The Weekly Planet - 532 The Boys Season 4 Premiere

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

June marks the release of the first three episodes of The Boys Season 4! And on the lead up to talking about that we discuss, the MCU Blade reboot losing another director, Dwayne Johnson's new deal a...t Disney, updates on The Penguin and The Batman Part II, a release date for the DCU's Creature Commando's, a trailer for the two Watchmen animated movies, Furiosa getting dumped from cinemas, Sony buys the Alamo Drafthouse, JK Rowling selling Harry Potter and Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon Snyder Cut. We also discuss the tragic passing of a legend, Ben Potter aka Comictorian. Thanks for listeningNew bonus book club episode and it's Old Man Logan! Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:12 RIP Comicstorian07:16 Blade Movie Cuts Director12:50 Dwayne Johnson Disney Deal18:33 The Penguin & The Batman Updates20:28 Creature Commandos in December (with Superman?)21:04 The Watchmen Animated Movie Trailer25:35 Furiosa Removed From Cinemas28:14 Sony Pictures Buys Alamo Drafthouse30:18 J.K. Rowling Selling Harry Potter to Warner Bros?37:50 Zack Snyder Reveals Rebel Moon Directors Cuts41:15 Doom: The Dark Ages Trailer43:30 The Boys Series Ending with Season 547:26 The Boys Season 4 Review (spoiler warning 57:18 to 01:18:51)01:18:51 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:26:10 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From Yorgos Lanthimos, the Academy Award nominated director of Poor Things and The Favorite, comes Kinds of Kindness, a darkly hilarious and unpredictable film that critics are calling mind-bendingly brilliant. Featuring an all-star cast led by Emma Stone, Jesse Plemons, and Willem Dafoe, Kinds of Kindness is a wild ride that will leave audiences discussing the experience long after it's over. Don't miss Kinds of Kindness in select theaters June 28th. Everyone knows therapy is great for solving problems, but getting therapy has its own problems too, like finding the right therapist, fitting into their schedule, and of course,
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Starting point is 00:01:05 and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always, Nick Mason's here. It's great to be here. We have Mad Respectful. Thank you. You were saying that earlier. He was even saying that off air. That's not true actually. No he did. He opened the door and he said, I've got mad respect for you. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Why would I do that? And then you did that disrespectful thing where you crack open a can of soda. Why is it disrespectful? I don't know. It just feels like it is. Is it disrespectful to be caffeinated on a podcast? Or am I giving everybody the best version of myself? That's actually true. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. That's the only way we remain alive and awake on these podcasts. Even though you've questioned my ability to do a podcast or open a can, I still have mad respect for you though. I need you to know that. God, what an impenetrable layer of an intro this is. It doesn't make questioned my ability to do a podcast or open a can, I still have mad respect for you though. God, what an impenetrable layer of an intro this is. It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Zero sense. It doesn't need to. But we are going to be talking about this week, Mason. I should say also, you also get the can, you can seal it under the table. Because you know what I was thinking, just as this podcast started, what I would do is like, I was thinking as soon as you hit record, I would grab the can and I would crack it open so you can't do it. But you're a step ahead. You're a step ahead and you keep it under there so I can't even see it. God, you're good.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Mad respect. Thank you. Mad respect goes both ways. It does too. I think that's the message of this podcast, mad respect goes both ways. But only if someone has mad respect for you. That's true. So who, I mean one of you has to say it first in the hope that the other person has mad respect Look, it doesn't matter Mason We're gonna talk about the boys episodes one to three this way if you're out there and there's maybe you're in school
Starting point is 00:02:35 There's a girl you like you should go up to them and be brave and say listen. I got mad respect respect Yeah, I just hope she says it back. Yeah, I love that. Don't worry about it Also in the news leading up and there'll be time codes below Rob Collins who edits this he takes care of all that You know me talking about the passing of comic story and Ben Potter, which is very sad news We're gonna get into blade So there's you there's movement on the blade front. There isn't Backwards movies. It's still movement. There's a movement is's a moonwalk which is ironic for Blade. Oh it looks forward.
Starting point is 00:03:06 But it's also moonwalk. Yeah. Vampires famously fear the moon. And he's also like he's in the Midnight Suns. Yes. Yeah, that's good. That's why the vampires are always out at night. They're always running around.
Starting point is 00:03:17 They're fleeing the moon. We're also going to talk about Dwayne Johnson's new deal at Disney. What? Released, oh yeah, release dates for The Penguin, an update on The Batman Part One, two and three. Which parts? Just don't worry about it. Creature Commandos, gots a release date.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Oh, gots a release date. A trailer for Watchmen, Watchmen is back. What? What? Who watches the Watchmen trailer. Furios are being pulled from cinemas, JK Rowling potentially selling Harry Potter to Warner Brothers. And of course, Zack Snyder himself. Some Rebel Moon updates.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I love that. Yeah. And it's big in news. It's big in news, Mason. It's big in news. And we have mad respect for him. That's so true. Alright, we're going to start with this. Do we?
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah. Like genuinely. I think so. I think we might. Yeah, he's doing it. He is doing it. Can't argue with that. You can't argue with results. No. You can't argue with Rotten Tomatoes scores.
Starting point is 00:04:10 You can and people do. Oh, yeah. Always, constantly. So, yeah, this is really sad news. So Ben Potter, who people would probably know as Comic Story, and he passed away in a car accident at age 40 last week. So Comic Story, and if you listen to this, you're probably aware, he's got a YouTube channel where it's basically breaking down various comics and various runs and just
Starting point is 00:04:28 over the years, he's been doing it for 10 plus years. Hugely successful. I would say very responsible for introducing a lot of people to comic books. Absolutely. Yeah. Because they can be quite impenetrable. A lot of the time, you've got 50, 60, 70 years of comic book history or what have you. And he was very good at sort of breaking it down and being like, if someone was like, oh, I'm interested in, you know, daredevil or what have you, he'd have a brief and entertaining rundown of that character and then you'd be like, oh, I feel I can do it now, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. He was really good at, yeah, not only introducing comics, but also his
Starting point is 00:05:01 community was great as well. I think similarly to this one, there is that idea that you don't need to know everything about comics. Everybody starts somewhere. It was very accessible. You start by knowing everything, James. You start. Yeah, you're right. I'm just going to read this message from his wife, Natalie Potter. So two days ago on June 8th, my husband, Ben Potter passed away in an unfortunate accident. To many of you, he was a comic story and voicing stories from across multiple different mediums. To his loved ones, he was one of the best and most supportive individuals anyone could have asked for, as a husband, a son, a brother, a friend or even just as a stranger. Ben was loving and genuine. He was someone who would listen and make time for his loved ones. He would do his best to make everyone laugh and make sure they were okay. He was our rock and he'd
Starting point is 00:05:44 reassure his loved ones whenever they needed it. He was my world and I need time to be with my friends and family. I have so many things I need to figure out but firstly, I need to grieve. I ask that you respect my privacy as well as everyone else's. Right now my priority is preserving everything he's built and I don't have any plans beyond that. His channel was one of his greatest accomplishments and while we all need time to mourn him, I know he wouldn't want it to end like this. Ben spent over 10 years spreading his love and appreciation for his hobbies. It went through his love of exciting stories and well-written characters that got him started on YouTube. The team and I want to keep that
Starting point is 00:06:15 going to honor him by continuing to tell great stories by great people as well as to keep the memory of our own very own superhero alive. We supported each other on everything we wanted to do and I'm not about to stop now." So yeah, that's a beautiful message from Natalie. And just the outpouring of messages, like it's not only from other people who are on YouTube, but also like comic creators and just the community in general has been really fantastic. And it's a shame, I mean, he knew like that he was loved and you know, he was always very popular at cons and whatever. Yeah, it's a shame that he didn't, you know, he didn't
Starting point is 00:06:44 get to see this, you know what I mean? And the impact that he had. I knew him a little bit, like we did a few podcast collaborations, this was years ago. He was always very fun and courteous and enthusiastic. He was a genuinely good dude.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I didn't know him in person, but obviously we'd spoken online. Sal from Comic Pop was really close with him after Beautiful Message. Rob from Comics Expl was really close with him after a beautiful message. Rob from Comics Explained, they kind of came up together. He did a video on his YouTube channel about him, which I suggest people check out. Yeah, everybody just spoke really highly of him.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah, it's very easy, I think, when we're doing stuff like this or talking about comic books or superhero movies or whatever to get very cynical about that sort of stuff. Or to focus on the negative. But I think like generally speaking, focused on the positive and made it kind of an inviting world to jump into. Absolutely. I think that enthusiasm was so important. It wasn't, and look, it's easy to fall into like, oh, this sucks and whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:38 There's a new writer, it sucks. Yeah. And talk about it. I change the thing and it sucks. Yeah. And not to say that everybody doesn't do that at some point, but it was really what he did was like a celebration of comics in all its different forms and over the decades and yeah, and also in his personal life. I mean, I know Rob from Comics Explained tells a story about how he brought him out of a
Starting point is 00:07:58 really dark time and he always had time for his friends and all of that. So yeah, just really sad, honestly. Yeah, so yeah, just bad stuff. Just bad stuff, James. Yeah. Can we turn this around? Yeah, let's turn it around, Mason. So this is via the rap. So according to an insider with knowledge, getting black-
Starting point is 00:08:23 That's the best kind of insider. I agree. We asked an insider. They didn't know,'s the best kind of insider. I agree. We asked an insider, they didn't know, but they said they'd guess. They'd have a crack at it. Blade, the movie Blade, announced in 2019. Not simply the concept of a blade. No, no, no, is much more important
Starting point is 00:08:37 than getting the film out. So getting it right, sorry, is more important than just pushing the movie out. They are now onto their sixth writer. The original director, of course, Basim Tariq, he left over creative differences. Oh, but they've got a new director. Well, they have a new director, but it-
Starting point is 00:08:51 And they continue to have a new director? Mason Yan Dimenge, he stepped away. He's gone, this doesn't have a director. What are you saying? You're using some odd language there, he stepped away? Well, it says- He simply stepped away from his, did he step away from the scene to sit in his director's
Starting point is 00:09:06 chair? No, no, no, Mason. I'm going to contemplate some more directing I'm going to do on this movie. Despite having a release date of November 7th of 2025. November. You don't know any of these facts. I know some things. This insider doesn't know nothing. It doesn't. It's coming out in November, I think. Yeah, I'm on the set. I'm here. November 7th of 2025, it's coming out apparently, despite not having a confirmed director. Jeff Snyder said Mahershala Ali had grown frustrated with the director and apparently he's difficult to work with. I mean, who knows what that means. You know, like people can be frustrated
Starting point is 00:09:40 with each other and the first person to say it could be the one that that's the story. Yeah. You know, so this is, I mean, I do get the sense from what we've seen over the years that this is a passion project for Mahershala Ali and also Marvel and they really want to get it right. Yeah. They seem to be just be tripping over themselves. Yeah. To get to that point. I wonder what the stumbling block is. Do you think, like if you say, if someone says, oh, the director's difficult, is the director difficult?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Or is the director facing difficulties from someone above them? Is it a case of like, well, look, we're going to have this ongoing blade story, but you need to put in the references to the Black Knight and you need to put in references. We're going to bring back the Eternal, so you better make a reference to that. Oh, and we're going to have the sequels. We're going to have Midnight Sun. So if you could, we? But I'd make a reference to that. Oh, and we're gonna have the sequels, we're gonna have Midnight Sun, so if you could, we're gonna put that scene in, obviously, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:28 And I'm wondering if everybody might be struggling with that, I don't know. Absolutely, yeah, and you wanna kinda get it right, because there already is a Blade Legacy. Well, they could call this Blade Legacy. Blade Legacy, Origin Zero. And it's like, it's well- It's got Zero Sugar.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah, it's also, it does feel like it is the birth of like the modern Marvel movie the MCU stuff took a lot from Blade Yeah, like the direction of that franchise. I mean being difficult could be it was always ice skating uphill Exactly well how I imagine difficult when I think about a director on set or trying to make something happen You're picturing he's wearing a sort of like Jodhpur style pants? Yeah, he might be. Like they're sort of blooming out at the size of the thighs. And he's got like a beret and a cigarette and a holder. Yes. And he's got like-
Starting point is 00:11:12 It's a megaphone but it's not- It's just cardboard. It's just a cardboard. Yeah. It's just he's yelling into a tube basically. Yeah, yeah, did that even work? But that's not even the difficult part. The difficult part I'm imagining is that
Starting point is 00:11:21 there was a bucket of loose, like wet cement. And he put his foot in it, he didn't realize and it had dried. Oh yeah, and now he's just clunking around with this bucket of cement on his foot. God, that would be difficult, wouldn't it? Can you imagine trying to like, trying to get to a meeting, and you've got a bucket of cement on your foot? That's right. Yeah, yeah. Like, how would you even do that? Well, you'd have to... They'd have to let you go. Well, you'd have to... First, I mean, I imagine you would hope that the meeting is somewhat close by and then you could yell into your cardboard chair that's a bit like a megaphone
Starting point is 00:11:49 and be like, I'm running a little bit late because I stood in a bucket of cement and it dried and I'm clamping and clamping about like some sort of cement legged pirates. Could have one on each foot. That's right. We don't know. And there's just a seat like there's, you know, all your extras are there and everybody's dressed like Errol Flynn with little tweedly mustache, you know? They're yelling cut and like not happy with it. And there's alarms going ring ring ring ring ring.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And the actors like, I can't bloody work like this. People are lifting up the walls of the set and moving them around. Yeah, the actor's doing an accent but then they cut the actor, the actor slips into their normal accent. Yeah, which is different. Like, I can't bloody work like this on Blood, you know? Yeah, yeah. They can't do it. God, it must be...
