The Weekly Planet - 468 Creed III

Episode Date: March 6, 2023

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Visit heartandstroke.ca. Red hot comic book movie news. Defenders of the Earth. Def episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me as always is my co-host, Delicious Kombucha. Welcome Kombucha to the show. Thanks for having me. Don't drink me. Well, I've got to. It's over for you.

Mason's in too. What if I wasn't here? I couldn't make it and you're making the best of a bad situation. Anyway, it's late. It is late. The late one, obviously. Yeah. People know that.

We try to make them normal when they're late. We're like, all right, this is just going to be the same. But there's something in the air. I don't know what it is. Yeah. People know that. We try to make them normal when they're late. We're like, all right, this is just going to be the same. But there's something in the air. I don't know what it is. Yeah. It's dark. No one can see us. No one can see us.

That's right. We recorded the pitch black. Mason, big week this week. Big week. Grade three. Grade three. Did you find it incredible? Hold your thoughts.

We'll talk about it later. Okay. There will be time codes if people want to jump to that. But we're also going to talk about who's playing Spider-Woman in the new Madam Web movie potentially. Oh, and which Spider-Man potentially. Which Spider-Man, Spider-Woman or Spider-Person, whatever. Do you mean there's another Spider-Man in there?

Is that what you're saying? No, but there is another Spider-Man casting. Oh, for Indian Spider-Man? Yes. Yeah, that's true. We can talk about that. We can talk about that maybe. We're going to talk about the new cast of the upcoming Ninja Turtles movie, Mason.

We're going to talk about some DC stuff, including the future of Shazam. Is that happening maybe or maybe not? Maybe we will be getting a David A. Suicide Squad cut potentially. What? Maybe. What? Casting for the Hellboy reboot, second reboot. And then trailers ahoy for The Haunted Mansion

and Peter and Wendy. Two grim retellings of something or whatever, aren't they? Aren't they, Mason? Well, isn't the sort of the, I was reading recently, isn't the sort of the background for those is perhaps that because copyright on those characters is sort of, a lot of the Disney stuff. This is a great start for me. I agree, it's really good. A lot of the Disney stuff. Yeah. This is a great start for me.

I agree. It's really good. A lot of the Disney stuff, it's just public domain characters or characters that will soon be in the public domain. Sure, yeah. So it's just like flood the market with our version. It's also something to do with like, I know with like Peter Pan, they can do like their version of it or whatever.

Like they can't, but no one else can do that exact situation. I think it's, I don't know if that applies to Peter Pan, but it applies to like Jungle Book and some other stuff, Little Mermaid and whatever else. All great remakes. Big Bad Beetleborgs. Oh, Big Bad Beetleborgs. Disney can only do their version of Big Bad Beetleborgs.

You know Hans Christian Andersen's Big Bad Beetleborgs? That classic tale? Yeah. At the end, everyone gets eaten or whatever by a bear or something. Sure. That's how those things always end. Yeah. We learn a valuable lesson.

Anyway, they shouldn't have gone outside. They got eaten. All the beetleborgs got eaten. Mason, this is via Jeff Snyder's The Hot Mike podcast. Oh, yes. He's been saying, he'd be saying that Sydney Sweeney, of course we know from Euphoria and also White Lotus and various other things.

Other things probably. She's going to be actually. That birthday celebration she had and people were like, are they her relatives? What the hell? Hey, man. What is the flag on that guy's shirt? What is it saying?

Everybody, look, I have relatives like that. So I'm not going to be throwing stones because, look, you catch me a photo with somebody like that. Those photos exist. They're out there, Mason. I want to get ahead of it. All right.

That's right. Your family are big bad beetle balls. I'm saying people aren't defined by their family necessarily, Mason. This is just a defense of myself. They are defined by which spider woman they may or may not be in a movie. So she's going to apparently be a Spider-Woman, and it's unknown which one at this point,

but apparently probably Julia Carpenter. Yes. Which one's that? Julia Carpenter is the one that looks like Black Suit Spider-Man because her costume came first, and then they ripped it off of Black Suit Spider-Man. So it's the black and white costume. She's got sort of a flowing red hair situation.

And Jessica Drew is the British one. That's right, another surprise British Marvel character. Yuck. Secretly British. She's the one that has sort of the red and yellow costume and black hair. The red and yellow costume, of course, they ripped off of Spider-Man's Iron Spider suit. Oh, yeah.

And she's the one who, she's not magic. What is she? She's got different spider powers or something,weeper. Oh, yeah. And she's the one who, she's not magic. What is she? She's got different spider powers or something, doesn't she? Oh, boy. One of them's got different Spider-Man powers. Julia Carpenter, so the one Sidney Sweeney presumably is playing. Yeah. I think she has psychic web powers.

Okay, right. She throws out like a. It's a psychic blast, is it? Yeah, of sorts, yes. That's so cool. It's cool. Yeah. Yeah.

It is cool. Yeah. Yeah. It is cool. I think so. So speaking of, we may as well, while we're doing Across the Spider-Verse, what was the casting that you be heard here in this week, Mason? I don't have it here, but let's grab it. I believe his name is Karan Soni, and he plays the cab driver. In the Deadpool movies, that's right. And he's also Jerry Seinfeld in the Auntie Donna Bigger House of Fun series.

I meant to ask them, but I will next time I see them. Because I know they reached out to a lot of big names. I wonder if they wrote that for Jerry Seinfeld initially. But anyway, that's great. It's a really funny show and moment. So, yeah, that's cool. I like that a lot. I like that cast.

We're going to be seeing all sorts of spider peeps in that movie, bouncing and swinging about, Mason. Don't you agree? Yes. He agrees, everybody. But more about this spider woman thing. Sure. Is there anything else?

Plot villains. Oh, Adam Scott's in it. Oh, I don't mind that. I think he's an Uncle Ben, maybe. Okay. Dakota Fanning's in it. Hi, I'm an Uncle Ben. Which one?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Do you need me to die to teach you a lesson about power and responsibility? Because I get the afternoon free, if you don't mind. I'm just looking at the cast here, and yeah, nobody's there. Oh, no, he is Ben Parker. Dakota Johnson is Madam Web. Okay, yeah.

Whatever that even means now, because, you know, she's going to be sitting in a big spider chair. I hope she's sitting in a big spider chair. I don't think she is because I think there's photos on set and she's, like, driving an ambulance or something. She's like a paramedic. Emma Roberts is in it. She's looking at a big spider chair and she's going,

tut, tut, tut, not on my watch. I would never. But that's probably just a little. That's a teaser for the sequel. I agree. Good cast, though, looking at this cast. But, you know, it's also a Sony Spider-Man spinoff. So, you know, take that as you will.

But, no, the animated one apparently is looking good as well. That's great. Across the Spider-Verse. Speaking of animation, Mason. Go on. They announced that there will be a trailer earlier in the week for this Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem. Yes.

And they announced the cast. Now of the four like Ninja Turtle characters, look, this is a young man's game. Oh, these are all young fellas. Yeah, that's right. Some of them I recognise from things and some of them I do not, but it's Mika Abbey, Shimon Brown Jr., Nicholas Cantu and Bradley Noon. Well, I don't recognise any of those names.

That's right. But once they're in four to five movies, I'll be like, by the fifth movie, I'll be like, wasn't that guy in one of those other movies? I saw a movie. Oh, yeah. I saw a movie. I saw a movie that time.

Okay, Grandpa. Off you go. But for the oldies. Yeah, here we go. Here we go. Seth Rogen is Bebop. Good casting. John Cena is Bebop. Good casting. John Cena is Rocksteady.

Good casting. Paul Rudd is Mondo Gecko. I love Mondo Gecko. Yeah, he's pretty good. He's cool. And Giancarlo Esposito is Baxter Stockman. So there's also, I didn't, there's a Baxter Stockman. Go on.

And there's also a character called Superfly who's played by Ice Cube who's a different fly-based character. Okay. Yeah. Also, I suspect this Baxter Stockman is more akin to the one from the original comic books. He's the guy that builds the mouses, the mouse-hunting robots, but he doesn't turn into a fly man.

Okay. So I suspect. He might be that one. He might be that one. But I think they've both got like fly motifs around there. Oh, okay. Let's have a look. I don't know.

But Post Malone is Ray Fillett. Okay, sure. Well, that's good. Who's Man Ray? Is that Ray Fillett? Is there a man? I think. Is there a man Ray?

That's Ray Fillett. Maybe Ray Fillett is Man Ray. Yeah, you might be right. Okay. Who's the Crocodile Man? Oh, that's fucking. What's her name? She's Australian. Rose Byrne. Oh. Is Leatherhead. I was going to say as a joke, Rose Byrne. um the crocodile man oh that's fucking um what's her name she's australian rose burn

oh his leatherhead i was gonna say as a joke rose burn well no it's real wow i know that's upset you because i know you want is there going to be any guarantees yes you know but you know whatever she's a professional maybe she'll give us what we want yeah that's right yeah yeah great um do you think with with uh with seth rogan and Yeah, great. Do you think with Seth Rogen and Paul Rudd, do you think we're going to get a replay of Here's How I Know You're Gay from the 40-year-old version? Yes, I do think that, yeah. I think so too.

I think it's about time they brought it back. I think bring back that little routine, I think. I think it probably aged really well. Yeah. You know what? The worst thing about that scene is they're using different controllers. One's on like a Dreamcast controller. One's on a Nintendo 64.

It's nonsense, Mason. Maybe they have two televisions. They're playing two separate games. That's fine then. That's just bros being bros in the same room, you know? It is bros being bros. On top of that, so this is directed by Jeff Rowe, who's the director of The Mitchells vs. The Machine,

which is a great animated movie if you've seen it. I haven't. I think it went straight to Netflix. Terrific. Really good, though. Anyway, as I mentioned before, I think there's something to like about every incarnation, and my son has been working through. He's now back on the 2012 series, which is a lot of fun.

There's just a series where it's just set entirely in space. Oh, okay. Season four is just like, oh, this one's in space. Do they meet the alien rhinoceros? Yes, they do. The Triceratons. Yes, just like, oh, this one's in space. Do they meet the alien rhinoceros? Yes, they do. The Triceratons. Yes, they do, Mason. There's one where they travel to ancient Japan

like 20 years earlier. Nice. Not ancient Japan. Slightly earlier Japan. Maybe in the early 90s. This is the 80s. Oh my god. Yuck. Yuck. This technology is closer to our technology. I don't like it. Apparently in this movie, and the new one, I really like Rise as well.

Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That was good and I like the movie as well. But this new one, apparently they're going to be in high school. Like they're just going to be just put them in high school and be like, and they're normal teens and whatever. Alright. But they're not going to do, they are normal

kids who are turned into turtles. No, I think they're just like, we'll just send some turtles to school. Oh, Jackie Chan is Splinter. We didn't mention that. Oh, you go. Hannibal Buress, did you mention that? Genghis Frog. Cool.

They're bringing a lot of deep cuts here. Exactly. Now, Mason. They changed the rules again regarding what mutagen does. Depends on the series. It does depend on the series. You can be double mutated. You can be triple mutated. You can be double mutated. You can be triple mutated.

You can be not mutated. You can be regular. Just a regular man? Yeah. Or just a regular animal? Yes. Wow. You know what I think they should lean into in Ninja Turtles?

Maybe they have an incarnation. You're a chicken on a farm. You're being led into like an industrial thresher. You're going to be turned into a roast chicken at the supermarket. Like, oh boy, I sure hope I get mutagen into a chicken super warrior real soon. That'll be great. It's getting close. Oh boy.

This is what I think. And maybe what I'm about to say might be in an incarnation, but there's no reason, and sometimes they're not because they look different, that they're actually, any of the turtles are blood related. Sure. They could just be four different turtles. And often they're different colors and sizes anyway or whatever. And I think that would be interesting to lean into the idea of a family

that they're not even related, seeing as their dad is a rat anyway. Sure, yeah, yeah. And I think, you know, they could be. We can all relate. Exactly. Many of us have dads who are rats. I've got a photo of them and I don't want to tell you about it. But, yeah, I don't know.

