The Weekly Planet - 528 X-Men '97

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

The X-Men are back! And this time it's 1997. In addition to getting into the just wrapped up Season 1 we talk a release dates for Supergirl, Daredevil: Born Again and Agatha Something. Plus Spider-Man... Noir moves forward with Nicholas Cage as well as Tomb Raider, another John Wick spin-off and trailers for House of the Dragon, Rings of Power, Wicked, Dune: Prophecy and Megalopolis. Thanks for listening!New bonus Mad Max comique booque clubbe! Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:57 Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow Release Date06:13 Daredevil & More MCU Release Dates08:23 Spider-Man Noir Series with Nic Cage11:16 Lara Croft Tomb Raider Amazon Series18:06 Donnie Yen John Wick Spin-off Movie19:55 House of Dragon vs Rings of Powers Trailers23:44 Wicked Trailer27:05 Dune: Prophecy Trailer28:18 Megalopolis Trailer and Bad Reviews41:58 X-Men '97 Series Review (spoiler warning 53:17 to 01:09:00)01:09:00 What We Readin, What We Gonna Read01:18:22 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok â–ºhttps://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube â–º https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:53 ACAST.com. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Record on this as well. Yeah, backup recorder. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as well. Yeah, backup recorder. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. Okay, it's great to be here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:14 First of all, did you do that last week? Crack open a sodie pop? Yeah. Right in the middle of the intro. Wow. Let's people know that I'm hydrated. They worry about me. No, no, no, no. It lets people know you're currently very dehydrated. They worry about me. It lets people know that I'm hydrated. They worry. They worry about me. No, no, no, no. It lets people know you're currently very dehydrated. They worry about me. It's gonna make them worry more. So don't allude to needing fluid? Yep. Because then they're just gonna assume that I'm...
Starting point is 00:01:35 I think you should open by going, Damn, I'm gonna piss. I'm gonna piss so bad. Do you think I should start the show like that? Yeah, I think you should start the show. Because cracking it open means you are right on the edge of like being badly dehydrated. Just like having a bevy, mate. People are going to worry more.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I don't know, man. Look, I don't think anybody worries or thinks about me outside of listening to this or during listening. Try it next week. I'll make a note of it. Okay. So you want me to say, man, I need to piss so bad. And then don't open a drink.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Correct, yes. Even though I want to have a drink. Yeah. But just the idea of cracking open a drink makes me want to vomit and piss you could say Okay, I'll say that. Okay. I'll say it all because I'll remember Big week Mason huge week. Well next week, we know it's our Furiosa So we're coming to that aren't we but this week we're gonna be talking about x-men 97 Right, we finally both got around to watching it after it wrapped up last week. People are loving it.
Starting point is 00:02:27 They are. Some are saying the best bit of Marvel media out there right now. Yeah probably. I mean. I mean they're probably saying that and that's probably true. And some people are probably being sarcastic also. Who's saying, who's being sarcastic? I hope it's not you.
Starting point is 00:02:40 We don't do that here. So yeah, there's time codes below. Rob Collings who edits this, so he puts them in, doesn't he? He shot us. That's such a good job. Or you can listen to the news of the week before you get there, which also have time codes, Mason. We're going to talk about the release date of Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:02:56 More release dates for some Marvel stuff, including Daredevil, Ironheart, and Agatha all along. Absolutely. The one we've all been waiting for. That's right. Amazon Prime, they're moving forward with their Tomb Raider live action series. That's right. Nicholas Cage's Spider-Man Noir live action series.
Starting point is 00:03:13 That Amazon Prime? Yeah, man. We're getting another John Wick spinoff. Oh. With Donald Yen. Then we've got trailers for Wicked, Dune Prophecy, House of the Dragon, Rings of the Power and Megalopolis. I'll level with you. I haven't watched any of the trailers except for the last one.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Alright, we'll do a big pause. We'll do a big pause at some point. We'll figure that out, won't we? Well we won't and I'll just do it with guesswork. Yeah, it's fine. I'll say it. You get it. Dragons, etc.
Starting point is 00:03:40 You watched the Rings of Power trailer, but none of the others. No, I watched Megalopolis, but no. Oh, okay. Okay. I was going to say Mason. But yeah, then there's all Megalopolis news. Those of you who don't know, it's Francis Ford Coppola's late. Because you want to Megalop me own bloody head off. Well, we don't know that yet because you know, there's the critics, they're in some of them.
Starting point is 00:03:59 So one quote says it makes me want to Megalop my head off. Because of how bad and confusing it was. Yeah. Some people are saying. But some people that in a good way, some people love it. And somebody was like, well, maybe I'll mega lop your head off. What? Buddy.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Well, that's crazy. Don't call me buddy pal. We were different reviews, I think. Ones I got are different. We've also got this whole article about like... I went to reviews for idiots.com. Oh, yeah. Your own website.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for letting me plug it. You're welcome. And there's a whole article that I go through talking about just the making of this and what a nightmare, which I love. I love this stuff. This is all the stuff. No, I know. I just mean, somebody doing something like this, and they've clearly gone insane. Absolutely. That's what I love. Those elements. Yeah, I enjoy and it might just be age or maybe he's a genius. We don't know yet. I don't think it's that last one. We'll find out. Yeah. Anyways, Mason Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, which is of course
Starting point is 00:04:58 the upcoming live action Supergirl movie. It's based on the Tom King comic of the same name. That's right. Give it a read if you haven't. It goes on a quest across the universe. Pretty exciting. That's right. It's got a release date of June 26 2026. That's handy to remember. Agreed. The 6th of the 6th. That's right. 26. That's right. The number of the beast plus 20 more. So dehydrated. Dumb money director. No, James. That doesn't play with our audiences. I need to piss so much. Better. But too much.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Dunmoney Director. They're loving that. James, they're loving it. Dunmoney Director. Do you watch Dunmoney about the GameStop thing? No, I didn't watch that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's happening again, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:41 It's kicking off. Now's a good time to get in, actually. You think so? This is financial advice. Oh, no. Yeah, the price has spiked. And that's when you buy't it? It's kicking off. Now's a good time to get in actually. You think so? This is financial advice. Oh no. Yeah, the price has spiked and that's when you buy. That's what you want. Financial advice from a man who's desperate for a piss. I'll stop doing this now. No you don't have to.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Because it becomes funny again to me. In which case I will. Don't buy these actually. Or do, do whatever. None of this is, do what you want. I'm not responsible. I'm only responsible for my own own bladder So dumb money director Craig Gillespie will direct and Anna Nogueira is playing as pending the screenplay to resting. So you gots two years away. Okay What is this director number four? I'm just looking that up right? Oh the director. That's a great question I was all the writer both of those people right now, but they both seem like people of notes She was on the Michael J Fox show. Family type. No not that one. Spin City? No Mason. Something about Michael J Fox and his family
Starting point is 00:06:33 etc. Hightown? Is that a good show? I don't know. I don't know either. Is that about the family of Hightown from Police Academy? Yes that's right. Wow. Seems to be getting good reviews. Very pretty. Cool. Alright so stars thing. She's got stars I don't know. I don't know what's going on with stars. I just don't know. And Craig Gillespie is related to jazz performer Dizzy Gillespie. Yes, he is. That's interesting. I did Corrella and I, Tonya. Okay, people like I, Tonya. Yeah. Also, Corrella's not terrible. Okay. But do people love it? It's like, it's like Wonka. You've seen Wonka. It's Wonka. I have. It's Corrella. So. You've seen Wonka. You've seen them all. You've seen them all. That's right. So there you go. 2026. More dates though. Daredevil Born Again got dated
Starting point is 00:07:13 March 2025. Okay. After extensive reshoots. Okay. Well, that's sooner than Supergirl. So that'll tide us over until Supergirl. God, the first Daredevil, I think it's going to be 10 years, more than 10 years after the first one came out. So that that's pretty crazy what if in the first episode he throws out his back and he can't do it anymore not the actor it's relatable but the character does what they are now they both should just schlepping around just schlepping about I need someone to replace me not iron fist someone else anyone literally anyone uh kingpin yeah that's fine um Ironheart just dated for 2025. That's never coming out. I don't know what that means. Never coming out. But Agatha all along it's got its final name change. It took us on a merry chase. What a merry chase. What an incredible joke that like three people are in on. It doesn't work and it's based on the popularity of a novelty song from many years ago. Yeah. But nobody remembers it anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:05 2020 maybe? Maybe, yeah. Yeah, anyway, that's starting on September 18th. And it's going to have a two-episode premiere. And it's going to go week to week from that. Not that I don't love the work of Catherine Haun. Of course. But, and anything can be good.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's got, well, it's got Aubury Plaza. Oh yeah. And it's four to five years too late. That's so true. And that's good. Both things in its favour. So yeah. That's cool. I mean, WandaVision was great.
Starting point is 00:08:26 We all had a good time. I remember when WandaVision came out and went, Marvel Television will never stop. It'll never die. That's right, it'll always be good, we'd say. That's right. We said Marvel Television, Disney Television, always good, never gonna die.
Starting point is 00:08:35 None of our TV stars will be run over by a snowplow, they said, which was such a weirdly specific thing to say. That is in retrospect. God, that's so specific, isn't it? Yeah. You know? Yeah, I don't know, man. Paul Bettany was run over by one of those things that flattens ice on a hockey rink. Was he? A Zamboni.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Wow. He got Zamboni. Did you know that? Sounds like he got him with the mob. That's what it sounds like. That's a mob death mason. We all know what's happening here. And also, we'll jump to Spider-Man. Also not there. Armour Wars, whatever that is now. Movie again? TV show. Yeah, I think it's a movie again. That's out again. Movie again. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Rhodey's in it, and he's like, I'm real, I'm not an alien maybe. Yeah. And I got all my memories or something. That's right. From whenever this happened. Electricity went through my brain, and I got all my memories again.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Don't even worry about it. We're never gonna mention it. No, but as rumoured, we knew this series was coming. They're doing a Spider-man noir series on MGM plus Okay That's you know old-timey logo old-timey series MGM plus really well I think are they in the know cuz Amazon are in MGM. Yes, they do. So that's yeah part of that
Starting point is 00:09:39 Oh, yeah, sure. I guess it's just a production wing of Yeah, sure. I guess it's just a production wing of I don't know who owns anybody anymore. It's okay because they kept all the black and white sets from the olden times Did I all the old movies or your Humphrey Bogart's and whatever they just kept the old sets painted black and white Yeah, that's right. They didn't they kept all the black and white makeup you put on people So they're black and white when they go on the set. Yeah, that doesn't contrast weirdly. That's really good You know they used to think about this stuff in the olden days. Yeah. Now if they made a black and white movie, all the actors would be in regular makeup and it'd be in color. Embarrassing. What? Yeah. They know what they're doing. No, they don't. Because they've greenlit
Starting point is 00:10:15 all this stuff we just talked about, which sounds bad. No, Spider-Man does sound good. The synopsis sounded a little bit interesting to me. Is it something along the lines of, it's a man reckoning with the fact that he was one of his own superhero? In an alternate 1930s New York, more focused on an older and more experienced hero. And it sounds to me like he used to be a Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:10:37 That's what I'm saying. And then he's not in the costume, et cetera. Nicolas Cage is 55. That's where I'm going with that. Oh yeah, Nicolas Cage is reprising the role, by the way. And this is live action or animated? This is live action. Okay, so yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I mean what it suggested to me, the specific phrasing of it suggested to me that it's about he was a superhero. So I think there might be some illusions to be. Oh, you think he'll suit up at the end or in a flashback? No, he'll wear the noir suit, I think. But I think he'll mostly be maskless if I had to guess. Yeah. Or he gets a lot of money to someone else does it. Body double, sure. Yeah, yeah. He'll get the Mandalorian if I had to guess. Yeah. Or he gets a lot of money to someone else does.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Body double, sure. Yeah. You'll get the Mandalorian body double guy. Exactly. He's on the payroll. Yeah. Whatever his name is. He needs another job.
Starting point is 00:11:14 They're probably not paying him enough. You probably just do these back to back. It's cost us Mandalorian. Remember him? Australia's own? Yeah. Mandalorian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Also on the topic of Spider-Man things that will probably get canceled or something. Spider-Man that's animated No, well, yeah, but freshman year, right? Yeah, that's happened in prime video Apparently have dropped Sony's silk spider society, which would have centered on Cindy moon now. This might go somewhere else I would say it's not I remember hearing rumblings of this after Madame Webb came out. I think they went oh girl spider-man rumblings of this after Madame Webb came out and I think they went oh girl spider-man that you know you should have made a good movie we were planning on only showing silk in costume for two minutes every episode so I don't know well and that's that kind of ruined Madame Webb didn't it which one Cindy
Starting point is 00:11:57 moon she ah she didn't live in society for a long time she was screw all the way or something yeah that's for a, that's my vague notion of that character. Yeah, cool. I like the costume. Yeah, I think it lost a bunch of creative people along the way and whatever. So that's probably not happening. But what is happening apparently on Amazon Prime also, they've greenlit Phoebe Waller-Bridge's Tomb Raider series.
