The Weekly Planet - 488 Barbie & Oppenheimer

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

It's Barbenheimer week everybody and you know what that means, reviews of both Barbie and Oppenheimer but not in that order. But there's plenty of news to get to before that including updates on the Writers/Actors strike, Aquaman 2 gets a third round of reshoots, He-Man scrapped at Netflix, trailers from The Marvels and Invincible Season 2, more DC animated movies including Watchmen, Spider-Man 2 Playstation 5 details and more! Thanks for the supportVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:47 Hollywood Strike Update, More Delays, Tom Cruise Loves Movies15:00 Aquaman 2 Gets More Reshoots18:50 Blue Beetle Gets No Reshoots20:02 He-Man and the Masters of the Universe Movie Scrapped22:06 The Marvels Trailer24:03 Invincible S2 Trailer & Surprise Ep Release26:01 New DC & Watchmen Animated Projects (SDCC 2023)29:36 Spider-Man 2 PS5 Story Trailer30:11 Oppenheimer Review (spoilers 54:01 to 01:05:05)01:05:05 Barbie Review (spoilers 01:18:29 to 01:27:43)01:27:43 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:32:28 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host, as mentioned, as I do every week up top, Nick Mason. You changed one thing in the opening there? I don't know what it was. I don't know either. You changed one word or you changed the timing slightly or you move a word around and it's thrown me completely. This is going to be the worst episode we've ever done. I figured it out.

Yes. We're both facing the opposite walls. We're not looking at each other. That's what it is. That's what's different. It's the important cue of looking at another person's face as you speak to them. Exactly, Mason.

And that's also, a lot of movies is that, isn't it? We should do it fighter pilot style or bobsled style. Absolutely. We're both facing forward. Tandem parachuting? Yeah, I think so, yeah. It's a two-person something. Well, I mean, that's what we haven't done is, you know,

we haven't explored all the options of just stupid stunt podcasts. That's true, yeah. We definitely should have done, you know, our pals over at Auntie Donna have done the car podcast. Yep. They've done a boat podcast. That's true, yeah. Which we definitely should have done. You know, our pals over at Auntie Donna have done the car podcast. Yep. They've done a boat podcast. Yep. We should do just stuff that isn't going to work

and we have to throw away the audio. Interesting. I like this idea. Pretty good, right? I like putting a lot of effort into a thing that doesn't work. Right. You know I love that. But also what we could do is not do it and say we did it

and we lost the audio. That's true. You know? Perfect. Okay, cut all this. Some sad news, folks. Yeah. We did record this on the International Space Station.

That's right. But Buzz Aldrin. Facing different walls. That's right, but Buzz Aldrin lost the audio. Typical as well. And he told us the moon landing was fake. It's true. He did say that.

He told us. Yeah. And he wasn't joking. It was sincere. It was very sincere. He told us. Yeah. Yeah. And he wasn't joking. It was sincere. It was very sincere. Yeah. We didn't even ask. He said it unprompted.

I think he's just got tired of living the lie, you know? That's cool. Yeah. Mason. Hello. Speaking of living a lie. Oh, yes. The people in Hollywood.

One of the things we're going to talk about this week. Okay. And there's time codes below. They're not paying people enough. That's true. And they're lying and saying that they are paying enough. That's one of the things we're going to talk about. Oh, yes.

We're going to talk about Tom Cruise stepping in to negotiations. Yes, that's right. We're going to be talking about how Aquaman 2 is in an interesting state. Interesting. For multiple reasons. We're going to get into Blue Beetle. We're going to get into some movies maybe being delayed. We're going to be talking about Masters of the Universe

for a second time in a week. Oh. You know, perfect timing because we covered it in Caravan of Garbage last Thursday. We're going to also do new trailers including the Marvels and Invincible Season 2, plus some Comic-Con stuff happened, didn't it? It was Comic-Con.

It certainly was. But Comic-Con sans celebrities and actors and movies. It seemed nice. It seemed nice. There seemed to be a lot of room in a lot of those auditoriums if you wanted to stretch your legs or put some food next to you or your bag or something on the seat next to you. Saw some announcements for some comics and stuff I wouldn't normally see

and I went, oh, yeah. I don't remember any of them. No, that's right. They were largely unmemorable. But just the idea that it was presented to me. That's where it started, though. Pretty incredible, yeah. Well, yeah, isn't it amazing to have a comic con that's largely

about comics? Fascinating. Indeed. And then we're going to get into the two big movies of the week, Mason. That's right, folks. It is Barbenheimer Week. That's right. And I'm going to do that joke where I go, like,

we're going to talk about the one where a person has an existential crisis and maybe it's the end of the world or whatever, and then Mason will say, and then we'll do Oppenheimer. That's going to come up in the show, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you flip it. Oh.

You flip it. Was Barbie about the end of the world? In some ways it was. Interesting. Of a world. Oh. There was a lot at stake. There was a lot at stake.

A lot at stake, Mason. It's true. Let's get into this. Time codes below. Thank you, Collings, for putting them there. Variety is saying that Warner Brothers are thinking about. Okay. Wow.

What a, what a, what a, we're just a couple of gossip hounds now. We certainly are. Pushing the dates, the release dates of Dune Part 2. Dune Part 2. That's right. The Color Purple and Aquaman 2. Now, this is very early days. And the reason, of course, this might not be happening is the stars in these movies.

Colour Purple and Aquaman. What is this, the bloody, what's the basketball team and they have the? The LA Lakers. No. The Charlotte Hornets. Charlotte Hornets. Yeah, that's good.

Those colours. That's pretty good actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well done. Thank you. Because they need, I mean, there's big stars in all of these. If you don't know, The Color Purple is a remake. Yes.

And this one, and Oprah Winfrey's behind it or whatever. So you've got all the people in Dune and The Color Purple and Aquaman 2. They can't promote any of these big movies under the strike regulations. That's true. So Warner Brothers are like, maybe we shift these then. Except Blue Beta. We're just going to push that out. That's coming out no matter what.

I wonder if anybody's gone, hey, what if we just did a switcheroo? What if we got like, we get Oprah to promote Dune. Yeah. We get Timothee Chalamet to promote The Color Purple. Okay. Jason Momoa can do. He can still do Aquaman. He can just do Aquaman and Dune.

He can do both because he's probably in both. Oh, he is in both. He is in both. Probably. He'll be in the next one. He'll be in the next Dune, I imagine. I think he's still do Aquaman. He can just do Aquaman and Dune. He can do both because he's probably in both. Oh, he is in both. He is in both. Probably. He'll be in the next one. He'll be in the next Dune, I imagine. I think he's still dead. Okay, he's still dead?

He's still dead in Dune 2. They'll probably check in on his corpse though, won't they? And he can give a wink like, I'm not really dead. I'll be back for the next one. Ding. Ding. So, yeah, I'd imagine a lot of movie studios are considering this because so much of their movie,

and we've seen that in the releases of the two this week, So, yeah, I'd imagine a lot of movie studios are considering this because so much of their movie, and we've seen that in the releases of the two this week, I mean, how much of this movie was just driven by promotion and fun little things? Oh, that's what I learned this week. Eric Banner is delaying the dry part too. Because he said apparently the success of the light. It's too wet. It's very wet.

We've got to wait for it to dry. We put it on the line. We put the reels on the line. But we had three cloudy days in a row. My wife said put it in the dryer, but I think it'll shrink. Can't do that. Everybody has to watch it on their phones. Can't do that.

Yeah. Can't do it. But apparently the success of the last one was largely down to just good word of mouth and he did a lot of interviews and that sort of stuff. So he's like, well, if we can't do a big promotional push, we'll wait. So it's interesting as well. I didn't know he had the power to be like, we're post-coding this. He's a big-time producer on that.

Well, Claire actually, I can't remember the name of the author. I've read that book. I've read both of those, well, a few of her books. What's the name of the author? Claire did an interview with her on her show. Jane Harper. Yeah, she's very, very nice and, yeah, really talented author, some say. Yeah.

I say that. And she said go ahead with the movie. Yeah. And Eric Banner was like, no, I won't do it. This is out of your hands now, Harper. Eric Banner. You know, I was Poiter. Yeah, I still am.

That's right. I can still do it. Don't make me bring out Poiter. So that's fun. Look forward to what's going on there. And here's the word from big Netflix. Oh, yeah. Their co-CEO, Ted Sarandos, came out and said,

let me start by making something absolutely clear. I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what's going to happen. It's a real emperor's new clothes situation going on here. Yeah. Our investors are going to realize we're just throwing their money into a toilet. And by emperor's new clothes, I mean I've been literally nude

since I started here. That's right. And because I'm so rich, nobody can say anything. This is what he said. This is the quote I'm reading. Wow. Didn't know you got into the quote, but we got into the quote. This strike is not an outcome that we wanted.

So I also want to say, if I may, on a personal level. We would have preferred to just pay people no residuals and they'd shut up about it. That's what we would have preferred. I'm nude. I was raised in a union household. My dad was a member of the IBEW local 640. He was a union electrician. And I remember his local because that union was very much part of our lives when I was growing up. And I also remember on more than one occasion, my dad being out on strike. And I remember that because it takes an enormous toll on your family, financially and emotionally.

It's interesting that you remember these things and experience them and you're like, God, it's hard. Is there any more to that? No, that's pretty much it. I empathise and my dad was in a union and that's it. This is called the Anthony Albanese method. Yeah. For people who don't know, the Australian Prime Minister,

that people are always asking him, hey, Albo, what are you going to do about really poor people? Are you going to help out some really poor people? I grew up really poor. My mum was poor. Yeah. Anyway, moving on and you're like, ah, ah.

You're so poor. You were poor. It's all experience being poor. Yeah, that's very relatable. But now I'm rich. Yeah. See you later, losers. That's pretty good, though, that he did that. It is good, isn't it? Yeah. Real man experienced being poor. Yeah, that's very relatable. But now I'm rich. See you later, losers. That's pretty good, though, that he did that.

It is good, isn't it? Real man of the people. Agreed. So see Robert Cargill, who you might know. Well, he started at... The name sounds familiar. Well, he wrote... He was a film reviewer, but he wrote Doctor Strange.

Like us. Yeah, like us. We also wrote Doctor Strange. Nice. The Black Phone. Have you seen The Black Phone? Not yet. It's a good horror movie.

You should watch it. He said, for those of you not in the industry wondering how the talks are going, they aren't. The AMPTP isn't meeting with anybody. They aren't negotiating. They're quite literally waiting us out, hoping enough of us will starve or lose our housing. That's it. That's their negotiation tactic. So that's fun, isn't it?

Well, don't worry, because Tom Cruise is here. Oh, I thought you were going to say, don't worry, because the ice cream so good lady was moving to Hollywood. Yeah, that's fun, isn't it? Don't worry because Tom Cruise is here. Oh, I thought you were going to say don't worry because the ice cream so good lady was moving to Hollywood to start her own reality show. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What's really weird about it, honestly, you do your ice cream so good thing, that's incredible that you've made that work.

In a way, we're doing our own ice cream so good thing. Completely agree. It's all content, man. That's right. Like I get it. But then I saw a video of her being like, I'm going to Hollywood, and I'm like, wow, the ice cream so good thing is better than, like, just you in a video.

That's mean, Mason, but she was being rude. Anyway, THR said that Tom Cruise joined a Zoom meeting in Dune. Oh, in Dune. In Dune. Back in Dune. Sorry, my brain. So this is pre-Strike. Yeah.

And he was looking for support for stunt performers and safeguards around AI, which makes sense also considering his big movie, you know. And I think what's really interesting about that is because in addition to lobbying studios and streamers on behalf of SAG-AFTRA, Cruise is said to have asked the union to consider allowing actors to promote films during a strike

given the fragile state of movie theatres. That's right. Because he, of course, had a movie upcoming and he needed to fly around the world and do a million press junkets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So obviously this was like a thing of like, well, you know, it would be cool if actors could,

like a big element of their job, maybe they could just keep doing it. Maybe not all actors, maybe just the king of actors. Me. If you wanted to name one. Yeah, could just keep doing it. Maybe not all actors, maybe just the king of actors. Me. If you wanted to name one. Yeah, if you wanted to name. If maybe all actors could nominate a representative, like maybe a guy's been in the industry for a while

and he could represent all movies, you know? That's great. Yeah. You also said this is a reminder. The idea is that it's reminding his union that promotion matters to actors too. Right. I would say not doing that would remind people more of that.

That's true. If you stop doing it and then they're like, maybe we should delay all our movies because we need the people in them to promote them. I also think that a lot of actors, if given the choice between getting paid more to do a movie and then like residuals and having to fly around the world for three months and like eat weird foods and answer autocorrect questions

or whatever. They probably just take the money. Answer questions in a hotel room and whatever. Yeah, absolutely. It's good to work with them. Yeah, no, there were some pranks on set. We went to one of those one time. We interviewed Edgar Wright.

