The Weekly Planet - 476 CinemaCon 2023 & Superhero Showdown!

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

Cinemacon 2023 brings us news of the biggest Batman movie of all time with The Flash, Transformers: Rise Of The Beats, Dune II, Kraven Man Of The Animals and much more! Plus we return to the Superhero... showdown with an incredible twist! Ai but not really. Thanks for listening!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Skip extra few minutes when avoiding spoilers. Feeds on Patreon, YouTube and bigsandwich.co are unaffected.00:00 The Start04:59 Old Rey Star Wars Movie Scrapped08:48 Animated Transformers Movie Casting14:41 Cinema Con & Dune: Part Two18:49 Kraven the Hunter is Rated R21:07 New MCU Blade Writer23:30 Hunger Games Prequel Trailer27:44 Transformers Rise of the Beasts Trailer33:04 Next Goal Wins & Equalizer 3 Trailer35:46 The Witcher S3 & Black Mirror Trailer39:03 The Flash Trailer46:24 Superhero Showdown01:50:19 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:58:11 Letters, It's Time For Letters02:07:11 The End Where We Just Plug StuffJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:41 May 10th. Tickets on sale now. Red Hot Comic Book Movie News. Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet Podcast, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
Starting point is 00:01:04 My name is James Olsen. Was that weird? My name is James. It felt weird. It was Mr. Sunday with Ms. Oz and Nick Mason. I've lost track now. At what point did you think it felt weird? I don't know. It felt like I was introing. I thought I was introing Caravan of Garbage and I kind of shifted. But I don't. I think those are probably similar.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I don't need to shift. Maybe it's time to mix it up, James. I think you're stuck in a rut. That's what everybody says about you. Good. They call you Mr. Stuck in a Rut. No. Do they? Yeah. Well, I don't like that. What do you think of that a rut. That's what everybody says about you. Good. They call you Mr. Stuck in a Rut. No. Do they? Yeah. Well, I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:01:29 What do you think of that? Well, that's the first step, I think. You can tell them that's what I think. That's the first step of getting out of a rut is acknowledging that you don't like it when people say that you're in a rut. Hi, I'm here as well also. Perfect. Anyway, in this episode, James, we're going to get you out of that rut. Can't wait. That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:41 We're going to give you a makeover. There's going to be a montage. Oh, no. We're going to put you on steroids. What? Yeah, that's part of the montage now. Or HGH. It's your call, I guess. I guess HGH if I had to choose. We're going to put you on that.
Starting point is 00:01:56 There's going to be a written test, obviously. And we're going to get you to Parallel Park. And that's in the montage also. Okay, yeah. Actually, no, the written test is not in a montage. The written test is in real time. Great. In between, is it in the middle of the montage
Starting point is 00:02:12 or it just stops for the written test? It stops for the written test. Great, awesome. Yeah, yeah. And it's marked in real time also. Okay, great. The guy's going to tut-tut and tick and cross and what have you. Not good.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, yeah. And you're going to have to fight your evil duplicate. Okay. So, yeah. Do I get a weapon? No, he gets a weapon. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And you're going to have to fight your evil duplicate. Okay. Do I get a weapon? No, he gets a weapon. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Well, I feel like I don't want to do any of that. No, we can skip it. We can do it next week. Don't worry about it. As someone in a rut, it sounds hard. Let's kick it down the road. We'll kick it down the road. Mason, we can't kick this down the road.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Oh, no. It's all the wonderful news of the week. That's right. Because if we kick that down the road, it'll be the news of last week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's embarrassing for us. I had some news a couple of weeks ago about how Funko Pop, you know, that company, they're destroying like $20 million
Starting point is 00:02:54 worth of Funko Pop. Because people aren't buying them anymore? People aren't buying them anymore, I guess. That's what happens. Or they overproduced or something. Yeah. I hope they're burying them like they did with all the ET cartridges and future generations will tear them up and be like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:03:06 I think YouTubers probably ran out of shelf space for their background so they stopped buying them. That's probably what happened, Mason. They went too broad, I feel like. Yep, okay. Not too broad, but there's too many. So it gets to a point where it's like, why even? Like it's impossible to keep up with this.
Starting point is 00:03:24 That's true, yeah. So anyway. But people like their very, very, very niche interest catered to in a Funko Pop form. Yes, but there's too much is what I'm saying. You're saying as a society there's too much pop culture to cater for. As someone who has none, it's too much. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah. I've got to get those Citadel Funko Pops. Which ones are those? That's the Amazon Prime series that's just come out. That one that nobody's watching and it cost a lot of money. It's got Richard Madden and one of the Jonas Brothers' wives. Yes. And not JK.
Starting point is 00:03:57 It's not Mark Strong either. I think it's- A bald man. It's a bald man. It might be my dad. I'm not sure. My actual dad. It's- Let me find. It's the guy who's in Transformers. It's a bald man. It might be my dad. I'm not sure. My actual dad. Let me find.
Starting point is 00:04:06 It's the guy who's in Transformers. Oh, Stanley Tucci. Stanley Tucci. Cool, man. My brain's been ruined, James. Imagine being like, what's Stanley Tucci been in? Just Transformers 4. And Transformers 5, The Last Knight.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Oh, yeah. He plays a wizard or something. Not just a wizard, the wizard. The Wizard of Merlin. Yeah, you're right. Anyway, so we're going to talk about that Rey Star Wars movie and what may have been, Mason. We're going to talk about the new Transformers 1 cast.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We're going to talk about CinemaCon, including news on Dune 2 and Sony's first. The battle for Arrakis. That's right. Sony's first R-rated superhero flick. Then it's trailers ahoy. We've got new Hunger Games. We've got Transformers. Younger Games. Thank you. That's great. We. We've got New Hunger Games. We've got Transformers.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Younger Games. Younger Games. Thank you. That's great. We've got The Three Equalizers. We've got The Witcher. We've got Black Mirror. We've got The Flash.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And then, of course, we're going to be doing our famous series that we haven't done in seven to ten years. Superhero Showdown. That's right, Mason. We're going to arbitrarily decide who'd win in a fight between one guy and another guy. That's right. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Just a couple of weird freaks in an arena of some sort. Exactly. And battle it out to the death. There's time codes below. Collings always does that, which is terrific. Maybe you want to skip to that showdown. Maybe you want to skip to the letters. Maybe you want to skip to the end where we just plug stuff and say social media handles.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Maybe you want to skip to it. Maybe you want to skip to that. Yeah. And then I'm out of a rut. You know what I mean? That's right. Yes. Mix it up. You can listen to this handles. Maybe you want to skip to it. Maybe you want to skip to that. Yeah. And then I'm out of a rut. You know what I mean? That's right. Yes. Mix it up.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You can listen to this in any order you want. And we can do it in any order, Mason. We're going to do some of this and then take a break and go to Red Rooster and come back and do the rest. What about if we do this all out of order but we edit it so it's in order? We edit it? Colleen's edits it so it's in order. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I love that. That would get him out of that rut. That we put him in. We put him in that rut. Okay, Mason. Yes. Now is the perfect opportunity to deploy your new favourite character. It's old Ray, Mason.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It's old Chrome Ray. This comes from a variety of people, including Can We Get Some Toast on Twitter. So apparently Damon Lindelof's Star Wars project that he left, which is going to be the Rey Skywalker movie. They asked him to leave, didn't they? Yeah, he was like, I was having a great time. But they said, hey, here's the door. And they went, what?
Starting point is 00:06:12 I'd imagine they went, go and get yourself something from the break room. And I opened the door and I went out and I was in a car park. And I turned around and there was no door. The door was gone. The door was gone. So, yeah, apparently he didn't want to leave. But he was actually going to have the project focus on an elderly Ray training two Jedi, a man and a woman.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Oh, yes. I wonder what that would sound like. We don't have time. This is via the Hot Mike podcast, Mason. You're stuck in a rut. You can't be doing old characters. That's true. Invent a new character.
Starting point is 00:06:45 The Hot Mike podcast said that. And then he kept saying, Ray. And I said, Finn, darling, what? What? Yeah, what? I mean, I'm listening. Like I was listening before. What do you want to?
Starting point is 00:06:56 And he never told me. I don't have anything to say. I'm just like shouting your name. And I suppose life's like that sometimes. You just, you never get to the bottom of it. I mean, were it some sort of narrative, that would be very unsatisfying. But it was real life, so. So is this the Jedi training as it started?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yes. How many flips do you want me to do? I mean, how many can you do? I could do like a forward roll, maybe a cartwheel. Oh, that sounds delightful. I don't think I could do a forward roll when I started. I bet you could. Oh, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Great, okay, I'm going to do it now. Mason, this is why the Hot Mike podcast apparently was going to be set 60 years in the future. Oh, yes. And Helen Mirren was going to play an older Ray. And that's still in our past. That's right. Maybe it caught up. Maybe that was in the future. Oh, yes. And Helen Mirren was going to play an older Rey. And that's still in our past. That's right. Maybe it caught up.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Maybe that was in our future. It went beyond our years. And now it's set in the 90s. That's right. So your lightsaber color can be blue or green or hyper color. Yeah. You warm it up and it changes color. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Now, I understand why they didn't do this. I like this idea, but the thing about Star Wars is you need at least three to four characters who can show up and go, remember me? And you go 80 years in the future, you can't be doing that. That's true. There's a lot of people you can't be. Palpatine can't be.
Starting point is 00:08:19 He could probably come back. Yeah, he could come back. But others, you know? Yeah. Others maybe not. That's right. But, you know, Helen Miriam is an old Jedi trying to remember if she could do a forward roll.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's interesting to me. That's very interesting, right? Anyway, it's never going to happen. No. They're doing Rey and she's 30. Yeah. Which is the age of Daisy Ridley. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:08:38 My insurance premiums have gone down now that I'm 30. I guess they would, wouldn't they? From a car and so forth? Yeah, a car. Car? I mean land speeder. Yeah, thank you. Actually, the design of your land speeder, you might know this, Ray.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It's actually like Luke's land speeder design and they've just tilted it on its side. I don't know who that is. You met him. I'm 30 years old, you know. I'm 30 years old, James.. I'm 30 years old, James. That's some desert 30 years, mate. That's brutal.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You know, people you see like. Can't be expected to remember every Tom, Dick and Luke. Happened like six years ago. He still visits you as a ghost. Oh, the ghost fella. I thought he was a phone call. One of those blue phone calls you get. I get so many blue phone calls.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Anyway. Here's some news, Mason. Go on. A couple of Transformers news, but we'll do this one first. The next Transformers animated movie, which is coming out next year, called Transformers 1. Big cast list released that's right
Starting point is 00:09:46 I understand it it's going to be a trilogy focusing on the early years the college years of Optimus and Megatron yeah who knows what they get up to all sorts of shenanigans
Starting point is 00:09:54 looking through a peephole yeah that's right you know RC or whatever Optimus is picking picking sides for his basketball team or whatever
Starting point is 00:10:01 and Megatron's like what about oh you're just going to go play basketball are are you? Revenge. Revenge, yeah. Here's the cast.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Chris Hemsworth as a young Optimus Prime. Young and sexy. Why young? Like a million years old? Yeah, a million years old Optimus Prime. Or I guess he'll be Orion Pax initially, won't he? Maybe. Brian Tyree Henry as young million-year-old Megatron.
Starting point is 00:10:27 All right. Scarlett Johansson as Alita. Yep. Who's that? Oh, it's like the other girl Transformer. The other girl. So there's two. There's a few now, but that's the main other one.
Starting point is 00:10:37 The main other one. There's Arcee, who's the main girl Transformer, and there's Alita One, who is the secondary girl Transformer. Second girl. Oh, yeah, she just looks like she's also pink. Yeah, but a slightly darker shade of pink. Yeah. This is great design all around.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Pretty good. I've seen this character and I just thought it was a variation on. Well, wrong. Yeah, wrong. Keegan-Michael Key is Bumblebee. Okay, he's having a good run with voiceover stuff, isn't he? That's right. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Here's a good one. Jonathan Hamm is Sentinel Prime. Mr.'t he? That's right. Here we go. Here's a good one. Jonathan Hamm, Sentinel Prime. Mr. Jonathan Hamm. That's right. And Lawrence Fishburne as Alpha Trion. Who's Alpha Trion again? Was he a Prime? No.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Oh, man. Is he like the head of the Citadel or something? Maybe. He's an enigmatic old robot and in many realities he's the guardian of Vector Sigma and the custodian of the circuit key. That's nonsense. That doesn't mean anything. I think.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So when I was a kid, there's some episodes where the Decepticons, they bill, you know the combiners? They bill. They send a bill. They send a bill. They finally get the bill. Well, that's not going to be good. The Decepticons build.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Soundwave, can you get this bill? The Decepticons build a bunch of, they're called the Stunticons. Oh, yeah. And then they turn into a big combiner guy. And then. Bruticus? No, Menasor. Menasor.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And then the Autobots have to go to Cybertron and build their own guys. And I think that's who they go to, that guy. I think that's Vector Sigma or Alpha Trion or whatever. He's like, you left me. You all got in the Ark and you left. First of all, shut up. Second of all, build us some more Autobots. But plain ones this time.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah. Aerobots. He's like, well, I'll make one of them afraid of flying. That'll show. That'll bloody show. He does. So if you build an Autobot, right, in this universe. Where does their soul come from?
Starting point is 00:12:20 That. And do they just have, like, are they automatically, like, got the personality? You put that in immediately? I don't know. Do they have to grow up? I don't know. Do they go to school?
Starting point is 00:12:28 I don't think so. Because I guess you can just put the knowledge in. Maybe it's optional. Maybe you can build a young one and it goes to school. The young ones. Or maybe if you're in a hurry, you just put a predefined personality in. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Just stack a bunch of like little boxes. What have we got here? We've got edgelord. Yeah. Edgelord guy. Yeah, let's have an edgelord one? We've got Edgelord. Yeah. Edgelord guy. Yeah, let's have an Edgelord guy. We've got guy who corners your parties. We'll plug that in.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Oh, my God. We've got guy who won't stop talking about going to the gym. And I realize that's irrelevant for Transformers. We're working with what we got. No amount of working out is going to make these guys bigger, but we've got to put it in there. I still think, Mason, at some point, and me and my son, we've had this discussion, they should give Bumblebee
Starting point is 00:13:09 the matrix of leadership at some point. Oh, yeah, nice. Make him a leader. Not the weird radio, I'm JFK or whatever. Now I'm a jazz song. I mean, like, regular personality Bumblebee. You know, he's like a little prime. Like a slightly littler prime. He seems worthy enough.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah. I mean, I guess there's only some continuity they'll be able to do it in. Because I'm pretty sure, I would say that in the movie continuity now, they're pretty firmly locked in that he doesn't talk anymore. Fuck all that. Yeah, I know, but it's too late because they're going to get more. No, I mean, don't worry about it. Mirage is going to be the guy who talks now.
Starting point is 00:13:43 But I think probably in the animated ones or the comics or whatever, they'll probably give him the Matrix of Leadership. Why not? Why not? Even just for a second. Yeah. Just to see how it feels. And he turns into a bigger Volkswagen.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Well, isn't he Goldbug? Yes. Also? Yes. Yeah, great. Mason? Well, what if we did an episode that was just bad, us, like with our vague memories of Transformers continuity?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Because he was destroyed by G.I. Joe, and then they rebuilt him as Goldbug. Which G.I. Joe? All of them. Just together. They surrounded him and shot him in the head. This freak. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:15 But that's only in the Marvel continuity. Yeah. In the others, I don't know. That's crazy. I think in some continuos they're separate guys. It doesn't matter. It's good to know. But I think it's important, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah, it is important. I mean, a question here It doesn't matter. It's good to know. I think it's important, isn't it? Yeah, it is important. I mean, a question here. It's probably the least important thing to know. Yeah. Of all the things in the world? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Now, note here is no actual voice actors in that one.
Starting point is 00:14:37 No, I didn't even realize that. It's all just celebrities. And that's fine and some of them are pretty good. This is, I mean, this is obviously a marketing whatever. Yeah, yeah. You come in for your day and go, Megatron, you betrayed me, et cetera. Is that?
Starting point is 00:14:50 Ask yourself that. Megatron. Betrayed me. Autobots transformed and rolled out. Let's get out of here. Megatron's turned into a gun again. Chris, can you give us another take on that? I will not.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm going method and this is how Optimus Prime sounds. You get the best. You get what you pay for, the best. That's right. This is me. Oh, God. Chris Hemsworth. We loved you in Thor 4.
Starting point is 00:15:18 That's not true. You didn't love him in Thor 4? No. You didn't like him? No, I didn't like him. Well, I'm going to tell him that you said that. Right. Because we're both Australian, which means we'll run into each other at some point.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Right, I welcome that. Yeah. Mason, CinemaCon happened. Okay. Is there a bigger con on bloody earth than the cinema? Getting you to the cinema and you get a big popcorn or whatever? Getting a big popcorn, that's the biggest con in the world, isn't it? That's my joke, Mason.
Starting point is 00:15:40 They're very expensive, aren't they? They are very expensive. Yeah, that's the biggest con in the world, isn't it? Especially considering it's probably the cheapest snack you could manufacture, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's also the storage is like capacity is like it's great because, you know, they're little and then they become slightly bigger.
