The Weekly Planet - 485 Indiana Jones and The Dial of Destiny

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

15 years after the second conclusion of the Indiana Jones Trilogy, Harrison Ford is back for one final crack of the whip in Indiana Jones & The Dial Of Destiny. In addition to our extended review of that we also talk the passing of Alan Arkin, The Boys season 4 gets delayed, Red Notice 2 is definitely happening, DCU casting with James Gunn’s Superman Legacy, another trailer for Dune Part 2, Tom Cruise is running about talking movies and more. Thanks for listening!Claire is on tour in the UK and Ireland! Grab tickets and more info here https://www.clairetonti.com/eventsVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:33 Alan Arkin RIP06:41 The Boys S4 Delayed09:15 Red Notice Sequel?12:26 David Corenswet is Superman19:20 New Dune: Part Two Trailer23:54 Tom Cruise Loves Movies29:07 Indiana Jones and The Dial of Destiny Review (spoilers 56:30 to 01:23:26)01:32:26 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:30:25 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Well, there was a moment when my daughter fell in the river. Oh, no. But luckily somebody else got her out of the river who was closer. You were too far away. I was too far away. And also bear in mind if she's listening to this in the future, this person said that she was watching her. So I was like, okay.

Oh, I see. Right, okay. All right. So it was the other person's fault. Yes. Also, she didn't go under. It wasn't deep enough. It was just cold.

Okay, right. So when this comes out in my divorce hearing, this will all be evidence used to exonerate me, Mason. I think so too, yes. Terrific. Speaking of divorce, thank you to those who attended my wife's first show in London. She's currently on tour with album Atrescence.

I'll do some dates later for what we're reading. But before we do that, Mason. Hello. We've got to talk so many big things this week. Big news happened. This is right when you went on holiday. What? Go on holiday again.

More big news will break. Yeah, I think there might be, Mason. Off your trot. Get back in the river. Right now. I wasn't in the river. Put my daughter back in the you trot. Get back in the river. Right. I wasn't in the river. Put my daughter back in the river. Put your daughter back in the river.

Terrific. This is how a lot of athletes and stuff. Yeah. They're like us, like elite athletes. Yeah, like us, yeah. They have a little good luck charm, a little superstition before the game. They'll put on their special underpants or what have you. Oh, yeah.

Yours, I think, is dunk your daughter in the river. And then we get this sweet content. That's right, like a teabag, like a magic teabag. That's exactly right. Yeah, like a screaming teabag. Like a screaming teabag. Anyway, none of this is admissible. That's true.

It's all sarcasm. Also, great name for a punk band, I think, the Screamin' Teabags. Anyways, Mason, News of the Week. Oh, yes. We're going to do some more delays due to the writer's strike. We're going to talk big updates on one of Netflix's finest, some casting for Superman Legacy. It's been locked in.

Comic-Con woes. Trailers ahoy for Dune Part 2. Tom Cruise is out and about, as you might be aware. He's in Australia right now? He's in Australia right now. That's right. Not in Melbourne. He's in Sydney.

Not yet. I think they're probably just going to do Sydney. They don't come to Melbourne, Mason. It's just slightly too far. Maybe when Rove Live was filming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not in Melbourne. He's in Sydney. Not yet. I think they're probably just going to do Sydney. They don't come to Melbourne, Mason. It's just slightly too far. Maybe when Rove Live was filming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not anymore. Well, Rove met him.

Yeah, that's right. Exactly. He didn't invite us, I noticed. I'm fucking believable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Say hi to your mum for me. And then we're going to get into Indiana Jones. I bet it's because they go, the stars are given the itinerary, and they go.

Is this the title of Indiana Jones? Indiana Jones and all the things that you're saying? Yes, exactly right. I bet like your Tom Cruises and so forth, they get given the itinerary for the journey and they're like, okay, well, it's 14 hours to Melbourne, but it's 13 hours and 15 minutes to Sydney. And they're like, well, let's just go to Sydney.

Great. I'll run off the plane. That's right. How much time does that take? And, yeah, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, which is the big movie everybody's always talking plane. That's right. How much time does that take? And, yeah, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, which is the big movie everybody's always talking about. That's right. For this weekend.

We'll never stop talking about it until next week when we maybe will briefly mention it again. Yep. Like some subsequent thoughts or like, you know, box office performance. We'll talk about the end of the year when they're like, oh, yeah, we saw that. That came out this year.

That's right. Along with other movies that came out. Anyways, there are time codes below which colleagues who are at assist put in if you're doing a jump to anything in particular? But I'm going to start with the death of a legend in Alan Arkin. That's right. Very sad. Very sad.

One of the great character actors, I think. Absolutely. 50-year career at least, I would say. I mean, I saw a picture of him with hair, and I'm like, wow. I had no idea. Like, he's been around forever. He's been around since Alan Arkin had hair. That's right.

You know what I mean? Born in 1934, so that's since Alan Arkin had hair. That's right. You know what I mean? Born in 1934. So that's what we're talking about here. That's right. I reckon people would remember him. Our listeners probably remember him from Little Miss Sunshine. Yep. He's got a bunch of great scenes in that.

Abigail Breslin has a really nice story about working with him. She posted to social media and whatnot. Yeah. Are you going to relay it here? I wasn't there. It's not my story to tell. Okay. Well, then you should probably go to her Instagram.

It was in Argo. Yep. It was great in Argo. He's in a great movie from the 70s called The In-Laws with Peter Falk. It's a good movie. Yeah, right. Yeah. But he was also in the movie Catch-22.

I'll see if I can find this. Yeah. He was in Catch-22. I haven't seen that movie. I've seen the new series. Maybe I'll watch that one. He was in Catch-22 and Mad Magazine did a parody of it. I think it was called Catch All 22. Nice.

Yeah, absolutely it was. But he wrote in to Mad Magazine. He wrote, I was struck deeply by the richness of your Catch All 22 piece. The beauty of the artwork and the sensitivity of the prose merged into a fine and vivid tapestry. The only criticism I had was your occasional attempt at humour, but it was so slight that it

didn't really affect the main fabric of the piece. With admiration, Alan Arkin. Very good. Gross point blank. That's right. The Rocketeer. Yeah. Which is a lot of fun, if you've ever seen it. If you're looking for an Indiana Jones-esque romp, then watch The Dial of Destiny. Watch The Dial of Destiny,

obviously. Rush to cinemas and then watch Captain America. You don't really have to rush to cinemas. I mean, you have to rush to cinemas in the sense that you won't be able to watch it in like three weeks. No. Well, you should – because if you want to watch it, you're an old man. So go as fast as you can to cinemas.

As you can safely. Go as fast as you can safely. Yeah. Obviously get one of your family members to drive you to the cinema. You could get an escort. That would be good. Yeah. He was really funny.

Get one of your children to navigate the online purchasing of a ticket. That's right, yeah. He was really funny in Get Smart, which is an okay movie, but he was great in. And Glen Gary, Glen Ross, of course. So, yeah, just incredible roles all around. Great innings and fantastic career. Apparently a very nice bloke, so, yeah.

According to Abigail Breslin. If she's ever going to tell us that story. And nobody else. Apparently a very nice bloke. Yeah. According to Abigail Breslin. If she's ever going to tell us that story. And nobody else. That's right. Stone cold silence from the rest of the cast of Little Miss Sunshine. That's right. I assume. What's Dano got to say about this?

What's Steve Carell got to say about this? What do you got to say? Probably similar nice stories. Is he in that movie? Steve Carell? Yeah. Yes. He's the dad.

I thought it was... No, it's Greg Kinnear, isn't it? No. Little Miss Sunshine? Yes, it's Steve Carell. You're thinking of the movie Mystery Men. No, you're thinking of the movie Get Smart. Fuck it is him. They're both in it! Yeah. But Greg Kinnear's the dad though, right?

So who's Steve Carell? Maybe he's the uncle. I can't remember. Oh my god. Wow. It remember. Oh, my God. Wow. It's very indie just looking at these images. Extremely twee indie from that era. My goodness. Anyways, we've got to move it along.

And we're going to talk about delays, but it's good because pay your writers money. If you wouldn't mind. There might be an actor strike. That's right, yeah. We're going to talk about that this week. Early days, obviously. Now, we like to bring this up most weeks just to let people know that the reason why there is a delay and there's going to be a slew of absolute junk content over the next year is because people aren't being paid properly.

That's right. And I know some people might say, well, actually, blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever. We just pay people the money that they can live with. Also, there's no valid points in what you just said then. Exactly. You just said whatever, whatever. It didn't even make any sense. people the money that they can live with. Also, there's no valid points in what you just said then. Exactly. You just said whatever, whatever. It didn't even make any sense.

Try to think of a coherent point if you're going to come at us. If you're going to come at us as an obvious straw man that we've made up, if you could at least say some things in that sentence. But you didn't, did you? Ha-ha. And that's typical of you. QED. We've got him.

We've absolutely got him there. So Eric Kripke gave an update on The Boys Season 4, and he wrote on Twitter, Update 1, when Season 4 drops depends on how long the hashtag WGA strike goes. No answer yet. Tell the studios to make a fair deal. So a fan asks, how is the show affected? Seemings has already been filmed and the production is wrapped,

and Kripke revealed that there's a good amount of dialogue, which we write in post, that the actors come back to record called ADR to help bridge story gaps or clarify plot points. So he stressed that writing must be at every stage of the process and that is true. There's not just a script and it's locked in. Again, we've talked about this. There's rewrites on the day, there's improvised things as mentioned, there's ADR. There'd be a lot of cut to news reports and et cetera. Did it, did it, did it. Exactly. A rude thing happened on the boys.

Very rude. This is the rudest thing the boys have done, yes. Anyway, you can use that if you want. That's fine. That's right. We don't mind. We're not bound by the WJS. You can use that.

We'll scab for you. It was gross too. That's right. Somebody exploded. It was gross. Some went in an orifice. But not the one you all think. A new and different one.

You haven't seen this on the show yet. Boy, was it rude. Stuff should be going out of that, not into it. Bloody hell. Yuck. Yeah. Makes good TV though. Boy, does it.

Speaking of. I was going to say, before I forget, according to different sources, Deadpool 3 is either finished or it's not finished yet. I don't know. I mean, they moved it forward. Yeah. So I don't know.

Who knows? We'll find out, I guess. Yeah. I don't know what the plan is there, but everything worked out fine the last time a Deadpool movie happened through the writer's strike. Yeah. Scott from NerdSync did a video on that as well.

All right. In relation to Deadpool and the writer's strike and all that, if you're interested. But anyway, Mason, what we have to do right now, and you're going to hate this, we're going to have to put down our phones and stop watching the movie Red Notice. Oh, well, come on.

Which we're both watching on separate devices and on this television in this room. And on the fridge. Yeah. We put it up on the fridge. Just for a second. But good news, it's because Red Notice 2 may be on the way. Yes!

Now, as people know. Redder still. This is the, damn, this Red Notice is even redder. That must mean we're in more trouble and we need more celebrity cameos. Woo! So, as people may be aware, Red Notice is touted as the thing that has been watched

more than anything else ever. That's right. And we know that's true. Absolutely. Why would a streaming service which relies on it concealing its viewing numbers lie to us about any streaming numbers? And also to boost their numbers but also not pay people. It's that weird line.

It is. Oh, you heard about Squid Game this week. So the guy who made Squid Game just didn't get paid residuals. He barely got paid anything. Because he was in the position where he had that idea and they were like... We want that. Yeah, we'll take that, but also in order to put it up

and get it made, we're not going to pay you. It made them $900 million, by the way. Yeah, right. So, yeah, whatever. Whatever's fine. He doesn't need any of that. Yeah. But they will make the reality TV version. Yes. Because it's cheaper. Because it's way cheaper. They don't need any of that yeah but they will make

the reality TV version yes because it's cheaper because it's way cheaper they don't need anybody to write anything that's right yeah and if you just get

everybody to sign waivers you can kill them it's fine that's right Collider spoke with Gal Gadot and she said we're talking about it Red Nerdist 2

oh yeah no doubt I don't know if I can say anything I already read the second script and it's woo we're all very excited about it aren't we she means us oh yeah yeah We're all very excited about it, aren't we? She means us.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all very excited. We were in the room. Yeah. Yeah, we're very excited. Thank you. Yeah, so there you go. Now, as someone who has watched Red Notice, you, both of us have.

You've never watched it. I haven't. I want to. Yeah. I really want to, Mason. I want to. But what happens is you go to Netflix and you click on Red Notice and it's like, sorry, too many people watching it currently.

Try back again in 30 minutes. It's like getting Taylor Swift tickets. Exactly. Watching Red Notice. Get in line. How was this in terms of sequels? Do the characters of Red and Notice, do you feel like they're worthy of a sequel? Oh, I'm sure that it was very built from the ground up around the idea of,

well, the next adventure's on the way. So, I mean, there wouldn't be a problem there. Who did they run into at the end to tell them there's a next adventure on the way? Oh, they didn't, but it was just if I can spoil the plot of Red Notice, and obviously I can because everyone's seen it multiple times. If I recall, the reveal was even though it looked like there were three independent operators, the Rock and Gal Gadot's characters

are married, I think. Oh. So they were actually working together against Ryan Reynolds. It was like the movie Maverick, the movie where the two Mavericks in it were actually father and son Mavericks. That's right. Mel Gibson and James Maverick. Yeah.

