The Weekly Planet - 456 Remembering Kevin Conroy

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

This week we pay tribute to Kevin Conroy, a man many consider to be the definitive voice of Batman across multiple mediums. Plus the first look at Indiana Jones 5, Fast & Furious X's enormous budget, more SPUMM and more! Thanks for listening.Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.00:00 The Start04:02 New Spider-Man Spin-Offs07:50 New Alien Movie Casting12:06 Steven Spielberg's Bullitt18:06 Chris Hemsworth's Acting Break21:47 The Future of Batman24:59 Death of Pirates of the Caribbean30:04 Indiana Jones 5 First Look35:40 Avengers Secret Wars Cameos37:43 Fast and Furious Ten's Crazy Budget41:02 Black Adam Not Looking Good43:34 Mr Terrific Teased for DCU48:26 Best of Kevin Conroy's Batman01:19:55 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:30:24 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Visit heartandstroke.ca. Red hot comic book movie news Shooting up your bowl Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always is my co-host, Cheers Mason. Oh cheers, cheers. Don't hit the microphone with your drink. You hit the microphone, I learned it from you. I'm safe, though.

I'm allowed to do it. They trust me. I don't trust you. I wouldn't trust me neither. Mason, it's a big week for news, isn't it? Absolutely it is. Do you want me to rattle off some things we're going to be talking about? Rattle off some things and news, please.

People might want to jump around to any particular point in the show. But before we do that, this is your very last opportunity, if you're hearing this as it goes out, to vote for us in the Australian Podcasting Awards. It goes out the night that this goes out, right? Interesting. So get in early if you can. Sneak under that wire. No, it's very important. Look, I don't think we're going to win and we're definitively not sending anybody. Claire's like, should I go to Sydney on Monday? And I'm like, don't go. Oh, it would be announced then we'd straight up have to go.

Yeah. Wow. I assume. I'm busy. Yeah, I don't want to go. So anyway, I'd love to win though. Sure. With absolute minimum amount of effort, absolutely. Well, not minimum, Mason, maximum from everybody as a group.

Oh, I thought you meant from us. Oh, from us, yes. Yeah. But, you know, a rising tide, all ships and whatever. Absolutely. And a victory for us is a victory in a way for everybody, isn't it? That's true. You can get out on the streets.

You can rattle some cages and be like, I helped the weekly planet win this thing. That ultimately is not important. That's right. Exactly. So if you could. So this is a Wendy's, they would say to you. That's a great joke.

In response, thank you. I just came up with that. You should use it every day. Australia used to have Wendy's, but I think it's a different kind of Wendy's. It is. It's just ice cream, isn't it? It was just ice cream.

Yeah. Interesting. But we also used to have hamburger Wendy's. Hamburger Wendy's? Yeah. Was it called hamburger Wendy's? It was called hamburger Wendy's. Just the meat, Wendy's.

Yeah, that's right. If you want ice cream, get ice cream Wendy's. You want a handful of burger patties? Here you go. Like the 80s. I went there once. In the 80s Here you go. Like the 80s. I went there once. In the 80s? Yeah.

I remember the 80s. I remember all the styrofoam packaging at McDonald's or whatever they used to do. Yeah, that's right. All right, Mason. This is the news we're going to be running through. More Spider-Verse situation. Live action we're talking, which is the best kind of Spider-Man, Sony situations, don't you think?

Yep. Definitely. 100%. Definitely. Information on the new Alien. Oh, wait. When you said Spider-Verse, did you mean not into the Spider-Verse? No, the Spum.

The Spum. Well, you should have said Spum. If you meant Spum, don't get my hopes up. The Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel movies. Yeah. Spum. Also, news of the new Alien movie in terms of casting. Steven Spielberg's next movie.

Steven Spielberg. Steven Spielberg's next movie. Steven Spielberg. Steven Spielberg. He's got The Fablemen. That's right. Which is apparently very good, but his next movie after that, which I thought you'd be interested in. But a casting news, maybe. Maybe.

The Future of Batman, The Death of Pirates of the Caribbean. A first look at Indiana Jones, Mason. Uh-oh. Then we're going to talk about whatever's happening in Deadpool 3, I think, yes. The budget of Fast 10 is ballooning out of control and then the budget of Black Adam, it seems, is not looking good for the future of Black Adam.

And, of course, now we know that if you want to watch a Fast and Furious movie, you don't have to go to the cinemas. You can just watch it in chunks on Twitter. That's right. That's what they're doing for you. Tokyo Drift this week was on Twitter. It was trending big time. And James Gunn also teased a character that he might introduce.

And then we're going to do off the back of the passing of Kevin Conroy last week, we're going to be looking at a whole lot of just episodes and bits and pieces that he appeared in as, I was going to say as mostly Batman, but Batman. Yes. So just kind of our favourite moments and things and stuff that he has been in. Moments, things, stuff.

Encompassing a bunch of stuff. We're obviously not going to look at literally everything, but just stuff that we're like, oh, I remember that. That was a good one, wasn't it? That's right. So yeah. Classic rambling remembrance. Exactly.

I'm looking forward to that. But let's kick things off, Mason. Go on. This is by Variety. Exactly. I'm looking forward to that. Me too. But let's kick things off, Mason. Go on.

This is by Variety. Amazon is moving ahead with multiple live-action Spider Universe characters from the Spum. And they're going to start things with Silk Spider Society, developed by The Walking Dead showrunner Angela Kang, and it's also going to be produced by Amy Pascal, of course, who's over at Sony still. She's got the Spider-Man stuff, whatever it's also going to be produced by Amy Pascal, of course, who's over at Sony still. She's got the Spider-Man stuff, whatever she's doing,

plus Phil Lord and Chris Miller. Okay, well, that's a good sign. That's good news because they're heavily involved in the Spider-Verse movies. Now, this is what's happening. Cindy Moon is described as a Korean-American woman bitten by the, do you know this? Yes.

Bitten by the same spider. The bit Peter Parker, yeah. But she was imprisoned for decades, it would seem. Well, not decades. How old is Spider-Man? 25 to 30 maybe. Tough to say. Let's say seven years at the least.

She was imprisoned for spring break, the entire length of spring break. That's crazy. And as she escapes imprisonment, she searches for her missing family to become the superhero known as Silk. I have not read a single Cindy Moon anything. I mean, start here is as good as any, I guess. That's true. I think there's going to be a bunch of these.

I mean, it's interesting because Sony is one of the few movie studios or whatever brands that doesn't have its own streaming service. That's true, for now. Yet. It almost got ahead of it with the PlayStation stuff, didn't it? That's right, PlayStation Network, video, et cetera. Powers and such, et cetera. Ooh, a fidget spinner.

Don't mind if I do. I've got the wheel, though. I'm going to take a fresh different one. A fresh and different one? It looks like two earrings that you've accidentally stuck together here. That's what has happened, yes. Right. Well, I'm going to spend the rest of the podcast attempting to tear them apart.

I hope you do. Thanks, man. Yeah, you're welcome. What were we saying? I can't remember. Silk. Silk. Cindy Moon.

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, remember because they did Powers, whatever, and that was not great, was it? Terrible. It was awful. Awful stuff. And they probably did some other things also. But it's interesting, like, if they've got, you know,

everybody's got a PlayStation at the moment it seems, you wouldn't just throw on like a streaming service or whatever or just all the stuff that they own? What am I saying? Don't do that because then I'll have to buy another one. Would they? I mean Amazon have infinite money so this would sort of look good at the very least, unlike Powers which from your description

looks terrible. Awful. Maybe the story was good. The story. Stories. If I wanted to read a story, Mason, I'd read a book, not look at a terrible show. Right, but you wouldn't read a book.

No. Yeah. No. Sorry. What are you doing? Sorry, that was ludicrous of me. What was your question, though, other than the book thing? Oh, do you think that that like at this point i kind

of feel like maybe you're right that another people would go oh another streaming service i don't want to buy car you know i don't want to i can't afford another one etc but i prime because of the boys and what i prime because the boys um or maybe they're like look a lot of our productions seem like straight to streaming in the first place so so we don't want to, you know, or maybe just like. Are you talking about Venom? Are you talking about Mobius? I'm talking about Venom 2 and Mobius.

And Venom 1. Venom 1. Everything else they make. But that you don't want to really hammer home the point. You don't want the first review of Silk Spider Society to be like, yeah, this absolutely does belong on a streaming service. Good decision. Yeah.

This is the perfect movie to watch while also on your phone. I think it's a show. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't this a show? This movie was weird that it ended and I thought, how many more episodes of this are there? Oh, it's a movie.

Oh, I was at 47 minutes long. there? Oh, it's a movie. Oh, I was at 47 minutes long. I get it. So there you go. Anyway, let's move it along, Mason. This is from THR. So you know about this. There's going to be a Fede Alvarez alien movie, apparently. This is separate than the Noah.

Who's the Noah guy? Malbec? No, he did The Ark. No. No No he did Legion Oh yeah Noah Hawley He's working on an alien show But this is a different movie Directed by Fede Alvarez who did Don't Breathe

And the Evil Dead reboot from like 2013 Which is maybe not a reboot or whatever Fantastic movie Really good that one I've seen So he's going to write and direct it. But Carly Spanney, she's from Mare of Easttown and Pacific Rim Uprising, she's going to appear in the series

and there's speculation and who knows whether she's going to be Newt and that's where they're going to move forward from here, which would be cool if that was the case. How do you think that's going to go? Do you think she'll be a clone of Newt? Nah, they'll just be like three and four don't count. Okay, right.

Yes, most likely. That's what I think is going to happen if this is that and it doesn't have to be. Yeah. Well, they might base it on that original Alien 3 script where she's still alive for a time or whatever that is. It was going to be really expensive because there was just all sorts of cityscapes involved and whatever.

Okay. There is that comic. I tried to read it and I'm like, this is very dense and I'm not that interested in this. I would have preferred like a, give me a summary. What about some sort of 97 minutes like live action, you know, big budget cinematic experience? Would you have liked that more than a comic book?

Is it on streaming? Yes. Then yes, I would love that. Okay, terrific. Yes, very good. So presumably this will either go to, because it's 20th Century Fox or Twin Century Studios, which is owned by Disney, this will go to like Hulu and Disney Star or whatever. Yeah, right.

But there you go. And I think this was also off the back of like the new Predator movie, Prey. So they were like, oh, people like this stuff if we make good ones. Yeah, yeah. And that's true. That is true. I'll watch a good one of anything, Mason. Yeah.

Okay, if Sony had a streaming service, it would be called Spumbox. Don't you agree? Yeah, it would, but then people would do weird things to it. Streaming Spumbox. Yeah. Spumbox streaming? Spumbox streaming, I think. I think people would accidentally order it.

Then they'd be disappointed there wasn't like a particular shaped hole in it. I don't know. I don't think that I just don't. You're right. I don't think that would be a good name. They would do it, but I don't think it would be a good name. Okay, right.

You know? Okay. Just my opinion. Symbiote glory hole. That's way better. Yeah, that's what I thought. If Sony did do a streaming service, they would absolutely make the mistake of like having a physical hardware box

that you had to get sent to your house. And it just plays Sony stuff and you have to unplug it. You have to plug it in every time you want to use it and unplug all your other stuff. If you've got a Sony TV. Yeah, you have to unplug your PlayStation to put the Spumbox in. And people are like,

can't I just plug it into the PlayStation? No. No. What are you thinking? Does the PlayStation have this app? No. No. That's games and, well, also streaming, but no. They still have in Australia. We promised we'd never do another streaming service

after PlayStation TV network or whatever. Whatever it was, yeah. So we're not allowed legally. The FCC has denied this. They send out Foxdale boxes soon still. So Foxdale in Australia, for those who don't know, it's cable. Yeah, it's basic cable essentially. It was the only cable for – it's Murdoch owned for decades.

Besides Ozstar and Optus Vision. I guess they did, but they were also more recent. Yeah. Murdoch had all the sport and whatever. Yeah, yeah. And you can get the app, but they still send – like if you're an old person, they'll give you the box with the specific remote if you ask for it, you know. I think it's lovely.

It's like 90 bucks a month as well. And it's got a bunch of ads on it. And you have to like pay for extra stuff on top of it. But it's still, it's pay TV. It was sold in Australia as pay TV. You don't have to have no ads. Yeah. No ads because pay TV because you're paying for it.

And then it's like, nah, we'll do ads though, I reckon. I reckon that's a great idea. What are you going to do, cancel? Oh, you all canceled. Okay, right. Yeah, because also we had four channels growing up. That's true. In Australia.

It was really good. Yeah. We're basically like what New Zealand is now. Disgusting. Yuck. Steven Spielberg. Now, as mentioned, he's working the Fablemans round the room at the moment, introducing it to a party of friends and fans,

which is the story of his childhood and his love letter to his parents and all of that. And apparently it's very good. But forget that. Forget everything you know about that movie, Mason. Good. They lied to me. They said Fablemans like he was some sort of superhero.

I don't like it. I don't like it either. But anyway, he's going to be directing a new Frank Bullitt movie. That's right. Starring one Bradless Cooper. Bradlick? Yes, Bradlon Cooper. Bradlon Cooper.

Now, this is not going to be a remake of the movie Bullitt starring Mr. Bullitt, Frank Bullitt himself. That's right. Is his name Frank starring Mr. Bullet, Frank Bullet himself. That's right. Is his name Frank Bullet? Yes, Frank Bullet. Yeah, which was a Steve McQueen movie from the late 60s? 68. Which you've seen at the cinemas, right?

