The Weekly Planet - 580 28 Years Later (23 Years Later)
Episode Date: June 23, 2025It’s been 23 years in the makes but the long awaited sequel to 28 Days Later (and 28 Weeks Later) is finally here! With Danny Boyle and Alex Garland returning some people are like ‘we hate this!�...� Plus we talk John Bernthal’s The Punisher returning for Spider-Man: Brand New Day, Tom Rhys Harries playing Clayface, Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow retitled, James Gunn thinks superhero showdowns are stupid and his thoughts on the MCU decline, Ballerina, Thunderbolts and Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning underperforming, no Transformers One Two, our first look at He-Man in Masters of the Universe, trailers for Naked Gun 2025 and SpaceBalls 2 plus more! Thanks for listeningNew bonus clickbait podcast episode out now! Plus entire back-catalogue of let's play videos, bonus podcasts, movie commentaries, early access and ad-free episodes all available on https://bigsandwich.coPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start04:18 The Punisher in Spider-Man 4 Movie08:53 Clayface Movie Actor Cast11:56 Supergirl Movie's Title14:10 Superman's Power Level in New DCU16:33 James Gunn Shoots Down MCU Debate18:55 Movies Behaving Badly at Box Office25:44 Transformers One Sequel Not Happening27:56 He-Man Movie First Look29:10 Naked Gun Trailer32:11 Spaceballs 2 Trailer34:33 28 Years Later Movie Review56:33 28 Years Later Spoiler Segment01:11:14 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:17:18 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Weekly Planet Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet.
Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies
and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always is my co-host, Nick
Mason.
It's great to be here.
I've always wondered of the logic behind what you're doing, just generally, but also with
the can opening thing.
Are you sort of, are you adopting a real kind of like,
is it meant to be like a laid-back vibe? We're all cracking a can.
Is that what you're taking from it?
I think so.
Then yes. It's open to interpretation. It's like how what does reservoir dogs mean?
Reservoir dogs.
Reservoir dogs mean. It's French.
What does it mean? What does the entire movie?
Because Quentin Tarantino is like, he's asked like, what does the title mean? Like he's been asked, he's
like, well, what does it mean to you? Because when I tell you what it means, then that becomes
the official explanation. What do you bring to me?
This is a real death of the author situation.
No, it's a real reservoir dog situation.
Because you know what it means, but you want us to take our own interpretation.
I know exactly what it means. But I love your interpretation, which may be right.
I think it's, I always thought it was a vibe kind of thing, like a laid back vibe.
But is it a party situation?
I guess people can tell. No, the can thing.
I think the can thing, I guess you can take from it whatever you want.
It's not for me to say.
I guess me overanalyzing it is ruining it for a lot of people right now.
When your art is out in the world, that no longer belongs to you.
It's true. Death of the author or the Mason Reservoir Dogs.
The Reservoir Dogs situation.
Anyway, yeah, it's a big week for movies. Death of the author or the Mason reservoir dogs. Reservoir dog situation.
Anyway, it's a big week for movies.
What do you think reservoir dogs means?
What do I think it means?
No, just a bunch of scummy dudes.
Yeah, right.
Because, you know, in Melbourne, reservoir is full of scum.
It is. It's full of scummy dudes. That's coming up.
My grandma used to live there.
Well, yeah, then she died.
Now it's coming up. That's one of the scummy dudes. That's coming up. My grandma used to live there. Well, yeah, then she died. Now it's coming up.
That's right.
God bless her.
But I guess, but also there's a movie from years ago, I can't remember who directed it.
It's probably one of the Cullen Brothers or something.
But it's got Clooney in it.
It's called Welcome to Collinwood.
Not Collingwood, but welcome to...
Where is that from?
It's from the late 90s, early 2000s.
Yeah.
It's got George Clooney and it's got Sam Rockwell.
Sam Rockwell, William H Macy
directed it? Anthony Russo and Joe Russo. Russo brothers there we go I knew it was somebody I
remembered. What is this? I knew it was somebody I remembered but it's about a bunch of down and outs doing like
like like in the olden times doing like a safe heist. Okay is it good? Yeah.
55% Rotten Tomatoes can't be that good. I liked it. Yeah.
I'm just saying.
55% Rotten Tomatoes.
I think I bought the DVD for a dollar.
So like for a dollar it was worth it.
It's pretty good for a dollar.
But anyway, even though it's not Collingwood in Melbourne, similar down and out vibe.
Sure.
Okay.
Interesting.
You know, Collingwood.
I know what it's like.
You know what Collingwood and Reservoir are like?
You're ready to pass judgement on those.
Scumbags.
Yeah, scumbags.
That's what I'm saying.
Absolutely scumbags. Yeah. If you moved there, you're a scumbag. If you lived there and you moved out,ags. Yeah, scumbags. That's what I'm saying.
Absolutely scumbags.
If you moved there, you're a scumbag.
If you lived there and you moved out, you're still a scumbag.
That's exactly right.
Stay where you are.
If you've spent even a moment there, like I have.
What?
Scumbag.
Now that tracks.
If you've ever driven through a scumbag.
Mason, it's 28 years later time.
It is true.
Or as I like to call it, 23 years later.
That's a little joke.
That's from me to you.
Can I use that?
Yeah, you can use it, but you have to say that I told you it every time you use it.
Okay. All right.
So that's...
What happened to Death of the Author, man?
Reservoir Dogs.
What happened to Reservoir Dogs, man?
I thought your art was free.
Not this one.
Okay.
We've also got a bit of news in the lead up.
There's time codes below if you're doing a jump to anything.
Rob Colling's the one who edits this.
He makes sure they're down in the description.
That's right. We're going to talk about The Punisher's
next appearance and how it's in Spider-Man movie.
Ooh, the rumours were right.
They were right probably. We're going to talk about casting for the DCU movie Clayface.
We're going to talk about a new title for Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, the Supergirl
movie.
It's just Supergirl.
Yeah, and what James Gunn thinks about this character versus that character, etc. Plus
he talks about the decline of Marvel. He said they're bad now, that's what he said, but then he clarified some stuff. That's right.
Then I want to talk about some movies that underperformed, because it's been a big
underperforming year Mason for big movies. And overperforming for some stuff. That's true.
Sinners did well. Some things did too well like the movie Sinners. They did too well.
Yeah. Then we're going to talk about Transformers 1-2 and then we're going to talk about He-Man, because there's a picture of He-Man sort of, and then we're going to talk about Transformers 1-2 and then we're going
to talk about He-Man because there's a picture of He-Man sort of and then we're going to
talk about some trailers including Naked Gun and Spaceballs. It's a big comedy week. We
just missed this Spaceballs trailer. A big week for comedies that are going to underperform
as is par for this year. Absolutely and that's what we love. That's right. Let's start with
this via variety. The Punisher's John Berenthal from the accountant
in the account want. He's going to appear in Spider-Man Brand New Day, which is the
fourth MCU Spider-Man solo movie. But not solo, obviously. None of them have been a
solo movie. Is this a rights issue that's never been publicly addressed? Because you
know how we talked about how Hulk is partially owned by Universal or something
like that, the movie rights, so he can't have a solo movie anymore.
Is this a thing that they've just never addressed?
For The Punisher or Spider-Man?
For Spider-Man, because the Spider-Man rights are partially owned by Sony.
It's still owned by Sony.
Does that mean he can't truly have a solo movie
There has to be an iron man or a if he's in the if it's the MCU one
Yeah, then Marvel have most creative control. Yeah, and they can lend him out for them
So you but also like, you know, it's been
You know, it's it's been iron man and then Nick Fury. Yeah, and then
Other spider-man. Yes. Yeah, I don't know
I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I don't know you but we're having a good time. That's true
Yeah, it's happy Hogan in spider-man 3 he is and daredevil. Yeah. Yeah, maybe I think it just
It solidifies those movies as real movies. That's the actual spider. As opposed to the actual Sony Spider-Man spinoff movies,
which aren't real movies.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
None of those are real movies.
Because otherwise, Sony would have,
if they don't put in legit other Marvel characters,
they'd have to use, again, they'd have to attempt to use
a lot of Spider-Man's supporting cast.
They'd be like, look out, it's a wide-winged foot.
Oh, that's good.
It is good.
This rumor, there was a long-standing rumor that this
Spider-Man movie was gonna be a street level Spider-Man movie. Yeah. It's gonna
be Spider-Man and the Punisher team up to fight the Hulk. That's right. Yeah. That
was from the Hot Mic podcast. I think that was one of the first times that was
revealed. One of the first appearances of Hot Mic. Was that true?
How's he looking? A wreck this guy. No. Yeah the fame got to him. What happened to
him? And then he had too many botched surgeries. Oh no. Yeah yeah yeah because he broke this story and he got beat. You could fix that with more
surgeries though couldn't you? Absolutely. Push through. Yeah. It's a horseshoe theory of surgeries. Yeah.
You come around and you. Or you can get that one where they just pull your entire face back
and you look incredible. You know there's that one guy? Yeah yeah yeah. We know who he's done it to.
He looks really good. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess is this also kind of a World War Hulk situation?
Or maybe.
Planet Hulk, which is the one where Hulk tries to take over Earth and he's sort of a villain.
That's...
I think it's World War Hulk.
That's World War Hulk.
Planet Hulk is when he goes to...
They did that.
They did a Thor Ragnarok, which was sort of...
But do we know the Hulk is confirmed for this?
No, that's the rumor, that it's going to be Bruce Banner.
What's his name?
The actor. Mark Ruffalo.
Who is still smart Hulk at the moment, maybe.
He went back.
He went to regular man in She-Hulk,
and then he went back to Hulk because he had a car crash.
That's true.
Yeah.
Confirmed.
OK, but in She-Hulk, did he go, he was regular Mark Ruffalo,
and then later in the season, he was smart Hulk again.
Was there a moment where he was like Savage Hulk?
We don't really see it, though. I think so. Because there's a moment where he changed. There he's in the car crash, and he changes back. Oh, yeah, he does smart Hulk again. Was there a moment where he was like savage Hulk? We don't really see it
though.
Because there's a moment where he
changed. He's in the car crash and he
changes back.
Is he briefly monstrous Hulk?
Maybe he is. Maybe he's during the
transformation.
Yeah, maybe. Maybe this takes place
between then.
Between those split seconds.
In those split seconds.
That's probably true.
I think that's good.
Frank, we've got to team up and stop
that. Oh, it's fine.
He's fine. He's going back to normal.
Yeah.
How do you feel about that?
The Punisher being cinematic.
I would like to see more tactical Punisher stuff and not just run in and just run around
Punisher.
Well he's going to be doing a lot of running around.
Yeah, but you know he's...
The very nature of the Spider-Man franchise and doing this in the MCU and a big cinematic
kind of thing.
It requires him to just do running around.
Yeah, but you know in Daredevil, the last season that came out born again, skip ahead
if you don't want to hear this.
When he appears in that, he's like, I don't want to fight.
I'm not the Punisher.
I'm a guy.
And then he decides to fight, but then he-
Actually, I'm going to fight.
And then he gets captured immediately, which I guess may be part of his larger plan, but he just felt like he half-assed that kind of...
And you know, if you look at like Punisher Warzone...
You want a full arcing.
Yeah, I want to get your full arcing to a barren fall.
And we'll see.
We'll see, Mason.
It's good. Good things are good.
And bad things, they're not as good.
Yeah.
But they can still be fun.
You excited for his second season of American Gigolo? Full arcing it?
I haven't seen that yet. I didn't watch first season. I watched some of it. And? It's alright. Yeah. Yeah. But they can still be fun. You excited for his second season of American Gigolo? Full arseing it? I haven't seen that yet. I didn't watch first season. I watched some of it. And? It's alright. Yeah. Yeah. And that's television. That's right. It's alright.
There's so much, there's too much.
Mason. Yes. The DCU has confirmed a new actor. Oh.
Welsh actor Tom Rhys Harries
Welsh actor Tom Rhys Harrys will play Clayface in the Mike Flanagan sort of rote body horror movie which they then maybe rewrote because it wasn't a real
script or something. Something like that. Now I only know that him from the
episode of Doctor Who from the previous season where he's like it's the planet
of the influencers episode where he's like the most he's the most famous
influencer. He's got a good look. Yeah.
Like he's got the, he looks like, he looks very modern, but I feel like he's got, he's
got like a Peter O'Toole, you know, like the high cheekbones Lawrence of Arabia kind of
like.
When I saw him, I'm like, oh, they'll do the, the actor version.
Matt.
No, no, sorry.
That they're doing, apparently according to the rap, they're doing Matt Hagen.
Okay.
So he's not the actor.
But the actor one is, um, yeah, but. They're doing, apparently, according to the rap, they're doing Matt Hagen. Okay, so he's not the actor. But the actor one is...
Basil Carla.
Yeah, but I guess they could mesh.
They could merge like a clay face.
Because the second, this would be, if they go with this guy,
it's the second version of a clay face,
and he first appeared in Detective Comics 298,
and he's a treasure hunter who gains shapeshifting abilities
from a radioactive pool of protoplasm.
Correct.
That's not as interesting as an actor.
Correct, yes.
