The Weekly Planet - 549 Venom: The Last Dance

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

Eddie Brock/Venom is back in the latest SPUMM (Sony Pictures Universe Of Marvel Movies) to grace our screens in the biggest year of SPUMM ever. Plus we talk Christopher Nolan's latest movie starring Tom Holland, sequels to Alien Romulus, Prey and another Alien VS Predator crossover, a trailer for Love Hurts, Blade delayed again probably for a while and some big updates around Spider-Man 4. Thanks for listening!New Resident Evil 4 let's play bonus video out now! Visit bigsandwich.co for bonus weekly shows including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Maybe skip an extra few minutes.03:41 Tom Holland Christopher Nolan Movie12:04 Alien: Romulus Sequel & More Predator Movies19:50 Love Hurts Trailer Ahoy26:18 Blade MCU Movie Delayed Again30:23 Spider-Man 4 Release Date36:37 Venom: The Last Dance Review58:12 Venom: The Last Dance Spoiler Segment01:12:25 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:17:44 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Listen to Heaven Bent wherever you get your podcasts. ACAST helps creators launch, grow and monetize their podcasts everywhere. ACAST.com. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always is my co-host Nick Mason. I'm here. I'm excited to have a good time. We're going to talk about the movies. Absolutely. We are.

And one movie in particular. Which movie do you think? Vanim the Last Dance. Vanim the Last Dance, Mason. New movie. New good movie that we can talk about. Yeah. People might want to skip to that because they're like- Or skip around it. Or skip around it. That's fine too. Which they might be doing in real life also.

Some people have venomed out, Mason. Some people just want to skip. That's true. And that's cool too, I think. God. I think you down. Some people just want to skip. That's true. Cool too. I think God, I think you could skip right now. Like me physically. Yeah. Sure, man.

Definitely. You know, with a rope or is it like riding a bike? You never forget how to skip. I think I could do it. Yeah. Do you think I can't? I think I wouldn't be able to. I think you could.

You've relearned how to skip. Yeah. I can take you out to a golf course. We could do it together. Okay. That's really good. We'll have to carry clubs so people think that we're there for golf. But we'll be skipping.

Yeah, yeah. If anybody questions us, we kill them. Because we've got the clubs. Yeah, we've got the clubs. And a sand trap we could bury them in. Or a water hazard. Yeah. Exactly. Well, Mason, we are... Or Donald Trump's wife's grave. Mason, come on, mate. Okay. He's running for president. That makes sense then actually, yeah. Makes sense that's where he buried his wife.

So, in the lead up of course, we're talking the news of the week. We're talking some casting in Christopher Nolan's latest film. Oh, yes. Which includes one, Tomathy Holland. Tomathy Holland and Matholy Damon. That's right. And we might have a synopsis for that. I think we do. I think we hit, because people were back and forth. They're like, is this espionage?

Is it something else? And this, this log line. They said, is it Roy Schneider's Blue Thunder? Yeah. This one came completely out of left field. We'll talk about it. Yeah, we'll talk about it. Yeah.

Although some people were like, I heard the rumors. Did you? How? What? Yeah. Shut up. You liar. Yeah, you're a liar.

We'll bury you. Yeah, we'll bury you. We'll bury you on a golf course. Next to Donald Trump's wife. That's right. Well, now we. We'll bury you. We'll bury you on a golf course. Next to Donald Trump's wife. That's right. Well, now we can't cut it out. Why not?

Why can't we cut this out also? That's true. It'd be a great honour too. People would love that. Mason, we're also going to get into some alien slash predator slash alien versus predator news. Big news, big reveals this week. That's right.

Yeah. We've got a trailer for Love Hurts, which is the latest from- The greatest. And greatest from Kehi Kwan, who's back. He's back in a big way. We're going to talk some MCU stuff also, including how Blade is delayed probably forever. Although some people- Or at least the actor is probably gone.

Well, some people have said, brumas have said, he's like, no, I was on a call and I love waiting five years. Oh, he loves it. Yeah, he was on a call with people. And he loved the whole time? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Feels real, doesn't it?

Feels very real. It's good to know that even celebrities can be on a call for a really long time. They're just like us. Yeah. And we've got some Spider-Man 4 also details, including a release date and director. Oh, yeah. God, Rob Colling's the one who edits this. He sorted all that out. Also, it's of course, we're coming up on the spookiest week

of the year and I'm not just talking about Tax Time Mason. What are you talking about? It's the Halloween season. Thank you for the constant reminders, by the way. I haven't done my tax return. You gotta do your tax time, Mason. I gotta do it this week. I gotta do it in the next couple of days. In addition to that, at BigSandwich.co this week, we are going, we covered two Resident Evil games. It's the same game. We did Resident Evil 4 and then Resident Evil 4 again, the remake. But not the new remake.

Yes. We did? Yeah, we did the 2005 one and then when they re-released it last year. Okay, so we did the original. And we compared and contrasted. Okay, sure. We had a fun time. We did have a fun time.

It's like 45 or 48 minutes long. Yeah. And if you want to see me getting some real strife in that village Mason. Yeah, you really make some progress in that 48 minutes. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. You're not wrong. It was really fun to do. All right, let's start with this Mason.

This is by Good Morning America. Good Morning America. Good Morning America. And in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Very good. And then Truman goes back for another season. Does he? Yeah. Did we talk And then Truman goes back for another season. Does he? Yeah.

Did we talk about this? Yeah, we did recently. You were like, what if Truman just went back in, they convinced him to go back in and do another season. When did I say that? Oh, we recorded for Master and Commander maybe? Maybe. Yeah, Peter Weir.

Anyway, Tom Holland. He's apparently here. Hello. Hello. Oh, he's here. Yeah. Okay. He's in Christopher Olin's next here. Hello. Oh, he's here. Yeah. Okay. He's in Christopher Olin's next film apparently. He's said to be incredibly excited.

Weeeee. I'm over the moon. But he's also, for people who can't see Tom Holland, he also has a yo-yo, so he might be talking about that. I'm walking the dog. All right, Tom. But he's also got a dog with him, so maybe that. He, yeah. I'm walking the dog. All right, Tom. But he's also got a dog with him. So maybe that's just, you know.

Yeah. It's been indoors all day. He needs to get some exercise. Exactly. He says he's obviously honored. I'm obviously honored. And he said he has no knowledge about what the project is about. Stop asking me.

We weren't asking you, Thomas. He said he's still 100% yes without a shadow of a doubt. He said when the oppo... Well you can read this Tom. Why thank you. I mean I said it earlier. Yeah, yeah, just if you need a reminder. Oh okay.

Yeah. We like to be accurate. When the opportunity came in it was a phone call of a lifetime reminiscent of getting a call about Spider-Man 10 years ago. Oh yeah, you were Spider-Man, weren't you? I was Spider-Man. And I was Cherry. You were Cherry. And I was Romeo.

You were Nathan Drake. I was Nathan Drake. Nathan Drake. Nathan Drake. Okay, cool. I was on those pirate ships I was swinging about. Yeah, man, we know. I know, and I know.

You know that we know, though. Yes. Okay, sorry. It's an amazing thing for me. I'm super proud and I'm really, really excited. Are you? Yeah. No word of a lot what I wouldn't like you, James.

I hope not. That would be really disappointing, actually. Thanks, Tom. He's going to be joining Matthew Damon. Yep. He doesn't have a funny voice. Thanks, Tom. He's gonna be joining Matthew Damon. Yep. He doesn't have a funny voice. No, he doesn't. No, you could do the South Park thing or whatever.

Oh, I forgot, yeah, no, that's hack. Remember that was a thing forever? No, that's hack now. What we do is fresh. That's hack. Okay, good. Via production weekly though, there's apparently word on what this movie's about.

Well, there's a little production one sheet, one she something and there's some other. It's oddly worded as well. Do you have to? I don't have that. I'll find it. But apparently it's going to be about a pair of aerial helicopter cops. That's exactly it. We just as a pair of aerial helicopter cops. This like chips, but with as opposed to ground based helicopter cops.

Hell, yeah, brother. They're cops within a helicopter, but it's on the back of a flatbed. They haven't received authorization to fly it. That's good. You should get that. A pair of aerial helicopter cops with an older mentor and a younger lead. So presumably this is Matthew DeMond, Thomas Hollande. But who's the older guy? Who's the younger guy? Not sure yet. I guess we'll have to wait till the movie comes out. I love that, again, people have pointed this out. It's apparently because Christopher Nolan loves the 1983 Roy Scheider movie Blue Thunder. Hell yeah he does. And potentially the 1984 TV series.

Stealth, helicopter, look at women nude through the building. Remember that? Now Dana Carvey was either in Blue Thunder the series or Airwolf the series. Okay. And I refuse to look at it. I can do that for you. And the other series had Ernest Borgnein in it. Okay. So these are all good.

It's fun, isn't it? Danacabi was in Blue Thunder season one. Hell yeah. God, you're very good. But isn't that, what an interesting, what is this gonna be? Dick Butkus was also in it. Of course he was.

He looks a lot like Con the Fruitera in this picture. Goodness. My goodness. It's all good stuff. It is all good stuff. Well, it looks like we're revisiting Blue Thunder. I mean, yeah, I guess. No, I mean us.

OK. And again, I guess the like, you know, if you if you dig deep into this movie, I guess it's got themes that Christopher Nolan will be interested in. It's got espionage, surveillance and like, you know, when does militarizing the police go too far, et cetera? When does it? But also, I would love it if it was just called like Helicopse. Yeah, it's just a real straight ahead, very sincere 1980s action movie. I ain't not very good. And there's no hidden, there's no hidden lies whatsoever.

It's just just cops. It's just cops peeking in through window Yeah, yeah, so the original had Roy Schneider John Badham Malcolm McDowell Daniel Stern I'm loving this home alone zone, so they couldn't get Daniel Stern for the TV series, so they got Dana Carvey. I guess I guess Okay, so there was a reddit post from Doc Jamie J from a little bit back who said, yeah, this is going to be in the vein of 1983's Blue Thunder. Okay.

He said... Or Airwolf. Yeah. Has Nolan come out in like... He hasn't said anything. He hasn't said whether it's going to be more akin to Blue Thunder or Airwolf. This man's mind is a mystery, Mason. What if it's a powerful combination of both?

Blue wolf. What would that look like though? Blue wolf. How do you think that would present? Two helicopters. Well I guess that would, yeah, that makes sense. Two helicopters eating each other's tails. Oh, that's dangerous.

In an ureboros of helicopters. That's what he's all about, isn't it? I guess he would be, wouldn't he? Yeah. Time helicopters. Those Escher stairs, but helicopters. Yeah, that's right about. Isn't it? I guess he would be wouldn't it? Yeah time helicopter Escher's those Escher stairs, but helicopters. Yeah, that's right. What are they called? Escher stairs. Yeah, Escher stairs. Yeah, this is the post. Looking at my stairs. This is the original post Okay, this sounds so made up. My sister's father-in-law works at Floyd Bennett Field in Brooklyn. Okay. I mean this is true

Yeah, I guess this is true. Yeah. So I guess this is right. And there's been excitement about the personnel in the NYPD aviation unit, the Christopher Nolan and key people from his production team will be arriving in November to spend a month with them ahead of the, at a production of his next movie with Matt Damon and the lead helicopters. The word is that the movie will be a New York, will be New York based futuristic action movie about a helicopter Pilot who heads up the aviation unit in the US and the creation of a super advanced yet dangerous helicopter Which is itself being pursued by terrorists nice fuck. Yes

They're pursuing it through the factory like the factory workers. It's coming along the airline. They're putting the rotors on that Yeah, we're gonna put the rotors on skids are coming on The terrorists are walking behind over the put this to be put wheels on this no skids come on time time for wheels God we're going to the air Anyone going into blades anyone going into blades ah for an older movie. Yeah, doesn't feel like about this What happened how do you feel about real stuff happening? No? I do feel filming because he's always filming a real stuff. I'm in favour of real stuff. Remember when he made the the bat? What was that thing, the flying ship, the termite, whatever the one was in Dark Knight Rises? Yeah the bat. Is it just called the bat? It's just called the bat. Great stuff.

