The Weekly Planet - 504 The Marvels & The End of the Actors Strike!

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

It's that time of year again for the third time, a new MCU entry. This time, The Marvels, which is proving to be one of the biggest box office disasters for Disney and Marvel. We review that plus we talk the end of the actors strike, Warner Brothers Batgirls another movie, Superman Legacy gets a release date, a bunch of delays for the MCU including Deadpool and Blade, Kevin Feige heading over the Star Wars, trailers for Avatar: The Last Airbender and Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, Zelda is getting a live action adaptation and more! Thanks for listeningWe did a Five Nights at Freddy's let's play video! You can check that out plus heaps of other exclusive bonus shows, more let's plays, early access and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 a month at bigsandwich.coPlease be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:00 The Actors Strike is Over!08:55 Warner Bros. Batgirl Another Movie14:04 Superman Legacy Release Date Confirmed15:00 New Marvel Delays and Release Dates19:48 Kevin Feige Star Wars Takeover Rumour23:48 Avatar the Last Airbender Netflix Trailer26:33 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire Trailer31:49 Zelda Live Action Movie Confirmed35:31 Jeremy Allen White's "Marvel-y" Comments37:53 The Marvels Review with Minor Spoilers (big spoilers start 54:37 to 01:11:58)01:11:58 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:14:46 Loki Season Two Big Spoiler Review01:21:12 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me is always my co-host, but we're not brothers, Nick Mason. You've said that, and I think that is going to cause people to ask more questions. Why? No, I'm just clarifying. If anybody's listening for the first time and they thought that we were brothers, and they just know that we're not brothers. We're not blood related.

We're not brothers in the sense that we get along really well. Oh, no. We're not even bros? We're not bros. Are we in any way related to. Oh, no. We're not even bros? We're not bros. Are we any way related to bros? Yes, we're both big fans of bros. Great. Yeah.

If that's okay with you. What a tremendous start to this podcast. Well, I think we are literally brothers. And who are you going to believe? Yeah. Yeah. It's one of those situations where like, who is it? Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson might be brothers, but they're not going to check. Yeah. It's one of those situations where like, who is it? Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson might be brothers,

but they're not going to check. Yeah. It's one of those situations. Absolutely. It's Schrodinger's cat, but we might be brothers. That's right. Yeah. Sure.

Excellent. What a terrific start. I agree. This week we're going to be talking about the Marvels. If you do want to skip to that, Collings who edits this, he leaves time codes below. But we've got a bunch of stuff to get to in the news before that. Not the regular news.

This is movie like media news. just so people know, yeah. What have we got here? We've got a particular, I think we've got a particular chemistry that could only really be evident in two brothers, two men who are literally brothers. I don't think so. I think this could be replicated easily by anybody. Oh, yeah?

Yeah, definitely. AI could do it? Yep, yes. Maybe that's what's happening right now. Could be. Yeah. Anyway, we're going to talk about the Yes. Maybe that's what's happening right now. Could be. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we're going to talk about the end of the actor's strike.

Huzzah! We're going to be talking about what is going on with Warner Brothers cancelling another big movie. What is going on? What is going on? We've got a release date for Superman Legacy. We've got Bob Iger talking about Marvel and how maybe things aren't very good at the moment. Oh, yeah. How to get that impression, Bob Iger.

We've got a big-time rumor with Kevin Feige moving over to Star Wars. We've got a bunch of MCU delays. Big shift around. We've also got trailers for Avatar, The Last Airbender, and Ghostbusters, Frozen, Boring City. Then we've got... Nah, we'll talk about it. No, I think this is a better segment.

This isn't just look at a trailer. This is James' opinion on the Ghostbusters franchise. That it sucks. Whoa. That it largely sucks. Wow. It's not even that it sucks. I hate everybody who likes it.

Yeah. That's probably more accurate. Even your brother? Yes. So we're going to talk. Zelda's getting it. You're going to get yourself in hot water, but that's perfect because it's a frozen empire. Very true. You can throw out that frozen empire. You could. With all that hot water you're going to talk. Zelda's getting it. You're going to get yourself in hot water, but that's perfect because it's a frozen empire.

Very true. You can throw out that frozen empire. You could. With all that hot water you're going to get into. No, you don't want to throw hot water straight on a frozen empire because you'll actually break it. You'll crack it like a windscreen. Okay.

Well, then I'll add some tepid opinions. I would love that. Yeah. So Zelda's getting a movie apparently, and Jeremy Allen White doing a comic book movie maybe? I think definitely not because he burned all his bridges. He did, didn't he? We'll talk about that.

Anyways, this is by THR. After a grueling 118 days on strike, so this happened like the week before Barbie and Oppenheimer came out, SAG-AFTRA has officially reached a tentative agreement on a three-year contract with studios, a move that is heralding the end of the 2023 Actors' Strike. Now apparently a big sticking point for this was the studios wanted uh we don't have all the details as of yet at time of recording that

will slowly trickle out over the next few days and weeks that's right the big sticking point was the studio wanted to do a bunch of ai stuff yes they were saying um listen we want to scan people for free and use them for free forever yeah and, yeah, yeah. And actors were like, we'd rather you didn't. And they said, well, but we want to though. Yeah, it's getting too difficult to get a bunch of people in a room and have them stand around. What if we want to change the number of people in a room? Exactly.

We'd have to get more of you in or take some of you out and then film it again. I think eventually they'll get to the point where they can just AI generate random people. That's probably how they're going to get around this at some point. But this is a really good move, especially because they're talking about like resurrecting dead actors without family's permissions, which may have happened in The Flash recently.

We don't know that. We don't know that. Because didn't George Reeve like have no surviving family? As far as I know, yeah. So Warner Brothers just own him, do they? Yep, they own him. So if you don't have any family, the studio can keep you. Yeah, if you're in the public interest and you don't have any family,

Warner Brothers will just be like, we'll have this. Yeah, that's ours. You're ours. Yeah. But you're in good hands because we're Warner Brothers. God. Yeah, so this is great news, really, like in general. And I know like as part of this, and we haven't really touched on it,

but a lot of businesses like in the movie industry have suffered greatly because of this, like production studios and like special effects houses and all of these different things. Some of them have been shuttered because of the lack of work. Craft services, et cetera. But I think people realise this, but this is the studio's fault. This isn't like the actors being like, you know, making this happen. I'd like a third mansion, please.

Yeah, exactly. It was they, you know, like anybody, they're entitled to make money and a livable wage and what they were producing. And as a lot of, you know, a lot of people on the picket line were saying, it isn't about, you know, we all focus on the big names and the A-list celebrities and stuff like that.

They, you know, I'm sure some of them want more money, but a lot of them were striking for the people who were at the bottom kind of thing. And, you know, it's... Which is most actors. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we've talked, you know, because 99% of the people in a movie are the, you know, the little guys.

And a lot of people started out as background extras. Ben Affleck, Matt Damon talking about. Yeah, they got a line and then they got another line and then somebody saw them. And they did a crypto ad. Exactly. That's right. Exactly right. Which I love, by the way.

Yeah. No, no, no, James. He did that Bourne sequel where there was an app. Oh, yeah. It was taking over the world or something. That's right. And then he did the crypto ad. It was Facebook but evil?

Yeah, Facebook but evil. But yeah, but if they go, well, we need some background. We're going to get a comment that says Facebook is evil. That's the joke. No, I think it's cool. Okay, well, I know you think it's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why you're no brother of mine, but go on.

I was going to say, but if they're AI generating all their background extras, then who's going to get the line? Background extras that are AI guys? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, as we've talked about, I don't think places like Warner Brothers and Disney want stars anymore. No.

Because they have to pay stars and stars have demands. They want brands that they can cycle actors through, basically. Well, not even actors as well, just like Luke Skywalker now. Exactly. Whoever's Luke Skywalker now, whatever amalgamation of men and technology. Dead men and technology, yes. Put that together. Yeah.

Anyway, Vi Variety, Christopher Nolan had this to say about the whole thing. He said, part of the craziness with the Labor negotiations. He flung his scarf over his shoulder. Thank you. Part of the craziness with the Labor negotiations this summer has been the studio. Labor negotiations. Has been the studio sitting there going, well, we can't pay you because we don't have enough money, to which the answer is, well, you don't have enough money

because you're not managing your business correctly, which also I don't think is, I mean, they're not managing their business correctly. They do have enough money. I just want to clarify that. You're not getting the same amount of money for your product that you were before. The shift to streaming has disrupted the entire industry and created problems for everybody.

And I think that's absolutely right. And we're seeing that because we're seeing with subscription services as well, like they're collapsing or combining or like Warner Brothers. Or charging us more. Or charging more for less content. Like Warner Brothers recently put all this Zack Snyder and DC movies onto Netflix, you know because basically it acts as an advertisement for whatever upcoming movies and streaming services they have. And Disney are now moving some properties over there, but not going to be the mainline stuff.

It's more just like, I don't know, do you want fucking Willow? Yeah, you can have it. Is somebody getting Willow? I don't know. Somebody should probably get Willow, the TV series. So, yeah. I mean, we're probably going to come back to this in three years. Like, there's a very good chance this will all happen again. No, absolutely. It'll all kick off in 2026. Well, yeah, I mean, that is probably going to come back to this in three years. Like, there's a very good chance this will all happen again.

No, absolutely. It'll all kick off in 2026. Well, yeah, I mean, that is the nature of it, isn't it? They'll attempt to sneak all this stuff in next time. Technology will change and you'll need to have new rules and regulations. Because a year ago, like, this AI stuff was, like, not really a big deal. Yeah, and I've heard from reputable sources that in the next three years they're finally going to get a working prototype for Smell-O-Vision.

Oh, my God. And what if, you know, Warner Brothers just takes your stink? Your unique stink. My stink. Yeah, your stink. I love my stink. That's right. Nobody else loves it.

Not everybody hates it. Everybody hates it, but they're going to use it to clear people out of the movie theatre after the, you know. Surly teens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To shuffle them into the foyer. That's right. Oh, my goodness.

Oh, God. What are we doing, mate? Mr. Sunday's eau de toilette. I just want to clarify, I don't smell like a toilet, mate. Sometimes you smell like a toilet. I smell like a normal man who fell in the toilet. But somehow your entire body went in the toilet. Well, I went to get out and I slipped and I went upside down in the other end, yeah.

Anyway, this is why I THR. So you probably heard about this movie, but Warner Brothers. I don't know. Just listen. Just listen, Mason. How would I know, James? Use that brotherly intuition that we have or don't have. Can't remember.

So there was a John Cena live action animation hybrid. There is a movie at Warner Brothers that they made. It's called Coyote vs. Acme and it's based on Ian Fraser's Coyote v. Acme, a humor article published in the New Yorker in 1990, which is basically Wile E. Coyote taking legal action against Acme because all of the gadgets

he bought to trap the roadrunner backfired and he got hit by a giant fly swat and whatever. And they just sent back an email that says user issue. Skill issue. Skill issue. Skill issue, yeah. User error.

Get good. So this was greenlit as a HBO film and it was also considered as a theatrical release. The cost of it was $60 million to $80 million. James Gunn, because he's a big fan of the Looney Tunes and all of that. He was. Yeah, James Gunn produced the feature and he worked on the story of this. So this is James Gunn who's currently running the DCU for Warner Brothers.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a big hand in this movie. And starring John Cena. John Cena. Yeah. Anyways, it's no. They're doing the Batgirl again. They Batgirled it.

They are. I hope that becomes the general term for it. They Batgirled it. They're just, yeah, just writing off for tax reasons because they get $30 million back or something like that. Yep, $ because they get $30 million back or something like that? Yep, $30 million. So apparently they're going to save on marketing costs so if this was to go out to cinemas or streaming,

it would cost $30 to $50 million in marketing. And then if they never release it, then they can have $30 million. Yeah, I've never released it. Give me $30 million. Yeah, I've never released it. Give me $30 million. Just like completely creatively bankrupt, artless ghouls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, the idea that you get a household name in John Cena who's in it.

Yeah. It's a recognisable property. Apparently it looks like the crew released a reel of like various sort of stunts in progress, like a lot of live action stuff. It looked really good. The guy who did the score released is like, well, you'll never hear any of this, so here's some of the score that I did for this movie.

And again, produced and co-written by James Gunn, who's got the ear of David Zaslav presumably, and even then it's not coming out. Yeah. Which, again, it's going to cause people to go, if anybody has a choice, they're just not going to work with Warner Brothers. Yeah, exactly. Because why would you?

