The Weekly Planet - 51 Toonstravaganza! (with Tommy Dassalo)

Episode Date: September 22, 2014

This week Mr Sunday is out sick, so Maso ropes in Tommy Dassalo from bloody great Aussie podcast The Little Dum Dum Club!We talked Batman v Superman AND Shia LeBeouf news, conspiracy theories, and every cartoon ever made!Except your favourite. You should definitely e-mail us about that. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Denizens of the internet, welcome once again to another episode of the Weekly Planet, the official podcast of comicbookmovie.com. This week I am your host, Nick Mason, regular host to James, Mr. Sunday Movies, has been laid low by a plague of medieval proportions. Pluracy? Is that what they had back in the day? Pluracy? Heresy, I'm thinking of heresy. Heresy, I don't know what either of those things are He's been drowned for Heresy I know the Black Plague That's probably what he has

It's the only medieval based thing that I know So assuming he hasn't died from that We'll see him back next week Well we wish him a speedy recovery from the Black Plague Thank you So look Never Fear listeners, you've heard the voice This won't be an hour of me Sitting in a room alone, tinfoil hat on

Talking about how they faked the moon landings. Which they did, obviously, because you can tell from the reflections. Look, I have roped in a very special guest today. Podcast royalty. One half of the excellent podcast of the Little Dumb Dumb Club. Stand-up comedian, TV

writer, illustrator, soulless corporate mascot. We'll talk about that. Co-founder of the Kentucky Friendship Club. Oh, yes. It's Mr. Tommy Daslow. Tommy, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me, Mayso.

I now would just, I want to hear the tinfoil cast of just you wearing a little hat. Yeah. And just, there must be, there must be like, I've never looked into this conspiracy theory podcast. Absolutely. There's got to be. See, somebody sent me an article actually just recently and it was this is the proof that the moon landing was

fake. Oh, I love it. It was a link to a YouTube video from like a talk show of the 90s and Neil Armstrong is being interviewed and it's, the host is like, so Neil, what was it like walking on the moon? And he looks really sad for a second and then he answers the question and people are like that's the proof proof he's been holding on to guilt for like 30 40 years

you know that more than half his life because he's part of this conspiracy he knows yeah he knows but i mean that's that's not why he's sad he's sad because other things have gone on in his life but nobody you know for 50 years nobody's asked him anything other than what was it like. He's like, ask me about my grandkids. Ask me about my charitable donor. Ask me about my golf swing. Ask me about anything. But you've just made me realise, like I've never thought about this, like all those guys,

that must be pretty constant that they get asked in the street. There's enough weirdos out there that would stop them and go, seriously though, you guys faked it, didn't you? Yeah, yeah, totally. I reckon they'd get that at least once a day. Yeah, definitely. Just walking around. Just at the supermarket or whatever.

They'd get the weird look of like, I recognise that guy. Yeah. And then somebody would look down and Google it and be like, oh, it's Neil Armstrong. Here we go. Now's my moment. How are you... So you're recognising someone in a supermarket and then you're Googling who is this guy that I can see in the supermarket right now.

Yeah. No, you've got a glimmer of recognition. Google is getting really good. It's so good, isn't it? But, yeah, that would happen a lot, and I love the thinking of that person asking. Yeah, yeah. They've never admitted it in an interview. Yep.

It's never come out. It's been a tightly held secret, but I'm just going to ask him on the street. And maybe he'll give me a wink. Yeah, he'll give me a straight answer. Yeah, absolutely. And I'll be the guy. You'll be the hero. But you would, wouldn't you?

If I was Neil or Buzz or any of those guys, I would just find one guy. Buzz, like his mates with us. We all know who I'm talking about. If I was one of those guys, I would find just one person that asked me just once, I'd go, yeah, we faked it. And no one will ever believe you. Exactly, yeah. Totally.

And you'd ruin that person's life. You definitely would, yeah. Their existence would be, I swear to Christ, he said it to anyone. I was in a supermarket. I Googled him. I was very sure it was him. I used to get this magazine series. It was one of those ones.

It would have been 15 years ago or something. And it was one of those ones where the first issue came with a big binder to keep all the future editions in. I had Takeoff magazine. It was a lot of planes. Yep. So from issue one, you're in for the long haul. Yes. Because you've got this binder.

Uh-huh. And it just looks ridiculous. You've got to have them all in there. Yeah. And it was, I forget what it was called. It was like, it might have even been called X Factor or something because it was obviously before the TV show. Sure, yeah.

But it was all about, one issue would be all about Roswell and then another one, there was a whole issue on the faked moon landing. Sure. And they had, as you can get very easily on the internet now, just dissecting all the photos and big circles on where the shadows are. I remember being on a family car trip and just sitting in the back seat reading this and my whole world just imploded and going, oh, mum, dad, do you know this?

Because I thought the magazine was providing the scoop. Sure, yeah. They were the first ones to get their hands on this information. Every week they discover a new thing about the world that the mainstream media would not touch. Yeah, and I just felt like, oh, this is going to be on the news tonight. Like this is going to be, the whole world's going to come crumbling down. But yeah, do you seriously believe that it was faked?

No, not at all. Okay. I don't believe that people are competent enough to get away with it for so long or like so devoted to the cause. I think people would just be like, look, we did it. Look, it's time enough to reveal. Or somebody would get a book deal and they'd be like, look, it's time to get out of the bag. I like the idea that one of those guys dies.

I like that idea too. I just like the idea of dying. So good. Yeah, your bloody precious moon can't save you now, can it, mate? Yeah. Yeah, good. So we're't save you now, can it mate? Yeah Yeah, good So we're right sort of in the thick of Melbourne Fringe Festival You're right in there as well

You're doing a show, tell me I am doing a show By the time this comes out, there'll be one more show of yours Yes, so hopefully it's packed out with listeners of this podcast Absolutely, yeah I feel like it's kind of relevant to the interests of people who listen to this Well, I was going to say, I was going to open with, hey, Tommy, what are your nerd credentials? Like, what qualifies you to be on a show for nerds, buying for nerds?

But I think if you explain what your show is about, I think we'll have covered that. Okay, so our Fringe Festival show is called Con Air 2 Con Voyage. Great. It's a live action sequel to, in my mind, the greatest movie of all time, Con Air. Great. And it's set on a boat, Speed 2 style. And this is the thing that we've come to realise is that it's actually, you would think that it would be chock full of things for the Con Air fan.

Yep. But there's actually more Speed 2 stuff in it than Con Air. So the DNA, the most progressive part of the DNA is the boat. Like the boat takes over. Kind of, yeah. So it's kind of like the... The dominant gene. Pretty much three characters, the only three characters,

or no, I guess four characters from the original Con Air who didn't die at the end. Yep. They're on a boat. Great. That gets taken over. And then, yeah, pretty much everything else just kind of mirrors Speed 2. Fantastic. Yeah, the boat runs aground at the end like it does in Speed 2 taken over and then yeah pretty much everything else just kind of mirrors speed two fantastic

yeah the boat runs aground at the end like it does in speed two where have you seen speed two yes it's diabolical absolutely yeah there's a bit at the end where it hits land yep and it runs aground and it looks like it just goes for like a hundred kilometers like it gets i just threw it into the city yeah yeah so we had this idea which we didn't do but we loved the idea of our boat in our show running aground and just going like going straight through to the other side of the country like just cutting right through and then coming out the other end but uh but yeah that didn't make it in but um but yeah so we we had this idea it's just me and my friends used to joke about it all the time how funny it would be if they'd done that. And then, yeah, me and my friend Kate Dennett,

who is a fellow stand-up comedian in Melbourne, we've written and put together this show. And this weird thing happened like maybe two, three months ago where they were interviewing the director of the original Con Air. Oh, sure. Why wouldn't they? Well, yeah, I don't know. I don't even know what he's done recently,

but they asked him about, because it's weird that they, it is really weird that they never made a second one. Yeah. Because it made so much money. Nicolas Cage was a star. Yeah. He was shining so bright. Man, they're all stars.

Yeah. Cusack, Malkovich, he got all these big, Kashimi, like all these big stars in it. And like our show is really stupid, and so they interviewed the director, and they said, you know, would you do a Con Air 2? And he said, yeah, I'd love to but, you know, it would have to be pretty out there.

Right, right. You know, you'd have to do something like you set it in space. Sure. And all the original criminals that died come back as cyborgs. Yeah. And we're like, man, he has made our show look sensible. Very, very much so. His pitch for Con Air 2 is dumber than our one.

It's set on a boat and has white-collar criminals in it. Was there a twinge where you're like, oh, we have to change this. We have to put the third act in space. No, it was kind of perfect, actually, because it was like, if his had been sort of kind of close to ours, it would have ruined it.

But I think that the fact that his is so... Because that's the great thing about the quote. He says, you could do it if you had it in space and with cyborgs. Sure. If the writing was really good, it could work. Absolutely. How would the writing be good for that?

Right. In those parameters, how can the writing possibly be any good? What you do is you just get the script for Jason X, Jason Friday the 13th in space. Oh, yeah. And you just chop out Jason and you just put in Nicholas Cage. Cyrus the Virus. Thank you, Cyrus the Virus. There we go.

Excellent. Yeah, see, that's the thing. That would be the hardest. Like, Malkovich is such an iconic part of the film, but they kill him at the end. That's a dumb... If you're setting up a big action movie, you leave a thread hanging.

You leave the thread, you leave the post-credit sequence where there's a lot of rubble on the street and his hand comes up out of the rubble and then you know he's coming back. Yeah, or just him goofing around and he didn't really... Like, that's our style. Like, bloopers over the credits. Oh, boy.

Do you think there should be more live-action sort of remakes or sequels to stuff? I saw recently... Oh, this was a couple of years ago. Just bring it back to the nerd stuff. Miracle Man is this sort of... this unfinished sort of comic book epic from back in the... like, to the nerd stuff. Miracle Man is this sort of unfinished comic book epic from the 80s. Neil Gaiman took a shot at it and Alan Moore and stuff like that.

They all partake in it. And a couple of years ago, there was a live theatrical version of it in Melbourne, like the first act, like the first four issues or whatever. So someone's rewritten the first four issues for this live event. Yeah, for this live event, yeah. I thought you were going to say the script is out there. No, no, there's no script. Like Confederacy of Dunces, where I was trying to turn that,

and they've gone so far as to do live readings of the script, and people go and they go, this was incredible. Why is it not produced yet? It just never gets made. No, this is just two really big fans of the show. Ah, okay. And it was kind of similar where they play a lot of different characters and stuff like that. And, like,

it gets to the end of it and it's, you know, it's Miracleman, this duality of this guy who's got this secret identity but he's also this superhuman or whatever. And he takes off all his clothes and he's fully frontal naked in this theatre. Yeah, right. And I'm like, oh, wow, this, like, when you take this, like, I really like the comic, but when you take this out live, it's really

quite intense, you know. Yes. This is so intense. And then, on the drive home, I'm like, hang book, but when you take this out live, it's really quite intense. This is so intense. And then on the drive home, I'm like, hang on, wait a second. And I went and I reread those issues. And at no point does he get fully frontally naked. This was completely unnecessary. You've just gotten nude for no reason. So it's just a guy who just, the guy who put this show on, just wants to be in the buff in front of people.

I think that's pretty much it. And he just happened to be reading Miracle Man at the time, and he's like, oh, you think it would probably be a bit of sausage in this bit if you really wanted to. Yeah, it really shows my vulnerability and my dick. I would. Yeah, it's funny that you say more live action things of stuff like that because I was talking to someone, and we came up with this idea that,

based on an idea they had that I then extrapolated on, that I love the idea of doing a thing that you'd call, whatever you'd call it, Masterpiece Theatre or whatever. And you would do, every month you would do a live one-man reenactment of a film from an actor's kind of catalogue. Oh, sure. But you would pick their least popular film by far. So you'd do it as a live show where once a month you do... I'm trying to think of it.

So you'd do like Mike Myers' Cat in the Hat. Oh, sure, yeah. So you would go through and you would pick what's the thing that everyone tries to forget about this guy that he ever did. And I love the idea of doing that as a series and really committing to doing it real justice. Absolutely. It's just garbage film.

Do you think people would take it seriously, though? Do you think you'd have serious theatre goers? Like, they're really getting a lot out of this. They're really seeing some themes here. Yeah, I mean, maybe I should... Out of the love guru. Maybe I should, yeah, exactly. Maybe I should pitch it to, like, the Melbourne Theatre Company

and try and get some big bucks. For Melbourne Festival, the very vague Melbourne Festival, it isn't really anything. Yeah. So, no credentials established, Tommy. I think we've, I think we've, are all comedians nerds, just generally? Oh, it's a weird mix because it's part nerds and then part real sports fans. That's true, I guess, yeah, yeah.

And sometimes operating within the same body, you know. Yeah. Which I find, yeah, which is kind of, I find weird. But yeah, I guess, yeah. Overall, are there more fans of Batman or are there more fans of like Suarez, who I'm assuming is some sort of soccer fan, soccer player. Soccer fan.

He is a fan. I mean, he's a fan of mine. You'd hope so, yeah. That's the extent of my knowledge about soccer. Suarez. I honestly reckon it's like 50-50. I really think it's like half and half. Love it.

But yeah, I don't know. The term nerd has become a bit muddied. It has, yeah. It's been co-opted by anyone who just wears glasses without proper lenses in them. I think it's, yeah. I think it's sort of the fashion industry is like we need more stuff to sell to people. So black frame glasses. Yeah.

T-shirts with, like sometimes you'll see somebody with like a Superman, like a, I ran into a girl at a party and she was wearing a Luke Cage Power Man T-shirt and I'm like, this is my people. I'm going to have a great old chat with her. And no, she had no idea what it was. And that's not her fault. She just saw it. She was like, this is a cool visual image from the 70s.

Well, mutual friend of ours, Carl Chandler, who I do my podcast with. Your podcast wife. My podcast wife, yes. He has a Neon Genesis. Evangelion T-shirt, yes. T-shirt that I think he just bought in Thailand because he just liked the design. And so every now and then we'll do our podcast and we'll put a photo up of us with the guests from that week.