You could have a scene where it's like, well, they're even real brothers, but they are real brothers, Mason. In a way they are, aren't they? That's right, because it's more about how many people you can beat up together. And you're just going to give that scene away for free. Should we edit that out maybe? What am I going to do with it? We put it behind the paywall and we say,

Nickelodeon, whoever owns the Ninja Turtles, if you want a scene that's about family and people are going to love it, you've got to pay $9 a month. You go to bigsandwich.co, you can click on that link and you can get that scene. I'm going to blow your mind. Where they're like, we're not real brothers. Well, in a way, we are brothers.

Yeah. Jackie Chan's like, in a way, you're the best kind of brothers there are. Mutant brothers. Who beat up people. Beat up people. Violent mutant brothers. Hey, yeah, we are. And then you just wreck a convenience store.

And they high five. Yeah, we're brothers we're violent brothers I love it yeah so anyway that's probably it's probably been done I probably saw that somewhere and just stole it I don't know anyway I look you know what

I would love to I would never happen but to like write something with the Ninja Turtles would be amazing I like the Ninja Turtles with the Ninja Turtles yeah with them we'd write something together okay that'd be great it'll literally never happen but to like write something with the ninja turtles would be amazing i like the ninja turtles yeah with them we'd write something together yeah it'll literally never happen but uh well yeah because i wouldn't let you in the group you have to prove how violent you are i

could be violent mason i could wreck a convenience store i guess you could anyway um speaking uh speaking of things that won't happen or might not happen. Here we go. This would be a good segue if you pull this off. So you know how it's uncertain the future of Shazam in the DC universe? Absolutely, yes. It's not tracking well at the moment. People are kind of unsure. I don't know whether it's even coming out or know what's going on with it.

Zachary Levi has said some things that can be interpreted in literally any way you want, and it's caused everyone to hate him. Regardless of your stance on politics or vaccination or anything, really. Too vague, Zachary. What did he say? Excuse me? Well, I don't like this guy anymore. Neither do any of my freak family,

who think the exact opposite things that I do. None of us like him. There was a tweet from I'm Vinny T who says, hey David, I don't feel like watching the movie because, this is David F. Sandberg who's directing it and who I like, watching the movie because of the drama happening around DC studios. It is just killing the vibe

of the film. There's a lot of uncertainty about DC's future. Just give us an answer whether Shazam will have a role in the future of the DCU. David F. Sandberg replied, he definitely won't. Actually, Shazam is the wizard. He's actually Captain Marvel, but for copyright reasons, because he's not Captain Marvel in the movie, because Marvel has a trademark on Captain Marvel.

But also, in the comics, I think they've changed his name to the Captain or something. Did they? I'm David F. Sandberg. Yes, they did. Yeah, yeah. I think so. Oh, okay.

I didn't know that part. Which I don't. I think they should just call him Captain Marvel. Yeah, who cares? They're still allowed to. Whatever. Also, there's already a Marvel character called the Captain. Yeah, is there?

He's in Next Wave. Oh. Which isn't around anymore. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, after he said all that, after he got real condescending, then he said, no, he said, it definitely wouldn't be if people don't go see the movie. What I've been told is there's nothing in the Shazam films that contradicts the future plans for dc they are

like vaguely linked you see a batarang and some of superman but not all of superman yeah and also there'll be a universe reset with a flash but as i said the possibility for more shazam is there and if that's what you want uh your best bet is to go see the film. I think there's a very good chance even if this doesn't do well, I think he'll be fine. I think even if it's bad, which I don't think it will be, and if it doesn't do well, I think he will be fine. If he doesn't get picked up by DC, he will somewhere else. Oh, you mean the actor Zachary Levi?

No, no, the director. Oh, David S. Ambush. Zachary Levi will be done. He'll be finished. Oh, no. That will be the end of his career. I will make sure of it, Levi? No, no, the director. Oh, David S. Hamburg. No, Zachary Levi will be done. He'll be finished. Oh, no. That will be the end of his career. I will make sure of it, basically. Oh, no.

I'm going to put on, I don't know, one of his masks and wreck a convenience store. Oh, one of his masks. One of his masks. That he walks around in the city doing good deeds. You'll ruin his reputation. Yep, that's what I'll do. That's what I'm going to do.

Okay, that's great. Thank you. deeds, you'll ruin his reputation. Yep, that's what I'll do. That's what I'm going to do. Okay, that's great. Thank you. So, you know. Yeah, but also if it makes a billion dollars, yeah, they'll find a way to squeeze it in. Absolutely. But it won't. I don't think it will.

No, it's tracking lower than the last one. But, you know, if it's good, you know, things can build and whatever. It's true. So, you know, we'll see. Anyways, maybe, David, are you a Suicide Squad cut? I don't believe you, but go on. Okay, so I think we talked about this recently, that it would be strange for James Gunn, when

he's reciting the setting of the universe, to be like, and here's another version of Suicide Squad that's from eight, seven, eight years ago? Let's stoke the fires. Let's really get those guys who were, they were on the wane, and I thought to myself, you know what? I just like these guys around all the time, just filling my life with noise and being angry.

Absolutely. I like that, so let's bring this back. Let's bring this back and tease the possibility that the Snyderverse will be coming back. Let's do it. This is a different subgroup of fans, though, I feel like, who want to see this. The noise of the Ayer card is not the same.

There's some overlap. There's definitely an overlap, but I'm saying it want to see this. Like the noise of the A-Cut is not the same. There's some overlap. There's definitely an overlap, but I mean I'm saying it's a subgroup. There'll be a same group, but it's like a splinter of that group is what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And some of this group thinks that the Snyder fans, like the Snyder fans are all on the same side, but the Snyder fans would cut them out in a heartbeat.

Yep. And they're right to do that. That's right. If they have even a sniff of a Man of Steel 2, they'll kick these Ayer fans to the curb. Ayer cut, never heard of it. You're right. So he actually replied to somebody on Twitter, but he didn't in Spanish, but I put it through Google Translate because that's the kind of person that I am most.

A man of the people in international. That's right. In relation to speaking to James Gunn, he said, I spoke to him a while ago, all with patience. He has the right to put together his new universe before visiting the past. Cheer up. Good things are coming. Winking smiley face. That could mean anything or nothing or something or maybe promised a DVD

double pack. I don't know. Oh, wow. He's going to send everybody a DVD double pack? That'd be cool. Wow. Wouldn't it? So, yeah.

I mean, look, if they release it, I would be interested to see what it looks like. But if they don't, I don't care if they don't. You'll say anything. I will. You're right. Very strong stance there. Yep.

I like it. And the things I don't want people to know I said, I put on my Zachary Levi mask and then I say them anyway, Mason. Wow. Yeah, that's right. Maybe he just means I'll be making a new movie soon. Yeah, exactly. Or I could be working with James Gunn on, yeah, something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. On a boat. We're building a boat together. Are they really? Yeah, yeah. And he says I get a whole room to myself and I'm going to put Suicide Squad stuff in it, but my version. Wow, that's great.

Yeah, yeah. It's going to be really exciting to see that boat that they're making together. They're building a boat together, yes. Okay, for... Fun. Okay. And travels? Or are they just going to keep it tied up in the dock? I think they say they're going to go on an adventure

together, but then James is going to be too busy. Yeah, okay. And every day, David A will be like, hey, James, you want to go out on the boat? Do I need to? I can help you set up your Suicide Squad bedroom too from your Suicide Squad movie. Oh, you're busy? Are you busy directing the future of the DCU?

Okay. Maybe tomorrow? Okay, great. I'll call you tomorrow, James Gunn. You know where I'll be? On the boat that we built together. I'm just saying it needs to, because one guy needs to be here, one guy needs to trim the sails if we want to go out on the...

Oh, it's a sailboat. It's a sailboat. What did you think it was? I just thought it was some kind of catamaran. That's a lot. No, what's the one... You thought it was a speedboat. No, what's the one where you go to Tasmania?

It's got the big... The ferry. No, the fin ones. They've got like a big... Sharks. It's like that. Foxy sharks. Yeah, it's a big boxy shark.

I don't think it's that. No, it doesn't matter. I think it's a little, I don't know what it is. It's got at least two rooms. It's got at least two rooms, yeah. Yeah. Anyways. I'm saying that as if like you could build a,

I think what I'm imagining is just a little tinny, like a little dinghy with a sail and a little diorama in it. Okay. Suicide Squad diorama. Well, that's fun too. That's fun too, I think. We've got a lead actor, Mason, for the new. A lactor?

Yeah, that's right. That's what they call them in Hollywood. Do they? Yeah. For the new Hellboy reboot. Yeah. It's Jack. Lactors coming through, they say.

That's right. Lactors coming through set. Is that true? Yeah. Okay. Jack Kesey, who was in That's right. Actors coming through set. Is that true? Yeah. Okay. Jack Kesey, who was in apparently Deadpool 2. Okay. He's like a biggish guy and he's going to be a new Hellboy.

There you go. Look out, Deadpool. It's biggish guy. It's pretty big. It's pretty big. Oh, is he one of the prisoners in the super prison? Yeah, I think he is. Yeah, yeah.

He's in super prison. Oh, yeah. There's a photo of him as one of the prisoners. Yes. And we talked about this where it's set like in a village, like a remote village, and it's him and one other agent, and it's like early Hellboy days. And it seems like they're keeping it pretty low-key in terms of, like,

locations and spooktacular stuff. Sure, sure, sure. You're not going to see any giant big wheels and things, I'd imagine. No. Like a room full of giant big wheels. Big golden clockwork wheels. Exactly. Sure, sure, sure.

Yeah, so that's cool. What do you think? Pretty good. Hellboy, this convenience store is haunted. Is it? Yeah. I mean, maybe, sure. Yeah.

I mean. My shift's ending, so if you could just work the till while you take care of this. Some of the magazines might have ghosts in them or whatever. I don't know. Keep an eye on them. Probably the cigarettes and that. Keep them locked up. I don't know. Keep an eye on them. Probably cigarettes and that. Keep them locked up. Keep them locked up.

If a kid comes in, that's a Nazi wizard and he wants the ghosts. So don't let him have the cigarettes. Boy, this budget is low. Man, I can't wait for Hellboy works a shift at a 7-Eleven or whatever. Or a haunted 7-Eleven or whatever this is. A haunted 7-Eleven, maybe. No, it's not really. It's not really.

It's regular. So, yeah, there you go. Speaking of haunted, Mason. Go on. We've got two trailers this week. Trailer's in the way. Here it comes. One was for The Haunted Mansion.

Now, there was a Haunted Mansion movie. Eddie Murphy did one in, like, 2003. I haven't seen it. This one. Now, was that post Pirates of the Caribbean? Or was it before Pirates? It might have been the same year. Okay. If it was 2003, that was.

So that came out in November of 2003. And Pirates of the Caribbean came out in June of 2003. So before. So these would have been in production at the same time. Yeah, so it wasn't a case of Pirates of the Caribbean was a huge hit and they're like, what other Disney park attractions can we turn into? I bet they thought the other one was going to do better. A Haunted Mansion?

Yeah, probably. Pirates, because Pirates is like, it shouldn't have worked. Absolutely. And it only did once, really. Yeah, that's true. But at the same time, can you build a franchise on a haunted mansion? Like back to the haunted mansion? How many rooms, you know?

This time it's a convenience store. Owen Wilson was in a haunted mansion movie already. Oh, he was in this one. It's one of the Liam Neeson ones. I can't remember what it's called. But this one, big time all-star cast. We've got Rosario Dawson. We've got Owen Wilson.

We've got Lakeith Stanfield. We've got Owen Wilson. We've got Lakeith Stanfield. We've got different guys, other guys. It looks more like at least the look of it is less sanitized than I thought it would kind of be. It looks like a real movie. Oh, my goodness. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, the Harry Styles effect.

I get it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean by that? Like, it's like, uh, I don't know. There's something about it which there's a tactile-ness to it, you know? We talked about recently about how, like, a lot of movies don't look like they're

nobody's touching anything. That's true. Nobody's picking up a mug. See, I didn't really get that. No? Okay. No. Let's scrub through it real quick now, just to... Okay. No. Let's scrub through it real quick now just to... Okay. Mm-hmm. All right.

Mm-hmm. All right. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, they're okay. Pretty good. All right. They're going in a room. That's not bad.

Okay. It's good to go in a room, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What is this set? Because the little boy has a little bow tie on. Is it set in the past or is this a precocious child? Great question. So Keith looks very modern.

