The Weekly Planet - 494 TMNT: Mutant Mayhem & James Gunn Cancelled

Episode Date: September 4, 2023

It's a rare opportunity to talk about a movie a month after it's hit cinemas. Luckily we get that opportunity with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem. Plus we talk the passing of Arleen Sorkin, Disney cancelling more stuff, baffled CEO's hit with more devestating strike news, more MCU delays, a new Box Office record, James Gunn cancelled again and more! Thanks for listeningThe Flash movie commentary out now on bigsandwich.co - also featuring bonus weekly shows, video let's plays, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Nick Mason joins latest Do Go On podcast https://play.acast.com/s/do-go-on/410-the-exploding-whale-of-florence-oregon-with-nick-masonPlease be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start05:08 Arleen Sorkin RIP07:38 Disney Cancelling Stuff09:35 Ferrari Trailer12:21 CEOs Baffled (Strike Updates)18:41 More MCU Delays (But Good)20:26 The Marvels' Surprising Runtime23:24 Box Office Record Time25:59 The Batman 2: Clayface Confirmed?28:54 Fire James Gunn Again?33:34 TMNT Mutant Mayhem Review (spoilers 48:07 to 56:57)56:57 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:08:41 Letters, It's Time For Letters (feat. One Piece chat)James' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I love that. Movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. And with me as always, that's my co-host Nick Mason. It's great to be here. Jumping in at the absolute right time. That's right, exactly. To make sure everything is on track.

I think so too. We're having a lovely time. We are, aren't we? For people just in the interest of full disclosure, I have had a migraine. It's still tinkling away in the back of my head. Yeah. So if, James, you say something and listeners out there are like, wow, Mace, I really missed an

absolute layup of a joke there. It's because I have a migraine. And if you've ever listened to anything we've ever done and I've missed an absolute layup of a joke, it's because I had this migraine. Just so you know. You're talking anything, any YouTube video. Almost anything. There was an obvious joke that we, or metaphor that we missed. Yeah. Okay, cool. You met me in real life. Yeah. And I just walked away. It's because I had a migraine. Because you came up to him.

Yeah. I met somebody today. I was in a shop and I was buying something and they said, what are you up to today after this? And I go. He said, none of your business. I said absolutely nothing. And then they said, oh, just so you know,

you may say from the Weekly Planet. And I said, yes. And I should have said, well, actually, just so you know, I'm from the weekly planet and I said yes and I should have said well actually just so you know I'm going to be recording a podcast after this but you're not going to say that to like just a person who might not know

you do a podcast or might not know what podcasts are yeah absolutely I met a lovely listener this week as well Noah came up and said hello which was

a very kind a hello from Noah that's right it was very nice so that's cool it's cool nice. So that's cool. It's cool to meet people. It's cool to meet people. Yeah, yeah.

You can say hi to us. Yeah. I mean, not unless I have a migraine and you don't know about it. Yeah, I might be on edge. I might be just at breaking point and you hit me at a really bad time. Yeah, and you'll hit them in a really bad place. They're nuts. That's right.

No, we're very friendly probably. We're very friendly. You know where I was very friendly on an episode of Do Go On this week. Tell me about it. Well, Dave was away for some reason. Yeah? He loves going away, that guy. It could be a pie thing. You think he had a pie, yeah. He went away to get a pie, I think. Typical.

So I slithered in. Under the door. Under the door and I said, hey guys, hey remaining guys at Do Go On, Matt and Jess, can I be on this episode? And they said yes. So we talked about that time there was a whale all washed up on a beach and they blew it up with dynamite. Spoiler alert, but we get into all the messy details. Yeah.

I mean, it worked, didn't it? No. I mean, they blew it up. I mean, they did, but it didn't work. I mean, it worked. I mean. They blew it up. Yeah.

I mean, it worked in the sense that it gave us content decades later for a podcast. Thank you. I think that's cool. I mean, it worked in the sense that it gave us content decades later for a podcast. Thank you. I think that's cool. I completely agree. All right, so this week on the Weekly Planet podcast, the show we do every week. I love that.

There's time codes below if you do want to jump to anything. We're going to talk about the passing of Arlene Sorkin. We're going to talk about the latest updates of the strike proposals. And some of the people involved in that, the studio heads, they're not having a good time of it. Interesting. Which makes me have a great time. We're talking more delays.

You know, sometimes that would make me think that perhaps sometimes when you're not having a good time, maybe people are having a good time about that. Oh, I hope that's not true. Because when you're pointing your fingers at someone, you're pointing other fingers back at you. Am I? Yeah.

That's great. Sometimes you're like this. That's a visual gag. That's a very visual gag. But I'm pointing one hand at you and Am I? Yeah. That's great. Sometimes you're like this. That's a visual gag. That's a very visual gag. But I'm pointing one hand at you and then I'm just pointing another hand directly back at you. Now you've ruined the joke for me and everybody else. That's what I do.

I've got a migraine, all right? We're going to talk about the runtime of Captain Marvel, which got a sort of trailer. No, the Marvels, which got a sort of trailer this week. Okay. We're going to talk a new box office record shattered, and it's not Barbie. Whoa. We're going to talk a new box office record shattered, and it's not Barbie. Whoa.

We're going to talk about news on the Batman part two. We're going to talk about how James Gunn is probably getting fired again. Oh, wow. On the trash heap with Kathleen Kennedy. That's right. Some old Facebook posts. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, okay.

Right, right, right. Cancelled James Gunn. Cancelled, et cetera. Then we're finally going to talk about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem. Yeah. A movie that is out on streaming. What an opportune time.

So for people who don't know, it was out in America for ages and normally in Australia we get a movie at roughly the same time, sometimes even earlier, like a day earlier. But this time around we didn't get it for weeks. Yeah. But fortunately there's advanced screenings in Australia this week right at about the time that it's coming on streaming in the US. So by the time it actually officially comes out in Australia, everybody who wants to watch it will have watched it on a torrent and will not watch it in the cinemas in Australia. Paramount Pictures, you are lucky that I have a child.

You are lucky. Yeah. And you're lucky Mason can't use a computer. That's right. And I love sticky carpets. I love that noise my shoes make on a twinkler. Oh, it's good, isn't it? I love how you drop your phone behind the seat and you're just like,

let it go. I was due for a new phone anyway. I mean, I just got this phone, but I'm due for a new one. I didn't like the colour. So Arlene Sorkin has passed away at age 67 after a long battle with multiple sclerosis. Now, if you don't know, she is probably most famously known for a couple of things, but the voice of Harley Quinn,

the original voice. Yeah, the voice and also the design, the inspiration, the mannerisms, the look. Like she was, you know, when they were putting together the Batman animated series, they were like, yeah, bring Arlene on and we'll, you know, base the entire character off her. It goes a little deeper than that even, Mason, if you don't mind. I do.

So originally Harley Quinn was just going to be like a walk-on role. It's like Joker's got a girlfriend or whatever, you know? Yeah, so she'd be gay. Him and Batman are not gay. He has a girlfriend. Like it was probably, you know, so she'd be gay. Him and Batman are not gay. He has a girlfriend. Like, it was probably, you know, that kind of thing. It's only Batman that's gay. Joker is not.

Yeah, so the original idea, I think, for Harley Quinn was that it was originally going to be a scene where the Joker bursts out of a cake. Yeah. But they were like, it sort of removes his menace if he jumps out of a cake. So they're like, what if he had a Harlequin-like sidekick who jumps out of the cake instead? Long behold. Yeah, long behold.

And Paul Dini, who was one of the minds behind that series, he said after seeing his colleague and friend Arlene, sorry, his college friend Arlene Sorkin play a jester in a dream sequence in the so-proper Days of Our Lives, she did 427 episodes of Days of Our Lives, by the way. She was a series regular and then would pop back in every few years. Dini decided to have her voice Harley Quinn. So, and as you said, brought in aspects of like her mannerisms

and specifically she was very snappy, wisecracking, and a bubbly blonde personality. She eventually stepped away from the role in 2011 due to health issues and Tara Strong. I mean, other people have voiced the character since. Ellie Cuoco. Ellie Cuoco. But, yeah, she was the one that kicked everything off.

And there's a tweet here from Mark Hamill who obviously played the Joker. He said, Devastated to learn we've lost the brilliant Arlene Sorkin, not just a wonderful talent but a truly wonderful person. I'm grateful not only to have worked with her but to have been her friend, sending my heartfelt condolences to her family and loved ones. So, yeah, I mean, just what an incredible character that is still around that she, you know, had a massive hand in crafting entirely.

Like if she didn't exist, that character would be nothing or would have just popped up and disappeared. It's a very good chance. We'd be forced to watch Joker and Batman colon Boyfriends. Oh, damn. The animated series. They could still make that. They could still make that, I think.

I would love that. So there you go. Let's move on to other news. I have some other news. Oh, let's do other news. This is very fun, uplifting news. This is from the AV Club. Disney Plus won't air its already completed Spiderwick Chronicle show.

Oh, yeah, there's a couple shows that got cancelled. One was Spiderwick and one wasicle show. Oh, yeah, there was a couple of shows that got cancelled. One was Spiderwick and one was another thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But it had Christian Slater in it apparently and probably some children. Chrissy Slater. Some child actors. They'd already filmed it and they just went, nah, it's cancelled.

Don't worry about it. So now they're taking things off streaming before they even get there. Yeah. Wow, incredible. The window narrowed. Didn't they have a movie? I can't remember what it's called, but it was like a space exploration movie.

Was it Craters or something? Something like that. And it was on there for like five weeks. They took it off before you could finish watching it. You started it up on Disney Plus and a little countdown timer popped up and it's like, that's less than the run time of the movie. How am I going to do this? Double speed, no sound, I guess.

Well, the timer is going down faster. I don't understand. That is wild. I mean, that would have crunched the numbers. And I know we've talked about before, I think Disney were looking to, what was it, save like $8 billion this year? I can't remember the specific number. So they would have gone, well,

this won't bring in the amount of subscribers that we need. So we feel it's more cost effective to cancel on. Now, they probably also looked at Willow, which didn't do super well as well. It's not Marvel. It's not Star Wars, you know, so why bother, you know? Yeah, but I mean, and look, this was a YA series published in 2003,

so this is way out of our. Yeah, I mean, there was a movie as well at one point, you know. But, you know, I imagine there was a big fan base for this. No doubt. And I think also not only that, imagine being a kid actor and this is your first major role and everybody's like, oh, you're going to be on, you know, Disney Plus, this is going to be incredible.

And they're just like, no, actually never. It's really not uncommon for, like, pilots to not, or you do one and then it disappears. But, like, to do a whole series and bin it is like, that's very unusual. Strange times. But cool. Yeah, I mean, it's bin it is, like, that's very unusual. Strange times. But cool. Yeah, I mean, it's cool.

It is cool. There's nothing cooler than what's just happening right now. Oh, my other one bit of news. Yeah. So you've got two bits of news? Yeah, I've got two bits of news. We didn't mention this previously, but did you watch the trailer for Ferrari?

Yes, I did, with Adam Driver. Which is Ferrari's first solo movie. Do you think they cast him because his name's Adam Driver? Imagine if his name was Adam Driver Ferrari. He probably would have got the role even faster. Don't you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or maybe they wouldn't.

