The Weekly Planet - 580 28 Years Later (23 Years Later)

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

It’s been 23 years in the makes but the long awaited sequel to 28 Days Later (and 28 Weeks Later) is finally here! With Danny Boyle and Alex Garland returning some people are like ‘we hate this!�...�  Plus we talk John Bernthal’s The Punisher returning for Spider-Man: Brand New Day,  Tom Rhys Harries playing Clayface, Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow retitled, James Gunn thinks superhero showdowns are stupid and his thoughts on the MCU decline, Ballerina, Thunderbolts and Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning underperforming, no Transformers One Two, our first look at He-Man in Masters of the Universe, trailers for Naked Gun 2025 and SpaceBalls 2 plus more! Thanks for listeningNew bonus clickbait podcast episode out now! Plus entire back-catalogue of let's play videos, bonus podcasts, movie commentaries, early access and ad-free episodes all available on https://bigsandwich.coPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start04:18 The Punisher in Spider-Man 4 Movie08:53 Clayface Movie Actor Cast11:56 Supergirl Movie's Title14:10 Superman's Power Level in New DCU16:33 James Gunn Shoots Down MCU Debate18:55 Movies Behaving Badly at Box Office25:44 Transformers One Sequel Not Happening27:56 He-Man Movie First Look29:10 Naked Gun Trailer32:11 Spaceballs 2 Trailer34:33 28 Years Later Movie Review56:33 28 Years Later Spoiler Segment01:11:14 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:17:18 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:49 and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. It's great to be here. I've always wondered of the logic behind what you're doing, just generally, but also with the can opening thing. Are you sort of, are you adopting a real kind of like, is it meant to be like a laid-back vibe? We're all cracking a can.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Is that what you're taking from it? I think so. Then yes. It's open to interpretation. It's like how what does reservoir dogs mean? Reservoir dogs. Reservoir dogs mean. It's French. What does it mean? What does the entire movie? Because Quentin Tarantino is like, he's asked like, what does the title mean? Like he's been asked, he's like, well, what does it mean to you? Because when I tell you what it means, then that becomes
Starting point is 00:02:29 the official explanation. What do you bring to me? This is a real death of the author situation. No, it's a real reservoir dog situation. Because you know what it means, but you want us to take our own interpretation. I know exactly what it means. But I love your interpretation, which may be right. I think it's, I always thought it was a vibe kind of thing, like a laid back vibe. But is it a party situation? I guess people can tell. No, the can thing.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I think the can thing, I guess you can take from it whatever you want. It's not for me to say. I guess me overanalyzing it is ruining it for a lot of people right now. When your art is out in the world, that no longer belongs to you. It's true. Death of the author or the Mason Reservoir Dogs. The Reservoir Dogs situation. Anyway, yeah, it's a big week for movies. Death of the author or the Mason reservoir dogs. Reservoir dog situation. Anyway, it's a big week for movies.
Starting point is 00:03:10 What do you think reservoir dogs means? What do I think it means? No, just a bunch of scummy dudes. Yeah, right. Because, you know, in Melbourne, reservoir is full of scum. It is. It's full of scummy dudes. That's coming up. My grandma used to live there. Well, yeah, then she died.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Now it's coming up. That's one of the scummy dudes. That's coming up. My grandma used to live there. Well, yeah, then she died. Now it's coming up. That's right. God bless her. But I guess, but also there's a movie from years ago, I can't remember who directed it. It's probably one of the Cullen Brothers or something. But it's got Clooney in it. It's called Welcome to Collinwood. Not Collingwood, but welcome to...
Starting point is 00:03:37 Where is that from? It's from the late 90s, early 2000s. Yeah. It's got George Clooney and it's got Sam Rockwell. Sam Rockwell, William H Macy directed it? Anthony Russo and Joe Russo. Russo brothers there we go I knew it was somebody I remembered. What is this? I knew it was somebody I remembered but it's about a bunch of down and outs doing like like like in the olden times doing like a safe heist. Okay is it good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 55% Rotten Tomatoes can't be that good. I liked it. Yeah. I'm just saying. 55% Rotten Tomatoes. I think I bought the DVD for a dollar. So like for a dollar it was worth it. It's pretty good for a dollar. But anyway, even though it's not Collingwood in Melbourne, similar down and out vibe. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Okay. Interesting. You know, Collingwood. I know what it's like. You know what Collingwood and Reservoir are like? You're ready to pass judgement on those. Scumbags. Yeah, scumbags.
Starting point is 00:04:23 That's what I'm saying. Absolutely scumbags. Yeah. If you moved there, you're a scumbag. If you lived there and you moved out,ags. Yeah, scumbags. That's what I'm saying. Absolutely scumbags. If you moved there, you're a scumbag. If you lived there and you moved out, you're still a scumbag. That's exactly right. Stay where you are. If you've spent even a moment there, like I have.
Starting point is 00:04:31 What? Scumbag. Now that tracks. If you've ever driven through a scumbag. Mason, it's 28 years later time. It is true. Or as I like to call it, 23 years later. That's a little joke.
Starting point is 00:04:41 That's from me to you. Can I use that? Yeah, you can use it, but you have to say that I told you it every time you use it. Okay. All right. So that's... What happened to Death of the Author, man? Reservoir Dogs. What happened to Reservoir Dogs, man?
Starting point is 00:04:54 I thought your art was free. Not this one. Okay. We've also got a bit of news in the lead up. There's time codes below if you're doing a jump to anything. Rob Colling's the one who edits this. He makes sure they're down in the description. That's right. We're going to talk about The Punisher's
Starting point is 00:05:06 next appearance and how it's in Spider-Man movie. Ooh, the rumours were right. They were right probably. We're going to talk about casting for the DCU movie Clayface. We're going to talk about a new title for Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, the Supergirl movie. It's just Supergirl. Yeah, and what James Gunn thinks about this character versus that character, etc. Plus he talks about the decline of Marvel. He said they're bad now, that's what he said, but then he clarified some stuff. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Then I want to talk about some movies that underperformed, because it's been a big underperforming year Mason for big movies. And overperforming for some stuff. That's true. Sinners did well. Some things did too well like the movie Sinners. They did too well. Yeah. Then we're going to talk about Transformers 1-2 and then we're going to talk about He-Man, because there's a picture of He-Man sort of, and then we're going to talk about Transformers 1-2 and then we're going to talk about He-Man because there's a picture of He-Man sort of and then we're going to talk about some trailers including Naked Gun and Spaceballs. It's a big comedy week. We just missed this Spaceballs trailer. A big week for comedies that are going to underperform as is par for this year. Absolutely and that's what we love. That's right. Let's start with
Starting point is 00:06:01 this via variety. The Punisher's John Berenthal from the accountant in the account want. He's going to appear in Spider-Man Brand New Day, which is the fourth MCU Spider-Man solo movie. But not solo, obviously. None of them have been a solo movie. Is this a rights issue that's never been publicly addressed? Because you know how we talked about how Hulk is partially owned by Universal or something like that, the movie rights, so he can't have a solo movie anymore. Is this a thing that they've just never addressed? For The Punisher or Spider-Man?
Starting point is 00:06:38 For Spider-Man, because the Spider-Man rights are partially owned by Sony. It's still owned by Sony. Does that mean he can't truly have a solo movie There has to be an iron man or a if he's in the if it's the MCU one Yeah, then Marvel have most creative control. Yeah, and they can lend him out for them So you but also like, you know, it's been You know, it's it's been iron man and then Nick Fury. Yeah, and then Other spider-man. Yes. Yeah, I don't know
Starting point is 00:07:07 I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I don't know you but we're having a good time. That's true Yeah, it's happy Hogan in spider-man 3 he is and daredevil. Yeah. Yeah, maybe I think it just It solidifies those movies as real movies. That's the actual spider. As opposed to the actual Sony Spider-Man spinoff movies, which aren't real movies. Yeah, exactly, yeah. None of those are real movies. Because otherwise, Sony would have, if they don't put in legit other Marvel characters,
Starting point is 00:07:32 they'd have to use, again, they'd have to attempt to use a lot of Spider-Man's supporting cast. They'd be like, look out, it's a wide-winged foot. Oh, that's good. It is good. This rumor, there was a long-standing rumor that this Spider-Man movie was gonna be a street level Spider-Man movie. Yeah. It's gonna be Spider-Man and the Punisher team up to fight the Hulk. That's right. Yeah. That
Starting point is 00:07:53 was from the Hot Mic podcast. I think that was one of the first times that was revealed. One of the first appearances of Hot Mic. Was that true? How's he looking? A wreck this guy. No. Yeah the fame got to him. What happened to him? And then he had too many botched surgeries. Oh no. Yeah yeah yeah because he broke this story and he got beat. You could fix that with more surgeries though couldn't you? Absolutely. Push through. Yeah. It's a horseshoe theory of surgeries. Yeah. You come around and you. Or you can get that one where they just pull your entire face back and you look incredible. You know there's that one guy? Yeah yeah yeah. We know who he's done it to. He looks really good. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess is this also kind of a World War Hulk situation?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Or maybe. Planet Hulk, which is the one where Hulk tries to take over Earth and he's sort of a villain. That's... I think it's World War Hulk. That's World War Hulk. Planet Hulk is when he goes to... They did that. They did a Thor Ragnarok, which was sort of...
Starting point is 00:08:37 But do we know the Hulk is confirmed for this? No, that's the rumor, that it's going to be Bruce Banner. What's his name? The actor. Mark Ruffalo. Who is still smart Hulk at the moment, maybe. He went back. He went to regular man in She-Hulk, and then he went back to Hulk because he had a car crash.
Starting point is 00:08:51 That's true. Yeah. Confirmed. OK, but in She-Hulk, did he go, he was regular Mark Ruffalo, and then later in the season, he was smart Hulk again. Was there a moment where he was like Savage Hulk? We don't really see it, though. I think so. Because there's a moment where he changed. There he's in the car crash, and he changes back. Oh, yeah, he does smart Hulk again. Was there a moment where he was like savage Hulk? We don't really see it though.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Because there's a moment where he changed. He's in the car crash and he changes back. Is he briefly monstrous Hulk? Maybe he is. Maybe he's during the transformation. Yeah, maybe. Maybe this takes place between then.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Between those split seconds. In those split seconds. That's probably true. I think that's good. Frank, we've got to team up and stop that. Oh, it's fine. He's fine. He's going back to normal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:26 How do you feel about that? The Punisher being cinematic. I would like to see more tactical Punisher stuff and not just run in and just run around Punisher. Well he's going to be doing a lot of running around. Yeah, but you know he's... The very nature of the Spider-Man franchise and doing this in the MCU and a big cinematic kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:09:48 It requires him to just do running around. Yeah, but you know in Daredevil, the last season that came out born again, skip ahead if you don't want to hear this. When he appears in that, he's like, I don't want to fight. I'm not the Punisher. I'm a guy. And then he decides to fight, but then he- Actually, I'm going to fight.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And then he gets captured immediately, which I guess may be part of his larger plan, but he just felt like he half-assed that kind of... And you know, if you look at like Punisher Warzone... You want a full arcing. Yeah, I want to get your full arcing to a barren fall. And we'll see. We'll see, Mason. It's good. Good things are good. And bad things, they're not as good.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah. But they can still be fun. You excited for his second season of American Gigolo? Full arcing it? I haven't seen that yet. I didn't watch first season. I watched some of it. And? It's alright. Yeah. Yeah. But they can still be fun. You excited for his second season of American Gigolo? Full arseing it? I haven't seen that yet. I didn't watch first season. I watched some of it. And? It's alright. Yeah. Yeah. And that's television. That's right. It's alright. There's so much, there's too much. Mason. Yes. The DCU has confirmed a new actor. Oh. Welsh actor Tom Rhys Harries Welsh actor Tom Rhys Harrys will play Clayface in the Mike Flanagan sort of rote body horror movie which they then maybe rewrote because it wasn't a real
Starting point is 00:10:51 script or something. Something like that. Now I only know that him from the episode of Doctor Who from the previous season where he's like it's the planet of the influencers episode where he's like the most he's the most famous influencer. He's got a good look. Yeah. Like he's got the, he looks like, he looks very modern, but I feel like he's got, he's got like a Peter O'Toole, you know, like the high cheekbones Lawrence of Arabia kind of like. When I saw him, I'm like, oh, they'll do the, the actor version.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Matt. No, no, sorry. That they're doing, apparently according to the rap, they're doing Matt Hagen. Okay. So he's not the actor. But the actor one is, um, yeah, but. They're doing, apparently, according to the rap, they're doing Matt Hagen. Okay, so he's not the actor. But the actor one is... Basil Carla. Yeah, but I guess they could mesh.