It is isn't it? Like that and it looked like a bat which was the best part about it. Yeah it looked a lot like a bat. And not a brick. Looked like a like a like a paving stone you'd put on your you're tiling your roof. Yeah, but really big Yeah, and you wanted a gray roof. Yeah, I want a gray roof. Yeah, I want a gray roof. Maybe yeah, maybe So he he didn't build an obviously a flying one Remember when you get those old really like those just those those really cheap film cameras It had it had that like film canister thing you plugged in at two round bits and a flat bit and you'd sort of clipped it clipped I really don't okay well it looked like that look like that okay well that's good makes perfect sense for Nolan because he would buy stuff does that have a name clicky filmy

candy double can oh right yeah but you remember the bat like he held it up on it was on a thing and whatever he fly through the streets sure I didn't really fly cuz how could it was a brick it was a brick thing and whatever and he'd fly through the streets. Even though it didn't really fly because how could it? It was a brick. It was a brick. Yeah, great stuff. Excited for this? Yes. Time bending? I don't think so. How's a helicopter going to bend time?

People thought... Unless it's a time-copter. Yeah, but like the World War II one, Dunkirk had time bending and that didn't have any time machines in it as far as I know. So true. That I saw. But it did have Kenneth Branagh. And he was like, come along boys. It's true. And so.

Yeah. Yeah. I should watch that again. And Tom Hardy was like, I'm in a different part of this war. Yeah. But I will come along boys. Here we go. You know.

Yeah, I remember. This one's via THR. Alien Romulus II is in the works. Apparently, Feday, which won't be called that ocean. Remus? Will they call it Remus? Probably. Feday Alvarez will of course, Probs return as director. Probs of course.

And it's expected Kayleigh Spany and David Johnson will also return. All right. Thank you. Did the woman who's also Hawkeye and whatever- Isabella Mercer. Does she live in that? Because I feel like she could have. I mean a big alien exploded out of her. Yeah man. Like a really big one.

But then she was alive after for a little bit. Yeah. Then there was some. Did it not eat her? Yeah. I suspect it ate her. There was some interaction. Yeah some interaction.

And we don't remember the details but given that it was an alien movie it probably wasn't a kiss on the forehead. I doubt it. See you later. Thanks mum. I think she probably exploded. I would like if they bring David across. Yeah. What's he doing?

Combine him. Combine him, yeah, mission together. Combine the main universes. Wouldn't that be cool? Yes. Wouldn't that be cool? Yes. I mean, this one was a series of callbacks.

To the earlier ones. To the earlier ones. So this is the next one, from your series of callbacks to the later ones. And I think it mostly worked, except for some one thing, one big thing in particular. There was that throughout most of the movie, sure. Yeah, other than that, I enjoyed it mostly worked except for some one thing one big thing in particular Is that throughout most of the movie? Yeah, other than that. I yeah, I enjoyed it quite a lot

But uh, but also I would like something completely fresh. I would take that also. Oh good luck But what if David came back sure he was like hello Been up to crook shit. Absolutely. Yeah poking around Playing classical music. Yuck. Riding a bike, shooting a basketball. Right. You do too much. Drop one of your hobbies, dipshit. So that's good.

It is good. And not surprising at all. But 20th Century Studios president, Steve Absel, he said, listen, after Prey. Sure. Because you know- He stopped doing an Absel. Yes, he did. Down a mountain.

He said, whoa, hang on, let me just put my carabiner in, he said, into this rock face. After Prey became a success, which is, of course, the last Predator movie. The rock climbers out there, they are gonna be scoffing. They're loving that. They're loving that. They're scoffing at you as if you'd put a carabiner

in a rock face, they'd be saying. No, there would already be a clip in there and then you clip onto that. Oh, somebody's just put a clip in the rock face. Often in popular climbing spots, yes, Mason, there's paths that are clearly marked. And you trust those? Do I trust them? I trust them with my life, Mason.

Prey was a Predator movie. Correct, yes. It did well on streaming. Dan Trachtenberg directed it. He said after Dan came back and he said he didn't want to do Prey 2 and we were like, well you have to. And he said, all right. Now he said, they said, what do you want to do?

And he rattled off a bunch of ideas that they were really crazy, but really cool. We were actually, we've actually done. I'd like to hear them to see how crazy they really were crazy and cool. Crazy and cool. Yeah. What would you rather crazy or cool? I think crazy. Oh, well let's get one crazy one cool.

Then we're both happy. Okay. So we've actually done two of them. Two are coming out next year. One I can't talk about, but the is the live-action predator film with L fanning that just wrapped in New Zealand That'll be out theatrically sometimes next year. So I wonder if one is streaming and one is oh one is theatrical theatrical Think about it. I've had to think about it. Yeah a guy Sunglasses they're on the back of his head. That's crazy. And that's cool. Why is he doing that?

You could be crazy. Oh, you're gonna ask glasses they're on the back of his head that's crazy and that's cool why is he doing that you got it I got it yeah I caught up yeah yeah and on the topic that he's wearing a t-shirt says I'm with stupid but the arrow points up yeah I got myself yeah shouldn't have point down you could do both two arrows up and down cool that's a t-shirt cool I'm Two arrows up and down. Cool. That's a t-shirt. That's cool. I'm with Stupid up and down the weekly planet at the bottom. How much money we get from that? Nothing. We would not get anything. But you had the idea. And I support you. No, thank you. It's my gift to the world. So that's enough. It's my gift to the world. I wanted to, we've done this podcast for 10 years and I just wanted to reach a point where I could make a contribution. I just think. And the contribution is a t-shirt.

I'm a stupid and one points to the guy's head and one points to their dick obviously. Don't you think we should just get 15 bucks each? Don't you think that's good? I guess. Just once? Yeah. Okay, yeah, I guess. That would be cool.

That would be cool. Collings, can you make sure we get 15 bucks each? I would like three fives. I will take $15 in notes. Mason. What? $1515 in notes. Mason. What? $15 note? Mason.

Yes. He also said when asked about Alien vs Predator, he said that movie is likely to happen in the future, but it won't be in the way you think. He doesn't know how I think though, does he? I bet I've nailed it. I bet whatever. The first idea that comes to me will be... Okay, I'll say this and then you say your idea.

That's the thing, not in the way that it will be called Alien vs Predator or anything like the original movies. If we do this, they'll be organically created out of those two franchises that we've continued with characters that we fall in love with and those characters will combine, perhaps. But we haven't gotten to that point yet and we're not just going to bang it out. What do you think about that? Here we go. What's your idea? One works in the big city and they've got a tough job and it's all rush, rush, rush kind of thing. The predator.

Yeah, exactly. It is the predator and he's all rush, rush, rush, rush, rush. But then he meets an alien who's come from the country. They meet in the city. And it's wrong. And what's he like? I mean he's more laid back isn't he? You know? What's he come to the city for? He doesn't understand.

Well he's, um, alien stuff. Alien stuff. Yeah yeah yeah. Probably black goo related. Oh well certainly black goo. Probably carrying a artisanal jar of black goo. Yeah. With like a marmalade cloth top.

Exactly. And they meet in the city and the alien drops his jar of goo. Yeah. And the predator drops all his predator killing like his plank, plank, plank, with a plasma cannon and a spear and whatever. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they have a meet cue.

And they go, you, woo, woo, woo. Yeah, exactly. They don't get along, alien versus predator. But then they do get along. But then they kiss. Yeah, yeah. All their mouths kiss. In a way that we like. That's right.

That's right. Yeah, no, he just said that's true. So I guess he can hear you? Yeah. That's good. It sounds like they're just going to take the characters that they have and mesh them together. It does kind of sound like that, doesn't it? It really does. I mean mean most likely

they'll get the character from, if I had to guess I'd say like they get the character from Prey and then she's in a sequel and she gets picked up by the aliens then they go out in deep space and then relativistic time travel whatever she comes back and it's the future. Yeah and then it's alien versus predator. But she's got a cool crossbow because it's the future it's got a laser sight. Exactly. I mean you can cryo freeze people in this universe. They can also do that, can't they? Yeah, exactly. This is all good stuff.

Oh, I just thought that. Or maybe he's thought of something else. Maybe Dan Trachtenberg's had his made it several. This is Steve Absel. Maybe Steve Absel is up there, not a care in the world doing his abselling. And then he's just like, oh, I've come up with an idea

you've never thought of before. Fine, Steve. Yes, Steve. Steve. You like him? I don't really know, but I guess. All right. I don't reserve judgment. Well, that's good. I mean, I do want to do that. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, it's more of this stuff. I'll tell you more. And did we say somewhere in that, you know, in critical. Yeah, all that rubbish that we just said, one of these might be animated as well. Oh, I didn't hear anything about I heard it may be animated one of that That's that's why that's how you can send the predator movie that because they're bringing out two is well Yeah, because they bring out two and one I did the idea that he'd Dan Tractorberg has directed one in secret It kind of makes sense that you could do that

Completely behind closed doors. No sets. No Actors leak, actors leak, getting surprise leaks or people in costume or whatever. If people are just coming into a sound booth and going, whoa, look out. There's a predator. Exactly. Look out. Look out, there's a predator.

Look out, duck. Yeah. There's a predator. There could be a predator, yeah. That's all good, Mason. Anyway, yeah, more. More, but not less. Mason, trailers ahoy. Mason anyway yeah more more but not less Mason Trailer's Ahoy!

Just just one this week on the good ship HMS trailer. It's a British ship? Yeah Interesting. Did you not know that? It's kind of sour at everything isn't it? Look at all the men on look at all the ugly blokes on that ship. Yeah that's pretty funny. But I'd be surprised you didn't notice. Yeah I don't see faces. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe you see faces, but I don't. You don't? No.

Love Hurts. Yes. This is from director Jonathan Yusbayo. He's been an action choreographer, a stuntman, an assistant director, and an actor. This is his directorial debut. And what better place to do this than with one Kehi Kwan, who's caused back in the action movies after everything all at once from a couple of years back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Been getting a bunch of roles. Not Indiana Jones 5. No. Because they weren't quick enough on that. They didn't think about it. They didn't. They didn't think about it, but it would have been cool. It would have been cool and nice and fun.

We all would have had a nice time. Yeah. I mean Boyd Holbrook was good. You wanted him to be the Nazi. Maybe. We haven't seen him in a few years. Fun twist, wouldn't it be? That is a fun twist. Yeah. The Nazis haven't figured out who they do and do not want in the ranks of the Nazis at this point. Do you think they've talked to him about a short round spin off something or something? Absolutely. They would have had to have. Sure. He should do it for money.

I think he should do it for money as well. He's got his own hat as well. His own special hat. Anyway, this one, Love Hurts. What are you should do it for money as well. He's got his own hat as well. He's got his own special hat. Anyway, this one, Love Hurts. What are you seeing from it? Good, fun action. Yeah. It's good. It's a guy. He's a Mr. Nobody situation.

Yes, it is. Yeah. He's in the hiding and he's the best in the world at being a realtor or something. Sure. Yeah, I think he's a realtor. Yeah. But then he's passed, AKA his brother. Oh yes, that's right.

Comes back to beat him up and shoot him and stuff. But you can't push Kui Kuan too far, because he'll get you. Use the environment and himself to beat you up a little bit. But he doesn't want to kill, but he does. Because he'll probably have to. This looks really fun. It does look fun. This is getting a theatrical release?

I believe so, on February 7th of 2025, just in time for Valentine's Day. You know what's getting a theatrical release. I believe so on February 7th of 2025, just in time for Bellin Times Day. You know what's getting a theatrical release? What's that? The movie Red One. Does that shock you? Yeah. Isn't that fucked up? It's crazy.

Didn't that ruin your day? It's the most Netflix movie. It's the most Netflix coded movie I've ever seen the trailer for, and it's getting a theatrical release. Are you kidding me? November 7th in Australia, Mason. It is from the director of Jumanjo. The new ones. Yeah. Okay. I guess. new ones yeah here's another thing did you see this you know how Clint Eastwood has a new movie coming out that he's directing

Jura number two that they're not promoting or whatever they're putting it in 50 theaters what they're putting it in 50 theaters in in the US that's it 50 yeah okay which is great I looked up. Clint Eastwood's movies have made like $2 billion collectively. But he has directed a hundred and thousand movies. He does. He has directed and he's going to direct a hundreds and thousands movie. Did you know that? No.

