The Weekly Planet - 453 James Gunn Takes Over DC & HALLOWEEN SPOOKY TIMES BOO

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

This week, it being the spookiest time of the year (and I'm not just talking about tax time) we talk Barbarian, Bodies Bodies Bodies and The Stranger. Plus we get into James Gunn taking over at DC Fil...ms, trailers for Ant-Man 3 and Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special, a new/old Doctor Who and more! Thanks for listening.Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.00:00 The Start03:35 The Vision MCU Series07:32 Matt Perry vs Keanu Reeves13:00 Black Panther Wakanda Forever First Reactions14:43 Ant Man and The Wasp Quantumania Trailer23:33 Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special Trailer26:41 New Dr Who Casting and Disney Plus35:43 Henry Cavill's The Witcher Recast42:48 Another Star Wars Sequel Movie46:16 Green Lantern Series Shake-Up48:19 DC Finally Find Their Kevin Feige53:06 The DC Cinematic Universe?55:40 Spooky Movies Reviews56:56 Bodies, Bodies, Bodies (spoilers 01:03:37 to 01:05:49)01:05:49 The Stranger (spoilers 01:10:40 to 01:17:33)01:17:33 Barbarian (spoilers 01:22:49 to 01:34:27)01:34:27 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:43:10 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:12 My name is James and with me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. Hello, good to be here, James. What's going on? Leap. Oh, okay. We're robots, are we? Could we sustain it? I think we could.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I don't want to. I mean, you can. But I won't go along with it. I won't veto it. I won't stop you. Okay, right, right. So I have to know now if I want to commit to this bit. And I don't.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Great. Terrific. I don't. This is the kind of energy a 6.10 p.m. recording brings to it. That's right. We've never recorded at 6.10 p.m. before probably, to the best of my knowledge. I can't even imagine doing such a thing.
Starting point is 00:01:47 What an absolute wild west of a recording time because normally we either record, I think maybe I've mentioned this, quite early in the day when my brain isn't working or quite late in the night when your brain isn't working. And you'll see that like evolve over the episode. That's right. Yeah. And so now this time period is either we're both firing
Starting point is 00:02:04 on all cylinders or we're both firing on all cylinders or we're both done. Let's find out. Or not even started. Let's do it. It's good to record early, though, when it's still a bit of sunshine, Mason, because, of course, it is the spookiest time of the year, and I'm not just talking about tax time.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Go on. If you don't mind me saying so, for the last time. Thank you once again for the bit that you do. Let's call it a bit because I did think about it earlier in the week and do my taxes. Thank you. You're very welcome. Of course, this is our Hell Screams, Spooktacular, Scary,
Starting point is 00:02:31 Big Ghosts and Spiders Forever episode where we go through some spooky stuff. We've picked three spooky movies, which we'll be talking about if people do want to jump to the time codes. Spooky movies, Jack? Spooky movies. I was thinking about this earlier. What were you thinking? What were you thinking, Mason?
Starting point is 00:02:47 I feel like that's going to be my expression of surprise just going forward. Just for anything. You know, jinkies. Mine's spooky movies, James. For anything, though. Yeah, for anything. Great.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I love this. It's better than your robot thing, which was my thing. That was your thing, yeah. Great. But in addition to that, Mason, there's a bunch of news this week. It was a big news week, but you had something else to say? No, I'm just going to road test my catchphrase while we do this. So I hope some of this news is shocking to me.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Okay, great. And I'll put it in a sentence, obviously. The Vision might be getting a spinoff. Spooky movies, James. The Vision's getting a spinoff. Yeah, so that's the sentence you've got to go with, is it? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:22 First Black Panther Forever reactions. Wakanda Forever reactions. Spooky movies. Spooky movies, yep. Trailers ahoy. Big trailers this week. sentence you gotta go yeah is it okay uh first black panther forever reactions wakanda forever reactions spooky movies yep trailers ahoy big trailers this week for guardians of the galaxy christmas special ant-man and uh some doctor who stuff oh yeah there's a big recast over at the witcher who is it which who's recast the witcher the main person yeah which is uh he has a name but we don't know what it is yeah geralt Geralt of Oblivion or something. I meant the actor's name, not a name. Oh, no. It's the same, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Star Wars news. Terrific. Because there's going to be a new Star Wars movie. I like it. Another thing where- There's going to be a new Star Wars movie in this day and age? Yeah, but also there's the news of like stop announcing Star Wars movies because they're not coming out.
Starting point is 00:03:58 You keep announcing Star Wars movies and they keep getting cancelled. So this announcement of a new Star Wars movie, they have to be pretty confident this one's going to come out. Well, technically it's an announcement because it came via a different source. Did we get a new Star Wars movie, they have to be pretty confident this one's going to come out. Well, technically it's not an announcement because it came via a different source. Did we get another new Star Wars thing this week? Yes. Tales of the Jedi.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'm going to talk about it in what we're reading because I quite enjoyed it. There's also news on the Green Lantern series and some movements over at DC because they have found their Kevin Feige. That's right. So very excited for that, Mason. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And it's two people. I guess you need to, Mason. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. All right, let's get into it. Time codes's two people. I guess you need to, Mason. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. All right, let's get into it. Time codes below as mentioned. Thank you to Collins for the edit. The Vision.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Last time we saw The Vision in WandaVision, he turned into a white guy. Correct. And then he flew off. And there was another guy who was a constructive. He didn't turn into a white guy. He was always a white guy. Paul Bettany.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah, that's true. But I mean as in like it was the white Vision. Oh, yes. And he was like, I'm a ship of Theseus, and he flew off or whatever. That's right. And then there was the other one who was like. I'm the ship of Theseus, later losers. And then there's the one, the construct one that Wanda made
Starting point is 00:04:55 who got obliterated and whatever. Maybe I'm the ship of Theseus too. Wow, I remember that. It was really touching actually. So many touching lasers. So Jeff Snyder has said, I'm told that next week Marvel will be opening a writer's room for the Vision show titled Vision Quest
Starting point is 00:05:14 and Deadline are reporting that the series will focus on Vision trying to regain his memory and humanity and that Elizabeth Olsen's Wanda Maximoff could appear. She'll still be crushed under that collapsing temple or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe he'll have it. Just to cut back to it maybe every second episode. I can't move my hands to the magic.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. I could easily escape this if I had hands to use magic. I've been smashed. Yeah, I've been smashed real bad. Like Doctor Strange. I get it. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's a parallel.
Starting point is 00:05:41 All right. I get it. I get it. Doesn't help me, but I get it. What do you think? Great. Okay, good. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Love it. I thought he was going to appear in the movie, and he didn't, and he's a good character, and I know Paul Bettany loves putting on all that makeup and then made a CGI over him anyway. I know he loves that. And in action figure news, somehow my action figure, somehow my Twitter feed has decided you like looking at new release action figures. I think it might decide another thing from this week on though, Mason. Somehow my action figure, somehow my Twitter feed has decided, you like looking at new release action figures? I think it might decide another thing from this week on though, Mason.
Starting point is 00:06:09 What is it? Let this sink in. Oh, that is good. That's good stuff. Yeah. That is funny good stuff. That's what I said. But there's a Wonder Man action figure.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Oh, yeah. On the Marvel Legends Wonder Man action figure. It's the one where he's wearing a big red safari jacket. And I'm like, okay, are they testing the waters once again? Who knows? Like you said with Galactus last week, right? I saw big Galactus. I mean, none of these have come to fruition yet,
Starting point is 00:06:29 so maybe this is all rampant speculation. It is. But in the comic books, Vision gets some of his personality from Wonder Man. Right. From his engrams, his mental engrams. Is that like a laser? Yeah, it's a laser.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Okay. Yeah. So you just shoot some personality into somebody else? You shoot your personality. It's like burning a CD. Yeah, or having a laser. Okay. Yeah. So you just shoot some personality into somebody else? You shoot your personality. It's like burning a CD. Yeah, or having a child. You shoot your personality into somebody. James James James.
Starting point is 00:06:51 No? No. No? I don't think, no. The DNA. Yeah, sure, man. It's just much of DNA shooting at each other, making a personality. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And then they grow up with you and you shoot more personality at them. Uh-huh, sure. Not literally, Mason. Oh. Not in a terrifying sense. Seems terrifying. Just like you're crafting young minds and you hope you shoot more personality at them. Uh-huh, sure. Not literally, Mason. Oh. Not in a terrifying sense. Seems terrifying. Just like you're crafting young minds and you hope them to be the best people they can be. Spooky movies, James.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You're going too far, all right? Spooky movies, mate. I see why that works now, actually. But potentially, maybe we'll get a Wonder Man casting out of this. I mean, they've got to fill it with Easter eggs and references, don't they? It's a series, isn't it? We've talked about this, where they're casting it for something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And it was going to be Nathan Fillion, but then I think they just wiped all of that. They aged him out and they were like. Or something. And they just memory holed Nathan Fillion. He does not exist. Another role that Nathan Fillion has aged out of. Nathan Drake.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Wonder Man. Castle. Castle. The guy from Firefly. Yeah, doing another Firefly. Yeah. That's it. Those are all the things. Captain Hammer. Captain Hammer. Thank you. There you go. So, doing another Firefly. Yeah. That's it. Those are all the things.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Captain Hammer. Captain Hammer. Thank you. There you go. So, yeah, I would love to see a Vision series. He can be old Captain Hammer. He looks great. He does look great.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's true. It's his secret. He's rich. Mason. He looked good before he was rich. Oh, but then he was young. Yeah, he was young. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It's one or the other, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Or both. Yeah. That's the Hollywood trajectory. Hope to acquire enough money to look young forever before you get too old. Before you get too old, exactly. And you've got to age like a fine wine.
Starting point is 00:08:12 You've got to age like a fine wine. Exactly. Someone with too many hats and rings. Yeah. Who knows who that is? Could be anyone. Speaking of, or not speaking of, Unrelated, From Hell This Week for Caravan of Garbage. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Very excited for that. We're doing an Alan Moore-a-thon. Yeah. We're doing all these movies that we haven't covered. That's right. Very excited for that. We're doing an Alan Moore-a-thon. Yeah. We're doing all his movies that we haven't covered. That's right. Hayden Doozy's in there. Speaking of actors from the 90s who are out of touch, did you see this this week?
Starting point is 00:08:33 This is from Variety. Here's one bit of news. Matthew Perry takes aim at Keanu Reeves. I did see this. Why is Heath Ledger dead but Reeves still walks among us? Look, as someone who said similar things in jest. Sure, yes. That may have nearly gotten me in some hot water. Oh, sure. I like to think that it's a joke, right? still walks among us look incredible as someone who said similar things in jest sure yes that may have nearly gotten me in some hot water oh sure i like to think that it's a joke right i think well
Starting point is 00:08:51 here's the update for this i mean it's not a great thing to say if we can head it off at the past here's the update from matthew perry he issued an apology he said i'm actually a big fan of kianu i just chose a random name my mistake i apologize I should have used my own name instead. So basically Matthew Perry released Friends fame and other stuff. Yeah. West Wing? Was he in the West Wing? I don't know. He was in Studio 60 on the Sunset Trail.
Starting point is 00:09:13 He was in Scrubs. He was in the other 30 Rock. Oh, the other 30 Rock. I didn't see that one. Okay, no, no. No? Just no? Just no.
Starting point is 00:09:19 All right, I won't. Right. He basically plays like a guy who's always – he plays a guy who single-handedly writes like an SNL-style show. Okay. And he's just always the funniest and always the best. I think that's him. That sounds amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:30 It does sound amazing, doesn't it? That sounds like a character I can relate to. So he wrote a memoir called Friends, Lovers, and the Big Terrible Thing, including many revelations. And he had to exit a movie after his heart stopped for five minutes. Yeah. And it cost him – he spent $9 million on rehab. He spent nine episodes of the show Friends on rehab. That's nearly a full season.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Right? Or half a season maybe. Yeah, nearly half a season. Nearly half a season of Friends. God damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But basically he said at two points in the memoir he questioned why Reeves was still alive when talented actors and original thinkers like River Phoenix and Chris Far chris farley had tragic deaths and we've talked about this off air i think what
Starting point is 00:10:10 happened is he's a guy who's like many years behind the the cultural eight ball yeah well he's like mid-50s and he's not in the public eye and he's kind of you know he he got a million dollars an episode they all the friends got a million dollars an episode for Friends for years. And whatever they got for the reunion. Yeah, exactly. And I think he's probably been like insulated from just public discourse and all that sort of stuff. Twitter.
Starting point is 00:10:36 No, he's on Twitter. Is he? Yeah. We probably didn't see that moment at E3 where Keanu Reeves came out and everyone went, we fucking love this guy now. Exactly right. He wasn't in the crowd when Keanu was like, you're beautiful and you're beautiful.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And Matthew Perry's been like, what, am I not beautiful? Don't you reckon, though, when Keanu was saying that, that's crazy because Keanu would have been the most beautiful in the room. Like that's just him being nice. Indisputably. That's him being nice, right? Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Because it would have been weird if he was like, you're all right. I'm obviously better looking. I'm better looking than you. I'm better looking than you. I'm better looking than you. I'm better looking than you. I'm much better looking than you by a long way. Jesus. And now we've done everyone in the room.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I'm fitter than you. I'm fitter than you. I'm fitter than you. I'm fitter than you. I'm richer than you. I'm richer than you. I'm richer than you. I'm better at riding a motorcycle than you.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Oh, that's a big gamble though, isn't it? he's had a lot of time yeah yeah yeah and he's rich anyway what i think happened here is is that what i think has happened is he's insulated from the public discourse but also importantly apparently he didn't have a ghostwriter for this memoir. He wrote it all himself. And 100% an editor saw that and went, I could tell him to take this out. Yeah. But this will get a lot of headlines. I didn't know this book was coming out. Otherwise this will be completely gone out of the news cycle in 24 hours. It'll be like a Netflix movie or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:02 People will talk about it for one scroll of Twitter. Except for Red Notice. Exactly, which we're currently watching now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We should have more screens. We should have a screen on the roof. I want one behind you. Just in case I fall.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And one behind me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be falling. Well, I can look up and still be watching Red Notice. Yeah, good point. And I think they went, this will get some headlines. They'll talk about it on the Weekly Planet podcast, they would say. Big shot Hollywood editors.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Big shot Hollywood book editors would say. That's what they say. That's right. Do you, well, as mentioned, I didn't know he had a book out, so it's obviously. Worked on us. Worked on us, and now I'm definitely going to buy that book because that's what I do.
Starting point is 00:12:38 That's right. I buy books of people who are in things. I was joking, Mason. I don't do that because I don't. You can't read. I feel like a lot of people's lives, I'm like, you're not that interesting. And i don't i don't do that because i don't i don't know i can't read i feel like a lot of people's lives i'm like you're not that interesting and i don't mean him specifically there's a lot of stuff you mean people you know your friends and anybody there's nobody where i want to read a fall like i'll skim a wikipedia and go oh yeah that's okay but there's nobody i'd
Starting point is 00:12:58 want to read a book about that they wrote themselves kianaanu Reeves? No, I don't think he would, though. Matthew McConaughey? No. Oh, no. No. Just got a lot of folksy, like, general wisdom in there. Yeah, yeah. What if we all got along? Yeah, what if we did, Matthew? That's a fucking great idea, actually. And I've said this to you, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Maybe I mentioned it on the show. It's called Greenlights, all one word, his memoir. And I'm like, is that because you're trying to copyright the term Greenlights? Because it should be Greenlights. It should be two words. Because it's all about you see a green light and you go. You just see the signs and you go. So I'm like, it'll be two words.
