The Weekly Planet - 480 More MCU Delays & The Little Mermaid (with Claire Tonti)

Episode Date: May 29, 2023

WOW PODCAST. This week we talk the passing of two legends, we get into more MCU delays including some complications around the filming of Deadpool 3, the future of the John Wick franchise, more The Te...rminator from James Cameron, a new look at Barbie and Spider-Man 2 on the PS5 and special guest, Mason's bro Claire Tonti is hear to talk The Little Mermaid 2023. Tickets and more info for Claire's UK & Ireland Tour this July 2023: https://www.clairetonti.com/eventsJames & Claire's "What We Reading" podcast, Suggestible: https://play.acast.com/s/suggestible00:00 The Start01:53 Ray Stevenson & Tina Turner RIP04:41 Deadpool 3 vs The Writer's Strike09:52 The Future of John Wick13:30 More Terminator Movies with James Cameron15:28 First Reactions for Transformers & Spider-Verse18:10 Barbie Movie Trailer22:04 Spider-Man 2 PlayStation Trailer24:37 Claire Tonti is here!34:27 The Little Mermaid 2023 Review (spoilers 46:31 to 01:08:20)01:18:19 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:22:03 Letters, It's Time For LettersVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.James' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:12 With me as always on my coast is Nick Mason But we're not brothers What? Before he was like, let's go brother And I had to clarify that we're not brothers I've been using that for years We're not brothers You never corrected me before
Starting point is 00:01:23 I was like, let's do this brother And you're like, okay. I was humoring you, but I'm sick of it. This is like the Banshees of interim, a movie I recently watched where there were two friends and one of them was just for one day was just like, no. Is that why you're missing all your fingers? Yes, Mason.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Wow. Wow. I know I didn't offer any kind of warning. I just thought if I did it, you would take the hit. Yeah. I've said brother roughly ten times. Yes, that's right. You can see all your fingers.
Starting point is 00:01:48 So, okay. Anyway, it's a big week this week, Mason, because there's a big movie, obviously, with Little Mermaid. We're going to have a very special guest. That's right. The mermaid. That's right. The titular mermaid.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Javier Bardem. That's right. Who will be swimming his way in. That's right. Swimming and smouldering his way into the studio. That's right. Claire will be here, who people might know as my wife and Mason's brother. And, yeah, we're just going to have a good time maybe.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I don't know. We'll see. What a reveal. Yeah. You're not hearing me this time. No, that's true. That one's real. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:02:17 We're also going to talk about a bunch of things, including more delays due to the writer's strike. I was going to say I love a bunch of things. We've just said a delay. No, this one's good. I like it. I like it. It's fun. The future set a delay. No, this one's good. I like it. I like it. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:02:27 The future of John Wick. The future of the Terminator. First reactions to both. Do you think those could be combined? Maybe. John Wick v. The Terminator? Yes. First reactions for Transformers, Rise of the Beast,
Starting point is 00:02:38 and Spider-Man's Spider-Verse time. Trailers for Barbie and the new Spider-Man game. And then, of course, the thing that I said. There'll be time codes below. Collings who edits this puts them in. But I guess we have to kick things off. Not I guess. I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:02:51 It's sad news, but I'm happy to do it. Yeah, okay. I guess. Ray Stevenson has passed away at age 58. Too young. At the moment, yeah, cause of death is unknown. It happened in Italy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:02 All that's said was a sudden illness that required hospitalization. Now, people mention like a number of the stuff that he's been involved in. The TV show Rome. That's right. Which I have not seen, but people love and say he's incredible. Yeah. The Punisher. Yes, he is my personal favorite Punisher in the grottiest, grossest Punisher movie.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And I say that with love. Absolutely. That's my favorite. It's just the he's also the biggest the nastiest shoots the parkour guy with a rocket launcher
Starting point is 00:03:30 that's right it's the funniest one I think as well it's definitely the funniest one directed by Lexi Alexander who I think doesn't get enough credit or enough directing roles
Starting point is 00:03:38 completely agree there you go he was in a season of Dexter that's right he's in the upcoming Ahsoka series he's got an orange lightsaber that's right
Starting point is 00:03:44 so yeah that sucks he's great apparently very nice by all accounts yeah yeah yeah yeah He was in a season of Dexter. That's right. He's in the upcoming Ahsoka series. He's got an orange lightsaber. That's right. So, yeah, that sucks. He's great. Apparently very nice by all accounts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Boo. Volstagg.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Volstagg, yeah. In MCU. Yeah, got two Marvel roles. Yeah, but like they could have done more with that as opposed to not doing much. Agreed. Yeah. Sure, yeah. Anyway, that's a real shame. Rest in peace, Ray Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:04:01 But, yeah, you could literally watch any of the things mentioned and you'd be like, oh, yeah, these are good. Yeah. And he's good in them. Yeah. Tangentially yeah, you could literally watch any of the things mentioned and you'd be like, oh, yeah, these are good. Yeah. And he's good in them. Yeah. Tangentially related, Tina Turner also passed away. Oh, yeah. Mentioned that, 83.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Mm-hmm. She was, of course, Auntie Entity. Beyond Thunderdome. Yes, Auntie Entity in Beyond Thunderdome. And music. Oh, yeah, one of the biggest superstars. She did that twice as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:22 She was with Ike Turner for a number of years and that fell apart because he was awful. And then she just started over again and became a huge, you know, megastar again. Yeah. Sort of adopted Australian honorary straight because of the nut bush. And also because of like simply the best. Yep. You know, with the rugby league. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And of course she was in Thunderdome. Yep. Apparently she was in Thunderdome because when George Miller and co were writing the movie, they're like, okay, we need a character. We need a kind of imposing character. We have a character. We have Mad Max. That's right.
Starting point is 00:04:51 We need a second character. If this series could have a second character, we'd appreciate it. But they were like, we need a character who, you know, survived the apocalypse like so many people in this universe but not only survived but, like, became better than they'd ever become before. Sure. And they were like, you know, like Tina Turner.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And so they were writing and they're like, oh, we should make this character more like Tina Turner who like, you know, had a lot of stumbling blocks but then just came back even. Yeah. You know, make her like more like Tina Turner. And then they're like, should we get Tina Turner? Should we ask Tina Turner? And they did and she said yes.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah, she's really great in that movie also, yeah. Look, I don't think it's the best Mad Max movie. No. But Tina Turner's really good in it. I agree, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The best one is the 2015 one. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Undeniably. That's exactly right, yes. But, you know, it's – They're all fun. They're all fun. What an incredible amount of lore and so on and so forth. Yeah, and they're loosely connected but not really. So, Mason, it's time for delays but good because of the writer's strike.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Love delays. And we wouldn't have delays, I feel the need to point this out whenever we bring it up, if people were paid properly. That's right. This isn't a matter of just like, hey, get back to work, you're delaying movies. That's right. You paid people properly and then they could go back to work
Starting point is 00:06:02 and earn livable amounts of money. Delays unless you give writers pays. That's great, Mason. I agree. Delays but good is what we're going with. But here's one that isn't being delayed apparently, is Deadpool 3. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So there's a couple of other Marvel things. There's always things being announced but two of the big ones this week is Thunderball. Thunderball? Thunderball? Thunderball has been delayed, Mason. Oh, my God. The third remake of Thunderball.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Now, Thunderbolts has stopped, as has Wonder Man. But, yeah, Deadpool 3 is going ahead, but there is some legalities there which might trip it up. Well, as I understand it, Ryan Reynolds is a Writers Guild writer. Yes. So if he improvises on set, as he is wanted to do, that counts as writing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So that could be a violation of the strike. And also the last time Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman teamed up during a writer's strike, we got X-Men Origins Wolverine, which is bad. Good movie. Why not bookend the Deadpool trilogy, which starts with that? Yes. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:01 The Wolverine movies. There we go. That's a better way to put it, where you've got a bad one at the start and a bad one at the end. A bad one at the end. You know? Yeah, yeah. And then they could both do one of those. They could advertise their gins and their whatever and be like,
Starting point is 00:07:12 have one of these after a bad movie you made. Which you just watched. We made it and you watched it. And it's all a big tax write-off for us somehow. That's it. Did you also see Quentin Tarantino was like, what's going on with Ryan Reynolds? Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah, he was like, he made a movie and what was it? Is it real? Yeah, he was like, I hear Ryan Reynolds makes $50 million for this movie and $50 million for this movie and this movie, but have you seen any of them? He's right. He's not wrong. I have.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I've seen all of them. I haven't seen Red Notice or the other one with Michael Bay, Six Underground. No, I saw he came back from the future and he was his own dad and was also Star Wars. Yeah, own dad space pilot. Yeah, I saw that one. That one's called, yeah, you saw that one.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Is that right? Yeah. Is it the main guy got paid $50 million all right? Absolutely. I agree. Definitely. I love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So it's kind of a grey area in terms of actors being able to improvise on set. We know when the second Daniel Craig Bond movie, Quantum of Souls, because Daniel Craig was not a writer, he was allowed to improvise and write stuff because he wasn't, he's not a writer. Yeah, because I guess the idea then is if he doesn't have the accreditation, it's probably going to be bad.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah. So don't even worry about it. Absolutely. If anything, this is going to prove how much you need writers because the non-writers are going to come up with a bunch of garbage. But here's the thing, as you mentioned. Give me back the Solace. Oh, we've dropped the Solace.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Where is it? It's very small. Wait, is it a metaphor or is it a real thing I can pick up? I'll just pretend to pick up something. You put something in my hand in post. It's Solace brand vodka. They sorted that. They built a shell company but ryan reynolds is an actor and a writer and producer on this and this is why the daily and other things and other things exactly why the daily dot it said reynolds would probably be
Starting point is 00:08:58 doing this kind of work but if he supports the strike he'll have to bite his tongue and keep filming with zero rewrites scabs and strike breakers risk being reported to the WGA tip line and expelled from the guilt. Uh-oh. Here's the other thing, though, with the character of Deadpool. Because he's masked, they can fill a lot of this in afterwards. They absolutely can. As soon as the strike is over.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah. You can go back and he can be like, look at my balls. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And that's right. Which is obviously in the script, but if they wanted to add more of that. Add more of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How about he says that every time he kills a guy, they can say. And that's right. Which is obviously in the script, but if they wanted to add more of that. Add more of that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:25 How about he says that every time he kills a guy, they could say. You're absolutely right. And they could do it during filming. There's no way for us to know. They could just write stuff and go, okay, well, we'll just have him look at the camera or whatever. And then as soon as the strike is over, we'd be like, oh, he came up with all these lines.
Starting point is 00:09:41 They could say later. Absolutely. But even the idea of him looking at the camera, that counts as writing. Does it really? Probably. So don't look at the camera. Because it's a script direction, surely.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Right, okay. So I guess they'll find spots. I'm sure they'll figure it out. Or they could just, again, they could just comp in the background later. Yeah. So whatever. Anyone can be anywhere saying anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 The perfect crime, Ryan Reynolds. Well done. But it'll be interesting to see how that unfolds. If it does, you know, we'll see what happens. So, Mason. Do you reckon we'll know? When Deadpool 3 comes out, do you think we'll watch it and go? Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I mean, you can tell on all of them. That's true. Because they CGI move the mouth under the mask. And he's just like, that's Barbra Streisand or whatever. Sure, yeah. A thing that he would say, basically. What's a thing he would say? He'd say, there's Barbra Streisand.
Starting point is 00:10:31 The classic Deadpool non sequitur that we all love. It's just like that Joe Family guy, actually. That's true. Which he was on. Was he? Yeah, he did an episode where he was Peter Griffin. They were in love. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:42 It doesn't matter. That's great. What's important is that I have seen that episode. Everybody remember that. Write that down. Mason, there was a Lionsgate earnings call this week. Love that, whatever that is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:51 So they talked about the future of John Wick. Okay. And it was headed up by Lionsgate executive Joe Drake. Don't know who that is. Yeah. Good name though. I agree. I think John Drake would be better.
Starting point is 00:11:03 John Drake. If he was an action hero i think john drake would be better than joe drake yeah i was gonna say it works the other way but it doesn't drake john no that's bad drake johnson i don't like that no drake john handgun that's pretty good actually yeah thank you so now dick john handgun yeah that's you're right that's very good so we're now this is what what John Drake, Dick Handgun. My friends call me Dick, Dick John Handgun. And then it all comes up in like the Sin City font, Dick John Handgun.
Starting point is 00:11:34 He said, we're moving across. Don't forget it. That's my name, Dick John Handgun. You wouldn't forget it either. No, no, no, that's right. I don't believe so. So on the topic of John Wick, he said, we're now moving across the franchise, not just in the AAA video game space,
Starting point is 00:11:47 so I look forward to more of that, I guess, but looking at what the regular cadence of spin-offs, television, really growing that universe. So there is a steady cadence of the franchise and there's a clear appetite by the audience. It's just word salad, isn't it? I probably read this wrong also. No, I think you've probably put more charisma behind it
Starting point is 00:12:04 than the John Drake handgun or whatever. We're a developer of three others, including John Wick Chapter 5. There we go. It's confirmed. But you can rely on regular cadence of John Wick. Great. So he's used the word cadence here a few times. He's clearly just come across this.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It doesn't necessarily apply every time he uses it. Lawrence Fishburne, like, John, can we rely on your regular cadence? Yeah, I'm thinking you can rely on my regular cadence. So I guess if you haven't seen John Wick 3, and I think it's coming to streaming. Do you mean 4? 4, sorry, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You have seen it because somebody put it on Twitter this week. Oh, did they? Oh, great. The entire movie. Wow, that's great. And it stayed up for, like, days. Well, that's longer than some other things that were attempted on Twitter last week. It's true.