Starting point is 00:15:54 But you pay for the drama, don't you? The drama of getting a popcorn. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. No, you don't pay for that. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Because once in like every 20th time you go to the cinema, the machine's popping. That's true. And that's worth it, I think. Yeah, well, they run up once a year. Yeah, yeah the cinema, the machine's popping. That's true.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And that's worth it, I think. Yeah, well, they run it once a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're absolutely right. Yeah. Anyways, so a bunch of stuff was revealed, including some trailers that we'll talk about. But here's some just news that you might want to know.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And some people just – they just showed full movies. They just went, here's – you can watch The Flash or whatever, which we'll talk about. But Dune 2 – Is CinemaCon open to just regular people? No, I think it's specific movie uh elite critics i bet it is that's why you got an invite because you're a big cinema nerd you're in you're in with big cinema i'm not i'm i'm a man on the street yeah and i go to the cinema like a
Starting point is 00:16:36 normal person at home i watch things on tv basically yeah that's true yeah well what's cinema con like great yeah i got it they showed me a bunch of movies and they said can you say things on TV, basically. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. What's CinemaCon like? Great, yeah. I got it. They showed me a bunch of movies and they said, can you say these are good when you review them? And I said, fine. That's cool. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah. You brought me to CinemaCon. Yep. You've given me a show bag with- Sure. Fungo pop in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got like a bumblebee mask and you changed your voice and stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Worth it, I reckon. Absolutely worth it. Just absolutely worth it to give it a good review, just a thing that will be in my house for a week and then I'll run out and I'll chuck it in the bin, you know. Yeah. I think it's worth it. I agree.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get to stand in front of like just a hastily put up sign that just says Bumblebee or whatever, Transformers, I don't know, Rise of the Beast. Yeah. And I just stood in front of it and got my picture taken and that, Transformers, I don't know, Rise of the Beasts. Yeah. And I just stood in front of it and got my picture taken and that's worth it, I think. That's worth it.
Starting point is 00:17:30 A photo you'll never look at. I'll sacrifice all my principles for that, I reckon. It's worth it. Now, Mason, it's not that bad. There's a lot of very nice people, some of which I know that went to CinemaCon. Wow. So I'll accept your attraction.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But before that, Dune 2, they're talking about it. Apparently it picks up. There's a couple of images that were released. It picks up right up. Are they from like quite high up, like a top-down perspective and it's in a grid system? No, Mason. No one's talking about this Dune video game anymore.
Starting point is 00:17:55 There's like a bar at the side and you click on the thing and you can move stuff and manufacture little buildings and stuff. No, and there's the fog of war so you can't see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have seen this movie. I knew it. I didn't see the movie. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Mason. Okay. But, yeah, apparently it picks up right after the first. And apparently Denis Villeneuve considers actually the first movie and the second movie actually one whole movie. Interesting. So if you were thinking that it's going to cost you an additional ticket to see this movie, you don't have to because it's actually one movie.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Oh, that's perfect. So as long as you've got your ticket from the first year. Kept that stuff. I watched it at home. It came to streaming here and then it came out a month later in cinemas. But I am looking forward to seeing this one in cinemas. Good movie. I think if he really did consider it, you know, two parts of a –
Starting point is 00:18:40 if he did really consider it one movie, he shouldn't have called it Dune Part 1 and Part 2. Yeah. I think he should have just called them both Dune. No, you should have called the first one Due and the next one N. You're nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Makes sense to me.
Starting point is 00:18:52 So there you go. So that's coming out next year. Yeah, we've got some stills. We've got a picture of Florence Pugh. Yeah. We've got apparently Austin Butler shaved his head for the role. Or bald cap. Bald cap.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Oh, Dune Part 2 comes out 2023. It comes out this year. It's this year. November of this year. Oh, that's cool. So, yeah, there you go. Okay, here we go. Is he doing the Elvis accent?
Starting point is 00:19:13 Or is he doing something like this? I think he's doing something like that. I've got some sand in my throat. I'm not on the planet yet. I went to the beach. They said breathe in that sand air. I said I will and I've done it. Are we doing Marlon Brando?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Is that what this voice is? Like Eddie Redmayne, Jupiter's. Oh, yeah. Very good. Also, oh, you're going to love this. Am I? Sony have finally revealed what their first R-rated superhero movie is going to be.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Is it Craven? Craven, Friend of the Animals. Wow. Because as you know, this version of Craven is an animal lover, not a fighter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they showed a trailer. People loved the trailer.
Starting point is 00:19:54 They said, we love this and thank you for the poster that I'll never put up. That's right. But there's a moment in it which you're going to love. I've heard about it. Is this a spoiler? I guess. Look, if you don't want to know anything about Craven. And you don't. Friends of the Animals. But not for spoilers. You just don't want to know. Yeah,. I've heard about it. I guess, look, if you don't want to know anything about Craven, Friends of the Animals, you don't.
Starting point is 00:20:07 But not for spoilers. You just don't want to know. Yeah, you don't want to hear about it. Well, too bad. Skip around. Get out of your rut. Maybe you'll learn to love a bad movie or two. Yeah, learn to love it.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah, apparently it ends with a guy saying something along the lines of, don't you want to know why they call me the rhino? And then he turns it to. And Craven says, no, actually. No, I don't, actually. I'm not interested. It seems like you're fishing for attention. And if there's anything that's going to turn me off asking any questions,
Starting point is 00:20:32 it's somebody fishing for attention. So, no, I don't. I didn't even know they called you that. Please and thank you. I said, do you know me why they called me Mr. Rhino? Your name badge says Greg. Greg Rhino. Well, it just says Greg R. so I guess that could be, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Okay, fine. Why? Why? Look, I turn into a rhino, all right? That's great, Greg Rhino. So he turns into a rhino. Yeah. Though, there are people that say, like, well, that's accurate to rhino.
Starting point is 00:20:58 But isn't the original rhino is just a guy trapped in a rhino suit? Yeah, I guess, but I mean, I suppose. And then there's the mechanical rhino we've seen before. Yeah, I guess. I mean, yes. Is he trapped in a suit? I don't remember. I think he is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Just a bunch of them are. Scorpion is. Yeah, but I think he's one of those guys where they did experiments on him and he became a really big guy and then they put the rhino suit on him or whatever. So maybe, you know, who knows. But also, doesn't that sound like a bit of fun? The guy going, I'm turning into a rhino now.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, watch this turning into a rhino now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, watch this. Turn into a rhino. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get ready. So that's cool. Okay. Anyway, again, people said they liked the footage.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And if there's one thing we know about Sony and their spin-off movies, it's that they're bad. They're bad. They're all bad. The ones that they can just barely get made are bad. But maybe this is not. Maybe it's really good. Maybe it's really good. Maybe it's super cool. The ones that they can just barely get made are bad. But maybe this is not. Maybe it's really good.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Maybe it's really good. Maybe it's super cool. Maybe it's the best movie that Sony have ever made in terms of Spider-Man spin-offs, and that's possible. Now, here's one bit of news. Is this true? Oh, it is from thehollywoodreporter.com. Speaking of movies that could be bad, Marvel spin-offs especially that could be bad.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Is this El Muerto? No, this is about the Blade movie. Oh yeah, I saw some news on that. There's a new Blade movie, which at this point should be filming, but I don't think it is. Yeah, it's supposed to be out this week, isn't it? That's right. It's gone through a bunch of different scripts and so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Apparently, they've brought on Nick Pizzolatto to write the movie, who is the creator of True Detective. That's a great... That's a great. That's a great get. And, of course, he's worked with the star of Blade in season three. He worked with Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes.
Starting point is 00:22:31 From the movie Blade from 1998. That's right, James. Wow. But clearly, Marshal Ali has been a little bit, like, I think he seems to really want to make this work and not be in a movie that's bad. Yeah. And I'm guessing he has some sort of sway here.
Starting point is 00:22:48 He must. How about bringing in a guy who's good at writing? Yeah. That would be nice. That's not a bad idea. Well, apparently there's rumours that like Kevin Feige, we've talked about it before, he's very much now wrangling like the storylines for this.
Starting point is 00:22:59 It blew out too much and he lost kind of creative control and like quality control. It became like more quantity over quality. Yes. So that might just be part of this. Maybe they should do it before Mahershala Ali turns 70 years old. Because how old is he? He's at least like 55, right?
Starting point is 00:23:16 I don't think that's true. Yes, he is. Is he? No. You're thinking of Stan Lee. I'm thinking of Stan Lee, a famously dead man. Yeah. No, he's 49.
Starting point is 00:23:24 You're thinking of Ray Skywalker. who's in her late 50s. No, 30s. Oh, so she may as well be dead then. Yeah, I agree. That's 50 in Hollywood years if you're an actress. Yeah, that's true. Don't even bother. Don't even bother to show up on set.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah. All right, so there you go. Are you excited for Blade with that creative team? Yes, I am. That they might fire? Yes. Yeah. There might be some good ideas that he contributes before they fire him.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I saw a room, I don't know who it was from, where he was like, yeah, one good thing about hiring Sam Raimi is that you can just trust him to do it and he'll make something good. And I really like that Doctor Strange movie, that last one, and I think that's largely because Sam Raimi got to put a bit of his Sam Raimi juice in it. You know? And the director of Blade currently is Jan de Mol.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yes, who, oh, what have they worked on before? Lovecraft Country. That's the one. First episode, I think. There you go. And other things I remember. Yes. Anyways, let's do some trailers. Ooh, honk. I would even say honk for trailers of all time. Now it's ooh, honk. Ooh, honk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:25 The trailers are running across the road suddenly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like that. The trailers are running across the road suddenly. It's dark. Okay. And we're driving. Yeah. And the trailers are suddenly running across the road and we're like, ooh, honk.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I heard that's actually how the first time that you saw a naked lady went ooh, honk. Is that true? No. That's true. No, it's not true. That's what she's been telling everybody, Mason. Anyways, trailers are hoo, honk. the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes,
Starting point is 00:24:48 the Hunger Games, because Francis Lawrence is back to direct. You might know Francis Lawrence from all the previous Hunger Games movies. I do. And also Constantine or Constantine and also another thing that I like. Oh, yeah. I like his movies. So in this time around, younger games as i like oh well i'm going with what did i say nunga games nunga games because it's the new hunger game oh okay
Starting point is 00:25:14 well that's good too yeah so tom blythe is playing a young president snow and rachel zegler is playing lucy gray bard and what happens is this is out in November. Is that the plot? Yeah. It's out in November. So it's just after the war, the big war that happens in The Hunger Games. Okay, right, right, right. Which starts The Hunger Games or something. Yeah, yeah. And so they start The Hunger Games or something.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's a little bit community theatre. Yeah. They're like, let's put on a show. Yeah, that's right. Let's do it in this disused community hall. Yeah, it just looks like it's in like a tunnel. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Just an old movie theatre. They're like, it's in like a tunnel. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just an old movie theater. They're like, just run around for a bit. Yeah, they didn't have the budget for big like mutant dogs and holograms. Yeah, nanotech slime and whatever. Yeah, and you can paint yourself into a rock. That's right. I'm looking forward to coming back to these this year for Caravan of Garbage. But so yeah, it's basically, so President Snow was, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Donald Subalant. And apparently something happened to him when he was young and in love and then he was like, no, I'm evil. So we're going to – this is one book. So I don't know whether we're just getting this one book or there's going to be a series of movies. I don't know how much of this movie is the book or whatever, but one it seems at the very least.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I mean how much is just them reading from the book? Just every actor has a copy of the book and they just read it out on screen. I would love that. Yeah, uh-huh. Nice cinema. So, yeah, there you go. Looking forward to it. It's pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I really like the people that are in it. It's good. I really like Rachel Zegler. She's good in things. Yep. And I feel like she's also been in a lot of things which nobody saw. Like Shazam 2. Like Shazam 2 and the Steven Spielberg, the West Side Story,
Starting point is 00:26:47 and another thing, a third thing, which I can't even remember. Yeah. Northland Story. What? Northland Story? It's about the shopping centre. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Oh, wow. I should check that. I probably won't. But she's the new Snow White or something. Is she? Or the other one. Or one of the other Disney princesses. She's one of those.
Starting point is 00:27:07 That's true. People will hate that. I hope this is good. There you go. Anyway, as the movie says, it's out in November, so we get to see it this year. Maybe we can do our May the odds be forever in November when this is coming out. That's right. Do you want to do our classic Doctor Who slash Hunger Games
Starting point is 00:27:24 episodes, which we used to do? Oh, we could do that, yes. They used to line up every year. Is new Doctor Who going to be out then? Nocta Who. Nocta Who. New. Doctor New.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Doctor Who. Nocta New. Doctor New. Nocta New. Doctor Who release date. Yay. May and October of 2023. So maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah, maybe. That could work out. It says, so the audio dramas. Why? Oh, wait, they get me with these things, Mason. They do. It's always like, this guy's back at Doctor Who. And I'm like, oh, is he?
Starting point is 00:27:55 And it's like, no. The guy who played that lady's granddaddy's back for more adventures. And that guy doddering down to the shops. But maybe the Cybermen will be there. Probably. They're not, though. It's just a bin. He was confused for a minute.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah, okay, so Tenet will appear in three specials in November 2023. All right, great. We're lining up again, Mason. Yeah, that's right. This is our bread and butter. This is how we made all that money initially. Is it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Great. We made a fortune, don't you remember? One of us did. Who initially. Is it? Yeah. Great. We made a fortune. Don't you remember? One of us did. Who's to say who? Oh, no. So there you go. There we go.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Transformers Rise of the Beasts. Big trailer. Big time trailer. A few reveals I wish they didn't do. Yep. So we're going to spoil some of these. If you've been avoiding the trailers because you want to go in fresh to this, too bad. Don't watch this one.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Absolutely don't watch this one. Skip around. Get out of your rut. We've been telling you all episode unless you've been avoiding the trailers because you want to go in fresh to this. Don't watch this one. Skip around. Get out of your rut. We've been telling you all episode unless you've been skipping around normally. You'd probably be missing the part where we say get out of the rut. But now's your opportunity. I think they're going to miss that as well. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Anyway, let's spoil it for that guy. Stay in your rut. Yeah, stay in. Yeah. Anyway, Unicron's in this. Unicron's in this. Apparently it's going to be a Unicron trilogy. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:29:03 So hopefully it's good. Okay. So they defeat Unicron trilogy. Whoa. So hopefully it's good. Okay. So they defeat Unicron. Otherwise they'll tease Unicron again and then not do another movie with Unicron. Yeah, they're going to defeat Unicron and then it's his mum and dad come to give the Transformers a big talking to. Our son is special.
Starting point is 00:29:17 That's right. And you treated him very poorly, actually. He's trying his best to eat the planet. It's actually quite rude what you've done here. So that's in and he's looking very cartoon accurate as opposed to all the other times Unicron's been in these movies. Once. Or twice.
Starting point is 00:29:33 He was a big horn coming out of the earth or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, great. Because the earth in that version was Unicron. Okay, great. God. Yeah. Why did they do that version?
Starting point is 00:29:41 I don't know, man. But at least they did that version so now we can get this version down. Okay, but this version, some would argue, I'd say probably some big Transformers fans. I know, sometimes Unicron's the Earth, I know. No, no, no, no, but I'm saying that in the cartoon, they didn't battle Unicron until way further in the continuity. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Until like the second gen Transformers arrived, like a Hot Rod, for example, an RC. Yeah. Although she's in this. She's saying it's too early. I'm saying it's, well, I don't care, but I'm saying for some people probably too early. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I think maybe they were just. Where's Springer? Where's Springer? Where's Healy? Where's Cup? Where's Cup? Where's Cup? Where's Ultra Magnus?
Starting point is 00:30:17 Where is Ultra Magnus? How old is Ultra Magnus then? Probably in three million. Yeah, probably. That's right. Because he wasn't in the original. No, he was off doing something else. Oh, I was off. I was busy. I'm busy. What, you. Because he wasn't in the original. No, he was off doing something else. Oh, I was off.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I was busy. I'm busy. What, you're busy for a million years? Yeah. Fucking idiot. You're busy for a million years, right? Yeah. Ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I was in line at the Transformers bank. It can take a million years. That's understandable, actually. Yeah. Don't you have any electronic years. That's understandable actually. Yeah. Don't you have electronic banking? That's ridiculous. Why do you have physical cash? I have to deposit a check.
Starting point is 00:30:52 The check turns into a bee or whatever and it flies off and you've got to chase it. It's madness. It is madness. So there's also one thing that I enjoy from the Transformers, the movie, the animated one, is that there's that transforming suit that I enjoy from the Transformers, the movie, the animated one, is that there's that transforming suit that a human can wear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 But that doesn't really, it just looks more like an XO Iron Man suit. It does, doesn't it? I prefer like a boxy car kind of thing. Right, right, right. That breaks all your limbs when you transform into a little car. Yeah. That shatters you. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:31:20 But yeah, Mirage throws the human protagonist some sort of little nanotech thing and he's like, oh, I've got a suit on now. Don't mind if I do. So that's pretty cool. So we should get more – look at all the anamorphs that are in this and whatever. That's right. That's right, all those anamorphs.
Starting point is 00:31:34 That's all that. Yeah, that's right. Probably some Predacons, et cetera. Not Megatron yet? No. I can't remember the rumors of whether he is or isn't. I think if he's not in this one, he'll probably be teased in the post-credits or whatever, but he'll be in the next one.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That's right. I assume. I love all the designs that they've been going with this as well, the G1 kind of look of all of these. That looks good. He can't be a gun anymore, so now he transforms into a big sign that says, Respect your parents.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I really like the voice of, because there's a new Bumblebee, Mirage. It's Pete. Sampras. It's tennis legend Pete Sampras. That's what I thought. Yeah. Who is it? Notoriously boring man, Pete Sampras.
Starting point is 00:32:17 That's right. Who did you say? Pete Davidson. Davidson. Okay, great. All right. I know a lot of people are like skeptical, but I thought he was a good fit for this actually. Yeah, great, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:32:26 So there you go. I saw it because I'm in the Transformers Reddit, the subreddit. Oh, yeah, okay. Someone was like, yeah, it's only good because they put the voice changer on it. It's like, I mean, that's a part of it, but I don't think that's the only reason why. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he fits that character.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah, also I saw on Twitter that one of the people involved in the production confirmed that they have modeled Optimus Prime's face on Peter Cullen's. Oh, really? Because, like, you know, the mask can come down, you see his mouth and nose and et cetera. Looks like Peter Cullen. Well, I heard in the animated one with Chris Hemsworth, he's just going to be holding a surfboard the whole time.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Wow, that's crazy. That's what Chris Hemsworth likes to do. Big t-shirt that says, I heart Byron Bay. I heart wellness. Download the Center app. Exactly what I said. I'm selling a gin now. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:33:19 A tequila, probably a tequila. Probably a tequila. At least he's doing a fitness app. Sorry, we're talking about another thing that we recorded. We did a Fast and Furious Caravan of Garbage, and I realized during it that I'm sick of celebrities trying to sell us their alcohols. You are jack of it.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, I am jack of it. You've reached your peak, and you... I just realized... Yeah, I didn't even realize that I hated it, but I'm sick of it. You unloaded on all those Hollywood phonies. That's right. Somebody had to, Mason. That's right. It wasn't going You unloaded on all those Hollywood phonies. That's right. Somebody had to, Mason. That's right. It wasn't going to be me.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I went to CinemaCon. I've never unloaded on any Hollywood phonies. Next Girl Wins. That was a trailer. Michael Batidi's next film. Looks good. Now, some people are like, how could he say he's an Oscar loser when he's won an Oscar? And that's a great point. Yeah. Well, it's not as funny though, is it? It's not as funny. That's true.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Don't you want it to be funny? That's right. I do want it to be funny. Me too, Mason. So, yeah, it looks good. It looks more like his boy in his Hunt for the World of People. Yeah, lower stakes. That's what he does.
