The Weekly Planet - 426 Best Movie & Series Spin-Offs

Episode Date: March 21, 2022

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.On Morbius-eve we take a look back at some of the best spin-off movies and TV Shows. Also news galore. Too much some say.Guess The Batman by the Savage Review: https://youtu.be/lEHIvAWV0ZY00:00 The Start03:49 Avatar 2 News07:53 Halo Trailer09:18 Ms. Marvel Trailer15:54 Nick Fury’s MCU Future17:32 Mason’s One Bit of News19:35 MCU Daredevil Reboot Series20:45 Harley Quinn Animated Spin-Off21:55 Scream Six Stuff25:19 Irredeemable Netflix Series31:08 Original Obi-Wan Kenobi Plans35:14 Damon Lindelof Star Wars Movie37:23 Best/Worst Movie & Series Spin-Offs01:23:48 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:30:10 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, but with me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. Absolute chaos in the podcast studio to start off with. You've set up a backup recording after the debacle that was last week. So for people who didn't listen last week, bloody where were you? We lost about an hour last week.

Some people are like, was that a joke? No. It was a joker in the sense we both got jokerised by it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it was quite late at night. Big time. Oh, no. And again, as people might remember, when we started doing this podcast,

we had a real rock and roll attitude of like, if we lose a bit of a podcast, we'll just be like, whatever, man. Who cares? If the podcast doesn't record, we'll just be like, whatever. People don't get an episode this week. But that was before anybody listened to it, when it was just us. And now we're like, oh, no, what if people stop? What if they don't come back?

What about the algorithm? Oh, no, what about SEO? So now what we've done is we've set up one of those little portable recorders. Backup zone. I mean, it won't sound good if we ever need to use it. No, it'll sound bad. In fact, the microphone on it's touching a cable directly there. Oh, wow, it's going to get a good buzz to it, I reckon.

Yeah. Anyways, it's a big cable directly there. Oh, wow. It's going to get a good buzz to it, I reckon. That's right. Yeah. Anyways, it's a big week this week for Newsmason. Would you like me to list the news that we're going to talk about? Yes, please. We've got Avatar 2 news. Oh, Avatar 2s. We've got Ms. Marvel news. Oh.

We've got a trailer. We've got Daredevil. Ms. Marvel. No, I don't have anything. No? That ran out very quickly. Oh, wow. That's great.

We've got what Nick Fury's been up to news. We've got Daredevil news. Now, when you say what Nick Fury's been up to news. We got Daredevil news. Now, when you say what Nick Fury's been up to, we'll get into it. Is this just what? Yeah, this is just me telling you what the news will be. This isn't just what Sam. This isn't, hey, stop and tell me about that news. Okay, but this isn't just what Sam Jackson reckons.

No, no, oh, yeah, sort of. It's both. I'm going to talk about a spin-off of the Harley Quinn TV series. Oh, yeah. The animation. Scream 6 news. Also something big with Boom Studios happening and Netflix. And then Star Wars, a couple of Star Wars news just to round things off.

And then in honour of Morbius, our Lord and Saviour, returning to the big screen. Because, of course, everybody remembers he was in a deleted scene for the original Blade movie. God bless him. He's out there. Wait, was he? Yeah, he was.

They look up and he's like, who's that? Oh, yeah. And it's like, that's Dr. Michael Morbius or whatever. That's a grip. They put a wig on him. Pretty much, yeah. He's like, I'm not moving. I just happen to be standing here.

Yeah, you could CGI it out or you could cut this whole thing. I don't care. Yeah, so we're going to be talking about excellent. I've got a 45-minute lunch break minimum. We've got to talk about spin-offs, both of TV shows and movies, that were a big success. Yeah. And next week, also in honour of Morbius,

we're going to talk about the worst spin-offs in Act or Pilot. We're going to squeeze all the content we can out of Morbius Month. That's right. It's Monthbius, folks. It's Morbius Month. Welcome's right. It's Monthbius, folks. It's Morbius Month. Welcome to Monthbius. Oh, my God. What a world we live in.

Because people are beating down the door out there being like, where's your Morbius content? Okay, do yourself a favor. Go to any official. What, are you stealing somebody's catchphrase? No. Who used to say that? Molly Maltrom.

Go to any Morbius official post's LA. It's Hey, It's LA. Go to any morbid, like, official post on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, whatever. Just read the comments. And there's a few people like, ooh, very excited. But most people are like, I fucking hate this guy. Why have you given this guy another franchise? Most people, most comments are bring back

the Snyderverse. Where's the Snyderverse? Yeah. Anyways, let's get into it, Mason. Let's do it. With Avatar 2 news. This is via Zoe Saldana. She was talking to People Magazine. You might have read this because I know you still subscribe.

You flick through a People Magazine. I don't. Over your Cheerios in the morning, don't you? In Australia, we call it Who Magazine, and maybe it's out of business now. Do we? Yeah, it's called Who Magazine because in Australia. Was there another People Magazine?

Yes. Is that right? Yeah. It's Crook, James. It's Crook. It's called Who Magazine because in Australia. Was there another People Magazine already? Is that right? Yeah. Wow. It's Crook, James. It's Crook. It's Crook Magazine. No, it's People Magazines.

I don't know if it still exists. Oh, it's one of those ones. It's an adult magazine. Oh, yeah. So when People Magazine came to Australia, they couldn't use People Magazine. It had to become Who Weekly. Yeah.

Was it one of those ones like send nude pictures of your girlfriend in magazine? Was it one of those ones? Yeah, it was one of those. Wow. That's great. So to answer your question, I do not have a subscription to People magazine. I thought that's where you were going with that.

You've got a subscription. You know, you may. I don't to either. No, you just read. Because print is dead. And you love Zoo magazine instead. I think that's also going out of business, right? The Lad magazine.

Yeah. I suspect a lot of these are still in business outside of Australia. Yeah, probably, I guess. Anyway, she was talking about, Zoe Saldana was talking about Avatar 2. She said, I can get choked up just talking about it. I was able to see 20 minutes of the second instalment right before the year ended last year and I was speechless. I was moved to tears.

Jim was finally able to crack that challenge. That whole thing, you can't imitate water virtually through performance capture. That was a challenge that he had taken upon himself and it took him years and he did it. He did it. It's powerful. It's compelling.

Now, I can't, like, at this point, I'm like, what is that? Yeah, right. I'm like, you saw water, okay. But, like, I know that's obviously not it. It's just that my brain can't think of what this could be. I mean, have we reached some sort of new quantum leap? That's what I'm talking about. Because that's what it sounds like.

Because if I saw some beautiful water in a motion-captured anything, I'd be like, that looks nice. Yeah. Everybody knows beautiful water peaked when that big boat went up in the perfect storm. Oh, yeah, of course. Remember that beautiful water? Yeah, I remember because Clo, yeah, of course. Remember that beautiful water? Yeah, I remember because Clooney says, man, that's a beautiful water.

I'm happy to say it. I'm happy to be killed by this beautiful water. Yeah. That's amazing. But, I mean, also, like, maybe Zoe Saldana had just done a long week of shooting on this movie and was. Exhausted. Exhausted and overwhelmed. Yeah, and was exhausted exhausted and and overwhelmed and

like is this anything and then and and cameron's like look at this and she's like that is amazing yeah yeah you know and i you know makes a lot of sense yeah show it to a real show it to a jaded internet critic and see if they say it's amazing exactly i thought that i just show it to cinema sins and see what they think ding ding ding ding ding So is this, a lot of this is motion capture. Is this motion capture developed independently of like a Weta workshop and all that sort of stuff? That's a great question. Are James Cameron and Andy Serkis mortal enemies, I wonder?

I don't think so. Or good time friends? I think Weta did Avatar 2. Avatar, the first Avatar as far as I'm aware. There you go. So principal photography for this began in 2017. So that was a long time ago. Is it wetter?

I don't know. It's all right. Look, I'm – Yeah, wetter involved in it. Okay. Don't give me Zoe Saldana. I mean, you know, that's a valid opinion. I'm excited to be – but, I mean, that's also a high bar.

Yeah, absolutely. Like the actors involved saying this is just overwhelming and exciting. She was in Avengers Endgame. Oh, yeah. How many explosions were there in that one? So many explosions. So, yeah, Weta Digital have commenced work in 2017. There you go.

I want to see Circus' opinion on this. Yeah. He's like, that is a good water. Yeah, or he's like. I've seen better water. I saw better water. I saw better water on Kong. Yeah.

Which one? Kong. Kong? Yes. Like the ball, like those bouncy balls, those rubber balls. Yes. Kong. Anyway, we'll see, end of the year.

Will we? Yeah. Okay. We must be getting a trailer for that soon, by at least mid-year, right? I hope so. Get some Avatar too. Anyways, we did get a trailer. Trailer's ahoy time, everybody.

Ms. Marvel on Disney+. First of all, so this is coming after both Moon Knight, which is starting this month, and then Kenobi, and then I think this one is the next on June 8th. And Halo, the series. Oh, yeah, which everybody's upset about, I think. Seems that way, yeah. Because what was it?

We'll just quickly, we can talk about this, where I think some screeners went out and it's like it's fine by all accounts. But, you know, that's first season, first few episodes. I'm willing to be like, yeah, something can be fine for three years. Sure, yeah. That's fine now, isn't it? I'll catch up with it when it becomes award winning.

Yeah. When Master Chief finally takes his helmet off at the Emmys when he's accepting the award. I think he's going to do that in the show though. And they also said that they're not really borrowing much from the first video game. It's more like the universe. So people are like, well, that's the point of that.

And I'm like, I don't, maybe. Maybe it is. We're borrowing mostly from the multiplayer version. So it's just like Spartans in like pink suits of arms with flames down the sides. Teabagging each other or whatever. Right. Yeah, absolutely. I think, look, if you're in an interview, I would just say,

even if I hadn't, yes, I played all of the games extensively. Oh, if you're an actor in the show. Oh, no, if I wrote it. I'd be like, and this is not only that, it's an extension of the lore that they've built around that. I'm a huge fan of the universe. Very nice, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's all you say. Yeah, I own my own warthog. I drive around

Hollywood with it. That's it. Anyways, back to Ms. Marvel. So the biggest thing for me is, well, a couple of things. It does have that high school aesthetic, which, you know, we very much saw in, like, Spider-Man, you know what I mean? That kind of thing going on. It's like, it's the 80s, but it's now, orMan, you know what I mean, that kind of thing going on. It's like it's the 80s but it's now or whatever. Do you know what I mean?

Sure, right, yeah, yeah. That thing. Or is that just teens? I don't know. It's like a John Hughes movie kind of thing. Exactly. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And she's Kamala Khan. They say Kamala or they say Kamala. Do they do both? We'll find out. They probably do both, yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure. But the question for me as well of this, a couple of things.

We heard that the powers are going to change the big stretchy powers. And it seems to be a mix of big stretchy powers and also Green Lantern the kind of... Energy constructs. Yeah. Interesting. Because I think they're going to do Mr. Fantastic. Well, there are a lot of theories about this.

When I say a lot, I mean like two-ish. One is that, as you said, they are going to bring in the Fantastic Four later and Mr Fantastic has stretchy powers and they don't want to kind of give that to a TV character, I guess, before they give it to a cinematic character. And it's easier to do? It's cheaper to do. A big hologram construct thing. Well, I mean, the other one is that stretching looks bad.

Yes. It's always looked bad. Yeah. And maybe they're still working on it for if they're doing a Fantastic Four movie. The thing about Ms. Marvel's powers, though, is that her power set is different from Mr. Fantastic's. Yes. She can, like, shapeshift into a couch if she wants to.

Yeah, exactly, yeah. Whereas Mr. Fantastic can do, like, a couch-like shape. Yeah. But, no, it's him. You can see his face. You can see his face. Yeah. Yeah, and she can sort of, she has more options.

She can shape change into, like, an exact copy of somebody if she wants to. Yeah, when she first starts superheroing, she just does it as Captain Marvel. Yeah. The Carol Danvers version, I should say, because she's like, nobody wants to see this version, so I'll just look like Carol Danvers. So it's interesting they went with, they didn't go with, okay, well, she's got shape-shifting powers and she can stretch sometimes

because that would make it significantly different from Mr. Fantastic. But instead they've gone with this energy thing. So it might be a case of. Or the other theory that I think makes a lot of sense is that she is definitely going to be in the Marvels, which is the next Captain Marvel movie. So it's going to be her and Photon from WandaVision. Yep. So to me it would make a lot of sense.

I need to say that. I know you know that. And her metaverse. They're all going to be in her metaverse. But it's probably because they're all going to go to space and it would make more sense. It's an easier fix if they're like, how are they going to get to this alien planet? Well, they all have energy flying

powers as opposed to one of them stretches and has to go on one of those little flying motorbikes. Sure. Well, I love little flying motorbikes. Right? Yeah, I'm a big fan. She's going to embiggen her head.

Yep. She's going to store a bunch of oxygen in it, and then they're all going to go out into space. Why not? Yeah. Absolutely why not? So it might be one of those things. Yeah.

And Brie Larson is going to be in this, right? I read somewhere an unsubstantiated rumor that she'll pop up. Did I say that? Yeah, it might have been you. Do you reckon she'll turn up and she'll be like, good job, do you want to go to space? Yeah. Put some oxygen in your head, we're going to space.

But I don't have that power. Well, you're going to have to learn that pretty quickly because we're literally leaving now. We're leaving now. It's very important we leave. Yeah, I'm very excited to recap all those and be like, maybe it's going to be episode two, maybe it's going to be in episode three. Yeah, absolutely.

Anyway, what did you think of the powers? I mean, yeah, look, I watched it on my phone a couple of times, but it looks fine to me, I guess. I'm not that married to the things that they changed like this necessarily. Right. I think if they get the character right, and also she's not that well-known as a character. I guess that's true.

And you can kind of. She's in that Avengers game you love. She's in the Avengers game that everybody hated. And she's good in that. Like, honestly, the story in that game I think is completely solid. What do you think is a character that if they did bring him to the screen and they changed it significantly, you wouldn't be okay with it? I think, like, the idea that she is Pakistani,

like the character is very much rooted in that, do you know what I mean? And the fact that this is what this particular superhero looks like and she's kind of fighting like with one of the comics at least, like that's how she's kind of unsure of herself as a person. That's part of the reason why because she doesn't look like the Carol Danvers version of her. And I think her heritage and all of those things, I think that's the really important stuff.

