The Weekly Planet - 558 The Best & Worst of 2024 Awards

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

All the stars are here for the annual Weekly Planet awards episode! We've got everything from best movie, worst hair and most normal man to get through plus all your regular movie news. Including Christopher Nolan's plot twist of a next movie, a whole bonanza of DCU updates, a gritty TMNT movie and the future of big franchises we love like Marvel and Star Wars. Then a short January break and we'll be ready to do it all again. Thank you for listening in 2024.New and weekly bonus episodes will continue releasing throughout the January break on bigsandwich.coYou can also still vote in the awards survey if you like: https://forms.gle/kZGjzMCVXaWUJo7Q7Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Maybe skip an extra few minutes.00:00 The Start04:33 Chris Nolan's Next Movie Revealed09:28 Batman & Scooby Doo Wild Story17:00 DCU Updates: Clayface, Flash, Teen Titans, Creature Commandos23:07 TMNT Last Ronin Movie Director (comic spoiler warning)33:21 Spider-Man 4 Movie Latest35:52 Andor Season 2's Massive Budget40:04 The Best & Worst of 2024 Awards01:53:04 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:56:54 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James. Also known as Mr. Sunday with me as always, my co-host Nick Mason. In the spirit of Christmas and the new year and forgiveness. Yep. I'm not going to mention the TV shoes. Well, even though we could, we could do a whole episode on TV shoes. You think you could do that?

Yeah. You think I would roll with that and riff with you the entire time? I think you would. I probably would. Remember that time you were obsessed with James Bond and his brogues or whatever? You remember that? I don't. I vaguely remember were obsessed with James Bond and his brogues or whatever? You remember that? I don't. I vaguely remember.

It's vaguely coming to mind. Okay. Well, fine. Even though he predominantly doesn't wear a brogue, why would he? That's a country shoe. He's a city boy. Yeah, but you don't think he ever changes up his outfits? Probably when he went to Skyfall.

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Or a hunting jacket and whatever. Probably. Had a shotgun croaked under his arm. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, man.

Look, big show, Mason. Do you know why? Why's that? Because we're doing our best and worst of the year. That's right. We're giving away some awards. That's right. One day somebody's going to accept an award.

They have to. I think what will happen someday is someone will approach a celebrity we've mentioned on the podcast, like one of our listeners, will approach- Aggressively. Aggressively in the street and just play them the bit. Yeah. Like, hey listen to this! And it'll us be going, oh yeah, and then the winner of Best Hair is Chris Evans, he's

done it again or whatever. Yeah. And Chris Evans will be like, oh okay man, yeah great. This is your show? No, it's a show I listen to! It's on my YouTube channel also! Yeah. But it actually is a show that I'm on.

Because that was me. Look at you, you're wearing a wig. Sometimes you wear a wig, though I know. I've seen you wear a wig. Yeah. Sometimes he's wearing a wig. So Mason, we're going to get into that, but we're also going to talk about the confirmation of Christopher Nolan's next film and how he tricked us all Mason.

Tricked us all, didn't he? Makes me upset. Or someone tricked us. Some scooper. Yeah. Some pooper scooper. We've got it. We're going to talk about some DC updates including around Creature Commandos 2 and The Flash and that Clayface movie. Also there might be a Teen Titans movie going into production it seems. We're going to talk about a director for a Ninja Turtles The last ronin movie. Oh and then big spider-man 4 news I'm gonna do a little and or and I think I'll ask Ronan move. We'll get to it How are they gonna do it? Well, you said it up you make it the 80s one is the first one and then you jump ahead

Yeah, but I mean without spoiling it. Yeah, like everybody knows a twist. Yeah mix the twist up. We'll talk about it We'll talk about it. We might even talk about it in this show. Let talk about it in that segment. You said where you announced that they announced the movie We'll talk about it then. Okay, once we get done with the spoiler alert. Yeah. Yeah, we'll do a spoiler alert Yeah, there's time goes below Rob Collins who edits this who does a wonderful job For a wonderful time of the year. That's right. Any time of year. Any time of year and I've been bothering I had to bother him over the Christmas season, which I didn't like doing. So I was thinking maybe next year we might stop before Christmas. Interesting. I don't know.

So I'm not bothering everybody. What if we stop now? Yeah, we could stop now, I guess. Okay, bye everyone. This is good enough, isn't it? That's right. Yeah. Did you have a nice Christmas, James?

I did actually. Nice. What did you do have a, it's Christmas. I went over to my sister's house. Oh yeah, what's she like? She's nice. Yeah, is she? Yes.

All right. Did you listen to this? No. You can say it. What do you really like? She's nice. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, sure. All Yes. All right. Did you listen to this? No. You can say it. What do you really like? She's nice. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, sure. All right. All right, Mason. Yeah. Ask me what my brothers are like. I know your brother. Yeah, but what are they? Ask me.

They're dogs. Dogs. They're absolute dogs. Both of them. And some of them, sometimes they listen to this. Yeah, I know. That's why I'm saying this. To really let them know that my opinion of them hasn't changed over the years.

I still think they're a couple of dogs. They're dogs. A couple of low dogs. Now just in terms of when we're back, there's going to be a break next week. Then Rob Collings puts together the best of episode. That's right. Which goes out on the 13th, which goes anywhere between two and seven hours, depending on how funny we were.

Sometimes it's broken into two parts. Sometimes it is. Over a span of weeks. That's right. Maybe this time it'll be two 15 minute episodes. It might be. Every year I'm like, I don't think we've said enough funny stuff. No, I don't think so.

But did we say enough interesting stuff? No, also no. So no. You could just pop in some stuff from previous years. I don't think anyone would know. I think so. Nobody cares. Then there might be something extra the week after, something from BigSandwich.co.

We'll talk about it maybe. Well, that might happen. And then we'll be back definitively on the 27th of January for a big new start to the year. We might just pre-record that after this and just be like, what happened here everyone? It's the 27th of January. Yeah, we're still recovering. Yeah.

Because we party hard. No, no, we'll take a break. We'll come back. Nice. All right.. Yeah, yeah, cuz we party hard. No, no, we'll take a break. We'll come back Yes. All right. Let's start with this Mason. Go on. Let's start with this Christopher Nolan's next film has been announced and it's not the movie Helicopse, which is what we thought He's a real one of your brothers as far as I agree a low dog the lowest of dogs Yeah, that's right. So it's gonna be an adaptation of Homer's the Odyssey. Mmm, which I've not seen Okay, is it good? Yes. It's good. Is it? Yeah, that's right from So it's going to be an adaptation of Home is the Odyssey, which I've not seen. Is it good?

Yes. It's good, is it? Yeah, that's right. It's from the eighties, that movie. Well, no, it's from the eighties. I probably wouldn't have seen it. Yeah. We'll talk about that in a second.

Yeah, we'll talk about it. So this is what? So this is the movie that was announced starring Matt Damon and Tom Holland. Zendaya. Yep, Anne Hathaway, Lupita Nyong'o, Charlie's Throne's got a small role in it as well. So this is some of Nolan's kind of stalwarts, some of his faves. Matt Damon, of course, often a, you know, a recurring supporting role in a lot of his stuff.

And Hathaway has of course been in the, you know, Interstellar and Batman and etc. She's also in, what's that movie called? the you know, Interstellar and Batman and etc. She's also in a movie called Princess Bride. Princess Diary, sorry. Okay. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. And there's a sequel. Yes, back in the habit. I know. Yes, sorry, go on. Back in the habit of being a princess.

Yes, that's right. But and some newbies. So Tom Holland. Yes. But I am sure you what what we're getting to hear is obviously what we'll get to we'll get to talking about the Odyssey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think what we're getting to hear is what kind of a joke has Christopher Nolan played on us because I can this is just this this feels like now now in retrospect and with the benefit of hindsight, this is a classic little joke that Christopher Nolan he's he's

there on Christmas Day. He's got his little paper crown on. Yeah, it's got a little paper scarf that he's made out of crowns. And he's just tittering away with his family and he's like, oh, I got them good. They all thought I was doing a movie about helicopters called Helicopts. Helicopts origin legacy. I looked back at when we originally talked about this. Because there was documentary evidence.

Production Weekly said that the next movie was about a pair of aerial helicopter cops with an older mentor and a younger lead. And then that also confirmed a rumor that the film is inspired by Blue Thunder, which is a movie from the 80s starring Roy Schneider. Roy Scheider. Scheider, sorry. You're thinking of Rob Schneider. I am thinking of Rob Schneider from Jaws, who pilots a stealth super futuristic helicopter called

Blue Thunder. And we were like, I guess he's a fan of this movie. Or it's something to do with the surveillance state. Maybe that's what he's riffing on this time. There was also a Reddit post from user Doc Jamie J claiming that it was good. Yeah, that talked about how he went into a police station and whatever and did all this. So there's layers to this. Hello, do you have any helicopters? No. Where your local police station in Surrey or wherever you live? Oh yeah, yeah he would live in Surrey wouldn't he?

Yeah I don't know what that is. I don't know. That's not happening apparently. Well the other thing is Tom Holland went on the- We only have clubs for a British police station. We're Bobbies. We're Bobbies.'s you want to look at our weird helmets. Yes. Thank you So Tom Holland went on the dish podcast this week, I don't know if you like that Yeah, and he said hasn't started shooting yet to be perfectly honest with you. I don't know anything about it I'm super excited. Everything is very hush hush. I met with Nolan. It was awesome. He's kind of I know I should be doing the voice

Yeah, that's fine. He kind of Christmas. It was awesome. He's kind of, I know I should be doing the voice. Yeah, but that's fine. It's Christmas. Let's not do the voice. Let's not. Let's give him a break. He kind of loosely pitched what it was and I'm sure when he's ready, he'll announce what it is. So yeah, so I don't know. Do you, what it, what it is? Cause he is, he has a very dry sense of humor. If you see him in interviews, like he does seem stoic and serious, but there is that kind of like... Oh, he's funny, yeah. He's funny. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, this is... Did all of this come from... Because you've mentioned there, all the clues here have got... You've mentioned a bunch of different sources, but did they all come from the same guy? Was he... Is he going to do it? Is this Nolan's... Did all this come from Nolan's camp or did somebody just, is it one of those things where somebody faked up that, because there was a little production slip or something like that.

I think you can't fake a piece of white paper with some black writing on it. You can't fake that. And it said helicopter cops and it was like authorization to film or whatever. So did somebody make that and then everybody else, including us jumped on it because we're stupid. And then somebody went, well, what if I also say that it's based on... Came to my brother's police station and whatever. Exactly that's right yeah. Maybe it's happening but it's like a Jonathan Nolan TV show and he's producing or whatever.

Oh there's two projects. He's doing Westworld, Jonathan Nolan. What if Christopher Nolan is doing The Odyssey and his brother is doing the Blue Thunder TV series but it's the same cast. Yes. And it's got parallels. Parallels. What if it is the same production?

Maybe it's Home is the Odyssey slash Helicopse. Maybe it is. Set in the future or whatever. Or the near future or the 80s or something. Odysseus meets the helicopter cops. It's a Scooby-Doo meets Batman situation. I did get my son a Scooby-Doo meets Batman situation. I did get my son a Scooby-Doo meets Batman comic for Christmas, which we've been reading through.

How is that back? That concept? Yeah, it was from like 2020. Okay, right. But yeah, there's a few volumes. So interestingly... The first story, right? The first one was like, Batman got his gloves stolen from an exhibition so he got in the Scooby gang to like work out... Did he infiltrate them as matches?

No, no, he just called them and they were there and I'm like this is the first volume I guess they just know each other. Well, yeah, cuz they know each other from the 60s or whatever that cartoon came out. Well, this one was set in 2020 so I don't understand how any of that works. Sliding time scale. Yeah, sliding time scale. So anyway he's like... But different because Batman doesn't age but the Scooby gang do. So they're like, we're gonna go on an adventure Scooby Gang like we're so old dogs dead

Daphne's also dead. What? Yeah. No, she lost her glasses and then she now that's Velma. Well Daphne has I've had glasses. Yeah, Daphne lost her glasses. You could hit by a bus Yeah, so the first one that they have to figure out how what of Batman's Is it gave some of his suits to a museum. We'll get back to Helicopter. Okay. Suits to a museum. I mean, first, that's bad practice.

I agree. I mean, there's probably DNA evidence. DNA to Batman? Yeah. It's 2020. You've pissed in them? You dumbass. Did you clean them out?

He definitely didn't. There's no way Batman would donate his suit. Well, he did. Wow. Anyway, so he's like, this is my first suit, but the gloves are different. They're not the original gloves, which means these have been taken. But the thing is, they must have been taken from the case when I first used them, because no one got into the Batcave.

Like Alfred said that they didn't. Oh, so Alfred did it. Yeah. Well, it's like, and I have no memory of this. So what I'm going to do, I know a guy who uses hypnosis and time travel, and he's going to send Scooby and Velma and Shaggy back to the past. And I'm like what? To play the games that suck ass? But did he actually send them back in time?

Send their minds back? Is this a days of future past situation? No, they just went back. Did he send their minds back in time to their past bodies? No. So this guy does hypnosis on you and then you go back in time. Yeah, they literally blinked out of existence and appeared in Batman's first case and they get there and they see Batman and they end up, what happens is they end up swapping gloves

with him. Okay. And then they go back to the present day and it turns out that it was them that swapped the gloves into some kind of Ouroboros time loop situation. And I'm like, what the fuck mystery story is this to open with a time travel paradox Kids fucking scooby-doo Batman story my son's like what happened and I'm like I don't really know And then Batman's like hey hypnosis time travel guy any chance we could go back in time and stop Joe chill shooting my parents That alley and he's like nah, I'm right out of time travel juice. Sorry Sorry I ran out of time travel juice when I did the glove swapping thing.

So sorry your parents have to remain dead. Can you believe that's vault that's what that's the first comic can you believe that? Out of the gate. It's not like they go to a haunted fucking carnival and there's a you know there's a guy there and whatever and it's probably the Joker etc. And most of the time it's nothing supernatural happens. No they would, they time travel. It's a guy in a mask. But like it was nothing, it wasn't even like. This is the craziest thing we've ever seen.

It was just like I know this guy who does time travel hypnosis. Wow. Insanity. Helicopter. Anyway, Christopher Olland Dex from The Odyssey is a mythic action epic shot across the world using a brand new IMAX film technology. Love that. Yeah. Carbon fiber. That's right. The film brings... It's quieter than ever. And he would like that because it'd be like quieter on set. Quieter on set. No pissing. Everybody. That's right. You know he doesn't go to the

bathroom or whatever? No he said that. Robert Downey Jr. asked me, he's like when do you go to the bathroom? He's like I go at 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. How vulgar of you, Danny Jr. I suppose you're urinating all day, are you Robert? The film brings home his foundational saga to Ibex. I'll just add that to the schedule. My assistant. Robert will be pissing all day. The film brings home his foundational saga to Ibex. Films goes for the first time and opens in theaters on July 17th, 2026. So two and a bit years away.

Okay. So yeah, The Odyssey, do you want a little update? Do you want a little synopsis? I love a little synopsis. It follows the story of the Greek hero Odysseus. Odysseus, yes. Odysseus, as he journeys home after the Trojan War, presumed dead, Odysseus and his wife Penelope and son, Tumultultuous contend with various suitors who compete

for Penelope's hand in Odysseus' absence. Nice. So the first I'm hearing of any of this. It's set after Troy. Yes. The movie Troy, if you've ever seen that. Also, there's been an Odysseus, there's been an Odyssey movie this year.

Was there? It's the one that Ralph Fiennes got really shredded for. Oh damn, he got all roped in. That was the return, That's the Odyssey. Is that what that is? Yes. Damn. But anyway, there's been a bunch of the Odysseys over the years.

I'd rather we're out there is the Odyssey. That's my fav pick for an Odyssey movie, guys. Okay. Is this a sci-fi situation, do you think, though? Do you think he's making it right? No, I think this might be his go at... I reckon we might even be seeing some sort of Clash of the Titans or um, like Ray Harryhausen. Yeah, Ray Harryhausen, claymation situation, because they did some of

them Skeleton Crew as I understand. They did, they did stop motion in there. You've been watching that? No, good. Okay then I'll get back to it. I'll give it a bit of time after this. Good Mason. Yeah, um, but yeah I think this might be like his take on that. Okay, yeah. I don't know. I don't I don't know where his taste lie besides this is all a lie. This might be a lie Maybe it is helicopters again. God. Yeah This guy how does he do it? Yeah. Anyway, whatever he's doing. He's doing a modern-day interpretation of SWAT cats What's what was that like a Ninja Turtles knockoff? Yeah, it was like an animated series from like the 90s I think SWAT cats do I remember thisoff? Yeah, it was like an animated series from like the 90s. I think swat cats Do I remember this one? Oh, yeah, I know this yeah it is. It's one of those biker mice from Mars, etc

It's one of those ones. There's only two of them. I don't know. It's called swat cats the radical squadron, but there's two of them Why are there only two squat cats? Because one has to be played by Matt Damon and one has to be played by Tom Olin. That's a good point. So it's perfect, isn't it? Yeah, I guess it is. It's synchronicity, isn't it? You need at least three, man. It's syncope.

Yes, it is. Which is the name of his production company. It's Cats with a K, by the way. We know. Do we? Yeah. Also, it's pronounced Swat Cats. Swat Cats.

Great. Anyway, whatever Nolan's doing, I'm interested. Same. He's always doing stuff, and I like that. Same. He's always doing stuff and I like that about him. He's always doing stuff, yeah. And he's, you know, he hasn't had a movie since like last year and we need another one. It's true, yeah. So get on it, man.

