The Weekly Planet - 57 Marvel's New Line-Up & The Films Of Christopher Nolan

Episode Date: November 3, 2014

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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet Official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com My name is James, editor at that website With me as always is my co-host Nicholas Halloween Mason? I don't know, it's Halloween It is Halloween, you know what, and I just remembered A listener of the show

Made some very special jack-o'-lanterns. Is this Junk Denate? At Junk Denate. Yes. Yeah, I've got that here. Nathan and his girlfriend. Yep. They made special Weekly Planet themed jack-o'-lanterns.

Yes. Thanos on one side. Yep. Our dumb catchphrase, grab that gem on the other. So thank you very much for that. It's very exciting. That made my day. That's my favourite.

Yep. Yeah. I was thinking as well, I'm building a website at the moment, the MrSundayMovies.com. If you go to that website, it says maintenance mode. There is nothing there. Great. But go, you know, check it out. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. But I was thinking I'm putting like a fan art page. Oh, that's exciting. Because people will send a lot of stuff. Remember I mentioned like, I need a new logo or whatever. People like, dozens of people have been sending me stuff um

it doesn't matter it's not important it's very late we're recording this very late weekly planet after dark things are gonna get real smooth

real bloody smooth just imagine we've got little little round glasses on and berets you know what you know sometimes you listen to a podcast and clearly both the hosts Just imagine we've got little round glasses on and berets. You know what?

You know, sometimes you listen to a podcast and clearly both the hosts are bringing their A game. Yes. And it's very exciting, but in many ways it's too intense. Yes. And sometimes you're like, I really wish they would bring it down to like their B game or their C game so I could just finally get some sleep. Like maybe, for example...

This is the podcast for you. That's right. Maybe one of them went out all day drinking and then came home and had a nap and then slapped together what we were doing for the podcast uh-huh like what do you like that yeah okay great what did you do today i had a really big pizza way too much you snuck in a nap though, didn't you? Yeah. A post-pizza nap. That exact amount of nap where you wake up and you've hit that weird point at your REM sleep where you're really drowsy, just drooling on the pillow. That's where I am right now.

So anyway. On with the show. Yes. You're familiar with Gambit, the X-Men character man? Yes. He throws cards? Yes. He guarantees cards? Yes. He guarantees it?

Oh, yes. Now I'm on board, yes. Well, the Robocop writer, Josh Zetumer... Zetumer? He's a guy... I feel at this point, let's be one and done with pronunciation of names. Don't think about it. Just go over it.

Just go with the first one. Okay, gotcha. Just steamroll over it. That guy said, whatever the first one was, he liked Robocop okay, right? I did, yeah. Yeah, the new one. We're talking about the new one. He's confirmed to be writing the Gambit solo movie,

which is coming at some point after X-Men Apocalypse. We don't know when. Maybe a week, maybe a month. We don't know where. Probably cinemas everywhere. A cinema near you. Yes, definitely a cinema near you a lot of people didn't love the new robocop i didn't mind it i think it's better it's way better than it should

be yeah i had to think we mentioned on the podcast i think when we reviewed it and i just it just came to me like yesterday i was thinking about that that i feel that the the key the point where you're either on board with that movie or you're not is the point where somebody mentions that his guns have a stun mode. Yes. And I think for a lot of people, they were like, nope, Robocop shouldn't have a stun mode. He's shooting dicks. Yes.

It should be a thousand rounds a minute and just people being chewed up, you know? Yeah. There's none of this stun nonsense. Yeah. It's infinitely better than it should be. And I think some of the writing in that is very clever, like that kind of man turning into a machine kind of stuff.

So I think that's a good choice, this guy. For a guy who throws cards. He's fairly cut and dried, though, Gambit, right? Yeah. He's a lovable rogue. I think people like... And that stick's got a pointy end. Does it?

Yeah. I didn't know that. For picking up cards. Yeah, for picking up cards, yeah. And turning sausages on a barbecue. I think people like Gambit more. And picking up rubbish. Yeah, sure. Like he's doing public service. Yes.

Are there any definitive Gambit stories that come to mind for you? What comes to me is the X-Men cartoon. Yes. I think that's what most people love him for. I'm sure there are good examples in the comics. And his turn in x-men origins wolverine origins that fantastic where he did the what did he do i there was a fight in an alley or something yeah and he and he played cards oh great because he's gambit so gambiting i feel like when i think of gambit in

the in the comics and i don't know if you ever actually did that but i but i always get the sense of him just like trying to steal everybody's girlfriend. That was part of his character, wasn't it? Like, he's always trying to steal Jean Grey and Rogue and Jubilee and whatever. But, like, ineffectively? I don't even know. Maybe effectively?

Sure. Do you think of... I don't care about this character at all. Do you care about his weird cut-out sock mask? Yeah, the sock mask. The 90s sock mask. They were very popular back then. Don't see them anymore.

You don't. Did he have that in the movie? No, he didn't. Yeah. You wouldn't try it. He had a stick. Yeah. But I don't think one end was even pointy.

Wow. He was turning no sausages. But anyway, irrelevant. Next up, badass digest claims. I shouldn't have i did the re-pronunciation it's okay that's okay this is this is the adjustment episode okay good next week no apologies yes currently uh they claim that there's a spider-man spin-off in the works an all-female spider-man spin-off called or it's dubbed at the moment glass ceiling

oh that's their code yeah i would be very surprised if that was sure it's dubbed at the moment, Glass Ceiling. Oh, that's their code name. Yeah, I would be very surprised if that was. Sure. It's clearly not. It's a team-up movie that would feature all female Spider-Man characters. It's unknown which characters will be included in the film, but a few possibilities could include. So I'm assuming this is just the website's suggestions.

Spider-Girl, Firestar, Black Cat, and some other versions of, like, Spider-Woman, and whatever, Silk, Silver Sable. Okay. I don't know. Firestar Black Cat and some other versions of like Spider Woman like and whatever Silk Silver Sable okay I don't know

they've just this is another one where they've just gone list of Wikipedia list of female Spider-Man supporting characters and then just

put them in the list yeah I'd imagine so yeah where are these characters going to come from in that Spider-Man universe

good question well okay Black Cat's in it sure yeah that's all we've got I guess Where are these characters going to come from in that Spider-Man universe? Good question Well, okay Black cats in it Sure, yeah That's all we've got I guess there's a lot of stuff in that Oscorp basement Clearly Like there's a lot of equipment that got raided real quick

There's a lot of origins There's so many origins in that Yeah Maybe like, you know, A band of misfit teens You know Like on Spring break Like the Runaways or whatever

Yeah They'll all fall into the Oscorp basement Like they're on a school tour And they all fall into the Oscorp basement And they all get on Origin Sure That'll work

Whatever Good Look I don't If there's a title card That just opens with that Some chicks fell in Fell in the old school basement

Whatever Now they've got powers or something I'd watch that actually I'd be like that's bold I respect your Yeah Your approach But

Look they're always talking about Spin-offs for Spider-Man movies Yep How about just make a good Spider-Man movie that people like Yeah And then Maybe then focus on spin-offs Yeah maybe Insert some interesting Spinoffs for Spider-Man movies. Yep. How about just make a good Spider-Man movie that people like? And then, maybe then focus on spinoffs.

Yeah, maybe insert some interesting, some characters that are interesting on their own. Yeah. And if we, the audience, like them. Yes. Give them a spinoff. Like Jinx in Die Another Day. Definitely. Yep.

I think also you can tell in a movie where you're like, well, that's clearly, they're making a spinoff character there. Definitely. But has that ever worked uh where they've intentionally done it and then it spun off well mork and mindy okay i don't think that was an intentional no i don't think so either uh in a movie i'm talking about no i think you yeah they probably there are probably examples email mason no don't please don't. Please don't. Yeah, I mean, TV-wise, you know, The Flash. Yeah, they do that. Yeah.

Et cetera, et cetera. But that... Like Supernatural did one which didn't get picked up and whatever. Yeah, people do... It was an X-Files spin-off. Oh, The Lone Gunman. No, it was just called Scully. And she was just like... Just people coming like just people coming

just people calling her office it's set in between X-Files episodes like it's Mulder's gone off on vacation or whatever and it's just

Scully picking up the phone X-Files division is Mulder there? no I was there some sort of some sort of

spectral apparition floating around your house yeah it's not real don't even worry about it. You've probably been hallucinating. See a doctor or something. Okay, bye. I should have picked a more obscure character like Krychek or something.

Sure. But anyway, whatever. Welcome back, Krychek. He goes back to teach at the elementary school where he grew up. Was he a bad guy? Yeah good for him now this is some james cameron news sort of not really i don't know why i included it but i'm gonna bring it up anyway james cameron is apparently unimpressed with virtual reality technology you know like the oculus rift oh yes where you put on a screen on your face and you're like look at all the immersion oh yeah you yell that's how you started

up that's right yeah it's like they're siri yeah he is his quote is that there seems to be a lot of excitement around it that's something to me uh to me is a yawn frankly so this is from the guy who brought us 3d in a big way but i would argue that oculus rift stuff not that I've ever even tried one but I'm way more on board with that than I am crap 3D or regular 3D headache inducing 3D films I mean it was 2009 and we're still getting it like leave us alone with the 3D

I mean come on it's been like 5 years or 6 years or whatever I know right 3D was a big thing in the 50s I think and then it died out again so however long that lasted Well, 3D was a big thing in the 50s, I think, and then it died out again. Yeah. So, however long that lasted, surely we're up to that, right? Hopefully, yeah, yeah.

I feel like, I don't know, is it less and less being forced when you go to the cinema? Yes, I think it is. Yeah. I think there was a couple of years where every film, it was 3D or nothing. Yeah. But I find a lot now, there is always a 2D option yeah for that film

yeah yeah so generally yeah definitely yeah depending on your cinema are you spinning this off into Terminator news oh no but I can

sure let's talk man Terminating Terminator Genesis the reboot because there was some news about it this week yeah

that well there was there's some pictures yeah there's some like promotional photos doctor who yeah doctor who's in it our favorite doctor who yes big hair doctor oh they've all got big hair now um but they're all just they're all just firing guns wildly yeah there's no aiming at all which is pretty good like yeah you actually get a look at Arnold, though. Like, old Terminator. You do. And the...

See, I wasn't on board, but I think the conceit is quite clever. Yeah. Like, the premise now is that Kyle Reese has gone back in time to find Sarah Connor again. Yeah. But he somehow ended up... This time it's personal? Yeah, this time it's definitely personal. Sure. But they've done it Star Trek-wise in that it appears that the Time War has altered the timeline enough

so that Sarah Connor was orphaned by a Terminator when she was nine. Oh, okay. And a good T-800 Arnold Schwarzenegger Terminator was sent back to raise her. Oh, okay. Which is why he's old now. Oh, okay. Because he's been there for a few decades. I thought he'd overshot his mark.

That's what I thought. I assume now. I didn't know that. Well, maybe that's the case. But yeah, so that explains, like the organic parts have gotten real old and fat, you know? Which I think is quite a clever conceit. And then you can't be like, oh, well, I look pretty old now. You're all because he is old.

Yeah, that's right but there is apparently a scene where they redo the first scene in Terminator one of the first scenes where he beats up the punks oh yes

or whatever where now he just gives them a stern talking to yeah tells them to get better health insurance yeah so look

I'm okay with it I think I'll be interested to see what they do with it because you know what I don't care whether it works or not. The Terminator franchise is dead. And if it stays dead, great.

If it gets slightly more interesting, great. Yes. Whatever. So yeah. And that's what's her face from Game of Thrones, right? Yeah. Okay, good. Game of Thrones, that's her name.

Yeah. Real life actress, Game of Thrones. So yeah, great. Good stuff on Terminating Genesis. Yes. Cease. Supergirl series. Oh, yes. You know how they're Genesis. Yes. Cease. Super Girl series. Oh, yes.

You know, they're doing that or whatever. Have they picked a name yet? No, I don't think so. At one point, it was a choice between Super or Girl. Do you remember that? No. People were speculating. It might be called Super.

But you can't call it Super Girl because that would be ridiculous. Yeah, I guess it would be. It's way less ridiculous than just calling a show Girl. They were just going to call it Girl. That was an option. I mean, it's quite similar to the show Girl. I was going would be. It's way less ridiculous than just calling a show girl. Is that what you used to say? I was just going to call it girl. That was an option. I mean, it's quite similar to the show Girls, which has markedly different content, I would assume.

Yes. Never seen Girls, have you? You've seen it? Not seen it? No, I saw like half an episode. Sure. It's well written or whatever, but it's frustrating to watch. But they're written in a way that like these people are the worst.