Starting point is 00:12:47 You know? Some things were attempted and failed almost immediately for a large period of time. But you're telling me you can just upload a movie though. You can just upload it in like 720p. You can watch that on your TV probably. Yeah, it's great. A bunch of people could probably download it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 You know, just watch it. But at least people are talking about it. It's a big success. It's true, yeah. That's the most important thing. Somebody was saying on Twitter this week that apparently the John Wick movies each represents a stage of grief or something. No.
Starting point is 00:13:13 That's something they made up after the fact. Okay, right, right. When you say they, do you mean the creators or do you mean somebody on Twitter? I don't know. Just somebody on Twitter. Okay, right. Okay, fair enough. But anyways, if you saw four, it ends in a way where it's like,
Starting point is 00:13:24 where's this going to go? That's right. John Wick 5 is the answer, though. Yeah, right. Yeah. Okay, right. Okay, fair enough. But anyways, if you saw four, it ends in a way where it's like, where's this going to go? That's right. John McFive is the answer though. Yeah, right. Yeah. So good. After three, I was like, I don't know. But then after four, I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah. That was great actually. Yeah. Make another one. Agreed. If you want. If you want to. That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But also we're getting that hotel show. Yeah. And we're getting ballerina. Supposedly or allegedly. Maybe. Yeah. Here we go, Mason. Unless that was based on, I was going to say based on
Starting point is 00:13:46 Anna Diamonds' performance in Ghosted, but who knows whether that was. Yeah, that wasn't real though, was it? Yeah, none of that was real. Yeah, that was a fake movie. Okay, cool. That was a fake movie in an episode. That was a fake movie in a different movie where somebody plays an actor who's like, why don't you get me any good roles?
Starting point is 00:14:03 Oh. My last movie was a movie where I'm a regular guy and then it turns out my girlfriend's a super spy and we go to Paris or whatever. It was boring and everybody hated it. And even if within this movie we're making it wasn't real. I don't know how deep this goes. Who am I?
Starting point is 00:14:21 How not real is this? Or am I? Yeah. Anyway, this is via Rob Mercado on Twitter. Okay. So apparently James Cameron was at Dell Tech World this week. Nice. That would be probably great for the owners or operators of Dell Tech World.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Oh, like the computer manufacturer. I assume so. Okay, right. So he said, so James Cameron just- Hi, I'm Dell. Dell Tech World. Wow, handgun. That's right.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yes, we are related. Yeah, that's. That's right. Yes, we are related. Yeah, that's right. We're part of the handgun dynasty. You know, we made all those dishwashers. That's our family business. Yeah, that's right. So James Cameron just told the hashtag Del Tech World crowd that he started to write a new Terminator movie three months ago
Starting point is 00:15:02 but wants to see how AI shakes out before he goes any further. Interesting. Just take a swipe at it, James Cameron. Yeah. You guessed before. What's stopping you guessing now? Don't be a coward. That's right. What's going to happen to AI? What kind of future skeletons are we going to be getting? I want to know. In this future you can trick the T-800s into not killing you
Starting point is 00:15:20 by telling them they're like hot water heaters or whatever. Yeah, absolutely. You're actually my garage door opener. You can't kill me. Okay. Anyways, I have to go to work, so open the garage, though, for real. So, yeah, just the idea that they're thinking about another Terminator movie.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I mean, of course they would be even though the last seven has bombed. Sure, sure, sure. And that last one, like, yeah, lost a lot of money. Do you think somebody put it in his ear that two was great and it's been diminishing returns since and they're like, there's no way. Because I feel like Cameron, a lot of his stuff is responding to challenges.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Sure. Do you think somebody's like, well, the last few were bad. There's no way you could. And they've all, you know, lost money at the box office and he's like, we'll see about that. But unless he's going to direct it, like, why? That's a great point. Look, if they're going to do this, and I know Arnold has come out
Starting point is 00:16:07 and said he's definitely done with this apparently, then do what you did with Prey or The Evil Dead. You make a smaller stripped down version of different characters, different Terminator, different timeline or whatever. Old West Terminator. Yeah, it's fine. Hit him with a train at the end. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah, that's right. Mason. Go on. There's been first reactions though to a couple of movies this week. Oh, yes. Transformers Rise of the Beasts. hit him with a train at the end ooh yeah that's right Mason go on there's been first reactions though to a couple of movies this week oh yes Transformers Rise of the Beasts where people were saying
Starting point is 00:16:31 it was actually not bad I sat through it and it was way better than the several they made that were really bad interesting better than that and maybe the best one
Starting point is 00:16:39 ooh yeah that's pretty good so that's good news I agree now that comes out on the 20th in Australia, but they're doing special King's holiday weekend screenings,
Starting point is 00:16:50 which is the week that it comes out in the US. Okay. For the King. For the King. Okay. The King's coming over. He's going to watch Transformers, Revenge of the Beast or whatever. Ooh, splendid.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I'm miserable, but this was okay. But so we'll probably have to release that show a bit later because I think the screenings that are showing are later on the long weekend. I see. So the weekend that that comes out, the show will be pushed back slightly. I'll be honest, I haven't really understood what you're saying, but we'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Don't worry about it. I'm just telling people that in two weeks the show will be slightly delayed probably, just a little bit. Delays but good. Delays but good, exactly. And also Into the Spider-Verse, Across the Spider-Verse came out and people were like, it's the freaking best movie ever made. That's right.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Now these are, again, early days. Who knows, advanced screenings, et cetera. But it's not terrible news to be like two movies are all right. Yeah. And that's good for me, mate. Yeah, yeah. Also shout out to the Transformers enjoying community who seem to enjoy our Caravan of Garbage on Transformers the movie.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Are they? Are we getting insane stuff? I mean, I was very sick this week. People have been quite positive. Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit confused over the name because it's their first exposure
Starting point is 00:17:58 to the show Caravan of Garbage. Oh, okay. Yeah, of course. Once they've gone over that hump, they're like, okay, we weren't that mean. And we did get some corrections of like it's actually called. Yeah, of course. Once they've gone over that hump, they're like, okay, we weren't that mean. And we did get some corrections of like, it's actually called The Transformers, the movie. Well, that's bad. And I know that, but I'm not going to title it that.
Starting point is 00:18:12 It's too many thes in the title. It pushes the rest of the, if you're seeing just a clip of the thumbnail, like a picture of it, it's going to push a bunch of the titling out. And I'm not going to cave to big Transformer. That's right. No matter how big they are. What if it was Metroplex? Go bigger, please.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Maybe if it was a bigger one. There's no bigger one. Yes, there is. Name one. Well, there's Unicron, obviously. Yeah, but I don't count him as a triptychon. No, I think Metroplex is bigger. Bigger than triptychon?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yes. I'm not talking about toy sizes. I'm talking canonically. I know what you meant. Ticon versus Metroplex. Let's say it. Well, in this video that I'm saying of the cartoon, it looks like Trypticon is bigger.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I don't believe you. But in other places he looks smaller. That's something to think about. I think so too, yeah. Yeah, MLN is bigger. We'll read them all out next week. Mason, trailers are high. Barbie got a new trailer.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Sure did. I went to the IGN comments, which I would recommend never doing. Okay. It's the worst. On IGN.com presumably. Yes,.com.au. Okay. Because it's geographic specific.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Okay. And you've been banned from IGN.com regular. Correct. And for good reason. But even the comments there were like, this actually looks good. Agreed. Yeah. And I agree.
Starting point is 00:19:32 It does look good. So this is, it is the concept that perhaps people predicted, which is Barbie's. Lego movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Barbie's living in Barbie land and she seems to be having some, some glitching is occurring. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And she's like, well, in order to figure this out, I have to go to the real world. And what's going to happen in there? Adventures probably. Real stuff. Real stuff. And just like in the Lego movie, Will Ferrell is there. That's right. In the real world.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yes. I like the little things like the shower doesn't really work because it's a playhouse. She like floats down from the top because that's what a kid would do. You take Barbie downstairs. Like I liked all those little touches. She had a Matrix style existential choice where she had to choose between her beautiful high-heeled shoes and some dirty old Birkenstocks. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It's a bit of fun. It is a bit of fun, Mason. Yeah. What else happens in that trailer? Jokes galore. Jokes galore. Other versions of Barbie and Ken and whatnot. Other versions of Barbie and Ken, that's true.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. It's like a lot of fun. Do you think this is going to be like a hit with kids though? I don't know. I don't even know if kids still like Barbies. Yeah, I mean they do. Right. You see them in the toy shop.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I guess they're ubiquitous. Like they're just around. Yeah. It's like a stock thing you can get. It's a stock thing. Like a stocking. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:38 So, you know. But I don't know whether like looking at this trailer, like there are some jokes that you're like, is that something you'd bring like a little kid to? like or would they not get it i think they wouldn't get it yeah i think they just be like they're saying funny words they're saying funny they are asking questions yeah and i'm unhappy about it i'm gonna complain and boycott yeah me too i'm actually i was in the ign comments earlier and i was doing exactly that the other big reveal we got we got a playstation oh that's the other thing that they a PlayStation. Oh, that's the other thing of note.
Starting point is 00:21:05 What? The other thing of note, James, is that there's a Nicki Minaj song on the soundtrack that samples Barbie Girl. Because they were very clear that Barbie was not going to be, they had used that song, right? Yeah, so Aqua was sort of. I think it's Aqua, but go on.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Okay, right. Well, Aqua, like Aquaman, were a Danish sort of pop band in the 90s and they released Barbie Girl, which was a big hit. And Dr. Jones. Big year for them. Do you think Dr. Jones is going to be in the Dial of Destiny? 100%. That's right.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one thing they're going to see in the time portal. They're like, let's try the future. Jones, Jones, going to be Jones. It's all right. I guess. I mean, for a follow-up single, it's all right. Yeah, let's try the future. Jones, Jones, going to be Jones. It's all right. I guess. I mean, for a follow-up single, it's all right. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Anyway, so, but Mattel sued EMI, which was Aqua's music label. Right. Because they're like, you're bringing Barbie into disrepute. And then Aqua sued Mattel because Mattel were like, these people are like bank robbers. They're stealing our stuff or whatever. And ACWA were like, ACWA, sorry, we don't care for this. And that's the famous court case is where the judge was like,
Starting point is 00:22:14 both parties need to chill. Like that was in the official judgment. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. And so. I mean, there should be more of that. Just people reaching across the aisle and understanding each other. That's great.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And it's beautiful, isn't it? That's how Matthew McConaughey approaches life. Yeah. But then Mattel have since used a version of Barbie Girl in their advertising. I think when their sales dropped. Yeah, okay. But anyway, I think it's interesting that they're not using Barbie Girl, but they're using this song that has a sample of Barbie Girl.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It might be like in the credits or whatever. Yeah, maybe. They'll slap it in there or something. They'll probably slap it in there, yeah. Good stuff, Mason. Anyway, could be good or whatever. Yeah, maybe. They'll slap it in there or something. They'll probably slap it in there, yeah. Good stuff, Mason. Anyway, could be good or big or bad and nothing. You're absolutely right. And that's a guarantee.
Starting point is 00:22:51 That's right. That's the Weekly Planet guarantee. Could be big or bad or nothing. You can take that to the bank. Definitely. Mason, you also got a gameplay reveal of Spider-Man 2. That's right. There was a PlayStation showcase.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Now, with this and Jedi Survivor out, We also got a gameplay reveal of Spider-Man 2. That's right. There was a PlayStation showcase. Now, with this and Jedi Survivor out, there's going to be two games that I will play on the PlayStation 5. Yeah. So this is probably going to get me there. I mean, Spider-Man was the game that made me get a PS4. Oh, really? So this might be the game that gets me a PS5. It won't get me a PS5.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I have to pay for a PS5. It won't get you one? It won't get me a free one. Yeah, we see the black suit5. It won't get you one? It won't get me a free one. But, yeah, we see the black suit Spider-Man. That's right. You're switching between Miles and Peter Parker. You gameplay. So it's not a multiplayer game.
Starting point is 00:23:32 It's not a two-player. It's a single-player. Which I think is good. Yeah, exactly, yeah. And so, yeah, a lot of new moves. It's New York again, so it's the same map but I think with more areas, which is what they did with New Zelda as well. It's the same original map, but
Starting point is 00:23:48 they've added to it. People are loving New Zelda. I think it's the best in one of them. People are just building insane contraptions in it and building the metal gears and stealth bombers and so forth. I still haven't played Breath of the Wild, so I feel like I'm never going to get to it. And I know people will tell me that I should play both, but
Starting point is 00:24:03 I probably just won't because I'm going to, even though I have a copy. Yes. But the important thing in my life is that I'm now looking forward to new games. Oh, yes. And games that I want to play like Jedi Survivor. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Yeah, that's where I'm looking. So it's too late. I mean, technically Tears of the Kingdom is a new game. It's too late, unfortunately. You're going to skip it? Okay, that's a shame. It's a shame for them. We also got a guy who looks like Kraven and you're like,
Starting point is 00:24:25 is that Kraven? And then Kraven kills that guy. like Kraven, and you're like, is that Kraven? And then Kraven kills that guy. That's right. And you're like, is that Kraven? Yep. And it was. It was Kraven. I was expecting a third bigger Kraven.