Spinning out.
But I mean, he could, I mean-
He could do both.
He could do both, but you know-
And apparently the script's incredible in body horror.
Yeah, okay.
What do you think?
I think he's got a good look, why not?
And they have to put a weird one in the first ECU slate,
because James Gunn did say it's gods and monsters.
Oh, he did, so he needs a monster.
He's got to put a monster in there.
He's got a monster in. Sure's got a monster in. Yeah.
Sure they did create your commanders but it doesn't count.
It's a cartoon.
Yeah.
It's nothing.
It's not real.
You look at it.
Somebody drew it.
It's not real.
This is real.
If they even drew it maybe they could computer do it.
Maybe they could computer do it.
If it computed it I would be fucking furious Mason.
You know me.
But you just said it doesn't count.
Yeah I'd be mad at it though.
Don't you think?
I guess you can do two things.
I guess you can not care and be mad about it.
Thank you.
So yeah, I'm interested to see where...
Reservoir dog situation.
Thank you for saying that.
Two years away at least, I would say.
So yeah, 2027 and beyond.
Yeah.
Lower budget as well, apparently.
Jantion also mentioned that even though Guillermo del Toro is like, I would love to do Justice
League Dark, he's like, he's never spoken to me about it.
James Gunn has never spoken to him about it.
Yeah.
Interesting.
But he's like, I would, I would like to talk to him about that.
So I don't know, man.
A lot of people out there just-
Stop making Pacific Rim sequels or whatever you're doing.
No, he's doing Frankenstein for Netflix.
He's doing Frankenstein.
I think that's finished.
So, ah, James.
Oh, yeah.
Just a lot of people talking at each other through social media.
Yeah.
Take a meeting, guys.
Get off your phones, fellas.
Yeah, what are you doing?
And ladies.
Get off your phones and get on your real phone.
Your talking phone.
Your talking phone that you talk on.
And talk to James Gunn.
God, imagine calling someone.
Ugh, yeah.
Yuck.
Yeah.
You're not even a millennial Guillermo del Toro.
Nah, man.
You're from the 70s or something. Or something. We don't know where you're from. Yeah. You're watching black a millennial Guillermo del Toro. You're from the 70s or something.
Something.
We don't know where you're from.
You're watching black and white movies probably.
Probably.
We don't like that.
Just Plan 9 from Outer Space constantly on loop in your house.
Yeah, man.
Make a phone call.
Make a phone call.
Call someone.
James Gunn.
Yeah, well this is why I'm Rolling Stone.
So James Gunn confirmed that Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow based on the comic of the same
name is probably just going to be called Superman.
He said-
It's going to be called Superman.
Sorry, Supergirl.
God.
Amazing.
I made a huge error there.
James.
And I'm going to let you forget it.
You're going to let me forget it?
Yeah.
I feel like you're going to remind me of it.
No, no.
No, no.
Let bygones be bygones.
I feel like you're going to clip this and send it to me.
That's what I think. That's right. I'm going to learn how to do that later in I feel like you're going to clip this and send it to me. That's what I think.
That's right.
I'm going to learn how to do that later in the week and I'm going to clip it and send
it to you.
I look forward to it.
James Gunn said, I'm sick of the superhero title, colon, other name thing.
I guess that means if he's doing sequels to things, I guess it'd be like Batman Begins
or the Dark Knight style naming of stuff.
It's amazing that the Dark Knight wasn't called Batman Begins colon the Dark Knight
really in hindsight. So yeah I'm open to this. Maybe the year of
colons is over. I hope not. They do so much for us. Yeah I agree but you know maybe they've
run their course. Also I think enough time has passed that I can say I do not
like the Nolan trilogy naming. I think it's bad. Like the I don't like the
last name. Well I don't like that it's the Batman begins the Dark Knight then
the Dark Knight rises. I agree. I hate it. It's awful. Big mistake. What should I
call the last one? Batman how did he get out of... Big Batman's big last adventure. Yeah.
Yeah. How did he get out of Gotham with the nuclear bomb? We'll never know. Yeah, I'll never tell you. Yeah. No, I remember hearing the Dark Knight rises and going really. Mm-hmm
Yeah, even Batman Begins Rises, I think is a good title. Is the mistake calling the second one the Dark Knight?
I think it is. I think it's I don't know if that's a mistake, but I think they went that's the biggest movie we've ever made
Yeah, that's our brand now we've ever made. Yeah. That's our brand now.
Because it's called the Dark Knight trilogy.
Yeah.
Even though the first one's not called the Dark Knight colon, Batman Begins.
That's true.
Yeah.
Brackets.
Lot of time in the snow.
Running around in the woods.
You know?
Does he run around the woods?
No, I don't think he ever ran around in the woods.
That's probably why they didn't call it that.
Yeah.
I don't think at any point he runs around the woods. I should watch those movies. You should finally watch them. Yeah, I will. think he ever ran around in the woods. That's probably why they didn't call it that. I don't think at any point he runs around.
You should watch those movies.
You should finally watch them.
Yeah, I will.
You've been faking it mostly for decades at this point.
People know.
I've had a lot of comments.
And Mason, James Gunn said on who Superman would beat in a fight.
I mean, people are constantly talking about it.
Some podcasts, not to name names, do episodes entirely around one character versus another
character and who would win embarrassing slop absolutely slop yeah
we should do another one of those actually yeah we should so yeah our
sloppiest ever he said I wanted Superman to be vulnerable I see the things online
who would beat whom Homelander or Superman or fucking whatever
Superman would beat home yeah it's not even a. He's only the strongest guy in that universe.
Yeah.
Adam Warlock or Brightburn.
And I'm like, this is the fucking stupidest fucking conversation.
Like so.
I mean Brightburn.
Brightburn would beat Adam Warlock?
He'd beat MCU Adam Warlock.
Yeah, that's probably true.
He wouldn't beat comic book Adam Warlock.
Yeah, that's yeah.
Like so, whoever would win this fight means that they're the best.
Because I'll just go out and write God Man Who can destroy with a wink and I win?
I mean all the fights are about I'm pretty sure James Gunn you would be sue because there's already a God man
Oh, yeah, and also we're creating a whole universe now. So what's a girl with wings gonna do in the face?
Oh, but I didn't want Superman who could punch planets and also we're creating a whole new universe now
So what's a girl with wings gonna do in the face of that?
I think Superman's gonna if this goes for a decade or so, I think he's gonna get more
powerful as he goes.
So he's a little less powerful, Guy Gardner's pretty fucking powerful, they're all pretty
powerful.
Honestly, in talking to people, a lot of people are also like, I like Batman better because
it can actually be beat, and I get that.
Did James Gunn do the voice?
I like Batman better.
Sometimes I talk to people, you know, and they go, meh, meh. Did James Gunn do the voice? I like Batman better. Sometimes I talk to people and they go,
BWAH!
BWAH!
They do though, don't they?
Yeah, they do actually, a lot of the time.
So we have a Superman that can be beat.
Looks like that, and in the trailer, he's certainly, the dog beats him up as well.
That's true.
Which I think is bad.
Yeah.
And that's bad writing.
Every man and his dog beats him up.
So there you go.
Yeah, he's definitely, from the yeah, he's definitely from the trailers.
He's definitely a scaled down superman.
And I think that, that appeals to a lot of people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause he's crying and such.
He's crying and such.
Not long now, July 11th, some people are seeing it in advance.
Yeah, some people are getting ahead of it.
Not us.
I mean, waiting on that email.
Someone actually go to that one.
Yeah.
See it in IMAX.
Yeah.
The eve, the afternoon before. Yeah. Look at that.
Yeah. Look at that big, that big googly-eyed shot that. Yeah. Well, he took that out apparently.
Oh, Cameron. Coward. I know. I agree. We want a googly Superman. I want a googly Superman.
And he mentioned this on The Decline of Marvel. Executive producer Lewis,
De Esposito said, they put out too much privately to me.
I don't even know if that's really their fault.
That wasn't fair.
It wasn't right.
And it killed them.
We have to treat every project as if we're lucky.
We don't have the mandate to have a certain amount of movies and TV shows every year.
And he said this on threads later to be clear.
Yes.
And as is clear in the context of the interview, I didn't say it killed them like they're over, but they were screwed by the situation they had no control over. They're
on the other side of that now, which is good. So there you go.
Are they on the other side of it though? We don't know. We'll find out in like one
to two years when stuff comes out. Imagine if Kevin Feige had retired officially
at like an end game. And then all this would be happening, Pip would be like, well, that's
because Kevin Feige left. But now it is happening because Kevin Feige officially it like an end game. It's like I'm done. And then all this would be happening, but it would be like, well, that's because
Kevin Feige left and-
But now it is happening because Kevin Feige is still there.
He must leave.
Like sometime in the near future.
No, in the near future, right?
Like he'd have to step away.
I think I saw a tweet that said he was leaving
after Doomsday, but-
Maybe he is.
Or Secret Wars, but I'm gonna, you know, maybe-
I wonder if he left at Doomsday and he's like,
last one, somebody else's problem.
Yeah, that'd be great. Secret Wars, not my problem.
Don't give a shit.
Yeah. Unless it makes a billion dollars, in which case I did it.
I laid the groundwork for two decades, if you don't mind.
Which is fine, I guess.
I read a thing, I don't know where.
Twitter?
Yeah, probably.
Substack?
I doubt it was on Twitter.
Might have been on Substack.
Medium.com?
Sometimes I got a Twitter by accident, like I'll click a link and it takes me over and I'm like, oh no, I'm stuck in this.
Where apparently they're going back to more ground level TV shows and they're doing the
bigger events in the movies, which is what they were basically doing before the Disney
Plus stuff.
They've done a test run for a few years of not that and it didn't work.
Putting their secret invasions on the television.
At least that was a good one.
That was a good one.
It did have the most powerful being in the universe, a woman who could change her arms
into anybody's arms.
That's true.
That's true.
Think of all the...
Imagine you had that power in real life.
Think about whose arms you could change your arms into.
The Rock.
Yep.
Mark Wahlberg.
Mark Wahlberg.
Yep. Rosa Parks. Do you think? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. The Rock. Yep. Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg. Yep.
Rosa Parks.
You think?
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah. That would be brave of me.
I think so.
And I do it.
Cause that's how I am.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
So speaking of things like underperforming.
Yes.
You probably read, but ballerina is not doing super well.
I didn't read that.
Thanks for bringing it up now.
You're welcome. I was in the middle of a podcast. I'm trying to keep the energy up and you're like, oh, ballerina is not doing super well. I didn't read that. Thanks for bringing up now They're welcome. I was in the middle of a podcast. I'm trying to keep the energy up and you're like ballerina
I'll get the energy up. You just feel your feelings. All right, this is sad. I'm sad old used to me
All right, keep it inside though. Yeah, nobody wants to hear you shit
Let's go it's got like a
So, it's got like a 70 to 80 million dollar budget and it's just not going to make its money back.
So, which might end the John Wick spin off stuff potentially.
They're probably like setting some subtle text to Keanu Reeves.
You know, he's always giving away his money.
You know, he's always like, you know, he gave away like 50 million dollars of his Matrix
sequels money and all that sort of stuff.
They're probably like, hey Keanu, this isn't doing that well.
We need 50 billion.
We can use 50 million.
I liked it.
I thought it was pretty good.
But hey, it is what it is.
And this is my world of real, in regards to Thunderbolts.
Apparently it needed 500 million to break even.
So it's going to probably lose about 100 million.
And according to Variety, Marvel Studios will start spending less money on their budget
For future films after the new Avengers, which is what it sort of titled bombed at the box office
Yeah, I mean I could have told you that
Prior to this movie coming out. Yeah, I guess I had to build that bunker
Yeah, they did and had to build that new door closed if they. And they had to build that New York Street. And the doors closed if they were real. They might have been fake CGI doors. Apparently that
New York Street isn't real. The whole street. That's the whole thing they built. Just use
regular New York I reckon. You can't mate, it's busy. Everyone's always getting a hot
dog. Okay but remember that time Vanilla Sky? Do you remember that? Oh yeah. They closed
that off didn't they? Yeah for like 15 minutes or whatever. Tom Cruise ran around. That's
right. Yeah.
And he's fast.
You couldn't do it with a slower actor.
It takes too long.
That's true, actually.
Yeah.
It's a shame.
It was a good movie.
I think so too.
But you know, sometimes good movies are bad and don't do well.
I mean, but you know, I feel like the lesson they should take from this is some of the
stuff isn't going to make a billion dollars.
Absolutely.
You know, and you take the good with the bad and some stuff takes a loss. Yeah. And you know, people see it later on streaming and etc. And that helps
build the brand like, like, again, we've talked about this all the time, like, old school movie
producing and movie studio stuff was they made 20 movies a year. Yeah, and some did okay. But it was
good. Yeah, but they cost like four or five million dollars a yeah, and then a couple of movies made were huge hits and paid for the rest kind of thing.
But what the lesson they appear to have taken from this is just lower the budgets all around.
Yeah, which makes which makes either the people are going to get the directors and producers are
going to have to get creative, or the movies are just going to look worse than they already do.
