinating. Yeah. And I wonder if – is it because he's seen Colin Farrell in things and he's like he's got a vibe that would work for the Penguin and now we get him in that? Or did Colin Farrell come in and do a great screen test as as the penguin but they're like you don't look anything like the penguin yeah and you

can't be a cool irish dude who's cool and sexy and be the penguin so also we'll just we'll we'll penguin you up yeah how did that did he did he do the audition on with shoes on his knees great question how did he do it i think it's one of those situations where. Did they get just every actor to come in and go, wah, wah, wah, wah. But I think it could have gone really wrong. Oh, yeah. And I hate to, like, bang this drum, but having seen, like, Jared Leto in House of Gucci. Sure, yeah.

And the makeup's good. Or, like, Guy Pearce in Prometheus. And they did him because it was supposed to appear younger in it. Yeah, that's right. Or, you know, it could be really annoyingly pointless and distracting. Right, yeah. But they nail the makeup and he nails it, so it kind of completely works for them.

Yeah. And he's getting his own series. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Imagine putting that on every goddamn day. Right? Well, he did Hot Ones recently. I don't know if you saw it.

He did, yeah. But apparently it started out taking like three or four hours. They got it down to two eventually because they figured it out. But that's a commitment every day. So it's usually like two hours to put something on and then it's like an hour to get rid of it. So that's a lot of commitment and then you've got to act. And then you've got to do your acting.

You've got a full day of acting. And I think he said something to the effect of like sometimes putting on the makeup can be kind of alienating. Like, sometimes I guess you wouldn't even know until it's on. You need to be like, this is kind of weird and alienating and I feel uncomfortable. But for some people I think it's a case of I can be this character because there's no, I'm not me anymore, I'm this character.

And I think it's also down to the fact that this is a really good, it's a mask and it's makeup and it's all like, from how he described it, it seems like it's all being connected correctly to all his, like the muscle groups in his face. Yeah, it's like anatomically like. So if he raises an eyebrow, it comes up correctly. Yeah. Or if he smirks, like he doesn't have to adjust.

It's in pieces essentially. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's nuts. It's really good. And also it's a very dark movie so that adjust. It's in pieces, essentially. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's nuts. It's really good. And also, it's a very dark movie, so that helps. That's true. Also, I don't know if you knew this, but one of the things they made use of, and because of the pandemic, it's not quite the volume,

but they had these huge, like, I don't know if they were LCD screens, but something like that. So a lot of times when you're in, like, Carmine Falcone's office or, like, they're looking out over a city, whatever, it's not a green screen. It's, like, a giant screen. It's, whatever. It's not a green screen. It's like a window. It's a window. It's a real big building.

Wow. But I think that added so much to it and probably helped keep down on cost as well. And again, when you're filming this, you know, under lockdown, like little things like that really help. And also, as we've seen in like Star Wars and other places where they've used the volume, which might also just be Star Wars, you get the light bouncing off everything. You know what I mean? You don't have to take out like green screen reflections

because it's all real light. Yeah, right. And I think that just made a huge difference. There are some great shots of Gotham in this movie. I recognise the city of Gotham. Yes. Same. No, but they still didn't do any like big, like a big typewriter or something.

I would love that. I don't think this is the kind of world with a big typewriter. They could do a big greasy typewriter. Sure. Just covered in chips. Yeah, it's called typewriter fish and chips. I wanted to actually ask you about like the look of Batman and the practicality of his suit.

Like I think it takes it like a step further again than Nolan where that was very much like, well, this is an army suit and we're repurposing it for a Batman suit. Where this one, the intention was that he's hand-made it and it feels that way even though you'd have to be incredibly talented at that. And it does look like he's just- Alfred probably did.

Alfred probably did also. But it does look like he's just adding bits to it as he goes. As he goes, yeah. It's like if he got stabbed here, he'd put a plate on it. It's already dinged up, you know, in places. And he's got the eye makeup underneath, which I really appreciate. They didn't shy away from when he takes the mask off. I think even at the start you see him applying the eye makeup,

or at some point in the movie you do. Yeah, exactly. Do you think they meant to put that in? No, I think that's probably a mistake. Probably a mistake. He's sitting in a chair that says Robert Pattinson on the back. But even like I love like the use of his weapons, like the grapple gun.

And when I say weapons, he just uses that to shoot people mostly, doesn't he? Well, it's interesting because it looks very similar to the classic 89 grappling gun. But it's also on like a holdout. So it's in his – and he's got two. He's got two, yeah. It looks very similar to the classic 89 grappling gun. Yeah. But it's also on like a holdout. Yes. And he's got two.

He's got two, yeah. And they're in his sort of gauntlets, like the inside of his gauntlets. I guess which you can't lose them, so that's good. No, can't drop them. Can't drop them. And also, and this is me just inventing, we're no-pricing this movie. Yeah. But if you do that, then you could say there's like an infrastructure in the suit.

Like a length of rope in it. Well, even like cables. Oh, mechanically it's all in the suit. Because you couldn't practically put it into like a little gun. And also like one of the questions you often think about with these kind of characters, if you fire a grappling gun and you swing off a building, you're dislocating your arm? Yeah, absolutely.

But if it's reinforced throughout the entire suit, then maybe you don't. Well, you've solved a problem that I didn't know I had with this movie. We're going to see some articles about it. No doubt. We're going to see some clickbaits. I think also we see the origin maybe of some of his other weapons and all things, and one in particular,

there's a moment where he blows out a fire extinguisher and then it's like the smoke pallet. And then he's like, I'm anywhere, but where am I now? And I think, like, after that he probably went, that's probably a pretty good idea and I'm going to do that from now on. Zippy's back, folks. The dog's back, everybody. Yo, Zippy.

Yo, video. Remember, I didn't put a cone on your head. I'm the blameless one. No, that was him, Zippy. Don't listen to him. No, it wasn't. No, it was other people. All right, Zippy, you're going to have to go out

because we're talking about the bat. We are talking about the bat. There's no room for you, Zippy. You're cute, but you're not cute enough. Oh, Zippy, no. No, don't take Zippy away. Oh, no, I wanted Zippy here forever. Wow.

There's one other particular aspect of the suit which I do want to talk about. Peeing? Is it so he can pee? Yeah, I think he's just peeing anyway. You've seen that city? Sure. Who cares? Oh, he has a knife as well.

But, you know, he's got to have a knife. Yeah. He's got to have a knife. He's got to have a knife in Gotham or Scotland. I agree. I absolutely agree. I think maybe we'll do some spoilers. Okay, sure.

How do you feel about the action? Did we talk about that? Well, let's talk about it right spoilers. Okay, sure. How do you feel about the action? Did we talk about that? Well, let's talk about it right now. Okay, great. Good. I know some people have said that it's kind of like it's too slow. You know what I mean? There's like a – because it's long shots like the way that Nolan would often do.

Yeah, right, right, right. But I found like the way it was lit and the way he moves and just like he'll pick up a gun or a bat and he'll hit someone in the head with it. Then he'll drop it and he'll hit the next one. Arkham style. Arkham style, exactly. And it's also like it does feel very real in the sense that like not everything lands picture perfect

or like sometimes you'll be punching another guy and the guy behind him will just like take a few shots at him. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't feel as invincible as the Ben Affleck version did. I mean, he is bulletproof. No, he is bulletproof. Ish. Yeah, but, you know, and I'm not – these are different versions.

And I like the Ben Affleck version. I do. But I feel like – Do you think Ben Affleck missed a trick by not having a Ben Affleck? Jeremy Renner's job. Where you could get Ben Affleck updates. Yeah. Yeah, he definitely has.

But they're different. You know what I mean? I mean, I think if this Batman was probably in a room where there were 20 guys and they all had guns, he'd probably not get out. He'd probably shoot a fire extinguisher. That's right. Whereas Ben Appleck Batman will kill everybody in that room. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whereas this version also doesn't kill anybody. That's true. It goes out of his way to not kill anybody. Does he even accidentally kill anybody? I don't believe so, but I might be wrong. And he hasn't not killed anybody since Batman and Robin, I believe, is the last movie where he hasn't killed anybody. Interesting, right.

