The Weekly Planet - 482 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

TRANSFORMERS. MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE AND ONE IS A GORILLA. This week we talk all about the lastest Paramount/Hasbro brand movie Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts. Plus more writers strikes delays, reg...rets about Thor 4 from Chris Hemsworth, Captain America 4 gets a new name, an update on Fast X Part Deuce, Indiana Jones 5 might be okay, a trailers for the Expend4bles, a new Zelda movie from Nintendo, Superman casting and The Flash is coming whether you like it or not! Thanks for the support!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:10 Mission Impossible Delays (But Good)04:46 Thor 4 Regrets from Chris Hemsworth11:34 New Name for Captain America 413:48 Fast X's Diesel vs Momoa Update21:26 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is OK?27:25 The Expend4bles Trailer34:32 Zelda Movie Maybe Happening37:40 James Gunn Superman Casting39:16 The Flash Early Reactions43:27 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Review (spoilers 59:15 to 01:17:05)01:17:05 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:19:50 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:28 The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always, goes Nick Mason. That's right. It's great to be here. And you've brought big news. What is it? Have I? Yes! Jason. That's right. It's great to be here. And you've brought big news. What is it? Have I? Yes. Well, our big news, I think, is that we are incredibly listless right now because we went to Red Rooster before this.
Starting point is 00:01:11 We shouldn't have done it. We just packed it all in. I had a chocolate mousse. I had some cheesy chicken nuggets. Yep. And also, I had KFC earlier. You already had a dinner. I'd say this is second dinner.
Starting point is 00:01:20 You already had bad dinner. I had bad dinner. I had a bad chicken dinner already, and I was like, no, no, James loves Red Rooster. I would have had soup at home if you hadn't just told me you already had bad dinner. So you've ruined us both. Good.
Starting point is 00:01:33 My goodness. So that's the big news. Anyway, if KFC and or Red Rooster want to sponsor us. Yeah, that's right. We'll take their money. We'll talk about bad dinner. Yeah. Take your family.
Starting point is 00:01:43 They're the worst thing you've ever eaten. All right. Mason. Hello. It. Take your family. They have the worst thing you've ever eaten. All right. Mason. Hello. It's big news week. Is it? We've got a number of things to talk about, including the latest updates on the writer's strike.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Chris Hemsworth has some things to say about Marvel and his career in Stutch. We have a new name for Captain America 4. Oh, yeah, that's right. A Fast X Part 2 update Oh, is it going to streaming immediately? Is that what it is? That's part of it
Starting point is 00:02:10 Okay We've got more Indiana Jones 5 screening people who saw it Okay If only there was a word for that, but there isn't Previews? Screenings? We've got more Indiana Jones people seen it They watched it, thought of it, went in their brain Yep And then swizz, went in their brain,
Starting point is 00:02:26 and it swizzled around in their brain, and then thoughts came out as formal words. If only there was a term for that. We've got a trailer for Expend for Bulls. Oh, the Expend for Bulls. We've got Nintendo News and Zelda. We've got a little bit of a Superman update, something to do with the Flash and what's going on there and whatever. And then we're going to talk Mason.
Starting point is 00:02:45 We're going to talk me? We're going to talk me? We're going to talk you. It's so exciting. All about you, yeah. All your horrible secrets. Yes, finally. Finally. We're going to talk.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I feel like I've built up enough goodwill where, like, the time is right for me to just say all the rotten stuff that I do. Yeah. And continue to do. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. New segment. Mesa, that's crook, Mesa.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Why are you doing that? I don't know. Because I'm a bad guy. I'm in my grubby era, as we know. We are in our grubby era. Transformers Rise of the Beast. So that's great. Transformers Rise of the Beast.
Starting point is 00:03:19 There's time codes below. Tom... I said... What am I saying? Tom? Tom DeLonge. This week, Tom DeLonge from Blink-182 has done the time codes. I was going to say time.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Tom Collings has taken the week off and it's Tom DeLonge. Yeah. I was trying to say time codes and Collings at the same time. I see, right. Anyway, Collings who edits this. In a way they are time Collings, aren't they? That's true. He does the time Collings as below if you want to jump to any particular segment.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah, yeah. If you want to know, where are you? You know. Et cetera. Mason? The segment, et cetera. Where is it? Mission Impossible 8 is currently being affected by the writer's strike.
Starting point is 00:03:55 That's the Dead Reckoning Part 2. Dead Reckoning Part 2, that's right. So that is on hold for now. I would have thought they would have finished, locked that in, locked that script in. But I guess. Well, you've got to also. When it's being worked on.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the kind of series of films where they think about it. That's true. There are some other movies they don't think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need a thing for Simon Pegg to say when Tom Cruise is doing something insane and we'll figure it out on the day. Because Ethan, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:22 We'll get Simon Pegg's genuine reaction from whatever insane thing is happening. Exactly. Ethan, don't go into space. Oh, why'd you do that? No. No, I'm going to maybe do something. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I'm going to be on a computer. Yeah. And Emily in Paris has been affected. Didn't know that was still going. Yeah, no, it is. And it is affected. So bad news for Phil Collins' daughter, Emily, in Paris. That's true.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Mason. Hello. So that's good is what I'm saying. Good. Delay stuff. You know, pay people properly. That's right. If they paid people properly, there wouldn't be any delays
Starting point is 00:04:54 and we could all have Hollywood movies every day. Oh, my God. Isn't that what you want? Yes, a daily trip to the movies. I would love that, yes. That's right. But, James, what if they got all the demands and then they just made more demands?
Starting point is 00:05:07 What if that? Not such a perfect world now, is it? Oh, wow. You really got me there. Let me think about that for a second. Fuck you. What about that? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It should be an ongoing negotiation. Wow. Yeah. That's a great point, though. That was a little play we performed for you. That's right. I play dumb guy who emails in sometimes. This is my GQ.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Chris Hemsworth had a big interview. Yeah, a big interview. Where he sat down. They gave him a bintang. They gave him a bintang and he went for it. They had a big interview. Some of the things he spoke about, though, were very interesting, one being Thor 4, last Thor that came out,
Starting point is 00:05:40 and maybe just last Thor in general. We'll see. Maybe. I don't think so, though. He says, I think we had too much fun. It became too silly. It's always hard being in the centre of it and having any real perspective. I love the process.
Starting point is 00:05:51 It's always a ride. But you don't know how people are going to respond. Now, there was obviously a negative reaction to Thor 4. Doesn't the interview also say that his kids made fun of him? Oh, that was an X-Bar. And his son's friends made fun of him. And his son's friends. I think the thing.
Starting point is 00:06:05 They're eight. They should love everything. That's what jumped out at me is that eight-year-old children do not have any yardstick for quality at all. But maybe Hollywood kids do. Maybe they do. Maybe they're seeing so much. Maybe horrible Byron surf rats do.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Maybe they do. Yeah. So that's, you know, that's a pretty fair response, you know. I feel like there's probably takes and cuts of that movie you could make which would improve it dramatically. I see. You know, but less kind of like, oh, no, I fell over or whatever. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I've stood up instead. Yeah, I stood up and I'm brave and I'm not silly. Yeah. But he did talk about how like Thor will have to change again. Ah, yeah. So there was like the first two kind of go hand in hand and then the three and four do and whatever, and then next time something else or whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:55 This time he's a doctor. This time he's a doctor, Thor. Yeah. I'm a surgeon. I'm a surgeon, he'll say. Thou stis a surgeon. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I'll just lightning bolt you open and I'll fix that old ticker in there and then I'll lightning bolt you closed. He also said about his kids, I've got a quote here, it's a bunch of eight-year-olds critiquing my film. We thought this one had too much humour, the action was cool but the VFX weren't as good. I cringe and I laugh
Starting point is 00:07:19 equally at it. So there you go. That's cringe, Dad. That is very cringe. That's cringe. What you've done is cringe there. Dad, your career is cringe. Yeah. Dad, Girl Ghostbusters was cringe. Am I going to get that? My kid's going to be like, Dad, your podcast is cringe
Starting point is 00:07:38 and Mesa was cringe? You might, unless you don't. Get a better podcast host is to cringe. Oh, no. All you have to do is a better podcast host is to cringe. Oh, no. All you have to do is not teach your child the word cringe. And if he comes home from school and he's like, Dad, what's cringe? You'll be like, sounds like a made-up word.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Made up. Oh, your teacher said it? No, they're wrong. I'm going to get them fired. They're using sus, kids. He's saying sus. He's like, that's sus. This is sus.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I'm like, none of those things are sus. I'll tell you what's sus, the government the government's sus so yeah he also mentioned how like he was kind of like bummed out that he couldn't work with like scorsese because scorsese is like there's only one true comic book movie and it's the movie joker that's what he has said yeah yeah yeah and i want to be clear after the fact that I have nothing to do with the movie Joker. Yes. And I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. Yet somehow most of the marketing campaign about that movie was
Starting point is 00:08:31 Martin Scorsese but Joker. Yeah. And he also said in relation to some of the latest Marvel movies, he said, this is in reference to Ant-Man 3, he was like, they can't all be big. It sucked. Wow, here's the thing. And Paul Rudd sucked.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He said, movies can't be all big world-ending things. Like, you have to make smaller stories. And this was in reference specifically to Airman 3. I was like, the end of the world is coming and whatever. But he's like, maybe you should have made a smaller story. But he also said, I haven't seen it. Which makes me think he has seen it. And he didn't want to be like, I saw it and I didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I was in a session with Martin Scorsese and neither of us saw it. I saw an ad on YouTube the other day for, remember when Ant-Man 3 was coming out and there was going to be a book, a companion book? Oh, the Scott Lang book, yeah. Look out for the little guy. I saw an ad for that. Paul Rudd's like, it's real and you can get it.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And it's from like two weeks ago. I'm like, man, nobody's getting that. What are you thinking? Is that the comic you left man, nobody's getting that. What are you thinking? Is that the cupboard you left? Yes. Paul Rudd. You do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Guys, you've got to buy it. Otherwise they'll take away the amulet. It means I don't age. Or my aging will come back over a weekend. Oh, no. They'll do it and grade me. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, I guess that is the choice that a lot of, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:45 actors make in Hollywood now which is do you jump into the big blockbuster machine? I mean I guess it's always been that way. Yeah. But, you know, over the last decade or so it's been stars being locked into, you know, multiple picture deals, you know, an entire, you know, you have to eat, sleep and breathe your character and the universe they live in and all their relationships with every other character
Starting point is 00:10:09 and all the potential storylines they could be made. Or you can do a more artsy thing that isn't going to win you, that isn't going to make you rich. Win you money. Win you money. Yeah. Well, I think there's a few people who kind of do both. I would say like Adam Driver's
Starting point is 00:10:26 a good example of that. You know, he can do as many good or bad Star Wars movies and whatever and then be like, and now I'm in this movie about monks or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Or dinosaurs. Or dinosaurs. Yeah. I'm doing my I'm doing, this is, it's one for you and one for me. One for you guys, Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:10:41 One for me, 65 million year old dinosaur movie or whatever. Space Dinosaurs's my one that's for that's for that's got to scratch that artistic itch you know totally yeah i but i mean and i think he has said something like well i'm never going to be in a uh scorsese or a tarantino movie he was in do you remember bad times of the l real yeah that was quite like that that was a that kind of vibe yeah i think i felt that was very much attempting to be a Tarantino-esque kind of movie. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I mean, you know, reach out, you know. Reach out. Put some feelers out. Do better, is that what you're saying? Get Kevin Feige in the room with Scorsese. He'd be like, give Hemsworth a thing. Yeah. He could be Italian.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah, he'd be Italian for you. Absolutely. Yeah, that's right. You can't stand up. Yeah. You know, he'd have to be sitting down. He'd be a little Italian. You know, they'd shrink him down, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Oh, like Bradley Cooper. Yeah, like Bradley Cooper. Yeah. Sure. Mason, Captain America 4. I'm just saying Christopher Capricciosa. That makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But can you imagine like Chris Hemsworth like sitting around at like an Italian mobster table? He's too big. They'd have to give him like a comb over and they'd shrink him down. Like he'd be He's too big. They'd have to give him a comb-over and shrink him down. Make him all hunched or something. They'd have to peshify him. He could be one of the guys. You know, there's always a non-Italian guy and he's like,
Starting point is 00:11:53 maybe he's sleeping with the boss's wife and then they take him out in a field and shoot him in the back of the head or whatever. That would be fun. But he'd have to go real weedy. Yeah. He'd have to go not all muscled. Yeah. And then be all weedy.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Bill Paxton, True Lies, mustache kind of thing. Yes, yeah, James Woods, Casino. Perfect. These are perfect examples of movies we've seen. Because we've seen most movies and we understand all of them. That's right. Speaking of movies, Mason, Captain America 4 New World Order has been now changed to Captain America 4 Brave New World?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Now, there wasn't an official announcement, I don't think, but there was an on-set photo of Anthony Mackie. I think that was the official announcement. Oh, there wasn't an official announcement, I don't think, but there was an on-set photo of Anthony Mackie. I think that was the official announcement. Oh, there you go. It was Anthony Mackie and Harrison Ford sort of behind the scenes in their special star chairs. Yeah. And one of the chairs said Brave New World.