Starting point is 00:34:15 He does his big one and then he does a bit of fun. Yeah, I'm on board. Bit of fun. He does a bit of fun. Michael Fassbender, fake beard, et cetera, then no beard. So, yeah, apparently based on a true story. This next one I didn't watch but you did. The Threequalizer.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Oh, yes. What did you think? His back is in Italy. Does he have a hammer? An Italian hammer. I think he has an Italian hammer. Just a big handful of loose spaghetti. That's right.
Starting point is 00:34:37 A wet handful of spaghetti. That's right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think of that? I love it. Yeah. Did it look good? Yeah, I guess, sure. I like Denzel of that? I love it. Yeah. Did it look good? Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Sure. I like Denzel Washington. I mean, it's the same format. He's retired and he's gone to Italy. Why? Because he likes Italy. I don't know. There's not like a reason?
Starting point is 00:34:55 He didn't go there for an international kidnapping or something? No, he's just there because he's retired and he's like, I'm liking this slope base of whatever. And then there are some mafia guys. He's like, well, better kill everybody in the mafia, I guess. Yeah, why not? But of course, it's the equalizer, so he's like, you might want to rethink being killed
Starting point is 00:35:11 by me. You can walk away or I'm going to kill all of you. And they're like, well, we'd prefer if you killed all of us, quite frankly. That's right. I'm just looking at, so the first one made $192 million. Okay, all right. the first one made $192 million. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:35:28 It's a nice little, second one made $190 million. Oh, wow. These have never been like huge. So I guess these stream well? Probably, yeah. And I guess up the back are like John Wick and whatever. Yeah, that's true, yeah. Let's do a geezer teaser, mate. Yeah, let's go.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But I liked Denzel Washington. I liked the one that I saw, whichever one that was. Did you ever see The American? It had George Clooney in it. No, what was that? He's in Italy. And is he like an action guy? Yeah, he's an assassin.
Starting point is 00:35:52 A former assassin turned? Current assassin. Current assassin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. He should get out of his rut of being an assassin. Right? What a nerd.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That's right. Is it good? Yeah, I like it. Is that his name? Is his CIA name? Is he like the American? No, he's just American. He's just American.
Starting point is 00:36:12 He's not, you know. Yeah, okay. Is he on holiday and then he gets caught up and he has to do an assassin? No, he's- He's there for an assassination. Well, he's there to get away from all the other people he killed. Great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:23 That's cool. Yeah. Well, he should have gone somewhere less obvious. Right. If he'd gone to America, he would have just blended in because he would have just been the guy. Exactly. The guy.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah. Some guy. Some guy. Some American man. Yeah. Mason, we also got a trailer for The Witcher Season 3. That's right. Probably the final season.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I haven't seen The Witcher Season 2 or most of The Witcher Season 1. Me and you are in the same boat, man. Yeah. What do you think? All right. Is Jerry Geralt back? He's in there. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:36:51 He's in there and he's – Is he shirtless? No, he's shirtful. Very shirtful as far as I can remember. And everybody's drinking potions and their eyes are going black and they're being like, how about some of this? And then they do a thing and there's a big zap and everybody falls over, you know, that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:07 You know the stuff that they like, no? Yeah. I can't believe you haven't watched these yet. Yeah. That's what I like. You know? Just your enthusiasm for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:17 It's powerful. What I like, James, and you know this, is when somebody, like imagine a scenario in which you went to shove somebody. Yeah. You do a shove, but they're slightly further away than you're expecting. Yeah. How are you going to shove them?
Starting point is 00:37:27 You can't do it. But what if you had a magic? Yeah. You drank a potion or whatever, and then you do a shove, and they get shoved even though they're out of shoving range. Isn't that incredible? They didn't expect it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Some guy sold his soul to the devil so he can do a slightly further. He's got more range on his shove. Yeah, that's sick, man. I think that's cool, actually. I'm a big fan of that. Yeah. So cool. There you go.
Starting point is 00:37:43 The Witcher Season 3. Then we've got Black Mirror, speaking of Netflix. Season 6 also out in June. That's right. What do you think? I like Black Mirror. Can't tell anything from this. No. I was just thinking, actually, that I was under the impression, this is a few weeks ago, I was under the impression that Charlie Brooker stopped
Starting point is 00:37:59 making Black Mirror. He did say that. Yeah. That was a while back. So yeah, I'm just looking up the cast for this. Got Rachel Harris, Sean Teal, Benjamin Bratt, Brooke Shields, Miranda Cosgrove, Chad Michael Murray. Chad Michael Murray? Paul, whatever his name's in it, isn't he? Zazie Beetz, Aaron Paul, Josh Hartnett.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yes. There you go. I don't know what any of these are about. Sometimes they're in space. Sometimes they're standing in a weird blank room. Sometimes there's a recurring theme like the last season was always like, what if your mind got put into a
Starting point is 00:38:30 thing? A doll or whatever. A doll or a room. Or a box. A box. You couldn't go down the shops. You couldn't get a single thing down the shops. Unless they put the box in the shops. And then you're trapped in the shops.
Starting point is 00:38:44 That's your future potentially. That's right. All of you just spending an Yeah, but then you're stuck there. And then you're trapped in the shops. Think about that. Yeah. That's your future potentially. That's right. That's right. Although you're just spending an eternity looking at cereal you can't eat. Anyway, I hope you learned your lesson. I hope you learned your lesson. Stop looking at your phone. That's right.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Stop looking at it. Otherwise you could end up in a box in the supermarket. I'll put you in a box. I'll put you in your grave. That's right. Yeah, I'm watching it right now. Yeah, are you? Yeah, it looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Anyone do a big push? No. Do you reckon there's going to be one that's set in like the 80s or whatever, like they did with Bandersnatch? Oh, is that Rob? Yeah, you said Rob Delaney's going to be in this. Oh, Salma Hayek. This is an all-star.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah, I think there's going to be one. Like San Junipero, there's going to be one episode that isn't as dreary and miserable as all the others. So people have like a sense of hope. I think Charlie Brook has talked about that. He's like, maybe we'll do some optimistic ones instead of like another president has sex with a pig and everyone's a pedophile or whatever. One of those ones.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty confident there's going to be a store mannequin that's going to come to life. Oh. Maybe because somebody's mind is in it. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Makes sense to me. Anyway, I love Black Mirror. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Makes sense to me. Mm-hmm. Anyway, I love Black Mirror. I also love the show Black Mirror. Mm-hmm. Look forward to that in June. I will. Mason, the big reveal from CinemaCon. Don't have to tell me.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I was there. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Why don't you tell me the big reveal from CinemaCon? More Funko Pops. Oh, yeah. More. They've recycled the old Funko Pops.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Yeah. They've given them more mustaches. Just got them on the marker and putting mustaches on all of them. That's great. So to mostly universal acclaim it seems, people love this new Batman movie that they've made. Interesting. They've got multiple Batman in it.
Starting point is 00:40:17 It's Michael Keaton, Ben Affleck. And it just seems like a really interesting Batman movie that they've made. Oh, yes. Yeah. Don't you think? I mean, you saw it, so you can. Yeah, I think it's good. And they told me to like it, so I do.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I think that's cool. Imagine if they said, just tell everyone you don't like this one. That's great marketing. Just say no, it's bad. Yeah. Okay, so. Do you think that, look, that is the future of marketing, I think, is they pick content creators they know that people hate
Starting point is 00:40:49 and they go, here's some money. Tell people you don't like this one and people will go to spite you. I wonder if, do you reckon there are people like that that exist? If somebody says they hate it, then you go, oh, that's one for me to say. Yeah. Yeah. Aren't there? Yeah. But I don't follow anyone I hate. Isn't there that famous, who is it? Is it Armand White? go, oh, that's one for me to see. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't follow him on that. Isn't there that famous, who is it?
Starting point is 00:41:07 Is it Armand White who has very odd-tasted movies? But is that like, does that mean, like when he says stuff like that, does anybody like, oh, that's a good one actually? Because he seems to say it after like the movie is revealed to people. Oh, I see. Right, right, right. You know? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I feel like we could be that. Yeah, we could do it. You can pay me to say your movie's bad. That's fine. Yeah, yeah. So there's a- We're talking about the Flash movie. The Flash movie.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah, yeah. It's a Batman movie. But there's a line where Michael Keaton says, you want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. Yeah. And that's a line from a previous Batman movie. Yeah, yeah. And there's a moment where Michael Shannon is like, what am I doing here?
Starting point is 00:41:46 There's a- I saw a Twitter like, what am I doing here? I saw on Twitter somebody tweeted. I don't remember. How did I get here? Somebody tweeted something along the lines of it's a competition between Michael Shannon and Michael Keaton as to who wants to be their least. And I disagree. Michael Keaton doesn't want to be there.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Michael Shannon doesn't know where he is. Because there is no way. What a dynamic duo. There is no way Michael Shannon did anything. Like he didn't go to a place. Like he didn't go out into the desert. No. At best he went into a room. Got his head scanned.
Starting point is 00:42:16 He got his head scanned. They did some lines and then they CGI'd everything else, his entire body, whatever he's doing. There's a moment where he gets like crushed into the ground or a wall or something. That's obviously not. Yeah. None of that's doing. There's a moment where he gets, like, crushed into the ground or a wall or something. That's obviously not. Yeah. None of that's real.
Starting point is 00:42:28 No. But. Apparently he asked Zack Snyder for permission. Oh, okay. That's nice. Yeah. So that's, you know, because they made a movie together. And again, this is another thing where I think if you've been avoiding
Starting point is 00:42:37 the spoilers for this, don't listen to what we're about to say. Yeah. Because I think, spoilers beginning right now, I think we're seeing a lot of the third act action sequence. Yeah. Most of it is in this trailer, I think. I'm not going to spoil it because I think I don't know most of them, but apparently it's just like wall-to-wall insane cameos as well.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As you would have seen. Yeah. I hope it's not just Michael Keaton saying lines from previous Batman movies and then just cameos because I know in the moment I'll be like, oh, cool, it's Adam West Batman. Oh, cool, it's whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But, I mean, people seem to like it, including you. But, again, these early reactions, they don't mean anything. Especially not mine. No. Because they paid me to say it was good. They paid you to say it was good or bad. I can't remember. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah. Yeah, also apparently some, I saw this, it was pointed out that Grant Gustin, the long time Barry Allen, the Flash in the Flash TV series is not in it. And the creator said something along the lines of, oh, if we could make it work narratively, blah, blah, blah, we'd do it. But apparently they're all, apparently, again, like you said, there is a sequence where we just see some cameos for no real narrative reason.
Starting point is 00:43:45 But also the thing about the Flash TV series is that Flash has gone through all this stuff as well. He's done a Flash point. He met this Flash. Yeah, that's right. So, like, narratively what's going to happen is you're going to – Ezra Miller Flash is going to be like, I don't know what to do. And this other Flash will be like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:05 this exact same thing happened to me. Just run. Just run really fast. That's worked out well for me. What direction? I don't know. It doesn't matter. It's a little bit Star Trek, the Star Trek where young Spock
Starting point is 00:44:19 meets old Spock from the previous universe. And he goes, what have you got to tell me? I don't know, sit in a chair and whatever. Probably come across some weird stuff. You'll figure it out. It's fine. Raise an eyebrow previous universe. And he goes, what have you got to tell me? I don't know, sit in a chair and whatever. Probably come across some weird stuff. You'll figure it out. It's fine. Raise an eyebrow. Raise an eyebrow or two.
Starting point is 00:44:29 That's fine. Do you think that Warner Brothers sat down and went, can we change this? Can we call this Batman Flashpoint? Yeah, maybe. Maybe they should have. Yeah, maybe they should have, yeah. Maybe that's still to come.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It's not out yet. Yeah. I do love how like every now and then somebody at Warner Brothers will be like, what's the future of Ezra Miller's Flash? And they're like, who knows the future? Because they can't be gone, dead. Unless this makes $2 billion, in which case. I don't think Ezra
Starting point is 00:44:54 Miller's ever coming back. I think this is unless on the back of years of rehabilitation. And I hope that happens, genuinely. But you can't build more movies around this person. If this movie made a – You shouldn't also.
Starting point is 00:45:06 No, if this movie makes like $1.5 billion, The Flash will be back. But I don't think it'll be. Or Michael Keaton's Batman or whatever, which is probably what – I mean that's why people are going to this, right? They want to see stuff they know. Also there was an article where Michael Keaton was talking to the press, if you can imagine such a thing. And it was like he got the director to take some photos of him
Starting point is 00:45:27 in the Batman suit for his grandkids. I'm like, you're going to be in the movie though. Just take them to the movie. Show them the Batman movies you were in. Michael Keaton, do you not know what cameras and film and – Can you take a photo of me and then get it developed and sent and posted to me so I can show my grandkids? Can you take some photos and then take them down to the chemist
Starting point is 00:45:50 and get them back in a few days? Can you do that? Yes, Michael Keaton. Yes, we can do that. There you go. I mean, you would want to show your grandkids that you're Batman, wouldn't you? Because they'd be like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Those are weird, those ones you made. That's right. You're barely in that second one. That's weird. Anyways, anything can be good. That's true. And people saying that they loved it and maybe it's got an inconsistent third act or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Well, we know it does because we've seen it. They've shown us the whole thing in the trailer. I feel like that's going to be like end of second act and then the third act is evil flash, multiple cameos, et cetera. Interesting. But also, who cares? James, we care because we're being paid by Warner Brothers. You got paid.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I didn't get paid. Okay, right. Well, I'll talk to Zazlav. Yeah. I'll go to the Zazlab, which is where he hangs out. And where Michael Keaton develops his photos. That's exactly right. And I'll talk to Zazlav. Yeah. I'll go to the Zazlab, which is where he hangs out. And where Michael Keaton develops his photos. That's exactly right. And I'll talk to him.
Starting point is 00:46:49 We'll sort that out for you. No, I am interested to see these characters, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I am like, is this just going to be cameos and Michael Keaton being like, Jack Nicholson's Joker? He'll say that. Oh, his famous catchphrase. When he saw him in the first movie, he's like,
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Starting point is 00:48:11 And the last... April Fool's Day. What? Well, the last Superhero Showdown was April of 2020. My goodness. So it's been three whole months. Yeah. Because those years don't count.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Or 20 years? I don't know. So that's fun, isn't it? So it's high time for another one. Exactly. Should we do one or should we 20 years? I don't know. So that's fun, isn't it? So it's high time for another one. Exactly. Should we do one or should we skip it? I'm actually busy doing a superhero showdown, Mason. All right, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:32 What are you? One privately. Yeah, privately. Okay, great. Just among my peers. I have normal friends and this is what we talk about. I've never seen any of your normal friends except Barry. Well, they're normal, so you wouldn't have met.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I wouldn't have introduced you. That's actually bulletproof logic, if I'm honest. So, Mason. Yes. What are the rules of the superhero showdown? Here's the rules of the superhero showdown. We take, at minimum, two people because any less would be weird. And any more would be, well, sometimes we do that.
Starting point is 00:48:56 But it would be criminal. It would be criminal. We'll do it anyway because we love to break the rules. That's right. Anyway, how it works is they appear at opposite ends of a standard size American football field. We don't know how big that is, but it's bigger than an Australian football field, I think. And squarer on the edges. That's right. Anyway, how it works is they appear at opposite ends of a standard size American football field. We don't know how big that is, but it's bigger than an Australian football field, I think.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And square on the edges. That's right. That's exactly right. That's going to be important. Everybody remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, square edges. That's going to come up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:17 If one of the characters has to bake a giant pan of brownies, maybe that's their power set. I don't know. Maybe. Then that would be very important. Anyway, the two characters clock one another. They say hello. They understand that the other one is dangerous.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yep. And they attempt to defeat their opponent in whatever way they normally would. Yes. If the character is known for subduing their opponent non-lethally, they'll do that. Yep. Or the opposite. Or the opposite.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Or they'll do a big murder. That's right. That's right. It'll do a big murder. That's right. That's right. It's never resolved through conversation. That's right. It's always a fight. Unless the character only has their conversation. Unless they won't.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Oh, okay, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The characters will have only the equipment they would normally have on a standard day out. Yeah, that's right. A baby's day out. Which normally doesn't include a vehicle unless it's a vehicle they can summon.