And then people just on the photo on Facebook are like, oh, Carl, you like me on Genesis? Yeah. And then he goes, and then he responds. Who's your favorite Eva? He responds in kind by going, no, that's for fucking nerds. And then they go, oh, I just said I really like it. Yeah. No, shoot down your fans, that's what I say. Yeah, I would say I'm a nerd in the sense of I was a real indoor kid growing up.

So I didn't play sports and stuff. I preferred like playing video games and stuff like that, which I feel like is the true kind of criteria. Yeah, and I think you do evolve. Like now, like I feel you're like on the pulse of kind of, like it evolves from being, oh, I'm a nerd, whatever, to being on the pulse of stuff. Like any time you tweet about a band or something like that, I'm like, I should get into that because that's...

Well, I'm a nerd for music. I don't know if that counts as the same thing, but I do, like I spend a lot of my free time searching for music. Video games are another big one that I think mostly Nintendo. Oh, sure. And then, yeah, comics I kind of come and go from a bit.

But yeah, anyway, just wanted to back that up because you said we've established your nerd credentials, which until we got further into it was just me taking people's money to perform a sequel

to an action movie in front of them. I was like, I don't know if that really qualifies me as a nerd, but yeah. That's more a Kenny businessman. Yeah, exactly. That's pretty great. Do you want to get in the news?

Let's do it. Roughly the news. This is our news segment. Okay, did you see The Expendables 3? You know what? I didn't yet. Yeah, again, so just to really backtrack on everything we've just established, I don't think I've seen a movie for a couple of months.

It's been a little while since I've been to the old cinema. I'll be honest with you. A lot of the time I only go to the cinema because I'm legally forced to by this podcast. Sure. Legally? So you get heavily, you get an infringement notice in the mail if you don't go. Well, it's more, I feel it's sort of a gypsy curse. I've been bound to do this podcast forever. I think that's more what it is. Gypsy's the original nerd. There we go.

So the Expendables 3 did not do well at the box office. Like in the US, the first one did like $100 million. The second one did $80 million. And the third one did, I think, $38 million. I love the thinking of, well, the second one dipped down a little bit, so let's roll the dice a third time. Yeah, exactly. So Expendables 3 also not only did not kill at the box office,

but the Lionsgate who produced it were like, well, it's got to be piracy. You know, piracy has killed it. But it wasn't even – because now you can track, like, the top piracy box office, and it didn't even make that. Right. Like, it was, like was number four under Captain America 2 and Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Divergent. Right.

They didn't even crack that box office. That's wild that they can track the piracy box office. Is that so, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've got to be honest, I haven't seen any of the Expendables movie, and I should, because this is a Con Air show,

I've gone and watched a lot of the old... Because I'd never seen Point Break, I'd never seen Under Siege, which is kind of relevant to our interest because it is on a boat. Yeah, also relevant Under Siege 2 on a train. Yeah, well, I didn't get round to that, which I sort of had to draw a line because we were just muddying it by just putting too many... Yes, exactly. We just lifted characters straight out of Under Siege.

But Under Siege is one of... It's bizarre that it was a blockbuster because not much happens in it. For an action movie blockbuster, there's a lot of... Like, Con Air is just constant explosions and shit crashing into each other. But Under Siege is just a lot of sneaking around. There's a lot of sneaking.

There's a lot of sneaking and then... There's a lot of sneaking, there's a brief of sneaking and then there's a lot of sneaking, there's a brief amount of nudity for 15-year-olds. Yes. And then there's a knife fight. Yeah. That's pretty much. Like, I really like it.

But what a knife fight. Yeah, I really like it, but it's like the most boring blockbuster ever. Yeah. It's really strange. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I love it because I found it interesting to watch because it's so long ago that Steven Seagal and Gary Busey both look, they look really good in it. Yeah, totally.

They look like young dudes. And then Tommy Lee Jones comes along and he even then looks like 57 years old. Yes. Like he's always looked like an old man. Yeah, and he seemingly hasn't aged since then either. It's bizarre. Yeah, yeah. No, he's aged.

Oh, well. Now he looks like he's 107. Oh, great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, he's aged. Oh, well. Now he looks like he's 107. Oh, great. Yeah, but yeah, so Expendables 4, I reckon Expendables 4 they'll maybe do in like 20 years. Yeah, well, the rumor is the Expendables. It's going to be a female cast.

Okay. Yeah, but anyway. So who are you bringing in? Just like, what, the Charlie's Angels? Linda Hamilton from Terminator 2 would probably go in. What's her name? Leeloo from The Fifth Element. What's her face?

You know, that one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kate Beckinsale from the Underworld films. All them. Anyway, Millennium has formed a team of lawyers to track down and sue everybody who's illegally downloaded Expendables 3. That's the news here. That'll show them.

Yeah, I know, right? So what they get, they get that sweet money out of the piraters and then they can tack that onto the box office. Yes. And they go, well, we matched the $100 million and we're the one. Well, I mean, because, you know, if you buy a ticket at the box office, it's $20, but if you sue somebody for illegally downloading, you can get thousands of dollars from them.

Yeah, exactly. Which makes perfect sense when you think about it. See, that's the thing that's always threatening, isn't it? That if you've downloaded anything, if you've downloaded a movie once, you're going to be sent to the clink. See, that's the thing that's always threatening, isn't it? That if you've downloaded anything, if you've downloaded a movie once, you're going to be sent to the clink. Exactly, yeah.

And it's yet to, like I, years ago, I got an email from the, our internet provider at the time. Oh, sure, yeah.

Because I'd downloaded an episode of Dexter and it was like, they'd tracked it, like the, it was from the studio that makes Dexter had emailed our internet company and gone, we found this on your ISP,

so you need to take legal action on this person. And it was just that forwarded and then them at the internet company basically going, yeah, don't do that again. They didn't care at all. Why do they give a shit? That's why people are paying for hundreds and hundreds of gigabytes of their services. What else is it for? It's not for YouTube videos of cats.

It's such a weird push and pull between those guys where they're never going to but until they... It's such an empty threat. No one takes it seriously. I kind of take it a little bit seriously. Do you really? I kind of do, yeah. I fear the internet being cut off from my house and other people being really mad at me.

Do you have that fear that you would be that one unlucky guy that they make an example of? Yeah, kind of, yeah. And you download like one song illegally and you go away for like life. Yeah, or it's like $1.4 million or something like that. They've got some sort of weird algorithm to calculate it and they're like, oh yeah, you owe us $1.4 million or you go to jail. Because it would be that, wouldn't it?

It would just be you just, yeah, there's got to be one unlucky dude who... Yeah, they've got to make an example of somebody. Yeah. Did you read this story that I think someone told me this turned out to be fake, but this kid, what kids do now when they play online video games is to get people back.

Oh, they SWAT people. Called SWATing. Yeah, they call up the SWAT teams and say, oh, this guy's making a bomb at this address. They find out their address. And a kid apparently did that, and he got like 25 years. He's like 16 years old or whatever. For inciting terrorism or something like that. Yeah, because they had to make an example of him.

My girlfriend told me that she found out it was fake. Oh, that's disappointing. That's ruined the magic thing. Yeah, but she was going, that's disappointing. That's ruined the magic, thanks. Yeah, but she was going, that's a bit rough. I'm like, call the fucking SWAT team. Yeah, yeah. But apparently that's a real, like, because, you know, everybody's in with their headset and they're on their webcam or whatever.

You can see their, you know, their bedroom door behind them or whatever. Apparently it's just like, it's like a fun thing to do, to just watch them acting smart because they've beaten you in, you know, World of Warcraft or whatever. And then the SWAT team kicks the door in. I don't know if that's an actual real trend, but I kind of hope it is. It's pretty brutal. Like, it's kind of, like, yeah, my girlfriend felt real empathy for this kid who'd gone away. And it's like, nah, he sort of deserves it.

Like, good. That's a brutal thing to do to someone. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Great. Cool. More news. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Great. Cool. More news. More news.

Over that. Yep. There's a lot of, this is a news heavy, this is a news heavy episode and then we'll get to some other stuff later. Who knows? Yeah. Maybe we'll get to nothing. Hey, there's a lot of news in the world.

There is a lot of news in the world. We've got to go through it all. And this is the most important news of all. Yes. The new Deadpool movie has a release date. Yes. February 16, 2016. Now, I've, I was, I briefly was looking at this the other day.

Now, this is another one of those ones that's kind of sort of stopped and started. It's been in limbo for a really long time, yeah. And we had a preview of Deadpool in X-Men Origins Wolverine, which was not a good film at all on any level. Really just, it made people mad. Because Deadpool is like an internet fan favourite character. Because he's in on the joke that he's a comic book character and he's super violent. Yeah, I've read a couple of issues of it and he's sort of constantly talking to you, the reader, going, check out these ones.

Yeah. That is his catchphrase. Check out these ones. Someone should snap that up as a catchphrase. That's right, yeah. Because that's good. It's very concise. It gets to the point.

It cuts to the root of what superhero is all about. Ones could be anything. You just want people to check out these ones. That's all any of us are looking for is just someone to check out our ones. Check out our ones, our respective ones. So anyway, Deadpool has been a disaster cinematically from beginning to end here. And people are still holding out hope. Do you want to see a Deadpool movie?

You're completely indifferent. In this podcast, by the way, you're allowed to be from beginning to end here. And people are still holding out hope. Do you want to see a Deadpool movie? You're completely indifferent. In this podcast, by the way, you're allowed to be completely indifferent to a piece of news. Sure. You don't have to display any kind of enthusiasm for any of it. From this point forward, you can just be like, I just don't care. Yeah, I just think anything that is so frequently delayed,

the odds of it being good and living up to, you know, Chinese democracy style. Yes. It's sort of, can it be good? Like when it's been, you know, you see these things where it's like stopped and started and directors have left the project and you sort of go, well, I don't know that that bodes well for, there must be some reason why that's happening.

Like Edgar Wright walking off Ant-Man and you go, well, something's going on there. Something that doesn't speak to them having a good idea of what the movie... Like, someone comes in and takes it over. How's it going to be good when it's... Like, watching it knowing that that's what's happened. Yeah. I've said before on this podcast, I will only be happy...

Like, the Ant-Man movie, I'm sure it'll be... I have a lot of faith in the Marvel movies generally. I find them always generally quite good. But I will only be truly happy with the Ant-Man film if there's an interview with Edgar Wright afterwards and he's like, that's exactly how I imagined it. I know we broke ranks with Marvel, but they nailed it anyway. Otherwise I'd be like, could have been a lot better.

I know in my heart it could have been a lot better. I keep picturing, anytime I try and think of Ant-Man as a movie, I keep in my head picturing, what's his name, the old cartoon character, Atom Ant. Oh, sure, yeah. Every time I hear news about it, that's the first place my brain goes, is that there's a Marvel movie where directors are having a big fight over a tiny little cartoon ant.

Yeah, you're picturing Inch High Private Eye. Oh, yes, there he is. where directors are having a big fight over a tiny little cartoon ant. Yeah. You're picturing Inch High Private Eye. Oh, yes. There he is. Yep. Now, when's that movie coming out? Check out that one. Whatever happened to that? There was a Hong Kong phooey movie they were going to make.

No. Yeah, they did. They released a... Eddie Murphy was going to be the voice of him. Oh, well, that's probably it. And they released a CGI picture of... But that's where they're getting now, where they're just going into all the obscure ones.

No one has that much affection for Bollywood anymore. Yeah, underdog. Animated super-powered dog. Which was voiced by... Was it voiced by Jason Lee or was he the human in it? I think it was voiced by Jason Lee. Right, there you go. Jason Lee has made a lot of great choices and a lot of awful choices.

My favourite of his great choices is naming his daughter Pilot Inspector. Oh, yeah. And that is, I think, the hubris of celebrities, where they're like, I'm going to be famous forever and my child will be protected from bullying by my fame. I think that's what it is.

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who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. For maybe, for potentially 10 years or so, you're going to be yelling that name in the supermarket, at the park. So you've got to, if I ever have a kid. Pilot inspector with a K. Pilot inspector, making sure you get that hard K out. That's going to be my chief consideration is,

is this going to be pleasing for me to yell out in anger? Bluey. Bluey Dasolo. Bluey Dasolo. See, I've got a weird one where my full name is Thomas, but my parents have never called me that. They've never... They've got you told. Yeah.

People will often say they have... Like Nicholas or whatever. That their parents only ever called them that when they were in trouble. But my parents never even resorted to Thomas when I was in trouble, which is kind of a weird one. Just got the belt out. Great. Straight to the belt. Which they'd

inscribed Thomas along the edge of the belt. So it was printed backwards on my arm from all the lashings I received. Fantastic. We're bringing out some revelations on this podcast, and I think it's important. Can I quickly tell a Jason, a vaguely Jason, Oh, yes, sorry.

Is that okay? No, this podcast is nothing but a series of digressions. I should have asked. Is it okay that we just digress? Talk about Jason Lee. Yes, please, yeah. This is a bonus episode. Be grateful for what you get, listeners.

No, I'm sorry. Please listen. We were in Sydney a couple of years ago, and me and a friend were getting a lift. I was doing the Sydney Comedy Festival, and I had people kind of drive you around, and we got this lift with someone who was a driver for the festival. And me and my friend were sort of talking about times that we've met famous people, kind of embarrassed ourselves. Oh, sure.

Just stories of, oh, and then I said this, what a dickhead. And the driver goes, she's this kind of young lady, she said, well, since we're name dropping, can I give a name drop story? And we're like, oh, not that we were just sort of name dropping for the sake of it. There's stories of embarrassment, but sure, go ahead. And she goes, my, it was, I've been to Beck's house. Beck the singer, sure.

The musician, yeah. Because my sister is married to Jason Lee. And we were like, I don't know that that's really in the vein of the stories that we were talking about, but sure. And then I go, oh, wow, that's cool. And then I was just going, oh, man, I love Jason Lee. Like, what's he like? He's like, oh, he's the nicest guy.

He's so great. And one time we were doing this. I'm like, oh, cool. Just getting off on hearing all these Jason Lee stories. And then I think for a few seconds and I go, so Beck and Jason Lee, they're both Scientologists. So is your sister? And she goes, yeah, they're both Scientologists. So is your sister? And she goes, yeah, she's a Scientologist and I am too.

