The Weekly Planet - 548 Krypto the Superdog & Trailers Galore!
Episode Date: October 21, 2024It's a HUGE news week for this episode let me tell you that. Starting with the further failings of Joker II, Christopher Nolan's WB deal, more details on Daredevil: Born Again and Spider-Man 4, a Goll...um movie update, the reworking of the God of War TV series and the John Wick spin-off Ballerina, trailers for Wolf Man, Dune: Prophecy, The Electric State, Creature Commandos and Invincible, an unpdate on the Viewmaster movie, the first look at Krypto the Superdog in the upcoming Superman DCU reboot and a whole lot more! Thanks for listeningDeadpool & Wolverine movie commentary track out now! Visit bigsandwich.co for bonus weekly shows including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Maybe skip an extra few minutes.00:00 The Start04:54 Early Streaming Release for Joker: Folie a Deux12:14 Christopher Nolan Warner Bros. Deal14:24 Daredevil: Born Again Release Date & Leaked Trailer19:00 Tom Holland's Creative Control on Spider-Man 426:14 Lord of the Rings Gollum Movie Update30:00 God of War TV Series Re-Work32:26 Ballerina John Wick Movie Re-Shoots36:00 Wolf Man Trailer41:50 Dune Prophecy Trailer44:04 American Psycho Reboot47:32 The Electric State Trailer52:06 Creature Commandos Trailer55:10 Invincible Season 3 Teaser58:26 Viewmaster Movie in the Works01:01:44 Karate Kid Legends Details & Poster01:03:28 Krypto the Superdog Reveal for New DCU Superman Movie01:09:46 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:20:10 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok â–ºhttps://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube â–º https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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My name is James, also known as Mr. Sande and with me as always is my co-host, my good
friend, my compatriot
Oh, yes, the man who lives under my bed Nick Mason. That's not true. I live in my own bed
Under your own bed. No in my own bed. I've made a little thought. Oh good. Yeah, it's great in your bed
Yes, and under mmm sometimes
Depends whether I'm scared or not. Do you get scared much? No, I'm never scared of what's under your bed
How was you? How was your sody pop there? Why are you asking me that question Mason? I'm just curious how was it?
It's warm, I don't like it. Why is it warm James? Because I put two in the fridge Mason every day
so I'm ready to have my ginger beer. But I've got one here and it's god it's crisp and cold.
And yet you didn't offer me the crisp and cold one, I offered you. I did, I truly did. But why, if you put two in the fridge
James, why is only one coming? Because my dad took one. Because he's looking after the kids. Because we have to speed through
this and Claire's got a gig and then I'm going to that gig, Mason.
So I'm going in hot with this hot drink.
Okay.
No, we're not going to speed through it. We're going to do it at a regular pace.
We've got plenty of time.
Absolutely we do.
Nobody panic.
It's a big news week though, isn't it Mason?
It's a big news week, big news podcast. There was some New York Comic Con stuff, not too much
we're going to be getting into but there's bits and pieces. Oh yes. Before we let people
know what we're doing there's also this week at BigSandwich.co if you are signed up we
did a commentary for Deadpool and Wolverine. That's right we did. That's a fresh one,
we just finished that one. That's a billion dollar movie, we're going to get a piece of
that right? We're going to do a billion. They're going to put that on the Blu-ray. Yeah definitely. And then put the Blu-ray in the steel book right? Yes that's right.
And then they're gonna put the steel book in the Deadpool and Wolverine popcorn bucket in the mouth
of it and then you could buy that for $60. And that's funny. And then we'll get a piece of that.
We'll get a little bit of that. And that's funny. That is funny actually. Now there's time codes
below if you do want to jump to anything in particular. We're going to talk about the bombing.
Is there a child approach? Yeah yeah yeah my dad is not doing his job. They're coming in here
hot and I do not like this, Mason. We're going to talk about how badly Joker 2 is bombing. Really
badly. I mean, we talked about it last week, but now it's bombing even bigger. Comically badly. Do
you think that might be part of it? I don't think it's a comic book movie. No, but I think
it deliberately. Like a joke. Like a joke. I guess it's kind of like a joke. Like ultimately, I think that's maybe how Todd Phillips and
YK and Phoenix should play it. I thought it was a, this has actually been a joke all the
time. Are there any jokes in those movies? The Fog on Leghorn. Oh, actually that, no,
he tells jokes, doesn't he? He tells jokes. And Fog on Leghorn. And Fog on Leghorn. He
does his 10 minute Fog on Leghorn impersonation. I forgot. Thank you. I thought society was the joke, etc.
Yeah, yeah.
Also, I was going to talk about how Warner Brothers tried to sway Christopher Nolan to
come back.
Was it with money?
Yeah.
Did it work?
No.
Interesting.
We're going to talk about the release date of Dead, Evil, Born Again and the trailer,
the leaked trailer.
Yeah, we saw it.
So you don't have to.
You don't have to look at it now.
You should though. Yeah, saw it. So you don't have to. You don't have to look at it now. You should though. Yeah give it a look. I'm gonna talk about a Spider-Man 4 update from
Tom Holland himself. Hello. I'm here. I've got a new beard. I live under the bed. Does he? Yeah.
Because he's scared. I think so yeah. Of you. Yeah. Because you live on top of the bed. That's right.
Yeah this is good stuff. We're gonna talk about what's going on with Lord of the Rings movies
Mason. Okay sure. It's a bit of misinformation. We're gonna talk about a couple of things that are getting retooled.
One, the God of War series and one, the Ballerina movie.
Oh yeah.
We've got so many trailers. We've got Wolfman. We've got Frank Grillo's Werewolves.
Yeah, I didn't watch that trailer.
Doesn't matter. We've got Dune Prophecy. We've got The Electric State.
We've got Creature Commandos and Invincible Season 3.
Damn. Then we've got some news onos, and Invincible Season 3. Damn!
Then we've got some news on the Viewmaster movie.
Really?
An update.
Cool.
A new reel, if you will.
Thank you.
That clicked in a new reel. Is it boats?
It's boats mostly.
Is Zachary Levi in it?
Yes he is.
Yeah, he's a little boy who became a man.
Interesting.
And he can't believe he's been sucked into the world of Viewmaster.
That's amazing.
Whoa, I can't believe I'm sucked into the world of Youmaster!
Whoa!
I'm a boy, but I'm a man!
I'm 44!
Don't think about it.
Don't think about the whole situation.
We're going to post it for the next Karate Kid movie and then of course the reveal of
Krypto the Superdog.
That's right.
Controversial.
If you're on Twitter.
I don't think so.
No, I was going to say. Nothing. It's not nothing. I like it.
Me too.
We'll get into it. And again, time goes below. Collin Sue edits this, takes care of it.
He does a sterling job.
He does, doesn't he?
He's probably doing it while drinking a frosty soda pop.
He better not be. In solidarity with me, he better be having a room temperature water.
On not even a soda?
No.
Wow.
No, he's gonna take it that one step further.
Can it be bottled water? No, Mason even a soda? No. Wow. No, he's going to take it that one step further. Can it be bottled water?
No, Mason.
Tap water?
Yeah.
You know what?
It can be bottled sparkling water, but it's room temperature, which is awful.
Oh, that's the worst one.
So this is my variety.
Can it be the one with that tinge of flavour?
You know, the ones that go really bad.
Oh, they're bad.
Yeah.
I don't like them.
Yes.
Okay, great.
Because it's like you're drinking out of a glass that's had some lemon, isn't it?
Yeah. It's just got a smell to it
Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. So Joker fully adieu. This is by variety
They tell they're telling us that it was primed to be another twisted comic book smash. Hell. Yeah. Yeah
I like the sound of that
Me too. Instead the sequel to the two 2019 billion dollar hit Joker is a box office disaster
The secret won't near won't earn anywhere near that much by the end of its theatrical run.
Oh, they don't know that.
No, it's pretty-
I mean, it is going on streaming on the 26th of this month.
Oh, absolutely.
29th.
29th.
Oh, well then, you know-
Three extra days.
I was just scaremongering then.
That could make a billion dollars.
That's $600 million you could make in three days.
Agreed.
With ticket sales projected to stall at a lifetime gross of $65 million domestically
and $210 million, domestically and 210 million or to
215 million globally that's what we call an ouchie-woushy
Absolutely now Joker 2 cost 200 million dollars to produce and roughly 100 million to market and distribute. Okay, that's a lot
I agree and it's a scam. Yeah, it's definitely money laundry
It's like that solid gold toilet in that name of Heath Ledger sliding down the money and the money's on fire. That's right.
That's Joker.
That's this movie, I think.
That is one of the most accurate memes, I think.
And GIFs.
Do you think Christopher Nolan knew he was making the Dark Knight when he made that meme?
Yeah, because he'd already made the Dark Knight in the future.
What comes first, the meme or the movie?
The meme can first.
Often people are like, that can't get yeah at this rate
I was so cost 200 million to produce and roughly 100 million to market which is a scam and distribute
I agree and at this rate the film won't get anywhere close to its to the 450 million dollars needed to break even
After its theatrical run. It's gonna lose between 150 to 200 million dollars, but they're gonna don't worry
They're ready for this because well, I was gonna say Warner Brothers can afford it Yeah, they got tons of money. They've got all that Velma money
It's ah the streaming date of this is oh wait. Sorry all of it is in David's as labs personal accounts
Oh, that's they can't know they can't they can't access that they've given that to him already
So damn for all these successes
I reckon if they asked him he would just give it back to them because he would say I am doing a bad job
Actively and we all see that.
And this is a joke and here's the money back.
This is only to benefit a very, very small number of people. And I am dismantling your
company. Yeah.
You've got me. Yeah. So here's the money back. That's right.
All I needed was one person to call me out. And you've done it. Congratulations. Yes,
this was obviously evil. But no one said that.
Yeah, here we are. So yeah, you're right in terms of the streaming date.
That's October 29th, which is a Tuesday.
And that's a good sign that things are bad.
Not even a Friday.
Not even like a Friday where you go, oh, Friday night, maybe I'll watch a Joker.
It's Joker night.
You go Tuesday, oh, I've got to work tomorrow.
Yeah.
Isn't the biggest loser on or something?
Yeah, he's married at first sight.
Yeah, one of those. I don't know. Farmer hates his wife or whatever he's married at first side yeah one of those I don't know farmer hates his wife whatever that's
right yeah one of those ones yeah god this is like got our own thing going on
got our own thing going on oh well maybe I'll watch it on Friday and then you
forget and it makes nothing yeah great work WB you've done it again the 29th
because it's where did this come out the third that's crazy right I mean it's... When did this come out? The third. That's crazy.
Right?
I mean, it's not making money, so I guess there's no point in leaving it in cinemas.
Yeah.
You give another screen to Deadpool and Wolverine, which is still showing in Australia, right?
Yeah.
I mean, the next 10 years is going to be Joker 2 actually.
What is it?
It's actually good or something.
It's going to be that.
Oh, maybe.
Yeah.
I mean, as we said, we didn't love it, but I don't think it's as good or something. It's gonna be that. Oh maybe yeah. I mean as we said, we didn't love it but I don't think it's as bad as everybody
says it is in comparison to like the first one. I think they're fairly comparable.
I think they are fairly comparable as well. You're absolutely right. Yeah.
That's not a compliment. Just to be clear. They're both poop from a butt. I don't know man. I
just I don't I don't know how did it happen from a butt but but in the second
one the people producing the poop had eaten like one of those hamburgers that
has gold leaf in it all. Okay. You know so it costs a lot more. Gold leaf poop from a butt.
Exactly yeah. But all the gold is picked out by David Zaslav I think so yeah I think this metaphor is perfect he's rummaging
through a poo is what you're saying what I'm saying yes and this is a real
assistant is running through rummaging through I think he'd rummage through the
poo I think he'd worry the assistant was gonna be I'll skim off the top yeah
him off the top of the plate maybe and this is not a metaphor is it this
happened no this literally did happen yes yeah where were we are forgotten oh? I forgotten. Oh, yeah. Screaming Tuesday. Yeah. I mean, this is only going to be
bad news for like, I don't know, I think creativity moving forward. It is funny
that when Warner Brothers lose a lot of money, I do like that. Yeah. But it
ultimately doesn't hurt the people at the top. Now, as we know, Hollywood
famously, if something is a big success they take the
wrong lesson from that yeah you know so if something is a big failure are they
gonna take the wrong lesson from this what do you think I think we don't know
more sequels is it no more or terms I think it's gonna there's gonna be a pause
or reinvention on Joker right yeah then he in Batman 2 is coming out so he's
probably already in that. Yeah.