You said it was amazing. I did, yeah. I saw it at the Astor. It was one of those movies where people were like, oh, my God, you've got to check this out. The car chase is incredible. It's a car chase as unto a legend. And I watched it for the first time on like a little box TV

on a DVD and I'm like, this sucks. But then i watched it for the first time on like a little box tv on a dvd and i'm like this sucks yeah and but then i watched it was also like the first car chase yeah right with the real cars and not just somebody in front of a yeah like a exactly projector and it was just and and i saw it on the huge screen with the aster with a bunch of fans and i'm like this is amazing and uh it is so dangerous this whole thing looks so dangerous uh but it's very good, I think. Yeah, cool. So I looked up because I was like,

surely there's been another one of these at some point. You know how Jason Statham was Carter from Get Carter at one point? Oh, yeah, of course, yeah. The guy from Payback is – Mel Gibson and also – Parker, yeah. Parker was someone else's done Parker. He's Mel Gibson.

Maybe Jason Statham again. Jason Statham has also been Parker, yeah. Yeah. So I's Don Parker. And Jason Statham. Maybe Jason Statham again. Jason Statham has also been Parker, yeah. Yeah. So I thought. Oh, Stallone was Get Carter. Yes, that's what I mean, yeah. Sorry, Stallone was Carter and Kane was the original Get Carter. He got got, so they had to get a new Carter.

That's right, yes. Get the new Carter in here. Carter got got. So I thought they'd done a bunch of these maybe. No. But no, this is the only other version. And the author, I don't't believe ever made another novel. I looked into that.

Yeah, I don't think he did. Of this character or this character in general. Yeah, so that's kind of fun. I like the idea of that. Because we speculated, well, we speculated, but we also did some wishful thinking, and we said Adam Driver, I think. Oh, for Bullet.

For Bullet, yeah. Yeah, mate. Have we talked about this? Yeah. That Steven Spielberg was going to do it. Wow. Yeah, well, I like our Oh, for Bullet. For Bullet, yeah. Have we talked about this? Yeah. That Steven Spielberg was going to do it. Wow. Yeah, well, I like our speculation, sure. Yeah.

I know the obvious choice is like Ryan Gosling, which I think like he looks also more like Steve McQueen, I guess, but I think Bradley Cooper is a good choice. Well, I'm going to be mad about it until it's out, and then I'll be like, this is pretty good. It's pretty good, actually. Steven Spielberg is a pretty good director I think. Yeah.

Bradley Cooper's got the pointiest face in Hollywood, doesn't he? Does he? Just all of it. Chin, nose. It is very pointy, yeah. Hair like an arrow. It's like an arrow, Mason. It's like an arrow.

Which is perfect to play Mr. Bullet, spelled B-U-L-L-I-T-T. In Bullet, the love interest was Jacqueline Bissett, who was only one inch shorter than Steve McQueen, and so it was panic stations because that was the era where you couldn't be like, oh, they're roughly the same size. He was only like 5'9", wasn't he, or something like that? Yeah, something like that. So she spends most of the movie like lying down in bed. So they got around it.

That's the one thing I loved about Tenet, the fact that Elizabeth Debicki is like a foot taller. Yeah, than John David Washington. Yeah, which is really good. Well, then I should get Elizabeth Debicki. I agree. Just giant Elizabeth Debicki to pick up Bradley Cooper and place him in a baby seat in the car.

I don't know how tall Bradley Cooper is. Well, I mean, look, let's look at what it says on Google and guess how tall he actually is. Okay, I'll look up Elizabeth Debicki. She what it says on Google and guess how tall the actress is. Okay, I'll look up Elizabeth Debicki. She's 6'3", right? Yeah, apparently, which is probably accurate. Yeah, I don't think it's in reverse for women.

That wouldn't be like 6'3", she's actually 6'5". Yeah, it says she's 190 centimetres. Bradley Cooper is 1.85 metres. I don't want to look that up. God. That's 6'1", I think. I think it's 6'1". Okay.

I'm pretty sure it's 6'1". It is 6'1". Yeah. There you go. There you go. I think he's actually 6'1". No. I think he's probably 5'10".

Okay, right. Or maybe he's 5'11". Okay, right. Yeah. Okay. You're not going to give him those last two inches? No. Okay, great.

He's not 6'1". If it says he's 6'1", he's not 6'1". Okay. Yeah. I'm going to Google Bradley Cooper standing next to Elizabeth Babicki and then we'll know. Bradley, because there's often, there are sites that are obsessed with like celebrity heights, nearly as much as we are maybe.

And they've got like pictures of them next to different people with different shoes on. Yeah, right, right, right. So I'm going to look up real height. Okay. So he's, right, right. So I'm going to look up real height. Okay. So he's 185. Okay. I still reckon he's six foot and a half.

Okay. What's Bradley Cooper's weight? See, here's the thing though also. If you're lying about like Bradley Cooper's height, you'd have to lie about like the heights of all the women that he dates. Yeah, okay. Because otherwise people would use that as like a literal yardstick and go, well, she says she's 5'9", and if she's not lying,

then he's, you know, whatever. He's only, this guy's only 5'10". Let's get him. I stumbled across an old Reddit thread from two years ago where it said, did Bradley Cooper lie about his height? Because on the internet it says Tom Hanks is 183 centimetres tall and Bradley Cooper is 185 centimetres tall, but in this photo Tom Hanks looks taller.

But if you look at this, Tom Hanks is closer to the camera. That's a ridiculous thing to say. What are you talking about? Tom Hanks is also twice as wide as Bradley Cooper. Hey, my car, which is right near me, is bigger than that bus that's over there. What's going on? Hey, I'm a dumb guy. Okay, but what are

people on the internet saying? I can't read it, Mason. I'm a dumb guy. I don't know. One of the classic all-time jokes. I agree, Mason. That's where I'm concerned. So there we go. That's Celebrity Heights for this week.

Tune in next week for Celebrity Wigs, where I tell you all the celebrities who wear wigs. Spoiler alert, probably like 40% of them. Speaking of tall, very tall men. Is this a one bit of news? This is one bit of news. Love it. Chris Hemsworth is taking a break from acting following Alzheimer's revelation.

Yeah, loving those headlines, by the way. Yeah, it's a bit of a. Chris Hemsworth has Alzheimer's and will quit all movies. That's right. He said he's got a. A genetic predisposition. To Alzheimer's. I guess he's taking some time out to sort of re-evaluate. It's pretty terrifying. That's right. He said he's got a genetic predisposition to Alzheimer's. I guess he's taking some time out to sort of re-evaluate his life. It's pretty terrifying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think he's got the gene from both of his parents. Both of his parents, exactly. Which makes it more likely, but his parents don't have it at this point at least. Yeah. He says, it's not like I've been handed my resignation, despite what I said a moment ago, that I'm going to quit movies forever.

Yeah. But he's taking a break for a short while because he's done that series Limitless, which I think is on Disney+. He's also been flat out. For years, for literally years. Like both acting-wise and on the campaign trail for all his movies and also just constantly being fit all the time. And he's got that app that's going on.

Yeah. Center app. Yeah. Center app. Yeah. Now when I finish this tour this week, I'm going home and I'm going to have a good chunk of time off and just simplify, be with the kids, be with my wife. So that's nice. Yeah, cool.

He's also, he just did a movie with someone and he's like, I'm loving, this is just nice, just nice. Just to do a nice movie. Nice to be part of a team where Taika Waititi isn't making fun of me or something to that effect. Do you think that's what's happening? Maybe. Let's check what that movie is and then how tall he is.

He is tall though, isn't he? He's extraordinarily tall. Limitless? No, that was the show that you said. Yes. We're the same age. I don't like it. We're the same age, Mason.

Interesting. Because he looks much better than me. Only in the world's opinion, James. So just every person on the planet thinks that this is true. But you don't, so that's what's important. No, I do think that, basically. Oh, no. That's the worst attitude you could have, James.

Spider head? No. It's Extraction 2? No, no, no, no, no. Interceptor? No. Not Interceptor? No.

Oh, that was the one his wife did or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are the movies. Unless it was a show. Hang on, I'll find it. Oh, did you see Neighbours is coming back? Oh, I did see that, yes. Just got rid of it.

Come on. I don't like that. No, there's no movie here, Mason. Oh, find it momentarily. No, I have the list here. He hasn't done any other movies recently. So it was, yeah, it was Interceptor, Spiderhead, Love and Thunder, Extraction 2, which is next year, and then Furiosa in 24.

Oh, it was Furiosa. He's like, I love working with George Miller. I'm glad it's not Taika Waititi making fun of me. That's not what he said. Yeah. I was beating him up and he was still making fun of me. You ever seen that? Where like a real smart-ass guy is getting beaten up and he doesn't care.

He's just still like making fun of a person. Here it is. It's from IndieWire. I shot with George Miller on the new prequel to Fury Road, Furiosa, and I said to my agent, that's where I want to spend my work hours with someone who is kind and collaborative and interesting. Unlike Taika Waititi who made fun of me. That's right.

And my height. He said I was too tall. Too tall. They said 200 years ago I would have put you in a cage. Probably. Wheeled you around in a freak show. The amazing tall man. But is he even a man?

He's a monster. I would have been better looking than him then. That's right. You'd have been a gentleman and he would have been a brute. You'd have called him a brute. Look at this brute you would have said to your wife and your kids. I'd make him eat a rotten apple or something on a stick from a distance because he'd hurt me.

Yep, that's right. Damn, I'm born in the wrong era to be better looking than Chris Hemsworth so I can make fun of him. Yeah, but you would have probably like, you would have had to work in like a factory or something like that. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't have been rich, would I? No, and you would have been horribly scarred or something. A sooty-faced little creature.

Exactly. Just eating dirt. At least I'm better than Chris Hemsworth 20 years ago. That's right. All right. Do you want to know about the future of Batman, Mason? Yes. This is via THR.

This is David Zaslav on the future of Batman. I think over the next few years you're going to see a lot of growth and opportunity around DC. There is not going to be four Batmans, and so part of the strategy is to drive the hell out of DC, which James and Peter are going to do. I think they've thrilled the fans. I think they're going to thrill you over a period of time.

Wow. I love being thrilled over a period of time. How good would it be if- I hate it when I'm thrilled all at once in a span of a single second. I'm like, ah! Now it's regular life again. Oh, regular sucks. I'm covered in soot.

This apple's all rotten, but it's all I have. This sooty apple. So he says there's four Batmen, which is true at the moment. There's Pattinson. Yep. There's Affleck. And these are all active Batmen, I should point out. Keaton.

Keaton. And a guy outside the, you know. Who's the fourth one? Ah. This is obvious, isn't it? Is it Ian Glenn from Titans? I mean, maybe. I mean, he's one of them.

Yeah. Maybe TV isn't included. Yeah. I would love to know who this fourth Batman is. Let me check. Oh, it's Pete Best. Oh, from the whatever. From the Beatles, yeah.

From the whatever. That's right. Yeah, no, I guess. Yeah, so does that mean, does he mean like there's not going to be four Batmans because there's three Batmans? There's not going to be four Batmans. There's going to be three Batmans. We're doing a hard limit of three Batmans.

I know the fans are clamoring for more Batmans at all times. Who's going then? Do you think they're going to like roll in Keaton and be like, see you later, thanks for your cameo in The Flash. Now fuck off. Absolutely. Get the fuck out. Get out.

Get out. You're too short also. I think they're going to get rid of Affleck and Keaton because it's just too much money. Yeah, maybe. Like at this point, what are you getting Affleck for? A cameo at best, I would imagine. You're not going to give him his own movie at this point because maybe he doesn't want to do it. And he's going to be able to. I would like to see a not going to give him his own movie at this point because maybe he doesn't want to do it. And he's going to be – and his agent's going to be –

I would like to see a Ben Affleck Batman movie. But I think his agent's going to be like, okay, and $15 million for this brief appearance? Yes. No. Okay, then he's not doing it. He's got other stuff to do. He's got a second marriage to –

Whatever. What's her name? That really famous woman. A really famous lady. Jennifer – Love Hewitt. Jennifer Love Hewitt. He's got a secret marriage with Jennifer Love Hewitt. He's got a secret marriage with Jennifer

Love Hewitt and he's got to maintain that. Exactly. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see because he's we know, I think Affleck's probably in Flashpoint. Yep. I would say. God no, he is. We've seen like on set stuff and he's in Aquaman 2. So who knows where we're at. Anyway.

I just want the new Pattinson one. I liked that last one and I want a new one. That's what I want, Mason. Couldn't have that as a soot-stained man back in the day. Yeah. You know I get real people in my real life, Mason. Go on. Who are like, you know what, I don't like Robert Pattinson,

but I liked that Batman movie. Okay. They're like, I hate him. And I'm like, why? Right. Twilight. Like fucking ten years ago. Get over it.

And he's good in those movies. They're bad, but he's good in them. He fucking 10 years ago. Get over it. He's good in those movies. They're bad, but he's good in them. He's trying his best. I'd like to see you do better, my mate, in real life. That's what I say to them. All right. What else we got here, Mason? Oh, yeah.

It's by Vanity Fair. Margot Robbie was talking about her Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Remember this? Top the table. They were like, get out of here, Johnny Depp. Look what we got here. So she said, we had an idea and we were developing it for a while, ages ago, to have more of a female-led, not totally female-led,

she's covering herself there, I think, to be like in case people were like, we hate Ghostbusters. Fucking Ghostbusters, Mason. Just every goddamn day with that shit fucking. Really? Occasionally. I was going to say, I don't think about it at all. I hate Ghostbusters. I know you do.

But just a different kind of story which we thought would have been totally cool but I guess they don't want to do it. Yeah, I think it would just be first of all, those movies are not good. They haven't been good since 2003. I know people like the follow-up ones

and they're always like, look at the CGI and Davy Jones. Yes, yes, yes. All-up ones and they're always like, look at the CGI on Davy Jones. Yes, yes, yes, all very good. But they're not great, are they? No, and I think the problem there is that if they were to do one now, the care and attention would not be there on the CGI. Yeah. For a bunch of reasons, including the fact that Marvel is sort of sucking up all the juice.

