The Weekly Planet - 464 DCU Slate Reveal & Knock At The Cabin (with Michelle Brasier)

Episode Date: February 6, 2023

HUGE episode this week. Special guest Michelle Brasier (Aunty Donna, Average Bear, stunt work) drops by to talk about Fast X plus M. Night Shyamalan's latest movie, Knock At The Cabin. But before that we get into the James Gunn and Peter Safran reveal of the first chapter in the DCU, Gods & Monsters. From Superman Legacy to Batman: The Brave & The Bold, from Supergirl: Woman Of Tomorrow to The Authority. We break it all down in addition to some more dumb sh!t Netflix is doing. Thanks for listening!Find info for all of Michelle Brasier's live shows and much, much more at https://www.michellebrasier.com/Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.00:00 The Start02:24 Netflix Are Cowards08:22 Squid Game in Real Life Disaster12:46 Pennyworth Cancelled16:44 DCU TV Shows & Batgirl Movie Details20:13 Breakdown of the New DCU Slate Reveal01:06:06 The Fast & Furious Franchise with Michelle Brasier01:24:58 Knock at the Cabin Review (spoilers 01:41:19 to 01:50:46)01:50:46 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read02:02:38 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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No, don't. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always, my co-host Nick Mason. I should have said interruptions. That would have been very meta. What a meta start to the podcast. Well, it would have been, but it's not. It's just a normal start. You want to go again? No. Yeah, no, I don't want to go again. You want to go again, mate?

You want to go? You want to go, bro? Mason, it's such a big week for multiple things. Yes. And I'll tell you why. Why? We're going to do the news of the week. I just agreed, but I didn't know why, so I'm asking why.

No, no, it's true. You need to listen to this, all right? So we're going to talk about- I refuse. The goings on Netflix. Oh, yeah. Password sharing and the like. We're going to talk about...

Those cowards over at Netflix. Exactly. We got them. We got them. We got them and we're ready. Then we're going to talk a little bit about the real-life squid game that Netflix are also making at the moment. And you're not going to believe this, Mason.

The real-life squid game that they're filming has turned into a real-life squid game, if you know what I mean. Oh, my God. We're going to go through all the DCU stuff which has been announced. Probably't been that much announced it's too many i'm looking at this and i'm like this is a lot but that's good because it's exciting content it is actually there's a lot of really interesting stuff here and then a special guest is going to make their way into the show later on yeah i hope they don't slither their way i know typical of them obviously but michelle brazier is coming by because we're going to talk about Fast and Furious.

Yeah. Because she's a massive fan of the franchise and a romp in general. And then, of course, Knock It to the Cabin. We all watched a Knock It to the Cabin. The latest. So, yeah, we're going to get all into that. So it's actually a big week. Huge week.

It's actually a huge week. Also, we will talk about this later, but Michelle's got a number of things going on, tours going on. If you don't recognize her. She's got so many things going on. She's got so many things going on. She's got too many things going on, which we'll get into. It made us feel inadequate, so we just shouted at her. We pre-recorded it. We just.

That's right. She's touring? She's touring. She's going to be various places. If you go to her website, which again I'll plug later, but michellebrager.com slash tour, you might know her from Aunty Donna. You might know her from her Paramount stand-up special. You might know her from many things that she has been

and continues to be in. You might know her from real life. Yeah, you might know her. I mean, I don't. I'll know her when she arrives. That's right. And then we'll all know each other. That's right.

That's right. All right, Mason, let's get into it. Now, this is via streamable. Netflix, for a time this week, moved forward with their plan to stop password sharing. Now, as we know, they feel like that there's an estimated 100 million Netflix users worldwide that are not using their own logins to watch Netflix.

They're password sharing. They went to an Airbnb and they forgot to sign out, which I've done. Maybe there's some kids at college using their parents' logins. log in disgusting i just want to say that's disgusting maybe you're in a relationship with someone and you gave them the the login and then you broke up and they haven't changed it you've always thought about changing it but you're waiting for the perfect time to get them exactly like they they you see that there's a new season of their favorite show about to come out on netflix and you're like now's the perfect time. You season four, not for you. That's right.

Absolutely, yeah. So their idea was initially that you have to be on the same Wi-Fi if you want to log into the same account or your account will be blocked. Now Netflix accounts, they can still be shareable again, but it has to be within one household. And to ensure that your device is associated with the primary location, Netflix is now asking users to connect to the Wi-Fi at the primary location, open up the Netflix app or website, and watch something at least every 31 days.

Now, you might ask, how does that apply if you go literally anywhere else? What if you're on the train or whatever and you want to watch it on your phone? What if you're on the toilet? What if you're on the toilet? But you have such an expansive estate that the toilet, it's such an old building that the toilet is an outhouse and it's one mile from your estate. You've got two IP addresses while you're doing a big IP.

Mason, thank you. But what if you're, so what they said is, well, if you want to use, say, Netflix, for example, in a hotel TV or a company laptop or whatever, you can then request a temporary code from the service when signing in and that will give you access to the account for seven consecutive days. Now, after this was all ruled out, by the way, fucking hate this. Terrible.

Sounds like work, too many steps. They should learn a lesson from Blockbuster, the company that they killed, without data practices. And Blockbuster should have learned a lesson from Blockbuster, the company that they killed without data practices. And Blockbuster should have learned a lesson from all the local video stores that they killed, which is there's always someone bigger, but they didn't. There's always someone ready to kill you. That's right. And all those local video stores should have learned a lesson from me, a guy who rented videos, which is I'm never going to rewind those tapes. So stop asking.

All right. Exactly. But stop asking, all right? Exactly. But anyway, so all this happened. Yeah. And then as of I think it was around Wednesday, they put out a statement that said, actually, for a brief time yesterday, I helped send an article containing information that this was actually

only applicable in Chile, Costa Rica, and Peru. So that went live to all countries. And that's actually a mistake. This is in a statement via Streamable. So if you're in like the US, UK, Australia, Canada, other places in the world that aren't those three I mentioned, then this was actually a mistake. It was a mistake and a joke, actually.

You took this the wrong way. We're pranked, you actually. We're lighthearted and known for our pranks over at Netflix. Also, and just as you were saying before, it's an extra step. Yeah. And it's just encouraging piracy because piracy is an extra step too. Piracy is an extra step. Netflix, and as has been pointed out this week numerous times,

Netflix somehow does the top brass at Netflix are somehow not aware that the only reason a lot of people use Netflix is it is slightly easier than pirating. Yep. And if as soon as it isn't, people will stop using it. Yeah. So what were they thinking here? Somebody – oh, it was Justice Smith, the actor,

who's worked for Netflix before, said – He's in some of the Jurassic World movies. Yes, he is. Detective Pikachu, et cetera. Detective Pikachu, yeah, and the upcoming Dungeons & Dragons. Dungeons & Dragons. But he said, okay, well, what if I go, what if I get another job at Netflix and I have to go touring for two months?

Do I lose access to my Netflix? Yep. Unless he gets that secret code. He might get the secret code, yeah. So anyway, if they roll this out, I hope this kills Netflix. Just as a lesson to everybody, you know? Just be like, this is what will happen to you. Because quite frankly also, Netflix isn't good enough for this yeah if it was a better service

and also other services they do have measures in place but they also did that from the get-go they didn't pride themselves on sharing passwords and i didn't even have a problem with like if you've got multiple accounts different locations maybe you pay a bit a little bit extra all right they also jacked the price up a few years ago for this reason, because people were password sharing. Yeah, yeah. So this is why we're increasing the price. So it's either.

So you're going to bring it down again? You're going to bring it down again if we're ruling out password sharing. Interesting. No, but absolutely right. Yeah, bad times all around. But they were just joking and kidding, so it's fine. Yeah, it was a joke. And you fell for it.

You absolutely fell. And, again, it's that thing of like, and there's a, you know, where I'm like, okay, well, I don't often use Netflix on my phone. Yeah. So does that mean that once a month I have to log into Netflix on my phone and watch a TV show for a second? That seems annoying. Or you'll ban my phone?

Come on. Yeah. But you're right. And the last thing I watched, I think, on Netflix was Glass Onion. And that was weeks ago. I didn't because I saw it at the movies. Yeah, well, that's the thing. And if I hadn't, you know, et cetera.

If you hadn't, you know. If you hadn't, you know. If you haven't, then you know. You know. You know. I was going to say if I hadn't seen it, I would have watched it. I watched it at the movies and I watched it on Netflix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But having seen it at the movies, I didn't have to watch it at Netflix.

But that's not the point. The point is that's the only thing I've watched at Netflix in like the last month. I think it's also like it was probably initially to appease investors. It looks good for their stock. Well, they thought it would look good for their stock. Like it might increase the price of the stock because they're like, oh, this is a good way to make revenue, et cetera.

I'm logging into Netflix right now. Ooh, Appleseed Plus or to make revenue, et cetera. I'm logging into Netflix right now. Yeah. Ooh, Appleseed Plus or something. Appleseed Alpha. I remember that anime from back in the day, and you also would remember that from back in the day. Yeah, well, I'm the biggest fan of anime. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Everybody who knows me knows that. That's true. Mason, should we move to the next bit of news, which is also Netflix related? Oh, yeah, of course. This is via Variety. Now, as I mentioned up top, Mason, it's a fun little joke that I did. I said the real-life Squid Games that Netflix are currently filming

or have been filming in the UK is actually turning into a real-life Squid Games. Oh, no. So what's happened is they're basically, if you haven't heard, they're doing a Mr. Beast style what if Squid Games was real, right? Mr. Beast, no. There should be a guy on his team and his catchphrase is Mr. Beast, no. Yeah.

And I'll happily do that for $10,000 a week. That's really good. It's very reasonable, I think. Yeah. Yeah. That's $120,000 a year. Pretty good, right? Australian?

No, American. Okay, fair enough. After tax. We do have a question about MrBeast in his latest video, which we'll talk about at the very back end of the show. But basically, so it's been a disaster. It's turned into a real-life Squid Games, Mason. So basically, one of the segments they were filming is Red Light, Green Light.

For those of you who don't know, it's basically, it's what's the time, Mr. Wolf? You turn around, and if they see you moving, but it's a robot instead of a wolf, you get shot. You're explaining this so badly. It makes exactly what it is, Mason. What's the time, Mr. Wolf? But if it is, you know.

That's right. Anyway, everybody saw it. So the idea is that they were filming that first segment in it and there was something like 456 contestants involved in this. Because that is the classic Squid Game number, yes. Exactly. The winning prize was like £4 million or whatever. £4 million?

Yeah. I know, not Australian. So as the filming got underway, like everybody was excited because, you know, you get the opportunity to win money. The problem was also that people were excited to do this. Are you explaining the concept of a game show? Yeah, no, but listen. Some people are excited because of the money.

No, no, but so they were encouraged and they were followed up and everybody was screened and they had like influences coming in who apparently they're also favoured. So they seem to eliminate people just like on a whim because it's like you want to get Johnny fucking film himself. Well, it's interesting because obviously Squid Game, the TV show, the narratively interesting characters get through. But realistically, maybe in Red Light, Green Light, everybody loses. Yep. Like maybe everybody gets caught on the red light and you go, well, do we start again?

Like there's no. Well, that's exactly. So as it got underway, the atmosphere changed. So coats were taken away. Hand and foot warmers were scooped out of pockets, and players' jackets had to remain unzipped. So this was in order to display the numbers as well as the fake blood that would squirt from devices

strapped to their chest if they were eliminated. So if you remember the show, they were like machine-gunned if they moved. So they wanted to bring that element in. Sure. And somebody said, can we actually machine-gun them? No. Interesting. Well, we're going to.

So when the show's giant killer doll stopped singing, they had to freeze in position. But what began as a promised two-minute wait was then bumped to like 10 to 15 minutes of staying still, sometimes even longer. The other thing is nobody had their watches or phones and nobody has a sense of time in this. This was supposed to be a two-hour game. So you had to potentially stand still for 15 minutes.

No, Mason, you had to, this took 11 hours to film. That's too long. That's one segment, by the way. So it was also supposed to be a two-hour filming. But again, I guess they wanted to get every possible angle on it and they said they wanted to confirm results. But apparently people were losing feeling in their feet because it was also, it was this like unprecedented cold snap.

What's that about? It's probably nothing. This is in the UK. Yes, zero degrees Celsius. And it was also afterwards the people who got through were taken to accommodation or whatever, but they weren't fed properly. Should have gone to Greg's. I agree.

One person woke up and there was like a cold Big Mac on the floor outside their room and they were like, this is for you. Should have gone to Greg's. And also of the 456 intestines, none of them got paid or have been getting paid. So this is happening and let's watch it. Let's watch it, Mason. Let's watch it.

Why not? Yeah, that sounds like because they're – It seems excessive, don't you think? Well, what seems to have happened here is they've taken all the worst aspects of reality TV and also game show TV because it's like, okay, well, we need to get proper coverage of this, so let's have everybody stand still for 15 minutes. Yep.

It's not how these games work. No, not at all. So that's going to be. That's going to be. I mean, would that be a whole episode, just that red light, green light? Oh, maybe, right. Because one of the things about the Mr. Beast video is, like, it's pretty tightly edited. So it's not like an hour of red light, green light? Oh, maybe, right. Because one of the things about the Mr. Beast video is like it's pretty tightly edited.

So it's not like an hour of red light green light, which is not interesting. But I don't know. What a disaster. And it looks like nobody learned anything from the Squidler game, the other Squid Game show, or the Mr. Beast Squid Game that he already made and did. Yeah.

Mason, we're going to ramp up to some DC stuff right now. Love it. But, of course, before we get there, we need to talk about this week at Look What They've Cancelled This Week. Oh, here's something that I know they've cancelled. What is it? It's the TV series Pennyworth. Is this your one bit of news?

Maybe. No, I have that bit of news. Does that count as your one bit of news? Yeah, probably. I guess so, Mason. The origins of Batman's butler. What do you call it? The butler who saved America or something? I don't know. What do you call it? The Butler Who Saved America or something?

I don't know. What do you think it was called? The Butler Who Eventually Knew Batman. That's right. And he said hello. Did he though? Did he? Well, here's the thing.

So this, I think maybe we've mentioned before, this particular version of Alfred, the Pennyworth series is a prequel to Gotham, but it is also a prequel to the Beef of Vendetta movie, I guess. As we discovered recently. Or the comic book series. It is a, it's set in the same universe. So does that mean.

Remember, remember, Batman's butler. I think the expression is from the comic. So is the idea that Batman lives in a universe where at one point in London. They did a Beef of Vendetta. They did a Beef of Vendetta for a couple of years. It also might be one of those universes where maybe there isn't a Batman. Yeah.

You know? But it's the origin of Batman's butler. That's a great point. It'd be called the origin of nobody's butler. Well, I guess. I've decided to not get into butler, actually. This is also a universe where there is no Batman because they've cancelled it.

Well, and also, I don't know if you saw this. London exploded? Yes. Spoilers for the final episode of. By the way, apparently this show is pretty solid. Well, yeah. The main guy looks pretty charming and what have you. And there's some, as we've seen from clips,

there's some interesting stuff happening in it. But if you saw on Twitter, somebody clipped the final scene of Pennyworth, the last episode. And spoilers for this. He's got sideburns and he's at a wedding. He's got big sideburns and a big widow's peak. Well, he's at his own wedding. Yes. And his wife-to-be says, yes, I'll marry you.

I guess. And then it comes to him, do you take this woman? And he's about to answer. And then they're on the outskirts of London, I guess, or out in the country or whatever. And then there's just an enormous nuclear explosion in London. Do you think it was the V for Vendetta starting? Maybe.

But maybe because- Oh, maybe in this version of V for Vendetta it was a bomb and not a virus? See, I thought the V for Vendetta stuff was happening, some V for Vendetta stuff was happening in Season 3. I don't know. Don't know. Maybe there was some.

I think it was more of a hint. But here's the thing also. Everybody reacts like it's nothing. Everybody just looks over and they're like, hmm. And I think what that was was on set they were just like, we don't know what you're going to be reacting to yet. Could be a lizard. Could be a lizard.

A big lizard's crashed this wedding. God, shoot. He's on a cake. He's on this horrible 1960s British cake. It's made of jelly and carrots. I hate this. But I don't know. Hard carrots. London goes up

and everybody's just like, oh yeah, I guess. Which is wild. Does that mean he's not married? I guess we'll never know. Chekhov is the butler married. That's right. Technically not. But also, probably never coming back to this universe unless they do another The cat in the box one. That one.

Schrodinger's cat. Thank you. Schrodinger's is bad man's butler. Schrodinger's bad man is a butler. Unless we go back to a, unless there's another CW style shared universe that they build and they can go back to a crossover and be like what happened to that universe well it blew up that wasn't London that was Tottenham might have

been Tottenham oh no what's gonna happen to Tottenham Hotspur not my spurs no that's bad so but also I think based on some of the stuff that happened in that season it might have also been an hallucination yeah maybe London didn't really blow up. I don't know. We'll never know. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. We'll never know.

I think there'd probably be a comic at some point. Because Smallville is continuing in comics. That's true. And that was well after the fact. And I think they're even doing an animated series, aren't they, of Smallville? Or they were. Who knows whether that's happening now.

So what's happening with the DC TV stuff at the moment, the stuff that's not in the mainline universe, which is just Peacemaker at this point. We'll talk about more. Because James Gunn, he did a big announcement. So it's Gunn and Safran, and I think they've decided to be good cop, bad cop. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

Because one announces all the exciting new things. No one goes. And the other one is like, and we're cancelling things. This is why this isn't happening. Yeah, this is why. First bit of news, obviously. Oh, can I just quickly say, so we've got the Arrowverse wrapping up. Gotham Knights is starting soon on CW.

And will soon to be cancelled. Soon to be cancelled, probably. Have you seen the trailer? We'll get to that, sorry. No, no, I haven't. I'll put a pin in it. And Superman and Lois seems to be good for at least a couple of seasons. Anyway, let's talk about the trailer for Gotham Knights.

No, I haven't. The main guy's just a guy. He's some guy. He's a new guy. He's Batman's son, but he's just a guy. You'd be like, you know how Batman technically has all those sons? Yeah. Well, it's not any of them.

What's his name? I'm going to look it up. So he's a Wayne? No. Then he's not like a Robin? No. Batman is dead and a powder keg is ignited Gotham City without the Dark Knight to protect it.