Sorry, Ollie. That was Mason. And then I think I talked about this last week.
I just thought about there being a pause on Joker.
Yeah.
I was like, I'm so mad. I better kick a dog.
Yeah. I think-
Like the Joker would.
He would, wouldn't he? I think it's one of those things where it'll be like directors
shouldn't have their own card of things and creative decisions.
We need more producers on set every day to say how about putting in some cameos.
Well Bong Joon Ho just recently said that he gets final cut on Mickey 17 which he's
very happy about.
Didn't he famously lie to a producer or money guy about, it might have been Snowpiercer?
And he was like, well my dad, my dad really liked this and he died.
And so we have to keep the final cut on this.
And they were like, okay.
And then it was like, my dad's, he's fine.
That's hilarious.
Why not?
Yeah.
You can get away with it.
That's the thing, Mason, you can literally say anything.
Just don't get caught.
And that applies just across the board.
In any field
You can say to your friends family work. It doesn't matter. You can say literally anything. So true
All right, let's go on to this Mason also via variety
Warner Brothers they were so keen to lure Christopher Nolan back into the fold after Oppenheimer. Can I just want to oh, yeah, please just
Elaborate on this so director Bong Joon-ho often clashed with producer Harvey Weinstein.
Oh, no.
He frequently interfered in order to create his version of the film.
Among the many requests, the producer insisted having the fish scene removed
in favor of more action.
He considered his favorite shot in the film.
He told the producer that he wanted to keep the shot for a personal reason
as a tribute to his late father who was a fisherman.
Weinstein said family is very important to him, so granted Bong to keep the shot. a personal reason as a tribute to his late father who was a fisherman. Weinsdorf said family is very
important and so granted Bong to keep the shot. In an interview the director said
it was a lie my father was not a fisherman. And that movie looks like it
barely broke even. Yeah. So that's good. So who's you know that's a good shot as
well that fish moment it's good. It's a good movie. People haven't seen it.
Check it out. Have you watched the show? Snowpiercer I watched the first season and it is good also. It's not set in the same trainer verse
Oh different trainer verse. Yeah, but what if what if what if like the end of season two it's real
It is set on the same train. Well, then the train is two trains just collide
They just go past each other and everybody waves and then it's never mentioned. That's Paul Bettany's wife
Hey, she has a name. Come on, man. Mrs. Bettany. Thank you. This is Paul.
So variety is saying that Warner Brothers, as I mentioned, they wanted to get
Christopher Nolan back because they they dumped all their movies on streaming in
2021. Yep. That's right.
Christopher Nolan was like, this will not do this will not stand.
Yeah, I will not. I will not like this publicly.
That's right. He released a statement that was like auteurs, etc.
Sure, sure, sure.
You can imagine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't need to read it. You get it, right?
So of course with Oppenheimer, he went over to Universal. It was a huge hit.
He's got his new movie coming out. We don't know anything about it other than it is Matt Damon.
And it might be espionage based?
Well, sources are saying that Nolan's latest isn't just another sci-fi epic mason.
Some speculate that it may be an espionage in genre.
Because he's been talking about doing Bond for like...
But why would he?
Well, that's true.
And also, as I understand it, a lot of the times...
I think he's been in talks with the Broccoli family, Leon productions, a number of times,
and they won't give him final cut on the film.
Well, they should.
They should.
That's right.
Didn't Danny Boyle have a similar thing because he was supposed to do?
Yeah.
Don't die tonight, James Bond.
Those broccoli's, they got a firm hand on that franchise.
They do.
And like two in five of those movies are generally very good.
I agree.
And you know what?
Those are pretty good odds these days.
Yeah.
I'll take two in five, Mason.
Actually if two in five, anything was good.
Yeah, right? God, you'd have... Imagine if two and five, anything was good. Yeah, right?
God, you'd have-
Imagine if one and two soda pops was cold.
Two cold drinks, three warm temperature drinks.
Oh my God.
Warm temperature.
We could bring three other people over,
have a party where three people are disappointed.
Water Brothers apparently wrote him a seven figure check
over COVID and distribution related fees for Tenet.
Now seven figure, do you think that means exactly $1 million?
It might.
They asked in June.
Yeah.
Like if it was $9.5 million, we'd know about it.
I'd say nearly $10 million.
And I like how he just went, thank you very much.
Yeah, well, bye.
You mean this money you owe me.
Thanks, I guess.
Thanks. Finally. Great. I can finally pay the bloody gas bill. Mmm. You're not wrong Mason in this economy
So yeah, there we go. Christopher Nolan taking money. Nothing wrong with that
We won't win our mind
Dead or Born Again's got a release date officially. I think this was previously leaked but it is March 4th of 2025
It's gonna be nine episodes. It's got a bunch
of retooling happened. They were going to not put in Foggy and Karen and then they decided maybe we
should and just not say they died in between seasons if these are connected, but they are now.
They've apparently and we saw who's the villain in this? We saw White Tiger. We saw Bullseye,
Kingpin and the Matt Murdock are working together now. They're having a little chat in a diner.
If you step out of line, I'll hit you with this stick that I carry.
And of course, Jon Bernthal's back as the Punisher.
Cut your hair, Jon Bernthal.
What are you doing running around like that?
Yeah. Embarrassing for you.
That's not how the Punisher looks.
He looks like Dolph Lundgren.
That's exactly right.
Yeah. We should have been in Deadpool and Wolverine.
We were discussing that, weren't we?
Yeah.
I must say, discussing that, we recorded that commentary and we set it in there.
That's right.
But then we had to take it out.
So there's probably a five minute section of just silence.
Oh yeah, cool.
For legal reasons.
For legal reasons, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Anyway, it looks good.
It does look good, doesn't it?
Yeah, it looks very in line with what they'd previously done on Netflix.
I'm hoping for more, not even, it doesn't have to be explicitly like Spider-Man turns
up, but just some things that show that this is connected to something else.
Yeah, I mean they did that initially didn't they with the very early...
Newspapers.
Yeah, the newspapers and they were like, remember that big green guy?
There was a green man!
Not really, I don't.
There was an alien!
Dragon bones.
I don't believe you.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I mean if Daredevil's going to fight Doctor Doom or whatever, you know, maybe have Doctor
Doom show up. Sure. Don't you know, maybe have Dr. Doom show up
Sure, don't you think absolutely set up their relationship? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Did you see that also announced at New York Comic-Con? They're doing who's doing it? They're doing an old man
Daredevil. Oh, yeah who does exist? It's by this uncomical movie. It's Charles soul and Steve Mcniven
He is alive because he's the new stick. He's in some other old man stuff.
Is anybody fucking dead in this old man universe?
Well all the heroes were killed if I recall. Every single one.
Except for most of the fan favorites who are still alive.
We know, the only one I can think of like, or there's a bunch that have been killed, with them we know of,
but like Captain America is dead or at the very leasted. Because he got his eyes gouged out.
But like, is Iron Man dead? We saw Loki's skeleton, Ant-Man's skeleton.
Which Ant-Man?
Some of the X-Men are dead.
Some of the X-Men are dead.
Maybe some of those were... But that's the thing as well, because the idea behind Old Man Logan,
you know, in that universe, his Mysterio provided an illusion that was so convincing and elaborate that Wolverine
thought all his friends were villains and he killed them all.
But they weren't.
Well that's the thing, they could also do a reveal where they're like, actually Mysterio's
illusion you thought you were killing, you thought the reveal was you were killing your
friends but actually didn't kill anybody.
Yeah.
You only killed some innocent civilians.
And robots.
You killed J Jonah Jameson. That's fine's fine old man J Jonah Jameson even older and
older yeah but yeah so they could really bring back any of them yeah I'd be like
actually we kidnapped Cyclops yeah put him in a van you still in that van out
of the van right get him out of there yeah dead of a born-again how you
feeling about it looks good looks good I'm sorry I'm very cox's Charlie Cox is back. Yep. Are they going to have a long wanna or a fake
wanna? Definitely going to have a long fake wanna, Mason. Your bloody love life. I don't
know what that means. No, I don't know either. But you know, if you know, you know. Yeah,
absolutely. It doesn't mean anything. I was going to say, I don't think it means anything.
But yeah, I mean, the precedent has been been set we have to have a really long fight
sequence. Yeah down a hallway and then down some stairs. Yeah I'd like to see
She-Hulk in this. Yeah. I think we will. Yeah. Because that effect is very
expensive and sometimes unconvincing. I would like to see that big double D on
his chest. Nice. The logo. I know what you mean. People don't know they think I'm talking about another thing.
But why won't they do that? They could just bring Jennifer Walters into it for a minute.
Yeah, well that's true. It's cheap. I don't, maybe. But I don't think they will. I think
they're just being like, now that was a fling. I bet they'll be like, I was really a green woman.
Sure. I don't believe you. Well, it's in the paper.
Anyway, again, looking forward to it. Let's see what, this feels more like, I don't believe you. Well, it's in the paper. Yeah.
Anyway, again, looking forward to it. Let's see what this feels more like.
It's ridiculous saying this, like old school Marvel television.
Oh, hell yeah.
Which is a crazy thing to say.
But I guess it did start like 10 years ago.
Oh, so, you know, God, I remember watching that first season being like,
this is good.
Yeah, me too.
And then getting the third season and not finishing it.
But I should finish it because it is good as well.
Yeah, absolutely. You can bloody find it. It's on Netflix, isn't it? No, it's on Disney. Okay. They put them all on Disney, didn't they?
They probably put them all on Disney, yeah. Cool. This one's by the Rich Roll podcast. They had Tom Holland on. They said hello, Tom Holland.
Hey, we're better known than the Rich Roll podcast. Let's find out. Let's look at their numbers.
Who's Rich Roll? Is it a guy named, is it two guys named... Yeah, is it Rich and Roll? Rich and Roll.
It's like that band Big and Rich. Who's Rich Roll? Who is this guy? What's
he up to? So on Apple, they've got... Let's have a look.
Well, we'll do it in via reviews. Okay, sure.
Okay. All right, fine. They have 10,000, nearly 11,000 reviews on Apple podcasts.
Okay. And we have 1,600.
Well, all right. But that might
just be the Australian. That may be. I don't think that's right Mason. Wow. Well
I mean they have 6,000 reviews on Spotify. This is incredibly embarrassing
for me. I thought we were gonna win. Right. And I wouldn't have. We could cut
all this out but I mean that wouldn't be real would it? Okay. I bet Rich Roll would
cut it out if he were publicly embarrassed. Okay, his podcast has 1.3 million subscribers.
Ours doesn't, but our YouTube channel does about those numbers.
And this Tom Holland interview has 259,000 views.
But if you look at a regular interview from the Rich Roll podcast, which I am, where he's
talking to Alex Honnold, the crock-on, who said do hard things, his interview only got
50,000.
They're averaging it out between like 20 to 50,000 views per podcast.
He's saying this is sus?
Yeah, we have more views for our podcast than that.
Interesting.
Would you say this is a scam?
Yep, they got Rainn Wilson 18,000 views.
Interesting.
I don't know, I feel like if we got Rainn Wilson it'd probably hit a billion.
I agree.
It would be such a good interview.
And it's something that cannot be proven either way.
I agree with you.
What I do like, and I don't know whether this is wrong because I haven't been through all
of these, but none of these dudes are like cranks.
It looks like the kind of podcast where you get cranks on and be like, let's listen to
all opinions, including to the worst man on the internet.
Yeah, for sure.
You know what?
Us.
Us.
Rich Roll, we salute you and respect you.
We salute you, Rich Roll. And we forgive and respect you. We salute you, Rich Roll.
And we forgive you.
Bless you.
Bless you, Rich Roll.
This is probably an incredibly popular podcast that everybody knows.
We're like, nah, we don't know it.
What's this?
Yeah, anyway, Spider-Man 4 update from Tom Holland.
He said, it needs work, but the writers are doing a great job.
I read it three weeks ago and it lit a fire in me.
Zendaya and I sat down, read it together and
we were at times bouncing around the living room.
You said it does need some work.
Interesting.
As mentioned. But what do you think about that? Does that make you excited for Spider-Man
fighting Kanal or whatever?
Ah.
Who's got a sticky knife? He's trying to get Spider-Man?
With his sticky knife.
Oh, I've gone from the planet of the...
Oh no. I'm going gone from the planet of the... Oh no.