Starting point is 00:24:33 So it looks like what they're going to do here is they're going to do Venom, and they're also going to do Kraven's last hunt on some level because that storyline was when Spider-Man had a black suit. I don't think it was the alien black suit. It was just the regular suit. Yeah, that's all going to happen. Might get a green goblin in this. We didn't get one in the last game.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Well, they mentioned Harry Osborn in it. That's true. The lizard is in this as well. The lizard is in this. There's a bit where you're underwater and you see the big lizard coming towards you. He's like, ooh, don't like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:59 No, thank you. Scary stuff, Mason. Anyway, it looks like a ton of fun. I'm excited for that. And again, all the mechanics were super fun. Storyline was great. Web wings, which I think was in the Miles expansion probably. More slingshotting, etc.
Starting point is 00:25:12 That's right. I want fall damage. My only request, fall damage, that you can die and hit the ground. And you die in real life. We're going to use that weird Oculus version that's got a shotgun in it or whatever. It comes with a game.
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Starting point is 00:26:22 Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Well, Mason, what's exciting this week is that you're going to love this. What? Fast X. Fast X had a huge drop off. Is that good? No, that's bad for Fast X.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Oh, well. Because they're like, hopefully this will have legs over the summer and people will keep running back to cinemas to catch Dom Toretto. What's Fast X? I'm sorry to talk yet. Sorry. Wow. I mean, you can.
Starting point is 00:26:47 We're already getting emails of complaints. Somebody coming in and not knowing what Fast X is. I know. Terrible. Claire, it's the 10th installment of the Fast and Furious movie franchise but the 11th installment overall if you count Hobbs and Shaw. Fast and Furious presents Hobbs and Shaw. Correct.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And we do. Or don't. They should get rid of one. Which one? Three, I think. Two. Four? Four. Four's Or don't. They should get rid of one. Which one? Three, I think. Two. Four? Four.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Four's nothing. Yeah, let's get rid of four. Yeah. Good. There seems not enough of those movies. I feel like there should be more of them. Who's this? Yeah, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Anyway, you were saying there's a big drop off. Yeah, big drop off. But what that allowed for in the US at least, the Little Mermaid movie. Oh, yes. A Little Mermaid. Is that right? Seems right. A whole new world.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Claire. We got emails about that as well. That's from Aladdin. Look. We should have picked it up on the time, but we were swept away by an incredible guest appearance like last week or something. I just thought you weren't going to leave that in.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I just came in yelling at you to, like, finish early. Claire, everything is content. And then someone messaged me to say it gave them anxiety because they were wrapping up the episode too quickly. Also, I just want to point out, Mason, you know that thing how she sped us up last week for a podcast? It didn't happen. It didn't happen, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Okay, great. Also, first rule of podcasting, Claire, and you know this, is don't say anything in the microphone that you have to ask somebody to take out because they probably will forget. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that happens every week to me. Not calling so. No, you won't forget. I'm so unprofessional. Unless you command forget. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that happens every week to me. Not calling so. No, he won't forget.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I'm so unprofessional. Unless you command him. That's true. Anyways, this movie had a budget of $250 million and probably about $100 million for marketing. You're talking about A Little Mermaid. A Little Mermaid. You can certainly see every single cent of it on screen at all times. Disagree.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I believe they said. But it had a US box office opening weekend of $125 million, which is good. It's doing good in the US. Great. But in a bunch of markets in Asia, including China, it is not doing well. What about in Oceania, which is us? It's doing beautifully there.
Starting point is 00:28:32 That's great. So, like, you need China to, like, to crack a billion often. Not always, but often. Yeah. There are complicated reasons why this may not be happening, which I'm not going to get into. Claire, did you expect to have any of this thrust upon you? No, this is so boring.
Starting point is 00:28:47 What do you mean so boring? I was hoping to get straight into it. James loves to talk about the box office and the budget. Like briefly. I find it so boring. I just want to talk about the giant shark teeth that were on King Trident's head. I didn't notice that at all. No, I didn't notice that either.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Ah, so exciting. I do want to talk about King Trident because he looks slightly less majestic out of water. We'll get into it. Javier Bardem. Javier Bardem. Claire's here for people who are. Yeah, so Claire, we're married and that's probably the most
Starting point is 00:29:13 interesting thing. But I think the most interesting thing is, and I asked this off air and it turned out to be true, you two watched this movie separately. We did. With kids. Yeah. James was absolutely adamant that he couldn't go on his own. He was like, I don't know how we're going to watch this movie separately. We did. With kids. Yeah. James was absolutely adamant that he couldn't go on his own. He was like, I don't know how we're going to watch this movie,
Starting point is 00:29:29 but I am not taking myself alone. Yeah, I went by myself. An adult man going to this children's movie by myself on a Sunday, just a packed cinema of parents and children and me up the back. I had to pick the one, I had to pick the seat where I'm like, where's the least chance someone will see me and call the cops? Just in case. You should have dressed in a cinema uniform.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I had to think about what I wore as well because if I'm like, well, if I wear all black. Just wear your big trench coat. But if I wore like all primary colours, they'd be like, what's this dude's deal? You know what I mean? Absolutely. Anyway, we got through it all, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:30:10 We certainly did. We did. Anyway, Claire, the reason you're here is because, for one, you're a girl on Little Mermaid. Yeah, exactly. That's a big deal. Only women can talk about women-centred movies. You're also going to come back for the week that Barbie
Starting point is 00:30:22 and Oppenheimer come out, so we can talk about Oppenheimer, which is about the creation of the nuclear bomb during World War II. It's Christopher Nolan's latest. We're really excited for that. That's a girl movie, I feel. But you're going on tour in the UK. Is that true? That is true.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I know this is true because I'm here with the kids during the school holidays all by myself. He's happy about it. He's thrilled. He's going to The Little Mermaid again. Yes, with both of them. I am. I'm going with the kids during the school holidays all by myself. He's happy about it. He's thrilled. He's going to The Little Mermaid again. Yes, with both of them. I am. I'm going on tour.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'm taking my album because I like to make music things. Sure. And you're going to be playing music from that album. You're not just bringing the album to show people. I thought I would sing the soundtrack to Aladdin. Oh, yes. Yeah, but then tell everyone it's going to be the soundtrack to The Little Mermaid.
Starting point is 00:31:03 People would love that. And that is what I'm taking around with me around the traps. No, so then tell everyone it's going to be the soundtrack to The Little Mermaid. People would love that. And that is what I'm taking around with me around the traps. No, so I have written an – I feel funny talking about this in here. Anyway, I have written an album. We podcast in here. Yeah, I know, but it's a different – everyone hates having a guest on. So annoying. They do hate guests, mate.
Starting point is 00:31:19 No, it's true. You don't want a guest. You just want the banter of these two guys. You just want the boys. You just want a couple of boys. Talking about a little mermaid. I thought the boys were going to talk about a little mermaid. What's Claire doing here talking about?
Starting point is 00:31:32 I don't like it. That is correct. All right. Anyway, should I just quickly say? Yeah, do the dates and whatever and what it's about. Okay, do the dates. Okay, cool. So my album is called Matrescence.
Starting point is 00:31:40 It's an indie folk pop album. It talks about love and loss, birth trauma as well, which is obviously quite a dark topic. But I think overall, it's really just about the human condition. Matrescence is a word that I think a lot of people are really unfamiliar with. And as soon as I explain what it is, it's like a light bulb goes off for so many people. Even my Uber driver the other day was like, yeah, that makes total sense. So like adolescence, when we total sense. So like adolescents, when we go through these big identity shifts, our hormones change, our bodies change, our social networks
Starting point is 00:32:09 change, and we're never the same again afterwards. And there's a lot of angst and all the things. I'm the same. Mason, you're the same. Yeah, I was just actually thinking that we stayed the same. Yeah, you guys are, yeah, man, children. No growth. Correct. Zero growth. We're the no growth bros. We're not brothers. That's right.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Just to clarify. Sorry. Zero gross. We're the no growth bros. We're not brothers. That's right. Just to clarify. Sorry, go on. And that's the same thing that happens when a person gives birth or when they become pregnant. And so that can also happen to men as well. There's such a thing as putrescence too. But it really is a huge shift in who you are as a person. This guy's got putrescence.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Yeah. Is that good? Yep. Cool. Thanks, man. Very stinky. Putrescence. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Is that good? Yep. Cool. Thanks, man. Very stinky. Anyway, so that's what the album kind of is about, but I didn't plan to do that. I just kind of wrote what I was feeling,
Starting point is 00:32:55 particularly after having long COVID and a few things. And so anyway, all that is to say I'm so excited to bring this show to the UK. I've been invited to speak and sing at a conference over there, so I thought I may as well do some shows of my own. Have you got the dates in front of you? I do. I have them. So I'm going to be in London on the 2nd of July, 2pm at a place called The Space UK,
Starting point is 00:33:14 which is in the Isle of Dogs. An incredible poet called Holly McNish is going to be performing as well as Amy Taylor Cabaz, who is a matrescence activist. And I'm going to do my whole album. It's really awesome. We've got a rooftop beer garden. It's going to be really great and if you want to catch up afterwards and chill out, it's just a beautiful venue to go to.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah, but don't be weird. It's going to be a great afternoon. All right. I can't promise that. I can't promise that. Not you. All right. I mean you also.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I'm a little weird. So that's happening. Then I'm also going to be in Exeter on the 4th of July at the Hall Exeter. That's a 10 a.m. show so it's early. Independence Day. Yeah, you need time for the fireworks. Correct, exactly. And the Babies in Arms are welcome to that show as well.
Starting point is 00:33:57 It's not for kids but if you have a baby and you need to bring them, Claire will hold your kid while you call me. Correct. And then I'll be in Dublin on Thursday, the 6th of July playing an evening show at eight o'clock at the Bello Bar. It's candlelit, it's really moody. It's cool. I'll be doing my album and also some new songs that I've been writing as well. And Amy Taylor-Kabaz will be there as well. And then I'm heading to Edinburgh. I'm so excited about this one. I'm going to be playing in a place called The Caves, which is in Old Town.
Starting point is 00:34:25 It's kind of like underneath the city. It used to be just called Town Mason. Did you know that? Nice. And then some time passed. Yeah, and it's like you're called Old Man. What? No, it's Regular Man.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Regular Man. I'm the same. We talked about this. You're going to be 40 this year. Disagree. Go on. Anyway, where was I? The Caves.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah. So that is going to be at 2 o'clock again on the Sunday afternoon in Edinburgh. Yeah. And there's more dates coming. So there's a link in the show notes below on my website, Claire20Events, or follow me on Instagram at Claire20 for more. I know that if you're someone that listens to anything of motherhood, it's never relevant to me.
Starting point is 00:34:59 That's how all our listeners sound as well. It's true. That's really just how you guys work. No, I would really say. It's as well. It's true. That's really just how you guys work. No, I would really say. It's not Claire. It's actually not. Liz Morton, you want to see what we do actually? Anyway, we're talking about, we have to talk about The Little Women.
Starting point is 00:35:11 We will. I will say, though, that the album isn't just for mothers. No, and a lot of people also who might know you through like Suggestible or whatever or this or whatever, like might bring their partner or whatever, which is you do not have to do. No, but I think that's actually a lot of people have. I've written a song about how we met, which is really cute. And often when people bring their partners,
Starting point is 00:35:31 it's actually a really beautiful night to then open up discussion about what you've been through, particularly when you've got little kids. And then also bringing like a mother's group or friends that are doing parenting with you is really cool too because it does just kind of make you reflect on how far you've come and where you're at at the moment. There are songs about things like relationship breakdown but also about love of your kids and about desire as well.
Starting point is 00:35:54 My first single, Fear to Feel, is kind of like an imagined character song about desire which is kind of cool. I know. Anyway, all that is to say I'm super proud of it and Piggie Digg are actually going to be really fun gigs. Cool. So I'd love to see anyone there who'd like to come. Well, I'd love to be there but I'm not.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I'll be here looking after the kids and doing the weekly planet podcast with Mason. Love that. Yeah. Correct. Cool. All right. I'll Skype you in.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Oh, that's linked below. Yeah, please. This is the part of the show where we ask Mason what he thinks the story was. Oh, yeah, nice. All right, great. I'm very excited for this. I'm super excited. All right, so Ariel's a hoarder.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yep. She's a big old hoarder. And she wished she knew another hoarder. Yeah. She's a real surface weeb. She loves just a real fan of people from the surface. Just dropping shit to the ocean. She just collects their garbage and is like, ooh, valuable.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Love this. And she wishes she knew another hoarder. Yeah. And then maybe there is one. Maybe he's a prince. He's a dude. But he lives in the surface, so what's he going to do? Magic, probably.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And he's 21, isn't he? He's definitely 21. He does not look 21. No, he's 21 in the movie. They say it. There's a moment where he's been in the water and his hair's down or whatever, and I'm like, oh, okay, I can sort of see how he would look 21. How he used to look.