In the wake of Bruce Wayne's murder, his adopted son, Turner Hayes, is framed for his killing. With a charismatic and hard-charging district attorney, Harvey Dent, at the GCPD hot on his trail, Turner must rely on allies, including his best friend and formidable coder, Stephanie Brown, and unlikely Batman sidekick, Carrie Kelly. Okay, right.

So Carrie Kelly is the Dark Knight Returns Robin from the future and also the 80s, and Stephanie Brown is Spoiler, who became Batgirl, and she's now one of the Batgirls. Yeah. But who's, why have they, I wonder if this is another one of those copyright things where you can't have Batman and Robin in the same TV series for some reason. Yeah, I think, again, they like to reserve him for like their big A list

properties and whatever. Right, but why not just a Robin? I guess because Titans? I don't know. Yeah, I guess because Titans. Great point. A show that is cancelled. Is also cancelled, yeah.

Anyways, Mason, well, you're talking about Good Cop, Bad Cop. So this is what Peter Safran said via Variety about the Batgirl movie. Oh, yes. This is what I'm thinking of, actually. Yeah. You can talk about it or I can read the quote. No, if you can, yeah. Okay.

He said, I saw the movie and there are a lot. Oh, by the way, if you don't know, they filmed the entirety of the movie and then they binned it. And this was before the new DC, the shift changed. A new team punch carded in. I saw the movie and there was a lot of incredibly talented people in front of and behind the camera on that film, but that film was not releasable and it happens sometimes.

No, it doesn't. We'll release anything. We'll get to that and Warner Brothers release schedule. We'll talk about that. That film was not releasable. I actually think that the president of Warner Brothers, David Zaslav, and the team made a very bold and courageous decision to cancel it because it would have hurt DC. It would

have hurt those people involved. It would have not been able to compete in the theatrical marketplace. It was built for the small screen. So, again, I think it's not an easy decision, but they made the right decision by shelving it, Mason. Wow. What do you think about that? Well, I mean, he can say anything he wants because we'll never see it.

Yeah. He can absolutely say, yeah, no, it was actually – so we actually saved you. You all dodged a bullet, actually. We were spraying bullets left and right, and you just dodged them. I think it was, I mean, maybe it was bad. We won't ever know. Or maybe it was a tax dodge. He's not going to come out and go, yeah, it was the tax thing.

Yeah, right, yes. Yeah, it was actually really good and very releasable, but we wanted to save some money, and we just decided. So we have, and we did. Yeah, we had, and we did. And I'm proud of myself. That's right. So there you go.

Let's get into the slate then. All right. Well, first of all, James Gunn did come out and he said, look, first of all, just as a point of difference from Marvel and in the wake of the release of Steven Spielberg's The Fablemans, from this point forward all DC superheroes where possible will be pronounced like their surnames. And then he announced Superman Legacy and the Batman 2.

Yeah. And he said there's actually going to be like a retroactive redubbing, like a historic project where they're going to redub all the old stuff. That's good, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Going to be Batman Returns, Batman Begins, you know. The Dark Knight featuring Batman. Oh, my God.

Keaton, there's going to be that iconic scene where the criminal's like, who are you? And he's going to be like, I'm Batman. Batman? Multiple bad. Maybe. That's great. So here's what he said to Screen Rant about kicking all this off.

He said, I wanted to take care of these characters. We all know it's been a fucked up road for many of them. For the past few years... Most of all, rude and edgy, I like it. And I really thought it was a challenge, but I think it's a possibility to create something really wonderful with these characters. The history has been shit.

It's been a real fucked up journey for DC. I think there was basically no one minding the mint and they were giving out IPs to any creative that smiled at whomever was in the room. There was never really any power given to the people in charge and so somebody could always go over their heads and do whatever they wanted. And people have thought that's the implication that Dwayne Johnson

was out his way on Black Adam and Henry Cavill. Dwayne Johnson. But we don't know who specifically he was talking about. He said we had the DCEU, which they never officially named, by the way. Yeah, that's true. When did they have a chance? It only went for like 15 years. When did they have a second to themselves to just sit down?

Sometimes I'll take a day, James, and I'll have a day off and I'm like, today I'm going to delete some tabs in my phone browser. It'll be my whole day. Just really get into it, really reorganize some stuff. They should have taken a day. I agree. We had the DCEU, which then became the Joss Whedon Justice League, but it was also the Snyderverse, which became this.

And then we have Wonder Woman and Wonder Woman 2, which doesn't even match what happened in Wonder Woman 1. And then we also have the Arrowverse and even us coming in with the Suicide Squad and Peacemaker. And, you know, what is it exactly? All of a sudden, Batmite's a real guy. So how can we take these things together and make them make sense and have them unified and have them be one real universe, one real world? Was Batmite a real guy?

He was mentioned in Peacemaker. Oh, yeah. Look, I know this is harsh and Snyder fans might not want to hear it, but it is a mess. And we've talked about this. Like, it's all over the place, man. And, look, I'm not saying what he's doing necessarily is going to be the greatest thing ever, but looking at this line-up, I think this could be really incredible, genuinely.

I mean, who knows? But first let's talk about the things that are going to be wrapping up under the old guard that they're going to be releasing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So in the statement that he put out, which is him in front of a brick wall. That's edgy. That is edgy. Like a 1980s stand-up comic.

He wrote. I'm down here in the comedy cave. They're going to wrap things up with Shazam to The Flash, which is apparently going to reset the universe, which means they're probably going to maybe film some stuff that's going to be connected to his DCU potentially, maybe the new Superman or Batman, I don't know. James, Superman and Batman. Superman and Batman.

At least for this episode. But they're really, that's probably coming up here, but they're really hyping up that Flash movie. Yeah. They're like, this is the best thing we've ever done maybe. We'll see. We'll see, won't we? And Aquaman 2.

Sorry. Aquaman 2. Aquaman. Aquaman 2. Yeah, so he got into all of that, right? And basically like, yeah, these are great and we're still releasing them, but there is going to be a reset point, which is

just like how they reset with the new 52 in the comics, essentially. So there's going to be an 8 to 10 year plan and chapter 1 is called Gods and Monsters. Interesting. Now the idea is, this is by Jeff Snyder, who's a big scooper mace, and he said, because of that 8- to 10-year plan,

talent is being asked to sign a 10-year deal that covers both film and television, which makes sense. And the first thing that's going to be released is an animated show written by James Gunn, seven episodes, called Creature Commandos. And speaking of, not only has this been a big week of new announcements of new projects for DC, it has also been a big week for comic book creators

learning that their creations are being used in TV and film. Specifically this, I think it's JM DeMatteis who created the Creature Commandos and has used them a bunch of times, was like, huh, that's interesting. Am I? Yeah. Am I? Yeah, huh, that's interesting. Am I? Yeah. Am I? Yeah.

Yeah, that is interesting. But I will say this, what I do like about these announcements, and I feel like some of this is after that, you know, some creators came out. James Gunn came out and, like, he named specific comics, which were either the story or the tone. Yes. And I think that's really important to acknowledge that these aren't ideas

that have come out of thin air. People created these and often got paid very little to no money to do so yeah yeah and even the fact that they're getting eyes on these creators and maybe hopefully throwing some more money their way is a good thing yeah and i hope that that becomes the norm across all mediums who you know, use comics. And in all walks of life. Yeah, because, like, in Marvel they'll often use a story and then they won't pay somebody properly or at all. Yeah, well, DC, you know, are known pretty widely for being better at that.

Like, I don't think we know any figures really, but, you know, there are stories about how, like, people have been, you know, they got paid more for Lucius Fox than, was it Len Wein who created, somebody, whoever created Lucius Fox got more for that than Thanos. Okay, yeah, no, I remember that. I think it's the same creator. Well, that's fair enough. Morgan Freeman, you know.

Yeah. I'm probably crossing my wires there, but it was a minor character, major character. Yeah, that makes sense. No, I remember something along those lines. So this is going to be an Amanda Waller-led monster black ops team. Gunn said also it allows the creative collaborators to tell stories that are gigantic but without spending, you know, $50 million.

Because as we know, Mason, animation can be anything. You can do anything. Budget's unlimited. It's basically free to make. Just knock it out in the weekend. So this line-up is interesting. Yeah. The guy on the left, I believe, is Rick Flagg Sr.

Who do you think they're going to get for that? Maybe they'll get Joel Kinnaman again. Maybe they'll get Joel Kinnaman or Joel Kinnaman's dad. Joel Kinnaman's dad. Yeah. Who's that? Joel Kinnaman Sr. Is it one of the Skarsgård brothers?

It might be one of the Skarsgård brothers. Yeah. Weasel's on there? Yeah, Weasel is on there. So that's a carryover from the Suicide Squad. We've got both Frankenstein and the Bride of Frankenstein. Yep. The glowing skeleton, I believe, is Dr. Phosphorus.

And then we've got some sort of shape of water merlady. Yep. I think. And a robot guy. And a robot guy. That's correct. Now what's interesting about that is also. That's probably a known robot guy, but I don't know who it is.

Probably. I mean, yeah, some of them I remember and some of them I don't. And what's interesting about this as well is that, you know, like a lot of big two comic book properties, both sides have one of these. Both Marvel and DC have a. Monster squad. They have a monster squad of sorts.

In fact, I think maybe Marvel's is the monster squad, but they both have a team of weirdos, many of which are, you know, outside of copyright, universal monsters that they're in a team. Sometimes they're in World War II. Yeah. Sometimes they're a special ops team or whatever. But this might be – is this the first one where DC's done it out of the gate? Might be, yeah.

Yeah. It's interesting as a first choice. I wonder if they saw Werewolf by Night and they were like, that's probably what Marvel's going to do. Yeah, maybe. We're going to get a bunch of horror weirdos in a team. Let's do it first. I do wonder like.

And, of course, this is animation so you can just knock it out. You can do anything. Just knock it out in five minutes. They probably knocked it out in five minutes. What's interesting is a couple of things. They're going to cast voice actors who will then appear in live action at some point potentially. So they're obviously going to look similar to their counterparts.

Obviously there's going to be some CGI characters here, so they're going to voice them. Maybe it will be Kenovan then, yeah. But also there was a second thing I was going to say and I've forgotten, but that would have been also interesting. It sounds like it would have been interesting. You're often saying interesting things and I like that. Oh, what I was going to say, I know you said maybe they looked at Marvel

and what they were doing with Werewolf 1. why not we don't really know when gun came on board for this right how long was he writing this was he writing this long before he was decided that him and saffron were going to take over yeah but we don't know the timeline of any of this obviously when they make the announcement that he's taking over that's a deal that's potentially six months to years in the making. Maybe not years, but yeah, we don't know at this point. This article I'm reading here is saying that at one point one of the members of the team included a riff on the creature

of the Black Lagoon called Bog Man. Yeah. So that's pretty fun. And also this is a roster, like the Suicide Squad, like the Justice League, this is a roster that they can swap out. Kill. Kill anybody. Yeah, exactly, yeah.

So there's also going to be a live action series called Wallah, which is a Viola Davis-led series set between Peacemaker Season 1 and 2. Peacemaker Season 2 has been delayed because of everything else James Gunn is working on. So it's going to have Crystal Henry, one of the minds behind the latest Watchmen series, and Jeremy Carver, who worked on Doom Patrol, which is great because they just cancelled Doom Patrol.

Yeah, so he's free. And because it's a good show, admittedly I haven't seen it, at least they recognise that, like, well, one of the people who worked on this is obviously talented and let's give them another shot. Yeah, right, right, right. So they're going to be writing it. And these, Quidditch Commandos and Waller,

are expected to debut before the first movie, Superman Legacy. It's called by Safran an aperitif. Oh, very fancy. He's edgy, but he's also classy. I like that. Just like a cold egg you can eat before a meal. Like a cold egg, yes. Like a champagne and monster energy drink.

Mixed? Yes. Separately? No, mixed. Mixed, good, yeah. I like that as like a jumping off point yeah before getting to a big movie i think that's good stuff but let's talk about a big movie what big movie it's supermen legacy nice uh this has a release date for the moment of july 11th 2025 now james gunn said this is what his version is going to look like. He's a big galoot. He's a farm boy from Kansas

who's very idealistic. His greatest weakness is that he'll never kill anybody and he doesn't want to hurt a living soul. And I think that sort of innate goodness about Superman, that's his defining characteristic. He's also going to be writing the project, but Safran has said, and

we've mentioned this, that he hopes James Gunn can be persuaded perhaps to direct as well. And I think, look, as we've said before. I guess I'll do it. I guess I'll direct a Superman movie. If he's doing this universe and this is the first movie and he's in charge of this and he wants it to be his vision and the best version of this, it would make 100% sense

that he directs this movie. Absolutely. And I think that he could make an excellent Superman movie for real this time, though. Yeah, yeah. I know, like, all the Superman movies have their strengths. Yeah. But just the idea of seeing, you know,

it's kind of based tonally on, like, all-star Superman. Yes. And this mix of, like, naivety and, like, good-heartedness but intelligence and, you know, journalistic integrity and investigation and aliens and being like an immigrant from outer space and all of these things. I think this, I've been saying for ages, I want a definitive modern Superman movie and I don't think that they ever got that with the Henry Cavill Superman.

No, that's true. And they're also going to cast about 25. Yeah. Which is why they haven't brought Henry Cavill back to this. And so to be clear, we don't know any actors who are about 25. No. So we can't really. Can't help you, sorry.

There's a front runner and he looks pretty Superman-y. And I'm like, yeah, looks pretty good. Yeah. Can he act? Don't know. Can he run? Can he front run? That's what you need.

That's right. And didn't James Gunn produced or at least co-produced Brightburn that's true so we know he's got the you know he's got the

he can do that he can make superpowers look yeah for real you know I think also like he does heart superman superpowers

he does heart really well yeah I know he can do like weird gross stuff yeah but if you look at like the Guardians movies

and other things that he's done that he can do like he can elicit emotion. That's true. Even if it's like a horrible little raccoon or whatever. Yeah, yeah. So I think. But can he elicit Superman punching a man into space?

I hope so. Yeah, same. I think also there's a good chance that there'll be a Lobo situation. Lobo comes to Earth and is like, hello. And Superman's like, just don't. Stop it. Could you give it a like, just don't. Stop it. Could you give it a rest? I don't like your flying motorcycle, sir.

It's too loud. I'm putting in a complaint to the council. We're going to get a sign. Of Krypton. We're getting a sign put up that says, please. Sir. Sir. After that, we're going to be having the show Lanterns,

which is an enormous TV series that follows Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart as they discover a dark mystery, true detective style. Okay. It plays a really big leading role in the main story that they're telling across. Hal Jordan will be on meth the entire time. They're telling it across the main story.

Space meth. Smith. of film and television. Now, there was a Green Lantern series. It was going to be Guy Gardner-led and Greg Berlanti was doing it. It was behind a lot of the Arrowverse. That's not what this is going to be. I love the idea of, like, space mystery Green Lantern. And what if, like, the greater mystery is, like, a, what's his name, the big skull ship guy, Brainiac or something like that.

Like they're uncovering an intergalactic mystery. They could also tie it into, we read an excellent Superman comic recently about an alien invasion and a girl gets killed. Up and away. Yeah, which is incredible. Like maybe it ties to something like that. Link them all together, yeah. Yeah, I mean the true detective thing is a bit like.

That is, they are, look, that is a lofty goal, I think. But I mean... Maybe if they're like True Detective but the Vince Vaughn series. Not the one that everybody loved universally. True Detective but the old pulp magazines that weren't very good. Sorry, we tricked you, but bad. Yeah, look, I mean, what if it is, though? Like what if it is just a good prestige TV series?

Yep. Because, you know, Amazon Prime do it and all, you know, where it's like a great drama set in space. Yeah. That is achievable. Yep. And a good-looking superhero TV series. A couple of good-looking roosters heading it up.

Yeah, that's for a couple of those roosters. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, no, absolutely. And obviously we've had some attempts at Green Lantern in the past. There was a 90 telly movie which we covered in Caravan of Garbage. That's right. Terrible.

There was the Green Lantern movie with Ryan Reynolds. Terrible. Excellent. I agree. Yeah, really good. And we'll put a video on it. But let's see whatever this is. I mean, because they are essentially space cops, aren't they?

Yes, that's exactly right. So, you know, let's see that, I guess. Next up, this is really your wheelhouse. I'm going to throw to you for this, Mason. It says, being a big loser. Oh, yeah, cool. Great, I'm ready. I'm ready.

I've never been more ready in my life. You know that dream where you wake up at school and you haven't studied for the test and you're naked? Well, I've studied for this test and I've got so many clothes on. I've got a bunch of T-shirts that say, I'm with a big loser and there's an arrow that's pointing right up at me. No, it's The Authority. The Authority, great.

Based on the Warren Ellis and Brian Hitch's comic. Yes. These are the Wildstorm characters. Yes. These are the Wildstorm characters. Yes. So, you know, obviously Image Comics was a bunch of former big two. It was mostly Marvel creators who went and formed their own company. Yeah. But Jim Lee created Wildstorm, which was his own kind of superhero universe

and different creators jumped in with that and built up that universe. Yeah. and different creators jumped in with that and built up that universe. Yeah. And one team was Stormwatch, which was a government superhero agency. And then in the universe, some members of that team went rogue and then they added some more members and they found like a miles-long spaceship in an interdimensional breach and that became their base of operations and they became the authority.

And they were like – it was sort of a superhero team that is like, there's an early storyline where a bunch of aliens from a parallel universe come and invade Earth and they beat back the invasion and they go into that parallel universe and they destroy their planet. Like it's that kind of universe. It's like they reinvade the invaders and they kill them all was i think it was described as sort of like widescreen comics like it's big action okay sure you know big splash pages and big splash pages and you know they'll

you know they'll they're not averse to blowing up a planet or finding and killing god for example it's interesting you say that because apparently with this story this is according to peter saffron they take things into their own hands and they're kind of like jack nicholson and a few good men uh they know that you want them on the wall or at least they believe that so basically bad people yeah thinking they're doing good or sometimes doing good well what i should have said is also you know eventually the wild storm universe jim lee sold it to dc and many of those characters got integrated into the DC universe as a whole. And so some of them are like, they're like homages

to existing superheroes. So like there's two characters, Apollo and the Midnighter, who are Superman and Batman but they're a couple, for example. A couple of good friends. A couple of really good friends and roommates. Who are gay for each other all the time. Oh, yeah, they're also that. Big time.