Starting point is 00:50:06 But can they stay alive enough until, say, Michael Kitten's Batman's Batwing gets there? That's right, and gets them in the nuts. That's about it. Our rulings are final. We'll talk it through. Our rulings are final, but also if you have a different opinion, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And we don't want to know about it. We don't want to know about it. We do not want to know about it. So keep it to yourself or tell your friends when you're telling them about the podcast. Maybe you've got normal friends like me and this is your discussion you have. Now, these are taken across. So emails, Wicked Planet Reddit,
Starting point is 00:50:35 Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Group and Twitter. Now, we got hundreds of these. So if I haven't seen yours, I apologize. If I haven't included it, I apologize. You have seen it. You're ignoring it. I've seen it and I said no, thank you. No, there's a good chance that if you think you sent an excellent one
Starting point is 00:50:49 and I didn't do it, it's because I probably didn't see it because it was excellent. I would have just put it in. That's right. But I didn't. So in this particular scenario that we're doing, we're going to have two people, though the people are not exclusively, but they're played by the same actor.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Two characters played by the same actor. Yes, that is the wrinkler of this. I was going to do some chat GPT ones. Oh, yeah. And I've got it open. You were very keen on asking AI. That was two months ago. A couple of months ago, you were hot on the trail of that AI goldmine,
Starting point is 00:51:18 and you were like, let's ask AI what they think. It's boring. Like, I put a few of these in, and it's like, well, superheroes, they have different abilities and I guess this person could win or this person could win. Take a stand, chat GPT. So, listen, if we can't decide
Starting point is 00:51:34 maybe we'll defer to it. I've got it ready, but I'm not banking on this being anything interesting or even using it. Anyway, here's like a pretty simple, straightforward one to start with. We've probably even done it before. This is from. Z Word on Twitter who says hashtag weeklyplanetpod. You still taking these? Yes, this is the first one.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And the last one. That's right. Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern versus Ryan Reynolds Deadpool X-Men Origins. So not his Deadpool where he's... Not the Merc with a mouth, but he might have a teleporting time machine, etc. But he's the mute, sordid, laser-eyed Deadpool. He's very sordid.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I would argue that the other Deadpool's more sordid than him. That's probably true. Although this one can teleport. And he's got laser eyes. Do you think he'd be able to? Ryan Reynolds could. No, technically he doesn't have laser eyes. He has cyclops eyes.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Blah, blah, blah. I was going to be like, you put him in a bubble and throw him into space. But he can teleport, so he can get out of the bubble. Can he, though? I assume so. Why wouldn't he be able to? See, the thing about Green Lantern is his powers are so vast and vague. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Maybe it would work once, but then he could be like, how about a bubble that he can't teleport out of? I'll just think of that. Yeah, but is that how it works? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So he'd get out of the bubble once because then he'd be like,
Starting point is 00:52:43 oh, well, I'll just make one he can't get out of. But he could get out at once, get behind him and behead regular Green Lantern. Unless that Green Lantern's like, how about I make a bubble that you can't behead me when I'm in it. Yeah. I don't know. He's just not a very good Green Lantern. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:52:58 My immediate thought would be Green Lantern because his powers are pretty much whatever he imagined. But we're saying this particular Green Lantern, the one in the movies. This particular one, though, is like limited. He's like, I'm going to build a Hot Wheels track. Exactly. Like the one in the comic book ones, their powers, the power essentially is anything you can imagine.
Starting point is 00:53:16 So you could be like, I'm going to create a bubble that turns lasers into music or whatever. And then the bad guys shoot the lasers and it turns into whatever. But like this guy seems to be pretty limited to bubbles and jets and machine guns and whatever. You're absolutely right. What's the range on that teleport, do you think? Well, I think you see him do it across, like, a silo. A cooling tower.
Starting point is 00:53:35 A cooling tower, whatever. So I think he could do a standard-sized football field. The entire thing, you think? And he's not – well, the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern is not good hand-to-hand. No, that's true. So maybe it's Deadpool. What, you think. And he's not, well, Ryan Reynolds' Green Lantern is not good hand to hand. No, that's true. So maybe it's Deadpool. What do you think? Well, also, Green Lantern, he's going to quip, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah. And this Deadpool is not going to quip at all. He don't quip. He's going to be straight into the murders, I think. He doesn't quip and he doesn't quip. Yeah, I also think that this Deadpool is, he is not, he's going to go for the murders immediately. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And he's going to go straight into it. I think the Greenland, the Ryan Reynolds Greenland is going to. He's probably not going to expect him to teleport behind him and behead him, which is what he would probably do immediately. Like if it was regular Deadpool, he'd be like, I'm doing a joke. We're the same. And then he'll do a slow motion gun shoot or something. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And also we've got like like if I'm going to remember an iconic action beat from either of those characters, it is Green Lantern with the big mini gun shooting the green bullets and we've got Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool, that version, deflecting a bunch of bullets with a bunch of swords. Yeah, I think he's going to probably deflect all those bullets. Yeah. Assuming they're not bullets that he's made to be, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:50 armor-piercing, sword-piercing bullets. I think also if he had like a bit of time to know who this guy was, he would probably be prepared. Is he afraid of racetracks, for example, you might think? Exactly. And I can make a glowing green racetrack? He would go to a glowing green racetrack or a fist and then he'd be beheaded.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that would be it. Have you gone into this biased towards, do you think it's wed you for original Deadpool to have his day in the sun, if you will? From X-Men Origins? Yes. No, I don't like either of these characters.
Starting point is 00:55:20 That's terrific. Okay. It's not like I'm like, wow, I hope this one wins. Yes, exactly. As far as I'm concerned, they both could kill each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's terrific. Okay. It's not like I'm like, wow, I hope this one wins. Yes. As far as I'm concerned, they both could kill each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Also, I think this dead poor can definitely survive one of those
Starting point is 00:55:32 big green fists. Oh, 100%. He gets beheaded, he's alive. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Now, how Jordan Green Lanterns ring in the comic books, it can protect him from mortal danger once, I think. Isn't it? So I'm assuming it's got some, like, defence mechanisms built into it. But this one doesn't. I haven't seen that in this. Are those adamantium swords?
Starting point is 00:55:53 Yes. Interesting. Yeah. Cut through a green construct? I think probably, yeah. And also the head's exposed. Yeah, yeah. You can just go through his head.
Starting point is 00:56:01 All right. I think it's a pretty. I think you're absolutely right. I think it's a very quick teleport behind. Let's ask AI. No, no, no, yeah. You can just go through his head. All right, I think it's a pretty, I think you're absolutely right. I think it's a very quick teleport behind. Let's ask AI. No, no, no, no. Okay. You've convinced me.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah. What if it says we're wrong? Well, good. Good. You know what? How about this? At the end, we'll go back to this one. We'll go back to this one.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Fine. And see what it says. Maybe I'll put it in now and just wait for it to figure it out. Okay, great. Or say, give me a lengthy essay. You're paying for this? Is this free? No, I think you just used a Google account or something.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Interesting. I can't remember. I don't remember. I don't like it. Okay. Anyway. All right. Anyway, this is a list that Mason and I have compiled previously.
Starting point is 00:56:36 So here we go. This is from Craig's Full 360. It says Blind Donnie Yen from Rogue One versus Blind Donnie Yen from John Wick 4. Interesting. One of them has a gun. Which one? Well, I'm assuming this means the one from John Wick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Now, I feel like the Blind Donnie Yen from Rogue One gets by on faith and luck and destiny. Like he gets to walk across and not get shot and flick the switch and then he dies afterwards because he fulfilled his role in the force, where in this scenario he would just get immediately shot. Yeah. See, the thing is that I think Donnie Yen, John Wick 4, is not a man of peace.
Starting point is 00:57:17 No. He's a man. He wants to be. Yeah. But again, they immediately perceive each other as enemies and I think Donnie Yen, John Wick 4, he's going to immediately go for the headshot, right? Yeah, and he does multiple times, unless it's John Wick
Starting point is 00:57:33 and then he'll get close and do it. But I mean, they're both blind. How are they perceiving each other from the other side of the football field? They know something's wrong. Oh, he's a, I guess, but I think, okay, I think Don, I think. You think they get there and they go, huh. And they don't know what's happened?
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah, I think Rogue One is going to know there's a situation happening far before. The other one does. John Wick 4. Like significantly before. But how? Through what means? The Force.
Starting point is 00:58:00 He doesn't have the Force. He does though. No, he doesn't. Let's Google. Could you go on Wookieepedia and find out? I'll go on ChatGTP. That's not going to work. Does Donnie Yen's character, you look it up,
Starting point is 00:58:10 from Rogue One have the AI? I can't believe we're going to the AI. I know. It's not going to know either, or it's going to be, hmm, here we go. Yeah, skilled warrior Balor is not a Jedi. He's depicted having a deep spiritual connection to the Force and a strong belief in his powers.
Starting point is 00:58:26 His abilities are not explicitly defined as due to being the force or other reasons. Okay. Yeah. Okay, but I say regardless of the force, and it is the force, his range of perception I think is further. Okay, sure. Right?
Starting point is 00:58:42 Yeah. I mean I guess also in a room like donnie yen from john wick is better in like a closed off space like a big open air yeah scenario see i think donnie i rogue i keep going well i think about donnie and well they're both donnie i think rogue one i think he's gonna piss yeah i think he's gonna perceive the other guy first. But I don't know whether that's going to help him, though. Yeah. Right? Do you think he'd say something?
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah, maybe. And then he'd just shoot him? He'd be like, hello, stranger, and then he'd just shoot him? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. He's got a gun. He's got that gun. He does have that gun.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I even think hand-to-hand I think the John Wick guy would win because I know he's got that stick, but he's also good hand-to-hand and he has a gun. Yeah, they don't know a lot of juiu-jitsu in the Star Wars universe. He does some stuff with the stick but the stick's got a piece of kyber crystal in it and he can hear it. He can hear it like vibrating and that's why he can fight with it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Yeah. Right. And John Wick 4, Donnie Yen has those little doorbell things. He's got doorbells. Yeah. Does he have enough doorbells to cover a standard size American football field? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I don't think he does. We don't know the range of his rucksack where he keeps his doorbells. That's true. Anyway, I think it's John McFaul, but you think it's the other guy? I mean, granted he could probably shoot him in the head, but I think you're not factoring in that Rogue One Donnie Yen could deflect that bullet. With what?
Starting point is 01:00:08 His head. He's staff of the Kyber Crystal. It's a wooden stick. Yes. It's not a lightsaber. But it's sturdy, though, and it's got that Kyber Crystal you mentioned. You get him right on the Kyber Crystal. No, also.
Starting point is 01:00:22 You're not factoring in that fate you mentioned. Star Wars blaster bolts are slower than regular bullets. So he probably wouldn't get to it in time. It would probably just go. Are we factoring in that all the characters in Star Wars are 100 feet tall? Oh, yeah. I forgot that. And Donnie Yen presumably is a regular size man.
Starting point is 01:00:38 He would just stand on him. You're right. Yeah, you're right. Okay. The guy from Star Wars. Moving on. Alf Schofield says, got a match-up idea. This is going to be Alf for a moment.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Oh, I wish. Got a match-up idea for Superhero Showdown. Joel from the last of a series versus the Mandalorian versus Pedro Pascal from the Merge Mansion ad. Oh, no. Now, you're a Merge Mansion aficionado. I'm not. I'm a Merge maniac.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Is he a killer? I don't think he's a killer. Would he detect that he's about to get shot? He's more of a, I don't really know, but is he involved in some sort of sordid romance perhaps? I don't know. I've never seen a second of those ads. All right, he's dead.
Starting point is 01:01:14 He's dead. He's not going to be in it. So it comes down to Joel. Joel will kill him straight away. Do you have a car with some fuel in it? Yes. Bang. Bang.
Starting point is 01:01:24 What have you got in your mansion? Bang. Bang, you're dead. Now it comes down to the last of us, Joel. Now you've already expressed some strong feelings, I feel, on the Mandalorian versus Joel. But also the Mandalorian is armoured. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:38 And he's a very quick shot. And he's not 60 years old. That's correct. Which Joel is from The Last of Us. Okay, but the last time he discussed this, you were like, Joel's got it. I don't know if that's true though because The Mandalorian is bulletproof. James, in a way there are two.
Starting point is 01:01:56 There are two Pedro Pascals in you. Sure. Both are heartthrobs, Mason. That's exactly right. But also there's no one in the armour from The Mandalorian. Oh, is this a meta logic loophole of some sort? It's simply the voice. But there's a guy in there though, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:02:12 And he's a stuntman. He's a stuntman, yeah. He's a stuntman, yeah. No, I just think because he's bulletproof and he's a quick draw and he has more, like Joel's probably only got like three bullets. Does Joel have Ellie with him? I think he does. Do we talk about companions?
Starting point is 01:02:26 I mean, does Doc have Marty? You know, like what are we talking about here? Does Batman have Robin? No. So. But I think there's been plenty of Batman and Robin solo adventures separately. But has there ever been a. Yes, there's that episode where Ellie goes to the mall and plays Mortal Kombat.
Starting point is 01:02:44 The Mandalorian's also a killer. And if there's one thing he's good at, he's good at a quick Yes, there's that episode where Ellie goes to the mall and plays Mortal Kombat. The Mandalorian's also a killer, and if there's one thing he's good at, he's good at a quick draw. That's true. And his bulletproof. Is he a good shot? Yeah, he is. Is he a- okay. And he's a killer, yes.
Starting point is 01:02:54 He is a killer. I don't like it, but I think the Mandalorian is too plot-armoured and literally armoured for a regular man. Yeah. And Joel would have to get in close to hand-to-hand him. That's true. And even then, I don't know whether he could. Yeah, because Joel would have to get in close to hand-to-hand him. That's true. And even then, I don't know whether he could. Yeah, because Joel would have to be good enough.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Joel would be good at, like, sneaking up and, like, stabbing him in the neck. Oh, yeah. But you can't do that on a football field. No. No, which is unfair in our... In terms of, like, brutality. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:19 It would be, if it was no armor, a fight, it would 100% be Joel. How vulnerable are those jetpacks? I mean, he wouldn't even- That's the weak point, I think. But he wouldn't even know, like, what he's looking at. That's true. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:31 He hasn't even seen The Mandalorian because he went into- That's true. The Last of Us in 2003. But he's seen Return of the Jedi, hasn't he? But he doesn't know it's bulletproof. He's in bulletproof armour. Yeah, but I'm saying- Oh, he's seen Return of the Jedi.
Starting point is 01:03:43 He's seen Return of the Jedi, so he would know that there's a weak point in that jetpack. I've never seen that jetpack malfunction, though, his jetpack. Has it? Oh, yeah, but you've got to... I think you have to... And he's got to shoot a spot. What's he even aiming for? Just the back.
Starting point is 01:03:59 But he'd have to get to the back of him. Yeah, well, I think... Look, I'm just saying, let's play out all the eventualities here. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying he's looking at a guy, it's a Return of the Jedi guy, and all of a sudden his jet pack, he's probably covering the distance with that jet pack.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I didn't even think he would. I think he'd just shoot him from across the fucking. I don't think he's that good. I think he is. I think if he had time to set up like his big rifle, I think he could get him from that distance. He doesn't even have that anymore. He's just got a blaster.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Does he have Grogu with him? No. Because he's got the Force, Mason. That's right. I guess Ali couldn't try and murder Grogu. That's right. Okay, that's happening separately. That's happening separately, but they're played by different actors.
Starting point is 01:04:39 That's off in the side, so it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Ali with a switchblade versus Grogu. I'm saying that this isn't as cut and dried as you think it is. Okay. But why wouldn't the Mandalorian just shoot him? Because I think that's too far. But that's what he does.
Starting point is 01:04:53 He does it all the time. He's a shoot first guy. And the idea is that you perceive the other person as a threat. If you kill him, you kill. Yeah, but I don't think he's – I think that's too far for a handheld blaster. I think like by – based on like the tropes of what he is, he's like a cowboy doing like a quick draw. Football field is too far to get an accurate shot.
Starting point is 01:05:14 So I think Joel could potentially get out of the way of that. As you said, it's slower than a regular bullet, isn't it? Yeah, it is. But also he – and then what happens? I'm not saying Joel isn't going to lose. I'm just saying that this isn't – He wouldn't lose immediately. He wouldn't lose instantly.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I'm saying that probably Mando is going to try and cover the distance with the jet pack. Yeah. And does he ever do across the ground like a real quick – He'll do a roll. He might do a roll, yeah, yeah, but I'm saying does he ever – is he always going vertically in the jet pack? No, he'll go across the ground, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Okay, right, right, right, right. Also, what we're not factoring in here is the Mandalorian is 100 feet tall. Oh, my God, I forgot. All right, yeah, so he just takes one single step, squish. Yep. All right, moving on. But I'm saying, all I'm saying is otherwise, if we're playing fairy tales and they're both the same size,
Starting point is 01:06:01 I'm saying if Mando misses the first shot and then he attempts to get at him with a jet pack, if Joel can get behind him and hits that jet pack, I think he's got a chance to get in there and cut his throat. Yeah, that's a lot of like ifs and buts and whatever. And how do you do that to someone who's 100 feet tall? That's so true. You climb him like he's a bloody one of those bodies.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Colossus. One of those colossi, exactly. Here's one from Jamie. Oh, yes. Who's Jamie Beedon who says, how about Christopher Lambert, Connor McLeod? Oh, yes. So he's the Highlander, obviously, one of,
Starting point is 01:06:35 versus the Mortal Kombat Raiden played by Christopher Lambert. Now on paper, he says, Raiden would just fry him. And that's true. Yes. But Highlander is mostly immortal. Uh-huh. So maybe it's closer than it appears. But Highlander also, he's always been around electricity.
Starting point is 01:06:53 That's true. He's loving it. He's drinking it in. He's always absorbing it and using his sword to deflect it or whatever. He'll cut off another immortal's head and then the quickening will begin, the transfer of the power, and he'll go yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Which is his catchphrase. So do you think he would absorb the lightning from Raiden?
Starting point is 01:07:08 No, it's a different lighting. I think he'd die. It's different. Yeah, I think he'd die. But he wouldn't die, die. No, he wouldn't die. You're absolutely right. So do you think maybe Raiden, oh, Raiden's 100 feet tall, I forgot.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Everyone in Mortal Kombat's like, no. Do you think Raiden would kill him initially? Yes. Connor McCloud would rise up and then behead him Mortal Kombat style? Here's the thing, though. Because Raiden can be killed. Yeah. Oh, yes, because he's taken on mortal form.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Well, here's the thing about that thing about Raiden is, is that Raiden's fatality in the original Mortal Kombat was he zaps the guy so hard his head bursts. Yes. So. Does that kill a Highlander? Yeah. Because beheading a Highlander would kill them.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Yes. But would he. Bursting the head would also kill them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But would he go for that initially or would he want some kind of combat? Well, yes. Like is Raiden an appear in an Exploder guy's head? Not immediately.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Or is he like, does he go in with all these moves? I think if we're going by the rules of Mortal Kombat. Which we are. He'd have to beat him up a little bit first. You could zap him with the electricity. Yeah. But that would also, if he you could zap him with the electricity yeah but that would also if he zapped him once with the electricity that would kill conor mcleod for a
Starting point is 01:08:10 second i mean maybe but he does it to plenty of people in the game and they don't die immediately yeah but they're all yeah that's true even the humans are like magical and immortal and metal arms and whatever whereas conor mcleod aside from being someone who can come back from the dead, is as strong as the physiology of a normal human being. Normal-ish. But just that he doesn't age. Yes, that's true. And you can explode his head.