Do you have a there's a room do we have to see the rumor is that the director of
Thunderbolts is gonna do the X-Men movie?
Oh, what's his name?
Jake Shrine.
Yeah, I like that.
He clearly can do a team dynamic.
And he's sad.
Yeah.
He seems sad.
Oh my god, Mason.
Which I think would work for the X-Men.
You love being sad.
Yeah.
You brought that today.
Yeah.
I'm not allowed to say anything.
No, you shouldn't.
Yeah. That's great. Yeah. I think if he's, I mean, I think that anything. No, you shouldn't. Yeah
That's great. Yeah, I think if he's I mean, I think that that's also even though this movie is underperforming
If this is true, at least Marvel recognized that he did a good job. That's true Yeah, and he probably didn't I don't know like this is an Andy Machete situation. That's right
You know the flash underperform, but he did a good job. He did a good job and it's a good movie
That's right. Dean Cain should have been the The Flash. So he should have been that Superman.
Yeah.
Speaking of.
It's weird that he was the only one
that didn't get the call.
Completely agree.
We have been watching the Lewis and Clyde,
the new Adventures of Superman.
And also Adventures of Superman from 1952.
That's true, yeah.
So that's out this week for Caravanor Garbage.
We're doing some TV Superman stuff.
God, I'm having a great time though,
going through this stuff.
This old crap. Me too.
Yeah, right? It's great. Sometimes we were through this stuff. This old crap. Yeah, right?
Sometimes we were told crap and it's just crap.
It's just crap.
Sometimes it's crap, but it's fun.
This is charming crap.
Yeah, so that's fun.
And out this week.
Yeah, so speaking of things at bomb,
this is via World of Real.
No, sorry, this is via Box Office forecast.
Apparently Mission Impossible, the final reckoning
is set to lose.
Guess.
$300 million. That is dead on yes how'd
you do that i guess yeah that's like 500 probably too much too much you're right and it's doing okay
it's got to be a decent it's got to be like a big amount it's going to be a shocking headline yeah
because like this this is going to lose a million dollars who cares just get keanu reeves on the
horn get him on that he'll give you the money he'll sigh deeply and he'll give you the money
it's projected to end its theatrical run on $600 million, potentially failing to break
even with a production budget of $400 million. Must be nice.
You've got the whole crew going around to every city, eating weird foods for Lad Bible
and whatever. That's not free.
No. That costs money.
Ladbible they're going under. They did that as a favor. Did you know that?
No, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Wow.
I told you, I think it was Ladbible. Maybe it was Brobible. One of those.
Oh yeah. You didn't tell me this. Whatever it is, you didn't tell me.
Okay. So yeah, there's 16 bit scenes that go up on my channel. There's actually a new one.
John Stratton.
John Stratton. He's currently working on one at the moment. It's actually very exciting. But um,
You keep asking him to do 16-bit sex scenes. Yeah
Even though you refer to them as erotica
He knows he knows you're trying to trick him. Does he won't take you money. You figured that out didn't he?
You've been talking to him. Yeah, did you hit Did you tip him off? I did tip him off, yeah.
What are we talking about?
I forgot.
When, I can't remember which one it was, but whenever one of them would come out, I'd get
approached by like, Labbible or whatever.
Oh, can you share this?
And they'd be like, can we have this?
Yeah, right.
And just like, can you have it?
I mean, I can't stop you technically.
Yeah, I can't, yeah.
And people do, they get ripped all the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But um.
And so, the worst is when something's like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to
be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going stop you technically. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, but people do. They get ripped all the time.
Yeah. Yeah.
But um.
And so the worst is when something like that or somebody's piece of artwork or video or
whatever gets ripped off or some, you know, somebody's done a, you know, a really affect
heavy kind of, you know, little short film or whatever. And somebody will repost it and be
like, who made this? Let us know who made this? And it's like, you know.
You cut the credits out.
Yeah, you cut it.
There was a watermark at the bottom and you cut it off.
Like, not to get into specifics, but like those cost thousands of dollars, as they should,
because he takes fucking forever to make them and they're incredibly, not that wasn't there.
He takes fucking forever, Mason.
I'm sick of him.
And they're detailed and like we get this other guy, Kenny, Max, to do the music and
it's this whole thing and
Like I'm not just gonna give this to you. Yeah, it's crazy. It's out of your hands. It's a reservoir dog situations Thank you. Once it's out there Ladd Bible can have it
Or fuck Jerry, you know, whatever
Probably yeah, they probably sold around? Probably. Yeah.
They probably sold it for a lot of money.
So director Josh Cooley was at BotCon 25.
He directed Transformers 1.
And he was speaking about Transformers 1-2, which is the sequel to Transformers 1.
Now it was going to be a trilogy.
And the third one's going to be Transformers 1-2, Buckle My Shoe.
Yeah. Transform My Shoe? Yeah, that'sers one to buckle my shoe. Yeah transform my shoe
It was to be a trilogy but the first one cost 75 million dollars and it made a hundred twenty nine million despite being quite
Good pretty good
So that's not happening. They're not doing any more of those and I think they're kind of in a like a holding pattern for
Transformers slash GI Joe at the moment, trying to figure
out what to do with it.
That's true, yeah.
It seems.
What are you going to put in that warehouse?
What are they going to put in that warehouse?
I would say nothing.
Just keep it empty.
You think that's the smart move?
I think that's what they'll do.
I think this next Transformers movie is at least four years away.
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, they've got to figure out who's going to pay for it.
Yeah.
Because Hasbro don't want to pay for this anymore. I don't want to say Hasbro announced not that long ago.
We talked about it, but they're no longer co-funding any of these projects.
I guess since Battleship, you know, in 2012 or whatever it was,
we should watch that. No, we should.
No, we should do a Caravan of Garbage series on board games that became movies.
OK. Cluedo. Yep.
I don't know. What's the other one?
Give me another one. Clue. The American Okay. Cluedo. Yep. I don't know. What's the other one? Give me another one.
Clue. The American version of Cluedo. Oh, okay. I was gonna say you can't do Jumanji because Jumanji
wasn't a board game first. No, I don't think it was. Good. Let's keep it that way. Yeah. All right.
Speaking of toys. Americans. Clue everywhere else is called Cluedo. Just so you know. I didn't know it was
called Clue in America. Yeah, it is.
I guess the movie.
Let me just check something.
OK.
Boar...
Movies based on board games.
Here we go.
Game Night?
No.
No.
Clue the movie?
No.
Zathura?
No.
Ouija?
I guess, technically.
Yeah, I guess.
Is Ouija a board game?
I don't think of it as a board game.
No.
It's a party situation. No. I don't know about this, man. So I guess. Is Ouija a board game? I don't think of it as a board game. It's a party situation.
No. I don't know about this, man.
So I guess there's two, specifically.
Three if you count Ouija.
Which I don't. We'll find another one.
Zathura. Maybe the...
We did Zathura already.
Even if that is a board game.
Alright, Mason. Alright.
Speaking of 80s toy crap becoming movies.
We're going to first look at Nicholas Gal-Gilett-Zine as He-Man.
That's right.
In Master of the Universe, it's a silhouetted shot.
Mmm, that's right.
Is he looking He-Man enough for you?
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man. You excited for this?
Yep.
You excited for this movie, the main villain in this movie is Jared Leto?
Ah, stop it.
And also in real life, because he's a sex criminal, allegedly.
That's right. And everybody knew that for 20 years years. Yeah kept giving him work somehow. What's going
on? What is that? I don't know. Good agent? Very good agent. Maybe he's really good in the room.
You know you get him in there and he just charms the pants off you. Yeah maybe he's got, I mean he
looks like a man who has that lock-in stare kind of. He looks like a man I'd like to see get hit
by a bus. Interesting. Yeah. You, now to be clear you don't like to see get hit by a bus. Interesting. Yeah. Now to be clear,
you don't want him to get hit by a bus, but he looks like a man. He looks like a man that I would
like to get hit by a bus. Okay, right. But he is going to be in Tron. Yeah. And that's a movie that
I'm looking forward to, except that he's in it. So there you go. Anyway, He-Man excited. They're
posting teasers for like Moss Man and Lockjaw. Ialer and whatever. I think I saw Tealer. Yeah. I mean, it looks like
He-Man. Looks like He-Man for sure. He-Man. He-Man. All right. We're going to do trailers,
which means trailers are Hoi the Boat's here. Yep. Oh, really? Yeah. Snuck in and out it
seemed. Unbelievable. Oh, that is unacceptable to you as well.
Correct.
Interesting.
Because normally the trailer boat arrives with a loud honk and you're upset by that.
And now they've tried a different approach and now you're mad also.
Okay, well I guess this is-
I think you're just a hater.
I am a hater.
Yeah.
I would like to see that boat get hit by a bus.
So not-
I would like to see.
Okay, well alright.
Hypothetically.
Whatever the thing is, whatever the loophole I said.
Yeah. Hypothetically, whatever the loophole I said. First up we've got Naked Gun, full trailer for that, which is a Naked Gun reboot.
I didn't know Pamela Anderson was going to be in this.
Oh yeah, she's the...
Who played...
Anna Nicole Smith played that character?
Or was it Priscilla Bresley?
What am I thinking of?
Both of them were in previous Naked Guns, but I don't know who.
You're welcome.
Yes, that's right.
Cody Rhodes is in it.
Cody Rhodes.
Paul Walter House is in it. He's great. Obviously Liam Neeson is Frank Drebben Jr.
This is fun.
Danny Houston from...
The Dad.
From 30 Days and 9 Nights.
Busta Rhymes is in it.
Yeah.
Great. Okay. Good gags. I don't know. Look, it gives me...
It's a very silly...
It gives me Zucka Brothers vibes in a good way. And it's Akiva Schaefer.
Yeah, he gets it, I think. This is a lot of fun. I like the bit where he collects a coffee while he's driving down the highway.
Yep, that's fun.
There's a man's laughter joke, which I thought was good.
People are liking that.
I've seen this in the theater and people are liking that OJ Simpson joke.
Oh, okay, cool.
Where his son is like, nah.
Not this one.
No.
So he directed pop star Never Stop Never Stopping, which is great.
He recently did Chippendale Rescue Rangers, which was better than it should have been.
Yeah.
And he's written on a bunch of stuff, which like including Palm Springs and other things Mason. Did he do that Wimbledon, Andy Samberg short documentary? No idea.
You've made that up, I'm pretty sure. No, it's good. You're imagining challenges,
but it had Andy Samberg. No Mason, it's called Seven Days in Howl. It's a sport documentary
from 2015. Okay. It's quite funny. Who's directed this? I'm looking at this trailer. No, it's not him. He's pulled this guy's arms off. That's fun. That's good, isn't it? Yeah, it's quite funny. It's who's directed this so I'm looking at this trailer. It's not him
He's pulled this guy's arms off. That's fine. That's good. Isn't it? Yeah, it's good. Anyway comedies are back
I think it's good to have silly comedies
Really do silly comedies that much anymore on as movies
I guess agreed you get a silly comedy from like an Auntie Donna for example. They should do a movie
Don't you think yeah, let's we should suggest that to them. Yeah, you should just do a movie
Not done that yeah, yeah, is it because we haven't suggested it to them? I think so
probably yeah. They're taking that tour around the globe by the way. You should get
tickets. A Drem tour yeah good luck. Good luck getting tickets. Yeah good luck
idiots. Yeah oh the bit where Pamela Anderson she takes the seat.
That's good. Yeah. You might be like that's an old joke but I think it worked.
He needs to go to the toilet. Some people it's come come around again. A lot of people didn't see that joke.
Oh yeah, uh-huh.
It's been 40 years of not seeing that joke.
That's true.
It's fresh and new.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, I'm excited.
Cool.
Then we've got Spaceballs,
which is more of a crawl than anything else.
Yeah.
It confirms of the returning cast,
it's Mel Brooks, Rick Moranis, Bill Pullman.
Rick Moranis, that's a surprise. He hasn't been around since that Ryan Reynolds Mint Mobile commercial he got him for.
And he's turned down two Ghostbusters sequels.
Good.
They would have thrown a lot of money at it for those.
I'm sure they would have.
Those movies are bad though.
I mean they're all bad, but those movies are bad also.
This one's probably the 2016 one.
It's most probably the freshest and most invented.
What do you think? No, I don't think that yeah
Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm right anyways
It's also got Bill Pullman and Daphne
Zeninga, okay, who plays the princess layer
But also return not returning new cat new actors include Josh Gad. Okay. We don't have a John Candy. No, unfortunately.
Kiki Palmer. Lewis Pullman is in this. Oh, because son of Bill Pullman. Son of Bill Pullman.
They're gonna do some sort of father-son situation. Or maybe he's in flashbacks. I don't know.
I don't know. All the Mel Brooks most recent stuff, apparently, I haven't seen any of it,
is like not great. I know he did the big history of everything again or whatever.
It was like a TV show.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
He's also 150 years old.
Yeah.
98.
Yeah, he's 98.
When this comes out, he'll be 100 years old.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
And this was going to be originally called, or the joke was Spaceballs, the question.
Search for my money.
Yeah, here we go.