Oh, they're very unpleasant, right? So, yeah. But it's supposed to be that way. written in a way that like these people are the worst oh they're very unpleasant right so yeah but it's supposed to be that way so like I guess they win I guess yeah well done

but yeah okay so basically the idea is now that Kara yes this is the new mythology they reckon that at age 12 she was sent from her dying

planet of Krypton to Earth where she was taken in from the taken in by the Danvers and the Foster family taught her to be careful and be like, what's your powers, whatever, you know,

hide yourself, blah. And then she represses her skills for a decade, and then she has to use her skills in public, and then she's like, now I can be a hero. And then she becomes a hero. What a refreshing reboot. What a refreshing new take on that character.

Grows up, has some powers, uses them powers love it great because she normally she comes to earth fully fully a supergirl yeah yeah so but i guess like that's not as relatable if you've got like a you know a mid or an early 20s girl who's from another planet but if you've got like she grew up with all the problems that a regular teenage girl has or whatever, you know? Frenemies. Frenemies. Being able to throw someone through a wall.

All the regular powers of a teenager. They're also looking to cast Jimmy Olsen. Pinterest. She's got a Pinterest account. Yeah, Jimmy Olsen. Etsy. What is that? It's like eBay, but for craft.

You make craft stuff, you put it on there. No, thank you. Have you been there? What's going on there? What kind of craft? I don't know, like a crocheted tea cozy. Okay. I don't know.

All right, I'm on board. Yeah. If it's useless and it's knitted, you can find it on Etsy. That's their slogan. People are doing that in my area, like knitting crochet things for trees. That's weird, because there are hot singles in my area. I don't know. But, you know, like if you say that, we live in a similar-ish area.

Oh, that people like crochet around a tree or whatever. Okay. I don't think they're selling that. No, I don't. You know what? I bet there's something on there. Yeah. But anyway, whatever.

And also Jimmy Olsen and Hank Henshaw. There's some other names as well, but they're kind of the main ones that stand out. Classic villain, Jimmy Olsen. Classic, kind of nerdy, maybe he won't be nerdy. Get somebody, get an actor, it doesn't matter. Matt Smith. Oh, yeah. He'd be good Jimmy Olsen.

Who cares? There we go, exactly. I like Jimmy Olsen, but I wish he was completely different. I don't know. Krypton TV series. Remember we talked about that? Have we talked about that? Oh, they're talking about maybe doing... No, I don't remember.

We probably have, but I don't remember. Okay. I don't remember whether we have, actually. Okay. But basically, they're talking about maybe doing a Krypton series that is just set on Krypton before Krypton explodes. Not during or after. Oh, sure. Just people clinging to meteors

spinning through space. They talk a lot. DC talk a lot of stuff, don't they? They do. They never get around to it. Yeah. Well, there was supposed to be

that Batman Origins series. Remember that before Smallville never happened? Yep, I remember that. And then they made Gotham. I'm okay with Gotham. Harvey Bullock's great. Yeah, true.

He really redeems a lot of that. And last week they had a killer called, I can't remember, the Goatman or something. I don't know. But it was really interesting. It was like this mythology of this Goatman who came back and Bullock killed him the first time, then he comes back. And there's no, I don't think there's any Jada Pinkett Smith.

Oh, things are looking up. That's picture interest. Yeah, see, I feel that they have, the two main guys have quite a good dynamic. Yeah, they do, yeah. But the rest, I don't know. You don't want to see Bruce Wayne putting his hand over a candle or putting together a crazy serial killer board. While listening to metal music, generic metal music. I don't know if I do.

Oh boy. Anyway, Crypt on TV series, maybe. They say that David Goyya is attached and he did the batman movies and he'll be attached for one episode yeah maybe yeah and also i don't think they're gonna do it because a lot of sets a lot of sets a lot of special effects a lot of costumes that are not gonna look good yeah good point they should just use the costumes from the original superman just like a weird shiny white jumpsuit. Yep, definitely.

Ill-fitting. Yep. Weird kind of glass room or whatever. Detachable S on the back. Yes. Throwing them around. It'd be like Tron, but they're just throwing detachable S's at each other. Tron's aged really well, hasn't it?

Nope. That was a trick. Didn't fall for it. I can't believe they made a Tron sequel. That's crazy, right? No, I quite like the Tron sequel. We've fall for it. I can't believe they made a Tron sequel. That's crazy, right? No, I quite like the Tron sequel. We've talked about it. Yeah, I know, but the fact that it got made is mental.

Yeah, I guess so. I feel the fact that Disney have enough money to buy Marvel is amazing. Yes. If you discount Pixar... Yeah. What... Merchandise. Yeah, yeah i guess so but i mean what have you seen the goof troop movie oh that made 82 billion dollars worldwide impressive

yeah no i don't know it's just it's all merchandise i'd imagine that's where they make their money that's how we make our money we get that guy to carve the pumpkins and we sell what's a pumpkin cost i hope you didn't waste too much money on that pumpkin. I don't know. Yeah. I never bought a pumpkin. You should eat more pumpkin. I should.

It's important. Yeah. You know what we were saying? Tron. Tron. And, no, wait. And reverse. No, you were talking about Tron.

Yeah, but Tron, you were saying, like, you're amazing at Marvel. I'm saying amazing Disney has enough money to buy Marvel when, like, what, what is Disney's...

And Star Wars. Yeah, like pre-Pixar, what did Disney do? Well, they had a good run in the 90s. Yeah, I guess so. Like Beauty and the Beast and all those things. Yeah, yeah. Okay, right. Carry on then.

You're okay with it? Yeah. Pirates movies. Oh, yeah. They made a lot of money. Yeah, okay. Anyway, whatever. Krypton, great, whatever. Okay, now people... made a lot of money. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. Krypton, great, whatever.

Okay, now people... Not happening. I'm putting my foot down. You're going to stop it? Yeah, I'll stop it. Okay, good. Age of Ultron. Big Age of Ultron news this week.

And big Marvel news. It's still happening. Yes, it is. Now, people said we... What was it? Like, maybe just do an episode on that. We probably should have. Well, I said we should... What was it? Like, maybe just do an episode on that. We probably should have. Well, I said we'd talk about Christopher Nolan.

So, we'll do both. Yeah, let's do both. It's half and half. I'll be honest, I don't have that much to say about Christopher Nolan. Sure. You like him? Yeah, I do. All right, then it'll just be me talking then.

Fantastic. She's bad, you'll say. All right. Okay, so first of all, there was a new Age of Ultron footage which came with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Did you watch that? Yeah. They're partying around. They're having a party. Oh, yes. They came with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Did you watch that? Yeah. They're partying around.

They're having a party. Oh, yes. They were trying to lift the hammer. Can't lift the hammer. Can't lift it. Yeah. Captain America shifts it. Yeah.

But then he can't lift it. I'm surprised he can't lift it. Well, maybe not yet. Yeah. But why is... He's better than Thor. He's a better guy than Thor. Yeah, but it's not about being a better guy.

It's being like... He's got the best hair. Yeah, best hair and like being very specifically the best kind of space Norse warrior. Oh, okay. That's why Storm can lift it then. Correct. Yeah. Okay, so it's like, is it like whoever needs it at that point in time kind of thing?

Like the Gryffindor sword? It's exactly like the Gryffindor sword it's exactly like the gryffindor sword because you can kill a big snake with it and pull it out of a hat yeah hats and snakes okay good i don't know what you're referring to but i i agree we saw harry potter too i don't remember he fights a snake and a fucking diary don't you remember no he fights a ghost in a diary and he fights a ghost in a diary and then he kills a snake with a sword he pulls out of an old hat. You know, when you summarise those Harry Potter movies, they sound a bit silly, don't they? Sure.

Yeah. What are we talking about? Hats. Okay, good. No. Is Thor going to wear his hat again? Give him his hat. Just let me see his hat again.

I'm not even for his hat. I don't even like it that much, but I want to see it again because it looks kind of dumb so let me see it okay all right okay fair yeah i think that's fair someone had a question last week about who's got the worst hat in the marvel universe remember someone sent in oh yeah sure it's cinematic it's thor it's thor's little hat yeah yeah great okay but new age of ultra footage, what did you think of it and whatever? Good. Great. Excellent. Caleb A. is written in, right?

He's the official Ben Affleck of the show. Good call. He's great. He makes a good point, but I think we can answer this. That why doesn't Thor smash Ultron when he's like, look at me, I'm a robot. Sure. Why doesn't somebody kill him straight away? Be like, remember that time that robot attacked attacked and it's just like a weird memory that

they have they're like yeah that was odd for that second that it distracted us but i'd imagine that it can jump from body to body true yeah yeah that's true like some kind of harry potter also potentially because we don't we don't know how that scene ends yeah potentially Stark's like oh wait don't kill it yeah hear it out it's real cool let it

yeah let it threaten us let it threaten us for a bit let this weird robot monster creature that's clearly torn its own face open let's see what it has to say

maybe I can sell this yeah maybe I can market this Disney style sure sell some lunchbox yeah absolutely did you um see there was also a leaked clip from marvel's uh big press conference where they announced all their film slate which we will now talk about i didn't see that clip but if i could guess how it goes sure

there is a forever yeah okay good it's's basically Tony Stark and Captain America Chopping wood Ah okay yep And there's basically An argument Like that kind of Leads up to Civil War Where they have a disagreement About Tony Stark's like

You should step in And stop things Before they happen And Captain America's like Shut up Great I don't think that Also

On a different note Chris Evans is way better Than chopping wood At Robert Downey Jr Like he looks better Yeah he would. Like, he can do it. Absolutely, yeah.

Just saying. Well, that would make sense, but that's probably just acting. Sure. I mean, Robert Downey Jr. may very well in real life be better at chopping wood than Chris Evans, but he's a great actor, so we would act like he's worse because Steve Rogers has the super soldier formula, right? Good point. Thank you.

Well done. Anyway, film slate. we'll just we'll rattle them off and go through them and say what we think of them let's do that first one was announced they actually announced it as captain america serpent society yeah that's pretty good sneaky never heard of that looked it up i was like oh yeah that would be pretty pretty great there is that what is that that popular um conspiracy theory that all the great leaders of the world are lizard people? Yes, sure. Would you buy into that?

No. Okay, good. Silly. That's what they want you to think. It's a real Harry Potter situation. By that I mean a bit silly. But yeah, Captain America Civil War confirmed. There we go.

Which is odd that it wasn't. I mean, it wasn't confirmed. But when they confirmed it, I was like, yeah. It's definitely been confirmed. Obviously, idiots. Which is odd that it was. I mean, it wasn't confirmed. But when they confirmed it, I was like, yeah. It's definitely been confirmed. Obviously, idiots. Yeah. So, that's great. Great start.

Followed by Doctor Strange in 2016. Benedict Cumberbatch confirmed. Not confirmed. Really? He's been unconfirmed? He's been... No, because they didn't announce it. He's been heavily rumoured.

Oh, okay. And they didn't announce it. Because that's been thrown around as like... Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's a lock. Apparently, well, the rumour is that it's like final negotiations. Right, okay.

You don't like him for the role, though. You're against it. Was I against it? You said featureless face. Look, I say a lot of things on this. I think whoever it turns out to be will be fine. Sure. Yeah, unless he demands...

Unless he demands a plane. Yeah. But I mean, what are the odds? Yeah. You know, like, I'll get to be in this movie that'll make a billion dollars. Mm. But I'll want a big bowl of M&M's with all the brown ones removed in the trailer. Yeah.

They'll be like, you're out. You're out, Cumberbatch. I think I prefer him to Wacken Phoenix. Okay. All right. I like Wacken Phoenix, but I don't know. I feel like he's way too serious like he takes himself way too seriously oh yeah i get you yeah not that i know anything

about cumberbatch maybe he also takes himself seriously but he did put on a ping pong suit to play that cgi dragon so he can't take himself that seriously yeah in the hobbit oh right okay he's the dragon. Oh. Yeah. I thought you were talking about Harry Potter again. Or maybe. I don't know. A bit silly. Yeah, a bit silly.

All right. You know, on Sherlock, he's quite, you know. Yeah. He pokes fun at himself, so that's fine. I think he'll just do Sherlock with an American accent. Do you think he'll do an American accent? I think he'll have to. Won't he?

No, not necessarily. But he's from... Yeah, the character's American, but... Yeah. They might be like, well, he's magic. So English's american but yeah they might be like well he's magic so english accent that's how that's how hollywood works you're right yeah it's like oh this movie's set in ancient rome so english accent yes right you're right this guy's alan rickman and a villain english or german whatever yeah totally yeah uh guardians of galaxy 2 push English accent. Or German. Whatever. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Guardians of the Galaxy 2, push forward.

Move forward a month to May of 2017. Yeah. And if you look at the little title card thing, it's got like hand-drawn lettering of it. That's good. Because they're a ragtag bunch of misfits. Boy, are they. Yeah. Everyone else got like an official thing and that was good.

