The Weekly Planet - 466 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania

Episode Date: February 19, 2023

It's time to enter the Quantum Realm but not in real life because we going to review Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania! But before that we've got news on another Hellboy reboot, How To Train Your Dragon moves into live action, trailers for John Wick Chapter 4 and Tetris, I Am Legend 2 plus MCU delays, posters and something else. Thanks for listening!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.00:00 The Start02:33 Hellboy Reboot09:29 How To Train Your Dragon Live Action11:44 The Little Mermaid Teaser15:45 John Wick: Chapter Four Trailer19:19 Tetris Movie Trailer21:58 First Look at Lady Gaga's Harley Quinn in Joker: Folie à Deux24:38 Grant Gustin Replacing Ezra Miller in DCU - Rumour28:05 I Am Legend Sequel32:02 Marvel Corner: Less TV Series, The Marvels Delay, Harrison Ford MCU President37:44 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Review - (spoilers 01:02:13 to 01:24:31 - all timecodes may shift due to inserted ad spots - maybe skip extra when avoiding spoilers - ad-free feeds like bigsandwich.co are unaffected)01:24:31 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:29:58 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Great to be here. Thank you. If you could talk like that, that'd be great because my ears are blocked. So like that actually helps me. Oh, you think that frequency will... Yeah, everybody else will hate it, but I need it. So that's right that's good mostly this is just for us i think that is true many segments of this show are just for us the theme is just for us at this point yeah uh most of the running gags are just jokes they're just for us for us yeah exactly etc do we even like them anymore it's impossible to say one day we'll sit down we'll have a critical re-evaluation we should we should get a series of episodes and we should listen back. Okay.

We should maybe listen back to a best of and be like, what is this? Yeah, that's got to go. This is all got to go. We're going to go back to first principles. What is entertainment and do we produce it? No. Hmm. Underneath question mark, what's next?

Yeah. Don't know. I'll tell you what's next this week though, Mason. Oh, yes. We're going to be talking about Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. My goodness. That's a big movie of the time. Did you know if you actually get the word quantumania

and you chop out the middle bit, it spells Ant-Man? Ant-Man. Ant-Man. That's great. Right? Have you been doing that at home? Yes, and most of the time while I was in the cinema. Great, really good. Yeah, yeah. Got my copy of TV Hits magazine. I'm chopping out little bits. Right? Have you been doing that at home? Yes. And most of the time while I was in the cinema. Great.

Really good. Yeah, yeah. Got my copy of TV Hits Magazine. I'm chopping out little bits. That's fun stuff. Making a scrapbook, yeah. Well, Collings who edits this, of course, he puts in time codes. So if you just want to jump to that, that's absolutely fine.

But there's other news leading up, including a comic book character is getting a reboot. A second reboot is going to be happening with that. It's Hellboy we're talking about. Oh, yeah, it is too. Some second reboot is going to be happening with that. It's Hellboy. We'll talk about it. Oh, yeah, it is too. Some live action DreamWorks stuff in the works. We'll talk about The Little Mermaid.

He's got to look at it this week. I mean, I saw the lighting was not good. No. No. As will surprise no one. Yeah. Somehow this thing has been made on digital with a lot of CG and you can't see it.

Can't see a damn thing. Then we're going to do trailers ahoy for both John Wick and Tetris, I think, maybe. That's right. Our first look at Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn. News on the Flash being replaced. That's a big rumour, that one. I Am Legend 2, what's going on there?

What is going on there? I'll tell you. I'll tell you in the new segment and then the Ant-Man thing. But again, there's time codes if you're doing a jump to anything. Do you want to kick things off? This is via Disgusting Film, Mason. Disgusting Film? Disgusting Film.

Well, these are kind of disgusting films in a way. That's their evaluation at the end of this. They're like, new casting rumours for this movie. Disgusting. We hate it. Gross. As far as we're concerned. Yuck.

The very medium itself. Disgusting. We hate it. Gross. Yuck. The very medium itself. Disgusting. Gramophone records. That's where it's at. That's what we think. Why do they even have this website then? I don't know. Just a hate on film, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brian Taylor will be directing another Hellboy reboot. Now, if you recognise that name, Mason. I recognise the name Hellboy, but not

the name Brian Taylor. Sure. Well, he co-directed Crank, and then Crank High Voltage and Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. So my ears are fucked. Like I can't hear myself properly. It's just bad news all around. No, I think this is going to –

I've been a bit crook. I'm on the mend now. I think this is going to result in some incredible – some riffing, I think. No, you're just going to be going, why did you say that? What's wrong with you? Isn't that what riffing is? Yes. What's that?

What are you saying? It's straight criticism, yes. You pay $1,000 for an improv course and step one is like, just repeatedly ask what a person is saying. Get more and more mad. We like Crank. Yeah. I think I've seen Crank 2.

I can't remember. Maybe I haven't. We've done a commentary for Crank 1. We did first Crank, yeah. And Claire, my wife, walked in at the... A really opportune moment, yeah. Yeah, that's right. For everybody in the movie Crank, at least.

But I feel also like she could have popped in at any moment in the movie Crank and been like, what is this? I think that moment in particular, though. Yeah, but no, absolutely. And I haven't seen Ghost Rider 2, but you have. I have. And it's pretty eclectic. I don't think so.

I don't think that's the right word at all. What would you say the right word is? I would say it's effervescent. Okay, like the band. Yeah, the band Effervescent. Effervescence? Like. Yeah, the band Effervescent. Effervescence? Like the band Schweppervescence, James. Is that an Australian thing only, Schweppervescence?

No, I think Schwepps exists in other places. That's great. I'm glad it does. They make a great creamy soda. Mason, he also worked on the TV series Happy. Oh, yeah, with Pat Nelswalt and Chris Maloney. Yeah, okay, great. Which was a lot of fun.

Yeah, I think I read that Mike Mignola has written a draft of the script. Yes. So what's happening is the working title for this is Hellboy the Crooked Man and creator Mike Mignola and author Christopher Golden are going to be writing it. And it's in the new film. Billy Mignola. Is that anything?

Yep, that's everything. And the new film will say, no, I'm doing riffs. Explain that. I don't understand it. Like a steak. I don't like it. I still don't understand it. This is riffing, Mason.

This is. So the new film will say. He doesn't know, but he's a rifted character, a guy who's mad at stuff. Very good. A fresh new character. A character he's never been before, a guy who's mad at stuff. The new film will see Hellboy

and a rookie BPRD agent stranded in 1950s rural America. And there they will discover a small community haunted by witches led by a local devil with a troubling connection to Hellboy's past, the Crooked Man. So if it's set in the 50s,

that would make Hellboy like a teenager? Hell little boy. Hell teen. Or the very, like, depending on when he comes through in the war, it could be maybe early 20s, but young Hellboy. So not quite a Hellman yet. So Tom Holland. Tom Holland.

Perfect. Really good. I love that. Maybe even younger than Tom Holland. One of the euphoria kids maybe. Younger than 26-year-old Tom Holland. That's correct. Even younger if you can imagine such a thing,

if you can imagine such a fetus-like being. I cannot. Now we just had this, obviously, recently. There was another reboot with David Harbour, which I – look, it kind of falls apart at the end and clearly there was some studio stuff going on. It's not great, but there's some stuff in there where you go, no, I, yeah, okay.

I rewatched it recently. I think it still holds up to the extent some people think it probably doesn't hold up at all. I recently watched an Architectural Digest video. With David Harbour? With David Harbour and Lily Allen. And in his, like, his wardrobe, he has, like, a photo of himself as Hellboy to remind him that it could all go away at any moment

or like stay humble because this could be it. Now, I want to be like, David Harbour, I thought that movie was pretty good and I'm the only one sure. No, but I've been perusing some various sites and the consensus is that... Excuse me? That's right, Hellboy related. Oh, okay. But that the movie itself, but excuse me, that's right. Hellboy related. Okay.

But that the movie itself. Yeah. It's not great, but some people don't mind the interpretation because it's a little grubbier than the, than the previous versions, which I also like a lot. Uh, but he's good. People like him. And I agree with that. I think he's a great Hellboy, but you know, let's go again.

Why not? I like Hellboy. And at first I saw this and I'm like, this is probably going to bomb. And it probably will. Absolutely. But I like. Because the last one bombed. Yeah.

And this is going to do worse. Because why would it do better? Why on earth would it do better? I mean, if it's in a small town, presumably you're not going to have big golden cogs and crazy creatures all the time. You could probably do it for like 30, 40 million. You'd think. Yeah. Just get some local townsfolk involved. Yeah could probably do it for like 30, 40 million, you'd think. Yeah, just get some local townsfolk involved. Yeah.

Just film it on location. It's fine. Find some local weirdo characters, get them involved. That's right, yeah. Can't wait. Or should they maybe just do an animated one? Well, they have. Yeah, that's true.

And maybe. Or a series. Well, that game is coming out soon. That's true. Which looks exciting. Do you think they're sort of attempting to put them out in sync or it's just like our way? Yeah, maybe.

I mean, this is at least two years away, so maybe not. But I don't know. Okay, so serious thought to casting. Who do we know that's young and ugly? Yuggly. Yeah, Yuggly. Who's Yuggly? Young.

Oh, my God. This is great. Well, David Harbour's not ugly. No, I know. Ron Perlman's not ugly either. James, Oh, my God. This is great. Well, David Harbour's not ugly. No, I know. Ron Perlman's not ugly either. James, I was riffing. Daniel Radcliffe. Have you Googled young and ugly actors and that's who it's come up with?

That's the number one result. Yeah, there's a Clint. He's not even that young anymore. No, he's not. Clint Howard. Clint Howard's like a million years old. Oh, Clint Howard is hell boy. He's not that ugly either.

God, I don't know. I mean, Clint Howard is Hellboy. He's not that ugly either. God, I don't know. I mean, all these people they're showing me are not ugly. They're showing Adam Driver. Come on, what are we doing? He would be a good Hellboy though. Yeah? Yeah.

Great. Yeah, there's a picture of River Phoenix. What is this? What is Google results anymore? All right, okay. What are we doing here? We purchased the rights to River Phoenix's image. We tell everybody that he's young and ugly and then we get

AI to build a fake version of him as Hellboy. This cannot lose. Yeah, I agree. I don't know. Someone big-ish and then you go for it. Unless he's Hellboy as opposed to Hellman. Let's go. Let's do it.

Now, Mason, Disney have had a lot of success with their live action movies, despite most of them not being very good. Interesting, isn't it? They mostly hit a billion dollars. Not all. Or they make them direct to streaming and everyone goes, yuck, Pinocchio. I didn't watch it. You might have watched Pinocchio.

I did, and I didn't like it. It was bad. I was tricked into doing it by someone. I can't recall who. It wasn't a trick. I genuinely was going to watch it and then I watched five minutes of it and then went nah, I'm just not. I'm not going to do it. No, look, that's fair.

I'm going to watch the Netflix one because apparently that one's amazing, right? Okay. Oh, so that's your penance is to watch a good one. Great. That's terrific stuff. Well, I'm not watching the Paulie Shaw one, am I? No, no. Anyways, so they're going to make a live action How to Train Your Dragon.

It's going to be out in March of 2025. Have you watched those as part of Dad Duties? I don't think I've watched the third one, but I've watched the other two. And they're good. They're great even, I would say. So Dean DeBlois will write and direct, and he actually directed all of the original trilogy of these. It makes sense, though, that they would do this.

The Dreamworks have a lot of now established properties, including Shrek. Sure, sure, sure. So you could even live-action Shrek if you wanted to. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Who's young and ugly? River Phoenix.

It could be Shrek. We could purchase the rights to River Phoenix's life. We could. Art likeness, yes. And then we sell it to DreamWorks. That's interesting. I like it. Okay, here's, look, I don't know nothing about how to train your dragon,

but what sounds appealing to me is I know for a fact there are human characters in this. Yes. So we can get some living actors in this. That is true. And it's not a Lion King where they're all, human characters in this. Yes. So we can get some living actors in this. That is true. And it's not a Lion King where they're all, you know. Lions. Lions. They're lions.

Various animals. I was looking for the correct word there, and you've nailed that. They are lions. Yeah. Just with these weird impassive faces. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know.

Yeah. Speaking of weird impassive faces. Go on. Anyway, sure. Why not? I would probably rather another one. I mean, I should watch the third one. And there's a whole bunch of Netflix series and whatever.

They're good. If you haven't seen Kung Fu Panda live action. No, they're animals. But, you know. Sure. It's interesting. It's interesting to think about, isn't it? It is interesting to think about.

So Disney released another look at The Little Mermaid this week. And I don't know, man, what the fuck are you doing over there? What is that? What was that? All I saw was on Twitter somebody was like, here's a clip of Melissa McCarthy as Ursula and I'm like I couldn't, what are we looking at? I think maybe the voice was, because I didn't watch

it with sound. I heard the voice, yeah. But I'm like, ooh it's a bit dark when's there going to be a reveal? Oh the clip's over. Okay, what happened? Should'm like, ooh, it's a bit dark. When's there going to be a reveal? Oh, the clip's over. Yeah. Okay, what happens? Should I play it again? No. And also there was a picture of one of, there's a sort of a yellow fish.

Yeah, that's a concept. That was flounder. That wasn't real. That was somebody went, what if flounder looked like this? And everyone just screamed at that person. Just a grotty fish. Didn't look good. Didn't look good. Didn't look good.

I mean, it looked good in terms of like, you know, you've created this thing and it looks, you know, it's a realistic blend of like what if a fish was slightly a cartoon. But no, I hated looking at that. But that's what I like in my movies. That's right. Just looking at something and go, I fucking hate that. But it's, I mean, look, I don't care about The Little Mermaid at all.

