The Weekly Planet - 544 Beetlejuice Beetlejuice & Joker 2 First Reactions
Episode Date: September 9, 2024Welcome everyone! It's time for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (second Beetlejuice). Plus we talk the news of the week including the fate of MCU Blade and Armor Wars, Ian McKellen & Orlando Bloom returni...ng to Middle Earth, Oceans 14, trailers for The Mincraft Movie, Alien: Earth & The Wolfman, a release date for Creature Commando's, Josh Brolin as Hal Jordan, a Superman 2025 update, a The Batman II update and the first reactions to Joker: Folie à Deux. Thanks for listening, see you on the 30th!UK Tour Tickets for Sanspants x The Weekly Planet available here: https://www.sanspantsradio.com/events/category/live-shows/New bonus podcast episode out now! Visit bigsandwich.co for bonus weekly shows including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Maybe skip an extra few minutes.00:00 The Start06:35 Blade and/or Armor Wars Cancelled?09:09 Ian McKellen on Gandalf Return13:14 Oceans 14 Movie Happening19:01 Minecraft Movie Trailer24:43 Alien: Earth Series Trailer27:05 Wolf Man Movie Trailer30:22 DC's Creature Commandos Release36:40 Josh Brolin as Hal Jordan in Green Lantern Series?33:13 New Superman Movie Good?36:40 The Batman Movies Not in DCU?39:20 Joker 2: Folie a Deux First Reactions44:57 Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice Review58:10 Spoiler Segment01:03:38 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:09:56 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies
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My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday with me is my co-host Nick Mason.
James, it's great to be here.
It's great to be here and be genuine and honest.
Great.
Let's be genuine and honest, okay?
Let's do it.
We're going to be off until the 30th of September.
That's right.
Because I'll be traveling Europe with a couple of the Stanspansfellers doing some live shows.
Europe, I mean the UK.
Sure.
By that I mean London and Manchester and Birmingham.
Tread carefully, James.
And Edinburgh.
You don't want to accidentally say Ireland is in England or whatever.
Well, some of it is.
Some people have met.
Whoa, what bits though?
What bits though?
Tread carefully.
So yeah, we're off until the 30th.
I come back on the 28th.
So presumably, if I'm not sick, we will start again that Monday.
It might be a day late, but...
A buck short.
We might be writing a report, etc.
But all the crimes that I did committed overseas.
And so that's the idea basically.
So we would have missed some stuff in the interim, but I think that...
So like Transformers 1 will come back to maybe the Wild Robot. Agatha all along will have started. I know you want to talk
about Lord of the Rings the TV show. I don't want to talk about it. He's just making his way through season 1 and the book.
I'm not. No I'll never finish the book. He wants to know who's the rings of power.
You'll figure it out. Who is the Lord of the Rings? Is it Sauron? It's Sauron.
You sure though? I don't care. Does anyone explicitly say that in the book? Look I'll
say this of the show.
I think it's better than people give it credit for.
It's not great.
I think it's better than New Lord of the Rings.
Not Lord of the Rings.
New Game of Thrones again.
Okay, sure.
House of the Dragon.
Yeah, but I do enjoy that it's that cost a billion dollars and nobody's watching.
Well, I'm sure people involved in the production of both of those shows, I'm sure are glad
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better than the others. This show the cost of billion dollars an episode. They're there
looking at their plummeting viewership numbers and people watching the first two episodes
and then dropping right off and they're like, well, at least somebody on a podcast said
that ours is slightly better. Did he say ours was better? The other guys is better. I forgot.
I don't know.
So that's Megalopolis week as well. We'll be back for
so. That's not doing well financially. No, it won't. And everybody in its crook. I know.
That's fun. And the guy who directed this crook. I know. It's fun. Look, I'm going to
get this out of the way right now because we've talked about this off here. Sometimes
people will email in and they'll be like, hey, how come you keep saying that this guy sucks? But you never say that these other guys sucks. Yeah, and then the real answer is we don't have time
No, we would just do it all that that would be all we would do. Yeah
Yeah, like literally sometimes we take a moment to say it. Yeah, and then move on and sometimes we're just we all we forget
Yeah, I'd look I think it's probably safe to say that like we think the like 90% of people in Hollywood are the worst
Like by what they do or the who they associate with they've done. Yeah, and all this stuff
We're thinking about one at one that like what we'll do an episode one week just to prove it. We'll go crook blokes
Yeah, just we'll just anytime we bring anybody up. We'll be like who sucks by the way look it up like every time
There's a new trailer. It's got this guy who sucks by the way. Look it up and this guy who sucks by the way, look it up. Like every time there's a new trailer, it's got this guy who sucks by the way, look it up. And this guy who sucks by the way, look it up.
Yeah. But then also you get into that, well, what specifically do they suck and whatever.
And that's a whole other can of worms that you open and then you're stuck in the suck
loop.
Yeah, you are stuck.
And I just want to talk about red hot comic book movies.
And that's not always great to be stuck in the suck loop.
Exactly. It can be fun for a moment or two, but you don't want to be there the whole time.
That's right.
Yeah. But while we're away, bigsandwich.co is continuing, if you do want to still hear
of us.
We're thinking about putting some stuff from there up on the main feed, some of the older
stuff if you might be interested, and maybe on the YouTube channel.
But yeah, that's continuing through if you're going to be missing our faces and voices and
such.
That's right.
Yeah.
Let me tell you listeners, I'm missing you already. Are you?
We're just gonna have a good three weeks.
I'm just going to be in bed.
Yeah, man. That's cool as.
I'm not going to think about any of this stuff.
I'm not going to think about Transformers 1.
I'm not thinking about the little robot or whatever you said.
A wild robot.
I'm not going to think about it at all.
A wild robot.
What I did because my son and I have been reading that book.
So.
That book?
What are you talking about?
Those wild robots.
Oh, I see.
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I thought it was a sort of book that could not be named. It can be named. Okay. It's a crook book. No, book. What are you talking about? Wild robot. Oh I see. There's three. I thought
it was a sort of book that cannot be named. It can be named. Okay. It's a crook book.
No I don't know. Is it Jordan Peterson's book? You've been reading Jordan Peterson's
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It's a fun hint.
Also, you know what's not that fun?
Reading a fucking book to nobody.
But I did it.
Injected a bit of fun into what Mason.
I'm always fascinated by people who do solo podcasts and it's just them talking to nobody.
Or for the most part, like people doing YouTube videos where it's just talking to nobody.
I'm like, damn.
Damn.
You get no feedback.
No, you don't.
If I have to record anything solo, I'm like, I don't know.
Yeah, this is way better.
Yeah.
If I'm honest.
Agreed.
All right, let's get into it.
Mason.
The best podcast team will never die.
True.
We're going to talk Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice and yes, then. I mean, you are going on a plane in a couple of days. I am, yeah. You might die. I might. Yeah, let's get into it. The best podcast team will never die. True. We're going to talk Beetlejuice Beetlejuice and yes, you are going on a plane in a couple
of days.
I am.
Yeah.
You might die.
I might.
Yeah, I won't though.
I definitely won't.
I'm pretty sure I won't.
I'm pretty sure I won't.
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.
There is a CrookBloke reference in that.
We'll get to it.
There's time codes below.
Collings who edits this puts them in, but this is also what we're going to talk about.
We're going to talk about the fate of Blade and Armor Wars.
We're going to talk about Ian McKellen and Orlando Bloom recording, returning, The Lord of the Rings. We're gonna talk about a new
Oceans movie. Which are your favorite movies maybe. One of them is. One of them is.
We're gonna talk about. It's Oceans 8. Yeah we're gonna talk about some trailers for
Minecraft, Aliens Earth. An ocean of ladies. Oh.
Minecraft, Alien Earth and The Wolfman. We've got a bunch of DCU stuff.
It's pronounced as the Wolfman.
The Wolfman. DC used stuff.
The Wolverman. They're trying to cash in on the billion dollar franchise.
That makes sense. So for the DC, we've got a Creature Commander release date.
We've got some Hell Jordan casting news. We've got some Superman news in terms of what the movie is like and about aesthetically.
We're going to talk about Matt Reeves' Batman movies
and what they're going for and the first reaction.
Like Rath Reeves.
Whoa!
Yeah.
The first reactions to Joker 2 Fully Adieu.
Fully Adieu.
Which I'm very excited to talk about.
My goodness.
It's 2019 all over again.
Has the magic, has the magic, has the magic,
does the Emperor have new clothes?
No, new clothes.
No clothes?
Do they have new clothes? You ever have new or no clothes
Probably has new clothes. It is the Emperor is the Emperor the Joker Emperor Joker. That was a storyline. Yeah, it's probably good
Anyway, let's start with this is by Daniel Richmond. He's a scooper. He is he's big scoops
Pretty good track record
All right, the fate of blade and armor was Wars apparently will be decided over the next few months.
Okay.
It's also been mentioned and people have taken note that it would look bad if they cancelled
two projects with Black Leads.
So they'll probably cancel one of them only.
Also did we not see a clip from Don Cheadle this week where somebody said-
Somebody asked him about it.
Somebody asked him about Armors and he said what's that?
Yeah.
So I suspect- it's that one
Yeah, they're pivoting into a television into a movie or something. Don't they already tip pivoting? Oh, maybe Mason
Um, I think blade is will be recast. Yeah, I think like will happen because it yeah, maybe
We go back to Wesley Snipes. I don't think so not like is a permanent
You might you'll probably turn up again. But yeah, I know I saw a thread on Twitter and I won't think so. Not like as a permanent fixture. It'll probably turn up again.
I saw a thread on Twitter and I won't be able to find it now. But someone suggested that a better role for Marshall Ali in the Marvel universe might now be Blue Marvel, who's sort of like a
African-American Superman kind of character. So I think that might work. And then yeah,
you recast Blade with... Blade? yeah, the real guy who's real blade
Yeah, okay. Let's do that. Then. Let's let's just do that
What do you think I'm always cancelled blade cancelled if they're gonna cancel or if they're gonna cancel one of them
I don't know. I kind of feel like ready to scroll rewards. He was a scroll. That's true
Yeah, I kind of wonder if blade which one do you think in the public eye works the best on
its own?
I think it's Blade.
It's definitely Blade.
Yeah.
Armor Wars, it's like, oh, okay, it's kind of like Iron Man, but Robert Downey Jr. isn't
Iron Man anymore.
Why do we watch this kind of thing?
Why do we watch this?
Why do we watch this?
What a waste of time.
I would love to see, I think I would probably prefer to see Armor Wars.
Yeah.
I would love to see it.
Because you've seen Blade. I have seen Blade, that's true. armor wars. Yeah, I would love to see a you've seen blade I have seen blighted recently even yeah, that's right
I personally would prefer to see because I want to see I want to see bad guys in cool
Ironman style armors like the premise of art of yeah
most of the armor wars storylines in the comics is somebody gets a bunch of people get a hold of
The Stark Industries technology and they build their own evil Iron Man and I just want to see a bunch of cool ones
All right, then you will maybe. Yeah, I've
seen all the freaky vampires. Yeah. It's only so wide their jaws can go. It's true.
You know? Yeah. There's no limit to how wide the jaws can go on an Iron Man
armor. It could go around the earth. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Wow, that's exciting Mason. Let's talk about this. But as we know, the one
that I want never happens. No, that's true.
But as we know, the one that I want never happens. No, that's true.
Mason, by the big issue, Ian McKellen.
The magazine.
Apparently.