I mean, it's still official, obviously, but yeah, that's a nice little touch. People are really looking forward to that, including this guy. We'll talk about which...

What's he doing in here, that guy? Get out. Thor 3 in July 2017. Ragnarok. Yeah. I think it should be called Thor 3

because that's a fun little thing to say. Right? Sure. Thor 3. Have you read fun little thing to say right? sure Thor 3 have you read Ragnarok? I haven't read it oh no

yeah about gods and stuff a bit complicated a bit complicated I think too complicated for this podcast I think somebody wrote it and was like explain that

and I was like I don't really want to because then I'll have to look into it and I think Thor gets Odin's powers for a while and blah bitty blah what like one eye yeah one eye

his famous power of poor depth perception. And having Anthony Hopkins' face. Yeah. Great. Yeah, that... Look, I think I've said, look, I don't care

whether there's another Thor movie. But there is and that's fine. But apparently they said that this movie's going to do like what... for the universe, what Captain America did for the Earth universe.

Okay, sure. So I'd imagine there'll be like a big shift and maybe it'll be a cosmicky thing and Thanos will be Earth universe. Okay, sure. So I'd imagine there'll be like a big shift and maybe it'll be a cosmicky thing and Thanos will be involved. Maybe, yeah. I don't know. We'll never know in a way. It's impossible to ever tell. We'll both be dead.

Followed by that same year. So we've got three in a year, 2017. Black Panther in November. Yeah. That's pretty awesome. It's very exciting. Great concept art. Yeah, I was going to say, is it the only it's very exciting great concept art yeah yeah i was gonna say it's is it the only one that has its own concept i believe so yes was this concept art released during that yes okay yeah it's interesting that they were like this is the one we released the artwork for yeah i guess because black panthers were a real thing. Okay, sure. Like the rights movement thing.

So they had to be like, just so we're clear, this is a superhero thing. Yeah, absolutely. Just so we're, yeah. But it does look like, it does look good. People would confuse it with like Black Panthers were briefly in Forrest Gump. So I think people would be confused. Yeah, totally. Yeah.

Yeah, it looks really good. It's kind of like, it's a bit Batman-ish, the suit, which is kind of cool. It is a bit Batman-ish. It's form-fitting. It is form-fitting. And I think we talked about this when we talked about Ultron last week or the week before, whenever it was. We hate diversity. Yes, we do.

We hate that. We're in favour of it, just to be clear. We can take that clip out of context. Robert, just to be clear, so we can take that clip out of context, that they have to make... Marvel's all about making these uniforms and things personal. You can see the face. Yes. I think what they've got here is maybe... Because you can't see the mouth and all that sort of stuff.

I reckon you might be some sort of... The lower half of the mask dissolves or something like that. Okay, cool. So when he needs to talk, it goes away. Or breathe. Or breathe, certainly. But when he's out, you know, stalking his prey or what have you. Masks up.

Yeah, yeah, totally. Great. Looks good. Cool. No, I think it looks great. And of course they announced the actor, Chadwick Boseman, who was in the James Brown. Oh, the bio, yeah. Which I haven't watched.

Have you seen it? Yes. He's very good though, though, from all accounts. Yeah, great choice. I don't know. For some reason, I thought they'd go with like LL Cool J or something. Not here. That's a bad example.

I'm trying to think of somebody. Remember the guy, Digimon Hounsou? Yeah, I remember Digimon Hounsou. It was rumoured at one point. But he was in Guardians of the Galaxy. And I think he actually might be a bit old now anyway. So yeah, great choice. Could have also gone Chiwetel Ejiofor.

Yes. He would have been good. He would have been good. I'm in favour of him for everything. Yeah, absolutely. Pretty much at this point. Next Doctor would be good. Oh, like Doctor Who Doctor.

Yeah, the next Doctor Who. James Bond? Yeah, definitely. That would be good as well. Bloody Idris Elba. People are talking next Doctor Who James Bond yeah definitely that would be good as well bloody Idris Elba people talking about him for James Bond he'd be a great James Bond

yep yeah you know who else would be good who's that modern day Roger Moore yeah current Roger Moore would be really good

a lot of people want us to do a James Bond special yeah absolutely but you've said that you don't want to go and watch them all again look you know what you know what I've been doing

this week yes this is a coincidence. Watching James Bond films nonstop. Well, I mean, first of all, we've been playing some James Bond video games. Oh, yes. Because I figure, well, we'll do some James Bond stuff at some point for that video game thing we might do at some point.

Oh, yes. We keep threatening people with. But there's a podcast called James Bonding. I love James Bonding, yeah. It's great. And they just go through each episode. And I've listened to like three this week, which is annoying because now I've got another podcast I have to listen to.

I'm top of the ones that I already listen to. It's all right. They only update intermittently. Okay, great. Awesome. But that's a terrific show. And it makes me want to go back and watch more Bond, even though most of them are terrible.

They're terrible, but in a fun way. Sure. There's only a couple that are genuinely terrible And also not fun The Brosnan ones Gold Knives are alright Yeah The game Yeah

The movie's good too Next up Captain Marvel 2018 Yeah okay That's pretty awesome There's a tweet here I think this is the official Like tweet guy for this

Yeah And he's got And you better believe Hashtag Captain Marvel. Yeah, I do believe it. Like, why would I, why would that be the one that I'm not believing? Come on, mate. But also, they were clear in saying that it's Carol Danvers as well.

So, it's not the male original Captain Marvel. Correct. Or Shazam, who's in a different universe or whatever. So, yeah, that's great too. That is great, yeah. Katie Sackhoff has been, I know Joss Whedon's in favor of universe or whatever. So, yeah, that's great too. That is great, yeah. Katie Sackhoff has been... I know Joss Whedon's in favour of her. Yeah, cool.

I don't know whether she'd get it, but she's great. So that would be cool. Absolutely, yeah. More diversity and whatever, I guess. Sure. That's Marvel's slogan as well. Yes. More diversity or whatever?

Yeah. Great. It's good. It's interesting, though, that there's no Black Widow film in all of this. Yeah. Or Hulk movie. It's a really good point, actually. Or Hulk, yeah.

You know what I think, though? They'll turn out. And why I think this is more interesting to a lot of people than the DC slate, you know, of the movies that are coming out. Yeah. A, there seem to be more of these. Yes. Which is good.

Yeah. They're actually putting out a couple a year As opposed to one every two years Sometimes three Yeah, totally But also because They always are new Yes Morally

A lot of them are new Yeah And coming relatively soon Yeah Whereas DC Oh, 2018 That's quite a long way Almost all of that

We have seen in various incarnations Except for Cyborg Yeah Yeah, you're right Absolutely right. You know, we've seen... There's a current Flash TV series. There's a current Flash TV series.

We just saw Green Lantern. Yeah. As if we yesterday. Well, we sort of saw it. I didn't see it. You know, Wonder Woman we've seen, you know, TV and whatever. And they tried that reboot a while ago. So...

Sure, yeah. We all know... And even if you didn't see that you know that weird tv pilot reboot or whatever like you are 99 of people are familiar with say wonder more or whatever yeah nobody knows nobody knows this captain marvel no in the mainstream world nobody knows black panther no etc etc exactly people are more excited because this is this is new stuff they've they've done avengers they've done black widow and've done Black Widow and et cetera. And they're like, well, now you've accepted that this universe exists.

We're going to throw some more stuff at you and see how it feels. Absolutely. Yeah. Feels good, doesn't it? Yeah. I think I'm ripped to the face. Yeah. At the risk of pissing off anybody who loves DC movies and whatever.

I think this was a more exciting announcement for me because of all the reasons you said. Yes. But also because the way they announce it is way more interesting. Like the DC one, they just kind of, they're like, yeah, we had a board meeting and this is the movies that we have, which is great.

Like I'm looking forward to all those DC movies. But Marvel, the way they do it, they do it like an event, you know? They're like, we're having this press conference. They invite a whole bunch of press from wherever. Not us though, obviously we're from wherever. Yeah.

Could have brought us in. And you know, they bring out, you know, the head of Marvel, Kevin Feige, who's, who's great with the crowd.

And he clearly loves what he does. He's got that t-shirt cannon. Yes. But like, he loves what he does. And he, he clearly has a love for the characters and he has his personal favorites. And he, he, he knows what he's doing.

He's not just some CEO. Like, he's clearly a fan as well. And he likes bringing people new stuff and exciting stuff. Or he's not a fan, but he's a great actor. Like, maybe Robert Downey Jr. has taught him a thing or two about acting. Sure. So, that's... I think the way they do it is very exciting.

So, yeah. And I wonder as well, because, you know, the trailer got leaked last week, whether they were actually going to do this today. Yeah, good point. Like, have this conference. Or they maybe were going to do it next week or whatever. Yeah. Guess we'll never know.

No, we won't. But in a way, that's okay. Yeah, yeah. Next up, Inhumans 2018. Oh, see? Another new thing. Yeah. That's pretty great. There's actually... There's a movie before Captain Marvel. We'll come back to that. 2018. Oh, see, another new thing. Yeah. That's pretty great.

There's actually, there's a movie before Captain Marvel. We'll come back to that. Okay. But yeah. Oh, people were curious about Captain Marvel as well. Now, the idea was she was Ms. Marvel and then she took over. Ms. Marvel. She was Ms. Marvel.

Ms. Marvel, sorry. I apologize. And she took over. From the, well, there's been a lot of Captain Marvels. Yes. There's been a lot of Captain Marvels. Yes. There was the original who was a Kree soldier who was sent to Earth to investigate.

And he was given like human features. Investigate what? Earth. I'll just be like. Just Earth people. What's this? Yeah. Baseball.

Great. Great. What's this? That's also baseball. Yep. Yep. You just turned 360 degrees and you's just looking at baseball again. Then he was thrown into the negative zone and he could only get back by switching his molecules with Rick Jones.

When he clashed the Neger bands together, they were his... Oh, they were in Guardians of the Galaxy, weren't they? Yeah, yeah, they were. And then there was another Captain Marvel called Monica Rambeau who had different powers. She could, like, turn into energy. She took the name Photon and she was in Next Wave, which is a really good, very fun series. You should, like, a mini-series you should check out. Like a comic? It's a comic.

I don't read comics. Okay, you don't. It's called Next Wave. You should check that out. Okay, cool. It's funny. And, yeah, this is Ms. Marvel. She was an Air Force Captain. You should check that out. Okay, cool. It's funny. And yeah, this is Ms. Marvel.

She was an Air Force captain. She was caught in an explosion near the original Captain Marvel. Yeah. And she got cross-pollinated with Kree DNA. And so that's why she's got those superpowers. All that sweet stuff. Yeah. And that's why Rogue in the comic books is invulnerable and can fly and has superhuman strength, like permanently,

because she absorbed Ms. Marvel's powers, like permanently, for a while. So they're not big fans of each other. Sure. When you think about it. Good thing they're in different movie universes. Yeah, I know, right? Sparks would fly. Yeah, totally.

But then Ms. Marvel got her powers back. Now she's taken over the role of the previous Captain Marvel. So now she is Captain Marvel. Is anyone in that negative zone at the moment? Annihilus. Okay. He's bad news, though. You don't want to mess with that guy.

If you go in the negative zone, does it put you in a negative headspace? Yeah. That's not good. That's probably the worst part. A lot of road rage. You would not believe the road rage in the negative zone. So bad. So, yeah, after captain marvel uh in humans 2018

this was another one that was heavily rumored as well yeah they say that vin diesel is going to be black bolt oh yeah we've talked about that yeah okay basically they gave him group to be like just we want you on board just do this thing for now can you wait like four years or whatever so that's pretty great something different as well interesting also that in guardians galaxy he just talked yes in in humans he can't talk yeah exactly so people people wouldn't be like that's the tree yeah that's true yeah right yeah so that's pretty are they gonna be which one live on the moon oh we don't know okay i don't know yes though definitely yeah that'd be great where's black bolt from is he from the moon is we don't know okay i don't know yes though definitely yeah that'd be great where's

black bolt from is he from the moon is he a moon one uh yeah he's a moon one cool he's a moon one they're probably uh that's that's a good question are they gonna be because in the in the marvel in the comic book universe there's moon ones yes and there's earth ones yeah because they're like a one of the ways you become an inhuman is you get caught in this stuff called the Terrigen Mists. These mysterious mists. You go through them and you get the powers. Or you die.

One of those two options there. Okay. And like a Terrigen bomb was detonated in Chicago, I think. Okay. And then some people, A, died. And B, became inhumans. How big was this bomb? Pretty big. Okay. So a lot of people died. and B, became Inhumans. How big was this bomb? Pretty big.