They're monopolising all the visual effects companies. Yeah. And it would be, I mean, you know, maybe there's a special effects house out there that has a real soft spot for these movies and would set aside a lot of time to do them, but would they have the time? That also, if they did bring them back, that would have to be Johnny Depp focused, you'd assume.

And at this point he said that he wouldn't do them again. And he's like, he's not looking and doing great, it seems. Well, neither is Captain Jack Sparrow. Sure. I guess that's the point, isn't it? Do you think people would accept a recast of Captain Jack Sparrow? Fuck no. Bradley Cooper.

Well, that's different. He's 6'1", bearing in mind. Yeah, so he says. So he says. I don't know. I think they should just leave. See, here's different. He's 6'1", bearing in mind. Yeah, so he says. So he says. I don't know. I think they should just. See, here's the thing, James. Yeah.

If Bradley Cooper were in that, they'd have to fashion him a peg leg, and then we could talk to the peg leg manufacturer and determine his exact height. How would we do that? I don't know, man. We could probably do that. We could set up a business as fake peg leg. Peg leg mates.

Yes. Is that a good name? Yeah, it's great, yeah. Yeah, cool. Yeah, it says what it does. It does what it says on the tin. We're at the forefront of peg leg technology, we'll say. But then we just take measurements and go, thank you.

Thank you. We've got what we needed. And then they come back to the stall. It's gone. It's gone. It's never there. It's just a Hungry Jack's. Hungry Jack's drive-through.

We're like we do drive-through peg leg measurements. So we're going to get you to lay down in the tray of a ute, Bradley Cooper, and go through this drive-through and we'll measure you up. Also, do you want a bad coffee while you're here, Bradley Cooper? You want a double barbecue bacon stacker? Because I'm having one. You want one? Anyway, I think, look, pirates will come back at some point,

maybe as a streaming show or whatever, but for now it's just not happening. Pirates are Caribbean babies. Yeah, and good because they're bad. And they're expensive. What is there left to, see, I guess the thing. Did Salazar get his revenge? Don't know. But I think they'd have to do, if they're going to do it,

I think they would have to do a completely different part of the ocean. Yeah, I agree. Which I guess is what they were doing. Yeah. So probably it's the Caribbean, it's the Arctic. But they are sort of damned if they do and damned if they don't because if they don't bring at least some of the characters in the prequel, some people are like, we don't like this. And they have to bring Jack Sparrow back. But if they don't bring these, if they do

bring these characters back, I think a lot of people like especially like with the last couple, they'd be like, these guys look tired. These are bad. Everybody looks exhausted. And there was that thing of like, yeah, like, no, but Johnny Depp wasn't remembering his lines and just put in an earpiece or whatever.

And you could really feel the like just the boredom out of everybody in that last one. The last one is so bad. Just a trope. Looks good. Oh, yeah. Like care and attention. Who did they fight in the, was the last one the so bad. Just a trope. Looks good. Oh, yeah. It brought, like, care and attention. Who did they fight in the – was the last one the one where they –

Salazar's Revenge. Was it? It was the water man. Yeah, okay. It was Javier Bardem. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We'll talk more about pirates in a bit because I've got some other stuff I want to cover with that sort of – The sopping wet man. The sopping – he was a sopping wet man. And they already did, like Fish Crab Man and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now they're like he's a Sopping Wet Man. Great.

Maybe there's more interest now that we've just done it. We've done an Aquaman. We've done a Namor. And we're getting Avatar in the Water. Avatar in the Water. Or maybe that'll kick it off. Yeah, maybe. Okay, right.

God. You know, oh, by the way, this week for Caravan of Garbage, we're doing Batman somethings whatever. Sure, sure, sure. Batman the Bad One. What's it called? Killing Jojos, whatever. Sure, sure, sure. Batman the bad one. What's it called? Killing Joe. Killing Joe.

The animated movie and maybe another thing. And then we're doing The Road to Avatar 2. So we're going to look at some movies leading up to that. Great. There's some fun to be had there, Mason, isn't there? Sure is. I'll just jump ahead a bit. I watched Titanic the other night in preparation.

How'd that go? It's fucking great, like honestly. I know you've never seen it and you'll probably be like, this sucks. But I think it's terrific. Maybe I won't yeah maybe i'll like everybody's little outfits oh you'll definitely like liking little outfits and you'll you should appreciate that the clock looks like the real clock or whatever and they they replicated a bunch of it oh hell yeah and everybody hated it and had a bad time on that movie oh it's not the clock just the you're right the whole experience it's anyways this, this is by Empire Magazine.

We got our first look, which means they're coming up on the trailer, no doubt, and they want the trailer in cinemas before Avatar 2. Avatar 2? Yes. Avatar, no. Oh, man, they got me saying it. They got me saying it. Indiana Jones 5.

Okay, yeah. As yet untitled. Yeah. There was a story that it was just called Indiana Jones at one point. I hope that's not true because he's got to be on the whatever and he does the thing. Exactly, it fits with the trend.

Indiana Jones and look at this weird thing he found. It fits with the trend of like you do a reboot and you just cut it down to fast and furious. But this is, it's never been what these are. That's what I'm saying. Indiana Jones and there's the box that does the thing on the whatever. Look out, everyone. That's right.

It's got God's laser in it or something. Oh, no. Anyways, we got a couple of images and covers including Harrison Ford. He's back, Mason. We knew he was back. What kind of clothes is he wearing? Regular Indiana Jones clothes. Regular Indiana Jones clothes. Regular Indiana Jones clothes.

It looks like him, doesn't it? Sure does. We've also got a few other images including Boyd Holdbrook and Mads Mikkelsen, and I've got some details here, Mason. Okay. First of all, it's confirmed to be set in 1969. Nice. Thank you.

It's also going to be living against the backdrop of the space race. Nice. But the American effort to beat the Russians to the moon brings some uncomfortable truths to Indy. Is it all the Nazis in the space program? Correct, Mason. The simple fact is that the moon landing program was run by a bunch of ex-Nazis.

Can you ever really be an ex-Nazi? That's a great question. I mean, I guess if you fully renounce. Who are you asking for? Nobody, but I know, Mason. Okay, sure. Well, that includes me, so. So Mads Mikkelsen is playing the villainous Vola

who is inspired partly by real-life Nazi-turned NASA engineer Wernher von Braun. Uh-oh. So he said that. Does that mean there is a Wernher von Braun? Presumably, I guess. So he's a man who would like, or maybe not, maybe he's the guy, whatever.

He's the guy. He's the man who would like to or maybe not, maybe he's the guy, whatever. He's the guy. He's the man who would like to correct some of the mistakes of the past. And there's also going to be an Apollo 11 ticker tape parade in New York. Do you see that in the poster? Oh yeah, right, right, right. And it also says that Boyd Holbrook

is also going to be like one of his workers and minions. And he's a crazy Nazi person. There's a, what I think is like a concept image and it's Indy in the city and there's a big column of fire or something shooting up. Yeah, I think that's the poster or whatever. Is that in the – okay.

Yeah, that's what's going on. Indy in the city. Do you think Mads Mikkelsen's character will meet Werner Von Braun? I think he probably just is actually. Okay, right. But then they could shake hands and show they're definitively different people. They're different people, yeah.

Like I don't know if we've talked about this before, but in the American Psycho, the novel, the original novel. Oh, yeah, we have talked about this, yeah. Patrick Bateman meets Tom Cruise in his apartment complex. Because they live in the same apartment? Because they live in the same apartment, but it seems to have been largely so people didn't go, is this supposed to be Tom Cruise? Is this't go, is it supposed to be Tom Cruise?

Is this guy, is this psycho meant to be Tom Cruise? No, obviously it can't be because he just met Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise is in it. Tom Cruise is friends with this psycho, this American psycho. Also, Christian Bale has said in an interview that he's based a lot of Patrick Bateman on Tom Cruise. He's like, he's laughing. You see him in an interview and he's having a good time,

but you look at his eyes and he's like dead inside. Like he said something like that, which is hilarious, Mason. All I'm saying is I don't know like how litigious Werner Von Braun's family is. Sure. They're like, how dare you defame this former Nazi? I mean, he's a Nazi. So do you want to bring attention to yourself? Like if my granddad was a Nazi, which he wasn't, he killed a bunch of Nazis, Mason, I'll have to arrest him. And someone was like, your granddad, this guy is based on your granddad and your granddad's a bad guy. I'm like, I don't know anything about this.

I wouldn't say a goddamn thing. I'd shut my mouth. Yeah. He might even make up some backstory like he wasn't a Nazi, but he killed a bunch of Nazis. I would not need to make it up. Even though he was a Nazi and then he just took a non-Nazi's identity. You'd say I would do that hypothetically.

I'd say you would do that. But not though, would I at all? Because he wasn't a Nazi. He was a regular man. Nice. He was a good Aussie bloke. That's great. Who had his own trials and tribulations in Australia because he wasn't a Nazi.

Not that there aren't Nazis in Australia because there are. Just to clarify. Anyway, great, good. How did he say the number three? How did he show that on his fingers? The way that you get shot for if you're in Germany. Anyways, how are you feeling about this, all this imagery? I love it.

I'm excited for it. Me too. I hope it's really good. What will it be? I saw some discourse on Twitter today because, you know, this was all released and people saying, oh, I don't know if it'll have the same Spielberg kind of energy, like it won't have the, you know, you know what we're looking for,

like a, you know, like a indie fighting a bunch of Nazis on the tank kind of, you know, that kind of big action set piece. I think it will. I think it will. Or also Spielberg doesn't make those kind of movies anymore, you know, and that's okay. He's doing like The Fablemans and whatever. So I think he's in a different – he's doing musicals.

He's in a different era, you know. And also I'm pretty sure he was like I'm done with Nazis and shit like years ago. Yeah. And that's why also he had The Russians in part four because I think after he did Schindler's List he's like this isn't fun for me anymore to be like, you know, to just parade a bunch of Nazis around on the screen. Like I get that. Anyways, I'm glad for the movie that the Nazis are back

so we can see more Nazis being killed. It's the perfect villain, Mason. It is, isn't it? Yeah. Anyways, this next bit of news is via heavy spoilers. Great YouTube channel, by the way, Mason. You should check it out. If you love breakdowns of various things, this is bit of news is via heavy spoilers. Great YouTube channel, by the way, Mason. You should check it out. If you love breakdowns of various things, this is where it's at.

There's so many, but this is a good one too. Terrific. One of the best. So this is about Deadpool 3. Apparently it will feature Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man. Oh, sorry, no, not Deadpool 3. I meant to say Secret Wars. You know, those have been just whatever.

So it's going to feature Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield, Spider-Man, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, several X-Men cast members, Fantastic Four ones, and so on and so forth. Kang will have ravaged multiple dimensions at this point, and so it'll be the final stand against him. It looks like they're going balls to the walls, Mason, which makes sense for something like this. How do you do bigger than an Avengers Endgame?

And that's their rallying cry of that super team. Let's get balls to the walls. Yeah, How do you do bigger than an Avengers Endgame? And that's their rallying cry of that super team. Let's get balls to the walls. Yeah. So there you go. We've talked about speculated on something like this, but that makes sense. Yeah. Because if you just had everybody show up again, it's like, no,

we've seen this. But this is like a whole other level of intergalacticness. Do you think that they would kill any of those characters? Yes. Do you reckon? I don't know. Who cares? I guess that is a great point.

Did anyone die in that battle, that endgame battle? Oh. Aside from Tony Stark? No. I don't think anyone did. They just swatted at each other. I mean, there was a bunch of, like, Wakandan soldiers and whatever who were killed, but nobody with a name.

That's true. Yeah. So there you go. Great stuff. Do you think that, like, do you think that a Tobey Maguire Spider-Man would die in this? No. Okay, yeah.

They'll bring him back when he's 80. Yeah. Yeah. Because they never want to close. If he's alive. Yeah. Or even if he's not. They never want to close the door on any of those characters,

even though they could say, oh, well, the one who died was an offshoot of that reality. It's actually a different one. I think people will be like, but didn't he die though? Yeah, exactly. So. Yeah. But then again, movies.

Then again, movies. That's the final word on it, I think. Oh, yeah? Yep. Oh, yeah? You think your word's that good? I think so. Yeah, it's pretty good.

Mason, this is via the rap. So the budget for Fast X, the 10th film. Fast 10-year buttholes. That's right. In Universal's lucrative Fast and Furious action franchise, the budget has ballooned to $340 million. Now, that's not for 10 and 11, which is going to be their end game. Just 10.

Where it's balls to the wall. Yeah. Now, according to individuals with knowledge of the production, that's 70% more than the reported $200 million budget for Fast 9. Balls to the Family. F9, the Balls to the Family saga. Now, this can be blamed on numerous big budget-busting elements. Vin Diesel.

Well, including salaries for series star Vin Diesel and the rest of the franchise ensemble cast. Plus they brought in like Brie Larson, Jason Momoa, whoever else. Does this include the last director dropping out? Probably. Yeah, because that would have thrown everything out as well. Louis Letierre was doing it now. General increases in production costs caused by global inflation.

Can you believe it? You're not wrong. You're not wrong. That's the price of doing business, you know? Yes. Packet of eggs is now $14. I was just thinking about the eggs. Packet of eggs.

That's what we call them in Australia. Give me a packet of eggs while you're down the shop. And they come in packs of seven in Australia, don't they? That's right, exactly. And it's in one long row. That's awful. It doesn't stack. It's terrible.

Yeah. That's how they get you. That's how they get you. Because you've got to buy like four. Yeah. And then it's 28 eggs. It's too many eggs. It's the only way you can stack them.

That's right. You get 28 eggs and then you throw out four and then you've got two dozen. That's right. Yeah. And then it fits in the fridge because the fridge has the regular amount of eggs to hold. But sometimes you can, you know, in some houses you can get a specific like egg hole to slot your eggs in.