Okay.
For homeless and long term employees.
That's right.
So good service and I buy them when I'm in the city.
Same.
And I never end up reading them.
No, I never read them either.
But sometimes my friends write little articles in the Australian versions.
That must be nice.
Anyway, Ian McKellen, he's 85 and he recently fell off a stage, if you recall correctly.
He probably went, oh dear.
He probably went, consarnate.
People were like, wait a second, you're not British at all.
It's only this accident that's revealed it.
We're taking your knighthood back.
Well, we'll talk about that.
So he was asked about whether he's going to return as Gandalf in more Lord of the Rings
movies.
Or return as Gambit.
Yeah that's true he could.
He could do it.
I guarantee.
I mean.
That's him throwing the cards.
Oh yeah nice.
He said, I've been told that there are more films and Gandalf will be involved and they
hope that I'll be playing him.
When asked when he'll return another story details, he replied, when?
I don't know what the script is.
It's not written yet.
So they better be quick.
Yeah, this dude, you got to get started on this.
Because they fell off the stage that time.
Well, Orlando Bloom, he spoke to a variety and they said, Lord of the Rings, etc.
Do you want to come back?
And he said, yeah, I don't know how they'll do it.
It's, uh, I guess with AI, you can do anything these days.
But if Pete, Peter Jackson says jump, I say how high, I mean, he started my whole
career, said he did speak to Andy circus and he did say they were thinking about
how to do things.
I was like, how does this even work?
And he was like, well, AI.
And I was like, oh, okay.
It was a pretty magical time in my life.
And it's one of those things where there's no downside to it. Yeah. So they're going to D-age. Well, they don't
really need to D-age Ian McKellen because he's got all the beards on.
I think they should though. Why? To like teen Ian McKellen? Teen McKellen. Yeah, that's
right.
No, because it's set like 20 to 50 years before the original one. And they'll need to, cause Orlando Bloom is what?
Mid to late forties now at this point.
It's left to DHM at least slightly.
It's a mystery, there's no way to find that out.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Also, I think probably when he says AI,
he doesn't mean like generative AI.
They call everything AI these days.
Like anything that your computer can do is AI.
It's annoying.
He means what he should say is he means they're gonna do the planet of the apes thing to my face.
You know,
Dots and such.
Dots and such.
Yeah.
Well, Ian McKellen also talked about when he met the Queen.
Vaseline on the lens.
Yeah, that'll work.
Yeah, Ian McKellen said, I think this is when he got his knighthood.
Queen McKellen.
Queen McKellen.
And the Queen apparently said to him, he said this this week, you've been doing this for an awfully long time.
To which he replied, well, not as long as you.
And then she said, does anyone still actually go to the theatre?
And he didn't say this, but his response in this article was,
that's bloody rude when you're giving someone a medal for acting.
It meant, does anyone care a fuck about what you do?
Because I don't. Now off
you go.
Damn.
Then it said the 85 year old theatrical knight said he had some-
And now she's dead, he said.
I fell off a stage and lived.
Said that he had sympathy for the British royal family, however, I've been to public
life a bit, but these people are in prison. They can't do anything normal. Can you imagine
having to be nice to everyone you talk to? No, I can't actually and I can be normal
Can they you ever seen one of them do anything normal? No, but I have faith in them
So one day one day one of them will do something normal
What do you think that'll look like? I mean not normal
So they won't be normal at all be as close as they can get to normal, but we will be like
It'll be like an approximation of normal. Not at all. Be as close as they can get to normal, but we will be like, oh. It'll be like an approximation of normal. Yeah. Like a performance of sorts. Yeah, like
a performance art of something. Interesting. So if one of them's a really good actor, which
they couldn't do, because that would be a normal thing to do. God, this is going to
be interesting, isn't it? The royal family who suck, by the way. Look it up. They're
not all great. Which part? Doesn't matter. Who do you want to target specifically?
The one that doesn't sweat or something? Throw him a fucking rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is my deadline. Oceans 14 is happening apparently. Sources said that George Clooney and Brad Pitt are coming back.
Oh, he sucks by the way, look it up.
And they are caught in... And one of them keeps working with the other guy, so he probably sucks as well.
We don't know anything.
I like to see both sides of this guy who's friends with the guy who sucks.
Yeah, sure.
And they both have competing capsule coffee machine sponsorships.
And isn't that great?
Yes.
And they're caught in...
Just a bit of fun.
I think so.
Edward Berger, who...
Excuse me?
His name, who directed All Quiet and on the rest in front the new one
It's finally really good and conclave to take on directing duty. So Stephen Soderbergh will not return
What about this in smokehouse have been working diligently on oceans 14, which I hope that's I hope that's not a production company
But it's a restaurant smokehouse. Yeah, which would be the first without director
Stephen Soderbergh while promoting boy boys on the boat boys! Boys on the Boat! Clooney said that they had a
strong script that is in the spirit of going in style. Okay, alright. Which I
haven't seen. His fun thing. I thought they just meant the idea of going in
style. Oh okay. That sounds fun. Among some of the others that they
imagine will be back include Matt Damon and Casey Affleck. It sucks by the way look at that.
Now one of your favourite movies is not original.
The first Soda Burgos.
Soda Burgos 2011.
So 2001 or whatever it came.
Which sucked by the way look it up.
2001 not a great year.
No, no.
And the only event you ever organised was to bring everybody together to watch the sequel.
Yeah, all my friends.
And then you gave up on any kind of event or hosting.
Ever again.
I've never held another thing in my life.
I'm like, I'm sorry everyone.
I'm sorry.
You don't even hate that movie now though, do you?
No, it's all right.
It's all right.
She's not the first one.
I mean, yeah, it's not the first one, is it? No.
Even 13 is better.
Yeah, 13 is better.
13 is more like the original one.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
Anyway, but you, I figure you of all people would be excited for some of the Ocean's cast
to come back.
Some of them are dead.
Well, Elliot Gould no longer with us.
Is he in?
Bernie Mac is dead.
Bernie Mac is dead.
A bunch of them got cancelled.
I mean, I guess this is the question.
Do you bring in some of the Ocean's 8 cast?
Because we've got to fill out that cast.
We need, we don't just need one more.
Sandra Bullock.
Sandra Bullock.
Cate Lanchett.
Yeah.
Fresh off Borderlands.
Borderlands.
Wow, what a movie.
Yeah, I know, right?
Yeah.
Didn't that come out? Yeah, it came out. Did we do an episode on it? We did and it was awful. It was a bad movie. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. Didn't that come out? Yeah, it came out.
Did we do an episode on it?
We did and it was awful.
It was a bad movie?
One of the worst.
Yeah.
One of the worst.
I thought The Crow was better than that movie.
The Crow is better than that movie.
That is definitively true.
Yeah.
I reckon they might bring in some of the eight cast.
Why not?
Anne Hathaway.
Anne Hathaway.
The gymnast, he was in that one.
That's true, yeah.
Remember they said in that movie that George Clooney was dead?
The actor?
Remember the end?
Sandra Bullock visited his grave and goes, I'll bet you're dead, George Clooney.
And we thought he would step out and go, actually.
Actually.
I'm friends with Brad Pitt, who sucks by the way.
I bought that gravestone on Wish.
Yeah, so that's fun.
Anyway, you look, I mean, everybody seems like they're having fun.
I want it phoned in like the original Ocean's Eleven. Just drunk guys walking around. Absolutely, that's fun. Anyway, you look, I mean, everybody seems like they're having fun. I want it phoned in like the original Ocean's Eleven.
Just drunk guys walking around.
Absolutely, let's go.
Half finished script, no script, just wandering around.
Hey, what if I just walked in and grabbed the money and then I left?
That's all I'm going to do today.
Oh, is that just them picking up?
I've got two shows back to back after this.
That's them picking up their payment. That's not even for the sake.
What if I just walked in and picked up my money?
I guess we could use that in the movie. All right.
Look, I don't know. I don't, you can get all your friends together again. Oh my God. Don't
you think you should? They could redeem. Yes. They could redeem. That my friends could redeem
themselves. Oh, what if a bunch of people I haven't seen in like 20 years all got an
email. I'm like, we're all going to see Ocean's 14. My goodness would you do that would you have a
watch party? As a prank? No! Oh for real? As a genuine act of artistic expression.
Yes. Yeah okay. Alright. I wonder how many people are going to come back.
I mean whoever's alive I guess.
Who do you think is going to get mad if they bring in women to the predominantly all men?
The normal people who get mad. What do you mean who?
I guess you're right.
The people that always get mad. The same group of people.
Absolutely.
Also the other movies have women in them.
I know, but if you're like, well actually this is going to be half and half.
This is going to be men and women.
Seven men, it's going to be seven brides for seven brothers, but it's Ocean's 14.
Depending on who the cast is, like it might end up just being half because of who's dead.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, or not around or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
What an amazing time we've all had.
Yeah, what a silly question for me to ask who's going to get mad.
It's the same guys who get fake.
Yeah. Do you think it's going to be new people?
It's going to be new people.
Yeah. Like a different group.
Yeah.
A different subgroup of unfuckable nerds.
Were people mad when 8 came out? Some people must have been.
But I feel like that movement of...
Oh, it's different now.
I think it's bigger now.
Yeah.
Like it's not...
It's...
They would get mad when a specific thing came out, but they wouldn't get...
They wouldn't search out things to get mad for every day, you know?
Yeah.
Also, I just want to specify, when I say unfuckable nerds, I mean it's strictly personality.
You can change that about yourself.
Anybody can be better.
You don't have to be like that.
You can just let all that shit go and be normal.
With abs? You don't have to even have that. You can just let all that shit go and be normal. With abs?
You don't have to even have abs.
Interesting.
You can do whatever.
Wow.
Just glutes?
Just look at the world.
Just glutes.
Just glutes. People love that. Just look at the world through empathy. You know?
Or don't care. Don't worry about it. Just don't worry about it. Mason, trailers ahoy,
let's do it.
Haaaaaa. Trailer's time.
The first one we've got here is the mine.
Trailer's approaching in the dock.
Yes.
Is what I assume announcements at the dock sound like.
You don't need to elaborate on this bit, Mason.
It was a perfect self-contained...
And it remains a perfect self-contained bit.
No, because you added the dock and whatever.
No, no, the elaboration makes it better.
I liked the idea of it just came past and just kind of like threw them ashore.
Okay, well now there's a lot of bureaucracy.
A lot of waiting in lines.
Yeah, you've definitely made this better.
The Minecraft trailer for a movie called A Minecraft Movie.
Let's just stamp the Minecraft trailer's passport.
Oh, wait.
You haven't checked that box.
Yeah.
Gotta spray it for something.
For being a bad movie.
My only note here just says, oh no.
Bearing in mind, this isn't for us.
No, absolutely not.
This is for kids, but it does look like it was shot
in a green screen with zero effort.
Yes.
I think some of the design elements of the world
are interesting.
I think maybe they should have just stuck to that
for this teaser.
Yeah.
To show the square animals.
Yeah, I thought the animals were interesting and they've given you know, if it's a square sheep
They've given it that the wooly texture and that's kind of cool
You know
I all credit to the visual effects artists who have probably been crunched and will continue to be crunched till this comes out
Looks pretty good. But again, they've done the thing of it's just Jumanji again
It's it's we get a bunch of people including some people who've been in Jumanji already
Yeah, and we just
be like, what if they were in this world and it's crazy?
Yeah.
And the guy from Minecraft is there and he's Jack Black.