Okay, so a lot of people died. Probably not that many. Okay, so a lot of people became Inhumans then. Not that many. A couple. But it was a big bomb. It was pretty big. Sure.

Yeah. But Marvel tend not to do... Marvel tend not to obliterate cities off the map. Yeah. But DC do. Yeah. They'll blow up a city. Quite a lot.

They've nuked a lot of cities. They'll knock down a city in a movie as well. They will. Oh boy. Anyway, I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, absolutely. I want to see good CGI animated hair. Of the one who's got the hair.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I think it'll be spawn capey, but better. Yes, absolutely. I think it'll be like Tangled. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I think it'll be spawn capey, but better. Yes, absolutely. I think it'll be like Tangled. That kind of physics. Oh, yes.

Expect that. Great. Yeah. I like Tangled. I think it's better than Frozen. That's just me. I haven't seen either of them. Because I'm an adult.

How do you like that? Now, these are the last two. But the first one actually becomes before Captain Marvel. It's Infinity Wars. Oh, sorry. The Avengers Infinity War Part 1 in May 2018. And then Part 2, May 2019. Exciting stuff.

Yes. Obviously, they're going to bring in Thanos and the gems. You saw the teaser. Or you saw a picture of the teaser. Yes. Where they show all the gems leading up, and people grabbing at them. Oh, absolutely, yeah. And then it shows...

As they should. Yes. As any sensible person would. And then it shows, at the end, Thanos looking like he did in Guardians of the Galaxy with the Infinity Gauntlet. How did he get that? What's going on there? All those gems. Probably.

Is it over when he gets that, though? Like, it's over, right? I mean, he has had it in the comics, obviously, and it's fine. But that should be over, right? You get the glove and it's finished. Well, we don't know how it's going to play out. Also, the rules for it might be different.

Okay. Mostly they just shoot energy, those gems, in the movies. Yeah, pretty much. There's just lots of zappy rays. Yeah, because there seems to be a much greater difficulty in the movie universe about activating them. Yeah.

So that's probably it. Okay, sure. It's probably like a Rubik's Cube. Oh, he's like, Jesus! God damn it! Yeah, exactly. Okay, great. Cool.

Interestingly, they've broken the Infinity War up into two parts like they're going gonna do with Justice League yeah do you think that's a coincidence yes sure I think it's a coincidence

in that now everything's being broke every major thing yeah that's been adapted from another thing is now broken up

into multiple movies the Infinity War is like a saga though like it goes for like yeah true at least two issues is that right at least

at least two issues yeah so I'd imagine you'd be okay with that being broken up then yeah totally yeah there's two years between the justice league movies as well there's only one there's only one between this yeah this is from john c though he's written and he said ah you guys are great big fan of the show thanks john that's it no he also says i wanted to ask about the movies in between avengers part one and two so that is captain marvel and inhumans how do you think that will keep the story going about these two movies or do you think they'll be standalone like guardians of the galaxy you probably don't know but i demand an uh demand an answer

also i'm the official junior editor at that website of the podcast sneaky it's gotten in there um will i keep this we'll see that's that's a good question um because we're expanding the universe further and further out yeah um i think they'll have to tie in yeah maybe that's how captain marvel will get her powers there'll be some weird infinity thing and she's like now i've got powers and then that's what i'm great that should be a catchphrase the whole time like whenever she does anything she's like, now I've got powers and then that's what happens. Pretty great. That should be a catchphrase the whole time. Like,

whenever she does anything, she's like, now I've got powers. Like, she lifts a car off somebody, she's like, now I've got powers. Yeah.

Maybe, like, a whole lot of Avengers are incapacitated in between as well. That's why they're going within humans and Captain Marvel.

Right, right, right. Maybe, yeah. Maybe they're caught in some kind of negative headspace. Definitely. So, you know. Who wouldn't be?

Yeah. I think the rumor is that the first Avengers movie is like, negative headspace definitely so you know but yeah who wouldn't be yeah i think other i think the the rumor is that the first avengers movie is like the b team avengers right like your your buckies and your whatever and the second one is like everybody comes back okay because that's how it's contracted with guardians of galaxy yeah yeah okay which would be sweet nice also you know hulk is going to appear in this as well. No, sorry, in prior movies. Because Mark Ruffalo is contracted to like six movies or something. So, there's also, I think that maybe, other people have said this, that he'll get shot into space at the end of Age of Ultron.

And he'll cross over with some space shit. Cool. Like maybe Guardians or whatever. Nice. And we've mentioned this before as well. Drax is not green right yeah he's very green in the comics so when they punch on in the film it's clear who's who yeah that'd be great because then you got three green people on the guardians you've got gamora and drax and hulk yeah yeah and chris evans when he's sick yeah so yeah i don't know

that's that's that's that's a I guess. But everything's also a possibility. Isn't it, though? Yeah. Infinite possibilities. Yeah. But for all those movies, which are you most excited for? Ooh. I'm very excited for Captain Marvel.

Okay, cool. Awesome. Yeah, because I want to see where that's going to go. Sure. Hang on. There's so many options. These are all great, to be honest. You know what?

Probably least excited Thor, but whatever. Okay. Yeah, no. I'll agree with that. Because I feel like we've kind of seen a lot of that. Ah, see. Three-way tie. Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Black Panther. Okay, sure.

I think. Ah, but also Inhumans. Wait. Do they live on the... If they live on the moon, that's in the mix. Because I want to see what Black Panther's like... Well, he's also going to show up in Civil War. Yeah, yeah. See, I want to see what Black Panther's like. Well, he's also going to show up in Civil War. Yeah, yeah.

See, I want to see what his nation looks like. Yeah. That'd be very exciting. I want to see what high-tech gear he's got. Yeah. Because that's going to be really good. There's a scene in... There was a Black Panther series quite a few years ago.

Yeah. Where, like, one of his embassies or whatever is under siege by Mephisto. Who's, like, you know, the devil of the Marvel universe. He broke Professor X's legs, didn't he? where one of his embassies or whatever is under siege by Mephisto, who's like the devil of the Marvel universe. He broke Professor X's legs, didn't he? No, it's a different devil. Oh, no, sorry, he's the Ghost Rider guy. There we go. And he's this all-powerful guy.

I love how there's a different the devil. That's a different the devil. It's a different the devil. So there's one where Mephisto's laying siege to this place and he's got ultimate power or whatever and black panther goes into you know negotiate with this guy or just you know try and find a way to you know sacrifice whatever he can to get mephisto to leave this world or whatever and then it's revealed that uh while this while he's you know beseeching him to to you know leave the world and leave us all in peace or whatever. His team's been setting up

a ring of power disruptors around the building to cut off his extra-dimensional power source. Then he just clocks him in the face. It's really good. That is really great. Yeah. That's awesome.

And also Doctor Strange. Because I want to say, we don't... We've got magic in the marvel universe but it's just it's like space technology yeah it's space future magic yeah but i want to see what are they going to do with dr strange is going to be similar yeah it's going to have actual magic who knows exactly well they well they were very clear in the press comments i think they're like this this is we've we've done regular earth stuff we've found in space we've found real magic in the world we're

going to employ it on this film. Yeah. But they're like, no, this is our... Technically, it's practical effects because we're actually going to summon devils. We're going to teach Cumberbatch how to use the Crimson Bands of Scytherac. It's going to be great.

The Winds of Watu. All the classics. All the classics. But, yeah, what was I going to say? Yeah, but they're like, no, this is our entry into proper magic not proper you know

do you believe in magic okay which is more real lizard people or magic you've got to pick ooh lizard people okay sure yeah definitely

fantastic well I'm excited oh I'm probably most still excited for Civil War I really want to see Civil War I'm not super excited for Civil War I'm not against it you're a fucking Civil War. I'm not against it.

You're a fucking idiot. I know. I'm not against it but we've seen those characters enough. Sure, good point. Great point. But no, all of those

are great. Can't wait for literally all of them. Yes. Great. Cool. Moving on. We've got more news, Mason.

So much news. I'd save this for later. I nearly said so many news. Oh, one more thing. Yes. My name is Dale Martin. No, it's not.

You're James Jr. Editor. That's right. Totally used both my names to hear how it sounds in your accents. But on YouTube and Twitter, I go by Laserclops. I know now you've seen the Marvel Phase 3 movie slate, correct? Bono asked a question. No, I haven't seen it. Out of all these characters.

That was a bluff. That was an elaborate bluff I'd just done. We kind of answered this, but out of all these characters, we are getting out of the Marvel Universe, who are you most excited for?

So like new characters? Who for you? Black Panther, me. Yeah. What about you? Doctor Strange, probably. Okay, cool. Sweet as.

Racist Mason. Yeah, I know. I personally have to say Black Bolt. He's the definition of the strong silent type also locked your because even though i don't know much about the inhumans i know you've got you've got to have a locked jaw is that true yeah he's a he's a giant teleporting dog so of course you do

you've got to have him you've got to have him that's actually really a good point because in the comics he's quite he's like he's really like a bulldog, but like, like the size of a, like a big couch. Like he's a real big dog and he's got like an antenna on his head. I know him. And he can teleport, but he's real big. So how are they going to do that? Are they going to, are they going to give a real, like a, is he going to, is he going

to be regular dog size? Yeah. Are they going to CG up a giant dog? They'd have to CG up a giant dog, wouldn't they? Yeah, a giant dog, yeah. Because they've got a regular dog with Cosmo now. That's true. Yeah.

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Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. All right, Christopher Nolan news. He's doing the rounds on Interstellar at the moment. Early reviews are in and they're like, maybe Christopher Nolan isn't perfect after all. Oh, really? People are being real dicks about it. Because I've heard people be like this

is the best movie going experience I've ever had. All these people are real pricks. All these people who get early access to this film are real

pricks is what I'm saying. Give it to us. I tried to win his tickets this week. We did not win. Wow. Yeah.

I wasn't going to take you anyway. Was it a pie eating contest? Yes. Great. Problem was though I'd eaten a lot of pies before. Should have known.

Should have known, yeah. True. But when you go to enter into a pie eating contest, thinking about pie, and then you're like, I'm just going to have a couple of pies right now. And then by the time the contest rolls around, you're full up a pie.

I'm all pied out, mate. Anyway, Christopher Nolan, he's doing the rounds or whatever. And he's like, they asked him, would you ever do another superhero movie? And he said, I had a great experience with the superhero genre and got to explore lots of things. But it was a good decade of my life. And I find it hard to imagine returning to it. But never say never. So he's left it open.

But realistically, no. Not again. I think that's a smart answer. Being like, look, I loved it, but I'm, you know. Yeah. I get the same. Like, you know, some people are like, well, superheroes aren't really for me. Yeah, yeah.

You know, whatever. Yeah. He'd only ever go back if he ran out of money, and he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who runs out of money. No. He seems good. He'd be good with money. Yes.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He is. And spinning hallways. Oh, be good with money. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he is. And spinning hallways. Oh, so good with those. Great. What if he blew all his money on...

Like, he built a mansion filled with spinning hallways. Then he'd be back. Sure. But yeah, look, as much as I like Christopher Nolan, I think I like the idea of him going out and making new projects and new properties. Yes. Like, I love his Batman movies, and particularly the second one. They're all good in their own way or whatever.

But I think he's a very good, competent storyteller. Auteur. Auteur. Yeah. Good for him. And he's sort of British or from Boston. Yeah. And he's probably...

He is one of the few people out there putting original properties out there. Yeah. That aren't based on a book or a comic book or whatever. That people go and see. That people go and see. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So basically we're going to go through all the Nolan movies briefly because who cares? Right? Well, probably Christopher Nolan cares. What if this is the one moment? Like we always say You know every podcast

Is somebody's first podcast So make it good and fresh And don't Like not too many Don't turn up really tired Do it late at night Don't really half-ass it Well

What if Christopher Nolan's like Oh I think I'll give These podcasts a try And he Clicks on this one Because it's in movies and TV And he's like I like movies

And then he turned, we're like, who cares, we're like, who cares, wait, who bloody, I'll do my Australian accent,

who bloody cares about Christopher Nolan's cinematic output? Eh? What a dickhead. And then he's done. I just want to clarify, by who cares,

I meant who cares what we think. Oh, yeah, that makes a lot more sense. But I didn't want to stop you. You were into that. But yeah, Blake Battersea's written it, actually. And he pointed out that apart from the Batman movies,

all of his films are one word. That's interesting. Yeah, I didn't realise. Inception is two words, though. Because everybody in that movie, when you think about it, is inception. They're right in, inception. It's as far as you can get. Because everybody in that movie, when you think about it, is inception. Yes. They're right in, exception.

It's as far as you can get. Yeah, as far as you can get into exception. Layers of exception. Yeah. Yeah. Just layers upon layers. Yeah. So, we're going to start with his first kind of feature film.

