The Weekly Planet - 467 Cocaine Bear & More Lord Of The Rings

Episode Date: February 27, 2023

Big week for Cocaine eating bears with the release of Cocaine Bear. We review that in addition to more Lord Of The Rings forever, Warner Brothers sues Paramount, things not looking great for Suicide S...quad: Kill the Justice League, bad word of mouth for Aquaman 2 and more listed below! Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Skip extra few minutes when avoiding spoilers. Feeds on Patreon, YouTube and bigsandwich.co are unaffected.00:00 The Start03:57 More Lord of the Rings17:53 Warner Bros vs Paramount21:05 Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League31:20 HOT SCOOP Steven Yeun's Character joins MCU Thunderbolts32:30 Ant Man & The Wasp: Quantumania VFX36:18 James Gunn's Superman Legacy Movie41:17 Aquaman: The Lost Kingdom is Bad Apparently43:42 HOT SCOOP The Flash Post Credits Scene (potential spoilers 43:32 to 45:56)45:56 The Umbrella Academy Season 4 Casting47:43 The Flash Early Release48:13 Cocaine Bear Review (spoilers 01:02:20 to 01:10:35)01:10:35 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:18:40 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravan of... No, that's the different thing. It's a different thing. Fucking hell, that was... I did not mean that. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the
Starting point is 00:00:46 Weekly Planet, the podcast we do, and that's where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. That's correct. Because I said that, and then I looked at my notes and I'm like, wait a minute. You're all in a tizz because you're on a different computer this week. My computer has had a big breakdown again. Not because I dropped it this time. Sure.
Starting point is 00:01:02 But anyway, Nick Mason's here and we're going to talk about movie news and then cocaine. James, I understand what you're going through because we also do a thing with the videos and stuff. Oh, yeah. You also. Caravanser Garbage, I'm also on that. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:01:17 And we're roughly in the same positions when we record that. That's a good point. If anybody could understand my plight, it's you who literally records everything with me. That's right. I guess that, yeah. Yeah, it's you who literally records everything with me. That's right. I guess that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:01:28 We do need a whiteboard. I know, right? You should get one. But then you have to also put it up. I don't want to do anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need a whiteboard, and it needs to have those sticky things where you just pull the strips off, and then it stickies to a wall.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Yeah. And we also need somebody else to order it and deliver it. Oh, man. And install it. But I also don't want to. But if they're going to install it, we might as well have a proper one. Yeah, and I don't want to deal with anybody also. Exactly, right? I want it to just happen.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I come in and go, oh, yeah. Because a guy will come in. Yeah. You know, a guy with a real job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he'll be like, what are you? What's this for? What's this for?
Starting point is 00:01:59 Why do you have a goat puppet? Yeah, exactly. I'm like, none of your business. What do you have a TV that doesn't work? What do you have this laptop stand that doesn't have anything on it? These are all great questions. Why is the room so blank? What do you want? Filled with Funko Pops, Mason?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Is that what you want? Yeah. Anyway, here's the news of the week. You can skip ahead to any particular section if you do want. That's right. We're going to talk about more Lord of the Rings. Yes. We're going to talk about the Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League video game that has the internet in a flurry. We're going to talk about some McFlurry. It the Justice League video game that has the internet in a flurry. We're going to talk about some McFlurry.
Starting point is 00:02:28 It's being sponsored by McDonald's. Very good. We've got some MC News, including some casting. That's right. It's MC News. MC News. And then something about why Ant-Man doesn't look as good as other things and the reason behind that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Is that going to be breaking any ground? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Yeah. Then James Gunn got some news on his Superman movie. Shazam's opening weekend, how that's looking. Aquaman 2 is apparently not looking good or who knows. Maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:02:56 A bizarre quote from that article. I don't know if. I might not have the exact quote. I have some quotes. We'll find out. And then the Flash news is flash do you have a scoop is that something i might have a scoop somebody is sent in a gmail and uh i also might be legit i might have a little scoop too but it might be legit but also uh i'm very easy
Starting point is 00:03:16 to trick yeah and i've done some due diligence but it's also very easy to like leapfrog my due diligence yeah with basic subterfuge, I think, because I'm not clever. If you don't put a spelling error in it, we'll be like, that's probably legit. That's probably legit, yeah. Or even if not, I'd be like, well, yeah, Andy Machete probably would do some spelling mistakes, I guess.
Starting point is 00:03:37 People make mistakes. Mistakes, yeah. And he probably does have a large fortune in Nigeria that he has to get out of the country, and all I have to do is I have to give him some money to pay off the crooked officials, and then he'll give me $47 million. It sounds like it. It sounds legit, right?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Also, with that scoop in particular, that movie I feel like is going to flash, could change multiple times. That's true, yeah. Oh, maybe it's a lock by now. I don't know. We'll get into it. Anyways, Mason. We'll do what we always do. If we get a scoop. Oh, and then Cocaine That's true, yeah. Oh, maybe it's a lock by now. I don't know. We'll get into it. Anyways, Mason.
Starting point is 00:04:06 We'll do what we always do. If we get a scoop. Oh, and then cocaine bear. Yeah, yeah. We'll do what we always do. If we get a real scoop, we'll crow about it for months and point at it as if it were, you know, a real achievement. But if it's not, we'll just quietly sweep it under the rug.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And nobody say anything. Nobody say anything. Nobody remind us. That's right. Mason, this is by a deadline. Ooh. And they say, more Lord of the Rings. Okay. So here we go. I love like a- I like the tone they took there. That say anything. Nobody remind us. Mason, this is by a deadline. And they say, more Lord of the Rings. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:26 So here we go. I like the tone they took there. That was nice. Yeah. I love the mergers. It was like somebody getting out of bed. Yeah. And they're just sort of resigned to the day.
Starting point is 00:04:36 They're putting on a happy face. They're like, another day off to work. I love this. It's great. I'm not going to drive my car off a bridge. Because there's more Lord of the Rings. Here we go. That's great. I'm not going to drive my car off a bridge. Because there's more Lord of the Rings. Here we go. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I also love these merger and acquisition official press bios that they release because it's just junk with just jargon in it. This one isn't as bad as other ones, but here we go. Following our recent acquisition of Middle Earth Enterprises, we're thrilled to embark on this new collaborative journey as other ones, but here we go. Following our recent acquisition of Middle Earth Enterprises. Yuck. First of all, yuck. We're thrilled to embark on this new collaborative journey with New Line Cinema and Warner Brothers Pictures,
Starting point is 00:05:11 bringing the incomparable world of J.R.R. Tolkien back to the big screen in new and exciting ways. This is Lee Gyunchard, CEO of Fremote, which is part of Embracer Group. I love all these groups. I love all these content groups. What was the first one called? Middle Earth Enterprises.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Middle Earth Enterprises. Yeah. I should bloody call it Mid Enterprises. Whoa. You're signing. That's right. We understand how- Enterprises.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Like the trees. Oh, I thought you meant like the ship. Oh, yeah. Like if you have multiple enterprises. Sure, also that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. Find a cross promotional opportunity, sure. I will. Pic like the ship. Oh, yeah. Like if you have multiple enterprises. Sure, also that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. Find a cross-promotional opportunity, sure.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I will. Picard season four. Oh, I've ended up on the Middle Earth. We've ended up on the Middle Earth planet. Am I in these movies? No. Oh. Just shut up and read the lines.
Starting point is 00:05:57 We understand how cherished these works are, and working together with our partners at New Line Cinema and Warner Brothers Pictures, we plan to honor the past, look to the future and adhere to the strongest level of quality and production values. Now, basically what this means is more Lord of the Rings movies, but we don't know what that looks like. I don't think some people have said like, are they going to redo the original ones? Is it going to be the Silmarillion?
Starting point is 00:06:21 Maybe, but I don't think they're going to redo the original ones. If anything, they're going to try and make a version of that. They're going to somehow try. I mean, they've done that before and they're doing it on TV at the moment. That's right. But that's a hard task to master, Mason. The press release says, and maybe we'll even do a Lord of the Rings television show.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Sorry, I'm just getting something through. Oh, there's been one? It's been and gone. No. It cost a billion dollars, you said. We spent a billion dollars on it. Someone did. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Everyone's already forgotten it. You say that. All people remember is the title sequence. Well, they made it for real or whatever? Yeah. Yeah. All people remember is that weird fly through the cast thing. Oh, that where it looks like a 90s sitcom or whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You're saying we spent a billion dollars and that's all people remember. That Entertainment Weekly little video clip. Okay, terrific. So that, I've actually got a note here specifically for it. That is a separate deal, which is when Amazon paid $250 million in 2018 in order to make five seasons of its Lord of the Rings series, The Rings of Power. Its Lord of the Rings series, The Rings of Power. Its Lord of the Rings, the series.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah. That one's, yeah, I think they're doing a billion a season or whatever. So they pay for the rights and then they're putting additional money into it. Now, look, most people, maybe not most, but a lot of people hate that show. I watched it.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm like, it was all right. I enjoyed some of that. But that's, you know, they also put a billion dollars into it. I'm like, yeah, it's fine. And if people are like, I like Lord of the Rings, should I watch it? Yeah, maybe. It's up to you. Here's something interesting, though, Mason.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Peter Jackson and his writing partners, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, they have been kept in the loop, apparently, on these Lord of the Rings movies. I don't necessarily think that means Peter Jackson is going to be involved. If I was him, I wouldn't because those movies nearly killed him twice. Yeah. Two different times. But, you know, I'm sure they – that's like being like,
Starting point is 00:08:13 well, we're using George Lucas' outline to make a new Star Wars or whatever. You know, you want to get those names on board, you know. You want to get some of those producer credits and et cetera. Yeah. Also, I read recently he's worth a billion dollars now. Yes. Pretty good. That is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Pretty good for a plucky lad from New Zealand, eh? Not bad. I think that's really cool. Yeah. I mean, you know, he nearly died making those movies and he broke label laws. Why not? We've nearly died doing this podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Where's our billion dollars? I almost spoke earlier. Remember that? It was crazy. Yeah. He nearly died of embarrassment. Now, Mason, you love and remember Lord of the Rings, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I was going to say. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say. I was going to say I've just been thinking of potential ideas for Lord of the Rings. That was my question. What about this appeals to you and what would you like to see?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Well, I haven't written here, but I've thought it in my brain. I've written it in my brain. A Three's Company style sitcom called Nine Mortal Men Doomed to Die. Okay. Pretty fun, right? With the rings and the whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they become ringwraiths?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yeah. Interesting. About three rings for the Elven Kings under the sky. Yep. Yeah. So you'd follow that. Yeah. I mean, they're doing that in the series, though,
Starting point is 00:09:21 in the Amazon series at the moment. But yours would be funny? Mine would be funny. It would just be in like a regular sitcom house from the 70s. Okay, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. Aragorn has to pretend to be gay so he can live with the other two women.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Classic. All right. Very true to the character. I think so. Yeah. That's really fun. I mean, do you think they're going to do like – because they've talked about –
Starting point is 00:09:44 Bombadil. All that. Bombadil the series. Are they going to do like, it's like, because they've talked about. Bombadil. All that. Bombadil the series. Are they going to do like Gandalf's side quest? Are they going to do like Aragorn's reign as king? Are they going to do that, as I talked about in the video, like Tolkien started to write a sequel and then went, I hate that. No.