Starting point is 00:13:30 But I think he wants to sell T-shirts or something. Or like bandanas. That say green lights. I mean, yeah, I'd definitely get the banana. A bedanna? Yeah, a bedazzled bandana. I'd get the banana hammock that says green lights. That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Oh, that's going to become something, isn't it? Wow, so that was your one bit of news, I assume. One bit of news. Well, have you got any more one bits of news, Mason? I bet I do have some one bits of news later. I'll be hearing it. Before you do that, though, let's talk about the first reactions to Black Panther Wakanda Forever, which is not out until next week,
Starting point is 00:14:01 around the 9th, depending on where you are in the world. And everybody loves it and was crying really hard and said it was a really touching tribute, et cetera, and so forth. You've never seen an experience like this. And it's too long. Some people are like, but it's maybe too long. Nearly three hours, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:16 But the general consensus was that, yes, it's amazing. But, you know, I know I say this every week, can't believe any of this stuff necessarily, but it's not bad news. Like when we heard the blackout and people were like, it's good, I think, it was all right. And then you know, like, okay, well, let's see. It's not bad news, but just bear in mind. Well, James, I have a reaction here that says the only thing
Starting point is 00:14:37 that I didn't like about this movie is that the Submariner's little wings constantly make that mosquito noise even when he's not on screen. Just that. I would like that actually. Oh, you reckon? That's how you know he's not on screen. Just that. I would like that actually. Oh, you reckon? That's how you know he's coming. I think that would be really immersive, yeah. Can they hear him?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah, everybody can. The characters and the actors both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The characters. So they couldn't take the sound out because they'll just do all the takes. Yeah, and everybody just twitching a little bit, looking around. I think he's somewhere, isn't he? Occasionally somebody will like do a clap in the air to try and kill him.
Starting point is 00:15:08 No, it's not a mosquito. It's the submariner. Submariner, yeah, yeah. That's how you know. I am excited for this, though, and I really hope it is good. Though we'll see. We'll find out next week. We'll see, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:20 But we'll have a different episode next week, won't we, Mason? That's correct. And we'll come back to it. So I was going to get some specific quotes, but you get it. You get it. You've seen these before. It's the best of Phase 4, et cetera. I thought I'd never.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It's the best DC movie yet. Yeah, yeah, all of that. Yeah. Anyways, I'm sorry, I'm just looking off into the distance because the Good Ship trailer is here, Mason. Trailer's ahoy, everybody. Oh, no. It's got mosquitoes on board. So it's ahoy, everybody. Oh, no. It's got mosquitoes on board.
Starting point is 00:15:47 We're going to burn it. Okay, I'm fine with that. That's right. Before we do, though, let's just talk about a couple of ones that came out, one of which being Ant-Man 3 Let's Get Quantum-fied. Which was released in both regular format trailer and also- Mason, are you going to tell me something hilarious right now? Because I need to brace myself.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Teeny Weeny trailer. Great. Pretty good, right? I didn't watch that. I saw the thumbnail and I went, yep. We get it. I get it. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah. And the view count has spoken and no one watched that either. Oh, really? I think so. I'd love to. I'm going to check that. Please. Anyway, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:16:22 I don't mean literally no one, James. I mean comparatively. I know you're saying that, but what I'm saying is I want to to check that. Please. Anyway, what do you think? I don't mean literally no one, James. I mean comparatively. I know you're saying that, but what I'm saying is I want to know the statistics. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Of it. Also, obviously Ant-Man can do Giant Man mode, so they should do a really, really big version. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And even when you go full screen, it's too big for your screen. Still got one million views on it. Just one corner of it. You have no idea what's happening. It's the ant-sized trailer, Mason, and it's got one million views. I had to unsubscribe from the Marvel thing because every time they do a premiere
Starting point is 00:16:53 they post 140 videos in a row. Interesting. Are you using hyperbole there, James? No. Okay, I'll show you. I've literally got it open. Oh, literally 140 videos, is it? Shut up, Mason. Okay, so it starts there. And so they're all Black Panther, et cetera. What's that document there?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Is that your divorce proceedings? That's my notes. Okay, right. No, the divorce is final, Mason. That's a solicitor's letter, James. Anyway, it's all of those. Okay, that's quite a lot. There we go.
Starting point is 00:17:19 It's too many. And in a feed, in a YouTube feed? Too many, I reckon. Too many, Mason. Anyway, highlights from this? Yep. People are like, this looks like Spike because we fucking hate this. That was a highlight for me.
Starting point is 00:17:28 That was a highlight. And another highlight was me spending most of the trailer going, who is this young woman? What's her whole deal? Oh, it's their daughter because they recast her. Why did they recast? I mean, it's Catherine Langford. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Is that right? Or is her name? Or am I getting Scott Langered? Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, because she was good in whoever it was before. Again, it's a name I don't know. Catherine Newton, sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Okay, right. Was good. Catherine Langer. Yeah. She was good, I thought. There was a moment where she saw her dad again and hadn't seen him for a while. Yeah, yeah. I don't understand why they – I mean, I guess they wanted a slightly bigger name,
Starting point is 00:18:01 I'm assuming, but maybe it was a scheduling thing. Maybe it was a scheduling thing. Also, Evangeline Lilly and Paul Rudd, they have the same haircut now, which I appreciate. Sure do. Which apparently you think couples start to look like each other after a while. That's true, yeah. And apparently it's a result of you mimic each other's facial expressions
Starting point is 00:18:16 so you get like the same creases and wrinkles and stuff as well. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And the same Karen haircut. And the same haircut, yeah. And the same Ant-Man suit. The same Ant-Man suit, exactly. And we also get Jonathan Majors as Kang.
Starting point is 00:18:29 That's true. It's like I've got a big blue mask. Is that mask filled with water? Because I'd love it to be. I think it's filled with that blue liquid they put combs in at the hairdresser. Oh. Yeah. Is that good for you?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Can you drink that? Apparently. Mark Bonanno did. I saw him. He's in the Auntie Donna. Oh, okay. Not him. No, you just saw him. In the Auntie Donna. Oh, okay. Not in. No, you just saw him.
Starting point is 00:18:46 You just saw him running out of a hairdresser. I mean, I bet I could catch him doing it if I followed him around for long enough. Anyway, what do we think is happening in this trailer, James? If we were to break it down. It seems like in the quantum averse, there's a big secret society in there. What have we talked about recently? Maybe a movie or something like that where we're like, maybe just over the hill, there's just a normal city?
Starting point is 00:19:07 I think Constantine maybe. Maybe. Michelle Pfeiffer's character. Yeah. She spent a lot of time in the quantum realm and she made it look an awful lot like it was some sort of jungle environment. You have to survive with your wits and a spirit. Turns out if you just go over a hill, just a pretty big city.
Starting point is 00:19:21 It's a big city. Oh, it's a little city obviously. Well, she also had a bunch of makeup on. So that's a giveaway, isn't it? That's very true. Do you think she would have had enough foundation to last 30 years in the quantum realm? No, there's a quantum realm Sephora, I guess. I'm assuming like she-
Starting point is 00:19:36 A quantum realm, another makeup company. Maybelline. Thank you, yes. It's a good one, maybe. I don't think it is. Apparently it's not very good. Well, none of them are, are they? Are they all bad?
Starting point is 00:19:46 Are they all grinding up chimpanzees? James, you know, I actually prefer a woman with no makeup on at all. Is that right? No, that's not true at all. When everybody says that, what they actually mean is they prefer a woman wearing a no makeup makeup look. Yes, that's right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah. Because otherwise it's like, you look tired. Something's different about you. I prefer a tired makeup look, actually, James. That's what I prefer. People love that. Just extra brown bags under the eyes. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 00:20:10 It's good to be at the forefront of culture, basically. Bill Murray. Yeah. That was pretty bold to put him in. Pretty bold to put him in even for a second. Yeah, it flashes by, though. Jecky's going to be one of the mayors who's like, there's no quantum entanglement, actually.
Starting point is 00:20:25 You know, he does look a lot like the mayor. At least I thought the mayor in Jaws. He was all dandified and being like, there's no problem with sharks in the waters. Ha, ha, ha. Yeah. That mayor is crazy. There was a shark.
Starting point is 00:20:37 There was a big shark. One of the biggest sharks. Multiple movies as well. That's a fucking idiot. It was also his character in 2016 Ghostbusters where he's like, there's no Ghostbusters. Oh, that's true, yeah. I'm a dandy, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I'm in a fancy saloon. That and all that, those kinds of things. I mean, it feels like tonally it's different than the last two Ant-Men. Like it's a little more serious potentially. It is, that's true, yeah. It starts of just like having a good time and then it's very quickly like, what have you done? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:21:03 And then it's, you know. That is true, yes. And then all of that. Well, I mean, the rumoured plot, one rumoured plot element too that we'd gotten earlier from this was that he's been overwhelmed with fame. He's kind of, you know, he's become, you know, a real prick. Rocky III?
Starting point is 00:21:20 Rocky III, yes. Is that the one? Yeah, but I didn't feel that at all in this. It felt like more just like, it felt more like Spider-Man 3 is walking down the street with people with finger guns. Finger guns and all that. I'm going to quickly just give it a little skim. You must find that, though, as a podcaster,
Starting point is 00:21:34 you're getting that level of attention. Yes, absolutely. You'd get it too if you left the house. Why would I? It's true. Okay, a little thing that I like there is he's been a given employee of the century over at Baskin-Robbins. Oh, that was funny.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Works not only as like a fun little callback, it also works as a product placement. Oh, incredible. Two levels there. That's right. That's something you missed. No, I know that. I know that.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Classic opening the device that sucks everybody into the quantum realm. Yep, good stuff. I just on my own just decided to do this dangerous project. I'm their daughter. Yeah. Okay. Oh, my God, that haircut's so bad. Which one?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Maybe it's the helmet hair, you know? It doesn't seem like helmet hair. She's wearing her regular clothes. Okay. How is it that they're all – how do they have all their Ant-Man suits in the quantum realm? Because they got sucked into this thing. Presumably they're in a little thing.
Starting point is 00:22:26 They're in a nanotech box. Luckily we all have this nanotech box on our belts or whatever. Luckily we all wear belts. We're all wearing belts. It's in our Apple iWatch. I know that's not what they're called. That's what they're called. In the Marvel Universe, that's what they're called.
Starting point is 00:22:39 They're called the Apple iWatch. Okay, great. Okay, looking good. All right. Good realms. I'm looking good. All right. Good realms. I'm liking that. Yep. They're on some sort of weird, weird fleshy dragon,
Starting point is 00:22:49 like a meaty manta ray of some sort. I can't decide whether this more looks like your bland kind of Eternals universe or something like more Guardians and exciting and unique. Like I can't quite tell from this. And I'm hoping it's more. I don't get any distinct kind of vibes like from it. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:23:08 Ten ring stuff going on there. Ten ring stuff. A lot of people are speculating and we would be remiss if we didn't speculate. Obviously there's the ten rings in Shang-Chi and you might say Ms. Marvel's bracelet is a ring of a sort. You might say that. That's right. That's something I noticed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You can't rule out that any of these characters haven't eaten an onion ring at some point or a calamari ring. Yeah. You never know what the calamari ring is going to be like until you bite into it and you're like, oh, this is a stringy one. Now what do you think this is? We've got Ant-Man. He's looking at a giant man version of himself and it turns into a big squiggly
Starting point is 00:23:40 situation. I don't know. It's going on there. See, look at that. Yeah. I mean, different realities. Different realities could be. It's going on there. See, look at that. Yeah. I mean, different realities. Different realities could be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Because isn't it in one of the, this is different than the trailer they showed at Comic-Con. I see. Where Kang's like, haven't I killed a bunch of Ant-Man before or whatever? Oh, I remember that. So that could be what he's looking at. Could be. I mean, it could be, it could be, and what I'm guessing it probably will be
Starting point is 00:24:01 is we'll have sort of a blanket statement sort of maybe at the start of the second act where it's like, down in the quantum realm, literally anything can happen. We don't have to explain it. It will just happen. Yeah. Maybe there will be a big version of you that goes all squiggly. Maybe there won't, though. Maybe there won't.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Pretty sure there won't be. Yeah, there's going to be, though. There's going to be, though. Yeah. Anyway, very excited to see Kang and what he's up to. Yeah. My goodness. Delightful. I'm the big fan. I'm also a up to. Yeah. My goodness. Delightful.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I'm a big fan. I'm also a big fan. Yeah. Should we move it along? Let's move it along. Because there's another trailer. I think this was leaked and then they had to put it out. The Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Right, yes. It's coming up in December of this year. Yeah. It's a fun little Christmas jaunt. That's right. So Peter Quill is sad. Why? Well, what happened to Gamora?
Starting point is 00:24:44 Nah. She died. He's all right. Oh, he's fine?. Why? Well, what happened to Gamora? Nah. She died. He's all right. Oh, he's fine? Yeah, I think he's all right, actually. You think he's just putting on a show for attention or something? If I had access to time travel and different realities and whatever, and someone was like, your girlfriend died or whatever, hypothetically,
Starting point is 00:24:58 maybe your wife, I'd be like, I've got to know. Which is it, James? Which would you be more sad for, if your girlfriend died or your wife? Well, what I'm saying is, though, you could just, which is what's going to happen is you get another one. Because the other one's got to turn up in the movie. Right. There's got to be a second Gamora.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yes. But not the same, like, you know, they have to teach her to dance and whatever. Sure, yeah, yeah, right. So you'll be fine. Don't worry about it. Okay. Anyway, in an attempt to cheer him up,
Starting point is 00:25:24 Mantis and Drax have decided to go to Earth, a place where Peter Quill won't go for some reason. Yeah. Painful memories or whatever. Yeah. And they're going to kidnap Kevin Bacon. I hope Kevin Bacon knows what he's in for here because as we know, he will get endless questions.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah. For example, was this Kevin Bacon in the movie X-Men First Class where he played whatever his character's name was and he's a bad guy and because they were going to introduce. Magneto's helmet. Exactly. Is he going to introduce, when they introduce the X-Men, is that going to affect you because are they going to recast your character?
Starting point is 00:26:00 Is that character going to be in these? Is that unrelated? And he's going to have to be like, I don't know, but I'm excited to see what Kevin Feige cooks up. Two Kevins, can you imagine? Couple of Kevins. Can't imagine it. Ha-ha.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'm going to push through with my charisma because I don't know the answers and I don't want to learn the answers. I'm already sick of this. I'm Kevin Feige. I mean. Because he's in an expert movie, James. Yes, I know. He's in the first class.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I like that movie. It might be my favorite. Is James. Yes, I know. He's in the first class. I like that movie. It might be my favourite. Is it? I don't know. It's definitely out there. No, but it just seems like a bit of fun. It does seem like a bit of fun. When we're getting some Christmas Disney cheer this year,
Starting point is 00:26:32 we're getting this and that Santa Claus movie and whatever. Okay, do you think there'll be an oblique reference to him being in an X-Men movie in this movie? Potentially. I mean, if Deadpool was here, absolutely. But I also, I thought they were going to try, I thought they were going to kidnap a Santa. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And I don't know whether it was going to be like a real Santa or a mall Santa. Santa with muscles, Hulk Hogan. Yeah, Santa with muscles, Hulk Hogan. But then it was like, no, it's great. It's a good reference and joke. Yeah. A reference seeing Kevin Bacon.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Has Peter Quill referenced Kevin Bacon in any movies? Yeah, in the first one. Is it for this? He says like it's telling Gamora about a great legendary. Oh, of course. That's right. Okay, great. So that's why it referenced Kevin Bacon in any movies? Yeah, in the first one. He says like it's telling Gamora about a great legendary hero. Of course, that's right. Okay, great. So that's why it's Kevin Bacon. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:27:10 That's something you didn't notice. I didn't notice. I didn't notice, James. When's that out? Christmas. Can you be more specific? No. I don't know when Christmas is.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Christmas Day? I don't know when Christmas is. I've never had Christmas. Actually, it's November 25th. Wow. Now, look, I is. I've never had Christmas. Actually, it's November 25th. Wow. Now, look, I'm pretty sure that's not Christmas. But you said you don't know that, though, because you don't know when Christmas is.
