The Weekly Planet - 457 The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

Merry Christmas everyone! Because this week we're talking the Guardians Of The Galaxy Holiday Special from James Gunn. Plus the return of Bob Iger, Avatar 2's box office challenge, Tarantino on the m...odern movie star and more. Thanks for listening!Do Go On podcast with Nick Mason: https://shows.acast.com/do-go-on/episodes/37-the-mary-celesteConfessions podcast with Nick Mason: https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/confessions-680796/episodes/reuben-kaye-nick-mason-156207074Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.00:00 The Start03:36 Changes at Disney: Battle of the Bobs22:37 MCU Thunderbolts Movie Villain27:08 Quentin Tarantino Says Some Quentin Tarantino Stuff39:01 New Director for Blade Movie39:57 Avatar: The Way of Water's Box Office Challenge42:12 The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special (spoilers 50:04 to 01:03:25)01:03:25 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:12:33 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:10 My voice, Mason. Oh, yes? It didn't start well. I thought you started very well. No, no, I didn't. My voice was a bit craggling, you know? A bit craggling? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Like the MCU's craggling? No, different. Oh, okay. But anyway, this is where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. And with me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. There we go. I feel better.
Starting point is 00:01:28 That was great. I think you did fine. I think it's because immediately before this, immediately before we hit record, we had a conversation where I said that sometimes when I guest on podcasts, I will listen back for a second and I feel like I'm too close to the mic and I'm like. And you're always going. I am always going. And Colleen said it's that out of this.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Cause on the, on the, on the, on my guest appearances, I'm like, I've tricked him again. I made it on this podcast. I don't know. I don't know. I got nothing to say, but I tricked him. I tricked him. But speaking of, yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:01 It's me, Mason. I'm here. I was a guest on not one, but two podcasts this week. God, you busy much podcasting Mason? Very extremely. So me, Mason. I'm here. I was a guest on not one but two podcasts this week. God, you busy much podcasting, Mason? Very, extremely. So tired. Yeah, I bet. Go on, though. Do not have the energy for this podcast because I did those other two podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:14 But first of all, I was on our pal Sam Peterson's podcast, Confessions. He's given it a bit of a rebrand. It's just called Confessions. Love it, love it. Podcast with Sam Peterson. I was on with a new friend, first first time met him, Ruben Kay. He was a sort of a very funny comedian, actor, cabaret performer. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:02:29 He does it all. A triple threat. Triple threat. Wonderful, love it. And he had a gun. Oh, no. Quadruple threat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 He was like, be funny. I'm like, wasn't planning on it, but all right. It was a bit of fun, and we listened to online confessions, and we gave them terrible advice. Nice. Well, that's great. That's what it's all about. And it was also on our pals Do Go On's podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:47 They're doing Blocktober. Oh, yeah. Which is the biggest and best most requested topic. Even though it's November. Well, it's Blovember. It's Blocktober and then Blovember. They've extended it. I think it was nine topics this year.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And I try to make an appearance during Blocktober slash Blovember. So this time we listened to the story. Jess did a great report on the story of the Mary Celeste, the ship that came into shore and there was nobody on the ship and what happened to everybody on the ship. Maybe it was a ghost but it wasn't a ghost. Did they check in and around the ship? Were they hanging on to the back?
Starting point is 00:03:20 They didn't check in and around the ship. That's what I would have done. Yeah, right? You should have been there. Anyway, we solved the mystery. Oh, cool. So I don't need to listen to it? No.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Okay, great. Because I solved it just now. You solved the mystery. Wow. Mason, there's plenty of mysteries afoot this week. And by that, I mean news items before we get to the main topic of the week, which is the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special. Winter in a way is a mystery also.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Also, we're doing Knives Out, Glass Onion next week, which is also a mystery. Which is definitely a mystery. But if you're going to see it, it's only in cinemas for a few more days. Yeah. It's got a one-week release. And then it disappears for a month or whatever. Yeah, depending on where you are in the world, if you're listening to this the day it comes out, you might
Starting point is 00:03:56 have a day to see it in cinemas. And I haven't seen it yet, so I've got to rush out to cinemas. And somebody gave me some gold clasps to get to a while back and I'm like, finally, I can use these for something good. Somebody gave you some gold clasps. So I won't like, finally, I can use these for something good. Somebody gave you some gold cluster. I won't say who, Mason, because I don't remember. Anyways. Get a load of this guy.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Here's the news. Get a load of this guy. Somebody gave you a million dollars worth of tickets. It was a million dollars. I don't even remember. I don't even remember who gave me those tickets. So we've got Bob Iger is back, Mason. Big news.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Huzzah. I mean, I guess. Yeah, yeah. One CEO got changed for another is back, Mason. Big news. Huzzah! I mean, I guess. Yeah, yeah. One CEO got changed for another interchangeable CEO. That's right. Who's slightly better in some ways and probably slightly worse in other ways. Sounds about right, Mason. Also, Avatar 2 is coming out soon.
Starting point is 00:04:36 We'll talk about the budget of that. Blade has a new director also, and that's pretty much the news of the week. But this first bit of news, there's a lot of information going on here, Mason. Okay, sure. If you don't mind me saying so. Let's call this the Battle of the week. But this first bit of news, there's a lot of information going on here. Okay, sure. If you don't mind me saying so. Let's call this the Battle of the Bobs, Mason. Okay, sure. So Bob Chapek.
Starting point is 00:04:52 B-O-B? Yes. B-O-T-B? Yes. Okay. Bob Chapek. Because B-O-B is that Outkast song. And it's also just Bob.
Starting point is 00:04:58 The name Bob. Yeah. Then it should be B-O-B. Move over, Outkast. You split up 15 years ago anyway. Move over, though. Move over. Scooch further back.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yes. So Bob Chapek, who was the, he's been the Disney CEO for a couple of years. He was handpicked by previous Bob, Bob Iger, to replace him because Bob Iger planned to retire after all. Pretty much he'd done everything that he wanted to do. He was going to have a retiger. That's right. And he said.
Starting point is 00:05:27 It's time to retire. Is that what he said? Your dad, Mason? Because that's the joke? That is the joke. That he's your dad? Yeah, yeah. I don't know why we got onto that.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It's also not a joke. It's real. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I never joke about my family. So the idea was that, I would say, the Disney board in particular were not happy with the I thought you were going to say the Disney boys.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Yeah, the Disney boys. The Disney boys were not happy. That's what they call them, yeah. And they said, you're out. Disney is secretly controlled by like Pinocchio-esque unruly children. Sure. It's a bunch of newsies. We like it.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Some of them have turned into donkeys and some of them haven't, I think, Mason. Yeah. But, yeah, it's also people haven't been happy, like fans about how he's been running certain things. And I know there's been – it feels like they're nickel and diming people for the park stuff. And sometimes you'll buy tickets and passes that they don't – you can't use them.
Starting point is 00:06:14 It's like, no, you missed out, but we have your money. We don't know because we are many continents away. But apparently – I read recently that Chapek is using the Disney parks to fund the streaming. Yeah, okay. Which initially sounds insane, but then you go, okay, well, there are people who go, thousands of people go to these parks every day, tens of thousands, hundreds, I don't know. Millions. Millions or billions of people go to these parks every day.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And decades ago, the Disney parks apparently, you bought a ticket and you went in, you could just do anything you wanted in any given day, but now it's like everything costs money in there. And then you've got to pay to move faster, but maybe you can pay to go even faster. People who haven't already seen it, and it's got a trillion, million, maybe a billion views, the Defunctland YouTube channel. Yeah, I still haven't watched it.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It's in my thing because it's like four hours long. It has a video on FastPass and how they built a system where you could pay extra to jump lines but then everybody started using that so there's another system built on top of that and etc and there's you know various apps that sometimes work and don't work it is and you're like in an online queue to line up for certain yeah and look i plan to go in a few years and i don't know whether i'll do like this and there there's things like the Star Wars Hotel, which is like, why is this so expensive and doesn't look that good as well?
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah. Like it looks kind of cheap. And to go, like for me, it'd be like, well, if I'm flying across the world with my son or maybe all my family, depending who's going. Maybe we'll draw straws. Yeah, maybe. Like I don't want to, I'd have to pay an enormous amount of money just to ensure that I could go.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Because I'm not going there to not go. Yeah. Which is like insane to me that you'd have to do that. The idea that you could spend $10,000 and potentially go over there and show up at 8am or whenever the park opens and not get a chance to do anything. Yeah. And then you have to come home again is astounding. Yeah. That's in terms of like.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And I know there are ways around it, like you mentioned, but it's just paying more money. Yeah. And it seems really complicated. What's what would be worse, in your opinion? Oh, nuclear holocaust. Definitely, Mason. All right. That would probably be the worst thing.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah. I reckon maybe racism. That would be bad. I don't like that either. OK. But if you had to pick between one of those two which would you rather have racism or nuclear apocalypse i didn't give you you've given me your own options here james you've made your bed you gotta live in it basically i'm gonna say i don't like both huh yeah that's what i'm gonna say wow the cowards way up but speaking of what would you rather have? You fly over to America with one or both of your children
Starting point is 00:08:47 and you don't know the deal with Disney and you just show up expecting it to be a good day and it's a disaster or you do a bunch of research on the internet, which people can do now, and you know it's going to be a disaster and you – Yeah, I want to know what I'm walking into. Yeah, just so I could word my kids up to be like, bear in mind um whoever's running this people don't like i think and i don't know what's gonna happen because you'd also have to go and i'm also not like rich enough to be like get a private kardashian tour where you go behind the scenes and they
Starting point is 00:09:19 take it all the ride i'm not as rich as the Kardashian-Mason. Not yet. Not unless everybody signs up to BigSandwich.co for 40 years each. It's true. But it's the worst advertising campaign in the world in the sense that everybody has access to all this data and everybody knows that this is going to happen. And I'm sure there are plenty of people around the world who are just like, I'd rather not. I'd rather not. Thank you. And there's options. You go to world who are just like, I'd rather not. I'd rather not, thank you. And there's options.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You go to Universal. You go to Hollywood on the Gold Coast. You go to Warner Brothers Movie World in Queensland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You go to Wobby's World. You go to Wobby's World, which isn't there anymore, I think, maybe. You go to Pombo Mart.
Starting point is 00:09:57 A reference that nobody gets but I still like. You go to Pipeworks. You go to Pipeworks. Another reference. You go to Science Works. That's pretty good actually. Scienceworks is genuinely good. Now Museum also, absolute cracker.
Starting point is 00:10:08 You go to that bit that's sort of near the airport where you can watch the planes land and take off. No, I don't want that. Huh. No. Maybe there's an ice cream van there. Get ice cream here. It's true.
