The Weekly Planet - 428 MORBIUS. Morbius

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.It's finally Morbius time. After years of speculation, delays and ant...icipation the Jared Leto lead Sony/MCU crossover is here and it's really terrible. Big thumbs down. My god. Thanks for listening!00:00 The Start05:02 The Oscars19:03 Bruce Willis Retires23:06 Ezra Miller Arrested28:39 Disney Re-Edits Marvel Shows32:27 IT Prequel Series35:08 The Crow Returns36:53 Mission Impossible Drama41:55 Kenobi Series Delays (But Don't Dismays)42:27 Morbius Review (spoilers 51:55 to 01:21:50)01:04:36 Morbius Post Credits01:21:50 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:30:50 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:10 where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. And with me, as always, is my co-host, Nick Mason. Is that right? Am I saying that right? You are saying it absolutely right, James. You have nailed it. It's good to... Had to happen eventually.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Thank you. Thanks for having me. Hello, James, and hello, everyone out there in Tinseltown, a city You've nailed it. It's good to... Had to happen eventually. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Hello, James. And hello, everyone out there in Tinseltown, a city where anything can happen. Turns out. And frequently does.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Am I right? Do you like this new guy? No. Fake Hollywood guy? Yeah, I mean, you know, there's definitely a market for that kind of guy. But nobody's invested in them. Do you know what I mean? That's true.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Nobody's like, what's fake Hollywood guy up to? Oh, he's doing a guest spot on Entertainment Tonight, is he? Oh, interesting. He's at the premiere of something I don't care about. That's interesting. Hey, I'm here at the premiere of something no one cares about. It's great to be here, I think. And let me tell you, some of the stars have bothered to show up
Starting point is 00:02:00 because it's a Tuesday. If I had the capability to feel any kind of emotion, it'd probably be excitement. Is that an emotion? I don't know. All I feel is the gnawing need to be famous myself. What for? This.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Anyway, good luck to that guy. You know who you are. There's a million of you. I prefer this. It's pretty good, right? Just weird, aggressive. Yeah. You know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Like there's personality, but like what is it and why? No one knows. There's a lot of backstory, but like it's not that interesting. I thought you were going to say there's a lot of backstabbing, but it's not that interesting. Yeah, well, there's that too. Anyways, here at the Weekly Planet, of course, we've dedicated this month and the next to Monthbius.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Monthbius continues, yeah. And if you do want to skip to that, there are time codes below because, of course, Rob Collings, who does the edit, was that in. And some people might be, they're excited. I can't wait to get there. That's right. So you can do that.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And people might be wondering, are we finished with Monthbius after we do a big Morbius episode? No. No. Monthbius continues. Can you imagine being finished with Monthbius? I can't imagine a life without Monthbius, really. But, you know, that being said, I'm going to have to step out of the month beers bubble just briefly because next week, if you're listening to this right now.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I am. On Sunday the 10th of April at 8.45 p.m. in Melbourne, I will be appearing live with our pals over at Do Go On. They're doing a series of live podcasts at the same time as, but not affiliated with, the Melbourne Comedy Festival. That's right. So I'm going to be there at the European Beer Cafe. If you go to their Instagram, Do Go On Pod, there's some links and you can buy a ticket for that. They also have a, actually associated with the comedy festival,
Starting point is 00:03:38 Do Go On, a trivia show, which is a bunch of shows where they're going to do, they're going to run like a, Dave has a background in trivia. Yes, he does. Like fun trivia shows. He's got a fun origin story. He sure does. You know what I mean, of backstabbing and the like, doesn't he? And a band called Weed Hornet.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yes, all of those things. He does? Yeah, and a nickname that he gave himself, Cobra. But apart from all of those things, he used to do like fun trivia shows in the comedy festival, so they're bringing that back and it's going to be like, they're going to do like a do-go-on report, but it's also going to be like fun trivia shows in the comedy festival, so they're bringing that back and it's going to be like they're going to do a Dugon report, but it's also going to be fun trivia for the audience.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I don't know if that's sold out. I don't know what's sold out. I don't know what's going on. But if you want to pop in and watch the show, say hi. I will be popping in. Link's available. I'm going to one of those shows. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Somebody I know has booked me into one of those Dugon shows. Not to be on. Yeah. To go. Nice. I don be on. Yeah. To go. Nice. I don't know which one. That's terrific. So maybe you'll see me, my grey head bobbing around in the audience.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Trying to like get invited up on stage. I'll still focus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, James, maybe I'll fall sick on the day and your dream will come true, you know, like rock star style. The Mark Wahlberg movie? Is there anybody in the audience who can do a podcast where somebody else provides all the information
Starting point is 00:04:48 and you occasionally chip in? Half the hands go up. I'm not getting picked, am I? Yeah. But then it'll be back to Mark's piece, obviously. That's right, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So these are the news of the week if you do want to skip around.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Of course, we're going to do a little bit of an Oscars this and that, I guess you could call it. It's time for Oscars this and that. We normally, not normally, like we don't record, we don't like base a show around the Oscars. We could have waited, but, you know, nothing ever happens. But this year something happened. Something happened, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And we have to address it even though it's got nothing to do with this. Bruce Willis news, not great news, but we'll get to that. Ezra Miller news, again, not great news for different reasons. Certainly not great news for the studio that's bringing you the Fantastic Beasts, the new Fantastic Beasts, because they're, you know, whatever you think about it, they were like, finally dodged that Johnny Depp bullet. Now it's plain sailing for us over at Fantastic Beasts Enterprises.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yeah, that's right. Oh, no. Oh, no, What have we done? It prequel news. Mission Impossible news. Delays but not dismays from Star Wars stuff. The Crow is back. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And then, of course, straight into Monthbius. By straight, I mean after all of these things. Anyway, let's start off with the slap that will echo across all of eternity. Now, of course, you're talking about the Christos Chalkis book, The Slap. I am, and the subsequent series. There's the Australian series and there's the US series, both of which maybe have Melissa George. That's terrific.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a suburban slap felt around the world. Let me tell you this, James. Let me tell you this. It felt like it was going to be echoing around the world as it happened, but a week out. That's true.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Let me tell you this, James. You would know this about me, but I feel I should tell the listeners as well. Were I an icon of cinema, you know, a household name, I've brought in billions of dollars at the box office, you know, and I've spent the last, conservatively speaking, quarter of a century honing my public image and all my choices of movies so that I might one day win. You know, my industry is highest award, the Oscar,
Starting point is 00:06:51 and then 15 minutes before that was due to happen, someone I know, a famous comedian in front of millions of people, made fun of, like, my wife's physical features, I would simply not react. Yeah. But I'm built differently, I think. I mean, I think it's something that, you know, you would be. We talked about Unsuggestible. Clay and I did a 40-minute episode.
Starting point is 00:07:07 That's terrific. I think it's something you have every right to be upset about, you know what I mean? But, James, no, no, you're not listening. I simply wouldn't be upset and I simply wouldn't react. I'd simply be above it all, even though probably, you know, it's the most tense I've ever been in my life and everybody around the entire world is watching
Starting point is 00:07:25 and I know that the entire world is watching. I simply would just brush past me like it was nothing, I think. Like a, I was going to say brisk wind, but not even. A gentle breeze. Just a gentle breeze like it was nothing, yeah. I mean, look, again, I've talked about this extensively and I'm sick of it. For people who don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Oh, yeah, recap. I wrote here recap. There and I'm sick of it. For people who don't know. Oh, yeah, recap. I wrote here recap. There you go. Do a recap. Chris Rock, comedian Chris Rock, went up on stage at the Oscars, made some jokes about Jada Pinkett Smith's alopecia. Well, apparently he didn't know she had alopecia and thought she just shaved her head.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Oh, just shaved her head. Okay, right. According to him. And I would say that's probably true because he seemed very confused about afterwards and it was like it was a G.I. Jane joke, like what happened. But again, I don't know. It's just rich people slapping each other.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Well, see, that's the thing. That is the core of it. I mean, we've seen a million trillion hot takes this week about what it means for society and people and relationships and what have you, but ultimately I feel personally it's two men with a combined worth of probably half a billion dollars and they had a little spat. Yeah. I don't, just a couple of weirdos.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And you shouldn't slap people. I think you shouldn't make fun of people's physical features or commit physical violence on people. Sure. Again, because I'm the sensible sense. You wouldn't do anything at the time, would you? I wouldn't need to because I wouldn't feel the need because I'm so zen. I'd remove myself.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Like I think I've actually done it right because I wasn't involved at all. Yeah, yeah. You took yourself out of the situation, yeah. Yeah. So look, apparently. It's a whole other level actually. Now apparently also Will Smith was maybe asked to leave but maybe that wasn't true.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like the academy conferred. And I'd imagine they went, what does this mean? Because they knew he was going to win. What does this mean for ratings? What's the pushback if we kick him out? You know, if he wins and he can't accept it, what does that look like? But we know he's winning, so what does that look like if he does get up and make a speech?
Starting point is 00:09:21 And also, if his entire goal of his career was to win an Oscar, and I feel like it kind of was. Yeah, he's been doing it for like since Ali at the very least. After he's won it, it doesn't matter what happens. Yeah. If they were like, listen, you have won, but due to your conduct tonight, we cannot in good conscience. We are rescinding it in good conscience.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah. They still voted for him, didn't they? Well, that's right. Still counts as a win. So Chris Rock, I mean, also Will Smith issued a public apology. Chris Rock. He retired from the Motion Picture Academy of Arts and Sciences. Because they were like weighing up, like, well, what do we do?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Do we take back his Oscar? Do we take him out of the Academy? He stepped away. Chris Rock didn't mention in his shows. He had some shows on. He's like, I'm still processing this. So I'm, you know, I got to kind of think my way through this before, you know, opening up about it, which makes sense.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Instead I'm going to talk about the big piece of chicken. Big piece of chicken? You used to have a joke about a big piece of chicken. I don't know that joke. I just remember bits about him, you know, yelling about his wives or other people's wives. Not about Will Smith. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:23 And maybe they're doing too much shopping. I don't know. I haven't watched Chris Rock in like 20 years. That's wives. Not about Will Smith. Do you know what I mean? And maybe they're doing too much shopping. I don't know. I haven't watched Chris Rock in like 20 years. That's true. I don't know. But I mean. Women do be shopping. That's true.
Starting point is 00:10:32 But I also be shopping. Wow. I can't throw stones, can I? Do you enjoy breaking gender norms? Yeah. Is that something you love doing? Shattering barriers? Yeah, it's freaking sick, man.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Cool. I just feel different. Well, that's true. As it is already established. I would simply remove myself from shopping or not shopping. Whoa. I would not participate. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I would not commit to a firm stance. There's also, I don't know, I don't think it'll happen, the talk of, like, whether they're going to take back his Oscar. But, like, once you open that door, why don't we start doing, why don't we look around at the history of Let's look at the history of the men, exclusively men who've been given Oscars, and see how many probably should have them taken away for various conducts.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And they could definitely shield that behind, like, well, this happened on the night, so that's different. Right, okay. If that's the case, like, that's weak as piss. I don't think they'd go down that route, but who knows? I don't know. Again, I'm over it at this point. And I remove myself even further.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I'm taking even a bigger step back. That's so brave. That's so brave. I agree. Anyway, let's do some good Oscar news. There was a Lifetime Achievement Award for Samuel L. Jackson. Oh, this, look. That's not why I bring it up.
Starting point is 00:11:43 You know my favourite thing about, you know, there were so many favourite things. I mean, it certainly got people. I started watching it after. It certainly got eyes on the Oscars, didn't it? Timothy Chalamet wore like a suit but with no shirt underneath. Wow. Shirtless with a jacket.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I bet his publicist or his stylist or whoever was like, you are going to be the talk of the Oscars this year. Nobody's going to be able to talk about anything else than the daring wardrobe choice you've made. And I can just imagine him like like, after the Oscars, just shivering out the front waiting for his car service to get there. I'm cold for no reason. Oh, what a mistake.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Am I British? Is he? Probably. He's American, but he lived in France for a while. Wow. Two terrible, what a terrible combination. Sure. Remember the Iraq War?