And I never have have i didn't watch it till i was like 21 or whatever when i lived with my housemates and they were like let's watch little mermaid i'm like let's watch it for your 21st birthday this is our gift to you and i didn't like it uh but i get that people do but i mean how is there Avatar and then there's this? Right. I mean, I know Avatar also took like 13 years to make and whatnot. Sure, sure, sure. But just to not brighten it up? And I get like they're probably like it's the ocean depths, et cetera. But still.

It's fascinating. Isn't it fascinating that there's so many movies where every critique of these movies, everything Marvel and Disney produced for the last five to ten years. We saw it in Game of Thrones, like it's too dark and they're just like, no, it's not. It is though. It is though.

It is. It is though, I reckon. No, it's your TV or cinema that you went to. Oh, is it? Blame the projectionist. Yell at him. Yell at the teenage boy in the littleist. Yell at him. Yell at the teenage boy in the little window. Yell at him.

Get up in his face. Threaten him on the way out. Fuck, man. I don't know. When you leave and there's a guy standing near the bin and he's like, thanks for putting your popcorn box in the bin. Yell at him. Say the movie was too dark.

You know what they're setting this up for? Let's say it bombs. And look, it probably won't because it's a little mermaid. I mean, who knows? But if it does, then it will be like, won't because it's a little mermaid i mean who knows but if it does then it will be like well because it was too woke or whatever but i would argue that like i'm not going to see this because i don't want to look at any of this i don't want to go to a movie and just like what the fuck is happening all right you know and maybe it is too woke you know but i'll never know because i can't see it that's right one day you get your

prescription change in your glasses and you're in the cinema you're like my god it is too woke or i'll be defending this movie maybe they try maybe the next step is like you know how like sometimes with a with a computer program or something like that they they take they start taking features out and then they charge you for it. Maybe in the future they're just going to start selling us glasses you can use to see when it's too dark. Glasses you can use to see? When it's too dark.

Or a torch you can shine on the screen. We're going to sell branded torches. That'll work, won't it? They're subscription-based. I love it. I'm a big fan. And if there's not enough people in the cinema to shine on, they're really narrow beams.

If there's not enough people to cast it on, you can't see anything. Yeah. So everybody has to band together and buy tickets to these movies. Also, before you write in, we know it wouldn't work because you can't shine light on a projection and it highlights the projection. That's not how it works. Just in case anybody was going to write it.

They'll still do it. Like 3D, they'll do it for a couple of years until people cotton on. Yeah, you might be right. Did you see Ant-Man in 3D? No, I saw it in regular day. He went to a screening though, didn't you? Yeah, it was just regular. Regular days.

Regular days. Speaking of trailers, Mason, John Wick 4. Bill Skarsgård is in it. That's right. Clancy Brown is in it. Hiroyuki Sanada is in it. Great cast. I mean, John Wick.

Yes. That is true. Somebody called Scott Adkins is in it. That's right. He's a big man. Is he a big man in real life? He's not. He's a regular man, I think, as far as I know.

I think he. The name gives off. He was Batman. Like thin man vibes. Oh, yeah, yeah the name gives off he was Batman like thin man vibes oh yeah yeah you know what I mean like lean man vibes a Scott Adkins

yeah that's like Adkins diet he's like a guy with a good metabolism yeah Scott Adkins that's true you're absolutely right

so does that mean he's going to be have they done this so he's a big man who can do like athletic like big big martial arts

do you think he's a big man with a big martial art I think there'll be some of that. I think he'll be able to, he'll be a big strong man. Because I don't think we've ever seen John Wick fight like a really big strong man. Someone who can like just pick up a John Wick and like throw him down the floor.

All that's happened in these movies. Just swing a big dumbbell. Yeah. A big metal bar with two big metal balls on the end. Oh, that's big. He's got a big mustache, a huge handlebar mustache. I mean, he doesn't. I'm looking at a picture of him. No, I'm thinking this is the mythical strong man I've invented. Oh, that's big. He's got a big mustache, a huge handlebar mustache. I mean, he doesn't. I'm looking at a picture of him.

No, I'm thinking this is the mythical strongman I've invented. Oh, okay. So we're talking. That's cool too, I guess. But to get back on track. Okay, sure, sure, sure. So the first John Wick was an hour 36, which quite frankly is the perfect length for any movie.

I would give it one more minute, a 97-minute movie. Sure, let's go there. It gives me lean vibes. It's a real Scott Adkins of a movie. Oh would give it one more minute, a 97-minute movie. Sure, let's go there. It gives me lean vibes. It's a real Scott Adkins of a movie. Oh, I get you, but not when he's in the suit, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Second John Wick, two hours and two minutes. Sure, I get it.

You're expanding in the sequel. That's right. You may be adding a car chase and maybe a bit with a sword. I don't know. You're thinking of sort of emo-type characters with a lot of tattoos and black hair that swoops to the left. Where are they going to be? Are they going to be on the switchboard?

Are they going to be in a nightclub? Are they going to be in a laundromat? Yeah, these are all good questions. Laundromat's got a secret door. Leads into a nightclub. You've got to develop that economy. Yeah. How are people paying for stuff?

Gold coins. Where they get them. Taxi drivers maybe. That's right. I don't know. Or the homeless? I don't know. Sure. I don't know. Or the homeless? Maybe. Sure.

I don't know. Third movie. Third movie, 2 hours 11. Well, you've got- Stressing out. But you've got Halle Berry in there. What a delight. She's got a dog. Everybody's got dogs.

You walk through the desert- Dog food. Dog food. You walk through the desert, you cut your thumb off for a guy. Whatever. Whatever that movie. You want a really labored man cutting his finger off scene. That's what you want.

It's perfect length. How long is this one? Is it a lean Scott Adkins? Yeah. Well, it's a Scott Adkins but more of the fourth one because it's two hours and 49 minutes. It's too long. That's way too fucking long, right?

It's too long. I mean, I feel like this premise has been stretched as is. And looking at the trailer, and, yeah, it looks spectacular and it's doing all the stuff that a John Wick does. He's got a firework gun now. He's got a gun that shoots fireworks. And that's cool. I like that.

But I just don't know whether this can be sustained. I hope it can. But I'm also, I'm not in this movie for like compelling storylines. Yes. It's for like let's see some cool stuff happening. And I just don't know whether it can sustain it. I hope it does. I hope it does. I hope it does.

But we'll see. That just seems really long. Maybe it's like an hour of his concierge being like, Mr Wick, how about this gun? He's like, nah. How about a bigger gun? Nah. That's too big actually.

What about too small? Too big. Nah. Too small? Well, here's the medium. What do you mean that's too medium sized? Mr Wick, please.. Nah. Too small. Well, here's the medium. What do you mean that's too medium-sized? Mr. Wick, please. Time is of the essence.

There's no such thing as too medium of a gun. We also got a trailer for Tetris. Yeah. Now, you were like, how is this going to be very interesting or whatever? Well, it's a big week. It's been a big couple of weeks for movies about people coming up with stuff. Last week we had Air. Oh, yeah, that's true.

There's this. There's Pinball. It is funny when they're like, this important thing is happening. And it's like, it's Tetris. Calm down. And with the shoe, it's like, yeah, you picked the right guy for the shoe. Sure. And that's great, but that could have easily not happened.

That's right. It's not. It's just lucky, you know. You just happen to pick the best basketball player in the world. Like Australia picked Andrew Gaze. Andrew Gaze. Yes, that's right. Two great Australian legends.

For a second I'm like, Kieran Perkins? That would have been the wrong man to pick for basketball shoes. He's an Olympic gold medalist. Yeah, it's true. So, you know, cut him some slack. Second time he did it, he did it from lane eight. Very unusual. You don't often do that.

Third time, bronze. Still good, but he was older than that. And that's okay. Just leave him alone, Mason. Okay, sure. Just ease up on Kieran Perkins, all right? I'm just saying he wouldn't be wearing shoes in the pool. He probably wouldn't. If he was, he wouldn't be wearing shoes in the pool. He probably wouldn't.

Yeah. If he was, he shouldn't because he'd be faster without. But, look, if you are interested in this. Kieran, you'd be faster without. This is Kieran Perkins. Yeah. The Kieran Perkins story. I got you.

Okay. Gaming historian, the gaming historian, who's a great channel, has a really interesting video on it that you should check out. It's like a mini documentary. Also our friends at Do Go On did an episode quite recently with the Little Dum Dum Club about Tetris. Did they know this was coming out?

No, I think it was a coincidence. That's amazing. Good stuff all around. And I do like the scene where they unveil the Game Boy. As I said to you before the show, it's like they're unveiling like a, I don't know, like a nuclear weapon or something important. And the Game Boy show was revolutionary and whatever, but like it's just funny being like the Game Boy.

Sure. And it's like, okay, settle down. Why is it that sort of greeny-yellowy color? That's the best we could do. Yeah. I don't know. I can't really. Yeah, there's no room for a backlight

hopefully someone will invent one hopefully somebody will invent a big thing you clamp over the top and it's got a magnifier and a backlight in it yeah we'll make a movie about it yeah the magnifier and backlight guy uh we also got our first next year the game gear tv tuner the movie i wanted that so badly. Just the idea of having a portable TV. Right. I know I have one and I hate it. Yeah.

I hate it, Mason. Yeah, sure. Ruins my day. First look at Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn. It's a very close embrace. That's right. Between her and the Joker. The Joker looks in distress.

Maybe he's like, I don't know if I can be the Joker. And she's like, you can. You can do it. I reckon. I'll help you. You think we're at I can be the Joker. And she's like, you can. You can do it, I reckon. I'll help you. You think we're at that point in the movie where that scene is happening? Yes. Because I think earlier in the movie she'd be like, I don't think you should be the Joker. Yeah, this is bad. And I won't help you with it, actually.

You asked me to, but I'm saying no. That's right. I'm putting my foot down. That's right. You shouldn't do it. And then she does a big wink to the camera. Yeah. Because we all know she will. We all know she's going to do it. He looks a bit older. I wonder if it's like 10 years on or whatever, you know? It's like Joker in the late 80s, early 90s or whatever. He's probably wearing some of those Air Jordans. He would be, wouldn't he?

Probably playing Tetris on the Game Boy. Popular shoe and gaming device, Mason. He's probably cheering on Kieran Perkins. Well, not yet. Or maybe he's watching him in school swim meets. Take your shoes off, Kieran. That's his one request in Arkham Asylum. Just a satellite feed from local win community TV.

That's too specific. You can't say win Community TV, Mason. I can and I have. I won't take it back. You're going to be saying Prime Possible. I'm just going to have to stop you, all right? Okay, fine. People don't get it.

Oh, well. And they shouldn't. They shouldn't. It's true. So, yeah, that's well underway. Expect a trailer, I'd imagine, by probably mid-year. Yeah, we'll see. What are we thinking for a Harley Quinn costume?

What do you think she's going to do? Because she's not going to do... I don't know, a nursing costume maybe? Yeah, because she's not going to do, like, the cat suit. Maybe. With a big Jester's hat. The coat, you know, like psychiatrist coat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Red smear. Yeah, maybe blood smeared lab coat The coat, you know, like psychiatrist coat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Red underneath. Red smeared, yeah, maybe blood smeared lab coat. Yeah. Maybe, you know what, I'm going to guess maybe, yeah, like white dress, white lab coat, and it gets a blood smear and it looks sort of like the Harlequin check or whatever. And she winks at the camera. She winks at the camera. For those who know, she'll say.

That's right. And it's a musical as well. So, you know, that's how that goes. Do you think that – I wonder if they get cold feet and they abandon that. Do we know for sure it's still a musical? I think like Joaquin Phoenix is probably doing – like driving a lot of it. And so I'd imagine that would be like a key component of him coming on board and all of that, you know.

I don't think they – you know, it happens, but I think he's probably got more creative control than you think. Than you? Yeah. Now, this is by John Campier on YouTube, but also this rumor was doing the rounds, but he kind of added to it, and it's on Grant Gustin being the movie version of The Flash. I see.

And basically he said that a little bird told him, and this person has also been telling a few other people, so you might see it pop up, that Grant Gustin, who plays The Flash in the television series, is going to be the new Flash of the DC Universe. Now, he also said that he heard this, but he doesn't necessarily believe it. There's just a rumor doing the rounds. I think it's sure anything is possible.

But do you also think that maybe James Gunn would want to like clean slate this whole I think he does want to clean slate. And also I wonder if Grant Gustin's like, I've done it for basically 10 years. I don't need to do it again. I mean, you'd do the movie though, wouldn't you? I guess you probably would. You'd be a bigger paycheck, less work. You're not doing 22 episodes or whatever.

You don't have to work with that garbage cast you're not doing 22 episodes or whatever, you know. Don't have to work with that garbage cast you've been working with. That's true. That garbage TV cast. The gutters of TV, yuck. How much? I was thinking about this earlier. Later losers. Go on.

How much of that show is him running on a treadmill in front of the green screen? Like how much does he have to do that? Yeah, right. That's a great question. I reckon not a ton. I reckon maybe a lot of that is. Like looped or. Loop, but I think a lot of it also is just he's,

there'll be a lot of him like a lightning bolt zips in and then he's just stationary in the scene. I think there's probably a lot of standing on your mark. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, you're probably right. There's probably more towards the end of a season when it's like barry you've got to run as fast as you can you've got to run faster than anyone's ever run

fast but i can't run any faster well you got to try though because this guy see the other guy yeah yeah sam look you know he's a bit like you but he's a different color to you from the future maybe i don't know or another dimension i don't know something like or both okay he's a different colour to you. Is he from the future? Maybe, I don't know. Or another dimension, I don't know. Something like, or both. Okay. Maybe he's both. Is it me, maybe? It might be. Yeah. We haven't done that yet. Yeah, it might be. Anyway, he's really fast, and he's going to run at a thing. Okay.