Starting point is 00:27:31 That's correct, yes. Great. Seems familiar, though. Got a couple of recasts here, Mason. Oh, that seemed pointed and directed at me. It is. Are you implying these are my fault? Yes. At least one of them. Well, I don't know who you're talking about you implying these are my fault? Yes, at least one of them.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Well, I don't know who you're talking about, so it might be my fault. You watched the final episode of the latest season of Doctor Who. I did, yes. And the regeneration. Spoilers, by the way. Doctor Who. But if you're a big fan, you'd know this, and if you weren't, you don't care. That's true. Now, to be clear, we're not big fans.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I used to be. In theory, we are. Well, okay, so for people who do not recall so i i watched most of no i watched the majority of eccleston and tenant yes and then intimate we all watched tenant it was a big movie haha nice thank you very nice go on it's good stuff is it it involves time yeah yeah i guess it does, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. But in every season I have attempted to watch a couple of episodes. That's how I've maintained my- Same.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I watched a couple of the Capaldis, maybe one or two of the Jodie Whittaker. Matt Smith? No, I watched all of Matt Smith. Did you? Yeah, yeah. Good for you. How'd that go? It's all right.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I like him. I liked his second outfit but only his first outfit. Anyway. Yeah, because there's too much shirt front. I know. We've that go? It's all right. I like him. I liked his second outfit but only his first outfit. Anyway. Yeah, because there's too much shirt front. I know. We've talked about it. That's right. I just need to reiterate it just in case people think that I somehow
Starting point is 00:28:51 like his first outfit better than his second outfit, which I don't. Spooky movies, James. I don't like his first outfit at all. I know. Yeah, I know. But anyway, so in this final episode of Jodie Whittaker, what did you think of it, by the way? I didn't watch it.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I mean, I – You're like, I'm going? I didn't watch it. I mean, I – You're like, I'm going to miss all these. Well, I mean, it's interesting. No, because I didn't know most of them. There was some – it was what I feel like is perhaps par for the course currently, which is they get as many former doctors as possible. I saw that clip. They replaced the first doctor, I think, because obviously he's been –
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah, with the dude from Game of Thrones or whatever. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think he's done it before. Yeah, and then they have some sage advice for present day Jojo. Is that in her mind or something? Yeah, it's in a simulation or something. Oh, my God. But they're only there for like 20 seconds each, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yes, that's right. Yeah. But as I understand it, she has a companion called Yaz and everybody was expecting them to have like a romantic thing, but they didn't and a lot of people were very disappointed about that, I believe. Right. I'd imagine if I was invested, I'd be upset too.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Yeah. But again, not really invested. And I don't, James, see if you can guess who the villains were in this final episode. Was it the Master or the Daleks? It was the Master and the Daleks and the Cybermen. And the Cybermen. Yeah, except they're now Cybermasters.
Starting point is 00:30:06 They're evolved versions of the Cybermen. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. The Master did it. I like the guy who plays the Master. He's good, right? Is he in Iron Fist? He was in Iron Fist, wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:30:14 He was. Wait, was he? He wanted to be the other Iron Fist? Oh, yeah, yeah, second season. Okay, right. Or first season. In this, he's also Rasputin. He's revealed that he was, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:21 Oh, that's fine. Russian, big-time Russian guy. Big-time Russian guy. Russian, Russian, Russian guy. All the time. You was, you know, Oh, that's fine. Russian, Russian, big, big time Russian guy. Big time Russian guy. Russian, Russian, Russian guy. All the time. You know, that guy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know. I always feel like there's something a little bit off about Doctor Who. Something
Starting point is 00:30:35 like it's... Always? Like even the stuff that you like? No, less, less. I don't know. I feel like it should be, we've discussed this before but I think like the mistake, the mistake they make is trying to make it cool in like a Hollywood way. Like it starts out with – the episode starts out with kind of like a space train rescue.
Starting point is 00:30:54 The Doctor and her companions have to like jump on it. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun I don't know. Can you do it again? Hang on. Jumping from carriage to carriage in space. No, it doesn't do that. Oh, okay. Yeah. But it felt like it's one of those things that it always,
Starting point is 00:31:17 like it's so weirdly melodramatic, like there's people on the train and they're like, we're doing a big distress signal. Can anyone come to help? And then the doctor's like, I can. I'm the doctor. Yeah, cool, man. That is cool. I mean, it is cool, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:31:32 I don't know. It just feels like a little bit off. Like don't try and make it that. Just make it be its own thing. But look, I don't know. Do you think the worst thing that ever happened to Doctor Who and the best was David Tennant where the Doctor Who had to be cool from that odd Yeah. Because he's like an inherently
Starting point is 00:31:47 like a cool guy. But that's like who he is. Have we talked about this on air? I think we may have. I feel like Eccleston and Tennant just brought a crew. Because Doctor Who was never cool No. It was fun and what have you but it was never cool but I feel like Eccleston and Tennant made it cool and then the writers specifically the showrunner that
Starting point is 00:32:03 Moffat, the one who came after Russell T Davies, was like, what if we wrote him as the coolest guy in the universe? You shouldn't. You should write him as what he is or she. But again, also what's interesting about this episode, there's a Dalek. You wouldn't believe this. Doesn't believe in the Dalek cause.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Whoa. And the Doctor's like, a good Dalek? I've never seen the Dalek cause. Whoa. You know, except, and it's like, and the doctor's like, a good Dalek? I've never seen such a thing. You have. You have. Even in the limited episodes I've seen, you've seen multiple times it's happened.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I think maybe even in this run, like even the Jodie Whittaker doctor's met another good Dalek. Would you prefer if she was like, this is unusual but not unheard of? That's right. Now that I think about it, this is quite common. Yeah. So the big reveal, though, from the regeneration was, or what is this, Mason?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Well, at the end, of course, the Doctor has to regenerate and she regenerates into, and you wouldn't bloody believe this. You wouldn't even read about it. She regenerates into the Tenth Doctor again. Clothes and all, though. Clothes and all. Yeah. Which is not done.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Why do you think that is? Is it because people wouldn't take the regeneration seriously if it's tenor in that weird Mork for Mork gear? I think that would have been fun. I mean, I think it depends on where he's come from. Yeah. Because they're saying he's the 14th Doctor. Well, so one thing that I like about this is that he does go,
Starting point is 00:33:19 I recognise these teeth. Yeah. Because when he regenerates originally from Eccleston, he goes, teeth? Which I thought was a fun callback. So congratulations. You got one fun callback from the last 15 years. Well done.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Where were we going with this? Well, yeah. What were you saying earlier? So there's going to be three specials. Yeah. And as mentioned, he's the 14th Doctor. There's also a version of him which is human and trapped in another dimension.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Also. Or living peacefully in another dimension. Which might be this guy. Maybe. Well, see see that's the thing because it's the the only as i understand it the only doctor that regenerated and got new clothes was the first one into the second one since then every time the doctor regenerates he's they're wearing the old clothes and they have to switch so it could be it has happened before yeah but just once like 50 years ago right um it could just be the power of regeneration yeah too much stuff going on. Oh, that's right. So also this is the third time canonically he's played the Doctor
Starting point is 00:34:09 because the original one and then there's a line of dialogue and I think one of the specials where it's like the three Doctors or the four Doctors or the five Doctors or the ten Doctors or whatever, he says that he died off screen and he regenerated into Tenet again because he was vain. Didn't we see that though? Maybe. I'm pretty sure we saw that happen. Okay, right. Yeah, and he regenerated into Tenet again because he was vain. Didn't we see that though? I'm pretty sure we saw that happen. He just regenerated into himself.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Maybe it's been more than that then. So the twist, the surprise here is obviously that it's Tenet again. We knew he was going to be in these because there were some set photos and people were like, wow, is new Doctor going to meet this Doctor or whatever? But it turns out he may not be regenerating though.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Maybe it's something else. Maybe he's switching places or something else. But he and Shruti Gathura are wearing the same tie. Exactly. Same tie. They're going to do three specials next year leading up to the new New Doctor who's the number 15th coming in. It's called New New Doctor.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Even newer. And they've got a retro logo, which I quite liked. Yeah. Yeah, which was a bit of fun. It's also been confirmed that Disney Plus will now be the exclusive home for new seasons outside of the UK and Ireland. Oh, we're outside the UK and Ireland. That's us, Mason.
Starting point is 00:35:16 So I will definitely be watching these because not only that, not Stephen Moffat, Russell T Davies is back. Yeah. So it's Chris Chibnall was the previous. Yeah. Okay, right. Yeah. From what I've Chibnall was the previous. Yeah. Okay, right. Yeah. From what I've heard and speaking to people both and seeing online
Starting point is 00:35:29 but also people in real life, there is some good Jodie Whittaker stuff, but the material doesn't like match how good she is apparently. Yeah, right. But I haven't seen it and I won't because there's too many. I've heard that it's okay, but she was miscast. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I don't know what to believe. Right? Maybe it's she was miscast and it's bad. Could be both. Yeah. If only we'd watched to know. I tapped out in the Jodie Whittaker was the one. They did like a James Bond sort of pastiche, but it wasn't very good.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Okay. Well, yeah. Also, the master was there, I think. Oh, my God. Yeah, if you can absolutely believe that. I can absolutely believe it, Mason. So, yeah, you know, they do this every few years. They redo it and whatever
Starting point is 00:36:07 and I think people are genuinely happy to see it. Also, if you're in Australia, mostly the way to watch this is on a streaming service called iView which is in standard definition. Wow! It'll be nice to see this in HD. That's how it's supposed to be seen. I guess that's
Starting point is 00:36:23 true, yeah. Utter crap. That's right. And sometimes you go to watch it and it's like, no, we taped over it with something else, actually. It's tradition. We taped over it with the news. We didn't think anybody was interested in watching this. Speaking of recasts, though, Mason.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Uh-oh. Henry Cavill says- I know him. I know and love him from The Witcher. Yeah, wow. You poor Mason. He says he's done with streaming. He's going to be a big movie star again. Spooky movies. He's gone back to the movies, James.
Starting point is 00:36:50 So The Witcher season three is not out yet, but that is done and filmed. It's in the can. It's in the can. It's the proverbial can. That Eastern European can that they all like to share on set. It's like they piss into it, do they? Yeah. Okay, great. And more. And more? I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:37:06 But they've also confirmed that The Witcher will return for season four, but through official statements through Henry Cavill. We're not just talking about Henry Cavill's big bust. No. Through official sources that he will be handing over his sword and wig to Liam Hemsworth. I'm going to say that that's probably inaccurate and he'll probably get a new wig.
Starting point is 00:37:23 To match Liam Hemsworth's head. I think so. I don't think they'll just give him just a poorly shorn off wig and they'll probably get a new wig. To match Liam Hemsworth's head. I think so. I don't think they'll just give him just a poorly shorn off wig and they'll be like, you know. A poorly shorn wig. A poorly shorn wig. Hand me down a wig. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:33 So that's, people don't like that. Now what does this mean? Well, first of all, people should watch The Dressmaker because Liam Hemsworth is in that. Yeah, no, as I've said before, I like Liam Hemsworth, but he's never nailed down a franchise successfully. And again, I said to you, but what about those OPSM ads? Yeah, and I said I haven't seen those.
Starting point is 00:37:55 People should go to YouTube and write OPSM Liam. Was he in Divergent? No, he was in Hunger Games, I guess, but he's not like the lead in Hunger Games. He pops up in a lot of things. He's never out of work, and I've never seen him bad. Uh-oh, here he is. You can watch the OPSM ads on YouTube. Great.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah, it's great. And certainly 45 seconds. Yeah. I could definitely watch that. He's not going to OPSM though, is he? Maybe he is. He's going to a trendy, cool guy. So he's not wearing glasses in there.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Well, he needs glasses. OPSM is a glasses company in Australia. He goes, I don't have any fucking glasses. You've got to help me. Give me all your glasses. And he just starts wearing glasses in there. Well, he needs glasses. He's a glasses company in Australia. He goes, I don't have any fucking glasses. You've got to help me. Give me all your glasses. And he just starts taking glasses off the wall and putting them in his pockets. They're like, sir, sir, that's not how. You have to get your prescription put in there.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And he's like, well, do it now. Do it before I leave. And they're like, it actually takes a couple of weeks. It's a good ad. Liam, please no. And then at the end, it's just a black screen that says, don't do this. It says a good ad. Yeah. Liam, please no. And then at the end it's just a black screen that says don't do this. It says Liam Hemsworth died on the way back to his home planet. He weighed down – he didn't calculate the weight correctly in his spaceship.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Typical. And it crashed into a mountainside because he stole too many glasses. Too many glasses. Too many specs. Yeah. Yeah. spaceship. Typical. And it crashed into a mountainside because he stole too many glasses. Too many specs. So Henry Cavill is obviously, he's back as Superman for solo movies and other projects and it seems like he's back back.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Do you think this is why? I think this is a factor. Other people have speculated that he's going to be James Bond as well. Which I think is possible. I didn't know this but James Bond and Superman jeez Louise Mason. Right. Spooky movies.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah. I could do both. So I should have said spooky movies. Or is that your thing? That's mine. You could do it, but I think it sounds better when I say it. Okay, all right, cool. Apparently this is from a bunch of interviews with Henry Cavill.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Apparently, and probably everybody else knew this, but he's such a huge fan of the books, and that's why he really wanted to be the Witcher. Yeah. And apparently he kept fighting for it such a huge fan of the books and that's why he really wanted to be the Witcher. And apparently he kept fighting for it to be more accurate to the books and they were like, nah. Were they really dismissive of the games and the books? Yeah, they were dismissive.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And, yeah, apparently the writers were just like, nah, the dialogue sucks in these books. We're going to do a different dialogue. We're like, oh, good for you. Good for you, Henry Cavill. You like these books, you big nerd, et cetera. Well, as someone who watched most of the first season and then stopped, I've got to tell you, I'm excited, I think, about this, Mason.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah, Henry Cavill, who played Geralt, pushed for the Witcher to have more dialogue so the character would appear more like his novel counterpart. Yeah. A lot of the notes he was sending to me were about Geralt's dialogue. Could he first of all say more? Mm. She then reflected on how season one portrayed the Witcher. Everybody came out of season to me were about Geralt's dialogue. Could he first of all say more?
Starting point is 00:40:27 She then reflected on how season one portrayed the Witcher. Everybody came out of season one laughing and loving Geralt's fuming, but Henry was saying that when you read the books, you spend a lot of time in Geralt's head, so how can we put that on the page? Yeah, that makes sense. So he says, the toughest part for me was finding the balance between the showrunner's vision and my love for the books and trying to bring that Geralt to the showrunner's vision.
Starting point is 00:40:43 It's about treading a fine line there. It's the showrunner's story and so it's an adaptation. The trick he did for me was finding Geralt from the book's place within that and being able to serve both as much as I could. You can imagine this in his fancy pants voice. Yeah, his fancy pants British man voice, yeah. Not necessarily just more dialogue, bringing a more book-accurate Geralt to the screen because, as I'm sure you know in the books,
Starting point is 00:41:02 he's an amateur philosopher, he's an intellectual, he's wise and thoughtful. But it's important for me to have the character be three-dimensional. I didn't get that sense at all from the episodes that I watched, Tyson. Just a big grunty man? Just a big grunty man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Swinging a big sword around, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:16 There you go. How much of this did you watch? Some of the first season. Wow. And you were in the same camp. How long before they cancel this? Oh, with Liam Hemsworth at the helm? Yeah. Not because of him. Right.. How long before they cancel this? Oh, with Liam Hemsworth at the helm? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Not because of him. Right. But just because they will cancel it eventually. I guess it depends on ratings, obviously. And, I mean, it's impossible to know based on the algorithm or what the algorithm is. Oh, my goodness. What the algorithm is feeling right now.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah. You know what I mean? Hey, Ollie. Relax. This is the magpie. I can see it through the window. This is the bloody magpie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Great. Good, I guess. Yeah. I mean, I guess. And that's the thing, I guess, is the magpie. I can see it through the window. This is the bloody magpie. Yeah, great. Good, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I guess, and that's the thing, I guess, is the question is why has this show kept going for three-plus seasons when other stuff falls by the wayside even though it also seems to be massively popular? It just must be in that algorithm. It's in the algorithm where more people subscribe to watch The Witcher
Starting point is 00:42:02 or whatever it is. Yeah, and come on board every time there's a new season. Does that mean that does the changing in lead casting, will that encourage more people to have a platform or? Do you feel like Henry Cavill when he left Superman, he was at a different level of fame and movie star gravitas than now. He's much more. Yeah, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:42:22 He's more your A-level. Not that he was ever like not real. I mean, he was Superman. No, for a while he was not real, James. Yeah, right, right, right. He's more your A-level. Not that he was ever like not real. I mean he was Superman. No, for a while he was not real, James. Yes, he was also not real. We wished him into being. You know what I mean? Like what if there was the biggest British man?