Has he done before mythic, he's not done anything kind of mythical, beast situations? Apparently he was up, he turned down Troy for Batman. Oh right, yeah, okay. I read that in the comments, so I don't know whether that's actually true. Okay. But maybe it's just been in his brain the whole time. Yeah, maybe. I'm just out of Troy. I would that in a comment, so I don't know whether that's actually true. Okay, but maybe it's just been in his brain the whole time Maybe I missed out on a try. Mm-hmm. I've done a better try Do you think you would have done a better try? That try that came on to screen was hot garbage?

I thought it was all right What what do you think is all right good bloody fellow warehouse James? Do you think yes James do you like SWAT cats? Yes Okay, I Would come home from school and I you like SWAT cats? Yes. Okay. I would come home from school and I would watch SWAT cats. Wait, how old are you? Because SWAT cats came out in 1993.

Film school. I came home from film school. Great. I watched SWAT cats and I would wish that my uvra would be as good as SWAT cats and now it will be. I guess it will be. After you do whatever you're fucking Christopher Nolan that's right I was gonna say James Gunn you're Christopher Nolan correct okay should we move it on yes here's some DC updates Mason go on James Gunn was asked why are

they doing a clay face movie James why he said because of the number one rule here on up to James Gunn show him your phone Yeah, exactly Because the number one rule here at DC no movie will be green lip of green lip before the script is ready and Flanagan script Was ready so there you go. He was asked about the flash What are you gonna do with the character the flash even though we just had a the flash movie Which he endorsed and said was the best movie ever made. That's right. You bring in mind. It's not terrible It's a terrible movie pretty bad. It's a ghoulish nightmare.houlish nightmare. Sometimes you need a ghoulish nightmare. Yeah, throw one in there.

Chuck it in. Get one a year. And he said, and as for the Flash, we're holding a beat on development. Interesting. I would say that makes sense. Give it a minute. Yeah. Yeah, give it a minute. Put him in a Justice League movie at some point or something. I'll put him in the background of Creature Commandos and then we can fold him in later. I think they have done that. I think it's Wally West.

Good. Good. Yeah. Because this we're doing, you know, with the new DC, we're doing a step, you know, established universe for a number of years. Yeah. Probably in time for a couple of the flashes. I would say almost certainly most. And also we've got confirmation that Creature Commandos is getting a season two. That's right.

Which isn't surprising. It's a big hit apparently. A lot of streams and so forth. But who knows. I saw him, I think it was on Happy Sad Confused the Podcast. Might have been that or a different one. I think it was that one. Was it our podcast? Yeah, it was on our podcast where he spoke to us and he said James and Mayso. Yeah, listen up. Listen. He said Creature Commandos Because he wrote that and he wrote it before he took over the DCU And then he so he did that and then he wrote Superman as a directing. It was like it was too many things. So I don't know maybe he'll step back a bit for season two of this. I do not really know. Teen Titans

though that's going to movie. You remember this? I've heard of Teen Titans. So this is by Production Weekly famously lied to us. I was gonna say that is a name that's got to be etched in my brain forever. Production Weekly fake Made up. Apparently, well their synopsis was... Oh, we're keeping you up to date on production. Weekly. Liars. Yeah, doubtful. Anything with weekly in the name. I agree. Dogs, liars. Low. Yeah. They say the Teen Titans are further apart than ever before, this is their synopsis, until Damien Wayne recruits Starfire, Raven, Beast Boy and New Kid Flasher join him in a fight against his own grandfather Raishel Ghul.

Teen Titans are further apart than ever before until he recruits the Teen Titans? Sure! Is what I'm reading here. Yep. So, okay. Apparently that's not true. Okay, great. Well, this is what Daniel Richderman is saying. Wow, another lie from Production Weekly.

Wow, are they all going to be submarine captains? Production Weekly, is that what Daniel Richmond is Wow another lie from production weekly. Wow, are they all gonna be submarine captains? Production weekly is that what's happening in the Teen Titans movie? I don't want that new enemy for 2025. I agreed But let's start now. So when we come back, yeah, we're ready see them with hatred. Yes, great Daniel Richmond who has a 78 point three five percent accuracy right in terms of scoops and a flip of the coin Definitely. He says the team they're using is the same as Teen Titans. Presumably Teen Titans go? Except Robin is Damien Wayne.

Well no, he's saying it's Dick Grayson, Robin, Raven, Starfire, Cyborg and Beast Boy, which is the team in the show. Yeah, right. Also, I think I mentioned this last week, but I've been watching a bit of that with my kids. It's great. It's so fucking funny and strange and like a lot of weird deep cuts and and if that's the team that like kids know Teen that kids know then yeah, you would go with that. Absolutely. Yeah, the Titans go with that exactly Ah, is it in the series? Is it unclear which Robin it is? It's just Robin. No, it's Dick Grosson

I just digress. I'm pretty sure I'll say there you go. Let me guess. It's not that clear. No, it is. It's just Robin. No, it's Dick Grosson. Oh, it is Dick Grosson. I'm pretty sure. Well, see, there you go. Let me check. Yes, it's not that clear. No, it is. Is it? Because you never, do you ever see them as their civilian identities or it's just, I don't know, shows where they're just. It just says Robin. Let's have a look at this. I'm just looking at all these voice actors and they're all adults. Whoa. What the hell? Wow.

Which, God, I can't, maybe it's not. He dresses like, yeah, but who knows? Well, see, that's the thing. I saw a discussion about this recently that, because you know how there's multiple Robins, James. You're aware of this. No, he says it's Richard John Grayson. So it is, yeah. Sorry, go on. It's one of the Robins, Tim Drake,

who's the third Robin. Who's Tim Gray? This guy doesn't know anything. Something TV. Production. TV shoes. TV shoes. No, he said you'd let that go.

He said you wouldn't throw it in my face. No, I said I wouldn't throw it in my face. That's what you do in a relationship. You don't hold onto things. It's interesting. No, I do. That's why all my relationships are so good. I've cracked the code. Yeah, you might have. That Tim Drake gets kind of short shrift in like modern Batman adaptations because he's got like they've retrofitted all his stuff to the other Roberts. Yes. Because like he was the best detective. Well he was the best detective but he also has he got the modern uniform. Like Dick Grayson and Jason Todd both got the short pants.

Underpants. They got the short pants look which doesn't work in a modern setting and when they did Tim Drake they gave him long pants and they gave him the black cape with the yellow on the inside And they gave him the bow stuff and I made him the detective and blah blah blah So whenever they do an adaptation of that Yeah, like when they did Titans the live-action show Dick Grayson got that suit shouldn't get that Oh, that's what I'm saying these little under the underpants exactly right well speaking of scooby-doo bat So now that's so real so what I'm saying is basically Tim Drake as a result in like the wider

Yeah do Batman. So now that's so real. So what I'm saying is basically Tim Drake as a result in like the wider media sphere doesn't have an identity. Cause they're just like, oh he's just a Robin, but he's the one where they got all the good stuff. Sometimes he's got a shaved head. Sometimes he has a shaved head. Oh yeah in the Arkham games he's got a shaved head. Yeah but like whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's your favorite though isn't he? He's my favorite. Yeah well he sucks. Yeah I know. He sucks. He's my favorite. I'll crack the code. He's so vague and amorphous that you can just give his abilities and looks to other people, you know? That's the kind of people you like. Yeah. Yeah, so speaking of Scooby-Doo, which we were in that comic, it's Robin and he's got the little green underpants.

And my son was like, why is he just wearing little green underpants? That's a great point, James' son. That's another thing about this comic that I don't understand. Mostly the time travel stuff. That's the most confusing element to me. Back in the day, James' son, children just wore short pants all the time. Even going to church or whatever. They had these short pants. They had to graduate to long pants. Yeah, that's right.

You wear short pants and a feather boa and you go to church. That's right. All right, this is via My Time to Shine Hello. Oh, big liar. Not as accurate. 63.33% accuracy. This is via my time to shine. Hello. I'll be glad not as accurate Six three point three three percent accuracy the Sun fire Marvel studio spoilers. Yeah, but again That's better than a flip of a coin. It is so yeah, but you know, it's not nothing It's well well, well, I've seen in the comments people are like well, you know my time to shine. Hello had a good run Maybe the initial stuff was good and maybe yeah. Well, that's all you need

You need a few good guesses initially and then all of a sudden you're a scooper. Yeah, we could do that. And again, I don't like their username because it's like now it's my time to spread lies. Hello. Yeah, hello. Anyway, they're saying that James Wan is being looked at to direct Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles The Last Ronin adaptation. That's also currently getting a video game, a third-person

God of War reboot style. Etc. So there might be some spoilers here when we talk about this. Let's spoil it. So it's a comic book, it's a comic book limited series and some spin-offs now, I think. Yeah, there's a bunch of spin-offs. Set in the future of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles universe in which... We covered it at BigSandwich.co. We did, it's true. In which three of the Ninja Turtles have died and there's one left and initially you don't know who it is and it's who's survived and they have to, you know, get revenge on the remnants of the Foot Clan that are now a corporation and blah blah blah. And part of the mystery is who is the last ronin.

Yeah. But we won't say. We will say it now, the spoilers. Time goes below if you're doing a jump ahead it's Michelangelo that's right because he's the party dude and you know I did it and he's kind of and I because he disappeared for like 15 odd years or whatever but he's continued to me that was in his 30s and now he's in his 30s or 40s we should get buckets because we're just vomiting on the floor that's true've been doing that for 10 years.

And our traditional 10 year cleaning is coming up. So once we've done that... I reckon we could probably leave it for another 10 years. So do, yeah. Yeah, once skip and run, it's fine. People are busy over the new years. We don't get the cleaners. We're very busy.

But once we've done that, I reckon we get the buckets, you said. Get the buckets. And he's further evolved and mutated. He the buckets. So, yeah, so, and he's like further of all the mutated, like he's stronger and he's- He's more of a party dude. Yeah, he basically has all the abilities of all of them now, essentially, and they follow him like ghosts and tell him what to do. And you're saying, when you set this, that's what you were saying up top, right? I wasn't saying that.

You were saying like, how does this work in terms of like continuity wise? Well, I'm saying how does it work in the sense of, I mean I guess it's the same with every adaptation it's... A legacy sequel? Yeah, but also how are you going to, it's not going to be a surprise to anyone which Ninja Turtle it is. One, because we've just spoiled it now for people. And two, because you can just look at the original comic and go, you know, will the

marketing be it's a huge reveal of which Ninja Turtle it is? Or are they just going to go, it's the one reveal that of which ninja turtle it is or are they just gonna go? It's the one that's left and that's yeah, that's the deal Do they push the idea of like he maybe maybe in the marketing they reveal who it is and then they push You know, he used to be the party dude and now he's a serious dude Serious dude in his 40s hasn't been and that's relatable to people because people who read the Ninja Turtles and watch the cartoon as kids now They're they're not party dudes anymore. not party dudes except for the ones who are party dudes. Some of them are still party. Some of them. It's not sad. Well, it's just good. Is it? It's good that you can still do it.

What about the day after? How you feel after that? Me specifically. Yeah, you specifically. We're not talking about me. I was talking about you. How do you feel? Because I've seen you afterwards. And? You look great. Thanks, Ben. But seemingly you feel awful. No. And you're dead behind the eyes. That's different. That's unrelated. You were dead behind the eyes the night before as well. Exactly.

So yeah, I see what you're saying. Well, look, here's an example. And we're looking at these next year. In The Winter Soldier, the twist is that it's Bucky. Correct. But you... And you would know that going in if you knew anything about Marvel Comics. I think it's fine. I think the comic works beyond like who it is.

And maybe they could change it. I don't think they will. No, I don't think they will. I think it doesn't work as well. Yeah. Yeah. You could only make it Donatello. You could make it Raphael. No, because he's the loner, whatever guy.

I guess you could... I mean, you could change it from... I know I think you could invert any of them You could go. Okay, it's Raphael and turn them inside out. Yeah, exactly. And then it's not it's the last ronin inside out ninja turtles But you could do you could do rough you could do Raphael's the loner and he's angry or he was and now he has to He has to find his inner peace to party down. It's a baby. Yes to party down exactly or he was and now he has to find his inner peace. Just to party down. Yes, maybe he has to party down. Exactly. Or Leonardo was very stoic and the leader, but now he's got no one to lead. So now he's going to have to find his inner rage or whatever.

Okay. Yeah, you're right. I guess you could. But they won't because why would they change that? No, I think also in the comics, I think there was going to end up being a second to the last Ronan. I think another one of them will have survived. Oh, you think so?

Yeah, that's all kind of vague. I can't remember who specifically, but some of them were like, I don't know, man. Yeah. Okay. Because two of them were shot in the head and one just paper cut his finger. And he's like, oh, I've got to go. I wonder what happened to him. Yeah.

And he fell off a bridge. He did fall off a bridge. Into a river. Yeah. But it was a river of death hole. So he's yeah And he's a turtle man. He's a turtle man. Yeah, I hope this is true James Wan I think is I mean he did have he's done action. He did a good Fast and Furious movie He did the one where a guy died and he still finished it. That's true. So yeah I like his so you're saying even if one or more of the turtles actually die in this. That's what I'm saying. It'll still be fine.

I know I mentioned this earlier, but how do you feel about this being a sequel to like the 1990 original? That would be cool as hell. 1990? It is 1990, isn't it? Something like that. Yeah. I should use the old rotting turtle suits. You know, the what remains of them. You've seen them?

Absolutely. Who's, who's, who's voice? Because I know like Cory Felton is in that. Yeah. Judith Hoag's in it. Judith Hoag's in it. Oh Judith Hoag would be great. Get Elias Cotius back. I mean he, in the comics, I mean you could change this.

Casey Jones is dead. It's fine. Flashbacks, put him back in a denim vest. Bring back Sam Rockwell cause he's in the original Ninja Turtles movie. Bring back the Super Shredder. Well he died. Yeah. Who's voicing Michelangelo here?

I can't see. Oh, Robbie Wriste. Yeah, bring him back. Okay. Or someone who can go, whoa, or more like, whoa, whoa. Well, you did it. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do it.

And he's 60. Sure. Basically 40. So put them back in the suits. Put them all back in the suits. Well, he's the voice and he's the stunt actor. No, but I'm saying, well, put them in the, well, I'm saying put them in the suit for the first time. Okay. To save a bit of money, you put the voice back in the suits. Put them all back in the suit. Well he's the voice and then there's the stunt actor. Well I'm saying put them in the suit for the first time. Okay. To save a bit of money you put the voice actors in the suits. Do you think they're gonna do suits?

I hope they would. If I had to guess and I'm gonna guess. Yeah. Watch me do this. Okay. They're gonna do real practical suits, but they're gonna do like the Deadpool mask where you could you put a little more expression into it. Though animatronics are good enough where you could just do it like they used to do it. I don't want to see Though animatronics are good enough where you could just do it like they used to do it. I don't want to see Like how they've done it in fucking the Michael Bay ones. I don't like that. Maybe that's more aesthetically I don't like it, but I think it'll be a much more interesting throwback if they were practical. So yeah There's also there's been I don't know if you've seen like people have done like concepts for this and whatever like fan films Using Blender and whatever which is a program that makes CGI people.

Interesting. And it looks pretty good. Like you could do it with CGI now and you could get it to look as good. And they've done it with AI. Did they use AI? That's also incredible. Yeah, that's good. Just a guy running around.

See that one? You seen that one this week? No. It's like, we've made a full heist movie and it's just a guy driving in a car and some, he's wearing a suit, then he's wearing a leather jacket and then he's wearing a t-shirt and he's just driving. Because he's in the heist so he's changing his suit then he's wearing a leather jacket and then he's wearing a t-shirt And he's just driving he's in the high so he's changing his yeah Yeah, you do while driving exactly and then he's driving He's just driving and then a bunch of stuffs on fire in the background for no reason

And then he just crashes into a bin and then he gets out and he just runs what's the highest? He already did it. I don't know. It's it's intriguing though, isn't it? I've intrigued you haven't I even with the description and the description is good enough to put into a chat thing in GPT or whatever and build this thing. So it's perfect. Yeah, you're right. And then he's running and the police are running and they're just shooting at him. Does he get away?

No, then he gets there. To where? There. And there's some police. Like a barrier? Yeah, maybe. Just a vague place where he stops. This is very compelling.

It's very compelling, isn't it? And and then the police are there but they're dressed differently They're different place like the previous police had like the pale blue shirt Yeah, but then when it's other police they're all in you run into a different state He must have run into a different by the way, and that's compelling isn't it? It is Yeah, because we didn't see him do that. It's like the heist. What did he say? What does he say? He says one line, but I don't know what it is because I've watched it with sound off because I mean, come on. But it's incredible. But it's like-

Hey man, if you make something like that, you shouldn't put it out. Right? You know? No, you should put it out and be very proud of it. Okay. But here's the thing, like in the future, I'm sure this will get better.

But also- Of course it will. What's that for? Like, what is it? Like you had some questions and I think reasonable questions of like what why is he doing it? What's it for like it's meaningless. It means nothing I don't even if even if they made it so he didn't change his outfit every time Yeah, it was still be sometimes he has a beard. Sometimes it's just a mustache. Sometimes long hair short hair

But even if it was seamless this on Twitter years on Twitter. Yeah, of course, even if it was seamless What's the high? Yeah, what is that? Is it? Yeah, it was on Twitter. Yeah, of course. Even if it was seamless, what's the heist? Yeah, what is it? What is it? Yeah. Why is he doing it? Is it just him? What it looked like, unless it's the guys are switching out, but then it's like, what's

it for? Why does he need to do it? Why do we want him to get away with it or not get away with it? Do we like that? Do we like that? You know? We do. Yeah.