And I go, and it's like the only time in my life I've ever been in front of someone who's gone, I am into Scientology. All of a sudden you're in a Scientology car. Yeah. And the doors lock. Well, that's it. And so I start going, oh, just dickheading around. Right, right.

Because to me it's still, it's hard to, like I've never met someone who says I'm into it. And so I start going, Oh, just dickheading around. Right. Cause to me, it's still, it's, it's hard to like, I've never met someone who says I'm into it. So I'm going, ah, yeah,

let's go do some Dianetics or whatever. Let's go meet Xenu. Let's go on a spacecraft. And she's like, it's not a thing that you just go and do like we, but we can, I can actually take you now and go do it. Get a reading.

If you would like. Get an e-meter reading. Well, yeah, just to, just to the restaurant's fine. But yeah, there was a point in my life where I very easily could have found myself. Because I think that's how...

Like, yeah, I would go in and go, what a great joke this is to pretend to be doing Dianetics. And then Midwether would go, no, this actually makes a lot of sense. They flash a strobe light in your face as soon as you enter the door and you're like, oh, I'm open to new ideas now. Yeah. That'd be great. So anyway, shout out to any Scientologist listeners that you have.

Thank you. Email in, please. Yeah. We'd be excited for that. Anyway, Deadpool, blah, blah. Yeah. It's got a release date. That's fine.

Yeah. Are you excited for it? Yes, but I think they're going to have to walk a fine line between it being like a good genuine action film and being like, oh, we're all in on this joke and it's kind of a funny... Everything's going to be a nod and a wink. There's some test footage that was released recently and it looks really good. I saw that, yeah.

Who's playing it? Well, there's no confirmation yet, but since it was Ryan Reynolds in the previous one, 99% of people are hoping for that. But he's tweeted that, you know, isn't it great that social media and blah blah blah can get all this excitement going. Could there be a better choice than Ryan Reynolds?

He would be good, yeah. He sort of lost his celebrity shine though a little bit. His star isn't on the rise anymore. I would love to see him do, like, I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I I'm sure if I watched it now I'd probably hate it but back in the day I used to really love Two Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place.

Yeah, me too. I thought it was a really good show. I thought he was really funny in that. People were admitting things. Yeah, and he doesn't really do much comedy stuff anymore. Yeah, yeah. So I think he'd be a good choice if he was in that sort of mode. Yeah, yeah.

And if they brought in the other two from Two Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place. Definitely those two, sure, yeah. Was it Pete and Berg? It was Berg, yeah. Berg. Was Berg Ryan Reynolds or was he? I think Berg was Ryan Reynolds. And the girl.

Was Pizza Place. Yeah, they just should set Deadpool in a pizza place. I think so, yeah. They should make it a. What they should do is they should just package together a series of episodes of Two Guys, A Girl and A Pizza Place and release them cinematically. Well, they should have the Two Guys and a Girl and a Pizza Place reunion within Deadpool, like how they did that season of Curb Your Enthusiasm

where they did the Seinfeld reunion. Yeah, yeah, definitely. That would be real. And again, that's in the spirit of Deadpool. That wouldn't look out of place. People would be like, oh, this is so self-referential. These guys, this is next level. How far up their own arses could they get?

That would be so good. Okay, Ghostbusters news. Ghostbusters 3. Here's another film that's been in limbo for decades at this point. So, yeah, I mean, people don't really want it to happen. Give up. Bill Murray doesn't want it to happen. Harold Ramis died because he didn't want to be in it.

That's pretty much the reason. His dying thoughts were, well, at least I don't have to be asked about this in an interview anymore. And so, I mean, I guess I kind of want to see it, but at the same time I want it to appear and then just go away forever. And then I can just have Ghostbusters 1, just enjoy that and forget these sequels. Yeah. But now Dan Aykroyd has come out and he said he wants a full Marvel-style Ghostbusters universe. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't want to just do it and get it over with for everyone.

He wants to extend this pain for years more. Yeah, because he was saying a couple of – no, no, no. The story before that was that there was going to be an all-female version of it. And so he wants it to be – yeah. I mean, like, to be honest, I'd never seen Ghostbusters until about a year ago. It just escaped me growing up. So I don't have that. No judgments here.

I'm not the guy who's like, oh, my God, you haven't seen. All right, it's not. It's fine. So I don't have that. I don't really have strong feelings either way towards it happening or not happening. I can't see how it would be great. I can't see. I think at best it would just be like fine.

Yeah. Like it was very much a formative part of my childhood, I think. Yeah. Like I remember like we got a VCR at a house and I was so excited. I'm like, let's get Ghostbusters. I'm going to get Ghostbusters tonight. It's at the video shop. I'm going to get Ghostbusters.

And then I took it home and then I realized that Ghostbusters was on TV that night. And that's why the idea was in my head. Yeah, right. Yeah. Right. So. It's, yeah, it's weird. It was very weird watching it this far removed from it.

Because, you know, comedy of every genre of film dates very badly. Definitely, yeah. And it's, if you're watching that in a 2014 mindset, there is not a lot of laughs in that movie, I have to say. See, I was going to say, and I think maybe it's because I saw it so young, it still feels, like I've seen it quite recently, it still feels funny to me.

And like the special effects don't seem wildly dated, like they're not great, but they've figured out their limitations and are like, we won't go over the top with this. Well, the're not great, but they've figured out their limitations and are like, we won't go over the top with this. Well, the last 20 minutes, I really liked it because I like comedy films that sort of have a bit of action in them. Yep.

Like, and the end of that is just full on. Yeah, yeah. Like, just really intense and no jokes really happening. Yep. Like, I kind of like those movies where the character is all kind of dumb and there's a lot of jokes early on in the set setup and then the back end is just real commitment to just you know full-on action have you seen i think i mentioned this in the podcast before there's a film called operation endgame and it's got like zach alifanakis and rob corddry and adam

scott it's like a whole it's like an all-star cast of like commits jeffrey tambles in it yeah right and it's it's like a spy movie set in like an underground like spy headquarters. And it starts out exactly like that. It's like a wacky fun kind of, like it's all jokes and banter and these guys hate each other because they're an opposing spy team or whatever. And at the end,

like the last act is like this gruelling brutal horror film where everybody gets murdered. Oh, wow. Is it good? Ah. It's a weird change in tone. I'd say watch it if you haven't. I'd love to start a review podcast and I just have that sound that you made just then. Ah.

And that's what we use for, it's either, we either don't review it. Yep. Or it gets a, ah. I think, no, actually, I think it should be for reviewing, like, because movies are fine. Like, you can pay out on somebody's movie because you don't know them. It should be reviewing people's, like, personal, like. Life choices. Life choices, show, like somebody's comedy festival show or something like that.

Yeah. Like, what did you think of my show? Ah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, yeah, or someone, what do you think of their new haircut? Ah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or someone, what do you think of their new haircut? Ah! So Dan Aykroyd has said, look, what does Pixar and Star Wars mean to Disney? Like that's his, he wants it to be a whole thing. He said, okay, not just a movie or another TV show, but what's the totality of it? The whole mythology from the beginning of their lives to the end of their lives. Ghostbusters at nine years old, Ghostbusters in high school. I love that he's proposing this now. It's like, mate, one of you is already dead.

Yeah. But also, what I don't get about his comment is, how is he proposing to do this? How is he envisioning this universe? Like the Marvel Universe and Disney, you're talking about things that have been... They've established. For decades and decades and have continued to do stuff.

They haven't made a Ghostbusters thing in over... You can't just decide... What is he proposing all at once? They bring out a TV series of them as kids and then a new movie. Ghostbusters babies, sure, yeah. Ghostbusters babies would be great. But, yeah, I just don't quite get how he sees that working. I think he's got, I think he's had a lot of really grand plans.

Like if you've seen, there's an original outline for Ghostbusters and it's like they travel through parallel dimensions. Oh, wow. It's a lot, you know how in Ghostbusters, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, you know, kind of little, little vague references to like, you know, Tobin's spirit guide and all these alternate, you know, these, these, you, these historical mythological figures and blah, blah, blah, and they're never really elaborated on. In the original, they are very much elaborated on.

It is a whole mythology and a whole multiverse kind of thing. Right, so they have this whole idea from way, way, way back. So I think when he says, look, the beginning of their lives, the end of their lives, I kind of feel he's mapped it out in his head already. Can I tell you this quickly? A couple of years ago, me and Carl, who I mentioned before, who I do my podcast, my wife, Malaf. Thank you.

I've been waiting for one of those. We've done 50 episodes and I haven't had one of those. Where does Borat sit on the scale of nerd propaganda? So, yeah, we went to LA to do some podcasts and we were doing a live one at Meltdown Comics and a friend of ours who we were catching up with, who we knew because she'd lived in Melbourne for a little bit, we were catching up with her

and at the time she had a job at Ivan Reitman's production company and so she was telling us stuff about Dan Aykroyd would call up and you've got him on the phone and it's just that thing where coming from the other side of the world it's like even just putting Dan Aykroyd would call up and you've got him on the phone. It's just that thing where coming from the other side of the world. Even just putting Dan Aykroyd on hold on a call is like, whoa, you got to do that?

Did you ask him about Crystal Head Vodka? She told us this little tidbit about Ghostbusters 3 at the time. And we were like, oh, and she's like, but, you know, you can't, like I could lose my job if people find out. But she's lost her job since. Well, she's, yeah. So anyway, she tells us that and then. She was fired for gross negligence.

Yeah. Harold Ramis was killed on her watch. We were wearing a wire. Reitman had put us in a van and mic'd us up to try and test the loyalty of his employees. But no, not far off, because then the next night we did this live podcast, and she came along, and we're on stage, and Carl just starts going, yeah, anyway, everyone, guess what we found out about Ghostbusters 3 yesterday? And we can just see her up the back of the room going, no!

My livelihood. I came halfway around the world world and now I'm done. And she, yeah, she doesn't work there anymore. Great. I don't know if it's directly because of us, but I don't think that would have helped. But yeah, there you go. I think you're directly involved, yeah.

We can't be trusted, so don't tell us any tidbits. Okay, good. Don't send the Deadpool test footage to us. You'll leak it all over the place. We'll play it on our podcast. Yeah. All right, casting news. This isn't particularly interesting casting news, but I'm going to throw it out anyway.

Yep. Tom Hiddleston is going to be in Skull Island, which is the King Kong prequel. Oh. Have you ever seen a good prequel? Ooh. That's a very good question. Thank you. I'm all about good questions.

I don't know if this counts, but I thought X-Men First Class was really good. That is, in fact, the exception that proves the rule. I'm sorry. I think that one was good. Yep. I'm sure there are a couple other ones out there, but yeah, I thought that one was really, really good. Right.

I don't know who that guy is, though. Oh, he is Loki in The Avengers. Ah, okay. Yeah. Okay. And he's playing what? Some sort of British adventurer, one would assume. Mm-hmm.

So, the King Kong he's playing what? Some sort of British adventurer, one would assume. Mm-hmm. So the King Kong, so what happens, is this based on, is there like a, is this a thing that they're sort of, that exists already? No, there is no, I don't think there's an official, I don't think it's based on a comic book or anything like this. I think this is Hollywood going crazy. This is Hollywood deciding. This is.

So I don't get how this is meant to work because, so it's just someone going to find King Kong. No, this is pre-King Kong. They don't know he's there. This is Skull Island. It's got King Kongs. It's got dinosaurs. It's got big serpent things.

Right. Yeah. Right. It's going to be great, right? You're excited? I remember quite liking the King Kong movie. I went with friends who all hated it. And I have to admit I haven't seen it since. But I remember being quite pro it. I liked it. Yeah. You didn't like it?

I think I switched it off halfway through. Yeah, okay. It's not, I mean, it's one of those ones that you never, like it never comes up now. It's never on TV. It's like we all just decided. And it was such a big event when it came out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't see the monkey for like 45 minutes? That's fine. All right, fine.

Good. It's fine. God. Because when you get it, it's fucking, it's giant. I invited you on this podcast in the hope that we'd have some sort of King Kong solidarity here. This is what it's been leading up to, me hating the film King Kong. Well, we've had this conversation literally 20 times in our friendship off mic, so I don't know what would have led you to believe that.

Sorry, I'm so sorry. But no, I think that sounds cool. I didn't know that was happening, but I'm into that. Yeah, this is Hollywood running wild. I don't know if I trust Hollywood to not have an original idea. If you make something with the name Scarull Island good, just kill yourself. Thank you. Honestly, it's all there.

I had something else to say about King Kong prequels, but I can't remember what it is, so we're just going to move on. And if I think of it, I'm just going to jump in. Yeah, just jimmy into it. Let's do it. Okay, this isn't really comic book movie based, but I thought it was interesting. Leslie Mann is going to be in a new vacation movie oh yeah they're doing a vacation sequel not a reboot but she's going to be one of the kids all grown up it's her and ed helms i find it odd when they reboot a comedy yeah it just kind of seems like a weird thing to redo uh-huh like i

kind of think with like you know with superhero movies or whatever, there's kind of, you know, there's a lot of scope to play around with. There's sort of like, you know, how can you reinterpret the costume? Like, when there's a bit of mythology to it that we all sort of know, it's like, how are you going to deal with that? Whereas with a comedy, it's like, you're just coming up with new jokes. Why not just, like, make it, you know, why not make it based on that, but just make it a new thing?

People don't believe in new properties in Hollywood anymore. Well, yeah, I guess it's very naive of me to say that. But also, yeah, I don't know. It's a weird – You're like a babe in the woods. You're so naive. Does that brand like the vacation – is that selling tickets, do you think? I don't know.

I think maybe it's a case of 21 Jump Street. Yeah. I mean, that wasn't a comedy, but that's made a big splash. 22 Jump Street also hit. Yeah, but that was kind of a different one where that's a comedy film that's based on a TV series. It was a TV series, wasn't it? Yes.

That was sort of more action-based. Yeah, yeah. That they then made a comedy movie out of. I don't know. Again, I have to be honest, I've never seen any of the vacation movies. Huh. It's just me admitting to stuff that I don't know about.