Starting point is 00:42:33 We know there are a lot of pale, weedy British men, but what if there was a big British man? Do you know what I mean though by that? Yeah, yeah. It seems like he's, I feel like marketing-wise as well, because he's, and he did Mission you know, Mission Impossible or whatever, so he's just been building his like public persona and his brand and whatever and doing.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And getting out there and going on Graham Norton and telling him about Warhammer figurines or whatever. Exactly. I built a PC. Anyway. Then you get your armies to fight. Anyways, I like Superman and I don't care about the Witcher, so this is all fine for me.
Starting point is 00:43:05 It's great for us, isn't it? Star Wars News Mason. Do you think they pitched him like, we're going to give you three movies or something? I would say so, yeah. Something like that. Yep. Okay. And didn't he say he wanted to bring the fun back in super fun? Fun, yeah, he did. I want to bring the fun back in super fun. And they're like, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:43:22 Henry? He's like, oh, I think there's a super gas leak right now. I'm not having a super fun time. It like, are you okay? Henry? He's like, oh, I think there's a super gas leak right now. I'm not having a super fun time. It's a regular gas leak. There's nothing super about it. What is the timing on this? Was this today? Yeah. So it happened Sunday. Okay, well this is going to
Starting point is 00:43:39 line up with another bit of news that I think you have coming up. Potentially, yes. Let's do some Star Wars news first, Mason. Okay. Damon Lindelof will write with Justin Britt Gibson a Star Wars movie, and it's going to be directed by filmmaker Shereme Obaid Chinoy, who she directed a few episodes of Ms. Marvel.
Starting point is 00:43:58 So it's going to be apparently a standalone Star Wars movie set after The Rise of Skywalker, which will potentially feature some of its characters returning. And it could also lead to more movies after that, but they're not doing trilogies anymore, Disney, for Star Wars. Apparently they just do, we'll do one movie, and if people like one movie, we do two movie. If people like that movie, we do three movie.
Starting point is 00:44:20 If people like that movie, they do four movie. If people like that movie. Then we make exponential movie. Yeah, they have five movie. Make a four movies. People like that movie. Then we make exponential movies. Yeah, they have five movies. They do that movie and then they have like six movies. And then if they like that movie, that's enough movies. That's enough. Yeah, you've had enough.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Had enough movies. Go to bed, all of you. You go to the cinema and it just says go to bed. Go to bed, all of you. I like all the names. You're not getting your money back. You paid for a ticket but you're not getting it back. This is for your own good.
Starting point is 00:44:46 So they advertise a seventh movie that they didn't make. That's right. And you go to buy a ticket. They're like, go home. No, you buy the ticket. Sorry, yeah, you buy it. Then you go into the theater and it just leads you outdoors. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Back into the car park. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So I like this, this team. I mean, Damon Lindelof, we've talked about it before, he did Watchmen, the series, which I thought was great. He did The Leftovers, which was great. I also like that they're going to move beyond The Rise of Skywalker
Starting point is 00:45:14 and maybe do something more interesting with those characters than they did in the last movie because that was not very good. But it's not going to be like in your mainline Star Wars movies, Mason, which I know you'll be devastated about. I'm Devo. Yeah, you'll be all right. In addition to that, this is via Puck News. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:45:29 That's the support I need. Remember, if one of your friends says that they're Devo, you've got to tell them. You've got to acknowledge that. And then tell them they'll be right. You'll be right, mate. Stop sucking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:41 It's important. Just have a tinny, you know. That's right. This is via Puck News though, Mason, linked to this. Bob Chapek, head of Disney and whatever, has advised Kathleen Kennedy to stop announcing projects until they are set in stone. Spooky movies, Kathleen.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I know. Stop announcing movies until they're set in stone, all right? Come on, doll. To avoid further negative press surrounding the franchise and the company. And to be fair, some of the news of movies and shows, it hasn't been officially announced. But there's been a bunch that have been.
Starting point is 00:46:10 For example, they filmed that one on the tarmac with the X-Wing and they're like, we're going to make the best movie you've ever seen. You'll kill yourself. It's so good. And then that's not happening. We don't know what's happening with Rian Johnson's trilogy. There are other things. Taika Waititi, is he still making one? think so so the solution here the band-aid solution
Starting point is 00:46:28 is stop announcing stop announcing stuff right so i think they just i think it's gonna work yeah i think it's just you know i and also people don't believe them now like i hear this one damon lindelof and whatever and i'm like okay we'll see when it comes out yeah that would be great even even if they announce it at cinemas and they sell tickets, I'm still not going to believe. On account of the thing that happened. Yeah. We went in.
Starting point is 00:46:49 They said Patty Jenkins and I'm like, that's good. Can we see that? Taika Waititi. All right, what does a Star Wars movie with him look like? I want to see the Rian Johnson trilogy. This is all interesting. Can we have some of them? No.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And it was great, by the way, Mason. I know you haven't seen it yet. I'm not up to date, no. It's incredible. Mason, it's incredible. Okay, God. Everybody tells you know you haven't seen it yet. I'm not up to date, no. It's incredible. Mason, it's incredible. Okay, God. Everybody tells you that, don't they? Everybody does tells me that.
Starting point is 00:47:09 It's true, though. It's absolutely true. If there's something else someone's going to tell you, that's someone being me. Okay. It's via THR. You wouldn't have the guts. I'm ready, though.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I feel like I've got the confidence now. Out with it, then. Okay. DC is saying that the Green Lantern series. Jesus, call me a bluff. I don't think he will. It's completely retooled. So it's got a new showrunner and writer
Starting point is 00:47:27 because Seth Graham Smith has left the series after finishing the scripts for all eight episodes of the first season that we're going to do. That one is going to focus on Alan Scott and Guy Gardner.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Now, this one is going to focus on I've written Alan Scott twice but it's not Alan Scott. Is it the two new guys? No, what's his name? He's in the cartoons as well. Al Jordan. No, the other one.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Kyle Rayner. No, the other one. Jon Stewart. Oh, okay, sure. I was like, is it Jon Stewart? Because there's Jon Stewart, like the TV guy. Right, yes. So that's due to his popularity because, yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:01 he's probably the one that people know the most. At this point, I would say definitely in like sort of non-comic adaptations, I would say, because he's in all the cartoons. Exactly. Wait, Hal Jordan's in Injustice, the video games, right? Probably. He definitely is. Now, I don't mind that they're retooling this as well.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Oh, sure. I want, though, to see like a Guy Gardner, just an awful person to show up. So I don't really care who leads it. Like, yeah, great. I like Jon Stewart, but I still want to see the larger Green Lantern core and all of that. So, you know, cause they were going to do Alan Scott cause Alan Scott's gay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yes. And so I think the initial idea was you've got the original Green Lantern and then he's clashing with the Guy Gardner Green Lantern because Guy Gardner's got the worst haircut and he's the worst. He casts this in everything, I'm pretty sure. Or do you think it's just going to be a bunch of catty comments about his haircut? Okay, great, terrific.
Starting point is 00:48:56 But, yeah, so I think that would be interesting. But, I don't know, I think Greg Berlanti's still on board because he was producing it. But, of course, there was a big DC shakeup. And speaking of Mason. Yeah, I would have loved to have seen Alan Scott in live action. Yeah, and maybe we will. Maybe we still will.
Starting point is 00:49:09 One of the worst costumes. Yeah. Just atrocious. That was from the 30s or whatever, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So apparently in a role that they actually, because DC were looking, we've talked about this,
Starting point is 00:49:19 they were looking for their Kevin Feige, and apparently they even went to Kevin Feige for this role, for Kevin Feige. Sure. Hey, Kevin Feige, you got any room on your plate to do another Kevin Feige and apparently they even went to Kevin Feige for this role for Kevin Feige. Sure. Hey, Kevin Feige, you got any room on your plate to do another Kevin Feige job over here? Yeah, can you do Kevin Feige for us over here? You got a spare decade to turn this ship around, this sinking ship?
Starting point is 00:49:34 How old are you? You got a decade? You got kids? Yeah, that's right. You're turning a sinking ship around. It's still sinking. You'd just be turning it around to sink in a different location. You okay with that?
Starting point is 00:49:44 Kevin, you still there? Well, he politely declined apparently. Kevin, I'm talking to him in a different location. You okay with that? Kevin, you still there? Well, he politely declined apparently. Kevin, I'm talking to him in person. He's just standing there. Yeah. He's trying to, he thinks my vision's based on movement. He knows what he's doing. Yeah, so he politely declined.
Starting point is 00:49:58 He didn't want to do it. Allegedly. Well, also. Get out of here. Apparently they, didn't they, they went for him in the earlier days of the MCU. Oh, did they? Yeah, when he was going up against like Ike Perlmutter and whatever. Oh, and they were like, we'll give you a free ride.
Starting point is 00:50:12 And I think he, I mean, from rumours that he. We've got a ship that's got a few holes in it, but I reckon you could probably plug those holes. It's early days here. Early days. The ship isn't sinking yet, Kevin, over here at DC. We made Man of Steel. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:25 As THR reported, James Gunn and producer Peter Safran have been tapped to lead DC's film, television, and animation efforts as co-chairs and co-CEOs of DC Studios, a newly formed division at Warner Brothers that will replace DC Films. So forget what you knew about DC Films, Mason. It's out the door. Usher in the DC Studios. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:50:48 What does that mean? They could be making anything, not just films. Yeah. They could be making TV. Yep. They could be making crypto. Yep. Crypto-based crypto.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah, that's good. Crypto the dog, but it's on crypto. It's on crypto, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And bandanas. Bandanas, certainly, yeah. Crypto on currency, right? Very good.
Starting point is 00:51:07 So apparently James Gunn will focus on the creative side and Safran will focus on the business and production side of the division. How are these two going to get along? One's all about art and one's all about business. And they have to live together. Right? One of them always wants the top bunk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:22 So it's a four-year deal and James Gunn will be exclusively working at DC for this time. Whoa. So is Guardians of the Galaxy 3 film finished? Yeah, so he's going to promote that and do all that, but then that'll be his last Marvel thing. Who do you think he's going to bring on for who of his mates? Dave Bautista.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Dave Bautista maybe. And nobody else. Michael Rooker in another role? Michael Rooker? No, he did that. He killed him already. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Give him another role. Oh, anotherer? No, he did that. He killed him already. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Give him another role.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Oh, another role. Yeah, you might be right. It's also established universes like Joker will still be separate. Okay. And potentially the Batman, but we don't know about that. And I think the next Batman sequel is like 2025. 2025. In a lot of ways, this is exactly the same as the DC we had before this.
Starting point is 00:52:00 It's just we've got two guys who are willing to cop a lot of bullets for it. Yeah. I mean, also, I like these guys more than whoever was in charge of the last stuff. Who's the other guy that's not James Gunn? What's his deal? Peter Sattler. He's produced a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:11 He's a good producer. I think he did Aquaman and some other stuff. Nice. You know, producers, like, who knows what they do? Right. So I guess he's a good one. But I think James Gunn, I think the difference between, you know, Kevin Feige, he's not like a director like James Gunn.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Oh, here we go, James Gunn. James is going to bloody say a thing about a guy. No, this seems good. Yeah, it does. I don't know yet, but it seems like a good idea on the surface. But I think the advantage of this is Kevin Feige, he's a bit creative and he knows his law. He's a bit creative.
Starting point is 00:52:40 No, but he's not a director is what I'm saying. His ideas clearly work and he knows what fans want to see and he can interconnect stuff. But he doesn't write and he doesn't direct. He's like overseas. Whereas James Gunn does those things and I think in addition to that having another guy who can do all the producery stuff, whatever they do, I think that seems like it could be a good balance.
Starting point is 00:52:58 That's true. But also not everybody I think likes James Gunn's aesthetic necessarily, but I think James Gunn is smart enough not to James Gunn everything. Like he's not directing every movie. He is going to still direct and write. But I think like The Suicide Squad is probably the best DC movie. Certainly up there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:16 If not, yeah, it's definitely up there. Yeah. So, yeah, the goal is for them not to just be producers but truly function as executives and even, as mentioned, Gunn will occasionally hone a movie. And I guess it still depends on how much freedom are they actually going to get here as well. Yeah, great question.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I'm hoping a lot. But it's also wild that he got fired, which three, four years ago, which is now linked to this. Yeah, yeah. Re-hired and then in that he did the Suicide Squad and whatever. So there you go. You're happy with any of this news, Mason? I'm happy with all that news.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Jiminy Christmas. What's your expression again? Spooky Halloween. Yeah. Jiminy Christmas, spooky Halloween. What's going on here, you bloody kids? Oh, a dog's here. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:54:01 But that's not the only exciting bit of DC News, Mason. Isn't it? No. So this is not an official announcement bit of DC News, Mason. Isn't it? No. So this is not an official announcement, but it was in a Warner Brothers memo. So you know it's legit. So this is a leaked memo. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:12 So what we did know unofficially as the DCEU is now officially DCU, Mason. Hell, yeah. It's rebranded. Wow. So it took them. It's actually now the DC Union. They're all on strike. Wow. So it took them. It's actually now the DC Union. They're all on strike. Good.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I support them. That's right. That's nearly 10 years of these movies in this universe and they've finally picked a name. Terrific. But it does, it begs the question because Detective Comics, they call it DC Comics. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:39 But it's not Detective Comics Comics. So is this Detective Comics Universe or the Detective Comics Cinematic Universe? Oh, that is a great question. Is this a recursive acronym? Yeah, because I was... Does the D stand for DC? Yeah, because I was like, oh, what does that mean? And I was hunting around to find it, and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Okay. So, because the MCU is Marvel Cinematic Universe. Correct, yes. Because Marvel just means Marvel. Oh, yeah. It ultimately doesn't mean anything. I'm presuming it means just DC Cinematic Universe. Correct, yes. Because, you know, Marvel just means Marvel. So it ultimately doesn't mean anything. I'm presuming it means just DC Cinematic Universe. I'm assuming that's what it means, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:11 What does anything mean? Maybe it's going to be called the Detective Comics Universe and they're going back to basics. James Gunn's like, you don't understand how to do superheroes. We're going back. We're just going to be hard-boiled detective comics. Yeah. It's going to be a guy in a chair reading hard-boiled detective comics.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Do you think they're going to change the intro? All those people we see with no faces? No, because they haven't used any of those characters yet. Some of them they have. Here's 100 DC characters and we've used five of them. Hawk Man's in there, I think. Yeah. And there's obviously ones like mainline ones like Superman and whatevs.
Starting point is 00:55:44 But, yeah, I don't know. We'll see. You know what they should do? They should, every time they release a movie, they should show that intro and check off the characters they've used and we can see what's left. I like that a lot. Pretty good, right?
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yeah, I'm a big fan of that. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH,
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Starting point is 00:56:48 Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Mason, spookiest time of the year. It is the spookiest time of the year. Just as an addendum, the guy, he's in a chair and he's reading the Detective Comics book. He's just like, this is a good one. It's a bit of a yarn, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:57:07 We don't actually hear any of them. He's reading silently. Oh, okay. Who wrote this? Oh, yeah. Doesn't even say who it was. It looks like a cover. I don't care for this guy.
Starting point is 00:57:15 And he just moves a couple of pages. And we're enraptured. Yeah. We're like, oh, my God, what didn't he like about that guy? What's he seen before? Because we remember from the previous ones and he's like, I didn't like this one or this one. And you're like, which is he talking about?
Starting point is 00:57:30 Pretty incredible, I think. So, Mason. Go on. Because it is the spookiest time of the year. Oh, yes. And you know what I'm not referring to? I mean, you are referring to tax season, right? No.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Oh. No, not just, no. I mean, I guess. But all the previous times you've been referring to tax season. No, no. I've been, like I've said tax season, but I wasn't directly referring to it. I'm talking about Halloween specifically. So when you said the spookiest time of the year, you didn't mean tax season?