Starting point is 00:11:28 They could merge like a clay face. Because the second, this would be, if they go with this guy, it's the second version of a clay face, and he first appeared in Detective Comics 298, and he's a treasure hunter who gains shapeshifting abilities from a radioactive pool of protoplasm. Correct. That's not as interesting as an actor.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Correct, yes. Spinning out. But I mean, he could, I mean- He could do both. He could do both, but you know- And apparently the script's incredible in body horror. Yeah, okay. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:11:54 I think he's got a good look, why not? And they have to put a weird one in the first ECU slate, because James Gunn did say it's gods and monsters. Oh, he did, so he needs a monster. He's got to put a monster in there. He's got a monster in. Sure's got a monster in. Yeah. Sure they did create your commanders but it doesn't count. It's a cartoon.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah. It's nothing. It's not real. You look at it. Somebody drew it. It's not real. This is real. If they even drew it maybe they could computer do it.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Maybe they could computer do it. If it computed it I would be fucking furious Mason. You know me. But you just said it doesn't count. Yeah I'd be mad at it though. Don't you think? I guess you can do two things. I guess you can not care and be mad about it.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Thank you. So yeah, I'm interested to see where... Reservoir dog situation. Thank you for saying that. Two years away at least, I would say. So yeah, 2027 and beyond. Yeah. Lower budget as well, apparently.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Jantion also mentioned that even though Guillermo del Toro is like, I would love to do Justice League Dark, he's like, he's never spoken to me about it. James Gunn has never spoken to him about it. Yeah. Interesting. But he's like, I would, I would like to talk to him about that. So I don't know, man. A lot of people out there just-
Starting point is 00:12:58 Stop making Pacific Rim sequels or whatever you're doing. No, he's doing Frankenstein for Netflix. He's doing Frankenstein. I think that's finished. So, ah, James. Oh, yeah. Just a lot of people talking at each other through social media. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Take a meeting, guys. Get off your phones, fellas. Yeah, what are you doing? And ladies. Get off your phones and get on your real phone. Your talking phone. Your talking phone that you talk on. And talk to James Gunn.
Starting point is 00:13:17 God, imagine calling someone. Ugh, yeah. Yuck. Yeah. You're not even a millennial Guillermo del Toro. Nah, man. You're from the 70s or something. Or something. We don't know where you're from. Yeah. You're watching black a millennial Guillermo del Toro. You're from the 70s or something. Something.
Starting point is 00:13:26 We don't know where you're from. You're watching black and white movies probably. Probably. We don't like that. Just Plan 9 from Outer Space constantly on loop in your house. Yeah, man. Make a phone call. Make a phone call.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Call someone. James Gunn. Yeah, well this is why I'm Rolling Stone. So James Gunn confirmed that Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow based on the comic of the same name is probably just going to be called Superman. He said- It's going to be called Superman. Sorry, Supergirl.
Starting point is 00:13:51 God. Amazing. I made a huge error there. James. And I'm going to let you forget it. You're going to let me forget it? Yeah. I feel like you're going to remind me of it.
Starting point is 00:13:59 No, no. No, no. Let bygones be bygones. I feel like you're going to clip this and send it to me. That's what I think. That's right. I'm going to learn how to do that later in I feel like you're going to clip this and send it to me. That's what I think. That's right. I'm going to learn how to do that later in the week and I'm going to clip it and send it to you.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I look forward to it. James Gunn said, I'm sick of the superhero title, colon, other name thing. I guess that means if he's doing sequels to things, I guess it'd be like Batman Begins or the Dark Knight style naming of stuff. It's amazing that the Dark Knight wasn't called Batman Begins colon the Dark Knight really in hindsight. So yeah I'm open to this. Maybe the year of colons is over. I hope not. They do so much for us. Yeah I agree but you know maybe they've run their course. Also I think enough time has passed that I can say I do not
Starting point is 00:14:43 like the Nolan trilogy naming. I think it's bad. Like the I don't like the last name. Well I don't like that it's the Batman begins the Dark Knight then the Dark Knight rises. I agree. I hate it. It's awful. Big mistake. What should I call the last one? Batman how did he get out of... Big Batman's big last adventure. Yeah. Yeah. How did he get out of Gotham with the nuclear bomb? We'll never know. Yeah, I'll never tell you. Yeah. No, I remember hearing the Dark Knight rises and going really. Mm-hmm Yeah, even Batman Begins Rises, I think is a good title. Is the mistake calling the second one the Dark Knight? I think it is. I think it's I don't know if that's a mistake, but I think they went that's the biggest movie we've ever made Yeah, that's our brand now we've ever made. Yeah. That's our brand now.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Because it's called the Dark Knight trilogy. Yeah. Even though the first one's not called the Dark Knight colon, Batman Begins. That's true. Yeah. Brackets. Lot of time in the snow. Running around in the woods.
Starting point is 00:15:36 You know? Does he run around the woods? No, I don't think he ever ran around in the woods. That's probably why they didn't call it that. Yeah. I don't think at any point he runs around the woods. I should watch those movies. You should finally watch them. Yeah, I will. think he ever ran around in the woods. That's probably why they didn't call it that. I don't think at any point he runs around. You should watch those movies. You should finally watch them.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah, I will. You've been faking it mostly for decades at this point. People know. I've had a lot of comments. And Mason, James Gunn said on who Superman would beat in a fight. I mean, people are constantly talking about it. Some podcasts, not to name names, do episodes entirely around one character versus another character and who would win embarrassing slop absolutely slop yeah
Starting point is 00:16:08 we should do another one of those actually yeah we should so yeah our sloppiest ever he said I wanted Superman to be vulnerable I see the things online who would beat whom Homelander or Superman or fucking whatever Superman would beat home yeah it's not even a. He's only the strongest guy in that universe. Yeah. Adam Warlock or Brightburn. And I'm like, this is the fucking stupidest fucking conversation. Like so.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I mean Brightburn. Brightburn would beat Adam Warlock? He'd beat MCU Adam Warlock. Yeah, that's probably true. He wouldn't beat comic book Adam Warlock. Yeah, that's yeah. Like so, whoever would win this fight means that they're the best. Because I'll just go out and write God Man Who can destroy with a wink and I win?
Starting point is 00:16:47 I mean all the fights are about I'm pretty sure James Gunn you would be sue because there's already a God man Oh, yeah, and also we're creating a whole universe now. So what's a girl with wings gonna do in the face? Oh, but I didn't want Superman who could punch planets and also we're creating a whole new universe now So what's a girl with wings gonna do in the face of that? I think Superman's gonna if this goes for a decade or so, I think he's gonna get more powerful as he goes. So he's a little less powerful, Guy Gardner's pretty fucking powerful, they're all pretty powerful.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Honestly, in talking to people, a lot of people are also like, I like Batman better because it can actually be beat, and I get that. Did James Gunn do the voice? I like Batman better. Sometimes I talk to people, you know, and they go, meh, meh. Did James Gunn do the voice? I like Batman better. Sometimes I talk to people and they go, BWAH! BWAH! They do though, don't they?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah, they do actually, a lot of the time. So we have a Superman that can be beat. Looks like that, and in the trailer, he's certainly, the dog beats him up as well. That's true. Which I think is bad. Yeah. And that's bad writing. Every man and his dog beats him up.
Starting point is 00:17:41 So there you go. Yeah, he's definitely, from the yeah, he's definitely from the trailers. He's definitely a scaled down superman. And I think that, that appeals to a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he's crying and such. He's crying and such.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Not long now, July 11th, some people are seeing it in advance. Yeah, some people are getting ahead of it. Not us. I mean, waiting on that email. Someone actually go to that one. Yeah. See it in IMAX. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:03 The eve, the afternoon before. Yeah. Look at that. Yeah. Look at that big, that big googly-eyed shot that. Yeah. Well, he took that out apparently. Oh, Cameron. Coward. I know. I agree. We want a googly Superman. I want a googly Superman. And he mentioned this on The Decline of Marvel. Executive producer Lewis, De Esposito said, they put out too much privately to me. I don't even know if that's really their fault. That wasn't fair. It wasn't right.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And it killed them. We have to treat every project as if we're lucky. We don't have the mandate to have a certain amount of movies and TV shows every year. And he said this on threads later to be clear. Yes. And as is clear in the context of the interview, I didn't say it killed them like they're over, but they were screwed by the situation they had no control over. They're on the other side of that now, which is good. So there you go. Are they on the other side of it though? We don't know. We'll find out in like one
Starting point is 00:18:55 to two years when stuff comes out. Imagine if Kevin Feige had retired officially at like an end game. And then all this would be happening, Pip would be like, well, that's because Kevin Feige left. But now it is happening because Kevin Feige officially it like an end game. It's like I'm done. And then all this would be happening, but it would be like, well, that's because Kevin Feige left and- But now it is happening because Kevin Feige is still there. He must leave. Like sometime in the near future. No, in the near future, right?
Starting point is 00:19:12 Like he'd have to step away. I think I saw a tweet that said he was leaving after Doomsday, but- Maybe he is. Or Secret Wars, but I'm gonna, you know, maybe- I wonder if he left at Doomsday and he's like, last one, somebody else's problem. Yeah, that'd be great. Secret Wars, not my problem.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Don't give a shit. Yeah. Unless it makes a billion dollars, in which case I did it. I laid the groundwork for two decades, if you don't mind. Which is fine, I guess. I read a thing, I don't know where. Twitter? Yeah, probably. Substack?
Starting point is 00:19:40 I doubt it was on Twitter. Might have been on Substack. Medium.com? Sometimes I got a Twitter by accident, like I'll click a link and it takes me over and I'm like, oh no, I'm stuck in this. Where apparently they're going back to more ground level TV shows and they're doing the bigger events in the movies, which is what they were basically doing before the Disney Plus stuff. They've done a test run for a few years of not that and it didn't work.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Putting their secret invasions on the television. At least that was a good one. That was a good one. It did have the most powerful being in the universe, a woman who could change her arms into anybody's arms. That's true. That's true. Think of all the...
Starting point is 00:20:16 Imagine you had that power in real life. Think about whose arms you could change your arms into. The Rock. Yep. Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg. Yep. Rosa Parks. Do you think? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. The Rock. Yep. Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg. Yep. Rosa Parks.
Starting point is 00:20:26 You think? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. That would be brave of me. I think so. And I do it. Cause that's how I am. Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:38 So speaking of things like underperforming. Yes. You probably read, but ballerina is not doing super well. I didn't read that. Thanks for bringing it up now. You're welcome. I was in the middle of a podcast. I'm trying to keep the energy up and you're like, oh, ballerina is not doing super well. I didn't read that. Thanks for bringing up now They're welcome. I was in the middle of a podcast. I'm trying to keep the energy up and you're like ballerina I'll get the energy up. You just feel your feelings. All right, this is sad. I'm sad old used to me All right, keep it inside though. Yeah, nobody wants to hear you shit
Starting point is 00:21:02 Let's go it's got like a So, it's got like a 70 to 80 million dollar budget and it's just not going to make its money back. So, which might end the John Wick spin off stuff potentially. They're probably like setting some subtle text to Keanu Reeves. You know, he's always giving away his money. You know, he's always like, you know, he gave away like 50 million dollars of his Matrix sequels money and all that sort of stuff. They're probably like, hey Keanu, this isn't doing that well.