Starting point is 00:12:28 They don't work with amateurs. It must be crazy on the set of Blade. And he's got that bucket of cement on his foot. Got a bucket of cement on his foot. Exactly, yeah. God. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Anyway, so it's probably something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The leading lady's there, she's like, oh, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Anyways, this is my first role in hollywood oh you know yeah yeah exactly that's a dog eat dog industry that's exactly right yeah we know that exactly and harry styles is there as eros eros is there the eternal of love he's there you know he was in that movie he's waiting for his cameo it's a good movie yeah it's a good movie wasn't it
Starting point is 00:13:04 that's right i'd have to get in the Willy Lumpkin. He's got to be there. He's there too. That's right. God. Excuse me. I got some letters from Blade. Bye, Hunter.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I'm Blade. Classic Blade. Yeah. I'm sorry. This actually says blurred. This is a bit. Blurred lines? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Yep. Oh, no. It's the lyrics to blurred lines? Yes, it is. Yes. OK, yes. Okay, great. We'll see what happens there. This could fall apart completely, right?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Like those sets. The actor could leave. He's probably like, I'm finally going to get you Dracula and it's just the wall of the set falls down. Cut! Et cetera. The thing we said happens again. I can't work like this!
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yeah, that's right. Oh, it's my first role in Hollywood! Clunk, clunk, clunk. Clunk, clunk. Yep, that's right. Every day on this bloody set. I can't work like this. Yeah, that's right. Oh, it's my first role in Hollywood. Clunk, clunk. Clunk, clunk. Yep, that's right. Every day on this bloody set.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I don't know how they do it. No. Anyway, this is why Variety, Dwayne Johnson and Danny Garcia's Seven Bucks production, we talked about them recently. It's the Rocks production company. They've signed a first look deal to develop theatrical and streaming films over at Disney. Disney? Now, this isn't strictly limited to filmed content, if that's what you're thinking.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Live theatre? Yeah, live theatre. Is The Rock going to do some dinner theatre? I'll tell you why. No, you're going to love this. The Rock's going to do dinner theatre at that exclusive club in Disneyland where you can drink. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah. Club, whatever it's called. Club 33, I think it might be called. We talked about it in Big Sandwich stuff. While details weren't immediately discussed. Oh. Variety is- I just want a deal. No details. Give me a deal sign. We'll discuss details later. Sign it. I'm big. Sign it.
Starting point is 00:14:33 You know I've got mad respect for you Disney and I'd hope you have mad respect for me. Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Variety has learned that the multi-year agreement will also give seven bucks a chance to collaborate across all Disney divisions. So this is what Variety has learned that the multi-year agreement will also give seven bucks a chance to collaborate across all Disney divisions. So this is what Variety is saying. Now as you may have heard, Disney operates a parks business. Oh, I've heard that. A direct to consumer sports service.
Starting point is 00:14:55 What? ESPNBC, whatever it is. Oh, okay, ESPN. Oh yeah, I guess. I thought you meant some sort of live thing. Like betting on the dogs. They probably do have betting on the dogs. Except it goofy in Pluto. Yeah fight to the death. Yeah God when it gets the winner the loser dies the winner gets allowed to talk
Starting point is 00:15:12 There's a dog man a stand-up dog man bait a regular dog. Oh, yeah, the dog would win. I would have savagery Yeah, but the man dog has weapons presumably. Yeah, but I reckon Pluto, Pluto probably has like a greater like muscle density. I think he would win. Also, he's pretty cunning in himself because he's a cartoon dog. Plus again, if he wins, he gets to talk, which he can, to be clear, Pluto can talk. He just doesn't because he's not allowed. I didn't know that. Yeah, only the top dog in Disney is allowed to talk.
Starting point is 00:15:39 We'll talk about the boys later. There's a bit of that there, isn't there? You want to see Johnson smirking face on the Jungle Cruise ride, then stop off for a doll whip infused with Tiramana tequila? What about a rock... Shut up. Shut up. If there was anything the other way, I'd want to get drunk before I went on the Jungle Cruise
Starting point is 00:15:56 ride. You can do that. I guess. What about a rock branded boot camp class to tone up... A boot clamp? Are you talking about a big bucket of cementements you put your foot in and it drives? And it's got the rocks face on the bucket And then you walk around Disneyland with a bucket because an extra challenge
Starting point is 00:16:12 I think it makes you feel alive because you're one of those Disney adults who goes to Disney every day and you're like oh There's still an emptiness inside me a better go to better put a plant clamp on Mason You know my wife's in Europe for two weeks. You know my brain isn't working I feel like you're not having mad respect for me right now. Okay, all right. Okay, anyway, the rock stuff. What about a rock branded boot camp class to tone up your dad bod? What? That's pretty mean. That is mean. Plus all the Disney adults get plenty of exercise. They're walking around the park. Well, the kids hit the water slide on Disney's
Starting point is 00:16:42 Titan liner. The possibilities could be endless in the context of the deal. Yes. Yeah. I want to go on the water slide. I get fit before I go on holiday. I don't go on holiday and then do boot camp. I'm not a fucking idiot. You do it the other way.
Starting point is 00:16:57 You're doing the few months leading up, you know? And then you rec yourself at the Disney park. Yeah, exactly. You cut your calories. You know, you get more cardio in. You try to lift heavy to maintain your muscle mass, and then you blow out. You go to Disney World and it's just churros all day. Like everything slurry out of a machine in a cup. Can you imagine like a big white box and a hologram of the rock screaming at me that I'm too fat?
Starting point is 00:17:19 I don't need that. Okay, but what if he's dressed as Jungle Cruise guy? What if he's dressed as the Tooth Fairy? Sure. Or Moana. Yeah, he could be. Maui, whatever. Anyway, this could also just be like Moana and that's it.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Now, what I imagine, I've only ever been to Euro Disneyland, which barely counts. And I went to Japan Disneyland and that also barely counts. That's right. But when I imagine like a Disneyland or Disney World, you sort of, you imagine the Disney Castle and then all like like maybe there's fireworks, but there's also like hot air balloons floating around. Hot air balloon in the shape of the rock's head. Oh yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 00:17:50 But just a bunch of them and they're swarmen. On us? Yep. God, I love that. Yeah. I mean, we talked recently, very recently, like a few weeks back about the deals that people have made in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah. And what they amount to a lot of the time, nothing. So this could be like, this could literally be like Moana and nothing. Though famously, 7 Buck Productions have never signed any kind of exclusivity thing. They were going to bounce around different stuff, like a big balloon. Okay, but surely, wouldn't this, a lot of this would be new stuff, right? Yeah, it would be. Because he wouldn't be showing up and being like, here's the deal,
Starting point is 00:18:27 here's the deal, mad respect, more Moana stuff. Because they'd be like, we own that already. Well, they are doing more because he's doing Moana 2 and then he's doing live action Moana. But he doesn't need to sign a deal with his production company for that, right? Yeah, you're probably right. Unless this already happened prior to those things being... Oh. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Should we move it along to the next segment? Yes. The rock-themed popcorn bucket. Oh yeah. Which part do you eat from? Top of his head. Like he's a Frankenstein. Like he's a Frankenstein.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Take the top off, there's popcorn in there. Yeah, that's true. Variety says that the Penguin, the series... All the rock-shaped head backpack. Think about that. Oh yeah. Is it real size? So it's like, it's like, it's big for a head but too small for a backpack? No, I think it's backpack size, so it's way too big for a head. And you're just walking down the main
Starting point is 00:19:17 drag of Disney World or whatever and there's just kids with enormous rock heads on their backs, you know? Kids famously love the rock's giant head. Yeah. As I can tell from all those black atom toys flying off the shelves. Well, I could melt some of those down. Yeah, true. Variety said that The Penguin will stream in September of 2024. Now, Hello, my time to shine hello went to Twitter.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Not a great success. Do you have the stats there? I don't have the stats stats but I can bring that up And they say that Batman part two and three will shoot back to back James Gunn was asked if this was true and he said it is not so it's wrong. Yes, it's wrong It was also asked if it's cancelled because I feel like look I don't I don't know. I don't know. Yeah Okay, so according to Marvel studio spoilers, My Time to Shine Hello has a 67.06 accuracy rate. Okay, so two out of three.
Starting point is 00:20:10 That's a little better than average, if average is 50, which it might not be. Yeah, it's better than a coin flip. Yeah. But it's completely average for a three-sided coin flip. True. And a lot of the stuff would be like Andrew. Which is heads, tails, lands directly on its side on the table and doesn't waver. Which you'd think would be statistically unlikely, but it's actually... It's possible.
Starting point is 00:20:29 It happens a third of the time. Like it's like Andrew Garfield's going to return to Spider-Man. It's like, yeah, probably. You could say that. I can say that. That's right. Because I know it to be true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:39 But Garfield's going to come to Spider-Man. Is he? That's unlikely. Oh wow. So that's, I mean, that's a bigger swing, isn't it? Anyway, the Batman 2 is not... I love lasagna, but I hate the Green Goblin That's fair enough. Yeah. Yeah Green Goblins are menace. That's right. Not like spider-man who's called the menace Um, so yeah, Batman 2 is not being cancelled. Okay, I think it could be anything could be yeah
Starting point is 00:20:59 I don't know. It's been a long time It's gonna be at like 2026. The last one was It's been a long time. It's gonna be at like 2026. The last one was 2021 or 2? Have you ever considered using your powers for evil, James? Yeah. Where you could set up a comic book industry kind of insider Twitter account and just use that insight. You'll be like, I think it could be cancelled. It's cancelled. You just think about it. Oh, yeah. And then you just say a lie.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Okay. You know, I probably could do that. I think you could. I will. Oh, great. I won't. I haven't got time for that. We also we do know that Creature Commandos is coming out in December, which will be the official first DCU thing. Not the Flash. Whoa. Not Blue Beetle. Not Aquaman 2. Not Aquaman 2, The Lost Kingdom. They tried to trick us into saying that those were part of it, but they're not. That's right. That's right. We know the last shot of the real DCEU was Ocean Master eating that cockroach burger. That was it. A fitting finale.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah. And there's rumors this week that it will feature Superman, which wouldn't surprise me because there's going to be characters in that that go into live action and vice versa, etc. Speaking of DC, we got trailers, a trailer, a very, very short 42 second trailer for Watchmen chapters one and two. That's right. Now they're using a 3D animation popularized more recently in the TV show Reboot.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Did you ever see that? The TV series, the kids TV series Reboot. Yeah, the one from the 90s. Yeah, I have seen that. Of course I've seen that. Do you remember it? Yes. Yeah. So what I'm saying is it's like that. Dot was there, Dot Matrix. Yeah, okay. And other
Starting point is 00:22:28 characters. Chevy Chase? Chevy Chase was not in it. No, he's not. I'm thinking of National Lampoon. Vacation. You are thinking of that. Yeah. The Vacation series. The Vegas one. Yeah. You're thinking of Vegas Vacation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if? It's kind of that what if style. It is, yes. And people say, why do this? I mean, we ask that question every time there's a new watch with anything. What do you think of the animation and the looking? I don't love this 3D kind of thing, to be honest. No. But if you want a 2D animated version of the watch, there's one on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's just the comic. The motion comic show, yeah. If you aren't keen on that. I don't think we need this, but I'm glad it's there for someone to watch. They're putting the pirate stuff in you reckon? Maybe the pirate stuff's live action, they'll flip it like the Zack Snyder one. Whoa, okay maybe, yeah sure. Pretty cool right?
Starting point is 00:23:13 Wouldn't that be cool? And it's very low budget. Oh yeah, oh yeah. The sets are always falling down. Oh yeah. And then the ring cut. I can't work like this. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It's Jerry Butler. He's back. Now we don't have any confirmation on any of the cast. We don't know if anyone's coming back from the movies or whatever, but I looked at the Rotten Tomatoes trailer and I don't know if this means anything, but it says, check out the teaser trailer for Watchmen chapters one and two starring Adam Driver. Now that could just be a Megalopolis trailer thing that they've taken over and they've forgotten to take out some of the stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yes. a Megalopolis trailer thing that they've taken over and they've forgotten to take out some of the stuff. Yes. But I could see him as a comedian or basically anybody actually. Yeah, sure. It could be anybody in that, even the squid. Hello, I'm the squid. They're putting the squid back? They're putting the squid back, right?
Starting point is 00:23:56 I reckon we're in an era where it would be the squid, yes. Yeah, absolutely. So apparently there's going to be one of these, it will be later this year, and then the next one in 2025. The motion comic itself, if you look at it, it's like five hours long. It is, yeah. The YouTube one. So just read it.
Starting point is 00:24:11 It is a real release. It's not just a YouTube thing. No, it is. Yeah, but it's on YouTube. It is on YouTube. You don't have to pay for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And once again, it's one voice for everybody. Yeah. It's one guy doing all the voices. I would say if you haven't read Watchmen, I don't think this should be your first exposure to it. The thing about Watchmen and the way it plays with time and just the reading itself is a real experience. Yeah. And I, which you cannot capture in a linear, in a movie where you can't stop and absorb and it's just. There is a reason that Watchmen remained unadapted for so many years.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Despite being adapted so much. Exactly, poorly. No, mostly though. And it's because the storytelling was made to suit the format of comic books. You get the comic sections and you get the prose sections and the interviews and the biographies and the pirate stuff and all that and it all works together and any translation by its nature has to be missing something. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Speaking of missing, Dong or No Dong? On Doctor Dong Hatton. You would never see his Dong in the animated version. I reckon we will. You think so? I reckon they do an R-rated. I reckon we'll see his dong. Do you think it'll be just like a cut frame from The Simpsons movie where you see Bart's?