That's true, yeah. Slide your eggs in there. Yeah. Then you've got to watch out for egg possums. They'll take your eggs. They'll just pull them right out of the wall. There's a lot going on here. Yeah, in Australia.

A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, it's legit. Yeah, it is legit. When he said that, I was saying I did. I was like, eggs? Eggs are expensive. Expensive. Yeah.

Spends egg. Spends egg. So it's also charred. Charizard. Charizard's there. The cost of Charizard. Yeah, it's expensive. They's egg so it's also Charizard Charizard's there the cost of Charizard yeah it's expensive they had to clone it and everything

so pandemic testing also required because of safety protocols etc now I thought that must be the most expensive movie ever made it's not

here's the sixth most expensive movie ever made the top one is Pirate that Pirates movie it is yeah we talked about this quite recently

yeah so somehow Pirates of the Caribbean 4 from 2011. Which one was it, Mason? The one based on Stranger Times. Black Beards and Mermaids. Yeah. $379 million.

Age of Ultron was $365 million. Huh. Was it? Wow. Okay. Yeah. Endgame was $356 million. Infinity War was $325 million.

Presumably that's because of the cast. Yeah, right, right, right. There's less in Infinity War than there was in Endgame. Pirates 3, which was the third one, was $300 million. And Justice League was $300 million, just the 2017 one. And that's amazing to me. It's all amazing. Yeah.

So that's the movies. Yeah. And that's the movies. Yeah. That's the final word on it. Mason, this is by The Wrap. Probably a lot of eggs being consumed on the set of The Fast and Furious. Oh, no doubt. For protein purposes. No doubt, Mason.

And then a series of. Just a tear from Vin Diesel's eye every time he sees one. Big Aiden. Because he looks like an egg in a vest. He looks like an egg in a vest. It's by The Wrap, Mason. So they're saying that Black Adam will not be profitable. Uh-oh.

While Black Adam costs $150 million domestic total, it made $350 million at the global box office over the weekend. That's not going to be enough to turn a profit on the $195 million blockbuster that was accompanied by an expensive global marketing campaign. Even if somehow it inched its way to $400 million worldwide, Black Adam will fail to get in the red. It did have a huge marketing push though, didn't it? It was everywhere for a time.

I feel like bigger than Black Panther even. It was on all our eggs. It's true. Yeah. It said there's a section of- Hey, go see Black Adam. You know you want to. It's going to be a great film.

It's got The Rock in it and it's got a bunch of cool action sequences and Pierce Brosnan is in it. It's true. I'm egg number one of seven. So there's also a section of Johnson. This is how it works. Johnson fans will turn out for anything that he's in and that was a major reason why it posted the 50 million plus opening weekend.

And then the global returns sagged the following weeks with mediocre buzz. So a Black Adam sequel, which will have won for $200 million at least, is far less likely, especially considering how Warner Brothers have been cutting costs left and right following the merger with Discovery. So yeah, I think strictly from a business standpoint, it doesn't make sense

to sink $200 million into do this again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it also pokes holes in when people are like, you don't want to offend us, the true fans, because we're the people that keep this whole thing going and whatever it is. The true fans are always a minuscule subset of, like, just the general audience.

Yeah, exactly. Like, the true fans didn't cause Endgame to be a, you know, a global box office multibillion-dollar hit. It's just everybody saw it. And it's the same with, because we'll talk about it, but like, you know, Avatar and in 2009, which is again the number one movie, and Titanic. Titanic ran in cinemas for nine months.

And people kept going to see it. I know Claire saw it four times in the cinemas just this year. When it came out, when she was a kid. So you're right. They need everybody if they want a big global hit. It's the same with Spider-Man No Way Home. That made close to a billion or a billion, whatever it was, because everybody saw it.

And that's movies. I think it made more than that. I think I saw it the other day. Probably did. It made nearly $2 billion. No Way Home, box office, Mason. Yeah, 1.9, you other day. It probably did. It made nearly $2 billion. No way home box office, Mason. Yeah, 1.9, you're right. There you go.

Yeah, that makes sense. And again, then that was still like COVID and everything and it still made that much. Anyways, did you see also James Gunn posted a picture this week of Mr. Terrifico. That's right. What's his deal? What's he doing?

What's he up to? Well, Mr. Terrifico. He's teasing us, the true fans. That's true, yeah. I deal? What's he doing? What's he up to? Well, Mr. Terrific. He's teasing us, the true fans. That's true, yeah. They want to make all their money. I think maybe when we briefly talked about who could be on the Justice Society next, I think we maybe said Mr. Terrific. This is how we did this.

I think we did this, exactly. So he's a man, in the comic books at least, he's a guy who is a super genius. He's like, I don't know if life's worth living. Oh, everything sucks. And then the specter shows up and he's like, how about if life is worth living? And Mr. Terrific's like, oh, yeah. Go on.

Go on. No, I don't have anything else to say. Just imagine if life was worth living. Just imagine, yeah. I'm not a big ideas guy. I'm more of a wrath of God kind of guy. So if you want to just think about that. Yeah. I'm not a big ideas guy. I'm more of a wrath of God kind of guy. So if you want to just think about that. Yeah.

But he's like, I believe he in the DC universe, he's considered the third smartest man in the world. So who's that behind? Lex Luthor and Bruce Wayne. Of course, yeah. But I mean, there's got to be smarter guys than that. All right then. Great.

Terrific. They're also rich, which means you get a big computer. That's true. And that makes a huge difference. And a big fan base that'll just say you're a genius because you're rich anyway um but he has also like he he's um you know he has sort of batman-esque abilities and he's got like original but like so he's you know he's a world-class athlete and he's a surgeon and he's a you know martial artist and all that sort of stuff blah blah blah blah blah he has like um he's invented these devices

they're called t-spheres. They're like floating sphere devices and they've got all sorts of cool gadgets in them. He's invisible to technology. He can't be picked up on cameras and et cetera. Okay. That's a fun little tidbit. If you try to get a photo of him in your phone, you're like,

Mr. Terrific, let me get a photo. He'll hit you, yeah. He'll hit me. So that's how he's invisible. That's right, exactly. He'll just hit you. Word has got around. He'll hit me.

So that's how he's invisible. That's right, exactly. He'll just hit you. Word has got around. There's just a bunch of fragments of security camera footage. Like he walks into a gas station and there's just this footage of him seeing the camera and then walking to the booth and just laying into a guy. Great stuff.

So is this a character you'd like to see? Yeah. I mean, also this character has been previewed in the Arrowverse. Ah, the testing grounds. He's in Arrow, I believe. Okay, great. I didn't know that. I'm going to look up and see what his costume looks like.

What am I going to do? I don't know. Do a little dance. Here we go. He's doing it, folks. I'm doing my dance and I'm having the best time. I don't need friends. I've just got this dance.

That's great. Yeah, I could even do this podcast just by myself, just doing this dance. I hope people stay if it's just me doing this dance. Is this worth the money and time people put into this, Mason? Would we lose all our sponsorship? I don't know about that. What if they liked the dance? Anyway, it's the classic Arrowverse kind of leather jumpsuit situation.

But as we know, he has fair play written along his. Do you think they're going to do the fair play along the? They have to. I think they are. It's James Gunn. I think James Gunn will have him do that, yeah. Great stuff, Mason. All right.

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Bad news, everybody. For us, I guess. Worst news anyone's ever heard. This is terrible. Apparently, Collings has informed us, because I sent this over in chunks, the episode, that voting is already closed on the Weekly Planet. Just the Weekly Planet. That's right.

Because it's gerrymandered. That's right. For the podcasting award. So thank you if you have voted already. And no thank you if you didn't. Yeah, no thank you. Just kidding. No, no, thank you.

Thank you for listening. Thank you for listening, but no, you don't get a thank you. I'm sorry. I'm putting my foot down. So the people that voted get a thank you for listening and also a thank you for listening. Thank you for listening, but no, you don't get a thank you. I'm sorry. I'm putting my foot down. So the people that voted get a thank you for listening and also a thank you for voting. They have to have listened though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And if you listened but you didn't vote, you get a thank you for listening but you don't get the coveted double thank you. Exactly. But if you don't listen but you voted. Yeah, you get one thank you too. You also get one thank you. Yeah. I love this, Mason.

If you don't listen but your partner listens and they harangued you to vote, you get two thank yous, I think. Yeah, that's true, yeah. One for voting and one for putting up with that nonsense, our nonsense specifically. That's right. Yeah. But you won't hear this unless your partner again makes you hear it,

in which case a third thank you for you. Yeah. Yeah. If you listen, thank you, you yeah yeah if you if you listen thank you but you claim to venn diagram but you claim to not listen because but your partner has asked you to to vote on this thing yeah you have voted and i think you get three thank you i think so too now why you and your partner both listen but you claim you don't listen that's that's your own business yeah that's your own business.

Maybe you might want to have a conversation about honesty. Yeah. And you might get a thank you. And that's what you seem to be all about. That's all you seem to like, thank yous. We want four thank yous, do you? God, is that enough thank yous? Can someone do the Venn?

Well, thank you. That one was sarcastic, that last one. Still counts though. I want the Venn diagram. If you could, yeah. Of like people getting thank yous. Yeah. All right.

Here we are, Mason. We're going to be talking about Kevin Conroy over his 30 plus years as Batman. Oh, 30 years. Well, he started in 1992, but of course the recordings and all that casting began in 1991. So we're going to go through some of our favorite episodes, movies that he's appeared in, video games and all of these things. Again, as I said up top, we won't be covering literally everything because there's so many things that he's done in, like,

Lego video games that we're probably not going to mention. We would just be listing every episode of every show. Well, yeah, well, that's the thing. We probably would. And, look, to be frank, I don't remember every episode. I've also put up in the weekly plan, sorry, the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates if anybody has any suggestions there. I mean, you can add them after if you're a side client,

but hopefully we'll get a few responses there that we can list and talk about towards the end. But I think it would be fitting, Mason, if we started at his very first appearance on Leather Wings. Oh, first appearance of him, first appearance of Man Bat. Yes, exactly. Well, strange episode to start with. This is kicking off with a man bat.

But I guess talking about the show in general, as a kid seeing this compared to like most other things that were on at the time. Family ties. Family ties. Don't forget your toothbrush. Spin City also featuring Michael J. Fox. Hey, Hey, It's Saturday.

Sure. These are all the shows of our childhood. But looking at this show as a kid, I didn't know why, but I remember being like, this is different. This feels, it feels like somebody cares about this. It doesn't talk down to you. It's not silly like a lot of cartoons that we would watch of that era. Like it took the source material very

seriously and you you saw you like did you feel that as a kid you couldn't immediately know upon entering a scene in this show what was going to be a movable object and what wasn't because the movable object was obviously drawn yeah exactly way yeah exactly i'm talking about scooby-doo yes of course and most hannah barbara shows yeah but that's what i'm talking about Scooby-Doo. Yes, of course. And most Hanna-Barbera shows. But that's what I'm talking about even like animation quality-wise. You know, it was still pretty good in the 90s, but this was definitely a cut above. And even design-wise, nothing looked like this. And I know we're not here to talk specifically about the show necessarily,

but I think, yeah, his performance has definitely added to that where they could have got, I don't know, just a guy who was just like, I'm Batman, I love everybody. They could have got Casey Kasem. Which who is that from? Voice of Shaggy, I think. That would have been perfect, actually. But you know what I mean by that, right?

Like they could have got like someone doing a Michael Keaton impersonation or whatever. Or an Adam West impersonation. Yeah. Or Adam West, which they did, you know, a number of times, I believe. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Maybe even in the, I think they did for the Scooby-Doo meets Batman. Oh, right, okay.

They might have gotten Adam West. Well, that's good stuff. I love all of that, yeah. Do you have any specific episodes or moments, though, because I've got quite a bit that I want to talk about. You jump off and I'll. So on that very first episode on Leather Wings, it's like one of the only times that it happens,

Batman is in the Batcave and he's doing his Batman voice. And this also was one of the few places that took a very distinct effort to make sure that they were different. There was like a lightness to Bruce Wayne. And Bruce Wayne is a performance, obviously, and Batman is who he really is. And in it he takes a phone call with somebody as bruce wayne but he's in the batman costume so you see the bruce wayne voice coming out of and you don't really think they're that different

until you see him doing the bruce wayne voice when he's in the batman costume and you're like god that is wild that's yeah that's so distinct it's also interesting that you know the years later that of course they had batman beyond where Terry McGinnis takes over as Batman and Bruce Wayne is exclusively Bruce Wayne, but he just doesn't care about the difference anymore. Yeah, you're right. He's post-retirement and he's just Batman. Yeah.

You always see him as Bruce Wayne, but he's always doing Batman because that's who he is. There's a moment in that show as well, and we will get to more of it, where he's, I can't remember what the context of it, but in his head he doesn't call himself bruce when he calls himself batman like because that's that's who he is so anyway i thought that was terrific another i mean there's so many episodes of this i can't think of a bad one if i'm like what's a bad one i don't i don't know i can't think of one but the the two-faced episodes which does like the origin of Two-Face and where he comes from,

that's really good. And a number of people have talked about this and put this clip up, I think including Kevin Smith, where you see Harvey Dent after he gets acidified or he's caught in an explosion or something. It's not strictly like he doesn't get acid thrown in his face like he does in a courtroom like in the – like traditionally. There's a moment where – and I can't do it – where he's just like, Harvey, no.

And he just like has this like – and it's really – it's not like, Harvey, no. It's like really like – As you would have done. As I would do it and did it just then. Yeah. It's really like, oh, that sucks because like they're friends and they're working towards a common goal and all of these things

and he's just, like, heartbroken for this guy. I thought that it's a really terrific just little moment in a couple of really terrific episodes. Yeah. Yeah. What about you, Mason? Well, one of my favourite animated Batman appearances, and I definitely have mentioned this on the show before,

but there was a Justice League Unlimited episode called This Little Piggy where Batman is on the hunt for Wonder Woman because she has been turned into a pig by Cersei the sorceress. Oh, that's why in League of Super Pets the Wonder Woman's animal is a pig in that. Oh, maybe. That's the callback, I guess. You reckon it is?

