The Weekly Planet - 447 Nope, Prey, Sandman & Pinocchio

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

This week it's a big catch up bonanza! Because Claire forced us to take a month off we missed some things worth talking about including Nope, Prey and The Sandman. Plus there's news of more Blade Run...ner, more Constantine and slightly less Star Wars. Thanks for listening!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.04:50 Keanu Reeves Constantine Sequel12:55 Marvel Movie Delays (But Don't Dismays)15:36 Star Wars: Rogue Squadron Cancelled18:20 Karate Kid Sequel Movie20:29 Blade Runner 2099 Sequel Series28:29 Nope Review (spoilers 35:40 to 46:08)46:08 Prey Spoiler Review01:00:27 DC's Sandman Spoiler Review01:16:43 Pinocchio Spoiler Review01:24:54 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:33:48 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:15 there at the far side of this table, is my co-host Nick Mason. Ahoy there. Ahoy! Yeah. It's great to be here. It's good to be nautical themed, isn't it? Yeah. Is that what we're going with this week?
Starting point is 00:01:25 Yeah, Mason, that's the thing. We're on a boat. Oh, you're already tired of the premise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're already tired of the premise you invented. Oh, look, it's pirates or whatever. Oh, no, we're going to steer this content ship into an iceberg. That's the new DC thing that happened, you know, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Pirates generally steer their ship into icebergs. No, no, we're avoiding the pirates. So there's pirates. Are we also pirates? No, no, we're avoiding the pirates. So there's pirates. Are we also pirates? No, no, we're regular. We're a content ship. We're a content ship. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Let me map this out. We're a content ship and we're carrying content and spices to the new world perhaps. Okay, great. No, from the new world because the new world is Hollywood. Okay, yeah, yeah. We're taking it back to the masses. We're taking it back to the masses, the grubby masses back in the mainland.
Starting point is 00:02:05 But we have to avoid content pirates? Yep, sure. Oh, like pirates. Yeah, sure. But surely we could just give them the content and we would both have the content. No, there's a finite amount of content. It's in this scenario because I guess it's a metaphor. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Or it's a real thing that we're pretending we're doing. Yeah, okay, great. It's a physical thing that we want to avoid giving other people. Now, would you suggest perhaps that despite this very elaborate setup, this podcast will be exactly the same as all our other podcasts? It remains to be seen. I certainly hope that it's smooth sailing all around, Mason. Very nice, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:39 But it remains to be seen. Okay. Now, Mason, it's a big week for content, obviously. Give me a gold. Oh, no. I've got a cutlass. So you're a pirate too? me a gold. Oh, no. I've got a cutlass. So you're a pirate too? And a pistol.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Oh, wow. And a peg leg and a parrot and a big hat. It's too many. A lot of jewellery. You've got too many pirate things. I've got like those raccoon eyes. You've got to pick two. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:58 It's like the peg leg and the parrot and maybe a weapon, actually. Okay, I'm going to get rid of the peg leg because I think I want it to be easier to like. You want regular leg. I want regular leg to, you know, climb up the side of a ship perhaps. Yeah, I'm going to get rid of the peg leg because I think I want it to be easier to like. You want regular leg. I want regular leg to climb up the side of a ship perhaps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I keep the cutlass because that's cool. It is cool. You don't have to reload it.
Starting point is 00:03:12 You can just stab. That's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've got a cornetto for after. Yeah, after you stab me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to eat the cornetto. Great.
Starting point is 00:03:23 All right, cool. Mason, this is the news of the week. I'm excited. That we're going to be getting to. Rob Collings, who edits this, he always puts in the time codes. God bless him, Mason. God bless him. Warner Brothers are making a sequel to a surprising movie sequel.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Very surprising. We'll talk about that. Delays but not dismays. Another Star Wars movie is in the bin, seemingly. No, no, no, no, no, James. It's just being delayed for an indeterminate amount of time. Okay, sure. There's a Karate Kid movie.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Another one. There's already been four. Sure, yeah. There's been five. There'll be a sixth Karate Kid movie. There's been five. There's been three original Karate Kid. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Then Hilary Swank Karate Kid. Was the next Karate Kid. Which is set in the same Karate Kid-iverse. And then there was the Jaden Smith Karate Kid. Oh, I forgot about that one. That is a reboot. Jackie Chan is also in that. Jackie Chan, yeah. That's true. So it's a different universe. Do you think maybe they're the same Karate Kidiverse. And then there was the Jaden Smith Karate Kid. Oh, I forgot about that one. That is a reboot. Jackie Chan is also in that. Jackie Chan, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So it's a different universe. Do you think maybe they're the same universe? No, it couldn't be, unless there's two Mr. Miyagis who lost their wife. You think they're not two? Statistically speaking, that's got to be true. There could be a second Miyagi. We're putting a call out, folks.
Starting point is 00:04:17 If you're a Mr. Miyagi and your wife died, email in. And then Blade Runner is getting another sequel for some reason. But we're also using this opportunity, Mason, on the Good Ship content to go back and look at some things that we haven't quite talked about yet. Probably do like five to ten minutes on each depending, I guess. Yeah, true. We're going to look at the movies Nope.
Starting point is 00:04:35 We're going to look at the movie Prey. We're going to look at the TV show The Sandman. Oh, yes. And then we're going to talk about Pinocchio. Yep. We left that last because like our enthusiasm will run out, but I feel like the anger that we have will. Yeah, I watched Pinocchio and then I came into this room and I said,
Starting point is 00:04:52 so we're talking about Pinocchio this week, and you went, what? I'm like, you said we're going to watch Pinocchio, so I watched Pinocchio. I didn't watch all of Pinocchio. Wow, I watched all of Pinocchio. I even scrolled to the end to see if there was a post-credits sequence in Pinocchio for some reason. Like a second wooden boy comes out.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yes. I'm evil Pinocchio. Oh, yep. I'm girl Pinocchio. I was made of the leftover bits of wood. Hey, I'm the rotten bits of wood. Look at me. Yeah, we'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I'm Pinocchio. Pinocchio. Hey. Very good, Mason. This is my deadline. I'm full of sap. I'm Pinocchio. Pinocchio. Hey. Very good, Mason. This is my deadline. I'm full of sap. I'm secreting sap from all my places. Why can't you eat sap?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Me personally? Yeah, anybody. I think there's some sap you can eat, like a maple syrup, for example. Sure, yeah. With a processing. Well, I'm not made of maple syrup. I'm all made of yuck sap. The yuck sap.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Okay, great. Good. I've got old mosquitoes stuck in me. Warner Brothers, this is my deadline, have done something of late this last week, which is not canceling. No, no. They're not canceling something. Did you also see the rumors this week that David Victor Zaslav, whatever his name is,
Starting point is 00:05:58 he's just cutting a bunch of stuff so he could sell the company on again. Makes sense. So he's trying to make it like lean and as lean and like valuable as possible and then getting rid of it. Great. That's another bit of a – Hey, just so you know, this is lean and mean and it's got no debts, but also we're not making anything.
Starting point is 00:06:16 We've cancelled everything. So if you want – is he turning this into Atari, a company that isn't anything but it's just the thing you can put on T-shirts sometimes? Maybe. Because I don't think people want to wear just a t-shirt that says Warner Brothers on it. I don't think it's got the cachet of Atari and the Space Invaders.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I saw an interesting thread this week, and I don't have it in front of me, where the person talks about how, actually it was in relation to an article, I can't remember. Anyway, I read something on the internet, Mason. Love it. Where they're basically going back to an old school method of distribution where their properties, they're giving away rights and distributions to other companies to use, which is like the older model that companies would do. And Disney even used to do it more where they would give their properties over to like Netflix, for example. So, you know, that's how we got the Marvel Netflix shows and
Starting point is 00:07:04 all of that. But then Bob Iger realized that basically you're giving everybody all your best IP. Yeah. And allowing them to grow a platform. That's right. So I think the article likened it to you giving your enemy like the nuclear weapons, essentially. Sure.
Starting point is 00:07:19 To destroy you. So basically related to what's happening at Warner Brothers, whether that's what they're doing. Anyways, aside from all that, Warner Brothers are moving forward, it seems, with a Constantine sequel to the 2005 Keanu Reeves movie. Or should we say Constantine? I say no. I'm saying this version is called Constantine.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Because he's American. Yes. He's a goddamn yank. That's right. Isn't this fascinating? Yeah. It is. We recently talked about this on Caravan of Garbage. He's a goddamn yank. That's right. Yeah. Isn't this fascinating? Yeah. It is. We recently talked about this on Caravan of Garbage.
Starting point is 00:07:48 It's true, it is. It's pretty good. I agree, yeah. And also, it's Keanu Reeves who is big and hot and happening right now. That's right, yes. He was recently in League of Super Pets. I think he was Batman or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:59 That's great. Or maybe Batman's Car. That's a different show about Batman's Car. All right. Who plays Batman's Car in that? I don't know. Maybe Will Arnett? Batman.
Starting point is 00:08:08 No, you're thinking of Knight Rider. Yeah, yeah. Batman's Car voice. The last recordings of Gilbert Gottfried. My goodness. I'll find out later. Anyways, it's somebody. It's somebody famous.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I can't remember who it is. Anyways, Francis Lawrence is again returning to direct. In between then and now, I think he did Iron Legend. He also did all the Hunger Games movies. Yeah, and Mr. Keanu Reeves is returning. That's right. And Akiva Goldsman, who, of course, is known for Weed Road Production. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:37 A studio which we stumble on every now and then. Which sometimes produces a hidden gem, such as The Losers, but other times produces a hidden... Phlegm. A hidden phlegm. Very good. Such as Jonah Hex. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:08:49 J.J. Abrams is also producing along with Hannah Minghella. So it seems as if that this is actually happening for now at least. Did it say something along the lines that Keanu Reeves is co-writing that? I didn't say that, but I'd be open for that. Well, he's recently been doing Berserker and Berserker-related content, so that would not surprise me. And again, you know, this perhaps leans into
Starting point is 00:09:11 one of DC or one of other strategies of let this not be a connected universe. But it could also be connected. It could also be connected to the wider DC EU, or it could be, you know, we can have a Constantine in the Sandman universe. We can have a Constantine in what remains of the CW Arrowverse.
Starting point is 00:09:32 We can have a Constantine in this series because it was good. Do you think we will have a – do you think they'll bring back Rachel Weisz and she'll reveal she has a second identical sibling? Oh, my God. Who also gets into a bit of trouble. A third twin? A third twin. John, twin? A third twin. John, it's my third twin.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Okay. I'm not going to question that. This one dead? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's a murder mystery again, John. She's lost in a house of mirrors. You know how tricky those are to get out of.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Is it magical? No, it's regular. But, you know, you get turned around. It's true, you do, yeah. I have a question for you, though, Mason. Go on you know, you get turned around. It's true, you do, yeah. I have a question for you though, Mason. Go on. It's more of a statement. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:10:10 How are you? Are you all right? No, that is a question. No, no, I'm not really asking. It's like when you see someone and you're like, hey, how are you going? I'm not really interested. Are you asking me so you can say how you are? Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Because I refuse to answer. No, this is actually a question. If there was no Constantine movie with Keanu Reeves and it wasn't something that we recognised, how do you think this would be received? By the general public? Yeah. Do you mean, is the general public aware of other Constantine properties?
Starting point is 00:10:37 Like do they know the TV version? Yeah, sure. I mean, there would have been a CW and whatever, I guess. I don't know. Now I reckon people would be like, I like the idea because it's Keanu. Yes. I also agree. But I think there'd would be like, I like the idea because it's Keanu. Yes. I also agree. But I think there'd still be some pushback.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Oh, yeah, definitely. We've talked about this before and, like, and there's been, I'm not going to get into it, but there's been a lot of discourse about how a character might change being adapted for the screen this week. Just a big sook, you know what I mean, going on and whatever. Hey, since we're talking about Warner Brothers in D.C., I've got one bit of news. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:11:05 That's right. This is from The Hollywood Reporter. But this is a small element in a much larger article, but people can track this down. Warner Brothers Discovery has bigger problems than its DC search. And it's about, you know, the studios hunting for their own Kevin Feige. Yeah. They're heavily indebted, et cetera, et cetera, and it's all about.
Starting point is 00:11:23 That's just regular company stuff. Well, exactly. yeah, yeah. But my favorite part of this article, this is something I learned this week. I don't know if you know this, but it's possible that there are two people, a Mr. DeLuca and a Pam Abdee, who are currently the acting heads of the division, the DC superhero division. Okay. They might end up running the DCEU sort of by default.
Starting point is 00:11:45 They might just become the Kevin Feige's because they're just there and it's easier than hiring some new person. No, that makes sense. But here's the thing. I'm hiring internally. Yeah, but here's the thing. DeLuca, I don't have a first name here. DeLuca was a comic book collector as a kid and years ago at New Line
Starting point is 00:11:59 he made Blade and even had an Iron Man movie in development. A source says Bob Shea, the new line chief at the time, led the option for Iron Man Laps, arguing that it didn't make sense because Iron Man was too heavy to fly. Yeah, like a plane. Yeah, like a plane. Planes are too heavy to fly. Like a hummingbird or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:12:16 A bumblebee. It doesn't make sense that it flies if you don't know anything about physics. I don't think it's true, but a bee. Yeah, it's not true. That's the rumor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's interesting. I didn't know anything about physics? I don't think it's true, but a B. Yeah, it's not true. That's the rumor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's interesting. I didn't know Iron Man was optioned at New Line.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah, no. I think we talked about it when we did the Caravan of Garbages. That was like early to mid-2000s-ish. Yeah, yeah. But I guess they got it in a package with Blade, but I think that's fascinating that there's got to be somebody over at New Line. They're probably retired now. It's absolutely kicking themselves that they went.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I don't think New Line could have done it well. No, they wouldn't have done it well. They wouldn't have done the version that we got. They would have done it, I don't know, I can't even think of it. He would have had the roller skates. He would have had the rocket roller skates. I don't care with that. Because they're like, he can't fly, he will roller skate.
Starting point is 00:12:58 He'll have a rocket pack and roller skates. Yeah, I love it. That's very interesting. Anyway, well, it sounds like if they go with these people, then they've clearly got some insight into what works, I guess. Yeah, I love it. That's very interesting. Anyway, well, it sounds like if they go with these people then they've clearly got some insight into what works, I guess. Yeah. So there you go. That was one bit of news!
Starting point is 00:13:11 Now, did you have a one bit of news last week? Yeah. I feel it's hotly contested by me right now. Oh, wow. Yeah. For those who don't know, if he doesn't bring in one bit of news, if he doesn't do it three times then I get another veto. That's true.