Starting point is 00:21:24 We need 50 billion. We can use 50 million. I liked it. I thought it was pretty good. But hey, it is what it is. And this is my world of real, in regards to Thunderbolts. Apparently it needed 500 million to break even. So it's going to probably lose about 100 million.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And according to Variety, Marvel Studios will start spending less money on their budget For future films after the new Avengers, which is what it sort of titled bombed at the box office Yeah, I mean I could have told you that Prior to this movie coming out. Yeah, I guess I had to build that bunker Yeah, they did and had to build that new door closed if they. And they had to build that New York Street. And the doors closed if they were real. They might have been fake CGI doors. Apparently that New York Street isn't real. The whole street. That's the whole thing they built. Just use regular New York I reckon. You can't mate, it's busy. Everyone's always getting a hot dog. Okay but remember that time Vanilla Sky? Do you remember that? Oh yeah. They closed
Starting point is 00:22:19 that off didn't they? Yeah for like 15 minutes or whatever. Tom Cruise ran around. That's right. Yeah. And he's fast. You couldn't do it with a slower actor. It takes too long. That's true, actually. Yeah. It's a shame.
Starting point is 00:22:32 It was a good movie. I think so too. But you know, sometimes good movies are bad and don't do well. I mean, but you know, I feel like the lesson they should take from this is some of the stuff isn't going to make a billion dollars. Absolutely. You know, and you take the good with the bad and some stuff takes a loss. Yeah. And you know, people see it later on streaming and etc. And that helps build the brand like, like, again, we've talked about this all the time, like, old school movie
Starting point is 00:22:55 producing and movie studio stuff was they made 20 movies a year. Yeah, and some did okay. But it was good. Yeah, but they cost like four or five million dollars a yeah, and then a couple of movies made were huge hits and paid for the rest kind of thing. But what the lesson they appear to have taken from this is just lower the budgets all around. Yeah, which makes which makes either the people are going to get the directors and producers are going to have to get creative, or the movies are just going to look worse than they already do. Do you have a there's a room do we have to see the rumor is that the director of Thunderbolts is gonna do the X-Men movie? Oh, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Jake Shrine. Yeah, I like that. He clearly can do a team dynamic. And he's sad. Yeah. He seems sad. Oh my god, Mason. Which I think would work for the X-Men.
Starting point is 00:23:39 You love being sad. Yeah. You brought that today. Yeah. I'm not allowed to say anything. No, you shouldn't. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. I think if he's, I mean, I think that anything. No, you shouldn't. Yeah That's great. Yeah, I think if he's I mean, I think that that's also even though this movie is underperforming
Starting point is 00:23:54 If this is true, at least Marvel recognized that he did a good job. That's true Yeah, and he probably didn't I don't know like this is an Andy Machete situation. That's right You know the flash underperform, but he did a good job. He did a good job and it's a good movie That's right. Dean Cain should have been the The Flash. So he should have been that Superman. Yeah. Speaking of. It's weird that he was the only one that didn't get the call. Completely agree.
Starting point is 00:24:12 We have been watching the Lewis and Clyde, the new Adventures of Superman. And also Adventures of Superman from 1952. That's true, yeah. So that's out this week for Caravanor Garbage. We're doing some TV Superman stuff. God, I'm having a great time though, going through this stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:23 This old crap. Me too. Yeah, right? It's great. Sometimes we were through this stuff. This old crap. Yeah, right? Sometimes we were told crap and it's just crap. It's just crap. Sometimes it's crap, but it's fun. This is charming crap. Yeah, so that's fun. And out this week.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah, so speaking of things at bomb, this is via World of Real. No, sorry, this is via Box Office forecast. Apparently Mission Impossible, the final reckoning is set to lose. Guess. $300 million. That is dead on yes how'd you do that i guess yeah that's like 500 probably too much too much you're right and it's doing okay
Starting point is 00:24:52 it's got to be a decent it's got to be like a big amount it's going to be a shocking headline yeah because like this this is going to lose a million dollars who cares just get keanu reeves on the horn get him on that he'll give you the money he'll sigh deeply and he'll give you the money it's projected to end its theatrical run on $600 million, potentially failing to break even with a production budget of $400 million. Must be nice. You've got the whole crew going around to every city, eating weird foods for Lad Bible and whatever. That's not free. No. That costs money.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Ladbible they're going under. They did that as a favor. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that. Yeah. Wow. I told you, I think it was Ladbible. Maybe it was Brobible. One of those. Oh yeah. You didn't tell me this. Whatever it is, you didn't tell me. Okay. So yeah, there's 16 bit scenes that go up on my channel. There's actually a new one. John Stratton.
Starting point is 00:25:42 John Stratton. He's currently working on one at the moment. It's actually very exciting. But um, You keep asking him to do 16-bit sex scenes. Yeah Even though you refer to them as erotica He knows he knows you're trying to trick him. Does he won't take you money. You figured that out didn't he? You've been talking to him. Yeah, did you hit Did you tip him off? I did tip him off, yeah. What are we talking about? I forgot. When, I can't remember which one it was, but whenever one of them would come out, I'd get
Starting point is 00:26:12 approached by like, Labbible or whatever. Oh, can you share this? And they'd be like, can we have this? Yeah, right. And just like, can you have it? I mean, I can't stop you technically. Yeah, I can't, yeah. And people do, they get ripped all the time.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But um. And so, the worst is when something's like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going stop you technically. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, but people do. They get ripped all the time. Yeah. Yeah. But um. And so the worst is when something like that or somebody's piece of artwork or video or whatever gets ripped off or some, you know, somebody's done a, you know, a really affect
Starting point is 00:26:35 heavy kind of, you know, little short film or whatever. And somebody will repost it and be like, who made this? Let us know who made this? And it's like, you know. You cut the credits out. Yeah, you cut it. There was a watermark at the bottom and you cut it off. Like, not to get into specifics, but like those cost thousands of dollars, as they should, because he takes fucking forever to make them and they're incredibly, not that wasn't there. He takes fucking forever, Mason.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I'm sick of him. And they're detailed and like we get this other guy, Kenny, Max, to do the music and it's this whole thing and Like I'm not just gonna give this to you. Yeah, it's crazy. It's out of your hands. It's a reservoir dog situations Thank you. Once it's out there Ladd Bible can have it Or fuck Jerry, you know, whatever Probably yeah, they probably sold around? Probably. Yeah. They probably sold it for a lot of money. So director Josh Cooley was at BotCon 25.
Starting point is 00:27:31 He directed Transformers 1. And he was speaking about Transformers 1-2, which is the sequel to Transformers 1. Now it was going to be a trilogy. And the third one's going to be Transformers 1-2, Buckle My Shoe. Yeah. Transform My Shoe? Yeah, that'sers one to buckle my shoe. Yeah transform my shoe It was to be a trilogy but the first one cost 75 million dollars and it made a hundred twenty nine million despite being quite Good pretty good So that's not happening. They're not doing any more of those and I think they're kind of in a like a holding pattern for
Starting point is 00:28:02 Transformers slash GI Joe at the moment, trying to figure out what to do with it. That's true, yeah. It seems. What are you going to put in that warehouse? What are they going to put in that warehouse? I would say nothing. Just keep it empty.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You think that's the smart move? I think that's what they'll do. I think this next Transformers movie is at least four years away. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Well, they've got to figure out who's going to pay for it. Yeah. Because Hasbro don't want to pay for this anymore. I don't want to say Hasbro announced not that long ago.
Starting point is 00:28:26 We talked about it, but they're no longer co-funding any of these projects. I guess since Battleship, you know, in 2012 or whatever it was, we should watch that. No, we should. No, we should do a Caravan of Garbage series on board games that became movies. OK. Cluedo. Yep. I don't know. What's the other one? Give me another one. Clue. The American Okay. Cluedo. Yep. I don't know. What's the other one? Give me another one. Clue. The American version of Cluedo. Oh, okay. I was gonna say you can't do Jumanji because Jumanji
Starting point is 00:28:51 wasn't a board game first. No, I don't think it was. Good. Let's keep it that way. Yeah. All right. Speaking of toys. Americans. Clue everywhere else is called Cluedo. Just so you know. I didn't know it was called Clue in America. Yeah, it is. I guess the movie. Let me just check something. OK. Boar... Movies based on board games.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Here we go. Game Night? No. No. Clue the movie? No. Zathura? No.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Ouija? I guess, technically. Yeah, I guess. Is Ouija a board game? I don't think of it as a board game. No. It's a party situation. No. I don't know about this, man. So I guess. Is Ouija a board game? I don't think of it as a board game. It's a party situation. No. I don't know about this, man.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So I guess there's two, specifically. Three if you count Ouija. Which I don't. We'll find another one. Zathura. Maybe the... We did Zathura already. Even if that is a board game. Alright, Mason. Alright. Speaking of 80s toy crap becoming movies.
Starting point is 00:29:44 We're going to first look at Nicholas Gal-Gilett-Zine as He-Man. That's right. In Master of the Universe, it's a silhouetted shot. Mmm, that's right. Is he looking He-Man enough for you? Yeah, man. Yeah, man. You excited for this? Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:57 You excited for this movie, the main villain in this movie is Jared Leto? Ah, stop it. And also in real life, because he's a sex criminal, allegedly. That's right. And everybody knew that for 20 years years. Yeah kept giving him work somehow. What's going on? What is that? I don't know. Good agent? Very good agent. Maybe he's really good in the room. You know you get him in there and he just charms the pants off you. Yeah maybe he's got, I mean he looks like a man who has that lock-in stare kind of. He looks like a man I'd like to see get hit by a bus. Interesting. Yeah. You, now to be clear you don't like to see get hit by a bus. Interesting. Yeah. Now to be clear,
Starting point is 00:30:25 you don't want him to get hit by a bus, but he looks like a man. He looks like a man that I would like to get hit by a bus. Okay, right. But he is going to be in Tron. Yeah. And that's a movie that I'm looking forward to, except that he's in it. So there you go. Anyway, He-Man excited. They're posting teasers for like Moss Man and Lockjaw. Ialer and whatever. I think I saw Tealer. Yeah. I mean, it looks like He-Man. Looks like He-Man for sure. He-Man. He-Man. All right. We're going to do trailers, which means trailers are Hoi the Boat's here. Yep. Oh, really? Yeah. Snuck in and out it seemed. Unbelievable. Oh, that is unacceptable to you as well. Correct.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Interesting. Because normally the trailer boat arrives with a loud honk and you're upset by that. And now they've tried a different approach and now you're mad also. Okay, well I guess this is- I think you're just a hater. I am a hater. Yeah. I would like to see that boat get hit by a bus.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So not- I would like to see. Okay, well alright. Hypothetically. Whatever the thing is, whatever the loophole I said. Yeah. Hypothetically, whatever the loophole I said. First up we've got Naked Gun, full trailer for that, which is a Naked Gun reboot. I didn't know Pamela Anderson was going to be in this. Oh yeah, she's the...