I mean, Christopher Nolan's talking about going back to Warner Brothers, but that's why he left for like- Well, not after the way they treat his precious lunatic tunes. That's true. My goodness. Yeah, so the director of this, Dave Greene, he had this to say, for three years I was lucky, three years, I was lucky enough to make a movie about Wile E. Coyote, the most persistent, passionate, and resilient director of this, Dave Greeney, had this to say. For three years, I was lucky. Three years. I was lucky enough to make a movie about Wiley Coyote,

the most persistent, passionate, and resilient character of all time. I was surrounded by a brilliant team who poured their souls into this project for years. We're all determined to honour the legacies of these historic characters and actually get them right. Along for the ride, we embraced the test audiences who rewarded us with fantastic scores. I'm beyond proud of the final product and beyond devastated

by Warner Brothers' decision, but in the spirit of Wile E. Coyote, resilience and persistence win the day. So, yeah, the other thing is apparently this tested incredibly well. Yeah. Like because they're showing it to people because it's mostly finished. Like it is a movie that they filmed and have scored and did most of the special effects and animation for. And the director says there as well,

this is the one where he finally kills the roadrunner. And don't you all want to see that? Yes. Yeah. Yes. And he does it just with a spade. He beats his head in with a spade. I love that, Mason.

Yeah, pretty cool, right? So here's one director who spoke about this, but there's a bunch of people who talked about, who have seen this. Brian Duffield, who directed recently No One Will Save You. Yeah, we talked about that one. Which went through at Walt Disney+. I've seen this movie and it's excellent.

It also tested in the high 90s repeatedly. It also had interested buyers. The people working at Warner Brothers are anti-art and I hope multiple anvils drop on their heads. Nice. The other thing is it's really weird that like there is a good chance, and you never know with movies obviously, there's a good chance that this could have done very well.

Yeah. And I just like the idea to, they're still going to lose money on it. They're still losing money on this regardless, but they had the opportunity to not do that and took this. A lot of people have said this, and I think there is some merit to it. They've said, well, if the taxpayer is paying for this, if the taxpayer is giving Warner Brothers money for this, it should just go into the public domain.

Isn't that insane that that is the state of the world where it's like, well, we're not going to release this. I'm going to take $30 million from people. But it's okay because David Zaslav, he's getting rich off this. I mean, he was rich. He's getting richer. Yeah, and I think that's important that an already rich man gets rich by destroying other people's art forever, locking it away, deleting it, whatever it is.

I think that's cool. God, I mean, I know people have said this, but could someone please like this? That would be incredible. That would be really good. Yeah, I would love that. Also, Warner Brothers have like a Looney Tunes animation coming out movie. They've got a Daffy and Porky Pig movie or some shit coming out.

So it's weird that like this is the one that they're cancelling. Yeah. Because this is what you think would be the bigger one, right? It's got John Cena in it. It's got John Cena. So there you go. Fun things happening every day, Mason. Love that.

Yeah. Very, very good. Yeah, very good. Well, here's something that is good, I guess. Superman Legacy has a confirmed release date of July 11th, 2025. Well, I'm not going to believe it until I see it, that release date within the Superman font on a blue background. Don't look online, Mason.

You're going to look like a right fool. But if everybody could tweet at Mason that image, that would be terrific. Yeah, yeah, yeah, tag me in it. If it exists, which it doesn't. You idiots. You'll never find it. What's that, a year and a half?

A bit more than a year and a half away? So that's something that he's obviously, like a lot of the casting and that happened prior to the actor's strike and like the writing of it was, like he was well ahead on that for quite a while. So that one is one of the few movies that it's so far out, not that far out, but it's so far out where it's like they can, like there's enough room to like to make that release date. I think they were talking about filming it in January last time I heard.

So yeah, that would make sense to me, Mason. Now, THR, they spoke to Bob Iger, and Bob Iger said, there's been a drop in quality. Was the um there? Yeah. Really? Oh! We ambushed him outside his house.

Oh! So he said, in addition. You could see him deciding whether to hit his panic button or to answer the question. He went, ah. At the time the pandemic hit, we were leaning into the huge increase of how much we were making, and I've always felt that quality can be actually a negative when it comes to quantity.

Do you mean the other way around? Yes. Quantity, so it can be actually a negative when it comes to quantity. I don't feel like he thought that at all. I think he thinks that now. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's true, all. I think he thinks that now. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's true, yeah. I think, but I mean, he's...

He was retired for some of this, I should point out, for a couple of years. But yeah, and he said, I think that's exactly what happened. We lost some focus. So apparently, yeah, the idea is, and we're going to be talking about some release dates in a minute, but that they're pulling back on a bunch of MCU stuff. I absolutely think, though, and we've talked about this before,

but I absolutely think that he went, oh, so you made Endgame and it made a billion dollars. Yeah. Why can't you just release three of those in a year? Yeah, exactly. And then we'd make $3 billion. Yeah, think about it. Idiots.

Idiots, yeah. Just churn them out, who cares? If you don't, you're fired, by the way. Exactly. They'll fire you all. Yeah. Because infinite growth. Infinite growth, exactly.

And let's talk about the MCU, Mason, because there's been a bunch of shifts happening. So Deadpool 3. Shift happens. That's right. Which is resuming production. It's moving from May 3, 2024 to July 26, 2024. Okay.

Now, originally, I think the idea was that Captain America 4 was going to move up to that date, but Captain America 4 is now being delayed quite a long time from July 26, 2024 to February 14, 2025. Okay. So that means we're only getting one MCU movie next year, and that's Deadpool 3. Deadpool 3, right.

Yeah. Thunderbolts also moves from December 20, 2024 to July 25, 2025. Blade gets a release date. No, it doesn't. It's not real. It's not a real movie. 25th, 2025. Blade gets a release date. No, it doesn't. It's not real. It's not a real movie. September 7th, 2025. And I'm sneaking this in here, Mason.

Yes. I know you're worried about there not being enough MCU movies, but don't worry. The Spum has got you. The Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel movies. Venom 3 gets a release date of July 12th. Sorry, moved from July 12th of next year to November 8th. Venom fights another bunch of gooey guys.

That's right. The gooeyest guys we've yet seen. Oh, my God. We've seen some pretty gooey guys. That's right. So via the Hot Mike podcast, they talked about specifically Captain America 4, and they said it didn't test well and extensive reshoots are planned.

They're going to have to un-retire Harrison Ford or whatever he's doing to get him back to be the Red Hulk or whatever the thing is that he's doing in that movie. You kind of have to nail new Captain America, you know. You can't like – remember new Captain America the show, you know, when he had that speech where he was like, everybody be better politicians. That's right.

Just vague. Everybody stick to the middle. That's where all the action is. What they did was bad, but what you're doing is also bad, I think. I think. Yeah. I think both of you guys should learn to get along. Don't you love how a lot of Marvel properties just revolve around a refugee crisis

and how maybe refugees need to learn a lesson also? I do love that. My goodness. So there you also. I do love that. My goodness. So there you go. How do you feel? I mean, we've been talking about also how maybe they should delay some MCU stuff. Sorry, maybe there should be a gap because it's a glut.

It is a glut, yes. And this, I think, could end up being a good thing, having a break and also maybe making good movies. Maybe, yeah. I think that could be a good thing. I think so, yeah. I mean, obviously the quality of also maybe making good movies. Maybe, yeah. I think that could be a good thing. I think so, yeah. I mean, obviously the quality of the movies depend on, you know. But everybody seems to be, like, people want to see Deadpool 3.

I think that one. Yeah, that's true, yeah. Has a fair bit of hype around it. How do you feel about the people who are saying, well, after superhero movies the next big thing is probably going to be video game movies because of FNAF? Is FNAF doing well in subsequent weeks? It didn't because people realised it was on streaming.

Yeah, that'll do it. But it did initially. Yeah, it did. It's still done very, very well. Yeah, you might be right, but I think also, like, it could shift to video game movies because people put effort into them. Sure. Like, it could be any.

For now. For now, yeah. It could be anything if you apply yourself and put like a good creative team behind it, right? I guess. You know, like you're making. Could we churn it out though? Yeah, I mean you can definitely churn it out. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

You can definitely churn it out. Yeah, definitely. Because, I mean, if you can do one movie like you said like that, you want to do five in a year. Five billion dollar movies. Five billion dollars. That's five billion dollars. And even better, what if they made two.

That's free money basically. That's free money basically. You're basically making money. What if they made two billion each as well? You've got to think about that. That's $5 billion. And even better, what if they made two billion? That's free money, basically. That's free money, basically. You're basically making money. What if they made two billion each as well? You've got to think about that. That's true. I mean, plan for the best, expect the best. Yeah, that's right.

That's what I always say. And fire anybody who doesn't immediately give you the best. That's right, yeah. This is why my time to shine, hello. I don't know if they're legit. I know. That's why I wanted to talk about this, though. But you know what?

I don't care. I love rumors. I love conjecture. I love lies. That's why we're here. Are this, though. But you know what? I don't care. I love rumors. I love conjecture. I love lies. That's why we're here. Are you my time to shine hello? Maybe. Interesting.

You would know if you were really my brother, which you're not. I wouldn't think you'd tell any of your brothers that. I think both of your brothers would be like, I don't know what that is. What do you mean? You might be right. So Kevin Feige is thinking about leaving Marvel after Secret Wars and taking over Star Wars. I mean, maybe.

Like, it's possible. I guess, sure. Why wouldn't he, I guess? Why wouldn't he? Because he could just retire. He's not going to retire. I mean, are we going to retire? Yeah.

All right. After Secret Wars? Yeah, after Secret Wars. All right, let's do it. No, I don't want to. I want to see what comes next. Maybe we retire after Kang Dynasty and we just don't come back to Secret Wars. Don't come to Secret Wars, John.

Do you reckon they're going to kick Kang Dynasty? We'll talk about it. Do you watch Loki? Did you finish Loki? I'm two behind, but I don't care if you spoil it. Okay, I will. We'll spoil it later. We'll spoil it later.

Yeah, I've got two left. I watched some yesterday and I'm like, oh, I got up to four and then I'm like, I'm going to bed. Yeah, fair enough. Because that's just how compelling the Marvel narrative is these days. We'll talk about it in what we're reading. Oh, we could talk about it now, I guess. But do you think they're going to actually make a movie called Kang Dynasty?

Or will it be, as we've talked about, another guy dynasty? Oh, yeah. A big threat is happening, dynasty. I mean, they could change it. They've changed titles, you know. Yeah. It could be a very similar plot line. And put in a different guy.

Put in a different guy. Yeah. Doom Dynasty. Doom Man. Duck Dynasty. Bring back a different guy. Yeah. Doom Dynasty. Doom Man. Duck Dynasty. Bring back Howard the Duck. Oh my god. So no, I think no. I don't think they're going to make that

or call it that at the very least. Yeah, right. They could recast, but I mean, after what happened to Loki and we talk about it, I just don't think that's going to happen. Okay. We'll see. We'll see, Mason. Anyway, Kevin. Is the last episode of Loki just someone admitting to all their crimes

in real life? Is that why you're saying this? Yeah, exactly. What do you think, though, Kevin Feige Star Wars? Should he do it? Would he do it? Could he do it? Is he doing it?

Would he do a good job? I mean, I guess my question would be the Disney board of directors or the Disney shareholders or whatever, are they willing to look at his entire track record and go, look at him, how he built up an entire universe from day one to now? Or are they just going to go, yeah, but his last couple didn't make a lot of money so he's out? Yeah, maybe.

Because that feels like the more realistic result there. They'll just go, oh, well, you haven't maintained $5 billion a year for the last 10 years. But I also think that like – We'll get somebody else who can definitely do that. Yeah. I also think that like if they were smart,

they would realize that a lot of that is probably not his fault. Yeah, sure. Like he can't – But bearing this in mind, they're not smart. Yeah, exactly. You know, because you need to recognize this. They just happen to have a lot of money.

When there's five movies a year and 400 episodes or whatever of Marvel television, then yeah, this is going to happen. But that's what they

want for Star Wars. They want five movies a year and 100 episodes. I think they should pull back after all this whatever they're doing with Star Wars,

stop making Star Wars TV for a little bit. Just go back to movies. What's the last thing on the ticket for Star Wars TV currently? Is it more Mandalorian? There's Andor 2.

I am. The skeleton crew or key or something. Okay. The Jude Law one. It's Skeleton's Isle of Phone. Yes. With Jude Law. There's a bunch of like Ahsoka and Mandalorian stuff

that leads up to that movie. Okay. I don't know which series they're doing in particular. Okay. Maybe another Boba Fett. I doubt it. But maybe, yeah. Maybe a Timothy Olsen series.

I just want Andor. I don't care about anything else. I want a second season of Andor that's even better than the first season of Andor. And I'll be mad if it's not. Well, then you're going to have to go out and you're going to have to get everyone you know who isn't currently subscribed to Disney Plus,

you're going to get them to promise to subscribe for Andor. In writing? Or I get a video? Both would be ideal. Okay. Yeah, cool. And then maybe they'll make more Andor. I will do that.