Starting point is 00:10:17 It's true. Where was I going with this? Who knows? It's the worst. I think you were thinking of another obscure thing. I absolutely was. Franklin's Supermarkets. Not around anymore. They're gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Because I don't have kids, but you have kids. But imagine telling, imagine if you were like, listen, my child. Yeah. What looks like your favorite, what looks like is going to be your favorite thing in the park? We will try to get to that. Yeah, exactly. And then there's still no guarantees. Yeah, exactly. Crazy. Yeah. so there you go. That's fun. People should watch that. People should also watch this.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Speaking of Defunctland, Defunctland did a video this week on the Disney Channel, like, musical sting. Oh, and the four notes that came from. Yeah, isn't that super long as well? Yeah, this investigative report on, like, who created this song ultimately. And there's a second video that also came out this week. It's an H. Bomer guy video about.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I've got so many videos that I haven't watched. There's a sound apparently in Roblox, like an oof noise. Yeah. And it's a deep dive into the creation of that sound and it goes places you wouldn't expect. It's crazy. It's good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Okay. You'll be like, what? How does this keep happening? You'll say to yourself. That's what I'll keep saying? Yeah. Okay. You'll be like, what? How does this keep happening? You'll say to yourself. That's what I'll keep saying? Yeah. Great. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I'll check it out. Great. Anyways, so apparently on his way out, Bob Chapek is going to get, first of all, he'll sign a thing which will say, hey, shut up. And the other thing is that he'll get- A hey, shut up form. Yeah. He'll also get $22 million.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So apparently, as mentioned, people don't like his handling of the parks, the streaming services, the movies and what's kind of promoted, which I'm going to talk about all this more in detail. Animation he doesn't like. Doesn't like animation, which I'll talk about. Cartoons are just for kids. Also different deals that he's kind of done with stars. Now that I'm the head of Disney,
Starting point is 00:11:58 I don't think we should do any of this animation stuff. I don't think it's for anyone really. But you see that in the marketing. We'll talk about it. And do you remember things likelett johansson got screwed on that deal for black widow because they put it to streaming yeah right and he just kind of like tried to just do it and then that it cost him a lot of money because you know she took him a quarter while he was going to take him a court and there was a settlement and whatever so there's a lot of things that have been happening that people are like why are you doing this yeah anyways one of the things is from
Starting point is 00:12:23 uh it's from the Wall Street Journal, where apparently he's been hiding the Disney Plus. So this is from the Wall Street Journal. It's about Disney Plus. I do just as many of these as you do, but for whatever reason, you let them slide and I don't. Well, it depends on the week, I guess. It depends, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:42 So originals like- Disney Plus is very funny, though. I don't know why. Great. Originals like The Mysterious Benedict Society and the new Doogie MD show or whatever. Oh, yes. They were aired first on other networks such as the Disney Channel,
Starting point is 00:12:54 so their production and marketing budget wouldn't be counted against Disney Plus. And it seems like he's just been going all in on Disney Plus for everything, as you mentioned, using the money from the parks potentially to fund it as well and it's probably running at a loss because they can afford to at this point to a certain extent the other thing that you mentioned he said that adults don't watch disney animated efforts which is just not true and it's like for me how would you know yeah well that yeah i'd have the data on it i assume and it would probably say the opposite of that but i think there is a there is a disney animation problem and the strange world for example just came out and i think it made like 19 million in its first in its first weekend but a lot of people are like i didn't know that was out and whatever and i've
Starting point is 00:13:33 seen it but the only reason i've seen it is because i got an email that said hey do you want to see this and here's an extra ticket and i took my son yeah that's the only reason i know that that came out so if we get everybody on the media industry list. For a free ticket of the popcorn, yeah. Then it'll still make $19 million, but more people will see it. Yeah, that's it. So the marketing is terrible. And I think also they need to, like, what distinguishes a Disney movie? What makes it special from what they're doing at, like,
Starting point is 00:14:01 the new Spider-Verse movie? I know that's coming, and it looks like it's something exciting and new and fresh in the animation style. Even the new Puss in Boots movie, which is apparently amazing, like it looks different than all the old ones. Like what are you specifically doing to highlight what's unique about this? DreamWorks, of course, has the signature DreamWorks face. What does Disney have?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Do they have a Disney face? We can quickly talk about that new DreamWorks intro. You can see people getting very upset about it where quickly talk about that new DreamWorks intro. Yeah, sure. You can see people getting very upset about it, where it shows all the different DreamWorks movies. Where was Shark Tale, Mason? Great question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I don't care, honestly. Right. I know it's kind of like tacky to be like, here's Kung Fu Panda and Shrek's waving and whatever. Well, apparently they're swappable. All these characters are hot swappable. Of course they are. So if they're doing a movie,
Starting point is 00:14:42 if this intro is in front of a movie that doesn't play well with the boss baby, they'll cut the boss baby out. Or maybe they'll leave the boss baby in to be like, well, you're watching this, you're watching Shark Tale 5, but just know there's a whole world of boss baby out there for you. My son's been watching a bit of the boss baby. The TV series?
Starting point is 00:15:01 It's that and the movie. And I caught like 10 minutes of it but not in a row. And I'm just like, what the fuck is this? Well, maybe you should have watched that 10 minutes in a row. It's like there's a secret baby organisation but also he's a real baby sometimes. Isn't he a man that was turned into a baby? I don't know, Mason.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And sometimes he's Alec Baldwin but then sometimes he'll snap out of it and he's a regular baby. So then I'm like, so. Or maybe he'll snap into it. Yeah. So that's what I mean. Like, so when Alec Baldwin becomes the boss baby permanently, does he override the personality of an actual baby?
Starting point is 00:15:37 Anyway, I should watch it because I don't know what was happening at all. That's how they get you. But yeah, I mean, look at, like, Pixar, for example. It used to be a thing where people were like, let's see the new Pixar and whatever. And I think they'll run a good thing with, like, Tangled, Frozen, Moana. These are movies that people saw and knew about and they had, like, stars and people recognising them.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That's what you want. You want things that people see and know about. They go, we know this. And Strange World I imagine. What is it? Like, what is it? What do you think it is? It's a vague.
Starting point is 00:16:07 It is. It's a vague. Is it like Lost in Space? No. Huh. Sort of. Okay. But also, I think a lot of people might even look at the bus ad or whatever that has Strange
Starting point is 00:16:16 World on it or the billboard or something and go, that'll be on Disney Plus soon, I guess. Exactly. Is it a Disney Plus show? I don't know, I guess. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And like, it's a disney exactly is it a disney show i don't know i guess yeah exactly yeah and like it's more it's got it's a bit of it's a bit inner space it's a bit like journey to the center of the earth it's it's like and i've seen it as mentioned and it's fine like it's all right and i know a lot of people will probably like it tanked because it's woke or whatever i'm sure no i mean i'm sure there is a there is there is like a sliver of people who won't see it because there's two boys who like each other. It's barely anything. Yeah, right. But nobody knows what it is, and that's a massive problem. Or if you do know and you're just like, I'll see it in a month.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Who cares? Yeah. I don't need to see this. Why would I need to see this in cinemas? Yeah. Right now I'm busy in a line at Disney World trying to get in. I've spent a week here trying to get my son into this. I'm pretty confident I'm just going in a circle.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I'm going to mark the floor. Hey, wait, they're putting a sign up that says go in a circle land. I'm being charged $40 for this. The other thing is I saw this via Comic Book Resources. There was a November Q4 earnings call where Bob Chapek reportedly tried to paint an encouraging picture of Disney's finances, relaying that the company made a record $28 billion in profit despite the fact that they weren't profitable. So when the numbers did come out, then the – So he lied.
Starting point is 00:17:33 He lied. I'm sure there was some clever accounting – oh, he just lied. So then the stock prices dropped when they came out. You put a little dot in between. That's $2.8 billion. You've taken the came out. You put a little dot in between. That's $2.8 billion. You've taken the dot out. The other thing is, in terms of the things that Bob Iger did, he rescued Disney in so many ways.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And there's a bunch of stuff that I don't agree that he did, but in terms of, like, being a CEO, he's clearly one of the best. Right. Like, he got... Not for consumers, but for... No, I didn't't say i would say both yeah i guess sorry yeah yeah exactly your dad you know him oh yeah yeah yeah it's not a joke it's real yeah but um like there was this whole pixar deal where they had a few you know they
Starting point is 00:18:18 they were contracted to a few movies under disney and then they were free to do their own thing and and then they the contract kind of extended and whatever. And then he just came in and went, we're just buying it. Yeah, right. And now they're locked in. He bought Marvel, which is just the biggest franchise in the world. Also because of Disney as well. That's true.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Like they'd only got a few movies in. And I think they still would have done very well like independently. But you can't argue that Disney like haven't assisted in that. He bought Lucasfilm, which is Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Willow, probably Howard the Duck. Probably Kathleen Kennedy tried to stop him or help him to acquire Star Wars, whichever one would make you the most mad. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:57 20th Century Fox also, and we're kind of seeing that kind of unfold at the moment. And apparently he said in a statement that he wants to put decisions back in the hands of creatives, which I know sounds like a vague kind of. It does, doesn't it? But I think it's true because I think he'd let people make the things that they want to make. He let Kevin Feige just run Marvel.
Starting point is 00:19:15 He let Kathleen Kennedy, even though some people don't like it, he let her run Star Wars, you know, all of these things. Yeah, right. So this is also via the John Campion show on YouTube, Mason. Okay. Said other people have heard this as well, that the lack of movies coming out of Star Wars, you know, all of these things. So this is also via the John Campion show on YouTube, Mason. Said other people have heard this as well, that the lack of movies coming out of Star Wars was actually a Chapek directive. So Chapek directed that there weren't going to be any
Starting point is 00:19:34 movies coming out right now. I said the same thing twice there, but that is the quote. You rephrased it though and I think that's important. I didn't, I mean, I didn't, I was just reading what was said. Somebody rephrased it and you took advantage of that. You took that to the limit, which I respect. Yeah. So, you know, there hasn't been Star Wars movies in three years
Starting point is 00:19:52 and there doesn't seem to be one anywhere at the moment. That's true. It's all streaming. But he also said. But they're an all heck of a show. I agree. He also said that apparently the return of Bog Iger. Bog Iger.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Bog Iger. Solidify. Solidify. You can say that to him at the dinner table. That's true. Hey, look, it's Bog Iger. Have a seat, Bog. You can say that to him.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Let's watch some Disney Plus, Bog. Because Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Iger are close, that secures her position because she's like an ally of him and vice versa. Right, okay. Now it's all office politics. But the other thing is apparently, and I don't know whether this is true, Kathleen Kennedy is, I think she's contracted until 2025,
Starting point is 00:20:36 and it's the same thing John Campion said, that that would probably be it for her. She'd probably step away. But it's also possible, obviously, between now and then, and then everybody would be right that Kathleen Kennedy did leave. Yeah. I mean, but I wouldn't be surprised if she left either because it's been 10 years now.
Starting point is 00:20:51 It's been 10 years, yeah. So, like, at any point that she leaves. She's probably earning $50,000 a year. At least. So why do you retire now? Come on. Yeah, that's it. You've got all the money you'd ever need.
Starting point is 00:21:01 So I think, yeah, she's probably going to step aside in the next few years. And I think people will claim it as a victory, but I just think it just ran its course, honestly. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Also, you'll love this, Mason. Oh.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So this is all part of this, but this is in One Company Buys Another Company News. Love it. This is via the rap. So Inspired... We need a better name for that. I said Inspired, but go on. Inspired Man. I like it. One Company Buys Another Company News. I think thatider, but go on. Inspired Man. I like it.
Starting point is 00:21:25 One company buys another company new. So I think that's- Okay, that is pretty good, yeah. So insider speculation is that all this is being done. Bob Iger is being brought back. I think we should call it mergers and whackquisitions on account of some of these mergers are quite whack. I think it's cool when one company buys another company.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Oh, fine. Well. So I will not, I could not support you on this basis. Okay. I can't veto it, but I will not support you. That's all right. So that the idea is to get the company looking and performing well again so they can sell Disney to Apple.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Wait. Say the whole thing again. They'll get the company running. Which company? I forgot. Disney. Okay. Get it all running. Which company? Disney i forgot disney okay get it all running
Starting point is 00:22:05 and then just which company disney yes and then sell disney all of it oh to apple does apple want disney maybe yeah so disney including everything so including star wars and all the things we've just said and we'll own the parks and yep everything literally everything well apple is a bigger company than dis, but like quite a lot. That's incredible. Yeah. So that's maybe what's happening. The quote here from an insider.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Who is it? I don't know. Is it me? Maybe. Maybe. It's not me. This is the pinnacle deal for the ultimate deal maker. I think you'd welcome it.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He'd be the last CEO of Disney, which is true. Oh, you think that would be his? I don't know. He'd be like, okay, this is my legacy. I sold this thing to another thing. I can't wait, Mason, until there's no more cafes, there's no more places where you might go to a movie, there's no more places where you might get your dog washed.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That's all one grey building that you visit. That's terrific. It's just one company. Do you visit it or do you live in it? You might live in it. You live there and you work there. You live there and you work there and you get paid in Apple script and that's used to pay.
Starting point is 00:23:09 There's a Walmart in there. Do they own Walmart? Probably, yeah. Maybe Walmart buys Apple. Yeah, okay. Because that would be a good product to be in a Walmart, all your Apple products. I agree.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Your Iron Man branded iMacs or whatever, you know? Yeah. That would be good stuff. I agree. So that's where we're heading, one big company. Can't wait to see which one it is. That's right. It's going to be really exciting. I agree. So that's where we're heading, one big company. Can't wait to see which one it is. That's right. It's going to be really exciting.