The invention of the sprinkle candy treats that he put on bread in Australia and call it fairy bread. He's directing that after the success of Unfrosted. Oh yeah. He's like, I want to take a crack at this. He's directed 39 films. And how many did you say? 2.2 billion or something. Do some math. Okay. 2 billion. Okay. How many zeros in a billion? A billion? Just ask Google to do it. Google. I don't have this set up. Okay. How many movies is like they said I can't fucking do it All right. I've been doing I've been doing big camping. You know that I'm just back. How many movies did you say 39?

Yeah, a Google. Hello Google what's our? 2.2 billion divided by 39. I've also been camping. I can't help you man. It's 56.4 million that's good.4 million. That's good maybe. I mean it's got, but I mean like. That seems good. I mean he directed a lot of those movies like, he directed a bunch of movies in the 70s

when nothing made any. He directed Unforgiven. He directed Unforgiven, he's won. Which I watched recently on a plane. Yeah, he's won four Oscars. Yeah man. And yeah. Battle for 39.

See what I was gonna say. Come on man. Thank you Google. Shut up. You got it. Whoa. Oh, well, that might even be correct. Maybe because I did it said, Do you want to use Gemini AI? And I'm like, I guess talking about so maybe that's not even accurate. Yeah, doesn't matter. Anyway, but what I'm saying is it's weird that they're just like, who cares? I could do 56 million times 39. Would that help you out? Yes. All right, here we go.

This is a maths. How many 56 millions in 39? 2.2 million. No, that's... This isn't right. This just isn't right, Mason. None of this is right. Yeah.

Actually, it might be. There you go. Yeah. Sure. All right, there we go. Well, Mason, that's cool. Are you going to see Clint Eastwood's new movie? Yeah.

I'm a juror. Or my dad's a juror or something. I don't know. Nicholas Holt's a juror. Nicholas Holt's a juror. He did it. Oh, that's right. He killed a man.

When you read the premise on paper, it seems insane. Because it's a juror on a murder trial realizes that he might be the murderer. It's like, what? Excuse me? Yeah, how'd he do that? How'd he do that? But the premise is that he was driving late at night one time and he may have hit someone in a car and then the death of that person has been pinned on someone else and he's like well what do I do? Just say that other guy did it. Yeah just say the guy the guy on trial

did it. Then you can go off I go into my car or you can run you just run to your car yeah that's so true isn't it get out I can't get you I can't get you there man anyway love hurts as mentioned Feb 7th looks good I'll be saying that one he took one of the first movies we talked about next year which is very exciting Mason we might still be talking about red one course that's out November 7th. You ready for that? No. That's like, not this week coming, but the next week. I want to be, I want to get ahead of this.

To be clear, I would never say that if I didn't have to for this podcast. Never ever. You've never said that before. Well, I've never. Not like I've asked you, but like you've never voluntarily said that. No, I would never. Two weeks before a movie comes out. What about any of that suggests that it's worth watching?

You don't like Chris Evans pretending to be Ryan Reynolds next to the rock and a snowman? No. Because I don't know what to tell your man. That's what it is. That's it. And it costs 250 million dollars. Yeah.

Somehow. Yeah. Chris Evans is like, do I have to come in for my costume fitting? No, just wear whatever you're wearing. And we'll put a jacket on. Putty and a jacket is fine. Yeah, whatever.

Yeah, we love that for you. Blade's been delayed, Mason. And by delayed, I mean it's been pulled from its November 2025 release date. Damn. Which makes sense because they haven't started any of it yet. That's true. They're not even happy with the script. Nope.

At the moment, it's been through two directors and at least six writers that we know of since the studio first announced it half a decade ago. Oh yeah. Which is also five years. Now, no replacement date has been announced in terms of what is next. Okay. Okay. Now, there is some speculation. Some have said this is the, or maybe some insider word

that they're actually waiting till Avengers or that guff they're going to do dimensional shit. And then they'll do Blade. Clean the slate of the multiverse stuff. Say there's no, say we defeated Doctor Doom and there's no longer any multiverse except if we need it later in which case there will be a multiverse. In case we need to bring back anybody who's, you know, died. Exactly.

We'll just say they're a refugee from the multiverse. Do you think that means they're going to put Wesley Snipes as Blade in those two Avengers movies and then reboot them? Probably. Or at least one of them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, but I would say, I know you maybe don't think so, I think Mahershala Ali is gone. I do not think.

If he's not, I just don't think he's going to be Blade. What's this, at least five years out from now? Well, according to the very accurate Twitter.com... Shut up! Some people, according to some people, like, Michelle Ali met with Marvel Studios recently, reportedly told someone on the phone he's very happy and excited with the current direction of Blade

and has no problem with the delay. Yeah, because he's not in it. Delayed all you want. It's someone else's problem now, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I don't believe it. I just don't. I just, I just don't think this is happening. Yeah, I don't believe it either. Yeah. But like, this is just, whoever's come up with this rumor is just, this is like that Hail Mary play of like, yeah, well, if it turns out to be right, I'll be the one goes like, I called it. it and look maybe it will maybe they'll talk him around

They'll find the perfect idea and they'll make it happen But I just over the over the next weekend Yeah over the next weekend But this just this is lunacy and this is also announced in a time when they were really unsure of what even direction they were Going to go in. Mm-hmm. Like they were talking those sort of setting up the multiverse saga, but there was no doctor doom That's true and a bunch of other shit which they've ended up doing and they're not doing all this James Like they were talking, they were sort of setting up the multiverse saga but there was no Doctor Doom. That's true. And a bunch of other shit which they've ended up doing and they're not doing.

Oh this, James, this rumour comes from the Hot Mike podcast with Jeff Snyder. Oh! Rock, rock, rock char. Well, you know, he gets a lot of stuff right. There you go. But this is wrong. Wow. Well.

You're going to try and start another feud? Is that what's happening today? Mason, I'm too tired for feuds. Wow. But I'll happily start a feud. I'm actually at my best when I'm tired try and start another feud is that what's happening today? It's an I'm too tired for feuds Wow But I'll have to at least start a feud. I'm actually at my best when I'm tired. That's true I'm angry you sail things you regret say things I regret and ball or really realistically realistically what I mean Yeah, yeah, absolutely. What's true in your heart? Yeah, there's no filter there the layer of civility Mmm, I've put up that very that paper thin curtain. Oh my god that that microscopic membrane. You've seen it Have it exactly right? Yeah, I've seen it

You've seen before and after this show when it just disappears like smoke like it was never there. That's right. Yeah Anyway blade good on it Good on it Doesn't have a director or a writer or whatever. Yeah, yeah. It might have a star though. It might, yeah. Maybe they will do Midnight Suns first. Maybe they do that and then they go from there. Maybe that, maybe at the end of Midnight Suns they look in another box and there's another sword and Blades like that's mine as well.

I was actually, I did want two swords. Yeah. That would be cool. Yeah, I'm changing my name to Blades with a Z. Also, if I drop one, I've got a sword. That's right. Yeah. Blades with a Z. Also, if I drop one, I've got a sword. That's right. Yeah. Blades with a Z.

I'm teaming up with Shades. Shades? From Luke Cage. We're gonna be Blades and Shades. Wow. Yeah. What else is he in the moment? He's in the Penguin.

He's in the Penguin, that's right. Cool. That's a good show. It is a good show. Are you being sarcastic? No, it's cool, I like it. It is cool. It's really good.

It's not cool. It's pretty cool. Don't you think it's cool? It's pretty cool. You think you're It is cool. It's really good cool. It's pretty cool. Yeah, don't you think it's cool? It's pretty cool. You think you're better than me? Yeah, that's my the penguin. I see. Um, he's mine That's good too, I agree last bit of news Mason spider-man 4 which is the first spider-man 4 we're gonna be getting which is very exciting We've never got this far. That's right. We've never gotten this far before. Complete artistic burnout from the actors, directors, producers, the crew. Yeah. You know?

Despite Spider-Man appearing in 1,000 movies. I want to say at least 11 live action movies. First, Raimi Trilogy, the two Garfield ones, the three Tom Holland ones, Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame. There's probably something else that I've missed in there.

So anyway, it's got a release date now of July 24, 2026, which was two months after Avengers Doomsday. I wonder how that ties in then. Because Doomsday will set up battle planet or whatever Okay, does that mean it will have to be set before that or will it? Or will it be crazy in the ramifications of that and he's stuck on a weird planet and he gets a black suit. Yeah, maybe maybe You know that street level saga that you want to or maybe he's just not maybe he's not in You just have to be in doomsday though, right? Because down is in it. Yeah, but maybe they're like

You just have to be in Doomsday though, right? Because Downey's in it. Yeah, but maybe they're like, I mean, if it's two months after one of those, it seems like they're aiming for, you know, when they did, uh, Avengers. Infinity War. Infinity War, and then the Captain Marvel got the tail end of that and also made a billion dollars. Maybe they're going, maybe this will be like, we're doing Doomsday, and they carry that with Robert Downey Jr. Yeah. And then they're like, but what will be like, we're doing Doomsday and they carry that with Robert Downey Jr.

And then they're like, but what's where's Spider-Man? And then he's in the new Spider-Man, you're like, oh, he was off doing this. So everybody, you know, it's the kind of the domino effect. Oh, I like this idea. And maybe it's very clever. And Tony would have thought of that. But do you think? Yes.

So do you think they would have thought of something continuity wise and then followed that through and it made sense? I forgot about Sony. I mean, they don't run these. They make the Venom movies. That's so true. And the Spum movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Craven, etc.

Craven, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know maybe. Like, I mean, but do they risk not putting all their big guns in Doomsday? Yeah. You know what I mean? I think they could risk that for the next one. Yeah, I think so too. You put enough in there and then you build to whatever.

Yeah. Because it's going to be Battleworld, etc. The director of this is going to be... It's the same as when you try to swallow a tablet and it doesn't quite go down. It's in your mouth, you're like, ugh, bitter, ugh, yeah, yeah, my water. Destin Daniel Cretton's gonna direct this, who directed Shong-Chi, and he was going to direct at least one of these Avengers movies initially, and then also Shong-Chi 2, which isn't happening the way that we thought it was, or something,

I can't remember. It's webisodes now. It's webisodes now, yeah. Any episodes on your phone. Yeah. Scan a QR code on selected packs of Pringles. Yes. And you get an episode of Shang-Chi.

I would like that. Shang-Chi sequel. No, no, Mason, we're all like boo everything. Oh, yeah, not. No, we love everything. We love things. I think I like the idea of Tom Holland coming back. I like this director.

I am interested to see what they do in these Avengers movies. I think they're probably not going to hit the heights of the previous one. I don't think they're going to get the numbers box office wise potentially. But I think they'll still do reasonably well. Yes. By that I mean over a billion dollars each probably. Yeah.

Unless it's a Joker style. Yeah. I think what we're really going to need in Doomsday at the very latest is sort of a rebuilding of the camaraderie of the current Avengers team. Whoever that is. Yeah, like you know because Avengers, original Avengers did such a good job of like, okay well we've got some players. Pause mates with this guy. Exactly, we've got a couple of players in place and some new guys, we've got to bring them all in together, you have to have conflict and then they have to work

it out and then they have to save the day. We need that. Yeah. Like I think if all these shows and movies we've had recently have shown anything it out and then they have to save the day. We need that. Yeah. Like I think if all these shows and movies we've had recently have shown anything, it's that we need all the existing A-list heroes to like show that they have in the same room at once. We don't have to film them in the same room at once. That's irrelevant. I mean that's crazy talk to suggest that all these people would be in the same room at the same time when we film these But you just want them all in the same room and it's like

even if like because I feel like these move the current phase of Marvel's had had been doing a bad job of Who are the Avengers who are the Avengers and what are they up to now? Yeah, and I think yet doomsday really needs to lean into this is the team now Yeah, and here's how they all work together. And, and, and we're all set for a big finale in secret war. And maybe though it could be too late, some stuff leading up to that. Nah, it is too late. It's too late though.