Yeah. And for people who don't know, Spaceballs is question. Search for more money. Yeah, here we go.
For people who don't know, Spaceballs is a parody of Star Wars that came out...
...84 maybe?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rick Moranis was Dark Helmet.
Yep, 87.
Bill Pullman was kind of the Han Solo character.
Slash Luke Skywalker.
Yeah, yeah. It was very, you know, it was very...
...yeah, airplane naked gun, kind of fun
vibes. Yeah, and the crawl references all the stuff that's happened in between Space
balls 1 and now. So including all the MCU stuff, a bunch of Jurassic Park movies, you
know, a bunch of failed DCU stuff.
God, so much stuff.
Poking a bit of fun.
Poking a bit of fun is fun.
Think Mel Brooks wrote that or you think somebody else did? A young person.
I don't think he would know what any of those things are.
Correct.
And he shouldn't.
Agreed.
Alright, should we move it along?
Let's move it along.
I'm ready.
I'm ready too.
Well, let's, we both agree.
Let's we both agree.
Let's we both agree.
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23 years later, the long-awaited safe wall. Oh, I see what you're doing.
Okay. To 28 days later.
Sometimes it's hard to know whether you're doing a joke or you've made a mistake.
Or I'm a moron. Because you've done so many of one thing and so few of the other.
You know what I mean?
Which is which?
Don't answer that question.
Don't answer it, anybody.
Okay.
Yeah, of course there was the movie 28 Weeks Later, which came out in 2007, but a lot of
people say that that one...
Had Jeremy Renner in it.
A lot of people are saying that, and it pales in comparison to the first.
Did you see it?
I saw it, yeah. You seen it? You seen this? I think it's okay. I don't remember.
First one's incredible. We've done a commentary on it. Second one is... I mean this is a cast
28 weeks later. Oh it's amazing. Robert Carlyle, Rose Byrne, Jeremy Renner, Harold Berenier
from Lost. Idris Elba. Idris Elba's in it. Imogen Poots. A lot of these people weren't
that famous then though. That's true. You need toba's in it. Imogen Poots. A lot of these people weren't that famous then though.
That's true.
You need to bear that in mind.
They'll all be on the poster now.
Oh yeah.
Idris Elba will be on the poster now.
They'll say Robert Carlar from the full Monte Disney Plus revival series.
That's right.
They're so ugly now.
Jeremy Renner from the Disney Plus series renovations.
And the Jeremy Renner app.
True.
Check him out on the Jeremy Renner app.
Give him a chance.
Give him a chance. Give him a chance.
Anyway, we're not here to talk about 28 Weeks Later
for two reasons.
One, we don't remember it.
Two, it's apparently not in continuity.
But.
No, it sort of is.
Some of the, there's some clips from it in this
about 20 years later.
Yeah, it's sort of in continuity.
Okay.
There's like a map that they've released where,
at the end of that movie, this is a spoiler,
but the zombies, they get into France and apparently they just nuked Paris, which contained
the spray.
But in this movie, Europe largely un-nuked.
Yeah, for now.
So on a budget of $60 million, which is a lot considering they shot this on an iPhone,
apparently.
They say that, don't they?
Yeah, they do.
But also, there's definitely, I've seen a behind the scenes photo and it's not an iPhone,
it's iPhones in the matrix.
Like there's like 50 iPhones.
Or an iPhone in a big box with a huge lens on it.
They put a $100,000 lens on it.
So yeah.
They get a kickback from Apple for that?
They must.
Yeah.
It's opening pretty strong in the US at about $30 million. We'll see
how it goes the world over. But I would say it is critically, it's pretty loved, but audience-wise,
it's pretty divisive, which we'll get into. So this will open behind in the US at least,
How to Train Your Dragon again with $35 million. But Elio, which is the new Pixar film, is probably going to be
the lowest Pixar opening ever at 22 million.
Did you know this was coming out?
I've seen billboards, but I've not seen a trailer.
And I didn't, I don't know what it's about.
It's a, I think based on the billboard, it's a little boy.
He's only got one eye and he's, he's hanging out with what looks like a tardigrade, one of those little microscopic
creatures that can survive in space.
So has he been shrunk down?
Oh, I know, I was asking you because I don't know.
I don't know either.
Let's look it up.
No.
No, I'm going to look it up.
I think it's a shrinking down situation, but maybe it's not.
They also did that with Strange World, sort of recently, which was not great.
Elio, an underdog with an active imagination,
finds himself inadvertently beamed up to the communiverse. He said he was a boy. Sounds
like communism. Agreed. An interplanetary organization with representatives from galaxies
far and wide. Mistakenly identified as Earth's ambassador to the rest of the universe, he
starts to form new bonds with eccentric aliens while discovering who he's truly meant to
be. Now to me it looked like he was shrunk down. Yeah. And his dad is dead or something.
Oh maybe.
And he has a cry about it.
Maybe.
We all have a cry about it.
It does say his dad's dead and he has a cry about it.
And we have a cry about it as an audience member.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Great.
Anyways, there we go.
That's great, that's the movie Elio.
Haven't seen it but it looks very promising.
What do you think the story was for 28, 23 years later?
We're gonna go with 23 years later?
Well, it is 23 years later.
I'm not going to lie.
You're going to have to look 28 years later in the podcast title and the thumbnail for
the...
Oh yeah.
Yeah, because otherwise nobody will...
Yeah, that's a good point.
I mean, it won't do that well regardless, but that would make it do even worse.
Correct.
That's correct.
All right.
So this movie starts in a flashback.
Yeah. And you know it because the the cameras tilted. Yeah, that's right
It looks old. Yeah, it starts out with a flashback to roughly the time of the original movie. There's a little blonde boy
Yeah, he's spending time with his little blonde siblings. Yeah, and then the zombies attack. Well the infected attack
Well, they call them zombies in this movie one point one point. Yeah
The the infected attack and he goes he goes for a run. Yeah attack and he goes for a run.
Yeah.
And he goes for a run to the church.
Yeah.
His local church.
And he goes, Dad help.
Yeah.
He's like, I can't help.
I'm too busy going absolutely mad for zombies.
I'm mad for him.
I'm loving this.
Yeah.
But you do your own thing.
Judgment, rapture, etc.
I love this.
Exactly.
I'm having a big blood spew.
That's right.
Anyway, smash cut to roughly the present day.
23 years later.
23 years later, because that's, yep, good.
Good stuff.
Because when the first one come out?
2002.
Okay, so it's 23 years later.
I know.
Okay.
But this is set in the future, James.
Yeah.
Okay.
But this is set in what remains.
It's also in the British past. God bless them all
That is true. God bless the Queen. So this so we smash cut to a little island off the UK
We get a little bit of information that in this continuity a Britain Great Britain. Yep salute
It was has been entirely cut off from the rest of the world. Yep
The spread of the the rage virus has been stopped. It was stopped. So it's been Britain has been completely quarantined
from the rest of the world. The idea is that this is why I saw Danny Boyle talk
about this that they're thinking it'll just burn itself out. Yeah. But it hasn't.
No. Yeah. It's evolving in ways that you might know or not know. Yeah like how
are the zombies surviving? They're eating worms. They're eating worms and other things.
But anyway this is set much of this is set in a little island off the
mainland where a group of survivors, they've survived and thrived.
They've got a little mechanism for getting on and off the mainland. That's
right. So they're in a little village. It's a little bit kind of
peasant fishing village. It's a little bit rotary club. It is, isn't it? It's a little bit kind of peasant fishing village. It's a little bit rotary club.
It is, isn't it?
It's a little bit Britpop.
Yeah.
Some people with Britpop haircuts because the style hasn't evolved.
I love that kind of, we'll talk about it, but like the setting and the tone and the
throwback stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like you said, there is a bridge to the mainland that is only available during low
tide and seemingly there is a tradition in this village that is only available during low tide and it's seemingly,
there is a tradition in this village
that occasionally you go,
you gotta go to the mainland,
take the bridge to the mainland
and kill some zombies and collect some supplies
and et cetera.
You do a little daisy like the video game.
You do, exactly.
And so Aaron Taylor Johnson plays dad.
Yep.
He's your dad.
He's my dad.
And his son is Spike.
Yep.
And he's not quite old and he's 12 years old.
He's not quite old enough to go to the mainland.
But he's like, I'm going to do it anyway.
I feel pretty good about this.
Feel pretty good about this.
Also, I want to get away from my wife.
Yeah.
Who I hate.
Because I hate her because she's got dementia.
Because she's sick or something.
She's sick and that's boring and annoying.
And I'm going to hate that.
So I'm going to take my son over there. We're going to get him to kill
some infected. We're going to have a great time. And that's how we get into it, James.
That's how it kicks off. So yeah, his son is played by Alfie Williams. So people would have
recently seen him in Netflix's incel TV show. Oh, that's the kid. Okay. Can't remember.
Adolescent? Yes. Amazing show. Incredible actor, by the way.
Was he booked for this before?
I don't know about that. He was 13 when he shot this.
I don't know specifically. Well this one and he shot this and the next one back to back.
Jodie Comer is also in this. She plays the mother.
She's the wife we hate.
Yep, the wife we hate. Stop being sick. Just get up. Shake it off.
Rafe Fiennes plays and makes an appearance.
She wouldn't know how to shake it off
because they don't have Taylor Swift. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. She'd have to blow a song
to it off. Exactly. Just woohoo. Woohoo. Could she 28 days rap rock group it off? Could she rip it up?
Yeah, maybe. I'll just find out when 28 days release that song.
That would be great.
So yeah, I understand the divisive nature of this because it's...
Came in in 2000.
Perfect.
She could rip it up.
Why can't you just rip it up?
I thought this was terrific.
I understand why people don't like it because it's...
I don't like it because it's... I don't? No, I mean in terms of like, if it doesn't do for zombies what the first one did, because
you can't because there's been so much media in between.
So even the new stuff in this we've seen and other stuff in terms of like zombie lore.
When was the first Fast Zombie movie?
I think it was this.
28 days later.
Yeah, because Dawn of the Dead was after this. Right, uh-huh. Yeah, and I just thought it was the story after the initial like half an hour,
which is pretty much on par with what you'd expect for maybe a sequel of this or a zombie movie or
TV show. It's just bizarre and it takes a really strange direction and it's very British, which I
think also might not resonate with
I found a lot of it to be quite contemplative. Yeah. And quite moving in a lot of places.
I agree. A few places. Yeah. Yeah. I was really surprised by that. And because the it's interesting
because the a lot of the the trailers and the you know, the the marketing for this,
it's very like, it's very pumping cult-like.
And there's of course, we see in the posters, there's the enormous...
It's a poem by Rudyard Kipling.
Old Rudyard.
But there's that on the posters, there's the enormous pile of bones.
I do like the tagline a lot, which is time didn't heal anything.
No, it's quite good.
But yeah, it's, you might think that this is kind of going to be a, like a thumping
kind of blood in your ears constantly, like everybody's on the run the entire time.
And it's just not that, but I enjoyed this a lot.
I was happy to be surprised.
Same, absolutely.
A lot of this is also, again, Danny Boyle has talked about this, that England at the
time this came out and before it was...
The original.
Yeah, well even just England as a place.
There was a lot of looking forward to the future, you know?
And this is...
Britpop.
Britpop.
And since then, probably like 2010s, maybe a bit before and up to now, there isn't that
there's that lack of kind
of hope for the future.
This is pretty Brexit, isn't it?
Yeah, well that and I just think like, I don't know, someone's bombing another fucking whatever,
you know, not to dismiss any of the things that are happening, but you know, it's grim.
And people are still going to work.
And so there's a lot of nostalgia and people are, you know, kind of,
you know, I was gonna say cowering in media.
That's not the right expression.
That's what we're doing.
Not everybody is doing that.
That's what we're doing.
Yeah, but there is this like this media nostalgia.
They're finding comfort.
Just comfort, exactly.
That's exactly what it is.
And that's the kind of world they've built here.
It's like this England of old,
which I sort of remember growing up.
Rotary clubs, et cetera, RSLs if you're Australian.
Rock Lions Club.
Yeah, there's pictures of the Queen
There's this like old-school kite kind of community bingo feel
Yeah to the something's very wrong in yeah, which we're gonna get because there is another movie on the way
Which is 28 years later the bone temple. Oh, yeah goes real wrong. It seems to that one
Yeah, but we don't we don't know what's going on there. But there is, there's some very
strange imagery. It's not it's not hidden, but it's like quite overt in terms of like, you know,
there's they've got these rituals, you know, not not like satanic, not satanic rituals, but just
odd rituals, children in odd masks. Yeah. And like we see a lot of very strange coming of age rituals for the children and there's a lot
of singing and again, it's got that, it's like a very sinister rotary club, it's very odd.
And a series of rules that you survive by that are kind of taught to you from a very early age.
And there's also a lot of this is, at least initially, it's intercut with Henry V from
1944 because the main source of weapons is bows and arrows because they're silent. So a lot of it's intercut with Henry V from 1944, you know, because you know, there's that, you
know, because the main source of weapons is bows and arrows because they're silence. So
a lot of your life you spent doing that. And there's a series of jobs that you have to
do if you live on this island. And they're very kind of gender normative is the way they
would have been. It's like, well, if you're a woman, you're the washerwoman or you know
what I mean?
