The Weekly Planet - 478 Longest Running Franchises

Episode Date: May 15, 2023

Get ready for a borderline nonsensical discussion about some of the longest running TV and movie franchises! Star Wars! Star Trek! Bond! The Australian children's educational program Playschool! Plus we talk HUGE news for the Fast & Furious Saga on the eve of Fast X, more writers strike delays, trailers for The Meg 2 and Oppenheimer, more CW cancellations, a Superman Legacy update and more. Thanks for listening!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Nick Mason on FOFOP - The Rock for President: https://tofop.com/fofop/the-rock-for-president-with-nick-mason/Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start04:08 Writers Strike Delays09:35 All That Zaz13:13 The Meg 2: The Trench Trailer17:45 Oppenheimer Trailer19:43 Zack Snyder’s DC Trilogy22:40 Superman: Legacy Casting27:50 CW Cancellations29:33 Disney Plus & Hulu Merger34:18 Fast X is a Trilogy?36:30 Fast X Casting Spoilers (spoilers 36:30 to 44:38)44:38 Best & Worst Longest Running Franchises01:17:16 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:23:15 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me, as always, is co-host Nick Maeseman. And welcome to new listeners. Yeah, you're right. Did you say welcome back to another episode? Did I? Is that what I normally say? You normally say that, and I'm like, I don't want to interrupt your groove there,

but, I mean, obviously some listeners are new listeners, one would hope. And some listeners are leaving. Bye, everyone. Let us know if you're leaving or a new listener. Don't let the podcast door hit you in the podcast bum on the way out. Podcast bum? Yeah. So if you listen to a podcast, you have a podcast bum.

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news. It's bad, isn't it? Yeah. I love podcasting, that's the thing. I also love podcasting. I love the sport of it. This is like a sport. I love the smell of it. Depends on the room. Depends who you do it with. That's what I've found. That is very true, isn't it?

Mason, big news this week. Oh, big news. We're going to be talking a bit more about the writer's strike and what's been affected by that. Trailers, two epic trailers. Oh, my God, epic trailers. Epic in their own ways. We've got the Meg 2, The Trench, and we've got Oppenheimer.

Two epic semi-real-world events that happened. I'd say they're both pretty epic bacon, if you ask me. Yeah, is that what you think? Both the revelation of more the Megs to wreak havoc across the oceans and also the creation of the atomic bomb. Those things are both epic bacon as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I agree with you. We're also going to talk about-

What's another outdated term that people would use from that era? Like 2010. They're very elite, but I've spelt it with numbers. Oh, okay, right. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were talking about bussing before the show, but that's probably like three to four years old. Yeah, yeah.

You said, I think we did maybe a caravan of garbage or something recently, and you said the word riz. You said somebody has a riz. That's coming up, yeah. And I'm like the instant, like it's already too late. The fact that we know about it, that term is already – It got to us. It's over.

It's well over. And then it gets to Jimmy Fallon. That's right. Then we're going to talk about Zack Snyder's thoughts on maybe why his superhero trilogy didn't quite take flight with the general public. Oh, yeah. It was a trilogy.

Yeah. I've only just realised. At the end it was. We're going to talk some news on James Gunn's Superman Quite take flight with the general public. Oh, yeah. It was a trilogy. Yeah. Well. I only just realized. At the end it was. We're going to talk some news on James Gunn's Superman legacy, plus some stuff that was cancelled. And then big news because Fast and Furious is coming out, Fast X, this week.

And we've got some pretty interesting tidbits, which there will be some spoilers in that. But we'll let you know. Well, I was going to say, in regards to that, so if you were on the internet this week, if you're on Twitter this week, you probably have seen it, but if you don't want to know anything about the upcoming Fast X, I would say stay off the internet. But the thing that was revealed, it isn't a rumor as far as we know, or like a- No, scuttlebutt. Scuttlebutt. Andtlebutt and it's not something

that the it wasn't released in a teaser or anything like that basically just a news outlet saw fast x early yeah just went hey here's a big spoiler from the movie and so uh if you don't want to know about that everything's time coded in the podcast description but uh i would skip that section yeah probably like a couple of minutes either side sure in case of where the ads go a bit of wiggle room oh yeah exactly the ads of course and then we're going to talk about because fast x is such a well it's it's it's the 11th 12th because there's a spin-off movie in the in the in the fast franchise yeah 10th no 11th because it's fast x it's 10 right that's the point? Yes. Yeah, anyway, we're going to talk about long franchises that have been around forever.

And what's the longest? Great question. We don't know. You don't have an answer now? Yeah. Have you arranged them in length? Okay, great. Do you think a fun activity for the listeners might be to do that?

Someone can do it. At home? Yeah. Yeah, great. Or wherever they are. Yeah, you don't have to do it at home. Here we go, Mason. Now, normally when we talk about things that are delays,

we say delays but not dismays because, you know, it's okay to have a delay. It means that maybe often they're taking the time to get it right. It means they've moved the release date because they don't want Shazam 2 to go up against Avatar 2. That's right. You know what I mean? And sometimes that is true and sometimes it wouldn't matter even if it was

or wasn't or was released three or four months later because Avatar is just going to crush you. Yeah. Sorry, Shazam 2. But you did it to yourself. You made Shazam 2. But when it's writer's strike related, maybe we call it something like delays but good, you know?

I love that. Good. I love that. It's got a certain something, doesn't it? We could write something pithy, but we're also on strike. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Write a fun title for that.

Who has written something pithy. Go on. So Warner Brothers Discovery have come out with a statement saying that if you're a WGA member, HBO slash HBO Max respects your membership in the WGA and will not do anything to place you. We talked in depth about this last week, about the writer's strike and what's happening and all that. Basically, they want livable wages. There's more to it than that,

if you're doing all this in the last week's episode or that section. Anyway, it's saying, we respect what you're doing. However, we believe certain services, such as participating in the cast process or contributing to non-writing production and post-production work are clear examples of non-WGA required services that should continue to be rendered during this time. And then says, if you fail to provide contracted services

due to the strike, HBO slash HBO Max will not be obligated to continue your salary. Furthermore, see, that's like they're saying, like, if you're outside of writing, then go to work, right? Which is also not how a strike works. Like, the idea of a strike is that you don't go to work. You choose not to go. I think we should all go on strike.

You don't go to work. Are you going on strike? I mean, I have gone on strike. Let's go tell Claire that we're going on strike. We should do it. Claire, we're going on strike. From what, she'll say. Okay.

We don't know. We just wrapped up in the fur for Claire. What are you going to do about it? I threw a brick through the studio window. Further. Where did you get that brick? I chipped it off the side of the house. Further, if production is interrupted by the strike,

even if you offer to continue to work hbo slash hbo max will not be obligated to continue your salary nor the salary of the cast and crew so that's interesting so disney came up with something similar and said we want specifically you're all fired yeah probably we can do that we want specifically to reiterate to you as a showrunner or other writer producer that you are not excused from performing your duties as a showrunner and or producer on yourcer that you are not excused from performing your duties as a showrunner and or producer on your series as a result of the WGA strike. So basically, Disney is saying if you're a writer,

you actually can't strike. You have to go to work. Oh, interesting. Right. I think last week there was some suggestion that Tony Gilroy, the showrunner for Andor, was not going to go on strike. But now he's like, I'm definitely on strike, and I don't know anyone who said that I was not on strike.

And he's been on strike since it happened, like early May or whatever. So here's some of the shows that have been affected this week, but not all. So Tony Gilroy has ceased writing on Andor Season 2. Daredevil was interrupted by members of Teamster Local 817 who wouldn't cross picket lines. Yes, Teamsters. I know, right?

And The Last of Us Part 2 has been delayed. And that's just some of the things that have happened. Wow. Now, my answer to this would be just pay people money, like in line with inflation. What are you, a terrorist, James? I know. I mean, most people are really supportive,

but some people are like, well, you know, I don't even like TV anymore. So if like I don't like. Then you're out of well, you know, I don't even like TV anymore. So if like I don't like- And you're out of the equation. Yeah, I don't like fucking banks, but I don't go in and go, you shouldn't get paid because I don't like banking. You do that though. Yeah, I do, but I have a lot of free time.

That's a bad example and you only came up with that because you did that today. That's a fair point. Also a thing that I learned this week, the president of the SAG-AFTRA Actors Guild is Fran Drescher. Did you know that? Is it really? From the nanny.

The nanny herself. How's she going? I don't know, man. Also, did you know this? I knew this some weeks ago. You know Mr. Sheffield? Yeah. Whatever his real name is.

He's royalty. He found out he was royalty. But he recently found out. Yeah, like post the nanny. How close is he to like a King Ralph situation where like how many people die and he's the king? I don't know. Maybe it's not even British royalty. Maybe it's like Hungarian royalty or something.

Boo. I mean, I guess you take it. Yeah, that's right. I know British royalty, like they don't seem very happy. I saw, like, a photo of King Charles recently. Oh, yeah. And he just, I don't know. I mean, it's 76 as well.

Do you want to be doing fucking anything? Yeah. Let alone being a king? You're right. Awful. I mean, he looked like, you know, if you're like, oh, man, I'm going to get, you know, I'm going to get that video game or whatever and it's going to change. Whatever it is. Oh, I'm going to get that fast car and it's going to change my life. And you get in the car and you're like. oh, man, I'm going to get that video game or whatever and it's going to change, whatever it is, I'm going to get that fast car

and it's going to change my life. And you get in the car and you're like, this didn't change my life. He had that look. They put the king hat on him and he went, he's got a look of like, I'm the same guy. I'm the same on the inside. I looked inside and it's all the same. I'm still sausage on the inside.

I'm a big sausage man on the inside. I'm the same. God bless him. I'm proud of him, though. He worked hard to get there. Speaking of Warner Brothers' discovery and all that sort of stuff and them telling people what to do, I don't know if you checked out this Vanity Fair article.

It's called All That Zazz and it's a pro column on David Zaslav. Mason. Yes. Is this a puff piece or is this just some independent journalism going on here? What are we talking about? Let me tell you this. It is a puff piece, but I think it's got some funny reveals in it. Okay.

And I think we'll prove to you that David Zaslav, the guy who was controlling all the output from Warner Brothers Discovery from here on, is just a regular guy like you and me. Like me and you. In fact, says Nancy Pelosi, he's a reflection of his audience he's a regular guy my understanding of her is that she fucking sucks that's my understanding because i know like technically she's supposed to be on the left which is fucking ludicrous by the way she's just been fleecing fucking everybody for decades you're in the weeds you're in the i'm in the weeds

of it but what my point is when people are like, well, Nancy Pelosi should go to jail. Okay. Oh, no. What am I going to do? Not Nancy Pelosi. It gives a shit. How are you going to feed your family, James, if Nancy Pelosi's in the clink, breaking rocks in the hot sun? Anyway, here's an anecdote

from Vanity Fair. In July 2019, the Zaslavs were on Geffen's yacht. I'm assumings were on Geffen's yacht. I'm assuming it's David Geffen's yacht. Sailing around the Mediterranean with a crew that included Winfrey King and Lloyd and Laura Jacobs Blankfein. I don't know who those are. Okay.

One night. Those are normal names. They're all normal. Wink, Flood, Brin. What was that? Laura Jacobs Blankfein. Okay. And Winfrey and King.

I assume Oprah Winfrey. Oh, fine. Okay. And Winfrey and King. I assume Oprah Winfrey and... Oh, okay. Yeah. One night they decided to screen the award-winning BBC comedy Fleabag, which was made by a production company that Discovery now owns, but which Zaslav hadn't gotten around to watching. A minute into the first episode, the group found itself in the midst of a hot and heavy sex scene.

I remember. Pause. So I put my hand up, recalls Zaslav. I go, whoa. So they stop it and i said okay here's the strategy we either shut it off or we put it back on and everybody only looks forward we don't look at each other until it's over they opted for the latter so this guy is the guy who's looking at all the the art and entertainment being produced by this organisation now and he can be like, no. No, thank you.

Let's all just look forward. They're not at each other. Let's just speed through it. Let's shut it off or speed through looking forward and not looking at each other. It's so weird they put Fleabag on though as well. Yeah, that's a weird, like Fleabag is a show you either watch by yourself with like a partner or something.

It's not a group watching activity. It's not like watching Captain America pick up Thor's hammer kind of shit. You know what I mean? Like what are you looking for? The revelation that like her best friend killed herself through Fleabag's actions. Is that what you're, and then the audience. No, but then it's just like an end game.

Woo! I knew it. It was my theory. On your left. On your left. Anyway. Anyway, watch Fleabag. That's the reveal in the first episode.

That won't spoil the series if you have not seen it. Yeah. So anyway, any more normal stuff? It's all pretty normal. That's as normal as it gets. Yeah, I agree. Oh, my God. I just love the idea of that. Just the guy who's like, I don't Oh, my God. I just love the idea of that.

Just the guy who's like, I don't like this. Yeah. I don't like this. I don't think anybody should. Guys, I think we need a strategy meeting. I mean, obviously, we could just wait one minute and this will be over. Yeah. Or I could make a really big, weird deal about it.

Anyway, very normal. I agree. Normalist man we have. Probably. They should call him Norman Normalman. Oh, yeah. That's how normal he is. I agree. Normalist man we have. Probably. They should call him Norman Normalman. Oh, yeah. That's how normal he is. I agree.

