The Weekly Planet - 498 The Creator & The DCU Hasn't Started Yet

Episode Date: October 2, 2023

It's nice that every one in a while we get a movie that sure is inspired by a bunch of other IP but also is a new idea. That's right, it's The Creator week. In addition to reviewing that we talk the death of two legends of the screen, the end of the Writers Strike, the DCU being yet go have started despite The Flash, Blue Beetle and the yet to be released Aquaman & The Lost Kingdom, trailers for Rick & Morty Season 7 and Argylle, Secret Wars cameos, Martin Scorsese forced to talk about comic book movies and more! Thanks for listeningNew episode of James & Maso's Time Crapsule out now on bigsandwich.co - also featuring movie commentaries, video let's plays, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start04:39 Michael Gambon & David McCallum RIP09:35 The Writer's Strike Finally Ends16:38 The DCU Hasn't Started Yet20:30 Rick & Morty Season 7 Trailer22:51 Matthew Vaughn's Argylle Trailer27:05 The Marvels Confirmed Shortest MCU Movie28:06 Avengers: Secret Wars Cameo Rumours30:47 Martin Scorsese on Blockbuster Movies35:00 The Creator Review (spoiler warning 52:31 to 59:34)59:34 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read (feat. Gen V)01:06:08 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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That's right. My name is James, also known as Mr Sunday and with me as always is the backup recorder, presser of buttons, that's Nick Mason. Presser of button. Button, yeah. One button. Well, there's two buttons.

Actually, there's a series of buttons because I have to plug it in. Well, I plug it in actually. Well, you plug it in. You hand me the cord and I plug it in. Well, I plug it in, actually. You hand me the cord and I plug it in. That is true. That's teamwork. That's teamwork right there. You plug it in, but you plug it into a computer for power. So then it's like, do you want to connect USB

or something? I'm like, no. Stay out of my computer. You have to push the menu button so it doesn't do that and then it's ready to record. That's right. And then you push record and it's ready to go. Now, Collings, who edits these podcasts, he reminded us, we started this podcast on September 30th, 2013, which basically means that it's been 10 years. Whoa. And what does that mean to you? Let's crack open some sugar-free sodas. I only got water.

Oh, well, too late. Let me tell you this, this has been out of the fridge for quite some time. It's true. So, I don't know. Last time we did a thing, I think Claire got us a cake. Or did you get me a cake? I got you a humorous cake. Yeah. That made fun of all your shortcomings. That's right.

You've done two fewer episodes than me. But Claire's in Norway and you didn't bring a cake. That's correct. Because like a lot of longstanding anniversaries and big time events, once you've been doing it long enough, you forget. Who cares? Who cares? That's exactly right.

We'll probably do, I don't know about the something, but the 500th episode is coming up in a few weeks. That's right. I don't know what we're going to do. We're going to perform it live at every listener's house. That's right. We're going to record it once and we're going to transcribe it and then we're going to fly around the world.

And read. And read it, yeah, yeah. Read it verbatim. That's exactly right. And it will be covering the movie Snake Eyes. Big news this week though, Mason. We're going to be talking about one of the big releases of this week because there's been a few, but we're going to talk about The Creator.

Oh, yes. We're going to talk about the passing of a couple of Hollywood and TV legends. We're going to talk The Writer's Strike. It's come to an end, some of it. It pretty much came to an end just after we recorded the last week's episode. So that's good for us because, you know. It's content.

We can talk about it. It's content and we can, you know, there was a lot of follow-ups and fallout and so forth. Yep, exactly. We're going to talk about what's going on with the DCU as in has it started yet. Spoiler alert, apparently not. Apparently we thought it had. But we've been duped by that cad, James Gunn. I mean, they told us it was starting, didn't they? They said it's starting. I'm thought it had. We've been duped by that cad James Gunn. I mean, they told us it was

starting, didn't they? They said it's starting. I'm sick of them. I'm sick of them and I'm on the side of us. With the listeners, I'm on the side of us. You can be on the side of them if you want, James. I will be on the side of them. I just like to keep an open mind. What's it like over there? What's it like? With them. It's nice. It's cool, refreshing drinks. Unlike

your warm drink, which has been out for too long. Damn, I knew they would have had. And also over here, we actually look down on you. Because you're an elite. Yeah, that's what I'm telling you. Damn. I'm only doing this because I like to see both sides. You know that.

Damn. I knew them would have colder drinks and a better vantage point. Why don't you come over here? I've kicked the ladder down. Yeah. That's right. It's actually a literal vantage point. That's right.

That's right. We're going to do vantage point. That's right. That's right. We're going to do trailers for Rick and Morty Season 7, which you potentially watched. I did. And Matthew Vaughn's new movie, Argyle. We're going to talk about the Marvel's runtime, some Secret Wars secret news, Mason. Secret Wars secret news.

It's not an exclusive, but we'll talk about that. We're going to talk about what Martin Scorsese also thinks. It's a new segment. Not an exclusive. Somebody else. Everyone's talking about it. We cherry-picked our own reactions from what other people said. We're lost to the gate. Is that an expression?

And we got stuck. We're both like, we're touching elbows together. Come on, man. Martin Scorsese is talking about cinema again. We've run out of stuff at the craft services table. We got there and there's nothing. Well, I'd get something because you're in the elite. They would have saved you probably a sausage and bread,

keep it in the warmer. I would love that, yeah. I had a couple the other day. Pretty good, right? At Bunnings? No, at my work. Oh, well, that wouldn't have a sausage sizzle for. Early Christmas party?

A football. A football? Football sausage sizzle. At your work Oh, what did they have a sausage sizzle for? Early Christmas party? A football. A football? Football sausage sizzle. At your work? Yes. You had a football sausage sizzle at your work and you went? No, I was just there. I was going to say.

I don't feel like that's something you would have gone out and done. I didn't go on my off hours. I was there. I showed up and I'm like, oh, sausages. That's why I went work. It's like, do you want to come in? No. What are you talking?

No. Obviously not. And then Martin Scorsese is like cinema, et cetera. And then the creator. Yeah. He said the thing that people are forcing him to say. Yeah. Give his honest opinion.

They're making him say it. And then they twisted his words. Yep. They twisted those words. And I love that. Let's talk about this first, though. A couple of big names passed away, one of which being Michael Gambon has passed away at the age of 82.

People might probably most famously know him as Second Dumbledore. Look, I've said this before. I think all the Dumbledores except Jude Law have been miscast. Oh, yes. But he's a terrific actor. Let's not deny that, Mason. I was never going to deny it. And in a statement by NPR, it said he was a beloved husband and father.

Michael died peacefully in hospital with his wife, Anne, and son, Fergus, at his bedside following a bout of pneumonia. One fun thing to look up is just interviews with Michael Gambon. There's one on Top Gear where he's just like, I hate doing interviews and I just lie through all the interviews that I do because I hate doing them. Just a real character, it seems, as if, Mason. Yeah.

Recipient of three Olivier Awards, two Screen Actors Guild Awards, four BAFTAs. There you go. Oh, wow. I mean, you know, his career has included. He's in The Insider. He's in Gosford Park. He's in The King's Speech, if you recall.

Yes. He's in The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou, and he's a voice in Fantastic Mr. Fox. So, you know, pretty great. That's pretty great, man. And he's also the singing detective. I don't know if you've ever seen the 1980s. I have not. Singing detective. Okay, that's pretty good. That's good stuff. Who directed that? That's a great question. I And he's also the singing detective. I don't know if you've ever seen the 1980s. I have not.

Singing detective. Okay, that's pretty good. That's good stuff. Who directed that? That's a great question. I can look it up. Okay. Let's see who does it first.

Singing detective. I'm going to give up then. The singing detective. Dennis Potter. Oh, okay. Wait, no, he wrote. He righted Mason. He righted it.

He righted it. John O'Meal. Dunno. Dunno, Mason. Wow, great. Yeah, anyway. So that sucks. But, you know, 82, pretty good innings, obviously.

But 82 also, it doesn't feel that old anymore. I mean, people are living longer, which I think is bad. They're living longer but living wronger. Yeah, that's what I say. But I think he was a living writer. Yeah, no, he was. Although he wasn't a writer. No, he wasn't.

I'm sure, you know, when you're acting, there is a certain amount of your own writing and experience that you bring to a role. Wouldn't you agree? Like all his magic. Exactly, like all the magic he learned. Skill at doing magic. Harry Potter.

The other one was David McCallum. Yeah. Now you know more about this guy than I do. But you would definitely recognise him. I would say modern day audiences would know him best. He was a long-running character on NCIS. He was Dr Donald Mallard or Ducky. He's the medical examiner on that show. Very good. But also in the 60s he was on the TV show The Man From U.N.C was Dr. Donald Mallard or Ducky. He's the medical examiner on that show.

Very good. But also in the 60s, he was on the TV show The Man From Uncle, the original Man From Uncle. Beautiful work. So he was Ilya Kuryakin, who was the Russian half. Oh, okay. Right, yeah, yeah. So the army hammer role in the movie.

Don't say that. Okay. That's a terrible thing to say about a man who died. Yeah, he's better. He's better than that. So, yeah, so as the name would suggest the man from uncle was originally supposed to be like more of a solo project so um napoleon solo napoleon solo exactly um robert vaughn was napoleon solo and ilia kuriakun was supposed

to be like sort of a sidekick you know assistant he'd show up sometimes or what have you but then show up sometimes he showed up sometimes yeah um shows up sometimes. Yeah. But then like. I'm not coming in today. People responded to him so well that they were like, well, make him the other half. Unreal Mason. Big time, big career. He was in The Great Escape as well.

Oh, right. Yeah. Love The Great Escape. Also, here's a fun thing. He was a musician in the 60s as well. I knew this, but I didn't know any specifics. So I did some listening. And he's

sort of, it was sort of, I would say it was like kind of groovy instrumental soundscapes. It was that kind of vibe from the 50s. May not know specifically where you recognize this from. This is a song he did called The Edge. Okay. Have a listen to this. Here we go. Oh, I know this. What was that remixed into? Are you going to do it? Do you want to play? Yeah, I know this one. That's rude don't play a rude song

in our podcast you get arrested you also smoke marijuana anyway isn't that crazy that's the next I did not know that that's the next episode

so that's Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg but yeah so he's responsible for like one of the most memorable hip-hop beats of all time, but also the acting. But isn't that a bit of fun? That guy did way more than I thought.

That's incredible. What an incredible career. Makes Michael Gambon, you know, not, I mean, both great. But he had to pick one. No, I'm going to say both. I see both sides. Wow. From up here.

From up there on your big vantage point. It feels great. Wow. And there's a cool up there on your big vantage point. It feels great. Wow. And there's a cool breeze and I have a nice streak of the linen shirt. Oh, my God. That's incredible. Just wrinkled just perfectly so. Yeah, that's right.

Oh, you son of a bitch. Well, I'm down here in a burlap sack just sweating away. You're wearing socks and you've got one foot in a puddle. No shoes. Ugh. Anyway. Just drink my warm soda. The writer's strike is over. Which isn't to say the strikes are over.

No, we'll get to that. But I just, and incredible result. Like they pretty much got everything, which is incredible, especially because at the start the studios were like, you're actually being unreasonable and you don't understand how the business works. And also we are going to make you lose your homes.