That would have been two on the nose. Two on the nose. Well, James, you stepped on my joke which was going to be Ferrari's first solo movie after Ford versus Ferrari. That's good. I mean, they're not the same jokes. No, they're different jokes.

Yeah, yeah. So if anything, you've done a joke which, you know, probably didn't have as big a response as my joke. That's true. Because I remember you laughing raucously. I cackled maniacally because his name actually is Adam Driver, a thing that I hadn't considered. Yeah.

Anyway, look, who is it? Michael Mann. It is Michael Mann. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And as I understand it, Neon, which is the distributor, has just agreed to all the striker's demands. They can promote it. They can promote it.

So Adam Driver went out in a car. Did he? But then he went to a venue. Okay. To a press conference. He didn't walk. No. Yeah.

He'd have a long stride, wouldn't he? Anyway, God, sorry. You should call him Adam Strider. Do you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. Michael Mann.

Michael Mann in a car. Sometimes. Sometimes in a car. Yeah, Adam Driver basically said I'm here as a visual representation of. How big I am. Yeah, he's big. That's Strider there, man. They should call him Adam Strider. But as a visual representation of distributors and studios

acceding to demands, and so this is how you can actually get stuff done. I hope it does really well then. Yeah, even if it's terrible, which I don't think it will be because Michael Mann, he makes a good movie. Yeah, it looks intense. It does, doesn't it? Yeah. I wonder if it's going to be as good as PlayStation commercial 2023.

Doubtful. Yeah, it was good. Because this is about a guy who was like, what if we made cars really fast and cool? Yep. But which is fine. That's fine. The Gran Turismo Sony commercial is about what if a gamer became a racer?

Yeah. And it was based on a true story. Yeah, it was. Yeah. They should call him Gary Gamer Racer. They should. Yeah. I still haven't looked into what parts of that are real.

I have no idea. But you've seen it. You saw it. You did see it. Okay. Yeah. I saw it in a shaky chair cinema. You know, in the chairs like rumbled.

In the D-box. Did you for real? Yeah. Whatever it's called. Does that cost extra? Yeah, it did actually. How much extra? I don't know.

I had some points, so not that much extra. But yeah, I wasn't happy about it. Yeah. I wanted the full racing experience. But, yeah, I wasn't happy about it. I wanted the full racing experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. They've got a couple of employees. They've got a couple of cinema employees.

They have, like, branches. They swat you in the face with them. Absolutely. Now, last week, us, but specifically you, completely botched an explanation for a table we talked about. Here we go. It was me, okay? It was me.

I'll admit it. I'll admit it. I'll admit it. You've held my feet to the fire for long enough. So basically the chart was highlighting the cost of the WGA proposals, and I put it in as a last-minute thing, and I glanced at it and went, yeah, I can probably do this. And then, like, looking back, obviously that's something I should have looked at properly.

And often I do with all of this strike stuff. I read extensively about it. That was a last-minute addition, and it's something that I will probably do again but I'll try not to. If we could summarize that, would you say excuses, excuses, excuses? Yeah, definitely. Wow. Definitely.

If we could summarize that, that would be exactly what it is. Here's a great explanation though from Nation of Eagles who tweeted out. He said, hey, Mr. Sunday Movies, I think there was some confusion over the chart on the last pod. Annual cost here isn't like the studio's annual total expenses, but rather just what the WGA's demands would cost, a fraction of 1%. I see. Just felt that there was some confusion and wanted to help.

That was incredibly helpful. Thank you. Because you've actually concisely talked about exactly what that chart is. That's wonderful. So, yeah. Because I think also because it's important to, you know, to know there's no need to like fudge the numbers here. No.

You know what I mean? Because it's not like, well, you know, if you actually look at accurate numbers, it's actually completely a difference. No, it's essentially the same story. Here's the thing also, right? Let's say these numbers are wrong. Okay.

They are. Let's say they're wrong by that actually the studio loses money by paying people properly. Well, that to me says that your business is fucked and you don't know what you're doing. wrong by that actually the studio loses money by paying people properly. Well, that to me says that your business is fucked and you don't know what you're doing. And under capitalism, that means your business should fold because it's bad because it operates at a loss. James, James, James, James, James, James. The government should bail them out.

Oh, yeah. Sorry. The government should bail them out. The government should cut essential services from their own citizens and bail out some rich guys. That's capitalism, baby. That is also capitalism. You're right.

So, you know, just this idea that, yeah, if they are hurting as much as they say they are, which they're fucking not, then you're bad at this and you need to either reassess everything or shut it down. And you know what? Seems to be working. Yeah, it does. Based on some stuff I've been hearing this week. Oh, Mason, you're going to love this.

Yes. I've just got a headline here that says, CEO's baffled. All right. Great. I've just got a headline here that says, CEOs baffled. All right. Great. This is my deadline. So amid growing speculation of internal divisions. So the strike's been going for what, 125 days, something like that? At least.

Yeah. Amid growing speculation of internal divisions with the C-suites. Suits? S-U-I-T-E-S. Sweeties? The sweeties. The C-s Sweeties, yes. And a lack of apparent path forward to end the writers and actors strikes.

The chief of Hollywood's biggest studios are set to gather today, and that was on Wednesday. All the Sweeties in one place? That's right. So it's Disney's Dana Walden and Alan Bergman, Amazon Studios' Mike Hopkins and Jennifer Solke, Netflix's Ted Sarandos, Universal's Donna Langley, and Warner Brothers' Discoveries, our boy David Zaslav.

That's right. Big D, as we like to call him. The most normal man in the world. The most normal. Bob Iger is not going to attend because apparently he wants to keep some distance to be ready for the appropriate time to get more directly engaged. James, that's so many sweeties. It might as well be a box of Quality Street.

Famous sweeties. It might as well be a box of Quality Street. Famous sweeties. Famous, very famous. So Ted Sarandos from Netflix, he lectured the WGA leaders at a gathering last week about how they had to take the latest offer. But now one of the quotes from the article is, this is a bunch of inside information, now these leaders only have themselves to blame for how bad things look. In particular, thin-skinned Iger and Zaslav are stunned,

according to one insider, that they've been so vilified by the Guild and its members over the past seven months. I'd imagine they're just seeing the backlash to this, how people are just like, you can't PR interview out of this. You've got to do something. People don't buy this shit. they hired a new PR firm quite recently and they paid somebody like $300,000 for it. Yeah, exactly.

But, yeah, and also I imagine that a lot of these guys, for the most part, are completely insulated from public comments and opinions and they're surrounded by yes men. Yeah. And when anybody goes, hey, when they go, hey, do you think we're doing a good job, the yes men say. Same debate. Yes.

You're fired. Damn. Yeah. I would not last. That's right. Because I hesitated. You hesitated for even a moment. But, yeah, and now they're – and it's the same with that airline Moscow.

Yeah. Like they don't – When they come in public, people are like, boo, I'm a normal person and boo. And boo, exactly, yeah. So apparently they're worried about a dry spell in relation to the calendar. And also the reason why a lot of this isn't going forward is because they're all the big swing and D's of Hollywood. They're not all on the same page in regards to negotiation because they're

all used to doing things their own way. So they're worried not only about what comes next, like after the strike, but also they're all competing with each other normally. Yeah. Because they're all competitors. They're all, they all run rival media companies. But at a certain point they'll all be competing for. Who can get in the bin.

Well, yeah, who can get in the bin, first of all. But also at some point, I think they're going to realize, oh, if we strike first here, if we make the deal first, all the talent is going to go to us, and then we'll have a lead of like two years. Great point. Because all the – if we say, okay, we'll give you all demands, we'll give you all your demands, we'll give you residuals to do with writers' rooms and et cetera, and everybody jumps on board, then they've got, you know, a bunch of people making pilots for them and et cetera.

Exactly. And then the other guys will be like, oh. Maybe I should have done something. Yeah. This isn't going to go well. It's not going well. Like, they're going to have to come to the table with something. Like, they're being outlasted here and nobody really is on their side.

There's people who are like, well, I am. Okay, so you are. You're actually a good example of somebody who is on their side. That's right. I didn't realize. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that people are like, well, shut down Hollywood, whatever,

everything's whatever. Yeah, I know those people exist, but most people are just like, maybe just pay properly. Yeah. And it's simple as that. They talked about this week how they had to come up with what jobs they had to ask. They had to ask a bunch of jobs this week. But the headline is like, you had to ask a bunch of jobs because you've stopped production.

You have stopped, like they have stopped it. That's true. You know, this is how it works. This is how it works. Anyway, delays? Yeah. Good. Here's a section of the show.

It's by THR. X-Men 97, the animated sequel to the X-Men 90s show. EHR, X-Men 97, the animated sequel to the X-Men 90s show. It's moved from autumn of 2023 or spring if you're in the southern hemisphere. I'm not. Which some of the best people are. Sorry. Mason's a good example of somebody who's not currently in the southern hemisphere.

That's moving to early 2024. I'm recording from the Bahamas, baby. It was a tax dodge. Yeah. Yeah. Echo, the TV series, which is the spinooff of, what was that, Hawkeye? She was in Hawkeye. She was in Hawkeye, yeah.

That moves from November 29th to January 2024. Agatha Darkhold Diaries, which has had another name change, is moving from winter 2023 to Halloween of 2024. Whoa, that's appropriate. Yeah, absolutely. And here's something from Can We Get Some Toast on Twitter. Even though Ironheart has finished shooting and was set to release in fall of 2023, it's been taken off Marvel's release schedule entirely.

Sources say that brings it closer to Armor Wars. It's been told that Marvel wants to go full steam ahead with Armor Wars production post-strike with presumably real Rhodey and not Skrull Rhodey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I love. Yeah, it's pretty good. So there you go.

Yeah, okay, yeah. roadie and not scroll roadie yeah yeah yeah which i love yeah it's pretty good there you go yeah okay yeah yeah iron ironheart was the um the notable uh mission there wasn't it yeah yeah so i get i mean that best case scenario is the thing you outlined which is they're moving it closer to the release of armor wars worst case scenario is they're like we don't want to make we don't want to release this anymore yeah we've done we've done the batgirl thing we've crunched the numbers a la batgirl and it's not worth releasing anymore, so it's gone. It's possible.

I think also they're moving things out because they need to fill gaps next year. They don't have anything. Nothing is moving at the moment. I'd recommend some bloody sellies, no more gaps. Oh yeah, is that what you recommend? Yep. That's a good example of something to recommend. Mason, the Marvels had a little trailer behind the scenes thing this week. It was pretty fun. I didn't see it, but I saw some stills. That's cool. That's all you need to recommend. Mason, the Marvels had a little trailer behind the scenes thing this week.

It was pretty fun. I didn't see it, but I saw some stills. That's cool. That's all you need to know. But here's another thing from CanWeGetSomeToast on Twitter who confirmed a report by. Who's this? Who's your mate?

He's a Scooby. He's not my mate. We're not mates. Oh, interesting. We just hang out all the time. Yeah, he said you guys are mates. He said that? Yeah.

It's not true. Make sure he knows that we're not mates, all right? You just shoot him an email. This is confirmed. He confirmed. I just lean over to the next not mates. All right? You just shoot him an email. This is confirmed. He confirmed. I just lean over to the next deck chair. Can I get some toast here? No, you.