And if you tweak the powers slightly, it's like, yeah, who cares? If she came in and, I don't know, she just looked like Brie Larson. They just cast a young Brie Larson. It would be, well, why are we doing this? Like what's the point of this? For a backup Brie Larson. Oh, then, yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense. They probably should have done that in hindsight, you know.

You never know. You never know what could happen. Yeah, their powers look pretty. And now she's not's not an inhuman no she's got like she's got some sort of bracelet or maybe two i don't know so it may be a case of because again like previous captain marvels one captain marvel has something called the nega bands yeah mega bands and they they're like these there's a character who's not appeared in the MCU, which I think is interesting, called Rick Jones. Are we talking about Rick Jones? He is the kid that Bruce Banner rescued from being blown up

in the Gamma Bomb explosion, which caused Bruce Banner to become the Hulk. And Rick Jones sort of has become, he's sort of like a perennial sidekick over the years. He's been the Hulk sidekick. He's like Jimmy Olsen in the sense that he's like, he's done a lot of weird stuff. And at one point he was Captain Marvel's sidekick. He's like Jimmy Olsen in the sense that he's like he's done a lot of weird stuff and at one point he was Captain Marvel's sidekick in the sense that he wore these energy bands.

This is a different Captain Marvel. This is an alien Captain Marvel. And Captain Marvel was trapped in the negative zone and when he wanted to do superheroing stuff, Rick Jones had to like click his bracelets together and then they would switch places. Oh, okay. Well, I just looked up Rick Jones.

Is he in it? Well, he's mentioned in The Incredible Hulk and he's also mentioned in The Avengers apparently. He's mentioned in The Avengers. So there you go. There you go. I just was like, I wonder if he's actually, they've snuck him in somewhere.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Sometimes they'll sneak someone in. Sometimes they'll sneak someone in and you go, is that that guy? And then they change it later. Yeah. You're like, oh, well, no, it wasn't.

Like when Martin Starr, they were like, oh, that's Amadeus Cho. Yeah. And in The Incredible Hulk. And then they're like, actually, no, he's the teacher. He's the teacher. He's just a boring man. He's a boring, sad, divorced man or something. His wife hates him or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. But yeah, I mean, maybe they're the negative bands or something. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, because she gets inhuman gassed Doesn't she? She does, yeah Normally Yeah

Yeah And that's fun It's fun And also I didn't mention this Colleen, who edits this Put time codes below If you want to

That's terrific If you want to jump to our Morbius tribute later on But let's not go there just yet Me and you, Mason Let's not go there Yeah Because Sam Jackson

Has talked about What he's working on And he said He's playing Nick Fury In three different projects At the same time At the moment Okay So he's working on and he said he's playing Nick Fury in three different projects at the same time at the moment. Okay. So he's doing Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania.

He's also doing the Marvels and he's also filming Disney Plus' Secret Invasion. Have you seen that where he's got no eye patch in the beard? Yeah. Yeah. So is that his look for all of them? Is he switching them out in different? Great question, yeah.

I think these all take place around the same time. Okay. I'd imagine. And in the same room to save money. Yeah, in the same room. I wonder if the Marvels, how much the Marvels is going to tie into Secret Invasion because he's going into space at the end of one of the Spider-Man movies. And we don't know what he's doing.

Yeah. But he's also tied to Carol Danvers and the Kree and the Skrulls. Yes. So I wonder if Secret Invasion is more tied to the Marvel, like those two together. That would make sense. And, of course, then we've got, you know, Nick Fury kind of, you know, guy who tied the first phase of Marvel together and people like him generally

and then like, and here's the new stuff and new characters. Yeah. Here they are. And they worked, you know, they were a good team in Captain Marvel. So what was the first show you mentioned? Ant-Man. Ant-Man and a Quantumania. Yeah. Here they are. And they worked, you know, they were a good team in Captain Marvel. So what was the first show you mentioned? Ant-Man. Ant-Man and Quantumania. Yeah.

Great. Which Ant-Man movie is that? Two or three? That's three. Yeah. There was a second one. I remember the second one. Walton Goggins is in it.

Wally Goggins is in it. There was a little building. There was a little building, yeah. Yeah. So there you go. So they're all out next year. I think they're all next year. Or is Quantumania this year?

God, I don't know. Who knows? Did you see? I recently saw on Twitter it was the old Marvel slate. It was like back in the day. Oh, yeah, I didn't read that. So what was it? Is that Mason's one bit of news for this week?

It might be my one bit of news if I can find it again, but maybe not. I'll also do a quick Googs and we'll find out what's going on here, mate. There we go. But it was from, I think it might have been from... It's like the early 2000s. Oh, here it is. This is Marvel's film slate in 2004. Mason's one bit of news.

Mason's one bit of news. 2004, The Punisher. 2004, The Punisher. Sorry, 2004, their slate included The Punisher, Spider-Man 2, Man-Thing, Blade Trinity, Man-Thing. That's interesting.

Yeah. That's a bloody – 2005, Electro-Fantastic 4 and Iron Man in 2005. All right. 2006. But what is this though? Where did this come from? I don't know. Is this just – I mean was this the 2004 equivalent of just like one

of those film schedule Instagram posts that people put up and it's just a bunch of logos. That could have been, all that could be photoshopped as well, like I have no idea. 2006 includes Namor. Okay. And then upcoming releases includes Captain America, which we got, Silver Surfer, Fury, and Deathlock.

Fury? Yeah, just Nick Fury. Yeah, no, no, yeah. But I was trying, I'm like, when did they do that Hasselhoff thing? That was the 90s. That's interesting. I mean, some of this obviously got rolled into Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. got Deathlock and so forth. Silver Surfer

got tied into nothing. No, but of all those ones that are shown there, I've just found the tweet as well, they're all, like, I'm pretty sure from memory most of those were definitely in the works. God, look at that Iron Man marquee they used. Look at that Iron Man.

Yeah, that's the slipperiest Iron Man armor you're ever going to see. It's so slick. I love it. I'm a big fan of that. I am. Anyway, I think we did a little bit better than all of that. I think that might actually just be like a character model from an Iron Man video game.

Yeah, no, I don't think it's – no, it's nothing official by the looks of things. Would you like me to tell you about what Production Weekly said about Daredevil? Who are Production Weekly? It's not important. It's fine. Yeah, yeah.

In Australia, it's a rude magazine, but I don't know what it is. So Daredevil reboot is apparently in the works and it's probably a series. Okay. And it's probably a reboot. So that's all the information we have. I'd rather a movie, to be honest. Like let's just get like, you know, we've seen a lot of Daredevil

like, you know, stretched into a series. Give him a movie. Give him a movie. Give him a little movie again. Exactly. We've had enough backstory. Well, I mean, you know, I mean, if it's going to be Charlie Cox again, and there's no way it's not going to be Charlie Cox again,

we've seen the rise of the character. We've seen, you know, him evolving into the character. Yes. You know, it's on Disney Plus now, and I'm sure a lot of people are discovering now because of No Way Home. So I think everybody would be aware of it. Yeah. I mean, that being said, if it's a reboot, you know,

we haven't seen a single scaric of it yet. No. So if it's a reboot where it's just like, hey, it's me, I'm Matt Murdock and I'm a lawyer and I'm also Daredevil. I've been Daredevil for a while. Yeah. Great. Great.

Really good stuff. You're a fan of the Harley Quinn series, Mason. Yes, I am. This is via Slash Film. They spoke to Patrick Schumacher, who is a writer, one of the writers and creative forces behind Harley Quinn. He talked about a particular spin-off, and it's going to be for Kite Man. Love it.

So he said he tries to run a bar by himself, and it doesn't turn out so easy. We have Harley and Ivy appear in the first episode, but after that we have different goons and villains appearing. Every episode, like Lex, Luther and Bane, it'll be like Cheers for Supervillains. We have an episode that's a big love letter to Batman the Animated Series. We even got some original backgrounds from that show

that we used in the episode. Oh, on the black paper. That's right. Just a black sheet of paper. That sounds awesome. That sounds great. That's really cool. I really like that show.

Speaking of spin-offs, that's a real. If Cheers was a spin-off of Frasier. Yes. But it isn't. No, it's not. If only. If there was only some connective tissue between those two things. Anyway, that sounds great. And I'm loving that DC animation's just like...

Whatever. What a great. This sounds really good. Yeah. I do like that. They're really not bothering to tie everything in. They're just like, everything's separate and get over good. Yeah. I do like that how, yeah, they're really not bothering to tie everything in. They're just like everything's separate and get over it. Yeah. Yeah. Good.

Did you watch the new Scream? I did not watch the new Scream. I watched the new Scream. I thought it was very good. I talked about it. Would you say it was a Scream? Yes. I would say that.

I don't like how it was called. Would you say you Scream for ice cream? No. I would say. What, not at all? No. Huh. It's just food.

I'm not Screaming for food. I was in the supermarket the other day and they had ice cream for dogs. What's that look like? You believe? I don't know. I didn't open a container of it. You didn't have a look? I didn't have a look.

There's a picture of a dog on it. What's in it? Great question. Yeah. You can't just give a dog regular ice cream, I assume. I mean, you probably can, but they're all probably lactose intolerant. Yeah, and no chocolate, et cetera. That's true.

And the chocolate ice cream, not my favorite. I'm not going to lie. You? Also not my favorite. I'm not going to lie. You? Also not my favorite. I like it in a mixture. Sure, yes. Don't get me wrong. I'll mix it into something else for me.

I'm having a good day. But anyway, I liked Scream 5 despite not screaming for it or ice cream. I wish they just didn't call it Scream. Just straight up. That's a no, yep. But whatever. A sequel, though, has been greenlit, Scream 6, for March of 2023. The directors of Matt Bettinelli, Alpen, and Tyler Gilbert are returning.

They also did Ready or Not. Ah, yeah. And I think now is probably the good time to bring back, what's his name, the guy who plays Shaggy? Oh, Matthew Lillard. Matthew Lillard. Apparently he was supposed to. So he's not in the last one.

Who's to say, Matthew? Or you're saying maybe time to bring him back or back again. Yes, that's right. Okay, all right. So he was also supposed to come back for the third one initially, but then after Columbine he was in jail teaching high schoolers how to, like, kill other high schoolers. So they're like, oh, we're not going to do that, actually.

We'll do a different version of Scream 3. Oh, the character was, not the actor Matthew Lillard. You're both. That was a wild sense for me because I didn't know where you were going for saying you were like, he was in jail and I'm like, Matthew Lillard was in jail? And then you're like, teaching high schools and I'm like, oh, he was teaching high schoolers in jail.

That's very, very noble. Maybe teaching them acting, how to kill each other. What? No. So, and Scream 3 is not great. That would have definitely been a better version. So I think they'll bring it back. That's the tagline, Scream 3, and the 3 is the E, not great,

and the E is the 3. And the E is the 3. So, yeah, everybody who's still alive in that series, not to spoil it, is returning. Yeah. I'll get it. Good. Maybe I'll watch it this week.

I was going to watch House of Gucci this week. I'll watch that. What do you think? It's fine. Great. I wish it was better. Like it's good performances except for one. Okay.

And it's a very compelling story, but it's just kind of like, I don't know. It's just kind of not. It's okay. It feels like it would have been better as a series even maybe. I don't know. It's just kind of not. It's okay. It feels like it would have been better as a series even maybe. I don't know. Anyways. And it's like a beautiful looking film and you'll love the fashions.

I love the fashions. And I loved finding out about the histories of the family and all those different things. I'm like, this is really interesting, is it? There's a murder plot in the world of Gucci, I'm pretty sure. And that's what I mean. So, like, it's okay. I just wish I could be like, it's terrific.

Is Tom Ford in it? He might be. Or he's mentioned at least. I don't know. Maybe he's not. Let me check. I'll leave it for you to find out. I reckon Justin Theroux would be a good young Tom Ford.

Okay. Okay. Keep that in mind. The House of Gucci 2. Okay. Monsters Unleashed. And the monster is Tom Ford? Yeah.

Okay, good. Boom Studios. They apparently signed a first look deal with Netflix a while back. Now, for people who don't know, Boom Studios is a comic book studio that basically do a lot of comic books that are like, maybe this could be a movie, hey? What do you reckon about this?

Okay. Next one. What about Berserker? We got Keanu Reeves. Can that be a movie? Good, fine, yeah, fuck. We'll do it. Not to say that there aren't a lot of good Boom Studios comic books,

but I think they were built sort of from the outset to be like, we're a bloody multimedia extravaganza over here. Yeah, that's what we think. Anyway, what are these idiots up to? They have- The usual gang of idiots. There's a movie developing for Netflix from the director of The Harder They Fall, James Samuel. Oh, that was a good movie.

I agree. And it's irredeemable, the comic. Oh, yeah, right. But also incorruptible. And that to me is like, oh, that's a lot. Well, yeah, so again, I think we've definitely mentioned this on the podcast but irredeemable is a is a um boom studios comic he's homelander but he's he's completely snapped well yes that's true he's superman also yeah he's like a superman like the idea of like he's super

powerful and he can really do anything but it's like i mean the idea is i guess that superman was raised by two you two very loving parents in a nice environment and they taught him right from wrong and he was also emotionally capable of handling an entire world that is always asking for his help all the time. And this is a guy who is not capable of that. Or he is for a while, but then he just – I don't think that's a spoiler. The first issue of the comic book, it's just him just,

he's been a superhero for years and years and years, and then one day he just snaps and starts murdering everybody. Yeah. By everybody, I mean like whole countries. It's millions. Yeah, and so it's basically all the remaining heroes of the world attempting to find a way to stop him. And Incorruptible is about a former supervillain who decides

in the wake of all this he's going to start doing good. And his superpower is he becomes more indestructible the longer he's awake. But the longer he's awake, it's very taxing. You get drowsy. You can't operate heavy machinery. And if he falls asleep, his powers, like as soon as he wakes up,

he's a normal guy. So they're different runs. Yeah, they are. Did they run concurrently? I can't remember. I don't think they did. Maybe they had one started and the other one picked up. Yeah, it was Irredeemable and then it was Incorruptible,

but I don't know if they are both. There may have been some crossover. And there is crossover, but also that comic is not about the Incorruptible guy stopping Irredeemable. No, it's separate, yeah. They've got their own separate. Like they cross over and they meet. Yes. But it's not one defeating the other no that's true um yeah he the the guy the incorruptible guy whose name i his code name i can't remember yeah he is not

he would not be capable of stopping this no again he's it's like and that's the point like nobody is yeah it's like it's it's superman versus uh the point like nobody is yeah it's like it's it's superman versus uh spider-man maybe yeah superman versus spider-man maybe yeah something like that yeah something like that or like what the absorbing man yeah similar but yeah it's really about and it's and it's an interesting again it's it's one of those worlds where it's like a it's it's like a dc or a marvel you've got the superman-esque character and you've got some, you know, Batman-style vigilantes and you've got, you know, a guy who can control technology with his mind and so on and so forth. And there's, you know, demons and magic and all the tropes.