Yeah, that's right. Which is a nice, fun, normal thing to say and definitely makes you seem like the good guys. And I see both sides. But at this point of view, it seems as if this is like a really good thing for the writers. And I know, again, we've had this discussion about like people like who cares about writers and whatever at Hollywood, blah, blah, blah. And again, I say like, well, what are you doing here?

How did you get to this podcast? But like this is a good example of collective bargaining as a whole. And they got a bunch of good results in terms of like. I can read a quick summary. Please, including a bit of fighting back against AI, which I think is nice. So discussing film on Twitter, great Twitter account who have been supporting this

the entire way. They've done just some highlight stuff. This isn't everything, but this is like a lot of the main stuff. Studios provide the WGA details of a show's viewership, including total number of hours streamed worldwide. Now that doesn't mean they're going to be released to the public. That means you can base the residuals that you get from a show airing. Like, basically, the more the show is seen, the more money you get, essentially, which

makes sense. Foreign residuals are now based on the streaming service's number of foreign subscribers, a 76% increase. The writers agreed on terms to ensure minimum staffing in the writers' room. This was a big deal because often they'd understaff writer's room. They wouldn't pay people properly or they'd be like, these are creative spaces where you can just shoot out. People come in and you spend half a day and you get out all your ideas and then you leave

and then they get a couple of people just to flesh out these ideas. Yeah, and then the original people don't get any money. Exactly, yeah. Or they get like $100 for the day or whatever. Exactly. So in development rooms, at least three writers, including the showrunner, are guaranteed 10 weeks of employment. So that's really good.

And once a show is greenlit, there's a minimum amount of writers that are required for the TV series. So you can't just be like, again, there's two people on this and good luck. I mean, there's a couple of guys. Isn't the guy behind Yellowstone, wasn't he like, well, I actually write everything myself and it's a really good show maybe you do write everything i didn't finish the pilot so i don't know but who am i to say we don't know we're out

exactly yeah but yeah and look that's fine you know what i mean like that's an example of that working yeah but most of the time that is not the case like at all uh do you have also there i think i have some provisions in terms of like if if you get brought into work on a script they have to disclose if they made it with ai before they yeah yeah and i think one of the things was if you re if you have to rewrite the script that counts as an original piece of work if it is ai yeah so ai can't write or rewrite literary material and the ai generated material not be considered source material a writer can choose to use ai but the studio cannot require the writer to use AI software.

Studios must disclose to writers if any material given to them has been generated by AI, as you mentioned, and the WGA reserves the right to assert that exploitation of writer's material to train AI is prohibited by the agreement or other law. Because with the way that AI currently works, and probably always will,

that it can only put out what you put in. So if an AI is punching up a script of like, write a new episode of Doctor Who, that's based on the input that it has from the episodes of Doctor Who that has been put into it. That's true. Which have previously already, somebody has made that. Oh, my God, it's the Daleks. Yeah.

There's too many of this. Oh, we got them. There was a big switch in the middle of one of them and we pressed it and they all fell over. Oh, nice. Yeah. That's cool. Beck can use that, actually. You can just have that. Yeah, Oh, nice. Yeah. That's cool. They can use that actually.

You can just have that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Not for free. No, obviously, yeah. This is also a three-year deal. Because everything is moving so rapidly, this all gets reassessed. Yes.

In three years, like that will come around fairly quickly. In three years. In three years. This is the kind of stuff where, and this is I think most workplaces, you've just got to keep pushing back and you can't let the studios or whoever's in charge dictate the terms of this because they'll just fuck you. Again, yeah. They don't care, so you have to make them do it.

That's right. Which isn't ideal, but that's just how it is. And it's worked. Yeah. Anyway, it's not all good news. Oh. For one, I know you hate this, nothing it seems at this point is moving up. Anything that's been delayed.

Oh, it's remaining delayed or being delayed even further. So I know you were like, oh, I want to see Deadpool 3 or whatever. I know you wanted that. I do. You will, but it won't move back to its original spot. Oh, come on, mate. Yeah. Also, the American.

Sounds like the writer's fault. Also, the American office is getting a reboot. Incredible. And there's an Australian version of The Office on the way as well. That's right. So Puck revealed that Greg Daniels, who adapted the series for the US from the original British show. Yes.

The character from A Midsummer Night's Dream. That's correct, yes. It's set to do a reboot of The Office. The series is apparently one of the many that will make the fire hose. He's doing a little dance while he reveals it in the forest. Oh, what a tangled web we weave. Isn't it? With this reboot of The Office.

You'll love this. The series is apparently one of me. What will Jim and Pam be up to this time? Can they, will they use them again? No, probably not. The series is apparently. Who will be the troublemaker and the prankster? I mean, if I was to do it, you just do it like you bring Dwight back

and you just bring some new people in. Oh, Dwight would be the office manager now. Okay, yeah, yeah. Like Scrubs interns. Like Scrubs interns. Well, that worked well. Yeah, I agree. The series is apparently one of the many that will make up

a fire hose of announcements of projects and casting once the strikes are officially concluded, which they have. And speaking of, the actors' strike is still currently happening. That's right. So don't do any acting out there. No, you're not allowed to. That looks as if it's going to be wrapping up shortly because you need both.

They need their actors to promote their films. Like I know the creator this week, Gareth Edwards, came out and he just had the names of all the actors on his shirt and he walked the red carpet by himself. That's right. You know? And it looks like. It said I'm with Stupid and then the names of all the actors

he worked with. And then? And it looks like. It said I'm with Stupid and then the names of all the actors he worked with. And then he said, John David Washington. Others. Others. He doesn't remember? He doesn't remember. You know who you are, even if I don't. And also it looks like a video game strike is going to move forward

through SAG after they did a vote and it got unanimously decided upon. That is up in the air at this point in time of recording. So this is all. which SAG-AFTRA, they did a vote and it got unanimously decided upon. That is up in the air at this point in time of recording. So this is all, again, they didn't get everything, but this is all very good news. And, again, there's a lot of this happening, particularly in the US at the moment with collective bargaining, and I just think it's delightful and wonderful. I am very excited for actual streaming numbers to get leaked.

And they will. Technically they're not supposed to, but come on, we know. Do it for us. Come on. Come on, guys. Do it for us. Yeah, because they do play, we talked about it, they walk that line of like, oh,

this is the most successful thing we've ever made, but none of these make enough money. You know, we can't pay anybody. Which is it? It's both. And I see both sides, Mason. And here we go. This is some exciting news from the DCU.

The DCU hasn't started yet, and it won't start until Creatured Commandos. Why not ever start? No. Well, that really bodes well for Aquaman 2, which hasn't come out yet. Yep. Just don't worry about that one. Yeah. If you were worried about that one, Mason.

James Gunn did a video, wasn't he, where he was like, these are like, they're in it, right, Sid. James Gunn did a video, wasn't he, where he was like, these are like his entries. They're in it, right? Yeah. But as I understand it, what he said was. I've got the quote. Go on. If I can.

Go on. If I can roughly misremember it. Yeah. He said something along the lines of Blue Beetle, the character. Yes. Will be in the DCU, the upcoming DCU. But his origin and, you know,

the events that happen in that movie may not necessarily be canon. Yeah. Whatever. The character will be back and anything that happens to the character after the events of, like, Creature Commando, Superman Legacy, that will be canon. Yep. And it might contradict what happened in the one movie that he was in

before that. That nobody saw. That nobody saw, exactly. We'll talk about a few other. Maybe the red-blue beetle he fought was actually a green-red-blue beetle, for example. Like a stoplight? Yep.

No, it would be yellow as well, wouldn't it? It's just green. This particular red-blue beetle is green. And if you remember that blue beetle being a red-blue beetle, you misremembered. Did I? Yeah, yeah. But all you could be like was from a different dimension,

and that's actually cool and part of continuity and that's cool and interesting, I think. Well, as long as it's cool. It's cool. As long as I didn't misremember and something cool happened. That's right. So James Gunn said on Twitter, nothing is canon until Creature Commandos next year,

sort of appetith, appetith. We have a lot of those up here, by the way, on the balcony. You would, wouldn't you? Yeah, great. A lot of canapes and appetiths. Oh, my God. A little sangria and a little glass. That's right. You dog of a bloke. sangria and a little glass. That's right.

You dog of a bloke. One of those nice little pancakes. They've got like the cream cheese kind of thing and maybe a piece of salmon and a thing through it. Yeah. And then a deeper dive into the universe of Superman Legacy after that. It is very human.

It's a very human drive to want to understand everything all the time, but it's okay to be confused on what's happening in the DCU since no one has seen anything from the DCU yet. And he said, and yes, some actors will be playing characters that have played in other stories and some plot points might be consistent, that's what you're talking about, might be consistent with the plot points from the dozens of films and shows and animated projects that have come in the past.

But nothing is canon until CC, Creature Commandos, and Legacy. So some of the characters which we confirmed to come over is John Cena's Peacemaker, Viola Davis' Amanda Waller, Blue Beetle as mentioned, and apparently Freddie Stromer is going to reprise his role as Vigilante. Okay then, great. So there you go. Love it.

Look forward to all of that when they eventually happen. I will and I do. Okay then. Also, at the end of one of his tweets there's a little Aquaman emoji. Okay. To indicate they're burying Aquaman. tweets, there's a little Aquaman emoji. Okay. To indicate they're burying Aquaman. Yeah. In that trench.

That's right. Or he drowned in that puddle of water at the end of The Flash. He drowned in the puddle of water. Yeah. Look, I mean, I'm sure they're not going to immediately go back on Blue Beetle's origin. I mean, they don't need to. Yeah. What are they going to?

It'll probably be in a Booster Gold movie or whatever or a team up. Oh, that reminds me. Spoilers for Blue Beetle, the movie that nobody saw. It's coming up right now. A couple of spoilers for you. I'm ready. But remember the post-credits sequence for Blue Beetle. Yeah.

And it's like, he's alive. Ted Kors is alive. Yeah. Probably in the future with Booster Gold. Yeah, okay. That didn't even occur to me at the time. But he's probably, that's probably where he was. Actually, it did occur to me.

I was just waiting for you to catch up. Oh, yeah. Thanks, man. It's good to let people come to things on their own. You know? I feel like that would have driven a wedge between us if I had such a good idea. Let me tell you, it would have.

I reckon if we were reviewing that and you said it in the post-credits sequence, I think the Ted Cods in the future with Booster Goal, I would have flipped this table and I would have burned this studio to the ground. And fair enough. And I'm thinking about it now. But the rage has, you know, subsided a little bit. You're handling it very well. With the benefit of time and hindsight and a enough. And I'm thinking about it now. But the rage has, you know, subsided a little bit. You're handling it very well. With the benefit of time and hindsight

and a new zen mindset I'm developing. Oh yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you developing that? What are you doing? Smashing stuff. Oh yeah. I'm going to one of those rooms where you smash stuff. Is it just a room in your house? Yep. Or whatever room that you're in in your house? Yes, yeah. Or any room anywhere, honestly.

Good. Trailers ahoy! We've got a new trailer for Rick and Morty Season 7, which the biggest deal is, of course, that they have replaced Justin Roiland, who more stuff has been coming out about. And it's not good, is it? Look, you know, here's the thing.