Starting point is 00:25:30 I don't think they'll probably use that, no. Okay, right. I'm just saying it's there already. I mean, The Simpsons are owned by Disney now, so... Oh yeah, it's true. You'd have to license it out, wouldn't you? Somebody would have to sign that contract. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:40 God, they'd have to 3D animate that dong though, won't they? They're not going to he's gonna be underpants All he's gonna be don't my he's not there's no way. All right, let's put let's put money on it. Okay, one earth dollar Yeah, you're gonna get a you're gonna bet a million dollars No, wow, why would I that's silly I Was also gonna say what earth dollar? Okay, great. From which part of Earth? Australia. Alright then. Which is the main part of it. One gold coin.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah, the one place that doesn't have any accents. Australia. Actually that would be really good, cause every now and then my son's school will have like a plain clothes dress day, and they're like, you have to bring a gold coin. I'm like, for fuck's sake, and I gotta, gotta root around the house. You gotta crack open that treasure chest of gold doubloons you have. Exactly, you know it. You know it, Mason.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You know, and then you tip it, and spillet and it's like, ring cut! You know, and it really... Oh, I can't work like this! Exactly, the set falls down. Here's my real accent. I can't work like this! So I really talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Wow. Mason, this is via the Hollywood handle. I saw this. Okay. Furioso Mad Max Saga has been removed from 880 theaters across the U.S. only within two weeks of its release. The film has earned, earned, they earned apparently... $8?
Starting point is 00:26:48 Last weekend it earned $4.2 million. As in not this weekend, just gone the month before. Leaving it in the top five. Top five's not nothing. This is a disaster. It seems like a disaster, yeah. This is a bad thing. We're never going to see another Mad Max movie.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Unless, you know what, it could do well on streaming and whatever. I mean, I know we say like, don't pull things from cinemas. We do say that, but nobody listens to us. But also like, what could they do at this point? I mean, we said the other day, and I still stand by that you have to just stop releasing things on streaming, you got to wait a really long time and like retrain people to go to cinemas if you want
Starting point is 00:27:23 people to go to cinemas. Yeah. But I don't also there should be theater ads where there's an ad and they just goes and just goes just go down the supermarket before and get your popcorn and treats. Just just this time it's just going to be all you think so it's going to be a bunch
Starting point is 00:27:37 of ads just duck out. Go down to Coles. The guy at the front won't check. No, just get a packet of skittles and whatever. It's cheaper there. Yeah. Big Fanta. Get a big Fanta. A big warm Fanta. Get a big warm Fanta. front won't check. Nah, just get a pack of skittles and whatever. That's cheaper there, yeah. Maybe a big Fanta.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Get a big Fanta. A big warm Fanta. Get a big warm Fanta, we don't mind. Let's all go to the lobby and get a big warm Fanta. Eww. And this is just a picture of a kid going like, eww. I guess. It's too big too.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I don't want this much Fanta. So you're saying that the cin should say we don't, they should let people indulge their worst impulses. They should be like, yeah be on your phone if you want. Please come to the movies, you can be on your phone if you want. You can sit in any seat you want. We're gonna sell a side seat but you can sit in James's seat
Starting point is 00:28:16 if you want. And this is like a surveillance photo of you. Like it's dark but somebody's taking a photo of you with a flash on you like, ugh. I got a big gonna be a big one fan and you're sitting in somebody else's seat because somebody was sitting in your seat. So you're already annoyed but now you're annoyed and confused. And it's a photo of that and you and it's like you can sit in this guy's seat. I just want to preserve the cinematic experience.
Starting point is 00:28:43 That's all you get. I have a both way. I can actually. I don't know the cinematic experience. Sure. That's all. You can't have it both ways. I can actually. I don't know if you can. This thing is you can't charge that much for tickets and then also additionally charge that much for food. That's true. People don't like it and they've never liked it but it's worse than ever.
Starting point is 00:28:56 What about buy a ticket free choc top? It's a great deal. It is a great deal. It is a great deal that I've invented. Yeah, $5 on a Tuesday. It's good stuff man. It is a great deal. It is a great deal that I've invented. Yeah five dollars on a Tuesday Mmm, it's good stuff man. Yeah, stop buying. Well, I don't even buy I only really might get a popcorn if my kids are there like I don't buy cinema. Yeah Yeah, now speaking of cinemas. Did you say this James is a bit of news
Starting point is 00:29:15 I love news say that Sony says Mason's one bit of news that famous segment you stopped doing for six months. Yes Because we got tired of doing the bit. Yeah to doing for six months. Yes, because we got tired of doing the bit. This is from the Hollywood Reporter James and I've just remembered it. Sony Pictures acquires the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema. Oh yeah. Landmark dealer puts studios back in the theatre game. Because for more than seven decades studios weren't allowed under certain conditions to own an exhibition company under the paramount consent decrees which were rescinded in 2020. I find it laughable there was ever any rules that people couldn't own something. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Because this is all out the fucking window. Yeah it is, isn't it? So in 1948, the United States Supreme Court were like... Communists. Exactly. They went to Paramount and they're like, you can't make films and also have a bunch of cinemas. Yes they can. Well, they couldn't for a while.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Okay. So how do you feel about this? Is this the way to preserve cinemas? Yes, I can. Well, they couldn't for a while. Okay. Yeah. So how do you feel about this? Is this the way to preserve cinemas? Like if Sony, a company with a lot of money who love making bad decisions, if they want to do this to keep them alive, do you think it will? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:17 People like the Alamo draft house, I think. I don't know. They seem to. I've never been to one. I don't know. I've never heard something like this happening and then it's good, ultimately. So look, no, it's probably bad, but I don't know. I think people don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:30:28 So they're all panicking. It's all, it's like the board has been flipped and the pieces haven't hit the floor yet. So we just don't know what's going to happen. That's very true. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. I mean, this will, this will be a big opening weekend for Craven the Hunter though, won't it?
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah. Because it'll exclusively Craven in the Alamo draft. big opening weekend for Craven the Hunter, though, won't it? Because it'll be exclusively Craven in the Alamo draft. Every screen will be Craven the Hunter. Can't wait to watch Craven the Hunter in Sony cinema. Yeah. Craven, Craven my son. You must learn to kill. But I'm Russell Crowe.
Starting point is 00:30:58 But I want to love animal. No, you can't. He just slips into his regular set. My scarf is 100% Dodo Bird. I kill all the Dodo Birds. Okay, that's fair enough. I'm Craven Senior. Russell Craven.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You're Craven Seniors, are you? No. Rude. Different thing. Mason, J.K. Rowling might move on from Harry Potter. Oh. So this is by industry insider. To do her famous Cormoran strike detective series.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah. Great. You should be with that. How many have you read? None. Did you know there's also a TV series? No. There is.
Starting point is 00:31:33 What's it on? I don't know. I think I've just remembered this. I think it might just be called Strike. The British bullshit streaming network. Yes. That's exactly right. I love that one.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Tip Top Tetley T TV. That's what it's called. Strike. Om Jason Strike. Om Jello. Yeah, it's a British crime drama television series. You've got me all in a tizzy. Om Jason Strike.
Starting point is 00:32:00 That's right. The program, Two M's and an A, was first broadcast on BBC One in 27 August 2017. What? Yeah. Never heard of it. Five series. What? 15 episodes.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Oh, British. It's British, yeah. They're Sherlocking it. Yeah, Sherlocking it, yeah. Cormorant Strike. Love it. What's Tom Burke? Who's he?
Starting point is 00:32:20 Praetorium Jack from Furiosa. Oh, that's cool. Is it? Yeah. Is it cool? I like him. Yeah. I'm going to watch this show now. No, that's cool. Is it? Yeah. Is it cool? I like him. I'm going to watch this show now.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah, no you're not. No. You're absolutely not. I'm never going to watch it. You're right. You're right. Anyways, industry insider Jeff Snyder. From the insider y'all, mate.
Starting point is 00:32:35 That's right. This is two hits from Jeff Snyder this week. He's doing a lot of work. He's doing a lot of heavy lifting. A lot of lying. Maybe. So the Warner Brothers discovery has already attempted to buy Rolling out of their co-owned franchise.
Starting point is 00:32:47 This feels like rolling squeezing as much juice as she can from the Harry Potter orange before WBD inevitably buys her out to get rid of her as the original stars won't return while she's still around. So yeah, this to me makes sense that Warner Brothers want to do this, right? Let's think about this, right? Because she doesn't really want to do anything with it at the moment. The Fantastic Beasts films are done. It was supposed to be five. We were supposed to still be in it. Or the last one was happening maybe now. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Right now in the Fantastic Beasts universe, World War II would be happening and everybody would be like, yes, finally. Yes, we're doing it. Wizard Hitler, teaming up with regular Hitler. Yeah, so those movies are a bust though. They got to three and went fuck it. Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't worry about it Actually, yeah, this was dumb. Don't worry about it. There was a prophecy But we just had a we just had two guys have a scuffle at the end of this one So it counts over a magical horse. Yeah The other thing is like she's just terminally onlineally online, just crying about trans people.
Starting point is 00:33:46 She doesn't want to do anything with Harry Potter. She was writing those Fantastic Beasts movies or in the end co-writing them. As mentioned, none of the stars want to return for the Cursed Child. Doesn't seem that way. They don't endorse any of the things that she believes most of them for the most part. And there is this thing like, well, they're ungrateful or whatever. Just like- Who's this? Who's this voice? People who are like, well, Daniel Radcliffe, because he got his start doing, yeah, but
Starting point is 00:34:11 like that doesn't mean that he, that she gets to like parrot opinions through him for the rest of his life. That's fucking insane. What are you talking about? Also, they're doing a TV reboot, which is, nobody wants that. If you're See, that's no, no, I don't think they do. I think general audiences do. I think a lot. I think many, many like it's one of those things like the reason Harry Potter is such
Starting point is 00:34:33 a huge hit is because it's not it's not all just the fans like it's a you need millions and millions of people to move the needle. Exactly. But I think but I'm saying what most people don't even know about JK Rowling and her opinions or what have you. I think a lot of people are just like, oh more Harry Potter. Yeah, I think you're right there, but I think also if you're a fan of Harry Potter, you'd go back to the movies. So I think like if you're a fan, you've got the movies and or you're not a fan and you're like, why would I watch this? I mean I imagine like they obviously they want a big hit but I think it could very well go the way of the Rings of Power series. Yeah totally.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Which happened and people are like oh yeah they did do that it's not going to be like and it's also I imagine a lot of people have a lot of affection for the original cast because that's what they grew up with and they'll go like oh are we seeing this all again are we? Yeah you know I feel like even if you did it there'd always be this cloud hanging over it and she's Exactly. That's what they grew up with and they'll go, oh, are we saying this all again, are we? Yeah. I feel like even if you did it, there'd always be this cloud hanging over it and she's constantly popping up. Well, she is, it's true.
Starting point is 00:35:31 You know, just saying stuff that I don't agree with. Interesting. But that's my opinion. I thought you saw both sides. No, it's not this one. Look, wherever you're talking about people are always like, well, why don't you say in particular, Sean's got a video on it? There's a thousand videos on it You can you can you can look into one the people that she's endorsed. Yes the things that she said Sean's a very well-known youtuber
Starting point is 00:35:51 He's not a guy. We know he's not a guy I mean, I know a guy called Sean, but I don't know if he has a solid opinion on this you met him You know Sean. Do I know a guy named Sean? Okay, but do I independently know a different guy like not through me. I'm gonna check my Facebook friend. Okay Yeah, you do that check you check your contacts. I've got like three people on this phone. One of them, hey? Yes. I've mad respect for that. You put me in there. The other thing is Warner Brothers needs Harry Potter because not only do they have the movies, there's theme parks and merch and video games and it's all stuck because if JK Rowling isn't moving forward with anything,
Starting point is 00:36:26 they've got this huge machine. I know some Sean's. There you go. But I know they're all SEANs. Oh yeah. That's not good then. But they've got this huge machine. It's basically like Star Wars, but it can't move forward for various reasons. They need to keep the fandom alive and they can't produce new live action stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:46 That's true. Yeah. So they need it. And JK Rowling doesn't want to really do anything. You'll probably just take billions of dollars and step away. The other thing is Warner Brothers needs franchises like Mad Max is a bust. The DCU at this point is uncertain. There are things like Dune's working at the moment, but Dune's not Harry Potter. There's not Dune fucking worlds. That's true, yeah. Like they need this stuff. I mean, they are pooping in weird ways in the Dune universe, which is also true of the
Starting point is 00:37:11 Harry Potter universe, isn't it? That is true. I mean, Dune, they're doing it through pipes and suits and whatever and in Harry Potter that's just on the floor. Or in weird bathrooms, you know? Yeah, in a weird bathroom with a ghost in it staring at your dick. I think also, if whatever way this goes, let's say she doesn't sell it, then we're stuck where we are, right?