Okay, great. Let's talk about this. Trailers ahoy. First we're going to talk about is Netflix's Avatar The Last Airbender, which is the second live-action adaptation of Avatar The Last Airbender. What? This one obviously has people going, wow, things can be good. This looks just like the cartoon but real.

But real, but real life. What if cartoon but real life? Here it is. And off the success of, like, they've had some pretty successful anime adaptations. I know this isn't technically the anime. Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. Shut up!

Shut up. All of you, shut up. All of you, shut up. All the voices, shut up. But, you know, because we had, what was it recently? The Gumby guy doing a big stretch. Sure. One piece. Yeah, pirate time.

And so, yeah, it looks very faithful. I've watched the entire series and it's- Well, I've watched even more. No, you haven't. I watched it a couple of years ago and it's fucking terrific. It's so good. And we also did record a Caravan of Garbage for the movie like two years ago, which we haven't released, which we will release when this movie comes out,

show comes out, whatever it is. Okay. Don't you think? And that's a weekly Planet guarantee. Right? Yep. I don't know. I don't even know where it is.

Do you know where it is? I hope so. Okay. Because I'm not watching the movie again. I know. I remember not liking it. What about if we did this? Go on.

Listen to me. Yes. Listen. Go on. We watch movie again. I know. I remember not liking it. What about if we did this? Go on. Listen to me. Yes. Listen. Go on. We watch it again. We record a second one. We do two weeks of it. I love that.

We'll see how they match up. Yeah. We'll see if we do all the same jokes. That'd be fun. Should we do that? No. Or is that really stupid? That's really stupid.

I feel like it could be good. But it's just that podcast, the worst idea of all time. We don't commit to it for a year. This is twice. So we should commit to it for a year? I couldn't. No. I can't commit to anything for a year.

So what are we doing? I like to have a band art. Yeah, it looks good. What do you think? Looks good. Got some familiar faces. Does it? No, no, no.

They've cast, not everyone's like a white guy. Oh, great. Which is good, you know? Yeah. I don't know what else to say about this other than it's coming out in February maybe. It's pretty good. That might not even be true. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know. I don't know nothing. What do you know? I don't know nothing, but I know it looked better than the movie they did. Yes. I think they should do a, if they're going this way, I think they should do a live action TV version of Dragon Ball Evolution. Oh. Yeah. Okay. The original TV version of Dragon Ball Evolution. Oh.

Yeah. Okay. The original one? The one we watched. Oh, that one. Oh, yeah. That's a fucking terrific one. The one where they do karate around a car or whatever. I hated that.

That made me feel bad. Thinking about that makes me feel bad. Well, what if it was a better version but on Netflix and it's a TV series? Some things just shouldn't. I know they're talking about doing like they're probably going to do a live-action Invincible. Yep. Just don't. Sure. Just don't about doing like they're probably going to do a live action Invincible. Yep.

Just don't. Sure. Just don't do it. Just don't do it, yeah. You don't need to. It's fine. It's working. It's working.

Don't touch it. But it's not legit unless it's live action, James. It'll never become legit until it's a live action show. Yeah, you're probably right. Speaking of live action, Ghostbusters Frozen Empire gets a trailer. What a segue, by the way. Why is that? Speaking of live action. It of live action, Ghostbusters Frozen Empire gets a trailer. What a segue, by the way. Why is that? Speaking of live action.

It is live action. I guess. I was thinking also because Kumail Nanjiani is in this and he talked about how it was his dream to be in a Ghostbusters, his favourite movie as a kid or whatever, which is what you said. And apparently this plays like an episode of the real Ghostbusters animated series from the 80s. It's got that kind of energy to it.

Yeah. I mean, the plot seems to be that there's some evil ghost that is making everything cold. Yeah. Which is classic Ghostbusters. What I also think about this as well is, thank God, and it might change into this, it's not just fucking Zool again or whatever, you know?

That's true, yes. They're trying a new spooky ghost situation. Yeah, I think the idea behind this one is most likely, well, we re-established the characters and we tied it to the old stuff in the last one. Yeah. So now this is a new Ghostbusters adventure, which everybody will hate. Absolutely. I, So now this is a new Ghostbusters adventure, which everybody will hate.

Absolutely. I, look, you know I hate Ghostbusters. I do. And I hate anybody who talks to me about Ghostbusters. Yeah, yeah. Even me right now. Yes, that's right. I'm seething. No, no, no. If it's a rule for everyone else, it should be a rule for me. Yeah. And my controversial opinion is that I think Ghostbusters 2 is about as good as

the 2016 review. Yeah, we talked about it. And the only reason I think that is because people like that second one, and it's fine, I guess, is because it's the original cast. But it's not a particularly funny movie. Yeah, we re-watched it in the last few years. Yeah, it's whatever. It's got some okay ideas and special effects, but yeah. But again, what it-

And I didn't like the new one because it was just, like, it got to, like, the last 30 minutes and they just did the ending of the original Ghostbusters. They just did the whole fucking thing again. I should rewatch that one. Anyway, what is interesting to me about this trailer, and they did it the same with the last one, with Afterlife, it's depicting Ghostbusters with such an incredible hushed reverence. Yeah.

Like they're not just fucking rat catchers. That's right. That's right. Just dirty rat catchers covered in grime and slime. Just, you know. Yeah. There's no jokes in this, which is fascinating to me. No jokes, busters.

I feel like we've done that before. We did that one. We did it. We absolutely did. But yeah, I mean, the last one did have some jokes in it. Yeah. I know, like, I haven't spoken well of it. It's fine.

It's like the Force Awakens for fucking ghostbusters. Yeah, absolutely. You know, all your heroes turn up and they bring back people who died in real life. That's what people want apparently, so fucking whatever. I think for this though. But you say to me, you always say it, Harold Ramis has got to stay dead.

That's what you say to me. I said that. You say that before we start every podcast. And you go to put the hand in, like we're going to do a chant, and I'm like, I won't do that. It doesn't even make sense. You want him to come back? He's obviously going to stay dead in real life. We don't have to do the hand in, like we're going to do a chant and I'm like, I won't do that. It doesn't even make sense. You want him to come back? He's obviously going to stay dead in real life.

We don't have to do the hands in thing. Then just commit to it. It's fine. If you're so confident about it. I'm mostly confident. It's like where it's like, it's just believe in God because why not? Because what if it's real, you know? It's true.

It's the same thing. And if I don't, I'll go to hell. That's right. So I guess I have to say Harold Ramis, stay dead, otherwise I go to hell. Exactly. Anyway, I think it's fascinating. You're not prepared to put some jokes in this trailer

for a comedy, this comedy sci-fi fantasy movie? Maybe it's not a comedy. I don't know, man. I mean, it's got funny people in it, like Patton Oswalt's in it, Paul Rudd's in it, Kamau Nanjiani's in it. The Ghostbusters kids. Bill Murray was funny once. That's right, he was at some point.

And he liked being in movies at some point. I don't think that's true. That one frame of him in this trailer, he does not look like he wants to be there. No. Here's the thing. You know how we talked about, and you informed me of this when we talked about Ghostbusters,

Girl Ghostbusters for Caravan of Garbage. Okay. It was that there is some sort of proviso in the contracts for new Ghostbusters movies that everybody who's currently still alive involved in the production of Ghostbusters 1 has to agree to make the movie, otherwise it can't happen. Oh, okay. Did I say that?

I think you did. Maybe you made it up. I don't know. But I think the idea was that it had to be like Harold Ramis, Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd and... Whoever else. Eddie Hudson. No, I don't think he's on there.

Well, he was a late addition, wasn't he? That's true, yeah. I think maybe Landis. Oh, okay. And I think the idea... Fucking Landis? Yeah. Jesus.

Wait, who directed the first one? Oh, no, it's Ramis. Not Harold Ramis. What the fuck's his name? Ivan Reitman. Ivan Reitman, there we go. His son does it, Jason Reitman. Yeah, Jason Reitman.

Yeah, the Reitmans. So I think the idea was that they all had to sign off in any sequels, whether or not they were in them. So I guess my question is, does signing off on a sequel mean that all the original Ghostbusters have to be in the movie? I mean, maybe, yeah. Because that would explain why he's... Like, is it some sort of double-edged sword, this contract, where he's like, I'm not going

to sign off on this. I hold the balance of power here. But then once he finally signs on the line, he's like, well, you've got to be in this. You've got to be in it, man. Yeah, absolutely. You've got to be in it to win it. Anyway, I will say this. I think this could be good. Yeah. Genuinely, because it looks slightly

different. Yes. And imagine having a slightly different Ghostbusters movie. I won't. I won't do it. You know, you just want original Ghostbusters where everybody's young again, right? Exactly. That's what I want. Yeah, and no jokes. Just reverence. That's right. Just reverence to different technologies we saw. There's a lot of cutting to them, and they jokes. Just reverence. That's right. Just reverence to different technologies we saw.

There's a lot of like cutting to them and they've got the proton gun and it's just like hushed tones. Oh, my goodness. Chanting. They fire it up and they say something cool and pithy. Yeah, yeah. Eat proton zaps, ghosts, your dogs. I liked how J.K. Simmons was in it for a second.

I like that. Was he? Yeah, he was like, I've all fucking whatever his name. Chando. Oh, yeah, he was too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Came back and whatever. That's great. Yeah, he was like, I've all fucking whatever his name was. Chando. Oh, yeah, it was too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Came back and whatever. That's great.

Yeah, it's great. It is great. It's not great. No, but I did like that, actually. Anyways. It's great. Fucking whatever. Let's move on.

Okay. All right. Let's talk live action Zelda movie. Okay. Now, Mario Brothers had a big movie this year. It was Mario Brothers. It wasn't live action but boy did it make a billion dollars despite

being not great but fine. That's great. But it looks like Mario. This one is going to be directed by Wes Ball who did the Maze Runner trilogy. I thought you were going to say Wes Ball and from Limp Bizkit. You wish. I wish. Fred Durst is a director, isn't he? He directs stuff occasionally. Sure. Like movies. Yeah. He also is directing the new Planet of the Apes

movie which we talked about last week, the trailer. Now, the wrinkle in this, people are saying that Abby Arad is producing. Famous Spider-Man ruiner. But he also brought the original Spider-Man in, like the Tobey Maguire thing, like he had a huge hand in that, even kicking off like the MCU until Kevin Feige sidestepped him and put him in a bin. So, you know, and he's been, you know, he's around.

That's true. Yeah, and he has had some, wasn't there something, he had a good idea for something recently you told me about. Like he made somebody. Was it Smell-O-Vision? No, he made somebody the villain or the main focus of something. It was like, it was the spot. Oh, yeah.

He said put the spot in the Spider-Verse movie. So, you know, he's got ideas. All right, dial it down with the language when referring to Abbey Arad, please. What I'm saying is that I don't necessarily, even though people think this is bad, I don't necessarily think it is. I think there's a good chance that this just will be bad in general.

Arad or no Arad. Yeah, because, you know, it's a live-action fucking Zelda movie. I'm assuming it'll be like a new universe with a bunch of references to the other universes. Well, aren't all Zelda games like a new universe to some degree? Yeah, except for like the direct sequels, but yes, they're all different. What are we thinking casting for

that Zelda remake? Well, people are saying for Zelda, obviously, that famous green character with his bow and arrow mason. People are saying like a Tom Holland or a Timothy Sharla. I hate those. What do you think? What's that fella, that young fella?

He was in Evil Dead Rise and he was also in One Piece. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Isn't he a stranger? He is. I liked Evil Dead Rise. Morgan Davies. Yeah, okay.

I can see that. Could be both. Could be both. What about this? Because a lot of people have said like. Ganondorf, Bruce Campbell. I loveies. Yeah, okay. I can say that. Could be both. Could be both. What about this? Because a lot of people have said like... Ganondorf, Bruce Campbell. I love that. Yes. Wow. What were you saying, though? You were saying something?

You were saying? Some people have said I haven't said anything. Just have Zelda and Link be played by the same person. Love that. But for real, why not? I don't care. I don't like anything, so it's fine. I'm not impressed or like anything.

But I think they have to be Zelda and Link have to be young and like, what's the term? Androgynous. Yeah. That's the way it goes, man. I agree. If you don't like it, get in the bin. Get in the bin. I'm really hungover. Yeah, I know. If you don't like it, get in the bin. Get in the bin. I'm really hungover.

Yeah, I know. I can tell. You know? Yeah. Is it also because I told you before the show? You told me earlier, yeah. And from that information, I've gleaned that simple truth about you. You said you were really hungover earlier.