Maybe, maybe the, if there's some AI guys listening. Yeah. And there are. Yeah. I want to know why. If you want to, if you want to make, first of all, don't. Yeah. But if you, if you feel compelled to give me a scene

where I understand why anyone is doing anything. It can't be, I don't know, I can't imagine it would be like creatively fulfilling to make something like that. I don't know. But like that specifically. Well, it seems to be. I mean, I don't know. But like that specifically. Well, it seems to be. I mean, I understand like making the, like using the tools to like enhance a project. You know what I mean?

Like I understand that element of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We use that to add jokes. Yeah, exactly. And like, because... Thank you AI. That was actually real far. Mason really did that.

But... But I call my butt AI. Yeah, but also like AI, they're just saying everything is AI like even things that aren't really Yeah, right, you know, so I don't know man. I hate that way all of that what you said. Thank you You shouldn't have brought it up. I know I did this next one's via my time to shine. Hello Oh famous lawyer says I've got sixty three point three three percent. We know you mentioned that is it dropped in the lot since the last Time you mentioned it. Yeah, it's gotten lower significantly. Better than a flip of a coin though.

Barely. But a lot of the stuff, they front-ended their spot. What an odd sense of deja vu I'm having. But continue. This is Spider-Man 4 news. Not the original Sam Raimi one. This is the Tom Holland one. But it probably will have Tobey Maguire in it.

Probably. Well, there was rumours that it was going to be, they want to make a ground level and Spider-Man's back on the street because that's how the last movie ended. There's rumours. But how are we going to do famous cameos if he's just ground level on the street? He could meet Kraven. There's rumours of a big multiverse movie that Sony wanted to do and they're going to bring back Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire and whatever. It's also, I think think set between Avengers movies.

So I guess if it's a battle world situation, they could just put New York in. New York's in battle world baby. But everyone's still has to go to work. Yeah. And what if there was a heist? What if there was? And there's a guy who's driving a car and he drives in a bin. There's a fire.

There's a fire. Inexplicable fires. The cops are chasing you. Yeah. Yeah and his beard chasing you. Yeah. And his beard keeps changing. Yeah. That'd be good.

Disguises. Yeah, well apparently Tom Holland likes the story but Kevin Feige does not and they are now rewriting it and changing everything. Well. Script isn't ready yet and won't be for a while. That being said this does have a hard release date which could move. What an incredible scoop. Yeah.

It's not ready. It's not ready. And we don't know what it is really. 24th, 26th. And two of the people behind it have differing ideas of what they want it to be. Yes. This is all crazy stuff that you couldn't make up. I agree. Are you also like, unprovable?

Unprovable, yeah. 24th of July, 2026. So this has to film this year, next year. Unless Kevin Feige and or Tom Holland release a joint statement saying, yes, we did recently have discussions and we, you know, differed in our ideas. But we love each other. And there's no way to confirm. But we love each other. We love each other. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, I don't know. I'm sure they are working on it next. Tom Holland's in the Odyssey. He is. Odyssey helicopter cop's legacy origins. I mean, they're going to have to, like, he's probably, like, he's obviously mapped

out his year. He hasn't worked in three years. He hasn't made something in three years. That's true. He's made beer-o. He did make a beer-o. I want to try his beer-o. Not a plug. Because I like a non-alcoholic beer. I enjoy it. No, just in general. Or non-alcoholic Guinness. Sometimes I just drink alcohol though. Sometimes you do. That's true. Straight up. And you don't have a problem?

No. Interesting. People think I'm okay. Mason, this is via Forbes. Okay. And or season two, did you see the budget of this? $400 million, $460 million, something like that. Well, they say that the total spending on Andor is now reached $645 million. That's more. Which presumably includes the first season. Right. This comes up to spending a record $290.9 million on the production of season two. Now this isn't just a lot of money, Mason.

It is. This is not, it's not just that. No, it's true. It's the highest ever annual spending for a Star Wars production throughout the 47 year history of the franchise. Whoa. Higher than the $280.7 million spent on The Last Jedi during its 11 months of production. Oh, we know how that turned out. I know that.

I mean, it made like over a billion dollars, so it did well. Jedi during its 11 months of production. Oh, we know how that turned out. I know. Yeah. I mean, it made like over a billion dollars. So it did well. As well as the 243.8 million spent on The Force Awakens. We know how that turned out. Again, it made like two billion dollars. I know that. It did really well for Disney.

I mean, I don't know what they're doing, but they did make a lot of money. Yeah. I look, I saw the argument made also that this takes away from smaller shows, not just in Star Wars, but just in general what this has like $30 million. Just in general, just like these production budgets just wildly spiralling. But you know, as a last hurrah for Star Wars, because there'll be no more Star Wars after this. I would like this to be finished.

And that's fine, that's perfect. You know, spend all the money you want. Spend all the money and all of the next 10 years Star Wars budget on this show so they can't make any Star Wars for 10 years. At least. And then have a really good idea for Star Wars and then make another Star Wars. I agree. Or make Ahsoka season 2.

Yeah, whatever. Obi-Wan Kenobi season 2. Make an okay thing. Make Obi-Wan Kenobi meets Ahsoka. He could. I mean he has. But again. What if he met her againobi meets Ahsoka. He could. I mean he has. Yeah. But again. What if he met her again?

In a different context. I remember you. Yeah. Yeah, we hung out a lot. We were friends. Yep. This cannot be profitable. No.

As a streaming service. Oh, absolutely not. Like there's no fucking, there's no... Alright, language. I know with things I hate, he's Yes. There's no action figures of this This is for like adults who like Star Wars. Yeah, and that's really it. Like there's not this is like an anti-capitalist Star Wars You know TV series from Disney, but I mean also there, you know

Yeah, there's tie fighters or whatever But also they're banking on the idea that people who don't like Star Wars or don't like Disney or don't like Marvel or whatever sign up for Andor and then just never cancel it for the next 10 years. That's a good point. And then it's covered. Yeah. And that's what's going to happen to us.

Well, they make Andor World at Disney. Andor World. Yeah. Come and get shot in the back. Where you're in a prison. Hope you can swim. Because that's the only way to the gift shop. Surely that would the only way to the gift shop. Surely that would have other ways to the gift shop.

Nope. No? No, it's swim and get a gift or die. Okay. Get a key chain or die. Get a key chain or die. Can I get a BB8 key chain? Yes.

In the Andor universe? Yep. All right, great. They made them then. They made them then, did they? Probably. They made them then, you just didn't see them. I didn't see them, yeah, I guess. Haven't really been looking. Yeah, great.

This is out April 22nd, 2025. Yeah. Very keen on this. 12 episodes. I'm gonna rewatch the set the first season again, again. I've already rewatched it. Do you think Andy Serkis is gonna come back? I think he said he might, yeah.

Flashbacks or for real? I don't know. Turns out I can swim. I can swim the whole time. What did he say he couldn't? I was lying to make you feel better, to inspire you. And this is my real voice. Oh. Inspiring, isn't it?

I don't like it. Interesting. Now I'm on a jet ski. Are you? Yes. Bye. Bye. I'm off to the gift shop. Are you? Brrm, brrm, brrm, brrm, brrm. I didn't know, you can get gifts, you can get jet skis and Star Wars and all that? Yes!

We call them jet ski speeders. Do they hover? No! Oh, because that's pretty good. Anyway, yeah. It is pretty good. Shut up! Pretty good. I will! Go! I'm going. I'll do a quick, do a quick. You just said vroom. You didn't. I know. I was, it's a preview for what I'm going to do. You're holding up the line, man. There's a lot of those.

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You think so? I think so. Some sort of time loop? I don't know about that. I think just like a Monday-y kind of thing, you know? I know. You know, you're doing the same thing again and again. Not me. I'm...

Really? I'm filled with thrills every week. You cry all the time. Yeah, because I'm thrilled. Hashtag filled with thrills. Filled with thrills, no thrills. Now, I want to shout out Colleagues. That's right, our friend Rob Collings.

Who compiles this every year. Yeah. And plus the results. That's right. our friend Rob Collings. Who compiles this every year. Yeah. And plus the results. That's right. It's no mean feat Mason. Absolutely. It's a small feat I should say. It helps us, it helps remind us what we actually watched and saw this year and what even came out this year. Yes, exactly. That of Webb this year. Yeah. Craven this year. We should have also. Argyle. This goddamn year. I should have also mentioned it because it did go out a week before I mentioned it on the podcast. So that is my fault. There are still 4,000 votes and we are of course recording a little bit early.

That's more than we have listeners. Where did the votes come from? I don't actually know. Well here's the thing. You think this is a scam? Collington said the survey did make it to the Transformers Twitter so that might have some influence on a couple of categories. We bless them, we forgive them.

Best hair, Optimus Prime. He doesn't even have any hair. I don't like this. So yeah, he's just doing incredible work. I agree. We literally couldn't do it without him. Oh, we would, but it would be worse. Oh yeah, no, much worse.

I mean, we'll do it. Yeah, barely competent. We'll do it. Yeah. Yuck. So yeah, and he's also sent a list of very detailed results. So if you need anything more specifically. Percentage wise.

I can let you know. Terrific. Yeah. Alright, so what are we going to start with, Mason? We're going to open with best comic book movie. Yeah, man. And here's, we're going to reminisce, James. Say it like this.

The list of nominees are. I'm going to direct you through this. Okay. Because we want to make it good and you won't make it good unless I tell you how to make it good. The list of... Now like this. The list of nominees are. The last this, the list of nominees are.

The last of the nominees are. Oh no. The Crow, Deadpool and Wolverine. I can't keep up this energy. Hellboy the Crooked Man. Yep. Joker Folly Adir. Justice League Crisis on Infinite Earths, part one to three.

They released all three. Yeah. Jesus. Craven the Hunter. Yeah. Madam Web. Venven the Hunter. Yeah. Madame Web. Venom the Last Dance. Watchmen Chapter 1 and 2. Or other. I um, the only one of these I have, I haven't seen the animated stuff so that's Watchmen or Justice League.

Are we missing a Spum? No, Venom, Craven and uh... Just the three. Madame Web. Okay. Is that enough for you? Is there not a fourth one? No, there was only three.

What would the fourth one possibly be? Rhino legacy origins. No, that's not out yet. Yeah, that's gonna be the next one. Yeah, but he goes to get his rhino back Yeah, it's a break. Well, obviously he gets stuck in a lift on the way to my miles Warren's office. I gotta say man grim fucking years My god highlights for me of the of these I didn't mind Hellboy. There might be other, but I can't remember other. I liked Hellboy the Crooked Man a lot. I don't know if people haven't seen that one. I liked it too. It's you know small scale and that's what you know, they can't all be 200 plus 300 million dollar blockbusters. I can't believe I'm saying this.

Joker is the two, is the third best comic book movie for me. What's the second best? Crave of the Hunter? Hellboy. Oh, what's the first best? Deadpool and Wolverine. Interesting. Which again I didn't even love but it's head and shoulders over everything else here. Yeah. Anti-dandruff shampoo over everything else. That's what I like to think. Yeah. Where are you at? What's your favorite of the year? I think it might be Hellboy the Crooked Man. Really? I'm saying it. Okay. Why is that surprising to you? I don't know. Yeah. But what do the people think? It's irrelevant what we think. Well let's check it out because Deadpool and Wolverine won the vote with 77.7%. Like Joker Follier do, it doesn't matter what we think. It's what the people think.

Coming second was Madame Web with 4.4. I think that's a joke one. I think that's a joke one as well. And then third is Hellboy the Crook Blank with 3.6. So that was a huge sweep for Deadpool and Wolverine. Yeah. I mean it was the only... I agree with you on6 and then Van the Last Dance. That was a huge sweep for Deadpool and Wolverine. Yeah. I mean, it was the only... I mean, I agree with you on Howlboy. Like, I did enjoy it. Like, you liked The Crow.

I did like The Crow. So what do you say to that? I didn't like it. Would you put The Crow above Joker? To follow you? Do you? Croaker? Yeah.

What if The Crow was The Joker? Charlie Croaker. Italian job. Okay. Uh, okay. Yeah, it is okay. Uh, is the crow better? The Joker? No. But again, not my money. I didn't I mean, Joker's, you know, as this as some sort of social as some sort of multi hundred million dollar social experiment. Yeah. Good. Good work. Good work, everyone. I agree. Todd Phillips. It was funny how it didn't do well. And it also hated everybody who liked the first one. That's experiment. Yeah. Good. Good work. Good work everyone. I agree. Todd Phillips. It was funny how it didn't do well and it also hated everybody who liked the first one. That's right. Yeah. What's next Mason?

Next is best comic book series. Damn. Agatha Roll Along. Yep. Batman Cape Crusader. Which one's that? Oh the new animated one. Yeah.

I didn't watch that. Did you? Not at all. I watched like 30 seconds then went I'll get to this and then I didn't come back to I watched the first I was really excited for yeah, it's okay. All right The boy season 4 okay creature commandos still going so I didn't watch it. Kite man. Hell. Yeah Haven't watched it hit monkey season 2 haven't watched it invincible season 2 watched it the penguins watched it Superman and Lois season 4 behind but I wouldn't be surprised if it did well X-Men 97 liked it a lot other other. I mean for me. It's the penguin

Yes, it is the pay stand out to me the penguin Agatha all along X-Men 97 yeah, and I'm enjoying creature commandos, but it's it's not finished. I liked echo That did come out a long time ago, but I think it action-wise it never really reached the heights of the opening sequence where she fights Daredevil. Daredevil. Daredevil. And they were like well we can't give her the taskmaster power she has in the comic book so let's give her vague powers related to her ancestors. Yeah good. Felt like a kind of a cop out. What kind of powers has she got? Derevike, she glows a bit and then she's strong.

She got a strong hand? Yeah, she's got a strong hand. Yeah, nice. Like her ancestors. Yeah. Kyah! They all had strong hands. They did, it's true.

Cool, let's see what the people think. I think of, yeah, hmm. I'll tell you what though, better year for this than there was movies. That's true actually, yeah. So the winner at 33%. Is it The Penguin? It's The Penguin, that's right. How did you know?

Because it's the best one this% is the Penguin. It's the Penguin, that's right. How did you know? Because it's the best one. Yeah, it is. And then followed by X-Men 97 and then invincible at third and then Agatha. So yeah, that makes sense to me. Now if somebody could go to Colin Farrell and show your phone to him while he's in the Penguin suit and get him to accept the award in his regular voice. That'd be great. That'd be great.

Have you seen that behind the scenes? No, where is it? There's a behind the scenes clip, I think it's they're just wrapped filming and he's in the penguin suit and he's like, I'd just like to thank you all for... It's been a real pleasure, you know? But he's in the penguin... God, that sounds like it would break my brain. Yeah, it's weird.

It's so weird. The universe didn't collapse when he did that. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Oh, here we go Here's an award for the best of Spomb. Good year. I think for comic book shows Spomb this year produced Craven the Hunter. Yep. Madame Web and Venom the Last Dance. Now some people this might be their first episode for some reason What is Spomb? It's the Sony Pictures universe of Marvel movies. And what are they up to?

What they're up to is that in the 90s, they acquired the rights to a Spider-Man and all related Spider-Man characters. Yeah, they traded like a Toyota Turago or something for it, didn't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's four wheel drive, but the four wheel drive bit doesn't work. So it's really just rear wheel drive. Okay, one wheel. It's one wheel drive.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what you do is you put an oar out on the other side, then you sort of drag it along. And of course, as the deal made in perpetuity as Marvel liked to do back in the day, even characters that weren't invented yet, but they get them all. Well, that is true because they own anything within the Spider-Man universe that gets invented. Yeah, yeah. Spider-Man adjust. And regardless of, and if they just keep making these movies, they get to keep the license.

So they're just making these and tough call, I think this one. Has there been any Spider-Man characters that have been introduced of light, like villains that are compelling, but that were introduced in the comics or have they stopped or they stopped to do Paul? Yeah. Paul. Or have they stopped doing that and like introducing them in other comics So Marvel properly owns them. Oh

I'm saying that's a great. That's a great question. There'd be an answer to that, but I don't know did you know this? I learned this recently. I watched a video about it. So People might know there's a mark. There's a there's a there's a tertiary Marvel character. This is unrelated to in this There's a tertiary Marvel character called death's Head. He's a robot bounty hunter from the future. But he was introduced in the British Transformers series because they needed because the British Transformers series did a series set after Transformers the movie in the future and they needed like a robot bounty hunter that was not loyal to the Autobots and the Sepikons. So they created this new character and he since met Doctor Who and the you know, the the rest of the mob

We still have Sylvester McCoy yuck. Yeah, I know go on. He's not one of the new ones is he no he's not is the seventh one Yeah, yeah, right, but he's got a dumb hat Yeah but the the law of it was that if you if you create a character for the Transformers comics Hasbro owns it. So the plan was to introduce it in a different comic book. So they did a one page Dead Said comic, they put it in a different Marvel UK comic book.

And so as a result, Hasbro doesn't own it. But I saw a video, somebody did a deep dive on it and that one page comic book came out after he was introduced in the Transformers comic book. And so they just, they've just lied about it for 30 years. There's no, there's no, so they might've had the intention of getting that out before, but they didn't. Yeah. That's interesting. So there's no, they've just lied about it. So I don't know what's going to emerge from that. Maybe, I don't know. I feel like Marvel or Disney wouldn't let that happen now. No, they wouldn't. Absolutely not.