Starting point is 00:37:31 But if they sell it, they'll be able to probably move forward with a Cursed Child trilogy, I would say, with the original stars. Because also, there are a lot of people within the Harry Potter community and in the movies and associated with it who aren't like JK Rowling. There are people, there are nice people, let's say, who are associated with this franchise, right? But if they sell it, she sells it, then it's a George Lucas Star Wars situation. And people aren't happy about that either. And then there's going to be like when the new movies do come out and people inevitably hate them and there's all the online discourse
Starting point is 00:38:05 There'll be this revisionist history about this fantastic beast fucking trilogy, which sucks By the way, and that was good for maybe for like one movie And that's it and she'll be hailed as a hero by the true fans and whatever and it's all gonna happen again So that's what's inevitably we're gonna arrive at Whatever happens here. But again, Warner Brothers, they need it. J.K. Rowling isn't going to make any more movies. Probably.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Because she can't. And this is where we're at. Wow. Yeah. I reckon we should just get over it. Just dump it. Just dump this. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:38:40 You've got them. Everybody's got them on DVD. Everyone's got the books. We've got the books on the shelf. Yeah. You know. It's fine. They're just. Everyone've got them, everybody's got them on DVD. Move on. Everyone's got the books on the shelf. Yeah, that's fine. They're just, everyone's got them. That's something we should never dump. What's that?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon. Oh, so true. And because this is exciting news, you might have seen this, but the director's cuts have been announced. That's correct. The director's cuts have been announced of, what's the first one called? Child of Fire? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And then the other one, the Scargiver, but they've been renamed to Trickus. It's now called Chapter One, Chalice of Blood. Okay. Chapter Two, Curse of Forgiveness. Okay. It is hard to forgive, isn't it? It's a curse in a way. Yeah, that's right. At August 2nd? They should have just been called Chapter One, Blood, Chapter Two, Boobs. Because that's what everybody wants in these regions. I think One blood chapter two boobs. Cause that's what everybody wants. I think you start with boobs. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah. Do you? Bloobs? That's just be confusing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can't wait to see a longer version of this, which is worse or a much better version, which they should have released the first time.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Well I'm excited to not watch them again because I refuse. I know we said we wouldn't. Yes. I put my foot down. But what if we did? There's no, you don't even want to do it. I don't. You absolutely don't.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But this is what we do. This is our job. I guess that's true. I know I said I didn't I didn't want to. You're not curious? No, not really. For content. For content sake.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Because all it's going to be is some slightly longer scenes with some more blood. Yeah. And more boobs. I don't it's not there's not going to be some huge narrative change or anything, because there's no there was no need to do that
Starting point is 00:40:25 It's just gonna be yeah more blood. I think what is it? I don't understand how we got here Like it's obviously like the Snyder cut kind of like that's what I mean. They've gone. He's gone. This is the blueprint Yeah, like it worked last time everybody wanted to see a new version So what if we started with a version that I'm going to say that I'm already that I'm going to disown before it comes out and people are going to watch that. But then, yeah, you know, are there any people out here though, like listening to this, this is not an attack on you. I just want to frame frame that frame it like this,
Starting point is 00:40:57 just from the get go. Yeah. Are you a fan of this? And is this right? Are you like, great, let's see this. Cause also what version is this right? Are you like great? Let's see this. Because also what version is even true? Oh that's true isn't it? It's hard in your continuity you know what do you keep and what do you throw away? Yeah it'd be easy to make jokes about this if I remembered anything that happens in either of these movies. I could be like what if there's a different scene where there's and I'm like I can't even remember anything that happens. What if a snake made a phone call to the emperor? Did that happen? Maybe, maybe. I remember after you watched the second one
Starting point is 00:41:29 you were like you struggled to remember the first one. Yeah. And now it's been enough time where you've just it's all gone. It's all washed away. Just slow motion wheat thrashing. He's rubbing his eyes like he's trying to stave off a microwave. James, I got up very early today. Oh. Um. Just think about it. Just think about it. There's not even an icon. There's not even like in the first one, at least somebody flew around on a dragon or whatever. Spider chair. Spider chair.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I don't remember that. Spider assassination chairs. They're in the chairs and the chairs can walk and you put the thing in the back. Oh, I do remember that. And there's a scene where the lead character, in the past, she maybe killed a little girl, but then she didn't. Yeah, that was in the second one. Yeah, that was in the second one. She killed the emperor's daughter.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Oh, that reminds me. The princess. This is going to bring up. Did you see the trailer for Doom of the Dark Ages? Yes. Looks cool as hell, doesn't it? It's a prequel to Doom. Yes. What's the deal, Mason?
Starting point is 00:42:24 So I think this is set, it'd be set after the original generation of Doom games. So after like Doom, Doom 2, Doom 64, but before the Doom 2016 reboot. Before it goes into Stasis. Yeah, because there's like a missing thousand years or something where he was like fighting demons in hell for a really long time. So it's cool. So we got, so it's the same guy, but we got, we got we got Oh, we got a he's got a Captain America style shield that he can fling around But it's also got like a chainsaw blade on the outside Christian Bale American Psycho. Ooh Exactly. He's got his classic super shotgun double barrel. He's got
Starting point is 00:42:59 Always got a gun that he puts skulls in and it crushes up the skulls and it turns it into like shards that he can shoot At people that's cool. That's pretty cool. There is you can fly you can fly a dragon around on a dragon. So it's all set in hell. Seems that way. All like hell style dimensions. Yeah, there is some you do see some scenes where it's like in the sort of in the clouds. So maybe that's you know, one of the one of the heaven style planets. But also he fights if you fight in one of the giant mechs. Sick. Because in the previous two games, there's been scenes where there's like, you see mechs fighting in the background, or
Starting point is 00:43:30 you see like the ruins of a mech. Yeah, you know, buried underground or what have you, but it's like, we're going to do the mechs. So one of the one of the, I think one of the concept designers for these games worked on Pacific Rim Uprising. Oh, that's a bit of fun. I don't mind that movie that everyone hates. Oh, yeah. When is that? So when is the first Doom set? Is that set in the 90s? And the new one said like a thousand years in the future? Is that the idea behind it?
Starting point is 00:43:52 Sorry, which one? The new Doom. I mean, the original Doom, when's that set? Well, they're all set the future. Right. But I think the idea Yeah, because it's on Mars or whatever. Yeah. But I think the idea is that time is all relative in hell. So he's yeah, and he is a thousand years in hell is in a thousand on earth and maybe but also he is a mortal.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Oh, yeah, because of you got put in a machine sick. Yeah, that's pretty sick. Yes. Hugo Martin. Yeah, was the Doom creative director was the original concept artist for the mechs in Pacific Rim are the original Pacific Rim the original one. Yeah, and not uprising. Exactly. Great. Anyway, that's Pacific Rim. The original one, yeah. And not Uprising. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Great. Anyway, that's Rebel New Moon News. Rebel New Nini Moon News. Should we talk about the boys? Let's talk about the boys. From Yorgos Lanthimos, the Academy Award nominated director of Poor Things and The Favourite, comes Kinds of Kindness, a darkly hilarious and unpredictable film that critics are calling mind-bendingly brilliant,
Starting point is 00:44:45 featuring an all-star cast led by Emma Stone, Jesse Plemons, and Willem Dafoe. Kinds of Kindness is a wild ride that will leave audiences discussing the experience long after it's over. Don't miss Kinds of Kindness in select theaters June 28th. This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. As a podcast listener, you've heard from us before. Today let's hear from our members about what online therapy has done for them.
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Starting point is 00:45:36 The boys is ending. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. Last week, maybe the week before Eric Kripke, who's the showrunner. On Supernatural, yeah. He said something along the lines of, I can't say. Well, actually, the news article took something he said, and they said, oh, maybe the boys is going to continue forever. And he said, no.
Starting point is 00:45:59 He said he had to keep it vague because he was still, you know, they were negotiating behind the scenes and etc But he said season five is gonna be the last season. So we're just starting season four right now That's right five is so it's probably two years away. I would say from the phone like that. Yeah Yeah, which again we've we've talked about this I'm sure but you know If if you are making a show and everybody gets along and it seems like a good environment And of course and it's successful and you know, it's people are watching it.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Why wouldn't you want to continue with it? But at the same time, if it certain shows, the structure of them relies on it, they're being like a natural arc that ends. Yes. And if you have to kind of write your way out of that ending, after a certain amount of time, it starts to feel a little bit odd. Yeah. And like the idea behind the boys, you would imagine is, well, at the end, we need
Starting point is 00:46:50 a definitive ending. We need a cathartic ending where, you know, maybe Homelander loses or he wins. Yeah, we need something to, you know, we need the arc to end in a satisfying way. And if you do keep dragging that out, you know. People are already feeling it. Like, God, how's he going to get out of this one? And whatever. And he does.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Yeah. The official announcement by Eric Kripke is, the boys' season four premiere week is a good time to announce. Season five will be the final season. Always my plan. I just had to be a cagey till I got the okay from Vought. They're fictional. Thrilled to bring the story to a gory epic moist climax.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You'll say any words. What season 4 in two days. Something we'll find unpleasant. Because the end has begun. No one can watch this season without feeling at the end like it's ending next year, right? So we might as well announce it so people can watch it with that cool epic head toward the end feeling which is what I'm hoping for as mentioned we mentioned this a while but I think we
Starting point is 00:47:48 few weeks back we were like season five season seems good because supernatural was supposed to be five that's right if you watch the five series of that yes it very much feels like that and then I kept going I mean this might God at like season 28 yeah now this will have defeated will be... Well, we've defeated God, what's next? It's me, a bigger God. A bigger God? What are you doing here? Are you God's dad? No, I'm just bigger.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Maybe I'm God's dad. Are you related? I don't think so. Maybe. I don't know what they're up to. Because I mean, you are in that cloud and you seem far, like, roughly you seem about the same size as previous God. Should we do a slightly bigger God this week?
Starting point is 00:48:22 I'm going to be doing a slightly bigger Galactus last week. Is this leading too heavily into this idea that there's a slightly bigger version of something? He could be smaller. I guess as a result, he's swifter. I mean, there would still be a bigger God though, wouldn't there? Because the other one would now be bigger. That's true.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Why didn't that guy call himself bigger God? That's right. So it's no, but I imagine smaller God and even smaller than that God. The first one is just classic God, God classic. God original. And then the other guy would be smaller but swifter. You know? I love that.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Because of the power scaling, you know? Yeah. You know? There's one who's more durable. Yeah. But he's slower. He's slower, yeah. I get boss battles.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I'm glad this is wrapping up. I don't think it's God with a big glowing thing on his head. Oh, you're gonna shoot it. I shoot the thing Yeah, like Gen V is gonna continue. Yep. There'll be other spin-offs probably animated stuff They'll pop up in video games, etc. That's right. So I yeah, this won't end This will be like the Walking Dead where it will just keep going and spitting off it right until it can't anymore But I like that this mainline version is is wrapping up Watching these first three episodes of the new season, which they released on Thursday, it does feel like, yeah, this can't sustain. Not in a dreadful way, but it does feel like, oh, there's not really many surprises here. Yeah, where it feels like we are heading to
Starting point is 00:49:52 An inevitable kind of conclusion. Yeah, and to kind of divert from that suddenly would be odd. Yeah. Oh What do you think the story? You thought you were gonna get me but I knew they do. Yeah. Okay. What do you got? Oh, come on Cuz you actually still have to do it. I mean we did I mean the first episode does have a big recap Yeah, the previous seasons which is almost exclusively people's heads burst. It's just people exploding So the boys yeah, they're still they still want to get that homelander. They're out there He's he's but but tell you what homelander he's on trial. Yeah that murder. He did last season. Yes He is public that public murder. Yeah, and but people are on his side They are some are some off half on his side. Yeah, not on his side
Starting point is 00:50:28 So the boys are gonna deal with that they could also deal with Victoria Newman Yep, who's in line to become the vice president? Mm-hmm. She's also a soup who can burst people's heads a secret soup I love the fact that Her power is just popping heads. Yeah, like it's not like well, I overlawn increase people's mental energy until it now It's just like I just popping heads. It's not like, well, I overload, I increase people's mental energy until it... No, it's just like... I just burst heads. Presumably she can burst anything, but she burst heads because it's most convenient. Anyway, she's secretly there and then there's some... All the boys, they got troubles, don't they? Butchers got a brain tumor. Yeah, or something. Or just some goop in his brain.
Starting point is 00:51:02 He's got some goop in his head. Yeah. That's right. Because in the previous season season he was using an experimental vaunt drug which gives you temporary superpowers and they said if you use this one too many times you'll die and he did use it one too many times because Hugh used it one or two times less and he's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so he's on the way out. Yeah, it's lucky that Butcher got like good superpowers out of that. Oh yeah. Maybe unfortunate that he got the stupid ones. Snake acid face.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Snake acid face, sure. Yeah. Nothing, basically. You could get nothing. Yeah. Little firecrackers. Oh yeah, absolutely. Dazzler style.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah. I think... Are there some new folks? New suits? Oh, there's new folks, yeah. We'll do some non-spoilers and non-spoilers. I think, and we've talked about this, but in the comic books, the pill to beat up superheroes is just pretty common. You can just kind of use it whenever. Actually, I didn't finish that comic. I kind of went off it. I prefer the show.
Starting point is 00:51:55 But you just kind of have it and then you can just basically... It's the Mortal Kombat. Not Mortal Kombat, it's the Injustice Pill, so Batman can fight Superman. Yeah, right. It's basically that. They're just, I mean, for a lot of the comic book, the boys are just superheroes in all but name and costume. They're just superhumanly strong and invincible and they have guns. That's right.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Fun stuff. But in this, they've got to use their brains more. They've got gonna think quick. They've got to forge alliances and they've got a blackmail. They've got to bug. They've got to bug. They've got to do it all. Yeah. So yeah, it opens with the trying to assassinate Victoria Newman because the guy who's- Hello Newman. The guy who's going to be president is aware and she's vice president is aware that
Starting point is 00:52:46 she's a superhero and he's like, well, if I become president, she'll just kill me and then she's the president and that's bad news. That's right. So, but then realizing that like it might not be super easy to kill this person and it just kind of goes from there. I feel like everybody kind of gets a fun little arc in this. These three episodes balance it really well. I love that A-Train is filming a blindside style movie. Right. Oh yes. Which deviates heavily from his own experience growing up.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And I won't spoil, but there's a fun cameo there where he's got a coach who's like trying to get him off the streets and all of that. Even though that wasn't his life at all. Yeah, like at all. Yeah. Black Noir's story is so Black Noir's back. She's like trying to get him off the streets and all of that even though that wasn't his life Black Noah's story is so black Noah's back a black Because if you recall Homelander did punch his heart out in the previous season. So yes. Yeah, uh-huh And he's them but this guy's a real theater kid Yeah, so he seems to have like pretty much the abilities of black Noah
Starting point is 00:53:42 But he's just constantly asking people what his motivation is and what he's supposed to do. And then like, you don't, you don't do anything. Yeah. Just stop talking. You're just quiet and stoic. I love, there's a joke where he goes, I don't understand it because like I moved into his living space and he's got a dojo, but he didn't know martial arts. So I don't even understand. Like he just would like burst people with his fists.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I loved all of that. Do we ever, we never found out who he was, did we? Because in the comic book, Black Noir is a clone of Homeland. Yeah. So, you know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think, yeah. He's just a guy, I guess.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Well, I was thinking about this yesterday. Did I dream this? Or is there an animated The Boys thing? There is. There's animated shorts. That's what I thought because there's diabolical. It's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Because there's one that's just it's Homeland is first mission and he and black noir team. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right. I didn't, I didn't just imagine that. It's real. You watched it. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah. Yeah. Well, speaking of first missions, also got Homelander son, uh, who's now teamed up with Homelander, they're bringing him as, I think all of that works. They're bringing up as like the new potential kind of superhero and successor to Homelander, who is aging. And still a jerk. And still not very good, is he?