He says you're not mates. Confirmed a report by Cryptic4Qual, who says that the Marvels with credits is 138 minutes. So coming in at around 133 minutes, which makes it the shortest Marvel movie ever. The next shortest is The Incredible Hulk at an hour 52. Wait, you said 138 minutes. Sorry, I said that wrong.

One hour. I've actually written it the right way just so you know. One hour and 38 minutes. That's brisk. Apparently it's, well, some people have said, maybe it was Toast, a good friend of mine. He said. Oh, Stephen Toast.

Stephen Toast, yeah. That it's all killer, no filler or whatever, which I hope is the case. Yeah, me too. I would love, I mean, a brisk, like just wall to wall, great stuff. Space adventure cracking pace. I would love that.

I would love that also. I hope it's that. Yeah. And not just like, can we salvage this? Yeah. But I guess we'll find out whenever that comes out. This year probably, unless they move it. I think it's November yeah and not just like can we salvage this yeah but I guess we'll find out whenever that comes out this year probably

unless they move it I think it's November they might move it yeah so there you go it's coming up it's coming up I want the world to well also

they won't if the strikes aren't going they can't promote it we've seen that that's true yeah it's bad news you kind of need people to do that

unless they convince somebody that it's an independent production. They could do that, I guess. At which point they're probably allowed to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They get a waiver. Yeah. I'm sure they've thought of that.

I'm sure they've definitely considered that option. Iman Balani gets like an email that's like, hey, Iman, you're the producer of this now. We've created an LLC in your name and we've transferred it all over to you and the IRS is coming for you. You will be arrested after the premiere. But you love comics, right? Yeah.

You love comics. She wrote a new Ms. Marvel comic. Yeah, she did. That's true. Which is pretty cool. How cool is that? Has that ever happened before? Somebody who is a character then writes the comic?

I bet it has. Well, I mean, there's been a few. If we're not including those projects that are built to make a movie property later, like Berserker, which is Keanu Reeves' one, I think he had story input on that. Yeah. But who's to say? I'm sure they have.

I bet you were. I bet you. I bet they showed Keanu the art and he went, whoa. No, he went, okay. Interesting. Sometimes he says, okay. He doesn't always have to say, whoa, Mason. Well, he did in this case.

Yeah, maybe he did. Sort of one time. It's not the, whoa, Mason. Well, he did in this case. Maybe he did. He said it one time. It's not the only thing he does. Go on. Ryan Reynolds. We'd know if Ryan Reynolds had written a Deadpool or something. He might have, though. I reckon there definitely has been. I don't know. I can't think of it. If you know, let us know.

Anyway, box office record time. We saw that Barbie this week has become Warner Brothers' biggest project ever. That's right. And the lesson in that is obviously toys. Toys, toys, toys. That's what they've taken from that. But another record this week is the Deadliner reporting that Taylor Swift,

the era's tour, concert film, has clocked in a mind-blowing $26 million in pre-sales within its first 24 hours. That beat the previous first day pre-sales, which was for Spider-Man No Way Home, which did $16.9 million. Wow. So it beat it quite a lot. The other thing is this is only for AMC apparently. Yes.

The story behind this is apparently that Taylor Swift's production team went to various studios and said. We're coming up. We want the world to know. Yeah. But they absolutely low balled her. They're like. Really?

They were like, we'll take most of the profit or whatever. And so they sort of went around the studios. Yeah. And were like, they went to the president of AMC and were just like, can we do an exclusive thing? And so she's getting all the, the Taylor Swift team are getting like a phenomenal amount of money for this. Wow.

Yeah. There's a lesson in that probably. Nah, I don't think so. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. So anyway, I might even go to that. I'll probably take my kids. I probably won't.

I can't go to the actual concert because it'll probably be too busy for me. Mason? Yes. Got some more news here. Okay. I'm looking at a list of comic books. Ten celebrities have written awesome comic books. Kevin Smith.

He's done a Bluntman and Chronic probably. I bet he has. Umbrella Academy. CM Punk apparently wrote some Thor stories. He's recently been fired from AWS. He got in a fight. Yeah, something I don't know. But I think he got in a fight but not where he was supposed to.

Outside of the ring. Yeah, outside of the ring. Interesting. And not like where he's like, I've got a chair, I'm sort of in the audience. But I think he got in a fight but not where he was supposed to. Outside of the ring. Yeah, outside of the ring. Interesting. And not like where he's like, I've got a chair, I'm sort of in the audience. But like I think it was. Yeah. Rosario Dawson wrote Occult Crimes Task Force in 2006.

Oh, okay. Bill Hader and Seth Meyers wrote Spider-Man The Short Halloween. Gerard Way famously, of course, did Umbrella Academy. Spider-Man The Short Halloween? I've never heard of it. It's a joke one apparently. Oh. Well, apparently it's good.mbrella Academy. Spider-Man the Short Halloween. I've never heard of it. It's a joke one, apparently. Oh. Well, apparently it's good.

There you go. John Cleese. None of these are actors. No. John Cleese is an actor. Idiot. He is an actor. That's true.

And I am an idiot. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Mark Hamill wrote a script called The Black Pearl, which was a superhero script. Didn't get made, so he turned it into comic books. Okay. There you go. There you go.

There you go. There it is. And Kevin Smith. Kevin Smith is at the number one. Anyway, bad results there, everybody. Great. That was awful. Yeah, thanks.

Yeah, but you know what's not awful? What's that? A bit of Batman news we're about to do, but instead of that, just beforehand, we did a commentary for The Flash. Oh, yeah. Big Sandwich.co, the new movie, The Flash, we talked about over it. And let me tell you, it's as good as I remember it, as in bad. Let me tell you this, folks.

At one point, James made a comment and then he said, oh, this is great. And he didn't say it sarcastically. He said it genuinely. Did I? And then he went, oh, no, I didn't mean to say that. It's bad. I'm a hater.

I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which film was that? I don't know. I can't remember where it was, but it's in there, folks. Goddamn. Find that. No, there is some good stuff in it. Great stuff, you said. No, yeah, yeah. Which film was that? I don't know. I can't remember where it was, but it's in there, folks. Goddamn. Find that. No, there is some good stuff in it.

Great stuff, you said. No, I doubt it. We have to sign up to know. So, yeah, that's at bigsandwich.co if you are interested. But this is via my time to shine hello on Twitter. It says, the Batman part two is to film in March of 2024 and Clayface is to be involved. We've heard that before.

Love that. It's Clayface. Who knows? The actor, the Clayman, some version in between. This is great stuff because if that is true, we don't know, is it going to be just a regular man, Clayface? Yep. Is it going to be a guy in a clay mask?

Is it going to be a full magical clay monster guy? Absolutely. We don't know. It's exciting. Which way would you rather it go? I would kind of like him some supernatural elements. Okay, great. Maybe a Clay Aiken movie.

That would be good too. Who's that again? He was an American Idol for a time. There you go. Maybe the first one or the second one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to Google that because I couldn't remember his name. But I Googled it and I'm glad I did.

That was lightning fast. It's good to nail it. You nailed that. You nailed it. Wow. So, yeah, and the other thing is apparently my time to shine was asked what else do you know about it. Wait, James?

Yeah. I thought of one. Okay. You just said you thought of one. Yeah, but now I've got a migraine, all right? Oh, I've got a migraine. Batman's going to fight crime real hard. Lee Harding.

Lee Harding? From Australian Idol. Oh, yeah. Is that what we're doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My God Lee Harding? From Australian Idol. Oh, yeah. I was overdoing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My God. Yeah, yeah. Wasabi.

Yeah, he did the song Wasabi. Yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, carry on. I hope he's well. I hope he's well in whatever bank he works at. Mason, apparently he's, by my time to shine, hello, said, I know Robin is in it, brackets Dick Grayson.

Huh. I've talked about this before. I've talked about this before. We've talked about this before. I hope it's a boy because it's way worse. Yeah, it is way worse. I think I saw a quote recently allegedly from Robert Pattinson who said he's got to be like, if he's going to be in it, he's got to be like 13, 14. Yeah.

Because that is the level at which him fighting crime is really dangerous and bad and stupid. Yeah. Because that is the level at which him fighting crime is really dangerous and bad and stupid. Yeah. And like a 13-year-old could hurt some people if he had some weapons. That's true. But like a six-year-old could not for the most part. That's true. Yeah.

What do you think about that? I love it. If it starts filming. That sounds cool. Yeah. Hopefully it does because that one was good. I don't care what you say. The first Batman movie, the Batman.

No, I said it was good. No, I don't care what you said. It is good. That's fair. Yep. Yeah, good. I don't care what you say. The first Batman movie, The Batman. No, I said it was good. No, I don't care what you said. It is good. That's fair. Yep. Yeah, good. This one just says, what are we doing? This bit of news.

Fire James Gunn. Again, that's happening. That's right. Probably trended or whatever. Yeah, now, so what happened here, if I recall, is that someone unearthed some old James Gunn Facebook posts. Ollie, relax. They're just old Facebook posts. We're just talking about James Gunn Facebook posts. Ollie, relax. They're just old Facebook posts.

We're just talking about James Gunn. We know you want to cancel James Gunn. Is she pro-firing James Gunn? I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. You have to understand the context, Ollie, because at this point he was probably part of Troma. He was saying edgy stuff.

This was pre-Guardians of the Galaxy. That's right. In the profile photos he's got black hair. Crazy. Young James Gunn. Young and angry James Gunn. That's right. But anyway, this is probably less controversial than the last time he got cancelled. Probably. This time he said

he was having opinions about DC's Batman movies. He was saying, well, Tim Burton's Batman movie, not very good. Did he say something about that? I've got some quotes here. Yeah, please. I could just read them all. Yeah, read them all. So this is pre-2012 and we know that because it was pre-The Dark Knight Rises. Yeah, so if you could read them and then let me know you finished

and then I'll say cancelled if I think he should be cancelled for it. I thought you were going to say Gundam style because that's from 2012. Oh, that would be nice. In the era. Gundam style? Yeah, Gundam style. Like James Gunn. That's good, yeah. That's great. I'll combine the two Gundam style? Yeah, Gundam style. Like James Gunn. That's good, yeah.

That's great. I'll combine the two. Yeah, do it. So Keaton did have a ridiculous voice. That said, I'd put up with a ridiculous voice then with horrible action sequences and acting barely worthy of the Batman TV show. I have no idea how you can think that the Burton Batman has more similarities with Moore or Miller's Batman and Joker than Nolan's does. And listen, I have problems with both the Nolan films. I don't think

either one is classic and I don't even really think Batman Begins is good. Oh my God. But they're far superior to the first Batman. None of your defenses get to the fact that despite being the first cinematic dark take on Batman, also brackets, so what, Stallone's Judge Dredd was the first dark take on Judge Dredd. The movie is awful. Y'all done there, James? Yeah. It sounds to me like James Gunn has been cancelled, Gundam style.

Absolutely he has, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. That was more. Should we go more? Yeah. I want to say my catchphrase again. Okay. I have problems with both of Nolan's films.

I know I said that one. But I said it first, Batman. The Tim Burton Batman movie is poorly written. The soundtrack is the worst work of everyone involved. I agree. And it's absolutely one of the most boring films ever. So I think the print stuff is like not good in that. I agree.