We were probably there an hour in total. And even that, I'm like, this fucking sucks. Just sitting around. There was so much sitting around. We got there and then we had to wait in the lobby and then they moved us up to like one level of the hotel and we waited and then we had to move to a second level of the hotel and wait more and it was very nice it was lovely yeah that that wasn't the element of it but i just imagined doing that yeah for three months i got the sense that he would have preferred to do more long-form interviews.

Yeah. We already got 15 minutes. Yeah. And it's like, for me as well, like, it felt like you're just sort of building a rapport with them. Yeah. And then you have to leave. Yeah. And it's like, well.

We just got the game of Uno happening. Yeah, that's right. We were well into it. And I was like, reverse, reverse, skip, Uno. What now, Edgar Wright? What now? And he was like, reverse, reverse, skip, uno, what now Edgar Wright? What now? And he was like, take these men away. And they did.

Apparently, though, someone who was there said the Tom Cruise thing in the Zoom. It felt uncomfortable, says the source who was present. Love that. I mean, it's a good thing that he's talking about. Tom Cruise on a Zoom would be like, look at the Mona Lisa. His eyes would follow you no matter what. He'd move to the other side of your room and you'd be like,

he's still, I don't understand. Exactly. I have my camera turned off. How is he doing this? So, yeah, the snap performing thing and the safeguards around AI, absolutely, I completely agree with that. But I think clearly that was just like, I've got a big movie coming out and can I please promote this movie?

Now, apparently A24 distribution, if you've done an A24, if they're releasing through A24, you're allowed to because they just went, what do you want? Okay. Yeah. Like they just agreed to all the terms. I had a list but I ended up taking it out of like properties that are coming out, like independent productions

and whatever. And you probably haven't heard of most of them. Yeah. That's not why I took them out, but maybe it is. Yeah. You know? There are some movies that are getting a waiver for some reason because they're independent or they're super low budget or something like that.

Speaking of, now obviously people are asking James and Mason. Yes. You're big time scabs. Who are you guys? Yeah, and that's true. We know you're scabs. We don't know anything else about you. I mean, the show is pretty much going to continue as normal.

This will probably come up every week and if not every other week. Yeah. This is obviously something that we support but we're not doing any promotion for anything. Based on the SAG-AFTRA rules

that we have seen on Twitter. Yeah, we're not in anything. No, we're not in anything. We're in it for ourselves. That's exactly right

but apparently we are allowed to still do, in solidarity, we decided we would follow the rules. We're still allowed to review, but if a company was like, hey, do you want money to say, hey, why don't you check out this movie? We can't do it. Or we'll do it, but we won't tell you we took the money.

That's right. And if you see an ad appearing, it's ironic. Yeah, yeah. We did it as a joke. Or we did it a year ago. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. So we've got one for, what is it?

I recorded one for Secret Invasion like, I don't know, like a month before it came out or whatever, whenever I recorded it. I guess that finishes this week. Yep. So you might hear that. But I think that's pretty much it. I don't think there's anything else that we've pre-recorded.

But, yeah, I did check because we're like, well, this is a big week for reviewing movies. And if they were like, you can't review anything, we're like, well, what are we going to do? Also, we're going to recommend that nobody goes to the cinema ever again yeah solidarity yeah that's not us though no that's right because we like going to the movies yeah yeah oh and also it'd be nice if the cinemas were empty oh so busy this way out right so busy oh my god i snuck in because i was like i'm gonna see barbie wednesday night and then i'm gonna see oppenheimer Thursday night.

Barbie got in by the skin of my teeth. Yep. One seat by itself and I'm like, whew. Absolutely. Thank God they didn't have more friends and I have no friends. Aquaman 2 is going in for its third round of reshoots. Oh, no. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it might be.

This time it seems to be. So originally, spoiler alert for the thing that's not going to happen, it was going to feature Michael Keaton in a Nick Fury type role. That's right. Because we talked about this, the original idea was they needed a linchpin for the DC EU before Gunn came in. That's right. Peter Safran.

A gun. A gun. That's the linchpin of the DC universe, just a gun. Just a gun. And not an important gun. Not like the gun that shot Batman's parents. Just a gun they found. Yeah, that's right.

That's cool, they always say. That's right. Damn. So then they reshot and we saw this because- Bang. Very good. Ben Affleck was put in. Yes.

Because if you remember, the ending of The Flash originally was going to be Ben Affleck was stuck in the multiverse or whatever. Oh, was it? There was even an image of that surfaced online where he's like, Barry, you've got to say I'm stuck in the multiverse or whatever. But Ben Affleck is gone. Because now it's neither of those things. But they still need some

changes. So this is via THR. After one round of test screenings, new Warner Brothers bosses Michael DeLuca and Pamela Abdi got involved as they were running point on DC until Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav could find a permanent DC boss to replace Hamada. This is before James Gunn. Sources say that in the fall, Abdi took a strong creative stance

and got involved in the editing of one cut. However, when the vision tested, it scored lower than the previous version and this led to another round of reshoots. No. Now, apparently the reshoots, the last one that happened, they went pretty well and they completed five days of work in four. Okay. So that's good.

But so, and they're saying that it's kind of a mess. I mean, this is early days. Things get fixed all the time. Yeah. You know, every movie has reshoots. This is very normal. And here's something from the article they say, but the fact that Warners is willing to keep spending money

to make the film better shows the studio has faith in the lost kingdom. Or it's that kind of like sunk cost situation. It's panic editing, I think. It sounds a little like panic editing. They're like, it sounds like somebody's gone in the room and gone to see how well the Flash did. Not well.

We're going to fix this. We're taking out all the Batman. What's the opposite? What's the opposite? Well, I mean, Batman's in the sky. Water's still good. Water's still good. Okay.

What else can we do? Like I think it's very much a case of like what did The Flash do wrong? We're going to take all that out. We're going to put in new stuff when it's just a case of have you poisoned your brand entirely or is it you know do people remember aquaman one fondly yeah probably do you think this aquaman movie is going to be set in the new dcu with superman legacy and they're just going to leave everything as it was so the flash is going to stay in whatever situation occurred there yeah i think they're going to move forward yeah and so aquaman 2 will just be like this is the dcu aquaman i think so yeah yeah and they'll they'll say that or they just won't mention it i think they won't mention

it yeah cool i think i if i based on the reaction to the flash i reckon they do not want to touch multiverse stuff ever again and they shouldn't no i think they should because they fucked it they really did i think they're just i think they should. Because they fucked it. They really did. I think they just, I think he might just pick himself up from that alley that he was in. Yeah. And just start Aquaman 2. Sure. And they just won't bring it up again.

Absolutely. Or maybe. Maybe they'll set it entirely in the alley. No, it's in the alley at the start. Yeah. And it cuts and it's like, it starts and he's in a puddle. Uh-huh. And then Barry goes, oh, no, he actually drowned.

He drank too much alcohol and he really drowned. And then it fades to black and then it goes, meanwhile, in a similar but other universe. Oh, wow. And then it cuts to Aquaman in another universe. And he's at his doctor's office and the doctor's like, you better quit drinking, Aquaman. Yeah.

Your liver's gone to hell. It's cactus, mate. It's absolutely cactus. So off the back of that getting reshoots, Blue Beetle has been denied two days of reshoots. Oh, because they blew the budget. No, it's because according to Box Office Pro, it's going to make between $12 and $17 million

in its US opening weekend. That seems low. And at the top, its domestic run would be $55 million. And that is at the top. its domestic run would be $55 million. And that is at the top. The low is $27. So everybody is thinking that no matter what Blue Beetle is, it's going to bomb. So it could be incredible and it's still going to bomb.

It'll do okay on DVD. Just kidding. Just kidding. They'll never press one. Oh, my God. The budget of this is $120 million. Oh, my God. That's not insane. It's pretty bad. I mean, for that, that's really bad. just kidding they'll never press one oh my god the budget of this is 120 million dollars oh my god that's not insane but

it's pretty bad I mean for that that's really bad I thought it was going to be like 80 that's bad I don't know who would think that's good god damn anyway it's the first movie in the DC you get excited I think it looks alright like genuinely

but that's not a promotion I wish they hadn't given so much away in the trailer. That is a promotion. They paid me. DC paid me to be like, listen, we made a mistake. Everything you want to see is in the trailer. That's right. Yeah.

He's going to fight a red-blue beetle. Yeah. Man. Let's move it along to another bit of news. Let's get out of this DC ditch that we're stuck in. Okay. DC ditch is a good name for upcoming DC news though. That's fun. It is, isn't it?

So Variety are saying that a movie based off the Masters of the Universe toy line has been shelved at Netflix. So apparently Netflix have spent $30 million on this project already. Right, so they've done they did a She-Ra series. Yep.

They did Masters of the Universe Revelation. And there's another more kid-friendly one as well. project already right so they've done they did they did a shira series yep they did masters universe revelation there's another more kid-friendly oh there's another one as well so they've done three already and this was going to be a live action live action okay but this is off the table now yeah okay it's gone so other knowledgeable sources estimate all in cost for development at twice that figure 60 million dollars is a lot for nothing sure is you know not even one piece of concept art. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there is concept art, but they even cast, there was two different He-Men

at one point. They went, Noah sent the Adam guy or whatever. It was in Black Adam. Noah send something. He was the Adam. Adam Smasher. Adam Smasher. Oh, okay.

Yeah, he's charming. Yeah, he could have been. So he would have been, was he going to be He-Man or Prince Adam? He was He-Man and then another guy and then he left and then they got another guy. Okay, so they weren't two sides of the same character. They were separate. Two big men.

Okay, right, right. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. It hasn't happened yet, but we talked about Masters of the Universe last week, the original movie. That's right. And I make a comment which some people might perceive to be inflammatory about the character of He-Man. Oh, yes.

And his orientation. And his pink shirts and his furry pants. I'm waiting for it to get... By the way, I just want to point out, not derogatory, just a fact. Okay. All right? And I'm just waiting for that to get caught in the algorithm.

Oh, yeah. And that's going to just come back at me like a big wave. Of people who are not our viewers or listeners but like Hey Man a lot. Yes. But in a specific way they like Hey Man. They like him and they're angry about it. Yes.

Yeah, those guys. Yeah, we've met them. We've met them. So that's going to roll back our way, Mason. Yeah, get ready for it. Right. Here we go, though. Trailers ahoy.

Whoa, that dog's barking. That must be the boat that we bring in every week. Yeah. We do do a big stunt. We bring a big tugboat in every week. That's exactly right. And we make them deliver the trailers. That's right.

One was for the Marvels. And it's just they show their phone to us with the trailers on it, and we go, oh, yeah, well, look at that. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, yeah, my uncle was just giving it to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually already watched this one, but thank you anyway.

Yeah, I mean, you've been away in sea for like three weeks, so I've seen this already. So thanks for nothing in a way. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah. So the Marvels, it's mostly the same kind of trailer. Yeah, it is, yeah. I mean, I don't think it really tells us anything we already know,

we don't already know, rather, except for the villain is there. Oh, yeah, and it's the new Ronan. Yeah, the new accuser. Yeah, but not Ronan. Yes. Yeah, not Ronan. So, yeah, it could be fun. It actually does look fun.

Yeah, yeah. Obviously, when things go too woke, they go broke, and we might be seeing that even this week, Mason. Oh, my God. You know? What do you mean? mean no it's because Barbie's doing really well it's the opposite

it's almost as if that doesn't mean anything it's almost as if that is completely sometimes movies just don't do well yeah sometimes

people will say oh that movie didn't do well because it's woke and then you can very easily point to another really obvious reason why it didn't do well

yeah but it's the other thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there wasn't a good Terminator movie for 25 years and then they made the one that was pretty good. Yeah. I agree.

Terminator Genisys. Yeah. I mean, speaking of. What? Jason Clarke. Jason Clarke, yeah. He's going to be in that movie. My God.

What a cavalcade of mid to high actors. Oh, from anywhere. I know. The mayor from Buffy. Who's going to pop up. Oh, from anywhere. I know. The mayor from Buffy. Who's going to pop up? Oh, my God. Who's going to pop up, Mason? Right?

The safe cracker from Zack Snyder's zombie movie? That guy? He's in it for a minute? Right? Good Lord. We'll talk about it. Yeah. Also, there was a trailer for Invincible Season 2.

That's right. It finally has a date. Now, there's going to be eight episodes, and they're breaking into two parts. Yeah. The first four are going to be on November 3rd, a date. Now there's going to be eight episodes and they're breaking into two parts. Yeah. The first four are going to be on November 3rd, 2023 and then there's going to be one in November, sorry, and then the rest in 2024. That's right. But there's also, they surprise dropped an Invincible

Atom Eve Origin episode. They did, which is on Amazon Prime right now. I haven't watched it. Just watch it. I won't watch it. Wow. I mean, I'll watch it, but I haven't watched it yet. Yeah, nice. Do you watch it? I haven't watched it yet, no. How long is it? Are you looking. I mean, I'll watch it, but I haven't watched it yet. Yeah, nice. Do you watch it? I haven't watched it yet, no. How long is it?