Well, he's a very modern man. He's a very modern man, isn't he? Oh, and Danny DeVito's also in this? Yep. What a delight. What an absolute delight. Look, I think some of the daytime scenes, the very few daytime scenes do look quite tactile,

but I'm just seeing a lot of CG, honestly. Yeah, you're probably right. I did watch it on my phone. Well. But, yeah, what I'm saying is it doesn't look that bad, which is pretty good. That's what you want. Yeah.

I like the director of this as well, Justin. Timberlake. Yeah, Justin Timberlake, yeah. Mason, and speaking of, we also got a trailer for Peter and Wendy. Peter Pan and Wendy Jones. Peter Pan and Wendy. Is it? You've got to know.

I don't have to know. I'm not going to watch a movie about Peter and Wendy. I don't have to know and Wendy is it? you gotta know you can't I don't have to know I'm not gonna watch a movie I don't have to know this what are they a married couple down the end of the block always arguing I don't have to know

like what's their deal just break up yeah right oh you're yep alright no you're okay pretty good

great so this one it's another gritty retelling of Peter Pan's origin not that gritty pretty gritty though it's pretty gritty pretty gritty maybe not as gritty as the movie Peter Pan's origin. I mean, not that gritty. Pretty gritty, though. It's pretty gritty. Pretty gritty.

Maybe not as gritty as the movie Pan, which is the worst movie ever made. Yeah, we've seen that, haven't we? Well, that was the movie that made me go, you know what, I'm not going to all these screenings anymore. I don't think I hate it as much as you do, but also I can't. No, I remember because I came back from the beach for it, so it really rubbed me the wrong way.

I remember I broke a holiday to come and see that. Yeah, right. Yeah, so now I don't do it. I don't go to literally anything anymore. That's true. Yeah, and it would really rub me the wrong way. I remember I broke a holiday to come and see that. Yeah, right. Yeah, so now I don't do it. I don't go to literally anything anymore. That's true. Yeah, and it feels good. Look, I have a question, and maybe this was addressed in the movie Pan, starring Hugh Jackman as the guy who was not Captain Hook

but a different guy. Blackbeard? Yeah, maybe. Blackbeard, maybe? Yeah, because Garrett Hedlund was maybe Blackbeard. Did that establish? Without a beard. No, Hook.

Is Peter Pan native to Neverland or did he come from regular Earth? No, he's an orphan kid. Okay. Yeah. Was that established in Pan or is that canon to every Peter Pan? Yeah, I think because it was his origin so it's when he first arrived and then he becomes the legend known as Peter Pan. Right, right, right.

But in the original stories, did he come from Earth? I think so, yeah. Okay, all right. Good to know. I'm pretty sure, yeah, because it was like, come to the specifics, but he didn't want to grow up and his mum was like, you're going to grow up and work in a bank, and he's like, get fucked, I will not.

That's right. And then he flew away or whatever. That might not even be true. Do kids relate to the idea of I don't ever want to grow up? Did you ever want to be like, I'll never grow up, I don't ever want to grow up? No, I love being grown up. Yeah, I'll be a little kid forever.

Well, great. Enjoy not being able to drive. I don't even like driving, but it's good to know that I can. Enjoy not being able to drive to McDonald's and saying, can I get one of those birthday ice cream cakes? No, it's not my birthday. I just have money. Thanks.

Then I'll just throw it in the ground in the parking lot and i'll leave in front of a bunch of kids that's right i can do this any day i want any day i'm not working obviously yeah of course i mean you're gonna be yeah i mean i'm gonna work a lot i'm gonna go i'm gonna work at a bank and i hate it i mean we talked about i do get to do violence on ice cream we talked about this recently like what would you do if like you're a kid again with like your mind now and i think i'd just go insane yeah just like having all your restrictions like placed upon you again you couldn't tell anybody because they wouldn't believe you it was sort of a viral meme or a viral question that went around twitter which

was would you rather have 10 million dollars or go back to when you were a kid but know everything you know now 10 million straight up what are you like hey hey mom and dad can you you should invest in google for me we won't yeah shut up we're not going to do that shut up and talk to your racist uncle oh how long is this the one that dies soon jesus sometimes i guess you could yeah that's true you can tell him that i know exactly when you're gonna die i've written this list what do you want to know i'm literally gonna count down your death i'm gonna be in the room i'm gonna count it down that's right and then i'll celebrate with one of these ice cream cakes if they'll let me buy one no it's for a death.

No, it's for my uncle's upcoming death. No, it's not me. No, no, no. Yeah, no, I was here last week throwing one in the car park, but this one is for a death. Yeah, I mean, we've talked about this. This is unrelated. But like if you went back in time, say, and you had knowledge,

the only thing you could really use it for is like to get rich i guess i mean you could do it for other things i guess but like who cares that's boring like you do it and then then what right and all like all my future will be different i'd meet different people my kids would be different because it'd be a different sperm situation may be a different sperm situation yeah and i just I just don't want to deal with any of that, you know? Yeah, I don't know. Exactly. And also, like, if you were like, I think we should invest in Google

or whatever, and then maybe that changes something, and then Google's not worth anything anymore. Yeah. Because the newspaper comes out and it's like, extra, extra stupid kid in Australia invests in stupid company. And then it ruins Google's whole vibe. It turns out Ask Jeeves is the popular thing. You get a Jeeves phone.

It's a black and white photo of you, like, throwing down an ice cream cake. I bought this one because I'm mad. Anyway, Peter and Wendy. Oh, yeah. I won't see it. You won't see it. Maybe I'll take my kids. You won't see it?

Nah, probably not. My goodness. What if it's the only thing coming out that week? Then I guess if I need someone to see with my kids, I'll go take them, I guess, if it's not too spooky scary. Okay, right. Okay, good. You know?

Yeah, I mean, it looked pretty standard issue, didn't it? Yeah. It's not the worst thing I've ever seen. There's just been a lot of this. Yeah. So. The lost boys appear to live on just some sort of abandoned island. Cool.

I don't know what's going on there. It's better when they're in a jungle. They've got like a jungle house. Well, you haven't seen this yet. Maybe you'll come out of this and you'll be like, you know what? It was better they lived on an abandoned island. Although that was cool. Yeah, that was great actually.

Yeah. Maybe you're right, Mason. Maybe this movie I won't see will prove me wrong. That's right. All right. Any more news? Here's a bit of news. Okay.

This is Creed related. Oh, okay. I mean it's a spoiler for Creed in the sense it's something that's not in Creed. Oh. Do you think that's a spoiler? Is it Rocky? It's Rocky. Rocky is not in Creed. Let's do it.

It's a Variety article. Why Sylvester Stallone's not in Creed 3. Because he's mad. He is mad. I didn't know this. Yeah, he's real mad. Do we talk about this? Maybe.

Well, no, probably not if you don't know. But I forget things, James. My brain doesn't work. Yeah, you wouldn't forget this. You'd know if Stallone was mad. Yeah, well, I didn't. There's one part. Look, I guess maybe I was like, oh, yeah, it would make sense that he's mad.

But there's a bit about this that surprised me. So let's see. A lot of moviegoers may find themselves asking the same question. Where the hell is Sylvester Stallone's Rocky Balboa? So, of course, he was in Creed and Creed II. Yep. And he was in the Rocky movies. Yep.

And I think also Creed II did wrap up his story. I actually watched Creed II earlier this week in preparation for Creed. Yeah. And it's great. It's really good. Yeah. Look, as a trilogy, and we'll get into the movie momentarily, I think it works that, you know, the first one is the discovery

of Adonis Creed and then the second one he's sort of becoming his own man and the third one's his own separate thing. Yeah. For him, if this movie ended with Rocky showing up and being like, good job, Sluggy, you've done it again, I'm proud of you again. I'm proud of you again and that's all you wanted really. I'm proud of you again. I remember you. I'm proud of you again. I'm proud of you again, and that's all you wanted, really. I'm proud of you again. I remember you.

I'm proud of you. So apparently he wasn't the biggest fan of Creed III's creative direction, and also, this is the part that I didn't know, he has a clash against longtime franchise producer Erwin Winkler. Yes. Which has an ongoing feud of sorts. He basically wants the rights. Yeah, I assume because.

No, because he sold them in the 70s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For like nothing. I mean, he made out like a bandit on these movies, obviously. Like regardless, he got to make 47 Rocky movies. Yeah, yeah. That number's interesting because it's been 47 years. Is it really?

Yeah, I knew that. This is the 47th year. Nine films, 47 years. I didn't fucking see that. Right? But apparently, look, the Variety film critics said Creed III is a sports drama that feels more like a Cape Fear-inspired thriller than a traditional Rocky movie.

Disagree. No. What? What element of it is Cape Fear? I don't know. But they're suggesting it's a darker take than the uplifting Rocky franchise. So Stallone said, that's a regretful situation because I know what it could have been about the sequel's tone.

It was taken in a direction that's quite different than I would have taken it. It's a different philosophy, Erwin Winkler and Michael B. Jordan. I wish them well, but I'm much more of a sentimentalist. I like my heroes getting beat up, but I just don't want them going to that dark space. I just feel people have enough darkness. Okay. I mean, that's not that dark. It's not that dark at all.

I didn't find it that dark at all. I think, if anything, it's probably more like your Rocky III and IV. It's not quite there, but it's got that kind of vibe at times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not always. Yeah, but Michael B. Jordan said on the radio, the underdog spirit, I think, connects the underdog and all this. I want Adonis to stand on his own two feet, and that makes sense when we talk about the movie.

But, yeah, so. I mean, also, like, he wouldn't have been able to make the original Rocky without making this deal with the studio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand. But I also understand, like, yeah, he created this entire thing. Yeah, so Winkler owned it since 1976. Yeah.

So, like, sold him the rights all those years ago, clearly unaware of the franchise potential for the character. Sure. Yeah, so Winkler owned it since 1976. Yeah. So they sold him the rights all those years ago, clearly unaware of the franchise potential for the character. Sure. Yeah, so there you go. But it wouldn't have been made otherwise. Well, that's true. It's a real double-edged. I mean, well, it's a double-edged sword.

And it's sort of, it is an amazing underdog story in the sense that he got to write it and star in it in the first place. And he gave up like a bunch of privileges to be in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they weren't going to let him star in it for, you know, for the time would make sense, like for good reasons. Yeah. There you go.

Yeah. And watching him again in like Creed 2, he's very good in it. And he's really kind of understated. Yeah. Like he's great. Like he doesn't play it, you know, I don't know, he's just really good at doing it. Do you think he is like Harrison Ford in the sense that he maybe loves,

like Ford loves Indiana Jones but he doesn't like Han Solo? So what doesn't he love is what you're saying? Yeah, I'm saying surely Stallone loves Rocky but he doesn't love Rambo is what I'm saying. He still makes Rambos though. Yeah, maybe not in the same way. Because Rambo's like, I don't know, to me there's something less interesting about Rambo. I also think Rambo movies aren't as good in general.

Especially that last one. That was atrocious. But, you know, whatever. Oh, wow. Oh, okay. This is a quote from Stallone about Creed II. Another heartbreaker. Just found this out.

Once again, this is in caps. This pathetic 94 year old producer and his moronic useless vulture children charles and david are once again picking clean the bones of another wonderful character i created without even telling me i apologize to the fans i never wanted rocky characters to be exploited by these parasites by the way i have nothing but respect for Dolph. That was the Drago spin, right? That was the, yeah.

And then Dolph Lundgren didn't end up making it. Interestingly, you know what we'll talk about. He's not in this one either. But anyway, we should talk about Creed 3. Let's talk about Creed 3. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to

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So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Now, Creed III, Mason, this had a budget of $75 million. Now, at the box office... That's cheap as chips. I guess. At the box office, this was...

No, not really. The two people hitting each other. It's going to take the number one spot in the US box office and could hit as high as $50 million, which is actually going to be a rocky franchise record. It's interesting to note. High or low? High.

It will be the highest. Okay. It seems no matter what. Well, then it's been a very good couple of months for Jonathan Majors, who's had two number ones in five minutes. Well, that's apparently the last time this happened was. I can't remember. It was a lady, though.