No, that's fine. Yeah, no, I've never seen... Normally, I'm on the other side of this. Like, the actual host, the real guy, will say, hey, how about this? And I'm like, I haven't seen it and I don't care. And I never will. And you get it.

And I hate you. I know, right? Yeah. Hey, set photos of the Batmobile. Are you excited? You have to be. Like, I'm putting my foot down. You have to be excited for Batman v Superman,

Dawn of Justice. You'll change your mind when you see the Batmobile. There it is. Oh, there it is. So that's the actual one? That's the actual one. It kind of looks like a little... It looks like a little model, doesn't it?

It doesn't look like a real street. There you go, yeah. There's a video of it. It's got a backing up beeper. There's some, like, somebody was in a high-rise building and they've taken some, like, sneaky video of it. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it's backing up on set and it's like...

I remember there was footage of one of the final fight scenes from Dark Knight Rises that someone had just filmed in the street. And you realise those bits without the production of the music and the sound effects, it just looks fucking shit. It really does, yeah. So there's like Batman and like 20 guys and he's like... It really just highlights the absurdity of it. Like a bunch of grown men playing dress-ups in the street

and having their little protection. Little styrofoam costumes on. And I'm thinking, oh man, this film's in trouble. This is going to be really bad. Yeah, like a lot of, they're wearing the styrofoam costumes, they're not hitting each other. Yeah. Like through a movie, like they're a foot away from each other

when they're swinging punches, you know. Look, I'm sure when it comes out, I'll get more excited, but... Well, it's not... It's too soon for me. Yeah, this is one of the bugbears for me on this podcast. It comes out in 2016. Yeah. Like, it's not out for over a year, but any time anybody coughs on set,

like, we get news, and we're, again, legally bound to report on it. I'm not that psyched to see. I kind of don't like this thing that's happening now where stuff gets rebooted so quickly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I kind of just am happy to live with that last trilogy of Batman movies, which is so good. Yep.

I'm happy to just kind of live with that for a bit and give it like 10 years or something before you want to dip into that world again. I don't. I'm happy to just kind of live with that for a bit and give it 10 years or something before you want to dip into that world again. I really enjoy the performances in those Batman trilogy. I think they're good films. I don't love them necessarily, but I

was really affected by Bruce Wayne getting a happy ending in the last one. He gets in the last one. Like he gets to, he gets to go away with, you know, Selina Kyle and. And why, why is that not, why do you not like that? A lot of people think it's, no, I like that. Oh, you do like that?

Yeah, I really enjoy that. Oh, okay. People on the internet are mad about it. You also, when you said you were really affected by it, you like. Oh, in a positive way. Tears of joy. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah.

Oh, good on you, Batman. Oh, his eternal struggle. He's finally, joy. Yeah, a little bit, yeah. Oh, good on you, Batman. Oh, his eternal struggle. He's finally... He's finally... You deserve a happy death. You deserve a little Italian villa holiday. Oh, there's a light at the end of the tunnel for all of us. It's like you were there.

Yeah. Anyway, the Batmobile. What do you think? Yeah, it looks cool. It looks cool. It's got machine guns on the front. People are upset about that, but there's a long history of Batman just...

Especially movie Batman just... Especially movie Batman just kills a lot of people and gets away with it. It's funny how people get upset about those kinds of things where, like, because it doesn't honour the source material, which is just something that someone, one person decided... That was how it's going to be. ...to just draw that on there. And it's like, no, that's not how it's meant to be.

It's like, this isn't some grand sort of wide-stretching plan. Yeah, I mean, ultimately Batman was, hey, let's have a guy run around beating up criminals. Hey, let's give him little ears and make him a bat. Let's give him little ears. Yeah, check out these ones. I like how they called him, he's often referred to as the world's greatest detective.

Sherlock Holmes. Thank you. How's he feeling? Yeah, I know, right? But that is weird. It's like the world's greatest detective. It's like he's a, you know, I don't know. Well, see, the detecting kind of falls below the radar in the films, especially, I think.

There's more detecting in the comic books, but... Yeah, that's true, yeah. In the, famously, in The Dark Knight, there's a scene where he gets a fingerprint off a crushed bullet by pulling, like, fragments of a bullet out of a wall, and then he shoots a machine gun at the... Have you seen... You know that scene?

In what? In The Dark Knight. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he shoots a machine gun at a wall, like, at various bricks, and then he pulls the bullet out, and then he uses the computer to rebuild... He uses some sort of stochastic algorithm to rebuild the bullet.

But that's not detecting. That's just putting it into a fucking computer. Exactly. I could have done that. That's what I'm saying. Right. That is the shorthand for being a detective. Apple are the world's greatest detectives in this case.

Yes. His Dell computer or whatever he's running is the world's greatest detective. Exactly. That's right. Him being running is the world's greatest detective. Exactly, that's right. Him being rich is the world's greatest detective, ultimately. Hey, we've got some Shia LaBeouf news. Oh, yeah. We have a rule sort of in this podcast, listeners will know,

we don't talk about Batman v Superman and Shia LaBeouf on the same podcast. It doesn't make any sense. It's too complicated to explain, but I'm breaking the rule because James isn't here. Wow. And because this is so juicy, this is some juicy news. Shia LaBeouf lives in fear of a woman who is convinced he discovered the theory of relativity

and she threatened to blow up his house. Okay, cool. This is recent. Because Shia LaBeouf was in the news quite a lot a while back because he plagiarized a comic book story for his short film. The great Daniel... Daniel Klaus, yeah. Daniel Klaus.

Yeah, yeah. I never know how to pronounce his name. And then he apologised for that, but that apology was also plagiarised, and then it sort of looped around and around and around, and he went insane. I really didn't like that when he... That annoyed... It angered me a lot to start with.

And then his apologies where he was obviously copying things and people go oh no, he's doing a bit. It's like no, no, no, no. He still did this original thing where he put this short film out and won awards for it. That he ripped off this amazing cartoonist

with no crediting. And then it sort of felt like he got away with it because he was being self-referential. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just made me hate him even more. Yeah. So anyway, so what you're saying, you're glad that there's a woman threatening to blow up his house? Yes, yes. No, what I'm saying is that woman's me.

Oh, fantastic. So you showed up at his house eating watermelon on the driveway, and then when Shia asked you to leave, you screamed, I'm going to blow up your house. I'm going to blow up the world. You are Albert Einstein, and we belong together. Yes. I love watermelon. Great. That's me. So is this a comeuppance?

This is a comeuppance, right? Yeah. I feel like it. Yeah. It'd be great if that woman did turn out, all jokes aside. No, actually, no, no, no jokes aside. It'd be great if that woman turned out to be Daniel Klaus in drag. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah. That's been a bit all along. Yeah. It would be great if that woman turned out to be Daniel Klaus in drag. Oh, okay.

Wow. It's been a bit all along. Yeah. That would be pretty amazing. What if they were working together? No, I wouldn't like that. I love Klaus too much and I hate Shia LaBeouf. Okay, right.

Yeah. Fantastic. Keanu Reeves, also stalker news. I'm just lumping these together. He woke up in his house, saw a woman in her mid-40s sitting in a chair, just not saying anything. He approached her, began speaking to her. She explained she was there to meet him.

He called 911, and he was just chill. I like how someone breaks into his house and he's having a chat before he's calling 911. Yeah, totally. Now, let's suss them out and see what they're about before I call the cops. He's so chill. He's so chill, Keanu Reeves. You would, though. Yeah, that kind of blows me away, like, in Hollywood,

how they, you can buy maps to Starz Homes. Like, that's... Yeah, yeah. That's, and I've done it. I've gone on a Starz Homes tour, but it's full on that that's just out there. Did you see any celebrities when you did that? Uh, no. No.

I thought it'd be kind of a cool, dumb thing to do. And it's shit house because all of them are just like, just really high fences so you can't see anything. There was one, I think Stallone's house is like there's no fencing. You just walk up to the door and knock on it, which I found quite cool. He's just like us. Celebrities are just like us in many ways. No, I have a fence so he's just like us. Celebrities are just like us in many ways. No, I have a fence,

so he's nothing like me. He's a peasant by comparison to old Tommy Gasol. Yeah, maybe for really bad. I was like, I've got a fence at home. I thought I was kind of a bit like Stallone, but I've got nothing in common with him. You thought you were a man of the people, but you're a cultural elite. Yeah, I lock myself away. I don't want any 40-year-old women in my bedroom at night trying to meet me. Absolutely. Hey, this is, again, this is a cultural thing that happened this week and that's why we're all about culture, arguably.

We've all got you two on our phone now. Have you listened to the album? I haven't. What I have listened to is a podcast that I really like called You Talk and You Too To Me. Oh, sure, with Adam Scott and Scott Orkman. Yeah, which is great. Regardless of your feelings of You Too,

I'd recommend everyone listen to it because it's very, very funny. It's two guys who are very into You Too and they... Ironically or not? Not ironically. Huh. But they're just very funny together and they just do a lot of digging around where they don't, you know, they don't talk about You2 for extended periods of time,

but they go through each album track by track, and they reached the end of U2's current discography a couple of months ago, and then now that this new one's gone up, they've done it. They've gone and done an episode of this album. And what I like about it is that they're really into it, even though the press has kind of universally panned it. Except for Rolling Stone, they gave it five stars. Of course they did.

Which is absurd. Yeah. That kind of discredits your whole star rating idea, if you're going to give that five stars. The Rolling Stone, they never give anything less than three stars. I've never seen it. So they're dead to me, is what I'm saying. They never give anything less than three stars. I've never seen it. So they're dead to me.

That's what I'm saying. I haven't listened to it, but I've listened to that episode where they play clips of the tracks and talk over it. I feel like that's enough. Have you listened to it? No, I will get to it. The response to it is really fascinating. Profoundly negative. Yeah, but people getting angry about it being in their library without them.

Like, I think it's kind of cool that they can do that, that that's able to happen. You know, I understand people not wanting to listen to it and then they've had to bring out that thing where you can get rid of it. An app to delete it, sure, yeah. Which is a little bit insane. I was talking to a friend about it and then they've had to bring out that thing where you can get rid of it. An app to delete it, sure, yeah. An app to get rid of it, which is a little bit insane. I was talking to a friend about it and he's like, yeah, it's fair enough that people are angry because people organise their libraries and people like to have people, it's like,

just delete, who cares? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just delete it. It's not a big deal. I have to wonder because people, regardless of what people think of YouTube, people seem to be angry about the fact that Apple were just able to put this in their libraries without them having any say on it. And I have to wonder if it was a band that were maybe a little bit cooler or a little bit more relevant than U2.

Like, still they'd have to be a big band, but would people care as much? And I was trying to think of what a good example of a band that are that big, like a stadium band, but maybe like not a band that are like a legacy act, that are like an older people. Right, right, yeah, yeah. More current. Yeah.

Like a Kanye, for example. Yeah, okay. Who is still very polarizing, but is kind of more of the moment. Would people be more into it? And I think a lot of bands, like big bands, are sort of at a tipping point where if they did put their music on iPhones, people would decide they're not cool anymore. Maybe like Muse or somebody, they're a big stadium band, they're on the tip.

But if they do some sort of big corporate thing, like putting their music on an iPhone, people will be like, they're not stadium band. They're on the tip. But if they do some sort of big corporate thing, like putting their music on an iPhone, people will be like, they're not cool anymore. Whereas you two have done so much of that stuff already that it's sort of irrelevant at this point. But I was thinking, yeah, it would have been interesting to see. This is an insane example, but a band like the Black Keys, who have a lot of credibility and are now at a point where they're a stadium band and they've worked for a long time

and their stuff gets played commercially. But still in the grand scheme of things, a lot of people would not know who they are. If they had done it and you introduce – and people have made the point that they paid, Apple paid U2 $100 million for the album, which they don't need. Right. And what if they had instead given that money to – That is actually news to me, $100 million. I think it's $100 million.

Wow. It was a lot of money because this is the thing. Everyone got it for free and Bono in the past has been quite vocal about not giving music away for free and how it's ruining everything. So they've made a big point of saying, we didn't do this for free. We got paid to do it and then they made the choice to give it to you for free. Yeah, yeah, okay. But, yeah, people have said, which I think is quite right,

like what if they'd just given all that money to a bunch of smaller bands to record an album and release that and give it ever on that and maybe introduce people to something that they might end up quite liking instead of you either hate U2 and you're not going to listen to this or you're going to listen to it and go, no, I was right, they're still fucked. Yeah, yeah. Or you like them and you would have paid money for the album anyway. So it doesn't really alter anything in any way.

It's not like it erases some other stuff from your phone. It should have, though. That would have been great. Something at random. That would have been great if they'd gone through and they'd picked and they'd gone, nah, you don't need this Jamiroquai album. Out she goes, in comes your tooth. That would have been great.

Or maybe not even another album, just 100 meg of random data just on your phone, like personal notes, photos, whatever you put on the cloud. A few phone numbers that are in your phone, a few contacts. They should just do that with your phone. They should just add contacts in there of just random people. Well, no, it's done completely at random. But hey, there's the chance that you might get...

You might get Bono. Brad Pitt might show up in your phone. Oh, my goodness. He's on the cloud. But now Mum's not in there anymore. Oh, it's all right. But that's a fair trade-off. I can always call Dad.

You can go round to Bono's for dinner. Yeah. I can always call Dad. So, yeah, you two. Yeah, I think because Apple used to be like, you know, they'd have ads for their iPods or whatever, and they'd have ads for their iPods or whatever, and they'd have like a cool indie band playing over the top kind of thing. Well, yeah, I remember a lot of bands, when I was in high school, a lot of bands kind of got big from having their song featured in an Apple ad.

Yeah. I mean, U2 kind of had a link with Apple very early on when How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb came out. Yeah. They had that special U2 iPod that was black and red. And that, again, back then, that was

almost kind of the last shred of their credibility. Because they had that album that had Vertigo on it that was very popular when it came out. And then, yes, since then, it's funny to think back, like, they kind of did this thing with Apple that was the equivalent of what's happened with this Songs of Innocence album back for its time

because you could buy a U2 iPod that came with the album, which was kind of the equivalent. And it seemed like people at the time were like, oh, that's kind of a big corporate move, but they're kind of, I guess, a cool band that are on the radio a lot and now everyone's just like, fuck these all. We're done. We're done with your stunts.