Starting point is 00:31:33 Who played... Anna Nicole Smith played that character? Or was it Priscilla Bresley? What am I thinking of? Both of them were in previous Naked Guns, but I don't know who. You're welcome. Yes, that's right. Cody Rhodes is in it.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Cody Rhodes. Paul Walter House is in it. He's great. Obviously Liam Neeson is Frank Drebben Jr. This is fun. Danny Houston from... The Dad. From 30 Days and 9 Nights. Busta Rhymes is in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Great. Okay. Good gags. I don't know. Look, it gives me... It's a very silly... It gives me Zucka Brothers vibes in a good way. And it's Akiva Schaefer. Yeah, he gets it, I think. This is a lot of fun. I like the bit where he collects a coffee while he's driving down the highway. Yep, that's fun. There's a man's laughter joke, which I thought was good. People are liking that. I've seen this in the theater and people are liking that OJ Simpson joke.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Oh, okay, cool. Where his son is like, nah. Not this one. No. So he directed pop star Never Stop Never Stopping, which is great. He recently did Chippendale Rescue Rangers, which was better than it should have been. Yeah. And he's written on a bunch of stuff, which like including Palm Springs and other things Mason. Did he do that Wimbledon, Andy Samberg short documentary? No idea.
Starting point is 00:32:52 You've made that up, I'm pretty sure. No, it's good. You're imagining challenges, but it had Andy Samberg. No Mason, it's called Seven Days in Howl. It's a sport documentary from 2015. Okay. It's quite funny. Who's directed this? I'm looking at this trailer. No, it's not him. He's pulled this guy's arms off. That's fun. That's good, isn't it? Yeah, it's quite funny. It's who's directed this so I'm looking at this trailer. It's not him He's pulled this guy's arms off. That's fine. That's good. Isn't it? Yeah, it's good. Anyway comedies are back I think it's good to have silly comedies Really do silly comedies that much anymore on as movies I guess agreed you get a silly comedy from like an Auntie Donna for example. They should do a movie Don't you think yeah, let's we should suggest that to them. Yeah, you should just do a movie
Starting point is 00:33:24 Not done that yeah, yeah, is it because we haven't suggested it to them? I think so probably yeah. They're taking that tour around the globe by the way. You should get tickets. A Drem tour yeah good luck. Good luck getting tickets. Yeah good luck idiots. Yeah oh the bit where Pamela Anderson she takes the seat. That's good. Yeah. You might be like that's an old joke but I think it worked. He needs to go to the toilet. Some people it's come come around again. A lot of people didn't see that joke. Oh yeah, uh-huh. It's been 40 years of not seeing that joke.
Starting point is 00:33:49 That's true. It's fresh and new. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'm excited. Cool. Then we've got Spaceballs, which is more of a crawl than anything else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It confirms of the returning cast, it's Mel Brooks, Rick Moranis, Bill Pullman. Rick Moranis, that's a surprise. He hasn't been around since that Ryan Reynolds Mint Mobile commercial he got him for. And he's turned down two Ghostbusters sequels. Good. They would have thrown a lot of money at it for those. I'm sure they would have. Those movies are bad though.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I mean they're all bad, but those movies are bad also. This one's probably the 2016 one. It's most probably the freshest and most invented. What do you think? No, I don't think that yeah Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm right anyways It's also got Bill Pullman and Daphne Zeninga, okay, who plays the princess layer But also return not returning new cat new actors include Josh Gad. Okay. We don't have a John Candy. No, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Kiki Palmer. Lewis Pullman is in this. Oh, because son of Bill Pullman. Son of Bill Pullman. They're gonna do some sort of father-son situation. Or maybe he's in flashbacks. I don't know. I don't know. All the Mel Brooks most recent stuff, apparently, I haven't seen any of it, is like not great. I know he did the big history of everything again or whatever. It was like a TV show. Yeah. But I don't know. He's also 150 years old.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah. 98. Yeah, he's 98. When this comes out, he'll be 100 years old. That's awesome. Yeah. And this was going to be originally called, or the joke was Spaceballs, the question. Search for my money.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Yeah, here we go. Yeah. And for people who don't know, Spaceballs is question. Search for more money. Yeah, here we go. For people who don't know, Spaceballs is a parody of Star Wars that came out... ...84 maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rick Moranis was Dark Helmet. Yep, 87. Bill Pullman was kind of the Han Solo character. Slash Luke Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah, yeah. It was very, you know, it was very... ...yeah, airplane naked gun, kind of fun vibes. Yeah, and the crawl references all the stuff that's happened in between Space balls 1 and now. So including all the MCU stuff, a bunch of Jurassic Park movies, you know, a bunch of failed DCU stuff. God, so much stuff. Poking a bit of fun. Poking a bit of fun is fun.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Think Mel Brooks wrote that or you think somebody else did? A young person. I don't think he would know what any of those things are. Correct. And he shouldn't. Agreed. Alright, should we move it along? Let's move it along. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I'm ready too. Well, let's, we both agree. Let's we both agree. Let's we both agree. This episode is brought to you by Oracle 3 Murder at the Grandview. The latest installment of the hit Oracle series, Oracle 3 Murder at the Grandview. The latest installment of the hit Oracle series, Oracle 3 Murder at the Grandview is available now exclusively on Audible, featuring a chilling solo performance by Joshua Jackson.
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Starting point is 00:37:08 Which is which? Don't answer that question. Don't answer it, anybody. Okay. Yeah, of course there was the movie 28 Weeks Later, which came out in 2007, but a lot of people say that that one... Had Jeremy Renner in it. A lot of people are saying that, and it pales in comparison to the first.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Did you see it? I saw it, yeah. You seen it? You seen this? I think it's okay. I don't remember. First one's incredible. We've done a commentary on it. Second one is... I mean this is a cast 28 weeks later. Oh it's amazing. Robert Carlyle, Rose Byrne, Jeremy Renner, Harold Berenier from Lost. Idris Elba. Idris Elba's in it. Imogen Poots. A lot of these people weren't that famous then though. That's true. You need toba's in it. Imogen Poots. A lot of these people weren't that famous then though. That's true. You need to bear that in mind.
Starting point is 00:37:47 They'll all be on the poster now. Oh yeah. Idris Elba will be on the poster now. They'll say Robert Carlar from the full Monte Disney Plus revival series. That's right. They're so ugly now. Jeremy Renner from the Disney Plus series renovations. And the Jeremy Renner app.
Starting point is 00:38:01 True. Check him out on the Jeremy Renner app. Give him a chance. Give him a chance. Give him a chance. Anyway, we're not here to talk about 28 Weeks Later for two reasons. One, we don't remember it. Two, it's apparently not in continuity.
Starting point is 00:38:13 But. No, it sort of is. Some of the, there's some clips from it in this about 20 years later. Yeah, it's sort of in continuity. Okay. There's like a map that they've released where, at the end of that movie, this is a spoiler,
Starting point is 00:38:25 but the zombies, they get into France and apparently they just nuked Paris, which contained the spray. But in this movie, Europe largely un-nuked. Yeah, for now. So on a budget of $60 million, which is a lot considering they shot this on an iPhone, apparently. They say that, don't they? Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 00:38:43 But also, there's definitely, I've seen a behind the scenes photo and it's not an iPhone, it's iPhones in the matrix. Like there's like 50 iPhones. Or an iPhone in a big box with a huge lens on it. They put a $100,000 lens on it. So yeah. They get a kickback from Apple for that? They must.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah. It's opening pretty strong in the US at about $30 million. We'll see how it goes the world over. But I would say it is critically, it's pretty loved, but audience-wise, it's pretty divisive, which we'll get into. So this will open behind in the US at least, How to Train Your Dragon again with $35 million. But Elio, which is the new Pixar film, is probably going to be the lowest Pixar opening ever at 22 million. Did you know this was coming out? I've seen billboards, but I've not seen a trailer.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And I didn't, I don't know what it's about. It's a, I think based on the billboard, it's a little boy. He's only got one eye and he's, he's hanging out with what looks like a tardigrade, one of those little microscopic creatures that can survive in space. So has he been shrunk down? Oh, I know, I was asking you because I don't know. I don't know either. Let's look it up.
Starting point is 00:39:54 No. No, I'm going to look it up. I think it's a shrinking down situation, but maybe it's not. They also did that with Strange World, sort of recently, which was not great. Elio, an underdog with an active imagination, finds himself inadvertently beamed up to the communiverse. He said he was a boy. Sounds like communism. Agreed. An interplanetary organization with representatives from galaxies far and wide. Mistakenly identified as Earth's ambassador to the rest of the universe, he
Starting point is 00:40:17 starts to form new bonds with eccentric aliens while discovering who he's truly meant to be. Now to me it looked like he was shrunk down. Yeah. And his dad is dead or something. Oh maybe. And he has a cry about it. Maybe. We all have a cry about it. It does say his dad's dead and he has a cry about it. And we have a cry about it as an audience member.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. Anyways, there we go. That's great, that's the movie Elio. Haven't seen it but it looks very promising. What do you think the story was for 28, 23 years later? We're gonna go with 23 years later? Well, it is 23 years later.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I'm not going to lie. You're going to have to look 28 years later in the podcast title and the thumbnail for the... Oh yeah. Yeah, because otherwise nobody will... Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, it won't do that well regardless, but that would make it do even worse. Correct.
Starting point is 00:41:01 That's correct. All right. So this movie starts in a flashback. Yeah. And you know it because the the cameras tilted. Yeah, that's right It looks old. Yeah, it starts out with a flashback to roughly the time of the original movie. There's a little blonde boy Yeah, he's spending time with his little blonde siblings. Yeah, and then the zombies attack. Well the infected attack Well, they call them zombies in this movie one point one point. Yeah The the infected attack and he goes he goes for a run. Yeah attack and he goes for a run.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah. And he goes for a run to the church. Yeah. His local church. And he goes, Dad help. Yeah. He's like, I can't help. I'm too busy going absolutely mad for zombies.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I'm mad for him. I'm loving this. Yeah. But you do your own thing. Judgment, rapture, etc. I love this. Exactly. I'm having a big blood spew.
Starting point is 00:41:42 That's right. Anyway, smash cut to roughly the present day. 23 years later. 23 years later, because that's, yep, good. Good stuff. Because when the first one come out? 2002. Okay, so it's 23 years later.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I know. Okay. But this is set in the future, James. Yeah. Okay. But this is set in what remains. It's also in the British past. God bless them all That is true. God bless the Queen. So this so we smash cut to a little island off the UK
Starting point is 00:42:11 We get a little bit of information that in this continuity a Britain Great Britain. Yep salute It was has been entirely cut off from the rest of the world. Yep The spread of the the rage virus has been stopped. It was stopped. So it's been Britain has been completely quarantined from the rest of the world. The idea is that this is why I saw Danny Boyle talk about this that they're thinking it'll just burn itself out. Yeah. But it hasn't. No. Yeah. It's evolving in ways that you might know or not know. Yeah like how are the zombies surviving? They're eating worms. They're eating worms and other things. But anyway this is set much of this is set in a little island off the
Starting point is 00:42:49 mainland where a group of survivors, they've survived and thrived. They've got a little mechanism for getting on and off the mainland. That's right. So they're in a little village. It's a little bit kind of peasant fishing village. It's a little bit rotary club. It is, isn't it? It's a little bit kind of peasant fishing village. It's a little bit rotary club. It is, isn't it? It's a little bit Britpop. Yeah. Some people with Britpop haircuts because the style hasn't evolved.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I love that kind of, we'll talk about it, but like the setting and the tone and the throwback stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like you said, there is a bridge to the mainland that is only available during low tide and seemingly there is a tradition in this village that is only available during low tide and it's seemingly, there is a tradition in this village that occasionally you go, you gotta go to the mainland,
Starting point is 00:43:31 take the bridge to the mainland and kill some zombies and collect some supplies and et cetera. You do a little daisy like the video game. You do, exactly. And so Aaron Taylor Johnson plays dad. Yep. He's your dad.