In live-action cinema, at least. I know people say, what about movies that went to other? No. No. Stop. Stop and no. And also, look, if we're going to give a rating and then we're going to talk about spoilers,

I'm going to say if I had one criticism, it is three hours long. Yes. And it does the third hour. A lot of people are saying that it's three hours long as well, aren't they? But it's actually two hours and 56 minutes long. I was about to pull you off on it. And it's less than that if you take the credits out, but also you probably want to stick around for the credits

because there's a two-second thing at the end. I don't think that's a spoiler. If there's nothing at the end, basically. No, yeah, yeah. That's fine. You don't need to stick around, even though I did a video that's a spoiler. If there's nothing at the end, basically. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine. You don't need to see it. Even though I did a video on it. Yeah.

I feel kind of like there was either the reason it's so long is there was some studio interference, especially in the third act, or that was Matt Reeves' intention all along, we've got to put certain things in because it's a certain type of movie. I have a similar complaint. And I think we should talk about the spoilers, but I think I've seen people say, well, it's three hours long and you couldn't really take anything out.

I think you could. I agree. I think you could take some stuff out, and I wonder if people will do that on their own. Or just stop watching at that point. Just stop. Well, they could do that. They could do that.

It's their power to do so, but you'd look weird in a cinema doing it, wouldn't you? Absolutely. Especially if you hadn't seen it before. Exactly. But now that I have. Let's do some spoilers. Okay, I'm going to say best movie ever. I agree.

Best movie ever. Again. It's the best Batman movie since The Dark Knight. The best solo Batman movie. The other one being The Dark Knight Rises. Yes, it is. Yeah, it is better than that movie. Look, again, like solid action.

I like the Bruce Wayne. I like the Batman. Supporting cast is really good. Soundtrack is good. Again, entirely humorless. Well, 99% humorless, but that's the style we're going for. And maybe in the next one he'll lighten up a bit. He'll lighten up just a tad.

I wonder if we'll get a Robin in the next one. I wonder if there'll be another one. Well, there will definitely be another one. That's one of the things I talk about in the video I made where Robert Pattinson's like, if they're going to do Robin. Please, Robin Pattinson. Robin Pattinson. If they're going to do Robin, they have to make him a kid.

Because if he's just like another guy he hangs out with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you bring in the kid and then you're like, then you have to justify it. And then it's also, because it's fucked up, you know? It is a bit, yeah. And the idea that you then have to go like, why are you this yeah is this for you is it for him well on the on the tv show on titans the tv show they're basically like yeah batman's a bad person like he's a bad dad he shouldn't have he shouldn't have done this and he keeps doing it yeah like the the the premise

behind a lot of the episodes is like dick grayson's not, Dick Grayson and Jason Todd and et cetera are not well mentally because they were drawn into a war on crime as children. Yeah, exactly. To a guy who like gives them validation if they kick somebody really hard in the head. Yeah. Anyways, we're doing spoilers. We are doing spoilers right now.

This is just a really little thing, but when Alfred was caught in an explosion of sorts, this was the kind of universe where I thought, he could be dead. Could be dead, yeah. And then afterwards he obviously wasn't, and in hindsight I'm like, obviously they're not going to kill him. But it did feel like the kind of world where like, maybe. Maybe we only have, yeah, maybe this is it.

Because I mean, spoilers for the comic books, Alfred has been dead for quite a long time in the comics. He will be back, I'm sure, because they've killed him before and he came back. As a robot butler. Oh, yeah, maybe. I don't know. He came back in Batman and Robin as an AI.

On TV, yeah. But then he also came back. Yeah. So they're two versions of him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm wondering, because it's actually been quite a while. And I think when Alfred – What if they'll do that in the Flash?

Like they'll bring him back using like archival footage on a computer screen. Oh, maybe. It's like an AI Alfred. Yeah, maybe. Anyway, they could. Anyway, sorry, go on. I was just going to say in the – like years, in like decades ago, they killed Alfred because I guess they thought they didn't need him anymore.

Yeah. And then they brought him back as like a villain. He was Alfred but he lost his memory and he came back as a villain and then they were like, oh, he remembers again. And then he was fine. So I'm wondering if they're going to do that. After Batman punched him in the head? Yeah, absolutely, so many times.

I'm wondering if they're going to do that in the present day but just like a more elaborate version of that. He did get his neck broken, so I don't know. That'll get you. Maybe clone him though. That'll get you also. That'll get you. Maybe clone him, though. That'll get you also. That'll get you back in the game. Yeah, yeah.

We should be talking about why the riddler done it. We should talk about why the riddler done it. How do you feel about, this is a spoilery thing, I think, how do you feel about how easily everybody solved all his riddles? Batman just knew all the riddles. Well, he's Batman. He is Batman. That's true.

I really think there should have been a C for Catwoman. Oh, absolutely. But, like, I really think there should have been a C for Catwoman. Oh, absolutely. But I feel like as an audience member watching it, there is no time as an audience member to puzzle out. They're not giving you the clues to the riddles so you can solve them. No, that's true. It's not for you. And I think this was the best iteration of Batman.

Well, that's something we haven't talked about. Yeah, as a detective. And I guess it wasn't really about solving the riddles. It was more about, or some of it was. Some was about solving those ciphers. I think some of it was about riddles. Some of it was about riddles. But it was more about why is this person doing this

and then we sort of trace the why back to the man. Yeah. And I think that was good detective work, I thought. But I think also like there were breadcrumbs there which do pay off. See, at the opening scene with Ave Maria, somebody is watching a particular whatever, a particular person they're going to kill. It's the Riddler and the person he's going to kill, you know, whatever.

And then at the end it turns out that the Riddler has just been just perched outside of that nightclub the entire time. And it's like, well, yeah, he would be, wouldn't he? That's really an obvious thing to kind of, you know, to do. And I like little things like that where he's just kind of camped out at the different places because, yeah, he would need to do that. And also the fact that he's doing, I like the idea that he was doing it, well, he thought he was doing it with Batman.

Yeah. That the clues he was leaving him was not to be caught. It was to be like, I'm doing some great work. You get this, right? You get it, right? And one thing that I did very much like is the fake out where we think that he's figured out that Batman and Bruce Wayne are the same person because he's like, Bruce?

Yeah. They finally have that meeting a la The Dark Knight between a pane of bulletproof glass and he's like, Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne. But then he's like, you and me, Batman, we got them all except Bruce Wayne. Yeah. And I thought that was very well done.

I also thought that it's possible that he knows he's Bruce Wayne at this point. Like he figured it out and went, oh, this maybe isn't the person that I thought it was. Right. I don't think it's that but often like you know villains will discover his identity and just be like i don't care well he i believe unless they've changed the continuity which they probably have that he did in harsh he did figure it out

right he knows he knows bruce wayne is batman but he can't tell anybody because bruce wayne will get him and it's also a riddle like what's the point of a riddle if everybody knows that's true yeah the answer but i also catwoman i also think it could be possible that, yeah, which is what it more likely is, is that he's not all-knowing. Yes. And so he cannot make the connection between why would this man who he thinks is helping him be the same person who's one of his enemies? Yeah, right, right.

He cannot put those two together. I think that's very much the case, yeah. And that's probably it, I would say. And I also like the introduction, I guess this is more of a modern-day thing, And that's probably it, I would say. And I also like the introduction, I guess this is more of a modern day thing, where he's built a fan community online. Right, yeah.

Small, but dangerous enough where 20 guys will dress up as him and try and shoot the mayor. Yes. And I think I didn't expect something like that, something that I guess has been, you see it in like terror attacks and white supremacy groups and all that. And even, I guess, good communities. Sure. People build like a loyal following. And even I guess good communities. Sure. People build like a loyal following.

And I just didn't expect them to do that. Planet Broadcasting, great Facebook group. Yes, please. I like that in theory, but I think in execution, my biggest issue with this movie and the length of this movie is that I feel like the initial, one of the initial ideas for this movie, I feel must have been they catch the Riddler and that is the end of the movie.

But then somewhere along the line, somebody said, whether it was studio executives or Matt Reeves or somebody or test audiences, they said, okay, but we can't just have somebody, we can't have an action superhero movie where we catch the bad guy and they go to the asylum and that's the end of the movie. Even though that's how a lot of Batman comics go.

