The Weekly Planet - 495 One Piece & The Rotten Tomatoes Scandal

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

Remember the time Netflix made an anime adaptation and people didn't immediately start crying and vomiting? That's right it was last week with the release of One Piece Season 1. In addition to review ...that we talk the big Rotten Tomatoes scandal, big monetary losses for Warner Brothers, Sam Raimi potentially directing Avengers: Secret Wars, Marvels What If Season 2 episodes revealed, Taylor Swift breaking records, trailers for Gen V, Godzilla Minus One, a new Pirates Of The Caribbean movie and more! Thanks for listeningThe Flash movie commentary out now on bigsandwich.co - also featuring bonus weekly shows, video let's plays, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start05:11 Big Losses at Warner Bros.15:30 The Rotten Tomatoes Scandal26:31 Sam Raimi for Avengers: Secret Wars29:15 Marvel’s What If? Season Two Episodes33:58 Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour Box Office Success35:24 Gen V (The Boys Spin-Off) Trailer38:48 Godzilla Minus One Trailer40:29 No One Will Save You Trailer43:06 New Pirates of the Caribbean Movie?45:51 One Piece Live Action Series Review (post credits and spoilers 01:01:11 to 01:04:01)01:04:01 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:15:40 Letters, It’s Time For Letters (Feat. Ahsoka Episode Four Review)James' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:14 Hey. It was too normal. So I had to be like, whoa, I'm crazy also. That was crazy too, actually. Yeah. So now I have to be more normal. Yeah, you've got to be more normal. Because I think when there's a duo, people require like a contrast, don't they?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Exactly. So you've decided to be wild and crazy guy today. Yeah, that's right. Now, normally I'm wild and crazy guy. It's true. So you're going to have to really ramp it up, I think. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Whoa. All right, that's too far. If you could. I'm leaning on my chair. Damn, dude, that's dangerous. Stop it. I actually do love leaning on my chair, legit. Clay's always like, stop leaning on your chair. You're going to fall over and bash your head.
Starting point is 00:01:48 And I'm like, I haven't yet, have I though? Like in the kitchen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. No, I've been in that. That's dangerous, man. I know. But I do it. I'm calling the cops on you, man. What? For what? For being dangerous. You could crack your head. I'm crazy. So you take two legs of the chair
Starting point is 00:02:04 off the... Sometimes, yeah. Damn, dude. Yeah. Wow. It's from my school days. Wow. Teachers were always like, don't land in your chair. And I was like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Like I said that under my breath. James, I'm going to have to take wild and crazy guy from you today and take it back because my wild and crazy... It's getting out of hand? Yeah, it's getting out of hand. I've given you too much power and I'm going to be a very sane and normal and sensible, wild and crazy. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Like a responsible level. Yeah, that's exactly right. Whoa, dudes. Surfing after the show? Sensibly. Maybe in a wave pool? Wet suit, life jacket, that little cable that attaches your leg to the board.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah, yeah. Well, you always have the cable. It's also a boogie board. It's not a surfboard. Okay, cool. Terrific. So this week we are going to talk about the live action One Piece series. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But leading up to that, we've got a bunch of news, including some updates in terms of how Warner Brothers are doing in relation to profits and losses this year. Interesting. But, you know, they're looking at the writer's strike and they're going, this is why we're not doing well. And, you know, they're looking at the writer's strike and they're going, this is why we're not doing well. And, you know, we'll talk about it. We're also going to talk about some stuff that's been cancelled
Starting point is 00:03:10 over at Warner Brothers. Uh-oh. We're also going to get into a big Rotten Tomatoes scandal from this week. That's right. I saw that. It's not like so much specifically Rotten Tomatoes, but it's how it can be gamed.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yeah. Yeah. We'll get right into that. And who is to blame for all the bad scores that your favourite movies might be getting for it? be gamed. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get right into that. And who is to blame for all the bad scores that your favourite movies might be getting for a TV show. That's right. Exactly. We're also going to talk about who the top choice seems to be
Starting point is 00:03:33 for Secret Wars. What do you mean? Like the director. Did I say that? Oh, no, you didn't say that. Who's the top choice? The top choice, yeah. For audience?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah. They're vetting the audience now. That's right. You're not allowed in. You're going to pass a test. They're going to ask you a quiz. Yep. They're going to ask you a series of quiz're vetting the audience now. That's right. You're not allowed in. You're going to pass a test. They're going to ask you a quiz. Yep. They're going to ask you a series of quiz questions about all the previous movies.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And all you have to say is, they're great. They're great. Yeah. I love them. When you did your driving test, was there like- Do you like driving? It's great. I love it.
Starting point is 00:03:58 You passed. They did like, when I did it, they did like a little electronic thing where it's like a simulator. Yeah, I did do that, yeah. But the driving instructor was just like, just wait two seconds and push the button. They're all the same. Just wait two seconds and push the button.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah, yeah, it was that, wasn't it? Yeah. Because it was also like early 2000s-ish, you know what I mean? So the touchscreen technology was not quite there, was it? Yeah. I remember I got. Don't drive directly into the truck. Just, just hit the brakes.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I lost a bunch of points on the test. Yeah. Not drop. Like I got downgraded. I still passed. Okay. Because it started bucketing down and I came to a roundabout. Oh, this is in real life.
Starting point is 00:04:37 This is in real life. And I couldn't see. Yep. Cause it was all like the whole thing fogged up and I had to wait for an unfog and I couldn't see any cars. And I'm like, oh, you stopped unnecessarily. Ooh. Yeah. And I'm like, fuck you and i'm like fuck you like is your breath yeah but i passed so i was like whatever like who cares but yeah well i think about that and i'm like that's unfair i was being said what just drive out i'm a maniac yeah i'm a crazy no i'm
Starting point is 00:05:00 not anymore am i you're not allowed You used up all your crazy points. I'm downgrading. So far, you're still going to pass. Okay, cool. But you've lost some points. We've got names for every episode of What If coming up. Oh, do we? Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Those have come out. I saw a list maybe yesterday. Yeah. And they looked badly structured. They are bad, yeah. Okay, the titles look very badly structured. I'm like, this seems fake. They might just be like ideas, I guess. Placeholders, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Placeholders, yeah. We're going to talk a little bit about Taylor Swift again, the big show that's happening. I love that. Are we... Yeah, we're pivoting. We're pivoting to Taylor Swift content? It's incredibly popular.
Starting point is 00:05:37 The Swifty Planet? That's where we go. The Swifty Planet's good because we can talk about Taylor Swift and also stealing things from stores. Oh, yeah. That's big at the moment, isn't it? Yeah, that's right. I've seen it in a lot of videos like that.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's hot tips on stealing. Trailers for Gen V, a new Godzilla movie, and No One Can Save You. Another Pirates movie is maybe happening. The Pirates of the Caribbean ones, and then One Piece, of course. Let's start off with this. Oh, there's time codes below. Colleen's who edits this. He's happy enough to sort it, I assume.
Starting point is 00:06:04 For now. For now. For now, yeah. This is my deadline. So Warner Brothers Discovery said on their Monday, September 5th meeting that the company is looking to lose approximately $300 million to $500 million in EBITDA, which is earnings before interest taxes, depreciation, and amortization. Because you might be like, why?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Is it because they had a series of bombs? I don't need to know. No? Okay, this is for everybody else. Okay. Because Barbie did well. Yes. But then most of their other properties have bombed.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Like Shazam bombed, The Flash bombed, Blue Beetle bombed. The movie Air, one of the shoes. They're like, we've got to make this shoot for Michael Jordan or he'll kill us. That kind of tension in that movie. Yeah. It's really like high stakes and it's like, it's just a shoe relax.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And we know you made the shoe. Yeah. You made it. A lot of us are wearing that shoe currently. So yeah, that's right. So, um,
Starting point is 00:06:57 did they make the shoe? Hang on. I'll just look down. They did make the shoe. I can leave. I can leave now. They made at least two. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:04 that's right. So, uh, they made two size eights. They did make the show. I can leave. I can leave now. They made at least two. That's right. So. They made two size eights. They didn't fit Michael Jordan and he was bad. So the suggestion was from David Zaslav, John and the Warner Brothers, that it's not to do with any of the properties. It was specifically the ongoing writers and actors strike is costing them money.
Starting point is 00:07:26 That must hurt. Yeah. I can only imagine. I mean, it's not costing him money personally. He's making like 500. He's making about that amount of money in bonuses and so forth. Insane, right? So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:37 In a lot of ways, they could essentially eliminate that loss by not giving him his $200 million bonus or whatever it is. Like that would cut out a huge chunk of that. I think you might be right. Now you think about it. It is weird how it doesn't work like if a studio does poorly. They're just like, here's your $100 million for the year. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Like what job is it where like really bad stuff actually, here's more money. Yeah. Well, it's a kick in the can down the road situation, isn't it? It is, isn't it? Like I don't want to get too deep into it, but the next quarter, you know, the quarterly report, it's like, well, we's a kick in the can down the road situation, isn't it? It is, isn't it? Like, I don't want to get too deep into it, but the next quarter, you know, the quarterly report, it's like, well, we cut all these costs, here's your money.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah. Like, it's whoever gets caught holding the bag in, like, five years when there's no more to cut and they're not making any money. It's like a webmaster pushed through Brexit, you know what I mean? Kick in the can down the road. That's right. Until eventually, like, I can't believe this person botched Brexit or whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And it's like, this is all rotten, like, through and through. Yeah. Anyway, enough Brexit talk, if you don't mind, Mason. I don't know why you brought that up. Let's move on to this in a segment of the show called Cancelled More Like Schmanceled, as in cancelled. Here's some things that were cancelled this week by a deadline. Cancelled More Like Schmanceled, as in cancelled?
Starting point is 00:08:42 I like that. That's good. That's catchy. We could put on a T-shirt. Definitely. If you get cancelled, which is very common these days, you could buy the T-shirt. Certainly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I think that's a little catchy. If you're in celebrity jail. Yeah, like real jail. Real jail, you could wear it in there. Yeah, absolutely. They'd probably give you your own clothes, like different clothes. But, yeah, if you're allowed to bring in your own T-shirt, you could potentially wear that.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah. Now, look, we do give you an Orange Prison Jump Super. You are allowed to in your own T-shirt, you can potentially wear that. Now, look, we do give you an orange prison jump suit, but you are allowed to wear your own T-shirts. You're allowed to pick a slogan T-shirt. You can reveal at opportune moments, for example. Some people go with the better out than in. That's fun for prison. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:09:18 One tequila, two tequila, three tequila floor. That's a good one, yeah. Kiss the chef you could go with, for example. Where's the beef? That's a good one, yeah. Kiss the chef you could go with, for example. Where's the beef? That's a classic. Kiss the chef as in the guy who learned to cook steak on a toilet or whatever. That's right.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Well, that's what it says on the back. It says toilet chef man, but you can't tell because you're wearing the jumps. Anyway, that's not porn. That's right, yeah. So anyways, this is my deadline. Warner Brothers Television has moved in to suspend the remaining overall deals with some of its top creators.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Oh, no. This is a cost-cutting measure because I don't know if you know because of the writer's strike, they lost $500 million apparently. Yeah, I heard about that. Yeah. I don't know how reliable the source was, but I heard about it. So the list includes... Some would say the source often doesn't know what numbers are. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Or what they mean. Yeah, absolutely. Unreliable. Yeah. A complete, like, skewed concept of reality yeah yeah okay i can see how you think that the list includes greg belanti productions who started the cw stuff yeah right uh bill lawrence's doozor productions he's someone scrubs scrubs and that new one oh he did uh extra scrubs extra scrubs double scrubs you know he did ted lasso but he did shrinking asso, but he did Shrinking as well, I think. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Which one was Shrinking? The one where Harrison Ford's like, I'm a gruff psychologist. Oh, yeah, that's right. Jason Spateman, whatever Jason you are. Jason Spateman. That's right. I'm a rough psychologist. I'm going to tell you the truth. Jason Segel.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Thank you. I think, yes. Mindy Kaling's Kaling International. J.J. Abrams' Bad Robot is also in the process of being notified, apparently. What are they even doing? In the process? It's weird because I thought about- They can't cancel my deal if they can't find me, J.J. Abrams.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I've been trying to- I was doing some, not intentionally, but just some rough research in a document about what he's been doing since Star Wars. Because he's gotten numerous very large deals. Yeah, and things that were in place before that. Yeah. It's like, which of the- What are you- He did that Spider-Man comic with his son for a minute.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Oh, that's right. Yeah. And I don't, I like, is he laying low? Like, I don't know. This is even before the strikes. Like, what is, what is he up to? I think he really got like hurt from what happened in the last Star Wars. Like emotionally?