Are you looking at it now? I'm looking at it right now. Let's find out by clicking it, which I have done, believe it or not. I'd get the boat to bring that in, actually. Oh, yeah. Your video is playing using mobile data. I know. Oh, it's using your mobile data.

Get out of here. I can't see how long. 55 minutes. Whoa. I wonder if a lot of them are that long. Maybe. Because I'm the eight, so maybe it is. What's the bloody bargain?

Apparently they planned ahead, so I don't think we're going to get that big a gap between this and season three. Yeah. Also speaking of. Oh, yeah, mate? One of the trailers for Mortal Kombat 1 dropped. Oh. The combat pack.

I was going to talk about that in another section, but we can do that now. Yeah, we can do that now, because it's related. I just hate how this is just meticulously planned. It's like when you go to a fancy restaurant, and everything's in a particular... Like the bear. It's like a fancy restaurant in that you've written on it. You've written on a table

napkin with crayon. There, that's how you've built that. But anyway, the trailer for the combat... I need more juice. The expanded roster for Mortal Kombat 1. And, you know, in the past they've done a bunch of – it's always sort of vaguely themed, so it'll be like Robocop and the Terminator and Rambo, et cetera.

But this time around it's just like jerks. It's like super-powered jerks. Jerk combat. So it's Omni-Man from Invincible. It's Peacemaker. That was a surprise. And it's Homelander from invincible yep uh it's peacemaker that was a surprise and it's homelander from the boys three jerks three jerks right peacemaker is probably the least jerk yeah in a way yeah he's a reformed jerk in a lot of ways yeah wow that's cool man yeah well let's talk about that because comic con happened oh yes just a few announcements that we

can talk about uh one was the next two animated DC movies are Justice League Crisis on Infinite Earths. Does that mean they're going to bring together all the different super people that we've seen from different universes? Yeah, maybe. Or maybe we're going to do. We told you to stay away from the multiverse, DC. What were you thinking, DC?

We warned you. God damn. I wonder if it's going to be sort of a reward for everybody who's sort of seen all the modern-ish. Through the New 52. Yeah, all those ones. And, you know, there's War World ones and there's kind of, they've done I think a Gotham by.

Injustice. Yeah, Gotham by Gaslight and all that sort of stuff. I wonder if it's going to be. There's Rude ones. Yeah. Batman Ninja. Exactly. Yes, exactly.

I think it might be a Crisis on Infinite Earths, but not like, not an adaptation of the 80s one. No. But like. Because that one's bad. No, I like it. Yeah, but it's bad. Yeah, no, it is.

But like a modern adaptation using all the newer stuff that they've created. I think that could work very well, yeah. Or maybe just whatever. Or maybe it's whatever. Now another thing that they're – It's whatever. They can get the rights for it, whoever's available to do the voices. I love that.

How about this then? What about a Watchmen animated movie? Wow. I mean, do we need that considering we had the Watchmen motion comic where that one guy did all the voices including all the girl voices? That was good, wasn't it? Yeah. That's interesting because they've done the pirate stuff already.

They animated it. That's true, yeah. Are they going to just slot that in or are they going to redo it or not do it at all? They're going to redo the whole thing already. Yeah? Okay. How do you feel about that? How does Alan Moore feel about that?

I don't know, but I really hope a bunch of people interview him and are like, what do you think about this? And he's like, what do you think I think about this? Come on. Yeah, man. I love that. It's great. You know it was a big time for Comic-Con this year.

People who make those big suits where they look really big in them, they put on stilts and they're quite light and hollow. I saw a really good I saw an Apocalypse. I saw a Rhino from the new Spider-Man game. Looking good, man. You often see a Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine guy.

It's good because of the tiny head. Yeah, that's right. I think they're fun. How do you feel about Watchmen Animated? I don't think I even need to see that. I've seen it multiple times. I've seen it multiple times. I've read it multiple times. I've seen different versions of it.

I guess I would like to see the Dave Gibbons art translated to animation like properly as opposed to. The killing joke? Which was just like. The killing joke. Which will be part of Crisis on Infinite Earths. Oh, my God. But as opposed to, you know, the motion comic where it was just animation in the loosest possible sense.

So I guess I would like to see that animated. Yeah. But I don't need to say, I guess maybe just a short film as opposed to... A long film? I don't need a whole series, really. I don't know if it is a series. Oh, maybe it's a movie.

Maybe it's a movie, yeah. Anyway, we talked about Mortal Kombat 1. That would have slotted in there beautifully. Well, now there's a big gaping hole. Agreed. Real awkward transition from whatever we're Well, now there's a big gaping hole. Agreed. Real awkward transition from whatever we're talking about now to whatever we're talking about next. Harley Quinn Season 4 trailer?

God, what a horrible handbrake turn you've just done there. That was awful. I didn't even watch this one because I haven't finished Season 3. Yeah, right. I think what is notable about this one, and it looks delightful, as you might imagine, a bit of fun, a lot of swearing and rudeness, but my favorite part about the trailer was one of the new villains in this season is Snowflame, who is a DC villain famous

for getting his powers from doing a lot of cocaine. Sick. Yeah, so that's cool. What kind of powers? Like super strength or whatever. Unearned confidence? Unearned confidence, that's right. Telling you about his start-up.

But really close to your ear? I've got an idea for an app! God. Unearned Confidence. Unearned Confidence, that's right. Telling you about his start-up. But really close to your ear. I've got an idea for an app. God, dude. And lastly, we got a look at Spider-Man. There was so much stuff, but Spider-Man 2 footage on the PlayStation 5. Oh, right, okay. Oh, the story trailer. Yes, we got that.

The debut of Harry Osborn? Yes. Yeah, right. And he goes, well, I'm back. Yeah, that's right. I hope I don't get turned into Venom or whatever. He's my best friend I've never mentioned. Yeah. Here he is.

No, they mentioned him in the previous game. They mentioned him quite a bit and they're talking about how he went to Europe and he's sick, but he's not really sick because, spoiler alert, for the end of that game, there's a reveal. I'm not going to spoil it. Mason? Yes? Should we move on to the next segment of the show, the movie reviews?

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So we might kick things off with Oppenheimer. Oh, yes. And then we'll go to a different movie afterwards. Okay. After our spate of crushing depression. That's right. Then Oppenheimer. Oh, yes. And then we'll go to a different movie afterwards. Okay, after our spate of crushing depression. That's right. Then Oppenheimer. We're in the depression right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in the depression now before we talk about the movie. Then Oppenheimer.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then maybe a little bit more depression after that. Yeah, that's right. Just a bookend. Oh, sure. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here we go, Mason.

On a budget of $100 million, money well spent, I feel. Well, Christopher Nolan has talked about how, like, if there's any CGI in this, I will throw you off a bridge. That's right. Yeah. You see him in interviews. He's having fun, isn't he? He seems to be having fun.

There's a very fun, speaking of autocomplete interviews, there's a Robert Downey Jr. He's been a goof. Christopher Nolan. He's in the chair the wrong way at one point. Yeah, right? Yeah. Robert Downey Jr., not Christopher Nolan.

He would never. There's only one way to sit in a chair, and it's one foot over the knee. Right? Yeah. Robert Downey Jr., not. He would never. There's only one way to sit in a chair, and it's one foot over the knee. Also, very wise call getting Robert Downey Jr. and not Cillian Murphy in that role. Yeah. Although Cillian Murphy some years ago did a very good iconic roles video where he went through all these,

you know, 28 Days Later and Peaky Blinders and so forth. And that was very nice and insightful, but it wasn't wacky. No, it doesn't do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, budget of $100 million. At the box office on its US opening weekend, it's going to make around $77 million and also $90 million internationally.

It's going to bring in around $165 million. Now, I just want to point out, like, this is second to Barbie in, like, a long way. But this is, like, this is a big deal. This is a big deal. Especially considering is like, this is a big deal. This is a big deal. Especially considering like, it's good numbers considering it's a really long run time. It's got a very specific audience.

It is twice the run time of Barbie. Twice the run time. Oh, Barbie's about two hours. So it's about an hour longer than that. It skews probably a bit older and that's also like the rating of that alone. So it's interesting that a movie like this can be so big. And it's also interesting that when you look at the movies

that have done well this year, when you look at Guardians, when you look at Spider-Verse, when you look at this, when you look at Barbie, it's almost as if you bring in people with a specific creative vision and you allow them to make a version of something they're passionate about. Yeah, that's true. And you pay them properly. Yeah.

The result of that might be a thing that then brings you more money to the studio. It's just something to think about. Sure. That's to anybody. I'm just throwing that out there to the universe. Yeah, what was I going to say? Also, you know, for $100 million, that's a bargain when you factor in

just start power alone in this movie. Everybody's in this movie. We're going to rattle that off. Yeah. But I don't want you to miss out on telling us what you think the story was. Here we go. Yeah. Let's do a wacky take on the development of the atomic bomb.

Here we go. Bit of fun. Yeah. Let's have a bit of a muck about. Did you like the bit where he turned back to the guy who made him make the atomic bomb, Matt Damon, after it went off and he went, Big enough for you, bitch. That's right.

What did you think about that bit? I loved that. I thought that was cool. It was cool. It was very cool. They've taken some creative liberties there. Yeah, that's right. He didn't call him a bitch in the original real life thing.

He said something racist because that would have been the style at the time. That was the time, yeah. Anyway, go on. Oh, anyway, okay. So this is based on a book and it's a biography of one, J. Robert Oppenheimer, the creator of the atomic bomb, or the man behind the development of it, I should say, and his various escapades and being a rotten bloke.

The conflict? The conflict. Yeah. And I think it's a very compelling watch. It is. Three hours. Now, Robert Downey Jr. called it the best movie that he's ever been in. Wow.

Is he a liar? Well. I think it's one of his best performances. Yeah, I mean, in Doolittle, he pulls a set of bagpipes out of the butt of a dragon. Yeah, but you've got to think about this. Have you seen that movie? Yeah, but what I think is interesting about Oppenheimer is he pulls an even bigger set of bagpipes out of an even bigger dragon. big enough for your bitch but he doesn't say bitch that's

right he said something racist yeah that's right um now what's interesting about this movie is i also found like super compelling and i've seen a criticism of this and also i think this can also be taken as a credit to like to the construction of this and you know the way that christopher nolan has put together this story is that a lot of this is just men sitting in rooms just asking each other questions there is it's just that nothing happens in this like i mean i say nothing happens in this movie uh two cities are reduced to rubble by atomic bombs. Yes. But you never see that. No. And there is no action in this movie. There is not even a scene where two scientists get up to scuffle over disagreements over science and Oppenheimer's like,

gentlemen, there's no time for scuffling. It's time to do a big science. I bet Hitler's scientists probably are doing a big scuffle. I reckon they would be. Gentlemen. I reckon they would be. He wouldn't say gentlemen, though. No.

He would say bitch. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So, no, I found this. I really enjoyed this. I mean, when it ended and I left, I was like, oh, I feel bad. Right. But not in a way that like, wow, what a terrible movie.

But I'm like, wow, that made me think about a lot of things and I will continue to think about that probably for a long time afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just it really does stick with you and I just think, isn't it nice when movies are just about things, you know? Yeah. You know? The movie that I would liken this most to that I've seen recently is Tar,

which is the Todd Field movie starring Cate Blanchett where she plays just a rotten person. Like she's not the worst person in the world, but she is certainly not good by any stretch of the imagination. She's stuck in that tar pit. That would make anybody cranky. I'm trying to – Wave the baton?

Yeah, wave the baton. I'm trying to conduct I'm trying to. Wave the baton? Yeah, wave the baton. I'm trying to conduct a symphony here. But, yeah, it's just about a very complicated individual. Yeah. And some choices that he made. And, you know, I mean, some experts would certainly need to weigh in. But I get the impression that the portrayal of Oppenheimer in this is for the most part quite accurate, but it's the Christopher Nolan,

the method of creating this movie means that some aspects of his life are very heavily emphasised and some aren't. So this movie, like some other Christopher, we were wondering before this movie came out, what is the Chris Nolan-ness of this movie going to be? Yeah. What element of time bending or? Does Bane show up?

Does Bane show up? Exactly. Yeah. You know, and he does. Yeah, he does. Yeah, that's right. He's Mexican and it's set in Los Alamos. Exactly.

It's a prequel to The Dark Knight Rises. That's exactly right. But the way they do that is this movie is set in at least a couple of distinct time periods. It's set in the years leading up to World War II, World War II and the immediate aftermath. It's probably broken three ways. Yeah.

That's fairly even, but then there's another element to it. And then there's a time period like a decade-ish later where his and it's set in the 50s during kind of the time of the House Un-American Activities Commission. Yeah. I didn't know any of that was going to be in this, by the way. No, neither did I. I had no idea about the structure of this.

And at this point Oppenheimer's security clearance with the American government is under review. Yeah. And in addition another person related to him is eyeing a sort of very important position within the government and they're being questioned. Yeah, in relation to him. In relation to him, yeah.