Starting point is 00:54:54 And there's a lot of parallels to the modern day, but I'd hardly get into them here. No, Eric Kripke's just been like, yeah, it's Trump. Yeah, he's Trump now, yeah. And you don't have to watch it. Oh, if you don't want to. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you don't have to. It's true. I mean, it's it's always been very overt as political messages.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And I don't know. I feel like it's so on the nose. Like, I don't know how you could not. I feel this season is especially on the nose. Do you reckon it's more so? It feels like it's more leaning very heavily into I There's a new super who is very much like the government's putting vaccines in yeah, like I like an Alex Jones Yeah, sort of character. Yeah, like a Marjorie Taylor green Alex. Oh, yeah, right. Absolutely. Yeah Situation. Yeah
Starting point is 00:55:39 I like the idea though of the eight of an aging Homelander and I also, you see him a few times out of the suit. And I mean you have previously, but he's so in universe, he looks like a regularish man without the suit and they put muscles in his suit because he doesn't, it is to look a certain way but he doesn't need to work out. That's true. Yeah. So he doesn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. I saw one of those men's health videos with Anthony star who plays homeland. Yeah. And it was you know, what I eat in a day and my exercise and what have you. And I think it's predominantly to be lean. Yes. Because you need to be if you're getting put in a muscle suit, you need to be lean. Yeah. Because otherwise you you're coming out and lumps and bumps. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's just slimming it down. Yeah. Yeah. But it's I because his dad, soldier boy didn't't age true. Oh, but he was also frozen for a while But no he was he was experimented on by the Russians as well. Yeah, that's true. And and his mom was
Starting point is 00:56:34 Potentially that Nazi maybe oh there's that there was like that's hinted at okay. She's also ageless, right? It's interesting. So also the one who's the one who's his girlfriend. Yes might also be be his mom. I didn't pick up on that. I don't know whether it's actually true. She could have been lying about it. But but yeah. And also that I mean, this is also like he's not really blonde. They've been dying his hair. Right. Yeah. Whole time. Because they want him is like, is this all American dude? I just thought that was really interesting. Having insight into like just the just the aesthetics of him and how it's all fake. It's all like he's just the powers and everything else is all the images is not. How do you feel about the violence and the whatever and the etc.?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Look, there's an opening sequence where the boys attempt a kind of a covert mission to poison Veronica Newman's, like some of her, for medication, what have you, to kill her. And they go in with a couple of accomplices that are like Secret Service agents on their side. And as soon as those characters were introduced, I'm like, those are the two most expendable men I've ever seen on television. There is no way they're going to last this opening sequence. You don't think they're going to join the crew? They didn't.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Their heads were torn off. My first thought was, I don't know what's going to happen to these guys, but it's going to use the phrase to shreds. And it was. Their heads were torn to shreds. Yeah, absolutely. There's a multiple man punch up situation. There is, that's true.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Which I enjoyed quite a bit. Yeah. I don't know, maybe I'm desensitized to all the gore at this point. Maybe the opening sequence where we saw the previous two seasons worth of people being lasered and getting their heads blown off. I mean, thus far. I don't know if, well, see, that's the thing as well. Have the previous season started off with like a very overt kind of violent thing?
Starting point is 00:58:24 The previous season, I think, really ramped things up where a guy climbed inside another man's penis and then exploded. Yeah, right. So I think that's probably that was... That's probably the peak of it. The opening of this is not... Yeah, I mean, look, for a minor spoiler, if you haven't seen the season yet, but it opens with Victoria Newman's daughter spots the boys, you know, in their
Starting point is 00:58:47 covert mission and she her face comes open and she's she's she's been injected with V and she's a soup now. And so she's just got like, like acid tentacles, acid tentacles coming out of her face. Yeah. And I'm like, I did have a moment where I'm like, is this supposed to be shocking? Like, is this like, oh, it's because it's a little girl and she's a murderer or whatever. And I'm like, I don't feel anything. No, same. The most shocking part for me was the steam room scene. That was like a very unpleasant thing to look at and experience. But that's probably more of a spoiler. Should we do some spoilers? Let's do some spoilers. I look I really enjoyed it. I think, you know, it is a series where
Starting point is 00:59:25 I'm like, all the production values are on this are really good. They've clearly, you know, you know, this is, I don't know, it is a it is a cut above most Marvel television. Oh, definitely. I hate to say it at Disney television where it's, you know, they've, and they they're like, we got to get this right, I think. Yeah. And, and, and they're also not churning these. I mean, there's gen V, but they're not churning them out Yeah, all the time. You know that every shot looks good and the effects look good Yeah, you know I mean I guess the the fake movies they're making within it also look yes
Starting point is 00:59:59 They've taken a time and all the yeah, all the all the production design looks really good Yeah, yeah, and it you, everybody's got their own. I enjoy how everybody's got kind of is, you know, there's the there's the A plot and B plot and everybody's off on their own little adventures. And like the deeps always got a C plot. You know, it's not a C plot, S.E.A., but like a like a C plot. Where I don't know what if you realize what you did. No, I know exactly what I did. I'm clever.
Starting point is 01:00:24 But he's always got something going on. He's not really part of the main plot. Like sometimes somebody's using him for something else. But he's always got a beautiful himbo. Yeah, absolutely. But he's also the worst. Yeah, Chase Crawford is always working hard in his small plot in the background. And maybe he'll coalesce into a big thing at the end.
Starting point is 01:00:43 But I just, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. in his small plot in the background. And maybe he'll coalesce into a big thing at the end, but I just, you know. He's always got a fake marriage or he's in rehab or, you know. A weird sex thing. A weird sex thing, yeah, sure. Absolutely. I'm best series ever. I agree.
Starting point is 01:00:56 It remains. Good fun. It remains. Again, glad it's wrapping up at five. So there's a few new heroes. Spoilers. There's Sister Sage. Spoilers, it's time to spoil.
Starting point is 01:01:04 That's right. It's Sister Sage. Spoilers, it's time to spoil. That's right. It's Sister Sage and Firecracker. Sister Sage is the smartest person in the world, but is off doing it. Allegedly. Allegedly, yeah, exactly. She's, you know. It's one of those things where it's like, is that true? Yeah, well, Homelander needs new recruits for the seven because they're down to like
Starting point is 01:01:18 four. Yeah. Because he killed Black Noir and others. And Starlight left. And Starlight left. And Bave left. And yeah, yeah. Yeah. So he recruits Sister Sage because he needs someone who isn't just a yes man,
Starting point is 01:01:30 because everybody else fears being, you know, lasered through the head. Yeah. Which he'll do. Which is, yeah. And she's running the risk all the time, but she's clearly crunched the numbers and she's like, you won't kill me. But he might. He might.
Starting point is 01:01:42 He might. There's a few moments where it's like, he doesn't like this very much, does he? That's right. Yeah. And he wants her... She's a really interesting character though. She's bad. You'd think being someone that smart, you wouldn't just do this, right?
Starting point is 01:01:56 I wouldn't think so. Yeah. But maybe, I don't know. We don't know what the answer is. Maybe she's got her own agenda. Maybe she does. I mean, it just seems like she does, yeah. Is she durable in any sense?
Starting point is 01:02:04 It's not really hinted at. It doesn't seem that way. No, I mean, there's a she does. Yeah. Is she durable in any sense? It's not really seen that way No, I mean, there's a moment where where um, we're Frenchie and Marvin Milk. Yeah They're talking about her and they're like, did she does she have any strength or anything like that? I think all soups seem to be durable in some ways like they can all take a punch. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know Maybe yeah. Yeah, just smarts. It seems just smart Oh, and yeah, she she's been brought in. Homelander wants a legacy to leave to his kid because he's getting old, he's getting gray,
Starting point is 01:02:30 and he wants, and he really hates humanity now and he wants to leave his son in charge, basically. Yeah. And so... But does he really? No, I don't think he does. Yeah. Do you... Just wants an extension of himself and to live forever also. Do you think really? No, I don't think he does. Yeah. I do.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Just wants an extension of himself and to live forever. Do you think he, well, here's the thing. There's a moment where he's like, I want to, I think we should do so much stuff together. So it's like we merge into one person. Yeah. Is that foreshadowing that he wants to put his brain in his kid's body? Maybe. I think it might be.
Starting point is 01:02:59 It's possible. Absolutely. I'm doing an Emperor Palpatine style, the rise of Skywalker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Force dyad. It wouldn't shock me Yeah, and do you think this will add do you think this maybe this season or the start of next season will end with? Homelander as president or maybe I mean it's because he's bought now was completely superheroes. It's run entirely by superheroes pushed out the CEO or Reminds me a couple of weeks ago. you mentioned Giancarlo Esposito was going to
Starting point is 01:03:26 be getting a role in Marvel. And you were like, he's going to be Jake Fury. I've not heard that repeated anywhere else. I saw it somewhere. It was a speculation I saw on Comic Book Movie.com. Okay, right. Yeah, no, that was a speculative thing. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah, well, he's out. Yeah. Did he die? Can't remember. Or did he just walk away? Oh, I don't know. Yeah Probably got lasered. Odds are he got lasered. But yeah Vought is now Yeah, completely entirely run by Homelander it seems. I mean, yeah, it does seem to be moving towards that and he's doing rallies and starting riots and yes
Starting point is 01:03:59 Absolutely all that kind of stuff. Jeffrey Dean Morgan's also in this. He's another Kripke favorite, isn't he? He is, isn't he? That multiple man guy's a Kripke favorite as well. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, Jeffrey Dean Morgan is, so what's his deal in this? He wants Ryan, basically. Yeah, he wants to turn Homelander slash Butcher's son into a CIA asset.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah. Turn him around because he's potentially stronger than Homelander. So if he grows to adulthood under the tutelage of Homelander, he'll become probably the world's greatest murderer. Yeah, but it's very clearly not going that way. Yeah, I think that the butcher and Ryan stuff is good as well. They have a few moments together.
Starting point is 01:04:41 There's a moment, oh, butcher can bake by the way. Yeah, he's doing quite well. He wasn't struggling at all. He was having a great time. He's flying through that. Yeah, all right. I liked all of that. Hughie's mama's in this as well.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah. They also acknowledge that- Played by Rosemary DeWitt. What's she from again? Stand Off. Well there you go. The TV series Stand Off. Stand Off it is.
Starting point is 01:04:59 With Berger from Sex and the City. Berger? It's interesting they finally acknowledge that Hughie is tall. Oh yeah, right. So like he's 6'3", all right? Like his homeland is not. He's maybe 5'10", maybe? Right, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Yeah, I thought that was interesting. Another thing I really liked about this is that pretty much all the saves that you see the superheroes do are lies. Yeah, absolutely. None of them are real, because they set up Ryan for his first save and it's all very carefully choreographed and they're doing it in public and and and and I just think that's and a trains also talking about a Previous terrorist plot that he's thwarted. Yeah, yeah, that was like that didn't happen. That's right. It's not a that's not a real thing Oh, I train story and this is interesting. Actually, I'm James Rosemary to wit is married to Ron Livingston That's not a real thing. Ah-ha. Ah-ha. Ah-ha. Ah-ha. Ah-ha. Ah-ha. Ah-ha. Ah-ha.
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Starting point is 01:06:06 Oh, OK. So even louder than Harvey milk. Even louder than Harvey milk. That's the tagline. This dude's even louder than Harvey milk. You wouldn't believe it. But yeah, I like all of that, that the whole like even the they don't do it. They just don't do anything good. Right. Yeah. Like at all. You know, like it's just
Starting point is 01:06:26 in. And when they are in a situation where they have to do something, they always bungle it. They always like laser someone in half or kill a child. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something terrible happens. Okay. We were talking about this before the show. There's a penis situation in this, right? Yeah. There's a moment where there's a butthole situation also. There's a penis situation in this, right? Yeah. There's a moment where the multiple- There's a butthole situation also. There's also that, yeah. There's a moment where the multiple man-man multiplies multiple times. And he is, we didn't mention Firecracker is the new kind of- Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:55 She is the Alex Jones, the Marjorie Taylor Greene. She's the- She's the personal beef with Starlight also. She's the one spreading all the conspiracy theories about all teachers are groomers and all this and there's secret bases under the Starlight Foundation and causing people's brains to melt, etc. So her assistant set up guy is like a multiple man type person. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And so if you- But when he splits him another person, the clothes don't go with him. No, he's a nude man. He's a nude man. He's a nude man. So he has a big nude fight among another thing in a sauna. But so they're all nude, right? It's all him. And I've read this somewhere else and I can't remember the article, but it's basically that
Starting point is 01:07:37 most penises you see on TV are fake. Are fake. So he'd be wearing some sort of nude underpants and then they get a fake penis and they glue it on. And I think it's for continuity. Because if you're filming all day, you don't know what you're going to see. That's so true. Yeah, that's right. So you don't know this for sure. You just reckon. I think it's part of it. Yeah. Also, do you really want to stand around nude all day?