Trailers of High Basin. Oh, that's very apt because we're talking about the Meg 2, the Trench. I mean, I knew this. It's three additional Megs. I was like this. It's three more to Meg. It's three more than we've seen.

This is time there's three more to Meg. It's August. And I just thought. It's three more than we've seen. I mean, this is- This is time there's three more to me. It's August. And I just thought- It's August. They made this. This isn't normal to Meg season, August. They're coming in out of season. Three more to Megs from out in the trench.

What is the deal? What is the deal? I was Seinfeld is? It's too many sharks. I was really surprised that this is, like I knew it was coming out this year, but they made it. Like it's here. Thrilling, isn't it?

I like that they're just leaning into, this is just the stupidest thing you can make. Because I think the last one, if there's like any fault in it, and there barely is, Mason, it's that it's kind of too serious. Right. You don't need to. I mean, as in like this, like I want more wacky scenarios. You know, there's a moment in that first movie where like a Meg eats another Meg.

I thought they got the Meg, but there's a second Meg. Second the bigger the Meg. And then at the end, it's just like Star Wars underwater and fucking submarines or whatever. Sure, sure, sure. This looks more like Piranha. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? Yeah.

Made it to the beach. There's a bit where he puts his foot on the Meg's mouth. I'm assuming that's not him holding the Meg back. I don't know, man. And that's him holding him, pushing himself away. You don't know? No, man Meg back. I don't know, man. And that's him holding him, pushing himself away. You don't know? No, man. Yeah.

I like him. You won't get this orphanage to Meg. I'm holding you. I'm holding him back, but I don't know how long I can hold him back. This is Jason Statham, by the way. It doesn't sound anything like Jason Statham. No, I know. I think it's got a vibe to it.

The orphanage is three miles inland, but I think it could do it. I don't think it could do it, Jason. I don't think it could do it, Jason. Jason, please. Jason, get out of the water, Jason. Jason, I think there's more pressing concerns right now. So it looks like there's, are there some cast returning? I don't remember who was in the first movie. Cliff Curtis is in it. Wasn't Ruby Rose in the first one?

Yes, she was. Yeah, you're right. I recognize some of these faces. Let me tell you. I don't know. I don't remember who's in the first one? Yes, she was. Yeah, you're right. I recognise some of these faces. Let me tell you. I don't know. I don't remember who's in the first movie and who isn't. They've also got some kind of underground, maybe like underwater like Jurassic Park kind of thing, situation or some kind of preserve of Megs that they're keeping an eye on.

I like the way it is. We've got a Meg preserve. It turned them into preserves. Jason. Jason, they're not turning. These characters have Jason. They'll turn him into preserves. It's to preserve their natural habitat.

Like a gem. So he says at one point that, like, this is the biggest The Meg we've ever seen. But the last The Megs weren't that big, if you recall. They were pretty big, weren't they? Yeah, but bigger than Jaws. Yeah. But nobody's impressed by Jaws anymore.

Oh, that is true. But I like the bit at the start where you see, like, a dinosaur eats another dinosaur, whatever, then The Meg eats the big dinosaur, and that's all good stuff. That's the same Meg. The state that meets The Meg. It's the same. He torpedoes out of the big dinosaur and that's all good stuff. That's the same meg. The state that meets the meg. It's the same. He torpedoes out of the water. That's the same meg, I assume, like from the pre-strike one

because don't sharks technically like can like live for a really, really long time, 65 million years potentially? I don't think that's true, no. I mean not that long but like they can live like, sharks can live like an exceptionally long time, right? Might be thinking of lobsters. Yeah, you might be thinking of lobsters or crabs possibly. How long can a shark?

Whales can live a long time. Turtles can live a long time. Oh, 20 to 30 years. Okay, no, I was way off on this. Collins, take all of this out. No, no, leave it in. Say I say crabs or something else, whatever the right thing is. How long does a the Meg live?

That Meg's got to be 30 years old. It's ancient by Meg's standards. No, it's 80 to like 100 years. I'm an idiot. I feel bad about that. I think you're cool. No, I can be cool and an idiot. Yeah, cool idiot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me finish. Yeah, so that's fun. Anyway, that's really exciting. Just a really, if you haven't seen the Piranha 3D was the one with Christopher Lloyd and whatever. That's a silly movie. Is Christopher Lloyd

in that? Yeah, he's like, there's too many Piranhas. Yeah, there are. What you mean, old man? Anyway. Should we talk about the other trailer though? Yes. It's for Oppenheimer. Oh, yes. It's serious business. It's very serious business. They're making a big bomb and they have to for the war. They're legally obligated to go to work and do this.

There's no going on strike. You have to make the bomb. But then maybe too much bomb. Maybe they could have made a smaller bomb. Yeah. Something to think about. I think that's probably going to be a conversation that's had in the movie. Have you gotten early access to some maybe the script there? I wrote the script. It sounds like an awful. No, that's me. You be a conversation that's had in the movie. Have you gotten early access to maybe the script there?

I wrote the script. It sounds like an awful thing. No, that's me. You're just reading off your laptop there. I wrote it. That's me, yeah. Hey, Oppenheimer, I think maybe your bomb might be a bit big. Well, you know, we can't change it now.

I'm going to chip some plutonium on the bomb. Yeah, we put all the atoms in it or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Put the screws in it. Try and unscrew that. You can't do it. Mate, I don't know. Put the screws in. Like, try and unscrew that. Yeah. You can't do it.

Mate, you can't do it. Stuck in there tight, mate. Bloody hell. Yeah. So the only thing I say that would take me out of this movie is that Matt Damon is in it. Right. And not because he's bad.

I recently watched the movie Air, where they're like, we're going to make this shoe for Michael Jordan or we're going to all die. But in this, he's like, we're going to make this bomb. Otherwise, we're going to make this shoe for Michael Jordan or we're going to all die. But in this he's like, we're going to make this bomb. Otherwise we're going to all die. For Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan's going to drop the bomb. But I just think like.

He's too big a star. Yeah, he's too big a star. And maybe, you know, but I don't think it'll be, I don't think it'll be a problem because I like him as an actor. But no, it looks really good. It looks like the exact kind of movie that my dad would like. And that's the kind of movie I get excited for, Mason. Because I owe him one for when I took him to The Mummy 2017.

That's a true story that happened. He didn't like it. Interesting. He wasn't the only one, though. Yeah, I don't think anyone liked it. And also, why did you invite your dad to The Mummy 2017? I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking.

I would have had, like, a really young kid at the time. So that's probably why I did it. Probably brain half-working and wanted to get out of the house. Again, all my opinions from like 2015 to now are completely invalid. Yeah, right. So don't even worry about it. Now, Mason, the Direct, they've got news of Zack Snyder at a full circle charity event, which is great.

It's all about the fans. He likes his charity. He likes showing his movies and being like, this means that and Dark Side is whatever. He likes doing that and that's cool. He likes wearing a suit and tie and then he rolls his sleeves up. He's got a lot of tattoos. That's right.

What do you think of that? Yeah. Bit of a contrast, isn't it? It is. Didn't expect that when I rolled up the sleeves. Show of hands, who thought that was a bit of a contrast? That's what I thought. You got it.

That's what I was going for. Anyway, so in this Q&A, he talked about why maybe his movies as mentioned, his Justice League trilogy didn't fully take flight. We're talking Man of Steel, we're talking Batman v Superman, we're talking his four hour cut of Justice League,

which went for four hours. And he's getting a bit of flack for this, but look, I don't think it's that big a deal, really. But he said, I think what probably caused the movie to be so polarizing, I think, and maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like a lot of people went into those movies going, oh, it's like a superhero romp, right? Let's have fun with it. And we gave them this sort of hardcore.

That's a thing you say. That's what I say, Mason. Is he listening to me? No. Oh, good. And then we gave him, uh, this sort of bro brain. We might, yeah. We gave him this sort of, gave him this sort of hardcore deconstructivist, heavy layered experimental modern mythology superhero movie that needs, that, that you really need to pay attention to. First of all, no, you didn't, but carry on. That was not cool for them. That's something, that's really need to pay attention to. First of all, no, you didn't, but carry on. That was not cool for them. That's something, that's not something anyone wanted to do. They were like, what?

No, that's exhausting. How about, why do they fight at night? I hate that. So, yeah, I don't know. I don't think, I mean, we've talked about these extensively. Oh, yes. We don't love those movies. But we, I feel like we got it. We're in love with them. Yeah, we're in love with them. We don't love those movies. But I feel like we got it.

We're in love with them. Yeah, we're in love with them. We don't love them. I admire, like, I just think they're, I'm glad they exist. Sure. I enjoy that aspect. Okay, great. Terrific.

But, like, I get it. The themes and the whatever and the imagery and the gods, because often there'll be a painting of gods and demons and then they're like, huh? All right. Because, like, Superman and Batman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get it?

Yeah. I get it. I get it. And then like sometimes Superman or Batman, they'll make the exact pose from the stained glass behind them and they'll be like, huh? Sometimes a finger will reach out and another finger will go to touch it. E.T.

And that's like that movie E.T., exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's beautiful. Yeah, so there you go. That's fun. I mean, look, I'm sure there are some people who, yeah, that is true for. Like they just want, you know, they want the Avengers of fucking,

you know, of Batman v Superman where they go in and they go, is this for real? And whatever, whatever. And we got that with Justice League 2017. So everybody wins. Everybody's happy. Everybody's happy. Everybody's got the perfect movie that they wanted.

There were two camps. It was Fun Romp. Fun Romp. Fun Romp wants brunch. Yep. Fun Romp. Fun Romp. What's Brunch? Yep. Fun Romp, What's Brunch? Yep. And then the other one.

The other one that happens. As far as long and maybe black and white sometimes. Yeah. Hang on, the version you get on your TV settings or whatever. What steel hook you bought. Mason, let's stick to DC though. Okay. Let's stick it to DC.

Here we go. Here we bloody go. This is by a DC guy on Twitter. Oh. There was an interview with James Gunn. Is that official? Yes. Great. There was an interview with James Gunn. Is that official? Yes.

Great. There was an interview with James Gunn, and he seemingly confirmed crypto being in the movie. Yes. But it was also in kind of a joke discussion that he was having with Chris Pratt. By crypto, you mean? Crypto the super dog.

Not cryptocurrency. No. The movie isn't going to be associated with cryptocurrency. I'd like that, though. That's a doge coin, let me tell you. Agreed. Because they're both dogs. But it seemed like, I watched the video

and it's kind of like it could be seen as like a joke discussion with Chris Pratt. I love that. Just like messing about. Oh yeah. Just boys, you know, just boys and that's fine. Also I think it was probably this week that James Gunn went on Twitter and he answered a bunch of

yes or no questions from followers. And one of them, I think, was is there anybody from the Guardians movies who's going to be in the new Superman legacy that he's directing? And he said yes. So who do you think it could be? Well, he said it's not one of the main people in the Superman movie. Right, right. I mean, probably Rooker.

Yeah, I mean. Or his brother. Simplest, the obvious answer is Rooker, Sean Gunn, maybe Nathan Fillion in some sort of background roles. Yeah. That would make a lot of sense. What do you think Nathan Fillion, Perry White? What do you think about Michael Rooker, Perry White?

Ooh, I like both of those. Something to think about. Conjoined twins, Perry White. I like that. How about this? Yeah. Phil Poulter, Jimmy Ol twins. Yeah. Unlike that. How about this? Yeah. Will Poulter, Jimmy Olsen. Yeah, I like that a lot.

Also, the names work together. Yeah. Will Poulter, Jimmy Olsen. Yeah. Jimmy Olsen, Will Poulter. You need to shrink back down again, though. That's true, yes. Or he could be bursting out of his argyle vest.

Oh, yeah. How tall is Will Poulter? No idea. Let's check. Okay, let's check. Because you need Superman to be six, he's six-toe. That's pretty fucking big. Is he really?

Yeah. He doesn't give off six-two energy. No? No. I think he does. All right, great, good. Well, that's too tall for Jimmy Olsen, I think. I mean, you get a taller Superman.

That's true. Even taller. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine. But you're also talking about- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Exactly. There was rumors this week about who's being cast and who's being looked at or whatever,

and James Gunn also came out and said that I haven't, like, it's not locked in. Like, I'm not going to reveal who's auditioning and whatever and whatever. So, yeah, I don't expect anything concrete anytime soon. But it's basically like if there's a tall guy with brown hair in Hollywood, probably. They've probably gone up for this.

That's true, yes. But there was a Wired interview, I don't know if you saw this, where he mentioned Superman Legacy and it's going to start filming in January. Now, he also said he submitted his script for the first draft before the writer's strike. That's true. So I don't know whether, like, maybe he's further along than we think.

Maybe they expect it to be over by then so he can start. But that could very well be delayed. We'll have to see, Mason. We'll have to absolutely see. So hold your breath on that one. Too late, I'm holding it. So that's, did they say 20, yeah, it's 2025, right? So yeah, that would make sense if they film in January.

That feels soon, which is good. Who else could be in the team? Who's a good Lois Lane from that? What's her name? Mantis. She'd be a good Lois Lane. Or Zoe Saldana. Sure.

Or? Karen Gillan. Yes. Or Michael Rooker. Or Michael Rooker. With Nathan Fillion. That's right. Who can join Twins.