Starting point is 00:13:25 This is too complicated. Isn't it? Oh, yeah. Which means I can stop. You can veto any part of – you can veto any upcoming fun you choose. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. You can drag this podcast down into misery if you so choose.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I get three at the start of every year and I use them very quickly. And now I don't have anything. That's why the boat thing happened up top. You started the boat thing. Yeah, but I couldn't stop it, could I? That's true. Delays but not dismays, Mason. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You're going to hate this. There was an untitled Marvel film set to release on February 16th, 2020. But it's been- 2020? 2024, Mason. Okay. Get with it. And that's been shipped to September of 2024.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Whoa. Yeah. What do you think of that? Whoa. What do you think it is? Dunno. Yeah. Could be nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I mean, it could be something. It could be something. Well, it could be something they're trialling in one of these holiday specials or, you know, and if whatever character it is tests well, they put it on the slate for them. That's a good point. It might be a Bloodstone. It might be an Adam Warlock or something like that.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Marvel can do a movie in two years. Yeah. You know, pretty competently. Also, oh, you're not going to like this, Mason. Kraven the Hunter was set for January of next year. Okay. But it's been moved to October of next year. That's such a long time.
Starting point is 00:14:42 A year, Mason. Knocking out Madam Web. Maybe they want another run at Morbius. Second to Morbius. Madam Web then moves from that October date to February of 2024. Which was also when that Marvel movie was going to come out, which now isn't.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Time is a flat circle, etc. That's right. Let me ask you a question. It's more of a statement. First of all, how are you doing? I'm great, by the way. I knew it. But do you think this bodes well for Craven? Does this mean anything?
Starting point is 00:15:15 No, I don't think it does. No, no, no. You don't think it does? I don't think so. It's filming now though, right? I think Craven's done. I think Matt and Webb might still be filming, but that would be close to finishing if it's not.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I think maybe they want to ease it into Oscar season, you know, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Maybe, Mason. Maybe they want to jump off the bullet train, you know, home media release into, you know, Oscar season. See that yet? No. No, me neither.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Oh, well. It'll always come to streaming. Yeah. So that's great. Hey, Mason, you know how we're stuck in a never-ending time loop? Yeah, sure. So we've got a never-ending stream of dipshits crying about woke culture. Wait, so just before you go into that, the ship we're on is in a time loop.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah, sure. It's in a portal. It's like the Bermuda Triangle. It's a loop. It's like a loop-de-loop. Nice. Terrific. Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:16:04 So, yeah, people crying about everything's too woke or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I think we got it. At some point, you and I personally I think are at a breaking point of we don't want to talk about this sort of stuff anymore. I think our position is clear on this sort of stuff. We hate it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:18 We love it. We don't want to. Let's clarify. We'll talk about this. We'll clarify. We'll never talk about it again. So that's the first thing. A big company buys another big company.
Starting point is 00:16:27 That's always another bit of news. And a Star Wars movie is quietly killed. And this week, Mason, Patty Jenkins' Rogue Squadron movie has been removed from its December 2023 release date. That couldn't have happened regardless. That hasn't started or been cast or anything. We wouldn't be hearing about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So as of this moment, Kevin Feige might be producing one. Taika Waititi is apparently still doing one. They're off the back of Thor, Last Thor. I don't know about that. Rian Johnson is still working on his trilogy, yes. Which maybe I'm hoping this is true. Maybe they're waiting to get a bit of distance from The Last Jedi so they can bring him back to do it because I would love him to do.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. We've talked about this. So he apparently is, this is a previous rumour, they couldn't agree on a script. And also I'd imagine after Top Gun Maverick came out. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You can't do that. Like it's just that's not what this will be.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You can't give us what what is what apparently at the time was going to be the ultimate kind of dog fighting the best fighter pilot best fighter pilot movie of all time when we've just gotten the best fighter pilot movie of all time yeah and also much of that was real and yeah how are you what are you gonna what are you gonna put some engines in a x-wing and? Yeah, maybe. Drop it out of a plane? I mean, potentially, sure. But I think also even if they did that, that added sense of realism that Top Gun has because it's the real world and whatever,
Starting point is 00:17:55 you won't get that sense because it's Star Wars. Actually, I am going to talk about Andor a bit later. I saw a few of the episodes early, which maybe I'll talk about in what we're reading. Anyways, do we want to talk about our position in this thing so we can stop talking about it for the rest of our lives or whatever? Do you have a piece of news attached to that? No, it's just those are the three things that always happen.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Oh, okay, all right. Now we'll do it next time. Yeah, sure. Next week then. Yeah, next week. Or even by the end of this episode. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I mean, didn't they clearly just capitalising on old IP? Yes. And, like, that's part of it. And then people get upset. In this week, for example, Italians. Italians. Yeah, I do want to talk about that. But it's also, like, why do you care what colour the little mermaid is?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Why would that upset you? Because it's actually science, James. Yes, I know. Because all the – something about something – you can't have black people underwater or whatever. Because all fish are stark white, as you know. Every single fish in the universe is all white. We've been fishing for them on this ship.
Starting point is 00:18:54 That's very true. And they're all white fish. They're all white. Yeah, exactly. Isn't that video of the blue lobster the other day? Yeah. What colour do you think they turn when you cook them? Blue, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:19:02 Same colour? Maybe. You know, I'll tell you what, though, Mason. I'm not interested in a blue lobster you could paint a lobster like that's not interesting to me which is with the house paint yeah you just dip it in a bucket it's fine it's all fine but like you know yeah uh mason sony apparently are moving ahead with a karate kid sequel movie whoa 2024 nothing else is known apparently it's going to be more in line with like original Karate Kid, which is probably a good idea because I don't know if you've been watching that show, but it's certainly stepped up a notch in terms of how many people
Starting point is 00:19:32 are kicking each other. Okay, so you think this will be a- 200 people kicking each other every episode now. The phrasing of the announcement, I don't know if you have it there, but the piece of news suggested it was the it was the new continuation of the karate kid movies or something like that oh here it is a new this is from discussing film a new karate kid film described as the return of the original karate kid franchise will release on june 7 2024 so that would suggest that seems to suggest that cobra kai is not in
Starting point is 00:20:01 continuity no i think it is i think like cobra k, or at least it started as what if the bad guy, you know, what's his story? Yeah, right, right. But I guess his new one would be more let's just do the Karate Kid again. Yeah, so does Daniel. Even though Cobra Kai also does the Karate Kid again. So does Daniel in the Cobra Kai series, does he have his own Karate Kid? Yeah, he's got his own dojo.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah, he's got. Does he have a Karate Kid? He's got a couple of Karate Kids. Do you think any of the, because I haven't watched it. Yeah. Well, some of it. But would you suggest that any of the karate kids on this show have the star power to be the lead in a new karate kid movie?
Starting point is 00:20:34 Yeah, potentially. One of the people in the karate kid is the new Blue Beetle. Oh. So, you know. But I think maybe, I don't know. I think it'll be, I think they're going to make it standalone, whatever that looks like. Even though it's a very popular show, they're going to make it standalone, whatever that looks like. Even though it's a very popular show, it's Sony,
Starting point is 00:20:47 so they're going to make the broadest thing imaginable to get people in. Maybe they'll get Tom Holland as the karate kid. Whoa. Don't you think he'd be a good karate kid? Yeah, and they do seem to be – Because he was a good everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's great.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Let's fan cast him for everything. Yeah. I mean we've sort of reached that point where like back in the 30s where movie stars were sort of they got paid like a weekly wage and then they were just in every movie that their studio put out. It seems like that's happening now. Like Netflix have Henry Cavill and et cetera and Sony have just got Tom Holland for it.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah, they've just got Tom Holland. They got him. So there you go. Anyway, more Karate Kid. THR reporting, Mason. This is the last bit of news. And this speaks to my theory that there's always somebody with a lot of money who wants more Blade Runner.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah. Because they never do well. It's mysterious. Do you think it's the same financial backer that keeps the fast food franchise Red Rooster running? I think it absolutely is. I think it's probably the same. I think this goes all the way to the top of Red Rooster.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The roof. It's whoever. Where they keep the chicken. They keep the spare chicken in the un-air-conditioned roof cavities. I think it's probably the same of Tron. Somebody's love of Tron. I don't know if it's the same guy, but it's a guy who, I don't know. For people who don't know, James, and this is the most important part
Starting point is 00:22:07 of this news, Red Rooster is a franchise fast food restaurant. It's our favourite franchise, Mason. And nobody goes there, but it's been around for 50 years. Yeah, but there's always four cars in the drive-through. Yeah, but again, nobody eats there. It's still around. It's owned by like the Meyer Group. So it's some sort of tax write-off situation.
Starting point is 00:22:30 There seems to be one every couple of suburbs. I don't know. And you love going there, but you don't even like the food really. They changed the chicken, Mason. Yeah, they did. They changed it on me. And I know that because one of the employees there recognized us and he messaged me privately and then I said,
Starting point is 00:22:45 hey, while I got you here, I need to know what they've done. And it's true. You tried to gaslight me. You were like, it's the same. But I'm like, it's not the same. Anyway, it is changed. Anyway, I should get that chicken out of the roof cavity. Yeah, because yeah, that's the heritage chicken. That's the archival chicken chance. But anyway, the deranged billionaire that keeps Red Rooster running also wants to keep the Blade Runner IP moving, despite the fact that the original was not a financial success. I mean, I think it was eventually. It obviously did very well, Blu-ray.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Probably Laserdisc, it did super well. Because a nerd would have had a Laserdisc and a nerd would have bought. Yeah, each Laserdisc would have been $10,000. And then Blade Runner 2049, again, did fine. No. Let me look up the numbers. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:33 But nevertheless, they are moving forward with Blade Runner 2099. There's also an anime series. Yeah. There was those shorts that they released. Yeah. In between. Those cargo shorts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 That's a five-year-old movie now, Blade Runner 2049. It sure is, yeah. It's nuts. Why is Wikipedia so, like, the font in Wikipedia for me is really big for some reason, but I'm not zoomed in. Have you tried pinch and zoom? Have I tried pinch and zoom? Pinch and zoom you, mate.
Starting point is 00:24:00 You'll have to catch me first. So the budget. I'm climbing up the rigging. You'll never get to me. I'm going in the crow's nest. If I had a Vito, I'd get you out of that crow's nest. I'd be able to pinch you, mate. The budget was between $150 and $185 million.
Starting point is 00:24:17 So I would say probably on the higher end of that. And it made $259 million. So with marketing and whatever. And it did have a big marketing push. So, no, that wouldn't have been financially successful, at least in cinemas. It's probably broken even since. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Now, do we have any more information besides? Yes, I do, Mason. It's called Blade Runner 2099. So it's set 50 years. Yes. Oh, I didn't mention this. It's an Amazon series. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And it's from Scott Free Productions, Ridley Scott's production company. Yeah, right, right, right. And it is a limited series. So it's going to be set 50 years after the last, which is set, what was it, 30 years after the previous one? I can't remember. Yeah, the first one is set in 2019, I think, yeah. Wow, incredible stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:54 So, yeah, very excited that somebody, probably Bezos? Yeah. He seems like a nerd who would be into this. A horrible creep. And he's always got flavour-wrapped crumbs on his face. Very suspicious, Mason. Yeah. A popular food item from Red Rooster for the uninitiated.
Starting point is 00:25:11 It's the only thing worth eating there. Mason, have you seen Jeff Bezos with his shirt off? No, although I don't. He's doing some human grappling. I know almost nothing about Jeff Bezos. I never even heard him talk. Strange voice. Until he came back from space
Starting point is 00:25:26 and he left space with a bald head and he returned from space with a cowboy hat on. And I'm like, did he get that cowboy hat from space? Yeah, he did. Wow. Look at this dude. You think there's like hats up in low earth orbit and you just grab one?
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yeah. You go out on that extension arm and you grab one. For a dude who's what, 50-ish at least? Looks pretty good. Yeah, that's human growth hormone at work, mate. Good on him. Fuck this guy. What's wrong with him?
Starting point is 00:25:52 Why would you be anything like that? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I appreciate the red rooster. Blade Runner, though, great. Good stuff. Amazon clearly were happy to put a lot of money into something which people don't like. Let me ask you this, James.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Yeah. Who would you want to return? Nobody. Really? And who do you think could return? Everybody. Yeah, everybody could return. But I would love if Deckard came back.
Starting point is 00:26:16 If Harrison Ford came back as Deckard and he's not a replicant, he's just way older. He's just been another 50 years and he's even more haggard. He's still got that grey t-shirt on. He's just been another 50 years and he's even more haggard. He's still got that grey t-shirt on. He's covered in red dust. He could also come back even if the last version of him was a replicant that we saw.
Starting point is 00:26:33 He could be a replicant. Or he could be a replicant now. They make copies. They could glossy him up. Do you think a Harrison Ford or a Ryan Reynolds, not a Ryan Reynolds a Ryan Gosling would come? Ryan Reynolds would do it. Ryan Reynolds would do it. Well, Ryan Reynolds, not a Ryan Reynolds, a Ryan Gosling would come? Ryan Reynolds would do it. Ryan Reynolds would do it.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Well, Ryan Reynolds was a, Ryan Gosling was a replicant, but he apparently, maybe. Ryan Reynolds doing the Voight-Kampff test, and he's like, he's behind me, isn't he? Or like he's doing the Voight-Kampff test, and then he kills the tester, and he's like, well, that just happened. Cheers in the cinema.
Starting point is 00:27:09 They're filming. They're playing it in a cinema. But, I mean, Gosling's a replicate, so he could come back or there's another version. Well, we know Dave Bautista was also a replicant. That was the first person I thought of. I'm like, does he want to do TV? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Would he want a role? If it's limited especially. Yeah, spoiler alert for that character who got a small role in, he has a small role in 2049 and he has a slightly expanded role in the pre, which must be on the Blu-ray, but it's sort of a web short about his involvement in kind of a replicant war kind of thing. There was also, because we're in spoilers, Deckard's daughter.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Oh, yeah. There's also, I mean, they could bring back Rachel as well as they did in the previous one. Jared Leto. Sure, yeah. Yeah, sure. He's actually doing Tron 3 apparently. I know. Did the thing they were supposed to do in the last one.
Starting point is 00:28:07 She escaped with the Tron. Olivia Wilde or whatever. I got out of this Tron for nothing. Yeah, right? Yeah. There is a Tron thing coming up. I think it's like a mobile game or something. It's called Tron Identity.
Starting point is 00:28:18 It's called Tron $3 a minute. That's right. Tron transactions are automatically deducted from your Apple wallet. Very nice. Yeah. Makes you think, doesn't it? It really does. It's on Steam.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's a visual novel adventure and it's set hundreds of years after the previous Tron I've never tried one, but it just doesn't seem like it's my thing. It's a visual novel. Yeah. Yeah, right. A book, if you will. But I'm sure it's a... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I mean, I like comics. It's a fine line. I think I mentioned Kentucky Route Zero, which is like a – When you say play, what does that mean? Well, I mean, because that's the thing. It's a fine line between just watching a movie. Sorry, that was more of a statement.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I have something to say. That's right. No, go on. Like it's a fine line between, you know, just watching this story, you know, this intriguing story, but it doesn't have a lot of kind of challenging game elements to it. So it's really you just go to a place and you speak to some people and they give you some information.