Starting point is 01:08:02 You get cold. You get cold. I mean, you know. Yeah. I'm looking at the Wikipedia page, and it's got all the various characters, but it doesn't have Giancarlo Esposito in there. So I don't know what happened to that guy. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:08:13 OK. You'd think because he was the CEO for like two seasons. Yeah. It'll just say he got his head lasered off. Play Stan Edgar? Stan Edgar, sure. Status, alive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Board officially announced that it would be serving its title season three. It starts with Stan Edgar. Stan Edgar, sure. Status, alive. Yeah, Vought officially announced that it would be serving its title this season 3. It starts with Stan Edgar supposedly appalled by his actions and praising Homeland for his bravery. Vought also announced that it would be conducting a thorough investigation into his actions of whatever the thing is that he did or might not have done. Yeah. Kind of a waste then, I feel, right? No, he might come back.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah. Do you think Carlos Pizeto should get more goofy roles? Yeah, because he can. He seems like a real laid back dude in come back. Yeah. Chocolatus Bazzetta should get more goofy roles. Yeah, because he seems like a real laid back dude in real life. Like he's always, like you see him in interviews and he's fun and he's cool and whatever and then they're like, what if you played a really stoic sinister man? I guess. Every time. Yeah, every time. I mean, it's work, you know, work's work.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Oh yeah. You know? Absolutely. A few things that I enjoyed, Mason. There's a Mortal Kombat slash Injustice style game. There is, yeah. Absolutely. A few things that I enjoyed, Mason. There's a Mortal Kombat slash Injustice style game. There is, yeah. Which is a lot of fun. It's Lamplighter who was one of the Ashmoors from previous seasons. One of the Ashmoors, that's correct.
Starting point is 01:09:15 And who was the other character? I can't remember. Someone from the 70s. Yeah, she's like a retired hero. She's in The Walking Dead as well. Yeah. There's a war on Christmas musical on ice. That's in The Walking Dead as well. Yeah. There's a war on Christmas musical on ice, which turns into a bloodbath. That was a moment where Huey's trying to escape and Homelander's trying to... Huey wants to...
Starting point is 01:09:36 The boys need to get a bug in a... Sorry, Victoria Newman's visiting the new Vought on Ice. Yep. Spectacular. And the boys know, and they want to get in there and bug her meetings. And not like bug her, not like mess around. No, that's so true. But Homelander shows up as well. And so of course, he gets wind of the boys being there. And he's like, I'm going to laser everybody.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Homelander's got super smell as well. He's got super smell. I don't think I knew that prior. But you'd think that he would be able to catch him. Instantly. I mean, I know like a train like rescued Huey, but Huey's just like walk always Simon Pegg, who's Huey's dad is in hospital. Something happens to him. And do you think he's really there? Or do you think it's the CGI? I think they filmed a few, a few like, like, I think you'll be in it. I think you'll wake up, right? I think they filmed him a few times, probably over a few days. And they just cut to it every
Starting point is 01:10:26 now and then to make sure you know what Simon picked. But then he's just like going to the hospital and walking about, because it's homeland as we've seen from previous seasons, he'd often fly over the city and he would just keep doing laps until he finds who he's looking for. So like if I was Huey, I just wouldn't be out and about. He'd be in a lead box at the bottom of the ocean. That's exactly right. Speaking of, I think about this all the time, but isn't it wild that you're Simon Pegg and
Starting point is 01:10:52 you get a role in this show because in the original comic book, Huey's look was based on you. Yeah. So when they made the show and Simon Pegg aged out of the role, I guess, or they didn't want, you know, they wanted, or he was busy or, you know, they just wanted to recast. They just went, well, we better get Simon Pegg in this for some reason. We have to. And then you just get a call and you're like, do you want to show up and get paid to be
Starting point is 01:11:17 in a couple of scenes on the show? We'll fly you over wherever you want to fly here and do the show. Do a couple of days. Crazy. It is crazy. Do you... It's... Hugh Hew is Scottish, isn't he? In the comic.
Starting point is 01:11:30 He's Wee Hughie. I think he is Scottish. Yeah, I might be wrong. Yeah. And butchers. He's British. Yeah, he's British. Don't you forget it.
Starting point is 01:11:36 I know from his British accent. Don't forget it. I know it's because he's British. But don't forget it. I won't forget it. Yeah. I enjoyed... There's a moment where the Deep is eating a Bloomin' Onion.
Starting point is 01:11:46 And then it's got like sauce and he's licking his fingers, but he's got gloves on. I'm just like, I hate that. I hate that. Amazon gives you little pieces of trivia. Yeah. And it said that's an actual Bloomin' Onion. They went to Outback Steakhouse and they got it. On the day.
Starting point is 01:11:59 It was a... Do you think it was a product placement also? I mean, do Amazon even needs to do. I don't think they just want to go. Yeah, yeah. I've also written here, yeah, they acknowledge it here as tall. But so what do you think's going on? There's a moment where I think I have a theory on this, but please, I want you to say the wrong theory and then I'll say the right theory.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Although what you're going to say is the vaudean ice bloodbath. Oh, yeah. It just it just descends into chaos. Jesus is cutting throats. Yeah, it became immediately like a Monty Python kind of sketch where everybody's cutting everybody's fingers off and kicking ice skates into people's throats and etc. I think they were like, we haven't had a bloodbath yet. No, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Are those vents lead lined? Must be. They must be. They must be. They must be. Yeah. So his sister said she's on the couch. She's eating a Bloomin' Onion and watching trash television and vegging out. She's the smartest person in the world. That's right. And then the deep comes in and then they get together. They hook it up, Mason,
Starting point is 01:12:59 as they say. Oh yeah, okay. They've got the riz for each other. Oh, that's not what they're... And bad respect. No, I don't like any of this, but all right. Yep. Go ahead. And then you see on the table, there's like a stick. Oh.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Like it's got a bunch of blood and goop on it. My guess would be that Sister Sage killed the Deep's girlfriend, the octopus, played by Tilda Swinton. Is it really? Yeah, it's Tilda Swinton. That's Tilda Swinton. It's the voice of Tilda Swinton. That's Tilda Swinton. The voice of Tilda Swinton.
Starting point is 01:13:25 That's great stuff. I think she has a regenerative brain and as she swizzles her brain at the end of the day. Oh, to make herself dumber. To make herself, that's fun. Okay. That's a great idea. And switching off. I'm glad you let me say my dumb theory.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Because I guess it wouldn't make sense to kill his octopus girlfriend. Yeah. Because that wouldn't bring him on site. But she wants him on site for some reason. Yeah. But I feel like she's going to like come out of this and then be like, obviously not this guy because he wants to watch Transformers 2. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Right. You're absolutely right. You know, it's switching your brain off. That's a great theory. That's fun. I don't know whether that's true. No, I think you're absolutely right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:01 We talked about the penis already. And when I talk to the people in real life about the boys this week. I'm gonna claim that as my own before this episode comes out Yeah, you should yeah. Yeah, and even after cuz nobody I know in real life listens to this No, you shouldn't you shouldn't um any theories on where this is gonna go Mason I think I reckon it is probably how president's home. I think it's homelander for president Yeah, I think the because so. Some Gen V cameos. Yeah. So Homelander and Firecracker, they have a meeting with Victoria Newman and they their
Starting point is 01:14:32 plan is as as architected by by Sister Sage is you get Victoria Newman in as vice president, the president is killed in an accident because you can't kill him. Yeah, because they would just know it's an assassination. They get him killed in some sort of accident. And she becomes the president and she comes out as a soup. And then they dismantle the Department of Superhuman Affairs and they make all these changes that work for them. And then they, you know, because one of one of her opponents is like, we've got to make
Starting point is 01:15:01 soup. We're going to take superheroes out of government and out of law enforcement and out of everything. We've got to make him put them back in the, you know, the movies or whatever. And so I think she's, she might push through and, and maybe even become the president, make all these laws and then Homelander runs against her. Like maybe we have a little time jump. And then it's like, well now, well, oh, it's a, it's legal now for me to run for president. Well, now I'm going to kind of thing. And then he is, he goes on a platform of like, he's the people's like, well now, oh, it's legal now for me to run for president. Well, now I'm going to kind of thing. And then he goes on a platform of like, he's the people's champion.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Even though he hates everybody and he wants to murder literally everybody who exists. Who could that be a parallel of Mason? Barely even exaggerated. You, a man who hates his audience. No Mason, I love all that. I don't love him. I don't know. I like most of our listeners.
Starting point is 01:15:44 That's great. And he means you the one that's listening right now. Look, some people consider their listeners family. I don't. Interesting. I don't consider that. Okay. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I've got mad respect for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I reckon maybe that maybe season five is is I reckon they might do jump to season five. He's just the president I think they need to do a time job because Ryan is aging so you do you do Homelander is the president and his son is becoming the most powerful yeah soup in the world yeah powerful soup very powerful soup would you consider powerful but have to be hot yeah like a spicy soup or like...
Starting point is 01:16:25 No, like hot, hot, like not a gazpacho. That's not a world ending soup, is it? No. No, it's got to be hearty as well. Okay, you got some chunks in it. Like a veggie, like maybe a shank soup. Like it's got like a shank veggie. Yeah, okay, right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Maybe a pumpkin with a lot of cheese, grated cheese. Oh, that's not bad. That's a hearty soup. Also, you'd probably do do a bread with that a crusty bread. That's true He's dipping folks. I'm doing a dip dipping motion a powerful dip. That's true Ah, yeah, so and so then you sort of have like the political family together, you know, and then I don't know He's home landed dying as well. Do you think I think just getting up. I think he's just mid 40s. Okay, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Because there's a moment where he's, you know, he's had a day and he's just kind of, and his son won't talk to him or whatever and he's just like, he's holding his head in his hands. Do you think that's just in his 40s? I think it's just in his 40s and a man who doesn't love anybody or anything, including himself. That's what I, and he's never gone to therapy and he's got everything he's ever wanted. And then, so the the CIA I think or the
Starting point is 01:17:26 The government at large they're creating a virus that is ideally gonna. Oh, yeah, we saw that in Gen V Yeah, so so that but it's not powerful enough to kill him yet. Yeah, so I don't know Also, we haven't seen a return of soldier boy yet No, a few options and I think it's either I don't think I think that would be more of a season five. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think we could see him or they'll at least I've been they've already talked about because he has you know He has the ability now to remove anybody's superpowers. Yeah, seemingly equally strong to homeland and may yeah, right Maybe just a little bit. I don't know if you can bring him back to to defeat home No, I don't think that will be like the... Because they already did a season about that.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Yeah. So, I mean, look, I... Also, some people have suggested maybe the final season is Butcher is the bad guy somehow. But I don't know if we're going to lean towards that. I'm very... Look, if I can imagine the final scene of this show, it is Homelander loses his powers and everybody beats him up. You know?
Starting point is 01:18:23 With a crowbar. Yeah. That crowbar is head off. I think that's probably very on brand for the comic. Yeah I don't think like I doubt they're gonna go with everybody repowers up with temporary V Yeah, you know, there's a big pitch superhero battle I think it ends with him going to laser them and realize he's lost his powers and it'll probably end with like a very gory head Stomp or absolutely. Yeah. Yeah Do you think butcher will die? Yes, mmm, cuz but not in this season. No, I mean, where else they're gonna go with that
Starting point is 01:18:51 Yeah, you know nobody in this universe has but but you will kill Homelander, right? I think so. Yeah Oh, yeah. Yeah Mmm, or Huey kills him. I don't know Huey's kind of I mean at his thing with a train cuz a train killed his girlfriend But that's kind of... We haven't really even discussed that. We've got A-Train as he's... He's a mole. He's having... He's questioning his role in everything and he's giving information to the boys. So when's he gonna die? Or is he gonna die? Yeah, he will. I don't think he'll make it out. I think there's a bunch of people that aren't gonna make it out. They haven't killed somebody major in a while, I feel.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Oh, so somebody's gotta go, yeah. Yeah. Maybe Frenchy. Maybe Belvin Hielk. Major in a while. I feel so somebody's gotta go. Yeah. Yeah, maybe Frenchie Maybe milk maybe oh, I hate that. Hmm, maybe Kimiko. She's kind of invincible But she seems that would be I guess the kind of well That's the thing cuz she seems even more invincible than she was Yeah in previous seasons in this at the start of this season. She loses an arm and it grows back with it Starts growing back immediately. Yeah, I didn't know I thought there was gonna be a long reveal where like you think she's crippled for life, but then later in the episode she's growing the arm back or whatever, but it's like no
Starting point is 01:19:50 seconds later. Also her sister's in this or something it seems. Or somebody she knows from childhood. But is that a fake out if you like, well she's more invincible than ever before. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. Tricky, isn't it? I like the relationship she has with Frenchy as well. Me too. They're a fun little pair. He's got his own situation going on. That's what I mean. Yeah, tricky, isn't it? Yeah, I like the relationship she has with Frenchie as well.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Me too. They're a fun little pair. He's got his own situation going on. That's true. With his family or whatever. All right. Anyway, let us know, I guess, what you think if you want to. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And we'll come back at the end and we'll do a big recap review. That's right, yes. All righty. Should we move it along? Let's move it along. What are we going to talk about? I'm always stuck with things to do. What we're reading.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Yeah. And what are we going to read? Actually, we've built the structure of this show, so we always have something to jump to. That's correct. Because some podcasts, they just spin their wheels until it just sputters out, but not us. Not us. We keep it going, we keep it going, then one of us slips up and then it's like, drrrring, cut! I can't bloody work like this! All the walls move, you know. Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:42 We're dressed as Errol Flynn. We're both dressed as Errol Flynn. I'm doing realist. So you're a realist. Do you think that's the lyrics of that song? Yeah. Okay. Do you not think that's the lyrics? Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:04 This song I know better than any song in the world. You're not going to question me on this song of all songs. Yeah. Okay. You not think that's the lyrics? Okay. This song I know better than any song in the world. You're not going to question me on this song of all songs. You're not going to question me. Iggy Azalea comes out on stage every night when she does a gig and she goes, first things first, I'm a realist. Get a good job, get an education and get secure. And then if you want to do some, you know, maybe do some artistic things on the side and you can, you know, yeah, exactly. Just be like me, be a realist. It's a beautiful lesson. That's true. As mentioned, my wife, Claire Tonti is away. That's right. She's on tour again in the UK. There's a bunch of shows. If you go to claretonti.com slash events, you can check it out. A bunch of these are already sold out. Did she get claretonti.com? Yeah. Wow, good for her. I know, I should have
Starting point is 01:21:42 got it. Let's sold it to her. So yeah, she's in Dublin at the moment. By the time you hear this, that will be she'll be out of there. She'll be to be chased out of town. Yeah, torches and pitchforks. But if you're in the UK and you're just in going along, there's a there's something in Abercrombie. There's another thing in another place. I don't yeah, last year, like I, you know, there was like a big push or whatever to like, here's the numbers now. I don't have to, you year like I've you know, there was like a big push or whatever to but like here's the numbers now I don't have to you know, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think you even have to name the the places I reckon if you're anywhere within 5,000 miles. Yeah, you should simply buy tickets and go exactly
Starting point is 01:22:16 I don't live near there. Yeah, you don't need to that's right. Yeah, love all of that Yeah, look, I haven't watched a darn thing or read a darn thing Oh, yeah, but I so I'm just looking at my list of stuff that I've got to get through. Yeah. Before. Okay. You know, the end time. For what?