But I think the listeners have figured it out. I think they know. By this point. They're like, surly old James is back. He's probably had one Ivo Shandy. I did not. And now he's a little... I went to my gym Christmas party for some reason.

Wow. And let me tell you, got out of hand. That's November. You've got to get in on it, mate. Sure. You've got to get early. You don't know anything about gym life. That's true. You got to get in on it, mate. Sure. You got to get early. You don't know anything about gym life. That's true.

You don't know. Oh, this is the equivalent of like getting up at 5.30 a.m. for a workout. Exactly. You have your Christmas party in November. This is 2025's Christmas party. That's how far we're getting ahead of it. Anyways, nice bit of news, which I thought was fun.

GQ spoke to Jeremy Allen White, who people might know from The Bear. He's The Bear. And also Shameless. Oh, yeah, he's in Shameless. He's the Shameless one. He's Mr. Shameless. He's Mr. Shameless. He's like, what do you reckon?

Come on, Mr. Shameless. Bit of decorum, please. Nah. Put it all away, Mr. Shameless. I won't. Well, he's got to be shameless. He's also in Zac Efron wrestling family movie. Oh, he's too, yeah.

Which people are looking forward to. Yeah. You make that sound like there's going to be a positive outcome for that family. Is that not what it's about? I don't believe so. It's not like the one fighting with my family that they did with whatever? No, I think it should be called Tragic Fighting

with my soon-to-be-dead family. Oh, no. Actually, I don't know what it's about, but I don't think that ends well for anybody. No, it doesn't. I don't know specifically how, but I think you're right. Anyways, he spoke to GQ about making a Marvel movie. This is what he said.

I had a meeting for a kind of Marvel-y movie, and I had an attitude. I think I played it all wrong. Tell me why I should do your movie is what he said. And they were like, fuck you. And I was like, right on. That's pretty great. Now what's the speculation here?

What do you think? Because he said, I reckon if he went to Marvel, he would have said I went to Marvel. See, I would have, if somebody said. Oh, you think it was like a DC or Bloodshot? Sony. Do you want to be in a Bloodshot sequel? Yeah, maybe a Bloodshot sequel.

And that's the thing. Like I would have said he might be a shoe-in for Wolverine. You Wolverine? Oh, I like that. Because he's little and he's massively, he's incredibly ripped if you've seen him. Yep. But yeah, he's got the look, I think, and the vibe. He's got the look.

Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. Marvel-y. Who knows what that means? It could just mean a franchise thing. Yeah. So, yeah. I don't know. Marvel-y. Who knows what that means? It could just mean a franchise thing. Yeah. Or maybe he's, you know, maybe he's in the world of like most people where everything's kind of Marvel-y.

Yeah. So Marvel stuff is Marvel-y. DC stuff is sort of Marvel-y. It's all Marvel-y, man. Bloodshot sequel is Marvel-y. Very Marvel-y. You know, so maybe he did go to Marvel. Yeah.

Maybe they just put him in a car and drove him a place. Maybe they did. And they were like, you want to be Wolverine? And he went, tell me why. Why should I? And then went, fuck you. And he went right on. Right on. He just got up and left. Right on. Yeah, probably, yeah.

Got some McConaughey vibes. Definitely does. He probably got an electric scooter when he left. Anyway, should we move it along? Yeah, let's move it along. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. All right, the marvels came out. How'd it do? Bad. Oh no. It's still bad. It's still bad. We didn't talk about it because it came out, the final trailer came out between the last podcast and this podcast, and the movie's out now. But I don't know if you saw it. No.

But just a fascinating piece of, they just put in some like Captain America and Iron Man. Oh, I did see a bit of that, yeah. You did see that? It was a real swing for the fences. You remember Endgame? Well, this is the next movie after Endgame. Forget everything else.

Yeah, don't worry about it. You don't need to know anything. As far as you're concerned, you fell asleep after Endgame. You woke up. It's time for the next movie. Don't worry about it. Disney Plus, never heard of it. Disney Plus series, don't know what you're talking about.

Secret Invasion? WandaVision? WandaVision, Ms. Marvel, never heard of them. Nope. G-Hulk? Never heard of them. Nope. She-Hulk? Never heard of it. Nope. Shut up.

It's only Man-Hulk. That's right. On a budget of maybe $250 million that fluctuates, some people say $220 million, and at a box office opening, US, it's expected to have a $47 to $52 million weekend, or $110 to $115 million worldwide. It also had the second lowest opening day gross behind The Incredible Hulk. Oh, no. Out of the whole MCU. That one doesn't even count for some reason.

No, it doesn't count. It's not a real one. It also has the lowest opening weekend debut for a Disney MCU movie domestically, as in the US. So does that not include the ones that they made before Marvel was acquired by Disney? Yeah, I guess. So the first three. I think even then it's still worse. And it's got the lowest international weekend box office

for a Disney MCU movie also. Even like Ant-Man somehow got over $100 million in its opening weekend. And that's not a good movie. Ant-Man 3, I should specify, which probably came out this year. It doesn't seem right though. Was it the year before or 10 years ago? I don't know.

Did it come out? It came out exclusive to Disney+. Yeah. Or was it on Quibi? Was it a Christmas special? I got a new phone this week and I swapped all the apps over. You got Quibi? My phone was like, you want to swap over Quibi?

The system that is no longer existing. What did you get Quibi for? Because we talked about it. Oh, we talked about the golden arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. That's fun, isn't it? Yeah.

So, yeah, and as a result of this also, they started just scrambling to promote this using the actors in it because the writer's strike ended just as it was opening for the weekend, so they pushed out everybody in this movie in front of various cameras and press events. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The cats. They got Goose out there.

They got Goose out. They didn't get Go goose to scab. And I would say, and we talked about this because there was an article and not having your actors promote the movie could account for maybe like 10% of opening gross or whatever, which, you know, is not insignificant, but it doesn't account for what has happened.

Oh, that's true, yeah. There is obviously some fatigue in relation to the MCU happening at the moment. Anyways, what do you think the story was? Oh, come on, mate. All right, well, Avengers Endgame happened. Yep. That was the last movie we saw.

And then Don't Worry About It. Don't Worry About Anything. But let me think what happened in this movie. Some people said it's the plot of Spaceballs, but I don't remember Spaceballs well enough to confirm that to be true. Is it? I don't know. Like the villain's plot.

Oh. I don't remember. No, I don't I don't know we'll look it up later okay uh all right so uh bloody bloody bad things are happening on the planet hala which is the kree home world what it's not looking too good no but the leader of the kree is maybe you shouldn't have turned off your son you fucking idiot you idiot he's stupid idiot yeah oh our computer went down let's turn off the sun think you don't need a computer to tell you to not turn off the sun. You should know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's instinctual. Yeah. You need the sun to grow your veggies and so forth. Should we get rid of all our water? No, obviously not. Don't do that. Don't do it. You need that to water the veggies.

Anyway, the leader of the Kree is like, well, this is all Captain Marvel's fault, so let's get her. Yeah. But in the meantime, bloody Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel and Photon, I guess, Spectrum. Do they name? No, she doesn't get them. Spoilers.

Yeah. Monica Rambeau's character does not get her superhero name. Their powers get entangled. That's right. Quantum Their powers get entangled. That's right. Quantum spell. Quantum entangled. So that's going to lead to a big predicament, isn't it? I agree.

And that is what happened. What did you think? I liked it. I didn't mind it. It's pretty fun. I thought it was better than the first one. Okay, yeah. I thought it was more interesting in terms of the things they were doing.

And some of the things that I think people will like, this is big time cringe this moment actually. doing and some of the things that i think people will like this is big time cringe this moment actually oh i feel like um this is miss marvel meets captain marvel for the first time after kind of you know yeah idolizing her for a few years uh and i think a lot of people like oh that's not cringe hero worship that's not the things that i thought was cringe hero worship also what i liked about that dynamic was that captain marvel wasn't like dismissive and like tony starking it. She was like, I know you like me and that's cool.

I like you too. I thought that was a more interesting dynamic than her being like, whatever, kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get away from me, kid. Get away from me and I'm going to observe you from afar and don't do anything I wouldn't do or anything I would do. Exactly. Oh, you've made a mistake because I wasn't there. Well, that's your fault.

I'm Tony Stark. That's right. Exactly. Oh, you've made a mistake because I wasn't there. Well, that's your fault. I'm Tony Stark. That's right. But no, I think a lot of the stuff that was like weirder and like more interesting as a concept, like there's a particular planet they go to at one point and there's like a little like routine and thing that happens there. And I feel like stuff like that was like the weirdest stuff was either cut short or cut out.

And that was the stuff to me that I know people like cringe and whatever, I'm sure. But that to me is like that's a fun thing. Yeah. Like that's a fun little sequence. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, like a silly thing. And there's a few things in that where I'm like, oh,

that's fun and silly. And it felt like that they really just like went, how much of this can we cut out? Right, of course, yeah. That's what it felt like to me. Because this is quite a short movie, isn't it? It's the shortest MCU movie we've ever seen oh yeah oh not shorter than a tv show but one episode of a tv show any tv show yeah i am again i think it's better than captain marvel i think

it's a like a and i think the dynamic between the three of them is good and i agree yeah and leads to like some interesting interplay and also action sequences i think there are some really interesting action sequences and in there were and i and i think the the mechanism of their powers are entangled and so every time they quantum entangled quantum talent so anytime they use them in sort of like uh you know when they when they sort of go all out they switch places yeah if they use them at the same time i think that was a really good mechanism for sort of nerfing captain marvel so she can't just be like cutting ships in half with her lasers and what have you like and i don't mean that in a

negative i mean that in the way like i think that's a you know in an end game style situation or you know the finale to captain marvel her just blowing up you know whole armadas of spaceships i think that's fun yeah but i think in a way like you know when you when you team up these sorts of characters you need a mechanism so it makes sense that it's not just Captain Marvel. Just obliterating everybody. Obliterating everything and then the rest of the team just sort of following in her footsteps, shoveling debris out of the way or whatever. So I thought that was interesting.

And like you said, it leads to some fun action sequences where they're learning how that system works. Some switchy fights. Yeah, and even like a couple of Kree soldiers can sort of become a credible threat. Yes. Because you don't know what's going to happen when you use your powers. So you have to lean on just a big punch. Just a big fist fighting. Just a big fist fighting.

Hit somebody with a vase and etc. Yeah, that's right. But anyway, I think, again, like we say with every Marvel movie, I think the casting is what works. So I think Brie Larson's great. Iman Vidalani is terrific of course. Tiana Paris as Photon or whoever. Photon, whoever. I think Brie Larson's great. Iman Vidalani is terrific, of course. Teona Paris as... Photon or whoever. Photon, whoever.

I think, like you said, they're a great teamwork. Supporting Casper, of course, we've got Samuel L. Jackson is back, which is nice. He forgot Secret Invasion, I assume. Didn't bring it up at all. He didn't say anything about it. Didn't say anything about it. But this is also, there are like Skrulls and Kree.

He didn't mention that. He didn't mention it at all, did he? He didn't mention how the president was a Skrull or whatever, know he didn't mention that didn't mention it at all didn't mention how like the president was a scroll or whatever did he mention that at all no no i would have brought it up that did he did he shot his friend roadie in the head and it turned out he was a scroll yeah i didn't mention that at all no no yeah i wonder if there was more again do you think there was more to that in this had been secret invasion been a success no i don I don't think that these were ever linked. I know I saw an interview, it might have been with the director, Nia DaCosta, who was like, oh, he's different in this

because he's around different people. So he has a different vibe when he's hanging out with these guys as opposed to like Ben Wilson. He's wearing a brown jacket, not a black jacket. But I think he's just in this movie is different. That's right. He's just different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's always good as Nick Fury, so I don't have any complaints. Do you think there were two sound stages, one for Secret Invasion and one for the Marvels, and he would just switch between? He'd put a different jacket on? Different volumes? Yeah, so he'd remember which version of the character he was. Which eye patch?

Do I just switch the eye patch to the other eye? And then can I do that? Then I'll know which movie I'm supposed to be in or whatever. But who else? Again, I think... The villain's not great. Sorry? The villain's not great in terms of like, I think she, I like her,

but I think it's a pretty kind of like- You took everything from me. Yeah, and now I'm going to, also, she's right, but it's also like, but I'm going to kill a bunch of refugees, et cetera, whatever, you know, so it's that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that thing again. It is that thing again.