That's bad, if he runs at the thing. Should I run at it first, maybe? Yeah. Yeah, alright. Yeah, give that a go, actually. Yeah. We haven't done that. Yeah. Alright. You should run at it and grab it or whatever or run around it. I reckon you should probably run around it really fast and it'll glow or stop glowing. And then it'll float up and whatever. Yeah, probably there'll be a zap or something.

I don't know. Yeah. Try that. I don't know. Everything will probably tumble into a portal. It's probably going to be all right. But then it'll disappear and it'll be like, well, that's the end of that. Probably.

I don't know. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he'll, the other guy will probably, I don't know. He'll be in the vortex. Yeah.

He'll be lightning. He'll happen. And he'll be like, um, um, um, maybe I'll be back. Yeah. You know, in a smaller role next season. And he might be. Yeah. He might be.

Might be. You know? I don't know. We brought a guy back be. Yeah, he might be. Might be. You know? I don't know. We brought a guy back recently. Anyway, you've got to run though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I'm saying is probably when they do those scenes towards the end of the season, I imagine he does a lot more running on the spot.

Does a big running in a circle. Yeah, because they need to lock on his face. Yeah, that makes sense. He's a really intense runner. He might run up next to somebody. Sure, yeah, yeah. I get you. All right, cool. He's really intense. It might run up next to somebody. Sure, yeah, yeah. I get you. All right, cool.

Great stuff, Mason. Now, I mean, James Gunn, at this time of recording this, he hasn't debunked this. No. That says nothing. But it's not nothing. That's true. That is very true.

Which I guess makes it something. That is very true. This last bit of news. No, it's not. There's more news than that. Whoa. What am I doing? Oh, I forgot to mention there's like a bunch of Marvel news

that I didn't mention up top, but there is. I Am Legend 2 is moving forward with both William Smith and Michael B. Jordan. Oh, my goodness. It's going to be writer Akiva Goldsman, and this is what Akiva said. I'm obsessed with The Last of Us. Where we see the world just post-apocalyptic.

I knew that's where it was going to go. Did you? Yeah, I was like, yeah, it's probably. They would have seen this and then been like, oh, wait, don't we have something like this? Yeah, exactly. Didn't we do this? Didn't we do something like this?

Hey, what's happening outside? Is it Last of Us fever? Yeah, it is. All right. Okay, cool. Do we have anything to do with mushrooms? Do we have any mushroom-based properties? No, we don't?

No. Okay, well, I guess we're stuck. Oh, we have all the zombie-based properties. Okay, let's do that. Technically, they're sun vampires. Hey, shut up. No one cares or remembers that. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. The mistake we made last time was saying that. We just said they were zombies. Anyway, you're fired. I'm obsessed with The Last of Us where we see the world just post-apocalypse but also 20 to 30-year lapse. That will be especially visual in New York. This is about the sequel.

New York, baby. I don't know if we'll climb up the Empire State Building, but the possibilities are endless. That is. What buildings can they climb? They can climb any of the buildings, I think. I mean, the sky's the limit. They say if you can climb the Empire State Building.

Mason, the top of the building is the limit, not the sky. They say if you can climb the Empire State Building in New York, you can climb any of the buildings in New York, baby. Yeah, that's probably... Yeah, maybe. So maybe some of the newer skyscrapers are probably a bit slipperier. Oh, you mean you're talking about the outside? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. Did you think I meant the inside?

I thought you meant just walk up the stairs or get the elevator to the top, which is what I would do. We trace back to the original Matheson book and the alternate ending as opposed to the released ending in the original film. So the original ending for The Iron Legend is dumb. If you haven't seen it, Will Smith takes a grenade and he runs into a pack of Draculas. A pack of Dracs.

A big pack of Dracs. But in the... And he says, suck on this, you pack of Dracs. A big pack of Dracs. But in the... He says, suck on this, you pack of Dracs. Ping! But in the alternate cut, he realizes that he's kidnapped the lead pack of Dracs girlfriend, and he releases them.

That's right. And the Dracs go like, that's cool, we're cool with you. I never thought a pack of Dracs could feel love, but they can. In a way, I'm the real Dracula. Yeah, that's cool, we're cool with you. I never thought a pack of Drax could feel love, but they can. In a way, I'm the real Dracula. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Well, if you haven't read the book, that's kind of the point of the book. Yeah, yeah.

The end is like, I was a Dracula. I was a Dracula. Damn. It's one of the worst things you can be. That sucks. I didn't even realise that. Oh, yes, please. I didn't realise.

And he says, I didn't even realise that was a pun, but it's staying in. It's staying in my journal. I'm loving this. So, yeah. I meant to say that. I think it makes sense to put the alternate ending because then you can put Will Smith in it.

That's true. And. Michael B. Jordan. I mean, they've been talking about this sequel for something else happening for like. Yon for like over a decade now. So, yonks. Yes, Mason. Yeah, yonks.

For yonks. So, why not? And I think there's a lot of good stuff in that movie as well. Does Michael B. Jordan get a play? I don't know. Isn't there a little kid in the first one? Can't remember. Could be him or a different person.

I was like, does he have kids? He does. They get smashed by a helicopter. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's a funny movie. Son, you're still alive and you might be jordan now i thought you were smashed by a helicopter yeah i got better yeah i got better yeah because of um dracula dna maybe some of the dracula dna got on me i think

when i was smashed by that i don't know if they're those kind of draculas something to think about this is all dialogue from the script are they those kind of dr elk. I don't know if they're those kind of Draculas. Something to think about. This is all dialogue from the script. Are they those kind of Draculas? I don't know. Well, I'm here, aren't I? Yeah, so, I mean, don't look a gift, formerly dead son in the mouth, dad. Dad. Yeah.

Let's do some delays but not to smaze Mason. Let's do it. To lead into that, to soften the blow, there was a new poster for the Marvels where it says, higher, further, faster, together. Ooh. So that extra word on the end on like the first Captain Marvel movie because we've got the three Captain Marvels coming together. I like the poster, by the way.

Looks fun. It's not just three faces. It's three friends. It's three friends, but it's not three big faces and 18 other people around it. Right, exactly. And all the bad guys pointing their guns one way and somebody else. And the love interest being like, eh. Eh.

You know? Help me. Eh. That's right. But they moved it from July 28th to November 10th of this year. Oh. Which speaks to something I'm going to talk about in a minute. But in some other, like, do you know Kevin Feige's just caught

on the red carpet and they just ask him a bunch of stuff? Hey, Kevin, don't run. We'll get you if you run. He doesn't run. He's not a runner. No. Yeah. But he said Thaddeus Ross is going to be president,

so General Ross, which is the Harrison Ford character. And he insists that everybody call him Thad in the office. Harrison Ford's already played the president. He was president on Get Off the Damn Plane. Do you think they'll reference that? Yeah, yes, they will at some point. I hope so. Also, cameras roll on Blade in about ten weeks.

Does it have a director or a script yet? Yeah, they replaced the director. We talked about this. I can't remember who, but yes. And as for the script, probably at least some of it. Some of the script. That's perfect and spider-man 4 is happening the the cast open up the script and it's just like

we're just there's just a page it just says we're just going to react to some stuff for a couple of days yeah we don't know what it is yet but act scared act angry yeah yeah you know so you can't get in here do whatever it is hey don't come in don't get in here. Do whatever it is. Hey, don't come in. Don't come in here. You get away from me, you pack of dracks. We'll do the dracks later. We'll draw the dracks later. Not the dracks you're thinking of.

No, no, no, no, no. No, we're going to kill him. Yeah, he's going to die maybe. He doesn't want to be in the movies anymore. So we're going to kill him. Yeah, different dracks. Dracula's plural. And Spider-Man 4 is officially moving forward.

And Kevin Feige said we have a story, we've got big ideas for that. Now writers are now putting pen to paper. We're thinking maybe Peter Parker could learn with great power comes great responsibility. That would be good. What lessons has he learned? Don't trust adults. Something about dimensions.

Yeah, don't. Don't do any of that. Don't crack open a bunch of alternate dimensions. Rule number one. Don't go to Europe. Don't go to Europe. Don't be respectful of that. Don't crack open a bunch of alternate dimensions. Rule number one. Don't go to Europe. Don't go to Europe. Don't be respectful of your prom date's dad because he's probably a supervillain. Also be disrespectful.

Be disrespectful. You're openly disrespectful to display dominance. Yeah. Get it. Go on. Get driven to the prom or whatever. And then your date gets out of the car. Yeah.

And before the dad gives you a lecture. Just be like, I can lift 30 tons. Can you imagine how hard I could punch you right in the head, old man? Yeah. He doesn't even have his vulture costume at that point. That is the perfect opportunity to hit him. All right. I could kick the back of this seat so hard you would go through the engine block of this car, old man.

Just to be clear. And nobody would think it was made. That's right. They'd think it was merely a function of this Tesla that we're in right now. They'd be like, well, whatever. What else is new? That happens, doesn't it? So anyway, he does a big quote, Kevin Feige,

about like the powerful aspects of Marvel Studios and the films and getting them in the zeitgeist and maybe to hit the zeitgeist even harder, they need to pull back on some of the properties. And so out of all this quote, basically what he was saying for phases five and six, that there's going to be fewer shows and have everything more paced out. That includes the movies because they're shuffling some stuff around. I think we're only getting maybe two Marvel shows this year,

which is good. I'm happy for them to slow down a bit and just not have that Marvel discourse every week and every frame goes up on Twitter and people go, this looks like shit. And it's like, yeah, probably. We know. You're not wrong. Look, honestly, you're not wrong.

But if you wouldn't mind, do you think, though, ultimately this will result in better results? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it should. It could. You'd hope so. Yeah. It was too much.

Like, I mean, I wonder if the, you know, and a lot of people, when we talk about Marvel stuff, you know, they go, okay, well, the color grading is gray and things look a bit flat and not hugely exciting. I wonder if that, you know, you could break it down to the fact that the train just has to keep going and they've not had a minute to go, okay, let's re-evaluate this. Like, you know, we had 10 projects in the pipe and we had to get them

out on schedule so we did this. And maybe now if it's only a couple of things a year they could go, all right, let's, you know. Yeah, let's focus on just that. Let's focus on just that. I don't disagree, Mason. James, before we get started, we took a small break there, an imperceptible break just a second ago.

And in between you came up with two delightful puns, I thought. Should I say them? I think you should just apropos of nothing with no context. I don't think people will like that or be interested, Mason, but we'll see how it goes. Okay. Yeah. But you've got to make sure when I do them, if I do them,

you remind people that I came up with them spontaneously. Okay, true. And they were really good. And one of them is too specific. Okay. But anyway, let's kick on. Oh, you're going to maybe drop them in later. Drop them in later.

Okay. One of them was Joker face. Pretty good. No, Mason, them was Joker face. Pretty good. No, Mason, it wasn't. It's good. I think it was good. Anyway, it's a lady guy. Someone's done that.

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That's SunriseChallenge.ca Anyways, Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. My goodness. It's a big budget film. Apparently the budget is somewhere between $130 to $200 million. Who knows? And as a result of that, Go on. Well, maybe not as a result of that Go on Well maybe not as a result

But at the box office It's going to make in the US On a three day opening weekend $109 million Approximately Maybe a bit above that Which is not as good an opening As Wakanda Forever

Which had a great opening weekend At like $180 million But it's well above The previous Ant-Man movies Oh my god Which doesn't surprise me You know That being said Like critically At like $180 million, but it's well above the previous Ant-Man movies. Oh, my goodness. Which doesn't surprise me. That being said, critically, it's very mixed. It's currently 1% ahead of The Eternals at 48% on Rotten Tomatoes.

But also the audience score and also a lot of the feedback that I've seen from people is a lot of people also seem to enjoy what's going on here. I'm enjoying what's going on here. What do you think the story was, though? Oh, okay. Hang on. Okay, so Ant-Man. Scott Lang. He's having a great time.

He's living life and he's living large. Yeah, as he should, by the way. He's walking down the streets. Yeah, he's Ant-Man. Ant-Man. It's funny because, like, there is a joke of, like, oh, here he is. He's talking about how he saved the world again or whatever.

That's a big deal. Yeah. You don't have to do anything after that. If you travel through time and stop like a universe extinction event, you just get to do nothing. I mean, if he's really being honest with himself, it is the rat that saved the universe. I mean, sure.

Yeah. But then you could, any random thing you could say saved the universe. In a way, Thanos saved the universe because he kicked off the whole destroying the universe thing. Exactly, yeah. If we're going to get, you know. And if he wasn't there, you know, then they couldn't have saved it. So they'd be looking pretty stupid, wouldn't they? I completely agree.

Oh, just standing around waiting for somebody to try and end the universe. Oh, you'd stop that if it were happening, would you? Well, it isn't happening. Yeah. So shut up. Egg on your face. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway, Scott Lang, he's? Well, it isn't happening. Yeah. So shut up. Egg on your face. Anyway. Anyway.

Anyway, Scott Lang, he's living life, he's living life. He's walking down the street. He's got a little book. He's written a book about BMP. Which you can get apparently. Yeah, so it's on its way, I think. I wonder who's writing that. I mean, Scott Lang, obviously.