I don't know. Okay. Well, Green Lantern has a squirrel. All the animators just hated Wonder Woman. Yeah, maybe. Green Lantern has a squirrel. All the animators just hated one. Yeah, maybe. Green Lantern has a squirrel. So I guess there's like a squirrel Green Lantern is in there or something. Well, there's Gnaught.

Is there? No, The Flash has a squirrel. Well, then I don't know. The Flash has a squirrel who shoots lightning. I see. Yeah, and it's Diego Luna who does the squirrel. What's Green Lantern's guy? Green Lantern's not in it, I don't think.

Whoa. They go Cyborg, Flash. They do the basically. So it's the cinematic it, I don't think. Whoa. They go cyborg flash. They do the basically. So it's the cinematic Justice League. Okay, right. But there's an episode where, yeah, he has to find Wonder Woman pig in the city before she ends up in an abattoir and is chopped to bits.

So she doesn't have her memories and stuff, I assume. Well, she can't talk because she's a pig. And she doesn't seem to. She has lost most of her powers. Most? She's still got the lasso, I think. Okay. Anyway, but eventually Batman and Zatanna confront Cersei in a nightclub

that Cersei has taken over and Batman realises – The big showdown. Yeah, Batman realises that he can't defeat her in any meaningful sense because all he's got is Batarangs and she's an immortal sorceress. Yeah. So he's like, let's make a deal. What can I do to make you lift your spell on Diana? And she's like, I'm going to do something that will destroy you.

I'm going to need you to be vulnerable. And there's a moment in there where you're like, oh, she wants him to reveal his identity to the world. No, she actually just wants him to get up on stage and sing. And so Kevin Conroy gets up and he does Am I Blue, which is a Ray Charles song from back in the day. And it's great. He's very good.

And everybody in the room is like, he's very good. Well, he's Batman, so he would be really good at singing. Yeah. He's like, I believe he says he had to go undercover as a singer at one point, so he learned all the standards. Of course he did. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, great. Really good. Shows his versatility. And we've done an episode on this, but The Heart of Ice, obviously, the Mr. Freeze, and then there's the multiple movies that happen afterwards. But that episode in particular, I mean, that's just a good episode. But, again, he's good in in it as he is in every episode. You talked about this one last week, but where the Grey Ghost,

which is him teamed up with Adam West, who plays like pretty much like the Batman of the 60s, I guess, who was, but he's called the Grey Ghost, who was actually the inspiration for Batman in this universe at least so he's like bruce wayne's hero and adam west batman i believe was the inspiration for the creators of batman the animated series so there you go all comes around full circle and all of that all circle that's that's a lot of fun that again i don't know if they they work together in the booth but i hope they did yeah they often did but yeah i don't know the specifics mask of the phantasm uh which we'll probably cover one day in depth there's a moment in that where he just wants

to be happy and you know he meets the woman and he thinks this is great i'm gonna quit being batman i'm gonna i'm gonna do i'm gonna get married and i i just want to live a happy life and so he goes to his parents grave and he's just like asking for permission to be like, can I just have this one thing, please? I don't want to do this anymore. Can I just be like a normal person? And they're like, no. We didn't ask you to do this at all. What you're doing is crazy, quite frankly.

This is you. This is ridiculous. So do you know why they rebranded as the New Adventures of Batman? Because that's when they brought in all like the extended Batman, well, not all of them, but like when they brought in. A second Robin. And a bunch of, and Batgirl and a bunch of other stuff. I don't know.

Is it a syndication question? It could have been like a toy rights thing as well. Maybe, yeah. Imagine so they could do more toys. And I think that's all good stuff as well. But you mentioned Batman Beyond. Yes. And yeah, just seeing that version of Bruce Wayne who's just still Batman

but he's just like, ah, 70. And you see at the start of the very first episode as well, he's got the Terry McGinnis suit because that's his current Batman suit in the future. But he ends up drawing a gun on somebody to basically save himself. Yes. Because he's like 50 or whatever. And then he retires.

You know, it's 50. Yuck. Yuck. That's when I'll be getting a gun. But one of my favorite episodes of that as well. A little side note though. Yeah. In the, at least one episode, you can see in the Batcave,

he's kept all his gray ghost merchandise. Oh, has he? So you can still see like the goggles and the hat and stuff. I do love the continuity of that where they there's so many things that they could have done and i remember hearing a fat man and batman episode and i want to talk about that a bit later as well where they all the they could have gone out of continuity and they were like do we do like but they were thinking like do we do kid batman do we do like there's all these other directions batman babies yeah batman babies but

they the fact that they decided to go let's just jump like 40 years and but they keep all of the continuity and you see like all of these different whoever's left yes like shows up and just here's bruce wayne like as a mentor is really really good but there is an episode where he gets like de-aged significantly have you seen that oh. And it's called Out of the Past. So he basically gets a shot to be young Bruce Wayne again. Yeah, right. And initially he's like, I love this, but it's like, oh, it drives you mad or whatever, so I'm not going to do it.

Yeah. Youth, it's driven me mad. It's driven me mad. But that's a really good one as well. I feel like I'm flying through these, but that's all right, isn't it, Mason? Well, we've got to do video games as well. We've got to do video games. Yeah.

We've got another one before. I've got a couple other things I want to talk about from Justice League. I'll go ahead. So we actually have an episode on this, this on Caravan of Garbage. Spoiler alert, Mason, even though I know you're in this episode, even though we are doing Batman the Killing Joke, which you mentioned this, you reckon it's one of the flatter performances from him and Mark Hamill in that.

And I was just like. Now bearing in mind, I did say that before he died. That's true. We had to re-edit some stuff in that because I made a joke something like, well, we were talking about how they're going to do this until they're like 90 years old. And then he died like a day later after we recorded that. So we fixed that up.

But I liked hearing them do the dialogue, but you were like, eh, I can take a leave. Yeah. This. Again, I think it probably was that, I don't know, it was like discordant with that weird flat rebirth, DC rebirth. It's not good, so that doesn't help that it's not a good movie at all. Which is a shame because, you know, it was made by great people,

Bruce Timm and et cetera, and all the acting actors, you know, attempted to do their best, but it's just a weird – it was just an attempt to both modernise the storyline and I think make it more self-contained, but it sort of fell in on itself, I think. I wonder if they had that they could have maybe tied it into this animated version you know because they've got all the cast that's true some of the cast yeah so i want to just be like this is a thing that happened yeah but i also wonder if maybe and don't do all the weird stuff obviously yeah like the batman having sex with

batwoman and all that stuff i wonder if perhaps they made a conscious choice not to do that because kids... That's why it's really dark, isn't it? Well, yeah, kids watch the animated series and maybe it would get lumped in on a bonus disc on the DVD or something and kids would watch it and it would be weird. But I think with like you could have changed stuff in that to maybe you don't have the Joker take photos of Batwoman.

Or maybe, you know... Or shoot her through the spine. Exactly. Or maybe she's attempting to apprehend the Joker take photos of that woman. Yeah, or maybe, you know. Or shoot her through the spine. Exactly, or maybe she's attempting to apprehend the Joker in a warehouse and a bunch of stuff falls on her and, you know, she's in the hospital or something like that. That's heavy stuff. It's heavy stuff. Yeah. It says heavy stuff on the boxes.

That's right. 500 libs it says. Yeah, that's right. Just big Acme weights that say 500 libs. I guess the point is for this is that we didn't like it. But we also cover For the Man Who Has Everything. So there was Justice League and then there was Justice League Unlimited and I'm not sure why they.

Justice League is just the core cast. And then they go out. But I don't know why they kind of, there was a rebrand, I assume a relaunch. Yeah. It's all good stuff. And obviously Batman also appeared in the Superman animated series quite a bit. But, yeah, I enjoy, a relaunch. It's all good stuff. And obviously Batman also appeared in the Superman animated series quite a bit.

Yeah, I enjoy that quite a bit. So yeah, for the manuels, everything is good. It's also good because Batman gives, this is more of a writing thing, but he gives Superman cash for his birthday. He's like, I'm not going to give him cash. I've got tons of this. I more than know what to do with. Maybe you should buy a social media platform.

I would, but they don't exist yet. But there's- Maybe you should buy a social media platform. I would, but it doesn't, they don't exist yet, so. But there's a, and everybody would know this, including you, on the 30th episode of the second season, there's an episode called Epilogue where Batman, there's a girl called Ace who has like the powers to alter reality and she's changed all like normal people into like the Royal Flush Gang and the whole universe is collapsing in on itself because this girl's messing with it because she's been like tortured by the government.

So Amanda Waller has a device which will kill her, but she can read minds. And so Batman's like, give it to me, I'll kill her. Right. You know, which is also like he's never. One of my classic moves. I'll do my signature killing of a kid. And he takes the box and goes in and, of course, she can read.

Maybe this will finally quiet the demons in my soul if I kill this kid. So he goes in and it's also obviously like all of this, most of it. It's all excellent writing. But he goes in and he just like puts the box down and he has a conversation with her and she's like, it's unfair and, you know, and I'm dying. And she's like, will you stay with me? And he's like, you know, of course I will.

And they hold hands and then she dies. It's fucking like way too heavy for like a kid's show. But no, that's not true because kids understand stuff, you know, and it's just great. He's just really good in it. It's just a really well-written, well-acted episode and moment. Yeah. Here's something that I'm not sure if you've seen.

In between Batman Begins in the Dark Knight, there was a series of vignettes animated that came out called Batman Gotham Knight. Oh, I have seen those, yeah. Yeah. Most of them, maybe all of them are kevin conroy why have i seen that though was it on maybe mine no i we had it as yeah maybe you've seen it then but he basically does it it's sort of set in the the dark knight universe right and it's kind of his early days

and they also do an episode where they think batman is dead or they're talking about different batman stories which is similar to the you know, where the kids are telling the stories. Well, there's actually two of those. In the Batman animated series there's, or maybe it's the new Batman Adventures, there's one where the kids talk about how they maybe saw Batman or what they think Batman is like. But there's also an episode called Almost Got Him where all the various villains talk about the times they nearly got Batman.

That is a classic episode too. That is a good one, Mason. Yeah. But so the one that they've got is Have I Got a Story for You, which is, you know, again talking about and then Batman shows up at the end. I'm just having a look through whether he voiced all of them. It looks like he does.

Yeah, I think he did them all. But there's one where he's in training and there's one where he's learning like to master his like pain threshold and he's young. He's supposed to be like 20 or whatever and they were going to recast it and Kevin Conroy was like, no, I can do it. And you hear it in it. Like he sounds, he just sounds younger. He sounds more youthful.

And if you haven't seen these, they're really good. You should see them. They're just like 10 minutes each and they're really great. Yeah, it came out just before or around the time of The Dark Knight and it's just, I don't know, people don't really talk about it but it's really good and he's really good. It's good to see a good thing, isn't it? And it's not like Batman and the Joker, Batman and the whatever.

It's just like weird stuff. Yeah, right, right. Stuff that you wouldn't necessarily expect to see. Have you got another one? I've got heaps. James, I'm out. I've got some. I'm out.

You're out? That's all the things that you appreciate? Well, we're still going to talk about things that you like. There's a movie which you would have seen. Everybody's seen this. It's one of the best DC animated ones. Mask of Phantasm? We talked about that already, Mason.

I thought you'd go back up to the top of your page. No, Mason. It's you'd gone back up to the top of your page. No, Mason. It's called The Flashpoint Paradox, which is Flashpoint for the most part in animated form. And it's not a Batman movie and Batman's barely in it. But there is a moment at the end where after the Flash goes to the future and he meets Thomas Wayne who's Batman because in this reality, Bruce Wayne was killed in the alley so Thomas Wayne becomes Batman

but he's way angrier and he has a gun because he's old presumably. I'm 50. Yeah. So then he gets – so the Flash tells Thomas Wayne where he's from and who he is and all of that. And so when the Flash arrives back to his regular reality and everything's slightly different,

I think it's also when they redid all the New 52 animated stuff. That was a turning point in the animation. Bruce Wayne gets a letter from his father and so his father, who was not dead in the reality, whose son was dead, writes Bruce Wayne, who's alive, whose father is dead, a letter. You don't see the letter. You can see like a bit of it and whatever. And he says something like.

Bruce, what is going on here? Help and he says something like bruce what is going on here help is there something like you're one hell of a messenger or something like that and the delivery of that again he's barely in it he's great he's really really good uh in that one as well do you want to do some video gaming stuff yeah we could talk about um well there was actually there was an episode styled video game called The Adventures of Batman and Robin. It was a side-scrolling game. I vaguely remember that, sure.

From like the 94, I want to say. Okay. Which is like a lost episode. And they voice in that. They do their voices in that, which apparently is very good. I don't think I've ever played it. There was also a couple of games before the Arkham games that he did, Batman Vengeance and Batman Rise of Sin Su.

And apparently they're just very good episodes of like the show, but it's like early days beat them up kind of stuff. You do the Batmobile and whatever. And it's Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill and all of that come back, but they're good. But of course the ones that people would know him for most are the Arkham games. Yes.

Not that last one. Not the. Not the. Not the. Whatever that one was. Arkham Origins. Not that one. No.

Oh, yeah, he didn't do Arkham. Oh, I thought you meant Gotham Knights. But, yes, also that. Now, video games, like, they're often phoned in by the people in them. And you see that if you look at, like, the Marvel Sega games. It's like Robert Downey Jr. being like, get the Iron Man suit, I reckon. I'll use it. Chris Hemsworth did one.