Yeah, again, I think Iman Valani's a standout. I think she's really good in this, as she was in the TV series, if people haven't checked it out, which I'm sure a lot of people haven't. But, yeah, I liked her enthusiasm. I liked her, you know, I like the character's reverence for the universe that she's in. And, like, I don't know, we need a character who knows what they're doing in terms of, like, just being kind of happy

to be in the universe. I think the enthusiasm definitely works. It's a fun animated sequence. And we get a family who I like as well. Well, one of them might be a bad guy in real life. He might be a bad guy in real life, but he's in every scene that all the family are in. And so it probably would be hard to cut him out.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I think also the suits are good. There's a moment where they all get some new Captain Marvel-esque suits and I think all of those look good. The new Captain Marvel one that Brie Larson has, it's kind of got a Superman, Man of Steel kind of vibe

and texturing to it. It's a muted kind of suit and I quite like the look of that one as well. But I think all the different suits are very kind of dynamic and fit their personas and all of that really well, which I think all the different suits are very kind of dynamic and fit like their personas and all of that really well, which I think is fun. They did that thing, though, where Photon or whoever, she gets the suit and it's meant to be like there's a version of her from the 80s that has a kind of like a silky wing kind of situation

and she has them on for a fraction of a second. She's like, no, it doesn't work for me and she rips them off kind of thing. Oh, okay. I forgot about that. Commit to it. You don't like it? Keep the silky wings? Keep the silky wings.

Yeah, absolutely. I'm just going to talk about the sequence. This is a minor spoiler but there's a moment where, the time goes below if you want to skip, but there's a moment where they go to like a planet where they communicate through song. So most of them can't speak or understand you if you talk normally.

Yeah, right. Everything's communicated through. They do speak in English. Yeah, they do speak in English. I mean, they've all got universal translators. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought that was really fun. Yes.

And again, like I think that's going to be a thing that people are like, I hate this and cringe or whatever. Yeah. But any time that, you know, even if it didn't work for me, which I think it did, I just, like, appreciate just, yeah, put a weird scene planet in here. Why not? The thing, what I thought was interesting about that is that they didn't

get everybody involved. Well, that's what I think. I reckon this was like a bigger kind of moment. And everybody saw it. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and you could have done like a. Was there a dance sequence in.

Ms. Marvel? Ms. Marvel? I'm pretty sure there was at some point maybe. So I think it's odd that they didn't get. I would have liked to seen. Yeah. Ms. Marvel and Photon or whoever and the family. That's what I mean.

Or get involved. I don't think they committed to like. Yeah. Certain ideas in this. You would think that you'd be like, oh, I remember this. Yeah. This happened in my TV series and Ms. Marvel. I'll also.

Like, Iman Villani's sort of there in the background. Yeah. Which is into it, the character. But it's like, I in the background. Yeah. He's into it, the character. But it's like, I don't know. Yeah. It would have been fun. Absolutely. But it was still fun.

Yeah, again, fun, but like I could have done with more of this. I also, there's a reason why like the Kree are coming after Captain Marvel. And there's kind of this moment. She didn't pay her taxes. That's right. There's a moment of like reflection of what she, what caused, how she kind of caused a bunch of this and whatever. And I think that's an interesting element to this moment of like reflection of what caused, how she kind of caused a bunch of this and whatever. And I think that's an interesting element to this character of like,

well, this whole thing that's happening is because of you. But it feels really like they speed through that. They do, don't they? And I would have liked to have kind of like, not like sat in the consequences of it for too long, but like explore that idea a little bit more that she rushed to do this thing which caused the events of this movie. She didn't pay her taxes

and they couldn't have they didn't have enough money to maintain the artificial intelligence and then it shut down and they were like well let's blow up the sun i guess so yeah do you know what i mean by that though exactly what you mean and that's again this is why i think this movie is like it's it's like it's fine in moments and it's fine, but it really feels like they just took a fucking axe to a bunch of this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I liked the sort of we got to look in with Saber, which is like the space-based shield.

And I just liked, you know, it's sort of a – How old was that guy, 300 years old? What was he? I wonder if he was Asgardian or something. Oh, okay. Maybe he was. I recognize him, but I don't know whether it's from the MCU or something else. Yeah, I don't know.

But I like the idea we got a look at, like, Earth's integration into the larger, like, cosmic Marvel universe. Like, it's just sort of, you know, it's in orbit and, you know, we're not out in, like, Guardians of the Galaxy style. We're just sort of, like, reaching out as far as we can into space. I thought that was a bit fun. There's an attempt, yeah, to do that. I think also like aesthetically it's way more interesting than I think

a bunch of Marvel stuff recently. I think it looks better than a lot of MCU stuff recently. Like a lot of it feels like in terms of like special effects and like design, it feels finished. Yeah. And like because I remember the aesthetic of like Captain Marvel I found was just kind of like generic space blah. But here I think like seeing different ships and planets and alien races,

it felt more kind of what you do in like a Guardians movie or one of the better Thor movies than just like generic Blade Runner sci-fi. Yes, for sure. Whatever, you know. And I love movies. Do you? But I thought this was okay. You don't love all movies.

No, that's true, actually. I love the Ghostbusters movies. I was going to say you love the Ghostbusters movies. I know that about you. Should we do some spoilers? Yes. Yeah, best movie ever. I'm going to say best movie ever.

I had a lot of fun with this. I mean, compare it to, what are the last few Marvel movies? Batman. Garbage. Garbage. Yeah, I thought it was better than those. It's not better than Guardians 3. No, it's not. those uh-huh um it's not better than guardians three no it's not no yeah but um but it's not like i wouldn't go god i wish i was watching

guardians 3 right now yeah but do you wish you were no even now even instead of doing this but i think you know it to me this this feels like like a fun palette cleanser in the sense of like not every marvel movie can be guardians 3 because there's some heavy issues in it and there's some like closure to character arcs and, you know, it gets quite deep into the grief and et cetera. And so did Black Panther 2. Yeah, exactly. And I'm like.

Oh, God, that was brutal. Yeah, if we missed, like if we skipped a few, you know, this would be like, oh, this is one where you just go in there and you have a bit of fun and, you know, the universe is at stake but also we're just having a bit of fun and, yeah. It's also interesting that, well, this was originally rotten on Rotten Tomatoes and now it's at a 62% so it's a little bit higher. So it's now just fresh.

And not that this means anything because this can be changed in any number of ways but the audience score is 85% on Rotten Tomatoes. And I feel like the response to this is like people are like, not always, but a lot of it's like, yes, unless you're like Brie Larson, blah, blah, blah. I'm not putting that aside because, God, that fucking noise. Are you hungover right now, James?

Yes, Mason, I'm hungover right now. But, yeah, I think people are genuinely like, yeah, it's all right. But I also think that off the back of what we've had for maybe the last few movies and years and TV shows, then people aren't going to I also think that off the back of what we've had for maybe the last few movies and years and TV shows, then people aren't going to, I think that is the main reason why people aren't seeing this. Do you think? Also because did they even promote it properly?

I don't know if they did. What was the last Pixar movie that didn't do well initially but then word of mouth went around? Oh, something happened. Turning Red? It wasn't Turning Red. No, Elemental ended up doing it. There we go.

That's the one. Which I didn't think was great, but it did like they left it out. They left it out there. Maybe that's, you know. Maybe this could happen. Yeah, I think this movie has stuff in it where if we weren't at this point in the Marvel decline that people would go, oh, I love this. Yeah.

You know? Like if it had to come out like before Endgame or whatever. Is that what you're saying? Not even. I think, you know, I think if people weren't, I would like to think that I'm not going into these movies kind of like, well, I'm ready to hate this kind of thing. I mean, I didn't think I'd like it as much as I did.

I thought it would be like really fucking middling, and it was like better than that for me. But let me hear your opinion if this becomes a YouTube video. Let me just scream about it in the bottom. Anyway, spoilers. Yeah. What's the deal with Ms. Marvel's powers, right? So she's got the photon band or whatever.

But did her powers still work without it? It seems like. What's happening? What are her powers again? Okay, what seems to be happening is. Crystal time. Well, she is officially a mutant. Yes.

Although I think technically she might be a mutate. Oh. That's not important. What I think happened is the bangle activated her inherent powers, I think. And then she can just still do it. And then she can do it without the bangle activated her inherent powers, I think. And then she can just still do it. And then she can do it without the bangle. Okay. Or the bangles.

Yeah. There didn't seem to be any. Did we say best movie ever? Yes, I did. Okay, great. I think you also did. I would never. I think otherwise there'd be a line in there like,

oh, I can only take the bangle off for a minute, otherwise I lose my powers or something like that. Okay, yeah. But there didn't seem to be any concern for that. I think she just wears it because it was a grandma's bangle. Sure, okay. So, you know. Absolutely.

Okay, makes sense. So Tessa Thompson's in this briefly. That is true. Apparently they were talking about like – See, I think, again, pre-Endgame, I think people would be like, ah! Tessa Thompson! I saw that like there was some speculation.

They're like, oh, are they a couple, like Brie Larson? Oh, like maybe they were. Yeah, but like because it's a Disney movie, it's like I didn't get that sense like at all right like they if that was if that was supposed to be implied that right i had some kind of relationship i didn't i didn't get that okay like what if like they play you can't understand human mannerism i don't need to i don't need to i just need facts and logic and clarity yeah sure and not have this splitting fucking headache yeah sure that's what i need but yeah did you get that sense like i didn't feel that at all i thought they were like and not have this splitting fucking headache. Yeah, sure. That's what I need. But, yeah, did you get that sense?

Like I didn't feel that at all. I thought they were like friendly, like they'd hung out and they knew each other. No, I definitely got an idea of like something. Okay. Yeah, I'm like, well, they're definitely close. But maybe it's because they murdered all those people in Endgame. Maybe it is. But also like it's vague enough where you can leave that in

and have that interpretation and then you don't get banned in whatever country. That's true, yeah. I mean that is classic Disney noncommittal obviously. But, yeah, I got the impression it's like, well, maybe, you know, probably they've had adventures off screen or whatever. Maybe they have. Maybe they have.

They're cosmic space-based people or whatever. Whoa, I love that. Pretty good. Anyway, I like the cats moment. Sure. They play a song from Cats and then all the cats eat all the people, whatever. Whoa, I love that. Pretty good. Anyway, I like the cats moment. Sure. They play a song from cats. Oh. And then all the cats eat all the people and whatever.

I thought that was, again, a fun thing to have. I thought it was good because we learn early on that the flirking eating people doesn't kill them necessarily. It's got like a pocket dimension. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then at the end we go, oh, what's the solution? And I'm like, I bet those are flirking eggs. Yeah, I think they're from the comics. It took me a dimension. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then at the end we go, oh, what's the solution? And I'm like, I bet those are flogging eggs. Yeah, I think they're from the comics, right?

It took me a second to be like, what is this again? I'm like, I've seen this, but I don't remember from what. I mean, it was telegraphed pretty heavily. There's one where the woman's like, I don't know how we're all going to get off the space station. If only we could all fit in the one space pod. You know? And they did.

They did. They somehow figured it out, yeah. But, yeah, as I alluded to or maybe I just straight out said. You said it. Captain Marvel is a big murderer. Yes. Because straight after the events of original Captain Marvel, she flew back to the Kree home world.

And fucked up the Supreme Intelligence, yeah. It was a big face now. They've retconned it back into the classic version where it's just a big green face. Yeah, which makes sense because that's, that's the source of it. I think Annette Bening should have shown up and been like, don't kill me. God damn it.

No, no. No. Don't do it. Don't do it. And then because their supercomputer. I'll tell my husband Warren Beatty about this. No. Because the supercomputer goes out,

they decide to put out the sun and take all the water and air away. I don't think they decided to do that. They did. Okay. They made a series of poor decisions. Sure, sure. And I thought- Should we turn our hydroelectric station into mining Bitcoin?

Yes. Oh, no. So Brie Larson's like basically, not Brie Larson, the actor, but the Brie Larson character is responsible for, in a way, the decline of this civilization. Sure, yeah, yeah. Which is why the villain has a big hammer and is responsible for, in a way, the decline of this civilisation. Sure, yeah. Which is why the villain has a big hammer and wants to hit her in the head. But they are also like, you know, I mean, I guess their government

is like a warmongering government. Exactly. But it's not the people's fault. No, but I did feel like that, yeah, again, interesting idea. I think it also like because there are people complaining and like, oh, she's just perfect and good at everything. it's like well not this sure not this thing that happened oh well great way to make a mistake brie larson the actor and accidentally destroy the society yeah i just so the villain's plan is oh yeah the reveal is that having both there are there are two

there are two bangles ms marvel had one and activated and then there's the band and then there's the bang so there's three bangles uh and the Marvel had one and activated her powers. And then there's the band. And then there's the band. So there's three bangles. And the remaining bangle was out in space. And if you combine the two bangles, it enables you to create jump points, hyperspace jump points. And apparently at some point in the distant past, somebody used these bangles to create the jump point network that allows everybody in the Marvel Universe to.