Starting point is 00:12:20 That's right. She's going to be a writer and executive producer, but they haven't cast Lara Croft as a guest. She's not going to be the Tomb Raider. She's not going to be a Tomb Raider. She'll probably be Tomb Raider's mother in a flashback. Yes, that's right. And she'll be like, you can do anything including being a Tomb Raider. But don't be any tomb. Don't do any Tomb Raider. Oh, don't do it. Yeah, she's too posh. We're from a...
Starting point is 00:12:36 We're a posh family of not tomb raiding. We're not doing tomb raiding. No, no, no. Young lady, you climb out of that attic and stop pretending to be a Tomb Raider. And here's your... your father's here and he's the same, he's Prince Charles. I'm here, I don't have time to be a father, I gotta go find a watch in a cave. Exactly, that's right, but don't you come follow me, I'll be back, don't follow me to do a tomb raid finding a watch in a cave. If I disappear for 20 years, I won't, don't worry about it, I'll be back definitely. Also, I'm not cheating on your mother. Just, I just throw that in there.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And if you lock the butler in the pantry again, I swear to God... It happened in the game, remember? I swear to God, I won't let him out. He'll die in there. That's right. And it'll be some of your fault and some of my fault. It will be a family secret. It's very well abridged, so this could be good actually.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Absolutely. I like Tomb Raider in general. I think the Tomb Raider IP on the whole, pretty good run. Now is Phoebe Waller-Bridge, did she get a $60 million deal or something to develop projects for Amazon? Oh, that's interesting, yeah. Was that a good deal? Probably.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Then she hasn't produced anything until now. Well, she was going to do Mr. and Mrs. Smith, which we can talk about also. Yeah. Yep, received a $60 million deal with Amazon for making a new show apparently. What does that mean, I wonder? Development. Like, is she given, they're like,
Starting point is 00:13:58 well, we'll free up $60 million of budget to make a thing, or are they like, we will give you $60 million and you can do with it what you wish? Or it some great question somewhere in between I don't know when JJ Abrams got that massive deal Yeah, yeah, I flicks and what have you did he make anything? What about the Game of Thrones guys they get a huge eventually made three-body problem, oh, that's true They did but yeah, well, it's like the they gave Eventually made three body problem. Oh, that's true. They did but yeah, well, it's like the they gave Prince redhead and and whatever they gave them an Amazon deal the guy who left the royal family. Oh
Starting point is 00:14:32 Sorry, yeah spot a Spotify deal and they did like it well They made a few things and people like oh this sucks. Yeah, this is bad and they're boring. Yeah, so there you go He's always dehydrated to a dangerous degree. And so they were like, nobody could relate to that. Can't relate to that. I said, like, he's in danger. So it was $60 million over three years. But what does she do? Because it's confusing.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Somebody out there must know if you get a $60 million production deal, because that would suggest they give her $20 million a year, but if she's not producing $20 million worth of stuff. I think it's I think it's you get $60 million and then you make stuff for them. I think that that's my understanding. Because if it was just like, we'll give you $60 million and you can make something with this, you'd be like, well, what money do I get from $60 million? True.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You know? Yeah. So anyway, Mr. and Mrs. He'd make a short video called Phoebe Waller-Bridge Goes Down to the Post Office. Oh my god. Maybe gets a coffee and then comes back to her house. Maybe she doesn't get a coffee because she already had a coffee at home. She dislikes the walk.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And Amazon have to pay for the coffee. That's on top of the $60 million. Makes sense to me. So with this, I know, so Mr. and Mrs. Smith, we both watched the first series with Maya Eskin and Donald Glover. And it was terrific and great fashions and good fun. If you haven't seen it. The second season, it appears that neither of them are going to be in it So it looks like it's renewed But it looks as if they're going to do and if you hadn't if you haven't seen it today play to People who recruited into a spy sort of company and they're there they work together as a couple mr
Starting point is 00:16:03 Mr. Smith, but in that universe, there are other Mr. and Mrs. Smiths who go on more or less dangerous missions depending on your level of Smithness. Exactly how Smithy you are. Yeah, I think they'll probably like pop in at some point. But the whole thing ends on a cliffhanger as well. If you've Yeah, spoiler that I guess Yeah, it doesn't ruin the show. It's good. Yeah. But um, yeah, I will say he's touring for like the next year. what he wrote most of that show with his brother Yeah, I think so. So I imagine it is pretty tricky to do all those things together. So access it's easy if you're an author
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah, you have two jobs. That is drawn in that way much like Donald Glover I'm an author in that way correct that I have this job in like a blue collar menial job blue collar I'm pretending he's a man of the people. He wears a top hat. I do wear a top hat. That's true. Do you remember when like it was that point it was I was probably around like it was this is America era was kind of that era where maybe we talked about this before, but we definitely have off it
Starting point is 00:16:58 about how like all the profile pieces on him were like, this guy's 10 levels ahead of everybody. It's like talking to an alien. But then during the press for Mr. and Mrs. Smith, he's just a regular guy. He's like, hello. What are you doing? I don't know. I'm just around.
Starting point is 00:17:14 He's just normal. But every profile was like, this guy, you can't even relate to him. I was talking to him and he was looking through me. It's like talking to a computer machine. He had the knife from Prince of Persia. We recently watched that. He traveled through time I think. We watched Prince of Persia, Mason.
Starting point is 00:17:29 It's true we did. For work. And we'll do it again. No we won't. It's true we won't. We never will. Never ever. Ah, good fun.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Anyway, look forward to that whenever if it happens. We should do a video on everybody who's got all these deals and never made anything. Ah, write them out. What are you up to? Yeah, get them. Yeah, and then we'll blackmail them. We'll say, we'll release this. I'd imagine you'll get tweets about how do you, where's your money?
Starting point is 00:17:55 Unless you give us some of the money. Yeah, that's right. I love this idea. I'd imagine though, for some of this, they'd be like, purchase a thing is money. And then the last thing they did comes out, Rise of Skywalker. And then every executive is suddenly looking at them like, is this guy an idiot? And so everything they pitch, they're like, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:13 The thing about executives is they're also idiots. Yeah, well, that's right. So they're probably quite easily easy to convince that no, actually, it's the public that are wrong. JJ Abrams is doing something with, what's his name? Smuggo. You could be anybody. Goldie Smuggo.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Ryan Reynolds. No, the other one. Take something. No. Channing? Glenn Howell. Oh, okay, right. Sure.
Starting point is 00:18:35 What's his name? Glenn Powell. Glenn Powell, yes. I wonder, I imagine also these deals often involve like, you know, if Feeble Waller-B Bridge gets $20 million a year, it's flying back and forth and pitching ideas and they're like, Oh, we got an idea for for a thing like we have to do a makeup test for a character or a monster. Let's do some pre-visualization, blah, blah, blah. And they do that behind the scenes for a year and it doesn't work
Starting point is 00:18:56 and they go, oh, well, yeah, well, different idea. Oh, let's please be wasted a bunch of money. Exactly. Other people's money. Other people's money. So Donnie Yen's character from from John Wick the blind guy with the cane. That's right. His name is Kane. Whoa, I should call him blind blind Blinded. Okay. What are you deaf? Are you the character deaf from John Wick 5 this time? He fights a deaf guy This time he sneaks up on a deaf guy and kills him really easily. Yeah Yeah, so the character debuted in 2023 is John Wick 4 and he's getting his own spin-off movie. Oh my god. What do you cough?
Starting point is 00:19:32 Either character cough. Yeah, we got to fight him. He's just having a coughing fit. Oh, mr. Wick. How will you find me with the lights off? My throat has been slit well,. Well, well, well. But my cough's gone. That's right. I had a lozenge stuck in there. Yeah. So he's free of the family or something. Okay. Because he tried to kill John Wickliffe. Yeah, yeah. And no, he did it. He did the deal. Whatever. Great movie. If you haven't seen. And interesting character and whatever. And how does a blind guy shoot Yeah, I don't know. He just does it. That's right. Yeah, we can have an appearance from new guy
Starting point is 00:20:10 You got with dog and you got a dog you go his new guy with dog. Mr. Nobody He called himself to play him can't remember. God you really testing my metal John wick three cast here we go. You're looking things up. Wasn't Mark Dacascos' Zero was it? No, that's Mark Dacascos from Double Dragon. Wasn't Jason Manzoukas the TikTok man? It wasn't Jason Manzoukas. I don't know. What was his name again? Mr. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:20:37 You're Mr. Nobody, you dumbass. I know. Was he like a young guy? Yeah. Oh this guy! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shamir Anderson. Yeah, he was like this guy. Tr this guy! Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Shamir Anderson. Yeah he was like this guy. Tracker.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Good yeah. Tracker. Cool man. Like that. Cool cool cool cool. Anyway it's Trailers Ahoy! We're gonna pause so Mazinger can watch all the trailers. I gotta watch some trailers.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Alright we watched some trailers. We're back. Not all of them. If we can be honest, I didn't watch the last two. We don't have time. We didn't have time. We didn't have time. We didn't have time in that infinite segment of nothingness there. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Or we could have done anything. We'll talk about these now, but House of the Dragon Season 2 and Rings of Power Season 2. You haven't watched the first seasons of those, so it's kind of pointless of you checking out what's going on. But isn't it fascinating that an entire Lord of the Rings series came out and some people watched it. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Isn't that very interesting? I thought it started strong and then got weaker. Right. And I thought House of the Dragon got stronger. But I don't think either of them are a patch on the previous things when that was at their best. An interesting thing that was pointed out to me on Twitter this week is that the upcoming Lord of the Rings, the search for Gollum Where is he? Where is he?
Starting point is 00:21:49 Check the caves. Yeah, they're probably probably in a dirty dank stinky cave full of grotty dirty water and grotty yucky little freak men. Yep. Yeah The thing about that one is and perhaps one of the reasons they're they going in this particular angle, one because it's an unexplored aspect of the blah blah blah. Yeah, unexplored aspect of the blah. But also, they own the likeness of Gollum and he hasn't aged. Yes. He can't age. All the other actors have aged.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Well, also the deal that... Except for Rhum Frodo. Yeah. He hasn't aged. No, he looks most of the same. Put a wig on that fellow. He's fine. But yeah, the thing is as well, I was reading an article this week where MGM, who is it?
Starting point is 00:22:29 Prime owns some of the rights to the Lord of the Rings, but Warner Brothers own Lord of the Rings, the IP. So they can only do things around Lord of the Rings. So that's why they're doing the Lord of the Rings, the search for the Golem. Whereas the ring, though they can have the same characters, but they have to be in different time periods. Right, terrific, love that. So they're not linked. This is like, remember when somebody got the rights to all the characters from the Hannibal
Starting point is 00:22:53 Lecter universe, except for Hannibal Lecter and all the characters that were on the TV show Hannibal, so it was just Clarice, Starling and like two other guys. That's true. That was a good show, wasn't it? Absolutely. Was it? No, I don't know. That was a good show, wasn't it? Absolutely. Was it? No, I don't know. It was in it.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I don't even know if it came out. Did it come out? I don't know. I think it came out. I want the rights to some things, but not all things. Do you want the good things or the worst things? I'll take it all. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I'll take it all, mate. If I had to choose, I'd choose all of it. Oh, and also I saw a Captain Midnight video about the search for Gollum and basically he showed a page from one of the JR Tolkien books and it basically says of our arrogant It's a it's a quote from Aragorn basically saying stories not really worth telling Yeah, I hunted around for it's just one sentence where he's just like yeah hunted high and low didn't say him Not much to tell really didn't find him Yeah, oh, yeah, cuz I think that yeah, the orcs got him or whatever. Sure. Man,
Starting point is 00:23:45 that's crazy. I think that game is based around that as well. Remember that dreadful game that came out recently? Yes, that everyone hated. Everyone hated that. We'll probably play that for Never Go Back. Can't wait to hate it. We did Mad Max last week. All the Mad Max games. Speaking of, and this week we looked at the Mad Max comic books. The three or four that there are. And that's it. So what's interesting about House of the Dragon and Rings of Power, because there is this kind of online competitiveness that people are pitting these two shows against each other. But it's interesting that House of the Dragon starts on June 16th. Hashtag Dragon Ring?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah, man. Nice. June 16th, and then Rings of Power doesn't start until August 29th, the week after that finishes. So they're not going to overlap. Okay. Yeah. If I had to pick, I would probably say I'm more excited for House of the Dragon now.