People have turned on this way.
That's true, yeah.
Because of this and Borderlands.
And the time he betrayed Kyle.
Yeah, that's right.
When Kyle quit the band.
That's exactly right.
Which maybe is a ruse.
Yeah.
He did say they're coming back.
It's going to happen.
Yeah, it's very... It's... I've seen, you know, the discourse on the internet that's like,
he's, you know, a couple of months ago, people would have been like,
yeah, Jack Black in a movie, that sounds like fun.
But a lot of people are like, I hate this guy now.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
I don't.
I think what the problem with this for me is that,
even with the Borderlands movie, which is terrible.
Yeah.
Like there were real sets and things, but this is clearly something where you mostly just have to film it in green screen environments.
Like, do you mind you can go to a jungle and film a real thing.
Yeah, you can.
But here you've like-
Jungle cruise, you go to a jungle.
Go to a real jungle, build a real boat.
And I'm not saying that I can't build, they haven't built stuff here.
But a lot of this is going to be them stand filming on green screens
and then being like, look at that square shape or whatever. How do we use a pickaxe to make
a fight? I don't fucking know anything about Minecraft. I'm sorry. I'm not against it.
I'm just, I don't know anything about it. So I just think, yeah, it does feel really
lazy is the right word, but just unappealing as this concept.
I think maybe a fully animated thing would have been better, like the Mario movie.
Now if, so is Jack?
Or make it, or make all the stuff.
Yes.
Like make it for real.
When they can't, because unless they did-
So it's not easier in computers.
Yeah, also maybe they didn't, it just still looks like this.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe they tried and it looked awful.
Yeah.
So Jack Buc is playing Steve, Minecraft Steve.
Yeah.
So who's pixels in the game, but he's real in this.
Yeah.
Are all the people in the Minecraft movie.
No, I think they got sucked in Jumanji style.
But like, what about Minecraft Steve?
Is he gonna turn to pixels eventually?
Is everybody gonna turn to pixels?
Yeah, maybe.
Oh, there'll probably be people where they all turn to pixels.
And they've got, like, you've got the power to be pixels now. You got to pixels eventually. Is everybody going to turn to pixels? Yeah, maybe. Oh, they'll probably be where they all turn to pixels. And they've got, they're like, you've got the power to be pixels now.
You've got to pixels.
People are also upset because Jason Momoa has a weird little fringe.
Oh yeah, yeah. And a pink leather jacket or whatever.
He's just wearing his regular clothes, folks.
That's what he wears. He's got his weird little fringe.
Nobody's put any effort in this. They're phoning it in.
Here we go. Four mis- I've got the premise here.
Four misfits. Garrett, the garbage man Garrison, Jason Momoa, Henry, Natalie and Dawn find themselves struggling with ordinary problems
when they are suddenly pulled through a mysterious portal into the overworld, a bizarre cubic
wonderland that thrives on imagination.
Sounds like the game Minecraft.
Yeah, to come back they'll have to master the world and protect it from evil things
like piglins and zombies too.
You can craft a thing in the crafting table. I'm crafting it because I believe in myself.
I've done it.
While embarking on a mystical quest with an unexpected expert crafter, Steve Jack Black.
Together they're-
I'm showing you how to craft things.
Look at that, you do all this here.
I'm Steve. Skibba-da-doo.
Together they're-
Try and make a normal thing. I've made a crazy dumb thing.
You haven't gotten it yet because you don't believe in yourself
Together their adventure
Will challenge all five to be bold and reconnect with the qualities that make each of them uniquely
Creative the very skills that they'll need to thrive. All right in the real world
How do you feel about that? Ah, great. I feel great. You know what? This will make a billion dollars
Absolutely, well, maybe it's funny, but I don't think that the you know what the
other thing is the trailer's not funny. No that's true. I think if the trailer
was funny then it's not enough to be like I'm Steve. They're like oh that's a
normal name. Yeah. And that's funny. So you know it's gonna let the dog out. Let the dog out.
Where's that dog now? Out. Out.
Nice.
Good.
Out.
Out on its ass.
Mason.
Anyway, terrific trailer.
I loved it.
It could still be good.
It could.
It's not a good trailer.
Alien Earth.
Here's the thing.
I'm hoping it just has like jokes for grownups in it.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Like someone does a Jack Nicholson impersonation.
Yes.
Yeah.
There's a scene and it's just 12 angry men. Did you know there's a, you know,
the smile movies, the horror movies. Smile 2 has Ray Nicholson in it. Yeah, Jack Nicholson's son.
And they've given it, cause he's got the Jack Nicholson smile. So they've sort of leveraged
that for the poster. He's all like, hey, did you ever see Smile 1? No, no. Me neither. That's all right.
People say it's all right. Is this all right though? There's a teaser trailer for Alien Earth.
Oh.
Which is coming in 2025.
It's basically what if aliens came to Earth?
Uh huh.
Now the timeline of this, this is pre the original Alien.
Hey, this is alright around here actually.
Yeah.
I don't feel like destroying humanity anymore because this is cool on Earth.
It's lovely.
That's the aliens talking.
It is.
Oh okay cool.
Who did you think it was?
I thought it was the person who was in this.
Dan Stevenson maybe?
No.
That's the aliens. They change their ways once they get to Earth.
Dan Stevenson in this?
Dan Stevens?
No, it's Noah Hawley, but who did?
Legion.
That's what I'm thinking.
Anyway, the synopsis of this reads,
because the trailer doesn't match.
When a mysterious space vessel crash lands on Earth,
a young woman.
It's not that mysterious, it's got aliens in it.
Yeah, true.
Sidney Chandler and a ragtag group of tactical soldiers
make a fateful discovery that puts them face to face
with the planet's greatest threat
Coming in buddy politicians
But you know let us say that I come on man, that's such a actually yeah, did you take some money from somebody?
Yeah, how much I'd rather not say was it four hundred thousand dollars. It was four hundred thousand dollars
Yeah, okay, but I have to do 40 minutes on a normal podcast over the span of a year. So it's
cool. It's normal money. Very doable. Very doable. Yeah. It's coming in 2025. I'm very excited for
this. Me too. Yeah. I think Timothy Olfand is in it as mentioned. Oh, yeah. Other people. Does it say
when it is set? Yeah. Alien. I think I'm pretty sure it's after Prometheus, but before another
thing. Okay, nice. Let me think. Let me think a minute. It's after Prometheus, but before another thing. Okay, nice. Let me think.
Let me think a minute.
It says after Prometheus, but before space balls.
Space balls?
Mm-hmm.
Ah, Peter Whalen shit, whatever, whatever.
Prometheus, Alien Covenant, Alien Covenant Origins,
Alien Covenant blah, blah, blah.
I know about Alien Covenant.
Have I missed it already?
What have I done here?
What have I done here, Mason?
I don't know.
Tell me what I've done.
You've done a great thing.
You've created the best podcast in the world.
Thank you.
Oh yeah, I did do that.
I can't find it on this goddamn timeline.
It's okay.
Look, all I really was fishing for there is to set the present date.
Prometheus happens in 2093, it's the inverse, and Alien Earth is thought to take place in 2092-ish,
which is 30 years before Alien. So I don't know. I mean, so I guess it'll be a self-contained,
we got them all. We got them all. Because I can't run rampant on Earth. There's something,
actually, I do want to talk about in what we're reading in Alien this week. Did you
read the new Avengers Alien comic? No, but I saw the cover.
It's good, man. Check it out. Also got a trailer for The Wolfman.
This is Lee Whannell's next movie. The last one he did was The Invisible Man, which was great. I agree.
And he redesigned the concept of the Wolfman and he's done it again. Now you don't see a lot of
the Wolfman in the trailer. Because he looks too spooky-ooky-ooky. That's right. And somebody got
bit and he becomes a wolfman. It also got the alien kind of text the way it comes in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the thing.
But there was a Universal hosted its annual themed event
at its parks.
And people might have saw this,
but if you haven't look it up.
And then unveiled their first look at
Lee Winnell's upcoming Wolfman.
As just a guy.
He looks like a rat.
What do you think of him?
He's certainly a ratty man, isn't he?
I think the colour, like the colouring of him, if he was darker. He's got goblin vines. Yeah he's got gobliny ratty vines. Yeah if
he had darker skin you couldn't really tell. Like a brown furry kind of. Yeah yeah yeah
yeah like it doesn't, if you said, if you didn't, if you showed, I was still here and
he's standing in front of a poster that says the wolf man. so you you know you you you draw to a
conclusion there you know totally but if you were to show this to random person
say what is this I reckon they'd be like goblins I'd be like this is some sort of
goblin I love it I love that it's a that it's strange yeah I think it's not you
know the traditional wolf man looks like looks like a rat. Yeah.
I mean, we've got, you know, Hollywood has definitely run the gamut as far as wolf man
designs, you know, and this, this is, so my guess is this is, this is intended to be closer
to like early wolf man designs.
Okay.
Like, you know, your 1930s ones and this is, this is is Wolfman the Wolfman 2010.
So this is the Benicio del Toro one that's full furry face and you know they've
gone with with um what's the Cape Beacon sale franchise underworld underworld
their like hands.
Yeah.
And they've gone like the fully and of course with Twilight and etc.
They've got their fully just look like wolves.
But I also liked the do you remember the werewolf by night?
Yes, the uh, what was that again? That was the Marvel special presentation. Oh yeah, that was a good one.
That wasn't, that wasn't, he's not hugely wolf-like in that either. No, but he is a wolf man.
So here's a bit, this is from, this is from Screen Junkie XL.
Friend of yours? No, this is just on the Twitters.
And this is a better look.
It looks better when it's sort of maniacal and kind of.
Yeah.
He's sort of.
I wonder if that's the original Wolfman who bites the guy.
Oh right, yeah.
And then he turns into a different Wolfman.
Maybe, yeah.
It's good to think about the Wolfman.
But yeah, look, I'm sure it will be good, this movie.
Yeah.
If I can stake my claim there.
You should. And I reckon it'll probably look good on screen
It is just interesting that they've the debut is not been in a trailer or a poster. It's a guy in a suit
Yes, it's essentially a fairground. That's why they released the trailer. Yes
Yeah, because they're like we got to get ahead of this and show a good trailer and it is we still haven't had an official
Trailer for Thunderbolts. No.
A couple of other things we saw at...
They were some more leaks, weren't they?
That's true, yeah.
Yeah. That's okay, Mason.
Anyway, I'm excited for the movie. But that's an interesting debut for that, isn't it?
Agreed. Mason, let's do some DCU news.
Awesome. Okay.
Some of it's just DC news, because the DCU is a very specific universe in relation to
DC comic live action materials.
Tell someone who cares.
It's me!
I'm always interested.
You've been telling me for years.
I'm very interested.
I tell you every week about this shit.
Yeah.
I love it.
Yeah, I'm taking it all in.
Yeah. I tell you every week about this ship. Yeah, you think yeah. Yeah, I'm taking it all in yeah
DCU apparently creature commandos will debut on December 5th
Okay, and there'll be episode a week up until January 16th. Oh, that's exciting week to week. That's right
We can talk about it. That's gonna be that's gonna be the official first thing
Yeah, nice from the DCU. Oh, I'm sure mental or or Blue Beetle or The Flash, which they said was, but it's not.
That's right.
This one's from...
They said those things and then people went, boo!
We don't like them.
Yeah.
They said, well, no then.
I like some or one of those things.
Can't remember which.
You like Blue Beetle.