Starting point is 00:09:58 So Tolkien's son is Christopher Tolkien, right? He's also dead, yeah. Okay, so what are the grandkids up to is the question I wanted. I have no idea. Okay. Christopher Tolkien was mainly like compiling and editing works of his father. Yeah, like incomplete manuscripts and things. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I mean, he was also a writer in himself, but it was mostly, yeah, doing a lot of that. It's interesting we haven't seen like the grandkids emerge as like content creators. Yeah, but how much talent, how far does it get, you know? Probably not that far, but all I'm saying is it wouldn't stop them. No. You're probably right. What's the next example of that? Gregory Peck's grandson, Ethan Peck. Is that his name?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Maybe. He's Spock. Yeah, it is Ethan Peck. There you go. There's a perfect example. There's probably others. Frank Herbert's son, other Herbert. He made other books.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Harry Herbert. Harry and the Herberts that's right yes yeah great what kind of New Zealand labour laws do you think Warner Brothers are likely
Starting point is 00:10:50 to shatter this time around all of them the rest of the ones yeah that's part of that press release it says yeah we're gonna break the rest of
Starting point is 00:10:57 New Zealand's labour laws now do you think this is like an MC like you were fine thing where we get one to two movies
Starting point is 00:11:04 a year in you know various incarnations or do you think they're looking to do like a trilogy and then a different trilogy or is it like cycle spin-offs it must be a trilogy thing connected i think they've star wars you know like the mandalorian despite the fact that the hobbit trilogy didn't do very well i think i mean it did monetarily. Yeah, but critically not so much. I think they're probably in their heads, they're like, people want trilogies.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Yeah. We're going to bust out a bunch of trilogies actually. I think that would probably be initially at least the smartest thing to do because I think when people are noticing that like if you throw everything like Star Wars and whatever, because they tried that, they were like, well, we'll do the mainline Star Wars movies and then we'll also make like standalone ones and that fell apart fairly quickly yeah and now they're doing all of that stuff on television and the movies will come back presumably in the next three to four years i don't know and you know the mcu model of like
Starting point is 00:11:57 doing two to three a year it's like it's lord of the rings it's not the same i think you need to make epic big sweeping sagas i think as opposed to like i don big, sweeping sagas. I think. As opposed to like, you can watch this one and we're leading up to. But here's the thing also. Lord of the Rings Avengers style. Nothing is off the table though. I agree with that. Based on what you've said there, of course they want to,
Starting point is 00:12:17 everybody wants an MCU still. Yeah. They've, you know, despite the fact that there are, you know, there's backlash and backlash to the backlash, but that gets people talking. That's right. And look, if they – everything's been put up on the whiteboard because they have a whiteboard. Imagine if we had a whiteboard.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Who's that whiteboard guy? Right? Yeah. Good flight out of the whiteboard guy. Probably very expensive. But I'm sure they're like, okay, we'll do trilogies. We'll do one for kids. We'll do – like we'll do a Mando-style series that's just
Starting point is 00:12:44 Monster of the Week, which is a wandering – Well, this is-style series that's just Monster of the Week. Well, this is strictly movies. It's not part of that deal. Or maybe it is. I don't know. Well, they've got HBO Max. Warner Brothers owns... I don't know who owns anything anymore. Embracer Group.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Middle Earth Enterprises. We've talked about Embracer Group before, haven't we? Yeah, that's part of it. I mean, we've talked about embrace a group before haven't we yeah well that's yeah that's part of it yeah i mean you know like we have talked about you know star wars it's all varying quality depending on who you are but it's also different market sectors yeah you cannot be expected to love everything and they're like okay well people you know people who want a adventure of the week they like mando and people who want a good one, they want Andor and so forth. Yeah. I think the problem with this is also they have mined of Moria,
Starting point is 00:13:31 thank you, the main source materials that people know. I know you'd mentioned like the Cimmerillion and whatever and there are other writings that people know. Like I won't name them. I could. I choose not to. Sure, sure, sure. But they've mined the core idea.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So a lot of the stuff that they'll have to end up doing is based loosely on something or completely off book. Yes. And either way. That's why I asked about the kids. Yeah. Because I wonder if, I feel like there's certain creators where they go, okay, well, the sun was heavily involved in the creation of this. And so if they write a new thing, it's like, well, it's considered canon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:06 But, like, at a certain point it gets diluted where you go, well, just because the grandkids wrote this Sherlock Holmes story or whatever doesn't mean it's canonical, obviously. But so. Because how far does the juice go? How far does the juice go is a great question. That's on the whiteboard. How far does the juice go?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Yeah. And I think when you look at. Do you get a Tolkien kid and just get him to endorse a thing that got ghostwritten? Yeah. But I don't think that counts for shit. People don't care. But I mean, that's also the thing. If you just say these are just for huge Tolkien fans, well, there's not that many of them compared to the general.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Yeah. Tolkien fans, well, there's not that many of them compared to the general. Yeah. I'm sure if they said, okay, well, it's Gary Tolkien's new series of books and they get somebody else to write them, I think some people would go, well, obviously this is a shameless cash grab or whatever, but other people would be like, ooh, elves. Elves and whatever. Right?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah, because if you look at like there's a lot of people that, you know, don't like the sequel trilogy for a number of reasons, but it might be because they're not what George Lucas would have would have wouldn't have would have done so that doesn't count as like yeah real star wars and i think that's what we're where we're sitting here as well well and also sort of the mcu is sort of that middle ground yeah a lot of it is based on the comic books but oftentimes very loosely based and there are new, there are MCU storylines that are so loosely based. They are basically new and.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, it's just a name. Yeah, so that's the test bed and obviously here they've gone, well, you know. Yeah. What if we just, come on, come on guys, just watch some new stuff for us. Do you think they're going to go to cast members, old cast members? Like Christopher Lee. Maybe not him necessarily. Ask for his blessing. Maybe somebody else who's alive
Starting point is 00:15:47 potentially. You know, do you do like I mentioned, like Aragon's reign for a bit, you know? And maybe what happened in Hobbiton because there were various battles and whatever that happened post Lord of the Rings. So my brother tells me he's the one you don't like. He's a big Lord of the Rings nerd. Yeah, just unbearable.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Mason. And that's me saying that and I have to hang out with him yeah well considering none of this is costing me any money personally you're not part of
Starting point is 00:16:13 Embracer Group I'm not part of Embracer Group that I know about yeah although maybe this podcast will be acquired and we will both become
Starting point is 00:16:19 part of Embracer Group um what can we get for this nothing not that much nothing we'll have to work harder for less I'll do the whiteboard What can we get for this? Nothing. We'll have to work harder for less, probably. I'll do the whiteboard. Give me the whiteboard. Yeah, so what you're saying, you don't care is what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:16:32 I don't care what they do with it. I think I would love to see just some people taking a shot at it. I mean, get who's doing, I was going to say George R.R. Martin. He'll never finish his own books. He's not going to. He's done with those. I think maybe they missed a trick in continuing Lord of the Rings after
Starting point is 00:16:48 Tolkien died in other ways? Because a lot of it is just manuscripts and whatever. But if you actually continue the story with the characters, with other writers, including his son, I think people might be more receptive to it now. Not because necessarily they're good, but because they have happened. Yeah. This is, I
Starting point is 00:17:04 feel like, maybe, this is like for fans of Watchmen, getting people, we need somebody to step up and have the balls, James. And like put their face and name to it. Yeah, the gumption. We need like a huge, like a George R. R. Martin, but somebody who will actually follow through and finish something. J.J. Abrams? J.J. Abrams could be like, I'm going to write a new Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 00:17:27 What's in the treasure chest? We don't know. I don't know. I'm leaving. You figure it out. Thank you. I'll take this $500 million and I'm leaving. That was in my treasure chest.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Anyway, see you later. Anyway, it's glowing or something. You do something with that. I figured that out. It's glowing like another thing that glows. Probably a dragon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't have to be. That's my idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could be.
Starting point is 00:17:45 It doesn't have to be. That's my idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that doesn't have to be. I'm not married to it. Yeah. I reckon you get somebody big in the fantasy novel world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Who is maybe. But you need someone also who's like, feel more television, I reckon. Oh, that's true, yeah. You know? Get the guy, whoever directed Dungeons and Dragons, the new Dungeons and Dragons, get him in. JJ Abrams, actually. Get him in.
Starting point is 00:18:11 You did a pretty good job, you could say. I don't know who directed that. No one does. Yeah. No one does. I think it's someone comedic from memory. Anyway, while this is all happening, also Warner Brothers are suing Paramount over its $500 million licensing deal
Starting point is 00:18:24 that they had with South Park or something. I had that here, yeah. Somebody put streaming – oh, yeah, you didn't do one bit of news last week, Mason. Well, I like to think that in a lot of – That's one. Put it on the whiteboard. In a lot of small or large ways, I like to think that I contributed to that episode in a great way that means in a lot of ways is equal or surpasses one bit of news.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Abstract thought is not valid. But also I knew that I didn't and I just couldn't be bothered that week. So you kept one. Oh, I have to get you three two more times. Yeah, you're one third of the way to getting another veto, of which you still have three. That's true. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So any time you want to stop the fun, any time you want to be a big killjoy. I do like stopping fun. Yeah, it's true. I just want to stop the most fun though. That's right. I just want to wait until we're having the most most fun i think you should develop a catchphrase for stopping the fun okay you know stop the fun i'll say no i don't like that it should be better all right um yeah the warner brothers discoveries which is fascinating it is fascinating it is
Starting point is 00:19:18 so warner brothers discovery has filed a lawsuit against paramount global who are probably part of embrace a group probably not probably not alleging that the latter company paramount global backed has filed a lawsuit against Paramount Global, who are probably part of Embracer Group. Probably not. Probably not. Alleging that the latter company, Paramount Global, backed out of certain parts of their $500 million licensing deal for the streaming rights to South Park. Isn't that wild? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:34 So that was because they'd made some direct streaming movies. They can't say movies. Production? No, you can say events. Events. They're not allowed to say movies because their contract stipulated they couldn't produce any movies. Long episodes of a show.
Starting point is 00:19:50 They couldn't say specials either because they'd already made a couple that were called specials, so they have to call them events now. God. Pretty good, right? I mean, what are we doing? I don't know, but also there's enough South Park. Yeah, absolutely. So clearly somebody's gone, clearly somebody at Paramount has gone,
Starting point is 00:20:10 we need to spend $500 million on this. We need to have this because we think we'll spend $500 million and we'll get more even though people can just watch it on another streaming service probably or have most of them on DVD or whatever. South Park fans seem like the type who would have everything on DVD. You're absolutely right, yeah. I look at them and they go, that's great comedy. That's very, I see both sides.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah, that's right. Which is me. I have all the DVDs, mostly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love looking at both sides and going, well, everyone can be valid. That's what I think. Anyway, who will win? But don't even worry about it, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Also don't worry about it. Ultimately, you know, it's just why can't people just sit around and talk about the issues anymore, you know? Yeah. Why can't they just do that? Ultimately, do you feel like as a result of this, who cares? Yeah, I do, which is the very ethos of South Park. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And the fact that there's $500 million. They were also on the list, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, of this list of people who are worth millions. Oh, okay. I saw an infographic. I saw a list. It was an infographic. One of them was worth like $750 million.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Yeah, one's got more. One's worth $500 million. Did they both do the Book of Mormon or did one of them do it? Is that how that works? I don't know. Maybe somebody saved their basketball money. Maybe somebody did save their basketball and or orgasmo money. Maybe, yeah, that's probably it.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Maybe one of them got a little back end for – Team America World Police? I was going to say for real big fish's cover of Take On Me, which I think is in basketball. You might be right. Yeah. Yeah. Mason, this week we saw more of Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League,
Starting point is 00:21:34 which is Rocksteady's new video game. So they created the first three Arkham games, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight. They didn't make Arkham Origins. Oh, the last thing that happened. Gotham Knights. Yeah. So this is set,
Starting point is 00:21:48 Kill the Justice League is set in the continuity of Arkham Knights. Their trilogy. And it's set five years later. Eight years later. No, sorry, yeah, right, sorry. But it took eight years in development. Now, I love the idea of this
Starting point is 00:21:59 where you are members of the Suicide Squad and you have to take on the Justice League. Using all their signature weapons, all their various. That drink is so loud. I know. It's just been fizzing for ages. Is this a poison drink? Did you hand me a poison drink?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Extra fizz? One of our drinks has poison in it, but I cannot remember which one for the life of me, Mason. Do you think it's the one that's carbonated regularly or this one that will not stop fizzing? Put it up to the microphone. It's a weird noise too. It's an intense fizz. I like how you put it behind the pop filter.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Oh. Well, it's a soda pop, James. Oh, good. Anyway. Wow, what a world. It's getting... It's filling up more. I don't understand. Why are you drinking it? Probably because of the poison. Because of the poison in it. Yeah. They're getting. It's getting. It's filling up more. I don't understand. Why are you drinking it?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Probably because of the poison. Because of the poison. And it's, yeah. They're not normally that fizzy. No. That's really weird. Anyways, here's the thing about this. Anyway, I was going to say this.
Starting point is 00:22:52 With all their signature weapons, you're going to use Captain Boomerang's classic boomerangs, aren't you, James? Yes. No, he's just got a gun. They've all just got guns. They've all just got. Well, he also. And they also have modes of traversal.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yes, like Gotham Knights. But it's like, it's swinging or you throw your boomerang and then you zip to it or whatever the other two do. Yeah, so Captain Boomerang has a speed force gauntlet. Yeah. He takes it off a wall in a trophy room or something like that. That's so distracting. It's very distracting.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It's so loud, Mason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if anybody could even hear it. But, yeah, so look, there is, is look one thing i'll say there is some precedent for captain boomerang because captain boomerang obviously is a flash road i don't mind the specifics and his son i think has super speed powers in addition to having boomerang so in this continuity i'm like yeah whatever give them they all need otherwise they're just they're gonna get killed immediately otherwise at the very least harley deadshot and captain boomerang
Starting point is 00:23:42 are just people walking around a big city because they've got no other way to get around. So, yeah, Harley has a grappling hook and Deadshot has a jet pack and King Shark has just got something. One of them floats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. But here's the thing, right?
Starting point is 00:23:58 It just looks like a looter shooter. Maybe it'll still going. What is happening? I don't know. I'm going to take a sip and see if it disables it'll see what happens. Still going. What is happening? I don't know. I'm going to take a sip and see if it disables it or if I die. But like
Starting point is 00:24:07 why put in four characters where they seem to it's mostly like brawling and shooting. Right. And I know that Traversal looks different.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Yeah. That's the thing. It looks like a looter shooter and here's some other information about it. And you can tell that the plan for this was like five or six years ago at the minimum.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's been eight years. Because a lot of this stuff brands are moving away from, like Embracer Group probably. It's got six different in-game currencies. Missions can be played as single player, but there's also a built-in co-op. There's battle passes with cosmetic items. You have to be online to
Starting point is 00:24:42 play. So all this is going away. See, I'm perpetually several years behind. As you know, James, the last game I played was a point-and-click adventure where you play a Victorian lady who wears trousers. Yes. So it was excavating a barrow. Yeah. So I'm not up to date.