Yeah, yeah. And again, it's sort of interesting and i i'm not super across do they get into like the power dynamic of that in terms of like one is a super powered being and one well the midnighter is also super powered oh okay he's like he's like batman times 100 so he's so they were they were both batman yeah so they were both their origin is basically they were both experimented on and given superpowers, and Apollo is like Superman. He's got solar-powered-based – But Midnighter is super strong and super resilient,

but he also has a computer in his head that can calculate millions of battle probabilities. Someone put a calculator in his head. Yeah, he's got a big calculator in his head. He sometimes says boobs and he's like, no, thank you. Not for me calculator in his head. He's got a big calculator in his head. TI-83. He says boobs and he's like, no, thank you. Not for me. Not for me. But it's like, he's one of those guys where it's like, before the fight starts, he's already

won because he knows exactly when. Yes. So it's that guy. So that's interesting. But I'm not overly familiar with the DC versions of these characters. Okay, sure. I'm not sure who's still on the team or who they got rid of. You haven't read this particular Warren Allen. No, I've read that one because that's pre-DC. Oh, okay, sure.

So this one is like – so, yeah. But there's like – again, it's like huge stuff. Like there's a – one of the characters, he's called the God of the City. So he's a guy – speaking of him being experimented on, his origin is that he got abducted into the future. As like a kid and like a teenager, he kept getting abducted by what he thought were aliens and like getting like all sorts of bionic enhancements and stuff.

And then it was revealed he was being abducted by humans from the future because in the future cities became sentient like immortal engines. Right. Like there was a sort of future apocalypse and they were coming back through time to destroy the earth. Oh, my God. And so he had to fight a sentient city.

And his origin story ends with him turning Tokyo into a giant mech suit and punching on with a flying city. So it's like that level of insanity. So if they're going to put that, I'm very happy. It sounds like it should be animated because then it wouldn't cost anything. It ought to be free. So I don't know what level of, again, there's just, and it's, look, and some of the.

I mean, Gunn loves a big weird thing, like Starro. Yeah, yeah, that's a big weird thing. So why not? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and some of it is also after Warren Ellis, there was like a Mark Miller run. Yeah, and that's pretty edgy and rude. So I don't know how much edgy and rude stuff they're going to put in.

Sure, okay. But I would recommend all those runs, I think. Okay, all right. I might look at some to all of them, Mason. Next up will be- You know what I'm speaking of? Sure. What I like about what Gunn is doing here is he hasn't gone,

he hasn't, it's not like they've taken a photo of Benedict Cumberbatch and he's reading a vague Doctor Strange comic or whatever. He said, here are some stories that inspired what we're doing. It's not the exact stories, but here's the vibe, and you can buy them and people have bought them. And it's not a case. Apparently Marvel sneaked a QR code into some of their stuff and if you scan it, you get a free copy of the whatever.

That doesn't work. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. Just show people what it is and people will buy it. I completely agree. And also I feel like the way that they gut the comic book industry because they don't seem to realize that a lot of the value in this IP is the fact that all of these stories have been tested in another format

where they have been proven to work. And then they borrow them and put them on the screen. And I think bringing light to that could even hopefully revamp a lot of the fact, like new ideas and new stories. Cause there is the threat of, if you keep doing events in the comics where it's civil war and then it's civil war two, and then it's civil war and alternate dimension or whatever. And then it's world war Hulk and then it's world wars, hulks. And what, what's the, what are. And what are we doing? Where are the new events?

Where's the exciting new characters? Where's different stories? I mean, speaking of DC, obviously in Batman v Superman they did the Dark Knight Returns and they did Doomsday and they did some Injustice stuff. And it was Justice League Origins. And they just burned it all in the one movie. And it's like you could have done a really, you know,

regardless of how people think about that movie, which is hilarious, that could have been four movies or five movies. Yeah, I agree. But they, you know, some, Zack Snyder went, well, it would be cool if I could do all of them. What if Doomsday showed up at the end? Yeah. But it's not really Doomsday or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, we love the Snyderverse and we'll never stop campaigning. We'll never stop loving it. You can't stop us either. It's definitely, you know, it has its strengths. But also, as we've talked about, he's not even doing that stuff anymore. He's at Netflix making Star Wars Netflix or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Next up, Mason, we have something called Paradise Lost, which is a Wonder Woman prequel likened to Game of Thrones. See, there we go. There's that true detective comparison. Yeah. I also like the way they're pitching this to anybody. So if you hear that, you're like, I get that. Yeah.

You know, they're not like, it's not an obscure reference. It's like, you like Game of Thrones? This is that, but it's all women. It's a good season for Game of Thrones too. We're not going to screw you over in the last one. I'll tell you that much. It's really about political intrigue behind a society of all women. did this come about what's the origin of an island of women what because yeah this is interesting because what are the beautiful truths and the ugly truths behind

that because if you look at like the history of themyscira in various comics this society like this beautiful like utopian of all women and warriors and all this like everybody's kind of getting along it's just built off the backs of like slave labor and blood you know and all this, like everybody's kind of getting along. It's just built off the backs of like slave labour and blood and all this other stuff. And what's the scheming like between the different power players in that society? So there you go. And maybe they'll even get Robin Wright back or whatever.

Sure. Because she does a good political intrigue. They didn't say that, but that was just something. I'm waxing poetic about Mason. Is that what you're doing? That's what I'm doing. That's great. Yeah.

Sounds like a real Game of Thrones, True Detective style thing to do. But the good seasons. The good seasons, yeah. Yeah. Mason, we're going to take a little bit of a break for me to say this. This is all related. Variety have said that the plan is that Saffron and Gunn were going to release roughly two films and two TV shows per year into the DCU.

That output will not, however, sacrifice quality to meet deadlines. Gunn and Safran were adamant that films and series will not go into production until scripts are finished. And you might be like, that seems obvious. Isn't that what they always do? No. Apparently not. You would be shocked at how many productions roll

with unfinished scripts or they kind of change it halfway through and they're writing it on the day which is also can be good things when you're finding the story kind of on the fly sometimes that can work more often than not you watch it and you go what was that what happened and the reason is because they picked a release date and then they just ran at it no matter what happens. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Also, speaking of, do you say two movies and two series a year?

That's the… Right. I think also perhaps part of that plan is because Warner Brothers doesn't have any money. Exactly. Yeah. They don't. That's an interesting point that you bring up.

And the question becomes, you know, because, you know, we mentioned it recently, you know, the movies they released last year were Don't Worry Darling and Black Adam. Two good movies. Two good movies, which didn't review well and didn't do well financially. Two good movies, though.

Two very good movies. I'm sure I said they were both best movie ever, so. Yeah, that's what we're saying, two good movies. That's what we're saying. But, you know so much of this production i think relies on gun and zaz gun and saffron getting some money for the first couple of things yeah and hoping they're huge hits yep and then getting more money the iron man strategy the iron man strategy because if that doesn't work maybe this whole thing is a

house of cards it's going to collapse because if they make superman legacy yeah and it doesn't do particularly well i don't know if they're going to have the money to make game of thrones but it's on themyscira and the tv show that's going to cost 10 million dollars an episode or whatever or more i don't know what those shows cost yeah no you're absolutely right yeah it's also interesting that it seems as if like dc they i don't understand why they weren't leaning into this more heavily earlier this is obviously the most valuable thing that warner brothers has right which bit all this dc stuff and i know they have other properties i am aware of that an animation department etc but this is bunny yeah well yeah space jam another space Bugs Bunny. Yeah. Space Jam, another Space Jam.

But this is, if you do this right. Space Jam into the Jamverse. This is just a fucking Scrooge McDuck bin of just straight money forever. If you do it right. Yeah, right. It's basically you could do the MCU with this, like levels of wealth that you're bringing in. I guess on the, what I also like about this is there is that balance and it's even in the name

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It's another Batman movie. This is inspired by Grant Morrison's Batman Volume 1, which I actually haven't read, but it's going to include a new Batman and Damian Wayne. It's going to be a father-son story. So Gunn described Damian Wayne as our favourite Robin, a little son of a bitch, an assassin and a murderer. So if you don't know, Batman has a child in the comics

and various other mediums with Talia al Ghul, who grew up in the League of Assassins, and he's just basically a little psycho. Then he comes back to Batman and Batman's just basically a little psycho. Sure, yeah. And then he comes back to Batman, and Batman's like, you shouldn't kill people. Do you want to be Robin? And he's like, yes, but I am going to try to keep killing people.

And then Batman's like, just don't. Oh, you scally, you little rascal. You're such a rascal. If you were anybody else but my son, I would put you in jail. Right. But you get a pass for some reason. I wouldn't say he's my favourite Robin, but. Yeah, but it's an interesting dynamic.

I like the premise of this, yes, and the idea behind it. So it also implies that there is a Bat family because Damian Wayne is like four Robins in, three at least. If you don't count Stephanie Brown. Yeah. Four. Yeah. Yeah. That also means like don't count Stephanie Brown. Yeah. Four. Yeah. That also means like there's a Nightwing.

Yeah. Maybe there's a Carrie Kelly. I know she's from the future or whatever. But we don't know what this is going to look like. That's true, yeah. I think this could be a fascinating story, Mason. Fascinating story? And a little bit of fun and all that.

Let me ask you this, James. Sure. Because obviously we've got the Batman. Yeah. And we're having new Batman. New Batman? Based on Grant Morrison's Batman. Do you think this is the time to reintroduce blue and grey costume?

Yes, I do. Yeah. I mean, that's comics. Yeah. And this is comics. This is comics, baby. Absolutely. Or maybe even, you know, the one that's like, you know, purple inside cape.

Yep. You know, give us the oval, the yellow oval logo back or something. But there's like the blue and grey costume can look very cool, I think. I've seen cosplays of it that work as well. And if you want to differentiate the various Batmans, if you want people to not be confused when you see a Pattinson Batman or a regular comic book Batman. Or Ben Affleck Batman.

Ben Affleck Batman. Ben Affleck Batman. You go give him that. You could make it armoured, but you could also make it more cloth. You could give it the one of like, you know, it's the lightweight costume for swinging about the city. It's not the battle suit kind of thing. It's not the mech thing, you know. It's not the mech thing.

It's not the mech thing. Completely agree. So that's pretty much all the information we have on that. So let's move this along to Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow. Now this is a Tom King comic. And by coincidence, I happen to have just read this. It's an intergalactic story of revenge. It's a fantastic read if you haven't already.

So basically what we've got here, Mason, it says, we see the difference between Superman who was sent to Earth and raised by loving parents from the time he was an infant versus Supergirl who was raised in a kryptonite toilet. It was raised on a rock chip of krypton and watched everyone around her die and be killed in terrible ways for the first 14 years of her life. So yeah, Supergirl comes to Earth when she's like a youngish teenager. Yeah, so the comic book version, I think

the... She's supposed to be older than him, but she arrives after, so she's younger than him. Yeah, so the... That's one of the continuities. So they both rocketed from Krypton, but due to some time dilation thing, he arrived first and grew up to a man. And she's like, I'm still a girl.

I'm in a toilet. Yeah. Probably the's like, I'm still a girl. I'm in a toilet. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Probably the malnutrition due to the toilet thing. Absolutely. Now, what's great about this, and I don't know if you've read it. Have you read it? No, I haven't read it.

You should read it. I've read it already. I refuse now. Is that it's one of the things that I know you love about Superman stories or characters like this is that it's an intergalactic adventure where Supergirl isn't particularly special depending where she is. Right. Some of the planets have a red sun, so she's not super power, but there's still some like

residual energy from that. You know, it's basically a revenge story where a girl asks her help in tracking down her father's killer. She's like, all right. Sure. And they just have this like a road trip together through various planets and meeting. Busted up space RV. Yes.

Right. Stuff like that, yeah. They'll get a space bus places. Now, is this going to be the Supergirl that is the Supergirl in The Flash? That's a great question. I would say that depends on how well that movie is received and how well she's received in particular. Probably true, yeah.

But potentially, yes. But also potentially no. Potentially no. And I'm happy to say that. Yeah. Who do you think, again again, I think we are – if we're out of our depth anywhere, it's everywhere. But if we're out of depth in any particular thing,

it's probably casting, especially young actors. Yeah, I'd agree with that, yeah. Yeah. Who's the new Batman? We don't know yet. Don't know yet. History. New Superman.

We don't know. Well, Batman's going to be a little bit older because if he's got a son, he'd have to be at least early 30s. I don't think – no, mid- to be at least early 30s i don't think that no or mid 30s maybe early 30s um i think they're not going to do 45 year old to 50 grizzle batman yet they'll probably get to that eventually like the affleck style but it also i know there's been some talk about what age do you make uh his son yeah and i know people have said well it'd be more appropriate if he was like 15 or 16 yeah But I think, no, make him 10. And then that's crazy.

Like a hit girl style lunatic. And I think. But the actor would have to be. The actor would have to be slightly older, I guess. Or look young, but look younger. Or 10 year old, whatever. But I think that is more interesting than a person who looks like a man doing this. Chris O'Donnell, for example.

Chris O'Donnell, for example. The same height as George Clooney, I think. But I think, you know, and I think that lends itself to a different style of fighting. He's more of like a ninja. He's more of an assassin. He's not like a big bloke. He's like a little guy with a little katana or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. Killing people. So I would like to see that because it's like weird and fucked up. And I think maybe James Gunn would maybe go with that version. Oh like weird and fucked up um and i think maybe james gunn would maybe he would absolutely do that yeah but oh yeah no i can absolutely imagine just like a yeah just a just a corridor fight like in daredevil but it's a tiny little boy with a katana yeah yeah there you go and you know and then you're right we get to meet the rest of the bat family mate mate what if what if the new bat, they just throw in a couple of more Robins

and a Nightwing and a Red Hood and just be like, here it is. Yeah, absolutely. Completely agree. Next up we've got Booster Gold, which is going to be a live-action series. This is described as a, which is true of the comics, a loser from the future who uses basic future technology to come back to today and pretend to be a superhero. Basically Booster Gold is imposter syndrome as a superhero.

Booster Gold is a lot of fun. Oh, yeah. There's some animated stuff which is quite good. Is it the JLA series? Yes. Where he has his own little episode at one point. Yes, that's right. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, he's kind of – if you've seen Mystery Men, he's basically – he's kind of like the – who's the guy that was sponsored in that? Oh, yeah. Greg Kinnear's character. Yes. He's like – Mr. Superior or whatever kind of like the, he's the guy that was sponsored in that. Oh, yeah. Greg Kinnear's character. Yes. He's like. Mr. Superior or whatever.

Something like that, yeah. I can't remember what it is. But it's basically that guy, but he doesn't really believe anything about himself. Yes, right. He's all hype. But also he's really a hero. I saw people.

And he comes back to get rich, basically. Yeah. Or rich and famous. Yes. I saw some people being like, you know, maybe Chris Pratt would be a good fit for this, and I think that could be the case. But then also like Glenn Powell put his hand up and went, yes. Yes. I saw some people being like, you know, maybe Chris Pratt would be a good fit for this, and I think that could be the case. But then also, like, Glenn Powell put his hand up and went, yes.

Oh, that could work, yeah, for sure. He's from Top Gun, Maverick, obviously. And, yeah, I think that could be good. So there's some casting for you, Mason. Captain Amazing was Greg Kinnear's character. Okay, there we go. Yeah, and also, like. James Gunn loves a loser as well.

That's true. Like a lovable loser. Mm. Yeah. Well, he replied to us that one time. That's true. That's why he likes you so much. Oh, come on, mate. I just made that joke about us and then you made it about me. I should stop wearing this t-shirt.

But I love it. It's cozy. It's good. Booster Gold, of course, famously in the comic books, is often pals, big time pals with Blue Beetle. Yeah, I like that team up. Do you reckon we'll get that team up with Blue Beetle the movie, which is currently, up. Do you reckon we'll get that team up with Blue Beetle the movie, which is currently, it's been made and still on track and it's definitely being released.

Oh, that's one, actually, you're right, we didn't mention, but yes, Blue Beetle. But it's a different Blue Beetle. Yeah. I mean, you could still do that, you know. But yes. I wonder if they're going to address any of the other Blue Beetles in the Blue Beetle movie. Or if they cancel Blue Beetle. Maybe they might cancel it, yeah. We'll not have anything, yeah. I don't really really know much about that because we haven't really seen anything except

some like paparazzi shots and like a logo yeah so i don't i don't really know there's no i like him though he's like a karate kid and whatever would you say it's based on the stuff because i've not seen it i didn't see it anywhere it wasn't in cancellations nobody said and it's gonna can like it didn't he mention it briefly? Maybe he did. I didn't see it though. Yeah, I can't remember. I think it's still coming out. I think he has mentioned it if he didn't in this at least.

Okay, right. Might be wrong. Good, good. Yeah. Next up, while you're maybe looking into that, or maybe you're shopping for new T-shirts. I'm a super big loser. That'll do it.

But ironically, that's what it says. On the back, yeah. It's going to be Swamp Thing, which is inspired by Alan Moore's Swamp Thing Volume 1. So it's going to be a dark origin of Swamp Thing, which we actually saw recently in a TV series, which again we looked at, which was actually quite good. James Mangold seemed to be officially in talks.

He also posted a picture of it on Twitter. That's true. Also, he might already be signed on for this. Yeah, maybe. I feel like that's very much Also, he might already be signed on for this. Yeah, maybe. I feel like that's very much possible, very, very possible at this point. So Gunn referenced the initial reactions to Guardians of the Galaxy joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe and the initial questions about how Rocket Raccoon would work standing next to Thor.

And he said that mashup quality wound up being one of the highlights of Avengers Infinity War and Endgame, which I think is true. So Gunn said they're one-upping that approach with Swamp Thing. This is a much more horrific film, but we'll still have Swamp Thing interact with other characters. Maybe Swamp Thing and Weasel. That Alan Moore Swamp Thing run is great. It's also got a sequence where he takes over, I think it's Gotham,

and so they send in Batman, and Swamp Thing just beats the shit out of Batman. Batman puts a flamethrower on him but then doesn't realise that Swamp Thing is literally everywhere in the city because he's covered the city in various growth. That was the era when Batman was not completely invincible. He didn't have his plan. He just went in with a flamethrower.

It's just him being beaten up by supernatural weirdos like month after month. Yeah, I love that. Okay, so according to Blue Beetle updates on Twitter, then there's Blue Beetle on August 18th. I think James Gunn is saying here that sort of has its own world and fits in directly into our DCU. Okay, yeah. Okay, so that's still happening. So happening at this fits in directly into our DCU. Okay.

Yeah, that's, yep. Okay, so that's still happening. So happening at this point. Yeah. There you go. Okay. Interesting that they've gone with Swamp Thing, a series that they cancelled before it was fully out.