I'm gonna jump out of the way.
Well, I'll be foiled again.
Or if I go back to my home planet, I suppose.
How do you feel in Spider-Man 4?
Look, give me some ground level stuff.
If you can give me...
I don't know. Look, I would probably prefer...
If it's gonna be a two hour movie, I'd prefer 90 minutes of grounded stuff and then at the end like it gets a bit weird and then we go
And we you know give me a give me a give me a black and white like Thor 4 yeah
I'm gonna fight a goob monster exactly with sticky knives yeah that guy does um and just give me you know and then maybe
Give me a cliffhanger, and then we go into space or whatever okay?
I can you open big okay fighting a guy with a big sticky hand or sure sure sureanger and then we go into space or whatever. Okay. I can open big.
Okay.
Fighting a guy with a big sticky hand or whatever.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
And then he defeats him.
And I don't know, then he stops him like...
Did you know Rich Roll is an ultra athlete and a wellness evangelist?
Is he?
Yep.
Evangelist?
Evangelist.
Oh, that's a great title you've given yourself, Rich Roll.
That's right.
I bet I could lift him over my head and dump him in a bin. Yeah.
And I will do that.
Wow.
Wow.
Do you think I should?
I think you should.
I mean, if you can even catch him,
he'd probably run away as soon as he sees you.
Nah man, see the thing is I'm a good sprinter.
Yeah.
So I'll get him like up close.
If it's over long distance,
yeah, he would be able to clear some space.
I mean, he does say he's an ultra athlete.
Ultra athlete doesn't mean you're a good sprinter.
He's specializing in long distance by the sounds of things.
And wellness. And wellness. by the sounds of things.
And wellness.
And wellness.
Whatever the fuck that means.
That could just mean you drink fish oil all day and he's got severe diarrhea.
We don't know what this guy's working with.
All I'm saying is I could definitely pick him up over my head and dump him in a bin.
I think if he was committed to realness, there'd be an episode here, fine, Tom Holland great,
Rainn Wilson, that's
good. But there should be a podcast that says I'm going to be real with you. I drank fish
all all day and now I have diarrhea. Because we know he did. We know he did. And oh, this
is Zach Braff episode. Oh, yeah. Yeah, nice. Goddamn Rich Roll. Yeah, I don't know. But
I mean, also, I don't know. Damn, this guy's ripped us out. Maybe his name isn't Richroll,
but he discovered like an SEO hack
where a lot of people misspell Rickroll.
Oh, okay.
And they're trying to Rickroll people,
and he's like, well, if I get in there,
Get in the Richroll.
I get a million subscribers or whatever.
So this is 1.8 meters tall.
All right.
Which is like a fraction taller than me.
Okay.
But that's his Google height.
I reckon he's like 175 at max. I'm lifting this dude over
my head Mason. It's happening. Okay. All right. Now back to Tom Holland. He does have 1.4 million
subscribers on Instagram, but the views don't necessarily reflect that. Very interesting.
Yeah. Very interesting. This guy's going to look great in a bin. Don't you think? Yeah, very interesting. This guy's gonna look great in a bin Don't you think yeah, I think that yeah, someone's gonna look good in a bin
Absolutely all bad in a bin whoever ends up in the bin during this this scuffle
So Tom Holland wants this movie a certain way. Yeah, what power does Tom Holland have some power?
It's I well he it's a because his contract was up. Yeah, right, right
So I'd imagine him signing on and he has signed on, I believe, you know, there were certain
stipulations that come with that.
Probably like script decisions that he can make.
Yeah, right.
So he can say this script needs more scripting and absolutely probably do that.
And we can give you more scripting, Mr. Holland.
Don't even worry about that.
Absolutely.
I mean, speaking of, did you say this?
This piece of news, Daniel Craig and Rian Johnson are not happy over the Knives Out movies not getting proper theatrical runs.
And rightly so. Didn't he talk, Daniel Craig spoke to Netflix about that or something?
He said, yeah, Daniel Craig had a testy exchange with Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarados.
Oh, a testicle exchange.
A testicle exchange. F your business model, he said.
Let's entwine our testicles.
Exactly. Now look, I agree, but also did they not sign a bunch of agreements where they were
like, let's get a lot of money upfront in exchange for a brief theatrical window?
Yeah.
I mean, we saw Knives Out to Mr. Onion.
In that one week.
Yeah, it was out for like, yeah, they'd stopped playing in theaters while I was in the theater.
I had to finish it at home.
Yeah, I mean, they'reres while I was in the theatre. I had to finish it at home.
Yeah, I mean, they're not wrong, but yeah, yes. It seems like they're just leaving money on the table by not releasing it in theatres. So I don't know, man. I just don't know. Yeah, interesting.
Ted Sarandos says, we think we have the right model and we're not going to change it.
Yeah, well, you don't.
We're in the subscription entertainment business and you can see in our results, it's pretty good business.
It appeals to a very large segment of consumers and fans.
Dude, you've been in debt for like 15 years.
Yeah, they've been in debt the whole time, haven't they?
What are you talking about?
Because they were assuming that this would kill theaters.
Yeah.
And it hasn't yet, and they're like,
well, we don't have a Plan B.
But they're not going to help theaters
by putting their movie knives out.
That's so true, isn't it?
Yep, fair enough. Oh well. Oh well. It's by Empire. Go on. Writer Philippa Boyens who wrote on all of the Lord of
the Rings slash The Hobbit movies. Oh yes. She's of course working on the newest two films. So it's
Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens who work with Peter Jackson developing the scripts etc. But they are
the key writers on the Good Lord of the Rings movies. Now remember we heard The Hunt for Gollum was two great films?
Oh, that's right, yes.
We're going to split The Hunt for Gollum up.
Okay.
But you said...
Is he over here?
And then is he over there?
So in the first movie they go over there and they're like,
he wasn't actually here.
He must have been the other way.
We need to double back.
They're both called The Hunt for Gollum, is he over here?
But they're referring to different directions.
The hunt for Gollum is here over here. But they're referring to different directions.
I can tell you definitively it isn't two films.
Oh, it's only one film? Or is it more than one film?
That was a genuine misunderstanding that happened because we've begun to work conceptually on two different live action films.
I don't believe this. I think it was two films.
Because they would have just said, this is one film and another film.
They would have said that anyway.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. Maybe it's because of the title and confusion.
I think it's got something to do with who they can get back.
Oh, yeah.
The first being the hunt for Golem and the second one still to be confirmed.
We found him. Yeah.
It's quite under the bed.
It's quite. You love that.
It's quite an intense story, which falls after the birthday party of Bilbo
and before the mines of Moria. Oh, sure? That window there. That's what we call that's
that's the five-year period between Return of the Jedi and the other stuff.
It's the golden spot. Squeezing two movies in there.
Imagine Lord of the Rings movies they get a the books get one movie each.
The Hobbit gets three movies. 20 minutes in a movie it gets its own
movie I guess nice it's a specific chunk of incredible untold story told about
the perspective of this incredible creature that's you know what let's get
rid of the term content yep chunks we're making chunks making chunks movies 17
minutes long yeah chunk you're at a party.
Yeah, I'm a chunk creator.
Yeah, man.
What are you chunking at the moment?
A lot of stuff.
Mostly content.
Mostly chunking content, if I'm honest.
You happy with this, Lord of the Rings?
I'm happy with this, James.
I'm thrilled.
I'm thrilled to bits.
I like how happy you are.
Me too.
I am looking forward to a new Lord of the Rings movie.
Let's see.
Andy Serkis is directing and he's returning as Golem.
Is Andy Serkis, he's going to be Canull.
Yeah, I think they said that, didn't they?
That's been confirmed.
Is he going to be rotoscoped or is he going to be real in it?
I don't know, man.
Just spray him down with some goo and let him go.
Just let him loose?
Just let him wing it.
Just let him go on stage and let him just improv some lore.
Oh my god.
I'm Canelidon from the goo planet.
I got a sticky arm, I got a knife arm.
And this arm will turn you into a rat.
Is that a third arm?
Yep.
Is that a third arm?
Yep.
It's my rat arm.
Okay, you said it. It's canonical now.
And Tom Hardy's there with a love interest in the mood.
He's like, don't let him touch you. His arm will turn you into a rat.
You know?
They brought Michelle Williams back.
Why?
Yeah, she's like, oh no! Oh!
He's touched me, Eddie!
Am I going to turn into a rat?
Yeah!
Definitely.
Eventually.
Why?
Because I touched you.
My right arm.
Wait.
Which was my right arm?
Oh my god.
Well, he was Snoke and he was a CGI man.
That's so true, isn't it?
So he could be a...
What CGI man has he not been, you know?
Has he not been?
Mm-hmm.
He wasn't in Final Fantasy Spirits with him.
That's so true.
He wasn't that guy who looked like Ben Affleck but was voiced by Alec Baldwin maybe.
That's so true, isn't it?
Alright, that's fun. This is my deadline.
Go on.
In 2022, you probably remember this because that's all we were talking about.
The God of War series was announced and it's been in development since.
The TV series?
Yeah, man.
Because the game series is already out.
Yeah that's right.
I played it.
Yeah you played it.
What did you think?
Good.
I didn't finish the second one.
Interesting.
But I like them and I played a bunch of the old ones and whatever.
Apparently this new series is going to be set after all the Greek shit.
Okay.
So it's going to be Sad God of War Dad.
Of course it is yeah because it's poignant.
Dad of Sad.
Whatever it's called.
Yeah.
So it's only pictures on TV and Amazon, MGM studios, but they're starting again from scratch
following showrunner slash executive producer, Raph Judkins.
I think they should follow Kratos.
I agree.
But they're following this guy.
I don't know, is he going to do this?
He did Wheel of Time, which was a show.
Oh yeah, that was a show.
And fellow executives, Hawk Ottsby and Mark Fergus, they all exited the project after
completing scripts for the planned first season and apparently the scripts were good but I guess they weren't
because they're not doing this. How do you feel about this Mason?
I mean they probably didn't have the right you know they probably didn't have the right
chunks you know and I think that's important currently in this media landscape.
That's so true.
The scripts have to have the right chunks.
Yeah that's right. God damn. Would you...
Look out Kratos, he's got the arm that turns you into a rat.
He's got one too.
Boy!
Don't get turned into a rat.
Exactly, there we go.
There we go.
These scripts write themselves.
Tag us in, we'll do it.
Everyone's got a rat arm.
It's a third arm.
It's coming over the top of your head.
Okay, so that's happening great.
Starting again, this is what, four years away probably now? got a rat arm. It's a third arm. It's coming over the top of your head. Okay, so that's
happening great. Starting again, this is what four years away probably now? Four years too
late. All right. Is anybody talking about is there another game on the horizon? They'd
have something in the works, but I don't know specifically. I think it's going to be a new
chapter when they come back to it in the God of War saga. I think they wrapped up all the
Norse shit or whatever. Okay, it'll be, will it be, maybe it'll be Kratos is too old and his son's grown up now.
He's even older.
Yeah.
God.
And Kratos' son has basically turned into God of War at this point.
Yeah, I think he's Loki or something, isn't he?
Yeah, probably.
I don't even believe in any of that stuff.
Wow.
So, you know.
Sure, yeah.
Just, I'm, put that out there.
I don't believe it.
I think it didn't happen.
Yeah. You're a pasta fairy and everybody knows that
It's true. Oh, I like the spaghetti monster. I'm one of those guys. I believe in the spaghetti monster
Oh, and you're a Jedi you put in a nice form. You said that it yeah, it's funny
Yeah, it's funny because you know God or whatever
By the rap gone reshoots on ballerina were ordered. You know, Ballerina the John Wick spin-off starring
Arna De Armas. And famously not directed by Chad Stahelski, director of some of the John Wick movies, but now it is.
Yeah, that's right. So it was directed by Len Wiseman. He's the, he's um,
He did, it was. He did, um,
Oh no, did he die? No, uh, did she die? Yeah, they both died.
Oh no! Shouldn't have got him to direct this, he's dead!
No wonder this didn't turn out.
He did some of the Underworld movies.
Which ones?
All of them?
None of them?
Maybe first, I'm going to say first two.
Three?
First three.
He did other things as well, didn't he?
Let's check out his filmography.
You're a Len Wiseman head?
A wise guy?
You're a Len Wiseman?
I'm a wise guy, yeah.
Okay, here we go.
God, this is exciting.