Oh, you endorse it, do you? Yeah, I love it. No, I've seen a lot of reactions towards this trailer over the internet. Oh, I meant the things he was doing. Oh, no, I don't endorse those. Cool, yeah. No, no, no, no. I'm very zen right now.

I think that depending on who you ask, the Rick impression is better or the Morty impression is better or they're both bad or you can't tell the difference i think the rick impressed to me the rick impression was better than the morty impression i i i could tell for both of them but i don't care it also lean into it yeah really quickly also i think one of two things one is that it's a person just reading from a script yes as opposed to roiland would, I guess, improv a lot and then they would animate to that.

So to me it does feel like somebody, like it's, you know, there's less of a, it's a very straight ahead. More like on track. On track and on script kind of thing. On rail. Yeah, yeah. Also, we can't rule out yet that it's not just an AI doing it. Yeah.

Because they didn't go, and by the way, I mean, I think the number one reason they haven't released a cast. Oh, I have the actual reason. Oh, you have the, okay, right, okay. But no, you say yours. Well, I was going to say they probably want to give a little distance because the voice actors are going to get death threats. You're pretty much spot on.

So via THR they said we want to keep the, we wanted the show to speak for itself. We believe in the strength of the season and our new voices and we want to preserve the viewing experience for fans. But, yeah, I think it is like you want to kind of see how people react to it before you throw these people under the bus. Yeah, absolutely. And there's going to be people who like never come around to it really.

Yeah, and there are a lot of people who are never going to notice. Yep, exactly. That's October 15th. That's coming up in a few weeks. But no, it looks like there's going to be some fun stuff in it. Fun stuff. Season 7, bloody hell, mate. Bloody hell, time flies, doesn't it?

Must be nice. Passage of time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So for you the flow of time doesn't exist? Yeah, it's nice. I'm saying it must be nice. It must be nice. It's nice. That is nice. You know nice. It must be nice. It's nice.

That is nice. You know what else is nice? There's another trailer. I know you just watched this because I watched you watch it. It's by Matthew Vaughan's Argyle. It's from the twisted mind of Matthew Vaughan. Twisted mind of Matthew Vaughan's Argyle. It's Argyle.

It's Argyle. So he, if you don't know Matthew Vaughan, he directed the movie Layer Cake, but then he directed the first Kick-Ass and then he directed the Kingsman movies. I enjoy his films for the most part. And one of the X-Men movies? Oh, yeah, First Class, which is my favourite. It's one of my favourite X-Men movies. So, yeah, this is a new spy thriller, but they tell you

that this might not be, well, you might not know what it seems. I know. Yeah, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you've said, do you think they should have spoiled this? That's a great question. So, I mean, if I recall as well, the marketing campaign some months ago, and I think because of how fast the news cycle moves now,

we've all forgotten about this, but I believe the original marketing push for this movie was something like, well, it's based on a book by an author and she's very mysterious and we don't know much about her. Okay. You can't do that now because people will figure it out immediately. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But, yeah, obviously that was all a little bit of movie magic.

Yeah, sure, yeah. And the reveal of this is that we initially think it's just a classic spy thriller, but then it turns out it's being written by Bryce Dallas Howard's character. That's right. But she is somehow predicting events. Or has an understanding of how espionage unfolds or something. So the events she's written in her book have come true to some degree

and so they want to get her so she can predict or think of a thing that's going to happen. Think of a thing that's going to happen. I don't know. But anyway, good cast. We've got Henry Cavill. So you've got your fictional world. Yeah.

That is also real? I don't know. I don't know either. Yeah. Because also in this trailer there's a moment because he plays Argyle, Agent Argyle, who's like your James Wan character with an awful flat top. And then at the end of the trailer they're like, now we're going to meet the real Argyle.

But who is it? Maybe it's Henry Cavill again. Might be. With a different haircut. Different haircut. But anyway, Henry Cavill's in it. Bryce Dallas Howard. Bryan Cranston is in this.

The great Sam Rockwell. Sam Rockwell. Dua Lipa. Yeah, okay, yeah. Who's this recording artist? Yeah. For young people? For young people exclusively.

Yeah, that's right. What is she performing up there? That's why you said it in that one. She's performing up there in your Overtower. Even above me. Whoa. Yeah, which I don't like, by the way. Makes you feel like right. What is she performing up there? That's why you said it in that one. She's performing up there in your Overtower. Even above me. Whoa. Yeah, which I don't like, by the way. Makes you feel like a real grub, doesn't it?

It does, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I, anytime Sam Rockwell plays like a killer, or like Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. Yeah. Which is the one? Was he in Seven Psychopaths?

I don't know. Maybe. Might have been. I'm thinking of something else. What's the one he did with Anna Kendrick where he's like an assassin guy as well? I don't know. Maybe. Might have been. I'm thinking of something else. What's the one he did with Anna Kendrick where he's like an assassin guy as well? I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, he's a good actor.

He is a good actor. I don't care what you say. I mean, a lot of this movie looks like very filmed on a green screen. None of this is real situation. There is that element, I'm not sure. Yeah, but otherwise, maybe it's fun. I love it when movies don't feel like they're happening. Same, same.

It really makes me feel like I'm there, you know? I mean, there's a- In a green screen volume situation where nothing's real. But I feel like I'm right there. Yeah. And I think that's cool. But there is, I feel like to Matthew Vaughn's movie, there's always been that hyper-reality.

Sure. So I don't necessarily think this is going to be a problem. He doesn't make, like, fucking hideous movies. That is true. So in my opinion, except when Elton John did that big karate kick in that movie, that Kingsman sequel. Yeah. That's a bad movie.

That's a bad movie. I agree. And that's quite recent as well. Yeah. Which suggests the trajectory is going down. But I thought the third Kingsman prequel was actually quite good. Yeah, but did he direct that? Yes, he did.

Oh, he did? Okay, well, good for him. Unless he didn't. Which he did, though. Fairly confident. What are you asking if he's up there in your ivory tower? No, he's actually down there with you. Oh.

Yeah. A grub. Yeah. I don't want to talk to anybody down here. Not even director Matthew Vaughn? No, no. I feel he'd be a British grub, wouldn't he? Wearing one of those little...

Oh, yeah, maybe, yeah. Pinky blinders hats. Yeah, yeah. He's wearing a tie and a waistcoat, but maybe no shirt underneath. Exactly. So he's all ragged. Maybe some New Balance shoes.

Yep. But they're dirty. They're like an old pair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Out February. Anyway, let's talk about The Marvels, which is a movie that's coming out. That has been confirmed as the shortest ever MCU movie,

coming in at an hour 45. I'm hoping that it's just like a – Lean and mean. Yeah, it's not cut down because it's dreadful. I'm hoping that it's like this is a real lean, fun experience. We will know if it starts with Iman Valani doing like a voiceover. It's like I never thought I'd get into an adventure like this with my idol Captain Marvel because then, you know.

They're just skipping a bunch of stuff? Yeah, they're skipping a bunch of stuff and they didn't write enough. They got on the editing bay and they went, we didn't film enough to make a movie that makes sense so we're going to have to add a voiceover to this. I think that's probably going to happen. Oh, no. I suspect.

But, look, honestly, at this point I think it looks fun and we'll see. Yeah. And people will probably come back and go, I can't believe you thought that it looked fun and it came out and it wasn't fun. I can't believe that either. I couldn't believe it. I mean, you were there and you couldn't believe it when I said that. Yeah, yeah.

I'm in the room. Yeah, man. Let's talk about Secret Wars. Okay. This is the upcoming movie, Secret Wars. So this is the finale to the present Marvel fight. So it's Kang and then it's Secret Wars, isn't it? It's Kang Dynasty maybe.

Fuck all right. Or Secret Wars. Or maybe who knows what they're doing with it. Because it's the last two, so maybe they'll merge them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe they'll skip Kang Dynasty because it doesn't play well anymore. Maybe Kevin Feige will quit. Maybe Kevin Feige will quit. Maybe Kevin Feige will quit?

Maybe he will sell everything to Apple. Oh, I'd love that. Just on his own. Can he do that? Just an under the table deal? He's just done it. Disney's like, what's happening, Kevin? And he's like, I don't report to you anymore. I report to the guy who was in Steve Jobs but he's the other guy. Tim Apple. Tim Apple. Yeah.

That's fair enough. I'm keeping the money. I'm. Tim Apple. Tim Apple. Yeah. That's fair enough. Yeah. So this is what- And I'm keeping the money. I'm Kevin Feige. You would too. This is why my time to shine, hello, there was an image. That person reliable.

Some are and some aren't. Okay. This was confirmed by- So no is the answer. No, no, no, because this is confirmed by another person. Oh. So that's why I put it in.

This is what Secret Law was going to be like and there's a photo and there's Tobey Maguire, Spider-Man, Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, Chris Evans' Human Torch, and that whole team. Thomas Jane Punisher, Nicolas Cage, Ghost Rider, Ben Affleck, Daredevil, I think we heard he's not in it. Wesley Snipes' Blade, Lou Ferrigno, Hulk. But can we get some toasts, Ed?

Pretty much. Although some of those Fox-verse Marvel characters won't be making it out of Deadpool 3. It's just missing Tom Holland's Spider-Man as the lead in Avengers Secret Wars. Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man will appear, but he won't be making it out of Deadpool 3. It's just missing Tom Holland's Spider-Man as the lead in Avengers Secret Wars. Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man will appear, but he won't be the lead. So basically, I think we've talked about this before, it seems as if Deadpool 3 is going to lead up into a big X-Men Fox send-off, plus all those other universes that were in the early to mid-2000s.

Right, okay. The Fantastic Fours and your Nicolas Cage Ghost Riders. Okay. Maybe your Eric Banner's Hulk. I don'tiders. Okay. Maybe your Eric Banner's Hulk. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe your Eric Banner's Pointer. Yeah.

Maybe your Eric Banner's Chopper. Oh, yeah. Maybe your Eric Banner's Love the Beast. Maybe your Eric Banner's Troy. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Eric Banner's the one, Lucky You, where he's a poker guy. Maybe Eric Banner's The Dry.

Oh, yeah. And Eric Banner's the sequel to The Dry, but they're separate guys because they're different universes. No, they're not, are they? They are. What? No, I've decided The Dry. Oh yeah. And Eric Banner's the sequel to The Dry but they're separate guys because they're different universes. No, they're not, are they? They are. What? No, I've decided they are. Oh, okay. In this universe, they're separate guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they fist fight over who's better at detecting

a sordid undercurrent to a tiny town. Oh my god. I'm better at this, you son of a bitch. Oh my god. And then they probably reboot. They'd start again. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. With X-Men and all the Avengers are recast and whatever. Yeah.

And some of them won't be. Yeah. I'd imagine. That's fun. Movies are fun again. You didn't think they were. I thought they were just dreary. But it sounds like they're going to be fun again.

We're still in dreary, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they'll be fun again. I agree. Let's talk about fun because this is what Martin Scorsese said about movies via GQ. Just movies? Yeah.

I think they're fun. The danger there is what they're doing to our culture because there is- He's talking about superhero movies. Yeah. Not just movies. Yeah, I think he's talking like generic blockbusters. Yeah, yeah, because you said movies. You said here's what Martin Scorsese thinks about movies,

and if he's just like, you know the thing about movies, they're dangerous. All movies, including my movies. I said here's what Martin Scorsese thinks about movies and if he's just like, you know the thing about movies, they're dangerous. All movies, including my movies. I'm a dangerous man. Arrest him. Come and get me. I've got a katana. Did you know he has a katana?