It was a lady. I want to say it was Zoe Saldana, but it wasn't. No, it was before that. It's been a long time. It was somebody else. It was before that. Yeah. But it's going to, yeah.

I'm going to do a big Google on it. Do it, do it, do it. So it's going to take the Ant-Man, take the top spot from Ant-Man 3, which experienced the second biggest MCU second week drop-off ever, and that's behind Black Widow. So Ant-Man 3, just to quickly talk about that, it did have like – its opening was decent, but its drop-off was huge. And that's also like Spider-Man, no where, where are we, whatever it was.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That had a – We down the shops? That had a huge second – Yeah, we down the shops. I'm going to get some chips. Why not? If I'm here. That had a- We down the shops? That had a huge second- Yeah, we down the shops. I'm going to get some chips. Why not? If I'm here.

That had a huge- I'm going to get those honey soy chicken chips. No. What? No, they're all right. Your taste is all over the place. I want a potato,

just a raw potato. Yeah, I bet you do. Unwashed. So that had a huge second week drop off, but also it had a massive opening. Ant-Man didn't have

that big an opening, but it still had a significant drop off. also like it had a massive opening ant-man didn't have that big an opening but it still had a significant drop off but which you could you could say also well it had such a big opening that that drop off is not as bad which i guess could be true but it's also it's not good news for the mcu yeah to have a to be to have an opening and then a drop off like yeah yeah yeah pretty okay the answer james for people who are wondering the last time this happened with two live action performances was in january 2013 when Jessica Chastain was in both Zero Dark Thirty and the movie Mama. Both debuted at number one a week apart.

Incredible. Incredible even. It's incredible. I'm incredulous. Interesting. What did you think the story was? Ah. Nice.

Well, Adonis Creed, he's been know him. He's been a big champion. Yeah. He's been through the bloody wars, mate. He's brave. Yep. I agree. And not just professionally, personally. Oh, yeah, you think so?

Yes, mate. He's been through the ringer. Oh, yeah. Nice. And he's bloody retired, though. He's retired on top. He's been the champ. Yep.

He's been the light heavyweight champ. He's been the heavyweight champ. That's it. Yeah. Two of the big ones. He beat up that guy again at the start of the movie in a montage. He's been the light heavyweight champ. He's been the heavyweight champ. That's it. Yeah. Two big ones. He beat up that guy again at the start of the movie in a montage. That's right. Or a montage fight or whatever.

He's retired. He's got a daughter and a Rolls Royce. Yep. That's all you need. What happened to his old car? I don't know. Remember he had that cool car? I don't remember.

Remember when he fought in the second movie, he fought these guys? He's like, I got my car back. I beat up that guy. I got that car back. I don't remember any of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy that he fought at the start, you probably remember, is the guy from the first movie that he fought these guys. He's like, I got my car back. I beat up that guy. I got that car back. I don't remember any of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy that he fought at the start, you probably remember, is the guy from the first movie that he fought.

Yeah. The problem when they put in real fighters in this often is they don't feel like they have, like, big personalities. I think the same is for, like, Rocky Balboa fights, like, a real boxer. Yeah, that's right. And he doesn't have that kind of, like, it's realistic, but he doesn't have that. Or if you put in, like, a Dra a Drago or like a Mr. T,

they've got these larger-than-life personalities who lend themselves to these movies. But I also want to – I guess the problem there, and we'll get back to what the story was because I definitely know what it was. I know you know. But I get – I mean there are people in boxing with bigger personalities, but I also think there is probably a fine line between having a big personality and not wanting to be defeated by a fictional boxer in a movie.

Sure, yeah. You know what I mean? Like there's a Floyd Mayweather, but is he going to be in a movie where like Adonis Creed beats him up? Maybe. Maybe? But no. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's the same with a lot of the MMA guys I think as well. Yeah. Like the bigger personalities, they don't want to be in one scene where a fictional guy beats them up. Yeah, exactly. Where Jake Gyllenhaal beats him up, which was on social media. I don, as well. Yeah. Like the bigger personalities. They don't want to be in one scene where a fictional guy beats them up. Yeah, exactly. Where Jake Gyllenhaal beats them up. Yeah, yeah.

Which was on social media. I don't know if you saw. Yeah, because he's going to be. He's Roadhouse. He's Roadhouse. Jack Roadhouse. That's right. Yeah.

Cool. Yeah. Anyway, you were saying what the story was? You said you remember? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you definitely know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, he's got a daughter in Rolls Royce and he's retired and he's loving it.

Yep. And his wife is still producing music and so forth. Yes. Those tunes. Those tunes we're loving. Yep. Then what bloody happens when a guy comes back from his past? He's like, hey, Adolfo Creed, what's up?

I'm busy. I'm boxing. I'm busy. How busy are you? Yeah. Really? Pretty busy. Run a gym.

Got this car. Might take the car out. Might take it. Drive it out. Drive down the beach maybe. Get an ice cream cake. Yeah. Throw take the car out. Might take it. Drive it out. Drive down the beach maybe. Get an ice cream cake. Yeah. Throw it on the ground.

That's right. But one of those ones with gold foil on it because I'm so rich. It's just a regular ice cream cake but it's got edible gold foil on it. It costs $4,000. But, yeah, so his mate comes back. Yeah. And, you know. And it turns out his mate from back yeah and you know and it turns out

he's a mate from the past and his mate from the past had a lot of potential but he ended up in the slammer and he's like I want a shot at the title and I'm a real good guy

so you should help me out brother yeah and he does but also nefarious purposes perhaps and maybe justified Jonathan Majors

yes as a bone to pick you know what I like about Jonathan Majors in this and also other things You know what I like about Jonathan Majors In this and also other things He's like a Lasers? He can shoot blue lasers

He can shoot lasers That was good Yeah yeah Where he goes Run Creed And he was like Shooting lasers Yeah that was good

My Rolls Royce Yeah And he killed him straight away With that big laser Spoilers for Creed 3 by the way Because Michael B. Jordan was like I'm gonna go full anime on this Yeah Spoilers for Creed 3, by the way. Because Michael B. Jordan was like, I'm going to go full anime on this. Yeah. Yeah.

And if my character must die immediately from a super Kamehameha blast. Through the chest. Then I guess that's the way it's got to go. You do that shot where you think he's fine and then you're like, you pan down and you see the villain through the hole in his chest. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's good stuff. Yeah.

Vegeta, avenge me. And then he does. He does. He has to. Yeah. Jonathan Majors, he's got this kind of natural, I don't know, maybe it's just maybe it's because it's real, like a real weird rhythm and energy and awkwardness to him.

Right. Which I like, I should point out as well. It's not like off-putting. He feels like real in the way he interacts. I've seen that. And it's not just in this. It's in other things as well. I'm not saying even that he's playing the same characters because he's not.

But I don't know what he's doing. You know what he's doing? He's not doing the Marvel rhythm is what he's doing ultimately. He's not just waiting for somebody to deliver a line so he can drop a quip on him. Maybe that's it. It feels like he's actually having a conversation with another human being. And he's like thinking about or has thought about what he's going to say.

Yeah. No, I really like him. So that's cool. Yeah. Anyway, I thought this movie was really good. I liked it too, mate. It's not flawless, I don like him. So that's cool. Yeah. Anyway, I thought this movie was really good. I liked it too, mate. It's not flawless, I don't think. But this is also, I think we've mentioned this in previous weeks,

this is the directorial debut of Michael B. Jordan. So he's directed this and I think you can tell if you know his background as a big weeb. Yeah, absolutely. He just loves anime. He very purposefully put a bunch of stuff in this in the fights, which is anime. And there's even a bunch of stuff in this in the fights, which is anime. And there's even a moment where he gets hit in the stomach

and it's that like eyes bug out kind of bent over kind of. Then you see the camera cuts to sort of behind his back. Yeah. You feel like the energy of the punch has gone all the way through him. Yeah, it's like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of thing. Lost my voice there, Mason.

It's like when, you know, like Gohan punched Cell or whatever. Oh, yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah. That's good stuff. Yeah, Dragon Ball. Z, Cell Saga. Anyway, Mason.

Yes. So I liked all those anime influences. I think there was a dynamism to these fights, which, like, how do you do boxing differently? Now, you, because I, I didn't see Creed 2 before this. Yeah.

You watched Creed 2 immediately before this. How's the boxing? I really like Creed 2. And what I like about it is bringing back Drago and you got the two Drago brothers coming back for revenge. I like that a lot, but there's some fighting in that. Ivan and Marvin. Ivan and Marvin,

where, especially in like the big arena, it does, it does feel like they're not really there at times, but the lighting doesn't quite work. Whereas this, they kind of lean into the surrealness of the ring, especially in the last fight. And there's a moment where, and this isn't really a spoiler,

where everything just like, there's nothing. Fades away. There's no crowd. There's no noise. And it's just them. It's not even, there's no music. There's no anything. It's just sort of them squeaking on the ring and punching each other.

Yeah. I think there's some good touches to this. Which I thought was great because it felt, you know, that it really sort of epitomized they're just two men alone in this. Yeah. Nobody's helping them. Nobody's really helping them. I mean, they're a helpful team.

Sure. But they're not even listening. Even if they are yelling and stuff, they can't. Yeah. They're very focused. Because we're feuding helpful team. Yeah, sure. But they're not even listening even if they are yelling stuff. They can't. Yeah, yeah. They're very focused. Because we're feuding. Yeah. Yeah, sure, I should listen to you guys, but I've got a feud to take care of.

I think there are a few things that happen like along this franchise where they make the boxing, they kind of change it up a bit. I know in the original one it's kind of like, you know, they get kind of more ridiculous as they kind of go, I think, in a good way. Like when you get to like Drago and whatever, it's just really like outlandish. And then when they do Rocky Balboa, the start of that fight that he has at the end, it's initially filmed like a pay-per-view event. Do you remember that?

It's like, it's like you're watching it on TV and that's how the first like two to three rounds kind of play out. And then it kind of switches to like your camera's in the ring. And I think I remember I think it was the first Creed. They should do cameras in the ring in a real boxing match. Sure, yeah, why not? And mid-fight interviews. Yes.

As it's happening. Yeah. And it should be just little kids maybe holding cameras. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. But I was going to say in Creed there's like a lot of one shot or at least one at least the original creed like one shot kind of fighting takes you know and the camera like is in the ring and like just moves around them and you see them pop in and out of frame and it's really well

choreographed and i think this was again like we mentioned like a really interesting way of doing it i also liked how they were fighting in the crypto.com arena they really at some point creed 3 brought to you by hennessy brand whatever it is whatever it was yeah i also like that um creed is old now because he would be yeah at this point i mean considering that he's apollo creed son, they're already kind of pushing the timeline on that. Right, uh-huh. So he'd have to be at least mid-30s, late-30s at this point. Sure, yeah. So I guess he's about that. He's a has-been now.

He's a has-been, yeah, absolutely. So he's retired for a lot of this and then has to come back to do some big boxing. I don't know if you remember, Mason. Oh, I remember. But, yeah, I think seeing the life cycle of this, of like a fighter, like you mentioned that, I thought that was really good, where they just didn't go,

yeah, he's still the champ and he's still whatever. He was out. Well, there is a moment quite early on when Michael B. Jordan's talking to Tessa Thompson, his wife, and he's like, oh, you want a bit of this? You want a bit of this? And he lifts his shirt to be like, I'm so pudgy, whatever. But you don't see it, obviously. Because it's like, no, he's obviously unbelievably ripped all the time. Yeah, he shirt to be like, I'm so pudgy, I'm whatever. But you don't see it, obviously.

No. Because it's like, no, he's obviously unbelievably ripped all the time. Yeah, he has to be. There was probably a moment on set where they're like, how do we do this? Like the director of photography is like, how do we do this? How do we make him look fat? Do we get a stunt gut?

Do we get a stunt gut? Do we get a stunt gut and he lifts his shirt and then it cuts to like a Ren and Stimpy weird. Like a hair sticking out of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like goop coming out of his belly button. Just a real gross close-up. What do you think of this?

Yeah. Ugh! I also thought I liked the focus in this of his family with Tessa Thompson and his daughter. I think the idea that his daughter is hearing impaired, that could have been nothing or they couldn't have not really touched on it and whatever, you know, because you see like Rocky's son kind of in the original movies.