Yes. We have to have him punch 20 guys. Yeah. And so they went, well, we've got a bunch of extra Riddler costumes. We've got half a dozen Riddler costume doubles, so let's just have them show up. And there were elements that were never introduced in, it felt like the last part of the last act wasn't very integrated

into the rest of the movie in the sense that they're like, well, we've got you, Riddler, and he's like, yeah, but I put bombs on the seawall. What seawall? When did that happen? And I guess maybe there's an establishing shot that I missed, but I'm not an architect and I wouldn't have looked at that and gone, well, Gotham City's going to go underwater if those seawalls ever blow up.

There's certainly a seawall. There's certainly a seawall there. It's also a plot point of Year Zero, the comic. The Riddler does a similar thing where he floods the city. That's not to say that they didn't include this later on because the elements that connect to it, as in where Batman, I think it's Batman, finds his computer

and then he sees all the people following and they're like what kind of guns are we getting? What are we up to? You could easily put those two things in later on. And I mean, maybe this was always the plan but I feel like it feels ultimately because they went, well, we have to have a big fight at the end because otherwise

people will be like, what a rip-off. We needed a big spectacle. Because it does kind of become a different kind of Batman movie in that point. Yeah. Not so different but, yeah, it definitely like ramps up. And also another issue I had with that is also like the guys he fights at the end aren't just randos.

They are people on the internet who there is followers. Yeah. But also like who are they to Batman? They're even like the idea that they're- I think they're just an extension of the real life. But the idea also that they wear exactly the same thing down to the glasses really felt to me like they were like, we've got costumes lying around. Like if they've revealed, like if, and I think at one point,

one of them, the mask comes off and they're like, I'm just a nobody or something or I'm whatever it is. And it's just like, to me, it would make more sense if we'd seen any of those people prior. I thought, and I don't know whether this is true, that that guy might have been the guy he spoke to at the funeral. The guy in the crowd is like these rich people and whatever. I don't know if it's the same guy because his head was all taped up.

Yeah, right, right. So I don't know whether that's actually true. But I think also that then led into what I liked about the finale where he's helping people and whereas at the start when he saves that person, the person's just like, please don't beat me up. He's like, why would I beat you up? And at the end he's like, I'm going to rescue you and not beat you up. And not beat you up.

And they're like, why would you bring up the beating up part? But then he gets the idea of like it's not enough for him to be terrifying. He needs to also be saying to the people who are good as a force for good. And that doesn't necessarily mean he has to beat up 20 guys, I guess. But I think I like that story arc of the character where they're like, I can be nice. Yeah, sure. As a necessity if it makes me do my job better, I guess. But I think I like that story arc of the character where they're like, I can be nice. Yeah, sure. As a necessity if it makes me do my job better, I guess.

I'm just going to tape a big smile under the front of my cowl. But the bit that I felt was tacked on was the Joker. Yeah. I really. Now that's Barry. Is it Cohen? How are we pronouncing that? Barry Keoghan?

I'm not sure. We get it wrong every time. I'm having looked at it and being mocked for saying Barry Keoghan in the past. I think it might be Barry Cohen. Done. There you go. He's Druig. Folks, it's Druig.

It's Druig. Yeah, Druig is here, everybody. And apparently there is a deleted scene. Yes. Which they deleted. Oh. Fun fact. Where it was earlier in the movie and he goes to Arkham to talk to like a proto-Joker.

Okay. So he's not quite fully Jokerized yet. He hasn't been Jokerized, okay. But he's had a heart defect since birth which causes him to smile all the time and that has led people to react to him a certain way and he's really good at reading people but he's not quite the Joker yet and apparently he's based very much off The Man Who Laughs. Ah, the original.

Which is what the original Joker was based off. And the idea I think of putting in that scene, which is, I guess, similar to what they did in the long Halloween where he visits Calendar Man, you visit somebody who's similar and go, what's going on? Right, yeah, yeah. I think that speaks to a wider universe and what might come in a sequel

and feels less forced than the two villains get together and go, ha-ha, we're friends! Ha-ha! I see what you're saying, but also I would imagine if you put the Joker, it's Chekhov's The Joker, if you put the Joker in at the start of the movie or at the midpoint, I think everybody would expect that he would pop up at the end and be like, oh, you thought you'd gotten the Riddler, but also I'm here,

and I've got a big gun with a boxing glove on the end. You're probably right, but also just don't do it. Just don't put it in. And be like, he might be in the next one. We don't know. And that's not to say anything about his performance because I don't really have a problem with any of that and we didn't really see him.

So I don't know what exactly they were going for. Yeah. Look, and again, if I had one more, if I'm going to harp on a little bit more about the Riddler, I think it would, for me, it would, I would be much, I wouldn't be much happier with the Riddler clones if they were like maybe low-level thugs that Batman had beaten up earlier. Or some were cops maybe.

Some were cops. They didn't like him. Yeah, for sure. Like anybody, you know. And maybe they were. We don't know. Well, that's true. We don't know.

They were just randos. Yeah. No, I think that's a solid point. But I did like the bit where he burst through the ceiling and then started beating him up until he got overwhelmed. Yeah, okay. Because, again, that's probably what would happen, you know? And if I had one more criticism.

You seem like you've got a lot of one more criticisms, Mason. Well, this is my segment, one more criticism until I've forgotten what I was talking about. Okay, great. He is pretty bulletproof. Yes, he is. I mean, and again, with the fight at the end, it seemed like maybe the constant being shot was slowing him down a bit.

But again, the problem is that there's... Did you like how he had adrenaline or something, though? Oh, that's a good... Or was it venom? Do you think so? Maybe. I don't think in this universe. Maybe like a...

It was very weird looking. It was weird looking, you're right. Maybe it was just a glow stick. For people who don't... in this universe. Maybe like a – It was very weird looking. It was weird looking, you're right. Maybe it was just a glow stick. For people who don't – for people who – Was it from the movie Venom? Yes. Yes, it was from the movie Venom. That's what you're thinking.

Yeah. Or it was Edward Cullen's Venom. Oh, my goodness. I remember the Twilight movies. We talked about them. I think it might – so in the – for people – because there's different continuities and all sorts of different versions of Bane. Yeah.

But in the original comic books, Bane gains superhuman strength from Venom. But prior to the introduction of Bane, there was a storyline called Venom where Bruce Wayne takes a lot of Venom and he's like, I'm going to be a better crime fighter with all this Venom. Yeah. And he's not though. And I reckon that makes my back stronger. Yeah.

And that's how it's going to stay. That's right. That's interesting. So maybe it is. Yeah, there you go. A couple of things that I guess I wanted to point to touch on which I quite liked. Falcone being Selina Kyle's father, that's sort of the long Halloween

universe and some other universes probably where it may or may not be the case. And I liked the bit how he sort of can fly but not really. Boy, you only want to use that if you have to. That's true. Because it's a disaster. That's interesting. Yeah, rather than have the electrically primed glider suit

that he had in the Dark Knight trilogy. And this is what I mean about being like a step even more real world. Yeah, yeah. So instead of that. The next version is going to be so real world. That's right. Instead of that or anything else like that, he has a sort of, he can sort of, he's got some zips on his cape, I guess,

that can turn his suit into like the classic squirrel suit. Yeah. What do you call those? I think they have those. It's like a special forces like paragliding situation. Yeah. You put your arms out like a big squirrel. They're in some of the Michael Bay movies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, you sort of glide, sort of. He would have gotten away with that too if he hadn't hit that bridge. I agree. I mean, he did get away with it. Yeah. But, yeah.

I wouldn't have aimed for the moving truck. I would have aimed for the bridge. That's interesting. That's probably why you all. The top of the bridge, not the bottom of the bridge. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. But I guess he was like, if I hit this truck, I can get it. It's a quick exit.

He was also going like 100 miles an hour, so he probably didn't have a lot of time. Yeah, true. Also, install the that makes sense. But I guess he was like, if I hit this truck, I can get it. It's a quick exit. He was also going like 100 miles an hour, so he probably didn't have a lot of time. Yeah, true. Also, install the parachute, maybe. Maybe that's a better idea. Also, there was that one moment where it's like the shot of Batman's face and it did look a little bit ridiculous. The Digby Chicken Caesar?