Yeah. He brings it to all his press conferences. I bought it off eBay. Come and get me. I've been studying the blade. That's right. Because there's going to be generations now that think movies are only those. That's what movies are.

Yeah, comic movies. They already think that, which means that we have to fight back stronger. And it's got to come from the grassroots level. It's got to come from the filmmakers themselves. And you'll have, you know, the Safdie brothers. And you'll have Chris Nolan. You know what I mean? And hit them from all sides.

Hit them from all sides. You don't give up. Let's see what you've got. Get out there and do it. Go reinvent. Don't complain about it. But it's true because we've got to save cinema. And people are like, Christopher Nolan actually directed the Batman movies.

That's right. Some of the greatest moments of cinema actually. Marty Scorsese. And, like, he probably knows that. But I think he's probably talking about all of Christopher Nolan's movies and not specifically just the Batman movies. That's right. I think.

Oh, I've got an update. He said he's talking specifically about the Batman movies. Only the Dark Knight Rises. But I, you know, he kind of gets grief for this. Maybe not so much anymore, but he is right. Yeah. Like I just want to see stuff and from any level that's like creator driven.

It doesn't matter. And again, like he loves movies. He loves movies. If I get any impression from Martin Scorsese, it's that he loves movies. He's, you know, he doesn't want superhero movies to disappear, I imagine. He just wants the thrust of this often is like, you know,

the thing about independent cinema or smaller work is that oftentimes they can't get a slot at the movie theatre because the superhero movie is taking up every time slot. Every conceivable goddamn screen. That's right. So there you go. And a lot of people are like, oh, you know, it's nice of you. Is this me?

Yeah. Because he's like, oh, nice of you to say this from your ivory tower, the level above me is what you're saying. Where I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As if, but like he does a lot for independent films. He absolutely does. And he like produces people's smaller movies.

Yeah. And he pays for stuff and he preserves, you know, forgotten films. He's a champion of cinema. He's a champion of cinema. And he directed Goodfellas probably. He directed Goodfellas probably. He nearly directed Dick Tracy. That's right. But he didn't, thank God. He's a champion of cinema. And he directed Goodfellas probably. He directed Goodfellas probably. He nearly directed Dick Tracy. That's right.

But he didn't, thank God. That's right. Stepped away. You have the good grace to let Warren Beatty take that bullet. Speaking of, we're doing The Phantom this week for Caravan of Garbage. Oh, that's right. Somebody thought of a link, and we've already recorded the last one, so we can't include this.

But how's this for a link? Because we're trying to figure out how we link all these movies together. Okay. So we did Dick Tracy. We're doing The Phantom. We've got The Rocketeer. We've got The Shadow. We're going to do Green Hornet.

And Michael Talks Too Much says, my pitch, call them retro vigilantes. Oh. I think that's the best link we've had so far. I mean, sure, except Dick Tracy is a licensed member of the police department. Yeah, he is too. He's not a vigilante, is he? Except on the occasions where maybe he takes his... Sometimes he does. Sometimes he loses his badge, I guess.

Sometimes he won't give Dustin Hoffman a glass of water. That's true. That's vigilante. That is vigilanteism. You're absolutely right. That's the best so far, is what I'm saying. Yeah. I'm just looking for a title for when I package these together as one set when I'm on holidays in January. I'm just looking for a title for when I package these together as one set when I'm on holidays in January.

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Yes. From a movie called The Creator. Oh, an original, an original IP. Yeah, like an idea someone thought of, independent of. They thought of it from a comic book. No. They thought of it from a comic book. No. They thought of it from a real book? No, no, no.

You know how, like, have you ever, how do I explain this? Have you ever, like, you didn't have anything in your brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And all of a sudden then there was something which you could then articulate. Like Spider-Man. Yeah, kind of. Because I saw Spider-Man on the telly. I saw Spider-Man on the telly and then Spider-Man. Yeah, kind of. Because I saw Spider-Man on the telly. I saw Spider-Man on the telly and then Spider-Man's in my brain.

But imagine if you didn't but you did think of Spider-Man. I did think of Spider-Man. No, but you never saw him but you still thought of it. That's impossible. That's impossible, James. You're stupid. I am stupid. You stupid man.

Spider-Man, you just looked, he's on the telly and you see him and you think it's Spider-Man. Yeah, I know. Just try it one time. Maybe you'll like it, you bloody elitist. So the creator on a budget of $80 million somehow. I'm going to specify how. It seems like it only needs to have a $20 million US opening weekend

to do well. It needs $160 million worldwide to break even, which I feel like it only needs to have a $20 million US opening weekend to do well. It needs $160 million worldwide to break even, which I feel like it should. They also are backed by Disney because 20th Century Studios now have this. What was the other production company? Was it Regency or something? I don't know.

What was it, Mason? I'll just think of it in my mind, shall I? Well, they've already existed. you should be able to, Mason. Like Spider-Man. Like Spider-Man. New Regency. There you go. New Regency.

Not Regency. New Regency. Wow. Yuck. Imagine if it was old Regency. So that's pretty incredible. Yeah. Again, so we'll talk more specifics on it again,

how this all came to be because, I mean, visually, my goodness. But what do you think the story was? Oh, come on, mate. Oh, it's the future. Yep. But maybe in a parallel earth? Seems to be. 2060 something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the future. And it's a post-apocalyptic future because somebody went and done invented AI and then there was a big nuclear explosion. Someone did the Terminator future. Someone did the Terminator future like a bunch of dum-dums. But then, so now there's real – AI has been banned from the United States,

but it's still around in other places. And the United States is like, I think there's some trouble brewing in a place not America. We're going to do Vietnam. Let's do Vietnam in not America. But we think AI has got something cooking and it could be bad for us, the world, and by that we mean America. And by that I mean they mean the big ship that flies around the world

and drops bombs on people. Yeah, they've built that. It's pretty cool. It's like a big trade federation ship. Yes. And it's always sneaking up on you with its big lasers. It's like a Thunderbirds ship. It's like a Thunderbirds ship, isn't it?

But anyway, so John David Washington. Yeah. He was out. Yeah. He had a love and he had a dream. He had a job being undercover and so on and so forth. Yeah. But now he's out of that biz, but they're like,

we're going to get you back. You've got the knowledge to find the creator. Yeah. That's the name of the movie. Who's the creator of all AI. And the weapon. You've got to get it. We think you can get it. And he's like, I don't want to do it. And they're like, come on, though. Who's the creator of the all AI. And the weapon. You've got to get it. We think you can get it.

And he's like, I don't want to do it. And they're like, come on, though. Come on, man. Just do it. Just do it. Just fucking do it. God. Hey, prick, do it.

That's what they say to you. And he's like, all right. I'll do it. I'll just change my mind. That's right. I was being coy. I was always going to do it. He was reluctant.

He didn't want to do it. But then he ended up doing it. Yeah. How do you feel about this? I liked it a lot. I liked it too. I will say this. Yes.

I think a lot of this is vibes and visually based. Yes. Plot-wise, I would say it is akin to Avatar. Yes. And the plot is fine. Yeah. Like there's not really any surprises. No, and there's some things in it that you're like,

does that really add up or whatever? But that, and it's all well and good to be like, I know it's ridiculous to be like the strength of this movie is the way it looks, but it's not just the way it looks when you kind of know, when you know how they made it. Because it's not just like spectacular CGI and whatever, which there is in this. It is like the way that it is done, which, again, I will get into,

which is really impressive. The way that it is done and speaking of impressive, one thing that really struck me is that Gareth Edwards, who did Rogue One, he's got a great sense of scale. Really good, yeah. Like I spent the entire movie going, wow, Earth's really big, isn't it? Yeah, it's too big. Too big, if anything.

Someone should shoot a bigger laser at it. Right. Cut the Earth in half. Maybe just shave off a bit. Too big, if anything. Someone should shoot a bigger laser at it. Right. Cut the earth in half. Maybe just shave off a bit. You really get a sense, and even in huge blockbusters where there's, you know, helicarriers and huge monsters. Oh, and of course he did Godzilla movies. Yeah, and he did the movie Monsters as well.

Yeah, yeah, and, you know, you really do get a sense when they bring in a big tank or they bring in, you know, do get a sense when they bring in a big tank or they bring in, you know, an orbital bombardment from a giant platform or any number of other things. You're like, oh, this is, this is, this is, this, the scale of this is tremendous and you really feel it. Again, even though it's just, you know, I think there was a lot of filming in Thailand. I have so many details.

Oh, good. But, you know, so much of this, obviously the scale of it is too big for it to be practical. Yeah. So a lot of this is CG, but it feels like it's all there. But here's the thing, though. Oh, yes. Most of it is practical.

Oh. And the way that it works, he said he was friends, I was listening to a bunch of interviews, he said he was friends with a bunch of concept artists and he basically got them to mock up the idea of what this story was, this future where there's AI integrated with regular technology, regular people I should say, and earthly environments. So he took those and he took it to the studio, New Regency.

Not Old Regency. He wouldn't even bother. God. You turn the door handle, the door handle would come off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We're only interested in movies about old things. Old things.

Like Penny Farthing. Sure. Like one of those, like a cigarette, but like an older one. Oh, yes. Do you have any of those? I don't have any. No. I wouldn't mind one right now.

I don't have one. Okay. Yeah. But I could ask my dad. Ask your dad. Sure. He's not here, but I can... You want me to call him?

Give him a call on one of those, the phone we have over there. It's got like a salt shaker on a bit of cable and you turn the rotary thing and then you're talking to one end but you're talking to the thing on the phone but you listen on the salt shaker thing or whatever. Yeah, if you could do that. I'll do that. I don't remember his number, but I'll do it. It's just on the phone, but you listen on the salt shaker thing or whatever? Yeah, if you could do that. I'll do that. I don't remember his number, but I'll do it.

It's just in my phone, which you told me not to bring. Well, we are old Regency. Anyway, and they said, it's impossible. This is a $300 million movie. This is like Avatar, what you're pitching. So he fired all his friends. He did. He said, you made me look like a fool.

Yeah. In front of New Regency. You seen those guys? They've got frigging jetpacks. They call us L over there. They smoke the new brand of cigarettes, whatever that is. So he said, no, listen, this is how I do it. Because he's done this before.

Yeah, he does his own special effects. Or he used to. So he goes, I want to use real locations and a small crew. So basically the way he broke down the numbers of it is that building a set, like a set you would use in this, costs about $200,000. That's for every set, right? But he said, he did the math and what if you flew a small crew, sometimes as little as four people, to locations all around the world,

mostly in Asia, as you mentioned. So they were able to go to 80 different locations and shoot all of this, for the most part, like on site. And as a result of that, there is some green screen, but not much. There's some stagecraft, you know, the Mandalorian, the Ali, the E-screens, whatever. But there's a difference between the stagecraft,

the volume, doing it well, or just having actors stand in front of it. Exactly. There's a huge difference. Like the guy who invented it and who was involved, I think, a lot on the first season of The Mandalorian. Yeah. Like you can tell when he left. Yeah, absolutely.