Yeah. I mean, if you look at between original Avengers and like 2012 and end game, like the enough time had passed where they went back to the original Avengers movie. Yeah. And there were people and obviously it's the same characters and whatever so you've got that nostalgia. Yeah. Like they built it up that much. But they're not going to go what happened seven years ago. Yeah right. Let's go back to 2018. Yeah yeah yeah. Maybe they could. Let's all listen. Maybe they could visit Infinity War. Maybe yeah they'll go back. They'll go all the characters Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, I would be funny if they yeah They should they should go back in time to endgame and go on another like an adventure in between endgame Oh my god, that would be funny. I agree. It would be funny

It is the Russo brothers back in Marcus and McFeely who wrote that as well the last two Avengers movie So well, they'll have the pre-existing script then exactly I just have to like just fill it in find gaps find the gaps in the paragraphs and put a story in there. It's easy. Yeah. And then future Hulk was there. Yeah. And he had a beard and he was bald or whatever. Mm hmm. Someone. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

They're clearly trying to recapture that magic. Can they do it? Some of it, probably. Some of it, probably. I mean, Avatar waited, what was it, 13 years? And then they released the biggest movie of all time again. So who the fuck knows what's going on? Not me.

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that's right oh yeah he's not fighting a venom in this one though is he oh for the most part yeah yes we've got fighting stuff to say spiders or something ah we got venomom 3 The Last Dance. That's right. Oh I forgot to put the budget in. Give me one second. I'm going to say $70 million. I'm going to agree with you.

Now this one is directed, first time director. Kelly Marcel. Who wrote the previous two movies. Yes and some other stuff. Budget $120 million. Damn we were way off. Yeah. Looks bad.

Must have paid that horse a lot of money. A lot of oats. She probably went to Oats Studio. That's good. Well, this makes sense. She was a script editor on Bronson, which is one of the early Tom Hardy breakout roles. Oh, right. Okay. She also wrote Fifty Shades of Grey. Sure. Oh, so she gets, she got uncredited script work, thanks in credit on Mad Max Fury Road. So that's good. And like you said, the writer of the two, three Venom movies, plus the story of Cruella. I see. How that woman hated dogs or whatever. Sure.

But she was justified in hating dogs. Yeah, I think so. One pushed her mom off a cliff or something. Yeah, that's right. I saw that movie. Yeah, and laughed about it. It was pretty good for what it was. Caveat.

Mason. So yeah, budget $120 million. The box office of this. It's not looking great. Variety are calling this series a downtrend. Or recognizing a downtrend, I should say. So. They must have gone pretty granular because it's kind of difficult.

Like that level of, you know what I mean? I'll give you some numbers. Want some numbers? Yeah. So the original had a 22 million US opening on its day one. Sorry, 32 million for the original one. 37 million for the second. And this one has 22 million opening.

That's just one day in the US. The original made 856 million to the box office in 2018, which makes sense because that's Avengers, etc. era. The sequel only made 506 million, still hugely hugely profitable but that's quite a drop off. Yeah and so they've decided this time spend more get less get less that's our plan. Exactly so this is going to have a 65 million US opening maybe a bit less. Okay. This is definitely a dying series. Flagging, one would even say most. The goo is drying out. It certainly is.

Anne Wenning is gone. Patrick Mulligan is reported dead. Rex Strickland is on the hunt. What are you doing? Are you telling me what the story was? I was going to say, are you telling me what the story is? Setting the scene and the pace. Alright, alright, here we go. Here we go. You don't like it when I do the story? setting the scene and the pace. All right, all right. Here we go. Here we go. So, so. You don't like it when I do the story?

Don't take my bit. Don't take my bit where I pretend. I'm surprised that you've asked me what the story is. I was only surprised the first hundred times. I'm not surprised at all. All right. So Eddie Brock and Venom, they're back from their little trip to the MCU where they did

nothing. That's right. Well, they left some stuff and they said some stuff. Looked at the TV. Looked at the TV. They went, boy, we've got some stuff to do in this universe. But now they're back. And they've learned that they've learned they're wanted for a murder they didn't commit.

And probably a lot of crimes they actually did commit. Yeah. So they can't- They've been hidden dudes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've been in Mexico, but they can't go back to San Francisco where Eddie Brock is from because it heats too much. So they're like, let's go to a place where there are no cops, New York City.

No, they're going to bribe a judge or whatever. So you think you're going to get venom in New York. Well, yeah. So this is going to- So that's Spider-Man, etc. Well yeah, so I mean that's, that's the, that's, if you recall in the post credits of whichever one that was, Venom's like, oh that's Spider-Man on the TV, we should go to New York to meet Spider-Man. And they're hoping we forget the reason that he was going to New York, because now he's back in his own universe.

To meet Spider-Man. To meet Spider-Man. Anyway, that's the number one thing, is they've got to go on a little road trip across America to get to New York City, baby. But also, a scientist with a tragic backstory is working on researching venoms in a secret lab under Area 5. What's a backstory,

would you say? A backstory? under Area 51. What's her backstory? Her backstory? What I would say is that her backstory is that when she was young, her little brother wanted to be a NASA scientist, but then one day they both got struck by lightning on a beach and he died. So she's decided to honor him. She'll become a scientist and then she's ended up researching venoms in a secret lab under Area 51, which is closing down.

So they're gonna deal with that. But also- They're dropping acid on things. There's an acid dropping machine. Don't worry about that though. It's an OH&S nightmare if you ask me. Just an open air acid dropping machine, it's not important. But also third thing is they add in deep space, Null,

who was the god of the symbiotes, he created the symbiotes, but they locked him up. They rebelled against him and locked him up because he was too evil. They've locked him up in a prison dimension space thing or whatever in space. And he's sending out monsters because he's got to track down something that could maybe release him and do a big evil. He's got some of his portal powers back. He does.

So we can send these monsters to different planets because he's looking for the Codex, which is a key to help him escape. Yeah. Now you might be wondering, how do we get here? Will all of these three things, you know, coalesce and join together into a satisfying ending to this movie and the conclusion of the Venom Saga? No, but do we have a lot of fun along the way? Also, no, we don't.

Mason. Yes. These movies are bad. I agree. I've been saying that. I've been, what I've, look, what I've been saying is I didn't like the last one, Venom, let there be gooey red carnage. But if you ask me why I couldn't tell you, because I've forgotten, and I remember liking the first one.

But if you were to be like, here's a quick recap of it. Lobster tank. I might be like, this is bad. The lobster tank bit. Yeah. I liked the performance. And it's the rom-com buddy cop element to it. Yeah.

It's good work from Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock and Tom Hardy as Venom playing across himself and each other to have a funny... I can't understand Venom a lot of the time. Right. Is that just a me problem? No, I don't think it is. Again, you know... Not like exclusively, but I feel like I'm missing jokes or they're not jokes. I think it's a combination of sometimes it's happening when there's a lot of big action happening on screen. Like he's hanging off the side of a plane or there's explosions or what have you combined

with the fact that a lot of the time sound systems in cinemas are not very good. And they've been in there for 20 years and they're malfunctioning and it's a bit muddy in there and everybody's on TikTok on their phones on full volume. Tom Hardy does love a weird little voice though, doesn't he? He does, doesn't he? We can't understand him. Yeah. Now me and you were speaking to my son before this and he said, we asked about the Venom

movie. He's like, what's the new Venom movie like? And I can't remember what we said. Probably it's bad. And then you said- No, I said well. Yeah. And he said, did you like the other ones?

And I said, no. And he said, did you like the other ones? And I said, no. And he said... He said, I can't remember how he got to this, but we told him that there's no Spider-Man in these. Yes. And he went, what? And then he said... Because an eight year old, nine year old?

Yeah, nine year old. His knowledge of the Marvel universe. He hasn't seen any Venom stuff at all either. No, but he is aware from probably Lego Spider-Man or Lego Marvel or whatever that Venom and Spider-Man are very, extremely linked. And you said, well, the thing is in the comics, Venom, he has the rivalry with Spider-Man, but he eventually goes out on his own and he decides to become an anti-hero and the lethal protector. And then he said- I did say that. I did say all those trademark terms.

That's right. And then he said, how does say that. I did say all those trademark terms. That's right. And then he said, how does he become Venom then? And I said, I don't remember. Which is true. I guess he found a symbiote came to Earth. That's all I- Yeah, he goes into a lab.

Yeah. He goes into that lab. Does it? I'm thinking of Spider-Man 3 where a comet landed near him. Yes. No, that's, yeah. But in this one, Eddie Brock goes to investigate a lab and there's a venom there. Okay, you know, that's great. Yeah, it is great Isn't it? Yeah, I just um, I

Don't know man. Okay. Here's what's good. I'll tell you know I'll tell you what this is for the listeners here and I'll remind you of this James this is a scene in the movie this current movie that I think is emblematic of This movie as a whole. It I think is emblematic of this movie as a whole. It's a microcosm of this movie. There's a moment where Chewatelle Ejiofor as the military general Rex Strickland, he's on, he's having a,

he's speaking to his shadowy mysterious superiors over a shadowy mysterious Zoom call. And he says, I'm gonna go in and get Eddie Brock, I'm gonna capture Venom, but I need full control over the six. And then the shadowy mysterious general, he goes, yes, you have approval to deploy the six. And we're like, whoa.

And at this point in the movie, I'm like, well, there's been enough kind of legwork to establish in this, at this point, that the six that they've said so dramatically it's probably some kind of team of symbiote bonded special forces soldiers all of whom have like distinctive personalities and they use the goo in you know tactical ways that we've not seen before. One's gold maybe. Exactly and probably Venom Eddie Brock will be defeated but then he'll learn from that and then you know, and then maybe later he'll he'll Convince some of them to change their ways or what-have-you, but anyway turns out the six are just six guys who are easily killed

Yeah, they're just Tom Hardy shoots one. They're just six not when he's venom No, but there's there's six no see here's the thing you're thinking of a different thing The six that he's aren't The six that he's gotten to deploy, they're just six anonymous black suited soldiers hanging off a helicopter and they're identical to a bunch of other black suited soldiers hanging off a helicopter from earlier. The one he shoots underwater, that's not the one? That's not the six. That's the previous guys.

Oh. So like, and I'm not even sure there were six. The six that he deploys are the six that show up in Las Vegas later and crash in on the hotel room. Okay, yeah. That's the six. I mean you could also do, I mean they were never gonna do this. I don't even know if there were six of them. Sinister six, obviously. Yeah, right, I guess. But the foreshadowing of this movie suggests that the six are gonna be symbiote guys and I think probably at some point they might have been. But at a synopsis level or a screenwriting level or a filmmaking level or an editing level they chopped that out but they had to leave the line because they're like, well we film this.

What's also strange is like, and this is a slight spoiler, there are a bunch of other venoms in this. That's what I'm saying. What are we doing? I'm going to talk about that in spoilers. There are a bunch of other Venoms in this. That's what I'm saying. What are we doing? I'm going to talk about that in spoilers. What are we doing? I'm going to talk about that in spoilers and I think I'll tell you where I thought this was going to go before they were like, that seems too expensive so we'll just use random special forces guys.

But anyway, strength of this movie, I think Tom Hardy is good. He's sweatier and more shambling than ever. Yeah, he's hung over the entire movie I think it's quite funny. Yeah, where's the shoes? Why can't venom make him shoes? I can't venom disguise him That's never been a thing in these movies for some reason it's in in all other venom side the runner It's all yeah in all other venom media venom can turn into just straight clothes. Yeah, but in this he just can't I guess just straight clothes. But in this he just can't, I guess. He hasn't learnt it yet. No. And so what this movie ultimately is, I think, the problem with it, and as I mentioned, there's these three things that are happening all at once. It's that they want this to be a series

of kind of loosely connected funny skits of stuff Eddie and Venom get up to, like their various hijinks. Yeah. But they also want, he's on the run for murder and they also want, and there's a team of special forces guys who want to capture him and experiment on him. And also there's a God being that wants to end the world. And they, I don't think they can have it all. I don't think it works. They definitely can't.

They definitely can't balance all of those things. And also like you mentioned, there's characters that have been given back stories that don't culminate in anything and there's characters that are significant in the comic books. Chua-Tel-Ijio-Four's character is significant in the comic books and this is just some guy in name only. It's strange that like Chua-Tel-Ij Ijafor and Reese Evans are in this movie and Reese Evans has been in Spider-Man. He was the lizard.