And so there's that whole segment. But also some of the movie is in colour and some of it is in black and white. And I got an inkling during the movie, I'm like, okay, and this is like memento. Yeah. I'm like, okay, what I think is happening is that the stuff in black and white is what is either a matter of public record or what is generally considered to be by most people as to what actually happened,

whereas the stuff in colour is from Oppenheimer's perspective. That's what I thought it was initially until the black and white part. It's revealed at the end that it's, I guess this is a spoiler, so I won't say exactly what it is, but it is from a very specific person's perspective. That's how I interpret it anyway. I really, because I've found that like. Which is all to say that my point earlier was that, you know,

there are elements to this where you might question, okay, well why didn't we see this? Or this sort of sprang up out of nowhere. Or we never consider this particular group of people. Or we never consider, you know, what these actions had on other certain people. And the answer is because these are from Oppenheimer's perspective and he just didn't think about it. No, exactly.

Or he starts to think about it after the thing happens. Yeah, right. You know, but by then it's kind of he's in a different point in his life. And I think it's a really interesting perspective because I think it's more effective the way that they keep it it like mostly centered around him so when you hear about the bombs going off in japan you see there is not a japanese person in this movie like that perspective is not is not looked at at all and i think that works very well from like you know because he gets to distance himself from that and so do people associated with the bomb for a time yes until they start to think about like what does this mean in relation to what we have

done here and what does that mean for the world going forward for so much of it it's it is sort of abstract it's all we're where we're firing this stuff up in the particle accelerator when we're creating the plutonium and blah blah and then you know they like they would in that time they just heard about it on the radio or yeah that's right paper and then you you know, like they would in that time, they just heard about it on the radio or in the paper. And then, you know, you see all these people react. Some people are immediately struck with what they've done and some people are, you know, they just are like, well, it's just numbers, it's just numbers.

And some people are just over the moon, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was really interesting and I didn't think it was ever going to go this way where they didn't make him like an ADHD, like autistic, like fast-talking genius. A beautiful mind. Yeah, a beautiful mind. He doesn't understand social cues. And I never thought it was going to go that way.

But it was nice to see a man like portrayed in this way. A womanizer. It was nice to see that, James. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like he's just a dog. And like he's conflicted and he's complicated and he does have his, his good qualities, you know,

but he's also wrong a lot about the area that he's in. So he's like, he's overseeing. He pronounces it. You kill up, for example, like he's overseeing the building of the bomb, but there are multiple times in this movie where he,

he has a hypothesis or an idea is like, he throws out an idea and he's wrong and he'll take the idea of somebody else. So he's not the – it very clearly goes out of its way to show that he is kind of – he is the developer of this, but it's not a singular mind behind this. And I think it very easily could have been like this is the guy who did it like on its own.

But it is like – it's literally decades of him meeting people and interacting with people and experimenting and working in conjunction with others that made this happen. Cheating on his wife. And cheating on his wife multiple times that kind of got them to this point. And I thought that was really interesting where they're kind of barreling towards this inevitability because you obviously, you know what happens in real life. What happens? What happens in real life?

It's a terrible, you know, whatever. And you know what happens in real life. What happens? What happens in real life? Terrible, you know, whatever. And you know what becomes of the world afterwards. Yeah. And there's like for a lot of this, it's kind of this triumphant thing that they're moving towards and they're racing against the clock because they're pretty sure Germany is also developing a bomb at the same time. And then it gets to the point where Germany, you know, they retire.

They step out of the war mason. Oh, sure. And then they just decide to go, I guess we're going to, we have to use this anyway. And it's just like, it's, I just found it really complicated. Yeah, I think we'll have to talk about it in spoilers, but I think, you know, people will talk about how, how do you display evil on screen.

Yeah. And there's some elements and there's just some, it's not about, you know, they don't, we don't pick, we don't see Oppenheimer with devil horns and all the fire behind it, but there are some lines of dialogue from characters in this movie where you go, oh, this is just a – not Oppenheimer necessarily, but just a character where you go, oh, you're a monster. And he's just a casual phrase you'll say. And you go, oh, that's okay.

Yeah. You are callous and unfeeling and you're going to blow a city up. Yeah. Do you want to talk about the actual explosion in itself? Because for me, I thought that was going to be like one of the most compelling elements of this movie. But for me, and look, to be fair, I didn't see this on IMAX, but I didn't, I don't know.

The way they've hidden how they've done this, right? They've done it practically and they've cut together a lot of different elements of the explosion. And we don't know the specifics, but basically they've taken like IMAX footage of a miniaturized like event happening and cut it together with larger explosions. And we don't really know and different kinds of things happening and weaving that in with like reaction times, people reacting to the nuclear test.

Right. Okay. And I, and sitting in the cinemas, I was kind of, it kind of disorientated me because I'm like, I'm not sure what exactly I'm looking at, how big this is supposed to be.

But what I thought was interesting is that's supposed to be intentional. You're supposed to be confused by the scale of what you're looking at. Yeah, right. As I guess if you saw that for the first time, you don't know what's going to happen. You don't know what is happening. Right. Oh, you're right.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, I don't think anything about this movie was done accidentally. No, exactly. Any choice in this whether something was included or excluded or whatever, it's like, well, Nolan, he did that on purpose. And I think there's some interviews where Nolan was like, this is going to – it's implied that like the explosion is going to like

you're going to feel it. And I think he just lied about that. I think that was maybe like a get bumps in seats situation. Look, I definitely went out of this, you know, with a lot of thoughts. But I wasn't thinking about that. No, that's right. I mean the moment that I felt was most affecting was, I think, probably post that where he's in – Oppenheimer is in a room with all the –

I think it's the – The people who work with him, yeah. The Los Alamos team and everybody's cheering and everybody's stamping their feet and everything's – like that was way more – Same, yeah. Because it's like everybody's like rapturous with victory and they've done this and he's just.

He looks like he's going to die. He looks like he's going to die and you just see him sort of just looking around and it feels like a man having a panic attack. Yeah. You know? I thought that was really interesting because as opposed to seeing like the gore, and I know there's been some clips that goes around, that have gone around this week, And there's a particular animation.

I can't remember the name of it, but you've probably seen the clip. It's an anime and you see the nuclear blast and it's just like eviscerating people and children, their eyeballs like melting out of their sockets. And there's none of that in this. I thought you were talking about that end of the world flash animation. Remember from like the early 2000s? Sure, yes. It's very similar to that.

Fire the missiles, but I am retired. You know that one? Yeah, that happened in the fire the missiles. Yes, I remember that. Yeah, yeah. But it's like the horror of it is like moments like that and there's like split seconds where he's looking at a woman and it looks like her skin is kind of shedding off her face

or whatever, but that's really the extent of it. It's just like light and noise and you're disorientated and he looks like he's going to vomit and that's the horrendous element of it. It's just like light and noise and you're disorientated and he looks like he's going to vomit. And that's the kind of horrendous element of it. And I think that is, that was very effective, I found. You know, I thought it was interesting. What's that? There's some pretty humorous lines in this. Often just very dark though. Like at the same time, just like an absolute, like it's almost like this farcical kind of like indifference at

times. I mean, Nolan doesn't get enough credit for being funny. Pretty funny, yeah. He's funny. I mean, there's, you know, if you think back on almost any of his movies, there are just some dry funny lines. You know? Michael Caine.

Michael Caine. Yeah. You know? There's a bit in the trailer where Matt Damon's like, this is the most important thing to happen in the history of the world. I remember seeing that being like, settle down, calm down. But within the movie, that's a funny scene because there's a scientist and he's like, oh, I don't know, why should I help build the bomb? And he's like, I don't fucking know.

Maybe it's the most important thing that will ever happen. And it's kind of played like he's just giving this guy an absolute fucking just getting into it. And it's kind of played like yeah like he's just just giving this guy an absolute fucking just just just getting into it yeah and it's quite funny we talk about the cast i mean killian murphy's amazing oh my god yeah he's just to to portray this character over a number of decades yeah like minimal changes to hair and makeup yeah um but just and and running the gamut of kind of. Big suits. Big high-waisted pants. That's right.

Oh, skinny waist. I was like, that's how my grandpa dressed. Right? So the day he died. But just like, you know, he runs the gamut from like, you know, just kind of earnest and just a young buck who thinks he's, you know, just eaten a bit. It's interesting because at the start, like, he's having these visions of, like, things he can't quite understand and he's contemplating the universe, you know, just it's in a bit. It's interesting because at the start, like, he's having these visions of, like, things he can't quite understand and he's contemplating

the universe, you know, and it's when he starts, he's clearly, like, falling apart. And then when he starts talking to people about mathematics and physics and all these kinds of things, that's what kind of gets his mind because he's clearly this brilliant mind, a beautiful mind, if you will. Oh, absolutely. And you see him kind of come into himself from working like through the work that he does and but then how

that then unravels him on the other end yeah right uh-huh yeah anyway sorry go on oh uh i don't know just that's the i mean that's the performance because it's almost all from his perspective yeah he's in almost every scene yeah and just oscarnoms, would you say? I love it. Give him an Oscar nom-nom. Why wouldn't you? Yeah. But I mean, he's got a lot of competition in this movie because there's just so many great... Robert Downey Jr.'s great in this. He's very good, yeah. He's remembered how to act. He certainly has. Well,

didn't he talk about how I did Iron Man for 14 years or whatever it was? Yeah, that's right. He was like, I didn't know if I could actually do this. I saw an interview with him, and maybe it's the same one that you saw, where he's talking about the character that he is in Iron Man is very fast-talking and whatever, and he's very kind of up front about who he is.

But the guy that he plays in this, his charisma is only really used for political gain. And when he's behind closed doors, he's just like, you see him switch it off. Yeah, right, right, right. Florence Pugh is great. Alden Ehrenreich. Alden Ehrenreich's really good.

Because almost all of his scenes are with Robert Downey Jr. And he sort of goes. Oh, my God, it's Iron Man and Han Solo. Oh, my God. That's what I kept saying. That's right. What's Han Solo going to say to what Iron Man just said? You said.

But, yeah, like, he's, you know, he's toe-to-toe with Robert Downey Jr. He was good in Cocaine Bear. He was good in Cocaine Bear. Yeah. And he's good in Hail Caesar. Yep. And he's even good in Solo. He is good in Soloaine Bear. He was good in Cocaine Bear. And he's good in Hail Caesar. Yep. And he's even good in Solo. He is good in Solo.

But, you know, it's just good to see that Nolan and all his casting director was like, let's give this young man another shot. Yeah. This young 40-ish-year-old man. I don't know how old he is. Because he was great in this. Really good. He was really good.

Emily Blunt, Jack Quaid's in this. That's right. Matt Damon, obviously. Rami Malek David Dashmalchian How many incredible movies has that guy been in? All of them I mean a lot of Nolan stuff I was going to say he's also a Nolan a lot

Dane DeHaan, Josh Hartnett's really good in this Great hair And again another guy who he was a young up and coming star and he did a bunch of stuff and then he sort of dropped off the radar a bit. Well, it's interesting because I saw an interview with Christopher Nolan recently, but I remember reading like 10 plus years ago that Josh Hartnett said that he was asked to be Batman.

Christopher Nolan was Batman and he turned it down because he's like, I don't know if I want to do this. And he was more interested in the prestige. But what he said, he realized at the time was what Christopher Nolan was like kind of saying to him was like, if you do this Batmanman thing then this is you know like because christopher nolan worked with bale like multiple times that's true yeah you know probably four times probably is that right yeah the three batmen and the prestige yeah well like you know come with me on this journey and we'll kind of do this together and josh hartnett you know kind of regretted right

from that perspective because he really wanted to work with Christopher Nolan. And now he has. Gary Oldman's in this. Benny Safdie's in it. What's his name? Matthias, what's his name? Schweffhofer. He's the German physicist you meet at the start.

Oh, yeah, right. He's in Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead. Oh, that's right. He's a director as well. Yeah, he's the same director. David Krumholz is in this, unrecognizable. Krumholz is in it. So this is the third 10 things I hate about you alumni that Christopher Nolan has stolen for his movies.

Heath Ledger. And someone else. J.G. Alph. Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Joseph Gordon-Levitt, yeah, exactly. That's right. Who's next? Is it Julia Stiles?

It might be. You know what the funniest part of this movie to me was? What's that? After the bomb went off. Yes. And there's like, there's complete silence as this kind of thing is unfolding. And then you get the noise and the audience like that I'm sitting in. I feel like this movie, we're probably going to say best movie ever or worst movie ever

and then do some spoilers. Yes. But I feel like this isn't a movie you can spoil really. For me, I think there were some things in this historically, which I didn't know. Yeah. So I'm glad I didn't know. Yeah. So I'm glad I didn't know. Like I knew who he was. I knew what he did.