It's called Following. Yeah, okay. I haven't seen it. You seen it? I also didn't see it. I was going to save that for what you're reading later. Yeah. It's a segment where we read or watch a thing.

Or do something. It's in black and white. So. Yeah. Does that turn you off? When was it made? Like 1998? 98.

Okay. Yeah. No. It's probably a very student film. Or it's really good. I haven't seen it. So is it an independent film or is it a student film? I don't know.

I did no research on it. Neither did I. Here's one for the books. All right. But yeah, so it sounds like a very... He's got a lot of great concepts. Yes. It sounds like that.

He's got limited resources and so he knows what he can do with what little he has. Yeah. The premise is this. Is it an art student or some sort of student who's... The worst kind of student. Yeah. The premise is this, is it's an art student or some sort of student who's... The worst kind of student.

Yeah. Who is following people around the city to get inspiration. Okay. To see what they do in their lives. Okay. And then one person he follows turns to be like

in some sort of criminal underworld. Oh, okay. So, and then he gets drawn into a web of intrigue. An inception. And a real inception. Yeah. it great okay cool well i'm also gonna want to read that fantastic yeah moving on this is the first christopher nolan movie i saw uh memento from 2000 uh yeah uh it's one of my faves me too yeah great movie one of your favourite movies or one of one of my favourite movies I think I got it wrong okay great

I remember when he was chosen for Batman rebooting Batman I still have it here it's on my bloody iPad right there ready to go at a moment's notice

tell me when I watch it yeah when they said he's doing Batman I was like great choice yeah yeah love Memento

and I think that's the only movie of his that I'd seen at that point so well on board do you think plot wise it's his most complex movie it's probably the most complex that makes sense when you think about it it still makes sense oh that's right i forgot i i know where we're gonna go a little bit later you're right it is yeah yeah but i think yeah he's the most complex movie where you don't afterwards go, hey, wait a minute. Yeah. It makes perfect sense.

And it's amazing that that movie has so many moving parts and is structured in such a complete mindfuck of a way. But you completely understand it. Yes. Like the entire time. Yeah. And we're going to spoil these? Yeah, I think so. Sure.

Except for the one that I haven't seen. We'll talk about... The one comes after this, I think. Okay, cool the one that I haven't seen that we'll talk about the one comes after this I think okay cool don't spoil it for me I'm 28 minutes in I haven't seen

Robin Williams yet so if you could just not spoil that one you're talking about Patch Adams yeah Patch Adams he's a doctor but he makes a joke

and everybody alright yes except for the people that die also in Patchams his girlfriend is murdered by a serial killer or something i think that happened in real life as well yeah wow poor patch yeah but anyway um so basically the story is a guy who suffers from a rare condition of memory loss where every 15 he doesn't basically have a long-term memory anymore

so every memory he's had before he'd get clocked in the head yep black panther style yep remains locked in his mind forever but the only but then he can only remember 15 minutes prior to yeah if you've seen 50 first dates it's like that this was the dramatic 50 first dates yes and not as depressing weirdly isn't that weird isn't that weird? Yeah. That's so odd. So, yeah, it's basically he's under the impression that his guy, Pierce, who's great, that his wife was murdered and that's when he gets clocked in the head and loses his memories and he's on this hunt to find the men or man

who murdered his wife. Yes. But he's a very kind of clever kind of detective but he's got this cripp of clever kind of detective, but he's got this crippling ailment, which means all his clues he tattoos on his body, so he never forgets them. And every time he, you know, that 15 minutes ticks over,

he has to kind of, okay, I'm this person, I've got this, and he has to re-kind of learn every time. Yes, yeah. By the time he then figures something out... Memory's gone again. Memory's gone again. So, yeah, it's probably again. Memory's gone again. So, yeah. It's probably better than 50 First Dates. In many ways, it's infinitely better than 50 First Dates, yeah.

So, yeah. It's got Stephen Tobolowsky. Yeah, famous character actor. I was going to mention that. Famous character actor, Stephen Tobolowsky. Yeah, he's pretty great. Delightful. Yeah, absolutely.

And two Matrix alums. Oh, they do too, yeah. Carrie-Anne Moss and Joe Pants Pantoliano But yeah, it runs backwards as well, this movie, doesn't it? Correct So it starts, what is it? It starts with a murder Well, it starts, the current day stuff happens forwards

And the flashbacks happen backwards And they meet in the middle, right? Sure, that sounds about right. Yeah, that works. Genius. Genius. Now, Nolan wrote this with his brother, is that right? Yes. And have they continued...

Gregory Nolan. Gregory Nolan. Have they continued their working relationship? I believe so, yeah. They did the Dark Knight movies together as well? Yeah. Okay. And I think his brother also had a hand in Terminator Salvation.

Hooray! Yeah, but I wouldn't pin that on him. No, absolutely not. Yeah, I can't remember his brother's name. Don't know why it doesn't matter. It's not important. Once again, this is Christopher Nolan's first podcast that he's listening to. It does matter what his brother's name is, alright?

Jonathan Nolan. That's right. right sorry thank you very much but yeah i don't really have anything else to say from it uh that other than you should if you haven't seen memento you should definitely go watch it yeah i remember i hired a vhs i was at school and i was like i'm gonna watch this and i did and i was like a lot of people listening won't know what any of those words mean. School. VHS. School. Watching. Watching a thing. Jonathan Nolan. Great.

None of those. Yeah. It's great. I don't really want to spoil it. No. Well done. Yeah. I think that was a nice... That's a good summary.

Sure. Absolutely. So, they'll be about that length, won't they? Yes. Now we're going to talk about these movies. It's very late. Yes. Next week we'll be fresh and we'll talk about Inter length won't they Yes Now we're going to talk about these movies It's very late Yes Next week we'll be fresh

And we'll talk about Interstellar Two words Two words It's a guy who really gets interstellar A cheeky nose Do you ever see Stella Got Her Groove Back No Me neither

How did she get it back though Probably sass and dancing Sure makes sense Also Alec Baldwin was the first choice for leonard oh yes that's pretty cool also brad pitt was he an option yeah there was a few names floated around he was one of them and dennis leary turned down teddy okay that'd have been pretty interesting yes i like who they went with yeah me too yeah excellent stuff next up insomnia 2002 uh-huh once again i'm 28 minutes in sell me me on insomnia, you think. It's not that good.

Okay, look. It's okay. Yep. I think it's miscast. I have a question for you. Yeah. Is Al Pacino a good actor? No.

He was a good actor. Right. And then he made Scent of a Woman and he lost his mind. Right. Do you think it's because Scent of a Woman, he was all, who are? Yeah. Do you think people really reacted well to who are? I think he won an Oscar or maybe got a lot of accolades.

Yeah. So then he just did that forever. Right. Okay. And now he's just a weird parody of himself. Look, he tones it down a lot in this movie. You can see him really trying. But I do not like Al Pacino.

Okay. No, that's not the right word i i like him enough but he's just to me he's he's just al pacino right i see al pacino playing the devil in the devil's own in every movie that al pacino advocates are yeah so that's that's what i say okay so you're probably right i think they should have put someone else in it robin williams is quite good in it actually yeah but no al pac, not so much. But basically, the story of that one is... Are you up to the bit with the fog?

Yes. Okay, so he accidentally shoots his partner while chasing a serial killer. Yeah, so Al Pacino has come to this weird place in Alaska. Yeah. I'm assuming it's Alaska. Yeah, it is. To find a serial killer. Yeah.

Yeah. They chase him down to a cabin, and then there's a lot of fog. He accidentally shoots his killer. Yeah. Yeah. They chase him down to like a cabin and then there's a lot of fog. He accidentally shoots his partner. Yeah. In the meantime... But his partner's also... Oh, sorry.

His partner is investigating. Is providing evidence to Internal Affairs to investigate Al Pacino. Yeah. For all his Pacino-ing around. He's suspiciously Pacino-ing around. So, yeah. I think it's an interesting premise. And the idea then from that, he's kind of veryino-ing around. So, yeah, I think it's an interesting premise. And the idea then from that, he's kind of very guilt-ridden,

he covers it up or whatever, because he goes, despite it being an accident, he goes, this will not look good on me. Yeah. So he's wracked with guilt and Hilary Swank is then involved in it and whatever. He's wracked with guilt and Hilary Swank. Yes.

And because he's in Alaska and it's eternal... Daytime. Daytime, this time of year. Uh-huh. Yeah, like he can't sleep. So his mind gets more and more kind of twisted. Yeah, yeah. And the thing is as well, that's actually true.

The longer you stay awake, as we've known from doing this podcast right now... Correct. ...the more insane you become. Yeah, I've... Temporarily. Yeah. As I was watching this immediately before coming over here... Yeah.

...to do this, I was relating to him quite well. Like, I'm like, I totally get it. I'd shoot my partner as well. This guy? My partner in podcasting, yes. Just accidentally. Sure, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Then you'd cover it up, but then Swank would be onto you. Ah, Swank. So, look, it's... I think, would be on to you Swank so look it's I think look it's okay should I watch it till the end then

yeah why not I got some time off tomorrow yeah exactly yeah do it or don't do it right it's a long weekend here

so whatevs man interesting though that Harrison Ford was actually considered for the Al Pacino role I think that's way better because he's way more tired

like if he had to definitely he really even in 2002 was he super tired in 2002 hollywood homicide oh he was tired yeah that's true yeah yeah so yeah there you go yeah it's fine great but yeah i wouldn't i couldn't say i highly recommend it would you say it's his most fine film yes definitely okay cool yeah yeah yeah i mean it all makes sense and a lot of it works and But to be fair, he's not doing the full Pacino. Like, he brings it right down.

Hoo-ah. But even then, yeah, it's fine. A lot of people like it and that's fair enough if you do, yeah. But do people like it retroactively because it's a Christopher Nolan film? That's a possibility, sure. At the time, do you remember anybody saying, hey, you must check out Insomnia? I remember people saying Robin Williams is great in that because that was around the time when he was kind of...

Playing against type. Yes. He did like One Hour Photo and... Yeah, yeah. Death to Smoochie, I think. Right, right. By the way, Death to Smoochie is not great. People say it's great.

It's not that great. No, I think it's okay. Yeah, yeah. Next up was obviously Batman Begins. We'll come back to that at some point. All the Batmans. Yes. Come back to them.

Yep, absolutely. That's a whole other thing. The Prestige. Yeah, here we go. 2006 or 2007. Uh-huh. It's basically, it's a Victorian era London magician jewel. Boy, is it.

One of two that year, right? The Illusionist. The the illusionist was also that which is much worse okay there you go maybe not much worse they both have inexplicable magic in it though yes that's inexplicable third act plot twist yes yeah um i think it's and it's basically these two dueling magicians yes uh it starts off with a kind of more like friendly competition it's hugh jackman and christian bale and they keep upping the stakes who can do the better magic show sure and they have like competing magic theaters and they're like hugh jackman's more of the kind of

the showman yep and he brings in the crowds and whatever but technically the christian bale magician is a better magician right yeah and it kind of the whole thing kind of drives the hugh jackman one insane right because christian bale's character yeah develops a trick where he runs into a box on one side of the stage walks not even walks into a box on one side of the stage instantly comes out yeah 20 feet away on the other side of the stage and it drives hugh jackman insane because he cannot figure out how he does it yes right should we spoil the twist i think we have to spoil the twist i think we have here's the thing because i i because i want i wanted to have like some facts in front of me whatever so i just googled the prestige yeah the first thing that

comes up if you type the prestige there's a just says nonsense no it says the prestige explained so clearly there are a lot of people who were very confused by this i get it yeah i get it it's not it's not hard to understand. I think maybe what they explain is, like, how did everybody drop the ball in making this, that they would think that that was a satisfactory explanation for how the film goes. Do you remember, we saw that together.

Yeah. And afterwards we were like... No, in the moment. Oh, yeah, you're right. What? Clothing machine. Clothing machine. So basically, the way thatugh jackman tops his trick the first thing he does he hires a double and so hugh jackman

disappears into the stage and then another guy appears who looks enough like hugh jackman that from a distance the audience think that it's hugh jackman yep but that depresses hugh jackman because that guy gets all the accolades at the end of the show and he wants the audience's approval or whatever much like a podcast definitely and so that drives him to David Bowie yes as Nikola Tesla who's great by the way

yeah sure why doesn't he do more acting? he's really rich probably and he's weird? yeah really rich and weird yeah and basically David Bowie... I think they say in music, the quote is,

you only make two amounts of money in music. You can only make two amounts of money in music. Not as much as you'd think and more than you can possibly imagine. And I think Bowie has done the latter like bowie rolling stones those guys they get on an era where you were just like i read i read that elton john like i read an interview with him once and he said i reckon i spend a million pounds a year on clothes right that's insane right yes what's he done lately i don't think nothing i haven't bought

clothes this year yeah but anyway the point is bowie's really rich so yeah why why would he need to do anything he doesn't holy crap yeah that's insane uh-huh no he made that candle in the wind song when he's dying he reissued it oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that was several decades ago, right? It was. Okay. Anyway, cloning machine. So he goes to Nikola Tesla. I've got some stuff to say about Princess Diana, but I'll save it. Yeah. I actually do, but it's not the time.