Starting point is 00:12:34 That's cool. There you go. And what does that mean for the movie about snake people or whatever? Because aren't they introducing Serpent Society? Yeah, maybe. Which was initially a joke like a few years ago. Yeah, maybe. Or Civil War.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Serpent Society on a plane. Now, if they do Serpent Society and we maybe get some more G.I. Joe movies, who knows? Does that mean they can't do Big Cobra Man? You know, the snake? Serpentor? I don't know. Will that be too many snake people in cinema?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Well, I mean, that's, you know, Marvel's skill is being that first mover. You know, having that first mover advantage. We made the first snake guy. That's right. A live-action snake guy. That's right. Now you can't make snake guys too. The rise of Slurpentor.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Do you remember in that movie? Which movie? The G.I. Joe animated movie. No. Well, one of the Cobra Commando guys. Okay. I don't know which one. One of the Cobra Commando guys. Okay. I don't know which one. One of the Cobra Commando guys.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Gets zapped by like a ray that's slowly turning him into a snake. Yeah, right. And just towards like the end of his life when he becomes full snake, he's like, I used to be a man. Like he's just saying that all the time. It's pretty fucked up. That's cool, man. Yeah, and then he became a snake.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Wow. Okay, well, that's some free dialogue, Kevin Feige, if you want that. Yeah. May 3rd, 2024 okay so about a year away from um captain america for snake eyes also i think that you know uh probably the reason they've changed is because new world new world order has like a very specific like conspiracy theory kind of connotation on in certain sectors of the internet isn't that like good though in a way to be like, well, the New World Order is bad actually.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I'm assuming that's what the movie would be about. Like there's a New World Order and we're doing it. We love it. Yeah. It's being presented by KFC. New World Order, I'm loving it. That's right. We've stolen McDonald's tagline.
Starting point is 00:14:20 It's the New World Order. We're doing whatever. It's the New World Order. I don't care. I love it. I love it. I love it. Anyways, Fast X Part 2 news. Now, last week there was a rumor that Vin Diesel was beefing
Starting point is 00:14:34 with Jason Momoa. He was like, you did too much bad acting in the movie. You did too much bad acting that people liked. Yeah, you made my movie slightly better, and I hate that actually. That makes me mad. Anyway, Vin Diesel took to Instagram, as always, to say this. I love how expressive he said, but then he said, wait, give me a minute. Let me compose myself. Yeah, I know I can delete and type it again, but I refuse. My Instagram captions uh pure pure from my psyche i love how expressive and collaborative all the actors in our franchise feel coming into the world
Starting point is 00:15:12 saga the what the fuck is that that's wrong is that what it's called it's called like the world of fast and furious yeah i guess so but it's also capital w because if it was like the world saga like you know the world we've created. Oh, yeah. Capital W is like, is this what we're calling it now? I reckon in his mind he calls it the worlds of Fast and Furious or something. Like not world, singular, worlds. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Every movie is a new world. New world. New world order. Oh. Jason wanted to try something totally unique and special and ended up creating a scene stealing character. Now, you're adding your own spin to this, James, and I don't like it. You're doing some editorializing with a silly little voice that makes him sound silly, and
Starting point is 00:15:50 I don't like it. You're making him sound petty, and I don't care for it. You're telling me that he didn't hear the rumors and put this out, though, just to get ahead of it? You should do it in his incredibly charismatic regular voice. You're right. That the world won't forget. Is that better?
Starting point is 00:16:03 No, I've lost the thread of it. He ended up creating a scene stealing character the world won't forget. Thank you for showing up like you always do. I didn't think you were showing up as you always do. Even when you don't want to. Even when nobody wants you here. You're here anyway, but whatever. Jason Momoa commented,
Starting point is 00:16:19 all aloha. He said Colin Brother? He said, all aloha. Best times. Mahalo for taking, I'm sorry everybody, for taking a chance with me, boss man. Love that. That's just two. That's a boss and employee getting along on Instagram. That's right. Or two assistants chatting in their employer's voices.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Boss Vin Diesel has said something on Instagram about you. Just tell him Mahalo Aloha. Yeah, tell him. All the stuff that I say. Vin Diesel has said something on Instagram about you. Just tell him mahalo all over. Yeah, tell him, yeah. All the stuff that I say. Apparently also Fast X Part 2 will come out April 4th, 2025. Hobbes' solo movie comes out before that. Maybe we've covered this, but does that mean it's going to be Fast X Part 2,
Starting point is 00:17:05 then Fast 11, and then Fast 12? Oh, Mason, what are you doing? Okay, so it's apparently at the moment we just had Fast X Part 1. That's right. Then we're getting Hobbs Movie. Nice. Another one. Then we're getting Fast X Part 2 and then Fast X Part 3. It's just called Hobbs Movie.
Starting point is 00:17:20 But here's the thing. Fast X Part 1 is on streaming now. Yeah. The movie's been out for like three weeks. Yeah. That's not a good idea. No. It was still doing like some numbers.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah. It didn't stop. And now it's just available everywhere and you can pirate it if you want or whatever. It's probably on Twitter now. It's probably on Twitter now. So I don't know. I don't know why they would do that. It also looks like it might not break even,
Starting point is 00:17:45 which also makes me think like they're probably going to reassess budgets for the next one and maybe they do go back to two movies. Did I see that Fast X was $340 million or something? You saw that correctly. Some insane amount, yes. Wow. That's fun. The director did leave like three days into filming.
Starting point is 00:18:03 We are going back to just like really old, like Toyota Corollas or whatever. Oh, yeah. Like the Mission Impossible 2 cars, just some real stuff. I mean, didn't Fast X 10, wait, not Fast X Part 10. Yeah, Fast X 10, yeah. Didn't Fast X Part 10 end with, you know, them all in a bit of strife and like cut off from all their money
Starting point is 00:18:24 and all that sort of stuff. So maybe we're going back to the streets for the next time. Maybe they'll be like. And it's cheap. Yeah, they were all in that plane and it slammed into the side of the mountain. That's right. They're not paying anybody anymore. They're all dead.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I watched a video the other day on YouTube about Team Knight Rider, which was one of the two attempts to reboot Knight Rider in the 90s. There was two in the, this is before the reboot they did? This is before the reboot. There was Knight Rider 2000, which was set in the future in the year 2000. Who drove Knight Rider? David Asselhoff. Why was he in the future?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Because it just was. But it was a different, it was a red, the car was red. Was he, well, not the same guy though? No, he was the same guy and Kit was the same computer, but it was in a different car. They didn't explain any of that? Yeah, they did. But I'm not explaining it.
Starting point is 00:19:08 How did he get in the future? It was just the future. So he just moved forward in time. Yeah, just moved forward in time as a narrative sometimes does. So they painted his car red and went into the future. Yes. I hate that. But then after that there was a show called Team Knight Rider
Starting point is 00:19:21 which had a bunch of just old Ford cars and they all had different personalities and different drivers or whatever. That's too many people. It is too many. And talking cars and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was all like relationships between all the – like some people's cars liked other drivers
Starting point is 00:19:36 but they didn't like their driver or whatever. It was all this sort of – So it's like Voltron. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Voltron force but nobody knows what they're supposed to be driving. And one of the cars was just like this weird space-looking car that's split into two motorcycles. And who's driving those motorcycles?
Starting point is 00:19:49 Two different guys. Too much, mate. Was Hasselhoff in this one as well? No, although Michael Knight shows up right at the end, and he's like, I've been – I hate this. I'm shutting this down. I've been watching this, and I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I've been watching the TV show Team Knight Rider, and I don't like it. But my thought was that – I don't know if they'd ever do it like a – because there's a Twisted Metal TV series coming up. You saw that clip? I did see that clip. Well, speaking of Anthony Mackie. Yeah. And is it going to be live cars?
Starting point is 00:20:15 Is it going to be anything real at all? Because I feel like the 90s around that era was probably the last time we get real cars in a TV series. Because you had to. Because you had to. Because you had to and you couldn't just CG everything. But nowadays it's like, well, okay, we could do real cars but then we'd have to think of the stunts in advance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Have to block off a street. Have to block off a street and it's dangerous and all this sort of stuff. And it's dangerous. But we'll just CG it now. And so that's the kind of show they wouldn't make now because you couldn't do it live and it wouldn't look interesting CG. But what's Twisted Metal going to be? Is it CG?
Starting point is 00:20:54 I don't know. Because the clip we saw has no cars in it at all, which makes me think they haven't done any of it yet. No, I think it's done, isn't it? Isn't it out in like August? I don't know. Which is live. But again, maybe they haven't finished the –
Starting point is 00:21:06 Isn't the point of that Cars though? Yeah. Like that's the clip they release? Yeah, yeah. Where it's Anthony Mackie being beaten up by the clown who drives the ice cream truck. Yeah. And then they sing?
Starting point is 00:21:17 But did they – yeah, they did. The thong thong. Did they – have we seen like a behind the scenes footage or like a backlot photo of the cars? Maybe they built the cars or something? I mean, they're probably. Maybe I imagine that. No, there probably has been.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Okay. But are they actually using those? Sweet Tooth, that's his name. Yeah, are they actually using those for action sequences or are they just like display cars? Stand next to them. Just stand next to them. I mean, it wouldn't shock me at all if they have finished all the filming
Starting point is 00:21:46 but they haven't done any of the car chase stuff yet. The deadline's approaching. They're like, did we film any of that car chase stuff we were supposed to? No, we said we didn't have to. They said we don't want to do another Team Knight Rider. Yeah. So we just got the boffins to do it. Good.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And the computers. Smart. Like it. Mason, there has been, much to your chagrin, no doubt, more Indiana Jones 5 screenings. Oh, I like Indiana Jones 5. And people are saying, get ready for this, that it's actually not that bad.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Oh, nice. Terrific. So you were like, great, James. Look at you with your hopes all dashed. Look at you, you miserable prick. I said. Yeah. I said. Yeah. I said.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Because I was like, I wanted to see a good movie and maybe it's not going to be good and you laughed in my face. I laughed in your face and I said I'm also laughing in the faces of everybody who listens to this podcast who also might think the same as you, i.e. a big dummy. Exactly. But here's the thing. It's bad news for Indiana Jones though. It's currently tracking and this, i.e. a big dummy. Exactly. But here's the thing. It's bad news for Indiana Jones, though.
Starting point is 00:22:45 It's currently tracking, and this could change for a $60 million US opening. That's not good, I don't think. This movie costs like $400 million or whatever it did. And it's going to streaming in two days. That's right. Yeah, two days before it comes out. Crystal Skull opened to $100 million over a three-day weekend. Now, to put Kathleen Kennedy aside, because I need to say that,
Starting point is 00:23:09 because people will be like, this is Kathleen Kennedy. And sure, there are definitely elements of that because she runs Lucasfilm. But normal people don't not see a movie because of that. Normal people don't know who Kathleen Kennedy is. That's absolutely true. A lot of people like online. I didn't know Kathleen Kennedy had anything to do with this.
Starting point is 00:23:26 No. And in fairness, I don't pay attention to this podcast. But like you'll see like YouTube channels and comments and forums that it's like it's all Kathleen Kennedy. Again, most people, normal people just see Indiana Jones. That's right. But I think that. And they know they're going to get a face full of bullwhip if they do.