Starting point is 01:22:32 But, but uh. You've got Sin City 2 at the top of your list. That's true, that's true. But number two, have you sent in any of The Sympathizer? Which one's that? Which is the Park Chan Wook series. It's a mini series. It's got Robert Downey Jr. in it.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Oh yeah. Playing a bunch of roles. People are talking about that. It looked cool. People either love Robert Downey Jr. in that or he's really distracting. Interesting. Yeah. Because he plays 19 people. Yeah he plays different people. Different prostate. I guess my assumption was that he was playing an FBI guy or CIA guy in different wings. But he's different people. He's a different man. Yeah. But people
Starting point is 01:23:01 like that. He's a Robert different man. Let me know if that's a good show and first entertaining show We're both realists here. We want a real Something yeah, but I find what is the actual lyrics to that first things first. I'm the realest realest. Oh No, it's different the different words No, okay. So I yeah, I've been pretty busy. We watched the movie kick-ass to talk about a caravan of garbage I went to watch kick-ass to I was I watched kick-ass on Amazon Prime. Yeah, and I'm like, oh just one kick-ass I'll watch a little bit of kick-ass to just kick-ass one again But well on Amazon you just click it and it's just kick-ass one again
Starting point is 01:23:36 You already saw that one and I'm like, wow this this starts quite the same Yeah, this is is this a is this a clever callback to like what's this looks like? It's starting the same but then it's a little it. No, It's just kick-ass one again. I don't know what's happening It's not I don't know apparently they like if you ever notice if you go on Amazon Prime There's just a lot of garbage on it. Yeah, really anybody can upload on there Oh really like it's like YouTube kind of like a YouTube kind of situation So a lot of people are like oh my they're uploading stuff. They don't have the copyright for and do that. Yeah Yeah, yeah, somebody pointed out that this is a version of 12 angry men on there They're uploading stuff they don't have the copyright for. We should do that. Yeah. I know I won't.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody pointed out that there's a version of 12 Angry Men on there, but they've done an AI thumbnail, so there's like 19 computer-generated men in the thumbnail for 12 Angry Men. 12 AI-generated men? What would that look like? I mean, that thumbnail. Yeah. I mean, if it's men in the 60s, the same.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I watched episode three of The Acolyte, which I didn't mind because it delved into a bit of the past. I'm not going to spoil it. Okay. After last week I'm like, I'm really interested in this. I'm definitely going to catch up. I haven't caught up yet. It's like, oh, the Jedi are bad.
Starting point is 01:24:38 And if anybody else is like, we want to use the Force, they're like, no, can't do it. Also there's a Wookie with a partially shaved head, which is very unpleasant What I have because of an accident or they just think oh, it's like a top-notch situation I don't know why they're a Jedi. Yeah, it sucks. Whoa, don't do that. So I'm reading I ordered this Maybe even from his website. It's got a prop folks. It's got it's a book called replay memoir of an uprooted family It's by Jordan Mechner. Okay, so it's not about video games No, it is kind of about oh that I'm back interested again Jordan Mechner's about doom No, it's about doom the dark about in any way Mason. It's about Jordan Mechner
Starting point is 01:25:15 Do you know for sure if there's any mentions of doom? I don't know that for sure. I'm not all the way through it It's got an index. I have a look Don't get your greasy hands too much on it. Mason. Too late. That's worth a lot of money. Too late. So Jordan Mechner created the original Prince of Persia. And then of course he worked on Prince of Persia 2, took a fair bit of a break, came back for the sands of time. And he's not just a video game dude.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Let me tell you this, James. You handed this to me as if it were a book. It isn't a book. I didn't hand it to you like anything. You handed it to me as if, you handed it to me with a delicate hand of a man who's handing another man a book, with mad respect. I just have delicate hands.
Starting point is 01:25:55 And it's not a book, it's a graphic novel. I didn't say it wasn't a graphic novel. He didn't say it was though. So it's basically a look at, it basically runs in three timelines. It's his family escaping the Nazis in World War II and trying to make their way to the US. It's him developing Prince of Persia in the 80s
Starting point is 01:26:14 and up from there. And it's also him from like 2015. He's on a new Prince of Persia project and he's kind of a relationship, he's kind of on the rocks and he's got adult kids. And so it explores that Yeah, right those three time periods. It's really interesting I mean, I love like the story behind Prince of Persia
Starting point is 01:26:31 Like I love watching interviews of him talking about how he made it and all that and this delves into all of that Like he rotoscoped his brother doing all that I was gonna say is there any rotoscoping so much of rotoscoping in this Mason All right. Um, yeah I just find him a really fascinating individual and like as a creative person, like his process and his doubts and the fact that he even put this together is also like this historical document of not only his life, but his family and his father and grandparents. I really like it. So it's called replay memoir of an uprooted family.
Starting point is 01:26:59 There's shades of mouse in it, I guess. Okay. Mouse is about escaping the Nazis. That's true. But I would say that's really- Did anybody in Mouse then go to create Prince of Persia? I don't think so. in it, I guess. Okay. Mouse is about escaping the Nazis. But I would say that's really anybody in mouse then go to create Prince of Persia. Maybe they create Conker's bad for a day they made mouse of Persia, which is it's that's the union version of Prince
Starting point is 01:27:16 of Mouse. Yeah, no. Interesting. Did I start? I did a little bit. Yeah. Sometimes you have in your life many times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not really like Mouse. I guess it's just I guess if there was a comparison, it's sort of that. But no, not really because also Mouse is very grim. It is true. But anyway, I would say check it out. Oh, well. If you are a fan or a passing fan, you can borrow this after I read it.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Interesting. I hate it when you get a hardcover and it gives that the covers on it and then it arrives and it's already a bit frayed at the top. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't wanna give me a fresh one? Where have I got this from? It's probably the poster. You a fresh one.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Don't give me a fresh one, I'll give you a fresh one and it won't be with mad respect. I'll tell you that much. Wow, okay, slap fight later, folks. Okay. Should we move it along? I think we should move it along to the letters section. Here it is. Here's the theme to letters Yeah, man, we love doing some letters don't we love doing letters I tell you that much What do you like about letters? I love reading the letters. I love choosing a letter. I love presenting the letter to you, the
Starting point is 01:28:28 listener. Where do you get your letters from? My letter box. Yeah but like how? I don't tell the listeners where my letter box is so they can send a letter in the form of an email to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Or they might want to send a tweet to hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter. That's correct. We'll see. Don't even worry about it. Here's an email from Jeremy. Jeremy? Hi, James and myself.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Jeremy's. Jeremy. Hold it here. Here now. First things first. Jeremy's a realist. That's right. That Pearl Jam Iggy Azalea mashup we've always wanted.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Absolutely. And we've done it. And we've done it finally. You thought we could only do that with the. Absolutely. And we've done it. And we've done it finally. You thought we could only do that with the magic of AI, but James did it. I did it already. That's right.
Starting point is 01:29:09 I actually did it before the show. Anyway, Jeremy says, I'm a relatively new listener since finding and bridging every caravan of garbage on YouTube and have since subscribed to Big Sandwich. Sick. That's a lot of content. By the way, we did a book club on Old Man Logan, which is going out this week. And next week will be, we did a let's play on the X-Men arcade game, which I finally got working.
Starting point is 01:29:28 That's right. About 10 minutes before we recorded it. It was a miracle. And it worked somehow. It was a Christmas miracle. Jeremy says, I just thought you might be interested to know that your movie commentaries, specifically Multiverse of Madness, which I worked on,
Starting point is 01:29:40 and most recently the Star Wars prequels, have been my audio inspiration when I've really had to crunch through a hard deadline during my storyboarding work on the new MCU Fantastic Four movie." Oh, tell us more about that! Yeah! He says, I find the cadence of your conversation while the movie plays quietly in the background to be quite good for my productivity.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Sick. So when you eventually see the new FF film, you can claim a tiny piece of it for your own. Cheers! Tell us the whole story now. Piers, I'm dying to find out what you think of Deadpool and Wolverine, pretty much a dream gig for me. Oh wow.
Starting point is 01:30:08 There you go, good work Jeremy. I'm excited for that. I mean it's very exciting just the fact that the MC still has storyboarders. Yeah, I know. And it's not just a picture of some executives pointing at the director going, we'll do it later. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:21 We'll do it later. That's super cool. Now I imagine Jeremy's under all sorts of NDAs and so forth, so we won't ask him to send us all his storyboards for the Fantastic Four movie. And the costume. I want the things costume. If you can find, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean we would never ask you to go-
Starting point is 01:30:39 I want the one from the- Find a pretense. Find a pretense to go to the set and be like- Yeah. Find a pretense to go to the set and be like, we never suggest to you, we need you to storyboard a scene where the new Fantastic Four go into the previous Fantastic Four dimension and they steal the things old underpants. So they have to be on set and then you figure out a pretense to go on the set. Oh, I need to do some storyboarding.
Starting point is 01:31:01 You come in hurried and you're like, the boss told me I need the things underpants. Exactly. And then you take the things underpants and then you send us the things underpants. We'd never ask you to do that. No. But we're assuming you're doing it. You have to do it. You have to do that. This is from man to man, it's always wonderful on the X, that's what I call Twitter.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Nice. Hashtag weeklypantapod, ahoy and Heidi home mates. If you were given $500 right now to spend on anything at all that you would like, what would you spend it on or buy? I have mine, I'm ready. Oh, that's interesting. Well, you go first then. Foosball table. I think I'm gonna get one.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Is that what they cost? I've been talking about, I don't know. I've been talking about arcade cabinets. I guess a foosball table is like whatever you're willing to pay. Exactly. A foosball table seems like one of those things where if you can take it, they'll let you have it. pay. Exactly. If you it's the foosball table seems like one of those things where if you can take it,
Starting point is 01:31:46 they'll let you have it. Yep. Check Facebook marketplace if there's a foosball table. Yeah, they're like I'm seeing some. Are you saying that because. They're well, a lot of these are well under 500. Are you saying that Butcher and Ryan play a game of foosball in The Boys? Look, I was thinking about, you know, because we've got the studio space.
Starting point is 01:32:00 We've got this room that we record in and next to it, there's like a bigger space. Yeah. And there's nothing in it. I've never done anything with it. It just basically stores things that I'm not currently using. Whatever. There's a bunch of lamps that Claire had for something. And I just, I would like to turn it into something, but I don't want a row of arcades when I do.
Starting point is 01:32:19 They shouldn't. And I think foosball, so this is before The Boys even, I was like, I think my kids would love it as well. They would like it. Yeah. And not a mini one. At least one of them would need a little chair I think. Yeah, one of them would need a little chair. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Yeah, you, buddy, got him. To sit down, because you're so old. Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. And I'd sub in your other kid to play for, like, I, I, I nominate a champion. That's you. And you can play and I'll be on my phone. Thank you. Oh, 500 bucks. Yeah, just because that's the thing as well. Like it's it. You got a PS five. Put it towards that.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Oh, yeah, I don't know if it's fine. That's putting it towards that doesn't that's not, you know, what, just, you know, I would I would go to one of those restaurants that like a, like one of the, like a, cause like, cause like, they're all five or 500. Like so, so money, like money wise, money is no object. Yeah. In this case it's $500. It's $500. But like, if somebody was like, like, Hey, do you want to go to this restaurant? It's $500.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I'd be like, that's an awful lot of money. Somebody's like, he is $500 and you've got to spend it now. What if I went to a fancy, like a seafood restaurant, like a lobster dinner. Aren't you on a seafood diet, Mason? Yes. I eat exclusively seafood. Very good. We got one of those like years ago, I think it was like a wedding gift or something. And I went to one of those fancy ones and it was up in a tower. And I do like a good restaurant, but this was like too far. And I didn't like it. It was a lot of like, they'd bring out a thing and then they're like, okay, so we
Starting point is 01:33:47 got you the special take cost $90 or whatever. Yeah. And they're like, but you got to let it sit for exactly one minute and 30 seconds. It's like, what are you doing? See, that's the thing. Cause I don't want the, the, the absolute last thing I want in the world ever is for anybody to make a fuss over me. That's what it felt like.