Uh-huh. But beyond that, I didn't know. Like I didn't know about the trials. I didn't know about like his past and his relation

to other political parties which I thought was handled really interestingly in this. Like the kind, I mean, you know, it's a very, I mean,

aside from just the fact that they bring like a nuclear holocaust like into the world. Yes, sure. There is a lot of politics outside of that which plays out. That's true, yeah. Which also then ties in into things later. Anyway, as I was saying, so the bomb goes off.

The audience is completely silent. Most people are just wrapped up in this. I look in front of me and there's a guy with his phone up to his face just doing Pokemon Go. Wow, Pokemon Gymny, your local cinema. I thought you were going to say he was looking up Robert Oppenheimer on Wikipedia. Oh, that's the guy.

Oh, this is the guy. This guy's real. This guy's real. I think also like in a worse movie. Yes. I think it doesn't go out of its way to be like, nobody sits down and goes, the nuclear bomb is bad, which it very clearly is.

Like it's a fucking horrible invention and it should obviously have never happened. It's been nothing but a fucking like blight on humanity. Yes. Since it happened. So I think it's interesting the way that they do a lot of wonder and awe in relation to that technology and the persistence and it is a race because they think that they need

to beat the Germans to this. And there is definitely an argument to be made there where if they hadn't have done this, you know, maybe the Germans would have got to it. Well, they didn't know. The Germans weren't as close as they thought they were and then, of course, it's the idea of, like, did they really need to drop these bombs? Probably not.

Probably not. It turns out in hindsight. But I just think. Oh, Sean, YouTuber. Oh, got a great video on that. Has a great video on that specifically. On the dropping of the bomb, yeah. And, you know, and not only that, where it's like,

like, why would you drop two? He would be the person, I think, to ask about how accurate this is to – Yes. Because he did – I think he did a lot of research on Oppenheimer before his video. I think I'm going to watch that again actually. Yeah.

And I think, again, it does – this movie does I think a pretty good job. If you assume this is from the perspective of Oppenheimer, this does a good job I, of exploring his thought process in terms of whether he thought various things were important. Yeah. Or, you know, why he did certain things. So, you know, there's an element to this where he is pretty much all for it. Yeah.

And then it's only in the aftermath that he changes his mind about and gets kind of weepy about it, if you will, kind of thing. Let's talk about that. Let's get into spoilers. Okay, I'm going to say best movie ever. I mean, again, I wouldn't say enjoy is the right word. No, that's true, yeah. But I thought this was just a terrifically made movie.

I think if there's an element I didn't like, I thought maybe the Florence Pugh, like the way that was kind of framed and set up was a bit kind of like lecherous. That's probably the first thing I'm going to talk about in spoilers. Yeah, okay. But, yeah, I mean this movie isn't going to win MTV Movie Awards Best Kiss. No.

Or Best Punch or whatever. No. But it's, you know. There's barely a kiss or a punch in this. That's exactly right, yeah. Yeah. Go on. Do you want to say?

Well, we're in spoilers right now. It's time for big time spoilers. Hello. Go on. Do you want to say? Well, we're in spoilers right now. It's time for big time spoilers. Hello. This movie in Australia is rated MA, 15 plus,

for sex scenes and suicide. Yeah. If you take Florence Pugh's character out, doesn't have any of those things. No. Because she's in both of those. Also, she might have been murdered. Oh, I didn't know that.

Isn't there a frame where you see like a hand like holding her in the tub? Oh, I didn't know that. I looked there a frame where you see like a hand like holding her in the tub? Oh, I didn't know that. Because I think there is. I looked into it briefly and there is some discussion about. Oh, right. Because she's a communist or perceived to be a degenerate or whatever. Okay, right. And because she was close to Oppenheimer.

Like there's a character in this played by Casey Affleck. Oh, there's my second spoiler. Yeah. I mean, just if you want to, you know. A spooky performance. Just a man of just a threatening menace, and he's in this movie. That's right, yeah. That was the shocker.

I heard the voice, and I'm like, is Ben Affleck in this? Yeah. And then it turned around, and I'm like, ah. That's not Batman. Yeah. He's only in one scene, and it is very affecting. Yeah, there's a few people like that. Not a great bloke by all accounts.

No, not a great bloke by any standard. But boy, if you want to put a guy in a movie just to be really intense and threatening. Yeah, absolutely. Well, that certainly works. And you see him just run rings around Oppenheimer who's like this genius. What I think is interesting about these particular kind of geniuses

and how most geniuses are, they're not geniuses in all scenarios like this guy is really good at being the worst and intimidating yeah and so you're not you're not ready for that that's true yeah and not everybody can be tony stark nobody can be tony stark anyway i loved the reveal because i didn't know this that lewis strauss played byuss played by Robert Downey Jr. Like he'd orchestrated the whole kind of the backlash against Oppenheimer and the investigation and looking into his communist leanings and how it wasn't this big trial open to the public where he would have garnered public support. They just did it in a little room.

Yeah, they did it in a broom closet or something. And they just rinsed him for days on end. Well, I was going to say as well, like, what I think is interesting is when you think about it, the central plot of the last third of the movie, the stakes are really small in a way because it's just about whether Oppenheimer can get his security clearance and if he can't get it, that's embarrassing to him.

Yeah. Which, you know, leads to the idea of like, well, that's in his mind, that's embarrassing to him. Yeah. Which, you know, leads to the idea of like, well, that's in his mind. This is important to him. Well, I think it's important from the sense that it's interesting because Oppenheimer apparently never came out and was remorseful for what happened here. But every action that he took after the bomb was a step in the direction of nuclear disarmament and also making treaties.

And he realized that, well, it's in the movie, that any bomb that they'd make from, you know, any new bomb they make, and they talk about the hydrogen bomb, they plan to eventually use. These aren't weapons to store. Right. These are weapons to test and use on real people. And he becomes aware of that,

that they were never not going to drop this bomb. Right. Like whatever the scenario was. They were just itching to drop it. And one of the funniest moments in this. And it's very morose. Is when. I'm thinking you alluded to it before.

Where one of the generals is talking about where to drop it. Played by James Remar. That's right. And he's like. Oh let's not drop it on. Kyoto. Kyoto. Because I went. I honeymooned there.

And it's really nice. Yeah. That's right. So it's like. So like hundreds of. Like. Just people saved. Because this guy went there one time. That's exactly right.

Just wild. But he's like, yeah, but that's the thing, like this banality of evil of just like, well, hundreds of thousands of people have got to die. Yeah. But not these ones because I thought the. It was nice. It was nice there.

So it can't be that one. I went there 20 years ago. Yeah. I thought also apparently this meeting happened where he meets with Harry S. Truman, the current president. Not current president, the president then. That's right. And Oppenheimer comes in and he's like.

Current president is Bill Clinton. That's right. He's playing his saxophone. Absolutely right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Oppenheimer's like, he talks about having blood on his hands and Truman's just like, get this fucking loser out of here. Yeah, right.

Get this sad sack out of here. And there's a moment where he's like, what do we do with this facility that we built or whatever? And he's like, give it, I don't know, give it back to the Indians. And he's like, what are you talking about? Like, just like, I think it's really interesting that I think the way that he conducts himself and you, like, Bob and Ima puts on this persona in public and he's, and he's like joshing in hearings and he's kind

of this public hero for this thing that he did. He stopped the war and whatever. But the hearing that he put himself through and he didn't really defend himself, it is this kind of like self-flagellation because he knows that he did a fucking awful thing. And even if it was for a greater good because we don't really know the outcome of what would have happened if it wasn't. Maybe something worse would have happened. Maybe something probably better happened. You know, it seems like he put himself through a lot of this stuff because he fucking hates himself.

Yeah, right. Well, I mean, maybe. And I was also going to say, like, I think one of the criticisms of this movie I saw was that when they built Los Alamos, the testing facility and the development facility, they displaced, like, a bunch of Mexican people who lived there and what have you and that's not in the movie at all. But I think, again, that's because if you're watching this

from the perspective of Oppenheimer, he didn't think about it. He's like, oh, yeah, I know this place. It's nice. Yeah, right, exactly. Maybe we can just build it here, this place that I like. Yeah. And now it's like a permanent army facility or whatever. So Einstein's in this as well.

That's right. Does it take you out of the movie because it's Einstein? A little bit. Yeah, initially it does, I think. I got used to it, yeah. So there's this kind of overarching mystery when you see Oppenheimer talk to Einstein. And then talk to Strauss.

And then talk to Strauss. He's a genius character. And Strauss is adamant that Einstein doesn't like him because of something Oppenheimer said. And he said it by the lake on this particular day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he was basically lining up Oppenheimer to just get him publicly eviscerated. Yeah.

And then at the very end, it's just revealed that the conversation they have, they're not even thinking about Strauss. Like Strauss is so wrapped up in his own political ambitions that it's not about you, man. Yeah, that's right. I think it's a credit to this movie that it has a compelling narrative and it has kind of that mystery to it, that layers and the reveals, given that life often isn't like that and there often isn't. You get to the end and you go, oh, that thing that I was always

thinking about, the reveal is here and now it's very satisfying kind of thing. Just a very ominous reveal. I guess we could thinking about it. The reveal is here and now it's a very satisfying kind of thing. Just a very ominous reveal. I guess we could talk about it. Whereas, you know, there was a threat. There was a small chance that if they set off a bomb, it would ignite the atmosphere and everybody would die. And so it doesn't happen.

Yeah, so that was this. Because, again, they were working in completely uncharted territory and, you know, a nuclear explosion is based on atoms reacting to one another, one atom being. One link in a chain reaction. That's exactly right. Yeah. Whoever wrote that song.

John Farnham. There we go. Love that guy. Yeah, and the fear, there was a small chance that that reaction would never stop once it was started and the atmosphere would ignite and we would all die. Yeah, but it didn't. Yeah.

And we're all right. But are we? But are we? But are we? So, yeah, the final line is like when he's speaking to Einstein, you find out that he's like, well, actually, it feels like there really is something set in motion where we're going to destroy each other with nuclear weapons or whatever. And then you see the world like a, you know.

You see what might be a bunch of missiles launching and the world being consumed by fire. And then it ends. Yeah. And I was like, oh, no, I hope there's a post-credits. Exactly right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But just really ominous. Come join the Avengers.

Why do you, Strauss? Oh, I'm Iron Man. I've switched my acting off. That's how you can tell I'm Iron Man. He's also a very good Iron Man that's very true the idea that I don't like this idea

but I think it is there's a small chance that the world ended when we're all in hell just a small chance I didn't think that's what they were talking about I thought he was saying it's going to be an inevitability we're like this will happen no I thought it was that's what they were talking about. I thought that's exactly what they were talking about. I thought he was saying it's going to be an inevitability. Oh, right.

We're like, this will happen. No, I thought it was they were all in hell. No, I don't know. You're kidding. I thought it was like the chain reaction of bringing nuclear weapons into the world. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Or the hell thing.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do you want some reviews here from some people who have written in? Yes, I would. Also, just one thought I had was right at the start of the movie, and I think it sets a real tone, he's just about to murder one of his professors. Yeah.

He's just poisoned that dude's apple. Nearly killed Kenneth Branagh. That's right. Of all people. My goodness. My goodness, yeah. I think I can do it all. He can be a bad billionaire in Tenet.

Yep. He can be a nice fella. He can be a guy in Dunkirk. That's right. He was a real guy also. I should watch Dunkirk again. Yeah. I think I was really tired when I watched it.

Okay. All right, this is from Nate who says, just saw Oppenheimer in IMAX and now I am become deaf. Because it would have been very loud. Very loud. You know what? I appreciate it. I don't know if Nolan.

Do you want to hear about the audio? Yes. I don't know if Nolan listened or he just decided to go a different way. Or he decided to listen. Yeah, maybe he decided to listen. To his movies. Yes, that's right. It was nice that I could hear all the dialogue.

Yeah. Because, my God, if I couldn't hear, if the audio mix was the same in this movie as it was in Tenet, I would have left, I think. Well, with so much of this, it hinges on the dialogue. I mean, it's just dialogue, right? Yeah. And there were even moments in this where they name somebody and I'm like, it takes me a second, I'm, it's just dialogue, right? And there were even moments where in this where they name somebody and I'm like,

it takes me a second, I'm like, who are they talking about? Because you have to fucking walk into it, you know? But I think to this film's credit, it's structured so bizarrely. But I think him doing that

for years and maybe not getting it right every time, I know for a lot of people including me, I didn't love Tenet. It was confusing to the point where like,

no, I understand this all works, but I don't care to follow any of this i don't care if they're running backwards down a mountain where while a building explodes upwards or whatever like i don't i don't care that's my jam james uh this one raccoon waymond who says things i didn't know oppenheimer was a bit of a root rat uh he sure was uh looking forward to hearing the winklet planet boys talk about Oppenheimer And his root ratteness Yeah, there's a moment where you find out during it Well, he's having multiple affairs

Yeah, but one of them is just like He was having an affair with this woman Yeah, his husband died And he's just like, yeah Again, from his perspective, he just had that affair And he didn't think about it Didn't think about it And Xavier Stewart says Oppenheimer is long, good

Oscar good, but just too long. So, yeah, fair enough. Do you think this is going to win a bunch of awards? Yes, it should. Also, I don't care. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

Wow, now let's talk about a different movie. Wow. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. Let's talk about Barbie. Okay. On a budget of $145 million, this box office, well, this is very interesting.