Starting point is 00:23:44 But I think that might be a problem because. Is the time of Indiana Jones. That's right. But I think that. And they know they're going to get a face full of bullwhip if they do. But I think that might be a problem because. Is the time of Indiana Jones past? Yeah, it's not like it's a brand that they've kept up. Yeah. You know, the last one was 2008. Yeah. If people even have remembered that at this point. There's been no video games, no comics, no books.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah, yeah. No TV shows, nothing. No breakfast cereal. Yeah. Indios? Yes. Where are my frosted Indios, you know? I feel like with a lot of these like legacy brands and sequels,
Starting point is 00:24:13 like Blade Runner, Tron. I mean, obviously it's bigger than both of those. Where's my Indiana Jones and the Temple of Yums? That's right. The little hearts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. You put the milk in and the milk all goes red. And they go boom, boom little hearts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The little hearts. I get it. You put the milk in and the milk all goes red.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And they go boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're real rabbit hearts. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But like is it going to be that kind of situation where it comes out and bombs or is it like going to like Top Gun it slightly where who knew that everybody loved Top Gun?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah. Yeah, maybe little dad movies. And here's the other thing because I feel like people our age or older are the demographic, right? Like my son, he knows because I know Indiana Jones, but we saw the trailer. You pretend you know Indiana Jones. I pretend I met him.
Starting point is 00:24:56 It's cool. Well, because we saw the trailer at Rise of the Beast, and he was like, all right, I know that guy. He's Han Solo or whatever, but I'm not going to take him and he doesn't want to see it. And so I'm wondering whether it's our age and older, but maybe it's not tracking because people our age or older don't pre-book. Yeah, why?
Starting point is 00:25:16 I've never bought a ticket this far in advance. Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, it doesn't look good is what I'm saying and it doesn't matter to me whether it doesn't do good. I'm not trying to defend it. I'm just curious to see how this is going to shake out. Yeah, well, I mean, I had a couple of thoughts. One we talked about earlier before the show started,
Starting point is 00:25:32 but is this going to be one of these situations where everybody's decided to pile on a thing before it comes out and then there'll be a critical re-evaluation later where people are like, oh, no, it was actually good. It was all right. But sometimes what happens is people in the media and generally go, this is one we can make fun of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Let's absolutely crush this and then everybody sort of jumps along with that. Yeah. But, yeah, that's happened to us a few times, I think. Yeah, sure. Name one. Give an example. I know. My opinions are always correct.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Okay. And they're always vindicated later. Well, something I said, though, then, where I went along with something, and actually it was the best movie ever made. Oh, all the things you say. Oh, yeah, Goodfellas. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You called it Badfellas. I said it Badfellas. And I said that because actually if you look at those people closely in the movie, they're not nice people. That's right. You said Badfellas also because that's how you would spell it. That's how I would spell it. O-W-S.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I'm just out of the loop. But, yeah, I think maybe you're right in the sense of it's a little bit like the Terminator franchise where I thought the last one, Dark Fate, if you can even recall, was the best one since two. Yeah. And I'm vindicated. Yeah. And you were wrong. No, I said the same. You're right. I said literally the same, since 2. Yeah. And I'm vindicated. Yeah. And you were wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:45 No, I said the same. You're right. I said literally the same, Mason. I remember. But maybe they shouldn't have made three bad ones in between. Yeah, well, exactly it. The three bad ones and nothing else really. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Well, Sarah Connor Chronicles. Yeah, that's true. And, yeah, you're right that nobody's been – they haven't been keeping up – they don't keep up the IP. And then people are like, you know, and you just go, what was the last thing? Oh, the last one that was bad.
Starting point is 00:27:08 The last thing. Nobody remembers the classics or whatever it is. Like, you know, kids these days haven't seen Last Crusade, for example. That's right. And people are just like, Harrison Ford, isn't he like a million fucking years old? I don't know. Yeah. But is it a dad goes to the movie movie?
Starting point is 00:27:24 That's right. You know? Yeah, yeah. Where he goes up and he it a dad goes to the movie movie? That's right. You know? Yeah, yeah. Where he goes up and he goes, one ticket by myself, please. That's right. Is that the situation? Could be, yeah. Yeah, because that's what I'll be doing.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Also, I think they probably should have gotten an AI, Sean Connery, and put him in Indy's whip. Yeah. So he's got a companion. Wacha, wacha, it would say. Wacha. And that's all? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I don't know. It's the 60s, so it wouldn't do a lot other than wacha. That's right. Maybe the whip gets hurt. Oh, Junior, let me whip that man's hat off. Wacha. Now let me whip him on the face. Wacha.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I like being a whip. Mason, speaking of old people doing movies. Oh, Expend for Balls? It's time to expend for balls, folks. Trailer's all the way for Expend for Balls. Did you know they filmed this? Yeah, I didn't know. I had some, I, look, no.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I sound very confused than I am. I've seen the trailer, but that sprung out of nowhere. Yep. I was under the impression, speaking of Terminator, I was under the impression that there were plans some maybe years ago that it was going to be all girl Expendables. It was girl Expendables. And it was going to have like Linda Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Girl Spendables. Girl Spendables. Well, girls do Spendables, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, man. Girls do Spendables, I'll tell you that much. Whoa. It's undeniable. Some stereotypes are true in Girls' Spender Balls.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And you really are a grubby. But it was going to be Linda Hamilton and, I don't know. Maybe Sigourney Weaver. Sigourney Weaver, now they put in Michelle Yeoh and, you know, et cetera, et cetera. But now it's just sort of just the same Spender Balls from previously, but also Megan Fox is in it and someone else. And someone else is in it.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Oh, they could have got Cynthia Rothrock. They could have got all sorts of. Tony Jaa's in this one. Maybe he's in the last one. I don't know. I think, yeah, it's tough to say. Statham is back if in fact he was gone. No, he wasn't gone.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Was he in the last couple? I fucking hate these movies. Well, I've only seen three and I hate it. Everybody said it was the best one and I hated it. Yeah, I fell asleep during one and then I didn't like three. And there's some fun jokes. Dolph Lundgren's like, oh, I've got a prescription sniper scope or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:34 It's a bit of fun. 50 Cent, isn't it? 50 Cent is in this one. He's one of the new Expendables. He's a new buck. He's a new young buck. That's right. 50-year-old 50 Cent.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah. No, I wouldn't say I hate them. I feel like they kind of go off the idea of, like, remember these guys. Yeah, right. But that's not enough. No, it's not. Like, yeah, I remember them, but can you have them do something interesting? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And the last one leaked. Do you remember? Vaguely, yeah. It leaked, and then they kind of blame that on an underperforming. Right. But then if you look at, at like the torrenting numbers. Andy Garcia's in this. Andy Garcia, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Face of the cinema, Andy Garcia. But if you look at the torrent numbers for number three, it wasn't getting torrented. So people weren't downloading it and not going. Yeah, right. It just kind of underperformed. Yeah, right. Which makes me think these must be done on the cheap.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, no Arnold though in this one either it seems. I mean some of the CG in this looked very bad in this trailer. That's what I like. There was a truck leaping a thing and it just looked awful. Oh, and was there some very bad like look at this secret military base or whatever and it just looked awful? Did I think of another?
Starting point is 00:30:39 It does feel like one of those straight to DVD Stallone movies or whatever. Also their tagline is they'll die when they're dead. Yeah. Again, it's a real one equals one situation. Yeah. I mean, they're not wrong. Yeah. Also the other fun thing to note is that Jason Statham
Starting point is 00:30:54 and Megan Fox's characters are a couple seemingly. Okay. But Jason Statham in real life is married to Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Transformers 3. Who replaced Megan Fox in the Transformers franchise. Isn't that a bit fun? Bit of fun? Bit of fun? Bit of fun.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Isn't that illegal? Yeah, I think it's illegal, but that's what makes it fun. Well, this was shot in international waters. He can do anything. Statham split his time between this and the Meg too. Just moved from room to room. Or he got all the other people to leave. What am I kicking in this room?
Starting point is 00:31:22 A big green box. All right, mate. No worries. Okay, so I'm kicking this big green box for the Meg 2 and Expendables. Is that right? You just add it later. All right. And then Expendables is kicking Andy Garcia in the hand.
Starting point is 00:31:38 He's kicking Megan Fox. They put her in. Ah, Mason. Anyways, anything can be good. Not this side. Including expendables. I guess. Let's be positive.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Okay. Good movies can happen. Sometimes you watch a movie and you go, good movies are back. Who's paying for this? Great question. Because when I look at this sort of stuff, I guess the question is, because when you talk- movies, a lot of the time it seems it's because your Netflix or any of those, Amazon Prime, something like that, it's because they have an infinite supply of money seemingly until the investors realize what's happening, which hasn't happened yet, which is wild. No, you're right.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But where they're like, we can give everybody $30 million or whatever. But I don't think this is it. No. There's no way this is it. So is it a case of just they all like hanging out and they might as well make a movie together? Is that it? So it's made by Millennium Media and Campbell Grobman Films.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Campbell Grob? Oh, it's a Grobman joint. It's a Grobman joint. But it's being distributed by. These guys are in their Grob era. But it's being distributed by Lionsgate. Yeah, right grob era. But it's being distributed by Lionsgate. Yeah, right. Because Lionsgate, I guess, wouldn't pay for this.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yes. So there you go. Okay. It was also written by, you're going to love these names. I don't know anything about Millennium Media, but I recognize the logo. Yeah. So it's Kurt Winder, Max Adams, and Tad Daggerhart wrote this one. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I love that. Let me check out Millennium Media and Campbell Gromman. All right, so they are. In 2005, they made movies including Raging Sharks, Mosquito Man, Snake Man, Bloodsuckers, The Chum Scrubber. Oh, yeah. And so forth. They made 16 Blocks. Remember that movie? Yeah, that was good. Oh, yeah. And so forth. They made 16 Blocks.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Remember that movie? Yeah, that was good. Yeah, okay. Some people consider that like the last Die Hard movie, like for real. Yeah, wow. If that's the one I'm thinking of with Bruce Willis. Is that the Bruce Willis one? Yeah, Bruce Willis and Most Def is in it, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yeah, cool. Campbell Grobman Films, you might know they're responsible for Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D in 2013, the 2013 movie Reality Show, Chuck. The TV series Chuck. No, it's different. It's a 2016 sports drama. I don't know what that is. The Hitman's Bodyguard.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Oh, yeah. The Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard. Okay. Leatherface. Rambo Last Blood. Same bloody movie if you ask me. You're not wrong. Hellboy, but only new Hellboy.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Okay, all right. The movie Tesla, which is a biographical drama film written and directed by Michael somebody. It stars Ethan Hawke. And the movie Jolt, which was a Kate Beckinsale kind of atomic heart situation. Well, I love all of that. I love all of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I agree. That's great. So there you go. Look forward to that movie when it comes out, when it all of that. Tommy Blonde situation. I love all of that stuff. I agree. That's great. So there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look forward to that movie when it comes out, when it gets leaked to Pirate Bay or whatever. I just had a thought of like there's two movies being made on the same lot and like next to each other and it's both groups of people who are just making the movies
Starting point is 00:34:39 because they love hanging out together and it's the expend four balls team and then it's like Wes Anderson making a movie like just next door and they're all living in fear that the expend four balls guys are going to show up and beat him up we're going to break through the wall okay so it says that expend three balls cost 90 to 100 million dollars and this one is 100 million dollars but i i mean that would go to the cast right and like stallone yeah you'd think so yeah anyway we've talked too much about expend for more really have you mason this is why the first thing maybe we'll watch we'll maybe watch on a slow week yeah if it's a slow week yeah um the hot mic podcast they've got a scoop and a rumor
Starting point is 00:35:14 about nintendo and illumination apparently they are closing a deal for a big zelda movie so that's fun etc because obviously Breath of the Wild number two came out and people are like, this has changed my life. I'll never be the same, et cetera. It's a perfect time off the back of Mario doing really well. Who's an awful choice for Link? Chris Pratt. Yeah, you reckon?
