The Weekly Planet - 505 Madame Web & Three Hour Hunger Games Prequel

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

Huge week for Sony and their universe of Spider-Man movies they consistently threaten us with! The Madame Web trailer is here. Plus we talk What If season 2, the recasting of Kang and a new direction ...for the Avengers movies (plus a hot scoop), Pedro Pascal joins the Fantastic Four probably, an update on Coyote vs Acme, our review of The Hunger Games: The Ballard Of Songbirds & Snakes and more! Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, lets play videos, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:00 Marvel's What If...? S2 Trailer05:12 Garfield & Anyone But You Trailers08:42 Madame Web Trailer21:52 Avengers: Kang Dynasty Hot Scoop (or shot of poop)27:19 Pedro Pascal Fantastic 4 Casting31:16 Superman: Legacy Villain Casting34:20 Coyote vs Acme Controversy Update36:48 The Marvels' Box Office Disaster37:51 Reacher S2 Trailer & Robo Wants An Oreo40:11 The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes Review (spoiler warning 56:46 to 01:01:40)01:01:40 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:05:57 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:09 My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, with me as always is my co-host Nick May. Great to be here. Isn't it just? James, we're having a bit of fun off air. Sure. Which we don't like doing. We don't like doing.
Starting point is 00:01:20 We'd rather not do it, honestly. But you've hit a winner, James. You've named the backup recorder, Recordo Montalban, which I think. That's not anything. No, it's not even a reference anybody gets anymore. He's the guy from Fantasy Island. And he's Khan. Oh, yeah, he's Khan also.
Starting point is 00:01:40 He's the original Khan. He's the original recipe Khan. That's right. So, yeah, big week this week, Mason, because of course we're going to... Because of course you named the backup recorder, Recordo Montalvan. That is a big deal, yes. Big week, that's it. Everyone's talking about it. Wrap it up, folks. That's what we did.
Starting point is 00:01:54 We are going to be talking about three-hour Hunger Game prequel, but before we get to that, we've got a bunch of trailers we've got to look at. Are you choked up because you're so emotional? I'm so emotional, Mason. About Recordo Montalvan. That's right. It's good to change lives, you know? Yeah. Often I feel like this doesn't make a difference. Yeah, but I think
Starting point is 00:02:09 this will give people the inspiration, I think, to name things around their house. Absolutely, yeah. Not as good as that. No, obviously not. Yeah, but you can name your table Joe or whatever. Yeah, whatever. Whatever. Just whatever Joe or whatever. Yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Just whatever. Just whatever. Okay, so we've got trailers for What If Season 2, Garfield, that other one, Anyone But You. Look, I don't really want to talk about that. We're going to talk about Madame Web, right? Of course we are, yeah. We're not going to bury the lead here. Everybody wants us to talk about the trailer for the latest entry
Starting point is 00:02:43 in the Spum, the Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel movies. My goodness. A movie that I thought was made up, quite frankly, for tax purposes. But it turns out to be real. Big week for Sydney Sweeney in movies. Absolutely, yeah. In movie trailers, certainly. Because she's in this and she's in Anyone But You.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Exactly. But who cares about that one? Doesn't matter. It'll be fine. That movie will be fine. It'll be fine. It's set in Australia or whatever, I think. We're also going to talk about Kang Dynasty,
Starting point is 00:03:06 the next Avengers movie, being retooled and moving away from Kang and what's going on there because it's lost a director and a writer apparently this week. And there's a whole lot of Marvel casting as well, including Reed Richards and some other names. Maybe. Maybe. Going up for various characters, including Galactus.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Apparently, do you see, Superman as a villain, the lead villain is being cast. We'll talk about that in the next Superman movie. There's been a turnaround on Coyote vs. Acme movie. That's right. The movie that was cancelled for tax purposes and now might be brought back due to. For public relations purposes.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yes, exactly. Well, and people not wanting to work with the Warner Brothers purposes. Yes, exactly. And then we're going to talk a little bit about the Marvels and its second week box office performance. And let me tell you, Mason, it's quite dire. Boy, is it ever, yes. And then we'll talk about three-hour Hunger Games prequel.
Starting point is 00:03:55 All right, Mason, do you want to talk about the What If trailer for the next season? What if? Go on. I thought it looked like a lot of fun. Sure. Let's do it. Who's in it?
Starting point is 00:04:03 There's a Christmas episode. There is a Christmas episode, which seems to be somewhat, that's the funny one. That's kind of Die Hard. Die Hard. Happy Hogan. Happy Hogan and Darcy from the Thor movies is in that one. It looks like this season, again, like the previous one,
Starting point is 00:04:17 it's going to have some unconnected what-ifs, but then they're all maybe going to dovetail into one another. Yep, absolutely. Towards the end. And this one, remember we got that list of what-if episode titles a while back? Yeah. Are they accurate? I don't know if the titles necessarily were, but it seemed like the premises were mostly accurate.
Starting point is 00:04:32 The premises. So we've got one here. I think maybe the biggest one or the one that's most interesting to me is the – I'll try those ahoy. I'll try – Yeah. When, you know, in the Guardians movies, Peter Quill was kidnapped from Earth as a child to be taken to his father,
Starting point is 00:04:47 who was Ego, a living planet. But instead the Ravagers take him on as a Ravager. But there seems to be a what if here where he's taken directly to Ego and then they decide to go back to Earth and, you know, wreck it and stuff. Wreck it and stuff. And so Peter Quill goes back to Earth as a as a teenager but he's got the ego powers and he's gonna cause a ruckus absolutely so like a 1990s yeah ish yeah that seems about early 90s team has to form up which includes uh tachaka the black panther yep for
Starting point is 00:05:17 annette benning's character from captain marvel okay yep it was a cray yep uh others original Okay, yep. Who's a Kree. Yep. Others. Original Ant-Man. Original Ant-Man. Michael Duglay. Mr. Michael Duglay. Yeah. And Hayley Atwell's Peggy Carter as the head of S.H.I.E.L.D. And maybe some other people. Yeah, I don't hate that concept actually. It looks like fun, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:05:35 All right. I was just too excited about the Madame Web thing. It's true, yeah. You're right. There are some good things on display. And they're going to bring these out, I think it's like December 22nd, and they're going to do one a day for nine days. Yeah. Which is a very interesting way to do it. Like the nine 22nd and they're going to do one a day for nine days.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Yeah. Which is a very interesting way to do it. Like the nine days of Christmas, the traditional nine days of Christmas. Traditional nine days. They should do 12, I think, just to tie into Christmas and three of them can just be like, what if this happened? No, it was basically the same. But it didn't. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It was the same? It's basically the same. Here's a clip of that movie. Oh, what if it did but it didn't? Just a guy shooting it down? Yeah, okay. Well, it didn't did, but it didn't? Just a guy shooting it down? Yeah, okay. Well, it didn't, though, did it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I just want to quickly talk about the Garfield trailer because just the design-wise, like they've pushed everybody's eyes together so it's one big goopy eye. Now, somebody pointed this out. I hate it. Look at it. Somebody pointed this out.
Starting point is 00:06:19 You know I hate it also. Yeah. Someone pointed it out on Twitter and it's staggering that I never picked up on this. Maybe it's not because I'm dumb. Let's find out. But that all these animated movies now have a pre, like a prologue where the main character is a little version.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yeah, okay. So you can sell the merch of the little cute version. Yeah, okay, yeah. So, you know. Is it cuter than this version, the Bill Murray version? No. It's very cute. It's got the same texture as the lasagna.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yep, because he ate so much lasagna he turned into a lasagna. Didn't you learn anything from your parents when they said, don't eat so much lasagna, you'll turn into a lasagna? I didn't learn anything from my parents. They made sure of that, Mason. That's right. How do you feel about Chris Pratt's The Garfield? It's just Chris Pratt's voice, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:07:02 But he's Garfield this time. Oh, that's pretty good. That's the twist. That's quite the twist't it? But he's Garfield this time. Oh, that's pretty good. That's the twist. That's quite the twist. And he's got a good agent. He certainly does, yeah. I mean, it's, you know, Chris Pratt, he knows what he's doing. It's Garfield, it's fine. It's Garfield, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:07:15 But it's not like... Who cares? He doesn't have a completely flat affect like a lot of actors who go on to voice acting do. But also, why not just give him... He's not a terrible voice actor either. He's a bunch of voice who go on to voice acting do. But also why not just give him the – He's not a terrible voice actor either. He's a bunch of voice acting. But also why doesn't Garfield have the same Garfield voice he's always had?
Starting point is 00:07:32 The one where he goes – Yeah, exactly. The Bill Murray voice. The Bill Murray voice, exactly. Or the Lorenzo music voice. That's right. It's a fun thing. Yeah, and I guess Anyone But You, which is the big rom-com of the season.
Starting point is 00:07:44 That's right. Rom-coms are back for good. That's right, even though there were several this year and they all bombed. But this is the one that'll do it. This is the one, yeah. Because it's got abs. And we know the story this time around. Yeah, so the premise is, because for people who don't remember,
Starting point is 00:07:58 the last trailer was a little bit disastrous in the sense that it didn't give anything away. It was all vibes. It was all sexy vibes. It could have been a Mint Mobile commercial. It could have been a Mint Mobile commercial. But this one, so Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeney's characters, they went on a date once. They ultimately decided they didn't like one another.
Starting point is 00:08:18 No. But they're going on a destination wedding, yuck, to Sidney, double yuck. Boo. And it turns out they both, each one of them has somebody there that they need to trick into thinking they're a couple. That's right. So they're going to do that. But what if they fall in love?
Starting point is 00:08:32 I don't think they will. Okay. I think they'll. Fall off the boat and drown? Yeah, I think that's probably what's going to happen. Yeah, okay. I think they'll get with the people they want to get with. I like that.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And that movie will end. That seems, they don't seem like they like each other. That's probably for the best. Yeah, I think so too. To be honest, yeah. Oh, by the way, this time goes below if you're doing a jump to anything. I hope this movie ends with them both
Starting point is 00:08:51 not getting together and then years later they encounter the people they were trying to get with on this farcical vacation and the woman's like, oh, you were trying to make me jealous but you appeared to have a girlfriend so I didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Why would I mean, like, basic societal convention would suggest that I wouldn't try and get with you if you had a girlfriend. It would have been more attractive if you were secure in yourself and weren't chasing anything. That's right. And were just being a cool guy. Or just ask me out on a date like normal, you know? Or maybe you had a cool car.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah, cool car. Yeah, that's the key to anything, isn't it? Or you had abs. Or had abs, yeah. Oh. Oh, my God. Oh. Well, I'm going to jump off this boat then.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Oh, my God. Anyway, forget all that. Don't even worry about it. Because, Mason, next up we've got the fabled, or some even say much maligned, in association with Marvel tag at the start of this trailer. I would say it's a guarantee of badness. Yeah. Bad to fine?