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah, definitely. I think so. What do you mean? Like reputationally? I think that, and also I think it like, I mean, if you release that and then that was the response, like even if you were proud of it, you'd be like, oh, fucked up here, didn't I? Because I remember I saw an interview beforehand that was like,
Starting point is 00:11:33 we spent a long time trying to figure out how we're going to crack this and I think we've nailed it. I think we've actually nailed this ending. Yeah, interesting. It's just not that at all. Yeah, I mean. That would sting, you know. And I guess to a certain extent it was a
Starting point is 00:11:45 case of a lot of people didn't like the last jedi so let's let's do a course oh yeah it's not even just him that's not he came in so late like so late in the day and i think probably i mean you're probably right but i i imagine the this the situation was well okay this is massive damage control and you've got to do this and this and this you've got to make everybody happy i guess to some extent he probably went what's a tough call but i know what i'm doing and i think i can stick the landing on this yeah because everyone hated it yeah because he did like for the force awakens i know people like we've talked about it but like it did what it was supposed to do a lot of people saw it and liked it and i'm not talking like it's just like the other way i know
Starting point is 00:12:22 all that but people if you ask a normal person, they're like, yeah, it was fun or whatever. Yeah, yeah. That's the Millennium Falcon. Remember they found the Millennium Falcon? Yeah. He brought it back. Like, he really did. And it made a shit ton of money.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. Which is also because it's Star Wars. But anyway. John Wells production. So he was suspended in June. He makes Wells. Yeah, weird. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:12:42 But he should make water towers. Should he not? Maybe they're connected. Maybe it's the source of the water in the tower. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. He did like ER and stuff, I believe, and like the West Wing, I think. Anything in the present day?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Great question. Let's have a look. He also might not be any of that. I might have just imagined. We might uncover something. We might uncover a big deal here. Oh, John Wells, our story. No thanks.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I'll just go to the Wikipedia. Here we go. Early life, et cetera. Boring. 67. He looks like a guy who reads Tom Clancy novels. Nice. So he has done.
Starting point is 00:13:17 So he did this show called Trinity. He did Third Watch. He did The West Wing. Yeah, obviously. Southland. People like that maybe. Okay. Animal Kingdom. There you go. Oh, the TV series. Shameless. I should watch Shamland. People like that, maybe. Okay. Animal Kingdom.
Starting point is 00:13:25 There you go. Oh, the TV series. Shameless. I should watch Shameless. People like Shameless, don't they? Yes, they do. The Company Men. Don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:13:32 August. These are films. August, Osage County. I know the name, but I've never seen it. Love and Mercy. No. Burnt. Remember where Bradley Cooper's like,
Starting point is 00:13:40 I'm an important chef. We're both doing that. We're both shaking a pan of some sort. Onions, probably. Mine had eggs in it for some reason. Why are you shaking eggs? I don't know, man. Mine was sautéing onions.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Okay. Well, I was sautéing eggs. We learned that from the bear. Yeah, that's right. As of late, he was executive producer on Doom Annihilation. That was in 2019. So that was the last kind of movie thing. That one that looks like a fan film.
Starting point is 00:14:11 On Made? It was on the, Made was apparently really good. Like a really like harrowing, yeah, Claire really liked Made. And there's something that was TBD called Key New Road. Okay. I don't know. Right. Well, I recognize some of those. Yeah. Like a lot of these are hugeew Road. Okay. I don't know. Right. Well, I recognise some of those.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah. Like, certainly. Yeah, these are, like, a lot of these are huge. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, suspended. Oh, good luck, idiot. Chuck Law's production deal was suspended. Chuck Loray?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Loray, sorry. Okay. The two and a half man guy. Yes, was suspended in the first wave in May. So there were waves of this that happened. So, wait, what May? Did they strike in May? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:45 It's been, maybe. It's been maybe. It's been 128, 25? I don't know. As long as we're having a good time, which we are. I think we are. On this show. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so there you go.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. We're having a wild and crazy time. It is steady on though. Not me though. All your chair legs on the ground. All of them. I'm on one leg now. Oh, come on, mate.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Actually, you're defying the laws of physics there. Even I don't like this. No. But yeah, it's still like, I mean, there was updates about the writer's strike and the actor's strike this week, but it's just not happening at the moment. It's still like there were interviews from various studio heads that just like, well, we hope that it's fair for everybody and whatever. Sure.
Starting point is 00:15:23 It's completely stored. We're willing to do anything except pay people so if you want any other suggestions though we're open yeah maybe a foosball table in the break room oh yeah we can do that okay yeah and ever all the hundreds of writers can share it yeah maybe some bean bags oh bean bag imagine being at work but you're on your laptop and you're in a bean bag oh my god maybe you're in one of those chairs Like that's like an egg Like hung from the roof Like half an egg
Starting point is 00:15:47 Egg chair hung from the roof Yeah You know Yeah The perfect office conditions I got friends who work in like Those kind of spaces And a lot of like
Starting point is 00:15:55 Corporate gigs do that Like banks And accounting firms And whatever And like roving desks And they're like It's a fucking nightmare Sounds that way
Starting point is 00:16:03 Because like You don't know where you're going to sit. You've got to book every room. You don't have, like, a place to, like, put all your stuff. And if they rotate your desk all the time, you can't put your little bobbleheads in there. Exactly. What, are you going to put it out and put it there every day?
Starting point is 00:16:14 You'd forget it one day to be gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone put it in the toilet. Yeah. Want to cook a steak on it, presumably. Well. That's the fuel, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah. Anyways, more rotten tomatoes, more problems. That's what I say right? Anyways, more Rotten Tomatoes more problems. That's what I say. Oh, that's correct, isn't it? I botched that, but you get the idea. Now there's a big Rotten Tomatoes scandal this week and this was uncovered by Vulture in an article titled The Decomposition
Starting point is 00:16:37 of Rotten Tomatoes. Now they're making the claim that Bunker 15, which is a PR firm I've never heard of, have been deliberately manipulating the Rotten Tomatoes scores for multiple movies. The one they're talking about specifically was a 2018 Hamlet retelling starring Daisy Ridley called Ophelia. I've never heard of this. I remember the release of it.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I remember the stellar reception it got Yes Of 62% Yeah And we'll talk about how it got there Yeah So what basically they've been doing Allegedly Is in response to the most negative criticisms Of this film in particular
Starting point is 00:17:14 Bunker 15 Allegedly Allegedly I like allegedly Allegedly I like allegedly I like it so Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:21 Contacted a number of self-published critics Months later And offered them, months after it premiered or like can or whatever, and offered them upwards of $50 to watch and review Ophelia. More input from different critics. Exactly. That's how they framed it.
Starting point is 00:17:36 They didn't say here's $50 and say nice things, but that was basically it. In October of that year, an employee of the company emailed a prospective reviewer about Ophelia and said, it's a Sundance film and the feeling is that it's been treated a bit harshly by some critics. I'm sure sky-high expectations were the culprit, no doubt. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:53 So the teams involved feel like it would benefit from more input, as you said, from different critics, yeah. The Bunker 15 employee asked about this, said, of course, journalists are free to write whatever they like, but that super nice ones often agree not to publish bad reviews on their usual websites, but to instead quarantine them on a smaller blog that Rotten Tomatoes never sees. I think it's a cool thing to do. That is cool. It's indie.
Starting point is 00:18:18 It's underground. Yeah, yeah. So the idea being is if you normally write for a certain publication and you would have said that this movie was bad, instead you'd start a new blog on Tumblr or something where you put the reviews of stuff you don't like that gets no traffic. Perfect. Yeah, that is perfect. It's got zero SEO.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, apparently as a result of this, it was originally – because, you know, a lot of movies do live and die by that rotten score. I mean, supposedly or allegedly? There's never been any really extensive research, right? I mean, I'm sure there would have been, right? But I don't know. I think a lot of it is, I mean, it's a number of things.
Starting point is 00:18:53 It's marketing. It's who's in it. It's, you know, it depends on what it costs to make. You know, it's a number of things. Whether they're ads on buses. Yes, that's right. So forth. That's exactly it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Now, it climbed, though, Ophelia, to 62%, flipping from cotton to fresh. And the next month, the distributor, IFC Films, announced that it had acquired the rights to release it in the US. So what that also did was basically give that movie enough juice to get distribution, and which maybe, and I haven't seen it, maybe it's an amazing movie and fully worthy of the 62% that it's receiving. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:30 That's exactly right. It might not have happened like that. So if you look at the box office, I'm just looking at the box office here, it made $242,000. So I don't think any of this really worked anyway. No, no. But yeah, that's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So Bunker 15 founder Daniel Harlow, he came out swinging. He said, wow, you are really reaching there. But he's swinging. Yeah. Wow. You're really reaching there, and if you reach too far and I punch you, that's actually your fault because I'm just standing here punching. So I'm not punching you, you're
Starting point is 00:20:06 reaching in front of my punches. We have thousands of writers in our distribution list. A small handful have set up the specific system where filmmakers can sponsor or pay to have them review a film. Vulture also reached out to Rotten Tomatoes and since then the website has delisted a handful of Bunga 15's
Starting point is 00:20:22 movies, including Ophelia. Rotten Tomatoes says it prohibits reviewing based on a financial incentive. I mean, we talk about this every time there's a premiere. Yeah. And it's like every, almost exclusively, it's like this, and it's also comic book movies mostly. It's like this comic, this has changed the game. This is the best since The Dark Knight.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Marvel's done it again. Yeah. You know, if you love the MCU, they're back on. It's like that. literally but that is that is also that's a response to i think people going to the premiere and they get to get a photo with the rock and whatever yeah but then i think as a result of that then if you after those social media reactions and the reviews come out and then that i feel like that's for fairly accurate reflection a lot of the time yeah but i mean we all look at it i mean if you listen to this you you probably look at it, I assume.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Like, we use it. But I think, look, James, first of all, we're above it all, as you know. We see the whole plan. I think we look at the Rotten Tomatoes score, and I think- We look at the user reviews. That's exactly right. Psychos. But I think it's, like, the interesting thing I think about the critics' reviews versus
Starting point is 00:21:23 the user reviews, I think it's pretty apparent generally if it has a really low critic score and quite a high user score. Yeah. You can divine the real like the – Batman Superman. Yeah, well, exactly. It's the idea of like, okay, well, obviously it's fans who are super hyped to see a certain thing.
Starting point is 00:21:42 It's very much a franchise thing, and they're there to have fun, and it's often the super enthusiastic people who go opening day or what have you, and then the critics. Yeah, absolutely. What I like about this article is there were a bunch of, I think, interesting quotes about it. Okay. One was from Martin Scorsese.
Starting point is 00:22:03 It says about Rotten Tomatoes, it reduces the director to a content manufacturer and the viewer to an unadventurous consumer. And then Brett Ratner says it's the destruction of our business. Now, Brett Ratner, is Rotten Tomatoes the destruction of your business or is it the fact that when you go to your Wikipedia page, there's a whole tab that says sexual assault allegations? Which one could it be?
Starting point is 00:22:24 You think maybe the thing that's collapsing the industry that is Brett Ratner for Brett Ratner is the time that he would go to a buffet on a film set and he'd put his hands down the front of his pants and then touch all the shrimp? It might be that, yeah. Which is a thing that he did allegedly. Yeah, it might be that. It might be him outing actors or whatever. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:41 It might be those things, just as a funny joke, Brett Ratner. Maybe it's that. Maybe it's all the terrible movies he's made also. It might be the terrible movies he made. There was one here from Paul – there's a couple here from Paul Schrader. Okay. Who is a somewhat controversial filmmaker, but I think generally – What's he made?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Well, he wrote Taxi Driver. All right. And he directed a bunch of sort of Taxi Driver-esque movies. He directed The Card Counter, which was that? Oh, I've got to watch The Card Counter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Master Gardner. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:11 American Gigolo 1980. Okay. Yeah, I know this guy. So Schrader said, The studios didn't invent Rotten Tomatoes and most of them don't like it, but the system is broken. Audiences are dumber. Normal people don't go through reviews like they used to.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Rotten Tomatoes is something the studios can game, so they do. Yeah, I remember when Rotten Tomatoes first became a thing. I would go to the page, and I would look at all the good and bad reviews, and I would click through and read them. Yes. But no, I don't do that anymore. No. I mean, I do.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I'll skim quotes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's another Schrader quote in here somewhere. I'll find it. Oh, here we go. Also, Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Flickstar, which was acquired by Warner Brothers in 2011. It used to be Fandango.