Starting point is 00:29:11 You go to another place and they tell you more information. And what happens if you don't get all the information? You just wander around. And then that's it? Yeah. Okay. Maybe it'll be more like a telltale game. Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:29:21 All right. Great, great, great. Well, Mason, who would have thought? That just happened. Mason, we're going to talk about four things. Alright? Do you want to start with nope? Yes. Knowing that we talked about it before. Nope.
Starting point is 00:29:36 By that I mean I do want to talk about it. Now, do we want to do spoilers? These are all out. Should we do spoilers? I think we should do non-spoilers. Should we do a general non-spoiler? I think we can do non-spoilers. I think we should do non-spoilers for Nope. Okay. I don't think we need to cover spoilers for Prey
Starting point is 00:29:51 because it's been out for a trillion years. And also it's a Predator movie. Yeah. Have you seen any of the Predator movies? It goes about that way. It goes about that way, doesn't it? Yeah, exactly. Oh, we can talk about the thing we talked about,
Starting point is 00:30:02 about the woke thing. I knew it would have to happen within the next two or three minutes. Yeah. So let's start with no. James, it's also in this because KK Palmer's in this. That's true, yeah. There's been some KK Palmer news. The rogue stuff this week.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as I saw that, I'm like, incredible choice. And yes. Well, I work backwards because as soon as you are as soon as you open up twitter in the southern hemisphere yeah there's already memes and whatever whatever thing has happened overnight yes there's already memes and you either get concept art or what have you and jokes and whatever and then you have to sort of work backwards to figure out what happened while you were asleep and and like a like a like a visual novel like a visual novel. Like a visual novel, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:45 For us it was, yeah, but KK Palmer's, somebody suggested she would be a good rogue and then she tweeted that she would get, where's my agent, let's get this happening. And then, of course, people made fan art and people were mad about it and so on and so forth. Because I think it might have been the original video where it was like, you know, the obvious choice of being like, well, she could be Storm or whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:03 But no, like that's not a good choice at all like that like if you took her personality and put it for storm that's that's boring and not making use of yeah her abilities you know yeah uh anyway we'll talk more about that later i think sure so this is jordan peele's third directorial as mentioned sorry sorry 68 million dollars $166 million at the box office. It's now in streaming. It's making more. It's the lowest of what he's made so far. But it's been pretty well received, though.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So Get Out was only made for $4.5 million and made $255 million. Us was made for $20 million and made $255 million. What do you think the story was? Oh, okay, all right. Okay, so Daniel Kaluuya and KK Palmer, they're two siblings, and they live out in what I'm going to assume is Texas. Rural area. Well, it's got to be rural Los Angeles, right?
Starting point is 00:31:55 Because they do Hollywood stuff. Oh, yeah, they do Hollywood stuff. Because they run a horse farm. Yeah. And they're following in the family business. Their father sort of trained horses to do Hollywood stuff. Yes. But that industry is drying up because everybody's moving
Starting point is 00:32:10 to CGI horses, obviously. We'll be moving to CGI horses before too long, I think. We got to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the horses we're on now are real, but they aren't living forever, you know what I mean? No, absolutely not, yeah. We'll have to shoot them eventually.
Starting point is 00:32:22 We won't have to, but we will shoot them eventually. But they're out there. Their father died in some sort of – Freak storm? Yeah, sort of a freak objects falling from the sky storm and they're trying to keep the business afloat but people want them to – they're tempted to sell the business afloat, but, you know, people want them to, you know, they're tempted to sell the property and et cetera.
Starting point is 00:32:48 But also there's some freaky stuff happening out there. What is it? I shan't be saying. Not in non-spoiler territory, James. No, this didn't come out here. This was delayed like a month. Yeah. So I luckily avoided all the spoilers for this, which I really,
Starting point is 00:33:03 which was great because going in I'm like, oh, if I'd have known this, I don't think I would have enjoyed this as much as I did. I thought this was wonderful. I had a very good time. Yeah, I enjoyed this a lot too. Yeah. It's very. And I didn't love us either.
Starting point is 00:33:17 We talked about it. I think it's the concept I'm like I cannot get behind. The movie us. Yes. You love us. Ah, you know, we know each other. The podcast pairing. We know each other.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. And our horses seem to get along. That's true, for now. But, yeah, I just think I couldn't get behind that concept. I know also, like, the idea behind Us, it's a metaphor. If you look at it literally, it doesn't make sense. And I guess this, in the same way, this also doesn't make sense when you look at it literally, it doesn't make sense. And I guess in the same way, this also doesn't make sense when you look at it literally, I guess, a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:33:48 But I think I just thought I think the concept tied to what it meant behind it, like the messaging, I think matched really well together. Yeah, it's interesting. I wonder how much – I'm sure, you know, I'm sure there's many, many deliberate themes inserted into it, but I wonder, you know, I think this there's many, many deliberate themes inserted into it, but I wonder, you know, I think this movie has sort of a lot of great visuals
Starting point is 00:34:09 and a lot of kind of interesting sort of scenes and vignettes, and I think you sort of, you can build your own meaning out of this movie. Yeah, totally. I think I'm like, going out of this, I'm like, okay, this is a movie about old Hollywood meets new Hollywood. Old Hollywood meets new Hollywood and how, like like the Hollywood system kind of chews everybody up and as soon as your usefulness is, as soon as your skills
Starting point is 00:34:34 are no longer required, you're out the door. It's also getting like a foot in the door and social media. And what does that do to you and what do you? What are you willing to do to get? What are you willing to do to get and what is your public reaction to that kind of thing? Because we have a character in this who was sort of a child actor on a TV series and something horrendous happens on it.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Which you think is unrelated and it kind of is. But metaphorically it isn't and also literally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It also literally yeah yeah that's right and but but when he when he retells the story of of the you know of his time on this show it's nothing but wonderful memories yeah but we see inside his mind as he he recounts this story so this thing was crazy but it like it clearly destroyed him yeah i think it's really interesting and i think it's also the way that he survived it is not for the reasons that he thinks which is ultimately his undoing yeah because he thinks he hasn't it's a basic you see it at the start but basically a chimpanzee goes insane on a show and kills everybody except him and he thinks it's because
Starting point is 00:35:38 he has a connection with this thing yeah but that's not the reason he survived and he he brings that into his encounter with. Should we just do some spoilers then? Yeah, look, I think the visuals on this are great. I think there's some really chilling, I think, scenes. Like there's a moment in a barn, which is quite spooky. There's a spooky barn moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And I think, you know what is interesting, I think, as well? You know, the movie is called Nope and people say Nope. In Australia it was called Nah, mate. Yeah, nah. I don't know. Yeah, nah. Yeah, nah, mate. Nah.
Starting point is 00:36:11 It was called She'll Be Apples, mate. But like, you know, a lot of characters, that's a line of dialogue for almost every character in this movie. And it's interesting because it is, there are moments in this where the characters react, I think, how they wouldn't in a kind of horror movie. There's moments in this movie where the character is just like, I'm not going out into this.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I'm just going to stay in the car all night. That's right, exactly. And you would. And you would. Best movie ever. Yeah, best movie ever. I thought that was really – so the barn moment is where there seems to be some extra –
Starting point is 00:36:43 Are we doing spoilers? Yeah, spoilers. We just said spoilers. Okay, spoilers. We just said spoilers. Okay, great. We just said it, Mason. Okay, great. Mason. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It's like a moment from Signs where some spooky alien creatures are coming towards him. It turns out to be kids or whatever. Yeah, yeah. But I love that reaction where it's again, he's just like, no, I'm not. Yeah. I'm leaving.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Why would you further investigate? I would leave and come back the next day. Why wouldn't this inside? Yeah. A lot of people. I think maybe that is probably maybe more resonant for like African-American viewers and I think that's maybe like meant to be a sort of pointed idea of like why people in these movies act insane and why would you kind of be –
Starting point is 00:37:16 Maybe run into all these things. But we don't know. But I think that is a very kind of realistic reaction to that. I would also leave. Yeah, I would also leave. But yeah, this movie has elements of neon genesis, Evangelion. That's the thing that has been pointed out.
Starting point is 00:37:30 There's the Akira slide. Yeah, K.K. Palmer does an Akira slide on a motorcycle. It was incredible. Yeah. I also saw people say that if this was an M. Night movie, people would, like, make fun of it and laugh at it and say the premise doesn't hold up and what silly people and all of that. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I think looking at this and old, I mean, I loved old for reasons that we talked about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just don't think- How oily that guy was. He was very oily. That guy, he was so Silver Foxy. What's that guy's name from Dark City? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Rufus Sewell. Rufus Sewell, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh man, that guy's looking good. Isn't he just? But I think the execution on this was just flawless. And I also think what I also thought was really interesting that it is kind of like Signs, which is an M. Night movie, but it's also like it's Jaws.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah. So I'm so glad this wasn't spoiled, but the reveal of the extraterrestrial life form. Here's the thing also, you see it on the poster. Yeah, it's in the hat. It's literally, it's a man's hat. It the thing also. You see it on the poster. Yeah, it's the hat. It's a man's hat. It appears to be a man's hat in the poster.
Starting point is 00:38:29 But the being that is in question, we think initially it might be a UFO. It's an alien spaceship, you know, crewed by aliens and they're abducting people or what have you. But it's some sort of alien animal that has ended up in Earth, in Earth's atmosphere. Like disc-shaped. Yes. It also, it might not be an alien.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Right. It could just be an ancient creature. I love the fact that it's also, it's there for the whole movie, like the cloud is always there that it hides behind. Yeah, it can create its own stationary cloud. Yeah, I think that's. That's its nest, I guess. Yeah, it can create its own stationary cloud. Yeah, I think that's. That's its nest, I guess. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And it's there to, it consumes people and then vomits them up. It's like a horse. If you look at its eye, you spook it. Which is, yeah. Which is also why the Steven Yeun character survived the chimpanzee attack because he's got the, there's the sheet in front of it, the tablecloth, and also he's not looking at it when he gets the fist bump. Yeah. So, yeah. And then he thinks that, you know, because he's got the, there's the sheet in front of it, the tablecloth. And also he's not looking in it when he gets the fist bump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:26 So, yeah. And then he thinks that, you know, because he's been, the reason why he's been hanging around, because he's feeding it horses for a show. But there's really like that moment where it goes over their house and just like spits blood and bones. And leftovers and non-organic matter that it can't eat. Yeah. Yeah, horrifying. Yeah. And just like the weight because it moves sort of like a kite almost,
Starting point is 00:39:52 I guess. Yeah. It seems to be like mostly weightless or like there's not much heft to it, but I guess it can still lift like 20 people up into it at any given time. I also loved they brought in Michael Wincott. That's just a – Just like a real oddball kind of – what would you compare him to as a director, like a Lars von Trier kind of –
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah, maybe, sure, yeah. Kind of oddball who's – because also all the technology goes out when – When the creature arrives, yeah. So he's got a hand-cranked camera because they can capture footage of it. And I think also like the idea that at the end they use a well to take a picture of the alien to then prove to people that it's real or whatever. Like I think as a concept, literally like that's nonsense
Starting point is 00:40:40 because you'd see that and go, all right. What is this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, great. But I think as a whole and just like how it is, like two people not only desperately trying to survive in real life but also to maintain relevancy and, you know, keep going. And capture a new thing.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Capture a new thing, yeah. Capture a new thing like their ancestor, their great-great-great-grand grandfather captured the images of the horse. I love that as well, that part of the storytelling, which also like is that even true? You know, like that story that they're telling people to, you know, I thought that was great. I also read a really interesting thing about the design of the creature
Starting point is 00:41:17 whose name is something. Oh, it's cool. Oh, it's, oh, man. Well, we'll figure it out. I can't remember. Anyways. I'm going to look at it real quick. It unfolds. It's like Trachyd oh, man. Ah. Well, we'll figure it out. I can't remember. Anyways. I'm going to look it up real quick. It unfolds.
Starting point is 00:41:26 It's like Trachydax or something. Yeah. It unfolds like a big, like a big flappy sheet kind of anime monster thing. But apparently some of that design was off what, like the first interpretation of what like, of what angels look like. Yeah, okay. Biblical angels. Biblical angels.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So like you can't kind of comprehend the scale. Jean Jacket. Jean Jacket, yeah. Because he was a former horse. He was like Trachydex. You were close. And, you know, it's got like big flappy like waving arms and a big mouth in the middle and whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:56 It unfolds in this beautiful kind of butterfly kind of creature. But so it was designed off, as I said, what some people interpret angels to look like which makes sense if it's this ancient being where people would see that and it would suck people up and they're like oh there's been raptured or whatever yeah right this is an act this is a creature from heaven when it's just a monster just yeah just eating people just buzzing about eating people there's but i think there's even been talk of it's been talk of like a nope sequel or something else in the Nope-iverse. Oh, great question.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Let's have a look. Recept Future, James. Here we go. Oh, Nope sequel teased by Jordan Peele. Okay. Let me ask you this. Daniel Kaluuya's character, is he still alive at the end or is he dead? Yeah, I think he's alive. He was on that horse, wasn't he? I would love him to be alive. Exactly. Okay. In July 2022,
Starting point is 00:42:41 Perea, I don't know who that is, revealed that he had convinced Peele and the Universal executives to change his character's fate in the film's climax from being killed primarily out of interest in a potential sequel, saying, there's no way the story's over in my head. Oh, he must be a cast member. Hang on. Was he the guy who worked at the electronics store?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yeah, he's the tech guy. Yeah, I liked him. Brandon Perea is Angel Torres, a tech salesman at Fry's Electronics. He was fun. So there's no – yeah, I didn't think he was dead either. There's no way the story's over in my head. There's no way. For how heroic everything kind of seemed at the end, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:43:12 there's no way they just – they leave the heroes like this. This is just the start of something new. The jean jacket designer, John O. DeBerry, suggested that Creature survived its apparent death at the film's conclusion. In an interview with the New York Times, Peel addressed a character that was cut from the film. Listener IMDB is nobody saying, the story of that character is yet to be told, I can tell you that,
Starting point is 00:43:31 which is another frustrating way of saying, I'm glad people are paying attention. I do think they will get more answers on some of these things in the future. We're not overtelling all of these stories. That's interesting. Oh, very good. I mean, there was a Jaws 2, wasn't there? Yeah, and there also hasn't been a Get Out sequel,
Starting point is 00:43:45 which I would have loved to have seen. But I mean, maybe, I mean, you know, I guess we won't know. It seems to me that Jordan Peele has a lot of concepts in his head and he wants to get them all out there. And maybe once he's done a half a dozen of these, he might be like, let's revisit. Yeah. Let's revisit the Get Out universe or the Nope universe.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I mean, it's the one universe most simple. But it's not the universe where everybody's got Nope universe. It's the one universe, Mason. But it's not the universe where everybody's got a twin in the middle of the earth or whatever. It's a different universe. Sure, sure, sure. I'm pretty confident. Well, all in all, even though we've spoiled it, it's good. I think you should say it, folks. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I really enjoyed it. I saw it on streaming. I wish I saw it at the movies. I did not. The villain is this otherworldly threat and it is also something that everyone has in common. Everyone's relationship to the spectacle. Ooh. It was a spectacle.