Starting point is 00:12:22 They didn't agree on that, did they? Freedom fries? Oh, do you think he was really torn in that era? I think he was. I don't think he was born then. What are we talking about? Sam Jackson. You told me.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I didn't even know this, but he got an award, right? He received what is essentially a Lifetime Achievement Award. It was given to him by Denzel Washington, and it was just a real emotional, like a beautiful thing. Astounding he hadn't got one yet. But it was off. It was like it wasn't in the regular telecast it was just kind of like it was they shoved it off with like the in the alley yeah like the like the you know all the the crew awards and the production awards and stuff where that's like so like the idea that
Starting point is 00:12:59 they cut a bunch of stuff to save time didn't even work even if you factor in the will smith chris rock thing it still went longer than any other any other rock like certainly longer than cut a bunch of stuff to save time. It didn't even work. Even if you factor in the Will Smith, Chris Rock thing, it still went longer than any other, like certainly longer than last year's. Yeah. Look, and I think the Academy needs to lean into like film nerds. And again, I talked about this on Suggestible, but they're trying to be like relatable and be like, oh, there's so many Marvel movies, blockbusters.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Oh, yeah, yeah. Whatever. And it's like just look, you all love movies and Hollywood glitz and glamour and you all love patting each other on the back. Just do that. You don't need to reach out to the common people. There was a lot of jokes about Marvel movies and there was a lot of jokes about like Power of the Dog. I couldn't even understand the Power of the Dog.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Really? You didn't get that? Pretty straightforward there. I don't know what kind of movie you want. Well, I haven't seen it, but it's the dog that shoots a big laser from its mouth, isn't it? Yeah, it's Laser Dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:50 That was the power of the dog. Why didn't they call it Laser Dog? Well, because that was the mystery. Because at the start of the movie, you know the dog has a power. But what is it? But what's the power of the dog? And you think it's like love maybe or it can do a big jump. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Like it maybe dunk a basketball. But it does all those things. Yeah. So you think the power was, you've seen it all. Yeah, and then every time Benedict Cumberbatch looks to the camera and he goes, but that wasn't the power of the dog. Oh, shit! You're right, and you have to keep wondering
Starting point is 00:14:14 what the power of the dog is, but then it's the giant laser. So, it's interesting because Pretty straightforward. Oh, yeah, because, like, you know... Maybe it's the fake-outs that confuse people. You'd only not know what the power of the dog was if you didn't finish it. Yeah. That would keep- I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:14:27 You would have- I have seen it actually. But that would keep me watching. Yeah, exactly. To see what the big power was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, there also- there was hashtag the Oscar cheer moment. Yeah. And this is where Zack Snyder wins big.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Well, he won twice, didn't he? He did, yeah. He won for- He won because he's rich. What's the second thing? Well, A People's Choice, which was the best movie of last year, which was Army of the Dead. Yes. And look, I didn't like it and you liked it.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I thought it was fine, yeah. I thought it was fine. And look, I'm glad people got some enjoyment out of it. We did discuss it on the podcast. But I would say if you thought it was the best movie of last year, like the best movie. You haven't seen Laser Dog. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And I would say if I implore you, treat yourself to a second movie. Just anything is fine. Wow, yeah, really? Yeah, just anything is fine. But, yeah, the biggest one I think was that the – I mean these awards were both specifically engineered so that fans could vote in Spider-Man No Way Home
Starting point is 00:15:23 as the best movie of last year and get some recognition for that thing that already made a billion dollars. Yep. And I've got to respect the Snyder fans for voting that in. That's the thing. I feel like, I mean, I've forgotten about this, and we mentioned it when they opened it up, but I'm like, oh, Spider-Man will win it or whatever, I assume.
Starting point is 00:15:40 But you can't underestimate that fandom because they will not let a thing go. That's right. I should have known. Yeah. You know what I mean? They're the only one who could sustain caring about something for that long. Yeah, that's true. Like, again, you know, the box office was big for Spider-Man No Man, but that doesn't
Starting point is 00:15:56 necessarily translate to people who are like, I am going to vote. You got to vote like multiple times a day for several months or something like that. I mean, realistically, it should be just like what sold the most tickets because that would be the most one-to-one comparison, you know what I mean? But then again, what do you do for streaming? I guess that's not really fair. But I think these two awards illustrated to me, and I think people said this, that like whoever produces the Academy Awards,
Starting point is 00:16:23 they're an older demographic and this is their attempt to pander to younger people. And my feeling is this is a sign they should get younger people into brainstorm for this sort of thing, not because they did these awards but because they didn't do them hard enough. What they should have done is they should have done a video montage. They should have got a bunch of, like, filmmakers, film historians, movie critics.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Oh, us. Yeah, us. Well, yeah, throw us in. Why not? I was going to say people with some, like, presence and some passion for movies and stuff. Hi, I'm a guy who just made this movie premiere. And some people ask me what my favourite movie is,
Starting point is 00:17:02 and I say cinema. You know? I couldn't tell you my favourite one because I don't have any preferences. I finish talking to the red carpet and then I just go home and I sit in a chair until it's time to go to sleep. Not even an armchair or a lounge chair, just a wooden-backed chair. Sometimes I stare at static. I've always got my hands
Starting point is 00:17:26 on my hips no matter what I'm doing. I'm holding a microphone with one hand on the hip. That's right. What they should have done, and they should have got a bunch of these people, some people who've got some presence and you go, I see that charisma. And then you should get them all to bring to the table. You should film them. Bring to the table
Starting point is 00:17:42 some moments where they're like, in your storied career, what you do like here's tell us some great moments where you felt like really felt something and like you know some joy and you wanted to stand up in your chair and clap yeah you know from any time in cinema and then once they've done that you show some clips and you show some context whatever so people who haven't seen them know. And then individually you tell each of them that tens of thousands of people on the internet decided that the best movie moment of all time was when The Flash entered the Speed Force in Zack Snyder's Justice League and just filmed the reaction.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Because that would be my cheer moment, James, my ultimate cheer. Because, again, this one isn't for just this year. It was for all time. Was it? Does that mean they're not doing it again? Yeah, they can't. The time moves forward. I mean, they're not going to do it again anyway because this was a disaster.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But, like, from train pulling out of a station or into a station or whatever it was from now, like, people are like, this is the best thing that's ever happened. I thought it was just 2021. I did not know that. It also includes an end game and some other stuff. Oh, the best thing that's ever happened. I thought it was just 2021. I did not know that. It also includes, doesn't it include an end game and some other stuff? Oh, the hammer thing, I assume. Yeah, or something.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Anyway. Oh, no, it was all the portals opening in Endgame, I think. So that's, yeah, it was all time. So, and then, but that, my standing up in my chair and cheering would be just a bunch of auteurs and film critics going, I don't know if I saw that. Is that? Yeah. Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Was that? I'm actually a bit, I'm out of the loop if I'm honest. Yeah. I'm a bit out of the loop. Yeah. Wow. Be good, right? I'm just excited to talk about Bruce Willis.
Starting point is 00:19:21 And by excited I mean this isn't fun at all. That being said, just before we get into that, any Oscar winners you were like, they've nailed that, or any Oscar winners you were like? No, I don't. I only engaged with it after the thing happened. Sure, sure, sure. And I'm not going to watch it next year, even though it's like,
Starting point is 00:19:37 well, anything could happen, but that's not going to happen again, is it? Some people said it was a stage slap. I don't think so. And if it was, like, okay, well done, I guess. You got us. Yeah, you got me. You got me. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:19:50 The only thing they might do next year is if they've patched it up, they'll present an award together. They'll make some slapping jokes. And that's comedy. That is comedy. Here's something that's not comedy. Bruce Willis is retiring from acting for health reasons. There was a family statement via Rumor Willis, one of his kids. I won't read the whole thing, but I'll
Starting point is 00:20:10 read an excerpt of it. To Bruce's amazing supporters. As a family, we wanted to share that our beloved Bruce has been experiencing some health issues and has been recently diagnosed with aphasia. Is that how you say it? Because I don't think I've actually said it out loud. Which is impacting his cognitive abilities. As a result of this, and with much consideration, Bruce is stepping away from the career that meant so much to him. As Bruce always says, live it up, and together we plan to do just that. Now, like, we've addressed this, like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:20:37 the last year or so about what is going on. We have made some light fun of the movie choices Bruce Willis has made. But then it got to a point where, I don't know, like six months ago where we started to hear some things, nothing concrete. See, I read this recently that it was an open secret that he had aphasia, but that's still a secret, so we didn't know. Yeah. Oh, I don't think anybody's coming at us.
Starting point is 00:20:57 No, that's true. But, you know, I think we shan't be – I don't think we feel bad necessarily for making light of some of his movie choices. I know, it's just a terrible situation. But we wouldn't have made, had we known, we wouldn't have made fun of him. Yeah, I just hope though in these, like he wasn't being taken advantage of in these situations.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah, right, right. Like if he was happy to be there and he was like, you know, this is impacting me and I want to look after myself and my family. He's only 67 as well, which is like that's – he's got a lot – he could have hopefully a lot of time ahead of him. But yes, it's just really sad. And if you look at his career, like obviously removing like the last couple of years, so much good stuff, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:44 for like 40 years. That's true. You know, and he was one of the few people who transitioned from TV to moonlighting to movies. He was one of the two actors who went from moonlighting to movies. That's right, exactly. Just him and Sybil Shepard who was in some movies presumably. And then some TV as well.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But, yeah, so, I mean, I guess we're not going to really, really be seeing him much again. Yeah. I assume unless there's some kind of, you know, treatment that works. But as far as I can tell, it's just like a thing that continues to affect you. And I think this probably explains, like, you know, we have talked about the mystery of Bruce Willis and why he does these movies. And I think it is probably something along the lines of, well,
Starting point is 00:22:20 if he knew he wasn't going to be doing movies for much longer, why not take a bunch of paid? Like, if, you know, your job wasn't going to be doing movies for much longer yeah why not take a bunch of paid like if you know your your your job isn't going to be continuing yeah after a certain amount of time why not you know do do eight million dollar movies absolutely that's eight days work yeah that's you know and we also don't know like how long has he known you know what i mean like maybe he was in decline and they didn't know what was up and you know what i mean like so who knows because he was doing like you know i don't know when expendables 2 came out and't know what was up, you know what I mean? So who knows? Because he was doing like, I don't know, when Expendables 2 came out and it was in one of the G.I. Joes and he obviously did, what was the one, the sequel to Split?
Starting point is 00:22:53 Oh, Glass. Glass, yeah. And I'd imagine he would have been, like that would have been in the time that it was known. So anyway, he won't hear this and neither will his family, but we wish him well, yeah. Do Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson have any scenes together in Pulp Fiction? I don't think so, no.
Starting point is 00:23:12 He shoots John Travolta. But no, I don't believe so because I think one of them would have killed the other, I'd imagine, in the movie. You know what was a weird moment in the Oscars? What's that? When John Travolta and Uma Thurman came out with Samuel L. Jackson to present Best Actor after Will Smith just slapped somebody. And they're just like, remember Pulp Fiction?
Starting point is 00:23:30 We're doing a little dance. And it's like, what? You don't have to do this thing in rehearsal. You weren't even in that scene, Samuel L. Jackson. Well, he didn't do the dance. He was just standing there like, I do remember this. There's just like a brief glimpse at the side of stage before they go on where Travolta's like pointing and shouting at him.
Starting point is 00:23:49 He's like, when we go on stage, you do not do the dance because you were not in that scene. Don't do it. Don't make there be a second slap at the Oscars. So this is why. Here's some other terrible news. Wow. It's a terrible news day.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Finally. Wow. I mean, and in month bias of all. I know, right? The most joyous whatever amount of time this has been and will continue to be of the year. This initial report is via Hawaii News Now, but local police charged the Flash's Ezra Miller
Starting point is 00:24:21 with disorderly conduct and harassment. The 29-year-old was allegedly yelling obscenities and became agitated when people began singing karaoke. This was at a local bar. Miller grabbed the microphone from a 23-year-old woman who was mid-song. Police said Miller later lunged at a 32-year-old man playing darts. Miller was arrested, charged, and released after posting $500 bail. And you'd think like, well that's not a great story.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And also, wasn't there a time when they choked a woman on camera and nobody at the studio addressed that and everything just moved forward? Did that not also happen? Yeah, that is still a weird mystery that whole thing. It's not a mystery in terms of like, it wasn't a joke, it wasn't a prank. It was a choking. Chokes, not
Starting point is 00:25:04 jokes. No, I agree. No, opposite. Yeah, I got you. Opposite. I got you. Opp wasn't a prank. It was a choking. Jokes, not jokes. No, I agree. No, opposite. Yeah, I got you. Opposite. I got you. Opposite, Mason. Okay, fine. Thank God I yelled opposite. It's true. But it doesn't end there because Miller has also been issued a restraining order after allegedly threatening and stealing from a couple
Starting point is 00:25:19 they'd been staying with after they bailed Ezra out of jail. So they put up the $500 and they'd apparently met at a they bailed Ezra out of jail. So they put up the $500 and they'd apparently met at a farmer's market and were like, you know, and they were like, hey, what about- Let's have fun adventure times. Yeah, why don't you come and stay with us? So according to the court document filed, Miller burst into their bedroom and said, I will bury you and your slut wife.
Starting point is 00:25:42 The actor is said to have stolen a wallet, social security card, passport, driver's license and bank cards. Wow. Normal stuff. Normal stuff. Yeah. Well, I was saying, like, thinking earlier, if you get a weird theatre kid, you put him in the Hollywood machine,
Starting point is 00:25:58 you either get Timothee Chalamet or you get Ezra Miller. There's only the two options. There's only two options. If only there was a middle ground. Sensible middle ground. Like a Muniz. Or a Timothee Chalamet, which is the better option of the two, I think. I agree.
Starting point is 00:26:12 So, look, clearly something is going on mental health-wise, you know, because I feel like I don't want to jump. It's terrible. Like, what are you doing? You know what I mean? But obviously they're not well to be doing things like this. And of all weeks, Month B.S. Month B.S.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But also Fantastic Beasts is out this week. Yeah. And there's a Flash movie just sitting on the shelf. And guess who happens to be the main person twice. Me. No, Mason. I'm in it. Twice.
Starting point is 00:26:37 No, Mason, stop it. Oh, wow. Twice in that movie. There's two of them. Oh, there is? Unless one of them is a fake out. Sure. But probably not.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Probably not. I guess, do you think Warner Brothers are going to do literally anything? No, because they haven't really done anything else regarding any other Justice Lee or that sort of spin-off stuff. I'd imagine they're probably not going to do something for Fantastic Beasts. But if something happens between now and The Flash, they're going to have to at least say something. Yeah. now in The Flash, they're going to have to at least say something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:08 But I don't think they can be removed from The Flash because there's two of them. You know what I mean? Unless there's a lot more. They should have already recast. Like it shouldn't have got this far, you know? Yeah. I mean, and maybe this movie has a lot more Batman than we think and it's really, I mean.
Starting point is 00:27:22 God, you'd hope so. I wonder if there's enough, I wonder if there's a scope. I wonder if there's enough like – you know what? There are 100%. There's somebody in an editing bay somewhere who's been given the task, can you turn this into a Batman movie? Just like Batman Flashpoint. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And then they write Flash really small. Flash really small. Underneath. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Batman Flashpoint, Flash really small. Flash really small. Underneath. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Batman Flashpoint, Flash really small. Yeah. So, you know, I don't have any faith in, like, them making any kind of positive moves or any kind of repercussions or anything.