Recently. Again. And was he there in person for any of that? Probably not. They used some existing footage to actually put him in. He was in the booth. Yeah. And he was and fucking Chua Tal I Egypt for his barren fucking mordo.

Like, what's happening? I don't know. I mean, I know it's a multiverse thing, but like, but it doesn't, so I guess it also doesn't matter. Yeah. He's something that is good. Sometimes the venom is a fish or a frog or a horse. But all of that was revealed beforehand.

That's true. And they also didn't do anything with it. I want to see a frog venom do something. I'm going to get the horse running. But again, that that was in the trailer and that was the bit where we went maybe Hmm, maybe yeah, they got us. We were wrong. Yeah, they got but I yeah I wouldn't have seen this if I didn't have to yeah, I'd tell that much I would have heard what people said about it and been like, oh, it's this again. Yeah, so it doesn't really It just sort of there's a lot going, but also next to nothing going on really.

You know what's also not going on? What's that? The goo that was left in the MCU, which was then left in the MCU. So at the end of the, the No Way Homepost credits, Venom has sucked out of his unit, the MCU, and he leaves him goo on the bar. Yeah. And then he's back in a pretty much identical bar with the same bar. Where he leaves some more goo. Which I think is, I think some of that is a reshoot where they realized they fucked up some dimensional shit

Yeah, right. I does well. I don't know that for a fact and then so there's a good there's goo left in the MCU With the implication being that it'll get to spider-man or do something. Yeah, that's never coming back Probably not. I mean cuz that after reference No, but see that's the thing they're Probably not. I mean, because they'd have to reference... No, but see, that's the thing. They're relying on sort of remembering the stuff that sort of happened. Some goo was left on a bar in the previous movie and some goo is left on the bar in this movie. Yeah, that's what I mean.

Yeah, so like... We've got to remember... They covered it. Yeah, they covered it. Or they seeming... They seemingly... I'd forgotten also. I didn't remember.

I had to look that up because I couldn't remember the end of that. I was also curious about whether the portal effect was the same and it's sort of not, but they cut away from it and it doesn't matter. It ultimately doesn't matter. You know what also I think maybe is to the detriment of these movies. Yeah.

Eddie Brock doesn't have any friends. No, he's got Anne Wenning. Well see that's the thing all like Mrs. Chen. And Venom. And Venom. And Venom. And I guess they're trying to be like, well it's just these two against the world kind of thing. It's kind of like, it's kind of like, you know, Bill Bixby, Lou Ferrigno, Incredible Hulk. It's, you know, in that TV series every week he went to a different town and then he got in some trouble and he turned to the Hulk and then he left and it was sad

music and he moved on again. It was, wasn't it? But this one is sort of relying on the idea of we've been through a lot, haven't we buddy? And this is a real look at our fabulous memories or whatever. But there's no one really to share that with. No. Because there's nobody who's really carried on. Besides Mrs. Chen. Yeah.

There's no one who's really carried on. He doesn't... I guess that's why she reappears in this. That's exactly why. Because they've got no one else. They've got no one else. Yeah. Just the idea of this being a, you know, a tearful finale for Venom, I think would work better if we saw some people he'd connected with in the past and we saw what they've been up to in this, you know. Like the shopkeeper from two of those moves.

Like Mrs. Chen. Mrs. Chen. Like that's what they're going. Even if he ran into Morbius in Vegas, that would be like, okay, at least you'd be like, that's someone I guess. I mean, I guess this is also not this movie's fault. If they'd given him a supporting cast that stuck around, then that would... You mean like another person. One more person would be fine. One more person would be great. The action in this is, it's

okay, but the- They're called the Villains of Xenophage. I like their big buzzsaw blender head. Yeah, okay. I guess. But it's also one of those things where the Xenophages are indestructible to some degree and so are venoms. So it's just goos slapping into each other. And if you're into that thing, that's great. You know what I'm not into? In the opening of this we see Kanal.

And he just gives all the information you need to know about the Codex, etc. And how the Codex works and the Codex being the key that gets him out and so on and so forth. Which is a terrible start to anything. Absolutely. Just like an expedition dump and then I'm going to send my minions, etc. And then I don't know, I must have dozed off or I missed it, but like it's later explained that Venom is the one with the codex. Yes.

And apparently the reason, because I had the Wikipedia this evening. I'll tell you because I was awake. So in order to, so Null is trapped in a sort of prison because he was too evil in the symbol It's trapped him there and he wants to escape so he can destroy the universe or whatever. He's the big bad He's a Thanos guy. Yeah And so the way to unlock his prison is he needs something called a codex once he gets the codex to his planet Venom lethal protector the comic is that the one No. Yes, but it operates differently in the comic book. So in this universe, a codex comes about if someone is bonded to a symbiote and then they die and then they're brought back to life by the symbiote and that creates a codex.

So Venom died in, Gettibrock died in Venom 1 or Venom 2. One of those. He died. There's a flashback to it. He gets stuck through the chest and I guess he died and then Venom 1 or Venom 2. One of those. He died. There's a flashback to it. He gets stuck through the chest and I guess he died and then Venom brought him back to life which has created a codex. So now, so the xenophages can, they have a sort of grayscale vision, but when Venom and Eddie are in full venom mode, the full giant venom mode, these xenophages can see the codex and they charge towards it.

But when he's not in full venom form, they can't see it. He's basically invisible. Yeah. But nobody else is. No. I would also, why is he the only one this has ever happened to? That's a great question. And why, if there are so many other venoms, if there are so many other, you know, there's toxin and riot and jam jar and whatever, then why wouldn't he just get, and they're all like very inexperienced, why wouldn't Null just get one of his monsters to kill one of them and then it would bring them back and then it would have a codex and then he

could just use them? Why does he have to track down venom? What's the- Yeah, I thought there must have been a better reason for this, but there's not. That's the reason, right? It's not like he was an original law he tussled with canal at one point and no stole a bit of his whatever I went in the in the dead once in the comic books the law is that every is the 2018 venom yeah all the which we're covering coming yeah all the symbiotes have a codex in them and it's sort of like they're

they're there it collects all their core memories. So you know it's just sort of a convenient way to say they all have a hive mind. Yeah. And if one if you know if the human dies or the symbiote dies and you need to bring them back for later storyline you can just say well we recovered the codex and we squirted all the memory. Yeah exactly and it's back they're back now kind of thing. But in this there's only one. Yeah it's very conveniently in in Venom. I agree. Also, this is a road trip movie. It is yeah. Because there's a bunch of it spent in a van. With Reese Ifans. Reese Ifans plays a kind of a hippie type who is road tripping with his family. Yeah, he's road tripping with his family to Area 51 because it's been closed down.

Yeah, and they're melting everything with an acid machine. And he wants to go there before they close it down in the hopes that he'll see an alien. The rest of his family sort of reluctantly going on and sort of humoring him. And then they get there. It's like a day before Area 51 is closing and nobody else is there? No. Did you find that odd? That was very strange.

Like nobody else would go? Yeah. I just, god, that, no good. And also look, we'll save this for the spoilers, I guess. But there is mid credits and a post credits. And just- And you said I should stick around because they're really good. No, I said do not stay. I know you think that like, oh, I got to see this now that- Now that old James missed the Sunday movies himself, it's not worth it and I said James loves all movies and everything and all every pre- he sticks around for the credits he said you say I just want to support the people I clap for everybody on the crew. I don't. Putting these in is fucking dirtbag behavior. That is taking advantage of people's goodwill Mason mine in particular because I was late coming back to record with you because I was sitting in the fucking theatre for an extra 20 minutes to see nothing yeah and then afterwards it was me and another

guy who stayed and as the cinema employees waiting and I'm like I hate doing this and then as I'm leaving I said thank you and then the guy who was with me bailed up the cinema employee about what they're gonna do with venom next oh the future of the franchise. I just wanted to be like, leave him alone. We should have cards. We should have business cards and we should be like, buddy, don't talk to this guy. It should be like, it should say don't bail up cinema employees.

Listen to the weekly planet podcast. You're right. And there's a QR code. There's a QR code. Yeah. So yeah, there you go. Let's do some spoilers. Okay.

I'm going to say, alas, it's the worst movie ever. It is the worst movie ever. I think if they had, cause this is, this is how my brain works. If Tom Holland had have been in a post credits, it would have bumped it up slightly for me to be something. Yeah. Okay. But this is- How do you think they would tie that in though? They just put him in it. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Right. And they figured it out later. Yeah. Well, I mean, the post credits which we'll get to, again, it's some elements where... Yeah. So anyway, so before we get to the post credits, so big spoilers for this movie.

It's less than nothing what they did. So big spoiler time for the movie. So we learn that Venom's got the codex in him, and if Null gets the codex, he'll destroy the universe or whatever. Yeah. And also the Venoms are good now. Yeah, but if Venom, if either Eddie or the symbiote die, the codex will be destroyed forever. The narrative thrust of this movie, the dilemma is, is one of them going to die? Or are they going to escape certain death?

Or is one of them going to make the sacrifice gonna they're gonna escape? You know certain death, you know, or is one of them gonna make the sacrifice, you know and their best friends and what have you and it's a real it's gonna be a big deal and The answer is that they it all culminates everybody ends up in everybody ends up everybody gets captured and ends up in area 51 Yep in the base. Yep And then all the xenophages show up. Actually, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie and venom get captured and separated. Well, they get captured because they both know that if they turn into full venom form, the xenophage will know and will get them. But why would they would they get captured if they didn't have if they because they wouldn't just do

that, would they? No, they just do it. They do it because Mrs. Chen is there and, and, and, and Vannum's like, I want to do a dance. And so he turns into full Vannum and then, and then he's immediately captured, immediately captured in which I would say, but also, but as is shown in the movie repeatedly, if he just sort of goops out, that doesn't count. No, he has to fully cover. So he could just goop out of Eddie and just do a little dance and it wouldn't matter Yeah, would it know but he just he simply must have danced for 20 seconds

What require yeah, the plot requires him to be captured So they're like, well, what if he just he's absolutely compelled to turn into venom had to do it and to do it. Mm-hmm So that happens so he's get kept he gets kept and they all go to they all go to Area 51 where he's there and all the other symbiotes are there. And then all the xenophages show up. And they think they're killing them, but they're not. But also, but also James, yeah, then all the other symbiotes, they loop onto various people who work in the facility. And then they fight the xenophages as well,

and then Venoms like, but they try various methods to destroy these things, and there's no, nobody has a moment of revelation where they go, oh my God, they're like this, so maybe we can defeat them or whatever. They just blow some stuff up, but it doesn't work, and they chop their heads off and that doesn't work.

And then eventually Venom's just like, I'll drag him into the acid machine. And then that just does work. That did come back. That acid machine we were talking about from earlier. Another thing does come back, we'll talk about it in a minute. But also, and then the whole facility is self-destructing

and it's all exploding and what have you. Venom sacrifices himself, he all melts, but Eddie gets in the van with the hippies. No, he gets under a door. Oh, he does get under a door. And then, yeah. Yeah. And then, but then the whole facility is blowing up and one of the scientists there, she's going to get caught in the explosion and die, but the scientist who has the tragic backstory, she's going to get caught in the explosion and die. But the, the scientists who has the tragic backstory, she's taken a, a symbiote sample. She's got it in her

pocket and she breaks it open and it turns into like lady flash venom. So she's, so she's a symbiote, but she's also electric and, and super fast. And so she runs in and she rescues it. It is Juno temple. She's been in, she's in Ted Lasso and other things and she's in this. She's in the Dark Knight Rises. And that the question then is did her DNA collect getting struck by lightning? And is that why her symbiote is super fast? Yes, Mace. Okay. Her DNA was imprint printed by by being struck by lightning What's the difference between like getting a venom symbiote and just getting a little bit of venom? It's hard to say is this one mean you've got a personality. Oh Yeah, like you do seem to have no cuz they do have split personality But but then the big red venom from the previous one, was that one guy?

Because he was an offshoot of venom. All right. We'd have to think about it. No. We'd have to think, I don't want to think about it. Or we could just watch a series of videos of Tom Hardy being interviewed where he's just all the director being interviewed where they're just sort of making stuff up on the fly and it becoming canon.