It has the biggest u.s opening day of the year at 70 million dollars yeah and it's going to be 150 million dollar u.s opening weekend uh and that's going to be about 300 million worldwide that's huge it's the biggest movie of the year so far i know obviously that will change in the in the next few weeks depending how audiences you know whether they carried or not. I think the biggest movie of the year at the moment is Mario. But, you know, big brands having a big time this year. I mean this might be one, like this might be just a huge opening weekend

and everybody, you know, everybody had a big party time and they all dressed in pink and they went to the cinemas and maybe it'll drop off. But I think, you know. I think it's going to have legs, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I read and I don't know if this is accurate. is this is up there with open in terms of opening weekends this is up there with ms marvel and black panther yes in terms of just like huge openings yeah so if you if you if

you take superhero movies out of the equation this is this is one of the things i think it's really interesting that at the moment i think we're in we're in like a transitional period between a certain type of superhero movies and Disney live-action remakes. We're in the endgame now. Yeah. That's from the movie endgame. Or maybe Infinity War. There was this MCU era, and I think we're now just like,

what's next? Yeah. Because Marvel movies, they're not doing what they used to do. That's true. And now this does $300 million at opening weekend. Big brands forever, I guess. Big brands. For a while.

Girls toys, atomic bombs, just two big brands. My God. What do you think the story was? All right, Barbie. Barbie lives in Barbie land. Yep. She's a Barbie girl. She lives in a Barbie world.

Yeah. Barbie's fantastic. Something plastic. However the song goes. Brush your hair, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then. Yeah. And she lives with all Barbie world. Yeah. I just fancy something plastic, however the song goes. Brush your hair, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then. Yeah.

And she lives with all the other Barbies. Yep. And Kens and so forth. And they're all Barbie. They're all Barbie and Kens. They're all having their own little thing. And Alan's there also. Alan's there also.

Everybody's having a lovely time. But then Barbie's all like, oh, my life. I'm having an existential crisis. I'm having a little existential crisis. Things aren't working as well as they should. And she goes to visit Weird Barbie and Weird Barbie says, well, it's probably something out in the outside, out in the real world.

You've got to go visit the real world. You can get to the real world if you want to and they can get here also. That's exactly right. And you've got to go out and go on a little adventure. And so her and Ken get out there in the real world. Adventure ensues. That's right.

And they have a good time and a bad time sometimes. Oh, wow. As well. Yeah. I really enjoyed this. I enjoyed it too. world adventure ensues that's right and they have a good time and a bad time oh wow as well yeah um i really enjoyed i enjoyed it too what a fun time yeah and also yes it's very funny it's very funny it's not like wall-to-wall gangs no but there's a lot of them yeah but there's a lot of them and i think they all land yeah i don't think i there was a single joke where I was like, ugh. Yeah. Like, it really all worked for me. So director Greta Gerwig, really good choice for this. Again, you take somebody with a very particular, like, idea.

Because this movie, like Oppenheimer, they are very different. Yes. It's about something in the sense that, like, this is a very specific vision. I think there are so many ways that this movie could have just been dreadful. Dreadful. Or nothing. Yeah. Like it's Battleship or it's, I don't know.

Transformers. Transformers. The Emoji movie. It could have been just like, and now there's this Barbie and now there's this Barbie. And also you get that if you want to see different Barbies. There's like a hundred of them or whatever. But I just think the narrative of this is very funny and interesting. You know what this reminded me of?

And I'm not sure if it's just because Will Ferrell was in it, but it felt to me like Anchorman. Just a stupid premise and a stupid adventure and everybody's stupid in it. And it's just a vehicle for... And you know, it's got some meaning behind

it yeah and i i do not doubt that you know for for for people who grew up on barbie yeah and and you know there's there's a there's a particular monologue towards the end of it which i think probably resonates with a lot of people who played with barbie as kids and grew up in a world that was not like barbie's world yeah i think that would you know i think that's really interesting and you know i i think a lot of people in my showing sort of you know it resonated with them and they enjoyed that but not you no i hated it no but i but it was just i just felt like it was just even though i don't know anything about barbie yeah and i don't know anything about the characters or how people played with barbie or what have you yeah it seemed like a just an just

an accurate representation of that and also just dumb. So it's a dumb, smart movie. It absolutely is. I think the Anchorman, that's a really good comparison. It felt very kind of sharp but also just put a bunch of stupid characters in the world and see how they react to that world. I thought that was really interesting. And you know what was also good?

Yeah. The trailer doesn't show the entire movie. No, this went directions that I didn't know and it's funnier than I thought it was going to be. Absolutely, yeah. I also think that like, I think I've seen people mention like the aesthetic of this. It's really interesting, but at the same time,

isn't it just Barbie stuff but big? Because everything in the world of Barbie Land, they're real world toys or, I mean like the sets. Yeah. As in everything in the world of barbie land they're real world toys or i mean like the sets yeah as in like in the vehicles they're real they're things from the toys that they make yeah big but i think and they built them for real it's all real and apparently at one point they ran out of pink i don't know california ran out of pink paint or something because they used up all the pink paint i think think also just being like it's just the toys but big is selling it short because doing that, this could look like shit.

Absolutely. And also, that's cool. Here's two things that are cool. Really small things that have been made really big and really big things that have been made really small. Yeah, man. Incredible. I love that sort of stuff.

I think also it balances. I mean, Ant-Man, Quantumania, and all the standing. Yeah. Didn't nail that, man. Incredible. I love that sort of stuff. I think also it balances. I mean, Ant-Man, Quantumania, and all the standing. Yeah. Didn't nail that, really. No, it didn't. No. But otherwise. I think it also balances the way that different people experience Barbie growing up.

Because even characters within this movie, they react differently to seeing Barbie in the real world. There is that element of that like this is an inspirational character and this is aspirational to me because Barbie to me and all the Barbies believe this. Yes. That they are actually showing women that you can be and do anything. Yes. Which is incredible. Like imagine if you were a pilot or an engineer or president or whatever.

But on the flip side of that, a bunch of people are just like this is fucking unattainable and awful and fake. or an engineer or president or whatever. But on the flip side of that, a bunch of people are just like, this is fucking unattainable and awful and fake. And Barbie is like, you know, she is Margot Robbie. She is like perfectly thin and tall and blonde. And I'm none of those things. And everything she does is effortless and wonderful. And she always has the perfect outfit. And in the real world, everything gets in the way of that.

You know, genetics and money and, you know. The way the world is structured. The way the world is structured. Exactly, yeah. I thought that was really interesting where it does, because I know like Claire, who hasn't seen this movie yet, my wife, she's more on that kind of thing as a kid. They're just like, I don't, this isn't my kind of thing.

Interesting. I'm not, this isn't me and I don't like it. Her favourite toy as a child was disgusting grub dolls. That's right. They're just like you was the tagline. Put them in the mud. That's right. Leave them in the mud.

Put them in the mud where you live. Yeah, I mean, so, I mean, not to get too deep into the plot without spoilers, but so Barbie and Ken decide to go, look, and the mechanics of the barbie world and how i love that they just go doesn't really matter it's not important it doesn't it doesn't matter no i also i don't care that barbie land is real and there's also the real world and how do you get in between them i don't give a shit i don't need an explanation of different realms and portals and a magic spell and a ghost or whatever it Because it's Anchorman. Yeah, exactly. In Anchorman, there's no need to explain why all the different news teams

show up in an alley and fight each other. It's not important. Exactly. There's a pre-existing beef we don't have to think about. But so Barbie and Ken go to the real world, and what Barbie discovers, or what they both discover, is that the real world is nothing like that anticipated. Yeah.

But where Barbie finds that that is quite confronting, Ken is like, oh, this is rad as hell. Yeah. You know, their expectations. He gets caught up in the manosphere of it all. Yeah, that's exactly right, yeah. Which I quite enjoyed. Yeah.

I think, I mean, Margot Robbie's great as Barbie and I think, like, she's funny but on the back end of this, she's just falling apart, and she does that really well. She does some genuinely, like, really good, like, emotional moments in this and just up close of her face and, like, crying and feeling emotion and, like, experiencing things for the first time and the wonder and the shock of it. Just killed it, genuinely, really good.

And Ryan Gosling is very funny in this as well. Absolutely, yeah. Maybe his funniest thing he's done? Probably. Yeah. He's just very funny. What I like about, and this will probably be a criticism where all the Kens in this, they're all kind of portrayed as like stupid and vapid and they're basically in the service

of Barbie because that's what Ken the figure is. Yes. Because Ken is an afterthought, really. Yeah. and they're basically in the service of Barbie because that's what Ken the figure is. Because Ken is an afterthought, really. Girls who had Barbie would have 10 Barbies and maybe a Ken. Maybe a Ken, yeah. But what I feel like, and you mentioned this, where everybody in this movie is a moron. Like all the Barbies think that what they're doing is definitively good

and they've changed the world forever for good and the real world is fixed and they are happy with the work that they have done when it's like the real world is the real world, you know? And I just thought that was just the dynamic of all that was really interesting. Yeah, like, you know, we shan't be dwelling on it, but I've seen some reviews that were like, well, this movie's anti-man.

I don't think so. It's not even anti-kem. No. It's just they're having a relatively stakes-free adventure, you know? And also like- What happens in this movie, none of it's really anybody's fault. It's also like- It's like saying John Wick 4 is anti-men because some of the men in it are bad.

That is anti-men. That is very anti-men. But also like, and this can be said of all movies, it just might not be for you. Yeah, that's true. And I think also, like, this isn't for really little kids. Right, yeah. Like, I have a three-year-old daughter.

I wouldn't take her to this. I think she'd probably enjoy, like, the colours of it initially and all of that, but when you get into the back half and it's, like, weird and existential and, like, there's But when you get into the back half and it's like weird and existential and like there's like speeches about the real world and like depression and all these things. Yeah, yeah. And expectations of women in the real world.

Yeah, and I'm not saying that like I just think she'd be bored potentially. I might take her at some point. But at the same time, I think if you've got a kid between like maybe six or eight of whatever gender gender i think you could totally take them to this and i think you'd be selling a kid short to be like there are elements of this which are too grown up because i think maybe there are for some kids and and there's definitely a bunch of stuff that would go over their heads but i think there's a really interesting discussion to be had about how the real world actually operates here in the way that yeah it's

it's portrayed here. Kids are smart. Yeah, and I think you hit the nail on the head there where you said there's a lot of stuff that goes over their heads. But, like, a lot of movies used to do that. There's a beach-off joke. Yeah, that's right. You know, The Simpsons was built on, at least early seasons of The Simpsons was built on there's stuff for the kids

and there's stuff that goes over the kids' heads. And so much of the re-watchability of that sort of stuff was you could re-watch a thing you watched as a kid and go, oh, I get that now. Masters of the universe, I get it now. That's right. He-Man is okay, all right, wow. I meant the movie, the incredible movie we watched recently.

Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. There's a fight scene in this. Yep. Just out of nowhere. Yeah. That's very Agamemnon as well, isn't it a fight scene in this yes out of nowhere yeah there's a that's very out of nowhere god there's some of the use in there's a particular fight sequences yes yeah i meant the one the one on the right yeah yeah um there's a there's a moment where there's a particular song which i guess which the Kens sing. Yes. And I just love that choice and the way they set it up

and the way that they were singing it. And I'm just like, God, this is a good joke. Yeah. This is such a fucking good joke. Yeah. Just absolutely nailed all of this. Yeah. And, again, great supporting cast, some of which I don't recognize.

Like a number of the Barbies, the actors I don't recognize, I don't think. Yeah. If you're going to bring up this. But like a lot of the Kens are fun, Simu Liu is fun, and we've got Shudy Gatwa who's the new Doctor Who. Yep. We've got the guy who's in Secret Invasion currently

as the evil Skrull. Yeah, that's right. That's one of the Kens. Yeah. So we've got Emma Mack here, which Michael Sarah mentioned. Kate McKinnon's in it. America Ferreira is in it. Hari Neff is a ray as the president.

There's a great joke where they ask the president at the start, they're like, why are you so great? And she's like, no comment. Ariana Greenblatt, who's in 65, is in this? Oh, yeah, the daughter. Yeah. America Ferreira's daughter. Alexandra Shipp's really good in this? Oh, yeah, the daughter. Yeah. The American Frere's daughter.

Alexandra Shipp's really good in this. Just, yeah. Oh, that's a spoiler. I won't say that. But just a really good cast, you know? Yeah. And a few little cameos. A few little cameos.