Starting point is 00:09:53 No, bad to less bad, but still bad. So you don't like either of the, I thought you liked one of the Venom movies maybe. It's fine. I mean, I haven't gone back to it. That's what I said, bad to fine. Have we done a commentary on Venom 1? Maybe. See?
Starting point is 00:10:05 We don't know. Did we? It feels like something we would have done. Yeah, but then we didn't. Or we did. Yeah, that's right. So I just don't know. Let me check.
Starting point is 00:10:15 There are people screaming at their iPods right now. They're like, you didn't, you stupid idiots. I don't think we have. Okay. Well, maybe that's next on the list. Yeah. Maybe it'll reignite my love for the Spum universe. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Somebody who's kind enough, Raw Collings actually, of course, who edits this, has put the list up on Reddit, and no, we haven't done it. And if anybody knows, it's him. Yep. We haven't done any Spum, I don't think. Anyways, Mason. So basically, madam.
Starting point is 00:10:42 It's time for the ladies to do some Spum. That's right. Let me just say this, all right? Let me just say this, and we say this a lot. Maybe I say it a lot. Anything basically, madam. It's time for the ladies to do some spam. That's right. Let me just say this, all right? Let me just say this, and we say this a lot. Maybe I say it a lot. Anything can be good. Not this, though. No, wait.
Starting point is 00:10:52 The director of this is S.J. Clarkson. She's directed episodes, mostly TV, but Jessica Jones' Succession, Anatomy of a Scandal was a recent series, which was quite good. She's worked on genuinely good things. Okay. But this is spam we're talking about, so this is going to be terrible. The bar is low, but the standards at the studio are also low. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:10 That's their slogan. That's what it says when you come into their offices. It's above the desk of the receptionist. Just two bars to trip over on your way in, one after the other. In fact, that's all you have to do to get the gig is there's two bars and you just have to hop them. Yeah. No, I think they'd give them to you if you tripped over them.
Starting point is 00:11:28 If you cleared them, they'd be like, absolutely not. Oh, yeah, yeah. We don't do that here. What do you think? You're too good for us? No, but I just went over the get out. Get out. So somebody mentioned that this looks like one of those movies
Starting point is 00:11:40 that was revealed in the Sony hack. Remember they were like, Aunt May is a spy and it's the 70s. Yeah, right. You know, it's like, I don't know. I can't even think of another example. Just terrible nonsense. Yeah, uh-huh. You know?
Starting point is 00:11:53 I mean, because there's like Ben Parker is in this. It's Adam Scott this time around. Which is like, the cast is good. And, you know, even the idea of like there's an evil Spider-Man that they have to defeat. First of all, I was going to say the thing you said earlier, which I was going to make fun of, which is anything can be good. You're right.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And again, the reason the Avengers line up is the way it is in the movies is because those characters didn't sell. And they were just available and they made it work and they got stars that were- They also put them in costumes. They sure did. And individual movies. And they made just a, they made a,
Starting point is 00:12:30 they told some tall tales about them that weren't even real. Yeah. They weren't even real stories about those actors. True. But, you know, so these characters could be good. Yeah. You know, they are all pre-existing Spider-Man characters, which is why Spum gets first crack at it.
Starting point is 00:12:45 But you don't just want to go, let's just make a Spider-Woman movie? Yeah. Like why is it four different Spider-Women? And I can guarantee it because we get glimpses of them in the costumes and whatever, but I reckon that's a look into the future or a bit at the end maybe. No, that's 100% the final battle. Yeah, I don't even think it is.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I would be shocked if that was in the actual movie. The premise is kind of interesting, I thought. I agree. Or at least initially. Also, by the way, this trailer has, I think, pretty much the whole movie in it. So if you don't want to know anything about it, don't watch the trailer or listen to us talk about it right now.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Skip ahead. So Dakota Johnson's character is getting visions. She's got Nicolas Cage's next powers from the movie Next. Or Knowing? No. Maybe it's a combination of Nicolas Cage's next powers and Nicolas Cage's Knowing powers. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah. They're two of his best powers. She's got Next Knowing. So she's receiving visions that there is something. Because she died. She did. She fell into a multiverse maybe? She fell into some water.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah. She's a paramedic. Because Madam Web in the comics is like a woman who's like 90 years old and sits in a big web chair. One of the versions of Madam Web. Okay, calm down, nerd. But I think the current version is a pre-existing, was a spider woman. Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Like one of the spider women like the. But this one has the name of original Madam Web, right? Or she doesn't, I don't know. Madam Web? Yeah, sure. I don't know, man. There's a lot about this that I'm not even going to pretend that I know. But anyway, she was a paramedic because she loves to save lives.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It's very noble. But she drowns and then she comes back with next knowing powers. Yep. Nicolas Cage next knowing powers. Mm-hmm. Nicolas' next knowing powers. And she keeps receiving visions of a Spider-Man-esque character who keeps murdering her and a bunch of other women.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yes. And I thought that was quite interesting. Yeah. Because it's like, you know, if you're in a Spider-Man universe, there'd be weirdo copycats and psychopaths. And this one happens to have actual spider powers, it seems, because. Or at least murder powers. Sure.
Starting point is 00:14:49 But he can jump and swing, maybe. Maybe. Strangle. Sure. But there's a moment where she's like, what's the line? Because her mother is associated, much like this is in association with Marvel, with spider research in the jungle. Ezekiel Sims.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah. He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died, which I think is a line that has been like 80 yards specifically for the trailer. Yeah. I imagine it's probably been patched together from other dialogue in the movie. They've like, but also you don't need this for the. Absolutely not. You don't need it for the trailer.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Why is it in the trailer? He can just be a guy murdering people. What's going on? Yeah. That should be the line. What's going on? Yeah. That should be the line. What's going on? What's going on? Can somebody explain this to me?
Starting point is 00:15:29 Do I have the knowing powers or the next powers? Well, he was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died. Yeah, man. So there. Yeah, so there. And he wants to kill all the spider women because he also has the Nicolas Cage next to knowing powers, I think. Maybe. Or she suspects that he does.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And the thing is, every time he goes and kills them, she can see the future and then she can go in and circum I think. Maybe. Or she suspects that he does. And the thing is, every time he goes and kills them, she can see the future and then she can go in and circumvent that. Maybe. And then she's constantly on the run using the Nicolas Cage next to Knowing Powers, which is quite good. Also, I think this was said in the 90s. I don't know. It's hard to say, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:15:56 It might be. Because if it's... It's like Ben Parker's like, oh, he's a bit old. But nothing about it. But nothing suggests, like nothing in the... No, there's a computer. There's like a 90s-ish. But nothing suggests, like nothing in the... No, there's a computer. There's like a 90s-ish computer. Okay, I was going to say nothing about the clothing or whatever
Starting point is 00:16:09 gives any suggestion. No, it's just a red leather jacket and civvies on everyone else. Yeah. But I think it... We all know each other. We're connected like a web. Oh, you know each other like knowing? That's the first clue that it's the knowing powers,
Starting point is 00:16:23 not the next powers, isn't it? A bunch of things. I saw a little clip of Dakota Johnson. She was like, I've always loved Marvel movies. Okay. No, you haven't. Settle that. And if you did, you wouldn't do this. You wouldn't do this. Avoid this specifically. You'd do it. It's okay. But I get also, like, we'll talk
Starting point is 00:16:40 about Rachel Zegler later in this episode. But I guess women can't just say it's a job like it's like i wanted the job they offered me the job they said you look like this character you want eight million dollars yeah you look like this character from the comic books do you want to do this job you're a good actor whatever yes i'll take it you can't say that because people will get mad at you but whereas they won't if you're a male actor and just be like job's a job yeah like tony gilroy who's a job and I love it.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah, like Tony Gilroy who's doing like Andor is like, I fucking hate Star Wars. He says that in every interview and we love him for it. Yeah, I was trying to ruin it. I was trying to ruin it with politics because Star Wars has never had politics in it so I decided I'd inject some politics in it and they'd fire me and ruin Star Wars. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:17:21 But I accidentally made the best joke. Oh, god damn it. Anyway, what were we talking about? Madame Web. Yeah. We could do a whole episode on Madame Web, the trailer, I think. Oh, dude. But I accidentally made the best joke. Oh, God damn it. Anyway, what were we talking about? Madam Web. Yeah. We could do a whole episode on Madam Web, the trailer, I think. Oh, dude. Maybe we're going to.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I mean, yeah, the movie we probably will. Probably won't. Don't you think? No, I don't think we will. What are you doing on Valentine's Day 2024 when this comes out? I'm delivering big boxes of heart-shaped chocolates to people and then I'm going to have to deal with the police arriving and so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:17:44 This is a very romantic date for a Spider-Man movie. Absolutely it is, yeah. What were we talking about? It feels flat. Like all the dialogue feels really flat. It's so weird, yeah. And it's like, I mean, again, it's a trailer. The chemistry is like often weird and stilted and it's.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Oh, that's what we were going to say. So it's probably set in the 90s because my guess would be she's going to receive a premonition that Ben Parker is going to. Peter Parker at some point? Well, yeah, he's going to get Peter Parker or they have to, you know, he has to live to raise Peter Parker to become Spider-Man. So they have to save him and he's going to get Final Destination. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:21 But she's going to use her next knowing powers to figure out how to stop that. Okay, gotcha. Because so the villain is a guy called Ezekiel Sims. Yes. As I understand. And he was part of that totem storyline in the Spider-Man. Which is that? So pre-Spider-Verse with all the Spider-Man vampires and et cetera.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Sure. The premise was. Morlan. Yeah, Morlan. Yeah. Morlan will be in the end creditsMan vampires and et cetera. Sure. The premise was. Morlin. Yeah, Morlin. Yeah. Morlin will be in the end credits. Oh, my God. And it will have to be something to do with Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah. If I had to guess. You thought you had the next knowing powers. Well, I've got them even bigger. And I'm a vampire, I think. Yeah, man. You'd agree, won't you, Vulture, who never lifts his mask to show that it's Michael Keaton?