Starting point is 00:57:52 No. Huh. Yeah. Spooky movies. We don't talk about tax season any of these times. We've got three movies we're going to talk about that we've picked. That's right. We're going to do.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Some for convenience sake. Sure. We're going gonna do some non spoilers for all and then spoilers the one that we're gonna go real spoilers on which is probably the most spoilery oh the first one is as well is um the movie barbarian which was safe till the end i think but there is so yeah how are we doing this one one movie spoiler one movie no spoilers spoilers yeah i think second movie no spoilers spoilers that okay right great so if you're if you're hanging out to watch Barbarian.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah. It's on streaming now. Yeah. Skip to the end. And also if there's ads in your copy of this podcast, maybe add another couple of minutes. Yeah, that's right. Because we might be right in the middle of a spoil.
Starting point is 00:58:36 A big spoil. When you skip, you might be like, I'm going to skip past this. We can't control how long the ads are. That's right. We've tried. I've run in there with a gun. Make them longer, we say. We're going to waving this gun around.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Anyway, so Helena Regin, I don't know how to pronounce that. She's the first English film. Who are we talking about? The director of this. What film? Sorry, Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. Okay, right. Didn't explain any of that.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Terrific, okay. So, yes, what do you think the story was? Oh, okay. I'm going to hit you with that three times. All right. We're going to do about, I don't know, five to ten minutes. Yeah, yeah. I'll probably give it a try.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Well, it's about a bunch of young people. Yuck, first of all, yuck. Agreed. They're mostly on the rich side and it focuses on a young woman named Sophie. She hasn't spoken to a friend group. She hasn't spoken to a friend group in a while. There's been some kind of falling out. She's leaving that group chat on read probably.
Starting point is 00:59:28 But a bunch of them are going to one of their dad's mansions for a weekend away and she decides to go because she's got a new girlfriend. That's right. So she's going to jump in there. And over the course of the weekend they're like, hey, why don't we get massively drunk and do a lot of drugs and then we'll play a party game. What's the worst that could happen?
Starting point is 00:59:43 The answer is the worst thing. That's right. So what I liked about this is how I enjoyed how everybody's awful. Sure, yes. And they really lean into that. And, I mean, obviously they have redeeming qualities and all of that, but there's a lot of, like, going on of, like, who's the most oppressed and do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:02 Who's had the most, like, you know, trouble. They're high on social media buzzwords and also lots of drugs yeah exactly i i enjoyed that element of it yeah so so without getting too too far into spoilers yeah so uh uh one of the characters ends up dead yeah and after after after uh the game after they play the game bodies bodies bodies which we i don't think we have but it's similar to like it's a social deduction. It's like werewolf, right? It's like werewolf or mafia. Yeah. And one of them ends up dead afterwards and they're like, okay, well, let's all go insane.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Let's solve this or go insane. Or go insane. Or go insane solving it. Exactly. Exactly. And what I loved about this movie. Did you love Lee Pace? I did love Lee Pace.
Starting point is 01:00:40 He's ripped to bod. Yes. He's the token guy who's too old to be there. What are you doing here, guy? You're in your 40s and your girlfriend's 20 or whatever. What's happening here? What I liked about this movie is that, and I think maybe we talked about this recently,
Starting point is 01:00:54 but the idea of the resurgence of horror is happening now, I feel like, because it's the genre of movie where you can just have a very good idea and movie production companies will give you some money to make it. And you only need $2 million to $5 million to do something like this. And you need maybe one location. It's all about the idea, whereas if, you know, there are other, if you want to make an Avengers endgame.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I do. Absolutely. First of all, it's too late. And I know you also want to make a Blazing Saddles, but you can't do that these days. But the idea, if you want to make a huge- Avengers Saddles? Could I?
Starting point is 01:01:29 Yeah. Blazing Avengers? Blazing Avengers. Yeah. Sounds pretty cool. Yeah. Cool, huh? They sit around the campfire and they fart.
Starting point is 01:01:36 They do a bunch of farts. But if you're a, you know, first of all, if you're an aspiring movie maker, they're not going to give you $200 million to make Avengers Endgame. But if you do want, if you are, you know, going to make that movie, there's not, as a director, there's not a lot of creative choices you can make. No.
Starting point is 01:01:54 They give you $200 million and you have to make it exactly how they want based on demographics. And there's certain stars involved. Yes, exactly. Everything is outside of your hands. But I think the resurgence in horror is happening because people, you know, in the mainstream, because we're not horror guys really, but it's because you can just have an idea and you get creative.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Thank you. You get to make creative choices. And what I liked about this movie specifically is it is basically what if one of these social deduction games, which in the real world people have personality clashes and real tensions come out and stuff like that, what if it escalated to a murderous degree? Absolutely. I think that's really interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:35 It's a bit of a whodunit, like who'd be doing this? Have I mentioned on the show that I played that one time years ago and we played like three rounds and I was completely tapped out. I'm like, this is too stressful. And then everybody else played one, like a fourth game or whatever, and somebody at one point said, I think you're the murderer and quite frankly I've never trusted you. It's one of those ones.
Starting point is 01:02:53 So I'm like, this is, of course, this is. Wow. They said it to you or said it to another person? Said it to somebody else, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was it? I can't even remember who they were. Wow. Maybe I do, I'll tell you later.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah, but speaking to what, like this probably cost two or three million and it's made 13 in cinemas. And that's just cinemas because it's, I'd imagine it's doing quite well. It's probably doing quite well on pirating as well. On the pirating service. Yeah, absolutely. But no, I just, I enjoy like the relationships in this and by that I mean like the toxic personalities and the toxic relationships
Starting point is 01:03:24 and like who's holding like a log grudge against another person who was sleeping together and, you know, and carried over and, you know. And, you know, there are a bunch of people who, you know, they think they're, you know, the relationship crumbled and they think they're in the right. But if you look at somebody else's perspective, they're in the right and all that sort of stuff. Exactly. Good cast.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Amandla Stenberg is Sophie, the main character, and we get Maria Bakalova as her girlfriend. Maria Bakalova, of course, was Borat's. She's Cosmo. She's going to be Cosmo the space dog. Oh, that's right. So she's Borat's daughter in Borat 2, and she's also in that Netflix movie, which you didn't see, where they're all in the bubble.
Starting point is 01:04:02 The bubble. The bubble, yeah. I did see the bubble. I watched the bubble. I remember watching it. I thought it wasn't as bad as the bubble. I watched the bubble. I remember watching it. I thought it wasn't as bad as everybody said. I thought it had some good moments in it. I liked it too.
Starting point is 01:04:10 I thought it was fun. But for me, the biggest names in this, Maria Bakalov, we've got Pete Davidson and Lee Pace. Yes. But for the most part, I don't recognise most of these people, which I think was to its credit. Completely, yeah. A lot of people know who Rachel Sennett is,
Starting point is 01:04:23 but whatever she is out of my wheelhouse, I think. Completely, yeah. A lot of people know who Rachel Sennett is, but I'm whatever she is out of my wheelhouse, I think. Okay, fair enough. But she was very good, I think, as Lee Pace's girlfriend. Well, Lee Pace is her boyfriend, isn't she? Apparently, yes, she's a comedian. There you go. Yeah, there you go. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:04:35 That's good fun. No, I enjoyed it, and if we're going to do spoilers, I would say if there's probably, I think there's maybe a little too much wandering around in the dark with a phone. In this movie about wandering around in the dark with a phone. In this movie about wandering around in the dark with a phone? Yeah, but I mean just like a little bit too much. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Well, what is the correct ratio of just for you? I don't know. There were moments when I'm like, I get it. Okay, sure. But that's like a very minor quibble. Maybe that's because I was looking at my phone too much, which also this movie often, you know, it's kind of. It makes you think, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:05:02 Maybe I'm at fault here. But I really thought like it had me going like who is this okay i think i've now i think i've kind of narrowed it down and then like as people uh you know disappearing or dying or dying off it is like i i you're like okay well i guess i'm not really sure who this is and then you know when they whittle it down to like a few left the reveal i thought was very satisfying i know i think that some people would be like that wasn't satisfying spoilers can we do spoilers mason yeah best movie ever yeah this is definitely out on streaming in places i think if you're in australia it's at it's at the movies but yeah you can you take a little trip on a weekday why not because everybody's got weekday days off well it turns
Starting point is 01:05:43 out that there's no killer oh spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers. Spoilers. There's no killer, and by that I mean the initial killing, which is Pete Davidson, is him trying to open the cork of a champagne bottle with a samurai sword, and he accidentally cuts his own throat. It's a kukri. It's not a samurai sword.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Thank you very much. I appreciate that. You're welcome. I did watch this a few weeks back, and I didn't note down the type of sword mason. It's not really a sword. It's more a big knife. It's more a big knife. It's more a machete.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Isn't a sword just a big knife, though? How dare you? Wow, we're going to get sword guys. Oh, yeah. We're going to get that famous sword guy on YouTube. The YouTube sword guy. What's that guy's name? It's like sword.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Shadowversity. Yeah, great. Shadowversity is going to come at us. Have you ever watched any of those? Yeah, I think they're fun. I bet you get recommended them. You're a big fan, yeah. But from there, there is a bunch of killings.
Starting point is 01:06:26 It's just his station ID goes, Shadow of Arachatay. Oh, very good. It's pretty exciting, isn't it? But there is killing that happens, but those either seem to be accidental or paranoid people killing each other because they're looking for a killer who isn't there.
Starting point is 01:06:43 It was a real fun release of tension when we get to the end. Because obviously he wants to knock the, you know, there's a foreshadowing at the start because Lee Pace can do that. Yeah, cool. He can, of course, knock a top of a bottle off with a samurai sword. And Pete Davidson's character wants to be that guy kind of thing. And he kills himself. But, yeah, at the end I thought that was great,
Starting point is 01:07:07 just the idea that just that sinking realisation when they're like, oh, this all happened. What have we done? I, you know, want a character to be like, yeah, I hit that, I hit Lee Pace in the back of the head with a big weight and killed him. Yeah. I hit him so many times. Yeah, for no reason.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Whenever anyone is running around in this kind of movie I'm always like, don't you hit, you'll hit your head. And they. Yeah. So, yeah. Whenever anyone is running around in this kind of movie, I'm always like, you'll hit your head. And they do. They do, yeah. You'll fall down the centre of stairwells.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Don't run around at night time. Yeah, don't do it. You'll trip, you'll hit your head. You'll trip your head. It's no good, mate, especially with all the drugs and et cetera. That's right. Yeah. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Should we move on to the next one? We should. I thought that was good. So what we've done here is we've really, what we came up with, I think, was a horror thriller. Yep thought that was good. So what we've done here is we've really, what we came up with, I think, was a horror thriller. Yep. A pure horror. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:50 And just sort of more a dramatic thriller. And that's the one we've got here, which is Australia's Own. That's right. Netflix. Netflix's Own. Has released The Stranger, which is starring and directed by? Thomas M. Wright. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:08:03 But it's starring. Directed and wrote this. Right. It's starring Joel Edgerton? Thomas M. Wright. Okay, right. But it's starring. Directed and wrote this. Right. It's starring Joel Edgerton and Sean Harris. Yes. And the titular stranger. What do you think the story was? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Sean Harris is a bloody down on his luck bloke and he's just sort of. He's always wandering about. He's just wandering about. Looking for work. He's a real drifter looking for work. He's wandering about. He's just wandering about. He's looking for work.
Starting point is 01:08:24 He's a real drifter looking for work. And on a long bus ride, he meets a bloke who introduces him to another bloke. And they're like, you want to do some crime? He's like, oh, yeah, I wouldn't mind doing a bit of crime. I don't kill people, but I'll do a crime. I'll do a bit of crime. And Joel Edgerton's like, all right. Joel Edgerton's the other guy. He's the other guy.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And he's like, well, we need somebody to do a bit of crime. You want to do a bit of crime? He's like, yeah, all right, I'll do a bit of crime. But then it turns out maybe not all is as it seems with everybody. No. And without giving too much away. This is also based on a true story. This is based on true story.
Starting point is 01:08:52 And by based, I mean pretty accurate to a thing that really happened involving real people. Like it was a real event in Australia. And I didn't know this going into this. No, no, no. But it was a disappearance of a kid called Daniel Morecambe in like the early 2000s. Oh, yeah. And the whole thing is centered around that. didn't know this going into this but it was a disappearance of a kid called daniel morcom in like the early 2000s oh yeah and the whole thing is centered around that and not like
Starting point is 01:09:09 that's that's the kid like yeah it's the real people like involved in this story like the real guy who did it and all of this and now they now they caught him etc and so forth and i can't really say anything else about that without going into spoilers because the well it doesn't actually at first i'm like for like 20 minutes i didn't really you don't know what you're watching yes that's true you're like okay down on his like oh i kind of like this guy he's just looking for work oh a crime guy i don't know about this crime guy maybe that's not a good idea to get in with this let me tell you about this i look i love joel legend and everything i think that's a great performance joel legend and just generally we'll just generally. We'll just talk about this briefly, I think, but it is on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I assume it's on American Netflix as well. There's no way it wouldn't be. I think it's called Yankee Doodle Dandy Netflix over there. Oh, that's great. Did you know that? No. Yeah, it's true. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Yeah, yeah. The logo's crazy. I bet. Lassoes and cowboy hats. Cactuses wearing hats. Six shooters, spurs on your boots. Pretty good. And instead of going, ta-doom, it goes, wee-hoo.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Wee. Yeehaw. Yeehaw. There we go. But Sean Harris provides, I would say, the most realistic depiction I've ever seen on screen of that kind of guy. Completely agree.
Starting point is 01:10:23 I meet a lot of these kind of guys. I know you do. I used to when I traveled more. But it's so profoundly accurate to this kind of guy. I don't know if it would translate as well to America, but it's just he's kind of sketchy and the stories he tells and like. The vibes. The vibe and how he like big notes himself.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Yeah. The way he talks. And you feel bad because you're like, this is clearly like a troubled person who has a bad, who has had a bad life. And it has, and how it has, you know, like you said, like you don't know what's going on initially and you're like, how does this evolve? Like there's no excuse for what these kind of guys do like generally but you get you get why they got there it's like probably they were raised in like poverty and whatever
Starting point is 01:11:12 their parents were and their parents were it's like he's not going to go to uni and get his accounting degree or whatever like this is this is the best he could ever do kind of thing and it's like so it's such a kind of like confronting and like conflicted viewer you've got of this guy but just like and he nails the accent too yeah he really does like he's the bad guy in some of So it's such a kind of like confronting and like conflicted viewer you've got of this guy. And he nails the accent too. Yeah, he really does. He's the bad guy in some of the Mission Impossible movies. Yeah, he's in Rogue Nation and Fallout. The one after Rogue Nation.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Yeah, yeah. You wouldn't know, I think, if I'd never seen him before, I'd be like, yeah, of course he's Australian, this guy. Yeah. Also, Sean Harris, I was like, I should look up some stuff about Sean Harris. You should find out what he's doing. Find out what this dude's up to.
Starting point is 01:11:46 What's he up to? He's one of those guys that's like a blank, like he doesn't, like on his Wikipedia page, born 1965 or 1966. He's 56 or he's 57. Like there's no, there's no, he clearly like stays out of the spotlight. Where's he from? He is from, he's from Woodbridge in Suffolk in England. But once again, I have watched all those Jay Foreman videos
Starting point is 01:12:14 about London and England and maps and what have you and I couldn't tell you anything about the geography of England. I don't understand it. Sure. Where's London? Where's Shrewsbury? Where is Shrewsbury? I've been there.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Is Bathgate – is that why they have the same names? Was Bathgate an incident? Oh. Oh. My goodness. Anyway, he's great. Great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:32 All right, spoilers? Spoilers. Best movie ever. Best movie ever, for sure. Yeah. I feel like I often say this, but, like, it's not, you won't enjoy it, but it's a very good movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:42 And really well written and excellent performances. And it's very very good movie. Yeah. And really well written and excellent performances. And it's very tense but. Not in the way that like someone's going to get shot or. Yeah. Get their, you know, get their head cut off. Because like there's no. Those aren't the stakes. There's no shootouts.