Starting point is 00:24:26 To rest. But now Sauron's an Elfman. Because in the last one he was a manman. I vaguely remember that. He's like, now I'm an Elfman. And they're like, who's this guy? He's a bad guy. Look out.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Of the Jena Elfmans? Yes. Maybe, yeah. Or the Dany Elfmans. He's gonna put his eye on a big tower. I love that. Yeah, me too. We also got trailers for Wicked.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Now you've never seen Wicked. I've never seen Wicked. I've never seen Wicked. Now you've seen it and you know. I've basically seen it because it was a very long trailer And it pretty much showed exactly what was going to happen except for the fact that it's a musical Yeah, which they're leaning into it slightly heavier than some other stuff recently. I guess cause Wicked is a known musical. It's a known musical. They know. They can't hide it. But what I thought was interesting. It's also got like known musical. They know, they can't hide it. But what I thought was interesting. It's also got like known songs.
Starting point is 00:25:08 So you put them in and people are like, I know, popular. Something about flying. I'm going to get ready to fly. I'm going to fly gravity. Going to fly gravity? Yeah, so unlike some previous stuff like Mean Girls or a couple of other things. Wonka. Some of the Wonka trailers. They went very far. You know, it expended a lot of effort to not tell people it was a musical.
Starting point is 00:25:28 This one had, what I assume, some recognizable songs. However, you don't see anyone singing them. No. They're just in the background as dramatic action happens. So, for the unsuspecting, I think it would still feel like, okay, there's going to be some, some establishing songs in this. Yeah. I hope I don't see anyone singing them because that way I would, I would blow my top if I had that.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Absolutely. Yeah. I've, so I've seen Wicked. It's actually playing in Melbourne at the moment. I should go see it again. It was 2008 in London, about 200 rows back, but it was still, it was great. I really enjoyed it then. So and we were talking about it and I love, I've always loved this element of the Wizard of Oz where the Wizard of Oz is just a con man
Starting point is 00:26:08 Hmm like he's a guy and he's just stuck and he's like and he could just build some You can build a big face. Yeah It's doing a lot of the heavy lifting now that you mentioned and I do kind of like the idea that he is stuck in this wondrous world filled with witches and Chimerical magical creatures or whatever and he's like god. I'm stuck here in this wondrous world filled with witches and chimerical magical creatures or whatever. And he's like, God, I'm stuck here in this garbage place. Yeah. Oh, what's your house would fall on me? I want to go back to a farm in a black and white America.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah. Yeah. Funny stuff. June Brock. What do you mean? Who was that directed at? Were you talking about- Just funny stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Were you talking about the- you were very dismissive of that. Was that you just being dismissive of everything we've ever done? You just took a moment to take stock of it and you're like, oh, funny stuff for 10 years. Let's move on, shall we? Or were you suggesting that the trailer was funny stuff? Funny stuff, basically. I didn't see any jokes in that. No, because the thing in there...
Starting point is 00:27:02 Oh, they're roommates? Glinda's supposed to be like, like she's a bully and then she's kind of full of herself and they all learn a lesson. There wasn't a lot of room in that in that closet for all of the evil witches clothes. She's not evil though. And then she's like, oh why don't you wear this hat? Was that Passaang? Why don't you wear this shit hat? Glinda was like, why don't you wear an evil witch hat? Yeah. And then she puts it on. Is it, does it sort of lead up to a Carrie style moment where she blasts everybody at the prom or something?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah, but it's kind of a miss. Yeah. It's kind of, okay. I can't remember. Is she really not evil at all? Yeah. I can't remember. I mean, she's not, but, and then it goes, I think it does the wizard of Oz also. Sort of. Okay. It's like from a different perspective. You really were 200. You really were 200 rows back. Oh boy was I. That's what I feel like. Just in general, you know, just missing out. Don't know what's going on. What's happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Anyway, June Prophecy. If you were to start a three doors down style band, it would be called 200 Rose Back. And you'd just be all sad on the cover. You can barely hear me because I'm 200 feet from the microphone. June Prophecy. Yeah, we did say that. So it said a thousand years before Paul Atreides or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I just wrote update your shit. What does that mean? Like all your technology is the same. My fashion is so funny. Yeah, everything. Everybody's flying around. Update your shit. Everybody's flying around in a big concrete brick.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Pretty cool. Everyone's got a sword and a laser shield. What I enjoy about this is it's a thousand years back, so boy hope I hope you don't really stumble really badly at the finish line. I hope your thousand-year Genetic plan to create the perfect Whatever guy yeah to let to rule the world I hope it doesn't have one person at the end doesn't like slightly betray you and no he won Do you remember he won at the end of June prophecy June the movie June 2 he went I did it. I'm the king I'm Luke Skywalker. That's pretty remember when he shouted. I'm Luke. So I'm actually yeah, Chewbacca gave him a medal
Starting point is 00:28:51 That's right. Yeah, it was a good movie Funny stuff you like that movie Like everything I Like that. My job is this yeah good good good cuz you're stuck with it forever you've been cursed with this forever I'm afraid all right we're gonna talk about Megalopolis okay I've viewed it something now we've seen at this point we've seen a teaser very short teaser trailer yeah which I don't think we talked about on the time stop we'll see here's and then we got a longer one what I'm what what then when he yelled time stop
Starting point is 00:29:29 What is curious to me? I do for people who haven't seen it. We got out We get the the first teaser it's Adam Driver He's in he's in what looks very much like a Sam Raimi Spider-Man s Kind of sort of CGI style with it's got that it's got that lighting to it Yeah And he walks out onto it the edge of a building and he nearly falls off and then he goes time stop and then the World stops around him and he gets back off the ledge and when I watched that I immediately thought I wonder if Francis Ford Coppola has
Starting point is 00:29:58 Independently developed a superhero movie without knowing it. Oh, wow There was a quote about that actually Because it felt to me like he went, what if a man thought he was a regular man, but then he had special powers, what would that be like? What if he was in a computer, he didn't realize he was in a simulation? Remember when Shang-Chi came out and Tony Leung who played the bad guy in that was like, this is really interesting to me because what if there was a bad guy but he had family? What if you thought he was a villain but he had a family and that gave him a little bit? I'm like that's all these men. That's actually so, that's quite
Starting point is 00:30:30 adorable. You've seen so little of this over the last decade plus. It's just every movie's just, my dad betrayed me. But he loves me maybe? I'm gonna have to kill him at the end of this. But that struck me, I'm like... He's 85. He is, that's what exactly I was saying. But he has been making this for 40 years, so when he thought of it, it was probably a really good idea. And unlike Scorsese, he doesn't have a gen Z daughter.
Starting point is 00:30:52 He's had this idea longer than I've been alive. Isn't that wild? I'm so wild! Anyway, Rotten Tomato says it's 31%, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I'm going to do a whole thing. Okay? So I've got the reviews, some reviews, and then I've got an article I want to read through. Not all of it. Don't worry, everybody.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Not all of it. This is from Nicholas Barber at the BBC. He said, it's like listening to someone tell you, oh, it's about a guy who's building, rebuilding. This isn't the review. No, it's New York, but it's kind of an allegory for the Roman Empire and fascism or whatever. And he's building this new amazing megalopolis on the bones of previous New York. They were also filming it, they were getting footage of it, like second unit, when the twin towers were hit.
Starting point is 00:31:40 So they actually started on this and De Niro's been involved with it. Paul Newman was going to do it at one point. Paul Newman's been dead for a long time. And they thought what if we tape a bunch of Paul Newman salad dressings together and put them in the corner? Will that work? Make a big tower. Megalopolis. But then I guess they probably went through a bunch of like potential Paul Newman. I bet they asked Bradley Cooper and etc. And now they've settled on Adam Driver. Not settled, he's a good actor. He's great.
Starting point is 00:32:04 He's great. He's good. So Nicholas Barthes- Stop! Who else could carry that off with such gravitas? Nobody in the world. That's right. Nicholas Barthes from the BBC said,
Starting point is 00:32:12 "'It's like listening to someone tell you "'about the crazy dream they had last night "'and they don't stop talking for well over two hours.'" Richard Lawson from Vanity Fair says, "'This is the junkiest of junk draw movies. "'A slap together hash of couple "'as many disparate inspirations. What really tanks the movie though is its datedness.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Uh oh. IGN gave it a nine. I just saw that. Okay, because they thought it was a video game? Is that why IGN are reviewing this? Yeah. They do movies, Mason. And then you go to the comments and it's just the worst thing you've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I bet it is. Bilge Ebarie from Vulture who says, Megalopolis is the craziest thing I've ever seen. Huh. And this one from Esther Zuckerman of the Daily Beast says, Megalopolis is stilted, earnest, over the top, CGI ridden, and utterly a mess. And yet you can picture the crowded theatre shouting for joy with John Voight, as he says in one key scene.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I don't want to do anything with John Voight. What do you... Why is John Voight in this? I mean, I guess I know that we'll probably talk about it. He's a million years old. They've probably been friends for years. So John Voight says in one scene, what do you make of this boner I got? Apparently. Okay. And Josh Rothkopff says, I thrilled, I thrilled to Megalopolis in all its overstuffed crazy ambition. Only an uncharitable viewer would call it a catastrophe. It's definitely not boring.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Makes me think it is boring. It's not boring. I don't think it was. I got it. I don't think it was boring. I understood it. I actually, if you watched it and you were like, oh, that bit's boring. I actually, I sensed a theme underneath it made it to me. Not boring and not a waste of my time. So if you didn't get it, then you wasted your time.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But I don't waste my time. This article is from The Guardian. It's the quote in the headline is, has this guy ever made a movie before? France Ford Coppola's 40 year battle to film Megalopolis. Megalopolis? What does it call it film Megalopolis. Megopolis? What does it call it? Megalopolis. Are you okay? No. Apparently- This is going to be one of those words that loses all its meaning once you've said it enough.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I've never had any meaning in the first place. Apparently, we talked about this, he spent $120 million of his own money to make this- Winery money. Yeah, he sold part of his winery. He's doing an interview. He's like, I'm going to die soon. I want to do everything that I can before I die, which hey, absolutely, you should. That's why I'm doing these podcasts. That's all I want to do.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I want to get to all the podcasts and then I'll die. So they start with a quote also that he said in 1978, which is, my greatest fear is to make a really shitty, embarrassing, pompous film on an important subject and I am doing it I will tell you right straight from the most sincere depth of my heart. The film will not be good That film was working on was apocalypse now and it was good and the rest is history That's right reviews a lot of reviews for apocalypse now at the time were not good apocalypse Boo, they said who calyps now some of the same bow Apocalypse bow very good.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Nice. Good one too. That was Siskel and Ava. That was on their show. One of them was like a poocalypse bow. And they both gave the thumbs down at the same time. It was beautiful. It's the best moment you've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Absolutely. So now not everybody has spoken negatively of the experiences on this I should mention, including Adam Driver. But one crew member put it, it was like watching a train wreck unfold day after day, week after week and knowing that everybody there had tried their hardest to help the train wreck be avoided. The crew member sometimes found Coppola's approach exasperating. We had these beautiful designs that kept evolving.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It's Coppola? Doesn't matter to you though, right? I say Francis Ford Coppola. Yeah, let's go with that. But again, like Megalopolis, it's got too many P's in it and some amount of L's and eventually it's going to lose all meaning. So it doesn't matter. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:53 We had all these beautiful designs that kept evolving but it would never settle on one and every time we would have a new meeting it was a different idea. When the crew member insisted that they needed more work to determine how the film was going to look, they say, Coppola replied, how can you figure out what Megalopolis looks like when I don't even know what Megalopolis looks like? That's really helpful. It was another I think there was another crew member who said something along the lines of, oh, we could have done this in CGI, two minutes or whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Oh, yeah, I got that. And it was it was six hours of doing mirror work around Adam Driver. But like, he didn't want to do that. He wanted to do it live. So and he did, of course, he did Horny Dracula. He did. Which was all live in camera stuff. Adam Driver's first day on set was particularly memorable. One aspect of the story involves driver's characters body infusing with a futuristic organic material rather than using digital techniques. Like in the Matrix? No. And when he touches the mirror? No. Coppola wanted to achieve the effect through old school methods using projectors and mirrors, much like he'd done on
Starting point is 00:36:48 Dracula 30 years earlier. That's great, except nobody can move, says the crew member. So they basically strapped Adam Driver to a chair for six hours and they literally took a hundred dollar projector and projected an image on the side of his head and it was all experimentation. But do you really want to do this on your first day with your $10 million actor? The effect would have been really quick and easy digitally. So he spends literally half the day on what could have been done in 10 minutes Yeah, I don't disagree. But I also think if you're gonna do this, you kind of want to figure it out before Oh, yeah, sure, but you know what else is interesting about all this? It's fuck it. It's his money Yeah, so he can burn maybe he's a done-on-the-day guy. Maybe he's always been like that. Maybe he's just like I'll figure it out
Starting point is 00:37:24 We're shooting tomorrow. I'll figure it out tomorrow. Yeah, sorry about it Also, you could you could break that you could break anything in the movie making process to like well You can just do a lot. Oh my god We don't have to sit around while this actor says his monologue and he does like ten takes of it until he gets it Right. Why can't we just film him flapping his mouth open and closed and then we'll do a voice over later Do that in ten minutes? Yeah, you know, it's a a good point actually. Yeah, I make great points. Thank you. Apparently he would often show up for these big sequences with no plan. Nice. No plan to be put in place because he wouldn't allow his collaborators to put a plan
Starting point is 00:37:58 in place. He would just often sit in his trailer for hours on end, wouldn't talk to anybody while often smoking marijuana. Excuse me? Hello. And hours and hours would go by without anything being filmed and the crew and cast would all stand around and wait. And then you'd come out and whip up something that didn't make sense and that didn't follow anything anybody had spoken about or anything that was on the page. And we'd just go along with it trying to make the best of it. Pretty much every day we'd just walk away shaking our heads wondering what we'd just
Starting point is 00:38:21 spent the last 12 hours doing. Several sources also felt that Coppola could be old school in his behavior around women. I don't like that. Old school. I don't like that. Like the movie Old School. Oh sure, that was a good movie. He allegedly pulled women onto his lap, for example.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And during one Baccavallian nightclub scene being shot for the film, witnesses say Coppola came on the set and tried to kiss some of the topless and scantily clad female extras. He apparently claimed he was trying to get them in the mood. To act. What is that even? I don't know. What are you doing? What are you doing Francis Ford Coppola? What are you doing? In the mood for what? It's better to be a really good movie. Well it sounds like it is.. We talked about this, but the virtual volume was abandoned in favor of more traditional green screen technology, according to one source. He said, his digginess was always, I don't want to make a Marvel movie.