The beehive thing you showed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the hexagons. It enables them to, like, fly faster than light to different locations. And so the villain's plan is she is going to open a bunch of unstable jump points to steal the resources from various planets to rebuild her planet. Yeah. And the planet she's stealing resources from are ones that are significant

to Captain Marvel. Yes. Because they hate Captain Marvel. Yep. Which is is fair because she punched out their computer she did she absolutely punched that computer right and it's nuts um i mean what i think the problem of course is that happens a lot of the time i think with marvel movies is they they're like oh by the way a bunch of stuff happened behind the scenes yeah that. That you didn't see, but trust us, it happened. So Captain Marvel, the planets that are having resources stolen from them are significant to Captain Marvel. Yes.

So one is Earth, obviously, because that's where she's from. But then the other couple of planets where they're stealing the atmosphere and the water. There's the Sing Song planet. There's the Sing Song planet and the Skrull planet. So what happened to those planets? We never found out. No, I think at the end they went, oh, actually, they'll be fine.

Yeah, but I feel like that's something that was probably in the movie at some point. Like we saw something happen. You know, we'd cut to the planet at the end. Oh, at the end. The Sing Song Planet. Yeah, and the Skrulls would be there in front of the Sydney Harbour Bridge. Exactly.

We defeated them. No, there was literally just a line where somebody said, oh, the planets will recover. I missed that completely. Were you hungover? No, not that far. You were thinking about getting hungover. I defeated them. We did it. No, there was literally just a line where somebody said, oh, the planets will recover. I missed that completely. Were you hungover? No, not that one. You were thinking about getting hungover. I knew I was going to be.

Yeah, that's right. So you're probably not focused. Yeah, you're probably right. Focused on being a grump. Yeah. But the thing is that we'd not seen either of those planets before, like the other two. So it was kind of like, well, this planet is significant to me

because I married that guy. Yeah. Okay. And you kind of look like Loki a little bit. That's right. So the post-credits of this, Mason, this is interesting. So Kevin Feige talked about Harry Styles returning because he was, of course, in the post-credits of The Eternals.

And he said, he's excited, we're excited, we will see. We have introduced a lot of new characters in a lot of movies and a lot of tags. That is true. Where do the tag folk reappear? That's a good question. That's a great one. I mean, most of them have.

A few of them noticeably have not. Specifically Harry Styles. As Eros, the Eternal of Love. But we're going to talk about the beasters in this. Mr. Beast shows up. Okay, well, yeah, Mr. Beast. No. So we get two post-credits.

Do we? Yeah, we get two. I thought there was a mid-credits and that's it. You might be thinking of a pre-credits. Do we? Yeah, we get two. I thought there was a mid-credits and that's it. You might be thinking of a pre-credits. What's the first one you're talking about? Well, the one I'm talking about is that Ms. Marvel goes to big time New York City, baby. Yeah. And she meets Hawkeye, new Hawkeye.

That's just the end of the movie, I think. Is it? Okay, right. She does a Nick Fury on it. Yeah. Again, that's the thing that I think if a few years ago, if they'd done that, people would be like, yes, they're doing the thing again, but it's a different thing. It's a riff.

They're doing Young Avengers. It's a Young Avengers thing. So they, so she meets a new, we're going to get Hulk bad haircut. We might get Hulk bad haircut. She Hulk. Yeah.

We got, we got a lot of options. Um, I was going to say, little Ant-Man. Yeah. Young Ant-Man lady. Younger Ant-Man.

Younger Ant-Man lady. Yeah. Um, wait, this sounds like a team of girls. Well, it's some boys. There's also Scarlet Witch's kids. Oh, yeah.

Who may or may not be real. They could put in as Miles Morales, I guess, if they ever get to that. Yeah, that's true. America Chavez, team of girls. Yep. Patriot. Who's that? Falcon Winter Soldier, the original Captain America's kid.

Remember? Original Captain America's kid. Do you remember? Do you remember? Steve Rogers' kid. No. What you know Captain America's kid? Do you remember? Do you remember? Steve Rogers' kid. No. What are you talking about? Eli Bradley.

So Isaiah Bradley. Remember Carl Lively was in the Captain America's kid? Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot about him. He was the Captain America they tested the serum on before they gave it to Steve Rogers. Yeah.

So he might be on the team. Yep. Cool. Someone has suggested Kid Loki from Loki. Yeah. He could be on checking a kid like ironheart of course yep uh scar holds son bad haircut yep and there you go that's the whole team i reckon there you go let's cover it and they could bring in whoever else they really

wanted yeah that's true they could yeah okay yeah um so there you go but in this but this time around and that was the end of the movie i believe okay the mid-credits scene because of course photon or whatever her name isn't yeah to a reality to close reality. Yes, sure, sure. She accidentally goes into a different reality. Imagine if you haven't seen this movie and you're trying to piece together the plot from what we've said about it. I feel like that.

A noble endeavor, I think. I think so, too. So Photon or whoever, she's gone. She has to close the unstable jump line. We've got to close the unstable thing. Well, I'll use my powers. I'll have to do a big sacrifice. Can you not? No.

No, I'll do it. Just to tell you no, though, it won't be a real sacrifice because I'll still be alive on the other side. And I'll be back, definitely. I'll be back. I'll be fine. Not probably, definitely. Unless I do something wrong in my real life, in which case I'll be quietly dropped.

Anyway, she wakes up in a hospital bed only to discover her mother, who in her normal reality, has passed away. Good reaction, by the way, I thought. She reacted really realistically. That's some good acting, man. Because her mother died during the blip while she was blipped. And her mother happened to be wearing a blanket. Yeah, that's right.

Over her superhero costume. That's exactly right. So anyway, she's like, oh, my mother, you're alive. But then it turns out that in this reality, Lashana Lynch's character did not have a kid, but instead she got the powers of Captain Marvel and she's binary. Not the other movie where she got the powers of Captain Marvel. Yeah, it's a different one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, and then Monica Rambeau, Photon or whoever, is attended to by Dr. Hank McCoy, Beast. Oh, my God, who's he played by? It's hard to say. Yeah. Sort of Kelsey Grammer, but not. It's a different design.

He's all CGI. What's going on there? The design's from the 90s cartoon, what it seems. Well, not just that, but like various comic books. So here's a question for you, James. Is it the X-Men 3 universe? No. No, it's not.

But, again, in this, a few years ago, if they'd thrown this in, people would be like, oh, my God, what's happening? Is this how they're going to introduce the X-Men? What's going on? I avoided the spoiler, and then before the movie, I Googled, like, is there a post-credits? And it's like, Hank McCoy's in the post-credits played by Kelsey Grammer. I'm like, God damn it.

I'm a moron. Is it Kelsey Grammer, though? It's his voice. Is it, though? And sort of his face. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, because if you don't know, people probably know, but he played Beast in X-Men 3.

It's not a great movie, but he's a great choice. Yeah. And he also appears in Days of Future Past like very briefly at the very end. He's like Logan. And is he also in a Deadpool? Is he in Deadpool 2? No, they use the other one. Oh, yeah.

They use Young Beast. Young Beast, yeah. No, I think like the CGI is not great. No. But yeah i know i i think like the cgi is not great no but the design i i like yeah i like so i guess my question is to you oh okay no it's not the x-men 3 universe mason i already answered not my question james do you think this is how they're going to introduce yes the x-men they're gonna so this is this is a universe akin to the multiverse of madness yeah parallel universe that Doctor Strange went into, except in this universe,

they weren't all torn to shreds by Scarlet Witch. Yes. But this is a parallel universe. I think this is how they're going to, I think they're going to merge realities and the X-Men are going to be, they're basically just going to drop in everything. They're not going to build up the school

and all the mutants in the 70 years of history. They're just going to fucking dump the whole thing in. I think what is probably going to happen. Like a brain transplant. So for people who don't know, in the comic books, there's the modern-day Secret Wars comic. Yeah. Is it the Beyonder?

He takes a bunch of realities and he smashes them all together into one world. Fuck, man, I don't know. Well, that's probably what happens. Anyway, I think they're probably going to do something similar to that using Kang or the Beyonder or Doctor Doom. Deadpool 3, et cetera. Deadpool 3, et cetera.

And then if I had to guess, I would say, and I do, I don't. You have to. I have to, though. I'm going to say that at the end of Secret Wars, they're going to cut off access to all the other parallel multiverse realities because it's too much work. I think they might do a Crisis on Infinite Earths where they destroy all the alternate earths and they go,

well, that's the end of that. We did it. But the one reality that's left has been changed. Yes. And it's probably that they've taken some of the – all the mutants have been put on the regular earth and then they just – I think they're probably also going to do – they're probably going to do everybody remembers the universe. Everybody remembers everything? No, I think they're probably also going to do – they're probably going to do Everybody Remembers the Universe.

Everybody Remembers Everything? No, I think they're going to do – Or it's like a blip situation where it's like an awful like sudden – No, I think they're going to do Reality Gets Altered. The X-Men have always been there and everybody remembers it like that. Okay, sure. I think that's probably how they're going to do it. All right.

Yeah. That's exciting. It's very exciting. Are you excited? I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah. I'm big Kev excited very exciting. Are you excited? I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah. I'm big Kev excited.

You know what the beast thing reminds me of? You're big Kev excited. That's a local reference. Thank you. But it reminded me. You are hungover. I am. You didn't.

Okay. I didn't think it was brilliant what you said. Yeah. You must be hungover. Because you didn't think the big Kev reference that I've done probably hundreds of times before in our life was not the best thing you've ever heard. So you must be hungover and also drunk. I am.

I think that you can't be both, can you? But I think that, oh, God, what was I saying? You were big Kev excited is what you were saying. Oh, God, I'm completely. Reality? Reality, something. X-Men universe, they're going to combine them all? Yeah.

And then they're going to never mention it again. Because I think that is the only way forward, not only just because multiverses played out and people hate them now, I think. If they hate them, they're bad. Yeah, but also because – Invincible is doing it. Yeah, because you can't – it's difficult to have stakes if you can just go,

well, my mother died in this universe, but she's alive in another universe, so let's just – This wasn't the thing I was going to say, but it's part of the thing I was going to say. I think also that will lead into like the soft reboot they're probably going to do where they can recast a bunch of people yeah and be like this is new iron man this is new thor whatever whatever they and keep some and not others and get people for cheap and lock them into nine years worth of movies shows and whatever yeah so that's where they're going to go from

there but honestly like the contracts now will say we will lock you into nine movies or until our ai has scanned you enough that it can do a passable replica of you and then you're out. Absolutely. Yeah. Have you watched Fraser No Mates yet, the new series? No, no, no. Yeah, Fraser, but none of his mates are here.

No, have you? No. Okay. Why would I? I was going to say. Anyway, I've got some reviews here. This one's from Will who says, This was a good week for Marvel.

The final of Loki season two was spectacular and a great wrap-up for Hiddleston's journey. And the Marvels ended up being an incredibly fun and refreshing movie. Good times, best movie slash TV show ever. The Nick Abide says, the Marvels was just fine. It's not the worst Marvel movie, but not the best either. I really liked the three leads,

especially Aman Valani, the cameos and the neat mid-credits scene. But the action story and villains were just generic in my opinion. Vinton says, wait, so why exactly are people hating on the Marvels? The switching was always fun, although less inspired each time, which is normal. And it's one of the funnier MCU movies in years,

especially that one Fury line when someone lands. Best movie. What was that? I don't remember that. I don't know. James H. I just don't know. Yeah.

And E-O-G-H-A-N. How do you spell that? How do you say that? How was it? E-O-G-H-A-N. How do you spell that? How do you say that? How was it? E-O-G-H-A-N. Yoan? Yoan, yeah, okay. The Marvels was unfortunately too generic for me to enjoy.

Villani's charm and switching places dynamic wasn't enough to distract from the fact that it was clearly butchered by Feige in post. Oh, Feige shot. Oh, Feige did it personally. Leaving much to be desired. Worst movie ever. But I would say like for most of the reviews that people have sent us, I put some like more like negative ones here, but I'm pretty positive yeah I've noticed that so far as well it could build

over time I don't think it will but um no yeah I mean a lot of a lot of Twitter reactions I've seen have just been like it was fun yeah go to Disney wait for Disney plus or whatever yeah anyway should we move it along uh yes movies yeah what's next Deadpool 3 is that the next thing no it's what we read and what we're gonna to read. No, no, no. I mean in terms of the next Marvel property movie, Mason. Oh. Unless we, are the Expendables movies set in the MCU? They might be. They could be.

Yeah, they could be. Yeah. Maybe Sly wants to sell them. Maybe he does. He is in the MCU, isn't he? Yeah. He's fucking, what's his fucking face or whatever, isn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's that guy. Yeah. He's that guy. Maybe Vance Astro? Sakaar? No. Sakaar. No.

