The Weekly Planet - 46 The Infinity Stones & Batman V Captain America

Episode Date: August 11, 2014

This week we discuss the recently shifted release date for the Batman V Superman, DC's announcement of more films to come, Guardians Of The Galaxy 2, Terminator: Genisys & more!Plus we talk the In...finity Stones (or gems) and where they currently lie. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com. My name is James, editor at that website. With me as always, my co-host, Nick, Howard the Duck apologist, Mason. I guess that's my lot in life now. Or enthusiast.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Enthusiast. Thank you. Howard the Duck connoisseur. Thank you. Hey, we both go to the movies. Boy, do we. And on occasion, we go to the movies solo. Yeah. More than I used to. Yeah. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that, I think. No. It used to bother me but now I don't care at all yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:01:06 it's not weird because you go in you buy your ticket there's a second where you hand the one ticket over and then whatever and then it's dark
Starting point is 00:01:15 and you watch the movie and it doesn't make any difference yeah yeah last night some friends had a birthday and they saw two movies at the drive-in right
Starting point is 00:01:22 and I couldn't make it to the first separate cars well you see I couldn't make it to the first one but i'm like i'll catch up with you and i'll see the second one yeah and so i had to drive into the drive-in by myself in like it because i'm like i'll get there and then i'll jump into your car and then we'll watch the movie together but i i went in there and there's like two just enormous lines of cars driving and driving and they're filled with people having
Starting point is 00:01:42 you know they brought food and they're partying and they're you know they're there's a beach ball there's a beach ball thrown around you know in these line of cars and i drive up and there's the box offices in the middle of the two roads yeah and so they sort of they just lean into the passenger side of it one side they sort of lean in the passenger side of the car and and okay but they they lean into me and there's no passenger there's no passenger in the Passions of Shine in the car so it's just me I'm just like one ticket to Lucy please
Starting point is 00:02:09 and I was going to be like you want to be like I'm meeting somebody yeah no I didn't I couldn't be bothered I'm just like one and then I went in so that's
Starting point is 00:02:18 going to the that's the new frontier for me and then you stayed in your car yes so that's the new frontier is not going to the movies by yourself, but going to the drive-in by yourself. That is the new frontier.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I don't think I could do that. No. Yeah. But anyway, I got in there and saw Lucy and it's not very good. Oh, really? Makes no sense. Did she use 100% of her brains? See, that's the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I'm going to spoil it now because who cares? But Morgan Freeman is a scientist and sort of a lot of the first act is sort of maybe the first and second act is in
Starting point is 00:02:50 all the action with Scarlett Johansson is interspersed with Morgan Freeman is that good the action it's a little bit weightless
Starting point is 00:02:57 okay it's not it's not it's not very visceral because it's set in space yeah exactly so it's this action
Starting point is 00:03:03 is sort of interspersed with Morgan Freeman as this professor giving what I must assume is a really, really long lecture about what is happening to Scarlett Johansson, like in the abstract. Right. But... Does he know this is happening?
Starting point is 00:03:17 No, he doesn't know this. He just happens to be the scientist who's all about this. Yeah. But it's this long lecture about how human beings only use 10% of their brains, which is untrue. Untrue, yeah. Everybody knows that at this point.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And at no point does anybody put their hand up and go, are you a crackpot? Are you Morgan Freeman? Are you Morgan Freeman? What are you doing here? Anyway,
Starting point is 00:03:37 see it or don't see it, it doesn't matter. I'll probably watch it. Some of the effects are fine. Sure. What's Luc Besson, is it? It is Luc Besson. Fifth Element, Leon,
Starting point is 00:03:44 the Professionnel. Yeah, French. French stuff. Just being French generally. French. Yeah. Sure. What's Luc Besson? It is Luc Besson. Fifth Element, Leon, the Professionnel. Yeah. French. French stuff. Just being French generally. Okay. So that's our review of Lucy. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:52 See it or don't see it. Spoiler, don't see it. Absolutely. And that's my review of drive-ins. They're pretty good. Get some chicken nuggets. That's what I did.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I have not seen a beetle drive-in for a very long time. Maybe one day. Yeah. Maybe. The last thing I saw at the long time. Maybe one day. Maybe. The last thing I saw at The Drive-In was Two Hands. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:04:08 It's a crime film, Two Hands. It's one of my favourite movies. Late 90s, maybe. Yeah, 99. I think that was the first movie I bought on DVD. Second movie. And now where are your DVDs, huh? Where are they?
Starting point is 00:04:17 That's a really good question. Garbage dump. All those copies of E.T. Yeah, that's it. I just want to do a quick welcome to new listeners. Because we get a lot of new listeners every week. We do, yeah. I mean, briefly, then they leave.
Starting point is 00:04:29 They sure do. But we just move them along and replace them with a new set of new listeners. Welcome, new, new listeners. Welcome to the new, new listeners. Like, the old listeners started listening to this at the start of the podcast, and they got sick of it. And they've just taken their earbuds out and handed it to the next person like in the subway. Like just put them in their ears and say, you listen to this.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So welcome to those new newest listeners. Welcome. Because I think, well, this week, Mason, I made that Easter egg video and it went pretty well. It's not even Easter time. No, I know. It's weird, right? It got picked up by like Nerdist and io9 and Collider and a bunch of other stuff. So that was really cool.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And I'm happy with that. Ask Jeeves. Maybe. Yeah. Is that still good? Dogpile.com. Webcrawler. Altavista.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Thank you. Good. Yeah, yeah. All those. Oh, that's nice. So yeah, pretty cool. So it was the Guardians of the Galaxy Easter egg video. Yes, that's it.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Did you get all the Easter eggs? No, definitely not. Were people angry Easter eggs? No, definitely not. Were people angry about that? No, not especially. Because I said, look, this is clearly not all of them. Feel free to add any that I've missed. So yeah, yeah. But look, Mason, I got at least four of them.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Oh, good. What do they want from me? Exactly. Blood. And speaking of Mason, fans are calling for blood. Uh-oh. I'm getting better at transitions. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I shouldn't stop that. Well, we'll see. Fans are calling for blood. There's a blood drive. Give blood, everyone. The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot. It's on 18% at Rotten Tomatoes. I've read a lot of reviews which are not so much positive.
Starting point is 00:06:03 There are a lot of positive ones that are like, look, it could have been way worse right and we we're going to talk about it this week obviously but it's not out here for another month so i guess we'll eventually get around to it yep when no one cares maybe we'll just do it like you just did lucy just go yeah yeah it's fine and then there's a bit with that shredder yeah yeah uh massive opening weekend though 60 65 million so it was they thought it was going to tie again with Guardians of the Galaxy, which ended up getting 42 million, roughly. Okay, sure. These are all estimates.
Starting point is 00:06:30 But there's a lot of bitterness. And without seeing it, I'm wondering whether, is it a result of nostalgia? Because a lot of critics who are, I don't know, our age and older, loved this kind of stuff. Sure, yeah. And then to see it... Movie Bob is an example of one.
Starting point is 00:06:47 He's on The Escapist. Like, hate it. Hated it. Tore it apart because he's a massive Ninja Turtles guy. But I was a massive Ninja Turtles guy, but if this is terrible, I don't care. But did he tear it apart in the sense of it's a bad movie or it's just not the movie that I wanted?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Well, I think... Look, he's a good critic, right? But a criticism that can be made against him is he does let nostalgia kind of blind him a lot of the time. Sure, yeah. And that can be said for us, no doubt. Because we love the Lucy A's TV show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Oh, that's good. I stepped on your joke. I apologise. You son of a bitch. But, yeah, I just feel like... I mean, he's not the only one who's done it and you know he had some very good reasons for hating it being like kids deserve better than this and blah blah blah but from what i've heard though kids seem to like it you know what i mean i know the design isn't great
Starting point is 00:07:34 because they're giants they look like they could take a punch from the hulk that's one of the i've heard that yeah yeah but i don't know yeah i guess so because when you think the the very original ninja turtles were quite well they were very original Ninja Turtles were quite well they were a ridiculous looking but they were quite thin and sort of gangly
Starting point is 00:07:49 yeah yeah big hands yeah alarms yeah that's it yeah yeah but hey we'll let you know
Starting point is 00:07:54 in a month everybody sure yeah don't say it all and just wait for us wait for us to give the go ahead or not exactly
Starting point is 00:08:02 but onto Batman V Superman news Mason you know it's been filming big time. Thank you to Derek Jenza, who's an awesome guy. He's got an awesome band, Artificial Agent. Check him out, Mason. I will. Good.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Sounds like a threat now. Yeah, he sent some pictures over, but a number of pictures also came up of Bruce Wayne, Ben Affleck. He looks real stocky. He looks like that kind of, what's his name? The guy, the 80s Batman, the old one. Adam West. Yeah, Adam West. Who's in his 80s.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Sure. Yeah, yeah, you know that stocky kind of Dark Knight Returns Batman. Great Temples. Michael Keaton. So they're really age... Yeah, Michael Keaton. They're really aging him up. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:08:37 You know, there's been rumours that this movie, he's been Batman for 30 years. Okay, yeah. Which is possible if I guess he started in his early 20s. Yeah, okay, 30 years. It's a long time. It's a very long time for it not to be mentioned in Man of Steel. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's one of those things where it's underground and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Okay, I am very much in favour of the idea that people believe Batman's just an urban myth. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if that could last for 30 years, but I like the... And that has kind of been done and undone in the comic books. Yeah. Like, in sort of the mid-90s, they changed it so, yeah, he was just an urban myth. And the criminals mostly believe that it's just a rumor that the cops have spread around to lower the crime rate. Until they get all their teeth punched out.
Starting point is 00:09:23 That's right, yes, exactly. So he's very stocky. Very stocky, yeah, yeah. Is that a new sort of muscle system for Hollywood heroes? Yeah, sure, I guess so. Stocky. People are getting more muscular. Correct.
Starting point is 00:09:40 In general, I would say. Just look at anyone's Facebook feed. Look at all that CrossFit, Mason. You know it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, because it used to be like you didn't really have to work out for anything. And now it's like it's a requirement. Even if you're just a regular kind of looking guy, you have to get enormous. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And human growth hormone and all that kind of stuff. Well, that's kind of, you know, there are a lot of unrealistic expectations of people in Hollywood. Sure. Like men and women. Yeah. of unrealistic expectations of people in Hollywood, like men and women. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:05 It's unique for men, I think, that if a guy takes his shirt off in a movie and he's not totally ripped, that's the punchline. Yeah, it's a joke. Exactly. Like, if he's not... He's Jason Segel or Seth Rogen. Yeah, or either way. Like, if you're a little bit doughy
Starting point is 00:10:18 or you're a little bit thin, like, that's the joke. Yeah. So that's, you know... You're right. You're absolutely right. Yeah, yeah. Good point.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And I'm all in favour of it but yeah Zack Snyder also called in a radio station because they were making fun of Aquaman and he called in not to confirm that he was going to be in the movie which he no doubt is
Starting point is 00:10:37 but to defend it and this is basically what he says he said he can he's able to cut the flesh off Superman if they came in contact he's super strong it's probably all the plankton yes all the barn off Superman if they came in contact. He's super strong. Probably all the plankton.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yes. All the barnacles. Aquaman's covered in barnacles. It's not to say that he's in the movie or anything like that, but he has the potential to be a badass. Which is true. Absolutely. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Because his tough skin comes from being under the ocean and stuff. Yeah, yeah. And not exfoliating. Just let those barnacles grow. Let them go. So, yeah. And not exfoliating. Just let those barnacles grow. Let them go. So yeah, that's cool. I mean, it's good to see that somebody's got a hold of Aquaman
Starting point is 00:11:10 who's not going to make him a joke. I mean, why would they? They wouldn't put him in simply for a joke. But then again, he is used as a joke quite a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Yeah, but they couldn't... Nothing's used for a joke in this new DC universe. No jokes for us. Thank you. We don't care for them. No, no. But at the same time, if you can't poke a little bit of fun at something you love.