And it's a really good, I think it's a really well-built universe. It's Mark Waid, I think, wrote it. But, yeah, the concern you posited just then is like that's a lot of stuff. Yeah. And I think I mentioned in recent weeks we got Jupiter's Legacy on Netflix. That's what I was going to say as well. Which is a similar universe. It's a big universe with a lot of stuff.

I think it's really interesting. But people were just not into that for, you know, I think for pacing reasons. Yeah. And I think that people went into Jupiter's Legacy for pacing reasons and I think that people went into Jupiter's Legacy for pacing reasons and because a lot of what we saw that was superheroes, half of the show was not superhero stuff. It was on a boat. And the other half, the superhero stuff was not particularly thrilling.

And look, as I mentioned at the time, I didn't mind it. I liked it, yeah. I would have seen a second season of it. But I also feel like we've already got Invincible and we've got The Boys and we had Jupiter's Legacy. So it's superheroes gone bad. Yeah, now we're doing this. But it's like, also they're like at least like 40 issues each.

Yeah. I'd imagine. But this is probably the start of that, I'd imagine. But I don't know. I don't know about this. I mean, maybe it's a case of like we're going to do Irredeemable and if this is a runaway hit, we'll also do Incorruptible. I would like that.

But they specifically say that they're merging them. Okay, right. Oh, yeah, okay. I mean, you could put – I think that would be interesting if you went, okay, well, here's the Superman gone bad and here's the heroes trying to stop him and here's this guy and he used to be a villain but now he's turned his life around and he's on the team trying to stop him, and he is this guy, and he used to be a villain, but now he's turned his life around, and he's on the team trying to stop him.

I think that would work. It's mostly superheroes, like the minor ones, when the guy shows up, they jump into a portal because they can't fight him. So, like, yeah, the portal is here. Maybe I'll reread that this week. That's such a good series. But I guess the advantage of this is it does hit the ground running.

Yeah, that is true. It is entire nations being plunged into the ocean straight away. So I think if that doesn't get people's attention, nothing will, I don't think. And I like the director as well. I guess you're right in the sense that it is a saturation of like we've done...

What if we had a Superman movie? What if they just did a Superman movie at this point? There's been a decade of Marvel and DC stuff and now we've shifted very hard into the era of, okay, what if superheroes but bad? What would happen then? Yeah. Are people like, yes, we love this?

I guess they are because obviously people liked Invincible. Yeah. But are we also going to hit a saturation point where people go, we've seen this, we get it? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. It's a good take, though.

People should. I can believe they're great. Do you like Star Wars? News? Yeah, I know. I know. It's a good take, though. People should. I completely agree. Do you like Star Wars? News? Yeah, I guess. This is by the Hollywood Reporter. Sorry, I was choking on a chicken bone. You weren't eating chicken.

It's from earlier. Okay. I was eating it on the way here. That's why I was late. This is by a THC. On a bus. Just a bag of chicken. A greasy chicken on a bus. This a bag of chicken. A greasy chicken on a bus.

This is by The Hollywood Reporter. So this is a bit roundabout, so just give me a minute. I can't. I'm excited for this. Should I interrupt while you're trying to explain it? Yeah, that'll do. So series creator Deborah Chow gave The Mandalorian's Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau early script for Obi-Wan.

Okay, sure, sure, sure. And they were concerned that it was going to be covering similar ground as The Mandalorian because the story was centered around Kenobi coming out of hiding. And meeting The Mandalorian. That's right, saying, hello, Mandalorian. I'm Moby-Wan, Ben Kenobi, actually. No, he's Moby-Wan.

It's me, Moby-Wan. He's trying out new nicknames. He's trying out new assumed names. It's me, Moby-Wan Kenobi. He's got to protect a young Luke Skywalker with Darth Maul acting as one of the villains hunting them down. Vader was reportedly not initially involved. Filoni and Fabbro apparently encouraged her to go bigger with the series before the creative

overhaul removed Darth Maul entirely and avoid previously chosen to play child-aged Luke Skywalker who has been replaced by Grant. Fearly. So what they're basically saying was the early draft of that and there was stories about how they scrapped a bunch of it. We talked about this last week because it was too dark because they didn't particularly like the direction of the story or whatever, so it's been retooled into the Inquisitors and Darth Vader's back and all of those things.

But also it doesn't make sense because Darth Maul, like for the canonical Star Wars stuff, Darth Maul is dead and he already faced Obi-Wan Kenobi on Tatooine. Right, okay. And I know this is set before, but he did it prior. But in Rebels, he didn't know he was even alive by the time they ran into him. Right, okay.

Right. So I also... Does he have the robot legs or no robot legs? He has got the robot legs. Okay, great. Or sometimes he's a spider? Sometimes he's a spider. He's a robot spider?

Can he do both? No, I don't think so. You can't do it General Grievous style? No, I think you can get some switched out for regular robot legs. But Pablo. So these are the garage dudes like this is going to cost you. Yeah. Why don't you just get regular legs in the first place?

Look, spider legs were very popular at the time, right? That's right, exactly. Yeah, it's like the sleeve tattoo of the Star Wars universe. That's right. Or the face tattoo. Or the face tattoo. Pablo Hidalgo, who does a bunch of stuff at Star Wars, he wrote in a tweet,

a brown sunrise's bullshit has been spilled, saying that this is not true. What does that mean? It's not true. And he would know. Hang on, which part? All of this. That this has been changed, okay. Yeah, but also I don't believe also that she would go away,

they would say go and write these scripts for Darth Maul and then they come back and she comes back and they're like, no, we can't do this. Like she would have said I'm going to. They would have told her an event. They would have told her an event. What characters are available in the timeline. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, so apparently it's not true. You can't have Darth Maul, but you can have the crime lord lady from Solo. That's right. You can have Paul Bettany, just the actor Paul Bettany. Yes, you can have Darth Maul's legs, his early spider legs, which he left at the shop when he got them replaced. Yeah, and they also talked about how, like, Ray Park apparently came in and whatever.

And I think maybe there's some crossed wires here. Maybe this is another project. Oh, I see, yeah. With Darth Maul and Ray Park and whatever. So I think that's because THR, they're pretty reputable. So I'd say that's probably what's happened here. Yeah, it seems, I mean, I can understand that they might go, oh, we can't use Darth Maul for whatever reason,

so we'll change it. But I can't imagine they would say at the outset, you can use Darth Maul, and then she writes Darth Maul, and then they're like, don't use Darth Maul. Yeah, we actually, you got that wrong. That was a test. I can absolutely say, no, I can absolutely say, see higher ups going like, you made a mistake here.

We said you could use Darth Maul, but you made a mistake in using Darth Maul. Sorry. Oh, it's interesting here as well, before we get into the topic. It says more Star Wars news. All right. No, you're excited, remember? I was excited.

No, James, I'm still excited. I love Star Wars. There we go. It's by The Ankler. They said that David Lind'm still excited. I love Star Wars. There we go. It's by The Ankler. They said that David Lindelof is working on a Star Wars film in some capacity. Did you say Damon Lindelof? Damon Lindelof. Yeah, that's what I said.

I said it right. Everybody heard me say it right too. Damon Lindelof working on Star Wars. Now, of course, we talked about this before. He's copped flack for Lost and Prometheus and whatever, but he also did The Leftovers. He also did the recent Watchmen series, both of which are terrific. Yeah.

So anyway, if this is true. Is The Leftovers based on something? Is it based on a book? I don't know, actually. We've probably talked. Have you watched The Leftovers yet? No, I haven't. No, I watched like the first episode.

That's very good. Leftovers series book, question mark? Hello? You're going to get a lot of cookbooks that are like, how do you use your leftovers? Based on the novel of the same name. You're absolutely right. That might be it.

If we're talking Watchmen, we're talking... I guess that's not true because the Watchmen series is all new. Yeah, exactly. And the leftovers presumably is the book, is the basis and then they did three seasons of it? Three seasons, exactly. And the leftovers presumably is the book is the basis and then they did three seasons of it. Three seasons, yeah.

So I guess maybe that's his strength is a base. Like somebody's already established the rules and then he just sort of bounces off that. Yeah, you're right. And like, I mean, because, yeah, obviously you mentioned like the Watchmen already exists and he made more Watchmen. He did. And in my opinion and your opinion and a lot of people,

not everybody's opinion, but most people think that it's very good. Yeah. And it's Watchmen. Like nobody should get that right. Like how did he do it? Great, great point. It's better than the adaptation of Watchmen. Yes.

That adhered pretty much to the whole thing. Yeah, and I like that movie, but yeah. Because he brought the squid back. Yes, he did. And that was the whole thing. Yeah, and I liked that movie. Because he brought the squid back. Yes, he did. And that was the biggest deal to me, I think, at the time, how they brought that squid back. Yeah. Jeremy Irons was shooting clients or something.

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Yeah, that's exciting. As we celebrate, as is our faith. That's right. And Morbius being a Spider-Man spin-off movie, I guess, even though he is a character in his own right. He's in Spum. Yes, he's part of the Spum. Now that's what I call Spum.

We thought let's talk about this week, as we mentioned up top, the best spin-off both movies and TV shows and Backdoor Pilots and other things. Basically you take an established piece of media and you go, hmm, what about this character in a different thing or whatever? Sure. Certainly doesn't always work, but there's a lot of. I think it always works, and I think these examples

are going to prove that it always works. That is certainly true. I'd like to start off with something which we've got news of this week is that Judd Apatow is working, it looks like he's going to work on a This Is 50 movie. Is he? So This Is 40, which is the previous movie to this, is a spin-off of Knocked Up.

That's true. And I think This Is 40 is better than Knocked Up. Maybe it's because I am now closer to 40 than I was to now. But I always thought there was like a really solid spin-off movie and one of his better ones. And reading this interview with him, he's talking about how and people kind of start discovering him more as they get close to 40 and they're like, I'm going to watch this movie.

They're like, oh, no, this is me. I'm Paul Rudd. Oh, no. I'm Leslie Mamm and I'm not as good looking. But I'm the Eric Banner of this movie. No, that's a different movie. Which one's Ian? That's the Adam Sandler one.

Oh, Funny People. Funny People. Okay, right. Which is, it's okay. It's too long. Nevertheless, I'm the Eric Banner of this movie. I agree. Have you seen This Is 40?

No, but I have seen The Dry, the movie. The Dry, the Eric Banner movie. What do you think? I liked it. Yeah. I agree. Have you seen This Is 40? No, but I have seen The Dry, the movie. The Dry, the Eric Banner movie. What do you think? I liked it. Yeah. I didn't mind it either. I mean, it was a quiet Australian town, has a dark secret. Yeah.

Which is most Australian movies and books. That's true. In TV series. Normally it's drugs. And I don't think that one's drugs? No, it was... Don't spoil it. I won't spoil it.

I can't really say it. I read the book, though, as well. The book is better. I mean, shock. That's the thing that everyone't spoil it. I read the book as well. The book is better. I mean, shock. That's the thing that everyone always says. But I liked the movie quite a bit. And, you know, it wasn't – the movie obviously wasn't true to the book because the book is always like brave federal police agent

who looks nothing like Eric Banner. That's how they keep describing him. Exactly. Now – Mate, I don't bloody trust you. You're a bloody You've left this little town and you've come back still not looking like Eric Banner

In this town we all look like Eric Banner but you never did I like Eric Banner I do also I like how he looks like Eric Banner as well It's one of my favourite things about him I guess if we're talking like in the world of Judd Apatow, Get Him to the Greek

is a spin-off of Forgetting Sarah Marshall. I think it's bad. The movie. Did we? I think we've reviewed it maybe a million years ago. Did we? I reckon we did. Get Him to the Greek. I think it came out in like 2010 didn't it? Okay. Let me figure it out. Well, we've definitely discussed it in our real lives. What do you not like about it? I don't

I think that they made. That came out in 2010. I don't think we reviewed it. We would have talked about it. Yeah. I didn't like Get Him to the Greek because they, I think the character whose name I cannot recall, Russell Brand's character in Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

Aldous Snow? Aldous Snow. There we go. I think he had a lot more nuance in the original thing. Yeah. And when they brought it over to his own movie, I think they like flattened him out into a cartoon character. Okay, yeah, that's fair.

Yeah, I can understand that. And they make him more of like an Oasis parody kind of person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think in the original he was sort of, I don't know, he seemed. Well, he's not a major character in that movie. Oh, that's true, yeah. He's not a major character. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There didn't need to be as much to him, but he seemed like a kind of vapid character, but who was also kind of like an entertainment industry veteran. Like he had a certain intelligence about him. Like when they made him get up and sing a song at the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever, because they're all at an island resort in the first one. And they're like, oh, why don't you get up and do one of his songs?

And he's like, oh, I hate this. This is like work for me. Oh, fuck. And then he gets up and he's like, hey, everybody, how you going? Yeah, right, right. But I think he sort of became... I just remember him thinking he was sort of like a Bugs Bunny character in his own version.

But do people like that movie? Probably. I didn't mind it. So Jonah Hill's in it also. Jonah Hill's in it also. And Puff Daddy. And Puff Daddy and June from Handmaid's Tale is also in it. Oh,

the main character? The main character. From Mad Men. The lady. The lady. What is her name? It doesn't matter. She's in The Invisible Man. Elizabeth Moss. God damn it. God damn it, Elizabeth Moss. Yeah, Claire was the other day.

She's like, I never remember anything. Is she saying this of you? No, no, of herself. She's like, I can never remember people's names and things and dates or whatever. And I'm like, that happens to me and Mason at least like once an episode. Yeah. Where we both completely blank on something like at the same time. Yeah.