Let me check. I think he's Vance Astro? Sakaar? No. Sakaar. No. Let me check. I think he's Vance Astro. Sly Stallone MCU. He plays. Yes. We voiced King Shark in Suicide Squad, which you didn't know. I do know everything. Yeah, he plays Sakaar Ugaard.

Oh, all right. Ugaard? Ugaard. What's happened to Ugaard? There's a reality show. He's got a reality show. It's called The Family Stallone. Okay.

Do they have a boxing reality show? Like to the Family Stone? Is that what you're saying? Well, that's going to say because the band is called Sly and the Family Stone, right? Right, okay. So clearly they've gone Sly and the Family Stallone, but then somebody's lawyer's gone, well, we can't have it.

People will confuse the band for this reality show we're doing, so we're just going to have to call it The Family Stallone. Perfect. Yeah, that is perfect. That was what I was getting at. It's perfect. All right, should we move it along? Yes.

What to? What we're reading. What we're going to read. Yes. I'm doing the thing. Here we are. We're in this segment. This is what we talk about while we're reading.

You better believe it. Do you want to talk about... You've got a thing we want to recommend first. I've got a bunch of things, actually. Yeah, but do the thing first. All right. Listener of the show. Yes.

Lockie Ross. What? Has a video series, a web series. So do I. It's on Grouse House. Ours is called Caravan of Garbage. James, you've asked me to do the thing and then you're interrupting the thing.

I just feel like I would love to get in some self-promotion. And I'm loving it, is what I'm saying. I'm loving that. I like he emailed a few weeks ago. He was like, do you want to come to the premiere of my web series? And we said no. Did we? No, we were both busy.

I didn't. I also, I just want to point out, I didn't know about this until before the show. Okay, right. Because you went to the Weekly Planet email and I did not check that email. Okay, great. Anyway, it's on Grouse House,

which is Auntie Donna's YouTube, second YouTube channel, where they're doing kind of like emerging artists and web series and all sorts of interesting stuff. It's a good series. It's very funny. Absolutely. Where can I find that?

What was the name of it, just to be clarified? It's called How To Be Wellness. Yeah, it's really fun. But if you just want to go to Grouse House TV on YouTube, it's all on there it's very funny absolutely where can I find that what was the name of it just to be clarified it's called How To Be Wellness it's really fun but if you just want to go to Grasshouse TV on YouTube it's all on there that's right it features some of our

favourites you'll see Ben Russell you'll see Rodden Kelly Rodden yeah absolutely really funny and it's also like

even though he emailed and whatever this is already a great thing that we knew about we already knew we already knew get off our backs so yeah definitely check it out one of the we talked about this We already knew. We already knew. Get off our backs, Scott. So, yeah, definitely check it out.

One of the – well, we talked about this before the show, but pretending not to see someone you know is a great start. A great concept. I agree. Yeah. It's my entire life. Maybe we should check that out, I think. Also, on YouTube, I've been watching a YouTube channel called

The Bad Movie Bible. Are you familiar with this? No. So there's a book called The Bad Movie Bible. Okay. And it's about, as you might imagine, movies that are so bad. Movies about the Bible. Exactly.

That's right. That Charlton Heston one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Russell Crowe Noah movie. The one where Jesus gets beaten to death for four and a half hours with Mel Gibson directing. Yep, all those ones. The classics.

All the greats. But anyway, it's by a film critic called Rob Hill, and he also has a YouTube channel called The Bad Movie Bible where he talks about bad movies. He has a series called Borrowing Blockbusters. Borrowing Blockbusters? Borrowing Blockbusters. Okay.

And each episode is about, like, every movie from around the world that he's copying, like, aliens, or every movie around the world that copied Die Hard, for example. And they're really interesting. Die Hard 2. Die Hard 2, for example, you know. Yeah. All that stuff. And they're really interesting. Die Hard 2. Die Hard 2, for example, you know. Yeah. All that stuff.

That's a good idea. I like that. But, yeah, I think they're like knockoffs of Aliens, Aliens, Star Wars, you know, and so on and so forth. Yeah, absolutely. So it's fun because, you know, and a lot of them are like straight to video. Yeah, sure. And a lot of them are like from, you know, China or India or Hong Kong.

It's like it's Alien Superman, whatever. Exactly. But I think they're really interesting. I think they're not. I think they're not checking them out interesting having not seen this i don't think it's interesting okay great uh and i've watched some episodes of loki but i'm still too behind did you want to spoil like that's what you're all about you're all about spoiling loki fuck it let's do it okay then great normally we do a video on this but who cares at this point wow um i thought it was a pretty strong series though all in all i don't know if i enjoyed as much as the first series, but I will say that it does feel like,

maybe I did, it does feel like that, because the creatives behind it have said, this is supposed to be two series and this is the story, and it definitely feels like that. Okay. There is an open-endedness to the end of it, like certain elements of things and people that could show up,

but it really feels like, no, this was like, this wasn't a wishy-washy kind of whatever and we'll fix it in post and I don't know, we'll change the ending at the last minute to a big punch up on the sun or something. Well, that would be awesome. It would be awesome. It would be awesome and epic.

But it ends like in a couple of interesting ways. One, this variation on Loki, who's not the original Loki because the original Loki dies. People know this, I assume. So this guy. But he's basically the original Loki because the original Loki dies. People know this, I assume. So this guy. But he's basically the original Loki because he watched a video about the original Loki's life and he went, oh, I'm up to speed now. And I've learned all the moral lessons he learned.

I have empathy and I'm alive. Two things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So at the end, so basically it turns out that he who remains, one of the Kangs, you know, the guy that they killed in the first end of the series, the guy that they killed in the first series, he knew that was going to happen and basically got stuck in this kind of perpetual time loop where Loki harnessed

his time-skipping powers where he'd go to any point in time and stop time and do all sorts of time-related things. So Loki's trying to go back and basically fix the timelines from collapsing in on themselves. But in doing so, like, the ultimatum is, like, he has to stop who remains from being killed. Okay. And that guy knew that.

Like, he always knew that even though Sylvie stabbed him, that Loki would have to come back and save him at some point. Okay. But Loki figures out that because he's a big-time god that he basically changes the whole multiverse thing and he grabs all the different timelines and he reignites them and then he has a big Loki gown and outfit and hat.

Okay. And he wraps all the kind of time things. Are you just reading from the script? Yeah. These are all the things that old Wilson is saying towards the end of the show. And then he sits in the middle of- He's got a gown and a hat.

Wow. And he sits in a big time tree and all the timelines are around him. So Loki's role in the universe now, or this version, is like the guardian of the multiverse. Okay, sure. And in doing so also, he basically circumvented everything that Kang and various Kangs were trying to do. Well, isn't that convenient?

Well, it also says at the end that, like, I think we've fixed all the Kang stuff. Terrific. But maybe. What do you mean by that? Because they go, all the Kang variants are being watched and under control. That's convenient.

And we got this. All infinite of them. All infinity of them. Yeah, they got it. Oh, that's great. And Victor Timely, they stop him from getting the TVA book, so none of that happens. Okay, all right.

So he doesn't get turned into spaghetti. Yeah, but he's also, well, he does. In the last episode he gets spaghetti fight again. Thousands of times or whatever. Yeah, there's a lot. It's interesting the way they play with time in the last episode because the first thing Loki tries to do is, like, use the Victor Timely device to set it within the multiverse thing and, like, redirect the flow.

Okay. And he's, like, he's trying to figure out how to do it and he, like, doesn't have enough time. So he says to Kei Kwan's character, can you teach me about, like, astrophysics or whatever? How long did this take? And he's, like, I don't know, like, a lifetime. And Loki's, like, great.

So Loki goes back in time and learns, like, a lifetime's worth of, like, astrophysics. Oh, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey star. Yeah, basically. But it happens in, like, a second. Like, it just cuts to the next second. That's what happens in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. Yes, exactly.

They go and learn how to play guitar. Anyway. And they come back with big long beards. Anyway, it doesn't work. But it's fun. Like it's just all these, he spends like who knows how much time like trying to fix it at different points. Houndhog Day style.

It's really fun. Okay. So, yeah, if you were like maybe down on Captain Marvel or like, you know, which again we weren't. Or just a sad sack generally. Yeah. Then this is, I think this is a. Okay.

This clearly, again, like they thought about it. It feels like two seasons. It feels like the end of, like it could be the end of Loki. It won't be, but it could be the end of Loki. Do you feel like Sylvie got a little bit underused in the second season? I'd say so, yeah. And it's a wig. I found out I saw it on Instagram.

It's a wig. Who are you talking to? You. Who are you talking about? Sylvie, it's a wig. Oh. It's a mullet wig. Okay. Yeah. that i think that's great oh it tricks me you couldn't see the hairline yeah yeah that's how they just kept a marvel wearing a wig by the way

yeah but i know i thought it was really good and kang is dead maybe depending what happens in real life yeah so what do you think of that mason you're gonna watch it or are you just gonna i'll finish it off yeah Yeah, you should. It's fun. It's a good aesthetic. Also, you described it badly, so I still have no idea what happened. I described it perfectly, Mason. I think everybody will... You got a wig and a gown.

So, thanks for the spoilers. He didn't have a wig. He had a hat. He had a big time hat, probably. Okay, sure. Yeah. So, anyway, Loki's... Loki, use the time hat. Okay. Anyway, so he's sitting in a tree. Okay, great.

Is it the world tree? Yes, I'm going to weird out. I don't fucking know. You know. I don't, Mason. I don't and it doesn't matter. Okay. You watching anything else?

You don't and it does matter. I've started listening to Matthew Perry's autobiography. Oh, yeah? You've listened to Matthew Newton's autobiography. Is, yeah? You listened to Matthew Newton's autobiography. Is that what you said? Matthew Perry. You said Matthew Newton. No, I said Matthew Perry.

No. I did. Why would you listen to Matthew Newton's autobiography? What am I doing? I don't know. That's a local reference. Because he's terrible is what I'm saying. Not Matthew Perry.

Yeah, because I don't know if you know, this is not an ad for Spotify. Yeah. But if you're on Spotify Premium, you get 15 hours of free audio books a month. Sick. Yeah. It's not a ton, admittedly. You don't think it's enough? But it's, you know, it'll do.

Yeah, it'll do, will it? I think what happened is they were like, hey, we've got audio books and you can buy them. And people went, we're not interested. And they went, what if we give you some free stuff? Yeah. People were like, okay, now we're interested. Now we're not interested at all. Yeah.

Okay, cool. And he narrates it? He does, yeah. Yeah, yeah, cool. It's interesting. It's very, you know, you understand how he got into the space he got into. Absolutely. Oh, yeah, you were telling me before the show.

It's some pretty fucked up stuff, man. Yeah. Tell you what. Whoa. Should we move it along? Yeah, it's time for lettuce. Let's do it. I'm going to do this through my new phone.

Let's see how it works. Letters. Let's do it. I'm going to do this through my new phone. Let's see how it works. Probably worse. Let's find out. The classic one was Letters. Jesus. Mel Gibson's Jesus, that was loud. We're going to hear it right now. We're going to do Letters.

Not an ad. Yeah. That's an insane speaker. Ah. What are you doing? I don't know. I clicked the wrong thing. Get your phone in check.

It's doing the Michael Bay Transformers series Caravan of Garbage. Get your ducks in a row. That, that, every point of this phone is a speaker. Like, I'm like, ah, it's coming out of every point. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. It's like vomiting from both ends.

That's right. Wait. That doesn't matter. Mason, this is the latest segment of the show. If you do want to reach us through our hashtag, WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter. That's right. Do you have any Gmails?

Oh, I've got some Gmails. Or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. I've got all that stuff. Why are you doing that? I can do this one if you want. Okay, great. This is from iWatchStuff who says, hashtag weeklyplanetpod, the thing I loved about Loki season two,

that they clearly had an idea of what the story wanted to tell, of the story they wanted to tell, how they wanted to tell it, and then actually did it. You can't tell a story like this without actually planning, which is what has been missing from Marvel lately. So true. Great point. Big time.

It's from Donald. Yes. Subject line, making my brother feel bad. Oh, I have a brother, not you. I have two other brothers. Wow. Well, this is very relatable. Donald says, I'm a big sandwich subscriber,

and at times I have thought about giving my brother, who is not a big sandwich subscriber, my login information so he can download content. However, I've refrained from doing so because I would not feel right about it. I've enjoyed your content since 2015 when I saw your cancelled Batman vs Superman animated video. Oh, yeah. Sean Willett's animation. Yeah, that's right. Since I've been a subscriber to Big Sandwich, I've enjoyed many hours of additional content.