Starting point is 00:39:12 But at the end of the day, that's what he ended up shooting. Uh-oh. But what year of Marvel movie is the question? You know what I mean? Because again, when we talk about Iron Man 2008, so much of that was done on the day. You know what I mean, yeah, we had had Danny Jr. and bloody bloody Mr. Director, Jeff Bridge was yeah, and and John Favreau, John Favreau just just in their trailers just writing up dialogue. I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:39:37 have you so you know, yep, that's what it works. Or it doesn't. Sometimes it doesn't. Maybe I mean, what if this is what if he's taken all these cues from the one Marvel movie he's seen Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance, starring his nephew. Does he not know that that's not an MCU movie? Nicholas Coppola. Oh, oh, oh. Is he nepotism, baby?
Starting point is 00:39:54 No. And then we Spider-Man? That's how he got to be Spider-Man. I knew it. I knew something was wrong with that guy. That's right. Also, this is sad, but during the time he was shooting Megalopolis, Coppola was also contending with the fact that his wife Eleanor had become ill.
Starting point is 00:40:08 She was on set in location during the making of the film until they almost prevented her from being there, spokesperson said, and she died last month. So he was also contending with that during all of this. But again, what I mean, it's, I mean, the groping thing. Yeah, that's obviously- Stop it. What are you doing? But for the rest of this like it's his money But I guess if your name's on it you're like I worked on this thing and they're like that was bad like yeah, but it was
Starting point is 00:40:33 Nobody don't we're placing a really old guy at a bunch of money. Yeah, you gotta understand Yeah, so free money up for grabs. Yeah, it's like the gold rush over there. It's getting a grabs. Yeah, it's like the gold rush over there. It's getting a rubbing a critical it is but it's also it's getting a an IMAX around the world release. Oh, and also it's got a thing. I don't know if you've mentioned this here. Well, I don't think I have I have look I have two thoughts. One, the thought I had earlier was that again, he doesn't have like a like Scorsese has like a Gen Z daughter to be like what you're you're doing is cringe, Dad. He doesn't have anything like that. But the second thing, did you also read that apparently there's a point where somebody comes out of the crowd, like in real life, and goes in like and talks to the screen and Adam Driver talks back to the person. What?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Did you not see this? No. Well, this is new information for you, but this is the thing. So what's going to happen in other screenings? That's exactly right. The reason. And I think that's probably the reason why one of the reasons, I mean this could be an absolute mess, but maybe this is one of the reasons you can't get a distributor.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Because they're going to have to get cinema employees to do it. Oh my god, just get a disgruntled teenager. Just get a guy in the hoits to come out. Hi Adam Driver. Hi. Hey, um, what's... I'm using time travel powers. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:43 That's right. Adam. How are you enjoying your time travel powers. Yep It's right. I had a how you enjoy your time travel powers, Mr. Driver. They're pretty good pretty good Right. Did you see the scene earlier where they was a right turn into a robot? No, I was actually the concession stand some guy showed up 40 minutes late and he wanted he wanted extra hot popcorn I don't even know what that meant. But I had to just put it in by co-op I just microwave it again. Yeah. And he said this is too hot. But he paid for it and he left. So I don't even think he was going into the movies. Yeah, it's hard working at a cinema. That's the actual dialogue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy, I bet you wish you had a power to say time stop. Yeah, I do Mr. Driver.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Yeah. Anyways, enjoy working at Chadston Cinema. They film them all. Yeah. Oh God. Anyway, we'll see this when it comes out. There's no release date. Apparently it's coming out in France in September. So that's an indication of something, I guess. I guess Roman Polanski will get to see it first. Wow, that's great. Good for him. He's not fucking dead, is he? Is he?
Starting point is 00:42:49 No, he's not. Is he still alive? Is he still living in France? Where is this guy again? It is in France. All right, should we move it along? Yes. Acast powers the world's best podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:43:57 People have been screaming at us, they're saying X-Men 97, et cetera. And we said, we're going to ignore you. Maybe we'll watch it. Maybe we'll watch it, but if we do watch it, we'll watch it on our own. On our own stream. You can't tell us what to do. That's right. That's right. We did. We're still going to talk about it. Yeah, that's true. Because we just want to. We just want to. Yeah. What do you think the story was? Oh, come on, right. I drove the streaming numbers. I can talk about it later. It's the future of 1997. Yeah. And the future of the X-Men cartoon from the early 90s.
Starting point is 00:44:27 But this time around, Mr. Charles Xavier is dead. Charles Francis Xavier. Pretty funny. It is funny that he was killed. But he's been killed by Henry Peter Garak, who's one of them humans. One of those yuck humans we don't like. But the X-MenMen team they're carrying on Mm-hmm. They're carrying on a bloody carrying on like a bunch of bloody pork chops
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah, because there's there's you know, there's there's anti mutant. There's anti mutant sentiment, but there's also some mutant sympathy out there You know, they're they're having a time of it. They're in the public eye. Mm-hmm and What what's gonna happen what is gonna happen? Yeah, that's right. Fights. Fights. Powers. Zaps. Zaps. Kisses. Robots.
Starting point is 00:45:09 That's right. This was great. It's good fun, isn't it? I enjoyed it so much. I enjoyed it so much. I found it on my own and I, you know. Yeah? I watched it.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Nobody pointed you in the direction? Nobody pointed me in the direction of it. I mean, I only have like vague memories of what happened in the original. Sure, yeah. Like I didn't see all of it because it wasn't on every day all the time. No, sure.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I mean, I think it quite well encapsulated the X-Men comic, which is to say superhero action, but also soap opera drama. Absolutely. And convoluted adventuring and, you know, there's mutants and robots and aliens and time travel. Yeah. And pouches. So many pouches. Yeah. I was doing some research on the animation of this and the original one.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And one of the things they found really difficult about the original one was that everybody's so detailed and different. Everyone's got abs and pouches and like capes and hair and like, you know, and it's all... And, you know, when you've got somebody running towards the camera or whatever We've got the entire team Exactly. Yeah, it's not a power ranger situation where it's they're all the same but different colors or a transformer situation We've got Optimus Prime in the front and just miscellaneous transformers in the back There's a blocky dudes in the back, you know, exactly So I'm what I didn't realize until I'd watch this that it is
Starting point is 00:46:25 this is 2d animation like it is all digitized etc there are 3d elements in it like ships and whatnot but they based they've slightly simplified the designs but having kept the kept the feel of all of them yeah I I didn't think that I would I wasn't sure I'd feel about it but I think the animation this is great and the action in particular it's so so dynamic. You look at shades of invincible. Well, I was gonna say if you look at like invincible, this does action better than invincible does. I know invincible is like Goria.
Starting point is 00:46:54 It's fast. Yeah, it's faster. And it's Goria. But it is mostly a bunch of punches. Yeah. I mean, speaking of invincible, nothing has really topped the Atom Eve special or At. Yeah, that's creative use of her powers I think this is similar, you know the team work well together. It's a it's a little gorier than the original as well That's true. Yeah, it's not like invincible No, but it but and we have a tent what I like about is we have a team who? Know of each other's strengths and weaknesses and they clearly have strategies that they've done together since 92. That's exactly right Yeah, you know and they've they've they're've done before. They've been together since 92. That's exactly right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:25 You know, and they're good at, you know, bouncing off each other, sometimes literally. Sometimes literally. What I think is also good is the team, the voice actors are old and new, like the original actor of Cyclops, he passed away, so they got Ray Chase. Jennifer Hale plays Jean Grey, who's played Jean Grey before, but not in the original series. Right, okay. Carl Dodd returns as Wolverine. Then you got people like AJ Luccasio, who's played Jean Grey before, but not in the original series. Right, okay. Carl Dodd returns as Wolverine. Then you got people like AJ Luccasio, who's great.
Starting point is 00:47:48 We've chatted a bit through various social media. He took over, he did Marty McFly. I remember they did that Telltale game. Like one of his early starts was there because he does like an amazing Marty McFly. Anyway, you should follow him. He does like Han Solo and a bunch of stuff. Who's he doing in this?
Starting point is 00:48:02 He's Gambit. But the original Gambit, Chris Potter, is now playing Cable. So some of them, they've just like shuffled around. And I like that. Some people's voices clearly have aged a little bit. And they're like, well, you've aged out of being a raging Cajun. So you're going to have to be a time traveling mummy's boy. But yeah, also, the AJ Luccasio, he wears the Gambit crop top
Starting point is 00:48:24 and that. He goes to conventions. Oh, OK, right. That's fun. Which I like. But yeah, all of AJ Luccasio is like he's he wears like the gambit crop top of that he goes to conventions Oh, okay That's fun, which I like but yeah all of that is really good I think the casting is like is really strong and like I even the people that will recast It doesn't feel like oh, this is really jarring It's just yeah again not that I remember it like one-to-one, but there it's a very smooth transition Yes, we've talked about this before about movies that
Starting point is 00:48:45 kind of update on sequels. It looks how you remember the group. Not that the old one looked bad because it didn't, but it looks how you remember it. Yeah. Another thing is I love the designs because they kind of change some of the designs from this and they reflect different eras of X-Men. I think it's in the final episode, they're wearing the costumes based on that 1989 pilot, Pride of the X-Men. So the Wolverine's in the brown and yellow and... Interesting, okay, yeah. There's a black leather joke.
Starting point is 00:49:15 There sure is. They finally got him, Mason. Got him, that's true. How do you feel about... I feel like to me the downfall of this series is probably the dialogue. I think it's it's even though it does reflect probably quite accurately the original, you know, there there always needs to be a little exposition or there always needs to be somebody
Starting point is 00:49:36 has to they have to put in their little vocal tics and catch phrases, you know, every second sentence gambit does have to refer to somebody as monomy. I insist though. Yeah, he has to do it Yeah, okay with it. Rokes calling everybody sugar, you know Yeah, a lot of kind of you settle into this world. I think I like it You know and I and I think for a lot of people that's gonna be very Nostalgic I think that I'm sure they could have rejigged the dialogue So it's more like you know an episode of Netflix daredevil or whatever is right? Yeah, you know, but but they wanted to keep that more like you know an episode of Netflix Daredevil or whatever it is right yeah you know but but they wanted to keep that yeah you know this
Starting point is 00:50:08 the the dialogue stuff. I was looking at the showrunner Bo DeMeo who was fired he was fired but he's done some work on season two. Has he? Yeah well already. Oh before he got fired yeah and he's like answering questions people. Yeah he's sort of posting through it. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe he'll come back on board. I don't know. I mean, we don't know. We don't know why he got fired.
