The Weekly Planet - 487 Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part I

Episode Date: July 17, 2023

HOLLYWOOD IS OVER. And by that we mean actors have joined writers in solidarity by also commiting to a strike bring almost all productions to a complete standstill. We break all that down extensively ...plus Disney winding back Star Wars/Marvel streaming shows, Hugh Jackman's Wolverine gets his yellow suit, more casting for Superman Legacy, The Flash fails again in a different way, trailers ahoy for Blue Beetle, Ashoka and Wonka (Jonka?) and of course the big release of the week, Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part 1. Thanks for listening!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:49 The Hollywood Actor's Strike28:22 Less Marvel & Star Wars30:28 Wolverine's Suit in Deadpool 333:25 More Superman: Legacy Casting39:08 How The Flash Can This Happen?44:27 Blue Beetle Trailer48:36 Ahsoka & Wonka Trailers55:53 Barbie vs Oppenheimer Latest59:06 Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part One Review (spoiler warning 01:24:12 to 01:39:46)01:39:46 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:45:30 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Red hot comic book movie news. Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to the Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics. Maybe it'll grow on me. Give it a year.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Let me do this every day for a year. I don't think you could ever repeat that intonation. I don't think you'll ever get it that annoying ever again. You can try, but it's not going to work. You'd have to cut and paste, and then it's not the same. I'll do it. All right. Where were we?
Starting point is 00:01:31 This is the worst start we've ever had. We talk movies and comics and TV shows. Hell, yeah. My name is James. Also known as Mr. Sundane. With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason. Great to be here. That is hard to do.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Anyway, this week, big week for lots of stuff, isn't it? That's right. Big news. Yep. And there's a big movie of the week. Big movie of the week. Well, for now, there's a big movie of the week. That might be slowing down in the, not near future, but a year from now, there might be
Starting point is 00:01:56 less movies. We'll talk about it. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's a knock-on effect. Yeah. These things take time. Because, of course, one of the things we're talking about this week quite extensively
Starting point is 00:02:05 is there's new Hollywood striking going on. That's true. An extra strike. My God. There hasn't been a double strike in- Since 1960. Yeah, there you go. We're going to get into it.
Starting point is 00:02:15 There's also time codes if you want to jump to that. Well, that's the first thing. But then the next bit of news- If you want to jump that, if you're- If you want to jump this to that. If you are new to the whole jumping ahead to a different time code situation and you're a coward and you don't want to jump too far just in case you get lost, like you're some sort of Star Trek adventurer type in deep space.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah. Or Interstellar. Yeah, I like Interstellar. Buzz Lightyear. Buzz Lightyear. Sad Buzz Lightyear. Sad Buzz Lightyear. If you just want to jump a little bit ahead, you can jump to that first piece of news.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Exactly. Or you can jump to any of these pieces of news you're about to say. Exactly. Like Bob Iger talking about pumping the brakes on some Disney properties, Mason. And pumping the brakes on paying people as well. Exactly. He's like, I don't like this. I don't like other people getting paid a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Now, the big news of the week for a time was Hugh Jackman in costume as Wolverine. So we'll talk about that. Some more Superman lives casting. We're going to talk about how the Flash is coming. How the Flash did this happen? I mean, you can own the Flash. Can we call the segment How the Flash Did This Happen? Let me write that down.
Starting point is 00:03:16 All right. How the Flash Can This Happen? How the Flash Can This Happen? Yep, that's good. About how you can own it on home media with a few extra bonuses, Mason, which you're going to love. Trailers ahoy for Blue Beetle, Ahs good, about how you can own it on home media with a few extra bonuses, Mason, which you're going to love. Trailers ahoy for Blue Beetle, Ahsoka, and Wonka. The Barbie Oppenheimer race is going to be the biggest one, Mason.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I think it's probably going to be a Barbie. Probably. And then Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1. What are we reckoning about it? We'll tell you. That's right. In that section of the show. Now, Mason, there's a historic SAG AFTRA Actors Strike happening
Starting point is 00:03:48 in addition to the Writers Strike, Mason. That's a heck of a sentence to say, let me tell you. Exactly. That's a heck of a sentence to hear. Now major productions around the world are impacted. That's right. There's a few that are able to go ahead because they skirt the laws of this because they're starring
Starting point is 00:04:03 people who aren't part of this, because they're starring people who aren't part of this union because they're from other countries. Like, for example, the new Game of Thrones show, that's going ahead, even though the showrunners have already walked off set like months ago. But they're going ahead. They've got the scripts and they're going ahead. Just the surreal enthusiastic actors are just like, come on, put me in, coach. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I can do this. Yeah. There are a whole bunch of restrictions on what people can and cannot do. I don't know if you saw this tweet from Variety. I did. Variety magazine. Yeah. During the strike, SAG-AFTRA members cannot do the following.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Tours, personal appearances, interviews, conventions, fan expos, festivals for your consideration. None of these affect me, Mason. That's right. And none of them will. Panels, premieres, screenings, award shows, junkets, podcast appearances. Oh, no. Social media and studio showcases.
Starting point is 00:04:51 David Harbour was going to be in Melbourne in the next month or so to do a con, Metro. He was going to do a big con on us. He was going to do a big con, but I had a bunch of other actors, but I'm like, oh, David Harbour, maybe I'd like to, you know, maybe he's not coming now, is he? Nope. And then it goes on.
Starting point is 00:05:07 There's a second tweet. Yeah. One of these is for one person in particular, and you can tell. You can't do principle on-camera work, such as acting, singing, dancing, performing stunts, piloting on-camera aircraft, puppeteering, performance capture or motion capture work, and et cetera. So that's Andy Serkis and Tom Cruise together. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:05:32 They cannot work on their next movie together. Gollum is not allowed to be on the top of an old-timey biplane while it does stunts over the bloody county fair. Exactly. That's right. And they're both in an elevator together and they hear this and they're like, ah, dang it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So from now, pretty much every production has shut down. Some of them include Gladiator 2, Mortal Kombat 2, Deadpool 3, Venom 3. These are big sequels, Mason. These are big sequels. And threequels. Yeah. Movies that are upcoming, including Barbie, Oppenheimer,
Starting point is 00:06:08 TMNT, whatever the next one is, The Haunted Mansion, Blue Beetle, The Meg 2, Kraven, these cannot be promoted by any of the actors in them. That's true. That's why they, it seems as if that's why they were cramming so much Mission Impossible and Barbie and Oppenheimer in. They knew this was coming.
Starting point is 00:06:24 There was a, I think it was an early screening of Oppenheimer and they moved it to an hour early. Yeah. And then apparently like Cillian Murphy and Emily Blunt and everybody else who had just left, they're just like, oh, time to go. And this movie's bad. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And oh, my God, Cillian Murphy. Like I don't know anything about the man. But that's why I'm like, because he's a, you know, he doesn't, he's not a big for the publicity. I could just imagine being like, oh, thank God. Oh, thank God. I'm the star of this movie and I don't want to talk about it. Now we should specify also, you know how we mentioned
Starting point is 00:06:58 some things like podcast appearances and social media and that, that is only in relation to promotion or publicity services. So they can just go on social media and that, that is only in relation to promotion or publicity services. So they can just go on social media or a podcast or whatever, but they can't go on and say, like, I'm in this new movie and I love it. Okay. They can't do any of that.
Starting point is 00:07:15 We don't have to hear about it, thank God. I'm Cillian Murphy and I'm in this movie and I'm loving it. He's loving it, by the way. Yeah, that's right. Now, Variety did an interview with Bob Iger and he was actually very disturbed about all of this. He was very disturbed. If you don't know, Bob Iger is the current head of Disney
Starting point is 00:07:32 and will be for the next couple of years. He came back because it was handed over to a different Bob who people perceived to be the builder. And it's said that he did a shonky job on it, Mason. That's right. A shonky build. That's right. Andky build that's right and kind of ran it into the ground a little bit and there was too much emphasis on certain things
Starting point is 00:07:49 and not enough on others and the parks took a dip and whatever so bob eiger came back yeah and gave other bob the the boot and but in regards to these two strikes he says it's very disturbing to me he's your dad isn't he no he's not we've done that as a bit that's never really worked i'll be honest with you it's never really worked but no my dad is a retired civil engineer yeah he's unrelated but he's a big fan of bob bob eiger yeah loves him yeah because he when you're practically brothers yeah he says he's like my second dad because he your your like your origin is like the ending of revenge of the sith where your dad hands you to Bob Iger. Is that correct? Sure, it absolutely is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yep. Good. So he said, we've talked about disruptive forces on this business and all the challenges we're facing, the recovery from COVID, which is ongoing. It's not completely back. This is the worst time in the world to add to that disruption.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That's right. Worst time to do it, baby. Woo! Exactly, which makes it the best time to do it. Now, let's talk about some specifics. Oh, this actor's alleged to have done a bunch of horrible stuff. Now a bunch of other people have come out and alleged he's done horrible stuff. Convenient timing.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah. Oh, they're doing it just as his movie's coming out. Yeah. That's how these things work. That's how you do it. That's how you get the big promo, man. Yeah, that's right. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah. Makes sense. But, yeah, that's bad slash good timing. Exactly. And as has been pointed out, I believe the average writer's salary, somebody worked it out, the average writer's salary in Hollywood is just under $70,000. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:17 It's a very nice $69,000. And Bob, I guess. That's average, by the way. Yeah. So obviously that is a big range. So there's people earning hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions for big movie scripts or whatever, and there's people earning $100 a day or whatever. But Bob Iger's salary, if you average that out, is $74,000 a day.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yep. Let's talk about that. So Bob Chapek, who was the head of Disney before Bob Iger, he made $32 million in 2021. Bob Backish, who's just got to be a Bob, I guess. He was, he is head of Paramount Global. He made 32 million in 2022. David Zaslav behind Warner Brothers Discovery, who's currently gutting it to sell, made $39 million in 2022. So this is what, this is the kind of salaries that we're talking about here. And look, I think if they want to earn all of that money, I don't care. Like it doesn't matter to me if they earn that much money but oftentimes
Starting point is 00:10:09 the people who earn these kinds of money they're not there's no creative input in that and the people who are actually making these things they're not actually being compensated in any real way and let's talk about that because this is via deadline this was a quote that happened just before the the actors strike joined the writers strike the big one yeah this is because this is via Deadline. This was a quote that happened just before the actor's strike joined the writer's strike. This is the big one. Yeah. This is in a way, I would say, a tactical error on behalf of the bigwigs. I feel like also this was
Starting point is 00:10:33 clearly like, I mean, Deadline also is owned by a billionaire and put out some tweets that were like Matt Damon seemed like he was in support of them going back to work. It seems like a video of Matt Damon saying people should be going back to work that cuts off suddenly. Yeah, weird. Mid-sentence. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Anyway, an anonymous studio executive told Deadline, The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses. Acknowledging this cold as ice approach, several other sources reiterated the statement. One insider called it a cruel but necessary evil. So this is what we're talking about here, right? Lizards. Yeah, absolute fucking ghouls. And look, I want to get into like the common criticisms
Starting point is 00:11:14 that people might have towards writers and like, because, you know, we get comments and you see them online about like. They're too woke. Et cetera. Yeah, we're going to talk about all of that. No, I did it. I covered all the main points just then, so. Yeah, but the thing is, none of these companies No, I did it. I covered all the main complaints just then.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Yeah. But the thing is, none of these companies are strapped for cash. Like, at all. Except maybe for Warner Brothers. Well, even then, right? They can come up with the money. Absolutely, they can. Well, they're strapped for cash once they've paid their executives tens of millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, exactly. But even then, not really. No, that's true. So the studios and streamers, what they thought was going to happen, that the financially strapped writers would go to the WGA leadership and demand they restart talks before what could be a very cold Christmas.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Hmm. Some Scrooge McDuck shit, mate. So here's what the actors want. I think you're thinking of the other Scrooge. What? Scrooge from A Christmas. No, they're both awful. Oh, okay, right. Wow. Wow. I didn't misspeak. I stand by that a Christmas. No, they're both awful. Oh, okay, right. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I didn't misspeak. I stand by that.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Wow. So the actors apparently were coming to the table at one point. Like this was, they were looking to avoid this. And what they're, it's a couple of things that they want, and this is not unreasonable. They want residuals from streaming services. Now we've talked about this before. So if you do like a proper cable show,
Starting point is 00:12:24 like say you're on Friends or something big in the 90s or even something that's pre-streaming, right? Your residual checks are in the thousands, sometimes tens of thousands if you are like a bigger name or you had a significant role. But even if you had like, if you had one line in an episode of Cheers 35 years ago, every time that show airs on cable or a network TV, you get a check. And it might be a small amount, but it's forever. Yeah, unless they do like creative accounting on you, how David Prowse, who played Darth Vader, never got any money
Starting point is 00:12:54 for Return of the Jedi because it never made any money somehow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only person on Twitter who should have the blue check that lets them do long tweets is John Cusack because he's just out there being like, yeah, I was in the movie with that boom box and they said I'd get points, net points off the whatever. Yeah. And it turns out that movie's never made a profit.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Whoa, really? Yeah, it turns out. That's crazy. Yeah. But now with streaming services, they keep all their numbers a secret in terms of what's being streaming unless they want to come out and say like Red Notice is the biggest movie that anybody's ever made.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah. And we can attest to that because we're currently watching it again right now as we're talking. That's right. That's why if we seem distracted, it's because we're both watching Red Notice. I'm just so tired of doing this podcast while watching Red Notice. We're going to knock this out of the way and then I'm going to go put my full attention on Red Notice again. Exactly. So they keep those numbers close to their chest because if they came out and said, well, this show got this amount of viewers, then you've got a definitive number that you could put on an actor or a writer or anybody who participates in that show, which they could then pay them
Starting point is 00:13:52 for. You could be like, well, the value you bring to this is X and we can pay you that. But they don't want to reveal that information because then you have to pay somebody what they're worth. So they're getting like fractions on a dollar for things that they did. Apparently, I only learned this this week. Well, not apparently. what they're worth. So they're getting like fractions on a dollar for things that they did. Apparently I learned, I only learned this this week. Well, not apparently I did learn this this week,
Starting point is 00:14:09 but apparently one of Netflix's executives during a toast some years ago, uh, revealed that just, we're just doing a toast showing off revealed that orange is the new black, which is one of their most successful, like one of their early successes at the time was doing better than game of thrones viewing wise. And I think the actors on that show up are being paid about 15 grand an episode.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Exactly. Whereas the actors on Game of Thrones were being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars an episode, a million dollars an episode, whatever it was. And some of them got to be in the New Mutants. Yeah. And that's incredible. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we know recently that the guy who created Squid Game,
Starting point is 00:14:45 a property which made $900 million for Netflix, and is a show that literally every person on earth, if they haven't seen it, they know what it is. And it's about poor people being exploited by rich people. It's not about what it's about, Mason. But that is what it's about. Yeah, next to nothing for that property, which exploded, was the biggest show in the world for like
Starting point is 00:15:07 a year. Yeah. No, for a streaming show, that was longer than you'd think. No, that's true, yeah. The other thing is, one of the proposals that the studios were doing was that if you are a background extra, you would come in for a day's work, you would get paid for a day's work, they would then scan your likeness and then own the rights to you to put in the background of any scene in perpetuity yeah forever for nothing and apparently that's already happening
Starting point is 00:15:32 oh yeah that's happened to people on various shows uh uh yeah they're people are just like people just milling around being background extras i mean this is anecdotal but i i sort of on twitter a bunch and producers come up to him and go, like a bunch of them go, hey, can you just come into the trailer for a second? And then they'd scan him and then get the next person. And, yeah, that's what's happening. And apparently it's in some people's contracts, I guess. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Or it's not, and they're just like, we'll see how this goes. What, are they going to come after us? Yeah, yeah. Eventually, yes. Now, we've talked about this before, but what the writers want is a pay increase of 49%, and this is so that they make decent money to live on. This could also include things like pensions and healthcare, plus residuals, which we talked about.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Often also, streaming services are deleting content, so any residuals that they have to pay, which is very little, they don't have to pay if they delete it. We've seen that a lot recently. Remember Rise of the Pink Ladies, a show that just came out and got a bunch of Emmy nominations? It's gone, right? I don't remember it. No, well, it's gone.