Yeah, but nobody watched it. That's true. Unfortunately, because it's quite good. That is why people didn't watch it. Yeah, there we go. Yeah. And now to wrap this up though apparently there might be some other stuff announced like this is just the initial kind of

lineup they've talked about elseworlds and elseworlds is going to consist of which is basically if you don't know elseworlds is story set outside of the main continuity yeah i'm kind of like it's not like i was gonna say like marvel's what if it's not like that it's just it's like uh superman red sun would be an example where superman landed in russia superman where he's british yes that's another one true brit i think what it is crap comic apparently haven't read it yeah i've read it it's not good yeah so basically what happened was years ago dc had their infinite universes and they were like this is too complicated let's get rid of it and then immediately they were like i kind of miss

this yeah we would love to have so then they went elseworlds and elseworlds is basically like And they were like, this is too complicated. Let's get rid of it. And then immediately they were like, I kind of miss this. Yeah. We would love to have. So then they went Elseworlds. And Elseworlds is basically like, well, initially it was like, these are just vaguely whatever. Yeah. Is it a parallel universe? Is it an imaginary story?

It doesn't matter. Who cares? It's just an Elseworlds. Who cares? Shut up. Yeah, just shut up. Shut up. And then, you know, with years more of continuity,

a lot of the time they've gone with like, yeah, they are parallel universes. You can go and visit them. They can come to other universes. Vampire Batman can fight British Superman or whatever. Shut up. If you could shut up. My God. So I like this.

So basically we've got for the moment, these aren't a surprise, but Joker 2, which is already happening. The Batman Part 2, which has a release date. Great name for starters. I agree. It's the sequel to, obviously, The Batman with Robert Pattinson. Rob Batten, Batten, Bat. That's out in October of 2025.

Also, apparently that Ta-Nehisi Coates Superman movie is still happening. Teen Titans Go, the animated series, and occasionally they do a movie. That's also part of that. Now, Safran has also said the bar is going to be very high for projects that are outside the dcu these elseworlds projects but now and then uh there will be something that lives up to that okay so basically saying that like the barrier to entry for this you have to have a pretty compelling pitch and idea yeah right to come in um because it needs to stand alone. And also I guess what's interesting about this is you could get

like a Joaquin Phoenix or Robert Pattinson or whoever to do like one. Yeah. Maybe you get Henry Cavill to come in and do Superman on British. Yeah, he is British. I know. He's British. I don't think they're done with Henry Cavill. Kryptonite on toast.

Yeah. It's not British enough. No, crumpets. Yeah, kryptonite on toast. Yeah. It's not British enough. No, crumpets. Yeah, kryptonite on crumpets. That can be his catchphrase. Kryptonite on a crumpet. But not for me. It'll kill me.

I won't have that. I'll die. So, yeah, that's interesting. Also, Peter Safran talked about Zachary Levi, who's obviously Shazam, Gal Gadot, who is Wonder Woman, for now at least, and Ezra Miller. Everyone here for now at least. Yeah. He said that there's no reason why all these people you mentioned

couldn't be part of the DCU. We just haven't decided what the story is, what we want to tell that incorporates Shazam or Aquaman. Oh, yes. He said specifically that we don't know in what capacity. We didn't let Gal go. So I guess we'll find out. Ezra's movie is already made.

That is a problem that they have to deal with no matter what. It costs too much money and apparently it's so good that they have to release it. The best movie anyone's ever made. People have wept at the cinema. Yeah, and Henry doesn't fit for what I have for Superman. That was what James Gunn said. So he also said – Ugly. Superman's going to be really ugly. Big argo. fit for what i have for superman that was what james gunn said so he also said oh maybe ugly

superman's gonna be really big i'll go yeah i think this is saffron said we fully support the journey this logo just says i'm a big loser there's an arrow that points up to his face what's the s stand for well on my planet it stands for i'm a big loser they made me wear it and now i'm just kind of settled into it. Yeah, it's fine. This is in regards to Ezra Miller. We're fully supportive of that journey that they're on right now. When the time is right, when they feel that they are ready to have a discussion, we'll figure out the best way forward.

But right now they're completely focused on their recovery. I think as soon as the flash comes out, that is dead. They will remove Ezra Miller, which I also think is probably a good idea at this point. James Gunn also mentioned this week that he doesn't agree with necessarily everything that an actor says, and this is in regards to Zachary Levi, where he was like Pfizer's whatever, and

look, I know... Well, I don't agree that it is whatever. I know that, like, that could be taken as a general statement against Big Pharma. Nobody's pro-fucking Big Pharma, but I think it is very specifically, yeah, about like vaccine stuff. But James Gunn is just like, I don't know, I don't agree with everybody and so whatever.

It is just, look, regardless of your opinion on any of that stuff, what a terrible time to tweet that at all. Like regardless of what he meant. Your big movie's coming out. Whether it's a dog whistle to anti-vax people or it's just a thing where he's like, yeah, I don't like the fact that there are big corporations or whatever. The fact that it could be interpreted a bunch of ways,

you chose now to say it. What were you thinking? Some people say hero though. What a hero. Some people would say what a hero. They'd be like the perfect time to say that. But not the Money Minute Warner Brothers. No.

They'd be like, don't do that. Why would you do it? It's also mentioned here that they're working with Ben Affleck, who really wants to be part of our architecture team trying to bring things together. And he really wants to direct one of our projects and we're looking forward to him doing that. I wonder if that's going to be his Batman movie.

Boston Batman. Boston Batman. Get in the car. Get in the car. It's the Batmobile get in the batman car yes yes uh cool he's a good director so you know why not yeah and he doesn't have to be batman anymore and he loves that i think oh it's he would 100 direct a batman movie so he can just every day he just walks in and just eats a donut it's a donut and jeans and a sweatshirt with holding a cigarette and he just sees the new batman come in and he's just like yep great how's the suit uncomfortable yeah it is isn't it yeah

how you five hours you've been in there well it'll be five more won't it yeah we can leave today we extra made this one that you can't pee in it. Yeah, that's right. Doubly so. Yeah. It circulates around the suit and it runs down your eyes. But that's Hollywood. Yeah, that's right. And you knew that coming in. Yeah, so there you go.

And I guess just to wrap this up, video games. This is via DC.com. The head of DC Studios, James Gunn, explained this. It's not like we're going to have a Superman movie come out and then we have this Superman game come out. It's more like we'll have a Superman film that comes out and maybe two years later we have a Supergirl movie coming out, so then what's the story in between there?

So, yeah, I think you can tell smaller or different or whatever narrative is from that. Bridging the gap, I guess. Yeah, which I think is cool. It also takes the pressure off having a game release at the same time as a movie. But also I don't care if games tie into – I want games to be good and I don't care if it's the same Superman.

I don't give a shit. And the answer of what happens in between the Superman movie and the Supergirl movie is nothing. So it really takes the pressure off the game designers. Exactly, yeah. It's just Clark Kent sitting in his apartment wearing a T-shirt that says I'm a big loser or whatever. Yeah.

And that's everything. Whoa, big week. This is pretty promising. Early days, but we'll see. We'll see how the next eight to ten years shakes out. We'll see how it shakes out. We'll see how much of what has been said here is hyperbole and what is real stuff will we get a

true true detective style will the money run out well the money right is a great question yeah i don't know if you're aware of this but in the cw there's a character called diggle he's an original character and there was apparently in the last you know few seasons of the cw shows there was a big long-running idea that he would become a Green Lantern somehow. Yeah. And at the end he's just – and at one point he gets like a mysterious box with a green glow in it and he's like he can't open the box and obviously there's a Green Lantern ring in there.

And at the end they were just like, no, he chooses not to take the – Oh, yeah? Yeah. Because he couldn't get the box open? Couldn't get the box open. He hit it with a rock and everything. And he's made – he had a welding torch. Really?

No, I don't know. But I think there was some justification around we don't want to put Greenlands on TV yet, and this is probably exactly the reason. But I think it's just funny that he had this whole story arc of like, and he's just like, I've chosen not to do this. I know what this is and I've chosen not to. I don't know.

I don't think so. Bizarre. Sounds like a work to me. I know what this is and I've chosen not to. I don't know. I don't think so. Bizarre. Sounds like work to me. I don't like it. Give me a regular gun any day. They fire in space, right? No. Oh, no. Now, Mason, we've had an exciting time in the show

so far with various news and whatnot. You've been here. You know what I'm talking about. It's been great. It's been incredible. Maybe the best episode we've ever had. Well, I think it's about to be, Mason, because it's not very often that we get a guest that we actually want to have in the studio. It's really quite a pleasant surprise, you know, when somebody just slithers in through the door without us knowing and we look up and they're there and we're like, what the hell? That's somebody who's very talented. And we've been a big fan of her work for a long time. Do you know who I'm talking about?

I refuse to look to my rights. I do not know who you're talking about. Give me some clues and I'll see if I can work it out. Okay, sure, Mason. Well, look, she's probably best known, and this is her words, and look, I don't think it's strictly true, from maybe some guest appearance in Aunty Donna, even an unofficial member or even an official member. One of my favourite Aunty Donna skits you wrote. One of their skits and riddles. Yeah, one of the boys' skits.

Oh, one of the boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. It's such a journey of, like, sadness and friendship and misunderstanding. Afterwards you're like, oof, there's just a lot in it, you know? Thank you. I wanted it to go to Sundance, but we haven't heard back.

So she sounds like a comedy writer. Sure. And performer? Yeah, there's definitely elements of that because there's comedian. Obviously she's an amazing singer, writer, actor. Average Bear, her stand-up special is on Paramount Plus as we speak. If you're in Australia or if you're not in Australia and there's an APN. Yeah, was it on?

Where is it? Else Place. Else Places. Else Places. It is literally only in Australia on Paramount Plus. And that's because it's still about to tour overseas. So you can't watch it on the telly. You have to get out of your fucking house.

Look, and I do want to talk about tour dates and all the things that you've got going on. By the way, that show, Average Bear, it's amazing. It's incredible. Like it really is. I actually watched it. Well, actually, I listened to it again today because I was with my kids. But what a journey.

Like it starts as one thing and you're like, this is a bit of fun. Look at this as a bear and whatever. And then it's just like this roller coaster of emotions and sadness and grief and fun and joy. Dad, I made you this gift. Get out of here. I'm listening to Michelle Brazier on Average Man. I'm experiencing real emotion.

But look, before we do any of that, you're a big Fast and Furious fan. Michelle Brazier's here, by the way. Oh, yeah, sorry. Did we say your name? Hi, I'm Michelle Brazier. Hi, Michelle. And I'm here. I slithered in.

Yes, that's right. So you're a big fan of the franchise. I am the biggest, possibly the biggest fan of the Fast and Furious franchise. People might know her in addition from being from Aunty Donna and Average Bear on Paramount+. You might know her from an episode of Dugon. Yeah, an award-winning episode of Dugon. Oh, I didn't know that.

One of the Golden Crab, I think. It did. Yeah. In which she recapped the entirety of the Fast and Furious franchise. And we thought, look, it's one week until the Fast X, Fast 10 Year Buttholes full trailer is coming out, and we thought there's one more week before we can do just absolute rampant speculation based on absolutely nothing.

Yep. And the Fast X promo poster is out and we're like, we need a bona fide expert. Yeah, we need someone who knows what they're doing. So you've actually got it on your phone and you've got it faced out. I've saved it. I've saved it for the first look for with you guys. Do you want to hear?

Yeah, 100%. But if you don't say wow, this has all been a waste of time. If you have a pre-canned response, that would be great. All right. No, I'm ready. Okay. Hang on. Hang on. Yeah, okay. Yeah. No, I'm ready. Okay. Hang on. Hang on.

Yeah, okay. Yeah. No, very. Okay. The end of the road begins. Does it feel like it could be from any movie except for the first one? Yes. Yes, it does.

You know, like there's not, I don't feel like there's anything kind of like. There's no clues. No, there's no clue. It's just like what Vin Diesel has looked like for the past 18 years. But I do think having looked at that poster, I feel like maybe he went to like the production designer or photographer and he's like, okay, well, this is Fast X. Yep.

So maybe I should be wearing my X. And like, what? You know, my X with Jesus on it. The X with Jesus on it. You know, my Jesus X. Yeah. Absolutely. So how does that feel?

Does it excite you at all? It feels solemn. It feels sensual. I'm very, very excited for this film. I am slightly concerned they're going to CGI Paul Walker in. I have a note. Do you have a bad feeling that Paul Walker is going to return? Yeah, because he just keeps, Vin Diesel on Instagram keeps posting.

I know, right? Fast one trailers and just like all of this. Like he's not really focusing on anything else other than Paul Walker. Yeah. Sometimes you need to let dead men be dead. I completely agree. Not in Hollywood. No, not in Hollywood.

Not in Hollywood, baby. How do you feel about that idea in general? Because like, you know, they'll obviously get his brothers back to play him and it's all, you know, he's family all supportive, et cetera, and so forth. But it always feels ghoulish, like every time. I guess the first time I get it because he was alive when they were filming that and so they finished the movie. The first one makes sense.

Yeah. That all makes sense. We need to finish filming this movie. It's kind of a tribute to him as a film. It depends on how they use him. But it would, I mean, listen, if some car, like if it's like, you know, Dark Knight of the Soul, Vin's about to be killed, everyone else is on the ground, a car pulls up and it's Brian's car

and Paul Walker's CGI ghost gets out of that car, I will scream. I will be like the happiest girl in the whole world. Even if it's ethically unsound, it makes me feel horny. Yeah, fair enough. Maybe he's got the kids in the back. Yeah. Got guns. Maybe they do. Because he's always babysitting. That's what he's always, Uncle Brian.

It's also really weird how they've treated him in the franchise because, like, in the real world he's obviously dead and we all know that. But he's alive in the movies but they also talk about him like he's dead. Yeah, like he's retired. Yeah. I don't know why he looks after the kids all the time.

I don't know. I just, I mean, they had that, the last one that he was in was like, you know, he's had enough of the bullets and he just wants to drive minivans and I don't know. But then he's like the mother of his children is there and doing all the adventures and I don't know. Yeah, he doesn't mind her going out and risking her life. I never believed in that relationship, if I'm honest, from the get-go.

Yeah, it wasn't the best vibe. No. Well, the thing is, in real life he was attracted to younger women. That is a factor. Which is kind of a full-on thing. It's good to not explore that. I completely agree. Isn't it good?

You could just let that part of yourself, if you have it, just maybe just let it sit idle. You know? Like a car. Like an idling WRX. Yes! Just pop it in a box. Don't look at it. Don't let anyone look at it. Just shush, shush, shush. Yeah, absolutely.

I was going to say, what barriers are left to explore? Deep sea. I've been thinking about this a lot, and explore. Deep sea. Because we went to space. Oh, yeah. I've been thinking about this a lot and I think deep sea. Space of the water. The space of the earth. Yeah.

He's a real space of the earth kind of guy. I just feel like space would be where else are we going to go? Either it's just street racing or we're going to the bottom of the ocean. Oh, yeah, maybe they go back to basics. Into a volcano maybe. That would be pretty rad. That's what they're doing for New Avatar, next New Avatar. They're going to the bottom of the ocean. Oh, yeah, maybe they go back to basics. Into a volcano maybe. That would be pretty rad. That's what they're doing for new Avatar, next new Avatar. They're going to a volcano.

You know, I haven't seen The Way of Water, but I have seen Wakanda Forever, which I think is the same. They're not dissimilar. Yeah. Well, you know, the Avatars are there and they're doing their thing. Certainly it's Blue Wonder Water people. Who do you think is coming back? I feel like at this point.

Isn't literally everyone. Gal Gadot is coming back apparently even though she fell out of that plane. Yeah, that makes 100%. Like of course she's not dead. Of course she's not dead. And will she reunite with Han? Like what's going to happen? Yeah, exactly.

Because that was a love story for the ages. That one felt real to me. It felt so real. I like that one. I cried the first time when she was like, where do you want to go next? And like he would always say somewhere else before Tokyo and then he finally was like Tokyo and it was like, no. Don't go to Tokyo.

No, don't go. And then it's like, it doesn't matter if you go to Tokyo because you're unbreakable. Well, we were talking about this recently. What did you think about the reveal that Han just wasn't in that car that exploded? He was across the street. He just wasn't. I loved it. He loved it. I was like, yeah, I'm on board. This is the the street. He just wasn't. I loved it. He loved it.

I was like, yeah, I'm on board. This is the correct attitude. We're too critical. You're right. We've ruined our lives with cynicism where we're like, I want a rational explanation. I don't think we should go in there like that. Opposite of a cynic.

Yeah. Like, yeah. Honestly, it's a huge, I can't believe that I'm not in some religious cult. Like, I am so, I will just get on board. I've watched every season of Doctor Who. No matter how bad it is, I'm like, that's all right. Don't worry about it. That's canon now.

I love that. I stopped when Peter Capaldi came in on a tank playing a guitar and I'm like, I don't think this is, I'm going to come back. That's because you're dead inside, James. Yeah, exactly. Like I watch the start of every season but obviously, you know, Tenet's coming back and, you know, you always want to see what a new Doctor does. Tenet coming back? James. Yeah, exactly. Like I watch the start of every season, but obviously, you know, Tennant's coming back and, you know, you always want to see what a new doctor does.

Tennant coming back? Yeah. That was crazy. Okay, my prediction in Fast 10, your seatbelts, is that David Tennant's coming back. All right then, great. Yeah, he's coming and Billy Piper as Rose. That would be one.

I would love that actually. That would be really delightful. And a motorcycle with a sidecar. That's right. And she's driving though. Yes. Oh, wow, that makes you think. He's the kind of person that would be delightful. And a motorcycle with a sidecar. That's right. And she's driving though. Yes. Oh, wow, that makes you think. He's the kind of person that would be like, I'll go in the sidecar.

I think the guy who, the one guy who hasn't come back yet, and maybe I've mentioned this to you, James. Yeah. Remember the guy that's killed in the drive-by in the first one? Oh, yeah. A goofy guy? A goofy guy? He gets into debt.

A goofy guy? Yeah, he's like, I'll bring him up. He's all just a young little goofy guy. He gets machine guns. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah, because they're trying to save him. But he's stuffed up. He's screwed up. Yeah., he's like, I'll bring him up. He's all just a young little goofy guy. He gets machine guns. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah, because they're trying to save him. But he's stuffed up. He's screwed up.