Who's he talking to there? I don't know. Jarvis? Doesn't matter. Sure. He's talking to Pepper. Who am I talking to? Who do you think I'm talking to?

I don't know. Someone just get me the fucking suit. And I think it's also because he's a voice actor. He's not just a voice actor, but they don't feel phoned in, do they? No, absolutely not. At all. Was that one of the things that like, because that game, I don't know if you remember this, but that game came out of nowhere.

I remember, yeah. And I was living in- Just the whole universe. Yeah. Just, yeah. I was living in Tanzania and I remember you messaged me and you're like, this game's incredible. And I'm like, fuck, I'm stuck in fucking Tanzania. I bought my PSP, but it's useless.

I didn't even bring it. Yeah. And it also felt like a more kind of grown-up version of the animated series because they're all in it. Yeah. But it's obviously its own universe. And it's just the incredible layer of detail on the whole thing. But just being thrown into this insane world.

It's very comforting to have Kevin Conroy there, I thought. Yeah, because you're like, I'm Batman. Yeah. There's no need to worry. I'm going to be fine because I'm Batman. Yeah. That did make you feel like Batman. Yeah.

But no, there was definitely that sense of familiarity. Is that how you say it? Yeah, man. That's how you say it. Is that how you say it? Yeah, man. That's how you say it. That's how I say it. Because, yeah, because you're like, I'm Batman. I'm a Batman that I know. Yeah.

And he's not just like, give me the Batman suit somewhere. Right. Yes, yes. With all of those games, it's just, and again, like it's not like doing a TV show. They record, again, this is everybody in it. They record dialogue that you just might never see. Yeah.

And he's just talking to himself or to, you know, on the radio or to Joker's thugs or whatever the fuck. It's amazing. I think you're right. I think that first game is the best game of those. I think it is, yeah. Because it's like they didn't, they shouldn't have gone big unnecessarily. Well, it feels like a big episode of –

Something. It feels like a big movie or a big episode or like a two-parter of the cartoon or something like that where it's like there's no mucking about. There's no flying over the city. It's just – Let's do this. Let's do this. Yeah.

I still like Arkham City. I think it's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, maybe they missed a trick in being like, I mean, where do you go? A yoga trick. Thank you. But if you do like Arkham Asylum, where else do you set it? What do you do?

Do you set it in like the carnival place? Is that a big enough? Oh, yeah. Good point. What do you use? Rikers Island. Not Rikers Island. What's the-

Strikers Island. Yeah. Isn't there like a prison, isn't there? Oh. Oh, the Blackgate. there like a- There's like a prison, isn't there? Oh. Oh, the Blackgate. There is a Blackgate Batman game. Yeah, yeah. It's got a-

It's a PSP, PS Vita one. Yeah. Yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe the- But you could find a locale. That's true. Or you could make it like maybe like the level design is you got to go fucking fight someone on the other side of the world.

Richard Dragon. I don't know. So you do it like that. You have like little environments that maybe because it's basically, it is a series of like little environments connected, right? It's like a big-ish map that you can run about. Yeah, anyway, he's really good in it. But also he's Injustice Batman.

Yeah. Yeah. And he's doing two Batmen. Yeah. One's like, oh. Another one's like, oh. Sure. And you've got to have different effort sounds for when they get hit in the ball.

That's right. Is he also DC versus Mortal Kombat Batman? Let's look it up. I think he might be. I don't know about that. You look at that because I want to look up another thing, Mason. I was going to say, I didn't think he did it. Justice League Crisis on Two Earths. William Baldwin does Batman in that. Oh, okay. And was going to say, I didn't think he did it. Justice League Crisis on Two

Earths. William Baldwin does Batman in that. And he's pretty good. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. No shade on a lot of other actors who've played Batman. Like, I only recently watched some episodes of Batman the Brave and the Bold. And Diedrich Bader, who is great. He's great for that

version of Batman, which is a kind of a more of a two-dimensional, silly Batman. Yeah, but no, he's fun. And's great for that version of Batman, which is a kind of a more of a two-dimensional silly Batman. Yeah. But, no, he's fun. And I think Keanu Reeves does a pretty good Batman in Super Pets. Oh, Super Pets, right. Yeah, I think he's pretty good. Did you find it, Mason?

Tell me any secret that you have. Well, I went to Wikipedia and it wasn't there, so I went to IMDb and now I have to scroll through IMDb. What are we looking for again? Ed Boon is additional voices, and I think that's important. Mortal Kombat versus DC Wiki. Wiki, Wiki, Wild Wild, Westmason. Nice, great, love it.

David Gazzana. Oh, there you go. Well, he was probably good too. I think he was good. We don't remember. We don't remember. That's true. Well, I guess we could also talk about the one live action thing

he did as Batman. That's true. Now, I haven't watched this episode, but I have watched the clips. That's all. Yes. Up here, Ruby Rose's Kate Kane, where he's in the Batman Crisis on Infinite Earths Arrowverse multi-universe spanning situation, and he's a version of Batman who's been

like half beat to death so many times that he's in a big mechanical suit. He is stylistically I think he's meant to look like the Batman we see in Kingdom Come, the Alex Ross. But he's way more evil evil. Yeah so he's a variant on that. Yeah

I saw a, I watched some behind the scenes stuff on that, how he was talking about like this version and who he is. And he was like, you know, I always wondered whether, and he was so excited. He's like, I always wondered whether I would get to be Batman, but then I aged out of Batman. I'm like, oh, I'm never going to be Batman. He's like, but then I aged into Batman again and I get to be Batman. And he was

just, he was just really excited to do it. I thought that was, that was super cool. I should watch those actual episodes and crossovers and all of that, I guess. I think there's a certain camp fun to them all. Everybody seems to be having a nice time. Yeah. Anyway, if you have any more, Mason, let me know.

There's one more that I want to do a big recommend on. Do a big recommend, James. So this is from 2011, and I remember when this came out. It's episode 11 of Fat Man on Batmanman which has now become fat man beyond and it's branched off into other things but kevin smith and mark bernard and they used to and they not always together but they would interview people from the show uh or just various incarnations of batman and episode 11 and i i it's just such a good episode because i remember listening at the time as well it's he just talks one-on-one with Kevin Conroy.

And at that point I'd never heard him really speak at length about it. Yeah, right, right. I didn't have any of the DVDs or anything like that, but it's just like they go through the span of his career in like theatre and how he moved from theatre into voice acting and what he did and where he drew inspiration from and all these like personal experiences that he has and how he brought that from and all these personal experiences that he has and how he brought that to the role.

I met Batman once. I met Batman. He said, do it like this. And I said, I will. And it's great. So if you're looking for, I mean, there's so many good interviews of him. Even people just, he's at a con and somebody comes up with a phone and just asks him a question.

How do I work this? Help me, Batman. Can you change the settings? I made the font too small. Now it's too small to change it he's like well what you do is you go into this man thanks thanks kevin but there's yeah there's so many moments of yeah just like little moments of him just uh and cameos like he's done a bunch of cameos which which people have been posting as well. I might just read some of the ones out here from the Facebook, if you don't mind, Mason.

So Leon says, I'll probably always go with Return of the Joker. I love that film and he plays a truly damaged Bruce Wayne really well in it. Yeah, absolutely. That's a really good one. Jess says, seeing him play live action Bruce Wayne was a great way to cap off his voice work for the character. During the CW's Crisis event, he came back and did a version of Bruce Wayne with a full-body exosuit like he did in Kingdom Come. There were always ways to have him voice a similar Batman kind of character

in other shows, but I'm glad he got the chance to fully play the Batman. He will be missed. Drew says, there's a great episode of Justice League Unlimited titled Epilogue. Mason, we've covered all of these. We've covered that. Where in the future, Terry McGinnis learns the truth about his birth, which we've covered briefly. That's true. There's a fantastic interaction between Batman and Ace. Yep, absolutely.

Here's one that you said, Mason. Dan says, his rendition of Iron Blue is absolutely iconic. The Arkham trilogy is probably one of the best interpretations of Batman ever. I really love his role in the Phantom Stranger in the Batman Brave and the Bold episode, Chill of the Night. I haven't seen that. There you go. Well, it's all on some streaming service.

Probably, yeah. What do we got here? Joshua says, honestly, he was great in everything, but Arkham Knight has been my favorite Batman. It shows emotions in the most Batman way yet. Really get the feeling that he loves and will miss each member of the Bat family. Mike says, the animated series series Perchance to Dream. Conroy does a fantastic Bruce Wade in the episode as well as Batman.

I don't know. Do you remember specifically what that episode was? Was that like a Joker toxin, Miss Gorko toxin one? I can't remember. Let's look it up. Here we bloody go. Oh, that's a good looking title. He wakes up one morning to find that his life is completely different.

His parents are still alive. There's no Batcave. Alfred has no memory of Robin. And he's engaged to marry Selina Kyle. And it's some kind of mind trap. It's almost definitely a mind trap. Chill of the Night. This is from Matthew from Brave and the Bald Fitchers.

Conroy is the Phantom Stranger and Mark Hamill is the Spectre. Adam West and Julie Newmar as Bruce Wayne's parents. A really thoughtful exploration to the effect of revenge has on Batman as a person. James says, this is quite the job. Every performance he gives is a standout, but Batman slash Superman Public Enemies is a gem that's really spoken about.

I think I've seen that, but I can't remember specifically. You might have read the comic book. Yeah, I definitely read the comic book. Yeah, yeah, Superman and Batman, and it's the one where Lex Luthor is the president, and he's all, let's get him. Let's get him. Together.

Let's get these pricks. Adrian Corley says, how he was a great bloke. That's true. And Mike says, got the last one here. Mike says, Justice League Unlimited,

the Doomsday Sanction. Batman sees a kryptonite nuke is heading to an island that Superman and Doomsday are on and he and the other league is top speed and runs to their plane to stop the nuke himself. He's banged up by it. The Superman comes to talk to him.

But Batman's not a happy chappy. And he linked to the clip there. So, yeah, if people want to add to this, like, obviously, feel free to join the great mates group. But, yeah, that's really cool. The lesson we've learned is no bad performances from Kevin Conrad. Except for that one that you said. Oh, yeah, that one's not, yeah.

But that's only you. The one that I publicly said. I don't think that at all, Mason. Anyways, I'm glad we got to do this because I feel like often when somebody dies we're like, we should do this, and then we like forget and time moves on and whatever. But, no, that's what an incredible legacy. And I do hope that there are some other things that he's got in the works.

I know he did work on, I think, what is it, He-Man Season 2, the Kevin Smith one. And again, as that thing I said last week, he was, it says on IMDb, so who knows that he was Thomas Wayne in that new Batman animated series that's coming out. But again, I don't know whether that's true. We'll find out. Anyways, incredible, Mason.

Yeah. So incredible that I feel sad to be leaving and to go to the next segment of the show, which do you remember what that could be called? I think it's called what we read. Colon or possibly comma? Sure. Question mark?

Yeah. What are we going to read? You say think. Do you want to get more definitive on that? It's too late. The theme song's playing. I'm doing the theme. Westworld.

Oh, wait. I'm not supposed to do that anymore, am I? You can do what you want, man. That was an absolute my instincts kicked in, Mason. Wow. But, of course, sections like this are strictly reserved for things that we're going to read or have read or watch or listen to, et cetera, and so forth. Sections like this are only possible with a grant

from the government. Is that true? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How much have we got? From Daniel Andrews, our state premier. That's right. We get a reduced parking fee in the city. It's only $14 an hour.

I hate that. So I'm just closing this door because it's cold, city. It's only $14 an hour. I hate that. So I'm just closing this door because it's cold, Mason. It's cold. Wow. You know, in closing that door, you gave me a big gust of cold wind. That was the plan. Wow. That was the plan, Mason.

Wow. So what are you doing aside from talking about Dan Andrews? Well, I watched a couple of movies this week. Oh, really? I finally watched Confess Fletch. Oh, was that live? It's fun. Pretty low stakes. Pretty low stakes.

Love low stakes. John Hamm is an absolute delight, as you might imagine, and annoying. Hey, Mason, what about this? Yes. This is a riff. We start a restaurant. It's called Low Stakes, and you eat steaks on the floor, cross-legged. I love it.

They bring it out, and they go, here's your low stakes. We serve them. We do. So we're responsible for this. Yeah. And we say, here's your low stakes. We serve them. We do. So we're responsible for this. Yeah. And we say, here's your low stakes. And then we laugh. And whoever's there is with us, they laugh.

I do love to laugh. That's actually very good. And we do that for the rest of our lives. The rest of our lives? Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. What do you think? Even when the business, it probably has an initial social media boost

and it's quite popular. Why would you do this? And then people are like, we actually prefer to eat at a table with chairs and stuff. We're like, there you get it. Come on, there you guys get it. And then we continue to do it for the rest of our lives even though profits are down.

Yeah, yeah. We could also not cook the steaks and there could be a hot plate on the floor. I know that would be dangerous. But people were like, they could cook their own meat on there, you know, and that way we don't have to cook. We just bring out snacks. It could be dangerous, but as people go into the restaurant,

we could go and don't step on that bit of the floor because it's real hot, and they would never know if we were being serious or not. Yeah, but also shoes off. Yeah, yeah. Shoes off in our house. Disrespectful. Also, when we come out, we'll hold the plates in our mouths. Okay.

Because we've got to be low, so we'll worm our way across the room. Oh, so we can't. We've got to keep it low. Keep it low. Because the stakes always have to be low. Yeah. Because you're absolutely right, because if the stakes ever became high, in a way the stakes.

We'd be a laughing stock, but in a bad way. Yeah. In a way, ensuring the stakes were low, the stakes would never be higher. That's right. Damn, that's great. We could use that. That could be our slogan. We could guarantee it.