Starting point is 00:37:08 But he's been given an old bloke haircut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been given an old, old and tiny haircut. I was trying to do the Eric from the cartoon. It's a Mr Darcy kind of haircut. I can see it. Now, Claire, you're a huge fan of The Little Mermaid, the original, but also notoriously, as you said recently,
Starting point is 00:37:23 you hate all movies. That's true. Yeah, you said you only like film. Yeah. And it didn't backfire at all. No, it was fine. Nobody sent me any emails. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:37:33 What did you think being a fan of the original one and also hating the Disney remakes? I think you hate, except for Cinderella, which is also the one I like. And I really hate any kind of like CGI creatures as well. Yeah, you hate the Lion King. I mean, everyone hates the one I like. And I really hate any kind of like CGI creatures as well. Yeah, you hate the new Lion King. I mean, everyone hates the new Lion King. Okay, but what if they're right in the middle of looking like boring, like real sea life, but they've got some elements of being
Starting point is 00:37:55 like a cartoon character? Do you like that? What if the crab is Jamaican, for example? What if that? Yeah. All right. What if the bird can breathe underwater? What if that, for example? No, that's actually. All right. What if the bird can breathe underwater? What if that, for example?
Starting point is 00:38:05 No, that's actually like they chose a different breed of bird that could swim underwater. And breathe and talk underwater? Well, yeah, because it's a seabird. It's supposed to be able to do that. I don't know about talking. I don't think they can talk underwater. No, I agree.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Right. I have kept in a vault how I felt about this movie because you kept trying to like spark me over in the kitchen. You'd be like, how about the Sebastian Crab? And I was like, no, I'm not telling you anything. And she still won't. Yeah, good. Do you think I liked it or not?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah, I think you did like it. How do you know? I can tell. Yeah, I really loved it. I loved it so much. I cried. I cried in the bit where she's hoarding in the cave and she sings the song about part of your world.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I've got so much garbage. What do I do? What is this, Ethan? Okay, for example. The bird told me this fork is a comb. I don't know whether that's true. Now, I haven't seen the original of this. The dinglehopper, James, that's what it's called.
Starting point is 00:39:00 How close is this to the original? I've seen the original. It's longer, certainly. It's very close. It's too, certainly. It's very close. It's too long for me. This is. It is brilliant. My daughter and I loved it.
Starting point is 00:39:10 We watched every single second of it. She's three and she sat through the entire thing, including the credits. Yeah. And the whole time she was like, this is great. I'm like, I know. And it was so good. I will give you this.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Like, this is not for me. So I was just like, whatever. But Halle Bailey. So amazing, really good Ariel. Yeah. Like she'll go far. So incredible. Or she'll just do this role again. Do you know she was the first one they auditioned and the director cried?
Starting point is 00:39:36 That happened to Alden Einreich on the movie Solo. Oh, my goodness. You knew that. I didn't know that. But there you go. Yeah, no, Rob Marshall said he cried when he saw her perform that song, Part of Your World. Which one? The Part of Your World, the quarter song. I don't know that, but there you go. Yeah, no, Rob Marshall said he cried when he saw her perform that song, Part of Your World. Which one?
Starting point is 00:39:47 The Part of Your World, the quarter song. I don't know. Yeah, anyway. The whole part of your world. That song. You know that song. Put a runner fork through your hair. Okay, I know that you have many feelings about many other movies
Starting point is 00:39:58 where you have big emotions. No, I know. Including things like Harrison Ford maybe in the next Indiana Jones and you're holding out hope that it's going to be wonderful. Have you noticed that Claire talks with her hands? Yeah. That whereas we don't at all. There's no movement at all.
Starting point is 00:40:10 We're locked in. Look, I'm a telly in heritage. I'm very passionate. I have to say. Like one-eighth. That counts. It's in there somewhere. Okay, so let me explain to you why this movie is so great
Starting point is 00:40:22 on so many levels for people like me. Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. And I don't mean just women. I just mean people who watched this as a kid and loved it. They watched this movie as a kid? Yeah. This exact movie? Mate, so stop being annoying and let me have my little time in the sun.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Claire, that's my whole brand. What are you talking about? My whole brand is being annoying. What do you think he's here for? I mean to chip away at your enthusiasm for this movie. James said it in advance. It's going to break my heart. He said it doesn't matter whether you may so like this movie or not,
Starting point is 00:40:52 your job is to chip away at Claire's enjoyment until she realises that it wasn't that good and she goes away deflated and dejected. Well, joke's on you because that could never happen because I'm the most enthusiastic person that's ever lived and I love this movie. All right then, we'll see about that. Let me explain to you, dum-dums, why it's ever lived and I love this movie. All right then. We'll see about that. Let me explain to you, dum-dums, why it's so good.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I love this. I know. So I know I feel bad. I didn't really. It's fine. Yeah. I'm so sorry. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:14 So when you watch this movie as a kid and people who loved it, I know my brother loved this movie as well. It means a lot to him too. Because that whole scene in the cave is about, I know this is really obvious, but it's about like wanting to be somewhere different and being trapped where you are. And I think that's a really important and deep narrative for a lot of women, but also a lot of queer people too, where they feel like they want to be someone new, where they feel like they have this sense that they're someone else and they really are longing to be there. And it's kind of like representative,
Starting point is 00:41:48 I guess, as well of being like a tween or a teenager and being stuck in a really conservative household or in a place where you can see this version of who you want to be, but you can't quite get there for lots of different reasons. And that's why that song means so much to so many people. Why Halle Bailey did such an incredible job with that song because she managed to sing it in a way that was even more poignant than the original Ariel. I mean you get like the emotions and whatever. That's a great way to summarise what Claire has just said there.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It's about the emotions and whatever. And also being a woman of colour as well, you cannot like discount that narrative too. No, and as you've probably heard or maybe you haven't heard. Yeah, it was really controversial. I know. But, yeah, there's a lot of people who were like,
Starting point is 00:42:33 it doesn't even make sense from a scientific perspective. Which is ridiculous. Fucking mermaids, who cares? But also as so many people said online as well, that kind of narrative of a mermaid or a merman has been in so many. A merman. Like Eugene Merman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Has been in so many different cultures around the world, right? And indigenous cultures particularly. So it's just ridiculous to think that a woman of colour couldn't play Ariel. I think she's brilliant in it regardless anyway. I think she's also brilliant from the perspective that a lot of this is set underwater so she would have built it in front of a green set underwater. I really wondered how they filmed this because I actually think it looks beautiful. I know you don't think it does.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Some of it. I don't think any of it looks like it's taking place underwater. No, I think Avatar 2, I think, ruined the underwater. I think there was some like different mermaids. No, I think that was intentional. Like there was like creative liberties with how like underwater works and whatever compared to like Avatar, which you haven't seen. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:43:29 You don't have to. But I think the fact that she gave that performance underwater, talking to nobody for most of it is really something. Because what would have she been talking to? A stick. A stick, a tennis ball. Yeah. Like someone off camera.
Starting point is 00:43:44 A wet one. Going like, yeah, man, I'm a crab. Like that's hard. Yeah. Probably. Because he's not a crab. That's the thing. That would have been a man.
Starting point is 00:43:51 It would have been a man. And you know that iconic scene, you probably don't because you haven't seen the original animation. I have seen the original. Where she flicks her hair. Yeah. And she kind of comes out onto the rock at the end. They do it in the movie.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Yeah. Well, this is what I'm saying. So in that moment, apparently her wig was so heavy, she felt like her neck was going to snap off because she flicked it out. That would have been a movie. Yeah, that would have been a movie. The whole head comes off. The rest of the movie she's just crooked to the side.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah, completely. I do actually think what was interesting too is that Lizzo auditioned and campaigned to be the role of Ursula and she actually donned all the make-up and did a video and tried to become Ursula. Oh, okay. She was looked over and was obviously given to Melissa McCarthy. I like Melissa McCarthy a lot, but I think she, like the look was nailed and whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah, yeah. But I don't think she was used enough, like of what she's good at. I don't think she's in it enough. I don't think she's given enough like weird, funny stuff to do because the weird kind of funny, creepy stuff is like, I think they could have pushed that further. Yeah, I loved it. No, I like her but I'm saying they could have done more with it
Starting point is 00:44:50 is what I'm saying. Yeah, I see what you mean but I also think, as you said, it was long enough anyway. But also watching it with my daughter because, remember, it's a children's movie. Sure. It's scary. All of that Ursula stuff is really scary.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And so if you extended it even more. Like Poor Unfortunate Souls is one of the best songs in that whole film. I thought it was really good. I mean, Melissa McCarthy had never done any singing before that. Probably Lizzo in the role would have been much more interesting, though I did watch her audition video and it wasn't very good. I know. Her voice was really good but her acting was not so good.
Starting point is 00:45:23 So much for women supporting women. I agree, Mason. Terrible. I love Lizzo. I love Lizzo. I'm such a massive Lizzo fan. But you're saying she wouldn't have been like right for it. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I don't know whether she's an actor is what I would say. Whereas obviously Melissa McCarthy has got that comedic physicality, which I think she lent really well to Ursula. Look, I don't know. Maybe I'm clouded by just how much I loved the original animation. No, but I don't think that is the case. Because also a lot of people will be like, I love the original so much that I hate this one.
Starting point is 00:45:54 The Lion King. Yeah, that's the Lion King syndrome and all the other ones except Aladdin, which I liked. Yeah, I also liked Aladdin. We're the two people on the world who liked Aladdin. Let me ask you this. The guy gets a song. He gets one song.
Starting point is 00:46:04 There's three new songs, right? Prince Eric. He gets a song. Is it Jonah Howard King? Yeah, something like Aladdin. Let me ask you this. The guy gets a song. He gets one song. There's three new songs, right? Prince Eric. He gets a song. Is it Jonah Howard King? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. He gets a song and it's just – Is it the same set up as in the animated movie?
Starting point is 00:46:15 No. Because in this it's just him sort of walking along the rocks and it feels like such an empty – like I think his singing is fine or good or what have you. Yeah, I like him, yeah. But it's just, it feels so weirdly empty because he's just walking along just at the side of the beach and he's like. Never have I ever heard a statement.
Starting point is 00:46:34 I saw a girl. Yeah, but never have I ever heard a statement from someone that, like that's such a straight dude perspective because he's so incredibly good looking. I loved that scene. Is he? And so many of my friends are like Prince Eric in the cartoon was like their original childhood crush. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Mason's was made Marianne. Yeah. That's not true. That was you. That was you. No, but so that whole song, because that's not in the original. That was written by Lin-Manuel Miranda for the musical, which I think is really cool. I know.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I know because there was a rap in this. So I recognised. Yeah. But I, so I think is really cool. I know because there was a rap in this. So I recognised. Yeah. But I actually really enjoyed it. I liked the new songs and I love that bit where he's like singing on the clifftop and it's about wild ocean adventures. See, I just felt it felt really weirdly empty because he's just sort of like just walking down a path and then he's on a boat suddenly
Starting point is 00:47:22 and then he leaves. But he's like singing about like wanting this girl that he can't find. So are there fewer songs in this than there are in the original? Because it feels like there's more. Yeah, and I think that's such a gamble because I've got a headline here, Claire, that I thought I'd bring up. Oh, interesting. I think it was by Rolling Stone.
Starting point is 00:47:42 It says, the headline is, The Little Mermaid remake boasts one of the worst Disney songs ever. And then under that it says, Offending song in Disney's live-action adaptation of Little Mermaid is a rap-heavy number from lyricist Lin-Manuel Miranda and it isn't the only dud. And then I went to read the rest of it and it was paywall and I went, eh.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Whatever. You shan't get me to click and put in my credit card details. No, no, no. Look, I even loved the set. I didn't mind them. I thought it was fun. I liked the way that they kind of combined the set. The set they, like, filmed in Italy,
Starting point is 00:48:14 but the island scene is, like, the Caribbean mixed with, like, the 1800s, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I loved that, and I liked that rap scene. I liked when they were all doing the dancing. Like, that was new. That crab needs to chill the fuck out, man. He's just... I don't like
Starting point is 00:48:28 him. He's got a bad attitude. But he's under pressure. He's under a lot of pressure. Leave. The king's gonna kill him. The king will kill him if he doesn't... There's a lot of vague contradictory instructions and if he doesn't follow all the letter, the king's gonna just crush him. You're absolutely right. Shoot him with that hot trident or whatever. Do you know
Starting point is 00:48:44 what, though? I normally hate... You can't come back from being shot with a hot trident unless you. Do you know what, though? I normally hate CGI. You can't come back from being shot with a hot trident unless you're the king, in which case you do. Oh, wait, spoilers. It's fine. Everybody's seen. Spoilers from now. Everybody's seen A Little Mermaid.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Yeah, that's right. Do you know what? I usually hate CGI animals, but I love them. I even love the crab. Do you think they got the balance right? Yeah, I really do. Because as we've discussed with, like, The Lion King, if you make it too realistic and they're trying to emote,
Starting point is 00:49:07 you don't get anything. Just like blank cat faces looking at each other. On the other way, like. Freaks. Yeah, exactly. Flounder is, because I've not seen that one, but Flounder's a big yellow fish, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And he's very, and if you go too far in that, people are like, yeah, right, what is that? Freaks. But this version, he's just sort of pale. He is pale, isn't he? Yeah. I actually think he was great. I mean, look, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I don't know what it was about the CJ creatures. I thought I would hate it when I saw Sebastian pop up. And then he started talking. I feel like they got the balance right. Like his face is friendly enough and human enough without being creepy that you actually believe that he's talking as a character. I was like at one point, I'm like, that believe that he's talking as a character. Still needs to chill out. I was like at one point, I'm like, that crab looks delicious actually.