Or the mum.
Or the mum.
The birth giver. Yeah, it's kind of,
it's this archaic kind of sense of England or this kind of weird mush together nostalgia.
Also a little bit of Britpop, but it's not a good fit or feel. It's sad. It's interesting
as well that the world as a whole has completely abandoned England. Yeah, absolutely.
There's nothing.
And moved forward.
I didn't think it occurred to me at the time, but afterwards I'm like, oh, they don't even
get aid packages or they don't air drop food or anything like that.
It's just like, whatever.
Yeah.
Well, it's interesting.
This is neither here nor there, I think.
It's not a criticism of the movie, but I thought it was interesting to think about
if in our real world, several decades ago,
an entire country was completely isolated
from the rest of the world,
would the rest of the world society evolve
the same way it does?
Because in this we do,
I don't think this is really a spoiler,
but we do encounter some outside England sort of media and this
sort of stuff.
And it's like, would we still have Instagram?
Would there still be like, at one point we see the photo of a girlfriend of somebody
who is from the outside world.
And it's like, and she's got, she's got a kind of the fillers.
She's got an Instagram influencer look. She's got kind of the duck lips and the whatever and
I'm like would society still be the same I mean maybe maybe I mean you know I
guess I guess people adjust fast and if you're not in England I suppose you're
just like yeah whatever yeah exactly who cares right yeah yeah I mean there are
countries that are mostly isolated but I guess the difference is that like
England is a huge influence in the Western world.
Britpop, for example.
Britpop, yeah, and they've just kind of removed.
She's been completely removed from society.
Are we going to see Noel and Liam Gallagher in this universe?
Where are they?
I would love to know what they're up to.
Because they probably would have left.
They definitely would have left.
Because they would have had the...
When did...
Oasis break up?
No, when did...
4?
Oh, that's a good point.
Maybe they're still touring. When did What's the Story, Morning Glory come up? No, when did... Four? Oh, that's a good point.
Maybe they're still touring.
When did What's the Story of Morning Glory come out?
That album, because that was the huge one.
That's a big one?
Yeah.
It would have been like 98.
Hang on.
It was.
95, my goodness.
Okay, well they're out of there.
They got on their private jet.
I mean, The Queen probably didn't make it, so who knows whether they did.
I don't know.
Yeah, I found the...
I love getting a peek into the outside world.
And that was really surprising that like, oh, this isn't like Mad Max where we sort
of found out in Furiosa where this is everywhere.
This is just in England.
And they nuked Paris.
And that's everything.
Okay, but did they still nuke Paris?
I believe so, yeah. I saw a map that was... That's still in continuity. Yeah, I believe nuked Paris and that's okay. But did they still nuke Paris? I believe so. Yeah
It was like I saw a map that's still in continuity. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. Okay. Yeah
so I think also
Because we've had the walking dead and multiple walking dead spin-offs plus the comic had black summer
Which is a lesser-known zombie thing, but that's terrific
If it's on Netflix is too serious like the last of us even something like British and Sad and Dead Set, which is, there's a
zombie apocalypse while you follow the people in the Big Brother house.
Charlie Brooker did that.
If you like Black Mirror, it's like that, but a thousand times sadder.
It's very good.
So I think you can't revolutionize zombies in the way that they did initially.
So I think a lot of the zombie stuff outside of
the first 30-40 minutes, I don't think it's not particularly scary. I think they demystify a bit
of that. There's a control element you can see the way that they're evolving. But all the new
zombie stuff is stuff that we've seen. There's the idea, we find out how they survive because at the end of the first one,
it's that they're starving out.
And that's the idea that they thought,
well, this is gonna burn out because they don't eat,
which means they'll die.
Because they're technically not zombies also
because they're not dead.
They're not dead, they're not undead.
They're just normal people who have this virus
that prevents them from thinking rationally.
And it's called bloody, it's called,
James, I'm working up to a bit of satire. Oh, here we go. Maybe it's called bloody, preventing them from thinking rationally and it's called bloody, it's called James. I'm working up to a bit of satire.
Oh, maybe it's called bloody preventing them from thinking rationally.
Maybe it's some, maybe it's a G maybe it's a bloody.
Oh, you didn't have like, no, I didn't have anything.
I'm trying to, uh, cause they don't really have phones.
So it's a bloody, bloody, uh, fluoride in the tap water. It's probably fluoride. It's probably like the fluoride in the tap water. It's probably fluoride and chem trials.
Yeah, I would say so. No, I don't know. But yeah, no, they're normal humans, which is
there some scope for a cure? Yeah. And it seems as if that-
What are we talking about? Yeah, we're talking about spoilers. But like, and I guess this
is the idea behind a lot of zombie stuff and just really cover it But maybe a little bit, but maybe they're normal. Maybe their brains are still functioning
So underneath I think we should talk about the characters of the movie sure so Aaron Taylor Johnson, of course his dad
Yeah, and not the main character. No, but um, yes bike really is the main character
Yeah, son is the main character
But this guy, you know, he is very keen to get his son on the track to you know
Being a zombie hunter kind of thing and at one point he says you can kill them
They don't have any minds. They don't have any souls
Yeah, you know kind of thing which I think is kind of a really pointed to me this movie
I don't know, you know what Danny Boyle has said about her Alex. Go back say themes Mason
I might be saying things but I think maybe
They're working towards a more hope in this universe.
Yeah.
Like maybe that's a-
Probably not in the next one, which we'll talk about, but yeah.
But I think they may be there, they're veering towards like trying to illustrate that we're
in a world of no hope, but maybe there is some hope if we all kind of work together.
I don't know.
Yeah, you might be right.
But he is kind of a, initially like, oh, he's quite a, he's an encouraging dad. He's pretty nice, but he's got an under he is a kind of a initially like oh he's quite a he's an encouraging dad he's
pretty nice but he's got an undercurrent like a kind of like there is kind of there is you see
like there is a rage also within him you know which i guess is a metaphor maybe he's the real
zombies maybe the real zombies etc yeah he's from the band the zombies i hope they survived
but so yeah he kind of does step aside a certain point and it's a Jodie Comer movie as well
with um, with Alfie Williams and they reasons which I guess we'll talk about in spoilers.
But that I thought like their relationship was really interesting because his dad clearly
wants him to be a certain way and be this zombie killing hero.
Whereas he's not that yeah, and you see that when he's away from his dad that he's actually
always quite nurturing and caring and very capable. But he's not his dad or who his dad wants to be.
I thought that was really interesting.
And then of course you introduced the Ralph Fiennes character who's kind of talked about
at the start as kind of this spooky, ethereal, mad scientist.
He's a man who remained on the mainland and is therefore, he must be insane.
Yeah.
Yeah. And who knows what he's up to.
And like his introduction and what he's been doing, I just, he was so good.
I just thought all that was just really wonderful.
Makes you forget he was Voldemort.
It does.
Or John Steed in Original Avengers.
Absolutely.
I think, not Original, Original Avengers, the movie rebu, Wamathuma Thurman.
But I think this movie and what I didn't expect is there is kind of, there's levels of terror in it.
There's a bridge chase sequence which I think is quite tense, but it's quite contemplative.
And it's very moving.
I said that earlier.
And yeah, no, I'm not saying you didn't.
Did you cut it out, James? Did you cut out the bit where I said it was quite moving?
And like you said, hopeful as well, something that you said, and I didn't expect that. Like it's... It's nice to be surprised.
It's nice to be surprised. I really loved that we're gonna have to do it in spoilers, but I just thought that was so...
It was really beautiful in a way that I did not expect. Yeah.
That's right. And there's a bunch of dongs in it. Regular sized dongs.
Yeah, if you saw the trailer and you were like, wow, it's weird that all these undead
infected people have kept their pants. Yeah. Well, they haven't actually. No, they've got dongs.
They've got dongs. Speaking of, we've got an email though.
We've got an email with dongs. Let me find it. Don't send us your dongs, please. No, don't do that.
That's not what we're doing here. That would actually, that would be rude. No nudes.
No nudes, thank you.
Hang on.
You know, I only said I thought it was hopeful and moving after you said it.
I didn't even think that until you said it.
That's exactly right.
Is that okay?
Okay, this is from Harry.
He sent an email, subject line 28 Willys later.
Very good.
Hey boys.
My missus has just started a new job at a prosthetic company that predominantly makes
gender-affirming prosthetics.
Hell yeah.
But the company also does contracts with films to make prosthetics for actors when they don't
want their real personal areas to be shown on film.
For 28 years later, I believe the company made over 100 prosthetics.
I can't quite remember, but it was a lot.
So I ask if I can now be the official prosthetic Willie correspondent of the podcast, and I
will let you know whenever films are going to have prosthetic private parts. Also, huge shout out to Hannah, my girlfriend with a new job. She's so talented
and I'm so happy she's in a job she's loving right now with a chance to work on films,
which is her dream.
That's awesome. Congratulations. Great dong work in this.
I agree.
So we've talked about this before, but like a lot of dongs you see in movies and TV shows,
they are not real. They're prosthetic for various reasons. Like you said, it could be
that people don't want to show their dongs,
understandably, but I also think it's a continuity thing.
Well, yeah, because you don't know how your dongs going to behave on film.
And you're in England, you're running around in the cold.
Right, sure.
There's going to be some continuity issues there.
And you want the dong to be consistent.
That's right.
Dongsistency, I believe they call it.
They do call it that.
In America, they call it wang Dongsistency, I believe they call it. They do call it that. In America they call it wang-sistency.
And the Philosopher's Stone.
No, the other one.
Don't worry about it.
It's not a real joke.
Should we do some spoilers?
Yes.
Best movie ever.
Loved it.
Thought it was great.
Yeah, now we've got a sequel coming out in the...
Is it two sequels?
Two sequels.
I guess... are they both filmed?
Do you want... no, one is.
Do you want to do spoilers and whatever and then we'll do that the future of the franchise?
Yes, so one of the people that turns up is is
Eric who's a Swedish NATO officer? He him and his team
They shipwrecked so they washed ashore. There's a there's quarantine patrol boats that go back and forth
So apparently once you
If you if you end up in
England, you're stuck there, they won't let you leave. And so there's a lot of these patrol
boats from European nations that go back and forth, making sure nobody's trying to sneak
out.
So he's the one with an iPhone.
Yeah, so his team washes shore and then everybody except him gets killed by infected.
And he's like, this sucks, I hate this.
Yeah, this is a bad place.
And why did you bring me here?
Yeah, yeah.
And I think there's a lot of fun back and forth
where he's having a conversation with Spike
and he's trying to kind of relate to him,
but none of these current references,
he can't really explain what a delivery driver is.
Spike doesn't know what an iPhone-like phone
is, a smartphone.
There's a lot of references he can't...
He's like, why does your girlfriend look so weird?
She actually hates shellfish.
I thought that was all great.
I mean, he's not around for that long, but yeah.
He gets his head.
He gets his head torn off, which is a zombie thing.
So yeah, there's also in this, there's this zombie hierarchy this zombie hierarchy. There's these kind of mud kind of bigger crawling
ones. They eat the worms. Yep, that's right. You got your regular fast zombies and then
you got your alphas with regular sized dogs. That's correct. Pretty standard. I thought
regular. I was like, yeah, I think I'm a smaller than usual. I must be cold in England. And
it appears that they're having babies.
Yeah.
And now I think if you probably had a baby in the wild,
and there's a moment where they're all kind of
milling about in a stream.
There's almost this kind of like cave person
kind of intelligence seeping through.
Yeah, have they evolved to become more intelligent?
It's a little bit unclear, but yeah,
clearly they're like, well, humans wash themselves,
we'd better wash kind of thing, you know? And they're just sort of, clearly they're like, well, humans wash themselves, we'd better wash.
Yeah.
You know, and they just sort of, but they don't know how to do it really.
No.
They're sort of splashing about. Yeah. And so I think, my feeling is that they are, this infected woman got pregnant while she was infected.
Yeah, absolutely.
She's not.
Probably, I would say probably to that alpha as well.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Yeah. So there's that kind of
You know, there's a little bit of that
I am legend the idea like they have more intelligence than we think they do like that the kind of the very pointed comment about
They have no minds. They have no souls. I think they do have minds on some level
I was gonna say I think Aaron Taylor Johnson. I think this this role suits him a lot better than some other stuff
He's done recently Morbius. he's done recently. Morbius.
Yeah, he was in Morbius.
He was Morbius.
Yeah.
I mean, he did well.
I think so.
It was a good movie.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, I thought he was really good.
And so, yeah, so in this instance, I don't know if this is true all the time, but this
zombie, Jodie Comer helps her deliver a baby.
And she willingly lets her do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is unusual. Because they have a connection and she gives birth to a normal baby. And she willingly lets her do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is unusual.
Because they have a connection and she gives birth to a normal baby.
And Ray Fiennes' character, the doctor, he learns about this and he's like, oh, that's
the placenta doing that.
Yeah.
I mean, it's been examples of that.
I know people infected with HIV, just off the top of my head, have had babies who do
not have that.