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah. What about you, Morbius? I'm Morbius. I'm a different type of vampire. Oh, yeah, he's a vampire too. But when we're hanging out, even though you're clearly a villain and I'm Morbius and I'm a hero in this universe. Because we're building towards the worst Sinister Six
Starting point is 00:19:21 combination of people. Yeah, we got Morlin. Yeah, we got him. We've got evil Spider-Man and Jared Leto's Morbius. And another evil Spider-Man. We got Venom. And we got Toxin or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:35 We got Toxin. Toxin's there. That's something to do with Spider-Man, I imagine. No doubt. Yeah. Anyway, so Ezekiel, so there was the premise a few years ago. I say a few years ago, probably 15 years ago. They tried to retcon Spider-Man's origin to change his powers slightly.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Okay. So the idea was that it wasn't the radioactive spider that altered Peter Parker's DNA that gave him spider powers. It was that there were like a supernat there are like supernatural totems in the form of animals and they can transfer their powers to you via magic can i just say something go on i fucking hate this pretty good right and so the idea was that this there was a spider that wanted to give its powers to peter parker okay and it had to do it because they couldn't speak english couldn't speak english and also was dying because the radiation but that was
Starting point is 00:20:24 unrelated okay so then it bites peter parker and it gives him the spider powers yep but then i do it because the fact- But it couldn't speak English. Couldn't speak English and also was dying because of the radiation, but that was unrelated. Okay. So then it bites Peter Parker and it gives him the spider powers. Yep. But then I guess because the spider powers didn't entirely translate, which is why he doesn't, he can't shoot his own webs. He has to build the web shooters. But then he went- Remember around the time when he became organic web shooter Spider-Man?
Starting point is 00:20:40 So he got cocooned and when then he came out, he held organic web shooters. And I think he's back to normal now. He is, yeah. Normal-ish. He sealed them up. He hot glued them and shot. That's exactly right. He used Sully's No More Gaps.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Gross. Corked up all his holes. So gross. Anyway, so this is one of those totem guys. And he's got Spider-Man powers because of magic. And maybe he ate some spiders. I don't know. He was working in the jungle with his mother.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ran into a spider. I'm not even entirely sure he's a bad guy in the comic books because I didn't read any of this because it's bad. Yeah, sure. Well, it could be really good. You can't pass that judgment. You should read it all and then tell me whether it's bad because I'm not going to read it because I think it's bad.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Anyway, he's that guy because he's available, I guess. Well, he just but again anything can be good yeah but again as as an idea i thought it was quite i thought they were like oh this is a sort of final destination horror they're gonna you know it's it's them attempting to survive this this supernaturally strong spider-man type character that's a bit of fun yeah but i think it's going to degenerate into where they all get spider powers at the end and they beat him up. I don't think they're going to do the suits because one of them's got like the metal arms and that. And where are you even getting those at this point, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:54 What are they going to? Totems. No, it's magic. It's magic. Sorry. Is it? Sorry, I don't make the rules. It's magic.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I hate. All right, cool. Look, I tell you, I give Spum this. Yes? You're keeping me on my toes. I never know what you're going to do. Right? I never thought this was real, but it's real, man.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Okay, so it's Sydney Sweeney, Celeste O'Connor, and Isabella Merced, as Julia Carpenter, Maddie Franklin, and Anya Corazon. Cool. Which you think is Spider-Woman, different Spider-Woman, and Silk, I think. Okay, right, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's going to be magic powers and magic costumes. Well, some spider people are magic, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:31 That's what I'm saying, man. That's what we know. Yeah. God, that's what we know. Anyway, should we move it along? Yes, unless you have anything more to say about. God, it feels like the end of the episode. Should we go to bed and come back tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:22:47 We're going to talk about this. Okay. So Kang Dynasty, which is the first of the next two Avengers movies, might be being retooled to move away from Jonathan Majors as Kang. I have a hot scoop or shot of poop. We can do that too. So when do you want to work that in? Do you want to go through this and then you mention it?
Starting point is 00:23:03 No, you do this. So if you watch the end of Loki, Mason, I don't know whether you have yet, there's very much the end they're like, oh, we got all the Kangs and we're going to get all the Kangs. Don't worry, we're going to keep getting all the Kangs. But according to Deadline, Destin Daniel Cretton, who he's departed the Avengers Kang dynasty and he was set to direct, so instead of that he's going to be working on Shang-Chi 2
Starting point is 00:23:22 and the Wonder Man series, which also might be retooled or cancelled, I don't know. And then according to The Ringer and Joanna Robinson specifically, who wrote the book recently on the MCU and The Rise and etc., and she's had a lot of scoops in relation to this, she said, I heard from somebody recently, the screenwriter Jeff Loveness, who wrote Quantumania,
Starting point is 00:23:39 who was supposed to write the Kang Dynasty. Anyways, it's confirmed. I had it confirmed to me he's no longer working for Marvel. Ask the person why and they said the reason why is because he was all wrapped up with the Kang Dynasty. Anyways, it's confirmed. I had it confirmed to me he's no longer working for Marvel. Ask the person why. And they said the reason why is because he was all wrapped up with the Kang storyline and they are likely going to be moving away from that. Oh. Yeah. Now, James, here is our sometimes repeated segment,
Starting point is 00:23:59 Hot Scoop or Shot of Poop. Love it. Let's go. Our listener provides us with a tip, some behind-the-scenes scuttlebutt, some absolute scandalous material. And we have to, and it might be a hot scoop, but then again, it might be a shot of poop because anybody can email in, obviously, weeklyplanetpot at gmail.com. Correct.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Look, there's some ground rules here. There's a hot scoop, obviously. If it turns out to not be true, you have to do a shot of poop. Yeah. I don't make the rules. But it's never been not true, luckily, so far. That's true, yeah. If it turns out to not be true, you have to do a shot of poop. I don't make the rules. But it's never been not true, luckily. That's true, yeah. We've always been right.
Starting point is 00:24:28 The shot of poop keeps getting bigger. Let's see what this random person has to say. Hang on, there's one more rule, as you well know, James. If this is reported in the real media, as opposed to the fake media, which is us, they have to say that it's from the podcast, The Weekly Planet, and their segment, Hot Scoop or Shot of Poop.
Starting point is 00:24:46 That's right. And if you don't, you're a dog. That's all I'm saying. You can still do it. People will harass you as well. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Which has nothing to do with us. Now, I won't give this person's name.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Okay. But they emailed in and they said Kang Tip, and they provided their IMDB page. Okay. Well, I mean, anybody can do that. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, you know. That's what I'm saying. But they're like, this is to prove I'm legit.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Dear James and Mace, so long time listener, thank you for helping get me through COVID and the more recent world crisis, the WGAS SAG strike. You're welcome. We were administering those shots and picketing every day. That's exactly right. While working on the movie Devotion, which you recall is the Glenn Powell, Jonathan Majors
Starting point is 00:25:24 fighter pilot fighter pilot movie. Yeah. While working on the movie Devotion, which you recall is the Glenn Powell, Jonathan Majors. Fighter pilot. Fighter pilot movie. Yeah. While working on the movie Devotion, I was friends with one of Jonathan Majors' people during our filming JM closed the Kang deal. I remember asking said friend about it and they shared some details, X number of movies, X number of dollars.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And more interestingly, due to the nature of the character and potential multiple versions, JM had a contract clause stating that only he could play any and all versions of Kang. Oh, that's interesting. This likely explains why the rumors are dumping Kang for Doom instead of recasting. Yeah. Because as we know, Kang is a multiverse guy and he could be anything. Yeah. Like he could be anyone.
Starting point is 00:25:59 He could just recast immediately. He could be a lizard. Yeah. They could just go, oh, time travel shenanigans. He looks like this now. Yeah. So. That's very interesting. If could be a lizard. Yeah, they could just go, oh, time travel shenanigans, he looks like this now. Yeah. So. That's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:07 If true. If true. Yeah. If true. Anyway, that's our hot scoop or shot of poop. But I guess there'd also be a clause of like. There would be a. If it was proven that like it was something like that he did something
Starting point is 00:26:19 that came out. Yeah. Then that would issue make this all void. There would be. It's going to be a while to get to that point though, right? It would be a morals clause, I guess. Like don't bring the – But that's pretty – like why fight that when you could just move away?
Starting point is 00:26:35 That's true, yeah. It would be like a don't bring the company into disrepute kind of situation. Again, I mean maybe lawyers are working on both. Maybe one side is like one way and the other side is like a different way. Yeah, yeah. Some would suggest that I lost my train of thought in the middle of that sentence. No, no, no. I didn't think so.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah, seamless, right? It was absolutely beautiful and seamless. If I were a Hollywood screenwriter, they'd call me Jeff Seamless. Would they? Yeah. Okay, great. You can just use your real name or whatever. No, I'd be Jeff Seamless.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Now, it's interesting. I came across this list because they're obviously looking for a new actor to take on a new villain, and whether it be like a Doctor Doom or Mephisto or whatever. Yep. You know, a chair with a sword. Doesn't matter. A chair with a sword? Yes. The sword is on the chair? Yeah, yeah. Leaning against it? Absolutely. Great. And I want to avoid controversy,
Starting point is 00:27:17 right? So this list, this is what it includes. And I didn't make this up. This is a real list. These are the names that they've got that I think they should bring in. Starting to think it makes this list up. They've got Sean Penn as one of them. A guy with famously no legal troubles. Nothing shady in his past. Jared Leto. Well, he's already morbid, so he could probably just work that in.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And he's normal. And no one's ever said anything about that guy. It says here, the bones and ghost of Michael Jackson. Oh, I see what you're doing here. Again, this is a list. The next one is, the doctor that killed Michael Jackson. Oh, I see what you're doing here. No, again, this is a list. Okay. The next one is The Doctor That Killed Michael Jackson. And the last one just says Dr. Phil.