Starting point is 00:11:29 At the dumbest thing in the world. Yeah, exactly. Which is a man who lives under the water. Correct. And a man who dresses like a bat. All those things. Yeah, all those things. Yeah, you're right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And just a man who just loves mom's apple pie and breaking people's necks, you know? That's it. Which is the most American thing when you think about it. It really is. Yeah, yeah. But you probably heard this, but the Batman v Superman date, which was paired with Captain America 3, has been shifted. What?
Starting point is 00:11:54 Wait, wait. Who? Okay, so who broke? DC broke. DC broke. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Well, look, I don't see it as breaking.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I see it as a smart move. That would be idiots to put it up. Not because they wouldn't crush Captain America. They'd do very, very well. But they've moved it back, sorry, forward six weeks to March. So we're getting it six weeks earlier, which is great. And that shows confidence, I think. It does, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But also, and one of the guys at DC, or Warners, or one of them, I don't know, it doesn't matter. Johnny DC. Sure. He said that... What am I doing? Basically that there is I doing basically that there is no that's the best
Starting point is 00:12:28 possible name of a guy okay good who runs things over at DC good that there are no kind of you can get a big
Starting point is 00:12:36 movie any time of the year now and why jam everything into summer when you say like Guardians for example which is amazing and had a really
Starting point is 00:12:43 good week then gets beaten out by Ninja Turtles which by all accounts is not as good in the second week. When you can release Batman v Superman in March, and that can be the number one film for like a month. Exactly, at least, yeah. So it's smart. I mean, I'd say that's why Captain America has crossed one billion worldwide, because
Starting point is 00:13:00 it came out in a quieter time. Right. Not to say that that's not also because it's a very good movie, because it is. But I don't know, I think blockbusters are shifting. And I think maybe Lord of the Rings even started that by coming out in, like, December. And, you know, people realising that you don't need to open in July to be cool.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah. Drugs are cool. They sure are. That's the point. A billion dollars and drugs. So, yeah. Speaking of Lord of the Rings. are. That's the point. A billion dollars and drugs. So, yeah. Speaking of Lord of the Rings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Side notes. Yeah. So, somebody showed me the other day that, you know, how in the Lord of the Rings movies, the second one specifically. No, actually the first one, Gandalf's trapped on top of that tower. I remember. And then he gets the giant eagle. He summons the giant eagle and he flies.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Eagles right out of there. Yeah, he eagles the hell out of there. And then people have said about the sequels, why doesn't he just summon a flock of giant eagles and get everybody in the eagles? Which he does in The Hobbit. Oh, there you go. Oh, what was your next question?
Starting point is 00:13:54 No, that's fine. Because people are like, well, why doesn't he just do that and get them all to Mount Doom? Which they do at the end because the eagles pick them up. Right, right, right. He's like, why is he such an idiot?
Starting point is 00:14:04 But apparently, when he's fighting the balrog yeah so the i apparently this is a fan theory that that was his plan he talks to the eagles like off off camera and then when they're going to the mountain pass yeah and they're going to meet them somewhere and then they go through that mountain pass and he meets the Balrog and he falls off the thing. And he says, fly you fools. He is assuming that they're going to get it and they're going to find the eagle somehow.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Those eagles, they fucked right off though. They really did though, you're right. They saw that he wasn't there and they bailed. That's a good theory, I like that. It does make more sense. They've earned a no prize this week. Well done, guy who told Mason that. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Who was it? Can't remember. Johnny DC. It was Johnny DC, yes. But yeah, Batman v Superman, Captain America 3. It's win-win, right? Yes. We get Batman v Superman earlier, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:03 It is win-win. Marvel people can say, we won and whatever. You know, so all those things. Yeah, yeah. DC are cowards, which I always knew they were. Also, they announced nine DC film titles, not including Batman v Superman, up to 2020. It's like two a year.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Did they give actual names? No, but they are coming this month oh next month great well this sometime sometime soon at some point prior to their release we'll know what they are or when they're released yes what if they didn't say that would be pretty incredible yeah yeah would you go yeah of course we would yeah because we're nerds mason yeah yeah yeah they're not going to release all the titles at once, which is smart because they're probably going to end up changing a couple. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Depending on how well certain things go. But we read out a list a few weeks ago. There was like a Flash Green Lantern one, which is a good move. Because, you know, people don't like Green Lantern movie. No. No. And like a Wonder Woman solo one and an Aquaman one. And I think the Sandman one must count in there somewhere as well. I'd say so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:05 So it's all very exciting, Mason. It's an exciting time to be alive. Boy, is it. For now. Until that comic book bubble bursts. Probably somewhere between now and 2020. So, you know, these things start making money. And we're out of this job we don't get paid for.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Sure. Finally. Six more years. Six more years. Six more years. Six more years. Terminator 5, you've been following the news of that? No, why would I? Closely?
Starting point is 00:16:30 No, none of those. Not at all. Alright. They're going to have to do a lot of work to get me back on board. The Terminator movies. Can you say it for this podcast? Yeah, I'll have to, won't I? There you go.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You're back on board. I'm back on board. Reluctantly. Well, you know how it was titled Terminator Genesis? Now it's called Terminator Seeker Genesis. Yes. Brackets, the video game system. And it's just a flashback to John Connor in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Edward Furlong's back. They've de-aged him. Oh, great. With a creepy CGI. Excellent. I feel sorry. Okay, what's it actually called? Sure.
Starting point is 00:17:04 It's still called Terminator Genesis, but Genesis is spelled G-E-N-I-S-Y-S. Ugh. You say ugh. Yeah, I do. And that was my initial reaction. Oh, I see. It's like system. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I assume so. I read this on a comment on comingsoon.net, which is a website which has many movies, newses. Great. Genisys, the way that I spelt it, stands for... The wrong way. Yes. General Identification System, which is a computer system for biological identifications.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Another comment said, Genesis is also a homonym of Genesis, which is the regular way of spelling it. Sure, yeah. It is confusing. And Sega Genesis, the video game system. Which is a word that means origin or beginnings. So if you combine the two meanings together,
Starting point is 00:17:48 you have origin of a computer system for biological identifications. They've outsmarted us. I guess they have. Or that's unintentional? I don't know. I think they just... I think it's just system. I think nothing happened in Terminator News
Starting point is 00:18:04 and they wanted to leak something, so they've just tweaked the name. I think that's his system. I think nothing happened in Terminator news and they wanted to leak something, so they've just tweaked the name. Sure. I think that's probably it. Okay. Alan Taylor, Thor The Dark World is behind it. That's your favourite Thor movie? I'm sort of back on board.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it is good. I like it. Sure. But it's very, I think we've definitely talked about it, it's very light and fluffy. Yeah. Is this Terminator movie going to be light and fluffy? Well... What else has he done? Game of Thrones, which's very light and fluffy. Yeah. Is this Terminator movie going to be light and fluffy? What else has he done?
Starting point is 00:18:26 Game of Thrones, which is very light and fluffy. So fluffy. How far Game of Thrones far are you in? Still three episodes into season one. I haven't gotten to it yet. I will. And then we'll do a Game of Thrones special. In 2020.
Starting point is 00:18:40 The episode people were clamoring for months ago. Yeah. This isn't comic book news, but I've been watching a bit of the British office lately. The episode people were clamoring for months ago. Yeah. This isn't comic book news, but I've been watching a bit of the British Office lately. So I thought I'd bring this up. You've been re-watching it? Yeah. Mostly just clips on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Sure, yeah. I love that show. And it still holds up. Because people are like, Reed Gervais has lost it or whatever. And I think maybe he has. I don't know. I don't watch the new stuff that he does so much. He's got that show where he's in an old person's home and he's helping.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Derek? Derek. that's it. You've seen it? No. Yeah, me neither. But anyway, he's heading back to the office. I know this isn't really the comic book news everybody, so please just bear with me. It's pop cultural, it's fine. Exactly. It's under our umbrella. The BBC today announced that Gervais will reprise his iconic role as David Brent
Starting point is 00:19:21 for Life on the Road, a feature film spin-off, which will follow Brent's life 15 years after the end of the documentary series, The Office. Are you in favour of this? Is he flogging a dead, funny, little fat man dancing horse? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:19:38 His movie track record, not great, in my opinion. The Invention of Lying. Yeah, not a good movie. Woeful. Have we talked about this? Yeah, probably. We've've talked about it we won't get into it maybe the world doesn't make sense basically not at all no that that's beside the point did you see ghost town yes he didn't write that though no he didn't but he's okay i find him endearing enough as a character he did um the one there was a british of coming of age story, which he's briefly in,
Starting point is 00:20:05 which is set, which is kind of based on his early life. Okay, sure. Which is okay. It didn't get a massive release, but yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Okay. I'm on board with this. All right. Sure. Good. Great. Moving on. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Thanks for, I don't know. We, is it going to be, it's, I guess it'll be a slice of life kind of thing, but I don't want, I don't want, I want that character to be, I guess it'll be a slice of life kind of thing, but I don't want, I don't want,
Starting point is 00:20:25 I want that character to be okay. Yeah. Like. Cause he's really depressing to watch. Yeah. Yeah. I want him to be okay in his life, but I don't want him to fall into the trap of like,
Starting point is 00:20:34 he somehow gets another hit single or something like that. You know, I don't want it to be too. I think it's just going to be a super depressing kind of following him. And then there'll be like a light bit at the end where he kind of does okay. Because if you've seen, well, Extras, the way Extras ends, and season three of The Office, which is like two episodes. It's so grim. Right, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Like the whole way through. And it's not fun. Like season one and two are definitely better because there's fun and there's light elements to it. Right, yeah. But it's just depressing until the end and then sort of everything works out sort of. Yeah. But I'm not saying that everything should, you know, be fun and happy and everything works out the whole way, but it kind of ebbs and flows.
Starting point is 00:21:14 But he just went in a ditch and he stayed in a ditch. Right. Yes. For me, there's nothing funny about a guy who's just, he's borderline disabled who mentally. Right. And he's not aware of it where it gets to a point
Starting point is 00:21:26 where it's like maybe we should you know yeah I think that was one of the main reasons why the American office lasted so much longer than
Starting point is 00:21:34 the British one I mean partly because and they're both great in different ways but partly because you know the British British TV series only go for a short length
Starting point is 00:21:40 anyway but the American one because there was there was hope in it yeah there was more hope yeah and David Brent is not endearing and don't get me wrong he's a great for a short length anyway, but the American one because there was hope in it. Yeah. There was more hope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And David Brent is not endearing. And don't get me wrong, he's a great, fantastic character and I love those first two scenes in The Office, but yeah. It sounds like a grim affair. Boy. Yeah. Moving on?
Starting point is 00:21:56 Sure. Kick-Ass 3, Mason. Yep. The comic book. The comic book and the finale of all time forever. It's finished now. The last issue was $5.99 Australian.