Starting point is 00:24:57 None of this seems familiar to you? No, but I do know there's been a huge backlash against loot boxes and that sort of stuff. There's a finite amount of time that people have. What? And these ones are like stuff like this. James, small existential crisis. Thought I was going to live forever.
Starting point is 00:25:14 But, like, if you're into. You think this will help me live forever? Yes. This perpetually fizzing drink? Well, in a way you'll be remembered as the guy who drank a drink he shouldn't have. But, like, you know, you either might be playing a Destiny or a Fortnite
Starting point is 00:25:28 or various versions of COD or whatever the fuck people are playing. I don't know. Fall Guys? What are they doing? Yep, we're all playing Fall Guys. That's right. Yeah. And also, Rocksteady are committed to supporting the game far after launch with new characters, missions, and weapons. And here's the thing. We just fucking
Starting point is 00:25:44 did this with the Avengers. Oh, okay. And here's the thing. We just fucking did this with the Avengers. Oh, okay. And Gotham Knights, yes. Two examples. And, okay, this- Those characters also had different ways of traversing the city, if you recall. That's true.
Starting point is 00:25:55 How is there- And look, to be fair, it looks better than the Avengers. And I like this- Metropolis looks amazing. And every cut scene I see, great. Love the story, love the interaction, love the idea of this. Voice acting is great. All of that I'm on board with.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And this is obviously a game built around being constantly online, getting money out of people, grinding online currencies. Just keep going and going and going forever. Excavating a barrow in the Victorian era. Wearing a pant. Going on a big train. Going to a town and they're like, we're going to like strangers around here. I mean, if you look, look, I didn't buy the new Harry Potter game.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I'm not going to buy it. It sold well anyway. Like it sold like 12 million copies because that's not an online forever. People want to walk around Hogwarts and speak to a fucking book or whatever the fuck people do in that. That to me is exhausting. I don't want to touch around Hogwarts and speak to a fucking book or whatever the fuck people do in that. That to me is exhausting. I don't want to touch that regardless, right? And even look at Guardians of the Galaxy.
Starting point is 00:26:50 They put all their Guardians in, but you play as one and you control the others and you go through a single player narrative, right? That to me makes sense. This is ridiculous. You've spent eight fucking years. You just make a Superman game. People only want to play Superman. Why the fuck would you make this?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Well, we talked about this off air. Rumors are swirling. And by that I mean I saw a few tweets that suggested maybe the reason this took so long is because they had to reverse engineer the Superman game they'd been working on for many years. They took Metropolis. Yeah, there was a lot of talk about like your next one's a Superman game. Don't even worry about it. Maybe it was Superman kills the Suicide Squad very quickly
Starting point is 00:27:33 and then you fly around the city and go, that was great. Amanda Waller hands him that little iPad at the start of the game and you just tap a half a dozen buttons and everybody's heads pop off. Like I like, again, the concept of this is interesting, but I'm not going to get this. I mean, even if they're like, it's amazing, I'm still not going to get it because online connectivity, coins and like upgrading constantly, downloads,
Starting point is 00:28:00 and they're like, we'll support this forever. I don't want to play it forever. I want to play it for 10 to 12 hours max and then never look at it again. Yeah. That's how I. I wanted to. Yeah, exactly that. I wanted to like, I wanted like, and that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Cause I was relying on Rocksteady providing what they did for the previous games. Yeah. Or maybe even a return to the first. Yes. Asylum where it's like, it's a very much, it's a, it's a big Batman adventure. It's a big suicide squad adventure where it's like it's a very much, it's a big Batman adventure. It's a big Suicide Squad adventure where it's very much written
Starting point is 00:28:29 and on rails and. But it's not even on, like, rails because it's like, but, yeah, well, that's one thing. And you saw this happening with the last game. Like, by the end, there was, like, hidden endings if you got all the whatever and you can upload your armor and there's various incarnations you can buy at the start with DLCs and whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And, like, they were leaning this way. And I'm not even saying this is absolutely not the fault of the people who made this game. These are directives, obviously, that you have to choke a game with this shit. Yeah. Or you did five years ago. We did five years ago, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 It's too late to take it out, I guess. I mean, at least we're getting that Wonder Woman game. We're getting a Wonder Woman game which also has the, you know, that orc upgrade system from Shadow of Mordor. Oh, where you get nemeses. And all that, because they own it. Their nemesis system is whoever made that game. You stood off Steve Trevor on a date.
Starting point is 00:29:20 He's your nemesis now. But he's just a regular guy, so whatever. Yeah, you can stand him up again or kill him. That up to you so at least we're getting that but like i think we're at the point where somebody can make a superman game right yeah it can it can be done and every now and then like every few months like a someone makes like a concept in unreal engine where it's superman flying around the city and everyone goes, that would be cool. Someone should do that. And they never do.
Starting point is 00:29:47 They never do, yeah. Somebody should fucking figure that out. And see, that's the thing. Speaking of Superman, I was very excited. How are the Suicide Squad going to defeat Superman in this game? Shooting and punching. Shooting and punching is the answer. But as I was alluding to earlier, James,
Starting point is 00:30:00 Captain Boomerang doesn't have a boomerang. I mean, he's holding a boomerang. That's cool. He's got boomerangs on his suit, but he's just using guns. Yeah. But they're, you know, a variety of incredible guns. Do you think maybe this game started as a Captain Boomerang navigates Metropolis and then it blew out?
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think that's what happened? Yeah, yeah. And they took his boomerang away? Maybe. Or just a Metropolis gun merchant. Yeah. You know, just fires a series of guns,
Starting point is 00:30:26 just shows them off, and then they're like, should we add some skins to this? Make that Captain Boomerang? Sure. Do you remember, like, I wouldn't say that, like, the strength of the Arkham games were necessarily, like, the boss battles, but there are a lot of, like, interesting ways that you could approach certain ones,
Starting point is 00:30:39 like Mr. Freeze or whatever, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you fight Killer Croc in the sewer and stuff like that. You could easily build, like like boss battles around these guys. Are they not doing that? But it seems as if you're in an arena and maybe you shoot them. But I don't know. Maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:30:56 But I just also I look at this and I'm like I've played this. I've played so many games or avoided games that is just this. And it's just really depressing that you are shooting you do seem to be shooting a lot of glowing weak spots in that yeah yeah yeah i don't know i mean that's the thing we don't really i mean thus far i don't recall there being any gameplay footage of his how you is the situation in which you are fighting that is true i don't know maybe the maybe maybe the draw for a lot of people will be, okay, you don't have to really up, you know, it might be one of those games where, like,
Starting point is 00:31:29 you don't have to upgrade your gear and all do this sort of stuff. It's like you can just follow the storyline and get to the, maybe it's an interesting arena. If you're online. If you're online. Maybe it is an interesting arena. That's on the back of the box. I don't know, you follow the story,
Starting point is 00:31:42 maybe there's an interesting arena, you tell us. Should we move it along now? Let's move it along. This is by a deadline. Apparently Stephen Yoon has joined the MCU probably. Ooh. MCU. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Thank you. He's Glenn from The Walking Dead. He's also a talented filmmaker in his own right. He's made a lot of really interesting stuff. The best thing that happened to that guy's career was he bashed his head in in The Walking Dead and he got to make other stuff. Spoiler alert from that thing that happened six that guy's career was like bashed his head in in The Walking Dead and he got to make other stuff. Spoiler alert from that thing that happened six years ago. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Now I've got a potential scoop here from someone who's been fairly reliable in the past. I spoke to somebody at Marvel who said, not like a higher up necessarily, said, and this is the quote that they sent me, we don't even know who he's playing, but my guess is Sentry since there's been whispers of that casting circulating a bit. So he's going to be in the Thunderbolts as Sentry potentially. I say that with the very loosest, like that's what somebody's telling me
Starting point is 00:32:34 who heard from somebody else. But, you know, we'll say he'd be a good Sentry or a bad Sentry. Probably a good Sentry, Mason. A good Sentry. Yeah. Yeah. And he can be quite sort of, you know, I think the idea behind the Sentry is like when he's in sort of human form, he's fairly unassuming kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:32:49 He's just a regular guy down in the dumps, you know. Having a good old time. Yeah. Great stuff, Mason. Great. Speaking of the MCU, this is via Vulture. So some inside of BFX artists have opened up about their work on Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania.
Starting point is 00:33:05 And this is what they said anonymously. Don't tell anybody. Wakanda Forever took precedent. It felt like the higher-ups and supervisors' role were shifted around to put that on their plates, and there was a smaller team working on Ant-Man. It was on the back burner, less of a pressing thing. Maybe the director had an idea of what he wanted, but he wasn't 100% clear. We had a rough environment that we were sticking to,
Starting point is 00:33:24 that we were sticking a few main characters in. At the time we were told where the characters should be in that environment. We were just going with what felt right. Okay. And there were certainly times in Ant-Man where it's like, where's this? What are we?
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yeah. This feels weird and disconnected from whatever was previously happening maybe. Also a clip that's been going around the last couple of days on Twitter. Is it Modoc's butt? It's not Modoc's little butt, although it is being censored apparently in some regions and markets.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I mean that region is certainly being censored. His little butt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's that clip from the end of Captain America, the first Avenger where he wakes up, the post credits, where he wakes up in what he thinks is still the 40s and then it turns into he's actually in the present day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:08 But it's been pointed out, I think, that he's actually interacting with real things in a room. It is interesting when somebody's in a room. It's interesting. He's in a room and he's picking things up and he's, you know, touching the radio or whatever. But it seems like one of the things that leads to this sort of persistent unreality in some of these modern Marvel things is nobody picks anything
Starting point is 00:34:28 up anymore. Yes. Nobody, like, picks up a coffee cup because there isn't one. Yeah, like, you're near things. Yeah. But beyond that. Yeah, yeah. You're not kicking up any dust when you run because there's no dust.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Exactly. Yeah, I completely agree with that. God, just to watch a movie where Captain America's in a room just picking things up. Oh, my God, you know. He's just to watch a movie where Captain America's in a room, just picking things up. Oh, my God, you know? Listening to a ball game. Yeah. I mean, how?
Starting point is 00:34:50 I don't know. But also, like, if you're going with scope and scale, what do you put in the quantum realm to pick up? I mean, anything. It could literally be like a junkyard for things that have shrunk. Yeah. I mean, they pick up some cocktails at one point in the. Yeah, they made a bar.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Quantum Realm bar. Whatever. But were they real drinks? I can't remember. Michael Douglas put his hands in some goo. He put his hands- Or he didn't. Or he didn't, maybe.
Starting point is 00:35:12 He probably didn't. Yeah, I also think, like, if you look at these two movies- And I did. Like, Wakanda Forever clearly had- I don't know whether it's even artistic direction, but that has a feel and a look about it. I mean, I didn't love all the underwater stuff. I was like, wow, look at this murky as shit city. But you felt like the-
Starting point is 00:35:33 Harry, this is Atlanta. This is the tidiest city. We get the tidiest city award in 2015. Wow, really? Yeah, it's on the sign. That's great. But like, you know, all the aesthetic of- I mean, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all the aesthetic of Wakanda and all of that,
Starting point is 00:35:48 like it did feel like real streets and whatever. You see water like flowing into it and paint and clothing and all of these kinds of things. And whereas this one didn't feel like any of that. It was like people standing in a void wearing a cloak and being like, where are we? We're in the quantum realm. Anyway, I thought it was all right.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Christ. Did I stand by that? Yeah, that's right. I know people have talked about the decline of the MCU and whatever, but I think it's only going to take like one or two movies, maybe even just one. People go, I love this. It's back.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And it could very well just be Guardians. Yeah, could be. Yeah. Or it could be a surprising new one. Could be a surprising new one. But I don't like surprises. I want it to be a thing I've already seen. I mean, you know, I think there's been moments.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Like I think Werewolf by Night to me was like, this is reinvigorating. I liked a lot of Spider-Man. I liked Shang-Chi. I liked Loki. I liked WandaVision. You liked Thor, Love and Thunder. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I hated that movie. Awful. Worst thing I've ever done. What about that? No, it is. Here's some DC News, Mason. Now, James Gunn has revealed that he was hired to write Superman Legacy six months ago. done. What about that? No, it is. Here's some DC news, Mason. Well done. Now, James Gunn has revealed that he was hired to write Superman Legacy six months ago.