It's not every day you get to go on the internet. That's not true. It really is. Like, I think you said too much. Too much, okay. Here we go. God. This is exciting. So every day you get to go on the incident. That's not true
It really is like too much too much Mason
He was the executive producer on the swamp thing TV series that one that was canceled before it came out
Was it not I know it was that one it was that one I was thinking of the other one sorry I apologize
I have the one I don't think in a man thing. I think you've man other one. Sorry, I apologize. What other one? I'm thinking of Man Thing. You're thinking of Man Thing?
Megadeth, videos, et cetera.
Okay.
Underworld.
Yeah, go on.
Underworld Evolution.
That's two.
Live Free or Die Hard.
Did he die hard?
That's not the worst.
It's not the worst.
He did Total Recall, the reboot.
Okay.
He did Sleepy Hollow, series Lucifer, a bunch of TV stuff, and The Gifted.
Yeah, there we go.
Now he's back and he's making a movie that's unreleased.
That's right because...
So Chad Stahelski's got to step in.
The initial cut was deemed sub par.
Damn.
Therefore Chad Stahelski, who famously helmed all four entries in the John Wick franchise,
was called upon to reshoot most of the finished movie.
Not sumptuous enough.
That's what he said.
Sumptuous enough he said.
More laser lighting.
More laser lighting.
More coins.
Mm.
Where are the coins?
Reload that gun in a more realistic way,
but it looks cool.
Where are the Greeks?
Where are the Greeks?
Bring them in.
This has pushed Chad Stahelski's Highlander movie
back five months also.
Oh, boo.
Which is starring Henry Cavill
and probably coming out apparently.
Interesting. It's been a long time coming as well. Excited for Highland is starring Henry Cavill and probably coming out apparently. Interesting.
It's been a long time coming as well.
Are you excited for Highlander with Henry Cavill?
Kind of.
Why?
I like Highlander.
Do you want to reboot or do you want him Conor McClouding it?
I want a sidequel that is taking place at the exact same time as Highlander 5.
So there's two Highlander men running around.
Exactly.
No, well there would be two.
Because Conor McCloud died in Highlander 4. What? Didn't he come back'd be, no, there would be two. Because Conor McLeod died in Highlander four.
What?
Yeah.
Didn't he come back in five?
No, he didn't come back in five.
Even as a ghost?
No.
Isn't Highlander five good or something?
No, it's bad.
Six is good.
Easily the worst one.
Six is good?
No, there is no six.
Five is, four is good.
Four, I think, is quite good.
Damn.
It's good to know what's good and what's not.
And two is good.
No, it's not.
But it's better than five. Yeah,
yes. Which is the one where you cut the guy down the middle and he splits in half. That was in
four but that's only in the trailer. God damn. It's not in the real movie. You know a lot about
Highlander. I know. Is that good or bad? It's bad. I wish I knew other things about different
subjects but I don't. Isn't it crazy that that is useful? Like now? For right now. Who knew?
I've just got the right chunks. Who knew? Who knew? Who knew?
I've just got the right chunks.
Yeah.
My brain's filled up with all the good chunks.
God, all the stuff I know is useful.
That shouldn't...
Because people have this kind of brain and tendency.
They can't use it.
Yeah. That's so true, isn't it?
That doesn't make any sense.
But yeah, so the bad guy in the end of, in Highlander 4, that scene...
To start a podcast.
It's in the trailer, but it's apparently was never intended to be in the movie.
Oh. It's like an exclusive for the trailer apparently was never intended to be in the movie.
It's like an exclusive for the trailer.
That is a dog move.
I agree.
But the fight sequences are pretty good.
Oh, well that's good then.
Yeah.
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Trailers ahoy!
Ha ha!
Ah ha!
A lot of chunks on this one.
You better believe it.
Big trailer week.
Big trailer week.
Let's start with ManWolf.
This, the ship with the trailers on the trailers.
Yeah.
It's below the waterline.
It's sinking.
We better get those trailers off.
Are we taking them off? Yeah just they just kept going is that
we is that what you thought I don't know no I don't want them I just want to
watch them and then they move on they're gonna they bring them out and they
clutter your house now that what that is yeah that's yeah it's all the clutter up
the back there god damn it that's why there's that Dracula untold trailer
that I'm using as a bath man it That's right. I wonder where that came from.
Yeah, it's collecting mould.
Yeah. Well, speaking of spooky stuff, Mason, Wolfman has a trailer and asks the question,
what if a wolf was a wolf man?
What if a man you knew became the movies The Wolfman?
Yeah, you got a scratch and then he went, boo.
You have a tough time of it, I think.
So this is Lee Whannell who did Saw and The Invisible Man.
That's correct. And Unbreakable,able not unbreakable unpunchable man with a microchip and you could fight. Oh upgrade upgrade
That's right. Um, I like him. He's good director
I met him that time and I've been interviewed him and it was an incredible interview and we all remember it but
It looks great. Yeah, it's good. We haven't seen the wolf man design in the actual movie
We have seen it. Yes in some sort of where was No, but we have seen it in some sort of, where was it?
Some sort of displays or something?
Some sort of universal monster movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And look, you can't really judge a movie based on that obviously, but he looks more rat than
wolf.
You can't really judge most movies based on their wolf man costume because a lot of movies
don't have one at all.
Oh, okay.
Okay, I see what you're saying.
I mean, a lot of them do just for like insurance purposes. Yeah. Like if there's a trailer and it has a
wolfman costume in it. Okay. But they don't often put it in the movie. No.
It's not a good chunk for most movies. Oh it's not a good chunk is it? Not a good chunk at all.
God I'm loving this. What did this invoke in you? What's the spirit of
what? The wolfman obviously. Yeah the wolfman. Now there's two wolfmen because the man in this, the
husband, he gets scratched by what's probably another wolf man
Okay. Yep. All right. Sure. Yeah or possum or possum as they call them. Yeah a rabid or regular
Oh, sure. And then he's then these family has to whatever. Yeah
And I know my husband's been scratched I guess we've got a whatever, you know, yeah sure
We're gonna gonna do the thing with the
silver I guess. Yeah, silver bullets.
Yeah, luckily we're in this abandoned silver mine. Yeah, that's good.
With a forge and there's a guy who makes silver bullets.
Oh, he's still there. Yeah, he's like, hello stranger.
What are you? I haven't seen you in a while.
What?
No.
Your husband been bit by a werewolf, has he?
Yes.
That's not going on there.wolf, has he? Yes.
That's not going on there.
Yeah, it is a lot. It's been a bit tough on you emotionally.
Well, yeah, and physically, obviously, because he's a wolf man.
You want to buy a potion?
I'm buying them?
Yeah.
Can I just have one?
No.
You're running a business here, straight.
You're not.
Nobody comes out here.
That's true.
You're not nobody comes out here. That's true
January 17th Which is a shame because I want to do some caribouna garbage is leading up in terms of like all but that won't do well
No, no, we're not we don't work then. Oh, I say he's a dog shit month for YouTube ad revenue
And I'm not making a new thing right and we take a bit of a break understandable
No new chunks in January. No, but you know, we'll cover some Dark Universe failures, hopefully next year at some point,
which should be a lot of fun. I like this. I like the look of it. I've reserved judgment for what
the Wolfman is going to look like. There's probably going to be two Wolfmen. And I bet at the end,
he's like, he remembers who he is and he kills the other Wolfman. Oh, yeah. That's my family
or whatever. In my family alone, I've got the powers of a wolfman. I think so. Yep. Now the the last one. The werewolves get along? There's two werewolves.
What's the general idea of the lore behind that? Because in the Anthony Hopkins,
Benicio del Toro one, he beheads his dad at the end. Let's think back to the underworld franchise brought to us by Len Weisman
sometimes. They all get along don't they? They all get along there. Yeah, they were all getting along.
Maybe it's an alpha situation. Oh yeah. You know that, they were all getting along. Maybe it's an alpha situation.
Oh yeah, by here.
You know that thing.
It's an alpha situation.
Yeah.
He maybe has to become the leader of the pack.
Wolf pack.
Remember wolf pack?
No.
No, that was good.
No, that was good.
Yeah, I think you're probably correct there.
But the invisible man, of course, metaphor.
Yeah.
This will also be metaphor.
Oh, for what? Dad stuff. Oh for what dad stuff parenting
puberty
Maybe transition, you know in life. Oh or in self. Oh
No, sure. Do you think maybe it'll be a metaphor with him?
Maybe it'll be ultimately a metaphor for a dad doing his fair share of the chores. Oh around the house
And he should shouldn't he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
A lot of that at the end
I think he's gonna kill the wolf man that turned him into a wolf man fair share of the chores. Oh my god. And he should, shouldn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of dads don't do that.
At the end I think he's going to kill the wolf man that turned him into a wolf man and
then he'll be like, and I'll do the dishes.
And I'll do the dishes.
You know?
I won't even need to be asked.
Yeah?
And that's not, I don't want credit for that.
I'm just saying, you know.
I mean a bit of credit is fine.
Yeah, but going forward I'll do that, yeah.
Yeah, that's good.
You just do the job that you're supposed to just do, thanklessly.
I agree. Because that's life. Just get that's good. You just do the job that you're supposed to just do thanklessly. I agree
Because that's life. Just get on with it. Mmm
Stoicism maybe what's the thing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, John. Sorry. Anyway, Frank Grillo's got one as well It looks like the purge but werewolves or something
I don't know if you saw the trailer I did not see the city and all the werewolves get out and no not all the way
And the government's like we're locking down the city, but there's werewolves in it the purge they're everywhere and they're doing the dishes what yeah, that's good. Well, they're gonna do the dishes too hard
No, yeah scratch all the plates. I was good. Yeah, you know your favorite Winnie the Pooh mug
Yeah, it's gonna scratch all of it off and you can't even see Winnie the Pooh on it anymore
Well, it wouldn't even be a Winnie the Pooh mug at that point would it? That's what I'm saying
So what would I even want that? We've got to kill all the werewolves. Okay. Yeah to protect my Winnie the Pooh mug
Okay, good. We also got a trailer for June your Your Bunnican Bowls. What's a Bunnican Bowl? I don't know, little bunnies on a thing. Okay, no, I don't do that. Okay. Like cool stuff. But June. Your Megatron Bowls. My Megatron Bowls. That's right.
June Prophecy. Go on. Now this is at 10,000 years before the ascension of Paul Atreides.
So five years after the events of Return of the jet correct June prophecy follows to
Hanukkah sisters as they come and insist is whatever I always said Harkonnen
And it's throwing me these new ones where they're like Harkonnen. Maybe it's finish or something. Maybe it's Harkonnen back to something
They can't they they they combat. Thanks. They threaten the future of humankind and establish the fabled sect that will become known as the Benny-Jezzer-it.
So this will be the...
B-B-B-Bennie-Jezzer-it!
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Benny! Benny! Benny!
It's gone.
Benny-Jezzer-it!
Um, yeah. So this is linked to the movies, I guess.
Okay, you guess. Well, it looks to be.
You guess and you assume.
All right.
You know, it's not...
Your Honor.
There's different Dune universes.
There's a David Lynch one.
Your Honor, I guess and I estimate.
Yes.
There's the TV series.
Sure.
There's the books, obviously, for nerds.
Yuck.
And there's the new movies.
There's the real-time strategy game.
Real-time strategy game that appears on the computer.
How are you feeling about this?
Mark Strong is there.
Mark Strong is there. Everyone's talking about what is to come and what has been?
There's probably that box you put your hand in and then you definitely make the origin of the boss
Yeah box and the boss and the needle for the next yeah, you know to the net needle to the neck
Oh, well, we're definitely gonna see the origin of the box. What about the voice that they do?
Yeah, the lady does the voice. Yes. I'm saying is that the origin is that the first time somebody I think so
Because she seemed very so the other lady seemed very surprised. Yeah's what I'm saying. Is that the origin? Is that the first time somebody did the voice? I think so because she seemed very surprised.
The other lady seemed very surprised when that happened.
That is very cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't keep that under your hat for very long, I reckon.
No, no, no.
You wouldn't tell everybody.
But I think it's interesting.
Isn't Timothy Chalamet the only one authorized to use that voice?
What do you mean?
Like, in the world?
Is he the only guy?
I thought he was the first guy to be able to do that.