Starting point is 00:27:53 But, you know, you can't keep ignoring this. You know what I mean? I think we're going to stop seeing Ezra Miller in things after the Flash. Agreed, yeah. There's going to be a Shia LaBeouf style fading out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Maybe an attempt.
Starting point is 00:28:08 No, I was going to say maybe an attempted resurgence on like a dystopian game show like The Masked Singer or something like that, but probably not. That's for a certain type of person, and Ezra Miller is not that certain type of person. Yeah, but Ezra Miller would dress up as like Princess Toadstool or something and be like, I'm a Mario character. Oh, yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I don't know. Anyway, I don't watch that show, so whatever. Remember when we were like, I'm a Mario character. Oh, yeah, maybe. I don't know. Anyway, I don't watch that show, so whatever. Do whatever on that show. You know? That's fine with me. The Australian version had George Columbaris in it. Fine with you now, is it, James? Oh, Mason.
Starting point is 00:28:37 James. This is all bad news. Celebrity restaurateur and host judge on MasterChef. Famous wage thief. Yeah. George Colin Burroughs. Yeah, that's great news. Thanks, Mason.
Starting point is 00:28:49 No problem. I would just, I just, one day we should do a Masked Singer episode is all I'm saying. I've just. What, watch a bunch of it and then talk about it? And the masked dancer. Oh, my God. It's the show.
Starting point is 00:29:02 How do you dance with a big sty from head? Badly. That's the point. Oh. But just, it's just, you should watch. How do you dance with a big styrofoam head? Badly. That's the point. Oh. But just, it's just, you should watch, I don't know if you watched any of it. I watched the entire first season of the Australian version, and it's the show, it's a game show you would watch, the characters would watch in Robocop.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. Like it's that. Like the sequel, like the Hot Tub Time Machine sequel. It's like that kind of game show. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. They should have just made Christian Slater Christian Slater in that.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Just be like, he looks the same and he's hosting the show. Agreed. I don't get it. A lot of missteps in that movie. You know? Yeah. Hey, here's one bit of news. Mason.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Ready for this? Just before you do your one bit of news, I need you to know that I've already put this in. All right. So next week you have to bring two bits of news. Oh, no. That's right. These add up. But anyway, give your one bit of news that I know.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Well, one bit of news that you already know, James, is that this week some people, they were like, it's time for a fun rewatch of Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Who's rewatching Falcon and the Winter Soldier? I think people who just want to feel a kinship with the villain because they do pretty much the right thing the whole way until they just start blowing up like buildings full of orphans or whatever to prove that they're the bad guys.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Oh, right. They want to do that. But they discovered, all these people discovered, that one episode had been pretty heavily edited to remove a lot of the blood and violence in it. Wow. So, for example, there's a – There's a pulse.
Starting point is 00:30:18 In one episode, somebody gets like a metal pipe thrown through their arm, but in this edited version, it just bounces off them. Yeah. And there's like a dead body and it's bloodless. Yeah. So according to Disney, they were testing out some parental control options. They're going to offer us increased parental controls if you want to show your kids the bloodless version of Falcon the Winter Soldier.
Starting point is 00:30:44 They're making that and they accidentally uploaded version of Falcon and the Winter Soldier, they're making that and they accidentally uploaded one of those as the standard episode, apparently. Did this happen recently as well with something else? Probably. They're constantly editing and tweaking stuff. That's the thing about streaming services. They can, you know, it's like games.
Starting point is 00:30:58 You can patch them. That's true. The Ryan Parker on Twitter said, I hear from a reliable source it was a software control issue and the wrong file was recently published accidentally. It's been corrected immediately. People were in a bit of a tizz. They were in a tizz. Yeah, but I've already watched it, so I don't care.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah, true. You delete it all. I'm done. I'm done with it. There are some scenes in that show, like, what are they going to do with the part where John Walker beheads that dude? I mean, you don't really see it on screen. That's true, but there's a lot of blood.
Starting point is 00:31:24 That's true. Wow. I hope he's okay. really see it on screen. That's true, but there's a lot of blood. That's true. Wow. I hope he's okay. The guy who gets killed. Yeah. Yeah, they'll probably add some ADL line where he's like, I'm fine, actually. I'm fine. Time to go to sleep on the street.
Starting point is 00:31:34 He knocked me into a beautiful dream. Yeah. Oh, that reminds me. We've been doing recaps for Moon Knight. We certainly have, mate. TV series Moon Knight. Because it's month night. A lot of people don't know that.
Starting point is 00:31:42 It is month night. That's true. And we actually received the first four episodes ahead of time, but we are watching them one at a time. We're doing week to week. We're doing week to week. We're just like you, the common people. The common people.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Because it's hard to do recaps when you're like, what's going to happen next? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's already been. Actually, we know. We can't. We're not going to do that. We don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And all the videos would just be like, well, this is going to make sense later, I think. Exactly. Because there's already people like, oh, God, wait, do you see this bit in episode whatever? Which I won't say because I haven't seen that episode. That's true. So, like, yeah, we're just – I know McCollings is doing
Starting point is 00:32:13 a wonderful edit. I mean, how could he not? How could he not, Mason? Who's going to stop him? His job depends on it. Exactly. No, that's not true at all. That's true.
Starting point is 00:32:20 He's got so many other responsibilities as well. Yeah. His job depends on all of those. Good stuff. And, yeah, so that's true. He's got so many other responsibilities as well. Yeah, his job depends on all of those. Good stuff. And yeah, so that's up. The first one's up now and they will continue to go up. It's it, Prequel News time. Why don't you jog on, you absolute donut,
Starting point is 00:32:34 and go watch those videos. It's so annoying because that video that went up is not doing as well as my Morbius post-credits saying, which took me like a minute to make. This Morbius recap where there's also- How's the Caravan of Garbage doing on The Losers? Because what I discovered is that a lot of people don't believe
Starting point is 00:32:50 it exists, that movie. There's a lot of like, what is this, excuse me? It's got 184,000 views, so lower than normal. But Jonah Hex was like the biggest video for the last 10 videos. It's like Jonah Hex is your biggest video of the last 10 videos. And I'm like, what? I've made, what do you mean? It's even with its, like not, it wasn't bigger than Catwoman.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I thought Catwoman would be like. People love cowboy stuff. That's what it turns out that they do. Anyway, Green Lantern this week. That's what I don't think they're going to garbage. And then maybe, just maybe, Star Wars prequels. But who knows? Maybe, just maybe.
Starting point is 00:33:21 It's prequel news. Okay, great. Welcome to Derry, the show. We'll reportedly focus on the ongoing events of the town of Derry in the 1960s. So nothing. No, there's a clown. Oh, okay. As it leads up to the events of It.
Starting point is 00:33:36 The prequel series will reportedly also include the origins of- James, you can breathe. You can pause to breathe. No, no, I had some coconut sugar and it's not sitting well with me. It also includes the origins of Pennywise the Clown. Director Andy Muschietti, who directed the two movies, will also help develop the story. Okay, so when is this?
Starting point is 00:33:51 So the most recent It movies are set in the present day but also in the 80s? 80s? Yeah. Okay, and Pennywise kills people every 30 years. Yeah, with a gun. He started with a gun. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Yeah, I got this gun from the shop. And I'm just here to shoot some years. Yeah, with a gun. He started with a gun. That's nice. Yeah, I got this gun from the shop. And I'm just here to shoot some kids. Yeah, yeah. That's great. So this is going to be set in the previous cycle, I guess, of Pennywise killing people. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:14 So that's fun. Are they getting back one of the Skarsgårds? Bill Skarsgård? He is back. Yeah. We have more Skarsgård news this week as well. But, yeah, I was kind of more interested in seeing a movie of this, but, you know, I like that first movie.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And the second one, like the book and like the previous telly movie, it's not as strong a story as the first one. But I thought it was a pretty solid all-round adaptation of that very long and weird book. For sure, yeah. Yeah. So big Stephen King fans will know this. The tall ones.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Yeah, the biggest ones will know because I don't know. Has this era been explored in the books? I can tell you this. Okay, go on. No. Okay, right. There's a little bit of hints towards the origin of Pennywise. He's fighting a big space turtle.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I know that much. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and arrived when like in the time of the dinosaurs and just been laying dormant. But maybe they're not doing that. But also there is some origin stuff in the movies. But it's mostly like, look at this old photo. It's actually Pennywise.
Starting point is 00:35:13 But it could be all made up or whatever. So anyway, I can't wait to see how he earns enough money to get that gun. How about this? Pennywise is back. Before it colon Pennywise dinosaur fighter. Yeah,, colon, Pennywise dinosaur fighter. Yeah, I mean, what's he turning into to scare a dinosaur? A meteor? Wait.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Because he's got a scary. He has that gun though, doesn't he? No, no, that's in the 60s. Yeah, but who knows when he bought it? Yeah, that's a good point. He has the gun in the 60s, but when did he buy it? Probably prehistoric times. I thought he saved that for the gun in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Oh, with his part-time job delivering newspapers. Yeah, but I actually don't know. And this is the kind of story that we can delve into. Also, I think eventually- Oh, you know what? He probably kills the dinosaurs with like a little car that he's made out of dinosaur bones and what have you, and he pedals with his feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And he crashes into the dinosaurs. That's great. Yeah. That's funny too, because he's a clown. Oh my God, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, that's right. Wow. So Bill Skarsgård, who is maybe the one, the Skarsgård.
Starting point is 00:36:11 It is definitely Bill Skarsgård. Terrific. He is also going to be Eric Draven's The Crow, according to a Hollywood reporter. We recently did a commentary on this on BigSandwich.co. And as we know, everybody gets a go at being The Crow. That's right. That's the expression in Hollywood. In Tinseltown where anything can happen and frequently does. And as we know, everybody gets a go at being the crow. That's right. That's the expression in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:36:25 In Tinseltown where anything can happen and frequently does. And this is what's happened here. Rupert Saunders who directed both Snow White and the Huntsman and Ghost in the Shell reboot, remake or whatever, is going to direct. I guess those movies did well. Who's to say? Isn't one of those?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Snow White and the Husband got a sequel. Okay. Where it was just Hemsworth. What am I thinking of that had Jeremy Renner in it and he was a monster hunter? Are you thinking of, yeah, I know the one that you mean. Hansel and Gretel Witch Hunters. There we go.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Yeah, now you're thinking of that. I am. So, yeah, so he's apparently going to be the crow for now, but who actually knows? Yeah, and also, as mentioned, that's a big sandwich this week, our private subscription service. There's also a new episode, I think, what is it this week, Mason? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:37:12 James, I couldn't tell you. Let me bring up my little list and we'll have a little fun time. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. Oh, Time Crapshall, 1946. Oh, my God, we look at all the pop culture from 1946. But also the episodes of Moon Knight go up there early. Oh, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Let me tell you this, James. I love learning about what people found entertaining in bygone eras. Fascinating. I just, I mean, nothing thus far has been as, speaking of crows, nothing thus far has been as exciting as Jimmy the Raven, the crow that was in a thousand films. Can't wait for it to pop up again. Yeah. All right, let's move forward.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Okay. This is also via The Hollywood Reporter. Tom Cruise. Whoa, Tom Cruise news. He's fighting the studio about a Mission Impossible 7 or 8 release window, whatever the next one is. Yeah, 7 or 8 because Fallout was 6. Okay, there we go.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Now the studio, Paramount, they say we've got Paramount+. Why don't you put them on Paramount+, Tom Cruise? We're going to do a 45-day release window, Tom Cruise. And he's like, actually, no. I want to do a 90-day cinema release, which is the old model. Yeah. But, of course, when we were kids, the model was four years. Sure was, yeah. Four years and then your uncle would get a tape from someone. Sure. But, of course, when we were kids, the model was four years. Sure was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Four years, and then your uncle would get a take from someone. Sure, yeah, okay, yeah. That's when you could watch something. Yeah. So apparently a source at Paramount told The Hollywood Reporter, for Cruise, 45 days is like going day and date. He also felt that settling on a date when the movie could be seen on the service would discourage people from going to the theatre.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I agree. Yeah. I think if you know it's coming and you're like, oh, it's, what, 45 days? That's fine. I can wait. But it's like with Spider-Man, they didn't announce it. It was just like only in cinemas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:54 See it at cinemas. Do you want to see an insane thing? See it at cinemas or whatever. I mean, speaking of insane things, just the idea of all the just barely death-defying things Cruise has probably done on Seven and Eight. Yeah. And just the idea of like, yeah, you know, wake up and switch your TV on and see it on a kind of a smallish screen
Starting point is 00:39:13 compared to a cinema screen, you know? Absolutely. And I'd imagine Paramount are also weighing up what are we going to get from a one-time visit to the cinema. You buy a ticket, you buy popcorn. They don't see any of that popcorn in the cinema. Do you know that? ticket, you buy popcorn. They don't see any of that popcorn in the cinema. Do you know that? I mean, the studio.
Starting point is 00:39:28 They don't get any of that popcorn. When you purchase a popcorn, any popcorn you don't eat goes in the bin. They don't take it back to Paramount. That's pure gravy for the cinema operators. Exactly. They can eat as much popcorn as they want out of that bin after. Yeah. Okay, let me ask you this, James.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Sure. Popcorn with gravy, where are you on it? It doesn't exist. Oh, no. And it would be bad. That's upsetting. What do you think about it? That's upsetting. I don't like that. You'd need me ask you this, James. Sure. Popcorn with gravy, where are you on it? It doesn't exist. Oh, no. And it would be bad. That's upsetting. What do you think about it? That's upsetting.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I don't like that. You need to eat it with a spoon. That's the problem. I don't want to eat anything with a spoon, Mason. All right. Name a thing that I could eat with a spoon. Soup. I'll drink it.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Name something else. Ice cream? I'll drink it. So you'll wait until it melts? No, Mason. Okay, great. I don't know why I've committed to this thing. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Yeah. Also, so they're weighing up between, I'd imagine, putting in theaters, get a one-time ticket sale, or how many people can you get to Paramount Plus? And once you get them on Paramount Plus, you get them every month. Maybe, because they forget. What's on Paramount Plus? The Halo series, maybe?