Starting point is 00:50:30 There's rumors it's an OnlyFans thing. We don't know. Yeah, but also he isn't, from what I can tell on his socials, he's not expressing any animosity towards anybody. He hasn't revealed it. And my feeling, I kind of feel like it might be akin to the James Gunn thing on Guardians Okay, where it is the only fans thing? Yeah, because he has an only fans night and that
Starting point is 00:50:53 Supposedly Disney knew about it before they hired him But I suspect somebody complained and he got fired and he's and he's my guess would be he's like he's posting through it And he's decided to not say Marvel sucks and they've done this I mean I have a lot of like is that maybe they'll hire him back Maybe I'm back or he did some crook stuff. I don't know we don't know we don't know what I want It's not for me to know. Hmm. Anyway, this the the the plot of this. It's I mean they are They burn through some stories. They do they always have like they did days of future past and like three episodes And I would say if you are familiar with X-Men comics of the 90s, you probably won't be surprised
Starting point is 00:51:29 by any of it. It's kind of a lot of those storylines are in there. Some do pop up and I'm like, oh, they're doing that. This is probably more of a spoiler thing. Yeah, we'll get to plot elements. But yeah, if you're familiar with those particular storylines and a mysterious figure emerges and you're like, who's that? Is it going to be...
Starting point is 00:51:48 No, it's the guy you remember from the comic books. That's the reveal. They're just not going to... One of the things I like, and you mentioned these characters bouncing off each other, I think they're doing really interesting things, again, like you said, with their powers. Like Cyclops isn't just blasting people. He's been the leader for a long time. He's had laser eyes forever.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Exactly. It's a beam of concussive force and what can that do? It's like, how does that work with the laws of physics? You can jump out of a plane and survive a fall. I love that. There's a moment, and this is in the trailer where Gamma charges Wolverine's blades. Morph's in this. Morph is in this.
Starting point is 00:52:25 They bring Morph back as a. He's the most present day guy. Yeah. If I would, again, if I. He's barely in the original. Yeah, I'm not being critical. Oh, he may, it's like a. Nightcrawler isn't really in the original either.
Starting point is 00:52:36 No. But he has a pretty prominent role in sort of the latter half of this. I saw a thing about, there's three characters and one was Nightcrawler, one was Morph. Maybe the other one was Bishop, where people remember them being in it more than they are Yeah, they wanted to elevate those characters. Yeah, and I crawl was really only in maybe a car one or two episode
Starting point is 00:52:51 I don't know. Yeah Not for me to say it's not um, but yeah, so with morph morph can be anybody Yeah, and also take on their powers. It's not just so well. And the at the end of every episode, you get a little, you get a little window, a little love it. A little Windows 95 style clickety click of all the files of all the various X men and you see there, you see a little 3D render of them as they we see their powers and it says it says that off can change shape into anyone and gain their physical attributes. Okay, so I think to some extent So I said well, I mean also like just on a power scaling
Starting point is 00:53:31 Quest like if if he becomes the blob and becomes literally immovable. What's the point of the blob? Yeah, absolutely like he's the if this is the case then morph is the most most There is but I think he can most for the most part like he can if he becomes the Hulk he becomes quite strong but I don't think it becomes Hulk strong. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. For example is a thing that might happen. They are hypothetically. Yeah, we don't know. We get some we get some some some non mutant cameos in this. Yep. Mostly towards the back. Should we say those are spoilers? Yeah. If you love cameos, if you love 90s style cameos. If you love cameo, also the website. I do. Get yourself a cameo.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Send it to a mate for their birthday. That's right. What else we got? Should we do some spoilers? Oh, theme song's great. It's great. It's a great theme song. They should use it in the movies.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yeah. I would love to see... Oh, James, I did use it in the movies. No, properly. I would love to see, like, not this, but this dynamic of X-Men in the movie. Again, not a direct translation of this, but the vibe of this and the feel and the colorful cast of characters and just the variety of powers, like, within this unit. And, like, they're all kind of, they're good at one thing, but they're really good at that
Starting point is 00:54:40 one thing, you know? It's different than the Avengers. It's a different feel. And I think there's so much potential here for this to be so interesting in live action. Potential. Well, I mean, maybe this is the test bed, you know, as they do it from time to time. DC are quite famous for it, I think. Try it out in a less expensive medium and then if it works, make some bad Zack Snyder movies. You know what I'm saying? They're not all bad Mason. Sucker Punch was pretty good. And so was Rebel Moon Part II.
Starting point is 00:55:09 It wasn't. The child of his year. No, I think he's been hit in the head. I've never been hit in the head. Anyway, spoilers. Yeah, I'm going to say best series ever. Best series ever. Bit of fun.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Check it out. 10 episodes as well. Some are longer than others. That's true. Last one's like 42 minutes. Well, you know what's interesting as well is you might look at the list of episodes and go oh 10 episodes, okay, we'll breeze through that. But unlike the original which would have been 22 minutes an episode, these are 35, 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Settle in. Settle in, idiots. Bitch. That's right. Why are we so rude? I don't know. I got hit in the head. Spoilers, big time spoiler times.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Magnet is back and he's trouble. Yeah, Mr. Magnet. Mr. Magnet's back. And he's like, I'm back and he's trouble. Yeah, because Mr. Magnet. Mr. Magnet's back and he's like, I'm here sexy. He's sexy now. And then he was always a bit sexy. He's like, I'm Dayton rogue and I'm sexy. That's right. And I'm not wearing a helmet because I don't need to anymore.
Starting point is 00:55:56 That's right. And he's got beautiful long flowing hair. Oh, because for people who are still listening, even though they haven't seen it, he has inherited the X mansion and all Professor X's attributes. Is was killed. Is it a scam? No. Professor X was like, you can do this, I reckon. And he does for a bit. I think my favourite part of this is... Getting his shoulders out. Oh yeah. We're in that shoulder outfit that's got the gloves on. Ooh, very sexy. Wearing his briefs later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Down into his briefs. Flying around the world just in his briefs. Oh, I think Magnet's arc in this is my favorite. Sure. You're going to keep doing that? Yep. Favorite. Just, you know, you don't know what his deal is and it's like, no, he's genuinely trying.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Oh, you pushed him too far. No, he's good. Yeah. I thought it was just an interesting tick where he was constantly being called Magnus in this. So I guess when he's off screen, people would know who they're talking about because otherwise he's just Eric Magnus That's a professor X Magnus Magnus no, I'm gonna go into your mind. We're gonna look at your childhood Magnus, right? Don't do it. Yeah, I'm doing it Magnus
Starting point is 00:57:02 Sorry magnet. Yeah max I'm doing it Magnus. Sorry, Magnet. Yeah, Magnus. So some of the comics that they touch on, or just do in their entirety, The Trial of Magnet, E for Extinction, is where they just blow up Geonosia. Probably the best episode. It's got Gambit's death, it's got incredible action, it's got like a three-headed centaur. Gambit rides a motorbike and he jumps a motorbike. He throws a motorbike at rogue. He lights it up and then throws it out. Well, that's that is a great episode.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Get continue on with it. And that's fine. We can do that. I was going to say that most of this series feels to me like they're going to go. We're going to we're going to take this in a whole different way. We're going to take this. All right. A whole different continuity. Like it's going to it's not good. You know, we're're gonna do some big things
Starting point is 00:57:45 And this is gonna this isn't gonna be the comic book Continuity this isn't gonna be the movie continuity. This is gonna be a whole thing and I think that maybe the downfall this it It's not it's not bad. It's still good But I kind of feel like this the last maybe the episode is sort of setting up to be like yes Well, we'll reset the status quo for the next one. Everybody's going to get back to where they were before. Well, yeah, actually, you're right in the sense that I liked that when I thought Professor X was dead, that Magnet was now the head of the X-Men. That's right.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I really was like, wow, they could just run with this for a long time. And I would have probably preferred, but I don't know. But actually, it turned out Professor X was doing a little deadbeat dad routine. He's going off to get married in space to a space bird lady. And he just faked his own death. But there wasn't really a resolution to how he did it. No, but he's like, I'm a space guy. And they're like, we don't like you getting married here.
Starting point is 00:58:40 And he's like, well, I'm going to break all your minds. That's right. Yeah. That was probably, I think, the weakest element of when they cut the space and he's just like, there's a big council. It's like, I don't care. I don't care about it. I enjoyed the appearance of like the Shi'ar Imperial Guard.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Oh, yeah. All the gladiator who's that weird purple-haired Mohawk Superman. Yeah, man. All the assorted weirdos. I guess that's all weird stuff that you remember from 90s comics, which I do not. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Mojo world was pretty fun. It's like a fun arcade homage as well. Yeah, that's Jubilee get some planes. Yeah, that's Sunspot
Starting point is 00:59:12 It was that Sunspot Sunspot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah long shot interestingly, although he appears in One, you know how the the opening sequences they tease little bits and pieces Yeah, yeah from what's gonna happen in the episode and maybe opening sequences they tease little bits and pieces from what's gonna happen in the episode and maybe the elements of the X-Men pass and stuff. The card at the end is like blank, some of the characters aren't on the team yet. Well you see Longshot in one of those but you don't see him in any of the episodes. Oh okay. There's also Fatal Attractions where they take the adamantium out of Wolverine.
Starting point is 00:59:39 That's right, what's gonna happen there? Yeah. He's gonna go feral. He's gonna have bone claws. Hope he gets a piggy nose. You reckon? Is that what happened to him in the thing? No but I'meral. He's gonna have bone claws. He gets a piggy nose. You reckon? Is that what happened to him in the thing? No, but I'm hoping he got no nose. His nose disappeared. Oh, that's right Yeah, no nose Wolverine. So he's got an adamantium nose. I guess so. Yeah, they had to replace it now
Starting point is 00:59:55 It's all flopped down. Yeah, and there's also the story where Jean Grey and Scott Summers have a baby but they have to send their baby to the future because it has a Technovirus but then realize that Jean Grey is actually a clone and there's two Jean Grey's and then so this mother of Jean Grey's But memories have merged and yes, one of these fire head or Wonder Woman or something What's one called magic lady? Oh the Goblin Queen. Yeah, and then she becomes a different thing That's one of the that's one of the dialogue issues I had, where she's like, call me the Goblin Queen. Why? Goblin.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Set that up better. Yeah. She's gobbling up all the evil. Yeah, and she does the phoenix. And then later she's like, call me Madeleine Pryor. Why though? Why? Because of the comics.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Pryor or the X-Men. Nice. An interesting sort of era they skipped a little bit is X-Factor. So in the 80s they were like, let's rebuild the original X-Men team. Oh, so that's like Iceman and Angel. Yeah. So they had a series called X Factor. And the idea was that they were on in
Starting point is 01:00:52 public, they were like, they were human and they were a mutant hunting team. And people would come and say, oh, you got to hunt down this, this mutant is causing trouble, whatever. But actually they were the original X-Men team and they would actually find these guys and help them out kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:01:05 But the problem- The 18? They were a little bit like the 18. Yeah, the X-Factor 18. But the problem there was that Jean Grey was dead in the comic book. So they were just like, nah, she actually was at the bottom of a lake. Just like in X-Men 3. Exactly. The last stand.
Starting point is 01:01:20 You thought she died as the phoenix, but actually she was at the bottom of a lake. What was she doing down there? She was never the phoenix, actually. She was at the bottom of a lake. That's crazy. So she was never the phoenix but actually she she was at the bottom of a lake that was you do it She was never she was never the phoenix actually she was at the bottom of a lake. That's crazy So she was never the phoenix but then it turned out later. They were like now we get let's give her phoenix powers That because dude that you do that big bird thing that she does. That's right Hey Scott, I'm thinking about buying some pants that aren't chinos, what would you recommend? Hey Scott, I'm thinking about buying some pants that aren't chinos. What would you recommend? GENE!
Starting point is 01:01:44 Gene? Yeah, Gene. One Gene. A pair of Gene. Anyway, the villain is Mr. Sinister, but it's not really. It's Bastion. That's right. Oh, Storm Loser Powers.