On purpose because it increases engagement. That's right. Because people email in immediately. On purpose because it increases engagement. That's right. Because people email in immediately. And it makes us appear human. We just get 100 emails a week that just say Elizabeth Moss. Yes. And this week they're going to be relevant. And if we know everything, we're just awful nerds.

We're trying to appear more relatable by forgetting things. That's right. Also, like, you know, you also said that you love Russell Brand and you love everything he does. No, I don't. That's actually not true. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, okay. I've also said that you love Russell Brand and you love everything he does. No, I don't. That's actually not true. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, okay.

I've never said that. You're thinking of... I've actually put this down as one of your favourite Russell Brand spinoffs. Wow. Yeah, is that not true? I mean, I guess by default it has to be one of my favourite Russell Brand spinoffs. Yeah.

Anyways, I haven't seen this one, but we have covered the mummy movies, The Scorpion King. Have you seen that? I reckon I've seen at least one Scorpion King movie. Yeah. The one with the rock? Yes. Okay.

Is he not in multiple ones? No. There are multiple Scorpion King sequels. He's only in one of them. I haven't seen it. Yeah. And the mummy universe technically still exists because they keep making those movies even though nobody's in them anymore.

Wait. So is the Tom Cruise, Russell Crowe, The Mummy, is that in the same universe? That's also in the same universe, yes. Is it definitively in the same universe or is there just some sort of crossover? It's just that book. There's the book, okay. I think it is the same universe.

Okay. I mean, if the book is, unless there were two different books. It's a shame that, like, it's not just that the movie got less interesting. It's like that entire continuity got less fun. You wouldn't want to live in that modern era. You'd want to live in the 30s where everybody's having a fun adventure. Everyone's having a shot and shooting a mummy or whatever. Yeah, exactly.

What would you say of Deadpool? What do you consider that to be? Oh, is it an X-Men spin-off? I mean, it's an X-Men solo movie. And I guess you could say the same of The Wolverine, because we want to talk about Wolverine Origins, which I think is a spin-off, I would say so, right? Yes.

I guess. But is Deadpool the solo movie? Oh, yes. Is that a spin-off? Or is that like a restart? Because it's in the continuity mostly, sort of, I think. Great question. Sidequel?

It is kind of a sidequel, isn't it? I don't know. Maybe we'll just move it along. I don't think, no, I think we should drill down on this forever. What constitutes a spinoff? That's what I'm saying. So you take a minor character from a mainline thing. Then it's a different Deadpool, isn't it?

It's the same actor though, isn't it? Yeah. It is a different Deadpool, but it's also he visits that universe at one point and kills himself or whatever in Deadpool 2. And also that would be a spin-off of a spin-off because it's already a spin-off character. Oh, X-Men Origins Wolverine. So I don't know, does that count?

I mean, that's still a spin-off, isn't it? Would Deadpool the movie exist without the previous X-Men movies coming out? I'd say probably, yeah. You think so? They probably would eventually go around to it. Oh, true. But I don't know. Anyway, let's definitively say whatever you think at home, you're right.

That's right. We believe in you. Now, this is a big one. That's the most important takeaway from this episode, I think. Let's do a couple of TV ones. Frasier. Frasier. Frasier.

All right. Again, I have to ask, are you doing that on purpose? Whatever you think, that's what I'm doing. You're the listener at home. All right. So why don't you explain the continuity of Frasier? Okay. Yeah.

Is that what people hear from? Where did it come from? What is it? Well, Frasier. Yeah. Frasier Crone was one of the barflies at the Cheers bar. How much play did he get in that show? He was on every episode pretty much.

But, like, is he getting a lot of his own episodes? Storylines. Storylines and stuff. I haven't seen a lot of Cheers. I've seen a lot of Fraser. I think, no, I would say side character at best. I don't think he got his own. Little adventures.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You weren't looking at him in the outside world. No, no, no. You don't go to his office. I don't think so, no. Was he a shock jock in that as well? Like a radio, not a shock jock, you know what I mean? No, he was just a regular psychiatrist.

Okay. Yeah. Okay, fair enough. As bloody regular a psychiatrist can be, am I right? Wow, they're all a bit, they're all a bit, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then he moved to Seattle. Yes, he did.

And got that beautiful view of the skyline. That's right. Space Needle. And then he became not a shock jock. No. Any relationship? Yeah, giving some real bad advice to people. Shouldn't be giving advice over the radio, I don't think.

Well, I think that. It's amazing nobody got some bad advice from him and came to his studio and murdered him. And stabbed him, yeah. You're absolutely right. I think they might be bringing that back. I mean, it's the era of it, isn't it? Bringing stuff back.

Here's, I think, one of the best spin-offs of all time, Mason. Okay. And it's about to hit its final season. You better call Saul. You better give him a call. It's not what it's called. What? Anyway, it's a prequel. I'd recommend you call Saul you better give him a call it's not what it's called what? anyway

it's a prequel I'd recommend you call Saul it's both a prequel and a and a spin off to the original Breaking Bad series do you think there's going to be a satisfying conclusion to this?

yes is this also Vince Gilligan who produced and wrote and created the first one it's all him? there's a bunch of characters that reappear both minor and major

but mostly minor you know and I think it's I think they picked like the perfect character to spin off from Characters that reappear, both minor and major, but mostly minor. And I think they picked the perfect character to spin off from as well. What's always struck me about that world is every person you meet feels like they're on their own little awful adventure. Yeah. Even if they're in and out of a scene. Okay.

You know what I mean? Like Bill Burr's in that show. That's true, yeah. It's like just people I mean? Like Bill Burr's in that show. That's true, yeah. It's like just people. What happens to Bill Burr in Breaking Bad? Does he live? Maybe. I don't remember to be honest.

Yeah. Because it was him. He was like one of the, he was like a sort of, it was him and another guy was sort of low level like. They're the lying in money guys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, just everybody feels like a complete character.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Not just, you know, Dr. Zag yeah, just everybody feels like a complete character. You know what I mean? Yeah. Not just, you know, Doctor's the guy who shows up to get shot every week or whatever. So, anyway, I think it's terrific and, you know, fleshes out that character a lot. And what's his name? The guy's name.

I'm doing it on purpose. Ryan Cranston. No, the Better Call Saul guy. Oh, Mr. Call Saul. Mr. Call Saul. Bob Odenkirk. Bob Odenkirk. That's just me being relatable. It's fantastic. Like of all the people to pick.oulthall. Bob Odenkirk. Bob Odenkirk. That's just me being relatable. It's fantastic.

Like of all the people to pick. I watched Nobody for the first time very recently. I liked it. Yeah. But it really is such a dad. It's such a dad action movie where it's like, imagine every step of it is like, imagine if teens on the bus were hassling you,

but you were a cool special forces guy and your dad is Christopher Lloyd and your brother is the RZA from Wu-Tang Clan. Is that what it is? Yeah. Have you not seen it? No, I haven't seen it. I thought you had. No, I haven't.

I've been wanting to see it. Okay. As we talked about when we saw the trailer, that's a movie that I would not watch if Bob Odenkirk wasn't in it. Oh, I could have sworn you had watched it. No, I haven't seen it yet. It's on everything at the moment. It is, yeah. So I will watch it. Oh, I could have sworn you had watched it. No, I haven't seen it yet. It's on everything at the moment. It is, yeah.

So I will watch it. It gets a bit silly at the end. It gets a bit, you'd think it's going to be grittier than it is and it gets a bit Hollywood towards the end. Fair enough. I think they do another one as well. What about Creed? Very successful spinoff, I feel.

You know what I mean? I mean, they're essentially Rocky sequels, but are they? Yes. He's right. They are. They don't count? Yeah. They don't count? Are they sp don't count as spin-offs?

No, they're spin-offs, yeah. Okay. Because they're not called Rocky. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, I think it's basically taking, you know, everything that was good about Rocky and continuing it, you know. Do you think Creed is a compelling character as Rocky? I think, yeah.

I think also he's different, which is important. You know, he doesn't have the same like rags to riches kind of story. You know what I mean? He does have this like, because Rocky came from nowhere, whereas Creed is like a legacy character, well, not character, person, you know, because of who his father is or whatever. You know what I mean? They're coming from a different perspective.

They've got different reasons to prove things to themselves and others. You know what I mean? Do you think they could do another spin-off? From Creed or Rocky? Like the Drago boys. Yeah, the Drago boys. I think they have talked about that, haven't they? I think that would be fascinating.

Or the robot. The son of the robot. Well, they took the robot recently out of... He re-cut Rocky 3. They took the robot out. The robot's son's not going to be happy. The robot's son's not going to be happy about that, is he? It was Rocky 4 they recut, right? Yeah, I think so.

I think Stallone recut. He's what he did over lockdown. He's like, all right, I'll just do this. I reckon that's what I'll do. I'll go to that robot. I don't know. Is there anybody else in there that you think is? Son of Rocky.

Yeah. What's he up to? He's living with his dad. He caught up with his dad. Yeah, I know, but what do you do in between? I want to see the adventure. He works at like a law firm or something. I don't care.

I want to see the adventures of Rocky's son and everybody's always asking about Rocky sometimes, but then Rocky's, you know, level of fame dropped and then people are asking him less about Rocky and more about like, you know, court stuff. Oh, and he's like, I wish people would ask me about Rocky. Yeah, yeah. My father Rocky. Would you like to see him get in a fight occasionally?

Yes. Because he knows a little bit of Rocky stuff. Just a little bit. That's what they call it in that universe. They don't call it boxing. They call it Rocky stuff. Rocky was so famous in the Rocky universe. That's the only difference between the real world and that world

is they call it Rocky stuff. That's right. Ah, who knew that Rocky Balboa would come back and do Rocky stuff, back in the world of Rocky stuff? Not me. Apparently Rocky's done, though. Like, he's not in the next Craig movie. Oh, interesting.

Which I think Michael B. Jordan is directing as well. Here's one, James, that I think you would like a lot. Oh, here we go. And I'm fascinated by it because I have the vaguest of memories of this. Okay. Mork and Mindy. Yeah, there's a couple of those. Have you written Mork and Mindy?

I've got Mork and Mindy and Laverne and Shirley. And Joanie Loves Chachi, but I don't remember that one at all. No. I don't think we got that one. They're all Happy Days spin-offs. Yeah, but it's fascinating to me because Happy Days was set in the Happiest of Days. The Happiest of Days, the 50s and 60s.

Yeah. And they just did an episode where they're like, let's have a spaceman show up and it's Mork. Yes. And then people liked Mork so much. Originally I think it was a dream. Yeah. But then I think in like there's like re-edits of it where he was.

Like when Mork and Minnie came out, I think they re-edited that episode for like, you know, like syndication or whatever. Right. So he was real. Okay. But he erased all their memories in the episode. Okay.

But it's wild that they went. Does she know he's an alien? Yes. And they just live together. Correct. Is that what he looks like or has he got a human skin? Oh, good question. I don't think there'd be room.

Have you seen how tight his shirts are? It's a very tight shirt but, you know, I don't know. I don't know how the alien, you know, physiologically works. But I guess he was from but it suggests then that he was originally – What's he doing? Well, he's observing Earth, people. So he's third rocking from the sun. He's third rocking from the sun, exactly.

But it's fascinating to me because he existed in the happy days era, but then he also existed in this like the 70s, 80s era, which suggests that either he – Oh, yeah. But did she? Who? Mindy? Yeah. No, Mindy was from the modern day at the time.

Okay, so she wasn't in the original Happy House. No, it was just Mork. Oh, wow, okay, that's interesting. Yeah. A lot of pressure there. If you've already got beloved character Mork and who's your Mindy, it's a lot of pressure on Mindy. I'll do it.

Oh, you'd be Mindy? Yeah, I'll do it, I reckon. You'd be Mandy, though, because you're a man. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. But I think it's about- Did you watch any of these shows? Yeah, I watched Happy Days and also Mork & Mindy. They were on TV when I was a kid.

Yeah. And when you were a kid. Yeah, I know. I never really- It was like that. It would have been like 3.30 in the afternoon kind of show. And they're all obviously repeats. Yeah.

Because it ended in like the early 80s or whatever. But I love the idea that it's, again, it's a completely mundane idealized version of like the 50s and 60s. And then they're just like a sci-fi guy. And then I like how it's just a weird genre switch where they're like, there's actually an alien with special powers in the spinoff. And we're never going to mention any kind of aliens or special powers again in Happy Days but this is this. And also like

I guess he time travelled or he's just very long lived. Yeah, he's long lived. Maybe it's explained. I guess like Happy Days got sillier. Yes, it did. I mean that's like a next level of silly. Famously the saying jump the shark came from Happy Days because one day the Fonz in his leather jacket and his little briefs

jumped over a shark with water skis on or whatever. Because it started like as a real kind of slice of life, 1950s, oh, remember this, remember childhood kind of thing. And then they went, oh, this weird creep who dropped out of high school who lives in the basement, he's now a main character. James, he doesn't live in the basement. He lives in the toilet. Does he? Yeah, that's where his office is.

Or maybe he does live. No, okay. Doesn't he live above them in the attic or something? He lives in the Cunningham's house, I think, yes. But he works. His office is the toilet. Yeah, there we go. Yeah.

Yeah, he was the Jesse from Full House of his day. Yeah. Speaking of, would you say Fuller House is a sequel or a spin-off? I'm still talking about more. Okay, sorry. I just love that these days there would need to be much more lore to that. Yeah. Like I think if there was just like a modern day,

if people were watching Succession and one of the characters suddenly became an alien or was revealed to be an alien, people would be like, okay, is the whole show going to pivot to that? Yeah, what are we doing? Is there just, I don't like, and then they would get their own show and they'd be like, okay, but what? I guess it's a comedy. I guess that's the way that people accept it.

Not the way I watch it. No, I understand that. But there's been shows where like aliens show up, like silly shows where aliens show up, right? Give me one example of a silly show. Simpsons, I don't know, Simpsons. That is a silly show. Is that the Treehouse one?

I don't know. I don't know. Well, let's talk about some alien weird stuff. I'll jump to this one. I've got one more thing because I've just looked it up. I've just got one more thing. Okay. Mork was played by Robin Williams, obviously.

We know that. The great Robin Williams became a comedy powerhouse. Dom DeLuise was also – Dom DeLuise was off of the role but passed and somebody who was also considered was Richard Lewis Richard Lewis is in Curb Your Enthusiasm Oh yeah, okay, yeah I would say that's a really old guy

But he would have been Very young He was in Men in Tights Just imagine Richard Lewis He would have just been black suit smoking a cigarette Can you believe it? Not really Just imagine Richard Lewis. He would have just been black suit smoking a cigarette. Hello, I'm an alien. Can you believe it?