Starting point is 00:44:29 That's what Jordan Peele said. I didn't say that. That's true. That's true, Mason. Yes. Anyway, I don't think it's an alien. I don't think you can go into stellar. I think it's like a weird sheet.
Starting point is 00:44:39 You know what I mean? Oh, you think it's Earth-based? I think it's Earth-based, yeah. Interesting. Right. Where does it live? I guess in that cloud. The cloud, mate.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Were you not paying attention to the cloud? No, I wasn't. Should we talk about prey? Speaking of extraterrestrials. Also, we should talk about, like, I was going to say K.K. Palmer. People are mad about it. Oh, yeah. But it's fine.
Starting point is 00:44:56 You should. I think all the mock-ups I've seen, she looks good in the thing. Yeah. And she's from, rogues from Mississippi. Perfect. There's black people in Mississippi. Exactly. What? Yeah, Mississippi. Perfect. There's black people in Mississippi. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:05 What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, like, there's no, I think this has been pointed out, but there's no, in the X-Men A-list, there aren't any, maybe there are now in the modern one, but, like, in the classic lineup, there are no, there's no black characters who are from America. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Like Storm is from, or maybe she's born in america but she's she spent most of her time in africa yeah and like bishop is maybe australian like he's he's made he's from the future he's from the future but i think he's sort of meant to be half australian and half indigenous australian half something else but there's no like just a just a black person who is american and was born in America and grew up in America and has X-Men powers. It's sort of weird that there isn't. What about that? Given the premise of the X-Men. What about Darwin?
Starting point is 00:45:52 He died. Yeah. In the movie he was in? Yes. That's right. So they can't bring him back. And I guess there's Sink. But again, I wouldn't consider these guys.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Sink. Sink was in Generation X. Okay, I don't remember Sink. And he died literally more than ten years ago in the comics and they brought him back recently. There's a Sink. What about Morph? Morph could be black, could change into something black.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I guess he could, yeah. Yeah. Perfect. The character Morph. No, it doesn't matter. And look, honestly, I just think that's a great choice. And, like, you know, with this, her mixed with, like, the stoicism of, like, Larson's Captain Marvel and whatever, I think that would be fun if she, you know, with this, her mixed with, like, the stoicism of, like, Brie Larson's Captain Marvel and whatever,
Starting point is 00:46:26 I think that would be fun if she, you know, zapped the powers out of her. Oh, yeah, of course. They have that bloody. That bust up. They have a bit of a bust up, yeah. Let's talk about Prey Mason. Speaking of bust ups, cost $65 million.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Anyway, the takeaway there was we think this sort of stuff is fun and fine and fun and good. That's right. You don't need to worry about it. And also Disney and studios do the thing in which they think is best for them profit-wise. And if they think that a bunch of people will yell about it and get them free publicity at the expense of the person in the movie being yelled at, they will do that anyway.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Sure will. And then send out a tweet that says we stand by this person or whatever. Mm-hmm. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
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Starting point is 00:47:51 So who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Anyway, so Prey seems to be a moderate streaming success at the very least at $65 million budget. I do wonder what this would have looked like as a cinematic release, no doubt bigger on a bigger screen. But also, so Predators made $126 million and The Predator made $159 million. They've never been big, huge box office draws. They've always done, like, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:22 being big, huge box office draws. They've always done, like, okay. Yeah. But I don't think they had enough faith in this franchise at this point to release it to cinemas. And they should have because people loved it. Yes, and it was good. And a lot of people watched it. I will say this, though.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Go on. I wish they just did the whole thing in Comanche. And I think also having it on streaming, you could do that. Yeah. You've got the flexibility to do that. I think, you know, you, you could do that. Yeah. You've got the flexibility to do that. I think, you know, you can kind of roll a dice on something that audiences might not be used to necessarily because also a lot of this movie is not spoken.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So for people who can't remember because this came out a trillion years ago, the options to watch this were you could watch it in English because all the actors recorded their lines in English, but you could also watch it dubbed in Comanche, the Native American language, because all the actors came back and re-recorded their audio. And you could do it with subtitles or without subtitles. So I watched it in Comanche with subtitles.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I was like, should I watch it without subtitles? Maybe I'll get the gist. But I'm sort of glad that I didn't because I think there was nuance there that I don't think I would have picked up on. No. I also think the dub, I watched it in English and then I went back and I watched scenes of it in the dub and I just don't think the dub is very good and it's really distracting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:34 So I think if you just film it like that, I mean, they can't because it's done. It's too late. Yeah, it's too late. Maybe the sequel. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. We'll talk about that as well. But I think what this does, though, it gets to the core of what makes, like, the first Predator good.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Arnold Schwarzenegger's in it. Yes, that's right. Well, it was for me. I cut out a picture of him. I stuck it around. Yeah, good. I hope he was all right. Did he get through it?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah. Yeah, great. It was like, ah. But I also enjoy, and I think people have kind of missed the point of how somebody defeats a Predator. Big guns, the biggest guns, just firing. No, Mason. Remember in the first Predator where they full fire their big guns into the jungle.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I certainly remember that. And then the Predator's like, ah, you got me. I'm dead now. You guys get out of here. You got me, I reckon. Just kidding. That doesn't do anything. See, the point of the Predator is that you can't brute force a predator.
Starting point is 00:50:24 See, the point of like the Predator is that you can't brute force a Predator. Like Arnold is probably the strongest person to ever go up we've seen in a movie against one of these. Yes. And he's like, you know, he's just throwing him around like he's a paper bag. Yes. Like you cannot defeat. What, so fling him in the air and he just sort of floats around
Starting point is 00:50:40 and you're like. Try to snatch him. Yeah. But he gets caught on the wind, yeah. So it didn't matter at the end of the day that Arnold is as strong as he is. Yes. And the same way that it doesn't matter the character in this, how strong that she is.
Starting point is 00:50:52 She defeats him because he ignores her until she's perceived as a threat. Yes. But by then she's formulated a plan. And the reason she stayed. Also, I think this guy's a rookie. Yeah, I think he is too. Yeah. And I think the reason also she stayed, survived, and some people have said this is like, well, the reason she stayed. Also, I think this guy's a rookie. Yeah, I think he is too. Yeah. And I think the reason also she stayed, survived,
Starting point is 00:51:06 and some people have said this is like, well, the reason she survived is because, you know, he didn't even try to kill her, so he was ignoring her. Yes, that's in the movie. Yeah, yeah. That's what's happening in the movie. Yeah. So, and then, you know, but she stays alive long enough
Starting point is 00:51:21 to realise what's going on and formulate a plan. Yeah. She's got the observational skills. Exactly. She's a plan. Yeah. She's got the observational skills. Exactly. She's got the tracking skills. She's got the stealth skills. She's got the axe on the rope and whatever. She steals that railgun thing.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah, she steals that thing, yeah. I think there's some CGI animals which don't look great in this. Sure, yeah. You know, there's some bear stuff which might not look great. But, again, it's streaming, so I also understand that there are limitations to what you can do. But I think the simplicity of it worked for me. And the era really worked well as well. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:54 You know, I think one of the things that I, many things that I didn't like about the last one was the way they brought it to the modern day, but they didn't, it was just nonsense, Mason. It was just a nonsense movie when we talked about it. But I don't know. I think even things like the new look for the Predator. I mean, there's always a bigger Predator, and this is one of the bigger ones that we've seen.
Starting point is 00:52:15 But it was the right size. Remember the last one was like 10 feet tall or something. I do remember that, yeah. It was too big. This one felt like it was like an appropriate size and maybe a different subspecies or from a different continent or even a different planet. But you mentioned, though, you reckon he was a rookie, this one.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I'm not basing that on anything other than a vague vibe. Yeah. I don't know. He didn't look particularly battle-scarred. I think they have like little things in their dreadlocks if they've been. If they've done a thing. If they've done a thing. He didn't have the plasma cannon, which I feel like is –
Starting point is 00:52:47 I thought that was a newer bit of technology. It might have been. Yeah, that's true. He had that laser dart thing. He did have that laser dart thing. Yeah. But, yeah, I even like that idea that they strip back all the weapons. And they did that on purpose because I think the director,
Starting point is 00:53:00 Dan Trachtenberg, was like it's kind of a – you know, if he's got a laser cannon and it's this era in time, then it's not interesting just seeing him. I think it would be interesting. And again, it's been literally hundreds of years, so it would make, I'm not sure of the timeline. I don't know if we've seen previous, you know, Predator. I guess they had plasma cannons in Alien vs. Predator.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah, they did. Modern day. No, I mean in the pre, the Aztec times. Oh, they did too, yeah. No, I mean in the pre-Aztec times. Oh, they did too, yeah. What have this? It's all canon, isn't it? It's all, yeah. Or some's in the Alien Predator versus some is the regular version.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Look, my canon would be that the canon is only given to, like, the veterans. I think it also might be a thing where. Or you have to buy it. You have to buy it. Yeah, or you're from a different part of it or, you know some people hunt with like a bow yeah yeah maybe it's just like look you you don't on your first hunt you don't get the plasma cannon because it would be too easy yeah you know that's right um anyway good casting i think amber mid thunder is the the the uh the woman who wants to become a warrior but of course society won't shan't be allowing that i think she was great
Starting point is 00:54:03 people are like you should get her in a Marvel thing. She's in Legion. Oh, she is too. She's in Legion, yeah. But again, if people want her in an MCU thing, I think people have said, oh, you should get her as X-23 or a Wolverine's clone. That could totally work.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I don't mind that at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought the, what was I going to say? I've got a bloody note here. I thought there were some really good kills in it. There's one particular scene in like the fog where the predator comes in and there's a bunch of poachers and it's just like a massacre. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:35 It's a really interesting one. There's a, it's. The shield, like in all the way the shield works. Yeah, after that as well, there's a moment in that where Naru, who is Amber Midthunder's character, like captures one of the poachers and just cuts one of his legs off. Yes. To just use him as a lure.
Starting point is 00:54:52 And I'm like, that's brutal. But you would back then. Yeah, absolutely. So those guys sucked. Yeah, most of them weren't good. But we did know that gun. We saw that gun when that guy had that gun. Well, I mean, great.
Starting point is 00:55:01 So what I was going to say. It is great. So because at the end of this, so Naru defeats the Predator and we get at the end, in the credits, we get a sort of like a Native American kind of cave painting kind of story that suggests maybe what happens afterwards. And what we do see is more alien, more Predator ships rather arriving on Earth.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah. And so – and at the end – and the Easter egg, the gun in this movie, at the end of Predator 2 when Danny Glover, the actor Danny Glover, defeats that predator, all the other predators show up. And because he is – he's won the battle, they give him a gift, which is the – Gift of friendship. The gift of friendship, but also this gun,
Starting point is 00:55:47 and it's revealed that, of course, it's in this movie. So what we have to do now is you have to draw a line between these two movies. Yeah. And the simplest explanation would be that the Predator showed up and they killed this tribe and they took the gun back. But, James, how about this? Here we go.
Starting point is 00:56:04 What I think might be a good idea for a sequel, a lot of people have been like, well, why don't we do a Predator in Samurai Towns? Maybe do a Predator in a different town. We'll get to it. Yeah, yeah. Maybe do a Predator in the jungle. Oh.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah, right. But in the Alien versus Predator comic books, there's a character that has, and we've talked about this in our comic book club, Machiko Noguchi, who is an Asian character who joined, she proves herself as a warrior and she joins the Predators in space. Yeah. But they've never really done anything with that character in the wider universe.
Starting point is 00:56:39 So I'm saying, and also like. Do some version of that. Do some version of that. Because if you remember Batman versus Predator, the comic book. Yeah yeah batman defeats the predator and they gift him like a ceremonial sword that's just that isn't just something they found like that's significant to them yeah so that would suggest the gun is significant to them as well can you say no like no i don't know yeah i don't want to do this actually but it would suggest to me that like she i think a good thing maybe would be she wants to hunt. She wants to hunt.
Starting point is 00:57:05 She wants to hunt and they're like, how about come with us? Because then the gun would represent it's a weapon of a warrior they respect. Yes. And so then they could be like, in Predator 2, Tom, they could be like this is one of our greatest warriors had the gun or whatever. Yeah. That would be cool. That would be cool.
Starting point is 00:57:19 That would be cool. Do you think there's like a longevity, like they could even have her show up in the future or whatever? Sure, time dilation. Apparently – Time dilation, James. Thank you. In Predators 2, if they ever did a Predators 2, so in that movie that was set,
Starting point is 00:57:33 it was on an alien reserve planet where they took all the people. Yeah, yeah. And the sequel, they get back to Earth and it's the future. And basically they'd just been on ice and then they released them there, you know, like 50 years in the future or whatever it was and then by the time they got back it's the year 2100 or whatever. So I think that could be, you know, you could really bring her to any time if you really wanted to.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Agreed. I don't think I want just prey to. Well, that just happened, you could say. I don't want to prey to where it's just the same thing again and, you know, it's a Predators comeback but there's maybe more of them and all of that. Like what's the point of that? You know, I like seeing the dog and I liked Chekhov's mud pit
Starting point is 00:58:12 and all of those things. Yeah, right, right, right. But this is an opportunity to do something different with it, with the movie which most people seem to really enjoy. I did think the finale of how she killed him was a little muddled okay she stole the helmet yes aiming and the thing shoots wherever the thing is and whatever yeah i like i understand i understand it but i think it's a bit right i understand and i think you know obviously see that i mean i think the thing is that and a lot of people don't really acknowledge this in action movies a lot of the
Starting point is 00:58:43 time especially in the present day is a lot of this sort of really acknowledge this in action movies a lot of the time, especially in the present day, is a lot of this sort of stuff is down to luck. Like it is kind of a last-ditch thing. Like so the way I understood that was so the Predator's railgun, when he activates the railgun, his three-dot sight lights up and the railgun, the round will follow around and hit whatever the red dot sight is up and the rail gun, the round will follow around and hit whatever is looking at, whatever the red dot sight is looking at. But he thinks that the mask, she takes his mask and he thinks it's lost.