In the later seasons of that show because people are just like, well, it's easy then, I guess. You just put people in front of the volume. It's kind of a sand thing. I know at one point they filmed, I think, inside like a giant Hadron Collider and they were like, and he was like, they're not going to let me film in this because I want to do explosions and gunfire. But the people there were just like, could you just put us in the movie? And he was like they're not gonna let me film in this because i wanted to explosions and gunfire but the people there were just like you just put

us in the movie and he's like yeah all right whatever great there's a moment where you see like jemma chan on a beach and he goes if we start filming this people are going to kind of come up and see what's going on we can't close off this beach right but because it was literally four people yeah people were just eating their dinners and whatever no but so they're in the movie oh just people in the background regular people because it's so like this guerrilla style yeah and and what's what else is incredible is that they have to sign releases probably because they're like in the background oh very convenient so it was shot on this sony camera called the fx3 which is around four thousand us dollars we can get one of those. We can get one. We need $4,000, Mason.

Give me $4,000. We'll get one now. We'll make a movie. And he did most of the camera work himself. Also, because most of it isn't set, it's all 360-degree environment, which is impossible to film a lot of the time because when you switch the camera around, because a lot of this is long takes, you have to set it up.

You switch it around, you see a 7-Eleven in the background. Exactly. That's not a future 7-Eleven, it's a regular 7-Eleven. You see the crew with the craft services and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what they did, they had like a lighting rig just on a pole and they'd hold it above the camera behind it and then they'd just have the dynamic lighting like happen

as they were filming it. There's like no proper lighting set up. And also, this was all edited together before. On an iPhone. On an iPhone. They did it on the day. I know. It was all edited together before visual effects.

So the whole thing was locked. Yeah. And then they layered the visual effects over the top. So it's not like we would talk about this with like the Marvel movies and it's not just Marvel. It's all movies. Yeah, yeah. All movies that Scorsese hates.

Well, they film four hours of footage. Yeah. And then they do visual effects and they constantly. Are changing. Changing and revisiting what they want the effect to be over and over and over again. And then they edit the movie together once that's finally finished. So he filmed the movie, edited it down.

He's like, this is the movie. Yep. It's two hours-ish long. Yep. And then they put the effects on. Exactly. And presumably he knew what he wanted. Yes.

And he went, just do it like this, make it the best you can, and we're not going to make any changes, if I had to guess. And that's why this movie is $80 million. It's phenomenal. And I don't think everybody is capable of doing this. I don't think every studio would even trust this kind of process. I think Disney's Star Wars might. They should get him.

They should get him to do a movie. They should maybe, shouldn't they? But I feel like, I mean, this is a new way to do things and it seems really obvious. Sure. But nobody has really done it on this scale before and it's just you might do it for like a small indie project or whatever or a short film, whatever.

But a long film? No, or a short film, whatever. But this is. But a long film? No, thank you. Just genuinely impressive. How do you feel about the influence of this? I mean, he's talked about how it's like Vietnam movies. Vietnam movies, yeah. I mean, we've got Star Wars.

We've got a little bit of Akira in there. I think I felt some Akira in there definitely. There's some E.T. in it. Oh, yeah, okay. Some Avatar. Yep. Yeah, liked it. Good. Steven Spielberg's A some E.T. in it. Oh, yeah. Okay. Some Avatar. Yep. Yeah. Liked it.

Good. Steven Spielberg's A.I. potentially. Yeah, but I didn't feel like it was overwhelmingly one thing or another. Like a lot of people went, oh, this is independent Star Wars. I mean, to a degree, but also it's entirely set on Earth and it doesn't, I didn't go, man, this is so Star Wars. Like when Rebel Moon comes out, I'm sure I'll be like, this is really Star Wars.

This is Star Wars, but they're effing and jeffing with each other. That's right. Force and Jedi-ing. Force and Jedi-ing, that's what they say be like, this is really Star Wars. This is Star Wars, but they're effing and jeffing. That's right. Force and Jedi-ing. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, but I just think I love the, what was that book or show that you recommended where it was just like, it was an art book and it's like, it might be like a farm and then there's like a piece of like old weird machinery or whatever. Simon Stalhag?

Simon Stalhag. Yeah, he's done a bunch of – yeah, he was influenced by – so he started his career doing like landscapes because he's from Iceland or Sweden or, you know, one of them. One of them, guys. One of them, one of them. So he started doing these. Ooh, I'm tall.

I'm in a long coat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of these kind of natural landscapes. And then he discovered the work of Ralph McQuarrie, you know, designer for Star Wars, and he just started being like, yeah, yeah. A lot of these kind of natural landscapes. And then he discovered the work of Ralph McQuarrie, you know, designer for Star Wars. And he just started being like, okay, what about a wheat field but it's a strange machine is tilling the wheat or what have you. And, yeah, you're absolutely right. I got a bit of that as well.

Yeah. Which became the show on Amazon which is called? Rebecca Hall is in it? It's called Rebecca Hall is in it, yes. It's called, it's the name of one of them, so it's not The Electric State. Yeah. It's called The Tales from the Loop.

That's the one. I didn't find it in time. There you go. You did it. I did it with my mind. You did. I came up with it in my mind. Was that an idea?

No, you were recalling a thing that already happened. There was nothing in my mind, like you said, and then there was a thing in my mind. Oh, okay, then yes. And it wasn't Spider-Man. That's what I was saying. Oh, he did it. Also, District 9 obviously did a version of this,

and it's amazing they've kind of taken this long to get. The District 9, I would say, because it came out in 2009 or whenever it was, would have been much cheaper the year it came out in. I think I really like John David Washington in this. I didn't love his character in Tenet. Oh, yeah, sure. I was like this guy's kind of blank and whatever.

I'm not saying because he was bad. Yes. Because I think he's great in like Black Klansman and he's great as Denzel Washington's son. That is true. He must be proud because he sounds a lot like him, doesn't he? Sure does. Or does he?

But I think, yeah. You think he's like, hey, Dad, I was just in the creator. What were you in? Oh, Equalizer 3. Interesting. Isn't that a TV show now? Yeah. Dad?

Dad? Dad. Just a second sequel to that. Okay, terrific. Yeah, interesting. Interesting. I went to 80 countries. Is that anything?

Where were you? Just Italy. Okay, great. Actually, that sounds good. That sounds really good. Did that anything? Where were you? Just Italy. Okay, great. Actually, that sounds good. That sounds really good. Did you see Three Qualizer? I meant to watch Two Qualizer. Oh, yeah.

I'll get to it. Yeah, sure. I'll get to it. I liked Gemma Chan. Sure. I thought she was great. Ken Watanabe is always good. Apparently he wrote that role.

He was like, look, I don't just want to cast him because I do all the time because he was in Godzilla. But then he was like, what am I doing? Yeah. Of course I get that. Cast your friends. Why not? Yeah, that's fine. And Allison Janney is in this time because he's in Godzilla. Yes. But then he was like, what am I doing? Yeah. Of course I get that. Cast your friends. Why not? Yeah, it's fine.

And Allison Janney is in this. I loved her in this. I thought she was really good. There's definitely, because there's like a bunch of like, there's an American special forces team. Yes. And that was very aliens, like that kind of vibe of like this gun-ho super over-the-top American team,

which maybe also are a little bit overconfident, Mason. Oh. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Oh. I also thought Amar Chadha Patel, he's the guy who keeps showing up as different androids. Yes. He's like a stock model.

Yeah. He's in Willow, and he's great. And so just seeing him, he's not in it that much, but seeing him like appear and reappear, that was actually one thing I wish this movie did was that they- It says Danny McBride is in this movie. It's not. He was supposed to be at one point.

Okay. I think he was probably one of the soldiers, I assume. Yeah, more or less. But I think- He would have been the pilot, like he was in Alien, Covenant. Covenant something. Pro-Promethean. Promethean.

Sequel. Catherine Waterson, maybe? Sure, sure, sure. I think that idea of, because what you can do in this universe is you can get, if you're a human, you can get your face scanned and then you can kind of donate it to AI and they can make you multiple copies or whatever

it's basically like, I don't know what is it, it's like putting free software out in the world it's like getting scanned by Marvel and then they put you in the background of a movie I think they should have maybe done more with that in this. Right. And I really liked Madeline Eula-Voles who plays the little AI person in this.

I'm like, got a good performance out of this child who's like seven or eight or something. Yeah. And no, like I thought, oh, how much of this, because all of the robots have this thing where like the back of their head is kind of neck and the back of the lower part of their head and like neck is. It's missing. It's missing. And you can see right through the way the ear would be. They don't have any ears.

Yeah. And I thought, oh, was any of this like. Was it green screened off? I don't think it is. I can't. The behind the scenes footage I got, I didn't see any of that. There you go. Any of that.

There you go. But, yeah, I think something that I guess I didn't love about this is some of the robots, and in particular the kid robot, it's a bit vague what they can and can't do, how close they have to be and all these kinds of things. Yeah, uh-huh. And it's like if you're fighting this war, why are you making robots that are as strong as humans, I guess? But I guess the point is that it's really a one-sided war in that the robots, the AI, they don't want to fight a war.

They want to stop the war and then just drop it. Yeah, right. If we could just drop it. The American, like the imperial force is that thing of like we need to destroy them or they're going to destroy us. And they're like we're probably not going to destroy you we better spend trillions of dollars on a giant floating platform yeah destroy everything well speaking of i think the scale of that thing is fucking cooked i think it's all over the place you know where is it in orbit how close is it

yeah no you're right yeah like if it's visible from the ground sometimes sometimes it is like is it because it doesn't seem capable of moving from orbit so is it in it sometimes it is like is it because it doesn't seem capable of moving from orbit so is it in but sometimes it's like it looks like you could shoot it out of the sky but then in a lot of the scene there's there's some scenes that take place on it and it's like oh is it so it's in orbit yeah no you're right yeah but whatever yeah whatever who bloody cares who bloody cares spoilers yes i'm gonna say best movie ever i think people should check it out i don't think. Yeah.

Do you think it'll do well? I don't know. I think it'll do all right. Apparently it's getting a big push, but we're recording a bit earlier than all the official numbers are going to come out. So I don't. And look, maybe, you know, there might be some red carpet events where all the stars can show up now.

Maybe they can. Yeah, so. I'm just looking now and there's nothing concrete on this as of yet. What's the Rotten Tomatoes score, James? That's like 69-ish, I think. The range they're looking at is about $15 million to $22 million, which again would be good because it's an $80 million movie, so that would be completely acceptable.

Yeah. Yeah, well, exactly. It doesn't have to. And I mean this is probably, you know, this is why I'm sure Gareth Edwards got to make this and why he'll almost certainly get to make another thing because he can say, well, look, it doesn't have to pull in a billion dollars. Yeah, give me money.

I mean unless executives' brains are so broken at this point that they're like, okay, well, it's $80 million, but if it could make a billion, we'd appreciate that. Yeah. You know? Because that would be an even more profit actually for us. So if it could do that. That would reflect well on us.

Yeah. But I don't know. Maybe this will, you know, after all this, maybe they're looking for stuff that will just consistently turn in a decent profit. Or bad decisions all the time. Oh, my God. It's probably going to be bad decisions all the time.