Starting point is 00:40:24 Halo, obviously, and the movie Infinite with Mark Wahlberg. And Yellowjacks is on Paramount Plus if you're an Australian. I already saw it. Yeah, I saw that already. Dexter might be on there. Dexter is probably on there, yeah. But again, it really is a case of, you know. And it is nice for the comedians.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I can't remember. I looked up something today and I'm like, oh, it's good to know it's on something that I have already. So that's good. You know who I realise is still banned from Paramount, it turns out, from the screenings of movies? You. Me.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Because of that thing you did. The thing that I did years ago. Legally, I want to point out. For those people who don't know. You know the movie That Thing You Do. That's about James and the thing he did to get him banned from Paramount screens. There was a Transformers screener for Age of Extinction, I want to say.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Like we didn't get a copy. No, no. And I initially replied and said, yeah, no, I'll come. And then I found out it was playing locally. And also I think it was before the movie came out as well. Oh, okay. So you came to the conclusion that you weren't allowed to release an early review if you saw the free screening, but if you paid for your own ticket, that would be fine.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And I also emailed and said, and I didn't sign anything. All I said was like, yeah, no, I'll be there. And so I put out my review and my review was, this movie sucks. It's terrible. And I got frantic and furious emails that are like, you have to remove it or whatever. And I'm like, oh, I'll remove it if you want me to. But here's my emails.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I was pretty clear that I wasn't going to come. I understand. I'll remove it. I don't care. I just saw this as a regular joke. Yeah. And I think I even sent them my ticket. It was like, here's my ticket.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I bought it. And they went. And I sent it. I posted it to myself so you can see the stamp was on the envelope. And they went, I know. We spoke to the higher-ups or wherever and we're just going to – I got a suspension or something for like six months. And I didn't notice because nothing came out that I wanted to see.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So I just hadn't bothered until like Sonic 2 came around. I'm like, oh, see if I can get my son to see Sonic 2. And I emailed them. Nothing. Wow. Blank. Then you coached your son into sending an email himself. Hello. Hello.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Please, I want to see Sonic. Or Elsh. So anyway. Wow. Well, I've got the Paramount Plus channel open right now. And let me tell you, most popular on Paramount Plus right now, speaking of regular Joes. Oh my god, Snake Eyes. We'll squeeze that in this week.
Starting point is 00:42:49 We'll squeeze it in by the end of this show. Last bit of news, Mason. Delays but not dismays. Obi-Wan has been delayed. Oh. Two days to May 27th and they're also going to release two episodes on that one day. Terrific stuff. Oh, that's right. I saw a viewer there. He was like, hello. How many episodes would you like to see? Three. That's too many. I can do two at best. But let stuff. Oh, that's right. I saw a video there. He was like, hello. How many episodes would you like to see?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Three. That's too many. I can do two. At best. But let me tell you, two will blow your balls off. You can't handle three. We're not even going to release a third episode. They'd annihilate your balls completely and then you'd never be able to reattach your balls. Wow, that's powerful stuff. Right?
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Starting point is 00:44:34 Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. My goodness. Snakes up on you, doesn't it? You think it's never going to arrive. Like Christmas. Like Christmas, exactly, when Christmas used to mean something. But even that being said, I even had my month-beer's advent calendar out
Starting point is 00:44:54 and every day I was taking a chocolate out, a bloody chocolate, and it still snuck up on me. I thought in honour of like we put up a calendar. Last one was no time to die because they kept delaying it. I looked online around for a month-vious calendar. There's no Morbius calendars. What? There's, like, handmade, like, fan ones.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Oh, Etsy.com. Or whatever. But I couldn't get an official Sony Morbius calendar. Is that because it's April of 2022 and they've all sold? No, but there seems to be no, there wasn't ever a version of it. Anyway, we'll talk about more Morbius right now because it had a $75 million budget. So a bit on the lower end for a comic book movie.
Starting point is 00:45:31 James, Amazon.com, Morbius 2022 calendar. We can have it delivered free by Wednesday. Wednesday? Yeah. We kind of need it now. Vampire, Morbius 2022 calendar, vampire movie, gift idea, white elephant, secret Santa. Vampire movie. Gift idea. White elephant. Secret Santa.
Starting point is 00:45:46 What? I don't know. Birthday present. 2022-2023. Monthly planner for superhero film fans. Well, this must be new because I didn't know this, Mason. Yeah, I mean, it looks... Does it look real?
Starting point is 00:45:56 I mean, it looks real, but it also looks... I don't think it's official. Okay, fair enough. Anyways, $75 million budget. It was expected to hopefully make $50 million in the US opening week, but it's only going to make between $38 million and $41 million. Cinemas are empty from the images that we've been sent. $38 million isn't the worst figure I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:46:15 No, it's actually not terrible. Venom actually made $90 million. Venom 2 made $90 million, right? It also has a 17% Rotten Tomatoes score, but a 69% audience score. Yeah, nice. Which makes me think, like, who's doing that? I'm suspicious.
Starting point is 00:46:31 You think it's review bombing somehow. I just don't think anybody is, like, in the corner of this movie. That being said, what do you think the story was? Oh, okay, hang on. All right, so it's Dr. Michael Mulvey, such a service. Yeah, hello. And he's, as a young lad, he's like, oh, I'm all sick and that. Yep.
Starting point is 00:46:47 But one day I'll do the best science there is and I won't be all sick and that. I hope so. And I won't be sick and that and my friend Matt Smith won't be sick. He won't be sick and that, will he? He won't be sick and that. And we'll stay friends. Stay friends. We'll stay friends.
Starting point is 00:47:02 So I'm going to do some science. I'm going to do some shady science. But I'm Morbius now. I've been Morbius-ed. Morbified. I've been completely Morbified. And let me tell you, it's Morbifying. I'm absolutely Morbified. You're absolutely Morbified. I'm absolutely Morbified.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah, that's it. Anyway, it's good stuff. Anyway, so someone, who knows who, because we'll do non-spoilers, I guess, starts killing people. And they think it's Dr. Dracul Drobius. But we, who knows who, because we'll do non-spoilers, I guess, starts killing people. And they think it's Dr. Dracul Drobius. But we, as the audience, don't think it is him. Drop your Drobius. It's Michael Morbius.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Anyway. That's sheer charisma of this character. You know what I mean? God, it's boring. It's so boring. It's short, though, isn't it? Is it? Okay, let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Let me tell you. Here was my evaluation of this. I reckon the first 40 minutes, not good. It's fine. It's fine. I didn't even hate it. Yep, I agree. Whatever you think about it.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Didn't I say that to you before going in? I'm like, initially, you're going to be like, this is actually not that bad. Yeah, like whatever you think of Jared later, if you think he sucks, and he does. Yeah. I'm like, this is a pretty decent performance. I like there's some interactions. He's pretty low-key as well he's pretty he's not
Starting point is 00:48:07 over the top or anything and I feel like him and he's got he's got a sort of a sort of will they or won't they relationship with like a fellow doctor yep and I'm like okay that's pretty good and they you know they have a good back and forth there's some other supporting characters and then after like 40 minutes every minute after that gets exponentially worse until you get to the post-credits scenes for which I think everybody should be sent to prison. So we talked about last week when we heard like what are these post-credits scenes that have made people flip their lead? Because people like the worst thing that's ever happened. Like it's the worst thing in the movie by far. It's the worst post-credits scene I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:48:43 It points to like a nonsense future that doesn't make any sense. And we're like, what does that look like? Now, initially you were like, I think you were like these, because you saw it in advance of me. So I think initially you were like, these aren't so bad. Well, no, not when you, not on the, I mean, they're not good, but on the surface it's like this isn't the worst thing I've ever seen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:02 But when you think about it. Anyway, we'll get to those later because we've got to get into the meat of this. But I think, yeah, after about 40 minutes, I reckon I was checking my watch every 10 minutes and then after a little bit I was checking my watch every five minutes. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:49:16 And then I'm trying to think like the ticket said, the ticket I bought said when it finishes and I'm like, did it say it finishes at 9 o'clock or 9.30? And what time did this start? What time did it start? How many ads? I had the same thought. I'm like, I look at my clock and I'm like, oh, okay,
Starting point is 00:49:31 so I think I've been here an hour and a half. No, because it didn't start on time. It's definitely a short moment. But, yeah, like at a certain point it gets so like rote and it's long but it feels rushed. Yeah, it does. What I think we learn, what I think I got the impression. What did you learn?
Starting point is 00:49:49 What I learned from this movie, what this taught me about life, is that in Tinseltown anything can happen and it often does, but also that I think they just chipped a lot of this movie out just to, I guess, to have a quick run time. To get more people in. To get more people in. So this isn't a spoiler, I don't think, because it's a thing that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:50:11 But Tyrese Gibson. Yeah. There are two FBI agents who are pursuing Morbius. One is Al Madrigal, who is a stand-up comedian. He's been in great stand-up and I think he's been on some TV shows and stuff. I heard him on Jordan Jesse Go like 15 years ago and I saw him in this. I'm like, oh, it's Al Madrigal. This is great.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And he's kind of like the – He's fine. He's kind of the goofy partner. Yeah. And then the other half is Tyrese Gibson. Yes. And all I knew about Tyrese Gibson's character is I saw an interview he did at some point and he said of his character,
Starting point is 00:50:46 his character has a like – and it's mentioned in the movie that one of Dr. Michael Morbius' innovations saved his arm when he was in the war. Yes, because he's created a – Artificial blood. Synthetic blue blood. Yeah, yeah. So Tyrese Gibson was led to believe that his character would have
Starting point is 00:51:06 like a bionic arm. And there's a quote from him in an interview where he says that arm has all kinds of special effects and powers and that's going to mess people up when they see this movie. And so having known that, every time I saw his character in the movie,
Starting point is 00:51:21 he has one hand in his coat pocket the whole time. And every single scene You're thinking he's going to go claw on everybody. Every single scene in the movie, he has one hand in his coat pocket the whole time and every single scene. You're thinking he's going to go claw on everybody. Every single scene in the movie, I think I'm like, I'm absolutely just waiting for him to like, he's interviewing Morbius and he like slams his hand on the table and he's like, I've got some powers too or whatever,
Starting point is 00:51:37 and you see he's got a cool robot arm. You ain't so hot. But guess what? Nothing. Literally nothing. Nothing. A couple of points as well, like very briefly, he has both hands out of his coat pocket and he's just got a regular hand. And I'm like, maybe that's a flesh-colored robot hand and he's going to punch Morbius and like the skin is going to come off and it's going to be metal.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And I'm like, that's cool. That is cool. last scene that he has in the movie, he is wearing like a police vest and he's got his sleeves rolled up and one arm just has like a little, it looks like it just has a little brace on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know whether that's something they were going to CGI later, but I didn't know this. So Levens, Andrew Levens from the HeyFam podcast.
Starting point is 00:52:19 He got COVID. He got COVID this week and I messaged him. From Morbius. Yeah. And I said, thank God you got COVID for the movie Morbius. Thank you for your service. But, you know, we were talking about it and he said, he told me about the arm and he sent me through this thing
Starting point is 00:52:32 where I looked at, so it says, Stroud has a high-tech weapons-grade arm in the film and Gibson described him as a superhero. Gibson has signed a three-picture deal when he joined the film. Wow. But they kind of just. And his name's Stroud. Stroud.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Stroud maybe. But he kind of just, he's just like suddenly they're not in it. You know what I mean? They don't do anything. They capture him like initially and then they kind of go crime scene to crime scene but they never, they don't think they actually meet again properly, do they? Or they do. I don't know they actually meet again properly, do they? Or they do.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I don't know. It's because it's real boring. Why are they making, like, this is every origin movie since, like, Spider-Man, even pre-Spider-Man. You could go back to, like, your early Supermans or whatever. You know what I mean? It's just hitting every origin story beat. And, like, to be fair, Shang-Chi did it recently,
Starting point is 00:53:23 and it's pretty fun and inventive and at least just seeing new stuff yeah but what is what what is there here like the innovation i guess we get this is that he has sort of a when he moves there's a sort of a smoky effect yeah but what is that even i don't think it's like he's he's got bat power sort of yeah he's got some inexplicable bat powers one is a spoiler which we'll get to so there's this kind of like trail as he moves or flies or goes quickly yeah but i don't know whether the effect is supposed to be that we're seeing him move quickly but it also happens when he's not moving quickly i don't think it's anything i think they just wanted i think they
Starting point is 00:53:59 just said he needs to have a signature effect around him. Yeah. Like, I don't know, Iron Man has the chest arc reactor or whatever. He's got his Iron Man thing. He's got his whole Iron Man thing or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it's just, I just, oh, God. And I know, like, in terms of special effects, I think people are saying the special effects are wonky. I don't think they are.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I think they're fine. They're just not innovative. Yeah, it reminded me of Bloodshot. You know when two CGI bloodshots were fighting each other or whatever? So the villain in this, it's Matt Smith. They have, again, they have the same. Is this a spoiler? Yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It's in the trailers. Or it isn't. They have the same condition. Yes. The blood disease. And they also have, they end up getting the same powers and they battle. And that's so uninteresting because like. I mean, it's the trope we always make fun of and it's,
Starting point is 00:54:57 if you were to say there's a big, if you were to rank all the weaknesses of the Marvel movies up towards the top would be oftentimes a hero just fights a villain who has the same powers. Yeah. And it's not interesting but also. At least the Green Goblin has a different suit. It's true, yeah. Like they're matched physically but they can do different things, you know, whereas this.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I mean these guys have different suits. Morbius has a trench coat and Matt Smith has a real zoot suit kind of vibe going on. Matt Smith can dance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's fun. Yeah, but there was never a point in this movie where you didn't think that Matt Smith wasn't going to be the villain, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:29 Yeah, true. And there's a moment where it's like somebody's killing people. There's a vampire killing people. It's probably Morbius. Probably Morbius. And, like, the previous scene, Matt Smith's like, give me the vampire cure. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:40 And he's like, you don't want this. You'll turn into a vampire. He's like, give me that cure. I'm going to give you that cure. I'll kill everyone you love. And then you're like, wow, what's going to happen? Who's this mysterious Dracula running around? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Doing Dracula stuff. Jared Harris is in this to kind of Uncle Ben about and give everybody a lesson. Yeah, yeah, true. Wasted. I mean, he must have been bloody drunk when he signed up to this. Oh, mate. Apparently, Karen Gillan encouraged Matt Smith to do this.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I saw that, yeah. She was like, I did a comic book movie and you should do a comic book movie. Yeah, they're fun. You're in a different universe. Yeah, you should have talked to Kevin Feige and gotten Matt Smith a role in the good universe, I think. I agree. I mean, he still could. So I saw a tweet recently that suggested that Matt Smith is just,
Starting point is 00:56:29 like he's gotten the short end of the stick every time he's tried to do a genre thing. Terminator. Terminator. There's one prior to that. Another one. Another one. Another example. Two examples.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Rise of Skywalker, he was supposed to be the young emperor. Oh, yeah, yeah. The emperor. Yeah, so, all right. So he gets his bat powers and they do the boat thing. So in the comic books as well, he does his Dr. Dracodrobius thing, experiment on a boat out in international waters and with a bunch of mercenaries there, right?