Yeah. Apparently he's back. Oh, that's great. Oh, he is back. Apparently he's back. And like the guy from the random guy who came back in the last film who was just like the random driver guy who was like, I'm here and I'm kind of doing space stuff.

I love that. I love that just every extra will come back. Maybe Ja Rule will come back. Oh, yeah. I think Ja Rule's bitter. He is bitter. He should be. He fucked up.

He turned it down. Yep. He thought he was too good. Now look at him. Idiot. Not in these movies. Okay, one more question then. All right.

I'm ready. Is it for me? It's for the room. Every, like, the last three or four or five or six of these, it's like there's a bad guy and then they slowly come in. You join the family. You join the family. Yeah, which is beautiful.

What if in this one there's a horrific betrayal and who would it be? Like within the family. Within the family. Somebody, like, they take it and they turn it. Mamma mia. Yeah, right? Well, I think Charlize has to join the family. Yeah.

It's okay. Who is she related to in these movies? Is she like Statham's sister? Yeah, maybe. Is that somebody else? Is it Helen Miriam's daughter? Helen Miriam is Statham's mum. And Luke, Statham's brother who was in the coma.

Yes. Luke Evans in real life. Yes. But maybe she's not related. No, I don't think she's related. Huh. She's just a badass. Maybe she can marry into the family. But maybe she's not related. No, I don't think she's related. Huh. She's just a badass. Maybe she can marry into the family.

She'll marry into the family. Maybe Gal Gadot resurfaces. She is dating Cypher. And now it's like Charlize and Gal and, like, Gal's torn between her past. Yeah, yeah. She's going to go in and get them, but then she sees Han. She's like, oh, my God, Han's back.

What do I value more, money or my family? But if Charlize is my family, maybe everyone's my family and then they're barbecued. Okay, that's perfect. Well, that's also similar to what happened when Michelle Rodriguez came back and was like, I don't remember being in a family and then she's like, actually, I do. I remember now.

It was good. It was good. She roars. She does, doesn't she? Yeah. What are you going to do after? Oh, sorry. Look, I've just got a lot of questions that have been building up. Yeah't she? Yeah. What are you going to do after? Oh, sorry. Look, I've just got a lot of questions that have been building up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you going to do after 11? It's not going to stop, though, right? No, it's not going to stop. You're right. Just wait for 12, I guess. Yeah. Are you going to watch Fast and Furious Animated Adventures

or whatever that little show for kids was? Oh, yeah, there's that Netflix series. Oh, on the Netflix. No, I have not watched that. No. I hope they continue the Hobbs and Shaw franchise, to be completely honest. Really? Yeah, I loved Hobbs and Shaw. I told you I am not watched that. No. I hope they continue the Hobbs & Shaw franchise, to be completely honest. Really?

Yeah, I loved Hobbs & Shaw. I told you I am not a cynic. No, you're right. Okay, we fight at dawn and then it's suddenly midnight or the opposite way around and now it's a storm. I don't care if it's only been half an hour. It can be any type of lighting you want. I believe in you, Hobbs & Shaw.

Do whatever you want. It wasn't so much the lighting, I think, of that movie. It was like... You didn't think that was lighting, I think, of that movie. It was like. You didn't think that was crazy? I didn't think about it. Okay. In this universe, there's half an hour of night time and then it's dawn again.

It was quite mad. Yeah. That's right, because they showed up and he was like, I'm ready with all my Samoan family or whatever. Yeah, which was amazing. And then he was holding a truck in the side of a cliff. He was just holding a truck. Yeah.

But just like he had like nanotechnology, the bad guy that meant he could like punch people through time or whatever was happening. I just kind of, I don't know. And that's how David Tennant gets in. Actually. This is my theory. If they brought that back around, then that's fine.

There's a different version of me that like sits inside a dark room and writes fan fiction. Here's a question. Oh, wow. I thought we were done with questions. All right. Because The Rock doesn't want to do them anymore. He's been very publicly like, I hate you Vin Diesel.

Stop texting me. You're too dad. I know my dads are fighting. But I think also, I think maybe I have a new dad. I'll talk about it later. All right. I'm shy. Okay.

Getting some Dave Bautista vibes or the Ronald Weasley guy. I don't know. We'll see. We'll talk about it. Ronald Weasley cannot be my dad because he was my sexual awakening. Okay, that's probably it. No, you're right. That's a great point.

I'm glad we clarified that. He was all of our sexual awakenings, right? Yeah. Yeah. I remember we had that phone call. We were like, yep, same time, right? Are you feeling weird about this in your pants? I got that MSN notification.

Oh, it's Michelle and James. All right, here we go. Finally something to talk about with this. Anyways, your new show. Can you just like just talk about it? What's happening? Tour dates, all of it. Yes.

Okay. All right. So Average Bear, my Average Bear tour. Yeah. Okay. So Average Bear, which you can see on Paramount Plus if you are in Australia. But if you're in London, you can see it March, I think it's the 6th. It'll be in the show notes.

To the 12th. It'll be in the show notes. I can bring up the dates. Yeah, so it's like the first or second week of March in London at Soho Theatre. It's about a bear who's afraid to go into hibernation. Her friends keep calling her and they're like, babe, we're at hibernation.

We're doing shots. Where are you? Is that a metaphor for your life? Is that a metaphor for your life, Michelle? Or is it real. We're doing shots. Where are you? Is that Naomi Higgins? Is that a metaphor for your life? Is it real? It is a metaphor. It's real. No, it's real.

It's a real band. And, yes, it's played by Naomi Higgins and Mish Wittrip. That's what I thought. Well picked. And a lot of people at Edinburgh Fringe Festival coming out and being like crying, wiping their tears away and then being like, was it Naomi and Mish? And I was like, yes, it was. But, yes, it was. But, yeah, so it's about this bear and it's also about me and my family and a genetic disorder that we share and loss

and a fire and learning to walk again and chisels and, yeah, just making a choice of like, you know, if you found out you had less time to live than the average bear, how would you spend your life? How would you spend your time? So, yeah, that's what it's about. It's got songs. It's a very, listen, it's going to be good. Like it's award winning.

It is good. It is good. We've both said it. I've done it enough times now to say it's good. It's very rarely had an unsold seat. Like it's just, it's a solid one. I've done crap work before, but this is reliable. Name one of the things.

No, don't. My fan fiction about David Tennant. No, that was good. I disagree. That's good. Some, don't. My fan fiction about David Tennant. No, that was good. I disagree. That's good. Some of your best. The logic was bulletproof in that, I thought. Now, I've seen Average Bear Live.

James has seen it on Paramount+. Twice. No, sorry, I listened once and I watched the other talk. Regardless of what format you see it in, it's a great show. Yeah. People should. Completely great. Question, though.

Yes. Do people in London know what a cheesel is? Well, I say Cheez-Its. Nice. Yeah. Don't worry. I'm culturally aware. Okay, great. I come to the table. All right, good. Yes. Do people in London know what a cheesel is? Well, I say Cheez-Its. Nice. Yeah. Don't worry. I'm culturally aware. Okay, great.

I come to the table. All right, good. Yeah. Also, you've got some Legacy as well because you're touring around Australia. Yes, Legacy is my new show, which is so funny that like Legacy is the big theme of Fast 10. Yes. And it's not a Fast 10 show.

I just want to clarify it's not about that. I mean it could be. It's good to hit that on the head though. Yeah. Let people know what they're walking into. It's not about that. It's about essentially it's about choosing to have dogs instead of children. Yeah.

And it asks the question if. Oh, I should have done one or the other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've made a huge mistake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You only need one to get into the club. Do you want to take my kids or children on the way out? I'll take your dogs.

I love them both so much. I love the old one in particular. I love them both. Thank you very much for the gift of your dogs. What was I talking about? My show. Yeah, Legacy. You're also touring that one.

Yeah. Yes, I'm touring that in Australia and that one. Yeah, it's about like a legacy that I feel like I've been building for a little girl who doesn't exist because she'd absolutely ruin it. And it's just about that. It's about that. It's about women trying to have it all. And it's also about a mystery of this different Michelle Brazier

who I found and about all the different decisions that lead you to be a different person. Yeah, it's just a search for this girl who I ended up with $10.50 of hers. And I tried to track her down and give it back to her. Because, okay, so what happened? You know Mission Zack? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Amarama.

So they were having a little showing and I had a comp ticket. I went along at the Lido Cinema. I went and I was obviously surrounded by, you know, Donna fans because it's a Zack event. So I had a little hat on and I was like you know just trying to blend in I don't mind being recognized but if it's at an event like that I'm like oh I don't want to cause a disruption because I'm such a celeb um so we put on a hat and I went up to the front of the line and I was like hi I've got uh some tickets for Michelle Brazier and they went had a look they were like no there's no tickets for Michelle Brazier I was like don't say my name and then they were like I was like they're comp tickets and they're like, hi, I've got some tickets for Michelle Brazier. And they went and had a look. They were like, no, there's no tickets for Michelle Brazier. I was like, don't say my name.

And then they were like, I was like, they're comp tickets. And they're like, oh, you should have said they were comps. I was like, I didn't know that I should. I'm sorry. And then they went away. You should have said that. Yeah, they went away again. They came back and they were like, there's no comp tickets in the comp area, but there

is this. And they gave me an envelope, a Lido branded envelope. And on it had been written Michelle Brazier and then a dollar sign. And they handed it to me. And I said, is this the tickets? They said no. And I said, okay. And I opened it up and it had $10.50 and mostly coins.

And I said, are the tickets $10.50? They said no. And I said, okay, this isn't mine. You take this back and I'll buy a ticket. And they said, well, we can't accept this. And I said, why? And they said, we don't take cash. And I said.

We only give cash. We only give cash. We only give cash to the leader. So, yeah, so then I went on a mission to try and track down this other Michelle Brazier because I'd never met one before. Yeah. And so, yeah, and then it became this obsession with, like, you know, this version of me who I could have been and what's her legacy look like.

Was that the genesis of the idea for the show? Yes. Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was that. Awesome. Yeah. Well, we'll link all that below.

Yeah. Your website specifically, which has all the tour dates and various videos and things that you've been in. That's my manager good. Yeah, look at all this. It's like a real website. That photo was taken by Evan Munro-Smith. Ah.

I mean, some of your TV credits aren't here, but, you know. Did they mention that you won that big crab or whatever? Is that on here? No, the crab's not on there. It should get its own page. You're probably right. Big crab. Crab.

Big crab win on the show. Praise you. ABC TV's Mad as Hell. Great show. Utopia, Get Crackin'. History. You've done it all, Michelle. I literally have been on many shows.

It's absurd. It's a legacy. That's true. And this one, which we appreciate. Now, before we get. Title of the show. Now, before we get into Knock at the Cabin, it's well known, Mason and I have discussed this, that you love a romp. You love the movie Jungle Cruise.

Yes. Which also gets a little bit of play. I love Jungle Cruise. Nobody's ever said that, but that's okay. That's great. We tricked you. I also love Jumanji. No, I love Jumanji, yeah. Like every Jumanji. New, old, whatever. I love Jumanji. I also love Jumanji. No, I love Jumanji, yeah.

Like every Jumanji. New, old, whatever. I love Jumanji. I don't disagree with that. I met, I didn't, okay, so I became friends with Karen Gillan's husband. Oh, really? And I didn't know that it was, that they were married and then she was sitting in the dressing room.

We were sharing a dressing room. She was sitting there and I have never felt so panicked in my life because I just kept saying to Timo, I just kept saying, Jumanji, Jumanji, Jumanji, Tim Jumanji. And, yeah, it was quite a lot and I hope she didn't hear it and I hope she never finds out. So I shouldn't say it in a public place. Yeah, probably not.

I'm probably going to tell him next time I see him. I'm just going to have to say listen to me. You simply must know. You've got the Amy Pond thing as well. Yeah, there's a lot. That's a lot going on there. She's a large figure in my life and I did not know that she was going to be

just a wife of a friend. Yeah, bizarre. Anyway, so what I guess I'm leading up to is that Knock at the Cabin is not what you traditionally call a romp, I guess. I wish it was a better week for you to come on to discuss a movie. I'm okay.

I just want to apologise. Not because I think it's I'm okay. Yeah. I just want to apologize. Not because I think it's a terrible movie necessarily, but, you know, I just want to put that out there. Anyway, we normally talk box office up top. It costs $20 million. It's made like $14.5 million in the US. It's partially financed by M. Night himself and there's some kind of deal with Universal.

It's based on a book called The Cabin at the End of the World, which is a better title. Knock at the Cabin. Yeah. It doesn't like. I want to talk about that. It doesn't like, which is a better title. Knock at the Cabin. Yeah, it doesn't like. I want to talk about that. It doesn't like. Knock at the Cabin. Knock at the Cabin.

I think maybe because you remember Cabin in the Woods? Yeah. I think maybe they're like, that's a bit similar and people think it's the thing with the Christmas. Nobody saw Cabin in the Woods. I loved Cabin in the Woods. Me too. There's a bit of Cabin in the Woods in this.

Do you know the musical? Is it called Cabin in the Woods the musical? Into the Woods? Where three college students on our way to to an old abandoned cabin in the woods. Oh, yeah. You know what it goes like that? I've never heard of it. It's like a parody musical.

No, no. Ah, it's good fun. We're thinking of different cabins in the woods. No, I've seen the other Cabin in the Woods. Okay. Okay, right. Anyway, I have to ask Mason what he thinks the story was. It's part of the show.

I'm sorry. Maybe it's Evil Dead the musical. I don't know. Okay. Please don't at Dead the musical. I don't know. Please don't at me about this. I can't keep up with the internet. There is a lot going on with the internet. I hate it. Yeah, it's bad. It was a mistake, I think.

Somewhere post-MSN. Okay, so there's a little family and they've gone up to a little cabin and there's three of them. There's two dads and a little girl and they're in the cabin and they're having a great time. And then the four people show up. Yeah.

They have Batista and then there's a knock at the cabin. He's so nice. He's so nice. Specifically, there are seven knocks. Oh, I didn't count. Okay. I noticed because I was like, this is an unsettling amount of knocks. It's too many.

I wonder if that's intentional. It was like this. Can they hear me? Can you guys hear me? So there wasn't even like a rhythm. That's sort of a rhythm. Just like that. Yeah.

I was like, what the fuck is this? What do you call this? I think, right. And they're like, let us in. Yeah, let us in. We're going to do a thing. Something's going to happen. I feel like he gets like a bad rap when you consider like his filmography, M. Night.

Because I think there's so much of it is good. Like his early work, obviously. He's incredible. I agree. Like if you look at most directors' filmography, they haven't had this many hits. And I know there's like After Earth and Avatar and whatever, which are not good. You know the Will Smith one? I don't know this.

What is this? Did he direct that? Yeah, he directed it. It's a post-apocalyptic Will Smith and Jaden Smith crash land on Earth in the future and there's like big birds and stuff. I haven't seen it. I mean, that sounds like a romp. It does.

It does, but it's universally not loved. Have you guys seen Journey to the Centre of the Earth and Journey 2? I've seen the original but none of the newer ones, not the Brendan Fraser one. Oh, you newer ones. Not the Brendan Fraser one. Oh, you've got to watch that Brendan Fraser one. It's very good. That's the first one before he didn't get replaced by The Rock, right?

Yes. Because the second one was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, what's your history with this guy? Have you enjoyed his work? We go way back. We were lovers. M. Nightmare. No, I like him.

Yeah. I mean, I think if old hadn't been called old, it wouldn't have been so upsetting. Yeah. I think like that. There's just particular decisions that I'm like, you may have a weird decision. But I mean, like, the sixth sense is like,

there's so many, like, when we just think about, like, twists, you just think about this person. Like, he's a cultural icon yeah and he has cool hair which is how i judge a person yeah he makes a little cameo in every movie i know he's like such a cutie he's like i'm just being in my movie don't don't look at me i'm in the movie who am i gonna be this time yeah it's so cute stan lee yeah absolutely i mean i i enjoyed old a lot and i think like the ridiculousness of it, like the premise alone and the fact that when we talked about it,

we called it the beach that makes you old and just saying like that again and again. I just loved everything about it and the idea. And it's just so bizarre and the way that people interact with each other is weird because it's not how people talk to each other like at all. No, no. Which I like.

I loved it. Yeah. It was a weird little arthouse move and I loved it. I just love that he's so powerful that he can go, guys, there's a beach that makes you old. And to escape, you have to, spoilers, go through a coral tunnel. What do you think? And everyone goes, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there'll be a rapper there and his name is Midsize Sedan. What do you think about that? But, yeah, I mean, I think he's a cool guy. I mean, I've never met him, even though we were lovers. It was online. It was through MSN. Sure.

I also admire. Oh, it's so nice. He seems to be texting me on MSN Messenger being like, have you seen that Rupert Grint in Harry Potter? Excuse me. I love also that he's gone more independent because he kind of made these big budget things and he's talked about how like he kind of got caught up in the system and last week he was talking

about how with like The Last Airbender, which is atrocious, how the like he just leaned into the studio system and trusted that that kind of would carry him through this project and he realised that this isn't really the things he wants to make and then he started. Like Iron Man. Like Iron Man. Like Iron Man, exactly.

Like when Thingo made Chef, which is an allegory for Iron Man. Exactly. I hope anyone knows what I'm talking about, just anyone. No, no, people know. I love Chef. Ben, who edits for us, he made a video on that specifically, like Chef being an allegory for like the Iron Man franchise and Jon Favreau and whatever.

Cool, I love Jon Favreau. I know, right? I love big men. He looks very cuddly. Well, we feel very inadequate then. I love tiny men. Oh, thank you. But medium-sized men, get out of here.

Not regular-sized men, not a mid-sized sedan man. Yeah. I think also with these movies, and I didn't like this one as much as Old, you really just kind of have to buy into the premise. Like you just have to be like, okay, this is happening and it's silly and there's a lot of like if you think about the wider world and the existence of God and the apocalypse and all these things, it's like I don't think this makes much sense.

Well, my first question when I walked out was like is M. Night a Christian? Right. I was like this feels like propaganda. Well, which one? Which one? It wasn't Signs. Was it The Visit? Well, Signs is about like lack of faith.

Yeah. Mel Gibson's wife gets like smashed by a car and whatever. Yeah. That's the one I'm thinking of. But also The Village is about that as well, isn't it? I haven't seen it in a long time. Oh, The Village. Bit of fun.

Oh, God. I guessed the twist and I thought like. You guessed that twist. I felt like Mulder or Scully. I felt so smart. Yeah. I think what I thought was one of the downsides of this movie was not so much the little girl in it.