Right. So he goes to Nikola Tesla to help develop a teleportation machine. Oh, yes. Okay, yep. Yep, sure. But then he discovers, and he teleports his hat.

Yeah. He thinks it's not working. Because it's just disappearing. Disappearing. But then he discovers, and he teleports his hat. He thinks it's not working. Because it's just disappearing. Disappearing. But then he discovers that the machine is making a copy of his hat. So his hat, oh sorry, yeah, you're right, exactly. Sorry, yeah, it doesn't disappear. The machine keeps making a copy of his hat and throwing it outside.

In a pile of hats. In a pile of hats, right? So then he decides, you know, they work on it and perfect this thing. Yeah. so then he decides they work on it and perfect this thing so every time he builds the same trick what he thinks is the same trick and he goes into the box

he teleports to the other side of the stadium of the stadium or he creates a double at the other side of the stadium it's like a fax machine it's like a fax machine, essentially. It's like a fax machine, exactly. So, and then one of them is killed, right?

One of them kills the other one. One of them kills the other one. In a panic. Right, right, right. Yeah, and then he basically uses that trick. He sets up a stage show, and every night he disappears. The original version of him drops into a fish tank.

Yeah. The lid closes, drowns. Yeah. And Christian Bale gets framed for that murder. Right, right, right. But even though he's just been doing this every night, he's just been drowning multiple Jackmans. Yeah, yeah. And he doesn't know, we don't know whose consciousness, we don't know who's the original.

No, we don't. We don't know whether it is teleporting him or it's a copy. And he says that's the fear of doing the trick. Right. Because you don't know whether you're going to be the man in the box or the man who appears yeah yeah the other side of the auditorium yeah and he's crazy right he goes completely insane right it's probably all the cloning sure but i mean if you ever yeah i i spent a few years just faxing myself to various locations and i went insane yes i can't imagine you know but um because everything up to that point as well

it's very mechanical yeah it's very grounded in reality exactly and it's very like this is how they make a bird disappear and what actually happens is the bird gets crushed into a little mechanical um that gets goes to your chest or something right and so but and then a different bird appears in the cage and And then you sort of go, well, they didn't value the lives of animals back then. Yeah, yeah. So of course they would do that. Yeah.

And birds were cheap. Yeah, exactly. And these were all tricks that they used to do. Like they did this thing called the bullet catch trick, which is basically you pretend to put a musket ball into a gun and then you, but then you actually, when you go to pack it down,

you actually use a little magnet stick to pull it out. Yeah, okay, cool. And then you fire a blank and then you pretend to catch it down, you actually use a little magnet stick to pull it out. Yeah, okay, cool. And then you fire a blank and then you pretend to catch it. Right, right, yeah. And stuff like that. And that stuff is, to me, very fascinating. Yeah. I like that kind of stuff.

But then when they introduced the cloning machine, I remember thinking, like, okay, that doesn't fit this world at all. And not only that, this mustn't actually be a cloning machine. Right. Like, this world at all. And not only that, this mustn't actually be a cloning machine. Right. Like this is something else until you see the two Hugh Jackman's appear. And then you go, Oh no, they've really done this. Yeah,

exactly. And then of course the final reveal is that Christian Bale's character just had a twin brother. Yes. The whole time. Yes. And so, and the thing there is that the idea is that Hugh Jackman's character has lost his mind. Yeah. It's ruined his

life yeah trying to figure this thing out and then it was the simplest explanation yeah yeah which is interesting which is interesting yeah but i feel it would have suited the world much more if hugh jackman's that you whatever mechanism he discovered to attempt to duplicate this trick it ruined his life anyway. Yeah. But it wasn't a cloning machine. Yeah, exactly. Call me a dreamer. But surely the guys who created Memento

could have come up with a better solution there. That's it, yeah. Look, but you know what? It could have been... It could have even been like... Something more suited to the... Like maybe some sort of magnetic... You know, maybe some sort of magnetic device that threw him across the stage. Sure, yeah. Something to that. Like maybe some sort of magnetic, you know,

maybe some sort of magnetic device that threw him across the stage or something like that. And it was killing him, you know, with radiation or something like that, you know.

But come on, just flings him across. It's a catapult. Like a catapult. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah, but you know what? That being said,

it's a very watchable movie and the characters make it interesting. Right. And I still think it's a pretty good movie. Despite all of that. Yeah. Despite how it doesn't make sense. How about we do an edit of it?

Yes. Where we cut out all instances of the cloning machine. And then, like, we just get Sean Willits, friend of the show, animator. Grab bloke. Like we just get Sean Willits, friend of the show, animator, to cut in a scene where Hugh Jackman is flying across the stage behind a curtain in a catapult. Breaks a lot of limbs over and over. That would be amazing. And then at the end when it's like, oh, I just had a twin brother,

Hugh Jackman's like, oh, my limbs. I kept breaking all my limbs. That would be amazing yes um but you know what the other thing is the christian bale twist yes i picked that much earlier because there's a guy who always hangs out with christian bale who clearly is christian bale like another christian bale who wears like prosthetics i mean but i like the idea as well that this guy has lived his whole life with this twin and they've just shared a life. There's a bit where Hugh Jackman sabotages his bullet catch trick and shoots off two of his fingers.

Uh-huh, yeah. So then they have to chisel off the other one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they fall and one of them falls in love with a woman, but they both end up marrying her and she figures it out and then kills herself i like that that that's all stuff is fascinating even though it's it's very evident that that's just christian yeah totally yeah but that it's yeah yeah yeah every element of is i think every element of that movie is good yep performances are great you know the the sets and costumes or whatever are great yep the catapult's great

the catapult is great that we've invented in our minds but yeah just if they could have changed that twist it was based on a book right? I think it was yeah

so was there a was there a cloning machine there must have been a cloning machine there'd have to have been because there's no way there could have been a more realistic twist

in the book and they've gone actually you know Hollywood Because there's no way there could have been a more realistic twist in the book. And they've gone, actually, you know, Hollywood mainstream audiences will not accept whatever we built, whatever they made in this book. It has to be a cloning machine. You know what? Let's look that up now because I want to know. Okay, cool. All right.

Based on The Prestige by Christopher Priest. Here we go. I pushed the link. Good. Okay. In the meantime, I've got a fact for you. Okay. You know what?

Oh, wait. I want to see this first. Okay, cool. We'll edit this out. Nah. Oh, great. Just run a search for cloning machine

on the page. In a flash, it's the best search ever for subsequent teleportation duplicated. Yeah, it's the same. Okay, great. Great.

I love how they say duplicator. It's a cloning machine Yeah yeah yeah Yeah It's an 18th century cloning machine There's some sort of ghostly Whatever There's somebody turns into a ghost though

That's in the illusionist as well Yeah one of Because in the illusionist There's weird holograms In the other one Remember that In this one In the book version

Spoiler alert There's a There's The Somebody interferes with the machine and one of them becomes incorporeal. Oh, okay. I think. Well, that's probably best they cut that out. Yeah, one of the duplicates becomes like a ghost.

Okay. Okay, anyway, yeah. And they fight crime together. Yeah, they fight crime together. Okay, fantastic. That's dumber. Yeah, isn't it though? But you know what? In a book like that, I'd imagine that it would fit. Because it's set up as a...

I'd imagine that book's set up like, again, not having read it. Yeah. It's probably set up that way from the start. That it's kind of a supernatural kind of... Well, maybe. Maybe thing. Yeah, but this movie is not that. No, that's very realistic.

But you know what? Also, they telegraph early on the fact that Christian Bale's character, there's two of them in a few ways. But one of the ways is they go and see this performer, this Chinese performer. And he looks like this old Chinese man who can move this incredibly heavy fishbowl from one spot to another. And the way he does it is he's not actually an old Chinese man. He's a young, strong man. And he grabs the fish ball between his knees shuffles it to another place and then makes it reappear right but he

lives as that guy always right okay like he never ever breaks character uh-huh and i and that's basically what christian bale is doing yes you're never breaking character living this this life yeah this lie or whatever but actually that guy that guy... But you can tell, you can... Like, the giveaway is, that reveal happens, and Christopher Bale goes... Christopher Bale. Christian Bale goes, that's what I do with me and me brother.

And then he points. And if you can pick that up, it's the twist. I didn't, I read that later. Your Cockney accent is exactly like Christian Bale's Cockney accent. I'm not even kidding. That was dead on. But that actor, though, that performer, he went by the name Chang Ling Su. And he was a real person that exists, apparently.

He was this Caucasian American man. His name was William Ellsworth Robinsoninson who disguised himself as a chinese man probably not well but i'd imagine a lot of people then wouldn't have known what a chinese person looked like correct yeah and would have been like yeah he's you know he's got a little bit of eyeliner or whatever yeah like a big flowy beard that's what it is and he did that to cash in the audience's enthusiasm for the exotic and he lived as this guy never breaking character while in public he died in march 1918 when a bullet catch trick went wrong and his last words were i wish that bullet catch trick didn't go wrong because i've been shot by a bullet

his last words were my god i've been shot and they were the first words in English he'd spoken on stage in 19 years. Wow. So that's amazing, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's incredible. But I wish it was blimey. Yeah. I wish that bullet catch went better.

So yeah, I would say if you haven't seen it and you didn't listen to our spoiler, go and watch it, I guess. Because I think it's interesting. All right. I think it's interesting. All right. I think it's interesting. I think it's better than Insomnia, even though it's nonsense. Rightio, then. Speaking of nonsense.

Here we go. No. Inception. Yeah. I think I've got it here. Inception, the subtitle should be Inception. Subtitle, don't think about it. Really?

Just don't think about it. Yeah. It kind of unravels. I love Inception. It's great. It's probably his best movie maybe no it's probably not i don't know it's good it's really good i enjoyed a lot i like the concept uh i like i like that it doesn't talk down to the audience yep i a lot of people when it came

out a lot of people like oh this movie's blowing my mind okay sure it doesn't blow your mind I think it's a good baseline level action film yep like it's I enjoy it a lot but I think it smarts wise it's a baseline

like it's all action movies should be at least this good okay fair yeah otherwise don't bother don't bother exactly total recall reboot yes expendables

yeah three and probably the first two but i haven't seen them yeah i feel like i don't think it makes entirely entire sense well i mean there are some plot holes there but yeah that's okay right because he crafts it in such a way and this skill is that he can put together it's like a It's like a weird kind of broken jigsaw that fits together perfectly. I can't even... I get you.

I don't have a better metaphor than that. It's fine. But it's one of those ones you can go back and see twice as well and there's layers of dreams and stuff. Inception. Inception-ig, yeah. Well, yeah.

I mean, there are a couple of little flaws in it. Yeah. The idea of going into dreams. Well, yeah, I mean, there are a couple of little flaws in it. Yeah. The idea of going into dreams. Well, there's that. Yeah. Assuming everybody listening has seen it. Yes. If you haven't, here's a moment, and you've all gone and seen it.

So, in the, like, I guess the second, third act, when they go, they're all on the plane. Yeah. And they go, you know, they go up in the plane. They all inceptionize. Yes. In the inception machine. And they have to get in and get out before the plane lands. Yeah.

The air hostess, the steward, is on board with the plan. Yes. Why can't you just wake them all up? Good point. Yeah. Really good point. Yeah. Because there't you just wake them all up? Good point. Yeah. Really good point. Yeah. Because there's dudes dying in there as well.

Right, right. Like the guy gets... Because if you die in a dream, you die in real life. No, you don't. Oh, you do though. You go to a weird space. In this particular situation, you do.

Because they're so far under. Yes, exactly. Because they're dreams in dreams. Well, maybe that's the reason she couldn't just wake them up. No, that's not a very good reason. No, it's not. Just wake them up.

Yeah, just wake them up. Yeah. I was going to say, and it was very smart, I think, in not a very good reason. No, it's not. Just wake them up. Yeah, just wake them up. Yeah. I was going to say, and it's, it was very smart, I think, in like the very first scene. Yeah.

The very first scene is a dream within a dream. Yeah. So we can lay that groundwork. Yep. And we can, you know, I think if they didn't do that,

regardless of how it went, I think at the end, by the end, people would have spent the entire film going, oh, maybe this is a dream. Yeah.