Caesar syndrome, yeah, exactly, yeah. We do love a bit of that up here, don't we, Maxon? You could have cut that, I think. Yeah, fair enough. Cool. All right, look, I. We do love a bit of that. Don't we, Maxon? You could have cut that, I think. Fair enough. Cool. All right. Look, I've got some feedback here just on our podcast, what they think of us.

No, this is people that have written about the Batman. Okay. Craig says, The Batman might be the first Batman movie about Batman. Not the villains, not Gotham, not even Bruce Wayne. The focus often literally is completely on Batman. I really loved that. I think that's a great point.

Scott Milton Art says, Find me a Batman that embraces the silliness instead of running from it. It was dark, but he was still a hero. Felt like the comics and cartoons come to life. Best movie ever. Best Batman ever. Average Daughtless says, Loved the Batman, but be honest, guys.

If it was a Die Hard sequel, how would you rate it? I mean, better than most of the Die Hard sequels. Yeah, I'd say probably right up there with probably the first couple. Better than Die Hard 2 at least as well. I don't think that's a great Die Hard movie. Josh says, watching the Batman felt like reading a high-quality graphic novel like The Long Halloween. At the perfect mix of gripping mystery, disturbing twists and bleakness

with just a sprinkle of hope at the end, Robat Battenbat is batting 1,000. And Mike D says, just got out of the Batman. From the Beastie Boys? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Well, it's Mikey Dawson, but yeah, just got out of the Batman. My favorite part was-

That's not Mike D from the Beastie Boys. We don't know that. Was, on the internet, you can be anybody. That's true. It's like the movie Ready Player One. You can be anybody. That's very true. My favorite part was when my girlfriend at Merida Lorraine turned to me

and pointed out that the Batmobile was way better than a sensible Volvo. Yeah, that's true. Which is what, of course, Edward Cullen drives. Yes. Those wonderful Twilight movies. Do you have anything else to say about the Batman? No. Cool.

Okay, how about this, though? Go on. Why don't we talk about the sequel and what we might be getting? Yeah, okay. The city is- Joker. I guess. Again, I've got a video on it.

It's a more hopeful version of Batman maybe. Yeah, that's true. The city might still be flooded or might not. Yeah. Could do the Joker, might do Hush. There's some kind of like Thomas Elliot and we literally see the word Hush and there's a few characters where you're like, is that Thomas Elliot maybe?

I think I saw somebody on the internet be like maybe the villain in this should have been hush. Well, yeah, they're not dissimilar in terms of motivations. But also do you want that as your, I don't think you want that as your first villain in this universe. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. And a lot of people are saying, including me, that, you know, there's a court of owls among this somewhere.

For people who don't know, Hush was a childhood friend of Batman. Yep. Or Bruce Wayne, rather, who eventually surgically alters his face to look like Bruce Wayne. Because... It's crazy. It's crazy, yeah. So I know the cast as well have talked about court of owls

and how they love that narrative. There's definitely room to do something with that. Because you can just be like, they were here all along. We did the riddle. That's why Gotham sucks and is so greasy. We put the grease on everything. I'm a kind of an owl mask. Think about an owl. What's the most

what's the thing about an owl? They're greasy, aren't they? No, they're greasy. Yes. You ever petted an owl and you're like, oh, this is greasy? I think your hands are greasy. I don't think it's the owl. No, no, it's the owls. This whole thing's based on greasy owls.

So if owls aren't greasy, then... Why are you called Court of Owls and not the Greasy Owls? Oh, I've got to rethink a few things. Oh. I'll give you this, you're very greasy. Thank you. Thank you, I am. Anyways, if you have any opinions.

We've got a great team that greases up all the suits. If you do have any opinions, we'd love to hear about anything in the sequel. But, yeah, I'm sure we'll be talking about this movie. I would love to. Yeah, I would love to see a Mr. Freeze in this. Oh, yeah, he's also talked about that as well, yeah. Just give us. I don't care how you do it. Yeah. Give us a weird freeze. If they didn't do it, would you care about that then? Yeah, I'd be this. Oh, yeah, he's also talked about that as well, yeah. Just give us, I don't care how you do it.

Yeah. Give us a weird freeze. What if they didn't do it? Would you care about that then? Yeah, I'd be mad. Oh, no. All right, cool. What's an out-of-the-box villain?

Give us a clay face. Clay faces. Have they done a live-action clay face? No, not in movies, obviously. But you wouldn't have to do like a giant. You'd do actor clay face? No, well, maybe, but I think, oh, are you saying because we can't have any superpowers? Well, they're saying that that's probably not what they're going to do.

I reckon they could do. I reckon it wouldn't. I think you could do actor Clayface, but I think you could also do weird malleable face guy. I don't think that would be too far. Like he doesn't turn to Clay or whatever, but he can just force his face into different configurations.

Because he's so greasy. Because he's so greasy and then he uses makeup and a wig or whatever. Okay. He's more a chameleon kind of character. That's a different character though, obviously. That is true. But just give me Mr. Freeze. I would love to see Mr. Freeze.

Just weird, weird hunched over Mr. Freeze and he's got his big helmet on. Because we've never seen Mr. Freeze in a live action movie, have we? That's true. That's true. I wish we had. But we haven't. I wish I could look to something and go, there it is. You can't, though.

Even if they did it badly, there it is. We can't. That's true. Anyways, let's move on to the next segment of the show, Mason. Okay. What do you think it's called? I think it's called What We're Reading. Yeah.

What We're Going to Read. I love how you think, Mason. Thank you. It makes me think. Thank you. I'm doing a thing. Westwood? Well, this is

big, Mason. Is it? This is the segment of the show where we talk about the other things we've been reading. I mean, it is. Huge. This is huge for us. This is a big opportunity for us to shine. Are you ready? Show our knowledge of things, you know, just in all genres. Do you reckon if we show our knowledge of things, we get like a cool gig?

Yes. Like it pays a bunch of money? That would, man, imagine having a cool gig. Oh, my God. Because they say like everybody's got a skill and all you have to do, you want to side hustle, you just have to monetize that skill. It's true. And my skill is I can go to the supermarket and I can buy like a carton of eggs

and I can put it in the fridge and then like a couple of months goes by and I open the fridge and I'm like, oh, I can't eat those eggs. They've gone bad now. You're doing six eggs at a time? How many eggs are you doing at a time? Yeah, six, six, six and a half. Why, you're still not using them? Yeah.

Do you think I can monetize that? Can you monetize that? Do you think my side hustle could be knowing, buying, buying eggs and then not knowing? Well, it's monetized in the sense that there's money changing hands, but I guess the problem is it's going in a different direction. The flow of money is in the wrong. But if you could somehow reverse the flow.

Like if you were giving the eggs. If I could reverse the polarity of the egg money transaction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I could keep them in the fridge and then I could sell them off at a profit. That's interesting. Yeah. That's interesting. Maybe you could freeze them, keep them from even longer. Oh, that would be great, yeah. If I could keep them in the fridge and then I could sell them off at a profit. That's interesting. Yeah. That's interesting. Maybe you could freeze them, keep them for even longer.

Oh, that'd be great, yeah. And then chuck them at cars, frozen eggs. Is that anything? Yeah, that's something I reckon I could monetize. And then I could put that on TikTok probably. That is true. And I could get a sponsorship. Bigfrozeneggs.com.

All right. What have you been doing though? Well, I've had a little bit of time off. Yeah, yeah. So I've been getting into a bunch of stuff. Wow. Trouble? Yeah, trouble, first of all.

So we mentioned Kingsman, I think, recently. We watched Kingsman. And then you recommended the Mark Miller comic book King of Spies. Oh, yeah. Which is about a Pierce Brosnan-looking James Bond-style spy who decides that he's going to work against Queen and Country and get rid of all the bad guys he's been protecting all over these years.

So I read that. It was really good. Is it finished? I don't think so. I wouldn't know because Comixology is fucked still. No, it's not finished yet. Thank you to people for sending their recommendations for other comics apps.