It's kind of weird the way he kind of weaves in and out of them. Milo Ventimiglia. Yeah, then he becomes Milo Ventimiglia. Which is Milo 20,000, I think. Wow, that's really good. Milo 20,000. That's right. Yeah, that's great. You could start is Milo 20,000, I think. Wow, that's really good. Milo 20,000. That's right. Yeah, that's great.

Could start a rap career with that name, I feel. And so they don't drop that idea and you also see that his daughter has that same kind of like that fight in her that he has. Yeah. I thought she was really good. I agree. A young lady, her name is? Little B. Jordan. No. Mila davis kent yeah as amara creed

yeah i thought she was very good yeah there was a good good family dynamic good family yeah i thought yeah and the fact that they looked at like what tessa thompson's they didn't just ignore what tessa thompson's character had been through she wasn't just like i don't know i'm creed's wife or whatever sure there is a bit of that in this, definitely Where her hearing impairment has evolved as well To the point where she can't perform anymore And she is obviously missing that Thank God Well, I never thought she was great, Mason

Having watched the second one recently She does a better song in the second one Okay, right, right, right Because I was always like, this isn't good, is it? It's hard to how do you make like a party well exactly it's the it's that that uh we've talked about that like what is the in whenever you watch a movie where it's like oh my god this they've made a hit song like yeah and you hear the song you're like is that actually any good kind of thing like

there's a moment in this where they go to a like a record label party yeah and the latest discovery is there yeah and and she sings a song and i'm like yes i don't know sure pretty auto-tuned i thought whatever you reckon that's fine yeah yeah i'm just here for the free canapes so um but yeah that was uh i think yeah it was good that they explored that and just like what what is her life what has it looked like and now it's kind of her opportunity to, you know, Vaheer can step back a bit and she can, you know, live more of her kind of dream and truth. Dream and truth.

Dream and truth. And also one of the Dragos is back, one of the Drago brothers. Victor Drago. Don't message me I know they're not brothers. I just like the idea that they're brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder whether Dolph Lundgren wasn't in it like out of loyalty to Stallone. Yeah. Because he's a fighter in this, like he's still a contender.

God, he looks like Zangief, that dude. He does. Yeah. But it's – so he's now like – he's helping out whatever and they do some training sessions with him. I thought it was interesting to bring him back and now they were fighters and enemies and now they're just like, yeah, we're mates.

We did this thing and now we're mates. Well, I mean, isn't that classic with Rocky and Apollo and the robot? The robot. Paulie and the robot. Paulie and the robot. Paulie and the robot. Because they initially hated each other and then before they're married. That's right, exactly.

Okay, criticisms. Yep. I thought the pacing was a little bit weird. In what sense? I feel like it felt to me like there was some missing pages. I think we'll talk about it in spoilers. But it felt like a character sort of wildly changed characterisation just in the span of a minute and then maybe change back later.

Yeah, okay, yeah. I think I know what you're talking about, yeah. I'll talk about it in spoilers. But, I mean, beyond that, here's the thing, though. I think the performance, like the two lead performances, Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan Majors, I thought they were a great pairing and I think they worked really well. Every scene they were in, which is many of the scenes,

worked well together, especially the last scene, which I'll talk about in spoilers again yeah which I thought was terrific I agree should we do spoilers now then? yeah I'm gonna say

best movie ever I'm gonna say best movie ever I think if you like these movies then yeah and you like big anime punches pretty good one what a good run that these movies have had

like the worst one is like 5 worst one is 5 yeah I don't think I've seen it I've seen like clips of it but um they're all pretty good I agree yeah like good or better than good that's something that is something even if you don't think I've seen it. I've seen like clips of it, but they're all pretty good. Like great, yeah. Like good or better than good.

That's something. That is something. Even if you don't like boxing. Yeah, absolutely. I think if you really like boxing, maybe you don't like this because it's probably unrealistic to boxing. Yeah, sure. I don't know.

Because I know Original Rocky just like he just leads with his face. Yeah, but they didn't know how to film anything then, James. They didn't know how to film anything then, James. They didn't know how to film anything. It was just a long, it was the most rocky one, if you remember, James, is him walking down a corridor. He picks up a telephone. Hello. Oh, I've got the big fight.

Yeah. And then it cuts to the end and he's like, I lost, but I had a good time. It's a newspaper. I'm in it. Yeah. I'm in the newspaper. How do you do it? I'm in the newspaper.

Rocky, you know I can't read. Yeah, but look at the picture. Oh. I love you, Rocky. Shut up. Nobody asked you. Anyway, that's us remembering Rocky 1. Nobody asked you Anyway That's us remembering Rocky 1

I think also looking at what they did with Tessa Thompson in this Are we in spoilers? What's going on? Sure, but I think if you look back at like Talia Shire You probably could have done more with that character along the way Who's that? Adrienne? Adrienne, yeah Is that her name? Yeah

Because she's a good actor yeah and i think they just and then in the sixth one they're just like yeah she's dead i don't know yeah yeah what do you reckon well she got kamehameha through the chest so i guess so yeah that'll do it yeah tell your shot yeah cool uh mason let's do spoilers big time spoilers now at the end of the movie he beats up damien dam. Damien's like, I'm a bad guy. And he goes, well, I'm going to have to beat you up in front of everybody. You need to learn a lesson. I'm going to beat you up in public for millions of dollars,

which is the only way this possibly could have gone down, I think. Yeah, I guess. You've got to buy into that premise. If you don't really, if you're like, well, they could have just talked this out and not had a big boxing. It's true. Well, too bad. Too bad indeed.

So I assume you're talking about Jonathan Majors' turn? Well, he feels like a more complicated – and look, I guess you could say, okay, well, he's euphoric because – okay, so if you haven't seen it and you're still listening for some reason, Adonis wants to help out Dame and, you know, Dame wants a title because he's been in prison for 18 years. And he's an older fighter now. Yeah, yeah. And they're like, well, how can we make this happen?

But one of the boxing champs that Creed is mentoring, he doesn't have anybody to fight. Yeah. Because he's beaten everybody and there's no time for a new new contender right and they're like i bet you could definitely find a guy just yeah yeah and they're like listen we'll get we'll get one of the drago brothers in yeah but then he he gets one of his hands uh smashed to bits by a by an assailant and so they're like how about we bring jonathan mages in he'll fight it'll be a little exhibition match or whatever it is and you'll beat him

obviously and then we can make it like, you know. Fun. It's like original Rocky. You bring in an underdog and whatever. And anyway, Dame absolutely paced this guy. Yeah, but doing cheats. A cheat? He put cheat codes on.

I feel he did one cheat. He did a few things. Like he held him, I think he held him at one point. See, if I knew more about the rules of boxing. I know he put an elbow in. Yeah, and he threw an elbow in his face which yeah yeah yeah but if you hit someone with like this part of you yeah like that you you could like knock someone out that's what i mean like if you hit someone like that like you could yeah you really fuck them up yeah don't do that i say i'm all. Yeah, that's right. They do it all the time.

I love it there. Yeah. But, yeah, so, yeah, and it's a – well, I mean, if I am critical of anything, it's probably like there was this huge uproar because he did win mostly by punching this guy in the face, which I feel is fair game to do. Sure. So they're like, what's – this is unheard of kind of thing.

And I'm like – Stop it. Well, what did you think? I mean, there was a somewhat decent chance this would happen. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But then Dame sort of has this heel turn where he's like, he's all like, I'm the king of.

I broke that dude's hand. Yeah, but I did it. I'm a big time bad boy and ha, ha, ha, and I'm sucked in idiots kind of thing. And I'm like, wasn't he kind of a wounded kind of – wasn't he kind of an emotionally wounded man who was just trying his best for a minute and then it's like, actually he's a big-time villain?

I think he's both. Yeah, I think so. I think that's kind of what I liked about it where there was that element of like you never really hate him. Yeah. Like he's just a wounded man. And I guess he was sort of like – I guess you could blame some of it, not the beating up the guy with the hammer or whatever,

but like the euphoria of like, well, you've got this big victory and so of course you're out celebrating and if somebody came at you and was like, hey, I think you didn't fight fair, you would. Yeah. You know, you would say some harsh words perhaps. My favourite part of that scene where uh creed comes and confronts uh dame on the beach is that even though creed is out of shape he can just lay out a civilian with one punch yeah yeah like somebody comes at him and he's like well i'm gonna knock this guy

out clang i did yeah i did i did it pretty good no you're right because like anyone with like even like the most basic fight training could could be like a normal person very easily, you know, and he was a pretty good boxer, wasn't he, by all accounts? One of the best. Yeah, he's got two movies about him prior to this movie. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Didn't you watch my other two movies?

Didn't you watch that on Kid Cam where little kids are in the ring and have to dodge haymakers? Didn't you watch that? This way, Mr. Creed. Clang. Ow. My sweet little face. Because, you know, one of the things that Dame and also Creed is good at,

it seems like, and they don't explicitly point it out, but like focus, sometimes they do, but focusing on someone's weak points. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And one of them you see early in Dame's first fight, he takes out his mouth guard and there's this jarring, like, pain, like he has, like, something wrong with his mouth. He got a tooth knocked out. Yeah, that's what I meant.

Yeah, so I thought that would come back more, where that would be, like, a thing that he focused on. Adonis, punch him in his wounded face. But I thought, like, maybe, like, having that dental. He's got a glowing weak spot in his wounded face. But I thought like maybe like having that dental. He's got a glowing weak spot in his mouth now. You should punch that. Do you know what I mean though? Hit his shield three times and it'll disappear

and then hit his glowing weak spot and then repeat that three times. He'll send out some little guys you'll have to take care of. That's right. No, don't hit us, Mr. Creed. Ow. Ooh. Do you know what I mean by that? Yeah, I guess.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he was, like, also focusing on Creed's, like, injuries over the years. That's true. So they've made his injuries strengthened and all of that thing. I liked also, I think Creed's mum is great. And she's dead now, though. Yeah, well.

But that doesn't preclude her coming back in potential sequels. I mean, flashbacks, obviously, or you put her in the brain of a robot. That's true. Holly's old robot. I mean, flashbacks, obviously, or you put her in the brain of a robot. That's true. Holly's old robot. I'm never coming to visit. I'm never coming to live here, Creed. I'll never do it. I want to be my own woman.

I'm still independent even though I'm old. Mum, you're just an algorithm in a computer now. Well. Yeah, well. I don't know what that means. Well, put the laptop back in my house then. What do you think the future of this is going to look like? That's a great, great question.

Because I think there's a few things. Well, I was going to say just before we get into that, the last scene. So after. Oh, yeah, sorry. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the first, the last fight, obviously, tremendous. Yeah. When Dame and Creed punch each other simultaneously that's the fun that's

the that's the end point i remember when apollo and rocky go to punch each other and it's like what was going to happen there well they'd punch each other in the head quite frankly rocky six yes stallone has that painting i think oh yeah like they're punching each other and it's like who painted this yeah did you have to recreate this and they took a photo? I know it was in the credits of that movie, but how does that work? Yeah, right? For this. Yeah, anyway, go on, though.

You were saying? I love the movie. I love the movie. I'm lucky. But who's running his restaurant? I guess he is. Might be Marlon Ventimiglia. Maybe, but he lives in Boston or whatever.

I can't remember. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so the end scene, though. The end scene, though, they're both in the locker room just by themselves. Creed's like, boy, I really humiliated you there. Yeah, yeah, for millions of dollars. I hope you learned your lesson. And Jonathan Majors is like, yeah, you kind of did.

But I also got millions of dollars, presumably. I think that's probably how this fight works. You have more millions of dollars. We got all that Hennessy sponsorship, I think. Where did we? At crypto.com stadium. We're both doing very well. We insisted they pay us in cash, not crypto.

That's a good idea. Because the crypto was worthless. They told us that. They're like, by the way, the crypto is worthless. Can't believe they were that honest. But I thought that was a very affecting scene. Yes. When they talk, in some of this movie, and we talked about this just before,

how about Rocky's like, this goes to some dark places. I don't know if it does go to some dark places, but I think it was nice to just see, you know, Creed is this guy who is trying to open up, but he's got this past where, you know, him and his friend were beaten up in a group home, and they had a rough time of it, and he just wants to move past it, but his wife would prefer him to talk about it.