Starting point is 00:16:30 It is gone from my memory, James. It is gone as if it never existed. I'll never know how that car gained the ability to fly. Absolutely. I'll never know how all those high school teens got so old and greasy. I think they just got kept down. Oh, yeah. So they all stayed there until they were 40.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah, that's probably it. The other thing they wanted to crack down on was studios do mini rooms where they bring in a handful of writers and they map out a series before it's greenlit and then are not compensated for the length of the series. It's basically come in, write the show for us. Thank you very much. We'll take it from here. We'll just use all of your ideas.
Starting point is 00:17:02 The other thing is shorter exclusivity. Now, that was fine when they'd have like 22 episodes of a show a year, if you did like a sitcom or a law and order or whatever. But now they're doing eight to 10, which means basically you write those episodes, you get paid less. And also you basically sit around and can't work on anything else until that exclusivity expires and you can move on. And that also means that you need multiple jobs a year as opposed to doing the one. Yeah. And a lot of people are like, well, actually- If you can get them. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, a lot of people are like,
Starting point is 00:17:30 well, the average is 70,000. That's pretty good. It is absolutely decent money. Absolutely it is. But at the same time, a lot of writers will do one job and then they don't get another job for a year or two years or something. Also, let's be real. If you're not getting health insurance, if you are living in an expensive city, which often you'd have to be to work on something like that, you know what I mean? You have to get to and from work. You don't have any of these social safety nets. That is not enough money to live comfortably on, like to live above the poverty line.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I know it sounds like a lot of money and it is depending where you are, but that is a ludicrous amount of money. Also considering how much money these shows make and who's getting the actual money. They also want safeguards around AI because they're talking about how AI could write shows, which also at this point in time is not actually possible. What they actually are planning on doing is get AI
Starting point is 00:18:19 to map out something and then actual writers have to come in and they get paid basically to punch up scripts that are bad. Yeah, that are bad. That are dreck. Yeah, absolute junk. That are slop. Let me ask you this question, James, just as an aside. Do you think that a show like A Law and Order or maybe some sort of procedural show, I don't
Starting point is 00:18:39 personally think anything has gone to air that's been AI written, but I believe that somebody at the very least has submitted a script and had it approved. 100%. That is AI generated. They just put in every previous law and order script or whatever it was, Grey's Anatomy, if that show is still going, and they just popped one out and went, good, and they went, sure. Yeah, why not?
Starting point is 00:19:00 Well, I mean, we're seeing it in articles online, and it's very obvious now. Yeah, yeah. But in a few years it might not be. That's true. Yeah, what I'm talking about is seeing it in articles online, and it's very obvious now. Yeah, yeah. But in a few years, it might not be. That's true. Yeah, what I'm talking about is people can't afford food, rent. There are people who have been nominated for award shows who can't afford to go to those award shows.
Starting point is 00:19:14 We're talking about basic human needs, which should extend across all industries. This isn't something that should only exist for the elites in Hollywood or whatever. Podcasters and such. Exactly, yeah. This is something that should only exist for like the elites in Hollywood or whatever. Podcasters and such. Exactly, yeah. This is something that should be extended. Real men, construction workers, podcasters, plumbers, you know. Exactly. These are basic human needs which should extend into all sectors
Starting point is 00:19:36 because I've seen like a criticism, which I think is totally valid when people are like, well, I don't get paid very much for what I do. How come they're getting paid that much? And you're right because you should be getting paid more like a livable wage for what you're doing. But that's not related to this. You not getting money for your job isn't related to these people not getting money for their job.
Starting point is 00:19:57 These are different psychos running this game, right? That is true, actually, yeah. Or the same psycho could be. We're all fighting billionaires. We're going to kill the billionaires. We're going to kill the billionaires. We're going to kill some billionaires. We're going to kill them. Do you want to hear a crazy number? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:11 The total money that the WGA wants, so the Writers Guild want, for what they are proposing, for everybody is $420 million. Oh, that is a crazy number. It's not though. That's the weed number. When you consider Indiana Jones cost $300 to $400 million,
Starting point is 00:20:32 and that's one blockbuster for one thing, right? For one week, then we're going to forget about it. Yeah, and I'm not even saying, like, make one less movie because it's not just one or two movies coming out a year. It's multiple movies it's merchandise it's theme parks it's all of the it's tax benefits which all these companies are getting the money is there 420 million dollars is fucking nothing to these people but i paid 420 million dollars went up to the valley movies i got a popcorn and a large coke you're not wrong bro i'm
Starting point is 00:21:02 not wrong at all i am not wrong at all. It is the micro's macro. You know what I mean? Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And I think the idea that these CEOs think they can ride this out, I'm hoping that that's laughable. I'm hoping it's the opposite because a lot of executives live and die on like quarterly earnings.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah. And at a certain point, they're going to have to go to their bosses and go. Or shareholders. Yeah, yeah. And they say, hey, they're going to have to go to their bosses and go. Or shareholders. Yeah, yeah. And they say, hey, what's going on with these actors, whatever. What's new in the pipeline this month? And they have to go, nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yeah. And then they're out. Exactly. There's only so many times they can say, we've got things ready in the can. And they could also do that when it was just the writers because you could say, well, we had all these scripts in development and we've got a bunch of them that we've banked and we can move forward on things, which we've seen. All of these properties that we mentioned that were stalled, they were still moving forward. That's true.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And now they can't. And this is going to dry up very quickly. And the thing is, there is actually like a strike fund for members who are falling on hard times where money is being raised by those who are really affected by this and are having trouble paying rent and medical bills and all that it's called entertainment community fund.org and i'm not even suggesting that people you know you can donate to that if you want to but also understand that people have their own struggles but what my point is that they can i believe and i hope can outlast yeah this yeah. I'm sort of hoping that a lot of people will see this and the longer the drags out go, maybe I should go on strike.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, maybe. You know, if these people can go on strike. Exactly. Maybe I can go on strike in my job. I mean, we see this like the UPSs, you know, there's strike action, you know, they're talking in regards to that. But I think what's interesting about this is that it's so public and entertainment is in our
Starting point is 00:22:45 homes where it's like remember get out of my home yeah but like the john deere strike that happened which was successful that doesn't affect like that doesn't come into your house that's true unless you get these deers out of my house so i i like the optics that you can get on this anyways i just want to answer some questions that the people have either thrown our way or I've just seen in general. Now, this isn't necessarily a dig at anybody asking this question unless you want it to be. Unless we say shut up. Unless you tell you what. We'll see if James asks the question in a whiny voice.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah, here we go. Because then we are having a dig. If we start with er, we are taking a dig. No, one of the complaints I've seen is, well, look, I don't even like this stuff that comes out of hollywood so who cares but here's the thing right do you like banks do you like lining up at the post office do you like getting on a grubby train for work because people in all of the yeah i do too the people who work in all the industries even the industries that you fucking hate dealing with they are also entitled to a livable wage just because this is an entertainment industry there is this
Starting point is 00:23:45 idea that, oh, this should be, you love it. You should do it for free. Nothing should be done for free when you're working for somebody. That's true. That's a fucking lie that people tell you to get you to do shit for free. You've mentioned this one when people say, well, you know, if they give into some of these demands and I don't think it'll be all of them. I think it'll be some, hopefully, you know, won't they just want further demands? Like you've these demands, and I don't think it'll be all of them. I think it'll be some, hopefully. You know, won't they just want further demands? Like, you've talked about that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Do you want to feel that way again? Well, I mean, you know, people are like, oh, the union movement was good back in the day. Union movement was good back in the day, but we don't need it anymore. And it's like, well, if you stop, if the unions go away, they roll back everything, don't they? Exactly. And you see that, like, anti-union busting
Starting point is 00:24:23 has been absolutely fucking rife, like, the world over. And you see that, like, anti-union busting has been absolutely fucking rife, like, the world over. And you look at wages in relation to inflation, look at it in relation to, you know, I'm talking like going to the supermarket, look at the cost of things now compared to what it used to be, look at what it costs to buy a house. Like, these things are not in line anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It's got absolutely insane. And the thing is about these negotiations, this shouldn't be a one-time thing. Like, the industry and all industries are constantly evolving. Like the idea of AI and streaming services, these things like five years ago, it wasn't, well, maybe not so much streaming service, but you know, these things weren't at the forefront. These things need to be ongoing. That's true. These things constantly need to be assessed. Because the tech keeps evolving. Exactly. Exactly. And that's everywhere. I mentioned the thing about, you know, it's a privilege to work on.
Starting point is 00:25:07 This is another question I might answer before. It's a privilege to work in like an entertainment industry and do something like that. And I think just because you, yeah, just because you love something or you like writing on Star Trek or whatever, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't get paid for it. Like that's insanity. Yeah. Just because you shouldn't only get paid if you hate your job is my point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yeah. Um, you mentioned this up top. Everything is woke. I don't even think that's true. And also everything. I actually was making a joke. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:32 I know. I know. But I mean, I mean the biggest movie of last year or one of, uh, was, was Top Gun, right?
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah. Look, there is messaging in that movie. They also tried to remove a flag from Maverick's jacket to release it in China. And some people would consider that one. Maverick's jacket to release it in China. And some people would consider that one. His flag that said, I hate China. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And the thing is, like, everything that gets greenlit is only at the behest of the studio. And it's only greenlit because they look logistically, where can we make money? Where are the markets which we can get this into? That is why anything is greenlit. That's true. There's no pressure.
Starting point is 00:26:07 These people don't succumb to light pressure. Like, oh, we want to see a gay couple hold hands, and then they put it in the background of a Star Wars movie. They can easily remove. Fucking, I just don't believe that. Anything woke in a movie is because they feel like that will get an extra bum on a scene. They're exploiting that market sector, baby.
Starting point is 00:26:28 That's all it is. And we've talked about before that if you value that representation, sometimes they get creative people to make a property. And they believe it. And they believe it, and that's great. But they are allowed to do that. They're not going in and screaming a Bob Iger to put it in. Because he'll get them killed, basically.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And the last thing is, as I mentioned before, people mentioned that's more than I get paid. And look, again, that's awful. That's bad. Again, that doesn't mean if you don't get paid as much as somebody else, you are also being taken advantage of.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And I'm sorry that that is happening. It's just a different guy in a suit. It's a different guy in a suit or it could be the same guy. It could be the same guy. It could genuinely be the same guy. Ultimately, when you go back, it's probably everything's owned by Unilever. Exactly. Who are not a sponsor of us.
Starting point is 00:27:13 No, this week they are. Okay. Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm quickly Googling Unilever's biggest competitor. Yeah. Anyways, I am. Gorillas.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Who have been killed by palm oil anyways i'm sorry to get into all of that uh no i'm not that's not true i'm sorry it went so long there you go i can see that yeah but i just think like i don't know man it's think people are hurting like the world over yeah i mean, I don't know, man. It's fucked. And all these billionaires are going to die with $100 billion in their bank account. Yep, exactly. You can get it from them.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Or a disgruntled Amazon employee will shoot them in the head when they emerge from their Amazon bunker in the future. Exactly. It'll just be a ring of disgruntled. They're going to repurpose one of those Amazon delivery drones and drop a landmine into their bunker. That's what's going to happen. But they can change it.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I mean, that's the thing. They've got the power to change this. There is also this idea that, look, if, and I love that it's kind of flipped this time where it's like, why don't these people just get back to work? Why don't they get paid properly? Great point. Like, this isn't like one of them flicks a switch. Like, this can be solved by more than one party.
Starting point is 00:28:27 That's true. Let's have a party, Mason. Oh, my God. Let's have a party. And talk about Bob Iger. Yeah, great. He spoke to CNBC this week and he said, Disney are trying to save $5 billion.
Starting point is 00:28:38 By the way, guys, we're talking about fun trailers later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People can skip. They probably would have all left. They may have left. I just killed them. They're writing an email. Yeah. some one person is writing an email and i'll need to be clear i'm gonna delete it i'm gonna read it i'm just gonna delete it excuse me i'm in college i'm first year in college and i have some stuff to say you know i've done an economics that's great well we've all done an economics also like student like student debt is fucked. What are we even talking about?
Starting point is 00:29:06 Come on. That's a ridiculous system. Yeah. Let's be realistic. You saddle someone with a debt which they can't default on. They sign it when they're 17. What the fuck is happening? Come on.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Anyways, Marvel. Anyway, Bob Iger said that. Guys, we said Marvel, so everything's fine. Yeah, we're back into it. They're going to pump the brakes on Marvel and Star Wars series. He said Marvel is a great example of that. That's so true. It had not been in the television business at any significant level.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Disagree, but all right. Not only did they increase their movie output, but they ended up making a number of TV series, said Iger. And frankly, it diluted focus and attention. I don't disagree. I also think they turned to that during lockdown and their streaming service was kicking off. That's true.
Starting point is 00:29:46 So that's why they did it. But now they're like, oh, now people aren't seeing our movies because we put them on streaming three weeks after or whatever. That's exactly right, yeah. So now they're like pulled back on that. Also, there is too much Marvel stuff, quite frankly. Whoa. You've been watching Secret Invasion?
Starting point is 00:30:00 Nope. No, I have, but I'm an episode behind. Whoa, it's going to blow your mind. I don't think it is. No, I have, but I'm an episode behind. Whoa, it's going to blow your mind. I don't think it is. Yeah. I saw two things. One, I saw a tweet.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Someone said, boy, this Secret Invasion revelation would have been really exciting seven years ago. And Don Cheadle liked the tweet. And the second thing, Iman Valani, who plays Ms. Marvel, is apparently writing a Ms. Marvel comic book coming up. There was a photo of her and a friend of hers, I think, perhaps, or maybe a comic writer, I'm not sure. Who was it, Mason? I don't know who it was, and I'm not going to look it up.
Starting point is 00:30:36 They're in a comic book shop, and they're holding the Death of Ms. Marvel comic book, and they're like, brr. And also, I think Marvel have already revealed the new comic book that Ms. Marvel is going to be in, despite the fact that she's dead. Is it Ms. Marvel is alive again? Yeah, it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:50 She's back. Yeah, surprise, idiots, it's called. You didn't think we'd do it, but she's back. She's back. Let's do some lighter news now, Mason. It's time for lighter news. Before it's shut down, Deadpool 3. We're going to talk about all the lighters.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Zippo, Bic. Just two sticks. Yep. Two sticks. What about those metal sticks in your camping? You're clanking them. Clanking them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:11 What about some matches? It's not a lighter, though, is it? That's a great point. You don't think they count? No. All right. Get rid of your matches, folks. Throw them in the bin.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Throw them in the bin. Exactly. Throw them in a fire. So Deadpool 3. Yes. We got the reveal earlier this week of Hugh Jackman in the classic. Throw him in the bin. Exactly. Throw him in a fire. So Deadpool 3. Yes. We got the reveal earlier this week of Hugh Jackman in the classic yellow Wolverine costume. At last.
Starting point is 00:31:30 What do you think? Looks pretty fun. It looks like the costume. It does. Some people have said less sleeves maybe. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because traditionally he's got the big gun. And also Hugh Jackman, he's got those guns. So why wouldn't he?