That's right. James Garner. Wow. They took the Maverick movie twist? Yeah, they did. They said it at the time. Ryan Reynolds was like, this is a very Maverick movie twist, wink. So does. This is so Maverick movie twist? Yeah, they did. They said it at the time. Ryan Reynolds was like, this is a very Maverick movie twist, wink. So does.

This is so Maverick. Does Ryan Reynolds, so do you think in a new movie, Ryan Reynolds will also have a wife or whatever? He might have a wife. We could get a wife in. Damn, that's crazy. His actual, we could get Blake Lively. Oh, yeah.

Actual wife. Actual wife, yeah. That could work. Great. Well, this sounds exciting. Yeah. Not as exciting as this, though. Go on.

Superman legacy casting announcement. Ooh, two big confirmations. This is very exciting. That's right. David Corenswet. We're assuming that's how it's pronounced. Yep, until he pronounces it a different way. He's going to be Clark Kent slash Carlisle slash Superman.

And Rachel Brosnahan. That's correct. As Lois Lane. Now, they've both been on House of Cards, which is interesting. Sure. I don't know a lot about David Corenswet. He's in Pearl, which is interesting. Sure. I don't know a lot about David Curran's, but he's in Pearl, which is the X prequel.

Yes. Rachel Brosnahan, people will know, obviously, is Midge Maisel, housewife and aspiring stand-up comedian in The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. But our listeners will probably better know her as that woman who wouldn't give up that gosh darn golden arm in the episode The Golden Arm of whatever that Quibi series was. That's right. She just wouldn't give up that gosh darn golden arm. In the episode, the golden arm of whatever that Quibi series was. That's right. She just wouldn't give up that arm. You thought it was the woman from Westworld, but it wasn't.

It was this woman. That's right. It's a different woman. She's in that. 50 States of Fright is what it was called. The Quibi series that promised to do 50 horror stories in one in each state of America, but did like two. I loved it.

Yeah, me too. Genuinely. Sam Raimi directed it? Yeah, yeah. But it's interesting that both of these actors have been in sort of period movies, like, you know, set in the past. So they've got – I imagine they got screen tested for, like, modern day but also, like, what if we give them a little retro look?

Absolutely, yeah. What if we give them, like, a golden age Superman and Lois Lane look and see how that works out? I think there might be a bit of that. James Gunn has taken to Twitter and he said, accurate. They are not only both incredible actors, but also wonderful people. Now apparently they beat out the likes of Nicholas Holt and Tom Brittany

plus Emma Mackey and Phoebe Dynevor. Okay. Some of those names I know and some I do not. So we've got another British Superman and a criticism has been... Is he British? I believe so. No, he's American. Well, we've got another American Superman. Okay, great. Just like Christopher Reeve. Yep, he's American. Who I think is

American and not Canadian. Is he? I just assumed with that name he was British. He was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Whoa! He was born with a Philly cheesesteak by his side. That's beautiful. That's great. You lie a Philly cheesesteak by his side. I think that's beautiful. That's great. Yeah.

You lie a baby on it and you keep them warm. That's right. Like the steak and the baby. That's right. Yeah. Graduated from Juilliard. That's not bad. Yep.

Okay. Do you think he's too skinny? I know you said that. I never said that, but also people remember HGH exists. By that I mean natural, natural working out, all natty. All natty all the time. That's how they all do it. I think, you know, I mean, again, I don't really know much about him,

but I like the idea of bringing in somebody who's not super well-known as Superman. Yep. But if they say that he can embody this character in whatever, whatever, then great, which was the official statement. That's right. Yeah, whatever, whatever, then great, which was the official statement. That's right. Yeah, whatever, whatever. Apparently two Skarsgårds also might be up for the role of Lex Luthor.

Which ones? The father and son. Great. What do you think of that? But there's a bunch of fathers and sons, aren't there? Of Skarsgårds? Yes. Is there?

Well, there's. Oh, there's Bill. Yes. Has he got a brother? He probably has a brother, right? Aren't they all? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

How many of these Skarsgårds are actually related and how many are not related? I think they're all related. So Stellan Skarsgård. Yeah, Stellan Skarsgård's the dad. Yes. Has he got a brother? He's the one in Rogue One prequel. Yes.

Yeah. Hang on, let me check. Okay. Brother. Oh, brother. It's interesting. Nicholas Holt has missed out on Batman and Superman. Yeah. Well, he might be Batman. Oh, yeah. No, that me check. Okay. Brother. It's interesting Nicholas Holt has missed out on Batman and Superman. Yeah.

Well, he might be Batman. Oh, yeah. No, that's true. Yeah, we don't know for sure yet, do we? I guess, yeah. He's not the Batman, but he could be a Batman. Yeah, absolutely. Nicholas Holt is a Batman.

A Batman. So, yeah, apparently Alexander and Bill. So, one was Tarzan and recently in succession, One was the clown from It. That's right. I think either of those are great choices. That's fine. I like a big Lex Luthor. Give me a big one. That's what I say.

Someone who's like formidable. I like that idea a lot. Jesse Eisenberg. It might have been your favorite Lex Luthor, but I think they could have taken that in a different direction and now they can. It is perfect. Yeah.

That's great. I'm still holding out hope for Dave Bautista as Dr Hugo Strange. I like that. I would be shocked if he does not appear in the DCU, Mason, as a character. Unless he's already appeared. Let me think. Is he in the Suicide Squad?

No, he was going to be, but then he got. Glass Onion? No, I think he got, it was either that. I think he did the Snyder movie instead. Oh, okay. Army of the Dead. Yeah, but he was going to be in it. All right.

So yeah, there you bloody go. There I bloody go. Again. There you go again. Yeah, there I go again. Well, it's not every day we get a new Superman. The last time was like 2011. So, well, for movies, I should say.

But you know. And I said at the time, too skinny. Did you? Yep. And he was right. Yep, that's right. He was right, everybody. Yeah, I should say. And I said at the time, too skinny. Did you? Yep. And he was right. Yep, that's right. He was right, everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I said no matter how far that Henry Cavill bulks up, he'll never be thick enough for me with two Cs. You watching The Witcher Season 3? Nope. Everyone hates it, basically. Do they really? Apparently. I don't know.

I didn't watch the end of Season 1 or Season 2. I mean, I guess they're in a position where obviously that version of the character is not going to exist in the next season. It's going to be Liam Hemsworth. Apparently there's going to be an in-universe reason why he looks different. Oh, some sort of snake oil potion or something. Yeah, like a jar of acid gets thrown at him.

Yeah, right. And a witch shoots him in the face and whatever. Or he says, I wish I looked like Liam Hemsworth. And the genie's like, yes. I could make you Chris, but you've locked into it now. That's right. Yeah. So, yeah.

That's fun. If it happens, they could cancel it. Oh, it's not filming. Not currently, I believe. Okay. Yeah. Terrific. Well, because writer's strike.

Yep. Mason. Hello. DC. As in the DC, you are also skipping Comic-Con this year. That's right. Which makes DC, Marvel, Star Wars, I don't know, probably Indiana Jones.

What is this Comic-Con going to be about then? Comics? Yuck. Yucky. I'd rather not. Yeah. I'd rather not, thank you. No, sir.

But, you know, that does leave the door open for announcements in maybe some image stuff, maybe a new universe is starting. Maybe the Miller World on Netflix. Maybe the Miller World will announce and cancel another thing. Exactly. There's always that opportunity. So it's interesting that even though they've done this casting, they're still not going because they could be like,

here's your Superman and Lois or whatever. That's true, yeah. But, you know. A big finale for Superman and Lois. Did you? I'm not up to date. I won't spoil it for you. Okay.

I need to watch that show right now. All right. Let's do it. Let's turn off. Let's not turn off Red Notice. That's right. Let's finish Red. We've got enough screens that we can do all this.

But give us a minute to think. We made this happen. We can continue to watch Red Notice on all our screens and we can watch an additional thing. We'll switch the podcast off and that'll give us a screen there to watch. It'll give us the juice. Superman and Lois. Or we can watch Red Notice on a fourth screen.

That's a great point, actually. From the start. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. Trailers Ahoy, though. Dune Part 2 has a chicken tutula. What am I doing?

But I liked it. Thanks. This one has Elvis in it. That's right, yeah. That guy. Now he's a big, bald, white Elvis boy. Yeah, I mean, if you were questioning Austin. It's like fighting a sperm.

Yeah. Just one big one. Flapping him out. If you were questioning Austin Butler's commitment to changing his look, if you're like, well, this guy's, you know, he's made it as a big sex symbol. He's Elvis and he's all this sort of stuff. He's not going to turn into a weird pale sperm freak. Well, he is.

He did it. What do you think of that? Too bad. Yeah, man. But it'd be funny if he was still doing the Elvis voice. He's just locked into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He cannot escape it.

Have you watched that yet? No, I haven't. Yeah, me neither. Okay, great. Maybe one day. So, yeah, I mean, the trailer looks great. The spice must flow. I was going to say some things about his life which I don't like.

But I don't need to. Yeah, you don't need to. You don't need to. People will fill in those blanks if they want. But, yeah, the trailer looks incredible. I'm going to get you, Paul Atreides. I'm going to get you. He's got his knife. I'm all shook up. That's right.. I'm going to get you, Paul Atreides. I'm going to get you. He's got his knife.

I'm all shook up. That's right. And I'm going to get you. Yeah. Yeah. So the last one did okay. It also released to streaming at the same time, but it's still got a pretty good following.

Cast is great. I mean, I thought it was terrific. The cast is great and continues to get even greater. Exactly. With the arrival of Christopher Walken great and continues to get even greater. Exactly. The arrival of Christopher Walken as the Emperor. That's right. Yeah, great. I'm here. Hello.

Did you see, I saw this clip, it's been around for a while, but it was on Twitter recently. It was Dave Grohl from the Foo Fighters. They were on SNL as the musical guest and Christopher Walken was the host. And Christopher Walken was the host. And Christopher Walken comes up to him and asks him, because he's got to introduce the musical act,

he's like, where do you put the emphasis on the band's name? And so Dave Grohl was like, oh, you do it on Fighters. And so you watch the clip, Christopher Walken comes out and he goes, ladies and gentlemen, for Fighters. It's so good. There doesn't even need to be any emphasis. There doesn't at all. You're absolutely right.

They're just two separate words. That's great. I mean, the scale of these movies looks ridiculous. And hopefully we'll be able to actually see this one in cinemas because we couldn't for the last one. But also the news was this week that Dune 3 is happening. That's right. It's going to be an adaptation of Dune Messiah. Oh.

Now some of this was adapted into the Children of Dune 2003 miniseries. Oh, Children of Dune. Children of Dune. That had James McAvoy. Oh, Jim. Milky Voodoo. Now that's, I assume, I don't know anything about Dune Messiah. Uh-huh. I think that might be the one where Paul don't know anything about Dune Messiah.

I think that might be the one where Paul Atreides turns into a big worm. Does that happen? I think so. He'll be like Zendaya, would you still love me if I was a worm? Because I'm going to be a big worm. Oh, really? Maybe. Or his son becomes a worm.

I'm not sure. Yuck. I would say yuck. No, thank you. But he's still got the hair? How much of it? Because he's got the same. Just one wet strand. No.

The worm has to have the whole hair. It has to grow to the same size. You're absolutely right. Yeah. Because these books get wild. So three is where it gets wild? Do you think? I guess.

I don't know. I only read the first Dune. Okay, great. Because obviously the first movie is the book split up into two, right? Yes, right. Yeah. But also Warner Brothers, they really need a win this year. I mean most of the companies.

Disney need a win. A bunch of them need a win. They need a win or they need a big enough loss for them to realize that the idea, the strategy going forward is perhaps not make every movie $300 million. Interesting. You know? Yeah.

Because then every movie doesn't tie, it doesn't tie the success of your movie with your business continuing to exist. Like it isn't that threat there anymore. Right, yeah. You know, if you just made some cheap movies. Sure, yeah. Speaking of, you didn't watch No Hard Feelings yet?

Which one's that? That's the Jennifer Lawrence. No, did you see it? The sex comedy. I haven't seen it yet. She's doing the rounds though. Doing the rounds. Doing the hot ones. Doing the Jennifer Lawrence. No, did you say it? I haven't seen it yet. She's doing the rounds though. Doing the rounds. Doing the hot ones.

Doing the hot ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you having to follow up questions about that movie? No, I was just curious. But I mean, that's just a lower budget movie such we don't see so much no more. I think it's doing okay for what it is, but comedies do not do well at the moment. Because they mostly, it's that same thing of like the Pixar animated thing where people were just like,

well, I'll watch this on streaming. Why go to the cinemas and all of that? Speaking of cinemas and why you would go to them, Tom Cruise, he's out and about and he's promoting movies in general. That's right. You've seen those pictures? Yeah, of course. I mean we had Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie buying a bunch of tickets

to the upcoming big blockbusters to Oppenheimer. But they only did it because Tom Cruise did it. Oh, you think so? I think you'll find Tom Cruise did it first. Tom Cruise did it first? Well, that's par for the course with Tom Cruise, isn't it? It's on his Twitter, if you can access it. This summer is full of amazing movies to see in theatres.