Starting point is 00:22:05 That's outrageous, right? Yeah. The last issue was $5.99 Australian. That's outrageous, right? Yeah. Yeah, I paid for it. Because there's one thing in particular I wanted to see. This is a mild spoiler if you haven't read it. I'm not going to spoil the actual ending of the comic, but if you've seen anything in Kick-Ass ever,
Starting point is 00:22:19 you know that it's going to end in lots of bloodshed and the speech about heroism and how it relates to Spider-Man or whatever. Yeah, and it's going to be cool and post-ironic but at the same time somebody's going to do a speech about values and you've got to be who you are and be a step up and be a hero exactly but don't even we're too cool for it but yeah step up and be a hero absolutely yeah but there's a there's a fake not a fake ending there's a there's a hint of that ending in it where you see in the hospital at one point dave luzinski is there and in it where you see in the hospital at one point, Dave Luzinski is there. And in the background, you see what looks like him in a coma with his dad who, spoiler alert again, if you haven't seen Kick-Ass 2, the movie or read the comic, who has died. Implying that after he gets injured that very first time where he goes at his kick-ass and he gets like beat to shit and stabbed and then he gets hit by that car.
Starting point is 00:23:03 That he's just been in a coma the whole time. and it's all a dream oh that's the see that's that's brazil oh we got brazil that's repo men was that yeah yeah we got repo man yeah and that's um again for a series that's kind of oh we're cool and post-ironic that's a very cliched way to go yeah yeah well look it's only like it's it's hinted at if it's even intentional at all. Right, right, right. So I just thought that was interesting if they really want to go that way. But, yeah, we'll probably, I was going to say we'll probably never know, but we will know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Because it'll kind of hint, people usually kind of go one way or the other. Yeah. Because people keep badgering people about this stuff. Like Harrison Ford about Blade Runner and whatever. Kick-Ass is his most popular property right uh yeah but i'm kind of waiting i'm i've got zero interest in that i would much rather see superior sequel and nemesis sequel yep because i think nemesis is a much bigger world yep and we haven't really seen no well they are developing that they're doing the one uh secret service it's
Starting point is 00:24:02 called the kingsman though uh which i don't think is his best work but it's got some interesting ideas in it and the trailer looks pretty good but yeah i really love superior though and i can't wait to see superior at the drive-in yeah separate one ticket all right a lot of news this week mason okay let's get going yeah with that let's have a news special sure let's do it i it. I mean, I did pad it out with David Brent news. Boy, did you. But yeah, they're talking about a female-centered Spider-Man. We're going to do a David Brent spinoff podcast after this.
Starting point is 00:24:33 This is what we call a back-to-a-pilot. What we're going to do this week, we're talking about David Brent news. Next week, it's going to be two pieces of David Brent news. Week after that, three. And then we spin it off. Absolutely. Brentcast. We'll call it Foregone Podclusion, which is a nod to something in that show probably right and then what we're going to do is we're
Starting point is 00:24:50 just going to put weird bookends on the cast like of us talking and then profits he kicked it all off well i don't think he started a podcast but boy did he do them those are great podcasts still those he said i think that if he if he charged a pound for every download back in the day, he'd be rich. Yeah. I mean, he's rich. I mean, he's incredibly rich. He's incredibly rich. He'd be richer.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yeah. Well, he also got into that time when people were still buying DVDs. Oh, yeah. And people were loving those box sets at the office. Big time. All right. Anyway. Female-centered Spider-Man spinoff movie, Mason.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Uh-huh. For a 2017 release. Written by Lisa Joy Nolan of Burn Notice. So yeah, what do you think? They haven't said who it is but a spin-off character. I think there's going to be a lot of internal monologues.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Like the thing about being a female superhero with spider powers is just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's Burn Notice in a nutshell, right? Classic Burn Notice. Yeah, yeah. I'm okay with Burn Notice.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I don't watch it but whenever I watch it, I go, this is nice. This is fun. It was a fun little show, yeah. It's still going. I don't think it is. I'm okay with Burned Notice I don't watch it but whenever I watch it I go this is nice this is fun it was a fun little show it's still going I don't think it is
Starting point is 00:25:48 I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I saw a DVD box set in that giant smouldering crater with all those copies of E.T.
Starting point is 00:25:56 and those office DVDs you like and it said Final Notice on the box set so I think I think it's over I'm not going to look
Starting point is 00:26:04 but I think you might be wrong. Fine, whatever. All right. This podcast's over. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah. That would be amazing if that was what split the podcast. Wouldn't it, though?
Starting point is 00:26:14 Whether Burn Notice is finished or not. We'd have to get Bruce Campbell to come in and settle our beef for us. Make amends. That'd be amazing. They haven't said who, but I'm assuming it might be like a black cat. Because that character was featured in... Also not Spider-Woman. I'd like to see Spider-Woman.
Starting point is 00:26:29 That would be totally amazing. It would. But probably not going to see it. We'll probably get maybe even a vulturous. Because they've been kind of threatening that for a while. A vulturous movie. Yeah, because she was supposed to be in Spider-Man 4. And I think Anne Hathaway was even cast.
Starting point is 00:26:44 No, sorry. Anne Hathaway I think was a black cat. Or maybe vulturous think Anne Hathaway was even cast. No, sorry, Anne Hathaway I think was Black Cat. Or maybe Vulture. Anne Hathaway cannot be Catwoman and the Black Cat. No, that happened before she was cast as Catwoman after. But I'm assuming it's going to be like Black Cat. Yeah, okay. Madam Web.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Blind old lady. I think that was actually, no, I guess I remember reading that, and somebody was like, what if it is a Madame Web? It's not going to be a Madame Web. She just hangs out in bed all day. She's 100 years old. She's like Aunt May, but she's got psychic powers.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah, yeah. Don't like it. Don't like it? Because you hate old women. Especially blind old women. I think what they did is they just... I think... Because that's the sort of... That is the news article
Starting point is 00:27:21 from, you know, E! Online or whatever. Yeah. No, not E! They're pretty good, actually. But just some... I can honestly say I've never been to E! Online. No, that's a... Unless they want to offer me a job, I accept. Yeah, like CNN Entertainment News, and it's like...
Starting point is 00:27:33 And they're like, oh, it could be... It's a female-centered spider... And they've just looked up on Wikipedia, female characters in Spider-Man. And they've just gone, well, maybe it'll be a Madam Web... No, it won't. Why would it be? Yeah, you're right. But also, there's still that Venom movie that's supposed to come out that same year
Starting point is 00:27:49 that's rumoured to be titled Venom Carnage. It's a terrible name. Sure. But, I mean, if you're going to put Venom in a solo movie, you've got to have him go up against somebody. And the only kind of similar character worse than Venom is Carnage. Carnage, yeah, exactly. And Carnage's origin spins off Venom is Carnage. Yeah, exactly. And they kind of, Carnage's origin
Starting point is 00:28:05 spins off Venom, so that makes sense. Anti-heroes, Mason. We love them. We love them. I don't like them. We love to hate them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:13 We should. We're okay with them. We're ambivalent towards them. Absolutely. But also, that doesn't change Amazing Spider-Man 3 still set for 2018,
Starting point is 00:28:22 but also released this week was a whole lot of deleted scenes from The Amazing Spider-Man 2. You remember seeing that, I'm sure. Vaguely, sure. Yeah. It felt like a lot was cut from that, right? Like a whole lot of subplots. Yeah, there was a lot of subplot.
Starting point is 00:28:36 There was a lot of talking in a van. There's certainly a lot of talk. I feel that was the exposition van. They're like, well, we've got to change some plot threads here, so let's get some minor plays in a van yeah and explain what's going on exactly maybe oscorp is watching or but then it wasn't okay so do we have we does do these does this found footage reveal what they were watching i didn't i didn't watch all of them because i don't care a lot of people hate this movie and i can understand why if you're especially if you're a diehard spider-man
Starting point is 00:29:03 fan i completely get that. Sure. But I was okay with it. But I remember saying at the time, it does feel like they just filmed everything and then just chopped it down. Yes. Kind of like, this is, you know, like they had no real direction on where it was going. Right, right, right. But one of the scenes, the one that I did watch, features...
Starting point is 00:29:21 Okay, Andrew Garfield, you and the other guy, go fishing. See how that goes. Skip stones. Just have a chat and the other guy go fishing see how that goes skip stones just have a chat for a couple hours just see how it goes don't look at the van but it features
Starting point is 00:29:32 at the end spoiler alert if you haven't seen it at the end Dane DeHaan that's his name yeah Dane DeHaan he gets the green goblin disease
Starting point is 00:29:38 remember great times it's like the dreamers disease yes it is at the end H410 got you down on your knees that's dreamer's disease yes it is at the age 14 got you down in your knees that's a new radical song yes it is okay only song they had other ones i'm sure they're bumble they did so at the end spoiler alert as i said uh his girlfriend uh dies what's her name gwen
Starting point is 00:29:57 dies and then he's hanging out at her grave and he's like i'm sad my emotions well hang out hang out andrew garfield hang out at this grave just hang out we'll put whoever's name we'll CGI whoever's name on it in post we'll do that it'll be fine
Starting point is 00:30:10 just hang out it'll look sad then look happy because maybe it's a bad guy who's dead now look conflicted maybe it's a robot that's died
Starting point is 00:30:19 you're not sure how to feel maybe it's a father figure it's usually a father figure if it's not his girlfriend it's a father figure but yeah and a father figure yeah it's not his girlfriend it's a father figure yeah but yeah um and then speaking of father figures his actual father appears a lot of the ghost being like i had to hide peter because i had to protect you from oscorp your blood is poison or magic sure whatever the plot is it's destiny your blood is destiny it's poison destiny but that just goes to show that what's happening in that movie.
Starting point is 00:30:45 They just threw everything at it, saw it stuck. Yeah, that's true. And look, to be fair, the scene plays well as in the actors are good. Because Andrew Garfield is a very good actor. And the guy who plays his dad, and I'm sorry, I don't know his name, is also very good. And it's an emotional moment or whatever, but it just doesn't make any sense. Right. And it kind of takes away from the whole,'s not supposed to have like somebody guiding him like no he loses father
Starting point is 00:31:08 figures and then he like he just just keeps losing him just keeps losing him faster than he can get him yeah so yeah in the in the 90s his parents came back you can't see the air quotes you can i can't listeners can't air quotes i choose not to say them, but I could. And it turned out they were sort of robot duplicates created by the Chameleon. So maybe that's... Okay. I'd like to see the Chameleon in these movies, but vulture-esque first. Please. Please.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Thank you. So was there a bit when they took on too much of his parents' personalities and helped him out? Because they were too good of parents and even that went into the robots? Yeah, they were conflicted. Yeah, I think so, yeah. And then he wept over their grave and he was confused? Yeah, he was very confused, yeah. Okay, maybe there's a goblin glider in the grave.
Starting point is 00:31:58 You don't know how to feel. Run! It's full of pumpkin bombs, run away! But I got an email from Toby. We got an email from Toby this week, which we are going to come back to later. But he sent something that kind of ties into this. It's more to do with movie trailers.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I'll just read this and then see what you make of this. Sure. I spent two years working in a movie trailer studio in LA making trailers and commercials. I'm loving this already because I want to know what these people are like that just make the trailers. The biggest project we had was for The Amazing Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:32:30 We did all the TV spots that aired in the US. Though the editors are the ones who put the trailers together, the amount of studio influence is mind-boggling. I've seen really good movies get really shitty trailers because studio dickheads thought they knew better than us. That's why... And this makes sense, this part,
Starting point is 00:32:46 because I remember being like, why do they keep showing this? That's why almost every ad for The Amazing Spider-Man has the small knives joke in it. That scene tested well, so the studio wanted it featured in every single ad.
Starting point is 00:32:58 What small knives scene? The bit where he's attacking that mugger. Oh, yeah. And then the mugger pulls out the knife and he's like, oh, no, my weakness. Oh, yeah, yeah. Or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And it's kind of like funny the first time you see it. By the time I saw that movie, I'd seen that at least 15 times. Right, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I had that poster. Because, you know. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, isn't that interesting?