Starting point is 01:13:00 There's no chases. There's no. Oh, yeah. Maybe I didn't like this. Maybe you didn't like it. There's no big lasers shooting into or out of the sky. No, not that I saw. You know. Yeah. There's no. Oh, yeah. Maybe I didn't like this. Maybe you didn't like it. There's no big lasers shooting into or out of the sky. No, not that I saw. You know?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Yeah. That's right. So basically. Nobody said that just happened. Nobody even said that. Yeah. So this guy who's on the bus and he's kind of, you feel bad for him. He's down on his luck and he's lonely.
Starting point is 01:13:20 He is part of something that police have coined. It's got different names, but it's called a Mr. Big Police Operation. That's right. I'm just going to read this out because it's a better explanation of how I would explain it. This is what he's caught up in. This is what he gets placed into. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:35 So police officers create a fictitious grey area or criminal organisation and then seduce the suspect into joining it. They build a relationship with the suspect, gain their confidence, and then enlist their help in a succession of criminal acts, e.g. delivering goods, credit card scams, and selling guns, for which they are paid. Once the suspect has become enmeshed in the criminal gang, then they are persuaded to divulge information about the criminal history
Starting point is 01:13:57 using usually as a prerequisite for being accepted as a member of the organization. So this guy in real life, They think he murdered a kid. They think, yeah. They're pretty confident that he did. His alibi is like shaky as fuck. Nothing ever came of it. They never found the body.
Starting point is 01:14:13 They don't know what happened to this kid. And so it's just like this nine levels deep police operation where every person that he interacts with, and this happened, is a police officer playing a role. And Joel Edgerton for months, again, real guy, had to pretend to be this guy's like mate. Well, I think they were probably mates in real life. You're referring to the character.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Oh, yeah. One character had to pretend to be another character's mate. And you feel bad because the criminal guy, before you know what he did, is like, I don't get a chance to talk to be another character's mate. And you feel bad because the criminal guy, before you know what he did, is like, I don't get a chance to talk to anybody, I'm lonely and all of this. And it really just twists on you when you find out the reason why they're looking for this guy.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And initially I'm like, is this even true? Yeah, yeah. Is this the guy that did it? Yeah, because before the reveal that like Joel Edgerton is a cop and everybody else is a cop and what have you, you're like, oh, mate, don't. Turn your life around, mate. Come on, mate.
Starting point is 01:15:15 You said that you can't do violence because you go back to – but then you find out the reason that he said that he changed his name and that he can't, you know, do he can't you know do violence anymore you find out it's because he like beat up another kid so that was the reason like you you think that he just beat up a guy maybe in a bar fight or whatever but he's like he's a horrible person and has been his entire life yeah and just the way that they unravel him is just incredible. And also, as I'm watching it, this criminal organisation, I'm like, what crimes are these? Because it's so vague.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Yeah, right. A lot of passports. Yeah, and just like dropping whatever off. But I'm like, what is this? And the point is, it's nothing. Yeah. It's just the whole thing is made up. And that like Joel Edgerton, like it's clearly affecting
Starting point is 01:16:04 his character's mind. Yeah, and he's got whole thing is made up. And that, like, Joel Edgerton, like, it's clearly affecting his character's mind. Yeah, and he's got a young kid as well. And there's a moment where they, you know, they're – and he has to keep embodying this character and keeping this persona, which I guess is sort of becoming his persona. Because once you do something, ironically, it starts to become your real personality. You're growing your hat backwards.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Or calling people bro, bro. But there's a moment where, like, they're both in the car and they're yes you know they're they're in a hurry and so like they're they're gonna come on move on and they honking the horn and then the car in front of them gets into a car accident yeah they're just like well we gotta go though yeah i'm pretending to be a criminal and a criminal wouldn't stick around a cop would stick around yeah exactly awful yeah and again it feels like the way they would they would the way the police sort of grind somebody down in Australia, which is just them sitting in a room and going, come on, mate.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Come on, mate. Come on, mate. Do us a favour. Come on, mate. Just do us a favour. Come on, mate. Do us a favour, mate. Come on, mate.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Goddamn. Spooky movies, mate. Spooky movies, mate. Come on, mate. Come on, mate. You know that more than anybody. Anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Anyway, if you haven't seen it, you didn't listen to this. But you get still totally wet watching. Just so dark and grim as well. Like nothing happens. Stuff happens in the daytime, but it never seems to happen in the daytime. It's all in like dimly lit like motels. And other cops who were supposed to be members of this organisation
Starting point is 01:17:22 are bad at pretending to be criminals and you're like, what is this guy doing? Fudging his lines. Yeah, get it together. God. Yeah. And I guess also the guy who did it is not super intelligent because he never seemed to cotton on to any of this.
Starting point is 01:17:39 But I guess also just looking for acceptance and looking for a role. But, yeah, great movie, horrible story. Yeah. Yeah. Which I guess like because I'm always, generally speaking, I'm like, we were talking about this off air, I don't like true crime podcasts or anything like that. I'm like this is too grisly.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Yeah. And I guess, you know, and look, I guess I'm eating my words. But I guess this isn't like we don't see anything happen. We don't see any kids being murdered or whatever. No, and they don't really delve into the, you know, a lot of those things that's like in the cut the body off like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. They really kind of revel in it and it doesn't feel like that.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Well, exactly. I mean, I don't know what the family of the kid thinks of this. Maybe they're like this is horrendous. I think they probably do. Yeah. I think I believe they were like stop. They may have said something along the lines of like stop telling people this is based on a true story or whatever, like don't.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Oh, God, okay. Yeah, fair enough. But, yeah, like this is, like they don't revel in it in this. It's just like. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Should we do Barbarian? And it premiered at the Cannes Film Festival. Did you know that? Oh, really? Under the Un Certain Regard section. I wonder what that means. I don't know. Probably have a bit of a gander at this.
Starting point is 01:18:50 What do you think of this? Yeah, have a bit of a gander, mate. What do you reckon about this? Come on, mate. Have a look. Un Certain Regard. Like what you see? Right?
Starting point is 01:18:57 Yeah. Bit of that. Wrap your bloody laughing gear around this, I would say. Un Certain Regard is a section of the Cannes Film Festival's official selection, that's it. Yeah. The name means a certain glance and the section presents 20 films with unusual styles and non-traditional stories
Starting point is 01:19:13 seeking international recognition. I wonder how this would have gone at the movies. Now not good, but like 10, 15 years ago, I think it could have done all right. Well, there are limited screens. You can't see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But why would you?
Starting point is 01:19:23 Because it's on Netflix and it's free. That's true. Anyways, Barbarian, You can't see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But why would you? Because it's on Netflix and it's free. That's true. Anyways, Barbarian, directed by Zach Kreger. Yeah, who was a former member. I learned this today. Whitest Kids. The Whitest Kids You Know. Check out some Whitest Kids You Know sketches on YouTube if you want.
Starting point is 01:19:35 And check out Mason when he tells us what do you think the story was. Oh, no. All right. Well, here's the thing. Yeah. Don't listen to any of this. Yep. Look, this was pitched to any of this. Yep. Look, this was pitched to me and you and pretty much everybody on Twitter as.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Don't even think about it. Don't even think about looking anything up. Don't watch any trailers. Don't wiki it or go to IMDB or anything or read Twitter about it. If you see the hashtag barbarian, don't click on it or whatever. And I think that is probably true. I think I was probably looking for like I thought it was going to boggle my mind more than it perhaps did based on that.
Starting point is 01:20:10 But I think just the very nature of it, I'm like, yeah, you probably shouldn't. I think there is a point where it turns and that's like the biggest reveal, really. Once it turns into another thing, then I don't think there's not really, then it just plays out. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:26 So very short intro if you're still here. I am. A woman goes to Detroit. She's there to interview for a job. There's an Airbnb in a very sketchy neighborhood, and she arrives there only to find there's somebody already there. What I found fascinating about that, like that it's sketchy, you don't know it's sketchy until like you see it.
Starting point is 01:20:48 In daytime, yeah. And then you're like, oh, no. This is terrible. The darkness is hiding a bloody bunch of stuff. Graffiti and so forth. Yeah, the band. Anyway, there's another man there and it seems to be some sort of double booking and they're like, okay, we'll just work.
Starting point is 01:21:06 We'll come in. We'll work it out in the morning. What's going to happen? What's going to happen, mate? What's this guy's deal? What's her deal? Is this a coincidence? Is it somebody setting up an elaborate thing?
Starting point is 01:21:18 Barbarian. Is it a barbarian? Is it a barbarian situation? Is this the classic barbarian gambit? Yeah. The name would certainly suggest that, wouldn't it? Yeah. What does the barbarian refer to?
Starting point is 01:21:28 I guess we'll talk about it in Spoilers, Mason. Yeah, but this actually started. He wrote it. When I caught Fester farted. Very good. He started as a, and Halloween appropriate also, where Zach Krieger wrote, he wanted to write a scene where a woman is basically presented with a whole lot of red flags and then keeps like, and keeps pushing through.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Cause I think a lot of people, and in particular women, though not exclusively, but mostly women, Mason, is they're kind of told to ignore, taught to ignore red flags and be nice and all of these things. And I can't remember, what's the book called about the fear-based book? It's called like this, something like this. The Necronomicon? No. That's a fear-based book, I feel.
Starting point is 01:22:11 What's this called? Hang on. The Gift of Fear. And it's basically about how, listen to that animal part of your brain because it normally knows, you know, when you see somebody approaching you and you're like, and you don't know why, but you're like, I don't feel good about this and you might take a different direction and whatever. Yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 01:22:26 It's basically listening to that part of your brain. But I think people are conditioned, women in particular, like they're told to like, you know, be more trusting and be nice. And if a weird person comes up to you, just be nice and whatever, where you can really just be, hey, no, I'm not going to do this. I was listening to a podcast.
Starting point is 01:22:42 I was just trying to place it, but I was listening to a podcast this week. It's called Being Hot Is Hard. It's from Sands Pants. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's Cass Page and Nino Yama and Zoe B. And Zoe B was talking about in the most recent episode I listened to about how she stopped laughing at people's jokes if they're not funny
Starting point is 01:22:59 because it's sort of ingrained into women especially who, out of politeness, if a man tells you a joke, you go, ah, even if it's sort of ingrained into women especially who out of politeness if a man tells you a joke, you go, ah, even if it's not. And apparently it like boggles people's minds. So she was like, she was telling her mum like, I'm not going to laugh at something unless it's funny. And then the dad made a joke that wasn't funny. She's like, I'm not going to.
Starting point is 01:23:20 And the dad was like, that's very confronting actually. That you do that now. You know, good call. Yeah, get funnier. Get funnier, people making jokes. But, yeah, you're absolutely right. And, yeah, look, just I think the casting's good for reasons we'll get into and spoilers, I think.
Starting point is 01:23:37 It's quite a small cast. It's funny. This movie's funny. It is funny, yeah. Which I didn't expect going in. I thought this was going to be very, just very dry probably. And there's a lot of like, hey, don't do that. Hey, stop.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Just don't. There's a lot of that. But I think it masks a lot of that well, of like why your phone doesn't work, why you would go a certain direction, why somebody wouldn't believe you for a certain thing and whatever. But apparently though after, after writing. Some of that is very realistic.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Like, I think the interaction with the police. Yeah, absolutely. In this movie. Yeah. Like, yeah, OK. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get into it.
Starting point is 01:24:14 But I think, yeah, apparently with this one scene, though, he was frustrated by, like, the predictability of it. So decided to, like, flip it into something else. And you definitely see that in this movie. I just think, yeah, this kind of the slow escalation of what is happening. It just, the tension builds and there is like, not even so much what is going on. It's more like, where is this going? Yeah, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:24:36 And you can't really see it until it happens. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, spoilers, I guess. Okay. I'm going to say best movie ever, of course. Yeah. It's on, I believe it's on streaming on HBO Max in the US. Yeah. On Australia,, I guess. Okay, I'm going to say best movie ever, of course. Yeah, it's on, I believe it's
Starting point is 01:24:46 on streaming on HBO Max in the US. Yeah, on Australia it's... And in cinemas. Everywhere and whatever as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beta Max. It's on a Beta Max. Anyway, the twist is, okay, the story is a woman turns up at the Airbnb as mentioned.
Starting point is 01:25:01 And Bill Skarsgård's there and you're like, that's Pennywise the Clown. That's the guy from the clan. This guy could be a mentioned. And Bill Skarsgård's there and you're like, that's Pennywise the Clown. That's the guy from The Clown. This guy could be a psychopath. Yeah. And it seems like all these stories are really convenient. Yeah. Like, oh, you worked for this, you're into about this. Well, I actually worked for this.
Starting point is 01:25:15 And I'm like, that's bullshit, obviously. Right. Anyway, she finds out. He could be a psychopath at any moment. Yeah. Up until his head is bashed into a wall. Over and over and over again. Like every single moment where he's like, just stay,
Starting point is 01:25:29 just have a glass of wine, just do this. Why don't you take the bed and I'll stay out here. Yeah, I'm just making noises over here on the couch. You should approach me kind of thing. And then it's like, oh, is there something in the basement? That sounds. Why don't you come down with me and check it out and whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Yeah. So you think that he's like luring her into some kind of trap. Even at the moment where he's like, he's screaming and panicking. He's like, you can't go back that way. We have to go a different way. I'm like, no, don't do that. This is still a trick, I think. And then inbred ghoul of a woman just jumps out of the shadows
Starting point is 01:26:06 and smashes his head in. She is sick to death of laughing at men's jokes where they're not funny. So he's that way. Yeah. And it turns out, we see a little flashback from the 80s, I guess. Yeah, from the early 80s. Where it turns out a man was abducting women and producing children and then doing lots of murders and
Starting point is 01:26:27 has produced ultimately this barbarian, I guess. Oh, he's the barbarian? He's the barbarian. Maybe Justin Long is the barbarian. That's true, exactly. And so he's 40, so the woman is 40 years old, but her mind has been, she's been living underground under this house. I actually think she looks great for 40 years old. I don't know if she does, Mason.
Starting point is 01:26:48 I don't want to shame anybody. No, she looks, in fact, I think she looks great without makeup, honestly. That's a different conversation. I don't want my illusion shattered, okay? So her father's still alive but clearly riddled with cancer or something, so he's also living under there. And a bad vibe. And a bad vibe. And a bad vibe.
Starting point is 01:27:06 He's got a big bad vibe. And so she is capturing people and trying to be a mother to them. She's got this breastfeeding tape on repeat. Yeah. So that's what she's doing to the people who she captures. But after Bill Skarsgård, if it is. He's obliterated. He's obliterated.
Starting point is 01:27:23 It cuts to Hollywood. Yes. Yeah. And that's probably 40, 50 minutes in. I nearly got, I think I mentioned this to you, but I nearly got spoiled for this movie. That trailer. Because there was a barbarian trailer and I watched like 10 seconds and I'm like, nah, shouldn't do it. I won't watch it. Yeah. And then I saw another
Starting point is 01:27:40 trailer like a few days later that was like Justin Long's new movie. And it was just a thumbnail of him driving the Pacific Coast Highway or whatever in his little sports car and I click that and I'm like, oh, I love Justin Long. This is great. He was a Mac. Remember?
Starting point is 01:27:53 Oh, the Mac guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was in Ed. Oh, this is Barbarian again. He's sons of bitches and I stopped it again. But, yeah, so we cut to Justin Long and he's a sitcom star and he gets dumped from a pilot because of assault allegations. Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Which are true. Which are true, it seems. And then he decides in order to make some money. And survive the court case, the looming court case. He's going to have to. And clear his name, his good name. Yeah. He's going to have to liquidate some of his incredible Airbnb properties,
Starting point is 01:28:23 including the one in. That question though. Yeah. Who set up the Airbnb bookings? Well, they – you can – the company can do it. I know, but who did it though? Like who – Like who –
Starting point is 01:28:35 Because when Justin Long's character speaks to his various managers, they're like there wasn't any bookings. So somebody must have set them up. Maybe they did. Maybe the guy under the house had an iPhone. Maybe the guy under the house maybe had an iPhone. No, I don't know. I. So somebody must have set them up. Maybe they did. Maybe the guy under the house had an iPhone. Maybe the guy under the house maybe had an iPhone. No, I don't know. I honestly don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Okay, right. Somebody will know. Somebody will know. Someone who paid more attention. Yeah, but I mean, because also normally enough in Airbnb, even if it's completely out of your hands, they organize the cleaning and all that, and that hadn't happened. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:28:59 So I just assumed that they thought the person was still there because the money was still coming out. Oh, I see. I don't know. I don't know. It's probably a better answer that I missed. So, yeah, so he realized he needs to sell this place and then you're like, oh, okay, so that's how it's connected.