Starting point is 00:31:41 He's got them guns, yeah. And they're fighting on set. I don't know if you've seen some of those photos happening. I have seen. They're doing some big wire work. And there's also a big 20th Century Fox logo buried in the dirt. I love that. One, because they're finally building big sets.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It's not green screen, which is nice. I bet some of it is. I bet a lot of it is, yeah. Maybe this is the one bit of set they've actually built. Yeah. But again, so a lot of this seems to be, if we're divining the plot from this sort of stuff and the cameos we've shown, we've heard are on the way.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Yeah. This is a lot of, you see, is Deadpool diving into the Fox back catalogue of bad? To kill everyone? Yeah, maybe Deadpool kills the Fox with Marvel Universe. Or saves, maybe he saves it. Maybe. Maybe he ends up in a, if I had to guess, I would say
Starting point is 00:32:27 maybe he ends up in some sort of reality that's on the verge of being destroyed and it's got all those remnants of characters in it or something like that. Well, that's cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah. We won't get into more cameos. I saw some online this week, but yeah, there are cameos. Oh, there are cameos. Galore happening. That's right. If you like a cameo. If you love when you're watching a movie and then a bunch of people go, I'm here and you recognize me, you're going to love this movie. That's often good because sometimes I don't recognize them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:54 So it's nice to have, you know, that. That happened to me with, what was I watching? It was Anna Wintour. And I'm like, I don't know who that is, I think. And I'm like, I think it was in the Sex and the City episode. And it felt, and I know I was watching it with my wife, Claire, who you love. But not like, just like platonically, yeah?
Starting point is 00:33:14 And I'm like, oh, this is what a normal person feels like watching any of the movies that I watch. Right. Where they're like, it's Anson Mount from the Inhumans TV series? Right. All right then, I guess. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:33:26 It's Anna Wintour from the Vogue Cinematic Universe. God, she's so dastardly. So dastardly. So, yeah, Deadpool 3 is currently shut down. That was one of the few productions that went ahead, despite Ryan Reynolds not being able to improv on set, apparently, because the writers strike and all of that. But now that is shut down.
Starting point is 00:33:46 That's right. Ba-bam. Stop doing it. I have. It's okay. Stop it as much as you can. Yeah. Do you want to talk about Superman Lives casting though?
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yes. All right. Big news. And I'm just going to see if I can stop the dogs from barking. I love it. Who is it? Who is it? Oh, it's Ollie.
Starting point is 00:34:04 He's here. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha? Who is it? Oh, it's Ollie! He's here! You're outside now, you're inside. I don't know if you noticed Mason, but Ollie made an appearance in our latest Caravan of Garbage. I did see that. Saved of the day. The real hero of cinema, Mason. That's so true. What were we talking about? Superman lipscasting. So this movie is now two years away.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Well, plus strike time. Plus strike, etc. And we've got some casting this casting. Oh, yeah. So this movie is now two years away. Well, plus strike time. Plus strike, et cetera. And we've got some casting this week. All right, here we go. Isabella Mesed. Now she's going to be Hawk Woman. Hawk Woman, that's right. And we saw Hawk Man recently.
Starting point is 00:34:34 That's true, we did. Hawk Girl, it says. I don't know. It could be Hawk Woman. I don't know. E.D. Gathegi is Mr. Terrific. Now people remember him as Darwin the Mutant who cannot die and is the only one who dies in X-Men First Class.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, he shouldn't have told everybody he wasn't going to die. That's right. Big mistake. Hey, my powers, I will never die. We should give a quick breakdown of these. Hawkgirl is from another planet of hawk people. Or she's a reincarnated magic person. Yep, sure.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So one of those. And her wings are either made of nth metal and technologically based or magic based or she's got real wings. Yeah, pick your poison. No, we won't. What were they in the last movie? Dunno. What were they in Black Adam?
Starting point is 00:35:15 Dunno. That's a great question. What were they? Was it a suit? Did he put on a suit? I think he did, yeah. Let's watch that movie right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:21 After Red Notice. Same time as Red Notice? Same time. And then after that we'll cleanse the palate with a little. After Red Notice. Same time as Red Notice? Same time. And then after that, we'll cleanse the palate with a little bit of Red Notice. Oh, yeah. It's going to be hard to watch the sequel to Red Notice when I'm still watching original Red Notice. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I don't know how I'm going to do it. I don't think it's going to be hard for me at all. We just built differently. I'm a real redhead, you know? Yeah, it's true. Like the matches. That's true. Is that a local reference?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Doesn't matter. Mason? Mr. Terrific. It's a callback, certainly. Yeah, yeah. Did a lighter talk earlier. Yeah, but like redhead, as in like the types of matches. I think that's Australian.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Is that Australian? That's Australian, yeah. Okay, great. So, Mr. Terrific, smart man. Anything else? Yeah. Technologically sound. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Well, one of the world's smartest men. Cool jacket. Very cool jacket. Has fair play down the sides. Yeah, man. Invisible to technology. Uh-huh. But not like sonar or some stuff, I think.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I don't know. There's some things that he's not, yeah. But his iconic weaponry is the T-Sphere, which is like his little drones that follow him around and they can shoot lasers and so forth. Absolutely. Pretty cool stuff. He's had appearances in the CW universe.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Oh, okay. In the various animated universes, I think. Big Brain. Big Brain. Yeah. I think he's like the third smartest person in the DC universe. I guess behind Batman and Lex Luthor. Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Who knows? I think he should be smarter, though. Yeah? Yeah. I think he should go back to school. Just put it out a couple of years. Yeah, if you wouldn't mind. Who knows? I think he should be smarter, though. Yeah? Yeah. I think he should go back to school. Just put it in another couple of years. Yeah, if you wouldn't mind. What area?
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah, maybe do some brain training on Nintendo 3DS. That's a great idea. Yeah. Get your stylus ready, Mr. Terrific. Yeah, do some Sudoku, you know? Yeah, that's right. Really stretch that brain out. Anthony Carrigan.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Oh, that's, he's from, he's Hank from Barry, yeah. That's right. He plays Metamorpho. Oh, that's – he's from – Barry. Hank from Barry, yeah. That's right. He plays Metamorpho. Oh, the element man. Yeah. Some kind of – does he touch a thing or can he just do it? I can't remember. No, that's the absorbing man.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Metamorpho can turn – oh, I mean, they may have changed it since the last time I read a Metamorpho story. Yeah. But he can transform partly or fully into, like, any element that's within the human body. Oh, within the human body. Yes. So what if he puts something in his body?
Starting point is 00:37:26 I don't think that would work. Can he transform it to that? No. Like a big rubber. Go on. Egg? A big rubber egg. I don't think so, no.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Okay. No. It is ear. I don't think so, no. Okay, yeah, cool. He could just, in this, he could just be able to turn into whatever element he wants. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:42 What do you think about that? I'm fine with it. Okay, great. Apparently all these characters are also going to serve the story and it doesn't mean they're going to get their own spin-off. Yeah, I mean, based on most of these, the characters we're getting here would suggest to me that they are background players
Starting point is 00:37:55 or they're characters that Superman meets along the way or, you know, they're in an opening action sequence and they leave. Superman kills them. Exactly. He might kill them. I mean, based on the next one you're going to say, which I think is- Oh, you thought I'd forgotten, everybody, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:38:10 It's Nathan Fillion. He's Green Lantern. Yeah. But not Hal Jordan. Not the Hal Jordan Green Lantern. Guy Gardner. Oh, my favourite. He's the-
Starting point is 00:38:19 The worst. The worst one. He's got a big bowl cut and he's a real jerk. Yeah. I mean, a lot of them are real jerks. Hal Jordan's kind of a jerk. Yeah, they're all jerks. But this one especially is, he's notable in being more of a jerk than Hal Jordan. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Which makes me, like, that feels to me like it is, I mean, it's a James Gunn movie and, you know, him and Nathan Fillion are friends and he's been in James Gunn movies before. He was just in Guardians 3. That suggests that he's going to be in it, you know, for a little bit. He's also, he's TDK.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Oh, yeah, of course he is. Yeah, that's right. Which basically, because they're doing a universe reset, other people can be other things and whatever. That's true, yeah. James Gunn took to threads, I believe. Oh. Wow, early adopter.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Wow, yeah. He said, given my old pal Nate a bowl cut might be my primary reason for casting him. That would have been my primary reason for doing that as well, for anybody's billing. Who would look dumb in a bowl cut? Everybody. But who's the person who would hate it the most? That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah, so that's fun. I love all of that, and I'm hoping it's a good movie. Because sometimes, every now and then, there is a good movie. They knock one out of the park somehow. Yeah, that's right. Here's a quick question. Would you prefer to be Hal Jordan? No. Me neither. I be Hal Jordan? No.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Me neither. I think Hal Jordan will be like a – I think they mentioned Channing Tatum maybe. Okay. But like someone like that is fine. I think they might get like a Corrin Sweat. I think they might get someone that level, like newish, relatively unknown. I like like Nathan Fillion can do like arrogant, like kind of loser. And he probably doesn't want to commit to 10 movies or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Or he does. I don't think he does. I mean, he did like eight seasons of Castle and a million seasons of The Rookie or whatever. And a hundred seasons of Serenity in our hearts. That's right. I know it's called Firefly Mason. You don't have to fart down my throat,
Starting point is 00:39:59 which is a common Australian expression. That's true, yeah. It's by IGN in our segment called How the Flash Can This Happen? Oh, my goodness. Good thing I wrote that down. I'd already forgotten. Now, you're going to love this because the flash is coming to your home in the film.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Not really, thank goodness. In the form of. I'm going to set up a metal detector. In the form of either digital or physical release. But that's not the only way you can experience The Flash. Well, that's not enough for me. Do you want to spend more money? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Okay, so Warner Brothers. I want to get something of no value. You're going to love this then. Okay. Warner Brothers Discovery has announced today that its latest superhero flick, The Flash, is its latest blockchain movie. Meaning you will be available to purchase this film as a non-fungible
Starting point is 00:40:45 token NFT. The best time for an NFT. Through the blockchain service Ulvio starting July 18th. That's coming up. Yes, it is. Three days from now. It's out of recording. Earlier when it comes out.
Starting point is 00:41:01 In several weeks time. If you listen to this late. It might be too late. I might have sold out several weeks' time. It'll be, if you listen to this late. It might be too late. Yeah, it might be too late. I might have sold out of all of them. Just to be clear, do not buy this. No, don't buy it. Anybody, not even as a joke.
Starting point is 00:41:12 No. Yeah. In a press release. What about a gag gift for someone else? No. Okay, Andrew. Do not encourage this kind of behavior. It's like giving a dog a treat for pissing on the carpet.
Starting point is 00:41:22 They should have tricked Sony into releasing a Morbius NFT. Two cinema releases then an NFT. That would have been great. In a press release, Warner Bros. Discovery explains that... We're desperate for money. We'll do anything. No, they've got plenty of money, Mason. But it explains that The Flash is a Web3
Starting point is 00:41:40 movie experience in a multimedia NFT allowing fans to own it and to engage in with the 2023 DC superhero film in an exciting way. Just wait for somebody to put it on Twitter for nothing. What does this mean though, Mason? It doesn't mean anything. It's an immersive web3 experience.
Starting point is 00:41:55 You can watch it in 4K, which you could do anyway. Yeah, if you bought the 4K. Access five digital locations that contain hidden augmented reality collectibles. Oh my god. Oh, my God. Wait, what does that mean? Does that mean you can go to a place in real life? I hope so. What if you don't live near that place?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Well, you have to. Oh, great. Maybe it's within the, like it comes up in the movie or whatever. Oh, great. I don't know. Great. None of this means anything. They probably haven't even figured it out yet.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Yeah, probably. They can build it after they sell it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll allow them to unlock it. Go to famous crime scene locations. That may or may not have anything to do with anyone in this movie. And we'll allow them to unlock exclusive content and behind-the-scenes footage.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Also feature a voucher for those that purchase the film. That used to just be on DVDs, behind-the-scenes stuff. You'd have to do an NFT treasure hunt. Nah, man, you're misremembering. This stuff always was hard and weird and expensive to get. Allowing them to redeem it for a DC3 Super Power Pack NFT from the DC NFT Marketplace. But outside of this NFT pack,
Starting point is 00:42:58 owners will obtain randomly selected key art featuring characters from the film that vary in levels of rarity. So it could be... Not rare it could be not rare at all. Or somewhat rare. Somewhat rare. Or just look at it on Twitter. People put all of them on Twitter. They'll just collate them.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I mean, this is a very obvious cash grab because this movie is making negative money. It's the worst. It's the biggest bomb ever, maybe. Biggest bomb ever, maybe. Wow. Love that. God.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Love it for this movie. Future generations of YouTubers or whatever YouTubers replaced by are going to be like, guys, you will never believe. You will never. Yeah. This is the biggest bomb ever made. And we'll be like, we lived it. We were there.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And they'll be like, shut up, old man, because we're there. Yeah. We're just there. This is three years from now. We were there. We were there. And they'll just be like, this was the biggest bomb ever made and no one remembers it.
Starting point is 00:43:47 It'll be like, yeah, great. It had Michael Keaton or whatever. We were there. Well, anyway, so that's a fucking awful thing to do. Yep. Did you see, this is almost entirely unrelated, but I thought it was interesting. Did you see they're doing Call of Duty plus the boys?
Starting point is 00:44:03 Did you see that? Like in the game? Yep. Do you shoot them? I'm not sure if they're, you can Duty plus the boys? Did you see that? Like in the game? Yep. Do you shoot them? I'm not sure if they're – you can look at it quickly on the YouTube. Have a quick look. Have a quick look, James. I don't want to watch it.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I just want to know what it is. Have a quick squiz. There are three characters. There are three of the boys' characters in the game. I'm not sure if you play as them or if they're like notable enemy characters or if they're like, you know, the hero characters like in the Star Wars where you burn points and then you can turn into them or whatever. But it's Homelander, Starlight, and Black Noir.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yeah. And you can also get like Temp V in the game that gives you superpowers. Okay. Just look at this. Yeah, you can shoot. They've got guns. They do have guns, which is interesting. Presumably you can play as them.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah. Yeah. These guys get it. Yeah. And I think they're being voiced by Anthony Starr, Aaron Moriarty, and nobody because Black Moth doesn't speak. Well, that's why you picked the third one, right? I picked the third one.
Starting point is 00:44:52 That's right. Think if this goes well, they'll have all of them? Maybe. Maybe with a timed release. Including the guy who climbs inside another guy's dick? Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Good stuff, Mason. Yeah. Wow. That's exciting. What an exciting time. Exciting times we live in, you know what I mean? To purchase absolute fucking dreck from psychopaths. Don't you reckon?
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yes, I agree. Has this gotten more cynical or has everything gotten worse? No, everything's great. Anyway, if everybody could sign up to BigSandwich.co. Hey, do you like dreck from psychos? Mason. Hello. Let's get positive.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Let's get positive Let's get positive Trailers ahoy We actually have trailers this week Three pretty big trailers Big trailers One of them for a movie That they haven't been promoting And now can't
Starting point is 00:45:33 And it's out in like a week It's called Blue Beetle That's right I think this looks pretty fun It does look pretty fun If you haven't seen the trailer yet The whole movie's in it though Yep
Starting point is 00:45:43 We know who the big bad guy is. He's fighting at the end with the final battles in it. Isn't the big bad guy just like a variation on him? In a way, it's a big red blue beetle. A big red blue beetle? Yep, that's right. A big red blue beetle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Oh, my God, that's what they say. Yeah. They're like, oh, my God, that's a big red blue beetle. Yeah, man. That's movies. They've got big guns, I think. Maybe they're bigger than your guns. This is the first movie in the DC.
Starting point is 00:46:05 When your guns are powered by family. Whoa. Are they spitting into the batteries? They are, yeah. George Lopez is spitting into the batteries. I think that's very cool. Yeah. Yeah, but look, I would say, yeah, don't watch this trailer.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yeah. But it does kind of, it's Spider-Man vibes, you know? Yeah, it looks fun. Look, the main guy looks very charming. I think that's a bit of fun. We get a little, some nods to the previous Blue Beetle. It's, a lot of this has taken place in Cord Industries, which is Ted Cord's company.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Ted Cord Industries. And we also see his old, his Beetle ship. Oh, do we? Yeah. I didn't watch it that close. It's quite prominent. Yeah. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yeah. In the trailer? Yeah. Not an NFT? No, it's a real trailer. Wow. I'll wait for the NFT. Great.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I think. Yeah, you don't want this trailer to spoil the NFT. Yeah, but this is, I think I saw a tweet from James Gunn that was like, somebody tweeted, hey, when's the Blue Beetle trailer coming? He's like, I'll look into it. Yeah. So, boy, this is coming out. I don't think it's a priority for him.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah, this is coming out very soon. Yeah. So what's that? What's the date? August, September? Let into it. Yeah. So, boy, this is coming out. I don't think it's a priority for him. Yeah, this is coming out very soon. Yeah. So what's that? What's the date? August, September? Let me check. Okay, if you wouldn't mind. Blue Beetle.