Congratulations, Harrison Ford, on 40 Years of India, one of the most iconic characters in history. I love a double feature, and it doesn't get more explosive or more pink than one with Oppenheimer and Barbie. I love The Flash also. He didn't say that. But he said that in the past. I think it's fair to tie it to this.

Yeah. I think he should have stood in front of the poster with the ticket. That's right. And I know he's already seen it, but, you know, he could have supported the movie The Flash. That's right. Which is a terrible movie. Anyway, it set off, as you said, he started the trend

and it set off a trend and so we got Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie in front of posters. Well, buying their tickets. That's a bit of fun. Do you think we're going to get Christopher Nolan and Cillian Murphy just looking morose in front of Barbie? Absolutely not. It's a shame. I would love that. If any of them were going to do it,

I guess it'd be Cillian Murphy. He seems like a normal guy. He does seem like a normal guy. I don't know whether that's true. Maybe he's like a weird Daniel Day-Lewis guy where he's too normal, where it's like you're too artisanal to be normal. Yeah, right. You know, you make your own nails for your house or whatever he's doing. I don't know what he's doing.

Yeah, he's up the bag. He's got some sort of furnace and he's making batches of nails. He makes six nails a day. He's building a house. Yeah. But, yeah, he just seems like you see him in interviews, he's just like, yeah, I don't know how I got here, I'll be honest. Yeah.

I did a couple of sad Irish movies and then all of a sudden I'm here. I don't know what happened. Yeah. There we go. But I also think this thing with Tom Cruise, like promoting other movies, this very transparently to me says that he's also getting his face out there for Mission Impossible. Oh, yeah.

Which I think is going to be big. I mean, off the back of the previous ones and Top Gun, he is one of the few people in himself which is like a known brand that people like at the moment. He's one of the last big movie stars, yeah. And not only like a movie star, but a movie star that has delivered lately. Yeah. You know?

And I know we've got like The Mummy or whatever, but if you look at his track record, it's been very good. So I think this just – this also serves as a way for him to promote himself, which I think is smart, you know, and he's normal. And we both think he's normal. We both think he's normal. Exactly right, yeah. Yeah, so there you go.

I feel like I saw a tweet this week. It was about – I'll never find it, but it was about how the movie industry, you know, is sort of in flux right now. Yeah. And this upcoming slate of movies is sort of really important because if this stuff does well, then it sort of proves to movie executives that all this stuff, everything's going well. Because like Barbie, we've got an existing IP that if that does well,

it's like, well, you can just make movies out of toys and stuff. You can keep doing that. Exactly. Apparently it's tracking well. Yeah. If Mission Impossible does well, it's like, well, then you can get a star in it and a star will do whatever. So, look, I'll never find it, but it seemed to make sense to me.

Okay. Fair enough. Also, I found that tweet that we mentioned earlier. This is from Mark Harris, who I believe is an author, and he said, It's hard to overstate the degree to which Hollywood is now looking at three movies, Mission Impossible 7, Barbie, and Oppenheimer, not only to succeed,

but to solve industry problems that no three films can solve. Mission Impossible 7 is for the movies are back, baby crowd. The execs have been waiting since Top Gun Maverick for the victory lap and who are holding fast to the belief that franchises and stars, no matter how old or ageing, are still a viable path forward. Barbie is for people who believe that mining existing IP is a creative path as long as the talent is younger

and the existing IP hasn't been overly exploited by movies already. Or underexploited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say. Yeah. And Oppenheimer is for the romantics, the people who want to believe that a studio handing a first-tier director a pile of money to take a big adult crazy swing at something

remains a chance worth taking. So there you go. Adult movie. Not an adult movie. Well, yeah. That would be number four, I assume. Yeah, that's right. Okay, that makes sense to me.

Yeah, I think so too. But I think like some of the lessons in that might are askew. Like that Tom Cruise thing that give an old guy money and whatever, whatever. That applies strictly to Tom Cruise. It does. Well, that's exactly. But see, that's the thing.

That's what I think is being said here. It's like they're clinging on to the idea that, yeah, you can just bring in a guy who everybody loves, but realistically you can't. It's Tom Cruise and no one else at this point. Who's left? Hulk Hogan. Yeah, Hulk Hogan.

Yeah, bring Suburban Commando 2. Let's make that happen. Santa with muscles too. Yeah, he's still got muscles. That's exactly right. Santa with slightly less muscles because he's much older. But there was also I think some sort of maybe some sort of earnings call this week with Mattel or Hasbro

or something like that where they're like, look at all the stuff we have and we can make a bloody. A Dungeons and Dragons movie. Yep, that worked. But also, what about the Viewmaster movie? Wow. You look through that, you see all sorts of... That's right.

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He's going to save movies. One movie at a time. That's right. Starting with this one, obviously. Yeah, absolutely. So on a budget of between $250 to $295 million. Allegedly, but probably more. I reckon it's more. I think it's probably more.

I know people have also justified this by saying a number of things, including that it was filmed during the pandemic and obviously there's a big uptick in what everything costs due to various things in place and whatnot. Well, guess what? I'm putting a moratorium on that. After this, no movies are allowed to say, well, we made it in the pandemic.

We made it in the pandemic. That's why it's expensive. That's it. Too bad. We're drawing a line in the sand. That's right. Yeah. A dune-like line in the sand.

Thank you. And it's also been said that they got like $50 million in tax cuts for filming in certain places or whatever but even if you take all that into account yeah this is bad so in the you're saying the box office is the expenditure and also in relation to the box office is yes now i'm gonna now a bit later in this i'm gonna go into why specifically i think this is underperforming but we'll do a bit of the spoiler for you first but i think it's interesting and i think we've probably briefly touched on this before. But the reason that these movies exist in the first place, the Indiana Jones franchise,

is because when Lucas came off the Star Wars, which was so expensive for the time, it made a lot of money, but well, you know, mind-bendingly expensive at the time. They went, let's do a cheap one. Let's do a thing that's just a funny little pulp adventure it was on the shape it was more expensive than the first star wars but yeah but the budget wasn't like it was big for the time but it wasn't like astronomical it wasn't a huge swing well this is astronomical huge swing and it but that also paid off four times that's true yeah even the bad one, the last crusade. Oh, mate.

So the US opening weekend for this was $60 million and $70 million international. And I can't stress enough, that is bad. I mean, the Flash was bad. This is probably worse than the Flash because the budget is probably more. But it's all bad. I mean, we don't really know what any of these are worth, but it's bad.

It seems bad, yeah. Anyways, what do you think the story was? Oh, right. Well, it's the 60s. Yeah. That's groovy, baby. For some. It's very groovy for some, less groovy for others.

Yeah. It's not groovy for Professor Henry Jones, Jr. Nope. Because he's all like, I'm sad. I'm sad. I'm alone and I live in a little apartment and I go to work and everybody's like, hey, daddy-o. Hey, hip cat.

That's right. And I'm like, shut up. I don't get it. I don't get it and I don't like it. I just want to kill. I just want to go out in the field and kill. It's my favorite thing to do. But guess what?

What? Stuff from his past is going to reemerge. Yeah. He's going to go on an adventure. One last adventure. One last time. That's right. thing to do. But no, but guess what? What? Stuff from his past is going to reemerge. Yeah. He's going to go on an adventure. One last adventure. One last time. That's right. Think about that.

And that stuff, it's Nazis. Yeah. Yeah. There's a few of them. Yeah. Yeah. They're all running about. It's actually a bad thing to do.

Run about? No, that's fine. Okay, right. It depends what you're doing. Running about in itself, the idea of that. What about I'm running around with an open pair of scissors? Where are you running? In the house.

That's fine. Outside. That's fine. I'm a Nazi. That's not fine. But I don't have the scissors. That's fine. But you can't be a Nazi.

Okay, all right. All right, anyway. But, yeah, a little adventure is on the way. Yeah. A big adventure. So how do you feel about this one? I liked it. I liked –

We've had some distance, by the way. Yeah. We watched this last – like more than a week ago, I think. And you've since been on holiday. And I've since stayed home and stewed on it. Yep. And look – I also stewed on it.

Look, we were – you know, some might say we were lured by the incredible, the lavish opening. You know, we might say we were lured by the incredible, the lavish opening. You know, we got premier tickets. There was a man there named like Whippy Whipperson or something and he did a bunch of whip tricks while we waited out in the cold. How long did he whip for? Probably about 30 minutes. And let me tell you, 20 seconds in, you see everything.

You got it. He's good at it. He's one of the best. Yeah, yeah. And did he just have one whip? No. Let me tell you, that absolutely did me no favours going into this. You sure? Because I was... I mean, there was a limited amount of whips

in this, but I think if there had been slightly more, I would have been like, I've had my fill of whipping! We did 30 minutes of whipping and now he's whipped twice in this movie! Yeah, there was not as many whips as you. But I think that, you know, we have to contend with that Indiana Jones in this, he's getting on in years and he's not as – they've obviously gone, we can't have him.

No. We can't have him whipping and leaping. One of the single kind of big whip that he does, it doesn't even look like it's him. Right. It looks like it's either a stunt double with his face on it or it's just completely CGI. And there's a few moments in that which, quite frankly,

I did not enjoy. Right. So the thing about this movie I liked, and I'm sure there were people who disagree with me. Oh, by the way, it's not great. Okay, right. I just want to clarify that. But I feel like it doesn't feel rushed in a way that like the rise of

Skywalker was. And I was listening to an interview with James Mangold on the Happy Sad Confused podcast. He said, at least it's better than the rise of Skywalker. I can die happy. And he's right. And basically this was kind of treading water. Spielberg didn't want to do it. Harrison Ford knows James Mangold, who directed like Logan and 310 to Human, which is incredible, by the way,

if you haven't seen it, Ford versus Ferrari. And so Harrison Ford and Lucasfilm brought him in and they said, listen, we kind of need to be ready to get this going in 25 days. Here's the script. And James Mangold looked at it and went, I mean, this has like the elements of an Indiana Jones movie. Right. But this isn't about anything.

And I need a year to fix this. And they went, no. What about $10 million to you personally? And he went, I'll see you in 24 days. I'll see you in 24 hours. But he said no. Right. So he went away and then they came back and said,

we thought about it or I guess they asked a bunch of people and they went, I guess we'll do this properly. No, I think the argument could be made. We don't want to, to be clear. Yeah. We would never do it properly if we didn't have to. I think the argument could be made that like this is maybe on par with some of like, you might feel that it's on par

with like the worst kind of Disney Lucasfilm stuff. Okay. But I think what gets this over the line for me is the character beats of this really resonated. That's right. This movie goes some places I did not expect. First of all, full frontal Harrison Ford nudity. Oh, yeah.

But they do the de-aging on it, so it's fine. I don't think they do. Oh, no. Well, then he's doing great, I reckon. Yeah. No, he looks amazing. But I think they really, they lean into his age in terms of like, it's a bit kind of muddled in terms of the things he is and is not capable of.

There are moments where he pauses and he's like, my shoulders hurt or whatever. And there's other moments where he would just jump from vehicle to vehicle. Yeah. Or he'll get shot. Or he'll get shot. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, damn kids.

Yeah. This isn't groovy at all. So there's moments like that, which, which, but I think the weakest element of this for me is the action is kind of you know i i think my is it is it partly the way that it's shot it's all these medium shots i think so but i feel like there was some there was some genuine i i feel like there was some genuine like a real sense of motion and impact and i felt like you know there's a little sort of they're not tuk-tuks, there was a little like.

Yeah, that bit was all right. Like a little motor buggy chase and I thought that the initial train chase was also very good. Yeah, so the first 25 minutes of this movie has a de-aged Indiana Jones. That's right. And it's like in his heyday. It's a de-aged Harrison Ford. It's an age that he was.

That's true. Indiana Jones. So he would have been, the character would have been like 46-ish years old or whatever. So he looks pretty much like he does in The Last Crusade. Even though it's like six years after or five years after or whatever. And some of it looks amazing. Some of the times when he's not moving and it's just his face still. He looks incredible.

And other times it looks like a cartoon man just fucking mugging about. Right. And I had to like kind of tell my brain just don't – this is upsetting you and you need to just – this is happening and you need to just kind of roll with it. But once again, you're an empath, James. I am an empath. Firmly established.

I'm not as affected by this sort of thing it seems as you are, I think. Although I think I have been in the past, so I think it depends project to project. With the Indiana Jones stuff, I didn't mind. It depends shot to shot. There's also a moment later in this where he's de-aged to like Crystal Skull era, and that looks way better to me. And I think it's also because he looks closer to that in real life,

so that's an easier step than doing 30-odd years, taking 30-odd years off him. And I think also the fact that it's a very difficult thing to do because it's a mix of body doubles. I think there's deep fakes. I think there's moments where he just has a CGI face and head. And also you've got a variety of light. Do you think they made him do the dots?