Starting point is 00:36:49 This would have been before the release of Black Adam. Now, I feel like, yeah, so they probably asked him what he wanted to do, and he said, because he had pretty much had carte blanche to make whatever he wanted, and he chose Peacemaker, Suicide Squad, and Superman, it seems. wanted and he chose you know peacemaker suicide squad and superman it seems but i think if black adam had have made i don't know more money sure and this would be the rock henry cavill superman dc universe that we'd be stepping into now i'm sure thank god we are not quite frankly because uh yeah i want to see i mean even if it's bad the james gunn thing i would much rather see what that looks like the the Rock's fucking Black Adam universe.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You don't want to see one of them, either Superman or Black Adam, just hovering sort of in the sky and you see something coming from the distance and it's a blur and then it's the other guy and they smash into each other and then you go off screen and maybe they go through a building or something. Do I want to see that? Somebody's like, it's okay, we've evacuated the city. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:37:47 We learned our lesson from Man of Steel. Do I want to see that? Do you want to see that? Yeah, I mean that I want to see, obviously. Okay, but also, but that for two hours? You want to see that for two hours? I would probably, I could probably sit through three of those movies and then maybe before I've wasted.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Let's do a trilogy. Yes. But just the idea of like, I mean, we've talked about it, but like, oh, look, the hierarchy of the universe is like based around Black Adam. Get the fuck out of here. What are you doing? I mean, you say that, but again, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:16 the hierarchy of the Marvel universe was based on a bunch of B-listers. Yeah, but those are also core characters in the Marvel universe. Black Adam is like, is a D-list, Black Adam is like is a D-list is the villain of a D-list fucking Superman knockoff. Who maybe is older than Superman. I fucking know. I don't remember. He's not. He's a Republican.
Starting point is 00:38:35 He's not interesting enough. And also he's not even interacting with the guy he's supposed to be interacting with. Speaking of. I see what you're saying there but but what I am saying is that like... Anything can be good. You are right. But that, I don't know, maybe I've just been poisoned
Starting point is 00:38:50 because I watched that movie. Maybe you've been poisoned because I put some poison in your raspberry soda. It was you! That's right! So yours is fine and I've been double poisoned. No, mine's been poisoned as well. Okay, great, cool. We're going down together.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Hopefully we can get through this. Because we're friends. Because we poison each other's drinks. I buy a box office... Oh, we poison our drinks at the same time. Oh, my God. We always finish poisoning each other's drinks. That's right. Box Office Pro have said Shazam 2 is expected to underperform
Starting point is 00:39:15 opening weekend with around 43 to 52 million. That's going to be lower than the first Shazam movie in terms of the opening and one of the worst in the DCEU. Let's rally up, folks. Let's all see an opening weekend. I mean, they killed the universe and Black Adam isn't connected. I like the first Shazam and I like the director of this movie, but I can't say I've been overly thrilled at all.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I mean, I'm going to see it because obviously we will talk about it in a couple of weeks, but I can see why maybe this is tracking low, but I could also say like, if it's good people, you know, word of mouth could build them. But it's also,
Starting point is 00:39:52 it's, it's right in the, like movies are ramping up at that time. If you like, we've got Creed three next week screams coming out as well. Yeah. Yeah. There's a bunch of stuff that's happening like after that.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So maybe, I don't know. Yeah. But I've heard that Creed is going to throw a bus at a guy. Is he? He's going to throw a bus at Jonathan Majors. I just threw that freaking bus at that guy. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, yeah. Do you believe? Do you freaking believe it? I freaking believe it, Creed. You did it. But we'll see. I like first Shazam. So why not second Shazam?
Starting point is 00:40:21 Why not second Shazam? And then no more probably, baby. Well, I think you read and also you know it you know in an ideal world people shouldn't be like oh well if this universe is ending I'm not seeing this movie it'll probably stand up well on its own but if you if both major companies have spent the last decade going it's actually really important that all these movies are interconnected it's kind of your own fault, isn't it? Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Isn't it wild, though, and I'm sorry to get back to this, but I just cannot get over it, that they didn't go Shazam 2, he has to fight the previous Shazam who's the rock. Like you don't think that maybe that's the direction you want to take. No, he should fight Helen Mirren. Which is fine too. Like whatever, him and Lucy live on her – I get that. Like I understand. But they only did that because they can't do The Rock obviously. So they made a fucking Black Adam solo movie which is disconnected
Starting point is 00:41:11 from this series. They got a fast saga poster and they scratched off The Rock and then just threw a dart to see what other cast member would be in this movie. Oh, Helen Mirren. All right. Great. That'll do I guess.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Sure. Like nobody thought – because even if you didn't know they were, like, you didn't know who Shazam's villain was, but if his villain turns up and it's The Rock and he's bigger than Shazam and he was previous Shazam or whatever. Yeah, you'd be like, that's spooky. Oh, I get it. And he's Hobbs or Shaw.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Like, I get it. Yes. Anyway, apparently Aquaman 2 is bad. Yeah. But I should preface this by saying, who knows? Changes can be made, edits, reshoots. They're probably recutting a bunch of shit out of this movie anyway, which we'll talk about also.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And the quote that I was referring to earlier that I saw on Twitter was, people who have seen it said, it is the worst DCEU movie ever. Oh, my God. And I'm saying. No. No. You're saying no. No, I'm saying it could be, but I'm just saying that is a hell
Starting point is 00:42:09 of a thing to say. Like, just what a statement to make. Are you sure? Think about it. Think about it. Because the bar is below you. I'm going to give you a minute to think about that. Just reassess what you've just said there.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Because you can't take it back. Once you've said it's the worst one ever, think about all the – maybe you've forgotten some. I'm going to open up IMDB and I'm going to show you all the other ones. And then you – you can think about it. This is an open book test. You can look at all the other ones. You don't have to –
Starting point is 00:42:39 You can even re-watch some. You can bring some clips up on your phone. Let me know tomorrow. Yeah. Anyway, this is via Big Screen leaks on Twitter. It says, There's a reason I've been avoiding any questions about Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
Starting point is 00:42:51 since at viewer anon put it out there. It brings me no joy to back him up and tell you that the test screenings for the film have not been good. Really hoping Juan fixes this movie before December. And Jeff Snyder says, I hear it's terrible and that's why Momoa is going to be Lobo going forward.
Starting point is 00:43:05 But they can't say that yet because then it would be a lame duck and DC is hoping to bring another billion dollars out of the box office. Ring another, sorry, billion dollars out of the box office. First one was awful too, so not a huge surprise. I would say the first one is not awful. I don't love that movie. It's also the only DC movie I think that made a billion in the DC. I think that's true.
Starting point is 00:43:27 There you go. And if that's true, that's fucking wild. But also, as I said, things can be changed and test screenings aren't necessarily indicative of how audience respond and all of that. Because maybe they've got some real like deep cut Aquaman lore that people will love and relate to and whatever. It's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Maybe he's got the hook hand. Maybe he's got the hook hand. Maybe he's got the hook hand. And we got this from CanWeGetSomeToast on Twitter who says, sorry to say they removed both of the Bruce Wayans for good in Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom. Oh. Which means, so we saw, we knew Ben Affleck was going to be in it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And there was also word that Michael Keaton was as well. But that also obviously off the back of The Flash where they're resetting the universe, et cetera, et cetera, and so forth. Speaking of Batmans, here's a little scoop. A potential scoop. Okay. Well, this is from someone who I shan't be naming for security reasons. Oh.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And they've said regarding the movie The Flash and potential post-credit sequences for The Flash. Yes. So if you don't want to know. I don't. Too bad. Okay. You don't get to choose.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Okay. You're the only person I'm speaking to directly, but you don't get to choose. Everybody else could shuttle forward. It doesn't seem props. It doesn't seem cool, but I guess you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, this source has told us, he says,
Starting point is 00:44:44 hey, guys, I can confirm that George Clooney will be in the Flash movie. I worked on the additional photography for the day shooting his scene. It will most likely be a post or mid-credit scene. Of course, they could decide not to put it in entirely, but we shot it. Well, that is possible too if this is true. It wouldn't surprise me. It also wouldn't surprise me if they just leave Ezra Miller in the George Clooneyutie batman sure just
Starting point is 00:45:06 just dump them there and then move on and then recast sure what happened to the previous mr freeze or just somebody in that suit and just ices him up and then he gets put in a big fridge the fridge is locked but they put a chain on it yep it says Flash Proof Chain on it. They've made it. They put it in a Speed Force prison or something. In a Speed Force prison. Yeah, at the bottom of the ocean. The way it's played, Ezra's Flash approaches Bruce from behind and when he turns around, it's Clooney, not Keaton.
Starting point is 00:45:34 So there you go. Now, the only due diligence I've done here is I've Googled the person's name who sent this in and their IMDB results suggest, yes, they could have been in at least the building when this was happening. I love spoiling a big thing, Mason. That's great. So you're saying that this is definitely confirmed. And if anybody's reporting on this from any of the trades, just know that this is our hot scoop or shot of poop segment.
Starting point is 00:45:58 That's right. You can only report on it if you officially say, we don't care if you name the podcast. That is irrelevant. Irrelevant. You can just say some podcast has a segment called Hot Scoop or Shopping. You don't even have to link it. Yeah, we don't care. Honestly, we're not going to read most of this.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah, we're not in it for the clout. That's right. We're in it to make a website write a dumb thing. That's right. All right, Mason, got the last bit of news here. Well, I've got another bit of news. Oh, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Oh, he's really overcompensating this week, Mason. This is my actual one bit of news. Okay. And this might be surprising. The Umbrella Academy Season 4 cast adds Nick Offerman, David Cross, and more. The more is Megan Mullally, who is- So three people.
Starting point is 00:46:38 So three people, Nick Offerman's wife. That's a weird way to frame that. Right? And more. And more, it says here. Yeah. But isn't that wild for two reasons. One is the season four of Umbrella Academy.
Starting point is 00:46:49 We talked about this. Which we really like. Yeah. But it's amazing that it's still on track. It is incredible. Given that when we talk about it, people go, oh, is that show? Is that back? Is it?
Starting point is 00:46:57 Is that still? How many? Is there a second season? No, there's three. Yeah. There's three seasons. And the fact that, you know, a show like The Sandman was the number one show in the world for a few weeks running.
Starting point is 00:47:08 It even made Red Notice for a time. And they've still had to do like an online campaign begging people to watch it and tweet about it and talk about it so it gets a second season. Yeah. I wonder if like maybe it's just somebody higher up at Netflix just really loves My Chemical Romance and is like. Maybe it is. Gerard Way.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Gerard All The Way. Oh. Yeah. I like those casting. I also think it makes sense because I feel like all of those people involved with that can now do bigger things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm not saying bigger things than this,
Starting point is 00:47:41 but I'm saying if you do one season and it's going to finish at season four so they can be like, I could do this a few episodes and then move on to whatever else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there you go. Offerman and Mullally are playing a married pair of community college professors. Oh.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And David Cross is a business owner and family man desperate to reconnect with his estranged daughter. There you go. That's what you're desperate to do also, aren't you? That's exactly right. Is that right? Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I'm happy for you. Last bit of news is via Variety. Apparently The Flash will debut two months early at CinemaCon on April 25th. This is a sign that at the very least Warner Brothers thinks it's good. That is true. I think I saw this week they did that with Top Gun and whatever else. Yeah. So it's generally a good sign.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I think so, yeah. But, you know, we'll see. Nothing means anything and existence is pointless. No. Yes, Mason. Oh, no. Should we go to an ad then? Yeah, let's go to an ad.
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Starting point is 00:49:10 C-C-C-C-C-Cocaine. There. Nice. That's great. That's an A-plus intro. I had to write down the lyrics because I was, like, I know I know them, but I didn't trust myself to remember them on the spot. I understand.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Sure, sure, sure. Who wants a great joke to go awry, you know? Nobody. Yeah. And maybe, you know, you would mess it up and we'd do another take. Yeah. And only I would know, but I would know, and I'd know forever. And you'd tweet out.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I'd tweet it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd get the backup recorder going. I don't know. We do have that going. I'll do a little snip out there and show the world. Embarrassing for you. I would hate that.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I mean, you've already embarrassed yourself as much as one can because you did that caravan of garbage thing at the start of the episode. No, that's been edited out. I'm pretty confident. I didn't worry about that. All right, then. Yeah. No one will even know.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Mason, Cocaine Bear came out. It has a budget of between $30 and $35 million and a box office opening in the US at the very least of around $2.10 million. $2.10 of millions of dollars. Now, that won't beat Ant-Man 3's opening weekend, which might have the biggest drop ever of a comic book movie in its second week. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:21 It's possible. So Ant-Man, strong opening, maybe doesn't have ant legs. Maybe it does have ant legs, tiny little legs. I don't know. I think if it does have ant legs, it would support. So I think it doesn't have ant legs. But could an ant leg support the weight of a tens of millions, a hundred of millions of dollar franchise?
Starting point is 00:50:39 Yeah. How many ants though? It couldn't just be one ant leg. It'd have to be a bunch, wouldn't it? Yeah. Anyway, something to think about it. Something to think about, Mason. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:48 So this is very good for this movie, especially considering that this is like a movie that not everybody can see or what I would even say that is also not for everybody. Sure. There's a lot of people who would look at this and go, no, thank you. But I know a lot of people who have just been talking about this movie because they're like, and everyone knows it. People are like, what did you do today? And I'm like, I saw Cocaine Bear. And they're like, oh, I know a lot of people who have just been talking about this movie because they're like, and everyone knows it. Like people are like, what did you do today?
Starting point is 00:51:06 And I'm like, I saw Cocaine Bear. And they're like, oh, I know that. Because often I'll be like, I saw Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. And they'll go, what are you talking about? Oh, there was a second Ant-Man and the Wasp. And you'll be like, no, this is the third one. And they're like, huh. What?