Starting point is 01:01:57 That's a good bit of like that. Yep, sure, sure, sure. She gets a little arc and she has to reclaim her stuff and whatever. That's right, yep. What do you think of Bastion as the main villain? Techno guys, like, oh, I was a mutant, nobody loved me, I didn't go to school. Yeah, pretty good.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I didn't go to school! He went to school for a bit. Yeah, but I could have gone to more school. You think that's why he's evil because he didn't go to school enough? He didn't go to school, he didn't learn a goddamn thing. Yeah, that's true. He should have gone back to school,
Starting point is 01:02:17 Rodney Dangerfield style. That's right. Look, I did enjoy him, but I think the problem with this particular villain is he's one of those villains that's indestructible until he's not. Yeah, until they beat him up. Until they beat him up. Yeah, I did like how they beat him up.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I didn't think initially that I liked the idea of human sentinel hybrids, because I love the sentinel design. I just love seeing him tear through giant sentinels. But there was the bit where they're flying in the sky in the jet and whatever and I'm like, this is actually pretty cool. This is pretty cool. And the first I'm like like are they killing all these people no they reassemble sort of sometimes sort of sometimes unless they
Starting point is 01:02:49 were flying in the sky and then they remove the virus and they fall out of the sky maybe maybe some of them are dead some are definitely dead I don't care it's not my problem but also they were kind of bad people they were kind of bad you reckon some of them were bigots and stuff oh yeah they went they went were bigots and stuff yeah I don't know anything about Bastion from like the comics. That is not... I mean that's pretty much the whole thing. Yeah he's the he's the son of Nimrod. The Green Day album. The Green Day album that's right exactly. A human woman made love to a Green Day album. CD or cassette? Cassette? Whoa! No wonder he's all fucked up. Yeah that's right.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Anyway here's some of my highlights. Magnet's all fucked up. Yeah, that's right. Anyways, some of my highlights. Magnets arc as mentioned, love that. Good arc for all magnets there. Death of Gambit. Mickey Magnets. Yeah, see that's the thing we- We'll come back to that. But I think, yeah, post credits, we're going to talk about a post credits.
Starting point is 01:03:37 The attack on Geonosia as mentioned. A post-calypse credits. Yes, the bit where Magnets fight him, he's like whipping him with the train. Oh yeah, that's cool. Loved all of that. Rogue, when she just tossed away Captain America's shield. That's a bit of fun. Because you know he would have had a hard time fighting that.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Even if he's got a tracker in it, I assume, but if he went and got that on foot. Ages, that's up in the mountains. That's a nightmare. And how far into that mountain, you know? Yeah, yeah. I don't know, it might be the Retrievie shield, I don't know. It didn't look like it know it didn't look like I think if it were rogue would look at it and go if this is looks like it might be a retrievie shield
Starting point is 01:04:13 She would have done something else. Yeah, she would have just bed. Yeah, she would have bet it at half exactly. Yeah And there's fun cameos as daredevil Hulk Iron Man Spider-Man black and daggers And there's fun cameos, there's Daredevil, Hulk, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Black Panther, Cloak and Dagger, Silver Samurai's in it. Iron Man in his 90s suit from the Marvel Super Heroes game. Now some of these are linked to other cartoons and some aren't. I can't remember what the continuity is. But yeah, it was great seeing Daredevil. I'm like, God damn, Daredevil.
Starting point is 01:04:38 That's cool. Just seeing like what does Daredevil look like in this universe? And he's probably been in it before. Right. What a way back. I just missed that. Also, it was confirmed, you know, were Wolverines dying at the end what does Daredevil look like in this universe? And he's probably been in it before. Right. I just missed that. Also, it was confirmed, you know, Wolverine's dying at the end and Morph changes into Jean Grey and he goes, I love you, Wolverine. That was apparently Morph expressing Morph's feelings for Wolverine. Non-binary character, by the way. Can you believe it? Can you believe it?
Starting point is 01:04:58 In the 90s, 97s? I don't know about that. I like it when a show's so good that people can't be like, it sucks because it's woke. It's just like, well, it's just really good though, isn't it? So, you know. One thing I thought was interesting is that the Black Panther of the time was T'Chaka, not T'Challa. Oh, okay. You know what? I think something has happened at Marvel where they're like, we cannot use T'Challa again in anything. Because Chadwick Boseman died. Until his son grows up in the movie.
Starting point is 01:05:26 And becomes T'Challa again because his son's name is T'Challa. I've fallen into a time vortex and now I'm just adult T'Challa again. He could. That's a free idea Marvel. Yeah cool. Which I think is odd because they've never done that with any other characters before I don't think. No they just hold on that legacy man. I think it's but it odd. Like you shouldn't erase that character because... Yeah. Nobody owns a character. That's right. Except for Stan Lee who died. That's true.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yeah. Post credits. So they'll get split up. Some go to the future, some go to the past, some don't do anything. That was Magnet's fault? Yeah, probably. Magnet. You know what he's always up to.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Yeah, probably. I like how he's doing Magnet stuff and I'm like that must that book must have a magnet in it. I don't know what he's doing. He's moving everything. I like him. Yeah. So they got a future and Jane Graham, whatever. They made a young, they made a cabal.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Yes. Enjoyed this. It's good. They made a young version of their son, but older whether then when they left here, that's right. And that's in the year 3900 or something. And some of the X-Men go back in time to 3000 BC where they meet a young, sexy apocalypse. And his apocalypse. See those lips? Yeah. They've met him before though. But as regular apocalypse. Do they know his origin? Yeah, they were like, did you see that look?
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah. Rogan bloody. They were like, let's kill this guy. Yeah, they were like, did you see that look? Yeah. Rogan bloody. They were like, let's kill this guy. Yeah, we'll kill him now actually. Well I don't know how the timeline works in this, right? Well we know Bishop went through a portal with a baby and then dropped it immediately. That's true. Bishop you fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:06:56 What are you doing? Hold on to the baby man. Well apparently season two is still in the animatic stage. This is probably at least two years away I would say at this point, but then again, you know, like a lot of the elements they've already built, you know and all that Yeah Initially when they were like, oh we'll get where perhaps we haven't ended up they haven't gone somewhere in space They've gone somewhere in time. I was initially thought are they gonna just send them to the present day? Oh, okay Right. They didn't people that will it's cheaper if you film things in the modern day. That's exactly right
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah, I was gonna say Oh, yeah, so gambits died, but he's not dead really no It's gonna bring you back as death probably and then he's gonna be like Let's get all the death out of you and then he'll just be regular gambit again. I guarantee I guarantee it Monomayor Got some reviews here. Okay, some of these some great. Okay Darren Leslie jr. Says loved it one of the most most stressful. Was Darren Leslie senior, you think though? I don't know, it doesn't say. One of the most stressful episodes of television I've viewed in a while.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Just a fantastic finale that goes out on emotion and action. And what a treat for 90s Marvel animation fans. Can't wait for more. Alex Funder says, starting out, I love the coming out scene with Charles and Eric. Felt super authentic. The action in the episode in this episode was incredible. Some of the fights and power ups reminded me of the anime in a great way. Love that Wolverine wasn't a savior in it.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Yeah, he was, he's not like the main guy. I think I'm just used to Wolverine being like the main character. And he's not, and I like that a lot. But so many other mutants got their time to shine. Those cliffhangers are incredible. Time to have a shenanigans, here we go. I don't need any more live action superhero shows, just more of this quality animation well you're gonna get both
Starting point is 01:08:26 eventually yeah Russell Michaels this and you're gonna get some crap that's right you're gonna like it yeah like back in the old days like back in the 90s eat it up whatever dregs we got we've taken it up mm-hmm Russell Michaels on Twitter says hashtag with the planet pod x-men 97 is not as good as the original series but it is still very enjoyable binge the og last night Bishop should have kept them kept the mullet perm agree Agree. Hard agree. Magnet. Good, good. Just to be going good, just to be evil again was dumb. Rogan Magneto stuff. Well, well, comics based. Just gross. Best movie ever.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I thought the voice actor for Forge was very good. Oh, yeah, right. I don't know if I don't really remember how much play Forge got in the original series, but I thought that guy was good. Good understated performance. Bit of fun. Bit of fun? Bit of fun, good work. Andy's got robot parts.
Starting point is 01:09:11 He does have robot parts. And Braden Cooper says, I never watched the original X-Men cartoon, but this was incredible. I did watch Spider-Man. I was happy with the small resolution to that cliffhanger. I still want a successor though. I don't know what that means. Didn't that show end on a cliffhanger? We did talk about it.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Which one? Spider-Man, this animated 90s. I don't know. They were. Didn't that show end on the cliff hanger? We did talk about it. Which one? Spider-Man the Sanimated Nine. I don't know. They were gonna go to Trime Travel or something. Trime Travel? That's so dangerous. I agree. Um yeah check it out man. Check it out man. Oh that's the highest recommendation we can bestow. Definitely. Check it out man. I also got some streaming numbers here. So in 2024, this is the share of Disney original series viewership This comes in fourth. So it's x-men 97 at 6.8 percent at 11.8 percent is echo Okay. Yeah, that's done quite well. Yeah, 23.3 percent is Percy Jackson Okay, and 33 percent is other red notice. It says red notice. Wow, so it's above the bad batch
Starting point is 01:10:03 It's above the Soka season one. It's above Mandalorian season three. I mean, then again, some of these shows aren't from this year. But yeah, it's doing pretty, pretty well. And I think just having it sit here for a couple of years is with the original series. And again, I think maybe the proof is it's to prove if you don't get the thing every year, yes, you build anticipation for it. You know, literally Yeah, and you gotta get something every year Yeah, yeah, even if it's just a birthday card from your nan. Oh, it's so true. My nans they're all dead. Yeah. Wow I'll have to get you something else then anyway in more good news. We got to move it along. Okay. All right
Starting point is 01:10:42 What are we gonna do though? Stop talking. What we read, what we're gonna read. Yeah, man. What are you doing? I'm doing a podcast. Yeah. Obviously. How's it going? Really? Well, yeah, I've been saying funny stuff Informative opinions. There's another guy there, too. Really? You're doing something different this way Henley on it's good. It's good stuff We're mucking about we do the muck about fun to muck about so now it's time to get deadly. Yeah, I've had enough of that Yeah, that's right. I read the first issue of Doom. There's a new Doom ongoing series. As in Doctor Doom. Oh, I thought you meant the first person shooter game comic. No, I didn't. I was joking. I didn't think that actually. You thought I meant Doctor Doom. Yep. Why have you wasted all that time? So
Starting point is 01:11:41 it's written and illustrated by Sanford Green. Oh yeah. And also with a little bit of assistance apparently from Jonathan Hickman who's... Just tapped him in for a couple of rounds. I think so. I mean, Hickman's done some fantastic fore work. He worked on House of X, Powers of X. Jonathan Hickman's good for...
Starting point is 01:11:59 Talking about status quo, he's good for... They bring him in on a book and like fantastic four or something And yeah, this is wrong, and he absolutely upends the status quo He's like what about if the X-Men what if this happened or whatever and then when he moves off the book they like return It to the status quo and they change like 1% Okay, like 1% of his DNA chipping away at it though is chipping away exactly eventually is eventually it's gonna be the fantastic three He's gonna figure it out. It's That's right. God damn.
Starting point is 01:12:25 That's right. But he's going to remove two and add one. Oh my god. That's right. He'll get you. But anyway, this is- Could you take away some of each of them? Like a few limbs?
Starting point is 01:12:35 Would that make it? I think so, yeah. How much of each of them would you have to take away to make it? I took away the thing's face once. Remember you wore that big metal mask? Oh yeah. What happened to his face? Got smashed?