But what about the Elfman stuff? Oh, yeah. Well, it's got the iconic Elfman Batman theme. So, yeah. Not only that, but the reveal of the Joker as the killer of Bruce Wayne's parents spits in the face of Batman's origin. about the alfman stuff oh yeah no well it's got the iconic alfman batman theme so yeah not only that but the reveal of the joker as the killer of bruce wayne's parents spits in the face of batman's origin and is a nullification of the bottomless thirst for vengeance that necessarily that necessarily drives batman it pretends not to be campy but is completely so that is something we

agree with it is it is like it's goth camp but i think what you've failed to factor in here james is that uh james gunn is now the head of the new DCU. Yeah. And so all his opinions, like, whatever it is, they count against him. So I'm afraid to say that James Gunn, you've been cancelled. Gundam style. On top of everything, the dark creature of the night

can't even move his fucking neck. Give me a fucking break. It's a ridiculous, awful film. Burton's Planet of the Apes is genius in comparison. Oh, yeah, and Jack Nicholson as the Joker is Jack Nicholson in Shining with shitty clown makeup. Fuck you, everyone involved in that travesty. And then he says, I think Batman Returns,

this is in response to some comments, I think Batman Returns is messy but a much more fun and better film, and Batman and Robin is better than the original Tim Burton Batman. Not an opinion, a fact, and I'm not saying that Batman and Robin doesn't suck. Wow. So there you go. Also, like, he's openly talked about how,

and his brother's talked about this, how he's changed over the years. Like, he used to be a much more cynical person and, like, Then he got rich. Yeah, he got rich. Well, that and also, like, that definitely. But, like, how the Rocket Raccoon character is, like, a reflection of his evolution as being a cynical and kind of like a nihilist kind of approach and how he's become more optimistic and open and all of those things.

Yeah, yeah. And also he's allowed to think all of this stuff. I don't care at all, to be honest. I also don't care at all. And also he may have – But James, it's not up to me. Oh, yeah, you're right. So I'm afraid James Gunn.

You've been cancelled, Gunnumstar. And Bioli, the dog. That's right. Yeah. It doesn't – honestly, who cares? And also he may have changed his mind. Like I was like, there was a time when I'm like, I don't like that first Bird and Batman movie.

But, you know, now I'm like, yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. You get it. I get it. So, yeah. Also, you're allowed to not like movies that your current employer makes. Absolutely.

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This movie being out, but we're here now, aren't we? That's right. Teenage Mutant Ninja Tur now, aren't we? That's right. We're here now, aren't we? Yeah. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem. That's great. On a budget of $70 million. That's a lot.

Very reasonable. Box office returned only $138 million, but as we talked about last week, this has done a billion in toy sales this year. Ah, yes. So I don't think they care too much. I think there's going to be a sequel, TV series, and then maybe another movie. I don't know. So basically animators on think there's going to be a sequel, TV series, and then maybe another movie. I don't know.

So basically animators on this were paid properly and not overworked. Apparently Seth Rogen and the team went out of their way to do this. Love that. We know recently with Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse, they nearly killed everybody making that movie and underpaid and everything and then not credited properly. And what I think is just, first of all, it's interesting that that can be done.

It's very evident. Which part? the non-crunch yeah that can be done and everybody can work reasonable hours and also the movie can be quite good and i think also he learned from sausage party because his last animated movie apparently a lot of like that was like bad conditions for everybody make that or he just he was in it i can't remember but yeah but um so yeah i remember. But, yeah, so, yeah, I think it seems as if he, you know, he learned from that and was like, well, that's maybe not the way to make a movie. And maybe he didn't know about the specifics of what was going on. Maybe he did.

Whoa. I don't know. Seth Rogen seems like a cool dude. Yeah, he seems pretty cool, doesn't he? Because he doesn't have kids. I've talked about this. That's true. Evan Goldberg, don't really know anything about him.

Could be cool. Probably cool. Let's assume he's not a cool dude. Maybe he's less cool than Seth Rogen. Maybe he is. And like Seth Rogen goes to parties and stuff with Evan Goldberg and stands next to him so people think he's even more cool than he is. Which ironically makes him less cool.

Oh really? Makes him a bad guy. Oh wow. Yeah, that's right. It's hard being cool. Or trying to be cool. I don't know. Because if you're trying to be cool, you're not cool. I completely agree. Give it up. Mason, what do you think the story was? Oh, come on, mate. Yeah, come on.

All right. Well. Just don't worry about your migraine. Just do the thing. You know the Ninja Turtles? I know them. It's that again. Yeah, but with a twist.

They're actual teenagers? And they're in their grubby era. Everybody is. Yeah, everything's so grubby and hairy and slimy. Especially Splinter. Oh, he's awful. He's awful. He's slimy. Especially Splinter. Oh, he's awful. He's awful. He's awful.

I'd hit him with a broom, I can tell you that much. A big part of this story is that Splinter was, like, never accepted by the human world because he was a rat and then he was changed into a rat man. And I'm like, yeah. Like, even for a rat, you're awful. Oh, my God. Yeah, so this is early days for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

New continuity, obviously. New continuity. We get a slightly tweaked origin story for them, and it's sort of we cut in on the Ninja Turtles story when they've just been spending all their years underground. They haven't really gone out into the world, and they haven't started crime fighting yet. And they're like, but they've heard tales of this villain

called Superfly who's doing a series of crimes across the city and they're like, well, if we stop this guy. We'll be cool. We'll be cool and everybody will love us. April O'Neil thinks we're cool. Everyone else will think we're cool maybe. That's right. Yeah, absolutely.

That is the story. And like it does start traditional in terms of Ninja Turtle stuff but why by the time you get to the end and the way they leave it up in the air a bunch of stuff not like oh what's gonna happen next i mean it is that but they really like throw a bunch of canon stuff like there's real curveballs in here which i liked i've said this before i said this when we talked about the michael bay ones recently that i appreciate that with the ninja turtlestles there's so much you can change and every version of it does bring something interesting, I think, to it. And I think this is obviously no exception.

Yeah, I think at this point you could not – I don't think you could be mad that a version of Ninja Turtles breaks with the origin or the various pieces of canon because there's been so many different versions. If you're like, well, I can't believe they didn't do it like the original Mirage comics from the 80s yet. Well, nothing has really. Yeah, that's right.

Nothing is really exactly that. And at this point I don't think it ever will considering now it's wholly owned by Nickelodeon. Absolutely. But I think also we'll probably still get comics which are kind of set in that Mirage continuity at some point or reflect that. I mean, we talked about it recently in the Book Club.

The Last Ronin, yeah. The Last Ronin is very much like an extension of the Mirage early era. That's right. Somewhat, sort of. Yeah, I think one of the things that worked. Oh, did you like it? I liked it, yeah. Yeah, good, right?

It's good fun, yeah. If I had two criticisms. Actually, I've only really got one criticism. Yeah, but what if you had two? Okay. Probably one of them would be you got a migraine. I got a migraine, but I don't think that's the movie's fault. I think it's all the bad decisions that led up to me.

Interesting. You know, all the caffeine I consumed before I went into the movie and nothing else. But I think if I had one criticism, I think that there was some exposition that was happening during the action sequences that I couldn't understand well like there was some audio that and again i i often wonder if that's the fault of the cinema totally you know the speakers in the cinema yeah um but uh but i don't think it really matters it's more like it's sort of a you know it's whipping about it's whipping about it's like it's a rollicking romp yeah you know and there's moments where you know the the

turtles themselves are you know they're they're riffing and they're kind of you know having a fun time as teenagers do and it sort of devolves into just absolute gibberish yeah and i'm like well that's teenagers isn't it like that's and the reason it is like that is because they recorded whenever the they recorded the four ninja turtle actors who were children actual teenagers ninja turtle boys yeah in the same room. Right. And often they'd be like, this is kind of the scene, but just do whatever.

So that's why it does feel like that. And, yeah, there were times with me I'm like, I miss that entirely. But I also think, like you said, I think it often enhanced the believability of those characters. And I guess the question is, and this is an important question, before we get to the animation style and whether it's revolutionary or not, is teenagers are annoying. Yep.

Did you find these Ninja Turtles annoying? No, not at all. Same. I think there's been more annoying versions of these characters. The Michael Bay versions. Yeah, very annoying, especially in that first movie. Yeah, definitely. But I think the fact that they were teenagers made it less annoying to me.

If this was adult written dialogue said by adults, this would be a fucking nightmare, like awful, unbearable. But it does feel so authentic and there's this kind of infectious energy to the characters which kind of carries over into a lot of the film. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that kind of teenage energy is like, because even I know the animation direction for this was draw them,

like model them like you would draw something as a teenager. And like even little things like in the credits, there was a lot of like Ninja Turtle sketches and it looked like they'd been drawn by like kids, some of them. And I just saw a bunch of them and was just like, that's exactly how I used to draw them when I was a kid. I just, yeah, I thought, I think that element of this was a real strength. Like I know Seth Rogen said he wanted to lean into the teenage element of it

and also the mutant element of it. Because a lot of this is like weird mutant gross grub era. Yes, absolutely. That's kind of, that's this version. It's not martial arts heavy. I mean, it is. There's a lot of fighting in it, but that's not the focus of this particular version.

Apparently Seth Rogen learnt that thing about recording from the Lion King. They recorded all their stuff in the same room. Wasn't he just learning lessons all over this guy? I mean, I didn't get it. Oh, I learned a lesson from Sausage Party. Oh, I learned a lesson from the Lion King. You don't think it's good for a person to learn a lesson

and move forward? No, I think it's good for a person to learn a lesson and move forward? No, I think it's good. Okay. I was being sincere. Yeah. And I thought it was nice, but I have no practice doing that, so it sounds sarcastic. Okay.

Absolutely. Okay. How do you feel about even like bringing April O'Neill, like making her younger as like a high school student? That was cool. Yeah. She's from the Bear. It's Io Adebri.

She's from the Bear and she's in Bottoms, which I don't think is out here yet. No, from The Bear. It's Io Adebri. She's from The Bear and she's in Bottoms, which I don't think is out here yet. No, it's not. It's having a big year. Big year. Theater Camp is another movie she's in. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

All over the place. Yeah, I mean, incredible cast. We should name the Ninja Turtles, I guess. So it's Mika Abbey as Donatello, Nicholas Cantu as Leonardo, Bradley Noon as Raphael, and Shimon Brown Jr. is Michelangelo. And I think all that went. I also liked how they didn't completely party up the Michelangelo character.

Yeah, right. Like there was, you know, you got the sense that he was like the laid back kind of like party guy, but it wasn't like, whoa, what's up? Because that as a modern teenager, that doesn't exist. People aren't like that. I mean, it probably never existed. I don't know any teenagers currently. Well, I do.

But they seem accurate. My nephews, just to clarify. I'm not out there. I'm not out there meeting teenagers. Right, right, right, right, right. All the teenagers I make friends with by offering to buy them cigarettes, they all act like this. I think it's very accurate.