Starting point is 00:35:36 I was going to say Jared Leto. Yeah, Chris Pratt again. I mean. He doesn't talk. Well, I was going to say anybody is a bad choice. Sometimes he talks though. He doesn't talk, right? Well, Mario mostly doesn't talk either. Well, I was going to say anybody is a bad choice. Sometimes he doesn't talk. Well, Mario mostly doesn't talk either.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Well, that's true. Yeah. So what kind of approach here do you think they're going to take? Are they going to do a Breath of the Wild? Are they going to do an Ocarina of Time? Are they going to do one of the boring top-down ones or whatever? I mean, I would- I know they're actually good.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Don't- It would make most sense to do it in the Breath of the Wild style, right? Breathe of the Wild. The Breathe of the Wild style, right? Could he be a silent protagonist? Maybe. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Does he technically talk in those games but we can't hear him? You're asking the wrong guy. Yeah, and I've played Breath of the Wild. Sorry, Breathe of the Wild. Breathe of the Wild, yeah. I don't think he talks in that one, does he? Yeah, no. Well, he doesn't talk but I'm wondering is it that he talks
Starting point is 00:36:24 but we don't hear him and people respond as if he does talk? It's just we don't hear his voice. Sure. Then yes. Great. Yeah. Terrific. But, you know, this will do very well.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I would say that Zelda isn't as big a property as Mario. Not by much, but this will go gangbusters. Yeah, Zelda sort of lacks the pick-up-and-play that a Mario game does, I think. Yeah, true. So that has sort of shrunk the user base a little bit. But there's still enormous games, and they have been for 30 odd years or whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Exactly, yeah. There you go. Nintendo's seen those dollar signs. They certainly are. What other? Should they do a Donkey Kong? Should they do a Rad Racer? Should they do a F-Zero?
Starting point is 00:37:02 F-Zero. No. That's the answer. No? No. No, they shouldn't do an F-Zero. Should they do a- F-Zero. F-Zero. No. That's the answer. No? No. No, they shouldn't do an F-Zero. Should they do a Star Fox? Well, they should see how Twisted Metal does before they do an F-Zero.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Bad. They do poorly. Yeah. Yes. There's other racing games that they do ahead of that though, right? I was going to say Mario Kart, but they did that already. Do Pilotwings. Do Pilotwings.
Starting point is 00:37:22 You don't think like Star Fox would be like Star Wars, but they're all fucking animals or whatever. Why have they done it? Not they're all fucking animals. Sure. You get it. I get it. Why haven't they done anything new Star Fox lately? That's a great question because I like those games. The Wii U one was apparently terrible and
Starting point is 00:37:38 they had to use the thing to like, I don't know, to navigate and shoot and people hated it. And the one before that on GameCube, I think't know, to navigate and shoot and people hated it. Interesting. And the one before that on GameCube, I think they repackaged like another game to make it Star Fox. So there's like running on the ground shooting. Oh, I see. We hate this.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Okay. But if you go back to like Star Fox like 64, it was called something else here, I think. Star Wing? Star Wing. Then, yeah, it's basically just Star Wars. Yeah. But they're good.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Cool. Fancy question? I don't know. Yeah. What was my question? One of the Nintendo stuff should be made into a movie. Oh, okay. Well, that's great.
Starting point is 00:38:10 What about Double Dragon again? Sure, maybe. Double Dragon, but again, Triple Dragon. Three dragons. This is by THR. Apparently James Gunn will be testing some actors soon for various roles in his Superman movie. Superman lives. Superman Lives. Superman, Lois Lane, Lex Luthor and the Authority will apparently be introduced in this one.
Starting point is 00:38:30 That's interesting. So, yeah. I mean, they're building out a big universe, aren't they? They are. I wonder how, yeah, that's interesting. Because there's a, so for people who do not know, I think it was made into an animated movie as well. It was a Superman, there was a two-issue run called
Starting point is 00:38:45 what's so funny about truth justice in the american way what's so funny great question james and it's it's superman fighting a team called the elite yeah who are like uh they're like superman level superheroes but they don't care about like property damage or or are they superman level you know oh that's a good question um But they were based on the authority. Yeah. British guy. Yeah, yeah. Another one.
Starting point is 00:39:08 That's right. A girl probably. Yes. Three members. Yes, at least three. The four. That's right, yeah, yeah. Five.
Starting point is 00:39:14 But they were based on the authority who were an image team at the time because the authority were like, you know, very popular and they were just like we're – We're very popular. We're very popular in it, right? But they were about – they were like you know very popular and they were just like we're we're very popular we're very popular in it right but they were about they were like big action but there was no you know they didn't care about the consequences they didn't care about civilian deaths and all this sort of stuff and so the idea was a couple a couple of issues that sort of thought about well where does
Starting point is 00:39:40 superman fit in this universe where everybody's real cool and they have superpowers and they don't care about the consequences and whatever? And, yeah, so maybe it'll be something like that. Yeah, it's like, well, I'm even doing this. There's a guy who's way cooler than me. That's right. Maybe they need a big dork. Maybe the world needs a big dork, Mason.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about some big dorks, though. I'm ready. So I love this headline from comicbookmovie.com, which used to be the official podcast. That's right. And I like to think we still are.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Yeah, me too. Anyway, the headline is. Should we put it back in the description? This is by Josh Wilding. The headline is, The Flash Reviews Are In and It Definitely Doesn't Sound Like the Best Superhero Movie Ever Made. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:40:22 So there's been more reactions. We call them hot reacts. We do. There's a bunch of stuff that's been spoiled already. I've been mostly spoiled three at this point. I'm saying this week. But they're just putting it out. Like people are seeing it in regular cinemas and whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Oh, yeah, that's true, yeah. And I would say reactions have been mixed to good. But off the back of that. With the occasional really mean one. Yeah. This looks like shit. It's fucking hated that. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I'd rather be watching Expend for balls. I wouldn't. So Stephen King has come out and loved it. James Gunn loved it. Tom Cruise loved it. Tom Cruise said it was incredible. David Zaslav, head of Warner Brothers Discoveries. I love content, he said.
Starting point is 00:41:08 He said, I love content. For now. Said it was the best comic book movie ever made. He's never seen anything. No. Like not even just superhero movies. He's never seen anything like that. I agree.
Starting point is 00:41:21 He's probably read a book on, I don't know, the stock market. That's what he said. You don't think? I think maybe he's listened to some of an audio book. I reckon maybe one of his assistants has listened to an audio book and summarised it in like a one-page executive summary that they read to him and he wasn't listening. But it wasn't because he was watching something.
Starting point is 00:41:42 No. Yeah. You know, everyone's saying it's the best since The Dark Knight and whatever. I saw like somebody put together a graphic this week, which was it's like the past 12 DC movies and it's all Shazam 2 was the best since The Dark Knight. This is the best since The Dark Knight, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Anyways, apparently according to THR. Anyway, so reactions are I would say maybe lower your expectations a little bit going into this. Not me. I'm hyped and I can't be stopped. That's great. But THR said that Andy Muschietti, who directed this, is the top choice to direct the Batman feature, The Brave and the Bold. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Though multiple sources tell THR there's no script and thus no formal commitment from the filmmaker. This will all happen post-writer's strike. I think him doing this also depends on how this does. Though apparently James Gunn really likes it, so that would probably go a long way. No, but he released one of those reviews that said it sucks. Did he?
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was joking. You fell for it. It sucks. Do you think he likes it because if it is bad, because it resets the universe? Yes. And anything he makes after this has to be good by comparison.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Just in time for Aquaman 2. That's what I want. The other thing is, this is from an insider, that CEO David Zaslav and DC Studios. Do you think the insider is James Gunn? Yes. No, because DC Studio co-head James Gunn had publicly said the feature is among the greatest superhero movies
Starting point is 00:43:02 of all time. This has sparked bemused head shaking from Summit Warners who question the wisdom of setting such high expectations. This is a quote from one insider. It can't be the studio telling you it's good. Your friends have to tell you it's good. That's true. Makes you think, doesn't it? That's quite profound.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah. Anyway, look forward to a completely speechless Ezra Miller going to the premiere for this and getting one photo taken and then quickly being ushered into a van. Yeah, it's all the actor. Every red carpet thing I've seen so far, it's the actor playing Supergirl. Yeah. Whose name I cannot recall. Sasha.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Sasha Carl. Yeah. There we go. Yeah, yeah. It's all been her making a lot of appearances. Yeah. No Michael Keaton because why would he go out for this? Why would he go out for this?
Starting point is 00:43:44 I'm sure he expressly in his contract it's like no press for this. Yeah. Zero press. Do not press me. I'll not answer any questions about who would win in a fight between anyone. Because I don't care. There's no part of me that cares about any of that. So anyway, next week The Flash.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Let's see. It's next week. Yeah. These two. Absolutely. Great. I'm very excited. It's next week. Yeah. This too. All right. Absolutely. Right. I'm very excited. Me too, maybe.
Starting point is 00:44:08 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH, the Center for Addiction and Mental Health to support life-saving progress in mental health care. From May 27th to 31st, people across Canada will rise
Starting point is 00:44:46 together and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Transformers Rise of Those Beasts. It's the latest Transformers movie to hit cinemas. You've got to rise those beasts. You've got to. You've got to get a real rise out of them, Mason.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And how do you do that? Poke them with a stick. Yeah, or you steal something that they need. Oh, yeah, a chip or a heart or a key or a door. Key, door, orb, spark. Heart of something. Yeah, nice. Et cetera.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Terrific. On a budget of $200 million, the first box office weekend, Mason, in the US alone. Is it bad? No, it's okay. It's going to make about $55 to $60 million. Okay. We don't know yet whether it's going to top Spider-Verse,
Starting point is 00:45:36 but they're both going to make around that. Right. Now, that is more money than Bumblebee made in its first weekend, but compared to, like like the biggest movies, which is like most of the Bay ones. Yes. And even bigger movies generally. Much less.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah. So this is definitely a brand like still rebuilding at this point. Yeah. Because, you know, they made four bad movies in a row and then Bumblebee. Yeah. So, yeah. Anyways, what do you think? And Hobbs and Shaw.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And Hobbs and Shaw. That's right. It's unrelated, but it feels related, doesn't it? It does feelbee. Yeah. So, yeah. Anyways, what do you think? And Hobbs and Shaw. And Hobbs and Shaw. That's right. It's unrelated, but it feels related, doesn't it? It does feel related. I don't know who's responsible, but it does feel related. We're going to do non-spoilers, then spoilers. There is some actual spoilers in this as well, I would say. One at the end.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Oh, yeah, right. If you don't know the big thing that I knew going into this. Okay. What do you think the story was? Well, this is sort of a sequel to Bumblebee and sort of a prequel to the other Transformers movies maybe. No, because Unicron is in the Earth in one of those movies. It could be two Unicrons.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Two Unicrons? Have you ever met another guy called James? Of course you have. Have I met another Unicron though? You don't get out much though, do you? I don't. Yeah. Into space.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't do a lot of space travel these days. Not since being a parent. Anyway, some of the Transformers are on Earth. Yep. And they're like, what if there's a key? Yep. And if some bad guys found a key, they'd open up a gateway
Starting point is 00:46:54 and then Unicron would come out and he'd eat everything. Now, this key. Better stop that. Is it in one place? No. No. Transformers are going to have to go on a series of adventures to get the key and whatever. Yeah. Exotic locales. No. Transformers are going to have to go on a series of adventures to get the key and whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Yeah. Exotic locales. Sure. They're going to meet the beast, the Maximals, and that. They're going to meet the Maximals. Yeah. Meet the Maximals. Transformers meet the Maximals.
Starting point is 00:47:16 You should have just said, when I said, what do you think the story was? Oh, yes. We've got to get the thing. That is true, yeah. If we don't get it, who knows? Yep. Portal or whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:26 So, again, like this is your classic Transformers movie. You're not going to be bowled over by the premise, I don't think, or the plot. They just need to get a thing. They need to get an orb and close a gate or whatever. Yeah, absolutely. But that, I mean, it's part and parcel with a lot of this sort of stuff. Well, they all do.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a space seat. It's a door bridge. A drawbridge. It's a unicorn box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a space seat. It's a door bridge. It's a unicorn box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a bold bit of cheese. That's right. It's a laser that opens a laser.