I would love that. Yeah. So okay, so here's the thing. So I think there was going to be a moment where in this movie where the six were gonna be special forces guys Yeah, who were there's a big one and another because there's a big there's all they've collected all the different symbiotes and they're in You know holding containers in this facility and I think initially there was gonna be a plan where They're bonded to special forces soldiers and they get sent out to to have venom but then they're all destroyed by the xenophages because they're not properly connected to them or what have you and then later in the movie. Because the scientists they're all they're capable of motion and they bonded with them and their friends and they've got hang out and whatever then they're better connected to the symbiotes or whatever yeah because that Because that would make more sense, right? It would make more sense.

It would make some sense. It would make some sense. But I think they're just like, yeah, well, we don't have the budget to do two symbiote action sequences with six symbiotes. So we'll just do it once. But I'll leave in the line about deploying the six because that was really cool. Yeah, that was really cool. A really cool thing to do.

God, so then Venom's dead. And finally, Tom Hardy ends up in New York. Yep. He's like, I'll never forget you. And then we get a montage of them hanging out over the previous movies. Just flinging stuff. They don't even do the lobster bit. Yeah, right. And then that's nothing, obviously. It's obviously nothing. And then the movie ends, but you think it has ended, but then it hasn't really ended because there's a mid-credits scene. Okay, so there's a mid-credits scene and it's just a shot. We zoom in on shot. Because Null died when they destroyed the Codex or was trapped forever. Did they? Oh yeah he sort of recedes in the shadow. And then Andy circuses Null goes in the thing. Yeah I guess it's Andy. And then he goes I'll be

back or I'm back. Yeah the mid credit sequence he comes back and he's like I'm back and I'm gonna destroy the earth. Why do you care about the earth? Do you think it's because that's the implication that Venom is alive? I mean, Venom is alive. Well Venom is alive. Well here's the thing, the second post credits, so earlier in the movie, they have the special forces guys abduct the bartender from the start of the movie, because they think he might know something. And then we don't see him for the rest of the movie. And then the post credit sequence, he emerges from the Area 51 facility. He hasn't hasn't been assited to death as you might have imagined but then he just wanders around for a bit and then we see the broken container that Juno temple got her lady flash venom symbiote out of and there's probably still some goop in it yeah and then a cockroach

which he said earlier has can survive anything oh yeah goes up and approaches the vile and then it then it then the movie ends. So I think the implication there would be you want to bring Venom, because that that goop came from Venom I think. That's the collected goop from Venom. Was it? I think so. Oh great. And then combined with Juno Temple being struck by lightning as a teenager. Why did that one have electricity? Because she broke it I guess. Yes I guess and the DNA, the lightning DNA. You would even think that because Venom licked the spider-man screen in the previous movie that he'd have the spider-man symbol He never has the spider-man. So isn't that crazy?

Yeah, not even for a moment They should have even just a moment where he leaps through the air and it briefly becomes the spider emblem Oh that would have made us happy right? We would have bumped it up It still would be the worst movie ever alas. I wish it were better But I think probably they're just going to go, okay, if they, if they need to bring him back for another movie, seeming seems unlikely, or, you know, MCU excursion, they'll just say, they'll just go, oh, that cockroach got venomized. And there was enough venom DNA on that thing.

And they're all going to hive mind. And then the cockroach is going to fly across country to New York. And he also left himself in the MCU. So they could also use that. They could do that. Yeah, absolutely. That's good. There's no rules to this, so it doesn't matter. This is by THR. This is Kelly Marcel, director on Venom 4. She said, yes, it's the end of a contract. We're asked to do three.

Oh, what a beautiful thing to say. We're asked to do three. We've delivered three. And who knows what the future holds. I hope that we've laid the groundwork for them in this third movie with other characters and other symbiotes and bad guys that they can run with, should they choose. But this is the last one for Venom and Eddie. We have definitely given it forethought.

So we definitely know what these stories could be. Forethought. Oh, we definitely know what these... Forethought. Oh. You know. We definitely know what these stories could be, should they want them. We definitely know what these stories could be. Yeah, we definitely know. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, I mean, and as well with this movie, I struggle to remember which of those symbiotes have been in previous movies. Any of them? I don't know. I mean, one was brown and oneiotes have been in previous movies. Any of them? I don't know. They don't, there's, I mean one was brown and one was red. One was punchy. One was sort of a squid.

Yeah, one had a big long fish tail, like an eel or something. Yeah. Also, there's no reason for that character to be in this movie. The cop. It's, yeah, it's Stephen Graham. He was in the last one. He was in the last one. Is that good enough for you?

But I guess if he died, then he would also have a codex or something. No, but if he died, he wouldn't have a codex. Oh, wait. If he died and then he would... But he would have had to have come back. He would have died and then come back and then he would get the codex. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Also, wasn't the plot of the first movie that the evil symbiote wanted to get back to its home planet? Yeah, there was a bunch of them on a rock. But why would you if it's the home of Gnarly Evil Guy? Because it's cool there. Well, it's also in the comic, it's in like, you think that it is this planet of symbiotes,

but it's not. The whole thing is a prison for Gnarly. Okay, so but why would the first guy want to get back to it? Why does anybody want anything? I don't know. You did see his sword for a second though. I don't know if you noticed that. No, I didn't say that. You see his sword for a second. Venom sword't know if you noticed that. No I didn't see that. You see his sword for a second. Venom sword.

The black evil sword from Thor the worst Thor. So that's a fun little connection isn't it? Thor the dark horse is not the worst Thor Mason. I know. You knew that. Yeah. You knew that. Yeah.

Mason here's some reviews we got. This one from Matt the Pharaoh Wizard who says Venom the Last Dance was terrible. Not surprising. It feels like the trailer was made first for people. First then people made the movie around it with both terrible mid and after credit scenes. Could this be up for the gamers on? Yes. Certainly.

For those people who don't know, the game is on as award we give at the end of the year for a movie which sets up a movie that's never going to happen. This one bigtaster you says, Venom the Last Dance had the worst montage in a movie I've ever seen. Third act was fine, but I guess, but I'm just glad each symbiote got to put, got put in a blender. So. Yeah, they all just, I mean, again, the thing about the symbiote, if we'd had a couple, like, if he'd had a couple of symbiote friends throughout the course of the movies, I'd be

like, oh, it's that guy again or whatever. There's two that merged together. That was kind of a fun bit. To Ed Venom. To Ed Venom. We don't know their names or anything. Again, like, they're confusing. They've got different colors with where interested in anything about them. Like if you'd given them... Wasn't Toxin Green? Doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter. We'd know if they said or did anything memorable. What if Carnage was in this? They just brought him back. Or the guy from the first one. Doesn't matter. We'd know if they said or did anything memorable. Yeah. That wasn't just. What if Carnage was in this? They just brought him back. Yeah, right. Or the guy from the first one.

Yeah, whatever that guy's name was. Whatever that guy's name was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like. Toxin. It's not enough for them to just one be red and one be blue with tentacles and one have blade arms or whatever.

In addition to that, it's just nameless, faceless scientists. Yeah. One of which we sort of knew. One was the doorman. One was the doorman. And I'm just glad each symbiote got put in a blender so this franchise with so much wasted potential can be put down.

James Michael Parry says, just saw a new Venom and Tom Hardy's dual performance still makes it. Bit of a silly best plot wise, but a fun time and a really good cast that probably deserved more to do. Well, what it means for the future Spum Adventures is anyone's guess. Worth watching. We're two spums in for the year. Do we have another Spum left in us? to do. Well, what it means for the future spam adventures is anyone's guess. It's worth watching. We're two spams in for the year. Do we have another spam left in us? We do. We've got one more spam coming. This is from SpacedCactus who says, Venom Last Dance seems completely improvised on

the day. It's like they knew it was going to be awful and they brainstormed ideas on how to make it as absurd as possible. The fact this was released absolutely baffles me. And Dej says, to certainly just make these movies and then not look at the reviews. Clearly they aren't doing anything that's working. Maybe stop trying to make Marvel adjacent movies and let Marvel have all their characters back and not this joint custody shit. Look, man, I like the idea of there being like different Marvel universes. But yeah, when it's this, this sucks and it hurts everybody.

Everybody in the world. Yeah, we're all suffering. Yeah, it's so true, isn't it? God. Yeah. Trash and poop. Yeah. I mean, I did like that. Again, I like it's in the trailer, the bit where Venom gets immediately addicted to gambling. I thought that was funny. Yeah. But it's again in the trailer.

That's we need more. It needed to. you know, and I said this earlier, it needed to focus on one thing. I think it was just a road trip movie. Would have been fun, but even an on the run movie. Yeah. As opposed to like we're going to New York, but are we? Yeah. No, on the run would be great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and he was, he was a bit for a bit. It was for a bit. I'm a zoom to remove it. Why can't he make him shoes? Why can't he make it just like, because he can do he can do stuff like that. Yeah. Why can he just not even have to wouldn't even have to look like you.

Gooshoes. Gooshoes. Look at my two gooshoes. Right. And then he does a little dance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're all after. That's good. That is good. All right, everybody. Should we move it along? Let's move it along. To what? What we read and's what we're all after that's good that is good all right everybody should we move it along let's move it along to what what we read in what what we gonna read what are you reading Mason I watched the movie Oh called killer heat which was on

Amazon Prime just of God and Lev again? It's got Joseph Gordon-Levitt in it. Oh, we mentioned this briefly in our personal lives. Yeah, Richard Madden is in it. Oh yeah. And someone else also. Isn't that fine, that movie? It's pretty fine. Oh yeah.

It's not attempting to change the world and it's just a pretty solid kind of noir murder mystery. Oh. Richard Madden plays two twin brothers and one of them's been murdered and Joseph Gordon Levitt's got to get in there. Well, I mean he's fallen off a rock but maybe he got murdered. He got murdered. But Joseph Gordon Levitt's got to get there

and it's got some nice looking vistas and you know. What does it say? Greece. Greece. Very good. And it's you know you know, Joseph got Yeah, Joga loves really kind of yeah, exactly. He's kind of laid on thick with it. He's got kind of a noir Voice over kind of like you like brick like brick exactly, but I just like seeing him and stuff So they do I like him pretty pretty I thought was pretty fun. Pretty alright. Oh, it's a fun one. Is it? It's not fun like way fun. It's not like Beverly Hills Cop Axl F fun.

Wahey. But I thought it was, I thought it was, you know, an enjoyable kind of... It was a smooth operation, wasn't it? Yeah, it was kind of a slow burner, but I thought it was fun. Great. And I read something else, probably a comic book. Must be nice. Well, I read a comic book. Go on, tell me about it.

There's a new Batman comic by Rodney Barnes with art by Stephen Subbick. Barnes-y? Yeah, man. It's called Batman Full Moon. Okay. And it's There's a new Batman comic by Rodney Barnes with art by Stephen Subbick. Barnsy? Yeah man, it's called Batman Full Moon. Okay. And it's Batman versus a werewolf. Whoa. A werewolf gets into Gotham and he's like, I'm always fighting animals, I'm gonna fight this one. Oh yeah. And then he gets in a fight with them, he's like, oh no, this is bad for me. Well, this isn't like all the other times I easily defeated and killed those dogs. So he's just in a bit of strife.

He's in a bit of strife. It's a bit of, not in art. Sounds like a classic underdog story a la Batman vs Predator. I was going to say there is definitely, not art-wise, but there is an element of Batman vs Predator to it. And it being like a wolfman and like I guess like a lot of Batman's villains, though not all, there is a tragic kind of duality to a wolf man. And will Batman turn into a wolf man by the end of this?

I hope so. Uh-oh. But he certainly doesn't in the first issue. Well. It looks at the kind of other supernatural elements in the DC universe, like there's references to like Satana and I think Constantine and some other stuff as well. Again, it's only one issue at the moment, but is it Spooky's Time of the Year? I'm not just talking about tax time.

So it is worth, if you're looking for a spooky thing to read, this is a new thing. Oh also I discovered a YouTube channel. This is not news to anybody because this guy gets like a million views a video. Oh Mr. Sunday movies. No, wrong. Have you seen any Austin? He's a guy he does video game videos, but he'll do stuff like he'll go, he'll play Grand Theft Auto and he'll see if the power lines connect to anything.