Starting point is 00:49:49 What a roar. I think that was why he was great because he was quite chubby as a crab. No, I'd cook him. I'd cook him, I'd boil him. And he'd go, oh, no, Mon. And I'd be like, yes, this is happening. Sorry, Mon. You had your chance. Hey, here's a question.
Starting point is 00:50:00 In the original, is there a scene where Ariel is given a flower and she eats the flower? I don't think there's that market scene isn't in it at all, right? Because in Aquaman, Mira is given a flower and she eats the flower. And I'm like, okay, was that a reference to the original? Because then I'm like, oh, is that a reference to the original? That's a great question. I think she does eat a flower.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Okay. I don't think it's in the market scene, but I think she does eat a flower. She does eat a flower. Okay. I don't think it's in the market scene, but I think she does eat a flower. All right. A little mermaid. Around the same time or similar to when she, like, uses the fork to try and give herself a little hairstyle.
Starting point is 00:50:32 James is very disappointed in the kiss. I've got two things that I want to say that I was disappointed in. These are the things that I was looking out for. There's a moment at the end in the cartoon where Ursula transforms into, like, the beautiful woman with the voice to trick Eric. And he's like, I don't know about this, but I'm confused. It's sort of different in the movie. Eric's less of a character I feel like in the animated one
Starting point is 00:50:53 than he is in this. They give him more to do. And by that I mean this movie's longer. But there's a moment when Ursula like bursts out. She like unfolds. She burst-alers. She burst-alers out. You know, it's like a real kind of horrific kind of like.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah. Like a gross kind of like thwack. Out of this woman that just looks like that. And She burst-alers. She burst-alers out. You know, it's like a real kind of horrific kind of like a gross kind of like thwack. Out of this woman that just looks like that. Yeah, and they didn't do that. There was a cloud and then she was like, ha-ha, I'm a squid or whatever. So that bit I was like, boo, I was looking forward to that. The other bit was when they were doing the Kiss the Girl song. There's a moment in the cartoon where the oar comes up and there's a bunch
Starting point is 00:51:20 of frogs doing harmonies on the oars. Okay. And I'm like, I just want to see some frogs be doing. Okay, but don't the main cast do it? Yeah, but Okay. And I'm like, I just want to see some frogs. Okay. But don't the main cast do it? Yeah, but what if the frogs may send? I didn't want these other ones. I wanted that bird that could breathe underwater and the crab. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:51:34 There were some things in this where I just thought visually was like, that's not interesting. I know she was like looking to escape from under the sea and then Sebastian's like, under the sea is great. And I'm like, this place sucks. Your chairs are coral. Everything's boring. The only interesting stuff is the stuff that, like, fell out of a ship.
Starting point is 00:51:49 This is not a good place, which I guess is the point, right? But I thought that was beautiful. I loved the way they redid under the sea. I thought the way that they used all those different sea creatures were amazing. Still look like shit, I would have been. What? No, I mean, like, as a place to live.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I can see why she was like, I don't like this. Yeah, I mean the thing about it is that every second scene under the water is dim and sad looking and awful and filled with horrible sea creatures. And it's like up the top is always nice. Way better. That's where the song should go. Up the top is always nice.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I think also, because a lot of the clips they released beforehand and images were really dark but it's not as dark as you'd think you can see stuff I found it quite vibrant a lot of the time I can't remember when I was going there's that quote, I can't remember who it's from but it's from a director, or somebody, doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:52:38 but somebody asked him, hey where's the lighting coming from this scene, like why is this scene so well lit at night or whatever and he's like, where's the music coming from this scene? Like why is this scene so well lit at night or whatever? And he's like, where's the music coming from? Like I feel like it's the same thing. Like give me a better lit movie, you know what I mean? I don't want natural lighting in this live action Disney movie.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Just make it brighter, it's fine. I just really didn't notice that at all. I really enjoyed the contrast between the two and I also really enjoyed how when they were building the set, they wanted to make sure that all of the merpeople were dressed in, you know, their costumes are all from things that would be found under the ocean, which is why they had to use shark teeth for the crown. Yeah, six-pack rings. All the different mermaids had such really particular,
Starting point is 00:53:22 I just heard that. You're very funny, Mason. Aesthetic, like, you know, and so I found that beautiful too and so did my daughter. Like each tail was really different. I loved the way that the mer tails had like extra fairy fins. The last thought I had was when they get older, do bits fall out of their fin?
Starting point is 00:53:43 Does it thin out? And whatever, not girls. Yeah. Yeah, I like there was like a sheen of like, older, do bits fall out of their fin? Does it thin out? Whatever. Not gills. Yeah. I like there was like a sheen of like you'd see it on their skin sometimes in certain light. You'd see like there was like a scaly pattern on them, which I like. I don't know how many mothers try and like how many different mothers there were.
Starting point is 00:53:58 What a multicultural family from all corners of the globe. Yeah. I mean, I also really love that, even though I know if you think about it too hard, who knows. Oh, it's fine. Who cares? It's a magic world and whatever. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:54:10 I do think it was funny what you said about how when King Triton comes out of the ocean. So in Underwater, Harvey Arbott, and by the way, this is his second Underwater movie he did. It was in Salazar's Revenge. Oh, yeah, it was. The fifth or sixth Pirates movie or whatever it was called. Dead Man's Underwater, whatever it was called.
Starting point is 00:54:29 So he played an underwater man with underwater hair. A lot of underwater hair in this CGI happening. Yeah, how do you, do you think they did this bald cap and then redid the hair? Definitely. Okay, all right. Because none of this was underwater, really, except for the stuff where they come out.
Starting point is 00:54:41 So underwater he's got like, he's like his armour on and he's got his big glowing trident that can shoot people. His hair's kind of billowing out. It's billowing out. And there's a moment at the end, like towards the end of the movie, where he just pops his head out of the ocean. Just loops out. And it just looks like Javier Bardem in like a wet wig glued to his head.
Starting point is 00:54:57 In a kiddie pool. Yeah, he's just like... And it looks way less majestic when he's out of water. Yeah, he should have emerged on like a shark or something, you know, but no. Just like blah, blah. And also that way they don't have to do his. Abs.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Well, they don't have to do his abs, they don't have to do his merman tail in that scene. Like they save it if he's just sort of half of him is out of the water. That's also from the original though. And I know. No, I liked it. I thought it was funny. I cried in that bit. Like which I, I know I can't. I think it was funny. I cried in that bit.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I know, I can't. I think it's father-daughter stuff that gets me. And there is something really beautiful about him deciding to let her just do what she wants and be who she wants and accept her for who she is. And, I mean, there's a lot of sort of feminist kind of commentary around this film. Obviously Ariel's voice gets stolen from her in the original
Starting point is 00:55:47 and she like gives up her identity for a man. Like that's one way of looking at it. Yeah. Also the siren song is cheating as far as I'm concerned. I agree. In terms of like. You're saying Ursula was right to take it away. I'm saying it's a trick and you shouldn't be able to do it.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. You shouldn't be able to do it to lure men to the, oh, maybe you could. Maybe you can lure men to the desk. Yeah, that. Yeah. You shouldn't be able to do it to lure men to the – oh, maybe you could. Maybe you can lure men to the desk. Yeah, that's fine. But you shouldn't be able to do it to make men fall in love with you. Yeah, that's not uncool. It's uncool Ariel, it's uncool Ursula is all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:56:15 But there is another interesting school of thought. Get a personality is what I'm saying. Yeah, man. Yeah. I could say the same for you, Mason. Whoa. I have one. It's called my beard.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I don't have to develop a personality further because I've got this beard. Oh, that's why it's just getting longer and longer. That's right, exactly. Now it all makes sense. That's right. I see. No, so the other school of thought around that is that actually King Triton is the one that is blocking Ariel from being who she wants to be
Starting point is 00:56:41 and constantly silencing her and not listening to her. Totally, yeah. And so the fact that then she goes to Ursula who is a sea witch who's been kind of ostracised but is actually single and like a senior woman and powerful. Ready to mingle. Single and ready to mingle with some red fish paint on her lips or something when she does.
Starting point is 00:57:00 There's that. There's this kind of thought process there that actually Ursula allows her the avenue to be able to see what she actually wants. I definitely had that thought in this. It's like, yeah, I know she's like wants to get the trot and to shoot people or whatever. But there is an element of like she's actually giving Ariel
Starting point is 00:57:15 with like caveats, obviously for evil purposes, but things that like her dad wasn't willing to give her. Yeah, absolutely. Probably buy her cigarettes too. And what I think when I watched this was as a kid I always wanted to be Ursula. I loved that song. I think it's such a great song.
Starting point is 00:57:32 You want to give kids cigarettes. I definitely do. That has been my dream and that's why I had two. And when they're old enough I will give them. Nice. Nice. Excellent. Start buying them now because the prices are going to go up.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Oh, yeah, I've been investing. By low, yeah. Yes, for the last ten years the prices are going to go up. Oh, yeah. I've been investing. By low. Yes, for the last 10 years. You see there's a cigarette chest in our bedroom ready for them. I've got like little lighters with their names in them. Oh, that's great. On their 13th birthday.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Terrible. God. It's your idea. Yeah. One of my songs on my album is just that, talking about kids smoking. Be who you want to be. Anyway, no smoke terrible never smoked never understood it it's cool because it's cool the only time i ever smoked was one time when i was 14 at the bus stop one of my friends gave me her cigarette and i didn't know what to do with it so i just kind of like tried to take a drag i
Starting point is 00:58:21 copped over and then i just held it while it burnt all the way to the nub and burnt my fingers because I didn't want to drop it. Where did she go? Well, she went to go talk to a boy and by the time she came back, I was just holding like the nub with like burnt fingers. Wow. She was like, what are you doing with the cigarette? I'm like, I didn't know what to do. You gave it to me.
Starting point is 00:58:36 That's on her. Yeah, true, exactly. Anyway. And they're married now though. Yeah, so, you know, it was worth it. It was worth it. Oh, what a nerd. In a good way.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Anyway, what I will say about Ursula is that she, not only was she like a woman and an older woman as a villain, which obviously in a lot of the Disney movies they paint older women, particularly single older women as villains, like Maleficent, all the things, very problematic. Which we all like here. Correct? That's correct, yeah. Cool. Good, excellent. So we're on the things, very problematic. Which we all like here, correct? Yeah, that's correct.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, excellent. So we're all on the same page, yeah. Correct. She's also like voluptuous as well, like a totally different body type to all the kind of stereotypical Disney princesses. She has this incredible kind of vocal rasping kind of sexy song
Starting point is 00:59:19 for a woman in that kind of role. And then she has so much agency. So it's just it's really think, interesting for her to be painted as that villain the whole time. And then if you look at it through a feminist lens, you can kind of see it in a different way and you wonder, well, why is she so angry? Maybe because she's had that power stolen from her
Starting point is 00:59:40 and not been given her appropriate kind of. Can I ask you, from a feminist perspective, do you think it was cool when she got stabbed with a whole ship? I kind of do, actually. I wanted her to be, she looked too, like, not real. I wanted her to be, like, actually, like, big Melissa McCarthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she looked too spectral. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:57 But, again, kids movie. Is that how she dies in the original? Yeah, man, she gets a ship. I think that was good, though, because it's a kids movie and if she was too realistic, then she gets, Melissa McCarthy gets stabbed in the guts. I think that was good though because it's a kid's movie and if she was too realistic then she gets, Melissa McCarthy gets stabbed in the guts. I think the little mermaid should have said, you got shipped.
Starting point is 01:00:11 That's an expression the children ship. We ship you. We ship you with a ship. You and the ship. Here's a question. Why don't you get married to this ship? Oh, you can't. You're dead.
Starting point is 01:00:20 You're dead. Here's a question. Doesn't Eric kill her? Because Eric kills her in the cartoon, doesn't he? Yeah. But they change that to like she impales herself or whatever. Because she learned, the little mermaid learned to do the. Halle Bailey did that.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Oh, okay. She drove the. She learned how to steal. Oh, that's right. That's freaking sick. That's right. I forgot about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Which I really love. And that's another thing I loved about it. It's just a little shift, but I just don't think you can underestimate how powerful it is for girls to be. Women to kill women. Yeah. Exactly. No, but for women to be watching and for girls like my daughter
Starting point is 01:00:53 to be watching a movie where A, the hero is a woman of colour and B, she's not just like a damsel in distress. She has agency of her own life and she really does save the day. Yeah, she murders that woman. She does. She also saves Prince Eric as well which I think is really interesting. Doesn't she do does save the day. Yeah, she murders that woman. She does. But she also saves Prince Eric as well, which I think is really interesting. Doesn't she do that in the original? Yeah, she does, which I also loved.