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'm not surprised by any of that. No. Yeah, yeah. Because you have to wonder who they're testing the stuff for. Yeah. I mean... People who any of that. No. Yeah, yeah. Because you have to wonder who they're testing the stuff for. Yeah. I mean... People who love knives jokes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I mean, I'll only watch like... People who love Crocodile Dundee films. Us. Yeah. Us Australian blokes. Like, I won't watch a trailer if they're like, it's in the description, it's like, oh, it's just like the other trailer, except there's some snippets of new footage. I'm like, nah, won't watch it.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Don't care. So I don't understand, do they why do they do this test well yeah oh yeah he did answer that in his email boy did he
Starting point is 00:33:51 we've got insider information there we can choose to ignore it yes let's ignore it but we'll come back to that we'll come back to Toby because he's got some
Starting point is 00:33:58 other stuff to say later alright James Gunn last bit of news he spent last weekend he said working hard on Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Starting point is 00:34:04 he was so pumped that was quick yeah so he's just been you know writing away I assume or doing whatever he does James Gunn, last bit of news. He spent last weekend, he said, working hard on Guardians of the Galaxy 2. He was so pumped. That was quick. Yeah, so he's just been, you know, writing away, I assume, or doing whatever he does. So that's really exciting. He favorited a tweet that I sent to him. Hello. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:16 How many tweets has he favored a day? A billion. Oh. Well, it's great to be part of that elite group. Yeah, yeah. No, it was more kind of like, oh, that's weird, he's real. Yeah, he is. Yeah, exactly. I yeah exactly it's not
Starting point is 00:34:26 whenever a celebrity I'm not bragging yeah maybe we'll get some celebrities on the show one day Mason we don't know nor will we ever know
Starting point is 00:34:34 any celebrities good point I feel like as well if we did say hypothetically which we never will that would bias us wouldn't it
Starting point is 00:34:42 because you'd be like if I met say I don't know Andrew Garfield and then the next Spider-Man comes out and I hate it you'd be like if i met say i don't know andrew garfield and then the next spider-man comes out and i hate it i'll be like yeah but he's a really nice guy you know what i mean i feel like exactly yeah i feel more comfortable making fun of andrew garfield not knowing him yeah i mean we have enough bias on the very rare occasion that we get a free ticket to something yes let's give it a chance guys come on it's you know and that's like $20 worth of worth of favouritism
Starting point is 00:35:07 that's right exactly yeah yeah alright look Mason we got an email from Jason we asked last week we said hey
Starting point is 00:35:12 does anyone got any got any ideas for topics and Jason wrote and he said he'd like some explanation for the infinity stones or gems as they're called
Starting point is 00:35:19 in the comics we'll only do this quickly let's not let's not dwell Mason unless you want to dwell let's not dwell yeah unless you want to dwell. Let's not dwell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just a heads up for people as well. This is going to be a shorter episode because it's very late on a Sunday night and both
Starting point is 00:35:31 of us have karate tournaments early in the morning. Yes. And we've got to get real limber. Yeah. Get up and stretch.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Because what's going to happen is I'm in a karate tournament on one side of town. You're in the karate tournament on the other side of town. Also and we're going
Starting point is 00:35:43 to have to meet in the middle. We're going to win our karate tournaments respectively. Then we're going to have to fight each other middle like we're gonna win our karate tournaments respectively then we're gonna have to fight each other that's right and the thing is that one's a real fancy karate tournament and one's a real like a real low class karate tournament so we're gonna have to keep switching outfits and going back and forth it's gonna get it's gonna get real complicated real quick and eventually i'm gonna show up at the low class one in a tuxedo and you're gonna show up at the classy
Starting point is 00:36:02 one you know wearing like a sack like bib overalls in a sack exactlyedo and you're going to show up at the classy one, you know, wearing like a sack, like bib overalls and a sack. Exactly. And it's going to be really embarrassing for everyone. So we're going to, yeah, look, just chuck this out and get out there. We know that's probably the explanation you had in your heads already, but we just feel like you're going to clarify everything on the internet. Otherwise you get letters. That's right.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah. So, yeah. Thank you for the suggestion, Jason, and all those people who sent in suggestions. I note as many of them as I can, so I backlog them. Yeah. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives
Starting point is 00:36:46 are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. So we're going to talk about the Infinity Gems. The thing about the Infinity Gems in the Marvel Universe is it's like everything in the Marvel Universe in that it's a soap opera. the universe in that it's a soap opera yes it's so it's it's so complicated yeah and everybody's dead and they've come back to life and ever yeah if you i mean if you just go to the there's an infinity gems wikipedia pages as you might imagine and it's got all the you know the all the gems there's there's six and there's six in the real moms yeah they all grab dem gems grab that gem specifically which is catching on i I think, as a hashtag. Absolutely it is.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Hashtag Grab Dat Gem. Because we established last week in our review of Guardians of the Galaxy, in our discussion, if someone were to present you with an Infinity Gem, you should just grab Dat Gem. Regardless. I mean, potentially you could explode. You will explode. But you might explode. You will explode.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And then evolve into a higher form of life yes so I'm saying grab that gem you're saying not I'm saying don't but look also grab that
Starting point is 00:37:52 if you're in space you're destined for greatness so just grab that gem and also I want to see what happens if you grab that gem that's actually a good point I might explode
Starting point is 00:37:59 but if not yeah okay anyway it's super complicated but yeah like there's six gems but there's also a seventh gem which which enables you to go to the the malibu ultraverse which was a briefly
Starting point is 00:38:13 which was a very short-lived uh superhero comic book universe in the 90s that marvel purchased which i enjoyed a lot but it's gone now what's in the Malibu universe? The Ultraverse. Did you say Malibu? Yeah, it was Malibu Comics. Okay. So that's very California. Okay. And they had the Ultraverse, which was like their superhero universe.
Starting point is 00:38:37 It's not the Mattel kind of Barbie universe, is it? No. Okay. Because when I think Malibu, I think Malibu Stacy. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, there's way too many gems. Let's talk about the Ultraverse one day. Not today, though. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I want to talk about them all. Prime. Prototype. Firearm. What? Am I making these up or are they real? Who's to say? Not me.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Not this guy. Yeah, anyway, it's super complicated. And everybody... Like, every gem has been possessed by like 20 people. Yeah. I mean, some are more affiliated with others, some than others. Like, Adam Warlock, he loves the soul gem. Loves it.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Can't get enough. No, he can't. But, yeah, we'll just talk about the gems as they exist in the movie. Yeah, because, look, yeah, look, I'm... I was looking through it. I was trying to research it. I'm like, this is too much. Well, I'm not going to do any research.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I'm just going to wing it, as I always do. I get the sense also in the Marvel... Because the comic book universe, each gem has a specific purpose. Yeah. A specific set of powers. Yes. But I think in the movie universe... And a distinct colour.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And a very distinct colour. I get the sense in the movie universe, each gem is just super powerful. Yes. They're different shaped. But essentially, they all do the same thing. You can use them for whatever. For whatever you want. Yeah, yeah. in the movie universe each gem is just super powerful yes they're different shaped but essentially they all do the same thing you can use them for whatever
Starting point is 00:39:47 for whatever you want yeah yeah they've got lots of lots of powers and such exactly like the Tesseract is which is I guess the first one we can talk about
Starting point is 00:39:53 is the space gem yeah arguably sure yeah but they also can be used to charge weapons yeah it's a space gem because it can open
Starting point is 00:40:01 portals to other realities so to space but it's also a power gem in that you can... Yeah. Yeah, you can charge Nazi weapons and shoot people with it and make a giant tank. Remember that giant tank? Oh, yeah. That was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:40:13 It was good, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I feel like, yeah, maybe... I think that one was always intended to be the space gem because they would have had plans for the Avengers at that point already. Yes. And the fact that at the end, Red Skull grabs it. Grabs that gem. He grabs that gem, as you should if you encounter one.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And he shoots off into space. Yeah. Not gone forever, but... I'm in space! Buy this gem! Oh, catchy. That's what he says. Deleted scene.
Starting point is 00:40:41 So, yeah. I mean, it shows up in... I think it's in... It's like it's seen in a manuscript in Thor. So, yeah. I mean, it shows up in... I think it's in... It's like it's seen in like a manuscript in Thor. And then a few months later it turns up in Captain America
Starting point is 00:40:50 big time. Because it was in Odin's vault. Yes. And then it came to Earth for whatever reason and then it was stored in some weird drawer in Europe
Starting point is 00:40:57 by the guy from Harry Potter who the janitor. Janitor. Skarsgård? No, that was his name. He's in Game of Thrones as well. Stellan Skarsgård? No, that was his name. He's in Game of Thrones as well. Stellan Skarsgård?
Starting point is 00:41:06 No, that's a different guy. Okay. I cannot help you with Games of Thrones. That's okay. It's fine. He's a rat-faced looking man with long hair. Great. But anyway, and so in Thor we see the Infinity Gauntlet.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But... We should probably explain that, I guess. Well, in the comic book Marvel Universe, Thanos gathers all the Infinity Gems and just puts them on his glove. Yeah. And that becomes the Infinity Gauntlet. Yes. So unless in Avengers 3, he breaks into Asgard and he finds that and he's like, oh, it's my glove. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I've been missing that for years. Yeah. Does that mean that he's already had the gems before? Good question. He's already grabbed that gem? Let's speculate. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that gauntlet existed
Starting point is 00:41:48 after he grabbed the gems. Yes. Okay. I don't know. Look, this is a bloody nightmare. Also, I don't... We're trying to simplify this. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I shouldn't have mentioned it at all. But look, yeah, it comes back, the Tesseract. But also, do you think that each of these... We saw in Guardians of the Galaxy, we saw the orb, which actually was a gem. It's the first time you actually see one, and it's a little jewel. So if you crack... It's so handy to grab.
Starting point is 00:42:18 So easy. You're going to grab that gem. Just reach out. Just reach out and grab it, yeah. So if you crack, say, the Tesseract, is there a gem inside it? Oh. I'm going to say no. It'd be silly.
Starting point is 00:42:29 That'd be silly. I'm sorry. Yeah. But yeah. Look, Loki, of course, has the Tesseract now. He got it back because he's impersonating Odin and they took the Tesseract back to Asgard after the Avengers. So he's got that gem and he's working for Thanos.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Yeah, yeah. So that's one that Thanos potentially has. Sure. Or is he working for Thanos? It's never really made entirely clear. At this point... I just hit my microphone. It's never made...