No, because they do it in the previous movie don't they at the start all right then
yeah carry on then you can I guess everybody can do it anyone can do it
anyway this is out November 17th that's soon that is very soon yeah this might
be one of those big classic sci-fi series and then he will knew he said I
think people will watch this though yeah he said race didn't he say June Messiah
has been moved up like he was gonna do Yeah, it's his next movie. I believe next movie. Yeah, it's got a good cast to this
I had another thought about movies before I forgot. Okay, we talked about movies here movies
Uh, Luca Guadagnino is gonna do
American Psycho. Yeah a reboot. Yeah, which is more of a rebooking
Well, see is the thing he said that it's not a remake of the movie
But it's actually an adaptation of the book. Well, the last one was talking about yeah, see, he's the thing. He said that it's not a remake of the movie, but it's actually an adaptation of the book. Well, the last one was an adaptation.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
Lucca, etc.
Exactly, yeah. I mean, the movie, as I've said many times, I think the original movie is way better than the book.
Yeah.
Well, isn't it, it's almost like a slice of boring life.
It's really, really boring for chapters after chapter after chapter, and then he kills somebody.
Yeah. And then it just repeats over and over again. It's like
a narrative advice but also it's boring. But is that... And he meets Tom Cruise. Yes, because
otherwise you'd think he was Tom Cruise. But yeah, I mean this interesting, I guess my
question then is who is the new Patrick Bateman? Well I heard... Or Patricia Bateman. True.
I heard Austin Butler. Okay.
Did you hear Austin Powers?
I did.
Wow.
Man.
What do you think?
I'm going to murder you, baby.
You would say?
That's my bag.
That's right.
Murdering women.
Nobody take that out of context because that's not my bag.
That's not.
I don't know.
What about this book in your luggage that says murdering women?
That's my bag, baby.
It's a great callback.
I think so too.
So yeah it's um.
Who did you say? Austin Bartlett could work?
What about that Jacob Elordi character?
He does have a.
He's got private school vibes as we've mentioned.
He's a private school murderer guy.
Who do we say Alison, who's the lady from Get Out?
Alison Williams is that her name?
Oh yeah, okay.
She's also in Girls.
Yeah.
If we're gonna do Psychopaths,
I think she does a good one.
She's a psychopath, is what you're saying.
But I'm curious as to what they mean by
this is an adaptation of the book, not a remake of the movie.
What was his last movie that he did?
He did Challenges.
I like that movie.
And he also did, he's got a movie out, I think now,
I don't know if it's got a general release,
but it's queer, it's that movie,
it's got Daniel Craig and someone else.
That's doing very well, I think, yeah.
I don't know if we're getting that in Australia at all,
but I've heard that's good anyway, he's doing good work.
So yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't, I don't know what this, what this particular phrasing means.
Yeah.
You know, re the thing that I said, you don't know what it means or why.
Yeah.
But I mean, maybe they're doing, I don't know, maybe they're taking it more
seriously or something like, I don't know.
Do you think this would benefit from a direct adaptation though?
I mean, I mean, I mean, I kind of feel like the movie is pretty accurate.
Yeah, I mean, it's structured.
It sounds to me like the movie is structured more like a, there's more narrative to it
in terms of like a traditional movie structure.
The core thing being is he going to get caught?
Oh, so you know how the movie starts with him doing his routine and he explains the long routine
and he's like how I did my chapter. It's that like for a chapter. So basically they went,
well, that's the gist of that. Assume he does that every day kind of thing.
But like a lot of the violence and like the because the move because the book is so boring,
boring, boring, violent thing so boring, boring, boring,
violent thing, boring, boring, boring, violent thing.
The movie really does capture pretty much everything that happens in the novel.
Should I read the book?
No, don't worry about it.
Great.
So I don't know.
This is a real mystery to me, but I'm excited.
I like that guy.
So yeah.
Anyway, June Prophecy, November 17.
Oh yeah.
Here we go.
The Electric State.
You familiar with this?
Of course I am. This is directed by the Russo brothers and it was written by Marcus and
McFeely who of course worked on the Avengers movie. Some of them. This is based on the
graphic novel by Simon Stalinhag who did Tales from the Loop.
He did which was an Amazon series. Yeah.
That I watched some of. So it's like it's a regular farm world or whatever but there's
a big robot in it. Well so this is a different universe.
Yes it is a different universe.
Yes, it is.
But I'm not like his imagery.
Yeah, to capture people, to catch people up, Simon Stalinhag is an artist and he started
his artistic journey like doing sort of landscapes and then he discovered the work of Star Wars
guy.
Yeah, Ralph Macquarie.
Ralph Macquarie and he's like, what if I introduced a weird robots into all my landscapes?
And then he came up with a bunch of sort of art books that sort of tell the electric state is the most recent one.
And that sort of tells more of a story than the other ones, which are just odd landscapes kind of thing.
And I think some people have been critical of this trailer.
They're like, well, the robots in this don't really look like some of his stuff.
But I think some of his work does look more like this. You see like, you know, a lot of
these robots look like big sort of roadside mascots like Bob's big boy or the donut guy
or whatever brought to life. And I think they've really, it's not so much that they've ignored,
like it's not, it's not a, they haven't ignored his artwork. They've just focused on a very
specific thing. Aesthetic. Everything looks like, you know, a big robot, Felix've just focused on a very specific thing.
Everything looks like a big robot, Felix the cat or whatever.
You know what I mean?
They're focused on that.
I think it's got a little bit of promise.
I don't know.
It's set in an alternate 1994 and a young girl is approached by a robot who claims to
know her missing brother.
And with it, she sets out to find him.
Now, of course, the Russo brothers made a huge Netflix deal a couple years back. That's right. If you recall. They made The Grey Man. A movie that
everybody remembers and loves. Remember The Grey Man. They also did, didn't they? Nope. No, they
did. I don't believe you. They directed, you would mean Dupree. They directed Cherry. Okay.
Yeah. And before that it was Endgame. So after Endgame it was Cherry, the Grey Man, neither of which were massively well received.
And now three years on we've got the Electric State.
It does look good.
Yeah, and it's got a good cast.
It's got Milly Bobby Brown, Molly Bobby Robin, and Chris Pratt and others.
And others enter in it, yeah, and probably voices of different robots, etc.
I mean I personally I think if you've read the- Okay, okay, Hikwana's in it. Stanley Tucci's in it. Stanley Tucci. He's playing Ethan Skate.
Woody Harrelson is Mr. Peanut. Oh look at me go! God damn it! Mr. Peanut's in this! What the fuck?
Oh, they're incorporating real real guys. I don't like this!
Uh oh. He's your nemesis. Yeah. Gian, color Esposito is a guy on a screen if you recall
I'm on a straight Ryan Cox Anthony Mackie Woody Harrelson Jenny Slade Jason Alexander. He's George from Seinfeld. He's duck man
He's duck man. It's true
What if that's on streaming anywhere? I love duck man. Did you that weird era of 90s weird animation?
Yeah, it's sort of MTV's liquid television.
Oh my god. All of which are on YouTube currently except they've cut out all the Aeon Flux
segments for copyright reasons. I think it's on YouTube. I think Duck Man's just on YouTube. I love Duck Man. There you go. Anyway.
It's rude actually. Yeah, I think this is, looks interesting. I don't know if it's going to be like a pretty pedestrian narrative.
Wow.
Does it give you, it gives me a vibe of like never ending story.
Yeah.
Goonies or something.
Yeah. There you go.
I just said it.
Okay. And so yeah, Goonies. That's a good example of a thing.
Of a chunk.
Of a good chunk we remember.
Well, you know, there is a chunk in Goonies.
It's true.
There's a literal character.
And Kate Huy Khan from Goonies is in this.
That's right.
So that's the universe letting us know we're on the right track.
I think so too.
Yeah.
But I would say if you're looking for something probably that leans a little closer to the,
if you've read the, if you've seen the art books, if you peruse them, if you turn the
page on those art books, Tales from the Loop is more accurate.
Okay, cool.
And it's sadder and weirder.
But you didn't finish it.
No. I should.
What do you think about this though?
I'm going to note it down, James.
Okay, good. Well, it's out March of 2025, exclusive to Netflix, probably.
Maybe it'll get a limited release.
Do you think it'll get a Blu-ray in a steel book?
Yeah, maybe.
With Mr. Peanut on the front?
Yeah, you can put it next to your copy of The Grey Man.
I will.
Apparently it's got a budget of the Grey Man. I will.
Apparently it's got a budget of 320 million. I don't think that's true.
That's too much money for this.
I don't even think that's true.
That can't be right.
Yeah.
I guess, I don't know.
I don't know anything.
That's true.
But I do know this.
Go on.
We've got a couple of animated things to talk about, including creature commandos.
Another trailer for that.
They can't use Suicide Squad anymore for whatever reason.
So Amanda Waller's like, I'm assembling a team of the worst people, but they're not
people that make it stop.
Oh, I thought you meant Warner Brothers can't use Suicide Squad.
Nah.
And I've always been amazed that they released anything with Suicide in the title.
I know, right?
It's always been very surprising to me.
It's true.
But yeah, the government, the lousy government, in the narrative, the lousy government won't
let them use convicted criminals
As a particular kind of photo with bombs in their heads anymore
Yeah, so they're gonna use people who aren't human anymore or whatever human to begin with
Do you think they're retconning weasel killing all those children?
No, because it does look in the trailer like he's in the midst of killing some children
Yeah, but joking it might be a fake out. Maybe somebody else did it. Yeah, probably. Yeah
It's Sean Gunn, you know, yeah yeah maybe James Gunn doesn't want people to
think that Sean Gunn's killing children he's got that look that isn't he mmm and
he did it that's right also I need you to bear in mind this is the start of the
DCU officially yeah maybe you don't want to have murdered kids in that no I think
it might I'm just saying it's interesting that this is actually gonna
be the first thing yeah and it's out December 5th it's not that far away. Also, you'll notice that one of the villains they go up against seems to be clay face
It is yeah, a clay face, but it looks a lot like a clay face
It looks a lot like the the I mean, I mean, you know clay face. Mm-hmm. He's just a smudgy clay guy
Yeah, he does look quite similar to like a lot of the animated versions. Yeah, that's also what you look like
I know. Yeah, it's also what you look like.
I know.
Yeah, it's good.
I don't know, it looks violent and could be pretty funny.
I think James Gunn wrote all of these episodes, my understanding.
Feels like this really came up quick.
Yeah.
Yeah, unlike Invincible, which is taking forever.
Oh damn.
Don't you have a billion dollars?
Amazon?
James, maybe we could use this time to say positive things about Creature Commanders
and not negative things about Invincible Season 3. Why can't I just be negative?
Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Okay. Let's say something else positive voice cast is great. Yeah
I like seeing dr. Phosphorus running about I think that's a fun inclusion. Yes a lunatic
Who's see I would have said I mean he started out human so I don't know man
I mean, that's a real dr. Manhattan kind of like
Origin II kind of thing. Yeah, it was
Yeah, we get both Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein.
Yes.
We got this Merlady and we get GI Robot.
That's a bunch of fun.
Yeah, who voices GI Robot?
David Harbour's Frankenstein, isn't he?
Yes.
Frank Grillo's, of course, Rick Flagg's senior.
Alan Tudyk is Dr. Phosphorus.
Maybe it's the real GI Robot.
Steve Agee's John Economos.
He's coming back. That's fun.
I like that Mason!
And he's on crutches because didn't he have a real tough time at the end of Peacemaker Season 1?
Oh, John Gunn is voicing GI Robot as well.
Oh!
That seems like nepotism. That's what that seems like to me.
But also kind of a challenge especially for in the same room at the same time.
That's true. Is he going to do that that? Is there any bounce between two microphones?
I mean couldn't they use the same microphone and then like edit it and all and then my yeah, I've lost you haven't I? Yeah.
Get out of here. Sorry, I didn't mean to say anything actually. Well see that it never happens again. No problem.
Let's do this then. Invincible season 3. Oh time to make fun of invincible season 3 trailer.
So this is similar to the last one they're sitting in a diner and being like this is what's happening
This is pretty man
It's getting pretty meta a commentary on the the animation process and whatever this time instead of Alan the alien exactly
It's a soul and Cecil's like what are you been doing for the last room? Where was that? Why'd you have a big break?
Yeah, isn't that embarrassing that you had a big break? Yeah, and they did
Well, they're fixing that this time though because all episodes are going to not air at once There's gonna be a three episode premiere and then they're gonna all air big break. Yeah, and they did. Well, they're fixing that this time though, because all episodes are going to, not air at once,
there's gonna be a three episode premiere and then-
They're gonna all air at once.
Yeah, okay.
Lay it on top of one another.
Oh my God, that's gonna look amazing.