Or recommendations for stealing. Or stealing as well, which I'd rather not. But I guess I wouldn't have a problem with stealing things I already own. That's true. But there's not something that's just like everything. Do you know what I mean? That's true. And that's what's annoying about comixology.

That's how they get you. That's how they get you, exactly. But I was like, well, I should catch up with a bunch of other Mark Miller stuff that over the years I've maybe read the first issue and then gotten busy and I'm like, I don't have time for. You're busy. Yeah, exactly. You didn't have any time off. You didn't have any time off.

I didn't have any time off. Until now. So I read, so I'm up to date on Jupiter's Legacy. Oh, yeah. Which is, of course, the superhero universe that got a series on Netflix and then it was immediately cancelled. I remember that. But there's the, we're halfway through what I think is the final volume

called Requiem, which is essentially, it's set further into the future of the universe. Yeah. And we are, there's more bloody strife, as you might imagine, but it's also we might be leaning towards the origin of why they got their powers because they went to a – it's this group of people in the Depression and they went to this mysterious island.

They come back with superpowers and they're like, we're going to make the world a better place. But we don't really know why that was. Like why did this force come down again? Yes. The only issue is they've done six issues of this. There's six more to go. And in the first issue of this, because it's like from months ago,

there's a note from Mark Miller and it's like, right now Jupiter's Legacy, it's number one on Netflix. We're flying high. And a part of me is like, ooh, they've done six and they're on a break. Will this ever come back? And I think, I mean, they've done six and they're on a break. Will this ever come back? Is this going to come back? And I think, I mean, they've committed to it to this point.

There's been other things as well in that universe as well, right? They've done prequels and other things going on. Yeah, a little bit, yeah. Super Crooks, I think, is in that universe. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's also on Netflix. There's Jupiter's Circle, which was the prequel. Yes.

But hopefully they'll finish it off. Did you, see, I haven't read any of the sequel stuff, so would you say it's as good as the regular stuff? Yes. Cool. Because I like that comic quite a bit. I also read Reborn, which is the one – you've read most of these, I think. Which one's Reborn?

Reborn is the one where there's an old lady and she passes away. Just in a weird afterlife or whatever. But her afterlife is this fantasy sci-fi realm where she's ended up in the realm of good, but there's also a realm of evil. And a lot of people she knew in life are in this universe as well, and it's kind of complicated. I also read Starlight, which is the Buck Rogers one. I like that one a lot.

I thought Reborn was a bit scattershot. It was a bit like this is everything. Well, when you read a bunch of these in a row i like them a lot and they're all dead what if if you read mark miller years ago and you're like this is a bit edgy and i don't like it i think his newer stuff is more he's more earnest i think and it's it's it they they feel they to me they're more fun because they're less like this is cruel stuff happening for no reason but they they all do, and I think maybe one of the reasons for that, I think he's definitely matured and improved as a writer, which I like,

but I think it's also because Miller World has sort of turned almost entirely to pictures for movies and TV shows and stuff, and it's kind of like you get better results if it's PG-13 kind of thing. Okay, sure. Starlight I really like. Yeah, Starlight is the one where he is a man who was a Buck Rogers style hero. He got beamed to another world and he saved that world and then he came

back and nobody believes him. But then the aliens come back and they're like, hey, we need you to save the planet again. And he's like, I'm old. I'm old but I'll do it anyway. I'll do it with my back. I'll do it. I read Huck, which is the Superman kind of guy,

and he does one good day to day in secret. Superman but he's Forrest Gump. He is Forrest Gump a little bit, and then the world finds out about him and et cetera. But I'm also reading one last thing, James. Wow. I got a copy of, it's called Blood, Sweat and Chrome, The Wild and True Story of Mad Max Fury Road.

Oh. There's a book. I don't know if you've heard of books. Isn't it Charlie's Throne? Like, why are you so late, Tom Hardy? I'm going to punch you in the head. So it's essentially, it's an oral history of the movie Mad Max Fury Road compiled from mostly new interviews.

And you know some people who worked on that, right? A couple of people worked on that. A couple of people are in it, actually. And it's essentially, you know, it's the story behind a movie directed by George Miller, who at that point had given up on the Mad Max franchise. Well, he hadn't given up on it, but he hadn't made a Mad Max movie for decades. He'd been trying for like 20 plus years.

Yeah, and it's a story of like him attempting that and, you know, getting offers to do a TV series and all this sort of stuff. It's going to be animated at one point. Yeah, and all this kind of stuff. And then producing what nobody expected, which was an amazing action movie. Yeah. Which it's in the book, but there's a quote from Steven Soderbergh.

I know you said producing, and I know you meant in terms of he made it. Yes. I think people, some people might be like, he didn't produce it, he directed it. He produced and directed it. I'm just going to say that. Thank you, James. Thank you.

You've saved me muting some people on Twitter this week, so that's good. But as Steven Soderbergh famously said of the movie, and I think I'm paraphrasing here, but he said, it's amazing they're not still shooting this movie and it's amazing that hundreds of people aren't dead. So, yeah, and that is really true. And it's very fascinating. So it's basically a bunch of new interviews and some archival stuff

because some of the people have since passed away involved in the production of this. And it's all sort of chained together in a chronological order. It's very good. That sounds fascinating. By Kyle Buchanan. Right, so that's relatively new as well. Came out like this week, I think. Oh, okay.

So not like new, new. Yeah, not new, new. Not five minutes ago. Yeah, wow. I didn't get it five minutes ago and read the entire thing. I guess I'll check it out then. Yeah. Well, what I read or watched, even though you watched

and read most of the things this week, it turns out. Yeah, yeah, I really monopolised that. I'm limited in my options. Well, I mean, we say we can do like six things in total and I've done five and a half there. That's right. So you've got half. I'm going to talk about the first.

You've got 30 seconds to say half of it. The first half of the new Scream movie, which I watched. Okay, great. I thought it was terrific. Really it. The first half of the new Scream movie, which I watched. Okay, great. I thought it was terrific. Really? Just the first half. Did you actually watch the first half? No, I watched all of it.

So it's Scream 5? And I don't think I've really been. Well, couldn't tell you. I've seen one. I've been invested in the Scream franchise, I think, since the second one, which I quite like. Third one's pretty blah. The fourth one I don't really remember,

but apparently it's pretty good. Okay. And there's some stuff in this which kind of resurfaces. So when, like, a character shows up and I'm like, am I supposed to know this? And they'll come up and I'm like, oh, yeah, that person was in number four. Well, that being said, given that I've only seen the first one,

would I enjoy this? This one is mostly callbacks to the first one. Oh, okay, right. Yes, you could 100% watch that one and then this one. Interesting. And I just thought a lot of the returning characters, yeah, I think what it does really well is, first of all, they bring back the original cast or who's left.

Okay. And I think, and maybe some surprises, who's to say? Uh-oh. I think, like, they're all good. They probably don't give Courtney Cox, like, maybe enough to do. Okay. But David Arquette and- Just keep her in a room?

Yeah, just keep her in a room. Playing with one of those executive desk toys? Yes, that's right. The balls on the chains? But it's great seeing those- Clink. Those people who are back. And David Arquette's amazing.

Yeah. And Neve Campbell is just incredible. I just think she's just terrific. And she's also not- They're not really in it that much. Okay. Because a lot of the focus is on the new cast. And the new cast are very interesting.

Okay. And dynamic, and the new cast are very interesting and, you know, dynamic and they work well as a group. And it does very much feel like it does retread a lot of stuff in the first movie because that's the one that's kind of not only paying homage to but also rebooting and as the franchise itself, as the movie itself is also aware of that. Yeah, right, right, right. And that could absolutely get painful.

But for me, it just worked very well. And a lot of it is callbacks and, oh, look, it's this location and it's this person again and all those kinds of things. But I just thought on the whole, did you see Ready or Not? Yes, I did. The directors of that. The board game movie. Board game horror movie.

Yeah, which is also fantastic. And I just thought it was like a really good, like as a screen movie it works and also as a continuation it works. It's kind of the, it's what I wish the new Halloween franchise was. Oh, very good. It was just, I really liked it. There you go. Oh, just to be clear.