Starting point is 01:08:35 It's also true, yes. I don't know. I think because Raiden can be killed with a sword. But then again, you see Mortal Kombat like. Does that Raiden have a sword? No, he's got a staff or a hammer or something. Okay, all right. He does have a weapon in one of the games. But.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I'm going to have to. But if you're Baraka fighting Raiden. Yes. And you're using, like it's not killing him immediately. You'd kill him in a finishing move. That's true. Like you'd behead him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:57 But does Connor McLeod, he would just go for a beheading immediately, I assume? Not necessarily. I mean, if he killed him, he would. He'd probably get up and kill and behead him immediately, I assume. Not necessarily. I mean, if he killed him, he would. He'd probably get up and kill and behead him straight away. Yeah. Yeah, I imagine if you are a Highlander style immortal, you would go for the head.
Starting point is 01:09:14 You would go for the chopping off the head just in case. Especially if it's like, yeah, it's a lightning guy. You're like, this is probably one of my guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. James, you would clearly know he's not one of your guys because you wouldn't sense it. Oh, you wouldn't feel it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you'd clearly know he's not one of your guys because you wouldn't sense it. Oh, you wouldn't feel it, yeah. Well, you'd probably think it was something in some sort of realm. Yeah, he'd be like, this is my wheelhouse. I better chop this guy's head off, honestly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is familiar to me. And he's wearing that rice paddy hat, so, you know, clearly he's encountered one of us before. This is a tough one.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I reckon that Connor McLeod is probably more lightning resistant than a normal man on a cannibal. Because he's done it before. All the times he's been struck by lightning, yes. Yeah. Latin Lontrana, okay. Just to be clear, a regular person can kill a Highlander, is that right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Or an immortal. If you kill them, you can kill an immortal anyway. You can kill a normal person. Yeah. Like if you shoot them. But they will come back. They will come back to life unless you cut their head off, in which case they will not come back.
Starting point is 01:10:12 But you don't get the lightning unless you're an immortal killing another immortal. Yeah. And then you get knowledge of the universe or something at the end? Let's say you do, sure. That'd be so cool. I don't know, man. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:23 I want to say Connor McCloud. Oh, yes. Because he'd behead him with the sword. And Raiden wouldn't expect that. He's used to killing somebody and they fall down. That's true. And they have to wait a whole game to come back. That's true.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Or he's waiting for somebody to put another coin in. Yeah, that's right. No, you're probably right. And Connor McCloud wouldn't even do that thing where he's, like, staggered to finish him. He'd just fall over. He'd just fall like a sack of potatoes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Because I even think if you hit Connor McCloud with like any of Raiden's like special moves, that would probably kill Connor McCloud. Isn't that Superman charge? Yeah. I don't think that would kill you. Maybe not. But it would at the very least knock the wind out of him. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Yeah. I don't know. I'm going to say Connor McCloud, but you don't have to say that. If Connor McCloud didn't kill him with the sword when he came back, Raiden would kill him immediately, though. He would just explode his head, I feel then. Also, hand-to-hand, like, Connor McCloud is, I know he's an okay swordsman, I guess, for an 80s swordsman.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yeah. But he's not, like, a hand-to-hand guy. No, if this were Duncan McCloud, for an 80s swordsman. Yeah. But he's not like a hand-to-hand guy. No, if this were Duncan McLeod, it'd be a different story. But he's played by Adrian Paul, because he's all about he's got like a jiu-jitsu. Are they brothers, are they? No. Are they from the same McLeod? Yes. Are they from the same cloud?
Starting point is 01:11:37 Yes, they're from the same cloud. This could go either way for me. But we have to. I would say Connor McLeod. Yeah, let's go with Connor McLeod. Yeah, because he's 100 feet tall. Yeah, yeah. What about this one?
Starting point is 01:11:50 From Peter Jason Quill. Oh, yes. Zorro versus Puss in Boots. Both of them Antonio Banderas. Okay. I mean, they're both Zorro. Is Zorro going to kill a cat? Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Then Zorro. I mean, Puss in Boots isn't that good at fighting. No, depending on the movie. Did you see the new one? Also, the rule is it's peak whatever character it is. I haven't seen the new one, no. I think also Puss in Boots is not, I mean, I know he is an assassin. I mean, logically, I think probably what would happen is Puss in Boots
Starting point is 01:12:25 would scratch Zorro and then because of the era in which he lives he'd get tetanus and die. But later. Yeah, sometime later, which is a victory I think. Yeah. But will he kill the cat before that happens, you know? See, Zorro is a killer. I think this is your wheelhouse.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah, you're right. You love Puss in Boots and you love Zorro. Yes, but I love Zorro more. But bearing in mind if Zorro defeats Puss in Boots, he'll Zorro. Yes, but I love Zorro more. But bearing in mind, if Zorro defeats Puss in Boots, he'll scratch a tiny little Z into him. Yeah. Maybe with a toothpick or something. Zorro's not a killer unless he's like bent on revenge or he has to.
Starting point is 01:12:58 That's true. But in a scenario where. Is Puss in Boots a killer? Well, yeah, because he was sent to kill Shrek, unless that was his first maybe his first mission but we don't know that but the storyline is that he's a a known assassin okay all right and we even theorized that puss in boots killed a bunch of ogres and that's why they sent him okay all right let's say he's a killer then so i think they're both killers
Starting point is 01:13:19 but i think puss in boots is also supernaturally fast in the way that Zorro isn't. And he can jump further. I think it's probably the cat. Interesting. Because the cat, even if it was just a cat, a cat is faster than a man. But he's not just a cat. That's true. He's a fairytale magical cat with boots and a sword.
Starting point is 01:13:39 That's true. So it's probably Puss in Boots. Okay. Though I would do like the idea of Zorro. But Zorro has a gun, as he sometimes does. Sometimes does. And a whip. He's got a whip.
Starting point is 01:13:46 It's true. I do like the idea of Puss in Boots jumping at him and Zorro just skewering him out of the air. Yes, like a shish kebab. But I don't think Puss in Boots would let that happen. Okay. Because by the time we get to Puss in Boots, the second movie, he's never been touched by a blade.
Starting point is 01:14:00 And in that, he literally defeats death in a sword fight. Okay. So, you know. All right. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. And Antonio Banderas just cut the dress off Catherine Zeta-Jones. And whilst that's cool and sexy.
Starting point is 01:14:12 It is cool and sexy. Yeah. All right. Okay. It's probably Puss in Boots. You're absolutely right. I think the fairytale magic takes that one. What about this one from That Guy who says,
Starting point is 01:14:20 a version of Rocky from every Rocky movie all teamed up against King Shark. Okay. So the voice of King Shark from the Suicide Squad movie is also to this line. I don't know. But that shark would just eat every Rocky. Yeah, no, that's not even. Rocky's not a killer also.
Starting point is 01:14:39 No. He's like he could accidentally kill someone in the boxing ring potentially. Yeah, yeah, or in a car park. Or in a car park. Yes. Over the price of fish or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:48 So every Rocky in their prime. Also, every Rocky is, it's still the same Rocky. Yes. So I guess we're allowing a scenario where there's, even Rocky has cancer Rocky in there. Yeah, even deaf Rocky. Deaf Rocky. Deaf Rocky, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Rocky who doesn't come back for Creed 3 Rocky, so nobody. Creed 1 Restauranteur Rocky. Yep. These are all good. That's Cancer Rocky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can make him separate though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And Creed 2 Rocky is just Coach Rocky. Yeah, Coach Rocky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's buried the hatch with the Drago brothers. Yes, that's eight Rockies. That's eight Rockies. They still don't have a chance against King Shark. No, no way.
Starting point is 01:15:26 It's Shark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's real tough. He's bulletproof. What are they going to do, punch him? Yeah. With gloved hands? Come on.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Here's one, Mason. I assume significant year 743. Is that a significant year? Yeah. Great. Jennifer Lawrence. That's it. Just the actor Jennifer Lawrence.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Yeah, I think she's cool. Silver Linings playbook. Oh, yeah. Versus that Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah, I think she's cool. Silver Linings Playbook. Oh, yeah. Versus that woman that Chris Pratt wakes up on a spaceship and forces to fall in love. Passengers Jennifer Lawrence. Yep, okay. No, it's Katniss Everdeen versus Mystique.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Okay, all right, all right. Now, Katniss Everdeen is obviously a long-range, excellent sharpshooter. But have you ever seen, how many times have you seen Mystique get hit? It's very rarely. And she can turn into a fire hydrant. And she can turn into a fire hydrant.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Yeah. Or Hugh Jackman. That's so true. At any point in time, she could turn into Hugh Jackman. But that's a useless power in this. No, but she's also really athletic. I mean, I know she has been shot. There was that time she was killed by Dark Phoenix.
Starting point is 01:16:23 She was skewered or whatever. Yeah. been shot. There was that time she was killed by Dark Phoenix. She was skewered or whatever. Yeah. But a regular arrow is not going to kill Mystique or touch her. So it would be a matter of Mystique crossing the field.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Yeah, okay. But I think you are confusing Jennifer. I am confusing. You're very confusing. All your words and your deeds. You're a man of contradictions. But also, I'm being confusing Jennifer Lawrence mystique with Rebecca Romijn mystique who is way more. That's an interesting point.
Starting point is 01:16:50 She is way more physically imposing and she is more prone to like real like. Neck snapping. Yeah, and like physical feats and she does a lot of like, you know, flipping over people. Slithering about. Slithering about and flipping over people's heads and getting them in the old leg lock and twisting their head off or whatever. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:17:09 The Jennifer Lawrence Mystique doesn't do a lot of action stuff really. Just walks around. She just walks around. We don't know how far she is really. That's a good point. We've seen her like do some action. Yeah. You're right, nothing.
Starting point is 01:17:21 She doesn't like fight with her feet and stuff like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the question is how many shots can Katniss get off before Mystique closes the distance? Because I think, again, Katniss is a very good shot, right? Yeah. She would go for the heart as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Or the head. Yeah. But at football field distance, I think she'd miss the first shot. She wouldn't be expecting a woman turning into a fire hydrant. Yeah. Or like that kind of speed. That's true. If she is that fast.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Yes. Which I think this version is not because she's getting paid too much. Yeah. Because Jennifer Lawrence is getting paid too much in those movies to do anything physically quickly or, in fact, have any makeup on at all. Anyway, those are four great movies that she's in maybe. Four great movies. Four to five great movies.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Oh, my God, so many great movies. At least half of those movies I think are okay. I think if Katniss can get a beat on Peter. Yes, yes, exactly. Yeah, all the other people she shoots at. She did win a bunch of Hunger Games. That's what I'm saying. I reckon if she can, it's like she misses the first one,
Starting point is 01:18:21 she misses the second one. She'd lead her shot. She would figure out the zigging and the zagging. She would figure out how fast Mystique is. And Mystique's nude as well. I don't know whether that's relevant. It's not irrelevant. No, no.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Because her clothes wouldn't get caught on anything. And that's relevant to me. That is relevant. I think that's true. I reckon it might be Katniss. Yeah, I think you're right, actually. Arrows in the heart. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Mecca Romaine? No. Also, Katniss is 100 feet tall. Oh, yeah. I forgot she's from the Hunger Games universe. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, actually. Arrows in the Heart. Yeah. Rebecca Romijn? No. Also, Katniss is 100 feet tall. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I forgot she's from the Hunger Games universe. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:48 God. The Empty Tummyverse. Yeah. And the X-Men universe, they're only 19 feet tall. That's true. It's nowhere near big enough. Yeah. This is from T Clock, who says, Dark Knight Rises Bane versus Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock.
Starting point is 01:19:03 It says, but Bane has all the bombs under the pitch like in the film. Oh, yeah. Sure. He's not going to set them off while he's on the pitch, is he? He can't leave the pitch. He might just be on the edge of the pitch. But also, like, even if he did set them off, I don't think that would kill Venom.
Starting point is 01:19:18 My question there, he's just said Eddie Brock, though. Tom Hardy, Eddie Brock, yes. So is Venom there at all? I assume so. I mean, if he's at the peak, I'm assuming. Yeah, okay, though. Tom Hardy, Eddie Brock. Yeah. So is Venom there at all? I assume. I mean, if he's at the peak, I'm assuming. Yeah, okay, right. That's a good point. But maybe he's at his emotional peak, i.e. before he got divorced.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I don't think he was emotionally well, though. No, you're probably right. Yeah, you're absolutely right. All right, let's assume Venom is there. Okay, if he's not, Venom's going to break him in half. It's interesting that they both use Venom but not this version of Bane. Makes you think, doesn't it? I think, yeah, regular comic book Bane, sure, this is a fight
Starting point is 01:19:50 where he probably still loses maybe. I think. But Bane is a man. Yeah, look, comic book Venom versus comic book Bane, even if the writers are not on Bane's side and this is some sort of crossing. It's a DC Marvel crossover. Venom v. Venom.
Starting point is 01:20:11 And it's not in continuity. It's like an out of continuity adventure or whatever. And he's got the Venom juice in him. Yeah. Bane does. I think Venom would still bite his head off. Yeah, I agree. So I don't think that's a – and I think –
Starting point is 01:20:24 And this is – Dark Knight Rises is a man. He's I agree. So I don't think that's a – and I think – And this is – Dark Knight Rises is a man. He's just a regular man more or less. He's big. He's like, well, I don't feel pain. It's like, well, that doesn't help you not get beheaded. That's right. It's going to get bitten off.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Yeah. Yeah, that's a short fight I think. I mean the bombs would – Bane would probably set the bombs off, but I don't – he's got tendrils. That's true. I don't think it would matter at all. How does Bane set – Does he have a thumb trigger? He's got a thing, actually.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Okay, look, I would guess this is. I think Venom would make his way across the pitch, dog run. Bane would set the bombs off. He would use his tendrils to close that gap after the floor gives out. Because the bombs aren't going up, like exploding upwards. It's not like he's going to be covered in fire. Yeah. Which would stop him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:10 It's just a collapsing of a football ground. Yeah. Of an NFL pitch. This is either a very quick Venom beheading of Bane or it's a- What are beheadings? I think they're both going to die. Really? Or Venom. I think Bane is going to lose regardless.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Great. This is a good one, I think. Well, these are lose regardless. I agree. Great. This is a good one, I think. These are all great. Let me just specify. Some Sean Kirby who says the Joker versus Luke Skywalker. Oh, Mark Hamill Joker.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Now I'm going to assume that we go Luke Skywalker in his prime. Some people would say The Last Jedi where he uses all his force abilities to make a force projection of himself. Or some people would say the Luke Skywalker who does flips. Yeah, that's true. Some would say the present day, the one in the bloody Mandalorian. That's what I'm saying. Where he chops up a bunch of robots.
Starting point is 01:21:53 That's what I'm saying. I think that's what people would probably consider to be the strongest Luke Skywalker. Okay, but what's the one that would upset the most number of people? It would be the Luke Skywalker old guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he could use a holographic projection. We don't really know what kind of fighter that guy is, though. Like, we know he fights Rey, sort of, but he's not really kind of. Also, though, how is that going to work in a football field when we already know that
Starting point is 01:22:17 Skywalker is there? Yeah. Like, he's not, we can't do a reveal where he's on another planet, because we have to assume he's physically in the stadium. Yeah. Also, does that even work on the Joker? Yeah. Also, he's 100 feet tall.
Starting point is 01:22:30 He's 100 feet tall. Let's assume that he's not, though. Okay. Right, right, right. Let's assume they're both 100 feet tall. Okay, great. I mean, he's got the force. And the Joker would have a gun and some gadgets.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if Luke Skywalker really wanted to kill somebody, which he does, he is a murderer. That's true. He blew up the Death Star. Yeah. He's chopped a million guys to pieces with a lightsaber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think he would, if he thought he was truly dangerous,
Starting point is 01:22:54 he could just incapacitate him with the Force. That's true. Like immediately. I don't think this would be a fight. Yeah. Yeah. He's got the Force. That's true.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I'm just trying to think of any kind of way. Like the Joker would get in his brain or something? Be like, whoa. I'm a psychological warfare. That's true. I'm just trying to think of any kind of way the Joker would get in his brain or something. Be like, whoa. I'm a psychological warfare. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:23:11 You know? Yeah. Like, where's your dad? Where's he? What's up there? What's going on there? He's a tough one. You got some daddy issues?
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yes. Everyone knows that. You okay today? You all right? I'm fine. Acid flower. I don't think an acid flower would stop Luke Skywalker. Even if it hit him.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yeah, that's true. Yeah. He doesn't care. All his bits are coming off. He's coming off. He's coming apart, mate. It's interesting because Luke Skywalker at his peak also has depression. I think maybe that is something.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Yeah. I think even like Return of the Jedi era has still, he still has depression. He mostly has depression. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I think, I mean,
Starting point is 01:23:53 I think the Joker's only chance there is if he gets in his head. Yeah. And like maybe tries to, I mean, that's his whole vibe, right? But the Joker would have to know enough about him, which he can do. Like he can read a person and be like. But I think just a man who appears and has magic powers and a laser sword, I think he'd be like, what's that?
Starting point is 01:24:13 What's this? What if he pretended he was a wittle baby? The Joker can sometimes pretend he's a wittle baby. Yeah, I guess he could pretend he's a wittle baby. I don't know what's happening here. Oh, I'm a wittle baby. You know what he's like? I guess that could work. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know what's happening here. Oh, I'm a wittle baby. You know what he's like. I guess that could work.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And as a result, he would win. I think so too. I can put it into chat. No. Okay. Never. You don't want to know?