Starting point is 00:47:52 It's just so much. But anyway, what are we in for in this? Why are we watching this movie? Because there's Transformers we like. That's right. And do we care about the Transformers? Do we care about the characters, the human characters? What do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:48:07 I think one of them was written better than the others in terms of human characters. Oh, yes. And, yeah, I mean, the Transformers in this are more tolerable than they've been in a lot of the other movies. So true. This is definitely better than all of the Michael Bay ones, probably even the first one maybe.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I don't know. They've all merged together and I hate it. Yeah. But I didn't think this was as good as Bumblebee. Yeah, right. I think if I saw this movie in 1994, which is the year that it was set. That's right. This would be the best movie I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Right. But as an adult, I'm like, all right. Okay, yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It was a lot of it that just kind of like, yeah, get the thing and whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:43 And then at the end when like what they said, they shouted maximize and the animals and they were fighting each other. I'm like, all right, I understand this. I know who everybody is. The action is it's competently put together. Definitely. And you can tell where everybody is. Yep.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I think that's nice. All the characters are distinguishable from one another. Yeah, man. I think the voice acting is pretty solid from everybody. I don't think there's enough time for everybody to get an arc. I'm not talking about the Transformers arc. I'm talking about the character arc. He's not talking about the arc of the Covenant either.
Starting point is 00:49:14 That's correct. That's a different franchise. Yeah, man. Come on. Get with it. That's right. But I still think there were definitely moments where I'm like, this is missing something.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Okay. Is it Haley Steinfeld from the previous movie? Yeah, I think maybe. Is it John Cena from the previous movie? I think that previous one had like more heart than this one had. Because it was essentially just the two characters. It was one human and one Transformer. And so we had more time to build some emotional stakes there.
Starting point is 00:49:40 I mean, they sort of attempt to do that again, I feel like. But more of a buddy kind of situation. I liked that relationship. We've got Anthony Ramos as Noah, and he's an ex-soldier, and he's trying to support his family, and he's like, what do I want? Gotta get a job, gotta make it in the big city kind of thing. And he has the same mum as Miles Morales.
Starting point is 00:49:58 That's true. That's right. Think about it. Yeah. And he's teamed up with Mirage, played by Pete Davidson. Yeah, who I thought was really good and charming in this. Yeah, and he's, you know, he's. I can see why. You know what I mean? I can see why those things keep happening with him.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I get it. I get it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it, Mason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Dominic Fischbach, who plays the other human character. Elena, yeah. I thought was they really didn't give her that much to do,
Starting point is 00:50:23 and her role was mostly consequonsequential at the end, which we'll talk about more in spoilers. You've got to use the computer. Are you going to use it or what? Get in that vent. No, don't worry about it. Say, well, we'll just kill everybody and then you can get on the computer to your heart's content later.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, that's probably true, yeah. But, I mean, it the the consequence of a character who's sort of like the guy in the chair yeah you bring him out into the field absolutely like they got a limit if you're not shooting a gun in these movies yeah what do you got to do really i think uh i i wonder if bumblebee didn't wasn't set in like 1988 or whenever it's set uh like would this have been set in 1994 no there's nothing about this other than maybe the soundtrack. Or the operating system. Or the operating system.
Starting point is 00:51:07 But, like, there was never a moment where, like, the technology of the day stopped them from doing a thing. No, that's true, yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah. So I think that's definitely a result of, you know, the last one being set in the 80s. There was a moment where the little brother was like,
Starting point is 00:51:21 I can't beat Bowser and Mario. There's no Mario game on the Game Boy with Bowser in it, Mason. I know that for a fact. That's true. Super Mario Land doesn't have it. Get it right, idiot. Wow. Yeah, so anyway, it took me right out of the movie.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but no, I liked Mirage. I enjoyed that they're going to stick with the Optimus Prime has gone completely insane with Bloodlust. I was under the impression that Peter C thought he got better peter cullen had you in interviews was like yeah i'm really enjoying playing optimus prime currently and i'm like oh he's going to be back to his wonderful noble leadership self but he's like i'm killing everybody i'm gonna cut your head off that's a literal light in this movie i'm gonna cut your
Starting point is 00:51:58 head off for the end of the movie what does he that's up to you to discover because there's a moment also where he meets optimus primal and optimus prime was like i was named after you i fucking love you man you're the best and then later he's like talking to his mates and he's like something's fucking wrong with that guy i thought he was cool he's not cool this guy's off chops something happened here i don't know what it was i'm a robot gorilla i should know okay stop let's let's talk about a couple of things. The Maximals. Yes. They're in it, aren't they? They're in it.
Starting point is 00:52:28 What did you think of Ape Link? The other gorilla guy. The other gorilla. I was with my son, one of his friends, another friend of mine. He was the dad of the other kid. Right. You don't have – your son's friend isn't also your friend. No.
Starting point is 00:52:43 They're different people. Would you call him your friend though? The kid? Yes. No, no kids are my friends, Mason. I'm not friends with children. Yeah, they got nothing to say to those kids. No, he's a very cool kid.
Starting point is 00:52:53 So at the start when Optimus Primal, who's a gorilla, was talking to Ape Link. Who's another robot gorilla. But it's like his boss. His big brother or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I'm passing the transforming into a robot gorilla leadership to's like the lead. He's like, but it's like his big, like his boss. His big brother or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like a boss in the transforming into a robot gorilla leadership to you. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:10 And my son and his friend who loved it, by the way. I thought it was incredible. We're talking to each other like, they're like literally like, which is Optimus Prime? What is this? What's happening? I have conversations with your son sometimes because I show up here a little bit earlier, whatever, and he's there.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And again, he's seven. Is he seven? Yeah, he's seven, yeah. And so I have to be like, oh, sounds cool. And I can't just launch into criticisms. It's upsetting to me sometimes. Didn't you find the plot quite derivative, young man? I mean, seriously, a key?
Starting point is 00:53:41 Top of the portal? A sky beam again? I mean, seriously, a key? Top of the portal? A sky beam again? But as I was speaking to the guy I went with also, and he looked up Ape Link in the car on the way back, and it was some kind of 2002.
Starting point is 00:53:58 It started as like some kind of TransformerCon exclusive, and it's a robot, and it's a gorilla that turns into a robot and also a gorilla riding a surfboard. Like, I want to see the surfboard. Like that's the... I want to see the surfboard gorilla. Right? Didn't get it though, did we? They were around water for some of it. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:54:12 People would have cheered. People would have said, woo! They'd be like, it's Ape Link's on his surfboard. Ape Link. I love how they have to keep their names. Yeah. I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Anyway, I really like the designs when they stuck to like the G1 kind of stuff. I thought Optimus looked great. Doesn't have his trailer, though, does he? Doesn't have his trailer. They make a point. He's got the – because he's a White's Freightliner, and they've really leaned into like this is the thing you want, right?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah, you got it. It's got a Freightliner on it. That's right. The Maximals I quite like the designs of it. I thought RC looked great. I think the stuff, yeah, that kind of stuck to the like slight variations of the original designs were good. But there was a number of them that are somewhat like Michael Bay-esque,
Starting point is 00:54:53 you know, like one's got glasses. Oh, right, okay, yeah. Those ones are just like the villains are kind of generic-ish kind of. Yeah, they have that Nitro Zeus kind of vibe to them. Exactly. Because there were two, there were basically two villains in Bumblebee. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:09 And they were both triple changed, and I thought they were quite interesting. I liked them. Those designs were pretty good, I think. But these ones are just sort of. So Scourge just turns into a truck. Yeah. That's.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Yeah. We've seen that. We have seen that. There's another guy in this movie who turns into a truck. And he's like, Optimus Prime is like, he's too strong. I can't stop him. He's too strong. Just wait a bit. Just wait till the end of the movie.
Starting point is 00:55:29 You might be able to do it. Yeah, I mean, if I were to be critical about this movie, and I will be because your son isn't here to have his hopes and dreams crushed, yeah, I mean, it's that classic Transformers thing that we've seen throughout pretty much the entire franchise, which is what can kill a Transformer or harm a Transformer? What can bring it back? What can bring it back?
Starting point is 00:55:48 Like what can bring a Transformer back, you know, is you can get stabbed through the chest and you're fine. You can get your limbs or head removed and just put back on or sometimes you just get zapped with a thing and you die. Yeah, man. But what can bring you back? Well, I guess this can bring you back, but only if it's been energised by a thing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, man. Or can just a guy put you back together, like a regular man can just put you back together and then you're fine again? Yeah, good questions. I mean, this goes back all the way to Transformers, the movie. Yes. Where, like, Optimus Prime dies and he's done
Starting point is 00:56:18 and then Ultra Magnus is torn to pieces and they're just like, yeah, just put him back together and he's fine, I guess. Yeah, or like there are villains who are invincible until they're just like, yeah, just put him back together and he's fine, I guess. Yeah, or like there are villains who are invincible until they're just not for a bit. Yeah, exactly, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I think, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Look, obviously I didn't love it, but I feel like it did do a number of Transformers things that I did like. As a non-fan, I can't imagine that you would like this as an adult, right? Probably. I didn't hate it. No, if you were a non-fan of Transformers. Oh, if I was not a fan, right. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's got a classic kind of, you know. Really like get the thing and whatever. Yeah, but it's also I think like emotionally it's like, okay, but you've got to remember to, you know, you've got to support one another and you've got to, I mean, it's for kids, but it's, you know. Yeah, exactly. On that level, yeah, it totally works. You've got to support one another and, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:09 work together with your friends and your family and that's how you win and that sort of stuff. And that's, you know, a bit of fun, I thought. What about the bit where they're like Marky Mark is going to do movies or whatever because he was in some of these movies. That's right. But he was in really terrible ones, wasn't he? It's a bit of a fun reference, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:57:24 And I guess my question is also in regards to what they can turn into. There's a moment where Mirage goes through a number of different forms. It was just like, look, and he does his original form at one point, and there's a moment where he changes into a garbage truck. I don't like that these Transformers aren't locked into a mode. Okay, but I think he's the only one that isn't. Really? Because Bumblebee can do it. Yeah, but he's only done it once once and he doesn't do it for the –
Starting point is 00:57:46 but everybody else is in there. I suspect they're trying to subtly change the rules to be like, okay, some characters can do it and some can't. Because nobody else changes. And if he changes into a garbage truck, is the back bit of the garbage truck a hologram, I assume? Because he's not the size of a garbage truck unless he's like a size changing guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Which I don't know whether he is. Something to think about. Maybe the mass is the same. Yeah. So the back of the garbage truck is very, very thin. Very thin. Very thin, you know? So you could just poke it with your finger.
Starting point is 00:58:18 You could just poke it with your finger and it would burst, yeah. Wow. And all the garbage would spill out because he's filled it with garbage. He's filled with garbage. For an authentic smell. You got to be. I will say, though, like I ask these questions,
Starting point is 00:58:28 but honestly, who cares? Exactly right. Who cares? All-star voice cast, though, Peter Cullen, we mentioned, Ron Perlman's Optimus Primal. Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Peter Dinklage is the bad guy. Michelle Yeoh, we got. Pete Davidson. Liz Kosh, you don't know who that is. She's like a YouTube influencing person.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Oh. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was Awkwafina for a second. I did also. Yeah. Because she was just. In something else. She was just in The Little Merman as the seagull.
Starting point is 00:58:52 She was a big seagull. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And John DiMaggio is another Transformer in there. Yes. So that's a bit of fun. I think he does a few different voices in this. And Bumbley obviously has no voice actor again. Yeah, good, great. Love that. Love that thing they've stuck with. and Bumbley obviously has no voice actor again yeah good great love that
Starting point is 00:59:06 love that thing they've stuck with at least he is a little bit smarter I guess somewhat he's pretty cool I think they should have just given him his voice back I 100% agree Dylan O'Brien voiced him in the last movie he did a really good job
Starting point is 00:59:20 yeah should we do some spoilers? yeah I'm gonna say best movie ever I certainly wasn't like what a waste of time I like the i think the designs were all cool and fun it was a bit i i would say speaking of transformers i thought it was a bit pedestrian yeah yes but uh otherwise i think i had a pretty fun time i thought look as a kid's movie if you like transformers yes this is an a plus as an adult it's an a minus because Optimus Prime didn't have his trailer. Oh, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:59:47 It's an A minus because of the trailer thing. But I don't know. I just didn't. It was like fine. Yeah. Yeah. I was expecting a little bit more out of this, especially because I like the director of this.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I like so much of this. And when they maximized, that was cool. Stephen Cable directed Creed 2. Yeah, exactly. I really like creed 2 yeah but i understand also these need to be and he's 35 how do you like that i love it okay that's great yeah i can't believe somebody who's older than me made a movie like this 10 years older than me but um i think all right now what are we in spoilers i'm just gonna say there's certain beats you gotta hit for these you know what i say there's certain beats you've got to hit for these, you know what I mean? And whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Certain beats you've got to hit. Sure, and it did all of that. I would love to see some combiner stuff but not like that looks like shit. Like the one that he devastated. Oh, my God. A pile of rolling trash. He'd be a big New York guy, wouldn't he? Yeah. He'd be all the different.