Yeah. I don't think it was even him a lot of the time. I think it was a start even him a lot of the time. I think it was a stunt double for a lot of it. But there's also a variety of like lighting and movement in it, which you often don't get with deep fakes. Often you're in a very controlled environment. Like the last time we saw Young Luke Skywalker. This was on like Corridor Crew.

It's all very carefully lit and shadowed to be even and flat so you can control that. There was a lot of rubber masking as well, I think. Yeah, definitely. Did you see that? It came up on Twitter recently. Yeah, with like the stunt guys just wearing like an old Indiana Jones head or whatever.

Yeah, absolutely. So I think this is a very difficult thing to pull off convincingly. And I think at the end I just kind of had to go with it. But I think as a classic Indiana Jones. You could have left. I could have. No, I mean I think as a classic Indiana Jones. You could have left. I could have. No, I mean, I think as a classic, like, little Indiana Jones throwback adventure,

like it's got fun little moments and he's hiding and punching and little jokes and whatever. And I think it's all right. I'm okay with it. I didn't love it. Were you at least, were you, did you feel a dissonance? And, again, I didn't really, but you might have the dissonance between a young Indiana Jones face and old Harrison Ford voice.

Sometimes, yeah. And I also don't know like some of this was probably voice doubles or that AI thing. Like I thought some of the line delivery like felt weird. He didn't talk that much, which was – but no, did you feel that? No, I didn't. And I also feel like – I don't know how they you feel that? No, I didn't. And I also feel like. I don't know how they did it exactly.

No, exactly, yeah. And we'll never know because Disney aren't doing many behind-the-scenes things. No, they refuse. Just Disney magic, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'd rather old Harrison Ford voice than getting a new guy in, I think.

Okay, and like an impression. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, fair enough. And what about, or AI, like the AI Luke Skywalker? No. He's like, hello, Grogu, do a flip with me. That's all right. Oh, fair enough. And what about AI, like the AI Luke Skywalker? No. He's like, hello, Grogu, do a flip with me. That's right.

Oh, good flip. Now let's do flips across the galaxy. Hand in hand. Everything's very normal. Yeah. A series of a bunch of us is going to be very good and normal. We're all going to team up. It's going to be very good and normal.

Absolutely. Hey, look, it's my sister. She's here too. Yes, it's me, Princess Leia. I'm doing flips. It's good and normal. Absolutely. Hey, look, it's my sister. She's here too. Yes, it's me, Princess Leia. I'm doing flips. It's good and normal. I'm alive. As I would be in this era.

It's not ghoulish. It's normal. It's ghoulish and everybody approves. I'm young Han Solo. So I also think there's a moment and there's a clip of this online. I liked kind of the evolution of Indiana Jones because at the start he's old. And I know people hate the, some people hate the, like the old Luke Skywalker, last Jedi thing.

And it's a similar kind of. Yeah, this is a, this is a, this is an Indiana Jones and he's an old man full of regret. But I, I, I like that because like he's 80. I mean, he's supposed to be like 70. That's canonically his age. But I don't want to see a guy – I mean I think the complaints would be the same, like coming in and just doing all the things he used to do except he's 80. Yeah. Because I think also people –

The Irishman. Yes, exactly. I think people would also not like that for the same reasons why they might not like this. I like – like this is his last adventure. It's the end of his life. There's a lot of. Who are you talking about there? This is me.

Okay. No, this is Harrison Ford and Indiana Jones. Yeah, right, right. And I think that that's interesting. Like this guy and, you know, we'll get into the spoilers about why he is the way he is and where he is. Space, outer space. Outer space, yeah. That is interesting to me.

I know that's not interesting to everybody. Some people hate that. They just want to see the guy that they used to know come in and go and someone pulls a knife and he shoots them or whatever. Right, exactly. And that happens 100 times in this movie and I got sick of it. I'm glad they just did a montage of him shooting people throughout the ages.

World War II, bang. 1950s, bang. 1950s, bang. JFK, bang. Oh, no. That's right. That's right. He admitted it. People would, you know, and I'm sure some people are dismayed because in the last one Indy kind of, you know,

whatever you think about that movie, he got a happy ending. He got what he deserved. He got what he deserved. A kid and he's married now. Yeah. And it's sort of, you know, but I don't know. But again, he didn't give up the hat, if you recall, in that last movie.

So there were more adventures to come, I guess. And I think perhaps some people were expecting Indian mutt adventures or nobody was expecting that. I don't want that. We'll talk about it in spoilers. But, yeah, to move it on to, again, the thing that people didn't like about Luke Skywalker, that he was old and disillusioned and he can't do everything he used to be able to do.

He didn't even do a flip. Didn't even do any flips, right? Yeah. People are going to have an issue with that. But, yeah, I don't know what anyone – like there's only so many times you can give him one more adventure. Yes. And you're right. You wouldn't be able to go, yeah, no, he's only so many times you can give him one more adventure. Yes. And you're right.

You wouldn't be able to go, yeah, no, he's going to do exactly what he always did and just nonstop CGI leaping and shooting. Yep. You just can't do it. Exactly. Yeah. But, look, I realize that there will probably be people who hear this and being like, well, like all of these, like I maybe sound conflicted

about this movie. And I'm not. I'm just trying to clearly explain why I think this is better than Crystal Skull, but not as good as the original trilogy. But the character moments that I really liked. I mean, I also liked how at the start when like he gets framed for a thing at the start and some people come for him. Killing JFK.

Which he did. Yeah, which he actually did, yeah. And there's a clip of this. I did kill him, but it's not the point. I got away scot-free and now you're blaming me. I'm mad because you caught me. Yeah. Where they corner him in like a little library kind of archive room

and it's like when an old man wakes up from a nap and he's confused. He's like, who are you? What's happening? And then some shelves fall over. He pushes the shelves. He pushes the shelves, yeah. And also there's a terrible face replacement on the body double. I don't know if you noticed that.

You can see it online. It clicks there. Where he turns around and it just looks like it's horrible. It just melts from one side to the other. Yeah, pretty much, yeah. But I also think then you kind of see him regain his confidence as it goes. The old murder reflexes kick in. The old murder reflexes kick in and it kind of, you know,

and then he's on the street and then he's like, okay, I'm going to do some of the stuff that I do. And he gets on a horse and there's a chase or whatever. I also think the problem with the action sequences in this, that they're mostly chases. They are, it's true, yeah. It's mostly running about, which is dangerous. Yeah, it is dangerous. Especially if you've got scissors or you're a Nazi.

Yeah. So there's moments where, like, you know, he's on the horse through the subway and whatever, but I guess my problem with the action sequence is in this. I couldn't point to one and go, that's as good as the tank chase. Yeah, there isn't any – I mean, maybe there will be in a rewatch, but there was no – there's no moment where you go, oh, my God, remember the boulder? Or, you know, remember where he shoots through four Nazis at once or whatever?

Yeah, like the mine cart, the bridge. There's not like a – The fact that you can just say the mine cart or the bridge, people immediately know what you're talking about or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Or the boat chase in Venice. Yeah, yeah. You know, the opening of the last crusade.

Yeah. Like all of that. There's nothing like that you're right yeah and if i if we can change topics slightly of course considering that he is an older man and he doesn't have you know the reflexes he doesn't have the the leaping and the and the jumping about that he used to of course champs he needs he needs his own off-sider doesn't he he's a new character to jump in and be loved by all the people and of course we in we get phoebe waller bridge that's right about it yeah i liked it yeah i really like phoebe waller i think to jump in and be loved by all the people. And, of course, we get Phoebe Waller-Bridge.

How do you feel about it? Yeah, I liked it. Yeah, I really liked Phoebe Waller-Bridge. I think also people are being like- Do you think she was ever on set with Harrison Ford? She was like, I'm your spaceship. I'm your spaceship, Harrison Ford. I'm in your spaceship.

I didn't like- You'd be like, what are you talking about? I didn't like the robot from Solo that she played. Right. But I've seen the criticism of like, well, she's not very nice. Yeah, she fucking sucks. But so does Indiana Jones mostly. Yeah, exactly.

A big part of the character is that like, yeah, she's mean and also Indiana Jones was supposed to look after her because something happened to her father and whatever and her father like went insane over this thing that happened and whatever. And, you know, she's like, she's not completely like a young version of him, but there is an obvious parallel between the things that he used to value, fortune and glory, et cetera.

And she's learned that. Yeah. She's not learned any of the other lessons he's had because she hasn't been around. And maybe she learns a lesson maybe. Maybe she learns a lesson. Yeah. Maybe she learns a lesson. You've got to kill JFK.

You've got to. But, you know, and the lesson that obviously that Indy learned at the end of Last Crusade, stop trying to impress your dad, let it go. Let some stuff go. They both learned that. Yeah, he doesn't care. Yeah, he'll never care. He named you after a dog or whatever.

Oh, you slept with a hot Nazi lady? Well, he did as well. So you cannot impress him. There's no woman you can sleep with that he hasn't slept with already. I just also think that this idea that, like, she is the main character of this, and I've seen that again and again, I just don't think it's true. No.

I think she's as much as a main character as, like, Short Round or Marion or any of the, like, secondary characters. Henry Jones Senior. Henry Jones Senior. And I know there's moments people also complain. We're like, well, she solved a thing that he could have solved or whatever. It's like, who gives a shit? So they're giving characters things to do in conversation.

Like, who cares? It's not like he's, I'm so old and so I don't understand it. She just got in first. He would have got there. Exactly. Yeah. Cause like there's moments where they try to figure out like what like ancient language this thing is going to be that they decipher and they have an argument about what it's

going to be. And it ends up being the thing that she said. But also like it's not a big deal because it was a flip of a coin. Yeah. And he can read them both anyway. So it's not really like a victory. It's just like, okay, it's this thing. Yeah.

Let's just, let's kill the next person. It's time for killing. Yeah. No, I liked it. Yes. And I think also what I didn't think was a great inclusion because he wasn't very, they didn't give him much to do with Sala returns.

And there's a moment. Jonathan Rhys-Davies. Yeah, who I think is great. Or butt. I sent a butt coming. No, no, I just think for the character, there's a moment where he's like Indiana Jones has to escape and he's going to go on a plane.

And people are also like, how can he escape because he's framed for whatever? There's no, nobody knows who anybody is. He could just, he could get on a plane. Anybody could go on a plane. And people are also like, how can he escape because he's framed for whatever? Nobody knows who anybody is. Anybody could get on a plane. Did you know back in this era you could get on a plane and buy your ticket on the way? Did you know that? I'd believe it.

It's crazy. Who are you? I'm a murderer. Why are you already sitting down? We can't go back, so we're going to have to trust you on this. Your ticket's $5. It's fine. $5?

Outrageous. I'll kill you all. I'll kill you like I killed JFK, which I did just now before I got on the plane. Sala drops him at the airport and he's like, I want to go on an adventure. I miss the sand and the sea. And Indiana Jones is like, listen, this isn't an adventure.

It is. And Sala's like, oh, give them hell or whatever. And it's like, all right, settled or whatever yeah you know and it's like all right settled out yeah you know yeah there's and it's i just think it's it's it's probably the most fan servicey thing that i felt here in terms of like appearances or a thing that happened yeah he doesn't contribute to the adventure really he doesn't he doesn't punch a guy through a newspaper no and i like that also the idea that he is now immigrated to America.

He's got a big family. Indiana Jones made that happen or whatever. I think that's all terrific. I liked, because we had in Crystal Skull, we had the agents, the CIA, whoever they are, they're talking to India and they mention his war record. I liked that we saw some stuff

that took place during World War II. Totally. I thought it was super cool. And this also speaks to what I said when we covered them in Caravan of Garbage. I really wish we got that Indiana Jones movie set in the 90s. Not set in the 90s. Well, they could do that if you live long enough.

Yeah. Made in the 90s, you know, where you could have seen like something he did in World War II, which I guess, you know, we ended up getting here. But there's also a sidekick who's, I don't mind, but it's just like what if short round again? But it's not Indy's sidekick. It's Phoebe Waller-Bridge's sidekick.

Nothing wrong with the kid himself, but I just think there wasn't that much to distinguish him from a short round kind of character. I know they were looking for that. They were looking for what if short round, but from somewhere else or whatever. Sure. Yeah.

And I think similarly for like Antonio Banderas turns up in this and again, it's just kind of, he's there and he's gone. Yeah. And it's, I don't think it adds that much to it, to be honest. Okay. But would you rather have Antonio Banderas or just a rando? Yeah, whatever. Okay.