Starting point is 00:23:27 So there you go. That's what's going on with Disney at the moment. Wow. Big breaking news, Mason. Here's some unsubstantiated. I've got two bits of news, James. Wow. I don't know if you're ready for this.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But here's one piece of unsubstantiated news. The villain of the Thunderbolts movie will either be Hyperion or the Sentry. So it's Superman. Yeah, yeah. Depending on the rumor you've heard. This is from Daniel RPK. I don't know if that's – Yeah, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yeah, we've talked about him before. He's pretty solid, yeah. Okay, yeah. So the Thunderbolts movie, which we've established, is going to be a bunch of brawlers and ghosts. Yeah. They're doing the Suicide Squad takes down Superman. Exactly, yeah, yeah. So it's either going to be the sentry who is a a marvel comics character who was
Starting point is 00:24:10 sort of he was created sort of relatively more in in the relative modern day but the the the imagined backstory is that he he's always existed or he's existed since you know the dawn of the fantastic four and spider-man and the hulk all those characters, but everybody forgot who he was. Why? For plot reasons, James. Oh, yeah. It was a big machine. Because he said, don't look at me.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, exactly. I'll hit you. Nobody look at me, I'll hit you. So there's that. A character that has – It's very unusual to have like a very, very super-powered Superman-type character. They exist just to be like there's a Superman in Marvel.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah. Because in DC there's like 15man in marvel yeah because in dc there's like 15 people who are as strong as superman at the very least that's true yeah but yeah like sentry is of that sort of power level of throw somebody into space yeah kind of kind of power level he's that kind of superman level um he's a character who's not really been he first uh came into being as sort of in a sort of a limited series and his backstory has been sort of altered over the years and he's been on various teams, but I'm not sure if they've ever really found a good way to use this character.
Starting point is 00:25:15 So maybe they'll just be like, he's more of a Superman. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, or the other alternative is Hyperion, who again is another. He's from the Squadron Supreme. He's Superman as well, isn't he? He's also Superman. Exactly, yeah. Which one's sometimes a villain? Or are they both sometimes a villain? They're both sometimes a villain.
Starting point is 00:25:32 So the Sentry was on the Dark Avengers when all the real Avengers went on the run. The Davengers? The Davengers, that's right. He was just on there. He said, I'll do it. I'll do this. Because he is, without getting too much, some would say he's almost as much of a villain as he is a hero in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Okay. But Hyperion is from the Squadron Supreme, which is Marvel's sort of parody of the Justice League. Right. So imagine if Marvel did a Superman character better than Superman before DC managed it. Okay. Absolutely. I mean, I think now with James Gunn in charge of things, a Superman character better than Superman before DC managed it. Okay. In the modern era. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah. I mean, I think now with James Gunn, you know, in charge of things, I think that could very well, you know, change. I think DC could be very interesting. I mean, like, wow, look at this amazing take I'm going to make. But just the fact that they've got somebody like that making decisions. Yeah. It's not like a bulletproof, you know, like who knows,
Starting point is 00:26:24 it could be terrible, but it'd be nice to get some really solid, like a bunchproof you know like it could who knows it could be terrible but it'd be nice to get some really solid like a bunch of really good dc stuff in a row so marvel also has to improve it's good when other companies do well i want it's good when disney is going to be purchased by apple well that was other people said that disney could buy warner brothers and oh yeah who knows i don't want that though either okay yeah because they're all they'll be in the same universe and they'll make them kiss and i'm that i guess that i like but I don't want that, though, either. Okay. Yeah. Because they'll all be in the same universe and they'll make him kiss. And I guess that I like, but I don't know. Other than that, anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Sorry, you were saying. I was going to say, I think, how do you feel about that as the Suicide Squad versus, the Marvel version of the Suicide Squad versus Superman? Yeah, I like that. I think it's fun. Yeah, right. You know, since this announcement or this rumor was floated, a lot of people have been like, oh, what are they going to find?
Starting point is 00:27:09 This is going to be a short fight. He's going to bloody kill them all, you know, whatever. Yeah, but the point is you write it so that doesn't happen. You write it so it doesn't happen, see? That's what I would do. A little advice for aspiring filmmakers out there. If they're like, well, this would be a very short interaction, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Or this movie doesn't sound very long. Pipe down, Favreau. Yeah. Do the thing that we said. Put some dialogue in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe they visit a restaurant together and they're like, this team isn't working out or whatever,
Starting point is 00:27:32 but then they have to work together. Then they have to work together, yeah. Yeah, maybe they've got a ray that they could use that could shut him down for a bit. Yes. You know, stuff like that. Or they could be like, remember who you are, you know? And he does.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And then they hit him with a crowbar. Clang, you know? Right in the back And then they hit him with a crowbar. Clang, you know? Right in the back of the head. That's really. Yeah. I'm human again. For the first time. Where's my wife?
Starting point is 00:27:53 I miss my wife. Clang. Yeah. Dead. And then they hit him with a garbage truck. Yeah, that's really good. Yeah. Really good stuff, Mason.
Starting point is 00:28:02 What's your second bit of news? My second bit of news, and it's nearly a second bit my second bit of news and it's it's nearly a week old this this bit of news but i think it's worth talking about quentin tarantino look i've written here in my notes uh quentin tarantino says some quentin tarantino stuff because he's selling a book yeah because he's selling a book he's got his book about movie making whatever it is yeah uh quentin tino believes the marvelization of Hollywood killed the movie stars. You said Quentin Tino. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Sorry, go on. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:28:28 That's how you do it, James. You have a bit of confidence in yourself and you just go, nah. Tarantino went on Tom Segura's podcast, Two Bears, One Cave. The whole thing, yeah. And Tarantino mourned the idea that there are no real movie stars thanks to the marvelisation of Hollywood. So the quote is, part of the Marvelisation of Hollywood is,
Starting point is 00:28:48 I'm not going to do the voice, but I could. Okay. You have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters, but they're not movie stars, right? Tarantino asks. Captain America is the star. Or Thor is the star.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I mean, I'm not the first person to say that. I think that's been said a zillion times. Anthony Mackie said it a few years ago. He did. He said... When he was doing Marvel movies, by the star. I mean, I'm not the first person to say that. I think that's been said a zillion times. Anthony Mackie said it a few years ago. He did. He said... When he was doing Marvel movies, by the way. Yeah, he said, you are making movies now for 16-year-old boys in China. That's what he said, specifically. But, um,
Starting point is 00:29:16 I... How do you feel about this statement? Before we get into the backlash from it. Sure, yeah. I feel like he is sort of right and he's sort of wrong. There's absolutely an element of truth to that where IP is the star of something. But also, and speaking of Anthony Mackie, I'm excited to see Anthony Mackie as Sam Wilson Captain America in the next Captain America.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah. But. You don't want to see that one where he's a robot and it's a Netflix movie or whatever? He's a robot soldier? Maybe I already did say that. Maybe you did. There's a bit where he's got transparent skin and the guy's like,
Starting point is 00:29:47 you're a robot, and he's like, oh, I am a robot. I haven't said that. I also didn't say that. But if Marvel said, hey, we're bringing back Steve Rogers, Captain America, and it's not going to be Chris Evans, it's going to be somebody else, I'd be like, oh, I don't know about that. Yeah, I guess so. So it's a combination.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah, so Captain America is the iconic character, but I think Chris Evans, at least for the now and the foreseeable future, knocked that character out of the park so well that I think I would not be that interested in seeing another Captain America movie without him. No, and I think they know that also. I think if Chris Evans was an action star in the 80s,
Starting point is 00:30:23 I think he probably would be on that level. I think there are exceptions to this rule. Maybe not one of the people who spoke out, which we will talk to. But Chris Evans, I think, is a movie star outside of Captain America. I think Chris Hemsworth, even though his movies don't do incredibly well necessarily outside of Marvel,
Starting point is 00:30:43 I think he is a movie star. Brie Larson is a movie star. But I also – and I feel like there's actors in the MCU which were stars which then they brought in, like Harrison Ford, for example, for joining. But I think there's also people that are in the MCU and it's just like this is, for now at least, this is who they are. Yeah, right. And I also think it's less to do with the Marvelisation.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I mean, it is partly to do that. And when he says Marvel, he means like, it doesn't just mean specifically, well, yeah, specifically Marvel, but also just the idea of this kind of. The franchise. Yeah, like your Star Wars and DC and whatever. But like I feel also it's part of, it's the idea behind, the reason Chris Evans would have been a huge star in the 80s
Starting point is 00:31:21 is because your options were go see him at the movies or watch him on TV when the movie went to TV. But now there are so many options. I'm, you know, a Schwarzenegger or a Stallone or something like that back in the 80s, you would see everything they did because it was just at the movies. Whereas I'm not following everything Chris Evans does because some of it is at the movies and some of it is defending Jacob.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Defending Jacob, which I would have to buy another streaming service. It's good. I know, but I'm not. Just wait until Disney and Apple merge and then you'll have it. Then I'll have it. That's true. Well, I might have it. Probably have to purchase an additional package.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah, you're right. I got that email this week from Disney+. They're like, we're doubling the prices basically. And you're an idiot. I'm an idiot. You specifically. So rude, but what are you going to do? Well, exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Yeah. But, yeah, I think the marbleization is true, but it's also there are so many more options now and you just can't get to everything, you know? Yeah. You're right. But there was backlash. I was trying to bring it up, but I think you have it there.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I'll find it. Yeah. There was a little there was backlash. I was trying to bring it up, but I think you have it there. I'll find it. Yeah. There was a little bit of backlash. And look, let me preface this by saying that it's probably, we think it's all like Sunshine and Rose as being a Marvel star. I think a lot of that would be awful. I will say that's the thing. Like if you're a Marvel star, you are under the pump all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Like you've always got to be fit, like super fit, just in case they need you for a cameo. Or somebody just takes a photo of you at the beach. Well, exactly. Because they'll get the photo of you where you're ripped in the movie and you're dehydrated and they'll be like, now you're fat. Exactly. This guy's fat now.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Chris Fatsworth, they'd say. Fats Fatsworth. Fats Fatsworth. You know, yeah. Fat Chris Evans, they'd say, fat's fat's worth. Fat's fat's fat's worth. You know, yeah. Fat Chris Evans, they'd say. Yeah. Et cetera. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:11 You're probably constantly, like, going in and doing meetings with Marvel. Yeah. Where they're like, oh, what's the next step for this character? Blah, blah, blah kind of thing. You're doing charity stuff. You're visiting sick kids in a hospital. Yeah. You're doing all, what a bloody chore.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You know what I mean? Yeah. All that sort of stuff. You're visiting sick kids in a hospital. You're doing all – what a bloody chore, you know what I mean? Yeah. All that sort of stuff. And you're also always on in the sense that like even when you're doing – even like if you're doing interviews for a new project that has nothing to do with Marvel,
Starting point is 00:33:33 people will be asking you Marvel questions. 100%. And every day – Even if you've quit. Yes. And every day you'd just be living your life and a little kid would come up to you and be like, excuse me, would you win in a fighting – Are you Fats Fatsworth?
Starting point is 00:33:43 Are you Fats Fatsworth? And would you win in a fight against Black Widow? And you'd have to be like, oh, what does this kid want? I'd kill Black Widow. That's right. I'd snap her neck. Yeah, no, you're right. I'd push her off that cliff.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah, but I think they're being pretty clever in their casting. As of yet, there's probably an exception I'm not thinking of. There's nobody who's done something really outrageous as a Marvel star yet. I just want to preface that by saying because someone will come back in a few years where something will happen. But I feel like with DC there's been a number of actors where you're like, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:19 But Simu Liu of the movie Shang-Chi, the title role, he is in fact Shang-Chi. It was a good one. It was a good one. It was a good one. It was good fun. I still think it peaked at the bus fight. Yeah, there was a bit at the end when they fought in a big grey pit and I didn't really like that too much.
Starting point is 00:34:33 But he tweeted, if the only gatekeepers to movie stardom came from Tarantino and Scorsese, I would never have had the opportunity to lead a $400 million plus movie. I'm in awe of their filmmaking genius. They are transcendent auteurs, but they don't get to point their nose at me or anyone. I'm in awe of their filmmaking genius. They are transcendent auteurs, but they don't get to point their nose at me or anyone. I don't know what that means. Second tweet, no movie studio is or ever will be perfect,
Starting point is 00:34:52 but I'm proud to work with one that has made sustained efforts to improve diversity on screen by creating heroes that empower and inspire people of all communities everywhere. I love the Golden Age too, but it was white as hell. That's true. Yeah, it's not incorrect. But I don't think it was a shot at him in particular. And I think also like, and for now, I would say that he's not,
Starting point is 00:35:11 this sounds like an insult, and I guess it is, but he's not like a movie star yet. That's what he's known for, for now. Right, right. And I don't think it was a shot at him in particular either, to be like, you're not a real movie star. But I think they're a level, like he's not Tom Cruise, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And what I think is interesting about this particular statement is because Scorsese and Tarantino are maybe the two worst people to like level this accusation at. Like whatever you think, like, okay, Scorsese is just a nice little old man, as far as I can tell. And, you know, Tarantino has had his problems. Absolutely. He said the N-word too many times on screen than a white man should, which is zero times.