Not really. Let's talk about aliens because the X-Files got two spin-offs and I don't know whether these are good or not, so that's why I'm asking you. One was The Lone Gunman. Yeah, which got like eight episodes, I think. And one was Millennium. Oh, yeah, that's right.

Yeah, what was that? Millennium was, was that a spinoff though? It was. I mean it takes place in the same universe because Millennium got cancelled and then there was an episode of the X-Files called Millennium where everything finished off. Okay. But basically Millennium was a series that over the course of its seasons,

like it kept, the premise kept changing slightly. So initially the premise was that Lance Henriksen's character, who was called Frank Black, I think. Yeah, it is. He could see. Into the minds of criminals. Yeah, he could see into the minds of criminals and serial killers. So he would go in and he sees what the killer sees and he would go to a crime

scene and go, oh, okay, here's how I'm going to track down this killer. But then later, and he worked for a group called the Millennium Group, which was this mysterious group. But then it turned out, in addition to that, the Millennium Group were trying to, I think, trying to bring about the end of the world by the turn of the millennium. And then they started introducing weird, like, more X-Files-style supernatural stuff, like demons and aliens

and things like that. I'm trying to work out because it started in 96. Yes. So I do wonder whether they just started this show because it was Chris Carter. They just went, what else you got? I don't think initially it was a spin-off, but what happened was the series got cancelled

and then there was an episode of the X-Files that took place sort of New Year's Day, New Year's Eve, New Year's Day 1999 to 2000, I think, and Frank Black is in that and they sort of help him do his millennium stuff. That's what he said. He shows up at the start and he's like, I need your help to do the millennium stuff. It says in the first episode Frank Black returns to Behavioural Science

Unit of the FBI and he speaks to Peter Watts, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And two figures bearing an uncanny resemblance to Fox Mulder and Dana Scully can be seen walking down the stairs behind him. The actors in the scene were not them but there was their stand-ins. So I think initially it was supposed to be the same universe but he didn't appear in X-Files and then jump over, which is what you said. I like Millennium.

I haven't seen it. Does it hold up? I don't know. Did you like Lone Gunman? Yeah, kind of. Yeah. They were killed in an explosion, were they? They sure were.

So that was after their series, I assume? No, I think they were killed at the... Ooh, great question. And didn't they predict 9-11 or something? Yeah, it's in the first episode. Yeah. I can't... They were all definitely killed.

Yeah. But I can't remember if... Again, it might have been the Lone Gunman was cancelled, the series, and then they were. For people who don't remember, in The X-Files, there was Mulder and Scully occasionally went to a group called The Lone Gunman who were like, they made like a zine. They were like conspiracy theorists that were like tapped

into real conspiracy stuff and they were. They were on the internet probably. They were on the internet and hackers. They were hackers and so forth. That's right. There was a guy who looked like Garth from Wayne's World. Yes, very much so. I saw him do improv in Melbourne one time.

Is he good? Yeah, he was good. There you go. Actually, I think you remember me telling him that. Yeah, Dean Haglund. Yeah, and he wears the glasses in real life as well, doesn't he? He does wear the glasses in real life. That's fun that he wears glasses in real life and on TV.

What about Angel? That is fun. What about Angel as a backdoor spin-off pilot? You were a big nerd for Buffy. Yeah. Big Buffy nerd. Yeah. Because they went through high school the same years I went through high school.

Yes, even though they were all ten years older than you. That's true. That's true. And now we're the same age. Yeah, the same age. That's Hollywood for you. But that was on a different network, wasn't it? It was initially the same network, I think, but then they switched over.

So they had to, like curtail like the guest appearances of each character on the other series. Did Joss Whedon write both? No, I don't think so. Or was he only involved in both? I don't think. I know he didn't write all of them anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think he generally did not write Angel. Okay. If I had to take a wild swing at that. Yeah. But Angel, would you say, is as good as Buffy? Yeah, I actually would. Did it go for longer than Buffy? No, it was shorter than Buffy.

Wow. Yeah, I know, right? But there were some great episodes of Angel. I couldn't tell you a single thing about it. All right. Except, you know, what was he up to? There was an episode where they went to Italy but all the sets were the same because, like,

they worked for like an evil, there was a season of Angel or a couple of seasons where they worked for like an evil demonic law firm and so they went to the Italian version of that but it was exactly the same sets. And people just had accents. Yeah. That's fun. Yeah.

Did they have any shots of the Colosseum or anything? I don't think so. They must have got some stock footage of the Colosseum. Maybe, yeah. But it's just. Maybe they got some stock footage of a Papa John's pizza in the middle of Italy. That's right. Puss in Boots, that's a good spin-off.

Okay. Is there a new one coming out? There's a new one coming out, yeah, the trailer. I don't think I ever watch Puss in Boots. They've changed up the animation style so it's more. Because the idea for, I feel like animation for a long time, especially in like the Shrek Dreamworks, though not exclusively, there was an emphasis

on making everything look real and move real. But now I think after like Spider-Verse, there's more of like a kinetic kind of feel to it. And it feels more kind of, more like animation than like the cat's fur has to be perfect or whatever. Does that make sense? That was probably both, if I'm honest. Anyway, I like Puss in Boots.

I think it's good. So you had a pussingly good time? I will not say that. Okay, just checking. Here's one, one of my favourites because I was the same age when this show was on probably, Daria. Oh, yeah. Daria is a spin-off of Beavis and Butthead.

Is it? She's a minor character in Beavis and Butthead. She's barely in it. I didn't know that. She's got like just complete disdain for them and for some reason they went, let's make the Daria TV show. Do you think Grimes should come back, James? It is back, isn't it?

Great question. I don't know. I mean all eras are currently happening simultaneously. That's what I'm saying. I guess, yeah. Yeah. And it just, I remember like it was, she was in high school and she was like a weird outcast with glasses and, like,

and just very dry and sardonic. And she has, like, a weird artist friend and it's about, like, you know, relationships and all of those kinds of things. And it felt very real, like, for an animated show, you know what I mean? It wasn't, like, as heightened as, like, The Simpsons or something like that, you know what I mean? And guess what? I think it like The Simpsons or something like that, you know what I mean? And guess what? I think it was way better than Beavis and Buddy.

I agree. Better show. I think they brought it back as like a special one-off kind of thing where she's like, I'm 40 now. 40. Yeah. So there was a film in the 2000s and then there was a special in 2020. Oh.

Yeah, where something, something, something, something. Oh, where something, something, something, something. Oh, where something, something, something, something. Incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it? I don't know. Maybe there wasn't. No, it says there were specials.

No, so maybe there wasn't. All right. Actually, no, so the series includes two films. So there was live action films there. Is it four yet and is it college yet? And then I heard they were going to do something else, but they didn't end up doing it. Anyway, there you go.

Fun. That is fun. And also when they released on DVD they couldn't use any of the music because at the time it used a lot of like grungy or music which then they didn't license. Oh, of course, yeah. They had it on television. But you can still get it because people make their own edits.

Hell, yeah. So there you go. Did you know, actually I'm not up to that yet, Pinky and the Brain, it's all about animation. Animaniac spin-off? Animaniac spin-off, yeah. Got its own show. That came back as well recently.

Fantastic Beasts, I guess. I didn't mind that, the first one. The second one was atrocious. Here's one that you probably love. Boston Legal. I actually did love Boston Legal. I knew you would. The spin-off of The Practice.

Which was very serious, and Boston Legal less so. James Spader. Denny Crane. It had William Shatner. William Shatner. And maybe it had Australia's own, that guy. You know the guy, Curls Get the Girls? Vince Colossal.

Oh, did it really? Yeah, the Practice did maybe, I don't know. Okay, one of them. So he was supposed to have had a degenerative brain disease, didn't he? Yes. But then maybe he didn't. He always claimed he had mad cow disease. But he was pretending?

I don't know, James. You didn't finish it? I don't know if there was a big reveal at the end where he's like, actually, I fooled you all. Yeah. So anyway, because he would pretend to be bumbling and whatever, but he was like a brilliant lawyer and et cetera. Also in the same universe, Boston Public.

Wow. The school show. Really? the same universe, Boston Public. Wow. The school show. Really? Your favourite show. I loved that show. I didn't know it. Okay. Yeah.

Okay, Boston Legal, check it out. Yeah. Do you like the suits? I mean... At the time, no doubt. Yeah, at the time, no doubt. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure.

So I think next week if we're going to do... I think we should do... I think we mentioned... The difference between spin-offs and backdoor pilots is, I think next week if we're going to do, I think we should do, I think we mentioned the difference between spin-offs and backdoor pilots is I think the idea of like you watch a TV show and the episode, like all the main characters take a back seat to something that is, to just a bunch of new guys and you're like, you're interested in this, aren't you?

My mind immediately goes to The Office. There was a Shroot Farm family spin-off episode which they retooled. No, it was an episode they retooled into whatever. Remind me to talk about next week to talk about Gary Seven. Okay. Somebody email in and remind Mason about Gary Seven. From Star Trek, Gary. There was an original series episode.

Well, let's do Star Trek because I've just written Star Trek question mark. Okay. Because which of these are even spin-offs and which are sequels? Oh. You know, because like the Next Generation has. Well, there always used to be a nod because the first episode of Next Generation to Forrest Kelly, who was Dr. McCoy, he was in it. And he was like, oh.

I'm so old. Exactly. Why'd you bring me here? I'm old. Fuck. Put me in an airlock. I remember it was really good. Yeah, it was intense.

It really captured the essence of the original series. So, yeah, so there was always a legacy character that would carry the day. Yeah, I think Patrick Stewart appears in the first episode of Deep Space Nine. He's like, um... I'm here to let you know this is okay. Yeah, that's right. I'm here to let you and the viewers know everything is okay. Yeah, absolutely.

So what's your spin-offs, I guess, you know? Is that considered a spin-off because it's an entirely new crew? Oh, great. It's also a sequel, you know? I think DS9 is a spin-off of The Next Generation. Okay. And Voyager is a spin-off of DS9. But Next Generation isn't a spin-off of the original series.

But the Enterprise. For a completely arbitrary reason that it was just too long. Even though it obviously is in the same universe. Yes, but Enterprise is a prequel to the original series. That's correct, yes. And not a spin-off. And Discovery is a prequel to the original series also? Yes.

But that takes place after. But also a sequel. That's a sequel to Enterprise. Yes. And also, and I guess. I hated Enterprise. I don't know if you watched Enterprise. I wasn't a big fan. Look, I watched a sequel to Enterprise. Yes. And also, and I guess. I hated Enterprise. I don't know if you watched Enterprise. I wasn't a big fan.

Look, I watched a bit of it because it's on and it's 2005 and I'm like, what else am I doing? I didn't even, I didn't like the uniforms. No, I didn't like the weird grey ship interior. And the last episode was a Next Generation episode. It was, yeah. Where they get in a holodeck and they do an episode of The Next Generation. Correct, yes.

For some reason. Yeah, so I guess Picard is, that's a spin-off. That's definitely a spin-off. Because he's turning up and he's going, I'm here. Now, you said you've been watching some of that. I watched the first, yeah, two or three, yeah. What do you think of it? It's all right.

I haven't watched it yet. It's better than the first season. Let me ask you this. Is there an explanation as to why Q looks old now? Yes. Oh, he just felt like it? I'll tell you. Here you go. He shows up and he's young. They've de-aged him and he goes, oh, now? Yes. Oh, he just felt like it? I'll tell you. Here we go.

He shows up and he's young. They've de-aged him and he goes, oh, you're old. Well, now I'm old. Click. Yeah, okay. I kind of figured that would be the case. And Goldberg does a similar thing because she's from some alien race which is infinite.

I don't know. And she's like, oh, you look older. She's like, yes, because humans like it when you look older. I'm like, that's some bullshit right there. Also, she doesn't look that different. If they just hadn't have mentioned it, I think it would have been absolutely fine. Guinan?

Yeah, it's Guinan. Okay, there you go. Anyway, it's like Borg Queen or whatever. Humans actually like it when you look like Eric Banner, so here we go. He was in Star Trek. Oh, yeah, he was the Romulan guy. He was the Romulan guy, yeah.

So also, what's going on with the Borg Queen? Could she download it? Because she's been around. She was in the movie. Star Trek 8. Yeah, yep. And then she shows up again in the series and whatever, and now she's back.

In Discovery? Yeah. Is it a consciousness that- I suspect it is a consciousness. That you just put into a new body? Put into a new body, yeah. Because she just looks different every time. Because I think the original premise of the Borg was they were

a collective consciousness and there was no leader. Yeah. But then they were like, it makes – What if there was a leader? What if there was a leader? I think the writers were like, okay, it would make – Because they're a – Like a bee.

They're like a beehive, so there would be a queen and what if – and that gives a face to the antagonist, I guess, as opposed to – Someone to punch. As opposed to just a billion generic. Yeah. And then you can go, well, if you defeat the queen, you defeat all of them, whereas if whereas it seems like an unending task if there's just a million trillion drones.

That's true. Also, that animated show is a spin-off, I would say. Lower Decks. And that's good. I like that one a lot. Bumblebee's a spin-off. More animated stuff. I agree.

Give us more Kite Man. Give us Lower Decks. There's a Janeway series, isn't there? There's an animated Janeway kids series or whatever. Oh, yeah. Never seen it, never will. Okay. Which reminds me of Mrs. Columbo.

Also had Kate Mulgrew. We've mentioned Mrs. Columbo. But even Mr. Columbo did not like that, did he? No, that's true. Yeah. I was going to say, what would you like to see an animated spinoff of? Maybe we've mentioned this before, but. I want a Rick and Morty style spin-off of Rick and Morty.

In the style of Rick and Morty. Wow, that's great. And is Rick and Morty going to feature heavily in this? Oh, okay. No, Patrick Stewart turns up at the start to let everybody know that it's okay. There's a spin-off of Rick and Morty. Well, that's okay. Oh, man, that's a good question. Because there's so much you can do with animation

because you've got a limitless budget. You can do anything. You absolutely can. It's so easy. Yeah, it's so easy. It's so easy anyone could do with animation because you've got a limitless budget. You can do anything. You absolutely can. It's so easy. Yeah, it's so easy. It's so easy anyone could do it. God, I don't know. What about a Better Call Saul animated series? Yeah, man.