And you should watch it, by the way. If you've just seen the first one, you could totally watch this. Just to be clear, I did like all the Mark Miller stuff that I read. Yes, no, I thought you were clear on that, Mason. Well, I'm going to be clear, I did like all the Mark Miller stuff that I read. Yes. No, I thought you were clear on that, Mason. Well, I'm going to be even clearer. Yeah. Just because I'm like, because, you know, again, while it, I think it's good that this, his company and him, who I think writes everything still, is attempting to make new stuff.

Yes. And I also read Empress. Oh, I liked Empress. Which is a. Like a big Star Wars-y sort of. It's a big, well, that's Empress. Which is a- Like a big Star Wars-y sort of. It's a big Star- Well, that's why I remember it, because it's a big Star Wars-y thing. And Zagary-ish sort of.

Yeah, it's set 65 million years in the past, a long time ago. Yeah. But it's set in a previous civilization on Earth, and the Empress of this galactic civilization is on the run from her husband, who's like a Darkseid-style monster. Yeah, absolutely. But, yeah, like – Did you read Prodigy by any chance? No, but it's on my list of every comic ever made.

Yeah. Chrononauts is like a time-travelling one, which is a fun one as well. Well, that's the thing. Like I appreciate while some of them do have – you know, we've reached the point where no matter what you create, somebody's going to be like, well, it's a bit Star Wars, isn't it? Or it's a bit Superman, isn't it? You do something in space.

But I appreciate that it's while some of these are like deconstructing the genre and some are just straight up, you know, plain vanilla versions of a particular genre or some of them are like cool edgy versions or whatever, at least there's somebody out there not going, should we do another Batman? Yeah. Like at least, you know, somebody not going, should we do another Batman? Yeah. Like at least, you know, somebody's going, here's some new, and while it is kind of very much like,

and maybe we'll turn this into a movie, at least, you know, they're all fun and very compelling. I wasn't like, God, I've got to get through these. I'm like, oh, what's going to happen in the next issue? And what did happen? Everybody died. Oh. Yeah, everybody got their heads stomped and lasers and just blown up.

Everybody gets blown up, limbs cut off, you know, that sort of stuff. That's interesting. Very cool. Wow. I think. I agree. Wow. Then we've got to move on.

Let's do letters. What kind of letters? These ones. I think. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a take away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. I forgot one thing here right now. We're going to do that.

I forgot one thing. What's that? In what we're reading. What? Because I wasn't even reading it. It was a podcast. What? Aunty Donna, the last few weeks on their podcast,

they've been doing a moving car podcast. They're doing a podcast in their car, and it's ridiculous. They've set up a government in the car. So go back. Go back a few episodes. There's like the Prelude to the Moving Car podcast. If you want a jumping on point for their podcast. Yeah.

And they've put in a lot of rules and they're off on adventures in their car and doing a podcast. It's very funny. That sounds amazing. I am going to listen to that. Yeah. Because I want a jumping on point for the Aunty Donna podcast too, Mason. Yeah, nice.

I didn't even know they had a podcast. You do. I didn't know. Whoa, you're a liar. Okay, so if you do want to reach the show, just simply hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Simple as that.

Mason, do you have any Gmails or would you like me to kick things off? I've got some Gmails. Here we go. What have you got for us? This is from Zachary. Hello, Zachary. This is my hometown as an official Tom Cruise day. This isn't associated with our podcast really in any way,

but I love Tom Cruise-related news. Sure. Hi, James and Mace. I thought you guys would be interested. Tom-c-news. You're better at that than me. I would have said Tom-c-news, though, so that's good. Hi, James and Mace.

I thought you guys would be interested to know that my hometown has in the books an official Tom Cruise day. Yes, that is interesting. It's May 9th. This happened when someone won a contest to see a premiere of Mission Impossible 3 with Tom Cruise at their local theatre. So Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes flew into our little dinky airport and went to our mall and signed autographs for a while

and accepted keys to our city from the mayor. How many keys? As well as a book of our history. It just says keys. Keys. Probably two keys. But then they divorced, I assume. Wow, who's got those keys?

Where are those keys? How are they going to start up or shut down the generator? Oh, because you need two keys. How are they going to launch the nuclear missiles? Oh, my God, this little town. And they've got a book of our history. I was there, and here are some highlights from my perspective. Oh, I'm loving this.

Tom Cruise didn't say a single word during the entire thing. Our local radio station had to pull their couch jumping competition at the last minute. People thought it would somehow help the town's economy. He signed my copy of Last Samurai on the plastic cover rather than the disc so it wiped off before I even got back to my car. There was a shrine to Tom Cruise at the mall that stayed up until the mall got torn down during the start of COVID.

Wow. If you're interested, here's a Seattle Times story on it. I can't click it because I've made a screenshot of this, so it would be futile if I were to click it. I understand. That's fine with me. Anyways, it's a little quirky thing I thought you might have a laugh at. Why didn't he say anything?

It's a great question. That's from Zach. He says, can I be the official human on the podcast? Yes, you can. Sorry? Was he conserving energy and what was the thing you said? He said, can I be the official human of the podcast? Yes, you can.

I've got to say, I'm loving emails like that. Right? I'm not saying I don't love all our emails, but just like. You love that one especially more. Give us a strange entertainment. It's like you love your kids equally, but one of them you do love more. Absolutely. That's what I thought.

Here's a question for you. Not true. And it's the one listening to this. Wow. Yeah, first one who listens to this. And if they're both listening to it, you're out of the wheel, both of you. Nice. I love the little traps you've built in.

I love traps. Yeah, traps are good, aren't they? Here's a trap for you, Mason. It's from Alcedare McGregor on Twitter who says, hashtag with a planet pod, which is very much how you reach the show. Have you guys watched Guardians of Justice? What the hell is it? Oh, I am aware of it.

It's on Netflix and it's sort of a very low budget superhero spoof of some kind and some of it's live action and some of it's animated or something. And that's as far as we can go with that information. I saw a thumbnail and I'm like, I'll get to that eventually. Yeah. I think I got that little push notification that's like, you were interested in this. You idiot.

And I'm like, was I? All right, I guess. I guess. I'll get to it eventually. Yeah, so there we go. I've heard some people talking about it in the Great Mates Planet Broadcasting group and their opinions are divided but not entirely negative, so maybe it's worth checking out.

What about you, Mason? This is from Yoram. He says, hey, guys. Hey. I'm saying hey because he said hey, guys. Oh, that's good. That wasn't at you. You looked up like I had something.

Hey, you. Hey, mate. If you're any louder, I just would have run. But no, that's good for the interaction with the listeners. It's true. You've got to increase that interaction with the listeners. So we can sell them things. Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, good. He and his girlfriend live in the UK. When my girlfriend found out that Tom Holland was British, I had to show her you guys' famous ooh, I'm Tom Holland bit. We laughed lots and we do it to each other all the time now. Excellent. Fast forward a few months and she tells me that she's been doing it at work all the time but no one really seems to get it. We laughed lots and we do it to each other all the time now. Fast forward a few months and she tells me that she's been doing it

at work all the time but no one really seems to get it. I said, what do you mean you do it at work all the time? Turns out she thought it was something Tom Holland had done in an interview or something along those lines rather than a niche podcast inside joke. Anyway, much love from your Am. Oh, no. We've ruined a regular person.

I know, right? So she's like, guys, Tom Holland, get it? And they're like, why would we get it? What do you mean? We're all British. What are we doing? Yeah, that's good. That's good stuff.

We love ruining lives. We certainly do. It's our favourite thing to do. We're so sorry. We're jackass, but for other people's social interaction is what we are. That's right. And he's got a quick pun for that and it is? No, I don't.

Okay. Moving on. That was the thing. That was the joke? And then I was throwing it to you. That was the whole joke. No, I was throwing it to you. Felt like it could have been refined more.

What was that, my job? No, it was still my job. So I feel bad about that. Okay. Actually, cool. We've talked about last week they're redoing Bullet. Oh, yeah, that's right. Also, did you see?

Maybe they're redoing it. Maybe, yeah. Because it's not going to be Spielberg's next project. His next project is something else. Yeah, he's doing, I was going to say Indiana Jones, but that's someone else. I don't know what he's doing. It's called like Warble Land or something.