I know, and then you get the whole thing at once.
Action packed.
And you can talk about it to your friends
around the water cooler.
The neighborhood water cooler.
Which bit did you understand?
None of it.
But it was all like,
da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da all like... This out February 6th, that's good.
I like the idea of a three episode thing at the start as well.
A dooboot.
I'm really looking forward to seeing Conquest, which I think is this season.
That is my favourite villain across all of this.
Oh right, okay.
Who's voicing Conquest?
Oh, that's a good question.
Is it the guys in the boys?
He's the guy, he's guy's in all sorts of stuff.
He's Thomas Wayne, Mr. Man.
Mr. Thomas Wayne.
The guy's in Walking Dead, he's the guy, you know.
I'm Mr. Thomas Wayne.
It says Robert Kirkman has the perfect voice in mind.
Some people are saying Josh Rowland.
It's me, I've got the perfect voice.
Recent-
I'm Conquest.
I'm come to do a big Conquest.
Recent rumors.
Conquest my name, Conquest my nature.
My nature.
Recent rumors and leaks suggest that Benjamin Brian Davis,
the voice actor of Dutchman,
Dear Lind in Red Dead Redemption,
will be voicing him.
I don't know who that is.
But, uh, yeah.
Well, you know, he's one of those guys.
Well, get on this horse.
Exactly.
He kind of looks like him.
Well, invincible.
If I'm going to have to do a conquest on your planet,
I'm going to do a conquest on your planet.
How you, uh...
It's the guy's name, though.
You know, I keep saying Haley Joel Osmond, I keep you are? It's the guy's name though, you know. Who? I keep saying Haley.
No, Haley Joel Osmond I keep saying, but it's the guy.
What guy?
You know the guy, he's Thomas Wayne in the, he's Negan.
Oh, Jeffrey fucking Dean Morgan.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
He's already in it, he's someone else, isn't he?
Is he, okay?
Yeah.
All right then.
Let me check.
Okay.
I might be thinking.
Okay.
I might be thinking of because he's in the other one.
Or some people have suggested, no he's not um doesn't look like because there's an Instagram photo
It doesn't look like he's in it. Okay, cuz there's definitely I've seen a picture of him and he appears in
Okay, cuz I've seen a picture of him and he's sitting behind it a couple of volumes of invincible and I'm like, yeah people like
Oh, apparently he is cast so he is in it
but we don't know at what point so he could be conquest actually I think you
do a great job invincible nemesis invincible invincible invincible
Vincent people yeah it's people he's a world conqueror but he's got no powers
and all Vincent nibble he's got a shirt you sure that's right it's got very
fragile bones how does he get planet to planet?
Someone chucks him.
Oh no.
Yeah.
He just hopes that the hero he's fighting just chucks him a really long distance so
he doesn't die on the way.
Yeah, that'd be good for Vincent Nibble.
Mason.
Go on.
Mattel News.
Fresh out of Mattel.
Oh my goodness.
They're officially announced.
Like an Easy Bake Oven.
Wow.
Hot and fresh out of Mattel.
Do you eat anything out of an Easy Bake?
Do we even have them here? Was that a thing? I don't think we had them here. They probably wouldn't have passed our safety oven. Well, good. Hot and fresh out of Mattel. You've eaten anything out of an Easy-Bake? Do we even have them here?
Was that a thing?
I don't think we had them here.
They probably wouldn't have passed our safety standards.
Yeah, cool.
I've officially announced that Viewmaster movies in the works.
Great.
Here's what we know.
This is by Todd Black, the producer of escape art for escape artists or something.
Viewmaster has been a window to the wonders of the world, sparking imagination in kids
and adults alike.
You know when you see a picture?
Hey wow, this is a picture of a boat.
Teaming up with Robbie Brenner and Mattel Films gives us a chance to honor that legacy.
Yeah, honor the legacy of the View Master.
You idiots.
While creating an entirely new adventure for today's audience.
You know a lot of the time when somebody comes up with a head with a with a
with a cockamamie idea, we go, oh, you know, we'll give it a shot.
Anything can be good.
Are you kidding me with the new master movie?
You know, this doesn't need to be a view master movie.
It could be anything.
It could be a picture, a series of paintings, a telescope.
Yeah, microscope.
You don't need to brand this a window.
Oh, look at a window.
I've seen a boat.
Isn't that magical? You really caught on a magical adventure. You're really caught up on the idea that the
Viewmaster only does boats. They can put any kinds of 12 pictures together on that rail.
Absolutely. Yeah. It could be Aladdin themed. Yeah. We can't wait to bring this treasure
or rug treasure toys sense of exploration to the big screen. Dude, kids have fucking
phones. Like, what
are you doing?
I mean, maybe that's the plot.
They dusted it off. They're like, wow, you know what the real adventure is? Looking at
this boring ass thing from 60 fucking years ago.
And then it's just, it cuts to the kid and he's got it on his face and he's like, click,
click, click, click, click, click. Okay, we're done. Can I have my phone back now?
No, you're going to do the, this is like J a Jumanji. You're gonna get sucked into the to the Viewmaster
You're gonna go into a picture or whatever. Yeah, get in there. I'm your grandpa
Kids these you gotta come and leave. We've got to find the right reel to save the day
Yeah, we'll get it. We'll do it. Yeah
Let's go. Finally. We had someone across this large body of water then we could save the day
If only there was a Viewmaster reel ahead then. So you're thinking the real comes to life
in the real world or they go into the real? Well I think it doesn't matter, it can be either
depending on circumstances. I bet the way they flick the switch depends. Oh you're up to go down.
Sometimes they might need to go into the world of the boat and sometimes they might need to flick
the switch and the boat comes out in the real world.
What just happened?
While we went into the boat or the boat came into our world?
Quick, throw me the View Master because we've got to get in the boat or the boat comes to
our world.
That's right.
We did it.
The end.
Anything can be good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not this obviously.
No.
Who's Robbie Brenner?
I don't know.
That's the name that I've heard. Anything can be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not this obviously.
No.
Who's Robbie Brenner?
I don't know.
That's the name they put here.
Here we go.
It's a fake name.
President of Mattel Films.
There you go.
The Easy Bake Oven was introduced in 1963 by Kenner and currently manufactured by Hasbro.
So they are not even in the running for this.
They should have been.
Yeah, I agree.
Instead they're trying to make G.I. Joe.
Yuck.
They could have filled that warehouse at the end of Transformers with Easy Bake Ovens.
They could have done anything and they did nothing.
They did nothing.
Anyway, Mason, that sounds shit.
We've got a poster for the next Karate Kid movie.
That's right.
Stars Jackie Chan who returns as...
I don't think he is Mr. Meaghan, is he?
No, he's not.
Which is good because they're merging the Karate Kid universes.
Yeah.
Because Ralph Marchio was in it.
And there's a kid.
And there's a kid called, his name is Ben Wang, and he was in American Born Chinese,
which is apparently a very good show.
Oh, interesting.
That I didn't watch and people liked it, but then they cancelled it.
And you're going to watch it.
Yes.
Great.
The story will reportedly take place on the East Coast, focusing on a teenager from China.
So this is also apparently going to be set in the world of Cobra Kai etc. but it's not going to really
acknowledge the events when all those kids got in a fight at that school all
the time. Okay sure. And are we getting Hillary Swank? Hillary Swank, thank you.
You need to stop asking that question Mason. Okay. You're only gonna set
yourself up for disappointment. Okay. Yeah. I'll even take Hillary Swank from
the end of Million Dollar Baby. Okay, she broke her neck on that chair
She died at the end. I'll still take it though. Take a dead Hillary swank. Yep
Yeah, that's what you want man. Yeah, that's right. She can be in the crowds. Yep cheering. No. Oh
Yeah, what's this called karate kid legends or something maybe karate kids zero origins
The revenge the revenge. I think apparently Williams Abca is gonna be in it. Maybe okay nice What's this called? Karate Kid Legends or something? Maybe Karate Kid Zero Origins. The Revenge.
The Revenge. I think apparently William Zabka is going to be in it maybe.
OK, nice. Yeah.
After the release of a new model in May 2006, Easy Back Oven,
Hasbro received reports of 29 children getting their hands or fingers
caught in the front loading door.
Oh, yeah, that'll do it. Yeah.
So, yeah, he he plays.
Yeah, his name's Mr. Han.
Okay.
Jackie Chan's character.
That's terrific.
My God.
My God.
My God.
My God.
All right.
It's just wonderful, I think.
I agree.
Let's move on.
This is the last bit of news.
Go on.
We got a first look at Crypto the Superdog.
That's right, we did.
Ripped straight from the comics.
That's right.
James Gunn.
What do you mean, ripped straight from the comics? They stole this idea what from a comic book you common thief James gun
I agree how dare you but isn't there because so the controversy or controversy depending where you're from
Yeah, is that this this is not what you would think of perhaps when you think of crypto the super go because crypto is often like a
Labrador not exclusively, but not exclusively, that's what I'm saying.
James, we'll get to that.
Well, this is the initial.
First of all, I love the image.
I love it.
They're on the moon.
Yep.
Crypto arrives on screens in Superman this summer.
This is by James Gunn.
Crypto was inspired by our dog Uzo, who we adopted shortly after I started writing Superman.
Uzo came from a hoarding situation to back out with 60 other dogs and never knew human
beings.
James Gunn, what did you do with the other 59 dogs?
Says he killed them all.
Oh no, but that's classic James Gunn.
I agree.
Zack Snyder never would have killed all those dogs.
No, he'd have killed more.
The dog was problematic to say the least.
Oh wow.
Racist.
He immediately came and destroyed our home, our shoes, our furniture.
He even ate my laptop.
I'm about to explain some of your bloody scripts for bloody Peacemaker.
Got it!
No, actually, that's a great show.
Thank you.
I took a long time before he would even let us touch him. I remember thinking, gosh, how
difficult life would be if Uzo had superpowers. And thus, Crypto came into the script and
changed the shape of the story as Uzo was changing our life. What better time to debut
the not so good boy Crypto than Adopt Shelter Dog Month.
Speaking of bloody dogs.
Oh, is it always here? Um,
Well, I was, it's Uzu today is fairly often a very good boy.
I was going to say, well, Uzu's a horrible liqueur. Yeah. Um,
has he cast Uzu as the dog or is it a different dog?
I hope it's a real dog and not a, um, like a CGI dog,
which it will be for some of it. But someone asked me about,
this is not what crypto looks like.
And he said, no, crypto is historically
a generic white dog, sometimes also a lab,
white shepherd, husky or Dalmatian.
But obviously he's an alien,
so it wouldn't necessarily be exactly any one of those things.
I was going to say, and he also posted a pic,
because a lot of people like, brr,
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She was a goo woman.
She was a goo woman who looked, who could change shape
and she changed into the shape of Supergirl.
She was a goo woman.
She was a goo woman, but there was a Krypto.
Yes.
And he was a non-powered dog, there was a guy called Bibbo,
who's like a good-natured oaf in that,
I don't know if he's still in continuity,
but he adopts a dog called he calls crypto
He's gonna call it Krypton, but there wasn't enough space on the
So he gets called crypto and occasionally he's got you know, he's got the cape or whatever
But yes a regular dog, but that he looks like this crypto
There is like this precedent is precedent there is legal precedent. Thank God allowed to this is allowed to happen
I allow it to happen.
Yeah.
I've heard some people complain that there seems to be a lot going on in this Superman movie.
You know, like they pack in this two full of comic book lore and characters.
But the thing is.
If they didn't, they'd be like, where's the lore and characters?
Well that and like movies, just movies in general, have a lot of people and
sometimes dogs in them.
Yeah, that's true.
And so I think it's okay that, yeah, there's a dog in this and sometimes dogs in them. Yeah, that's true.
And so I think it's okay that, yeah, there's a dog in this and it just happens to be crypto.
Also James Gunn said he's going to kill the dog early on.
Good!
He's going to kill the dog.
His dog at home, like the others that he killed.
Yeah.
Oh good.
Yeah, yeah.
So honestly, I don't have a problem with this.
I think it's going to be fun to have a cheeky crypto kind of cameo or appearance or whatever.
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Mason. Mason.
Yep.
I am.
Go on.
Very excited for a Superman movie.
Me too.
I am.
There's a moment, and I think I talked about this to some people I met at one of the live
shows that I did.
They're like, what are you looking forward to?
And I'm like, Superman.
I remember I saw some leaked footage or some set footage where Superman and a bunch of
other superheroes land.