Starting point is 00:27:50 So look, none of these are my top choices. I understand. And I think a lot of these aren't even controversy free. Would you say? Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, but whatever. It's not really up to me. Where did you get that list? Somebody, um, it was on Twitter. On Twitter? It was on X. Wow, so if I list? Somebody, it was on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:28:05 On Twitter. It was on X. Wow. So if I just searched on Twitter for all those names. Yeah, but it's not working very well as a platform. No, that's actually true. That's actually true. Anyways, here's some casting that we know for sure, though, probably.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Multiple trades have reported this. It's probably, I would even say definitely a lock, but Pedro Pascalcal is reed richards yeah okay now that that has not been confirmed i only know this because the community note i would say it's been confirmed everything short of marvel saying it okay i think they're waiting to cast everybody and then they will make the announcement yeah right yeah so apparently according to the in snyder i think they should reveal the cast over five days. Oh, yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Because Doctor Doom is the last one. No, no, no. They do. They leave a date. They do three, and then they do somebody's first name, and then their last name the day after. Brilliant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So apparently they wanted Jake Gyllenhaal, but he was too much money. There was a similar situation a while back with Adam Driver. I like this casting of pedro pascal i think my only concern would be like he's like nearly 50 and he's got there's probably going to be 9 to 12 years of movies well i'm also thinking does he want to do that this i mean a lot of people have questioned why is it taking so long to reveal this cast yeah you know because they haven't locked it well because they haven't locked it and the reason they haven't locked it is because at this point nobody wants to lock themselves into ten years of movies in what might be a sinking ship.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Like maybe this movie turns it all around. I hope it does. Maybe the spum takes off. Maybe spum takes off. And everyone flees to the spum. That's exactly right. Give me more of that spum, they'll say. As much as I can handle, which is all of it.
Starting point is 00:29:41 That's right. So, yeah, like nobody wants to be – I'm sure there are people out – and also, you know, established actors, if you haven't been cast in a Marvel movie now, it's probably – it might be because their representatives are like, don't do it. Yeah. Don't do it, man.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Let's just see. Let's just see what happens. I might, you know, and a lot of them might be like, you know, like a Brie Larson, an Academy just see. Yeah. Let's just see what happens. I might, you know, and a lot of them might be like, you know, like a Brie Larson and an Academy Award winner. Yeah. Where they're like, you want to deal with this?
Starting point is 00:30:10 You want to deal with this for 10 years? Yes. Great. Do you? I don't. I wouldn't want to do it. Absolutely not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah. You get millions of dollars, wouldn't you? That's true. That's a good part of it. That's probably one of the upsides. No. Well,
Starting point is 00:30:20 I reckon he would. Yeah. I mean, because he's in, he's in Star Wars. He's in the last, we sort of in Star Wars. Yeah., because he's in Star Wars. He's in the last. He's sort of in Star Wars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:26 He's not really in Star Wars anymore. But he's doing a million things. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. But I think I would never have picked him. Like, this is the name that I would not have, like, even considered. But he's got. His range is incredible.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Like, I think this is fine. This will probably hopefully work out. The Insider have also said that Javier Bardem is being eyed for Galactus. What I love about that is he has a big face. You've seen his big emotive face? It's crazy. Yeah, so I like that a lot as well, if that is true. I think the other rumors that have been flying around.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Also – Vanessa Kirby, Sue Storm. Vanessa Kirby, Sue Storm, the guy from – The Bear. Edmund Mossback is the thing and then the guy from Stranger Things. Yes. Eddie. Who has a real name also.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Has a real name and I nearly had it but then I'd forgotten it. I mean they've fan cast before. Joseph Quinn. There we go. Rosario Dawson, you know, is Ahsoka because there was a Boss Logic edit where she looks like – Yeah. And, you know, a lot of behind the scenes stuff happened in the meantime.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, they cast her. They cast her, yeah. They did looks like. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of behind the scenes stuff happened in the meantime. Yeah, they cast her. They cast her, yeah. They did, yeah. Absolutely. So that's fun, isn't it? Yeah. So there you go. Fantastic Four.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I imagine by the end of the year we'll probably, if not soon, we'll know that full cast. Yes. Or not. Yeah. I think they should do one a month for six months. Five months. Six months.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Okay, great. Terrific. Or they could just not tell us. months. Five months. Six months. Okay, great. Terrific. Or they could just not tell us. Sure. I'm happy with that. Don't tell us and then give us a trailer. We'll figure it out when the movie starts. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:53 When the characters are introduced. But then you'll spend the whole movie going, what's his name? He's in Stranger Things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's his name? And then in the final battle where they're fighting Javier Bardem's giant face, I'll be like,
Starting point is 00:32:03 Joseph Quinn. I'll stand up and, Joseph Quinn! I knew it! None of you knew it. No, they didn't know. So by deadline, Maria Gabriela DeFaria has been cast to play the DC villain, The Engineer, also known as Angela Spicer?
Starting point is 00:32:20 Speaker. Okay. The character is a member of the superhero team, The Authority. That's correct, yeah. I don't know anything about this character. Go. She's got nanotech blood. That's it? So she's all silver. Oh, that one.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I know that one. She's all silver and nanotech, and so she has a silver sheath look, and she can morph out big guns and stuff. That's pretty cool. And do you reckon she'd be the lead villain, or do you reckon the Authority would be a bunch of villains within the Authority? Well, here's the thing. So what's interesting, does it say specifically she's been cast
Starting point is 00:32:48 as a villain? I believe so, yes. Okay, well, it might be. I think what they're doing is they're using elements of the Authority, which was a Wildstorm image series about like a team of incredibly powerful superheroes who decide to take an active role in making the world better in the image universe. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And then DC had the Elite, which were like a parody of them, who decided Superman wasn't cool and super enough. Wasn't killing enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I think they're probably combining aspects of that. Like the Elite start out as villains and then some of them reform. Right, okay. So I think that's maybe what they're doing with that.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah, okay. Also this, something that was pointed out to me, and again it's obvious in hindsight, is that all the characters thus far that have been cast in this, like all the supporting superheroes, are legacy characters and it's Superman legacy. Oh, okay. So they're all like, they're all dealing with their own legacy. So it's superman legacy so they're all okay they're all like they're all dealing
Starting point is 00:33:46 with their own legacy so it's it's the engineer the second version of something some of them are so so the engineer she's the second version right and was the first version like just a guy in a trench coat it was pretty much just a guy in a trench coat yeah it's often um uh well he also had the nanotech powers anyway um but then we we've got the Green Lantern is Guy Gardner. Yep. Is he second? No, he's not second, but he's like, you know, subsequent. And then we've got Mr. Terrific, who's the second Mr. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And I think whoever else is, and it's Hawk Woman. Yeah. And I think she's. Second Hawk Woman. She might be the second Hawk Woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was there a Hawk Woman in Black Adam? Or was there only a Hawkman?
Starting point is 00:34:25 It was only a Hawkman. Good movie. Good movie? Yeah. Good movie. Yeah, great movie. Yeah, great movie. Yeah, great movie.
Starting point is 00:34:34 In hindsight, it did a lot better. Like we rinsed it at the time, but it's doing a lot better than a bunch of movies this year. I tell you that much, Mason. I didn't hate it. I was glad to tell you that much. It was fun. Do you think that this movie is being overwhelmed
Starting point is 00:34:44 by supporting characters that aren't Superman? Because if it was a normal movie, there's just people hate it. I was glad he'd tell you that much. It was fun. Do you think that this movie is being overwhelmed by supporting characters that aren't Superman? No, because if it was a normal movie, there's just people in it. Nice. You know, there's a lot of people in a movie. It's fine. I don't think they're all going to get 40 minutes of screen time. No, that's true, yeah. And also, yeah, I think, again,
Starting point is 00:34:59 if I'm critical of the Christopher Reeve movies, and I am. What's that? That's right. It's just a lot of Superman fighting regular guys. Sure. And, you know, it's nice to see him battle people of equal power. And not only that, like variations in powers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Which I quite like as well. All right. Coyote versus Acme Mason. Oh, yes. Just a few things to start off with. Phil Lord, who you might know as Phil Lord Crispello. Not personally. You don't know him?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Spider-Verse, other things, worked on whatever Lego movies. He said, Cody versus Acme is wonderful. Dr. D. Green machine nails it. Hilarious, smart, existential, and moving, and makes his all-time character more relevant than ever. So there's a bunch of people coming out saying, I've seen this and I love it. It might even be the best Warner Brothers movie.
Starting point is 00:35:39 The US Congress have called for an investigation into these kind of shenanigans. Well, one guy did. One guy did, yeah. Probably for clout. Probably for cool clout. But Park News came out and said, backlash! Warner Brothers have now opted to allow the filmmakers behind
Starting point is 00:35:53 Cody vs. Acme to search for another distributor. Cody vs. Acme screenings are now being set up for streaming services such as Amazon Prime, Video, Apple, and Netflix. So because of the public outcry about this and so they are actually going to potentially let people see this movie that they already made, that they were then going to shelve to save $30 million but also ultimately lose a bunch of money on it. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And so, yeah, so there was a great public backlash but I think probably the, as I understand it, the main reason for this backtracking is because a lot of people with some clout who are going to make movies with Warner Brothers or make stuff, maybe animation or TV or whatever, contacted Warner Brothers and were like, we're reconsidering being a part of working with you. If you're just going to do this.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah, if you're just going to do this. Yeah, absolutely. Speaking of Warner Brothers, this is great news as well. The New York Times did a profile on David Zaslav. i love that guy brothers yeah he's a good and he's normal he's normal if i was going to pick a word to describe him it would be normal he said in terms of the strikes that happened uh he said they were right about almost everything so what if we overpay i've never regretted overpaying for great talent or a great asset this fucking guy you're overpaid david zazlav you're being paid to ruin this out for months it is are you kidding me
Starting point is 00:37:12 it is astounding that the board has not he must be like such a like such a smooth talker or they're all bored or they're all incredibly stupid they're all stupid, you're right. What are we doing? But just the nerve to be like, yeah, it's good actually, what happened. Fuck you. Alright, let's move it along just quickly, Mason. What do you mean? Also, this thing about overpower, oh, I've never... You've underpaid everybody.