Warble Boys, everybody. The Warble Boys. The Warbles of Wimbledon. Yeah, yeah. Oh, he's doing a Wombles remake. He's doing the Wombles. Oh, that's great. But we talked about Bullet.

Oh, I just want to quickly say Robert Downey Jr. is Parker. Did you see that? No, I didn't see that. For an Amazon series? So that's a series of crime novels, one of which was adapted into the movie Payback. Yep, which is good. With Mel Gibson.

Melvin Gibson. Statham's also been Parker. And there might have been someone else at some point. That's interesting. He's sort of a real anti-hero kind of. He's hard living, hard thinking. He's a crim, but he's not as bad. He's real noir stuff.

I didn't know that. So this is Robert Downey Jr. That's interesting. RDJ. That would work. I mean, that would work. I mean, his default, like his public persona is like, he's kind of like a scallyway.

I think he's also maybe doing a- And Parker's more of a prick. I think he's maybe doing it with Shane Black as well. I might be wrong. Okay, that all makes a lot of sense. Let me check. Okay. Well, look, I'm very excited to see whether he becomes,

it's just Robert Downey Jr. again, or he's a real piece of work, which he is. So, yeah, that's the first emerging with the deal, we'll feature a film titled Play Dirty. So it's a feature film. Sorry, it says series but it also then says feature film. I don't know. The first project emerging from the deal would be a feature film

titled Play Dirty in which Robert Downey stars in a sense as Parker and then Play Dirty serves as a reunion. Yes, I know that. Who are you talking to? But is it, I don't know. I don't know. It's a movie or a show or both. I don't know.

Anyway, cool. Anyways, we said who could be Steve McQueen's Jack Bullitt? Who could be it? Frank Bullitt. Who's cool enough? Who's cool, but it's a very specific kind of cool. This is really just for me. I don't think anybody cares.

Oh, really? Because I got a lot of messages, Mason. I don't think this movie is going to get made, but alright. I think it will. I think it's because it's a thing that somebody knows. Here's a few that I'm going to throw out of the top of my head. A lot of people have said Damien Lewis because he played Steve McQueen in

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I mean, maybe. That could work. Sure. Here we go. Drew says Jason Momoa and Lenny Kravitz. Two cool dudes. What as a team? Yeah.

Okay, great. Love it. Zed says Henry Cavill. I don't know about that. Too big. Too big. I mean, he could get small, but why would he? Yeah.

Ridiculous. Well, so he's already done like a throwback one because he was in The Man From U.N.C.L.E. That's true. Miscellaneous says Benicio Del Toro. I don't mind that. I don't mind that. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. This one might be, I think in my mind, is the closest. Okay. This is from Matthew. Michael Fassbender. Yeah, that works. He's got that Steve McQueen kind of vibe and leanness.

And again, we don't know much. He's not too big, is he? We don't know much about him. What's he doing? What's he doing? Is he doing bad stuff? Is he married to another famous person? I think he is, but who is it?

I don't know who it is. Who is it? Right? Thomas says who it is. Who is it? Right? Thomas says Timothy Olphant. Yeah, that could work. Like that. Yeah. Chris says Chris Pine.

Yeah, okay. Too cool, too Hollywood cool. Maybe too cool. Because the question is they're going to be cool, but they can't be like Hollywood cool, which is like this guy's cool, right? Because if it was like him or Hemsworth or Evans, any of the Chris's, I think they are verging on too cool. Yeah.

But that's, you know, cool is perspective. Cool is relative, exactly. Timothy says Mr. Inbetween's Scott Ryan. I haven't seen that yet. Very good. But it's on the most recent streaming service I've forced myself onto. Yes, and outside the box and really good, that show. And AK40OZ says Tig Notaro.

That would be great, yes. There we go. Now that's cool. No, but in order to do that, we'd have to already cast one guy as Bullet and then they get cancelled and then we bring Tig in. That's how this works. What if you cast someone who's already cancelled, you film it and then you replace them?

Yeah, nice. So they've already been cancelled and then you just come in and then your work's done for you. Anything else, Mason, in terms of Latours? Let's have a look. Like I said earlier, I think Michael Shannon might be too old, but I like his. He's real grizzled. Maybe he's too grizzled.

That's the problem. Who's he married to? I don't know. Michael Fassbender. That's that famous couple. Oh, that makes sense. What about Cillian Murphy? I like that.

No, I think that could work. Yeah. You also have to factor in how's their American accent. Yeah, he's good, right? Yeah. I mean, he did Batman. That's true. So there you go.

Yeah, he's married to Alicia Vikander, Michael Fassbender. That's a famous person. That makes sense. I'm aware of that person. Yep. I love knowing how famous somebody is. Right? Don't you?

Sebastian Stan, too cool? He's in that Marvel camp, I think. Yeah, but he's pretty like, he's a chameleon fellow, isn't he? That's true. He's Tommy Lee at the moment. Yeah, he's Tommy Lee, that's true. How about cool, but I think probably not American enough, Mads Mikkelsen. First of all, he's not American at all.

And I think if he were to do it, don't make him American. That would, I think, detract from Mads Mikkelsen's coolness. Yes, but it also, I feel like Bullet has to be all American. That's what I'm talking about. You also haven't seen Bullet, so this is. I have, haven't I? I don't know, maybe. I've seen some of it.

Okay. Isn't that enough? I've seen some of it. Yeah, that's enough, I think. I saw the first half of Bullet. Yeah, yeah, I think. I saw the first half of Bullets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I saw the first half of Scream 5. Cool, man.

Let me check. Oscar Isaac. That's cool. He is cool. That's cool. Anyway, that's a bunch of cool dudes, and dudes we think are cool. I agree. What's next?

What's the Green Knights guy's name? What's his name again? Depp Patel. Yeah. That's a good choice, actually. Can he do an American accent? Dunno. Dunno.

Dunno. He's all like, I'm committed to doing British things. I'm British or whatever. I'm Australian in that one Australian movie about adoption or whatever. Very good movie. You should watch it. All right, Mason, what's next? Oh, I got one more email.

What's next? This is from Gwen. Hello, Gwen. Gwen. Yes, James, Gwen. Hello, Gwen. Hey, Gwen. I've never met a Gwen.

Hey, dear James and Mason, I've been watching the channel for close to four years now. Yes, James, Gwem. Gwem. Hey, Gwem. I've never met a Gwem. Hey, dear James and Mayso. I've been watching the channel for close to four years now. Oh, thank you. A year ago I was diagnosed with leukaemia and I spent a lot of my time listening to the pod. It's helped me have a good laugh through an otherwise horrible time. Thanks for being entertaining and making me laugh so much. I have a question for you. When Daredevil inevitably shows up in the future MCU project in costume,

do you think they'll keep one of his costumes from the show or he'll get a new one entirely? Thank you for your question, Gwem. I'm glad you're doing better. Me too, Gwem. That's great news. I'm sorry I called you Gwem. I didn't miss here. I was just being a prick.

There was a tone approaching that letter and I'm like, do I address the tone? No, no, no. I'll just barrel on with this letter about leukaemia. Great question though. Yeah. I think they're going to do the yellow red suit. I think because often they'll be like, let's take it back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know Charlie Cox is like the one thing I want to see is the D, the double Ds on his chest. I think you know what I'm referring to, Mason. Yes. The logo. The daredevil logo. Yeah.

So I think they're going to do like his. Daredevil is one word, though, so I think you should just say D. Yeah. And people should be like, what is that? BD. Big D. Don't you think? Yeah.

That's better, right? Yeah. Who's this mysterious vigilante? We call him Big D. Is the yellow one the first? Yes, it is. And also when you get like flashbacks in comics, sometimes he's in it. Or he's in the black one, which is more like an 80s thing, I think.

But, yeah, what do you think? I would like to see that. I mean, you know, what I like, one of the things that I, the only thing that I like about the Marvel Universe, James, is they update the costumes quite regularly, and we always get a new version of whoever's suit, whether it be Iron Man or Captain America or whoever. Yes, yes, yes.

So they will 100% give him a new suit, I think, and I think it will probably be more comic book-y. I would love to see how they pull off yellow because it doesn't seem like You could do it. It doesn't seem like you could do it. Yeah. I imagine it, but, I mean, Iron Man is yellowish sometimes. No, he's not, though.