Starting point is 00:47:11 But as mentioned, if you're in this movie, you can. I'll promote August 17th. That's true. My God, yeah, that's like a month. Yeah. Well, good luck to this one. Good luck to the debut. Good luck to all movies out there.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I agree. We hope for the best of you. So, yeah, this is probably going to bomb. But, you know, you never know. Sometimes a good movie will just carry a movie. Yep. Sure, absolutely. And sometimes Dungeons and Dragons.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah. And sometimes a Hot Ones interview. Somebody's lying. Can't do that now. No, I can't do a Hot Ones. Unless they already recorded it, which is possible. Unless they already recorded it or they go on Hot Ones to not promote anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:42 You know? I'm just here to eat wings and shut my mouth. Let's talk about you, Sean. I won't be opening my mouth. I'll be sticking these wings up my nose. That's right. I don't want to get in trouble. Let's learn something about you, Sean.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I don't have anything to say. I actually don't have a personality. He seems nice. He seems very nice. I mean, because he's asking the questions. Yes. You know? And he's in it with them.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah. Because I'll often be like, are you dying? And he's like, I'm with you. Yeah. Me and you are the same. That's right. We're the questions. Yes. You know? And he's in it with them. Yeah. Because they'll often be like, are you dying? And he's like, I'm with you. Yeah. Me and you are the same. That's right. We're just jealous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Agreed. We're just a couple of jelly bellies, Mason. It's true. No, it is a good show. But every now and then they're like, look, it's Ted Donovan. I'm like, I don't know who this is. Like, it's super rap star. Ted Donovan?
Starting point is 00:48:21 Mitch Dick. Mitch Dick. I'm like, I don't know who that is either. Yeah. Yeah. I feel the same way have you ever seen Chicken Shop Date? which is Amelia de Moldenberg's interview show and she's great but I don't know anybody on that show
Starting point is 00:48:33 I'll know one in like 20 otherwise it's like British Grime rappers I don't know who any of these people are I don't know, this is probably very funny if you know any of these people look at the Andrew Garfield interactions. Yeah. He hasn't done a chicken chop.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I don't think he has, no. We also got a trailer for Ahsoka. That's true. We find more about the Thrawniverse. Oh, she did one with Jennifer Lawrence. I know who Jennifer Lawrence is. I think I watched that one, actually. She's done one with the Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Oh, which ones? All three Jonas Brothers. That's too many. One of them needs to go. I don't care which one. Just get rid of one of them. Go on, sorry. That's too many. One of them needs to go. I don't care which one. Just get rid of one of them. Go on, sorry. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Lewis Capaldi. I'm aware of who that is, but I don't really know what his deal is. Yep. He's like, I'm normal in things. I've always been normal around. Okay, look. Then it's a group called Flow. I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Shania Twain. We're very well aware of her. And then a guy called Central Sea, who was definitely a British crime rapper. Oh, look at him. And, you know, and so forth. Yeah. Yeah, great stuff. Great stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Ah, Ahsoka trailer. Did you watch that? No. Bewell Thrawn's back and whatever, et cetera. Oh, and we see the shot of Thrawn. I've seen the shot of Thrawn, yeah. Sabine and et cetera. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:40 I'm looking forward to this. Oh, yeah, great. Just because hopefully it'll be set five years after Return of the Jedi. Oh, that's the perfect time to set a Star Wars, I think. I agree. It's actually the only time unless you're setting it around the original movie. Yeah, nice. Yeah, but no other times.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I don't want to see a movie in any other direction. God damn it. What about a movie? No. A Star Wars movie. Yeah. Set in the 90s. In the 90s?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slap bands, hyper color. So like, what's that? Like 13 years after the original Star Wars? Yeah. This is a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, the 90 Slap bands, hyper-color. So, like, what's that? Like 13 years after the original Star Wars? This is a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, the 90s. No, 1977. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Let's go to the 90s. Yeah, I would love that. Yeah, yeah. God. Hey, Ahsoka, what's going on? We're going to see the original Mortal Kombat cinemas. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Okay. So it's the mid-90s, is it? Yep. All right. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. We also got a trailer from director Paul King,
Starting point is 00:50:27 director of two Paddington movies, which are just an absolute delight, for Wonka. Jonka. Jonka. We've been calling it Jonka because we were under the assumption it was going to be a dark, twisted tale of the origins of one Mr. Wilhelm Wonka. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:41 But I don't think it is. No. I think maybe originally that was the plan, which is why you get Chalamet. Yeah. And then you change the vibe and then he's woefully miscast in this. Yeah. Look. And it looks bad.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I love this director. Uh-huh. And I actually see everything in this trailer other than him. They're kind of delightful. You're right. Hugh Grant, little Hugh Grant. Okay, that's fun. Got a little flute.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Classic stuff. He saw in Dungeons and Dragons, he saw Bradley Cooper being little and he's like, I want to be little also. Can you do that for me? I love that Hugh Grant's just doing literally just anything or just weird stuff. He was in Paddington too.
Starting point is 00:51:18 He was a villain in that. That's true, yeah. But, yeah, we were talking about this before the show. We actually did a full hour. That's right. Which is exclusive to us. That's right. You cannot get full hour. That's right. Which is exclusive to us. That's right. You cannot get that content.
Starting point is 00:51:27 That's right. We paid each other nine US dollars. Where he doesn't have the whimsy of a Gene Hackman. Not Gene Hackman. Oh, Gene Hackman. Yeah, does not have a whimsy. Gene Wilder by like a long way. He wouldn't say any of the words Gene Hackman would say in the French connection.
Starting point is 00:51:42 No. And good. Yeah, I agree. But it just, there's, that is such a performance. Yeah. And I recently rewatched it with my son who loved it, thought it was incredible. And just none of that is here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Like all the whimsy when he does that thing where he's like, I'll flip it another way or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like, are you reading that? Like, what is this? Yeah, look, and again, there's no way for me to prove this. I like it, Charlemagne. I think he's good.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I think he's great in Dune. Apparently he's good in that. Is he in a cannibal movie that he's good in? He's in Call Me By Your Name or whatever with Armie Hammer. Okay, but he's also in a cannibal movie. Okay. Well, then he's in two cannibal movies. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I didn't even think of that. But look, there's no way for me to prove this, but I think initially the movie was going to have a certain vibe and they hired Timothee Chalamet based on that vibe of like sort of sinister. Like a return to Oz kind of thing? Yeah, return to Oz, like, yeah, something like that. Yeah. And then they changed the vibe because they're like,
Starting point is 00:52:39 well, we've got to make this a four-quarter movie for all the demographics and all the kids and it's going to be fantastic. All the charlatans. All the charlatans. Oh. New York Charlemagne's? All the Charlemagne's.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Exactly. Whatever. Whatever. This is free. Whatever. I can say it to you. That's right. Can't stop us.
Starting point is 00:52:59 We'll never be censored. We'll say stupid things. You can't stop us. No one would want to. And they hide him because they're like, we'll make it weird and sinister. But then they're like, yeah, we've got to make it uplifting and et cetera and it's going to be a beautiful kids' movie
Starting point is 00:53:12 or whatever. And then they change the vibe, which resulted in him being in a movie with a vibe that he's not suited to. You think they're going to like Edward Scissorhands him a bit? Yeah. You know the bit in the original movie where they go in under the boat and they go on the boat and they cut their head off a chicken yes that's right love it yeah yeah and it's all weird and sinister i'm like well it
Starting point is 00:53:35 seems like it's going to be a whole movie of that yeah it's not it's they've they've brought out who wants to make chocolate yeah i love chocolate yeah chocolate. Yeah. I mean, imagine the movie Cruella, which was a prequel to 101 Dalmatians, but bad. Like the movie Cruella. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not that bad, that movie. It was actually, that's some fun moments. Like when the dogs killed that woman.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Do you remember that? No, I didn't see it. Oh, no, I have seen the clip, but they pushed her over there. You were probably too busy watching Pinocchio. I was too busy watching Red. The Tom Hanks version. I hated that, but also I'm too busy watching Red Notice. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:07 So you might want to know, how did Timothee Chalamet audition for this? He didn't. Well, here we go. It was a straight offer because he's great, this is the director, and he's the only person in mind who could do it. But because he's Timothee Chalamet and his life is so absurd, his high school musical performances are on YouTube and have hundreds of thousands of views.
Starting point is 00:54:24 So I knew from standing for Timothee Chalamet that he could sing and dance really well. This is also a musical, I forgot. Yeah, so I think also, let's wait. Let's see. It's the Paddington guy. And he's... And Paddingtons are the best. Do you agree? They're good.
Starting point is 00:54:39 They're certainly good. Come on, man! People love those movies. And if you say they're bad, someone will kill you. Is that what you want? No. You prefer that? Okay. So here's a tweet from Alex Friedman.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Unfamiliar with them. Yes. But she has said, apropos of nothing, some weirdos I think could have done a great wonker. Here we go. And we've got Daniel Radcliffe. I agree. He's weird. Nicholas Holt.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Yep. Agreed. Charlie Day. 100%. And I don Holtz. Yep, agreed. Charlie Day. 100%. And I don't know who this last guy is, but. That's Dylan fucking. Moran. Yeah, Dylan Moran.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Wow. No, is it? I don't know. What's his name? I don't know who that goes. He's in the Scorch Trials and whatever. Oh, okay, right. But I think that would.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I love the fact. Dylan O'Brien. Dylan O'Brien. I like Dylan O'Brien. Right, right, right. But we haven't seen it yet. YeahBrien. But we haven't seen it yet. Yeah. Well, we haven't seen it yet.
Starting point is 00:55:27 But I think Daniel Radcliffe would be good because he's got the – He does weird stuff. He does weird and whimsy and – Isn't that show that's like Soulmates or not Soulmates. It's something where he's on different time periods and – Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Nicholas Hull will be good. I think Charlie Day is –
Starting point is 00:55:41 Probably doesn't suit – he's older than gene wilder was with gene wilder yeah so you can't yeah i don't know 100 uh buy that one and he'd be a good umpah lumpah and i think yeah i think he's too weird yeah i think you need to be like weird and handsome and yeah and you're gonna be able to do a forward roll you have to do i'd be able to do a four roll how many forward rolls i think he's too inside like it's yeah he's too intense but i think the other i think nicholas holt and daniel radcliffe would have been yeah there to do a four-roll. How many four-rolls? I think he's too intense. But I think Nicholas Hoult and Daniel Radcliffe would have been great. Yeah, there is like a reservedness to Gene Wilder when he needs to. God, he's fucking funny in that movie.
Starting point is 00:56:15 He's really good. Yeah. There we go. Anyway, looks bad, but I guess we'll see it. Jonker. Jonker. I don't think it's – it doesn't feel like Jonker anymore. No.
Starting point is 00:56:27 It's Wangtastic Beasts. Okay. Wongtastic Beasts? What are we doing? Fantastic Beasts. It feels like a Fantastic Beasts movie, but Wong. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Fantastic Wong?
Starting point is 00:56:36 Fantastic Wong. Sure. Wong – no, I think it should be Wongtastic Beasts. Wongtastic Beasts. But that would imply Wong is in it and he's not. It's confusing. Yeah. So we'll keep it.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Now, Mason, last bit of news we've just got to talk about is next week at cinemas, Barbie and Opperheimer are going head to head. Opperheimer, we're calling it? What did you say? You said Opperheimer. I never said anything. And I reset the accusation.
Starting point is 00:57:02 And people say, what do you see first? Do you even see both? But I like that these are coming together as a double bill. You want to see some people get obliterated by a nuclear explosion in a real-world event. And then Oppenheimer. We did it. He's done the joke.
Starting point is 00:57:18 We did it. He's done the joke. He flipped it. He flipped it. Now, I read this week, and this makes a lot of sense, that Christopher Nolan is not happy about this double bill because Warner Brothers has done this because they don't like him anymore and they're like.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah. But it feels more like counter-programming to me. Wasn't he also like, I like that cinema's coming back? Probably. People are like, maybe two movies. Yeah, maybe two movies. Now, what are you going to see first? That's the big discussion point.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Look, well, I'm probably – I'm not going to see one over the other first stylistically or for vibes reasons. For tax reasons. For tax reasons. It's probably going to be like whatever is available first at my local cinema. Like if there's a midnight screening of Barbie first or Oppenheimer first, I'm like, well, I'll do that one the night before and then I'll see. Because we've got to see both of them before next week.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I would love to be able to see Oppenheimer first and then Barbie. Explain your reasoning, James. I just think Barbie would be a nice thing to watch after Oppenheimer. Right, right, right. But I don't think I can actually see it that way. Just looking at the session times and how my week's planning out and everything, I might have to do it the other way. That's so true.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I don't care. As long as I get to see two great movies, which everybody is saying these are, Mason. That's true. Woo! Woo is correct, my friend. Quick update, James. Go on.
Starting point is 00:58:36 There is an advanced screening of Barbie on Wednesday night. They're doing girls' nights, I saw. Flicks with the chicks. Yeah, man. So I might pop to that session early, and then I'm going to see Oppenheimer and be massivelyicks with the chicks. Yeah, man. So I might pop to that session early and then I'm going to see Oppenheimer and be massively depressed on the Thursday. Interesting
Starting point is 00:58:49 choice. Wonderful, yeah. Of movies. Cute. I literally have no choice. I must see them both. If you see both movies can I then see neither movie? I guess. And I'll just recount the plots to you. We both have different perspectives. Oh, that's true actually. It's cheaper for me too. I don't want to pay for tickets for all of my family to see Oppenheimer.
Starting point is 00:59:10 My three-year-old daughter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And your wife will be like, who's that? You'll be like, I don't know yet either. It's probably President Truman or something. I don't know yet. I have the same information you do.
Starting point is 00:59:24 We've both gone to this movie anyway. It's probably Einstein. Look, I know it looks weird. It looks weird in the trailer. It looks weird in the movie. Yeah. You seen that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:33 It looks like a sketch. Yeah. Maybe that's what he looked like though. I don't know. You know? I don't know if I've met him. I don't even think he's that smart. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:59:45 The tone of you always suggests you have met him and he was way smarter than you and you're covering. No. No. No. Okay. Just no. Okay, I believe you.
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Starting point is 01:01:01 Pow! The budget of this movie was close to $290 million. That's very expensive. That's right. Well, they're doing big stunts for real, and this shot during COVID. It was one of the few productions which did not slow down, and maybe everybody got COVID on a boat or something at one point. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 01:01:16 No, boat fit. That's the worst kind you can get. Something happened. I don't remember. It was a million years ago. This was filmed mostly a long time ago. Wow. Well, you can tell because Tom Cruise on the campaign trail has had time to regrow his hair.