Starting point is 00:57:00 And so then he kills everybody on the boat. And it's not a terrible sequence, to be fair, right? And then from there he's like, what do I do? I have this affliction and I want to drink blood. Luckily, me, Dr. Michael Dracula, has invented a fake blood, but it only works for so long because the window of how long this fake blood will last, it is a shortening right down. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:19 But also, like, just drink the bags of blood you also have. But he doesn't want to turn evil, James. Yeah, but he doesn't. Like, I don't think, like, they're not, I don't see what, like, if you drink regular blood, it doesn't turn you evil. You just want to drink blood, right? Here's the thing. He's the main guy.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I mean, this is a spoiler of sorts, I think, but the only real reason that Dr. Dracodrobius stays good and Matt Smith goes evil is because Matt Smith's character got, like, pushed over by bullies 25 years ago. That's true. There's no real, and I guess he's, but the thing is, and he's also, like, he's like the pampered one.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Like, he's come from a very rich family and he has good cars and penthouse apartments and what have you. So I guess he's just not as good. Yeah. So I don't know. But like he's supposed to be an anti-hero. Yes. Like a villain or an anti-hero.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah. But he's not. He's just a hero. Yeah. He's not willing to. He isn't like. Like he kills some mercenaries, who cares? Like at the very least Venom's like, at least at the very least.
Starting point is 00:58:30 He'll bite the head off somebody or something. Exactly, at least, you know, Eddie Brock is like, okay, you can kill some real bad guys or whatever and eat their brains. Yeah. At least that's interesting. Why can't this guy drink human blood from real bad guys? Yeah, and he ends up doing it anyway at the end, nearly, sort of. No, he does.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And then he doesn't turn evil. He just gets more bat powers maybe. Because he's the main guy. Exactly. Have we talked about this enough? No. Do you remember the bit at the start of the movie where Michael Morbius is caring for his patient?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, oh, man, you've got the same Michael Morbius disease as me. Oh, no, it's kicking into gear. I'm going to put her in an induced coma. I'll make sure I'll come back to this later. She never comes out of the coma. You're right. She's just stuck there.
Starting point is 00:59:14 She's still in that coma. Anyway, that's fine, I guess. Also, what about the line, you don't want to see me when I'm hungry? Ah, yes, a little bit the Hulk style. Also, they didn't commit to him. They should combine those for the next movie. A new character should be like, you won't like me when I'm hangry. That's right.
Starting point is 00:59:31 But they don't commit to a couple of things. One, his silly, silly disco costume. Yep. Or two, his, like, his horrible face. Yeah, because he can. Because one of the things in the comic book is that he's a, like, he looks like a bat Dracula man. Yeah. But in this he can sort of, if not at
Starting point is 00:59:47 will, initially, like when he... Yeah. When he... He's just handsome. When he runs out of blood or he has too much blood, he transforms back into regular Michael Morbius and he's not scary anymore. Yeah. And he's like, oh, but I run out of blood. Oh, it's alright, I won't.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Because I have access to a lot of it. There's a moment. Now, let's do spoilers. It sucks. It's bad. It's really terrible. Yeah, well, look, worst movie ever. Don't see it. But, I mean, see it when it's on Disney+.
Starting point is 01:00:13 No, watch the post-credits. That's all you need to know. Oh, yeah, you're probably right. About the future of this franchise. I would be fascinated to see where this movie lost people, though. Like, at what point? Did you make it half an hour? Did you make it 40 minutes?
Starting point is 01:00:24 Is it always 40 minutes? I thought also there would have been more, I think it would have been what if they did like at the start he had to go through the jungle and he's on his canes or whatever and he has to get to the bat cave to get the bats, to get his bat magic powers. Like he just lands a helicopter and he walks up to it, but wouldn't
Starting point is 01:00:39 have been interesting to see like, and I feel like you could have juxtaposed like him moving through the jungle and this whole expedition. Is this movie worthy of a juxtaposition james i don't know do you know what i mean like i get that he's like frail but like you you see the struggle do you know what i mean where it was just kind of like he's kind of nice and he he's rude there is some there are some odd pacing issues and there is a there is a sort of him learning about his powers is just like him writing in his journal. I can do a flip.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I can do a fly. There's no part where he's like fumbling through the city and things happen to him and he reacts and then you see how his powers go. There's just a moment where he gets back to, I presume, New York City and he's just like, and it turns out I'm very strong and I'm very fast
Starting point is 01:01:24 and I've got echolocation powers and blah, blah, blah, and actually I've figured out all my powers, so don't even worry about it. I wasn't worried about it. Okay, let's do spoilers. Yes, spoilers. Worst movie ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:35 It's worse than the Venom movies because it's more boring. I think it's on par with the Venom movies. I have no, I don't think they're very good. No, I don't think they're very good either. I mean I like Tom Hardy and things but I just – But at least they've got that thing where there's two of them talking to each other. That's true.
Starting point is 01:01:53 That's what got it over the line for me. And Woody Harrison's wig only in the first one and not in the second one. Okay. I don't know. I feel like – I kind of feel like Venom is just like it's too fan service-y but I'm not the fan they're interested in. But then that suggests to me that there's no fan service in Morbius because there's no fans to serve really.
Starting point is 01:02:15 No, it turns out. Anyway, what are we spoiling here? Let's start with this. This is a tweet from, I want to talk about this, from Ben Berkowitz who says, so let's say we're in a hospital at Mr. Sunday Movies and I give you a nickname based on the several other people that died prior. Do you keep that nickname throughout your life or tell me to fuck off?
Starting point is 01:02:32 Hashtag Morbius. Okay, because Matt Smith's character's real name is Lucian, I think. Yeah, but ooh. Is that anything? No, anyway. Like a reference, I don't know. I don't know. I was like, is Lucian like vampire? No, that's like him. Somebody called Lord Lucan. I don't know. Like vampire, no, that's like
Starting point is 01:02:46 somebody called Lord Lucan, I don't know who that is. That's really great. It's great, isn't it? It's so weird because he gives him his name in passing as a joke and then later when Milo's dying, he's like you gave me my name. It's like, yeah, he gave it to you because he flippantly because he thought you were going to
Starting point is 01:03:02 die. You're not really friends I guess, Or you are? I don't know. Ooh, James. Lord Lucan was a British peer who disappeared after being suspected of murder. Wow, that's great. Yeah. What about this?
Starting point is 01:03:14 I got this from Venus Eater who says, deadly to bats, fatal to humans. Remember that line? I do remember that, yeah. So they have to stop. He has to stop Matt Smith. How's he going to do it? Poison, it turns out. So he has to stop Matt Smith. How's he going to do it? Poison, it turns out. So he gets a vial of poison.
Starting point is 01:03:28 But he can't get near him to stab him. So he summons bats. This is at the end. And he does a big bat duken. He has the same bat fists that Dracula has in the movie Dracula Untold. Very Dracula Untold. That's right. A classic of the genre.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I agree. And I thought that was like, I mean, there's a moment where he's like, these bats like me. Yeah. But there's no like nothing beyond that. And then in the end he just summons a bunch of bats to do a big bat dukin. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:58 That's a stupid movie, I think. Yeah. Should we talk about what universe this is? Well, I guess we have to talk post-credit sequence then. Yeah. Should we talk about what universe this is? Well, I guess we have to talk post-credits sequence then. Yeah. Okay, so there are two post-credits sequences. His girlfriend dies. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:12 But she's alive. So that's right at the end of the movie. And then the movie just ends. Yeah. She wakes up. Because she got a drop of his blood in her mouth. You think she's going to die. You think she has died.
Starting point is 01:04:21 She's been killed by Matt Smith. Oh, no. But then at the end she wakes up and he's defeated Matt Smith with the big bad duke and he's flying across New York City. He's floating around like a packet of chips. And like just a loose packet of chips. And don't put him in the
Starting point is 01:04:36 oven because he'll shrink. And then she wakes up and then it just ends. So we never see any resolution to that or whatever. There's two things that are not in the movie. There's a bunch of stuff that there's two things that are not in the movie there's a bunch of stuff that's in the trailers are not in the movie most notably the point where he he uh he beats up a dude in a in a counterfeiting lab yeah and he says in the trailer he's you think it's just he's beating up some random dude and in the trailer he goes i'm venom i'm just your old pal michael morbius haha Ha-ha, it's your service. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:05 That thing. But no, they put in the Venom bit. They did, but they took out the Michael Morbius thing. Do you think they took out all the weird Jared Leto-isms in this? Oh, maybe. Is that why he's so low-key? Maybe. Because he doesn't have.
Starting point is 01:05:16 He's quite so short. Yeah. And the second thing they took out that's in the trailers is there's a, which I assume was the original post-credits sequence. Yeah. Or maybe. Or during the movie when he's in prison? Yeah, maybe. original post-credits sequence. Yeah. Or maybe. Or during the movie when he's in prison? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I think it's when he's in prison. It must be one of the moments where he's in prison where we see Michael Keaton as presumably Adrian Toomes, the vulture from Spider-Man Homecoming. Yeah. And he's like, hey, Dr. Michael. What are you doing here? We should have a chat.
Starting point is 01:05:42 We should talk later, Dr. Michael. What are you doing? We both fly. You fly like an empty packet of chips. Get out of here. I think that's because... You're me. Vulture and the chips, we could call ourselves. This movie, I think, was supposed to be in the MCU. Right, yeah, yeah. And then they changed it. Yeah. And this also... Oh, and the other thing is there's an image of Sam Raimi's Spider-Man that they took out, which apparently the director said they just put in the trailer unbeknownst to him.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Right. Yeah, I don't blame the director for any of this. It doesn't really feel like anybody had a hand in any of it. Or too many people had too many hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Avi Arad. Just being rad. Yep, always.
Starting point is 01:06:19 So the post-credits sequence. So also this movie has been in the can for a long time. Yes. Two years maybe? Well, I mean, it's been long So also this movie has been in the can for a long time. Yes. Two years maybe? Well, I mean, it's been long enough, and this has been pointed out, it's been so long enough that the original trailer said from the studio that brought you Spider-Man, Far From Home, and then it changed to from the studio that brought you Spider-Man,
Starting point is 01:06:39 No Way Home. Oh, I forgot to mention up top it has the classic in association with Marvel. Oh, my God. Twice. And the posters say a new Marvel legend arrives, to mention up top it has the classic in association with marvel oh my god and the and the and the this posters say a new marvel legend arrives so it's they're really leaning heavily on it even though marvel absolutely does not want them to anyway so basically what they've done is that
Starting point is 01:06:55 since spider-man no way home came out they have rushed into production one post-credit sequence that has been split into two yes because they're like well these movies have two post-credits sequence that has been split into two because they're like, well, these movies have two post-credits sequences. So there's one straight after the title card in the credits and there's a mid-credits and there's nothing at the end. So the first one is there's a big purple multiverse rip that appears in the sky. What? And then a man appears in a prison cell what and it's michael keaton it's
Starting point is 01:07:27 adrian tombs and he's like and he he's clearly been given the direction imagine you've been transported to another dimension and he's like i don't know what that means so i'll just like touch my face and my head and yeah he's in two multiversal franchises now isn't that crazy god right great great stuff anyway so he appears in a cell and then there's a news report that suggests he has appeared in the cell and because there is no record of him committing any crimes, he is free to go, which suggests that he has come from the MCU into the Morbiusverse. Which is also the Venomiverse.
Starting point is 01:08:02 The Venomiverse. And maybe other things. Right. And then there's half of the credits. Yep. Is there anyom-a-verse. The Venom-a-verse. And maybe other things, which we'll get to. And then there's the half of the credits. Yep. Is there any more to that? No.
Starting point is 01:08:09 They let him go. Well, they're like, we'll probably let him go. Yeah, yeah, they let him go. And then there is the mid-credits is Morbius in completely human form drives a car into- Why is he driving? Because he can fly like a packet of chips. Like a packet of chips.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Yeah. On those desert winds. Yeah. He drives out of, presumably way out of New York City. chips. Like a packet of chips. Yeah. On those desert winds. Yeah. He drives out of presumably way out of New York City. I don't know where he is. Yeah. To a spooky house. To a spooky house.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Which might be a nod to that Spider-Man origin comic. Oh, where he goes to the lizards. Yeah. Spooky house. Spooky house. So he drives out into this desert location late at night and then who should arrive? Who is it? It's Adrian Soames the Vulture.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Because you hear somebody coming and you're like. You see some wind and you're like. Who could it possibly It's Adrian Soames, the vulture. Because you hear somebody coming and you're like. You see some wind and you're like. Who could it possibly be? Huck. Who could it be? Could it be Tyrese Gibson's character? Is he flying through the desert on his robot arm? Just dragging him along.