I think it's also, you know, when you see, when you watch those original movies, when Sala shows up, you're not like, that's a guy from Puss in Boots, whatever. Okay, great. I think it's also, you know, when you watch those original movies, when Sala shows up, you're not like, that's a guy from Puss in Boots or whatever. That's Zorro. It's just a guy. It's a guy he's meeting. That's true. And I love Antonio Banderas,

and I didn't even mind that sequence, underwater sequence they had together. That felt a bit like Fate of Atlantis. Oh, yeah. And I guess just because of the water. Sure. It felt a bit like taking a bath because of the water. Because of the Oh, yeah. And I guess just because of the water. Sure. It felt a bit like taking a bath because of the water. Because of the water, yeah. It felt like a bit like drinking a glass of water

and you look too close into the glass of water and you're like, this glass of water is my whole universe and I'm on mushrooms. Anyway. Because of the water. Yeah. What did you think of the villain? Yeah, good. I mean, it's Mads Mikkelsen.

I feel you can't go wrong with Mads Mikkelsen yeah I feel you can't go wrong with Mads Mikkelsen no whether he's a whether he's a villainous sorcerer or he's a villainous Nazi or he's a teacher and he drinks too much

and he's like goes to his friends he's like hey we should drink a lot Blood Eye Blood Eye yeah from Casino Royale yeah that's right

yeah yeah he's done it all yeah he was also in Star Wars oh yeah not technically a villain but he did build the Death Star. But he put that hole in it. That's true.

He also put the hole in it. So the universe's greatest hero. Yeah. That's cool. In a way. Yeah, love Mads Mikkelsen. Great. I think also, like, it doesn't always need to be the Nazis.

Hannibal. Hannibal, of course. Hannibal, yes. Like, it doesn't always need to be the Nazis in Indiana Jones. I think, you know, the last crusade was very much like, oh, what was the villain that people loved? You know, we'll bring back the Nazis again. Yeah.

But I think also setting it in this era because there were a bunch of Nazis that went into the NASA program because he's based on one of- Von Braun? Von Braun, yeah, who was a known Nazi who had a massive hand in the space race. Yes, right. I actually thought that would – spoilers for what's not in this movie. I thought that would have more relevance to this movie.

You wanted Indiana Jones on the moon? Maybe. Maybe. Look how far I can whip. I can whip even further. Or not as far. Yeah. I can whip even further. Or not as far. Yeah. I'm whipping the moon.

All right. Indy, you're whipping it too far. You're going to whip it into the earth. Shut up. The Nazis have built a giant whip on the moon to whip it into the earth. They've used his own word. They were inspired by him. Yeah.

Their greatest weapon. No, I think also like the remnants of history, and you even see that now, you know. These are men who very recently were Nazis and still are. Correct, yes. And are just running around in the universe. And there's a conversation that he has with a waiter where he's like, are you enjoying your victory or whatever?

Oh, yeah, yeah. And he's just like, you're a prick. Stop being a prick. But he can't stop being a prick, Mason, because he's a Nazi. That's right. It's one of their defining characteristics. He also got hit in the face by a sign on a speeding train at the start of the movie. Oh, yeah, that's true, yes.

And then he was fine. But, you know, here's something I liked about this movie. Go on. I think all the talk of, like, history and events past and the talking and the problem solving and there's also a sequence at the end when they go into a cave and that feels very classic indiana jones and i think the set is like beautifully constructed it felt more like raiders than kingdom of the crystal skull when they go to the aztec thing and it's just kind of like yeah it's a big pile of CGI nothing. Yeah, where this is

I enjoyed that stuff quite a bit. Like the actual physical device that they're after. Yes. I really enjoyed like. Which we'll get into in spoilers I imagine. Spoilers, yeah. I liked all of that. Yeah, plenty of, I'm sure they were like, look, we've got to put some creepy crawlers in this. We've got to cover everybody in creepy crawlers at a certain

point. And sort of do snakes, but not really. Snakes Mason, you know, why did it have to be snakes it wasn't but he didn't like it still no spoilers mason um also i guess this is probably john williams's final score that's true at 91 years old apparently like it was maybe he'll write a theme or maybe do some key moments in it kind of like he did with solo Like I think he wrote Han Solo's theme in that, but he didn't do the entire thing. But he just kept writing and he ended up doing the whole thing. I think the score in this is as good as any of the ones that he's done,

which is to say bad. Oh, no. No, he's obviously one of the best he's ever been. I mean, the fact that he can still do this is just mind-blowing to me. But now he's retired, he's going to go back to his first love, which is writing jingles for Frozen Peas. That's right. Finally.

Yeah. His true calling. That's right. That's where the money is. So before we talk spoilers and why this bombed, or maybe I'll save that to the very end. Why it's currently bombing. It might not bomb later.

You're right. It might not bomb later. Maybe after this review where we say it's pretty good and we enjoy it, maybe we'll get a second wind. I think of all the of all the two weeks before it goes to streaming yes i think of all the underperforming blockbusters that we've experienced this year the flash ant-man 3 transformers the little mermaid this one i liked the most nice but i also think it's because i am also an old guy. That's probably it. It's probably old guy syndrome. Yeah. Finally you get to see someone like you on screen, an old guy.

I'm an old guy too. Second to Transformers Rise of the Beast behind it because, you know, who doesn't like a robot gorilla punching a whatever? That's true. That's true. Who doesn't love that robot gorilla punching a whatever? That's true. Who doesn't love that? Oh, my God, that's me, Ape Link. It's me on screen.

Ape Link, that's right. I'm just an Ape Link. Finally, some representation. I'm going to say best movie ever. I'm going to say best movie ever also. Yeah. And I reckon I'm going to enjoy it more on a second viewing. Yeah.

If I get to. I think it's too long also. I haven't mentioned that, but it's too long. It's like 20 minutes too long. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I think you just cut out one of the chases. Yeah.

Well, yeah, look, I think we mentioned this when we came out of it originally. It's one of those movies, you know, I guess if you want to, you can boil any of these movies down to like a series of fetch quests. Yeah. And there's obviously more to it than that, but this is one of those movies where it's like we've got to get the things and then it's like what if we add it in, but we've got to get – The thing to get the thing.

We've got to go to a clue to get the thing. And that's – if you cut one of those out, you really streamline the, you know. The thing. You streamline the thing. That they're doing. You streamline the thing they're doing. Spoilers? Yeah, it's time for spoilers.

The thing they're doing is a big time travel. They're doing a big time travel. I never thought they'd do a big time travel in my life. I never thought they'd do it. I love the way they did this genuinely. Yeah. I think the fact that it's the device that they're looking for is not a time machine. Yes.

It's basically a compass to a rift in time. That is pre-existing, I guess. Yeah. Uh-huh. I think maybe they could have announced earlier like what the plan of the Nazi was. Right. Because it's only like just before they do the time travel

that he's like, I'm going to do a time travel right now. See, I thought that was the perfect time to do it. Okay. Because the assumption obviously was that he was going to, the Nazi was going to go back. I mean, I guess also I suspected he was going to do a time travel. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, go on.

We think he's going to go back to the 1930s probably or sometime around then. Yeah. And it's also like, does it make you young? Right, right. What is it? I thought if anything, he was going to go back in time and warn Hitler or kill Winston Churchill.

Kill JFK again. Help Harrison Ford kill JFK. Bang, bang. Oh, there was a second shooter. It was a Nazi. Harrison Ford killed JFK. Bang, bang. Oh, there was a second shooter.

It was a Nazi. Or, you know, help Hitler or kill Winston Churchill or kill somebody and then help Hitler take over. But then the reveal, of course, is he's going to kill Hitler because he thought Hitler wasn't Hitler-y enough. No. Not enough of a Nazi, this Hitler bloke. Let's get rid of him and then I'll do it. Yeah.

Well, I think he liked the ideas of Hitler, but he thought his strategy was like Hitler defeated himself, but he, this guy had the strategy. Like, and I guess it's all well and good in hindsight to be like, well, I would have done world war two like this. That's right. Wouldn't I? Yeah. Nice try Hitler. Yeah. But I, I like the idea. Keep your head in the game Hitler. Like this guy is this like brilliant mathematician that has got people on the moon and he's got this plan where he's figured it out like to the second where I know exactly how to get back in time and I'm going to stop and I'm going to reset history. But he's not aware that the events which transpire, they're in a closed loop. Yes. It has always happened.

loop yes it has always happened and he and i know indiana jones says like you didn't take into account continental drift but i don't i feel like that's not even a factor here doesn't say that way no no because you're always going to go back 2 000 years it's always going to happen this way like that device was specifically built to get them back to archimedes yes at a very specific i assumed that what would what was going to happen and and I guess I didn't factor in in this movie so long, that they were going to fly up, there was going to be a rift or a cloud with lightning in it, and they were going to go through the cloud, and then they were going to look around and be like,

what's happening around here? And then the Nazis would have been chewed up by propeller blades because they have a fist fight on the top of the plane or whatever. And then they would have flown back out of it. And they're like, I think I saw a Roman ship or whatever. And they would have been like, no, that's crazy though kind of thing. I didn't think it would be like a full 15-minute sequence in the bar. Like a Bill and Ted's-esque, like you meet an ancient character

in a toga or whatever. That's exactly right, yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. I also was really worried that we were going to go back and old Indiana Jones was going to run around with young Indiana Jones. I really thought for a second that that was going to happen and I was like, please don't do that.

Yeah. And I just thought, I know, I really like the way it unfolded. And I also think it's hilarious that there was that rumor that what was actually going to happen was Indiana Jones was going to die. And then Phoebe Waller-Bridge was going to go through all his movies. Oh, wow. Like to remember that. And people are saying that this, what they've done here is a reshoot.

Oh, maybe. Let me tell you. Yeah. It's impossible. Because this was so expensive? Well, it's so expensive. And also there is on-set footage, like paparazzi footage of this from like two years ago.

And look, there was reshoots on this as there is literally every movie. Right. But this is the ending, like a variation on this. You know what? I think I wouldn't say I didn't like this sequence. I thought it was, you know, really interesting. And I guess if it's anything, it's the culmination of, you know, they practically say it in the movie, it's the culmination of, like,

he spent his entire life tracking down this sort of stuff and wondering what the world was like back in the day and to finally see it, even for a moment, well, that is, you know, that's him finally achieving a goal that no one ever could, you know, kind of thing. But I think, so that's good in a way. But you know what I think probably took something away from it is when we see Archimedes and his apprentice and they're in a building and they're having a

conversation, I didn't want to see their side of it. Okay, yeah. I would have just preferred – like if you kept everything else the same, you have the – the plane comes have the they have the the plane comes through the portal and it gets attacked by the the greek fire and the harpoons and what have you and then it crashes and then indy and and phoebe waller bridges character's name i will never remember yeah are on the beach elena and yes i think elena yeah probably and then maybe somebody who might be archimedes shows up and you just see him go like hmm and you go oh it's

archimedes and what have you, and then they leave and then you go. On a second plane. On a second plane with that guy, that guy who was there. He also went back in time. I think that could have been. Oh, what if there's subsequent adventures of that guy who fell asleep on his plane?

Maybe, yeah. But then you go away and then be like, what a, and that was Archimedes, I think, you know, kind of thing. But the fact that we saw – There's no ambiguity to this. Yeah, like we saw his whole inner life. Yep. I think – yeah, I don't disagree with that.

Yeah. What I did like about it was the idea of Indiana Jones is that he is observing history from the modern day or the eras that it's set in. No, the modern day. The modern day, you're right. They're all set in the 90s. Set in the 90s, which is – yes, the modern day or the eras that it's set in. No, the modern day. The modern day, you're right. They're all set in the 90s. Set in the 90s, which is, yes, the modern day where, I mean, he's also, he's always been a guy that he's been,

like he's a part of history and he's been there for significant events, including the time that he saw God jump out of a box. That's right. And aliens. And he shot JFK that time. He shot JFK and whatever. And there's a moment in the first one where Baloch is talking to him about, like, this moment that we're here, like, this is fleeting.

But, you know, being able to observe history and being a part of history itself when he's talking about the Ark, like, imagine that, like, me and you, how significant is that? And this movie is, like, a culmination of that. There's even a conversation in that about if you put a watch in the desert and that it's worth something in a few thousand years and then the Nazi's watch is left, you know, back in time. So I think there's some really interesting parallels to just the life of Indiana Jones like in this moment.

Like this is all of the things that he loves and he gets to meet a hero, you know. How did the time portal go back to Archimedes' time, though? I think it was just sheer coincidence. Well, they said there were specific rifts in time that appear. Right. It doesn't make sense. Let me just say that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just that he was building a device that could locate these rifts and there was just one there? Yep. How convenient. I think so. Very convenient. I mean, it's also possible that he puzzled it out

where it was probably going to be about then or whatever. Ah, right, right, right. But he wasn't complete, I assume. But again, it's like there are other riffs, but this particular one does this. That's right. So there was, I just thought it was hilarious that Mads Mikkelsen's character was never going anywhere else.

Right. He was always going to end up here and just end up, you know, dead on the ground, you know. I mean, he didn't catch fire or anything, which would have been very fitting for, you know, villains like this. When did the Bermuda Triangle get, like when did that hit? I know, like the 60s maybe. Yeah, maybe that's the, because, you know,

the last one was kind of aliens and that was a big little green men and that was a big 50s thing. Yeah. So maybe like the popularity of the Bermuda Triangle sort of hit its peak in the 60s. It feels like it would, you know. And I think also like people, they maybe don't love the bit where Indiana Jones is like, I'm going to stay in the past.