You know, like not everything gets passed down directly.
Maybe there is an immunity to that baby as well.
We don't know if this is the only one
or if it's like this happens all the time.
If a baby is born.
Maybe they get infected straight away.
Or maybe they just get eaten.
Yeah.
So yeah, it's kind of,
it doesn't really answer any of those questions,
but we've seen like zombie babies before.
And this idea of an alpha, even Zack Snyder did it
in that Las Vegas zombie movie
where they might've also been robots or aliens or something. Yeah sure. Remember
that one? Sure why not. That was a good one. I agree. Yeah and then of course the
the bone temple that they visit which is in all of the posters. Yeah and so the
initially we hear this sort of ghost story about this this doctor you know he
we... He's collecting the dead. Yeah we you know one time we went to the mainland and we saw he had all these you know stacks of bodies lined up and... He's collecting the dead. Yeah, one time we went to the mainland and we saw he had all these stacks of bodies lined
up and he must have gone mad.
And he has.
And he has gone mad to some degree, absolutely.
But when we finally see him, I'd forgotten Ray Fiennes was going to be in this.
But when we see him, he's covered in iodine because the rage virus doesn't like iodine
apparently.
It would have been nice to know that earlier.
Yeah.
So he looks like he's sort of orange.
Yeah.
And we learn that no, actually he's trying to give a fitting tribute to all the dead
people.
Yeah, he's building a monument to those who have lived in parts.
Which is insane, obviously.
Oh, totally, yeah.
He has had to cremate. He's had to, you know, cremate.
He's had to sever the heads of a lot of people and then cremate their bodies and their heads
and then sort of sluice all their skin and flesh off their heads.
And then mush it into a towel.
And mush it into a towel, yeah.
But what was really surprising about all of that is, like, first of all, like, he doesn't
see it as, like, it's a beautiful work of art to him and a tribute.
And it is, and it comes across like that.
It's not like, oh, this is an insane person who loves melting bodies down.
At no point did I get the impression that he was going to turn on them and just be like,
well, now you're going to be part of the Bone Temple.
He's still got that kind of the upper-class British affectation.
He's got a background as a...
They don't say specifically, maybe as a surgeon or...
Yeah, but also he's a doctor from an era where doctors actually had to know things.
Yeah, exactly.
And he didn't go to somebody and go, I'm having this issue and then you see him just Googling.
Yeah, that's right.
But yeah, and there's quite a, again, the most moving part of this, I think, is that he,
Spike has taken his mother to see this doctor because he thinks
that this doctor can easily cure, so you know, find some modern medicine or what have you.
But he's of course, you know, he examines her and realizes that she is just riddled
with cancer.
Yeah, like incurable cancer.
It's gone too far and she's going to pass away.
Even if it was the modern day, there's nothing for that. And so he talks to Spike and he gives him a quite, you know,
I do have a quite moving speech about all the types of death there are.
And I thought it was very, very nice.
And then euthanizes her and puts a skull on top of a thing.
I don't think he should do it by shooting her with a dart, though.
That felt kind of insensitive.
He probably had another way to do it. He probably just pushed her straight into the big burning pit. No, it by shooting her with a dart though, that felt kind of insensitive. He probably had another way to do it.
He probably just pushed her straight into the big burning pit.
No, but he shot her with a dart.
Oh, did he?
I thought he shot Spike because Spike was like tripping out.
No.
Because you know Spike was like looking around and all the darts were like...
No.
No?
Maybe I misread it.
Maybe.
He shoots her twice with a dart.
Oh, he didn't shoot Spike as well to calm him down and like...
I don't think so. I don't think so. You're probably right.
Those were death darts.
You shouldn't shoot somebody with a death dart.
No, they weren't death darts.
I think he had some death darts.
Oh, he definitely had some death darts.
Also, he can pacify zombies because he's figured out the method to do that with a dart,
not a death dart.
Just a regular dart.
Hey buddy, you want this?
Take five, buddy.
I'll light this up for you.
I love that.
I thought it was beautiful. I just, yeah.
And I just thought it was great. I thought it was great too.
Yeah. So, but then of course, so he returns a zombie baby, which is not a zombie baby,
to his island and he leaves. He decides he's going to stay on the mainland.
This is Spike.
This is Spike.
Little, little boy.
And he's out in the world and then he's chased down by a few zombies. He's pretty good at
bowing arrows at this point.
Yeah, he's decided he's going to what's out there. The mainland. Yeah.
Find what he truly wants. And he finds something weird and also probably bad.
It's Jack O'Connell from Sinners. He's back. He's back.
But now he's, it's the little boy from earlier, the little blonde boy.
Who I assumed was Aaron Taylor Johnson or just forgot about.
I assumed he lost his blondness and became a real man.
Happens. But no, it's, the little boy's grown up on the mainland and now he's part of some sort of Power Rangers track suit kung fu gang.
Well, do you know what they are?
They're Jimmy Savile apparently.
They're Jimmy Savile.
Yeah, I thought it was just this kind of early kind of British rave kind of scene.
Is it supposed to be his siblings?
Do you think?
I don't know.
I don't know because they're all they were torn apart.
Yeah.
So I think the idea is that it is his new family.
So his name is Jimmy Crystal and he's the head of the Jimmy's.
And just for a bit of background, this is vicaricomicalmovie.com.
Not too much.
No, just some.
So Jimmy Savile was a prominent British TV and radio personality, revealed as one of
the UK's most prolific sex predators following his death in 2011.
He abused children and adults of both genders using his fame and charity work to gain access
to vulnerable individuals.
His crimes were committed in schools, hospitals, and even on television.
400 victims were ultimately identified, that we know of, with the youngest being just eight
years old.
This guy was a fucking monster who died a hero.
But these people wouldn't know that.
They don't know that.
Exactly.
So they would have grown up with Jimmy Savile.
But leading into the next movie, which is called The Bone Temple.
Yeah.
I mean, if these guys had all dressed as Rolf Harris, we wouldn't know.
But we don't, we didn't have Jimmy Savile here.
And I like, we're not, because I didn't pick up on that at the time, but then afterwards
I'm like, why would they put Jimmy Savile, attribute to Jimmy Savile in this? And it's,
it's pretty obvious that these are not going to be good people. So Danny Boyle, he, so
Nia DaCosta directed the sequel who did the marbles and also Candyman, which I haven't
seen. Also I didn't mind the marbles and she probably didn't really direct it because they cut a
bunch of stuff out of it.
And Candyman was the Candyman reboot, Force Awakens, which I don't think I could.
So the role of Jack O'Connell's character and his family, which is a replacement really
for the family he loses at the beginning of the film, is to reintroduce evil into what
has become a compassionate environment.
I asked Alex Garland, who wrote this, right at the beginning
to tell me what's the nature of each of these films and he said the nature of the first
film is about family, the second film is about the nature of evil and you're about to meet
a lot more of them when it'll be more appropriate to talk about them in the second film. So
the second film it seems like is going to be pretty awful and dark.
Interesting.
Because there's a lot of Jimmy Salves running around.
Right, okay. So there you go. But yeah, like I think in terms of like, this one gives us a little bit of hope,
is do you think the direction this is going? Because you know, initially the first movie was
about, you know, the world's ruined and then they nuke Paris, etc. Yes. And then, do you think this
is the idea of like, well, that some of these babies are born, you know,
not infected.
Yeah.
Do you think we're going to go maybe in the third movie, the baby is going to be, you
know, maybe that an aid team comes in from Europe or somewhere like that and they inspect
this baby and they're like, Oh, I see.
Children of men ish.
Yeah.
Maybe we can find a cure for this.
Yeah, maybe.
Or do you think this is not a universe where we get a cure?
Yeah, it kind of feels more like that.
I think if anything it would end on a kind of a hopeful kind of like, I don't know, which
is kind of how Children of Man ends.
It's like we took this baby, but I don't know.
What do we do with it?
I kind of wonder if maybe Danny Boyle and Alex Garland are sort of headed towards like,
well maybe we should create a world in which there is hope at the end, there's a cure
at the end kind of thing, you know?
We can rebuild.
We can rebuild, hopefully.
Killian Murphy, executive producer on this, not in it.
Yeah, so the next one's out in January 2026.
That is filmed.
What happened to Killian Murphy at the end of the first one?
He just lived on a little island.
He lived on a little island.
Yeah, with Naomi Harris and somebody else, the girl in it.
So there's no Killian Murphy in this one.
I thought he was gonna pop up.
Apparently he is in the second one.
He's gonna play a small role,
but he plays a huge role in three.
Now three, the story, Alex Garland has mapped out,
but he said he hasn't written it yet.
So we might not even get that.
We might get it as a graphic novel in 10 years.
I mean, yeah, I'm reading the 28 days later graphic novel at the moment, which is interesting.
Probably do a book club on it.
But yeah, I mean, I hope they finish this.
That would be cool.
Did Danny Boyle and Alex Garland have some sort of falling out many years ago?
I think they just went separate ways.
They did separate things.
Alex Garland did more directing and yeah.
So yeah, I don't think so.
Interesting. Yeah. So Jim will be back.
Do you want me to read some reviews from the Planet Broadcasting Great Makes group?
Yes.
From Lewis Hill.
I thought it was the best of the franchise and the second half was actually the best bit
because I had no idea where it was going.
Jesse Barnes said,
While the only trailer I saw for this movie didn't give anything away,
I kind of wish it had.
Was not what I expected at all and would have waited for streaming had I known. The plot was pretty asinine but for the last five minutes
were the best part. Of the trilogy, definitely the worst movie ever.
Whoa, interesting.
Deb Anish says, Ashish sorry says, I bloody loved it mate. I really loved the themes throughout
the movie. One minor annoyance. I hated the last three minutes. What an insane whiplash
after such a great moment. I get that it's the kind the kid from the prologue, but that sucked ruined the moment for me
I hate the sequel set up like this. They did this in God Godzilla minus one to
Let let me like let me marinate in the moment. Yeah, I can understand. There is that whiplash
It did feel like oh, this is Shaun of the Dead
Yeah, it was kind of like The Warriors kind of like.
Yeah.
But I mean, you know.
Clean tracksuits.
Very clean tracksuits.
Yeah.
Daryl Finlan says, saw the movie last night and I've not stopped thinking about it.
Bloody loved it and I'm itching to see it again.
The main cast all gave great performances but Jodie Comer and the main kid were phenomenal.
I loved all the additions to the lore.
I loved how slow and contemplative and human it was.
I didn't expect to cry. My mum survived cancer twice and all that stuff with Spike and his mum at the end
really got me just thinking about how I would have been if my mum had pulled through. That
sucks. Sorry to hear that. Yeah. Paul Plant says, no spoilers for me. First half was decent.
Second half wasn't very good. on boring and Neil H says Neil
NH says I left the cinema half an hour ago loved it but it's not gonna appeal
to everybody fans included yeah I saw I've been not looking at the 28 days
subreddit and yeah it's very polarizing but I loved it and that's all that
matters to me what have I been doing for 10 years for the 28 days subreddit
being like where's movies probably listening to rip it up they're probably
listening to rip it up and watching're probably listening to Rip It Up
and watching the Daryl Dixon Walking Dead spin-off.
Probably.
Probably.
Daryl Dixon walking around.
Walking around all day.
Walking around Daryl Dixon walking around all day.
Should we leave it at that then?
Let's leave it at that.
What a great movie.
I think so too.
Movies are good again.
Next week, what are we gonna do?
F1 and maybe Mithreagan.
Mithreagan.
Yeah, Mithreagan 2.
Yeah.
Mattoogan.
Mattoogan.
Thanks everyone, we'll see you in the next segment. It's actually called What We Reading.
That's so true, isn't it? Yep. What We Gonna Read. Yes.
I'm doing the theme.
What are we reading today?
This is a section of the show where I talk about things we've been watching and looking at. So true, isn't it? Yeah. What are we looking at?
I'm looking at all sorts of things. You can't stop me. It's free country. I wasn't going to stop you. For now. What
are you looking at though? Am I allowed to know? Yes. Name some of the things that you've
been looking at. I watched a couple of episodes of The Waterfront. It was on Netflix. Oh,
okay. It looked sort of intriguing. I'm only intrigued-
But it's not? No, I thought it was quite good. Okay. I mean, it's, you know, have you seen
a drama on Netflix? Yeah, I've seen it a lot. You know how it's often about a struggling
family and has to send a drug smuggling? Yeah. It's that again. Wow. But this one's got Melissa
Bunoys. She's good at Supergirl. Supergirl. Maria Bella's in that. That's good. Yeah,
that's why I was intrigued. I'm like, I'm not going to- Holt McCallany. Yes. One of the most
famous that guys. Yeah, he's good. I think it's probably, I've found him pretty compelling.
How many series before they cancel it? Probably one. Okay. Or two. Or three.
These generally do quite well. What's the name of the one that has Jason... Schwarzman? No. Ozark?