Starting point is 01:01:12 She also wears that hat or gives him a hat. He gets his hat, a new look. He does. He gets a new look on an angle or something, a little straw hat. Here's a question for you. This is mermaid lore. So she's the sister of Triton. Ursula. Ursula is. Okay. Why is mermaid lore. So she's the sister of Triton. Ursula. Ursula is.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Why is she a squid? Is she actually his sister though? That's what they said, right? I think so. I mean, I'm assuming it's some kind of dark magic situation. She probably used to be a dolphin. The top half was a dolphin. Bottom half was a squid.
Starting point is 01:01:43 That's right. I love it. I think so. That's right. I love it. I think so. I think you're right. I mean, is it a squid or an octopus? A squid. I think they changed it. It was one in the first one and they changed it for this one, I believe.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I feel like it looks more like a squid in this, but I don't know. Because I'm squid kind of. Yeah, I mean, octopus. I looked at a cave. Yeah. It was cool. It was really cool. All the different cupboards.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yeah, man. Looking for stuff. Yeah, very good. Love looking for stuff. Here's a question for both of you. Why is it that some of the fish can talk and sing songs and so forth? Because some are for eating. Oh, like the shark?
Starting point is 01:02:13 Like the shark wasn't a guy, was he? The shark was not a guy. As far as I know, he was just a shark, right? Maybe he is, though. He might be a guy, just an angry guy. Just an angry guy. Get out of my way! He's one of those guys where you take too long at the pedestrian crossing.
Starting point is 01:02:27 He's like, get out of the way. You're like, jeez, man. I'll eat you. Here's a question for you. Do you know the character that was not present in this new movie that was in the original with his own song? His own song? Yeah, and it has a similar sort of theme as you were just talking about, Maceo, with fish own song. His own song? Yeah, and it has a similar like sort of theme
Starting point is 01:02:45 as you were just talking about, Maceo, with like fish and things. No, no idea. No idea. Pivotal, pivotal, core, core character. Pivotal core. Pivotal core. No, do you remember the song Le Poisson, Le Poisson, he, he, he, ho, ho, ho.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I do very well remember that. Yeah, that guy with the cleaver. Like, hack them in two. Yeah, he's a chef. Chef Louis. Chef Louis is no longer present. Is he a man or is he a fish? He's a man. He's a French chef in the castle and he sings that Le Poisson song
Starting point is 01:03:17 where he's just like chopping fish all the time. Sick. And Flounder and Sebastian are like watching and it's terrifying. I think Sebastian is particularly. He keeps like almost getting killed by Chef Louis. That delicious crap. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Anyway, I don't know why they chose that. Maybe because it would be awful to like watch Fish get killed. Continue being beheaded, which is like what's in it. Also, is it racist? I guess it probably is. I don't know, man. It can't be racist to the French. It doesn't count.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Fair enough. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe. I mean, I really liked that song. So, you know. It's a fun thing. Probably, I don't know. Maybe. I mean, I really liked that song. So, you know. It's a fun thing probably, I vaguely remember. Why not put it in?
Starting point is 01:03:49 Look, for me, this is not for me, right? I get why you like it. I get why people do seem to like it in general. Al-San liked it. He was like, yeah, it was good. But, like, just not for me. He did say to me, he was like, it was a little weird. That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:04:03 He's like, I liked it, but it was a little weird. I like it. To be fair, it is a bit weird. Maybe he said it was a little weird. That's what he said. He's like, I liked it, but it was a little weird. I'm like, it to be fair is a bit weird. Maybe he said it was a little weird because it didn't have superheroes in it. That might be the. I mean. Or Transformers. Transformers Rise of the Beasts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I liked it, but it was weird that it wasn't Transformers Rise of the Beasts, Dad. I felt like that too, actually. Also, I should point out my cinema experience. I came in there, sat in a chair. Then we left to go to the bathroom, came back in, and a woman and her daughter were sitting right next to us. And she's like, what's your seat numbers? And I'm like, these are my seat numbers.
Starting point is 01:04:30 These are my seats, whatever. She's like, oh, cool. Oh, where's my seat number? And she shows me her phone. And I'm like, okay, you're on the other end. And she went down and the people were in her seat. And then she came back and she sat down next to me. And I'm like, they said they couldn't move because someone was in their seat.
Starting point is 01:04:43 And that's the problem, isn't it? That is the problem. You're absolutely right. And she was like, yeah, that's, they said they couldn't move because someone was in their seat. Nice. And that's the problem, isn't it? That is the problem. You're absolutely right. And she was like, yeah, that's what they said. And then a whole lot of other people came in into the same role as us. Incredible. There were so many kids up and down and whatever. It was like, why cinema was chaos.
Starting point is 01:04:56 But also I was like, I don't care. It's a kid's movie. Plus you had your seats. Yeah, I had my seats. You would care more if they were in your seats because they'd be like, well, actually somebody's in our seats. And you'd be like, well, you get them to move out of your seats. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I hate that when it's like three people deep because that first person was just like, I don't understand anything. Do you know what the worst thing is? I used to work in a movie theatre. When the lights go down, the actual film has started, so it's not in the trailers, and someone comes to you and says, someone's sitting in my seats and you have to get a torch and go in there and look at the people's ticket and be like,
Starting point is 01:05:31 it's like you need to make. And then the dominoes start to happen. Yeah, exactly. And then you're pinging everywhere and it depends. Sometimes there's usually in a cinema at least two to four seats that we always kept free. For the king. For the king.
Starting point is 01:05:43 No, but really they were called like comp seats or some special name in case like fancy people came. For the king. For the king. No, but really they were called like comp seats or some special name in case like fancy people came. Like the king. For King Kong. Like the king, exactly. And he needs four seats. He's big. He does or just King Kong.
Starting point is 01:05:54 He would need a lot of seats. No, King Kong is the joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So go on. I mean, God, who needs. I know I really am the third wheel in this scenario, aren't I? This isn't yes and. This is a no-stop show.
Starting point is 01:06:05 It's a no situation, yeah. Wrong. Really sensing that. That's how you go on, yeah. Anyway, it's the worst. And then you have to sort of sort everyone out. And if there's someone already sitting in the comp seats and you're whispering. Yeah, and you get one person who's like, I'm not moving.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I don't want to move. What if Godzilla was in the comp seats? Whoa. Then we'd see some trouble, wouldn't we? There you go. And they're always in the best spot as well in the house. Yeah. So you don't want to give it to the people that are like grumbling
Starting point is 01:06:28 about moving but then you kind of have to because everyone's kicking up a fuss because they won't move. Go down. So that's a lesson for all the grumps out there. Yeah. Sit in the best seats. Yeah, do whatever. Just complain and you'll get the King Kong seats.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Completely agree. I thought you were going to be like sitting in your proper seats. Mason, imagine if King Kong came in. Oh, you. Yeah, that's the stuff right there. I've never seen you so animated. That's great. That's good stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Anyways, are we saying best movie ever is what we're doing? I thought it was. Given that we must pick one or the other, I'll say best movie ever. I didn't hate it. No, same. And as a remake, it was like they actually thought about it and changed some stuff in interesting ways. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Do you think they've learned their lessons from previous live action remakes or do you think it's just a coincidence that this is slightly better than some of the other ones? Rob Marshall's a good director though, right? He's directed things. He sounds like a guy who's had a storied history of directing things that are pretty good, a Rob Marshall. Oh, yeah, he directed Chicago.
Starting point is 01:07:26 He directed Mary Poppins Returns, which I really liked. I really liked that too, yeah. He directed Pirates of the Caribbean 4. He directed Into the Woods. I loved that as well, actually. Because you love James Corden. No, but I don't mind him, but you seem to really hate him. No, I don't hate him.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Claire, were you in a performance of Into the Woods? I certainly was. That's right, we saw that, didn't we hate him. Claire, were you in a performance of Into the Woods? I certainly was. That's right. We saw that, didn't we? Oh, God, I was wearing a terrible wig and false eyelashes. We don't remember that. We don't remember that. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I played Cinderella's evil stepmother. Sounds like real life. Real life. All right, cool. We've got those tour dates for life. People want to check them out. Yes. Over the early July at this point.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Correct, yeah. London, 2nd July. Dublin, 6th of July. Yeah. And then Edinburgh on the 9th of July. Edinburgh. She totally will come. It's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 01:08:13 You're going to have a fried marshmallow? No, I don't want to have a heart attack. But are you going to have one? Disgusting. Yes or no? No. What is wrong with you? I've had one.
Starting point is 01:08:22 They're pretty good. Really? I wouldn't want to have one every day, but I've never had one. Oh, no. Are they a thing in Scotland? Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:29 The Scottish. No, I'm taking it back. No shows in Edinburgh. Oh, no. Oh, Mason, you did this. Unless they ban the fried musbar. What do they, what do they batter it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Then they put it in a deep fryer. Yes. It also ruins the oil. Do they roll it in something as well? Sugar. Like cinnamon and it? Yeah. Then they put it in a deep fryer. Yes. It also ruins the oil. And then do they roll it in something as well? Sugar. Like cinnamon and sugar? Yeah. That is the worst thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 01:08:50 What happens to the Mars bar? You eat it, Claire. It goes in your tum-tum. Then you do a weird turd. Or never again. I imagine it would look like a giant Mars bar. Yes, absolutely. Now, you've spoiled fried mask masks for yourself.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Yeah, Claire. Honestly. Now, you don't have to, but do you want to stick around for the what we're reading, what we're going to read segment? It's basically a suggestible hour, the less successful podcast where we talk about things that we've been reading and watching and doing. I'll leave it to you, Claire. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:19 That never happens. People are always honoured to stay. That's right, yeah. That's right. No one wants me around. Everyone wants to go back to the lovely banter between the two of you. All right, well, if you say so. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I bet we'll get emails being like, I wonder what Claire was watching and that. She's rude. No, that's all right. I will stay. I will stay. Okay. Under sufferance.
Starting point is 01:09:38 You just have to say, please stay, Claire. It would be our honour to have you. I just really wanted to go back and watch the Ed Sheeran documentary. Go watch the Ed Sheeran documentary. We can say it there. We've done it. Now you can go. No, I want to listen to what you're going to say.
Starting point is 01:09:51 You're not going to like the thing I'm talking about. I know you never do, though. That's the premise of our show. It's just a ball. You can go, for real. No, I'm sitting here. Well, now it's all good for me. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:02 You know what it's time for, Mason? It's time for what we're reading. What we're going to read. Yeah, here it is. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? So we explained it already. You're watching the Ed Sheeran documentary, are you?
Starting point is 01:10:21 What's it like? I know. I only just started that. Okay. It's pretty good. Yeah? Yeah, I liked it. Do it like? I know. I only just started that. Okay. It's pretty good. Yeah? Yeah, I liked it. Do you like him?
Starting point is 01:10:27 Yeah. We have a friend who you know. It's Ed Sheeran. It's Ed Sheeran. Edward Sheeran. Yes. Whenever someone like Ed Sheeran pops up or like a guy who's kind of not traditionally attractive.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Oh, yes. Now I understand completely. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. You can edit this out. Edit out the name comics. But we all know who it is. We all know who it is. So he's like there's no way that that guy would like get the women
Starting point is 01:10:53 that he does or like all the money that he had if he wasn't, you know, if he wasn't a musician. And it's like. But he is. Yeah, but that's the point. They're like they're really talented and people like them. Yeah, exactly. He wouldn't get the women he does if he
Starting point is 01:11:08 wasn't charismatic and he could write beautiful songs about them. Well, he is and he does. Is that because he's really bitter about it? I think there is an element of that. I'm just like man, they could have made me. Yeah, but you know what is really interesting about this doco and what I love, obviously,
Starting point is 01:11:24 is seeing someone's creative process. But he says in it, but you know what is really interesting about this, Doc? And what I love obviously is like seeing someone's creative process. Sure. But he says in it and you can tell that he was so determined from the very beginning as a teenager that that is what he wanted to do. It wasn't like an accident. Someone didn't just see him playing in a pub and go, oh, this guy's talented. Oh, this guy's got it.
Starting point is 01:11:38 No, he saw people doing like writing songs and singing and he was like, I want to do that. They're gigging once a week. I'm going to gig three nights a week. And when they won't have me at the folk club, I'm going to go and do a hip-hop night. And when they won't have me at the hip-hop night, I'm going to go and play a jazz club.
Starting point is 01:11:54 And that's why when you watch him. Once they've kicked me out of every club in the city and I'm banned from everyone, I'll be the biggest star in the world. Exactly. No, but he just busked as well. He just did gig after gig after gig after gig. But what I think is really interesting. Gig economy, you know.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Anyway, but when you, then you look at what he's doing and he was just writing thousands of songs, right, and you can hear that he also does have a background then in hip-hop because of the way his lyrics move really quickly. I had never really thought about before why his songs are so catchy and there is an element of that as well. He is also very charismatic. He's like short and unassuming.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like he's not very good looking, right? But he sort of also kind of is. We all agree that he wouldn't have, like he's also talented, that women wouldn't like him, yeah? We all agree. Is that right? He wouldn't be famous and popular if he didn't have any of his abilities, right?