Starting point is 00:37:38 You have nothing. If you don't have the writers and the performers and the directors, you have nothing. That's right, yeah. Anyways, before we talk about 3-Hour Hunger Games prequel, The Marvels is having a bad second week box office run. We know last week it broke records in terms of being the lowest opening for a
Starting point is 00:37:53 MCU movie. Apparently it's going to be lucky to make $10 million in its second weekend. It earns $2.8 million on Friday, which is down a staggering 87% from its opening day last week, which also wasn't great then. This is the biggest second week drop for an MCU film ever.
Starting point is 00:38:11 What's the other one? Oh, that's the biggest. What's the next lowest, I wonder? Probably Ant-Man, maybe? Yeah, maybe Ant-Man. Last Ant-Man? I don't know. But yeah, like, you know, we did talk about maybe this is a thing that will, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:20 they leave it in cinemas and it, you know, gets a bit of momentum. But no, this is dead. Yeah. This is going to be on streaming by tomorrow. Yuck. that they leave it in cinemas and it gets a bit of momentum. But no, this is dead. This is going to be on streaming by tomorrow. Yuck. There you go. Anyway, it's fine. I thought it was all right.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It was fun. Yeah, it's fun. It is what it is. People are doing a little song and dance. As we said, I think there should have been more song and dance. Oh, yeah, that's true. In the movie itself. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:38:42 All right, all right. Should we move it along? Let's move it along. Three Hour Hunger Games, very cool. Woo! As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. will rise together and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Did somebody say three-hour Hunger Games prequel? No. Oh, no, I did earlier, moments ago. But there was a little break. Yeah, we took a break yeah we took a break we took a break you were concerned that the uh the we perhaps not recorded anything but we do
Starting point is 00:40:09 have the backup recorder recorder model so it's fine here's a couple of uh just before we get started here's a couple of uh pieces of news that i i wanted to squeeze in but uh you one you you you were not interested in season i didn't say the trailer for season two of reacher and i own yeah but the only reason i uh mentioned this was like a week ago but the only reason i you were not interested in in season two. I didn't say that. The trailer for season two of Reacher. Oh, yeah, I'm not interested in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the only reason I – this was like a week ago. But the only reason I was interested in talking about it is because someone on Twitter, I think it was Vice Victus on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:40:34 called him the vanilla gorilla. I'm like, that's good stuff. That is very good stuff. He absolutely is. Yeah, cool. And the other thing, I don't know if you saw this, there's a documentary that came out this week, or at least some
Starting point is 00:40:54 clips of it. RoboDoc, which is the creation of the RoboDoc. Oh, is this the Peter Weller format Oreos? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there is a anecdote from, I think, one of the armory guys, one of the stunt coordinators on the original RoboCop. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Should we just get Collings to play it? Should we just play the clip? Yeah, I guess so. But look, I'll describe it. In the interim, I'll describe it. Maybe we'll play it at the end of the show. So the stunt guy is handing Peter Weller his big Robocop gun so he can do a particular scene and he's also carrying like a –
Starting point is 00:41:28 he's got a big handful of Oreos. And Peter Weller looks at this guy and he says, Robo wants an Oreo. And the guy says, listen, it's just you and me up here. We're doing this scene. I'm the only one here. If Peter wants an Oreo, You can have one, but you don't have to do the thing where you're in character.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And then he marches off to like a vantage point over the scene and he starts yelling Robo wants an Oreo. And what I love about that is that he would have done it, you know, in RoboCop 2 where there's a point where he's trying to find out where the drugs are from and he's like, where
Starting point is 00:42:03 is it made? It'll be that cadence and it'll be like, Robo wants an Oreo. And then it escalates. Then Peter Weller interjects at the very end, which is, anyway, we'll play it at the end. It's very good. Anyway, three-hour Hunger Games prequel. Here we go, Mason.
Starting point is 00:42:22 On a budget of $130 million, though, according to Variety, it's only $100 million. Ooh, when that $30 million disappears. Great question. Or Rachel Zegler's pockets. No doubt. The box office return on this is a $45 million US opening, which is short of the $50 million that was projected.
Starting point is 00:42:36 This is well under the others. They open about $100 million plus each. Well, it's been a bloody long time between drinks, I tell you what. It's also, yeah, it's okay, like in terms of numbers, but it'll have to like, it'll have to grow and whatever over the coming weeks to be considered a massive smashing success. What is incredible about this movie is, first of all,
Starting point is 00:42:58 what do you think the story was? Oh, come on, mate. Yeah. All right, so it's a prequel to The Hunger Games. Yeah. But it's still The Hunger Games. They're doing some Hunger Games. And it's just early days for The Hunger Games. They're working out the format.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Yeah, sure. Why aren't people watching The Hunger Games? I don't know, maybe because you put an eight-year-old girl with Down syndrome in a fighting arena. Exactly, and then somebody's going to dome her with a brick or whatever. Like, what's happening here? Yeah. Unbelievable. It's bad.'s happening here? Yeah. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:43:25 It's bad. It's unpleasant. Yeah. But then, who might reinvigorate the Hunger Games? Who's going to do it? But a young whiz kid, a beautiful, handsome Mr Snow. Blonde hair. Donald Sutherland's character, except it's not Donald Sutherland.
Starting point is 00:43:39 It's a younger man. His name's Tom Blythe. Portraying him in the past. That's right, yeah. Which is our future. Whoa. If indeed this Tom Blythe. Portraying him in the past. That's right, yeah. Which is our future. Whoa. If indeed this is set on Earth. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Which I'm not convinced it is. Who cares? Because they wear skirts with pants all together. They do that, don't they? And that is very unusual. In a lot of ways, they're very progressive. In other ways, they do Hunger Games. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:59 There's different things happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so what is wild to me is that this is 10 minutes longer than the movie Napoleon, apparently. Okay, right. apparently which presumably and i haven't seen it yet spans the length of napoleon's life are you sure where this spans maybe a month and a half oh yeah look at this ugly little baby put a weird hat on him give him a very wide hat he's so skinny and sickly we're going to, mother, put a big white hat on him. Why? Look, he's going out to conquer something.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Put a big white hat on him so he can't get through the door. Oh, no. Yeah. It's his look now. That's right. It's the thing that gives him power. Look. Oh, it's the future now and he's died.
Starting point is 00:44:43 He's conquered everything but he's died. Now let's symbolically take his hat on so we can fit him in his grave. So. Napoleon will return. In what kind of sequel? Prequel, I guess. I mean Napoleon. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Right. Because he was all. He goes to Egypt. He goes to Egypt, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dogs here. Hello, Ollie. Hello.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Look, I know the last book they split into two, but this I feel like, look, they shouldn't have split this into two movies. Now, this is based on a book as well, eh? It is, yeah. It's based on a prequel book. This is, okay, right. Suzanne Collins.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Okay, great. But, like, the idea that this has to be three hours long is outrageous, quite frankly. Okay. This has to stop. This didn't feel like three hours to me. Absolutely it did. It felt like there was a movie and then it stopped
Starting point is 00:45:25 and then there was another movie. I'm gathering you didn't like this movie. No, that's the thing. I liked a lot of it, but it's just like, it's way too fucking long. What are we doing this for? I didn't feel like it was three hours at all. It's so long, Mason.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I didn't love it. No. I'll be clear about that. I felt like there was a lot of stuff that worked in this. I agree. I thought there was a lot of interesting ideas. Except for the drones. The drones didn't work.
Starting point is 00:45:49 They literally didn't work. They literally did not work. But I feel like maybe the whole thing didn't gel for me. And I'm wondering if it's because the focus of this movie is about the young Corey Elena Snow. Yeah. Who grows up to be the worst person in the Hunger Games universe probably. Probably. You know? Oriolena Snow, who grows up to be the worst person in the Hunger Games universe probably. Yes, probably. You know?
Starting point is 00:46:06 And the interesting thing about that is like you do see, first of all, you find out his sister is the tiger woman from the other Hunger Games. Oh, is that what that is? Tigress, and then she becomes a tiger woman. But like so they focus a lot on his character and why he's the way he is and there's a moment where he's like, I loved killing that guy just then.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And that's a little bit of an insight into the kind of man that he will turn into. A lot of poisoning people maybe. That's a little bit of an insight into the kind of man that he will turn into. A lot of poisoning people maybe. That's a little bit of insight into the man that he wants to be. I like the sound of the name Katniss. But then there's Rachel Zegler's character who's from the same district as Katniss and she's come to do the Hunger Games or whatever. And at the start it's like, oh, there's some real fight in this
Starting point is 00:46:40 and she's like a really interesting, there's a really crazy kind of dynamic and is she manipulating the people around her is she really like manipulating him yeah are they are they truly falling in love or is she trying to trick him so she can you know and i feel like they don't really do enough with that at all i feel like i would have liked to know like what is this person actually like yeah and i guess that's to more put you in his kind of mindset where he's kind of like assuming things and guessing things. Yeah, because he is the focus. He is in almost every scene where Zegler disappears for.
Starting point is 00:47:11 She comes and goes. For hours at a time. Yeah, that's right. For days. Days at a time. For what it felt like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, that's not to say I disliked his like characterisation
Starting point is 00:47:21 because the idea that because of the result of the war, he's like a very poor person from a previously well-to-do family who's laughing he's like a rich kid and he has to like yeah you know with the ways you know wear certain clothes and like pretend that his driver's sick and whatever all these different things to keep up this this pretense um i thought all of that was kind of really yeah i mean i i i think the the the premise of it is interesting and or like the idea of like the fall of this man to become like this awful person i like what what you know what what the circumstances turn him into kind of thing but i don't know it just yeah i don't i don't i don't know if i got an enough of a an insight into his character as he was to feel like him
Starting point is 00:48:05 transforming into a really bad guy was like a believable arc kind of thing. Sure, okay. It just felt like, not a spoiler, but it just felt like, you know, he had a couple of bad days and he became the Joker. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. You know, he's like, well, I'm just normal and I like, I just, you know, I just want to survive day to day.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I love roses and I love my family. Oh, a couple of bad things happened. Well, now I'm President Snow. Should I use this bird, which is also a tape recorder? I don't know. I'm conflicted about it. Talk about it in spoilers, Mason. Yeah, I feel like there was some ambiguity to the characters in this,
Starting point is 00:48:39 which I don't know if too ambiguous is the right word, but I just would have preferred some more insight, especially considering that it's a three-hour Hunger Games prequel. Sure is. I think there's some room there. Oh, a bit of room. But that would have made it even longer. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Unless they just wore T-shirts that said there. No, just cut out the Hunger Games stuff because, boy, do you like a boring Hunger Games in a concrete room? That's what they're doing this time around. Yeah, it's – what is interesting, I think, is that, again, because it's early. At least everybody in the universe agrees it's boring. Yeah. It's early days of the Hunger Games.