Starting point is 00:23:53 So it's a parent. Yeah. And now Comcast own it, maybe? Right. Great. No, Warner Brothers retained a minority stake. Okay. So, yeah, it's also owned by a bunch of these.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah. Anyway, I like it. I think it's cool when you go by a bunch of these. Yeah. Anyway, I like it. I think it's cool when you go there. It's cool. Yeah. I'm going to find it. Give me one second. I'm going to find it.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Okay. One second's up. Come on, mate. Come on. Come on, mate. Just frying up these onions while I'm waiting. You can cut this out, Collings. I'm flipping it.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Oh, here it is. So this is from Schrader again. Okay. It says, I read some reviews of my own films where the writer might say that he doesn't think that I pull something off, but boy is it interesting in the way that I don't pull it off, said Schrader, a formal critic, which he was. To me that's a good review, but it would count as a negative on Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think we try to do that. We love a big swing and we like the idea that, you know, we might go, I didn't like this movie, but there was a great scene or there was a great performance by this guy or what a great line or a great joke or, like, what action sequence was good, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It's worth it for that. This isn't for me, but I can see how, like, yeah, this would totally work for somebody else, you know. But it's interesting. If I remember correctly, don't Rotten Tomatoes contributors get to decide if their review is fresh or rotten? Yeah, you do put that in. You flick a switch, basically.
Starting point is 00:25:10 It's basically like a yes or a no. Like a thumbs up, thumbs down situation. But isn't that just the gig economy we live in or whatever? Isn't it, though? Isn't it, though? Yes, it is. It is, yeah. Look, the way that I always judge a movie before I see it.
Starting point is 00:25:25 You always judge a movie before you see it? You always judge a movie before you see it? I always judge a movie before I see it, and I stick to that opinion, is that there are people that I follow, and often also I don't – actually, I don't even do this anymore, I would say, because I don't read reviews before I watch a movie. Yeah, right. It doesn't influence me. But what I would do if I'm not going to see something
Starting point is 00:25:40 or I don't need to immediately review it, I'll just go to those people. I'll be like, well, I know what they like and I know what I like. We're not always on the same page, but at least I know specifically what they're talking about. Yeah. That's what I think. If you're looking for like, if you're looking for like a idea of what to go into and,
Starting point is 00:25:56 you know, people that it's expensive. So, you know, you should, you know, then that's what I would recommend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I reckon, I think that's a good idea as well. You pick some reviewers that you, it's not even that they necessarily agree with you or your taste is the same. It's that they give you enough information to know whether you will like the movie or not. There's a reviewer, I think he's on Uproxx.
Starting point is 00:26:15 He's called Vince Mancini. Yes. And I will read his reviews and oftentimes I disagree with his opinion of the movie. But I feel like he always gives the amount of information I need to be like, oh, this will be perfect for me kind of thing. Absolutely, yeah. Like Komodo Mayo, I watch, and I'll often watch them now after.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I'll review something. He also does a podcast with Jack Howard as well, who I really like as well, his review. So, yeah, there's a number of people. But just have a root around. Have a root around. Yeah. Find your own commode in Mayo.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Also, a lot of the stuff that I watch the reviews of much later, where it can be broken down like six months to a year later and go, oh, yeah, that's interesting. I should have thought of that when I reviewed it. I'll take that and pass it off as my own opinion. I think that's good. Upon some reflection, I've thought this. And by reflection, I mean I listen to Komodo Mayo.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Good times. Also, Komodo Mayo makes me think of eating mayo on the toilet. Sure. I think that's cool. That is cool. Yeah. It's the perfect situation to watch a movie. Eating jail-made mayonnaise on the toilet.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That's correct. So this is via My Time to Shine Hello, who says, sources confirmed that Sam... This is your current favourite. This is what's coming up. Yeah. He's doing... She, they, I don't know who this is.
Starting point is 00:27:35 He's doing some big scoops. Your favourite rat. That's right. Confirmed that Sam Raimi is Marvel's top choice to direct Secret Wars. Now, I think that's great. I mean, look at the Spider-Man movies he made. I know a lot of people don't think this, Raimi is Marvel's top choice to direct Secret Wars. Now, I think that's great. Yeah. I mean, look at the Spider-Man movies he made. I know a lot of people don't think this,
Starting point is 00:27:52 but I think his Doctor Strange movie is really good. I think so too. It's a lot of fun and it's fun because it's not all him because there's other things you have to do, but there is a lot of him in it. And you don't often get that. That's true. In comic book movies or blockbusters in general. Like you see, there's a moment where he's got like a cape of often get that. That's true. You know, comic book movies or blockbusters in general. Like you see it,
Starting point is 00:28:06 he's got a, there's a moment where he's got like a Cape of ghouls. Yeah. There's just, there's good, there's good stuff in that movie. I think it's probably the strongest movie that there has been in this new, whatever phase we're in currently.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Whatever we're in. Yeah. Yeah. In my opinion, in this humble critics opinion. You mean, you mean commode and Mayo's opinion. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:23 maybe. It's been exactly six months, James. What do you think, though? I think that's a pretty good choice, yeah. He could do a weird thing as well, you know? Yeah. The only secret was his kind. It can be weird and, like, twisted and broken and multidimensional and whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And also who else they got, you know what I mean? Exactly. Who else is left? Who isn't exhausted? Who else haven't they burnt out? Yeah. Because you is left who isn't exhausted who else haven't they burnt out yeah because you need someone who isn't burnt out but so yeah because there's like a and i'm trying to think like there's a very specific kind of director you need you can't go too young because then you'll just walk all over them and then it's nothing yeah and but a lot of veteran directors
Starting point is 00:29:00 don't want to do it because of what they are yeah so sam raimi is like a really, he's one of the few that you could go to and he could probably do a good job. Yeah. And I also think that he probably has had that lifelong passion for making that sort of thing. And, you know, he did, obviously he couldn't get a superhero movie back in the day, so he made Darkman, which was sort of his audition for the Spider-Man movies.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And then he made the ones that are, you know, generally very well received. He got burnt by Spider-Man 3. But then I think he's probably like, he's someone who probably still wants to make that sort of stuff, but he wants to do it on his own terms. Yes. And he's got enough Hollywood juice.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yeah. A term we've invented. Toilet water. Toilet water. That he can probably be like, I'm only in if you let me do yeah a certain amount and i'm sure even during google cape yeah i'm sure during the process they're constantly pushing back definitely and like well this person has to be in it because they got a glove in the
Starting point is 00:29:55 previous movie or whatever you know well this person has to look like this because they're captain america now or what you know whatever but yeah you know whatever yeah but he would have had to do that with Spider-Man and everything else that he's made that's a property. There you go. All right. This is why the Nerd Rage podcast, here are the potential titles for the What If series,
Starting point is 00:30:14 which is maybe coming out this year. Great, I love this. First one is What If Gamora Killed Thanos? When though? Right at the end? About the same. I'm assuming when she stabbed him in nowhere, but she actually got him. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I don't know that. Or maybe when she was a kid. Maybe when she was a kid. Yeah. What if Captain Carter finds Hydra Stomper? Now, that's continued from season one. See, that's where it immediately lost me these times. What if Captain Carter found Hydra Stomper?
Starting point is 00:30:41 I don't know, man. Pretty wild. You mean the little robot thing that Steve Rogers pilots? I assume he's still in it. Yeah, sure. It's the Winter Soldier, basically. They're doing the Winter Soldier. But Steve Rogers is the Winter Soldier.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I guess. I don't know that. Yeah. What if the Tesseract landed in, I'm going to butcher this, Haudenosaunee Confederacy. So that is the Native American episode, which is going to have a new superhero. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Kihori is the name. Yeah. So instead of landing in a Norwegian village or whatever it went, it goes to here. Yeah. What if Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne fought the Red Guardian during the 80s? Great title. Great title Great title Really spells it out
Starting point is 00:31:28 Give us something Really, really Also like Really spoil everything there I feel like that I don't know Maybe they'd win or he'd win Or they'd be a star mate
Starting point is 00:31:35 Or they'd team up I don't know Don't you think Maybe it did happen In the regular Marvel universe I don't know Yeah Because they were all around then
Starting point is 00:31:42 It should just start with a black screen title card that says, to be clear, this didn't happen in the regular Marvel Universe. Could have, but it didn't. You might look at this and be like, is this just a regular, is this just a thing that happened? No, it didn't. It didn't. We're saying what if it did?
Starting point is 00:31:56 What if it did, though? What if it did, though? Yeah. Have you seen that deleted scene where it's, I think it's from Ant-Man and the Wasp, so the second one. Yeah. And it's Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, and they're in, like, Columbia, and there's, like, a...
Starting point is 00:32:07 No. It's pretty good. Is it when they're young? Yeah, when they're young. They're de-aged. It's a whole scene. Are they actually de-aging for it? Yeah, they've, like, finished it.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I've probably seen it. It must be on the Blu-ray or something, but I have only seen it on the Twitters. Do I have to buy the Blu-ray? No, you can find it on the Twitters. I'm rushing out now, Mason. James, no. I'm being reckless.
Starting point is 00:32:24 James, no. I'm running too fast. Why are you carrying those pairs of scissors? you can find it on the twitter i'm rushing out now mason james no i'm being reckless james no i'm running too fast why are you carrying those pairs of scissors stop it james no a responsible wild and crazy guy wouldn't do that here i've got an instruction manual on being the cool loose cannon wild and crazy guy i've got all the guidelines here what about this one read it and answer the quiz if you get it correctly you'll be a licensed wild and crazy guy i've got all the guidelines here what about this one read it and answer the quiz if you get it correctly you'll you'll be a licensed wild and crazy guy what if yondu delivered star lord to ego okay did we get that i feel like that's one we already know we got to charla yes with star lord and peter quill worked at a restaurant or something and then and then he turned up ego
Starting point is 00:33:04 turned up and when you're my son or whatever. That's a great title, by the way. But I guess that's not this continuity. Yeah. What if Happy Hogan saved Christmas? Iron Man 3, apparently related. I like that. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah. What if Wanda had grown up watching musicals instead of sitcoms? Oh. Slightly different, I reckon. And when you say grow up, you mean they were trapped in that apartment while the bombings were happening? While the bombing was happening, yeah, exactly. What if Odin and Hela had faced Wenwu, who's...
Starting point is 00:33:31 The Mandarin? The Mandarin? Okay, sure. All right. All right, great. If you want. Yeah, sure. I suspect it would go like that Red Guardian thing
Starting point is 00:33:38 where maybe one wins or the other wins or they team up. Yeah, that would be great, wouldn't it? Yeah. And the last one is what if the Avengers had fought Surtur, which Thor did? I mean, they'd win handily, I'd imagine, because he did it by himself. Did he? Surtur, he beat him the first time. Remember?
Starting point is 00:33:55 He, like, trapped him in the. Yeah, but he didn't defeat him, though. Yes, he did. He got his helmet off. He took it off. Oh, yeah. And then they let him out at the end. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yeah, okay, you're right. Pretty good. But it'd probably go a bit differently than that. I took it off. Oh, yeah. And then they let him out at the end. Oh, that's right. Yeah, okay. You're right. Pretty good. But it'd probably go a bit differently than that. I reckon. Anyway. They'd probably beat him or he'd beat them. Yeah. Or they'd team up.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Maybe. Yeah. Anyway, maybe. Delay waste to the earth. Maybe these aren't real. I feel like they are, though. There's been some images that kind of tie into this stuff and maybe someone extrapolated. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:21 So, you know, that's fine. I just a bit of... Maybe they saw the... You know what? Maybe they saw some thumbnails. Maybe they did. Maybe they were preview thumbnails and they went, oh, what if Captain Carter found Hydra Stomper?
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah. Because she's looking at the Hydra Stomper in the ice or whatever. She's like, oh. There is. Oh. There is. Ooh. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Are we going to reveal what those tentacles were? Or was that Doctor Strange? Was it a Doctor Gormath or was it a Doctor Strange thing? Or was it Ultron? God. With tentacles? I don't want to think about it. Well, too bad.