I love that. Yeah. Lex Luthor. I think I saw one of the names was. Michael Rooker. No, Mason. He's in The Great. Oh, Nicholas Holt.

He's the About a Boy Boy, yeah. Nicholas Holt. I think he'd be a good... And I also see him for Superman, but I think he'd be... I don't know. I think he'd be a better Lex Luthor than a Superman, I feel. But, yeah. Mm.

I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. And plus, he was Beast. He was Beast. He was Beast in a bunch of X-Men movies. He was Beast, and he was also, a lot of the times, just a guy. Nicholas Holt. With glasses on. Yeah, the plus he was Beast. He was Beast. He was Beast in a bunch of X-Men movies. He was Beast and he was also a lot of the times just a guy. Nicholas Holt.

With glasses on. Yeah, the about a boy boy. Yeah, the about a boy boy. Yeah, exactly. So maybe he doesn't want to take on a lead role or maybe he's ready for a big lead role. Who knows? I mean, who wouldn't want to be Superman?

If you got offered Superman, you. Yeah, me. Would you take it? You'd have to stand on a box. I'd have to get that leg surgery. I'd have to get that leg surgery. Oh, did you see on Twitter there's a guy who got it this week? Yes, I don't want to think about it.

Why did he do it? I don't know. It's not worth it. Maybe it is, though. Maybe it is, though. I don't know. I've learned to walk again. There's no video of him, like, walking properly in it either.

I understand people get it if, like, sometimes, you know, you can be born with one leg shorter than the other or whatever. So, like, it's – but, like, just – it can be 5'5". It's fine. Not if you want to be Superman though. Well, that's true. That's different. That's right.

You need to add an extra foot. Yeah. So, whew. That's a lot of leg. Yeah. You know? It is a lot of leg, yeah. Yeah.

Anyways, Mason. Anyway, I would do it. Okay, good. I would also be Wolverine. Yeah. Wolverine because that's like classic Wolverine hiding. Well, Wolverine is more like 5'3", so he's actually shorter. But it wouldn't work out though. I'd also be Wolverine. Yeah. Wolverine, because that's like classic Wolverine hiding. Well, Wolverine's more like 5'3", so he's actually shorter, but it wouldn't work out, though.

I'd just wear a stocky suit. I feel like the Vinnie Jones juggernaut suit. Yes, exactly. Absolutely. Yeah. I think Hugh Jackman. Although I have been sugar-free for two days, so maybe I could. Yeah, exactly.

You're going to probably be there by this time next week. Look at you, sugar-free. Look at you. That's what they call me. Thinking you're better than me? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Mason, this is CW News. Oh. oh they're canceling shit left and right canceling everything kung fu and the winchesters have been canceled oh no the kung fu is good never say no uh the winchesters is a supernatural prequel yes might also be good or not i don't know um variety reporting that superman and lois plus gotam Knights is also going to go I heard also one of them's going to go Well THR said yeah one of them will go and of those two I haven't seen Gotham Knights but there's a few clips of Superman and Lois

floating around this week and it's like Please don't fire us please That looks expensive It's by far the best looking of those shows I saw this. I saw this on Twitter, so I don't know if it's true or not. But I read this week that apparently even though the CW is owned

by Warner Brothers, whenever they use a character from DC, they have to pay a fee to Warner Brothers, I think. And that depends on. Wait, but CW is owned by Warner Brothers. Correct. But they're paying a fee. They Brothers, I think. Okay. And that depends on. Wait, but CW is owned by Warner Brothers. Correct. But they're paying a fee. They still have to pay. Whose budget does this come out of?

Some intercompany thing. I don't know how it works. But that would suggest that like, and I imagine Superman is not cheap. No. Yeah. And so one of the reasons I saw that people are saying, well, maybe Gotham Knights is going to survive is because it doesn't really have any names.

No, it's all like. And the main guys are made up new guys. And that explains. I think we talked about it. Groose Grain. Yeah, why is it Groose Grain and not, you know, Dick Grayson or Jason Todd or any of the other subs or Damian Wayne or any of the subsequent Robins as the son of the Batman?

It's because you don't have to pay for that name. Yeah, okay. So it's a, you know. That's weird, isn't it? That's right. Did you see also, oh, this is a bit of improv news, Mason. Sometimes we like to freewheel it. I'm doing improv news.

This is about the improv industry. Here we go. I'm coming into a room, Mason. Let me just pretend to sit on this chair. It's more clowning, I feel. I'm not very good at improv. I'm the level with you. But anyway. this you just make

this normal news or you want to commit to it this is improv the only way you get better at it is if you practice i think okay let's push through his improv news okay right hey mason i'm a newspaper reporter i got big news for you oh you're just james no james i said yes and oh okay extra extra buy this newspaper i'll tell you about the news in it, though. How much is the news? How much is the newspaper? The newspaper? 65 cents.

65 cents? What year is this? What year do you think it is? 65 cents. Like the 70s? No. It's the 70s? The 80s?

It's the 80s. Yep. And this news is from the 80s, then? No, this is news from the future. How'd you get it? I found it. Are you from the 80s,? No, this is news from the future. How'd you get it? I found it. Are you from the 80s but you've travelled to now? Yeah.

Yep. Yes, and. Okay, so you're a newsboy from the 80s. Yep, man. And you're a newsman and you've travelled from the 80s to now and you've decided to maintain your sanity. Yes. You've decided to just keep your career

as a news boy, man. Yeah, and sell newspapers. But you haven't gotten a job. You've just found a piece of news and you're selling it to me for the price that it would have cost in the 80s. Yeah, I found just this one. All right, this I've got to see. And with this 65 cents, I'm going to probably go buy like a sandwich. Oh, man this I've got to see. And with this $0.65, I'm going to probably go buy like a sandwich.

Oh, man, I've got bad news. About the price of sandwiches. Even in the 80s. Anyway, here's $0.65. Thank you. So apparently Hulu in the US is going to be folded into Disney+, which is what it is in most other regions of the world. Yeah, we have a sub channel called Star,

which has most Hulu stuff, yeah. Yeah, that's right. But it's always missing something you want. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? It's always like everybody's talking about this show on Hulu and you're like, oh, I'll find it on Disney. It's not there.

Nah, it's not there. You've got to wait for it. Or they'll release it like week to week or something as opposed to like it all in one batch. But apparently there's some kind of thing where like, I think it's Comcast. Who the fuck knows? One of the three companies and they own like a third of Hulu.

Right. So Disney or Comcast next year have to decide like one of them has to buy it out or something. I can't remember. So look forward to one company swallowing another company, which is my favorite bit of news. It's whichever one you're not currently subscribed to, that's the one that's going to buy it and then you won't have it. Yeah.

So that's cool. Can I have that newspaper back? You're going to sell it again? Yeah. All right, I guess. I'm going to get two sandwiches. Man, I've got such bad news for you. So there you go.

I bet as a newsboy man from the past, I bet you're still glad that Fred Bassett is still in the news. I certainly am. Thank goodness. Yeah. Also, THR said that the remainder of the schedule is apparently going to, for CW because they're just gutting that whole thing, is going to consist of unscripted series and low-cost imports.

Yes. That's good. The future of entertainment. Drek. I love Drek. No. But, I mean, maybe we're out of touch. Also, I saw this on Twitter this week.

When they talk about, like, this is the biggest show, I'm like, I've never heard of this. Yeah, yeah, the one. What's Vanderpump Rules? What the fuck is that? The Good Surgeon or whatever it's called? Yeah. The one you've mentioned that's about he's got autism.

I have mentioned that before, right? Yeah, I think so. Like, on this show. I think so. I didn't know it was still going. Yeah, yeah. Just a show where they're like, this guy's got autism, but it's a superpower, and also he freaks out all the time

or whatever. That show apparently, and, like, that and, you know, because on Twitter, everybody's like, oh, Succession, the best show the time or whatever. That show apparently, and like that and, you know, because on Twitter everybody's like, oh, Succession, the best show ever made or whatever. And that has about 2 million viewers or something. Yeah, exactly. Whereas these shows have 20, 30 million viewers. Because people who watch that, they don't spend their time online like us.

They're not online freaks. That's true. So that's what's going on there. They're real-life freaks. They're real-life freaks watching The Good Surgeon. What's hilarious about that show is, first of all, that it what's going on there. They're real life freaks. They're real life freaks watching The Good Surgeon. What's hilarious about that show is, first of all, that it's still going. And this guy who's supposed to be autistic,

he's a fucking robot. They've written a robot into this show. I mean, it would make more sense if it was called Robot Doctor. Yeah, yeah. And he was a literal robot. In the 80s, he would have been Robot Doctor. Yeah, exactly. That's where I'm from.

He's still that guy. Yeah, yeah. All right. That he would have been robot doctor. Yeah, exactly. That's where I'm from. He's still our guy. Yeah, yeah. All right. That'll be 65 cents, thanks. Oh, man. Wild. Anyway, Mason, we're going to do our Fast X news. We're not going to do the spoiler thing.

I'll tell you when it's going to happen. Okay, right. So people will know. But I would say if you're super concerned about avoiding spoilers. Yeah, I wish that I hadn't known the thing going in. That would have been a – Ordinarily, I'm like, yeah, you know, you learn some stuff or there's a reveal or whatever. I was going to see it anyway.

Yeah, that's right. And it's so close to the release of the movie as well. But, yeah, ordinarily with this sort of stuff, I'm like, yeah, of course, whatever. But this particular thing, I'm like, that's big. Come on, Jack. Come on to the wrap. Yeah. Well, anyway, we'll yeah, of course, whatever. But this particular thing, I'm like, that's big. Come on, Jack. Come on to the rap. Yeah. Well, anyway, we'll get to that in a minute.

But Vin Diesel confirmed in an interview that Fast X is not going to be Fast X Part 1, Part 2. It's going to be Fast X Part 1, Part 2, Part 3. Ooh. Ooh is right, Mason. That's right. Do you think he was supposed to say that? The ooh bit.

I mean that, but also the... Yeah. No, it did, but it felt like kind of an off-the-cuff reveal. I don't believe any of this. It's some executive calling you up and being like, Vin, you shouldn't have... Nothing's off-the-cuff, man. I just don't think...

Yeah, right, right. You don't even think that the reveal we're going to talk about later, the big spoiler, you don't even think that's necessarily. I don't think it's. You think that's a deliberate thing. I think it's a deliberate leak. Not even a leak. It's just like, can you say this thing?

So anyway, what do you think about that? Fast X being a trilogy. A number of like opinions came back and people were like, it's the worst one ever and I loved it. I don't know. I can't tell. I don't know. No, look.

We'll talk about it next week. I mean, I think they're, as far as I know as i know they're you know they're doing well financially why they're on the a little bit they're on the down okay right well i mean that case i guess it's just make hay while the sun shines and just make as many until the until the money runs out exactly the profits so they can integrate the netflix series into the live-action series. Exactly, that's right. A beautiful hybrid. And my guess would also be they are probably tested. Three movies gives them a chance to test out different pairings of characters, new characters.

That'd be nice. Anybody, you know, can we do a flash forward and see their kids and maybe their kids, you know, in Hover Hondas. Hover Hondas. Hover Hondas. That's right. That's great. Anyway, huge spoilers.

Here it comes. Fast X. Big spoilers. By The Wrap. The Wrap saw it, this movie. They saw it in advance. They're like, here's a review. We liked it or whatever.

I don't know. I don't actually know their opinion on the movie. No. But they're like, here's a big reveal. James, you want to do a big reveal? The Rock is returning to the franchise in his role as Hobbs or Shaw. That's right. Hobbs?

Hobbs. Luke Hobbs. Luke Hobbs. Yeah. So apparently it's in a post. He has to call himself Luke Hobbs now. All the characters refer to him as Luke Hobbs. It's a little punishment for him.

So I think it's a post credits, I believe, which also was like that's a bad thing to reveal in a post. Okay, we talked about this before the show, but remember when they were like get ready for Superman to show up in Black Adam in a post-credits and they tried to sell the movie on that? And people would be like, or I can wait five minutes and somebody will watch it and record it on their phone and put it on YouTube and you don't have to. And then it'll spread like pee in a pool. You can't get it off the internet and you'll be able to see it. But you can't do that with – if The Rock were to show up at the second act mark, oh, no, everything's – all the cars have –

we can't start the cars. They're filled with tarantulas. They're all filled with tarantulas. We're all afraid of tarantulas. If only Hobbes were here because he canonically is not afraid of tarantulas. Well, I'm here. And I'm canonically not afraid of tarantulas. If only Hobbes were here because he canonically is not afraid of tarantulas. Well, I'm here. And I'm canonically not afraid of tarantulas. That's right, exactly. Thank you for

remembering. And I've got this broom. The world's biggest broom. No one else could lift it. I don't think the studio would be... Because the studios have relationships with these big sites like Variety, The Wrap, THR.

Weekly Planet Podcast. Obviously, I was going to say not like us, but just like us. They come to us and they say, here's some news. Get this out in the world. So I don't think- David Zaslav's normal. Let everybody know how normal he is. The wrap-

I don't know, man. This seems too normal. The wrap is not allowed, I would say, to break this if it hadn't already been broken by somebody else. Right. So I think them being the first says to me that they went to them and said, can you put this out there that, what's his name, is returning in the whatever.