Yeah, yeah. And he's, you know, but then his daughter, he's like, what are you up to? I mean, you've been recast, obviously. You look different. Yeah, but she's you up to? I mean, you've been recast, obviously. You look different. Yeah, but she's like, well, I mean, you know, I've been spending time working on my appearance and also I built this plot device.

Yep. I'm building this plot device that's going to drive this whole movie. Should I switch it on? And Scott Lang's like, why not? Yeah, why not? But then Michelle Phyfe is like, nah, don't. Don't. Come on.

Oh, it's too late. It's too late. We've been sucked into the quantum realm. Yep. Bad news. Yeah. Who's in's too late. It's too late. We've been sucked into the quantum realm. Yep. Bad news. Yeah. Who's in there? Kang.

Yeah. Kang and others. Other stuff. Other stuff and Kang and whatever. Various clouds. Yeah, clouds and goos. Oh, a lot of goos. Guns and flying stingrays.

Goos and gunk and flying stuff and big space and rings and goopy men and big buildings that walk around. MODOK. MODOK's in there also, yeah, yeah, yeah. All of that is in there. Yeah, it's all there. So, you know, after this movie finished, my reaction was this was it. I'm excited for this.

It's just like, all right, and that was it. Yeah, it's interesting. It's just like, okay. I mean, you know, and I think maybe the, you know, each time a new Marvel movie comes out, with probably the exception of Wakanda Forever, but for the last few, every time one comes out, there has been a slew of articles that are like,

this is the end of cinema. This is a real step down. What, do you think it's real this time? Is that what you're saying? No, I don't think that. I thought, you know, I came away from this, I real step down. Do you think it's real this time? Is that what you're saying? No, I don't think that. I thought, you know, I came away from this, I had two thoughts. One is I thought this was like,

it felt like just maybe an issue of a comic book. Yeah. And you watch, you read it and you go, this was pretty good, pretty wild away at the time, didn't it? But at the same time, every criticism I've heard of this movie, I'm like, that is quite valid. Yeah. I would say I probably liked it less than that even then

because there's some stuff in it that I quite liked, but there are other parts that I'm like, I don't. I think the biggest part for this, and I guess we'll talk more about this in spoilers as well, like often these things lead to a bigger thing. Ooh. Right, and that can often be like. Sometimes there's post-credit sequences that leave you hyped.

And you go, whoa, whatever, you know? But I feel like even though I know this is part of a bigger story, I didn't come out of this being like, oh, damn, this is really like heating up. It was literally like, all right. Well, it's led to me. It gave me a lot of questions. I think in spoilers we're going to talk extensively about Kang

and how many Kangs there are and what does that mean in terms of plot and Kang versus the Avengers in future movies. What does it mean, you know, the sheer number of Kangs that there are? Yeah. How many are they going to face, et cetera? And I also think like how good a movie is or how good any of the movies I've enjoyed from like this universe or whatever other universe, my enjoyment isn't like dependent on the end and I go, ooh,

what's next or whatever. So, you know, I don't think it's fair to be like, well, you know, I'm not really excited, that excited for what's next or whatever. So this whole thing was like. It was all right. Sure. Yes. I feel like I didn't really love a lot of the quantum realm.

It felt like there was like a roof on it. It did, didn't it? And, you know. It starts out. Here's the thing, because it started out quite mixed. The first time we see the quantum realm in the movie, it's a flashback sequence to Michelle Pfeiffer's character's time in the quantum realm.

Yeah. And there is a moment sort of we see her like walking, we see her sort of top down walking through the quantum realm overhead. And I'm like, okay, that looks pretty expansive. But the very first shot, it does feel like it's just a, they may as well be like in a mat, like just standing in a room with a mat painting behind them. It doesn't, there are so many shots in this movie that could feel

expansive and exciting, but they just feel like they're staged so flatly. It does look like Michael Flatley. Yeah, very good. But it just looks like two people at opposite ends of a screen, of the screen talking to one another in a room and there's just a... It's either the volume or green screen. Oh, look behind. It's all of eternity.

Isn't that exciting, you know? Yeah. And no, a lot of the time. And, you know, I like the commitment to, like, weird creatures and, like, a Star Wars bar and your transports, a big stingray and whatever and the strange weapons. But I also thought it was strange where like they'll see like paul rod and they're like oh what's this guy that's what is he doing

here that's out of place and it's like fucking bill murray lives here why is this why is this guy weird he looks like every like every second person here is a man right like why is that strange you know right question and i know that like they're probably distinct from humans in many ways. But it wasn't, I don't understand why anybody would care that, like, they're there. Or would anybody, you know, you put a cloak on and then it's like you're anybody. Maybe it's a smell thing. Maybe it is a smell thing. Maybe you smell like you're not from the quantum realm.

But, you know, I like that there was a little, there's a funny little squishy man. Sure, yeah. Enjoyed that. I thought the guy from The Quiet Place, William Jackson Harper, was great. Do you mean The Good Place? What did I say? You said The Quiet Place. He's not in The Quiet Place.

That's a different movie, Mason. It's not a thing. It's a different franchise. I don't think it's anything. It's a different franchise. You're thinking of A Quiet Place. I am thinking of A Quiet Place. I wish I was in a bloody quiet place right now.

For your criticisms, Mason. The Quiet Place is like when you're in your car just after you get home yeah it's just a moment where you're like i do like that place he's great but he's like barely in it and he's like and he's like nobody yeah i know there was like rumors that he was going to be like quasar or something and maybe he could be down the line and like if you're putting him in it i think a lot of people you know doing dream casting were wanted him to be mr fantastic at some point down the line. That was an option. Because obviously he was Chidi in The Quiet Place, as you know.

My car. Your car. In the driveway, yeah. That's right, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, that's – well, it's also – what are those characters' names? I think he's Quasar. He's Quasar.

But I only know that because I saw an article – I only know because I looked it up just now. Well, I saw an article prior that was like, is he's quasar but i only know that because i saw an article just now well i saw an article prior that was like is he quasar or whatever um oh because his name was quas and people like oh it must be quasar or whatever um and you know there's like buildings are alive and and whatever i don't mind any of that you know i like a weird space bar that's uh that's all fine and dandy uh but but you know as i said it did kind of feel like it had a roof on it. And here's something that I know you don't like, so I wanted to ask you about it. Well, both of us don't really like it, like the nanotech suits.

This is like a button you put on your chest and it makes an Ant-Man suit around you. I mean, obviously, I think they probably had to work backwards. They're like, okay, why would the characters be wearing their Ant-Man? If he's tumbling into the quantum realm. Yeah, how would they end up in the Quantum Realm in their Ant-Man suits? And the answer is obviously they tap a little button and they're wearing them underneath or they're in a necklace or something

or they've sticky taped it to their chest. No, I think it's like a medallion that he like- Okay. Doesn't he? Like just slaps on him. Oh, he's carrying it. Yeah, he's carrying it. I believe, yeah.

I might be wrong. I guess so, yeah. But at least it was the- What I appreciated, it was the- I didn't mind the design though. Yeah, the design's pretty good and it's – the helmet is the kind of flip forward, flip back model as opposed to the just forms around your face nanotech style.

Okay, yeah, sure. Not very interesting kind of style. I still like the original one that like flips up and you've still got like the rest of it on, but I guess that's not very cool. You know, like the face plate. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, that's not cool. It's not cool. And you've got to be cool in the quantum realm, don't you? You've got to. You know, like the faceplate. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, that's not cool.

It's not cool. And you've got to be cool in the quantum realm, don't you? You've got to be cool in the quantum realm, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Again, I think what Marvel does great is casting. And I think, look, what sold most of this movie to me, I think, was Paul Rudd, you know, as Ant-Man.

I don't know if you're aware. He's very good. He's very good. I think I like him in other people's movies though more. Oh, I see. When he's just like there's a bunch of other better Avengers around. Oh, sure, sure, sure. You know?

Or perceived to be. We'll talk about it in spoilers, but I think for me the price of admission, which was zero for me, but in normal circumstances I would have paid for the ticket, it was worth it, but there's one joke right at the end which I thought was just perfect for me. I thought it was a wonderful joke. Okay. I'll tell you about it later.

But Paul Rudd was great, and I think Jonathan Majors as Kang. Very good. Or as a Kang. He's got a nuance to him which I really appreciate. You know, he's a complicated character. And nobody understands him but michelle pfeiffer that's right yeah um but uh i think he he really sells maybe some uh i think maybe he's not a kang is not a fully developed character necessarily but i think

i think jonathan majors sells him better he's he. He sells the material better than maybe it's worth, I think, thus far at this point. Sure. I think he's going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting down the line and a lot of different voices. Yeah, maybe. And I think that's going to be interesting to see play out. But, no, I like him, though.

I think it could spiral wildly in later stuff and maybe not necessarily in a good way. Absolutely, yeah. But that's more stuff that we'll talk about in spoilers. Yeah, I wondered the degree to which Marvel have got a handle on what they want Kang to be because his characterisation, this is a different Kang than the one we saw in Loki. Yeah.

Nathaniel Richards, he who remains. This guy saw in Loki. Yeah. Nathaniel Richards. He Who Remains. He Who Remains. This guy's, I think, also Nathaniel Richards. They would all be, I think. Yeah. So, but. Who might be a descendant of Ray Richards or Dr.

Yes, exactly. So the characterisations are different, but they have some similarities. But I have to wonder what we're going to get. We'll talk about it in spoilers. But, yeah. Cool. What else?

Here's a critique that I saw. Wow. It was the fun of Ant-Man is. Mason, your ticket was free. It was via Disney. You could at least say some more nice things. Oh, yeah. It's a good point.

I thought Catherine Newton was very good. But I thought how they recast Emma Furman, who apparently found out on social media. Brutal. Like that wasn't very cool. And also you could have kept her because I thought she was great in any game. Yeah, it's interesting. Is it just somebody had a better agent?

I guess. Also Catherine Newton apparently very good at golf. I mean, that's great. Her handicap is plus two. That's my handicap. It's not. You're golf. I mean, that's great. Her handicap is plus two. That's my handicap. It's not. You're a liar. Yeah, that's true.

But at least I just, you know, I'll go with you on something. You'll say something and I'll say something. Sure, yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. I think that is good, yeah. I'd say Michael Douglas is like cranky and fun.

You know what I like about, I don't know if it's on the behalf of the writers, I don't know if it's the director, I don't know if it's on the behalf of the writers, I don't know if it's the director, I don't know if it's where Michael Douglas wanted to go with the character. What I liked is in this one, he's just become a man who's going slightly senile, but he loves ants. That's his whole deal there. Yeah.

He's lost some of his edge, but he's like, he just wants to talk about ants. I made really smart ants. I made smart ants. Oh, which reminds me, again, we'll get it why yeah we'll get why'd you do that this movie does sort of end with a deus ex machina that isn't a deus ex machina only in the sense that it gets like maybe a couple of minutes of explanation throughout the movie where it's just they just be like that's very generous couple of minutes. Yeah.

I would say 13 seconds in total. But, yeah. But, I mean, when it happened, I wasn't like, what? Like, I knew. Sure. I knew. I thought Michelle Pfeiffer, though, really good, really great, gets a lot of play in this because she knows Kang.

Like, she'd met this version. She'd met him before that interacted. She knows the quantum realm. Met him at a barbecue. Yeah, this because she knows Kang. Like she'd met, well, this version, she'd met him before that interacted. She knows the quantum realm. Met him at a barbecue. Yeah, met him at a barbecue. Like clearly haunted by all of it. But I think in doing so, it makes like Evangeline Lilly's character

like very minor in this. Like she does some stuff like, especially towards the end. For a movie called Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. She'll be called Ant-Man and Michelle Pfeiffer, Quantumania. That's right.

And Evangeline Lilly's in it a bit. But yeah, there's not a lot of team up. No. And obviously, you know, the idea being, of course, that they're. I think they just had to because the last one was Ant-Man and the Wasp. So they had to like keep that.

Yes, exactly. But I think because they were like, okay, well, you know, we'll split them apart for narrative reasons and we'll bring them back at the end to, you know, and then that's a very satisfying finish kind of thing. Sure. I don't know, you know, you just have them team up most of the time. Anyway, I was going to say,

one of the criticisms of this movie was that the fun of Ant-Man is he's a tiny little man in a regular-sized world and look at him interacting with all the big stuff. I think I agree, but also we have had two movies of that. And it's like saying, okay, well, the best part of Iron Man is when he's in the super hyper-advanced suit and he's just mowing down legions of bad guys. And it's like, that is cool, but also the best part of Iron Man 3

was when he didn't have the suit. And he was having a panic attack. And he was having a panic attack. And he was having a panic attack, which is always fun for everybody, but like to show him out of his element. Yeah. And I thought that was, that is true. That being said, there are moments in this where, there's a moment in this where both Ant-Man and his daughter

are giant sized. Yeah. And it's like, are they though? They're just in the void. Oh, like as in you couldn't tell they are giant-sized. Yeah. And it's like, are they, though? They're just in the void? Oh, like as in you couldn't tell they were giant? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's a moment where Scott is like, oh, my God, you're so big. Yeah.

And it's like, you just look like two normal people. Yeah. It's like hiking Godzilla, but you're that size. Yeah. No, I disagree with that. It had a little heist, sort of. You've got to put a little heist in an Ant-Man movie

oh yeah to get one of the plot devices sure yeah and it was like you know weird reality stuff and whatever and I didn't

I didn't mind any of that I don't know could it have been it's like I don't want to say like this all could have been weirder because like it was pretty weird

right yeah you're right but I don't know it also sort of washes over you yeah I don't think I was like wowed by any of it in particular, you know. Okay, you know what we do have to talk about? Yes.