Starting point is 00:49:13 So it's just they put them in like a small stadium with some weapons and they just have at it. Yeah, for like ten minutes. There's very little room to hide or, you know, there's no. Yeah, for like ten minutes. There's very little room to hide or, you know, there's no – they're not, you know, they're not employing guerrilla warfare tactics in a forest or anything like that. It's just you get in a room.
Starting point is 00:49:32 So how many of these have ended in ten minutes? All of them. Because they've all just hacked at each other with swords and then they've all died of blood loss. All of them. And people aren't watching that apparently. Yeah. And it needs – and so Viola Davis' character is the game –
Starting point is 00:49:46 Games master. She's one of the scientists behind all this who can – she can create all these genetically engineered creatures and these special like assassin snakes and all this sort of stuff. She doesn't have the foresight to be like people – like she's sort of genuinely stunned. Yeah. Because Snow's character is one of these students from an elite school
Starting point is 00:50:09 who were brought in to mentor the – It's the first year of mentors. It's the first year of mentoring. They're going to mentor these tributes. But also she wants to talk to them. Viola Davis' character wants to talk to them about what they think about this whole thing. And some of them are like, this is bad actually.
Starting point is 00:50:26 But Snow is like, what if people saw what these people were like? And it's blown her mind. Brilliant. This is brilliant action. How did you do that? How did you come up with this? I built this big tank of snakes. I might be able to actually use that now.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah, I was. Because they won't all be dead in 10 minutes. Yeah, I was considering just, it's weird that people didn't want to watch me just bring in 12 random people into a room and then drop a bucket of snakes on them. You know, they, you know. Because they'd stick around, I guess they'd stick around. They'd stick around until they were all killed by the snakes
Starting point is 00:51:06 and then they'd switch off. Absolutely, yeah. Oh, my goodness. It's not a sustained business model. No. It's ten minutes of people being killed by snakes and then everybody's like, what else should we do for the day? And the only reason the arena was like slightly bigger than normal
Starting point is 00:51:20 was because there's an attack on it. So it's like crumbled and you can kind of get underground and whatever. So that's the only reason it goes a bit longer like this time around. But it's just so bizarre and bland and like, again, it's a concrete room with some tridents in it and whatever. Sure. It's a broken bow and arrow which means something probably. But there is like –
Starting point is 00:51:39 Katniss. Katniss, that's right. You can – This ain't your grandpappy's Hunger Games, except it is. It absolutely is, yeah. This is your grandpappy's Hunger Games. That's right. Just how he liked it.
Starting point is 00:51:51 So you can also call in, get water and whatever. So it's the early days of where you can bring in, if you're thirsty you can get some water and whatever. But they rocket in at such speed. Yes, they're barely controlled drones. Yeah, which you can later be weaponized because it's clearly just not working. How do you feel about the new host of The Hunger Games? Sorry, the first host of The Hunger Games.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Oh, Lucky Flickerman. Yeah. Loved him. He has some right little commentaries. Big year for Jason Schwartzman. What was the other one he did? Spider-Verse. What?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Asteroid City. Oh, yeah, he's in Spiderverse. He's the spot, yeah. Yeah, and another thing I'm pretty sure. This three-hour Hunger Games prequel. No, there's four. He's in four things this year, I'm pretty sure. Jason Schwartzman.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Jason Schwartzman. He was in the Darjeeling Limited, Mason. That was a long time ago. Are you thinking of that? No. Fantastic Mr. Fox. No. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Asteroid City Spider vs Quiz Lady. Hunger Games prequel. Oh, and he's in Quiz Lady, but he's also in bloody Scott Pilgrim. His voice is, you know, he's back in, so he's done five things this year. He's also in Digman. I think you should leave
Starting point is 00:52:59 Tim Robinson. Ten-year-old Tom. This is an even bigger year for Jason Schwartzman than I thought it would be. How does he do it? What's his secret? Some of these are just voice roles. Yeah, also he's a nepotism baby. I got him, Mason. Is he? Yeah, I think he's related to someone.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Huh. Is he a cop? Jason Bateman? Is he a Francois Coppola's nephew or something? Oh, he might be, yeah. He's one of those guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Okay. Well, then I take back everything nice I've ever said about him. Me too. Yeah. All right. But yeah, so I bet you enjoyed him. Did you enjoy Peter Dinklage? Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:26 As a very open drug addict. Sure. Just quickly drinking drugs in front of everybody before he makes a speech. I'm just going to quickly. Drink your drugs before you come out. I'm just going to quickly drink my obvious vulnerability here. I'm just going to quickly drink that, and I hope nobody notices that for later. Puts anything in my little drinks.
Starting point is 00:53:41 He's good, though, isn't he? Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Peter Dinklage. Can you drink morphine? Yes, you can. This one you can. Wow, nice? Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Can you drink morphine? I guess you can. This one you can. Wow, nice. Yeah, and that's cool.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Hell yeah. Yeah. I think there is some, like you said, it does happen quick, but there is some interesting ideas about like him, this guy being heartbroken and turning the way he does. I think it's not all as. Well, I would say get over it. Yeah, it's not as heavy handed as.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Plenty of other chicks in the sea, am I right? Yeah, because you know like. Also, it is a profoundly heavy-handed as – Plenty of other chicks in the sea, am I right? Yeah, because, you know, like – Also, it is a profoundly bad idea to let these guys who are, like, the enemy, just let them go to the districts and hang out. Get some shore leave and just go to the districts and drink in the bars and, you know, become friends with the rabble and fall in love and all that sort of stuff. That's going to end in tears for everybody.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Absolutely. Ridiculous as a premise. Those people don't know. So it starts with like you get selected for the Hunger Games and then the middle hour is the Hunger Games and then the third hour is it moves out towards the district. So that's the kind of the narrative flow of it and whatever. That's where all the love takes place over all of the different hours
Starting point is 00:54:42 of this movie. And there's a bird that's a tape recorder. And it can remember what you said. Or maybe that comes up multiple times. Yeah, that's right. A real Ricardo Montalban situation. Very good. I thought we were in love, but you Ricardo
Starting point is 00:54:59 Montalban'd me. Should we do some spoilers? Hang on, let me think. You know what? I thought Rachel Zegel was really good. I think she's great, yeah. I like there's a lot of music in this. You know what I liked? Production-wise, everything seems to be real. Looking good, looking good.
Starting point is 00:55:13 A lot of the sets are real, all the major sets, like all the – Yeah, because, again, it's like a stone room that they're in. Yeah, yeah. But, like, you know, a lot of the district sets are real. A lot of the grey fatigues are real. Yeah, they're very real. Very real. Very real.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Real singularity. Yeah, I think Rachel Zegler's really good and, like, I liked all her singing. I liked all the songs. I thought that was a nice touch because, you know, in the original ones Katniss is a hunter and that's her skill set, whereas this is – Rachel Zegler is a dodger.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Lucy Grey is a character. She's always dodging stuff. She's an artful dodger. They're always trying to hit her with an axe and she's dodging. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought those songs were good. Maybe I'll check out the soundtrack. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:53 I think – Apparently she did all her singing on set. Did you say that? Yeah, I did say that. No, I didn't say that, but I saw that. Oh, okay. Now I'm saying that. No, I said it first.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Okay, fine. Yeah. I'll say it later better. Okay. I also thought Young Snow was good. Tom Blythe. I thought he was. Okay, fine. Yeah. I'll say it later better. Okay. I also thought Young Snow was good. Tom Blythe. I thought he was really good as well. What I was going to say is, though,
Starting point is 00:56:09 I wonder if they felt like they had to give both of those main characters more equal screen time, whereas maybe it would have made sense if Zegler's character was, like, more off in the distance. Okay, sure, yeah. And we all, as an audience member, we always wondered what her agenda was. Okay, sure, yeah. And we all, as an audience member, we always wondered what her agenda was. Right, okay, yeah. Because we see her in, we see her so much in the movie,
Starting point is 00:56:31 it does kind of feel like all her cards are on the table really. Like I never really thought of her like, oh, she's, maybe she's manipulating him, maybe she's not genuine, that sort of thing. I always felt like I knew what her emotional state was, her mental state was. And she's like she's initially not trusting of this guy and then she realises she's got to work together
Starting point is 00:56:57 and then she has feelings for the guy and all that sort of stuff. But I think because this is a hunger games movie they wanted to have a female protagonist yeah a katniss-esque a katniss-esque kind of character whereas i think if you just kept the point of view to this snow that would be more compelling if you if you always wondered if he was in control or if she was yeah manipulating him from the back. From The Hunger Games. From The Hunger Games, exactly. From The Hunger Games prequel three hours.
Starting point is 00:57:28 That's right. It's also not quite three hours. I just want to point that out. It's like two hours 47 including credits. Yeah. I'm going to say best movie ever. I don't think it really gelled for me. I didn't feel like it was that long.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Even though it was really long. Yeah. It was nine minutes longer than Napoleon movie. Yeah, I feel like you could have, yeah, you definitely could have trimmed it. I don't, what do you feel? Maybe this would have been better as a series. Yeah. Six episodes.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah, whoever owns it put it on their streaming service. Yeah. What third do you think was the strongest third? Probably the first and the very back end. I think the very, for me, I think maybe the final third. And maybe that sinks my argument that I shouldn't know what her mental state was. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:12 But I don't know. I also feel like if he spent the entire movie going, oh, I've got to, you know, I've got to find a way to be away with this woman. Yeah. You know, we're going to escape and we're going to make our way to the districts and we'll be away from all of this, not knowing anything about her. And then when he went out to the district with her, she was like,
Starting point is 00:58:34 hey, let's take a trip to the lake. Let's, you know, tie this big weight around your neck and then I'll – that's what we do in the district. And we'll be in love. We do it in the district. And it's in love. To show our love, we put a big weight around our neck and then I'll – that's what we do in the district. And we'll be in love. We do it in the district. And it's in love. To show our love, we put a big weight around our neck, you know? That's what we do in the three-hour Hunger Games.