Starting point is 00:34:50 We're in too deep now. We can't quit. You're right. It's my THR. Taylor Swift, the Ears Tour. I wrote Ears Tour, which it might be. Is happening. They filmed it in August.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Speaking of an Ears Tour. Thank you, August. We're going to talk about that later in One Piece. Oh, yeah, we are too. It's an ears tour, isn't it? It is an ears tour. Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter they believe the film could open up
Starting point is 00:35:10 to a record $100 million based on brisk advanced sales tickets. That's just in the US. But they're also not ruling out that the movie ultimately grows to $150 million or more domestically. It's pretty good. So that would bring it in line with like Mario and Barbie for openings.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah. I think there could be a chance that this all, like you get all the Taylor Swift fans and it's like a huge opening and then a big drop off maybe. Sure, because everybody sees an opening weekend. But maybe they come back repeatedly. Yeah. This is not an audience that I know.
Starting point is 00:35:40 That's true, yeah. So I don't know. I feel like there were people being like Barbie's going to burn out straight away. And after seeing it, I was like, I don't think so. I'm a little bit concerned that we've made some assumptions about the Swifties and saying them out loud is going to bring their wrath upon us. We're being kind.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Like you saying there, well, it'll probably be a drop-off. James, no. Don't say that. It'll probably be a roaring success no matter what happens. That's right, forever. Forever. You make a billion dollars a week and she'll never die. God, that is just money for old rope, though.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I mean, I know there is a lot to going into filming a production like this, obviously, but like. But not a billion dollars. You know. I love it. Yeah, good on them. Trailers Ahoy. We've got one for Gen V.
Starting point is 00:36:22 We did, that's true. Which is What If The Boys But It's School. That's right. School for Boys. boys yeah but not exclusively no also others mostly people issue laces and whatever blood powers and mind reading maybe i don't know yeah yeah one's an ant woman how many soups are there in the in the boys universe i don't know i think they probably they make a bunch and a lot of them die or they kill them yeah and then some of them get through to school i guess yeah right because the the um the reveal in the show is essentially that uh the the company void yeah void voig voig john voig john voig uh vort there we go yeah that they sort of altered the DNA of a bunch of pregnant women's fetuses and then they-
Starting point is 00:37:08 And they'll often then give them back to families? Yeah. Or they'll just give them in a lab, which will later be homeland or whatever. But this seems to be a later generation than the generation that produced Starlight and A-Train and so forth. So I guess they did it for a couple of generations. So is this the last generation? Because if they've built this-
Starting point is 00:37:29 And we've seen babies. Yeah, so if they've built this institution, then clearly they're like there's going to be enough generations of this that they have to find a way to train them and contain them and that sort of thing. Absolutely. It looks like it could be good. It comes out end of this month
Starting point is 00:37:45 they're doing bad stuff to these kids sometimes they're like we thought we'd be going here and learning how to use our laser vision for good professor x guy or whatever you know but it's probably all like a corporation situation there also isn't a is there a professor x style guy not there probably is but i don't know which one i think if there was it would be like a guy pretending to be that oh yeah no absolutely not but it's interesting i think if there was, it would be like a guy pretending to be that. Oh, yeah, no, absolutely. Who's not. But it's interesting, I think if they are going for like a... Like a mentor figure that's really just a corporate... Yeah, like a school for gifted mutants kind of thing,
Starting point is 00:38:15 you would think that if they're going to do the satire of that, they would have a charismatic leader who's like that. But I guess they've used that, like Giancarlo Esposito is kind of... You know how they always wanted to be Professor X? Yeah, okay. He's always been fan cast as Professor X. He still could be, I feel. He still could be, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah. Also, apparently, didn't he mention he spoke to James Gunn about a role or something? Maybe. We talked about that last week in the DCU. So someone's got to step up. I don't know who it's going to be. Maybe we can get him on the show. We'll poach him.
Starting point is 00:38:40 We'll have him. You think? Yeah, yeah. We'll get him away. Marvel at DC. Right. Oh, as a host. Yeah, he can come in with us okay that sounds really good yeah he would love that i think yeah he seems like my way more of a like a like a laid-back kind of dude he seems really than uh than than every role that he's been sort of where he's a complete psycho yeah
Starting point is 00:38:59 absolutely where he's like this cool calculated psychount. Button down psycho. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it has sort of reached that point where, you know, all the fan casts are just, what's his character's name in Breaking Bad? Mr. Chicken? Mr. Chicken, yeah. Mr. Chicken. They're all like, hey, we should cast you as a Mr. Chicken guy. But I think his range seems to be a lot greater than that. I agree, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:21 He's Mr. Chicken. He's in one of the. He's in the Mandalorian. He's in the Mandalorian where he's sort of a Mr. Chicken guy. Yeah, he He's Mr. Chicken. He's in one of the... He's in The Mandalorian. He's in The Mandalorian where he's sort of a Mr. Chicken guy. Yeah, he's a Mr. Chicken guy. He's in one of the Far Cry games
Starting point is 00:39:30 where he's a real Mr. Chicken guy. He's a Mr. Chicken guy. He's a Mr. Chicken who's a sort of a dictator of a country. Yeah, okay. With Mr. Chicken vibes. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, he does do that Mr. Chicken guy pretty well. But I think he does it very well but I think there's more to him and I would like to see that. Yeah. There's also a trailer for Godzilla Minus One,
Starting point is 00:39:47 which is a Japanese reboot of the franchise. Yeah, and it's set post-World War II, I think. Looks incredible. It does, doesn't it? Yeah. The special effects are really, I don't know, with the visceral, tactile, good. It feels like there is a practicality to them, and I don't even know whether that's true.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Yeah. But it just feels like a suit-stomping monster. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what they've done yet. I don't know either. Looks good, though. Yeah, no, and it's sort of, they, I mean, I know, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:17 very little about Godzilla, you know, the Japanese versions of Godzilla. But if you know Godzilla, go on. But, I mean, I certainly know Godzilla 1998 or whatever it is. I certainly know that version. Remember they couldn't pronounce that guy's name? The Didopolis. Yeah, that's the one. Remember the bit where they go, that's a lot of fish. And it was. It was a lot of fish.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Anyway, I don't know a lot about Japanese Godzilla, but I guess it seems to be they're sort of reverting him back to being a monster and a villain. It's like the very early ones where he is the threat to humanity as opposed to the savior and maybe this is a series where they maybe this is a one-off maybe this is a series where he'll evolve back into being yeah the hero again yeah maybe in this he's just misunderstood you know he is uh it seems as if also because we've got some monarch legacy of monsters stuff this
Starting point is 00:41:04 week like some more information and images. That's the Apple series, which is set in the universe. We talked about it a few weeks back with Kurt Russell and his son, Kurt Russell, who played the same character called Kurt Russell, where I think, because we're recording this a bit early, there might have been a trailer for that at this point. I see. I don't know. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:41:20 But I'd say it's probably cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. And the last trailer I want to talk about is called No One Will Save You. Now, the only reason I wanted to bring this up, this is a horror movie. It looks good. It does look good, and it's a period piece that seems to be set in the 50s or 60s.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Oh, I didn't even realize. And it's like a home invasion, but spoiler alert, it seems to be like Little Green Room. It's E.T. It's an E.T. style situation. It's got Caitlin Dever, who I think is great. But the only reason I wanted to bring this up is because there is, if you go to YouTube and you search for No One Will Save You, there's a couple of different thumbnails.
Starting point is 00:41:55 One is a sort of a generic one. Yeah. And one is like a clickbait thumbnail a la Mr. Sunday Movies. Hells yeah. Where it's like it's got a picture of the alien you see at the end of the trailer. Yeah. Which is a sort of a big spin. It's like a little green man, but he's got big legs and he's threatening and it's got
Starting point is 00:42:14 a big circle around it and a red arrow. And it's like, oh, look at this. You can, you seen it? It's not coming up. Really? I've got this, like, I've got one that just shows the monster. Maybe they've changed it. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Maybe they've sneakily changed it a a la Mr. Sunday Movies. I would do that, and I have done that, and I will continue to do that. Yeah. Okay. No, I'm really not saying it. They've gotten rid of it. Those dogs. Maybe that's why.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I'll find it for you. I'll find it. I'll find it using technology. Did you say it was Nando V Movies who mentioned it? Yeah, I saw it from a friend of the show, N Nano V Movies, who was like, look at this, look what they've done. But at the same time, I probably would not have clicked unless I'd... Well, I did
Starting point is 00:42:52 click, because I had faith in it. Oh, yeah. It does feel a bit Cloverfield as well. Some people are like, is this a Cloverfield movie? And the answer is maybe. Yeah. Oh, it's only PG-13. Boo. Boo. We're going to have to see that lady's face get torn off. Yeah. Boo. Boo. Boo. Boo. Well, it's only PG-13. Boo. Boo. Boo. We're going to have to see that lady's face get torn off. Yeah. Boo.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Boo. Boo. Boo. Well, it's gone. It worked. Yeah. Because we're talking about it, aren't we? We certainly are.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yeah. All right. Should we move it along then? Anyway, it looks good. It comes out. That's right. I was trying to find the date of it. It comes out September.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And it's on Hulu. So even better. Great. Last bit of news, Mason. Yes. More Pirates of the Caribbean, if you don't mind. I don't mind at all. Do you?
Starting point is 00:43:27 You don't mind that? I don't mind it at all. You might. Oh, here it is. Here's the thumbnail. Oh, that's dreadful. I love it. To be clear, this is real.
Starting point is 00:43:34 No, I know. It was on one of the official 20th Century Fox channels. Oh, it was like an official channel? Yes, this isn't a fake one. This is a real one. Oh, my God. I thought it was like one of those re-upload channels. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. That's lovely. Yeah, it is lovely a fake one. This is a real one. Oh, my God. I thought it was like one of those re-upload channels. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:43:45 That's what I'm saying. That's lovely. It is lovely, isn't it? They're catching up. Good look at this guy. There's an emoji of the They're becoming self-aware. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah, I love that. Well, guess what, 20th Century Fox? Everybody's sick of circles and red arrows. That's right. They're sick of them. We already ruined it years ago.
Starting point is 00:43:59 That's right. Idiots. This is via LA Times. Craig Marsden spoke to them, who you might know as the showrunner of Chernobyl. I do remember that guy. But also Chalastovus. Two great shows.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Hey, don't worry about the apocalypse, Chalastovus, bro. Chalastovus. Yeah, kill all those doctors and doom the world, but Chalastovus, bro. You're too tense about all the murders I did. Yeah. And we're doomed, but you're last of us, bro. So Craig Marsden said, we pitched a Pirates movie to Disney.
Starting point is 00:44:35 He said, we pitched it and thought there's no way they're buying it. It's too weird. And they did. And then he wrote, I don't know who that is, a fantastic script and the strike happened and everyone's waiting around. This is interesting to me. That Craig Barson, who has exclusively made good things. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I mean, I think he also made a superhero movie or something at some point. Yes, absolutely. But obviously, you know, people like that one. In the present day. Yeah, yeah. He had to work on some slop. Yeah, and just the idea of like a very weird Pirates movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:03 In a new direction. Mm-hmm. Because those Pirates movies did go in some weird directions. Yeah. Not all of which were great. It felt by the end also like pretty uniform. I saw a video on it. Who had this video where they were talking about how it became like,
Starting point is 00:45:18 I think it was a comment I saw actually on a video. It was about the fake. Do you want to go any smaller than that? No. Okay. The video was. Yes. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:30 So it's by Fomento, and the video is Dead Man Tell No Tales, the imposter Jack Sparrow. And it's basically like the Jack Sparrow in that is not the real Jack Sparrow, whether that be intentionally or not, but it's a guy pretending to be Jack Sparrow because he's not. Oh, yeah. Like all the things that he's doing are kind of Jack Sparrow-esque, but it looks like he's doing a.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Jack Sparrow impression. Impression, yeah, which is true. And I think the comment was something along the lines of, after the first Pirates movie, they started writing Jack Sparrow. Yes. As opposed to letting Johnny Depp take the material and just do it in a. I feel that's the same way they started writing Doctor Who after a while. I feel like I've talked about this before,
Starting point is 00:46:06 but I think when they did the Eccleston and Attendant seasons, those guys brought a certain amount of cool to Doctor Who that they had not had before. It had been fun and interesting, but it was never cool. And then after that they're like, what if we wrote him as really cool and everybody thought he was cool? That's not cool anymore. When everyone told him he was cool.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah, and then all of a sudden that wasn't cool anymore. I mean, it's a bit cool. Yeah, but it's the same with this. It's like he brought that odd vibe. Like he clearly got a normal script and he went, I'll be a bit odd about it and strange, and people will respond to that. And they went, well, what if we made him the strangest, weirdest guy?