Starting point is 01:29:13 So he goes to this house and everything is left exactly as it was, the chair propping up and the basement door. And just the levels of that basement is just like there's the basement and you're like, this is an awful place. And then there's a secret door and a basement and you're like, this is an awful place. And then there's a secret door and a corridor and you're like, this is awful. And at the end of that, there's a room with a VHS camera and an old dirty mattress and you're like, oh, this is no good.
Starting point is 01:29:38 And then there's another door that leads underground and goes for who knows how long, where the ghoul woman lives. And the corpses and what have you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's clearly coming up out of the house and out of there and, like, looking around when people are staying there. And the bit where Justin Long encounters the first bit of basement with the dirty mattress and the VHS,
Starting point is 01:30:00 and then it immediately cuts to him upstairs on his Mac going, like, I'm a Mac guy. Yeah, I'm a Mac guy. But then he's just like, okay, can I get more money out of this if there's more square footage? Do underground basements count as square footage in this? And I'm like, that's great. And then he's just measuring up.
Starting point is 01:30:14 And then when he finds the big underground corridor, he's like, even better. Great, look at this. Yeah. And then he eventually comes across the spooky girl woman. And then their worlds collide because of Justin Long and the woman. What's her name again?
Starting point is 01:30:28 Who plays? Great question, James. We're bad with names. All right. Is it Sean Harris? It's Georgia Campbell. I think she's in the Black Mirror episode about the dating and whatever.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Oh. Yeah, she's got a logo. Unless she's not in that, but I'm pretty sure that she is. Okay, great. Yeah, she's in Hang the DJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good episode. Great stuff. unless she's not in that, but I'm pretty sure that she is. Okay, great. Yeah, she's in Hang the DJ. It's a good episode.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Great stuff. So, yeah, and you also, they nearly redeem him. There's a moment where like he, well, he shot her at one point and he's kind of doing cowardly acts, but he realizes what the old man in there is doing and what he has been doing and he's like, you're a monster and how could you do this? And there's a moment of self-reflection where he's like, you know what? I did this terrible thing and I'm going to own up to it. I'm going to turn my life around.
Starting point is 01:31:13 And then it just kind of, and then when push comes to shove. When push becomes a shove, yeah, exactly. It just comes apart. Like he just, you think maybe for a second he's going to, you know, he's going to make some effort. Become a hero. Yeah, but no, he doesn't, which I liked also because some people just, I don't know how I'd react.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Maybe I'd completely crumble also in this scenario. I'd simply defeat the woman, I think. Yeah? What would you do? Probably a hammer or a rock? Yeah, maybe even just my bare hands, I reckon. Yeah, and then I would probably contact Airbnb and get a full refund. You'd have to.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Yeah. But you talked about – And maybe a credit in my account so I could go somewhere else for free. You talked about that bit where – because she gets out. Yes. And Justin Long's still trapped and so she's trying to figure out how to – I'm going to let the dog in. Yeah, let the dog in.
Starting point is 01:32:00 She wants to go back in to get him so she goes and finds the police officers. But she's been living underground for like two weeks. And she looks terrible and it's in a terrible neighbourhood and they just assume she's just some kind of drug addict or whatever or she's lying. She's not worth their time. Yeah, exactly. And as a result, you know, she's kind of drawn back into the house to save the Justin Long character and I thought all that was
Starting point is 01:32:23 because once she's out, you're like, oh, great. Now something else could happen. Yeah, because there's a homeless man who earlier in the movie runs at her as she's about to go into the house and you think he's a, you're like, okay, well, maybe he's something to do with whatever is happening in this awful neighbourhood. But no, he's trying to warn her because he's seen this.
Starting point is 01:32:42 He's seen her, this woman. And his reward, he gets his arm torn off and gets beaten to death with it. Yes, exactly. And there's a moment also where, so Justin Long throws her off like a water tower because the spooky ghoul woman is like attached to her and sees her as a child. So she sacrifices herself, you think, to save her. And then she digs out Justin Long's eyes.
Starting point is 01:33:04 So goopy. And then splits his head apart. I think they made her too strong. Do you think to save her. And then she digs out Justin Long's eyes. So goopy. And then splits his head apart. I think they made her too strong. Do you think so? Yeah, I think there's like a supernatural element to this. Right, okay. Which doesn't, I mean, maybe if you live underground and you've been doing all of these things.
Starting point is 01:33:18 There's different gravity underground. So that's probably it. I don't know. I think she's a bit too like. Yeah, I understand where you're going with it. But I guess we're going with, yeah, because that's probably it. I don't know. I think she's a bit too like. Yeah, I understand where you're going with it. Yeah. But I guess we're going. It's not a big deal really.
Starting point is 01:33:26 I guess we're going with, yeah, because that's the thing. It turns it from, I mean, it never really feels like the real world, but it does turn it from, okay, well, that's. That just happened. Yeah, there are horrible, you know, we've heard of stories of stuff like this of like people keeping secret families underground and all that sort of stuff, and it's super weird. But it turns it from like, okay, well, inbreeding makes,
Starting point is 01:33:52 you can build a super strong monster. Yeah. It kind of makes it, you're right, it becomes sort of supernatural in some way, I guess. Yeah. Or like junk science-y, I suppose. But it's really not a big deal. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:04 You know, it is what it is. really not a big deal. Yeah, yeah. It is what it is. It's good. Yeah. Also, the giant lady would probably have like a vitamin D deficiency because she's only going out at night. Yeah, well, that's true. She'd never even be looking at the sun. And she also does survive that being hit with a car.
Starting point is 01:34:18 With a car, yeah. Through a house. Through a house, yeah. That'll do it. That'll do it, won't it? Yeah. Well, anyway, two, sorry, three good movies, I feel. Three good movies, I feel.
Starting point is 01:34:27 All different. All different. We've picked different movies. We've done it. We didn't go with Terrifier 2 about the murderous clown. Very splattery, apparently, and also really long. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Well, good then. That's right. And we didn't go with Hulu Hellraiser. We didn't. Maybe I'll talk about that in some of the weeks if I watch that. I do want to check out Hulu Hellraiser at some point. Terrifier 2 is two and a half hours long. Well, that's nearly as long as all the Marvel movies.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Right. Put together. Put together. Should we move on, Mason? Yes. Well, if you had to pick one, what would you pick? I don't know if I want to watch any of them again. No.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Damn. For me, it's between Barbarian and The Stranger, I think. And they bring you completely different things. Yeah, they do, yeah. I mean, not that Body's Body Body. No, I liked it a lot. Not that Body Body Body was bad. I thought, I don't know, it's just.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Sick of social media. Maybe. I mean, maybe by the nature of the fact that all the characters in that are horrible. Yeah. And in the other, I guess everybody's horrible in The Stranger as well. as well but not everybody's horrible in barbarian there's one person who's not horrible that's true there's two people who are not horrible yeah maybe yeah maybe i mean maybe bill skarsgård character is awful like you don't know like we don't know anything about it he was a
Starting point is 01:35:38 creep yeah and he was maybe he did maybe he did set it up yeah i. Maybe that's why they didn't know. Maybe. Maybe he was like, yeah, great, I'm going to do some really bad stuff. Secret house and whatever. And then he just happened to be in a pre-built murder house already. Yeah, that'll get you. Yeah. All right, cool, Mason.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Should we move on? Let's move on. Do you have any idea what we're doing? In life? No. But on this podcast, I can say confidently. Yep. What we're going to read.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Yay. Yeah. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? What have you been doing? That's a great question. Yeah. I mean, we've been pretty busy watching a billion trillion horror movies.
Starting point is 01:36:27 It's true. Gosh, you know what I've been watching a lot? I don't actually. And we mentioned- This segment is about me and other people finding out. Oh, really? You're interrogating me about my secrets. What do you know?
Starting point is 01:36:38 I know heaps actually. I know heaps actually. I reckon I know heaps more than you, quite frankly. That sounds like a guy who doesn't know heaps. No, I know heaps. Ask me about anything. I'm reading a book a day. You know those guys? I get up and I read a book a day.
Starting point is 01:36:49 I've learned a method where I skim and I don't actually retain any of that information. But I've convinced myself that it counts as reading. It's all economics, isn't it? It's all you read in economics books. And I'm learning about supply and demand. I'm learning about inflation. You can't raise anybody's wages because then prices will go up.
Starting point is 01:37:07 That's a great point. And some might say that prices are going up anyway. Yeah, but imagine if you raised the wages. Imagine though. Can you imagine? I can't. Yeah. You couldn't even get a Pizza Hut.
Starting point is 01:37:18 It would be too expensive. You couldn't even get a Pizza Hut. The franchise. You couldn't even buy a Pizza Hut. Your dad couldn't even buy you a Pizza Hut franchise. Your dad couldn't even buy you a Pizza Hut franchise. My dad would love to buy me a Pizza Hut, but in this economy, forget about it. I have to do this.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Also, it's not even worth buying a Pizza Hut franchise these days because they don't look like Pizza Huts anymore. We used to have real Pizza Huts in this country, James, with that weird roof. We used to build things. Pizza Huts. They're all $2 shops or something. I hate it.
Starting point is 01:37:43 No good. It doesn't look like a hut right it's like a hole in the wall pizza hole in the wall no thank you I don't know what I'm getting out of it put your arm in here
Starting point is 01:37:50 and maybe grab a pizza no maybe get bitten by a rabid dog I don't know I don't trust a pizza glory hole no sir no sir what were you talking about
Starting point is 01:37:59 oh yeah what have you been doing I've been doing a few things I've been reading as I mentioned I've been listening as I mentioned to I've been listening, as I mentioned, to the podcast Being Hot is Hard,
Starting point is 01:38:08 which I think is very good and entertaining. And it's like a world that I'm completely unfamiliar with because it's about, I think there's value in it for blokes to listen about it. It's about, like, beauty and the beauty industry and all that sort of stuff and, you know. I haven't listened to it, but I have downloaded episodes. The amount of work that goes into being hot, as we would well know. I'm well aware, Mason.
Starting point is 01:38:30 All our moisturizers and so forth. A lot of moisturizers. And make sure you've got an SPF in your moisturizer as well. I've mentioned this on our Jason X commentary, but I have been going through a bunch of Matt McMussell's videos on YouTube. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He does a series, I think we mentioned, called What Happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Where he talks about various video games and movies that were disasters and he does sort of a historical deep dive on why that happened. He certainly does, Mason. Very fun, I think. And in addition to that, if you love that, we've got our commentary at BigSandwich.co. But also this week the book club is on Something is Killing the Children. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Which is a horror comic. That's right. So you can check that out if you want. Because it's the spookiest time of year, which as I understand you were talking about tax time? Yeah, I was. That's great. In relation to, yeah. So this week it's, I've got it ready to go here on What Happened? It's Dante's Inferno. Oh yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 01:39:19 I saw that coming out. That's exciting. Check that out. The God of War knockoff that actually might be quite good. Yeah. Which I think for like three years I was like, should I get this? Should I get it? Is it PSP? Should I get it?
Starting point is 01:39:30 Should I get this one? Should I get it? Anyway, I didn't get it. I never got it. Wow. Yeah, so there you go. Wow. Well, why have you been doing all that, Mason?
Starting point is 01:39:37 Yeah, what have you been doing? I've been watching six episodes of the latest Star Wars Tales of the Jedi animated series. Tell me about it. So there's three episodes. Tell me about it, stud. Three episodes. Thank you. You're welcome.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Focusing on Count Dooku. That's always locked and loaded for me, by the way. You've got to be careful who you use that on as well. No, no. Indiscriminate. There's three episodes that focus on young-ish Dooku. Yep. And three on Ahsoka.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Now, it does do some like filling the gaps. Hello, I'm young-ish Dooku. Yeah. So it does Ahsoka. Now, it does do some, like, filling the gaps. Hello, I'm young Ishidoku. Yeah. Well, so it does, you see, like. Are they contemporaries then? Like, do they exist in the same time period? Yes, but I don't think they have much to do with each other. Yes, because she's in Climeworld.
Starting point is 01:40:16 She's in Climeworld, of course. But I don't think that. I'm sure they've interacted, but no, they don't have that much to do with each other. But there's a lineage there because he trained Qui-Gon, Qui-Gon trained Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan trained Anakin, Anakin trained Ahsoka. That's true.
Starting point is 01:40:28 And a lot of those people in that lineage are terrible. That's very true. So you find out kind of why Dooku is the way that he is. Like he was kind of like a Qui-Gon-ish guy. Like he's seeing like bad stuff happening in the Republic and he's like, we should do this something. And the Jedi Council are like, we're going to promote Mace Windu because he listened to us. Wow. And he's like, fuck you. Is something. And the Jedi Council are like, we're going to promote Mace Windu because he listened to us.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Wow. And he's like, fuck you. Is it because I have a red lightsaber? Come on. Is it because I look like a Dracula? Yeah. Fuck you. Sorry I don't look good in off-white and beige.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Young Qui-Gon is played by, well, Liam Neeson is in it as regular age Qui-Gon. And is this his son? Young Qui-Gon is played by Liam Neeson'seson is in it as regular age Qui-Gon. And is this his son? Young Qui-Gon is played by Liam Neeson's son. Okay. One of them is set during the Phantom Menace. So there's the moment where Dooku, like, finds out that there's the Phantom Menace. Right.
Starting point is 01:41:14 And. Who was? It was Darth Maul. Okay. And so. Still not clear. I'll forget about it. And, you know, we've talked about this, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:22 when we did the prequels for Caravan of Garbage, but the council don't believe him. So he's like, you can go sort it out. Go fight that war or whatever. And then afterwards they're like, actually, we think just between us, I think that was a Sith Lord. I think he was right. You're that guy that killed him. So Dooku's mad about that.
Starting point is 01:41:39 But Dooku also knows because he's already in league with Palpatine at this point. Right, okay. So that leads into a Yaddle episode where we find out basically what happens to Yaddle. And I think perhaps more importantly, and I know this without watching this, it turns out, well we do,
Starting point is 01:41:54 the biggest takeaway from this is that Yaddle talks normally, right? And he's Bryce Dallas Howard. So it turns out that Yoda's just a freak. Or what I did read is apparently the Knights of the Old Republic talked like that. May have talked this way, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Which is why he talks like that. Yeah. Hate it. Yeah, I hate it also. But anyway, it turns out that Yaddle is not as skilled as Yoda. It turns out. Oh, no. And like Ian McDermott is back.
Starting point is 01:42:18 I think the Ahsoka stuff is good, but I think the Dooku stuff is better. Right. Also, there's a moment where Ahsoka was tracked down by an Inquisitor. Okay. And that's quite a good battle. Yep. And to spoil it, I'm just going to spoil this particular bit. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:42:32 That's okay with me. The one episode I didn't love was the baby Ahsoka one. You find her when she's a baby and she gets taken by a saber-toothed tiger and then she uses the force and brings her back to a village or whatever the fuck, which is all fine. But there's a moment where the Inquisitor finds her. She. But there's a moment, so the Inquisitor finds her. She doesn't have her lightsabers and the Inquisitor's like, ho, ho, now I'm going to get a, people are going to love me for this.
Starting point is 01:42:51 You're only strong with two lightsabers. You haven't got any lightsabers. She had no lightsabers and then like tries to like hack her down and she just like wrecks him in like five seconds and just kills this guy, just like just barehanded. Nice. Well, no, no she gets the lightsaber off but it's great it's really good okay uh now i was under the impression that people
Starting point is 01:43:11 were mad but i guess this is a star wars i think that people might be mad because it maybe steps on some of the books or something i see but honestly i thought it was really good so and when you say steps on the books you mean some of the ones that are currently in canada yes there's an ahsoka book which apparently has a very similar story. She's tracked down by one book. Oh, I see. And it's like the same as this except everybody's called a different thing. Hey, guess what?