Yeah. That's very interesting. Anyway, best of Spum. Oh, best of Spum. Sorry, we're avoiding the best of Spum. I mean, it's Venom 3. Is it? The best one.

Of the year. Of the... What have you enjoyed the most though? I don't think Venom, The Last Dance, was very enjoyable. You know what? I don't think we got that much conversation out of it. So I guess in that aspect, Madame Webb was the strangest and Craven was just kind of shitty. And I didn't. But I just saw Craven. So maybe going back to it and figuring, like what I like about these movies is figuring out how they've put these together

Absolutely, like you can see that's the seams in these movies bearing in mind Madam Webb had a mysterious can of Pepsi. Yeah, I've got a floating blue screen can of Pepsi We have done. I don't know. Yeah, did they did they have to replace the modern can of Pepsi with the I think that's what it is. Pepsi. But it could be a licensing thing. But why would they bother? But then the evil Spider-Man was crushed by a big Pepsi sign at the end. That's true. So I'm thinking they had to make it a more modern Pepsi.

I'm thinking for that alone it's got to be Madame Weir. Alright, I agree. And just all the behind the scenes stuff like people being tricked into it, but also some people took the job so they could get leverage over Sony for something else. It's pretty funny. It's funny. It's just... Not intentionally. No, just the fact that we don't know what year it's supposed to be set in.

I don't think anybody knows. I think the best movie is clearly Venom 3. Like if you were just like, what's the best of these movies? I don't even think that's true at all. Really? I don't think that's true at all. Okay. I mean, Tom Hardy, like, remember that A Big Acid Machine? Yeah, of course I do.

But A Big Acid Machine does not a wonderful movie make. That's Shakespeare. That's right there. That's a Shakespeare quote. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. That's a classic quote from Shakespeare.

Let's see what the people say. Well, we're both saying... I'm saying Madame Webber's the best. The one that brought me the most joy and bewilderment. Well, the people are saying Venom the Last Dance at 47%. Followed by Madam Webber 31%, followed by Craven the Hunter. I mean, that's a big defeat for Craven the Hunter because it doesn't even have recency bias. Like my initial thought there was like, well, Craven, all right, Summer was pretty

all right. But then I'm like, no, it's just because I saw it the last. Yeah, exactly. You remember it. This is interesting though, because there's other results, because fourth is Morbius and then the next one is Nunn. And then the next- So when did Morbius come out? That came out last year. Last year. No, 22, I think. And then, so it was Morbius. And then under Morbius is just a blank. Oh, just nothing.

Just blank. Some people figured out how to vote nothing. Blank got like 0.5%. That's not bad. The next one down is, just says no, and that got less than a percent. That's not bad. The next one down is just says no and That got less than a percent and then it's El Muerto which I presumably is your script. That's exactly right. That's a good one I mean look, I think we should put our foot down here We shouldn't be we shouldn't allow no because then people will it'll be can't say no. Next year will be all no Yeah, every category will be like actually no. No, it's stupid what you've said. Yeah. All right.

What are we doing next? Okay. Next is best hair or wig. Hell yeah. Very important. Last year, of course, Shea Wiggum from Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning won. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. All right. Wow. I'm so... Great name, appropriate. What do they call that? Nominative determinism. Why wouldn't he have a great head of wig?

I think it was just his hair. It was his hair, but it looked good for a man of that age. They should have called him Shea Hegham. Shaved Hegham. Shaved Hegham. Alright yeah okay. And also you know in a franchise where he's competing with Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise's hair is losing it. He's gone places I don't like. It wasn't good in Dead Reckoning I'll grant you that. It's not gonna be good in the next one. I think shaved Hegham went to his barber and went I gotta compete compete have you seen yeah movies I gotta get is what I'm up against and he did it. Yep. Anyway, here's the nominees Aaron Taylor Johnson and Craven the hunter

Yeah, it's just long. It's not bad. It's fine Jonathan Bailey and wicked good good work. It's a wig too, but it's good Kenji Noda who is in Godzilla minus one and Godzilla minus one minus color so minus one came out last year but minus one minus color came out well the preview image here is in black and white that's what i'm saying okay and that's that's a good here he's the uh he's one of the uh he's one of the the uh the scientists one of the scientists he wants to take down a Godzilla uh Li Zhongjie from the acolyte yeah it's all Yeah it's alright. This I feel like is a sneak but that's fine. Magneto from X-Men 97. You're saying because it's a cartoon.

Because it's a cartoon. Interesting. I don't know if... I think also like just comparing it to his previous hair. I like it. Yeah. Queen Charlotte from Bridgerton Season 3. It's a big sort of beehive situation.

Yeah, no I can see it. I've got it in front of me, Mason. Ryan Gosling in the Fall Guy. It's interesting we can't double nominate because I think Aaron Taylor Johnson in the Fall Guy would also be. I think it's pretty much similar. And then Timothy Chalamet in June Part 2. I mean, that's good.

That's good. I mean, that's just his hair. I wouldn't say this is an incredible lineup this year. What would you say though? Nothing jumps out as the immediate winner. That's what I'm saying. I mean I would probably go with Timothy Chalamet. Yeah.

That's good. He's pretty consistent. Yeah. He's got a new haircut. He's filming a movie called Marty Supreme. Yeah. And he's got kind of an old timey. A little mustache. 1950s haircut.

Yeah. I think if you were going to go like, you wouldn't pick Aaron Taylor Johnson because I feel like Chalamet is doing a better version of that. He is, it's true, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to rule out Jonathan Bailey's because it's a wig. Even though I do like it. I know, even though this category is best hair and wig.

Yeah. Wow. Wow. I'm going to rule out a cartoon. You know, you know for sure it's a wig? Yeah, it is. Look at it. And I'm going to say, which would, I'm going to rule out Magneto because it's a wig? Yeah it is, look at it. And I'm gonna say, I'm gonna rule out Magneto because it's a cartoon.

And Queen Charlotte because presumably that is a wig. You would hope so wouldn't you? It would have to be. I mean Gosling did this hair already. He did it as Ken. So I don't know whether... It's not, well I guess Timothée Chalamet also did his hair in his real life. That's a good point.

Li Jung-jae I just don't like very, I don't, no, I don't not like it. I just don't think it's very interesting. No. It's just that Qui-Gon Jinn kind of bit shorter but long Jedi hair. This is, yeah. Kenji Noda is interesting. Yeah. I think I am going to give it to Charlemagne though. I think I'm giving it to Charlemagne. It's a hard one to do in the desert. You know what, it's hard, I'm, look we're giving it to Charlemagne but I think this is a lifetime achievement award. Okay. Know what I mean?

Yeah. He hasn't, you know, I'm excited to see what he does next after Marty Supreme. Let's take a look. I think it'd probably be back to this. What's Marty Supreme about? I think it's a, is it about a musician or something? Maybe. He just did one of those.

That's true. Marty Monster. Interesting. He's playing Marty Monster. It's an upcoming American sports drama film blah blah blah Oh, it's a safety brother. It's a Josh safety film. Mm-hmm films blah blah blah. It's an upcoming sports drama Yeah, it's a sports drama camera Okay based on Marty Reisman's life set in the world of 1950s ping-pong culture. Oh

All right, then Interesting. Okay. I'm gonna give it to Chalamet. You got it. Chalamet. Let's see what the people say. Run it. Somebody run up to Chalamet and say you won best hair wig. Yeah. I mean, he went to that Chalamet competition, didn't he? It's true. He did.

It's true. Now, of course, this is the big one. Worst hair wig. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We haven't said what the people say. Sorry. Sorry. I thought you were.

The people are telling me that Magneto wins with 24% of the vote. You were telling me earlier, you don't care what the people think. You were saying that. So I was just following your lead. I don't. Okay, great. I'm being a fake populist. Nice.

Magneto one, 24%. Okay. Run up Kenji Noda from Godzilla with 20%. Listeners also suggested some great hair in Agatha all along challenges Furiosa, Hitman and Love Lies Bleeding. I haven't seen Love Lies Bleeding, but I would agree with the rest of those. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, interesting.

Things happening in the world. Very true. Let's go, Mason. Glenn Powell's had a good like hair glow up, I think. You think so? It's like early on you're like, that hair's not anything. You hate Glenn Powell. No, I like him.

You said he's not a real movie star. I didn't say that. You said you want to fight him. I said- You said his torso's too long and his legs are too short. I said all of those things. I just wanted his attention. I was hoping one of those-

You said his face is slightly too small for his head. You said that. I was hoping one of those faces slightly too small for his head head. You said that I did say that Yeah That's did you say about him I said all of that but louder I said it twice once and then he was like what because I Was near him and he said sorry. I'm gonna say something and then I said it all out Yeah, no, he said did somebody say some of my face. I ran away. Okay. Anyway worst hair or wig Mm-hmm. Of course every year Hawkeye's haircut from Avengers Endgame is one. Yeah, but here we go Emma Midsunder in Avatar the last airbender. Yeah, be sort of a beehive, but it's like a jewel. It's from the

Your favorite Bill Skarsgård in the crow was a young people's haircut. You know, you hate that because it's a young people's haircut. I fucking hate that haircut. You hate that movie because it's young people with... They're not young. They're like three years younger than me. Well, they've still got so much more life to live than you. Bullshit. They've just done more heroin. Uh, I mean not that much more. Uh, Cate Blanchett in Borderlands.

She's of course swoopy redheaded lady. I mean it's alright. Yeah? It's not like offensive, right? Yeah It Harrison love lies bleeding. He's got a kind of bald top-of-the-head mullet situation Yeah real long it screen of course in rebel moon part two He's got the he's got the Bill Skarsgård young people haircut without the mullet in the back. It's fine I think for like a space Nazi that works. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Henry Cavill doubling up here because he's in Argyle as two different characters.

He's got that weird flat top look. Yeah. Which is thoroughly unpleasant to look at. And then he's also at the end. He's got a mullet. He's some other guy. I'm just laughing because the first picture of Henry Cavill is me. Jason Momoa in the Minecraft trailer.

He's got a kind of an atrocious. He's got a kind of Farrah Fawcett mullet situation going on. Joseph Quinn in Gladiator 2. He's got of course the Emperor... Yep. Syphilis. And you know he's got Syphilis under that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nathan Fillion.

From The Rookie. Yes, of course. But in this he's in the Superman trailer as Guy Gardner. Yep. That's atrocious as well. Yep. I mean it's also supposed to be atrocious. Yeah, yeah. Shia LaBeouf. Various haircuts and styles. Yeah. Erac it's also supposed to be atrocious. Yeah, yeah. Shayla Buff various haircuts and styles

Yeah, Agalopolis awful. He did have haircuts. And then Hawkeye again from Avengers Endgame. That's a bad haircut. Yeah Yeah, well, there's a lot to- God I don't even know where to start with this. Worst one. Let's rule out some. Let's rule out some I'm gonna rule out Amber Midthunder. Yeah, I mean that's you know Presumably she looks like she does in the animated series. Yeah, I guess. I'm gonna rule out Bill Skarsgard. Yeah, cuz I mean Yeah, he's looking pretty cool. I don't know. Yeah, it's fine. Imagine he's an actual young person.

I won't. That'd be a cool haircut. Uh, Cate Blanchett, I'm going to rule out. I think it's fine. Uh-huh. I think the problem with that movie is not any of the haircuts. Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. Ed Harris, love lies bleeding.

I love what he's doing with it. Yep. So I'm going to leave that. Uh-huh. Ed Skrind, space Nazi, space Romans, whatever. It's not, I mean, if you saw that on a guy, you'd be like, yeah, he's a guy. Yeah, he's a guy. He's a guy on the street.

Now, this is where it gets interesting because Argyle knows an intentionally silly haircut. Yeah, but it's supposed to be cool. Is it? I don't know. Yeah, because that's how she pictures the spy, Henry Argyle, whatever his name is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just, and I guess it's supposed to be like a hyper reality, but it is, it's a bad look. Right.

But it- Why would anybody think this was a cool haircut? Is that what they're thinking though? Well, isn't he supposed to be super charismatic? Or is he super charismatic despite the haircut? I don't know. No, but surely not. The mullet he wears. It's just some weird choices.

I don't understand. Yeah, that's what it is. I think the- I don't understand why he's supposed, like- I think we may have found the Winner, Mason. Yeah, well, I think we found them. I think that's fairly true. But I don't understand why,

surely the costume designers would be like, he's supposed to be cool in a James Bond way, but James Bond wouldn't look like this. No. Fascinating. I think his mullet is fine at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously Nathan Fillion's hair is supposed to look like that. Yep. Joseph, that's fine. That's Emperor hair. Fine. I think the Jason Momoa Minecraft thing, I think we'll come back to that next year. I hated all the Shia LaBeouf stuff, but that also might be because I don't like him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, crook. Yeah. I think I am going to go with the Argyle one. But it's the first one, not the mullet one. No, no, no, no, no. I think he looks a lot better with the mullet. Yeah, I agree. Yeah.

That's good. Do you want to know who the winner is? Yes. The people's decided that Hawkeye wins again with 30% of the votes. Well, I mean, we can't deny the will of the people, can we? What it is. What are we, a couple of syphilitic emperors? Good point.

Henry Cavill, Argyle came in second at 20%. So there you go, we're on the right track. Nathan Feeley's haircut in the Superman trailer was a late entry and got 6% in just a few days. Now that's interesting. That is interesting. That is interesting. I think he's going to, like I said, I think he's going to get a new haircut by the end

of that. It's going to still a new haircut by the end of that. It's going to still be bad, but not as bad. Yeah, okay. Here's an award. Interesting. Is this new? This new for this year? Best Transformation. A new award for some great makeup and prosthetics. Okay, I don't know this. So we've got Austin Butler from Dune Part Deer. Oh yeah, he was a big sperm man.

He was a big sperm man, but normally he's not a big sperm man. I've never seen him be sperm in real life. Yeah, Colin Farrell in The Penguin. God, that is good. Yeah, yeah, a big sperm man. He was a big sperm man, but normally he's not a big sperm man. I've never seen him be sperm in real life. Colin Farrell in The Penguin. God, that is good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris Hemsworth in Furiosa. Yeah, Nose and Teeth. Demi Moore in The Substance.

Yep. Good one. Jack Casey, who's Hellboy in Hellboy the Crooked Man. I like it, but we have seen it. Nicolas Cage in Long Legs. Does have long legs. These are some good options. Sebastian Stan in A Different Man. That is incredible. I have not seen that movie Cage in Long Legs. Does have long legs. These are some good options. Sebastian Stan in A Different Man. That is incredible.

I've not seen that movie, but that is phenomenal. Derek Arnold as Kiadi Mundi in what? What is he? The Aquiline. Star Wars something. Okay, right, great. Stellan Skarsgård in Dune Part Dieu. Very good.

But that was sort of this, not new for, because he was in Dune Part. Oh yeah, that's true. Not Dune Part 1. And then Walton Goggins is the ghoul in Fallout. Yeah, God, this is a, this is a... I'm gonna say it has to be Colin Farrell, right? But he was also in the Batman Power One. But does that rule him out?

I kinda think it does. You're out, Farrell! Yeah, sorry. I mean, look, and look, he did suffer through it for however many months it took to film the penguins. Well, I suffered through watching it. Got him. Yeah, nice. No, it was really good. It was a good show.

I think it's got a bit... Well, that rules out Kiari Mundi then. Yeah, good. And that, like you said... Good. You just have got a weird head. It's fine. Yeah, whatever. I'm not thrilled by it. I don't know. I mean, the substance was good.

Yeah. It was pretty good. But also, I don't like looking at it, which I think says something, right? Sounds, doesn't it? Yeah. I don't like looking at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty upsetting. And it's not that different from something, right? Doesn't it? I don't like looking at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty upsetting.

And it's not that different from real to me more, you know what I mean? Famously beautiful woman. Yeah, I thought that was just a picture from her Instagram of her. Yeah, I think that's her, yeah. Hemsworth, I mean, it's a good, we're not just talking physical transformation, we're talking like character transformation. Yeah. A chance to kind of spread his wings and do something a little different from Thor by

being a guy who looks quite a lot like Thor. Yeah, but he's got a nose and wings and do a little something a little different from Thor by being a guy Who looks quite a lot like Thor? Yeah, but he's got a nose and teeth. He doesn't know he talks like this or whatever That's right. Um, long legs is good. Hey boys. Good. Hey boys. It's me. Um Lord Furiosa. Yeah, I'm mad max. That's right. Um Long legs is good Okay, see fine looks I mean it works. I don't know what he looks like in real life. No, he doesn't look like that.

Okay, great. So yeah, long legs is good. I think also the performance adds so much to that as well, where as you don't... It's hard to see Nicolas Cage in that one. That's so true. And same with Sebastian Stan in A Different Man, a movie I have not seen. I'm going to go with Demi Moore in The Substance. I think she's doing some freaky stuff and that's a lot of fun.

Yeah, you're right. It probably is that. Let's see what the people say. Let's see what the people say. They say Colin Farrell and the Penguin were 54% followed up by Demi Moore with 13%. Interesting, interesting. They forgot that he was in the Batman part one. Yeah, I know, right?

Listeners also suggested D16's transformation into Megatron. Get out of our votes, fucking Twitter fucking Transformers. You're fucking this up. What about when a little one transformed into a little car? Yeah, we know. Yeah, that was a great transformation. Really blew my bloody socks off. It transformed my socks from socks that were on my feet to socks that were off my feet. So maybe that should win, Transformers guys.