It's the fact that she gets this like weird adult dialogue and then she just like clings to a man for the rest of the movie and doesn't like participate. I think. And she's just kind of like there and that's kind of it. I thought she was a cool kid. But, yeah, give her more stuff to say. When she's talking to the grasshoppers, she seems really like kind of it. I thought she was a cool kid but, yeah, give her more stuff to say. When she's talking to the grasshoppers, she seems really, like,

aware of stuff. I guess that, like, they put that scene there to be like, this is the woman who has hopes and dreams and a future. So it's like, you know, there's context for what we stand to lose. Important. But, yeah, she didn't talk much in the end. I saw a very mean tweet a long time ago about M. Night Shyamalan that was basically like, all these movies look so gorgeous

but the dialogue is like atrocious. Like it was like he's Spielberg and Tommy Wiseau in the same guy kind of thing. And I think like this movie looks so much like speaking of the grasshoppers, just that opening scene where she's collecting the grasshoppers, that was incredible. The shots in and out of the cabin, the way they kind of like move between, yeah. I think so much of that just looks great but it's just like this. There is some clunky dialogue, isn't there?

Like when Dave Bautista says to her, like she's collecting the little crickets and he's collecting the crickets and then they're having a conversation with the flowers and he says to her, oh, I'm sorry, that's too much of a personal question even for this game. And it's like, what's this game? What do you mean even for this game? What are you talking about? There's also this weird disconnect of like his great cinematography

but then, and I don't know if you guys would agree with this, but like whenever they cut to like there's a cutaway to like a TV screen or like a remote location or something like that where like the rest of the movie feels so real. Yeah. And then it's like, and now let's watch this. Let's turn the news on. And it's like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.

News time, everybody. It's news time, everybody. But I had a question about that that was like, well, maybe that's on purpose. I think it does now. Yeah. And I saw it today and I can't stop thinking about it. Yeah.

I think I liked it. It is. Yeah, I agree. Now, I know you hinted at, like, you may be in love with and is your dad now. I'm assuming that's Dave Bautista and his giant performance. Daddy! Wasn't he so nice with his glasses and his button-up shirt? They were like, how are we going to make this man look gentle?

He'll put him in a little button-up with short sleeves and beautiful glasses. There's a part where he like loses his glasses, then he like fumbles and picks them up, puts them on, and I went, oh. Oh, he's film-ed it. He's so film-ed. Oh, he's so beautiful.

What a sweet, sweet man. I saw that thing this week where he was talking about how he's never been in a rom-com. He was like, I'll never be a romantic lead. I don't think that's true. I'll never be in a rom-com. I think they should put him in a rom-com. They could totally be in a rom-com.

They'll put him in a rom-com. Yeah, put him in a rom-com. I'd put him in a rom-com. He'd be put him in a rom-com. Yeah, put him in a rom-com. I'd put him in a rom-com. He'd be great. He's so likeable. Yeah, he really is. Like, of all the actors turned wrestlers, and this isn't, like, a controversial opinion,

he's easily, like, the best. Better than Hulk Hogan. It's a bit of a commando. Well, everyone loves commando Santa with muscles, et cetera, for Three Ninjas and High Noon. But, no, like, he's so subtle and. He's a lot tidier. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess also he's been working no, like he's so subtle. He's a lot tied in.

And I guess also he's been working on like that. Like The Rock is working on being like the biggest actor in the world. He's a star. Exactly. It's a different kind of thing. Dave Bautista's like, I want to be a storyteller. I'm like, you're so big. I wonder if Dave Bautista started out like wanting to be just an actor,

but then he was too big and they're like, well, your other option is to be a wrestler. That makes sense because wrestling is like that. I've been to wrestling school. Really? Yeah. We had to go for an Aunty Donna sketch where I beat up all the boys. Oh, I love that one.

Yeah, at like Melbourne City Wrestling. That's amazing. The levels of depth in that sketch also. The madness of it. That was an M night. Yeah. How was that? Really fun. Doing that stunt work. That was an M night. Yeah. How was that? Really fun.

Doing that stunt work. It was so cool. The main thing I came away with was like, oh, okay, so it still really hurts. Oh, yeah. You're not going to kill each other and you know what's coming, but it still really hurts. You're still really putting yourself.

It's like lessening the impact, is it? Like it's hurting yourself as little as possible. Yeah, and just like ways that you can make it sound bigger. Like I learn about like when you fall on the ground, you like slap, you slap the ground. But it also like you increase the area of your body so it's less of a shock because your body is bigger and it has more surface area to take that shock.

Things like that. And, you know, learning how to pick up Mark Bonanno. That's something that everyone has to learn on day one. He's bigger than you'd think. He is bigger than you'd think. He's a normal-sized man. He's a mid-sized sedan. People think he's a small man, but it's just that, like,

Broden and Black are incredibly large. There's a tall boy. The sketch is called How to Be Cool because I couldn't remember the name of it. I looked up Auntie Donna Bullying and there's, like, three other skits that have bullying in the name. So it's called How To Be Cool because I couldn't remember the name of it. I looked up Aunty Donna Bullying and there's like three other skits that have bullying in the name. So it's called How To Be Cool.

That's a great series, Glenridge. It was fun, huh? Yeah. Anyway, Jonathan Groff, Ben Aldridge, really good as the two dads. He's from Fleabag. He's like the sexy one that she's sleeping with at the start of Fleabag. Yeah. And then he disappears later because she's like,

I'm not doing sex anymore. And he's like, oh, boo. Man, Fleabag. Yeah. And then he disappears later because she's like, I'm not doing sex anymore. And he's like, oh, boo. Man, Fleabag. Fleabag's so good. I thought you were going to be like, Fleabag sucks. No, Fleabag's so good. Remember when, remember in Fleabag, I don't know if you guys feel the same.

You're both straight. Is that correct? Correct. Yes. Okay, so I don't know if you still feel it as straight men. I'm sorry, I'm Oprah-ing this. I don't know if you feel it as straight men still, but there's a scene in the second season where she's like, you know,

in love with this priest and the priest, and she looks at the priest, spoilers, and then she's like desperate, just like, fuck this priest, and then the priest looks at her and he says, Neil? Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about, yeah. Did that? Yeah, no, definitely. That? Yeah. That's the most, no, definitely. That?

Yeah. That's the most, that's the horniest thing that's ever happened to me and I was on a plane. Like that is crazy. That resonated through time. The ripple effects of that still happen. That's how David Tennant got through into Fast 10 was that, the hole created by that. Yeah.

I know we're talking about this other thing, but. Are we though? No, no, this is it. This is the show. Do you think she's going to bring it back? No. I don't think she should, but I think there's always the, like what's his name?

Ricky Gervais did the fucking David Brent movie. I don't know if you've seen it, but it's like, it's atrocious. And like nobody else is in it. It's just him. No, she won't do that. Yeah, I hope not. She's too busy writing a Tomb Raider. She's making money. She's busy. Yeah, no, you're right. You're absolutely right.

I guess before we do spoilers, was this like an explanation of what was happening? Because we didn't, I guess we haven't really talked about it, but the idea is that this family have to perform a certain act to potentially avert an apocalypse. They're going to put on a show. Yeah, they're going to put on a big show. No, they don't. I'm just saying, yes, Andy,

but that's not true. But were you, like, satisfied? Because, like, the reveal is, like, it's either true or it isn't. Like, you know, it's not like a twist you don't see coming because it's, like, it's two options. Yeah. And I think there is that sense of, sixth sense even, of going into his movies where you're expecting like a big twist

whereas this isn't necessarily about the twist. I don't know. I've not expected a big twist from Shyamalan in a long time, I don't think. I was waiting for a big twist. Ah. That's what I'm saying. I was looking for it and I was like, well, we're going to twist it. Which way are we twisting?

Yeah. Anyway, I guess we'll do spoilers. I thought it was the best movie ever. I thought I had a delightful time. Yeah. The performance was really good except for the dialogue. Beautiful performances. Beautiful Dave Bautista.

So beautiful. He's beautiful. I don't like it when he grows his hair out. I like him keeping it like. I haven't seen him with his hair growing out. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan. He's so funny in Guardians of the Galaxy. He's beautiful. I don't like it when he grows his hair out. I don't like him keeping it like. I haven't seen him with his hair growing out. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan. He's so funny in Guardians of the Galaxy. He is.

And he's not doing it anymore. He's like, that's it. I know, it's sad. That's all you get. But he's so good. You know that bit where he's like standing still and he thinks he's invisible, but he's not? That's such a beautiful. And there's so many like not good, you know, big, large commercial films.

Disagree. Comedy stuff. They're all good here. No, you don't want to be. Like, it's like the jokes are never good because they're so watered down through like a thousand different execs. Yeah, yeah. That is a beautiful and subtle performance that got through the edit

and I just love that it made it through. Yeah, when a weird thing gets into like a $200 million movie. It's really funny and really good. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, I think best movie ever. Michelle, you don't have to agree. Best movie ever. All right, let's do it.

I just saw this tweet and I just thought I'd bring this up. We're in spoilers now. It's spoilers time. It's spoilers time. So many spoilers. Oh, let's go. All right, first of all, the thing that I love the most about this movie is it brought back we pan across the entire world to see what's happening.

Oh, yeah. And I love the part where we went to Sydney and not only did we get the Sydney Opera House and we got the Sydney Harbour Bridge, but we got an airline that had crashed in. That said Australia. It said Australia on it. I didn't see that. It just said Australia on it.

Like, that's our airline. We've got Australia airline. I didn't see that. You didn't want to spring for Qantas or whatever or even put, like, Ansett on it. Yeah. It was just like, no. Yeah, maybe people don't know.

Maybe people don't know where the Sydney Opera House is anymore, but I'd love to set on it. Yeah. It was just like. Australia. Yeah, maybe people don't know. Maybe people don't know where the Sydney Opera House is anymore. But I'd love to return to it. Absolutely. There's nothing better, I think, than when it's an alien invasion movie or something like that and it's just we pan to Sydney and it's like, we were part of this too. We did it. I love it.

It is Sydney. They should go to a Melbourne laneway. I agree. A cafe. Some people having a coffee. They should pan across Hardware Lane in the city and be like, yeah, we didn't actually know what was going on. I love it.

I always think what would it be like if you lived in New York City because you'd see like your city destroyed so many times. Yeah, I know, right? You'd have an action plan, right? Would you be bored of it? Would you go again with this? I think I would just be watching it every time and being like, well, this guy fucked up this way because you can go left on,

blah, blah, blah. Yeah, exactly. Like I, you know, when someone is asking for a toilet in the Melbourne CBD, I'm like, well, this guy fucked up this way because you can go left on, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, exactly. When someone is asking for a toilet in the Melbourne CBD, I'm like, you've made a terrible mistake. You need to go this way. Like, it would be that. What are you doing?

Butterflat or whatever. Somebody coming out of off your tree. We did it, folks. So, yeah, I saw this tweet from Brian Duffield who says, Shyamalan is the ultimate example that if you put another filmmaker's name on his movies most of the film twitter would act like it was a masterpiece and if you put his name on another movie they act like that they loved they'd call it a piece of shit do you think there's truth to that to like you put his name on something people like this guy sucks now i think people bully him yeah yeah i think people bullies and they need to chill out

and he has great hair i agree with both of those things yeah anyways a spoiler it was real it was a big apocalypse that was happening was it was it though do you think it was all in the mind we should check whether it was a coincidence it could it could be a coincidence fair i mean the planes the only thing we have is that one plane that fell out of the sky that's the only thing that we saw in real life oh because the rest of the other ones on the tv i mean that would be a big coincidence that a plane fell out of the sky that is saw and a storm. Oh, because the rest of them were on the TV. I mean, that would be a big coincidence that a plane fell out of the sky. But there are big coincidences. That is true.

And people of faith make, you know, we love telling stories. People love telling stories. We grab on to any evidence we can and we make something big of it. But sometimes it is just chaos. I loved that. I loved that it was just that one little glimmer. And then obviously there's a storm. I don't know.

I don't know if it was saying, yes, it definitely happened. I mean it definitely leant towards that more than anything else. I guess also the implication is that like those who were left, which is one of the dads who's not Jonathan Groff and the little girl, they have to believe that it was real because otherwise they shot a guy for no reason. And that's how we find faith. Yeah.

Oh, man, I can't believe I had to shoot a guy for no reason. Your dad. I had to shoot your dad. And, like, you know that flash forward where they see, like, it was like she's doing a job she loves and you're laughing. I was like, has she been to therapy? Because I feel like she's really had a hard start to life now. What did he tell her?

Was he like, yeah, I shot other dad? I think, yeah, she knew because she was like, did he, did daddy, whatever his name was, save all the children or something like that? Yeah. Save everyone. That's true. And he just cries. I think it's like, I don't know, it was very, to me, I was like,

I'm sorry, is this a Christian propaganda film? In terms of like this gay man of faith sacrifices his life with the man he loves for the sake of humanity so that God doesn't send more plagues and stuff. And planes. Hang on a second. I don't know about these. Yeah, I just felt a little like, ooh. Also, did the right dad die?

Well, that's a great question. Did the right dad die? Jonathan Groff is amazing. Because we know one of them had to die. Yeah, he's right dad die? Well, that's a great question. Did the right dad die? Jonathan Groff is amazing. Because we know one of them had to die. Yeah, he's in Frozen and Frozen 2. The Matrix. He's in the new Matrix, you know. Here's something interesting which might answer some questions or no questions.

Is it the Wikipedia article? Yeah, it is. Here we go. Everyone get ready. So in the book, what happens is that there's a scuffle and the daughter is accidentally shot and killed. Yes. And as a result of that, that death apparently isn't good enough

to appease the gods, spirits, the universe, whatever's controlling all this. Which is so fucked up. I know. That is fucked. I think it's cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's cool. But I'm just saying.

Yes, it is cool, basically. It's cool. And then they get to make a decision that one of them then has to sacrifice the other and then they decide not to do it because they're like, what a terrible universe and God, so we're going to let everything burn down. And that's the ending of the book. And does everything burn down? I guess.

Or they just go. I think it's left like ambiguous. Yeah, ambiguous. I don't know. Like is that, does that answer more questions? Like I guess not. I mean, know. Like is that – does that answer more questions? Like I guess not. I mean I think it asks more questions. I think it asks a more interesting question about faith in general.

But, you know, the idea of like if this is what, you know, the gods or God wants, then what kind of God is this? Yeah. I always like that as an interesting question. I love the specifics of like the scenario that this god may be set up. It's like what version of god is this? Why are you like this? Why did you make them build really specific weapons

and hit each other in the head? Yeah, really specifically. And that guy being the guy that attacked them in the bar. Yeah. That was great. Which adds to like it not being true also. Yeah, I couldn't believe that they both believed it by the end. I was like, guys, you can't check your phones.

This could so clearly be just a closed circuit TV. Yeah, and a wind machine. Yeah, like there's no real reason. There could have been a storm coming and they could have terrorist ties. They could have fucking downed that plane. Like if I was them, I would have been like, nah. You're Mark Wahlberg. Absolutely not. Yeah, if you were them, I would have been like, nah. You're Mark Wahlberg. Absolutely not.

If you were them, do you think you would have looked directly at the camera and explained all four of them were the four horsemen of the apocalypse? Do you think you would have just been like? Yeah, yeah, I would have done that. I feel that felt like a reshoot. Weird twist as well. That felt like some people watched this movie and were like,

I'm not sure of the themes of this movie. And then I went, okay, how about we get Jonathan Groff to look into the camera and be like, actually they all represent different people. Yeah. And, like, what was it? Like malice. And guidance and healing.

Making food. And being a big unit. Yeah, big boy. Just being a big boy. Big boy. A big, soft, kind boy. Yeah, that did feel weird. Like, that's not the Four Horsemen.

I'm like, isn't one like. Pestilence. Yeah, one's like angry or something. I don't know. Can't remember. You're thinking of the emotions in Inside Out. I might be thinking of that, yeah. One's mad and one's anxious.

You're thinking of the characters inside Herman's head. Oh, okay. Yeah, I am. The sitcom Herman's Head from the early 90s. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it was a lot to take in. But I don't think, what would you do?

Would you believe it? No. Under those circumstances? I don't think so. I you do? Would you believe it under those circumstances? No, I don't think so. I mean, I grew up like Catholic. It's not something that I follow anymore. I don't know if there's a God. Like I'm not against the idea of it.

And I know, but I refuse to tell. Except on Patreon. We're saving that for a Patreon exclusive. I'm going to reveal whether God is real or not. It's only nine bucks a month, folks. I don't know, but I also love the idea of like why should I do this? Like even if this is true, why the fuck should I do this? Like the Gethsemane song in Jesus Christ Superstar,

the greatest musical ever made to be a rock and roll album in the 1990s. You've seen the compilation, I assume, of all of them screaming why? Yeah. Yeah, of course. What do you think I'm doing with my time? That's a silly question. I apologise. Yeah, of course.

What do you think I'm doing with my time? That's a silly question. I apologise. Yeah, I think like a lot of his films, it feels more like it's like more vibes based than like going in and picking the specifics of it apart, which you can and it's fun to be like weird weapon and whatever. Like I love doing that. But also you just kind of like you said, it's kind of about faith and feeling and truth and existence. And that's kind of how you you said, it's kind of about faith and feeling and truth and existence and that's kind

of how you've got to approach this, I feel. Yeah. And then the question as well is like so every time we've heard of like a murder-suicide or not a murder-suicide, but it would be like a person kills their kid. Yeah, like a ritual murder situation. Yeah. Is it like they save the world?

Because if the world just keeps going on as normal, then it's like, oh, great. Yeah, see, I felt that was quite a compelling through line of the movie where I'm like, well, of course, obviously if you kill your kid or you kill your husband or whatever, of course the world will just keep moving. So it's not going to prove anything, and I thought that was very interesting. Yeah. Yeah, it's about faith. It's a movie about faith.

And Australia Airlines. Australia Airlines. Man, maybe that plane was a weather balloon also or an illusion or a hologram. So true. We don't know. That's so true. Maybe the plane just was there and it just happened to be in the water.