Starting point is 00:51:20 Yeah. Does he go big? And he'd be like, yeah, he did that eight years ago actually. He became a big, big, big ant. But now he's in a little universe and then he goes big in that. And they'd be like, so normal size? And he'd be like, no, actually, still small than normal size. Anyways, this is Elizabeth Banks directed this movie
Starting point is 00:51:39 and it's based on a true story. Do you want to explain the true story? Yeah. Actually, do you want to explain the true story or do you Go on. Actually, do you want to explain the true story or do you want to tell us what the story was? I think I can do both simultaneously. Let's do it. What?
Starting point is 00:51:49 Okay. Yeah, yeah. I've been practicing my tooth and throat singing, so I can do both literally at the same time. No. Okay. So the real story, if I recall, is that a drug smuggling plane was in some sort of trouble and the drugs were dropped out of the plane and into a woods.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Into a woods. And one morning some park rangers went out and they found a dead bear next to one of the big bags of cocaine. And the assumption is that it took a bunch of cocaine and it died. Immediately. But then this movie posits, what if it didn't? Yeah. What if it went on a crazy cocaine rampage and it was a bit of fun?
Starting point is 00:52:31 It was a bit of fun. I would say this of this movie, it's fun. Yes. And I did like it, but it's not as wild and off the wall as I would have liked. It's not as manic, is it? Yeah. I think there are certainly sequences. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And scenes and moments where you're like, that's kind of, I think there are certainly sequences and scenes and moments where you're like, that's kind of what I want to be seeing here. But it doesn't kind of maintain that flow. Yeah. You know, I'm kind of, I wouldn't mind it hitting something like, I don't know, like Slither. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Have you ever seen the movie James Gunn's like. We've seen the movie Slither. You know, like weird indie kind of slug horror body snatcher thing yeah it's got this elizabeth banks also actually isn't that it's got this weird sinister grotty kind of vibe this has an interesting energy that sort of bounces all over the place yeah i would say overall the energy of this is chaotic because what we see in this movie is so the the is as previously mentioned there's a it starts with a plane going over a national park and this plane is in trouble and the guy who's smuggling the drugs turfs a bunch of cocaine
Starting point is 00:53:32 in bags out of the plane and then hits his head on the way out and instead of opening his parachute and presumably collecting the drugs on the way down or when he gets to the ground, he dies. And so there's just loose cocaine. Yeah. But also so we follow the adventures of some guys who need to get the cocaine back for their drug lord boss. It follows a couple of like a little girl and a little boy who decide
Starting point is 00:53:59 to cut school and sort of go to the woods and just run around and have a fun time. Yeah. And their mother who, the mother of one of them who wants to play by Kerry Russell who wants to go back and find them. And like some park ranger. Park ranger types. And some other people who kind of come and go.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's sort of all over the place because the mum trying to find her kids is sort of very like, feels very like Lassie come home. Yeah. Kind of like a very wholesome family thing where she's got a, you know, she loves her kid more than anything and she wants to find him and track him down. But then there's also like sort of like Fargo-esque drug smuggling
Starting point is 00:54:38 stuff going on and there's, of course, the cocaine bear. Yeah, that's going awry. Yeah, and the two park ranger types. There's the woman who is the park ranger and a sort of an inspector who's coming or like a forestry expert has come to visit and she's got a crush on him. That felt the most like a wet-hot American summer, like Elizabeth Banks is in, of course.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Like he's clearly wearing a wig. And a fake moustache and doing like these big – it felt like a Kids in the Hall sketch or something like that. So it's this weird energy, but I liked – collectively I think I liked it all, even though it sort of – it would bounce between these energies over and over again. But I think you're right in that there are some scenes in this
Starting point is 00:55:22 that are very chaotic and and violent and like in like sort of intricate and creative in the ways that you know this cocaine-fueled bear is killing people and then it sort of ends and it's like oh and then there'll be a bit of walking around i guess yeah and it's sort of like also it's interesting that like with a with a horror like with a scream style or just i don't know i don't know enough about Scream to say this. But like in a horror movie, oftentimes it's the thing that is killing everybody. A lot of the people who are being killed are deserving
Starting point is 00:55:51 of some way of being killed. This is not. They're sort of like, there are some that kind of. But do any of the people in this movie deserve to be mauled to death by a bear? I wouldn't say any of them because like they kind of set up a villain at the end to kind of get just desserts and i'm like i don't know if it's earned that it feels kind of random and it i i don't think those three
Starting point is 00:56:10 kind of narratives that that are happening to me they're not all that interesting like they're not as they're not sorry one of them i found really interesting so there's one with alden ironreich and o'shea jackson yes also it uh is in the cut with isaiah whitlock jr from the wire from the and Osher Jackson. Also, he's intercut with Isaiah Whitlock Jr. From The Wire. From The Wire. And so they're the two drug smugglers who, well, they work for a drug smuggler who's played by Ray Liotta. How long is Ray Liotta being dead for?
Starting point is 00:56:36 Like, he died at the start of last year. He's got three movies coming out after this. He did so much fucking stuff. He's great. Anyway, but I love that aspect of it. I love that story because one of them's had like a horrible like heartbreaking event happening to them and the other one kind of has to drag him through it and, you know, none of them are, they're not equipped for the woods
Starting point is 00:56:57 and then they come across this like gang of youths and that's like a fun little moment. But not the band gang of youths. No, that's a different thing. And it's the 80s, which iss, which is a fun element to this. So that I really liked. But then when all the stories kind of culminated at the end, which we'll talk about in spoilers, that to me was like,
Starting point is 00:57:15 this feels like a weird mash of like kids overcoming a thing and like, hey, don't do that, mister, and whatever. And then there's a bear who ate a bunch of fucking cocaine. And I just don't know whether that stuff comes together. The thing about if we wanted more mayhem in this, I think the problem there is if it was, you know, because the park seems to be largely abandoned. It's a work day, I guess, and everybody's at work.
Starting point is 00:57:42 So it's not like a bunch of – oh, there's campers as well. Yeah, exactly, yeah. The start of the movie starts with like a couple of – they're I think an engaged couple talking about their wedding and they're all so messed up in this. But if the camp was full, especially in America, everybody would have a gun. And a bear on cocaine is scary,
Starting point is 00:58:05 but 100 people with guns could probably take it down. I mean, they'd probably shoot each other a lot. Yes, that is also true. But, like, the idea of a bear rampaging through a crowd and, like, mauling, like, dozens of people or whatever, like, if that energy had kept up the whole time, yes, that would be cool, but I don't think logically. No, I'm not even saying you need to keep that energy had kept up the whole time, yes, that would be cool. But I don't think logically, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:58:26 No, I'm not even saying you need to keep that energy. I just think the darting between the narratives. I was like, oh, we're sitting with these people for a bit. I'm not. Not to be interested in these kids and whatever. And that's not to say like the performances are bad, you know, the kids and whatever. It's all fine.
Starting point is 00:58:43 But, yeah, but I just the fun stuff to me was like the low key kind of gangster stuff. Sure, yeah. Just guys trudging through the forest looking for cocaine somehow. I mean, but maybe that's, you know, maybe for a lot of people, maybe it's just like, oh, I like these characters. Yeah. I like these characters and they tided me over until a bear, you know, leapt into an ambulance and tore some people's limbs off or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Okay, so speaking of great sequences. Yes. That whole sequence was incredible. So it's basically two ambulance officers show up because they get a call. Two ambulance cops. Two hospital cops. And they say, you're all under arrest. We're hospital cops.
Starting point is 00:59:17 That's right. And then they don't know what they're walking into. They're like, oh, this is a weird scenario. And then the bear's there and whatever, and the bear ends up chasing down the ambulance. And it's just this gory, like, this is a weird scenario. And then the bear's there and whatever, and the bear ends up like chasing down the ambulance. And it's just this gory like – and it's a nightmare. It's like one of those Rube Goldberg machines of death. It's one of those.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Yeah, and it's really kind of well-paced and the gore is good and it's funny, like in these funny little moments. That hospital guy, you see the guy who appears on Twitter every once in a while and he has those videos about like retail employees and everything. He's got a lot of sassy clapbacks. He did one for Cocaine Bear where he's like, what do you have to know going into Cocaine Bear? And he's like, nothing.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Right. You know, you only need to know the words cocaine and bear. There's no post-credits Infinity War or whatever. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, I like it. Unless he's cancelled, in which case I take it back. You never liked him? Yeah, I never liked him.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Okay, great. I always do. Yeah, it was cool to see him in this. But I also think the bear itself as a CGI model looked fantastic because it's obviously digital because it would have to be. But there are a few moments in this where it's interacting with the environment where it might be like running breakneck pace or it's lying on the ground. And the shadows of it, like the actual environmental interaction, I feel is not as great as the model is.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Right. Would you agree with that? Like there's a moment where it squashes a person and it feels very kind of. Look, on the one hand, if you do have one major thing that is the core effect of your entire movie yeah it should probably be pretty good but that in itself what i'm saying is the bear looks good but it's the interaction that i didn't really yeah that's fine then that's fine then isn't it mason fine yeah spoilers uh let me think what else yes how do you feel about the idea not spoilers yet how do you feel about the idea of like trying to manufacture like a memeable movie?
Starting point is 01:01:06 Do you think that's what the intent was? Like a snake's on a plane, for example. Yeah, I mean. Was it like that? Or even an attempt like, you know how like when you're a kid, maybe you'd go to the video shop and there'd be a bunch of VHSs of weird B movies, like grizzly murder movies. Like the bug men.
Starting point is 01:01:21 What have you. The bug men murder us. Do you feel this was an attempt to build one of those but sort of inorganically? I don't know. I mean, I think if it was, I think the marketing for this and word of mouth is like it got it. It worked and it got through.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Yeah. I mean, I saw it with a small crowd like on a Friday afternoon. Yeah. Just of regular people. Yeah. And they seemed to be really big. Yeah, same. People seemed to be enjoying it.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And although one, there was a couple directly in front of me and one of them left and then the ambulance scene happened. And then he came back just as it was winding up. And so he just came back to just. Just miss that whole moment. Just a real chain of destruction. That was a good bit. Yeah. But I think general audiences are going to dig this.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah, I think it's going to do very well, especially considering its budget. I'm going to say best movie ever. I had a fun time with the movies. I really like Alden Ironreich, and I want to see him in more things. Right? Yeah, I think he's really talented. Does he have more upcoming movies than Ray Liotta at this point?
Starting point is 01:02:23 Oh, maybe. That's a great question. I know every time he's in an interview he's like, do you want to be Han Solo? He's like, yeah, if they let me. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Let's have a look. I thought he was a good Han Solo. Yeah. He was really good in Hail Caesar. I liked Hail Caesar. Yeah, I was just thinking that. Yeah. Very good.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yeah, yeah. Bloody God, good as filmography, Mason. He's got a vulnerability about him. Certainly does. Which worked in this, I think, but it's trickier if you're playing Hansol and you have to be like Mr. Bravado all the time. That's true. So he's in Fair Play, which is a 2023 erotic thriller.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Oh, that sounds erotic. He's, of course, in the new Ironheart series. He's playing somebody. Probably Ironheart. Yeah. And he's in Oppenheimer. He's in Oppenheimer. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:04 So I think less some like maybe equal to or slightly less than Ray Liotta who filmed a hundred movies a day yeah that's true
Starting point is 01:03:12 yeah and good for him I say I think spoilers what have we got in spoilers so at the end they all converge on a waterfall
Starting point is 01:03:19 yes so the kids are there and there's baby bears doing cocaine yep and the cocaine bear is there and Ray Liot bears doing cocaine. Yep. And the cocaine bear is there. This cocaine's too hot. This cocaine's too cold.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I don't know why that little girl would hide in a bear cave. It's the worst place that you would hide. You wouldn't hide there because the big bear would come back. And the bear didn't eat her just because. But whatever, it's a cocaine bear, I guess. Who knows why it does anything. Right, that's exactly right. The perfect antagonist for a movie.
Starting point is 01:03:42 I did like the bit where the bear just did a line of cocaine. Sure. Like often it would eat it, but there was just a moment where it just for a movie. I did like the bit where the bear just did a line of cocaine. Sure. Like often it would eat it, but there was just a moment where it just did a line. I don't know if you noticed that, but it did. Yeah, but it's crucially towards the end. We get the mum and the two kids and we get the gangsters and whatever. The gangsters are there and Ray Liotta's shown up to take care of business
Starting point is 01:04:03 because his boys weren't capable of sorting it out. And then at that point he's just like, I'm going to get all the cocaine. I'm a bad guy. I'll shoot everybody. And then the bear is turned upon him and he dies and everybody else gets away. Yeah, and it's like, yay. But it's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Right, yeah, yeah. Because he was looking after old and iron rags kid because he was in a, like a bit of a stupor. Yeah, he wasn't the worst guy in the world. No, he wasn't. He was just like a guy. You know, for a cocaine. Yeah, but he was also like a lot, he was like a lower level kind of,
Starting point is 01:04:37 not even low level, that's probably not true, but like he was just a drugs guy, right? Yes. And I don't think he was really any worse than most of the other people. But they had to give him the turn at the end because they needed somebody to defeat at the end. What if they all got away? But just like the little kids, like, get away from me, mister,
Starting point is 01:04:52 and whatever, and I just felt a bit like, what is this now? Yeah, because he had to kick the – did he kick any of the cubs? Yeah, he kicked some of the cubs that he was going to shoot. I can't remember. Yeah, it seemed odd. That was the oddest turn. Yeah. I really liked that moment where the –
Starting point is 01:05:03 He should have been at the end. They should have all made it out of the waterfall and should have been like, I'm not being a drug lord anymore. I'm going to be a regular lord. That's right. I'm going to be a babysitting lord. I'm going to be Lord, the singer. Oh.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Yeah. That's right. It was a Lord biopic. It was a surprise Lord biopic. I moved to New Zealand. There's a moment where there's O'Shea Jackson. Her album's called Pure Heroin. Is it?