Yeah. We're done with you being on the vanguard of music technology, you two. Yeah, well, that's it. Music distribution. Yeah. Yeah. We're done with you being the Jesus of music distribution. People hating it makes me want to listen to it, because I kind of, I like to be contrary.

Like, the more people on Facebook go, no, this is shit, I want to go, yeah, well, guess what, guys? I'm going to listen to it. I'm going to love it. That's right. How bad could it be? I'll show you all. Okay, last bit of news. Yes. So, season 26 of The Simpsons is coming up

September 28th. This has been preceded by, on FXX, which is used to be Fox Soccer in the US They did a marathon 552 episodes I follow a lot of Simpsons writers on Twitter And when it was on it was great

Because they were all just Throwing out a lot of trivia They were all kind of live tweeting along with it And throwing out trivia and rough sketches and stuff Oh okay yeah It was incredible. But with the time difference, I was sitting up at night a couple of times just watching four of them and they'd go back and forth and go, I remember that day and da-da-da.

It was really cool. Yeah, yeah. And they also had that thing at the Hollywood Bowl. I was just going to mention it at the Hollywood Bowl there. Oh, it looked incredible. For those who missed it, and you can find heaps of clips on YouTube because it was very popular and people got their phones out. They must be releasing it.

As a DVD. You'd hope so, yeah. This is the one time I think I'm in favour of people recording at a gig. Yeah, yeah. Because it was called Simpsons Take the Bowl and it was kind of lots of iconic songs and music from the Simpsons played by the Hollywood Bowl Orchestra and with guest stars. So we had probably the highlight would have been Conan O'Brien singing the Monorail song, which is the song he wrote,

the episode he wrote, one of the episodes he wrote for The Simpsons. Probably the most famous episode he wrote, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's amazing. And Weird Al did something. Yep. I can't remember who else, but yeah, there were a lot of big names. And it looked, the videos look incredible because I've got like around the kind of edge

of the bowl, they had like a projection on there of like, that would change. Yeah, the episode, the songs from the episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh man, it looked so good. It was, when it got announced, it was one of the handful of things that I've actually considered going to, just going over to America. Oh wow, okay.

That and when LCD Sound System did their last ever concert at Madison Square Garden. I genuinely considered cancelling my comedy festival to go and watch that. But then I remembered I had no money, so I didn't do it. So, yeah, season 26. And season 26 is... They're doing a lot of interesting stuff this year.

Yeah. There's going to be a fair... So you're talking about the Simpsons writers on Twitter were going back and forth and bantering. At what point did the banter stop? Like at what season? Yeah, well... Because apparently the ratings, like they just kept climbing.

Yeah, yeah. Which I think is weird because surely it would have dropped off after about season 12 maybe? Yeah, but that's the thing about The Simpsons overall. It still rates. Even though people quite universally who have been into the show for a long time say it's not as good as it was, it still gets big numbers. It's still rating well enough to be on the air.

So I don't know if that's an opinion that's really shared by Johnny Public. Yeah, people have told me that I trust to some degree that some of the later episodes, the current episodes are quite good. I caught one recently, a new one recently, and yeah, it wasn't bad. It was one of, it was a new one where they did a bit of Going Into The Future. Oh, sure, yeah. And I was just watching that and I was like, how cool would it be if this show just now became,

like every episode was set in the future, but like it's turned out a different way? Oh, okay, sure. Like they could legitimately now, like this show has been on for so long, and we all know the characters so well, that they could feasibly just turn it into, now that Futurama's off the air, they could just turn

it into The Simpsons does Futurama. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just hundreds of potential parallel futures. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because I love how they do it, you know, when they did that when they did the Lisa's wedding, which was the first cut into, when they did the Lisa's wedding one, which was the first cut into the future they did.

And there's one where Lisa's the president. Yes. That's a parallel future, yes. And it's like, oh, there's flying cars now. And it's like, guys, this is like five years in the future. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's funny when you think in real time, we've eclipsed that Lisa's wedding episode

where it was like heads in jars and all that sort of shit. The Lego episode I thought was very funny. Oh, yeah. I liked that a lot. But yeah, so this season... They're going to meet Family Guy. There's going to be a crossover. Yeah.

Yuck. Because, like, I don't know. The Simpsons has always been sort of... There's some sort of moral code attached to The Simpsons. Well, here's a bit of trivia. I don't know if you know this, but back in its kind of heyday, they did a crossover episode with The Critic. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was a cartoon that... John Lovitz was in. Yeah, John Lovitz. And I think two guys who were working on The Simpsons at the time, I think it's Al Jean and Mike Reese. I could be wrong. But anyway, two guys who were kind of head writers at The Simpsons. It was their show.

And they brought Jay Sherman, who was the main character, John Lovitz into the episode where they have the Springfield Film Festival. And the critic's never really been on here, but if anyone listening has not heard it, I would recommend hunting it down because it's one of my favourite cartoons. I love it. It's really, really funny. And so they did this crossover kind of to try and help boost the popularity

of the critic, which wasn't rated very well. They had to put him in Yellowface. Yeah, which, yeah, very weird. But, yeah, they sort of did it to kind of try and get more people to learn about the critic. And Matt Groening was super not into it happening. He didn't want them to do a crossover. He thought crossovers

are so kind of hokey and they're just it's just back padding. It doesn't serve either show. And he at the last minute, he made them take his name out of the credits. His name isn't in the credits for that episode. It's an Alan Smithy episode. It is an Alan Smithy, yeah.

So it's so bizarre for him to have done that. Like, if you know that story from all those years ago, that now they've got a year where they're doing a family guy crossover, I just... He's certainly changed his values in 15 years, hasn't he? What a prick. Yeah, I'll bet he is losing a bit of sleep over this family guy one day. Yeah, I don't know.

Some of it... There's also going to be an episode where they... It's going to be a treehouse of horror where they meet the original versions of themselves from the Tracy Almond show. See, that I'm into because I'm actually really looking forward to seeing that because that's... And that's a treehouse of horror, so it's like, that's fine. They're doing a Futurama crossover as well.

Oh. In the same... All in the same season. And that kind of works because the characters look similar. Yeah, totally. Again, they're either going to have to yellowface them or... I don't think they do. But that's the thing.

I've seen clips of both of these crossovers and they're not doing that. There you go. Just deal with it, guys. Yeah, I don't know. It feels like a real... Do you think it's a gimmick?

It's very gimmicky. It's a gimmick season, right? I mean, I'll still watch out of curiosity. The Futurama one I'm genuinely interested in because I love Futurama. Family Guy I'm not as keen on. And I think that's weird because I think that is a very polarizing thing to do. Because I think a lot of people who are real Simpsons purists don't really enjoy Family Guy. So I think that's a bit of a big ask.

Yeah, definitely. To get people to watch that show meshed in there. I've watched a lot of episodes of Family Guy, but I have no desire to seek it out anymore. I'm ambivalent towards it now. I loved it when it came out because it was so, the rapid fire nature of it. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, I just reached the end of my tether and went, I've completely had enough of this show forever.

Once you see, and it doesn't take very long, but once you see, you know, the gimmick of it, like it's just a series of flashbacks and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. There was an episode, I think, of South Park where we go into the family guy writer's room. Yeah, and it's little manatees picking out balls at random. Picking out balls at random, blah, blah. There was an episode, I think, of South Park where we go into the family guy writer's room. Yeah, and it's little manatees picking out balls at random. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, it just wears thin, and they kind of try to reverse engineer kind of having storylines about character. And it's like we're meant to care about the dog's love life. Exactly, yeah. Okay, sure. Yeah. Oh, by the way, meant to care about the dog's love life. Exactly, yeah. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Oh, by the way, listeners, this is the animation episode. We're going to talk about cartoons a lot. I've segued it seamlessly. But I thought I'd probably mention that now

because otherwise I'd be like, the news is going on a really long time. Yeah, that's probably my fault with all my constant digressions. No, I love digressions. They're my favourite. We'd have no show if it were not for digressions. Digressi Junior High. Oh, I'm sorry. No, that's good. That's the best joke you've ever made.

Well, I can die happy now. Yeah, good. So, yeah, because you strike me as a cartoon guy. I don't know why that is. I actually wanted to be an animator. The word cartoonist just has, for me, real negative, it just sounds so. We know some cartoonists. Yeah, I feel like you think of a guy doing sketches at a shopping centre.

Right, okay. I did when I was in, yeah, when I was in primary school, early high school, that was my dream was to be a guy who created his own cartoon show because I was super into who made what. I kind of knew all the behind-the-scenes. I'd find out anything I could, any kind of behind-the-scenes facts about the cartoons of the day. I remember seeing the Klasky Shupo.

Oh, sure, yeah. And at the end of Early Simpsons. They did the Early Simpsons. Oh, I did not know that. And a cartoon called Duckman and go, oh, that's that same people that did all that. Oh, yeah, And at the end of Rugrats and at the end of Early Simpsons. They did the Early Simpsons. Oh, I did not know that. And they did a cartoon called Duckman and go, oh, that's that same people that did all that. Oh, yeah, that's really cool. And then somewhere along the way,

a combination of falling into stand-up and also realising that that is not an industry that exists in this country. Right, yeah, exactly, yeah. I kind of gave that up, but I still draw quite a lot and I'm always trying to bring more of that into my stand-up. But, yeah, I love cartoons and I love that kind of nerd stuff of, like, how it gets made and, like, all the big sort of ones now, like Adventure Time and Regular Show, how they're all dudes

who kind of worked as sort of lower-level guys on SpongeBob. Oh, sure, yeah. Like, there's that kind of worked as sort of lower level guys on Spongebob. Oh, sure, yeah. Kind of path of like, and I think the Spongebob guy worked on Rocko's Modern Life. So there's that kind of real progression of guys kind of cutting their teeth. And again, which it just doesn't, it just isn't really that kind of. No. And there are people that break in sort of via YouTube, like maybe Rick and Morty. Was that a, is that a YouTube sensation?

Again, I have to say I haven't seen Rick and Morty. I don't know because the fact that it's the guy who made Community says to me that it's probably more to do with him just saying... Having some juice, some Hollywood juice. Yeah, some Hollywood juice. But sorry to use too many big industry terms on this podcast. He's got some Hollywood stuff. He's got some real Hollywood juice. He just put it out on the table and he's like, check out these ones, guys.

Now, that is fresh squeezed, pulp free Hollywood juice. Yeah, YouTube. But it's the same with almost everything with YouTube where five years ago it was like, oh, this is going to be where we find everyone. Right, right, right. And there's actually not that many things that have started out purely, like Broad City, which is a great comedy series, is one, but there's not really the, I think people thought that by now that's how everything would get done.

You would just make something in your bedroom and put it on YouTube and then it would be a TV show with a million dollar budget. Yeah, people would be flicking the channels on YouTube and be like, what's this? And I'm sure that day will come, but I think it's taking, it feels like it's taking a lot longer to kind of work that model out than people thought. Yeah, totally.

But yeah, you don't really see, I haven't really seen a lot of animation stuff come off of YouTube. Like, I know all those networks, like Cartoon Network and stuff, they're, they, there's a, yeah, they're really good at, like, scouring the colleges and stuff, and they'll do these kind of open, not open submission, but they'll do, like, pilot programs and stuff like that. What did you like growing up? Well, when I was a young lad in my formative years, I don't know, because I'm a few

years older than you. I don't know if you remember this. I can never remember how old you are, by the way. I'm 33. You're 33, okay. Yeah, but I look great, right? Yeah. Thanks. Again, that's what all this podcast was leading up to. You're telling me I look great. If I can just somehow get my age out on this show, that'll be great. That'll be great. So when I was school age, there was an after-school animation block on Channel 9 with Freakazoid and Animaniacs and stuff like that. It was called What's Up, Doc? Yeah, I remember that. And the conceit of it was that it was hosted by Kate Fisher, who was like a really bubbly

kind of bikini model. Yeah. And I think it was to draw in like after school dads and stuff like that. Maybe, yeah. I remember... In a series of very inappropriate outfits. I remember that block and I remember it being, yeah, very confusing as a young boy. Absolutely.

Because you're getting cartoons that you love. And then this thing happening in the middle, this girl that you... Because I was a little bit younger so I think I was still in the phase where I was kind of you know, like girls are still, you're still on the cusp of finding girls yucky you're not sort of sexually developed yet

but you get it, you're close you're getting there so it's like there's remnants of I think I'm I think this is good, I think I'm going to start to like this one day. Well, I was right in the target demographic. You're pulling it. You're straight up pulling it over what's up.

I'll tell you what's up. I switched over once and she was just wearing a Playboy bunny outfit. Like the black leotard with the cotton tail and the little ears. And I'm like, this is not for children. What is going on? So I think I have an inappropriate love for Freakazoid and Animaniacs at this point. And Batman

and the Animated Series. Oh yeah, yeah. I remember I really loved Animaniacs. I remember them hyping up Freakazoid and thinking it was going to be great and watching it and being a little bit like oh. Maybe I was a little bit young for it at the time. It was a bit too much.

Yeah, yeah. And I had that, that same studio that did Animaniacs and Freakazoid. They did a history one as well. Oh, yeah. They did a show, and that I hated because that was like, you're trying to fucking teach me something, aren't you? Like, you know that when you're a kid and it's like anything that's like trying to be educational. I smell education here. Your bullshit senses are just way up.

I used to get very frustrated. There's going to be homework at the end of this. I used to get very frustrated. They could show us this in a school. I used to get very frustrated when they would have, so they'd have a block of cartoons or whatever the after school shows were. And when they got to the end of whatever episodes they had of whatever show, the next day they would just start showing a new show,

but you'd get no warning. Right, right, right. So you'd tune in to watch. I'm trying to think because there were two that I loved that would alternate. You'd be tuning in to get one and then all of a sudden you'd get Widget the World Watcher, which was another one that was always trying to be educational where he's trying to teach you not to trash the Great Barrier Reef or something. You're like, I'm six.

I have no access to the Great Barrier Reef. And yet, if we were in school and they played an episode of that, we'd be like, this is amazing. We're not doing work. We're watching a cartoon. Yeah, exactly. But don't make us watch that. Animaniacs I loved at the time because it was very, yeah, it was kind of self-referential.