Sounds like a tinfoil hat territory. Am I right, everybody? Yeah, maybe. Listeners. It gets me thinking, and I think this is way less chance of it being true. Right, this is dangerous. If this gets either of us thinking, honestly, this is dangerous territory. Was this entire thing contrived from the get-go?

Because for people who have not been caught up in all this drama, Vin Diesel, was it Vin Diesel who said there was somebody on set who was very unprofessional? It wasn't The Rock saying it. Vin Diesel was like, is somebody? I think The Rock said it about Vin Diesel. Vin The Rock saying it. Vin Diesel was like. No, I think The Rock said it about Vin Diesel. Vin Diesel was saying it. I can't remember.

One of them said that there was somebody on set who was very unprofessional during the production of one of the Fast movies. Yeah. And then it was revealed that Vin and The Rock did not get along. And then they had a big bust up. And, of course, The Rock went and did Hobbs and Shaw. And The Rock was like, I hate your family. Yeah, and there was a moment where Vin was like,

hey, don't your kids call me Uncle Vin and all that sort of stuff. It's your destiny to come back to the Fast and Furious saga. And when that happened, I remember thinking, well, you can't bring – like that feels very personal. Yeah. It's all well and good to do the wrestling back and forth of like, you don't have the guts to do whatever, but to be like it's all well and good to do the wrestling back and forth of like you don't have the guts to do whatever but to be like your kids suck you didn't say that but like no it seems weird to bring that personal level in and be like i think your kids would like you to come back in

don't tell me what my kids would like me to get out of here yeah kind of thing it felt like a real so i mean and then there was the tyrese thing where the rock reviewed tyrese's albums and our latest and didn't tyrese say something like like, why do you get a spin-off or whatever? Yeah, and you're ruining the franchise and whatever, whatever. But yeah. Oh, that reminds me. I think I should have put that.

I think that's less likely that that's a fucking, yeah. That reminds me. I should have put this at the start of the show, but I was on an episode of ToeFop this week. Oh, my God. And we talked about the rise and fall of The Rock, and by that I mean his rise and rise and rise and then a little bit of a dip in his career.

And he'll probably be okay. Yeah, he'll be absolutely fine. People can check that out. I completely agree. You should check that out. What a great show, Mason. Thank you. So, yeah, the other thing is, like, if it's a post-credits,

it says to me that maybe this was because I know the Superman thing was filmed, like, two weeks before Black Adam came out. Like is this just a thing they've tacked on recently? They reached some kind of contractual agreement or whatever. Yeah, maybe it's just been lawyers have been hashing this out for six months. Yeah, possible. And is this also The Rock going back to the well? Because?

Like Black Adam's fallen off. Like that was supposed to, he was supposed to take over the DC universe. That's true, yeah. Remember that recent coup he attempted? Yeah, I do remember that. He hasn't got any other kind of. He's got to put the stocks. Yeah.

They're throwing rotten fruit at him. He hasn't got any other big franchises on the go at the moment, except maybe Jumanji, but that's not really doing anything at the moment, my understanding. A new Jumanji would do well. Jungle Cruise. Jungle Cruise. Jungle Cruise, exactly. This is what I'm talking about.

So it makes sense that the franchise which made him like a billion-dollar action star, and he also helped, by the way, because Five, we've watched it recently. He's really good in Five. He really adds something to those movies. I mean, it wouldn't shock me if his lawyers went in and went, listen, he was in Five, they could say. Yeah.

This dude was in Five. He was in Five. That was a good one. Not the boy band. Why would you bring that up? He's not abs. Fast and Furious Five. Yeah, exactly.

Dang it. But I would have, honestly, as far as post-credits go, if I had have seen this reveal, I would have, my jaw would hit the floor. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Because I'd be tricked by PR. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yet again.

But again, at this point, if you're not interested in the Fast and Furious movies, I don't think a- Get on board. I don't think a 10-second cameo at the end of this one is going to- No. I mean, I guess it's a long-term strategy. I think maybe you're counting on people coming back who were fans maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know. Who are like, oh, I know him. I like him. Whatever. I think it should have been more akin to Ice Cube returning in XXXIII. I hear you, man. Towards the end of the thing and he gets his own action sequence and he kills everybody with a rocket launcher.

Exactly. Thank you. Finally somebody said it. I mean, I guess the question is because one of the things. And everybody goes, it's XXX 2005 or whatever. Thank you. Yeah. Finally, somebody said it. I mean, I guess the question is because one of the things. And everybody goes, it's XXX 2005 or whatever. Or whatever. That's the one we didn't see. Yeah.

It's here, I think. I didn't see it. Here's a question. Go on. This is going to be my surprise. Now, in a break. He's got a gun. In a break from tradition.

Oh, yes. Hobbs and Shaw, Hobbs in that, which I think is the Rock character, doesn't have his little black goatee. Oh. And I think that's maybe why the movie didn't do as well. You think so? Yeah, that's why. That's the only reason.

Not because there was a nanonight man and it made no sense and who cares. So is he going to have his Luke Hobbs beard? That classic character, his little goatee. Or has the Rock sort of evolved his career to the point where he's like, I will not grow any of that. I will work out to within an inch of my life, but I will not grow any facial hair.

But I feel like that look is synonymous with Hobbs. Or Shaw. Yeah, but if you look at like, otherwise it's Jungle Cruise or it's Black Adam even. So that's what I'm saying. What if his new look is he. Mr. Elevator had a beard. What if he continually has a broken arm like he did in Seven?

Well, that would make sense. Yeah, and he's still dragging that minigun. Yeah, he's like, I broke it again. Signature look though. Yeah, signature look, yeah. I don't know. We'll find out about the goatee. But anyway. Do you think he won't? Yeah. Well, he didn't in Hobbs and Shaw. That's true, though. Yeah, signature look, yeah. I don't know. We'll find out about the goatee, but anyway. Do you think he won't?

Yeah. Well, he didn't in Hobbs & Shaw. That's true, yeah. Yeah. Something to think about. It is. I mean, maybe Vin insisted on the goatee, and then in Hobbs & Shaw he's like, I'm free.

You can't make me. Finally. And in this he's got a comeback hat in hand, and Vin's going to be like. Goatee on chin. Put the goatee on. Put it on. I'm going to put it on for you.

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Well, Mason, the Faster Views franchise has now been going for 22 years or something. And we'll probably go for 22 more. Ah, 44 years. 44 years. And we'll be saying the 44th anniversary. We'll all be there stamping our feet. 44 years. Everyone, Michelle Rodriguez and Vin will be in their walkers. We'll all be there stamping our feet. 44 years. Michelle Rodriguez and Vin will be in their walkers.

Yeah, that's all good and fun. So we thought let's, before we get to that new movie next week, let's talk about some of the longest running franchises in TV and film. Also, before you say that, does the original The Fast and the Furious count? No. Well, that's what I think what we're going to get into. Yeah, yeah. Because in a franchise, what's an acceptable gap?

Like, when does it become a new thing? Does a reboot count? Like, is that part of the same franchise? These are all great questions, and we're going to establish that when, I would say a reboot doesn't count. Okay. But I'm just saying, James, give me some more examples. Well, let's go, like, just for example,

we're going to talk about the Bond movies. Yes. Like, the Craig era is a reboot. It is a reboot, it's true. But does that count?'re going to talk about the Bond movies. Yes. Like the Craig era is a reboot. It is a reboot. But does that count? Because I feel like there's no gap really. They just keep making them. And also they're not really connected, are they, those movies?

No. Yeah. Well, we're going to have to talk about it. You know, we'll see. At the end of each one we talk about, we'll say. We'll say, is this a real franchise? And if the answer's no. Yep.

We're going to go to our local JB Hi-Fi or other – Harvey Norman. Harvey Norman, other home media things, and we're going to go there and we're going to split them up. Yep. We're going to put a big stick between Brosnan and Daniel Craig. It'll be like, nope.

Yeah, and if anybody tries to stop us – Slap them. Yeah, we'll say, hey, we're from the podcast. Yeah, we're from podcasting, all right? We're going to make some changes around here. The other thing is I don't think this counts, but I wanted to throw it to you. Some of these franchises survived maybe in like an animated series

or like comic books. Like Shatner continued writing William Shatner's Star Trek fanfic after he fell off that bridge or whatever. I've read some of those. I've read more than one of those. More than one? That's too many. In a lot of ways.

I think what we'll probably come up with here is not a lot of Vufin advances, but we will say a lot of things, and at the end we'll go, yeah. Yeah, and that's all you need. That's all you need, I think. So I don't think that counts. When it steps away from TV and film, I don't think that counts. Yeah.

But what do you think uh i mean i do love the shatner verse yeah i know you did it was like that we put him in a new body and he's sexy again i think i mean he was always sexy but sexier sexy again sexier yeah you know yeah just as sexy as he was before that bridge fell on him or whatever happens that's right we gave him a bridge bridge proof force field a bridge could on him or whatever happens. That's right. We gave him a bridge-proof force field. A bridge could never fall on him again. Even if another rider has a bridge fall on him, it's an alternate timeline.

It doesn't count. That's right. Because I haven't read this. It'd probably bounce off him anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if it doesn't bounce off, they're cheating. Yeah. You know?

No take backsies. So these are just kind of all over the place. There's no rhyme or reason or order to this. Good. Good. Why start now? Exactly. So let's talk about The Simpsons because that has 700 plus episodes.

It has gone from 1989 to the modern day. Is that including the Tracy Ullman show? No, I think the first season. That's a great question. Thank you. When was the first season of The Simpsons? Well, I would say that even still counts, right? No.

I'm making my first definitive. It started in December of 89. Okay, great. Because there was a Christmas episode of the dog and whatever. That's a wild episode to start on, isn't it? It feels like the end of something or a Christmas special episode, yeah, to be like Christmas first up. Well, too late now, I guess.

Yeah, that's right. I'd send a letter of complaint, but it's too late. Yeah. Those early episodes are pretty rough. Yeah. I don't know if you've. But a lot of people are saying the new episodes, they're kicking goals. Probably.

Yep. I don't know. I stopped watching in 1998, so I couldn't tell you, Mason. Yeah. But I guess this is, it's going. It's definitively going. Do you know, Mason, you're closer in age to now Homer Simpson than you are to Bart Simpson.

Did you know that? And by that I mean you're older than Homer Simpson. I think I always was. Isn't he canonically 38 or something? Okay, right. Yeah. Wow. You're closer to Abe Simpson.

Oh, man. Than Marge Simpson. Wow. Yeah. And you'll look like him too, Mason. Oh, yeah. No, that's actually fair. So, yeah, I guess the Chucks and Mothers

animated stuff in there. Family Guy started in 99. That also had a cancellation, but all those DVDs, they slithered into college dorm rooms and they came back. That's right. South Park started in 97. That's still going. There's 4,000 episodes of that. Futurama took a big time break.

Yeah. Would you say that's still one thing? Yes, I would. Even though it's paused in. I think the answer to most of these is going to be yes, they are. What was the last Futurama thing? Like 2014 maybe? Maybe.

Who knows? There's no way to look that up. If somebody wants to do that. If you're making that spreadsheet where you're organizing these by the length of the franchise, you could also put that in. But if we're talking longest running, I don't know if that, like, that does count. No, but The Simpsons, oh, my God.

The Simpsons definitely. I mean, sure, there's been at least a decade where everybody in the world said it was bad, but... Yeah. And none of the character models are interesting anymore. No, they're not. Yeah, yeah. There used to be some real freak shows in there.

Yeah. Now they're all just, you know? Wibbly lines. And all the, yeah, yeah, and used to be some real freak shows in there. Yeah. Now they're all just, you know. Wibbly lines. And all the celebrity characters now just look like the celebrity. You know? It's boring. And they'd have weirder celebrity cameos. Like just, I mean now more famously because there was a song in The Last of Us,

but like Linda Ronstadt is in like an early episode just as herself. And it's like as a kid I'm like, I don't know who this is. That's right. It could be made up for the show. Yeah. Yeah, there used to be celebrities would like voice like characters. Yeah, yeah. Who knows anything?

We don't know. We're not qualified. Maybe we should – I will not. There's too much stuff out in the world. I do not have time. Yep. I'm not going back to The Simpsons. How about this?

All you did was make 10 to 15 years of bad stuff and you lost me as a customer. Sorry. Sorry. So here's another one. I have heard some clips from, is it Julie Klausner who plays Marge? Yeah, maybe. Like recently.

Yeah, yeah. That's exactly how she sounds. Yeah. Yeah, like that. Yeah, yeah. And? I mean, good on her for keeping going. Good, because she's exactly how she sounds. Yeah. Yeah, like that. Yeah, yeah. She's, yeah. And? I mean, good on her for keeping going. Good, because she's like 90 years old or whatever.

Yeah, she's 90 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. So Star Wars, Mason. I've heard of it. Well, I know, like, it's never stopped, right? Even though it went, like, the movies have run from 1977 to now. Are we ranking these?

Yeah, we're ranking the movies. Okay, great. No, I mean all the franchises. Yeah. Okay, so far, so far, Simpsons is at number one. I agree. So Star Wars movies ran from 77 to 2019. Okay, so Star Wars is at number one.