Yeah. Like there is nothing for me anywhere else. And the reason being that he's getting divorced and also that his son died in Vietnam, which we will come back to. And the way that that is resolved is he's very intent on staying. And I genuinely thought for a moment that, like, well, he might stay. Yeah, yeah. And then I also thought Harrison Ford in a toga, you know, I don't know.

I don't know. No, I think he'd wear his existing trousers until they became very ratty and smelly. Yeah, when he died of that. Give me back my trousers. And then try and fix them. Be like, give me back my trousers. Yeah, but I.

I mean, he invents trousers. Yeah. And then she ends up, like, knocking him out and taking him back. Uh-huh. And there's a few reasons why. How could Phoebe Wallenbridge knock out a very old man? How could she do it? How could she knock out a very old man who's been beaten up a lot?

He was also, like, he was dying. Yeah. Like, he was literally dying, and she knew that. And also, beaten up a lot? He was also like, he was dying. Yeah. Like he was literally dying and she knew that. And also it's a closed loop. Like he can't live there. Like what has transpired? It has happened already. She was always going to punch him.

And look, sure. I mean, it would have been also, I would have been fine if like she convinced him or he decided on his own, but it doesn't matter to me the fact that he was, that's not so much important as what the realization that he has afterwards. But I just, I loved that moment. There's a couple of moments that I thought he, his performance was incredible. And this is the stuff I couldn't talk about in non-spoilers. One where he's talking about what happened to his son. Mutt Williams. listed in the Vietnam War, you know, to spite his dad. And I think there is a lot of, even I don't like that character that much and I don't like Shia LaBeouf, I'm glad they didn't put him in it. I think that's the best use of this character for me personally. But there is a lot of Indiana Jones in him where he wants adventure and he's spiteful and he'll go and fight this war.

And he's sort of in a world where there's not much else to discover. No, well, that's true. And it's also interesting because if you look at the, like Indiana Jones fought two wars, I mean, in addition to all the killing he did in between and after, whereas the war that Shia LaBeouf's character did, like the Vietnam War, that's a very, like, ideologically different circumstance.

Was Indy in World War I and World War II? Yeah. Was he? Yeah, in both. Yeah. He didn't do the trilogy. Oh, yeah. Because he hasn't lived to World War III.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Presumably. Unless he finds the Grail again. But I think, so there's a moment where he's reflecting on Mutt and his failings. And I thought that was like really tragic. I thought that was great as well, yeah. And he's just really excellent. And then at the moment, at the end where he's, you know, he's back in time and he's just

like, fuck whatever, this will do. Like, I'm just Like I'm done. I've had enough. Like this was the last kind of thing in me. Yeah. Lucky it was a time travel adventure. Lucky I got to do the most amazing thing that anyone's ever done. Pretty amazing.

Yeah, I just, he really solved it. Harrison Ford is really good in this movie. When he's motivated to be a good actor, he will absolutely be a good actor. And I've also seen that like, well, how did he get cleared of the murder? Because they think he did a murder. And it's because also the CIA know that the Nazis were in the CIA. Yeah. And then also the Nazis killed a bunch of CIA people.

So I think they would have just, it would have been known that he did not kill his colleagues. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I assume. Who else? I mean, you know, I like seeing Boyd Holbrook and stuff. He didn't get a ton to do in this, I didn't think. I liked how Phoebe Waller-Bridge's sidekick killed that big man. Yeah, I liked that too.

He just handcuffed him underwater and left him to drown. That's a bit of fun. I thought he was going to return, but he didn't. He just drowned. He drowned. He drowned. I liked that too because in an earlier movie, or I think even in a worse movie, Harrison Ford fist fights

that guy for 10 minutes. That's right. And this Indiana Jones, he would die. He would die. Straight away. It's a young man's game fighting a big man. That's right. Drown him underwater.

That's right. And then the whole thing ends just in a little apartment. Yeah. And I thought it was, I mean, the best Indiana Jones ending. Oh, but what Easter eggs are in that apartment? Why, so many. So many pictures of people we know. That's right.

It's a picture of Baloch and he's like, I knew you'd time travel. That's right. He'd written on the back. That's right. I'm proud of you, Indiana Jones. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

The guy, what's the name of the guy that betrayed him in Last Crusade? Him and the Nazi lady just being like, you can't. Donovan. Yeah, Donovan. There we go. Good on you, Indiana Jones. That's good stuff, man. Good on you.

Really good stuff. The guy with the fez? Yeah, the guy with the fez. Remember that time on the river? Indiana Jones. Mac from Crystal Skull or whatever. Oh, yeah, that's right. Remember the time in the warehouse? Indiana Jones. Mac from Crystal Sky or whatever. Oh, yeah, that's right. Remember the time in the warehouse?

Indiana Jones. I knew you'd talk travel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew it. Like the best ending is the time he fought Dracula in Young Indiana Jones. But if I had to pick the second best ending, it's obviously the end of The Last Crusade. And that movie is like I feel like the end of adventuring.

And this movie is felt like that's the best ending. Let me just clarify that. Yeah. But this movie is like the end of like a life, like well-lived and a deserved kind of peace. Yeah, except for those last few years when he was just sad. Yeah, that was sad, obviously. And I thought it was really interesting because also

Marion was spoiled for us. Yeah, when we went to see – look, again, the endless treasures and bribery we get when we go to these premieres because the head of Disney Australia or whoever it was, I don't know. I think it was head of Disney or something. She showed up. She did a little speech and she went. And it was a little – on the screen there was like a static poster,

like the classic one, and it's got, you know, Harrison Ford and all the stars. And she's like, oh, you know, welcome to this screening and you're going to see all the adventures of Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge and Antonia Banderas and Karen Allen. And we're like, sorry, what? She's not on the poster. What do you mean?

She's not been in any of the trailers. And then when she's not in the movie at the start, you're like, well, I wonder who's going to show up at the end of the movie. Yeah, so thanks for that, Disney. Anyway, she was great for what she was, not the lady. I mean, the lady from Disney was great. She was great. It's true.

But Karen Allen was great. And what I thought was interesting about that, where he talks about earlier how Karen's like karen allen was so like grief stricken that he couldn't be resolved and he had to leave or whatever but the way that she speaks to him is like like are you back and i think what it was that like he was like yeah where the person who was like lost was he was. Yeah. It was him.

And I think him going on this adventure and him, you know, and all of these things and, you know, doing good and all the things, murdering and the things that he's good at, like that's what kind of brought her back because she's seen that he kind of healed through this in a way. Yeah, yeah. To an extent. If only all wayward husbands could go on a time travel adventure

and meet Archimedes and then learn that actually the more valuable things might have actually been in the past and then Phoebe Waller-Bridge punches you in the head and then you get on a plane with the other guy's plane who fell asleep on the plane and he went back in time as well and they get back on his plane and they go back through the time rift and then you go back to your apartment in New York and then your wife's there and you're like, oh, I get it now.

If only that could happen to whoever he is. I'm going to put the hat on again. Yeah, I'll put the hat back on. Yeah, but because, you know, you see earlier on, like, he's drinking and he's just living history. And that's all he's doing. Like, he's retiring and he's like, I hate this because I'm escaping through teaching and history and all of that.

But the kids don't want to hear about history anymore. They want to hear about Archimedes. They want to hear about the Beatles. They want to hear about Archimedes. They want to hear about the Beatles. They want to hear about the Beatles. And how the Beatles are going to the moon or whatever. That's right. Yeah. I just thought it was.

They want to hear about Mott the Hoople. Mott. It was a band that David Bowie was in. Okay, great. That's all I have. That's all you got? Okay, yeah. But I think it was.

That's the dumbest fandom I can think of it was a it was a nice quiet reflective like dignified kind of ending

to the character I want to hear about Dozie Deaky McIntitch maybe they would have yeah that's right yeah

but you know what I mean like it's it's not bombastic it's just a it's just a guy that's true and that's what he is anyway I've got some reviews here Mason it's not bombastic. It's just a, it's just a guy. That's true. And that's what he is. Anyway,

I've got some reviews here, Mason from Jim who says Indy five. Yeah. The de-aging is still a little Mando season two finale. Yes. And yeah, it's still Nazis, but it's a damn good history adventure.

Rob aimed at kids. And I wasn't vomiting member berries by the end. Lucasfilm on form. Best movie ever. I just want to be clear. I just, I've just looked it up. David Bowie wasn't in Mott the Hoople,

but he produced one of their albums and he wrote the song All the Young Dudes. What about them? They're pretty cool. Oh, well, yeah, great. Is that a lyric? Yeah, they're pretty cool. All the young dudes. They're pretty cool. I guess. Tony says, saw Indy 5 last night and it was fine.

Pretty generic plot carried by the charm of Ford and Phoebe and their great chemistry together. Best movie ever. Thanks. Even ever thanks to getting the vibe generally right. Xavier says, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny was great. It could have been nostalgia or because I went in with low expectations, but I really enjoyed it.

Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, 7 out of 10. Dial of Destiny, 8 out of 10. Temple of Doom, 9 out of 10. Raiders and Last Crusade, 10 out of 10. Whoa. Mathvedenix says, just came out of 10 temple of doom 9 out of 10 raiders and last crusade 10 out of 10 whoa math den next says just came out of indiana jones absolutely loved it harrison ford and the entire cast crushed some wonky and sappy parts but that all made it feel authentic it also made me cry and more than once i got a nervous going in but best movie ever and the home video update podcast said that was an indiana jones ass indiana jones movie waste of sorrow and the Home Video Update podcast said, that was an Indiana Jones-ass Indiana Jones movie.

Waste of Zorro and the magical drying clothes were odd, but best movie ever. There you go. This is... I think this is being better received than I thought it would be. Like I think there is a consensus that people seem to sort of like this. I think so, yeah. Which surprises me, to be honest.

Yeah. I think I feel like... Despite some thumbnails you might see. Yeah, I think the review consensus to me seems to be, yeah, like it's better than I thought it was going to be. I think that's probably... Not like this is incredible, this has blown our minds. I think that maybe if they had come out of Cairns and been like,

this is the best thing that's ever happened, then we probably would have a different conversation. I also think there's probably a backlash that seems to be like, well, how good can a movie be if you're only saying it's pretty good? Yeah. Well, it is what it is. Some movies are pretty good. Yeah, some movies are pretty good, yeah.

Do you want to talk about the future before we talk about what happened here? Yes. Oh, yeah, we're going to talk about the bad box office. Yeah. On Phoebe Waller-Bridge replacing Indiana Jones, the survivor, right? She said, I will replace him. There's a scene where I replaced him through time.

Whoa. And I killed him in every movie. Whoa. And I whipped him on the dick and his dick came off. That's right. Then I took his dick and threw it in a river. She said. It sailed down the river and everybody was like,

see you later, Indiana Jones's dick. And they were laughing. Yeah. It's a metaphor, but it's also literal, they said. I'm Phoebe Waller-Bridge. Feminism, that's what she said. And everybody got furious, and they should have. This is what these people sound like to us, by the way.

Just nonsense. Oh, Sid, there's no replacement. Settle down is what I'm saying. No replacement for Indiana Jones in any way. But I feel like the character herself, she did feel fresh on the page and there is a sense of is there room in the world for something like this? So I do think there's room for a slightly clumsier, bruised, limping female action star, maybe in the future.

Yeah, we'll see. Maybe off the performance of this, maybe not. There was also a Ravenwood series that was in development. That's right. Marion's father was going to be a prequel. James Mangold also said he had nothing to do with that when they were kind of making it happen, which it isn't happening at the moment.

And I'm also glad, and I know people have said like, we want a short round, whatever. I'm glad he wasn't in this. Apparently also this was filming at the same time as everything everywhere all at once. So even if he did, he would have turned up at the end of the apartment. Yeah. Too many people in that apartment. Too many people. It's New York apartment.

I'm here too, he would have said. Yeah. Remember me? Yeah. I haven't seen you he would have said. Yeah. Remember me? Yeah. Haven't seen you in 30 years. We do. Remember me? I'm famous again.

I won an Oscar, so I'm here. Yeah, he's my Oscar, by the way. He is. How many have you won? I was just nominated for Witness and nothing else. Interesting. When was that? The 80s?

Yeah, a long time ago. A long time ago, man. The 80s, the future. Interesting. I also think, like, they could just do nothing yeah this could be it it's okay to have a story that ends sometimes you know imagine a world mason yeah all right and then anyway it might be nothing and i'll talk about why but it won't be there will be something yeah yeah yeah so look i know we've talked about it but there is that thing of like the narrative it's it's why kathleen kennedy etc and whatever i'm sure there is a contention of fans who don't see this for that reason but the the sheer numbers that's not enough people

exactly who know who kathleen kennedy is we talk about this all the time but i think you know when people say oh my god this this movie isn't going to do well without the true DC fans to save it or whatever, it's like that represents the tiniest sliver. If you want to make a billion dollars, if you want to make $2 billion, it can't be just a hardcore fan base who love this character and nothing else. You need the general audience, and that's got very little to do

with insider politics or any of these things. It's just does this appeal to the general audience? And it's funny that you say that because this is an old person's property, as in our age and above, right? And I know there are people younger than us who have enjoyed these movies, but on the whole, there was newer people to this franchise, or even people who used to like it who aren't really on board anymore, they're not

interested so this is by thr 42 percent of tickets were bought by those aged 45 and up which included 23 percent bought by those aged 55 or older the demographic also skews male and as you said you need everybody if you want to make a billion dollars you need everybody or everybody needs to bring their kids like mar. Yeah, right. It needs to be something like that. And they need to not have any other options. Like they need to not be like, well, in a couple of weeks we'll just see this on streaming.