Starting point is 01:12:43 He stuck his head in the microwave. What a dumbass. Anyway, this is Sanford Green. that big metal mask oh yeah how it happened to his face got smashed he stuck his head in the microwave what a dumbass yeah anyway this is Sanford Green and so this is I'm not sure where this sits in in current Marvel continuity but it's set in a universe in which Galactus is gone he's gone with Topsy Turvy he's gone all mad and he's uh he's he's just rampaging through the universe and Doom attempts to stop him using check this out. Is it the ultimate nullifier? No, it's a big giant doom robot It's like a big same Titan, but he fails and the world is destroyed and the only people seemingly left to him and Valeria
Starting point is 01:13:14 Richards, which is the fantastic for Redan Sue's daughter. Yeah, right a child or adult as a child apparently and and so vain He didn't have to dress up like a do yeah so this this series is gonna be it's it's it's building up to a rematch between Doctor Doom and Galactus and it's got some crazy visuals this is the new Doctor Doom suit by the way isn't the new Doom yeah yeah pretty cool right I'll take it yeah it's good except it's nice all right anyway art is incredible yes it's Sanford Green He's doing the writing and the art. Mm-hmm, and it's good stuff man. I'd not heard of him before. Yeah
Starting point is 01:13:52 But he wrote a series called bitter roots For image comics, okay Which is upset in during the Harlem Renaissance and follows the sangria is a family of monster hunters who attempt to cure creatures rather than Killing them. Mm-hmm was a critical and and commercial success. The rights to the film adaptation were acquired by Legendary Pictures. I think he might have won an Eisner Award. He did. He won the Eisner Award for best continuing series for Bit and Root. Very good. So yeah, I get I think this has a lot of potential. It looks very exciting, looks great. And you should read it unless you're a coward.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I will read that. I'm looking for a new comic to read. I'll read that, Mason. Well, I saw and it's currently not on but if you do get a chance because I think he's gonna move it around a bit Sam Peterson's show why the long face he quit comedy doing stand-up. Well, he's done podcast people know he's got this podcast confessions We've been on to get that's right. He's got two drunk Arnie's. He's a great podcast So when saw his first solo show which hasn't done since 2018 for various reasons Which he talked about in the show and it was fucking incredible That's good. I'd never seen him do stand-up because I'd known him When he was doing stand-up and he said he was gonna do his worst ever show. That's what he said
Starting point is 01:14:53 So it's only up from here. Yeah, you thought it was incredible. It was genuinely amazing Okay, and it was just I bought a friend of mine who didn't know Sam. I made sure of it I said listen, do you know this guy said no and I said good. I needed it I need somebody on the outside was it Barry? It wasn't my friend Barry. It's my friend Joe. I know Joe. I know everybody in the story. I know you. I know Joe. I know Sammy Peterson. Yeah, you know all these people. Oh my God. And he loved it also. Like he thought it was incredible. And they all know me. They all know you. That's true. And then the next night, because Claire couldn't go on Friday, I was like, you should
Starting point is 01:15:23 go and see this. So she went and saw it, I was like, you should go and see this. So she went and saw it. She was like, that was incredible. Good. I also met some listeners when I was out on the street. I met somebody. I went and met someone who wasn't named Jesse. I was like, last time we met, you said my name was Jesse, but my name is this, but I've
Starting point is 01:15:35 forgotten his real name. So. Ungrateful, Jesse. I met other people whose names I didn't catch. I met Lauren at the show who was lovely. He's over from the UK who we talked about Megalopolis and just like, God, what a nightmare. So it was fun to meet so many people out and about. We're both in the midst of watching the new Jenny Nicholson video.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Oh yeah, two hours and 20 minutes. The spectacular failure of the Star Wars Galactic star cruiser? What's it called? Yeah, it's but they don't even really know they talk about in the video, but It's the immersive Star Wars experience. It's a Star Wars hotel where you're on a ship and And it costs thousands of dollars. And it's dreadful. And it's dreadful by the way.
Starting point is 01:16:15 And it's like a camp. It got shut. The whole thing got filled with cement. I also watched, I've mentioned them before, but there's a YouTube channel called the Bad Movie Bible. Oh yeah. It's about the tumultuous story behind a lot of low budget B movies and vanity pictures and all that sort of stuff. And he's released one today called the story behind Samurai Cop, which is a 1991 movie,
Starting point is 01:16:35 a B movie about a guy who's a cop but he's also a samurai. Red Letter Media reviewed that and then interviewed the guy. Oh nice, yeah. You want to check that out. Yeah. I also saw, I took my daughter, as four, to see If. Oh nice, yeah. You want to check that out. Yeah. I also saw, I took my daughter, yes four, to see IF. Oh yeah? Yeah, I don't think she understood what was going on. But you understood everything? Most of it. Do you understand the themes? Yeah, definitely. I was like, I get
Starting point is 01:16:56 what you're doing John Krasinski or whatever. Look, it's very sincere and like the lore of the universe because it's about basically there's a every kid I know what's explaining for people every kid has an imaginary friend and but then when they grow up they forget because it's Toy Story and the imaginary friends are still around yeah and they're trying to and then they're like how do we rehouse these imaginary friends or whatever yeah right and we rehome them it doesn't like if you look into like if you're going like me what I have to do with sea movies like the lore of this and how does this universe make sense? And what is this that is they're invisible, but whatever if you if you cast an adult eye over this
Starting point is 01:17:31 Yeah, you'd be like what is it? Why would a kid want a Betty Boop imaginary friend? Betty Boop's been out of the zeitgeist for years. Well, they do explain that what's your imaginary friend Popeye? Yeah, what's going on here? Also? Look, I'm not going to spoil it, but you're probably going to see the twist coming a million miles away. I'm going to ask you, James, and you can give me a thumbs up or thumbs down. Is Ryan Reynolds also an imaginary friend? Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:56 What an interesting movie. Also, I'll say this. It's not funny. Oh, no. Right? But... Yes? When you say it's not funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Do you mean they attempt jokes and they're not good? No. It's just, it's, no there's jokes in it and it's not like what a bad joke. It's just not a funny movie. Right. If anything. It's sincere. The charm in it is its earnestness. It's very sincere and very saccharine. And I don't think that's a bad thing. The first half an hour I'm like, I think I fucking hate this. But then, I got into the rhythm of it and this is what this is and it is saccharine and kind of Dower in parts and about childhood and losing parents. Classic child, classic kids movie.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Dower. It is that kind of like, almost like an 80s. My parents are dead. I'm an orphan kind of kind of thing. And this is this is this is the mark of a good movie. And this is this is a mark of a good movie review. James is that you've given me all the information I need to know whether I want to say it myself. And the answer is no, because it's a down rate is Disney movie with dead parents. Yuck. Yuck.
Starting point is 01:19:03 But I think again, they again, it's getting mixed. but it's not... It is what it is. It's unapologetically just a very earnest, straightforward movie. Planet of the Apes, they're very earnest. It's not as good as Planet of the Apes. Of course not. Why would it be? But honestly, I didn't have a bad time with it. I really didn't. And again, my daughter seemed to like it despite probably not understanding most of the existential crisis. I bet it's fun and colorful. And there's fun cameos. And there's fun cameos. And everyone's good in it as well. Like it's okay. It's got its moments
Starting point is 01:19:45 All right. Yeah. Well sounds like another big win for CIA plant John Krasinski Good on him. Apparently it's doing all right. Like it's doing pretty well for the box office So, um, yeah good stuff. Check it out or don't I won't yeah, I'm completely indifferent terrific Is that what IF stands for yes in different Friends, that's that's great stuff. All right. Yeah, that is I reckon Thank you to our KM424 for that letters theme. If this ever gets deleted off YouTube, I'm gonna have to go to one of our old episodes that's on.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Oh and go to the timecode. Go to the timecode that's on YouTube and then play it in a worse quality. So I'm looking forward to that. You could get a tape recorder. You'd forget to rewind it though. Unless you record it like again and again and again. And then you flip the tape at the end and you. Yeah nice.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Not a bad idea I had. That's a great idea. What I have to do though is I have to call up Triple J and request it on the radio. When they played it through I hit play and record at the same time on my tape player. Smart. Record it and then I have to do that a few more weeks. Yes, we would. Can we get this on Triple J?
Starting point is 01:21:00 Get it on the hottest 100? Our letters thing. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Well now YouTube shows are up for Emmys. Yeah, that's true. Is there a chance? This could win an Emmy?
Starting point is 01:21:08 Yes, it is. Yes, it could. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And yes, it could. That's right. Anyways, if you do want to reach the show, you can hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:21:16 You can tweet us directly or go to Facebook, our Facebook group. No, was that part of it? No. Or weeklyplanetpodatgmail.com for a Gmail. That's exactly right. Do you want me to start off, Mason? Yeah, kick it off. From Wesley Walker, he says, we've got Rise of Dawn of War, Foreign Kingdom of. What do
Starting point is 01:21:32 you reckon the next Planet of the Apes title will be? My personal prediction is Journey Across the Planet of the Apes. Oh yeah. It'd be a road trip movie where you see a bunch of different ape cultures. I like that. That is cool. We haven't seen any of the... That's another word. Contiki tour of the Planet of the Apes. Interesting. British bar't seen any of the um. What's another word? Ah, Contiki tour of the Planet of the Apes. Interesting. British bar fight Planet of the Apes. Oh, not bad. Yeah, okay. I'm just thinking of ones that have already named it. Surprise of the Planet
Starting point is 01:21:55 of the Apes. Surprise of the Planet of the Apes. They're all actors. What? Yeah, that's right. And masks and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. No, I like um Journey Across the Planet of the Apes. I think that's a. That's not bad. Great name. Does it need Yeah. No, I like, um, journey across the planet. The apps. I think that's, that's not bad. Great name. Does it need to be a bit more like, cause you know, it's like war for kingdom mob. Does it need to be more like crunch time for the planet? They've already ruined the, the, um, easy pronunciation because it should have been rot, Pota dot Pota, caught Pota. Right? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:23 One of them was war for the planet. The ap so they're already ruined what would have what would have that war for what would have been or else the planet the apes no but oh wait yeah okay I see what you're saying I don't like that okay all right Mason all right all right yeah yeah yeah I got a little I got an email yeah from David David that's right hey fellas just wanted to reach out and thank you guys for keeping me sane While I'm in medical leave from work to keep it short I tore my distal bicep tendon the day before my birthday a couple of months ago Oh doing big curls. It seems that way. Girls get the girls and if that's what you want the torn tendon
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah, and I've been off work since finally got surgery to repair it this week. Torn tendons get you Brendan Fraser Love that. Oscar. He'll give it to you. If he sees the gory stuff, you got to show him. The pod's been helping me keep track of the weeks as they go by and I've got all the way through. We've got this covered covered. Working on Never Go Back lately. Thank you. Many thanks for keeping me entertained and in good spirits. What's the worst injury you've ever had, James? Not much actually. Same. I've been pretty lucky. Are we jinxing ourselves by saying this? I fell off a bike and I put my tooth in my lip and I've got a piece of gravel in my
Starting point is 01:23:29 lip still. That happened in like 1992. So every time you go through the airport, the gravel detector goes off and you have that card that says, no, I've got gravel in my lip. I've got to fight my way out of there. That's right. God, what have I done? I had my appendix out.
Starting point is 01:23:42 It was an injury, not appendix. Another thing, I got my gallbladder out. It was an injury. Not appendix. Another thing. Got my gallbladder out. I was laid out a bit from that. I twisted my ankle once and then I went to work the next day. I'm like, this will be fine. And it still clicks when I move it. Oh my god. I think I probably broke it if I'm honest. Oh, yeah, maybe you did. I want some.
Starting point is 01:24:00 It's swelled up real good. You probably should have got a scan. Yeah, it's too late now. It's been years. I twisted my ankle. And it's green. My foot's green ankle. My foot's green. Is that the one that you twisted? No. I don't know. I twisted my ankle really badly once and I felt the tendon like pop over my bone and I'm like, I've fucking broken that. But luckily it wasn't. Yeah. I was just laid out again. And we also do sick BMX tricks every weekend, but we're fine. That's right. Because we're so good at the BMX tricks. weekend, but we're fine. That's right.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Because we're so good at the BMX tricks. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm due for a pretty severe injury. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. If you see like two men walking across a road with a big pane of glass, don't run down that road. No.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Because they're going to try and avoid you, but you will go through that. Absolutely. Yeah. And you'll cut your throat just like Charlie Chaplin did. Is that what he did? Yeah, he bled out on the street. I'm okay with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:50 This one, Mason, is from Bad Homunid. It says, we're visiting some of the best of and wondered. Do you guys ever watch Arkane? Apparently, I was on both of your lists. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Give up the great work and thanks for the big sandwich. Was it on our list of things we'd seen or hadn't seen? We're going to see.
Starting point is 01:25:05 I mean, we need to watch Arkane. That's based on a video game or something? Yeah, something like that. And apparently it's incredible. Okay, alright. So... It's a new year for animation. I hear there's a new X-Men cartoon.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I won't watch it. Yeah, same. Because, you know, for reasons political. That's right. What do you got, Mason? Sister of Emerald. I will watch Arkane. Okay then.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Anyway, sorry, go on. Good luck. Hey, James and anyway, sorry, go on. Hey James and Mason, I need some advice. My four year old daughter loves Spider-Man after seeing the Disney Junior Spider-Man cartoon with Peter Parker, Gwen Stacy and Miles Morales. The other day she said she wants to be Spider-Man when she grows up.