This part's a dream. Maybe this is the dream within the dream so if you go okay you can have a dream within a dream that's pretty much standard procedure for these people yeah it's not a surprise yeah so yeah absolutely great movie right great movie very stylish very stylish good suits a lot of practical effects as well yeah Yeah. Like those suits. Like the suits. Like the spinny hallway and there's a bunch of other stuff. Like this. I've got here. It's only 500 visual effects shots were made.

But normally it's something like this would be like 2000 plus. Okay, right. There's some stuff that you can't do. Like there's a bit where the city folds in on itself. Oh, yes. Like obviously. Can't do that live. No.

Yeah. But. Well, these days. Yeah, but like. Occupational health and safety... Can't do that live. No. Yeah. But... Oh, these days. Yeah, but like... Occupational health and safety. Can't flip a city. There's bits where, like, they're sitting

and the cafe, like, explodes. Like, they explode in a cafe and whatever. I'm sure they probably digitally put in DiCaprio or did they? I don't know. I can't even remember

what I was going to say about this. Practical effects. Yeah. Stylish. Yeah, stylish. Great. See, that's an innovative

use of that, the hallway thing. Like, that's an innovative use of that the hallway thing like that's that's been a staple for many years like i remember watching like a variety show back in the 80s or whatever or the 90s where you know they just locked down they had a spinning they had like a spinning room and then locked down a camera and just had people walk up walls or whatever yeah sure that's been that's been around for decades and decades we do that in this podcast we do that in the podcast you guys can't see it, though. We locked down that camera. But yeah, to just, you know,

I don't think anybody's had a really effective, exciting fight scene in something like that. No. Yeah. Joseph Gordon-Levitt did his own stunts for that as well. There you go. I love that weird kind of sideways run he does. It looks real weird, but I love it.

Inception is the reason why, like, for me, I'm like, don't need to make superhero properties or other people's properties. Just, if you've got an idea, just do it. Right, right. Like, even if it's bad or whatever, I'll still see. But nobody's going to commit that amount of money to... Like, who else would have the star power? Oh, no one else.

Besides Nolan, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, like, at this point, from now on, I'm saying, like, just do whatever you want. Just prove that it works. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. but I mean, like, at this point, from now on, I'm saying, like, just do whatever you want. Just prove that it works. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's the thing in Hollywood, like, you can go, you know, you can make, like, bridesmaids and go...

You know, this is a female-fronted comedy that makes a lot of money. Now everybody can do it and then nobody will. Because people have built their own... Like, Hollywood's, you know, built their own... Coffin. Coffin. people have built their own... Like, Hollywood's, you know, built their own... Coffin. Coffin. They've built their own set of, you know, prophecies

and they've gone, well, that's... You know, that doesn't make any money. So, that's a... You know, that's an exception. Same with Inception. Yeah. You know, it's an original property. It made money.

It's a fluke. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly it. And you know what? Inception, it's very fluke yeah that's exactly it and you know what Inception it's very well paced yep

like it's brisk enough where even if you don't understand it if you're just like you said if you're watching it as an action movie like you can just watch it like that

yeah true the entire time good action sequences yeah good car chase yep car slash train chase good brahm

brah that's annoying not that not that it's good in that movie it's annoying that it's in every trailer well it's it set a precedent yeah yeah i think the guy it wasn't han zimmer i think who invented that it was somebody else but the guy was like i'm gonna regret that but everybody does that now yeah yeah. Yeah. It's over. They should stop doing that. I was going to say, now at the end, basically, it's left ambiguous

and Patrick actually written it, written in, is it Patrick? Yeah. The ending scene is basically, it's left ambiguous

whether Leonardo DiCaprio is in a dream or not still when he gets his children back. Yep. Because if for some vague reason he can't go back to america yep it's never really explained why yeah to see his kids and his wife is dead yes and so he does this one last final inception sure to to get back to his kids uh and then he's got this token yep which he uses

to tell whether he's in the real world or not and he spins it and if it falls a certain way no if it spins indefinitely he's in a dream he's in a dream if it falls, it's real so he's not in a dream and we leave we're left on that final shot of it spinning yeah

maybe it wobbles like it's going to fall down maybe it doesn't it does and then it cuts it does it definitely wobbles yeah

look, even Christopher Nolan has said it's a dream but you can it's not a dream but you can take it whatever way you want right, right, okay

I love how people afterwards are like demanding him to like explain it people are enraged like, it's a dream but you can it's not a dream but you can take it whatever way you want I love how people afterwards are like demanding him to like explain it people are enraged like it's fine it's whatever you want exactly it's whatever you want

it's not real that's right or is it real or is it not real I take it as that he's back like that's what I took from that slight wobble

because every other time he spins it it doesn't even wobble for a second if he's in a second okay yeah if he's in a drain okay but the but again the point of it in is at the end as well he spins it and he doesn't even look at it he just walks away right sees his kids so he doesn't even care if it's a dream yeah that's more of the point of it this is this is where i'm at yeah dicaprio

dicaprio out yeah great cast yeah you said, didn't you? I did say that. Yeah. Yeah. Tom Hardy. Yeah. The first time he's kind of, it's probably his first kind of big mainstream-y kind of thing. He did like Brosnan and some others.

Oh, I thought he did Star Trek Nemesis. Right, yeah. Which was a good one. But yeah, that's... Marion Cotillard. Yeah. Great. Good stuff.

I think that's all I have to say about Inception. Great. Go and see it. Yeah, totally. I will. Okay, good it I will see it again but we're really looking forward to next week's thing

aren't we the real people say Christopher Nolan has a problem with making developing characters that is more about

the mechanical parts like he'll put something together like a like a very complex machine but the expensive character development

right do you think that's true let me think Batman which one At the expense of character development. Right, right, right. Do you think that's true? Let me think. Batman. Which one? All of them, but they're more about characters, I think. Sure.

Yeah. Like, I feel that there are a couple of really solid action sequences in, say, The Dark Knight. Yeah. There's the car chase and the bank heist or whatever. Yeah. But I don't... Yeah, but I'm like... But there's no, like...

It's not a movie about crazy fist fights or anything like that. There's no Matrix kind of action sequences where he fights 20 guys or whatever. Yeah. And if there... There is some fighting, but it's kind of over and quite quick and brutal.

Whatever. I feel that's much more a character study than a standard action... I disagree with those critics. Shut up. Yeah, shut feel that's much more a character study than, you know, than a standard actor. I disagree with those critics. Shut up. Yeah, shut up. All of you, shut up. Yeah. Although, I mean,

although at the same time, maybe, maybe that's a case for the actors. Like, if you talk about Inception, Yeah. that is a case of a big puzzle

coming together. Yeah. But all the drama, all the character drama comes from, like, the fact that DiCaprio of a big puzzle coming together. But all the drama, all the character drama comes from like the fact that DiCaprio is a good actor and et cetera, et cetera. And the spinning hallway. And the spinning hallway. The most famous character of all.

Yeah. Like I don't, even if that is the case, I don't mind. Again, it depends on his movie, but I think, no,

he does develop character as well. But I think, I feel like he's got the mind of an engineer who makes films. Right. Okay. Yeah. Like he's very methodical in his planning and he, it's, he knows exactly what he's doing. Like he, and the way.

Arguably. Except for the prestige. Sure. When he just threw in the cloning machine. Well, it's from the book. So now that we know. But, um, people would have been upset if they took it out. I'd imagine like the squid from Watchmen.

Yeah, true. Demand the cloning machine. Oh, it reminds me. Hang on. Ork on Twitter. A-W-K, Ork. Markush2402 on Twitter. Shout out to him.

Would appreciate a Watchmen commentary. Okay, sure. I feel that I could do a Watchmen commentary for days. Oh, great. Like, we could do the film, and then it just fades to black, and I'm still talking. Like, people could just watch the DVD menu, just go endlessly, and I'd be like, I've got another thing about the themes. All right, so I'll be candid to that.

Absolutely, all right. We should break the streak. Let's make that the next one. I'm cool with that. We could do that. We were going to talk about off topic we're nearly at the end of it all there's a lot of movie commentaries

we could do because occasionally we talk over a film obnoxiously at theweeklyplanet.bankcamp.com that's the one we should maybe put up on the facebook page maybe a poll to see what what people would like us to or even like we'll put what do you want and then people will whichever

one gets the most likes yeah totally because you know something a lot of people say well you should talk about you know you should you should commentate over like steel or whatever you know and then we're like well should we you, allegedly quite a bad film, should we force people to listen to a bad, watch a bad film as we talk over it? Or should we do, you know, Nolan Batman movie? Or should we maybe a new movie's coming out soon on DVD and we can get that via our industry contacts and talk over that? Pirate Bay. You know, so we've got a lot of options. Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely. That's a good idea. We'll throw that up there. But I'd be in favour of Watchmen. Let's do, I'll put got a lot of options. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. That's a good idea. We'll throw that up there. But I'd be in favour of Watchmen. Let's do... I'll put it up on my Facebook thing and on the Weekly Planet Facebook. Yeah, cool, man. Yeah.

Nice. Facebook slash Weekly Planet. Is that right? Weekly Planet Pod. There we go. So, yeah. In summary, though, Christopher Nolan's pretty good, isn't he? He's pretty good at movies.

Until next week. Yeah, and then who knows? Who knows? Yeah. I'm pumped for it, though. I'm excited. Are you excited? Ah, yeah.

Yeah. Are there going to be aliens? Probably not. I hope it's not a bullshit Contact ending. Do you remember the movie Contact? Yeah, I remember. Yeah.

They dropped the big sphere. She went to an alien world or did she? I think I remember. It's a real inception. Or the prestige. I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I saw the Contact movie

for a 12th or 13th birthday. Oh, yes. And that is not a movie you should... No. You should... Anyway, the kids should see because it's just mostly boring. That's it, though.

And that's why we're going to move on to What We Read and What We Gonna Read. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Well, I'm going to finish. Despite your critique of it, your scathing critique, I'm going to finish watching Insomnia. Sure.

Fair enough. And maybe following. See if that's... Let me know if he goes full Pacino because I can't remember. Okay, right. I think I watched it maybe He definitely would at the end Because he's from that He's from the school of acting From like

The you know Up until the The 70s or whatever Yeah Where you're just quiet for a while Yeah And then you explode And then you win an Oscar

What's his name The He's in Guardians of the Galaxy He's in Shaun of the Dead He's great What's his name Actor He does the 50 impersonations in one Oh Peter Serafinowicz Peter Serafinowicz He's the voice of the Galaxy. He's in Shaun of the Dead. He's great. What's his name? Actor.

He does the 50 impersonations in one minute. Oh, Peter Serafinowicz. Peter Serafinowicz. He's the voice of Darth Maul also. He does Inside the Actor's Studio. Oh, yes. Where he impersonates a lot of... Like he does like a Michael Caine and whatever and a Brenner. He does a Pacino one.

Uh-huh. It's very good. Great. Like everybody should look that up. Have you... Speaking of that, have you seen Michael Caine do his impersonation of Michael Caine? Yes. Everybody should look that up have you seen speaking of that have you seen michael cain do his impersonation of michael yeah everybody should look that up also it's good because he also he does the classic impersonation where he says i'm michael cain you do a good michael cain actually i'm not gonna make you do it but i remember you did a michael

cain but so i laughed so hard i think i nearly pissed my pants great it was the it was you did michael cain zulu about throwing spears oh yeah i remember that yeah yeah okay all right i'm on board you'll do that one day i'll save it for a future episode please do yeah it's probably not that funny yeah also i think i ripped it off from somebody all right what we read though okay um i actually watched teenage mutant ninja turtles this week the new one oh yes my brother saw it with his kids and he's like you know what it's not that bad it's fine and i watched it and it is fine it's fine i don't know what everybody's banging on about yeah it's fine how's will unentenant is he good no he's not that funny but he's fine it's just fine and fox just fine it's all fine cgi it's but he's fine. It's just fine. How's Megan Fox? Just fine. It's all fine. How's the CGI?

It's okay. It's fine. Look, the design I don't love. And there's bits where, like, there's bits I don't particularly like. There's a bit where you see them, they're pegging, like, shipping crates. Like, pegging them. Like throwing them. Yes.