I mean, I like a little animated vignette of things as well. You know what I mean? But I guess the joy, of course, of Harley Quinn and Lower Decks is they are poking fun at. Yes. Is there any value in poking fun at the horrible things that happen on Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul? Yeah, I reckon. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I think so. Yes. Is there any value in poking fun at the horrible things that happen on Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul? Yeah, I reckon. Oh yeah? Definitely, yeah.

I think so. Okay. And you bring back some people and whatever. I like that idea. Does it have to be slightly wacky or can it be 100% serious? It could be 100% serious. But again, those two work because they are. But there is no, I wouldn't say no, but there is no 100%

serious animation, really. Like mainstream stuff. What about Batman Ninja when he goes back in time or to an alien planet or something and becomes a ninja? I want you to listen back to this episode, that sentence in particular. I'll do it right now. Sounds great. But do you know what I mean?

There's not like a straight-up drama. There probably is. I'm probably missing a really obvious one. Certainly in the world of anime there would be. Yeah, that's what I mean? There's not like a straight up drama. There probably is. I'm probably missing a really obvious one. Certainly in the world of anime there would be. Yeah, that's what I'm, yes. And look, I won't even go there, Mason. I would not even. We'd be here all day, wouldn't we?

Don't open that can of worms for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The biggest fan. But yeah, like even like King of the Hill, it's a, for the most part, it's a realistic show, but it's, you know, it's silly and whatever. It's true. And also coming back and also a spin off of Beavis and Butthead maybe? It certainly looks like it is.

Or maybe it's just from that era. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, Bumblebee, is that a spin-off? Not anymore apparently. Oh, is it not? No. It's its own new universe.

All right then. Here's some horror stuff. Okay. Annabelle. That's a spin-off of The Conjuring. The doll. And what about The Nun? The spooky nun. Is that a spin-off of The Conjuring. The doll. And what about The Nun, the spooky nun? Is that a spin-off of The Conjuring?

I think so, maybe. Okay, sure. I don't know. So it's nuns and dolls. Yep. Okay. Nuns and dolls, the musical. And other horror movies worth forgetting.

What about this one, Mason? Okay. Xena. I would say Xena has went above and beyond Hercules and its fandom and its longevity. Oh, yeah, for sure.ena has went above and beyond Hercules and its fandom and its longevity. Oh, yeah, for sure. People don't really talk about Hercules. And that's not just because Kevin Sorbo is constantly dunking on himself

on Twitter for some reason. But I think Xena always was perceived as the better show, right? I don't know if that's true. No? I think there was more discourse about Xena because Xena was – I think Xena was more appreciated by a certain fandom, but Hercules was pretty generic. That's what I mean, yeah.

I mean, I don't know. Also, Hercules was a mythical guy and Xena was the own creation. Well, that's a good point. But you enjoyed the Andromeda something. No. Andromeda. Oh, Andromeda. Was it just called Andromeda something. No. Oh, Andromeda. Was it just called Andromeda? Yeah, I think it might have been, yeah. It was just a Star Trek rip-off.

Yeah, nobody liked to watch that. Nobody? Nobody at all. What about Perfect Strangers got a spin-off in the form of Family Matters? Oh, I thought you were going to say Imperfect Strangers. Yeah. Just two clones of those guys living a monstrous life. Was that because it was the cop, the original Val Johnson?

Yeah, I guess. Was he in Perfect Strangers? Something happened, but it is a spin-off. I don't know why. I didn't really watch either. We've reached the absolute limits of vagueness, I think. Oh, no, there's more here that we know. I put Ocean's 8, but it is a spin-off, but it's okay.

It's a spin-off. Yeah. It's a spin-off. I haven Ocean's 8, but it is a spin-off, but it's okay. It's a spin-off. Yeah. It's a spin-off. I haven't seen this, but there was a recent discussion in the Great Mates group of How I Met Your Father. Oh, right. Apparently it's okay to start with, but it gets better as it goes. Okay.

It's obviously a spin-off of Friends. Next up, Mason. Oh, James. What? No, I get it. It's good. Would you consider Birds of Prey, Emancipation of Harley Quinn? Is that a spin-off or a solo movie or a sequel?

It's a spin-off. Okay. End of discussion. I'll let that one. Okay, thanks. Thanks, man. The Flash TV series and the Flaroverse is all a spin-off of Arrow. It started with a guy getting trapped on an island.

Yes. And now they're punching each other in different dimensions. Who knows? I don't know what they're up to now. Right. But it's blowed out, hasn't it? Absolutely it has, yeah. Legends of Tomorrow.

Is Batgirl in that universe? Yes. Sometimes? Initially I think no, but then they mushed them all together, yeah. Okay, there you go. So that's a big one, isn't it? Now normally we're going to do a big episode on this, but would you consider Snake Eyes a spin-off or a reboot?

It's a reboot, I think. Yeah, because it's not the same continuity. Based on our extensive viewings of the movie, to the extent we've watched Snake Eyes, I think I would believe that it's a reboot. Do you wish there was more, like a Snake Eyes-ology? Snake-ology-ly? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just keep it going, see what he's up to. See the origins of Storm Shadow. Yep. And, I mean, you know, to the extent we see the origin of Storm Shadow in Snake Eyes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, give us more origins, I reckon. I agree.

Just spin off every character from that movie. I will. I will. Thank you very much. Rogue One and Solo are both spin-offs. Correct, yes. And they're movies, aren't they? You go to the cinema, sit down.

What, these days? No, not these days. So Minions. Minions is a good spin-off. Of what? Oh, it's of Despicable Me. I'm not saying any of them are never will. That's a fun one.

Have you seen Despicable Me? Yeah. Have you seen it with your kids? You've seen it separately? I don't know which ones I've seen, but I've seen at least two of the three of them. And I don't know which ones in which order I've seen

them, but they're fun. Have you ever seen Steve Carell dresses Gru and Goan Allen or whatever? No. Hideous. Don't look at it. Let me tell you what does it translate to live action. So you do the bald cap? Yes. Try to get that to look like an actual person. Very upsetting.

They should have done it David Tench Tonight style, Mason. Ellen obviously is a spin-off of Aunty Donna's Big Old House of Fun. It's true. That is true. So the Lego Batman movie is a spin-off of the Lego movie. Oh, yeah, sure. And they've had a few. I don't think the Ninjago. There's a Ninjago one and some other things.

What's a Ninjago? Ninjago is like a – it's basically Lego a Ninjago? Ninjago is basically Lego. What if we owned our own IP and made a big thing that kids will like? Great. And then they did it. And they focused group kids and they were like, what do you like, ninjas? Okay.

What do you like? Motorbikes? Dragons, motorbikes, speed boats, castles, time travel amulets. I don't know. That's great. There's so many series. I never know when anything's set, what's connected. The movie's also a different continuity.

I don't know. But the kids would know. No, I don't think they do. Okay, great. Here's one for you though. Yes. There's been a couple of Doctor Who spin-offs. There was the Sarah Jane Adventures and there was Torchwood.

Yeah. Which was, what's his name? Jack Harkness. Jack Harkness doing his own little X-Files adventures. Which apparently got a lot better, but I'll never know because I'll never watch past the first season. And they cancelled it, didn't they? Yes.

I'm pretty sure, yeah. Well, they didn't cancel it, but I think that's the British TV model is just make a series of six episodes or three episodes once every five years. Except for Doctor Who. Except for Doctor Who, which continues forever, yes. Continues to go forever. Here's one that you'll probably-

Is that going currently, Doctor Who? Yes, although I think they're in between big specials. Because they're recasting and rebooting, and we've talked about it. Russell T. Davis is coming back or something. Yeah. So Naked Gun, the series- Is a spin-off of Police Squad. Police Squad, which was only apparently six episodes.

Feels like a lot more. I've never seen any of that. It's probably the density of jokes in them that makes me think it's more. Yeah, absolutely. So that character started there and then got a series of movies. But Spy Hard is unrelated, is that correct? That's correct, yes. But also stars Leslie Nielsen.

To the best of my knowledge, yes, that is correct, yes. And his character of the president in one of the scary movies, that's a different character. Or maybe a couple of them. Who knows? What's your Stargate knowledge like? Like the Stargates itself, it's infinite. It covers the entire galaxy, James.

So the series is a sequel to the movie sort of. Correct, yes. But it's all recast. Yes. Well, I mean, James Spader was busy doing Boston Legal. Exactly. And then there was a few spin-offs or other things happened, I don't know, but there was Stargate Atlantis was the big one, right?

Yes, correct. Go on. Jason Momoa was in that. That's the only bit of information I had. I thought you had something else, Mason. No, not at all. Wow, very good. That's the extent of everyone in the world's knowledge of Stargate.

Yeah, and what do you do with that? Yeah. Nothing. Stargate, I don't know if you remember, James, Stargate SG-1, every like anniversary episode, like every 100th episode, they did a lot. It went forever. Richard Dan Anderson was in it.

Yeah. Enjoyable. Every like 100th episode, they went into like in the universe, there is a fake, there's a TV series called Wormhole Extreme, which is like somehow covers the events of Stargate in that universe. Like somehow the producers of that show have made a, anyway. But if you've never watched, I guess you'd have to watch

100 episodes of Stargate SG-1 to watch. And the movie? No, you don't have to watch the movie. Okay, fair enough. Yeah. Well, there you go. I remember, like, I'd dip in and out of that as a kid, you know? That show was mostly quite funny.

Yeah, I remember it being good. And then Richard Dean Anderson died, then you came back for a bit. Don't know. Yeah, that's cool. Where were you at on the, did you ever see the Bored Legacy? It was a spin-off. The Jeremy Renner one. No, I didn't.

No, I didn't see that one. Got a couple more. Do you know there's a good Fast and Furious spin-off? And I'm not talking about that animated series. You're talking about Hobbs and Shaw, are you? No, I'm not. I'm talking about Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift, which it's a spin-off, right?

That's not a mainline movie. No, it is a mainline movie. No, but he's in it. Doesn't matter. That's not a mainline movie. It's a spin-off. It may have been intended to be a spin-off, but currently it is not a spin-off because it's Fast and Furious 3.

Yeah, but they're not numbered. But they are numbered. Oh, yeah, they are numbered. Because Five is numbered. Five started numbering them. Five started numbering them again. So maybe originally it would have been a spin-off, but now it is different. I don't think it was ever marketed as a spinoff.

But yeah, you're right. I'll concede that, but I'm not happy about it. And I guess the one to end on would be Machete. Yeah, right. So that is, well, he's a character who's showed up in a number of things, including Spy Kids. That's correct. And then got his own movies.

But no, what was the thing he was in before Spy Kids? Oh, he was in, not Death Proof, the other one. The other one. Planet Terror. Was he? I can't remember. I don't think he was in that. Okay, fine then.

Then you should do a goose on it. Oh, was he like in a fake trailer for? He was in a fake trailer. He was in the Grindhouse. Yeah. He was in Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino's Grindhouse double feature, which I don't think we ever got as a double feature. I think we got it maybe as individual movies.

Yeah, we've talked about it before. We got them individually. So, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, and he was in one of the fake ads as Machete. Yeah, he was in a fake trailer the same published for Grindhouse. Yeah, there you go. Can you look up what the other fake trailers were? I remember them being quite memorable, but I don't remember them at all.

Fine. Thanks, man. Oh, here we go. Screen rant coming to the rescue. Every fake trailer in Grindhouse. Here we go. Was Hobo with a shotgun one? Oh, that's a good question.

Potentially. Well, there was definitely one that sounds a lot like that. This article is exhausting. Did we do one of these this week for? We got this covered covered? Yeah. Yeah, if you go to bigsandwich.co, we did something, something. Just the thought of it has drained all your energy away.

This article is just like, I want a list, and it's like. James, that is the sacrifice I make every week or every month or whatever it is. Wikipedia is coming to the rescue. So there was Machete. There was Werewolf Women of the SS. There's Don't, which was anwolf Women of the SS. Okay. There's Don't, which was an Edgar Wright contribution.

Yeah, okay. It's a 1970s Hammer style horror film trailer. Jason Isaacs was in it. There was Thanksgiving. So it was in the style of like Halloween, Silent Light, Deadly Night. And there was Hobo with a Shotgun. There we go. I think that became a full movie.

It did. It became a full movie as well in 2011, which by all accounts was mixed to positive. There it is. Wikipedia. So there you go. I think that became a full movie. It did. It became a full movie as well in 2011, which by all accounts was mixed to positive. There it is. Wikipedia. So there you go. We've somehow stumbled across some spin-offs towards the very end, Mason. That's right. Are there any other spin-offs that you think are of note that we could mention?

No. But I want to do Backdoor Pilots at some point. We'll do it next week. All right, great. We're going to do a worse spin-off next week so I can talk about Aftermash, and that's the only thing I want to talk about. Did that include Radar? No. Radar left before

the end of MASH as well. But then he died. No. Not the actor. Radar did get a spin-off. It was called Walter. There we go. That's what I'm thinking of. Was that a cop or something? Was that it? Yeah. I thought he died. I don't think it aired. Maybe it's his parallel universe. Yeah, maybe it's your parallel universe. I feel confident in saying that

didn't somebody get a radio message that Radar died on the way back to America or something? No, there was's your parallel universe. I feel confident in saying that didn't somebody get a radio message that Radar died on the way back to America or something? No, there was a number of them. It happened to Colonel Blake. There were a few people who died in that. Yes. Alright, let's do the next segment of the show. Do you think they should do a reboot, James,

where all those characters you thought died actually ended up in some sort of afterlife? Or M.A.S.H. where now they're fighting zombies and monsters and ghosts and stuff. Like R.I.P.D. but for the characters in M.A.S.H. All those people are dead. Loretta Swit recently died. I think Klinger's still alive.

Alan Alda's still alive but he's 110 years old. Yes, we get Alan Alda as the head of the team. He's doing his podcast, isn't he? He's busy with two podcasts, yeah. We'll talk more about M.A.S.H. next week. Okay, we get Alan Alda as the head of the team. He's doing his podcast, isn't he? He's busy with two podcasts, yeah. We'll talk more about MASH next week. When our Morbius bonanza, when Monthbius continues. I love when

Monthbius rolls around, don't you? It's great every year, isn't it? I mean, for a while it's been slim pickings, honestly. Yeah, yeah. Feels good to hit the ground running on Monthbius again. Are you going to do a quick pause? Yeah, I'll put in the theme song and then I'll do a quick pause and we'll check if this recorded any of this. All right, here we go.