Like at those, you know, the pizza place, it's like, if we don't deliver your pizza in 30 minutes, it's free. Yeah. We could be like, if the stakes go above a certain level in the restaurant, you get them for free. I love that. People will be constantly trying to push the stakes up from the ground. But we'd be like, no.

No, no, no, we'd shoot them. It's not like guns. Because we're 50. Yeah. Cool. Anyway, so you're in? Yeah, I think so. Great.

What could go wrong? We'll put it in the CBD, the Central Business District. Nice. We could have like rich business people come in. They'd be like, this is an odd place, but the stakes have never been higher. We're also very odd. Yeah, that's right. Cool.

Anyway, what were you really saying? I was watching Confess. That was a riff I just wanted to do. I loved how you did odd. Yeah, that's right. Cool. Anyway, what were you really saying? I was watching Confess Fletch. That was a riff I just wanted to do. I loved how you did it. I loved that you finally did a riff. I appreciated that. Go on. A lesser man would have vetoed that riff, obviously.

Is that you you mean? No. Because you didn't veto it. I didn't veto it. No, I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, that's right. Anyway, Confess Fletch.

It's fun. What's it about? It's about some missing art and a moida. Is there a gun? Yes, there is a gun. Great. You'd know that if you watched the trailer, James. You'd know there's a gun.

I've had watched the trailer. I just don't remember everything that's ever fucking happened to me, Mason. I'm sorry. Jesus. Well, maybe stop with these pipe dreams where you're making a stand. Pipe dreams? That's right. Excuse me?

James, you just don't have what it takes to be in the restaurant business. That is true. But that's why I've reduced all the elements of risk. The actual cooking of the steaks. That's right. If we just buy high quality steaks, all the onus is off us. There are no salads or chips. It's just steaks.

We don't even do cutlery. They just have to use their fingers to flip the steak. As it's cooking? Yeah. Wow. How do they eat the steak? I don't give a fuck, Mason. Yes, that's true.

We give them a napkin. I guess you get them to play. Or a newspaper. Pick a newspaper they can throw it up. We give them yesterday's newspaper. Yeah, or today's. We're not going to read them anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What if there's a downturn in the newspaper business? You've got to cover all angles. I don't know, Mason. Wow. Also, no toilets. I don't want people coming and using our toilets, all right? Okay. And if they say, well, where do you guys go to the toilet?

We'll say there's a specific- We say our homes. We go home. We hold it. We go home because we're not animals. That's right. But if you need to go to the toilet, there's another restaurant next door that's not affiliated with us.

Anyway, you're back in. Yeah, I'm back in. It's your passion. Yeah, it's our passion. Yeah, that's true. Anyway, so confess Fletch. Yeah, it's fun. Great.

Yeah, he's a real fast talker and I like that. I like the sort of like that, you know, he's just a guy who rolls with everything. Can you see this becoming a franchise or like Jon Hamm's coming back, he's just a guy who rolls with everything. Can you see this becoming a franchise? Or like Jon Hamm's coming back, he's going to confess again. I would love to see another one. Yeah. But I'm not sure how well this did financially. Did it go straight to streaming?

I think it did, didn't it? It definitely did in Australia. Yeah. So I don't know. Almost certainly. Almost certainly. Well, you do that. But I also watched See How They Run, which is the Sam Rockwell,

Saoirse Ronan 1950s. Is that at the movies? Who didn't? It was at the movies. It's on Disney Plus now. Oh, is it? Yes. Cool.

I'm going to watch that. Yeah, but it's sort of a – it is, again, a bit of fun. Love fun. Yeah, so it's sort of a farcical murder mystery based around a murder that happened during a farcical murder mystery based around a murder that happened during a farcical murder mystery on stage. Nice. So Confess Fletch cost $20 million. Okay.

And it made $580,000. Oh, that's less. That's not good at all. That's way less, actually. So, yeah. But there is a sequel shortly after the film's release. Malotta said he had been hired to write a sequel based on the 1978 novel Fletcher's Fortune, but he's not sure if it would ever get made.

I mean, depending on streaming, I guess. All we have to do is wait another 30 years. Easy. Somebody else who loved this one will make the next one. You, maybe. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I'll funnel all my low-stakes money to it, I guess. Yeah, some of it. A fraction, because we'd have so much money. So much money, exactly. Money to maybe. I mean, I'll funnel all my low-stakes money to it, I guess. Yeah, some of it.

A fraction because we'd have so much money. So much money, exactly. Yeah, money to burn. You know why? Because we saved on toilets. That's right. And chips and salads and stuff. Yeah, so it's just steaks. Coloury.

Just steaks. Just steaks. Yeah, right. Yeah, cool, man. Have you seen that video? It's on YouTube and it's on Twitter. It's the bear, but they only serve peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and water. I'll send it to you.

Please do. You said you were going to send me something last week, goth Frasier or something and you didn't. Oh, grunge Frasier. I couldn't find it this week. I kept looking for goth Frasier and I'm like, God damn it. Wow. Oh, speaking of, I think that came up because we did a commentary for Spawn.

That's right. If you check out bigsandwich.co, but if you are, I guess if you're still here after that, the riff on the steaks, you might still be interested in that. That's right. Bigsandwich.co, but if you are, I guess if you're still here after that, the riff on the steaks, you might still be interested in that. That's right. Bigsandwich.co, it's nine bucks a month. It's like our Patreon. In a way, for us, the stakes have never been higher

with regards to people turning off the podcast and never coming back after. That's a riff I would not do up top of the episode, Mason. Absolutely not. Yeah, that's a 150 minutes in thing to do. Anyway, should we move to the next segment of the show? Anyway, Spawn, it's bad, but we talk about it. What have you been?

Oh, yeah, Mason. Well, I've done a bunch of stuff. Oh, you've done some worldwide stuff. Yeah, yeah, but I downloaded and bought the first volume of A Righteous Thirst for Justice, you know, the image comic. Oh. Apparently it's very good. Okay.

And look, the character looks just like, what's his name? Who plays Wong? Batman. Whose real name is Wong in real life as well. Benedict Wong. Benedict Wong. He looks like him. Huh.

So people are like, did you just draw this guy to look like Benedict Wong so he could be the character? I hope so because I think it'd be cool. Anyway, apparently it's very good. I haven't read it but I've downloaded it and I plan to read it. Sap. So there we go. There you go. And i've done other things i saw a strange world but i'm probably going to talk about that on

suggestible so that with your son yes i did what did he think of it he thought it was good mason okay great even though it's not tied to an existing ip no i know your son loves an existing ip he loves two things existing ips yeah and making nunchucks and then hitting me with them that's true as i arrive at your house that's true he likes those two things but existing IPs and making nunchucks and then hitting me with them as I arrive at your house. That's true. He likes those two things. But also he doesn't know. Everything's new.

So existing IP means nothing to him. He doesn't know that there's 400 incarnations of the turtles. I think you should educate him about existing IP and tell him that the only thing that is good is existing IP. And also companies merging and buying other companies. That's true. Did you see that Blumhouse might be merging with, what was it? What were they merging with this week?

Dumbhouse. No, James Wan's production. Dumbhouse, which is the Zucker Brothers takeoff of Blumhouse. They can use the same sets. I guess they could. Now, what is it? James Wan's production, Twisted Pictures. Is it Twisted Pictures?

It might be. Also another one. It might be called like The Conjuring something now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, but they might become one. Interesting. I love when two companies become one company. Oh, my God, yes, please.

You know that about me. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's a restaurant we could merge with, but I don't think we should, at least not in the short term. Mason, what's the next segment of the show? It's called Letters. Great.

And it's got a theme and it goes like this. What if the other restaurant was called Lettuce and then it could be Steak and Lettuce? I thought you said no sides. No, I know, but that would be, no, we would have taken it too far because people would have been like, they'd know us for not having sides. Exactly. Right?

You're right. We could merge with one of those restaurants where the staff are really rude to you. Okay. That still exist in 2022. Like intentionally rude to you? Yeah, like there's a Karen's Diner. I've seen that, yeah.

And I saw the guy who got really mad because he got insulted or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not interested in any of that. No. I'd probably go to a regular restaurant. Where they don't yell at you. Yes.

As much. Could we promise that? We won't yell at you? No. Yeah, no, I wouldn't. Yeah. It's dangerous ground there. The whole place is dangerous, Mason.

Oh, yeah. Everyone's barefoot and there's grills on the floor and we're crawling around like worms. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, here's the lettuce thing. The classic one was... Lettuce, oh, lettuce, we love you. Some lettuce, they're only a day away.

I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. If you do want to reach the show to tell us to stop riffing. Wow. Or just have a general chat. Or continue riffing. Or continue riffing. Hit over to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com.

Don't hit over there. Send a Gmail to that. Or hashtag us, weeklyplanetpod. Hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter. Mason, do you have a letter for us? This is from Parker, and Parker says, Car troubles and I blame you. What?

Hi, James and Mason. I'm a relatively new fan, but in the past six months or so, I've fallen in deep and have become an absolutely avid listener to the pod. Yes. I haven't had a good reason to write in until now. I've noticed with some amusement, foreshadowing, the trend of horrible disasters befalling listeners mid-episode, though of course I never expected it to happen to me.

The weekly planet curse strikes again. Anyway, I've just had my first ever automobile accident while in the middle of one of your old episodes. Luckily I'm uninjured and I'm currently listening to the rest of the episode while on the 90-minute Uber ride home. In happier news, I've just gotten a job at Disneyland and I'm looking forward to listening to my favourite Australian film nerds on my drive to and from.

Can I be named the official Disneyland cast member of the pod? Cheers. Very good. I'm curious as to what the job at Disneyland is. Smashing cars together. Perfect. I'm glad you're okay. Anyways, you're lucky that you didn't die.

So anyway, we're blessed. We're blessed. You're blessed. you're okay. Anyways, you're lucky that you didn't die. So anyway, we're blessed. We're blessed. You're blessed. Go out and seek out your dreams, whether it be being the best Disneyland cast member you can be or a restaurant that only serves steaks below a certain level of the restaurant. That's right. And if the steak goes above that level, you get the steak for free.

But that's our idea. Yeah. So don't do that one. Should we weigh the plates down? With what? Like lead weights. So that they get even lower. Well, yeah, but then people can't push up against them.

But then we have to carry them out, though, in our mouths. We could put them on our wheels. I guess we could put them on our wheels. Nudge them with our nose like we're a seal. Oh, yeah, sure, yeah. Something to think about. It is something to think about. You could even just try a few weeks of like

and just see how it plays out in the restaurant. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get our method down pat. Yeah. Yeah. Cool, man. Great stuff.

Also, nice things happen to people who listen to the show too, right? Very true. Do you find a lottery ticket? And maybe you won enough money to get another lottery ticket? Has that ever happened to you? Oh, yeah, no, not bad, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, this is a broad direction.

Have you ever had that situation? It's happened to me recently where your workplace is like, there's a big jackpot. There's a big bloody lottery jackpot. You've got to put $100 in because you don't want to. I have to. You have to. I cannot let all my friends win $50 million.

What if they all win? What if they all win? What if they all win? And then they're all driving off in their Ferraris and I'm like, well, I guess I'll go to work. Yeah. Boo. Boo. Yeah, I hate that.

Because I know I'm not going to win. Yeah. But what if they win? Right. And then I don't win. But anyway, it happened the other day and I won $27. Yeah. Did they go back in the pot?

No. Because my mates are like, let it ride. Let's go again. I'm like, all right, whatever. Oh, we lost it? Interesting. But I figure as long as I stay involved, nobody's ever going to win, and I'm happy with that.

That's great. I would rather nobody win than them win and I don't win. That's true, yeah. Yeah. There we go. That's an interesting calculation you've made. I respect it. This is from Broderick Henry.

Just a cosmic ruining of other people's lives. Yes, Mason. Great. Broderick Henry says, first of all, hashtag weekly planet pod, which is the perfect hashtag to reach us. But also, hello, boys. I just wonder if you all read the DC Just Imagine miniseries which Stan Lee wrote his version of Justice League members' origins.

And I guess the recent Marvel's Heroes Reborn where they made the Marvel version of the Justice League. You have read this, correct? I've read Stanley Imagines. And? They're not. They're very Stanley. Yeah.

But it's just like, what if, what would a Superman look like? It's just a man who's really super. What would a Batman, well, he'd have a head of a bat, wouldn't he? Oh, it's like that, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, great. I don't know to what degree. So he's a bat.

He's a literal bat. That's man bat. Well, I think you're incorrect there because obviously. So it's just literal interpretation. Hang on, I'll see if I can find one. All right, I'll also look it up. DC's just imagine. But it's also, it's like these characters already exist

and they're already like perfected at this point. Yes, exactly. And you're asking someone to be like, do a new version of this. Yeah, there he is, classic. Oh, yeah, he's a bat he's a bat but a man it's weird he's got arms i hate this yeah it's pretty good he looks like a gargoyle yeah he's more of a gargoyle isn't he started out as a wrestler i think this character okay that's really good anyway bad you say i didn't care for it. Yeah. Cool. But what about the new one, Marvel's Heroes Reborn?

I haven't done that either. That's a great question. Is that a riff on the 90s Heroes Reborn? It's a recent Marvel's Heroes Reborn where they made the Marvel version of the Justice League. Oh, I don't know that at all. No. I'll check it out. I won't.

I bet it's great. I'll let you check it out. But I'll also go to JB Hi-Fi and get this Mego 8-inch action figure of Stanley. It's only $50. Only? No, it's $30. Only?

I could buy that with my lottery winnings. No, you couldn't. And I'd have $3 left. No, you'd have $3 to put in extra because you won $27. I only won $27. Dang. I'm beginning to think this restaurant, we won't put you on the books, Mason. You know?

Because I'd be taking $3 at a time. Yeah. I'd be cooking the books $3 at a time. He's wearing his signature yellow sweater. Look at that. That looks just like him. That's one thing that toys, like, have always struggled with until, like, more recently.