He's gold. They never go with the No, that's true, yeah. Because they basically have the same look. Yeah, that's true. Don't they? Look, if – The early version.

I think if they – obviously if they're going to do the yellow and red, I think they will find a way to pull it off. It won't look stupid. Yeah, I agree. So they'll definitely give it a whirl at least for one movie. I agree. Or show or episode.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, thank you, Gwen. Maybe they'll do the one where he's like, maybe he'll get all wacky and be like, I'm trying all new suits and we'll see the yellow and red one and people will be like, oh, I don't think so. And then Taylor's like, that's $500,000. You'd be like, I don't like this one. Yeah.

I guess I can make you another one. Yeah. Is that what you'd like? Yeah. By the way, oh, you don't have money. You're paying in fish, are you? I don't like this. Well. Anyway, thank you, Gwen. Yeah. By the way, oh, you don't have money. You're paying in fish, are you? I don't like this. Well.

Anyway, thank you, Gwen. Yeah. I know your real name. Not your full real name. Do we have it in the email? Don't read it out. I have it here. Don't worry about it.

Oh, yeah. Everybody, just so you know, if you write him, we have your full name. Might be a pseudonym, though. There we go. Yeah. Probably safer. Yeah. All right.

Is that the show? That's the whole show. Folks, thanks so much for listening to the show. Yeah. If you've got anyonym though. There we go. Yeah. Probably safer. Yeah. All right. Is that the show? That's the whole show. Folks, thanks so much for listening to the show. Yeah. If you've got any opinions on the Batman, let us know. I do actually. I already do. Especially if you think we are very wrong.

I would love to see it. Well, I think, and I mentioned this last week of like the two people I spoke to afterwards. One of them was like, I didn't like it. I thought it was the dark night light. Oh. And I didn't feel that way. But I also think we'll, I've seen a little bit of that and I think we'll probably see more like it. I thought it was the dark knight's light. Oh. And I didn't feel that way, but I also think we'll, I've seen a little bit of that and I think we'll probably see more of it.

And it's not like as big and bombastic as a lot of Batman movies. It's quite slow, you know, for a lot of it, which is also fine not to like. Yeah. I wonder if like cinematically, if they did another one, which is very similar to this, like another detective movie. Yeah, yeah. Do you think people would be like, boy, do you think we'll be like, boy, we're sick of this?

Yeah. Can he just punch 20 guys in identical costumes? Please, if we could, just now, please do it. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, let us know. It would be very... Let us know. I would love to hear some new perspectives on this. Me too. Mason, how do we wrap up the show? Folks, the way we wrap up the show

is we, James, first of all, we thank everybody for listening. We do, don't we? James, if you could. Oh, you want me to thank everybody for listening? Individually, yes. Do I use full names? I've got this spreadsheet of everybody's full names and addresses. If you could, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll do five a week and we'll see how it goes

for those people. No, folks, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends about it or tricking your girlfriend into saying some weird in-joke in a real life. You never said that it was a real regular thing. No, I made it up out of my stupid brain. My weird diseased brain. He never said it to his girlfriend.

No, that's true. That's true. I don't know. Folks, thank you for telling your friends. Thank you for leaving a five-star review on whatever platform you have. Very easy, usually. Yeah, I agree. James, you got any there?

Got one from Dr. Dastardly who says, pig rolling down a hill. One of my favourite podcasts of all time. Always look forward to my Monday morning commute to work so I can listen to James and Mason bicker back and forth with each other about various news and topics. Always good to see some of the recurring characters such as guy who knows everything about

anime and guy who knows nothing about Star Wars. Those are not characters. Those are real shards of our personalities. Oh, yeah, that's how I know them. There we go. That's right. Remember, James, you also have two more vetoes left for the year. I know.

Riff vetoes. I can't wait. Don't forget. What do you have one left? I might have one. You might have one because you vetoed one of your own riffs. No, I'll give you two. You can have two.

I think canonically that one's a freebie. I love that. You can veto any number of your own riffs. No, I'll give you two. You're going to have two. I think canonically that one's a freebie. I love that. You can veto any number of your own riffs. Is this a riff? No. Okay. No, this is information for you. Okay.

So information cannot be a riff. If it's something useful, not useful. If you're imparting relevant information, it's not a riff. That's not a riff. Actually, you know what? You can have two more riffs. You can have two more vetoes of me. You can have more vetoes of yourself but but i just pull the pin you're gonna pull up it on your own whatever you're talking about but if you run out you're gonna

i gotta keep going keep going yeah i love that uh the car says a poggingly good time oh never fails to get multiple genuine laughs out of me genuinely Genuinely can't listen to it while I work because it's too entertaining. Uh-oh. I presume that's not a spelling mistake and is a mix of entertaining and interesting, which is that's how we do things. That's right. One of us is interesting and one of us is entertaining, but we're both not both.

We were both misinformed about which crew we're supposed to be. So the funny guy is just real dry. Yeah. And the dry guy's like, well, hey. You know, like an MC at a wedding and they're like, why did they give it to this guy? Right. He's up there for too long. Get off, please.

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We are having a great time, aren't we? We're having a great time, yeah. Yeah. What are we doing this week on there, actually? I think it's a, I don't know. You tell me, tough guy. Oh, Jesus. That's right.

What the fuck happened then? We'll do it before I flip the table. You're going to cop it, mate. But we've got some T-shirts on tpublic.com. Yep. Search for The Weekly Planet. Thank you to The Brute and The Basilisk and Rackham for all the musical themes.

Oh, we're looking at 1989 for the time correction. Oh, that was a good year, I think. That was a good year. A very good year. And it was The Batman, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yes. Anything else?

No, that's the whole show. Great. Next week, something that isn't The Batman. What do you think it will be? Or year. And it was The Batman, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yes. Anything else? No, that's the whole show. Great. Next week, something that isn't The Batman. What do you think it will be? Or maybe it's hotter than The Batman takes. What do you think of this? I thought you were taking a photo of yourself. I knew it.

I was going to ask if you were just, you were looking at your phone, but I'm like, are you just taking a selfie? He was. I was. I was doing two things because I was also bringing up the thing. Wow. I think you should put that on Instagram. It's not very good though, is it?

That's why I'm asking you to put it up on Instagram. I don't think that makes me look very good at all. That's why I'm saying it. It's a bad angle. Yeah, yeah. It's not very good though, is it? That's why I'm asking you to put it up on Instagram. I don't think that makes me look very good at all. That's why I'm saying it. It's a bad angle. Yeah, yeah. It's really grey in this one. I've got bags under my eyes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know about this. This is what I look like. I walk around like this. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy.

Yeah, I mean, the lighting's really good in here. Good stuff. I think you should put it up with a caption, do I look really good here? I actually just deleted this. Okay, that's probably for the best.

All right. What is next week actually? I don't know. We're sneaking up on Mickey Morbius. Death on the Nile? No, Mason. No, they delayed Mickey Morbius again, didn't they? We could do Snake Eyes, yeah.

Snake Eyes again? Yeah. Have you already done a Snake Eyes episode without me? No, no, no. I'm saying they delayed Morbius again. Oh, I see, I see, I see. Let me check what's going on. Let me just go to the Hoyts Cinema website.

In the point of the podcast where nobody's listening anymore, yes, you should definitely do that. Hang on a fucking second, mate. No, actually, I've got a better thing I can do this. Okay. I've got my Caravan of Garbage list. Oh. Nothing.

Great. Nothing. I guess because they're giving Batman like a wide berth. So do a topic. That's fun. Do a topic. Cool. All right.

Thanks for listening, everybody. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. Oh, Snake. We'll do Snake Eyes. We'll do Snake Eyes. Yeah.

If you haven't watched it, watch it. The movie Snake Eyes. It's on your streaming service or you buy it. Spend real money on it. That's right. Spend real money on the movie Snake Eyes. No amount is too much money. Rent out your local.

What is it, $14.99? Yeah, just buy it. Cinemaplex. Rent one out. And you'll make it back in ticket sales. I think that's true, yeah. People will come. All right.

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