And it's just these two men who have a lot to say and there's this scene where they say a lot with the limited kind of communication tools they have and a lot with their faces and their expressions and all that stuff. And I just thought it was good acting. I agree. I stood up in the Gold Class cinema with me and no one else. I was completely empty. It was literally just you.

It was literally, it was 11 a.m. Oh, yeah, fair enough. But I'm like, acting, I said. Did you do that? No, I didn't, but I thought I would. Because what if somebody saw you? Embarrassing for me, right? I watched the movie, as you know, so everybody's always watching.

I did think it was weird. The last time I went to Gold Class was for Rambo Last Blood. Oh, my God. And initially I'm like, wow, Stallone's got my money both times, but it turns out just for Last Blood. Thank God. This one, nothing. Not a cent to Stallone.

What if it was waiting for you? Would you just see just now? I know you're so crazy. Or as I call it, Rocky. Maybe nine. I call it Rocky nine, I think. Anyway, put your money in a bucket. Brought a bucket.

I don't have any money. I've only got a card. People say that a lot these days. Thanks. You're leaving? Yeah. I'm a walkie-talkie ATM. Sliced alone?

No. You're so rich sliced alone. It's the principle of the thing. This is the party where we punch each other? Yes. Because my life's a movie. Anyway, what were we talking about? I've forgotten.

That was a good scene. I thought it was a great scene. I thought it was weird. He's like, why don't you go celebrate with all the people who love you? And then he's like, okay. Yeah, I kind of thought the only- I thought he was going to be like- The lead down was like, maybe come hang out with my- Hang out with us.

I thought maybe they were going to go out together or something like that. Yeah, just like old times. Go beat up a guy at a 7-Eleven. Just like old times. The guy comes out of the 7-Eleven. He's like, oh, no! And they just lay into him with their decades of professional boxing experience. Every punch is a kill.

And they hit him so many times. Da-da-da, da-da-da. Da-da-da, da-da-da. No Rocky theme, though. And they hit him so many times. No Rocky theme, though. Was there not in the credits? I don't think so, no. Wait. I thought there was. I might be confusing with Creed, too.

Well, there certainly wasn't any in the movie itself. Yeah, that's probably true. They've moved on from the Rocky theme. Do we get a Creed theme? There is a Creed theme. I don't know it, though. There is one, yeah. Okay, all right it, though. There is one, yeah. Okay, all right.

Anyway, the future of Mason. Yes. So they could have his daughter. I think that would be way down the line, though. That would be at least 10 years, probably longer away. Unless they give Tessa Thompson and Michael B. Jordan old man makeup. That's true. Both old man makeup.

Old man makeup, yeah. Both have long Fu Manchu mustaches. That's right, yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that would be interesting of like what would a female boxing movie like do and with also – Women. Yeah, women, but also like a hearing impairment as well.

Sure, yeah, yeah. I think that could be something interesting to be done with that. How do you sign with gloves on? Great question. Isn't it though? Yeah, you just do a lot of nodding, I'd imagine. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's interesting that she does have that anger kind of in her.

Like Apollo, the original Creed had it and then his son and so on and so forth. There seems to be a trend with these boxes. Yeah. Anger and then violence. I forgot because he had two other kids as well apparently. That's mentioned. Oh, the other kid. Apollo.

Yeah, because his mum in this is not his real mum because he's like the child of an affair. Yes. I don't know if you remember that from the first movie. Not that it's super relevant, but it's in the movies. Okay. So do you think it might be Creed's daughter fights her extended family? Interesting. Yeah, right?

No, I don't think they're going to do that. I think they're just going to do another Creed movie. You think so? I think that will be the next move. It will be Creed does another Creed movie. Do you think so? Yep. I feel like this was a quite effective capper for the-

They're all effective cappers. They are, aren't they? Every single one of these movies is the end of the franchise. Yeah, but also you could do Rocky's grandson if you wanted to. Like he would be probably the same age as around, maybe a bit older than Creed's daughter. So you could do something with that. Yeah, right.

Maybe they fall in love. You'll have a boxing match. Rematch Rocky and Creed. All gender boxing match in the future. That's right So yeah I don't know I think we're going to get I didn't get the sense at the end of this that he was retiring either

It wasn't like well now you've learnt your lesson I'm going to stop I don't know But he could go back into retirement But I didn't get the sense that he was like I'm definitely done with this at this point Really? I don't know

I don't think it was answered at all. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. He could do more potentially. Yeah, maybe. Maybe there should have been a scene where he just leaves the locker room and he's like, oh jeez. That's all I had left of me, honestly. It was really exhausting, actually. That's... Yeah.

Yeah. I'm going to go home and sleep. You may not have to read our daughter a story did you see what I just did see what I just did I got hit in the head so many times I got hit in the head so many times anime style ridiculous

what do you mean Stallone standing outside the change room with a bucket what do you mean like the actor yeah you did some of my punches my life is a movie and I got it in this movie What do you mean? Like the actor? Yeah. You did some of my punches. My life is a movie and I got in this movie. I got into it. You did four of my trademark punches.

I designed those punches. You're going to pay me for the punches. Anyway, good movies. That was good movies. All in all. I can't wait for next Creed in four years or whatever. I mean, look, I'm – He could mentor another person. He could mentor another person.

But then is it like – I guess so. Like, I mean, if I were to see a proper continuation of this series, I think it would be that. It would be Creed takes the Rocky role and he mentors another guy. Or girl. True. In fact, if anything, it probably would be a woman. Yeah.

Because otherwise it's just retreading the same ground as last time. It also has to be somebody connected to somebody in these films. Yeah, right. I don't think it can really be. I know Stallone wants to make, he talked about that as well, make a new Rocky movie where he mentors like a new guy, like a brand new guy. A baby.

Yeah, a baby, yeah. You've got to fight with the most brand new guy there is. Your footwork is dog shit, mate. I don't know why he's Australian. He's not allowed to for copyright reasons. He's got to be Australian Rocky now. Rocco. Yeah, he wasn't allowed to for copyright reasons. He's got to be Australian Rocky now. Rocco. Yeah, he wasn't allowed to make that.

He wanted to make another one where, yeah, a new boxer and whatever, and he can't. Okay. So, yeah, I don't know. Well, I reckon probably in upcoming weeks there'll probably be an interview with Michael B. Jordan and they'll be like, they'll ask all these questions and they'll be like, what's next? So I'm really excited to hear that.

But I feel like, I don't know. I'd be okay if they just stopped. Yeah, I mean. For like a decade at least. I guess the two issues is obviously there's money on the table for sequels. Yeah, especially if this one has done the best ever, it seems. Well, there you go, yeah. But also, again, I felt like it was a, you know, it's a trilogy and it's done.

But, you know, we're making the money. We're making the money. The money gesture. And remember, Rocky 2 was just Rocky again, but he won. That's true, yeah. So, you know. Yeah, yeah. That's how these things go.

Yeah. Yeah. Is that what Jaws 2 was? Jaws again, but the shark won? Maybe, yeah. I'm pretty confident that's what happened. Yeah. Cool.

All right, should we move it along? Put your insides in this bucket. Just put them in the bucket. Put all your guts and stuff in there. Send me the trouble. I don't even like human guts. We don't even like them that much. We just take a bite and we leave.

But if you could do that, if you could put your guts in the bucket. Send me a little bit of time. What are we going to do next? We're talking what we're reading and what we're going to read. I believe you. I'm doing the thing. what we're reading and what we're going to read. I believe you.

I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? We're here in this segment of the podcast. And this is the part where we talk about what we did. That's right. What? What are we reading? Oh.

I'm watching it, whatever. Well, on your recommendation, James, I watched, it's a movie from last year, but I watched Emily the Criminal. And what did you think? With Aubrey Plaza as the titular Emily the Criminal. I really liked it. It's good. It's a good movie. It's very tense.

It's got shades. It's so powerfully tense. Yeah, Theo Rossi is his name. Yeah, he's very good. I think he was in Sons of Anarchy and some other stuff, but we know him as Shades from the TV series Luke Cage. That's right. Where everybody was always like, Shades.

Shades. He was like, yeah, I'm wearing shades, what of it? That's me. That's right. Got any questions? Yeah, where did you get your nickname? What? Your nickname Shades.

Mm-hmm. How did you get that nickname? How did I get it? Yeah. It's a great question. Thanks for asking. Yeah, well, I am asking, yeah. Yeah, I know, and I appreciate that is what I'm saying to you.

Okay. Now, you seem to be avoiding the question. I'm thinking maybe because the answer is embarrassing for you somehow. Yeah. Well, look. Like, I mean, the obvious answer would be because you wear shades all the time. But the fact that you haven't answered it. Yeah, no, that is why.

Yeah. Now that you mention it, that's correct. It's not a weird reason. It's a normal reason. Your reason. My correct. It's not a weird reason. It's a normal reason. Your reason. My reason. It's my reason as well. Okay.

Thanks for your time, Shades. You're welcome. Wow. Normal conversations happening in real time. Mason, what did you think? Is it because you got your dick stuck in a lampshade? Yes, I did. That's why I knew it.

Touche. Touche. More than once I knew it because otherwise you'd think that would be shade. I knew it. I got you and you're going to jail. What? For all the crimes you did. Oh, yeah.

You did a lot of crimes. Yeah, I related to that weird thing. The dick thing, yeah. Cool, cool. Emily the criminal for me had like uncut gems kind of vibes in terms of like, oh, this is very tense, isn't it? So tense. Yeah.

So for people who haven't seen it, so she is a sort of a struggling young lady. Yep. Doing some shift works. Yeah, she's doing some various shift works and she's unhappy, but then somebody's like, hey, you talked to him. Go to this. Talk to Shades. Talk to Shades.

Send a text to this number and they'll help you out. Ask him about his show. Ask him his nickname. That's right. Just a little hint. Yeah, yeah. It's very cool. The answer's very cool.

And it's a sort of this somewhat organized crime situation where they're like, hey, just take this credit card. We've made you this card. Go in the store and buy a thing. Yep. And then just leave with the thing and in the store and buy a thing. Yep. And then just leave with the thing and we'll take it and we'll pay you. Easy, easy, easy, easy. Easy done it.

Yeah. And it sort of escalates and it's, boy, it's tense. Yeah. Boy, is it. There's fun little tense heists in it. But like, I don't want to say low stakes, but there's the stake of like someone could just really badly beat you up or kill you. Yeah, yeah.

Or you could get arrested for blasphemy or whatever it is. For all your crimes and whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I thought it was terrific. Yeah, it's, you know, it's a movie where it's not the world is at stake. But if you are the one person in this, you know, if you're the center of your own world and like you're trying to make ends meet and do all this sort of stuff. But you could go to prison for this. Yeah, absolutely.

Aubrey Plaza's really good as well. And really, like, terrifying in moments as well. Yeah, yeah. Which I really liked. That's good stuff, Mason. What have you been reading or watching? Well, I finally finished watching all the Scream movies. Oh, yeah.

Because next week or this week. I bet I don't have time to watch them all, but I'll give it a crack. That's fine. So we've got, though this newest one has I think someone from every movie, even 4, which is like the one that nobody remembers. Why not? Well, it's interesting.

Next week we're going to do Scream 6 and we're going to do the movie 65, which I cannot wait. Two good movies, I reckon. Two of the best. But Scream 4 is the one, the first three are like a trilogy. Yeah. Like they're very clearly like set in the same era of like horror movies

and they're aping a certain like era of horror movies and genre or whatever. And the newest one is like they talk a lot about like high concept horror like the Babadook and whatever. When you say the newest one, do you mean 5? Yeah, 5. So it's like elevated horror and they talk a lot about that and how horror has changed and now it's not enough to just have someone just kill a bunch of people.

It's got to be a metaphor. It's like this is about trauma. Whatever. And they talk about how like Rian Johnson ruined the franchise with his ribbon and whatever. Oh. Yeah, it's very meta. That's good stuff.