Starting point is 01:00:38 He'd be all like, forget about it. Yeah, exactly. They'd all be forgetting about it. Everybody would be forgetting about it and that's his weakness. Yeah, that's right. It'd be like he doesn't have any weaknesses. Ah, but he forgot about it. What if he's still like Bruticus or something, like a proper one?
Starting point is 01:00:49 Yes. You know? Something else. Anyways, this is one of three apparently, excluding some other ones that they're making. This is the first of a trilogy. Oh. If this is successful.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah. Spoilers though, Bumblebee dies, Mirage dies, and the bird dies. The bird is the only one that actually dies maybe. Air razor. Air razor. But again, based on previous Transformers movies, if they think of a cool new design for her, she'll just come back. She'll be a bird again.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yeah. Yeah. That bird was a bird. That bird turned into a helicopter or whatever. Yeah. What happened to the plane? What did the plane help with? Well, he was too busy being – he was he had the fast x cast
Starting point is 01:01:26 in him he's crashing into a mountain is that where he was yeah yeah yeah how did you feel about those ones dying but not really um classic yeah i was it was strange to me that i was surprised they picked bumblebee i mean i knew he was going to come back i was like oh he picked him on the people like yeah um so that kudos also i i think it, they undercut the death of Mirage by bringing him back in the mid credits. I mean, that was always going to happen though, right? I guess, yeah. And he had to sacrifice himself so that we could do an Iron Man suit.
Starting point is 01:01:57 That's true, yeah. And also like the Transformers suit, sort of from the. From the Transformers, the movie. But not really, because this one doesn't transform. It's just got a big jet on the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What do you think of that? It looked like the G.I not really because this one doesn't transform. It's just got a big jet on the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What do you think of that?
Starting point is 01:02:05 It looked like the G.I. Joe power suit. Well. Wow. Well. Wait, let's talk about, yeah, look, I don't, look, I think they should come up with some firm rules about killing or not killing the characters. And I would be okay with them just not killing the characters
Starting point is 01:02:23 because that sort of was a staple of the cartoon forever. And then you make one movie where they kill all the characters. Yes, that's right. Like the original movie. And then as you're leaving, they inspect all your children's pockets and if they've got any of those Transformers in their pockets, they snap them in half in front of your kids and go, no, new Transformers only.
Starting point is 01:02:41 So I guess before we get to the bigger thing. The bigger non-nothing thing. Is that they need to get the key and the key is in two parts. And there's a moment where Anthony Ramos is like, we should just destroy this key. But Optimus is like, well, if you destroy the key, I can't go home and I'll probably kill you if you do that. He doesn't say it.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I am on the edge. I'm on the edge. But anyway, at the end. And then Anthony Ramos is like. I won't. I won't because you're absolutely right. You've made an impassioned speech and threatened me and you're right and we'll find another way
Starting point is 01:03:12 and then the bad guys immediately steal the key. And Optimus Prime's like, whoops. Well, I guess I'm just going to hit it with a sword. Yeah. And then explode it anyway. And that was just after Dominic Fishback's character, whose whole point in this movie was to decipher a code to put it in the computer to close the space beam
Starting point is 01:03:29 which Unicron was coming through, but she didn't because somebody shot the terminal. So that's what I mean in terms of like what is this character even doing? If I was one of the Terracons, the bad guys, I would have summoned Unicron and then just shot the terminal. Yeah, man. Because then what? Then Optimus Prime would have hit it with a sword, though.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yes, that's true. You didn't think about that, did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't it weird that this is the second time this year that a villain's face has come off in a movie? Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Because I like the bit where Mirage fought Scourge
Starting point is 01:04:00 because he's got an interesting skill set. And he's the underdog. And he's the underdog. And he's the underdog. And like Bumblebee is a bit of that in some of the movies. And he did it while Scourge was still invulnerable for a minute. For a minute, yeah. For like ten more minutes. And he used his holograms and stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yeah, that was fun. I like that a lot. Yeah, yeah. And then Optimus Prime came in and went, I'm going to do this now. Yeah, I'll do it, I think. Yeah. And held him under a volcano. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Yeah. Cut his head off and whatever. That's right. Pretty great stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But his head off and whatever with a sword. Right. Yeah, pretty great stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But just that thing of like, he's invincible. He's a power but dark matter from Unicron.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yeah, you'd think he'd get more powerful with Unicron closer. You'd think he'd have a sword or something. Couldn't you put a line in there where it's like, well, now that Unicron's here, the link to the whatever's broken, now he's vulnerable. You do that, right? Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:04:43 They didn't. But he wasn't. So I said it. I said it. I saw it. You did that, right? Yeah. You know? They didn't. But he wasn't. So I said it. I said it. I saw it coming and I went, hey, everybody, let's just pretend that the link to Unix has been broken because he's here and so he's vulnerable now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:55 That's why Optimus Prime is cutting all his limbs and head off now because the link to the, and everybody's like, got it, champ. Perfect. Thank you for coming out. Yeah, you should do that at all cinemas. Yeah, you're right. It could have been even, and everybody's like, got it, champ. Perfect. Thank you for coming out. They all saluted me and applauded. Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:05:07 It could have been even a situation where like he went against Unicron or Unicron was upset with him. So maybe because he only gave him half the keys, like I'm taking away some of your powers for that. Perfect. There you go. I could have stood up in the cinema and do that. Maybe we'll do different sessions and see what tests.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Okay, right. See which ones work better, yeah. Yeah. And then we sell it. Then we sell it. Yeah. So that's all good. That's all good and what tests. Okay, right. See which ones work better, yeah. Yeah. And then we sell it. Then we sell it, yeah. So that's all good. That's all good and fun stuff. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:29 But the big reveal in this movie. Oh, my God. Such a big non-reveal. Talking about it for years. Tremendous. Normally we talk, like at the end of the year we do our famous Weekly Planet Awards. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And one of them, of course, is the Game is On Awards, the most blatant attempt to build a franchise within a movie to the detriment of the movie itself. And I think we need a new category for this because it's its own thing, this thing. It's the big, huge reveal that gives us nothing. Yeah. Because I guess unless this is a tremendous failure,
Starting point is 01:06:02 they are going to make at least one more, I would imagine. Well, there is another one coming that's not in this continuity. We'll talk about it. Anyway, the reveal is. It's just such a. If you're familiar, people might be familiar with the character of Agent Burke. And no, not from Heroes.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Oh, yes. It's an Agent Burke from the TV show Heroes. Agent Burke from the G.I. Joe. Yeah. As played by Michael Kelly. Yeah, so we get Noah, the human hero of the movie. He's just going to a regular job interview. He wants to go to a regular job interview and he goes in there
Starting point is 01:06:31 and they're like, hmm, you certainly. Where's your resume? Where's your resume? I've read this stuff so much. And he's like, oh, well, I got up some stuff recently and they're like, with the Transformers, we know all about it because guess what? And he's like, no, no, never heard of them.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Won't hear of them. Won't hear about it. And they're like, well, it looks like this is just a, I don't know, a fish market or something. Well, actually, we've got a big warehouse behind us. And look at this. Look at this warehouse. Let's crack this.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Turn this thing and big doors open and we see a big warehouse with nothing in it, just an empty warehouse. And a jet under construction maybe. Maybe. I don't know. But he empty warehouse. And a jet under construction maybe. Maybe. I don't know. But he's like, we're actually a secret organization. You thought this was just a regular movie, but actually we've got a Nick Fury vibe thing happening at the end here.
Starting point is 01:07:19 We're actually a big team and we look after big stuff that happens. I mean, we didn't do anything in this instance. No, we didn't. We just sat back and did nothing. Yeah. But we were busy. I hurt my leg. So, but if you want to be on the team, you're a guy who could be on this team.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Yep. Because you wore a robot suit once. Yeah, that's right. And I think that's important. And that's a thing we did in a different continuity. Yeah, in the future, I think. Anyway, we're G.I. Joe. And you know this because despite this completely empty warehouse behind me,
Starting point is 01:07:44 I've handed you a business card that says G.I. Joe on the back. And his name, Agent Burke. Yeah, right, yeah. It's not G.I. Joe, Mason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, what they should have done is, and I know people have talked
Starting point is 01:07:56 about it, that John Cena was actually Duke in Bumblebee and that interview was with John Cena. Yeah. That's, that's. No, no, no, i not it's it shouldn't be with john cena it should be with michael kelly because i love him as a character actor but then you open the thing and it's john cena is there and he's like and he's in a big tank or something yeah he's like this is gi joe baby and we'd be like yes but this is nothing yeah
Starting point is 01:08:20 and look i understand it's like remember the end of Fantastic Four 2015 when they look over that nothing space? Yeah. And I think the obvious example is they've just acquired the movie. Apparently his name is Jack Burns, the John Cena character. All right. Wow. Yeah, anyway, go on. Probably they've just acquired this license maybe.
Starting point is 01:08:42 No, it's Hasbro. Yeah, okay. Well, then I guess maybe they haven't locked down the aesthetic of what they want it to be yet. So they wouldn't want to be like, well, here's Snake Eyes because they haven't redesigned Snake Eyes. Or here's the iconic G.I. Joe tank or whatever because we haven't decided what it's going to look like yet.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah. But also, who cares? Who cares? The tank in the next movie will be different. Will be different, exactly. Just like all the Transformers look different. Imagine if they open it up and there was like a bunch of G.I. Joe vehicles in there. Or a bunch of G.I. Joes.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Or they were watching Snake Eyes on DVD. They were watching Snake Eyes on DVD, exactly. Like, where'd you get this technology? How'd they know about Snake Eyes? They made this movie about Snake Eyes. So I guess is this in the Snake Eyes continuity, do you think? Would you say so? When's Snake Eyes set?
Starting point is 01:09:29 Who cares? We'll do it next week, actually. It's the perfect opportunity to do the Snake Eyes movie. But just I'm fascinated by a big reveal of nothing. I know. Because we've just seen a giant robot planet attempt to consume the world and then we as an audience who have sat for an extra couple of minutes to watch this post-credits,
Starting point is 01:09:50 we are supposed to be impressed by an empty room. Yeah, man. I thought there was going to be a pan down or something interesting. Snake Eyes. Snake Eyes might have been there. Duke. Duke. Brendan Fraser's character.
Starting point is 01:10:01 I thought about Brendan Fraser's character. You know what I mean? People are like, oh, my goodness, Brendan Fraser. Is he going to be in the next one? No, he's not. I'm trying to work out when Snake Eyes is set. I can't figure it out. But I don't think it was in the 80s or early 90s.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I don't think it was. Yeah. But no, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I hope there's another one of these so we can build an award category around it. Do you think maybe if they had just handed him the card and maybe not opened a big room of nothing, it would have been more interesting?
Starting point is 01:10:25 Yes. I agree. And it would have cost less. I mean, you open a door to, the room wasn't even that big. No. There were probably bigger warehouses prior in the movie that we'd already forgotten about because we're not interested in looking at warehouses in this movie.
Starting point is 01:10:39 We're interested in looking at Transformers. If you had been in that interview room, like if I was in that interview room and they opened the fake wall and there's a warehouse, I'd be like, why is this behind a fake wall? Yeah. Like this is nothing. Are you selling drugs?
Starting point is 01:10:55 Are you putting drugs in your fish? This is like an illegal like fish market or something. What is this? Incredible. Anyway, on the future of this, this is via Stephen Caple Jr., who's 10 years older than me. He said, the Joes are really cool, and I would love to see what I could do with them.