Exactly. And these days we don't know. And we've talked about this before, specifically also on Big Sandwich where we talked about some Indiana Jones comics this week. Oh, yes. But the thing about the property of indiana jones is they've sat on this since 2008 that's true the movie happened there's been a couple of video games like a long time ago around there yeah and also like some lego video game stuff yeah but this isn't something that disney have maintained since they've had it.

There was always the word that, like, this was going to happen. It was one of the early things that they announced. But you can't maintain a fan base on this is going to happen eventually. Yeah, over 15 years. And what happened with Star Wars is they slowly built it back up by they did animated series. They did games. Well, they sort of. Like, they're doing more now, obviously.

They had comics. You know, there was TV series. Even in the 90s with Indiana Jones, there was young Indiana Jones. The movies were always on all the time forever. There was video games for like 10 years straight. And different genres if you like an action game or a point-and-click adventure game. I didn't grow up with Indiana Jones. I grew up in the 90s, really.

And I saw all of this content. Like, it was done by the time that we got to it. Yeah, right. Uh-huh. But it was kept alive. Yeah, yeah. And this is something that has not been kept alive. Imagine an animated series in the style of, like, Clone Wars.

Exactly. He's whipping about and he's jumping about. Yeah. You need to kind of get people, like not saturate necessarily, but you need to, you know, drip feed to like young people and audiences. What about something that kept Doctor Who going for years was audio dramas. What about Indiana Jones audio dramas? That would be perfect because that's, you know,

a bold adventurer finding treasure in the in the jungles of peru or whatever that's what those audio dramas were back in the day exactly before tv it was that kind of stuff like give us give us one of those give us a if you can't get harrison ford which you can't yeah you get a harrison ford sound alike i completely agree because there is nothing even the indiana jones comics which there there's not as many as Star Wars because also with the University of Indiana Jones, you're limited because Star Wars you can go anywhere technically. Indiana Jones is a guy.

It is the one guy, yeah. And so there aren't as many comics, but they didn't even re-release the comics. That's true. They haven't been available unless you want to buy hard copies. I don't know. Have they ever been on Comixology? I don't know. I don't know. Have they ever been on Comixology? I don't know. They're not now.

Yeah. They're not on the front page of Comixology probably. Even if they put these on Disney Plus four years ago, I think that would have helped. People don't fucking know this or they know and they don't care. Yeah. When I said in the style of the Clone Wars, I meant the original, like the Tartakovsky,

like the self-made one. Yeah. Either. It doesn't matter. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. So I think also there's a possibility that word of mouth

could carry this further than it's looking to at the moment. But I just think they dropped the ball on this. Yeah. I think they were hoping for a kind of Top Gun Maverick style resurgence of like, oh, my God, this is selling by the billions. How does that happen? Well, because. This isn't Star Wars. No, and because Tom Cruise is, you know, he's kept his profile high

and. He's a lunatic. He's a lunatic. But also, you know, going into like a Tom Cruise movie that he's going to do a thing, right? It's true, yeah. Whereas going into this. He's not going to do a thing. Harrison's not going to do a thing. He might do a thing's going to do a thing, right? It's true, yeah. Whereas going into this. He's not going to do a thing.

Harrison's not going to do a thing. He might do a thing. He might do a thing. But you don't have that kind of, it's just different. It is different. It's different and you need to treat it differently. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Anyways. That's some advice for Hollywood out there. It's different. You've got to treat it different. Treat it different. Treat it mean, keep it keen also. That's right. That's a good one.

That's right. And go broke. Yeah, obviously. Obviously, yeah, yeah. If you take anything away from keen also that's right that's a good one that's right and go broke yeah obviously obviously yeah if you could if you take anything away from this that's right

that's what we're saying yeah notoriously woke franchise the Indiana Jones adventures anyways we'd love to know what people think if they are

interested yeah or don't or don't sure you might be busy yeah should we move on

to the next segment of the show let's move on what is it called it's called what we're reading't. Sure. You might be busy. Yeah. Should we move on to the next segment of the show? Let's move on. What is it called? It's called What We Reading. Yeah. What We Gonna Read. Oh, my God. I'm doing a thing.

Mason, what are you reading? I. I'll start. So basically. Oh, come on, mate. Claire's currently touring the UK. Oh, here we go. She'll be there for the next few weeks.

Should we call it What You're Plugging? Yeah. What You're Plugging For. Well, I'm just saying. Nepotism. the UK. Oh, here we go. She'll be there for the next few weeks. Should we call What You're Plugging? Yeah. What You're Plugging For? Well, I'm just saying. Nepotism. Is it nepotism if it's your wife? Yep. Okay, great.

So she already did her show in London on the 2nd. Big Apple. She's also got one in Exeter on the 4th. She's got one in Dublin at the Bello Bar on the 6th. There's one in Glasgow at Kingsborough Gardens on the 8th. She's gone all over this wide brown land. She's got one of the caves in Edinburgh on July 9th. In a one in Glasgow at Kingsborough Gardens on the 8th. She's gone all over this wide brown land. She's got one of the caves in Edinburgh on July 9th. In a cave,

Jones. In a cave. She's got one at the Eaglin in Manchester on the 11th of July. Manchester. In Petersfield in Hampshire on the 13th. Hampshire. Yep. She's got one on July 16th with Matressence author Lucy Jones. Now, basically, it's an incredible, I think it's an incredible album. It's about like, I don't know,

what's it about, Mason? You've listened to it a hundred times. Motherhood. It's not just motherhood, Mason. It's mostly about motherhood. No, it's an incredible album. It's about like, I don't know, what's it about, Mason? You've listened to it a hundred times. Motherhood. It's not just motherhood, Mason. It's mostly about motherhood. No, it's not actually. It's about love. It is about, it's like, it's folk music, Mason.

That's true. It's kind of a folk, indie folk, pop kind of thing situation. Yeah, no, it is. You're right. There we go. It's also about like love and life. And if you've maybe got a partner you want to bring, you don't have to bring a partner.

You can come by yourself. Like, you know what I mean? Any of these, you could come along if you want to. It's mostly about Avatar like, love and life. And if you've maybe got a partner you want to bring, you don't have to bring a partner. You can come by yourself. Like, you know what I mean? Any of these, you could come along if you want to. It's mostly about Avatar, too, isn't it? There's a lot of Avatar in Avatar 2. Yeah, she's not a fan and she'll tell you all about it. It also doesn't go forever. Like, you could turn up this event and there's not going to be,

like, an hour of preamble or whatever. It's, you know. That's a guarantee. That's the clear-taught guarantee. Well, there will be, like, you know, some of these do have people who are performing. Support acts.

Support acts. Or like poets and various other people and guest speakers. But it's, you know, you're pretty much straight into it is what I'm saying, which is what I love about a concert. But if you want to check it out, the dates, it's claretonti.com slash events. Yeah. Now, I can't attend any of these because I'm here. That's true.

Being a good dad. That's true. And people are like, how are you doing at all, James? How are you surviving? How are you looking after your kids and still working? I'll tell you how. Bath tub crystal meth. No, I'm fucking incredible, Mason, and I'm invincible,

and I'm going to fucking live forever. You are on bath tub crystal meth. No, Mason, the things that I said. I'm incredible. That's how I do it. I'm fucking unstoppable. Yeah. Anyway.

You've got some bathtub crystal meth vibes going on there. And my kids are watching Detective Pikachu. They are watching that right now, yes. Yeah. Yeah. What are you reading? I am all caught up. I'll cut you off there, Mason.

Oh, come on, mate. No, go on. I'm all caught up on Star Trek Strange New Worlds because the new season's out. Three episodes are out so far. Absolutely delightful. Isn't the previous season on YouTube. Three episodes are out so far. Absolutely delightful. Isn't the previous season on YouTube or something now? It might be. Didn't they do that?

Check it out if it is. It's good. And tell you what, we've had three episodes. We've had a courtroom drama, which is, I would say, a classic mainstay of your Star Trek, especially your old school Star Trek. Sure. Because if you recall, end of the last season.

No, I haven't seen it. Okay, well, number one, Rebecca Romijn's character, she was going to be on trial for being genetically engineered. Good. Which is illegal. Yeah, good. And so we had a big courtroom drama. There was a we have to go back in time to the 21st century episode.

Did they meet Kesha? No, they actually don't meet Kesha, no. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Which episode is Kesha in? Every other episode. Okay, right.

Yeah. They go back in time, like, God, finally we're away from Kesha. But you know how, what I thought was interesting is that normally a go back in time to the present day episode is like we've blown the budget. Yeah, sure. So we have to go back, because I actually go back in time to Canada, which is where I assume they filmed it. They probably filmed it, sure. So we have to go back because I actually go back in time to Canada, which is where I assume they filmed it. They probably filmed it, yeah.

So it's Noonie and Singh and she goes back in time with a parallel universe version of James Kirk. Okay. They go back in time and have an adventure because they've got to save the world. There's also an episode, my favorite bit in it, there's an episode where it's Klingon focused. The team has to go and rescue one of the characters from like an outpost full of Klingons.

And there's a scene where the medical team, Dr. Mbenga and Nurse Chapel, they're like surrounded by Klingons and they're like, well, better do some drugs. And they just like shoot a green, like a green chemical in their necks and they just like ruin everyone. They just like clear a room of Klingons

because they're like, well, we're on Venom now, so let's just annihilate everyone. It's super fun. I know there has been talk of new Star Trek is not good or whatever, but this has really found its feet, right? I like all new Star Trek. I know a lot of people don't like Discovery, but I think it's good.

I liked the first season. There you go. And that's all I saw. Look, I appreciate that there's people don't like Discovery, but I think it's good. I liked the first season. There you go. And that's all I saw. Look, I appreciate that there's two arms of Star Trek, one of which is like. I mean, Lord X is great as well. Oh, of course, yeah. But like the one where it's like everything's utopian society

and everything's great. But then I like Discovery where it's like, well, even if there was a utopian society, people wouldn't. You know, there's bumps along the road and a lot of people wouldn't be happy with it anyway. It'd still be something from the outer region which is coming to shoot you. Exactly.

The Gorn. The Gorn are coming. What if the Gorn are there? What if a lizard had to fist fight you? That's right. Yeah. Now, I mentioned this in our review, but our latest episode of the Big Sandwich Comic Book Classic Club or whatever,

we talk about an Indiana Jones comic from the past. And we also talk about the state of Indiana Jones in general. Oh, the absolute stardust. A little bit of what we got into. If you are interested, it's like our Patreon. There's also like from the previous week, which is still up, as is all the stuff we put up. There's a huge back catalogue.

That's right. We played a couple of Indiana Jones games and it's an hour long. That's right. Yeah. Which is time enough to finish one of those games, I reckon. At least one. Oh, I also, and you watched as well the second episode of Secret Invasion. I did.

What did you think? It was all right. Okay. I thought it was an improvement on the first episode. I thought there's a scene between Rhodey and Nick Fury, which I thought was especially good. It's not action packed, but it's just- It's a scroll.

Exactly. And a lot of people I saw on on twitter were like oh all the stuff roadie's saying he must be a scroll and i'm like that just sounded like roadie yeah that's exactly what he's like he's kind of mean and right he's kind of mean and right but he's also the first guy to be like well i think everybody should be in jail you know and that's exactly what it's remember everybody remember in civil war where he shows up and he's like you're under arrest captain america yeah you're probably a bad guy now. Yeah.

You're going to jail. Well, I agree with Captain America actually. Wow. Yeah, that's just my point that I was making. Wow. Because, you know, in the Marvel universe, you know, you're allowed to go just fly off and do whatever. That's true, yeah.

Because there's always a secret something. Yes. And you can't be waiting for a document to come through. That's exactly right. You've got lasers and so forth. You've got lasers and such. Anything else or should we do letters? I think we should do letters.

Is there something else I've watched this week? Probably not. There's no way of knowing, is there? Yeah. Okay, let's just do letters. I finished Silo. It's a good show. Oh, right.

That's also good. I was going to say that's also got Rebecca Ferguson, but we haven't been talking about Rebecca Ferguson. But there is a new Mission Impossible movie coming out. She's probably in that. She's definitely in that. On iPatch. She's definitely in it. new Mission Impossible movie coming out. She's probably in that. She's definitely in that. On my patch. She's definitely in it.

She's got it on my patch. She's probably in it, yeah. Anyway, his letters. The classic one was, Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters. They're only a day away. Ah, wow.