It was breaking a lot of the conventions of Warner Brothers cartoons and stuff. I loved the weird mythology of it. Right, right. These were these cartoons from the 50s that were too weird, so they got locked away in a water tower. Right. I really liked that aspect of it. Which is horrifying when you think about it, so don't think about it.

Yeah, well, my parents used to lock me under the stairs, so I really identified with the wacko and wacko and pinky. And I liked that they had all those... It's Dot. We're going to get letters. What? It's Dot. Dot. Pinky, Pinky the Brain. Sorry. But I liked that aspect of it, that they had all the...

It was like a sketch show almost, where they had Pinky and the Brain were on it originally, and they had those little... That weird one that was the pigeons, that was like the Godfather. That's right, yeah. Yeah, all these weird things, and they had the little girl and the dog, and the little that was like the godfather that's right yeah yeah all these weird things and they had the little girl and the dog and the little girl was always like almost falling

off cliffs and the dog was trying to protect her yeah that's yeah that's that's that's old school that is old school warner brothers and i had animatics video games that were a lot of fun oh i never played those between all three of them and you had to like go through the studio and stuff oh great love it yep that's great yeah what cartoons do you watch now do you do you all three of them and you had to like go through the studio and stuff. It was great. Love it. Yep. That's great. Yeah. What cartoons do you watch now? Do you regularly?

I'm trying to, I'm trying to get back into them. A lot of people on this podcast have emailed in and recommended Full Metal Alchemist which is an anime

and look, I gave one a watch this morning because I knew we were going to be talking about animation and look, I couldn't get into it.

Not for me, so. No. And to be fair, I've had like three hours sleep. Yeah, okay. Maybe I should try it again. Anime's tough, I would say. Okay, yeah. Yeah.

I don't feel like there's any real casual observers of anime. You can't watch an episode. I feel like you're either fully, fully into it. Right. Like, you know when you go to JB Hi-Fi and they've got the anime section? And there's tons of them there. Yep. I look at that section and I reckon you either own everything in there or you own nothing.

Or you've never watched it. That's probably actually a really good point, yeah. It really does seem like a thing that you're fully, fully, fully into or you're not into at all. Yeah, yeah. What about the classics? Have you seen some of the classics? Akira? Have you seen Akira?

Akira? Yeah, Akira I recently re-watched the other day because the first time I ever saw it was a few years ago now at the Graphic Festival up in Sydney. It was the first year of it. It was at the Opera House and it was a whole bunch of kind of comic-based events. So they bought Neil Gaiman out and he did a live reading of a short story that he'd written and I forget the guy's name, but someone had done some illustrations for it and then they had an orchestra doing a score.

It was amazing. And so me and my mate went up for the weekend just to see all that stuff and part of it was, so yeah, they would bring people out and they would do a big show and Yep. And then they would also do like a separate event would be like a Q&A with them and all this different stuff and they've brought out. It's still going. It's the second year they did it, they were going to bring out Robert Crumb. Oh, sure, yep. And it was the first year, it was the first time he'd ever been to Australia

and about a month before it, some newspaper published an article about him. Oh, I remember this, yes. About how he was a real smut peddler and whatever and he found month before it, some newspaper published an article about him. I remember this, yes. About how he was a real smut peddler and whatever, and he found out about it and went, well, fuck this, and just went and just cancelled. Yeah, yeah. And it was a real shame because now he's never going to come out. Exactly.

That was the window. And so me and my friend had tickets to it, and, yeah, then it got canned and they didn't have a big name replacement. It kind of, the festival's still going and they have some all right stuff, but I feel like they needed that second year to be really big and it's kind of sunk them a little bit. But anyway, that first year,

one of the events was they played Akira with a live score by the band Regurgitator. A band that I really love. They're a band of stunts, but they're also very great. They do do a lot, but they're a weird one. They're kind of of stunts, but they're also very great. They do do a lot, but they're a weird one.

They're kind of relegated to novelty, nostalgia sort of status. But here we're nothing but novelty, nostalgia. Very true. This is the place for it. Hey, Regurgitator should be on this show. I'll get him. I'll get Kwan. I'll get Ben.

I'll get the drummer, one of the drummers. Pete. Yeah, not the one who went crazy and left the band. Anyway, so they did a live score. So they had a cut of the movie that had all the music taken out. And I'd never seen it before that. And it was incredible. It was the combination of seeing this really full-on film for the first time with a rock band playing songs really loudly

in the opera house. It was great. And there were rumours that they were going to release the score that they did or they were going to do something, and it's never materialised. Simpsons of the Hollywood Ball Star. Well, yeah, I would love to see it with that score, but I kind of wanted to wait a very long time to watch it again

until I'd sort of forgotten it. Yeah, I went in the other day. I've got it on Blu-ray and it's – fuck, man, it's so full on. Yeah, yeah. And it holds up for something that was made 30 years ago or whatever. Yeah, I mean – It looks incredible. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

I mean, that was – when that first sort of came to Australia especially, like I was – I don't think I saw it like the first wave. I think it ended up on video before I saw it. But it just... It was so... It was light years beyond any animation weave. Like, I'd say to that point. And it still looks better than some stuff that gets made today. And it's interesting because I don't think...

It doesn't look dated at all. Like, if you watched a science fiction movie from 30 years ago that's live action, it would look like shit now. Absolutely. But because it's animation, it's all within its own context. It holds up better than anything else. Like the science fiction element of it, the futuristic element of it, you still can totally buy into it.

Like it's not like you're looking at it going, oh, I can see the wires or that's obviously buying a suit. Like, yeah, oh, man, it's a fucking full-on watch. Like it's insane even now. You just go, man, imagine seeing that 30 years ago when it first came yeah that was that was kind of the the selling point for when when anime came to to australia that manga video was the big distributor yeah and their push was this is the weirdest stuff you've ever seen yeah right this is gonna get real weird and then just the guy's face would open up and tentacles would fly out and just molest everyone. I used to watch on VHS, I used to be really into, they had this Street Fighter animated

series. I remember that, yeah. I remember the animated movie that came before that. Yeah, the animated movie's really good. Yeah, yeah. I remember loving it. And then the series was a little, the animation was a little choppier, but I just really, I always loved the Street Fighter games and, like, you know, there's such good characters

in that game that, game that I loved it. And they'll bring out a new video every month. And there were always ads at the start for other manga videos. And I was quite young and I just remember looking at them going, nah, that's too much for me. I felt like it would corrupt my whole life. I'm not ready for this. Like Fist of the North Star and stuff like that.

Oh yeah, where you just punch people's heads off. Yeah, I remember seeing the ads and just going, oh, no, because Street Fighter was people fighting, but it was still, it was like rated P, at worst it was rated like M, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it was a little, it was kind of still a little bit camp, like there was nothing that full on in it. Yeah, but then all the rest. Yeah, I saw, because we had the Street Fighter movie with Jean-Claude Van Damme, which was

dire, obviously. And then I was at like a, I've been to a couple of comic book conventions in my life, and I was at one, and I saw like 50 people huddled around this screen, and I'm like, what's going on? And it was like the Chun-Li shower scene from the Street Fighter animated movie, and I'm like... That's a special event at this comic convention, just playing Chun-Li shower scene on a loop.

On a loop, yeah. I would... Yeah, I'd like to re-watch that movie again. Yep. Because, yeah, I feel like the animated one was really good. Yeah, yeah. Also, something I've been, what I've been trying to get into lately, I haven't been trying to get into it, I've been enjoying it a lot,

Bojack Horseman, have you seen that? Yeah, I watched the first, I watched three quarters of the first episode. And you're done. And I don't, I don't know that it's for me. Look, it was on at, I was over at a friend's place and she had Netflix up and she was like, what do you want to watch? Yeah. And I'm like, people have been talking about this BoJack Horseman and we watched it for

about 15 minutes and I'm like, this is great. This is, I'm really enjoying this. And she was like, I hate it. Let's not. Let's not watch it anymore. I feel like I need to, I do want to give it another chance because I hate it. Let's not. Let's not watch it anymore. I feel like I need to... I do want to give it another chance because I love animation. The lady who is the character designer for that is an artist called Lisa Hanna-Waltz.

I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. I hope you're not. I hope we get emails. Pop that, Lisa. Coincidentally, I've followed her on Twitter for a couple of years now, and I love her drawings, I love her work, and so she did all the, so all the design of it is all her, like that's her visual style, which I love,

because she draws a lot of animals and stuff. And Will Arnett is great. Yeah. Paula Tompkins is great. For the uninitiated, BoJack Horseman is a cartoon about a washed up 90s sitcom star who's trying to make it become more relevant in 2014

by releasing a memoir, but he's also a horse. Because he lives in a world, we live in a world where anthropomorphic animals just live side by side with people. Yeah, and it's meant to be, it's sort of, the kind of joke is that he's basically, he's sort of meant to be like Mr. Ed, isn't he?

Yes, yeah. He was basically Mr. Ed on the show. He's Mr. Ed and Bob Saget from Full House, yeah. It's, yeah, I, look, I'm going to give it another go. Is it a disappointment because the cast is so good, but it's... Just for me, comedy-wise, so far what I've seen, it's not stacking up. It's just the jokes for me so far aren't there. And I know that's very unfair to say just on a pilot that I, by my own admission, have only seen three quarters of.

No, no, we like to prejudge here. Yeah. I've reviewed a lot of movies on this show that I've never seen. Okay, cool. Yeah. But yeah, there's enough factors for me to want to go back in. I've never seen. Okay, cool.

Yeah. But yeah, there's enough factors for me to want to go back in. And also, to be honest, I've only kind of really heard mixed things about it so far. Okay. Like I haven't heard, it's not like an overwhelming, but then again, it did just get, it's been commissioned for a second run. So, you know, maybe it'll, like there's a lot of shows that were, like Parks and Recreation when I first watched that first season is, you know, everyone says that it gets, it's a lot better from the second season

on. The first season I just found quite lifeless. Like, just like, there's nothing, you know, but once they, it changed a lot, so it can happen. Like, shows can get a lot better. I feel like I saw a lot of positive Twitter buzz for BoJack before I watched it. But in retrospect, I think it might have been just all the people who

were on the show. Well, that's... I can tell you, if you follow enough people that are involved in something, when it comes out, you're just seeing the retweets of all the people. You go, this is going to be the best thing ever. Right, right. Yeah. But no, I... Yeah, and I love the concept and I love the art style of it.

It's funny, though, because I follow a couple of animation blogs who... They're real diehards on there. Yeah. And they hate everything that's coming out now. Of course they do, yeah. Like everything like Adventure Time and Bojack Horse, everyone's like, oh, this ugly style of animation that we're obsessed with now. It's like...

You mean hand-drawn, is that? Yeah. Not hand-drawn, just that they're all people who are obsessed with the Tex Avery and Chuck Jones, the old, the really fluid kind of Looney Tunes style and the rounded figures and the real. Whereas everything now is kind of quite flat, quite blocky, which I like as its own style, but those real purists are not into it. Animation-wise, kind of being done on Flash and sort of very cheaply, where it's like people just kind of stand there and their mouths move and there's not that real kind of expressive.

The worst culprit of speaking out about that stuff is probably John Kay who made, John Crickfalusi who made Ren and Stimpy. Stimpy, right, right, right. He, on his blog, just tees off constantly about everything he doesn't like. Really? Oh, man, it's great. He's just an old crank constantly about everything he doesn't like. Really? Oh man, it's great. He's just an old crank who hates everything new. When I think Ren and Stimpy, I do think a lot

of, you know, cutaways to just like, you know, static images and stuff like that. Yeah, but Ren and Stimpy, they had, it's really old school animation, like eyes coming out of heads and, you know, not having this kind of rigid

you know approach to how the characters have to look. Right, right, right. Like their bodies will morph and their heads

will explode and stuff like that. Like Tracy Elman Simpsons. Yeah, kind of, yeah. So he I think he even hates the Simpsons. Great.

Like I think he hates anything where it's just the characters look like that and they just talk and that's it. Like he wants people to be doing backflips and when they walk it'd be a big involved cycle and stuff like that which i kind of respect i respect that he's into that real beauty of the old animation but

yeah you go on his blog and it's just him just holding up an ad or an ad that he's seen for a new cartoon network show and going get a load of this fucking garbage. And then also going, why don't I get work anymore? Right, right. Just because I'm going to hold crank. And I've insulted everyone in the industry to their faces. Yeah. But because you said everyone at Cartoon Network should kill themselves, John, maybe that's got something to do with it.

Maybe that's it. Yeah, totally. So yeah, BoJack, the voice acting also isn't great, I think. It's a little bit jarring. Like, there's a little bit... It's a little bit... And this is, you know, a thing that is... Big animated movies get criticised for is just getting...

Celebrities, yeah. Getting celebrities in. When, you know, I know in the past people like Billy West and those kind of guys, those actual... Billy West who does the voice of... Fry from Futurama. Fry and Stimpy Eonon Ren and Stimpy.

He's Bugs Bunny. He's the current Bugs Bunny. He is the current Bugs Bunny, yeah. I mean, he isn't needed all that often when you think about it. He, in the past, has been quite vocal about these guys who... This is their trained job. Yes. And they get put out of work by just getting Angelina Jolie in.

Yeah. Who doesn't need the work on that? Right, exactly. She doesn't need the money. She's not selling the tickets. Yeah, yeah. And he's right. Like, you see some of these things where they get, you know, like Zac Efron will be in an

animated thing. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, he doesn't, it just sounds like a flat, normal dude. Just a guy. Like, it's not interesting. There's a, from a few years ago, there's quite a long interview with Billy West and he's like, I'm Will Smith, I'm a clam. Like, that's the kind long interview with Billy West, and he's like, I'm Will Smith, I'm a clam.

Like, that's the kind of, like, he hates. And it's right. I think that was probably, the transition was probably Shrek, where we got Cameron Diaz and, Cameron Diaz? Cameron Diaz, yeah. Yeah, and Mike Myers and stuff like that. And it really sounds like somebody in a room who's not really sure what they're doing. Well, I don't know. See, Shrek is at least Mike Myers. You've got at least he's a comedian. We're transitioning

subtly into Pixar versus DreamWorks. Yeah, which is what I wanted all along. But you've got, like, you know, Mike Myers is at least, he's done a lot of character work. Yes. And he redid all his lines in that because he did a take and he felt he didn't have the character right.