Well, I'm also going to say this to Transformers guys on Twitter. You've got to get you fucking fandom up You should have won this. Yeah, if this is you know, if you're gonna if you're gonna infiltrate and vote That's right. You gotta get across it right again next year. I hope all the winners are just like best hair Jonathan Bailey transformed his hair with a wig, you know If you're not if you're not crushing all like categories get out of here. We don't know what you're doing But also please don't do that. No, leave us alone. Leave us. Yeah. Well, so you're never getting a sequel to Transformers 1. It's not gonna happen I'm sorry. I liked it

My son would love it. But hasbro, I'm not paying for them anymore. You're not paying for them anymore. Yeah. Oh, here we go If this is your fault for Michael Bay making all those bad movies. That's right. That's your fault Transformers fandom. Yeah, and we had to watch them too. It wasn't just you. Yeah, we watched them like ten times. I hated every second of that. Remember when we looked at them again and again and again? Yes! It fucking shattered me. I'm still not okay.

Transformers 1 isn't even that interesting to watch again. No. We're not going to cover it on Caraman and Garbage. It's fine, it's pretty fun, you know? But there's no scene that's just the office, but it's hot ladies and nerds. And it's not funny. And it's not funny. Let's hire a bunch of really funny guys and have them not do anything funny. Great. Good work, Michael Bay, you idiots. And this is your fault, Transformers fandom.

You should have stopped that. You should have. But you didn't. We've been saying that for years. You were cowards. Every time one of these came out. We were like this fucking suck You should have stopped this transformers fandom, but you didn't you were there at your troughs slopping away like little piggies I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm now your movies are bombing. Yeah, you did it Is your fault transformers fandom? Oh? Wait for the GI Joe transformers movie. It's too late. Yeah, it's gonna bomb. That's right It's just gonna be that warehouse. It's gonna bomb. That's right. It's just gonna be that warehouse.

They're gonna say, use your imaginations. Imagine a really cool thing's happening. Imagine Destro's teaming up with- Imagine he is. With Thundercracker or whatever. Yep, that's right. Destro's in Thundercracker and they're flying around. He's inside of him.

They're going around. Yeah. God. Grow up. Grow up. Hey, here's a good segue. Is it? Yeah, because this is the award for the most normal man of the year. Okay. Who's been the most normal this year? Just a normal man doing normal things. Is this new for this year? No, I think we've done it before. Okay, here's a few. There are a lot of options of normal men. We can include

women but that... It's never... It's never, it's always's always you know they're always outstripped by the men being normal. Yeah let's try and squeak some normal women in next year. Yeah okay but this year David Zaslav. Should we explain a few of these? Yeah yeah yeah, head of Warner Brothers, he's getting a lot of he's getting a lot of normal bonuses. Yeah. Doing normal stuff like. Stripping the company for parts. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Dwayne Johnson's very normal, he's had some normal behavior on set. He's got good verticals. He's got such good verticals and that's normal I think. Donald Trump is gonna be the president. Yeah we get it. Yeah it's normal, that's normal, he's normal isn't he? Elon Musk is also normal. Again same shit. Yeah. I guess he's sort of

the president now or whatever. I guess. But you know what would be better for him? One real friend. Jerry Seinfeld's normal except for that creep stuff he's done his entire life. And he made Unfrosted this year. He made that Pop-Tart movie which everybody loves. Jerry Seinfeld had an absolute banger of a fucking year for being a normal bloke. Because he dated that 17 year old when he was 39 or whatever. That happened. And then this year he came out and said that you can't say anything more and Wokeness is

killing comedy which he then reversed and then he released one of the least funny movies ever made that said nothing Marbles variant it was about serial nuclear arms race or whatever Fucking atrocious wants to cancel frosted. They want they only want wheat. Yeah, eat a big bowl of wheat Yeah, man, why can't what a spectacularly uninteresting man? No, just like his takes on anything. You know what I mean? Sure. Just like, oh man, we don't have opinions. But it's like, but you don't. Your opinions are like what fucking sneakers you find comfortable. Anyway, sorry, go on. Uh, Joaquin Phoenix this year? I wouldn't even know. He didn't do that much abnormal stuff. He was in Joker 2. It's not his fault.

Yeah, that's true. He also quit out of a movie like two weeks before it before it was a new and the whole production fell apart So that's pretty normal. Yeah Joe Rogan same shit. I mean Joe Joe Rogan in about I mean he been doing this Oh interesting sounds normal and real I believe it. I mean, it's completely opposite of what I heard yesterday Yeah, and I've got a guy in the room telling me that didn't happen, but I don't believe that I believe it Yeah, Matthew the twisted mind of Matthew Vaughn obviously now. He doesn't compete. I made my mate our guy Yeah, there's none any other freaky stuff. I don't think so. Mr. Beast. Oh incredible year for mr. Beast

Getting cancelled for stuff. Yeah making an Amazon Prime series. Yeah getting done for crypto scams making food that rots Yeah, but that cheese moldy cheese in it. So that's a good one. Oh Robert F. Kennedy, Jr I mean, this is kind of a he should be in charge of health because he's got muscles and he got he got all those people Killed in Africa or whatever. Oh, yeah, he did something. Yeah, something to do with um, what was it? Yes, he did gave everybody the some sort of virus. Yeah, he's awful. Gave everybody the hanta virus or something. Yep. And you know, he killed that lion or whatever. Yep.

Bear. Do you think, because he's married to Larry David's wife in Curb Your Enthusiasm. What's her name again? Cheryl something? Cheryl something. Yep. Do you think she's ever, do you think she ever went into the writer's room at Curb Your Enthusiasm?

Cheryl Hines. Cheryl Hines, thank you. There is no writers room for that, but go on. Oh, because it's all improv. She went to Larry David and went, what about a story in which Larry David was driving out from a gig or from a friend's house or whatever out in the woods. Down the woods. And then he hit a bear in his car, like a baby bear. And then he put the baby bear in the trunk of his car.

Did he hit the car? Did he hit the bear? Was the bear already dead? I think he hit the bear. Okay, I don't know if he did. And then he put the bear in the trunk of the car. Larry puts the bear in the trunk of the car. I like that. And then he drives around with it for a few days and then somebody wants to borrow his

car. Yeah. And so he doesn't know what to do. Yeah. And then so eventually he dumps the bear in Central Park. And then there's a news story about a mysterious dead bear that appeared in Central Park. And then everybody's like, what is happening? And Larry Davis is like, I don't know.

And Larry Davis is like, why would that happen to Larry or anyone? That's insane what you've suggested, Cheryl. From what twisted mind did this come from? Great question. Anyway, Robert F Kennedy Jr. is normal. Yeah. Ryan Reynolds, he's not. He's alright.

He's just out there. Yeah, he's just a guy. Just promoting stuff, looking for validation. I think he wants to be one of these guys. No, he can't be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he has empathy as well, which I think rules him out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Quinn Anton Tarantino? What did he do this year? Probably some crook stuff. Cancelled a movie. Remember he was going to do a movie and then he cancelled the movie. Oh yeah, okay. Wrote a book probably, went on some podcasts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. And Zachary Levi, a boy who was a man. He became a man. He's got a new movie coming out I think about, he's friends with a kid with autism or something. And he's like, hey, get over it. Get over it. Why don't you ride a bike?

That's perfect. And then you're going to know. Looks good. Oh God. I mean, for me, I think it's Seinfeld or Mr. Beast. Cause Jerry Seinfeld was quiet for a while. Yeah. I think he'd probably be quiet for a bit longer after this. Yeah.

And I think we've had a rare explosion in Jerry Seinfeld. I feel like Dwayne the Rock Johnson's year was last year, maybe. I think he doesn't have to. I think we gave it to ZazLab as far as I know. Yeah, I know, but I think what I'm saying his year I think the yeah the most his weirdest stuff is behind him yeah like the Black Adam stuff yeah which wasn't even last year yeah yeah yeah but I hear what you're saying yeah yeah uh he did have a pissing in Bottle's year yeah that was all revealed yeah yeah yeah yeah Zazlab's year I think was last year as well yeah he's just doing the same shit same stuff yeah uh

Zaslav's year I think was last year as well. Yeah, he's just doing the same shit. Same stuff, yeah. I just think it was a big Mr. Beast year. Yeah. I think he had a real rollercoaster. It's been a big Robert F. Kennedy year. True, but he's not an entertainment fella. I mean, he's entertaining.

Sure, I guess. And he killed all those people. He killed all those people. And that's entertaining, I guess. That's a form of entertainment. Okay, I think it is Mr. Beast. Yeah. You know, he's out there.

Lunchablesables Logan Paul I'm on a subway for a hundred minutes and everybody has to touch this car. Yeah, all my friends are psychopaths Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's good. Yeah Mmm, and I'm interested to see what he does next. Yeah, such prime Mr. Beast's show doing well. No, let's check. Yeah, one of her translates to As opposed to just turning on YouTube and going what's on like actually seeking it out on something else. Horrifying game show blasted by viewers as a sadistic working

class torture porn. Mr. Beast responds to negative Mr. Beast games reviews. Blah blah blah. Oh, Diogen gave it a two and said it's no squid game. Wow. Mr. Beast claims games is number one on Prime Video in over 50 countries. I don't think it's on my main page anymore. Interesting. Guardians calls it one of the most undignified spectacles ever shown on TV. That's all fine, but like what did it do? This is sort of breaching containment because it's going from people who only watch YouTube

to people who only review TV shows and movies.. So you don't look at YouTube stuff generally. Generally when they, and this has happened a few times, when they bring people over to like YouTube and then they give them like a TV show or a talk show, it never does well. So I'm curious, there are some exceptions of people who have like started on YouTube and like directed things or acted in things. But there's never been a personality that's actually broken through onto a mainstream platform. Let me stop you there. Hawk to a girl.

That is a good point. Who's now disappeared or something? I don't know what she's doing. She stole a bunch of money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Meme coin. I don't know. I mean it says his YouTube video did well.

It got 50 million views in 24 hours, which is like a promotion for the show. But that doesn't count because that's his own personal platform that people grow their phones. I'm not saying anything in terms of numbers other than the thing that Mr. Beast said. I don't know if this was a good investment for them. Anyway, normal man. Okay. Now who does the people think is the most normal man? Most normal man was Elon Musk with 23% of the vote. Runner-up was David Zasla with 17%. Listeners also suggested Hayley Welch, the Hawk Tour girl. That's a good point. She also is normal I feel like. Like genuinely. I think she got tricked into doing a scam.

Not tricked, she should have looked into it. She's an adult woman. But like I think she was doing really well at not stepping into all this weird shit. And then she did. She sort of, she did that thing where she's like, okay, what I think probably happened is she was a viral hit for the video she was in. And then a bunch of people swarmed her and were like, we can make exactly a money spinning thing. Yeah. And she's like, I'll go along with that. I love money. And then

somebody said, you know, a great way to get a bunch of money is to do a meme coin scam. Yeah. And it's true. And we should have done it. No, we still can. Did we mention somebody made a three printed a real meme coin of us? Did they? Yes. On top of that video that was released. Incredible video. Good work everybody.

Now here's a new award. Wait, no it's not. Because the Flash won last year. Okay. This award is what's the weirdest thing that happened. So last year the Flash won because the CGI was bad but then the director was like. No it's good actually. Yeah we did this on purpose.

Yeah. Okay here it is. Here are the nominees the nominees are nominees are an actor returns in Alien Romulus Yep, I think we can say at this point. Okay, it's some in home. Yeah, he's dead. He died He's dead for a while. He's in a lot of that movie. He certainly is. Yep Dakota Johnson's Madame Webb press tour. Yeah, I didn't watch a lot of it, but it was weird The Joker sequel bombs at the box office. Yeah, that was strange Marvel can't make a blade movie I mean that's been happening for that's that's a decade long thing. Yeah, Megalopolis very fucking weird Yeah, yeah, Michael Bay skibbity toilets movie announced which he also might not be able to make the assets are owned by Did you say that? Did you tell me that the assets are owned by valve or whatever? I mean, it's a it's a yeah

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. But who owns anything with these tags? It's true. The Rock admits to peeing in bottles and pooing in bottles. And pooing in bottles. Our DJ returns to the MCU as Dr. Doom. Yeah, I wasn't like, it didn't fucking blow my mind.

Makes sense. Some of the Deadpool and Wolverine cameos. Yeah. Spum finally ends, but maybe it hasn't ended. Yeah, that's not a surprise. Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo's Wicked Press Tour. They had a wicked good time didn't they? Wicked good time. It was a wicked piss-art. I didn't really get... It was a wicked piss-art, James. It was. It's very Boston of you to say that. I didn't um, I didn't watch a lot of that so I can't really across it to be honest.

Yeah, I think it sort of... Everyone was crying at him. There was some weird stuff. There's that I think most famously quite early in the in the tour Somebody interviewed them and said I was really holding space for the lyrics or whatever and Ariana Grande and Cynthia Ovea were like Yeah, that's a great point But not nobody knew what they were talking about and the interviewer didn't know what they were talking about and that went but I I mean That's no I feel that's no more weird than most press tours now. Or someone will always, because there's so many influencers now doing interviews and weird stuff that someone always shows up and does something weird inevitably in the,

Eat this cactus. Exactly. Yeah. So, you know, no, no, we're, and then this one is called, is it cake or is it cactus? Oh yeah. And what is it? It's always cactus. It's always cactus. And it just looks like a cactus. You have to take a bite to- No, I would say the interviewee will be like, should I bite this?

And you go, no, it's a cactus. What are you serious? Look at it. No, I want them to bite it. Okay, right, great. Yeah, and then I tell them afterwards, no, it's always cactus. And this one says, Nick Mason watched all The Rookie, but I didn't.

Well, it's interesting because I wouldn't say that's unusual, is it? Yeah, let's move on. Okay, but what's... Because we've got a lot of these to go through, but I think it's Megalopolis. I think it's Megalopolis. Look, I mean, the thing about this is, Actor Returns and Alien Romance, not the first time it's happened. This sort of disrespectful movie was all right.

Family approved, so all we can say. Therespectful. Movie was alright. Family approved. So, all we can say. The Madame Web press tour was no weirder than anything Dakota Johnson's. I'd say, I think we did that for all the press tours. Yeah, yeah. Joker sequel. It's, I mean, it followed the trend of a lot of superhero stuff. Yes.

You know what I mean? Marvel can't make a Blade movie. That's ongoing. Standard stuff. Skippity toilet fine. Rock of Mr. P in bottles. Weird, but. Yeah, he's done it before. I did Jerry Returns to MC who was Dr. Doom.

That's a Hail Mary pass, it's not that weird. I mean it's the highest profile recasting. We don't know how weird it is until it's out. True, true, true, true, true. Some of the Deadpool and Wolverine cameos. Yawn. Yawn. Yeah, yawn.

Spon-fun liens. Nah. Yeah, nah. Ariana Grande, nah. And Nick Mason, that's a fake thing. For me itFind Lee-Enns? Nah. Yeah, nah. Ariana Grande? Nah. And Nick Mason, that's a fake thing. For me, it's Megalopolis. I agree.

Because it's been... I don't think it's strange that you watched all the rookie either. No. I think that's fine. Megalopolis, because it's his 50-year opus, it's been through so many things that it just came out and was stupid. It's a stupid movie and it's done crook stuff and people in it had done crook stuff and he's like, I'm going to make this. This is

all the stuff that they said I couldn't make. Well, you shouldn't have. Stupid. It's a stupid movie. The winner is Nick Mason watched all the rookie with 24%. Yeah, because it's the yeah. But the runner up is Rock admitting that he peed in bottles at 80%. Listeners also suggested James saying Red One was the best movie ever. Let me again say that I watched that, then I went away on a dad's weekend where I was hung over, and I got fucking COVID, and then I reviewed that movie. And then I took it back.

Okay. Okay. So that is... No. Okay. What's next? A real treat. Exclusive to us, this one one I think, thus far.

Yeah. But this is the winner of the Gamers On Award. This is my favorite award. This award is loosely described, thank you, thank you Collings for summarizing this. God is good. Because it's hard for us to do it. This award is loosely described as the worst or most outrageous attempt to set up a sequel that might never happen, usually in the final scene or post credits.

Named after a famous attempt at this in Dracula Untold 2014. Last year the entire DCEU won it for their multiple attempts. Boy they really did. Sometimes multiple ones in the same movie, just whatever. God I'm looking ahead at this and my god this is a bumper year for this. Yeah okay, Norman Eaza, the acolyte. Yep. Oh there's Darth Plagueis.

Darth Plagueis, he was in a cave, remember when he looked out of the cave? Yeah yeah, the Argoll maybe was in the Kingsman universe, maybe there are two Henry Cavagueis. He was in a cave. Remember when he looked out of the cave? Yeah, yeah. The Argole maybe was in the Kingsman universe. Maybe there are two Henry Cavills. Or it's in a book or something. Maybe the whole thing's in a book. Or in someone's mind or time travel.

I don't know. Who knows? Yeah. The Eternals? Retroactively with 2024's Blade Delays. Nah. Okay, right. Blade Delays.