Starting point is 01:01:27 He looks completely different. And weird. What do you think? Yeah, his hair's weird. Is it because you've learnt his 61 recently and now you're like that's put his whole, his entire being into a different perspective? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:40 There's some things at odds there, you know? Okay, all right. I don't know. Anyway, good luck to him. He's got a bright future, that kid. So that's a lot of money. Yeah. For a movie that's not doing this well, potentially an obvious nightmare,
Starting point is 01:01:54 which we've recently seen. But the box office five-day weekend for this in the US is $78 million, obviously less for just the two-day weekend, which is pretty good. It's probably more, though, and it's going to make about, I reckon, I think it was $250 million worldwide in the first weekend. Well, it's nearly covered some of it minus marketing costs. This looks to be the biggest opening for any Mission Impossible movie, which is not a surprise considering the absolute fervor
Starting point is 01:02:20 which is happening and the amount of press that Tom Cruise squeezed out before the actor's strike ended up happening. He had to go back in the locker that he lives. That's right. Whatever. Now let me ask you this. Do you think – He lives in the locker from the Men in Black 2 train station.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Oh, it's got a whole universe in it. Yeah, the weird alien locker. I don't know. It sounds a bit like a 15-minute city to me. It's got a whole universe within walking distance. I don't know about that. It's a bit like a 15-minute city to me. It's got a whole universe within walking distance.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I don't know about that. Do you think like Maverick, good word of mouth, will cause a sales spike in this? Yeah, I think this could carry it further. Also, there's not really a – well, there are big movies like this, but Oppenheimer is not an action movie. That's true. And Barbie is like appealing to a different audience.
Starting point is 01:03:05 So I think that of the action blockbusters of the summer, so it's like this and The Flash and Indiana Jones, I think this one has the potential to carry longer. Exactly. This one has a string of hits in the past. It's also got a string of hits in recent memory. So people remember the last one and are enjoying the last one, unlike an Indiana Jones, for example.
Starting point is 01:03:25 It's not tied to a dead universe. True the dark universe the dark universe yeah dodged a bullet there absolutely so uh and also it's pretty good it's pretty good i'll say very good but before we get to that what do you think the story was oh come on mate yeah how much can i reveal in this i wonder i would say um let's like they'll do light spoilers but we're gonna have to say certain things in terms of what they're after and what's after them. Yeah. But if you don't want to know anything, maybe just skip this whole thing, I would say.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Well, let me tell you this. Ethan Hunt, he loves doing a Mission Impossible. How many times has he done it? I mean. On camera? This is the seventh.
Starting point is 01:04:00 This is the seventh, I guess. But I guess sometimes he's done multiple ones. Yeah, yeah. I would consider some of his impossible missions like sub-missions as well. Ooh. We also find out whether or not he can choose to do them or not. That's true. Apparently they answer to the president.
Starting point is 01:04:13 They don't know. I don't think they know. I don't think anybody knows. I think they answer to the president. There's some retconning in this movie, I feel. Absolutely there is. The background of some of the characters and how the IMF works and so forth.
Starting point is 01:04:28 But anyway, Tom Cruise is a big Mission Impossible guy, but then he's got to do this mission. Let's say big in spirit. Oh, yeah. If not stature. Yeah, he's a regular-sized Mission Impossible guy. Yeah, okay, sure. But there's a threat out there.
Starting point is 01:04:42 What is it? I'm not going to tell you. Yeah, you should have watched the movie. You said you were going to watch the movie. Did you, James? Did you watch the movie? I was joking when I said I was going to watch it. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah. Anyway, but there's a new threat on the horizon and it's going to bloody, it's going to bloody, it's going to re- It's going to put all these skills to the test. It's going to put all these skills to the test. It's a Mission Impossible movie. And all of these mates' skills to the test. All these mates are there.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah. You know? Benji. Yep. Luther. Lassie. Lassie. Doug.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Doug's there. The nostalgia critic? Yeah, on the animated cartoon, Doug. I was thinking. Oh, okay, right. Yeah, sure. Both. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yeah, the twins. We need the Dougs. In an espionage movie, there's all kinds of characters called the twins. In this case, it's the two ducks. Now, before we get into like- Anyway, was that a good summary of the plot? I think it was great. I think there's going to be like levels of spoilers
Starting point is 01:05:33 because we also have to give spoilers for what the villains are. Who the villains are, James. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I think maybe there's like three levels to this, but I just want to talk about the original opening scene for this and what there was going to be was a 25 minute cold opening set in 1989 now we catch glimpses of that
Starting point is 01:05:52 in this movie, my understanding of Ethan Hunt was I always assumed he came straight from the military and that's why he's got the haircut and they might have even said that in the movie I don't remember I watched it like three years ago or whatever. But Christopher McQuarrie came out with a quote about
Starting point is 01:06:07 doing a de-aging 25-minute sequence. Right. And this is very interesting, especially when you compare it to a movie which did this last week. Yeah. Did a lot of this stuff. Like there's a train chase. There was a train chase last week. Absolutely. Now let me ask you this, James. Is this, did they film this? Mostly. And snippet it.
Starting point is 01:06:24 So there is, so 25 minutes of it doesn't exist somewhere. I think some of it because he said, never did I find myself actually following the story. I was so distracted by an actor that I had known for however long who was now suddenly this young person. Right. And I found that looking at Harrison Ford, my whole time I was looking at it,
Starting point is 01:06:40 I found it really hard to focus on the scenes and what was happening because I'm just looking at his face the whole time. And you're like, he looks young, not quite how he looked. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Okay. I think the way you have to do it is you have them speak less, you do it in shadows and that's, and because he talks about how we would have potentially done it, but ultimately found it distracting and took it out. And I think that shows incredible restraint to do that. Cause that's 25, a 25 minute de--aging sequence cold open.
Starting point is 01:07:08 How many millions of dollars is that? And he went, no. Yeah, and again, maybe they did it or some of it, some tests at the very least. It seems like they did. But during this movie, Mason, the myth of Ethan Hunt grows. Now, I find Tom Cruise's redemption arc fascinating. Okay. This is not an Ethan Hunt thing. This is Tom Cruise's redemption arc fascinating. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:25 It's something that people- This is not an Ethan Hunt thing. This is Tom Cruise, the celebrity. Just the idea that like there was a time when people were like, what a weird freak. What is he up to? Why is he jumping on those couches? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Why is he shooting lighting bolts out of his hands? Like his relationships are all weird and have all this- What does Oprah think of this? Yeah, like shrouded in like weird mysteries. And if you look into like the divorces that he's had, in particular the one with the Katie Holmes and all that, I don't want to get into the specifics of it, but how did they go? And all the Scientology shit, not to mention, I mean,
Starting point is 01:07:55 it's all tied in and whatever. But like it's completely come around to like, yeah, he's real weird, but that's what we love about him now because he's trying to kill himself for us. Is that where we're at? Yeah, I guess so. Look, as someone who, like, you look at his history and go, weird, don't like that, what a very compelling person who makes movies and is in movies, you know?
Starting point is 01:08:16 Absolutely right. I mean, he's turned us all round for the most part, I feel like. Do you have any thoughts on that or is that just? No, I mean, you know, and I also think that's probably a very deliberate PR choice because he doesn't. He doesn't talk about it. No.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I don't even remember him ever talking about it really. But, I mean, I think especially now they've probably said, like, don't talk about it. Just be the guy who loves movies. Yeah. And makes movies and be compelling and give the audience what they want. Exactly. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:08:49 I think if there is a strategy, if there is any kind of religion-based strategy to this, it might just be like be compelling and charismatic and have people find their own way to it. Yeah. I think you're right. I think you're absolutely right. And I have. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:04 You're back. I'm a pastafarian. And I have. Yeah. You're back. I'm a pastor-farian now. Absolutely. I'm a guy with a colander on my head. Did you not notice it earlier? No, I noticed it. Okay. I just think it's really cool.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Thanks, man. But I didn't want to draw attention to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So we talked about how I read the headliner review last week where in this movie Tom Cruise fights God. It's interesting because he metaphorically does that in a very literal sense.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Sure. Absolutely. Should we do some spoilers of what the villain is? Yes. It's big time spoiler time, folks. Just in general or just the villain? Because I think there's further spoilers we can spoil. Yeah, just, no, okay, it's just the villain.
Starting point is 01:09:37 We're talking, I mean, there is a human villain from Ethan Hunt's past. Yeah. Who is not from a previous movie. He is a new, he's been retconned in. Yes. He would have been in that. You do see some of that flashback in 89 and he's in it.
Starting point is 01:09:54 He is part of Ethan Hunt's pre-IMF past. Yes. When Ethan Hunt was in his grub era. That's exactly right. Running through the sewer, licking the walls. Because we all assumed that he went crew cut and then MI2 hair. Yeah. But it seems like he had MI2 hair, then the crew cut,
Starting point is 01:10:12 then MI2 hair again. He was getting in line. Exactly. But anyway, this has been in most reviews. I think so, yeah. This villain, this human villain, I guess by saying human villain, I've really spoiled. It's not a dog.
Starting point is 01:10:29 It's a walrus. This villain is doing the bidding of an AI that's become sentient. Yes. And is engineering various espionage acts around the world for its own ends. I thought it was really interesting that it started in like social media and changing the news slightly and it would like influence political events just a little bit and whatever and then how it built from there. I just thought that was a really interesting way to look at AI in a movie
Starting point is 01:11:00 because I know that Vin Diesel was talking about doing AI for the next Fast X movies. Right. And somebody actually sent this headline to us, and I think it's quite fascinating. Oh, and speaking of a movie that does something that another movie did recently but way better. Car Chase. Car Chase in Italy, yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:20 So this is from Fabberg Z, who says, I thought you might appreciate this pull quote. It's from the Sunny Birch Review who says, imagine the Fast and Furious series but good, headlined by a genuine star featuring coherently shot set pieces and looking like they exist in something like the real world instead of a CGI composited bag of garbage. But also there's a lot of CGI in these movies. Yeah. There just has to be for it to exist in the way that it does but because so much of it is real and so much of the promo is built around that it's
Starting point is 01:11:53 like when they talk about top gun maverick they were like this is all real planes it is absolutely not that's that movie is like 70 cgi like the action sequences but you know that's visual effects visual effects i should effects, I should say. Because I believe Nolan quite recently said there's no CGI in Oppenheim. Yeah. And he's right because there's no fully created digital world. Yes. We're just looking at like the screen of a video game.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Yeah. But there is plenty of scenes that have a physical real world basis and then they put digital effects on top of that, which is visual effects. Then you've got Jar Jar Binks waving. jar jar binks is there and he's like miss misa become death destroyer of worlds he said you know yeah i am so the only man who could stop the ai seemingly and the ai knows this they call it the entity is tom cruise because it seems like the ai has figured out that everybody has a pattern and a weak point and something you can push somebody on or break them or manipulate them.
Starting point is 01:12:47 And Ethan's his friendship. Yeah, but he also- And that ankle he broke during call-out. An ankle he broke. But also, Ethan Hunt seemingly cannot be predicted, and he streaks out- Because he's the living manifestation of destiny. What's the quote?
Starting point is 01:13:01 There was a quote. I even wrote it down in the movies. I don't like to pull my phone out in the movies so you said sorry everyone i'm writing this down in the movies to write this down because i think it's important for my podcast that's what i said yeah can i find this note oh which reminds me before you get to that so so the villain gabriel yeah so it's it's it's getting quite biblical in here uh if that's isai morales who people might know as deathstroke from titans oh yeah but he's great yeah i Deathstroke from Titans. Oh, yeah. But he's great. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:13:25 He's really good at this. And also very, very sinister in that kind of – he's got an evil glint to his eye because of this character. In addition to serving this – he's serving this AI villain because he likes suffering in the world. And he thinks that this AI is going to bring that to the people who deserve it or have you. And also, what a wonderful autumnal colour palette this guy is working with. Absolutely. He's wearing his suede jackets and he's wearing cranberry and sandalwood and all sorts of colours.
Starting point is 01:13:56 He's looking amazing. How is he pulling this off? I don't know, but he's the best-dressed villain I think that Mission Impossible has ever had. I don't disagree with that. Name a better one. Philip Seymour Hoffman? No.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I love Philip Seymour Hoffman. You would. But these don't compare. So, oh, I just put my phone away. I just found the quote. Oh, yeah? He's referred to as, because at the start, Ethan Hunt's gone rogue.
Starting point is 01:14:14 You're not going to believe it. And he's referred to as, and the government, they're telling a big government guy about the impossible mission force. They're telling Mr. Cary Elwes. And Rob, what's his name? Thomas. No. From Matchbox 20. No, he's from. Friend of Santana. No, he's in Mission Force. Telling Mr. Cary Elwes. And Rob, what's his name? Thomas. No. From Matchbox 20.
Starting point is 01:14:26 No, he's from. Friend of Santana. No, he's in Mission Impossible. No, not Mission Impossible. He's in Deadpool 2. Rob Corddry. Yes. No.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Rob. Dang it. He's also in Hobbs and Shaw. He's big on Twitter. There's two Fast and Furious alumni in it. Rob Delaney. Rob Delaney. And it's also one of the guys chasing him.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Shea Whigham. Yeah, is from. We'll talk about him later. Fast 2 or 1. I don't know. Anyways, they're explaining to some government bigwig the deal with Ethan Hunt, and he's described as a mind-reading, shape-shifting agent of chaos. There it is.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Yeah. Supporting cast. As you mentioned, though, Rob Delaney's in this for a scene. Carrie Elwes is the. Love that. He's the director of national intelligence. Pom Clemente is the Joker. Yep.
Starting point is 01:15:04 That's right. in this movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if you've noticed. Vanessa Kirby and Rebecca Ferguson are back. And, of course, we get the debut of Hayley Atwell. Yes. And she's great. I really like her in this as well.
Starting point is 01:15:16 She's like a professional globetrotting thief who steals big stuff for clients, who jumps in on this and is sort of immediately in over a head which i think is great i like the i like the idea behind like she knows what she's doing and she brings a new set of skills but not what he does and but but there's a whole nother level i like the idea that we're we're bringing in like a more of a civilian yeah you know what i mean to observe this stuff and be like oh this actually is crazy i thought initially it was going to be because the entity is like, is manipulating everything all the time. So when he comes across her initially,
Starting point is 01:15:49 I thought it was going to be that she was just a normal person and the entity just made him think that she was this other person. But I like the idea that she's got all these pickpocketing skills and whatever. I would say this though, Mason, there is some weird stuff in these movies when you look back in relation to women in this and the relationships that Tom Cruise has with them within the movie, the Ethan Hunt character, and the promises that he makes to love and protect them while simultaneously in the real world and in movies often churning through these characters and actors. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:18 And there's some parallel that to be made with Tom Cruise's real life as well. Yeah, yeah. Is this an accident? I mean, like it's not an intentionally thing like to draw attention to it's an accident i i imagine part of it could be because he's like i'm the best that i'll protect you but i can't protect you yeah but i also think it's probably just there there must be an element i think of just hollywood's the hollywood machine like if you're a tom cruise a Tom Cruise, you can be in a movie franchise
Starting point is 01:16:46 for 20 years, but if you're a woman in Hollywood, you've only got a couple of years in you before Hollywood's like, oh, 29, too old kind of thing. You know, because we had a manual bout in one. Too old for 61-year-old Tom Cruise. Well, exactly. And she would be, you remember? Yeah, I remember.
Starting point is 01:17:04 She's in the first one and she would be like just a few years younger than Tom Cruise. Yeah. And then Tandy Newton in two. Yep. And then who's in three? Oh, it's. She actually came back.
Starting point is 01:17:15 She did come back, yes. But then who's Paul Patton? Paul Patton didn't come back. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, but I. She's 59, yeah. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I think to the franchise's credit at this point. Emmanuel Barrett is 59, yeah. Here's the thing. I think to this franchise's credit at this point. Emmanuel Barrett is 59, yeah. I think to this franchise's credit, we have kept Rebecca Ferguson and Vanessa Kirby for a couple of movies. Yes. And they haven't discarded them already. Yeah. You know, they've.
Starting point is 01:17:39 But you're saying they should. Yes, absolutely. I don't know. How do you feel about the religious metaphors and allegories in this? It's interesting. It's very interesting. What I think is the most interesting about this is the – Is it supposed to be a false god or is this the Christian god?