I did like Blue Beetle actually, yeah.
Nexus Point News have said that Josh Brolin has been offered the role of Hal Jordan in
the upcoming HBO series, Lantons.
Interesting.
If not him, they might look at...
Here's some other old guys we thought of.
Yeah, Timothy Olfant.
Okay, don't mind that.
And Chris Pine.
Don't mind that either.
Jeff Snyder has said that they're also eyeing, if not him, Matthew McConaughey, which makes sense because it's like a True Detective kind of thing.
True Detective show.
And I've written... They've alleged it's a true detective type
That's what they've said and I've written you wouldn't McGregor. I don't know who that is
I don't know
Why not a new guy put a new face in I put a fresh face
Yeah, so maybe this will be in a man. Valani thing. Oh, you know new fresh face and you're like, I love this
You and McGregor's now they're very enthusiastic, you know? They're real stickler for continuity, Ewan McGregor.
I agree.
Apparently...
Hope he doesn't cheat on his pregnant wife, Ewan McGregor.
Come on, mate.
Hope he doesn't do that.
Hope he doesn't do that.
Ewan McGregor, a new guy, unrelated, who sucks by the way, look him up.
McGregor?
Yeah, Ewan McGregor.
Yeah.
Daniel Richardson said, they're writing Josh Josh Brolin because their vision for Hal Jordan
is to have him as an older gruff no-nonsense mentor to a younger and reckless Jon Stewart.
Nice.
As we know, Brolin excels at playing the grumpy type.
Yeah, that makes sense.
With a lot of gold though.
Yeah.
So I mean, yeah, this is a, as we've talked about, it's a universe that is a bit along.
Yeah.
Like Superman is new, but he's not that new.
Yep. So there wouldn't, it he's not that new. Yep.
So there wouldn't, it makes sense if there,
there's a couple of Green Lanterns,
the first one would maybe a little bit older.
Now who does one get for a young John Stewart
is the question.
It's a great question.
What about the guy that was in Alien Romulus?
Oh, he was great.
He was great.
Yeah, him, done.
Yeah.
Whatever his name is done.
That's right.
Mason, this is also by Daniel Richerman.
I mean, you might be like, that guy seems like a nerd, but he was playing a nerd. He was acting. He was acting and playing a nerd. Yeah. Uh, Mason. This is also by Daniel Richdman. I mean, you might be like, that guy seems like a nerd.
But he was playing a nerd.
He was acting.
He was acting and playing a nerd.
Yeah.
David John's song.
Yeah, he was good.
Yeah.
This one's also by Daniel Richdman.
It's about Superman.
If it's him, I called it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well done.
Thank you.
This is what apparently is being said at the new Superman movie.
I've also heard that the new Superman movie is fantastic and they're going all out. It's a complete shift to hardcore sci-fi.
I've heard it's bad and they don't care. They're not going all out. They said they're on two
burners.
Sometimes they do. That. It's a complete shift to hardcore sci-fi and fantasy. The exact
opposite.
They're just saying whatever to the continuity. It doesn't matter.
Yeah. They think you're an idiot for even thinking about watching this.
Sometimes Superman can fly and sometimes he can't. then Lois Lane's like why didn't you fly? He goes off forgot
They don't care
You're someone said to James Gunn shouldn't you care more about this movie that's a kickoff for your new university like nada
Yeah, I'm just gonna point the camera in another direction
There's two squirrels rooting.
I'm going to film that and put that in the movie.
So lens on this thing.
Why bother?
It's close enough.
Put some light in there.
I don't know.
I don't know how it works.
Put some light in this.
Or don't.
What's the matter?
I fired all the lighting guys, the grips.
Fired the camera operator.
Just put the camera on the ground.
Lens down.
Should be good.
Should be good I think.
It's a complete shift to hardcore sci-fi and fantasy, the exact opposite of Man of Steel.
It's in a world very different from ours and far removed from the DCEU.
Heroes have been around for ages and we'll see how it affected the world's history and its shape to the DCEU.
So kind of like, I guess, the Watchmen universe is like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I mean, that makes sense. It's, you know, if everybody
has superpowers, the world's going to evolve in a different way. And that's a sort of a
thing that people haven't really dared to do in a lot of comic book stuff. Like they
did it...
Iron Man, they did a lot of it like retroactively.
Yeah, and...
Within the MCU, I should say.
The later years of the image's Wildstorm universe was like that.
Like you know if there's characters that have alien technology they're gonna you know build
batteries that last forever and all this sort of stuff.
Yeah.
Technology to benefit the world and that universe did that until it got bought by DC.
Yeah.
And then it just rolled it into the regular DC universe and all that stuff went into the bin.
And good. Yeah.
But I also love the idea of Metropolis.
You know, when it's pictured as a contrast to Gotham, it's a slightly more futuristic version of the city.
And maybe there's like a monorail running through the...
Maybe there's a river that divides Gotham and Metropolis.
Oh my god.
And they look exactly the same.
Hell yeah. What do you think of that? I think that sounds cool. They're both dark and grim and dirty. Yeah and one of them fell down. But which one doesn't matter. We're not sticklers for this.
We're not sticklers for this continuity. One of them fell down. That's in the trailer.
One of them fell down. In a world where one of the cities fell down.
One of them fell down. In a world where one of the cities fell down.
Bad man, he's upset about it.
I'm upset about it.
I'm ropeable, actually.
The DC will feature various projects set across different timelines, not just the present
day, so more in line with the approach of Star Wars than Marvel.
Oh.
Okay.
I mean, yeah, it's a fantasy fucking universe and it's okay to admit that, you know?
Every now and then.
Because often also you see in Superman movies, and this wasn't in the DCU, it's just him.
And maybe some other stuff could have happened.
You know?
All right.
Now, SFX Magazine, they spoke to Matt Reeves.
Sex Magazine?
Yep.
Wow. And they said, how are you doing it?
How are you doing it, brother?
You doing it?
You doing it on the reg, brother?
Hell yeah, brother.
They didn't even answer.
They're just like, oh yeah.
You don't even have to say, we know.
You met the Batman.
That movie was sick.
It was sick as hell.
Apparently, he's got to dig into the Batman too.
He's got to dig into the epic story about deeper corruption and it goes into places
he couldn't even anticipate in the first one.
What was important to me was we find a way to take these pop icons, these mythic characters
that everybody knows and translate it so that Gotham feels like a place in our world.
It's meant to feel quite grounded.
Apparently it's never going to go fully fantastical.
Until he completes a trilogy and then they get another guy in and then it's Clayface and Mr. Freeze all day.
James Gunn said this week, and it was just a passing comment, that like,
if you made a Batman Superman movie, what would you call it?
And he said he'd call it World's Finest or whatever.
That's where all the fantastical stuff will land.
I would say then, and I've said this before, it doesn't look like they're going to roll this into the DCU if this is the Batman.
But it wouldn't put it past me if they did a Clayface or a Mr. Freeze, but they were
serial killers.
You know, they were just, it's the Clayface that's the guy in the mask.
Why so serial killer?
Why?
I am a bit like, we kind of, we did this, this was the Dark Knight trilogy, and like,
what it's gonna be, the Penguin again, and Two-Face.
Wow, you've turned on this universe.
I mean, it's a great movie.
And then you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
It's I don't know.
Yeah, whatever you can have.
Do you know?
Of everything.
I don't actually know.
Also this week, speaking of tangentially related, the Batman news, Barry Kiyogan
confirmed you pronounce his name Barry Kiyogan.
I do.
You do.
Okay, thanks.
Yeah, you do it. Yeah, that's right. He said, well done. Oh, did he? Yeah. Yeah. again. I do? You do. Okay thanks. Yeah you do it. Yeah
that's right he said well done. Oh did he? Yeah. Tell him I don't know him. Some people say it
without the G but he was like no I say it with a G. Tell him I don't know him. Oh you want me to?
Tell him when you say indexed I don't know him. Because I mean it would suggest like what he's
saying there about you would suggest he wants to maybe be friends or something with you and you
you're responding that you don't know him. Does he not know that I'm busy? You're not that busy. I'm busy enough
If he called me, I'll be like I'm busy
All right, I'd make an excuse if I didn't have something already on I'll tell him then like if I did it something or whatever
I just okay. What's your bunch of a wizard of Oz fucking movies for whatever reason? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, don't worry about it
All right. I'll tell him. I'll tell him. Okay. I'll tell him you don't know
That's what I want him to know. All right. All right.
Is that, anyway, he said he might be the Joker. Is that what you were going to say?
Yeah. He said, well, he said, no, it was mostly the pronunciation thing. Oh. But he did say, yeah, we'll see. We'll see about that.
Yeah. I'd say he probably is. Yeah.
Anyway, speaking of Joker Folie a Dieu debuted at the Venice Film Festival.
A Joker Folie a Dieu debut. You're going to love this.
How are the reviews for the Joker Folie a Dieu review? We'll get to that, but first we're going to talk about the debuted at the Venice Film Festival. A Jokafoliette Dew debut? You're gonna love this. How are the reviews for the Jokafoliette Dew review?
We'll get to that, but first we're gonna talk about the length of the standing ovation.
Oh yeah, now for people who don't know this, you go to your Cannes movie festival and the
movie's on.
Get on your feet.
The movie finishes, you get on your feet.
Get on your feet.
You're applauded for an insane amount of time.
A truly mind-boggling amount of time.
One came out this week that was applauded for 17 minutes.
Which one was that?
I don't know.
According to-
Oh, it might have been The Brutalist or something?
Oh, is that the one that goes for like four and a half years?
Yeah, it's the one that they're like, it's the one that people are already reviewing
by going, it's Megalopolis but good. This is actually the thing that Francis Ford Coppola
wanted to make.
Yeah, someone else did it saying, yeah.
Yeah, young guy who's talented.
Yeah.
He's not crook. That we know about. Yeah, someone else did it. Yeah, young guy is talented. Yeah, he's not crook that we know that we know about currently. Mason, according to variety, Joker
Folly, which is to say, folks, if it gets less than like, like movies, if five minutes
is nothing, five minutes, like five minutes, five minutes, it means that Kevin Costner
was there and they're obligated in real life. If you applauded for five minutes, your hands
would be in pain and you'd be like,
why are we applauding this long?
This is crazy.
Is this the modern equivalent of that dancing disease where everybody got dance mania and
they danced until they died?
Are we going to clap until they die?
Oh my god, that's not.
This is crazy.
But in Cannes, if you applaud for five minutes, you just watched a real turkey.
So how long did...
You watched a turd slide down that screen.
That's right. You watched turd sliders.
I got into a variety. Joker got his groove back, received an 11 minute standing ovation.
Okay, all right.
And apparently I've got here and nobody even checked their phones. I would have checked my phone.
Yeah, absolutely.
The Hollywood Reporter though, saying that it went for 10.5 minutes.
Deadline timed it at 12.5 minutes.
So well, okay.
Well, somebody's starting the clock early there.
Yeah.
Here's some reviews though.
You're interested?
Sure.
The Raps, William Bibarni praised the movie for being genuinely a little daring,
genuinely a little challenging, and genuinely a little genuine.
IndieWise David L. Rich said,
Jokafolia Do feels like it's bad on purpose.
A fascinatingly lifeless troll of a movie designed to anger fans
and bore everyone else.
It's complete waste of Lady Gaga.
It's complete waste of Lady Gaga is worse than any of Joker's crimes.
Hollywood reporter David Rooney says, narratively a little thin and at times dull.