Yeah. I'm gonna say no. Kevin Costner's Horizon, an American saga. Love that. I don't think it's something. No. That's more of ambition and not sequel bait. Yeah. It's his desire to make an ongoing saga. Love that but I don't think it's the I don't think it's out there. That's more of ambition and not sequel bait. Yeah. It's his desire to make an ongoing saga. Sure. Craven the Hunter. Yeah. Madame Web. Yeah. Rebel Moon part two. God that came out did it? Yeah Venom the Last Dance. Yeah. The entire Spomb or other. Now these options. God. I think Madame Web because it's like it's the classic

and look at all that because they really did like look at all's like it's the classic and look at all that because they really did like look at all the future events we'll have and look at Madame Webb she's astral projecting into a future adventure but you don't see any of it. Yeah I want to say it. It's just her stand it's just the spider-woman just standing there. Yeah. I think that's cool stuff. That is cool and remember when they threw that guy out of that building? Yeah yeah yeah yeah. They killed that guy. They killed that guy and it's just the whole movie is building up towards your I mean I gotta kill you guys because of all the fantastical Yeah, yeah, yeah. They killed that guy. They killed that guy. And it's just the whole movie is building up towards

Your I mean I gotta kill you guys because of all the fantastical adventures you're going to have. Yeah, including throwing me out of that building Venom kind of caps off itself. Like it feels like this is the last time Tom Hardy is going to do this Not to say that that is true, but it even has a little retrospective Yeah, and five song at the end or whatever And but Craven does a bunch of stuff. No, that's true. It does. Yeah. Yeah.

Including now you're the real Craven and now you're going to take over my legacy Craven. And he sits in the Craven chair with the Craven vest on. And also I points for that because they don't even commit to the look. No. They don't even give him the vest with the lion head on it. Just a little bit of fur. Wow. What an iconic vest. A vest. I could go down to shops now and buy one of those. You could get one.

What about now? Cause it's summer. No, the acolyte, whatever. I feel it was just, it was the first of what was supposed to be three seasons. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Argyle is interesting because there is this, it seems like they've been trying to build this Kingsman, I guess kick-ass everything else kind of universe. There were two kick ass movies coming again and one's a secret or something. It's a big game universe. I guess that's true because they... But they don't even own all of that. So I don't know what that's going to...

Yeah. All the middle of stuff. That is... I mean, I'll give that points because it's just shooting for the moon of whatever. Yeah, okay. Just like, hey, what would you prefer? That Henry Cavill is real in this universe, but he's a different guy But Kingsman, but also interesting. That is tempting like my okay. Also Kevin Costner the horizon. I don't care

No, I don't care. I mean it's he was planning on making three or four or something Yeah, and he's got at least two from a financial perspective We love it. That is funny that it was such a huge bomb that he's gonna have to cut half of it Yeah, he's gonna have to do a quick fix ending to the second one. I want to know what the last cowboy thinks Yeah, absolutely. Just Kevin Costner, but also his character who's also called Kevin Costner. I Mean rebel moon is like there's gonna be nine movies and a video game and a comic book and But I also feel like this was dead on arrival from the first one. Okay, fair point.

Yeah. Yeah. This is not a surprise to me. They wouldn't have made this one if they hadn't already made it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, it's a toss up between Argyle and Madame Web. I think it's Argyle and Spum. Spum in general.

Just Spum. Okay, but we've got to pick one. I'm going to pick Spum. Okay. What do you think? Argyle was confusing. I think is interesting. I think you're absolutely right.

I think at least Madame Webb. I mean, that was also confusing. It was also confusing, but at least they're like, okay, at the end of this, we're going to have a team and it's going to be the three spider women and Madame Webb and they're going to stay set up in a in an apartment with a view of the city and they're going to fight crime, I guess. Oh, probably. And they're gonna stay set up in a in an apartment with a view of the city and they're gonna fight crime I guess I'll probably that's you know, that's that's not gonna happen Obviously, they're ever gonna do another one of those but at least it's a definitive thing. Yeah, you're you are correct

It's for me. It's our goal because it's such a Meaningless, it's it's we'll figure it out later. Yeah, okay So for me that's that's the guy that is the essence of the game is on yeah It's like we don't know what do you Henry Cavill? You like him mullet? But you don't like him, but we could cut his hair. We could say he's real, but then we cut his hair. He's American. So we look and put him in the velvet jacket, so maybe. Yeah. It's a... I think it's Spum though, because again, it is a lifetime achievement award and they had three movies this year. That's true. And they all went nowhere and bombed and I think that and it's I mean a trilogy of bombs

from an extended Spider-Man universe in one year. That's the perfect storm. So I'm gonna have to give it to Spum. With increasingly worse one Tomatoes. Yeah that's right. And Box Office. Yeah. Oh no, Madden Web and then Venom.

Yep. Anyway the entirety of Spun won with 43%, followed by Igole with 12%. So, yep, that's cool. You're right. They should have. They should have won. Yeah. They should have made one of them good. I agree. Or just made one of them. Spent it really good.

One good movie. Okay, here's the award for the best animated movie. Last year across the Spider-Verse won with almost 80% of the vote. Makes sense. So I don't think we're going to get anything like that here. No. Okay, Flow. I don't of the vote make sense I don't think we're gonna get anything like that here. No Okay, flow. I don't know what that is. Oh, no Justice League crisis on infinite earth probably not three probably not look back. Don't know what that I Moana too. I saw that It's fine. It's fine inside out to I didn't say that all right did well

It did really well minor to an ant inside out of doing very well. Yeah robots dream. I'm very good Haven't seen it Oh Transformers one. I wonder if that's gonna win it better. Otherwise these guys War the Lord of the Rings the war of heron haven't seen it haven't seen that on streaming now watch watchman chapters one and two I've read it and I've watched it and I don't know I'm no interest in that The wild robot watches you reading the Watchman? Nobody. Interesting. The Wild Robot. I liked it. Other.

Yeah, I think it... maybe it is Transformers 1 for me. So, I mean it was better than we thought it was going to be. Yeah, but then again, The Wild Robot's cool. I didn't say it. Would you say that Transformers 1 is the best robot movie this year? Bearing in mind, there seems to be at least three. Oh no. That's unfortunate.

It's a kick in the teeth for the Transformers fans who are trying to rig out results. I am going to give it to the Wild Robots. How did the Transformers fans learn about this? They must have just put it out on Twitter and they found it. Was this 6-0's fault? Did 6-0 do it? Do you think it was 6-0? It might have been 6-0. What are you going to give it to? Transformers. Well that one with 40% of

the vote, embarrassing again if they didn't manage that. Runner-up was the Royal Robot with 25%. Okay. Alrighty, we bloody go. That feels to me like traitors to the cause or like. I agree. I'm a Transformers fan and I do like robots but I kind of like the robot, the Royal Robot more. It's a good movie. I didn't say it. Mmm. Best horror. Ooh, Big E for horror. I agree. Big E for horror. Spooky's Time of Year. Not just talking about last year's winner Talk to the hand. That was a good one. Australia's own a great. Okay, Abigail. Yep. She's a vampire I liked it surprised alien Romulus liked it a quiet place day one liked it heretic liked it. Did you say yeah?

I saw the TV glow. I haven't seen it. I heard good things. Yeah immaculate. I like that Sydney Sweeney one I thought it was fine. Yeah late night with the devil like that. That's a good one long legs. Yeah, I like that as well speak no evil Okay, which one was that? Oh, that's the one with James McAvoy's back. Oh boy. Oh Say it. Yeah, I mean I saw a hundred I saw him full movies worth of trailers for that movie. Yeah, that's good Sting big spider. Yes, that was a fun one for kids, I think. Smile 2 apparently is very good. I didn't see it. Didn't see it. The Substance, that was my fave. Is it a horror movie? The Substance. Yeah. It's gross. Is it body horror though? Yeah. Counts. Terrify 3 didn't see it. I mean, so apparently a guy gets a chainsaw up the butt. You shouldn't do that. No, I don't think so either. Yeah. The First Omen.

Yeah, I didn't see that either. Okay, I'm giving it substance delightful. Maybe it's just because I saw it at a film festival and there was like a full center of people who were super into it. But I thought it was good and fun. In terms of a movie that did spook me, even if it didn't make sense towards the end, I really liked Long Legs. I'm going to say Long Legs. And I like Nicolas Cage's performance.

Does Trap count as a horror movie? Trap, oh yeah, I guess. Josh Huffinett. Yeah, it's more of a thriller. It's a thriller, isn't it? More of's more of a thriller. It's a thriller isn't it? More of a Michael Jackson's thriller. It's so true. The winner was Alien Romulus with 26% of the vote.

Interesting. Run up the substance with 22%. Can you believe people just love big brands? They're swayed by big brands. That's true. And they got tricked by Disney. So the two brands, Alien Romulus and Dennis Quaid. That's right, exactly.

No, I liked Alien Romulus. Yeah me too. I thought it was actually very good. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense What do we got next? Best video game adaptation thing last year was The Last of Us. Yep This year arcane season 2. Still haven't watched it. Me neither. People are like I'm a Mullinion. Why have you watched Arcane? Because of the E-Mart. Actually I did watch it. I didn't like it. There you go. I didn't like it. I thought it was shit. Terrific. I also thought the second season was better, but I still thought it was shit interesting No, I hate all the voice acting. It looked like shit. That's it. Yeah, it was really actually yeah

Well, I haven't seen it yet. So look forward to my review of it, but it is shit. I've heard that from a lot of people Okay, I came season two borderlands fucking atrocious fallout good knuckles Yeah, wasn't bad tomb raider the legend Lara Croft secret level much that either Sonic the Hedgehog 3 isn't out So I haven't seen it. It's out. Yeah. Yeah, that's a day in Australia. Yeah. Um, well, I'm gonna give it to fall I'm also gonna give it to fall out, but it's probably arcane. That's what's how accurate to fall out. Is it donno? Apparently it's more accurate to the more recent versions of Fallout. Like the newer Fallout games have taken some liberties with the original concept. They've changed some stuff around and some big Fallout fans, OG Fallout fans are not happy with that, I think.

Let me tell you this Mason, that doesn't matter to me at all. Correct. And maybe her butt was too flat. I saw that was a complaint at some point. But it was a good show and had the ghoul in it. It did have the ghoul. I liked it a lot. Yeah. Well Fallout 1 with 51%, Fallout Arcane Season 2 with 23%.

That's interesting because you didn't like that. No, it was shit. Sonic 3 was a late edition. It got a ton of votes in just a few days at 14%. So there you go. That's pretty goddamn good. That's a little lesson there for the Sonic producers. If you want to win this, and I'm sure you do, get it out a little earlier in the year. Yeah, God do God do best streaming service this year All right. This was the closest vote last year with Disney Plus narrowly bidding Amazon Prime by point three percent. Well, well well Okay heard of any of these streaming services. Yep, Apple TV Amazon Prime

Bombs.com Disney Plus Netflix HBO Max, Hello, Paramount Plus, Peacock, Stan, Tooby, YouTube, other. YouTube is the thing I watch the most. Yes, I am. But I do like most of these. They all have stuff on them, but not always at the same time.

I got to do that thing where you shuffle between streaming services. Oh, maybe you need Hubble. Maybe I do. Maybe you need Hubble, the little box that you put on your. I'm not getting another box. Everybody we know has done a Hubble ad except us. Is it because we openly rubbish the concept of Hubble?

Yeah, because we think it's shit like Arcane Season 2, which is better than Season 1. For people that don't know, Hubble is a little box in Australia. You put on your top of your TV and then it just... You might think, is it from 1994? Well, in a way. Yeah. But go on. It's just JustWatch.com.

You just search in it and it's like, it's on Netflix. It tells you what it is. It doesn't actually did you have to have the actual service? I don't know. Yeah, you have to have the service. So the TV got in a box. It's a TV got in a box Just fucking Google it. Yeah, Jesus. Yeah, that's what that's what it is. What is so I thought it was like like it I Can't be had by the way, this is fun I thought it was like you bought and it gave you like like a subscription package I assumed that I have to buy subscription packages separately you have to acquire them on your own but what

it is everyone has a phone you know so it's a box you put on your TV and it's got a graphical interface yeah and you go I would like to watch the penguin I wonder what ping the penguin is I wonder what the penguin you go the search bar and you type in the penguin or it just, there's probably like options and it just says it's on binge and you've got it. And you go, okay, and you click it and it replaced the penguin.

You've got penguin. That's unbelievable. But again, for people who are considering getting Hubble, just go to justwatch.com and you type in the penguin and it says it's on binge. And then you just go to binge. Or ask us, cause we know to bin or ask us cuz we know Don't ask us actually Hubble of course is an anagram that stands for huge Brazilian butt lift. It's HUBBL

It's YouTube you think they're gonna give us money for that yeah, yeah, I think so too. I think why wouldn't I it's a great point I also think it's YouTube. Yeah, I love YouTube. We say it's YouTube every year. I mean, I've watched something on all of these except for Tooby. You're watching something on Stan? You're watching some original content? Yeah, I watched something on Stan. You're watching the final season of Bump? No, but I could.

It's the final season. Everyone's pregnant. Everyone's pregnant. I'm a teenage boy in high school. How am I pregnant? Satan did it. Satan did it. Yeah.

Alright. Yeah, you touch yourself at night and that's a sin. So Satan made you pregnant. That's cool. Yeah. Well, it's good to try something different. I did it? Yeah. Alright. Yeah, you touch yourself at night and that's a sin. So Satan made you pregnant. That's cool. Yeah. Well it's good to try something different. I think it is too.

Alright, I will watch Binge, I mean Stan, Satan gets you pregnant. Okay great. For your teenage boy. Terrific. What did the people say though, Mason? I don't know. I'll tell you. Winner is YouTube with 20% of the vote followed by Disney Plus.

We did it folks. Disney Plus got some good stuff, man. I agree. Even though they're a horrible soulless corporation. Yeah. Mason. They've got stuff. stuff man? I agree. Even though they're a horrible soulless corporation. Yeah. They've got stuff. I mean they all are. They all are.

Yeah. I mean YouTube is Google. Yeah. Mason didn't you know? No. Yeah you're part of the problem. Wow. I'm anti-capitalist.

I only live the right way. Yeah. Yeah. On a bed of straw. Best video game is the next category. I'm in trouble here. Bearing in mind. I bet I haven't played any of straw. Best video game is the next category. I'm in trouble here. I bet I haven't played any of these. Note from Collin's, these nominations below were chosen by listeners, so please don't come at us.

Spider-Man 2 won last year. Okay. Astro Bot, Bellatro, which is a card game, I think. Yep. Black Myth, Wukong. Monkey Man, yeah. We are in some dangerous territory because a lot of people are mad because that didn't win something this year, Black Myth. Oh. Astro Bot won Game of the Year at the at the game. Oh, that's right. Yeah, like this is well

I give it to black myth Wukong. I'm going it now Call of duty black ops 6 sure Final Fantasy 7 rebirth no helldivers to like it Indiana Jones the great circle What if I could Marvel rivals did play it have played it hill to yep good Star Wars outlaws played like an hour of it Thank goodness. You're here. I did Outlaws. Played like an hour of it. Thank goodness you're here, I did play that. Yeah, what's thank goodness you're here? It's like our little point and clicky adventure sort of thing. You love that shit, of course it is.

I know, so that's my winner. And then The Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom. What is that? I don't, I'm not doing it. That's not even the Zelda, the big Zelda was the other one, right? Yeah, big Zelda. Big Zelda.

Did Robocop come out this year? No. So I played that. I don't think it did, unless it did. Well, I played Marvel Rivals and Star Wars. You sure did. So I'm gonna give it to Star Wars. Even though I don't love it. In fact, I think it's pretty boring. Wow. But it's the game on here that I've played other games, but mostly older games this year. Yeah. What about you? Thank goodness you're here. Because it's the only one I've played. Oh, you did say that. Let's have a look at what the people say. They said Astro Bot and Indiana Jones both won with 16.9% of the votes. Marvel rivals 14%. You can be Doctor Strange.

You can make a portal. You can do a portal with Doctor Strange. Next one. Nice. Next! Okay. Well, this is a bit indulgent. Favorite Caravan of Garbage series.

This is where I shine, Mason. Because it's the stuff you made? Yep. Last year's winner was the You Know It When You See It series featuring Dick it series featuring deep Tracy rockety Phantom shadow and green Hornet. It was fun Here we go alien one to four. Yeah avatar the last airbender. Yeah classic Godzilla and King Kong I know hellboy kick-ass Mad Max Planet of the Apes Terminator 1 & 2 Tom Holland spider-man the thing The Lord of the Rings trilogy and games just finished that real Ghostbusters. Yes, Russell Crowe to the. The Rusty Crowe history trilogy. Yeah. The Wizard of Oz. Yep. Video game movies, Wolverine movies, Zorro movies. I enjoyed looking at those Russell Crowe movies. They were, yeah. And you know,

Lord of the Rings we just finished so it would probably be that but Mad Max was fun. Mad Max was fun. Oh it was fun wasn't it? Yeah. I mean. Planet of the Apes was good. Yeah. Classic Godzilla and King Kong was also good. That was was more more. Um, it's fun looking back at any. Yeah looking into all more Um little more magical than I thought that would be and I've had the last Airbender We recorded like four years ago, and then I sat on it I thought I lost it and I found it. So that was a big deal. Huh? Not the last thing you sat on you thought you lost I'm gonna go with Mad Max. You got me then I did it's true

Uh, yeah, I'm gonna go with mad man Why cuz we probably reviewed it and we probably Max. You got me then. I did, it's true. Yeah, I'm going to go with Mad Max. You know why? Because we probably reviewed it and we probably said a bunch of Australian things. We did. And that's fun. And look forward to that in the new year. You'll see when you see it.

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Alright. Oh, here's one. This is for the worst series ever. Okay. Unsurprisingly, last year's runaway winner was Marvel's Secret Invasion. Are we going to get a sweep that that strong because that was atrocious Look at this. Let's let's find out these nominations below were chosen by listeners. Don't come at us. Okay, we're series ever The acolyte is fine avatar the last day. I forgot that came out the bear season 3 Interesting the boys season 4. It was all. Bridgerton Season 3. Didn't watch it. Do we have a lot of Bridgerton fans? Should we be...