4 is set in that weird, it's almost like standalone even though it's got like other characters in it, but it's set in that weird, it's almost like standalone, even though it's got other characters in it, but it's set in this era of where they were just clean rebooting everything. Oh, yeah. And so it was like they did the new Freddy Krueger movie, the new Halloween movie. So it's like that level of meta commentary for that really specific era. Because was Halloween 4 the one where it wasn't even about Michael

Myers anymore? It was about weird masks or something? That might have been. But they rebooted Halloween again in the mid-2000s. With Rob Zombie. Yeah, exactly. And they did the same thing with Freddy Krueger. And they did sort of a thing

reboot, but sort of a prequel or whatever. And they even talk about that in like the latest one, 5, before this new one where they acknowledge in that that now it's like legacy sequels. It's not a clean reboot anymore. You bring back originals and whatever. Yeah, anyway, I think they're all good in their own way. Like they vary in quality obviously.

How are the haircuts? Love it. Love all of it. Good. I think like it's probably like one and two and five

at the moment are probably the best ones but yeah but again there's something in all of them so that's what I've been doing

that's terrific if you can watch them you should I'll give it a whirl is there Stan maybe would you they are on Stan

because they're an iconic series and there's also a TV series which is unrelated which I haven't watched. Oh? Yeah. If I had to skip some.

You'd probably skip four. Okay, right. But that's the twist, isn't it? Because probably six has a guy from four in it. He's a linchpin of the whole thing. And they're like, ha-ha, you skipped four. And it's very meta because he was the most important guy. Ha.

Absolutely. But they're all in continuity. They're all in continuity, yes. I don't know if you remember, there's a lady cop who gets murdered in 5 and she's introduced in 4. Because when I saw that movie, I'm like, I don't remember this woman at all. Ah, I see.

Because I only remember the original ones or even 1 and 2 even. I only remember the original ones or even one and two even. But yeah, Hayden Panettiere, who's in four, comes back in this newest one as well. Which is Italian for Hayden, one of those cakes you get at Christmas. Panettone. Yes. Those alcoholic cakes or whatever they are. Yeah.

I like them. They're good. They're pretty good. What else have you been doing, Mason? Well, the final issue of Human Target, issue 12, written by Tom King and illustrated by Greg Smallwood, is out, but I haven't read it yet. Is it a good series as of so far?

I think it's good. I should read that. Some people are hot and cold on Tom King, I think. I haven't loved everything. But we read that Superman comic up in the sky, which I got a hardcover of. Yeah, really good. Oh, did you?

I'm like, I'm going to get a paper copy of this. I like it so much. Can I have it? No. Not to borrow. Very mine. To keep. Oh, then yes, absolutely.

Thank you. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Cool. I live to give. But yeah, I think it's good. It's sort of, I've mentioned it before, but it's sort of, it's Christopher Chance, the human target, the master of disguise. He's got to solve his own murder.

He's got 12 days to live and he's got to figure out who done it. And he's got to – and it's the 90s, I think. Yeah. He's crossing paths with all the Justice League International, all the wacky ones from back in the day. What about Mulleted Superman? No, Mulleted Superman isn't in it. But there's a great Batman issue.

Spoiler alert, Batman's not in. Oh, okay. But it's sort of isn't in it. But there's a great Batman issue. I don't want to hear about it. Spoiler alert, Batman's not in. Oh, okay. But it's sort of this exercise in paranoia where he's like, where he's like, well, Batman knows I'm tracking down members of the Justice League, so he's probably following me. And it's just this exercise in paranoia where he's like, well, obviously he's, I'm going to do this, but he would know about that.

And I'm like, I'm the master of disguise, but he can see through disguise. Is that him? Yeah. Kind of thing. It's a great single issue, I think. But you should probably – it'll be in trade, I don't know. Soon-ish.

Soon-ish, probably. I'll read that. I also watched the first episode of The Mandalorian. Oh, yeah, that's back, isn't it? Which I like, but it very much felt like an episode of like, look, we know you didn't watch the Book of Boba Fett. We know you all didn't. So he goes back to the armourer and he's like, can I come back?

And she's like, I told you you've got to go to Mandalore and bathe in the waters of Mandalore, idiot. Get out of here. He's like, oh, fuck, all right. How long do you think it's going to be until he reunites with that Grogu character? And then he pops out of the ship at the back. Remember he came back in book of boba fett no you didn't watch it no we did a video i know i'm doing a bit of a joke oh you're doing a joke i'm doing a bit of a joke i didn't

recognize your jokes yeah yeah yeah few people do but one day i'm gonna cut through to the mainstream that'd be rad there's no there's no acknowledgement of that there's no like no yeah great i don't even know if they did it in the recap. Did you see? This is one bit of news, James. Did you see? Favreau was like, you know, actually the first two seasons of Mandalorian took place over like 40 years or something.

People were like, no, they didn't. No, he said Grogu trained with Luke for two years and people went insane. Yeah, right. And I think he walked it back in another. Well, Filoni apparently. The other producer of these shows was like, no, no, no. No, no, no.

No, no, no. Because also people were like, okay, well, if that's the case, then Mando was just wandering around without a ship for like two years just being like, boy, I wish I had a ship. I'm sad. I'm sad though. Yeah, I'm beginning to think that Pedro Pascal Is not in that show at all Oh yeah

They just acquired his He did the voice And they acquired his likeness I mean why would he be Right Because I know in the first season He's busy He's doing the last of us

Of course he is I know But in the first season He's busy being interviewed On red carpets Where they're like Here's some perverted stuff People said about you

On social media What about this What about this Thanks What about this? Thanks. Thanks, man. I'll take this in stride. Thanks. Yep.

You haven't watched The Last of Us yet, have you? No, I haven't yet. How are you going to watch all the Scream movies and The Last of Us and Episode 1 of The Mandalorian Season 3? And you've got to catch up on the Book of Boba Fett because you forgot. I'll watch them on multiple screens at the same time. Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll bring in several phones to the screening of Scream

and I'll watch the on multiple screens at the same time. I'll bring in several phones to the screening of Scream and I'll watch the previous Scream movies. Picture in picture, I'll watch two on one phone. That's a good idea. And I'll also watch The Last of Us and I'll have a couple of headsets in but I'll have a couple of things with open captioning on them and a couple of things I'll just have on the loudspeaker or whatever. Nice. It'll be fine.

I'll go to Gold Class and there'll be nobody else there. That's really good. And even if there is, I won't care. Except for still gold class and there'll be nobody else there. That's really good. And even if there is, I won't care. Except for Stallone with a bucket. Stallone will be there. That's right. You've got a lot of phones. Yeah.

You can give me a couple of your phones. Stallone, you probably have heaps of phones. Yeah, but what? It's principles. It's principles. Put your phones in the bucket. This guy. I don't like him.

Yeah, I don't like him either. I think he's a good actor, but I don't know. Maybe that's what he's doing. Oh, it's good acting. Yeah. Oh, well then that's fine then. Yeah, I think so. Anything else. I think he's a good actor, but I don't know. Maybe that's what he's doing. Oh, it's good acting. Yeah. Oh, well, then that's fine then. Yeah, I think so. Anything else or should we move it along?

Let's move it along to letters. Letters time, everyone. Letters. The classic one was letters, oh, letters. We love you, some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters.

You know, I like about recording so late? What's that? I've got to be up in like three hours. Oh, do you like that? I love that. What do you love about it? Because like in your position, I probably wouldn't like that. No, it's where we're different.

It's where we differ. Right, right, right. I feel like – I hustle and I rise and I grind. Yeah, yeah, because I like a lot of sleep, but you're suggesting you don't like – you hardly like sleep at all. That's right. Yeah, well.

Why sleep when you can learn? What are you learn just everything oh wow that's really good i'm making my way through most things so okay on multiple screens yeah you know listen to a podcast i just like i love the idea of a guy who's got multiple screens and he's like i'm learning this i'm learning about aristotle and i'm learning about listening to you and then the next day you're like what are you learning? He's like, I don't know. Name one thing. I couldn't tell you anything. Here's an email from Dominic. You can just email us

at weeklypanetpod.gmail.com. It's true. Or send us a tweet at hashtag weeklypanetpod. Yeah. And then they said Todd, don't do that. Oh yeah, this is about a bit of controversy, James, and we'd like your opinion on this. I don't know about this. Hey again, James and Maiso. I thought this subject might be of interest to you, as I know James likes the Corridor Crew.

I do. He's the guy who knows everything about anime. I do. I'm both of those people. The channel recently made an AI-generated video that turned our live-action performance into AI anime short and was followed up by a video titled, Did We Just Change Animation?,

which also talks about creative freedom and democratising animation. Unfortunately, these have caused much controversy and backlash as many people, fans, experts, and industry employees alike have called it out as stealing and ripping off the labor and creative work that goes into animation and would try to make them become obsolete. We'd like to know how you guys feel about it. Yeah, I think there's definitely, I think it's a,

I have seen the video and like the thought process behind the technology and the way it looks. I don't know if you've seen any of it. I have seen it. It looks good, right? From that perspective, I'm saying. Sure, yeah, yeah, right, right. I mean, like the fact that they can do stuff like that now.

It looks like the Castlevania. Yeah, exactly. And they're doing it off a budget of like, I know they have a budget, but they're not like a, they wouldn't have put like $5 million into this or whatever. So from that perspective, yeah, as a tech demo, it's really fascinating. But then on the flip side of that to have to have something look like that you need to feed it a bunch of ai well exactly the thing it's like all ai art it isn't it isn't generating it out of nowhere it is consuming other people's art yeah and depending

on the prompts you put in i guess or the algorithm you describe, it takes more from different people than others and, you know, people. This is like in the, I guess, the 80s when music sampling was coming to the fore where you could take a clip of some other people's music or whatever and put it in your own and there weren't really any rules in terms of like do you have to credit people, do you have to pay people. Yes. And then there were some very high-profile lawsuits and it turned out There weren't really any rules in terms of like do you have to credit people? Do you have to pay people? Yes. And then there were some very high-profile lawsuits and it turned out you did have to credit people

and you did have to pay people. You did have to credit people, vanilla ice. That's right, and MC Hammer, both of you guys. Oh, you know who I'm going to listen to? What's that? The old De La Soul's whole discography is on digital now. Oh, really? Because they were hit with some high-profile lawsuits back in the day.

And so they would never – their record label never put any of their stuff on streaming because they were like, well, what if there's some other stuff hidden in there that might get copyrighted hit basically. So they were sort of like a contemporary of the Beastie Boys because everybody knows the Beastie Boys but not a lot of people know Daylight Soul because you can't get this stuff. What was the reasoning behind that? I don't remember.

So back in the day, they had a couple of albums that were very heavily sample-based. So did the Beastie Boys. They had an album called Paul's Boutique, which was all samples, which you can't do these days because that would cost like $50 million. You'd never make your money back. But back in the day you could do that. Anyway, there were these big high-profile lawsuits

with MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice. And so everybody who'd done this, which included… Just looking up this discography now, Mason, yeah. But what happened with De La Soul is they also had a couple of albums that were very heavily sample-based. Sorry, I just played it through here. Oh, my goodness. We would have been, oof.

We would have gone to jail. But basically what happened, if I remember correctly, is they, what basically they and the Beastie Boys both did is went to all the record labels and were like, let's make deals on all this stuff. Let's sort it out as quickly as we can. What do you want, you know, et cetera. And De La Soul did it for all the songs on their album.

But crucially in that era, hip-hop albums had a lot of skits in them as well where it was like a little dialogue and a little bit of jokes and what have you. All this stuff has just gone up on their YouTube channel. Like it's – I mean they had stuff before that like they'd made. Yeah, yeah. That's really interesting. And basically one of the skits had a sample from you remember that band the turtles yeah well it wasn't that song but one of the skits had that in the background they had another song

and they didn't clear it because they didn't they didn't think that it was they didn't remember it was there basically and somebody from the turtles sued them for a lot of money and then they're like well what else could be in this album we like, well, what else could be in this album? We can't remember. What else could be in this? And so basically the record label's like, well, forget it. We're not touching it for years. But they've sorted it out apparently.