But also, like, there's one cameo in this in particular. Should we do spoilers? Yeah, I'm going to say, not a huge surprise, but I'm going to say best movie ever. I also think. A big week for best movies ever. Agreed. In different ways and what a delightful time.

I think also like if you're probably like, oh, this is, I don't know, a Barbie movie, I don't know, is it just man-hating or whatever, it's probably not for you, like honestly. And maybe just don't, you don't have to, maybe don't see it. And I think that's okay because not everything- Wait a little bit of time because the steam will die down from all those videos of people who need content of hating things every week. And then when the smoke is cleared, maybe just watch it on streaming

or whatever and see what you think of it. Do whatever you want. Yeah. But, yeah, what a week. What a week, yeah. Anyway, spoilers, big-time spoilers for Barbie. Yep. What are we thinking?

Spoilers. Yeah, it's a great point. Oh, man. There's not a ton to spoil. I mean, John Cena's in it. John Cena is in it as a mermaid. Not that proof to me as well. Like, John Cena pops up and goes, hi.

I'm just like, I'm glad this isn't just wall-to-wall fucking celebrity cameos. Absolutely, yeah. It just reminded me of, like, The Flash. Yes, absolutely. And just like, now it's this guy and it's this guy and it's this guy. Yeah. And this movie is, I mean, I guess there are cameos like throughout it, I guess, but it's more like this person

plays a role in this or they're in this movie. So I guess it's not a cameo because they're in it for more than one scene. That's true. I thought that was like delightful that it didn't hinge on, wow, this thing, you know? Okay, I guess what we can spoil, and I mean, there's a lot of plot that isn't in the trailers.

So the plot is, of course, that Barbie and Ken go to the real world. Barbie is sort of shocked at how it's a patriarchy, not a matriarchy. But Ken loves it because he's never encountered this before. And he has no identity in Barbie land. But in this place, everybody just respects him. Well, they don't really, but he thinks – Yeah, that's right. He thinks he gets like an inherent amount of respect. Yeah.

And then he decides that he is going to pop back to Barbie Land really quickly and sort of introduce a patriarchy. Yeah. And he can brainwash all the other Barbies because they haven't been as exposed to the real world. So like the Martians in War of the Worlds, they're – Exactly. Do they even use that comparison?

They might do, yeah. But like they are vulnerable to this sort of brainwashing and then so it becomes kind of a Ken-centric world where they've taken over all the Barbie houses. And what song do they play all together? Push, Matchbox 20. Matchbox 20, that's right. God, it's just – there's a moment where the radio changes

and Push comes on and then there's just this really kind of, awful's not the wrong word. Awful's the wrong word because it's not awful. It's a genuinely good, silly rendition. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And I never really, like I know that song, but when you listen to the lyrics and in this context, it's just like the perfect, just like a grubby guy kind of like.

Yeah, right. It's just a self-hating kind of song. So anyway, so they go back to Barbie Land and all the Kens become part of this Ken. Manosphere. But they don't really understand it. No, yeah. And they don't know why they're doing it.

And I like that the stakes were not, we know they're all going to get out of it fine and everybody's going to learn a lesson. And, like, the idea that the Ken – what the Kens eventually learn is that they've got to get their own interests, basically. They've got to – Develop their own – Yeah, they don't have to be just Barbie and Ken. Yeah.

It's Barbie and Ken. And Ken. And Ken, right? Someone gets shot in this. Someone gets shot with an arrow, I think. I think – isn't there a moment where one of the board people gets shot in the arm? It's like there's no guns here and then he gets shot? Yeah.

Did that happen? That did happen, yeah. Okay, cool. It might have been Will Ferrell. I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a great scene where Alan beats up a bunch of men. I think that's funny.

Again, shades of Scott Pilgrim. And it's really funny also because just before that they try to build a wall to trap everybody in barbie land but they haven't worked it they're building a wall like straight up yeah so it's like 20 feet high but it's just one brick yeah they're great um i don't know i think i think it's probably like you could say it's a bit on the nose where there's like there's just like a speech about patriarchy and body image and what it means to be a child and aging and all of those things. But I thought that was, America Ferrer is in this.

Yes. And I thought it was just really well delivered. And she's really great at this. And she was ugly Betty. And she was ugly Betty. Yeah. So it hits all the way home. It hits home, doesn't it?

She gets it. Yeah. I don't know. Just fun bits. Let me think. Barbie goes to a gynecologist at the end. See, if we're talking great jokes, that's the perfect one to end on. And one that kids go, what?

Yeah. But that's a joke you can explain to, like, a kid. That's true, yeah. You can be like, well, that's. It's a set up to early when she said she didn't have a vagina. Yeah. Right? So, but I like that because you think she's going to go to a job interview.

Yeah. And she's going to become a graphic designer. Because I was like, oh, what kind of job has this got? That's right. Architect or whatever? Yeah. Oh, man. Good stuff.

Do you reckon there's going to be second Barbie? There'd have to be after this, right? I mean, financially, I think there'd have to be second Barbie. But what do you put in second Barbie? New second Barbie. I don't know. It's up to Greta Gerwig, isn't it? That's right.

And Noah Baumbach. And Noah Baumbach Moe Baumbach. Moe Baumbach. Yeah. Well, I think they talked about a Ken spinoff or whatever. Okay. So, you know. Anyway, it seems hard to be that buff.

It would be, wouldn't it? God, he was shirtless the whole time pretty much. Yeah, that's right. It's a young man's game as well. He's in his 40s, so, you know. But got some reviews here. Okay. This one's from Ryan Hunt who says,

just got out of Barbie. Enjoyable performances all around, but missed the mark on the This one's from Ryan Hunt who says, just got out of Barbie, enjoyable performances all around, but missed the mark on the ending by a long shot. Benson Maid said, I'm in Chicago, baby. Still made time for Barbie. Then Oppenheimer though, and pleased I did, left me questioning everything about being a man in this world and what beautiful things I may have destroyed in pursuit of my dreams.

Everyone else went about their day. And Vinton says, I think everyone should see the Barbie movie because there's something for everyone to learn about, about the world, people, and themselves. So there you go. I agree. Again, I think if you like Anchorman. Yes.

It's funnier than Anchorman 2. Yeah, I don't know if I've seen Anchorman 2. Do you think I'm going to get some comments? I think you're going to get some comments, my friend. I think you should re-watch Anchorman 2 before you make a comment, by the way. Like re-watch it now. Yeah, right now.

Wow. Good week for two movies. Good week for two movies. And this counter-programming, I just, I'm, they're going to, Hollywood is going to try and replicate this. Yes. I just don't, I don't think these two together, it cannot be done. I don't think it can either.

You know, I mean, they often try to jump on a trend, you know, after Titanic. They're like, I don't know, we'll talk about, you know, like Pearl Harbor. What's another historical epic we can do? They have to do two movies that are on, like, polar opposites in terms of, like, demographics, and they have to come out the same week,

and people have to have the same level of hype for them. Well, James, here's a letter. I was going to put this in letters, but I'll give it to you now. Whoa. This is from Chase. Chase? Hey, James and May, so did you see the recent announcement that Saw X and the Paw Patrol movie are going to be coming out on the same day?

Oh, my God. I've seen that Saw Patrol deemed the next to Barbenheimer. This feels like another classic example of Hollywood not learning the correct lesson from something. Would love your thoughts. Correct. It absolutely is, yes. That's what's happening.

And, I mean, look, that also seems like – so the thing about Barbenheimer is – Did they say Saw Patrol? Was that what they said? Saw Patrol, yeah. Okay. The thing about Barbenheimer is it was – from what I can tell, it was largely built by social media, like the general public, and that's why it worked, I think.

And it's also wild that, again, from what I understand, and maybe this isn't true, but it's a weird coincidence if it's not, it's that Warner Brothers, their relationship's out with Christopher Nolan, so they put Barbie up against Oppenheimer deliberately to see if they could sink Oppenheimer. But then it's at this weird, what's the term? Melding? Symbiosis.

Symbiosis, that's good. Symbiosis where it all worked together and everybody went, not everybody, but like enough people everybody went I'm gonna see isn't it what a fun thing to see two different movies

same weekend they're so different you know let's make it an event and also like I was like this week this is inconvenient

to see two movies yeah yeah yeah so like I don't wanna be going double bills of anything like it's true I was like this is a fucking hassle. And also, next week is clear.

But also, I'm glad like, these are two movies that, I mean, if one of these movies I just wouldn't have seen. We would have done a week of, like, if we had heard one was terrible or whatever, we would have done one and not the other. That's probably true. I mean, what I think may happen as well is that, you know, people are aware that

this is inconvenient. Maybe they just saw one and then next week they're going to – they've heard the other one is also good and they'll – hopefully the head of steam will keep going and people will, you know. And lessons will not be learned. Well, exactly. I mean, that's the thing. Hollywood will attempt to replicate this and it will not work. It will be Morbius 2 and Morbius 3. Back to

back on the same weekend. What do I see first? I don't know. Morbius 3, obviously. Yeah, Morbius 3. And then don't see 2. Yeah. Morbius 2, the legend of Tyrese's arm. Pya-pyow. Alright, what should we do, Mason?

We should do what we're reading. Yeah? What are we going to read? Do that now. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Well, Mason, this is the segment where we talk about what's up. And what's up with you? What have you been reading? That's a great question.

I've got one. Okay, go ahead. I watched the first two episodes with my son of My Adventures with Superman. Oh, good. It's like Invincible, but it never turns. Oh, right. Interesting. It's like the first bit of with my son of My Adventures with Superman. Oh, good. It's like Invincible, but it never turns. Oh, right. Interesting. It's like the first bit of Invincible. It's cheery and charming before anybody gets their head punched off.

Exactly. Interesting. Even aesthetically. I'm like, it's got that kind, I don't know, there are anime influences and he's got that Sailor Moon suit I've seen and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, it's like a fun thing and my son liked it and he was like, is this a show from when you were a kid? And I'm like, no, this is new. And he goes, what? He didn't know. Wow. Yeah, I's like a fun thing, and my son liked it, and he was like, is this a show from when you were a kid? And I'm like, no, this is new.

And he goes, what? He didn't know. Wow. Yeah, I'm like, this is new to me. My goodness. But no, I enjoyed it. I think I'm going to continue watching it with my son. Interesting.

I read the first two issues of a comic book on Skybound called Void Rivals. I've read Void Rivals. Which is? Rivals. I've read the first one. Interesting. So it's Robert Kirkman is writing it. I'm going to buy second Void Rivals. Which is? Rivals. I've read the first one. Ah, interesting. So it's Robert Kirkman is writing it.

And I'm going to buy second Void Rivals now. So it's. You going to do the twist? I'll explain them. So the first issue is about two humanoid aliens from two rival like alien races. Yeah, man. Who are engaged in a war. But two of their spaceships crash on like

an asteroid i already bought part two i pretty much it's time to read part two yeah uh and then and they're like and and they they crash separately on this on this rock and they they nearly come to blows and they're going to kill one another but then they find some common ground and they're like okay well it's time to maybe we can salvage components of my ship and your ship and we'll put it all together. And it's like, where is this leading? And anyway, spoilers. Time for spoilers.

They're like, maybe we should, maybe we can get some parts off that ship. Oh, there's a crashed ship. Anyway, that ship turns out to be Jetfire from the Transformers and we're in a Transformers universe somehow. And he's been there for like a crashed ship. Anyway, that ship turns out to be Jetfire from the Transformers and we're in a Transformers universe somehow. And he's been there for like a million years. That's the first issue. I haven't read the second one. Okay, so this is part of what's called the Energon universe,

which is apparently now it's Hasbro's. It's going to be part of their Transformers and gi joe universe but they're also adding new elements and they've got robert kirkman yeah so invincible speaking of and the walking dead and a trillion other things is is leading this up god imagine a movie like this right oh like jetfire was in it they don't reveal that so it's like oppenheimer but they're like how do we get something how do we we're running out of plutonium I'm over this implode plutonium in there and it's Grimlock and he eats you that dinosaur's mouth um yeah it's really interesting yeah I really like the first one and the second issue has an even more obscure reference in it is it like

Robin the Space Knight or something no it's still Transformers based. Okay. It's even more. All right. Maybe I'll read that tonight. Yep. Please do. Great.

What else? I haven't watched the bear yet. No? So I don't know if they're ever going to catch that bear. I can spoil it for you now. Whether they catch the bear? They shoot the bear in the first episode. Oh, man.

And then the bear's in the ICU. Okay. They're all remorseful. So they're all huddling around the bear's bed once in a coma. And then in the last episode, it wakes up from the coma and it kills everybody in the hospital room. Wow, okay. Yeah, even the main guy from the bear.

You know the guy that everybody loves? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just kills him first. Damn. Yeah. Who's going to make the sandwiches in season three of The Bear? That's what The Bear said. So The Bear got kind of meta.