Starting point is 00:43:44 He's my dad. And his son is Spike. Yep. And he's not quite old and he's 12 years old. He's not quite old enough to go to the mainland. But he's like, I'm going to do it anyway. I feel pretty good about this. Feel pretty good about this.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Also, I want to get away from my wife. Yeah. Who I hate. Because I hate her because she's got dementia. Because she's sick or something. She's sick and that's boring and annoying. And I'm going to hate that. So I'm going to take my son over there. We're going to get him to kill
Starting point is 00:44:05 some infected. We're going to have a great time. And that's how we get into it, James. That's how it kicks off. So yeah, his son is played by Alfie Williams. So people would have recently seen him in Netflix's incel TV show. Oh, that's the kid. Okay. Can't remember. Adolescent? Yes. Amazing show. Incredible actor, by the way. Was he booked for this before? I don't know about that. He was 13 when he shot this. I don't know specifically. Well this one and he shot this and the next one back to back. Jodie Comer is also in this. She plays the mother.
Starting point is 00:44:37 She's the wife we hate. Yep, the wife we hate. Stop being sick. Just get up. Shake it off. Rafe Fiennes plays and makes an appearance. She wouldn't know how to shake it off because they don't have Taylor Swift. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. She'd have to blow a song to it off. Exactly. Just woohoo. Woohoo. Could she 28 days rap rock group it off? Could she rip it up? Yeah, maybe. I'll just find out when 28 days release that song. That would be great.
Starting point is 00:45:07 So yeah, I understand the divisive nature of this because it's... Came in in 2000. Perfect. She could rip it up. Why can't you just rip it up? I thought this was terrific. I understand why people don't like it because it's... I don't like it because it's... I don't? No, I mean in terms of like, if it doesn't do for zombies what the first one did, because
Starting point is 00:45:31 you can't because there's been so much media in between. So even the new stuff in this we've seen and other stuff in terms of like zombie lore. When was the first Fast Zombie movie? I think it was this. 28 days later. Yeah, because Dawn of the Dead was after this. Right, uh-huh. Yeah, and I just thought it was the story after the initial like half an hour, which is pretty much on par with what you'd expect for maybe a sequel of this or a zombie movie or TV show. It's just bizarre and it takes a really strange direction and it's very British, which I
Starting point is 00:46:03 think also might not resonate with I found a lot of it to be quite contemplative. Yeah. And quite moving in a lot of places. I agree. A few places. Yeah. Yeah. I was really surprised by that. And because the it's interesting because the a lot of the the trailers and the you know, the the marketing for this, it's very like, it's very pumping cult-like. And there's of course, we see in the posters, there's the enormous... It's a poem by Rudyard Kipling. Old Rudyard.
Starting point is 00:46:36 But there's that on the posters, there's the enormous pile of bones. I do like the tagline a lot, which is time didn't heal anything. No, it's quite good. But yeah, it's, you might think that this is kind of going to be a, like a thumping kind of blood in your ears constantly, like everybody's on the run the entire time. And it's just not that, but I enjoyed this a lot. I was happy to be surprised. Same, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:47:02 A lot of this is also, again, Danny Boyle has talked about this, that England at the time this came out and before it was... The original. Yeah, well even just England as a place. There was a lot of looking forward to the future, you know? And this is... Britpop. Britpop.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And since then, probably like 2010s, maybe a bit before and up to now, there isn't that there's that lack of kind of hope for the future. This is pretty Brexit, isn't it? Yeah, well that and I just think like, I don't know, someone's bombing another fucking whatever, you know, not to dismiss any of the things that are happening, but you know, it's grim. And people are still going to work. And so there's a lot of nostalgia and people are, you know, kind of,
Starting point is 00:47:45 you know, I was gonna say cowering in media. That's not the right expression. That's what we're doing. Not everybody is doing that. That's what we're doing. Yeah, but there is this like this media nostalgia. They're finding comfort. Just comfort, exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:54 That's exactly what it is. And that's the kind of world they've built here. It's like this England of old, which I sort of remember growing up. Rotary clubs, et cetera, RSLs if you're Australian. Rock Lions Club. Yeah, there's pictures of the Queen There's this like old-school kite kind of community bingo feel
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah to the something's very wrong in yeah, which we're gonna get because there is another movie on the way Which is 28 years later the bone temple. Oh, yeah goes real wrong. It seems to that one Yeah, but we don't we don't know what's going on there. But there is, there's some very strange imagery. It's not it's not hidden, but it's like quite overt in terms of like, you know, there's they've got these rituals, you know, not not like satanic, not satanic rituals, but just odd rituals, children in odd masks. Yeah. And like we see a lot of very strange coming of age rituals for the children and there's a lot of singing and again, it's got that, it's like a very sinister rotary club, it's very odd. And a series of rules that you survive by that are kind of taught to you from a very early age.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And there's also a lot of this is, at least initially, it's intercut with Henry V from 1944 because the main source of weapons is bows and arrows because they're silent. So a lot of it's intercut with Henry V from 1944, you know, because you know, there's that, you know, because the main source of weapons is bows and arrows because they're silence. So a lot of your life you spent doing that. And there's a series of jobs that you have to do if you live on this island. And they're very kind of gender normative is the way they would have been. It's like, well, if you're a woman, you're the washerwoman or you know what I mean? Or the mum.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Or the mum. The birth giver. Yeah, it's kind of, it's this archaic kind of sense of England or this kind of weird mush together nostalgia. Also a little bit of Britpop, but it's not a good fit or feel. It's sad. It's interesting as well that the world as a whole has completely abandoned England. Yeah, absolutely. There's nothing. And moved forward. I didn't think it occurred to me at the time, but afterwards I'm like, oh, they don't even
Starting point is 00:49:51 get aid packages or they don't air drop food or anything like that. It's just like, whatever. Yeah. Well, it's interesting. This is neither here nor there, I think. It's not a criticism of the movie, but I thought it was interesting to think about if in our real world, several decades ago, an entire country was completely isolated
Starting point is 00:50:12 from the rest of the world, would the rest of the world society evolve the same way it does? Because in this we do, I don't think this is really a spoiler, but we do encounter some outside England sort of media and this sort of stuff. And it's like, would we still have Instagram?
Starting point is 00:50:33 Would there still be like, at one point we see the photo of a girlfriend of somebody who is from the outside world. And it's like, and she's got, she's got a kind of the fillers. She's got an Instagram influencer look. She's got kind of the duck lips and the whatever and I'm like would society still be the same I mean maybe maybe I mean you know I guess I guess people adjust fast and if you're not in England I suppose you're just like yeah whatever yeah exactly who cares right yeah yeah I mean there are countries that are mostly isolated but I guess the difference is that like
Starting point is 00:51:04 England is a huge influence in the Western world. Britpop, for example. Britpop, yeah, and they've just kind of removed. She's been completely removed from society. Are we going to see Noel and Liam Gallagher in this universe? Where are they? I would love to know what they're up to. Because they probably would have left.
Starting point is 00:51:16 They definitely would have left. Because they would have had the... When did... Oasis break up? No, when did... 4? Oh, that's a good point. Maybe they're still touring. When did What's the Story, Morning Glory come up? No, when did... Four? Oh, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Maybe they're still touring. When did What's the Story of Morning Glory come out? That album, because that was the huge one. That's a big one? Yeah. It would have been like 98. Hang on. It was.
Starting point is 00:51:37 95, my goodness. Okay, well they're out of there. They got on their private jet. I mean, The Queen probably didn't make it, so who knows whether they did. I don't know. Yeah, I found the... I love getting a peek into the outside world. And that was really surprising that like, oh, this isn't like Mad Max where we sort
Starting point is 00:51:56 of found out in Furiosa where this is everywhere. This is just in England. And they nuked Paris. And that's everything. Okay, but did they still nuke Paris? I believe so, yeah. I saw a map that was... That's still in continuity. Yeah, I believe nuked Paris and that's okay. But did they still nuke Paris? I believe so. Yeah It was like I saw a map that's still in continuity. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. Okay. Yeah so I think also
Starting point is 00:52:12 Because we've had the walking dead and multiple walking dead spin-offs plus the comic had black summer Which is a lesser-known zombie thing, but that's terrific If it's on Netflix is too serious like the last of us even something like British and Sad and Dead Set, which is, there's a zombie apocalypse while you follow the people in the Big Brother house. Charlie Brooker did that. If you like Black Mirror, it's like that, but a thousand times sadder. It's very good. So I think you can't revolutionize zombies in the way that they did initially.
Starting point is 00:52:43 So I think a lot of the zombie stuff outside of the first 30-40 minutes, I don't think it's not particularly scary. I think they demystify a bit of that. There's a control element you can see the way that they're evolving. But all the new zombie stuff is stuff that we've seen. There's the idea, we find out how they survive because at the end of the first one, it's that they're starving out. And that's the idea that they thought, well, this is gonna burn out because they don't eat, which means they'll die.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Because they're technically not zombies also because they're not dead. They're not dead, they're not undead. They're just normal people who have this virus that prevents them from thinking rationally. And it's called bloody, it's called, James, I'm working up to a bit of satire. Oh, here we go. Maybe it's called bloody, preventing them from thinking rationally and it's called bloody, it's called James. I'm working up to a bit of satire. Oh, maybe it's called bloody preventing them from thinking rationally.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Maybe it's some, maybe it's a G maybe it's a bloody. Oh, you didn't have like, no, I didn't have anything. I'm trying to, uh, cause they don't really have phones. So it's a bloody, bloody, uh, fluoride in the tap water. It's probably fluoride. It's probably like the fluoride in the tap water. It's probably fluoride and chem trials. Yeah, I would say so. No, I don't know. But yeah, no, they're normal humans, which is there some scope for a cure? Yeah. And it seems as if that- What are we talking about? Yeah, we're talking about spoilers. But like, and I guess this is the idea behind a lot of zombie stuff and just really cover it But maybe a little bit, but maybe they're normal. Maybe their brains are still functioning
Starting point is 00:54:09 So underneath I think we should talk about the characters of the movie sure so Aaron Taylor Johnson, of course his dad Yeah, and not the main character. No, but um, yes bike really is the main character Yeah, son is the main character But this guy, you know, he is very keen to get his son on the track to you know Being a zombie hunter kind of thing and at one point he says you can kill them They don't have any minds. They don't have any souls Yeah, you know kind of thing which I think is kind of a really pointed to me this movie I don't know, you know what Danny Boyle has said about her Alex. Go back say themes Mason
Starting point is 00:54:39 I might be saying things but I think maybe They're working towards a more hope in this universe. Yeah. Like maybe that's a- Probably not in the next one, which we'll talk about, but yeah. But I think they may be there, they're veering towards like trying to illustrate that we're in a world of no hope, but maybe there is some hope if we all kind of work together. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah, you might be right. But he is kind of a, initially like, oh, he's quite a, he's an encouraging dad. He's pretty nice, but he's got an under he is a kind of a initially like oh he's quite a he's an encouraging dad he's pretty nice but he's got an undercurrent like a kind of like there is kind of there is you see like there is a rage also within him you know which i guess is a metaphor maybe he's the real zombies maybe the real zombies etc yeah he's from the band the zombies i hope they survived but so yeah he kind of does step aside a certain point and it's a Jodie Comer movie as well with um, with Alfie Williams and they reasons which I guess we'll talk about in spoilers. But that I thought like their relationship was really interesting because his dad clearly
Starting point is 00:55:32 wants him to be a certain way and be this zombie killing hero. Whereas he's not that yeah, and you see that when he's away from his dad that he's actually always quite nurturing and caring and very capable. But he's not his dad or who his dad wants to be. I thought that was really interesting. And then of course you introduced the Ralph Fiennes character who's kind of talked about at the start as kind of this spooky, ethereal, mad scientist. He's a man who remained on the mainland and is therefore, he must be insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah. And who knows what he's up to. And like his introduction and what he's been doing, I just, he was so good. I just thought all that was just really wonderful. Makes you forget he was Voldemort. It does. Or John Steed in Original Avengers. Absolutely. I think, not Original, Original Avengers, the movie rebu, Wamathuma Thurman.