MODOK. Sure, okay, yeah. This has been a big talking point. So now the thing about MODOK in the comics is he's fucking hideous, right? Right, yes. He's awful and he's rude and he's mean. And I think they did all of that but in a different way. Like he is hideous.

This is in the trailers if you don't know, but we can, you know, you can skip it if you want. But it's Yellowjacket. It's Darren Cross from the first Ant-Man when he got squished into the quantum realm. He was rescued and he was made into MODOK. Yes. And he's a big stretched out CGI face and you see him naked at one point.

He's got a dangly little bottom and whatever. That's right. And he's just this weird little creep psycho kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I understand the criticism of like, God, that looks like shit. But I also think like he's hideous. Like he's supposed to be hideous and this is just a different kind of hideous right i don't know what do you think uh i'm not gonna go in like defending it like

don't get me wrong but i guess what i'm saying is i didn't hate it as much as other people would necessarily yeah i mean i and because i also i think they had to make him look like darren cross yes and if you give him the full MODOK, maybe you lose him. He could look like anybody. Yeah, I think you're right there. Yeah. I think it also helps that – who's the actor that plays Darren Cross? Great question.

Corey Stahl. Corey Stahl. It helps that he was bald in the first movie. Yeah. But, yeah, like a lot – Is MODOK bald? Hasn't he got like a tuft of hair? I guess he does have a little tuft of hair.

It doesn't matter anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I guess it helps that, I don't know, it sort of mostly worked. I don't know. Yeah. It is like it's upsetting to look at. Yes. But I think that might be like that's good because it's M.O.D.O.K. maybe.

Apparently I read that Paul Rudd wanted to do a smaller scale movie. Like that was his. Next time around. Or maybe even this time around. Because they're all kind of small scale though, right? Don't you feel though? Like one and two are pretty like. Well, I mean, yeah, but this one is, you know,

the entire universe is at stake. No, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. But I think apparently he wanted this one to be equally small and just be like. Oh, okay. But it would involve AIM and MODOK. Like they were the two elements. Yeah, okay.

I don't mind that. I don't mind the idea of that. But again, you know, maybe people would get sick of just like, oh, it's a little, you know what this missed out on? Where was Michael Peña? I have that exact note. Right? They should have brought him in to the quantum realm.

Right? Yes, exactly. Imagine that guy walking into a weird Star Wars bar and whatever. That would have all been really fun. Exactly, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, him and David Dash Melchin would have been great. There's no, like, Judy Greer or Bobby Carnival. David Dash Melchin is in this.

Is he? Yeah. When? He's the little man. What little man? The squelchy man. He's the voice of that guy? I thought that was Jonathan Groff.

No. Are you sure? Yes. Okay. I'm almost positive. Well, I mean that actor. Like, that character. Yeah, he you sure? Yes. Okay. I'm almost positive. Well, I mean that actor. Like that character. Yeah, he's the slime creature. No, no, the character he plays.

Yes, oh yeah, the weird Russian guy. Because he's a guy in the movie. You're absolutely right. I can't put T.I. in for reasons I won't get into, but yeah. Michael Peña. Yeah, and I think maybe, was Judy Greer and Bobby Cannavale in like a table scene, a family scene maybe, and I missed it potentially?

No, not at all. I know like Randall Park makes a small cameo. But even like put him in the quantum realm. He's great. Yeah. I think too many fucking ant people going in. Put in a regular person who like is maybe has something funny to say. Because quite frankly, it's just not that funny a movie either.

And the Ant-Man movies generally, they're more funny than this was. I just didn't think it was kind of that funny. You put Jimmy Woo in. Yeah. You put Jimmy Woo in and he gets carried away by some villagers or whatever and you think he's dead and then you go back later and he's the king of the village because he knows card tricks. He knows card tricks. You're like, whoa. We love you, Jimmy Woo. This guy's a wizard, they'd say. Yeah, he's dead and then you go back later and he's the king of the village because he knows card tricks. He knows card tricks.

You're like, whoa. We love you, Jimmy Woo. This guy's a wizard, they'd say. Yeah, he's a wizard. We love you, Jimmy Woo, they would say. Exactly, yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. Do you want to read from, do you want to hear from this?

I read this Vulture review today. Let's do it. It's from Bill. What's a bird doing reviewing movies anyway? Bloody didn't have nice things to say about that Spider-Man movie, The Vulture. Oh, very good. Anyway, this movie review is entitled This is a Cry for Help.

Oh, my God. What, the review or the movie? The movie. Help me. I don't want to write reviews. I'm trapped in the cinema. It keeps playing Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. It opens with Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania is an atrocious movie,

but it's atrocious in a way that Marvel movies rarely are. Oh, wow. But anyway. Why? Well, I mean, I could read the whole thing, but I'll find some highlights perhaps. Up until now, the films of the MCU have for the most part managed to strike up a decent blend of sentiment, jokey humor, and superhero derring-do.

I've never been quite so stupefied by a Marvel movie the way I was by Quantumania. Okay. Let's see. There's a plot summary. I know the plot already. Yeah, yeah, you were there, I think. It looks like the filmmakers themselves were bored putting it on screen. Looks like they were meant to be a knockoff version of George Lucas' space operas. Sure.

It doesn't have any of Lucas' earnestness or imagination or Watiti's irreverent pranks to sensibility here. Totally listless, performances failing to convey either wonderment or terror. Do you think that's a green screen volume situation? Yeah, maybe. Where, like, how are you supposed to joke and quip if you're standing across from nothing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're like, wow, what about all this? Do you think Michael Douglas actually put his hands in anything slimy? Not to do with slimy. Sure, probably not. Yeah. I mean, I did see a couple of scenes where like maybe he was. I think they should have made him put his hands in jelly. Yeah, I agree.

But not tell him it was jelly. Say, put your hands in this, mate. Yeah. And he would be like, what is this? And they'd be like, we'll never tell you. We won't tell you. Probably not jelly though. Something gross probably. Tell you at the wrap party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Is there like a paragraph at the end that says, in summary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here it is. Here we go. I hate this. You'll love this. You'll love this. Will I? Yeah, you'll love it. The problem isn't that such bits, jokey bits, aren't funny. They sometimes are, but they reveal a noxious carelessness beneath the slipshod filmmaking. Jesus. This is not human design to enhance what you're seeing or even to cleverly undercut it.

There's a lifeless bitterness to it all, like a dumb nothing matters joke you might make while working a tedious, demeaning job you can't wait to leave. Is that us? Yeah, maybe. I'm sure it'll make lots of money, but Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania might be the first time I've ever found myself genuinely sorry for the people who make one of these movies.

It feels like a cry for help. See, here's the thing. I feel like every once in a while people decide that they're all. This is the one. This is the one that I'm going to take a shot at. And I feel like also it's sometimes a case of one person will sort of break the dam in terms of doing a mean review and then other people will like it. I think if this came out in like 2016, 2017,

completely different response as well. I mean, there's obviously stuff that you couldn't do in it because of like, you know, Kang and whatever, the current villains. But I think, yeah, I think there is a point where you're like, there's a lot of this shit. Sure. And maybe this is the breaking point.

Because I certainly do not think it is the worst MCU movie. I think this was this guy's breaking point. He mentions earlier that he's watched them all multiple times with his kids, and I'm like, yeah, I think this is probably cracked. I liked it more than Love and Thunder. Me too. Yeah. So, you know.

Me too, but for me personally, that's a very low bar. Should we do Best Movie Ever, Worst Movie Ever? Yes. We'll do our famous rating and then we'll do some spoilers. Okay, I'm going to say Best Movie Ever. I certainly didn't hate it. Yeah, I guess I'll have to because I didn't hate it, but again, I was like.

I think there was enough of this. I think there was enough of a plot that I didn't go, oh, this is just a preview for the next thing. Like I know obviously it's going to. Yeah, I mean it is, but sure. But, yeah, you weren't like this is an overwhelming amount of like, okay. Nothing, this is an overwhelming. Can we just watch the next thing already? Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anyway. Did you felt it retread a lot of stuff like multiverse related? Yes. So we in spoilers now? Sure, let's do it. Okay. That's the thing. So I wonder if this felt like a soft reboot of Kang,

the previous Kang. Yeah. And I wonder if it's because the production, Kevin Feige, et cetera, thought, well, perhaps people didn't watch Loki. Kang's an important villain for this next phase. Yeah. Perhaps people didn't watch Loki or they did watch Loki but they can't really remember what his deal was. They probably even looked at the numbers of how many people watched Loki.

Yeah, and they made a calculation. So for people who don't remember Loki, so the first time we meet a Kang, the one who remains, he was a scientist in the 31st century and he discovered the existence of the multiverse. Or did he? Or what? No, he did.

He did. Thank you. He really destroyed my confidence there. I'm like, what do I remember from this? Oh, my God, maybe I don't remember anything. But then he meets another Kang from another dimension. And they're like, cool. This is cool.

But then it turns out that some of the Kangs are like, ooh, the alternate dimensions, that means I can conquer these alternate dimensions with my incredible technology. And the one who remains Kang is like, we won't be having any of that. Stay out of my timeline or what have you. And so does he destroy the other timelines? One who remains Kang is like, we won't be having any of that. Stay out of my timeline or what have you. True.

And so he, does he destroy the other timelines? Do you simply cut them off? No, he cut them all off. So he basically isolates everything. The main MCU. Yeah. And he creates the TVA to prevent additional strands of multiverse coming off this particular universe. But then Sylvie kills him, which prevents the barriers

from stopping the multiverse. The walls come down. The walls come down. The walls come down. And then we've got all the multiverse. The multiverse is all multiverse happening. Yeah. And there's a statue.

There's four statues in the lobby and one of them is toppled. Where is this, in Loki? This is in Loki. Oh, in loki this is in loki oh in in his sort of yeah in his house at the end of the universe exactly so in his lair b&b and we see we meet three other kings at the end which we'll talk about so i guess he's the fourth one who was exiled whose statue was toppled i'm assuming yeah we'll see i mean initially because they do look different so the one who remains is a beard yeah and all the other Kangs seem to have, like, sort of these scars down the sides of their faces,

which is supposed to be reminiscent of the mask that the comic book version character wears. And I think they're also supposed to look like tears, because he's sad about what he has to do. I don't doubt it. So the one who remains wanted to prevent sort of total multiversal destruction.

Yeah. This one also wants to prevent total multiversal destruction yes maybe so is there two rogue ones yeah and the rest just want to destroy everything or conquer everything or just be a big team yeah i'm not exactly sure because he, I think, I mean, he was enough of like a psycho that they decided to cut him off from all the other Kangs. Quantumania Kang, yes. And then as a result of that at the end. But they're evil. Yeah, but they're evil.

But he's also evil. Yes, but he's also evil. But I guess he's more evil. I thought he was less evil. No, I thought he was more evil because he wanted to go back and get revenge and then he was like, I'm going to destroy your universe. See, I thought he was less evil. Because remember he touched his ship and then he was less evil. No, I thought he was more evil because he wanted to go back and get revenge and then he was like, I'm going to destroy your universe. See, I thought he was less evil.

Because remember he touched his ship and then he was like destroying everything. Yeah, but wasn't he destroying everything to prevent more destroying? Maybe. Yeah, that's what I got. I got the impression that he is a, he's not a good guy certainly, but he's the necessary evil guy. Yeah. And the other ones are like yeah we're gonna we're

gonna enslave the universe kind of thing you know what i mean but it's interesting that they when they decide to come out see it's confusing no well it is and i know all of it will be answered will it but or will some of it be quietly dropped here's what i wonder yeah it's like when do do how do you think people are going to respond to the fact that the last guy was like a guy who had a sort of – he was sort of omniscient because he'd seen all of history. Well, he'd seen it. He'd seen it, so he knew what everybody was going to do. So he's sort of undefeatable in that way. And then we've got this guy who is – he has great powers and he – once he gets the suit on, he can shoot a laser and et cetera.

How do we feel the audience is going to feel like the next time we see another one, we're like, oh, it's another of these guys. And he's dressed like a pharaoh or whatever the fuck. Well, we see. So it's Immortus, it's Ramatut and Centurion. How did your audience feel when they saw this? I don't know. I don't remember there being any reaction.

My audience laughed. Yeah. Because he's dressed as a pharaoh. I mean, how's he going to keep track of all these voices he's doing? And then there's a stadium of them and they're all screaming. And they're all hooting and hollering. Yeah. Which is, there is a, like, that has happened in the comic books.

We see, you know, a stadium, you know, a coliseum full of Kangs and et cetera. But here's the question, I guess, is how are the Avengers going to defeat an infinite number of these guys who are all super powerful? What are they going to have to change? Well, I wonder if they're going to morph them all into one guy at one point so he'll have the combined knowledge. Maybe that would be an easy way to do it. But the next movie is called, sorry,

the Avengers movie is called Avengers Kang Dynasty, which is presumably battling all of them. And then the one after that is the Secret Wars. So it might be a situation where this guy or a version of Kang, he's some kind of beyond a situation. Yeah, right, right, right. And then he does the Secret Wars where he brings everybody from different dimensions. I'm doing the Secret Wars.

I'm doing the Secret Wars, everybody. Get ready. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You better stretch. I'm doing the Secret Wars. I'm doing the Secret Wars, everybody. Get ready. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You better stretch. I'm doing the Secret Wars. But also, this guy, like, fell into a fucking another pocket dimension. Do I have time to take a smoke break before the Secret Wars? Yeah, you can take a smoke break.