Yeah. But let's talk about the art style. How did you feel about it? Did it immerse you in this universe? Yeah, I loved it. It was great. It reminded me of, I think i talked about this last week the toys i'm seeing them on the shelf yes and it's like ooze and wood and yeah weapons and grime incredible textures it looks like just a just a just a pencil coloring in yeah incredible you can see those brush strokes

i liked and and again like like spider verse they've clearly been like if someone has an idea, they're like, well, let's throw it in. Like if the characters are watching a movie, just put the movie in. It's a real movie. Put the real movie on screen. Probably easier. Yeah, yeah. Or if you bring in at one point there's a little couple of cameos

from some real-life people as cardboard cutouts and they just it's just them it's just they're not drawn in the ninja turtle in this universe's style of all gross weirdos and yeah i don't i can't find the tweet but someone i i sent it to myself and immediately lost it um but one of the character designers on this movie just put up a bunch of stuff on Twitter of like assorted character designs, like background extra designs. And I love how they're all different shapes and like odd caricatures and just great. Absolutely.

I think there's a lot of stuff in common with the original movie in terms of that, just odd bod kind of, but also like a realism and a grittiness to it as well, even though obviously this is animated and that is not. That was real. That really happened. They filmed that for real. Yeah, I think that worked really, really well.

I think also this is going to sound like an insult, but this is the worst splinter we've had. Right. And I mean. Voiced by Jackie Chan. Yeah, in the way that like he's just a gross, dumb, like, he means well, shut in. Yeah, right. But he's like, he's not a ninja.

Yeah. He's not like, he wasn't a man who turned into a rat. He was like, as in some traditions, he was a New York rat. Yes. And as in the tradition of Michael Bay, he learns Kung Fu in a strange way, or ninjutsu in a strange way. In this version, instead of out of a book, they learn it from martial arts movies.

Yes. Which reminds me of that movie with Stifler, and he had Kung Fu powers or something. Bulletproof monk. Yes, that's the one. Because that's where he learned his martial arts mason. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. What did you think of that version of Splinter? Yeah, now look, now that you've mentioned it, like I guess the character is sympathetic in that he is a weird shut in. He's had a bad time. He's had a bad time for literally 15 years and he doesn't know anybody and he's like he loves his know anybody and he's like, he loves his kids.

What I appreciate it is that it wasn't the splinter from the Bay style movies where he's just a weird torture freak where like the kids mess up and he's like, stand in a, stand on a, a, a ball for 10 hours or whatever. Like that's weird. Absolutely. Yeah. You're looking for that. Yeah.

Character designs. We'll just, we'll just hang out. Oh, this is James L. Castillo. Okay. Character designer. There's all these various, yeah, just a round of police and FBI guys. Spongebob? Yeah, there was a guy in a Spongebob costume and a, God, I just love all,

and just people like him, you know. Was Mr. Beast in this? Apparently. I don't know which one he was in. I think I heard he was because he was the guy who thought Splinter was real and tried to pull the thing off. Oh,. Was Mr. Beast in this? Apparently, I don't know which one he was in. I think I heard he was, because he was the guy who thought Splinter was real and tried to pull the thing off. Oh, is that Mr. Beast? Come on, Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast,

what are you up to? Putting a Ferrari in a thing, whatever he did this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's great stuff. Also, like, the various freaks. So there's Superfly, voiced by Ice Cube, and then there's a bunch of other, like, characters you might recognise from the original show and other places,

but most of the original show and toy line. Mondo Gecko. Really good. One of my favourite bits is when Mondo Gecko met Michelangelo and they instantly had this kind of really cool kind of vibe together. I really liked that. But, I mean, this is a great cast. I mean, most of them are barely in it.

Yeah, well, that's true. I mean, John Cena is rock steady. Seth Rogen has taken a role as Bebop. Yep. Leatherhead is Rose Byrne because I guess they've done a lot of shows. They've done a bunch of stuff together, yeah. A lot of shows and movies together and they just like hang out, I guess. Interesting that Leatherhead is both a girl and Australian.

Yeah. And also – An alligator? I think she's an alligator. Yeah. Is Leatherhead an alligator? Oh, you think it should have been an Australian? I don't care. Like a girl and Australian. Yeah. And also. An alligator? I think she's a, is Leatherhead an alligator? Oh, you think it should have been an Australian. I don't care. Like a crocodile.

Whatever. Okay, right. But that's. Like a mutant alligator would maybe think that they're Australian. Oh, okay, right. Yeah, maybe. Who knows? You're absolutely right.

Yeah, interesting. It's interesting because the voice performance sounded like Kate McKinnon to me. Oh, okay. Because it's that bad Australian accent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clearly Rose Byrne's gone. Like I guess the instruction was lean really heavily into being a bad Australian caricature.

Yeah. Because at one point she cooks up a bloomin' onion for someone. Yeah. Which, to be clear, is a dish that does not exist in Australia. No. But I guess that would be what an american mutant you know so yeah that is off they're all weird freaks yeah yeah i really liked ray filet even though voice by post malone like barely in it but just that kind of sing-song approach that they

they took to that real um jason derulo yeah of vibe. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And the music was composed by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. From Nine Inch Nails. Yeah. And they've done, what did they do? The social network and various other things, but that's a great get for this. That's true, yeah. What did this cost this

much? What did they do? What do you mean? The deal here. It's just a lot of talent. Oh, you mean, why was it's just a lot of talent oh you mean why did it's caught why was it so low yeah i think it's probably got to work with seth rogan and also they're just in a they're just in a room they're just in a room yeah yeah should we get into spoilers or anything else you want to uh look i think i would just say um it's probably my second favorite of the movies yeah i mean i mean, I liked it a lot. I think the action is perhaps more sparse than you'd think it's going to be. Yeah.

But there is like a really fun action montage in it. Really good. Where they have to, they're like, they're trying to track down clues that'll lead them to Superfly and they have to go through a bunch of gangs and it's just kind of like this montage of them. And I think that was really kind of cool and stylish and like and i blended really well together i thought it did yeah there's some really cool cuts in that and then just seeing them just tear through normal people but then when they come up against like another mutant they're like oh actually maybe

we're not very good yeah maybe the mutant stuff has been doing a lot of the work here yeah right for us yeah look and again i think you know all credit to the the main four guys i think they're really cool and interesting i think they that worked really well so yeah i definitely if you haven't if you didn't see this in the movies already it's on streaming or you can steal it but really maybe maybe buy it yeah you know maybe it did all the right things yeah yeah well exactly like i I feel like if you're going to support anything, it's a lower budget movie that is good and didn't destroy the people making it. Absolutely. As far as we know. As far as we know.

Yet. Yet. At the time of recording. So I'm going to say best movie ever. Where would you rank it in the Turtles movies? All of them. I have like nostalgia obviously for the first one. I don't even know if this is, you know, to me that's my favourite

but that's because I grew up with it and whatever but so to me it's second. I think it would also be second for me. Did you like the 2007 animated one? Oh, the one with Patrick Stewart is in it. Yeah. Not really. I'm a man from the past and I've got stone helpers.

I don't like that at all. It's alright. How did you feel? You saw this with your son? Yes. What did he think? He loved it. Okay. It was incredible. Did you have to go and –

Explain the Ninja Turtles to him? Yeah, no, you would not do that. Did you have to go on Spotify and look up all the songs that were in the soundtrack? Yes. And then find clean versions of them? Some of them, yeah. Because like the – what was the last thing we saw? Oh, it was the Super Mario Brothers movie that has – Oh, oh yeah and rise of the beast has a few in that yeah oh

that's right yeah like i can't put that one on yeah no that's right like there's yeah the there's a because i'm for censorship that's true you are you are very much for censorship yeah yeah but this again it was very heavy new york based soundtrack so it was like anti-up by mop which is like absolutely quite rude It's a rude song. It's quite rude. You shouldn't let your son sing along to the uncensored version of that. But he does have that What's Going On. He's got that. Which is a nice song.

And Can I Kick It? That's a nice song. Yeah, I put that one on there as well. Anyway, spoilers. Just like in the tradition of all great movies set in New York including the movie Joker which is actually set in Gotham, I guess, technically. But isn't that something, something, something?

New York comes together like they did at the end of the movie Joker to kill Bruce Wayne's parents. Yeah, that's right. But this time it's to kill a big fly. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Look, I knew it was coming. We all knew it was coming.

New York went New York style, baby, and I think I thought that was great. Everybody got together, all the first responders and the delivery guys and the taxi drivers and all that. They all teamed up. That's right. Everybody teamed up. I thought that was nice. I remember when Splinter kissed the bug.

Oh, yeah. I thought that was nice. Was it? Yeah, it was nice. Oh, wait, yuck. Scumbug. What I loved about that is there was, I don't know if you saw, there was a minor outrage, which means it was probably nothing

because I'm too online. Oh, because Splinter was gay. Splinter was gay. But Scumbag is a lady. Yeah, but even that, like, what's the worst element of that, do you think? It's a horrible bug person. Right.

Why would that be the thing that. Yeah. It's a mutant rat. It's a horrible mutant rat kissing a horrible some sort of bug thing. Yeah, a stink bug maybe. Yeah, maybe. I don't know.

Yeah, but then like often these – as these things go, the turtles, they stay in the shadows. They don't interact with like a lot of real people. And then at the end they go back into the shadows. And it's only April O'Neil and like maybe one other guy. Will Arnett. It's Will Arnett, yeah. But this one, they go to school.

They go to school again. They get found out and they just live normal human lives and I think that definitely doesn't work for every version. No. But for the way that these were written. The Michael Bay ones couldn't fit through the blotted door. No. They'd kill everybody.

They'd kill everybody. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was fun and nice. I completely agree. And a fun new continuity and, yeah, they're teenagers. And They'd kill everybody. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was fun and nice. I completely agree. And a fun new continuity. And, yeah, they're teenagers. And they want to go to school. They want to go to school.

So that makes perfect sense to put them in school in the next movie if they're going to do another one, you know? Yeah, I guess if there was a complaint about any of the continuity, it's that all the mutants now live in the sewer in the same house. Yeah, I guess the, you know. And even Bebop and Rocksteady who were. Oh, yeah, so in this. But that can be changed yeah so whatever i mean i'm sure people will complain about this but yeah so in the in you know in previous continuities all the mutants sort of

mutated over a period of years yeah and some are human that turned into mutants and some are animals that turned into mutants and you know bebop and rocksteady were famous know, a couple of punk guys that turned into their, whereas in this, they were all like test tube babies. Yeah. And they all mutated pretty much at the same time. They were all 15-ish. Yeah. And also I guess they've sort of skipped Bebop and Rocksteady

being Ninja Turtles' nemeses. They're just sort of, you know, they had a little scuffle and now they're all friends. They'll probably come back to that. Yeah. I wonder if maybe, because at the end, of course, we get a little glimpse of Shredder. Post credits.

Who was going to be in this initially, but I'm glad they didn't need it. Yeah, and I think that you're absolutely right. Yeah, and so perhaps they'll turn to Shredder's side briefly. Maybe he'll lure them in with promises of cigarettes and so forth to be their best friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And arcade machines and skate parks and so forth. be their best friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And arcade machines and skate parks and so forth.

That would get me smoking. You show me an arcade machine, I will punch a dart for you, no problem. That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I wonder though because, again, the box office of this is not great.

Right. Whether this is the version that they go forward with. But I think they should. I think this could like Spider-Verse also grow. But I think they should. I think this could, like Spider-Verse, also grow. They're also, we talked about this last week, but they weren't able to promote it and they reckon that affected probably 15% of the box office. Yeah, right.