Starting point is 00:46:39 Yeah. Well, then it doesn't work as well, does it? Exactly. Yeah. So there you go. Pirates. Anyway, should we move it along? Yes.
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Starting point is 00:47:49 this is from Chris O'Donnell from Batman and Robin and other things but what was the first thing you thought of when you thought of Chris O'Donnell
Starting point is 00:47:57 yeah Batman and Robin and then it was NCIS whatever one he does Los Angeles yeah thank you yeah and then I just went
Starting point is 00:48:04 to LL Cool J. Same. Because he did that. He just blew us my head as like a shark fin. And then we thought of, of course, our commentary for the movie Deep Blue Sea. Correct, yeah, which we do have. And we have a commentary of The Flash. I think we mentioned it last week.
Starting point is 00:48:14 It's up now. That's right. And whatever else is the new thing at Big Sandwich this week. I think it's a year. I think we look at the year 1978 and see what the pop culture was. Surprisingly good year. A really good year, actually, yeah, in hindsight. Who knew?
Starting point is 00:48:24 Us, after we researched it. So Chris Sullivan actually sent this tweet and said, hashtag weeklyplanetpod at Wikipedia Brown and at MrSundayMovies, calling Luffy a Gumby guy was killing me. I need a One Piece review so bad. Well, here we are. Here it's going to happen. It's a bit late.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I mean, it would have been nice of you if you were famous. Yeah. And like a famous person out of us. Yeah. You know, like Barack Obama was like, let me be clear, be nice of you if you were famous yeah and like a famous person out of us yeah you know like barack obama was like uh let me be clear if you could uh do a review of one piece and i'm a war criminal i'd love to do a drone i'll do a drone strike on you if you don't do it that'd be so cool yeah you know and you know to be cool obama as well you'd have like a he'd be bouncing a basketball maybe
Starting point is 00:49:01 yeah yeah yeah be like i'm normal i'm not i'm not murderer. He'd be wearing some cool casual wear like he does now because he doesn't have to be the president anymore. Yeah, he doesn't have to be the president. Oh, my God. Imagine not being the president. Oh, dream. What would you even want to be the president? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Nightmare scenario. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, One Piece. We'd watch One Piece. Well, he wants to be the president of pirating. That's true. What do you think the story was?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Oh, come on, mate. Yeah. All right. So it's set on a world much like our world except completely different. It's very different. And it's mostly water. There's a lot of seafaring adventures. And there's a pirate out there and his name's like Golden Rob or Rich Gravy or something.
Starting point is 00:49:35 And he's like, I'm the king of the pirates and I've – but he's going to get executed by the world government because I don't like piracy. And before they execute him, they're like, but I'll tell you what, i've still got a treasure out there and maybe you guys could find the treasure and here's a clue is it love or something i don't think so i think it's proper i hope it's a real treasure yeah yeah he's like i've got a treasure out there and here's a clue to get it it's somewhere out there yeah everybody's like whoa i didn't know it was somewhere out there and so everybody in the world is like we're gonna get this Yeah. But then 20 years pass and nobody ever finds the treasure. Yep. But then our mate, Luffy, or possibly Luffy, depending on who you're speaking to,
Starting point is 00:50:11 is like, I'm a cool laid-back guy and I'm going to find that treasure. All I need is a crew because I've already got a boat. Oh, wait, my boat's sunk. Now I need a crew and a boat. Yep. Wait, this boat's not going to work either. I'm going to need another boat. Another boat.
Starting point is 00:50:25 And then he's like, I'm going to find this treasure with either. I'm going to need another boat. Another boat. And then he's like, I'm going to find this treasure with my... I'm going to collect some colourful characters along the way. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And I'm a Gumby guy. And he's a Gumby guy. Now last week, you mentioned this because you'd watched a couple of episodes ahead of me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And you were like, by the way, he's a Gumby guy, which blew my mind because no part of, I've been aware of One Piece for a long time, but I've never read the manga or watched the animation.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Well, I have, but I'm going to come at this from the perspective of somebody who hasn't. Because we need those two perspectives. Somebody who hasn't seen it, and somebody who's pretending to have it. Consumed all thousand issues or whatever. Yes. And you were like, he's a Gumby guy. At no point had I ever considered that he was a Gumby guy, because
Starting point is 00:51:01 in no piece of media I've ever seen him be a Gumby guy. Me neither, Wink. Yeah. And then I asked you, I think, is it like the movie Scott Pilgrim where it looks like it's going to be a rom-com and then there's the reveal that it's like a video game fight thing. Yeah. But here's the thing. This was a lot like Scott Pilgrim.
Starting point is 00:51:18 It's very Scott Pilgrim, isn't it? A series of villains they fight. I think that. Obviously, this was first. Yeah. A series of villains they fight? Yeah, I think that. Obviously, this was first. Yeah, so obviously the One Piece manga predates the Scott Pilgrim comic books
Starting point is 00:51:29 by a significant, you know, probably a couple of decades. I'd say at least a decade. A decade, I don't know. But then, of course, Scott Pilgrim the movie predates this show. Sure, yeah. And I'm sure it's all a mess of influences. And I think Brian Lee O'Malley was, like, influenced by manga when he made Scott Pilgrim and et cetera. Yeah, there's a number of influences in I think Brian Lee O'Malley was like influenced by manga when he made Scott Pilgrim and etc
Starting point is 00:51:45 There's a number of influences in Scott Pilgrim. But this is absolutely like it does kind of follow that same narrative of like He's a weird thing you have to fight. He's a weird guy with a weird power and he's a you know this guy can fall to bits and come back together and etc
Starting point is 00:52:01 This guy's got a tiny little sword and that's a bit of fun isn't it? you say uh would you call this one piece of crap or one piece of pretty good content second one i think yeah yeah i agree because it's weird because like i the balance of this it's works walks a very fine line because it's such a nonsense world and its characters like especially the lead guy i'm like watching him and I'm like, I think I should fucking hate this guy, but I don't. And I'm like, he's irritating, but it's not irritating me. And I think so much of that is the performance.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Inaki Godoy plays him just like really earnestly. And some of the line delivery is a bit ropey because the dialogue is clearly lifted straight from the source material. But he sells it all, really. What's interesting as well, I think, and I think they've cast all the supporting characters really well, I think, all the assorted villains, the evil exes. And here's some names.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Emily Rudd as Nami. McKenyu as Zorro. Taz Skylar as Sanji. Some of the names, Mason. I love it when you read out the names. I don't remember anyone's actual name from the show. No, neither do I. Actors' names, characters' names.
Starting point is 00:53:19 We'll just describe them. Yeah. Obviously, Rich Gravy. Yeah. The King of the Pirates. I love that guy. He was pretty good. You know what I liked about this? Look, the casting is good is good yeah and i think the set pieces are a lot of fun and
Starting point is 00:53:29 like you said he should be annoying but he's not and i think it's a credit to him yeah the main guy but i it's interesting as well a lot some of the i mean obviously a lot of the world is visual effects yeah but i think maybe something that lets and i would i would say i would ordinarily hate that like if it was a speed racer universe where everything is obviously fake yeah i think i would hate this yeah sure but i think what sells it to me is that everything like while everything in the background feels like quite fuzzy visual effects everything in the foreground is like very textured that's true and it's got a like it all feels very real i don't like i don't know like you know there'll be seen there's a lot of scenes set on boats yeah and i don't know like is it just the deck that is
Starting point is 00:54:15 real and everything else is visual effects but it's like you know every piece of wood and every you know sword and every rope and it all looks real and all the characters are very heavily textured like you know everybody's they haven't like plasticined people. No but I think also some of that is that but it also adds to it because there's so many like obvious wigs and makeups and
Starting point is 00:54:38 prosthetic and all that kind of stuff but I think because it is this weird heightened universe it works and I think it's also because this is it's an expensive show and it kind of in some ways it looks like a netflix show or movie looks but the best version of that and it's appropriate for this apparently was 17 million dollars per episode which is the second highest for a netflix series to stranger things so that was that's kind of money though okay which is like a bit less than they do for the mandalorian okay but you can see the wigs on everybody all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:06 It's like, who cares, you know? It's a weird anime universe where everyone screams the punch they're about to do or whatever, which I didn't like, to be fair. Wow. It's one of the only things I didn't like, yeah. But I think also what works is the characters all feel very genuine and they, I guess, like and know each other. You know, like it's these weird kind of almost stilted interactions
Starting point is 00:55:33 and superficial understanding of like the universe and good and evil. Yeah. Boy, in this universe, I certainly wouldn't want to be like a really pretentious floppy haired guy who's like got a sense of superiority because my dad's the sheriff or whatever. The president or whatever. Because you are going to get thumped. Especially in like the first couple of episodes. It's just a bunch of dudes showing up being like,
Starting point is 00:55:57 oh, how dare you speak that way to me, man who's carrying three swords. Because I'm actually my dad's big time. Oh, you've beat me up. You've beat me up very severely. You've given me this bob haircut, which I'm keeping for the rest of the series. I think in addition to that, and you mentioned this, but the collection of colourful enemies that they come up against,
Starting point is 00:56:18 and it's every two episodes or so there's a new pirate they have to fight. I know this is taken from the source material. I know that because I've definitely had the time to watch and read all of that. So you knew ahead of time that One Piece was the treasure? Yeah. Because I had to learn that.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I'm like, oh, that's what they're talking about. Did you think it was One Piece of crap? I thought it was maybe a One Piece swimsuit. Oh, okay. Because it's beachy. It is. It's a beachy world, isn't it? But yeah, you know, there's like a shark guy.
Starting point is 00:56:48 You mentioned the guy falls apart, you know. There's a guy with a giant like crucifix sword and also a little crucifix sword. Oh, the clown guy is the fall apart guy. Yeah, all of that I quite like, yeah. But I just remember like multiple times during this, there's a moment where he, i guess if we do some spoilers but i guess we won't spoil anything too heavily where a friend betrays him and then comes back
Starting point is 00:57:09 and asks him for help yeah and he like screams to the heavens that's right that he's got to help but i'm like i think i even said out loud like god this is so naff like whoa that's what i said but it like but in a way that it, this is what it is, you know? Yeah. And also by that point, that's like five episodes in and it's like, well, if you're not committed to the show at this point. Exactly, what are you doing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah. You're probably not going to leave there. Yeah. I feel like also this, making this is an insurmountable task. Because there's a thousand. There's a thousand. There's a thousand mangas and there's. The cast, you'd have to recast at some point.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Now the comic and the anime are finished as far as I know. Okay, sure. The story is finished, I think. So either they found the one piece and it was a treasure or they found the one piece and it was love. I would hate to say. Or they found the one piece and it was treasure and it falls beneath the ocean or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And they're like, well, I guess we lost the one piece. And we got each other. We got each other in friendship. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And we probably picked up some other people on the way. Yeah, and I've got this big sword.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah. And I'm still a Gumby guy. Do you think we'll lose these Gumby guy powers? No. Oh, wait. No, because if you get immersed in salt water, that's why you can't swim. Because if you get immersed. So the main character ate a devil's fruit.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah. And he got Gumby powers. Yeah. And the other people in this universe, if you eat a devil's fruit, depending on theby powers and the other people in this universe if you eat a devil's fruit depending on the fruit you get a different power but if you get immersed in salt water
Starting point is 00:58:28 you lose your powers stop working so do you permanently lose them if you get them? No I think it's just because there's a few times when he's submerged and he's like
Starting point is 00:58:36 I can't do big punch that's true I felt like also at the start oh has this guy like Reed Richards invincible but he's not
Starting point is 00:58:43 he can be cut and he can be even beaten up. That's true. You know, like despite his flexibilities and all of that. Yeah, I thought that worked well. And the overarching story about who was tracking him and how that was revealed. And that's all apparently.