Starting point is 00:58:50 That's exactly right, yeah. But I'm going to say generally best. Yeah, sure. Why not? Spoilers. Yes. So there's a tape recorder bit where there's a friend he goes out to the district with and he records him maybe doing a mini uprising
Starting point is 00:59:03 using a tape recorder bird and then he sends it into the city where Viola Davis earlier was like, I check all the tape recorder birds. That's right. And then he's like, but I didn't do that on purpose. But like. You did. Does he think, what does he think? What's that?
Starting point is 00:59:18 That's great. Is he kidding himself or others? Also, doesn't that tape also implicate him? Yeah, he's in it. He's in the tape but yeah it was like i don't know but i guess viola davis is like well i like this kid yeah but i don't like the other kid and i like this bird oh so anyway so the so the the the the the plot how the plot goes yeah is that uh he's asked to mentor uh lucy gray yep and then uh he helps her out in the hunger
Starting point is 00:59:43 games he cheats he gives her a little container container of rat poison so she can do a big poisoning on people. And then Viola Davis is going to dump a bunch of snakes. Yes. She's going to dump a big bucket of snakes on the surviving tributes to end the Hunger Games as quickly as possible because, again, she doesn't know how to build tension. It's crazy how those snakes are even alive in there,
Starting point is 01:00:03 just slithering all over each other. Just slithering around. But luckily this is a movie, so Snow has learned earlier, that the snakes won't kill anybody if they're familiar with their scent. Yes. And he has a handkerchief that has Lucy Gray's sweat or scent or something on it or boogers and so forth. And so he puts it in the container of snakes before it's shipped off
Starting point is 01:00:22 to be dumped on all the tributes and then they get her sent and so they kill everybody but her and so she is declared the winner of the Hunger Games. But? But? But the bad guys recover the rat poison and the handkerchief and they're like, you did a big cheating so we're going to. Peter Dinklage does not like it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:00:41 We're going to bust you down to being a grunt. We're going to send you out into the district. And he's like, can I be sent to district two where the girl I love is? And the person sorting out is like, sure, I guess. Yeah, whatever. I don't know. Do you have $50? There should be a big note on your form that says absolutely never do that.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah. If he asks, kick him. Yeah. He can go anywhere except district 12. Yeah. If he asks, kick him. Yeah. He can go anywhere except District 12. Yeah. But District 12, sure, absolutely. And then he goes and he finds her again and she's like, ooh. We love.
Starting point is 01:01:11 That's right. We love, she says. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. Yes. Then he gets, because his mate went with him, there's a little uprising happens and he ends up betraying his mate and they shoot some people or whatever and then they have to get rid of the guns. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And then the gun, but then his mate goes to jail and by that I mean they hang him because of the tape recorder bird. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because it's so good. Recorder muscle bird. Yes, that's right. And then he goes to him and Lucy are like, let's run away together. We love.
Starting point is 01:01:37 We love. And so they go to the cabin. As we say in District 12, we love. Yeah. He goes to the cabin but it turns out that under the floorboards are the guns. Oh. And she's like, wow, somebody must have put them there, whatever his name is, the other guy. Yeah. He goes to the cabin, but it turns out that under the floorboards are the guns. Oh. And she's like, wow, somebody must have put them there. Whatever his name is, the other guy.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Yeah, the other guy. But was that the implication that she did that and she's one of these resistance fighters? Maybe. I guess we'll know in the sequel, six-hour Hunger Games prequel. I just feel like I would have loved some more like, because then she leaves and that's the last that they. Yeah. She kind of loses trust in him because she realizes that he betrayed a friend. But again, is that enough for you to become the worst guy in the world?
Starting point is 01:02:10 That's what I'm, yeah, yeah. It's all kind of like, again, it's kind of ambiguous in a way that I didn't feel. Like, is he going to meet another Rachel Zegler later? Well, he does have family, so. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. And then that Rachel Zegler betrays him.
Starting point is 01:02:24 But she could definitely like if they were to do a sequel for this and i don't think they will she could she's alive obviously for sure yeah you know like he thought he'd shoot her at some point but uh i thought we love and then i thought we shoot yeah but who knows no sad day for snow i just kind of walked away from this going like i just wish i knew more about what her character was about. Well, if there was more run time. If only it was longer. If only it was longer, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah. I don't know. I did like that there was a tape recorder bird. That was pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. How's it work? We don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:57 You turn the switch. Yeah, I guess. What's the range on that? That's a great question. Yeah. How's it connected? To the bird? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:04 It's a wire. Oh. It's directly connected. Like the movie Bird on a a great question. Yeah. How's it connected? To the bird. Yeah. It's a wire. Oh. It's directly connected. Like the movie Bird on a Wire. Exactly. Wow. I don't know, anything else you want to say?
Starting point is 01:03:11 No, that's about it, I reckon. Got this from Vinton who says, hashtag weekly planet pod. I appreciate they didn't separate The Hunger Games,
Starting point is 01:03:17 I'm presuming here, Vinton means The Hunger Games three hour prequel into two to three movies because it certainly felt like it was two movies but they gave Snow's full story and I I think that's a pretty compelling best movie
Starting point is 01:03:27 ever. There you go. Anything else to say? It's too long, obviously. It's pretty long. Oh, yeah. Very long. All right, guys.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Next segment. Next segment is the joke. What is it? It's what we're reading. Yep. What we're going to read. Yeah. I've got to think of something.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Think of it quick. All right. Think of it during the theme song. I'm doing the theme. I'm doing the theme. Think of it during the theme song. I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today?
Starting point is 01:03:51 All right, I've just started. I just started. Just before you got here because I've been away for the weekend. Boys trip, not a big deal. Just backing it up, mate, week to week. What's that mean? Just drinking as much as I can. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Sure, sure, sure. I'm in quite a lot of peril. You think so? Yeah, yeah. Because I have to do it again next week. You think this might be the last days of Mr. Sunday Movies? It's, sure, sure. I'm in quite a lot of peril. You think so? Yeah, yeah. Because I have to do it again next week. You think this might be the last days of Mr. Sunday movies? It's very possible, most likely. Wow, okay. Is this like when a superstar football player gets three concussions in a row?
Starting point is 01:04:14 It's exactly what it's like. You think if you get three hangovers in a year. If you do this again next week, you will definitely die. And I have to do it next week. I've got a friend flying in from the UK. Oh, I know. You know what he's like. I know what he's like. That's right. He's got a friend flying in from the UK. Oh, I know. You know what he's like. I know what he's like.
Starting point is 01:04:26 That's right. That's exactly right. Well, good luck to you. Thank you. We might try to record a little bit earlier next week. We might have to reshuffle the podcast. We know what he's like. We're going to have to reshuffle the podcast to factor in one of your high school friends drinking
Starting point is 01:04:40 problems. I think that's cool. That is cool. I think that's cool. That is cool, yeah. I think that's cool. That's legendary, guys. But I'm taking Hydrolyte out with me now, you know? Okay, sure. Keeping hydrated on the go. Anyways, what are you reading?
Starting point is 01:04:55 I initially thought, I'm like, what happened to my weekend? What was I doing all weekend? I was watching Bob Ross. Oh, on YouTube? Yeah. What's he up to? Well, he's dead. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 But over the weekends, I've discovered the official Bob Ross. Because other people were uploading his stuff for a while. Yeah. And getting like millions of views. Yeah, but the official Bob Ross YouTube channel has like weekend marathons. So it's always just running live episodes, like 24. They call him the grandfather of ASMR. Though he was well before.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Perverts. All the perverts. All the perverts. All the perverts, yeah. For people who don't know, Bob Ross, famously Afroed painter. Used to be in the Army, I think. He was, yeah. I think it's a perm also. It is a perm, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Yeah. And he just does some real. Just does a nice little painting show. Just does a nice painting painting show very calm and cool yeah and uh it does beautiful landscapes but you know what intimately stressful and i'll tell you why and i think other people have this experience as well he'll do a beautiful landscape and he'll be like i'll just add something here and i'm like bob you're gonna ruin this bob you're ruining this it was a perfect landscape and you you're putting in the tree and you've run oh no that's perfect
Starting point is 01:06:02 actually it's actually perfect don't forget I said anything, Bob. Don't even worry about it. Oh, nice. Yeah. So you just have it on your TV? Just have it on my TV. Is it something you would want to attempt? No, but I like that other people are doing it.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Yeah, absolutely. Because there was that old Wilson movie where he played a variation on Bob Ross. Oh, that's right, yeah. Like there was a – the last Deadpool movie he did a Bob Ross in the trailer. I remember that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. There you go. Good stuff. Well, I just started. I remember that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Good stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Well, I just started because just before you got here, I watched the first ten minutes of Monarch. Okay, great. Of course, we're making our way through the four new Monsterverse movies and they all lead into Monarch. And this is a prequel sequel. Yeah, it's set after Godzilla 2014 but before King of Monsters, I think. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Specifically, yeah. Okay. So that's fun. So no spoilers. There, yeah. Okay. So that's fun. So no, so spoilers, there'll be no King Ghidorah. I presume not. No King Kong, probably. No, but they've got some people who pop up who you might not expect, I think, and big crabs and stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Okay, sure, sure, sure. Do you like big crabs? Maybe. Yeah, delicious. I like seafood. Yeah, there you go. And the seafood diet? Go on. The seafood diet, Mason? I'm not on any Yeah, there you go. On the seafood diet? Go on.
Starting point is 01:07:05 On the seafood diet, Mason? I'm not on any kind of diet. Are you on the seafood diet? Can you play the lettuce theme song? Yes. Okay, let's do it. That was a short what we were eating, don't you think? Oh, God, your loud phone is back.
Starting point is 01:07:18 We love you. Some letters, they're only a takeaway. We're going to hear right now. We're going to do that as... Ah! Your previous phone had to put the volume all the way up. Now? Now it's...