Starting point is 00:35:52 You should say it zero times. And maybe he tried to get Uma Thurman killed that time. Maybe he did. Maybe he did that. But a lot of people don't know this about Tarantino, but he loves movies. But also a second thing that maybe fewer people know about Tarantino. Is that he hates movies. He hates movies. But also a second thing that maybe fewer people know about Tarantino. Is that he hates movies.
Starting point is 00:36:05 He hates movies secretly. In the 90s he saw a bunch of Hong Kong movies, like contemporary movies, that he loved so much that he went to Miramax, which is his distributor at the time, and he set up a separate company called Rolling Thunder Films, which was exclusively for finding Hong Kong movies in like Asian cinema and getting it a wider distribution in North America.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And one of the movies that he saw, which he loved so much that apparently he cried. It was Shang-Chi. Yeah, that's right. Well, it was a movie called Chungking Express and one of the stars of that movie is Tony Leung who is in Shang-Chi. He's the Mandarin in Shang-Chi.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So that's a – look, there's no guarantee that if Tarantino didn't do that, that Tony Leung wouldn't have been in this anyway. Oh, of course. Yeah. But, you know. Certainly would have helped. It's interesting that he's in the middle of that Venn diagram. I think also – and again, like you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:36:57 of course Tarantino has had his problems because he tried to kill Uma Thurman that time. Allegedly. Allegedly and all these other things. But if you look at like a lot of the casting, like he put Pam Grier in the lead of a movie. Yeah, yeah. Like straight after Pulp Fiction.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Because he thought she had like a raw deal in Hollywood. Yeah, exactly. She just did those black quotation movies. I think, you know, I think they've both done like, I can't remember the name of the movie, but didn't Scorsese unearth some bizarre like thought long gone foreign film? Oh, he's done that.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah, I mean he has the World Cinema Project, which has sort of restored foreign films and tries to get them out to a wider audience. But in the 90s also he had a movie called Kundun, which was it's about the Dalai Lama in like the one from like the 50s, like the 30s, 50s era. Yeah. And it's about Tibet and it has an all Tibetan cast
Starting point is 00:37:44 and he made it for Disney. But then who was the CEO of Disney in the 30s, 50s era. Yeah. And it's about Tibet and it has an all-Tibetan cast and he made it for Disney. But then who was the CEO of Disney and the Knights? Michael Eisner. Michael Eisner didn't like the movie and he wanted to open up a Disneyland in China. So he sent Henry Kissinger in to talk to China, like the Henry Kissinger, former Secretary of State, still alive somehow.
Starting point is 00:38:04 He dropped his glasses in the toilet that time. He dropped his glasses in the toilet. He dropped his glasses in the toilet that time. Look it up. So he sent him in to negotiate with China and China were basically like, we don't like this because it shows like Chinese atrocities towards Tibetans. And so Kissinger came back and was like, you should bury this. And so they just didn't advertise it and what have you, and it just sank.
Starting point is 00:38:28 You can watch it. You can't watch it on Disney+. No way, really? Yeah, you can't watch it on Disney+. You can watch it on Foxtel in Australia. It's on Foxtel now. You're not going to. I will download the Foxtel app, Mason.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I've seen that, oddly. I saw it years ago. Foxtel app. No, I've never seen that. What did you say? It must have been on the telly. You didn't think of Seven News in Tibet with Brad Lippert? No, but that was slightly earlier and apparently China didn't like that either.
Starting point is 00:38:49 They didn't like that one either. Yeah, so there you go. But anyway. Wow, there's a lot going on there. A lot going on. But yeah, I think though he's right in terms of like Disney has, like they've done some casting and they have made strides in movies for representation.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I think it's also a very calculated equation of like so will get a certain number of people in, et cetera, and so forth. I think that is definitely a factor. But look, Disney, you know, every time they release a new movie, they have the first openly gay character or whatever, and that cannot be taken away from them. Anyway, Mason, I think both sides. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:20 You know what I mean? Yeah. A lot of people, like they get hung up on one side or the other, but I see both sides, and that makes me above everything else. I can take a step back and go, can everyone chill out? That's just like your stance on nuclear holocaust versus racism. You can see both sides. No, I see them, but they're both bad, though.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The eclair got a little bit here as well. Okay, right. Yeah, you got it. Good stuff. Hell yeah. All right. Mason's eating a chocolate eclair, everybody. I, you got it. Good stuff. Hell yeah. All right. Mason's eating a chocolate eclair
Starting point is 00:39:46 everybody. I'm eating a chocolate eclair. That's true. All right. But I mean, Simu Liu is right in that Hollywood is pretty white. Completely.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah, yeah. I see both sides. I know you do. Anyways, Blade has a new director, Mason. Oh, who is it? So after Basim Tariq's departure because everything was just
Starting point is 00:40:02 not moving forward, I blame the former Disney CEO. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's perfect. You can blame anything on him now. Just everything on him. Yeah, this was Chapek. Sorry, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:11 It was. Jan de Marge is going to be directing it. Yeah, I know there's nothing in the vending machine, but that was Chapek. He didn't fill it up. That was his job. He liked to do it. He said he was a man of the people. He filled it up.
Starting point is 00:40:22 He filled up the vending machine. So Jan de Marge, he most famously worked on a number of things, but he was one of the directors who worked on Lovecraft Country. So I think that's as good as you're going to get, especially this late in the day as well. So let's see what he does. That's plenty spooky. Hopefully.
Starting point is 00:40:37 That would be really cool because I do want to see the movie Blade, but I also want a good director for Blade. I feel like this is like a good direction. You don't want to see a bad version of Blade? I've seen a bad version of Blade. It's Blade 3, and I thought it was all right. That's great, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Okay, last bit of news, Mason. Okay. Avatar, the new Avatar, Avatar 2. By the way, we're doing a James Cameron-a-thon, aren't we, Mason? You've got some more eclair here, Mason. I'm leaving it. Yeah, okay, you leave it. That's going to distract me, and I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:41:04 It looks like a good eclair. That's really good more eclair here, Mason. I'm leaving it. Okay, you leave it. It's going to distract me and I don't like that. It looks like a good eclair. That's really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, apparently New Avatar has a Oh, yeah. We're doing a James Cameron-a-thon. This week it's The Abyss. Fascinating story where he tried to kill a bunch of people on that. Speaking of directors killing people. Allegedly, accidentally.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah, yeah. That'll be Thursday. I know people know that, but we've moved Cameron and coverage to Thursday. It's just been easier on the edit. Avatar 2 is going to cost somewhere between $350 to $400 million. That is outside of the marketing. Yeah, right. And did James Cameron said something along the lines of, this better do good or my goose is cooked?
Starting point is 00:41:39 He did. This is via GQ. James Cameron said this. Very fucking expensive. The worst business case in movie history. To be profitable, it has to be the third or fourth biggest movie of all time. That's your threshold.
Starting point is 00:41:50 That's your break even. Do you think GQ is short for James Cameron? James Cram-Cram-Win? Yeah, I do actually. Yeah, James Cram-Win. Magazine. Yes. And one of the things that's going to help it with this is that it seems
Starting point is 00:42:05 at this point to have secured a release in China. Okay. Which is going to help immensely. I think they like Avatar in China. I can't remember. I'm watching it at the moment for Carrier on the Garbage and I'm just. And every second there you're like, does China like this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Those are all my notes. Does China like this big flying snake? Do I like it? Do you like it? No. Not really. That's a shame. No, there's a lot of things I like it? Do you like it? No, not really. That's a shame. No, there's a lot of things I like about it. We'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:42:29 A lot of, all the Avatar discourse is going to sort of come to a point of perfect clarity. We've all been talking about it or not talking about it for 10 years. We're all going to finally get together and watch it and then go, yeah, and then go, huh, it isn't good. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about that. Again, I'm literally halfway watching it again on the rewatch
Starting point is 00:42:52 and I just kind of want to say a bunch of stuff. I want to save it for the video. But I feel like I could just, if you just like poked me, I'd just like start going. So I'm just going to stop. And we'll move on, Mason. All right. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors,
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Starting point is 00:44:04 and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Christmas has come early, everybody, and by that I mean Mason's going to say something. Huzzah! Christmas is here. What a delightful time for everyone. It's actually not here, everybody, and by that I mean Mason's going to say something. Huzzah! Christmas is here.
Starting point is 00:44:25 What a delightful time for everyone. It's actually not here, Mason, not just yet. But Christmas has come early, though, in a way. In what way? What are you doing? There was a Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special. Is it Christmas or not? It's not, but Christmas has come early, Mason.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So it's come early, but it's not here. No, it's not. That's what you're saying. It's not Christmas yet. Yeah, yeah. But what's happened? Is this that racism nuclear holocaust thing all over again? No, Mason.
Starting point is 00:44:49 You can't pick a side? I guess in a way it is. Interesting. But anyway, Christmas has come early, even though it's not Christmas yet. They released a Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special on Friday. That's true. It was directed by James Gunn. It's shorter than a movie, but longer than a short show.
Starting point is 00:45:04 That's very true. And what do you think the story was? Oh, okay. All right. So Christmas time is coming up. It's here. Yep. Is it here?
Starting point is 00:45:12 No. Interesting. But Christmas has come early. That is very true. Yeah. And Peter Quill's sad. Yeah, why is he sad? Because it's Christmas.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Can't have Christmas in space. No. Or can you? Yes. But then Drax and Mantis are like, what if we went and we went down to Earth and we got some very special Christmas stuff including a very special Christmas gift for Peter Quill.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Do we say what that is? No. I mean, it's in the trailer. Oh, okay, right. But maybe we won't just yet. Maybe we'll save it for spoilers if you haven't seen it. Anyway, that's the plot of the Christmas special. It is.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I thought it was nice. I also thought it was nice and fun. Yeah. And that's the extent of things I could really say, not spoilers. I like the little animated intro at the start. We get the return of some certain characters. Well, it was, as I understand it, it was intended to be an homage to the Star Wars, or at least in part, an homage to the Star Wars holiday special.
Starting point is 00:46:02 It doesn't feel like that at all. Right, okay. I mean, because, no. I mean, I understand what you're saying, but there is no element of this. I'll find the James Gunn quote on the tweeters. No, I get it. Yeah, but I think at least the animated part. So we see a little animated portion at the start of the show,
Starting point is 00:46:20 which is young Peter Quill, he's recently been abducted from Earth and brought into the Ravagers and he's attempting to explain Christmas and it doesn't go well. And he's like, bah humbug. Bah humbug, precisely. Yeah, Christmas has not come early. And then we cut to the modern day, the year 2025 or 2026 or whenever this is set now. Do you think a lot of people are like, oh, the Marvel timeline,
Starting point is 00:46:45 now it's set in like 2026. I think it's just. I don't care. No, I think. I think it's, what are we, 2024? I think we're a couple of years ahead at least. My assumption is that the last couple of Marvel movies have just gone, yeah, it's roughly now again.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Okay. Well, I know it had to jump ahead because of Endgame or whatever. Yeah. Because there was like five years in between. Yeah. So anyway, somebody is, Jesse AC has asked James Gunn, James, why did you go with animation for the flashbacks? I love them, but curious what drew you in that direction.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And James Gunn said, I wanted to do the Star Wars Holiday Special but done right. No offence, Mark Hamill. I like the idea of the music and the mixed media and the off-the-rails nature, but not necessarily the way everything was assembled. Yeah. Well, I guess, yeah, that makes sense because there is an animated section
Starting point is 00:47:24 of the Star Wars Holiday Special, isn't there, Mason? Introduces one Boba Fett. That's right. Which became a wonderful TV show. Eventually, down the line. Yeah, there's a few things that they kind of introduce or reintroduce to the universe.
Starting point is 00:47:37 They've set up some things for more like move some pieces in place for Guardians 3. I think you probably have to see this. I mean, if you're going to see Guardians 3, you're probably going to see this anyway. As an example, the Guardians have purchased, or the Guardians are at least, the Ravagers and the Guardians, maybe a combination, have purchased Nowhere,
Starting point is 00:47:56 which is the Celesteal head. But they also say from the Collector, who I guess is alive? Yeah, I think he is, yeah. Yeah, because all that thing was an illusion and whatever. Yeah, that's right. But he's alive and he's fine and whatever. Or maybe he died and came back. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I don't know what he's doing. There's a few characters like Cosmo the space dog is introduced, which I enjoyed quite a bit. Or reintroduced. That's true. There's buff squat Groot is in this. That's right. What do you think of that new design?