Starting point is 00:56:24 But I think this movie and what I didn't expect is there is kind of, there's levels of terror in it. There's a bridge chase sequence which I think is quite tense, but it's quite contemplative. And it's very moving. I said that earlier. And yeah, no, I'm not saying you didn't. Did you cut it out, James? Did you cut out the bit where I said it was quite moving? And like you said, hopeful as well, something that you said, and I didn't expect that. Like it's... It's nice to be surprised. It's nice to be surprised. I really loved that we're gonna have to do it in spoilers, but I just thought that was so...
Starting point is 00:56:56 It was really beautiful in a way that I did not expect. Yeah. That's right. And there's a bunch of dongs in it. Regular sized dongs. Yeah, if you saw the trailer and you were like, wow, it's weird that all these undead infected people have kept their pants. Yeah. Well, they haven't actually. No, they've got dongs. They've got dongs. Speaking of, we've got an email though. We've got an email with dongs. Let me find it. Don't send us your dongs, please. No, don't do that. That's not what we're doing here. That would actually, that would be rude. No nudes. No nudes, thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Hang on. You know, I only said I thought it was hopeful and moving after you said it. I didn't even think that until you said it. That's exactly right. Is that okay? Okay, this is from Harry. He sent an email, subject line 28 Willys later. Very good.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Hey boys. My missus has just started a new job at a prosthetic company that predominantly makes gender-affirming prosthetics. Hell yeah. But the company also does contracts with films to make prosthetics for actors when they don't want their real personal areas to be shown on film. For 28 years later, I believe the company made over 100 prosthetics. I can't quite remember, but it was a lot.
Starting point is 00:57:56 So I ask if I can now be the official prosthetic Willie correspondent of the podcast, and I will let you know whenever films are going to have prosthetic private parts. Also, huge shout out to Hannah, my girlfriend with a new job. She's so talented and I'm so happy she's in a job she's loving right now with a chance to work on films, which is her dream. That's awesome. Congratulations. Great dong work in this. I agree. So we've talked about this before, but like a lot of dongs you see in movies and TV shows, they are not real. They're prosthetic for various reasons. Like you said, it could be
Starting point is 00:58:24 that people don't want to show their dongs, understandably, but I also think it's a continuity thing. Well, yeah, because you don't know how your dongs going to behave on film. And you're in England, you're running around in the cold. Right, sure. There's going to be some continuity issues there. And you want the dong to be consistent. That's right.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Dongsistency, I believe they call it. They do call it that. In America, they call it wang Dongsistency, I believe they call it. They do call it that. In America they call it wang-sistency. And the Philosopher's Stone. No, the other one. Don't worry about it. It's not a real joke. Should we do some spoilers?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yes. Best movie ever. Loved it. Thought it was great. Yeah, now we've got a sequel coming out in the... Is it two sequels? Two sequels. I guess... are they both filmed?
Starting point is 00:59:03 Do you want... no, one is. Do you want to do spoilers and whatever and then we'll do that the future of the franchise? Yes, so one of the people that turns up is is Eric who's a Swedish NATO officer? He him and his team They shipwrecked so they washed ashore. There's a there's quarantine patrol boats that go back and forth So apparently once you If you if you end up in England, you're stuck there, they won't let you leave. And so there's a lot of these patrol
Starting point is 00:59:31 boats from European nations that go back and forth, making sure nobody's trying to sneak out. So he's the one with an iPhone. Yeah, so his team washes shore and then everybody except him gets killed by infected. And he's like, this sucks, I hate this. Yeah, this is a bad place. And why did you bring me here? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:49 And I think there's a lot of fun back and forth where he's having a conversation with Spike and he's trying to kind of relate to him, but none of these current references, he can't really explain what a delivery driver is. Spike doesn't know what an iPhone-like phone is, a smartphone. There's a lot of references he can't...
Starting point is 01:00:10 He's like, why does your girlfriend look so weird? She actually hates shellfish. I thought that was all great. I mean, he's not around for that long, but yeah. He gets his head. He gets his head torn off, which is a zombie thing. So yeah, there's also in this, there's this zombie hierarchy this zombie hierarchy. There's these kind of mud kind of bigger crawling ones. They eat the worms. Yep, that's right. You got your regular fast zombies and then
Starting point is 01:00:32 you got your alphas with regular sized dogs. That's correct. Pretty standard. I thought regular. I was like, yeah, I think I'm a smaller than usual. I must be cold in England. And it appears that they're having babies. Yeah. And now I think if you probably had a baby in the wild, and there's a moment where they're all kind of milling about in a stream. There's almost this kind of like cave person
Starting point is 01:00:55 kind of intelligence seeping through. Yeah, have they evolved to become more intelligent? It's a little bit unclear, but yeah, clearly they're like, well, humans wash themselves, we'd better wash kind of thing, you know? And they're just sort of, clearly they're like, well, humans wash themselves, we'd better wash. Yeah. You know, and they just sort of, but they don't know how to do it really. No.
Starting point is 01:01:08 They're sort of splashing about. Yeah. And so I think, my feeling is that they are, this infected woman got pregnant while she was infected. Yeah, absolutely. She's not. Probably, I would say probably to that alpha as well. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Yeah. So there's that kind of You know, there's a little bit of that I am legend the idea like they have more intelligence than we think they do like that the kind of the very pointed comment about They have no minds. They have no souls. I think they do have minds on some level
Starting point is 01:01:38 I was gonna say I think Aaron Taylor Johnson. I think this this role suits him a lot better than some other stuff He's done recently Morbius. he's done recently. Morbius. Yeah, he was in Morbius. He was Morbius. Yeah. I mean, he did well. I think so. It was a good movie.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I thought he was really good. And so, yeah, so in this instance, I don't know if this is true all the time, but this zombie, Jodie Comer helps her deliver a baby. And she willingly lets her do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is unusual. Because they have a connection and she gives birth to a normal baby. And she willingly lets her do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is unusual. Because they have a connection and she gives birth to a normal baby.
Starting point is 01:02:08 And Ray Fiennes' character, the doctor, he learns about this and he's like, oh, that's the placenta doing that. Yeah. I mean, it's been examples of that. I know people infected with HIV, just off the top of my head, have had babies who do not have that. You know, like not everything gets passed down directly. Maybe there is an immunity to that baby as well.
Starting point is 01:02:26 We don't know if this is the only one or if it's like this happens all the time. If a baby is born. Maybe they get infected straight away. Or maybe they just get eaten. Yeah. So yeah, it's kind of, it doesn't really answer any of those questions,
Starting point is 01:02:38 but we've seen like zombie babies before. And this idea of an alpha, even Zack Snyder did it in that Las Vegas zombie movie where they might've also been robots or aliens or something. Yeah sure. Remember that one? Sure why not. That was a good one. I agree. Yeah and then of course the the bone temple that they visit which is in all of the posters. Yeah and so the initially we hear this sort of ghost story about this this doctor you know he we... He's collecting the dead. Yeah we you know one time we went to the mainland and we saw he had all these you know stacks of bodies lined up and... He's collecting the dead. Yeah, one time we went to the mainland and we saw he had all these stacks of bodies lined
Starting point is 01:03:07 up and he must have gone mad. And he has. And he has gone mad to some degree, absolutely. But when we finally see him, I'd forgotten Ray Fiennes was going to be in this. But when we see him, he's covered in iodine because the rage virus doesn't like iodine apparently. It would have been nice to know that earlier. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:26 So he looks like he's sort of orange. Yeah. And we learn that no, actually he's trying to give a fitting tribute to all the dead people. Yeah, he's building a monument to those who have lived in parts. Which is insane, obviously. Oh, totally, yeah. He has had to cremate. He's had to, you know, cremate.
Starting point is 01:03:45 He's had to sever the heads of a lot of people and then cremate their bodies and their heads and then sort of sluice all their skin and flesh off their heads. And then mush it into a towel. And mush it into a towel, yeah. But what was really surprising about all of that is, like, first of all, like, he doesn't see it as, like, it's a beautiful work of art to him and a tribute. And it is, and it comes across like that. It's not like, oh, this is an insane person who loves melting bodies down.
Starting point is 01:04:10 At no point did I get the impression that he was going to turn on them and just be like, well, now you're going to be part of the Bone Temple. He's still got that kind of the upper-class British affectation. He's got a background as a... They don't say specifically, maybe as a surgeon or... Yeah, but also he's a doctor from an era where doctors actually had to know things. Yeah, exactly. And he didn't go to somebody and go, I'm having this issue and then you see him just Googling.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Yeah, that's right. But yeah, and there's quite a, again, the most moving part of this, I think, is that he, Spike has taken his mother to see this doctor because he thinks that this doctor can easily cure, so you know, find some modern medicine or what have you. But he's of course, you know, he examines her and realizes that she is just riddled with cancer. Yeah, like incurable cancer. It's gone too far and she's going to pass away.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Even if it was the modern day, there's nothing for that. And so he talks to Spike and he gives him a quite, you know, I do have a quite moving speech about all the types of death there are. And I thought it was very, very nice. And then euthanizes her and puts a skull on top of a thing. I don't think he should do it by shooting her with a dart, though. That felt kind of insensitive. He probably had another way to do it. He probably just pushed her straight into the big burning pit. No, it by shooting her with a dart though, that felt kind of insensitive. He probably had another way to do it. He probably just pushed her straight into the big burning pit.
Starting point is 01:05:27 No, but he shot her with a dart. Oh, did he? I thought he shot Spike because Spike was like tripping out. No. Because you know Spike was like looking around and all the darts were like... No. No? Maybe I misread it.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Maybe. He shoots her twice with a dart. Oh, he didn't shoot Spike as well to calm him down and like... I don't think so. I don't think so. You're probably right. Those were death darts. You shouldn't shoot somebody with a death dart. No, they weren't death darts. I think he had some death darts.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Oh, he definitely had some death darts. Also, he can pacify zombies because he's figured out the method to do that with a dart, not a death dart. Just a regular dart. Hey buddy, you want this? Take five, buddy. I'll light this up for you. I love that.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I thought it was beautiful. I just, yeah. And I just thought it was great. I thought it was great too. Yeah. So, but then of course, so he returns a zombie baby, which is not a zombie baby, to his island and he leaves. He decides he's going to stay on the mainland. This is Spike. This is Spike. Little, little boy. And he's out in the world and then he's chased down by a few zombies. He's pretty good at
Starting point is 01:06:21 bowing arrows at this point. Yeah, he's decided he's going to what's out there. The mainland. Yeah. Find what he truly wants. And he finds something weird and also probably bad. It's Jack O'Connell from Sinners. He's back. He's back. But now he's, it's the little boy from earlier, the little blonde boy. Who I assumed was Aaron Taylor Johnson or just forgot about. I assumed he lost his blondness and became a real man. Happens. But no, it's, the little boy's grown up on the mainland and now he's part of some sort of Power Rangers track suit kung fu gang.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Well, do you know what they are? They're Jimmy Savile apparently. They're Jimmy Savile. Yeah, I thought it was just this kind of early kind of British rave kind of scene. Is it supposed to be his siblings? Do you think? I don't know. I don't know because they're all they were torn apart.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yeah. So I think the idea is that it is his new family. So his name is Jimmy Crystal and he's the head of the Jimmy's. And just for a bit of background, this is vicaricomicalmovie.com. Not too much. No, just some. So Jimmy Savile was a prominent British TV and radio personality, revealed as one of the UK's most prolific sex predators following his death in 2011.