Starting point is 00:42:53 Because he was supposed to, you know, do a bunch of stuff on Earth like flatten New York and take over. And he didn't. So is he out of favour with Thanos now? No, I think we've talked about this before. My theory. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Which, again... It's a set this before. My theory, which again... It's a set up. Elaborate. Yeah, it's an elaborate set up. He was supposed to cause a ruckus on Earth and then lose. So he would be captured by Thor and then sent to Asgard. So Thanos would then have a man on the inside to grab that gem. It does all tie together.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And that's why in the Avengers when Loki kills Agent Coulson, Coulson says, you're going to lose because you lack conviction. He can tell that Loki is trying to lose. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, I say that now, but, you know, rewriting happens constantly. It sure does. None of this is probably going to come to fruition.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Did you know Joss Whedon actually threw out the first script for the Avengers? He just completely rewrote it. Did he throw it in that pit with all the copies of vt and all those dvds yeah yeah he threw it out completely yeah he wrote the entire thing and then he did yeah no no he came on board and then said this is before he had the job and he was like this isn't very good and then they're like do you want to write it and he's like nah but he did wow elaborate do we know who was responsible for the original? No. I mean, I'm sure it's somewhere. I'm sure I could look that up.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Nah. We don't want to shame them. No. That's right. So, yeah. The Tesseract is on bloody Asgard, right? The Aether. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:18 From Thor The Dark World. Which is read like the Power Stone from the comics. But the Aether's not the Power Stone. Which I thought it was the Power Stone from the comics. Uh-huh. But it's... The Aether's not the Power Stone, which I thought it was the Power Stone because it can eradicate worlds. Yep. But it's not. It's the reality.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It's the reality stone. Well, it's rumoured to be, anyway. Yeah, yeah. It's not confirmed. Mm-hmm. Because they're going to convert all the darkness. They're going to thaw the dark world, all the worlds. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Do you remember? They're going to thaw it out. Yes. They're going to thaw out all that darkness. So, yeah. And that one Do you remember? They're going to thaw it out. Yes. They're going to thaw out all that darkness. So, yeah. And that one's not a stone at all until the end when you see it in that little kind of lunchbox. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:51 But it's like a swirly liquid. Like a big thing of blood. Absolutely. Magic blood. Yeah, yeah. That goes into people and makes them stronger. Yep. For a while.
Starting point is 00:45:02 But not so strong that your arms can't get flying into different dimensions. Correct. If you recall uh yes so yeah that one's in the hands of the collector's got it yeah so yeah or don't i mean we can't really guardians of the galaxy okay so he might not have it anymore he may not have it but we also don't know whether the collector is working for anybody yeah like it's not implied that he's working for Thanos. He says that the post credits of Thor the Dark World one down,
Starting point is 00:45:30 five to go. Which could just mean he's collecting them. Because he loves to collect. Because he loves to collect. He loves to collect. The runner loves to run. All the other guys
Starting point is 00:45:37 like to do what they like to do. Exactly. They all do the things that their name says. Correct. So yeah, I mean he's probably still got it but who knows.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Exactly. We don't see it in Guardians of the Galaxy at all. No. Correct. So, yeah, I mean, he's probably still got it, but who knows? Exactly. We don't see it in Guardians of the Galaxy at all, so... No. No. We'll never know. We'll probably, in Avengers 3, we'll probably... We'll know. We will.
Starting point is 00:45:52 We'll know, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The... What's it called? The Mind Gem. It's rumoured to be Loki's staff. The gem in Loki's staff. Yeah, the Chitauri staff.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah, but that's not confirmed. And I don't like that because... It's blue, and the other one's blue. Exactly. I don't like the two blue gems crossing over. I don't like that. That would cause confusion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:12 But also, surely his staff is just channeling the power of the Tesseract. Well, that's what some people have thought also. But it can do things that... Well, I guess the Tesseract can do anything. There we go, see? God, this is confusing. But it can manipulate people's minds and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:28 So I think it is the Mind Gem. All right. I think it's a quicker way to just put another stone in the movies without making a whole movie around it. So Thanos will be like, oh, if only I had the final gem to complete the Infinity Gauntlet. Loki's like, oh, is it this one? He's like, oh, yeah, great.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Thanks. Thanks, buddy. So, yeah. I mean why i mean he i guess he gave it to loki if it is the mind gem he gave it to loki to to help him do whatever he was supposed to do
Starting point is 00:46:54 lacking conviction that's the one so you know really balls up everything really balls it up but the that staff now is in possession of hydra yeah so at the end of
Starting point is 00:47:04 captain america 2 in the post-credits spoiler, whatever, they're using it to experiment on people, and the only two who seemingly survived are Skull Witch and Quicksilver. So I guess they're using it to unlock the potential of the human mind, because I don't know if you know this, Mason, the human brain can only use 10% of its brain. But what if you were to use more than that? Who's to say?
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah. It's an infinite possibilities of nonsense and hair changing colour. Oh, hair change. And light action sequences. Yeah, yeah. Actually, in that film, what happens is at one point she changes her colour, her hair colour. She changes from curly and blonde to straight and black. And then she goes to a place and she falls unconscious.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And then she wakes up in a in a hospital and her hair is curly and blonde again and nobody none of the supporting characters are like you know what she went in she had straight black hair and then it's just kind of what happened there like nobody mentions it at all so there's a lot of plot holes mostly hair based in that film i'm just saying so get into it yeah power gem power you know that's the one in Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, that is confirmed definite. People have been... The most gravenest of the Jams.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Yes. I mean, we know where that is, obviously. Spoiler alert. Guardians, whatever. It's... It's in the Nova Corps headquarters. Yeah, yeah. Which would mean...
Starting point is 00:48:19 I did a video on this, by the way, today. Which means that that's the safest one, I guess. But, you know, you can just crash a big ship into anything and then get it. Absolutely, yeah. It's fine. Yeah. But what I found interesting, and I'm not sure whether they actually mentioned this in Guardians of the Galaxy, but the world that that was on, Morag, was it?
Starting point is 00:48:35 I can't remember. At the start. You can only get to it every 300 years because the ocean would drop. And that was how Peter Quill was able to get it. Interesting. So I thought that was a little cool. That's why he's the first one to get there for some reason exactly yeah yeah yeah because he does he's not the smartest he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer so yeah yeah he's very much
Starting point is 00:48:52 like a self-styled kind of like explorer but he's not who he thinks he is right exactly so it's just he just happened to be in the neighborhood yeah yeah okay right what a legend yeah he bloody grabbed that gem yeah he's got the right spirit for this show. Yeah. So, yeah. So, I guess that leaves only the two we haven't seen, is the Time Gem and the Soul Gem, or Stone. Yeah, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And the Soul Gem, as we've mentioned, is Adam Warlock's favourite. Yeah. The rumour is, I think... Does he wear that in his head? Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. The rumour is, I think... That's got to be, like, cancerous, surely.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Well, yeah. Because Lex Luthor used to wear a kryptonite ring and then he lost his hand yeah cancer oh not like jammed in the door oh no he was jammed in the door
Starting point is 00:49:31 you're right yeah it was jammed behind in a vending machine he's a billionaire but he's like oh my god I can get two Snickers bars
Starting point is 00:49:38 out of this thing if I just shake this just right I get that oh my hand curses I'd be like you for this Superman
Starting point is 00:49:45 that's how it started that's how it all started yeah so anyway origins yeah so the rumor is again we've seen
Starting point is 00:49:51 it's better than Smallville that's all I'm saying yeah we've seen that cocoon we saw it in Thor the Dark World we see it in Guardians of the Galaxy it's in the collector's headquarters it's a cocoon
Starting point is 00:50:00 everybody assumes Adam Warlock's in it just chilling till the time's right and I think the assumption is that somebody will use the soul gem and awaken him and he'll be like
Starting point is 00:50:08 I want a piece of that give me it yeah bloody give me it but um some people have added this to the the comments of the easter egg video yes
Starting point is 00:50:16 that at the end you see that the Adam Warlock's cocoon is burst right so again spoiler alert at the very end how the duck appears and that's like a misdirect yep
Starting point is 00:50:24 because if I and I haven't seen this again to confirm it, but behind him is a cocoon that's open. There's also rumours that he's going to be Peter Quill's father. Did we talk about that last week, maybe? Yes, we did. Because it's more interesting than just be like, oh, your dad's just like, he's like a space king. I'm an alien prince. I'm real rich and stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Look at my fleet of space yachts. Look at these space grapes I'm eating. Because that's decadent for some reason, eating lots of grapes. Yeah, it is, isn't it? Yeah. I like grapes. Yeah. I don't consider it decadent, though.
Starting point is 00:50:53 No. This is not the podcast for grapes. I disagree. I don't like grapes with seeds. Get them out of here. Okay, fine. All right? All right.
Starting point is 00:51:01 God. Okay. Because where do you put the seeds? I feel like I've got to be eating them outdoors so I can spit them into a garden. Look, I'm not arguing for... Look, we're not picking a side here. Look, we pick sides in one thing and one thing only. Karate tournaments. But I'm not going against you with these seeded grapes.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I'm also against seeded grapes. Okay, good. But you need them because otherwise how do you get more grapes? You're right. I don't know how you make grapes. Listen, back to this, back to the thing with the gems.
Starting point is 00:51:28 What were we talking about? I was just, I don't know how they make grapes but the other one was time. It's a time gem. Okay, right. Which is probably the best one, I guess.
Starting point is 00:51:36 No, no, not really. They're all pretty good because they can do anything so whatever. You know what? If I lived in a Marvel or DC universe, any time time travel came up
Starting point is 00:51:44 I'd just be like, ugh. Ugh. No. Ugh. No, thank you. Because any time it happens, all of reality is ruined. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And then you've got to put it back together again. And they always say, that's the last time we can do that because we've done too much time stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then they just do it again. Just do it again. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Well, Ant-Man's come back from the dead through time. Like that whole Avengers Age of Ultron comic. Not not the movie it's only the movie in name is based around altering time there's so much time traveling like multiple times yeah yeah somebody somebody goes back and alters time and then they go back into the new reality they're like not good enough and they go back and they all go back and alter time again it's the back to the future 2 scenario yeah which is a great movie. And they explain that really well with that chalkboard. And they draw the timelines.
Starting point is 00:52:29 That's how you do time travel, man. That's how you explain it in the movie. That's all I'm saying. Okay, fine. So, yeah. This one, though, apparently you can also de-age people and be used as a weapon to, like, trap enemies or entire universes in unending loops. Like the movie Looper. That's how you don't do time travel.
Starting point is 00:52:47 So, yeah, that would be interesting. But you bring time travel into something and it's hard to do right. Boy, is it ever. Yeah, yeah. And if we kept talking about it, we'd just be two guys in a room doing a podcast talking about time travel.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Am I right? Absolutely. So that's pretty much all the gems in a nutshell from the movies. Read all the comics if you want to know anything about them. Just all of them. Just everything. And then you'll be up to date.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Here's all the infinity gems in a nutshell. Hey, I'm the Soul Gem. I'm in a nutshell. Brilliant. Thank you. Look, like I said, Mason, I put that video up only like an hour or so ago yes
Starting point is 00:53:26 but I also wrote down a bunch of responses because I asked people which gem would you want and why so I've got about six or seven responses here
Starting point is 00:53:35 do you have a particular gem that you would want to grab not time not time okay sure you know what I'm not responsible for
Starting point is 00:53:41 I'm not responsible enough to handle any of these sure infinitely powerful gems um boy reality would be pretty good I guess sure because you could just I'm not responsible for I'm not responsible enough to handle any of these sure infinitely powerful gems um boy reality would be pretty good I guess
Starting point is 00:53:48 sure because you could just reset it back to what you wanted to anyway I mean I don't really know how it works I don't even think Malekith knows how it works
Starting point is 00:53:55 because he's just like I'm just going to blacken everything yeah do something good like yeah like fun or something
Starting point is 00:54:02 yeah what does he want to live in a weird dark pit for? The guy was such a dickhead. Right? Um, I want soul. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:12 At least some albums. I was going to say, saxophone? Yeah, definitely. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah. Look, we've all got dreams to be a greasy sax man. We do. A la The Lost Boys. So that's what I'll use my soul gem for.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You told me about the greasy sax Sax Man, John Hamm did it. Yeah. Which is pretty great. Everyone should look that up. It's pretty, pretty amazing. First find out who the Greasy Sax Man is, if you don't know, and then watch that John Hamm Greasy Sax Man video. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:35 So Epic Ninja, Epic Ninja Pancake, it's a good name, 14 says, time, because I can right my wrongs, or power to use it for good Or to get all the pussy Well that is good, right? Yes, it is The Trent Kent says Soul Also I was going to say Don't go back in time and right your mistakes
Starting point is 00:54:54 No That's weird, right? Let it go Let it ride, man Just let it breathe, man Yeah, that's it Yeah, yeah Unless your mistake was not getting enough pussy
Starting point is 00:55:01 In which case, maybe go back in time I don't know Just live your life You got that gem, so whatever Yeah The Trent kent says soul so he can be adam warlock makes sense uh-huh uh antonio agula says i would like the power stone but you know what they say with great power comes great responsibility he's taking it to a serious place and i respect that yeah because very rarely somebody gives a genuine answer so i like thank you very much antonio um it's like i'll take the mind gems you guys can shut up like that doesn't even make sense
Starting point is 00:55:30 like shut up like oh we've been told i am zed x says uh minds gem hot women there you go makes sense uh-huh it's a theme here uh better don't use your mind gem to get hot women that's bad form is it? yes you're right is it worse than the game? I would argue it's not I guess
Starting point is 00:55:53 but what yeah I don't like the game no that's you're probably right I don't like what it's about but what I love about the game is watching somebody
Starting point is 00:55:58 try to use the game seeing as everybody knows what the game is now yes girls more than guys so it's funny to watch yeah there's a lot of somebody leans in and like a subtle little bit of whispering knows what the game is now. Yes. Girls more than guys. Definitely, yeah, yeah. So it's funny to watch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:05 There's a lot of somebody leans in and like a subtle little bit of whispering and then the woman's really loud. She's like, are you negging me? And they just scuttle off back to their corner. That's pretty fun. A guy I know, I saw him do it once and he said to a girl, your ears are really big. That's not a neg, surely. That's an insult.