Starting point is 00:58:56 There's a number of narrative, like characters are like, you know, combined and people who are revealed who to have known him happen at different points. That's true, yeah. Apparently it's less, like, the characters, some of them are, like, less lecherous because, you know, a lot of anime, especially the older stuff, is just, like, guys going, like,
Starting point is 00:59:12 hehehehe. You know what I mean? The most lecherous thing you could do. Like, following a girl around for, like, a thousand episodes or whatever. But, yeah, I just don't know how, though, they're going to pull this off. I don't think they are. Without just cancelling it at some point. they're going to pull this off i don't think they're
Starting point is 00:59:25 without just cancelling it at some point they're going to like yeah i think maybe and again i would love to hear from from fans of the original besides you james besides the man who knows everything about anime just some other perspectives if anything you know too much you're right you've lost objectivity because you know too much but um you first of all, what does this cover in terms of the originals? Like, does it cover, is eight episodes eight issues? Or is it a year? It feels like. Or is it many years?
Starting point is 00:59:54 I feel like. Did this cover like five years of the comic? I think it's like a prologue it feels like. Well, that's exactly right. And I guess my question is, do you think they can maintain this? Or is it a case of like, well, do you feel like it's just kind of like an artifact? Yeah, okay. Like, well, they may make more of this.
Starting point is 01:00:13 They may never make more of this. But I guess you just go, I will imagine. You could imagine the rest of it if it was live action kind of thing. It's just a- Hey, I will do it eventually. Hey, I will do it eventually. That's right, yeah. That's what I want, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah, I don't know. I just don't see it going for- I just don't do it eventually. Hey, I will do it eventually. That's right, yeah. That's what I want, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't see it going for... I just don't see it happening. I mean, if it's $17 million an episode, unless somebody high up in Netflix loves One Piece, and maybe that's the reason. Yeah, maybe. Anyway, it's pretty spectacular they managed to pull this off
Starting point is 01:00:40 about anything even remotely watchable. That's true. It is true. It's pretty incredible. And it seems to be garnering more positive reaction than Cowboy Bebop, which was the previous one. Yes, fans of the source material, myself included, consider it a good adaptation.
Starting point is 01:00:56 There you go. Yeah, which is pretty much unheard of these days. There's a few things that, just before we wrap it up. Yes. I understand Luffy's motivation in terms of like, he wants to get the one piece. Yes, absolutely. Why not?
Starting point is 01:01:10 Right. Yeah. That's cool. But I don't get why. Like he wants to, he wants to be a pirate because he feels like it's what he wants to be. Right. Which is fine.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Whatever. But like, why do you do a Jimmy Buffett lifestyle, baby? R.I.P. But why does he want to, what's that Margaritaville lifestyle? He wants a cheeseburger in paradise. But why does he want to... What's that Margaritaville lifestyle? He wants a cheeseburger in paradise. But why does he want to... It's a great song, James.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Cheeseburger in paradise. It might be. I don't know it. But why... My dad loves Jimmy Buffett. And so I... I had an ego this week. I haven't asked him.
Starting point is 01:01:36 But I will. Yeah, yeah. I'll ask him next time I see him. Yeah, please do. Probably devastated. Probably devo. I don't doubt it. So I've heard a lot of Jimmy Buffett.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Has he ever done any of the Jimmy Buffett style resorts or restaurants? No, but he has seen him live, I think. And don't doubt it. So I've heard a lot of Jimmy Buffett. Has he ever done any of the Jimmy Buffett-style resorts or restaurants? No, but he has seen him live, I think. And? Loved it. Did he play all a million of his songs? Yes, of course he did. Okay, great. But why does he want everybody to be after him and be the most famous pirate?
Starting point is 01:01:59 Is this their version of social media? I guess it is, yeah. Is it like a popularity thing? Bit of excitement you know yeah but like why would you want people trying to kill you all day forever i think you may be ascribing too much motivation to this character and and that maybe he's an airhead yeah that he's a himbo we've gotten up i think have we gotten some more himbo media recently that i'm like oh yeah just a just a nice dumb guy. Okay, yeah. I don't know. Don't know. Also, did you buy his evolution from a real, like a little angry kid?
Starting point is 01:02:30 It feels a little, there's some gaps there, right? Yeah, it does. And again, maybe which will be filled out in season two, which may never happen. But you also get glimpses of his anger and what sets him off and where his loyalties are. His friends. Yeah, so you do kind of, I think there is some stuff there. That's true and i guess the idea being that his his the the pirate captain the one-armed pirate yeah you know who who saved him a number of times probably you know over the course of his growing
Starting point is 01:02:54 up in his adolescence maybe taught him like be cool and chill margaritaville baby r.i.p r.i.p jimmy buffett yeah absolutely so i guess the last thing I want to say is that, like, this is classic post-credits scene but also haven't cast that person yet. Oh, yeah, the mysterious guy, the double cigar man. Yeah. Who is that? Is it Edward Norton again? I think it's probably Edward Norton.
Starting point is 01:03:19 It's probably Edward Norton, yeah. He's probably learned from Battle Angel Alita. They're like sign you up and pay you and then you never have to do it. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that. Yeah, just like... Should we Google one piece?
Starting point is 01:03:30 Do you want to know? If you Google one piece double cigar, man, what will happen? It's a guy who's got a vendetta and a weird thing about him. Do you think he has two mouths? Maybe. Or like that. Or he smokes out of his nose. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:42 He's going to say stacked or side by side. I was imagining side by side, but maybe... That's me doing two snapping mouths. Okay. Yeah, they say shit a lot in this show. They do. Especially the clown. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Rude. I agree. He wasn't a rude clown. Anyway, I'm going to say best series ever. Yeah, no, I really liked it. I didn't think I would. Is that a case of low expectations? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:00 If I didn't have heard this was good, I just wouldn't have watched it. Like, I didn't watch Cowboy Bebop. I don't watch any of these adaptations. I'm not interested, quite frankly. But this one, I can't wait for four years until they release the next season and all the cast are in their early to late 40s. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I think the main guy's like 20. Like he's pretty young. Okay, well then he's got a few years in him. He's got a few years, yeah. He's got the Tom Holland window. That's true 20. Like he's pretty young. Okay. Well then he's got a few years in it. He's got a few years. Yeah. He's got that, the Tom Holland window. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Yeah. Great stuff. All right. Tom Holland's got a beautiful soul, that guy. He seems like he does. Yeah, he's having a good time. He posted that photo of Zendaya
Starting point is 01:04:35 in like scuba gear or whatever. Yeah. He likes her. That's what I'm saying. Like a lot of people like, oh, not a very flattering photo, Tom,
Starting point is 01:04:42 but it's like, yeah, because in his mind, like obviously she's one of the most beautiful women in the world. Yeah, yeah, sure. But like, of course in his mind, he's like, yes, not a very flattering photo, Tom. But it's like, yeah, because in his mind, like obviously she's one of the most beautiful women in the world. Yeah, yeah, sure. But like, of course, in his mind, he's like, yes, my beautiful girlfriend. I'm going to take a photo. And this is fun. It's beautiful. A bit of fun. And we're having fun, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Settle down, everybody. Settle down, everybody. He's got real wife guy energy. He does, doesn't he? Yeah. Which can be bad, but in this case, from social media, seems good. That's true. And we can retract that. That's absolutely true. If need be. All right, should we move it along? Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:07 What are we doing? Do we need any... Do we have any... Is there any one-piece spoiler talk we need to talk about? No, he gets through it. His grandpa's the guy. His grandpa's the guy. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:15 The guy who executed Rich Gravy. You might be thinking of the rapper Young Gravy. Maybe I'm thinking that. Boy, is the bloody hip-hop scene or is it my bloody grandmother's pantry? Am I right? This guy? He's in there? No, I'm trying to think of a grandmother type thing.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Like, well, that's a tin of, like, butter cookies or whatever. What are they called? Oh, Royal Dansk. Yeah. Yeah, I loved his mixtape. I loved Royal Dansk's mixtape. All right, what are we going to do next? What are we reading? Yeah. What are we going to read? I believe you. I loved Royal Dance's mixtape. All right, what are we going to do next? What are we reading?
Starting point is 01:05:45 Yeah. What are we going to read? I Believe You. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? That's right. We're going to the shops. That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Maybe we're going to the shops. I don't have time to go to the shops. I'm busy. Yep, me too. I also went to the shops earlier. Oh, wow. Yeah, so, you know. I've gone twice. Yeah, I've gone twice. I can wait. Mr. Two trips to the shops. I don't have time to go to the shops. I'm busy. Yep, me too. I also went to the shops earlier. Oh, wow. Yeah, so, you know. I've gone twice. Yeah, I'm one of them.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Mr. Two trips to the shops. Someone's doing alright. Oh, I forgot something. I'm going back to the shops. Wow. Must be nice. Must be nice. I've been reading. I read the first two issues of Big Game. I read those. Read by Mark Miller
Starting point is 01:06:23 and Pepe Larrazura this is the combination of all his milliverse yeah so this is i mean a little little bit of a little bit of spoilers but i think maybe if you if you're not into this sort of stuff you were probably not reading it anyway so yeah so recently mark miller did a reboot of one of his characters nemesis yes uh it was called the series was called nemesis reloaded and it re wrote nemesis's origin yeah because in the original series it's about uh a guy who's like a self-styled super villain and he's he dresses all in white he looks like batman but he just does villainous stuff and he he goes around the world killing law uh lawmen because he loves it because he loves it and the reveal at the end of that spoilers for that thing he's got a tragic backstory
Starting point is 01:07:10 about you know his parents were criminals or something yeah and you know he went wrong or whatever but the reveal is that he's just a rich guy yeah who wanted to become a super villain as kind of a thrill just because there was there was a weird organisation that's been around for a long time that just did this for him, like a luxury vacation. Yeah, it's like Michael Douglas' The Game. It was like Michael Douglas' The Game. So they gave him, like, all this, you know, this supervillain identity and all this gadgetry and all this training and all these plans
Starting point is 01:07:39 and all this stuff so he could execute this worldwide crime wave kind of thing. And he died. And he died. And the post-credits is basically the cop who defeats him gets a message from the company and is like, well, there's more of this coming. Yeah. And there just never was.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Well, because there was going to be a sequel with Red Nemesis. Yeah. Do you remember that was kind of the tease for years? Yeah, right. When it was going to be another another guy would do start doing this but then mark miller decided to re-tell that story yeah but keep every other world like in canon because like there's huck who's like dumb superman yeah it's like clark kent who never left the farm and he's done yeah yeah there's starlight which is like a flash gordon guy there's Wanted. Kingsman.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Kingsman. All of these. There's Arthur Kick-Ass. Yeah, so big game essentially is the idea. So they've rebooted Nemesis, so now he's not sympathetic. No. But he's just that guy. He's not a millionaire masquerading as a supervillain. He's actually a supervillain with an origin and et cetera.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And now he is sort of, okay, now we're into full spoilers for this thing. But I think you should check it out. I think it's really interesting. I don't love everything Mark Millett does, but the reveal of this is that Nemesis has been trained by, he's been inducted into an organisation, he's been trained his whole life to be this villain and the people behind it are the villains from Wanted.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yes. And so in the series Wanted, the world used to be a superhero, supervillain world. Not the movie, if you're wondering. Not the movie. It's different from the movie, like costumes, supervillains and heroes flying around. Pretty much without doing it explicitly because you can't do it
Starting point is 01:09:26 a copyright. There was Superman and Batman and Spider-Man and all of those. And the villains one day killed all the heroes, took over the world and then changed reality so you don't remember. So none of us remember that the world used to be more colourful and interesting or whatever. the world used to be more colourful and interesting or whatever. But, and so what Mark Mill has done is he's taken all the other properties that he's created since and has gone, well,
Starting point is 01:09:53 they're all in the same world. People remember superheroes and supervillains, and they're always putting them in movies and comic books and TV shows because they're trying to puzzle out what happened to the world that they remember. And some people explicitly also remember, like very few people actually remember. But also because of that and because of how the world is
Starting point is 01:10:12 and the world is kind of still a kind of crazy sci-fi world under the surface, now superheroes are emerging like Huck and Starlight and the Kingsmen, and so the wanted villains need an agent to destroy them all. Yeah. And so they're using Nemesis. And I think that's really interesting. So it's all the new stuff, the Ambassadors, which is a new series.
Starting point is 01:10:39 The Magic Order is going to be inducted into this. I wrote a bit of the Magic Order. I read the first run. I should probably go back to it. But what's ambassadors again? The ambassadors is basically a sci-fi concept. They've invented this device that can beam superpowers to people, and there can only be a few of them in the world.