Starting point is 00:48:24 I think it's quite nice. Because the original one, the original adult Groot is in this. That's right. What do you think of that new design? I think it's quite nice, yeah. Because the original one, the original adult Groot was sort of taller and quite rangy. It's more like a powerlifter Groot. That's right, yeah. That's apparently all CGI for people who wonder. Maybe that's the – I saw someone say, like, that Groot suit is amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And then James Gunn was like, no, it's – You idiot. I tricked you. You've fallen for one of the classic James Gunn pranks. The classic James Gunn was like, no, it's... You idiot. I tricked you. You've fallen for one of the classic James Gunn pranks. The classic James Gunn Christmas pranks. He's known for it. He's known for it, Mason. But I think maybe it's intended to look like a guy in a suit, I think.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah, okay, I can understand that. Yeah, because obviously the other designs of Groot, you could never get somebody in any of that. Baby Groot, certainly. Baby Groot, maybe. Yeah, well, you're right, Mason. I think there is a selection of existing and original Christmas songs, which I quite like.
Starting point is 00:49:08 There's an opening Christmas song which a band sings who, from their understanding of what Christmas is, from like third-hand information, which I enjoyed quite a bit. My brother actually messaged me this and I completely agree. The one that I don't like. The one you don't like. And Kraglin's head fin is really gross. It's super gross, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Like the way the skin comes up over it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hate it. Well, I mean, I'm not sure if you have the budget there or if we can track that down. I don't think I do. I can't have a quick look. But what I thought was interesting about this is it is clearly
Starting point is 00:49:35 like a step down from a Marvel movie, obviously, in terms of. Well, there's like a location and then it's Earth, which is obviously cheaper to film in. Well, exactly. I thought that was interesting, you know, because James Gunn, as we know, started out in horror. Yeah. Sort of low budget kind of trauma and gross stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And speaking of gross stuff, and I think, you know, he's done a lot with a little here. Yeah. There's one. I think they just squeezed this in because this was a couple of days of shooting. Yeah, right. Well, the stuff in space at least.
Starting point is 00:50:06 They just squeezed it into the shoot. Oh, Guardians 3, right. Okay, yeah. But, yeah, so there's one, essentially one location, which is sort of a town square inside nowhere, and then there's just a couple of spaceships, like a Hollywood Boulevard on Earth, and then like a house, like clearly someone's house that they've just rented out in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:50:27 One of those houses is just, you know. They film pornography in Norway. Exactly. That's exactly what I'm thinking of, yes. Yeah, absolutely. I think that'll be it for non-spoilers though for me. But, I mean, it's on Disney+, folks. You don't have to go out there and get it if you already have Disney+.
Starting point is 00:50:42 It is free, as we know. It is free, absolutely. And we encourage you to watch those things for free, but legally, don't we, Mason? Yep. Let's do some spoiling. Anyway, best holiday special ever? Best holiday special ever.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah. Do you think it's the best Marvel special presentation ever? Better than Werewolf by Night? Yeah. Well, Mason, I see both sides. Oh, here we go. Because they're doing different things. One is horror.
Starting point is 00:51:03 There he is. And one has Kraglin's weird. James, does your bum and inner thighs hurt from sitting on that fence so hard, James? Yes. For so long? Yeah, yeah, it does. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And you mean literally because that's what I do. Yeah. Yeah. I squat on a fence hours in between the recording of this. Yeah, but no. Yeah, maybe. You know what I like? I like that Manta's got a but no. Yeah, maybe. You know what I like? I like that Mantis got a chance too.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Pom Clementi. Mantis got a chance to. Mantis got a chance to sort of shine in this because, you know, she's pretty much, you know, she had a little bit of screen time in Guardians 2 and then, of course, she was in. Infinity War. Yeah, for a second. She got a little bit to do in Infinity War, less in Endgame obviously.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, absolutely right. And no screen time in, well, is she even in Thor Love and Thunder? She is. She's in it, yeah. I mean, they're all in it. Yeah, they're all in it, aren't they? Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:51:55 This is definitely more of a Drax Mantis-focused situation. Good fun. I even liked Chris Pratt in this. Yeah, I liked him too. I thought he was delightful. Yeah, no, he's a good bit of a girl. He does have a charisma to him, doesn't he? He certainly does, yeah. Wow, I liked him too. I thought he was delightful. Yeah, no, he's a good Peter Quill. He does have a charisma to him, doesn't he? He certainly does, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Wow, that was the biggest backhand compliment. I even liked Chris Pratt in this. I see both sides, so it's fine for me. Spoilers, Mason. So Mantis, as suspected, is actually Peter Quill's sister. Yeah. And she wants to get him the perfect Christmas gift, but what could it be, Mason?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Now you say something. It's Kevin Bacon. That's right. I steal Kevin Bacon. It's Kevin Bacon. That's right. I steal Kevin Bacon. The real Kevin Bacon. So Mantis and Drax travel to Earth to find real Kevin Bacon, who they're disgusted to discover is actually an actor. It turns out everyone in space, well, a couple of things
Starting point is 00:52:38 that I loved about this, one, everyone in space hates actors for some reason. They all think they're scum. There's a line that Drax just says. He says, we hate you to Kevin Bacon. And it's just the delivery is just, Dave Bautista's amazing. Yeah, yeah. And also in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the GoBots are real
Starting point is 00:52:58 and they killed one of Drax's relatives apparently. But also they're a cartoon. Yeah. Yeah. There was a moment when they visit, yeah, Hollywood Boulevard and they see what they think is Steve Rogers and. There's a Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel or whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's a little bit confusing because it's like there's a Jack Sparrow. It's like their Hollywood Boulevard is a mixture of real life superheroes and go bots, which are also real. Yep. And that would happen. I think if we had real superheroes, there'd be people. No, you're right. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Oh, yeah. No, I'm not complaining, Mason. I also enjoy when they're flying the ship over and people are kind of looking up and some people are just like, okay, whatever. Other people are crying. Because what account of all their family was killed? Like what does it mean when a spaceship shows up now
Starting point is 00:53:41 in the Marvel Universe? Probably bad. I enjoy how they take on the cops. I think it highlighted the strength of Drax and Mantis compared to regular people because you only see them really fighting space creatures and deities and whatever. Thanos and so forth.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Whereas if you put them up against normal people in cars, Drax is bulletproof and he can just flip a car with no problem at all. I like how he thought that giant candy cane was a man. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I like when they went to the bar and whatever. It was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Kevin Bacon was really good in this as well. Sure, yeah. As playing himself. How much do you think when they get a celebrity in to play themselves, do you think they go, what kind of car do you have, Kevin Bacon? Oh, a Tesla will give you a Tesla? Does he have a Tesla in this? Yeah, he's got all these Christmas presents.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I didn't notice at all. Okay, right. It's interesting. You'd think he'd have Stark tech and not something shitty, Mason. Absolutely. Well, it's interesting. But what i found interesting it i felt it was noticeable in its absence is kevin bacon the actor in this or kevin bacon the character seems to be completely oblivious to any of this before this moment it's like they took real world kevin bacon and put him
Starting point is 00:55:00 in the marvel universe to get he's like oh aliens, oh, aliens, I get it. Like the time when Endgame happened, let's say. Yeah, you're absolutely right. But he was like, what is this? You'd get it in this universe, I think. Yeah. He probably played some of these characters on screen maybe. On a biopic and whatever, yeah. There was also no references to his character in X-Men,
Starting point is 00:55:19 which I thought was interesting. Oh, yeah. That's interesting. Well, maybe in this universe he wasn't in X-Men, Mason. He wasn't pre-Magneto. We should ask him if we ever see him. Yeah, I think we should. He'd love that.
Starting point is 00:55:29 But, like, do you think his house looks anything like that house? No, I think they probably didn't use his real house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't reckon. Maybe something similar. Also, that's his real wife on the phone as well. Oh, right. I was talking to him.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Oh, there you go. I also like his tiny little coffee table. Did you see that? He goes into his living room and there's, like, a couch that is as wide as his entire house. And then he's got, like tiny little coffee table. Did you see that? He goes into his living room and there's like a couch that is as wide as his entire house and then he's got like a coffee table. What is he even doing? Yeah. Because his family's not there.
Starting point is 00:55:53 That's true. At his Christmas. He's watching Santa Claus Conquers the Martians. Where were they? Great question. Oh, they were coming home or he was going to. Maybe his wife was coming home to serve him divorce papers. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Because in this universe, she's divorcing him. He also mentions Batman. Uh-huh, yeah. And we've talked about this before, but because I think, what movie is it? Superman is maybe mentioned in Eternals or something. He is, yeah. So thus far, in the MCU, the DC characters are fictional characters.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Maybe they're in movies or comic books or what have you. Until one company buys another company. That's right. But in DC, nobody's mentioned anybody, I don't think. I don't think they want to give them the publicity I said. That's true. Because people would immediately storm out of the theatre. If Batman was like, Spider-Man would never act like that.
Starting point is 00:56:37 People would be like, oh, my God, I forgot Spider-Man exists. How did he go? Oh, I thought you meant because they're bad. But, yeah, absolutely. But I like how Mantis used her powers on him to present him to Peter Quill. And I thought his reaction was quite funny where he wasn't like charmed or impressed at all. He was just like, you've kidnapped a man.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And why did you do this? And then, you know, Kevin Bacon in the spirit of Christmas, you know, comes around and decides to sing a song with them and whatever. It was really great and it was really fun. You know who I think really sells tender moments in these movies and presentations
Starting point is 00:57:16 and etc? Sean Gunn. I think he's very good. I agree, yeah. He brings a little bit, it could be a bit too schmaltzy, but he's sort of like this... He's got a bit of that magic, doesn't he? He does have a little bit of the magic, even with that disgusting fin on his head. Even when he's a gross fin-headed cyborg monster, he still, you know, he brings a little sentiment,
Starting point is 00:57:33 but it doesn't seem schmaltzy, which I think is very good. No, I completely agree. Yeah, no, it does, I like that bit where he's explaining like what happened after that and the true meaning of Christmas and all of that and Yondu, you know, it turns out that he was actually, you know, he was enraptured in the magic of Christmas. He was by the gift and he gave Peter Quill some guns.
Starting point is 00:57:50 His signature guns. I really enjoyed the unwrapping of the presents, though, for everybody. So Rocket got Bucky's arm. Yep. Which one? That's a great question. It looks like his Wakandan arm. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Because that's the one he wanted. Yeah. Well, that's true, yeah. So I don't know whether that was. It wasn't his Wakandan arm. Yeah, that's what I thought. Because that's the one he wanted. Yeah. Well, that's true, yeah. So I don't know whether that was. It wasn't his Russian one. No, they didn't have the star on it at least. I think Groot got a Game Boy, which also is terrible. Because Groot plays the fancy schmance, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:19 he's got the video game system in one of the Infinity War movies and whatever. Yeah, right, right. Like Game Boy, that would suck. And Kraglin. Maybe he likes the retro charm to it. That's true. But he didn't get any.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I mean, was there one cartridge in that? Probably Tetris. Probably Tetris. Super Mario Land. But I liked how they all got dioramas of themselves. And Kraglin's diorama was a diorama of him holding his diorama. That was fun. Did they look real to you?
Starting point is 00:58:45 Do you think they were CG? I didn't think about it. I don't know. I'd have to have another look. You didn't think they looked real? They looked a little CG. Not that I'm complaining. Well, it sounds like you're complaining.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I am complaining, actually. Did it take you out of the movie and whatever? The holiday special? I was like, oh, my God, I forgot Spider-Man exists. I'm going to go watch that. Absolutely, yeah. I think I want another thing that highlights that the james gunn does really well in this so he does do heart and schmaltz very well as mentioned like he does it
Starting point is 00:59:10 in all of his movies except for super which is mostly just gross and there's a bit of a bit of it in there but um he's he's really good at picking semi-obscure but also really catchy songs to put in he doesn't make the obvious choice. And I think there's a lot of movies. I loved all the bullet with butterfly wings. Well, that was my example of a bad example where somebody just went, okay, oh, paint it black. Yep, all right. Someone got rinsed this week for liking that on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I saw somebody was like, I like the bit where the paint it black and the rocks look on the army. And it was like, what's your real movie the paint it black and the rocks look on the army. And it was like, dude, you suck. Watch a real movie, idiot. Kill yourself. I see both sides. Yeah, it's true. You do.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You hope he would see a real movie and kill himself. And ugh. And ugh. So three sides in that instance. Yeah. So, yeah, I just highlight it to me that, yeah, that's interesting that he can do that thing.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Got some Easter eggs, Mason. Okay, I'm ready. God of War was mentioned. That's true. Because Drax looks a little bit like Kratos. That's right. Have you finished that yet? God of War?
Starting point is 01:00:16 No. Okay. I will. At the moment, I've got to get stuck more into it. But it does feel. That's not the attitude of the God of War. I agree. He's like, come on.