Bridgeting? Should we be Bridgetering or Torrenton? Mr. Bridgerton. How dare you, Mr. Bridgerton? How dare you come at me with your shirt unbuttoned so? Mr. Bridgerton? You're a beast, Mr. Bridgerton. I won't have it. It's pretty good. I bet it is. House of the Dragonerton. I won't have it. It's pretty good. I bet it is. House of the Dragon season 2.

Don't like it. Lord of the Rings of Power season 2. Didn't finish it. The Office Australia. Yeah, didn't finish it. The Walking Dead. The Ones Who Live. Don't remember.

True Detective Night Country. That was alright. Worst. Worst. I don't like Game of Thrones man. I didn't like their House of the Dragon series. I don't like anyone on it. Right. I don't like it. Thrones, man. I didn't like the House of the Dragon series. I don't like anyone on it. I don't like it.

I'm going to say that. I'm going to say, I don't care about any of these. I like the Bear Season 3. A lot of people said... It wasn't as good and whatever. Yeah, yeah. But I think there were some good episodes. Did you watch the Bear Season 3?

I haven't started it. I did start it when I started. There are some great episodes where we see the kind of the origin stories of some of the supporting cast. I think there's an episode directed by IO Eddebri, which is about, you know, how there's the lady and she, IO Edebri gets the job and there's the older lady. She's like, Oh, I like you. Yeah.

We get her origin story. I think it's really good. Where'd you get our superpowers? Sandwiches. Great. Yeah. But her husband is that guy from Dexter and they're married in real life. The main guy from Dexter?

No. James Reimer? No. The main guy from Dexter? No! James Riemer? No. The guy who wears the hat? Yes. Do you know who I'm talking about? Yes. The guy with the hat? I think so. Okay great. Yeah it's great. I'm happy for them. Yeah yeah yeah. The Acolyte won with 25% of the vote. The run-alump was Avatar the last day, I've been with 18%. I thought the Acolyte was alright. The Acolyte, it's alright. It's alright. Would you recommend it though? No, but there's other stuff to watch. I agree. There's probably something in best series ever.

Let's find out. Hang on, but I don't know which is my least favourite. Oh. I'm gonna pick something I didn't see. House of the Dragon season 2. I agree. That's mine. Cop that Matt Smith, if you're still in that in fact. He is.

That's right. Best series ever. Alright. The Last of Us also won this last year. Nominations below were chosen by listeners, don't come at us. We won't. Best series ever. Nominations. Agatha All Along.

Uh-huh. Arcane Season 2. Well, we know you're on it. That was shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Baby Reindeer. I remember that. The Boys Season 4.

Uh-huh. Invincible Season 2. Yeah, I like that. The Fallout. Good. The Penguin. Good. Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

Loved it. Shogun. Yeah, is that, yeah. X-Men 97. Yeah, I like that too. Ooh, got some good contenders here. For me, it's Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Thought it it. Shogun. Yeah. X-Men 97. Yeah, I liked that too. Oh, got some good contenders here. For me, it's Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

Thought it was terrific. That is a good series. I loved all the little fashions. I loved how each story opened in a little bit of a different way. I liked their pairing. The writing was really good. Just everything about that I really enjoyed.

James, you've taken the words right out of my mouth regarding the series Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Great. It's a shame that those characters are not coming back. They might actually. Oh. Yeah. They might.

Isn't it about some young folks next? I mean, I'm sure they'll return in some capacity. Yeah, there may be a skin who's in it mentioned that maybe. Is it, but is it like, have they mentioned some upcoming stars and it was like some young people? Yeah, there's some other people in it, yes. Some like, yeah, anyway. Not as young as us though.

I'm going to say Mr. and Mrs. Smith, because you're absolutely right, it was a delightful time. I loved the one where they had to look after Ron Perlman. That was fun. He was like, I'm old. I'm old, Ron Perlman. Give me a cigarette. Exactly.

The Penguin one, that's 25% of the vote. Fair enough. I didn't think that Mr. and Mrs. Smith finale was that strong. No, no, I disagree. How about that? Okay, well, I thought it was strong. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting.

Or maybe I just didn't like the fact that they were no spoilers. I didn't like the ambiguity of it all. I didn't like the fact that. Paul Dano. No, I did like Paul Dano. He's like the other Mr. and Mrs. Smith couple because I like that.

They were fun. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it a lot. Okay, great. I'm going to people say, oh, what do you say? Sorry, the pink. Yeah, I'm gonna say Mrs. Smith great. What did the people say? Oh sorry, the penguin won with 25% of the vote. Fair enough. Runaway was X-Men 97 with 18%.

Yep, that was good. They're both good. I can't really argue with that. But we will! Next up we've got... Worst movie ever. The Flash won last year. Fair call. But this year, the nominees. Yep, bad movie. But this year the nominees are, some treats in here, Argyle, awful. Fuck. Borderlands, awful. The

Crow, not as bad as those other two. Young People, Deadpool and Wolverine. No, no, that shouldn't be. Yeah, Madame Webbe, that also shouldn't be. Joker fully adored. Nah. Craven the Hunter. Nah. Megalopolis. moon part 2 the scar give up did not like that red one bad movie venom the last dance for me It's our guile of Borderlands. You know, it's Borderlands. Yes, Borderlands has clearly been tampered with it's not funny This are girl had um in a good cast. That's true I mean, I guess borderlands has a good car. Well, that's has capeadshed in it. Yeah. But it was atrocious and it was so unfunny and uninspiring and someone turned into an angel at the end and they wanted to get into a box or something and the action was bad. Like you could say with Argyle there was some good action sequences in it.

That's so true. Like the train fight. Yep-hmm yep. Um yeah I mean that that at least has one action sequence but I could not name another good Borderlands action sequence and as much as we've made fun of like Joker Folly Adur and to the extent that that is some sort of weird experiment in telling all the fans of the first one that they were awful people. That's funny at least. That is funny. And again we got to put these through the lens of none of this is our money you know what I mean? Yeah. And Megalopolis, that's Francis Ford Coppola's money. You can do what he wants.

Yep. And we love that. Except for crimes. He's not allowed to do that. Stop doing crimes. Rebel Moon Part 2, although just boring. So boring. Remember when Jimmy the Robot had a fight?

He was like, I'll fight for you. I'll fight for your Rebel Moon. I think Rebel Moon Part 2 was worse than Borderlands. Maybe. You might be right. I'm not going to fight you on that. No, no, absolutely not. I think it's, I think it's rebel moon part two. I would love to, you know, in a, in a less, in a less stacked year, Borderlands I think would take it. I just don't like anything that Borderlands did at all.

I think at least in rebel moon, you could say at some point there was some imagery where I went, I maybe. Okay. And maybe there was a hot sword and that was okay. It might have been a hot sword, yeah. But Borderlands was just... I thought Kevin Hart was alright in Borderlands. Yeah, but apparently he's not like that at all. I don't know, whatever. We're allowed...

I wouldn't even say nobody's... no one's bad in Borderlands. I wouldn't even say that. There's not like a... that's what an at What an atrocious performance would you rather watch again? Marry Moon part two of Borderlands Borderlands is shorter. I yeah same I'd rather watch Borderlands again if we were gonna do a commentary on it Yeah, I would rather watch Borderlands again, because at least I can point at things and go that's in that looks interesting You know, you couldn't do that for rebel boo. I don't think I what if you saw an oxen that's brown What if you saw an oxen? Well that's brown.

What if you saw an oxen and it looked different than another oxen? I could say that. What if they were shoveling coal into a fucking starship? That's pretty good. What if they went back for the wheat and then they went fuck it just shoot all the wheat? It's true they could burn all that wheat couldn't they? No I'm still saying it's Rebel Moon. Alright, well Joker 2 won with 17.7% followed by Borderlands with 17.4, coming in nice and close.

Oh, here we go, Mason. Oh, the most Just a Movie ever. James's most anticipated movie won this one last year. What was that? Indiana Jones. Oh yeah, that's a show. Five. Most Just a Movie.

Here we go. Argyle. No. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. That was Just a Movie. Beverly Hills Cop 4. I'm going to say a little bit better than Just a Movie. Yeah, Deadpool and Wolverine. No, a little bit better than that.

The Fall Guy. Little bit better. Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. Sucks. Godzilla X-Kong The New Empire. No, that was good. Red One. Ugh.

Twisters. Yup. Venom The Last Dance. God! Good feel for just a movie. Far out. Can we eliminate some? Our guy was bad.

Our guy was bad. Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is in the running I think yep that was all right yep Beverly Hills cop I don't mind it that was lots of fun I like Joe that guy RIP who died yes ah it's a shame Deadpool Wolverine better than better than just an okay yeah the fall guy that's an okay stuff in it yeah I think the Emily Blunt Ryan Gosling romance pretty fun. Good action when it looked real. When it looked real, which is not a lot of the time. Ghostbusters Frozen Empire.

Don't know anything about this. Interesting, okay. Thought it was alright. I would say, no, I would be more negative on that than just a movie. You would, yeah, that's true. Yeah. Godzilla X-Kong. I liked it.

More fun than just a movie. Agreed. Red One, Red One's... Bad. Yeah. I would say it's bad. I would say it's, yeah, it's on the cusp of just a movie because 80 million dollars I would just a movie. Yeah, yeah twist is a lot of fun. This is all right Yeah, this is a lot of fun venom the last dance. Oh, that's pretty just a movie. It's very just a movie

Very just a movie. Honestly, you know the one that I'm most indifferent to on this is Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Yeah, right. So I feel like that's where I should go. Where I'm like, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yep. Hmm. Whereas like-

Because it doesn't do anything wrong. No. It's not, except for including the pedophile. Oh, yeah. Um. Oh, yeah. Quite prominently as a claymation man. Uh, I-

It's interesting to think about. Yeah. I think for me, it's a tie between Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice and Venom, the last dance. I'm going to give it to Beetlejuice. I'm going to, sorry, I'm going to give, give, give, sorry. Sorry guys. I'm going to give, I'm going to give it to Venom, the last dance. Okay.

Nothing stood out. They tried. They're like, what if there was a venom with lightning lady powers? What if? Nothing. It irrelevant. Yeah. She uses them for two seconds.

I'm going to Beetlejuice it. All right. And people are saying, is that a verb now? Yep. Yeah. Use them for two seconds. I'm gonna Beetlejuice it. All right. People are saying. Is that a verb now? Yep. Okay. People are saying the Fall Guy with 16% and Ghostbusters Frozen Empire with 13%. The winner. Yes. Oh no, I was about to read out the next one. The best thing. Wow. Here we go. Best movie ever. All right. Last year Across the Spider-Verse was the winner. Uh huh. And here are the nominees. Alien Romulus, Challenges, Civil War, Deadpool and Wolverine, Dune Part 2, Furiosa and Mad Max Saga, Monkey Man, The Substance, Transformers 1, The Wild Robot. Of these. Are they going to try and juice it, these Transformers fans? Maybe. Wow. I didn't see. Of these, yeah. Are are you transforming to useful in as a society? Whoa, maybe they are.

Maybe they live rich, fulfilling lives. Maybe. Do you think they don't though? Uh, I couldn't say. Never met one in the real world. Uh, from just this list? Yep. Challenges.

Challenges, yeah. There must be more though. Right, more good movies this year. Yeah. Look up good movies come out this year. Oh yeah, best movie is 2024. My old ass, The Substance. Oh good movies this year. Look up good movies. Best movies 2024. My old ass, The Substance. Dear Santa. Don't Move. Challenges is good. I'm really looking forward to Queer. Why didn't Gladiator 2 come up in any of this? Yeah, not at all. Is that

just a movie? I think so. Yeah. That's better than just a movie though. I think Denzel elevates that. Okay. Yeah. What a... Maybe it is Challenges. It's a good movie. I'm looking at everything else here and I'm like... Challenges is super fun and you watch it and you're like, man, what's this time shifting gimmick?

I don't know. It's going to work and then it just works perfectly. What about Dune Pass 2? You know what I really liked? Go on. Hit the Hitman. Yeah. Oh yeah.

I watched that twice. I liked it so much. It's a good movie. But again, I haven't seen like Love Lies Bleeding. That's apparently very good. It's probably challenges for me though. Yeah, I think so too. But I really, really liked Love Lies Bleeding.

I mean, I haven't seen that. I really liked Hitman. Hitman, yeah. It was good seen that. I really liked Hitman. Hitman, yeah. It was good. Even though you said all those things about Glenn Powell, which quite frankly was very rude. What are you going to say then?

I'm going to say Challenges. That's what the people say, the real people. Yeah, I agree with you. They say The Fall Guy. Interesting. No, they say Dune Part 2. That is a good movie also. With 35%.

No problem there. Runner-up, Transformers 1. Remember the part in Dune, part two? Yeah. Where all the people are, where Timothy Shalimar is like. We have to Dune, part two. No, James, you're misremembering. He said.

Get my knife. He said, if all of you swear to me to Dune, I swear to Dune too. You remember when he said that? Yeah. Yeah. That was. And they were. They all inhaled at the same time.

Did they? And he went, stop breathing in all the air. Yeah, that's right. It's moist and I want it. So, do you bet you want 35%? You never guessed who the follow-up, rather runner-up, is at 20%. Deadpool and Wolverine. No, it was Transformers 1.

Wow, nice try. Couldn't even get... Nice try, you low dogs. Nice work, man. Wow. Embarrassing for you. Wow. What are you? What are you? A bunch of, bunch of, bunch of insecticons.

Whoa. Buzzin' around our face. We're gonna swat them out of the way. Got him, got him, got him. What are you? Go on. Third was Deadpool and Wolverine. Yeah. What are you?

Those little cassette fellers. Yeah. What are you? A bunch of cassette fellers. You live in someone's chest. Yeah. What are you? Rat bat. What are you? Rumble. Yeah. what are you, a bunch of cassette fellas? You live in someone's chest? Yeah, what are you, Rat Bat? What are you, um... Rumble? Yeah, what are you, Rumble? What are you, Rumble?

Yeah. What are you, the one that turns into a cheetah or whatever? Cheetah? No, but there's a cassette. Maybe it's a lion. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you, that guy? Do you tell who you are?

Yeah. Get out of someone's chest and live your own life. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm telling you! Yes. All right. Yeah. We've got one more. It's very self indulgent. Oh yeah. Favorite moment from the podcast

of the year. I look, I couldn't possibly comment because I don't remember what you did. I could give you a list, but we don't have an actual, we don't have an actual thing. This is just an optional final thing if you'd like to nominate something from our best of 2024 clip show. Maybe we'll just leave this then, because this will come up in the clip show. Oh yeah. There's a lot of Mason watching the rookie. Oh yeah, that's a fun bit. Did you watch the rookie? I didn't. I'll say a single minute of it. All right. Oh, someone said all of it. Oh, that's pretty good. But that's not true. Some was bad. Some of it was bad. Some flat spots. Yeah, definitely. Just like right now. Yeah. Wow. Thanks everyone. Thanks. You're welcome.

We've got more podcast right now after this theme song for what we're reading. What we're gonna read. I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today? What? Great question, James. We'll see, we're recording currently on Boxing Day. You don't need to tell me that.

Day after Christmas, January, not January. January 21st. January 21st. That's when we're recording. Australia Day. That's right, which is different time zones. It is. Anywhere else it might be Christmas Day. It might be.

But there's some new movies out. Oh yeah, what do you want? Sonic 3's out. Yep. So is Better Man, the Robbie Williams biopic where he's a monkey. Yep, okay. Also, you know what I might watch? I might watch A Real Pain, which is the, do you know what I'm talking about?

Is that what you'm talking about? It's a Jesse Eisenberg movie. Oh, that's the one he does with Kieran Culkin. That's correct. I watched that Actors on Actors thing with him. And, yeah, that was incredible. Good, right? What a pairing.

They are a pairing. But apparently, and I think this was probably in that interview. I think it isn't. So it's Jesse Eisenberg. It's a movie he's written and directed and he started co-stars in with Kieran Culkin and he hired Kieran Culkin having not seen any of his work Ever and not really knowing him. He met him in an interview. He met him during the the auditions for Adventureland Yeah, which was years ago Then he was just like I'm gonna get Kieran Culkin and I've seen interviews with the both of them where Kieran Culkin's like

You never know me and then Jesse Eisenberg's like, but it's a vibe. And it's like, he's right. Yeah, he's not wrong. Like I saw, I saw like, it's also like, it's interesting to like, cause Kieran Culkin is kind of like a, it's like a kind of a, like a wild card a little bit. And Jesse Eisenberg is like meant to be this, like he, he's got a kind of a erotic vibe to him, but he's in this instance He's just like yeah, but you know hide this guy based on vibes. Yeah, he's right. Absolutely. That's a bit of fun I should watch that movie. I think I'll watch it also. You know what I haven't watched Craven again Oh, you could watch Craven. Also Wallace and Gromit out. There's new Wallace and Gromit. Oh is it? Yeah, Wallace versus Gromit.

Wallace versus Gromit, Dawn of Gromit Gromit's yeah Dawn of Grommet. Grommets. Yeah, Dawn of Grommets. I'm not watching What If, you're not watching that? No, but that is out isn't it? A few episodes. I know it's out because there are people just on Twitter just

spamming whole clips from the show. Okay. Are they liking it? People are liking it. I mean again, it's some of the vaguest. What if the Avengers had Max? What if the Avengers had Max? What if they did?