Yeah. That's fun too though. That's fun. Okay, we're in spoilers now? We are. I think it's time for big time spoilers time. So the thing they need the time. Yeah. That's fun too, though. That's fun. Okay, we're in spoilers now? We are. It's time for big time spoilers time. So the thing they need to do is they need the kid, the AI kid, to blow up the big floating ship in the sky,

which keeps shooting everybody. So initially nobody on the side of the Americans knows what this AI device even is, this ultimate weapon. So it turns out to be a little girl, a little simulant, which is the robot with the human face, and her ability is that she can control all kinds of anything, electronic TVs. But it's like she's like growing into it.

Yeah. She's also capable of – she is a new type of this simulant. She was built from scans of a human embryo, and so she presumably could grow into an adult. Yeah, well, you see the embryo at the start. As a baby, like baby size. Yeah, I'm assuming that that is the case. Yeah.

Or it's an upgrade thing, I don't know. And she can control electronics and electrical stuff, cars and weapons and all that sort of stuff. So once John David Washington's character, Joshua, finds her, he's like, I'm going to get her out of this. I'm going to do some – we're going to do cool stuff. And so obviously the Americans and the humans want to kill her and Joshua's idea is – or the AI side is like, well,

what we could do is if we get her up to the Nomad platform, the Americans' weapon platform, we can use her to switch it off and that will like turn the tide of this war and maybe they'll leave us alone because it took them 10 years to build this platform. Yeah. So but then John David Washington – but then they're like, well, that'll kill her. But, man, what can we do?

And he's like – and he's hiding. He's like, I don't like the sound of that. Yeah, I don't like this. But then they're like, let's go up there anyway. Yeah. It actually might be cool. Yeah, it might be cool to go up there. Yeah.

And he's brought into it because his wife, because he was undercover with Gemma Chan, who turns out to be the creator, by the way. Whoa. The second creator because her father was the first creator because he believes that she's dead and they were going to have a kid together. That's right. But she didn't actually, he's told that she didn't actually die

and she's still out there. It turns out that she has been in a coma the entire time and lost their child. Yes, in a shopping centre. In a shopping centre, yeah. And that doesn't come up again. It's true, yeah. It's a bit of a loose thread.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the child is. I want to check Kmart. The child is also technically his child. Yes. He's scanned from an embryo which he and her made together using sex, I assume. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whatever that looks like. And so I feel like it didn't always emotionally hit for me, that connection that he had to the child. Yeah, right. I mean, I guess that is the downside perhaps of just filming exactly what you need. Yeah, okay, yeah. Maybe there could have been a couple more scenes to flesh that out. I think there was a good, like, there's a good emotional vibe

at the end when, you know. Completely. I completely agree with that, yeah. The point where, you know, they go up to the platform and they have to destroy it, but then they get separated and they're about, you know, the girl can escape on the escape pod. That's a great shot with an escape pod.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's a moment before that I think where they're hugging and there's emotion but I can't remember what scene it was but I remember going, that's some good work there. Yeah, yeah. I agree with that. I think, yeah, I agree with that last scene. I think also because he talks about how like all he wants is like

a one more moment with his wife, Gemma Chan. Yes. And the way that he gets that is it's established slightly earlier on that, not slightly, it's pretty much earlier on, where you can scan somebody as they're dying or if they're alive and then you can copy their consciousness into a robot or whatever. So then the very last thing is he gets like a final 20 seconds with his dead wife at that point.

That's right. And I thought that was really like a nightmare. Because that's all he ultimately wanted. That's right. He's thought that was really like a nod. Because that's all he ultimately wanted. That's right. He's just like, I'm happy to die. I'm cool with that. I thought that was really good. Yeah.

I thought it was really good too. Yeah. A lot of people, they might not like movies the way that we like movies. That's very true actually. But I guess they're having an in-depth understanding. I'd like to see Komodo and Mayo like movies as much as we like movies. Good luck. Yeah, good luck.

Gentle dorks. Yes. Got them. Got them. Got them. They probably reviewed this and done a very good job. I will be watching that review after because I can't watch it before because I'll just say that.

Yeah, right, exactly, yeah. I'm surprised it's not Hiram on Tomatoes actually looking at this. But I don't think it's like a perfect movie. But, yeah, I mean, I just like this kind of like, Neil Blomkamp used to do a bunch of this kind of stuff, you know, like Elysium District 9 chappy, I guess, you know, that kind of. But I'd love to kind of go back. And it doesn't have to be even this aesthetic.

Yeah. But just, you know, this is like a very interesting way to make something. Yeah. It could be very grounded and very, like, very mundane and just about, you just about someone's life. Star Wars. Star Wars.

Spider-Man's there. Spider-Man's there. You guys, do you remember being in Star Wars? I'm in Star Wars. Oh, my God. Yeah, exactly. It could be that. It can be that.

You better go as a big liar and say he's in Star Wars. But, yeah, you're right. Just, you know, guerrilla style and small scale and know what you want before you go in and make that. Yep. And don't destroy people's lives building special effects and so forth. Boy, I hope nothing comes out about Crunch about this movie. Yeah.

I mean, you never know, do you? You never know. You never know. Anyway, we always say if something comes out about a thing or a person that we've spoke of before, we completely. We were just kidding when we said we liked them. And we don't. Yeah, that's right.

And we don't, yeah. That's right. Should we move it along? Let's move it along. Should we move it along to the uh what we reading segment yes what's it called it's called we were reading yeah what we're gonna read i agree yeah nice 10 years of this hell yeah i'm doing the thing what are we reading today what are you doing what am i doing what are you reading today? What are you doing? What am I doing? What are you reading?

Well, I tell you what, we both watched the first episode of Gen V. I'm going to stop you there. I watched the first 27 or so minutes. Well, I'll stop you there. I watched about the same amount of time. Well, I'll stop you there. Go on. I'm loving the synchronicity.

I'll tell you what, we finished each other's podcasts. Yeah. Yeah. We've had independent finish each other's podcasts. Yeah. Yeah. We have independent podcasts. That's right. We stick them together. We record these in separate rooms. We don't even know what the other guy is saying. And by coincidence for the last 10 years,

they've synced up perfectly. Yeah. I think that'll stop me. And I think they will for a while. For a while. Oh, no. Well, that probably went tree. Oh, no. Well, that probably went perfectly. Oh, no.

We're talking at the same time. That probably went perfectly. That probably went perfectly because we're in separate rooms. Oh, yeah. We wouldn't know, would we? So we wouldn't know. I am assuming it went perfectly, as always. I think you mean separate balconies.

Ah, that's true. That's because we were doing a different thing earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, anyway, we both watched some of Gen V because I think I was short on time. I don't know about you. Yeah, I was, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I quite like it. I think it's all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, anyway, we both watched some of Gen V because I think I was short on time. I don't know about you. Yeah, I was, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I quite like it. I think it's all right. Yeah. I haven't finished it yet. I mean, look, cynics would say more of the same, sure. Yeah. I'm still, again, because I'm 27 minutes in, these characters are still like. Yeah.

You said one was bland. Yeah, I did. Wow. And I'll save that. Oh, you're not going to say which one it is? No, I'm going to wait until I watch the three episodes before I cast massive stones. Okay, great.

Maybe that's unfair because it's kind of a character who's supposed to be like. He's supposed to be a golden boy. In fact, his name is literally Golden Boy. Exactly. I like the cast generally. So we've got the premise, of course, is that it is a, you know, in the universe of the boys, a bunch of parents had their children

in utero genetically altered to potentially develop superpowers. And so now they need a place to become superheroes. And by that I mean either fight crime or mostly just be like, become influencers. Yeah, exactly. So there's this university and you know uh you know which is a pretty standard issue but there's a yeah it's it's it's very heavily most of the most of the people there are there to learn how to be like social media savvy yeah and get a lot of instagram followers

and get sponsorships and because that's like a tikt universe. It's like a TikTok house. It's like a TikTok house, exactly right. But we follow a woman who when she developed her powers, which are blood-based, she accidentally killed her parents. So she's been in like a halfway house kind of situation. And now she's like, okay, well, if I get good grades and I make my way up through this thing, I could be, you know, potentially be a superhero, be in the seven. Yeah.

But, of course, then there's boys are like. I don't think with blood powers. They're not going to be loving a blood. No, from a marketing standpoint, are they? No. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, but then there's people, boys, and they're like,

why don't you have a drink? Why don't you go to a party? And she's like, I don't know. But this is a standard thing you do in this sort of show, so I guess I will. And that's where we watched up to. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Exactly.

So I don't know. Maybe they just have a nice night and they go home and nobody notices that they broke curfew. I don't know. It's possible. No way to know. But I like, you know, that main character's good. There's a supporting character and she is like.

The shrinky one? She has the ability to shrink, but she has to do it with bulimia. Yeah. So it's kind of very unpleasant. And she is sort of, she has like some social media presence where she just bulimia. Yeah. So it's kind of very unpleasant. Yeah. And she is sort of a, she has like some social media presence where she just does tiny stuff. Yeah. Like she fights a rat or whatever it is.

Like she boxes this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In a boxing ring. I like her. Yeah, me too. I think she's great. Because she's sort of got, you know, she's sort of got that vibe of like, she, you know, she's kind of fun and, but she's like eager to please,

but she's clearly got like low self-esteem because her power isn't like a – It's not a cool power. It's not a crime-fighting power necessarily kind of thing. She's not invincible or she can shoot fire or whatever. So she's kind of like, where's that going to go? Are people going to take advantage of her and that sort of stuff? And there's other people. There's the golden boy.

There's the golden boy, yeah. Oh, yeah. Played by Patrick Schwarzenegger. That's right. But, yeah, again, we'll see. One show I have also been watching. Oh, Clancy Brown's in it. Oh, Clancy Brown's great.

Does he have superpowers? I don't know. I guess we'll never know. We'll find out. I've been watching New Futurama. Oh, New Turama. Which is a lot like, yes, thank you, which is a lot like old Futurama. Go on.

I think it made the mistake of being like, Zap Brannigan's cancelled. Oh, yeah. Oh, it it's covid and it's like i was gonna say is it current times and fresh like it's always been that way in terms of like you would pick a niche topic of the day but it feels really like this is the cancellation episode this is the code yeah this is the amazon episode and i there's some episodes which don't, they do a Dune episode which is set in like a litter box and, but there's stuff in, the stuff that I like about Future Mummers but it doesn't kind of do that. So when it's not doing that, I'm like, it's fun. It's fun and there's good jokes and I like the cast.

Richard Nixon's head? Is Richard Nixon's head in it? Yeah, Nixon's head comes back at one point. I think there's been ten episodes so far. Is this on Disney Plus? It's on Disney Plus or Star or whatever. I don't know what it's on. But, yeah, it is on Disney or Hulu.

Who cares? I care. Then, yes, it is. Great. It will be. But, no, I didn't finish the last season. Okay. And I was going to, but then I didn't.

They also go back to previous episodes, Jimmy, when Amy and Kif have, like, children and they live in a bond. They're like, we'll come back in 20 years and it's been 20 years. Right, okay. There's some stuff to that. Okay, sure, sure, sure. You just wish there wasn't a cancellation episode and a COVID episode. But they're not even bad.

But it just feels like, I don't know, like you don't. I understand. You know, Zap gets cancelled because he's rude and it's like, okay. Speaking of, I've got to finish Red Dwarf. I've still got like, you know, the most recent couple of seasons. I was just thinking the other day and you've just reminded me. I should probably finish. I liked the movie, the movie that they made more recently.