Starting point is 00:59:14 So my assumption is there that he thinks it's just going to dumbfire. Shoot straight, yes. That's what I get. But then he doesn't realise until it's too late that she's recovered the mask and it's pointing at him. That being said, you're right, it was a little bit muddled as to where the mask was. But I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:31 It was a last-ditch thing. If it didn't work, I guess she'd try something else. Exactly. But I also thought that I liked how she managed to remove one of his arms and shoot him in the back of the head. And he was clearly dying. So he wasn't thinking clearly. He wasn't thinking straight because he's been bullet in his head. Yeah, clearly dying. So he wasn't thinking clearly. He wasn't thinking straight because he's being a bullet in his head.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Yeah, and he probably knew he wasn't going to escape this. Even if he killed her, he wasn't going to. I can't imagine he would have done well. Like they would have picked him up and just been like, you fucking idiot. You're a mess. You got shot in the head. What were you thinking?
Starting point is 01:00:00 Our pals over at Do Go On did an episode many years ago about the craziest duels in all of history. Okay. And one of them, a doctor is challenged to a duel and the first thing he does in the duel is he takes all his clothes off and the guy challenging him was like, you know what, I don't want to do this anymore. But apparently that's because the way a lot of people,
Starting point is 01:00:19 because back in the day those kind of percussion guns, like the round wouldn't like go through your head and kill you and come out the other side. What would happen a lot of the time is you would get shot. Get a bit of cloth in it, right? Yeah, the cloth would get pushed into your skin, like into your flesh, and because everybody's clothes were disgusting and dirty, you would get infected and you would die from that.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So he's just like, if I'm not wearing any clothes, I might survive this. And he did. So I can do that? Yeah, you can definitely do that. Dakota Beavers as her brother was, I think, very good. The Predator was good. Dane Delegilier. He was very good, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:54 I loved the look and the size and all of that. I mentioned that. And then he had that. He didn't have the metallic Predator mask. He had the bone one. Everyone was good in this, and the horrible poachers were good. We're a good secondary antagonist. They're French and German.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I think it's a mixture. Yeah, right. It's not good, apparently. I wouldn't know. But also, and of course, Coco as the dog. Five stars. Five stars as the dog. Apparently, according to the director, he would, because the dog was not a trained Hollywood dog. She was just like a kind of adopted mut the dog was not like a trained Hollywood dog.
Starting point is 01:01:25 She was just like a kind of adopted mutt. It looks like a mutt. Ollie's kind of like that. Like, what kind of dog is this? Yeah, like it's sort of, you know, kind of a street dog who was not really trained for this sort of thing. And apparently the director was told,
Starting point is 01:01:39 like every time he presented a cut of this movie to his friends, they're like, more dog. Put more dog in this. And he's like, we have put in literally every usable frame of the dog. Every other frame of the dog is it playing up because it's not a Hollywood dog and it's just running around following the predator and wagging his tail because he thinks it's fun or whatever. So, you know.
Starting point is 01:02:00 That's fun. It is fun. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, more Predator plays. More Predator plays. The next one will be bad because that is how Predator movies is fun. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, more Predator plays. More Predator plays. The next one will be bad because that is how Predator movies work. It seems that way, yeah. Not only will it be bad, it'll be woeful.
Starting point is 01:02:11 So it'll be atrocious. Great. Look forward to it, folks. That's the weekly planet guarantee. One of the worst movies you've ever seen. The Sandman, everybody. Ooh. This was a Netflix show which is probably going to get cancelled.
Starting point is 01:02:25 You think so? Yeah, well, actually, this was a Netflix show which is probably going to get cancelled. You think so? Yeah, well, actually, this is a quote from Neil Gaiman, who of course wrote the original Sandman comic and had a big hand in this. We're stuffed, mate. I don't know what to do. Some people said she'll be apples, but I reckon she's stuffed, mate. That's what he said. She's not going to be apples.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Because Sandman is really expensive, I looked into this, it's $15 million per episode, and there were 11 episodes. Well, there were 10 and there was a bonus episode. That's right. And for Netflix to release the money to let us make another season, we have to perform incredibly well. So, yes, we've been the top show in the world for the last two weeks. That still may not be enough.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Also, this is not the first time that there's been an attempt to bring this to live action. He leaked a script. Did you see that? I did, yeah. So it was – was it John Peters? It was John Peters. He famously produced some Batman stuff, some like 1980s Batman stuff. Kevin Smith's Batman movie, the Superman movie that didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah, people will remember him from the Kevin Smith Q&A story where he got Kevin Smith to do some rewriting on a Superman script and he said, Superman needs to fight a giant spider in the third act. Yes. And then, of course, that didn't get made, but then he produced Wild Wild West in which the heroes, the titular Wild Wild West heroes fight a giant spider in the third act. But supposedly the Sandman script was so bad that Neil Gaiman leaked it
Starting point is 01:03:45 on the internet and people read it and went, this is atrocious. Don't make it. Don't make this. We would never watch it. And it forced their hand. So he's been pretty. And people were mad about that. They're like, how dare Neil Gaiman.
Starting point is 01:03:55 No, good. I agree. I agree. I mean, legally is it right? Probably not. Probably not. But also, what are they going to do, throw Neil Gaiman in jail? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I mean, yeah. Yeah, maybe. Maybe he deserves it. That's right. Maybe he can get beheaded at the Tower of London. That's what happens to criminals in that godforsaken land. I thought every single casting choice in this was great also. Not only that, I love that Neil Gaiman went out of his way
Starting point is 01:04:21 to defend somebody was a different race or colour or sex or gender or whatever and he was just on the forefront of that the entire time. I saw a comment that was like, you know, you drew Lucifer to look like David Bowie and now it's Gwendolyn Christie and he's like, David Bowie's dead. Yeah. So we got Gwendolyn. We can't get David Bowie, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Not that it matters if he was alive. It's irrelevant. I think every piece of casting here is really well. And he's also talked about, you know, I drew them this way. Did he draw that actually? He didn't draw it. Okay, well, that was created that way because it was the era, you know, and if I created it now, I would have probably made more diverse characters
Starting point is 01:05:01 or whatever. Not that there was a lack of diversity. I mean, you know, compared to this, I guess there was a lack. But, you know, throughout Neil Gaiman's writing career, there certainly hasn't been a lack of diversity or, you know, diverse viewpoints and that sort of stuff. People were like. And I love a guy who's like, like he's older, you know, than us,
Starting point is 01:05:20 which is old. That's right. But he's, you know, growing and changing. Yeah, growing. 22-year-old. Changing and learning. You know, I think that's really cool. You're not just like, no, everything's too much now
Starting point is 01:05:30 and I won't learn a single thing and everything's too woke. The earliest, I believe the earliest Sandman artist was Sam Keith. Okay. Who is probably best known as the creator of The Max. Do you remember The Max? I remember The Max. The Max was a very kind of surreal comic book series that got an animated series
Starting point is 01:05:47 in the 90s. Did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very weird. But he's just this enormous hulking purple monster who exists in dreams. Like a cartoon show? Yeah, it got an animated series. 93 to 98? What? How have I never seen this?
Starting point is 01:06:03 I watched it at a comic book convention once. Did it air here? Don't know. It did at that comic book convention. It's got like. This was an MTV thing. So this is when MTV were absolutely going nuts. It was this and Liquid Television and Eon Flux and all that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:19 So Channing Tatum and Roy Lee announced their intent to produce a film based on the Max but not complete it. And that was in 2019, so it was just pre-pandemic. There you go. Okay. Great. Mason. Go on.
Starting point is 01:06:33 I liked the way that this feels episodic in a way that a lot of TV is not. You know how people will often be like, and I think maybe I saw an interview for this or it might have just been TV. It might have been something for Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul, where it was a lot of TV kind of doesn't bother to do that. They're like, no, this is like a movie. It's like a long movie. It's a 10-hour, 10 to 11-hour movie.
Starting point is 01:06:52 And it's like, hey, this is too long for a movie. Nothing's happened realistically in this hour. A good example of that, and even though I enjoyed a lot of it, like Obi-Wan, it's like you could cut two episodes out of this easy. Yeah, right, right. This could have been two and a half hours. And again, I like a lot of that, but I feel like this having
Starting point is 01:07:10 individual issues of the comics or story arcs being one episode or two, and there are threads that follow through, obviously. Yes, yes. But I enjoyed the self-contained nature of so much of this. Yeah, they didn't. Neil Gaiman, you know, has clearly held out for a long time until he could make exactly the show that he wanted to make with this. But he should be in jail.
Starting point is 01:07:30 He should be in jail and beheaded. Be in jail for a while, then beheaded. Yeah, there should be a mock trial. We all know what's going to happen. That's right. And then he's beheaded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the original comic books weren't, well,
Starting point is 01:07:41 we're building up to a big story and so nothing's going to happen in these issues until we get to the end. Clearly he was beholden to the concept of, well, there is an overarching story but this thing, you know, isn't it amazing we're heaping praise on just the idea of like, the idea just in this streaming era, the idea of, well, an hour of a thing you watch should have a beginning, middle and end and be satisfying to watch. And there are certain arcs i think that it's been such a long
Starting point is 01:08:09 time since i've read the sandman so it is good what what i enjoyed about this series is that i remember sort of vague elements to it but i was all i also ended up being quite surprised by yeah and i hadn't read all of it yeah so so there is a there is an there's an episode devoted to to a man who hundreds of years ago decided that he would one day – that he would never die. And so dream and death, the two kind of cosmic embodiments of those concepts. Let's see it. Let's see what happens. And so in the – if I remember correctly, in the comic books, his story is spread out over several issues over several years.
Starting point is 01:08:46 But in this they went, okay, let's show his entire arc. I think this was my favourite episode. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of. That's Ben Kingsley's son. Ben Kingsley's son. Yeah, so Ben Kingsley. Ben Kingsley Jr.
Starting point is 01:08:58 That's right. It's Ben Kingsley. It's Benny Jr. BKJ. Benny Junes. Benny Junes. Benny Junes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I also thought Tom Sturridge. Tom Sturridge, yes. Bitty Junes. Bitty Junes. Bitty Junes. Yeah. I also thought Tom's Sturridge. Tom's Sturridge, yes. It was very good. And I think apparently they tried. Sturridge is a type of British porridge. Very good. It's even. You put a spoon in it.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Does that spoon fall down, Mason? No, sometimes it springs out at you. Hits you in the eye. That's how Sturridge it is. But I thought he, apparently they try with the bigger hair because in the comic book he's got this kind of Sideshow Bob-esque, not really, but I think it would have looked too silly. I think they had the right level of pomposity.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Once again, I believe originally some of the appearance of the Sandman was based on Robert Smith from The Cure. Shock of all shocks. He's aged out of that role. Yeah, absolutely. You can't get him. You've got to get a skinny, tall, skinny man who looks a little bit like a matchstick.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yeah, I love the build of him as well. The first couple of episodes are dedicated to him being captured. Yes. And I just like the physicality of him and his voice and all of that. And also, I guess this also speaks to Neil Gaiman. You see that he learns and he becomes more human as the years go on. Like he has every reason to kind of turn his back on humanity and be mad, but he is constantly trying to improve himself.
Starting point is 01:10:16 And he's like, he is full of like vengeance, but that's not his go-to setting. And he has a lot of like forgiveness in him. And you see that kind of come out over the episodes which i thought was was really great i also thought like the diner episode obviously people talked about as well how it's like a bottle episode where everybody's trapped in a diner yeah well that's one of the elements that i um i mentioned that you know having read it years and years ago that i was like because because that is a, I guess we're doing spoilers for this,
Starting point is 01:10:45 but they're, you know, a man who is in possession of Dream's dream stone, one of his. He hasn't got all his stuff. One of his sort of artefacts of powers, who in the comic was Dr. Destiny, but they've sort of. Okay. You know, they're not doing the superhero-y stuff because I think it would be too confusing.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Yeah. But he goes into a diner and he uses the powers to kind of make people's kind of most sort of primordial desires come out and they all end up killing themselves and each other in horrible ways. And having read it years ago, I'm like, does anybody get out of this? I kind of hope that some people do, but I'm like, but, you know, they didn't. They didn't.
Starting point is 01:11:23 They all died. They all had a big death, didn't they? Yeah. Yeah. I also thought there's a serial killer convention that he visits. Oh, yes. And he's just like, this is a time where I could just use all my powers and destroy everybody's minds at once.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I thought that that was great. And just the idea of the serial killer convention is it's so brazen and open. Yeah, right, right. It's just like in this hotel and open. Yeah, right, right, yeah. It's just like in this hotel and whatever. I thought that was really great. And there's also an episode of a kid that's been kidnapped.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Yes. Who is being protected by, because when he gets imprisoned, a bunch of his creations like nightmares and dreams. When Dream gets imprisoned, yes. Escape or leave and create their own kind of life. And one of his nightmares escapes and chooses to help this kidnapped boy. Yes. And then when he finds her, he's not like – like he is mad initially that like you're a creation of mine and it's not your job as a nightmare to go
Starting point is 01:12:16 and do this thing. But one of those things that he learns where he's like this person has made this decision and can think for themselves and shouldn't be punished for taking these steps. Yeah, yeah. And the kid's got little Sandman powers. Well, I was going to say there are some fun little nods to kind of, for people who don't know, the Sandman was created originally.
Starting point is 01:12:37 The Sandman was created by Neil Gaiman for DC. They were like, we have this Sandman character. We've had a number of Sandman-style characters over the years. We would like to make a new Sandman, just make him different than all the previous ones. If I remember correctly, the Sandman was originally going to be put in the regular DC universe. Like all the old ads for it at the time were just like,
Starting point is 01:12:59 this is a new DC thing. But then they created Vertigo, which was kind of an imprint for sort of weirder, more mature, sort of more adult-oriented comic book stuff, and they were like this is going to be the new. Weird stuff. Yeah, this is going to be, and Sandman's going to be the flagship book for this.
Starting point is 01:13:15 But I think at that point Neil Gaiman, Sam Keith, and all the other artists had created enough stuff that was sort of connected to the DC universe. So the first couple of years of the comic books, there are elements that share in with the regular DC universe. So, for example, in the comic books, like I said, one of the people that acquires one of Dream's artefacts is Dr Destiny and he uses it to create weird, his weird dream controlling super science.
Starting point is 01:13:42 They retcon that in. But in this, of course, they don't want to use him so he's just – David Thewlis. It's just David Thewlis who's getting a bloody another comic book movie role, isn't he? Oh, yeah, he was Hades or whatever. Ares, yeah, he was Ares in Wonder Woman, yeah. But, yeah, I liked all the little nods.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Like, you know, when the little boy is, you know, he's being kidnapped but in his dreams where he's Sam and he's fighting like classic Justice Society villains. Like you see Captain Cold and Johnny Sorrow. Yeah. Were they named? Yes. Oh, they were?