For this, I think that's very possible. I mean, it wouldn't shock me if Rogan and Goldberg are just pitching the next one and they go, you know, the boys, we did the boys, by the way. Oh, yeah. We did Preacher and we did all this other stuff. They've got multiple seasons and everybody loves it. So maybe give this. Yeah.

Give us one more. And bearing in mind we sold you a billion dollars worth of merchandise. I think the show is happening regardless, though. Yeah, right. Oh, with the same voice actors? I believe so, yeah. That's cool. Animated.

Animated, yeah. That's cool. I love that. I agree. It would be cool. Little Easter eggs. Oh, yeah. What have you got? Well, I've only. It would be cool. Little Easter eggs. Oh, yeah. What have you got?

Well, I've only got that. Eastman Laird stuff. Yeah, there is some. Signs for Eastman and Laird and whatever. It's Eastman High School and Laird something else. Laird Academy. Laird Academy or something. But Maya Rudolph is Cynthia Uthrom.

Yes. The head of TCRI. She's a Krang, Mason. She's probably a Krang. She's giving me those Krang-style glasses. Do you think she's Krang Krang or an Uthrom Krang? I think it's the second one. Do you. She's a Krang, Mason. She's probably a Krang. She's giving me those Krang-style glasses. Do you think she's Krang Krang or Neutron Krang? I think it's the second one. Do you think she's Lady Krang?

Oh, like they've changed to swap Krang. Or that's just like a robot body. I think regular Krang is Lady Krang. Is Lady Krang a lady? I'm assuming so. I have no idea. I mean, it's a brain, so who knows? It'll upset people, so I'm saying yes.

Good. It'll upset the worst kind of people, so I think- Me? Yeah. I think Krang has always been a lady fair enough well i love that there's a bit of fun got some reviews here if you're interested i am it's from nate harris who says hashtag with your planet pod it's amazing what people can create uh when they genuinely care about what they are making teenage mutant ninja turtles is for sure the best movie ever. Isn't that exciting to see?

It is. This one, Forgotten Leftovers, who says, Hashtag with your planet pod. My four-year-old patiently waited to see the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem and it did not disappoint. Lots of fun and the mid-credits scene blew his mind. He cannot wait for the sequel. Hashtag best movie ever.

And Josh Drury says, Hashtag with your planet pod. Went to see Mutant Mayhem over the weekend. It was easily the best movie ever. The soundtrack was as good as the pepperoni pizza looked. Oh. Damn. Hashtag working planet pod.

I think I said that already. It does get you hungry for pizza. It really does. So, yeah, all in all, I think this is a very successful outing. Should we move it along? Yeah. Oh, okay. How about this?

Turtles co-creator Kevin Eastman appears in a voice cameo as the citizen that helps Splinter during the climax. Get up, rat. Yeah, get up. Get back in the sewers, you freak. You broke your foot, rat. You broke. Yeah.

That's right. I agree. Yeah, nice. Go. Great cameos. I agree. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today. What are we reading today?

What are we reading? What are we going to read? What is it? Yeah. Stuff and things. Mostly, this is where we talk about things we've been reading and doing and saying. That's right.

Oh, yeah. We alluded to it up top. We missed a very obvious metaphor in the Robocop 3 video. I don't know if you remember about dogs and fire hydrants or whatever. Wow, is this the apology episode? No, I'm not apologizing. We should have done a notes app apology. Let me tell you this, about dogs and fire hydrants or whatever. Is this the apology episode? No, I'm not apologizing. We should have done a notes app apology. Let me tell you this.

Let me tell you this. All right. Because they got up early, BigSandwich.co, I knew this was coming because all the early comments were that, and I'm like, I can remove this. James, what have I said? I've said if I ever make an error, all you have to do is get that AI to replicate my voice and correct the error.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can make the AI say anything. It wasn't just you though. Wow. It was two errors on both of our parts. Wow. But then I thought it's Robocop 3. Robocop 2 didn't do great.

It got suppressed by the algorithm. Yeah, right, right. So I let it ride. Wow. And so far it's been worth it because it did better. But let me end up just because there's a YouTube in-editor thing. You clip it ride. Wow. And so far it's been worth it because it did better. But I might end up just because there's a YouTube in-editor thing. You clip it out. Yeah.

In hindsight, I'm like, it's amazing. It's kind of incredible that we missed that, that we both missed that. Oh, because Frank Miller, the writer of some of the Robocop sequels, some parts of some of the Robocop sequels, some of the scripts, said that a script is a fire hydrant and everybody involved is dogs. All the dogs come and piss on it or whatever. Okay, right. He didn't say piss on it.

No, he didn't. And we were like, oh, okay. Because I would say traditionally dogs don't piss on fire hydrants in Australia. No. They just piss on the ground. Most of our fire hydrants are in ground. Yeah, or in building. In building, yeah.

Like in the city, they're in, like if you've got a building, you've got a fire hydrant in it. Exactly. So we don't have fire hydrants. We're sorry we're not as worldly as people who live only in america yeah sorry sorry you know sorry we don't sit on a piss stain fire hydrant eating a slice of bad pizza in new york city baby sorry we'd love sorry we'd love to do that but i that is also something like i know that you know that i had a migraine yeah you had a mig you know that but also I had a migraine yeah you had a migraine as you know

I've had this migraine for a decade at this point it's weird we started doing the podcast and I just got a migraine every day forever I love that yeah me too

Mason go on here's something we've got a tweet here that will relate into the next thing it's from Mr. Hand Wash who says good by the way

that you wash your hands I reckon you boys unless it's ironic then that's bad. You boys should do a 10-minute chat for Ahsoka episode each week on the Weekly Planet, hashtag Weekly Planet pod. I didn't watch it. As I haven't seen any of the animated shows in this week's pod,

it was very helpful. I did watch it. I don't really have much to say. We'll probably do a recap at the end, or we won't. We might not. Oh, yeah. But after watching another okay episode of Ahsoka- How's the conversations?

How's the dialogue sense? Incredible. Do you mean bad? Yeah, it's whatever. Like, I think it will probably get better. But also, I don't care if it doesn't. Right. But I know a lot of people talked about how, like,

this version with Rosario Dawson is really stoic compared to, like, Brevins and Deputations. Yeah, we didn't really talk about that. But I wonder if the instruction there was, okay, well, it's an Ahsoka who's been through a lot. And that's, I mean, surely. Probably done a lot of lightsaber fights. Yeah, like Dave, you know, Dave Filoni created the Clone Wars stuff, right?

Yeah. And obviously he was one of the hands behind it. And he's also doing this. So surely he wouldn't misunderstand his own character so badly. Yeah, I assume not. I mean, a lot of people wouldn't have. Yeah. But I'm saying.

She's definitely more stoic in the rebel stuff as well. So I think isn't the, I would have said isn't the point that she's been through a lot of stuff and so she's now at a stage in her life where she isn't like. I assume so, but that also doesn't necessarily need to equate with like this isn't very interesting. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, somebody can be stoic and interesting.

Yeah, exactly. People think that of me. They see me and they're like, look at this guy. He's a pillar of strength, but he's very interesting. I hear that of me. They see me and they're like, look at this guy. He's a pillar of strength. But he's very interesting. I hear people say that. Interesting. But anyway, after watching another episode where I was like, okay, whatever,

I went, you know what, I'm going to watch Andor. And then I just watched all of Andor by accident. Wow. How long did that take? Wow, like 12 hours? No, it was like over like a number of days. But I don't really rewatch Star Wars. I don't watch the shows again.

And it was fucking incredible. It is. It's better than I remember. And I really liked it the first time. And you feel things when you watch Andor. And there's like tension and emotion and you like people and you like people you should hate. And you go, that's the guy from the bear.

And then you go, that's the guy from the bear. And then you go, that's the guy from the bear, you say to yourself. Yeah. And just people come and go and if you get shot with a blaster, guess what, you're dead. Yeah. It's not like, oh, I'll be all right. No, you're dead. You died.

If you're going to escape from a prison facility and then you get out the door and you realize there's water and you can't swim, you're dead. Or you might be in the next series. Yeah, you might be in the next series though. Yeah, I just think, and look, not every Star Wars has to be Andor. I know that. But I just think it's just – it might be the best Star Wars, just the best Star Wars just in general.

Even more than Star Wars Episode I, First Star Wars, A New Hope Star Wars Episode I. Damn, that was a good one. When they went to the Senate and they went, there's too many trade federations happening. No, no, Episode I, the first episode, Star Wars episode one. The one where they said, Jabba the Hutt, what are you doing here? Give me a gun.

Yep. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. That is a good one. Yeah. What have you been doing? I've been watching Andor. I've been watching.

No, not what. I'm sad it's over. Now I've got to wait a year maybe, probably more for more Andor. Probably more. Fuck. I mean, unless. And it could be bad. Yeah, yeah mean, unless. And it could be bad. Yeah, yeah.

It could come back and it's bad. Unless Tony Gilroy makes a movie in between then and now and it gets like 80% on Rotten Tomatoes and then they fire it. Andor season two. I've been watching a series. It's on Stan in Australia, but I think it's on Peacock in America. It's called Killing It. It's just got a new season.

Okay. It's Craig Robinson and Claudia O'Doherty as two people. Love that cast. Yeah, as two people in a snake hunting competition. Okay. But it's the – I've seen this pop up. Yeah, yeah.

So it's the guys behind Brooklyn Nine-Nine, which is why Craig Robinson is there, Dan Gore and the other guy. It's why Craig Robinson is there, Dan Gore and the other guy. But it's more about like it's sort of about how like the system is rigged against people who don't have anything in the first place, which is why they're in this snake hunting competition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like Claudia O'Doherty plays like a rideshare driver who has like a billboard on the back of her car like on a trailer,

but she also lives in it. Like at one point Craig Robertson's character is just living in a gym because it's cheaper kind of thing. But again, it's got that Brooklyn Nine-Nine level of comedy but it's also like a completely different environment and it's just like. Is it funnier than Brooklyn Nine-Nine? Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Yeah.

Good. I think it's at least as funny. Good. Yeah. What do you think about that? Like great probably. Yeah, great. If you've watched it.

Excuse me. I will watch it. If I saw it come up, I'm like, what's this? Oh, yeah. I like these people, but now I will watch it. Well, there you go. I don't think I've read anything this week. I don't think I have.

You don't have to. No. Let me tell you. We are going to read for the book club. Some Robocop maybe? Some Robocop versus the Terminator books. Yeah, we probably will. So that's exciting.

They're not on Comixology either. That's annoying. Oh, we're going to have to steal them illegal style. No, we won't though. We'll get them illegally. Well, I have my paper copies of the original somewhere. That's really helpful. For me it is.

You can photocopy them? Yeah, I'll photocopy them. You can scan them and send them to me? Yeah, I'll go down to school. Yeah, that'd be great. I'll photocopy them. Cool, just black and white is fine, whatever. Yeah. I don't care. Colour's only a possibility. I'll photocopy you. Cool, just black and white is fine, whatever. Yeah.

I don't care. Colour's only a plus 50. I said I don't care. I don't care. Okay, that's great. This is bonus content. Who cares? Oh, no.