Starting point is 01:10:57 And so different nations all have elected one superhero. Oh, that's right. And you can sort of download different powers. Oh, I didn't realize they were from another right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can sort of download different powers. Oh, I didn't realize they were from another thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From this, yeah. But there was also the Crononauts, who are like time traveling cool dudes.
Starting point is 01:11:11 And this series. The Crononauts? Yeah, it is, yeah. This series is not shy about killing off main people that Mark Millar's invented. And I don't know if this is going to end with reality being changed again and they all get brought back.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Or if he's just like, yeah, I created these characters, I gave them a four-issue miniseries and I'm just going to kill them now. Who knows? Why not? Yeah, but I don't know. Is this a cynical attempt to create a shared universe? Because it also includes, like you said, kick-ass.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Like Hit-Girl is in this and kick-ass are in this as well. Maybe Jupiter's Legacy is in this? Yeah, Jupiter's Legacy seems to be being pitched as a fictional thing. Or it's media in the universe. Yeah, I can't remember. So I don't know if that one's real or not. But yeah, or they're maybe publicly superheroes now. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:11:58 But yeah, is it a cynical way of kind of pitching this shared universe and going like, well, you loved Kick-Ass. Yeah. You liked Kingsman. Yeah. Well, they're all in the same universe and I've got more, so maybe we'll do some more movies kind of thing. Maybe they should, though.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Yeah, maybe they should, yeah. Again, I think a lot of – I think Miller's stuff is kind of hit or miss for me, but I think a lot of it is quite good. Yeah, I completely agree. The less cynical stuff. Sure, yeah, okay. The kind of – the more – See, I think my favorite thing of his is Superior,
Starting point is 01:12:28 which is what if a boy, like a real boy became Superman? Yes. Or like a Captain Marvel. Yeah, a Captain Marvel kind of thing. Shazam Captain Marvel, yeah. And just like, what is the weight of that on a real, and Superior's in this universe as well. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Though they haven't really done much with it yet. But the weight of that and the responsibility and the expectations and how you can't exist like that as a person for too long because it's just an impossible ideal to be like a Chris Reeve Superman. Yes. It cannot – it will be undone. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:03 So, you know. Interesting, right? Interesting. Well, speaking of. Interesting. Right? Interesting. Well, speaking of comic book stuff. Go on. For our next series of movies about Caravan of Garbage, we're looking at like pulp comic book movie. We talk about how we define it in the actual videos. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:17 But a series of comic book big swings from the 90s upwards that were going to be like a big thing. And they put a lot of money and effort and it's a very specific vision and they bombed. So like the first one we're looking at this week is Dick Tracy and the second one will be The Rocketeer and there's going to be five we're going to do in total. So you've been reading Dick Tracy comics? No, we watched Dick Tracy, that one is in the can.
Starting point is 01:13:38 But you could read some Dick Tracy comics. I could potentially, yeah. But we've recorded that thing so it's too late. It's done. You know what came out at the time? And I may still have them somewhere. But when that Dick Tracy movie came out, there were three Dick Tracy prequel comics. Okay, to the movie.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Yeah, to the movie. And they were drawn by Kyle Baker, who did Plastic Man years later. And they're really cool and interesting. They're way better than the movie. I was going to say, that sounds really cool and interesting. Unlike the movie. He really, because he did Pl sounds really cool and interesting. Yeah, but they've- Unlike the movie. He really, because he did Plastic Man and he's done a bunch of other stuff
Starting point is 01:14:08 in that similar vein. Yeah. He really gets the grotesque look of those characters. Oh, because there were freaks in that movie. Yeah, yeah. Real argos. You're going to love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Not, yeah. Maybe that's the wrong word. Yeah. You're going to know about it. You are going to know about it. Yeah. Are we going to know about copyright on this sort of stuff? I wonder if, because we talk a lot about Warren Beatty and his like stranglehold on the Dick Tracy rights.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Do you think he's going to be like copyright strike in this video? No, he's not looking at that. Okay. All right. Dude, like, I don't know what he's doing, but not that. Yeah. I saw an interview with him in research. We talk about how many women he slept with in the video.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Spoiler alert. So I watched like a Graham Norton interview. And he's just an old guy, you know? Just an old guy confused on a couch. Where everyone's just like having a great time. And he's like, I don't know. I can't read this. I regret this.
Starting point is 01:14:59 The world has changed and I haven't. I don't like this. That's what happens, you know? It happens to all of us. Not us. No, we're cool. I also re-watched the first episode of Burn Notice. I'm like, am I going to go back to Burn Notice?
Starting point is 01:15:13 I don't know why. I don't. Why? What are you doing? I don't know. I just got thinking about Burn Notice. Do you have it or is it on something? It's on Disney Plus in Australia.
Starting point is 01:15:20 So I'm like, yeah. I don't know if it's in and out of Burn Notice. Right. Who burned him? I can't remember. Michael burn notice. That's right. What's he doing?
Starting point is 01:15:30 Did he ever get unburned noticed? I don't know. Someone should tell him. I think if he shook someone hard enough, they'd tell him. They'd tell him, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:37 So if people haven't seen, it's from about 2007. Sure. And it went for a long time. Did it? It went for like at least five seasons, I think.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Bruce Campbell's in it. Bruce Campbell's in it and Gabrielle Anwar is in it. It's fun. And a went for a long time. Did it? It went for like at least five seasons, I think. Okay, yeah. Bruce Campbell's in it. Bruce Campbell's in it and Gabrielle Anwar is in it. It's fun. And a bunch of like, the first episode has Ray Wise, famous sinister guy. He's really? Yeah, he's like the villain of the week. And it also has the guy from Dexter, who's the guy, he's like. Not Dexter's dad?
Starting point is 01:16:03 No, no, no, but he's one of Dexter's pals in the police force. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a kind of very Florida kind of guy. Yeah, he's got the hat. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, but it's about like a former...
Starting point is 01:16:16 2007 to 2013. See, there you go. God, that went for a long time. I've heard notice. But it's like a sort of A-team style, you know? Yes. If you've got no one to turn to, there's a guy and he's like a sort of a team style you know if you've got no one to turn to there's a guy and he's got a set of skills and he'll he'll get the bad guys for you and it can't like maybe i'm looking for another one of those shows to watch when you're not watching a show really yeah kind
Starting point is 01:16:34 of thing it's it is fun though like it's a fun show yeah uh his haircut has not aged well it's like a crew cut that's grown out a bit it doesn't look good but i imagine it was quite cool for 2007 michael burn notice what are you doing exactly but it's about a guy who yeah he's a former spy and he's he gets issued with the burn notice which means that spy agencies think he's like no longer reliable maybe he's you know he's he's uh something's up something's up and so he can't he can't leave his hometown of florida yeah um and you know nobody trusts him anymore and he doesn't have any money or any contacts or anything like that so he just has to like do odd jobs in florida yeah and it's like helping people who need help and he's got like and he'll tell you all about it yeah he'll
Starting point is 01:17:13 explain it to you yes exactly he's got a he's got a like a running narration yeah it's fun it's a fun show burn notice i'm like i'm either gonna watch that or i'm gonna finish magnum pr oh my god i don't know i think that's the same show, actually. It is essentially the same show, yes. It is, yeah. It really is. Should we do letters then? Let's do letters. Great!
Starting point is 01:17:31 The classic one was, Letters, oh letters, we love you. Letters, letters, letters, letters, letters, letters. Oh wait. Correspondence, correspondence. I like that. That's good, right? This is the correspondence section of the show
Starting point is 01:17:47 Where we get correspondence And if you want to shoot us some correspondence, you can That's right You can shoot some correspondence to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com Or tweet at me Hashtag weeklyplanetpod So, Mason, what have you got in terms of correspondence this week? Great, question, James
Starting point is 01:18:01 I can do one while you're looking Terrific, I love that From Ethan, who sayshtag weekly planet pod I know you've been pretty cold on Ahsoka But what did you think of episode 4? I didn't watch it I'm going to talk about it right now Right I love that
Starting point is 01:18:11 Probably do a wrap up I don't know what it was I know there's a big revelation Because I saw the screenshots I'm going to spoil it Here's time for some big spoilers folks If you don't want to be big spoiled for Ahsoka So the big spoiler at the end
Starting point is 01:18:20 Is Ahsoka falls off a cliff And then she wakes up In the Star Wars time travel room Which is a tree? Yeah, maybe. And Anakin Skywalker's there played by Hayden Christensen. But he's old now?
Starting point is 01:18:29 No, he's young. Okay. But they de-aged him a bit. He's like the way he looked in the prequels. Okay. Ish. Classic. That's great.
Starting point is 01:18:35 That's a good way to put it. He looks like an action figure. If you defocused your eyes he would look like an action figure from like episode three. Correct. That's what he looks like. And I think it might be
Starting point is 01:18:44 because she's on the verge of death and this is like the realm before you go into become a ghost. I don't know. I don't fucking know. Could this be Force Ghost Anakin Skywalker? Yeah, it is. It's like, it's really him, I think.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Right. The ghost version of him. Anyway, but that's not what I want to talk about. So leading up, there's a series of like lightsaber jewels in the forest. Which are apparently quite good.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Yeah, they're quite good. I think all of it, like it looks good. I think this is the best episode, definitely. Like it looks good and wow, it's Anakin Skywalker,
Starting point is 01:19:12 I guess. And look, this guy's talking about the Clone Wars of Anakin and turns out Marok is just like a man made of smoke or something. He's just a guy.
Starting point is 01:19:20 No, not even a guy. He dies and like a bunch of like smoke comes out of him. It's not even Ezra. So he could have been like Long Dead or Night Sister Magic or whatever. Anyway, it doesn't matter. He dies and a bunch of smoke comes out of him. It wasn't even Ezra. So he could have been long dead or a night sister magic or whatever. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But the thing about all that is the narrative and the characters don't support any of these things.
Starting point is 01:19:34 So Anakin shows up, but there's a moment where they go to march into the woods like Sabine and Ahsoka, and the David Tennant robot's like, now remember, if you're going to take one piece of advice, you should stick together. And they turn around and they're like, we will stick together. Great. And then they turn and he's like. Well, now I don't want to stick together.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Because you told me to. And they don't. But it's like that kind of still, like the guy, Ray Winston. Ray Winston? Yes. Yeah, it's like, you know, before they have a lightsaber fight with Ahsoka, he's like, I knew Anakin Skywalker and I know who you are
Starting point is 01:20:12 and I know what he became. And she's like, I don't want to talk about Anakin Skywalker. And I'm like, this is thrilling. I love this. And it's just like. If I can be critical, James, if I can be critical of the couple of episodes I've seen, and I will be,
Starting point is 01:20:25 it's that a lot of the conversations don't sound like real people having real conversations. It's people saying lines and waiting for the other person, waiting to finish so they can say another line. And sometimes they wait too long. Yeah, right. Like it's too much of a pause. And I think it's probably because Dave Filoni
Starting point is 01:20:39 went to the George Lucas School of Dialogue for some of this. Because it is often like two people in a room and they'll be like, we need to learn to work together. And it's like, well, sometimes I find it hard to work together. Yeah, but if you're going to train under me, it's like that. And it's like, God, kill me with this. But I think outside of that, I think it will improve.
Starting point is 01:21:02 And I think like the overall narrative. Sounds like you're being paid 50 bucks to alter your Rotten Tomatoes score. I think it will improve. Okay. And I think like the overall narrative. Well, it sounds like you're being paid 50 bucks to alter your Rotten Tomatoes score. But it's just like the pace of it. Yeah. Like the snappiness is just not there. It's a shame. And it might even be intentional. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Because it's not always and it's not with everybody. Right. I don't even hate it. Yeah. I don't even hate it. Wow. But I don't know. I just, it's not quite there for me.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Okay. Now, so presumably the next episode then will be Ahsoka and Anakin together in a lot of scenes talking. Yeah. But I think it's interesting that those actors have never worked together. Like this is the idea, you know, the entire idea behind, you know, Anakin had a secret apprentice between episodes two and three, but neither of those voice actors are these real actors.
Starting point is 01:21:57 No, you're right. So they had years of practice working together, but Hayden Christensen and Rosario yeah i've never shared a scene together as far as i know in anything that's so they have to so the the task here is to make a believable rapport between these two characters even though they've never done that ever so and they might not even be on set together yeah well i mean and if so if like i will be i think it could go really well if they you know they are professional. They've done good work before, so maybe this will work and we'll be like, oh, it's just like the old days.