Oh, okay. It's a sort of a, I guess it's a sort of a plumbing the Death Star kind of situation. Damn, like the podcast. Yes, exactly. But it's more like he does, he'll do sort of intricate research in video games of like, do the, do the rivers in Skyrim empty out anywhere? Or like, you know, instead of plowing through a racing game, you'll slow right down and like check out all the details in the crowd that you don't think about until...

Where do Hyrule rivers go? Yeah, exactly. Like they're not because they're in games, a lot of stuff is designed for in the moment You're going through it a rapid clip and you don't think about all this sort of stuff But I just I just think they're you know, these look really fun. I just I just added one to watch later Yeah, how to fall out NPCs get home Yeah, so that the one I watched first was and this this came up because he got somebody gave him some stick on Twitter They're like this guy is this guy just discovered that video game stuff isn't isn't always

Doesn't always add up or whatever and it's like yeah, but I mean he knows that is that but it's just you know It's fun to see the depths of which someone does or trying to puzzle something out exactly and sometimes it's like Sometimes they'll explore this sort of thing and go, oh yeah, this game developer has really thought about this on such a microscopic level. He does unemployment reports, like you'll go into a game and figure out what amount of the NPCs have jobs, and go and do jobs when you're not there, and how many just sort of wander around. That's very good. I just bookmark wander around. So that's very good. I just bookmarks two of his videos.

Very good. Just there. No, I've never heard of him. That's great. No, neither have I, but it's good to find a new YouTube. New tube. Thank you. Yes.

Would I say that? Would you say that? I said it. Yeah, but thank you. Thank you. We should make this a video. Just this part. Just this bit.

Where I'm thanking you. Yes. Yeah, cool. All right. Done. Got. You reckon? Yeah. Just this part. Just this bit. Where I'm thanking you. Yes. Yeah, cool. All right, done. We've got to get the word out. Oh, great.

Well, Mason, this has been great. It has been great. And I would love to continue this podcast. We have to. In another segment. Okay. If you don't mind. Let's do the letters segment.

That'd be a good segment to continue with, I think. That's good. It's got a theme and it goes like this. That's good. It's got a theme and it goes like this. That's good. The classic one was Letters, oh letters, we love you, some letters, they're only a day away We're gonna hear right now, we're gonna do letters. I was camping on the weekend Mason, you know that. Oh yes. In the bush, Claire and I took the kids in with a bunch of other families, a lot of fun. Saw a bunch of snakes. Whoa. Fucking snakes everywhere in this country. Snakes alive.

I'm living in the suburbs. Yeah. Snake free. Yeah. Saw two snakes at least. Damn. Plus a bunch of blue tongue lizards. Damn.

Plus a deer skeleton. That was strange. Yeah. We don't even have deer here. We don't. I brought that one with me. Yeah, I was going to say. You bought it on eBay. Yeah, man. Dragging it around.

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To weeklyplanetpodatgmail.com. Here's one from Tom. Tomplanetpod.gmail.com. Here's one from Tom. Tom. Tom Moore. Tom Moore? I wonder if he's Major Tom Moore. Do you think he is?

You know that guy who walked around his, is that the guy? Who did he walk around? Walked around his garden? Who did he walk around? The garden. Is that the guy? Doesn't matter. Anyway.

We've all walked around our garden. I don't know. Some people can't actually afford gardens, Mason. That's rude of you to say. Sorry. Tom Moore says, Arkham Shadow, question mark? Oh, this VR thing. Yeah, g'day there, g'day there, Mason. That's rude of you to say. Sorry. Tom Moore says, Arkham Shadow question mark. Oh, this VR thing. Yeah, g'day there, g'day there, boys.

G'day, thank you for having me. I've been a huge fan since 2014. I would love a shout out to Toronto, Canada. I escaped the dystopia of the UK a few years ago. I bet you did. Congratulations. You're probably sick of walking around your garden. Hell yeah. If in fact, I'm thinking of Tom Moore.

Could you Google that? Yep. I expect neither James nor Maceau has a VR headset, correct? Yep. But I've been watching a longau has a VR headset, correct? Yep. But I've been watching a long play of the Batman Arkham Shadow game. Was stunned to find out that the player goes into Blackgate under the alias of Matches Malone.

World War II veteran, 100 walks, 660 miles around his garden. I knew it. Oh, that's pretty good actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. A fun Batman alter ego I learned about on the pod from Maceau. So he goes in as Matches Malone. Sick.

What are your thoughts on the way gaming is going, AKA all remakes, studio closures, and existing IPs being milked? Are there any new releases you're actually interested in? All the best, Tom. It's bad. It does seem to be bad, doesn't it? I don't like it. I mean, based on a very cursory examination of the video game industry currently, it's a lot of companies, small studios, making a big hit. And then the larger company that owns them going, this is ours. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks.

We own this now. And thanks for the big hit. Also, we're just you're all fired, by the way. Yeah. Good luck finding the next game. What do you want? Yeah. What how much how much success can you possibly demand of these studios so they don't get fired? It's crazy. Yep. I recently watched an interview,

or listened to an interview. Which was it? Both. Great. Well done. I think it was Adam Conover and Jason Schreier. Yeah, Adam Conover is Adam's, Adam ruins everything. The Adam ruins everything, which look, quite frankly, I get it.

Everything's bad. I can't watch that show. It's just like, you know your insurance, it's bad. Like, yeah, I fucking know, man. Everything's bad. I can't watch that show. It's just like, you know how your insurance is bad. Like, yeah, I fucking know, man. It's what? But, um. I'm insuring something right now. But, um.

My wonderful golden smile. Very true. Million dollars, ding. Million dollars for that? Yeah. Jesus, all right. But anyway, Jason Schreier is one of the most renowned video game journalists.

He finds it like he does some incredible in-depth reporting and all of that. So there's an hour and a half plus conversation, which I listen to and it just kind of breaks down everything that's wrong. And one of the things they mentioned was the thing that you said, like buying up indie studios. They got it from me. Yeah, they got it from you and burying it. Also like the idea that they just want to monopolize everybody's time so they make these games that go on forever and ever and they're constant. But every studio is trying to release one of them at the same time, but there's

only ever room for like, maybe a handful of those games existing at any one time. So like Sony, I kind of, I don't even know the name of it because I've forgotten. There's one of these, it's seemingly every other week. They released this like, like this multi-million dollar, like tens, sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars production online go forever game. And they just fucking vanish. Yeah, there it was like it's like a rock into the ocean it's called like carapace or caramel or something maybe it's like an overwatch whatever game and people like not and even overwatch 2 did it hmm what

happened to that nothing so it's this this idea of like it's awful yeah like I yeah I think the I mean the thing is well, I think we've kind of reached, it seems How about some PS5 games? I was going to say we've seemed to reach sort of maximum graphical fidelity at this point, like at the point when no one cares anymore. Nobody's like, it doesn't need to be, we don't need to see every blade of grass on the ground. We would rather have a fun game.

Apparently younger people, younger than us, if you can imagine that, are more into indie games because they've grown up in a world where games look photo realistic, so it doesn't impress them anymore. So they'd rather just be like, oh, that game's got a cool concept. I'd rather play that. Yeah, isn't Astrobot doing quite well?

Yeah, apparently that's all right. Maybe I'll go that one. That doesn't have the most amazing graphics, but it's fun. Probably does though if it's a PS5 thing. Yeah, probably. But also, I think, look, Nintendo does a lot of shit that I do not like. But at least it's making like, IP that's not games that go on forever. And you know when they release a Mario game, it's probably going to be incredible.

And they don't do it that often. I know they have various spin-offs and whatever. They made that alarm clock that's incredible. They made that alarm clock that's incredible. Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, you know and they don't do it that often I know that very spin-off some whatever made that alarm clock. I meant that alarm clock. It's incredible exactly That's what I'm talking about. She was telling me that it's got some sort of like It can you know collect your biometric data or whatever and or you know it can you know and it gives you personalized messages Or something like that, but it doesn't work if there's two people in the bed So it's only for single people. They can't collect both sets of data.

I mean, they know, don't they? Yeah, they know. Because it's for children or single people is what they're saying. Yeah. That's so funny. Why do you even want a fucking clock that knows what you're doing? Like, who wants that? Who is this for? I don't know. I guess people who want to believe they're married to Mario.

They could have just released a... Super Mario. ...a clock that's just got Mario on a screen and when you wake up he goes, Hello! And that's it. Like a kid would buy that. You pay 30 bucks. Hey, get up you lazy son of a bitch. Reading biometric data. Yeah, I don't know what it does.

Fucking hell, man. I don't even want my watch looking at me, Mason. Wow. With its face. You don't have a watch. With its head. I know. I don't have a watch. I had a Fitbit for a while and I'm like, I fucking hate this thing. Telling me to get up. You get up.

Yeah. I got in the shower. I'd get in the shower and it would go, calm down. And I'm like, I'm in the fucking shower. This is the best place in the world. You calm down. It's like, no, you calm down. I hate all this shit.

It's nonsense. It's nothing. Like it's just this, just all this tacked on shit. I'm already in my own fucking brain. I don't need to, yes. I don't need external forces like alerting me if my fucking pulse drops slightly Shut up. Oh, I did a workout. Now. You did a workout. I know I fucking did it. I was there Hey James, what do you think about getting a real job today? Yeah, maybe I should

That's not wrong. Well, but I don't need a fucking clock to tell me that maybe you do But I don't need a fucking clock to tell me that maybe you do Anyway sucks all that shit sucks. Yes. Are you looking forward to any video games? No Wow? I know I'd literally just googled you know what I'm looking forward to There's a they're gonna remake Prince of Persia Sands of Time, and I know it's a remake But I love that game, and I I played every couple of years anyway I'm looking forward to any little small indie game that you can get on Nintendo Switch. Yep, there you go. So if anybody's got any recommendations.

I'm gonna play Nunes Unleashed with my son, which is a new Ninja Turtles game, I'll play that. I like playing games with him, it's fun, and my kids. I like to dredge, folks, if you remember that game. The boat one? The boat one, and I liked that one where you're a woman and you point and click in your way through a village of people and they're all mean. Is it a Cthulhu-ish one? It's a little bit Cthulhu-ish. You love a Cthulhu and you point and click in your way through a village of people and they're all mean.

Is it a Cthulhuish one? It's a little bit Cthulhuish. You love a Cthulhuish point and click through a thing or whatever. If anybody's got any recommendations, let me know. Hobbs Barrow was called. Hobbs Barrow. The Excavation of Hobbs Barrow. Yeah, you mentioned that I think.

Did you not? Yeah, it was good. Should I get it? Yeah, get it. Get it. Is it going to tell me to get a real job? Yeah, almost certainly. Yeah. And I liked the most recent, get it. Get it. Is it going to tell me to get a real job? Yeah, almost certainly. Yeah.

And I like the most recent Monkey Island game. Oh yeah. And I like other stuff. Oh yeah. I play recently. I was Resident Evil 4 twice. Oh yeah, great. Good game.

Yeah, nice. Twice. Great. This is from CappyBara14 who says, hashtag weeklyplanapod. I downloaded Twitter again just to ask this. You didn't have to do that. Have you guys ever read the comic revival? I've been by a couple of Canadians and they just filmed part of a show there and they're making a small uh for in my small town of New Brunswick,

Canada. And nothing big ever happens here. Exciting? Oh, not a question. Exciting. I've not listened. I've not read revival. I know I wanted to at something now. I know. I wanted to... Ooh, I might be looking at this. Tell me about it. It's an image comics imprint. Oh. Here we go. Set in central Wisconsin, Revival follows the aftermath of the dead coming back to life. Story is sent around Detective Dana Cypress and her revived sister, Em, as it touches

on religion, moral, and social themes. And as they investigate, they find Em's murder to be closely linked to the Revival. There we go. I like that. Ooh. Okay. social themes and as they investigate they find M's murder to be closely linked to the revival. Very good. I like that one. Okay. There we bloody go. About time something from a comic book's adapted to a mouth of a hand. I know.

You know what I'm talking about? I know. You know what I'm talking about? You're not wrong. Got another letter there? I got a couple more letters. Let's do it. This one's from Patrick.