Starting point is 01:12:46 Anyway, it's just also incredibly heartwarming. I've only watched the first episode but I've heard from friends as well that it's really beautiful to watch and also a really great reminder because you think of someone like Ed Sheeran and you go, biggest pop star in the world, oh, yeah, probably been made by a label or something like that. But the slog that he did to work to the point where he was writing so many songs and then 18 became this giant hit and suddenly he went
Starting point is 01:13:12 from playing pubs to playing stadiums. But it wasn't an accident. He's the anti-Bieber. I guess so. I assume. I don't know. Didn't Usher find Bieber on YouTube or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I mean, that was part of it. He was coming to the fore just as like music was starting to go on YouTube and become more successful in that way in writing music. So just really, really interesting. I think also people dismiss pop songs and pop music like that. But to write a song that sounds really simple but that everyone loves and is so catchy is incredibly difficult. Probably.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Anyway, it's great. I'm enjoying it. It's on Disney+. Great. I won't watch that, but I could. Mason, what are you up to? I've been playing a video game. Cool.
Starting point is 01:13:54 It's on Switch. It's called Warhammer 40,000 Boltgun. And if you can see it here, it's like an old school, like Doom style shooter. I love that. But it's like pixel art kind of. It's set in the horrible Warhammer 40,000 universe, but it's just kind of like a throwback shooty, shooty game.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Is it really good? I like it. It's a lot of fun. Yeah, cool. Yeah, it's pretty good. Great. It's like Minecraft with murders in it. Yeah, so Minecraft.
Starting point is 01:14:21 That's cool, yes. Yeah, that's right. It can be. How many dollars? I think it was like 20 bucks. That's very reasonable. Is there a physical copy? Because I like my games. I think that's cool, yes. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. It can be. How many dollars? I think it was like 20 bucks. That's very reasonable. Is there a physical copy? Because I like my games.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I don't think so. I like my games like I like my women. Physical copies on the Switch. What? That doesn't make any sense. James, you should have waited. If you were going to say something that's controversial and awful, you should have let Claire leave.
Starting point is 01:14:44 And you know she doesn't listen to our podcast. You could have got away with it. What do you mean? Did you just compare me to a switch? No, it was just a cool joke that people like. I mean, you've got to admit, Claire, it was a cool joke that people like. I don't know if cool comes into it, but, you know, it was a joke. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:15:03 It was a joke. I got a tweet here from Robbie G, and this leads into what I'm going to talk about, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Have you guys read Ambassadors by Mark Millar? The recent issue features the ambassador from Australia, and he's awesome. You should check it out.
Starting point is 01:15:15 I haven't, but Mark Millar, who, have you ever seen the movie Kick-Ass? I think you've seen the movie. Wanted. The Kingsman. The Kingsman. I did see that. He wrote those comics.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Colin Fett. Yeah, Colin Fett. Oh, yeah, yeah, he kills all those people in that church. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you saw that Kingsman. I did see that. He wrote those comics. Colin Firth. Yeah, Colin Firth. Oh, yeah, yeah. He kills all those people in that church. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You saw that. Yeah, I've seen that. He just improvised that.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Yeah. They're like, should he talk? The director's like, he should talk his way out of this. And he's like, no, I'd rather kill all these churchgoers. I'm Colin Firth. That's what I'm really like. That's what he said. That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Yeah, so. But so he's rebooting a bunch of new stuff, including, you know, this Mason, but Nemesis. He created this character called Nemesis who's basically like, he dresses like Batman except he's all in white and he's rebooting a bunch of new stuff, you know this, Mason, but Nemesis. He created this character called Nemesis who's basically like he dresses like Batman except he's all in white and he's got the skills of Batman except he's awful. So he rebooted that character because he died in the previous version. But what happens, and this is a spoiler alert for the end of Nemesis,
Starting point is 01:15:58 it leads into the Wanted universe, which, Claire, you'll know as the universe where superheroes used to exist but all the bad guys banded together and killed them all in the 80s. So the nemesis universe is actually part of this wider onto the verse. He's building his own universe. Exactly. Wow. And since he has that deal with Netflix, because he sold Miller World to Netflix, it's probably
Starting point is 01:16:18 all going to spill out onto all the other mediums, et cetera. Anyway, I thought that was interesting that that's the direction they're going to go. Now Claire is regretting sticking around for this segment, which I like. Yeah, I feel like, though, you never wanted to stick around, if I'm honest, because when she said she was going to leave, yeah, that's what I think happened. I don't know what you're referring to. I'm really enjoying all of these.
Starting point is 01:16:36 I'm making very detailed notes. So to Claire, Mark Miller, he sold. Miller. Okay, I don't know what it is. But he's sold all his properties to Netflix and they've released a bunch of them and they've all sunk without a trace basically. Correct.
Starting point is 01:16:50 One of them got cancelled mid-season I think. Jupiter's Legacy. Jupiter's Legacy got cancelled. Another thing. And everybody was like, we haven't seen this and if we had seen it, we'd think it was awful. We were the only ones who were like, it was all right. I liked it.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I thought it was pretty fun. It wasn't fun. I don't know if it was fun, but it was interesting. But we watched it. Yeah. So I pretty fun. It wasn't fun. It was fun, but it was interesting. But we watched it. Yeah. So I have a question to ask you both. I was listening to one of my podcasts with women on it. Listen to one of your own podcasts, Claire.
Starting point is 01:17:14 With women on it. Anyway, it's a really good podcast. And one of the women was talking about how there's like an AI. She has a name, Claire, one of the women. Her name is Jessie. Okay, nice. Thank you. Thank you. The the women. Her name is Jessie. Okay, nice. Thank you. The podcast is Mamma Mia Out Loud.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Cool, great. Anyway, she was talking about the thing that everyone's talking about at the moment, which is like the AI thing that can like write everything and now all the screenwriters and everyone's really terrified because now it's like writing music. We love that stuff. It's terrifying. We talk about it every week.
Starting point is 01:17:42 We love it. All of the things. Well, she was saying that now she reckons that Marvel movies are so formulaic that an IAR could very easily write them. Do you think so? I think they could write a bad one. Yeah. Very easily. I think a couple of them.
Starting point is 01:17:55 A couple of more recent ones probably. Probably could have written, yeah. I think the one that the best of the crop, I think the ones that you go, oh, I felt, like they couldn't write a Guardian. I don't think they could write a Guardian. Well, they could write a Guardian. If you put the scripts for the three Guardians movies in and said,
Starting point is 01:18:12 can you make another one, it could make one, but I don't think it would be any good. It'd be like this feels extremely derivative of the first three. And the way that it seems to be that studios would use them is they're like, can you write a script for Succession or whatever? And then they would give it to actual writers and go, hey, fix this. And so they don't get the proper payment or writing credit. But basically they do write it because you would hand somebody
Starting point is 01:18:37 like nothing, like a skeleton of an idea that a machine spat out based on ideas that you gave it that somebody else already wrote. Yeah. We love already wrote. Yeah. We love that here. Yeah, we think it's great. We think it's the future of fiction. Yeah, no, I think that, yeah, I think you're right. That's the way they want to go, just to churn one out in five minutes
Starting point is 01:18:57 with no effort. But I've been saying about this, like, if people need to be more critical of these Marvel movies and that sort of stuff. Or just that kind of like generic blockbuster. Yeah, that kind of thing generally because the more you accept it and you accept the flaws in it and the stuff that doesn't work and the stuff that falls flat, the more they're like,
Starting point is 01:19:14 well, they liked the last one and nobody complained about the last one and they still saw it. That's why there were five terrible Transformers movies in a row because they keep making a billion dollars. I fell asleep in one of those. And eventually, like a few movies down the road, the people who love Marvel movies are going to go, why was this one so bad?
Starting point is 01:19:34 Like all of a sudden I think people are going to go, oh, why was this one bad? And it's like, well, because nobody cares. You didn't care about the writing before this. And it's your fault. It's your fault, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Yeah, okay, good. Excellent. Thank you. That's answered my question.. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, good. Excellent. Thank you. That's answered my question. I do really think that I often say that to you, that like I'll watch a Marvel movie if the script is really excellent. Yeah. And they do it like the recent Guardians was awesome.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Like I think you would really like it genuinely. You like the other ones. Yeah, I love them. And I like Thor too. You love the latest Thor, which we all loved. I hated that one. And I like Thor too. We love the latest Thor, which we all loved.
Starting point is 01:20:04 I haven't done one. But, you know, that kind of really nuanced balance of really believable dialogue and heart and humour that they can capture is so amazing. But, yeah, I just so don't think a robot could really do that in the same way. No. I mean, so far it can only really do stuff that's come before. And there are genres where people go, well, I like that. I just want stuff that I've seen.
Starting point is 01:20:30 But I don't think people really do. I think a lot of people, you know, Star Wars and et cetera, I think a lot of people are like, well, we want the same thing. But I think what usually happens is somebody says, no, I'm going to do something different. And then the people who keep clamouring for the same stuff over and over again go, oh, no, actually, this is good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I think a lot of fans are like, no, we want to tell people. We want to tell the studios and the filmmakers what we want and they should make that. But I don't think most people know what they want. No. And if they actually get that, it's not very interesting. No. Yeah. We don't need an actually get that, it's not very interesting. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:08 We don't need an AI to make stuff that's already been made. We need real people to make stuff that is new and fresh. Yep. I totally agree. And there's brand management in it. Brand management. Brand sponsorships and such. Do you know what that made me think as well? I think at a deeper level that's the problem with politics too
Starting point is 01:21:22 because people think they know what they want but they often don't. They need someone to be able to say definitively. Like a dictator. No. No, but I do think. I know what you mean. You know what I mean? You want someone with a vision.
Starting point is 01:21:34 With a vision. For something good though. For the better, for the betterment of society and to then bring people along with that. I'm not saying that does sound like a dictator. No, I know what you're saying. Do you know what I mean? Because often there's just like in our country because
Starting point is 01:21:48 of the election cycles are so short. Yeah, and the new cycles are like what can I do right now that will get me like some positive word of mouth. Yeah, exactly, or up for the next election rather than what will be really good long term in 20 years and really good solid planning for our country and the future of our kids. And so I do, I know we're talking about Marvel movies, but I think that goes more broadly too because then if we just only listen,
Starting point is 01:22:16 obviously you want to be consulted and listen to what people say, but I agree that we also want leadership that is like fresh and forward thinking. Something about planting trees for generations to have shade, et cetera. Yeah, exactly. And also just isn't afraid to make choices that are not always popular but are right and good for the future. But what is right?
Starting point is 01:22:38 Oh, great question. This is it. Who knows? Philosophy. Philosophize. That is the segment of the show, though. You did it. I did it. I made it. Good. I'm going to go back to watch Ed Sheeran. Philosophize. That is the segment of the show, though. You did it. I did it.
Starting point is 01:22:45 I made it. Good. I'm going to go back to watch Ed Sheeran. Cool, man. Cool. Yeah, I'll tell all about him. You have to bleep the name. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I'll tell your friend all about him. Your old friend beep. Yeah, exactly. Beeping at a rude word. I'll just send screenshots of him and say, handsome man. Yeah, what do you think? Yeah, what do you think? All right, thank you for coming, Claire.
Starting point is 01:23:05 My pleasure. Thank you so much. Bye. Oh, I also watch James. Oh, yeah? I watch the YouTube video. What is it? It's by a YouTube channel called Power Pack.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Yeah. And it's about a Doom mod called My House. Have you seen this? No. It's about a really weird Doom mod. Okay. That's right in your wheelhouse, Claire. Claire is leaving.
Starting point is 01:23:20 She's just nodding as if that's interesting. I'm going to add this to my. Yeah, that's they use that song. They use that song. So it's what is it? Is it? What's the YouTube channel called? It's called Power Pack.
Starting point is 01:23:35 P-A-K. Check that out. All right. It's got five million views at this point. But I will check it out. Cool, man. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:23:43 It's about a really weird doom mod and it's real weird. That is cool. Should we move to the next segment of the show? Let's do that. It's called Letters. Yeah. It's got a letters theme. I bet.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Bye, Claire. Bye, Claire. The classic one was letters, oh, letters. We love you, some letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do that as... Who was that? Who?
Starting point is 01:24:09 The person who was in here. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, great. Anyway, if you do want to reach the show... All that unpleasantness aside... Yes, yes, yes. We've got emails and letters and so forth. And if you do want to contact us with said emails and letters,
Starting point is 01:24:23 you could hashtag weeklyplanetpod at Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Mason? Yep. What's you got in the mailbag this time? Oh, I've got some things from the mailbag. Don't you worry about it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:34 If you were like, are we going to let this Maryland and Virginia drop? No. We're not going to let it drop. We've opened a can of worms and we love it, James. I love it personally. I love when other states get involved as well. If you're adjacent to any of those, if you're adjacent to Maryland or Virginia and you're like, where do you get in on this, let us know.