Starting point is 00:56:24 That's just an insult. Yeah, that's a flat-out insult. Unless he was like, Your ears are really big. They'd look better on my bedroom floor. Right? Because I'm going to tear them off? Yeah, because I'm going to tear them off.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Better Breaking says, I think I'll wield the time gem. Seeing as I already have teleportation and phasing abilities, it would only make sense for a person of my experience to have the ability to phase or teleport through time. Sounds like too much power. It does. This guy doesn't deserve the time gem, is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:56:54 Yes. Plus, I would use it to watch future Marvel films. I would love that. Just go and watch all the stuff. But who would you talk to him about? Who would you talk to about those films? I'd just do it on the podcast. I'd just spoil it, it like years in advance.
Starting point is 00:57:05 You're a monster. Yeah. You're not allowed to have any of these gems. I've decided. Well, I wasn't going to grab one anyway. Right, yeah. Sharpie Choudhury. C-H-O-U-D.
Starting point is 00:57:22 How do you pronounce that? Choudhury. Yep. Yeah. The Power Gem. So I can kill Nick Mason. Lol jokes. Chodehurry C-H-O-U-D How do you pronounce that? Chodehurry Yep Yeah The Power Gem So I can kill Nick Mason Lol jokes Don't worry about it
Starting point is 00:57:30 I was worried for a second there But you could kill him Why just me? Why not you as well? You know what? Last week I Oh we should have
Starting point is 00:57:38 We should do some sort of tally Of how many threats of murder we get Look Like each week You know what though Let's see who's winning You get a lot of compliments And I feel bad because I don't bring them up. I'm not like, this guy says you're really funny and likes you.
Starting point is 00:57:50 But I should. I think next week I'm going to compile a list. Nah, it keeps me on my toes. Of compliments. Okay. And murders. We'll see who wins. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Murder threats and compliments. Good. Yeah. This last one, Chewcock. Spelled C-H-E-W space K-O-K. How you live your life. Sure. Time, so I can travel back in time to get a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:58:10 All right, that is a responsible use of the time, Jim. It is. Totally fine, yeah. And also, what you want to, because if you go to Subway, you don't want to get there like 4 p.m., you know, when the bread's all, it's all stale or whatever. I don't think it is bread at any point of the day. It's a good point, actually. But when it's warm.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So go back in time for that. When it's damp. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Fair point. All right. So I guess that's all we really got to say about those gems.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Look, as they develop, I guess, as we find out more about them, we'll bring them into the news and we'll keep track of the Mason. Yep. There's also people... More and more confusing with every succeeding week. You know it is. People have been saying that maybe avengers 3 yes if it's not it could be a guardians crossover as well but maybe they'll do like civil war and then they'll save avengers guardians crossover for later and then they'll battle thanos together because that makes sense because
Starting point is 00:58:59 you want to get the avengers in on the than. I mean, the Guardians. I'm sure you can calculate it by how many films every actor has left on their contract. Okay, yeah, yeah. Good point. We won't do it now. No. Somebody can do it. Somebody better than us. We'll wait for that AV Club article.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yes, that's right. And just read it. Well, you know what it's time for, Mason. What's it time for? What we reading? What we gonna read? Okay, I'm ready. Were we saying it together?
Starting point is 00:59:23 I don't remember. Didn't we just do that? Like... I felt that was in unison. You didn't say anything. No? Okay, I'm ready. Were we saying it together? I don't remember. Didn't we just do that? Like... I felt that was in unison. You didn't say anything. No, no, I did. It was so in unison that you didn't even notice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yeah. I'm doing the thing. I'll tell you what I'm going to be reading this week. Yeah. Joel Price on the internet from the Twitters at Heisenberg underscore S. Yeah. He has created... Who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Who is he about? He's a friend of the show. Excellent. Go on. And Tech Wizard. And I say that because he's done something that we can't do. Because we're technologically incapable of doing. He's created a Weekly Planet subreddit.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Oh, yeah. On reddit.com, which you can find at reddit.com slash r slash weeklyplanetpodcast. Now, to be clear, we don't know how Reddit works. Is that right? No, that's right. We're afraid of it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Because it was created after... We were born. After we were born, exactly, yeah. Don't trust nothing. I don't trust nothing after the gramophone, essentially. So, yeah. So, what... Can I don't trust nothing after the gramophone, essentially. So, yeah. So, can people keep track of the show there, I guess?
Starting point is 01:00:29 I'll be honest, there's nothing on it right now. Yeah, well, why would there be? So, essentially, the world is our oyster. In a way, it is. Yeah, so I would say... An empty, hollow oyster. Yeah, I mean, just get on there, create the content. Again, don't know how Reddit works.
Starting point is 01:00:42 We should get on there, we'll say hi. Absolutely, we will. And so on and so forth. And maybe just put some death threats up there. Yes. Because I want that count to go as high as possible. Please. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:51 It gives you incentive to be better at karate. Yeah, definitely. Keep you on your toes. Yeah. As if I could be better at karate. I guess. You're the best at karate. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Yeah. I guess if you're a fan of Kick-Ass, you probably want to check out the finale. Look, it's standard Kick-Ass stuff. I read it. I've been loosely following it. I think it kind of peaked in the first series, to be honest. It was okay. But it's all kind of the same.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And yet you're just chipping away at it. Chipping away. Well, it's done. I'm not going to not read it, you know. So it's done forever. Until Kick-Ass 4. Yes. Chipping away. Well, it's done. I'm not going to not read it, you know. So, it's done forever. So, look. Until Kick-Ass 4. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Yeah. Right. But they say that this is it. This is, you know, that this is it. So, you know, if you've been following the universe and you like seeing the similar thing happen again and again. Yeah. And I don't mean, that sounds like an insult.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And it is. Yeah. But, like, it's very much in keeping with the rest of the Kick-ass movies and TV shows and comics, because there is no TV show. Yeah. And those read-along records where you've got a book and a record. Absolutely. I'm going to recommend something else though, Mason. First of all, I'm going to read The Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:01:59 By read, I mean audiobook, because I downloaded it and I want to listen to it. You're a Cormac McCarthy guy? I am, yeah, yeah. Your family loves those The Roads. They do you love you love reading them they're discussing them as a family weirdly because you're all weird survivalists we are yeah yeah we have that shopping cart we eat that human arm all that stuff all those things you're always pushing each other across the road in a shopping cart and then switching now i want to be in the shopping cart and you switch so yeah my older
Starting point is 01:02:25 brother in particular he loves it hello if you're listening but i'm going to recommend something that i which i accidentally discovered on uh comiXology it's called Mayflower and it's by Levi Hoffmeier and this guy i i read through it's one issue at the moment it's 99 cents well worth it he um self-published and wrote and did the art for this particular comic and it was it was it was on it was on like new submissions on comics comicsology and the cover appealed to me so i'm like i'm gonna i'm gonna check that out yeah so basically gorilla on it that a gorilla that's right it has it's basically without you know spoiling it there's a man who happens to be flying by a particular terrorist attack in the future and then he's kind of mistakenly blamed for
Starting point is 01:03:03 for that yep and then this kind of series of unfortunate events transpires and he crashes in this kind of nature preserve and that's pretty and then some other things happen whatever i'm not going to spoil it but that's where issue one is at and i think he said it's going to be something like 36 issues interesting and i just find it really impressive that this guy has and i read the blurb at the back or his little speech speech about and he was saying look you know he got to the point where he was you know he wasn't sure where he was going to take it and and blah blah blah and then he just he decided that look if i'm going to do
Starting point is 01:03:33 this i can do this myself so he did and it's it's really really good and really i mean it's one issue but it's really really promising is that has that been released by image or something no no he's doing it independently there's a cover there so wow that looks good? No, no, he's doing it independently. There's a cover there. Wow, that looks good. I know, right? He's good. He's got some skills. By the way, he has not reached out to me. I do not know this guy at all.
Starting point is 01:03:51 This isn't like a weird plug or anything. I just thought... I'd like a guy who does something like that. Yeah, yeah, totally. 99 cents. Check it out. Yeah, yeah. That's what we're reading for this week.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Also... I said that's what we're reading. No, no, no! If we're talking about sort of Comet McCarthy post-apocalyptic kind of things, I'm also going to check out Snowpiercer. Oh, yeah, that's right. Apparently that's good.
Starting point is 01:04:11 You've seen that, right? It's fucking amazing. There you go. Not for everybody. No? In what sense? It's weird. It's real weird.