And Empire magazine's Josh Nugent said, in a cinematic climate saturated by superheroes,
supervillains and even Jokers, there were 1.3 actors simultaneously in the role. Phillips, Phoenix and now Gaga have fashioned a genuinely original narrative,
even if it's, even in its obvious magpie nest borrowing.
Well, that's all great. But what does Rotten Tomatoes have to say? What is their figure?
Is it, oh hang on, is it current? Are you looking at it?
I can.
I can do it. I think it was fresh last time I saw.
Nice. It's good to be fresh.
It's great to be fresh. You got to be.
I'm trying to Google who got a 17 minute standing good to be fresh. It's great to be fresh. You gotta be fresh.
I'm trying to Google who got a 17 minute
standing ovation this week at Cannes,
but somebody's tweeted a few weeks ago,
a couple of months ago,
after garnering the fourth longest clock
vertical applause in Cannes, 17 minutes.
Vertical applause.
I don't know what that is.
2016 horror thrill of the neon demon grossed
3.1 million dollars worldwide.
Oh, the neon thing.
So it's no guarantee of.
Absolutely, it means jack shit.
But one did recently.
Joker's got 61% on Rotten Tomatoes, which means it's fresh.
I would say...
Certified fresh baby!
I would say, based on these reactions, that it's gonna go down.
Right.
The critic scores, at least.
I don't know...
The haters' scores, James.
I don't think people are gonna like this.
I think the musical element, I think...
Apparently it's a lot of it's a courtroom drama.
Like there's going to be some characters that show up, but they don't do the thing they're supposed to do.
They're not going to do any spoilers. I think it's like Mr. Fraser is going to freeze anybody.
I think it's not going to fully commit to the musical element and have Illinois people, but it will also be too much of a musical for other people.
I think this is going to not be received well.
It was Pedro Amoldovar's movie this week. It got 17 minutes. of a musical for other people. I think this is going to not be received well.
It was Pedro Amoldovar's movie this week.
It got 17 minutes.
That's too long.
What is it?
I don't know.
Yeah, but he did that, didn't he?
Yeah.
There's cool people involved, I think.
Are you excited for Joker 2?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, man.
All right.
Just try not to go in like a hater.
Okay. Try. Okay. You don't have to. I'll try. You can hate. Yeah. Yeah, great. Um, you know what? What can't what it's apparently pronounced can kiss. Yeah, no.
cans
Tilda Swinton and Julianne Morin. So there you go.
Very good.
What I was gonna say is that what Cannes needs
is for somebody to create an incredible movie
that is worthy of their insane applause.
Oh.
You know, just all you have to do
is make an incredible movie.
Is he?
And then when people start applauding, you're there.
Yeah.
The movie's ended and they've started applauding.
You can feel it building and then just go,
guys, stop.
Or just walk out. Just leave.
And then the spell will be broken and people will be like,
oh, we don't have to do this.
This is stupid.
You're right.
You need a true visionary.
You need a visionary.
That person sounds like it could be you.
I think it might be me.
I mean, you could make a good movie.
Yeah, I'm making that remake of Turd Sliders.
A remake already?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what we do now.
You know?
It's broken up into 40 parts for TikTok.
Oh, that's really good.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
All right, should we talk about the movie we're talking about this week?
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Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, it's the long-
Don't say his name again.
Don't say it a third time.
Yeah.
Because of magic.
Yep, yep, yep.
Because of magic and so forth.
Yeah, it's uh, it's in, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. On a budget of $100 million.
Okay.
The US opening weekend.
A cheapie.
Yeah, I guess.
The US opening weekend for this is $90 to $95 million.
Doing all right.
It's doing really well.
But I mean, don't bother because it'll be on streaming in a month.
Yeah.
If you know that.
It's October, they're going to stream it.
They said that already.
Yeah, it's happened already.
They announced that already.
It's coming to streaming in October.
Yes, good.
Don't bother. Don't worry about it. Teach him a lesson. Don't bother.
Yeah, don't even keep the box office running. Don't let it make its money back.
Forget it.
Yeah, forget it. It doesn't matter.
Now before we ask you what you think the story was.
Before we ask.
Before both of us ask. It's the royal way.
Oh, okay.
We, this week, watched the original Beetlejuice. I'd never seen it.
So I'm like, I'm going to go watch this movie. And it's a fucking blast,ice. I've never seen it. I'm gonna go watch this movie and it's a fucking blast
It is I never seen it. I was like how the Beetlejuice sucks by the way. Look at oh, yeah. Yeah
He's a little toned down in this new one. I think so
Yeah, it's it's a real oddity and I think also not just like because it's of an era
I think it still feels really fresh now. Yeah
Yeah, because it is so unhinged from reality
Yeah, it doesn't rely on because it's a Tim Burton world. It doesn't rely on oh, he is you know
We don't see enough. We don't see a lot of
America in the 80s. No, it's just a weird
Everything it's a weird pocket and everything's off kilter and yeah, it's mostly set in a small town or weird afterlife
Yeah, I think it's kind of the story is kind of rambling and silly and like nonsensical and
there's like the bureaucracy to the afterlife is kind of really fun and kind of Monty Python
and all kind of Hitchhiker's Guide, that kind of thing.
I think a lot of the visuals in like later Tim Burton films, they really fall down because
the elements that he goes for, they don't translate into CGI.
So I think that's what's been missing on a lot of the newer stuff.
Whereas if you look at his ideas from back then, they're implemented in such a way with
like practical effects and stop motion and very rudimentary green screen.
It's just, it's really like a wonderful kind of blend.
Now let me ask you this James, would you say people have to watch that to watch the new
one? I would say almost certainly.
Interesting.
Because it's way better.
And I didn't dislike this.
Yeah, right, right.
But I think it's actually, I wouldn't say it's not great, but I think there's a lot
of things that I wouldn't have known.
Or maybe I would have enjoyed this more if I hadn't seen the original, because I would
have been like, this is some cool fresh ideas in this original Beetlejuice
and whatever in this new Beetlejuice that weren't in the other ones.
Again, not to say that I didn't enjoy it because I think there's a lot of elements that do
work but what do you think the story was?
Oh, come on, mate.
All right.
So there's a lot to get through here.
Okay.
So the first movie, Winona Ryder plays Lydia Dietz, who's a teenage girl.
She moves into a house with her parents, Catherine O'Hara and a guy who got cancelled for his real life sex crimes.
It sucks, look it up.
Anyway, they want to live in this house, but Alec Baldwin and Gina Davis are haunting the
house because they bought the house and then they died.
But they're bad at haunting houses.
So they go-
How good's that be when she pulls her face off?
Did you see that?
James, I saw the movie. I did see it. How could I miss it?
Did you watch the whole original one? Yeah.
Incredible. That's some of those effects. Sorry, go on.
All right. Anyway, so they're bad at haunting because they knew it being dead.
They don't know.
But Lydia can see ghosts, by the way. Nobody else. In this world, most people can't see
ghosts, but she can see ghosts. Anyway, so Baldwin and Davis go to sort of limbo afterworld and they hire Betelgeuse,
who is like a reverse exorcist.
He haunts living people out of houses.
And then he shows up in the real world.
Or he says he does.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
And then he falls in love with Lydia and he's like, I'm going to marry her.
And then he gets eaten by a big worm.
Yep.
Um, but he's so, but, but the, so between then and now Lydia got married.
Yep.
She had a kid who is, um, General Otago.
Yep.
And then she got divorced.
No husband died.
No, I think they got divorced first.
Uh, she got divorced, then he died.
Then General Otago went to boarding school and then
Lydia got a gig on TV and now she's famous because she has a ghost hunting show called Ghost House
Yeah, put it on a second pass on that title if you ask me and now she is dating her producer who's slimy Justin Theroux
Yes, and now
everybody has to go back to the town from the first Beetlejuice because her
father, Catherine O'Hara's husband, he has died also.
Yes, that's right. So they're going to all come back.
And he died because they couldn't put in the movie because he's a crook bloke in real life.
Correct, yes. Look it up.
Yeah. Yeah, I think Michael Keaton is just, he's firing all cylinders in this, I think.
Well, here's the thing as well, because I've gotten to that point in the plot.
He's not in it that much either.
Well, he's not in the previous one, that's what I mean.
But I also read an interview where he's like,
yeah, I said in this new one I should be in it as little as possible.
And part of it was like, well, yeah, that does...
Attracts, attracts.
That's in service for the first one, because he's like, well, well, you know, the, the power of the character is only in it.
He's not overwhelming in it or whatever, but it also tracked with Michael Keaton
currently taking as much money to do as little as possible.
And I say, get that bag of Michael Keaton.
Absolutely.
Don't have to look him up currently.
As far as I know.
That's what we think.
Yep.
But like I got to that point in the plot where I'm describing the plot and then I'm like,
well, what does happen then in in this movie too many things?
Well, it's it this movie doesn't really have like a central plot going it really has
Three or four so there's lots that's and some of them
Like intertwine and at least one of them you could cut out and nobody would notice. Yeah, so Monica Belushi is
Original Beetlejuice's wife you find out a bit about his backstory
He's now back and wants to suck his soul out. Yes for revenge for revenge
Willem Dafoe is investigating her because he is a he is he's in he's in the afterlife
He was a an actor in real life who played a TV detective and in
the afterworld he is a real detective. Yes. Of a sort. That's right. He's having a good
time. He is. General Taga has a new boyfriend and that goes places which we'll talk about
in spoilers. And also Lydia is getting married to Justin Theroux. Oh, and the husband died
earlier on. And I think like you said, a lot of these
storylines do actually come together at the end. But it's too many things. I think the trailer
sells it like it's the Monica Belushi thing. Like that's the key thing.
You're saying Belushi? Like Jim Belushi?
Like Jim Belushi. What's that? Belucky?
Beluchi.
Beluchi. Yes. But it's not really about that.
Well, she is, I would say she has, she is the most interesting visual effect.
Yes.
If you know what I mean, vavavum.
But what I actually mean is that when we first encounter that character, she has been put in a bunch of trunks.
She's been cut into bits.
Yeah.
And her introduction to us is she sort of tumbles out of all the boxes and she
reassembles herself with a stapler and I think that speaks to the look of the character.
But you could cut that character out completely and it wouldn't make any difference.
She is in the background for most of the movie.
She's a character that is sort of vaguely around.
You know she's going to turn up again at some point.
If she does but to turn up again at some point. But you could.
She does but to no real.
Yeah but it doesn't matter and it's because she and Tim Burton are boyfriend and girlfriend
in real life.
Oh.
And so that's why she's in this movie I'm pretty sure.
Well that makes sense.
Because you could, I watched the timeline of her career and she's done a lot of great
movies.
Yeah.
But she's like oh Tim asked me to do this and she said, he said you'd be a key character
in this and I'm like, oh honey, you are not.
You are not.
Which is a great look and a great scene with Danny DeVito or whatever.
Well I was going to say, I was going to leave that to spoilers but.
Sure.
I mean he's barely in it.
Well that's what I'm saying.
It's interesting that we get a very famous, very well-beloved actor who has worked with Tim Burton before and has worked with Michael Keaton before.
But you didn't put a scene...
Oh yeah, they were both in Batman Returns and in Dumbo.
Yes.
You don't put them in a scene together?
No.
Interesting.
No, you don't.
I forgot about it.
I completely forgot about that.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
I think...
Maybe they had fun on set. Maybe don't know. Maybe they did.