Is this still in the podcast? Oh, no, Mason. Oh, no. Sorry, go on. Oh, I am going to read. I have a copy on the way of the Sandman Mystery Theatre Omnibus, which is so everybody knows Sandman, the Neil Gaiman kind of the Sandman Mystery Theatre omnibus, which is, so everybody knows Sandman, the Neil Gaiman kind of mystical Sandman.

Yeah, he fought Spider-Man, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there was also a series sort of throughout the 90s called Sandman Mystery Theatre, which was a- Can you come and see my one-man show? Not that Sandman. Not Sandman and Flacco. It's unrelated, James.

It might be related. It might be related. But this is about the golden age Sandman, theacco. It's unrelated, James. It might be related. It might be related. But this is about the golden age Sandman, the guy with the gas mask and the gas gun and the trench coat and the hat, like the old school one. Who's sort of in some of that bleeds over into Neil Gaiman's Sandman, the gas mask. Yeah, so this Sandman, because he was an actual 1940s superhero character, but it's since been retconned that he got prophetic dreams

through the Sandman, the Neo-Gamer Sandman. So it's a little bit mystical. It's cool. I haven't read it in a long time. So what is it? Sorry, it's a. So I'm getting the omnibus. So this is like the collective edition of all of them.

Black and white? No. Sick. Full colour. Full colour. Can you copy that for me? Yeah, I'll photocopy it for you. In black and white.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. Great. Anyway, so I'm excited for that. That sounds really good. I'll photocopy it for you. In black and white. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. Great. Anyway, so I'm excited for that. That sounds really good. I'll let you know how it goes. I've got some things that I want to try this week, one particular game, but I'll talk about it next week, hopefully.

Great. Because I'm like, I want to talk about it, but I want to play it first. Is it Armored Core 6? No. Looks hard. No, it's not Star Citizen. I have to do a thing and whatever. Starfield.

Whatever. I don't care. Well, it seems like you care a lot, actually. Maybe I do care. Yeah. Maybe it's something I would want to. Whatever, I don't care. Wow, seems like you care a lot. Maybe I do care. Maybe it's something I would want to try, but I don't want to run it on my PC and I don't have an Xbox 400, whatever the fuck the latest Xbox is.

It's the Xbox 400. Great, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I just love people being like, I hate this game. Bethesda have let me down again. Yeah, they do that. That's what they do. Yeah.

We all should know better, but we don't. Yeah. And apparently it's got some good stuff in it. I've heard it's got some good stuff. I saw somebody say Skyrim in space and, you know. Great. Pretty. I mean, and it's also that thing of like.

You can just play Skyrim outside. That's true. At night. Underneath the stars. Yeah. I don't know. Like, again, I think for a lot of video game stuff, especially the huge AAA titles, it is a case of.

This is junk? No, but you've got to wait until. They fix it. You've got to wait until they fix it. But also you've got to wait until they fix it. That's the number one thing. You also have to wait for all the media who have been given early access and a lot of perks and a lot of stuff and favorable treatment

who've said this is nine out of ten this is ten out of ten this is the game of the year whatever you have to wait for all those to go through then you have to wait for the fanboys who hate everything to be like this is one out of ten this is the worst game in the world and then you have to wait a bit more and then you have to wait a couple i personally have to wait at least a couple more months before like sensible yeah thinking sets in and people go, oh, yeah, generally this is pretty good. It's pretty good. I liked the game Days Gone, they say. They do say that, yeah.

Yeah, they might say. Cyberpunk 2077 is playable now, they say. Yeah, I've heard they fixed it maybe. I don't know. Find out. We'll find out. I'll never know. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't encourage this behaviour. And it's not because I'm bitter. I mean, it's making me think you are it's not, you're not listening should we move to the next segment of the show? is it the lettuce segment? we introduced a new segment that I'm not familiar with

I think I introduced one earlier but I've already forgotten what it was that's devastating news that's what it's called, it was called oh no that's devastating news we should do that oh no Devastating news. Oh, that's what it's called. It was called Oh No, That's Devastating News. We should do that. Yeah.

Oh, no. We just used that clip from seconds ago. That'd be great. Should it be sarcastic though? No. Let's make it genuinely devastating. How about this? It's a segment called Oh No, That's Devastating News and one of us brings a piece of news and at the end we have to guess

if that person was being genuine or sarcastic. So we're like, oh no, that's devastating. This person died, blah, blah, blah. And then you go, sarcastic? And I go, nailed it. Correct. It's good that guy's dead. Bit of fun? That could be fun. Anyway, this one's called Letters, so I'll play the theme. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like this. Watch out. Faded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this. Oh, letters, we love you. Nothing's in letters. They're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. I've got a migraine, all right? What were you thinking on that fade-in?

I thought it would be a cool fade-in. I thought it would be smooth on my brain. Well, then it was cool. Yeah. If you do want to reach the show, hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter. That's right. Or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. This one's from Shinzaimon Le Criminelle. Do you think that's French for something?

Don't know. Okay. Who says, please tell me you've watched one piece live action. My number one favorite Australian after Thor Hemsworth and, of course, Wikipedia Brown. I watched one episode. Uh-huh. I really liked it.

Okay. I probably talk about it next week. As a guy who loves everything and knows everything about anime, how did you feel? Well, obviously, like, it's true to the narrative. I'm like, I remember that this guy, he's a rubber boy. I knew that. Is he?

Is that his thing? What do you mean? He's like a Gumby guy. Is he? Yes. The guy with the straw hat. Yeah. One piece. When you say he's a Gumby guy with the straw hat. Yeah, One Piece. When you say he's a Gumby guy.

He's rubber. He's a pirate. I mean, he is a pirate too. Oh, interesting. He can stretch and shit. Huh. He's like invulnerable. It's the thing because I've never seen any One Piece,

but I'm sure I've seen like if you Google One Piece, it's the guy with the straw hat and it's a red shirt or whatever, but you never see him do a Gumby thing. I've never seen him. I'll be like, if I saw, if I Googled One Piece and it was that guy and he was doing a Gumby thing, I'd be like, oh, he's a Gumby guy. I get it now. I see the appeal now. Anyway. Are you doing a bit? No. I think it's, oh, here we go.

Look at all this Gumby stuff this dude's doing. Oh, my God. Yeah. Anyway. But did you Google One Piece Gumby guy? I wrote One Piece Stretch. It's the thing that he does. He had a weird fruit.

Can everybody else do a thing like that? No, it's the thing he does. But can other people do other weird things depending on the fruit that they eat? I don't, yeah, maybe. I mean, I do know, but I'd hate to spoil it. Oh, yeah, no, fair enough. He's a thing he does. But can other people do other weird things depending on the fruit that they eat? I don't – yeah, maybe. I mean, I do know, but I'd hate to spoil it. Oh, yeah, no, fair enough. He's a Gumby guy. He is a Gumby guy.

That is true. On account of the fruit he ate. Yeah. Okay. Do you think it's a ploy to encourage children to eat more fruit? It could be. Because if you do, you become a Gumby guy. This didn't look like any fruit I'd ever seen.

But, yeah, I think it's also like it's got a very specific tone and rhythm okay remind me of um reminded me of kung fu hustle uh let me ask you this which i didn't like yeah i don't remember liking that but i i liked this so i think if i went back to kung fu hustle i'd probably be like do you get it now do you think it may be the mood you're in as you watch it maybe but i wasn't in any kind of particular mood when I started it. All right. Yeah. Damn, damn, I would have kind of liked to not know

that he was a Gumby guy before going in. It's pretty early. Okay, right. So it's not a reveal. I mean, it was to me. Yeah, right. Absolutely, yeah. Maybe it's better for my state of mind that I know

he's a Gumby guy going in. Is it like, you know, in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World where initially it seemed, if you didn't know anything about it, you hadn't seen the trailers, you'd think it's just like a romance but then it turns out it's a weird video game fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a bit like that. Okay, interesting. I guess, yeah. Anyway,

we'll probably talk about it next week. Yeah, okay, I'll give it a go. Yeah. Is it Gumbico? What else you got? This is from William from Scotland. Scotland? Hi James and Maceo, as the new Doctor Who specials and new Hunger Games. The first Hunger Games film are both coming out this November. I wondered if you would complete the trilogy of Doctor Who Hunger Games episodes.

The first one was episode 9 and the second one was episode 60. I think it would be pretty funny if the third was in the 500s range. I would love that. And it will be. Yeah. I mean, if they're coming out the same week, then definitely. Yeah, because we did that for a couple of, yeah. At least two Hunger Games movies. At least two Hunger Games movies. At least two Hunger Games movies and a couple of either Doctor Who specials

or like debut new season episodes, something like that. We'll do that. I'm excited to, like as always, I'm excited to watch new Doctor Who and then switch off pretty quickly. Absolutely. Me and you both. That's exciting. Me and you both, brother.

Oh, yeah. This one's from Christine who says, oh, the Dragon Con 20. Christine, I knew. The singer? No. Huh, interesting. I can't confirm that, but no, from this picture, no. Okay.

I was at Dragon Con 2023 and was hoping someone would notice and that all my hashtag chronic pain would be worth it. That sucks. I'm sorry to hear that. Hashtag weekly planet pod, I'm now watching Bluey. So if you'll see here, Christine has worn, I've bring it up mason because i closed the goddamn i thought i had the tweet but then i took the link out of it what am i thinking i'm a moron james i don't think you're a moron thank you i appreciate that christine is wearing the uh the rope pope cop t-shirt oh

dear it's too niche that's why i think there's a good chance that you might get recognized there, but rope cop is, yeah, that may be why. But, no, we appreciate their support, and I hope you're doing all right. Yeah, I should get that shirt. There's, you know, there's other implications behind that shirt. Yeah, like his famous catchphrase. His famous catchphrase. But, yeah, no, thank you so much. Do you have a tweet, Mason?

James, I'll find an email. All right, while you're doing that, I got this from, actually this is a bit of a longer one, so I'll wait for your email. How about that? I love that, James. I love that. I bet if you didn't have a migraine, this would be quicker for you. No, it'd be longer actually.

Okay. It'd be longer. All right. Because you'd be like actually trying as opposed to now you're just like just find anything, whatever. I don't know, man. Who cares? Who cares? No one cares. No, I care just find anything, whatever. I don't know, man. Who cares? Who cares?

No one cares. No, I care. All right, okay. It's an email from Simon who says, you got me a job, brackets, not really. Hey, guys, in my quarterly review at work today, I found out that my boss also listens to the podcast. What?

Later on in the same meeting, he upgraded me to a permanent contract. Coincidence? Yes, but I felt good about both things. Please can I be the official person who is finally eligible for a mortgage of the podcast that's sick man that's from simon on two counts that's really cool man that's right yeah yeah we definitely helped i think so yeah what's the job doesn't say doing something shady yeah absolutely okay probably illicit drug dealing oh there's a drug dealer yeah yeah yeah damn i was only going to give you a casual position as my assistant illicit drug dealer.

Now, permanent position. Permanent position. That's right. Until you go to jail. Or, yep, or get shot on the main streets of New York, baby. Oh, my God. But in the meantime, sit on that piss-stained fire hydrant. Which is the thing they love.