I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. It's a letter segment. Is that right? Absolutely. Am I reading that correctly? That is the letter segment. That's correct. Am I reading that sign that you've put up on the wall, Mason? That's exactly right. It says letter segment. Is that right? Absolutely. Am I reading that correctly? That is the letter segment. That's correct.

Am I reading that sign that you've put up on the wall, Mason? That's exactly right. It says letter segment. That's right. Great. You're absolutely right. Tell me the truth, Mason. Can you send an email to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com?

Yeah. And not only I can do it, other people can do it too. Tell me a second piece of truth. Can you also hashtag weeklyplanetpod if you haven't exceeded your Twitter limit? I cannot tell a lie. Yes, you can. Great. For now. For now. Speaking of Mission Impossibles, here's an email from Teo Salonen.

Okay. Sometimes I read out a full name and I'm like, am I doxing someone? And then I'm like, it doesn't matter. Just move. Yeah, just move. They say, did you know there is a Finnish singer in Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol? Hi, I'm Teo, long time listener from Finland. I didn't know this. No, neither did I. say, did you know there is a Finnish singer in Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol? Hi, I'm Taya, a long-time listener from Finland. I didn't know this.

No, neither did I. Anyway, I watched your most recent Caravan of Garbage about Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. We're doing it. And big stunts are back. That's right. Banger of a video, but did you know that main villain's henchman is a Finnish singer-actor, Sammuli Edelman? No.

He had a notable career in Finnish music and film scene, and this is without question his biggest role, although he does not have any lines. But in Finland, he's not remembered for being the only guy from his country to be in a Mission Impossible movie, but everybody remembers that he jumped from Finland to Sweden in a cruise ship during the 90s just

for laughs and waited in the ocean to be rescued. The ship's captain gave him a lifelong ban to set foot on that ship. Hence there is a term in Finnish language to do the edelmans, which means jumping off a boat. Is this all a lie? It could all be a lie. But it sounds very Finnish, doesn't it?

Sounds very Finnish. It seems very Nokia, doesn't it? Let's see if this has a strong Finnish gone. It doesn't, but my question to you, James, is, a question I posit to you, thank you, Fury and Malteo, who's your favourite singer or musician who's in a movie or a TV series? Who's your favourite? Oh, God.

Well, The Mask too, where Jamie Kennedy does that really sad musical number. Okay. So you're saying your favourite musician in a movie is Jamie Kennedy in the movie The Mask, Son of the Mask. Maybe Bowie in The Prestige. Yep, that's great. Yeah, tremendous. I know people might say Labyrinth.

Yeah. No, but that's great. I mean, and also that's like that's pitched exactly. Yeah. Like that's such a Bowie role. What about Tom Waits in Dracula? I was going to say Tom Waits would be my pick, I think. Yeah.

Yeah. Just love a bit of Tom Waits. Other ones? Sure. What about Eminem in 8 Mile? What about Crew? Crew goes, I've eaten all this spaghetti. Who love a bit of Tom Waits. Other ones? Sure. What about Eminem in Ace Mile? What about Chris? Who goes, I've eaten all this spaghetti. Who wants to rap out on me right now?

Bearing in mind, I'm going to vomit spaghetti on you. They're like, he'll do it too. That was the secret. His arms are weak from all the spaghetti he's been shoveling into his mouth. That's right. He can't cover his mouth when he vomits the spaghetti. What about Creed Bratton in The Office? Oh, yeah.

Who's just Creed. Is this him? It's just, yeah. Who's just Creed. Is that him? It's just, yeah. He was in town recently just to do music. I missed out on tickets. I like, yeah, that's cool. I like that character, that guy, though I don't know anything about him. Same.

What about Madonna in Bond? What about Madonna in Dick Tracy? Sure, good movie. Very good. Very good. I'm just quickly Googling best musicians in film well mine is never going to change

it's going to be Tom Waits Lady Gaga is good in Star Is Born and probably other things that she's in yeah I don't know you don't have to know James

I don't have to know and I won't know that's true Jennifer Hudson's good in things well and that's all she wrote. That's right. Mason, I've got a tweet here. Go on.

From Jamie, who says, hashtag weekly planet pod, I'm re-watching Temple of Doom, and it's just occurred to me for the first time in 30 years that for the number of villages in the village, the child ratio in the mines are fucking mental. Was it 10 kids per family? Potentially, yes. I would say

so, yeah. Because that's the whole vibe of that village, right? Absolutely. That era, what else could you fucking mental was it 10 kids per family potentially yes i would say so yeah because that that's the whole vibe of that village right absolutely what else could you like i mean that era yeah but like in that in that in that time period that they were supposedly living in yeah what else could you do exactly you know do you think um the village watch red notice could you no well probably you could be a bit away you could reenact Red Nose. Yeah, that's fine. Do you think, though, in that movie, as soon as Indiana Jones left, did the village come back to life then? Because he was gone for a few weeks and it would have been a while for the greenery and the fruit to kick in, right?

Okay. So it would have been like at least a month, I feel like, before or between he came back. Because they're like, we knew you were coming back because all the fucking fruit came back or whatever. Remember? Yeah, but I don't know. There's no way of knowing.

Yeah. Good movie. And for Sooth, you were husband and wife the whole time, verily. They're recreating Red Notice. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, they got the biggest guy in the world. We were.

Great stuff. Thank you, Jamie. What have you got? This is from Zachary. Yeah. What happened to Austin Powers? He's fucking dead. I want a sad Austin Powers 5 in the style of Indiana Jones.

Just skip to 5. Skip to 5. In the style of Indiana Jones. Skip to 5 in the style of Leonard Part 6 starring Bill Cosby. Hi, James and Mace. So I've been a fan of the pod for many years. Whoa. Growing up, I always got a fan of the pod for many years. Whoa. Growing up, I always got a good kick out of watching the Austin Powers movies.

It's interesting. For every present-day movie, there seems to be about 100 YouTube video essays. But it seems the Austin Powers movies have been forgotten. Curious to hear your thoughts about and why perhaps the Austin Powers movies haven't resonated with today's audiences or perhaps stood the test of time. Because they're just old comedies now at this point, I think. Yeah, comedy doesn't age particularly well, does it? If you look at like comedies from any era,

like not a lot of them really stick around. And they were, you know, there was a very specific British kind of also pop culture phenomenon. Right. Because there was, you know, there was Spice Girls and Oasis and Coldplay. Cool Britannia. Cool Britannia they called it, exactly.

Yeah, I mean I think it is probably, even though it is like a genre comedy, it's a spy comedy, but comedy doesn't age. There's some good jokes in those movies. Yeah, but comedy doesn't age particularly well oftentimes because Too horny. Too horny and like a lot of stuff, a lot of jokes don't age well. A lot of stuff where it's like, well, it wasn't appropriate then, but we all thought it was appropriate,

so we're going to say these jokes that aren't cool anymore. Or the references like, and also it's been done a hundred times since or a variation on that. Also it gets memed and impersonated to death. Oh, that's true, yeah. Yeah. I think there would be room for something for him to come back. I think people would be somewhat open to it.

Yeah, because sometimes you'll see on Twitter somebody throwing an Austin Powers party or something like that because it's ironic. Because it's so... And it was always ironic, was it? Yeah, but now it's like so uncool that it's cool again. But it's not cool, but it's like it's fun to do it ironically. So maybe we have to just reach a certain time

where it would be like, okay, we're doing this again, are we? But also Mike Myers doesn't want to do Austin Powers again. I think he has talked about it over the years, but also he's had a few things that like the Love Guru didn't do well. He's been in some stuff. That's another thing I think as well. He did the Pentavirinth.

He did the Pentavirinth. Whatever it was on Netflix. Yeah, you're right. Didn't love. I think you're probably right. If he'd had a string of hits, I think people would be like, oh, my God, Austin. You know, they go, the new Mike Myers thing is incredible.

And remember Austin Powers? Yeah. And we go, oh, yeah, of course. But the fact that it's sort of we look back on them less fondly because we go, well, that wasn't great and that wasn't great. So maybe those ones weren't great. Made me too horny, actually. Maybe too horny, baby.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. I don't know. It also felt like by the internet it had run its course that's true you're watching that third one you're like oh yeah all these jokes they're doing them again yeah anyway but make another one it's not my money this is from danny boy re pipes who says hashtag weekly planet pod hey wikipedia brown and at mr sunday movies do you ever eat so much peanut butter that it closes your airway and you're seconds away from death as you scramble for something to drink? I certainly don't.

I certainly didn't do it again just now. No, I don't do that. I haven't done that. I'm just built different actually. Also, if you have done this, your peanut butter is too dry. You want to get like a – A wet peanut butter. No, an oilier peanut butter I would say.

I reckon you should probably like just spoon in half the peanut butter and then put in half water. Yep. And then just sort of shake it around a bit. Okay, and drink it. Yeah, then drink it. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I can tell you the best brand of peanut butter.

Let me just find it. Oh, yeah, it's one of your fancy artisanal ones, isn't it? It is a bit, yeah. Here we go. It's called Ridiculously Delicious, a starting percent Australian old-fashioned peanut butter. It comes in chunky, smooth, and extra chunky. It is about $8 to $9 a jar.

Use it sparingly. That's right. It's very good. Okay. And it tastes – and it's all like, again, it's just pure peanut butter. There's not a bunch of weird shit in it. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, here's an email from Gohar. One piece. One piece? Hi, James and May. I saw the trailer. About a year ago, One Piece beat Batman for total number of copies sold and is now only behind Superman for the best-selling comic book of all time. Considering Superman is quite a bit of a head start of Luffy,

whom I'm assuming is the main character for One Piece. Assuming? You don't need to tell me that. It seems inevitable that before the series ends, it will dethrone Superman. That being said, there's a new One Piece live-action Netflix series starting in August. Yeah.

This one looks promising. Would you guys ever consider reviewing the show? Yeah. I mean, yeah, we don't know. We'd have to do it from the perspective of there are a lot of people who listen who are massive fans of this, the manga and the anime and et cetera. If I could put aside my character guy who knows everything

about anime. You may. I don't know anything about this property other than he's got a straw hat and he's always running yeah also it is fast the only thing that i find fascinating is all i really know about one piece is it's one of i think it might be the longest running it may be the longest running manga yeah close to yeah uh of all time and it's being made by netflix who are going to cancel this series after one season no matter what and also like so who's gonna who's gonna look like like a lot of the other netflix stuff i.e like shit it's yes yeah yeah you know there's that weird look yeah i can't even it's got a color

weird color tone to it i don't know what's going on there yeah i mean i come i'm saying this from the perspective of somebody who liked Cowboy Bebop. Yeah, sure. The Netflix series. Well, not everybody hated that. Yeah, that's true. I mean, you did. I did. Didn't?

Yep. Yeah. Yep. I haven't got any more, but if you've got any more. I don't have any more. Well, let's shut up. Can I finish? Yeah.

I'll end the show and then we'll shut up. Then we'll shut up. Thank God we can finally shut up. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast. We really appreciate it. We wouldn't be here without the wonderful listeners. No. Well, you might be, but there would be less recording.

I hate that they have that hold over us. Right? That power. We're going to get them. We're going to get them one at a time. We'll get them with bad opinions about One Piece. That'll get rid of a lot of the listener base, I think. Yep, yep, yep.

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Let's go and rack him through our musical themes. Next week, what's happening next week? It's another big movie, isn't it? No, week after is Mission Impossible. Next week, we will do Snake Eyes, things we didn't get to it this week. I love that. We ran a little long on Indiana Jones. That's true.

So, I mean, people have already watched it, but if you want to give it a rewatch. Get your copy ready. Yeah, it's on Paramount Plus probably. Probably. Netflix, it's probably on, people have already watched it, but if you want to give it a rewatch. Get your copy ready. Yeah. It's on Paramount Plus probably. Netflix, it's probably on everything. Yeah. I bet it's on everything.

Get in there before they do that inevitable Transformers crossover. That's exactly right. With all the characters from Snake Eyes. Snake Eyes. Yep. Storm Shadow. A girl. Is Mission Impossible not out this week? No.

I think it is. I think it's, isn't it July 5 or something? July 5. You wish. Do you wish, Mason? Yeah. Yeah, Matt. I think it is. I think it's July 5 or something. July 5. You wish. Do you wish, Mason? Yeah. Yeah, Matt. I think it might be.

It says 12, but I think we're getting it early in Australia. Walk the red carpet. Monday, July 3rd. We missed that, didn't we? Well, I'm thinking about something else then maybe. Well, no, it's because they're doing the tour. Tom Cruise has probably already left Australia. We could talk about it. Release date, Saturday, 8th of July. Okay. So we could see it early. We could see it early. Because they're doing the tour. Tom Cruise has probably already left Australia.

Release date, Saturday, 8th of July. So we could see it early. We could see it early. See how we go. We've got to do Snake Eyes, though. We might do Mission Impossible next week, but probably not. Probably not. Because maybe not everybody will get a chance to see it. Definitely.

Tell you what, what you should do, buy your tickets for Mission Impossible and watch Snake Eyes in the theater. Exactly. Perfect. All right, thanks, everyone. Grab that gym, you guys. We'll see you next week. And goodbye.

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