Starting point is 01:07:32 Was that as loud as it goes? That's as loud as it goes. Oh, my God. Yeah. You should throw that away. I'm not going to. It's a nice phone. Mason, if you do want to reach the show,
Starting point is 01:07:39 all you have to do is hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter. So true. Or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com. Or if you're me or Mason, we can just talk to each other and then we will reach the show. Oh, that's very true, isn't it? What do you have this week in terms of letters? And if you do not have one in front of you right now,
Starting point is 01:07:53 I will do one. This is from Jack. It just says, sick on a plane. Dear James and Maceo, I got sick on a plane going to Florida from Washington. It hurts to swallow and I get headaches. Can I be the official sick kid on planes at the podcast? Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:06 That's right. We're sorry you got sick on a plane. Yeah. That's not a good place to be sick. Do you think it was related? Do you think it was air sickness or do you think it was? It's all throat. I don't think that's an air sickness.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Maybe that's an altitude thing. I don't think so, man. Okay. It'd be more ears than throat. I think they have gastro. Maybe they have. That's not throat either. What's happening?
Starting point is 01:08:22 What are you talking about? I don't know, man. It'd be like a COVID or like a – I don't know. Like a – what is it called? A tonsillitis potentially. It might be tonsillitis, yeah. Anyway, this one's from Metal Eugenio, hashtag weekly planet pod.
Starting point is 01:08:33 If you can eliminate one genre between prequels or spin-offs, which would you pick? Prequels. Really? It's rarely a good prequel, right? I mean we just did three Our Hunger Games prequels. That's true. And you didn't love it.
Starting point is 01:08:44 That one's fine. But what about spininoffs? What spinoffs are you loving? Well, Monarch Legacy of Monsters, obviously. You haven't watched it yet. No, I haven't watched it yet. That's true. I'm going to write best spinoff movies
Starting point is 01:08:54 and I'm going to do best prequel movies. Okay. So we've got- You never loved prequels. No, I know, but I think there are some won. Indiana Jones? I don't think that counts. Why not?
Starting point is 01:09:04 Because it's not. Yes, it is. It's not. They're not like, oh, this is actually, this is the prequel. This is the origin of how we got all the stuff. X-Men First Class. Pretty good. Bumblebee, maybe.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Yeah. Prey. Not a prequel. Scorpion King. Doesn't count as a prequel. No? Prey doesn't count as a prequel because it's just an event that happened prior to the original Predator. The King's Man.
Starting point is 01:09:23 because it's just an event that happened prior to the original Predator. The King's Man. The Fast and Furious movies that are set before Tokyo Drift. Great point. Well, that's torpedoed my entire argument. Some of the Planet of the Apes. And in terms of spin-offs, well, Rogue One, this is also a prequel, Deadpool, Creed, US Marshals, Mason, there's some good ones here, Minions, Fantastic Beasts.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Did you say Creed? Yeah It's not a prequel? No, it's a spin-off This is 40, that's a great spin-off actually Yeah, alright, they're prequels Fine, fine I'm not saying there aren't good prequels I'm saying that I think as a
Starting point is 01:10:00 I think you've got more options with spin-offs as well, because prequels are like well, he better get the thing that he has. Exactly. And with spinoffs you can be like, who cares? Yeah. Whatever. Who cares?
Starting point is 01:10:09 It is 40. That's right. What else have you got, Mason? I'm going to find something. Don't even worry about it. Why are you doing that? Okay. This is from RedLionFlames who says,
Starting point is 01:10:18 hashtag weeklyplanetpod, I'm trying to find a funny voicemail message. Then I thought, why not ask the weekly planet to make one for me? No swearing, please. Hashtag Weekly Planet pod. Just wing it. Grabbed that spaghetti covered gem. Okay, this is from Red Lion Flame, so we don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Don't know their names? Okay, so whoever calls them, we're going to reveal their internet handle. Do we want to do that? Yeah. Okay, let's go. Hey, dudes. Hey. Hey, everybody.
Starting point is 01:10:43 There's two of us here. Yeah, that's right. If you were looking for Red Lion Flames, they're not here. Hey. Hey, everybody. There's two of us here. Yeah, that's right. If you were looking for red line flames, they're not here. No. They're off gallivanting probably. Yeah, and that might be your fault. That's right. If you'd like to leave a message, that is an option or you can hang up right now.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah, I mean most people hang up. Also, we're from the Weekly Planet Podcast. That's right. Get a plug in there. Get a plug in there. That's great. Yeah. Do you think that'll work?
Starting point is 01:11:03 I think so. Okay. Beep. You don't have to add the beep. No? No. Is this all in it? I think this is plug in there. That's great. Do you think that'll work? I think so. Okay. Beep. You don't have to add the beep. No? No. Is this all in it? I think this is all in.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Okay, great. Okay, great. Beep. If you've gotten all the way to the end, Redline Flames will give you a cash prize if you've made it all the way to the end of this voicemail. Thank you. Beep.
Starting point is 01:11:18 That was the final beep. It was perfect. Thank you. All right. What do you got in terms of letters? I'm going to find one. Wow. And this is an email from Tim.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Tim. Who says, my dogs love the podcast. Wow. Tim says, I've thought about sending this email for years, but since I'm from Albuquerque, New Mexico, episode 505 seemed like the perfect episode to try to get a letter read. Is this episode 505? Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Nice. Yes. Well, then you're in luck, Tim T. Albuquerque's area code is 505, a thing we're very proud of. Can that be true? They're proud of it? Yep. Doesn't seem true.
Starting point is 01:11:48 No, that seems like a lie. Seems a ridiculous thing to be proud of. Seems ridiculous. Be more proud of being a reference that Bugs Bunny always makes. Yeah, Albuquerque. Albuquerque. Yeah. Every morning I get up to take my dogs on a three-mile walk.
Starting point is 01:12:03 I listen to podcasts while I do and usually start the podcast before I put my headphones in. The dogs don't always get up from their resting spots with as much excitement as they do when they hear James and Maiso, which leads me to the only logical conclusion. My dogs love the podcast as much as I do. That makes a lot of sense. It's also interesting because three miles is equivalent to 4.8 kilometers.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Did you just do that off the top of your head? Did I do it off the top of my head just now? Yeah. Why were you typing on your keyboard? Typing? Yep. On this computer? Correct, yes. Money. Doing personal finance. Okay, that makes sense. That's actually
Starting point is 01:12:33 very important. It's what I do. It's great. It's what I do when you read emails. Oh, that's great. Tim says, thank you for all the years of laughs, thoughts, and quotes that don't make sense out of context or sound as good without an Australian accent. All right. Keep on doing your thing, boys.
Starting point is 01:12:46 That's Tim from Albuquerque, New Mexico. P.S., you can settle a regional dispute by saying that New Mexico's green chile is better than Colorado's. Well, of course it is. Easy done. Easy done. Happy to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Yeah. Everybody knows that. Nobody also, like, aside, jokes aside, I've never heard of a Colorado chile. Yeah, what are we talking about? Yeah. Maybe it's chile because it's a bit bloody cold. More like coldorado. I had a pen pal in Colorado when I was in primary school.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Stop writing to him. Don't know what happened to him. Maybe you should write him now. Write him right now. All right. I don't know his name. What's his name? You don't know his name.
Starting point is 01:13:18 No, not his full name or address. His name was Brandon. Brandon from Colorado. Yeah, so if you're Brandon from Colorado and you had a pen pal in 1993, then don't expect much. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. From me.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right, should we move it along? Well, you're Brandon yourself is a real bad friend there. I don't give a shit. Wow. If you told me he was dead, I'd be like, whatever. Wow.
Starting point is 01:13:42 That ship has sailed. I'm sure. Who do you think? Do you think you stopped writing first? Yeah.'d be like, whatever. Wow. That ship has sailed. I'm sure. Who do you think? Do you think you stopped writing first? Yeah. No, it was me. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:49 But it's not about that. What it is about is wrapping up the show as best we can. That's right. Yeah. What have we got? Folks, thank you very much for listening to the show. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I hope he's okay, Brandon, wherever you are. I hope that also. Just a close-up. I hope that also. Despite your close-up. I hope that also. Despite your cavalier attitude towards Brandon from Colorado, if you know Brandon from Colorado, what do you email in? Tell me. Weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Yeah, that's right. Thank you also for leaving a five-star review on your podcast, Catcher of Choice. You can do it in-app most of the time. Let me just close all my financing operations, and I'll do that for you right now, Mason. This is from Kerplunk, who says, very few, if any, side effects detected
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Starting point is 01:14:44 but probably just a good one. Five stars. I'll take that. Probably just a good podcast. I'll tell to this podcast since the beginning. It's a good podcast, maybe even a great one, but probably just a good one. Five stars. I'll take that. Probably just a good podcast. I'll take that. Any day of the week. Put that on our coat of arms. Tombstone. Well, the coat of arms is on the tombstone. That is true. Our joint tombstone. Probably they did just a good podcast. Question mark? Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:16:08 as one episode. Yep. Didn't line up this year. Didn't line up. And too bad. Yep. But, yeah, there's a new season of Doctor Who coming out or there's a special.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Three specials or something. 40th anniversary special. I think something like that. 40th. 60th? Yeah. 100th? 100th.
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Starting point is 01:16:57 I went upstairs and I was carrying, I don't know, about eight Oreos in a stack. I'd hand him his weapon. I'd say, Peter, safety's off. And he wouldn't take the pistol. And he says, Robo wants an Oreo. And I look at him and go, no, it's just you and I, Peter. Robo doesn't get an Oreo. Peter wants an Oreo.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Peter can have an Oreo. And he clip-clops in the suit over to the edge of the railing, and Peter starts bellowing, Robo wants an Oreo. And he clip-clops in the suit over to the edge of the railing, and Peter starts bellowing, Robo, what's an Oreo? And when the steel mill just echoes, Randy has Oreos, and Robo, what's an Oreo? And Steve Lim over the radio goes, Randy, do you have Oreos? So I stuffed that whole stack in my mouth, and then crunched them and let them fall down three stories onto everybody below me. And I, not anymore. And Robo got upset. I haven't got a damn clue about Randy Moore and his fucking Oreos.
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