Yeah, they love that. They love it. Got a tweet here from Benson Made who says says hashtag weekly planet pod i met a fellow aussie melbournian in the uk this week he's all trained up for a trip this winter to antarctica with a british antarctic survey he told me australia no longer funds trips or science research like this anymore that's why he was here why is this uh do you know much about this no this is a great question so basically basically, at the beginning of 2022, the then federal government, which is the Liberal Party, announced that there was going to be an $804 million,

there was going to be $804 million over the next decade spent on the Australia's Antarctic division, right? Right. And the finding basically allowed Australian Arctic scientists to continue undertaking significant world-class research in terms of environmental management, in terms of climate change, and basically how the fragile Arctic environment was dealing with all these things that was happening, right? And the announcement was apparently a response, really, though, it seems as if, to Russia and Chinese expansion into Antarctica.

So it was two-pronged. It was like, well, this is for the environment, but also it's also some geopolitical maneuverings. Right, yes, please. That's what's happened there. That sounds like a maneuvering worthy of a Tom Clancy novel. No doubt. Now, in late July, though, of this year,

the Australian Arctic Division sent out an email saying that staff, to staff saying they can't afford all of their current positions, apparently due to it needing to find $25 million in savings for some reason. And the federal government then, which is a new government now, it's the Labor government who came in, I want to say March to May of last year. Who knows? It's been an eternity. It's been an eternity. They came in and said, listen, no, no jobs will apparently be lost here despite them needing to save $25 million. So the idea is that for the moment, there's less people potentially doing more work. And as a result of this is also, I mean, that's bad, obviously, for the people who are working there or lose their jobs.

So apparently they're not going to lose their jobs. their jobs, though apparently they're not going to lose their jobs. But also that in turn could lead to gaps in the data, which is obviously devastating for climate research because this isn't something you just want to put down and then pick up a few years later. You need to follow trends to get a momentum going. This is something you need to follow. So there's actually a Senate inquiry into the current funding management

of the Australian Arctic Division to figure out what is going on here. But it's also, as mentioned, it's not clear how the federal government can say, listen, nobody's going to lose any jobs, but also you have to cut $25 million in funding. It was all very vague. Like cut off the heaters. Yeah. Maybe you could probably cut off the heaters off. Yeah. Just put two pairs of socks on. But basically the idea behind Arctic funding is that there's no real money in it, really.

That's the idea behind it. And it's only going to be bad news. It's going to be like maybe climate change is bad. And quite frankly, governments don't want to hear that in general. That is true. So, yeah, if you were wondering why, that might be what's happening. Plus also there might be a The Thing situation. There might have been a The Thing situation.

And that would probably cost at least $25 million To burn one of those Ghoulish fucks out of a facility And then they might have got out anyway You don't know Because it's The Thing Anyway, anything else? I bet I can find another email

I bet I can That was just all the top of my head I like to keep abreast of what's going on Is the top of your head in your laptop screen? No, no, no, no, no, no. These are just my extensive notes I've already taken from previous, just in general. This is from Brent.

Brent! Brent says, hey, James and mate, so have either of you guys checked out Batman The Audio Adventures? It's a comedic radio drama podcast with two seasons so far and ten episodes each. I think it has some real inspired casting with John Leguizamo as the Riddler and Brent Spiner as the Joker. I like that cast.

A mix of campy comedy with seriously dark situations and the voice cast really brings it to life. I've never even heard of that. Well, I heard about it because it's got John Leguizamo in it and our friends over at Missions X, Leguizamo they covered it with Mark Bonanno from Auntie Donna. They said it was good?

This email says it was good. Yeah. I think the mix of campy comedy and dark situations is perhaps not for everyone based on the review that I heard on their podcast. But, you know, they committed to experience everything John Leguizamo related. Absolutely, they have to.

Has that email got anything about people being stuck in the mud at Burning Man? No, but we can talk about that if you want. Do you want to talk about it? Yeah. What's going on? I don't know, man. Chris Rock was there or something.

Oh, yeah. And another guy, a couple of famous guys. They just helicopter him out. Escaped at Burning Man, helicoptered Burning Man. Somebody said Ebola was happening at Burning Man, but I don't think that's true. Yeah, that's probably like it could be just a little display that they're doing, a little experiment.

You know, not an experiment. It's a little artistic expression going on. To give people Ebola. Yeah, I mean, it's probably like it could be just a little display that they're doing, a little experiment. You know, not an experiment. It's a little artistic expression going on. To give people Ebola. Yeah, I mean, it's Burning Man. You know how anything goes. Yeah, that's true. Including Ebola. I mean, Burning Man never looked appealing to me,

but this is just like, my God. It's a new fire festival. You know when you see like music festivals and it's just all people in the mud and the tents? Just fuck no. No thank you. Bloody hell. Here's an email from Michael. G'day from Sydney. G'day mate. Hey Nick and James.

G'day mate. G'day mate. G'day mate. I've been a long time connoisseur of your YouTube channel and the podcast. Around the end of the last year I decided I'd go back and do the whole thing starting in episode one and working forward while also keeping up with the new episodes. Whoa, episode one, that's us. That's right.

The only ones I've skipped are ones I want to watch first before listening, like movies and such. I understand that. Just finished episode 100. I noticed so far there's been no announcement about you having sponsors, which means you probably didn't have any by this point in the show. Yeah, not at all. Which is weird because all the episodes so far have had ad breaks in the middle. It makes me wonder, did James have to go back through all these episodes

to find edit points for the ad breaks? Collings did that. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, at a great personal time. Yeah. Michael has said, if he did my condolences, to help take the sting off that,

I promise to do one push-up for every one he had to go back to. Well, you didn't have to go back to any, so that's zero push-ups. We don't do any push-ups, yeah. Once I get to this first. Yeah, I don't know. Like, we did have sponsors back then. Yeah, we definitely did, but we took them out because what was the reason it's a few well probably big sandwich yeah big sandwich and i was even before that i think it was because like

it was also like we don't have to promote this anymore so we'll just take it out stop paying us to promote being paid in purpose yeah exactly that's exactly right yeah um yeah um i think also some of those sponsors were like technically you had to leave them in forever but i'm like no one's gonna check this some of these companies and some of those sponsors were like technically you had to leave them in forever. But I'm like, no one's going to check this. Some of these companies. And some of those companies went out of business. Or they folded into another company or whatever. Or the people who worked there now moved on to another thing.

So like, whatever. Also, we didn't a lot. I mean, a lot of stuff originally we didn't know you could get a sponsor for a podcast. Like for a long time, we didn't know you could get a sponsor for a podcast. We didn't know you could email like a movie studio and be like can we get tickets to this thing because we're going to review it we didn't know any of these things and then once we finally did we would show up at these movie premieres and there'd be people who have like one percent of our listeners and they've been going for years yeah and we're like that's right they have one listener that's right and

we're like we've been busting our ass for 100 listeners for five years. Yeah, no, you're right. So, yeah, basically if you want to go to stuff, just start a blog and just email and they'll probably give you one, depending where you are. I don't know how it all works. But, yeah, that's the same for screeners. You want screeners?

Just reach out. They're on their websites. They've got all their PR stuff. That's right. Yeah, I do less of that now because I can't be bothered. But, yeah, you can if you want to see stuff early and free. Or you want to go to the premiere of Indiana Jones and there's a whip guy there doing whip stuff.

Yeah, he whips for 20 minutes. It's a 20-minute whip show. He vastly overpromised how much whipping there was in the actual movie. It's true. There was probably one whip. There was one big whip. What was his name? Whippy Whip Show.

John Whip. Was that Whippy Whip? No, it was Whippy something. Whippy McNeil or something? Might have been Whippy McNeil. Yeah. Love that guy. Yeah.

He had a good attitude. I liked it. No, he did. He was great at whipping. No doubt. Yeah. There was nobody there who was better at whipping as far as I'm concerned. Absolutely.

Yeah. Claire got a bunch of the early sponsorships as well. That's true. She did all of that. She figured all that out and then we moved over to a provider which is Acast who now do most of the ads now

so Claire does less of that now because she's like, I hate doing this and I don't want to do it anymore I mean she gets ads but just for herself and her personal life so sometimes she'll be down the shops and somebody will be like, hey Claire, how's it going? and she'll be like, great Flora Margar's it going? And she'd be like, great. Flora margarine.

That's right. Now I have a koala mattress and you can get one too. Exactly. Anything else? No, that's a whole. Also, to be fair with those ads, we only ever did stuff that we like. Yeah, we like this. That's true.

Or we use this. There was so much that we still now. There's so much stuff that we don't do. Yeah. Great shadow legends. Great shadow legends. Which, you know what? They have so much that we still now there's so much stuff that we don't do yeah great shadow legends great shadow legend which you know what they have so much money i should do one i should do one i should do it and derive some enjoyment out of it and then do the sponsorship james what are you thinking i mean a lot of people play it that's true i don't know i find that i we've talked about this but like i find mobile games, and it's not all of them, but they're really predatory. And I don't like that element of it.

And again, it's not all mobile games, but it's most of them. So I don't want to involve myself in that. So for the moment, we don't do, and this might change depending on the product, we don't do anything that's predatory like that. We don't do financial advice. We don't do anything medical because we're like, we don't know. We've had stuff like- Yeah, BetterHelp with the psychiatry thing. Yeah, which i might even like because i bet help is coming here yeah like that's something

i like yeah maybe there would be good for you but i'm we'd have to do a lot of research yeah like does this actually help people or is it just like uh enough like if it's if it's just an ai going have you tried going for a walk or whatever yeah it's like but if it's like because i know often with these programs you you know you get onto actual people but better help is starting here in australia yeah and i don't know what that looks like yet so i'm not really comfortable with um with oh we also don't do alcohol like cbd stuff like drug stuff and whatever which which is not nothing that i have a problem with but it's just like i don't know i don't feel comfortable you took the prude advertising package.

I did. Exactly. Yeah. So now we just do boring stuff. That's right. Oh, ads. Yeah. But also all of that could change depending on what it is, you know.

That's true. And how much money they offer. How much money they offer. Anyway, what's next? The end of the show is what's next. Oh, my God. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it.

Did we actually do a podcast or did I zone out on my migraine and we didn't actually do anything? No, we did one. Okay, great. That's true. Yeah, you didn't say much. This is the first time you've spoken the entire time. Oh, no.

No, it's fine. I covered. Thanks. Folks, we very much appreciate you sticking around and we appreciate you telling your friends about the podcast and leaving a review, a five-star review, on your podcast, catcher of choice. You do it in app, and we'll read it out on the podcast.

And here's one. We'll read out anything, by the way. If it's five stars, we'll read it out. Justinator129 says, five stars, I gotta you a listener. I gotta you a listener. I was able to get my fiancee to not only recognize the names James and Mason, she now regularly watches Caravan of Garbage. I've been a fan of the podcast and YouTube channel for a while now

and very happy to get someone else on board. This is the daily fix of my life since high school. Daily. Doubling up. That's pretty good. Now let me ask you this, James. If somebody left a five-star review and then put in an ad for their own podcast, would we read it out?

Yeah, whatever. I'll do it. How's this one? I'll read this out. Yeah, whatever. I'll do that. We'll do it. How's this one? I'll read this out. Or just an in-joke that's like, hey, Dave, get your skates on and go down the park, you idiot, or whatever. And we'll be like. Well, the funny thing is you say that because this five-star review

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That's perfect. That is perfect. And now he's going to have to convince his friend to listen to the podcast because we've read that out. Exactly. I think that's cool. And thank you, Mark Johnson. That's right.

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