Whereas, yeah, like that's okay. And Bojack Horseman is, you know, again, at least, you know, we learn at least he's a comedian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He knows timing. I don't know, like the dude, the Breaking Bad dude being in there. I don't. His voice acting is not great in that show.

Yeah, I think he's an odd choice. Yeah, yeah. And again, it's like, I don't know, you're just getting in for the credit of having the Breaking Bad dude. Yeah, yeah. I don't quite know. And Paul F. Tompkins is great in that, I think. Yeah.

He's probably the highlight, yeah. Paul F. Tompkins does so much character work that he's, like on Comedy Bang Bang, the podcast, he's always doing voices and stuff. So that's kind of his, you know, training a little bit. But yeah, you're right. Like DreamWorks, I feel like they just more, they got lucky with Shrek with those choices.

Because then they've done other ones where they've had like Shark Tale. Like who's in Shark? It is Will Smith. As a shark or something. Right, yeah. So this is the loaded question, but are you a Pixar guy or a DreamWorks guy? Oh, definitely a Pixar guy.

Who's the DreamWorks guy? Nobody, right? Who is the DreamWorks guy? Who is watching them? It annoys me when, like as someone who's really into all that stuff, it annoys me when people lump them all in together. Right, right, right. People go, ah, Shrek, that Pixar movie.

It's like, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, Shrek I liked at the time. I feel like they fluked it a little bit almost. I really think, I feel that DreamWorks aren't in it for the love. They're definitely in it for the money, yeah. Whereas Pixar, you know, you read up on those guys and you buy those art of books and they're all... I think it's changed a little bit now,

now that they've been bought out and they're just churning out sequels. Yes. You know, they were really reluctant to do sequels for a long time. It felt like a nerd artist enclave of, like, just all these guys who got together just for the love of it. Like, there's... If you do watch any kind of Pixar documentary or video, you know, there's, you know, the workspaces,

they love to be there. Yeah. They love all being together and stuff. Like there's a guy, he's got like just a regular office in the Pixar studios and it's just a boring old office with like, you know, a couple of paintings on the wall and a desk or whatever. But there's also like a bust of shakespeare like in like in you know the batman yeah west batman and you open the you push the head of the shakespeare and you push a button

and like a secret door opens up and he's got a like a speakeasy oh in a It's called The Lucky Seven Bar. That is so great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, yeah, I love, Ratatouille is my favourite movie, like my number one favourite movie. Of anything? Of anything. Wow, okay, yeah, yeah. That is a, I just, I was very excited to see it when it came out because Patton Oswalt is in it and he, well, yeah, still now, at the time especially, he was my favourite stand-up comedian

and knowing that it was Pixar favourite stand-up comedian. And knowing that it was Pixar and having really liked all their other movies. And I saw it when I was overseas. So the romance of wherever you were? Yeah, it was a little bit because I was in New York. It was my first time overseas by myself. I had been travelling for like maybe a month and then I got to New York and and i got uh i got gastro i was very very very very sick new york had been the place i'd been most excited to go uh this was when conan was still doing late night and i was going to conan and i was like i'm gonna go and

i'm gonna go to a taping and then i was just i was in bed for like a week straight i couldn't do anything and i was so gutted and then i like, I think I had one night left there and Ratatouille hadn't come out in Australia yet, but it was out in America. And I looked it up, there's a cinema around the corner and I went, you know what,

I've just got to do something. Even as dumb as this is, I'll go to a movie because a movie I'm safe. If I need to leave because I'm too sick, I can just do it. Like it's not going to be a big deal. Or just do it in the cinema.

Just do it in the cinema. Yeah. Which the cinema turned out was pretty filthy. But I just went in because it was the only thing I'd done and it just warmed my heart so much. It is a really

beautiful film. I love the message of it. I love that bit at the end where they just go reviewers. That is so good. Someone who does stand-up and is yearly subjected to all the debate about people's shows getting reviewed at the comedy festival, that big speech at the end about whatever we as reviewers have to face the fact that even the worst thing that we review still holds more artistic merit than anything that we create is just...

And I love it because it's like if you're reviewing that movie and you're panning it, you're doing so with that speech in your head. Yeah, exactly. I just love it. You are maybe a bad person. Have you seen Gremlins 2? The new batch. The new batch. I have seen it, yeah. Yeah, which is essentially a parody of the first Gremlins. And it's got the scene where they kill Leonard Moulton

because he... Oh, really? Yeah, because he gave the first one a bad review and he was nice enough to be involved. You know what's weird? I've seen Gremlins 2, but I've never seen Gremlins 1. I remember I watched Gremlins 2 many, many times. I used to have this weird theory when I was a little kid that if I was at the video store and they had an original or a sequel,

I would just go the sequel. Right, okay. Because I would think, well, they've made it better. They've worked out all the kinks from the first one. And the covers of the second one are often more exciting. I'd seen Ghostbusters 2 growing up, but never Ghostbusters 1, because Ghostbusters 2 has the logo and he's doing the peace sign. And then you look at that compared to the first one,

it just looks boring. He doesn't look like he's having a good time in the first one. He looks like he's being busted. Yeah. Which he has been. Yeah, which he has definitely been busted. Whereas come the second one, he's a little more at ease with the idea of being busted. Yeah, it looks like maybe he's sold out some of his fellow ghosts.

Yeah, he made a deal. Yeah, he made a deal. He's a snitch. He's a snitch ghost. The Gremlins 2 cover is kind of the same thing. Yeah, okay. A little bit more cover borders, but I'm being more drawn to that. Because I think it's got Gizmo on it.

Yeah, yeah. It's like, right, there's a little cute one in there. This will be way better. Yeah. There's more happening on it. But yeah, Ratatouille. My favourite is probably The Incredibles. I love The Incredibles, yeah.

It's more, Pixar do a lot of sort of meditations on getting old, I think. Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's it. Like Up as well, especially. I remember seeing Up in the cinema, and by this point, yeah, they've got so many runs on the board. Yeah, yeah, totally. Because, yeah, WALL-E, yeah, WALL-E I loved.

Finding Nemo, which is the big one that everyone comes back to, I like, but I wasn't as crazy. Yeah. I liked it. I really liked it, but it's not one that I am ever really tempted to go back to. I think The Incredibles also because it's superhero focused. That's kind of my bag here. And then that's your bag, baby. Let's bring that back.

Up though, that bit where his wife dies at the start. Yep. All right, spoilers. Yeah, well, it's weird to be able to spoil something that happens in the first ten minutes of the film. But that bit, I just saw that and went, these guys are just utterly fearless now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, they just don't care.

Like, they, that is a fucking, such a brutal thing to do in the first ten minutes of what is still ostensibly a kid's film. Yeah, like, Toy Story 3 had some dark moments in it, but they saved them towards the end. Well, I feel like that's, and then, yeah, you go to Toy Story 3 where they're heading towards the fire at the end and they're all going to die. You just go, and that bit where, yeah, they all just hold hands and look at each other and you just go, holy fuck!

Yeah, yeah. Schindler's Toy Box, as it was referred to a couple of times, yeah. My friend who's a big Pixar fan as well, after Up, I loved Up. Up would probably be second to Ratatouille for me. And there's so much happening in Up, but it never feels like they've really gone at all. Like there's talking dogs and there's all sorts of, you know. Oh, the dog is just fucking great. It never feels like, well, they've gone too far with this.

Yeah, well, that's funny that you say that. It's timed so well that you're like. It's funny that you say that. It's timed so well that you're like... It's funny that you say that because my friend's big criticism of it was that he's like, yeah, I really liked it. And then that bit at the end where the dogs are flying the little fighter jets, pretty unrealistic. I couldn't get into that. And I was like, I cannot believe that you were in it up until that point.

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, you're a Pixar fan. Right. Like, there's a rat cooking food. Yep. There's toys coming to life. Right, exactly. Now you switch off.

There's little robots falling in love, yeah. Yeah. There's, I don't know if you recall, about an hour and a half ago, there was a whole house being lifted by helium balloons. Exactly, yeah. Not only is that happening in the movie, that's on the poster for the movie.

Right, right. That's what you're paying money to see. Exactly, yeah. Not only is that happening in the movie, that's on the poster for the movie. Right, right. That's what you're paying money to see. Yeah, yeah. I love in WALL-E how it's like when they go back to how the Earth got trashed, and it's all like people these days, look at all these fat cunts and how they just left the Earth in a complete shambles, and you're just in the cinema going, ha-ha, yeah, they got us. Sitting there eating your popcorn going, oh, yeah, good one, guys.

Yeah, eating my personal pan pizza in the cinema and my giant Coke. Yeah, exactly. They are the guys. But I think, yeah, I think having been bought out by Disney, have they reached a turning point? What's up next? I feel like, I mean, this is a sad thing. Cars 2 is probably it, right?

I haven't been excited about a Pixar film in a long time. Right. I think the last Pixar film I was excited for might have even been Up. I didn't see Brave. Was it Brave? It was Brave, yeah. I didn't see Brave. I heard it was...

See, this is the rub that they've made for their own backs, is that their films are all so good that the expectations on it, like if a film of theirs comes out and it's just fine, or even really good, it's a dip down. Toy Story 3 would have been the last one I saw. No, I watched Monsters University on a plane and quite liked it, but that could have been to do with the fact that I saw it on a plane. And when Monsters, Inc. came out, that was my favourite at the time. I loved that movie when I first saw it.

That was my favourite at the time. I loved that movie when I first saw it. And yeah, the university one was, yeah, fine, but just really kind of a bit by the numbers. I think, yeah, I mean, I always feel like, I've always felt like Pixar's like, look, we're an ideas factory and when we think of something good, we'll put it out until then, just wait, you know. But I think now they're like, look, we have to produce one a year.

We have to sell some toys. But there used to be these films about these big ideas and they did, they used to really have these kind of grand kind of concepts and there was like these awesome messages in them and stuff and the way they would tell stories was so interesting. And then, like, you know, Monsters University I enjoyed, but it is really, it's like it's come out of a how to structure a screenplay.

Yeah, exactly. It's very much like, oh, he's down and then now he's up here. But they do, they have a new one that's, I think it's out next year that is a new one, that's not a, one of the only ones they have coming out that's not a sequel. Okay, interesting. That's like, You know what?

Let me look it up. Please do. Because, yeah, they've got like... What have they got coming down the pipeline? They've got... In the meantime... Nemo 2. Okay, yeah.

Here is the secret speakeasy. Oh, wow. Lucky 7. Yep, there we go. Oh, man, that's awesome. A little bust. There it is. Oh, so good.

That is great. Yeah, let me try and find this quickly. It's not a big deal, but it's... No. I think it's... I think it is. Oh, so good. That is great. Yeah, let me try and find this quickly. It's not a big deal, but I think it's... I think it is... Are you aware that somebody has built in a theory that all the Pixar films are set in the same universe? I have seen that. Yeah.

I have seen that. So we start with Brave, that the magic of that universe has kick-started an evolution of all the animals, which is why, at a certain certain point animals have become intelligent. Because what they do, because they love to put, they'll often as little gags, they'll put little references. Like you'll see a Woody on someone's toy shelf.

Right, right. It's just like fan service. Yeah, yeah. Which, yeah, it's funny that they've just done that for their own amusement and for the fans watching at home. And, yeah, it's funny that they've just done that for their own amusement and for the fans watching at home. And, yeah, that has led to someone being able to put together a whole theory. Yeah, yeah. Check that out, guys. Go to

john at nigroni.com. J-O-N. It's pretty great. Oh, is he the guy who has put the whole theory together? I think so. Or he aggregated it. I don't know. He's probably stolen the idea. What have they got coming up? Okay. Where is it? In production.

There's Inside Out? I don't know what that is. But then they've got The Good Dinosaur. The Good Dinosaur. Yeah. Like The Good Wife. I love how you go into their upcoming films. It's like release date June 16, 2017,

untitled Pixar film. November 22, 2017, untitled Pixar film. Great. It's like, do we need a release date for something that doesn't have a name or a director attached? We really don't at all. Yeah. Incredibles 2. Okay.

See, I'm back on board. Cars 3 at some point. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, so next year in June and November, they've got two original ones coming out. Okay.

Which gives me hope, which could be good. Are you going to see them at cinemas? I'll probably go, yeah. What's this one? So they've got Inside Out, Amy Poehler, Mindy Kaling, Bill Hader, Inside Out, fantasy comedy film, the film will be set in the head of a young girl where five emotions try to lead the girl through her life.

See, that's Pixar creativity. That's classic Pixar. That is great. There you go. They're back. That's fantastic. They're back. I take it all back.

Yeah, yeah. There you go. Okay. Sorry, Brad Bird. Sorry, Pete Doctor. Sorry, yeah, whoever all those other guys are. Yeah. Sorry, Cliff Clavin from Cheers.

Yep. Who is the voice of the dinosaur or whatever. Oh, yeah. Or Mr. Potato Head. One of those. Doesn't matter. Yep. All right. Yeah, okay. Also, Adventure Time. Sorry, Cliff Clavin from Cheers Yep Who is the voice of the dinosaur or whatever Oh yeah Or Mr Potato Head, one of those, doesn't matter Yep Alright, yeah, okay Also Adventure Time, I'm getting into that It's a lot of fun

I initially thought it was just for stoners The bugs Yeah, yeah But I've watched a few episodes recently and I'm super enjoying it I feel like that's a thing that must bother all those guys who make those shows a lot Yeah, yeah Because quite often those guys who make those shows are pretty straight edge. Yeah, yeah.

And then constantly in interviews it's like, you guys must just get fucking baked off your heads when you write that show. It's like, no, no, it's our job. Yeah, yeah. And we want it to be good. So we kind of actually just see the world in a different way and we just go in and we work. Right, right.