Starting point is 01:43:31 It's Legends. Yeah. So maybe that happened. Maybe it didn't happen. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Don't even worry about it. People are probably mad about this, but I think it's good.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Remember that guy Sleazebagano? Yeah. He's a strange guy. He's got the little... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. When are we getting tales of Sleazebagano? Tales of just him living a normal life because he hopefully cleaned himself up. Well, didn't he get jetty?
Starting point is 01:43:50 I reckon that worn off as soon as he walked outside. I think he'd take a cold shower. That would disappear. Well, I stopped selling death sticks, but I had to move on to space heroin. Just had to fill the void somehow. You got it, don't you? Yeah. Anyway, if you like Star Wars, Mason, and I know you do.
Starting point is 01:44:06 I do like Star Wars. And you like the character of Yaddle. Also, and I don't think this is out yet, but I was a guest on Do Go On. They're currently going through Blocktober and Blovember, which is, of course, the time. They've expanded it. That's right. They have expanded it massively.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Bigger studios, that makes sense. Yeah, that's true. They're biggest and most requested topics. So I wased it. That's right. They have expanded it massively. Bigger studios, that makes sense. Yeah, that's true. They're biggest and most requested topics. All serial killers. That's right. Serial killers and breakfast cereals. Have they done Kellogg's? I wonder if they have.
Starting point is 01:44:37 But I believe that will be out in a couple of weeks. Great, terrific. So everyone should check that out. They know what they're doing. And Matt Stewart's comedy special is up now as well. That's right. Stupid old YouTube channel. That's exciting. That's very exciting. Very doing. And Matt Stewart's comedy special is up now as well. That's right. The Stupid Old YouTube channel. That's exciting.
Starting point is 01:44:46 That's very exciting. Very exciting. Mason, let's move it along. Okay. But to what? Letters. Yeah, let's do it. Letters theme.
Starting point is 01:44:53 The classic one was Letters, oh letters We love you Some letters They're only A day away I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Mason. Go on. How you reach the show is by hashtagging hashtag weekly planet pod. Not hashtagging hashtag. Just hashtag weekly planet pod. I will find your tweets hopefully. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:18 I do run a search every week. Sometimes people tweet me directly or you directly and I'm like, oh, I'll bring that up, and then I forget. Whoa. But that way I'll most likely see it, hopefully. Nice. Or weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com. Do you want to hit the thing first?
Starting point is 01:45:35 Yeah, absolutely. This is from Ethan Huggins. Great name. Ooh. Hi, James and Mace. I've been listening to the pod for about seven years now, almost weekly without fail. I'm an aspiring writer and comedian in Tampa, Florida,
Starting point is 01:45:46 and I'm currently writing a new set. I was wondering what some of your favourite Aussie insults are. Don't worry, the person I'm writing about absolutely deserves them. Love the show and keep operating at 40%. Thanks, Ethan. Is this easy enough to talk about us, though? Is he just going to fire back an email with all our insults? Wow, you reckon this is a five-minute set about us?
Starting point is 01:46:02 And your kids don't even love you. Oh. I love, look look and again i i wouldn't use this in anger sure but it's always locked and loaded i love uh face like a bashed crab oh it's a good one it's a good one right i like cunning as a shithouse rat it's not really an insult it kind of is though isn't it yeah drongo is good yeah um just just just straight up fuck you is great. I know it's not. Yeah. Or fuck you, fuck off is great.
Starting point is 01:46:29 That's true. I know it's not Australian. We didn't invent it, but we perfected it, I feel like. Are you looking up a list of Australian songs? Wow, that's un-Australian, quite frankly. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, who doesn't like Bugger Off?
Starting point is 01:46:43 Sure, okay. That's one. Rack Off. Rack off. Rack off. Yeah. Swear like an Australian. I don't want just swearing. I want specifically insults.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Insults, yeah. Get stuffed. Oh, that's it. Great. Bugger off. Yeah, they've got go fuck yourself here. Is that? That's not Australian, surely.
Starting point is 01:47:02 I don't think we invented that. No. No, no, no, no, no, no. Struth, not an insult. Apparently dads is an insult, which is dumb as a dog. No, that's my dog. I've never heard that one. See, the thing about a lot of Australian sayings and insults,
Starting point is 01:47:15 I feel, is that some of them have evolved culturally and some were invented for ads and stuff. Absolutely. A fuckwit. That's Australian. That's very good. That's a good one. It's my wanker.
Starting point is 01:47:30 That's British as well. I don't know if we can claim that one. Darrow. Sure, yeah. That's on the list. Yeah. Drongo. Bogan.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Bogan can be an insult. Darrow. Slag or slagger, I guess. Oh, that's British. Yeah. Anyway, that's all the ones I've got here. If you've got any more here. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Email them in. Email your favorite Australian. Not at us, please. We can't take it. No, no, at us. Say you are and then put them in there. A wombat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Yeah. Dead shit, did I say that? No, that's a good one, though. No, it's Australian. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah. I think that is. No, that's Australian.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Great. That's a very good one. And I've got a tweet here from O'Dannyboy, the, yeah, that's good. Yeah. I think that is. No, that's Australian. Great. Yeah. That's a very good one. And I got a tweet here from O'Dannyboy, the frights, the frights. Okay. Oh, that's good. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Gun to your head, gun to your balls. Would you rather spend the rest of your life in New Zealand or spend the rest of your life
Starting point is 01:48:16 with the DCEU? It's now DCEU. Yeah, yeah. As one of the only company franchises currently in production. Yeah, New Zealand. Yeah, probably. I like New Zealand. Yeah, probably. I like New Zealand. It's very nice.
Starting point is 01:48:26 And it's not that far for us. It's like a four-hour flight, so not a big deal. Yeah. DC, you're always getting shot at with lasers and stuff. I don't have to like – there's always local characters and you've got to interact and I don't have to do any of that. I'd have to – there'd be more local characters over there, I assume, that I'd have to interact with.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Yeah, there used to be a wizard, I think. A wizard? Yeah. I'd hit him. You I assume, that I'd have to interact with. Yeah, there used to be a wizard, I think. A wizard? Yeah. I'd hit him. You'd hit him? I'll drop him one punch, mate. Yeah, wow.
Starting point is 01:48:51 One punch. Wow. Yeah. Wow, new wizard in town. Yeah. James, after I've punched you, mate, you drongo, you wouldn't know what to do. Look, I'd rather live where I currently live, but yeah. Well, that's not an option.
Starting point is 01:49:05 No, look, realistically, I'd actually- Your house is getting demolished. I'd probably just do the DC thing. Oh, yeah? Because then I wouldn't have to move. Okay. Would people know that it was me? People are out the front going, boom, move to New Zealand.
Starting point is 01:49:17 We want to see a Bloodshot sequel. Yeah. Maybe. Anyway, what else you got? That's from Megan. Let's do it. That's Megan. Ooh. She says- Maybe it's Mithregan. Maybe it might be Mithregan. I'm Anyway, what else you got? It's from Megan. Let's do it. Or perhaps Megan. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:49:26 She says, I mean. Maybe it's Mithregan. Maybe it might be Mithregan. I'm engaged, bitches. Yeah. Hello, boys. I was hoping you'd be so kind as to shout out my fiance, Matt. On October 14th, he proposed four days before our 10-year anniversary.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Ooh. It was the easiest question. But it took him long enough. Yeah. You get less for murder. That's true. It's the easiest question I've ever answered. He is the most amazing person on the planet.
Starting point is 01:49:46 We've both been fans of you boys for nearly a decade and I think he would be delighted to receive a shout-out. Again, I'm shouting out my fiancé, Matt. He's a gift to the world and he deserves the world, but a simple shout-out will suffice. That's all we can offer. Sincerely, Megan. Terrific.
Starting point is 01:49:59 I'm going to say Megan. I'm going to say Mithrigan, like the killer robots. Nice, that's terrific. Yeah. If you could put us in your vows, that would be great. That would be great. I mean, nothing about this says that they met via the podcast or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:50:09 How else would they have met, though? Well, I mean, how does anyone meet anybody? Yeah. So it must be through the podcast. I don't know, Mason. Probably shared some earbuds. Oh, that's a fun thing to do, isn't it? Now you can do it from a distance if you're using like a –
Starting point is 01:50:21 Yeah, you can just fling one at somebody. Yeah, catch this. And maybe it goes in a soup and you're like, oh, I have to get another set of that. So true. Isn't it? It's really relatable content we're doing here. Mason, I've got a tweet here from Nathan who says,
Starting point is 01:50:35 hashtag weekly planet pod. Did James ever actually play The Order 1886 before dismissing it as the worst game ever and shoving it into a big bin? I really like that game. No, I haven't. I've never played it. I just dismissed it. and shoving it into a big bin. I really like that game. No, I haven't. I've never played it. I just dismissed it. You chucked it into a big bin?
Starting point is 01:50:49 I think it does have its fans and followings, but isn't it mostly cinematics? It's a lot of cinematics and it's very short and then it ends abruptly. That's why I put it in a big bin. You probably put it in a big bin. There you go. Anyway, it came with my PS4 and I was like, fine, and then I never played it.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Anyway, what's next, Mason? I'm sorry. My sister was in Black Adam. Black Adam? No. What season? Season four, the one in the World War I. Oh, that's pretty grim.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Yep. It was a good season. I liked it, yeah. I thought it was good. I didn't like Black Adam back through time or whatever as much. No. It's a weird one. I also don't like season one.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Because they haven't established his personality yet. It's like a horrible little grub. Yeah, he's a grub. They switched Blackadder and Baldrick's personalities after season one and I think it works way better. I agree. I started season two, I reckon. Yeah, completely agree.
Starting point is 01:51:40 French Revolution? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, cool. Anyway, wrong. That's not what we're talking about. Black Adam. Oh, my God. You're familiar with Black Adam.
Starting point is 01:51:48 You've seen it. Of course, Mason. It's the biggest movie in the world. You gave it Best Movie Ever. Did I? Yep. Okay. Hey, James and Mason.
Starting point is 01:51:53 I've been an avid listener from the early days, and I wanted to share with you something exciting that happened to my older sister. She got to play one of the Shazam wizards in Black Adam. That's cool. Santa Erica is her name. I believe she has a unibrow in the movie. Sick.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Acting as a tough career, she's really stuck with it despite setbacks and role droughts. Thanks for the long-term parasocial relationship, John. Do we know anybody who's been in da movies? Da movies? Yeah, I think so. I can't remember specifically who, but yes. Do you mean people who have emailed in or people we know?
Starting point is 01:52:23 People we know personally, but not famous, not pre-famous people. Not people already comedians. or people we know and people we know personally but not famous not pre-famous people not people already comedians I bet we do yeah we would but I don't know no no no
Starting point is 01:52:31 off the top of my head no no no this has been great though I think it's been great it's been great to think about it maybe we should do an episode on people we know
Starting point is 01:52:39 who have been in movies are we just we give them their full name their address my brother's been in a movie a real movie an an Australian movie, the one you don't like. I'll tell you after.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Yeah, that sounds about right. I'll tell you after. In case people find him and beat him up. He's also been in a bunch of weird student films. Yes, he has. Some great stuff there. Which we will do as part of Caravan of Garbage. We'll make fun of some movies a bunch of 15-year-olds made.
Starting point is 01:53:01 From 2004 or whatever. From 2004, yeah. Anyways, what else you got? Or is it my turn? It's your turn. Joshua says, hashtag weekly planet pod, how about a new segment
Starting point is 01:53:10 on the show after the Pinocchio fiasco where only Mason has to watch a bad movie and talk about it on the pod? We watch a lot of bad movies already. That's true. But would you be open
Starting point is 01:53:20 to that, Mason, watching a new Pinocchio every week? Oh. Not necessarily Pinocchio. Oh, I see. Right. And I watch it and you don't watch it?
Starting point is 01:53:27 Maybe you tell me. Maybe I tell you I'm going to watch it every week, but I never do. See, the thing about that is that's a lot of grinding for a very short segment. Yeah, it is. If we were going to do it, we'd have to make it bigger content, wouldn't we? That's true.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Yeah. But look, I'm all for the idea of you doing extra work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And me not doing anything. So if you ever change your mind. Yeah. But I feel like you sometimes often you'll watch a thing and come in and go, I didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:53:51 I watched it and I didn't like it. Very true. This is from Matthew from Ireland. Oh, my God. Big fan of the pod on the YouTube. Hope you had a good Halloween. Yeah, we did. It was fine.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Actually, we haven't had it yet. Oh, yeah, it hasn't actually happened yet. It's when this goes out. Something spooky might happen in the interim. Can't wait. If you're looking for a weird, odd Irish comedy horror, I'd recommend Extraordinary. I wasn't.
Starting point is 01:54:12 2019, also featuring Australia's own Claudia O'Doherty. Anyway, I've just seen The Banshees of Insurance, which was recently released, and I was wondering if you could give it a review. It's not out yet. I would love to watch that. It's not out until Boxing Day. Extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Oh, this does look good. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah? yet. I would love to watch that. It's not out until Boxing Day. Yeah. Extraordinary. Oh, this does look good. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah? Yeah. I'm going to check this out. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 01:54:31 I like this a lot. I like the cast too. Cool. Great. That is great. But anyway, you were saying the Banshees, what? Banshees of Inchern. Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Yeah, not out until Boxing Day. I have no idea even what it's about. I can tell you. Yeah. Don't. I'm not going to. But I love him, Bruges. Yeah, it's good, right? Especially because, I. I can tell you. Yeah, don't. I'm not going to. But I love In Bruges. Yeah, it's good, right? Especially because, I don't know if you know this, Mason,
Starting point is 01:54:48 but I'd actually been to Bruges around the time that I saw the movie In Bruges. So for me, I felt just like the character of Colin Farrell from In Bruges, except for the bit where he shot a kid. I haven't done that. So you also shot a kid, but you felt nothing. I felt nothing. I guess I didn't have Brendan Gleeson and make me feel bad about it. That's true, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:06 And I got away with it. Mr. Guilt Trip, Brendan Gleeson. That's a fucking good movie though. Love it. Anything else? Have you seen, it's on Netflix I think. It's called Mr. Mercedes and it's Brendan Gleeson. That's good, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:55:19 It's a detective show. I don't know. It's on here. I think it's good but it's one of those ones where it's like four years old and there's two seasons and it's like, is this good? 2019, three seasons. He's haunted. He's a retired detective who's haunted.
Starting point is 01:55:31 He hunts for the merciless killer who intentionally drove his car into a crowd of people. You get three seasons out of that? I guess. I mean, yes. Wow. They did. Wow.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Yeah. Cool. All right, should we leave it there? Yes. Let's go. Folks, let's go to the end. Last bit of energy. Woo!
Starting point is 01:55:48 We started early, but it still seems late. It's so dark, yeah. It's very dark. It's 20 past eight. Do you think it's because of the spooky season? Yeah, all the ghosts and ghouls and goblins and slightly different coloured goblins. Very true.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Yeah. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We very much appreciate it. Thank you for subscribing on your podcast platform of choice. Thank you for telling your friends about it because that's how we get new listeners. That's right. Thank you for leaving a five-star review. That is also how we get new listeners apparently.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Agreed. Because some people go, not bloody listening to this is only good for an upstart. For an upstart, mate, exactly. But I'm getting some five-star reviews here, which people have done in-app, and maybe we'll get yours read out on the show, just like Noah Roscoe, who says, James and Mason are a frigging dynamic duo. I find myself laughing.
Starting point is 01:56:30 All right, first of all, language. Loud in some of the most ridiculous stuff. They spin on the world of comic book and movies. It's very refreshing. I really appreciate the way they don't take themselves too seriously but still provide a banging podcast. Banging! And this one's from I Love Lunacy who says,
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Starting point is 01:58:53 we'll quit that's 500 bucks each it's not bad it's not bad we got to give someone a calling stuff yeah yeah yeah and probably Redbubble
Starting point is 01:59:00 will take 80% yeah and then there's the tax man to think about I try not to but it is the spookiest yeah that's right they take more And probably Redbubble will take 80%. Yeah. And then there's the tax man to think about. I try not to, but it is the spookiest. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:59:10 They take more in October. I don't know if you know that. This spooky season seemed to go very quick. Is that just me? No, it did. You're right. Yeah. Terrific.
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