Starting point is 01:25:36 How do I gently break the news that Spider-Man is a fictional character and she should probably aspire to do something else or should I just wait for her to grow up some more? Thanks in advance. God, I mean you can wait a bit. There's no harm in a little bit of magic in the world. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:25:48 They do just kind of figure it out, you know? And you're like, this is the story and whatever you plant, like the seeds and etc. Yeah, it depends on the kid as well. Yeah, or you could like stand on the edge of a building and be like, save me, Spider-Man. What are you going to do now? Hot chicken out? Interesting. Didn't you just say earlier that you were gonna be spider-man? Oh
Starting point is 01:26:06 You're just a regular good little girl now interesting Coward yeah, yeah, that's tough, but you know She'll be okay if you told her it's just a story or whatever She'll be I know so just be like I don't know maybe you can anything's possible You know this you could talk about all sorts of genetic you know Sure, that's for yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just inject some stuff. See how you go.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Get her a cool Spider-Man costume. Yeah, that would be pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. And people are going to be tempted to be like, well, you've got to get another Spider-Gwen cut. No, you can get another Spider-Man cut. Whatever she wants. It's fine. I've got a photo of my son when he because he these favorite Spider-Man is Miles Morales. So the first Spider-Man thing he saw was the first Spider-Verse.
Starting point is 01:26:47 It's probably too young. But he got that costume. I got this photo of him and he's when he pulled the mask off and he's just got this the grin on his face just like to see themselves in like a Spider-Man because also it's one of the best costumes to get because they're wearing a mask. They're wearing a mask. But also like they even if you get a cheap one, they look good. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Like the Iron Man one, it's like they kind of look like shit, but like the fake kind of... That's true, yeah. ...padded on it, whatever. Well, I mean, Peter Parker, he's got a kid's physique. Yeah. It's all lanky and weird. And they're like, they're tight, so they kind of, they're just, they're good, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Like even a shitty one's pretty good. That's true. Yeah. Cool. Although I wore one last Halloween. Very tight. Well, you wore, didn't you just... I was quite a bit... Peter B Parker....2099. No, that was a year before. Oh, cool. Although I wore one last Halloween, very tight. You wore, you just wore Peter B Parker. No, that was the year before.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Oh, okay. Because you were Peter B Parker one year. That would have been difficult to explain. Oh yeah. All of my ones are difficult to explain. Because you look like half a Spider-Man because he's wearing like a army jacket and two mismatched shoes. Yeah, people didn't know. And then the year after that, I was Casey Jones and people thought I was a serial killer. And then last year, I was Spider-Man 2099. You'd think all the parents would be in that exact year where they recognized Casey Jones. Elias Cotius from the movie you were in. There was one woman.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Or possibly Stephen Amell from that movie where he's a big whiny baby. You remember? There was one woman I met trick or treating and she goes, Miguel Herrera. And I'm like Yes, I just didn't expect anybody would know yeah This is from Superman says hashtag weekly platypod Apparently well the real soups on non tick tock or whatever. No, not that cool guy It's it's from well the handle is at mggddddr.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Is that Superman's real handle? That's his real name. He's not from Krypton, he's got another planet that he flew from and that's his original original planet. Actually weekly planet pod is in it. On his planet mggdds, thanks for hope. Has anyone ever told you guys that you look like the slow mo guys? No offence.
Starting point is 01:28:46 I don't know who those guys are. They do slow mo stuff, yeah. I'm looking at a video. I don't know what they're doing. I bet they're a pack of real goobers. Oh yeah, like generic. So is there a beard guy and a generic guy? There's two beardy generic guys.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Oh yeah, that's us. Yeah, okay, we do look like them, yeah. Actually, I just showed you a picture of yourself and... I know, I know. That's all my tweets Oh, well, here's one more emails from Drew a singular email. That's right. And Drew says hello James and my so Scrolling through Apple podcast. I stumbled on an obscure celebrity podcast entitled fail better with David Duchovny Well, it's about failure and how it shapes us. What are some obscure celeb podcast that you have come across?
Starting point is 01:29:22 I mean obscure Jesus. They they never stop, do they? Well that's the thing, don't they? Get out of our arena, famous, handsome, rich people. Get out of here. We were talking about this earlier. Conan's is great. Yeah, Conan's is great. It's not really obscure.
Starting point is 01:29:34 No, that's what I'm saying. I don't listen to celebrity podcasts. I was going to say, generally speaking, I have no respect. I was bouncing on it. No respect. We have no respect for these people. But Conan's is great. I'm going to look up this David de Cogni thing. Because a lot of the time it's just like yeah, this is another platform
Starting point is 01:29:49 I can monetize. And I'm not saying that like yeah, you should but it is choked with these people and And like again, it's fine for us because I would say our podcast does better than most celebrity podcasts The minor ones. Okay, there's only been a couple of episodes of Fail Better with David de most celebrity podcasts. That's true. The minor ones. Okay, there's only been a couple of episodes of Fail Better with David DeConn. When's it from? May. Oh wow, it's new. Yeah, so like, it's been around for a couple of weeks it looks like.
Starting point is 01:30:13 It is one of those ones where he did it like four episodes years ago and then he stopped. Yeah, okay. Have you ever heard of Alan Alder's podcast? Oh, no I have. He does an interview show, doesn't he? Clear and Vivid it's called. Yeah, no I have listened to that. I love Alan Alder. He's great. Yeah, I'm fine with that. He can interview show doesn't it's called. I love Ellen
Starting point is 01:30:25 He's great. Yeah, I'm fine. You can do whatever and he's it's it's just about also, you know with him Like he he doesn't have to do that. He's 85 years old. So, you know, he wants to do it It's not like him. He's got mash money. He made it. He made billions of dollars in the 80s It's a it's a it's a podcast about Communicating yeah to make communicating better. And he'll talk to people who communicate with animals, and he'll talk about all sorts of stuff. I wish I could communicate better, specifically with Alan Alda.
Starting point is 01:30:55 I watched that M.A.S.H. documentary, loved it. I knew most of it, but I loved it. Of course you did. It's great to know all the stuff you already knew condensed. Oh, it's just seeing new interviews with people who are still alive. Oh, it's just seeing like new interviews with like people who are still alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm cool with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:08 What, what, what, I mean, I don't know, as soon as it's celebrity, it's not really an obscure. Unless it's like De Cognis, which is just in there. A lot of it, a lot of Australia podcasts, it's like this person was on a reality show and now it's called like, um, keeping it real. Fish Finnegan talks to fucking other stuff. Have you invented a guy called fish vinegar? Yes, it's a real person.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Okay. I'd love to know about fish vinegar though. Did his parents name him after fish fingers? Is that how that happened? Yeah. Yeah. I'd love a fish finger. You know, it's, you know, and, and there are good ones. Like always sunny for podcasters. Good. I was fairly good. I'll just, office I just I'll see clips on like YouTube shorts or whatever various podcasts and whatever but I'll I honestly also I don't really listen to that many podcasts anymore because I just I'm gonna look up famous people who have podcasts We'll see we'll get we get a list famous people that have podcasts
Starting point is 01:32:01 But the podcasts aren't very successful. The first result is famous people on Ashley Madison, which is the website for cheating on your wife or whatever. Didn't that get the thing? There's a documentary now. I think it got hacked. Yeah, the documentary got hacked. Yeah, yeah, everybody can see it. Alright, Dax Shepard.
Starting point is 01:32:14 That's the popular one that I don't listen to. Anna Faris has a podcast. Alec Baldwin. Our friend Russell Brand has a podcast. Just kidding. Our friend Russell Brand? Nah, just kidding. Office Ladies is a podcast. Alec Baldwin. Our friend Russell Brand has a podcast. Just kidding. Our friend Russell Brand? Nah, just kidding. Office Ladies. Oh, Riverside is advertising 25 celebrity podcasts to listen to for inspiration in 2024. All these people get like crazy deals. Yeah. And there's better podcasts out there,
Starting point is 01:32:36 us specifically. Correct, yeah. No, I don't think we've ever taken. How did this get made? Oh, I think it's great. That's great. I mean, they- I listened to that before, well before we did this. Yeah, they are. They are. I would say they are, or like it's Paul Sheer and Jason Manzoukas and Paul Sheer's wife Yeah, whose name whose name I do know. Um, you don't I don't currently I did but currently I don't Diane something No, it's uh June Diane Raphael. Yeah, I was close. There was a word in there. Yeah, she's right Yeah, but I mean they I would describe them as character actors who they didn't do this for
Starting point is 01:33:08 purposes of being famous. It's just that that's a passion they have and they just have to. They always get Adam Scott on for a Fast and Furious movie. I do listen to Michelle Obama's podcast. It's called the Michelle Obama podcast. Oh, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's podcast. We refuse to do a podcast. I was going to say, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:23 So that's probably, that probably is an unknown one Because I don't know anybody who's listening to that. That's right. Yeah. Oh, Kate Hudson and her brother Oliver Hudson have a podcast. Oh, Logan Paul has a podcast. I bet he does. I bet it comes out every day. Yeah. Oh, there's the office ladies podcast with Jennifer. I said that already.
Starting point is 01:33:39 You never even ever said a single word to me or others. I'm going to type in worst celebrity podcast. What do we get here? But yeah, Conan. Yeah, I mean, Conan is the gold standard. And again, you know, comedy bang bang and freedom with Paul F. Tompkins and Lauren Lapkus and Scott Elkman. That's a good podcast. I've ever really listened to that.
Starting point is 01:33:59 It's good. It's good fun. I played you a clip where they're doing Wonder Woman bits one time, if you remember that. Was that recently? No, this was years ago. Then no, I don't remember. All right then. All right. All right. All right then.
Starting point is 01:34:11 What's this side? Hang on. I'm just having a look. No, I don't want functional or non functional cookies. Can't I just fucking God fucking that sucks. Awful now. No, it's great. Fucking unusable. I agree. There was that brief magic period. There are a few years where it was beautiful and you could do anything on it. Now it's garbage. You can still listen to podcasts though. James, let's wrap it up. There's an article that says celebrities for love of God, please stop podcasting and whatever.
Starting point is 01:34:39 But yeah, I think again, we talked about this before, but if you're starting something out now and you're not a celebrity, you just need a, like you need a hook. You need a hook. You need to be interesting. I don't know. Like it's, we had a way easier than we should have. Absolutely. That's not, I'm not saying it's impossible.
Starting point is 01:34:53 If you want to do it, you should absolutely do it. It is possible, but it's, it's different now. I agree. Just put it all on TikTok as well. It'll put it on TikTok. Yeah, it'll go viral at some point. That's right. I don't know. Anyway,
Starting point is 01:35:10 that's the whole show folks. Jin! It was me, Ollie! Ollie, it was me banging the table. He's had a little tantrum. Ollie, there we go. Here she comes. Come here, Ollie. No, she thinks it's a big possum. Well, it's not. She's dumb. This is the big possum that taunts my family. That's right. Yeah, go on. Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast. We absolutely appreciate it. Yeah, we do. We do. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends about us, because that is how we get new listeners in
Starting point is 01:35:32 this environment where the celebrities are hoovering up all the gold. They're taking over. They're taking over. I don't like it. Yeah. Let's get them all. Let's get them all. And if you leave a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice, do it in app.
Starting point is 01:35:44 James will read it out. I'll read out your stupid review. No, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. James, we are losing listeners to Dax Shepard. We cannot lose anymore. Well, if we're going to lose it to anybody. It's from Daxman.
Starting point is 01:35:57 The Daxman. Big Daxman. That's right. Jungle Jim gave us five stars and says, a review. These are a couple of classy guys doing good work. Been tuning in since the very beginning and continues to be a very good listener every week. 10 out of 10 would shoot out of my b-hole.
Starting point is 01:36:12 That's good. Nice. And Boo-leo says, go-leo-eglacius? No, no. Boo-leo, the singer. Oh, okay. Yeah. R.I.P.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Ganks is paradise but ghosts. My go-to- Spooky paradise. We could just paradise be spooky. It doesn't matter. My go to for movies. Oh, it's a pleasure hearing that. Let's talk about a movie five out of five always. Thank you so much.
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Starting point is 01:38:44 I'll see you then. Bye. We revel in the chaos. Anyway next week Furious are very exciting. Oh man I'm so excited. Cinemas I've noticed some cinema chains have started started putting in day beds in their cinemas. I think it's at Hoyt's or Village's. Like a chair that turns into one? Well I don't even know what is a day bed. All Hoyt's chairs now are recliners. Nice. But the day beds, they're just bigger beds, but they're right up the front. Like, you are under the screen.
Starting point is 01:39:14 You're touching the wall. And is that a good angle for... No! That's a shame. You think you can get a D-Box day bed? Maybe you could. Or you can make anything a D-Box. Alright, everybody. Grab that gem you guys. We'll see. Well, you can make anything a D-Box. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Grab that jammie, guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. I don't know what that means. Not either, all right. Was it rude? Yep. Sure.
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