It could have been swimming. It could have been swimming. It's Australia. Everyone swims. Yeah, it's true. Anyways, we're going to move on to the next segment Which is called What We Reading, What We Gonna Read Michelle, we're very happy to have you stick around if you want

It's only a short segment I'm not leaving We're actually going to ask you to leave But I guess we can't now Oh, fuck But anyway, I'll explain the segment after the theme song And then it's, I mean, you'll get it I mean, it's fairly so

I think she's got it already She's probably figured it out already I'm alright Yeah, I get it Alright the theme song and then it's, I mean, you'll get it. I mean, it's fairly so. I think she's got it already. She's probably figured it out already. All right. Yeah, cool. Yeah, I get it. All right. Theme song. I'm doing the theme.

So basically this is a segment which you've probably figured out. We talk about what we've been reading or doing or watching or seeing or what we plan to. Or doing. That's a new one. Yeah, it's whatever, Mason. Maybe you're doing a fun activity. Maybe you're going to Science Works, Mason. Is that still open? I don't know. Yes, it is. Okay, great. I love Science Works.

Yeah, it's cool, right? Oh, do you play the trombone still? Yeah. Cool. I used to play trombone. Really? So did Mason, I think. What? Yeah, we all played the trombone. Jillian Cosgrove, Virginia Gay. Huh. Yeah. We could form a super group. A lot of powerful people who play trombone. I'm trying to think. I don't have it. I. A lot of powerful people who play trombone.

I'm trying to think. I don't have it. I sold it for money. I have a trombone. Yamaha gave me a trombone. Did they? Thank you, Yamaha. Yes, for my last show, Reform, which is also touring to Brisbane Comedy Festival this year

and Edinburgh Fringe Festival. How do you remember all? I mean, they're burnt into you, I assume. Well, I wrote them, so they're easier to remember. I also went to VC. I'm an actor. I'm good at remembering lines. That's the only thing I can remember. We also went to VCs. I'm an actor. I'm good at remembering lines.

That's the only thing I can remember. We've never had anyone in this room with talent before. That's why we're shocked by it. How do you remember stuff? How do you remember all the things that you say and do? That is truly so funny. How do you do a show without a laptop directly in front of you and you just read off the laptop? Isn't that weird?

Oh, dear. The next evolution of humankind is what's happening over here. Absolutely. Did you recently lose a trombone? It wasn't recently. I had a piece published in The Guardian about losing a trombone. But, no, that trombone I lost when I was, like, 14, and I never found it.

I just lost it in my house. You just lost it in your house? Yeah, it's just gone. And I didn't have a big house. I don't know what happened to the trombone. That's weird. There's somebody in the walls of the house just every once in a while. Yeah. Like my dog ate it? I don't know what happened to the trombone. That's weird. There's somebody in the walls of the house just every once in a while. Like my dog ate it?

I don't know. Where is the trombone? It's a full trombone. Did you have a trombone-related question? No, I just wanted to know because you mentioned it in the show and I wanted to bring it up. Yeah, I love trombones. Because you mentioned that you did play it

and I just wanted to know whether you still did. Well, I wasn't, you know, practicing. And then I wanted to put trombone into my show Reform, which is about a man who scams me, who scammed me online. It's a true story again, about a man who scammed me online and instead of going to the police, I became his friend and then eventually his emergency contact. And I wanted to play trombone in that for obvious reasons. You've heard the story now.

You've heard the setup. Of course, you put trombone in that show. So I went to Yamaha. I said, can you give me a trombone? They said, yes. So all you need to do is write a really successful comedy show and they will give you an instrument. You just need a blue tick.

Do you guys have blue ticks? No. You can get whatever you want. We've got brown ticks. I don't know what's going on there. They're like, never give anything free to these guys. Now, next time you could be like, hey, Yamaha, I'm doing a show about motorcycles.

Yeah, I should do that. Free motorcycle? Yeah, I should do that. Is that the same company? Yes. Is that true? Yeah. Get the fuck out of here.

That's crazy. Anyway, what have we been watching or doing or reading or whatever? I watched the TV series Poker Face. Have you guys seen that? Oh, with Natasha Leung. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ryan Johnson wrote some of it. Ryan Johnson? Yeah, it's great. Terrific. I have not seen it yet. It is a, Have you guys seen that? Oh, with – Natasha Lyonne. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rian Johnson wrote some of it. Rian Johnson created it.

Yeah, it's great. Terrific. I have not seen it yet. It is a – do you know the premise? Yeah. Oh, yeah. For people who haven't seen it, it's a – I have plussed my list.

Oh, yeah. That's very good. So it's Natasha Lyonne plays a woman named Charlie who can tell when somebody is lying and gets in all sorts of trouble and it's a sort of – she's on the road and Angela Lansbury style people keep getting murdered around her and she keeps having to solve the murders. Sounds to me like the show Lie to Me with Tim Roth. Exactly.

He also knew that people were lying. I mean it's very like where its influence is on its sleeve. Yeah. Like the title cards are like the Columbo font. Like it's exactly. That's fun. It's 100% like the same thing. And like Columbo it's not the whodunit, it's the how catch him

because you see the murder take place and you know who's done it already. Oh, okay. It's like Columbo and she's chipping away at him. That's fun. She's always getting an inkling, you know. I love her. But she is so charming. She's an absolute delight.

And it's all like all-star guests because everybody likes Rian Johnson. So they're like, okay, we'll get Adrian Brody back. We'll get, you know, Ron Perlman and we'll get et cetera. You know, all the people. That's fun. All the people you like. Absolutely. What about you?

Anything of note or nothing? You can say nothing. I mean there's so many things. I'm going to say, okay, so I've been reading a book. Oh, all right. We don't actually do that. So, yeah. I'm reading a book called Bliss Montage by Ling Ma

and it is so fucking good and funny. There's this bit in like it's sort of a series of short stories kind of thing and in the opening she's like reading this, you read this story and she refers to her husband only as husband and the first time he speaks it's like husband says and she just has like dollar signs in quotation marks. That's all he says because he like works in money. It's so good and like it's interesting and it's funny

and I love it so much. And then I'm watching so many good things. What else am I watching? You go and then I'll say more things. Okay, I'll say a thing. This is actually a thing that I started to watch and then I stopped because I have children and dogs. Inexplicably. That's crazy.

Kunk on Earth. Oh, my God. I love her. Yeah. Diane. What is her name? Her name is Diane Morgan. Diane Morgan.

So she pops up in like a bunch of Charlie Brook stuff over there. She's one of my absolute idols. So fucking funny. And it's like a mockumentary, also documentary about the earth and science and whatever. and it's just nonsense, but also there's a lot of truth in it. Do we have an arrival? It's so funny.

Who is this? What's going on? A child or a dog? I think it's a child. Oh, and dog. Hello. Hello, Ollie. It's dog time, everybody.

It's dog time. Yeah. Ollie, hi. Will Ollie sit on my lap? She's not a huge fan of being picked up. She doesn't like it. Okay, girl. That's okay.

You sit on my lap. Ollie, come back. If you sit on the couch later, she will jump on you. Yeah, absolutely. But, yeah, not a huge fan of being picked up. She doesn't like it. Okay, girl. That's okay. You sit on my lap. Ollie, come back. If you sit on the couch later, she will jump on you. Yeah, absolutely. But, yeah, she doesn't want to be picked up. Of course not. She's an old girl. She deserves respect.

Love Ollie. Anyway, yeah, Kunk on Earth. So, yeah, it's on Netflix. Because I miss the yearly wipes that he did. Yeah. I wrote a note to myself that was like, remember to watch Death to 2020. And it's still on my list, but like three more years have passed.

And I'm like, oh, yeah, time just passes you by, doesn't it? It certainly does. It just passes you on by. But I'll watch Can't Go to Earth. That sounds good. It's so good. I was watching it before I came here. Oh, cool.

Yeah. You were on because I've got this on my list but then I realised that you were actually on the latest episode. There's been five years of Confessions. It used to be Confessions of the Idiots, the podcast, but now it's just Confessions. Confessions, yes. With Sam Peterson. And he did message me. He's like, hey, do you want to come on the latest episode. There's been five years of confessions. It used to be Confessions of the Idiots, the podcast, but now it's just Confessions. Confessions, yes. With Sam Peterson. And he did message me.

He's like, hey, do you want to come on the show again? And I haven't messaged him back, so Sam, I apologise. Oh, my God. I know. I keep doing that to him. Sam is the nicest boy. I know. He's the best.

He's got a dog called Diggs, Missy Diggins. Incredible. Fantastic dog. Guest of the show also with a real Missy Higgins. Yeah, yeah. Amazing get. Anyway, you were on the latest episode also. That wasn't intentional, but I found out before you were

on the most recent one. I was, yeah. Wow. Came out like today or yesterday. Oh, it's a fun romp. It's me and Ruben K, which is a chaotic combination. We're very good friends, Ruben and I, and we will come up with the same punchline immediately.

That sounds exhausting, honestly. I think we are exhausting, honestly. I think we are quite exhausting. Sam did really well to stay above water and not tell us to shut up. Did he get to some confessions at least? I'm not sure. I wasn't listening. I'm sure it's fine.

I'm sure it's fine. Yeah, I think it'll be fine. Who knows? Who can say? Anyone else got a thing that has been whatever's? I've been watching the promos for a show called We Interrupt This Broadcast. Who's that? That looks really good.

It's on Channel 7 and it's got Ben Russell and Michelle Brazier and a bunch of- Oh, this is when you're doing- Greg Larson. God damn, yeah. It looks really cool. I don't know. Promos look cool. I don't know.

There was also a book by the same name published in 1998. That's not the same- Shut up. It was not that. It's a sketch show. It looks really cool. I don't know. Promos look cool. I don't know. There was also a book by the same name published in 1998. That's not the same. Shut up. It was not that. It was a sketch show. Shut up. Sorry. Jesus.

So the sketch is back, hopefully? The sketch is back, baby, unless we fucked it up. Who knows? They finally took a chance on us and did we ruin it or not? There are a lot of moving parts. How many episodes? So many. I actually don't know.

Like so many episodes and they go for a long time and all the sketches are really quick, like two minutes max. Did you also write on it? Yes. And Alistair Trombley-Virtual and Andy Matthews I think have written on it as well. Yeah, yeah. Ben Jenkins, like that whole crew. So they're giving like –

Ben Russell. I was going to say newer comedians, though you guys have obviously been doing it for a while. We're not new. They're giving some comedians a chance as opposed to to say newer comedians, though you guys are obviously been doing it for a while. But it's not the same basis. They're giving some comedians a chance as opposed to some other comedians. Literally, like, yeah, it's just not the people who are now in their 60s, which is a change for Australia.

My God. What a delight. It is a delight, but it's also like, we shouldn't be now getting this show. We should be, like, exactly producing shows for, like, 22 year olds. Like, it's just like there's this real generation gap and they're like, We should be like executive producing shows for like 22-year-olds. It's just like there's this real generation gap and they're like, oh, it's so good that it's a young cast.

I'm like, we're all 30. Like it's not that young. But, yeah, I mean I'm very happy to have the job. I'm not going to complain. Yeah, absolutely. It's lovely and I think all the young people should quit. I was speaking to Andy and Elle about this of like would it be better now for them writing sketches because obviously they work with McAuliffe and they've got their own podcast and all these things

and they're obviously very successful in their own shows. Would it be better to do that now with the internet or like do you think it would have been better in the 90s? And they were like probably better then because like it would have been. In the 90s you could just have like four seasons to figure it out. And they'd pay you like a consistent wage and all of those things and maybe wouldn't like fire you immediately or whatever. Yeah.

Or cancel stuff straight away. And they could be racist, which is what Andy and I want. Yeah. Yeah, classic Andy and I. When does this come out though? March. Awesome. So that's soon.

I think. And you're in Koala Man. I'm in Koala Man. Toot toot. Toot toot. Fucking hell, Michelle. I don't know. I'm busy.

Yeah. I'm a busy girl. It's crazy that I found the time to come out here in between all my trombone practicing and Dave Bautista daughtering. That's true. And you saw a movie for us and we appreciate that. It was so nice because I actually wouldn't have gone to see it if I would have waited for it to come out.

I love a cinema experience. Yeah, it's good, right? I went back to the Lido Cinema, which is the centre of the mystery. I also went to the Lido Cinema. Did you? I went today. Yeah. What time? I didn't go today. I went to the 120 at Lido Cinema. Did you? I went today. Yeah. What time?

I didn't go today. I went to the 120 at Lido Cinema. What the fuck? I was there too. You were. You're a liar. You need to shut up. You're a liar.

Come on. Grow up. I'm sorry. What the hell? I don't know. So there was a trailer for the movie Cocaine Bear. Oh, yeah. Yes, it was a fun trailer.

A trailer I haven't seen before. It was really fun. And, you know, the somewhat true story of a bear that ate a yeah. Yes, it was a fun trailer. A trailer I haven't seen before. It was really fun. And, you know, the somewhat true story of a bear that ate a bunch of cocaine and went on a rampage. And then the trailer ended and the woman directly behind me went, Cocaine Bear. Was that that? Was that you?

I kind of expected. It wasn't me. It felt like she somehow had a realisation about it. And I thought she was going to leave, but she didn't. Well, the trailer was on. So, you know, there's no fear of that coming back. I just want to be clear. There was about six people in that cinema.

That's bizarre. There was nobody there. And you were there and I was there and my partner Tim was there and that was half of the cinema. That's half the cinema, yeah. Did you go by yourself or with people? Yes. No, just by myself.

Okay, so there were two other people. Which one of you left immediately? I left immediately. And that's why that's why. I Googled. How do I leave? Look at the cabin. How do I leave immediately?

How do I leave the cinema? Where's the door? Where's the door? I googled, is there a post-credits sequence? And obviously there wasn't, so I just left. Yeah, Tim did that. My partner. He goes on the internet, so I don't have to.

Nice, cool. What a legend. Yeah. I have a boyfriend. Don't be jealous. It's cool. He's in your shows. He is.

He is. Good on him. Good on him, I agree. Anyways, again, thank you so much for making the trip out and seeing this movie and coming here and being delightful and talking about all this and sharing all the things that you've been doing. It's super exciting and cool. Thank you. That's very lovely

of you. Again, michellebrazier.com slash tour if you're doing any of that. But again, everything else that you're doing. I'll be screaming about it. It's a good show. Follow on Twitter. Oh yeah. Twitter, Instagram, all of those particular things. Again, thank you're doing. I'll be screaming about it. It's a good show. Koala Man. Look at the Auntie Donna show coming out at some point. Oh, yeah. Twitter, Instagram, all of those particular things. Again, thank you so much.

Thank you. Thanks, Michelle. Bye. Oh, thank you, guys. Bye. See you at the movies. See you at the movies. No, you probably won't.

No, I probably won't. Well, yeah, no. Well, I'll sit behind you at the movies and not recognize you. Cocaine bear. I've got to go. Thanks. Wow, Mason. Is it the latest segment? Yes. Yes. You've got to go. Folks, wow, Mason. Is it the letters segment?

Yes. You're right to say wow on account of the letters. Yeah. And if you're not impressed by these letters, it's not my fault. It's the people who wrote the letters. Okay, yeah. Yeah, but I think you're going to be wowed by these letters. I think that's going to be warranted.

Well, let's find out. Anyway, here's the letters theme. The classic one was. Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Man, if you want to reach the show and send us a great letter... Man, oh man.

Yeah, that's going to impress me specifically. Boy, howdy. You can go to Twitter and hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Oh, yeah. And if it's still working, I might see it. Or you can weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com to send a Gmail. That's exactly right. Just like somebody has that you've got right there.

Oh, this is from Bruce. Hello, Bruce. Bruce says, thank you for my PhD. And I say, welcome. You're welcome. Yeah. I don't just say welcome. Welcome.

Welcome to the letter segment. So I didn't misspeak. That is correct what I said. And also, you say welcome. You're welcome. I don't just say welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the letter segment. So I didn't misspeak. That is correct what I said and also you're welcome. You're welcome. Hello there boys. Hello. Just writing to say thank you for keeping up to date with all the comic book news which is no longer shooting up my butthole because I recently got accepted into a PhD program

where I get to write my thesis about comic book film. A thesis? You both have been extremely helpful in keeping my passion going and as an insight into popular opinion surrounding these films. That's right, we're the popular opinion. Popular opinion. That's right. The layman.

Yeah, the dunce. Dunce, two dunces. The standard impression of something. I would say even more of a dunce than the standard dunce. Okay. So much to the point where, with your permission, of course, I'd like to quote you in my thesis. Don't worry, it'll be the intelligent things you say,

not bits like when you debate whether Wolverine has a metal dick. We don't think he does. Yeah. How would that work? I don't know. It just wouldn't. Yeah. Like a ball with a bit of metal in it?

Yeah, that'd be weird. No, I don't like it. Be clanging around when he's jogging. Clanging around. Clanging around. Against his metal balls. Yeah, exactly. His balls are metal. Yeah. It, I don't like it. Be clanging around when he's jogging. Be clanging around. Clanging around. Against his metal balls. Yeah, exactly. His balls are metal.

Yeah. It'd sound like a wind chime. That's right. Yeah. Also, can I be the resident doctor of the pod? Absolutely. Unless that has already been given to a deserving medical professional. No.

In which case, I'll take the resident, not real doctor, but still a doctor of the pod. Still a doctor. Thank you for the answer, Bruce. You are a Dr. Bruce. Yeah, Dr. Bruce. Not yet. No. That's great.

Good for you, man. And if you want to cite us, but make sure the person doesn't then listen to us. They'll ruin the illusion. Yeah. Absolutely. Very cool, though. Maybe when you cite us, misspell the name of the podcast. So when they search for it, it doesn't come up and they're like,

oh, it must be a podcast that doesn't exist anymore that got cancelled for too much rudeness. Exactly. Yes. I've got a tweet here from Chaz. Now, we mentioned that we're always watching a MrBeast video. Oh, yeah. We like his tightly edited stories.

We like the way he gives somebody a car or something. Remember we saw that one a while back and it was just like four things in rapid sequence. It was just like we don't have enough time to cover all. It was just like we're going to crush a car and then we're going to shoot a meteor through a roof of a house and then we're going to do this. And it was just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Yep.

Wild. 30-second video. Yeah. This is from Chaz who says, hashtag weekly punner pod. As a number one MrBeast fans, what are your thoughts on his blindness video? Oh, yeah. Now, we watched this. So if you haven't seen it, which you have because it's the biggest video

in the world at the moment, it's Mr. Beast. It's a thumbnail where he's got his hand on the shoulder of a, I guess, blind boy who's recently been able to see. Well, a stock photo of a boy. Stock photo, I should say. He's not in the video. In a medical situation, yeah. And the video basically is about how he's using his wealth and influence

to give 1,000 people a very basic cataract surgery, which normally costs around $5,000, but it's like 15 minutes surgery and it instantly works if it, if it takes, and then you can just live your life as normal. But of course, obviously the medical system being what it is in certain parts of the world, who's to say what,

that the, the controversy I guess is that is for one, is this like, is this like charity porn? Like, yeah, you guess, is that, for one, is this like charity porn? Yeah, right, right, right. And look, I don't think it is for reasons that I'll get into, but I think the most fucked up thing about this video, I mean, the thumbnail is weird.