That's what you're saying. Sorry, yeah. Throwing them. That doesn't make any sense. Because they're enormous. Oh, like a big steel shipping container. Yes. Ninja Turtles are picking them up and throwing them. You don't make any sense because they're not like they're enormous but like it's like a big steel shipping container yes yeah the ninja turtles are picking them up and throwing them you don't see them throw it but you see some ninjas and then one hits them right so i don't know maybe they all picked it up at once but even then yeah like and there's some origin changes

like splinter learns his martial arts from a book that he found or whatever and then he teaches the ninja turtles but you know what i don't know what people are talking about where like it's ruining my childhood right exactly most like tragic thing that's ever happening this i'm in a cinema it's fine and you know what the most important thing is as well kids like it yeah as william fichtner he's fine it's all fine right like there's origin changes or whatever but it's not brilliant are there any inklings of like the the cosmic ninja turtles universe yes the the fish from space or whatever they say the goose from space whatever yeah i wouldn't even say i recommend it and if you hate it i understand because some people hate

things but it's completely it's completely watchable or don't watch it yeah yeah fantastic yeah't watch it, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Fantastic. And also, I downloaded Volume 1 of Captain Marvel. I actually downloaded that before they announced it because they rumoured it. And I was like, oh, I'll buy that now before... I'm going to be ever so slightly ahead of the curve here. Yeah, exactly, before they bump up the price on it. But yeah. What have you been doing?

Reading. Oh, you said it already. Yeah, I did. Insomnia. Insomnia. The first 28 minutes. It's been alright ride so far. Pretty wild ride.

How's he going to get out of this situation? How's he going to get out of this bucket of syrup? Jason J's written it. He goes, I think you guys should mention on the podcast season five of The Walking Dead. It's been absolutely fantastic. Very much so redeeming the series. Would you agree? Let me finish, man.

Okay. That is all. No, your life is not the series. Would you agree? Let me finish, man. Okay. That is all. No, your life is not in danger. That I know of. He's our friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man. I think we've got a Spider-Man, but we can have a friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man. Correct. We can have both.

Yeah. And a crotchety old Spider-Man that's on the stoop is telling kids to get off his lawn. It is really good. I think there are three episodes in and it's really, really, really good. Like, shockingly good. There you go. Like, I feel like it's a really good. I think they're three episodes in and it's really, really, really good. Like, shockingly good. There you go. Like, I feel like it's a trick good. Like, I watch the first one, I go, that was really good.

Next week's going to be terrible. And that one was really good. I'm like, huh, okay. The next one will be terrible. Hypothetically speaking, let's say I've seen the first ten minutes of the first episode of season one. Yes. Could I jump on board at this point? I would say watch season four.

Yep. Even though it's not that great. Great. Some of... You know what? I would say I couldn't even... Specific episodes are good. Yes.

And sometimes episodes are bad, but there's like a good five minute chunk. I don't know when or what. Right. So watch some of it, but I don't know when. Great. But you could probably just start now. Okay. Yeah.

Whatever. It's good. Could I hypothetically not watch it? Yes. That is also an option. when. Great. But you can probably just start now. Okay. Yeah. Whatever. It's good. Could I hypothetically not watch it? Yes. That is also an option. Great, great, great. Yeah. So there you go.

And that's what we're reading for this week. Correct. Yep. Oh, he's gone full Pacino. Oh, Jesus. This is from Joel A. All right, here we go. Just listen to the latest podcast with... Did he open with um? Yes. we go just listen to the latest podcast

with did he open with um yes just listen to your latest podcast with the Mason and I feel guilty to thank you alright excellent

you're the Mason we should call you the Mason I don't like that I do what do I the Mason okay I've been in the hospital

for about a month now after my accident so here this get this right I was at school and a guy was running with a saucepan filled with hot oil and it tripped and went on all over my face jesus how did that happen where do you go to school that's insane that is insane yeah that's a terror i hope he's like i

hope you're okay because that's like the worst thing yeah but jesus bit why wasn't somebody stopping that from happening yeah don't run with a hot saucepan of oil. No. That's a very definition of irresponsible. Yes, it is. Unless you're about to start a fight in a prison. You can edit that out. No, it's fine. I'm good for that. Back to you.

Thank you for my part. Since I'm a teenager, 14, I feel down sometimes. And the only thing that makes me get back on my feet is your, or he says not in brackets, not Mason's podcast in your face. That's fair. That's fine. It's a collaborative. Take your joy when you can find it, I think.

And now when I am in hospital, I've downloaded every single podcast you've done and listened to them all and all of them make me crack up at least twice. Yes. Two, I'm happy with two. One an hour. Yeah, that's right.

Since you and Mason have helped me through the tough times, I want to say thank you. You're allowed to clue this in your next podcast. Also, shout out. Shout out, Joel. That's great. Yeah. I hope that helps in any small way

because that's a fucking awful thing that happens. Yeah. So, yeah. I hope you're okay. And I'm glad that helps in a minor, minor, minor way. All right. Brett H has written in. Hey, guys.

I looked into the news. Remember I said gargoyles last week? Yes. And the site, the only site that was posted was from April 1st. So apparently it's fake. Tell Raymond, who wrote in, to check his shit next time. How dare he compromise the integrity of Roughly the News. Thank you.

Look, that's on me. I should have checked that out. In many ways, that's perfect for roughly the news. Why not throw in some fake news every now and again? Just to keep everyone on their toes. You're right. Yeah. You're absolutely right.

Oh, jeez. It's pretty crook, though. Yeah, it is. Okay, this is another one having a go at Raymond. By the way, Raymond, we like you. It's cool. I don't know if I do, though. I'll fake see you over there.

Love the last podcast, but I couldn't help but notice this is another. This is a different reason for having a guy like Raymond. Oh, yes. I'm ready to do it. But there was another listener who emailed in. It was also called Raymond. Normally, this wouldn't be a problem. But my father was a lazy son of a biscuit and named me after himself.

But, you know, it is a problem. I can't have my buds listen to hear you guys mention multiple raymonds my poor dumb friends will get bewildered and confused so i officially challenge this other ray to a duel oh please provide some challenge for the duel or no sorry please provide some challenge or duel for me to defend my good name and claim ultimate victory do you want to set up a duel or do you want to just go One's Raymond 1 Or one's Raymond 2 Yeah but who's who

That's the question I think we should do standard versus rules One at each end of a football field They run at each other We see what happens There we go If you guys could exchange addresses that would be great Find a point equal distance

To your places that has a football field. And if you could just... The winner could please email us. Thank you. That would be amazing. I love it, Stan. The least work involved for us, the better, I think. Definitely.

Thank you, Raymond. And other Raymond. Raymond's. Oh, and Brett H. This is from Robbie. I know you sometimes feature silly DVD combo packs on your show and while it's not a DVD pack, I have something I related to share to you. I found

this at a video rental store so I'm just going to show you the picture of that. Okay. I'm ready. It's Videoland and it offers games, DVD and tanning. Yeah, good, great. Love it. Is there like a curtain that they pull across for the tanning?

Maybe. Can you watch a DVD while you tan? Yeah. You couldn't because you'd get UV lights in your eyeballs. Maybe it's spray tan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, maybe. But then you'd get spray tan in your eyeball, which in many ways is worse.

Yeah, that's great. It isn't a DVD pack, but that's okay. It's like a DVD pack in real life. It is like, yeah. And the fact that there's a video store that exists is also amazing. There's many things going on there. Maybe they're slowly transitioning just to tanning. That must be it.

Yeah. Absolutely. People still buy games though, don't they? I really don't know. Yeah. I think they just steal them from the internet now. Also, like, I remember like I've gone to a video store and they'll be like you can hire this game like i can buy that game for like six bucks like exactly you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah uh anyway that's from uh what was it uh

it's from robbie and it's in a little town in jonesville louisiana population 2265 a very tanned 2265 no doubt so. Loved it. Now, remember last week when Adam West wrote in? Oh, yes. Turns out it wasn't the TV Adam West. It was a regular Adam West. Yes. Regular Joe Sixpack, also Adam West. But you said, I think it was you,

do you get harassed with people being like, with Batman merchandise? And that's why you became a fan of comic books and that stuff. Yes, absolutely. He's written back in. Yes. He says, I was actually born Adam Westerholm, but sometime in grade school I decided to shorten it, not legally,

because I didn't like writing out my full name, and people began to know me by that. So unfortunately my life hasn't been some weird pop culture hell. People still often bring it up to me, acting like I don't know who Adam West is, though. Again, give all the great work, and thanks for reading my email last week. That's good.

I think that's the best case scenario for that name. Definitely, yeah. So like he's gone, he's made the choice to shorten it himself and he's just, he lives with it and he's cool with it. Love it. And occasionally some idiot reminds him. So yeah, good stuff.

This is from Mark though. Sounds like a threat. Yes, it is. My arch nemesis Mark. we go he said uh this could be a three second topic for you guys to touch on this is our last letter by the way i'm ready so many letters this week and so many good ones uh into the bin god damn it in last episode you guys read a letter from a fan named adam west i don't recall that i don't recall any details of that i thought he was uh destined to be the subject of 60s Batman, another comic book, and Nerdum.

Does Mason, though, get subjected to Pink Floyd in the same way? The drummer from Pink Floyd is, was Nick Mason. Mason, correct, yes. I don't know him. I don't. I'm aware of that. Yeah. I'm aware of who he is.

My parents claim they didn't know that he was a drummer for Pink Floyd but I've seen Dark Slumber Moon on their record collection so I think they definitely did no nobody knows who Nick Mason

from Pink Floyd is well he's a drummer from an oldish band yeah is he dead? no he's still alive okay good I should check

because if he is dead I'm the most famous one that's correct that's probably true actually oh this could be great I'm the most famous one. That's correct. That's probably true, actually. Oh, this could be great. I'm going to Google you now. Okay, good.

He had an album called Nick Mason's Fictitious Sports. Okay. I've never listened to it. He's still alive. He's still alive. Yep. One day ago, I'm not entirely sure Pink Floyd is over. That's a statement from him. There he is.

What a nice looking... Isn't Pink Floyd dead, though? The man Yes Correct What was his statement sorry Something about Pink Floyd Cool Yeah

What a surprise They asked him for details About Pink Floyd And he answered them He looks like a nice man He does look like a nice man He looks like somebody's grandad He does

He definitely is somebody's grandad Born in 44 It says Okay Nick Mason You're one two Three four Five, four, five, six. You're the six one down. There you go. Your Twitter page.

There you go. Isn't that nice? So, yeah. One day, though. And there's a look at my car collection on YouTube. Oh, no, wait. It's a different one. A different car collection.

Yes. Yeah. Great. That's fantastic. And that's the show for this week. Well, we learnt something about you yep

we learnt nothing else absolutely this entire time we certainly didn't inform anyone of anything else so there we are

yeah there we are yeah now basically we talked about this last week I've set up the Patreon

oh yes Patreon slash Mr. Sunday Movies love it I'm gonna look up the official thing right now

fantastic because I probably should have done this before. No, we're too busy. Yeah. Eating pizzas and getting drunk, so whatever. Hang on. Sorry.

I should have really... What is it? It's 1.20 in the morning on a Saturday night. Some people are usually out or in bed, not recording a podcast. I think these days, though, a lot of people are recording a podcast at this point. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah.

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I thought you were going to say to keep our will up. To keep our will up. To keep our will to live going. And basically, like, if you do that, you'll get access to, I've created a second YouTube channel. I've put some old videos up there, and we're doing a new video game series occasionally. Sure.

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Because that is our goal. Yeah, that's a really good goal. To have $82 million. I think that's reasonable. Yeah. But you can put anywhere in between that if you want. And basically what I've written here as well, or what we've written here is,

and you said this, if you want to donate, you can. If you don't, that's absolutely fine. We're not hurting for cash. No, exactly. If the money falls out of your pocket... We're all billionaires. Yes, that's right. We're just doing this on a lark. Yeah, if the money falls out for cash no exactly if the money falls out of your pocket we're all billionaires yes we're just doing this on a lark yeah if the money falls out of your pocket and you don't notice like that's the amount if it hurts you in any way or if you want to pull

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Like, we'll do one a day for, like, two years. What we'll do... And then release them forever. What I think we should do is we should... If we get $82 million, what we do, every episode we buy a high-performance sports car and we record in that as we drive it like off a pier maybe yeah and that's every episode absolutely yeah even like comedians in cars

getting coffee it's literally podcasters in really expensive cars recording a podcast and driving it into a river i love it or an ocean whatever yeah anywhere where you can get a car near water thank you yes yes yeah absolutely also i was thinking of as i mentioned the website mr sunday movies i'm getting built at the moment i got a friend of mine helping me oh yes it's coming together really well i think i can't tell i don't know building websites way more difficult than it should be or it's exactly as difficult as it should be or it's really easy you get this guy you pull him up you say hey mate what's the deal chop chop the website so yeah that'll be that'll be up soon because i'm shifting everything from Or it's really easy. You get this guy, you pull him up, you say, hey, mate, what's the deal? Chop, chop.

The website. So, yeah, that'll be up soon because I'm shifting everything from including this podcast. We're going to shift it all hopefully away from YouTube onto that. It'll still be on YouTube, but everything will go there. Yeah, yeah. So, we've got our own platform, don't we? Yeah. Yeah.

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