Simpsons is at number two now. Okay, great. You're just ranking them in order that I'm saying them? We'll see, won't we? So here's the thing, though. Go on. First of all, in the movies there's huge gaps. There's like a 15-year gap between Return of the Jedi and whatever.

And then there was another gap between the prequels and the sequels. Oh you know what we should do? We should rank these in relation to the Fast franchise. Whether they're longer or shorter.

No better. Overall they're better. Star Wars is better. The Simpsons is? I think the Simpsons is better. Than the Fast movies? Even Fast 5? Yes the good seasons

of the Simpsons are really good. Is Fast 5 better than the monorail episode? It's not about whether Which is the good seasons of The Simpsons are really good. Is Fast Five better than the monorail episode? Which is the Fast Five of The Simpsons? It's not about better. It's about length, viability, strength, Mason. All right. Conviction.

Okay, all right. It's not about better. I've got shows on here that you'd be like, that show sucks. Good. Then we can rank them lower. That's how ranking works. Ranking is in relation to how long it goes for. Longevity Mason.

Oh, okay. All right, cool. All right. Is that? All right. Great. Terrific. I love that.

But it can be whatever. Okay, cool. But also Star Wars. Oh, you know, it should be one set of rankings. But the ranking. We're not even writing it down. It doesn't matter. Somebody is though.

We asked somebody to do it. So we're going to rank them in order, but some of the rankings are going to be via length and some are going to be via quality, but it's going to be the same list. I hate this. I love it. So Star Wars TV, though, started in 1978.

Yes. With the holiday special, they also did the Caravan of Courage movies, and then there was no Star Wars TV. No, there was some animated stuff, though, started in 1978. Yes. With the holiday special. They also did the Caravan of Courage movies. And then there was no Star Wars TV. Oh, there was some animated stuff, whatever. And then they did live action stuff, and that's still going to this day. Big gaps in Star Wars. That's true.

But then it stayed alive through toys and comic books and books and whatever, conventions. Hal Kestis. Yes. I still feel like this is viable even though there were gaps. Oh, is Star Wars viable? Yeah, exactly, because it never stopped. There was never a period where everybody just went, stop making these.

I know people are saying that now, but it still makes money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it does, even though if you're like, well, I don't like it, no one gives a shit. They still make a billion dollars for now. I'm not saying that's forever. What do you think was the – because I do remember that period where there weren't any new movies or whatever coming out,

but then there were the spin-off novels, the stuff that is no longer considered canon. The Tim Zahn books. The Timmy Zahn books. And et cetera. Timmy Zahn. Was that a best – like was that millions and millions of copies being sold? I don't think so.

Or do you think it was just like a, was it a franchise hanging by a thread? I think it kept like the fandom alive. Yeah, right, right. But like they didn't, like they stopped making toys for a time. And then if you look at like probably about 94, maybe 95, they started to ramp it up again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's when it kind of, because they were getting ready

because they were like, we need to push this out on people again to see if we can, these prequels are going to take off. There you go. The fans saved it. The fans did save Star Wars. And that's why I'm putting it at number one on the list. Perfect. For length and how good it is.

Yep. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to quickly mention this. Recently we got a video about Rey Skywalker, old Rey Skywalker, et cetera, that joke and whatever. And they got a few comments that are just like, I'm never going to call her Rey Skywalker.

Okay, man. She's a palpitation. She's not real. Yeah. She's not real. That's right. Who are you defending? Who is this for?

Yeah, like Luke Skywalker's not real. Are you defending him? James, we have to send back a check from Lucasfilm because they said, they told us, you've got to convince that guy to call that character Ray Skywalker. We couldn't do it. We couldn't do it. Oh, my God.

I didn't realise we'd come up against. We've made so much debts, James. We didn't think we'd encounter such a mind. Checkmate, I suppose. He's bested us. Yeah, yet again. So Star Trek, though. So the movies ran from 79 to 26 days,

but the series have run from 1966 to 2023. They're still going. But there's also, like, it was cancelled after three seasons. That's true. There was an animated one. And three was, like, three was touch and go for a long time. Pretty ropey, yeah. And then, yeah, the animated one,

and then they obviously came back with the movies, then Next Gen, then whatever, whatever, et cetera. William Shatner. William Shatner. William Shatner. Captain Kirk fanfic, yes. And then. William Shatner sexy verse.

That's right. And then 2005, it died again with Enterprise. That's true. Enterprise ended and Nemesis killed it around that time. And then it came back in 2009. So it's had some gaps. But I think this is still, like, it's just still long running. But it's interesting because it stopped not because, like,

Star Wars, like, whenever it stops has chosen to stop. Yeah, right. Where Star Trek has been forced into cancellations a couple, or hiatus a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. What long dormant or dead franchise do you think Chris Pine should be forced to resurrect next?

Because he's done Star Trek, he's done Dungeons and Dragons, he did a third one that I can't remember. I think he should go to the Walking Tall franchise. So there was The Rock. There was Kevin Sorbo. It's Chris Pine's turn because big piece of wood. Chris Pine. It's perfect.

That's great. I love that. What do you think? I love that. Yeah. Do you have another idea of a franchise? No. But what if I did?

The Saint. He'd be a good The Saint. They tried that a few. They did, yeah. But do it with Chris Pine. Make him do it. I would love that. Make him do it. I would love that. Make him do it and nobody sees it.

Oh, my God. Nobody sees it. He's really charming, but nobody sees it. I see it on Netflix and I'm like, should I watch that? I'll put it on my list, but I won't. The Saint's actually a really good idea. Yeah, I agree. Because that was Roger Moore and then Val Kilmer.

Yep. And then that one that they tried and that was like, this is a pilot for a new series and it didn't get picked up. So they're like, this is a movie now. It's a movie, actually. It's always been a movie, quite frankly. It's always been a movie, yeah. Do you want to watch it? If you watch it, we'll a pilot for a new series, and it didn't get picked up. So they're like, this is a movie now. It's a movie, actually. It's always been a movie, quite frankly. Do you want to watch it? If you watch it, we'll make it into a series.

I don't want to watch it that much. I don't want anything that much. I'm just going to sit here and stare at the black screen. I'm going to switch this off and stare at it. It's a great idea. I'm going to write that down. You should. Do it.

I'm going to write to Chris Pine. You do it. You do it. He'd make a good The Saint. So you're saying Star Trek doesn't count? Because I think it counts. I'm saying it definitely does count. I just say it got cancelled.

That's all I'm saying. Oh. Well, I'm going to put it at the top. All right. I'm going to put it at the top. Because of length and quality. Now, how about this, Mason? There are 871 episodes of Doctor Who, maybe more or less.

Is that surviving or all together? No, probably not. It ran from 1963 to 1989 and then there was a telemovie that was supposed to launch into a series. I remember that, Paul McGann. Paul McGann, 1996, and then it was resurrected in 2005 and it's running to the modern day. Big gaps, Mason.

Big gaps. But it never went off. Oh, as in off television? Yeah. That's probably true, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. And it survived, I think, as well through in off television. Yeah. That's probably true, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. And it survived, I think, as well through those audio plays. Yeah. Like when I think of

there's a company called Big Finish and I think, you know, when I think of the modern audio dramas, there's obviously there's a Batman one and a Wolverine one and et cetera, but like the bread and butter of that industry I think is Doctor Who radio plays. I think even Eccleston's done some recently. The guy who hates Doctor Who. Yeah, but he loves standing in a booth's done some recently. Yeah, yeah. The guy who hates Doctor Who.

Yeah, but he loves standing in a booth for money. That is true, yeah. That'd be good. I'd do that. Yeah, why wouldn't you? He should resurrect the phone booth franchise. I agree. There's another guy in a booth and he's Scottish now.

The other one was Irish. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. Whoa. I read the, I don't have it here. But apparently the producers behind Phone Booth,

I think one of them might have been Robert Evans. It was too – you know the guy, he's like a famous insane producer. There's a book called The Kid Stays in the Picture. It's all about all his various escapades. He's a lunatic. Anyway, but it was him. I think it might have been even Hitchcock. They had the idea for

phone booths but then they were like we can't do it because we can't think of something that would make a guy stuck in a phone booth for a long time and then it took till like 2002 before somebody was like someone's like these two geniuses in the film industry. And they're just sitting there being like, how can he stop? He can just leave the phone. He can leave any time he wants. Whatever was locked. There's no tension.

He can just leave. What if there's a lock on it? Yeah, but there wouldn't be. Then it would have lost. It's made of glass. You can just kick through it. It was made of glass. Could have been a bomb.

Yeah. Like, it could have been any number of weapons. It could have been a dare. And look, logically, they weren't spending their entire lives thinking about it. Yeah. Like, it could have been any number of weapons. It could have been a dare. And look, logically, they weren't spending their entire lives thinking about it. Well, obviously, yeah. They had other stuff. It sounds like something somebody put in a notebook. Like, what if a guy was in a phone booth and then they just left it?

Yeah. And they found it later and went, I don't know, a sniper or whatever. But I think it's funny if you think of just a bunch of this. Just these people who made iconic movies being like, I just don't know. And don't ask anybody else. Well, they do ask everybody else. They're asking everybody from like the craft services guy to the lighting guys. And they're all like, I don't know, man.

I just do lights. I just do sandwiches. I don't know. Maybe there's oxygen in the phone booth, but there's none outside of the phone booth. What a space phone booth. Get out of here. You're fired. What if he's, I don't know, man. I just, I just, what if he's eating a sandwich? I don't know booth get out of here you're fired uh what if he's i don't know man i just i just what if he's eating a sandwich i don't know get out of here what if he slips and he's

stuck he's stuck like he falls in a weird way he's kind of wedged in there you know when you he says like you sound like some sort of person no no listen listen like oh you have a heart attack in like an airplane bathroom and you fall against the door it's's that. It's a dead man in a phone booth. It's a 90-minute movie. We can't get it open. He's falling against the door. I'm pretty sure he's dead. Wow.

Eventually they just pick it up in a crane and toss it into the river. Anyway, what were we talking about? I've forgotten. Doctor Who. Oh, yeah. Anyway, yeah, at the top. Yeah, of course. In terms of length and quality. Oh, yeah. Anyway, yeah. At the top. Yeah, of course. In terms of length and quality.

Yeah, sure. Also, yeah, I mean, again, Doctor Who is a series I should love, but I just don't. Well, there's a lot of good stuff in there. There's a lot of good stuff. I love the Eccleston season, I think. Sure. And the first Tenet.

Yeah. And everything else, I don't know. So I've got to get, like, Spider-Man, which, like, as a live-action thing was 77 to 2019. But, like, how would you, what about Batman? Because there was Batman serials in the 40s or whatever, and then there was the 60s series, and then there was the 80s movies, and he was in Super Friends and animations.

And it's, like, is that the one, like it's an IP. No. Yeah, it's IP, but it's not like. I think it's an IP, yeah, yeah, yeah. And would you say that's the same for Spider-Man? Yeah, because they're part of a larger universe, I think. Even though Tobin McGuire came back recently. He did come back recently, didn't he?

It was a good movie. Yeah, it was, I think, probably. People don't talk about it. They've never talked about it. I wish somebody would talk about Spider-Man No Way Home. I agree. So we're not putting in Spider-Man or Batman or any of those or Superman or whatever? They're at the bottom of the list, quite frankly.

They failed. They're on the list. Wow. They decided, even though they're not franch in Spider-Man or Batman or any of those or Superman or whatever? No, they go to hell. They're at the bottom of the list, quite frankly. Did you not? They failed. They're on the list. Wow. They decided, even though they're not franchises on their own, put them at the bottom of the list. Okay, bottom of the list. Disappointing, both of you.

Did you know there's 537? That doesn't seem enough episodes of Law & Order Special Victims Unit. It does seem low, doesn't it? In 1999. Yeah. So there you go. Wow. I mean, the Law & Order universe, that's huge.

There was an earlier one, wasn't there? One from like the early months. Yeah, there was regular Law & Order. Regular Law & Order. Let's, the Law and Order universe. That's huge. There was an earlier one. Wasn't there one from the early ones? Yeah, there was regular Law and Order. Regular Law and Order. Let's keep some Law and Order around here. There was regular Law and Order, and then there was Special Victims Unit, and there was that one Vincent D'Onofrio was in.

Victim Crimes something? No, that's Special Victims Unit. Victim Crime Man. Victim Crime Man. He'll tell you whether you're a victim or you're a crime. He'll look you in the eye. That's not what that is, I don't think. He comes in He'll tell you whether you're a victim or you're a crime. He'll look you in the eye. That's not what that is, I don't think. Comes in to the end and he's like, I think you're a murderer. And they go, I'm not!

And he goes, well, I'm magic and you are, so fuck you. Go to jail. Guess I'm going to jail! This guy's good. Yes, I am. I'm going to jail. He went to, he did several improv courses. He can improv people into jail. And then I think Maloney's doing another one.

He is. Organized crime, I think it's called. Organized crime. Is he organizing the crime? He's organizing the crime. Wow. That's right. Oh, do you have the bill on there?

Oh, when did the bill? Well, the bill stopped. Yeah, but then there was some spinoffs from the bill. Was there? Yeah. There was one where a guy. Reg. Yeah, one of the guys from the bill went evil.

You went wrong. It was called Reg Goes Wrong. Reg is from the case files of the bill. That's what it was called. Reg is a public nuisance. He's a flasher. Reg. So it was cancelled in 2010.