Starting point is 01:11:12 There are sections of the Joes that haven't been utilized and characters that have never been touched, and I'm excited about that. I will say this about what's next. We've spent a lot of time on Earth, and I'm curious as to see what is out there. So apparently it's going to be, this is a Unicron trilogy. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Unicron didn't change into a big man. That's true. And that's part of the Unicron canon. Sometimes he's in Earth. That happens too. That's true. That is very true. Depends on which Unicron.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Unless that's a different guy who just has the name Unicron. Yeah. It depends like what Unicron you worship. Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's Unicron with a C and Unicron with a K. Sometimes there's a Steven with a V and a Steven with a PH. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:11:49 So anyway, let's do some reviews. How about that? Okay, great. This is from Noah who said, just saw Transformers, and I've got to say, I loved it. Did I think it was good? Probably not, but as a lifelong fan, it gave me a lot of what I wanted,
Starting point is 01:12:00 toy box style action and memorable characters. Is this in the running for the game is on? Well, remains to be seen. I'm going to need a lot of time to think about yeah danny boy the pipes the pipes uh says i'm not watching transformers i'm slowly getting drunk while making alfredo and listening to the weekly planet 2017 my wife is asleep on the couch there's a youtube ambience video with palm trees on the tv it's beautiful i know this is palm tree is like the hawaiian shirt of chuckles gi know. Palm Tree is like the Hawaiian shirt of Chuckles, G.I. Joe undercover agent who could have been in that warehouse picking out a Hawaiian shirt for his undercover operation.
Starting point is 01:12:31 He was an undercover mason. As a fish. Yeah, maybe. It's from 4Progress who says, Transformers, Rosso De Beast feels like a studio really trying to regain a billion-dollar franchise. Better human actors,
Starting point is 01:12:43 crap plot, Peter Cullen needs a Prime movie, contender for the Gamers' Honor Award. And Dan says, just saw Transformers and I had fun with it. Certainly a step backwards after Bumblebee, but I was happy to see that they kept up with the tradition of Optimus Prime being a bloodthirsty psychopath. So, yeah, as mentioned, part of a trilogy.
Starting point is 01:13:01 The next Transformers movie we're getting is set mid-next year and it's a prequel purely animated movie. I think ILM are doing it and it's called Transformers 1 and Chris Hemsworth is voicing Optimus Prime. Oh, I did know that. And also Orion Pax who is Optimus Prime's mate. That's right. His room mate.
Starting point is 01:13:22 That's their good friend. Their good friends. Their good friends. Good friends. So that I am looking forward to. I don't know if I love that casting. Yes. But the best Transformers movie is the first five minutes of the movie Bumblebee.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Agreed. So if we could do something like that, I don't think it'll be this super ultra realistic style because that is expensive to do. But I did like in this movie where they all fought in a big grey field. I don't think it'll be this super ultra-realistic style because that is expensive to do. But I did like in this movie where they all fought in a big grey field. That was pretty good, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And there was a big grey bridge in it and there was a scorpion and there was a moment when Optimus Prime will bash the guy's head in with a big boulder or whatever. That's true. I liked the bit where they were sort of going up like an Aztec step sort of situation. It was like a nice greenery. I thought that was where they were sort of going up like an Aztec. Step. Step sort of situation. It was like a nice greenery. I thought that was pretty good. Looked real and legit.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah. Yeah. All in all, they made it. They sure did. Yeah. And we've made it. We have made it. Should we move it along?
Starting point is 01:14:16 Yes. But what are we going to do? We could do another segment of the show. Yeah. Which we've been doing for literally years. So I'm surprised you don't remember it, but it's called What We Read and What We Gonna Read. It's not up to me to remember things, Mason. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:27 That's not my job. It's true. All right, we're still going to do some Transformers spoilers, so if you're here, there'll be a time code. Yeah, we were talking off air. Yes, if you can even imagine such a thing. I know, right? We try not to.
Starting point is 01:14:40 But basically, what do you do with G.I. Joe? Yeah, and I said we need the colorful characters you need like you need because there's a there's a bunch of different guys there's the demolitions guy there's a snow guy and there's a what have you and all the all there's a ray stevenson guy whose bike breaks into different rockets exactly and then you break the guy out of the prison or whatever and he's a different actor now yeah all that sort of stuff but you they haven't cast any of that so they couldn't put it in any of them they couldn't put it in the post credits also like also also cobra also cobra has
Starting point is 01:15:11 interesting vehicles i think it's cobra cobra has different different vehicles like interesting vehicles like the hiss tank tank treads but snake based warfare ah but geo joe doesn't really so i guess you could just like it, just Jeeps and shoes. It's just Jeeps. I guess they would just open the hangar and just be filled with Jeeps, I guess. No, they've got those bouncy mech suits. I hate those.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I hate them too. Awful. Yeah. But also the idea of like putting together a G.I. Joe team and doing it in one movie, it's hard because that's just a superhero team, but everybody's just in different colored pants. That's right. And one's a grenade guy.
Starting point is 01:15:49 One has a mustache. There's a girl who can do karate or whatever, you know, this is what they do. And I just don't know other than like. It's a bearded lady. Yeah. It's a bunch of circus people. And I just. It's a construction worker.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Yep. Native American. Yeah. All of these different things, yeah. I just don't. G-I-J-O-E. It's fun to stay in the G-I-J-O-E. Warehouse that we all live in.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Yeah, I don't know. I think the idea of pairing them with Transformers, I get that and it makes sense because, again, it's two brands coming together, but I find the Transformers. Perfect. I get it. I find the idea. The fact that you didn't say that with a deep sigh
Starting point is 01:16:32 shows just how far deep into the machine we are, that we didn't just go, I get pairing the G.I. Joes and Transformers because you're putting two brands together. You don't want to see a Transformers G.I. Joe battleship movie all Hasbro? I would love that, actually. Yeah, slash Clue, slash the movie, slash Operation.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Oh, yep. If that is Hasbro. Yeah. But I don't, I mean, I don't know. I mean, just in the- I'm going to respond there. He's like, I can't get my fingers in to get the wishbone out. You'll have to do it, computer lady.
Starting point is 01:17:03 It's all right. No, they blew it up. No, I'll hit it with my sword. I mean, I did it. I don't know. I just, I think you know, they tried it with Snake Eyes. They thought, let's pare it back and focus on one character and that didn't work. Bad move, not interesting.
Starting point is 01:17:15 I don't know, man. I don't know. Yeah. I just think maybe G.I. Joe is not the answer to all our problems. Unless they've changed. You know what they should have done? They should have put a different organisation name on the card in different regions or in different cinemas
Starting point is 01:17:33 and see what people responded to. So in Australia it would be like Melbourne Zoo. Yeah. In France it would be, I don't know, the grave of Jim Morrison or something. No, Jimi Hendrix. Who's that? know, the grave of Jim Morrison or something. No, Jimi Hendrix. Who's that? Yeah, Jim Morrison. Jim Morrison, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Or we could just say Al-Qaeda. No. No, Mason. That's bad. To transform this team up with Al-Qaeda. I could say FaZe Clan. Oh, that's bad too, Mason. That's awful.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Because there was, was it DC, I think, maybe did a Batman comic where he had to team up with FaZe Clan. He's like, I can't solve this mystery. I'm going to have to contact FaZe Clan. And now they're all getting cancelled. Yeah, all the original ones. Yep, Batman, FaZe Clan number one. Guess when it came out?
Starting point is 01:18:23 Last year. Was it last year? I was going to say 2015 maybe. My goodness. Yeah. Guess when it came out? Last year. Was it last year? I was going to say 2015 maybe. My goodness. Wow. Anyways. Yeah. Let's do the other segment we were going to do.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Okay. What we read, what we're going to read. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Letters. Go on. We'll be after that. I'll be the wrong segment.
Starting point is 01:18:48 I've been doing a deep dive on like old Indiana Jones games and comics and stuff like that. That's right, yeah. Obviously we're doing the movies at the moment for Caravan of Garbage, but we're doing some bonus stuff at Big Sandwich. So that's what I've basically been doing, going through Indiana Jones stuff and being like, wow, there's really not a lot of this, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:06 and even less of it is good. That is why people have dropped off the Indiana Jones train, I think. Plus Indiana Jones kicked them off. That's right. The big kick to the face. That's right. When's that? A couple of weeks?
Starting point is 01:19:17 June? Yeah, 28. Okay. Terrific. Yeah, I think we can see it a week earlier if we want to go to the parade. Yeah, right. Which, you know, we can see it a week earlier if we want to go to the Peruvian. Which, you know, we'll see. We sure will.
Starting point is 01:19:30 What are you doing, though? I've watched a couple of things. In Australia, the first episode of the new season of Utopia came out. Oh, cool. Which is a workplace comedy in the style of The Office, which is sort of – it's in a government agency. Yeah, it's good. It's really funny.
Starting point is 01:19:44 A bit of fun. And I also watched a couple of episodes of a show which I think is on Amazon Video Worldwide, Deadlock. I watched Deadlock. Yeah. I'm going to talk about Unsuggestable. Oh, great. So Deadlock, do people know the Kates? They might do.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Kate McLennan and Kate McCartney. They wrote a couple of things. They wrote The Catering Show, which is sort of a satire of cooking shows and stuff like that, and they did Get Crackin', which was a satirical morning show. Yes. I think that got some attention.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Both of those got a lot of attention worldwide. There was a Thermomix episode of The Catering Show, which people really enjoyed. But they've written an Australian TV comedy murder show called Deadlock. Set in the fictional town of Tasmania. The fictional town of Tasmania, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's about a couple of detectives who are sort of thrown together
Starting point is 01:20:33 to solve the case and it's funny and dark. It is. It's a really good blend of like the murder mystery elements with the comedy I feel. They've hit that balance like really, really well. And who's the murderer? We don't know yet so maybe at the end we'll be like nah I don't like that
Starting point is 01:20:48 but no I really like the stuff that they do and I like their kind of style of comedy and this is kind of all of that packaged together really well I hope this is doing well like internationally as well I know it's doing well here but I yeah so that's really cool
Starting point is 01:21:03 I re-watched I said this to you earlier Auntie Donna's, and I re-watched, I said this to you earlier, Auntie Donna's Coffee Cafe. Oh, yeah. I re-watched it again. I've got to watch that again as well. It's good. It's a good show, in my opinion. I just have to use ABC, Ivy, Mason, my favorite app.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Well, they do a bit in the show, don't they, about how it doesn't work. I've never had a problem with it. Really? Touch wood. Oh, no. You've said it now, haven't you? Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Mason, should we move to the next segment of the show? Yep, it's called Letters. Was it? Yep. Okay. Here we go. Oh, is there a've said it now, haven't you? Yeah, that's right. Mason, should we move to the next segment of the show? Yep, it's called Letters. Was it? Yep. Okay. Here we go. Oh, is there a theme song? Sorry.
Starting point is 01:21:32 I didn't realise. We're going to hear it right now. We're going to do Letters. Your eye is twitching, James. I feel like I petted a cat. I'm coughing too. What's going on? I feel like I petted a cat and touched my eye.
Starting point is 01:21:45 The eye feels like that. Yeah. Yeah. Is this room lined with cats? Dead cats? It's filling with poisonous gas. Oh, okay. Well, that's perfect. It might be it. Fall in a bit. Are you allergic to poisonous gas? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Quite badly allergic. You tell me now. I get a rash on my neck. Anything cyanide,
Starting point is 01:22:02 arsenic, I'm like, ah, yuck. That's no good. Scratching, good scratching i gotta put some lotion on it mason in terms of letters this is how people reach the show they hashtag weekly planet pod on twitter or they send you a gmail to weekly planet pod at gmail.com that's right what do you got this week for us great quick slash do you want me to just read a letter i think you should do that this is from batcat who says hashtag weekly planet pod i was wondering brackets hoping you could consider bringing back your week-to-week breakdowns just for the new Loki series coming up.
Starting point is 01:22:29 I know it killed you and raw cullings. Oh, no, my battery's running low. Is that in the email? It's in the email. No, it's me. What do you think? Do they think they're in danger or something? Yeah, they might be.
Starting point is 01:22:38 But I personally love them and his edits were a thing of beauty. Look, probably not. We might do audio only. If we were going to do it, I think we'd do it audio only to take the pressure off certain people. Me. Me. They weren't fun. I think it got to the point where it's a lot of work for like,
Starting point is 01:22:58 I don't know, I was going to say for not a lot of work. A million dollars an episode. A million dollars an episode. It's a lot to get out of video that quickly and whatever. But that was probably the, if we were going to do one, it would probably be that series. Yeah, probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:13 But, you know. Or Twisted Metal. Or Twisted Metal, obviously. Can't believe they haven't shown us any cars yet, we would say. Yeah. Then we could just copy and paste that every episode. We're on the finale and there's no cars yet. When are they going to twist some metal?