Starting point is 01:14:12 Yeah. The woman who's looking after him is like, oh, who is it this time? Is it Johnny Sorrow? Is it bloody whoever else? Oh, okay. That's cool. And we see them all a little. And he gets the costume of the jack kirby sandman right okay
Starting point is 01:14:25 from the 70s yeah that's cool it is cool what do you think about the mind fight with death uh yeah um yeah i mean i believe that is directly out of the comic books but just the idea just you could have just you could have opened with hope you could that's true yeah because it's like if you haven't folks if you haven't seen it, instead of... Or whatever, is it hope? I can't remember. A dream in order to get one of his artifacts back goes to hell and a demon has one of his artifacts
Starting point is 01:14:54 and the demon's like, well, challenge me and I will... If you win, I'll give it back. The demon chooses Lucifer, the all-powerful Lucifer, as his champion. And then rather than punching on, Dream and Lucifer have a concept fight and they just say a bunch of stuff. And I, you know, I think it works in the concept,
Starting point is 01:15:14 in the context of the show and it works in the context of the comic books. But, again, I would have just said, well, I'm Superman actually and he's invulnerable so don't worry about it. And Infinity. And Infinity. And Infinity! I'm actually Superman, but he's got the Infinity Gauntlet. So, sorry. Yeah. There's also
Starting point is 01:15:34 a death episode where he wanders around with death. Yes. I thought it was quite good, just collecting this reaping soul. It's been in a real cool, calm way. Yeah. Let's go, man. Let's do it. Wow, there's a bonus cat episode, I thought. I actually didn't, okay, let's go, man. Let's do it. Wow, the bonus cat episode I thought was. I actually didn't see that. You should watch it.
Starting point is 01:15:48 It's totally worth watching. I really enjoyed this. I think Neil Gaiman also, we talked about this, has the opportunity to take this somewhere else. Right, yes. Which is great. I don't know whether anybody else would pick it up, but I would love that to be the case.
Starting point is 01:16:02 And it's the biggest show in the world, but is it enough? I don't know. Can they turn it into some sort of reality show competition where people can dress as various members of the Endless and win a part of a $4.56 million prize? Oh, do you think so? Yeah. Here's a question for you, actually.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Sandman real life. What if Sandman real life? Was Boyd Holbrook in? He was in Logan. He was in Logan, yeah. Was he also in The Holbrook in? He was in Logan. He was in Logan, yeah. Was he also in The Predator? Yeah, he was in Logan. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Nice return from him. I think he's suitably menacing. He had teeth eyes. Like Patton Oswalt as Matthew the Raven. See, I didn't like that because it was so obviously Patton Oswalt. Right, okay. I think he's terrific, but I think that for me took me out of it a little bit. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Who else was good in this? I think Gwendolyn Christie was great as Lucifer and Jenna Coleman as Joanna Constantine. Was that a rights thing to not use John Constantine? No, I think it might have been because I think maybe we mentioned it before, but Joanna Constantine in the comic books is an ancestor of John Constantine. And I think maybe they just wanted a through line to be like, okay, well, he meets Joanna.
Starting point is 01:17:09 He meets an ancestor of Joanna in the past, and he's the present-day version. I think maybe that was it. I would have. But it also wouldn't shock me because there's so many other Constantines. There's the CW one and there's the Keanu Reeves one. Maybe they were just like – or maybe it could be a bunch of things. I think from memory he just thought that would be interesting.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Yeah, maybe. Again, it might have been that and also if you put in a John Constantine, a John Constantine, people would be like, oh, but he doesn't look like Sting and he doesn't – oh, but he doesn't look like Keanu. Which one is it? What part of the ongoing DCEUCW, what is the thing? And I imagine maybe Gaiman was just like, it's none of them.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Yeah. And if I make it a different character, people will not ask me questions about where it fits in a larger comic book universe. This is the same with all the other stuff, I think. I love all other stuff. What we didn't get, and I guess it's not really part of the Sandman, the mystical kind of Sandman universe, I would have liked to see a nod to the 1930s Sandman, the mystery man.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Maybe we'll get that in subsequent seasons if we ever get a subsequent season. But if people want to check that out, I think people should read the comic books as well. If you like this. I mean, I love reading a comic book. I'm happy. I'll flick through a comic book. There's that and there's also Sandman Mystery Theatre, which is kind of a sort of a modern retelling of the pulp Sandman character
Starting point is 01:18:30 who's just a guy in a suit and a gas mask. Punching someone. Just punching someone, yeah. I love that. Well, Mason, it's time. Oh, what's it time for? We have to talk about Pinocchio. Okay, is this what we read and what we're going to read?
Starting point is 01:18:40 No, no. This is the main part of the show. Okay, well, that's all right because I remembered I have something in what we read and what we're going to read. Terrific. Okay This is the main part of the show. Okay, well, that's all right because I remembered I have something in what we read and what we're going to read. Terrific. That's fine. Okay. Anyway, you made us watch Pinocchio.
Starting point is 01:18:48 No, I only watched 10 minutes of Pinocchio. God damn it. That wasn't intentional. You owe me big time. You owe me a flavor wrap, James. Well, Claire has been busy doing a lot of interviews and stuff. So I haven't had the opportunity to sit down and watch Pinocchio and I didn't want to make my son watch Pinocchio. Sure. Because I heard nothing but bad things. You know, maybe it's interviews and stuff. So I haven't had the opportunity to sit down and watch Pinocchio and I didn't want to make my son watch Pinocchio.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Sure. Because I heard nothing but bad things. You know, maybe it's dark and twisted. I don't know. It's not. So, look, I know we talked about how anybody can be any race or colour or whatever, but we talk about the Tom Hanks being Italian. This isn't even the first.
Starting point is 01:19:23 It's Italian Eurasia, Mason. It is. This isn't even the first time this year he's played a vague European man. What was he in? Yeah, Elvis. Oh, I haven't watched it yet. Have you watched it? No.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Not yet, but I've seen enough clips of him. To know that you love it? Yeah, I love it. I don't actually obviously care about that. Yeah, I just couldn't also. I just hated it. What did you think? I mean, it's, look, technically.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Yeah. I guess it's interesting. All the clocks were different Disney characters. Yeah, and there's a, like as an example, there's a moment where Jiminy Cricket is looking inside, I think he's looking inside Giuseppe's, that's not the character. What's the character's name?
Starting point is 01:20:01 Geppetto. Geppetto's, there we go. I was thinking Papa Giuseppe's genuine Italian pizza. But he's looking inside. He's outside and I think he's looking in Geppetto's workshop and you see just the window and the window looks like a perfect, it looks like a real pane of glass with just like a little bit of like dirt and mold around it.
Starting point is 01:20:19 And it's just so well done and like all the textures are well done. But it's just, from what I can tell, it is pretty much a frame-by-frame remake of the original and it's just not very interesting. It's just – So he ends up in the whale. Is that true? Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:34 How does that happen? I don't think I've ever seen it. Well, it's not a whale. It's a monster. It's a sea monster that looks a lot like a whale. Oh. So the basic – Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:42 So the basic plot is that Geppetto, he's all alone, but he carves a wooden boy. Yep. And then he goes to sleep and then the star, the Wish Upon a Star star, makes him alive and the blue fairy shows up and is like, I'm going to give you consciousness and all this sort of stuff. But then you won't become a real boy unless you prove you're brave
Starting point is 01:21:03 and something, something, whatever. Like a real boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Geppetto sends him to school and he gets waylaid by a fox played by Keegan-Michael Key who's like, I'm going to make you a star. And then he goes to a – there's a couple of good jokes. At the end he goes – at the end when he finally meets up with Geppetto again, Pinocchio recounts his entire adventure and Geppetto's like,
Starting point is 01:21:24 you did all that in one day? And I'm like, that was pretty funny. It was a good – look, me retelling it is not good. No, no, it's a great joke. But I think Tom Hanks really sells it. Okay. But then he gets put in a travelling circus show. There's an evil circus guy.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Turns into a donkey. Yeah, and then – no, well, then, James, then he goes – he escapes there and then he goes to. I feel so bad I made you watch this. That wasn't my intention. It wasn't a trick, mate. I feel, I think I have seen the original Pinocchio and it's the same.
Starting point is 01:21:55 But, and then he goes to Pleasure Island, which is where all the naughty children go. The creeps go. They think they're going to have the greatest time, but then Luke Evans, who is an evil guy, if you do enough evil on Pleasure Island, you get turned into a donkey. Magic turns you into a donkey,
Starting point is 01:22:11 and then he sells the donkeys for donkey meat, I think. But then he escapes. And meanwhile, Geppetto has learned that he's gone out to sea at Pleasure Island, so he sells all his clocks and he goes to. But he loved his clocks. I know, but he loves Pinocchio more. The reminder of his wife or something. Yeah, something.
Starting point is 01:22:28 But then he goes out into the ocean. He buys a boat, but then they sort of meet in the middle and then they get eaten by the big sea monster. And then they start a fire on the sea monster and they escape. And then it's like... Pretty much, yeah. How does he turn into a regular boy? He doesn't. They're like, maybe
Starting point is 01:22:43 one day he'll become a real boy. What? Maybe there's more stories to come with Pinocchio. That's crazy, really? I don't want that, though. I didn't finish it. Just the moment where he was just like, oh, I'm so sad. My son died, so I've made this wooden boy.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Oh, I could never sell my clocks. I'm so sad because my wife died. I'm like, hey, stop talking to yourself, man. Oh, you think that's maybe why he hasn't got another wife? No, I just thought it was really heavy handed. I'm just like. Well, that's how they did it. Those things could have been inferred.
Starting point is 01:23:14 You just show a picture. There's his kid and his wife or whatever. I mean. And underneath it says my kid and wife are dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's written that on the picture frame. And then Elaine from Seinfeld shows up and she's like, I need a little wooden boy for the team.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Should I watch this? Thunderbolts. Should I show my kids this? I don't know. Show them the original one. Isn't it spookier? Yeah, I think it is spookier actually, yeah. Well, I mean that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Like technically I guess this is an interesting achievement, but it's not as interesting as, you know, two hours of hand-drawn, you know, beautiful hand-drawn animation, whereas this is just, well, we built the Pinocchio character model and we'll put in this scene and this scene. I don't know. I didn't like his eyes either. I thought the painted on it kind of looked like the lack of, I think,
Starting point is 01:23:59 outline on his eyes. Right, right. Just like, I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, I loved it. Is that it, Mason? That's not it. No, it's certainly not it. Because't know. I don't know. Anyway, I loved it. Is that it, Mason? That's not it. No, it's certainly not it.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Because we've got more things to do. Anyway, I apologise. I did not, it wasn't my intention to trick you into watching Pinocchio. Next time you say we're watching a thing, I'm going to text you every ten minutes. Like, you're still watching this? You're still watching? Even if you're sitting next to me in the centre, I'd be like, you're still paying attention to this?
Starting point is 01:24:23 You're still paying attention to this? You're still paying attention to this? I've never not watched something. Maybe he does turn into a real boy in the original. This is maybe perhaps more authentic to the. I couldn't tell you. Also, we should stress that this is not the live action version that came out a couple of years ago, nor is it the Guillermo del Toro one which is still coming out.
Starting point is 01:24:40 This is a different one. Have you seen the Paulie Shaw one? No. You haven't seen this clip? No, I don't think so. Okay, I'm going to play it for you right now. Right.'t seen this clip? No, I don't think so. Okay, I'm going to play it for you right now. Right. Have you really not seen this?
Starting point is 01:24:48 I don't think so. Okay. Okay. All right. Ben sent me this. Oh. Ben, the editor, of course. So just tell me when, just you'll say.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Okay. There you go. Now, what should we name you? Oh, just you'll say. Okay. There you go. Now, what should we name you? Oh, this is CGI also. No, he'd grow up to be a turtle who only cares about pizza. I don't believe my eyes. Your name will be Pinocchio. Father, when can I leave to be on my own?
Starting point is 01:25:23 Oh, that's bad. I see where he's going with it, but... I just love it how it's just pulling, Father. You just recorded it over the phone, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. I think the cast is pretty good, compared to that especially. It's Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Jiminy Cricket, which I wouldn't have known unless.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Yeah, he nails that. Yeah. Lorraine Bracco is from, of course, The Sopranos, is a seagull. Keegan-Michael Key is a fox, but he also has this hideous mute monster cat sidekick. Okay. He's just a freak, just a real horrible little freak. Just a freak, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:02 And the kid who plays Pinocchio, pretty good, I thought. Benjamin Evans something. Ainsworth, yes. Wow. Yeah. Oh, and Luke huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the kid who plays Pinocchio, pretty good, I thought. Benjamin Evans something. Ainsworth, yes. Wow. Yeah. Oh, and Luke Evans is as good as the coachman, I think. I think he's particularly. He'll dip into a live action fable or something.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Luke Evans on the screen. It's true. I love his Instagram. A lot of charisma. He's always shirtless. He's very fit. He's always very fit.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Having a drink and a bench time. Check him out on Instagram. Check him out on Instagram. A lot of charisma. He's always shirtless. He's very fit. He's always very fit. Having a drink and a bench time. Check him out on Instagram. Check him out on Instagram. All right. A little plug for Luke Evans' Instagram. Shall we move on? Yes. But to what?
Starting point is 01:26:34 Let's move on to what we're reading. What are we going to read? What are we going to read? As if we haven't been bloody reading a bunch of stuff. He's right. I'm doing a thing. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? stuff he's right i'm doing the thing wow wow indeed we come in here and we say what have we been doing that's right that's what we said to each other uh what do you mean reading and doing i watched a movie uh which has been
Starting point is 01:26:59 out for a little while but i forgot it was happening but uh happening no not the happening i've never i've never seen the happening. It's fascinating. Yeah. Speaking of, you know, Brendan Fraser's got a lot of heat going on. The whale is apparently very good. The whale is apparently very good. He's gotten a lot of Oscar buzz.
Starting point is 01:27:15 He would have got a lot of heat for the bloody Firefly in Batgirl, but of course that got cancelled. Yes, very good. But I decided to check out another thing he's in, which is a Steven Soderbergh movie called No Sudden Move, which came out last year. Oh, I haven't seen that. But it's on all your bloody streaming platforms.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Is it good? Yeah, it's good. It's like a period sort of heist movie. What's the period? Like the 50s. But here's the cast. So it's Steven Soderbergh. Oh, loving this cast.
Starting point is 01:27:40 It's written by Ed Solomon, who did Men in Black, among many, many things. Yes, yes. But here's the cast. Don Cheadle, Benicio Del Tor Written by Ed Solomon, who did Men in Black, among many, many things. Yes, yes. But here's the cast. Don Cheadle, Benicio Del Toro, David Harbour, John Hamm, Amy Simons, Brendan Fazer, Kieran Culkin. How have I never heard of this? The late Ray Liotta, Bill Duke, Matt Damon is also in this movie.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Did you say John Hamm as well? John Hamm is also in this movie, yeah. Sebastian Stan is in it? Is he? Yeah, apparently. I don't remember that at all. Maybe he's the voice of a computer. He might be the voice of a computer, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Damn, man. How have I not heard of this? It's amazing, isn't it? Yeah. So it's good? Yeah, it's really good. Peter Lee? Brendan Fraser.