Starting point is 01:09:01 With his powers and gadgets and what have you that are going to blow your mind. Is this where we finally get our mind blown by the powers of Tyrese Gibson's robot arm? Hells yes. But no, it isn't. It is Adrian, Michael Keaton's Adrian Toomes the Vulture. Yeah. Who is inexplicably in his full Vulture flight suit. But it's not the MCU one.
Starting point is 01:09:20 It's been redesigned. And Fidel pointed this out. How much redesigned? The mask is different. The wings are different. It's got differentigned. And Fidel pointed this out. How much redesigned? The mask is different. The wings are different. It's got different colors. Okay. But Fidel, of course, works on the Great Mates page and many other wonderful things.
Starting point is 01:09:31 He said that from the post-credits scene and also the credits, the Vulture wings look like the Vulture wings from the Amazing Spider-Man universe. And I don't know whether that's a mistake or a distinct or like an effort to be like this is actually the amazing Spider-Man universe. Oh, to suggest that this is the amazing Spider-Man universe. But what does the vulture say? Oh, his mask doesn't pop up. It's 80-yard. Yeah, it's 80-yard so you don't see him. And it sounds like Michael Keaton recorded it in a closet.
Starting point is 01:09:55 On his phone. On his phone. Oh, almost definitely on the phone. And he's like, hey, I don't know. How did I get here? I don't know how I got into your world, but I must have been something to do with Spider-Man. I think we should team up and do some good.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Yeah, we should team up and do some good. And then Michael Morbius says, intriguing. Yeah. And then it cuts the credits and then everybody in my cinema laughed. It's almost as if. All eight people in my cinema laughed. They had footage of Michael Morbius standing somewhere saying intriguing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:26 And they just can't matter. This is the worst case scenario of the Zack Snyder Justice League scene where someone arrives to visit Bruce Wayne and they don't know who it is yet. But luckily, Zack Snyder has $50 million to fill in that blank. Yeah, absolutely. In this, they don't have anything. Yeah. You know what the thought I had was? This isn't a spoiler for that,
Starting point is 01:10:45 but just going back briefly, the scenes in the movie where Michael Morbius fights Matt Smith, they look like PS5 ads. They do. You know, where it says underneath it, it says, like, not in-game footage, where it's Kratos fighting a big thing and you're like, well, that'll be a cut scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they look good for a PS5 game.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Totally. But that's what they look like. They've got that weird vibe and that weird. You're right. That's not a spoiler. That is not a spoiler. Anyway, so you're right. So the Vulture mask never comes off.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah. But there's so many questions. Yeah. Like so is that the suit? Did he? Okay, so he. Apparently, no, he. Where did he get the suit is the question. The questions. Yeah. Like, so is that the suit? Did he, okay, so he. Apparently, no, he. Where did he get the suit is the question. It is a new suit.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Okay. But he can't build the suit. He didn't build the suit. He didn't build the Tinker or build the suit. He doesn't have any of the Chitauri tech because that never happened in this universe or it did wherever we are. Yeah, right. Also, he goes, must have been something to do with Spider-Man.
Starting point is 01:11:40 And the director has said there's a Spider-Man in this universe, but we don't know who it is other than it's not Tom Holland. Okay. I don't think it's Tobey Maguire and I don't think it also could be Andrew Garfield because it is in the Venom-iverse. Yes. But Venom has never seen Spider-Man before because when he goes into the MCU he's like, what is this?
Starting point is 01:11:56 The hero of all the movies. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like he would have known that there was a Spider-Man. And I said for the way to Sony to fix this but they have to pay me money was that you make it the Miles Morales universe. And I really hope they don't do that because this is not a good universe. I don't like being in it.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I don't like anybody in it. I don't like how it connects to anything. It won't be the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man universe because he's pretty much done with the whole thing. And it's not going to be if it could be anybody it could probably andrew garfield but he's not gonna see this yeah he's not going to hear about the this and go yeah i'll commit to three that's a junk universe as well even though he's a great spider-man yeah yeah like his movies are like then it's a junk universe yeah it is yeah so to if we can no-prize this, we'll just provide a solution for it.
Starting point is 01:12:45 What it may mean is Adrian Toombs has arrived in the amazing Spider-Man universe, the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man universe, and he has learned that under the Oscorp building there is a vulture suit. Yes. And he's like, well, I had a vulture suit, I guess. And I'll take this vulture suit. Why not? I mean, I could just be a guy who flies a helicopter or whatever,
Starting point is 01:13:09 but I'll actually be a guy who I really got used to being a winner flying in a jet-powered wingsuit. Big clawed feet. Yeah, right? So I'll just steal that somehow. But, again, that doesn't explain why nobody knows who Spider-Man is in this. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I mean, a lot of people have also put forward, because obviously we have the Gamers On Award, where, like, it's a movie that, like, that hints to a larger and wonderful expanded universe. Very confidently. Very confidently, that's right. And this obviously, well, this isn't confident. It's more like, hey.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Hey. Guys. I know you're busy, but I don't want to be a bother but just the like the reason this these these post credits are so egregious to me and maybe we haven't got it across properly is because they don't they like at least with a marvel post credit sequence you go oh okay we're you know we're getting a sequel and these guys are going to be in it, I think. And that's intriguing. Or at the very least they call back to a thing that you know are like. But this means nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:08 And they're very obviously like, if this does well, we'll figure out what any of this means. Absolutely, yeah. We don't know. We haven't. We've not figured out the internal logic of why any of this is happening. We've not figured out why they'd be doing good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:24 We haven't figured out is this a Sinister Six thing because No Way Home kind of did the Sinister Six. I think they are looking to do it. Who's left though? At best this will be a Sinister Three. They're doing a Kraven movie at the moment. So that's the three. But if I were Sony and if I were Kevin Feige, I'd be like.
Starting point is 01:14:42 So you're Sony and Kevin Feige? I'm both of them. Wow. There are always two wolves inside of you. One's Kevin Feige, I'd be like. So you're Sony and Kevin Feige? I'm both of them. Wow. I would just be like. There are always two wolves inside of you. One's Kevin Feige and one's Sony. I'd be like, we're tying this off. Like this is separate. The only thing that could save this universe is that people sort of like Venom.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And by that I mean they make some money. But even then, you could just put it in a big Ziploc bag and put it in a bin. That is, assuming all the actors are back on board, we've now got a Sinister Four. So it's Morbius, the Vulture, Kraven the Hunter and Venom. Maybe Carnage. And they're going to do some good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:18 So they're the nice four. What does that mean? The nice four. Yeah, because they're all anti-heroes. They're not villains at this point. And the thing about them also is, and we sort of recently read some Morbius comics. Yeah. The fun of Spider-Man is he's got a massive rogues gallery of interesting characters. None of these people have any rogues.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Who are they going to fight? Guys with robot arms, I guess. Yeah. Look, if I was doing this and I would never, I would never be so bold. So you'd never be Sony? No, that's right. What I would be doing is would be building villains.
Starting point is 01:15:55 I would be making villain origin movies who are villains, people who go bad in every movie. And then you're like, this guy's a murderer and this guy's a murderer. Where is this leading to? And then Spider-Man has to fight six murderers and a guy in a vulture suit or whatever. Yeah, right. You know, like, I mean, they... But I don't think they would also because they can't, there is...
Starting point is 01:16:14 People don't see movies where it's just... Yeah, and I think they would also be like, well, we can't, like, we've reached this point where there's a huge backlash against morally grey characters. Like this is as morally grey as I think you can do in a mainstream. It's so uninteresting though, isn't it? You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yeah. God. Who are they going to fight? Who are they going to fight? And that's the thing, they don't know either. No, they absolutely don't know. I wonder, somebody might have this somewhere, because I certainly don't know it,
Starting point is 01:16:42 who's left in the Sony Spider-Man deal? Like what characters are left? Like in terms of, well, they're doing a Madam Web movie also. Oh, yeah, right, right. Like will she connect to the universes? Oh. She can do that stuff, can't she? If it's depending on the Madam Web, I guess.
Starting point is 01:16:57 I guess so. Because it might be the one who used to be Spider-Woman and is now Madam Web. Oh, yeah, that's right. We did talk about this, didn't we? Maybe it's not, but maybe they combined you know, but that's the thing, this is just a mess, but
Starting point is 01:17:09 I would love to know who is left in that deal because it's got to be written, because you know with the Marvel Studios deal I think it's anybody who was introduced in a Spider-Man comic That's why Morbius is here, yeah, right, right, exactly That's why Morbius is here, that's his catchphrase That's why Morbius is here. Yeah, right, right, right. Exactly. That's why Morbius is here.
Starting point is 01:17:25 That's his catchphrase. That's why Morbius is here. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Tremendous. Got some reviews here from people who have written in. Like Scott, who says, I have two boys, 11 and 10.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Oh, back to back. You know what I mean? Back to back boys. Just pumping them out. You know what I mean? Sure, yeah. Yeah. I hesitate.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I didn't mean in a rude way. I meant in terms of, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah of I've covered that well I hesitated to take them to Morbius movie because of the potential of vampiring and blood thankfully I went and watched it alone not because of the blood and gore but because I have zero chance of explaining what was happening
Starting point is 01:17:56 Broderick says all I want to hear about is how you think the flying looks other than that the Morbius review could go the way of Snake Eyes or as in we're saving up for a big review big review yeah think the flying looks. Other than that, the Morbius review could go the way of Snake Eyes. Whoa. Or as in we're saving up for a big review. Big review, yeah. It's from Baz.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Oh, do you have, I mean, I guess we talked about the flying, but I mean. It's not good. I mean, it's not great, but it is accurate to how he, because he doesn't really fly in the comic books. He's got hollow bones. Yeah, he's got kind of a wind current vibe going on. So I guess it's accurate, but. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Bazmatasm says, Morbius certainly was a movie, wasn't it? Unsure if it deserved all the hate it's getting. I'll say this, though. It's nice to see Tyrese turn his screen intensity down from the usual 10 to a cool 5. I did like that, actually. Yeah, his character was pointless, but still. Yeah, it was actually nice to have him not screaming the entire time.
Starting point is 01:18:40 So now we know it's just the character of, what's his name, Roman? Roman. We just know it's Roman. Roman Polanski is his name in the movie. No. Is that not true? It's not true, no. No, I'm Roman Polanski.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Unrelated. Oh, I see. That's great. Yeah. John Mortison says, my Morbius review for Weekly Planet Pod, hashtag Weekly Planet Pod, is that we should have seen the Batman again instead. Yep. Abby said, I had high hopes for Morbius.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Why's that? Wow. And then it's just trial and error because they've fallen unconscious. And honestly, my expectations were exceeded by how terrible it is. Oh, there we go. That makes sense. Julie had a good chuckle in the empty cinema. I love the age-old tell-don't-show on me too.
Starting point is 01:19:21 There's a bit at the start when I knew we were in for a treat. When he gets off the helicopter, he's going to get all these bat samples for some reason and he has to be there for whatever reason. And someone on the helicopter is like, oh, do you need a doctor? And he goes, I am a doctor. It's like, yeah, you didn't know that? Like you don't know who you're transporting? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Well, they didn't exist until the scene started. Those people didn't exist. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Adam says, Morbius, two Dracula boys are mates and they punch for a bit. Incredibly dull.
Starting point is 01:19:49 One out of five. Morbius post-credits, two absolutely nonsensical scenes setting up a movie that hopefully will not happen. So bad they are art. I cacked. Five out of five, actually. There you go. Does that say cackled or?