Starting point is 01:00:24 You know what he's like. But it feels. And I've got to get into it, but it does feel... That's not the attitude of the God of War. I agree. He's like, come on. You know what he's like. But it feels, and I've got to get into it more, of like, it feels like an expansion pack of the previous one, but I know it's not. I just need to like, I'm in very early days and I just need to do more of it. Kingo, did you see? It's a Kingo Christmas, sure.
Starting point is 01:00:39 There's been more references to Kingo in subsequent Marvel stuff than actual, any real kingo they're friends as well um james garden yeah because i remember he used to go on the um the indoor kids like this famous uh flora borg is in this uh who is he in this lula borg is it in the bar bartender okay oh that's why he seemed familiar yeah yeah okay because he was javelin yes he's definitely in it we see a map the hollywood stars map and there's a few people on there, but we get John Cena and Margot Robbie who are, of course,
Starting point is 01:01:09 both in the Suicide Squad and one of them is in Peacemaker. And as I mentioned, Kyra. Which one? Dunno. Kyra Sedgwick. Sedgwick? Sedgwick? That's Kevin Bacon's wife who is in this.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Okay, right. Is the voice of. Oh, she had a separate house. Yeah, she did. Oh, no. Yeah. No, no, not on the map. No, she was on the phone, I should say. All right, all right. I didn't mention that. Okay, there you go. Oh, she had a separate house. Yeah, she did. Oh, no. No, not on the map. No, she was on the phone, I should say.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I didn't mention that. Okay, there you go. She was in the closer. Which one's that? She was a profiler or something. FBI profiler. If that's who I'm thinking of. It might be what you're thinking of.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Maybe. He also said, James Gunn talked about the deadline about what this means for Volume 3. He says, so the advantage is I don't have to talk about where they got the new Guardians HQ, nowhere from, or Cosmo being around nowhere. And Volume 3 has a lot of heaviness to it, so shooting that for a few days and then shooting this goofy thing these days were like my recess. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I think it was more than a couple of days of filming, obviously. But, yeah, so it seems like it's going to be a little bit heavy, this Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, and bring everything together I think it was more than a couple of days of filming, obviously. But, yeah, so it seems like it's going to be a little bit heavy, this Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, and bring everything together in such a way, et cetera, and so forth. Okay, sure. If you know what I mean. I don't.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I wonder, and I'd love to know the metrics on this, so you might be able to answer this. Ask your dad. I will. How does it compare putting something out like this or Werewolf by Night? But I would say more so this because this is obviously more well known compared to doing eight to ten episodes of something like there must be a point in eight to ten episodes where you're not gaining more like subscribers right because they people would have either jumped on for episode one yeah or or they would have heard oh it's pretty good you should sign up by like episode four yeah that right and maybe i
Starting point is 01:02:43 think there are exceptions to that where like maybe, for example, word of mouth about Andor spreads, now it's really good and then more people kind of sign on after it finishes. But like how does something like, like what would the boost from just a 40-minute something like this compare to doing a She-Hulk or doing a Moonrun or whatever? But perhaps Disney Plus doesn't play by the same rules as Netflix.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Maybe they're like, if we sort of drip feed one of these every few months, we retain viewers. Oh, okay. Maybe there's another metric there. You did have an answer. Didn't even have to call Dad. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Maybe that's it.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Maybe they notice a downtick in people cancelling. Yeah. You know? You might be right. They go, okay, we'll put, you know, X thousands of people drop off every month, but then they stay. Would you have gotten, if you hadn't had Disney Plus for whatever reason, would you have got it for this or torrented it?
Starting point is 01:03:36 I mean, well, that's a great question, James, but that, oh yeah, that implies that I'd be a completely different person, James. Yes. Because that would suggest that I haven't. I would love that. Yeah, I know. Me too, honestly. But that would suggest that I haven't. I would love that. Yeah, I know. Me too, honestly. But that would suggest that I haven't seen any of the previous stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Yes, you're right. Yeah. So I probably wouldn't be interested. Yeah. You know? If I didn't like Marvel stuff. Maybe if you were just, let's say, this completely different person. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Maybe you were just a movie guy. You're not coming on for a moon. Am I a movie star? No. You're not coming on for a moon night because you only like the Marvel movies. Oh, I see. So you're not going to come and watch moon night you only like the Marvel movies. Oh, I see. So you're not going to come and watch Moon Knight.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Okay. What does that mean for you? What does it mean for me? Who would I do this show with? Still you? A guy who doesn't watch any of this stuff? Every week I'm like, I didn't say it and I won't. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I'd be interested if anybody like signed up for Disney Plus for this. Solely based on this, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, anyway. up for Disney Plus for this. Solely based on this, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, anyway.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Even just the idea of like what's the benefit of putting in, say this was $20 million. I don't know. But then again, if they've already built the set and they're factoring the budget and whatever, I can't imagine it would be that costly comparatively to building a whole thing from scratch. Yeah. Like what's the benefit of putting this amount of money as opposed to like putting $100 million into something?
Starting point is 01:04:45 Anyway. Wow. We'll never know. No, we won't. Unless somebody asks James Gunn and he tells you. And then we know. Then we know. All right, Mason, it's time to move forward though.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Okay. What are we going to do? James, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? Panic stations, everyone. I agree. What can we do? How about failing a new idea?
Starting point is 01:05:05 We, in fact, just do our regular segment, one of our most famous segments, what we read and what we're going to read. I can do that. Okay, great. Do it right now. Mason, I didn't plug it into my computer. Here we go. Let's do it for real.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Classic this guy. That was a joke. This one's real. That was a good joke. Thanks. This guy can't even operate Disney Plus. Here we go. I'm doing a joke. That was a good joke. Thanks. This guy can't even operate Disney Plus. Here we go. I'm doing a thing.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Mason. Yes, hello. What have you been doing? I'll tell you what I watched today. What? I watched a classic of the genre, buddy the classic buddy comedy beverly hills cop three no you have another yes beverly hills cop two i'll give you one more guess and if you get it wrong i'm gonna punch you in the back of the head or you could just leave it metro
Starting point is 01:05:56 i kill you it's not really buddy cop it's It's just him mostly, isn't it? No, I watch Planes, Trains and Automobiles. Oh, for Thanksgiving. Yes. Well, for two reasons. One, because it's Thanksgiving, but also Vanity Fair recently published an article that was about the oral history of Planes, Trains and Automobiles. It is apparently the 35th anniversary of the movie,
Starting point is 01:06:17 so they're doing a new restoration, et cetera. There was a deleted scene released. Vanity John Candy was very nice all the time. That's what they say about him, yeah. Apparently the new version has like a lot of digital noise reduction on it so it's quite plasticky looking. So watch the original version if you can. Yuck and gross.
Starting point is 01:06:34 But anyway, super fun. If people haven't seen it, the late John Hughes directed it and it's Steve Martin and John Candy. They're two strangers who meet. One drives the other one crazy. You can guess which is which. But they've got to work together because they've got two days to get across country for Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:06:52 And, of course, there's no – everything's booked out and everything's on fire. What do you do? Exactly. It's very funny. Have you seen it? I've seen it. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 01:07:01 But my favorite part about the article, the oral history of it, there's a bunch of great stories in it. People should check it out if they can. And they can because it's good. But my favourite part about the article, the oral history of it, there's a bunch of great stories in it. People should check it out if they can. And they can because it's free. Yeah. But so there's a moment towards the end of the movie where they are sort of stranded in this quite snowy town. It's all snowed in.
Starting point is 01:07:17 But luckily John Candy has somehow convinced a truck driver to give him a lift. But, of course, the driver's a bit freaky about letting people in his cabin so they have to sit in the refrigerated trailer in the back for the big trip. Anyway, so the actor who played the truck driver is this guy, Troy Evans. Troy Evans.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I think you probably recognise him. Yeah, one of those guys. But he got the gig. Yeah, so he got the gig. When he got the gig, it was going to be in Los Angeles where he lived, and they were going to pay him $1,000 for the day just to get in and do a line and then get out. And you get to be in a John Hughes movie, so he's like, this is great.
Starting point is 01:07:55 So then he gets a call later from the production, and they're like, oh, so the forecast in New York is there's going to be a big snowfall, and John Hughes wants the town to be really snowy looking and, you know, really, really seasonal kind of thing. So we're moving the production to New York. And so Evans is like, oh, so does that mean I'm not in the movie anymore? And they're like, no, no, we'll fly you to New York and same deal, $1,000 for the day.
Starting point is 01:08:20 So anything's great. So he gets flown to New York and on the shooting day it doesn't snow. So they're like, not to worry, it'll probably snow tomorrow. So we'll give you another $1,000 to just stick around, and it'll snow tomorrow. You can do the scene, you can do the one line, you can go home. And he's like, great. But it doesn't snow the next day or the next day or the next day.
Starting point is 01:08:39 So then they move to another city because they're following the forecast because it's going to snow somewhere else. And then they move to another city because they're following the forecast because it's going to snow somewhere else and then they move to another city so it goes and we just cgi it now it goes in event the production goes to 11 cities and he's on standby for 50 days oh my god and on the 51st day they're in illinois or somewhere and it finally snows the way john Hughes wanted it to snow and so he gets in and he does the line and he slams the door of the truck and then he goes home and so the quote from Evans is
Starting point is 01:09:13 when I left for New York I didn't have enough money for rent and then when I went home my wife and I bought our first house and here's the thing because the reason I watched the movie is because I thought you were going to be like and they screwed him out of the movie. No they didn't it was thing because i the reason i watched the movie is because i thought you're going to be like and they screwed him out no they didn't they it was insane and so the reason i watched the movie is because he says in the in the in the interview he's like oh yeah i had this one
Starting point is 01:09:34 line in this thing and i'm like i don't remember that character having a line at all so i went back and watched the whole movie which is you know good good bit of fun he doesn't say anything they cut this line out so we didn't't do it. Like literally you see him. You see John Candy gets out of his truck and he's there and then he just looks perturbed and he closes the door of the truck. God damn. And that's it. He got $51,000 for it.
Starting point is 01:09:55 That's insane. Yeah, you're right. What year was that? What, 87? I'm going to check this. $50,000. I want to know how much. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Inflation calculator. US inflation calculator?. $50,000. I want to know how much. Okay. Inflation calculator. Yeah, nice. US inflation calculator? No. Oh, wow. No, Mason, of course it is. Let's do 50,000 euro. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Why is this so complicated? Just give me the fucking number. Oh, that's today. It's $131,000. There you go. Fucking hell. Yeah, right. So maybe in the new restoration he gets the line put back in.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Yeah, maybe he does. You'd think so. Is he alive? Yeah. He was in Bosch. Bosch? Wait, Bosch or Bosch reboot? Bosch new.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Bosch new. I think both. I'm a new Bosch. I'm your new Bosch. New Bosch, same as the old Bosch. I think they're both. Great, terrific. Yeah, people should check that out.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah, it's a good movie if you haven't seen it. Also, young Kevin Bacon's in it for like two seconds. How young? Whatever age he was in 1987. 20-ish? Yeah, 25, 28. Yeah, 25, 28. Kevin Bacon is 67 years old.
Starting point is 01:10:57 That's insane. I agree. And he's still alive. Great question. I mentioned this last week but I actually read it all two volumes of a righteous uh righteous thirst for justice for vengeance god this title i always get it wrong let me double check that because i've written it wrong here i don't want to get it wrong yeah righteous thirst for vengeance uh it's by uh rick remainder uh remender remender yeah uh it's about a guy and
Starting point is 01:11:23 it's kind of unclear i feel like at the start of how this kind of happens but you kind of piece it together more as it goes along he somehow gets onto the dark web okay and starts like looking at the contracts that are happening and tries to like interfere and like oh like if there's murder contracts yeah and so he's he's just suddenly like in the underworld and he's just like a regular guy oh but he's trying to stop this stuff he's not trying to be a criminal yeah no, no, I think, yeah, sort of. It's kind of like. He's just a dad.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Not really, sort of, yeah, but he's just like a guy and then like his skills obviously. Does he have dad skills? Yeah, a little bit, yeah. He's got a dad attitude. Yeah, like he's cunning but he's like a guy. Oh, cunning like a dad. Cunning like a dad would be.
Starting point is 01:11:58 And again, he looks like Benedict Wong. So I think if they make this movie, they should just put Benedict Wong in 100%. What a world you could be in if like a comic book artist or somebody is just like, my character looks like Benedict Wong. And then you hear about it and you're like, yes, I'm in. Yeah, absolutely. I can be in this movie.