It's fine. I did the Secret Wars. What I wonder if – so it feels like, you know, when you play a video game and there's a big boss, maybe the end of the game, and then the next game that boss is around again, but he's just a regular guy. He's on the roster. He's just on the regular roster.

Mortal Kombat 2, you're talking about. I'm talking about Mortal Kombat 2 or like Doom or whatever. Yeah. And I feel like maybe – what I think maybe is the thing – the problem is in a multiverse there's an infinite number of these guys. Yes. So either you have them fight an infinite number of avengers which is going to be a nightmare yeah or you have the regular number of avengers plus some multiverse guys maybe you bring

back some spider-mans and some fast fantastic force and so forth yeah but i think what they're going to do is they're going to go see that stadium full of kang's that's all there is there's a few thousand of them yeah for reasons to do with multiversal barriers or whatever. And they're sort of cannon fodder. They can do what Kang can do in this and they've got lasers or whatever. I think you're right, yeah. And you can have a big battle in a field or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And three other Kangs, the Immortus Ramatut and Centurion Cyborg Man, they're the main guys. I think what's going to happen is we're going to get, I don't know, maybe somebody will come up with a doodad and be like, we've cut them all off from the multiverse. Whatever, yeah. No more multiverse.

No more multiverse. Do you think the version of Kang from this movie, though, is going to come back? Initially I thought. Because I'll talk about some deleted stuff, but he wasn't supposed to die initially. Oh, really? Okay.

The early leaks. Well, I wondered if perhaps. Because I think he's the most compelling villain. I know we haven't seen Pharaoh Man and whatever yet. We haven't seen any of them. But I felt the fact that he's scary enough to the rest of them that they will exile him. Right, yes. And that he has now a personal vendetta against ant-man in this particular

realm that he's stuck in that he would that's more interesting than a pharaoh and a robot and he could go like okay well i could destroy any number of universes but i just like this one yeah you know in particular yeah yeah yeah i unshrunk myself and my balls have remained quantum so yeah i mean maybe he turns into the beyonder and whatever i don't know maybe but like i thought initially perhaps he was going to end up being the he who remains. Okay, right. Like he gets shrunk down into the Quantum Engine. I mean, he might be.

The Multiversal Engine, and then he ends up there. Yeah. I think it's. I mean, I think also we can, and this is because there's another post-credits, we could meet this version again in any timeline. Yes. He's met other Avengers. He's talked about it.

So he might show up as a past or future version of himself. Which also makes things too complicated as well. Agreed, yeah. Yeah. I hope they got their bloody writing caps on to make future movies. I know I said before like it's not very. Don't you agree? Yeah, I agree.

About the writing caps? Yeah, no, you have to put it on. You have to put it on. You need a pen also. But like maybe a whiteboard with some arrows. But, you know, like when you see, you know, a pharaoh or whatever in a stadium and then Loki sees, we see Victor Timely, who's maybe this version of Kang previously.

That's a fun Easter egg, James. You know why? Timely Comics. That is true. What Marvel used to be called. Whereas. They put their writing caps onto that one, I'll tell you that much. That's a fun Easter egg, James. You know why? Timely comics. That is true. That's what Marvel used to be called. Whereas... They put their writing caps onto that one, I'll tell you that much. That's true.

Where it's not... Ooh, there's some Easter eggs in this writing cap. Ooh. Oh, they're all melted. But, you know, like, I can't... This is why I'm, like, not that excited because I don't see a clear... I didn't get a clear sense of what's happening.

Whereas, you know, but that being said, like Thanos turned around in Avengers 2012. Yes. And then you're like, oh, that's a guy that just wants to destroy everything or whatever. Like, you know who he is. Whereas this, which is also like that on its own is not super exciting. Yeah. But I think this is too much to be like, oh, wow, what's going to happen? But it's also too confusing to be like, well, I could puzzle this out.

But yeah. Also, it's literally any infinite possibilities of things going forward. Infinite possibilities leads to lack of engagement with the – And again, you know, they need to nail down the limitations of this villain and where and when he can appear because otherwise it is a case of, well, if there's infinite realities, you can defeat him infinite number of times and he'll still come back kind of thing. Also, you know, one of the criticisms I think of Endgame,

which is, you know, you might consider pretty valid, is that the Thanos that they fight in Endgame is just a guy who doesn't really know anything about them. No. He's just like, oh. He's the one whose dimension they stumbled into. Yeah, exactly. And he's like, oh, I guess I one whose dimension they stumbled into. Yeah, exactly. And he's like, oh, I guess I'll kill them all.

I don't know. I got a free afternoon. I guess I'll jump through their time portal and kill them or whatever. And, you know, he spends, you know, he literally does the memeable line where, you know, Scarlet Witch is like, you took everything from me. And he's like, I don't know. Did I? Did I?

Huh. Did I cut in front of you at the supermarket or something? For my soup ingredients? All the stuff that I was cooking? That's very good. Yeah. No, that's not incorrect, I guess. So the question being is if you keep killing this guy

and then in the last movie it's like, and Kang's back. It's like a Kang is back. Yeah. That's what I mean, which is why I think they should have probably lent into that, and maybe they still will, that this is the guy. Yes, right's what I mean, which is why I think they should have probably lent into that and maybe they still will, that this is the guy. Yes, right. This is the one.

Because he's also interesting. Yeah, no, that's true. Because depending on who you ask, he's either more of a good guy or more of a bad guy Well, either way, that's interesting. Depending on whether you think that somebody destroying a bunch of dimensions and destroying entire timelines with trillions of people in them, do you think that's bad?

See, I thought the idea – like I thought that when – the idea that Michelle Pfeiffer's character, whose name I will not recall, Janet? Janet Van Dyne. Janet, when she touches his ship, she sees what he's done and she's like, oh, you know, he's a mass murderer, etc. I thought that he was missing a lot of context. That's the misunderstanding. He should have put a post-it note on the ship that said I did it for a good reason. Did it because it was cool.

I did it because it was cool. That's also why I smoke. Yeah. So I'm smoking right now. I'm going to have a smoke before Secret Wars. That's right. Yes. Where was I going with that? It doesn't matter. Yeah.

No, I get you. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. We're in terms of like, yeah, he's a guy who's just. But also they're going to need, if he does return for the next thing. Yeah. He's going to have to say, I'm the one from. I'm the one from the previous one.

You know. Yeah. They're going to need Ant-Man to be like, that's him? Yeah. Or they'll just have Janet Van Dyne in a scene and she'll be like, I know him anyway. Yeah. He's the one from before.

Yeah. You know? But also wouldn't there be a version of him that's lived this exact existence? There'd be an infinite – Who met a Janet Van Dyne and also the Wasp kicked him into a portal or whatever. Because we need to know how many – we need to – There needs to be a lid on how many of these there are.

Because the MCU universe, supposedly it's a 616, We need to know how many. We need to. There needs to be a lid on how many of these there are. Because the MCU Universe, supposedly it's Earth 616, but it's not because the Marvel MCU Universe is Earth 1999999. So there's at least 200,000 parallel Marvel Universes maybe, I don't know, or more or less. I don't know. It depends how you number them. And you do a time travel and you add another one.

And given the thing about infinite universes is there's infinite versions of Kang that stepped left and there's infinite versions where he stepped right or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, it was cool that the wasps came back and did a thing. I think that was cool also, yeah. Yeah.

I liked the bit where he was a team of ants. I thought that was a fun little reversal of the – Yeah, that was good. But again, but also the thing where, you know, there's ten seconds in this movie of the smart ants and then a couple of seconds of Michael Douglas going, what's that in my ear? Is it a smart ant?

And then at the end it's like, hey, look, it's all the smart ants. And they've built so many weapons and mechs, look, it's all a smart ant. They've built so many weapons and mechs and whatever. They can easily defeat Kang. They really didn't explain those smart ants. So like how did he make them? Because he put little helmets on them or whatever. Yeah, how did they get smart? And they're building stuff.

What are they building? Yeah. Are they building? They were in there for 1,000 years, but they weren't in there for 1,000 years. And when they came out, it was regular time. Time dilation, yeah. Time dilation, yeah. But it's also the same. But they didn't in there for a thousand years. And when they came out, it was regular time dilation. I mean, but it's also the same, but they didn't get no time.

It's the same criticism of like, well, if, uh, if the bad guys shoot a laser at somebody and they disintegrate, why is it that when Ant-Man gets big, they can shoot a hundred lasers at him and he's fine. Cause he's big, big molecules, I guess. It's probably the big, probably the big molecules. Anyway, I just want to quickly get back to MODOK. I would have loved the idea of him being this recurring loser. Yes. An absolute psycho.

He makes it out of the corner. Gun for hire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe he's running a little company and whatever and all of that. I did like. But they just. Yeah. He just kind of does a heel turn for good.

Yeah, I did like a face turn. Thank you. Which is ironic. Yeah. But that's what they call it that's yes um i did like that uh cassie had the had you know that would that sort of history supposedly it was this you know this this man who haunted her nightmares and etc yeah she seemed mostly pretty well adjusted but uh but and then she finally got to you know conk him on the head or whatever she's she's just like, stop it. Yeah. Don't do it. Come on.

Stop being a dick kind of thing. He's just like, I'm going to bend you or whatever, you know. Yeah. The best, I think the best looking that MODOK effect was when he was just a puddle on the ground and he's coughing up goo. Yeah. I think that's when the effect looked. I think because you put the grit and the goo and the blood and all that on him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think you're right. I think maybe he should have changed his ways, made the sacrifice, and then we learn he survives and he makes it out of the quantum realm, and then he's just a weird mercenary. I love the idea that he'd just be floating around the regular Earth. I wouldn't even think, like, don't even do the change.

Just have him get out. Oh, yeah, sure. Okay, that could work too, yeah. Anyway, I guess we should quickly talk about Victor Timely. So at the end, Loki and Owen Wilson, they're in the 20s or something. And they look at the stage. They're in the 90s. You can obviously tell from the sepia tone.

You're right. And they're wearing their Air Jordans. And they look up and they're at some kind of science demonstration situation and it's one of the Kangs. And he's like, hello, I'm Victor Timely and I'm Dimensions and such. And Loki's like, oh, no, that's spooky. This is a spooky time. That's right.

And almost it's like, I don't think it is a spooky time. And Loki's like, trust me, it's definitely going to be a spooky time. Now, Loki is quite confident. Is he confident that that is literally the one who remains? Or is he confident that that's just a Kang? Or, yeah. Because I didn't get again. No, he didn't have the things and whatever.

So he didn't have the scars. Not that I saw. He might have. And, like, he could have been the one from this dimension earlier, you know, because he doesn't seem to age. So he could have – like, he stayed in there longer than Janet Van Dyne, but he didn't age and she did. So I think there's something going on with his, like –

he could be from anywhere. Yeah. Also, I think they're going to go with, like – if they want to explain the quantum realm, they can just be like, he could be from anywhere. Yeah. Also, I think they're going to go with, like, if they want to explain the quantum realm, they can just be like, oh, pockets of time. Yeah. Over here, you'd age faster. Yeah. But I think he's immortal. I think also, like, he's applied some kind of serum.

Or a cream, perhaps. Or a cream, or a time stick. Perhaps he drank an eternal youth shake, like Hugh Laurie in the movie Tomorrowland. I haven't seen that movie. Yes, you have. Except I have seen that movie. You have seen it. It's not about whether I've seen it. It's about whether I remember it.

Is season two of Loki coming out before Kang Dynasty? Yeah. Okay, well then I reckon Loki will be a lot of explaining how many Kangs there are and they're going to cross their fingers and hope everybody is going to watch it because otherwise. Well, they'll still explain it in a movie, but yeah, you're absolutely right. Here's some deleted scenes though.

Okay. This is via comicbookmovie.com via Marvel Studio Spoilers on Reddit. So Hope Van Dyne had a son. That's even on Instagram, but that was supposed to be in the scene when you saw all the infinite versions of Ant-Man. Wait, so Hope Van Dyne is Evangeline Lilly's character. Okay, right. Because, you know, you see the different Paul Rudds

and one of them is the Baskin Robbins guy. Oh, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was going to experience, like, different versions of herself. Ah, but she didn't receive any visions. Or one of her son, which had long hair. Oh. Oh, so many different haircuts. I agree.

I hope Van Dyne would have it. I agree. They're also going to show up with black and neon Ant-Man and Wasp costumes at the end, and Wasp would have, like, lightsaber kind of wings. Oh. They could cut through stuff, I guess.

At the end, Kang was going to escape the Quantum Realm and Scott and Hope were stuck there. And it felt like it could have gone that way because at the end they're standing there and then the portal opens and it cuts to what could easily be a reshoot of him being like, everything's fine, or is it? See, that's my favourite joke. That's what I was going with.

The impending sense of doom. The impending doom. I thought I was going to say Kevin Rudd. Paul Rudd. Speaking about impending doom. Paul Rudd. I like the idea that he's just walking down the street and then we get that intense moment.

He's like, I don't know if we did the right thing. Yeah. Which is how you would always be feeling in the Marvel Universe, I think. Especially when you end up in this cosmic Yeah. Which is how you would always be feeling in the Marvel universe, I think. Especially when you end up in this cosmic treadmill. Because you probably shot a ship out of the sky and it killed a family or something. Yeah, exactly. But the moment where he's like, just the two, where he was walking down the street when

they had dinner, where he's, both of the times where he's like, I don't think any of us fully understood what was happening there. I mean, I got big and I punched some stuff, but I don't know whether that's, yeah, I think that probably speaks to the thing where you were saying where he was a guy who was maybe among Kangs was a force for good. Yeah. I mean, in the, in the statistically speaking. Yeah.