Tim and Eric would get that all the time. Definitely, yeah, yeah. And drive you nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Be a real Neil Armstrong situation every day. The full Armstrong. The, right. Tim and Eric would get that all the time. Definitely, yeah, yeah. And drive you nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Be a real Neil Armstrong situation every day. The full Armstrong. The full Armstrong.

Look, I think we've completely covered all aspects of animation today. Yeah, there's nothing left to learn. We haven't left any gaps, but if we have, email Tommy Daslo and let him know what he missed. Yeah, we went straight from the Flintstones, we went from Steamboat Willie all the way through to Incredibles 3. They should put the Incredibles in Expendables. Oh my goodness.

That would have been cool. Wow. Yeah. Or vice versa, just have some Expendables in. I dare say when they do the Incredibles 3, there'll be some kind of Expendables reference. All right. They'll have a reference to old... You'll stake your reputation on it.

Yep. There you go. Okay, so we're going to go to my favourite segment of the show. Yep. What you're reading. What you're going to read. Theme song. We're putting a theme song.

Yep. I might or might not. Who knows? I think what you've just done there is so good. You'd almost be ashamed to put a theme song in. I think so, yeah. I'm doing a theme. I'm doing a theme.

So what have you been reading? What are we reading today? So what have you been reading? What are you about to read or watching, listening to? It's a really vague kind of... Well, I just finished reading Colorless Tsukuru Suzuki, a novel by a Japanese writer called Murakami. I've never read anything by him before. This is the most cultured thing that's happened on this podcast.

Oh, really? Oh, okay. I've read a Playboy and the Dunny before. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I read that. What is that about? It's about a guy who, when he was growing up, he had these four friends

and the five of them were really close and all of their names had a colour in their name and he's the only one who didn't. And then one day out of the blue, when they had just finished school, all the four friends said that they didn't want to ever see him again and that he should never contact them. And so he's kind of lived his life just kind of drifting around and finds it hard to connect with people. And then he meets someone who sort of encourages him to go

and sort of talk to these people and try and find out why they did that all those years ago, so he does that. What else have I been reading? I haven't read any comics and stuff in a while. I'm trying to make a big effort at the moment because I have a lot of books that I've bought and never read or never finished. Yes, same.

So I'm sort of limiting myself. I shouldn't have bought that Murakami book, actually, because I'm trying to go back through and read. I just finished reading before that, This is the End. No, sorry, And Then We Came to the End, which is a novel that Josh Earle lent me about six years ago, and I just kept seeing it on my shelf and being consumed with guilt and going, I've got to get that back. So it's just me reading it, liking it, but sort of still under duress of just ripping

through it just so I can get it back to me finally. I've had that experience and I've resorted to just finding my own copy of it and buying it and returning the original. Yeah, yeah. Like rather than knuckling down and actually reading it. Yeah, so I, yeah, I'm trying to go back through that. And then I also, I've got lots of graphic novels that I, when I was first reading them, I went and bought all of them,

like one by one. And then they just sit on my shelf and I go, you should probably read them again at some point to justify owning them. So, Hundred Bullets and Why the Last Man are two that I've read, but I haven't read them in like five years, so I was thinking I should go back. Here's something I'm going to read, if you're looking for a comic book to get into. I haven't read them in like five years, so I was thinking I should go back. Here's something I'm going to read if you're looking for a comic book to get into. I haven't found a physical copy. I'll just probably buy it in Comixology or whatever.

But it's called Teen Dog. Oh, yeah. I saw Comixology tweeting about it the other day. And it's a wacky 90s story about a teen dog, like a Poochie-esque character. Yeah, yeah. It looks really funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Again, I've heard mixed things, but take a chance. It's a buck orchie-esque character. Yeah, yeah. It looks really funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it looks cool. Again, I've heard mixed things, but, you know, take a chance. It's a buck or whatever. Hey, roll the dice. I do know Dash Shaw, who's one of my favourite graphic novelists, has a new book coming out soon.

Uh-huh. I think it's soon, if it's not out already. Anyway, I'll get onto that. If you haven't, you should read some of his stuff. I'll read some of his stuff. Thank you.

I'll take that. Oh, I also watched recently, speaking about, you know, voiceovers and animation, I recently saw In a World, which is a film written and directed and starring Lake Bell, which is set in this weird cutthroat world of movie trailer announcers. And it's based around the premise that Don LaFontaine,

who's the honest real-world king of movie trailer voiceovers who created Inner World, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah. And he's since passed away and he's sort of left a void and it's these people who are sort of... Yeah. ...clamoring to make their way in this industry and... I've got it, but I haven't watched it yet.

...be the new Don LaFontaine and Lake Bell is trying to be a female voice in this world, which is almost completely male-dominated. And is it good? Yeah, it's really fun. I've heard good things, yeah. It's got Rob Corddry, it's got Dimitri Martin. trying to be a female voice in this world, which is almost completely male-dominated. And is it good? Yeah, it's really fun. I've heard good things. It's got Rob Corddry. It's got Dimitri Martin.

Yeah, it's really good. I really like Lake Bell from How to Make It in America. It's great in that show. That's a good show. Yeah. There you go. What have we got left in the show? Let me just check.

Oh, some letters. We get some letters. Feedback, yeah. I'll just throw in some feedback. Feedback that's not in any way relevant to me because I haven't been a part of the show, unless we've gotten some live correspondence in the last hour. No.

Okay, that's a shame. Okay, so I like the listeners to send in incongruous DVD packs. You know, you go to a... Oh, yes. And it'll be like, DVD triple pack if it came out or whatever, and it's like, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, Gattaca. Yeah, great.

How did that happen? The Astor Theatre in Melbourne is another big culprit of that. It'll be like, yeah, Toy Story and Fright Night. Right, exactly, yeah. So I get the listeners to tweet in, and there's been some great ones, but this is my highlight of the week. This goes in the Hall of Fame. At Philip Williams on Twitter, thank you, Philip. He's found this double pack.

It's Jeepers Creepers, which was sort of a... The original? From like 2001? Oh, no. I feel like that was a remake of an older one. But yeah, I've seen that film. This has got Justin Long and it's sort of a Texas Chainsaw Massacre style horror film, like

gore and etc. And they've paired it up with Hollywood Endwood ending which is a um it's a woody allen film about and you might be surprised that this woody allen plays a film writer and director oh yeah who who wants to make a film and and find love along the way yeah but then he goes blind and then he has to regain his vision, both metaphorically and literally. Can you do that if you go blind? No, I don't think so. I think he's buggered, mate.

But anyway, why is that? It's a genuine double pack. I don't understand. It's interesting to think, is it just two things that we've got the rights to? Because sometimes you look and you can find a very vague link. It's like, oh, yeah, someone's in both. There's a person who's in both of them. But that is great.

That's one of the most incongruous ones I've ever seen. It's great, right? When it's mixed genres is often... Sometimes it's like his and hers. That doesn't count. I feel that doesn't count. Thank you for sending them in. That doesn't count because that's clearly just two bored people in a couple

trying to figure something out. Yeah, exactly. Okay, one more letter for the day. James Senior. That's his name. He's not James Senior. James, but he might have a kid, in which case he's James Senior. Well, soon enough, because on August 22nd, while on holiday in Scotland, I asked my girlfriend of eight years, Rachel, to marry me.

Isn't that nice? As I didn't have an actual engagement ring, I propose using this. Green Lantern ring. Oh, yeah. That is a roll of the dice and a power move. Because on the one hand, it's this is what you're in for the next 50 years, is me doing weird comic book related stunts.

And B, this is your opportunity to cut and run, if you need it. I have been... And B, this is your opportunity to cut and run if you need it. I have been reading... Actually, I'm a bit behind it, but I've been reading Saga month to month, the comic book. Oh, yeah, that's really great. I recommend that. It's really good, yeah. And there was a bit in...

Someone wrote into the letters page and said, hey, me and my girlfriend, you know, the day the new issue comes out, we both get it. And it's like I get it on the way home from work and then I get home and I give it to her and she reads it and we read it cover to cover and we often scan the letters page. And so I know that on the day this issue comes out, she'll be reading this bit. And so what I want to say is, will you marry me? And so they've printed the letter. Oh, yeah, of course, yeah. Oh, good on him.

Yes, all this stuff. And then the book went on, you know, they took a break. They took a couple-month break. And then when they came back, they had the follow-up. They're like, so, of course, you remember the letters page this guy proposed? Uh-huh. And the guy had written back this letter and he was like yeah you know it was a day that i'll never forget i came home as i always did with the with the with

the new issue and she she opened it and then she saw the thing and she started crying and we we shared this moment and and you know she and anyway and look what we've decided to do is that um we'll get engaged eventually but for now what we're going to do is that we'll get engaged eventually, but for now what we're going to do is just kind of, you know, sort of live our lives and sort of see it's like, oh, so she said no. She definitely said no, yeah. We're going to live lives in separate houses and see other people probably, yeah. It was brutal.

Like I imagine the publishers of the book just getting that second letter back and going, ah, fuck. What they want is a photo of the wedding where they're dressed up as characters. The characters from Saga, yeah. Not this thing of him going, yeah, she's made me realise that it's just important that we both get our lives set up a little bit more. We separate our bank accounts and we just, yeah. Oh, dude. And how hard for him to have to sit and write that letter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes, oh, thanks for printing it, guys. And it was great and everything. But nah, this is fine. This is good too. And that's also the nerd pressure to provide an update. Like you could have just left it, but no, you have to. That'd be funny to leave him hanging, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Let's not leave him hanging. Despite this, she said yes. Hey! There we go. She's amazing. Puts up with my general geekery. Please can you tell her that I love her to the end of the ever-expanding universe

through the multiverses, alternate timelines and retcons. And thank her for being my own Wonder Woman. We absolutely cannot do that. Yeah, we can't. Yeah. Not with Tommy here. Tommy doesn't care for love. I don't believe in love.

Yeah. No, that's really cool. That's really cool. Does she listen? I assume she listens. She's probably being forced to listen right now. He's made her listen to this bit. Definitely.

Shout out to, is it Rachel? Rachel, yes. Shout out to Rachel. As I'm the official Scott Pilgrim of the Weekly Planet, can she be the official Knives Chow? Wait, hang on. He breaks up with Knives Chow. Yeah, I know, right?

I didn't want to say anything. I did it, but look, he's put it in and I feel compelled. Hey, Rachel, he's planning to leave you to someone older and a bit hotter. Yeah, who has no real interest in him but has cool hair. So, whatever. Also, would Nick Mason be my best man? Not really, though. Sorry, Nick.

Well, I take it all back. That is such a... Why would someone... You should be a best man at a wedding. I know, thank you. You'd be a great best man. Thank you. Even though you'd be in charge of the Bucks party and...

I'd ruin that. You'd pick something weird, I think. Yeah. Not go-karting. You'd be one of those guys that picks a real novelty outing. No, I hate those. Do you? I've been go-karting, paintballing, I hate them all.

Really? Yeah. I just think, just park yourself down at a bar. Let's all just get pissed. Have the obligation of some strippers coming in, even though most of us feel a bit weird about it. Let us organise your Bucks party. One more letter.

It's just from Penis. It says here, and it just says, make more podcast more often. The great man. We'll see what we can do. The great Penis is finally waiting. I love that Penis came in. You had the great crescendo of a guy proposing to his girlfriend. We had a really nice

natural flow and then you brought penis in. Just a capital of. Look, it was just there, right? It's just come through. Hey, Tommy, thanks for being on the show. You're all over the internet. Where can we find you on the internet? Well, I'm on Twitter at Dassalo. D-A-S-S-A-L-O.

That's me. I do a podcast called The Little Dumb Dumb Club. You do two podcasts. Well, yes. I'll get to that. All right. Sorry. Just let me finish. You're an old hand at this.

I'm sorry. LittleDumbDumbClub.com is our comedy podcast where we talk to people like, we've had Mark Maron, the aforementioned Paul Atomkins has been on a couple of times. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. I also do a podcast where my friend Sam tries to teach me about sports because I don't know anything about sports. It's called You Beauty. It's called You Beauty.

I've listened to that. I've listened to every episode, I think. And as someone who doesn't care for sport at all or know anything about sport, it's a really good listen. So fellow nerds, if you're listening to this and you want another podcast. I think nerds should give it a go. Yeah, definitely. Because I don't know anything about sports.

We focus on the more relatable things about sports, so the crazy personalities and the funny stories. And because it's me, just any opportunity I get to take it off into video games and other stuff, I do that. So that's at youbeautypodcast.com. I have a show where I eat food with comedians. Cheap lunch. I was going to mention that, yeah. Cheaplunchpodcast.com. I have a show where I eat food with comedians. Cheap Lunch. I was going to mention that, yeah.

Cheaplunch.tv. That is a little bit comedians in cars getting coffee, if you like that. Get that. Yeah, I hate it when people compare it to that. That was the point. Oh, yeah, we have talked about that, haven't we? Yes. Yeah, so there's that.

And then, yeah, if you're in Melbourne, my show, Con Air 2, Con Voyage, is at the Melbourne Fringe Festival. October 4th is the last episode. The last one. Melbournefringe.com.au. And yeah, I think that's everything. That is all your plugs. You've got them all out of the way.

That's all I've got on. Fantastic. Well, we here at the show are at Weekly Planet on Facebook, Twitter, and Gmail. I am at Wikipedia on Brown. I'll start again. I am at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter. If you want to say hi, I'll say hi back. Thanks to everybody who listened to our

Captain America 2 commentary Which you can find at theweeklyplanet.bandcamp.com I don't have a full list of people who donated But thanks to everyone who did And we'll hit you up next week That's really cool, I've wanted to do that for a long time Record a commentary for a movie and put it online It's great fun

Yeah, but people have really been enjoying it Again, just listen to it for free. If you feel an incredible odd urge to donate any money, that would be great, just to keep the show running. But otherwise, just download it for free. There's heaps of ways to do it, so that's good. Thank you to the Brute and the Basilisk for our various theme

songs. They are fantastic, as always. They always make me laugh. That's the show for this week. Tommy, we say grab dat gem. That is our sign-off. You need to say it. Do we say it at the same time? I'd like you to say it while I judge you. Grab dat gem.

You did it. You nailed it. That's great. We did it. All right. Thanks for listening, guys. We'll see you next week. Bye.