Starting point is 01:17:59 Like what does it represent here? Because the entity – and there's two words you're going to hear a lot. Three words, I guess. The entity and the there's two words you're going to hear a lot, three words, I guess, the entity and the key, four words, I guess. Those two of those words are the same word. I think that the entity is a metaphor for AI in Hollywood. I think it's God. Oh, you think it actually is God? Because if the key that you use to- Because it looks like a crucifix. It's a crucifix. As you mentioned, Gabriel, who was a soldier of God. and the idea that tom cruise is this unstoppable force that god fears i think that is also yeah but i think i think this is that's also what i like
Starting point is 01:18:34 about it's like what is this it's it's very metal gear solid the franchise has become metal gear solid a little bit it's a little bit weirdly supernatural now um yeah like i said the vibes in this movie are kind of insane a little bit yeah um i think this is a metaphor and i think the ai is because it's it's a being that wants to put the imf team out of work essentially yeah maybe by destroying the world but maybe by making them obsolete yes but tom cruise doesn't want that to happen yeah he wants to keep working that's right and so they so they've got to – they're going to – the end – without spoiling anything, I think the next one they're going to prove that AI isn't good enough. And it's just – I mean, obviously they're going to defeat.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, you know, it's going to be about how the human spirit and collaboration and friendship works together and is more powerful than a being that is just churning through probabilities or a bomb or big bomb a big nuclear bomb that isn't or a movie that bombs or a movie that bombs what i think is great about all of that stuff and all the things that like i read into these movies and like the actor in real life and the storylines and and what what this means and whatever most movies are just like and then this this, this, this, and this. Yeah. Whereas here I'm walking away, I'm like, what the fuck was that about?
Starting point is 01:19:47 Right. And not in a way that's like, I don't know, not in a way that's, you know, that's like that was confusing. It's something to chew on. Yeah, it's something to chew on. It's something to your brain to chew on after you've left where a lot of, you know, we have, I had fun with the movie Black Adam, but I haven't thought about it since.
Starting point is 01:20:01 I think about it every day. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, and you're like, God, this is quite meaningful. I was going to say there's a lot of, I feel like there's a lot of what I would, what I think is deliberate throwbacks to the first mission if possible in this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:18 I mean, there's characters. There's, Kittredge is back. Kittredge is back. Apparently, according to Macquarie, because there's also like, there is the scene with Kittredge is back. Kittredge is back. Apparently, according to McQuarrie, because there's also like – there is the scene with Kittredge and Hunt. They're also on a train. They're on a train and there's a bunch of Dutch angles and all this sort of stuff, which was like very Brian De Palma
Starting point is 01:20:35 in the first movie. But apparently, according to Christopher McQuarrie, none of it was like purposeful throwback. It was like what fitted in the moment, in the scene. Like whatever angle worked best for the scene, that's what we put in kind of thing. But I feel like a lot of this, like he's got his Mission Impossible one hair back.
Starting point is 01:20:52 He does, yeah. Not entirely, but it's the closest you could get. It's shorter. No, it's short, I'm saying. It's short, yeah, but it's not as short as he, because I don't think a man of Tom Cruise's age now could do the crew cut. He's also wigged up for some of this.
Starting point is 01:21:05 I think it's reshoots and also some stunt work. I mean, if we can divert again. Yeah. Speaking of wigs. Yeah. It's the summer of Shea, as far as I'm concerned. Summer of Shea? Shea Wiggum.
Starting point is 01:21:16 What are we talking about? What is this? All the winter of Wiggum. Shea Wiggum, the guy, one of the agents who's chasing him. Oh, yeah, Shea Wiggum. Right, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Incredible hair on this guy. How does he do it? I don't know, but I'm loving it. What's his secret? I don't know, but I saw his character poster some weeks ago, and I'm like, that's unbelievable hair. But in motion. 54 years old.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Normally, I would say normally when we get to the Weekly Planet Awards at the end of the year, the awards that mean nothing and nobody cares about. That's not true. No, it's true. Tom Cruise would almost certainly get a nomination for best hair or wig. Not this year. I think Shea Whigham's getting the nod.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I agree. So he's in Fast and Furious 4 and 6. He's also Captain Stacey in Across the Spider-Verse. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's the summer of Shea is what I'm saying. I'm glad he's doing it. Yeah, me too. Movies.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Movies. That's a good movie, that Spider-Verse movie. I agree.. I'm glad he's doing it. Yeah, me too. Movies. Movies. That's a good movie, that Spider-Verse movie. I agree. A lot of people don't think that. Is that true? No. What are we talking about? I've lost the thread.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Here. I derailed the thread. That's okay. Well, speaking of derailing, let's talk about stunts. Okay. So the big one, which I wasn't that impressed because I'd seen it a million times, was the big jump on the bike. Yes. I mean, that is objectively spectacular,
Starting point is 01:22:27 and he did it for real and all of those things. Yes. But, like, by the time I saw that, I had seen that 150 times already. But there's other things in this. Yeah. Here's a stray thought. I was going to bring it up later, but I know I'll forget about it. This movie is also filmed on digital.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Yeah. None of the others are. No. Which is interesting why because i feel like digital video is the motion smoothing of cinema and i feel like tom cruise would be against it but this is on digital and you can tell i think like there's this there's there's a scene there's a fight on the top of the train. Yeah. And I think it looks good and I'm sure they did a lot of it for real. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:07 But it's got the weird digital sheen over it. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I think a lot of the time with digital you genuinely can't tell, like if it's done properly. Right. But, no, I see what you're talking about, yeah. Yeah. But otherwise there is a scene you see in the trailer,
Starting point is 01:23:22 there's a scene with Hayley Atwell and Ethan Hunt. Yeah. Character and actor. Yes. On a train. It's kind of a chase within the train. Very intense. Very intense.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I agree. And, of course, there's a scene quite early on in an airport. Yeah. And I loved it. And there's also a really fun car chase. Yes. They're in the street. In a tiny little theater.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Yes. Which I loved. And he's doing it one-handed. And they're back and forth in that, and there's a little joke, and he's like, hang on, I just need a minute to adjust to this car, because all the tech's different. There's little bits of humor
Starting point is 01:23:56 in this. I was going to say, so if you recall Mission Impossible Fallout, I don't know what you do, there's a scene where Ethan has to get the remote trigger and get the fuse out of it while Benji and Luther have to defuse separate bombs and everything's happening at once and it's very exciting.
Starting point is 01:24:14 I felt like similar vibes with the airport situation. Yes. And there's so much going on. They've gone, okay, well, how can we top that? How can we top that right out of the gate? You know, the very intense scene at the end of the last one, how can we make it even bigger for the start of the new one? And it's Ethan and Benji and Luther, and they're all working together,
Starting point is 01:24:34 and there's even more layers going on. Yeah, absolutely. I have some questions about it, which we'll talk about in spoilers, I think. We'll talk about it, yeah. Should we get into some spoilers? Yes. Oh, just quickly, Sleight of Hand has returned. That's right.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Has returned. Again, back from Mission Impossible 1. I think this is easily the one that is most like the first movie. I think this also has something which all the other movies don't have except the first one, just that fucking bug-eyed paranoia. Yeah. And not in the same sense because that movie is people are just staring and sweating at each other.
Starting point is 01:25:02 It's true, yeah. There's a real weird intensity to that movie, which I love first one and this has a weird intensity it does and i think i think it is that entity thing where it could be anybody or see you at any time yeah right or what i also thought and again i'm not i'm not looking with these movies they are they're fun there is a lot of sincerity to them yeah and i'm not looking for marvel like quips and so on and so forth but everybody really just accepts the entity at face value. Yes. Do you notice?
Starting point is 01:25:30 Nobody's ever like, are you sure though? I'm going to go with it. I think if you were like, hey, there's an AI in my computer and it's sending me Goatsey and so forth, I'd be like, are you sure? No, that's me. That's me, Nick Mason. I'd be like, are you sure or is it just a guy messing with you? Yeah Nick Mason. I'd be like, are you sure? Or is it just a guy messing with you? Yeah, but also like I'm a guy.
Starting point is 01:25:48 I'm a normal person. Right. Like I, you know, these are the people at the top of their game. I guess that's true. They work in this industry. But I mean, nobody is like, are you sure it isn't a spy or something? Yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Yeah. You know? Well, it's not. I think it might be. Or it is. I think it might be a guy. Well, we'll talk about it. Should we talk about spoilers? Yes. I'm going to say best movie ever. I think it might be. Or it is. I think it might be a guy. Well, we'll talk about it. Should we talk about spoilers?
Starting point is 01:26:06 Yes. I'm going to say best movie ever. I'm also going to say best movie ever. Where would you rank this in terms of Mission Impossible movies generally? Bearing in mind we generally say Fallout is the top. Yep. And everything else is below. I think 1 and Fallout are my favorites.
Starting point is 01:26:20 And this is probably just below that. What about you? Yeah, okay. I think Fallout's probably more fun and the bombastic kind of nature of that I enjoy. That's got like a real smash and grab kind of feel to it, which I like. I think my top two are probably Fallout and then Ghost Protocol. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:39 I would probably put it. I think Ghost Protocol after the building kind of is whatever. Yeah, you're probably right. So that's why I put that a little bit lower. Yeah, yeah. But I do love Ghost Protocol after the building kind of is whatever. So that's why I put that a little bit lower. But I do love Ghost Protocol. I would say it's probably on par with 1. So I would say probably equal third-ish. Third or fourth, somewhere around that area, I reckon.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I also think 3 is very good. Oh, yes. And 2 is bad. Oh, wow. Where's 5? It's pretty good. Yeah, upon a rewatch, I enjoyed five a lot more than I thought I did. It's really nice.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Anyway, it's big time spoiler time. We're going to do all the big spoilers. So the big quest in this is, and they reiterated it 100 million times in this movie, so you don't miss out. Yep. If I was critical of this movie, would probably say uh more than any of the other ones it does feel like they're going the audience is kind of done we better we better reiterate this plot again but you're saying if you had a criticism i do but i have i don't have
Starting point is 01:27:35 this is no i don't have any criticisms but the plot is so the the the entity is spread itself all over the internet it cannot be stopped except its original source code, there's a remnant of it in a downed crashed submarine which is under some arctic ice and it can be activated with two pieces of a key which was originally for their silent running drive or their... Something like that. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:28:01 So if you get the two pieces of the key... It looks like a Jesus cross. It does look like a Jesus cross. I don't think that's an accident mason like one of those fast jesus x's yeah man um but if you get the two pieces of a key and if you make it to that location you could presumably you could you could access the original source code with the key and you could either control the entity or destroy it yeah so obviously or a different thing you know different things so every all the governments want to control it yeah and ethan's like well i'm going And you could either control the entity or destroy it. Yeah. So obviously. Or a different thing. A different thing. So all the governments want to control it.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Yeah. And Ethan's like, well, I'm going to go rogue. We're all going to go rogue. We're going to get that kid. We're going to destroy that entity. Yeah. Because it's AI and that's taking away writers' jobs. That's right. That's what he says.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Yeah. But you have a theory. Yes. That it's a third thing. I don't have a theory, but I have a wacky fan service. A wish. I have a wacky fan service. A wish. I have a wacky fan service request. I love this, by the way.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Oh, yes. I think there's a good chance this could be like a third thing could happen. Right. But I don't necessarily think it's going to. Anyway, go on. Okay, so I want, like because this one is deliberately or inadvertently a throwback to the first Mission Impossible movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And also I think it's odd that everybody, again, is taking it as given that this AI is this sentient being and it's operating under its own steam and it's decided to control the world or what have you. Yeah. I am hoping, but not really, but really, that it's going to be Emilio Estevez from Mission Impossible 1. And is he in the submarine?
Starting point is 01:29:21 He might be in the submarine. No, I don't think he's in the submarine. Do you think it's going to be like... This is my Emilio Requestavez. If Kristen McQuarrie is listening, if you could bring back Emilio Estevez. Do you think there's going to be like, Ethan's going to decode something
Starting point is 01:29:34 and it's going to say, Hasta lasagna, don't get any on you. And they're all just like, oh my God. Oh my God. Now look, this is a man who took an elevator to the face. Yeah, he really did.
Starting point is 01:29:44 He got the classic elevator spikes through the brain. So you think he survived this. Yes. And he's become like a Bond-like. Yes. Or even beyond that. Yes. But just a man with no, like his physical form is ruined.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Well, his face is ruined. His face is ruined. I think the rest of him's fine, but his face is messed up, man. And he's plugged into the internet and he's going. Not even. I think maybe he's just a the internet and he's going. Not even. I think maybe he's just a, or. He's just sitting at big monitors. Or, look, I would be happy with, look,
Starting point is 01:30:11 I'd be happy with a new thing that surprises me, if I'm honest, but I would also be happy with he is dead, but some code he wrote back in the 90s is the basis of this. Okay. And he's in it somehow. Well, that would, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if there is some kind of callback to that because there's a lot of callbacks in this 2-1 and the origins of Ekelhunt.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Ekelhunt? Fecalhunt. Oh, no. Ethan Hunt. But one thing that I thought it could be, and maybe it still could be, is that the villain Gabriel, who was the guy who shot tom cruz's original love because he churns through women yeah anonymous lady anonymous lady is that i think it's a i think she gets a title credit well probably probably yeah anyway she's probably
Starting point is 01:30:56 a real person yeah she's almost certainly also elsa dies in this which is very sad and whatever from frozen from frozen yes oh my god uh yeah that. Yeah, I was like, oh, that sucks. She's really good in these movies. Mariella Garriga as Marie, a woman from Ethan and Gabriel's past seen only in brief flashbacks. She is in the title sequence. Oh, okay. I mean, maybe it's a case of she filmed it and died.
Starting point is 01:31:20 No, but I'm saying the fact that they filmed so much of it, contractually she has to get a title credit. She'd think that would be in. Yeah. Because she doesn't speak. You'd think it would be anyway. She's just like, ah, and then she's shot. Anyway, I thought Gabriel, there was a chance that whoever that guy is,
Starting point is 01:31:34 he's long dead and the entity has brought this guy back from the past and just putting the mask on like multiple people. So Gabriel is actually like nine different men with different abilities that the entity is using to get to Ethan Hunt. That's why he's so good at sword fighting and et cetera. I was like, who is this? It's the dog. It's clear I'm back early.
Starting point is 01:31:55 I know. I'm going to manage her. She's big too. She's gotten bigger. Mason, run. It's getting late yeah oh yeah that would explain
Starting point is 01:32:11 why he's good at martial arts and he's good at etc and you know the entity is gone well this is a this is a face
Starting point is 01:32:18 from your past that can rattle you in a way that nobody else seems to have been able to since but also I can buy that like
Starting point is 01:32:24 the entity found this guy because he's the guy that bothers Tom Cruise the most. But I just think it would be more interesting if he's not real. You're a real Tom botherer, so we're going to bring you in. I'm a bother botherer. I'm a bother botherer. Just middle name everybody. I also think there's a chance that Benji is compromised
Starting point is 01:32:43 or will be compromised. Interesting. Because he's the guy that'sji is compromised or will be compromised. Interesting. Because he's the guy who's like, I love all my friends. That's true. And then the computer's like, well, if you love your friends, why don't you shoot them for me? Oh, I want to, though. Well, you have to.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Oh, no. Yeah. It's just like Halo, Benji. Oh. Which one? Bad ones. I don't know. It's one of them Master Chief, he goes rogue or whatever.
Starting point is 01:33:01 It's like the show, the TV show they made. Oh, no, that was bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. So It's like the show, the TV show they made. Oh, no, that was bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, so there's a little bit of a retcon. Yeah. Which is that the IMF seems to be composed almost entirely of, like, ex-criminals. They've gone the route of, like, well, if you're good at crime,
Starting point is 01:33:17 you're probably also good at saving the world. Yeah. A little bit of that. If you want. Yeah. And also a lot of them appear to be like sleeper agents basically. Right, yeah. Like he meets one at the start who's just delivering seemingly.