Starting point is 01:12:14 So, well, I mean, yes, in one way. So I don't know if we've mentioned the podcast before. Rick Remender wrote a comic book series called The Last Days of American Crime. Oh, yeah, you talked about that I enjoyed a lot which is about a um sort of a near future America where the government decides to create a device that makes people unable to commit crime and so a bunch of a bunch of uh near dwells decide they have like they've got a week to commit the biggest heist ever yeah you know and get out with the money before they physically can't do it anymore. And that was turned into a Netflix movie, which I was going to watch,
Starting point is 01:12:52 but then every review was like, this is the worst movie Netflix has ever made. Yeah, I forgot they made that. And that's saying something. And that's saying something. Oh, man. So I don't know. So, you know, I would like to – this sounds intriguing. It's good. And I would love to –
Starting point is 01:13:02 You love torture. You're going to love it. I don't like that, though. Then you might not like it that much. Wait, getting love torture. You're going to love it. I don't like that, though. Then you might not like it that much. Wait, getting tortured or doing torture? You're getting tortured. I don't like that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Anyway, yeah, I would like to see this as a movie with Benedict Wong as long as they do it right. Or a series or whatever. Yeah. It's really good. I really like it. I mean, you could cast somebody else, but, yeah, again, he looks just like him. Anything else, Mason? Oh, Rick and Morty just started again.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Oh, did it? I forgot. Yeah, that's what happened. It was like Thursday, and I'm like, oh, shit, Rick and Morty's back. And it, did it? I forgot. It got to like Thursday and I'm like, oh shit, Rick and Morty. And it's good. It's a good season. Okay, great. Terrific. Is it more lore heavy or is it more like-
Starting point is 01:13:32 It got very meta last week. I can't remember. I went and fought. I can't even explain it, Mason. It was just like various meta supervillains and heroes and they had like names that sounded like story beats and whatever, but they were also real names and whatever. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:46 It was one of those episodes where it's like, I can't keep up with this. I might have to start the season. I might have to start the season again. I think the last one I saw was with Evil Morty. Oh, okay. So you haven't watched this season at all then? No, I think I've watched some of it.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Yeah, because that was the- What did they bring him back? They haven't brought him back this season yet. What was the name of the team that they're like a Guardians of the Galaxy? The Interceptors or something like that. Yeah, there's some shorts. There's a series of like two-minute shorts on YouTube
Starting point is 01:14:11 if people want to track them down now. I did already. Okay, then. I meant other people. Cool, cool people. Also, we're going to watch Glass Onion, so we might talk about that next week or subsequent. For a second I thought you'd done a fake title for something.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Right? But it's called Glass Onion. It's called Glass Onion, yeah. So go and see that if you are so inclined. All right, let's move it along, Mason. Okay, let's play the letters theme because the next segment, maybe one of our most famous segments, is the letters segment. I love how you think, Mason.
Starting point is 01:14:38 So I'm going to play this theme. Let's do it. The classic one was... Boo! Oh, man. What are you booing there? I don't know Me being helpful? Yeah
Starting point is 01:14:48 By playing the lettuce thing? Yeah, I see that But I also see that some people don't like it I see both sides Alright, great Are you one of those people that doesn't like it? No, I see both sides Oh, so you don't have a firm
Starting point is 01:15:00 You're not going to say either way No, because I see both sides, Mason Wow I'm above it And I see both sides That's terrific Yeah. I'm above it and I see both sides. That's terrific. Yeah. Anyway, if you do want to reach the show,
Starting point is 01:15:08 hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter. Just shoot us a Gmail at weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Here's an email from Daniel. He's emailed weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Hello, Mr. Sunday and the two Jameses. What up, dog? Makes sense. I blitzed through all your pods and big sandwich over the last 18 months.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Great laughs, great mates. People always put in a bit of a sob story here, so while I was in hospital last week, I caught up with you guys as a respite with crap 3G reception in the middle of the sick house. Woo! Cheers for the company. So at university, I lived with one of Alan Moore's daughters,
Starting point is 01:15:38 and she popped home to see family, leaving me in the house on my own. The only instruction was that if Nick Cage calls on the house phone, not to give any mobile numbers out as he'd been stalking Alan trying to chat to him. As it turns out, he didn't call. A shame. I have other interesting anecdotes about Alan Moore, but I don't want to breach the circle of trust.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Sorry. How about doing some caravan of garbage around Nick Cage, maybe linking to the Spider-Verse next year? Yeah, I mean, there's so many. I mean, where would we even start? What direction do we take it in? I mean, his weird, like, action crap, I assume, would be like next, knowing, like that kind of.
Starting point is 01:16:17 His face. I feel we'd get the most traction for, like, a face-off. We did a commentary on face-off. We did a commentary on face-off. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, keep up the good work. commentary on face-off, yeah. Yeah. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Dan.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Thanks, Dan. Dan the man, I'm going to call him. Dan, send us some secret Alan Moore stories. We won't mention them though. I thought you said for a second there, send us some cigarettes. Dan, some cigarettes. Send us some cigarettes. They're really expensive in Australia. They are, right? When we could do Con Air, that's a good one. That's true. There's a bunch of stuff. Maybe if we did like Face Off Con Air
Starting point is 01:16:45 we'll probably do National Treasure at some point ah terrific I'm guessing those two movies when that series comes out or it's already out yes
Starting point is 01:16:52 is it out? I don't know you know what I do want to do what's that? because this reminded me there's a Sorcerer's Apprentice I want to do the movies that are a big shot
Starting point is 01:16:59 at Disney making a franchise that like disappeared yeah right so like Sorcerer's Apprentice. Yep. John Carter. Yep. What about that one with the little Irish
Starting point is 01:17:12 boy who was the supervillain? I've forgotten. Oh, yeah, whatever. Yeah, that one. Artemis Fowl. Yeah, that was a movie? That was a movie. Yeah, shit like that. That was one of the earliest Disney Plus like COVID pandemic. We'll chuck it on Disney Plus because it's awful. Yeah. And chop it to bits.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Chop it to bits. More like Fatima's bow. Ha-ha, nice. I haven't seen it, Mason. I've seen it. I've got a – have you? Yeah, eventually. Why?
Starting point is 01:17:36 I know you saw the video on it. Well, yeah, I saw the Nando B movies video about it. And I'm like, well, I should watch the movie to see if it's bad. And? It's bad. Yeah. He was right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:44 In many ways you didn't have to watch it. No, It's bad. Yeah. He was right. Yeah. In many ways, you didn't have to watch it. No, it's true. I could have just watched that video. This is from Justin, hashtag Wikipedia Planet Pod, Mr. Sunday Movies and at Wikipedia Brown. You guys have got to watch the new Santa Claus series on Disney+. It's like whoever wrote it watched your videos and made a series answering all of your questions about how the universe actually works.
Starting point is 01:18:03 I've heard this a few times from people. That is fascinating to me. It seems as if maybe somebody watched our videos and then addressed it. I mean, people have had these questions about this series, I assume outside of us. Yeah, right. They directly reference like what happened to Mrs. Claus's brain and their kids growing up in the North Pole and all of these things that we talked about. Because we wondered if when a woman becomes Mrs. Claus,
Starting point is 01:18:29 she loses her personality. Yeah, and apparently she's got like no memories or doesn't remember. They also addressed the previous Santa Claus before Tim Allen, which we were also confused about. But again, I think these are like general questions. But I would love to revisit this, yes. Let me erase any doubts in your mind, James. We've never had an original thought.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Well, that's true. It's probably somebody else. Exactly. So I think it's a bit presumptuous to be like, yeah, anybody watched anything we did. It's true. But, I mean, those videos don't get no views. They get some views.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Yeah, but they're not like 10 million views a video or whatever. They're not Mr. Beast videos, are they? We're not doing a big MrBeast situation where everybody lick this plane for a million dollars and then you keep the plane. I'll kill you. What? Lick it. I'll kill you.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Sometimes, folks, after we record a podcast, we watch a MrBeast video as a sort of reward for ourselves. The last one we watched was how long can a bunch of YouTubers touch a plane? The last one to let go of the plane. Gets a million dollars or something. And they're all like, it's fascinating because they're all like, again, they're all wired as YouTubers.
Starting point is 01:19:35 They're all like up here. The whole time. And MrBeast is like, what are you going to do with this plane? Who are you going to give this plane to? And the guy's like, oh man, I'm going to give it to my brother because he works so hard or whatever. And it's like, what are you going to do with this plane? Who are you going to give this plane to? And the guy's like, oh, man, I'm going to give it to my brother because he works so hard or whatever. And it's like, what does that mean? It's a Learjet or whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Like, can your brother fly this Learjet? Yeah, what do you mean? Is he going to just like privately fly people around as a pilot? And then he gets to the end and that guy wins. And he's like like he brings his brother and his brother's is also wired to be a youtuber he's like oh my god you did it you won me a plane apparently imagine if i brought you into a room and i was like james i won you this plane you'd be like oh why do i have to rent this hangar you'd say how much is that gonna apparently mr
Starting point is 01:20:22 beast like or often is just like all the money. Yeah. Yeah. But it's funny because all of them are massively successful YouTubers, like way more than me. There's just a different level. And then he's a level above that. So just that dynamic is really interesting in itself.
Starting point is 01:20:39 But for me, if he was like, put your hand on this plane for a week or whatever, I'd be like, no. So I don't understand. Like they would have more money than us. Yeah. Without question. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Without it, they do one video that would do better than everything we do for the entire year. Yeah. But I guess it's for the clout, I guess. I don't get it. Also, I'm like, I fucking hate everybody in this room. Just terrible. Oh, because you'd be in a room with all the other australian youtubers baby all the local guys yeah whatever that even fucking looks like yeah i don't
Starting point is 01:21:10 know i don't know anything about australian youtube to be honest i've never been to an event who's famous here like i don't i don't we could be walking past them every day like i honestly don't i've no fucking we could be walking past them every day and they recognize us and they're like yeah but just i don't know man like that level of like youtube and i don't know if this like mr beast he's done a lot of charity stuff as far as i'm aware like they just seem like a pack of fucking psychos like to be honest i don't know that for a fact yeah obviously but just i don't know there's just something's missing there that's interesting that you're not taking both sides here.
Starting point is 01:21:46 No, not on this one. It's interesting that in a lot of arenas you would take both sides, but when we watch those MrBeast videos, there's one guy who whenever he comes on screen, you're like, oh, he kicked that guy in the head. I do say that. I'm not going to name him. Because you don't know his name.
Starting point is 01:22:03 I don't know. Yeah, I do want to kick him. He you don't know his name. I don't know his name. Yeah. I do want to kick him. He's one of Mr. Beast's friends. I want to kick him so hard, mate. Anyway, it's a bit of fun. The videos are a bit of fun, aren't they? They're pretty good, aren't they?
Starting point is 01:22:19 They're very watchable. They're just perfectly designed, aren't they? Do you think he comes up with all his ideas? I mean, he'd have a team to do it, obviously. But like just and like he trims the fat. So if it's just like, I don't know, we got to live in a swamp or whatever. I don't know, whatever they're doing, there's no like, hey, guys, so I'm here at the swamp and this is my boy, whatever. Today, you know, the idea is we're in the middle.
Starting point is 01:22:42 It's just like go and it just starts. And I think that's really like interesting. Like you'll make it just eight minutes. He won't do like a 50-minute video. It's so like tightly produced. And what's also interesting is that. I want to kick that guy so much. Just thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Let me kick him. Yeah, yeah. So there was one video. You know, look, doing YouTube isn't a job in the sense like being a nurse or a construction worker. Absolutely not. Or any member of the village. Yeah, any job ever, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:14 A policeman, Native American and so forth. That job, yeah. That job. But there was an episode where he decides he's going to see if he can not eat for 30 days. And it's not just him in a room and he just sits there for four. He's also doing regular Mr. Beast videos during it. So you're seeing the videos that he's already made.