The Promised Land? Yeah, I didn't mind it at all. All right. Does it still have a laugh track? Yes. Great, I love that. Does it? I don't remember actually.

Anyway, that's our Red Dwarf episode. I'm pretty sure it does, yeah. Yeah, it's our Red Dwarf episode. It's our Red Dwarf episode. We did it, folks. Yet again. it's our Red Dwarf episode. It's our Red Dwarf episode. We did it, folks. Yet again. That's right. What do you got, Mason?

Oh, it's time for Lettuce. Wow. That's right. Already? Yes. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, Mason. Can you believe it?

Can you? I can believe it, yes. Yeah. All right, well, play the theme then. We're doing this for 500 years or however long we've been doing this. It does feel like it. It feels like it. It does feel like it. The classic one was...

Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Blam! This is a letter segment of the show. Is that what we're saying now, Blam? That's what we're doing.

I love that. This is the segment of the show where if you hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter, it's a tweet, I might see it, or weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com if you want to shoot through a Gmail. Shoot through that Gmail. To Nick Mason. That's right. You got an email?

It's an email from Leon. Okay, I'll stop. Who says, hey, hey, hey, Tom Turbo. What? Hey, James and Mason, greetings from Austria. Hello. Love your podcast, but it does make commuting really awkward for me because I always break out into laughter listening to you guys

while I'm in a crowded subway with really serious-looking passengers. I just want to point out that this is not supposed to be a funny show, so I don't know what you would be laughing at. It's that Austrian sense of humour. I don't know. Last week it was the 30th anniversary of an Austrian interactive crime show for kids called Tom Turbo. All right.

The show lasted for 21 seasons and it has more than 400 episodes and the main character is a bicycle called Tom Turbo who solves world-shattering crimes with the help of some random kids and his boss who lives in the zoo of Vienna. Look at this fucking thing. That's what I'm saying. Have you seen it? Yeah, he's added a picture.

Tom Turbo has a really deep voice and 111 gadgets that help him defeat the villains. It's so bizarre and quite lovely at the same time and most people who didn't grow up watching it think that it's just crazy talk. Yeah, it looks like an AI made that. It looks like if you went crazy cartoon children's show character. Yeah.

That's a bicycle maybe. But also it looks like it's made of balloons. Yeah. So his question is is so i wonder if you guys watched any shows that sound like fever dreams when you talk to people about them something that is really specific for a certain age group and or region but is also part of a big collective memory for that demographic i know what you're i know what i'm gonna say lift off i was gonna say mulligrubs uh yeah i don't really know what mulligrubs was about, but I think it was a general, maybe it was like a,

did it have cartoons in it? I don't know. But the point, the thing of Mully Grubbs was there was a character in Mully Grubbs which was they'd clearly taken a person's face and like covered them in blue makeup or a blue head sock or whatever. Yeah. And so their entire face had been deleted from frame except for the eyes and the mouth and the nose, I think.

And then they put a vocoder effect on this person's voice. And so it was just this nightmarish creature that was like, hello, children. You know, the mullet grubs. Well, I know, Mason. Look it up because it's really frightening. I just found a list. I mean, not as frightening to adults.

No. Do you remember Plasmo? It was like a stop motion like claymation space show. Plasmo, I love Plasmo. What else was there? Oh, Johnson and Friends. Yep. That was like Toy Story before Toy Story.

Sure. It was like a kid's room and it was just a fucking nightmare. Oh, that's Australian. That is Australian. I mean, we've mentioned Agro. Oh, yeah. Agro's Cartoon Connection, who was a rude puppet who would always introduce cartoons with a human woman. Yeah.

But was, by all accounts, like, always just grabbing. Just a grabby puppet. It was also made from a bath. Remember this? What is that? Ah! Yeah. That one was called, oh, God, Pig's Breakfast.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess, like. Yeah, Lif one was called, oh, God, Pig's Breakfast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess like these are from an era when they just needed, like there was a children's show and they needed a thing that kids would react to so they were just allowed to go hog wild. These days they wouldn't do that, I don't think. No, no, no, absolutely not. They'd be like, we can't trust local designers to make up something kids would respond to.

Let's have it be Optimus Prime or whatever, you know, because he's a solid gold, you know what I mean? As about this one, I forgot this was Australian. Ah, the bookworm. The book place. Remember the book place? Yeah, vaguely. I knew the TV you had gotten because the book place would come on

at 9 o'clock after all the good cartoons in the morning. And I'd be like, it's time for a worm to read you a book. And I'm like, fuck you. It's interesting he's called Tom Turbo. Yeah. Does Turbo mean the same thing in English? What are they speaking, Austrian? Is it German?

Yeah, Austrian. And some German, I believe. Are they different languages? I mean, I think there is variations, but there's a lot of overlap. Are you guessing? Are you googling it real quick? I am. I've been there.

Yeah? What were they talking? Are they just guessing? Are you guessing? Are you Googling it real quick? I am. Google it real quick. I've been there. Yeah. What were they talking? Were they speaking German? I think it's a, like, German is the official language, but I'm pretty sure there's like. And a language called Austrian? No, there's not like a language. It's like a.

Dialect. No, it's not even a dialect. It's just slightly different. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Well, that's a dialect. That would be a dialect. No, but it's not even.

Interesting. Look, I'm wrong. It's probably just German. Okay. Fuck. Well, I'm going to put Tom Turbo into Google Translate and see what it says. Tom Turbo.

Remember these guys? The Ferals? Yeah, I do remember the Ferals, of course. Yuck. Yep, the literal translation is Tom Turbo. There you go. Into German. There you go.

That's very cool. Oh, boy, is it. Oh, the TV show Amazing. I love that show, man. I just wanted to go on the TV show Amazing and win that Game Boy. I was did by Jamshed. But you didn't, did you? No, because they were all filmed in Sydney or whatever.

I didn't live in Sydney. Why would I? You could have moved. I could have brought my parents to Sydney. No, you could have left your family and moved up. Oh, yeah? You could have left your family and lived in a cardboard box in Sydney and then when you auditioned for Amazing,

they would have been like, what? You'd be like, I left my family. I divorced my family so I could win this Game Boy. No, you'd have to go through your school. You'd go through your school. So you'd have to enroll in a Sydney school or whatever. And you'd have to put your address cardboard box. Believe me, I've thought about this, Mason.

I've thought about this a lot. And there's no real way for me to make this happen, even now. You'd simply purchase. With my immense wealth up here. It's true. You could purchase a Game Boy. That's right. Yeah, I could just do that, couldn't I?

But I want to run the maze. Well, I was going to say, they might have been like, well, young man, what if we just give you a Game Boy that you can use in your cardboard box? You'd be like, no, I'm going to win it. I'm going to win it, James Sherry Amazing. Exactly. You would have said.

I've got a tweet here. I'd love to hear a tweet. From Red Lion Flames. He says, I hope you talk about the new Doctor Who 60th Anniversary trailer on the podcast this week or next week. It looks great. A real return to form. Yeah, so it was a return of David Tennant and Donna Noble.

What's her name? Catherine Heigl. Yes, Catherine Heigl from the Knocked Up franchise. That's right. Not the second movie. This is 40. She's not in that one. She's only in the first one.

What is her name? Catherine Doctor Who. Catherine Doctor Who? Tate. There we go. Love Who. Catherine Doctor Who? Tate. There we go. Love it. Any relation to Andrew Tate, do you think? Yeah.

Okay, cool. She's his mum. Oh, no. I know. Is that true? Yeah, it's true. I didn't know that. Yeah.

Work a bit harder on your kids, Catherine Tate. One of them became Andrew Tate and the other Tate. The other one's bad too. Yeah, they're both bad. Yeah. I think. They're not related though. It's just a coincidence.

Oh, good. They both have that head shape. It's just a coincidence. Oh, good. They both have that head shape. It's just a coincidence. So, no, it does look really good. I will be dipping back into Doctor Who for this. I think it's three specials, isn't it, or three episodes and they. And they're going to reboot with. Not reboot.

They're going to. He's going to regenerate into Shudigatwa. Do you think it's going to be a situation where he's just taken on an old form for whatever reason? I think they'll probably do a, and again, I'm not across Doctor Who at all anymore and haven't been for about 10 years, but I reckon if I had to guess, and I do, I don't have to, but I'm going to. You will.

I'm going to say that by the end of the three episodes, that timeline is undone. Yeah. And so it's back to Jodie Whittaker, and then she regenerates into the new guy. But isn't there footage of you see the new guy and he's wearing the David Tennant suit? Well, it's a trick. Oh.

They've tricked you, haven't they? I feel like they've tricked me. Certainly worked on you, didn't it? Yeah, I don't like that, actually. Yeah. I don't like how they've done that to me. Yeah. And we look like a real fool.

Yeah. Because this will be what happens. That's right. And both of us will remember this. Yeah, and then people will put up YouTube where they'll react to what we're saying here. Like all the big hoof. All the big dogs. All the big dogs on Hootube

will be like, can you believe these two idiots? I mean, one idiot. But James is such a big idiot, we're counting him twice. Oh, wow. Yeah, because he didn't think that would happen. The thing that Mace said would happen that did happen. I don't like this. Yeah, I know. It makes me feel bad. Yeah, we can take this out though. No, I think it's important for me to feel like this.

I think so. For an extended period of time. Yeah, you're finally going to learn. It's humbling me. I don't think you will learn, but it should be where you'll learn. Yeah, it should be, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got another Gmail?

Yeah, here's a Gmail from Joshua. Joshua? It says Joshua Thomas, but it's probably not the Joshua Thomas we're thinking of. No? No. Is it Rob Thomas? It's not Rob Thomas, no. Okay, good.

I literally just, anyway. Hello, gents. Long time weekly whacker to do and proud to be one. After a lovely engagement with cancer, thanks for your podcast for keeping my spirits up during treatment, a mate and I decided to do a trip to Australia from Salt Lake City, Utah to celebrate life, beating cancer and all that jazz. Just about to finish a week in Sydney and we're hitting Melbourne on Monday for a week. Whoa.

James, can you recommend a good kombucha brand to try while out there? Yeah, it's called Liberty Kombucha. Nice. It's the best one. Don't try anything else. Okay, because he said the only brand I've seen in Sydney is Remedy, and it's just okay. Get the fuck out of here.

No, it's bad. Do not drink that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Liberty Kombucha, the black cherry is really good. I find the orange one is good also. Yeah. But, you know, try. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Try any. Mason, as an international party boy, any good recommendations and sights to see in Melbourne? Go to the zoo. Oh, yeah. Go to the National Gallery. I do love the zoo. Pretty good in there.

I went to Healdsville Sanctuary the other day. Go to the National Gallery and have Devon Sheerty at the National Gallery. That's fun. If, in fact, they still do that. Which they might or might not. Maybe go to the show. No, do not go to the show. You haven't been in years.

You haven't been in years. I know. But we get another guy to go and then he'll be like, I had a bad time. We can be like, we knew it. If you want to know more about the show, this coming episode of Carabatter Garbage, The Phantom, there's probably like five minutes

on the show. On the show, going to the show. Specifically. For reasons that will become clear in the video. That's right. But yeah, what else? Cool, just find some cool bars, man. Get a cool bar, man.