There's one that's What if Agatha went to Hollywood, which looks kind of fun. There's some Agatha Harkness and meets Kingo. Looks like a bit of fun. I think I might just not watch this. So, yeah, what about you? Ah, no, I'll watch it. I think.

Okay. Because of mechs. Oh, yeah. And there's a Red Guardian. Oh, the Red Guardian Winter Soldier one, one I do want to watch. So we're going to watch it. Are we?

What about this? Gonna watch it. I'll watch that one. I read the Alien Romulus comic. It's a prequel comic and Romulus comic Thompson, okay, and is that a prequel? Is that and yen nitro? It is a it's how the alien got on the Romulus Snuck on yeah, and it's got the ash robot in it and whatever and et cetera. Is that less disrespectful because it's a comic book?

Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, I'd say so. It's a one thing. One and done? Yeah, it was like, oh, okay, that's how I feel. One and done bit of fun, would you say? I would say it's a bit of fun. Would you say one and done, it's a bit of fun?

I wouldn't say that. Why not? Why not? Yeah. Because I don't have to say it. You should though. I don't have to say the things that you want me to say. We need more catchphrases for the coming year, 2025.

One and done, chainsaw in the bum, terrify three. What do you think? Yes. One and done, chainsaw in the bum, bit of fun. I think that's a bit of fun. It's not fun though. Well, for a lot of people it is. I don't think.

People are watching that movie. Oh, I thought you meant people that were experiencing that. No, I wouldn't want to experience that. You don't think? No. All right. I'm glad you're having a good time. I'm having a wonderful time. Should we go to that. You don't think? No. Alright. I'm glad you're having a good time. I'm having a wonderful time.

Should we go to the next segment of the show? Yes, it's called Letters. That's where we do letters. I'll do the letters thing. I'll let you. Last time this year. Yep. The classic one was...

Letters, oh letters, we love you, some letters, they're only a day my way. We're gonna be here right now, we're gonna do letters. Hey, if you wanna reach the show, it's quite simple. You just weekly plan a pod at gmail.com, send a gmail. And if you know him in real life, send him one and just say hi. Just like if you know him as a person. Oh, that's a great point. Hey man, remember me? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Remember me? I'm your friend from school. Yeah. Maybe you know me in real life, in which case you can also send one to. That's true. But yeah, I won't read it, but maybe Mason will read it to me. It might not even be on the show. He might just let me know.

I might do that. So your full name, send like maybe a picture of you so if I do know you, I would like to, yeah. That's true. I want to know who's listening to this. What are you up to? I want to know who's listening to this who knows me in real life. Okay.

All right? Even if you've lost contact for decades. Yeah, I want to know. Yeah, I would like to know that as well. Yeah. Is anyone out there? Yeah. Does anyone know what I'm doing?

Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple of people you know. Yeah. I'm like, are they listening and are they still alive? You are well aware that I have a few mystery high school friends where I'm like, what are they up to? I wonder if they're alive.

We've tried to puzzle it out. But I'm like, in order to do that, I have to have an awkward conversation with somebody, like a relative to be like, are they still alive? No. Oh. Anyways, or there's a thread in the Planet broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group. That's exactly right.

We'll probably move to Blue Sky at some point, or when we're on there, but like. All right, okay, yeah. I'm in the middle of something. Terrific. Here's an email from Grant. Grant? Hello gents, tell me what you think of this idea.

Grant, do I know you in real life? I don't think so. Okay. Yeah. Jake Johnson as live action Peter B Parker. Sony could actually tie together all of their terrible movies by making a one-off series or movie where Peter is just a kooky husband father fighting terrible super villains who take themselves seriously. We're already getting a spider-versed live action pipeline with Nick Cage's Spider-Man Noir. I feel like these insanely dumb movies deserve a goofy Spider-Man to tie them all together and really double down on how dumb they are. I think he would be terrific in doing that.

I think he would too, right? I liked his movie. I liked his movie this year, whatever it was. I mean, he doesn't really look like that guy. He looks good enough. Not good enough. He looks like Jake Johnson. And you could change the hair slightly. It's totally okay. You'd need to like work out a little bit, but not that much.

Yeah, exactly. I think it'd be fine. Yeah, I think that'd be really good. Yeah, that'd be good. I sort of, you know, this crops up every once in a while, but I, and of course, especially Christmas, but Michael Cain in Muppets Christmas Carol, you know, that one of those various interviews surfers where he's like, I'm playing this like Shakespeare. Yeah.

You know what I mean? You get a guy, you get the, you get the self-aware guy, get a guy, you get a guy in, you put them in the spam movies where he's like, this is stupid and you're all stupid and all your work was stupid. And it's true. And it's true actually. Yeah. I like it. And they're probably thought about it at the very least. This is from Theo Kaufman who says, gentlemen, do you think they'll introduce the DC use Batman in the Greenleaf Clayface film if not who would make a good villain?

I think you've introduced me to the work of Matt Painting. You're welcome. Now we've established, it's firmly been established that the Clayface movie is a DCU movie. Yes. It's not a Matt Reeves the Batman. I think Batman will be in it. Okay right. I think because otherwise it's just a Clayface solo movie. Now the question then becomes is this movie therefore going to be a success or is it like, do you think he's going to be in the entire movie or do you think it's a post-credit sequence? I don't know. It's weird you don't know that. I think he'll be in it. I think that would be, maybe he's like a shadowy figure from clay faces perspective

Maybe but I think that's the way they're gonna do it I think James Gunn is smart enough and so is um, who's making this again? Goddamn the DC Universe No, no the guy Peter Safran. No, he's a man. Saf the guy who wrote it He did like Midnight Mass and stuff. Oh, I think in my planning again We're like this either script is so good that you don't need Batman. Yes. Or he's in it. So true, isn't it?

So, yeah, that's what I think. But I mean, you know, the Penguin worked as a, you know... Yeah. I mean, it's, you know... I mean, they'd already established the universe. No, that's true. I mean, it's apples and oranges, I understand, but just the basic premise of people do enjoy if you show a bad guy who isn't an anti-hero, who isn't immediately redeemed or has never done anything good, or has never done anything bad in the

first place. We don't need a spum, we don't need a spum style clay face. He can just be a bad guy and if that is compelling, that works. A tragic character. Could be tragic. Is doing good. Yes, that's right right and he actually doesn't like murderers yeah and he doesn't use his clay face powers why would he cuz they're because he hasn't got them yet he hasn't got them yet sure he'll earn

them at the end yeah you know you go to an art supply store and get a big brick of clay and bite into it I hope this gives me clay face powers he'll say. Credits. Yeah. Next thing. Here's an email from James. That's me. Hello James and Mace.

So I've recently subscribed to Big Sandwich. I'm on that. I've been listening through the backlog of all of our podcasts. In one of the Q&A's, Mason mentioned he's enjoying silent films and wishes there were more modern ones. Did I? Okay, great. You don't. So I was wondering if he had heard of- You're probably trying to be arty and gay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was wondering if he had heard of or seen Hundreds of Beavers, a black and white silent slapstick comedy film about a man trying to kill hundreds of beavers. I haven't seen it, but I've seen the trailer. I've seen it so many times. Have you actually seen it? Yeah, so, yep. And I've heard of it. Interesting. So I haven't seen-

But what would you think it was about? It's about exactly what he said. And you've seen it too? No, I haven't seen it, but I would like to see it. Okay haven't. What would you think it was about? It's about exactly what he said. And you've seen it too. No, I haven't seen it, but I would like to see it. Okay, cool. It's available on streaming now. It wasn't available in Australia for a long time. And it's new, isn't it? It is new. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, okay. And what do the beavers look like? Beavers? That's wrong. They're men in beaver costumes. Give it a quick Google. That's a me. I don't need to Google it. I will if it makes you happy. It does actually.

What's it called again? Hundreds of beavers. Yeah, I know. Apparently it's very funny. I'm looking forward to Google it. I will if it makes you happy. It does actually. What's it called again? Hundreds of Babies. Yeah, I know. Apparently it's very funny. I'm looking forward to seeing it actually. 2022. Yeah. OK. I'll check it out again.

You should check it out again. OK. Why am I pretending I've seen this? I don't know. It's from 2024 actually. Yeah, cool. And you like silent movies, don't you? Apparently I do.

Yeah. Some Raymond Townsley. I'm looking forward to Nosferatu, which is getting a release in America now, I think. And it's not out January 1st. January 1st for us. Yeah. We've got a lot of stuff to talk about when we come back. I hope so. Do you think in our personal lives?

No. Raymond Townsley says, is June the new Star Wars? I ask because the pupils I teach in multiple classes are more interested in June than Star Wars. They couldn't tell you a new Star Wars product but discuss Dune lore on the TV series. Interesting you say Star Wars product as well. That's fun. I didn't say that. He said it.

Yeah, I said it, but they're not my words. You know that, right? I do know that. Is it... I don't know if Dune... I don't think it can be in terms of like like merch and spin-offs and kids don't like it It's not like it. I know it. No, I think it's yeah, it could be it's big But I don't think you could ever be star babies

Sandy babies sandy babies. I got sand in me. I'm a baby. Correct. Yes. Yeah, ah Stellan scarcic. I was a big sandy baby. Skarsgård's a big sandy baby. It's true. He's a big oily baby. He's oily. He's an oily baby. He's floating around, isn't he? Ah, I don't know. I think...

I think it can be a sci-fi epic. Yeah, Dune is missing the element of fun, I think, that Star Wars has, I think. It's sometimes missing, but I don't know. It's like Star Wars to me, the best of it is kind of a swashbuckling epic Yeah, don't get that with do not even and or because that one's about prisons and capitalism That's not about swashbuckling buckling about shooting a guy. You don't like that's true a little bit Yeah, you don't like him a little bit and that's enough. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I think yeah I I mean presumably you've got a teenage

Yeah, I think, yeah, I mean, presumably you've got a teenage. Presumably. Presumably, you're either teaching teenagers or people at like college level. I imagine you're not primary school, but no, I don't know. Yep. It can be big. It can be big. But that's it. It can be big.

That's all I'll say. And here's one more post. This is from the Great Mates Facebook group. Okay. This is from Anthony. I'll ask until I hear it on the pod who would win in a fight you now or your dad at your current age Fuck that's a good question me easily. I don't know. I got moves that guy doesn't even know. Yeah, what do you got? What's that this you're gonna kiss him? I? Think yes, I'm stronger than my dad was at my age

Yeah, right because he's one of those guys who, like he's always been- He's bigger than you. Yeah, not by much. But think about, I'm 41 and he's 41, if he was 41. I don't think he was working, he was doing a corporate job at that point, though he was still firefighting. And so yeah, he had a level of fitness. But once he told me he stopped going to the gym after a few weeks, as he said, it made him go get weaker.

And I'm like, I don't know what you did. Yeah, right. But of what you're talking about. He snapped his legs on a weight machine. I think I could probably beat my dad just through strength. I think my dad would be physically stronger. But I would have like, I could choke him out. I could choke him out easily. We should do that. I think what? Go back in time and fight our dads.

I guess we could. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something to think about that. That's a great question. Remember this would be what the 40s? I think, yeah. Yeah. I think my dad, 90s. I think my dad is that would be still doing all these doing all school punching He's doing punchy. They were expecting a punch in a block I think I could like lift my dad off the ground and slam him into the ground. I think I could actually do that I think that wouldn't be a problem for me. Yeah, all right, like ethically or physically. Yeah Yeah, I would if I could beat up your dad easily now on now. Yeah Dragon you could beat up my dad at your age your current

your dad's current age no no no uh if he was your age yeah probably all right let's set it up all right let's let's fire up the old make it happen yeah yeah we don't often delve into verses outside of the episodes that we do but that was true. But that was a really good one. This is compelling, I think. That was a good one. Yeah. Yeah. What about this for the last letter of the year, unless you've got another one.

I don't. This is from Audrey who says, what are you getting for yourselves for Christmas this year? Nothing. Interesting. I don't, I have everything that I need. Yeah. Which sounds ridiculous. I don't obviously. I would love a boat need. Yeah. Sounds ridiculous.

I don't obviously. I would love a boat. You'd love a boat. Yeah, I'll just take one. I wouldn't use it, but I'll take it. All right. Or a hang glider. What I do is I just wait for like, because I just buy a bunch of stuff on the internet

and whatever jacket or watch or whatever arrives the day before Christmas, I'm like, that's my present to myself. Good for you. You want it. Yeah, I did earn it. So yeah, that's a good thing about being an adult and having some money for me. I don't know. Not everybody has this luxury, but I'm not, I don't make extravagant purchases. Like I don't, I'm not doing anything. Am I ever, what am I ever doing? I'm in this room is filled with Daytona machines.

And vomit. And then, well, yeah, cause we're going to, we ate gonna we ate we ate you know popcorn and cotton candy and then we got on the Daytona machines and we whizz around and we vomit you know we put them on wheels yeah we put on a Daytona machine we zip around and we have VR headsets on playing different games yeah it's good we have fun I like to think we have fun I should buy myself something big and nice Mason yeah I probably shouldn't actually I'm not gonna That's the show. That is the whole show. Yes, folks. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you for listening throughout the year What a year it's been. Yep. I mean we didn't really remember but it all the memories came rushing back all at once. That's right

Yeah, ah, it was too many. Yeah. Mm-hmm We're like one of those thrillers where we get all our memories back at once Yeah, the one way Hugh Jackman thinks about his memories. That movie? Perseverance? Yeah. Perseverance? Yeah. Transcendence?

Mm-hmm, yep. Time brain. Time brain. Hugh Jackman's time brain. I'm remembering everything at once. That's because we've given you a time brain. But how do I remember that I'm in the future? How am I remembering the future? That's artistic, I think.

Is that because all time occurs at the same time? No, we gave you a time brain. Oh, oh, that's, that's what settles it then. That's good. Yeah, it's good. Folks, thank you for telling your friends about the podcast, because that is how we get new listeners and thank you for leaving a five star review on any podcatcher of choice.

You can do this a month or a week. You can do it every day. That's true. It says, I get all my, this one's from... At least you could bloody do your Transformers fans. I know, right? Yeah. Getting in here. Yeah. Bitter Maloney who says...

Oh, that sounds like a Transformers fan. I agree. I get all my opinions from these guys. I don't know or care about movies or comics or TV shows, but I love this podcast. Just two great mates having a great time and telling me about their special interests. It's nice and I like it. I would love to know what their favorite flowers and smells are. Vanilla? Lasagna. All right. The lasagna flower. Yeah. Anyways, thank you guys for providing a comforting soundtrack to daily life and for talking about all

the latest movies and TV shows because I literally would never hear about them otherwise. Also waffles. Have a lovely rest of your day. Waffles, that's a good smell. But it's saying that like I wouldn't hear about all this stuff, but you don't have to hear about all this stuff. That's true actually. Most of the people you're better off.

I agree. This one's from the Jack16 who says, help me get to Saturn. Three French ladies talking about astrology, five stars. Yep, I'll take it. Yeah, whatever. Five stars, man. We don't care. Folks, if you want to get into contact with us.

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That's right. Upcoming. Yeah. He's like like I was on Terriers and I'm like I know I love that. Gotham. Gotham yeah you're Bullock. You're Bullock. You're in Blade. You're in Blade. Blade 2 or Blade 1. Blade 1 I think. You tell us. They push yet against the train. We haven't reported them yet. No we're just gonna see how we go. We're gonna see how long this lasts. We're gonna get him. Yeah we get him. Yeah. Folks tell you what thank you to the Brood and the Bastards from Rackham for a We're just gonna see how we go. We're gonna see how long this last. We're gonna get him. Yeah, we'll get him. Yeah. Folks, tell you what, thank you to the Bruton and the Baskets from Rackham for the musical theme.

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We don't even care. That's right. We don't care at all. You should though. It's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good. Yeah. You treat yourself to a t-shirt with us on it. Yeah, that's right. We do. Yeah, we do.

Yeah. God. Is that it? That's everything, I think. I mean, I just want to say thank you again to everybody for continuing to listen to this. Yeah. We don't- We know it's a chore sometimes.

It must be. It has to be. Yeah. But I really enjoy doing it. I love that this is my job. I love doing this with you, Nick Mason. That's right. And he pointed at me this time.

I did. You didn't point to the poster of the guy from Pink Floyd that he's got on the wall. No, that's behind you. I've moved it. Oh, man. But I know how it'll be here. Maybe I'll tell you all about it some other time, but like touring around and just a bunch of stuff going on, it's been good.

And I just, I really appreciate being afforded the opportunity to do this. It's like, it's so free. I know I say this every year, but it's so freeing in my life to be able to spend time with my family and all of these. Like I have, this is such a gift to be able to do this. You're welcome. And I hope it never stops because I'll have to get a real job. We hope the grift never stops, folks.

Thank you. And yes, we will pivot to right-wing grifting. We'll do it in a heartbeat. It doesn't matter how hard we push the other, we can just turn it around. We can turn it around. It doesn't matter. The left pushed us right, we'll say. That's what they did to us.

They went too woke and they did too many gender-neutral bathrooms. That's right. The bathrooms in my house aren't even gender neutral. I've made sure I've got one for everybody. That's how far I've gone. Anyways, I appreciate it and I am looking forward to a break. We don't have to see each other for a month, I guess. We probably will. We'll go to Red Rooster. We will. Let's go right now. All right. Thanks everyone. Grab that gym. You guys will see in 2025. Bye. Hey, it's Mitch from side note podcast, and I'm here to tell you about the new Google

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