Or they were on separate days.
Catherine O'Hara is great.
Always funny, always fun.
Yeah, always.
She can do screaming funny, but she can also do very understated funny.
Like funny reading the phone book funny.
Yes.
I also think Justin Theroux is, I was going to say an underrated comedic actor, but people
know him as a comedic actor, right?
I think so, yeah.
He's done like more dramatic parts more recently, but he has a background like in comedy.
Yeah.
And I think that comes across here. I think he's very like slick and insincere and gross and self-absorbed.
And I like that.
They've given him the precise tint of fake dark hair.
Yeah.
Like it does not look natural in any...
I think it's a wig.
Could be a wig. I think it's a wig. Could be a wig.
I think it's a wig. Very unnatural. Yeah. It's weird because also Jeffrey Jones, who
is the guy who dies, who's a pedophile in real life and that's why he's not in this,
he was a principal in Ferris Bueller. He's not in this, the actor. But his likeness is.
But his likeness is. Do they have to pay for that? I guess and the character itself gets quite a lot of play and it just it feels strange
that you would roll with that character so...
Ollie's here.
To agree.
That you would roll with that character so much.
Why did you come in here at the mention of Geoffrey Jones?
Don't you think it's strange?
Yeah it is yeah.
To lean into that part.
And there's also an interesting part where because we see we see him we see his picture in a you know
in a at the funeral and yeah, we he's the character I won't give away how the character died, but
It's we see it in claymation. Yeah, essentially all visual effects. It's it's either CGI that looks like claymation or it's claymation
I don't know. Yeah, but um, yeah like an interesting instead of filming with that actor
they've they've gone,
let's have a flashback where we see how he died and it's in claymation.
And these pictures in it a lot.
Yeah.
You see his grave a lot and whatever.
Yeah.
So yeah, I don't know.
I just thought that was strange.
Yeah.
I think Winona Ryder and Jenna Ortega are a good mother daughter team.
They're great.
Yeah.
Yep.
No complaints.
Gothing it up.
Gothing it up. Both of gothic it up. Even though
they're both not goth. But I guess, yeah, the plot here is, yeah, we've got the Monica Bellucci
thing. You're saying Bellucci? Yeah, I'm saying Jim Bellucci. Monica Jim Bellucci. Go on. Yeah.
According to Monica, Jim Bellucci. That sitcom we all loved. It's a good one. And the other one,
yeah, like you said, there's the Winona Ryder, Lydia, she can talk, she
can see ghosts, but she can't see her husband.
Yeah.
And the daughter's like, well, you're a crank and they're a strange.
So that they got to rebuild that relationship.
Yeah.
Can they do it via ghosts maybe and running around?
Maybe.
I think what I mean, I think the strength of this movie is that I was never bored by it because
it's just this funny world we're back in and there's a lot of running around in this weird
bureaucracy and there's a lot of funny background characters and a lot of people who've died
in horrendous ways and they're waiting in the afterlife for tickets.
I don't think it's as funny as the original one. And a lot of the jokes that do work and the universe building stuff is things that we'd
already seen.
Yeah.
You know, like the very creative elements.
That's not to say there's not new good jokes in it because there are.
I think visually it's interesting.
The fact that a lot of it seems practical or stop motion or the very least very convincing
CGI made to look like stop motion or the very least, least very convincing CGI made to look
like stop motion or practical sets and all of that. I think it doesn't fall into that
weird slick Tim Burton, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory kind of fucking thing that he's been
doing. I think having almost like forcing him to go back to that is really-
I wonder where the call was made there.
Like did he, does he have a production or a producer?
Because it's all his, it's all the old, I don't know how long he's been using his old
producers but like, is it Alfred Gow and Miles Miller and what have you?
Because they worked on Batman with him and they worked on the original Beetlejuice.
Batman!
Yeah, exactly.
I'm wondering if, I'm just just gonna double check to see if they've
worked with him on like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and stuff. Isn't that a good movie? No
it's almost a good movie I think personally. Except for that one thing. Yeah. There's a couple of
musical numbers the one at the end I didn't really care for goes for too long. But there's a produced by Mark Tobaroff seems like a face note, fake name or a
face note. Sounds like a pun, but I don't know what the pun is. Mark Tobaroff,
I barely know him.
He's an intellectual property attorney specializing in copyright and
entertainment litigation. Yeah. He's your euro. I was going to say dad,
but your dad is Bob Iger. Yeah, that's a good one we did. Um, I thought the,
so there's a soul train musical number, which I thought was fun.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
And that was good.
Should we do some spoilers?
Let's do some spoilers.
Best movie ever.
I think people are saying this is like The Force Awakens of Betelgeuse.
Oh, okay.
Which is like, yeah, it's not incorrect.
But I don't think it's terrible.
I think there's enough in here.
I certainly don't think it's terrible, no.
You can have a pretty good time if you're a fan.
Just even like revisiting this world in a similarish fashion.
You know?
Absolutely.
I've been enjoying seeing them do all their press tours.
Yeah.
Winona Ryder loves movies.
Yeah, she loves them.
Well, I love movies too.
I got a movie podcast.
Yeah, well.
If it was a competition, I reckon I'd love movies also.
Interesting. If it was a competition, which it I'd love movies also. Interesting.
If it was a competition, which it's not, because if it was I would win.
Against Winona Ryder, famous lover of movies.
I love movies.
Spoilers?
Yes.
Best movie ever?
Yes, I think it's the best movie ever, yeah.
So you could cut out, I think we said you could cut out Mono Kabaluchi's entire thing.
She's just kind of floating around in the background until she gets eaten by a sandworm at the end.
Yeah.
Like original food.
And what are the other ones? Okay. So.
Ah, the ghost, the boyfriend ghost is a serial killer kid.
Yeah. I mean, that was, we kind of saw that in Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. Remember?
Yeah. But that she wasn't an evil ghost.
She was evilish.
Was she?
Yeah. Maybe she was going to betray the Ghostbusters.
Oh yeah, but then she didn't. Then she didn, maybe she was gonna betray the oh, yeah
But then she didn't and she didn't but this guy did a full psycho. Yeah. Yeah, where do I know him from?
Great question. Yes, isn't it though?
I'm just looking at the Joker to thing. Oh, yeah. Nice. His name's Arthur Conti
Okay, he's cool. He's wearing sunglasses in some of these pictures. He's British.
What do you think of that?
What?
I don't like that.
He was very American coded.
He's born in 2004.
That's too young.
He's born in Camden.
Oh, Camden.
Oh, he's in House of the Dragon.
You get your gear at Camden, Mark.
Oh, he's in House of the Dragon.
That's right.
I don't see that.
Which one is he?
Wait, is House of the Dragon the one they didn't make? I don't know. I don't see that. That's which one to say The way does house the dragon the one they didn't make you don't know. No, no this
The Wikipedia page says of of Charles Dietz Jeffrey Jones character
The character's death was inspired by a nightmare of Burton's about his own death. No, it wasn't Tim Burton
It was inspired by all the crimes he did. Oh
And you had to get rid of him you couldn't put him him in the movie. I know, House of Dragon is the one that's still running. I just forgot. Because there was
a Naomi Watts one that didn't happen. I have seen both of those seasons, but I forgot what
it was called, which speaks to it. Anyway, so he wants to swap with General Tegas so
he can come back in the real world and kill his parents and whatever.
Yeah, he's not a cool dude. I didn't make that twist.
You think he's a cool artsy dude, but actually he killed his parents many years ago when
he was alive and then the cops showed up and he died.
So now he needs a living person to go with him in the afterlife and then they'll stamp
some passports and he can go back to the real world because otherwise he can't leave his
house.
I did liken this that, like I guess the bit in the first movie, Beetlejuice is somewhat
working for good at one point. Because he knows all the tricks and whatever, he knows all the loopholes in the first movie, Beetlejuice is somewhat working for good at one point. You know, because he knows all the tricks and whatever, like he knows all the loopholes
in the afterlife. So if he's on your side, he's kind of a handy person in a jam. I enjoyed
that. I didn't like at the end, it just had the wedding again. Like it was, and there
was a musical number, but it wasn't as good as the day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just kind of,
there was a recurring motif of the Cake in the Rain song.
All right.
All right.
I don't know, I've never understood that song.
I don't understand the concept.
Cake in the Rain.
Yeah, okay, great.
I thought Willem Dafoe was also really good in this.
He's having a great time.
Yeah.
Love the makeup on him.
Yeah.
The exposed brain and...
Yeah.
I mean, you know, and it's sort of, ostensibly he's looking for Monica Bellucci's character
because of all her, because she's sucking out people's souls and what-have-you
Yeah, but really he's just sort of there to he could have been investigating anything. Yeah, I've been investigating
the fact that
Winona Ryder and general Tager and were in the afterlife for yeah
He's also investigating that the all the the the weird office drones have escaped in the real world
Yeah, it's that so it again it felt like a kind of a weird reshoot that he's chasing Dolores.
Yeah, they could really add because the all she really does is the scene where she sucks
out Danny DeVito's soul and the dry cleaner's soul.
Yeah.
And some of the shrunken head guy or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it is what it is.
I did like the soul sucking effect, but they all get squished up. It was fun. Yeah. And it is what it is. I did like the soul sucking effect where they all get-
Yeah, they get squished out like a little accordion.
It was fun, yeah.
Do you want some reviews here from people who have written in?
Yes.
This is from The Dreamer. It says,
Hey James and Mesa just saw Beetlejuice 2 and had fun with it. It was weird and grubby.
Willem Dafoe was chewing some scenery and Catherine O'Hara is a blessing. Best movie ever.
The Home Video Update podcast says, well, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice was great fun,
light breezy
and very back to basic Bert and literally cried with tears laughing at one point.
Yes, it's flawed and the villains had little to do, but it's still best movie ever.
And Rob says, it isn't quite up to up there with the original, but it's still enough
there and the film definitely navigates an issue of a certain missing patriarch.
Keaton knows this character so well.
Best movie ever. I don't disagree with any of that.
It's all pretty... Isn't that the magic of movies, James? People can have different opinions and
some of them are valid. Ours more so than anyone's. I've seen more movies in Winona Ryder,
I reckon too. That's true. I don't know that. I reckon she watches two movies a day. That's
because she doesn't work that hard. I work hard. Mason, should we move on to the next segment of the show?
Let's move on to it.
What's it called?
It's called What We Readin'.
What else is it called?
What We Gonna Read.
You're right.
I'm doing the thing.
What are we reading today?
Let's turn it out, James.
Let's turn it out.
This is the segment of the show where we talk about things we've been watching, reading
or listening to.
That's right.
Here, I'll go.
I watched this show, first couple episodes are out of a show called English Teacher,
which is that from the mind of Brian Jordan Alvarez, it's about a high school English
teacher, Evan, who finds himself out at the intersection of professional, political, and
personal aspects of his working life.
I really enjoyed it.
It's really funny.
Is this on the Disney Plus Jones?
It is, yes.
I think it's a Stars show or Mac.
Yeah, Hulu or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what it is here. It's kind of a bit
scrubbed. It's also eastbound and down. I just think, I thought it was just really funny and
kind of fresh and interesting. And him in particular, well, no, everyone's good in it,
but he makes a really like, charismatic and funny lead. What's he, but he's done, was he,
is he an internet guy? Yeah, he's an internet he, but he's done, was he, is he an internet guy?
Yeah, he's an internet guy, but he has done some other stuff.
Is he the potion seller guy?