Starting point is 01:23:36 And we've seen because we've watched a lot of them. And then you go, oh, he hadn't eaten for two weeks. Yeah, and he's just like falling apart, but he's just, just, just driven. God damn. That's a commitment. Yeah. Anyway. That let Larson take hands off a jet from two weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:23:51 It's got 60 million views. Well, you wanted to know who was going to take the hands off the jet. But I didn't. Who was it? It was some guy. He had a brother. Yeah. He gave the jet to his brother.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah. Yeah. God, these thumbnails. Just next level, mate. $10,000 every day you survive prison i haven't watched that one yet but i hope it's real a real prison because you're hoping one of his friends will be stabbed exactly yeah uh anyway look i just want to point out uh the guy that i'm talking about who again i can't name or even describe i wouldn't really you can't describe it Because he's indescribable.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Yeah. I wouldn't really kick him. I'm sure he's probably fine. I think you'd kick him in Minecraft. But anyway. No, I'd kick him in the chest, basically. Oh, yeah, great. That's terrific.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Just the, you know, like that kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice. Yeah. All right, I got another email here, James. Great. This is from Hendrick. Hey, guys. Hello, Hendrick.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I find, is it this Hendrick, do you think? Maybe. Okay, great. No, I said, hello, Hendrick. What did I say? I thought you said you knew Hendrick. Maybe, guys. Hello, Hendrick. Is it this Hendrick, do you think? Maybe. Okay, great. No, I said hello, Hendrick. What did I say? I thought you said you knew Hendrick. Maybe I do. Okay. I finally have a story worthy of telling after listening to all these great stories over the years. Our great stories, James. We have a lot of stories, Mason. We've got a lot
Starting point is 01:24:56 of news and stories. I was listening to the podcast on my way back to work. I suddenly found myself in the middle of a high speed car chase. An SUV went flying past me, followed by at least four police cars. Was this O.J. Simpson? It was O.J. Simpson. This is from the 90s, this email.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Wow. Yeah. So I did what any good bystander would do and pulled out my phone and started recording. Shortly after passing me, the fleeing car slammed into two cars at a stoplight. And the next thing I know, we're all surrounded by at least 10 cop cars coming from every direction. They pulled the person out of the car and started directing traffic, and I finally made it back to work after 45 minutes. In the video, you can see my dashboard, and it showed the podcast as what I was listening to
Starting point is 01:25:33 when I posted the video to Facebook, which, again, involved police chases and car crashes. Some of my friends only thought to comment, Whoa, you listen to the Weekly Planet? I love that show. Some of his girlfriend's friends said that. Oh, that's great. I love that. There you go. Do we have the video?
Starting point is 01:25:48 We don't have the video. He's not sent the video. Can I use this time for some shameless self-promotion and be the official lead singer of Negated of the podcast? Oh, absolutely. Sounds like a band. Sounds like a Norwegian metal band. It certainly does, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:26:02 His name is Hendrik, so probably. Sounds right to me, Mason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely right. That's really good stuff. Well, I'm glad you're okay and you weren't killed in a police chase as well. This is from Jack. Says, hashtag weekly plan a pod.
Starting point is 01:26:16 An idea for a podcast. Actors that are playing much younger characters than they are. For example, Smallville season one, episode one, Clark is supposed to be 14, even though he's like 25. Wow. I forgot that he's supposed to be that old. Yeah, that is, I feel like it's something they're better at doing now. They'll either cast someone who's actually that age or around that age or they'll get someone who looks young.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Yeah. Yeah, that's, it's funny when like, I remember like the first example popped in my head of Dexter and it's like him as a teenager doing his first kill and he's just got like an awkward crooked wig on. He's like 38 years old. Or the – I saw this on Twitter the other day, but the killer from Saw, Jigsaw from Saw as a young man and it's just him with a backwards baseball and a hoodie.
Starting point is 01:27:04 And it's like, oh, yeah, that's him as a team. I don't know if I could. I'd have to do a bunch of research, but I do like the idea of that. Yeah. What else have you got, Mason? I've got one more email. This is from Kingsley. Hello, Kingsley.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Kingsley says. Isn't he related to Kingo from the Eternals movies? Maybe. Do you think he's related to Ben Kingsley? Ben Kingsley, maybe. I don't know. Ask him. Well, his name's Kingsley Kingsley.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Okay, then yes, probably. Hi, James and mate. So long-time fan. I work full-time and I'm a father of two. When James spoke about operating at 40%, I burst out laughing as it's the best description possible. Yeah. I told my partner about it, but guess what?
Starting point is 01:27:37 She doesn't get it. So I don't know. Yeah, don't tell your partners anything that happens here. They're not going to like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't like it. Just don't. A lot of this happens here. They're not going to like it. They don't like it. Just don't. A lot of this podcast is built on a very delicate web
Starting point is 01:27:49 that will collapse if you attempt to explain any of it. Yeah, a lot of people don't get it and that's fine. It's not for everybody and it clearly isn't, Mason. Oh, we came fourth in the Australian Podcasting Awards. I forgot to mention that up top, which is obviously disappointing, not for the people who voted for us. Thank you very much. Yeah, I wanted to win and then not turn up.
Starting point is 01:28:05 We're sending out a variety of thank yous. Anyway, next year I want to – I don't know whether I'll have the enthusiasm next year but my idea was and I talked about this. You'll be full of beans next year. Maybe, hopefully. But the idea was like to really go at it really hard, put it in every YouTube video, plaster it every day, all the time, everywhere and then definitively 100% not show up.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Terrific, yes. Because I think there's been one podcast that's won at the past like four years and I'm like, enough of that. Oh, the same person every time. Whatever that podcast is. Do you think that they saw us storm at home that one time? Yeah, they were inspired by us. And they were like, we're going to get.
Starting point is 01:28:39 So that's what I'm saying. We're battling them. We've got a rivalry with whoever this is that won. Probably a couple of single gals in the city who are into wellness. Maybe, yeah. Let's not find out, but let's just do it anyway. Okay, terrific. Anyway, I might do it next year.
Starting point is 01:28:51 I don't know what to say. Anyway, thank you, though. I appreciate it. I mean, fourth is amazing still. That's true, yeah. It's not bronze. What do we get? Poop.
Starting point is 01:28:59 That's bad. Why would they jump to that? And what do the people who are below us, what do they get? They get whatever we don't eat. No. The scraps of poop. So I'm going to eat none. You'll eat some.
Starting point is 01:29:13 No, no, I'll eat none. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, James. No, no. Whoever attends the ceremony, which is Claire. Yeah, okay. Anyway, James. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Kingsley says, the other day I was at work and everybody was discussing favourite films. I asked a colleague of mine that I'm just getting to know what hers was and no word of a lie she said, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Goodfellas. What? That's somebody who really sees both sides. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know, it was more shocking that LXG was her favourite film
Starting point is 01:29:45 or that she found Goodfellas equally as good as a film as LXG. Fascinating. That is very fascinating. Very fascinating. There's no question there. Is there any casting crossover there? God, I don't know if there is. I don't know if there is, no.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Yeah. Yeah. Something to think about, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, people are wild. Yeah. But that's like normal person stuff. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:30:03 People who aren't as bizarre as us who look into every movie that's ever happened and think about it. Someone's just like, I saw two movies that were alright. Pretty good. I thought some stuff happened, then it ended. It's pretty good. Oh, I don't know if you saw this, James. What's that?
Starting point is 01:30:16 Do you know who's going to be making a guest appearance in Auntie Donna's new sitcom? Who? Richard Roxburgh as Rake. What? Yeah. As actual... Have they released a trailer? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:25 When did this happen? It's not on their channel, it's on the ABC channel. Oh my God. All right, I'm going to check that out right after this. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:30:33 When's that series coming? Early next year, right? Yeah. I'm so excited, Mason. I'm so fucking excited. Yeah. There's another one, there's another guest appearance
Starting point is 01:30:40 that I've been told. I don't think it's in the trailer, but I'll tell you what it is afterwards. Do I want to know or is it a big spoiler? No, you'd want to know. Okay, all right, cool. Is it me? Yeah, you're in it.
Starting point is 01:30:48 They filmed you. That's great. They filmed you. Getting my newspaper. Yes, that's right. I got one more here, Mason, from NinjaDude3, who says, what's the best superhero identity reveal
Starting point is 01:30:57 to his slash her love interest in your opinion? My favorite is Spider-Man 2 with Tobey and Kirsten. Mine is Superman 2, and there's two versions of this, but I guess the version that I like the most is the one where you see she figures out that he's Superman and he's hunched over and he's Clark Kent. I'm Clark Kent. I'm a grub.
Starting point is 01:31:13 I'm a little goblin grub. And he takes his glasses off and he's like, Hello, I'm Superman. And you see him physically change. Yeah, that's a good one. That is my favourite. I like at the end of Iron Man where he just says, oh, I'm Iron Man.
Starting point is 01:31:28 But it says to love interest. She was there. Pepper Potts was there. She already knew though. She saw him caught in the Iron Man suit. Oh, yeah. But that was a reveal in itself. That was a hell of a reveal.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Let me tell you that much. Great stuff. That's a great question. Name a superhero, James, and I'll tell you if there are significant other reveals. Green Goblin. No. Batman Forever.
Starting point is 01:31:48 No. Vicky Vale, Batman Forever. What about Christian Bale being like, it's not what I do, but it's who I am. It is what I do. I guarantee. Superhero reveal. Oh.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Let's see what we got here. No, I'm kidding. This must be more Lois and Clark shit, right? It's also, like, it's less common these days, considering so few superheroes have secret identities now. Michael Keaton was just like, I live above a batman. That's true. That is true.
Starting point is 01:32:17 I live here. That's where I live. Yeah. What about when the character Mr. Secret Identity revealed his secret identity on My Secret Identity? Did he ever reveal his secret identity? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Jerry O'Connell. Jerry O'Connell. Yeah. I don't know, man. There'd be a bunch. I'll think about it. It'll be the first thing I say next week. Spider-Man to Zendaya.
Starting point is 01:32:37 But she already knew. She already knew. She's like, I'm Spider-Man. I do love a one where they already knew. They're like, obviously it is. Yeah. It doesn't have to be significant other either. That's what this says.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Oh, well, I guess. I guess in the strictest letter of the law. It's not who I am, but it's where I've been. That's right. That decides who I what. Love that movie. I'm not feeling okay. I've been hit in the head a lot of times.
Starting point is 01:33:00 It's not who, but I what. Where I am. Where am I? What do you think? Anyway, Mason. What do you reckon about that? We're getting loopy. Yep.
Starting point is 01:33:12 We've got to wrap up this show, Mason. It's not even late. What's going on? I don't know. It's your fault. That is true. Yeah. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the show.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Thank you for liking and subscribing and telling your friends about it because that's how we get new listeners or even just associates. it out your window i agree get in a car chase put it on your put on your dashboard wow send send the video drive safe though obviously yeah drive safe yeah uh folks thank you also for leaving a five-star review on the podcast platform of your choice because people let some something algorithm something people let something correct let something that's right this is from uh they've got two five-star reviews here, but you can just do it in that, Mason. This is from G3ORPR who says, come on, those zits need a review?
Starting point is 01:33:53 How can you hate on the homie just having fun? Great question. That's so true. You cannot hate on the homie just having fun. This is from M. Gray Crow who says, lonesome XR, grateful to have discovered you two four plus years ago. Your YouTube and podcast got me through a lonely two years in Germany until the pandemic took my taco shop.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Boo, that sucks. Love a taco. I know, right? I couldn't have picked better boys. I lost both my best friends in one year a decade back and just haven't been able to connect quite like it. You two gents certainly filled part of that hole. I promise I'm not this much of a bombshell nutrition cracker,
Starting point is 01:34:29 but thank you. You're welcome. And, yeah, I hope you get another shot and whatever and everything's doing all right. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah. What's next, Mason? Well, what's next before we go anywhere?
Starting point is 01:34:40 I've just got an exclusive from giantfreakingrobot.com. Probably not true. Dread 2 with Carl Urban back in development. Is it? Do you believe it? No. Yeah, I didn't think so. I mean, it might be, but they don't know. That's true. Anyway, folks, thank you so much for listening. If you want to get in contact with us, you can go to Weekly Planet
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Starting point is 01:35:46 what's the comic we did this week again oh yeah we talked about the cast there's a Cassian and or prequel comic yeah
Starting point is 01:35:50 which is well we talk about it but we talked about more the idea of like comics and continuity and all those kinds of things
Starting point is 01:35:57 if you are interested yeah very true uh let's see we've got some t-shirts on tpublic.com you just search
Starting point is 01:36:02 for the weekly planet thank you to the brutes and the basilisk and rackham for all our musical themes. If you're still on your commute and you want to listen to some other stuff, once again, I was on an episode of Confessions and an episode of Do Go On. They're just right there.
Starting point is 01:36:14 They're just right there. They're just right there. They're probably linked in the episode description. Thanks, Collings. Two separate things. Two separate things. Two separate things. Two separate things.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Anything else, Mason? That's the whole show, I think. Next week, Last Onion. Nice. And then another thing after that. Terrific. Thanks, everybody. Grab that gem.
Starting point is 01:36:36 You guys, we'll see you next week. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from istanbul to paris and london one woman has a secret the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost fx is the veil starring elizabeth moss is now streaming on disney plus

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