Patrick. Subject line Viewmaster. Ugh. Hello gentlemen, I love the show. Ugh. I was a child during the 1970s, from Patrick Patrick subject line Viewmaster. Yeah. Hello gentlemen. I love the show I was a child during the 1970s the heyday of the Viewmaster for one Christmas My dad got us as deluxe Viewmaster that man that could play sound from special Viewmaster discs didn't know that happened Let me tell you this thing was crap It was made out of the same stuff 1970s telephones were made of and required for d-sized batteries

It weighed a ton and sounded worse than a cheap record player at the time. Plus, we had a TV where we could see moving pictures with half-decent sound. What are they thinking making this into a movie? But isn't that, I mean, that's... That's the same logic of like, we were just talking about video games, like the Virtual Boy. You know what I mean? Where it's like, they just take the existing technology and go,

well, people will pay for it if we add another thing to it. What if we put it on your head? Exactly. It's like, oh what if the Game Boy but you looked into the thing and people would have... It failed because people are like, we've got Super Nintendo already. Yeah, why would I want to look into this? Why would I... Can't two player it unless you have two of these horrible things? It doesn't even have mode seven.

So it's red. Yeah, it was red. Red graphics really? Yeah red graphics. God. Well I wish my name was Red Graphics. I was going to say. Probably a character in the movie Lawnmower Man. Yeah. Look it's Red Graphics, he's getting all the data. Never saying it. Mason got this from ManderMan who says, hashtag with the Planet Pod. Hello boyos. That's us. James recently spoke of Denny Villeneuve's fantastic movie Prisoners. I especially love the tension and mystery of it and wonder if you can recommend any more great thrillers for the spooky season. I'm not big on the gruesome but I love suspense. We'll probably

do some spooky stuff next week I'd imagine. Can you think of any good thrillers Mason? No. What about? Go on. What's that one? Misery. That's a good classic thriller. Yes. So there is some, there's some stuff in the mix. You could watch the substance. I do. I have not watched that yet. We could talk about that. That's a good one. What's another good, what's another good spooky mystery Mason? Doesn't have to be spooky or a mystery. Does it have to be a mystery? Okay,

right. But yes. Memento? Memento. There's a thrill to that, but it's not like a violent time. That's true. What else, Mason? Just giving this a go. Oh, the Glass trilogy. Oh, yes. The Shyamalan one. Yeah, for sure. Oh, you like the movie The Bone Collector, don't you? Don't. I don't remember it.

Is that Angelina Jolie? Is she in The Bone Collector? And Morgan Freeman? Is that The Bone Collector? You're thinking of all the pretty girls or along came the spider, mate. All the pretty horses. All the pretty horses. And all the pretty men. Yeah.

What about The Shining? I've heard of it. And the sequel, Doctor Fate. That's a good one. We'll talk about some spooky stuff next week. Okay, let's do it. Yeah, that's great stuff. I should have probably thought about this more.

But yes. Here's an email. What do you think about this? It's from Cooper. Cooper. Opinion on the franchise as someone who works in the industry. Did you catch up on the franchise? I have not watched it yet.

It's pretty fun, I like it. Yeah, I gotta watch it. Hi, my name's James. I've been working in film in NYC for the last handful of years, and the franchise is probably the best representation of what life on set is actually like. Hell yeah.

The thing that most connected with me was the ending of the first episode where the main character explains why he puts up with what is potentially one of the most stressful jobs in the world. It's all about the love of the game. My bad days on set end when I remember what I'm doing, and that's making movies. Yeah, it's like us, but with podcasts.

Yeah. I love you guys. You should get some credit for my career paths. Been listening since I was 13. Whoa! That's from Cooper the prop master. I don't know if you saw this clip, James in the week Daniel Bruhl who was in that movie Yeah, he talks about he talks about how

Someone asked him like have you you know was your experience on the Marvel movies that you've brought to this about this terrible for you Know this you know disaster area of a movie production And he's like no the the Marvel movies are a pretty well-oiled machine because he's but you know He did a bunch of yeah, you know, you know, he did he did Civil War and he did something else Falcon and Winter Soldier and etc And he was like for those well-oiled machine had a great time and he's like but going into this He was phony would sort of focus on a thing. He did where from the moment he went into it He was like, oh, this is gonna be awful,. But I'm here now and there's no way out. Right. Yeah.

And he's 100% talking about the Cloverfield paradox. Remember that? I forgot he was in that. Couldn't tell you about it. Yeah. Yeah. God. Had the Cloverfield monster at the end though, didn't it? Yeah, it did.

And it was really big. Like too big. Too big? Yeah. Too big. Big as the Everest or whatever. Yeah. Too big. Biggest Everest or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got one more here from Alex Parsons who says, I feel like James and Mesa have lost their passion for their work and I'm here for it. Hashtag with the Atlanta pod. Wow. Might seem that way. But I'll tell you this Mesa, I love doing this. Me too. Even

when it's rubbishing a bad thing like Venom 3. Yeah. It's a lot of fun. And I hope it doesn't come across that we don't like this because I do. Yeah. I love doing it. I enjoy, but I mean again there is that- I like the speculation. I like the speculation. I love- I like the industry.

It feels good to enjoy a really good thing and it feels fun to destroy a bad thing. The only weak point is when you watch a movie and you're like this is wasn't even fun to make fun of You know, I mean absolutely luckily venom was that's right and Madam web was yep. We're gonna we're gonna cover that and craven when that comes out the last spot of the year Get ready folks. Maybe ever. Yeah, maybe the last bomb ever. Maybe God He's one more email from will hey will Will. Who said, a Bond casting solution. I thought this was quite interesting. Okay.

Hello, my handsome sons. That's us. I had a bit of an out there thought on the next Bond movie and how to cast the lead role. Alright. Call the movie Double O casts three actors who are all convincingly in the running to play James Bond for the next ten years and in the movie they're three rookies, any of whom may end up being promoted to Double O7. I don't mind that.

Yeah, yeah. For a historical mishmash example, imagine Clive Owen, Henry Cavill and Idris Elba all in the same movie. You don't know until after the world is saved who gets promoted to acting career lockdown mode for the next decade. Are they not given a name, I guess? Great question. I mean, like, so James Bond isn't a code name, it's the name of the person.

Yeah. And they're given temporary agent names and at the end you're like Yeah, maybe James Bond. Maybe I mean we can nitpick this all day and we will is your first nitpick. No wasn't a nitpick I think this is a really good idea Yeah I think getting the two losing actors involved might be intriguing to them because they would effectively get the chance to basically be Bond But not be stuck in a long contract. Yeah, and as an audience member I'd like the idea of going in and trying to predict who gets

the job in the same way as predicting the killer in a Knives Out style mystery. And they film three endings. They film three endings. And they show them all. Yes. Right? And they don't tell the actor either. No.

And at the end, and when the movie's finally released, they're all in the cinema and one of them's like, oh no, I've got to be James Bond for 10 years. Everybody's already writing hit pieces about how bad I am at it. This is awful. I guess you do run the risk of that where you make the movie and you pick the one the audience doesn't like. I think that would be very interesting.

Then again, what you could do is you could have the one who becomes have the one who is You know becomes double-oh-seven killed in the next move and replace him with a second. Yeah, I just like yeah Yeah, unless you kill the other two guys. Yeah. Yeah kill them all but then you bring him back the cloning machine Oh my god, perfect solution James Bond cloning machine. Yes. Yeah, just put one of those in the movie. That's right We've done it. Haven't we nice. We've done another great podcast You're welcome, the internet. That's right. You dogs. Whoa!

Yeah, that's right. Come on, man. They're all right. Yeah, they're all right. I actually like dogs. Where's Ollie? Oh, Ollie's at my parents because it's camping. I couldn't bring her camping.

I understand. So I haven't picked her up yet because I just got back and I've been doing this podcast with you. So true. Do you remember? Yeah. I think it's all worth it.. So true. Do you remember? Yeah. I think it's all worth it. To have the dog.

Awake. Yeah. To do this great podcast. I think everybody will appreciate it. I agree. Yeah. All right. Let's go.

Let's wrap the whole thing up. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. What are we doing next week? Spooky stuff maybe? I think there might be another movie coming out. Oh, if there's another movie. We could do Venom 3 again.

Venom 3? There's a third Venom movie? Oh the Gladiator? No. Soon though. That's soon. We'll make Gladiator this week for Caravan of Garbage. Damn, Gladiator is a good movie. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get new listeners. Oh, thanks to everybody who popped in. I went to see Zach and Alexi's play. They were doing the trial of this play where they are for part of it. They play, uh, Australian movie reviewing legends, Margaret and David from after the movies and it's a story about, uh, their fight against censorship

in the early two thousands. A lot of fun, good fun. But I met some listeners there, uh, who all who popped in to say hello to me. They said, where's James? They didn't say any of that. I said, where's James? No, they didn't. He's our favorite.

Where is he? No, nobody's setting up that. The movie here is out. Oh yeah. Single room. I've heard that's bad. Interesting. But anyway, thanks to already popped in and said, hi, um, they are doing that.

Those were trial shows they are doing. And I think next year for all the various Australian festivals. So if you want to see it at the Melbourne Comedy Festival, the Sydney Comedy Festival, probably even the Adelaide Fringe Festival. I don't know. Wow. Well they're two cool dudes. They are two cool dudes. I would like that. Anyway, tell your friends.

Yep. But also subscribe and leave a five star review wherever you can. It's probably pretty easy. You can do it in app and if you do so, James will find it and he'll read it out. You can even do it if you're this person, buried alien. Well, don't do it again. Well, presumably if you did, if there were the alien, they'd got us some kind of extraterrestrial cell phones. Even if you are buried, your phone will still work.

Shut up. Shut up. Because they've left this with you. Shut up. And it's got five stars, Mason. Just shut up. And he says, or she, or them, or they says, I think y'all might be loud. I've been listening to this podcast for years.

My wife has always referred to you all as the Australian guys that scream everything. I've never paid her compliments much. Sorry, you should pay her compliments. I think so too. I never paid her complaints much mind. Happy wife, happy life, you know what I mean? I agree, until the air went out of my Honda.

I live in Georgia where the real feel is August with 113 degrees. So I basically have to drive everywhere with my windows down. I was surprised to learn that while driving full speed to work with the windows down, the only podcast that I could still understand over the wind were in fact James and Mayso. That's us. We're windproof. That's right. If you're looking for a podcast louder than the interstate. Like a North Face jacket, James. We're windproof. Windproof. You could wear that, James. Wear windproof. Windproof.

You could wear that to Everest. That's right. If you're looking for a podcast louder than the interstate wind, this is the one for you. This one's from Jack the Great who says, podcast, these two guys are a little too chipper and upbeat for my taste. Not this week. Why haven't the weight of God's cruel jokes crushed their spirits into fine dust like the rest of us?

That's a great question. Just absurd. Probably the money. Good guys though, yeah. the rest of us. That's a great question. Just absurd. Probably the money. Good guys though, yeah. Five out of five is dust. Thank you so much. Yeah, don't worry. We're plenty crushed.

We just don't bring it to this. That's right. We walk around with our shoulders slumped though in real life. Exactly. We take it out on our loved ones. That's right. It's perfect. It's the perfect scenario.

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25% rotten tomatoes we haven't looked at it as a Mecus movie. Since we- I'm gonna say ever. Yeah, but we did a commentary for the Polar Express. We did too. Awful, upsetting, ugh. Why does he do that? He did do it. Why does he do it?

Why does it? This was real time de-aging as well, wasn't it, or something? God, just make back to the future again. Which is what we all want, definitely. Robert Zemeckis' new film here is quite simply beautiful. Oh, you know what he directed? You liked this one. He directed the Pinocchio reboot.

No, I didn't. I saw that and you didn't see that. Because you tricked me. Do you want to watch it again in preparation for this? Maybe. Oh, it's based on a graphic novel. Did you know that? Or a comic book or something.

Courtney Howard on Twitter says, this adaptation stinks. That's good. Oh, well, I'm interested to know how they do it. Courtney Howard on Twitter says this adaptation stinks. So that's good. Yeah. Oh, well I'm interested to know how they do it. Right. How do you even pull off something like this? You don't.

You don't. You put guys in a room. What's the budget on this? Too much. Let me check. 50 million. Is that true? I don't know.

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