What's the potion seller guy?
Is it like an internet video?
I don't know.
Okay.
I like his YouTube channel though.
He hasn't done much lately,
but he's got some fun skits on there and whatever that go up.
He's been doing that for years.
He also does a really-
No, I'm not thinking of, I'm thinking of a different guy.
The potion seller guy is Justin Kuritskis.
What are you saying? What's his name?
Brian Jordan Alvarez.
So he also does an incredible Melbourneian accent.
He's the guy who's like...
Is he the guy that does videos where he's got a really weird face
and he's like, I've been doing heaps. I've been doing heaps of lifting.
Is it that guy?
No, I don't know.
I think he might be.
He might have.
Yes. I just he might be.
He might have.
Yes.
I just want to find a...
Okay, so listen to this guy.
Listen to this Australian accent.
It is this guy.
Hang on.
Wait, I'm on mute.
Oh, you goose.
I'm muted my computer.
You absolutely...
Does anybody care about this anyway?
Yes.
It's about how my Aussie accent's really good.
Here's the thing. I'm from Australia.
Excellent. Yeah.
Imperceptible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to find one where he's doing, he's doing a voice where he's like,
like a Byron Bay health influencer. Oh, yeah. He's doing heaps of lifting. Yeah. That's the guy I'm thinking of. Anyway, doesn't matter.
Okay. Terrific stuff. Anyway, it's good. I recommend it people have seen the whole season apparently it's very good
So yeah, I also read Avengers versus aliens. Tell me about it. Okay, so I don't come in with a creative team
I can look that up. It's probably Stanley and Stanley again. It's probably Stanley and Steve Ditko. Yeah, Stanley and Steve Ditko.
So it's basically it's a there's a capsule of xenomorphs that land on Earth. Oh, that's kind of a normal Earth.
It's Jonathan Hickman. I love Jonathan Hickman. And Saad Rubik. Basically there's a capsule of xenomorphs that land on Earth. Oh. That's kind of- A normal Earth?
It's Jonathan Hickman.
I love Jonathan Hickman.
And Saad Rubik.
They did Secret Orders.
They did.
And basically it's like 30 or 40 years after that.
So everybody's all old and burnt out and the Earth is done.
And so that's where it starts.
So hang on, so the aliens land and then 30 years passes.
I can't remember when they flash back to it or whatever. Anyway, so this is not an else world story. This is
like a what if. Basically, yeah. This is not in continuity. So it's pointless me reading
it. No, no, no. Anyway, it's great. Okay. It was really, really cool. And it wasn't
just what if the Avengers ran into some aliens or whatever. It's this whole kind of world
fleshed out
that's not the thing that I thought it was just going to be.
I was like, okay, we'll see how this is like, but it's great.
Really enjoyed it.
I might come back to it, talk about some other weeks.
But I am going to England and straight Edinburgh for a little bit.
Anyway, what's next?
I watched a movie on Netflix and I'm going to recommend it, if you can believe that.
Oh, yeah.
Have you heard about Rebel Ridge? Rebel Moon?
No.
Which the directors can't have the regular cut.
None of those. The director is Jeremy Solnier who directed Green Room.
Oh I like Green Room.
Remember that, it's the Nazi, it's a-
I didn't like that aspect of it.
Well yeah, I didn't like that either.
Okay cool.
But it's about, that movie's about a band who get stuck in a green room,
in a place full of Nazis.
Yeah.
It's got Patrick Stewart and Anthony Elchin.
But this is a movie.
It's starring Aaron Pierre and also Don Johnson and a couple other people.
James Cromwell's in it.
See, I see movies come up on Netflix and my first response is no.
And so I've seen this but I thought it would be a bad thing.
I bet. But basically it's about a guy, he's gone through a small town. He's got a bail out his buddy
He's in jail. So he's got like his life savings in cash. Okay, and the police stop him and they're like
What are you doing with this cash? Yes, we're gonna take it. Oh, they shouldn't. Yeah, right. That's illegal
He's getting he's got he's got a bit. He's they know it's illegal to do that. They do know that and they do it anyway
Come on, man. Yeah. yeah, exactly. It's ordinary.
But I would say it's a tort thriller and it looks good.
Yep.
And some good action.
It's not action all the way through, but it's a...
But it's a tort thriller.
It's a tort thriller.
Is there action all the way through?
No, but it's a tort thriller.
Yeah?
Yeah.
So, all right, if you want action all the way through, I can't deliver that for you.
Okay.
But if you're after a tort thriller.
I am, actually.
And there you go. With action all the way through.
No, James, you're not listening to me.
Would you say it's more akin to the movie Expendables 4 or Expendables 2?
Probably more Expendables 2 because of the James Cromwell element.
You know?
Yeah.
It's got more, Expendables 2 has a more of a James Cromwell vibe to it, doesn't it?
He's not in it. No. Yeah. Don't you think it's weird that James Cromwell vibe to it. Doesn't it? He's not in it
No, yeah, I think it's weird that James Cromwell still alive. I don't think that's weird. No
No, no, no, cuz he's in Hollywood and he's got evil Hollywood magic and he's probably evil. Oh, he's only 84
Yeah, see there you go only. Yeah. Anyway good stuff Mason. It is we do the next segment of the show
Computer runs out of battery. Yeah
But anyway Aaron Pierre is the main guy and he's really good. I think I am 100% gonna check that out
I am taking a plane to Europe. Yeah, so maybe I'll watch it then
Yeah, yeah, and I think why is it a bit crook if someone look over and be like, what are you watching?
No, I don't think so. Okay, cool. But um, but I think maybe you'll get off that plane
You'd be like hey, maybe cops aren't as cool as I thought they were
No, but I'll rip off your cops are cool t-shirt.
You know that one?
Yeah, but I think cops are super duper cool.
So it won't knock it all the way back to me.
You'll still think it's pretty cool.
You'd still be able to wear the shirt.
So I think that's thank God.
Mason, what's the next segment of the show?
Next segment of the show, if you can even believe it.
Yeah, I can believe it.
It's letters. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you, some letters, they're only a day
away. We're not here right now, we're gonna do letters. Now we're gonna have to pause
so I can get some letters. That's right. Well, before you do that, I just want to say I think
it was last week or maybe it was the week before where I, you asked me or came up, how old is my phone?
Oh yes.
Did that go off?
Yeah, something.
And I was like, I don't know.
I think it's like a 13 or something.
Yeah.
Anyway, I went to get a new case for the other day.
I don't know what it is.
I'm like, do you have a case for this?
And she went, ugh.
What the fuck is that?
She goes, it's an 11 apparently, which is only, I just looked up only five years old
by the way.
And so she directs me to like three phone cases that have the bottom of the shelf.
Right. I like it. She went, are you editorializing it?
It was okay. There wasn't a verbal noise, but it was like a 11. It was like that 11.
Okay. Yeah. It's an 11. Apparently.
Did that also carry with it an implication that you are old?
I don't think so. That's not something that I don't think.
Cause you are old.
No, no one would even perceive that.
Interesting. Cause I'm perceiving it currently.
Are you?
Yeah.
But I'm younger than you.
Well.
I mean I look older.
But you are wearing Justin Theroux's wig from.
That is true. And my t-shirt that says I think constable.
Constable.
Anyway, we're going to pause it for a bit while my son goes through the letters.
Well, while we paused there, we came up with an incredible character.
It was what if Steve Urkel was Eric Cartman.
Oh yes.
Do you remember?
No, I don't.
It was like, you know, that.
See, this James is something that does not work at all on the podcast.
What are you talking about?
Why are we both only...
It only works in real life, James.
I don't know why you...
And I feel like what we do off the podcast is very clearly off the podcast material
that only works because we've been recording for like four hours at this point of various
things.
Okay, yeah, I agree with you.
I would also argue it doesn't work in the real world.
It only works in this room before not recording.
Correct.
Would you agree with that?
I would agree with that.
But no one else could be in here.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
If we had a guest or something.
Just us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We wouldn't be we wouldn't sit down like Alexi Toliopoulos.
And introduce our new character.
And be like, here's also our new character.
You did it.
You were doing the voice.
I was doing the voice.
Yeah, that's correct.
Anyways, if you do want to reach the show, you can hashtag weekly planet pod on Twitter.
Normally I've been putting threads of the great mates I did this week, but I'll try
and do that more.
Or you can email Mason at weekly planet pot at cheap
Maybe with a couple maybe if you want us to do a mashup impression. No Wow cuz we could try them
No, we can't okay time off it. Yeah, I'll fit
Yeah, just in this room find the best one and then we'll debut that one agree. Okay. What are we doing?
What do we got? This is from William William. Ah now you said we may have covered this before
Yeah, but maybe we'll have different answers now. Dear James and Mace, this YouTuber has been
attempting to cook and eat every last meal request from those given the death penalty.
Oh, very good. That got me thinking. What would your guys last meal be? Thank you for your time,
Sincerely William from Harrisburg. Thank you for your time, Sincerely William. There's two.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, two of those. I don't know. Do you want to go like a like a like go out on like a lobster? What do you think they're going to provide
like a good lobster in a prison? Or they shoot you full of electricity or whatever?
Or a needle full of electricity, whatever they do these days. Yeah. See, that's interesting
because do you want to go with something you know will be good? Yeah. Or you're like, is
this the moment to try something? I saw somebody making a sandwich this weekend. It was a lobster mac and cheese burger. So it was lobster mac and cheese
on top of steak in a burger. And I'm like, hell yeah. But do you want to try that? You want to do
that for your last meal? And then you're like, oh, I should have just had spaghetti bolognese.
Yeah. That's what I mean. Do you order you order like a Big Mac or whatever, you know?
No, you don't order a Big Mac.
Let's say, okay, let's say you can get anything and it is of the highest quality.
Yes.
Do you want to do a smash burger?
No, I don't want to do a smash burger.
What do you want to do then?
Do you want to do something home cooked from your childhood?
Like a boiled egg?
Yeah, like a wow.
Like a great-
I can get a boiled egg?
Yeah, like a gray boiled egg that's literally from your childhood. Yeah, like a gray boiled egg. That's literally from your childhood
No, thank you. I don't want that actually no, no, I wouldn't mind a lamb shank. Hmm
You know, I think we have somebody answered a question somebody asked a question a while back that was like if you were given
$500 what would you do with it? Yeah, and I basically said I just
$500 with like a big meal. I think maybe that's what we're confusing with or we did the last meal question before sure. Yeah. Yeah
I Like a big meal. I think maybe that's what we're confusing with. Or we did the last meal question before. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, I think it might be a lobster.
Okay.
Yeah. Big old.
Do you have to fight the lobster?
No.
Okay.
The prison guards have to fight it.
The best-
And then I skip away.
It's not free.
The best time I've, the best lobster I've ever had thrown into a fancy restaurant,
like 15 years ago in Ireland, which I couldn't really afford.
And there was a, they had a lobster.
So you ran out.
I ran out.
Yeah.
Uh, that's why you're, that's why you get out of money.
And that's why I ran out.
Um, and it was a lobster sausage.
Oh, very good.
Yeah.
That's hell boys friend lobster sausage.
That's true.
Well, hell boy this week, hell boy too for cow running garbage, which will continue.
That's going to continue while we're away.
I think I might want that lobster mac and cheeseburger though.
I'm going to do a lamb shank.
But here's the thing. The world as it is our oyster, we can go and get that right now.
That's true.
So maybe I should do that this week. I'll find a place that sells something like that.