Yeah, Ozark. Yeah. Jason Ozark. Jason Bateman. I never finished that. I didn't watch the last
season, but I did like it. It's Breaking Bad, et cetera. Yeah, there's a lot of those. Yeah,
cool. Okay. So Worth a Watch maybe, or should I just finish Ozark? I think you should start on
this one, so then you have two unfinished series
I do like looking at two things and then I was looking at other stuff that I'm like
Sometimes when we do this segment, I'm like, what did I watch this week?
I watched a Vanity Fair video where Wes Anderson breaks down all his movies. The one that goes for a really really really long time
50 minutes or something. Dude, I have 50 minutes. Yes, you do. Dude, I've got so much time
I've got so much time, but it's never for watching actual things
This isn't a real thing, but I thought it was very compelling. Yeah
Cool. Was he like, all my movies are filmed like this and that's annoying to people
No, that didn't come up at all. Didn't come up? No. Good. It shouldn't. Yeah, I don't think it should either
Yeah, he's just a regular guy. He just dresses a little bit odd. Yeah, and he doesn't fly. He takes a boat
Doesn't fly. Well, none of us fly Mason. We're just human beings
Yeah, and he doesn't fly he takes a boat doesn't fly. Well, none of us fly Mason. We're just human beings
Have you seen because I was looking for stuff that I'm like, what have I what have I watched and I'm so yeah Just go through all the streaming services. Sure. Yeah, I watch on anything this week
Have you seen the man who killed Hitler and then Bigfoot? No, what's a movie from it's just come up on Amazon
It's from 2019. Mmm. It's got Sam Elliott in it. Okay. The story follows sort of a real movie. Yeah, it's got Sam Elliott
Aiden Turner Ron Livingston Caitlin Fitzgerald Larry Miller who I always enjoy seeing I'm gonna maybe I'll watch this
Is it any good the story follow?
Here's the thing the story follows a legendary American war veteran named Calvin Barr who decades after serving in World War two and assassinating
Adolf Hitler must now hunt down the fabled Bigfoot
and assassinating Adolf Hitler must now hunt down the fabled Bigfoot. But here's the thing.
It's got a 75% on Rotten Tomatoes.
And here's the thing. It's described as atmospheric and gritty and an adventure drama.
At no point are they like, this is a comedy. I gotta watch this, right?
You have to watch it now.
People leave an email in if you've seen it, because I gotta know if this is...
This is legit.
I like Sam Elliott. I like, you know, what on earth?
That's cool that he killed Hitler.
I don't know about the Bigfoot thing.
See, it's interesting because you'd see this,
this feels like a Big Fish kind of movie.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Or it's about a guy who tells a lot of tall tales,
but evidently he did kill Hitler.
Well, how did this come about?
Is this based on a comic book or something?
I'm just looking at the Wikipedia now.
What's going on?
Doesn't look to be based on anything.
Recently I watched a movie,
I watched some of a movie called Hundreds of Beavers.
Are you familiar with it? Oh yeah, it's the one where they got in the beaver suit,
whatever. They're not real
beavers. Correct, yes. It's a sort of a
silent film. It's like a live action
Looney Tunes kind of thing. People are like, oh you gotta
see this. And it's on SBS on
demand in Australia. I tried it and I couldn't get
through it. That bad? No, I don't think it's
bad. I think it's just you need to be in the correct mindset to watch this sort of thing.
So I'm going to give it another try at some point.
Well, I'm never going to watch that, but I appreciate you bringing it up.
Thanks man.
I only know that because you brought it up on this podcast.
I watched Super Slash Man, the Christopher Reeve story.
Didn't you watch this already?
I haven't mentioned it here.
But yes, I have watched it, Mason.
Interesting. Of course I watched it already. I didn't mentioned it here. But yes, I have watched it, Mason. Interesting.
Of course I watched it already.
I didn't come in here not having watched it.
Interesting.
I come in here every week not having watched the movie Fountain of Youth, which I'll get
to eventually.
Yeah, it's going to be a good one.
So this is a documentary that chronicles the life of Christopher Reeve and his family.
So basically it starts with his accident and it kind of cuts back to his
early acting career, how he got Superman, the highs and lows of that, his family
life, the separation he had in like the eighties.
And it's also, it's interesting because it paints like, you know, a very positive
picture of him as a man, as a person and what he did for the character of Superman
and what he did for like the community and the research that he pioneered after his accident.
But it's also, it talks about his career decline, the struggles that he had, I'm talking outside
of the accident.
Typecasting.
Typecasting, but also how he's not a perfect man.
He struggled in terms of being a father at times and all of these different things.
I just thought it was a pretty, yeah, like it was a pretty nuanced kind of perspective on him as a person.
It's interesting, the more you learn about Christopher Reeve, the more you like him,
which is often quite rare.
Because we hated him, didn't we?
We did, it's true. But that's quite rare, I think, especially in terms of like people
in Hollywood.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, the further you scroll down their Wikipedia page, you're like, oh.
Yeah, and he was friends with Robin Williams.
That's great.
That's pretty good.
Aren't we all?
So yeah, I thought it was really good and really inspiring and very tragic, obviously.
And yeah, it's well worth a look.
Does it end with his appearance in The Flash?
Oh, she doesn't come up now that I think about it.
That would have bummed me out.
I would have not liked that.
It's just, yeah, it just, just David Zaslav showing up right at the end of being like,
well,
his legacy is not ended because of course here he is in the...
He got a pack out this week.
I don't know if you saw.
Oh, for real?
For real.
Yeah, it's a proper one.
It means nothing, but you know, he did.
Yeah.
Cool.
Is that everything we've been reading?
That's everything.
Wow, we read all of those things.
That's so true, isn't it?
Do you know what it's time for now though?
It's time for letters.
You have that letters theme, right?
I've got a letters theme.
Which speakers are going to go from?
My phone's been weird lately. It seems to be different every time. Yeah, that's fine. I don't even know how many speakers this
phone has, but clearly more than one. I agree. Yeah. The classic one was... It seems louder.
That seemed to be emanating from just the screen of the phone. I didn't even know they're here right now, we're gonna do that as... That seemed to be emanating from just the screen of the phone.
I didn't even know they could do that.
A place that doesn't have a speaker.
I don't like this phone that you bought from China probably.
It's an Android.
Yeah, China.
It's a Google phone, James.
Yeah, China made that for you.
It's a Google Pixel.
Yeah, it's always looking at you and telling you about communism and how it's good.
I agree.
But I asked it to do that.
I said, Google, send me more information about good communism
That's what I said
So if you are what to reach the show you can send Mason and gmail to weekly planet pod at gmail.com
Or get in the planet broadcasting great mates Facebook group. It's the only good thing on Facebook
And there's a thread that goes out there every week and you can leave a letter. What about AI stuff?
That's all really good, too. So when it's somebody's birthday, but nobody's wished them a birthday.
I wish they had a good birthday. Happy birthday. And God bless you.
God bless you.
Here's an email from Charlie.
Charlie?
Hey mates, Kiwi listening to the podcast since primary school.
What?
When I was 10 or 11.
Don't do that.
I'm now 21 in the middle of my fourth year at music school.
Stop doing it.
Where I'm preparing myself for a career of guaranteed income.
Oh, great.
Went and saw Materialist with a date this week.
Oh, yeah.
And confirmed that the movie sparked a great conversation about dating and gave us a lot
to talk about for the rest of the night.
There you go.
That's right.
That's what you want.
Have a chat.
Yep.
It's good.
It's good to have a chat.
Yeah.
Anyway, just I thank you for this email.
I was curious about, I think last week when we talked about Materialist, I'm like, is
this a good date?
I feel like that movie's just kind of disappeared now. Well a lot of stuff. Yeah
It's been a week hasn't it? That's true. It's been a way. So I'm gonna check the box office on that
I guess it's gonna be some counter programming to it, you know
Charlie also says
He listened to the latest podcast and heard about you talking about m83 the band. I remember he recalled meeting Joseph
from about you talking about M83, the band. I remember. He recalled meeting Joseph from M83,
the co-composer of Oblivion and Tron Legacy,
with Daft Punk.
I didn't know that.
Mm.
His question is,
and I don't think we're gonna have an answer for this.
I'm ready.
I was wondering if you guys had a favorite movie score
by an artist or band not known for movie scores.
No.
No.
Yeah, we can't.
How could we ever?
No.
We don't have the, Nine Inch Nails.
Nine Inch Nails obviously.
Trent Reznor, et cetera.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Materialist looks like it's gonna fall short of its box office, etc
I'll build a cost unsurprisingly. Well make better movies that people like and broader. Yeah, who's your favorite composer?
Generally, who you who's your favorite? Uh, I well he's doing this immense guy like John Murphy
He did the source Grove Sunshine and he also is doing the upcoming Superman. Oh
Yeah, who's yours? Um
David Holmes who did all the oceans movies.
Oh, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, exactly.
Et cetera.
And I'm sure he loves being reduced to the guy who's like boop, boop, boop, boop,
boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
I mean, he did the most iconic boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
I'm stealing this, whatever.
Yeah.
Because I'm going to do a flip.
And he also does like his own albums and stuff like that.
Don't care.
Vinnie Brent says, what's your take on all the big popcorn bucket madness?
Could a bad movie sell enough popcorn buckets to be profitable?
What would a popcorn bucket have to be for you to purchase one?
I couldn't.
I won't.
I don't care about this.
It's just taking up space in my house.
Well, James, this isn't fun stuff, but I don't like that everything's just...
like they're just like, let's churn out some more plastic, you know what I mean?
They seem really impractical. I don't think we have enough environment left, to be honest.
Nah man, we're running out of environment. But you know, if you want one, why not?
Get one. Get one? If you can use it later.
Yeah. You know? Cause I know when my son and I saw... I do like the Galactus one. Get one? I just, I like the- If you can use it later. Yeah. You know?
Cause I know when my son and I saw-
I do like the Galactus one.
Yeah.
When my son and I saw,
well there's a new Reed Richards one
that looks like his arm is going around,
but it looks like his dick.
You seeing that?
No, I haven't.
I'm going up right now.
Just came up in my, you know what?
Could be fake, but here we go.
I'm gonna show it to you anyway.
So this is the Reed Richards one.
Hmm.
So it's his arm wrapped around it,
but it looks like it might not be his arm.
What is his arm wearing a fantastic four costume?
Yeah.
I mean, his penis or whatever.
I mean, probably.
He thinks ahead.
He's a genius.
You know what it is?
It's actually, I'm less mad about it, I think, popcorn buckets than you know when you go
to the supermarket and it's like, if you buy, spend $10 or whatever, you got a plastic thing
for your kids or whatever. I'm like. They've changed a lot of that. Yeah. Now it's kind if you buy spend $10 or whatever you got a plastic thing for your kids or whatever I'm like.
They've changed a lot of that.
Now it's kind of recyclable stuff.
And backlash fair enough because I'm always like don't put your customers in a position
where they have to buy a thing for their kids that they're going to demand it and then like
in six months they're going to throw it away.
A lot of time you just get them but they'll just give it to you if you spend an yeah, you know just in a shop
Obviously cuz who spends less than ten dollars at the supermarket. We're getting we're getting slaughtered out here
Yeah, but um, yeah, I remember those like do you want these Harry Potter? No fuck no God
No for so many reasons. My kids don't even like Harry Potter. I'm going to keep it that way.
That's going to be a Harry Potter free household.
Um, I don't, I don't know.
I think this is a trend that's going to go away soon.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
The kind of some interesting ones went viral, like some accidentally weird ones.
Yeah.
And then Ryan Reynolds did it with Wolverine.
And now I think it's kind of petering out, but proved me wrong.
Oh yeah.
There was a Captain America one.
That's what I said. It was an upside down Captain America one that's what I said it was an upside down
Captain America shield and with a little popcorn back in the middle and my
son was like that's cool but I was like we can't actually use it as Captain
America shield and he's like yeah good point I don't want that. Right. So you know.
Practical yours. Not that I was gonna get it anyway. Yeah. What do you got Mason?
What? I'm gonna, you told your son I'm gonna purchase it and then I'm gonna get
a single black coffee. That's right. I'm gonna get him to pour a single black coffee in the drive-thru at McDonald's and then we're gonna go. I'm gonna purchase it and then I'm gonna get a single black coffee. That's right I'm gonna get him to pour a single black coffee in the drive-thru McDonald's and then we're gonna go
I'm gonna do it. He's an email from Nick Nick. Hello boys
Hello, just wanted to say I love Caravan of Garbage and have watched every episode every week since the series started
Whoa, that's even great. Even though I am currently on an 18 consecutive video streak having not seen the movie you're talking about
That's dedication. I hope you're proud of me.
Let me have a look at what that even looks like.
Also quick update.
I proposed to my girlfriend and she said yes.
If you don't recall, Mason told me to impress her Australian immigrant parents by saying,
hey, I bet you remember going down to the milk bar for a big am and a chico roll and
then watching Norman Gunston on the telly.
Your advice worked, I guess.
And we got engaged when visiting her family in Sydney
after travelling all the way from Birmingham, Alabama. Oh my god. Bambalam. He didn't say
bambalam. I added the bambalam. Thanks and I will be stopping by soon to collect the
goat puppet as collateral for making me sit through all those Michael Crichton videos.