Starting point is 01:05:25 The first one. I guess if you're going to do heroin, is it better to do Pure Heroin than Laced With Something? Maybe. Or is that bad? I don't know. I don't know either. Something to think about.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Something to think about, right? No, don't do heroin, Mason. God. Not on the podcast. Wow. Make amends with your estranged daughter. Don't do heroin. God Not on the podcast Wow But uh There's a moment Make amends with your With your estranged daughter
Starting point is 01:05:48 Don't do heroin Wow This guy Dolling out the Sorry dad Yeah God There's a moment where O'Shea Jackson is fighting
Starting point is 01:05:56 Like a Well they're They're supposed to be teenagers But they look older Like in a bathroom Uh huh Which I liked that And then there's a moment where
Starting point is 01:06:04 So one of them Who's named Aaron Holiday, the actor, like comes along with him for a bit and he gets a little post credits. And I really liked him. He gave me like that, you know, Simon from the in-between, this kind of vibe, he had that kind of look as well. I thought he was a fun character. Here's some stuff that I feel like felt like they were setting up
Starting point is 01:06:21 but they didn't pay off at any point. O'Shea Jackson? Yeah. He's Ice Cube's son. Oh, yeah, he is too. Because he looks exactly like Ice Cube. So after he fights those kids in the bathroom, it looks like he's going to have a heart attack, but he just doesn't.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I think he's just tired because he fought three dudes. Yeah, I guess, but I thought that was going to pay off as like a – You wanted him to have a heart attack? The second thing that I thought maybe should have been – I thought they were maybe building as a through line, which may have led to more mayhem, is the idea that everybody at a certain point gets exposed to cocaine and everybody's high on coke the entire time.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Yeah. Because some of the movie feels like they're going to do that. Like some kids eat some cocaine at one point. Yeah, or there's a point where, like, the park ranger shoots one of those kids in the head because she's aiming for the bear, and it would make more sense if she was on coke as well. Yeah, okay. Like I thought it was going to lead to more like more just frantic
Starting point is 01:07:09 bad decision making. Because of just like the cocaine madness. Because of the cocaine madness, which I assume you get, yes. Yeah, maybe. Again, yeah, I think there's things that, yeah, that didn't have that kind of like weird vibe that I was maybe hoping to have the entire time. I wonder if maybe they'd gone, okay, well, maybe if they'd gone, okay,
Starting point is 01:07:28 Kerry Russell's character was divorced from Alden Ehrenreich or something like that. Like what if you tied them all together in a more convenient way kind of thing? Yeah. And then maybe Alden Ehrenreich and Kerry Russell like bond. He's like, I'm not going to be a drug lord anymore. And she's like, well, good.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Good. Good, actually. Didn't your'm not going to be a drug lord anymore. And she's like, well, good. Good. Good, actually. Didn't your wife die? No, this is a Mason. You're my wife. Mason has rewritten the story. That's right. Well, the better, I think.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Now, do you. So if you're watching and they ever give the thumbs up and in 99.99% of cinemas, I wouldn't be there. But in one, I'd be there. You absolutely would be there. It'd be perfect bit of synchronicity I think now if this has the legs
Starting point is 01:08:07 and the streaming life that it there's a very good chance that it will do you think there's a chance that they do a a cocaine bear too because a lot of the
Starting point is 01:08:14 I feel like some of the marketing at least was based on like this really happened that's true and none of this really happened except for that initial thing the asylum the asylum is doing
Starting point is 01:08:22 meth gator yeah well that was my question what are what other animals or drugs could they combine? And this is what I came up with. This is the one that I landed on. Okay. Elka Seltzer iguana. That's very good.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Just a very fizzy iguana. Exactly. It'll be one of those, you know, a movie like The Wrong Man or whatever where a guy thinks he's being pursued by the mob but he's just not. Just a bunch of people who think they're about to be attacked by a rabbit iguana but it's just a fizzy iguana. And they run into traffic or whatever where a guy thinks he's being pursued by the mob but he's just not yeah just a bunch of people who think they're about to be attacked by a rabbit iguana but it's just a fizzy iguana and they run into traffic or whatever yeah it's just okay that's pretty good yeah there you go that's that was my that was what i landed on okay uh endonechidna oh yeah that's okay that's a fun painkiller yep streps strepsils weasel oh strepsils weasel, yeah, absolutely. Mine are like store-bought medications that aren't maybe not even medications.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Marijuana molesk. Just a snail who's even slower because he's on the marijuana. That snail smoked so much marijuana. The snail smoked it. Didn't even climb over the leaf. Smoked a big doobie. That's right, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I don't know, a rat that's Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. A rat that's addicted to cigarettes. I don't know. Aspirin seagull. Doesn't that kill them? Yep. Does it really though? I don't know, mate.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Probably. Yeah. I would guess so, yeah. Great stuff. But yeah, look, it's, I liked it. I did like it. I liked it too, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:41 And it's, you know, if you're like, oh, I wouldn't say run out to see it because it will probably be on streaming in a month. Sure, yeah. You'll probably wait. But at the same time. If you've got a minute. If you've got. Supports local cinema.
Starting point is 01:09:53 It's also 90 minutes or whatever it is. So that's the perfect length of this sort of movie. Yeah, it never drags. Yeah. That's what I like. Yeah, like if, I would say if you want to see more, if you like the idea of this and you like the idea of a movie that isn't a huge franchise thing and you just want to see another one, maybe do see it.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Do you want to see a cocaine bear? Do you want to see a cocaine bear, for example? Great name also. Just perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Panadol Penguin. I've got a bit of a headache. It's not even Panadol Rapid.
Starting point is 01:10:22 No, it's a supermarket brand Panadol. It's a supermarket brand Paracetamol is what it is. Great stuff. Caffeine Koala. Oh, yeah. Well, that would have to have peppered up a little bit maybe. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Great stuff. Some people said that is that true about the chlamydia koala thing. Apparently. Yeah. It's not like all of them, but it's pretty rampant in the koala community. Also, there's a bunch fewer than there used to be because they all died in that fire. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Like a million died. Thank God. Yeah. Yeah. Whose fault was that? Not ours. No, thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Thank you for saying that. Just on the record, we weren't responsible for the historic 2019 Australian bushfires. We didn't do it. No, that certainly wasn't us. It was government funding. It was the Liberal government mostly, yeah, just if people were wondering. All right, let's move on.
Starting point is 01:11:11 People are going to be like, Liberal? Like the left? No. Read a book. Do you know what it's time for? It's time for what we read and what we're going to read. Yo! Yo, Mason!
Starting point is 01:11:21 Yo! I'm doing the thing. Yo, Mason. Yo. I'm doing the thing. Mason, what have you been reading? I've been reading. In fact, it's right here.
Starting point is 01:11:35 It's a paper copy. I was recommended, I think maybe last week, a lot of people recommended a comic book called Ultramega, written, created, illustrated by James Harron, coloured by Dave Stewart, and it is what if Ultraman, but real violent and gross is basically what it is. So thus far it's four issues. It's been collected in this trade paperback.
Starting point is 01:11:58 There is apparently more on the way. Okay. I checked his Twitter. Does that feel complete when you read it? No, this is absolutely like it's four issues, but it's like the first chapter. Yeah. Like, I had a good reading experience, but it's like it ends on a cliffhanger. And you're like, ooh, what's gonna happen
Starting point is 01:12:12 next? But basically, the premise, so how it begins is there's some sort of cosmic virus that's landed on Earth, and it's spreaded to people, and people start to turn into like kaiju monsters, big and small. Sick. But luckily three people have received this weird vision from some cosmic being to be like, do you want to fight?
Starting point is 01:12:32 Do you want to fight for the future of humanity? And they're like, all right. I'll do it. And then they turn into sort of Ultraman style heroes. Gross. Yeah, exactly. But some stuff goes awry and the world turns into a horrible, horrible place filled with horrible stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:49 And it sort of spans, you know, a couple of generations of people. Oh, really? Okay. It's very, I like it a lot. It's some cosmic horror. It's like, again, it is like Ultraman. It's a little bit like Power Rangers, but it's sort of a little bit Pacific Rim. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:04 It sort of like leans more towards the cosmic horror and like. Oh, that sounds. So did you have an overall enjoying experience? I had an overall enjoying experience, I think. Now, we're probably going to cover that on our next comic book club. That's right. Because you're going to lend that to me, aren't you? I am.
Starting point is 01:13:20 And you said I'm allowed to tear it up afterwards. No, I didn't say that. I said keep it pristine. It was the implication. I'm going to take a photo afterwards. No, I didn't say that. I said keep it pristine. It was the implication. I'm going to take a photo of the spine, and if I get it back and it's got even one little bend in it, I'm charging you for it. Okay. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:13:33 I'm still going to tear it up. Okay, good. But this week, if you are interested in Comic Boo Club, we've actually done the Last of Us comic. The one Last of Us comic that they did, that's now live at BigSandwich.co, thanks to Rob Collings. Yeah, written by Neil Druckmann. Neil Druckmann, yeah. Creator of The Last of Us comic that they did, that's now live at BigSandwich.co, thanks to Rob Collings who put that together. Written by Neil Druckmann.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Neil Druckmann, yeah. Creator of The Last of Us. That's right. And it also coincides with, it should at least, this latest episode, which is coming out, which will be out by the time a lot of people hear this. So, yeah, if you aren't interested, you can say on Patreon or whatever. Mason, I watched the first episode of Season 3 of Party Down because Party Down is back.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Is it? Yes. If you don't know, Party Down was like a, you tell me about this, it was like a 2010s-ish series where it's a bunch of, like, failed actors who work for a catering company and they hate their jobs and the entertainment industry and they're looking to break out or some of them have given up on doing so. Exactly, yeah. And then it was cancelled yeah and adam seasons yeah and adam scott was uh partially to blame it seemed because he went to do um parks and rec but apparently they
Starting point is 01:14:34 were going to cancel it anyway and someone the executives told him before and they're like they're going to cancel this just right so he recently said that unless he's lying and he's lying he's a big liar most of the original car original cast think, except for Lizzie Kaplan, is back. Yes. And it's 10 years on and everything is worse. All the same. Okay, great. And it's just, if you haven't seen it, you can absolutely watch the first two seasons
Starting point is 01:14:55 because I think it still holds up. I think it does, yeah. From memory. I haven't seen it in a long time. But it's really good and really funny. Yeah, so it was created by Rob Thomas, not of- Matchbox 20's Rob Thomas. No, the smooth Rob Thomas.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Santana. They're different guys. They're twin brothers with the same name. No, Rob Thomas created Veronica Mars. Okay. And so it shares some actors and, you know, and you see characters in supporting roles. So Kristen Bell, who was Veronica Mars, is in a few episodes.
Starting point is 01:15:23 As herself or- No, as the head of a rival catering company. Oh, that's right. I remember that now, yeah. Val Haller Catering. I'm just looking at this cast and seeing what name. Oh, Ryan Hansen is in it. Yeah, so it's a great cast from that era.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Speaking of Wet Hot American Summer and that kind of era, just a bunch of those guys. So Adam Scott, Ken Marino, Marlon Star is in it, Jane Lynch, Megan Mullally. Yeah. And who was in The White Lotus? Jane Lynch is. Yeah. And who was in The White Lotus? Jane Lynch is so fucking funny. Who was in The White Lotus?
Starting point is 01:15:49 Jennifer Coolidge. Adam Scott. Jennifer Coolidge. She's in the second season. She is, yeah. But she's not in this, or at least yet. I see. I don't know whether she's going to.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Didn't she replace somebody in like the second season? She replaced. No, wait. Or was she always in it? No, somebody replaced her. Megan Mullally. Megan Mullally or Jennifer Coolidge replaced each other, one or the other. And Jennifer Coolidge was also there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wait. Or was she always in it? No, somebody replaced her. Megan Mullally, maybe? Megan Mullally or Jennifer Coolidge replaced one or the other. And Jennifer Coolidge was also there.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's a great, it's very funny. Yeah, each week they go to a different catering. Each week they go to a catering event. And sometimes they hang out with real celebrities. Yeah, yeah. And sometimes it's people, celebrities playing. Do they explain, without spoiling, do they explain Lizzie Kaplan's?
Starting point is 01:16:28 Yes. Okay, right, right, right. They say Lizzie Kaplan is actually, she was pretending to be a caterer for the show Party Down. Oh, but she's a real-life actor. Right, there you go. That'll do. Wow, wow.