Before you get in prison and then they put you on death row.
Yeah, yeah. I don't want to get that shank.
You can do it now.
Yeah, I should do it now.
Great. That question we already did. That's from It's Naith.
Or lasagna. Maybe I'd have a delicious lasagna with a bechamel sauce. I like we already did. That's from It's Nate.
Or lasagna. Maybe I'd have a delicious lasagna with a bechamel sauce.
I like a lasagna.
It's Nate said, hashtag weekly Planet Pod. Are you guys going to check out Robot Dreams?
It's been my favorite movie of this year. Do you guys plan on watching The Wild Robot?
No.
Mention that. Yes. I will. It's out while I'm away, but I'm going to go back and watch it with with my son. I think Dreamworks with the bad guys and Pussy Boots 2 have really been hitting it out of the park recently. Yeah, I agree.
I really like the book. The movie looks like it could be fun. And I do want to watch Robot Dreams.
I just haven't given it a chance yet.
What about Robot Chicken?
Oh, yeah.
You heard of that?
I'm here coming. I'm in Stamall.
Nice.
And I'm... Yeah, yeah, nice. It's good. Keep working on that. I'm here coming. I'm in Stamford. Nice. Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nice.
That's good.
Keep working on that.
Keep working on it?
What's the work on?
What are you talking about?
There's nothing to work on.
What do you mean?
I don't know, man.
I mean, it's good.
It's real good.
We both did it.
I mean, did we?
We both did it.
What's next, Mason?
You can cut any of that out as well.
Can I?
Yeah.
Good. I think I can. This is from David. I mean, did we? We both did it. What's next, Mason? You can cut any of that out as well.
Can I?
Yeah, good.
I think I can.
This is from David.
He says, Mr. Sunday Movies is a gateway drug.
Thank you.
Hey, James and Mace.
Long time listener, first time caller.
A couple of weeks ago, I had such a great time at Edinburgh Fringe and realized many of the
best acts I saw this year, I never would have discovered if not for you and your great mates.
Whoa, who'd you see?
Well, let's see. First, I saw your cancelled B never would have discovered if not for you any great Well, who'd you say? Well, let's see first
I saw you cancelled BBS animated YouTube video which made me check out the podcast
Let me to do go on super old auntie Donna gamey gamey game grouse house, etc
I'm from the UK. So thank you for getting me hooked on all the Australian podcast and comedy scene
Introducing me to all the Australians. I enjoyed it this year's festival. Michelle Brazier. Yeah, look out. That's right
Real old-fashioned I want to read I want to read it. She was recently on
Also A Strange Story, which I also haven't had the chance to watch yet. You get that book? Yeah.
It should be a global superstar, agreed. Mel and Sam, Grace Jarvis, Greg Larson, Bronwyn Cuss and the brilliant Hot
Department, possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen. God damn. Yeah, Hot Department, I don't know
personally, but they're a duo. Yeah. And they're there if Auntie Donna took all the safeties off, I would say.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Have you seen them?
Yeah, I have.
They're great movies.
I've never seen them live.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I haven't followed them.
They've followed me on Instagram.
Oh, they have a show.
I'm going to follow back.
They have a show called Dark Web on YouTube.
Yes, they do.
People should check that out.
It's very good.
Yeah.
That might be on Grouse House.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
It's a super old channel.
Anyway, so I know I've also seen Dugong live many times and even Auntie Donna. Yeah, that might be on Grouse House. I don't know. I don't know anyway.
So I know I've also seen Dugong live many times and even Auntie Donna.
Unfortunately, I'm away when James is in the UK.
So I'll have to keep waiting.
Well, you saw all the good stuff anyway.
Don't worry about it.
Thanks for the entertaining podcast.
Yeah, from David.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
You're very welcome.
This one is from Matt Young, who's incredible.
That's incredible design work at Oh My Design underscore on
various social media.
Oh yeah, of course.
He said, hashtag weekly Planet Pod, if Disney leave it long enough, what are your thoughts
on Lucasfilm giving Joseph Kaczynski a shot at rebooting the Requel reboot saga to start
a new sequel Star Wars trilogy?
I don't think they ever will, but I think it'd be a great choice if they ever did.
I think, you know, he did Tron Legacy, he did Top Gun too.
That's true, yeah.
And Tron Legacy isn't just Tron again.
It's better than the original Tron.
I agree. It's no Big Tron.
How fun is the character?
I'm Big Tron. Respect my Tron.
No, that's a character I can respect.
Respect my Tron machine. Where's my light sack, I'm good home.
You know?
That's what he would say.
Big Tron.
Yeah.
My home.
It's bits and bytes.
You know?
He would say that I think.
And I think that's cool actually.
And Top Gun Maverick is better than Top Gun.
So yeah, I think he would be a really good choice.
You could also just give him a Star Wars movie you know. That's true.
See what he does with it. Yeah. Thank you and that's all my letter. You're welcome.
You got any more? I got one more letter. One more day. Let's see. This is from Aaron.
Hey James, Mr. Sunday. That's correct. What up dog. This is Aaron writing in. You guys were
talking in the big sandwich comic book podcast about doing a Marvel comic. Good
one to do would be the Daredevil run by Chip Zdarsky from 2019.
Yes.
36 issues, but the first arc would be good to cover.
So that's for you, because you don't like doing long runs.
It's too long, 36.
I don't know whether I've read that,
or I've read some of it or all of it.
Aaron says it's one of the best Daredevil runs
up there with Frank Miller's, et cetera.
So for people that don't know, we do a bonus podcast
over on Big Sandwich called The Big Sandwich Classic
comic book club, where we talk about comic books, it's often we want to find like the classics and we find there's a lot of
DC stuff. Yes, like in a compact format
Yes, and a lot of maybe image stuff like limited, you know, like independent stuff, but we often find it tricky to find Marvel stuff
Yeah, I don't know why that is. Yeah, maybe we're just not looking hard
Sometimes that maybe the runs are too long and you yeah. Yeah. Yeah don't know why that is. Maybe we're just not looking hard enough. Sometimes maybe the runs are too long
and you gotta take a...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think that's great.
There's an X-Men run that I'd like to look at.
I'm a big fan of Chip Dziardzki.
Me too.
He's good at, he's one of those guys
I first learned about through comedic stuff.
Yes, sex criminals and the like.
And now he's been given, he's worked his way up to,
he's on Batman.
Yeah, exactly. And various other stuff, so I don't know. It's, you know, he's worked his way up to like, he's on Batman. Yeah, exactly.
So I don't know.
It's, you know, it's, if you're funny, maybe it's easy to transition to serious stuff.
So easy.
Very easy.
Easy.
Just do a, just do a, you can't win Steve Urkel impression and you are, you're on the
road to success.
You are going to have a great time with that.
Everybody use it this week.
Let us know how it goes.
That's right.
Do it at your school or church or place of work.
James, I have one more email.
Please.
It's from Joshua. Hey James, I may so. I've been listening to the podcast for probably 10 years now.
Yeah, that would be good.
Currently on paternity leave from work to help my wife out with their newborn son.
Congratulations.
You're welcome. Listening to the weekly panels keep me going through sleep deprivation,
all the chores and diaper changes.
Oh.
Yucky. I wouldn't.
Question. Now that Robert Downey Jr. is coming back to play another character in the same
franchise, do you think we're one step closer to someone green lighting a movie where the
same actor plays every character?
I don't mean in an in-universe way.
I mean like a vanity project where it's just to see if one actor can pull off playing every
single character in the movie.
Has anyone ever done that?
I don't know.
It feels like somebody would have.
Someone did it in a Roberts and Meckes movie or something.
I mean the closest we've got in recent memory is probably the movie Men. Yeah. But that's
an in-universe thing. It's a woman who sees every man in the town as the one guy and it's
Rory Kinnear. Yes. Did everybody? I'm Googling this and it's not. We often get the reverse like you remember
I'm not there. Where an actor plays no roles. Yeah, that's so true. Yeah. Eddie Murphy might be all of the clumps and whatever.
Oh, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, but they're all family. So I guess sure like the loop the thing is is that a
We've got to find someone who's deranged enough to be like no I can be everyone and you will never ever notice
Yeah, this's a serious stuff
Like I don't even would think it would count if it were a comedy
Yeah, it would have to be a drama where this person's like, yeah, I'm everybody in there
Yeah, okay, like we've gotten the rent. You remember I'm not there the Bob Dylan biopic. Yes
Yeah, everybody was Bob Dylan. Yeah, so you want that? Yeah
I want that with the same person pretending to be a different person playing Bob Dylan.
Easy! Why can't I just have that?
Why is everything so difficult?
There are a lot of examples of like Robert Zemeckis movies, the Polar Express, Tom Hanks plays multiple people, etc.
But I don't, off the top of my head in there...
But it also has to be like a big cast. It can't be like this movie has two people in it and the person plays the same, like
plays, yeah.
I'd be interested to know.
I'd be interested to know.
I'd be interested to know how you're going to wrap up this show actually.
I'm not.
Okay.
We're just going to end.
Great.
No, just kidding.
Folks, thank you so much for listening.
We absolutely appreciate it.
It was one of my funny jokes.
Wow.
Yeah, that's right.
Really paid off. I think so too. We absolutely appreciate it. It's one of my funny jokes. Wow. Yeah, that's right. Really paid off.
I think so too.
We absolutely appreciate it.
Thank you for subscribing.
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That's right.
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You can do it.
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If you do it, James will read one out.
I'm going to read two out now.
This one's from Jess KZ who says, great podcast. I love the podcast.
The only reason I'm writing this five star review is because I feel compelled to share
the news that director James Cameron was recently in my hometown of Duluth, Minnesota.
The Duluth News Tribune covered the story on August 8th and led with the fact that he
ordered clam chowder for dinner.
The quote from the owner was, he loved our clam chowder and said it was the best he'd
have since Sundance.
My question is what food do you love so much to continue ordering even after being used
to poison you?
Oh yeah, because he was poisoned on set.
I thought this was a bit.
Yeah, yeah.
Apparently is a thing that happened.
That's right.
Oh God.
No, once I'm poisoned by food, I can't ever go back to it.
I never go back to it.
In fact, what about you?
A linguine?
I could go back to a linguine.
Or a spaghetti. Yeah, I would go back to a spaghetti. Or a lasagna.? I could go back to a linguine. A spaghetti?
Yeah, I would go back to a spaghetti.
Or a lasagna?
I would definitely go back to a lasagna.
No, you have to have been at a bad experience.
I know!
And you have on all of those.
No, but I would.
You don't know that until you've done it.
I still can't eat mussels.
I had a terrible experience in 2008.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Okay.
Guess we'll never know.
We won't. Anyway, this one's from the hateful mate who says... Anyway, that's not the place for asking questions. 2008. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. Guess we'll never know.
We won't.
Anyway, this one's from the hateful mate who says...
Anyway, that's not the place for asking questions.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
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It's true, we are great blokes.
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But maybe also buy that exclusive T-shirt.
It will be there.
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I'm gonna bring a pen.
You bring a Sharpie.
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I will bring a Sharpie.
I've already got a Sharpie.
I'm gonna bring it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's good.
Yeah.
It's good.
All right.
Next week, nothing.
No, some bonus stuff probably.
That's right.
Yep.
We're figuring that out.
And yeah.
And we'll see you on the next something.
That's the spirit.
Isn't it?
Yeah, it is.
Goodbye everyone.
Right on, Jim.
You guys, we'll see you soon.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
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