Is it a mask that exists at all? That's what it is. Yeah, yeah. I don't think, like I get the criticisms of like, well, why doesn't he use his wealth to do whatever? Why doesn't everybody use their wealth for everything? I think that can be applied to literally anybody. And he doesn't have to do this. And I think he gets, he's able to do whatever why doesn't everybody use their wealth for everything i think that can be applied to literally anybody and he doesn't have to do this and i think he gets he's able to do things like this because you can crush it how many farts can you put in this

jar yeah most farts gets ten thousand dollars he could do that he could do it and measure with a fartometer yeah and i spent i spent 10 million dollars developing a genuine medical instrument called the fartometer i took research away from a real thing to do this but you're right though so on the one hand if you're one of those 1 000 people yeah you can see now yeah that's pretty great and i understand like people might be like is it you know is it exploitative um well i guess in a sense it is but you know people would would agree to do it but it's also they would obviously agree to do it because they can't see so you i mean if i couldn't see it i couldn't pay for it and someone was like i'll do it for free

but you have to be in a youtube video i'd be like yes obviously yeah right yeah i'll cry but also that's because you're blind and yeah that's right i mean it's i think the idea of it that it exists that's fucked up that's the dystopian part of it yes that the fact that you can't just go to a doctor and say i can't see and they're like we'll do this procedure and see you later bye and he's also talked about how i think in like tweets or like that actually like even as like a pro-capitalist like standpoint the fact that if you're getting people back into the workplace then they can they can pay taxes they can you know all of these things they can they can start a business or be part of a business or whatever,

which then adds to, you know, the overall wealth of an individual and also the government, et cetera, and a corporation. So from that perspective, it even makes sense. It's fucked up though. Yeah, sure is. And I think that like what this does is highlights that it's fucked up. Yes, it really does, doesn't it? Yeah, and I know people have also said,

why doesn't he go further to say, like, this is specifically why we're doing it, why does this exist or whatever? And it's not, like, explicitly said in the video as much. He's more said it on Twitter since. Yeah, like, I guess you could say that, totally. Just be like, isn't our healthcare system fucked? And isn't it fucked that I have to do this?

Yes, it is. Anyway, do you have any other thoughts on that? Mr. Beast, no. Yes, though, in this case. Just squeezed in under the line. Yeah, and also, like I said about Logan Paul or any influencers, even if they are a genuine psychopath, and maybe he is, I don't know him at all, it doesn't matter if they're doing good things.

It's fine. It's your actions that define you, like Batman, not if you're a complete psycho, which, again, I don't know. That's a great point. Yeah, look, it is a complicated issue. It is. And you know what? I don't think it is.

I think it's just fucked up that it exists, that it has to exist. Yeah. I agree. Anyway, what else have you got? Here's an email from Tim. Yep. I almost died in a fire while listening to the podcast, pick included.

Well, that's your fault. Right? Yeah, Mason. Oh, yeah, no, it is, yeah. Hey, James and Mason, I'm a big fan of this podcast and have been listening for years. You all got me through a lot of tough times. I'm thankful to know that you both will help me

through this hard time as well. Wow. Give me money. No, it isn't. A few days ago, I was doing some work in my apartment while listening to the pod, and I started to smell smoke. It turns out an electrical fire started in the apartment next door to me

and eventually spread to my place and destroyed almost everything I own as well as most of the building. Thankfully, no one was hurt, and I have renter's insurance, so I'll be able to get back on my feet. Holy crap. It's been a rough few days, and I'm glad that I can always count on you guys to make me laugh. Anyway, here's a building on fire.

Jeepers creepers. That's a stock photo. They've got the watermark on it. That's right. He's just asking for money. Anyway, here's a building on fire. Jeepers Creepers. That's a stock photo. They've got the watermark on it. That's right. He's just asking for money. No, that's terrible. I'm glad you're okay, though. I mean, obviously the most important thing in this scenario

is that you're not dead in a fire. That's true. So that's really good. Yeah. My goodness. Terrifying. Wait a second. This says Mr. Beast set 1,000 homes on fire.

So he could – and he paid for your renter's insurance. He's going to buy you a whole new wardrobe of Mr. Beast merchandise. Nice. He's going to get a Mr. Beast sweatshirt. I love that and I love this, Mason. Well, I'm glad he's doing okay and did we contribute to that in any way? Was that our fault? I think if he'd been listening to any other podcast,

he would have been so engrossed in the podcast that perhaps he would have been hurt in the fire. But because our podcast is such a surface level – He can just listen to it whatever. He can listen to it whatever. Or not at all. Yeah. So you're welcome. Yeah.

You can just put your headphones in, put our podcast on pause, and do the dishes. That's right. Also just empty if. Yeah. Okay, yeah. And you just silence and do the dishes. And that's why he would have realized that the fire was happening.

That's beautiful. Oh, great. That's beautiful. It's from Wesley on Twitter. Not the Wesonator is the Twitter handle. Oh, not Wesley Crusher? No, Wesley Walker. Okay.

It says, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Would you ever consider being in Creator Clash? It's the YouTube boxing event for charity that Joe Rogan thought was the father-son match. Yeah, I did see that. You could challenge Mr. Beast's friend, the one that you want to kick in the head. Well, I couldn't kick him in the head if it was a boxing match. You can only kick him if it was a kickboxing match.

Yes. Now, a lot of people don't know. Or just a kicking match. Everybody's does boxing. Everybody has kickboxing. Nobody just does just kicking. Just straight kicking. Just kicking.

They write soccer, but it's kicking. It's like soccer's just hands. Yeah. It's just headbutts and kicks. Nice. But it's a fight. Yes. First of all, I'm not famous enough to be on this, obviously.

Also. And I am, but I refuse. Yes. On principle. I'm old. A lot of people don't know that about me because I'm so youthful. Yeah. But like I'm relatively fit, but I've never boxed properly.

And I would get killed by somebody in this. Either somebody who's my age who's better because they've been training for longer or a young person would just fucking stomp me. Sure. But no, I would be interested, I guess, if it ever got floated to me, I guess I'd consider it. Well, it'd be a chance to get fit, I guess. Yeah, well, that's right.

Yeah. And I think of a lot of people in reality shows where they have to be in the SAS or whatever it is. A lot of it is like, well, you know. Can I do this? Can I still do this? Can I train up? Can I get super fit? And then people take those lessons with them throughout the –

Yeah. But I'll beat up, I don't know. Anyone. You'll beat up anyone. I've seen you do it. You'll beat up anyone who comes to your door, really. Yep. I've seen you do it.

I'm starting to think of a professional YouTuber. I couldn't think of one. But I'd beat them up or try at the very least. I think the difference between this and like a lot of the other YouTube boxing stuff is like this isn't a scam, it seems. Right. A lot of the other ones are just like- For now.

For now. They don't pay people and they turn up and they get hurt and then nobody gets paid. Yeah, right, right. Which has happened like multiple times with this shit. I guess that is also a thing. You could get a significant injury. You could pull a hammy. Well, exactly.

Like being hit in the head. Or get your skull bashed in. Yeah, exactly. And a bit of skull goes from the front of your head to out the back of your head and it takes your brain with it. Exactly. And your brain dribbles out. Being hit in the head is no fucking joke, man.

No fun at all. Yeah, absolutely. So I don't know. Probably not. I guess in answer to that. Terrific. For multiple reasons, including I'm not famous enough. Mason, do you have another whatever?

Yes. Great. And also I wouldn't do it because, one, not famous enough, and, two, I'd have to give up like burgers and stuff. You don't have to give up burgers. You could bulk for it. Oh, I could be just a really big boy. A really big boy, Mason.

A big boy with a big setter of gravity. Yeah. It could knock me down. I'd just wait them out. They'd exhaust themselves. I'd be like, I'm a big boy. I'm full of burgers. You could knock me down. I just wait them out. They'd exhaust themselves. That's it for the episode. I'm a big boy. I'm full of burgers.

You've got to stop me. You're going to hit me and it'll hurt and I'll cry, but I won't fall down. That's right. You'll fall down. I'm big. I'm a big boy. This is from Joshua.

Go on. Good day, gentlemen. Hello. And you'll know why he said good day, gentlemen, in a moment. Because he's British? I'm a concert band conductor and a music teacher in Ontario, Canada. Oh, he's not British. And I was wondering your take on film scores.

So that's why, because he's posh. Oh, he's a posh man. With the word out from Spielberg that he is planning a John Williams documentary, you think there is a future for a potential biopic. Definitely. What are some of the substantial film score composers or which movie scores stand out for you? Oh, damn, this is hard.

This is a name-a-song question. This is a huge blind spot. The Batman score. I feel like since I've really stepped into thinking about it, my feeling has always been scores a lot of the time don't stand out to me unless they're really bad or weirdly discord okay, yeah. Weirdly discordant. But since I've been starting to think about it, I think Michael Giacchino's very good.

Very good. Just bloody, just very, very good. And like that, you know, there's that constant theme throughout, you know. Something in the way, et cetera. Yeah, it feels very, very, very, you know, good. Atmospheric? Very atmospheric and very like a good through line to it all of it. Do you think it adds to the tone of the movie?

Yes. Yeah. And that's what a score's for because otherwise it's just quiet. It's just people going, and that's not a movie. It's Batman. They've re-dubbed it. Is that Batman? Yeah.

No, that is, yeah. That is actually Batman, yeah. They also read whenever they release a trade paperback for a comic book, there's a little note at the start of each one that is, yeah. That is actually Batman, yeah. They're also, whenever they release a trade paperback for comic book, there's a little note at the start of each one that says, just remember, if you can, you have to pronounce it like it's a surname. Yeah, exactly. Never to feed me, Aquaman. I'll try, though.

Yeah. I'm going to try. Also, everyone's really tired. That's what I'm here for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did a big swim to get here. I think I'll swim. Look, I'm not really up for it, but I'll give it my best.

But again, I've said the Tron Legacy score is- Yeah, we talked about it. It's a little delight. I think a documentary for John Williams works better than a biopic because he's not like- There's not a moment where he gets addicted to drugs and then- That we know about. Then his wife has to drag him out of it, which is every biopic.

I would love to see a Danny Elfman biopic because that guy's lived a life. That's true. He was in Oingo Boingo. Yeah, also, you're right. Maybe there's some stuff in John Williams' life that I don't know about. I don't think he just lived a life. I forgot bin night, and now my bin's full. It's always me every day.

Oh, Mrs. John Williams is going to be ropeable. But, yeah, I guess it's naive of me also. John Williams, you have the bins full. Shut up. Shut up, woman. Wow. Yeah, he's rude. Wow.

Wow. Yeah, I don't like it. I'm going to put this passion into my music. But it's pretty naive. Din-din, din-din, din-din, din-din, din-din, din-din. Midnight, midnight, midnight. It's naive. You forgot midnight.

You forgot midnight. Shut up. But it's naive of me to be like, oh, I guess he lived a normal life and he just wrote amazing scores. Because maybe he didn't. Maybe some incredible Starfall personal tragedies before him that I don't know about. Or maybe there's enough of a springboard

to just spin some elaborate lies. Yep. Like the Weird Al Yankovic movie. Have you watched that? Not yet, no. Fantastic stuff, Mason. Now I just got a couple here. This is from Trav and Justin. It's in relation to vetoes, Mason. Trav says for the veto rules, Mr. Sunday movie clearly overstepped by trying to veto all baby jokes.

The veto should be for specific RIF e.g. Blade Runner babies, but also it's unsportsmanlike for Wikipedia Brown to immediately do a related riff. A related riff? Yeah. Well, Justin says also James absolutely can veto all franchise baby jokes. Whoa. That gambit was way too clever to not allow.

So I don't know. It's clever. Interesting. I mean, I think it's out in the universe at the moment. We'll just see what happens. So I don't know. It's clever. Interesting. I mean, I think it's out in the universe at the moment. We'll just see what happens. We'll see what happens for the next one, won't we? We sure will. Yeah.

And also, you don't know what that is, maybe, if you're listening to this. But at the end of the show, if you're at the end, you probably know what we're talking about. Oh, here's another email from Joey. Joey? Hey, James and Mayso. Joey Fatone.

Love the pod. With the new Greenland show coming up, are there any particular characters you would like to see? I think the fact we're getting Jon Stewart and Hal Jordan is awesome. I agree James and Mayso. Joey Fatone. Love the pod. With the new Green Lantern show coming up, are there any particular characters you would like to see? I think the fact we're getting Jon Stewart and Hal Jordan is awesome. I agree with that. Yep. And knowing James Gunn, I think it's safe to say we'd be getting the squirrel chip in at least a cameo appearance.

Honestly, I'm looking forward to it. Big Planet. Oh, yeah. Orcs the fucking. Whose name I forgot. Orcs? Or is that a Marvel guy? Well, I mean, you know, Gunn has already done Ego.

Yeah, well, that's – That also makes me think he won't do the squirrel because he did – But he said here, I'm looking forward to perhaps getting an appearance by Atrocitus and his cat Dexter. So Atrocitus is one of the red lanterns. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. So that's – I mean, speaking of, and it's not even occurred to me,

I would love to see some other coloured lanterns. I think that would be cool. Do you think Sinestro will be the police chief? I reckon he's already gone bad by this time. Not really because it was in the other Green Lantern movie, but just like. Just like whatever. Just establish it.

The universe is along a little bit. Yeah, exactly. I'm excited for Gnaut. Yeah. He's the big, I don't know what he is. He's not a squirrel. He's some sort of dog man. But he's in

I've Been Ready Human Target, the Tom King, Greg Smallwood run, which has one issue left, I think. And Gnaught is in it. That's really good? Yeah, it's good. It's good fun. Gnaught. It's pronounced Nought, though. Well, I'm going to say Gnaught. Well, I disagreeught though is it well I'm gonna say Gnaught

well I disagree wow that's it for me you got anything else no that's everything let's wrap up the show okay folks thank you so much

for listening we definitely 100% do appreciate it too many big episodes at the moment Mason these are too long let's do a fucking

33 minute episode next week ridiculous alright terrific the people demand it shorter episodes the people

yeah that's all they want go on though you can just veto everything You can blow all your vetoes in one burst and get a 33 minute episode I'll say podcasting Oh no! James no! Mr James

No! Go on We definitely appreciate it I was Mr Sunday before he was Mr Beast That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying, Mason. And yet Mr. Beast has caught on because Mr. Beast implies like action and dynamism.

And Sunday's like a done day. Yeah, yeah. You have to go to work the next day. Maybe I'll have brunch or something to put the bins out. Oh, no, I've forgotten. Can't really have a big night because I've got to work the next day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough.

You could have been Mr. Can't Have a Big Night. I should have been Mr. Having a Big Night. Yes. At an appropriate night. Folks, thank you for sharing this podcast with your friends. Thank you for liking and subscribing. Thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice. James, you with me there?

You can do it in app. It is great. It's Justin who says, five stars from Aggieland. Look it up, boys. I won't. You fucking look it up. Yeah. Howdy, howdy. The podcast is great. Justin, who says, five stars from Aggieland. Look it up, boys. I won't. You fucking look it up. Yeah. Howdy, howdy.

The podcast is excellent. Ton of fun to listen to. It always makes me feel like I can have two additional nerdy friends to talk to. God bless and keep up the good work. How do you spell Aggieland? A-G-G-I-E and then land. Also, can I be the official Texas Aggie of the podcast? Again, look it up.

Fine, we will. Mason's doing it now. Thank you so much. And this second one here is from TwitterHatesHappyEndingsABC, who says, YouTube brought me here and I'm glad. I've been watching Mr. Sunday movies for a while now. I was stoked to see a video on the T2 ride experience because I forced my wife to go see it on our honeymoon

while I had vague memories of it being good from seeing it as a child previously. And I've always heard the plug for the podcast at the end of the episodes and thought, well, that's a podcast. It's different from the videos and has a different energy, I'm sure. Nah, you two have the same great energy and chemistry that you distill in each YouTube video, even in its long form medium. Subscribed, love the podcast. Edit, wow, I already wrote a review. Ah, well, was going to write one. Well, here I am in 2022, still thinking that this is a five-star podcast.

P.S. What's up with my username? Great question. Twitter hates happy endings, ABC. Aggieland is a neighborhood in Needville, Texas. Yeah, so is you. And Aggie is a student at Texas A&M. What do you think about that?

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Search for The Weekly Planet, Thank You to the Brute, and The Basilisk, and Arachnoprolo Musical Theme. Okay, that's interesting. And that's the whole show next week, a different thing. Different thing, can't wait. Same great podcast. Same great good fun time. Maybe everything that James Gunn and Peter Safran got announced got cancelled.

Yeah. By next week. And we just walk it all back. We walk it all back. Step by step. We say we wouldn't have liked it anyway and we're glad that it all got cast. We're glad. We're glad.

Yeah. Bring back the Snyderverse, we say. That's what we say to each other. That's right. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening and we'll see you next week. I doubt you. I'm going to jam you guys.

We'll see you next week. Goodbye. You know what I was thinking? What were you thinking? People probably don't know this. It's a little bonus for people. Yeah. We're talking about The Flash.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Soon-ish. Yeah. And that suit from the 90s, so good. It's pretty good, isn't it? It's a little bonus for people. We're talking about The Flash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Soon-ish. Yeah. And that suit from the 90s, so good. It's pretty good, isn't it? It's one of the best. It's really weird how good it is. Yeah.

And they justify it in the show. They're like, this is- It's a sex suit. It's a rubber sex suit because we know you like that. You're a weirdo. Yeah, that's true. He does. I couldn't get over the complexion of John Wesley Shipp,

how good his skin is. Oh, my God. Everybody's so tanned and smooth. What happened after the 90s? Why do we all look like garbage now? Did cocaine give him a little boost and then it all fell off? I don't know. Burn Brighton and like, I don't know.

Anyway, talk about it. We're doing Shrek at the moment. Yeah, we're doing Shrek at the moment. We're doing Shrek fever. Yes. Bye. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors Yes. Bye. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.