If you put them in clothes, the clothes look so thick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because fabric is so thick. Oh, my God. He's got his famous gabardine slacks. Incredible. I love that. It's only $30 as well.

Only $30. I could put it up next to my Captain America. Anyways, what else have you got in the business? This is from James. That's me. Well, it might be because the subject line is, my wife doesn't get it. Hi, James, little James, and that guy who sorts the mail. Listening since almost the very beginning. me ah well it might be because the subject line is my wife doesn't get it hi james little james

and that guy who sorts the mail listening since almost the very beginning yuck yes and wanted to write in to say a huge thank you my son was born last year and as other as a father i can say it's completely exhausting especially the heart-stopping moments at 2 a.m when you hear him cry out thinking it's party time when dad just really needs to go to sleep yeah baby your aimless ramblings have got me through many a tough night. I decided to introduce you to my wife yesterday, something I've never tried to do before. I started with James' rant about Elon Musk and the situation at Twitter.

I think she lasted about 30 seconds before her eyes glazed over and she stopped to leave the room muttering, that's total chaos. That's not the best jumping in point for a nervous first listener. Anyway, she might yet come around. She might. Don't worry about it. In worst case scenario, there is always divorce.

Wanted to say a huge thanks. Don't stop. Don't ever stop. James from the UK. If you don't know us and you've had a baby, you don't want this. You don't need that. That's true. Yeah.

Ah, yeah. You've got to get them at their best. That's true. Show them an animation. Oh, yeah. Show them a little fun caravan of garbage. A little fun. A bit of fun.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, all that Elon Musk stuff, I don't mean it. He's normal. He is very normal. Yeah, I think I forgot to say that at the end. Physically, psychologically, very normal. Hair's normal. Normal. It's all normal. Yeah. It's normal.

He's just normal. He's just a normal man. This is from David. Hashtag weekly platypod. I just watched Iron Number 4 again this week. These financials, they're all probably really normal. I reckon they're normal. It's not in the hold of any weird governments or anything. No. No.

If anything, it's normal. Very normal. Again this week, and I think it'll make a great Caravanser garbage. It's Iron Number 4. Maybe you could do films that tried and failed to be the next Twilight. Yeah, I like the idea of doing like a failed YA. There's Mortal Instruments, City of Bones. Oh, I remember that one.

That's you're thinking of London on Wheels maybe. Yeah. Not that one. There's another one that's called Mortal. Engines? Engines something something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.

No, not that one. Something else. It's called Mortal Instruments something. You're thinking of Mortal Engines. Yeah, I don't know what it's called, something, something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. No, not that one. It's something else. It's called Mortal Instruments something. You're thinking of Mortal Engine. Yeah, I don't know what it's called, Mason. Okay. But there was a number of them. Home Run, buddy, sure.

It was two Divergent movies apparently. Mm-hmm. Even like the Maze Runner, that did well though, didn't it? That finished up. So yeah, I've seen Iron Man before. I saw it at cinemas. I remember thinking it was okay. It's a wild cast list of The Hunger Games when you think about it.

Yeah. Like there's one movie, it's got Jennifer Lawrence and it's got. Someone else. It's got a bunch of other people. It's got a third or fourth person. Yes. Yeah, I remember all of that. I can't remember a single other person.

Julia. Julia Moore is in one of them, yeah. Julia Moore, yeah. Got bloody. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Jeffrey Wright. Jeffrey Wright. Is Jeffrey Wright in those? Yeah, he's in those movies. He is. Lenny them, yeah. Got bloody... Philip Seymour Hoffman. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Geoffrey Wright. Geoffrey Wright.

Is Geoffrey Wright in those? Yeah, he's in those movies. Lenny Kravitz. Wesley Bentley. Wesobento. Wesobento box. That's right. Woody Harrelson.

Elizabeth Banks. Stanley Tucci. Donald Sutherland. Wow. Yeah. Is he still alive? He is, yeah. Incredible.

Mason, what's next? I said with absolute confidence, but not knowing. Here's one more email. This is from Connor. Incredible. Mason, what's next? I said with absolute confidence but not knowing. Here's one more email. This is from Connor. Connor? Hey, you crazy mates. My name's Connor and I've been a fan since I was in elementary school in 2014 and now I'm in college.

You've helped me through so much, including losing my grandpa, my sister, as well as choosing to follow my love for movies in my academic studies. Damn, man, that sucks. Not the third thing. Sorry to hear that. Studies is good. Sorry for the downer, but I just wanted to say how grateful I was that you two exist.

Also, just to be cheeky, I was wondering if I could be the official Oklahoman of the pod. Absolutely. I mean, there might be another one, but you've overtaken. Oklahoma something, something musical. Here's some fan art I made while bored in my class. Let's go. What I like about these is each of us gets a normal one and a caricature one. Yeah.

And you're going to like your caricature one real good. Okay. Here's me normal. You look normal. Pretty normal there, pretty normal. There's me, I'm all beard. I'm all beard, this guy. That still looks like you.

It looks a lot like me. I'm all sad and beard and I've got rigged teeth. What's he drawn on? What kind of paper is that? Is it a papyrus? It looks like a papyrus. Interesting. It's probably busted in the Egyptian studies room and he's Is it a papyrus? It looks like a papyrus. Interesting. It's probably busted in the Egyptian studies room

and he's drawn all that papyrus. And I say, good, it's only going to waste. Yeah, exactly. And here's your normal. That's me, normal. Looking good. Only raised eyebrow, looking normal. And there's your cartoon you.

There's cartoon you. I look terrible in that one. No, I think you look great. I appreciate that. He's got all the odd proportions of me. I think a good caricature emphasizes all your insecurities. That is true. And they've nailed all of that.

They've nailed that. Yeah. My puffy face. One of your eyebrows is physically always higher. You know what I don't like about my facial hair at the moment, Mason? What's that? I used to have like a black beard, like black beard. Yes.

But now it's like gray. Like gray beard. So from a distance, like gray beard. Yes. But now it's like grey. Like grey beard. So from a distance, like grey beard. But the moustache is dark. So it looks like I've just grown a moustache. You're deliberately growing a moustache. But I'm not doing that. But that's just how I look now.

That's true. What do I do? You should grey out your moustache. I can't. It's taking too long. It's taking too long, Mason. What do you mean? This part.

It's taking too long to grey. Oh, no, I'm saying you. I'd die. You'd die if you greyed. No. Wouldn't I die the rest of it? Nope. Okay.

That's right. Grey out your moustache. Or you could be Mr. Personality and have like a blue beard or something. Oh, fuck that. No maintenance, Mason. No excess maintenance. That's what they call me, no maintenance, Mason. As a landlord, that's what they call me, no maintenance, Mason.

I don't know why. Probably because I'm so low maintenance. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, all my tenants call me no maintenance, Mason. I don't know why. Probably because I'm so low maintenance. Yeah, I would say so. All my tenants call me no maintenance, mate. Kicking back. This is from Nathan who says, I've seen you guys cover Hulk. I was wondering your opinions on the film Chopper with Eric Banner.

I only recently just watched it for the first time. Any thoughts on this movie? Hashtag weekly planet pod. It's a classic Australian movie. It's interesting, Andrew Dominic who directed that went on to this Blonde, which is the Marilyn Monroe movie with Anna Diamus that nobody likes.

And here's the thing, I haven't seen it, so I don't know. No, but apparently it's atrocious. Apparently it's atrocious, and people are like, this is gross. And I sort of like, the Australian underworld is kind of gross, which is where Chopper is from, and I don't know. I don't know what happened there in the interim.

And he also did the assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford, which is very good. Killing Them Softly is apparently good, yeah. He directed some Mindhunter episodes. Right. There you go. I don't know. I'll have to watch it and figure it out for myself.

He hasn't directed much, though. He takes his time on things. Yeah. It was 10 years between Killing Them Softly and then Blonde in 2012. But of course he did some movies in between. But Chopper's a classic of the genre. It is. And Neville Bartosz, et cetera.

Various memes that- Neville Bartosz, et cetera. That's exactly right. Also there's an Australian comedian whose name's Ronnie something, I think, who does- A parody of that. But he's done it every year since probably 2002 when this movie came out. He was on the Ronnie Johns half hour. So the performer's name is?

Matt Chopper. It's not Matt Chopper. I'll not remember. Anyways, he does that. And I think he seems to be having a good time or he's just trapped in this thing that he did. He may be. But it seems he sells out still.

Heath Franklin. Heath Franklin, yeah. But the real Chopper is dead. He is dead. It's true. So there you go. So if you want to make your own comedy character about him, there's nothing he can do.

Nope. He didn't even mind this one. Yeah, but I remember about that guy. He said about the guy who impersonated the Chopper, he does fake Chopper. Start this whole sentence again. Who are you talking about? The real Chopper Reed thought the guy who did the fake Chopper Reed,

he said he does a very good impersonation of Eric Banner doing an impersonation of me because it's obviously an exaggerated version, you know, twice removed. Anyway, is that everything? That's the whole show, folks. That's cool. Thank you so much for listening. Thanks for getting to this point after the debacle, the restaurant restaurant debacle no there will be no restaurant debacles it will be

all smooth sailing okay mason thanks everybody for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get new listeners maybe don't tell your wife or maybe ease them in with a episode episode of thing that they like we did we did, what's a movie? Does your wife like The Abyss? We record an episode for The Abyss. Also, I just want to point out, I bring up the movie Backdraft in that and how it's got an amazing practical set. And then there was released a Corridor Crew video

where they talk specifically about Backdraft and whatever and all the pirate techniques. And I'm like, God damn it. People are going to think that I watched that video and then went, I remember Backdraft. But I've been watching Backdraft since the 90s because my dad is a firefighter and was like, this fucking sucks.

Really? Yeah, he's like, this is bullshit. No, he actually thought it was hilarious. Why is that? Because it's all, like, dumb. Oh, like the drama of it or the technical aspects of it? All of it, technical aspect of it. Interesting.

The way that these guys go down like all the time, just like die to fires. It's like you wouldn't do any of this shit. Right. Yeah. And there was a sequel recently. Well, I'd recommend it staying as far away as possible and then using the hose on it.

That's what I would say. Yeah, yeah. My brother's like, you don't go into a fucking house fire if you don't have to. You just let it burn out. Sure. You don't even go. He said, my brother's also a firefighter.

You call it sick. Yeah. I've been doing it for years. Yeah. I've never even seen a fire. He said, my brother's also a firefighter. You call it sick? Yeah. I've been doing it for years. Yeah. I've never even seen a fire. That's right. I'm actually afraid of fire. I've got an electric stove.

I wouldn't even use a gas stove. Anyway, Mason, what were you saying? I was saying thank you to everybody who leaves a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice. Yeah. That's right. Because that does some algorithm thing, I think. Emily Joy has actually left us one, five stars.

She says, best Twilight Saga podcast. A friend turned on to this twilight movie review podcast and i've been really enjoying it i feel like twilight is not talked about enough these days not sure who these dudes are but as long as they keep talking about the twilight saga i'll i'm definitely here to stay what we talked a little bit about today so you better look we've done a series of videos that's right a grand old time it's from jay44. He says, like having two good friends. I'll listen to these two talk about. Can you imagine? Yeah.

I'll listen to these two talk about anything. Thank God for that because we'd be in trouble. But it's better that it's about movies and comic book stuff. Thank you so much. Those were just done in app. That's incredible. And that's the beauty of podcasting. As far as you know.

Woody, is there another way to do it? I don't know. Maybe they did it the hard way. In which case, two thanks. A browser? Maybe they did it in a browser. Two thanks? I mean, they're still doing a review, just one review.

I think they should get two thanks. I don't think so, Karen. I don't think so. And if they didn't listen but they gave a nice review anyway, thank and a half. Thank and a half. Thank and a half. Yeah.

Oh, wait, no, because that's the easiest way out, isn't it? You don't listen and you leave a review. But that's the least amount of work for the most amount of thank. It's very true. I love least amount of work. Anyway, folks, thank you so much. If you would like to get into contact with us, you can go to Weekly Planet Pod at Twitter, at Facebook, at Bandcamp.

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I don't think we are. James, is that what happens? I don't think we are. I can't veto, but I'm saying no, I don't think we are. Okay, great. Yeah, no, I didn't think that either. I'm actually familiar with TikTok. But yeah, we have some clips over there on TikTok if you want to track that

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I'm good at telling other people. I agree. I've done some spot welds. I did some spot welds. Yeah? Yeah, I know. No, it's good to tell people to weld when you can't lift your arms above your head.

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You've got to admit it. Spawn, yeah. Spawn commentary up there. Spawn commentary. Bit of fun there. Bit of fun. Goes a bit off the rails towards the end. Does it?

Yeah. What did we do? Something about a toilet. I can't remember. Oh, yeah. It gets silly. It does get very silly. Yeah.

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I don't know whether we're going to be doing something. It'll probably be us celebrating the win of the podcast awards. Oh, yeah. So we'll probably do 40 to 50 minutes on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then a Snake Eyes review. A Snake Eyes review. And then we'll do the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special.

If there's time. If there's time. Yeah, but that might be a YouTube video. But probably not. It probably is still a show. Cool. Oh, and there's going to be an Andor. Oh, yeah, colleagues.

We've seen the rest of Andor, everybody. It's not as much of a brag now that 11 episodes. Nah, man. We've seen it all. We watched it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. uh so anyway so we had thoughts of course yeah if you like and or um you should probably watch the final episode if you're 11 in yeah and if you don't you should watch it it's good yeah if you're like i hate star wars um like i do mostly yeah you might like this i was very pleasantly surprised what a what a heck of a show in in my opinion.

I agree. I am a show. There you go, Mason. Put your fidget spinner back or whatever. Oh, all right. Put it back in the case. All right. And we'll see you people all on the next episode of this show

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