Starting point is 01:33:29 He probably isn't just an Uber Eats guy or whatever. But maybe a lot of them just do that. They do a job. Maybe he doesn't pay enough. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he doesn't pay a living wage. Maybe you should unionize IMF agents. It'll be tricky because you're all in masks and none of you know
Starting point is 01:33:42 who the other guys are. Yeah, nobody will believe you when you come forth. Yeah. And be like, Kittredge would pay me more. That's a good point. Kittredge is not his boss anymore, I think. Kittredge is the director of the CIA now. Yeah, just another guy.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Yeah, but also I get the sense in this that, as they mentioned, like the IMF don't really answer to anybody or sometimes not at all. Yeah, that's a bit fake. It seems to be they answer to the president. Yeah. Okay. Oh, and here's a bit fake. It seems to be the answer to the president. Yeah. Okay. Oh, and here's a question for you. The opening sequence in the airport, Benji has to-
Starting point is 01:34:10 Hey, Jack. That's Joe Biden. Corn Pop was a bad dude. He's sending messages. Oh, okay, right. Just random, like, scramble brain nonsense. So Gabriel is going- So the team want to get the key.
Starting point is 01:34:23 The guy who has the key is going to get on a plane. So Gabriel puts a bag that's going to go on the plane. Yeah. The bag seemingly contains a nuclear bomb. And they're like, well, that's going to blow that guy up and whatever. Benji defuses the bomb by answering a bunch of riddles. It knows who he is. That's when I got the sense that, like, this is going to fuck Benji up.
Starting point is 01:34:42 But then there's nothing in it. Yeah. What was the point of the bomb? Because I don't think it wants to actually like nuclear bomb everybody. Interesting. I think it is the thing where it is trying to save the world and make the world better and it's using Gabriel who's like an agent of chaos. But then we'll dispose of him when the time suits.
Starting point is 01:34:59 With a nuclear bomb? With a nuclear bomb. Interesting. I can meet it. Hit this bomb or I'll kill somebody. Maybe. I don't know. I'll kill somebody you like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. I can meet it. Hit this bomb. Or I'll kill somebody. Maybe. I'll kill somebody you like. I'll find something you like.
Starting point is 01:35:09 That's right. I don't know what it is yet. So there's a moment where also they're on a train and Hayley Atwell's like, I'm going to earn my freedom by putting on a mask and whatever. That's right. That kind of felt pointless because she was trying to get Kittredge to clear Hayley Atwell but pretending
Starting point is 01:35:24 to be Vanessa Kirby. Okay. And I feel like even though she didn't get away with it because they figured it out, she would have left the room and then the real Vanessa Kirby would have been like, what just happened? And then all of that is void. Like I don't think that means.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Right. It's just kind of like. But she did do the classic of like, next time I see you, I probably won't even remember. So don't bring it up. Yeah, like in a minute from now because I'm one carriage away. Also, I'm going to switch clothes real quick. Yeah, and eye color.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Yeah. So, you know. Yeah. But how did you feel about it? So Tom Cruise gets onto the train in this by doing a big jump and parachuting. Yeah, yeah. Did he mean to crash through the window and kill that guy? Was that an accident?
Starting point is 01:35:59 That seemed like an accident, right? Felt like an accident, yeah. Yeah. Could have killed anybody. I feel like the later movies especially, they want to humanise him a little bit by giving him an element where he really gets winded really bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:13 So that was that one and the bit where he has to figure out the car. There's some in the previous movies as well. Yeah, there's a few movies where he has a heart attack. Oh, yeah, he has that heart attack that time and technically dies, I guess. Twice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's two separate movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I like all of that, I guess. Twice. Two separate movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:26 But I like all of that. How do you feel, I know we briefly mentioned it, but the death of Elsa, how do you feel? That speaks to like, again, like, Ethan, you protect the people you love, but sometimes you can't. He's like, but I will protect you. And she's like, but you didn't protect that other woman who was stabbed on a bridge or whatever. He's like, yeah, but this time I'm going to fly through the window on a jetpack
Starting point is 01:36:41 or whatever. That's right. Well, I mean, I would have liked to see Elsa. But, I mean, I would have liked to see her live. That's the point of the death is that you like her. That's exactly right. If I felt nothing for that character and she died, I'd be like, eh. You're saying they should have killed Benji. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:57 That's right. Yeah, cool. I like how Luther was just like, I'm going to go and try and do some coding. You won't see me for the rest of the Mission Impossible. Also, I am not going to stand up for the remainder of this series. I'm just going to be sitting down. Good. Wearing a hat and sitting down.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I was going to say, when I saw the trailer for Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1, and Ilsa has the eye patch on, I'm like, oh, she lost an eye in some sort of skirmish or paintball or something. Oh, what it really is is funny. Well, when I watch the movie, I'm like, oh, maybe it's some sort of technique that a sniper uses to get better aim or what have you. But then I watch an interview, which I think you've also seen,
Starting point is 01:37:32 in which she reveals that Rebecca Ferguson had to wear an eye patch because she can't wink. On either eye. In either eye, she can only blink, it turns out. So Macquarie had to rustle up an eye patch real quick because they were like, okay, now squint through the sniper scope and she's like, all right, but my thigh's open. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Yeah. Why couldn't she just blink then? Some people can't. No, but why can't she just blink and put one eye in the sky? And they see your eye or whatever? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. This is cooler.
Starting point is 01:37:58 She's got the best looks, man. That's true. What a cool look. It's like a solid snake situation. I mean, she doesn't have Shea Whigham hair, but alright. Alright, calm down, idiot. Anything else before we talk some reviews that people have sent in?
Starting point is 01:38:12 Oh, the train's falling and they're jumping from carriages. Terrific, I love that. That was really good. Very Nathan Drake. Oh yeah. Which was the best movie of last year. Yeah, I think that was my that was probably my favourite stunt sequence. I mean, there's obviously like CGI in that. Yeah, yeah. But also again, I think, was probably my favourite stunt sequence. I mean, there's obviously like CGI in that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:26 But also, again, I think, you know what? The motorcycle off the cliff into the, the very idea of it, the motorcycle off the cliff and into the parachute thing, truly insane. The fact that he kept doing it like however many times and at any moment he could have like got his foot caught in the motorcycle and plunged to his death is insane. Yeah, we love that.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Yeah, but also, again, the fact that it was on digital, like you could – There's a moment also where it's got like – Because they had to – Where like there's a GoPro on him. Oh, yeah. And that kind of looks a bit strange. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:58 But I think watching it on YouTube, I'm like, wow, that does feel – it does feel insane. Different on the screen. But on the big screen, when they had to composite out the ramp, it did feel like he's just motorcycling up to nowhere. But, yeah, the sequence in the train where all the train carriages are falling off the cliff, that was great. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:39:20 And they had to keep jumping from carriage to carriage. It's a real Nathan Drake, Tom Holland situation. situation absolutely here's some reviews that people wrote in mason this one's from shane who says i think it's safe to say that movies are back baby great just having just watched mission impossible dead reckoning nate says like all two partners this year mission impossible seven feels stretched thin and exposition heavy but enough action worthy of best movie ever tigra says def best movie ever. Tigress says, deaf best movie ever. Seen it twice already. Big stunts, big fights, big everything. Tom Cruise continues to
Starting point is 01:39:49 be equally entertaining and terrifyingly intense and Jacob says, has shown us that the excitement of cinema isn't dead. Best movie ever. I'm very much looking forward to the follow up of this. We've already seen a little bit of footage with the biplane where Tom's like, come and see a movie or I'll kill myself. And then he flies off or whatever. If you don't come and see a movie where I'll kill myself, you know, and then he flies off or whatever.
Starting point is 01:40:05 If you don't come and see a movie where I attempt to kill myself, I'll kill myself. It looks like he's growing his hair out for the next movie also, which I'm a bit embarrassed about. He's like, time to go back to the old me, Mission Impossible 2 style, anime hair. Anime hair, yeah. So that movie has also shut down production, I believe,
Starting point is 01:40:22 because of the strikes. But that's movies. It's supposed to be coming out next year, but we'll see. What is coming out next year? We just don't know at this point. Some things. Yeah. I mean, it wouldn't put it past them if they just released
Starting point is 01:40:35 that 25-minute cold opening sequence as like Dead Reckoning Origins. Not a bad idea. Anyways, all in all, they've made a good movie. I want to know what Hideo Kojima thinks of this movie. I don't know if he's seen it yet. Let's have a look. He'll write something. Because the worst thing you can, the worst thing, I don't know if people follow Hideo Kojima on Twitter,
Starting point is 01:40:53 but he will often review a movie and he'll put up some photos and he'll talk about how much he liked it, but if he hated it, he won't say anything. He'll just be like, saw this, nothing else, and you're like, ooh, kiss of death. Ooh. Kiss of death. I don't know if he hated it, he won't say anything. He'd just be like, saw this, nothing else, and you're like, ooh, kiss of death. Ooh. Kiss of death.
Starting point is 01:41:07 I don't know if he has, but that's life sometimes, you know? That's right. Don't say anything. Yeah, I'm just having a quick look now. But no, nothing yet. What's he up to? Hideo Kojima is the director of the Metal Gear Solid franchise, for people who don't know.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Are you telling me that because I don't know? Yeah. Thank you for telling me. You're welcome. And now I know. Should we move on to the next segment of the show? Yes. What is it?
Starting point is 01:41:28 It's called What We Reading. What We Gonna Read. Perfect. What's Sweet Relief? I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? What are you doing? That's a great question.
Starting point is 01:41:42 You know what's coming out in Australia middle of this week? A pavlova. No. A lamington. Maybe. A hat with corks on it. You know, up until that last one, you were very correct and you were very actually on theme because it's season two of The Bear.
Starting point is 01:41:57 I've already watched The Bear. Yeah, you would have. Because you stole it off the internet? No. How did you see it then? VPNs. That's stealing it off the internet. I disagree.
Starting point is 01:42:04 It's actually very good season two as well. Oh, is it? Okay, great That's stealing off the internet. I disagree. It's actually very good season two as well. Oh, is it? Okay, great. Yeah, a lot of people are like oh, it's so very good. Wow. No, no one's saying that and it is good. It's a good series. I want to watch that. I don't know why they're doing this. I assume it's because they wanted to get the entire season out before they put it on Disney+.
Starting point is 01:42:20 But it's coming out on Disney+. This week I'm going to watch it all. I'm going to have a great time. I mean, sure, I've got to go see Barbie and Oppenheimer, but I'm going to watch The Bear too because I thought it was- What day is it out this week? Wednesday, I think, the 19th. Oh, my God. That's great news.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Yeah, well, that was my thing that I was- I watched The Bear season two. Very intense. And what's interesting is it's very intense about things that I don't care about. Oh, yes. It's like, this restaurant's good, and I'm like, ultimately, I don't care, but I like your tattoos. What if you were going going i like how cool you are are you is that because you're not invested because you know that restaurant isn't actually real yeah and you can't go and visit it was a real restaurant i would care immensely that's not actually true
Starting point is 01:42:56 no i think you wouldn't go there because it doesn't look like anything on the menu you would like i like all of that stuff i like a fancy food you just like protein shakes that's not true if i'm going out you know what I fucking hate, Mason? What's that? I hate when you go to an average restaurant for no reason. Oh, yeah. I like fine, not even fine. Fine's the wrong word.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I like dining experiences with good hearty food. Wow. Which put a bit of love into it, Mason. Like a McDonald's. Not necessarily. Interesting. But you know, just not this bog standard shit. I live in the suburbs.
Starting point is 01:43:23 There's fucking nothing here, mate. I'm dying. I'm drowning in terrible food, Mason. I live in the suburbs. There's fucking nothing here, mate. I'm dying. I'm drowning in terrible food, Mason. I just want to go to a good restaurant. Oh, yeah. You know what Claire said to me once? The absolute goal. She goes, you don't even like food.
Starting point is 01:43:34 And I'm like, how fucking dare you? She's like, you don't appreciate food like I don't appreciate food. And you know what I said? I said, you don't appreciate the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Oh, no. Oh, no, you said it. I said it. Wow. Yeah. Look, she doesn't appreciate the Marvel cinematic universe oh no oh no you lost it i said it wow oh yeah look she doesn't appreciate the marvel cinematic universe but i also think your taste buds are dead that's
Starting point is 01:43:51 not true because i love awesome food yeah i just don't eat like a bunch of like junk all the time not even junk just nothing food you know what i mean you're going to get a meal and you're like this was whatever what a waste should have just eaten four boiled eggs. Yeah. You know? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:44:11 That's pretty good. What's next? That's a good question. Did I watch anything else, though? I don't know. You watched My Adventures of Superman yet? No, I haven't seen that yet. I want to watch that.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Me and my mate Superman or whatever it's called. Yeah. That's pretty good. Oh, I've been watching your YouTube channel. He's an Australian guy. His name is Stam Fine. Stam Fine? You'd be like, is it Stan Fine?
Starting point is 01:44:30 No, it's Stam Fine. But he does like- Doctor Who? Yeah, he does like a lot of retrospective reviews of stuff. Some of it's SEO based like us. So he'll do like Indiana Jones, et cetera. Disgusting. But also he'll cover what I call a bunch of crap.
Starting point is 01:44:46 Yeah. So like he'll talk about like old series that I've always heard the names of, but I don't understand what they are, like Blake Seven or like Captain Scarlet. You know, some of these old – I'm looking at all this stuff. I'm like, what is this stuff? Some of this old stuff, exactly. Or like Manimal or like, you know, any of those –
Starting point is 01:45:00 Oh, The Towering Inferno. I'm going to add that one to my list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's – yeah, it's, you know, pretty fun stuff. And he covers your basics and he does all, you know, little jokes and he talks about the production and stuff. We've done one on Zardos. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:10 So it's all this sort of stuff. Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. Oh, yeah. And what else? He'll cover, like, you know, like some of your big stuff, like your Knight Riders and so forth. Yeah. But some stuff like, oh, what's the other one?
Starting point is 01:45:22 There's one about an auto man, which is about like a Tron. He's like an AI auto man which is about like a tron he's like a he's like an ai guy from the 80s okay and he's like a tron guy in real life blake seven is this is this like red dwarf no it's well i suspect red dwarf got some um inspiration from it is it a comedy no it's it's a drama oh because it looks like shit yes that's right that's fascinating yeah yeah but that's like, it is British though. Oh, no, I know. You can tell from the production quality and design. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:50 But it also has that, I watched that one. It's very interesting. It's like seven. They're like a band of rebels fighting. It's a very Star Wars-y kind of thing. Well, one of them is wearing the Han Solo clothes. Yeah, that's exactly right. And also they, but they do the Star Trek thing of like,
Starting point is 01:46:03 they have teleporter devices because it's cheaper than cheaper than it's cheaper than walking from one room to another it's cheaper than having to build a shuttle and show the shuttle going down to a planet and you know that the shuttle set and the whatever when you can just go through to beam up and then it just goes and they're back and you know now we're in Battersea now we're in Battersea by the power station which is where the Grebulons are whatever
Starting point is 01:46:30 you know yeah anyway that's a good that's a good recommendation I think track that down I think yeah I suspect
Starting point is 01:46:35 what's next then after that we do the letters oh yeah it's people have sent us and there's a letters theme which I have ready to go yeah
Starting point is 01:46:44 I put the volume up on my phone because I play it through my phone. And the reason you play it through your phone is because I actually refuse to play it through my computer on. Is that correct? Well, not that I do that anymore, but now Colin, who edits these, he also refuses. We are in solidarity against you. Are you forming a union? Yes. Oh, my God. What are your
Starting point is 01:46:59 demands? Well, you have to keep doing this. Okay, but I want $1,000. $1,000? Yes. All right, we'll take $1,000. Okay, great. Done deal. You idiots. No, you give us $1,000. I know, you idiots. I thought you didn't get what I said, Mason. No, I got it. I'm stupid. That's my bit. I'm doing stupid. I'm giving you the money. It's good how art imitates life, Mason. Isn't it though? It never turns out well when we talk over that. It never sounds good.
Starting point is 01:47:30 AI could never have done that though. I agree. An AI would have said don't do that. An AI would have done something worse. That's true. Mason, if you want to reach the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's right.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Got a letter? Not yet. I got a tweet from Deej. Terrific. Who says, oh, we talked about this, so maybe we stole it. Hashtag weeklyplanetpod. What if Deadpool 3 is Marvel's take on Deadpool kills the Marvel universe, but instead it's Deadpool killing the Fox universe?