You're welcome. I just did the count back. He has seen the Captain America trilogy but nothing
forward. So Dead Ever Electro, all the Punisher movies, Street Fighter, Double Dragon, Uncharted,
any of the Bourne movies he hasn't seen. He hasn't seen Kongo, as mentioned. So yeah.
Wow.
If anything, he owes us.
Yeah, get some culture.
We're doing favors out here.
You're welcome.
We got you married.
Yeah.
We did that.
That's true.
Congratulations and thank you for listening.
You're very welcome.
This is a Mononymous 553 who says,
Rumours that Mine Hunters is returning with three movies.
Are you fans?
Is this the best show that deserves a return?
I loved the show and was devastated when it got cancelled.
I would love to see Mine Hunters return.
But it's never coming back.
Maybe, no, there was a thing this week that it might.
That's from Callum.
What's his name?
Holden Ford.
Holden Montgomery.
Okay.
Callum Mulvey.
No. What's his name? Holt Mc. Holden Montgomery. Okay. Calum Mulvey.
No.
What's his name?
Holt Mc...
Canananene.
Yeah, he's in the waterfront.
He's busy.
Yes.
He's busy.
Another guy from Frozen is in it.
But the main character's name is Holden Ford, right?
That's good.
I don't know.
I haven't seen Waterfront.
No, the main character of Mine Hunter is...
Dude, it's been a hundred years.
I don't remember who the main character of Mine Hunter is.
It's just funny because those are two car names.
That is funny, the cars. Yeah, I mean, it was too expensive, but maybe if they bring
it out and it's three movies, then it becomes more palatable and people can jump in on it.
I don't know. I would love to see it.
That's so true.
Yeah. What do you got, Mason?
Okay. Here's one, James. I wanted to clear something up. This is from Alonso. A couple
of people emailed him about this.
Sure.
Dear James and Mace, I've been a listener since middle school and now about 10 years
later you've said something that resonated with me so much I had to write in.
Finally!
Yeah. I completely agree with James on the Coke thing. I like the metallic sort of taste
you get with a can and you can't get that from anywhere else. Now here's the thing.
Here's the thing James.
Here's the twist, I'm ready.
I love a glass bottle of the Mexican stuff but it's just not the same as the crisp metal can of soda.
So here's the thing, James.
In America, Coke is made with high fructose corn syrup
and Mexican Coke in a glass is made with sugar.
All Coke in Australia is made with sugar.
So I just wanna clear that.
I lived in Africa.
You know this about me, Mason.
I love to travel around.
I know, you might shut up about it. But you should shut up. They've got the- You should shut Mason. I love to travel around. I know. You might shut up about it.
But you should shut up. You should shut up. I'm going to shut up. Just let me finish this and
I'll shut up. I won't say another word, I promise. You're never here for me again.
Compromise. All right, good. They have the tall glass Coke bottles and they use cane sugar.
And I don't know what the restrictions are there or how it works, but it's insane.
It's the best coke that I've ever had.
So if I had to choose a coke to drink, it would be that one.
Yeah, right.
But you can't get that in.
Yeah.
It used to what used to happen in Australia, there was a big trend for American style diners.
Yeah.
And they would often ship in Mexican coke in the glass bottles.
That's right.
But if you go to if you go to any of them now, it's just regular coke.
Somebody twigged, oh, yeah, we don't need to pay four bucks for a Mexican coke when the
regular coke is exactly the same.
Anyway.
There you go.
Yeah.
Anyways, keep up the good work and thanks for introducing me to some of your casual
Australian slang.
Because of you, I'm the only guy in the United States who's ever said Christ on a bike.
If you've got any favorite sayings or terms terms I'd love to add them to my vocabulary.
Ah, Yippee-ki-yay motherfucker, that's ours. That's ours. That's a real reservoir dogs. That's one of ours.
That's one of ours I think. Absolutely. Every Australian says that. I'm spinning around, that's us.
Well, Kylie Minogue, but that's us. Yeah, that's us. Yeah, everybody rip it up. That's 28 Days.
Yeah, that's ours. That's ours, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly, that's probably all the ones you could use.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, great. Mason's ours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. That's probably all the ones you could use.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, great.
Mason Terry Springett says, what piece of media were you insufferable about in your
respective teenage years?
The Matrix.
I was going to say the Matrix.
Although, but that was their late teenage years.
Yeah, or prior to that.
So what was before that?
I don't know.
I kind of shut up.
I didn't tell anybody I liked anything because I didn't want to get beaten up.
Yeah, I was never an insufferable guy, I don't think, I say, I say in my hazy memories.
Come on, man, I knew you then.
No.
We were the worst.
Were we?
We're like this, but younger, the worst.
I don't think that's true.
Yeah, maybe.
I think.
We met a lot of insufferable people.
Yeah, see, that's probably, I think we learned the word.
But we weren't.
No, exactly, we were normal.
Yeah, but I don't know, I think fandom and pop culture,
it's kind of different now where it's,
you can openly be more of a kind of a nerd about stuff. Not that it wasn't then, but it was, it's a bit different.
I think it's more accepting and there's more kind of niche groups and stuff, which is good.
Is that everything?
No, I've got a couple more emails.
Emails for me?
We're rich with emails this week.
I wish we were rich with money.
We're not. Nah. Can. I wish we were rich with money. We're not.
Nah.
Yeah.
Can we exchange emails for money?
No.
Okay.
Is there like a can exchange thing, but for emails?
If emails put emails in a can machine that gives you emails.
Yeah, maybe.
Remember that?
Remember all those schemes in the early internet where it's like, just read emails
and we'll pay you.
You know those?
I would love to read emails.
Exactly.
You do.
I do.
And I'm getting rich off it.
There's some Gru in Sydney.
Gru?
Gru. I loved your in despicable me one two three and then I always do and you're like that's great
I'm good. I can't do it. Good day boys. Good. I grew
I was curious about how you boys and your lovely editors get around copyright strikes and demonetization on YouTube
I got a garbage you guys tend to cover pretty well pretty well known and likely heavily protected films in the series
and I'm surprised they haven't seen many taken down or made unavailable.
What's the secret?
The secret is that you can't show a clip for too long because if you do it will get automatically
flagged.
We normally don't have a clip longer than seven seconds is generally the rule.
Also you're allowed to use them.
You're allowed to have longer clips.
So even if I'm constantly doing this. I'm constantly in copyright dispute.
Yeah. So for people who don't know, when you, you're allowed to show clips of a movie or
a TV series in the context of your reviewing it. If we would have just put up clips from
a movie, there'd be copyright issues. But what, legally in the United States, you know,
which is a YouTube thing where, where you, what you're supposed to be able to do is you're able to put in clips of something if you're reviewing it, they're technically not allowed to do that. I mean, if you were reviewing a movie that was just out at cinemas, and you had clips from the movie that weren't publicly filmed them, that would be that would be better. But like, under normal circumstances, you're allowed to put in clips as you're a viewer. a lot of media, some media companies don't care and some for whatever reason.
Fast and furious people, they really care.
They will hit you with a copyright claim and then you have to deal with it and then there's no consequences.
Exactly.
You've said before, they'll come at you and be like, you use this clip that is publicly available.
I did and it's copyright protected.
And then what happens is there's a big claim process.
And they dispute it.
And then you...
So what happens is they claim it, you dispute it, you got to click all the way through.
Yeah.
Then they will counterclaim and say, we still think this is valid.
And then you do a much longer counterclaim back where you have to put in your full address
and name and all your details because then it it's because then it's basically you're
In this legal bind now where they have to sue you
Yeah
And nobody on YouTube has ever been sued and I'm counting on the fact that the first one is not going to be made
Because also what we're doing is
Mmm is legal. Yeah to do it
They just try that what they're trying to do is spook you into it to claim the ad revenue from your video.
Something, I can't remember what it was, but we got a
copyright claim. Something was coming out and it was like one
of those, it was like a Sherlock Holmes or something
like that. Some sort of IP that every once in a while brings
something out and then they just go and they claim everything.
Absolutely, that happens a lot. And you'll be like, a bunch of
YouTube people will be like, oh, I got my video taken down
or whatever.
And it's the same thing.
It's just like they're sort of out for everything.
Yeah, absolutely.
Anyway, it's cool.
I think.
Yeah, it's cool.
And it's cool that there's no, you can't count as soon.
Absolutely no consequences for it.
Yeah.
So that's fun.
It's just a hassle to do.
It's not that big a deal.
But yeah, I know a lot of people ask me this, but you don't need to worry about them.
The only reason we do them in seven seconds also is because it's less likely to be automatically
picked up.
Ben and Lawrence, they're all over that though.
So yeah, even that still happens.
Is that it, Mason?
Mason Hickman Oh, hang on.
Here's the most recent one.
Copyright claim.
Oh, I was just on this.
Oh, they also copyright claim the podcast, which is ridiculous
because there's no video on that. Yeah, right. And we never play clips from anything. I just
Google copy. I just went to copyright claim in the in the in the Gmail. The most recent
one was no, this is from 2023 Super Mario Brothers speedrun. Apparently we got claimed
for that. Oh, okay. Oh, that was a big sandwich thing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, that doesn't
matter because that's not monetized anyway. So currently I have, I'm just having a look here. I have
32 videos in copyright dispute.
Okay, right.
Yeah. Light of Fast and Furious, the things in there, both of those. That's fun.
It does sound like fun.
Suicide Squad, the Caravan of Garbage review.
This is all really good.
Oh yeah, a copyright claim for our podcast, including Ahsoka, Loki Season 2 and The Bee
Keeper.
That's great.
Which is great because again, no video there.
I got a copyright review on my Hercules 2014, Dwayne The Rock Johnson review.
Yeah, good luck.
You get a lot of money out of that one.
Oh yeah, Fast and Furious, that's all in there.
That's great.
Yeah, a lot of Doctor Who stuff gets claimed.
Yeah. I wish I could remember the... It doesn't matter. Anyway, here's all in there, that's great. Yeah, a lot of Doctor Who stuff gets claimed. Yeah.
I wish I could remember the... it doesn't matter.
Anyway, here's one more email, James.
Sure.
It's from Ben.
Ben?
Hi James and Mace, I recently found your podcast
and have been loving all your new and old content.
Well, I recently found your podcast and the same.
Nice. Good job, Ben.
I had a good chuckle during your review of John Wick Ballerina when,
despite repeating the title numerous times
and talking about her dancing as part of the plot,
you both thought the movie ended with her at a boring opera instead of a boring ballet
Oh, yeah
This leads me to my question if a John wick style assassin showed up and forced you with a gun to your head to go
To a live entertainment event that you hated. What would you choose had to go to a boring thing that I hated
Yep, could I pick something that I liked?
No, I would go to a kid's
Pantomime. Yep, they're awful. I've been to a bunch of them because
they're short. They're like 40 minutes.
Okay. What about a parent-teacher interview? That's not a live entertainment event.
I mean, I did them, obviously. And sitting down with a teacher, sitting down and doing
like 30 of those in a row is excruciating. It's like you're by the end, you don't even
know what you're saying. You just feel like you're going insane. So when I go to them,
I'm like, it's fine. I don't need to we don't need to yeah
I'm like I probably go with poetry slam. Oh, it'd be in a cafe or something. Yeah coffee or whatever
Do those do those ones? Yeah, just some of those. Yeah. Yeah, and also like it would be more thrilling to know that when things kick off
Oh
Poetry slam gets cancelled. That would be good. Everybody has to run. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely
Let's go to one. Let's go to one.
And cheer.
Because I think it's good and all expressions of art are good.
I agree.
Yeah.
Art is beautiful.
Mm hmm.
Sometimes you get 28 years later.
Sometimes you get a poetry slam.
I agree.
That's right.
Is that the show?
And that's Reservoir Dogs.
It certainly is.
It's a real Reservoir Dogs.
Folks, that's the whole show.
Thank you so much for listening.
Somebody emailed in, is this, do I read off a script?
No.
No, you read it, you got this.
I should have just written it down
in a notes app in my phone.
Sometimes you do get lost.
I do get lost a lot.
But you feel like you got it mostly in check.
I mostly got it.
While you're doing this,
I'm just gonna do some copyright dispute stuff.
Okay, terrific.
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Nah man, I'm here for this one.
Oh yeah.
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True.
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And, but probably F1 more specifically.
And F1. Probably F1 is the priority here.
Yeah, I would say so. Depends how our week goes.
You got a pretty hectic shift schedule this week.
I got a hectic week, but that's all right, James.
I'm going to get this money back for these thing reviews. Nice. One of them's like do you
want to trim out the segment of this video that's been copyright claimed?
It's like 22 minutes of the video. Yeah cool I'll do that. Because again they
can't they don't have to they don't have to prove they just go yeah yeah. Is it
some of it robots? A lot of it's robots. You should be able to be in the room with some of these people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just be like, hey, hello.
Can I ask you some questions?
Slap. That's them slapping me.
Wow. They slapped you.
It's embarrassing for you.
I know.
Why would you want to be in the room with them?
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
I'm telling you that.
OK.
All right. Bye, everyone.
Grab that gem you guys.
We'll see you next week.
They slapped me.
I know.