I, I, yeah, I think that was. And I know there will be people in the comments, especially if this becomes a YouTube video, which it will, who will be like, well, obviously it's this. I just want to say, Hey, we don't fucking know that yet. So you might think something and you might even turn out to be right. You might even be able to back it up with some lore that's been in a movie or TV series. Well, guess what?

We didn't rewatch it even if we don't remember anything. We're old. But we represent the average viewer. We don't know anything. That's why we're so popular. That's right. Because we don't know anything and we refuse to learn. That's the general public, baby.

It certainly is. So, yeah, this will all be probably even made clear in an interview this week. Yeah, probably. Where Kevin Feige will be like, yeah, he was this and whatever. And maybe you won't see the last of him and et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at this point we don't know. There are literally infinite possibilities of who's doing anything

in those movies. I wonder if test audiences were like – Yeah, maybe. Maybe if test audiences were like we didn't like the fact that they were maybe stuck in the corner. And didn't he get stuck in the last one? He did. Yes, he did.

You're absolutely right. Yeah, that's how I thought the movie was going to go when Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lilly jumped. There'd be some kind of sacrifice, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no. Something to think about. Also, the last moments of the movie were in the trailer,

so that's pretty. That's certainly true. The last action sequence at least. So that's a bit. Got some reviews here, Mason, from people who were kind enough to send them to us. This is from Steven who says, Hashtag weekly planet pod.

Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. Might be the best Star Wars film. Love Jonathan Majors. Really love the movie, actually. Silly, fun, spectacular. Apparently Kang's weakness is just a really tall dude, though. It's true. I like the bit where he was brutal and just, like,

kicking Scott Lang in the face. That's good stuff. That's right, yeah. This is from Art T. Panda, who says, Ant-Man, green screen mania. Had some fun moments, but is genuinely terrible, and yet another step in pushing the Eternals to the middle of the MCU quality scale. Story and characters were so underdeveloped and cliche. Nice creature design though.

And username that's witty at first is says, hashtag Wicked Planet Pod. Saw Ant-Man on Thursday and I say best movie ever. Although I think it is a bit dense for someone who is not familiar with the MCU and comics. Also crazy that we got a comic-accurate Council of Kings before a second Justice League. Well, that's not true because we had Justice League 2017 and then we had four-hour Justice League. That's true.

We had four-hour Justice League. With the sides cut off. Like four-hour energy in Justice League. That's it. Anyways. We mentioned it, but Bill Murray's in that. He's channeling SNL in the sense that he's reading his lines off cue cards. Does he get eaten?

Yes. Can we even see that properly? We do, yeah. Because I feel like it happens in the background, right? Yeah, but we're pretty sure he gets eaten. Yeah, yeah. Great stuff. It is great stuff.

I did like seeing Bill Murray and Michael Douglas together. Something about that. That's true, yeah. I was like, that's a fun combo. Yeah. These two old men who probably filmed on different days. That's right, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, who probably filmed on different days. That's right, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, should we move on to the next segment of the show? Yes. But what is it? It's what we're reading. Oh, my God, what else is it? It's what we're going to read. He's got it.

He's got it again. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Lisa, what are you doing? What are we reading today? Lisa, what are you doing? I started re-watching the TV series Review with Forrest McNeill. Are you familiar with that one?

No, I'm not familiar with that. You would be. It's Andy Daly. Okay. It's fun. Oh, right. No, I've never seen this. I do know it, but I've never seen it. Yeah, yeah.

So I think we mentioned it briefly on the podcast before, but I saw a Twitter thread on like somebody was like, what's the best like single joke in a tv series or what have you yeah and i'm and a lot of people were like oh there's a there's a scene in this particular show so it's it's andy daly it's based on australian tv series called review with miles barlow which was on the abc really i know that that's a good show isn't it yeah yeah yeah but that came out but this is is better? Well, it's different. So the original was Miles Barlow, instead of reviewing movies and et cetera, he reviews experiences like doing drugs or getting divorced

or stealing something. Yes. This one, the American version, stars Andy Daly as Forrest McNeil, and he does a similar thing. But the difference is that the original series, there's no continuity really. Right, okay. But in the new version, it like it's it's like an

ongoing like everything piles up like he gets divorced and then that's he reviews the experience and that stays and then the wife takes everything and he's really depressed and etc but like as a lot of people mentioned in this thread on twitter like there's a single joke in one of the episodes where he reviews eating 15 pancakes. I'm sure it's on YouTube if people want to check it out. I might have even seen that, yeah. But it's just a funny, it's just great, and Andy Daly is just so good. So is it a bit Nathan for you?

I mean, no, because it's entirely scripted, yeah. But it's just a good, funny. All right, I'm going to check that out 100% if you're in Australia it's on Paramount Plus I just saw that and I think I have that one I'm in the process I've just started watching the Scream movies again, now I've already watched Scream 1

we've even done a movie commentary on it also we've got one on Ant-Man Ant-Man people are interested I just finished up Scream 2. Oh, yes. And I'm going to work my way through it because there will be a new Scream next month or something.

I recommend you do the same, Mason. I will. Because they're all pretty good. I should catch up because otherwise the reveal is going to be that the killer is this person and I'm like, I don't know who that is. Yeah. Because I didn't watch the last four. Yep.

Exactly, Mason. Are they all on something? Stan, maybe. Okay. They're all on something? Stan, maybe. Okay. They're all on Stan. Probably a Stan iconic movie series. Whoa! Yeah, right?

Anyway, they're good. And that Niamh Campbell, pretty good. Oh, yeah? And they should have paid her properly for the new one. Agreed. Yeah. Anything else? I've been pretty busy.

I downloaded a bunch of those Netflix games today, you know, the ones you can get as video games, and I'll probably play some of them. I downloaded that Ninja Turtles game even though I've already finished it. Oh, yeah. It's just good to have it on a different platform. It was mostly to show my son to be like, look at this, I've got Ninja Turtles on this.

He's like, oh, my God. What have you got on your phone? Hey, that's right, you don't have a phone. And you never will. I'll make sure of it. What's your bank balance look like? Oh, you don't have one. I'm going to make you a social outcast. You'll never look at a computer or And you never will. I'll make sure of it. What's your bank balance look like? Oh, you don't have one. I'm going to make you a social outcast.

You'll never look at a computer or play a video game. That's what I said to him. Wow. No, that's not true. Then you got worn out hanging out with him. You're just like, I have everything. I have a bunch of tablets and TVs. It's fine. What else? I don't think I've been

up in... Let me just check the old queue. Is there anything exciting? Oh, I watched Pic just check the old queue. See if there's anything exciting. Oh, I watched Picard, the first episode. Oh, how's that? Yeah, I mean they decided to do Next Gen. Yeah. Which I think a lot of people were like, finally, thank you. I mean Picard is a series, not great,

but it's nice to see him and Riker doing a little mission. Right. And Riker's – he's more like Riker. He's not like pizza oven Riker with his scruffy hair. And he's like, I'm making tomatoes. Oh, sure. Which is what he was in previous seasons. Yeah, right, right.

But I'm like, I don't want happy Riker. I want Riker fucking just being a weird jerk. Do you want him to play the trombone or whatever? Yes. Like he used to do? Yeah. The trombone? Just being super arrogant and confident and yeah, yeah.

Hell yeah. Just a big man walking into a scene. Still waiting on that Strange New Worlds Lower Decks crossover. Oh, yeah, that's happening soon, isn't it? At some point, maybe. I don't know. Jack Quaid. Correct.

Very good. What else, Mason? So would you recommend that I watch Picard? I mean, you like Next Gen, don't you? Yeah. Then it's sort of like that. They need to brighten up their ships, though. They're so dark.

Their ships are so dark. Oh, yeah, because they're in the underground now. They're not. Yeah, I know, but they get on newer vessels and it's all dark. Yeah, but it's thematic. It represents they're not in the Federation. Fucking sucks, man. I don't like it.

Just let me see a chair. Let me look at a big red chair. Yeah, hell yeah. I don't like it. It's a big velvet red chair. Don't you love it in one of these shows where they go and they get on an old set and you're like, ooh. Yeah, I do.

It's true. Just something. It doesn't have to be that, but just, you know. I haven't made ships like this since 2245. 2245. If that is, in fact, before know. I haven't made ships like this since 2245. 2245. If that is, in fact, before now. A star date. I can't remember what year we were in.

Can't remember anything either. Anything else? That's everything, I think. But now it's time for letters, I think. I think that's the perfect opportunity for letters. Letters. The classic one was letters. These roof lights are so bright.

I just looked right at one. You'll never be happy, will you, James? Oh, these starships are too dark. The starships are too dark. Oh, it's too bright. It's too bright in here. What do you want? Mason, it's literally half past midnight, Mason.

That's right. Just cut me some slack. I shouldn't have looked in that light. Now I'm never going to sleep. Watch this. What are you doing there? I doubt it doing that don't look at it i've made a terrible mistake i'm never not gonna be able to not say that what a terrible mistake i've made now if you do want to reach the show it's simple it's as simple as hashtagging weekly planet pod on twitter or shoot us a gmail yes and maybe you'll get through all the spam that we get in that folder

now i don't know it's pretty tough at uh weekly planet pod at gmail.com here's someone who's gone or shoot us a Gmail. Yes. And maybe you'll get through all the spam that we get in that folder now. I don't know. It's pretty tough. At weeklypanapod at gmail.com. Here's someone who's gone through the spam filter. This is from Abigail. Hello, Abigail. Thanks for naming my dog.

You're welcome. Hey, mates, my fiancé and I adopted our first dog together back in December. We had an entire list of potential names that ranged from movie references to car models and parts. Oh. Nothing seemed to fit our kitchen. Muffler. Oh, that's pretty good, actually.

Spark plug. Spark plug is great. Nothing seemed to fit our kit. Muffler. Oh, that's pretty good, actually. Spark plug. Spark plug is great. Steering wheel. Flanges. Hubcap. Fender. Glass. Nice.

Indicator. Hood ornament the dog. Not a dog hood ornament. I know what you mean. Hood ornament the dog. Yeah. Anyway. Rear view mirror.

Side mirror. Very good. The dog. The thing. Hood ornament the dog. Yeah. Anyway. Rear view mirror. Side mirror. Very good. The dog. The thing that opens at the roof. What's it called? Nodding dog in the back. Nodding dog in the back. The dog.

Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Anything else? Trunk space. Trunk space, yeah. Spare tyre. Spare tyre the dog. That's actually great.

Wheel jack. That's a transformer also. Could be tire the dog. That's actually great. Wheel jack. That's a transformer also. Could be a dog though. Could be a dog. And they'd be like, did you know now after the transformer? No. I think wheelie's a good name for a dog, right? Yeah, wheelie's a good name for a dog.

Yeah. Especially because it has wheels. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Glovebox. Glovebox. I like that. Yeah.

Gear shift. Unpaid parking tickets in the glovebox. The dog. Banana I forgot about in the glove box. The dog. Banana I forgot about under the chair. Oh, no. That's bad news, isn't it? Oh, no. Yeah.

Anyway, nothing seemed to fit our cute new pup until our second day with him. I was watching the Titanic Caravan and Garbage episode. The guy screaming Rodney segment suddenly opened my eyes to what our dog's name was. I looked at my fiance and said, let's name him Rodney. He loved the name and stated that his Australian YouTuber's Mighty Car Mods also have an inside joke involving the name Rodney. Really? It was perfect.

The name has stuck ever since. Thanks to both of you for being an amazing part of my life. I listen to the podcast every day while at work. I wouldn't be able to get through the day without you. I attached a picture of Rodney for you to enjoy. Let's see. It's dog time. Dan, that dog's got glasses on.

He's got little safety glasses on. I love that. He's a big fan of that situation. He's helping around the house, it seems. They're doing a bit of work. What sort of dog is that? Kelpie cross, maybe? Looks like a Kelpie, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice. I don't know, though. He looks like he has evil red eyes, though, in this. No, that's a reflection. He doesn't have evil red eyes. Now, there's been some kerfuffle on the internet because our most recent Caravan of Garbage does not have the Rodney supercut in it.

Here's the thing. We forgot to mention it. It's back. Is it? Spoiler alert, it's probably back in the latest. Is it? I think it is. No, it is.

We just forgot. It's not. Yeah. But that's Ben and Lawrence's fault because they also didn't put it in. So, you know, blame them. Wow. Yeah. Congratulations to Lawrence for getting married.

That's right. Yeah, exactly. Really exciting. Yeah yeah he's not getting any time off but uh that's right i appreciate that he's getting married we made him edit videos at his wedding in between speeches very exciting he's like do i have time to do i have time to get married before i edit this video no no no no i just wanted to quickly say last week you read an email about zoro and i feel like i was quite dismissive of that person. I was like, yeah, yeah, I know about Zorro. Anyway, I thought that was quite rude of me. So if you are that person, I apologise and I appreciate your email. If you're even still listening.

Yeah, which you shouldn't be because I was quite rude. Anyway, because I think I was looking up something else at the time for I was trying to find a tweet or something. You were looking up rude comebacks to earnest letter writers. How to do a wiki how on being rude to letter writers. And I think it was successful. I think it was very successful. But I got this one here from Caitlin,

who's hashtag weekly planet pod on Twitter who says, hi, quick QQ as in quick question. Now that we finally have a flash trailer, I wondered, all horribleness aside, do you think this was always their back pocket plan? Could one of the reasons be

that it's taken so long is because it's been a restart? Thoughts? I think probably there's a very good chance that they were going to throw this out to restart something, but maybe they didn't know what. Or maybe they did and it changed. That's the point of Flashpoint, right? So you can literally do anything afterwards.