Oh yes.
And it's like...
Mr. Terrific's on his little jet device?
Yeah and whatever and there's like Guy Gardner.
Not whatever!
No, whatever!
Wow.
No, there's like Guy Gardner and Hawkeye or whatever and there's like a bunch of kids around and they all kind of just walk past.
And all these kids like run up to Superman, he like picks them up and he's like,
Ahhhh!
He eats them?
Yeah, he eats them.
Oh no. But just that idea that he's just like universally loved and takes the time to be kind.
Yeah.
And the way that people-
Like Zack Snyder does.
Like Zack Snyder.
And I just saw that and went, I don't know, I think this is on the right track.
I don't know.
That's just like a very short clip.
Yeah.
But I like the idea of this Superman, like this impossible person, like existing. Yeah. You know, I don't know whether he's gonna nail it. I feel I feel good about it though
Yeah, how do you feel about it? As long as he eats enough kids? I reckon yeah, you gotta he's got a power your Kryptonian heart
That's right. Yeah, and that's law and canon. It's so true, isn't it? Yeah. All right. Should we move it along?
Let's move it along. That's all the news big news big news week. What are we gonna do now?
What we're eating what else we gonna do what we gonna read? All right, we don news week. What we're gonna do now what we're eating what else we're gonna do
What we're gonna read we don't normally do what we're gonna read might come up, but it doesn't matter. Here's the theme song
Well, well indeed we're talking about well well well, what do you mean up?
Well, we both read the first issue of Absolute Batman, right? He's a big fella.
He's a very big fella.
And all his villains and heroes are his friends he grew up with.
Oh yeah, maybe, potentially.
Maybe, we don't know.
So this is the debut of DC's Absolute Universe, which is-
And he's an absolute unit this book.
He is an absolute unit, yeah.
This is written by Scott Snyder and Nick Dragota, I think, has done the artwork.
Okay.
Quick look, yes. Nick Dragota.
And it's a reimagining of Batman.
It's like Ultimate Batman.
Well, see, that's the thing.
So for years Marvel had an Ultimate Universe, which was a kind of a re-, you know, a new modern re-imagining of many of their popular heroes.
And they've got-, they're doing it again. Yeah. And so and they've got the new Ultimates and
this is would you say this is DC's reaction to this or is this just a
coincidence do you think? I don't know I think it's just they like to reboot you
know they like to try new things but yeah I would say I probably looked at
Ultiman Marvel and went yeah that's doing really well like Spider-Man for example.
Yeah and so this is a version of Batman. He's poor. He's poor and he's huge. He's poor and huge. He's um
Yeah, they've I think there's two ways to do this sort of modern reimagining and in we've got over on Marvel
We've got the Ultimates. Yeah, which is
you
Change a piece of comic book history or make me make a change
What if style and
then then build that into an entire universe what what are the ramifications
what are the you know what are the what's what are the avalanche of changes
knock on effects but with this they've just been like what if Batman was really
big what if we did a bunch of stuff that's awesome so big and awesome and
he's cars a big truck he's gonna be in the dump truck I don't know where he's keeping that but uh but he's doing it isn't it so in this awesome and he's cars a big truck. It's gonna be in the big dub truck
I don't know where he's keeping that but uh, but he's doing it isn't it? So in this version, so he's a construction worker
Yeah, well, he's an engineer. I'm sorry. Yeah, and he's but he's not rich
No, my family and not rich and and this is a world in which the Gotham City is sort of being overrun by like murderous gangs
Yeah, it feels more like a roboCop situation, did you feel
that? Oh definitely, that's a good comparison. And there's a Joker maybe, but maybe he's
a rich fellow or something. But this version of Batman, he doesn't kill once again. But
he does have spindly arms. He's not averse to chopping a man's arm off. No, he'll do
that. And we've got of course a version of Alfred who's kind of a yeah former mi6 agent
I think who's returning to Gotham to
He's been chasing a target. Yeah
I see what's going on wants to see what's going on. He's looking at this Batman and gone
This guy's freaking incredible. Should I shoot him? No, like no, maybe don't interesting
And what do you think about Batman's cape technology? Because there is it's almost like a supernatural kind of yeah
It's almost it's into that that he's not he did I it's almost like a supernatural kind of yeah it's almost
it's hinted at that he's not he did i said that he's built this kind of extendo almost like spider
man extra arm kind of yeah it's definitely well i mean they've gone with they've almost gone with
the rat arm yeah well yeah that's true they've almost they've they've gone with it feels a little
bit like they've gone with the dimensions of an actual bat.
Oh, okay.
Like he's got a big bulky body and then these enormous spindly skeletal kind of wing arm situations.
That's an interesting observation, Mason.
Yeah. But what did you think about the story?
I liked it. I mean, it's issue one, so you can't really...
I know I'm really interested to see what Superman's gonna. Well, they're gonna Yeah, so we've got to talk about the upcoming line. We've got on the cards. We've got
Absolute Superman and absolute Wonder Woman. Yeah, you take some absolute units and they are absolute units and also we've got on the way
There's an absolute flash which is gonna be a Wally West version of the flash
Okay, an absolute Green Lantern is a lady Green Lantern, but my favorite one is
Absolute Martian Manhunter. This has just been announced. I don't know this. I don't yeah
Well, um, give it a give it a squeeze on the old computer there
But it's by Denise camp and Havia Rodriguez Denise camp did he's doing the Ultimates over at Marvel
Okay, which is doing very well and people are enjoying that a lot and he also did that comic 20th century men that I loaned you
We're gonna do for the book club. We're definitely gonna do that at some point. Oh god. He's got a weird one. I oh, yeah, so so
Denny's camp set of this character and this is the biggest reimagining I think Martians in this world
They're not really from Mars
This is one of the most dramatic reimaginings in the absolute universe FBI agent
John Jones is invaded by an alien consciousness that selects Martian from his mind to describe what it is
The book is about a complete outsider's perspective on the world combined with a
complete insider's view of the world. The series is Jones slowly going insane but
in a really fun kind of way. And he's sort of like a he's sort of like a gum
gumby claymation kind of character. One eye, one big red eye. Yeah. I don't mind this at all.
I'm looking forward to that. When's that one out? Dunno, doesn't say. Dunno, doesn't say. Probably a million years.
Yeah.
Probably in a million years.
What an absolute big, slappy-handed year.
Yeah, but I don't know, this first issue of Absolute Batman,
it does feel like, again, it's not,
it's not you take a pin out of this, you go,
okay, well, what if Batman's parents weren't killed
or something like that, but otherwise it's the same.
It's just like, what if Batman was really big?
Yeah. What if, you know, when you see somebody do like,
like Frank Miller, an homage of like,
Frank Miller Dark Knight returns Batman
and they just make him even bigger?
It's like, what if there was an entire comic book
based on that guy?
Oh my God.
Love all of that, Mason.
Yeah, I'm gonna keep up.
I'm gonna at least read the next few issues
to see what's going on.
Have you read any of The Ultimates or Ultimates Spider-Man? Yeah, I'm a couple behind, but yeah, I'm going to keep up. I'm going to at least read the next few issues to see what's going on. Have you read any of The Ultimates or Ultimates Spider-Man?
Yeah, I'm a couple behind, but yeah, I'm enjoying it.
Pretty good, right?
Yeah, I like it a lot. I like him. He's better than the regular Peter Parker who sucks.
Did I speak about this on the podcast or maybe on something else? It feels a little bit-
They're going to make him the real Peter Parker?
It feels like they're making the mainline Spider-Man so unbelievably unlikable that their the day their plan is to do like a universe merge and replace him with the ultimate spider hell
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Why not and then change it again in a few years
Yeah, change it back. Make him divorced again. Make him double divorced. Do it
But now he's got he's got a strange kids as well. He's extra sad. Do it. Do it
You better do it. Now you also wanted to talk about woman of the Hour. I can talk about this next week, but why not? Let's go. So
Woman of the Hour, it's on Netflix. It's directed and starring Anna Kendrick and it's based
fairly closely with some additional fictional elements about a woman who went on a dating
show in the late 70s and the contestant that she matched with is a real life serial killer who spent a decade murdering women, seemingly just openly. And which is what which
is what happened back then. Yeah. And no and people were like, get this guy's a murderer
and nobody listened. Yeah. And it's it's claimed in the movie, at least that he might like
these I think they got him for like seven or eight. He could have killed like a hundred
plus. They don't really know and also a couple
of murders he committed was when he got discovered and arrested and then he was
out on bail and then he killed like a child and a woman yeah I mean that that
has happened or didn't that Ted Bundy did that Bundy did it somebody when I
think that guy's gonna kill me and the place were like nah don't worry about it
this guy killed all these people probably not and if you look at the Ted
Bundy trial there is that the judge in the end is like,
you're actually seeing like a standup young man and it's a shame it went this way.
Like what is wrong with you?
Like this was an era and this still happens.
Yeah.
You know, people aren't believe women specifically aren't believed.
You know, you told you hysterical or people refusing to like join the dots.
It's also about like being told told to ignore your instincts and just be
nice for the sake of being nice, keep the peace. Where no, there's this great book,
I think it's called, unless it's been all debunked, in which case I don't believe this,
it's called The Gift of Fear.
Is it your favorite book, The Secret?
Yeah, that's how I manifested this room temperature drink.
Oh, which, no, the game. It's both. Yeah, room temperature drink. Oh, I would, you know what?
The game.
Yeah, it's both.
Yeah, right, right.
Negging.
Oh my God, just that, the game, the secret omnibus.
Imagine the power of that.
Put those together.
Oh my God.
We should open a publishing house.
I agree.
So if you get one of those books,
you flip upside down and it's the end of the book.
Two books, it's two books.
Yeah.
The gift of fear, and it's basically like,
I've only read snippets of it so who
am I to say? But it's basically, yeah, you don't ignore that instinct, you know? Like
any time that you feel uncomfortable, you could even be wrong. But who cares? You don't
have to do anything. You can, you know, if you can, like you can, you know.
You could be midway through doing a podcast, just run out.
Just fucking leave. Just leave. Anyway, it's-
You're probably going to get murdered if you're in a room with a podcast just run out. Just fucking leave. Just leave. Anyway, you're probably gonna get murdered if you're in a room with a podcast. Get out of there.
Yeah. So yeah, really good, strong, directional debut from Anna Kendrick.
Is that like a directorial debut? No. No Mason. Apparently I read this. She was
originally just attached to be in it and then the other director dropped out for
whatever reason and she went in to kind of pitch it and she she went like, oh, I guess you could take me.
I could do it if you want.
I don't know.
You know, you probably don't want me.
And they were like, go away.
Really think about this and pitch us again tomorrow.
And she came back and then they were like, you can do it.
Yeah.
But yeah, I'm I because I'm not really a true crime person.
I don't really I find it's all a bit grubby.
Yeah, but I will watch this because it's anicand I find it's all a bit grubby. But I will watch this
because it's Anna Kendrick in it.
And it is grubby, but I think it's interesting her perspective in particular. She also did
a movie where she starred in a movie which is incredible. It's called Alice Darling,
which is about a woman who she plays who's in an emotionally abusive relationship and
trying to escape that, but also what that comes with. And it's not one of those things
where-
She's also in the Twilight movies.
She's in the Twilight movies and Trolls. But it's also it's not one of those things where she's also in the Twilight movies and trolls
but it's also it's one of those things where
You know you'd you'd kind of because it's not an openly like I'm being struck
Yeah, it's kind of like I am I imagining this is this me or whatever. Yeah, it's it's an amazing movie
So I would say I mean, it's a harrowing watch but Alice Darling like paired with this
Probably won't watch them both at once. No, I wouldn't I'll watch this movie the newest one. Yeah, and then I will watch
Pitch perfect to yeah, good one. It's a good one rebel Wilson. Mm-hmm
Great movie great. It's on Netflix. So I hope it gets saying but who knows with Netflix. Yeah, God
We gotta move it along don't we let's move it along to what let's move it along. To what? Let's move it along, I reckon, to the letters theme.
I mean, to the letter segment.
Segment. Yeah, but the theme.
The theme will proceed. That'll help.
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The classic one was
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That's good stuff for Taylor.
Says hello fellas, I love your podcast and I love you both.
Well, you know.
Yeah, we're lovable.
Yeah, we are.
That's not your, your feelings are valid.
I was wondering if you could erase the memories of one video game and experience it all over
again.
What game would you fellas pick?
Love Sam.