Starting point is 01:28:16 No, he's got a significant role, though. Yeah, okay. He's like, he's a guy, he's one of, well, it's a smallish role, but he's a guy, he's like, he's a guy making the heist happen. He's organising all the blokes. Oh, he's the heist man. He's organising all the blokes you need. I'm going to put that in my list of things, Mason.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Yeah, it's good. No sudden move. So is it Oceans-esque? No, it's more of a… The bank job? The Italian job? It's close to the bank job, I would suggest. Okay, the Italian job?
Starting point is 01:28:44 Which one? The original or the remake? No to The Bank Job, I would suggest. Okay, The Italian Job? Which one? The original or the remake? No, The Bank Job, James. Which one? The only one. Very good. I like that movie. It's good.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Mason, we both read Superman Up in the Sky for our comic book club. Which is 2019. It's written by Tom King and illustrated by Andy Kubit. It's very good. It's really good, right? That will be out in a couple of weeks, though, because at bigsandwich.co right now, if you do want to sign up for nine bucks a month, it's like good. It's really good, right? That will be out in a couple of weeks though because at bigsandwich.co right now, if you do want to sign up for $9 a month,
Starting point is 01:29:07 it's like a private Patreon. We did a commentary for the 1990 Captain America movie. We said why not? We said why not. Also, it's on YouTube, so if you did want to watch it along with this, it's on YouTube. You don't have to buy a weird bootleg or anything.
Starting point is 01:29:19 It's on YouTube. The weird bootleg is ready for you right now. That's right. Nobody's ever bothered to take it down for some reason. What a wild assortment of stuff on YouTube. The weird bootleg is ready for you right now. That's right. Nobody's ever bothered to take it down for some reason. What a wild assortment of stuff on YouTube. So you can sync it to that. You would think. I'm going to check right now to see if it's still on there.
Starting point is 01:29:34 What, do you think we looked at it and so they took it down? Well, maybe. Guys, it's still there. Of course it is. That's wild. It's interesting, isn't it, though, as a movie? Yeah, it is, there. Of course it is. That's wild. You'd think because you would think. It's interesting, isn't it, though, as a movie? Yeah, it is, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:29:48 Yeah. Well, look, what I would say about it. It's also not as bad as I thought it would be. No, I mean, it's sort of, it's not great. No, I mean, it's, you know, it's probably a step below your Batman 89s and that sort of stuff. Yes, it is. It's significantly.
Starting point is 01:30:00 No, it's significantly. And there's some bizarre choices in it in terms of storyline and casting and why the Red Skull is Italian and not a Nazi. There's a bike sequence which unfolds very rapidly. There's a couple of scenes that are hectic. Let me tell you that much. Just that are absolutely worth the price of admission, which is free. Yeah. Yeah, people should check that out.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Not without commentary. That'll cost you. Yeah, that'll cost you. The movie is free for some reason, but ours isn't. But isn't it interesting that Marvel haven't, or Disney haven't gone, we'll get rid of this? I don't think they care. Okay, well, we'll see, won't we?
Starting point is 01:30:32 Yeah. You got anything else? Because I've got another thing. I don't have any more things, James. Go for it. I'm going to talk about Andor episodes one to four. Oh. But I'm going to not do spoilers.
Starting point is 01:30:42 I think this might be the best Star Wars series they've made so far. I've only seen the first four, obviously. Is it filled with Easter eggs and references? No. Your watermark for what is good. I didn't know if you saw that. I think it was Grace Randolph did a review that was like, this has got no Easter eggs in it and it's boring or whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:04 I don't know what she said, but it was the criticism was there's not enough Easter eggs, but that to me is a strength. I think the fact that this doesn't really rely on anything outside of Andorra we've seen. There's a few like Mon Mothma shows up and a few other bits and pieces, but it's very separate. There's no sand planet. You're not like, oh, look, it's a lightsaber and a whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Is there a planet of pale British men? Yeah, there's a lot of that. That's what I like. That's what I like from the original. Yeah, it feels like if you, I think if people are- If I made a Star Wars? If you made a Star Wars but you actually managed to pull it off and make it good, I think this could be it.
Starting point is 01:31:38 But I think also- I'm halfway there. Tony Gilroy. Yes. I don't think he, who came in to redo most of Rogue One or whatever he did, I don't think he likes Star Wars. And I think that's good. Like Harrison Ford.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Like Harrison Ford. I think it's because he's made this narrative, which again, for the most part, is interesting and self-contained. All leads into Rogue One. So not like Star Wars. Well, no, it doesn't rely on like, when's Obi-Wan going to meet whatever. And again, I thought Obi-Wan was all right. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:32:07 But I also think that if you grew up with Star Wars and you want an adult Star Wars and you're sick of like, you know, Star Wars is for kids. So this isn't my complaint. But if you're looking for something that's more adult, this is, I mean, it's still Star Wars, but this is that. It also feels like the narrative has like purpose and a point, like you can see where it's going. Apparently it was going to be five seasons.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Five seasons? Five seasons, five years leading up to Rogue One. But the guy who, what's his name? Because Cassian Andor. Diego Luna was like, I'll kill myself if I do five years. So they're like, we'll do two seasons. So they're moving everything ahead. It doesn't feel like it's condensed. Again, I've kill myself if I do five years. So they're like, we'll do two seasons. So they're moving everything ahead. It doesn't feel like it's condensed. Again, I've only seen four.
Starting point is 01:32:49 But it feels like a storyteller or a set of storytellers who have an idea of what they want to do. And this doesn't feel also like a knee-jerk reaction to the previous thing that upset people or it's filled with fan expectation because I don't want a prequel to Rogue One. I don't even like this era like i'm sick of it yeah but just seeing a lot of the behind the scenes stuff and you visit mon mothma and it's like oh an easter egg yeah but it's like no but it's like you see her before she you know she's open cassie and you've got to protect this yoda egg
Starting point is 01:33:19 it'll turn into a grogu but like like Mon Mothma, you see her. I guess I will. In her day-to-day life and it's like, oh, so this is before she was openly like rebelling and people are watching her. Like people know. And you see like the Empire spy network and how that works and all the bureaucracy.
Starting point is 01:33:39 There's like a private security force in it, which is like a rung below the Empire. Yeah, right. We're just like people. Oh, like our cops, our Star Wars cops. Yeah, they rent to cops basically, and they're just like a bunch of like people who don't give a shit or social climbers or whatever.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Yeah, right. So the dynamic of that was really interesting. Stellan Skarsgård is like a really fascinating character as well. With a haircut change it seems at some point. I'm not going to tell youård is like a really fascinating character as well. With a haircut change, it seems, at some point. I'm not going to tell you. There is. I won't get into that. Dramatic.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Does he get dumped? Yeah, he gets dumped. Does he cut his hair? He gets bangs? Yeah, look, I don't want to talk it up too much because I think also if you're sick of Star Wars, if you hate Star Wars, if you hate Star Wars Disney, I can't imagine any of this is going to sway anybody.
Starting point is 01:34:23 But I kind of hate Star Wars. Yeah. Maybe I'll enjoy it. It sounds of this is going to sway anybody. But I kind of hate Star Wars. Yeah, but I... Maybe I'll enjoy it. It sounds like I'm going to enjoy this. Now, does the narrative suffer at any point because we know that the main character at some point is going to be absolutely torn into his component atoms
Starting point is 01:34:36 by a Death Star super laser? No, I think he's good and it's fine. Also, I think for clarity's sake, this is my social media reaction as opposed to an actual review. Oh, for embargo purposes. Yeah, this is my social media reaction as opposed to an actual review. Oh, for embargo purposes. Yeah, this is not a review. Does that work? What a fine line.
Starting point is 01:34:51 I don't know. It sounds like we're going to get blacklisted from yet another distribution service, James. James. Anyway, so that's first three are out this week, which is good. I think if they had have done one, it's not enough. Like three is good.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Three really gets me. You're going to spend this entire week swanning about being like, oh, but you never know what's going to happen in episode four. I am going to do that, yeah. Insufferable. Anyway, are you going to watch it? Yeah. Yeah, I think I will.
Starting point is 01:35:18 It looks fun. Cool. Anything else? That's the whole thing, I think. Of the show? No. Mason, let's do more show. Okay, let's do more show.
Starting point is 01:35:24 For example, we could do a segment called Letters. Okay. And I've got a theme song for Let mason let's do more show okay let's do more show for example we could do a segment called letters okay and i've got a theme song for letters let's do it might run right now the classic one was letters oh letters we love you some letters they're only a day away let us do be here right now mason. Letters do be here right now. If you do want to send a letter to the show, you can hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. Did we get an absolute bevy of emails this week, Mason?
Starting point is 01:35:57 We got a bevy, actually. Because you had a big sook about we didn't get enough emails. We did have a big sook. Then a bunch of them were in spam. We had a big sook. This is an interesting anecdote from a person whose name we shall not reveal. Oh, yes, I did read this one, and I'm very excited for this. And she says, hello, perfect, wonderful James and Maiso.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Hello. It's me, a long-time fan of your show. I initially read that as it's a me, a long-time fan of your show. So we know this person is Italian. That's right, and that's appropriate given the subject. I also watched House of Gucci the other day. And? I liked it.
Starting point is 01:36:27 It's fun. It could be better though, right? It certainly could be better. Like, wow, what an interesting story that's not told as well as maybe it could have been. But, yeah, that's probably true. Yeah. Yeah. Jared Leto's really good in it.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Fabulous. Well, speaking of, this person says, I know month beer says long since past us, but does anything truly end? That's a terrible thing to say. I wanted to share a story with you about Jared Leto. I'm a comedian in Canada and was living and performing in Toronto when Suicide Squad, the first one, was shooting here. One night I was performing in a club when one of the staff came backstage
Starting point is 01:36:56 before the show and said, just a heads up, Jared Leto is in the audience. Try not to single him out. We're all very excited because maybe we'd meet this famous, handsome celebrity man. When the show began, he whipped off his toque, aka beanie if you speak American, to reveal he had acid green hair. Then he would listen for a joke, wait for the laughter to die down,
Starting point is 01:37:14 and then shriek, rah-ha-ha-ha-ha, almost as though he was mocking the audience for laughing. This ding-dong was in character as the Joker, going full method for a role when he would inevitably only be on screen for 11 seconds. It was completely pulling focus, making the show super awkward. We weren't allowed to say anything or kick him out, so he just ruined the show for a full hour and a half.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Many Toronto comedians have stories like this one. An hour and a half. We sit around telling stories about it at parties and events like that one episode of the Batman the Animated Series where all the kids are telling stories about Batman, except we're telling a story about a guy who sucks. Sorry if the story was long. Happy month of the year, gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:37:48 That's hardly the longest story we've ever been sent. Oh, very true. Fascinating. And I appreciate that it has been broken up into paragraphs as opposed to just one long run on sentences. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't also have to be like the paragraph doesn't even have to make sense.
Starting point is 01:38:00 But if you could just space about. Yeah, that'd be great. I appreciate that. Fascinating stuff. You went full method. Yeah. And there's nothing i appreciate more definitely than jared leto just yes why is he why is he like that it's a great question i'm gonna tweet here mason from jc fox who says hashtag weekly planet pod we need more details on this, please and thank you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:26 And you might be like, what's that in relation to? There's a clip from Round the Twist that went viral this week. So Round the Twist, if you don't know, was a children's television show. It was based off the short stories and work of Australian kids author Paul Jennings. And it was like spooky and strange happenings to these kids who lived in a lighthouse.
Starting point is 01:38:47 And some of them were terrifying. And this particular one was a scarecrow coming to life. And you see its tongue under the scarecrow, the hay, and it pulls the scarecrow stick out of its back and it chases a girl in a clown costume. I remember seeing that as a kid and just being like, why would you make this? This is the worst thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:39:07 I hate this. It's terrifying. There's a lot of that. There's an episode where there's so many seagulls that their house gets pooped in by birds. It's like snow, but it's bird poop. There's an episode where a kid eats a bunch of snails and you see it on screen.
Starting point is 01:39:20 There's an episode where a ghost, they go into a spooky car place and they steal a skull and they get it from a ghost. Do you remember this shit? Yeah, I do remember. Horrifying. And it wasn't like Goosebumps where it's like ha ha, there's a werewolf and whatever. Isn't this fun? It's like horrifying imagery. Terrifying.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Spooky stuff. But I guess the idea was they're like, we'll leave you alone in this coastal town and just make one of these every week and we don't care what's in it. It was very hands off. I've talked about it. I actually went down that way recently. But I've been to that lighthouse and I did the tour.
Starting point is 01:39:53 But the lighthouse, it's not the same on the inside. And I was very disappointed. And I hated it. It was a boring Life Now Lighthouse tour. It was like this is where they changed the light, and I'm like, is it? All right, let's go. What else have you got, Mason?
Starting point is 01:40:08 Here's an email, and I noted this down earlier because I think we should watch this and talk about it. Okay. This is from Matt. Matt. Hello, lads. Welcome back. After your time off, you were missed.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Thanks, man. Since you've taken the lazy route of asking your loyal listeners to suggest content for your show, I figured I'd suggest Michael Flatley's Blackbird. Did you say this, James? Michael Flatley? The dancer? Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:30 I think you should watch the trailer for this, James. Okay. I think you should maybe pause and watch the trailer for this. I'll not do it live? Oh, we can do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, right. Michael.
Starting point is 01:40:40 You can just put in Blackbird trailer, I reckon. Oh, yeah, I got it. So this is a- Do you want to see it or can I just- No, you can watch it. I want reckon. Oh, yeah, I got it. So this is a... Do you want to see it or can I just... No, you can watch it. I want to see your reaction, if I'm honest. Is he an actor? No.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Okay. Minute and a half. Is today the day you wish to confess your sins? Not today. My sins are my own. Dance Lord pictures Love that Eric Roberts It's ticking all the boxes, right?
Starting point is 01:41:25 Yeah. Is he an assassin? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Okay. He's not going to get past it. Oh, kissing. I believe you have something in mind. The way I was not a very concerned. And what I do is out of your control.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Always do an action. Bless me, Father, for I have sinned. Nice. And I'm about to sin again. What is this? It's a vanity project, James. It's like his James Bond, like, taken. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:42:33 I was waiting for, like, what is this, an ad for? Looks like an ad for a car or something, doesn't it? Or a mobile phone service or something. But it's a movie which seems to be. Ex-MI6 operative. What seems to have happened here is he's decided he wants a role in a movie where he, it is a movie, I believe. How old is he?
Starting point is 01:42:55 60. He's 60, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a movie that is starring, is written, directed and produced by Michael Flatley. And if you don't recognise the name, it is because he is a – oh, it's from 2018. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Oh, it's out. It's out, but it seems to have gotten a rush of – 13% Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, yeah. It got kind of a – it went unannounced for years and then it got like this rush on social media all of a sudden. He wrote and directed it. He wrote, directed and produced it.