I'm doing the theme. West world. Mason, what are you reading? A bunch of stuff. Wow. Give me one thing. Okay, I'll give you one thing, but I'm then probably going to give you more things.

Okay. So, oh, Hbomba Guy has a new video, but I'm then probably going to give you more things. Okay. So, oh, Hbomba Guy has a new video out. I don't know if you've seen that one. What's that on? It's on YouTube. Yes. No, I know what's it about. It's a three-hour video, and it's about how the video game Deus Ex Human Revolution is okay.

I did see that. It's got like two million views, so they don't need any promotion from us. Yeah. But if you've seen it, if you wanted to see it, you see it. But if you're like, boy, it's three hours about a video game that's okay, I think it's fascinating because it's about how like a AAA video game company, Square Enix, in making, you know, speaking of spin-offs, a sort of a sequel that is actually a prequel to one of the most beloved games

of all time. Yes. And sort of there's a lot of like interview footage and like kind of game developer conference kind of lectures and things like that and clips in there about how a huge video game company making a kind of a legacy title with a lot of money involved and all this sort of stuff, like all the strange mistakes they can make to make a game that you pay a lot of money for and go, sort of stuff, like all the strange mistakes they can make to make a game

that you pay a lot of money for and go, oh, this was all right. Yeah, okay, yeah, this is whatever. Just kind of like the mistakes they made in comparison to the original. So which version is that they're talking about? So there was the original Deus Ex. From the 90s, late 90s? Yes, and then there was a game called Invisible War, which was the sequel to that. And then

there was Deus Ex Human Revolution, which came out in the sort of mid-2000s. That one I had. And then there was Deus Ex Mankind Divided, which was the sequel to that, which I think was a slight improvement. And which one are they talking about? Human Revolution. Which is the first reboot. The mid-2000s one.

Yes, yes, yes. And I have played that. Yeah. I remember because I think we've talked about this, where I'd kitted out my person in a certain way and then I got to a boss and I'm like, I've chosen all the wrong things. Yes, that's, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does that come up?

I mean, there... That my specific experience? Yes, well, kind of. So, yeah, but it's... There's a lot of that stuff and how, like, you know, the systems that worked so well in the original, like, that made it so immersive was sort of really truncated and kind of like, you know, it's made to seem less of an immersive experience

and more of like, oh, I'm definitely playing a video game here and I'm, you know, I'm saving up my points so I can get and use exactly, make exactly the right upgrades and stuff like that. Okay. It's interesting. People should check it. Maybe they want to check it out in chunks. Maybe they will.

Other things, speaking of YouTube though, I came across, I think this was recommended on Twitter, I came across a YouTube channel called Ordinary Things. I don't know if you've ever seen Ordinary Things, but I watched it. Oh, I know this. I am subscribed to this. Yeah, he makes some videos about ordinary things,

but like often in the tech world. I watch one about Facebook meta and VR and how that is working or not working. There's a video about, you know, e-scooters, those things you keep seeing around in various. Everywhere at the moment. Mostly in rivers, I think. Mostly in rivers, yeah.

I'm astounded, like in Melbourne. That there's not more in rivers. I think a couple of years ago they had to dredge up like hundreds of bikes, of like rental bikes from the Yarra River. Do you think people have stopped throwing them in the river? I think they've run out of bikes to stop throwing them in the river. I was in the city last night and there was a lot of e-scooters. Yeah, scooters are going around.

Going around, going all the time. But also like there's a video about just evil stuff that happened in 2021. Yes, that's fun. From NFT apes to meta to Elon Musk being on SNL. Apparently NFTs are very much on the way out, at the moment at least, because who knows how they seem. Seems like a drop in. Because there's been like the Google results and prices have dropped

and like people aren't switching for them and all those kinds of things. So that's fun. Yeah. And final recommendation, although I've been reading some other stuff, but final recommendation, it's a podcast that I've been on, but I've been walking to and from work the last couple of weeks. Like this? Yeah, like that, like a big old normally walking man.

Let me go. Yeah, it's great. And I'm like, I'll go through the back catalogue of this and I enjoy it a lot. It's a mission, Zach's Leguizamarama. Ah, yes, yes, yes. Which is Zach from Aunty Donna. And that's completed, isn't it?

No, it's ongoing forever. How are they keeping it going? There's so many, because it's a podcast where they ostensibly talk about the complete filmography of John Leguizamo and get in guests and so on and so forth. But it's a lot of very good-natured rambling that includes serious film criticism and rude stuff and all sorts of stuff.

But it's just a fun, good time. And it's good. And I was on an episode where we talked about Spawn. Oh, yeah, no, I didn't know that. Have I listened to that? There's a big, long backlog and Leguizamo keeps making stuff, so I think they'll never be finished. Oh, that's true.

They do it weekly? Yes. Wow. Yeah. And they've got a live show at the moment as well, or Zach does. Auntie Donna is, yes, but by the time this comes out, it'll be done. Did you say it? I'm seeing it tonight.

God damn it. I don't think I'll get tickets. They'll do it again, right? Probably. Good. Then I'll go and see it. Well, I was going to, because I said I'm seeing a show. I was going to say an Auntie Donna show, but then when I went to the website,

I think I got literally the last ticket. Give me that ticket. A little warning came up. It was like single tickets only. You can't buy any tickets together. Oh, wow. So it's for losers only. That's fine. That's you to a T. I know. What have you been watching or reading?

I've been reading because we're going to talk about it in the book club next week. Morbius the Living Vampire, the comic, where it's like, what if Morbius had his own little adventure? He finds his own little pocket of the world to protect and whatever. Yeah, where is it? New York? Yeah, it's in New York. I can't remember where in New York. They're like, nobody

comes here, not even the big superheroes. And he's like, well, now I'm here. Now I'm here. I'm a Dracula. Sorry, Morbius, perhaps you weren't listening. Nobody comes here. Nobody lives here. I'm just passing through. It's a completely empty part of the city. No buildings either. It's just a field. Just an empty field.

Yeah, what are you doing here, Morbius? This is my city. This is my city. I'm protected. Okay, Morbius. So that's what I've been reading. Making my way. That's like nine issues.

Well, I'll probably get to that and I'll also reread Irredeemable, I think. Very good. Good. Should we do the next segment of the show now? Maybe. Have I been reading anything else? I don't know. Maybe.

Maybe I have. What do you think about that? I think that's fine That's pretty good Let's do letters though Yay Letters The classic one was Letters, oh letters

We love you Some letters They're only a day away I know they're here right now We're going to do letters Wow Is now the time to do letters? Now We're going to do letters. Wow. Is now the time to do letters?

Now is the time to do letters, I think. If you do want to reach us, throw a hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. You're doing a big head swish there. What do you think? I'm loving the long hair, James. Thank you. It's too long.

That's centre part. Yeah. Some real Aaron's party vibes. Thank you. Who's Aaron's party? Aaron Carter. Oh, yeah. Isn't he still around or something?

Maybe. I don't know. And he went broke? I don't know. Probably. Wow. Probably went broke or mad or whatever. That's fun.. Thank you. Who's Aaron's party? Aaron Carter. Oh, yeah. Isn't he still around or something? Maybe, I don't know. And he went broke? I don't know. Probably. Wow. Probably went broke or mad or whatever. That's fun. Mason, listen, this is the last segment of the show.

If people don't want to reach the show, they just simply hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. For example, could you think of a Gmail that people might send out? Well, I was going to say, in nonspecific terms, James, a lot of people contacted us regarding doors versus windows, which are there more in the world. Apparently the bigger internet drama is doors or wheels. Yes, yes, I know that.

We don't care. We weren't emailed in about doors or wheels. It was doors or windows. And a lot of people said, what about skyscrapers? And I say, there aren't that many skyscrapers. I agree with that. But I also think you need to- What about underground bunkers?

Yes, well, that's also true. But I also think, because first of all, we didn't get any hard numbers. That's true. There was a lot of like, what about a skyscraper? And then the picture of a skyscraper. It's like, you know, I know what a skyscraper looks like. I understand. But yes, cities of the world.

But I think you need to take, I still think it's windows based on transport alone. You know what I mean? That's what transport alone. You know what I mean? That's what I think. You know what I mean? If a skyscraper has 1,000 windows or whatever, do you know what I mean? But then maybe it's got 1,000 doors. Maybe it does.

It wouldn't have 1,000 doors. Maybe it has 10,000 doors. Yeah, but I think... There's no way of knowing. There's more houses than skyscrapers, presumably. That's true. I imagine. But again, though, we didn't get any hard numbers.

We didn't get any hard numbers. We didn't get any actual help this week, Mason. That's so true, James. But anyway, I do think it's Windows. But do you have any other emails? I've got so many other emails. Because I've got some tweets as well. I mean, we don't normally do just an email that's a shout-out,

but I thought this one was just a nice email. Normally we bin these, don't we? We block them. And then we get the person swatted. We do the bin and a block. We do a bin and a block. Bin and a block and a swat.. Bin and a block and a swat. The bin and a block and a swat.

That's right. This is from Hannah. Hannah says, My boyfriend, Ollie, is a huge mega fan of yours and listens to your podcast whilst at work. Religiously, all the way from rainy England, he works long shifts, and the only thing he listens to is you guys.

I would love to surprise him with a shout-out from you guys on your next podcast, if possible, as I know this would mean a lot to him. His name is Ollie? She said it. This is mean a lot to him. His name is Ollie. She said it. This is the delightful part. Yeah. His name is Ollie Wilson, brackets, not sure if you can mention surnames.

You can. Again, if you want to be binned and swatted. That's fine with us. We'll absolutely do that. Thanks in advance. You guys are awesome. Kind regards, Hannah, brackets, Ollie's girlfriend. Very good.

Yeah. Listen, Ollie, you're out there in the world. You're doing a shift. How many shifts are you doing? And why are you listening to this twice? Do you know what I mean? Great, great point. Because he's constantly listening.

We don't have, you know. Probably bonus material. We're not making like 40 hours of content a week. It's true. Sure, there's extra stuff at bigsandwich.co. Don't get me wrong. That's right. But then again, there's also YouTube stuff.

But even then, that wouldn't cover your 40 hours a week. Maybe he's listening to other podcasts that he thinks are our podcast also. Oh, okay. Like maybe like his podcast device of choice just goes to another thing. Yes, yes, yes. And it's close enough. Okay, that's fine with me too. Anyways, happy birthday.

Hope you have a wonderful time. This is not a birthday. No, he said happy birthday. Isn't it? No, absolutely not. Happy birthday, Ollie. Well, I mean, it's got to be your birthday sometime. You know what they say?

It's always Ollie's birthday sometime. So this is just a shout out. There's no specific event or occasion that I retract my happy birthday. I just thought it was nice. What do you reckon about that? No, I think that's very nice. So yeah, good luck out there, everybody, but specifically Ollie and Hannah. Wonderful.

Let's not get a tweet. Okay, give us a tweet. From Ash who says, happy birthday. Lay it on me, brother. He says, happy birthday, Ollie. Oh, what's his birthday? It's his birthday. That's not true.

No, that's what it says. That's a fake tweet. You're going to have to make, I'm going to check for it later, so you're going to have to make up an account and tweet this. No, no, they've blocked you. They've blocked you. They've blocked me specifically. That's interesting.

Even though I just did this nice shout out. That's wild. No, no, no. Ash said it was Ollie's birthday. I think they should both go to hell. Ash said it was Ollie's birthday. Oh. Ash must be this nice shout-out. That's wild. No, no, no. Ash said it was Ollie's birthday. I think they should both go to hell. Ash said it was Ollie's birthday. Oh. Ash must be a friend of Ollie's.

Oh, maybe. Yeah, anyway, he says, how do you feel about- Well, he's no friend of mine. Wow. He's blocked me. How do you feel about Nicolas Cage wanting to play Eggman, I guess Egghead, in the Batman movie? Did you see this quote?

I did see that, yeah. This is what Cage said. Oh, here's something. I've been thinking about this because, you know, we have the new Robert Pattinson as Batman, which I'm excited to see. I haven't seen it yet, but I think he would be terrific. The villain that Vincent Price played in the 60s show,

Egghead. I think I would go at Egghead. I think I could make him absolutely terrifying and I have a concept for Egghead. I've taped a bunch of eggs to my head. Let them know, Warner Brothers, I'm down for Egghead. I don't think it'll happen, but I'd like to see Nicolas Cage's

interpretation of Egghead. Could you put him in Harley Quinn as Egghead? Do you think he's like, do you think he's like, and the funny thing about this is I'll shave my head and everybody will get to see it. Imagine if I was a balding or bald man and people would go, ha-ha, good stuff, Nicolas Cage. That would be unusual.

Let me ask you this. How do you think Nicolas Cage watches a movie? What do you mean, like with a movie? What do you mean? Like with a crew? Is there like 40 of his people? Yeah, or like can he go to the cinema? Oh, wow. Or do you think he hasn't seen it because he's waiting for like an Oscar screen or something? Yeah, maybe.

Yeah, that might be it. I'd imagine he's the kind of guy where, yeah, he could just request it. Oh, no, we'd send it to him. Yeah, I guess that's probably true. Whatever. That'd be theatre with his crew. Exactly. Home theatre with the crew.

Exactly. How big do you think that home theatre is? Pretty big. Yeah, yeah. And that's probably true. Whatever. That'd be theatre with his crew. Exactly. Home theatre with the crew. Exactly. How big do you think that home theatre is? Pretty big. Yeah, yeah. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Yeah. Theatres don't have any windows.

They've got a lot of doors. You know what I reckon he does? I reckon he has his own, on one of the grounds of one of his houses, he has a drive-in movie theatre and every time he wants a screener, he orders a screener and also like a new car. And they deliver and he goes to the theatre in his new car. Yeah, wow. And they play the movie for him.

Terrific. Well, I would love that to be true. Anyways, yeah, put him in. If Matt Reeves can think of a reason to do it, why not? Yeah. What else, Mason? This is from Sam. Hello, Sam.

Sam says, I'm from Sydney and a few weeks time, I'm going down to Melbourne for the first time to visit my family and to see some shows for the Melbourne Comedy Festival. I think maybe next week I'll do some Comedy Festival recommendations because it's coming up in a couple of weeks. Nah, we're pretty packed with month beers. You sure you can squeeze that in? And Snake Eyes. We've got to do month beers and Snake Eyes.