Yeah. He killed everyone. So did he feel remorseful i don't think so i think it was more kind of just thinking out loud wow i mean you would wonder wouldn't you i didn't know the bear could talk yeah yeah i wonder if because he just maybe he just saw a bunch of people around his his hospital bed he killed them all yeah and then after that he realized it was the cast of the TV series The Bear. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know whether they're going to recast everybody.

Like is it a. You can't recast The Bear. No. Do you go with like the mash effect? Are you familiar with this? Yes. Where you basically. The next people you write into the show are the opposites of the current ones.

So since Jeremy Allen White was killed by that bear you get Michael Ian Black. Exactly. Yeah. And so forth. Instead of a, you get Michael Ian Black. Exactly, yeah. And so forth. Instead of a bear, you might do a dolphin. Yeah, nice. Which is the opposite of a bear. So we're talking Flipper starring Michael Ian Black. Exactly.

Okay, right. Interesting. Perfect. Yeah. Should we move on? We should move on momentarily. All right. Because the next segment's called Letters.

We treat ourselves to a letters theme that I play off my phone. And it's right here. Yeah. The classic one was, Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. We know they're here right now. We're going to do letters.

We are going to do letters. We did a Ninja Turtles Let's Play this week, didn't we? Yes, we did. BigSandwich.co. Of the arcade and then another game. That's right. All the way through, baby. That's a BigSandwich.co.

It's exclusive. It's paywalled. You cannot get to it unless you give us some money. That's right. There's also a bunch of other stuff that's there. That's right. The whole back catalogue's already. Don't you want to see two men play Ninja Turtles the arcade game?

Yes, I do. And in addition to that, we're doing the Michael Bay Ninja Turtles movie starting this week for Caravan of Garbage. I didn't mention that at the end of the last video, I don't think, but we are doing that. That's exciting. So that's cool. Anyway, Mason, if you do want to reach the show,

hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. Now, Colleen's reminded me that it's actually been two years since Snake Eyes was released. Oh, wow. We were actually supposed to look at the Snake Eyes movie this week, but we're not going to do three movies in a week. Oh, my God. There is a gap next week. Much that I'd love to going to do three movies in a week. There is a gap next week.

Much that I'd love to say three best movies ever in a week. I would love that. There simply is not time. So there's a gap next week and then it's Ninja Turtles. So next week, would you like to do Snake Eyes for real though? Actually, let's do Snake Eyes. We can do Snake Eyes. If you haven't watched it, now's the opportunity.

The Snake Eyes anniversary episode, that's exciting. Snake-iversary? Did you say there might be a Snake Eyes video game? No. Yeah, they might be developing a Snake Eyes video game. It could be part of that thing I mentioned earlier. That's right. Did I say hashtag WickedPlanetPod and WickedPlanetPod.gmail.com already?

Yes. Great. This is from Deej. He says hashtag WickedPlanetPod. With Spider-Man 2 releasing later this year, there's a lot of speculation as to who Venom is. Did you hear that it's not Eddie Brock in that game? Yes.

Apparently. Could be almost anybody. There we go. Apparently in the video game universe, Eddie Brock and Peter Parker haven't met. So who? Oh. Maybe it's Peter. Maybe it's Harry Osborn.

It's Harry, right? I think it's Harry, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Has he been a Venom before? We know he's been a goblin. He has been a goblin, hasn't he? Yeah.

It's true. He's goblin. It might be Norman Osborn. Could be. Could it be miles because peter does get the suit in it yeah that's true black so i don't think yeah miles could be craven could be craven yeah because craven does seem to not particularly care for that spider-man character that's true craven's had the symbiote before he has i mean they all have haven't they yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah anything, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anything else? I don't know. I think it's probably Harry. What about you, Mason?

I want to find an email. I'll do this then. I had one from earlier. Oh, yeah. You did your email already. That's right. I'll find another one. That's fine.

It's from Nations of Eagles who said, Hey, James and Mason, really excited to go see Oppenheimer in the next few days. While I haven't seen it yet, I imagine it's about Oppie's regret on making something that'll change history for the worst. Is there a video or bit you've done on the pod that you've immediately regretted putting out there?

Really love listening to the pod each week. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Yes. Oh. It's when I make an obvious error that I should have picked up on because I know people will just remind me of it. Interesting. Or I don't clarify a point clear enough

and people correct me on a thing that I already know. Oh, yeah. Okay, right. And also, like, there's a bunch of videos that I don't like that I don't watch. It's most of them. They go out in the world and they disappear to me. Right, okay.

They're gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I try not to say anything too mean about anybody. I think that's one thing we've learned about this sort of thing. It's like, you know, very rarely does anybody set up to make, like, a bad thing.

I completely agree. And often it's – I mean, sometimes it's a tax write-off. Yeah, sometimes it is. But often the movies that we don't like, the reason I don't like them isn't because it's a particular vision. It's because somebody, like, fucked it along the way. Yeah, true, yeah.

You know? Or the number of people, number of factors. But there's no, like, there's very few, like, directors where I'm like, I hate all the movies you do and I hate. I don't think there's anybody, actually, that I'm like, I hate all the movies you do and I hate... I don't think there's anybody actually that I'm like, and I hate you. Also, I don't want to... I'm glad also we don't beef with anybody.

That's true. There's a lot of YouTubers... I was just thinking about that yesterday. I don't have the energy for that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And don't get me wrong. There's a lot of YouTubers where I'm like, this guy fucking sucks for a lot of personal reasons,

which I won't get into. But why? Yeah, exactly. What am I, what would I be doing? Also, I think like oftentimes you hear behind the scenes stories, not necessarily about like YouTube people,

but often like, you know, CNN, you know, all the big news networks, comedy, and they, people get on and they get it,

get in huge beefs with each other, you know, on, on, on the air. And then afterwards they're just like, that was a good, good work,

you know, kind of thing. It's like, yeah, none of you believe in any of this. I don't want to have an argument with somebody who's like, actually Barbie's woke or whatever and then you've finished the argument and you get all riled up and they're like, good content there. We've done that. Exactly.

You don't believe in any of this. What are you doing? Exactly. But I'll debate anybody. Yeah, that's true. I mean I've had the opportunity to go on some shows yes let's say uh-huh and one of them uh turned out very recently to be well we already knew he was i won't name who we already knew he was a huge piece of shit but it turns out he's even

a bigger piece of shit than we initially thought and i'm so glad and it was about wonder woman it's like come on and talk about wonder woman And I couldn't do it for whatever reason. And also I was like, even if I could do this, I don't want to do this. I don't want to get in this fucking sphere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm so glad I didn't do it. Like, oh, God, I would have never heard the end of it. Yeah.

Oh, my God. So the lesson here is if anybody asks you to do something, say no. Exactly. You know? Yeah. Oh, it might be a new opportunity for me. Forget it. Just forget it.

Oh, no, work with people who are nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like me and Sal from Comic Pop, we're going to record a thing on Jaws coming up. And, like, yeah, I'll talk to, like, nice people about things. That's right. Any day of the week. Unless I'm busy and I won't. That's right.

Yeah. Anyway, what have you got, Mason? Did you find one? It's an email from Laura. Laura? Laura emailed in and said, was Secret Invasion this dull in the comics? Ah, maybe. Hey, guys.

Love the show. Long time listener. Genuine question, but was Secret Invasion this dull in the comics? The Skrull Resistance is literally just a group of mercenaries. I was anticipating the secret ominous threat where you can't figure out who is who, but instead they just walk around as the same person the whole time. They also seem to have done the most.

I don't know if there were any spoilers in this. I don't think. They also seem to have done the most... I don't know if there were any spoilers in this. I don't think... They also seem to have done the most minor government infiltration. Like, with millions of Skrulls, surely they would have had the entire government branches replaced. Like, from episode five, why do they need to convince the president to bomb Russia? I thought their game plan would be to just replace him.

I don't know. I didn't see episode five. I couldn't tell you. I'm going to watch it. But look, as somebody who heartily endorsed this show before it came out and paid advertising, I actually still think it's not very great. Interesting. But I'll stand by that. Well, see, the thing about...

I mean, look at the cast. Why is this, like... I feel... It should be great, right? Emilia Clarke has gotten into, like, the tail end of Marvel. Yeah. And the tail end of the Terminator franchise Marvel and the tail end of the Terminator franchise. And the tail end of the Han

Solo universe. Oh yeah! Yeah, but I mean her and Olivia Colman and Samuel L. Jackson's in it. The guy from Barbie, whose name I cannot recall, but it's Kingsley Ben related. Yep. Don Cheadle's in it. Yeah, it's

a great cast. The thing is I think that the reason that the comic book version works is because – They can be any superhero or whatever. They can be any superhero and nobody's contract with Marvel Comics has run out and you can't use them anymore. Yeah. Or like there's no Robert Downey Jr. is out of contract and so they killed his character and you can't bring him back.

You know, everybody's still in. You don't have to pay anybody $10 million for a brief appearance where you go, oh, it's Thor, but actually he's a Skrull or whatever. Yeah. So you are really just reduced to they're in. The entire premise of Secret secret invasion in the comic books was that the scrolls had developed a method to transform into various heroes, take all their memories and all their powers.

And so they were indistinguishable from the heroes. And a lot of them had been sleeper agents for years. Could make a good movie. Could make an incredible movie. In 2017. That's exactly right. But you can't do that with this. Cause like I said, you've got to, you know, can you get a Hemsworth in for this or, you know?

And so they've had to go, well, they're just copying regular people. If you're going to do it like this small scale, I don't know, Nick Fury's in space and set it on a spaceship. He's got an Earth crew or something. Do it like Aliens or like The Thing. Yeah, that could work. Where it's like, well, this guy in the government's a skrull great great i don't know who that is we've just met him so that's the thing because there's not enough there's not i mean they

sort of we got martin freeman in for an episode yeah but there's no and also because it's sort of been built there's no way to build the the for it. There's almost no characters in – and again, because there are hundreds of characters in the comic book universe, you can just take a bunch of them and go, I remember that appearance where they said that, well, they were a Skrull then or what have you. But in this, there's not enough characters and there's not – How long ago was this person a Skrull?

Yeah. I don't know, at the start of the series maybe, maybe a little bit before. Yeah, that's exactly right. There's no room to – there haven't been enough events that you can point to and go, well, that's when they were a Skrull. Yeah. So, you know.

Yeah. I mean, they might have been if they tied it in closer to some other stuff and, as you mentioned, got some of the actual superheroes in it. But, yeah, I think this might be the first Marvel show where we just don't do a review video for. Maybe. I mean, I don't even know if I'm going to finish it this week.

I mean, I might. You might. Also, what do I say? Yeah. I don't know. It was all right. Was it, though? I don't know.

Was it? I don't know. Oh, my goodness. It could just be us looking at, like, the Wikipedia plot summary of every episode and being like, Rhodey runs down the street. Was that good? Was that good?

That's the thing, right? Like, I couldn't even, like, recount to you what, like, why that thing happened. Well, Martin Freeman fell off a roof. Did he? That was good, right? It was good. Did he, though?

Yeah, I think so. Or he got shot or something. Yeah. Did he, though? I don I think so. Or he got shot or something. Yeah. Did he, though? I don't know. I don't know, man. Anyway, congratulations to Samuel L. Jackson. I mean, he's put the work in, hasn't he?

I mean, good performances. Yeah. You know? Anyway, anything else or should we wrap it up there? Let me find one more email. You're going to love it. I want to push you away. Mason, I want to go to bed because I want to start going to the gym again.

Well, then let's cut that and let's say that I said it's the end. Okay. Okay. Yeah, but we'll leave this in. Yeah, great. I love that. Go on. And you can go to your precious gym.

I will. Folks, that is the whole show. Thank you so much for listening. Working on my squat. Sorry? Working on my squat. I'm building up to a PR. I thought you were going to say I'm working towards, I'm building towards one squat. I'm working on my squat. Well'm building up to a PR. I thought you were going to say I'm working towards,

I'm building towards one squat. I'm working on my squat. Well, yeah, you do. That's a PR. You do like how many, like what's one rep max, you know? What on that? But the one rep is so powerful. Yeah.

Wow. Gym, Mason. It's gym life. I don't like that at all. You're wearing a T-shirt that says hashtag gym life. I am wearing that. That's true. And you're dabbing.

But that's in memory of my friend Jim, spelled G-Y-M. But he's alive? Yeah. But he's embarrassing, so he doesn't leave the house. But it's in memory of him. Can I meet him? No, you cannot. So go on.

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Any app. It's like cereal. Not any app app so yes any app you're listening to mason i'll do it on my clock app on my phone oh my god i can do it oh my god i can do it listening okay you're too caught up in gym life don't worry about him mason any app that you listen to this on oh yeah so saw john farnham perform you're the voice live on top of the pops in grade seven as a poor expat living in belgium and thought it was the mantra for my life. James and Maceo's weekly investigation of the haunting and grisly origins of this harrowing song makes the twice-weekly part a must-listen. Ten stars.

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All right. Yeah. We're the good guys in that movie. Yeah. You know? Those guys. Let's not dwell on it. The communists?

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