Starting point is 01:24:36 No, I think you're right. It's Luke Skywalker. All right. Who would win? I'm just asking myself. I'm just texting my mum. Oh, yeah. You're texting your mum who would win between Luke Skywalker
Starting point is 01:24:45 and Batman in the animated series Joker. Joker is highly intelligent, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a powerful Jedi knight. Blah, blah. This is mum. You know what she's like. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Luke Skywalker could be a significant advantage due to his mastery of the force in combat. Yeah, mum, whatever. But the Joker's unpredictability and ability to think outside the box could make the fight a challenge for Luke. Overall, it's impossible to say who would win this hypothetical battle. Oh, I wonder if they're all like that. I bet they are.
Starting point is 01:25:07 A lot of the ones I looked at were. Anyway, thanks, Mum. Joker's got a lot of bombs and stuff also. Sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got to assume he's got a bunch of. Yeah. He's got that gun that says bang.
Starting point is 01:25:16 You could just hold him with the force. That's true. What about this one from Mike the Voice Monkey? Chris Pratt, Star-Lord, versus Guy from Jurassic World? Or maybe this one I was going to put in, Keanu Reeves Neo versus John Wick. Which one do you want to do? At their peak?
Starting point is 01:25:34 Let's not do both because that would be unfair. Ooh. I mean, I feel like Star-Lord would just kill Jurassic World Guy, shoot him. Would he kill a normal man, just a regular man? Yeah, if he was a threat. Okay, let me. Would he kill a normal man, just a regular man? Yeah, he can't solo. Yeah, if he was a threat. Okay, let me, if we can work through this,
Starting point is 01:25:50 what has his character from Jurassic World got? He's got that. Everybody knows what, James, you don't have to explain it. Everybody knows what he's doing. He's just got that, does he? He doesn't carry any weapons. Oh, he might have a tranquilizer dart. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Peter Quill can fly. He's stupid, though. He's stupid. Peter Quill can fly. He's stupid, though. He's stupid. Peter Quill is way stupider than the guy from Jurassic World. True. Yeah. But he can shoot. That's true.
Starting point is 01:26:11 He's a good shot. Yeah. And he can fly. He's got two guns. He's got the jet things. Yep. He's got that mask. He's got music. He's got the power of music and family and friendship.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Yeah. Whereas the guy from Jurassic World doesn't have any of those things. He's got that thing. He's got the thing that he does. He's probably got a shotgun. I don't think he does. Or a tranq dart. Yeah, maybe he's got one.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Yeah. Yeah. Also, Keanu Reeves, Neo would obliterate John Wick. At his peak, Neo at his peak. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Like an immortal god. Unless he's out of the Matrix. He is out of the Matrix, I guess.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I assume. Ooh, ooh, ah. In the Matrix, He is out of the Matrix, I guess. I assume. Ooh, ooh, ah. In the Matrix it would be Neo. Out of the Matrix it would be John Wick, right? Yeah, because it's. Because he's just naked and covered in goo. That's true, yes, you're absolutely right. I mean, Neo out of the Matrix might have one of those electricity guns,
Starting point is 01:27:00 but he doesn't have them on here. No, that's true. Commonly speaking, he doesn't. He just has, like, burlap sack clothes. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe, like, a pocket full of oats. And, like, John Wick would, like, put a thumb in one of those weird holes.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Yeah. And he's got it and go, you know. And reset, factory reset him. Yeah, that's exactly right. Just blank his memory. Yeah. Is there any, have we factored in, okay, does Neo have any powers? We haven't really.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Can we put the football field in the Matrix? Yeah, I don't think it is in the Matrix, though. Again, if it's in the Matrix, he would win. Because also, like, he just couldn't be shot. He couldn't be hit. Yeah, like peak Neo. Peak Neo, I think, is reloaded Neo, probably. Yeah, and peak Neo, like a normal man couldn't hit him.
Starting point is 01:27:48 No, that's true. And John Wick is a normal man. He's a normal man. Yeah, like an agent could hit him potentially but not. No, you're absolutely right. And Neo can fly. Yeah. And, you know.
Starting point is 01:27:59 End reality. What is John Wick going to throw a knife at him? Yeah, good luck. Yeah. As we've said before, if you want to chip at Neo for a week, reloaded Neo, maybe you'll hit him. But, yeah, outside of the Matrix. But outside of the Matrix you can stop like a Sentinel or whatever.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Yeah, but John Wick is a regular man. He's a regular man, exactly. Yeah. John Wick could kill him with like a clot of dirt. You could. Stuff it down his mouth. Yeah, exactly. In fact, there's so many creative ways that John Wick could probably kill him on a football field if it was just a clot of dirt. You could. Stuff it down his mouth. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that would. In fact, there's so many creative ways that John Wick
Starting point is 01:28:26 can probably kill him on a football field if it was just a normal. Yeah. Just slimy Neo just with his weak muscles. Yeah. Oh, no, but he's got to be peak normal then. He'd be peak normal. Peak normal then. Yeah, I know that I think he retains some of his fighting abilities
Starting point is 01:28:41 because it's in his brain. Yeah. But he can't move at the speed of. No, that's true. He can move to his physical limits. Also, John Wick's got a gun. And John Wick has a mini gun. There's no way he doesn't have a gun.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Exactly. He doesn't always have a gun. And a bulletproof suit. He does have a bulletproof suit. Yeah. Which presumably is weak karate chop proof as well. Exactly. Okay, so outside of the Matrix is John Wick for sure.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Yeah. What about this one from Brazil, 21-24? Rusty Crows Maximus from Colladiator. Oh, yes. Versus the Nick Fury of the Dark Universe himself, Dr. Jekyll. Okay. Dr. Jekyll would have to take the time to, no, that's to un-Jekyll himself. That's to un-Jekyll.
Starting point is 01:29:17 So you have to lower the cylinder of anti-Dr. Jekyll juice. Okay. Well, let's say he's turned into Mr. Hyde. So he's way stronger than a normal person. Is he, like, sword-proof? Like, we don't know. I don't think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Because who's he fighting? He's fighting Tom Cruise. The only physical altercation we see him in is with Tom Cruise. He fights Tom Cruise as the mummy. And Tom Cruise as the mummy is just a guy at that point. No, he's powered at that point because he's come back from the dead. He's got some mummy abilities. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:47 But, okay, well, he's got some mummy abilities, but Russell Crowe is handling him pretty comfortably, right? And Russell Crowe's Maximus is a man. He is a man. It's true. And sure, he has a sword. He's a good combatant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:01 But I think the strength of the Dark Universe franchise alone, the goodwill that it carries. That's true, yes. Would shine bright like a beacon and Maximus would be blinded. And he'd be like, is that my family? And Jekyll would be like, no, that's the Dark Universe. That's the one. That's the bright light that is the Dark Universe.
Starting point is 01:30:21 That's right. Ironic, isn't it? But for real, I think Maximus would probably kill him. Oh, he's a stupid character, but he's very strong. Yeah, but Maximus is very skilled. Maximus can also work under, like, incredible pain, both physically and mentally. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:30:40 So maybe you're right. How many weapons does Maximus have on him? Just the sword? Just normally got a sword, yeah. He doesn't have a dagger under his skirt or something? He might. He might have a dagger under his skirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:49 But he would probably at the very least have like a flat-bladed sword. I think this is a closer call than you'd think. You're probably right. Also, the Jekyll character is so vague that I don't even know what we're working with. Yeah, like we don't know if that character's a coward. Yeah. Like he might be like, oh, don't hurt me, I'm just a little baby.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Yeah. Like if he gets on the back foot, he's just like, I'm just a little baby, you know? Yeah. I think it's Maximus, but what do you? Yeah, let's do that. Okay, great. He's got a sword.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Yeah. And I think Dr. Jekyll would be too arrogant. Yeah. Look, I reckon in a clinch, if they got into a clinch, it could go either way. Like choke him. Because I think Jekyll could very. Is Jekyll even a killer? Jekyll could. Well, Jekyll clinch, it could go either way. Like choke him. Because I think Jekyll could very – Is Jekyll even a killer?
Starting point is 01:31:26 Jekyll could – well, Jekyll isn't, but Hyde definitely is. Yes. Well, that's – but is this version? I don't know. I think he is. I think, yeah. Yeah. I think he'd have to be.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Because why would he, you know, if he turns into – He'd be like, this is great. I'm going to do this all day. Wait, I'm confused. He never gets physically any larger, does he? No. He's just big Russell Crowe. He's just big Rusty.
Starting point is 01:31:46 He's Rusty Crowe. I think it's Maximus. Yeah. All right, let's do it. How about this one from Jack Williams? Oh, yes. If you're doing suggestions, I'd love to see Jack. Wait on.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Oh, yeah. Sorry. Goodbye, everyone. We're going to do Jack Nicholson's Joker. Oh, yes. Versus Jack Nicholson's Jack Torrance from The Shining. Coincidentally, all characters involved are named Jack. That's true.
Starting point is 01:32:05 I mean, the Jack Nicholson's Joker is not a physical man. He got bested by the least capable in hand-to-hand combat. Okay, but. That's probably Clooney. Yeah, yeah. But he does have all the gadgets. But they're not like, I mean, he has a gun. What is, what is.
Starting point is 01:32:21 An axe. Yeah. Hit him with an axe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he would just hit him with an axe. He'd chase him around that football axe. Yeah. Hit him with an axe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he would just hit him with an axe. He'd chase him around that football field. Okay. Try to hit him with the axe.
Starting point is 01:32:30 But is that- Because what's a joker got? Clattering teeth. Yep. Acid flower. Acid flower. Joy buzzer. Electric joy buzzer.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Yep. And a gun probably. He's got the giant gun. One with a flag and one with- He's got a lease too. He's got the giant gun barrel gun. Oh, it would be- Which could shoot down a plane. It would be the joker that's what i'm saying yeah i yeah even the acid flower alone would stop him um and just like shining have any like he's got the who's
Starting point is 01:32:56 got the shining it's the kid yeah he's got an axe the kid with him no didn't think the kid wouldn't help him no that's absolutely right yeah um Does he have anything like any kind of psychic connection or anything? Maybe he could call the blood elevator. He could call the blood elevator. That's true. Maybe he could call that barman. He could call a blood concession stand. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:16 The hot dog stand could whoosh out some blood, I guess. He could open the door to the weird room where the guy in the furry suit is giving that other guy sexual gratification and be like, hey, the Joker, look at this, and the Joker would be like, what? No, to me that's normal because I'm the Joker. Look, unless. You've basically opened a door into my mind. Yeah, there's no.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Look, you're right. The Jack Nicholson Joker is not a fighter, really, but he is. Jack Torrance is not a fighter either. No, that's exactly right. But I think there is no way that Torrance gets to him before he's run out of deadly gadgets. Yeah. And even if he does, it's acid to the.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Or like buzzer on his head. Buzzer on his head, exactly. How about this one from Rodrigo? Mm-hmm. Xander Cage. I think I know where this is going. Oh, yeah. This is Dom Toretto.
Starting point is 01:34:04 And Xander Cage has that really gross coat and a skateboard is going. This is Dom Toretto. Xander Cage has that really gross coat and a skateboard to give him strength. Dom Toretto has a wrench in his family on the sidelines cheering to give him strength. Now the problem with this one is they are both fuelled by ego and the power of a franchise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know. And they're both the same basically.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Then it's Vin because if we're going by the pair of franchise, Triple X failed and he's only in two of the three. And you'd kill him with that wrench. You'd kill him with the wrench. Well, he beat The Rock hand-to-hand. What's Triple X? He's hand-to-hand as well, isn't he? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:37 And he's got incredible stamina because he had sex with 30 women one time. That's right. But is that going to help him on a football field, you know? Probably not. No. I mean, it shows he's got good cardio. Yeah. I mean, look, I think.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Vin has his car, I assume. Yeah, he probably does. And Triple X has his skateboard. His skateboard. I think that. And his coat. If it were Triple X in the same, if it was XXX versus Toretto in the same era, like XXXI and whatever Fast and Furious movie it was then,
Starting point is 01:35:12 it would be XXX because he's the super skilled super spy. So you're saying that the best era of XXX is the first XXX then? It wouldn't be XXXIII. It'd be the younger hungrier oh it's probably triple x3 but what fast and furious movie was that what i'm saying is that yeah that uh teretto when he was just dom teretto like i'm talking far anything up to like fast five yeah just a guy it'd be triple x he's more or less just a guy but if we're doing peak Dom Toretto, he's been given all of Triple X's powers because Triple X didn't, because Triple X, the franchise failed.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Yeah. And so he's just laying out. And he's got those eyes that see in the dark. Yeah, yeah. He just takes it all. He's got the witch hunter powers. Exactly. They've just rolled it all into Dom Toretto.
Starting point is 01:35:58 So he's peak Vin Diesel character. Yeah. He's the ultimate Vin Diesel character. So I think it's got to be. And he's got that magical amulet that keeps him immortal. That's exactly right. Makes him can't die. And he's the tooth fairy?
Starting point is 01:36:10 And he's the tooth fairy, yeah. Unless the rock was the tooth fairy. He's the pacifier? He's the pacifier, you're right. Unless the rock was the pacifier. One of them was the pacifier, yeah. Yeah, yeah. What about this one?
Starting point is 01:36:20 Unless he's my spy. But that was Dave Bautista. Yes. What about this? Beware of your mom. I should say, sorry, says Mark Wahlberg from Transformers versus Mark Wahlberg from Uncharted. So Mark Wahlberg versus Mark Wahlberg. Absolutely, yes.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Now Mark Wahlberg peak would have a sword, right, a Cybertronian sword. Yeah, but what does he do with the Cybertronian sword after the last night? I don't think he has it on him. No, but that doesn't matter. It's like a peak. I think he's got, yeah, but see, I feel like peak powers. They're both six foot four.
Starting point is 01:36:53 That is very true. And if either of them were on, you know, one of those flights, it wouldn't have gone down that way. I completely agree. So, you know, so they're matched in that way. There would have been a lot of blood in that first class cabin, let me tell you. But I think his character from Transformers would have some
Starting point is 01:37:11 of his little robot helpers with him. They wouldn't be helpful. Yeah. Like the ones he built? Yes. Like the dog on the. Yeah. I don't think they'd let him keep that sword.
Starting point is 01:37:21 No. I think the Transformers would take it away from him. They'd give you that. But if he's at his peak, he'd have it though, right? All right, fine. What can the sword do? It stopped Optimus from killing Bumblebee. That's true.
Starting point is 01:37:34 That's not nothing. Okay. It can go quite long. Yeah. I think that's important. What does his character from Uncharted have? A gun sometimes? Not a moustache mostly.
Starting point is 01:37:44 No, he's a guy. He is a guy. It'd be Mark Wahlberg with a sword. If they're both Mark Wahlberg, it'd be the one with the sword. That is true. Yeah. You know? They're both so tall, though.
Starting point is 01:37:56 That is the problem there, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, I think there is potential for Mark Wahlberg with the sword to accidentally stab himself with the sword though. Yes, but he hasn't. That's true. Yet. I guess if canonically, has he ever gotten 20?
Starting point is 01:38:12 I feel like Sully is smarter. Yeah. Like he's more kind of street wise. I mean I'm also thinking about what that character is supposed to be in the game because he's none of those things in the actual movie. Yeah, he's just Mark Wahlberg, isn't he? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Just tall, just a six foot four. I mean, they're both tall. They are both tall. That's true. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's just whoever has the sword, which isn't to say that Sully couldn't get a hold of the sword. Sully mostly has a gun, doesn't he?
Starting point is 01:38:37 But maybe could Wahlberg. I feel like doesn't the sword move around him and would like block a bullet? Yeah, maybe. Do you know what I mean? It like slith block a bullet? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? It like slithers over his 6'4 frame. Yeah, you're probably right.
Starting point is 01:38:48 That's a lot of ground to cover though when he's 6'4. It would take ages. So Sully could probably get a bullet in. I reckon Sully's got to have a gun, right? He would have a gun. Yeah. Yeah. He'd have a gun and a crucifix that opens a chest or something.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? I reckon it might be Sully. That sword's got a lot. Yeah. It's like those big Claymore swords. It's like you've got a lot of – you need a lot of space and a lot of time to do that swing.
Starting point is 01:39:13 What's interesting about that sword is because when he stops Optimus, it's not like – Stop Optimus, but yes. Stop Optimus. He doesn't like – he does it easily. It's almost as if the sword like imbues him with strength. Oh, yeah, yeah, right. Like to stop a blow from Optimus Prime and not just be swatted away.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Or it's just a coincidence. Or it's written badly. Or it was the wind. It was quite windy if I recall. It was pretty windy out there. On top of that spaceship or whatever. Yeah. Okay, well, it's Mark Wahlberg with the sword because of the wind.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Yeah, okay, great. I've got a few left. Okay, great. We've gone nearly an hour with these, so that's good. It's from Mikey Rocks who says... If this is the sort of thing you like. Yeah. For your versus episode, Rocket Raccoon versus Face Man Peck
Starting point is 01:39:55 from the A-Team. Oh, wow. Both portrayed by Bradley Cooper, an army ranger versus a raccoon. Wow. Have you noticed that... Maybe we've talked about this, but Bradley Cooper doesn't appear in any of the PR or any of the...coon. Wow. Have you noticed that, maybe we've talked about this, but Bradley Cooper doesn't appear in any of the PR or any of the. He does now.
Starting point is 01:40:09 He went to the red carpet recently. Did he? Okay. Well, up until this point he hasn't at all. They went, what? You voiced this character? And he's like, yeah, the whole time. You didn't know?