Starting point is 01:24:53 We'd appreciate this. But this is from Jackson. I sent a spin-off podcast in the works, Mason. Yeah, yeah. It's called Every State in America Hates Each Other and We Love It. That's what we'd call it. It's from Jackson. Maryland drivers, hi, Weekly Planet Pod.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Marylander here, and I'd like to betray my people by letting you know anyone who says Virginia drivers are worse is lying and biased. I wouldn't say Virginia drivers are lovely little angels of the road, but Maryland drivers are unhinged and everyone in Maryland knows it, especially if you're driving anywhere in the Baltimore area. My dad always fondly described to me as Baltimore driving, which essentially consists of taking any opportunity on the road,
Starting point is 01:25:27 no matter how slim, to get to your location slightly faster. That said, if you're embedded into the Maryland driver hive mind, it does have a sort of internal logic and rules, none of which necessarily line up with actual traffic laws, so that much is worth noting. Thanks, Maryland native ratting out his people for their scary road etiquette. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:25:43 So that's exciting, isn't it? I didn't think, I thought, you know thought American state pride would never cause that to happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. There's rats in the – I mean, if this is real, you know? Oh, that's true. Oh, you think maybe this is maybe like a fake –
Starting point is 01:25:58 This is a Virginian being like – That's like, oh, I'm from here. I'm from here and actually we all suck actually. We're rats as well. We suck at driving and we're rats. We're rats. Oh, I didn't even think about that, but that's incredible, James. This guy's probably a fake rat.
Starting point is 01:26:15 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, wow. Oh, he's real? He might be real. We don't have any way of knowing. He might be a real rat. Yeah. One of those classic Baltimore real rats. If you are this fake rat or real, send us a photo of you and your flag.
Starting point is 01:26:26 State flag. State flag and today's newspaper. Yeah. No, because then you'll be able to buy it. Yesterday's newspaper. Oh, yeah. So from before we read the email, because otherwise he could just go and buy a newspaper. And it'll say Baltimore news and the headline will be the wire stuff still going on.
Starting point is 01:26:44 All that wire stuff, all those crimes in the wire still going. I haven't seen it but I thought they would have got on top of it by the end. They mostly did but then the main guy was like, I mean sure we got the wire going but I think there's still going to be some more crimes in the future and we'll have to watch out for that. Us here at the wire, you know? Yeah. Where we are.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Live and work. We live and work there. We live in our bunk beds at The Wire, you know? Yeah. Where we live and work. We live and work there. We live in our bunk beds at The Wire, which is what we call our police station, The Wire. Well, that's great, Mason. It is great, I think. Got this from Nicholas Sandberg who says, hashtag weeklyplanetpod.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Hey, guys. Now that you wrapped the Fast movies for Caravan of Garbage, will you be coming the last entries in the series in the following years before Fast 11 and 12? Yes. We'll probably go eight to eight, nine Hobbs and Shaw, I'd imagine. And then 10, 11, 12 will be a whole other. That'll be its own thing.
Starting point is 01:27:35 It'll be a whole other kettle of worms. If we even are alive by the time that happens. That's right. And speaking of Vin Diesel, Riddick 4 is on its way. Does that mean you will cover the Riddick movies for Caravan of Garbage in the future? Potentially. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:46 And what about this? Lastly, who do you expect will cameo in The Flash? Will we get a Bale, a Clooney, a Dean Cain, a Digital Reeve and West? Greetings from Sweden. I know there's been some stuff that's leaked that I haven't seen yet. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:59 All out, it seems, by people are excited about who or what and whatever. They're excited or they're resigned or they're angry. Yeah. Or they're like, oh, of course. Typical. Oh, typical. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Typical DC. I can't wait for this Batman movie to come out. That's right. Yeah. Oh, dear. Yeah. Here's an email. Marilyn versus Virginia.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Oh, my God. Is this going to be every week forever now? Maybe. I want to get some dirt. I want to get this to get real mean. Real grubby with it. Real grubby. Daniel says, hey, you got mates.
Starting point is 01:28:30 I'm a native Marylander now living in Virginia, and I believe I can objectively say that Virginia drivers are worse. You see, Virginia drivers were never on our radar prior to moving here. We were always more worried about Ohio and Pennsylvania. Oh, my God. I know, right? Typical. Yeah. But Virginia drivers consistently have this nasty habit of pulling up to stop signs
Starting point is 01:28:50 at full speed like they're just going to effing go for it. Only at the last second do they slam on their brakes and you never know if today will be the day. We love it here but there's just no question that Virginians are comfortable taking their lives in their hands behind the wheel. So this is a person who moved there. They moved there. From Maryland. From Maryland, yeah. I don't even know what to believe. So this is a person who moved there. They moved there.
Starting point is 01:29:05 From Maryland. From Maryland, yeah. I don't even know what to believe. Unless this guy's a rat also. This guy might also be a lying rat. What if both sides have got lying rats and they're doing cyber warfare via this podcast? This is a double psy-op is what this is.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Completely agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what to think, Mason, but I do know what to feel. And it's confusion. I'm feeling delight. Delight is good too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My goodness.
Starting point is 01:29:29 What about this one from Steve Walker, Mason? It says, hashtag weekly planet pod. With Deadpool 3 having multiverse stuff and other versions of characters like Wolverine, do you think we might finally get to see Channing Tatum on screen in his gambit, even if it's just a cameo? Yes, absolutely. Hashtag magic Cajun, yes. I think you'd do it as a goof. Yeah. Yeah, and they're all part Magic Cajun, yes. I think you do it as a goof.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Yeah. And they're all part of that friend group. Yeah, they're all friends and they hang out. It could be him and... Taylor Kitsch. No, no, no. Yeah, Taylor Kitsch, but also, who's his friend from 21 Jump Street?
Starting point is 01:29:56 Jonah Hill. Jonah Hill. He could be in it as well. He could be a different guy. I'm also Gambit. They could be two Gambits. Two Gambit boys. Two Gambits.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Yeah, the Gambit brothers. That's right, yeah. We met in the multiverse somewhere. Yeah. Now we're two good friends. Now we're good, yeah. We both Two Gambit boys. Two Gambits. Yeah, the Gambit brothers. That's right, yeah. We met in the multiverse somewhere. Yeah. Now we're two good friends. Now we're good, yeah. We both have Gambit powers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:09 That's why we're called Gambit. The cards. Yeah, that's right. That he throws. Very good. We'll always be best friends, we guarantee. That's what they'll say. Cool.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Any more? Here's one more email. Is it about that thing? No, it's a different thing. Oh, thank God. This is from Matt, who says, My fiance hated you, but now she doesn't. Woo! Hey, it's a different thing. Oh, thank God. This is from Matt, who says, my fiance hated you, but now she doesn't.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Woo! Hey guys, greetings from Philadelphia. Streets of Philadelphia. That's right. Yeah. Bruce Springsteen. Bruce Springsteen,
Starting point is 01:30:33 that's right. In January of 2020, I had my first date with a brilliant, beautiful vaccine scientist named Julia, who also happened to love movies, comic books,
Starting point is 01:30:39 and TV shows. What? Once we were official, I thought, side bonus, we can listen to Weekly Planet Pod together. That's perfect. To my horror and surprise, she didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Podcasts like the Weekly Planet just weren't for her. Still, I tried to have it playing in the background, knowing she was missing out. I even went as far as to queue it up to some of your funniest bits, which just happened to autoplay when we got in the car, but no dice. Oh my God. That's our best stuff. You went hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what's left after
Starting point is 01:31:04 that? Just the dreck. Embarrassing for us. Years later, the Caravan of Garbage on Attack of the Clones, of all things, accidentally came on and she laughed. Yes. The next day she came home and told me she'd listened to over a dozen Caravan of Garbage episodes while she was in the lab mixing up those vaccines. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:31:19 We like that. That's right. Now on our long summer car trips, I can at least split the time between you guys and those awful murder podcasts she likes love the show and my and it sounds like she's trying to get you into the murder podcast yeah yeah look at all the murders they're doing yeah this is cool this is gross gross murders yeah it's cool maybe one day you'll be like oh my god that person was beheaded and then buried dismembered and that's actually great that's actually that's my attack
Starting point is 01:31:44 of the clones caravanavan of Garbage. This is why we do the Caravan of Garbage, Mason. You pick a popular thing and then people go, ooh. Ooh, don't mind if I do. That's how you get them. Yeah. We get married August 26th. Can Julia be the official infectious disease aficionado of the podcast?
Starting point is 01:31:58 Done and done. Done and done. Thank you, Matt. Matt's not taking any roles on. That's right. Which I appreciate. He wouldn't dare. Stepping aside.
Starting point is 01:32:04 That's right. Great stuff, Mason. Anyway, that's the whole show, I think. It wouldn't dare. Stepping aside. That's right. Great stuff, Mason. Anyway, that's the whole show, I think. It is the whole show. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast. We appreciate it. We really do. From the bottom of our hearts at the bottom of the ocean.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Some people think we're ungrateful bitches. They say that, don't they? Yeah. But it's not true. Mostly our families say that to us. They say you're such ungrateful bitches. But it's not true. It's not true, mostly.
Starting point is 01:32:24 It's mostly not true. Thank you for subscribing to the podcast. For telling a friend about the podcast. For leaving a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice. James, you got some reviews there? I do. I'm just bringing them up right now. This is from Suggestive Pineapple who says, five stars.
Starting point is 01:32:39 You can just do it in an app like mentioned. Any app that you're listening to. It says con men. You're listening on Excel, Microsoft Excel. Are you? Are you. It's just con men. You're listening on Excel, Microsoft Excel. Are you? Are you? Are you? These guys are con artists. First, they endear themselves to you with weekly videos on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:32:51 and then you get older and have a job and start listening to their podcast, and you listen so much you realize you listen to every episode multiple times. Then you realize you're addicted to their content and listen to their connected podcast and guest appearances on other podcasts, and eventually cave and you pay for a subscription to where this was leading along all along big sandwich.co. Ain't that the truth, brother? What an evil plan. Five stars.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Thank you so much. And this is from Dandor93. He says, believe in yourself. Five stars. He said, I wanted to write a five star review on this podcast, but I didn't believe myself enough to do it. Then I heard Nick Mason say, I know you don't believe in yourself, but have you ever considered believing in yourself?
Starting point is 01:33:23 So here you are. Did you say that? Yeah, you can believe it, brother. So here you are. Did you say that? Yeah, you can believe it, brother. You are very inspirational. Thank you. People make those crocheted pillows with my face on them. Sometimes they have inspiring words and stuff. It says, leave a review.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Yeah, it says, leave a review, and there's a picture of my face. Like that. Folks, if you want to get into contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com you can also go to Facebook, Twitter and Bandcamp you can go to
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Starting point is 01:34:15 We could put in Sarabi and Fidel and Maisie, who are a great mates group. They do a great job over there. But also like various other things, editing, social medias, etc and so forth. Yeah, that's right. Amazing work. They do great work. They ban the bad guys.
Starting point is 01:34:30 We don't like that, though. No, we're the good guys. We never ban anybody. We're sweet angels. We never ban anybody. Folks, if you want to follow us, you can follow me at WikipediaBrand on Twitter and Nick Mose on Instagram. James is MrSundayMovies everywhere.
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Starting point is 01:35:06 What did we record recently? We recorded a commentary for a very special movie. Oh, yeah, finally. Very special and very relevant. Long time coming. That's right. An absolute favourite of everybody's and not just a specific thing that I wanted to watch, Mason.
Starting point is 01:35:16 That's right. Was it? That's exactly right. That is exactly right and correct. Thank you to the Bruton, the Basilisk and Rackham for all our musical themes. If you want to buy a T-shirt, you go to tpublic.com. I do.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Search for the Weekly Planet. Get a T-shirt, a mug or something. You got a mug, I reckon. I'm a bloody mug. Mousepad. My bloody mug. Crocheted pillow. I'm a bloody mug.
Starting point is 01:35:32 You are. It's true. You are a mug. Finally, you've admitted it. Agreed. All right. Thanks, everyone. Next week, big movie probably.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Probably a big movie. It's next week. Yeah, it's Spider-Verse, right? Nice. When's that out? Don't know. Into the Spider-Verse. It says release date. Yeah, it's Spider-Verse, right? Nice. When's that out? I don't know. Into the Spider-Verse. It says release date March 28, 2024.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Well, I think that's wrong. Let me check this out. I think that's wrong and I'm brave to say that actually. Spider-Man. What's the new one called? Across the Spider-Verse. Across the Spider-Verse. I think.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Yes. That comes out, yeah, this week. Nice. Thank God because I was like, what the freaking frick I said? You did say comes out, yeah, this week. Nice. Dude, thank God. Because I was like, what the freaking frick I said? You did say that. You said, what the freaking frick. And first of all, I said language.
Starting point is 01:36:11 It's a family show. Yeah. And second of all. Oh, God, I'm looking forward to this one. It should be good. I hope it's better than The Little Mermaid, a movie that I thought was wonderful from top to bottom. I just didn't want to admit in front of Claire.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Yeah, yeah. You got a lot. You told me a lot. You expressed a lot of your thoughts and emotions earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Off air. And then you were like, but let's make fun of Claire when she shows up. She'll say some insightful stuff about, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:34 feminism and themes and meaning and stuff. And we can go, duh. Yeah. You know? And you said yes. I did say that, yes. I agree. Yeah, because that's fun.
Starting point is 01:36:43 It's fun for us. All right, thanks, everyone. You can grab that, Jimmy, guys. We'll see you next yes. I did say that, yes. I agree. Because that's fun. It's fun for us. All right. Thanks, everyone. You can grab that, Jimmy, guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret.
Starting point is 01:37:03 The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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