Do we push Snake Eyes into another month because it's in honour of month beers? Yeah, we could push Snake Eyes to snake beers month, which is next month. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Snape rule? Yeah, snake rule. Oh, not bad. Sam says, for the first 11 years of my life,

I thought that the capital of Australia was Sydney. Until a few years ago, I was told it's actually Melbourne. Now, we both know it's actually Canberra, but let's be honest, when you think of Australia, do you think of Canberra? Nobody thinks of it. You're absolutely right. There was supposed to be some kind of like, what do we do in this situation?

We'll find a middle ground, but it's not really a middle ground at all. Anyway, I wanted to get your opinion on which amazing city should count as the capital. Here's the thing. I think it should be Adelaide. You know why? Because they don't want it. No, so you make them do it.

Yeah, and it's nice over there. As much fun as we make of Adelaide. I've never been be Adelaide. You know why? Because they don't want it. No, so you make them do it. Yeah, and it's nice over there. As much fun as we make of Adelaide. I've never been, to be honest. It's nice. I've never been because it's so boring. They have a nice Thai restaurant. They have a nice Thai restaurant, do they? Yeah, they do.

Oh, that's really exciting. Yeah, that's right. Okay, give it to Adelaide. Do you want to give it to Darwin or something? No, Darwin sucks. Have you been to Darwin? No. It's all right.

It's all right. Someone's been to Darwin here, clearly. I saw The Dark Knight Rises in Darwin. Oh. Yeah. What do you think of Darwin? No. It's all right. It's all right. Someone's been to Darwin here, clearly. I saw The Dark Knight Rises in Darwin. Oh. Yeah. What do you think of that? Great. I saw The Amazing Spider-Man 1 in Darwin.

Did they rebrand the entire city as Darkwyn? Yes, they renamed it Darkwyn. For that run? Yeah. I mean, should New York be the capital of America? Yeah. Do you reckon? Yeah.

It's the most famous city, I guess. You can get a slice of pizza there any time you want. And they've got that Thai restaurant. Anywhere you've got a Thai restaurant. What else? What else we got? What do you mean, what else do I got? I mean, like, in terms of, like, capital cities, like London, England,

that makes sense. You're not going to get into Sussex or some shit. Yeah, right. Or whatever Sussex is. Whatever that is. I've watched so many videos about people. People would know Jay Foreman on YouTube. He does funny.

Mapman. Okay, yeah, yeah. Funny videos about London and England and so forth and like the structure of counties and all this sort of stuff. Yeah. I have no idea how England works. It's madness over there. Absolutely.

Weird postcodes. Yuck. I've got here top 10 travel picks that aren't capital cities. Oh. Here we go. Adelaide? New York. Nice. Sydney we go. Adelaide. New York. Nice.

Sydney. Chicago. Rio de Janeiro. Istanbul in Turkey. Yeah. Geneva, Switzerland. Johannesburg, South Africa. Timbuktu.

Las Vegas. Casablanca. There are too many just American cities that have been named here. Out of the 10, like four of them are in the US. Great. It's outrageous. Anyway, Sam goes on to say, also if you could quickly give your opinion on the Sandman Netflix series

that's meant to come out at some point in this year. He's a big fan of the books. Well, I've just got the, still got the Millennium TV series Wikipedia opened here, so I can give you opinions on that. Okay, terrific. Just get mixed. Chris Carter was, like it debuted okay, but it never kind of found its footing. Yeah, it never did.

And it only went like three seasons, I think. Yeah. So Slant Magazine had positive reviews of both season one and three that I mentioned. But not two. They skipped two. That's interesting. Yeah.

I think that was the weird supernatural season. Okay. It says we're racing, to quote season one, we are racing towards an apocalypse of our own creation. My goodness. This is who we are. Mike Drucker called the second season The X-Files and The Violent Paranoia of Seven.

Oh, The Druckster. There you go. So that seems very good. What I would say, I'm looking forward to Sandman Netflix. I think it's going to be good. Did you know also Millennium had a 2015 comic book run? I did not know that. Yeah, and I think.

Was it through Topps Comics? It was through Topps. No, it was through IDW. No, because The X-Files. Fox Mulder's in it. My goodness. Look, it's Old Lance Hendrickson and Fox Mulder hanging out together. Oh, that's a nice cover, actually.

I like that a lot. Yeah. I'd read that if I knew anything about the show Millennium. He never even looked that old in. I guess it's set in the present. It's set in the present day. Wow. Absolute Drongo.

That's great. Now, that's a spin-off. Is it? Absolute Drongo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Mason's own podcast. That's right. Absolute Drongo. Is it an absolute drongo? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Mason's own podcast, Absolute Drongo. Is that what it was going to be called last time? It was definitely insulting to me somehow in the last one as well.

I'll take them all. I love them quite frankly. Why would you pick something that insulting? I mean, I guess because you're too lazy to name it. No, but he has to be because I'm also massively egotistical and the podcast will be called Nick Mason, Absolute Drongo. Great. Anyway, Sandman.

I haven't really seen anything about it. Yeah. So I don't really know, to be honest. But it will be that Netflix model of here's the trailer, it's coming out next week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, I am looking forward to it. And I have read some of Sandman.

I quite liked it. Yeah. So there you go. Also, can I be the official fall down the stairs and need nine stitches to the head guy of the podcast? Yes, you can. Absolutely. Eight and ten have been taken, but nine is still available.

You hit that sweet spot of that stair that you hit on the way down. That's perfect, actually. Some C-rate. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Just a quick one. The Avengers quadrilogy for Caravan of Garbage? I think we will probably when the next Avengers thing is. Definitely, yeah.

Whatever, two, three, four years. I don't know. Whenever that is. If we're alive, I don't know. Dunno. Dunno, Mason. But we will get there. That's a bit of sizzle though, isn't it? If we're alive. I think so. If we're alive. In the ideal world. Any other things,

Mason? Let's find out. Wow. Alright. Okay, how about this? This is from Toby. This is entirely visual, so this is not going to play at all, but I'm going to show you and you're going to be delighted. This is from Toby who says, I found Mason on the wrong side of the planet,

spotted this imposter while stuck in traffic and listening to the podcast backlog. Here we go. What I'd share with you for your enjoyment. It's from a company called Zoom, the full fiber network that gives you more. And you know a lot of the time, James, you would know. Sometimes we'll get an email or a tweet from – there'll be a man with a beard

and they'll be like, Mesa, that's you. And sometimes there'll be a photo of a man with no distinguishing features and they'll be like, James, that's you. Or like a goat. Yeah. Just a goat. But look at this. It's pretty close.

That's very close. But also, that's probably better looking than you. Yeah, it's definitely better looking than me. And the beard's better, the hair's better, but clearly I think they've got a base model of me or the actor who was in the ads for Zazumam. I mean, what's it called? Zazumam.

Hey, spell it. Two Zs, two Os, two Ms. I hate that. Zazumam. And if they don't pronounce it, Zazumam. Where's it from? England. I hate that. Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z- stuff here. Wow. It's like a generic logo. That's me, but they've Yassified me, James. They've Yassified me 100%. You should maybe Yassify yourself, Mason. Yeah, yeah.

There's no mascot. I can't find this. I don't know what this is. Well, look, whatever it is, I love it. Wild. If we could have more information on that from somebody, that would be great. Is he a real guy? Is he like a cartoon who comes on and goes, hello?

Is he like the IINet guy? Energy Fiber, whatever. You know that guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's always like, oh, I'm wearing a jetpack and in the internet. You should get the internet. You know, that guy? Yeah, he's always telling me to get the internet. He doesn't even know that I have the internet.

You've already got the internet. That's how you've looked up these things. What a fucking idiot. And got no results. Yeah, anyway, I hope his jetpack kills him. Mason, are there any others? No, that's all the emails. Yeah. That's not true. There's a bunch more emails. But you put me on the spot and I'd have to find another email. Do you want to find one more email?

I'm happy to wait. Do you have another tweet? No. Oh. I mean, I'm happy to find another tweet. Okay, right. Here's one from Nathaniel. He says, I'm loving y'all's break into TikTok.

My partner is already annoyed with hashtag weeklybuttapods TikToks. I send her each every day. That's right. Thank you to the Collings and Sarabi who have put that TikTok together. We are on TikTok. We are somehow on TikTok. Are we going viral? Do we have millions of views?

We're currently the biggest TikTok account for this podcast, I believe. That's probably not true. That's almost certainly not true. I bet there's somebody else who's doing clips. There's that guy. There's a guy and he does the clips and he does the mimes kind of situation. That is true, actually. It's a good point.

Great point. Yeah. I found a tweet so quickly. Okay. And yet Mason, he drags his little feet. I'm dragging my little feet. Yeah. Because I'm building.

Well, you know what he's doing. He's opening up an app and he's trying to yassify himself in a filter. That's right, to see how I look. He's trying out new looks. Yeah. No, trying out new looks. Yeah. No, that's every email. It's unfair because a cartoon doesn't have any flaws like you would. Do you know what I mean?

Like I would if I were to be a kind of person who has flaws. Like facial flaws. Yeah, but I don't know. But the glasses are very similar as well. Yeah. Like the whole look. But they've got a tint to them. That's true.

Which I could do if I was a tinted glasses guy. I don't think you'd want to look through tinted glasses all day. No, it'd be very annoying. It'd be very annoying, I think. I'm a sunglasses all the time guy, no matter what happens. Yeah. Like, I think I've also adjusted myself where I literally. You can't be outside without sunglasses.

I can't be outside without sunglasses. Yeah, yeah. I'm blind. Yeah. But also, it's good. It protects your eyes, right? Protects your eyes. That's why we do it.

That's why I do it. Yeah. Mason, that's the show. That is the whole show, folks. And that's why we do it. Yes. For I do it. Yeah. Mason, that's the show. That is the whole show, folks. And that's why we do it. Yes. For the TikTok account so we can build a brand. Folks, that's the whole show assuming it's recorded.

But if it hasn't, we've got a lower quality version on here. I agree. Including some bits that will not be on the actual podcast because they're too rude. But we'll auction them off. That's right. Too rude and mean. It's the perfect time to get into NFTs where nobody's buying them.

That's right. Oh, my God. Let's do it right at the tail end. Agreed. Let's do it. Folks, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast.

Thank you for leaving a review on whatever podcast platform that you choose. Five-star review would be great. I agree. If, in fact, the review system goes to five. If it goes to more than five, give us more than five. Yeah, give us more than five. We'd appreciate it.

James, you got any there? Got a couple there. This one's from Kevin Feige. And that's a ten-star review, right? That's a ten-star review. It says, Big Maso and the James Gang. It says, five stars. One of them is really funny.

Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. And this one, because it was directed to me. The next one is from Sully from Cincy, who says, big nice. These two have great chemistry, I just can't explain. It's like a hacking scene in an old movie. The guy just stands typing

and just like that, we're in. Nice. Any reviews help. Obviously, for people who don't know, when we record this, we're both typing on the same keyboard. You have to be. Constantly. Because, you know, we're both typing on the same keyboard. You have to be. Constantly. Yeah, and because, you know, like, we're now swamped with celebrity podcasts.

We're now swamped where platforms are pushing their own in-house podcasts. Yeah. And we just want to survive. We don't want to win. Just let us keep doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just let us keep doing it. Just let us keep.

We want to. Look, the industry's going to collapse. We just want to be there at the end. We don't want to be there. We don't want to be there. We don't want to be forced out before the end. We want to be the ones to turn the lights off. Yes, that's right. We ruined this.

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at Nick May. So I'm not going to spell it out. People know. And it will be in the show notes. That's right. So I'm not going to do that anymore. And also you play along. You do this.

I do this? You probably didn't spell it out. Do I really? You do. It's true. I didn't even know that. Unless I'm taking the to do that anymore. And also, you play along. You do this. I do this? You pop your head and spell it out, yeah. Do I really? You do, it's true. I didn't even know that. Unless I'm taking the joy away from you. Oh, now I'm not going to do it again. You made me self-conscious.

I'm going to do it now. It's Nick Maiso, N-I-C-K-L-A-S-E. You did it. It feels weird when I do it now. It feels weird when I do it. I love it. You can follow James at MrSundayMovies everywhere. If you want to support the show, you can go to patreon.com

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That's right. But if you're a big spender, your old Uncle Penny bags over there. Wow. If you're a real Richie Rich, if you're a real Tony Stark, if you're a real- Kim Kardashian. If you're Kim Kardashian himself. Did I say Kim Kardashian?

I don't know what you said, actually. Either one of us is deaf or one of us can't speak or it's both. I don't know. It's definitely both, but I have my hearing tested quite regularly. And? How often do they test your hearing? Well, I mean, it used to be every five years, but I- It's just they come in at the break and they're like,

Mason, are you like, yeah? And I'm like, yeah, you're good to go. Mason smells. And I'm like, who said I smell? But also it's possible that I chew now. Yeah, absolutely. Who's another famous rich person? Elongated Muskrat.

Yeah, he's very famous and rich. If you're one of those guys, you're one of those big spenders. I think it's normal. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you could either sign up for $1,000 a month on Patreon if you want to do that. Yeah. Or you could also go.

I would probably stop you. I'd find out and I'd put a stop to that. I reckon what you would do is you would. I mean, I wouldn't notice it first. Wow, somebody's doing well. No, I just mean like I don't look at the physical. That's true. We don't check the thing.

I reckon what you would do is you would probably Google their name and see how rich they are. Yes. And then I'd ask for more money. If their profile photo was them in a Ferrari, I reckon you'd let it go through. Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. And what else have we done?

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yeah no I think month B.S. is better month B.S. is way better yeah my instinct was correct month B. month? oh month B. month. More be month? Yeah. No, I think month be us is better. Month be us is way better. Yeah, yeah. My instinct was correct. Month be month? Oh, month be month. Month be ons?

No. Month be us is better. My mobile plan's month be month. Is it? No, I don't know what it is. Wow. All right. Thanks, everybody.

Grab that jam, you guys. We will see you next week. Goodbye. And we're doing Gen Hex this week for Caravan of Garbage. Oh, yeah. Sucks. It's a bad movie isn't it really terrible yeah i mean you know now we're gonna hit stop on two different things wow all right

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