Starting point is 01:20:03 No, cacked. Like you cacked yourself. You cacked your dacks. Wow, actually. There you go. Does that say cackled or? No, cacked. Like you cacked yourself. You cacked your dacks. Wow, that is bad. I agree. Ray said, the worst part of Morbius was that it just wasn't anything. Not spectacularly bad or confusing. It exists and we're all worse off because of it.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Agreed. So what do you think? I mean, the game is on award, which we award every year to a movie that, again, et cetera, tries to do a thing. Where does this fall in on that? I think this is a strong contender. Even though it's already in an existing universe and they will make more Venom movies.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Yeah. Do you think they're going to cut off the Morbiverse? This Morbstrocity. That's a great question. It wouldn't shock me if they put Morbius in a Venom 3. Or in the Sinister Six because they have to. Because they have to. Because they need someone.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Because they barely, like it wouldn't shock me if they did a Sinister Six and there was only five members and they just tried to sneak it through. Yeah, pretty good stuff. All in all, this was just, imagine taking a property that no one cares about and making it even less interesting afterwards. It's all the more. Yes. interesting afterwards. It's all the more. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Thank you. Thank you. It's all the more BS. Thanks for the setup. You're welcome. It's all the more BS because that's what the MCU did. They took a bunch of, like, this, in a way, the circle is completed. It's a real aro-morbius.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Oh, very good. Because the MCU exists because Marvel licensed out all its top flight characters like it's it's A-list characters
Starting point is 01:21:32 like Spider-Man and Fantastic Four and the X-Men the most popular ones to other places and so when they put together Marvel Studios
Starting point is 01:21:39 they only had the dregs ultimately which have become so well regarded and also they I guess the difference between this and Marvel is, Marvel, Marvels and Marbles, this is also a difference, is Marvel needed that to win.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Otherwise they would have lost it all. Like they would have had to get rid of all of those characters, and they have anyway because they're at Disney or whatever, it's all under Disney. They haven't got rid of it, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So they were really like, this has to work because we don't have anything else. Whereas Sony are like, oh, yeah, we'll do that too.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah. In addition to Uncharted and making video games. And do we do DVD players? I don't know. How's that Sony Ericsson deal going? We're still making phones? Do we have a streaming service? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Do they? They don't, do they? Sony? Yeah. I think at the PlayStation, like you. Yeah. They've got the PlayStation. You can access other streaming services through your PlayStation. That is true, yeah. And that is the mark of a champion.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Anyways, thank you, everybody, for listening to our review of Morbius. Do you think Morbius will become the, when you buy like a spindle of writable DVDs at the supermarket, do you think it'll become the DVD that's on the top like Casino Royale used to be? Really? Yeah. I didn't know they used to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Which is also a real kick in the balls. Imagine if you were Daniel Craig. Yeah, yeah. And you turned around like negative press opinion about – Of Bond and also yourself. And all that sort of stuff. You've resurrected the franchise. Yeah, you've resurrected the franchise and then you went to the supermarket.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Rachel Weisz is like, can you go down to the supermarket and get some stuff? Some stuff that I, Rachel Weisz... No, I'm rich. Do I have to do this? Yes, you do. Yeah, you do, actually. You have to do it and you have to wear the baby thing. And the paparazzi are going to take photos of you. They're going to go, pap, pap, pap. Exactly. And then you go down the miscellaneous section and you're like, oh, they're giving that movie
Starting point is 01:23:20 away for free on the top of a spindle of DVDs. I threw up my shoulder leaping from a crane. Yeah, good stuff. Anyway, people are going free on the top of a spindle of DVDs. I threw up my shoulder leaping from a crane. Yeah, good stuff. Anyway, people are going to take that top one off and just fling it to the side because they need to put some spreadsheets on a DVD. Yeah, they need to burn some DVDs. All right, do you know what it's time for then? It's time for what we're reading.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Yeah. What are we going to read? Do you love moving on to the next segment of the show? I absolutely do. Is that your favourite segment of the show? Yes, thank you. Are you going to even hit pause or are you going to do it again? No, Mason, I'm going to play the theme song and then we're going to check that the Morbius
Starting point is 01:23:48 review worked. Check the Morbius review. And then we're going to listen to a full episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, the latest one, and that'll get us jazzed. To get in the mood for podcasting. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I'm doing the theme. Westworld? Yes. I know we've really been jazzed for Morbius, and then it's just over. You know what I mean? Not in my heart. No, no.
Starting point is 01:24:14 It's over, and we don't have to do this joke anymore. Oh, yeah, that's a good point, actually. About it being monthbius. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we talked a big game earlier about it's going to be forever. And also, like, we were doing it ironically just so people know, right? Yeah. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Sure, man, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. God, just an exhausting experience and a movie that I would 100% not have seen if I didn't have to. And you know what the thing of it is is it's going to be on the side of buses for months after this. Oh, God. We're still going to be seeing it.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Even though it'll be out of cinemas in like a week and a half. Yeah. Straight to streaming. Anyways. Yeah. This is the segment of the show where we talk about things we've watched, read, or listened to. Yeah. Now, we're hopefully recording tomorrow an episode with Alexi and Cameron.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Oh, from the podcast Total Reboot. That's right. And numerous other things. Finding Drago, Finding Desperado. They have a new web series coming out. That's exciting. And numerous other things, Finding Drago, Finding Desperado. They've got a new series. A web series coming out. It's coming. That's exciting.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Like video and stuff. Yeah, it's video and stuff. Which is the real deal. What's the and stuff? It's just video, right? Yeah. Yeah. Video and like back of a cereal box.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Oh, okay. Like a puzzle or like a maze you've got to solve. Yeah, right. Like it's a mystery you're solving. Like you're solving the mystery. I've never solved anything. You know what I mean? I've got a lot of financial problems.
Starting point is 01:25:27 I know. A lot of interpersonal issues. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure. I don't know if you've met any of my friends, but we don't connect on any real level. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I don't even think we like each other outside of this podcast.
Starting point is 01:25:39 I mean, we've never spoken. Outside of the podcast, exactly. It's wild. A friend of yours, look, you can cut this out, but a friend of yours recently sent a video to you, like a little, you showed me a video he'd sent you, like a video message, and he was shirtless in it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:54 And I'm like, oh, that's a full blast of that dude. I haven't seen him in a long time. I remember him being a little bit weird, but, man, he is next level. You got 110%. I got 110%. It was great. Anyway. You had a flashback. You were like, I remember this being a little bit weird, but, man, he is next level. You got 110%. I got 110%. It was great. Anyway. You had a flashback.
Starting point is 01:26:07 You were like, I remember this. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I was full on. Anyway, so anyway, for the podcast, Total Reboot, we re-watched Dark City to talk about. Yes. Alex Proyas, late 90s classic, the precursor to The Matrix.
Starting point is 01:26:22 That's right. Not as good, probably. Absolutely not as good. But what else have you been doing? I've got the precursor to The Matrix. That's right. Not as good probably. Absolutely not as good. But what else have you been doing? I've got some other stuff to talk about. Well, I've started watching a TV series which I really enjoy called Minx. It's an American TV series. It's on Stan in Australia and I think it's on HBO Max in America.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Okay. And it is about a young – it's set in the 70s and it's about a young woman who wants to start a feminist magazine. Oh, I saw an ad for this. But of course, because of the era she lives in, which is not that similar to the era we're in currently, people are not on board with it. And the only person she can find who's interested in helping her achieve
Starting point is 01:27:02 that dream is a guy who runs like a dirty magazine. A horny dude. A horny dude. So it's the two main stars. It's Ophelia Loverbond is her name. Yes. Who people, if our audience and certainly me, she's been in a lot of British stuff,
Starting point is 01:27:19 but most prominently she is in the Guardians movies, she is the collector's servant. Oh, yeah. With like the pink red face. That is true, yeah. Who movies, she is the collector's servant. Oh, yeah. With like the pink red face. That is true, yeah. Who explodes when she grabs the proverbial gem. That's so true. But she plays the Joyce who's like the main protagonist
Starting point is 01:27:36 and Jake Johnson from New Girl and et cetera. Yes, he's the creep or whatever. And he's like, yeah, and it's a lot of fun. And the supporting cast is very good. She's also in Trying. You ever seen the TV show Trying? It's quite good. It's about adoption.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Quite funny. Timothy Spall is in it as well. Oh, Spallsy. Or Rafe Spall. Spallsy. Which Spall is in it? They're both Spallsy to me. Rafe Spall, there you go.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Anyway, it's a lot of fun. Yeah, great. Okay, I will check. I saw the ads for that. And that's coming out like week to week. So if you want a show to check out. I've been too busy looking at like wondering whether I'm going to click on Jack Reacher again.
Starting point is 01:28:07 I've been so busy with that. Did you finish it? I'm going to finish it. I don't think I will because I kind of forgot who's been shot. I don't know. Not Jack Reacher is the answer. No, absolutely not. Not yet at least.
Starting point is 01:28:17 The man is bulletproof. I was looking forward to watching The Bubble, the new Judd Apatow Netflix thing. I watched that today. And? I liked it. Because I've heard like nothing but just people do not like it. But that's good for you to say.
Starting point is 01:28:29 That's good to hear that it's actually not terrible. I mean, I liked it. But also when we went to start this segment, I was like, and I watched Minx. And what was the other thing that I watched today? And if you figured it out yet? It's the movie The Bubble. Oh, I'd forgotten you'd said that. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:28:45 And I had to recheck my notes. But again, it's an all-star cast. I mean, clearly it's a Judd Apatow movie, so I think a lot of people are like, well, I got, you know. I got a minute. It must have cost a lot. Yeah. I mean.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Maybe they're all mates. For people who don't know, we've mentioned it briefly. It's about, it's set around a fictional movie production that is happening during the pandemic. And it's like a Jurassic World slash Fast and Furious style franchise. Yes, Cliff Beasts. Yes. And it's got, you know, I think it's pretty fun.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Okay. Yeah. Well, that's, wow. Good stuff. I like the cast, like everybody involved. It's funny. Yep. Good.
Starting point is 01:29:22 But not too funny, not funnier than us. Because I would find that intimidating. It is funnier than us, yes. I can't watch it then. I'm going to be really upset by that. That's going to really take the wind out of my sails. Yeah. And it turns out that Apatow has another child who also does acting.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Yes, he's got two child. They've been in This Is 40 and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, the other one. Oh. Knocked up. They're both in that as well. There you go. All well. There you go. All right. There we go.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Great. I have been, I found just by pure happenstance, I think it was recommended to me through the world. The world? No, through the YouTube algorithm. It's a smaller YouTube channel with 8.9 thousand subscribers. Okay. It's called I Finished a Video Game.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Okay. And he does a video called Prince of Persia Series Retrospective and Exhaustive History and Review where he basically, not basically, he does extensively go through every single Prince of Persia game from the original, every handheld port, every like variation, you know, like the multiple reboots that they've had. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Also, it's three hours long. Wow. So I have been, and it's very good. I just haven't, I didn't sit down and watch it all at once because I didn't have three hours to watch it. Yeah, of course. But I've just been, like the last week, I've just been coming back in and watching each segment
Starting point is 01:30:37 because that's one of my favourite franchises. In particular, The Sands of Time is an amazing game. And they cover the old one, like the PC? Yeah, they do all of that. Yeah, right. And it's like a little bit of the history. It's not like exhaustive, but there's like everything you need to know about it is there and how they approached each game
Starting point is 01:30:53 and who were the creative teams involved and where it obviously went wrong and the hidden gems among the franchise. They talk a little bit about the movie as well. And, yeah, it's just a franchise that I wish they would revisit in a good way. And because Sands of Time a franchise that I wish they would revisit in a good way. And because Sands of Time, because that's when I kind of came back to video games. That was one of the first games where I'm like, oh shit, this is like, I haven't played something like this before.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Like I'd played a 3D platformer, but they're still a bit kind of janky. And it had the reverse time mechanic. Well that, and I just remember there was a moment where I got onto a ladder and I needed to be on the other side of the ladder. And I think they've talked about this before. in a tomb raider you got to climb off the ladder and walk around yeah right and then i just went and like i just pressed like around and he like switched like a normal human and i'm like oh and i just remember like oh my god like i'd never seen that before and it's so smooth and the wall running and it kind of falls off a cliff that
Starting point is 01:31:41 those particular games how ironic yeah But they're all pretty solid. Yeah, yeah. But that first one in particular, the combat's not great, but other than that, that first one in particular, just a really great story and just the fact that you're constantly ascending as well, like you're basically climbing your way up this tower the entire time. To get that goose that lays the golden eggs.
Starting point is 01:32:00 To get the goose that lays the egg. And they're also working on a HD remake at the moment, not like a remaster where they polish it up, which they already have done. They're remaking it. So I'm interested in, I don't know whether I like the aesthetic of what they're going for in the new one. But unless it's like this is an absolute bin fire,
Starting point is 01:32:18 I will be getting that new Prince of Persia. I've just always had a soft spot for these games. I even liked that weird in-between call they did when the movie came out, Forgotten Sands. Oh, terrific. Which is set between 1 and 2. Not the original 1 and 2, the reboot 1 and 2. Anyways.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Yeah, hell yeah. I love Prince of Persia, Mason, I think. Yeah. And I think the movie's okay from memory. Swarthy. It's a very swarthy movie. Very much so. Classic Middle Eastern actor, Jake Gyllenhaal. That's right. It turns. Couldn't do it these days. He's a very swarthy movie. Very much so. Classic Middle Eastern actor, Jake Gyllenhaal.
Starting point is 01:32:45 That's right. It turns. Couldn't do it these days. He's busy. He's busy. He's very busy doing a nightcrawler. He's just doing weird creep roles now. He's like, this is where I am, actually.
Starting point is 01:32:55 I'm a weird creep. This is my energy, actually. So, yeah. Cool. Lean into it. Are we moving on, Mason? We're moving on to letters. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:01 And there's a theme to go with letters, and it goes like this. How's it go? The classic one was letters. I remember this theme. Now theme to go with letters and it goes like this. How's it go? The classic one was letters. I remember this theme. Now that I hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like out loud. You know they're here right now.
Starting point is 01:33:15 We're going to do letters. Mason was pulling a silly face. You were pulling a silly face. You can never prove that. But listen, this is the signal of the show. I think the backup recorder will prove you made a silly face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Where if you do want to reach the show, you can hashtag weeklyplanetpod or send an email to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's right. Or give us a physical letter, which has happened one time. Happened one, probably never again. Yeah. But Mason. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:40 You're a man of the world. Is that true? Sure, why not? And maybe you've got a letter. I do have a letter. Maybe you've got a Gmail. Yeah, yeah? Sure, why not? And maybe you've got a letter. I do have a letter. Maybe you've got a Gmail. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe you've screenshotted a Gmail, which is what you do.
Starting point is 01:33:49 I've screenshotted two Gmails right here. What do you screenshot? As opposed to? Like just opening them because you forget which ones you've read. Yeah, and Gmail, sometimes it'll be like, no, actually, you want ads for umbrellas or something. And I'm like, but where's the thing that I, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Do you want ads for umbrellas? I really have all the umbre, but where's the thing that I, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want ads for umbrellas? I really have all the umbrellas I need. Wow. Yeah. Powerful stuff. Anyway, Mason, read your Gmail. All right. This one's from Brian.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Hello, Brian. It says, hi, James and Mason. Hello, Brian. How's your day? Hope you're having a great week. I'm fucking cooked, mate, honestly. Like, my kid hasn't been sleeping. Like, was this a genuine question?