That's a good bar. I know, else? Just find some cool bars, man. Get a cool bar, man. That's a good bar. I know. I used to. Probably one of the show. I go to cool bar. Wow. Yeah. Anyway, just Google it.

Google cool bar. That's right. Yeah. Go to Chapel Street, South Yarra. You could. Yeah, you could. Into the jam factory. No, no.

No, don't do that. That's a bad place, actually. Especially if you want jam because they don't do that. They don't actually do that. No, no, no. Don't do that anymore. If they bad place actually. Especially if you want jam because they don't do that anymore. Don't do that anymore if they ever did it. Yeah. Interesting. It's from the Nerd Authorities.

Congratulations on beating cancer away. That's fucking awesome. Hashtag weekly planet pod. We recently started a podcast inspired by you guys. We're currently covering disaster movies. You got any suggestions? Also, any tips, advice for getting a podcast rolling? You guys are the goats of all time.

Well, look, it's been 10 years. Yep. So you think we've learned something. We are a couple of quirked up white boys with the sauce. It's true. We're goaded with the sauce. We've got a bit of swag. And it's interesting that we got much older since we started.

A little bit older. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. But I don't know. I think audio quality is more important. We've talked about this before. Audio quality is important. You can't get away with bad audio quality is more important. We've talked about this before. Audio quality is important. You can't get away with bad audio quality anymore.

No, people will not listen. We got in before you had to have good audio quality. Consistency is the key as well. Yes. Even if you only do one podcast a month, same time every month. Exactly. Because people will otherwise be like, oh, I'm looking forward to that episode of that podcast.

It doesn't come out. They find something else. Play to your strengths. So whatever the dynamic is that you guys have, just lean into it. Whether it be a cool guy and a grub or a grub and a cool guy or two grubs. Two grubs. Two cool guys is illegal, I believe. You can't do that.

That won't work. It doesn't work. Nobody will like that. People will reject that. Yeah, no. It's like that first version of The Matrix that was too perfect. People's minds will be like, so they've got a podcast but they're both cool guys.

I don't like it. We started like that actually. Yeah, that's right. And then we both went grub. Yeah. Because we both made the decision independently to become the grub and we both showed up and we both were the grub. So, you know.

I think pick a structure. It doesn't have to like be like strict. Yeah. But like a format that you can adhere to. So it doesn't have to be strict, but a format that you can adhere to so it doesn't just go nowhere. But if it's news, review a movie while we're reading letters, we'll kill you because that's ours. I get people to review the show.

It's probably important. Call to action. Call to action. Try and do it in person. I don't think that's as important now, but I find that way easier. Especially if you're two grubs because you I find that way easier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially if you're too grubs because you get used to the smell. Yeah, exactly, yeah.

Also, I know I said this earlier, but really lean into like it being your voice because I will listen to anything if I like the person. Oh, yeah. And it could be like an amazing concept, but if I'm like, this guy sucks, I will not. So if you suck, if you're out there and you suck yeah too bad too bad yeah but that's on you that's right yeah anything else don't get too many people don't have like six people it's too many yeah unless you're like auntie donna yeah but presumably you're not so yeah yeah if this is any member of auntie donna under under a pseudonym i think you've got it

it's fine yeah you're gonna figure it out also like, I know I run pretty long, but like it doesn't have to be. That's true. It can be 40 minutes or whatever. Make it as long. And edit it. And I don't mean like you don't have to like chop and change and move everything around. I just mean just tighten it up.

Yeah. Like this is, Collings tightens this up. It's just like make the gap slightly smaller. Yeah. You know what I mean? Tweak the audio so the levels are, again, these are things that Collings does better than I can do. Have a guy go, yep, after every sentence.

Like add that in so it makes it sound like the guy's listening. Put clips on. Yep. Yep. Put clips on TikTok. Yep. Because you can actually get boosted there. That's true.

Because they'll promote. They just promote really well for some reason. It's like how the algorithm works there. That's right. Anything else? Cash prizes. Cash prizes. That's a big one.

Yeah. Oh, don't overcommit to shit. Don't be like that. And don right. Anything else? Cash prizes. Cash prizes. That's a big one. Yeah. Oh, don't overcommit to shit. Don't be like that. Like cash prizes. And don't be like, we're going to do Patreon. We're going to do this, this, this, this, and this. It's too hard. Just if you're going to do that, keep it simple.

Stupid. Yeah. Keep it. Stupid. Yeah. Make it achievable to you. Stupid. Make it stupid.

Make it stupid. Anything else? That's everything, I think. Yeah. And it just might not work. Or it might. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Sometimes it stupid. Make it stupid. Anything else? That's everything, I think. Yeah. And it just might not work. Or it might. I don't know. I don't know.

Sometimes it does. Get really lucky. Yeah. Get really lucky is a big one, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Got another email? I got one more email.

This is from John. John! Hey, guys. James always says the wonderful story of Henry Sugar is his favorite Roald Dahl story. Is that true? It is true, yeah. And I wanted to let you know, if you didn't already, that Wes Anderson's short film adaptation has just been released on Netflix and over the next three days three more Wes Anderson adaptations

of Roald Dahl short stories will be released as well. I will be watching that. I haven't had the chance because I've got to finish that episode of GNV. Also, I've got four episodes of Loki. I've got to tell you this. What? But I think I'm just not going to. Let's watch them now.

Do you want to? On the podcast. No, we can go. We'll put the audio through the speakers. And we can actually put the video on the YouTube. Yeah, this is great. When's that out? A couple of, 4th of October or something like that?

Yeah, something like that. I think I'm not going to. Okay, great. If you want them, you can have them. But I'm not going to. No, because you're allowed to. That's true. Yeah, no, that is true.

It's not illegal, basically. Nice. Nice, gotcha. I hear you. He says, as a huge Wes Anderson fan, this has made me very happy, and I hope you enjoy them all as much as I will. I haven't watched Asteroid City yet. Me neither.

But it's on streaming. You can buy it. So I'm going to buy it. Buy it? I'm going to buy it. Oh, God. It's on streaming, but it's not available on Blu-ray for, like, another two weeks.

Oh, God. Yeah, exactly. Do you have a big wall of Blu-ray? No, I have some Blu-ray. That's interesting. I have a scattered amount of Blu-ray. I've got your Blu-ray of another round, which I still haven't watched. But I will.

I know, Mason. I'm watching Gen B. Right, watch it now. I'll watch Loki, and you can watch that. We'll upload them both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can pretend he's the magician guy. I could do that, couldn't I?

I was from Parker Milken, who's Millie Can. There we go. Who says, this is for you. Hashtag weekly planet pod. Any thoughts on the trackless tram? Now, this is for you, hashtag weeklyplanetpod, any thoughts on the trackless tram? Now, this is a car, I assume, or a bus? Yeah, in a way, I think, yeah. What are we talking about?

I think they have them in Europe. But what's the point of it then? I don't know. It's a bus, right? Sounds like a bus. Is it just like a low bus? Yes. Would it be easier or harder?

I feel like it'd be harder, right? I think it'd be harder. Because you'd have to steer. You don't steer. You don't do anything, basically. Because you'd have to steer. You don't steer. You don't do anything, basically. I do heaps of stuff. You don't. I do heaps of stuff.

Someone sit behind Mason and just do a trick. Just note down all the things that I do. Yeah. It'll be heaps of stuff. What I would do is just write, at the start of the journey, just write heaps of stuff in a checkbox, and at the end just check it off. Yeah, you go.

You'll be correct. You go with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I understand a lot of it is spatial awareness also, isn't it? That's right. We always look and can't be killing nobody on the road. Yeah, that's exactly right. We haven't yet as far as I'm aware.

So, yeah. Cool. Anything else? I'm killing them with kindness, James. Are you? Yeah. Or you're like, get off the road, you fucking idiot. Exactly.

Yeah. That's kind though as opposed to killing somebody. I agree. Yeah. All right, all right. Anyway, that's the whole show, folks. Thank you so much for listening. We appreciate it very much from the bottom of our grubby little hearts.

Oh, yes. Folks, you can. Wait. You can? You can. If I could leave you with anything, some advice, it would be you can. You can. If you thought you couldn't, you can.

Except for that guy about the podcast. I don't think you can. You could. Okay. No? I think we gave him too much advice. Okay. Yeah.

That was only a VMO. That's right. Anyway, thank you, folks, for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that's how we get some new listeners. And another way is if you left a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice, just do it in app there, and James will read it out if it's five stars.

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And this is from JD Lopez. That'd be a good slogan for us, though. The weekly planet, it's PN. It's PN. We can't stop it. And it's clear P, which you know means it's hydrated. Love of these Aussie boys. As a Mexican-American, I was surprised to discover how much I enjoyed this podcast.

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Still five star, whatever. Yeah. I'll take it. I was going to say that review was muy caliente. Now I won't. No? No. Good.

I'll say it's no mas. I'll say it's no mas. I'll say it's buenos dias. That's pretty good. That is good. Which is bad, depending how you say it. Yeah, yeah. What do they speak there? Austrian?

Yeah. Anyway, keep going. What are you doing? Oh, yeah, folks. If you want to get into contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's pretty much where you can go. That's true. You can also go to the Planet Broadcasting Facebook group.

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Next week, what's out? Let me check. Saw? We could watch Saw. We could do Saw. Apparently it's quite good. Some what's out? Let me check. Saw? We could watch Saw. Apparently it's quite good. Some people are saying it's the best. The best? Yeah. I'll tell you what's the best. In the meantime, thank you to the Brute and the Basilisk and Rackham for all the musical themes.

And go to tpublic.com, search for the Weekly Planet. Maybe you'll find a t-shirt or a mug or something. Coming soon. Here we go. I should have done this. Oh, Expendables? We could watch Expendables. I don't want to watch that. Exorcist Believer. We could do that.

We could. I'm going to check the Hoyts website. That's what I'm on right now. Taylor Swift. Talk about Taylor Swift. The Heiress Tour. Oh. Oh, Killers of the Flour.

Oh, no, it's not to the 19th. Taylor Swift's not out for a while, actually. Equalizer 3. Haunting in Venice. Yeah, I didn't see the second one. Okay. I don't think you have to. There's no continuity.

I'm sorry. I won't see the second one or the third one. Oh, wow. That's what I meant to say. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Cool.

Sound of Freedom? I do want to watch the Sound of Freedom. Well, watch it on your own. Haunted Mansion? In a mere month and plus, it'll be Halloween, so we could watch it in advance of that. The perfect opportunity to watch The Haunted Mansion. Oh, Gran Turismo based on a true story is still out.

Oh, very good. Well, well, well, well, well. I already saw that though. Yeah, well. Anything else? No, we'll figure something out. That's awesome. That's another podcasting tip.

Figure out your next episode on the air. Yeah, definitely. Why not? Why not, hey? Who's going to stop us? That's the magic of podcasting. Anyway, we'll talk about some. Probably Gen V, definitely. Why not? Why not, hey? Who's going to stop us? That's the magic of podcasting. Anyway, we'll talk about some. Probably Gen V as well.

Who knows? Oh, you know what we have to do this week? You have to finish the show because we've got a little video. Maybe you have a shot, got a bunch of Star Wars. Great, I love that. If you could.

Great. All right, thanks, everyone. Okay, grab that Gemmy, guys. Bye. See you soon. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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