Starting point is 01:16:37 I hope she appears at some point. But they're only dropping an episode a week, which to me is like, what's happening? Excuse me? Maybe they're only making an episode a week. which to me is like, what's happening? Excuse me. Maybe they're only making an episode a week. Yeah, maybe they are. And it also talks about, like, the state of cinema now and, like, now everything's a Marvel movie and comic book movie or whatever.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Oh, a bit of commentary. Yeah, and I was like, whoa, that's now, I said. Wow. And Ken Marino, they're all good. I can literally just point to any of them and go, isn't that person really funny? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I'm glad it's back and it's well worth it.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Not a bad egg in the bunch as far as I'm concerned. It's on Stan, I think. It is on Stan, yeah. What else? I watched a couple of episodes of the 1973 magic-based TV series The Magician starring Bill Bixby. What's happening, Mason? Don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:23 It's just I got served an algorithm. The YouTube algorithm served me a video essay about the 1973 magician-based TV series The Magician starring Bill Bixby. It's all right. It's pretty good. Is he a real magician or is he like a – He's a stage magician. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:37 But apparently Bill Bixby was also a stage. Was he? He was a huge fan of close-up magic and stage magic, so he insisted that all the magic in the show, like he would do it for real. So it's not like crap where they edit and it's like a dumb thing. No, exactly, yeah. He's doing all the stuff for real.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Oh, I like Bill Bixby. Yeah, he's a world-renowned stage magician who also solves mysteries and fights injustice, and he lives in a plane. He lives in a private plane and he drives around in like a white. Oh, not like a plane crashed in the woods. No, no, no. It's like a private plane.
Starting point is 01:18:10 So he's a successful magician. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Okay. But what I liked about it. This sounds like something Rian Johnson would make now. It is very much. I mean, maybe that's why the algorithm picked it up.
Starting point is 01:18:19 I don't know. But also interesting. It's like just the 1970s fashions. But not like crazy. Well, if you look at like the actual eras, most people are just wearing normal clothes. Yeah. This was like what does a rich guy in the 70s look like when he's not a cartoon character or whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:37 He's got a big afro and a disco collar. No. And goldfish in his huge stilettos. He did have goldfish in his huge stilettos, yeah. It was probably part of the magic show, though, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a bit of fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Okay. That's great. That's about it, I think. Never heard of that. No, exactly. And I think it got cancelled and then he was like, but I better be the Hulk then. I better be.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Or at least be the guy who turns into the Hulk. Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Is it time for the letters then? Maybe. Did I watch anything else? I did, but I'm saving it for my other podcast. Oh, yeah. Okay, right. Would you say it's a better thing? A better Did I watch anything else? I did, but I'm saving it for my other podcast. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Okay, right. Would you say it's a better thing? A better thing than Party Down? Party Down, yeah. Well, I'd have to say to Claire that I watched one episode of Party Down. Oh, that's true. She'd be like, what? And I'd have to explain it. I don't want to explain anything to anybody.
Starting point is 01:19:18 But, you know. Not even once. And if you've got a whole show that's about recommending things. Yeah. Well, you've got to read the Wikipedia page for a book and say you read the book. Exactly. You get it.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I get it. That's right. You're a podcaster. You get it. Yeah, I get things. All right, well, I think it's time for letters then, so I'll play the theme to letters. I agree.
Starting point is 01:19:35 The classic one was letters. You nailed it this week. Thanks, man. You're back on form. We love you. Some letters. Some say I never let it go. I'm saying you did.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Oh. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Will other people say I haven't? Who? I'm saying you did. Oh. I know they're here right now. We're going to do that. Will other people say I haven't? Who? People. You don't know them. I know other people from not here.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I don't believe you. You know my family and my dogs and that's it as far as I know. Yeah. Oh, boy. Mason. Yes. If you do want to reach the show, why wouldn't you? That's right.
Starting point is 01:20:02 You can actually hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's right. And you cut through the spam and the dreck. That's right, sometimes. And you elbow your way to the front. Sometimes it's all spam and dreck, but not this week. Yes. Here's an email from Justin.
Starting point is 01:20:17 The real cocaine bear is in my hometown. Hey, James and May, so I've been a long-time fan and wanted to tell you all that the real life cocaine bear that inspired the movie is stuffed and displayed in my hometown in Kentucky. For the opening weekend they took the bear to the Kentucky theatre for the opening weekend of the movie. I attached a picture and they even put fake cocaine around its nose.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Now that's fun. I've been a fan of the show since my senior year of high school. I've listened all the way through college. I'm now in law school and have to lie when people ask what I'm listening to before class. You say law documents. That's right. That I've narrated. That's right. That I'm now in law school and have to lie when people ask what I'm listening to before class. You say law documents. That's right. That I've narrated. That I'm listening back to.
Starting point is 01:20:48 I'm listening to episodes of Matlock. Imagine explaining this to a normal person. That's right. Thanks for the great show and I look forward to lying to my eventual co-attorneys about what I'm listening to. And here's the bear. And I've got to tell you, I've nailed the look of the bear in the movie. Cocaine bear. Well, it's a bear, isn't it? It's a bear. Yeah. It's, you know. That poor bear. the bear. And I've got to tell you, I've nailed the look of the bear in the movie, Cocaine Bear.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Well, it's a bear, isn't it? It's a bear. Yeah. It's, you know. That poor bear. Poor bear. He's got a little K hat on. I'm assuming for the ketamine they used to calm him down.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Oh, okay. Ketamine koala. I know he did koala earlier. No, ketamine koala's good. Yeah. Ketamine kangaroo. Yeah, that's even better. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Because he'd be trying to box you, but he'd be all like, whoa. Imagine how high I could jump. Imagine how high I would be when I did bloody better. Yeah, yeah. Because he'd be trying to box you, but it'd be all like, whoa. Imagine how high I could jump. Imagine how high I would be when I did bloody jump. Oh, mate. For some reason, when he's like at the start, and I knew this wasn't true, that the cocaine bear is in my town, I'd imagine it's like a party boy reliving its past glories. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Oh, it's the cocaine bear. Sure you were, buddy. And everyone initially is like, great. And then it's like, this bear's really annoying. I met Ray Liotta and he was cool. It's the Warwick Kappa of bears. The cocaine bear has a little... That's too specific, I know.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Yeah, yeah. The cocaine bear has a little sign around his neck. It says cocaine bear, a.k.a. Pablo Escobar. Here sits cocaine bear. In 1985, cocaine bear was found dead in the Chattahoochee National Forest. He overdosed on 40 kilos for cocaine, dropped by Andrew Thornton. You might remember Andrew from the Bluegrass Conspiracy. I don't.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I don't know. And then there's a little note. I think it's editorial. It says, don't do drugs or you'll end up dead, brackets, and maybe stuffed like poor Cocaine Bear. Look, you could die, but I don't think you're going to end up stuffed. That's true. That's pretty unlikely. I'm going to end up stuffed. That's true, yeah. That's pretty unlikely.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I'm going to look up the bluegrass conspiracy and see what it is. While you're doing that, I'll read this from BensonMade on Twitter. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Caught up on a lot of cinema this week. Plain Ant-Man, Coke Bear. But the review I wanted to hear about from you is Puss in Boots. The story is good. The comedy fits.
Starting point is 01:22:42 John Mulaney is hilarious. Thoughts? Mason, specifically. Haven't seen it yet. It's terrific. The story is good. The comedy fits. John Mulaney is hilarious. Thoughts? Mason, specifically. Haven't seen it yet. It's terrific. I've got it. It's probably one of the best, if not the best movie in the Shrek franchise. It's really terrific.
Starting point is 01:22:52 They changed up the animation style so it's a bit more like dynamic and less kind of realistic. It's got some wonderful little songs in it. Antonio Banderas is terrific. John Mulaney is mentioned. The voice cast, all in all, is really fun. The new characters are good. The action is great.
Starting point is 01:23:07 It's also about anxiety and panic attacks. The action sequence is good. The villain is really terrifying also. It's like a kid's villain. It's like, this is a bit spooky. I took my two-year-old daughter, probably shouldn't have, but it was in the holidays. To Cocaine Bear?
Starting point is 01:23:20 I took her to Cocaine Bear and I said, this could be you. Don't do drugs. I know you don't know what drugs are yet. I went to drop her at Bear and I said, this could be you. Don't do drugs. I know you don't know what drugs are yet. I went to drop her at daycare, but the daycare was closed. I go for whatever reason. I didn't get the email. I don't check emails. And then my son was with me and we were going to see Puss in Boots
Starting point is 01:23:36 and I'm like, okay, I guess we're all going to see Puss in Boots now, aren't we? Because I'm not doing another. I'm not planning a different thing. And so, yeah, it's wonderful. It's on streaming now, Mason. So insulin cinemas, if you do want to see it. Do you like the Shrek movies?
Starting point is 01:23:47 Some of them. Then you'll like this. Should I watch The Bad Guys? That's on streaming as well. That is good. Okay, I'll watch The Bad Guys. I like The Bad Guys. Okay, The Bluegrass Conspiracy, James.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Yeah. When Kentucky Blueblood, Drew Thornton, that's the guy in the plane, parachuted to his death in September 1985, carrying thousands in cash and 150 pounds of cocaine, the gruesome end of his startling life blew open a scandal that reached the most secret circles of the US government, dot, dot, dot, click to read further. But I won't. But you won't?
Starting point is 01:24:13 No, I probably won't. Because the government and something, drug trafficking, et cetera? Yeah, but maybe that's the sequel. Maybe that's, but I mean, the thing about that is. There's no cocaine bear. There's no cocaine bear, exactly, yeah. So you'd have to add in like a secret government conspiracy to like cocaine all the bears.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Yeah. You know? Second cocaine bear. There was a second cocaine bear the whole time. It was behind the grassy knoll. He's in this truck. He's in a truck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Are you ready to read another email then? Not quite, but one day I will be. Would you like me to read one? Yeah. This is from Wouldn't You Like to Know on Twitter, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Scammers are back in your comments. While I got you, can I be the official scammer pointer
Starting point is 01:24:52 out of the podcast? Fine and close this tweet. $10,000 redos to help seal the deal. It's not there. If it's not there, it means Twitter lost it. It would. Twitter's very unreliable at the moment and in general. So, yeah, people might have seen this, and it's most YouTube channels
Starting point is 01:25:06 where there's a lot of comments that sort of look like me that are very clearly not. It's like my avatar and it's Mr. Sunday Movies and a bunch of numbers or letters. I'm giving away PlayStation 5s. It's like I'm giving away things. Oh, that's great. Why don't you message me and I'll give you a million dollars or whatever.
Starting point is 01:25:19 That is, I mean, it's just I can't stop it. When I see it, I block it or report it. But it's just. I'd have to literally sit there I can't stop it. When I see it, I block it or report it. But it's just – It's an – I'd have to literally sit there all day and do it. It's every channel as well. Yeah, it's every channel. So if you do see those, it is literally never me.
Starting point is 01:25:34 But maybe one day it will be. But if I'm doing a giveaway, no, I would let you know and I wouldn't do it like that. You wouldn't do any giveaways like that and you wouldn't want to interact with anyone. Those are two true and real things. The only time you interact with people is when they say something stupid in the comments and you wouldn't want to interact with anyone. Those are two true and real things. The only time you interact with people is when they say something stupid in the comments
Starting point is 01:25:48 and you wreck them. And then I mute it so I never have to hear a response from them. That's right. Here's an email from Nick. Nick! Nick, you're sending emails in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're Nick Mason. Yeah, different guy. Hi guys, long time listener, first time letterer. Love the show. Me and my wife Tilly
Starting point is 01:26:03 love listening weekly and the show always helps us on our long road trips where you going doesn't say oh it's not you is it no okay sorry go on currently driving from newcastle to tasmania on a baby moon wait a minute baby names any thoughts well first of all you'd have to catch the ferry from victoria to tasmania so you're not doing the drive are you unless you're doing laps of the boat are you? Unless you're doing laps of the boat in your car. Maybe they're doing laps of the boat. That's understandable. And if you are, we're happy to be your soundtrack to that. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:30 So baby names. I say don't. Don't have a baby? No, don't have a baby name. Leave it blank. Interesting. He could be one of those mysterious people with no name. Now, we don't know the gender of this baby,
Starting point is 01:26:41 so I recommend Charcoal Chicken because that could be anything. That's great, actually. Yeah. And they could shorten it to charlie which is good for a boy or a girl charlie chicken charlie chicken that's right that's great you put i was going to suggest some other stuff but i think you've you've nailed that haven't i works for any gender yep it's delicious their middle name's chicken which is funny no first name oh charlie chicken charcoal chicken oh okay is it hyphenated yeah whatever yeah okay right yeah that's good Funny. No, first name. Oh, Charlie Chicken. Charcoal Chicken. Oh, okay. Is it hyphenated? Yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Okay, right. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Any other names? I mean, what name is better than Charcoal Chicken? Do you think there should be new names? People should be, because whenever you see, hear a new name, it's like unusual.