Can you please tell my brother that this is his message to subscribe and enjoy without being a freeloader? You can do that. Also, we don't care. You can give it to him. You can give to him uh but speaking of here's another email from lewis lewis hey james and or may so how's it going but we do appreciate the support and your brother is a freeloader that's true that is correct probably freeloader in other aspects of your life definitely why you brought this up sometimes you might go to the fridge and you're out of margarine guess what your brother did that that's right yeah you because he's put a big sticker on there says i owe you yeah margarine, guess what? Your brother did that. That's right. Yeah. Because he's put a big sticker on there that says IOU. Yeah.

Margarine, but I'll never pay it back. Gotcha. Gotcha. My name's Lewis from South Wales. I've been listening to the pod for about three years. It's gotten me through many a work day. I love work. I'm studying games art in university and recently found out that someone

in my class also listens to the pod. This made me jump up in the air and do a little heel click with glee as I now have someone to talk about the pod with. Oh, delightful. Just wanted to say thanks for getting me through the last three years and for keeping me up to date with the latest red-hot comic book movie news. P.S. I would also be really interested in seeing you two play through Five Nights at Freddy's at some point.

Whoa. As two people with very little exposure to the games. Funny, you should say that. It is funny, isn't it? This week at BigSandwich.co, we did a Five Nights at Freddy's playthrough. But also, yeah, I got fucking jump scared in it. Boy, did you ever. Which I was not expecting.

Because, yeah, anyway, that's BigSandwich.co. We do video game Let's Plays there, as mentioned, and that one's up there. Yes. If you give a flip. I do give a flip. I know you do. Very much give a flip. Yeah.

I got one here from Jeremy who says hey guys hashtag with the fun of pod with the Doctor Who 60th okay that's already sounding very sarcastic hey guys hey guys

with the Doctor Who 60th anniversary quickly approaching I was wondering if you'd cover the multi-doctor comic the four doctors for the book club

that or any of the multi-doctor stories could be good I would yeah I've never read any Doctor Who comics would you do that Mason?

I would do that I put it tentatively in the Big Sandwich file. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The four Doctor Whos. Okay. Which four Doctors is it?

Probably the first four. Yeah, you're probably right. The most boring four. William Hartnell, another guy, another guy. William Hartnell again. Another guy. The fourth guy. Yeah.

What am I doing? Like a stagehand in a wig. Yep, yep. Because William Hartnell wasn't there. Wasn doing? Like a stagehand in a wig. Yep. Because William Hartnell wasn't there. So they put him in a cloak. Wasn't the fucking something, didn't that happen? Yeah, absolutely. Somebody owns the rights to the original Doctor Who or something.

Something like that. And he doesn't like that the new Doctor Who's woke or something. So he's like, I'll never allow you to have Doctor Who on the. Oh, I thought he was doing it for like like other reasons no there's a guy somebody owns the way that ownership and writing for tv stuff works in england is different to other places and i if i remember correctly the some of one of the original doctor who serials is owned by the son of the original writer okay and he's like everything's too woke and I won't allow you to put it on TV or whatever. That would never allow that to happen now, like a writer to hold the rights to something like that. God damn.

Anyway, God bless this man. He's doing the Lord's work. Here's one more email. Yeah. This is from Jordan. Finding new comics to read. Hey guys, been listening to the show off and on since my last year of high school and I'm now five years into my first full-time job.

Well, congratulations. Happy birthday. You're very welcome. I can feel myself becoming less like Mason and more like James every day. Nice. What does that mean? That's what happens to you. That's true, actually.

I feel myself becoming more like James every day too. And I feel like a worse version of myself. Oh, no. Yeah. Does that mean one day I'll feel like a worse version of you? Yes. Oh, no. But I'll be dead.

Oh, then that's great. Jordan says, you both always seem to have a different comic series you've started reading or are continuing to read, and I was wondering how you manage to keep up with what's coming out and how you find as many things as you do to read. A lot of it is recommendations. Yeah. A lot of it's from you.

You're like, did you read this? And I'm like, no, and then I read it. Interesting. Yeah. You know what I do? A few things. On the Planet Broadcasting Great Mace Facebook group. Oh, that's a good one.

Someone, and I don't have their name here, but thank you for doing this. Who are you? Every week they put up like a new comic book release post. Because they come out Wednesdays normally. Yeah, and it's basically just a bunch of covers of what is coming out that week. Yeah. And I just look at the interesting covers and i go that looks pretty interesting yeah and a lot you know it could be dc stuff

or marvel but it's also like independent stuff and image and all that sort of stuff and generally i just go buy the covers yeah what i often do is i'll you're a simple man i'm a simple man i'm a simple turn and i will just look at the covers and go that's cool and maybe i'll google it and and see if it's something interesting. There's other recommendations. If you want to follow Comic Tropes on Twitter, it's also on YouTube, but he will often go, he'll put up a photo, new comic day, here's what I got, and I'm like, I trust his recommendations.

That would be good. So whatever he's reading. Yes, yes. Also Casually Comics on YouTube. Oh, yep, okay. Her name's Sasha, I think, and she recommends comics a lot of the time like that i think i'm subscribed to her yeah uh but yeah that's that's and often just twitter

will it'll just just stuff will pop up if it's working we'll just pop up like an interesting thing yeah and subscribe to casually comics yeah nice good good um just all that stuff yeah just all the things that you can imagine yeah or just go past your local comic book store and they might have some stuff in the window. Pop your head in. Pop your head in. Pop your head in. Pop your head in. Get into an argument with the clerk who works there.

Yeah. About Frank Miller or whatever. That's right. They love that. In Melbourne we have Comics R Us in the city and we also have Minotaur, which is kind of a, you know. Yeah. And we have Toys R Us.

We do not have Toys R Us. Don't we? No. We should get that. Okay, great. You reckon? Yeah. Yeah, man.

Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, a lot of the time, and it's not the best way to do it, like I'll just go to Comixology, which is a website they have absolutely broken. And see what's on the front page? Just have it poke around. Yeah.

Well, I don't even go to the front page. I go to like, well, like what's out this week, and I go through like the extensive list. And normally in the middle there's like 100 romance anime comics. Okay. Like just a block that you've got to like just scroll through. And gonna be wrong i love romance i was gonna say not in my comic books yeah uh i got another one here go on and it's actually a big deal okay actually no it's not it's a small deal no it's just a medium-sized deal medium-sized deal it's from william robinson

who says hashtag weekly panapod hi james and. That's us. Congrats on flying past episode 500. My friend's going to Melbourne and Sydney for a few weeks. Told her to watch out for a bearded man on trams. Do you have any essential food drink recommendations? Bear in mind she loves milkshakes specifically. Thank you. Well, a milkshake might be. I would start there.

Get a milkshake from a milkshake store. Yeah. Get a McDonald's milkshake. Get a McDonald's thick shake and wait for it to melt. Exactly. And then it's a milkshake. And then throw it at a car. Throw it at a car.

That's what I assume she's – when they say loved milkshakes, I assume they mean throw it at cars. Yeah, yeah. And that's a sign of affection in Melbourne. Absolutely. A sign of solidarity, you know. Recently, I've been here a few times, but it's more of a chain thing situation. Is it around the world?

It might be Fonda, like why like it's like of a chain thing situation. Is it around the world? It might be. Fonda I quite like. It's like a Mexican place. It's sort of fast food but it's sort of not and I just like their food. Interesting. It's sort of fast food when I say that because it's actually like genuinely good. Do you like Fonda? Yes.

Good. That's something I went to recently. What would you recommend? You're a man about town. You're always in the city. You're always at Flinders Street Station. I'm always at Flinders Street Station. Dressed as a goth. I was was gonna say hanging out with the gods um

great question uh well at the top of the burke street there's a place called butcher's diner oh yeah in the past uh listener harry works there so that's right yep say weekly planet senior and they'll be like what are you talking about harry's not on today yeah you know and you get ejected that's right um there's that meatballs place that's good. Just sells meatballs. It's got like meatballs or whatever in the CBD. There's also a place, it's called Rocco's Bologna. Rocco's Bologna, I guess.

That's on Gertrude Street. That's really good. They'll give you meat, but that's the best meatball sub in the city. Oh, okay. That's what I'm saying. I actually caught up recently with our good friend Hollywood Pete. Oh, yeah. And he recommended- He probably recommended somewhere bloody bougie, didn't he? It was very boug friend Hollywood Pete. Oh, yeah. And he recommended –

He probably recommended somewhere bloody bougie, didn't he? It was very bougie. It was great though. I'm going to find it with the name of it because it was really good. It was called Yakimono. It's on 80 Collins Street and it's Japanese food and they do like amazing drinks. We were drinking whiskey sours together.

Oh, here we go. We did like a Japanese spin on it. Wow. So I would highly recommend that place. That place was fucking unreal. I don't know if they do milkshakes. But they might make it for you, especially if you tell them you're going to throw it in a car.

There's a place in Carlton called Shooter McGavin's. Oh, yeah. Like the guy. Yeah, from the guy. It's a sandwich shop and it's really good. Yeah. They'll do your fish and chip sandwich. Yeah, okay.

Out of this world. Out of this world? That's out of this world. What's the bread made of? Regular bread. What kind of bread? Meteor bread. Meteor bread?

Yep. What does that mean? I don't know. I said it was out of this world, so I sort of had to work. Oh, that's great. I had to do my best there. I didn't know you were doing jokes still. Well, that's my last one, so never again.

Don't worry. Never again. I hope not. Yeah. I think that's the show then. Yeah. Next week, we're doing Hunger Games, baby. Don't worry. Never again. I hope not. Yeah. I think that's the show then. Yeah. Next week we're doing Hunger Games, baby. Oh, yeah.

It's an okay Hunger Games prequel apparently. It's too long maybe. That's what they say. People are saying a lot of stuff. They certainly are. What do you got, Mason, in terms of landing the show? Oh, folks, thank you so much for listening. We very much appreciate it.

We do actually. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends because that's how we get new listeners. And thank you for leaving a five-star review your friends because that's how we get new listeners. And thank you for leaving a five-star review in-app on your podcast catcher of choice. And if you do that, James will read it out probably. That's right. I'll read it out just like this one from A.B.

who says, the irreverent Aussie humor. Discovered your show on YouTube during the pandemic shutdowns in NYC and subsequently the podcast. And I've been living in the States for about 16 years, enjoying the two-year period that I couldn't get back home. It helped me with the homesickness and hanging out and watching movie marathons and talking general nerd-related stuff with my best mate back home. Tune in from NYC every week and love the Aussie banter

back and forth up there with Red Letter Media as my favorite adjacent commentary. Cheers, guys. This one's from Nake Ranger. I love that. He says, nothing bad happened to me listening to this podcast. I've been listening to this show long enough to know that I can definitely say it's good luck. Only good things have happened to me when I listen to Nick and James

argue back and forth like my two dads that have been together for way too long. We're brothers. No, we're not brothers. I only wish I had a passion in my life that James has for Elon. Great podcast and great blogs. I don't like that. He's misinterpreted.

I don't like him. I don't like him in his stupid truck. You do like him, though, don't you? I like that people are going to buy that. I enjoy that. If you're a moron. Check out this meatball sub. Oh, wow.

That's just a porno. Mason's showing me pornos on the podcast, Mason. It's not allowed. It's rude. No, I'm showing you a delicious meatball sub. It's true, he is. That doesn't really matter. I'm going to get one tomorrow.

Anyway. Jeez. Mind your business. We're at the end of the show. I was going to say. Stay out of it. Okay. When did your last lungs die of? whatever you've got now

whatever I've got bloody now mate and then you've got that rich person surgery where you've got somebody else's lungs and put the lungs in you that's right yeah that's great I just do it every week

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Yeah. Like an easily spooked man. I went ah, and then I was embarrassed. Yeah. I was embarrassed for you. Secondhand embarrassment. It's what the kids call cringe. It's true. That's right.

Yeah. And that's the whole show. Next week, Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Woo. Can't wait. We just finished the Hunger Games series on Caravan of Garbage, diminishing returns in terms of views. Oh, no.

But we're starting the MonsterVerse this week. That's right. We're in Godzilla 2014, and we're going to do the four current MonsterVerse movies. I love that. Which has been fun to revisit until we get to some of them, the third one, which is not as fun. It's pretty fun.

It's not as fun, though. Yeah, it's not like woo, is it? No, it's like, okay. Yeah, it's like I think what happened there is Kong Skull Island is fun. It's fun in like a woo way. Yeah. Yeah. And at the end of the first one,

there's the bit where Godzilla tears his fucking head off and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's fun. That's fun. Yeah. That's fun. All right, thanks, everyone. No more fun.

No more fun. No more fun for the week. We don't want that. Grabbed at you, guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke.

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