Starting point is 01:34:22 No, I think he's just being polite, if I'm honest. Oh, okay. It says here, I'm just being polite, if I'm honest. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It says here, I'm just being polite, please don't answer. Don't even ask then. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:30 If you don't want an answer. He said here, actually, I'm only asking so I can tell you what I'm doing. So. And then he goes on to say, my exam period is approaching, so naturally I'm distracted by exploring old movies I haven't watched. Oh, I remember that, yeah. I recently watched Grindhouse from 2007, so the Robert Rodriguez Tarantino,
Starting point is 01:34:47 and I have fallen to the rabbit hole of Grindhouse films from the 70s. Oh, okay. There's a great series on YouTube called Missing Real. Do you guys have any films of that kind you recommend? Grindhouse. Or even like old films. Yeah. There's an Australian movie called The Man from Hong Kong.
Starting point is 01:35:01 What's that? It's like an Australian kung fu movie. Okay. What's that? It's like a, it's a Australian like kung fu movie. Okay. Yeah, it's. Went from that era. From that era, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:10 What I actually would recommend if you can find it, it's probably on some streaming service, there is a documentary called Not Quite Hollywood, which is about Australian filmmaking from that era. Oh, yeah, that's very good, isn't it? It is very good and weird and you go, man, Australia used to have a film industry. Yeah, but now it's been slowly gutted.
Starting point is 01:35:27 It's been gutted. And I blame Crocodile Dundee. You think so? Yeah, well, everyone expects. The character, the fictional character. Yeah, everyone expected like a $500 million movie after that and it's just not going to happen. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:35:36 Oh, I see what you're saying. And not without like putting in a bunch of money to a bunch of different stuff and building up the industry slowly. Do you know what I mean? But this is just not my area Do you know what I mean? But this is just not my area. You know what I mean? You can watch Not Quite Hollywood on Mubi, the free streaming service. I love the streaming service Mubi.
Starting point is 01:35:53 Mubi. No. Mubi. The thing I said, I reckon. Okay, great. Yeah, I mean, I know there's been like newer ones like obviously the Machete movies and Hover with a Shotgun. We talked about this recently.
Starting point is 01:36:03 But no, I don't really have any Grindhouse recommendations. That is O. Do you have any others other than that one that you said? Besides the man from Hong Kong. Yeah. No, but I'll think about it. What do you think about that? What do I think about that?
Starting point is 01:36:18 Yeah. I think you're absolutely entitled to your opinion and that's cool. While you're thinking about it, do you want me to read a tweet that we got? Yes. It's from hashtag, this is hashtag weeklyplanet you're thinking about it, do you want me to read a tweet that we got? Yes. It's from hashtag, this is hashtag weeklyplanetpod, and this is from, who's it from? Let me check.
Starting point is 01:36:34 This is from Jack, who says, Fantastic Beasts 3 is coming out after more, he wrote Mobius. What about the last Harry Potter episode? I guess after Fantastic Beasts 3 movie. Yeah, no, we do have to do that. Yeah, we'll get to that, yeah. But no, guess, after Fantastic Beasts 3 movie. Yeah, no, we do have to do that. Yeah, we'll get to that, yeah. But no, next week is Fantastic Beasts 3, a movie that I could have gone to the premiere of and I didn't. Just didn't feel like it?
Starting point is 01:36:54 No. Pretty good. Because I'm pretty burnt out on all that, if I'm honest. Oh, no. On any number of reasons. But no, we will see it for this show and we will talk about it next week. By all accounts, it's better than the last one, which, God, you'd hope so. You're looking forward to seeing that this week, Mason.
Starting point is 01:37:10 How many is left? Is this the third one? It's the third and maybe the last one. I've no idea. Technically a five. I like Jude Law as Dumbledore. Sure. That's good.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Yeah. Have you got another tweet, Mason? Or an email? Give me one second. I'm just going to look at a thing. Why don't you look at a thing in your own time? You're on the clock, mate. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:37:29 You use the toilet and you check your tweets on company time and your notes and so forth. Oh, that's actually a great point. Isn't it, though? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I've got one more email here, James. Have you got one more email for us? This is from Joel.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Hello, Joel. Subject line, apartment fire. Okay. Hey, James and Mason, I'm writing this email a few hours after watching my apartment building burn and everything I own be destroyed. Oh, my God. I was able to get out along with my cat but lost everything else. As I was waiting for my sister to come pick me up, I began listening to old episodes of the podcast as a way to calm down. I find the back and forth between you two extremely calming and just wanted to say thanks that in this time where everything seems lost, I still have my favorite podcast to fall back on.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Can I be the official Hoosier of the podcast? I don't know how to tell him this, but this podcast, all the episodes were lost in the fire. Oh, no. Yes, this is the last one and it's literally burning away. And it's the worst one too. It's the morbidest one. I'm sorry to hear that.
Starting point is 01:38:19 That's awful. I mean, obviously, thank God you and your cat are okay. That's the most important thing, obviously. Like, thank God you guys got out okay. But no, that's just losing all your stuff. I mean, aside from everything that you love that's in there, what a fucking hassle. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:38:34 I'm going to replace everything and find a new place. And oh, God, terrible. Maybe you could, you know. Give us a five-star review. Absolutely. Is that what you were going to say? That would certainly help you. I was going to say.
Starting point is 01:38:47 No, do you have a real suggestion? No, I'm just going to say we hope you're back on your feet soon and maybe, you know, what you could do is you could just change your whole image. You could just be like, you know, I'm a grindhouse guy now. I'm going to dress in like 70s. I mean, is that what you want to commit to? Yes. Yeah, I guess you're right.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Yeah, yeah. Yep. You're a Grindhouse guy now. That's you. That's right. We've revamped your entire personality. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:11 You're all about disco now. Oh, that's terrible. But again, thank goodness he's okay. Yeah, that's the main thing you got so you can start afresh. That's right. And this is from Ben. It's just random thought, but I feel like it's overlooked that Morbius was in the PS2, PSP, Wii, and DS version of the tie-in game for Spider-Man 3 in 2007.
Starting point is 01:39:31 That's how I was introduced to the character, plus whoever Shriek is. I know Shriek. Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. That big green guy. Yeah, something like that. He's an all-star, that guy. I was a big Spider-Man 2 fan of the video game
Starting point is 01:39:45 obviously but I never played 3 because the reviews weren't great and it was in that era where I didn't have a PS3 and it was on PS2
Starting point is 01:39:53 but the PS2 version isn't as good and the reviews weren't great all around and whatever so I never played that game but yeah they would do a thing
Starting point is 01:39:59 where like they'd throw in a bunch of villains that you wouldn't see in the actual movies like there's shockers and a bunch of stuff and you'd get a like that'd throw in a bunch of villains that you wouldn't see in the actual movies. Like there's shockers in a bunch of stuff. And you'd get a like, that often get like a, you'd either get classic look. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Or you'd be like, oh, this is a new version for this reality. Exactly. Like how have they given us a new artistic kind of vibe? Let me just bring that up. Morbius Spider-Man 3 game. Here we go. How's he looking? But that's what I like about the Spider-Man PS4 game. It's like they were
Starting point is 01:40:26 like, okay, here's some of the, many of the classic villains, but how are they going to look in this universe? Yeah. Pretty cool. There you go. Yeah, they went pretty classic with him. Is that chest hair or a gunshot? I think it's a gun. I think it's blood. Wow. That's great stuff. Really cool. Well, yeah, cool.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Alright, Morbius. That's, I mean, you probably should just keep those memories and those are all the memories you need of that character
Starting point is 01:40:47 memories wow maybe Morbius maybe Monthbius can live on in your heart no I'm cancelling
Starting point is 01:40:53 Monthbius officially is this a veto yes is this a veto on this long running risk
Starting point is 01:40:58 yes alright so you got how many do you have left then I can't remember one or none but it was worth
Starting point is 01:41:02 it I think it's one alright okay folks Monthbius is over think it's one. All right. Okay, folks, Monthbius is over forever. It's never coming back. I can't bring it back? No, I think we'd have to do
Starting point is 01:41:12 like a fresh, we'd have to fresh take on it. Fresh take, okay. Wow. Well, if there's one thing that Morbius cannot do is a fresh take. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:41:19 That's done. Okay, what's next? What's the end of the show? Oh, I've got one more. Okay, right. It says, Jack Doe says, hashtag weekly planet pod. You don't need to watch Dumb and Dumber. I mentioned last week that I've never seen it.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't need to watch Dumb and Dumber because that's the show. That's your show every week. Hashtag got him. Oh. Come on, mate. Come on, mate. That's actually a bit rude.
Starting point is 01:41:37 I know you're making a joke, but that hurt, actually. I mean, we know we're not super intelligent by any stretch. In any real world scenario, we fall apart. That's true. Like emotionally, physically, all of those things. Being slapped. Being slapped, yeah. But we can do this, can't we?
Starting point is 01:41:50 Yes. It's the one thing we can sort of do. I think so, sort of, yeah. Yeah. The more that you bring it up, the less I'm confident I am. I recommended that Prince of Persia video. Not everybody could do that. That's true.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Who could do that? Some people don't. They can't speak. That's right. They have no capacity for speech. Exactly. There you go. Anyways no capacity for speech. Exactly. There you go. Anyways, Mason, how are you going to wrap the show up this time?
Starting point is 01:42:10 How's it going to go to this one, everybody? Take a listen. Oh, my God. Here we go. Yeah. Bit of Dutch courage. There we go. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:42:18 It's a Sprite. It's a Sprite. It's a Sprite. I'm drinking a Sprite. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast. We very much appreciate it. It was April Fool's this week. Did anything happen?
Starting point is 01:42:27 I saw like a fake Sprite flavor. Oh, was it poop? Yeah. Poop and farts? Yeah, it was just like we put a big shit in a can. Do you want it? April Fool, actually. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:36 They got us. Yeah, no. No, I think a lot of brands have realized that if they do that, they'll get canceled and demoted. Yeah, they have to issue an apology because it's like a weird, offensive thing. Anyway, sorry. Folks, thanks so much for listening.
Starting point is 01:42:51 We do very much appreciate it. We do. Thank you for liking the podcast and subscribing on your podcast, Catcher of Choice, and telling your friends about it or leaving a five-star review on your podcast, Catcher of Choice. James, you got any there? You know, I've got a couple here for you, Mason, right here. Nice.
Starting point is 01:43:05 This is from Alexander Clearwater who says, grab that jam. Nice. Five stars, by the way. You can just do this in-app. It's amazing. It took me a long time to realise that these guys were not telling me to get a jar of spread for toast. Also, we'll be petitioning to be the official half-break wielding
Starting point is 01:43:22 wizard hunter of the podcast, five big stars. You got that. That's yours now, absolutely. This is from Jedi4Jesus13 who says, gross. You made me download Apple Podcasts to review you. I'm a podcast guy, but just for you I downloaded this app on my phone. So in return, where's my spaghetti? That's up to you, actually.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Yeah, we can't. We don't know where the spaghetti is. I mean, send your address if you want. Oh, just an envelope full of spaghetti? Yeah. Postpack full of spaghetti? We'll send something your way. Put your address in the review. Imagine if you got a notification from customs and they're like, you're going to come in and collect
Starting point is 01:44:01 this and you're like, oh, did I order something exciting? All right. And they're like, you're going to come in, you've got to talk to some people, whatever, and then you have to negotiate it all out. And they hand you this polythene bag or whatever, and you zip it open. You're like, oh, just a weird handful of spaghetti. That's interesting. Would you dig through it? Because you're like, oh, there's something in there.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Maybe there's a beautiful ring in there or something. Or some cocaine, I don't know. Just loose cocaine and with the spaghetti? Yeah, absolutely. No, probably not. No, no, no, no, I don't know. Just loose cocaine and with the spaghetti? Yeah, absolutely. No, probably no, no, no, no, no. Very good. What's next? Folks, if you want to get into contact with the show, you can go to
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Starting point is 01:45:58 and early videos and all kinds of stuff. Having a great time. It's true, Mason. It is very true. Thank you to the Brute and the Basilisk and Rackham for all our musical themes. We're going to do a commentary next week for Big Sandwich. We haven't decided on anything yet. So what do you want us to do?
Starting point is 01:46:13 Let us know. Let us know probably on the Twitters. That's where we'll see it probably on the Twitters. That's right. That's right. If you want a t-shirt, a Weekly Planet t-shirt, go to tpublic.com, search for the Weekly Planet. That's right.
Starting point is 01:46:24 Or go to Redbubble and search for Raw Bat, Bat and Bat. Yeah. Or Monthbius. Maybe there's a Monthbius-based t-shirt somewhere out there. I mean, that's a relic now, isn't it? Yeah, it's a real. Yeah. Real.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Real collector's item. I agree. Real collector's item from an infinitely printable on-demand t-shirt service. That's absolutely right. Next week, yes. Harry Potter something. Harry Potter something. I would never say it if we didn't have to say it.
Starting point is 01:46:52 No, I wouldn't. And I'm still like, do I even want to say it now? We could watch Sonic. Yeah, we could watch Sonic, I guess. I didn't get a chance to say it this week. But, yeah, there you go. All right. Thanks, everybody.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Oh, we could do Snake Eyes. Did we not do it this episode? No, no. I even did have that reminder as well. Yeah, wow. God, it flies by, doesn't it? Doesn't it, though? Like a Morbius.
Starting point is 01:47:13 That's right. Like a big chip packet man floating away on the New York skyline or wherever he lives. James, we did the veto. No, that's not a Morbius joke. I can talk about Morbius. I guess you can. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, yeah,bious. I guess you can. That's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just no longer a recognisable holiday. That's true. Yeah, I understand. Thanks, everybody. You're a real month-bious Grinch, you know. What did you say to me just now? You're a month-bious Grinch.
Starting point is 01:47:34 What did you say to me right now? I said you're a month-bious Grinch. Am I going house to house and tearing up month-bious calendars and T-shirts? You there, boy. What day is it? Why, it's month-bious, which is a month, not a day. I'll kill you! There he is.
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