Starting point is 01:04:17 In what sense? Off-putting, like the world doesn't actually, it doesn't make sense as a proper real world. Oh, it's surreal. It's kind of surreal. It's surreal, but it's not it doesn't make sense as a proper real world oh it's surreal it's surreal but in a it's good i really really enjoyed it it's a guy did the host remember the host i love the host yeah this is great so i highly recommend i might be the last person in the world to get on board with this like maybe everybody's seen it but i'm gonna check it out
Starting point is 01:04:38 yeah yeah it was like limited release i said bloody blah but uh yeah and chris evans is great in that and that was filmed like a couple years ago and it's just been kind of sitting on the shelf and they were going to edit it right down and then they didn't
Starting point is 01:04:49 end up doing it because there was fan outcry and whatever and it's a very interesting movie it's kind of it's kind of Terry Gilliam-ish
Starting point is 01:04:57 I guess but I don't love Terry Gilliam no I've got mixed feelings about Terry Gilliam also but yeah I think it's great and also
Starting point is 01:05:04 if you're listening if you're watching it at home it's great and also if you're listening if you're watching at home it's not for everybody give it 10 minutes if you're like this is fucking weird and whatever turn it off
Starting point is 01:05:11 don't watch it next week I'll keep you updated on whether I turn it off after 10 minutes yeah yeah I think you'll enjoy it alright Mason
Starting point is 01:05:17 that's what we're reading for this week thank you thank you alright few letters but before we get to those
Starting point is 01:05:23 Laura Jane Gerstel has donated $10 to the show Thank you Via our Weclithunit.bandcamp.com Oh we've got the audio commentaries Audio commentaries Hopefully we're going to be doing some
Starting point is 01:05:31 In the very near future Absolutely But you know We might not Because We might release 10 in a week We may Never release one ever again
Starting point is 01:05:40 No We will No Yes So thank you Laura Jane But the official Unreliable source toby i mentioned before he was the trailers guy he donated uh ninety dollars i've transferred you
Starting point is 01:05:52 some of that money also mason i look four dollars that's right so yeah you have to accept that paypal i will thing thank you and then well no thank, no. Thank you. No, just you. Did not Toby? No, Toby. That's who I meant. Okay, cool. But he sent a very interesting letter and it's kind of a long one
Starting point is 01:06:10 so I've taken like some bits out of it but this is pretty much it in its entirety. Normally I don't read an entire letter but this is, I think it's quite interesting. And a challenge. Yeah, and a challenge for me, exactly. But I've been practicing, Mason. Oh, you're reading.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Audiobooks. Oh yeah, good point. Okay. I've listened to one of the episodes, you're reading. Audiobooks. Oh, yeah. Good point. Okay. I've listened to one of the episodes. I'm going to start this again. I've listened to every one of them. That's such a good start. Leave this in.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Leave this in. I've listened to every one of the episodes at least three times. Some of them four or five. Some of them are... Since most of your episodes are longer than an hour, and this last one was your 45th episode, that means that I've listened to well over 135 hours of youtube bullshitting about all the stuff i love to bullshit about love it that's cool as much as i enjoyed it i can't help worry that it's affected
Starting point is 01:06:56 me in some subtle but negative way and that it makes sense yeah sure and it won't and it may one day lead to my doom probably probably. Not wanting to suffer alone, I've tried to get my friends to start listening, but they haven't because my friends are a bunch of C-bombs. He said the word there, but I don't know. Is that the line of the show, I guess? No, say it. Next time. Next time.
Starting point is 01:07:15 We'll just know for next time, it's fine. Sure, okay. I don't like to use that word in real life. I'm not against it. By C-bombs, you mean depth charges? That's exactly what I mean. Right, okay, right. Like, I do use it, but I only drop it
Starting point is 01:07:25 when I really mean it. Do you know what I mean? Well, I'd say this is the same. I'd say his friends are a bunch of bloody depth charges. You know what I mean? I recently gave $90
Starting point is 01:07:34 to the show via your band camp and no, thank you, I know, right? No, that was not a mistake. The money is payment for making me laugh
Starting point is 01:07:39 like an idiot while listening to the show on the subway or at work or when making dinner. Or at the subway. Yes, that's right. Subway restaurant. You've earned it uh that being said eat fresh eat for all your way we're not gonna be sluggish yeah they're too sluggish yeah that pick one jerks at subway yeah i mean thanks for the sponsorship thanks that being said it comes with restrictions on how
Starting point is 01:08:03 you get to spend it. Three restrictions, Mason. You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. One, as a man with many vendettas, he does sound like a man with many vendettas, I'm pleased to hear about people getting what they deserve. The money should mostly be used to get back at pricks that no doubt have done something to you personally and will have no idea why they're on the receiving end of your wrath. Love it.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Absolutely. I'm going to firebomb a Subway restaurant. Two, alcohol. Alcohol two alcohol 30 of these funds should be spent on alcohol for you both to drink while planning the aforementioned wrath love it me too because that's the best way to plan some wrath absolutely haphazardly haphazardly leave a lot of loose ends leave a lot of evidence lying around i say don't wait to sober up make your plan get out there that's right run into the night
Starting point is 01:08:46 live your life grab that gem that's right get real sourced and grab an infinity gem three keeping the show on air remember I've listened
Starting point is 01:08:54 to all the podcasts I remember when Nick was reading those ads for that book service books maybe for nerds oh yeah we did do that didn't we we did the audible.com
Starting point is 01:09:01 oh somebody also wrote in and was like never sell out or whatever just so people know we will sell out yeah we sold out quite early it's only the fact that, didn't we? We did the audible.com. Oh, somebody also wrote in and was like, never sell out or whatever. Just so people know, we will sell out. Yeah, we sold out quite early. It's only the fact that people haven't offered us more things to sell out to that we haven't. But we will.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Absolutely, we will. You know, we got 100,000 downloads last month. I mean, you know that, but that's incredible. I got real excited. I thought you were going to say, you know, we got $100,000. I don't know. Why would you leave it this far into the podcast to mention that? I wouldn't even tell you.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I'd just disappear. You'd just never see me again. Yeah, yeah. Books may be for nerds, but I fucking love them. And here, Nick, reading those ads made me want to burn down a library. Ha ha! Keep putting all those commentaries on your fans that can afford it. We'll keep paying for them.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I mean, if you're going to compromise your artistic integrity, it may as well be for us, right? He does make a good point. Yeah, look, if we get enough money from people, sure, well, I guess we'll never sell out. We probably will sell out. Because I feel better about taking ad revenue money than people's money. Good point, yeah. Take it from the man.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Absolutely. That's it. Celebrity story, Mason. Oh, boy. This is part of this. Okay. I hope you're familiar with the TV show Full House. Boy, yes.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah. Yeah. Big here in the 90s, wasn't it? Yes. I thought that was the funniest show in the world. Like last week. And now you still think it's the funniest show in the world. That's it.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Uh-huh. Before I worked in Hollywood... Bob Saget was just here doing a stand-up. Was he? Stand-up tour, yeah. I've never seen it. Have you seen his stand-up before? You're a comedy guy.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Yeah, it's pretty good. It's like, I mean, it's like dirty. I feel like he gets by on being crass. Yeah, he's kind of crass. I'm subverting your expectations. He's like, he's quite genial and he's kind of crass and it's kind of, it's solid, you know, it's all right. All right, cool.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I hope you're familiar with the show Full House. Before I worked in Hollywood, I worked in a hotel in Santa Barbara, California. I worked at the front desk and recently seen the Bob Saget comedy special. There we go. Exactly. Where he talks about Dave Coulier. Is that how you say it? Dave Coulier.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Who was the Joey. Uncle Joey. Some people know this. Why am I explaining? It talks about how Dave Coulier shaves his balls and says that if you see him, to mention it to him. Lo and behold, Dave Coulier walked in with some friends one night. At one point, Dave walks up to me and asks me to look up some info for him.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And as I'm looking for this information, I tell him not to let Bob Saget get him down because a lot of people shave their balls. He was not pleased. That's the spirit. He yelled at my manager and his dickhead friends joined in and said I was rude to them, basically using the incident as an excuse for two free rooms. Two days later, my boss used it as an excuse to fire me. End of story.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Nope. The best part coming up. Hello. All right. Three months later, I was walking out the Four Seasons down the road. He's all right. He's getting... He's doing okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:42 He's doing all right. Well, for now. This takes a turn. Okay. Celebrity wedding. Celebrity wedding happening. road he's all right he's getting he's doing okay yeah he's doing all right well for now this takes a turn okay celebrity wedding celebrity wedding i was murdered by dave coulier working together with jody sweeten also from full house which one's that can't remember doesn't matter yeah celebrity wedding happening i'm part of the catering crew and i'm working behind the bar where none other than bob saget and john stamos sit down in front of me. I like John Stamos. He's pretty fucking cool.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I think we can tie this in because he used to be married to Rebecca Romijn. It was mystique. So I think pop culturally this is fine. Absolutely. Also, he was mentioned in Guardians of the Galaxy. Remember when he's like, my world is full of outlaws. And he names like Billy the Killer and John Stamos. I tell them that I have to tell them a story, Like, my world is full of outlaws. And he names like Billy the Killer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I tell them that I have to tell them a story, but they aren't interested until I say about how I took Bob's advice and Dave Coulier got me fired. I tell them the story and they both just stare at me and then start cracking up. Bob asked me what I thought was going to happen and John said that this is why nobody who knows Bob ever takes his advice. We all have a shot of tequila and agree that Dave Coulier is a real dickhead. Isn't he the guy in the Alanis Morissette song as well? I was just going to say that.
Starting point is 01:12:50 He's the subject of the song You Oughta Know by Alanis Morissette. That's so weird. Isn't it though? My boss overheard the entire encounter and later yelled at me for drinking on the job. I guess that's fair. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. But you don't have to yell at people though.
Starting point is 01:13:04 This guy's made some choices. But you know what? You don't have to yell at people. There's a better way to handle things. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I'm sure. But you don't have to yell at people though. This guy's made some choices. But you know what? You don't have to yell at people. There's a better way to handle things. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Two weeks later, the summer season ends and I'm the only summer employee that gets fired
Starting point is 01:13:14 instead of becoming full-time. Long story short, the only two times I've ever been fired have been a direct result of an encounter with the three main actors from Full House. Wow. So there you go. That's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 01:13:27 He's got a quick shout-out as well. He's recommending the comic Atomic Robot. It's the best comic I've read in the last ten years. I really enjoy Atomic Robot. Oh, you've read it? Okay. Wait, Atomic Robo. Is that his name?
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yep, sorry. There we go. That's right, Atomic Robo. That's my fault. I can best describe the series as a bastard lovechild of Hellboy and GLaDOS from the Portal games. I highly recommend you read it if you get the chance. Secondly, I'd like to rejoin the prestigious ranks as official friend of the show.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Now, I know most of your friends of the show have to contribute something to the actual show. Not true. You can do whatever. I've already given you $90. Just send a death threat. Yeah, yeah. What else do you want from me, you greedy sons of bitches? Well, I've made the email address.
Starting point is 01:14:04 He actually took the unreliable source email address. He actually took the Unreliable Source email address. And I'm declaring myself the official Unreliable Source. I love it. What a bloody legend. Love it. So there you go. So thank you, Toby. Sounds great.
Starting point is 01:14:13 You're a good dude. If anybody has any other 90s sitcom horrific stories, if you ever got punched in the face by, you know, Jaleel White from Family Matters, that'd be great to hear about that. If Patrick Duffy from Step by Step gave you a wedgie, we want to know about it. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Look, we appreciate money, don't we Mason? We bloody love it. But as we said also, if you can't donate for whatever reason, which is fine, never donate at all. Maybe tell a friend, be like, I like this podcast.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Maybe you can listen to it. I mean, don't tell them right away. That would be weird. Tell them right away. Okay. Stop what you're doing. Call people. Yes. Yep. to it. I mean, don't tell them right away. That would be weird. Tell them right away. Okay. Stop what you're doing. Call people. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Yep. So, yeah, yeah. Send out a mass text. Yeah. It's hard to get people on board for podcasts, though, I find. Really? Yeah. Because I often, like, people recommend and go, no, no, I'll get around to it.
Starting point is 01:14:57 I've had Alec Baldwin's podcast in my, like, iTunes for, like, ages. And it's downloaded, but I just haven't. It's hard, man. It is, boys. So, we appreciate just haven't. It's hard, man. It is, boys. So we appreciate all and anything. Right? Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Now, Mason. Yes? I hate to call you on this, but you told me to call you on it. You said last week that you were going to create a comic book character. Superhero character story, yeah. Yes. Yep. Oh, you ready?