Starting point is 01:47:56 Very possible. And I've heard also somebody's said, like, what if the TVA sends Wolverine to kill Deadpool? Oh. Because he's got that teleporter, Deadpool, and he's like, stop Deadpool from killing all the Fox characters sends Wolverine to kill Deadpool? Oh. Because he's got that teleporter, Deadpool, and he's like stop Deadpool from killing all the Fox characters or whatever. Oh, that's right. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Sure, maybe. Maybe. It can be anything. Do you think there'll be a fun Logan reference? Yes. Do you think they'll be like, hey, Wolverine, hope you don't end up old and sad. Yes.
Starting point is 01:48:19 I think it's also said they take him, according to James Mangold, well before Logan. Although he's a younger Wolverine. You can tell because he looks slightly younger. He does look slightly younger. Because of his hair dye. What have you got, Mason? Or another one from me?
Starting point is 01:48:32 No, I'll find it. It's from J.D. Oh, man. It's from J.D. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Based on your Harrison Ford rundown, I wanted to throw in the Mosquito Coast. A pretty great performance. Plus River Phoenix and Helen Miriam.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Keep up the great work. Now, they've remade that. An Apple Plus with like Justin Theroux. Now they call it the Mosquito Coast, a pretty great performance, plus River Phoenix and Helen Miriam. Keep up the great work. Now they've remade that on Apple Plus with like Justin Theroux. Now they call it the Mosquito Coast. Mosquito. They call it the Mosquito Toast. Is that an accident? No, it's purposeful. That's really good then.
Starting point is 01:48:54 But it's to get around paying residuals to the original writers. I meant to watch this one of one of the things I watched from our Harrison Ford-a-thon, which we didn't do. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Mosquito Coast. Nice. Here's an email from Justin, and the subject line starts with, help me convince my wife and family the, so I'm going to read this
Starting point is 01:49:12 and see what it says. Oh, my God, okay. Okay, Justin, help me convince my wife and family that I'm funny and clever. All right. Here we go. All right, here we go. Hey, guys, first I want to give you a thanks for your weekly shenanigans. No worries. As a sixth grade teacher on break. Oh, guys. First off, I want to give you a thanks for your weekly shenanigans. No worries.
Starting point is 01:49:25 As a sixth grade teacher on break. Oh, I did that. About four and a half weeks into my grub era, the podcast has been something I can look forward to each week to keep me sane. My brother, his girlfriend, my wife, and I recently went to see Mission Impossible. All of us being huge fans of the series decided to create bingo cards
Starting point is 01:49:40 of our predictions for the movie to determine definitively who of us is the most Tom Cruise. Oh, my God. cards of our predictions for the movie to determine definitively who of us is the most Tom Cruise. Oh my God. Unfortunately, we seem to have stumbled onto a technicality that none of us are smart or brave enough to make a definitive statement on. I had on my bingo card, Ethan Hunt is the living manifestation of destiny. In my hubris, I believe this to be my ace in the hole. Such a statement is canonically fact in the Mission Impossible universe.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Yeah. However, early on in the movie, Shea Whigham refers to Ethan as the shape-shifting, mind-reading embodiment of chaos. Yes. While these are completely different statements, I feel they're similar enough to count. But our group has found itself at an impasse based on this question. We need you to step in and tell it like it is.
Starting point is 01:50:18 Oh, man. I mean, it definitely had those vibes, but I don't know what you were going for here because, like, were you saying that that exact line was going to be in it? Oh, that's true, yeah. Or were you saying that something along this description? I'd love to back you up because I appreciate the big swing. I think we're going with not the exact quote but the concept
Starting point is 01:50:36 of him being the living manifestation of destiny. But I also feel like the living manifestation of destiny is the exact opposite of an embodiment of chaos. See what I'm saying? I mean, an embodiment of chaos. See what I'm saying? I mean, the embodiment of chaos can also can, there is something to be said for, like, that will change a destiny. Oh, yes. You know, like, destiny can happen to you regardless
Starting point is 01:50:55 and chaos happens to you regardless. So I think those two do go hand in hand. Here's another email. Okay. So what are we saying? What are we saying? I'm saying Well see here's the thing
Starting point is 01:51:06 I think if we were like I think if the bingo card had said Someone in the movie Yep Makes a sweeping statement about The iconic nature of Tom Cruise Yeah Slash Ethan Hunt
Starting point is 01:51:20 Yep I think you would check it off I agree But I think This is too far off the mark. Because he's gone – because he went, I want this exact line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if somebody –
Starting point is 01:51:30 I hate to say it, but I think I agree. I think if there was a line in it that is like meant to feed the ego of this character and be like, he's the greatest. He should be on the $1 bill or whatever. He'll kiss everybody in this movie. Exactly. But I think you've gone too specific. And that's how if you want to check those bingo boxes,
Starting point is 01:51:49 you've got to go vague. I completely agree. So we cannot convince your wife and family that you're funny and clever. No. We tried our best. We think you are, though. Yeah, but you didn't give us anything to work with. No.
Starting point is 01:51:59 It's your fault. Exactly. This is an email from Kevin. Kevin? Subject line, what if he dies? Who? Hey, James and Mace. Is it me? No.. Kevin? Subject line, what if he dies? Who? Hey, James and Mason. Is it me?
Starting point is 01:52:06 No. Hey, James and Mason, a quick question for you about totally normal man of average height, Tom Cruise. Me? Oh, yeah. Since all of the stunts he does are pretty dangerous, do you think they have a plan in place if he dies? Yes.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Is it Tom's wish that the stunt that kills him goes in the movie and it just ends, or does Jeremy Renner return and replace him for the rest of the movie i think there is something in place but tom cruise 100 thinks he's not gonna die yeah and that he's the center of the universe yeah yeah i have said in the past that i think he's gonna die in space yeah but you're absolutely right i these are safe as well what they're doing recently as you can recently uh the uh the website letterboxd went to uh tom cruz on the red carpet and they did that thing they do with actors where they go hey what are your four favorite movies yeah and we haven't seen the results of that yet but apparently
Starting point is 01:52:55 he would not say like he would not yeah i'm sure he said something along the lines of oh my god i love cinema yeah cinema's the best i'm always seeing a movie yeah that's right yeah i love cinema toast crunch sneak into the movie that's right exactly yeah i love i love action and i love comedy and i love yeah romance and i love every genre i love the flash exactly and i think it's a similar thing here i think that would be like tom we need to sit you down yeah and discuss what will happen if you die during a stunt he's like listen thank you for that first of all thank you for your concern i put the And he's like, listen, thank you for that, first of all. Thank you for your concern. I put the movie first also.
Starting point is 01:53:27 That's right. Thank you for your concern about me. I'm also concerned about your safety. Let's talk about you. And he like, even though there were lawyers there, like really high-powered lawyers being paid thousands of dollars an hour, and then all of a sudden they're just outside the room. And they're like like how did we
Starting point is 01:53:45 how did we and he's in your office yeah that's right yeah yeah he's locked the door he's locked the door and he didn't and they're like how did and it's the question remains unanswered i bet mcquarry has some plans i think there are plans i bet the studio has plans but he is he's not he's not because he's like obviously that's not gonna happen they're like well like, well, obviously, Tom, it's not going to happen. We will table this for another day. But they're like, yeah, we're going to put it. Because often also they'll film the stunt first. Right, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:12 Which is an interesting way to do it. But it's also, I guess, because then you can just do the rest of the movie because you train up to that. That's the hardest thing to pull off. Because if he's doing like a thousand hours of jumping out of a plane or whatever, you know, it's, god oh who knows who knows yes anyways from danny boy the pipes the pipes who says hashtag wicked pun a pod last week's episode was top notch also a perfect snapshot of a man being very sour because his wife is out of town while his co-worker is trying to be a good friend
Starting point is 01:54:39 and you're doing the i'm doing some sharkers i'm throwing up some sharkers for you. That's my sharkers of respect. You're holding it together. That's right. Claire will be back by next week. You can tell her all about Oppenheimer and Barbie. No, I'm going to drag her to both. Great. Terrific.
Starting point is 01:54:54 I love that. She's not interested in either. Really? She's like, don't care about Barbie. Not even the girl movie. Not even the girl movie. Oppenheimer. I've done it again.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Andy's dabbing. Whoa. You're dabbing again. Whoa. Whoop, whoop, whoop. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And he's dabbing. Whoa. You're dabbing again. This time I was dabbing. Let's see here.
Starting point is 01:55:11 Well, I'm ready to go, Mason. This is long enough. Okay. Enough. I'm going to do one more email. I'm South African. This is long enough. This is from David.
Starting point is 01:55:19 David? Dear spam folder, this email was most likely sent to. Hello. No, we dodged it. Yeah, we got you. I was listening to your latest podcast and heard James name drop Sliders, as the pod does every now and again to our endless glee. Sliders is one of those gloriously off-the-rails shows that ever existed, and the thought crossed
Starting point is 01:55:34 my mind that episodes of it might make for some good caravan of garbage content. If you were to vote an episode or two to unpacking that show, I'd be here for it. All right. I'd probably do the dinosaur one. Uh-huh. After Jurassic Park came out, and I'd do one where Jonathan Rice Davies takes a bullet and he dies. Wow.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Yeah. I reckon maybe we could do a series on – I love sliders. I love so much sliders. What if we did – at some point maybe we could do a run on, like, shows from that era. Yeah. We could do an episode of sliders, an episode of Xena.
Starting point is 01:56:06 We do maybe an episode of Powerball, which is like our lotto draw, which would happen just before Sliders went on. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What else? We can do an episode on Burjo's catchphrase. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:56:16 We could meet him in real life once. He was really nice. That's great. Yeah. Even though I was half cut, he was very tolerant. That's cool. Nice, yeah. Another episode of Sliders. Yep. Yeah. Any others? Earth 2. That's cool. Nice, yeah. Another episode of Sliders.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Yep. Yeah. Any others? Earth 2. Earth 2 would be great. Yeah. Sure, sure, sure. Harsh Realm.
Starting point is 01:56:32 What about the show Now and Again? Yeah, the one where John Goodman is turned into a big sexy robot. He wasn't a robot, Mason. Right. He wasn't a robot. It was a man. He just was in the perfect body.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Yeah, nice. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, John Goodman. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, nice. Very sexy. I was so mad when Goodman. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, nice. Very sexy.
Starting point is 01:56:47 I was so mad when that ended. And also I was so mad because they aired it here even though it had already been cancelled. So I'm like, cool. Come over for season two. There isn't one. Wow. Yeah. Brutal.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Yeah. Anyway, that's all the letters. I agree. There's actually more letters. More than that. Maybe next week we'll do more letters. All right, that's the show. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast.
Starting point is 01:57:06 I agree. We very much appreciate it. We're recording this Saturday night, so if any big, big-time news happens Sunday, sorry we missed it. We don't care. Sorry, not sorry. That's right. We're glad. We're glad we missed the big news.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Folks. Go on, though. Thank you for liking the show. Yep. Thank you for subscribing to the show. Yep. Thank you. Thank you for liking the show. Yep. Thank you for subscribing to the show.
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Starting point is 01:57:40 Not this week, though. Not this week, though. Just kidding. This one is from Rick Shady, who's given us five stars in his app of choice. The real Rick Shady? That's right. It says, the Machine Gun Callie of podcasts. Love that.
Starting point is 01:57:49 Oh, the podcast is great. Both host James and Mason constantly act like they are rock star podcasters in a movie, not how actual podcasters are. Just two Zach Braffs from the show No One Watched mixed with the cast of Only Murders. Keep it up, boys. We will. And we're dabbing. Maybe we should watch it.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Maybe we should do a Caravan of Garbage on Alex Inc. Maybe we should. I don't think we should. This one's from Doodle. Nobody would watch that. No. This one's from Doodle, boys. We will. And we're dabbing. Maybe we should watch it. Maybe we should do a Caravan of Garbage on Alex Inc. Maybe we should. I don't think we should. Nobody would watch that. No. This one's from Doodle Sir. Same thing. In app.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Five stars. Nice. Good podcast. Got me through the pandemic. Thank you, funny Aussie men, for the parasocial relationship. You're very welcome. And I think it's a real relationship. I agree.
Starting point is 01:58:20 Go on. Folks, if you want to get into contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at Gmail, at Facebook, at Twitter, at Bandcamp. Let's see. You can go to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group. You can go to the Weekly Planet Podcast subreddit and Discord. If you want to follow some people in the socials, first follow Rob Collings. He is your big-time source for big-time Weekly Planet podcasting news.
Starting point is 01:58:40 There's a very specific moment in the podcast that he will tell you about it. You might know when it is. You might know. He might also be very busy editing this podcast, doing the socials. That's right. Moderating the forums, doing pretty much everything. Practicing his big karate kicks. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:58:56 He's got a big tournament coming up. That's right. Yeah. He's looking to kill this year. Sweet Tommy. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. That's really cool.
Starting point is 01:59:03 This anybody, though. It could be a judge. Oh, yeah. Member of the audience. It could be a judge. Oh, yeah. Member of the audience. It could be someone in the car park afterwards. I don't know. That's right. Anyway. The guy in the drive-thru at McDonald's on the way out. But if you want the big news on that,
Starting point is 01:59:18 follow Matt Raw Collings on Twitter at The Weekly Platter on Twitter. You can follow me on Twitter at Wikipedia Brown. You're going to follow me on Instagram at NickMaso. Yeah. James is MrSundayMovies everywhere. This is all in the episode description. One can only hope.
Starting point is 01:59:30 I agree. Also, thank you to Maisie and Fidel and Sarabi who do all the moderation over at the Planet Broadcasting Great Mass Effect group. They're doing a great job. Among many other tasks. That's exactly right. Doing the TikToks.
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Starting point is 02:00:00 Yes. Sign up for $9 per month bonus podcast, movie commentaries, early videos, all sorts of stuff. This week it's my least favourite thing Oh it's a clickbait episode We got this covered My favourite thing happened last week and it's all still up there there's thousands of hours of stuff. It's the Time Machine commentary from 2002
Starting point is 02:00:15 Some people are calling it the best commentary we've ever done People are enjoying it a lot which is very nice of them to say I can't remember what we talked about but it is the Guy Pearce starring the Time Machine directed by an actual descendant of H.G. Wells. That's right. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, very fun stuff.
Starting point is 02:00:31 I remember having a lot of fun recording it. That's right. But there's video game Let's Plays and a bunch of stuff up there. That's exactly right. There's another video game Let's Play next week. That's right. Let's see. Thank you to the Brute and the Basilisk and Rackham for all our musical themes.
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Starting point is 02:00:50 Draw it. Draw it with a pencil. Draw it with a pencil. Yeah. When in doubt, draw it with a pencil. All right. Next week, Barbie and Oppenheimer. It's Oppenheimer week.
Starting point is 02:01:00 We're going to do it. We are. Is this all going to end in a big explosion? Yes. Or is it going to fizzle out and something to do with Barbie? Yeah, something to do with Barbie. It's really good. Contrast.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Contrasting. That's the fun of this is they're contrasting movies. Yes, that is the fun. We enjoy that. We enjoy it. Yeah. Thanks, everyone. Grabbed our gym, you guys.
Starting point is 02:01:21 We'll see you next week. Can't believe you brought contrast into this podcast. It's themes, you know. Yeah. I don't week. Can't believe you brought contrast into this podcast. It's themes, you know? Yeah. I don't know. I just don't think we should do that. Should we go on strike in solidarity?
Starting point is 02:01:31 With what? I mean, what do we strike? We don't, nobody owns this. Yeah, that's true. It's ours.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Yeah. But wouldn't it be good to stick it to us for once? Oh my God, it really would. The contrast. How about we go on strike and then we hire two scabs, but the scabs are us. Love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:46 And we switch roles? No, same. Oh, damn. Okay, bye everyone. Bye. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret,
Starting point is 02:02:08 the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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