Starting point is 01:27:20 It's startling at first. That's right. But then it becomes part of the public whatever's. But I think there should be some new names. Let's get some new names. Too many Jameses. Great. Let's giveling at first. That's right. But then it becomes part of the public whatever's. But I think there should be some new names. Let's get some new names. Too many Jameses. Great. Let's give it a rest.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Yeah. Yeah. Do you think my name, like in your name, in the future will be like, there'll be old guy names? Yeah, like Caracatus Potts or whatever. Yeah. Someone whose name is like Gunther or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Absolutely. Yeah. Or Dirk Henderson or something. There'll be names like Gunther or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Or Dirk Henderson or something. There'll be names like Space James. Yes. You know? Yeah. NFT James. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Oh, there's an opportunity. Yeah. NFT James? Yeah. If you see my YouTube comment from NFT James, that one is me giving away NFTs for money. Anyway, we're glad to have provided your child a name, Charcoal Chicken. Or Charlie Chicken. Or Charlie Chicken.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Charlie Chicken. Yeah, yeah. Anything else? Because that's my tweets. Ooh, let's find out. Let's find out. I'm going to have to find another one. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:17 This is from Maddie. Oh. She says, best or worst director's cut. Hey, guys, my boyfriend Drew and I have been a big fan of your YouTube page for years. I've recently started to listen to your podcast on my long commutes to work. That's cut. Hey guys, my boyfriend Drew and I have been a big fan of your YouTube page for years. I've recently started to listen to your podcast on my long commutes to work. And I've gone all the way back to your 2020 episode about the best and worst director's cuts.
Starting point is 01:28:32 And to chime in about one of the most upsetting director's cuts I've ever seen is Cinema Paradiso. This film was introduced to me through my favourite professor in college when I took an Italian cinema course. I fell in love with this film and she gifted me her copy. She's one of the reasons I decided to become a teacher myself, but that's unimportant.
Starting point is 01:28:49 I wanted to know if you've seen this cult classic or the director's cut. If not, you've got to watch it. Don't know anything about this. Don't know anything about it. Are there any specifics? No, it doesn't say. Have we seen a recent director's cut that we – David Ayer is still banging on about the Suicide Squad Ayer cut as of this week.
Starting point is 01:29:07 I mean, look, man, he made a movie and they ruined it or something. So I understand that. But maybe he knows James Gunn and maybe he'll get his – I don't think they want to be doing it. He'll get his revenge. I don't think they want to be releasing any cuts of anything recently. You know? I don't think they – they're doing a new thing.
Starting point is 01:29:23 No, exactly. Yeah, they don't want to be like, they don't want people going, I want to see the cinema. Remember this other Suicide Squad movie? Oh, it's Aquaman. It's Aquaman director's cut. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Yeah, so. No, I don't know that. I'm going to look up cinema. 1988's Cinema Paradiso. Well, I recently watched E.T., which I'll probably talk about unsuggestionably. Oh, and is that, did you watch the edited version? I didn't watch the edited, but I watched it because there was a
Starting point is 01:29:43 longer version with more scenes, and I watched that one. E.T.'s fucking incredible, by the way. It's just a really good movie. Would you kick E.T. or not? Yeah. Yeah. But I would. Would you watch that E.T. sequel where E.T. goes back to his home planet
Starting point is 01:29:56 and there's a bunch of E.T.'s? It's a book, but not a... Yeah, it's a book. There's that and there's also Spielberg was going to make one and it had evil E.T.'s in it. Yeah. And there's also like a Verizon commercial from like three years ago where ET comes back and he's like Elliot, I'm back.
Starting point is 01:30:07 I've got NFTs. ET NFTs. Now is probably the best time for you to get in. These are only going to increase in value. Would you watch a movie version of that 101 Dalmatians sequel where they can all talk and they've got magic powers? Yes. But no.
Starting point is 01:30:25 But also what I think is interesting about that, I think E.T., it's so of its era and it's so real. That's why they need NFTs to add to it, to modernise it. But it's so, like the locations that were shot and just the, I don't know, I know we talk about it. They pick up a mug. Like people in a room. People in a room. And the house is just so real and just the, I don't know. I know we talked about it. They pick up a mug. Like people in a room. People in a room.
Starting point is 01:30:46 And the house is just so real and everything just feels so tactile. That's why I liked the first Ghostbusters because it's so gross. Yeah, it's a shame that the rest of the Ghostbusters is utter dog shit. And so Spielberg was going to make a sequel in the 80s and I'm glad he didn't because, like, I watched it as a kid and I liked it enough. But seeing it again recently, it's fucking incredible. It's such a fucking good
Starting point is 01:31:08 movie. Would you say it's a love letter to cinema? No, it's just a pretty good movie. It's just a good movie, right? Exactly. It makes me want to watch The Fablemans. There you go. We'll see the movie Cinema Paradiso. Yeah. Salvatore, a famous film director, returns to his hometown for the funeral of the local theatre's film projectionist
Starting point is 01:31:24 Alfredo. He reminisces about his life as a young boy falling in love with cinema. He's so Italian. Sounds like a love letter. I'm going to Google movies that are a love letter to cinema. You're going to get that one, that Scorsese one set in a train station or whatever. You go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:38 No. No? I'll never watch that. I watched it. Scorsese knows what he did. He alluded to being involved in Joker somehow, and he wasn't, and I'll forever hate him for that. You know what's interesting?
Starting point is 01:31:53 La La Land, there you go. Ed Wood, Be Kind Rewind, Hail Caesar, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Artist. I feel like, and I do generally like movies like this, but there is a part of me when they're- Oh, you're just talked about Hail Caesar. Yeah, exactly. That's good.
Starting point is 01:32:07 There is a part of me when I see, like Babylon, for example, which I haven't seen, which apparently might be okay in some of it. But there is a big part of me where they're like, remember the golden age of Hollywood? And look at all the glitz and glamour. There's a big part of me that's like, this has nothing to do with me and I don't care. It feels really self-indulgent for people who give a shit about this era of Hollywood and these filmmakers me and I don't care. It feels really self-indulgent for people who give a shit
Starting point is 01:32:25 about this era of like Hollywood and these like filmmakers and I don't. But, you know, more often than not I can enjoy something like that. But it does feel very like who are these for, these movies? Did you watch a love letter to podcasting? Yes, like the Zach Braff show. Yes, Alex Inc. That show that I loved, yeah, I loved that show
Starting point is 01:32:43 that I definitely watched. It again was made specifically for people like me and I still didn't watch it. A guy who has a podcast, business. Because I love business. We all love it. And that's why it's the perfect time to invest in my NFTs, Mason. I'm going to let you get in from the ground up.
Starting point is 01:32:58 How much money you got on you or around you? A couple of bucks probably. I'll need a bit more than that, but we'll talk about it after. Should we walk to an ATM? Yeah. Down the street? That's a great idea actually. Anyway, you got anything else or should we wrap it up?
Starting point is 01:33:11 I think that's the whole show. Great stuff, Mason. That's right. Check what's coming out next week. But go on while you do the wrap up. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast. We absolutely appreciate it. You're welcome, Mason. Happy to do it.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Thank you for subscribing to the podcast. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast. Thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice because that's how we get new listeners. They look at the reviews and they go, love it. Wow, this is good. Or maybe they don't read the reviews, but they probably see the star rating. Probably see the star and they go, that's true.
Starting point is 01:33:38 So this one is from Big Booty Music Nerd. I love it. By the way, you can just do this in app, whatever app you're listening to. That's right. Five Stars said, the best people I've never met. Been listening for five years now. These two goofballs are part of my daily life and I love hearing their jokes and stories on the show. Two great guys
Starting point is 01:33:54 sharing some great laughs. It's true. This is from Kane Nielsen who says, Five Stars also, if you like this, listen to Cinema Lifestyles by Colton Nielsen. So funny. But I found another podcast that's really similar
Starting point is 01:34:10 and it's called A Cinema's Lifestyle. Colton Nielsen does it. He's amazing and it's very similar to this. And that's from Can Nielsen. I don't know whether they're related or the same person. But if you want to sneak in a little promo to yourself or something else. Doesn't affect us at all? Just give us the – I only want the star rating.
Starting point is 01:34:28 We just need the star rating. We're the only people that have ever read these reviews. It can say blah, blah, goo, goo, ga, ga. That's right. I'm a baby. Anyway, that podcast sounds like a real love letter to cinema. Anyway, I looked it up. It hasn't had an episode in a while, but it does exist.
Starting point is 01:34:43 You can check that out if you're so inclined. That's right. Did we hear back from the guy who wrote it and said he did a podcast and then didn't tell us the podcast? No, he didn't read my back. An absolute king move, by the way. Sure. Just incredible.
Starting point is 01:34:55 What else, Mason? Folks, if you want to get into contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com, or you can go to our Facebook page, Twitter stuff, all this stuff. Twitter stuff. All this stuff. If you want to follow some people, you can follow. First, you follow Rob Collings.
Starting point is 01:35:07 He's at Raw Collings. He airs his podcast. The first person to follow. Edits videos. He does all sorts of crazy stuff. He's at Raw Collings on Twitter. He's also at The Weekly Planet on Twitter. That's where you get all your Weekly Planet updates and news and so forth.
Starting point is 01:35:20 He's not wrong. He tells only the truth. That's right. You can follow me at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter and at Nick Mace on Instagram. James is Mr. Sunday Movies everywhere. You know, I'm going to give a shout-out to Weekly Planet Posters. Oh, yeah. We sometimes forget to do that, but that's just Chris.
Starting point is 01:35:33 He's just a guy. We don't know him. We've never met him. That's just Chris. Just Chris. That's right. Yeah, yeah. And he makes funny posters based on stupid things we say.
Starting point is 01:35:41 That's true. Even our movie commentaries. That's right. There was one this week, and I'm glad he made the poster and he provided a little context with the clip where we talked. He's taking paywall things and putting them out in the public. That's right. Let's get him arrested.
Starting point is 01:35:56 We should sue him and get him arrested. But it's a little movie called Megatron. Doesn't want to get brunch but then he'll get brunch. And I'm glad he put the clip in because I would have forgotten we said that. That wasn't from the show? No, that was from Ant-Man. Is it? There you go.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Yeah. So follow him also. Great posters. I will. I do. Yeah. Yeah. Nice.
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Starting point is 01:36:31 It is amazing, right? Yeah. Yeah. You can also get T-shirts at tpublic.com, search for the Weekly Planet. And thank you to the Brute and the Basilisk and Rack and Frollo musical themes. Next week is Creed, maybe, or Scream?
Starting point is 01:36:42 Creed 3. No, then it's Scream the week after. Yeah, which I'm really excited for. Both of those, actually. It's Cream month, folks. It certainly is. Creed and Scream. I've just got the list here.
Starting point is 01:36:53 And also the same week as Scream, 65. Oh, yeah, okay. And then the week after that is Shazam, and then it's just movies for the rest of our lives. Oh, my God. Then it's John Wick 3, and the week after that it's Dungeons and Dragons. Oh, my God. The week's John Wick 3. The week after that it's Dungeons and Dragons. Oh, my God. The week after that it's the movie Air,
Starting point is 01:37:08 which I know you've been looking forward to. No, I haven't. I don't look forward at all. Or The Pope's Exorcist. Oh, yeah, with Russell Crowe. And also the same week is the Super Mario Brothers movie, which I'm super looking forward to. Then there's like Evil Dead.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Oh, my God. New Evil Dead. Yeah. Then there's Guardians. Then there's Fast 8 or 10 or whatever the fuck we're up to. Yeah. It's just Fast 8 again. We feel you didn't appreciate it last time, so we're bringing it back.
Starting point is 01:37:33 No, we won't release 10 until everybody watches this one and say they thought it was good. They're not going to release 9 again? They're going to release 8 and then 10. I feel 8 was underappreciated. That's fine with me. Do you remember the bit where Statham puts a little set of earmuffs on a baby and then he shoots everybody?
Starting point is 01:37:51 You didn't appreciate that enough. I appreciate it. That was a good bit. Not you, other people. Oh, okay. But I don't have to see it again. No, you do have to see it again. Fucking hell.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Because if you don't see it again, we've got to spread the word otherwise. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just got a tweet here that's come up. It said, Bo Baxter, who says, should I watch Inhumans again at Mr. Sunday Movies? No.
Starting point is 01:38:07 No, don't do that. I'm just going to write that now. Yeah, don't do that. That's not worth it. No. And you're in the podcast. Nice. Thanks, everyone.
Starting point is 01:38:19 That's it. Thank you very much. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Oh, I met two listeners. I was in the city. Two listeners? I met two listeners on Burke Street in the span of like two minutes.
Starting point is 01:38:28 They didn't even know each other. They didn't even know each other. Sure wasn't the same person walking around the block with a mustache. Oh, hello, aren't you Nick Mason from the podcast? Oh, my God. Yeah. They did have fake sounding names. Never met anybody.
Starting point is 01:38:39 That's right. That's interesting. We never left the house. So now you know my family and these two people. Yeah, yeah. Fletcher and I think maybe Jonathan. Interesting stuff. That, yeah. Fletcher and I think maybe Jonathan. Interesting stuff. That's right.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Great. Thank you for saying hello to Mason and not beating him up, which would be your natural inclination. Yeah, and your right to do so. Bye. Bye. Bye. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship
Starting point is 01:39:01 between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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