Starting point is 01:15:17 No. I thought about it. I'll tell you what, though. I can kick you off, though. Liam wrote in. He said, I was listening to some old episodes. Number seven, Why Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sucks
Starting point is 01:15:25 I remember that I remember that yeah And you made up a character Called Night Dark Thought you could use this In your weekly character Building by Mason I have no memory of that
Starting point is 01:15:34 It was like I think we were talking About like Who's the kind of Grimace superhero Oh right sure I might be wrong I haven't listened to him
Starting point is 01:15:42 In a while But yeah Does that help No Is this the end of This weekly segment No it's gonna happen Oh, right, sure. I might be wrong. I haven't listened to it in a while. Yeah. Does that help? No. Is this the end of this week? No, it's going to happen. It's going to happen, all right? But just not this week?
Starting point is 01:15:53 Not this week. So are we going to go with the name Night Dark? No. Okay. Yes. For now. And then I'll change it next week, too. Thank you, Liam, for reminding us of that thing,
Starting point is 01:16:01 even though Mason does not want to take your advice. Look, I'll take all my own bad advice. Thank you. All right. Hello, James and Mason. I'm a big fan from Canada, and I'm undergoing a challenge on your behalf. I've decided to listen to every episode of the Weekly Planet and record each official member of the podcast.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Somebody's doing it. Amazing. Upon completing this task, I will send you the list and will earn the title of official ... How do you say the Utah name? Utah the Watcher? How do you say that? I say Uatu. Uatu.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Is that how you say it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. It's one of those things, you know, I only read it in my head. Like Segway. Exactly. Like Segways. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Also, could my friend Ben Ross be the official Paul Dano of the podcast? Sure. Without his permission. Well, Paul Dano hasn't emailed in or anything. He certainly hasn't. You lost out, Paul Dano hasn't emailed in or anything. He certainly hasn't. You lost out, Paul Dano. Dano. Dano.
Starting point is 01:16:47 I guess we're at the point also where people can just name anybody the official anything. You don't have to know them. That's fine. No. You have to know them. Is that fair? And then you can official name them something. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Okay. Yeah. You have to know them personally. That's the rule. Yeah. I mean, there's no way for us to know that you know them personally. One last thing. Have you guys seen the television show Rake?
Starting point is 01:17:04 It's been, it's wonderful and I've been watching it in this podcast. I've started developing an them personally. Yeah. One last thing. Have you guys seen the television show Rake? It's been, it's wonderful and I've been watching it in this podcast. I've started developing an Australian accent. Fantastic. Thank you, Daniel, Daniel Dector, who sent that in.
Starting point is 01:17:12 You love Rake, the TV series. Well, I do love Rake until the third season. I thought the whole third season was going to be set in this. Didn't Rake go to jail? Rake went to jail.
Starting point is 01:17:20 That's what it was called. But he's only in jail for like an episode and then he gets out and then just kind of the same kind of wacky shenanigans. And at the end, it ends with his leg getting caught in a rope on a hot air balloon. And he flies over Sydney Harbour. So I'm kind of like, oh, that's a shame. That got wacky real quick.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Yeah. Because that is a good show. And look, even though it goes that way at the end, it's interesting. Right. Rake, of course, for those who haven't seen it, it's a sort of a... He's a scumbag lawyer. Yeah, yeah. He's a smooth scumbag lawyer. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:17:47 And it's Richard Roxburgh. Richard Roxburgh. Who people will know as... A bunch of stuff. A bunch of stuff. Which I'll get to that in a second. Okay. Because I've got an email that ties into that.
Starting point is 01:17:56 But also there's a bit in Rake and I know exactly the point where it jumps the shark. He goes to like a wedding of his ex-wife. I can spoil this because it's an Australian TV show who gives a shit. And it's the only... You'll never find it spoil this because it's an Australian TV show who gives a shit and it's the only you'll never find it anyway it's the only
Starting point is 01:18:07 Australian TV show it must be on deep deep cable in the US it must be it's probably an HBO you can get it on Pirate Boy if you're interested but there's a scene
Starting point is 01:18:15 where he goes to his ex-wife's wedding of her new husband and then he calls the ex-husband out for being like a drug dealer or whatever and the ex-husband pulls a gun out of his tuxedo
Starting point is 01:18:23 sure a wedding gun he just had a gun on him at his wedding like it's just so yeah anyway thank you Daniel but Niall N-I-A-L-L
Starting point is 01:18:31 that's Niall isn't it sure or Niall's like from Fraser if Niall's from Fraser has punched you in the face please please email in
Starting point is 01:18:38 yeah official Weekly Planet podcast Jack O'Lantern brackets lose a DC version rather than the second rate Green Goblin knockoff Marvel villain.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Okay, cool. I didn't even know there was a DC version. There is, yes. That's brilliant. Richard Roxburgh has done a surprising amount of comic book roles. Yes. Some are not great. Most are not great.
Starting point is 01:18:56 All are not great. All are not great. League of Astronomy Gentlemen. Yep. Van Helsing. Yep. Which I guess is a comic book. Mission Impossible 2.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Oh, yeah. Okay, right. Yeah, yeah. Rake. Yep. Moulin rouge the sniveling bad guy guy in moulin rouge he says what would be the perfect comic book role for the australian national treasure richard roxburgh do you remember we were watching the richard roxburgh show a few years ago and we invented that he has slept on a magical bunk bed. Bunk bed, yeah, and they solved crimes together. We should put that up.
Starting point is 01:19:27 You still have that, right? Bunky the bunk bed. You should put that up on the Weekly Planet. I will. It's not going to make sense to anybody but us. No, but we had a lot of fun. We laughed for months. We really did, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:36 But yeah, any comic book role, what do you think? I know as well he did those roles for money. It was just like, yeah, I get to travel and do stuff. Yeah, exactly. It's a good thing, man. Yeah, okay, so I don't to travel and do stuff. Yeah, exactly. It's a good man, man. Yeah, okay. So not... I don't like snivelling Richard Roxburgh, but good old-fashioned Aussie Richard Roxburgh.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Yeah, yeah. Some sort of adventurer kind of character. Okay. DC detective King Faraday. Okay. Awesome. Look that up. I think that would totally work for that guy.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Do you think he could John Constantine? Yes, he could. Yeah, okay. That's a good one as well. Yeah, yeah. He's versatile, that guy. He is. And he deserves a role that's a good one as well yeah yeah he's versatile that guy he is and he deserves a role
Starting point is 01:20:06 that's actually good for once yeah but it's too late for Constantine because he's well they're still doing the Justice League Dark thing and that's not connected to the whatever
Starting point is 01:20:15 interesting okay yeah just a thought alright Richard rocks before Constantine that's right hashtag let's get that trending
Starting point is 01:20:21 it's worked before it's never worked it's never ever worked for anything. This last one is from Brent M. It's a suggestion. I'm going to add this after the show. This is just in response to our speculation on Stan Lee's cameo in Guardians of the Galaxy.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I thought you might want to know what Stan Lee's up to nowadays if you didn't know already. There are literally dozens of these and they're all amazing. Basically, what he's sending is a link to something called Stan Lee Rants, where Stan Lee just rants. Uh-huh. And they're all amazing. Basically, what he's sending is a link to something called Stanley Rants, where Stanley just rants. And they're amazing. And I don't know whether he writes them or somebody else does. I don't care. It's not the point.
Starting point is 01:20:54 What is he ranting about? I'm not even going to say it. I'll show you. But just listen after we say, see you guys. You're going to put it in a Stanley rant. I'll put it in. Put it in a classic Stanley rant. Your fave? Is it going to be your fave?
Starting point is 01:21:04 It's the one that he sent me specifically. Okay, great. And I think it is. Well, I'll put it in Put it in a classic Stanley Rand Your fave? Is it going to be your fave? Or is it the weirdest one? It's the one that he sent me specifically Okay great And I think it is Well I haven't seen them all But yeah I'm looking forward to it It's pretty bloody great Mason
Starting point is 01:21:10 Great It's as good as any of Richard Roxburgh's roles Huh Not hard though Except for Rake So yeah That I guess is the show for this week Love it
Starting point is 01:21:20 Yeah a little bit shorter But that's okay because Who cares The cracks start to form That's right And show Love it. Yeah, a little bit shorter, but that's okay because... Who cares? The cracks start to form and show. So where can they contact us? They can find us on our... At Weekly Planet Pod. At Facebook, Twitter and Gmail.
Starting point is 01:21:35 I'm at Wikipedia Brown. I'm at MrSunnyMovies. I don't tweet a lot. But I'll tweet back at you. You were tweeting a lot though, weren't you? Yeah. But you will... Go in and out.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Yeah, yeah. I'll tweet back at you. Say hi. Yeah, yeah. It's been a big week for you, hasn't you? Yeah. But you will... Go in and out. Yeah, yeah. I'll tweet back at you. Say hi. Yeah, yeah. It's been a big week for you, hasn't it? No. No, just regular. Just regular week.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Cool. Excellent. So yeah, contact us with show ideas next week. Unfortunately, we are doing... You're at Mr. Sunday Movies. Oh yeah, I am. I am. On YouTube and whatever also.
Starting point is 01:22:00 We're going to do The Expendables 3. What? I was not informed about this. Hang on, let me put on a pair of glasses now tell me again we're going to do Expendables 3 we're what
Starting point is 01:22:11 you couldn't say that but I was dramatically whipping off a pair of glasses so when is that out next week this week well it's also
Starting point is 01:22:18 leaked online oh we should I can just watch it no because we're good guys okay oh I get it. Right, we are.
Starting point is 01:22:26 So, yeah, look, we'll probably do, like, probably another new savvy one and then kind of briefly talk about it, I guess. Well, depending. It might be amazing. But also, I want to talk about... I think we can talk about The Expendables 3 for an hour. Sure, yeah. Even if we just go through each character and we name what catchphrase from their past
Starting point is 01:22:42 they use and what kind of gun they fire into the air. Oh, by the way, we're just going to spoil it. I'm not spoiling it. There'd be nothing to spoil, right? Yeah, exactly. I'm actually kind of looking forward to it. Having never seen an Expendables film. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:22:56 All right, let's do this. So there you go. Do you think it'll make sense if we haven't seen one or two? It's going to be tough. Because I think in this one, Stallone doesn't have that dumb goatee. Oh, yeah, then we won't understand what's going on. But I think he's this one Stallone doesn't have that dumb goatee oh yeah then we won't understand but I think he's got the beret
Starting point is 01:23:07 oh then we're back in great so look forward to that everybody so you know come back but we don't we won't blame you if you don't
Starting point is 01:23:16 if you never return sure alright alright everybody have an excellent week thanks for listening Stanley rant coming up here it is here we go Alright, alright. Everybody have an excellent week. Thanks for listening. Stanley rant coming up. Here it is.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Here we go. Fuck's sake. Bad characters, bad costumes, and bad taste. Dance brains. There's something that's so obvious. Everybody, anybody should have thought of it. Of course I'm talking about pole dancing. Why am I ranting, you say? What am I complaining about? I'll tell you. Why isn't pole dancing an Olympic event? They have everything else, all sorts of gymnastics, dancing around that pole and hugging it and swinging on it and doing all those things. That's like the sexiest gymnastics of all. We love it. Everybody loves it.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Get with it, Olympics committee. Get with the 21st century. Look around you. Look how everybody loves pole dancers. I want a pole dancing event at the olympics and let me tell you it'll probably be the most watched and the most popular event of all that's an order do it What? What the hell? I mean, he makes a great point, but what the hell, Stanley? How do you even know what that is?
Starting point is 01:24:53 People must write that for him, right? Yeah. I guess we're back. We're still recording? Yeah. Okay. Well, we never stop recording. Good point.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Yeah, we just document our lives here. Yeah, yeah. Well, good on him for sitting at a desk and saying some stuff that's great I'm very much looking forward to seeing what else
Starting point is 01:25:11 he's putting out there there's a few of them okay alright let's go for real this time alright see you listeners bye
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