Possible revival. I don't know if there are any spin-offs. All right, well, Dan, what am I thinking of then? There was definitely a Reg Goes Wrongs and the Case Files of the Bill. I know there was like in the Bill, there was like people would go wrong within the Bill. Yeah, but I think one of them got a spin-off. All right, let's find out.

Okay. There was a show called Proof of Life. Was that it? Nope. Farewell the Bill. I'm going to do my own research and I'll get back to you next week. That was a two-part storyline, whatever, whatever, whatever. Anyway, the Bill, funny whatever. Anyway, the bill.

Funny stuff. Anyway, the bill's at the bottom. All right. And what about Law & Order? Let's get these crimes underway. And stopped. Yeah, that's a franchise for sure. It's probably number one.

It's probably number one, honestly, in terms of length and quality and Christopher Maloney. And Risca Hargitay, delightful. And Ice-T is in there? Yep. From Ice-T memes alone. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's a question for you though.

Now the Mummy franchise began in 1932 and ended for now in 2017. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we've got the original run which ended in 1955. We've got the Rachel Weisz, Brendan Fraser run which went from 99 to 2008. Are you including the third one there? Yes. Okay. And then, of course, we've got the Scorpion King movies,

which were direct-to-DVD, and then we've got the Tom Cruise revival of the Dark Universe in 2017, which is technically set in the previous version. Let me ask you this, though. Would they keep making these if the concept of the mummy wasn't free? No. Then it's not a franchise. But it's not free anymore because if you've got to make these,

you have to bring somebody back. And by that I mean like the ones people like. Okay, right, right. Like the IP itself is worthless. That's true. Outside of those movies. It's a bargain is what you're saying. And even in that, there's only one really good movie of that type.

The entire run, you know. Let's put it at number two. It's not, you know. Let's put it at number two. It's not a franchise, but let's put it at number two. 1932 to 2017. It's a long time. It's the longest one we've done. It's the longest one we've done. So I think it's below Doctor Who.

Wherever we put Doctor Who, I reckon just below that, I reckon. And it's probably better in quality than Doctor Who. But I want to be clear, it is not a franchise. Due to the length, that's extenuating circumstances. I think we'll put it at number two. All right. I'm going to put it at number two also. Great.

That's terrific. So there's two separate ones now. There's now two separate ranking systems, but currently they are the same. The timelines have not diverged. Okay, terrific. I love this. What about this, Mason?

Okay. There are 15 seasons and 327 episodes of Supernatural. It somehow ran from 2005 to 2020. It was supposed to end after five seasons. Yeah, right. But it kept going forever and ever. How many seasons did you say? It's 12 seasons.

15. 15 seasons. Or 15 years. So it went 10 seasons more than it was supposed to. How many? That is madness. Yeah. But, you know, and it came back as a spin-off with the Winchester.

That is wild. It is 15 seasons. Because I imagine if they had intended to go to five seasons, they would have put every ounce of storytelling, like everything they'd intended to do. Yes. They would have been like, oh, my God, and they're fighting God and the devil and whatever,

and then they were like, now we can finally retire from demon hunting because we killed God and the devil or whatever. Yeah. And then they're like, there's a bigger God and a bigger devil actually. He's on a ladder. He's much taller. They live in Canada. Well, yeah, so if you watch Wonderfire, which I have,

it's got a really great ending. Yeah. And then I watched to maybe seven. Okay. But I never disliked it. Right. Like I don't think the stuff after is as strong. And, you know, apparently it like ebbs and flows afterwards.

Right, right. But I accept at this point that I'm never going to watch it. Yes. And it's a shame. Does that affect your ranking of it, do you think, as a franchise? You're saying should I move it from number one, which is where I'm placing it? Yes, exactly.

No, it's going to be number one for me. What about you? Both length and quality. I mean, that's 15 is long. That's not as long as Doctor it. Yes, exactly. No, it's going to be number one for me. What about you? Both length and quality. I mean, that's 15 is long. That's not as long as Doctor Who. Or The Mummy. That's true. But based on what I've seen of Supernatural,

which is the first episode, I would say it's probably a more consistent quality than Doctor Who. Okay. So I'm probably going to put it at number one. All right. Number one it is. So there's still two. The ranking is still the same.

It's exactly the same for now. Now, you told me to put this in. Whatever. If you'd asked me to name, I wouldn't be able to list them. You don't need to because someone's making a list. Last of the Summer Wine. That's right. Because one time.

What is this? One time we put it. Because we've probably done this episode before. One time we were talking about franchises and somebody on Twitter was like, you've forgotten about Last of the Summer Wine. That's the longest. No, it's not. It ran from 1973 to 2010.

Well, sounds like I got bad info. Yeah. Yeah. This guy's wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's at number one though because that's actually quite a long time. Okay, well, I'm going to put it because I got bad info and I'm sore about that. I'm going to put it because I got bad info and I'm sore about that.

I'm going to put it at the bottom but not the bottom because obviously Spider-Man and Batman are at the bottom because this is a frown. I'm going to put it third from the bottom. All right, well, I'm going to do the thing you did. Okay. You somehow persuaded me. That never happens.

That was a really compelling argument. I think so too. So what about this? Okay. There's 27 movies in the James Bond franchise maybe. That's true. It's been running from 1962 to 2021, which is the last one, but it's still going.

Yeah. There are pauses in between eras and sometimes movies. For example, there was about- Sometimes nothing will pause them, not even a writer's strike. That's right. They'll just keep on making them. So between Spectre and No Time to Die, it was nearly six years. That's true.

But that I would say like that's the same franchise. It's the same Bond. It's the same universe of that one. The longest gap there has ever been was six years between Licence to Kill and Goldeneye. And that was like there was probably a rights thing and they didn't know who was going to be Bond and whatever. And then it went from Dalton to Brosnan.

This has been going since 1962. I think they probably spent that six years going, how can we make Brosnan's like the perfect debut? And then they were like, well, he bungees off the side of a dam and then he appears in a toilet. They figured it out. Yeah, that's right. It's the only way we can get him into a phone booth.

I've got that in my notes. How do we keep him in a phone booth? How do you get a minute of him? Bond, Bond, Bond, Bond. I think this is even when it's bad, which it is every two or three movies, people always like it. It always comes back strong. There's always interest in it.

Sounds like it's Anglican spot number one. Sure. I mean, if it's paused, it's usually through no fault of its own or because they're just rearranging it to make it into something else. All these other franchises, when there's a pause, it's their fault. Yeah. It usually always comes back strong. There are some exceptions like the Lazenby one and whatever,

but it normally comes back. But I've come around on the Lazenby one. Yeah, but, I mean, time I'm saying people were like, no, thank you. It's very true. That's the number one. That's the number one, I think. Length and quality.

1962. Long time. That's true. What about this one? The Tonight Show. This doesn't sound right. It's got 1,873 episodes. Is that right?

Yeah, five days a week. I guess, but it started in 1954. Oh. I don't know. Is that too few now? Yeah, that's. I guess. But it started in 1954. Oh. I don't know. Is that too few now? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe they're not. Maybe The Tonight Show isn't five days a week.

Maybe it is. I don't know. I don't watch it. Who hosts it even? Is it Fallon? Is that Fallon's one? The Tonight Show with? I think it is Fallon.

Okay. Okay. But does that count as like you you know, you get a celebrity out and you go, what kind of hat you're wearing or whatever the fuck happens. It's an NFT hat. I've heard you've got a story to tell about a fucking boring thing you did. I do. I'm boring.

I'm inherently very boring, actually. But people have decided that I want a celebrity now, so I'm here. I'm in a bunch of movies until people realise I'm boring and stop coming to my movies. Here's an anecdote. Here's an anecdote I made up that we prepared before the show. We practised this.

Yeah, yeah. I don't think this counts. No, no. I mean, compared to everything else we've talked about. No, because then, like, does this count, podcasts? Yeah. It's only ten years of this. Yeah.

We're at number one. Yeah, good. We should wrap it up there, but we won't. Let's see where we end up because currently we're at number one. Sure. But I feel like, you know, we could be knocked from the top spot. Absolutely. By a bold competitor.

Now, the length of this isn't necessarily that impressive. That's what she said, Mason. Ha-ha! But, my goodness, there's a lot of them. Okay. Very girthy? Yep, sure. Yeah.

The MCU's run from 2008 to the modern day. There's 32 movies. That's excluding television shows and whatever, whatever, et cetera. 32 movies in 15 years is a bit of a lot. That's an insane amount of output, isn't it? Yeah. And that's not even everything. That's true.

That's some of it. So, you know. Yeah. I think that's a fine contender for number two. Yep, you might be right under that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. Very good.

Because we've been doing this for nearly 10 years. Great. Yeah. We've probably got, yeah, we've got more episodes than we've got movies. So fine. How about this one? In the Godzilla franchise, there's 38 films, 33 of them are Japanese.

There's a Godzilla Japanese franchise that's run from 1955 to 2021. And then there's various spin-offs and whatever. The biggest gap was 12 years, and that was between 2004 and 2016. Uh-hmm, mm-hmm. And then there's various spin-offs and whatever. The biggest gap was 12 years and that was between 2004 and 2016. Uh-huh, uh-huh. But there were Godzilla things in there, right? I know there was like. Well, in between those years there was Godzilla 1998. Between 2004 and 2017.

That's true. I forgot about that. Yeah, that's Godzilla 98. Yeah, yeah. But there was other versions, right, and incarnations. Sure. I don't know the specifics. But like Godzilla's never gone away. That's true. I forgot about that. Yeah, that's Godzilla 98. Yeah, yeah. But there was other versions, right, and incarnations. Sure. I don't know the specifics. But like Godzilla's never gone away.

That's true. It's not in 55, but it's not the one continuity outside of like the mainline Japanese ones, right? Like the American ones they've made, there's the 98 one. We've hit, this is the moment in the episode where everybody who's a huge fan of Godzilla is going to be like, what are they going to say? what are they going to say? What are they going to say?

Well, I'm saying there's different versions. There's like the original, then there's like the American one, it's like the 98 one, and then that stopped immediately. And then now there's a new batch of Godzilla movies. That's true. And there's the new American Godzilla movies and there's new Japanese Godzilla movies and there's Shin Godzilla who's a different Godzilla and so on and so forth.

Yeah. But, I mean, you've got to give them credit for persevering, I reckon. I agree. Trying their little hearts out, putting on their foamy suits, you know, running around a cardboard city. Yeah. You know? Knocking it down.

In Godzilla versus Kong. I think that dog's getting in. Hang on. Anyway, I reckon we put it at number two. All right. So I reckon it's our podcast, the Godzillaverse, the MCU. Perfect. Oli, what you doing?

She's made it in here. She escaped you. Dog's up, everyone. I let her in. Oh, yeah. No, it seems to me that you're making the best of a bad situation. She escaped your clutches and now she's leaving. Okay, bye, Oli.

Oh, that was embarrassing for me. Scooby-Doo started in 1969. Number one, move on. What's the continuity of Scooby-Doo? I don't know. Yeah. But I love that it's dog time, though. Yeah.

And you've got to give them credit for dog time. That's true. Got a few more left here. Okay. These are the big ones, Mason. There's 4,000 plus episodes of Sesame Street that started in 1969. Okay, but they're all set in a separate continuity. Okay.

I don't know if you're aware. I don't know how many episodes. I've got that note here, so I agree with you. This one, Play School, Australian TV show, Play School, kids' hit show has 4,500 episodes started in 1966. Well, actually, each one of those episodes is set in the same continuity as the comparable Sesame Street episode. Okay.

So they've all paired up, but there's 500 more episodes of Play School. Yeah. That's set in the same continuity as the comparable Sesame Street episode. Okay. So they've all paired up, but there's 500 more episodes of PlaySchool. Yeah. That's set in the MonsterVerse. Okay. They're all set in the present-day Godzilla MonsterVerse. Doesn't that bump up the MonsterVerse then? Yeah, I guess it does. Like 500?

Yeah. Yeah. But the quality's not great. They're great. Yeah. They're always like, oh, I've made a paper plate do a hat. And there's Godzilla's fighting Mothra in the background or whatever. You can barely see it. You can barely see it.

You can barely see it through the round window or the square window. Sure. Now, in terms of output, the number one is probably Coronation Street. Okay. Bit of Koi. I've written near 100,000 episodes, but that cannot be right. It would have to be 10,000. I'll check that again.

It started in 1960. Okay. And it's still going. Wow. So that's pretty wild. There's 60 seasons and they say there's 10,951 episodes as of May. That is the rare exception to the British rule of like... Cancel anything?

No, well, yeah, or like, you know, there's 20 seasons and there are two episodes each or whatever. Absolutely right. Here's some other ones that, like, Lassie has 591 episodes. ER has 331 episodes. Law and Order is mentioned as 487 episodes. Gunsmoke has 635 episodes. There's other ones who have about that many.

Okay, so I think we've got to give it to Coronation Street because of the 10,000 episodes. So it's Coronation Street, Scooby-Doo, our podcast, Godzilla. Yep. Godzilla slash the PlaySchool universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then the MCU. Yep. And then random whatever else. Batman at the bottom. Batman at the bottom. Yeah. Yep. Godzilla slash the PlaySchool universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then the MCU. Yep.