Starting point is 01:07:30 He abused children and adults of both genders using his fame and charity work to gain access to vulnerable individuals. His crimes were committed in schools, hospitals, and even on television. 400 victims were ultimately identified, that we know of, with the youngest being just eight years old. This guy was a fucking monster who died a hero. But these people wouldn't know that. They don't know that.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Exactly. So they would have grown up with Jimmy Savile. But leading into the next movie, which is called The Bone Temple. Yeah. I mean, if these guys had all dressed as Rolf Harris, we wouldn't know. But we don't, we didn't have Jimmy Savile here. And I like, we're not, because I didn't pick up on that at the time, but then afterwards I'm like, why would they put Jimmy Savile, attribute to Jimmy Savile in this? And it's,
Starting point is 01:08:13 it's pretty obvious that these are not going to be good people. So Danny Boyle, he, so Nia DaCosta directed the sequel who did the marbles and also Candyman, which I haven't seen. Also I didn't mind the marbles and she probably didn't really direct it because they cut a bunch of stuff out of it. And Candyman was the Candyman reboot, Force Awakens, which I don't think I could. So the role of Jack O'Connell's character and his family, which is a replacement really for the family he loses at the beginning of the film, is to reintroduce evil into what has become a compassionate environment.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I asked Alex Garland, who wrote this, right at the beginning to tell me what's the nature of each of these films and he said the nature of the first film is about family, the second film is about the nature of evil and you're about to meet a lot more of them when it'll be more appropriate to talk about them in the second film. So the second film it seems like is going to be pretty awful and dark. Interesting. Because there's a lot of Jimmy Salves running around. Right, okay. So there you go. But yeah, like I think in terms of like, this one gives us a little bit of hope,
Starting point is 01:09:09 is do you think the direction this is going? Because you know, initially the first movie was about, you know, the world's ruined and then they nuke Paris, etc. Yes. And then, do you think this is the idea of like, well, that some of these babies are born, you know, not infected. Yeah. Do you think we're going to go maybe in the third movie, the baby is going to be, you know, maybe that an aid team comes in from Europe or somewhere like that and they inspect this baby and they're like, Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Children of men ish. Yeah. Maybe we can find a cure for this. Yeah, maybe. Or do you think this is not a universe where we get a cure? Yeah, it kind of feels more like that. I think if anything it would end on a kind of a hopeful kind of like, I don't know, which is kind of how Children of Man ends.
Starting point is 01:09:51 It's like we took this baby, but I don't know. What do we do with it? I kind of wonder if maybe Danny Boyle and Alex Garland are sort of headed towards like, well maybe we should create a world in which there is hope at the end, there's a cure at the end kind of thing, you know? We can rebuild. We can rebuild, hopefully. Killian Murphy, executive producer on this, not in it.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yeah, so the next one's out in January 2026. That is filmed. What happened to Killian Murphy at the end of the first one? He just lived on a little island. He lived on a little island. Yeah, with Naomi Harris and somebody else, the girl in it. So there's no Killian Murphy in this one. I thought he was gonna pop up.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Apparently he is in the second one. He's gonna play a small role, but he plays a huge role in three. Now three, the story, Alex Garland has mapped out, but he said he hasn't written it yet. So we might not even get that. We might get it as a graphic novel in 10 years. I mean, yeah, I'm reading the 28 days later graphic novel at the moment, which is interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Probably do a book club on it. But yeah, I mean, I hope they finish this. That would be cool. Did Danny Boyle and Alex Garland have some sort of falling out many years ago? I think they just went separate ways. They did separate things. Alex Garland did more directing and yeah. So yeah, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Interesting. Yeah. So Jim will be back. Do you want me to read some reviews from the Planet Broadcasting Great Makes group? Yes. From Lewis Hill. I thought it was the best of the franchise and the second half was actually the best bit because I had no idea where it was going. Jesse Barnes said, While the only trailer I saw for this movie didn't give anything away,
Starting point is 01:11:20 I kind of wish it had. Was not what I expected at all and would have waited for streaming had I known. The plot was pretty asinine but for the last five minutes were the best part. Of the trilogy, definitely the worst movie ever. Whoa, interesting. Deb Anish says, Ashish sorry says, I bloody loved it mate. I really loved the themes throughout the movie. One minor annoyance. I hated the last three minutes. What an insane whiplash after such a great moment. I get that it's the kind the kid from the prologue, but that sucked ruined the moment for me I hate the sequel set up like this. They did this in God Godzilla minus one to
Starting point is 01:11:53 Let let me like let me marinate in the moment. Yeah, I can understand. There is that whiplash It did feel like oh, this is Shaun of the Dead Yeah, it was kind of like The Warriors kind of like. Yeah. But I mean, you know. Clean tracksuits. Very clean tracksuits. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Daryl Finlan says, saw the movie last night and I've not stopped thinking about it. Bloody loved it and I'm itching to see it again. The main cast all gave great performances but Jodie Comer and the main kid were phenomenal. I loved all the additions to the lore. I loved how slow and contemplative and human it was. I didn't expect to cry. My mum survived cancer twice and all that stuff with Spike and his mum at the end really got me just thinking about how I would have been if my mum had pulled through. That sucks. Sorry to hear that. Yeah. Paul Plant says, no spoilers for me. First half was decent.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Second half wasn't very good. on boring and Neil H says Neil NH says I left the cinema half an hour ago loved it but it's not gonna appeal to everybody fans included yeah I saw I've been not looking at the 28 days subreddit and yeah it's very polarizing but I loved it and that's all that matters to me what have I been doing for 10 years for the 28 days subreddit being like where's movies probably listening to rip it up they're probably listening to rip it up and watching're probably listening to Rip It Up and watching the Daryl Dixon Walking Dead spin-off.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Probably. Probably. Daryl Dixon walking around. Walking around all day. Walking around Daryl Dixon walking around all day. Should we leave it at that then? Let's leave it at that. What a great movie.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I think so too. Movies are good again. Next week, what are we gonna do? F1 and maybe Mithreagan. Mithreagan. Yeah, Mithreagan 2. Yeah. Mattoogan.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Mattoogan. Thanks everyone, we'll see you in the next segment. It's actually called What We Reading. That's so true, isn't it? Yep. What We Gonna Read. Yes. I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today? This is a section of the show where I talk about things we've been watching and looking at. So true, isn't it? Yeah. What are we looking at? I'm looking at all sorts of things. You can't stop me. It's free country. I wasn't going to stop you. For now. What are you looking at though? Am I allowed to know? Yes. Name some of the things that you've
Starting point is 01:13:50 been looking at. I watched a couple of episodes of The Waterfront. It was on Netflix. Oh, okay. It looked sort of intriguing. I'm only intrigued- But it's not? No, I thought it was quite good. Okay. I mean, it's, you know, have you seen a drama on Netflix? Yeah, I've seen it a lot. You know how it's often about a struggling family and has to send a drug smuggling? Yeah. It's that again. Wow. But this one's got Melissa Bunoys. She's good at Supergirl. Supergirl. Maria Bella's in that. That's good. Yeah, that's why I was intrigued. I'm like, I'm not going to- Holt McCallany. Yes. One of the most famous that guys. Yeah, he's good. I think it's probably, I've found him pretty compelling.
Starting point is 01:14:21 How many series before they cancel it? Probably one. Okay. Or two. Or three. These generally do quite well. What's the name of the one that has Jason... Schwarzman? No. Ozark? Yeah, Ozark. Yeah. Jason Ozark. Jason Bateman. I never finished that. I didn't watch the last season, but I did like it. It's Breaking Bad, et cetera. Yeah, there's a lot of those. Yeah, cool. Okay. So Worth a Watch maybe, or should I just finish Ozark? I think you should start on this one, so then you have two unfinished series I do like looking at two things and then I was looking at other stuff that I'm like Sometimes when we do this segment, I'm like, what did I watch this week?
Starting point is 01:14:53 I watched a Vanity Fair video where Wes Anderson breaks down all his movies. The one that goes for a really really really long time 50 minutes or something. Dude, I have 50 minutes. Yes, you do. Dude, I've got so much time I've got so much time, but it's never for watching actual things This isn't a real thing, but I thought it was very compelling. Yeah Cool. Was he like, all my movies are filmed like this and that's annoying to people No, that didn't come up at all. Didn't come up? No. Good. It shouldn't. Yeah, I don't think it should either Yeah, he's just a regular guy. He just dresses a little bit odd. Yeah, and he doesn't fly. He takes a boat Doesn't fly. Well, none of us fly Mason. We're just human beings
Starting point is 01:15:24 Yeah, and he doesn't fly he takes a boat doesn't fly. Well, none of us fly Mason. We're just human beings Have you seen because I was looking for stuff that I'm like, what have I what have I watched and I'm so yeah Just go through all the streaming services. Sure. Yeah, I watch on anything this week Have you seen the man who killed Hitler and then Bigfoot? No, what's a movie from it's just come up on Amazon It's from 2019. Mmm. It's got Sam Elliott in it. Okay. The story follows sort of a real movie. Yeah, it's got Sam Elliott Aiden Turner Ron Livingston Caitlin Fitzgerald Larry Miller who I always enjoy seeing I'm gonna maybe I'll watch this Is it any good the story follow? Here's the thing the story follows a legendary American war veteran named Calvin Barr who decades after serving in World War two and assassinating Adolf Hitler must now hunt down the fabled Bigfoot
Starting point is 01:16:04 and assassinating Adolf Hitler must now hunt down the fabled Bigfoot. But here's the thing. It's got a 75% on Rotten Tomatoes. And here's the thing. It's described as atmospheric and gritty and an adventure drama. At no point are they like, this is a comedy. I gotta watch this, right? You have to watch it now. People leave an email in if you've seen it, because I gotta know if this is... This is legit. I like Sam Elliott. I like, you know, what on earth?
Starting point is 01:16:25 That's cool that he killed Hitler. I don't know about the Bigfoot thing. See, it's interesting because you'd see this, this feels like a Big Fish kind of movie. Yeah, okay, yeah. Or it's about a guy who tells a lot of tall tales, but evidently he did kill Hitler. Well, how did this come about?
Starting point is 01:16:37 Is this based on a comic book or something? I'm just looking at the Wikipedia now. What's going on? Doesn't look to be based on anything. Recently I watched a movie, I watched some of a movie called Hundreds of Beavers. Are you familiar with it? Oh yeah, it's the one where they got in the beaver suit, whatever. They're not real
Starting point is 01:16:52 beavers. Correct, yes. It's a sort of a silent film. It's like a live action Looney Tunes kind of thing. People are like, oh you gotta see this. And it's on SBS on demand in Australia. I tried it and I couldn't get through it. That bad? No, I don't think it's bad. I think it's just you need to be in the correct mindset to watch this sort of thing. So I'm going to give it another try at some point.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Well, I'm never going to watch that, but I appreciate you bringing it up. Thanks man. I only know that because you brought it up on this podcast. I watched Super Slash Man, the Christopher Reeve story. Didn't you watch this already? I haven't mentioned it here. But yes, I have watched it, Mason. Interesting. Of course I watched it already. I didn't mentioned it here. But yes, I have watched it, Mason. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Of course I watched it already. I didn't come in here not having watched it. Interesting. I come in here every week not having watched the movie Fountain of Youth, which I'll get to eventually. Yeah, it's going to be a good one. So this is a documentary that chronicles the life of Christopher Reeve and his family. So basically it starts with his accident and it kind of cuts back to his
Starting point is 01:17:46 early acting career, how he got Superman, the highs and lows of that, his family life, the separation he had in like the eighties. And it's also, it's interesting because it paints like, you know, a very positive picture of him as a man, as a person and what he did for the character of Superman and what he did for like the community and the research that he pioneered after his accident. But it's also, it talks about his career decline, the struggles that he had, I'm talking outside of the accident. Typecasting.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Typecasting, but also how he's not a perfect man. He struggled in terms of being a father at times and all of these different things. I just thought it was a pretty, yeah, like it was a pretty nuanced kind of perspective on him as a person. It's interesting, the more you learn about Christopher Reeve, the more you like him, which is often quite rare. Because we hated him, didn't we? We did, it's true. But that's quite rare, I think, especially in terms of like people in Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Yeah, absolutely. You know, the further you scroll down their Wikipedia page, you're like, oh. Yeah, and he was friends with Robin Williams. That's great. That's pretty good. Aren't we all? So yeah, I thought it was really good and really inspiring and very tragic, obviously. And yeah, it's well worth a look.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Does it end with his appearance in The Flash? Oh, she doesn't come up now that I think about it. That would have bummed me out. I would have not liked that. It's just, yeah, it just, just David Zaslav showing up right at the end of being like, well, his legacy is not ended because of course here he is in the... He got a pack out this week.