Starting point is 01:40:17 Vin Diesel sometimes does, but it's mostly the non-animated cast that appears for Guardians. The people who were actually in the movie. People who were actually in the movie and didn't do a day of. ADR. Yeah, ADR while Sean Gunn stands in for Guardians. The people who were actually in the movie. People who were actually in the movie and didn't do a day of. ADR. Yeah, ADR while Sean Gunn stands in for you. I think it just shows that like Rocket Raccoon is probably in this movie like it's focused around him.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean Rocket Raccoon is insane. He's got a series of enormous guns. And he's insane. Yeah. Yeah. But isn't.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Oh, I'm thinking of Murdoch. Yeah. Murdoch's inside. Yeah. Yeah. But isn't, oh, I'm thinking of Murdoch. Yeah, Face Man's like, he's good with like a smooth talking, but I don't think Rocket would be. Okay. I don't think you smooth talk Rocket. Do you think Rocket would be? He might be able to talk him down. Do you think Face Man is allowed to deploy the big shipping containers,
Starting point is 01:41:01 the shipping container shell game? I mean, they have to have been there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't have them on him. No, I think he does. He has them on him? I think we're allowed to make an exception. And he has Liam Neeson.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Yeah. Yes, also that. No, I mean, it's Rocket Raccoon, right? It is, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's probably got a jet pack and- And a gun, a really big gun. A gun, whatever, yeah, and all of that. So I don't think Face, he's probably, he is a murderer,
Starting point is 01:41:23 but is he as big time a murderer as Rocket? Unlikely. Yeah. Few people are. I agree. Let's do these last two, Mason. Okay. I like this one a lot.
Starting point is 01:41:33 All right. I like these all. I like them all. Wow, wow, wow. Colleen's edited in before each of these that I like this one the most, but do that for every one of them. Ryan S. Bailey says The Mask, Jim Carrey, versus Bruce Almighty, also Jim Carrey.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Jim Carrey. Both of them have powers of different gods. One has Catholicism, Morgan Freeman God. That's right. The other has Loki. Trickster God, yeah. Trickster-y powers, who is also played by Alan. Rickman.
Starting point is 01:42:00 No, he's in the sequel. Oh, coming. Yes. So those powers. Right. Now it's interesting because one of them has like bouncy rubber man powers that can make a big hammer and whatever, and one of them has the literal powers of a god.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Yeah, one of them has. Catholicism wrath god. Exactly. One of them has sort of superhero-esque powers and one of them has made up in the playground powers. Yeah, exactly. Actually, no, there's a Plague Locust, actually. I've actually got to see everything.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Actually, I already sent a big flood and I killed everybody, except for two people, but you weren't one of the two. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's God. I guess. Seems like it's cheating, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:42:40 I didn't write this one. I didn't make up the powers of God. You need to speak to God about this. Maybe I will. Because, like, it's hammers and bouncing around. I guess my question would be, and it's not really relevant here, is God could seal his head shut, just the whole green thing. Yeah, but then bloody the mask could get out of sore
Starting point is 01:43:04 and sore open on bloody whatever. And say, somebody stop me. Exactly. From killing God. From doing some blasphemy and killing God. I just think they're both gods, obviously. I don't really remember Bruce Almighty. He's got the powers of God.
Starting point is 01:43:18 No, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But does he have the powers of God in the sense that? He pulls the moon closer to Earth. Okay, all right. So that's an advantage. He makes literally everybody on earth. Could he become 100 feet tall?
Starting point is 01:43:30 Yeah. Interesting. He makes everybody on earth's prayers come true. Okay, so does he have godlike reflexes? I mean, you don't see him in any kind of confrontational situation because he's God. Well, see, there's a. You think there's an opening there?
Starting point is 01:43:46 I'm thinking there's an opening there. But also real God is around like Morgan Freeman. Right. I don't think real God would allow Jim Carrey's God to be killed. No, no, James, real God is not here. Real God's gone. Real God's not welcome in the stadium. So it's just Jim Carrey.
Starting point is 01:44:01 There is no God in these walls. That's exactly, except the two gods that are battling currently. I don't know. It feels like people are always praising God in these walls. That's exactly, except the two gods that are battling currently. I don't know. It feels like people are always praising God in these walls. See, I'm just saying there's a- I think the audience would love God as well if there was an American football audience. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:15 They would like the idea of God. I can't remember if there's ever an audience in there. Sometimes there is. Sometimes there isn't. Okay. All I'm saying is he might have the powers of God. Yeah. But what if that is only external?
Starting point is 01:44:28 Like he can do miracles and he can make people's prayers come true or whatever. Yeah. But he is a man. Yeah. Still, you know, still vulnerable to, you know, being shot with a rocket launcher or whatever. I think that would be pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Yeah, but he doesn't really do that either. Like he doesn't kill people really. He sticks a bunch of mufflers up those guys' butts. Yeah, well, you know. I mean if it was the comic book mask. Would God concede if he got a muffler stuck up his butt? I mean, again, it's not actually God. Could God create a muffler that went so far up his own butt
Starting point is 01:44:53 that he couldn't remove it, James? It's an interesting philosophical question, I think. It is. Yeah. Could God do that? Yeah, yeah. This isn't hypothetical. You have to answer.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Then, yeah, he could. Yeah, I reckon he could too. Yeah. Yeah. It's God. It's the guy who has the powers of God. I don't hypothetical. You have to answer. Then, yeah, he could. Yeah, I reckon he could too. Yeah. Yeah. It's God. It's the guy who has the powers of God. I don't look. The playground God powers.
Starting point is 01:45:09 I think you're probably right, but also I don't think there's. Loki's not even like the God in his own universe. No, that's true. Yeah. If anything, he's more a demigod. But all I'm saying is, but I don't think Bruce, is it Bruce Almighty? Yeah. I don't think he's a real god either.
Starting point is 01:45:26 No, they're not. He's just playing with these horses. They both have, but Loki's not really Loki. Yeah. It's the powers of, like it's the mask and your personality. And I think you're also right in that if the mask was on somebody other than this character. Like Jamie Kennedy.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Like a Jamie Kennedy. Hello, everybody. Let's have a bad time in this musical number. This is for me. Or if it's like, you know, there's that. My sperm has faces. God, what a terrible movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:57 You know, there's that mobster guy in the movie. Yeah, exactly. If it was him, then that's different. Exactly. So I guess the, and again, if it's comic book The Mask, he's a killer. But I guess – And if it's comic book God, who knows? Well, I mean, that's also – is God in Bruce Almighty,
Starting point is 01:46:14 is he Old Testament God or New Testament God? He's New Testament God. Maybe he wouldn't kill him. Yeah, but he'd stop him because he's God. Yeah, no, you're probably right. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Yeah, you're probably right.
Starting point is 01:46:25 I don't think the Jim Carrey the Mask would go lethal probably. Also, like Jim Carrey the Mask controls, Jim Carrey, sorry, God, controls like Evan Almighty in the newsroom and he makes him like he can control his mind and make him talk. So he could probably just control him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But if it was Evan Almighty versus the mask, that's a different story.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Evan Almighty versus Michael Scott from The Office. And Evan Almighty is a vengeful God. Sure, I bet he would be. All right, you're probably right. It's God. Yeah, it's God, Mason. Okay, final one. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:46:58 That's for all you Christians out there. You're welcome. You're welcome. Sorry, atheists. Yep. You're welcome. You're welcome. Sorry, atheists. Yep. Sorry. Sorry if you believe in the one true God. Mason didn't come to that conclusion earlier.
Starting point is 01:47:11 I was always on board with God, just to clarify. Wow. Mason, last one. Okay, I'm listening. This is back to standard stuff. None of this God mystical magical power. So we're going out on a whimper, not a bang. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:47:23 I love this. This is a good one, and they're all good ones. It's from Samuel Pixie who says, Carl Urban, Billy Butcher versus Dredd. Now Billy Butcher at his peak would be super powered but I don't think we're doing because that would be Billy Butcher, right? That would be the fight.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Dredd versus a guy with super strength and laser eyes. He's not invulnerable though, is he? No. No. But he's got laser eyes. I think Dredd might be a better hand-to-hand combatant. Than Billy Butcher?
Starting point is 01:47:53 Yes. I agree. And he's got that gun that can shoot all sorts of different bullets. Yeah. I mean, even if it was superpower Billy Butcher, Dredd might still kill him. Is that what you're saying? Yes.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Yeah, I agree. I think even if... Billy Butcher's Dredd might still kill him. Is that what you're saying? Yes. Yeah, I agree. I think even if – Billy Butcher's a brawler. Dredd's like a combat veteran. Yeah, he's killed a lot of people. I mean, they both killed a lot of people. But I think even – do you remember the scene in Dredd where Dredd gets shot through the wall?
Starting point is 01:48:19 It shoots him through the gut and out the back and he's just like, eh. Boring. So I'm saying he could probably – This is boring. I reckon he could survive probably at least a couple of laser eyes. Yeah. He'd probably still die. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:31 But this is a closer fight than even, I reckon Dredd. Wait, wait, wait. So Homelander fights Billy Butcher when Billy Butcher is superpowered. Yes. And like a punch doesn't kill him. So a bullet kill him. Ooh. You don't think like Billy Butcher would just like just shear him
Starting point is 01:48:48 in half with laser vision? He might. I'd have to know more about those bullets. Because he's got a bunch of different ones. He's got hot shot. I reckon like an armour piercing one with an explosive charge could probably take his head off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:01 I mean, yeah, because internally he's not like. Well, I guess we don't know. We don't. But if he's anything like that invisible guy with the. He's not bulletproof on the inside. He's not bulletproof on the inside. And we don't know whether Billy Butcher's like Homelander on the inside. That's true.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Or. I think you're probably right. It's probably Billy Butcher. But depowered. It's dread. Dread, 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Without a.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Yeah. But then God. Then God would dread. Dread, 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Without a, yeah. But then, God. Then God would come in and go, stop it, boys. That's right, I'm 100 feet tall. And I think you know, that means you know who the winner is. Also, I killed the mask and I'm wearing the mask, so I've got double God powers. Double powers and I'm bulletproof.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Whoop-a-dee-doo. That's right. There we go. Anyway, the winner was God, folks. God won. That's right. I think that's great. God always wins. I was going. Anyway, the winner was God, folks. God won. That's right. I think that's great. God always wins.
Starting point is 01:49:51 I was going to say, if we want to wind it back, God won that round. Do you want me to do that? Collins, if you could put that over all. Oh, yeah, we're going to go back to our finish. What was the first one we did? It was Ryan Reynolds Greenland versus Ryan Reynolds Deadpool. Okay. Here we go. This one seems boring when you look at God.
Starting point is 01:50:04 That's true. Who would win? Give me a definitive answer. Here we go. It's important to note that they're both portrayed by Ryan Reynolds. However, the two characters are different. In terms of fights, likely Deadpool would have the upper hand against Green Lantern.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Deadpool is a highly skilled and agile fighter with a healing factor that allows him to withstand a great deal of damage. He's also known for his ability to break the fourth wall. Not this version. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Green Lantern, on the other hand, is a member of the Green Lantern Corps and has a power ring that allows him to create constructs
Starting point is 01:50:32 out of pure willpower. It's his ability to fly and create energy shields. However, in a fight between the two characters by Ryan Reynolds, it's likely that Deadpool's combat skills, healing factor, and unpredictable nature would give him the advantage. That being said, it's important to remember that this is a hypothetical scenario and the outcome of a fight between two characters. No, this is real.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Ultimately, I'll say, no, this is real. Hang on. Could you go back there and could you specify X-Men Origins Wolverine? I did. Did you? Yeah. Well, can you ask it again? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:59 Rerun it again, but it's Wade Wilson from X-Men Origins Wolverine. I meant Wade. I'm going to be polite, Wilson, from X-Men Origins versus Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern. Whoa. Here we go. Oh, I see. In that case, it's still difficult to determine a winner, blah, blah, blah, healing factor, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:51:23 And he's also known for his sharp wit. No. Oh, my God. He's mouth so sharp. Imagine if we did a whole episode of this, James. Yeah, I know. This wouldn't have been good. But I feel like a couple of months ago,
Starting point is 01:51:33 like this thing was more kind of like Wild West. Oh, that's true. It could have said anything. You're absolutely right. Boring now. Anyway, AI is boring now. That's so true. It was hot for a second and now it's boring.
Starting point is 01:51:43 That's right. Anyway, great stuff. We'll do another one of and now it's boring that's right anyway great stuff we'll do another one of these in three years that's right or sooner see you in three years folks yeah but stay around
Starting point is 01:51:51 because we've got more things to talk about that's right do you know what it's time for it's time for what we were reading what we gotta read we gotta read and I brought props again
Starting point is 01:51:56 ha ha ha ha I'm doing a thing what are we reading today? Well, well, well. Well, well, well. Don't you think that would have gone quicker if you just agreed with all my opinions? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:11 If you just said, no, you're right, James. You're right. No, you're right, James. You're right that I guess God is the one true God. I guess so. Let's move along. Let's move along. Let's move along.
Starting point is 01:52:19 So what are we reading? This is the segment where we talk about what we've been reading. Yes. Do you want me to go first or have you got a prop? I'll go first, James. I told you the other day that I was going to get into a comic book. It's called The Nice House on the Lake. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:30 I bought volume one. I'm like, I'll see if this is any good. And I read it and then I immediately bought volume two. I went to my local comic book store. Oh, my God. Minotaur. Minotaur. And I bought volume two.
Starting point is 01:52:40 So it's DC Black Label. Volume two is smaller than volume one. Interesting. Do these cost the same? You can't remember. This is a crime. It's a crime in a lot of ways. You've revealed a crime to me, Mason.
Starting point is 01:52:51 This looks good. Love the front covers. So this is written by James Tinian IV. Oh, yeah. And illustrated by Alvaro Martinez Bueno and colours by Jordan Belair. Lovecraftian? No, not at all. I shan't spoil too much of it, but suffice it to say it's about a group
Starting point is 01:53:09 of people who were invited to a nice house on the lake by a mutual friend. Some of them know each other. Some of them, you know, just know him. Do some of them not know each other? Yes, some of them not know each other. Interesting. And some they've known this guy since high school, some they've known as like adults and all this sort of stuff.
Starting point is 01:53:29 But we the readers learned quite early on that each of them has been chosen and someone's like, oh, chosen 10 years ago, chosen one year ago, chosen 19 years ago. But for what, James? What are they all doing at the nice house on the lake? Is it nothing? Yeah, it's nothing. He's just like, I thought we'd are they all doing at the nice house on the lake? Is it nothing? Yeah, it's nothing. He's just like, I thought we'd have a nice time at the nice house on the lake.
Starting point is 01:53:50 But on the front cover there's a woman and she's in a big pit full of bones. She is in a big pit full of bones. Does that happen in the comic? No. It's a metaphor. That's dumb. But I shan't reveal too much, but I reckon we might want to cover those for our podcast.
Starting point is 01:54:03 And you're bringing them here because you want me to keep them. Is that right? No, you may borrow them, James. Borrow them to keep, maybe. It's not what borrowing is. I'm going to borrow them, and then I'm going to ruin them. Oh, come on. And then you can have them back if you want them.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Ruined. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. That looks really good. Very, really interesting. And again, because it's on DC Black Label, I was like,
Starting point is 01:54:26 oh, maybe it's somehow related to the regular DC universe. It is not. Yuck. But DC Black Label, I guess, now is their sort of Vertigo-style imprint, which is just kind of. Yeah. Is Vertigo not doing anything at the moment? I think they shut it down.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Oh, cool. Pretty sure. But, yeah, it's just sort of interesting, you know, weird self-contained stories and just things that they're sort of going to take a chance on, which I think is really interesting. Cool. So people should check that out, I reckon, if you want a bloody interesting book.
Starting point is 01:54:53 All right, we'll look that in the book club because last time in the book club we looked at the comic book Reckless. Oh, I just remembered. I'm going to buy the second volume of that. Yeah, yeah, do that. But this week if you're signed up at bigsandwich.co, we've got a We Got This Covered Covered episode. And this is a special week because I have picked signed up to BigSandwich.co, we've got this covered, covered episode. And this is a special week because I have picked the clickbait.
Starting point is 01:55:08 That's right. Every now and then, it's the second time I've done it, I do a James Gunn clickbait where he's just, someone goes, this person's been cast as Superman. And he just goes on Twitter and goes, no. So it's that. I love it. So that's fun.
Starting point is 01:55:22 And then the week after that, it's Batman Returns on the Atari Lynx, baby. Never get back. I'm so excited. And we also recorded a movie commentary, which is coming out in a few weeks, I think. That's right. That's not for three or four weeks. And let me tell you, I had a heck of a good time with that one. That was a good one.
Starting point is 01:55:34 It was very good fun, I reckon. We won't spoil it. But let's say you'll be speeding over to your... Copy of Speed. Copy of Speed. And watching that with our commentary of Speed over the top of it. Don't tell anybody that.
Starting point is 01:55:51 Anyway, there's like a million hours of stuff there if you want to sign up. Yeah, that's right, a whole bunch of stuff. For nine bucks a month. Anyway, I – Oh, which reminds me of two things. One, back in the day when we started, we were like, oh, maybe we'll delete some of the stuff. It's all there.
Starting point is 01:56:02 That's all there. And the second thing is sometimes people ask us, hey, there's a guy in your YouTube and he's like, it's me, Mr. Sunday Movies, and you've won a prize. It's never, we tell you in the videos. You've never won a prize. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:56:14 If you have won a prize, email in and we're going to come to your house and take it off you. That's right. You want a car? It's ours now. It's ours. We're going to take it. Give it back.
Starting point is 01:56:22 That's right. Now, what have you been reading? Well, I've decided to hold off on Jedi Survivor because I don't have a PS5. Okay. But we're all against it. It's very good. And there's a very fun Cameron Monaghan, Mark Hamill commercial. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:34 I did see that. It's a lot of fun. Two Jokers as well. Oh, yeah. Two Jokers, two Jedi. Oh, my God. So I'm going to hold off until PS5's maybe a little bit cheaper. Do you think Mark Hamill's in this game?
Starting point is 01:56:44 No. Interesting. But maybe he is. He's in this game? No. Interesting. But maybe he is now. He's not even playing that frog man? I'm a frog. Yes, he's a frog man. The one from The Last Jedi? No, this guy.
Starting point is 01:56:52 His name is... I'm a frog. Star Wars Jedi Survivors little frog man Turgle steals the show. It's Turgle. He's a frog. I don't know if he's real, but his name's Turgle. I hope he's in it. I hope he's in it too.