Starting point is 01:22:29 I would love this to be like the spark that lights the fire, et cetera, that style of thing. But, you know, like that really kind of kicks things off and like ramps up the characters. But I don't know whether that's going to happen. When's this show set again? Five years after Return of the Jedi. When's anything set again five years after return of the jedi when's anything set i don't five years after exactly yeah i was gonna say i don't know but i
Starting point is 01:22:48 do anyway yeah it's like but also it's it's all right you know you like star wars they're doing that i don't like star wars you're not gonna like it oh man yeah i think it's i am being like unfairly critical of this show which is a sequel to a cartoon, you know? Sure, yeah. But I know people might even be saying, well, you're not being critical enough. But like, I don't, I don't care ultimately. Like I could, if they were like, yeah, we just cancelled the rest.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I'd be like, okay. Like, it would be all right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is your burn notice. It is, isn't it? I think that's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:23 I think Sabine's really good. I think Hera's really good. Hera is really good. Mary Elizabeth Winstead is really good in this. How's Chopper? How's my pal Chopper? I don't like him. I've never liked him, but I don't like him.
Starting point is 01:23:35 That's a shame. Yeah. David Tennant, Robot's Fun. But the Rosario Dawson thing, and I don't even know if it's the performance. It's the, I think it might, it's either the direction or direction or like the yeah it's the stoicism of it doesn't work and i'm not the only one who said who said this but it is intentional yeah right you can you kind of can see that people like well she's not like young and like snappy as she used to be maybe she becomes snappy in the next episode yeah but like she was like 13 in the yeah yeah well maybe this maybe maybe when we
Starting point is 01:24:03 see the two characters together and they haven't been together in a while book she showed up. Maybe when we see the two characters together and they haven't been together in a while, maybe she'll get... Maybe it's that thing where like... Shut up, Dad. When you see your high school friends again or whatever, it's like... You're all...
Starting point is 01:24:13 Yeah. Anyway, what's your letter? Okay, here's an email from Dave. Dave. A few people sent this in. Hey, James and Mace. So in the latest pod, you guys talked about if comic book movie actors ever went on to write comics of those characters. Oh, we're going to feel this good. I'm glad you put this in. Hey James and Mace, so in the latest pod you guys talked about if comic book movie actors ever went on to write comics
Starting point is 01:24:26 of those characters. Oh, we're going to feel this good. I'm glad you put this up. One six issue miniseries that actually concluded a week or so ago is Ridley Year One written by Paul Danner with art by Stevan Subic. Yeah, I heard this is really good, right? It's a prequel to the film and shows how the riddle arrived at the point where he's willing to try and destroy Gotham. I think it's a
Starting point is 01:24:41 very good book and the art in particular is absolutely excellent. I've only seen the covers, but yeah. I had no idea this was even out. If I recall, I remember it happening now that I've been reminded. I remember it perfectly. If I recall correctly from an interview, Dano was telling Matt Reeves about his ideas on how he imagined the Riddler's life and motivations,
Starting point is 01:24:58 and Reeves said they sounded like a great comic book, so he called up Jim Lee, who was the head of DC at the time, I think, to pitch the idea idea and that was that Paul Dano got to write it there you go I highly recommend it and I would hope Paul Dano writes more comics
Starting point is 01:25:10 in the future if this is the quality he's capable of yeah Paul Dano seems like a guy who would do like extensive research on probably both
Starting point is 01:25:17 the comic book character not just like slap it out be like I can do this exactly and get into the mind of the character which feels like the perfect way to be like
Starting point is 01:25:23 how you know if you're building an origin story get right into the mind of the character, which feels like the perfect way to be like how, you know, if you're building an origin story, get right into the mind of the character. Absolutely. So there you go. Another one that people said was Danny DeVito wrote a Penguin comic a few years ago. Oh, yeah, that's based around Batman Returns. It's like weird.
Starting point is 01:25:36 And where Catwoman falls in love with the Penguin. Yeah. And he's the good guy or something? Something. Is it Batman Returns or is it just like the Penguin? Maybe it's just The Penguin. I'll never read it, but that seems interesting. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Anyway, Dave says, can I be the official dude telling you about Ridley Year One via email of the podcast? You got it. No, we've already got a guy who did that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're going to have to share it with a bunch of other people. Obviously, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:00 This is from Quinton who says, hi, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Hi. Hi. I know it's a big ask, but can James recommend some anime for the upcoming content drought? I trust his knowledge. Well, that's the guy who knows everything about anime.
Starting point is 01:26:12 Oh, yes. It's obviously hard to narrow anything down, but I would recommend the One Piece live action series. If you don't know, we have talked about that already. Yeah, quite recently, I think. I recommend. My memory's not great, but quite recently. I recommend One Punch Man probably up to about episode two or three
Starting point is 01:26:29 of the second season, which is where some people may have stopped. Oh, yes. Yes, that's what I've heard. That's what I've heard. Why would they have stopped, do you think? I don't know. Just running out of time? Yeah, maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:39 I'd recommend Dragon Ball Z, but maybe, like, you skip over a bunch of the Freezer saga because you came in, came in a bit late when it was on TV, and then you went up to the end of the Boo saga, and you're aware that it spun off into the GT universe, but you weren't really interested in that. What's GT stand for? Dragontroll. And then...
Starting point is 01:26:58 Nice. I'm joking. It's got a real name. That's the season when they realised that they'd been mispronouncing Dragon Ball this whole time. Oh, we thought it was Dragon Ball, but it's Dragon Draw. But that's obviously no longer canon, and they started making movies in the Dragon Ball Super universe.
Starting point is 01:27:13 And maybe you could go into that, but maybe some people never bothered, and they ended it with the Majin Buu saga, which they saw most of that movie. Interesting. It's different for everybody. Was Majin Buu again? He's the pink marshmallow guy. Yeah, I thought he was the pink guy pink guy yeah so those are probably my recommendations
Starting point is 01:27:27 that's great i reckon you got any akira oh yeah seen akira yeah it's pretty uh i mean that's pretty mainstream i don't know whether i'd go with that you know necessarily a lot of people have recommended a show called spy family okay that's quite good all right so i haven't seen any of that i like some slice of life stuff oh yeah it's just a guy running like a bar or whatever. Oh, yeah? I couldn't name specifically, but something like that, you know? Okay. Just where it's like a-
Starting point is 01:27:49 Roadhouse. Yeah, like a- The anime. Yeah, like a nice thing. Oh, anime Patrick Swayze. Can you imagine that? Oh, my God. He'd be dreaming.
Starting point is 01:27:56 He would be. Even more so, maybe. He'd be dreamy. Yeah. So those are my recommendations. Yeah. You got another letter? Here's an email from Joel, who says,
Starting point is 01:28:03 Welcome to One Piece, I hope. Yeah? And this is exactly the feedback I'm who says, Welcome to One Piece, I hope. Yeah. And this is exactly the feedback I'm looking for, James. Okay. Exactly the feedback. Hey, James and Mason, I'm very excited to welcome you to One Piece if you did indeed cover it in this upcoming episode. We did.
Starting point is 01:28:15 We did, I think. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. It's my favourite series of all time in any medium. I'm assuming he means the manga or the anime, perhaps. So I could talk you off for hours, but I'll try to be brief. One, I have to shill for piecemeal a One Piece book club podcast covering one volume at a time.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Interesting. And the hosts are a mix of veteran and newbie readers, so you get both perspectives. Interesting. Just like us. Just like us. Two, if you like the live action, I'd recommend reading the manga. There's so much stuff the live action changed or cut
Starting point is 01:28:43 or won't get to for many years of production that may be right up your alleys. More fantasy races, crazier characters and most importantly an ever expanding epic of a world
Starting point is 01:28:52 with a rich history and a rich gravy. Yeah, no doubt. I try to avoid spoilers if you plan to tackle any more of the series in any form. There's some good bits.
Starting point is 01:29:02 I mean, yeah, I would love to but I don't know whether I will because it's just, if I could be real. Interesting. It feels insurmountable, you know. But I should. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:13 But I also like the live action, so I could be like, I'll just wait for this, I guess. It's not going to happen, though, is it? Yeah, you're probably right. What do you reckon the odds are? I reckon they'll do at least one series. Yeah, I'm serious. And then they'll see.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Yeah. I reckon, yeah. It's at least two years away. At least. Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah. You know. All right.
Starting point is 01:29:34 So anything else? Here's one more email from James. Okay. But not you, though. Hi, James and Mace, how he says. Hello. I've been having a really rough week. I've been super on edge and burned out from pulling multiple 12-hour days in a row.
Starting point is 01:29:44 That sucks. So I can get my work deadlines done in time to go home for a few days for my granddad's funeral. That sucks. Those are two things that are bad. That's bad. When's this email going to get fun and lighthearted? Due to the stress burnout, I've really been struggling to sleep and switch off my brain. But listening to your old podcast has been a huge help. And it's been great. It's been so nice to laugh at something.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Keep up the great work. Oh, thank you so much. We will. We'll try. No guarantees. No guarantees, yeah. I just want to shout out Patricia Bro from the Great Mates group. Patricia Bro.
Starting point is 01:30:13 She sent us an email like years ago where she went to Phoenix Comic Con and she represented this shirt. I love that. She mentioned it again and I ended up finding the email. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is cool, whatever. Anyway, been through a bunch of stuff. Really nice person. Really, like, great contributor to the group.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Brings great content, Mason, which is what we want. We love content. And, yeah, so I just wanted to shout Patricia out because she just seems really super cool and nice and genuine. So, yeah, thank you for all, like, the years of support, the literal years, nearly a decade, Mason. We're coming up on 500 episodes, which is too many of this show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:49 God. Should wind it back. Should we delete some? Yes. At random? Yeah. No, just like the last 50. Oh, the most recent ones?
Starting point is 01:30:56 Yeah. Great. I love that. All right. Should we leave it there? Let's leave it there, folks. Thank you so much for listening to the podcast. We absolutely appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:31:02 We're having a grand old time over here. We'll never stop. We'll never stop. We might never stop. We might though. We might. We talked about how we'd stop the other day, didn't we? That's right. We're not planning on. No, we did. We had some plans. We've got an exit strategy which we'll never reveal until it happens.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Yeah, but no, no plans to do that. That's right. Folks, thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is primarily how we get new listeners. But also thanks for leaving a five-star review on your podcast, Catcher of Choice. Do it in Apple. You can't trust like a Spotify or an Apple to promote our podcast.
Starting point is 01:31:34 You know what I mean? Because we're not under that umbrella. That's right. We can only trust you, the listener. That's right. Annoying your friends and coworkers. That's right. Like Connor from Wisconsin maybe who says,
Starting point is 01:31:42 Two Tools Podcast. He says, My Two Tools Podcasts that I look for are, one, be fun and entertaining, and two, be able to turn on at night and help my ADHD mind focus on something enough to not wander so I can sleep. This is the only podcast that's done that for me
Starting point is 01:31:57 in the last seven years now. Thanks, boys. You're very welcome. Thank you, Connor. And this is from DKenny54. He says, amazing stuff. Five stars, by the way. Amazing stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:05 These fellas have some hot takes that will see the fuzz right off your peaches. I have had a lot of fun listening to these guys, and I even refer to them as my Aussie friends with my wife. She still hasn't figured out that we've never actually met. Well, you haven't figured out we actually have met. We met you, brother. No, I've met James' wife. Claire is an amazing singer-songwriter.
Starting point is 01:32:23 You meet us once on the way up and once on the way down. That's right. What? Such a talented family. James, Claire, and their little baby, Mesa. Keep up the great work, folks. That's right. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:34:33 Might be Blue Beetle. I think we're Blue Beetling. Okay. Okay. Great. Love that. Love that for us. I guess we should see it.
Starting point is 01:34:39 I would like to see it. Yeah. No, me too. I want to see how he defeats Red Blue Beetle. Probably by building big guns out of his coop. Yeah. No, me too. I want to see how he defeats Red to Blue Beetle. Probably by building big guns out of his coop. He's like, you can't do it, but then he remembers his family. Family, that's right. And he does it. Yeah, it's going to be good.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I like that. Or fine. Yep. All right, thanks, everyone. We could just cut and paste what you've said there. That's right. And take the week off. Take the week off, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:01 All right, thanks, everyone. We'll wrap that jam, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. the week off. The week off, yeah. All right, thanks everyone. You can wrap that, Jim.
Starting point is 01:35:03 You guys, we'll see you next week. Goodbye. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
Starting point is 01:35:18 One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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