Starting point is 01:23:25 Those cars aren't even made of metal. They're made of fiberglass. Wow. Incredible. Five stars. I agree. Here's an email from John. John?
Starting point is 01:23:34 He says, you guys mentioned that you disliked Death of comics last week, and while I agree it's a dumb tactic to boost sales, I enjoyed the death of Doctor Strange. Doctor Strange dies in issue one, which triggers a spell he put in place just after he got his powers that brings the younger, inexperienced version of Strange to the modern day to solve his own murder.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Maybe I should read that. Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah. This seems like a candidate if you ask me for the Big Sandwich Classic comic book. Alright then. That's cool then. We'll do it. Okay, thank you, John. Appreciate that, John. Good email. Good email. This time. We'll do it. Okay. Thank you, John. Appreciate that, John. Good email. Good email. This time. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll put that on my list of things and hopefully not forget it. Nice. Yeah, because that does sound really interesting. This is from Gareth Jones. He said, we're watching Last Crusade in prep for Caravan of Garbage in a couple weeks'
Starting point is 01:24:20 time. It's this week for those of you who are interested. Hope you mentioned that the Nazi that gets hit with the periscope is Nick Gillard, stunt coordinator for the Star Wars prequels, responsible for so many flips. I did not know that and that is not in the video. Wow. But, yeah, Nick Gillard, who you might know as the Jedi Syndra League also.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I don't. Yeah, he did all the Corey, Corey, Corey Mason on the prequels. I did the Corey, Corey, Corey. And, yeah, and now I can picture that guy in my head, and, yeah, that is obviously Nick Gillard. So great spot, Gareth. I did not know that. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Taught me something. And, honestly, most of the things people send me, I already know or I said it in the video they're commenting on. Nice. Yeah. Nice. Here's now an email from Ronnie. Ronnie?
Starting point is 01:25:01 Hi, James and Mason. So I'm Ronnie from Portland, Oregon, and I've been listening and re-listening to you guys and Claire on that other less successful podcast and work across two different jobs for something like seven years. My question is, with the boom in multiverse stories, I was wondering what rebooted
Starting point is 01:25:16 franchises or even works from an individual writer, producer, actor would you like to see collapse in on themselves? I've always wanted to see the Sandlerverse or Stephen King multiverse movies since they apparently take place in their own respective timelines. Oh, my God. Honourable mention to the Tarantinoverse, Ronnie from Portland.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Coming together, yeah. So Stephen King's all his works. They're all loosely connected by. Yeah, by the Dark Tower. Yeah. And there are so many references. There's a big magic turtle in it or something. There's a big magic turtle in it, yeah. Yeah. It's Turtle from. It's Turtle from Entourage. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And there are so many references. And there's a big magic turtle in it or something. There's a big magic turtle in it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Yeah. It's turtle from. It's turtle from Monterey. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. He actually, yeah, he elevated himself so much. He became so much.
Starting point is 01:25:53 He got so much power. From his tequila brand or whatever. He siphoned off Vinny Chase. He became an interdimensional being. Wow, that's beautiful. Yeah. So the Sandaliverse apparently, do they take place all in the same? They might.
Starting point is 01:26:04 There's a really cool, I can't remember the name of the video, but if you Google like Sandliverse, there's a guy like going insane connecting them all. Right. Yeah. I mean, I wonder, I guess I would like to see an original. Sean Coney, they call the Sandliverse. He's got a couple of videos, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:21 I'm sure we've talked about maybe many years ago, but the Tommy Westfall universe, which is of course the the tv there was a tv series called saint elsewhere and one of the the characters in it was set in a hospital yes and one of the characters is a little boy named tommy westfall and in the final episode of the series they pull back the final scene they pull back you see a shot of the hospital it's snowing it pulls back and it's inside a snow globe and Tommy is holding the snow globe. And the idea behind it, the genesis of the theory is that- He's imagining the interconnected lives. Yeah, that means that everything that happened in the show was in his mind.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Yeah. But then because other characters from other TV shows guest starred in St. Elsewhere and then they subsequently went to other, you know, guest starred on other people's shows. It's every show. It's pretty much every show on TV in a certain era was all set in that universe and therefore in this boy's mind. Because it bleeds into like The Simpsons, then that gets into everything.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I would like to see a TV series that riffs on that somehow. And do you get everybody back? No, you couldn't. See, that's the thing. You'd have to do like an original. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:27 You'd have to do new IP. Like you'd have to do like a Lord of the Stars series. What if it was a good doctor styled, like Tommy is the main character? Oh, yeah. You know? Okay. He's got autism superpowers. And he's jumping in between realities.
Starting point is 01:27:43 That sounds really cool. Because his autism is so powerful. Except for the thing you said about that, I don't like that. I don't like that at all. But just something exploring the idea that those are connected in some way. Yeah. That's interesting. I mean, the problem is obviously that – not obviously – that –
Starting point is 01:27:59 Let's see if it's obvious. Okay. I was going to say it needs a kind of a deft hand to put all that sort of stuff together and not make it appear like either a shameless cash grab or just a really awkward because the thing about like the one i think the one i was thinking about that didn't never didn't quite work there's an episode of black mirror yeah it's called black museum oh yeah and it and it's it's some characters go into this place like this this backwater town and it's got a museum and it's filled with pieces from previous Black Mirror episodes.
Starting point is 01:28:28 And some of the ones that are in stories from within that episode also. Yeah, and it just never, it doesn't quite work because they were never really intended to tie in correctly in the first place. It was just a- A lot of them are in different realities. Yeah, and occasionally, you know, occasionally it would be like a character in this episode has the same name as a corporation from another episode or something like that.
Starting point is 01:28:50 They're just nods and they're never an attempt to actually do that. And so trying to do it and going, ah, doesn't this wrap up quite neatly? I don't think it does. Yeah, okay, I get you. I don't know, man. Yeah, so don't do it? Is that what you're saying? Don't do it.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Give it a whirl. Again, it's not my money. Oh, yeah, that's right. I don't care. And you're not going to waste any time on it Yeah, so don't do it. Is that what you're saying? Don't do it. Give it a whirl. Again, it's not my money. Oh, yeah, that's right. I don't care. And you're not going to waste any time on it. You might not even watch it. I might not even watch it or think about it. I might watch a summary of it on YouTube maybe from somebody else
Starting point is 01:29:14 and go, sounds dumb. Who made this crap? New series of Black Mirror is coming out soon. Yeah, absolutely it is. I'm excited for that. Next week, week after. I'm very excited to like at least half of them. I know.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Or did you see Charlie Booker was like, I got JATGDP to write a Black Mirror episode and it was terrible. Yeah, I did see that. It's like, yeah, no, we know. Mason, this is from Fernando who says, hashtag Wicked Planet Pod, I need either a commentary on Caravan of Garbage on Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance.
Starting point is 01:29:42 I know it's not very good, but I love it. And the behind the scenes stuff on all the stunts is pretty insane. You like this movie. I do. And I've never seen it. So I would definitely do a commentary on this. First we have to do the time machine commentary, though. We all have to sit through the time machine.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Yeah, we've done that. Yeah, but it's not out yet. Okay. I'm glad that wasn't you subtly trying to tell me you'd lost the recording. Because, yeah. So that's cool. But, yeah, I would love to do that. We've already done the other Ghost Rider, so why not this one as well, I guess.
Starting point is 01:30:13 And it's got the great Nicolas Cage still. He, of course, made an appearance at some sort of games conference recently. Did he? To promote Dead by Daylight because he's in it. Is he a character or himself? He is himself, but he is like a character. He's like one of the player archetypes, I think. He's not a monster, which I would way prefer him to be a monster.
Starting point is 01:30:31 You have to fight Nicolas Cage. You have to fight Nicolas Cage and he puts you on a big hook or whatever. Oh, no. But he showed up to the event a la Keanu Reeves and he was very earnest. Hey. Exactly. He was like that. I was in the movie Snake Eyes. Not the one you're thinking of.
Starting point is 01:30:43 That's next week. But maybe the one you're thinking of. That's next week. But maybe the one you're thinking of. Because which, actually I'd love to know which Snake Eyes people, Snake Eyes movie people know more about. If at all. Hey, do you want one more letter that is immediately dated? It will never be more dated and minutes after we do it, you'll not understand.
Starting point is 01:31:02 No one will understand. 100%. Is it like the exact time it is now that we're recording this? They just said that through? Yeah, that's right. This is from Will. Yep. Hey, mates, as you may or may not have heard,
Starting point is 01:31:13 Baby Gronk, the number one college football prospect in the country, was rizzed up by Livvy on his recent visit to LSU and stole her from the Drip King. Do you think Baby Gronk is the new Drip King or is Livvy just using him for clout? That's from Will. You're telling me that that's not going to be relevant in 100 years from now.
Starting point is 01:31:30 I'm saying that. I'm saying that I've already forgotten the context. So the Drip King stole a baby from the what? Oh, I'm thinking, is this the movie Labyrinth? Is that what's happening here? No, there's some kid on the internet and he's like 10. You're aware of this. I'm not. There's some kid on the internet and he's like 10. You're aware of this. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:31:48 There's some kid on the internet, he's like 10, and his father's like, this kid's the best footballer. He's going to be the best footballer in the world and everybody's got to pay attention and give me money and I'm not. This is good for my kid. This isn't a scam? No, no.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Okay. This kid's name is Baby Gronk. And he's taking photos with, like, weird influences and stuff. Is he a good footballer? He's 10. I know, but, like, for a 10-year-old. I don't know. I'm not like, yeah, is he tackling grown men in the NFL?
Starting point is 01:32:18 Yeah. Like, I'm aware of that. Okay. But I don't know. It's just this thing happened and I don't like it. Leave your kids alone. Probably doesn't even want to play football. No, Baby Gronk, he sounds like he might want to play some football. Is he a Gronk?
Starting point is 01:32:38 His name's Baby Gronk. What's his actual name? Google Baby Gronk. I don't know. My computer's about to die. Wow, well. This is going to kill it. Dok. I don't know. My computer's about to die. Wow, well. This is going to kill it. Do it.
Starting point is 01:32:46 I don't know about. I'll put Baby Gronk into Twitter. That's his real name. Baby Gronk. I don't really want to know his name. Okay. Is this a parody? His real name's Madden.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I guess like John Madden? Like John Madden, probably. This is insane. Is Baby Gronk actually good at football? He's actually really advanced and very good at football. That's terrific. Plays five sports. A lot of people don't know this about him,
Starting point is 01:33:11 but he's a better baseball player than a football player. I didn't know that. Wow. So that's certainly something I didn't know. How much can Baby Gronk lift? That's a great question. Does Gronk have a punctured lung? These are all very relevant
Starting point is 01:33:25 questions and will remain relevant for the next 100 years maybe gronk can lift a heart 500 pounds on tiktok i doubt it i seriously doubt i think you could beat him up can lift 500 pounds and my computer's off thanks mason no problem You fucking cooked my computer with this nonsense. What's fine? It's all fine. I know, but how am I going to record them? I've got to open my phone for the reviews. Oh, yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Baby Grog stole a zoo animal or whatever happened. Where's your charger? I didn't bring it because I thought I wouldn't need it. Don't look down your eyes, your glasses at me, Mason. Don't prop your glasses onto your nose and then look over them at me in a way that I find condescending. Anyway, perfect ending to a perfect podcast as far as I'm concerned. Folks, thank you so much for listening. If you have any baby Gronk news.
Starting point is 01:34:19 James, I gave you baby Gronk news to save you from Maryland versus Virginia news. You didn't. I appreciate that. I bet it'll be back. I might have vetoed it this week. That's exactly right. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast.
Starting point is 01:34:30 We absolutely appreciate it. If you – we doing okay? Thank you for liking the podcast. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast. Thank you for subscribing on your podcast platform of choice. And while you're there, thank you for leaving a five-star review. James, you got any there on your computer? No, I do.
Starting point is 01:34:46 This is from CNM67. Nice. Five stars, by the way. So easy to do in-app. I love that. Yeah. Maybe you gave us a four-star review. Maybe you could just go back in and bump it up.
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