Oh, cool. There you go. A little, if people don't know De La Soul, listen to Three Feet High and Rising, which is a good album, I think. Maybe I will, Mason. But anyway, back to animes and stuff. Yeah, back to the various animes. Yeah, so we're in this era where they've got to sort this out

because a lot of, you know, and again, depending on the algorithm, what have you, some artists have looked at AI art and animation and all this sort of stuff and gone, that's literally my art. You can see that I made that and you've made, you know. Somebody probably just said, this picture but in the style of my name. Yeah, exactly. That's literally my art. Yeah. You can see that I made that and you've made, you know. Somebody probably just said this picture but in the style of my name. Yeah, exactly. That's right. So they're going to have to, the next few years I think is going

to be a lot of legal challenges and people figuring out what this is. But also like. I also, I don't think that video was, that wasn't an attempt to be like, look at this thing we can steal. Because they're also been very open about like paying creators properly and the the the how visual effects artists get like and stunt people get like crushed like monetarily for their work and whatever but yeah i think the i think an issue a lot of people do have is the the the notion that they're democratizing animation because i think yeah the thing about a lot of animators

is that they like, well, at the most basic level, you can get a little book and draw a little. It's easy. You just need a notepad and a pencil and you can do animation in a lot of ways or you can do it with an app or what have you. It's the idea that, well, if you can't make this commercial level of animation, you're not a real animator or whatever it is. Whereas, you know, you've got to start somewhere.

I think a lot of people, it shouldn't be this algorithm stuff. It should be, you know, the basic level. I think a lot of people have started. But, like, the idea that you could create your own particular style, feed that in, and then have that inform something through the AI that you made, you know what I mean? I think there is definitely a use for this. Right.

But just the idea of just being like just that guy's style. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, it's something, yeah, I think like you said something's going to happen or something's going to have to happen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But again, like as a tech demo.

That's true, yeah. Fucking incredible, like unbelievable. And just like, I don't want to say like the ease in which they did it because there was obviously a lot of thought and effort behind it, but the fact that they cracked this fairly quickly after this stuff started appearing. That's true. Is like pretty terrifying of what can be done.

Because they also, it's not dissimilar also from like rotoscoping in movies. Remember Scanner Darkly? It's like a Keanu Reeves movie. Yeah, with Richard Linklater made that one. Yeah, and there's a few other movies that are done in that style. Would that have all been by hand? It probably would have been, yeah. I don't know the specifics of it.

Wouldn't it be that guy? That guy? So, yeah, I don't know. We'll see. As long as podcasts are safe, mate. Oh, Daylight Soul is dead is on here. Oh, what a world. Are they dead? No, they're, well, actually just don't know. We'll see. As long as podcasts are safe, mate. Oh, Daylight Soul is dead is on here. Oh, what a world. Are they dead?

No, they were – well, actually, True Guy died. Anyway. Pretty cool. That album's got a ring-ring-ring on it, which is a great song. Great, great, great. Hey, how you doing? Sorry you can't get me. Imagine me.

And I'm back. There's something going down the back to you. Imagine me and you. Oh, no, James, no. The turtles are coming. This is from William Robinson. We're the turtles. We're the turtles.

We're going to buck it. Put your entire back catalogue in this bucket. William Robinson says, hashtag weekly planet pod. Hey, James and Mason, I hope you're well. My dad has rarely messaged me to ask about a film as much as he has for the upcoming 65 and it got me thinking. Oh, yeah. What do you think makes the quintessential dad film

and which other films spring to mind as examples? Thanks. Well, here's the thing. What? You don't know. That's true. It's up to the dad. But if I was going to generalise.

It would be a Patton movie about general Patton. Oh, that'll do it, won't it? That's more like our dad's generation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our generation of dads, yeah. What about a modern? You're a modern dad. I'm a modern dad, aren't I?

I skateboard. What if you didn't? I do magic tricks. All the stuff. If you didn't do this, like I guess you're an outlier because you have to see a bunch of stuff. Yeah. But if you didn't have to see anything, what would you watch?

What would be a dad movie for you? God, I think I would see 65. Yeah, right. But also, like, I don't know if I'd be able to wrangle anybody to see that with me. Right. And I'd be working full time. That's true.

So I probably just wouldn't see it. You'd see it on streaming maybe. Yeah, like eventually. I probably would see Scream. I'd probably go out of my way to see that maybe. With the modern dad movie. I probably wouldn't see ant-man three when you said when you said uh 65 that brought to mind to me like an independence day like i feel like it's akin to that kind of it has that same vibe to it i think yeah so is it is it

what you watched as a kid and like the modern version i think so yeah my dad loves like because he you know like he a, we went to boarding like a boarding school in the country and every Saturday they'd watch like a like a western or a war movie or whatever. And so he, like he'll, you know, he'll, every now and then he'll go and see one of those at the cinema. And I think it's just so he can come back

and go, that wasn't very good. And that all real. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That wasn't a real U-boat or something. That's true. You know? And maybe he's right. Yeah. That wasn't a real U-boat or something. That's true. And maybe he's right. Yeah. I don't know. What would you be saying if you weren't doing this?

And I know we're a dad. And in many ways, being a podcast has gotten in the way of me being a dad. That's true, yeah. That's the main impediment. Nothing else. I reckon like a Nolan. Yeah, okay. Any kind of Nolan.

That's interesting. Yeah. You'd be excited for Oppenheimer. I'd be excited. I mean, I'm not not excited for Oppenheimer. That's what I'm saying. I think my dad would be excited for Oppenheimer. Yeah.

Somebody said, you know how we've always talked about what is the Nolan twist for Oppenheimer? Yeah. What's it going to be? Because he won't just do a straight biopic of Oppenheimer. Yeah. Like what's it going to be because he won't just do a straight biopic of Oppenheimer. And I think somebody suggested when they were developing the nuclear bomb initially there was some speculation that if. Like incinerate the atmosphere. Yeah, if the calculations were incorrect and they were working off

like the wrong theory of atomic fission or what have you, that it could have ignited the atmosphere and killed everybody in the world. Maybe that's it. Okay, yeah. Maybe it's become some sort of post-apocalyptic thing where. They'll just hold their breath. It's an alternate future, an alternate past rather.

Oh, an alternate? Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. That's right. I've got a tweet here, Mason, from Abby who says, hashtag work your planet pod. One thing that bugged me about Ant-Man and the third Ant-Man

is that the real Ant-Man is actually Hank Pym, which is doing stuff with ants. Scott Lang is just a guy in a suit that makes him very small and very big and that makes him generic. I don't, I can't really disagree with that criticism. But I think, and maybe not so much in this movie but in the other ones, the appeal of Scott Lang is that, and it's in the comics as well, that he's an everyman kind of loser.

Yeah, right. And he's not a scientist guy. That's true. Because there is a lot of scientist guys in the MCU also. See, I would argue that if you're going to break it down that far, you could argue that of many characters. You could say, well, Iron Man's just a guy who flies around in a suit, but he's also an asshole.

It's true, yeah. And that's two things. It's two things, and that's a delight, and people enjoy that. So that's, you know, it's about, and I would argue. It's got to be a thing and a thing. It's a thing and a thing, but I think the strength of the Marvel Universe has always been and continues to be.

I agree. It's not about just the powers. There's got to be some character behind it. Yeah, I guess you can watch a guy. It's pretty cool. He's in an armoured suit and shoots missiles and stuff. Yeah. But, I mean, you know, if there's nothing behind that, you're not.

And it's that Owen Wilson director streaming one. Yeah, I live in a secret lab or something. Iron Man dad or whatever it is. Iron Man dad. That's right. What else you got, Mason? Ooh, great question. I've got one more.

Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. Nicole, who says, hashtag weekly planet pod. Since James at Mr. Sunday movies is an anime expert.

I wonder what his thoughts are on the new attack on Titan episode. Worth the wait? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. I think so. Big revelations.

Probably. It's been a long time coming. It's been many seasons at this point. I can't disagree with that. Yeah, but for me it's easier to keep up because I'm always, I know when there's a new one coming and I have that exact streaming service and I'm ready for it. I set aside the time in my day to reach for a new release of it.

And this one, I've got to say, you can see how it connects to the previous episodes. Oh, nice. That's how you do it. Yeah. That's how you do it in anime. Yeah. It's that Eastern philosophy, you know.

Yeah, that's right. You don't get it in Western animation. You don't. You know? You really don't. Yeah. So, yeah, that answers your question. Yeah, what I said.

That did thoroughly answer any questions I would have actually. So that's pretty. I've been in Nicole, but yeah, but you also. Alright, Mason, what else? James, here's an email. Oh, an email? From Emily, and she says my boyfriend loves your podcast. Yay! Hello, she says. I was wondering if you could give a shout out to my boyfriend who listens to your podcast

regularly. What's his name? His name is Maxfield. Maxfield? Which I think is a great name. Great. He told me you read writings at the end of your episodes and introduced me to you. He says he's been listening to you guys for years. How many? Just says years. So two.

And you think it's two? Yeah. All right. Email back in. Let us know. We're in a medium distance relationship, and whenever he makes the two-hour drive, he tells me how excited he is to listen to your podcast during it

since he purposefully waits to listen to each new episode when he comes to visit. Nice. Yeah. I love him very much, and I know he loves your show, so it would mean a lot if you included this in your next episode. So you love him, and he loves us, and then it ends. That's it, yeah, yeah.

That's the end of the line. That's right. As long as the love is coming to us, I think it's fine. And we absorb it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we move on with our day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great.

Well, happy birthday, Maxfield. Is it Max, last name Field? It's not his birthday. Maxfield, isn't it? Presumably at some point it will be his birthday. Happy birthday, Max Field. Is it Max, last name Field? It's not his birthday. It's Max Field, isn't it? Presumably at some point it'll be his birthday. Happy birthday, Max Field. Yeah, this is from whenever your birthday is. Yeah.

Yeah. You just, yeah, maybe save it till then. In fact, if Emily could, what I would recommend for Emily, listen to this episode first. Sure. And then remember when his birthday is and then stop him from listening to this episode until it's his birthday. In fact, stop him from listening to any episodes of this podcast.

Put your foot down. I'd be like, stop listening to this stupid podcast. Max, if you love me, you'll stop listening. It's me or the podcast, you can say. Stop listening. And then surprise. And then surprise, like in six months or whatever, after he hasn't listened to the podcast.

Be like, hey, listen to this podcast from March. Yep. A bit of a shout-out on there. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And you will still be together. That's right. I don't think so. After that six months. Yep. A bit of a shout-out on there. Exactly. Yeah. And you will still be together. That's right. I think so.

After that six months. Yes. Of you enforcing this rule. That's right. Fantastic stuff, Mason. I know. Anyways, thanks so much. I know it'll put a huge smile on his face from Emily.

So there you go. We're all about, James, we're all about putting a smile on your dial. We do. That's right. We make it happen. We guarantee it. We guarantee it. That's right. All your money back. Not your big sandwich money, obviously. No, that's ours. No, that's right. We'll make it happen. We guarantee it. We guarantee it. That's right.

Or your money back. Not your big sandwich money, obviously. No, that's ours. No, that's ours. We cannot give that back. We're physically incapable of giving that back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.

All right, Mason. That's the whole show, I think. I agree. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. We do. We do. Bloody, we thank you.

We appreciate you telling your friends about the podcast. And we appreciate you subscribing, and we appreciate you giving a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice. James, do you have any five-star reviews? Got two here. This is from Peach Dick who says podcast. Excuse me?

It's fine. And five stars. You can do it in that. Is this a shade situation? No. It says podcast, more like podcast, five stars. Nice. That's great.

And this is from Tony who says five stars also. Great podcast. One of the few podcasts I can listen to on a weekly basis. I've been listening for years, five stars. Nice. That's great. And this is from Tony who says, five stars also. Great podcast. One of the few podcasts I can listen to on a weekly basis. I've been listening for years, presumably two. Probably two years. And plan on keeping it up for years to come, presumably two more. Hosts have a great repertoire with each other. Oh, we've got a repertoire with each other.

I agree. And make it very, very approachable. Listen. Not much of a repartee, but we do have a repertoire together. Yeah. We also have an abattoir. We also have an abattoir. We do have an abattoir. We can't talk about that right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a Mr. Beast situation where we're doing some side hustles and stuff. Yeah. We're killing animals. Yep, that's basically it. We don't know what to do with it yet, but I mean we'll figure it out. We're amassing a really big pile though. Yeah.

Hopefully we'll, you know what, we will definitely figure out what to do with it before it all spoils. I agree. Yeah, yeah. What about some kind of pile of dead animals to the moon or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or we could sell possum meat to McDonald's. There's a lot of possums.

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