That's true, yeah. So yes, I do think that. Well, and luckily after this, once they've done Flashpoint, if the next variation of the universe fails, they've just got a bunch of other reboot options. They could do Crisis on Infinite Earths. Yep. They could do Zero Hour. Yep.

They could do Infinite Crisis. Yep. They could do another big crisis. They could have a big cry. Dark Crisis? They could do a big cry. There is a Dark Crisis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dark Knights Metal. They could do another big crisis. They could have a big cry. Dark Crisis. They could do a big cry. There is a Dark Crisis. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dark Knights Metal. They could do, there's too many Jokers now. Yeah. There's so many different things they could do. So many options for just panicked reboots they could do. I love it. Yeah. I'm a big fan of all of that.

So, yeah, but I mean that is the point of Flash, yeah, of Flashpoint. It was like the kicking off point for New 52. That's the slogan as well. That's the point of the Flash. It's the point we're changing some things but not everything. We're like the kicking off point for New 52. That's the slogan as well. That's the point of the Flash. It's the point we're changing some things but not everything. We're changing the things that doesn't make money. That's right. Yeah.

What else have you got, Mason? Actually, here's something that I didn't mention earlier. This is not letter related. And what are we doing? I bet some people emailed in about it. It's the 35th anniversary of the TV series Red Dwarf. Did you know that? I did know.

I saw that because I follow some Red Dwarf accounts. Original run, 15th of February, 1988. Wow. What an era. Is that coming back soon or what? Aren't they bringing that back again? That's a great question. Did you watch the movie that they brought out?

I'm a couple of seasons behind. Okay. The lost people, forgotten people. I don't mind the new stuff. I didn't mind the movie. I didn't love Back to Earth. That was like the 2008 one. That was a long time ago, yes.

That sucks. That one sucks. But then there was some subsequent stuff that I enjoyed. There's some stuff after that which is not bad. But I'm at least a couple of seasons behind. Yeah. But yeah, it's, you know, real pretty good. I agree.

Anyway, that's our Red Dwarf episode. That is. We've done it yet again. You're welcome, Red Dwarf fans. Somebody will compile these one day into one episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, here's an email. Oh, okay.

Go on. This is from Sam. Sam? He says, yeah. Anyway, here's an email. Oh, okay, go on. This is from Sam. Sam? He says, after many years, I found my Maiso. Whoa, what? That's right, my condolences.

Is it you? No, it's what? Hello, guys. Sam here from Sweden. I was depressed during a lot of years and one of the few things that kept me going was my love for nerdy movies

and looking forward to any new superhero movie that was coming out. I also watched a lot of review channels on YouTube and secretly dreamt of someday starting my own review channel. During those years, the review I always looked forward to the most was the review on your podcast.

He's talking about us. That's right. Eventually feeling better, I met my future wife and started a new job managing an independent cinema and that's where I met my meso, the true yin to my yang, and we decided to start a movie review channel. Since then, I don't listen to any more reviews because I don't want to be influenced by other reviewers' thoughts. Understand that.

But the only review I'm still listening to after recording my own is your podcast, and you guys still give me plenty of joy after so many years. Now, you're not going to name it, though, are you? That looks like what you're going to do. You're not going to name it. No, he hasn't. What, really?

Yeah. Oh, I've opened YouTube so I can look it up. Yeah, yeah. I just wanted to send you my love and many thanks for inspiring me to take the step to becoming a movie reviewer. Can I be the Swedish James of the podcast and my partner Sebastian the Swedish Nick Mason? Yes.

Yeah, cool. Congratulations. That's awesome. That's very exciting. It's fun to do a thing, isn't it? It is fun to do a thing. Yeah, get those thumbnails absolutely popping. It gets the people and it says something like,

crap film across it all. Nice. This made me want to die and bad actor, bad person. Too much CGI ruining cinema. That's right. Yeah. You know, something like that. Glovebox full of parking tickets?

Question mark? Emotional? Yeah. That would be emotional. I've mentioned this before, but some people are always like, oh, I think there's actually too many podcasts. I think there's actually too many YouTube channels or whatever. And it's like if you were like –

I mean it would be if you had to consume literally everything. Well, exactly. But I always think it's like if somebody was like, I'm thinking about learning to play the guitar. And you were like, there are already people who can play guitar really well actually. Well, that is true though. Yeah. There's actually enough.

Have you ever heard of The Edge? Yeah. From you two. He's pretty good. I mean when he dies, maybe you can start. But before then, do not. That's very true. God, I hope heard of The Edge? Yeah. From you two. He's pretty good. I mean, when he dies, maybe you can start. But before then, do not. That's very true. God, I hope he doesn't die this week.

He could die later and then this wouldn't. Sure, yeah. No one would email me. That'd be great. Mason. This is from Lewis who says, hashtag weekly planet pod. Isn't Clooney and Keaton the same Batman from the same continuity so it makes sense for Clooney to appear?

No. I think it's. The answer is no. Somebody came out and said. Batman 89, the comic book. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's been confirmed that they're not. I mean, they were and there are some elements that carry over,

but they're not anymore. But because of the existence of the Batman 89 comic book, which continues the adventures of Keaton Batman after Batman returns, it is a separate universe. Which is also in the Superman 78 universe apparently. It's true. The one universe. And maybe the Wonder Woman universe also.

Wonder Woman. Actually, that's not true. That's not true. Pretty good. I thought so. Yeah. So it wouldn't make sense. Oh, yeah.

I mean, you know, nothing makes sense also. Very true. Just bear that in mind. But no. Not a terrible question. What have you got, nothing makes sense also. Very true. Just bear that in mind. But no, not a terrible question. What have you got, Mason? This is from Robert. He's got a suggestion for our book club.

I love a book club. The Big Sandwich Classic Comic Book Club, which of course is a bonus podcast you get if you subscribe to BigSandwich.co. It's true. And we review and discuss comic books. Yeah. I mean, we're pretty good at it except we don't know how to describe art. No.

But if we could. We go, boy, isn't it? This is good art. If only you could see it on this audio media. I looked at it all day. Say to each other. He said, hey, dude. Hey, what?

I'm assuming he's referring to me. Okay. I recently joined the oversized Asani gang. That's us. Yeah. And I'm making my way through Kamikabook Club and thought I'd throw out a suggestion. Ultra Mega from Image Comics and James Herron and Dave Stewart. Starts off as a gory Power Rangers but quickly gets weird in the best way.

I adored it. My bad if you already covered it. We haven't, but that sounds really good. What's that called, sorry? Ultra Mega, all one word. Is that part of the neon black thing? It sounds like it is, isn't it? Yeah.

It's radiant black. Radiant black. I don't know if it is. But I think I've. It's Radiant Black. Radiant Black. I don't know if it is. But I think I've heard good things about Ultra Mega. Cool. All right. I'll check this. Image Comics produces good stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool, man. It is cool. I got one more tweet here from Amanda who says, hashtag weekly planet pod, what is the more potent Australian creature threat? Magpies, Huntsman Spiders, or something else? Magpies.

Yeah. Huntsman Spiders are not poisonous or something else. Magpies. Yeah. Huntsman spiders are not poisonous or venomous or whatever the fuck it is. I can't remember which one. They're just big and they look scary, but they're completely harmless. Exactly, yeah. But magpies will beak you in the head. They will. They'll beak you right in the head.

Yeah. And they remember you too. They do. They have facial recognition software. That's right, yeah. She do. They have facial recognition software. That's right, yeah. She says, I'm terrified of spiders. So obviously the thought of massive ones just occasionally showing up to your house is absolutely paralyzing.

They're fine. I mean, there is like a shock when you come across one. They often live in like piles of wood and shit. But if you are, if you put out a bunch of daddy, if you have a bunch of daddy long legs, they normally keep a bunch of the other spiders at bay. That's true. Because they're super poisonous.

But no, we have white-tailed spiders are more poisonous. Poisonous, yeah. Or venom, whatever. They never killed anybody apparently. Red-backed spider is very poisonous but less common. Snakes, super fucking poisonous depending on the snake. Or venomous depending on the snake. Browns are venomous, yeah.

Some are poisonous and some are venomous probably uh very true brown snakes bad tiger snake is bad um just don't touch anyone have chlamydia also they're violent so if you see one they can like don't touch them because they can like scratch you they can fuck you up for real kangaroos also they can kick you open like so i've had like cousins and uncles who've lost dogs to kangaroos um a wombat will fuck up your car like if you hit one um it'll pull the hood on of it off and stare you down what are you gonna do what now i'm a wombat anyway my other joke before was um it was a chris franklin joke and it was what was it it? It was bloke her face. That's right.

So Chris Franklin, he was a parody or maybe still is comedian and he did a, what was the song that he did? He did Bloke, which was a parody of Meredith Brooks' song Bitch. Yeah. So it's I'm a bloke, I'm a yobbo and my best friend's name is Robbo. It was that. Yes. And so I should. You should pitch him.

Yadigaga. You should find him and you should pitch him blokeface. Yeah. So anyway, I just, you know, that's a pretty good idea and too likely. And very timely, I think, as well. Because when did poker face come out? Like 2005 or something. Very timely.

But it's, you know. I think it was closer to like 2010. Okay, great. I've got one more email. This is from Carl. Good morning, afternoon, or evening to you, mates. Hello. I was just listening to the kill count of Scream 3 by Dead Meat on YouTube.

Oh, yeah. And they mentioned that Patrick Dempsey was hired for that movie the day before they started shooting. This reminded me of your Transformers 3 Caravan of Garbage when you mentioned he was also hired the day before shooting. Wait, he's in Scream 3? Apparently. I'm not up to that one yet.

You're in Scream 2, I just saw. I've seen it, but I haven't... This begs a few questions. Does Patrick Dempsey's agent hate him? Is that how Patrick Dempsey likes to do his movies, no preparation needed? Do these movies just make up a role for him on the day? God, that's bizarre.

Right? Who is he? The fuck is he in that movie? I don't know. I guess I'll find out. I don't remember loving Scream 3. Maybe he's Scream. Maybe he's Mr. Scream.

Eee! Ah, help! It's interesting. What's Patrick Dempsey up to? That's a great question. He's always looking good. Yeah, it's true. He's always looking very sharp.

His wife sells some kind of hair product. He's always promoting on his Instagram Demp's hair Patrick Demp's hair It's like damp hair, but it's Demp's hair What it is, it's like getting a liver transplant But his hair He gives you a little sample

Wouldn't mind that at all He did another Enchanted or whatever He probably turned up in Grey's Anatomy In another dream sequence He was in Money Can't Buy Your Love from the 80s. Anything else, Mason, or should we wrap this? I think that's the whole show. Bad boy up.

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So James and Mace, if you ever read this on your show, I will hear it about approximately two years later. We'll never read it. And also, who knows if you're still sticking around by then? Who listens to this show for two years? I guess a bunch of people, right? Some people, sure. Yeah, pretty good numbers. But no, thank you. Brian P.Y.

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I saw that. Congratulations. Do you know Patrick Dempsey has been in a show called Devils since 2020? No. The fuck is that? I don't know. Anyway, go on. Me and Patrick Dempsey wear the same brand of sweater.

Is it true? Yes. More like you copied Patrick Dempsey. I did copy Patrick Dempsey. He's pretty cool though. Yeah, yeah. Unless he's not, in which case I take it back. He seems cool.

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What? Have you seen the webcomic Swan Boy? Yes. By Branson Reese? I do, yeah. It's very funny. He's a horrible little swan. He's a horrible little swan boy.

And it's very meta. It's very meta, but it's really good. Sometimes he's in a dream or something. Sometimes he's in a dream, sometimes he's in a coffee shop. Who knows where this guy's going to be at. But I've just been getting into it recently. You don't need to follow on, do they? Only in the

loosest possible sense. Sometimes there'll be like a three strip arc or something like that. But you can read them backwards if you want to. You'll get it. But anyway, it's a good pop. Do you think it'll ever make a newspaper? That it'll never be in a newspaper? Never. I hope he does a published book, though.

Yeah. I'd be down for that. Cool. I bought a T-shirt. All right. I believe you. But I'd buy a book. Yeah.

Which is the... Do you think Patrick Dempsey will see you in the T-shirt and then buy it like he did with your sweater? Yeah, maybe. That'd be cool. He's a real slave to trends, that guy. So I reckon probably. Typical.

Anyway, thank you to the Brute and the Bassist. I'm going to rack them for all our musical themes. And that is the whole show next week, a different thing probably. Wow, what is it? Cocaine Bear. That's going to be out. We could see that. I've been seeing little viral advertisements around Melbourne for Cocaine Bear,

the little warning signs that say Hi Bear. I think you've seen people selling cocaine. I am seeing that also, yes. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I played the Cocaine Bear like they'd made a Pac-Man game where you've got to eat cocaine and people selling cocaine. I am seeing that also, yes. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I played the cocaine bear like they'd made a Pac-Man game where you've got to eat cocaine and people. Huh.

Yeah. It's all right. Love it. Yeah. And also Snake Eyes, obviously. Oh, you'll do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

Thanks, everybody. Grab that, Jamie. Guys, we'll see you next week. And goodbye. Poker face. Is that how that song ends? Yep. So on the radio it fades out. She says goodbye. Pokerface! Is that how that song ends? Yep. So on the radio it fades out.

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