Starting point is 01:34:03 So what I want is I want a restaurant where it's like expensive stuff But they just and seafood is that because it's just like a you go down. It's just like here's a lobster Yeah, it's a lobster and a bib and a and a thing to crack the claws open Yeah, and I'm like yeah, and it's like he is like he's an entire container of butter Yeah, and you just dump the butter on and then you just eat a long stuff you go yum yum yum And you put the butter container on your head like a hat. Exactly. A greasy hat. That's exactly right. That's what I would do, I think. Yeah. I don't know if there'd be any change left over because these restaurants like there's a few like in Melbourne
Starting point is 01:34:35 and they're so expensive. Yeah. They're like you want to buy a gift certificate? These gift certificates are 50% off. I feel like the people who go there it's just exclusively gift certificates. Yeah, no exactly. Because I think the food isn't good enough to like to be like, yeah, I'll just pop that's what I'm talking about Yeah Yeah the one that we went to was like they start off with like really buttery bread and Then it went from there and everything was so buttery We got to like course three or four and there was like a nine and the guy was like we're just getting started and I was
Starting point is 01:35:00 like Unleaving yeah, I was and then I on the way out is like do you want to tour and I'm like, I'm leaving. I was like, and then on the way out, he's like, do you want to tour? And I'm like, not really. But like, we did it and the guy's like, this chair. It's like kangaroos. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I want to like, I hate this. One of the courses was looking at a chair.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Wow. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. Like I would, I don't think I would ever spend that amount of money on like dinner. But if it was like, well, you got to spend this now. Yeah. Be like, all right.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Fair enough. I'm going to bloody. because I do lobster and then I do like a second love oh my god I would do lobster and then I would do like popcorn shrimp and I would do all sorts of stuff you do a rock lobster some people don't like that sort of seafood or they're allergic and I say I pity you just get over it just get over your allergy yeah Yeah, it's easy. To seafood. Just keep eating it. What else you got, Mase? Get an EpiPen ready. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Uh, ooh, James. Speaking of the thing you said. Jordan Mekna. This from Alex. Prince of Persia remake coming. Yes! Hi James and Mase-o. James will be pleased to hear that Ubisoft announced the video game remake of Prince
Starting point is 01:35:58 of Persia The Sands of Time. You knew that. I did. This got me wondering what video game franchise do you wish would be brought back? Uh, Alex says, my wish would be brought back? Alex says, my choice would be the Star Fox or Bomberman. I would love to see another Star Fox or Star Wing, as it was known in Australia. Or Lilac Wars on the Nintendo 64 for some reason.
Starting point is 01:36:15 That's right. Oh, that would be a Star Fox game in fucking forever. That's true, yeah. I want a Donkey Kong 3D style Mario game. Right, okay, yep. You know, like Donkey Kong 64, like Super Mario Wonder, not Wonder. Whatever that big environment one was. Yeah, I mean a lot of my remake wishes have come true because there was a new Monkey Island
Starting point is 01:36:34 game which I played and I enjoyed. Had some weird divorce vibes going on in it. I think there was intended to be a divorce subplot, they got rid of it. That's fun. If anybody has any insider knowledge, let us know. I think there was intended to be a divorce subplot, they got rid of it. That's fun. If anybody has any insider knowledge. Yeah, let us know. I wanted a shout out of the Colossus thing and they did. Do you remember, you know in the year of the Doom clones?
Starting point is 01:36:53 Yeah. There was Heretic and Hexen. I remember Heretic and Hexen. Which were like Doom but magic. You had a stick that shot magic. Exactly, maybe a Heretic remake. Yeah. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Are they doing Quake? I feel like they're doing something with quake at the moment I think they might be but also I kind of feel like doom checks all the boxes. Yeah, it's the it's the primary thing and if they go because quake was sort of like doom but HP Lovecraft Lovecraft Ian Horan kind of stuff to exactly 3d stuff too And I think they're like when people liked quite but also if we just do doom But it's sort of medieval and sort of magic. Yeah comes to checks all the boxes kind of thing I figured it out Jedi Knight to Dark Forces to Jedi Knight. They just did Dark Forces
Starting point is 01:37:34 Yeah, I love that games my favorite games keep all the FMB these stuff. Maybe jazzed up a little Slicker graphics. Yeah, keep it the same. Yeah Obviously and this will never happen because they've fallen down the live service well But I would love to see another Batman Arkham game that is in the style of Arkham asylum Which is just the self-contained and you don't have to Run all over the city. It's just kind of it's in a small location and it's kind of there is a new one coming But it's a VR experience Do that It's kind of a new one coming. It's a VR experience. I don't want to do that. I wouldn't do it either.
Starting point is 01:38:08 But I'm really happy that doing Prince of Persia. So that was starting as pretty much like a reskin. And then they dumped the entire team. Right. They basically restarted it. And now it's out in 2026. And it's a complete remake. I love that game. And I just, I really hope that's good. Like I'm constantly tempted to go back and play that game because I love it so much. It's just all I want to do. Including reading this book by Jordan Mechner, which I'm currently.
Starting point is 01:38:35 And I'm also playing the new Prince of Persia, not the rogue light one, the other one at the moment. Is that it? I've got another email. I've got another one here too. Oh, go, you go first. So Josh. I don't mind. Okay, do you mind? Who says, we're got another one here too. Oh, go you go first. So Josh.
Starting point is 01:38:45 I don't mind. Okay. Do you mind? Who says we're talking about aliens and aliens. James said the aliens smell acidic. So probably like bleach, but bleach is actually an alkaline. So aliens probably smell like a tomato. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Right. Right. It's probably true. Yeah. Hmm. Acid doesn't smell like a tomato. Marines order up tomatoes. I smell tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:39:04 I smell tomatoes. Game over, man.! Tomatoes. I smell tomatoes. I smell tomatoes. Game over man, I smell tomatoes. I smell tomatoes, what do you think? Yeah, that's the alien I reckon. Sure, it's not the killer tomatoes? In the movie Attack of the Killer Tomatoes? Could be.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Got another one Mason? Here's one more email for this from Chaz. And this is a very bold subject line. Star Wars Burnout and how Disney can fix it. Whoa, here we go! What's up dudes? I don't have 50 minutes Mason. Chaz here, first time long time, was enjoying a cold adult beverage with a girlfriend and came to a realization as to how Disney can fix Star Wars. Well again.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Is it stopped for a while? It's easy, keep making numbered trilogies. Maybe one every 15 years and put everything else into an all encompassing Game of Thrones style epic series. Most people don't have time for the content mill that has become Disney on Star Wars. Do we really need a whole book of Boba Fett and countless subseries delving into the minutiae of a galaxy far, far away? No just put it in one show that jumps around the galaxy. Let me know what you guys think.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Yep, sounds right to me. I have one thing going, but my opinion is also just stop. Just stop for a while. Just stop for a while, yeah. Let people miss it, let kids grow up next generation and then you go again. So you're expecting the bloody bean counters to just stop for a generation, James? Yeah, I am expecting that. Knowing that it's never going to happen. It'll happen if they're
Starting point is 01:40:16 forced into it, but otherwise it's not going to happen. Forced into it. Very good. Again, it's like the Warner Brothers Harry Potter thing. It's not just that, there's a whole machine behind this. This email also reminded me, I don't know. I mean, because Star Wars is sort of based entirely on minutiae. It's this idea of like everybody has a complicated backstory that you don't see. It was a thread on Twitter this week. You might know it as X. Somebody said what's your favorite piece of like, weird minutiae law that's canon,
Starting point is 01:40:46 but like, oh, yeah, and the one I saw, I didn't know this. But if you're not a huge Star Wars fan, or even if you are, you may not know that. If ever if anybody's ever asked a question about anything that's happened in a Star Wars movie or TV series or anything like any, why did the person do this? Or why did this happen? Or what you know, what have you. It's somebody's written a background for us. You know, it's like, why did this droid, you know, there's the famous one in A New Hope where they reveal, you know, there's Uncle Owen's going to buy a particular droid and then it blows up. So they get R2-D2 again. And the reveal is that that droid was like a hero droid that sacrificed himself. Yes. So that R2-D2 could meet up with Luke and save
Starting point is 01:41:26 the galaxy. There's another version where he's a Jedi. There's two. Yeah. Yeah. But yes, you're right. So one of the one I learned recently is that he's not just a bad droid. Yeah, that's right. In Revenge of the Sith is the scene where where Mace Windu and his mates his mates window, they they go to arrest Palpatine. Yeah, and then Palpatine immediately kills everybody but mice and then they then they have a big lightsaber battle. And apparently the reason that happened because Palpatine put a riddle in all their heads using the force and all of the other Jedi except Mace Windu pause to solve the riddle. And that's
Starting point is 01:42:04 why he killed them all so easily. And Mace Windu was just like, no, no, I'm not interested in this. So that's what was the riddle? I don't know. Just a complicated riddle. Wow. It might've been, does Marcellus Wallace look like a bitch? And he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Samuel L. Jackson knows the answer to that. He didn't have to think about it. But I do like the canonically that the basement new character was just like, fuck off with that. Yeah, but I like the idea again, the idea that somebody went, oh, how could, how could Palpatine, even if he's a suit, I mean, if you, you, you check their relative power levels, how could actually Palpatine defeat three Jedi at once? He couldn't do it obviously. So well, he made a riddle. Oh, well, that's okay.
Starting point is 01:42:44 I just assumed they didn't expect him to fucking leap out of the chair. Yeah, like I like a like a feral cat They've never fought anything like that Probably why but yeah, that's uh, and again a lot of these things I assume have changed as the continuity has changed etc. And maybe that's just in a novelization or something but it's there. It's there baby. I just got this one from Alex on Twitter who says, thanks for the years of entertainment man. Once comic story in past I realized people don't get the props until they're gone.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Much love. That's a very kind thing to say. Thank you for sending that in. I think though that is the show. That is the whole show. Folks thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends. They're like family to us, aren't they?
Starting point is 01:43:29 Yeah, yeah. More than family. More than family. Listeners. Double. I think that's more than family. I agree. Listeners who bump up those numbers, baby. I probably spend more time doing this than with,
Starting point is 01:43:40 not my immediate family, but like my. And do your family bump up those numbers? You've got a lot of family. You've got a lot of family. You got a couple of brothers and a lot of in-laws and stuff. None of my extended family. They don't bump up the numbers, do they? They're anti listeners of anything.
Starting point is 01:43:53 I could just go through that list and just be like, cross them off. Imagine if hypothetically like your sister-in-law. Yeah. Was at a dinner party. Yeah. And somebody said, oh, I listen to the I'm thinking about getting in a podcast. Oh, yeah. What do you would they recommend your our podcast? They might. They probably recommend it the way I'd recommend it in person. And I'm like, you wouldn't like it. Don't worry about it, which is how I recommend the show in real life. Okay. Oh, that's okay. All right, then. I don't think I've ever created a fan in real life. Interesting. Genuinely. If anything, we've
Starting point is 01:44:23 we've put people off. Yeah, probably. Sometimes people come up and they'll go, oh, you do the Mr. Sunny Moos videos. And I'm like, what's it to you? What's it to you? You want to fight? I was going to say it's good. Well, do you want to fight?
Starting point is 01:44:38 Do you want to fight though? Anyway, thanks for listening, folks. You like family to us. You like family, but better listening, folks. You're like family to us. You're better than you're like family, but better. But better. But better. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast. Oh yeah. Thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice.
Starting point is 01:44:53 You can probably do it in app, I reckon. Yeah, easy. Because if you do, James will read a review. Got a couple here. This one is from Coach Z817. He says, great podcast. That's a Homestar runner reference. I agree.
Starting point is 01:45:02 A great podcast about movies and comics and TV shows where I think one or both of the hosts has a slight crush on an animate animals and they're constantly dabbing and obviously watching Red Notice on repeat. One of those things is not true for me. And this one's from the outer juicer. It says, good job. Love the pro labor anti-billionaire talk. The movie news is whatever. Thank you for keeping me distracted while I work 12 hours delivering mail and hundreds of Amazon packages. Five stars. Good for keeping me distracted while I work 12 hours delivering mail and hundreds of Amazon packages. Five stars.
Starting point is 01:45:27 Good for you. That's hard work, man. That's right. Yeah. Good stuff. Sometimes we get people who say the opposite things. They send us messages. That's true.
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Starting point is 01:47:35 If you want a t-shirt, you go to tpublic.com and search for the Weekly Planet. That's our show. What's next week? A movie? A big time movie? We could go see Bad Boys 4th. I mean, it's doing really well. Yeah, it's by the guys who did Batgirl, which people liked. A big time movie? We could go see Bad Boys 4th Bad Boys. Maybe we should. It's doing really well. Yeah, it's by the guys who did Batgirl, which people liked. I just find- I saw some behind the scenes stuff and Will Smith's in a wig.
Starting point is 01:47:51 He's got the gun and whatever. Does that mean I gotta watch the other ones? POV shots, you should. Bad Boys! A couple of Bad Boys. What's coming out? I think you should watch every Bad Boy. With your wife away and you looking after two kids, I think you should also watch all
Starting point is 01:48:02 the Bad Boys movies. Why would you say that? Do I have to watch Bad Boys 2 again? That's the one I have seen. And do I have to watch the first 10 minutes of Bad Boys 3? Yeah. I think you should watch Bad Boys 2 again to get a refresher course on Bad Boys 2. I want to get a refresher course. Too bad. Too bad boys. Yeah, I mean it'll be that or a show or something because the week after that is A Quiet Place, which we'll be looking at.
Starting point is 01:48:25 We'll figure something out. We'll figure it out. All right, thanks everyone. Grab that gym you guys. We'll see you next week. Mad respect to everybody. Mad respect. And that goes both ways.
Starting point is 01:48:33 That's exactly right. All right, goodbye. Bye.

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