And then random whatever else. Batman at the bottom. Batman at the bottom. Yeah. Exactly. Where he deserves to be. Yep. He's just below the movie phone booth.

Yes. Perfect. What an absolute failure of a franchise phone booth. I agree. You can get another guy in another booth? Ridiculous. Insane. Yeah.

Think harder. Try and think of a different reason for someone to be in a booth, though. Maybe he's making a phone call. What? For 90 minutes, Mason? Yeah. Yeah, he might. It's a sex line.

Oh, yeah. That's too long. Mason, let's move it along. Okay. What's the segment called? It's called What We Reading. What We Gonna Read. What We Gonna Read.

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go what it's not true isn't it i don't think so i think this is the part of the show where we talk about what we've been reading or watching what or what we're going to be all right you did get me you did that you did incorporate that so seamlessly. Yeah, as I always do. That's true. The moment where you pretend to be a little bit deaf or not paying attention, and I think that's wonderful. What have you been reading or doing? Well, I got started on it.

Oh, my God, you bought bags. Don't tell time because I read some of this. Oh, he's just doing cocaine again. Mason, come on. It's what I've been reading, man. I've been reading all these lines. Just kidding. We don't recommend cocaine on the Weekly Planet podcast.

We don't endorse it. Nope. Don't do it. It's too expensive anyway. Exactly. But tell you what, it's not expensive. Something that I read a few issues of, but I didn't finish it, but I found the trade paperback, so I thought I'd give it another go.

And speaking of Superman legacy and so forth, it's Jimmy Olsen. Superman's pal Jimmy Olsen. What year is this? This is a couple of years ago. Matt Fraction, who wrote, of course, the Hawkeye series My Life as a Weapon, which we all enjoy, and we've talked about it on the Book Club.

Should we rate this? Do it on Book Club? We could do it. We could rate it. This looks sick, man. But it's Superman's constant sidekick over a million trillion years. It's very funny. Just getting into all sorts of weird scrapes

and shenanigans. Oh, he's getting into all weird monsters. Yeah, he's getting into all sorts of stuff, this guy. That's cool, man. It's a real kind of showcase for like, why has this character been around for so long? And there's some like peanut style. Yeah, there's a lot of fun artwork. It's just you read All-Star Superman? Yes. You. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of like fun, a lot of fun artwork.

It's just, did you, you read All-Star Superman? Yes. You know how in that it's a little bit more, the whole thing's a bit kind of. Or shucks, that kind of thing. Yeah, it's a little bit or shucks, but it's also a bit like it's sort of this utopian world. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. But in that Jimmy Olsen is sort of like this weird gonzo journalist

who's like, this week I'm becoming a race car driver or whatever. It's kind of that, but it's like very self-aware and kind of silly. And it's just him. How much Superman is there in it? Almost no Superman from what I remember. What? I wouldn't even read that then. There's some Lois Lane, some Turtle Boy.

There's a little bit of Superman. There's also Superman. Anyway, I was going to say maybe we should do it for the Comic Book Club. But our Comic Book Club has been very DC heavy recently. Have you noticed? I wonder if it's because DC are more willing to go, okay, here's six issues or 12 issues and we're writing for trade paperback. Whereas Marvel, we are writing for 10 trade paperbacks.

Yeah. Like I got started on, there's an X-Men series called House of X, Powers of X, and there's just so much of it. Right, okay. I'm like, man. Did you see Frank Miller? He's doing a new Wolverine thing, right? Did you see the-

Yeah, I did see it. Yeah. Is he okay? I don't know with Frank Miller. Yeah. I don't know with Frank Miller. Yeah. I don't know with that guy. Anyway. He's doing Ghost Rider Wolverine, Weapons of Vengeance.

And it's a very odd perspective on this. It's really weird. Yeah, I- I'm just looking at it right now. I saw a tweet that was like, hey, maybe he should just be one of those guys who's like, he's got a team of artists and he's just like, draw a Wolverine. These are my ideas. And they draw a Wolverine. Do it in the style. And they're like, good job. Yeah. of artists and he's just like, draw a Wolverine. These are my ideas. And they draw a Wolverine.

Do it in the style. And they're like, good job. Yeah. You know? Good luck to him. I think good luck to him also. I watched The Rise of Skywalker with my son because that's where we're up to. Oh, okay.

So he's seen four, five, and six? Yep. And now the sequel trilogy. But not the prequels yet. No, we're going to do that next. Interesting. What did he think of Rise of Skywalker? He liked it.

Interesting. He had questions. He's like, why is the Emperor back? And I'm like, well, it's a clone. And he's like, but why? And I'm like, no, it's not in the movie. And he had a bunch of other, he's like, when did, when did, sounds like a smart kid. He goes,

when did, where did Maz Kanata get Luke Skywalker's lightsaber from? And I'm like, well, nobody knows. Nobody knows. So there's a lot of stuff like that. It's called a mystery box, young man. It's weird because I didn't prompt any of these things.

He's like seven, but he's asking very obvious questions. It's almost like they should have had a seven-year-old in the room to ask questions. They should have had a script read and the kid could have been like, okay, what about, hang on, what if a bit of metal chipped off the knife? Yeah. They would have said. Yeah, exactly. They wouldn't be able to find the thing in the Death Star.

What if the Death Star fell slightly differently? Yeah, so, I mean, I don't like it, obviously. Sure. But Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley are really good in it. There's some good action stuff in it, I guess. And it was good to showcase. I don't even mind the Emperor's back, I guess. It was good to showcase the really powerful dynamic

between the Knights of Ren, you know what I mean? Yeah, finally. We finally got them just really. People dying and then coming back immediately just as well. Like Chewie dies and comes back. C-3PO gets his mind wiped and comes back. That's right. Rey,

Kylo Ren dies and gets stabbed through the chest or whatever and then Rey heals him and then Rey dies and comes back but then Kylo Ren

dies at the end. It's just a really good movie. It's good stuff I think. I didn't know like the voices of the Jedi. It's like, you know,

it's like Qui-Gon is like, Rey, I'm Liam Neeson and my son's like, I don't know who Liam Neeson is. And I'm like, well, you should have watched the prequel trilogy. Yeah, you should have watched Taken. You should have watched Taken.

Anyway, but what I also watch is Tenacious Day have a new song. It's called Video Games. Okay. It's a really fun little animation. I wish the song was longer. The song is probably like maybe a minute ten long. It's just about how much he doesn't play video games except for all the amazing video games he plays. Anyway, it's got like four million views.

Anyway, whatever. So check it out if you like Tenacious D. I do like Tenacious D. Good, Mason. It's time for Letters. Time for Letters. Ah! The classic one was Letters, oh, Letters.

We love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. We are going to do letters. We are because this is the segment of the show where we go, what letters have you sent us? And you can send letters.

You can hashtag. You're adding some sort of weird thing to all these segments. I don't like it. You're trying to push some sort of agenda. It's an ever-evolving show, Mason. You can't be stagnant. Have you made a bet with your wife that you'll say what during all the segments?

Maybe I won't figure it out and I'll look quite the fool and you'll make fun of me on your less popular podcast suggestible? Yeah. That's cool, man. You think it's cool? Well played, sir. That's epic bacon. I like the way you figured it out immediately.

Yeah, I'll figure these things out. Hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Do we have one there? I've got one. Some Gareth Jones who says, hashtag weeklyplanetpod, pod, pod, pod. Loving never go back. I can't believe he said that.

I can't believe he said weeklyplanetpod. What an idiot. But never go back. We're doing video game let's playsays at BigSandwich.co. So he said, loving that Never Go Back is, well, you know, apologies if this is ubiquitous, but can we please have James versus Mason on Mario Kart battle mode? I so want to hear Mason's victory cackle when deploying

the heinous red shell. Guess what? I don't understand one of those things, man. You're not a Mario Kart guy. It would be me obliterating Mason at Mario Kart, which we can do. I guess. I would love to obliterate you at Mario Kart. We'll do that for money.

I don't even care, but I'll be like, I don't even care. I'll keep saying that. I don't even care. I'm not even winning, are you? I don't even practice. I'll put my controller down. I don't even care. Look, I'm playing upside down.

I'm not even looking at the screen. I'm going to let you pick the version of Mario Kart if we do it. You pick one. Okay. Yeah. You can't say Wacky Wheels because that's not Mario Kart. I don't even know what that is. You can't say it.

Wow. Sensible wheels. I would like to do Mario Kart 64, but there are others. Is that the good one? There's a bunch of good ones. They're all pretty good. We've opened a real can of worms between the Maryland and Virginia. Maryland?

Maryland and Virginia. Great. Oh, sorry. Thank you, Gareth, for signing up and enjoying it and saying kind things. We appreciate that. Yes. Yeah, so how many emails have we got?

There's a few here. This is from Max. Max? This one says Maryland versus Virginian drivers. Hey there, fellas. The driving debate has inspired me to write in about the different Northeast American driving habits. So not even just North American,

but specifically Northeast American. That's good data because now I know where these places are, which vary wildly. After being a lifelong New Yorker, then moving to Virginia, I can confirm that the drivers are two different breeds. The reality is that New York drivers are very competent, but are assholes behind the wheel, which leads to road rage.

In Virginia, the drivers are quite pleasant, but they all drive like old ladies. Oh, my God. Driving out or below the speed limit, don't use turn signals, slam on brakes at yellow lights when moving at significant speeds. With that being said, do you think New Yorkers or Virginians are better drivers? Well, I mean, like you mentioned, there's two different skill sets,

isn't there? There is, yeah. Yeah, I think also, I don't know, I mean, because the New York driving I'd imagine would be different because you're not going at speed really. Yeah, yeah. It's very stop-start. It's inner city driving a lot of the time.

And yet Stephen has written in, long-time listener, first-time writer. They're all coming out of the woodwork. Just wanted to throw my hat into the debate between Virginia and Maryland drivers. I've lived in northern Virginia my entire life and can confidently say Maryland drivers are by far the worst. Virginia drivers are aggressive, but Maryland drivers are downright terrifying.

They don't know how to drive, and I often fear for my life while crossing the state borders. Any day you have to drive into Maryland is a bad day. Oh, my God. The only good thing they have there are blue crabs, but that doesn't excuse their lack of common sense behind the wheel. Anyway, I love everything you do. I've been a fan of you guys for years now.

A concerned Virginia driver, Stephen. I'm loving this. I'm loving this. What do you reckon? I've just lost track, Mason. Me too. I don't know who's who anymore. I've stopped.

I've never paid attention, honestly, but I'm liking this. I'm liking this battle that's recurring. The restart of it. I mean, it sounds like it was already there. That's true. Yeah. But I like the idea that we're bringing this to a wider audience. Yeah.

Because it seems like this has been some sort of cold war. Yeah. Secret war, if you will. Maybe some kind of real-life Mario Kart situation would solve this. One of us could be Virginia and one of us could be Mary. No, no, no. They do it. Oh, they could do it.

They just go into a big arena. They select a champion or two. No, no, all of them. They would do it. it. They just go into a big arena. They select a champion or two. No, no, all of them. They would do it. Okay, terrific. I love that. A big roller rink. They barrel around throwing things at each other's cars.

God, I don't even know anymore. It sounds like, you know what? They sound a bit, I'm going to please nobody. They seem like they've both got problems. James, there's one more email. It says, I mean, we have non-Maryland versus Virginia emails, but I'll do this one first. This is from Caleb.

Settling the Maryland versus Virginia debate once and for all. Oh, we'll see about that. Yeah, we'll see about that. Hello, I'm from Maryland, but I actually lived in Virginia for the last two years, so I think I can settle this definitively. Drivers from both states suck. That's what I said. To be fair, I think most people are bad drivers, he says.

However, I will say that Maryland has a much better state flag. People will tell you it's ugly and they would be correct, but that's what we love about it. Virginia's flag sucks and is boring. The Maryland flag sucks, but in a cool, fun, quirky way. Hang on. I'm bringing this up. Maryland flag.

Yep, and Virginia flag, which sucks and is boring, apparently. What I like about this, James, is we're opening up more wounds and we're pouring salt on them. I mean, who even, like, I don't know any of the flags in, like, Victoria. Like, I couldn't even tell you. Yeah, yeah. God, this is weird.

Which one is this? Maryland. Maryland. Well, Maryland, we don't know what we're saying is wrong. So this is Virginia. Okay. Oh, it's got don't know what we're saying is wrong. So this is Virginia. Okay. It's got a wizard? Is that a wizard?

It's a wizard stepping on a person. It's an enrobed wizard stepping on another person. Holding a breadstick? Holding a breadstick. Because Marylanders love their bread. And there's a boob out. Yeah, right. That's cool.

Okay, is it a wizard or a hermit? Is this the good one or the bad one? Which one is that? That's the flag of Virginia. Okay. The flag of Virginia is it sucks and it's boring, according to Caleb. It's got a boo-bow. And it's a wizard or something or a hermit.

Or is it this one? Maybe one's a parody or something. I don't know. No, I think this is the real one. That's a wizard, all right. That's weird. It's like a little train conductor hat. It's got a spear. That's rad wizard, alright. That's weird. It's like a little train conductor hat.

Got a spear. That's rad. Anyway, that's one of them. That's Virginia, which sucks. This is Maryland. Oh, Maryland's is like a test patent.