Starting point is 01:57:03 I like the customization. Apparently the combat's amazing. There's some more kind of open world-y stuff. There's fast travel but there's also like slow travel. Slow travel. Great. Yeah, so story's apparently really good but I'm just going to hold off for a bit
Starting point is 01:57:15 because I think also a lot of the PS5s you get in Australia, I don't know whether it's like, and you get God of War 2 and I'm like, but I have that already and I don't want to play it. I have it already. So yeah I'll probably get it a bit later. You get a ratchet and clank. Rift through time or whatever. Through time. Anyway it's good
Starting point is 01:57:33 to get another good Star Wars game. Oh and we also both watched Baby J which is the new John Mulaney stand up special. Oh yeah we did too. Bit of fun? I thought it was a bit of fun. Turns out that guy did a lot of drugs recently. And that's not a secret. That's what it's about.
Starting point is 01:57:47 That's right, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he's a good stand-up, obviously. Yeah, a lot of good stories in it, I thought. Yeah, I agree. Now, there's actually a 34-minute video on the People Magazine YouTube channel. Oh, yes? It's with Kevin Smith, and he's just talking to camera.
Starting point is 01:58:05 And he talks about how recently he had a complete break from reality. Oh, boy. And went into a mental health facility for a month and he just talks about how it's all tied back to like sexual abuse and trauma and things that he's experienced in his life and it's basically just a very open discussion about the person he is and how the person often he presents to camera and like to other people is like not a facade, but like someone who kind of takes all the credit and is out there
Starting point is 01:58:29 and whatever, and he basically talks through that and his entire experience. And anyway, I just thought it was just a, it's a really interesting and, like, informative video and a very open discussion about, like, mental health and abuse and all of these things, and I just think it's just worth a watch. I like Kevin Smith. Well, that sounds like something that would be difficult for me
Starting point is 01:58:48 to make flippant jokes about. No, it is. No, it is actually. Oh, man. It is, yeah. Wow. And I also, and not that this is really relevant, but I also think that as a result of this,
Starting point is 01:58:59 he's also talked about how he's not going to smoke weed anymore and he has for like 10 plus years, but he's just going to completely stop. Oh, he has completely stopped and i also and he's got talking about like he's going to be offline more and i just wonder what kind of like stuff will he make as because i don't think he's going to stop making stuff yeah right i don't know i just i think he's like the years that he's kind of weaved in and out of and i haven't loved everything he's made but um i think it's always interesting to see what he's doing. That's true. And, yeah, this was – it was really great. And, like, just a – I'd imagine a very difficult thing to, like,
Starting point is 01:59:35 experience and then come to terms with and then come through and then talk about. Like, it's just – yeah. Anyway, great. You know, I knew when I liked Kevin Smith for a while, he nearly died and I was glad he didn't die. Oh, yeah. Like, for real. I was like, oh, good.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Well, I'm glad that's all it took for him. No, I never didn't like him. I listen to all, not as much now because I don't really listen to as many podcasts, but I love these podcasts and that. Anyway. Moving along to letters. Letters time. Time for letters.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Do you want to quickly make a flippant remark? There's no time. I would love to. We're in the middle of the letters thing. We are, you're right. When it finishes, you can do it. Okay. This will give you the time to think about it. We're in the middle of the lettuce thing. We are, you're right. When it finishes, you can do it. Okay. This will give you the time to think about it.
Starting point is 02:00:08 We're going to do lettuce. More like Jay and Silad guy comes to terms with some traumas in his life. Nice. And it's actually come out on the other end as a happier and healthier person. Nice. Yeah, got him. Nice. Nice. And he's actually come out on the other end as a happier and healthier person, Mason. Nice. Yeah, got him. Nice. Nice.
Starting point is 02:00:28 More like healthy choices man and something for chronic. And also healthy choices. Two men making healthy and informed choices. That's right. Men. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. This is a letter segment of the show.
Starting point is 02:00:41 That's right. And if you do want to reach the show via letters, you can speak to me on YouTube where I'm giving out the show. That's right. And if you do want to reach the show via letters, you can speak to me on YouTube where I'm giving out prizes apparently. That's right. Play PS5s, I think. Yeah, those are fake. Oh, I should win one then because I don't have one. That's right.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com or hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter. Here we go, Mason. You got a letter? I've got some letters, James. Don't even worry about it. Do you want me to do a tweet first? Here's one from Carrie. Carrie. Hey, guys. My husband a letter? I've got some letters, James. Don't even worry about it. Do you want me to do a tweet first? Here's one from Carrie. Carrie!
Starting point is 02:01:05 Hey guys, my husband and I are big fans. Two years ago I got him a weekly Planet shirt for his birthday. Last year's gift was the best big sandwich around and I thought, what about a surprise shout out for my man's 33rd on May the 6th? Jesus, yeah. That's right. Oh, we were talking about God earlier. We were talking about God earlier.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100 feet tall, that guy. Yeah. We just celebrated our 10-year wedding anniversary last month and he totally outgifted me. So I was wondering if you guys could make Dan's special day by awarding him the official guy in a 1974 Godzilla suit of the podcast. Oh, my God. Thanks for always bringing the laughs and introductions to our favourite comic books.
Starting point is 02:01:38 From Carrie. I hope I'm saying that right. C-A-R-R-I. Carrie? Carrie? C-A-R-R-I. Car-ry. Car-ry? Car-ry. Could-A-R-I. Carrie? Carrie, C-A-R-I. Car-ry. Car-ry?
Starting point is 02:01:45 Car-ry. Could be car-ry. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever it is. Happy birthday. We got it right. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 02:01:52 We absolutely got it right. Jesus, yeah, man. How did your husband outgift you? Did he buy you the Godzilla suit for him to wear? Is that? Yeah, maybe. That would be. What about this, darling? Yeah. I love that. Happy? maybe. That would be. What about this, darling?
Starting point is 02:02:06 Yeah. I love that. Happy? Yes. You would be because I look great in this. That's right. Yeah. My goodness, that's really good stuff.
Starting point is 02:02:13 This one from Craig Ambrose who says, Hashtag Wicked Planet Pod, if Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 turns out to be the best Marvel movie since Endgame, that's what they say, do you think Marvel is viewing the success of a movie as a double-edged sword given that they'll be boosting the profile of a man who will be at the helm of their direct competition? I think if it is as good as people say,
Starting point is 02:02:32 then I think it will only bolster the DCU, and it could hurt Marvel in the sense that there are a lot of people, and we've talked about this, where it's like, what is happening with the MCU? Where's it going? Is Kang even going to be in these movies anymore like where's it going yeah is kang even going to be in these movies anymore yeah yeah are they going to drop that whole multi people seem sick of the multiverse they really do yeah it hasn't really kicked off i wonder if they'll destroy it
Starting point is 02:02:54 i wonder if they might destroy it in a crisis on infinite style thing would be like no it's just one now and then they could refresh everything if they wanted to they could recast anybody they want the ultimate universe is what you're saying maybe they could do that they could you know bloody yeah yeah you might be right yeah they might have to simplify a bunch of stuff because dc would sue them for stealing their concepts sure that's fine you can sue you can sue it's fine it's legal to sue that's right um but no um i think i i think it's better when they're both doing well yes um. But it is possible that, like, losing James Gunn and then him running the DCU and if he makes an incredible Superman movie, I mean, it could be bad for Marvel,
Starting point is 02:03:32 but I think it was stupid of them to let him go in the first place. Yeah, but also I think that most people don't know who directs things or produce things or what have you. No, but they get a sense when they're like, I'm not into this. No, that's true. But what I'm saying is like, you know, in Guardians 3, I think will just be good. If it is as good as people say, it will be good for both sides of the.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Yes, that's what I'm saying. Both sides of the aisle, yeah, yeah. But it's also the last Guardians movie with these Guardians. That's true. And James Gunn. They've subtly, I don't know if you've seen it in the trailers, but they seem to have subtly remodeled. You know the second Guardians team? Yeah. The one with Stallone in it. Yeah,, but they seem to have subtly remodeled. You know the second Guardians team?
Starting point is 02:04:05 Yeah. The one with Stallone in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They seem to have remodeled some of the characters. Okay. The Michael Rosenbaum character. He's not a crystal man anymore? Yeah, he just looks like Michael Rosenbaum with like a.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Crystal face? Yeah, with a crystal face. Interesting. But before that he had like more of a, like a really angular. Crystal face. Crystal face, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:24 What's his name? Crystal face. Oh, it might be. No, it Face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man. Yeah. What's his name? Crystal Face. Ooh, it might be. No, it's, oh, I used to know it. It's got an X in it maybe. Crystal Face. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:34 Mm. I think they'll probably just do another Guardians movie as well. Yeah. With another team. Mm-hmm. And then people will be like, not as good, not as good as the other one. And maybe that's true. Mm.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Got another one, Mason? I do. Can you read it out? I guess. This is from Truman. Truman Show. Regional dispute. We're solving all.
Starting point is 02:04:52 This is an episode all about disputes, as you would know. Yes, yes, yes. God won. That's right. Dear James and Mason, I have a regional dispute for you to discuss. I'm from the state of Virginia. Oh, so am I. You're not.
Starting point is 02:05:03 You're a liar. We strongly believe that the residents of the neighboring state of Maryland are of Virginia. Oh, so am I. You're not. You're a liar. We strongly believe that the residents of the neighboring state of Maryland are bad drivers. Since I moved here almost 10 years ago, my friends have drilled this into me. I've seen countless examples of it. However, I recently started dating someone from Maryland, and I learned that
Starting point is 02:05:18 they are raised thinking that Virginians are bad drivers. Please weigh in. So I think we have to determine who has the worst drivers. Now, can we look up driver statistics? No. I can do it right now. It's vibes. This is vibes.
Starting point is 02:05:29 Vibes. Yeah, yeah. Maryland, Virginia. Virginia. I mean, there's not a lot to go off here. I know. It doesn't give us as much information. I mean, we do it and now our decision is final.
Starting point is 02:05:39 Because he's saying all of his friends are saying that they're bad, but his girlfriend is saying that this is a, you know what this is? His friends are saying everybody in Maryland. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I get it. And his girlfriend in Maryland is saying, you know what this is? It's a Shelbyville Springfield situation. It's that, and it's also when you've got a bunch of mates.
Starting point is 02:05:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm listening. And then you meet a girl or a partner, and then all of a sudden you become closer with them and maybe the mates take a step back. Yeah, right. And you're like, my new priority is, so you go with the girlfriend or the partner, and then all of a sudden you become closer with them and maybe the mates take a step back. Yeah, right. And you're like, my new priority is so you go with the girlfriend or the partner. So you're saying that even though he's from Virginia.
Starting point is 02:06:13 Yeah, he's not. He moved there. Yeah, yeah. His partner is saying that Virginians are bad drivers, so I think we're going to have to go with that. I think you're absolutely right. You've got to back your partner. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 02:06:23 You're a team, and I would hate to cause a rift. That's right. That would cause you two to separate. But if you do separate, you've got to go back to your mates and you've got to think the reverse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I'm sorry, Virginia, terrible drivers. I mean, everybody's a terrible driver also, you know.
Starting point is 02:06:40 That's the truth of it. Oh, I'm done. You're out on the road, Mason. Oh, you better believe it. I'm not the exception to that, Mason. Though I am pretty excellent. I'm actually a really good driver. I can prove it right now.
Starting point is 02:06:51 We've been driving this whole time. Driving and recording a podcast. That's right. The bridge is out, but let's... Oh, we jumped it. We jumped it. We did it already. It's fine.
Starting point is 02:07:00 Don't worry about it. Yeah, and this isn't even like a supercar. This is a regular car. That's right. Imagine if we were in a supercar. Yeah, but we're not. We're in a regular car. Martin X is Michael Rosenbaum's character. Okay. Yeah, that's right. This is from Big Cat on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:07:12 Oh, yes. Sorry, Bat Cat on Twitter who says, hashtag weekly planet pod, for your Never Go Back series, can I suggest the point and click Space Quest games? Now, you've played these, haven't you? I've played a few of them. I remember it taking months to beat. I recently played it and it took me 32 minutes. The best part is though, Mr. Thunder Movies can sit and watch Wikipedia Brown as in you play for a change. How would
Starting point is 02:07:32 you be open to that? Look. Could you beat it in 32 minutes? No, we could do it with a walkthrough, I guess. No, no, you'd have to just play it. Oh, then we'd be at it for hours for a 10 minute video. You want that? James, you want that? They're not, they go for like 30 minutes, these videos, but you could beat it in 32 minutes. Oh, okay. I'll do that then. Sure. I mean, do you think though with our brains now
Starting point is 02:07:49 and the idea of how the world works and how these games work, do you think we could speed through it? No, I think we'd be even worse, honestly. Because we'd overthink it? Yeah, probably. We'd have a weird logic to it that we don't. Exactly. And I think you.
Starting point is 02:08:03 Me? Yeah, you. Oh, you. Oh, I'd be out of practice and i'd be and i'd forget like some of those games you have to click on just the right pixel to pick up the thing yeah okay and you'd be like you'd be i'll pick up this thing it's like you can't pick it up and it's like oh i guess we don't need it then and then like you learned five hours later that i actually had to click the a different pixel and it's like you picked it up And it's like, you picked it up. And it's like, come on. Yeah, good point. Come on.
Starting point is 02:08:25 Come on. Yeah. Come on. What's wrong? Come on. Yeah. Yeah, but. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:31 I don't know if point and clicks. Would they translate as well? I don't know if they'd translate. I think. It could be very funny, though. Could be funny. Could be fun and very fun content. That's right.
Starting point is 02:08:41 Yeah. I don't know. Something to think about, though. But send your games that you want us to play. That's right. Maybe. I don't know. Something to think about, though. But send your games that you want us to play. That's right. Maybe we'll be playing them. I'm currently making my way through Fast and Furious Crossroads. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:50 I saw you play some of that. Oh, my God, Mason. That game is bad. Anyway, what's next? What does that is? It's the end of the show, I think, yeah. I have to cough. I believe in you.
Starting point is 02:09:00 You can do it. No, I have to, and I did. You can do another one if you want. I don't need to. I don't want to. Oh, wow. Okay. Pressure me. Go on. Give it a go, though. do it and I did. You can do another one if you want. I don't need to. I don't want to. Oh, wow. Okay. Pressure me.
Starting point is 02:09:05 I'll give it a go though. That's what I thought. That's what you thought? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would happen? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, cool. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast. Well, that's us. We very much appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast. Thank you for subscribing on your
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Starting point is 02:09:31 Do it in your share house toilet. Yep. Just in your house. Yep. You know, don't tell your housemates. Use the last of the toilet paper. That's right. And don't regret it.
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Starting point is 02:09:53 That's us. Still in any app. Neat mates. They're fun, knowledgeable, clever, and have some takes that will sear the peach fuzz clean off your gibblies. That ain't that. Give them a shot. Sorry, I was going to hiccup, but I didn't.
Starting point is 02:10:06 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this one is from an emoji of a – no, so this one is from Jesse Lee Oberst, and the headline is an emoji of a snake and then an emoji of two eyes. And it says, hands down the number one Snake Eyes movie recap podcast out there. Is that what we're talking about next week? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:23 We're doing Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3. Oh, yeah. Then Snake Eyes. Nice. That's perfect, actually. Can't wait. It's been a long time coming. That's right.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Folks, if you want to get in contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com or you can go to Facebook, Twitter, and Bandcamp. You can go to the Planet Broadcasting Grey Mates Facebook group or the Weekly Planet Podcast Discord or subreddit. Hells yeah. If you want to follow some people on the socials, you can follow our friend Rob Collings who edits this podcast.
Starting point is 02:10:50 That's right. He does all the socials. He bloody does editing. He does all sorts of bloody videos and all sorts of animation. This guy is up to all sorts of stuff. I disagree. Actually, you're probably right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:00 He's certainly not in a rut. He better not be. He better be in a rut, bloody. Anyway, you should follow him on Twitter at RawCollings. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's certainly not in a rut. He better not be. He better be in a rut, buddy. Anyway, you should follow him on Twitter at RawCollings. That's right. He's also at The Weekly Planet on Twitter. If you want to follow me, I am Wikipedia Brown on Twitter and Nick Mayso on Instagram.
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Starting point is 02:11:40 And that's free. Ad-free, podcast free. And then a video game that plays. And again, it's free after you pay a lot of money. You pay money and then it's free. Ad-free, podcast-free. And then video game let's plays. And, again, it's free after you pay a lot of money. You pay money and then it's free. You can wash your hands of it, you know. It's free. Just drinking that free content.
Starting point is 02:11:54 That's true. Very nice. Let me see. Thank you to the Brute and the Bassist and Rackham for all our musical themes. If you want some T-shirts, you go to tpublic.com. Search for The Weekly Planet. Get a weird one. That's right. Get a weird one that says, oh, I to tpublic.com. Search for the Weekly Planet. Get a weird one. That's right. Get a weird one that says
Starting point is 02:12:06 I'm the Weekly Planet. I'm the Weekly Planet. Maybe that. We're falling off a cliff and it says I'm the Weekly Planet. We're both saying it simultaneously. I was supposed to die this week, wasn't I? I forgot about that. Yeah. Well, I didn't.
Starting point is 02:12:20 Take that, haters. Well, you missed your chance, death. That's right yeah and that is the whole show next week Guardians of the Galaxy that's right
Starting point is 02:12:30 that's absolutely right I'm very excited to see what's coming next on that one Mason who's gonna die who is it all of them they all die
Starting point is 02:12:37 they all die at once you think so big shout out to Maisie and Fidel and Sarabi also who do a number of things across the socials and great mates group and also the weekly was because we're on TikTok as well and they take and Sarabi also who do a number of things across the socials and Great Mates group.
Starting point is 02:12:45 And also the weekly was because we're on TikTok as well and they take care of that. And there's a weekly Planet Clips YouTube channel as well, which is if you want to subscribe to that. We're bloody everywhere. You can't escape us. Everywhere, yeah. But they stop the Great Mates group from descending into absolute madness
Starting point is 02:13:01 and anarchy. So we appreciate that. That's very true. All right, Mason. Next week is Mentioned Guardians and then Snake Eyes. That's right. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you nextarchy. So we appreciate that. All right, Mason, next week is Mentioned Guardians and then Snake Eyes. That's right, grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week.
Starting point is 02:13:08 Bye. Bye forever. Not forever. No, next week. If I'm alive. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
Starting point is 02:13:27 One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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