Goo, goo, goo, I'm a baby.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Shadow of the Colossus is great. Oh, Shadow of the Colossus. But I could just'm a baby. Yeah, that's a good one. Shadow of the Colossus is great.
But I could just play that again.
Yeah, that's true.
But Shadow of the Colossus is great, spoiler alert,
because you come to a realization
that you are probably the bad guy.
Yeah, that's right.
But it also doesn't even just tell you that.
No.
There's like no dialogue in it.
That's a great game.
It got re-imagined for modern consoles. Re-ined for modern consoles. So that's worth checking out. Or
Jedi Knight 2, Dark Forces 2 Jedi Knight, which is the best game ever made, which we
also covered at BigSandwich.co. I think it is the best. No, you just haven't played it.
So that's probably why you think that, but you're actually wrong and a moron. But other
than that, you're a good friend of mine. I've got a letter. I'd rather not be a moron. You've had to choose good friend of yours and not be a moron.
Think of all the kudos that you can get from me.
Oh yeah, it's true actually.
Yeah.
You may be a moron, but you're on that podcast.
So true.
People might say.
Now I put it out there in the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group.
If you've got any questions, this is from Julia B who's a top contributor.
Thank you, Julia. Love that B who's a top contributor.
Thank you Julia. Love that. That badge. Yeah. No one can take that away from you
except maybe us. Yeah. With admin privileges we could just take that away.
I don't even know man. How does Facebook even work? I don't know. I'll have to watch this social network.
I'd probably delete myself in real life if I tried to do that. Might be right.
She said what happens if James Gunn's Superman isn't good or doesn't do well?
I'll cry. Will Bros. just give up?
Do they even have the veto powers at this point or does Gunn have the power to keep
it going regardless of performance?
I know he's locked in for years, but if it sinks like a stone, like joke or two, something
will happen.
There's got to be like...
They'll slowly...
They'll probably give him another chance and then get rid of him.
Yeah, absolutely. But it would be another chance with a bunch of conditions and yeah.
And like, yeah, what do you think?
I think you're right.
I think, yeah, I mean, if it's a, if it's, if it's a moderate hit, like if it does,
you know, if it hits as well as like the suicide squad, I think a moderate hit
would be fine.
Yeah.
I think, I think they'll be like, you know, I think he's in the position he's
in cause he's, you know, he's had some decent hits at Marvel and DC and he's probably like, you've got to trust
me for X amount of time. And I can turn the ship around as it were. And I think, yeah,
if Superman does even as well as the Suicide Squad or Guardians 3 or what have you.
Do you mean, like, because the Suicide Squad did really badly?
Oh then Guardians 3.
Yeah.
Yes.
I think, I don't think Warner Brothers should be expecting a billion dollar movie.
It would be good if it was, but this is the start of something and I think they should
be like, you'd be happy with the four or five hundred million dollar performance from this.
I think that's what you should, and then you build from there.
You look at the way Iron Man started, you look at the way the new G.I. Joe movies, etc.
The first Transformers movie, the one in 2007, didn't make a billion dollars.
Yeah, it should have.
Yeah, I guess because it's the only one that's good. But Bumblebee, etc. But yeah, I hope
they're not thinking this better make a billion dollars because I think there's a very good
chance that it just won't.
So true.
Yeah. Anyway, got another letter? I'll find another letter. Why are you doing that? I'll
do this one. Okay, from Kieran McLoone. He says, do you have any plans to talk about terrify three?
I thought the first was dog shit. What's the third day and found it to be a massive improvement.
If gory bloodbath. I don't really have any interest in these.
bloodbath. I don't really have any interest in these movies. As far as I can tell, they're pretty, in terms of pushing the narrative, like in terms of
pushing like practical VFX forward, they do quite well. But yeah, I don't have much
interest in a guy just chainsawing people to pieces or whatever.
Yeah.
I'm not.
Not in the movies at least.
No.
No.
No. Yeah, maybe we'll cover them at some point, but yeah, I just don't... I don't know,
maybe I'd love them, but it just doesn't really do anything for me, to be honest.
Mmm.
Yeah, for similar reasons to what you said.
Yass. Uh, here's an email, James.
Oh yeah?
From Joe.
Joe?
Hey James, it's been a long time, first time. Hello from Maryland?
What?
Yeah, that's home of the um...
Braves.
I don't think so.
No? It's got that big bell with a crack in it.
Yeah, the Maryland big cracky bell.
Okay, good.
I recently watched the newest episode
of the Corridor Crews VFX artist React
during which they looked at clips
from the Rusty Crow movie Noah.
Oh yeah, they did.
As a big Rusty Crow fan, I skipped over this one at the time
because I had no interest in watching a Grim and Groovy
Noah's Ark movie that looked like a gladiator ripped off.
Turns out it was directed by Darren Anoronofsky.
Yeah. And the bits shown during the Corridor Cruise segment looked
pretty good. Yes. I have seen it. Yeah, yeah. It is simultaneously stupid and kind
of awesome. I would like to petition you guys to add it to your upcoming Rusty
Crow trilogy of historical epics as I'm assuming you'll be doing Gladiator,
Master and Commander and the extremely dull Robin Hood movie. Well, look, you're
on the right track. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you might not have the right three movies.
That's right. We're doing Gladiator, Master and Commander, Virtuosity.
That's right. We already just figured it out.
Apple, Denial, probably.
Maybe. Well, we talked about this,
but if we did, because there's going to be a new Hugh Jackman Robin Hood movie.
So we could do like Kevin Costner's one, that Taron Egerton one, and
then the Rusty Crow one, and package those together. And we probably wouldn't do many
in tights because it's a comedy and it's not really, comedies don't really play well, I
feel like. They're hard to kind of...
And also when it butts up against our quote unquote comedy, people are like...
It's too much comedy.
It's too much comedy.
It's too many good jokes. So yeah, so it will probably be Virtu comedy. Yeah. People like. It's too much comedy. It's too much comedy. It's too many good jokes.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So it will probably be Virtuosity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice.
But yeah, it is worth, is it worth, I don't know, I have to revisit it.
I shouldn't say worth watching.
I don't remember.
Yeah.
Go on, Mason.
Here's one more email.
This is from Martin.
Martin.
Who said, six foot five question mark.
Oh yeah, too big.
Hi chaps.
Six foot five is too tall, is it?
I'm six foot five and let me tell you it is.
Cars are too tall, cars don't even fit, let alone chairs or trousers.
Why do you want to fit cars in you?
Yeah, that's crazy, that wouldn't work for anybody.
Yeah, what are you doing?
That's a micro machine or a matchbox car.
Movies on the way, by the way.
The good.
Yeah, or a Hot Wheels?
Yeah, it's one of those.
Hot Wheels.
It got me thinking of films where the protagonist just doesn't fit with their environment.
Like Tom Cruise's Reacher or Dwayne Johnson as a 16th century Spanish conquistador.
Any others?
Anyway, love the podcast.
Like physically, the wrong proportions.
Yeah, proportions, right?
It's interesting.
I know they had to rebuild a bunch of sets on the Phantom Menace because Liam Neeson
was too tall
You see yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah god who's too big?
I mean though I mean too big or too small. Yeah, it's all too small. It's also because
Reacher's interesting because again and I would love to know the backstory behind that because Reacher in the books and is you know
Accurately in the TV series. He's famously enormous the entire premise of the whole point that he is so big
You know that the only one who could possibly beat him is that weirdo who's even bigger than him?
That's right. Yeah, but like I don't and it's not even they didn't even do
Like that movie that those those Tom Cruise reaching movies
They don't even do like perspective tricks not make him look like the same size as everybody else.
In a lot of instances, he does look smaller than everybody else.
I don't understand why...
Why they would go that way.
Did somebody put it in his ear like, people will...
When you adopt this acting posture, the audience will feel that you're bigger.
They'll know you're big.
Right?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I honestly don't know what they were thinking with that.
I mean, they made two.
Yeah.
And they made us rebrand, never go back to Caravan of Garbage.
It's true.
They did.
Yeah.
There's two things I noticed.
I don't have any other top made, even just Googling this.
I, there's not really anything here that kind of fits that description.
No.
Yeah.
Freakishly tall.
Freakishly tall, James.
I should have given you this one in advance, but I've only just seen it.
Well, that's okay, Mason. I don't know. Let's say Christian Bale.
Okay. He seems very normally sized.
Yeah, but he would be, wouldn't he?
Yeah. No, he would, wouldn't he?
Yeah. Brendan Fraser was too big in The Whale. I haven't seen that movie, but that guy looked too big.
Too big? Yeah.
He looks too big.
I understand.
I just think that's unhealthy.
Yeah. Oh, next one, I guess. Sorry. I said the Liam Neeson thing. Is that not good enough?
That's perfectly good. So they had to rebuild the, I mean, obviously-
They had to roll the green screen up a bit higher.
Like there, but that's interesting as well, because it's like sci-fi fantasy,
because like the environment can really look like anything I think it'll be I wonder if there are and there must be cases where they've had to actually had to
Like it is Lord of the Rings obviously. Oh, yeah must be cases where they've had to like
physically change the size of like just
Apartment yeah feelings or whatever because somebody was too tall for the role or too small to so too tall or so small
It's from Martin Gibson Gibbs sorry, Gisby.
Gisbo.
Yeah.
Gisbo.
The Gizzah.
Would either of you two want to be on Australian Taskmaster?
I'd pay for a sponsored VPN and some shitty Australian stream
and like Stan or whatever just to watch that.
We don't really, I mean, we know people on those shows,
but we don't really, it's not really our world.
I'm not very competitive. I'm incredibly competitive, but we don't really, it's not really our world. I'm not very competitive.
I'm incredibly competitive, but I don't have any drive.
Yeah.
You know, which makes me non-competitive.
Yeah.
Um, I dunno, if somebody literally reached out from the show, I would consider it,
but I wouldn't go out of my way to, um, what are they paying?
Yeah.
What?
Nothing I'd imagine.
But I, the thing is like, we also, we don't't, sounds kind of arrogant, but we don't need to do
it.
I'm not saying I wouldn't do it, but like, we don't have to hustle for like, to get beyond
this.
This is where we're very comfortable doing it at this level.
I've Googled freakishly tall actors, James.
What have we got?
Well, Dwayne Johnson.
He's there.
Did you know Goldblum's taller than him?
Oh.
Dwayne Johnson is 1.93, Jeff Goldblum's 1.95, Liam Neeson's 1.93. He's big. Tim
Robbins is 1.96. He's big. Brad Garrett's 2.04. He's big. Cromwell, James Cromwell
2.01. James Cromwell's that big? Yeah, he's big. And that would be, that wouldn't be
Hollywood height because he's what, like, yeah, he's got no reason to lie that guy.
I didn't know that James Cromwell was that big. Yeah that's right.
Hugh Jackman's there but they haven't put his height. Hugh Jackman's like 6'2 I
reckon. Okay Nicholas Braun 2.01 Richard Keele Jaws 2.18 I think so these
are all good heights I think. These are great heights to be as long as they're not
6'5. Matthew McGrory is 2.29 I don't know who that is. Yeah Jackman's 6'2. Okay yeah
all right. Which is a little bit taller. Matthew McGrory is 2.29, I don't know who that is. Yeah, Jackman's 6'2". Okay. Yeah.
Alright.
Which is a little bit taller than me.
Matthew McGroary is 7'6".
Guinness World Records says he's the tallest actor.
Wouldn't that be that dude from Star Wars who plays Chewbacca or whatever?
Maybe.
Anyway, Mason.
But also the Guinness Book of World Records.
It's like...
It's like a lie.
Lying books for morons.
It's exactly right.
Like you.
Yeah, I know.
Alright, Mason, we've got to wrap it up.
Let's wrap it up. I've got to get to this gig.
We've got to get, if people want to email in, let us know if you can think of a situation
where they've had to like.
Actors too big or too small.
Too small.
They've had to accommodate the entire production around them being too big or too small.
That's right.
You know.
Lord of the Rings, etc.
Gimli's actually 6'1".
Exactly.
There we go, there's one.
Is anybody sure?
Dorf on golf.
Shoes on his knees.
Gary. You know I love Dorf on Golf. Shoes on his knees. She's on his knees. Gary, I love, you don't love Dorf on Golf.
I know you do.
Gary Oldman in Tiptoes did the whole thing on his knees.
He's not really a little person.
Oh no, that's bad actually.
Actually that's good acting and you don't recognize that.
It's no Dorf on Golf.
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