Starting point is 01:43:24 I mean, I know you said that, but like. He starred in it and he seems to be, it's a movie where he is sort of a combination of James Bond and Humphrey Bogart's character in Casablanca. Oh, okay. He's a spy but he also owns a bar and I think he paid for it himself. Yeah. And it looks fascinating, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:43:45 So this is a review from Marianne Johnson. It says, long rumoured, long threatened, writer, director, producer, star, flatly self-financed, pablum, pablum opus. Pablum, yes. What does that mean? Like not magnum? No, not magnum.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Like pablum, like just like. Like Pablum Picasso? Yeah, like Pablum Picasso, a real work of art. It's like mush, I think. It's baffling and hilariously awful that exists only because an incredibly rich man has money to burn. It does feel like I was waiting for it to take a turn also into like Saturday Night Live where he's like,
Starting point is 01:44:21 you don't know like what I do. And then he's dancing. I was waiting for that turn like it was just going to be a comedy. Did you like his cocked hat? In every scene he had a cocked hat. He's in the rain and he's by a grave. Yeah. But in every scene a different cocked hat.
Starting point is 01:44:35 It's fascinating. And what fascinates me about this is he's, I assume he has so much money. Because people loved him. In the 90s, he was everywhere. He was everywhere. If you had that amount of money, you could do James Bond things. You could do like Tom Cruise stuff. You could learn to fly a plane.
Starting point is 01:44:55 You could learn martial arts. You could do rock climbing and stunt things. And you could fire guns. And you could put on a tuxedo and fly to Monaco and go to a casino and, you know, gamble a bunch of money and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. But instead you've decided to do this.
Starting point is 01:45:15 I'm going to just read the Wikipedia. Okay, great. Because I think there might be some answers to what you're talking about. So Blackbird was dismissed by a vanity project. Brian Lloyd, an entertainment journalist, compared it to Tommy Wiseau's The Room. The first screening was in June of 2018, a private shine for cast and crew at the Stella Cinema, etc.
Starting point is 01:45:33 In 2018, Flatley also claimed to be in pre-production on Blackbird 2. Nice. However, there has never been a general release of Blackbird, fueling speculation about the film's quality. In 2019, Brian Lloyd of Entertainment, i.e., wrote a lengthy investigation into the film, finding out that over 200 people attended the screening,
Starting point is 01:45:49 and as far as it can reasonably, it can be reasonably determined, none of them were journalists or critics. When asked if perhaps the jury of Raindance Film Festival had seen Blackbird, says that this did not take place. A general film released to Irish cinemas has been announced for September 2nd, 2022, and it premiered in August 2022 of the Lighthouse Cinema in Dublin. So it has just come out.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Oh, they made it in 2018. Yeah, so the trailer and all that and the announcements are from years back. Okay, so people have been waiting for years to figure it, to learn what kind of amazing mobile phone plan details they'll be getting on incredible deals. Flatly's shows have paid for more than 60 million people in 60 countries and have grossed more than a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:46:32 So yeah, it says he's worth $350 million. And what's that, a $20 million movie maybe? I reckon he, yeah, maybe. It's pretty generous. Yeah, yeah. $20 million. Yeah. God, I want to watch it.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Do you want to watch it? I do want to watch it, yeah. Mason, we should both. It's pretty generous. Yeah, yeah. $20 million. Yeah. God, I want to watch it. Do you want to watch it? I do want to watch it, yeah. Mason, we should both watch it for next week. It does go for 90 minutes, so that's exactly 90 minutes. That is the perfect action movie running time. Is he an actor? No. I know I said that before, but like.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Unless he's been in like a Midsommar Murders or something. Yeah, I mean, I know his face, so I but like. Unless he's been in like a Midsummer Murders or something. Yeah, I mean, I know his face, so I feel like I would have seen him in something. Riverdance, Lord of the Dance, Feet of Flames. Yep. Celtic Tiger. Television performances, Return to the Stage. Oh, very good. A flute album.
Starting point is 01:47:18 A Night to Remember, Dangerous Games. Injuries, Farewell to a Retirement. Trump Inauguration. What? He introduced his troupe for a performance at the inauguration of Donald Trump. Flatley called it a great honour. In 2018, Flatley wrote, directed and financed and starred
Starting point is 01:47:32 in Blackbird. Painting? No, there's no other acting in here. Here we go. As November 2018, pre-production work has already begun on Flatley's second film titled Dream Dance. Wow, wow, wow. Set in Hollywood during the outbreak of World War II.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Wow. Blackbird premiered and blah, blah, blah. Okay, well, that's great stuff. This guy does paintings. This guy does it all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the only thing he does well is dancing, but this is incredible. Love it.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Big fan. Right? Yeah, we should watch that for something. I don't know. Not for us, personally. No, no, no, no, no. You know, 10, 15 years ago, we would have. We would absolutely watch this, yeah. Yeah. And just for us. No, no, no, no, no. You know, 10, 15 years ago we would have. We would absolutely watch this, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:08 And just for us. A lot of people, maybe they don't know that, but this, what we do, we already did this. That's true. We've been doing this for 20 odd years. Do you think there's any references to river dancing in it? I don't know. Great question.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Like a pair of shoes that he hangs up or in the cupboard. Or like somebody shoots at him and he does a tiny little river dance together. I would love to see what kind of action Flatley's putting on screen, you know? Yeah, yeah. Great stuff. God. He's had, like, you can see also the face is like he's had the surgery and the thing and the more like that, which is fine.
Starting point is 01:48:41 Like, I'm not against plastic surgery. I would 100% get plastic surgery. And I will. I'm going to do it after the show. You should. I'm not against plastic surgery. I would 100% get plastic surgery and I will. I'm going to do it after the show. You should. I should. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and look, it's like half past 10, but I reckon if we ring around, we could probably,
Starting point is 01:48:55 it's kind of imperative you get that surgery. I could get it somewhere. Yeah, I think you can get it somewhere. Yeah, yeah. There's got to be a 24-hour emergency plastic surgery place for your particular issue. Yes, yes, yes. You got any others?
Starting point is 01:49:05 Just a couple more. Just a couple of thank yous. This is from Michael. Michael. He says, over this past year and a half, I've had the worst luck, got into a car accident, had trouble with Dr. Bills for a while, had to get a lot of dental work done, and my mental health has plummeted. However, listening to your podcast and watching Caravan of Garbage
Starting point is 01:49:18 has helped me cheer up and laugh so much. Thank you for everything you do. Thank you for everything you've done. You're very welcome, Michael. I can see your photo. You've got a cheeky smile there. Let me see this cheeky smile. It's a bit of a cheeky smile.
Starting point is 01:49:30 That's too cheeky. But you know, it's good. It is good. You've got to keep that cheek about you, don't you? That's right. It's good stuff. No, I'm glad you're doing well despite all those things. That's excellent.
Starting point is 01:49:42 This is from Script John, who we've heard from before. Too Many Servings of John, you might recognise. Oh, yes, of course. So thoughts, and he wrote in relation to this. So Red Day, John Page and Glenn Powell will star in a remake of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Yeah. That's a movie very close to your heart.
Starting point is 01:49:59 I love that movie. We'll produce. Now, there's also a sequel movie. Oh, no, it's a prequel. It's like they recast it all. Apparently it's not very good. But it's called like The Early Adventures of Sundance and whatever. Okay, Will Produce. Now, there's also a sequel movie. Oh, no, it's a prequel. It's like they recast it all. Apparently it's not very good. But it's called like The Early Adventures of Sundance and whatever. Okay, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Further details. Butch and Sundance babies. That's right. Further details of its plot are still being kept under wraps. But it reportedly takes place in an alternate reality similar to the one in the Prime video series Man in the High Castle. So where they live? These guys, they live. Wait, who lives in the – isn't the Man in the High Castle. So where they live, these guys, they live.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Wait, who lives in the – isn't the Man in the High Castle universe the one where the Nazis won? The Nazis won or whatever. So Butch and Sundance are going to be in the Man in the High Castle universe. No, no, no, similar to the one. Oh, I see, right. So they – if you've seen Butch – I mean, you know, because they're famous outlaws, I guess, they don't survive.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Yes. So do you think they'd make it they do survive? Well, maybe it's like a present day where stuff is still Old West. Maybe it's 2022 but technology hasn't progressed and so it's still kind of Wild West. Maybe that's what they're talking about. Or maybe it's like maybe they want to modernize this concept. So they're like, okay, we want to butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid,
Starting point is 01:51:08 but they're robbing banks in bloody modern day. They're using credit cards. They're using credit cards. They're shooting holes in a Bitcoin. Credit cards. They're shooting holes in credit cards. Yes, that's right. They're shooting up a coal supermarket.
Starting point is 01:51:20 My initial thought for this, though, was like. They're going to Red Rooster. They're like, give us all the chicken in the attic. We know it's there. Give us all the good chicken. My initial thoughts was, I hate the idea of this. But then looking into it and who's in it, whatever.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Yeah, why not? Give another run at it. It won't take away from the original movie, probably. And as I said, there's already a prequel or something, I think. That's right. It's called Butch and Sundance, the early years or something. Anyways, is that the end of the show? I think that's the end of the whole show. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the show.
Starting point is 01:51:52 We're back, baby. We thought people wouldn't come back. It's true. But they've come back. The early days, it's called. Peter Weller's in it. Oh, I love that Peter Weller. Yeah, I was worried because the first Caravan of Garbage video we came up,
Starting point is 01:52:02 it was, they tell you, did I tell you this? I think you mentioned this last episode actually. Oh, yeah. It was bad news. But now we're back, baby. That's right. Folks, thank you so much for sticking around. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Thank you for subscribing to the podcast. Thank you for leaving a five-star review, which is how other people find the podcast because when you leave a five-star review, your podcast catcher of choice is like, you want to listen to The Weekend Planet? You want that? Telling a friend also helps as well. That's right.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Like you said, it's all good, isn't it? Yes. I've got some here, Mason. It's from Calimaker211 who says, Fine, James, you win. After six years of listening to your show, James finally broke me down enough to review it in app. That's true.
Starting point is 01:52:39 You can review it in app. It's so easy, whatever you're listening to it on now. This is the first ever podcast I've listened to and it's still my favorite podcast to this day. Keep up the great work, mates. Cheers! And there's two beer emojis. And this one's also five stars. Or is it one beer emoji and they cling together? Oh, great question.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Yeah, no, it's two. It's two, you know how they cheers? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're together, but there's two of those. Oh! So it's four beers in total. Oh, we've got two beers each. That's right! Hell yeah. Double fisting, baby. That's right. This one's from DustyLover73.
Starting point is 01:53:08 He says, five stars, dusty, and then says, just a bit dusty. Not bad. We'll take that. We'll take it. James, those five-star reviews will keep us warm as we sail the seas of content on the ship we're still on. The ship of content. I remembered it from earlier.
Starting point is 01:53:22 We're on the ship. The great ship content. Great. We've dumped all the content on the shores for the people. I hope everybody's seen it. All the people have come out from their village and they're like, yeah, you've done it. Now go and get more content.
Starting point is 01:53:34 Oh. Can we stay and can we enjoy it? No, we just need more. You're pariahs from the village. You know what you did. Just get us more content. You grubs, get out of here. It's our life.
Starting point is 01:53:49 It is. That's what we do. But if you want to get into contact with us. And we're on horses. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Okay. Folks, if you want to get into contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at Gmail, at Facebook, at Twitter, at Bandcamp. You can go to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group. You can go to the Weekly Planet Pod subreddit and Discord. Wow. If you want to follow some people on social media, you can follow our friend Rob Collings.
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Starting point is 01:54:55 We'd come back with weapons of war. Oh, no. Yes, Mason. No, James. Yes. Wow. Don't you think? Yeah, I reckon probably.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, actually, now that I think about it, yeah. Like a sick cannon or whatever. Exactly, like a sick cannon or whatever. Like one of those cannonballs, but it's a bunch of cannonballs, but it's connected with a big chain. Yeah, it just whips through it. You're firing it, swinging it around. Yeah, that's so cool.
Starting point is 01:55:16 That's right. Here's some content for you. Yeah. Bam. You're dead. That's right. Running with a knife in the teeth. Apparently that weird album movie.
Starting point is 01:55:24 For the look, I wouldn't light it. No. Remember Will Smith? I do, I do, I do. I wouldn't actually stab anybody with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or if you're a big, big, big time spender, you can go to BigSandwich.co.
Starting point is 01:55:39 This is where it's at. $9 per month. We've got all sorts of bonus podcasts, movie commentaries, as we mentioned, Captain America, Superman comic book, all sorts of bonus stuff. That's coming up soon. That's not out this week. We've got to record it after at. $9 per month. We've got all sorts of bonus podcasts, movie commentaries, as we mentioned, Captain America, Superman comic book, all sorts of bonus stuff. That's coming up soon.
Starting point is 01:55:48 That's not out this week. We've got to record it after this. Yes, and there's a huge back catalogue. That's right. A bunch of stuff. Caravan of Garbage wraps up The Hobbit
Starting point is 01:55:55 this week. That's right. So I'm glad that's over. Bit of a long one, I'll tell you that much. Well, because for those who, you know, peep behind the curtain,
Starting point is 01:56:04 we recorded two of those before we went on break. Yes, that's right. And the third one was after. So it just felt like it was always in the back of my mind. It felt like an unexpected journey of some sort. It certainly did. A real desolation of Smaug. Yep.
Starting point is 01:56:17 A real. Five armies. Yes. Yes. Nice. Five guys. Like the White Stripes song. That's right.
Starting point is 01:56:23 There's a five guys burger in Melbourne now. Do you have to line up forever for a Five Guys burger? I don't know. I haven't been yet, but I will. Tell me how it is and then I'll know. Okay, great. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 01:56:33 We'll both get it for next week. You son of a bitch. What's the – oh, yeah. If you want to support the show, you can also go to tpublic.com. Let's search for the weekly planet base of a T-shirt. A T-shirt? Supports us in some very negligible way. Yeah, we don't know. But also thank you to
Starting point is 01:56:47 the Brute and the Basilisk and Rackham Pro Musical Themes. Next week, Michael Flatley's Blackbird. And then Snake Eyes. And Snake Eyes, that's right. And maybe I'll finish Pinocchio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. I don't know what we're doing next week yet, actually. Maybe League of Super Pets because it's only just come out here. Primo stuff. Does anybody care about League of Super Pets because it's only just come out here. Primo stuff. Does anybody care about
Starting point is 01:57:05 League of Super Pets? Maybe we will when we watch it. It's pretty good. I think I'm going to go this week because it's school holidays and I'll take my son. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:11 But maybe we'll go back into cinemas and see Avatar again. Probably not though. Alright, thanks everybody. Grab that jam you guys. We will see you next week. Goodbye.
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