It's like a test patent on a TV or something. Those could not be more different. What's like a medieval... You can't even compare these. What's a medieval woodcut and one's like what you'd see

when your visor reboots in Cyberpunk. How are you supposed to compare these? I don't know. They're completely different. That's madness. Well, I'm glad we learned. That's something we've learned. I think it's wonderful.

I mean, I like the idea that everyone sucks. Yeah. Like that I like. Flag situation is wild. It's so weird. All our flags are boring. It's like Union Jack, different colour flag. And a wattle.

There's a wattle on them sometimes. I don't give a fuck. Wow. That's what I mean. Are you disrespecting our wattle? Yeah, I am. Wow. Wattle they think of next, mate.

Okay, well, you should find a tweet, and then I'll try and find an email that isn't about this can of worms that we are actively encouraging. It's from Aiden. Oh, yeah. He says, hashtag Wicked Planet Pod, I think part of the reason the MCU multiverse doesn't seem to be resonating with people is it's too self-contained.

No Way Home shows using existing universes work. Professor X died, but Professor X died so quick. Who knows if he was from the Foxverse? I'm assuming he wasn't. That's not the Foxverse Professor X died so quick. Who knows if he was from the Foxverse. I'm assuming he wasn't. That's not the Foxverse Professor X. Oh, is he not the animated Professor X? That's what I mean. He's not the live action Professor X.

Or the same one, I don't think. I think the floaty chair would suggest he is not. Yeah, but I also don't think he's the animated one because he's real. He's a real man. Oh, he's a real man. But I don't know. is the animated one because he's real. He's a real man.

Oh, he's a real man. But I don't know. Spider-Verse 2 seems to reference the MCU directly while being self-contained which sells the scale of the multiverse and makes it feel real without being over-reliant on nostalgia. The scale isn't right in the MCU. It just feels like time travel again. That is interesting. What do you think about that?

Like it's too, I don't disagree with like it's like big and broad and what is it? Where? Who's? too, I don't disagree with like, it's like big and broad and what is it? Where, who's? Yeah, I think the. Like anyone can die and then they're there again. Yeah, I think, you know, for a long time in the, people would know in the DC universe there was an infinite number of universe.

Well, initially there was one and there was two and like, let's go to four. Let's do 10. Let's do whatever. And then eventually like there's an infinite number and that's too unwieldy and then they got rid of them and then they've gone with varying numbers of universes and I think at one point there was 52 alternate universes

which seems like a manageable number Yeah, but they didn't get there Didn't they end up not doing it? Oh no, 52 was new 52 Yes, but there were 52 alternate universes, which I think it's a manageable number. It's like Rick and Morty where, like, if there's an infinite number of parallel universes,

nothing means anything anymore because if your friend dies – like, if the love of your life dies, you just go to a universe where they're still alive, but you died. Yeah. And then you just take the spot. Yeah. And it's weird, but it's also like there's no consequences anymore or whatever, you know what I mean?

Exactly. Yeah. So, yeah, no, I think they, I think, again, we don't really know what it's going to be, I think, but that's not like a strength. That's not me going like, oh, you know, we'll just have to see. It's interesting because I was speaking to some family members today like my brother the one you don't like oh yeah you would be talking to him they were teenagers they're like hi we're cool teenagers

no they're small children as far as no they're like hi we're cool teenagers and then they hit me with a skateboard whoa yeah together together like a clothesline situation yeah it was like ah good prank i said nice and then we all they high-fived. Yeah, right. I lay down. But you've got to lay down anyway. I was going to lay down, yeah. But they were like, yeah, I haven't seen Guardians 3, and I don't know what else I'm going to see next. And I think that's a lot of people, and I'm not talking about people who are invested in this,

just normal people who are just like, I don't care, who cares. Yeah. And I think because I looked at the stats on Avatar 2. I think I screenshotted this. And 50% of the- Ah, police. This guy's screenshotting. It's illegal now.

Did I get it? I didn't get it. Oh, no, I did. So Avatar 2, 50% of the audience of that movie is infrequent moviegoers. Yeah, right. And that's what I think people are going for. And I think a lot of the Marvel stuff was that. Especially the big event stuff.

But I don't know whether that's happening or going to happen in the same way it has before. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I don't know. I wonder, Superman legacy, will that draw in casual viewers? Yeah. Because on the one hand, some people are like, oh, Superman, he's not interesting because he can do whatever, which isn't true. Yeah. Because on the one hand some people are like, oh Superman he's not interesting because he can do whatever. Which isn't true.

Yeah. But it's also a name that everybody recognises and if they get enough hype behind it and if they get enough good word of mouth behind it and they do a big marketing push, maybe that's the one. If they leak the post-credits. Oh Superman's in this. He showed up in a post-credits

sequence. Sorry, I forgot my coat. Yes. To be clear, I am the same guy from earlier. This isn't a multiverse thing. It will never be a multiverse thing. My coat's here. I think there's definitely like there's always heat behind Superman

because if you look at – I know Man of Steel didn't do super well, but that was also kind of divisive. People were like, this is kind of sad. And then if you look at Batman v Superman, huge opening weekend, then massive drop off. And I know people are like, oh, I loved it and whatever. Yeah, I know. I don't want to get into it.

But, like, my point is, like, those weren't universally appealing Superman movies. Yeah. And I think this one could be. There's a chance to do that. Yeah. You know what I mean? And even if it is just. And that doesn't mean broad. Yeah. And I think this one could be. There's a chance to do that. Yeah. You know what I mean? And even if it is just.

And that doesn't mean broad. Yeah. And speaking of Avatar, a lot of people are like, oh, that's pretty basic, that movie. But there's an art to just a perfectly pitched, the same with Maverick, a perfectly pitched. Dad's. Dad's movie, but perfectly pitched, you know,

getting the basics right. Yeah. You know, it's like a bloody, my first thought was like a really good chicken parmigiana. Oh, yeah. It's like if you can get the basics right. Yeah. You know, it's like a bloody, my first thought was like a really good chicken parmigiana. Oh, yeah. It's like if you can get the basics right. You know what you're getting. You know what you're getting. And it's like, okay, and you've done it really well.

It's a good version of that. It's a good version of that. Superman Legacy will be the world's best chicken parmigiana. And you can take that to the bank and put it on the poster as far as I'm concerned. The poster of the bank. No, the poster of Superman Legacy that I'm putting in the bank. You sneaking in? No, because you're going to be there yelling it from earlier

and I'll just walk in while you're doing that. You shouldn't get paid because I don't like banks. Exactly, that's right. You're right, I forgot. That was the thing I did earlier. Here's one more email. This is from Noah. Why are you putting up a poster though? I can't remember. It's been literally seconds. I don't remember anymore.

Noah says, hello James and May. So this is Noah all the way from the great state of Florida, a place that is never in the news and is very reserved from any kind of controversy. Oh, Noah, I actually think it is in the news quite a lot and there's often controversies. Can you write this back please? Okay, I'll just do this right. Hang on, I'll just auto-respond. Thanks, I'll check it out.

Are there any other states that are like Florida man? Like if you said to say Florida man, people know what you're talking about, just a man who's lost his mind. New York minute? A hot New York minute? A hot New York minute, that is very true actually, yeah. A Washington wizard? A Washington wizard.

Yeah. Like on that Virginia thing. Exactly, that was a wizard. That was a Washington wizard. A Washington wizard. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, with it of course being the home of Disney World, I figured this would be a fitting topic.

In the last couple of days, the YouTube channel Defunctland uploaded a video going through a brief history of Australia's own Dream World and the Big Red Car Ride that came with it. I was wondering if either of you had any first-hand experiences with Dream World and or the Big Red Car Ride, if you sometimes wish it was you touring the world and singing songs about fruit salad instead of the Wiggles. I have not been on the Big Red Car Ride because it opened in 2015

and closed in 2020. So my experience with Dreamworld was in like the 90s. Oh, yeah. So I haven't been back. I also wasn't there the year that the ride flipped over and decapitated a bunch of people, including children, which happened a few years back. But, no, I'm familiar familiar with dream world it's like

you know it's just a bunch of rides there was a superman ride which is basically a ride where it goes fast and then straight up and then down or whatever are you familiar with dream well i've never been there's a log ride i've never been to any of the parks on the three park super fast well that's not on the three park super fast because the three parks well then i've never been to dream world and the three parks on the three parks what about the four parks that i've never been thanks for bringing it up hollywood on the gold-park superpass. That's four parks that I've never been to. Water Brothers Movie World. Thanks for bringing it up. Hollywood on the Gold Coast. I'm listening.

That's one place. Yep. Then there's SeaWorld and then there's Wet and Wild. Wet and Wild. And that's all the one industrial complex. That's the three-park superpass. And then there's Dreamworld, which is separate. I've been to Time Zone. Time Zone's different again.

That is a arcade center. Yeah. It's a franchise arcade center, which is very relevant. Is it sort of back or is it? I don't know. I'm putting that on the top. Putting it on the top of our list. But no, I'm not familiar with the Big Red Car Ride.

No. Is that a Wiggles thing? Yeah, it's a Wiggles thing. I just looked it up now. Yeah. Love that. But no. So Dreamworld.

You're going to check it out. I actually had a chance to go there a few years ago. I was in Queensland for like the weekend. Yeah, yeah. And as a kid, I'm like, oh, man, I loved it. It was my favorite. I met Batman. Remember recently there was a photo of me and my brothers with Batman? That was then. That's when I went. We did the four parks. Yeah, yeah, man, I loved it. It was my favourite. I met Batman. Remember recently there was a photo of me and my brothers with Batman?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was then. That's when I went. We did the four parks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought he was going to be there as well. I couldn't believe it. It's not even his scene.

He's more fighting crime in Gotham City. That's what I thought. He's the other side of the world. It's wild because I don't think he's been back since. That was the one time he was there and I happened to be there on the same day. But, yeah, so I had an opportunity to go a few years ago and they're like, let's go to the parks. And I'm like, I don't know.

I don't want to. Yeah, I'm not really a ride a few years ago, and they're like, let's go to the parks. And I'm like, I don't know. I don't want to. Yeah, I'm not really a ride guy. I'm a snack guy. I don't like spinny rides. I'll do anything else. Anything that spins? No, not at all. I'm a water slide guy.

Oh, yeah, that's not bad. I'm a snack guy. I'll do anything. Yeah, we know. The problem with being a snack guy is you're like, I'm going to have so many snacks today. I'm going to every stand have a snack, and then you're like two snacks in, and you're like, oh, I'm so full.

I've filled up on snacks. Yeah, there's no more room for snacks. I'm dying. You know? I'm dying. Mum, come pick me up. Bring snacks. I'll get you another snack.

Not like celery sticks, like popcorn and like fairy floss or whatever. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That's great. Anything else? I'll go anywhere where they have the machine that makes the fairy floss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because nowadays they put it in a bag.

They do, don't they? I like that. You don't like it on the stick? I want a fresh one. Oh, really? Yeah, of course. No, it can be fresh in the bag, can't it? No, very rarely.

That's a good point, actually. Well, I love everything. That's what we call cotton candy, folks. Yeah, fairy floss. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because do fairies use it to floss? Probably. But it would break.

We'll ask the wizard. We'll ask the wizard on the side. The wizard who's stepping on that other person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a dominatrix thing. What is this? I don't know. It seems the very opposite of don't tread on me.

I think I like the person stepping on another person in a wizard costume coat better, flag better. I like the other one. We've solved nothing today, have we? Well, that's what we want to do, but we don't want to solve anything. Oh, yeah. Like those bloody politicians, am I right? That's exactly right.

We want to stoke those fires, get more Virginian and Maryland listeners, and then we pivot to being exclusively whoever the winners are would be a podcast about them. And then money? I don't think so. And then money? Oh, yes. All right.

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You were editing it early. I was. I'm having fun, you said. Yeah. And you haven't said that in years, honestly. I've never said it. I didn't say it then. You misheard. Big thank you to also. You said I'm having fun, you said. Yeah. And you haven't said that in years, honestly. I've never said it. I didn't say it then. You misheard.

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That's right. Editing for Claire, including like Taunton's Suggestible and all these other things going on. That's right. Yes, yes, yes. Next week. Fast X. Wait.

I don't know. It sounded weird. But that's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Also, T-shirts at tpublic.com. T-tublic.

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I'm excited. Are you excited? No. Not only for big spoilers? No, I mean, we've just been watching a bunch of them. We just watched four for Caravan of Garbage and then I played the entirety of Fast and Furious Crossroads. That would kill your enthusiasm.

And now I'm editing Fast and Furious Crossroads. See, I'm jazzed because I didn't have to play Fast and Furious Crossroads. So, no, I'm not jazzed to see this movie that I know I'm going to have to revisit in five years for Caravan of Garbage. You know, you can cleanse your palate if you sniff some coffee beans, I think. Yeah? That'll cleanse your palate of Fast and Furious Crossroads. You might be right.

It says it on the box. Did you read that? It's like after you play this, you're going to have a bad. You're not going to. Yeah. Just give it a bit of a sniff. Yeah, and then you'll be all right. Yeah, you'll be fine. Cool, cool, cool. All right, thanks, everyone. Grabbed our jam, you guys. We'll bad you're not gonna yeah just give it a bit of a sniff yeah and then you'll be all right yeah it'll be fine cool cool cool all right thanks everyone grab that gem you guys we'll see you next week goodbye fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship

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