Starting point is 01:19:08 I don't know if you saw. Oh, for real? For real. Yeah, it's a proper one. It means nothing, but you know, he did. Yeah. Cool. Is that everything we've been reading?
Starting point is 01:19:16 That's everything. Wow, we read all of those things. That's so true, isn't it? Do you know what it's time for now though? It's time for letters. You have that letters theme, right? I've got a letters theme. Which speakers are going to go from?
Starting point is 01:19:24 My phone's been weird lately. It seems to be different every time. Yeah, that's fine. I don't even know how many speakers this phone has, but clearly more than one. I agree. Yeah. The classic one was... It seems louder. That seemed to be emanating from just the screen of the phone. I didn't even know they're here right now, we're gonna do that as... That seemed to be emanating from just the screen of the phone. I didn't even know they could do that. A place that doesn't have a speaker. I don't like this phone that you bought from China probably. It's an Android. Yeah, China.
Starting point is 01:19:52 It's a Google phone, James. Yeah, China made that for you. It's a Google Pixel. Yeah, it's always looking at you and telling you about communism and how it's good. I agree. But I asked it to do that. I said, Google, send me more information about good communism That's what I said
Starting point is 01:20:06 So if you are what to reach the show you can send Mason and gmail to weekly planet pod at gmail.com Or get in the planet broadcasting great mates Facebook group. It's the only good thing on Facebook And there's a thread that goes out there every week and you can leave a letter. What about AI stuff? That's all really good, too. So when it's somebody's birthday, but nobody's wished them a birthday. I wish they had a good birthday. Happy birthday. And God bless you. God bless you. Here's an email from Charlie. Charlie?
Starting point is 01:20:31 Hey mates, Kiwi listening to the podcast since primary school. What? When I was 10 or 11. Don't do that. I'm now 21 in the middle of my fourth year at music school. Stop doing it. Where I'm preparing myself for a career of guaranteed income. Oh, great.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Went and saw Materialist with a date this week. Oh, yeah. And confirmed that the movie sparked a great conversation about dating and gave us a lot to talk about for the rest of the night. There you go. That's right. That's what you want. Have a chat.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Yep. It's good. It's good to have a chat. Yeah. Anyway, just I thank you for this email. I was curious about, I think last week when we talked about Materialist, I'm like, is this a good date? I feel like that movie's just kind of disappeared now. Well a lot of stuff. Yeah
Starting point is 01:21:08 It's been a week hasn't it? That's true. It's been a way. So I'm gonna check the box office on that I guess it's gonna be some counter programming to it, you know Charlie also says He listened to the latest podcast and heard about you talking about m83 the band. I remember he recalled meeting Joseph from about you talking about M83, the band. I remember. He recalled meeting Joseph from M83, the co-composer of Oblivion and Tron Legacy, with Daft Punk. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Mm. His question is, and I don't think we're gonna have an answer for this. I'm ready. I was wondering if you guys had a favorite movie score by an artist or band not known for movie scores. No. No.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah, we can't. How could we ever? No. We don't have the, Nine Inch Nails. Nine Inch Nails obviously. Trent Reznor, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Materialist looks like it's gonna fall short of its box office, etc I'll build a cost unsurprisingly. Well make better movies that people like and broader. Yeah, who's your favorite composer?
Starting point is 01:21:53 Generally, who you who's your favorite? Uh, I well he's doing this immense guy like John Murphy He did the source Grove Sunshine and he also is doing the upcoming Superman. Oh Yeah, who's yours? Um David Holmes who did all the oceans movies. Oh, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, exactly. Et cetera. And I'm sure he loves being reduced to the guy who's like boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
Starting point is 01:22:13 I mean, he did the most iconic boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. I'm stealing this, whatever. Yeah. Because I'm going to do a flip. And he also does like his own albums and stuff like that. Don't care. Vinnie Brent says, what's your take on all the big popcorn bucket madness? Could a bad movie sell enough popcorn buckets to be profitable?
Starting point is 01:22:36 What would a popcorn bucket have to be for you to purchase one? I couldn't. I won't. I don't care about this. It's just taking up space in my house. Well, James, this isn't fun stuff, but I don't like that everything's just... like they're just like, let's churn out some more plastic, you know what I mean? They seem really impractical. I don't think we have enough environment left, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Nah man, we're running out of environment. But you know, if you want one, why not? Get one. Get one? If you can use it later. Yeah. You know? Cause I know when my son and I saw... I do like the Galactus one. Get one? I just, I like the- If you can use it later. Yeah. You know? Cause I know when my son and I saw- I do like the Galactus one. Yeah. When my son and I saw, well there's a new Reed Richards one
Starting point is 01:23:11 that looks like his arm is going around, but it looks like his dick. You seeing that? No, I haven't. I'm going up right now. Just came up in my, you know what? Could be fake, but here we go. I'm gonna show it to you anyway.
Starting point is 01:23:20 So this is the Reed Richards one. Hmm. So it's his arm wrapped around it, but it looks like it might not be his arm. What is his arm wearing a fantastic four costume? Yeah. I mean, his penis or whatever. I mean, probably.
Starting point is 01:23:32 He thinks ahead. He's a genius. You know what it is? It's actually, I'm less mad about it, I think, popcorn buckets than you know when you go to the supermarket and it's like, if you buy, spend $10 or whatever, you got a plastic thing for your kids or whatever. I'm like. They've changed a lot of that. Yeah. Now it's kind if you buy spend $10 or whatever you got a plastic thing for your kids or whatever I'm like. They've changed a lot of that. Now it's kind of recyclable stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:50 And backlash fair enough because I'm always like don't put your customers in a position where they have to buy a thing for their kids that they're going to demand it and then like in six months they're going to throw it away. A lot of time you just get them but they'll just give it to you if you spend an yeah, you know just in a shop Obviously cuz who spends less than ten dollars at the supermarket. We're getting we're getting slaughtered out here Yeah, but um, yeah, I remember those like do you want these Harry Potter? No fuck no God No for so many reasons. My kids don't even like Harry Potter. I'm going to keep it that way. That's going to be a Harry Potter free household.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Um, I don't, I don't know. I think this is a trend that's going to go away soon. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. The kind of some interesting ones went viral, like some accidentally weird ones. Yeah. And then Ryan Reynolds did it with Wolverine. And now I think it's kind of petering out, but proved me wrong.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Oh yeah. There was a Captain America one. That's what I said. It was an upside down Captain America one that's what I said it was an upside down Captain America shield and with a little popcorn back in the middle and my son was like that's cool but I was like we can't actually use it as Captain America shield and he's like yeah good point I don't want that. Right. So you know. Practical yours. Not that I was gonna get it anyway. Yeah. What do you got Mason? What? I'm gonna, you told your son I'm gonna purchase it and then I'm gonna get
Starting point is 01:25:02 a single black coffee. That's right. I'm gonna get him to pour a single black coffee in the drive-thru at McDonald's and then we're gonna go. I'm gonna purchase it and then I'm gonna get a single black coffee. That's right I'm gonna get him to pour a single black coffee in the drive-thru McDonald's and then we're gonna go I'm gonna do it. He's an email from Nick Nick. Hello boys Hello, just wanted to say I love Caravan of Garbage and have watched every episode every week since the series started Whoa, that's even great. Even though I am currently on an 18 consecutive video streak having not seen the movie you're talking about That's dedication. I hope you're proud of me. Let me have a look at what that even looks like. Also quick update. I proposed to my girlfriend and she said yes.
Starting point is 01:25:30 If you don't recall, Mason told me to impress her Australian immigrant parents by saying, hey, I bet you remember going down to the milk bar for a big am and a chico roll and then watching Norman Gunston on the telly. Your advice worked, I guess. And we got engaged when visiting her family in Sydney after travelling all the way from Birmingham, Alabama. Oh my god. Bambalam. He didn't say bambalam. I added the bambalam. Thanks and I will be stopping by soon to collect the goat puppet as collateral for making me sit through all those Michael Crichton videos.
Starting point is 01:25:58 You're welcome. I just did the count back. He has seen the Captain America trilogy but nothing forward. So Dead Ever Electro, all the Punisher movies, Street Fighter, Double Dragon, Uncharted, any of the Bourne movies he hasn't seen. He hasn't seen Kongo, as mentioned. So yeah. Wow. If anything, he owes us. Yeah, get some culture. We're doing favors out here. You're welcome.
Starting point is 01:26:17 We got you married. Yeah. We did that. That's true. Congratulations and thank you for listening. You're very welcome. This is a Mononymous 553 who says, Rumours that Mine Hunters is returning with three movies.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Are you fans? Is this the best show that deserves a return? I loved the show and was devastated when it got cancelled. I would love to see Mine Hunters return. But it's never coming back. Maybe, no, there was a thing this week that it might. That's from Callum. What's his name?
Starting point is 01:26:40 Holden Ford. Holden Montgomery. Okay. Callum Mulvey. No. What's his name? Holt Mc. Holden Montgomery. Okay. Calum Mulvey. No. What's his name? Holt Mc...
Starting point is 01:26:48 Canananene. Yeah, he's in the waterfront. He's busy. Yes. He's busy. Another guy from Frozen is in it. But the main character's name is Holden Ford, right? That's good.
Starting point is 01:26:56 I don't know. I haven't seen Waterfront. No, the main character of Mine Hunter is... Dude, it's been a hundred years. I don't remember who the main character of Mine Hunter is. It's just funny because those are two car names. That is funny, the cars. Yeah, I mean, it was too expensive, but maybe if they bring it out and it's three movies, then it becomes more palatable and people can jump in on it.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I don't know. I would love to see it. That's so true. Yeah. What do you got, Mason? Okay. Here's one, James. I wanted to clear something up. This is from Alonso. A couple of people emailed him about this. Sure. Dear James and Mace, I've been a listener since middle school and now about 10 years later you've said something that resonated with me so much I had to write in.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Finally! Yeah. I completely agree with James on the Coke thing. I like the metallic sort of taste you get with a can and you can't get that from anywhere else. Now here's the thing. Here's the thing James. Here's the twist, I'm ready. I love a glass bottle of the Mexican stuff but it's just not the same as the crisp metal can of soda. So here's the thing, James. In America, Coke is made with high fructose corn syrup
Starting point is 01:27:52 and Mexican Coke in a glass is made with sugar. All Coke in Australia is made with sugar. So I just wanna clear that. I lived in Africa. You know this about me, Mason. I love to travel around. I know, you might shut up about it. But you should shut up. They've got the- You should shut Mason. I love to travel around. I know. You might shut up about it. But you should shut up. You should shut up. I'm going to shut up. Just let me finish this and
Starting point is 01:28:09 I'll shut up. I won't say another word, I promise. You're never here for me again. Compromise. All right, good. They have the tall glass Coke bottles and they use cane sugar. And I don't know what the restrictions are there or how it works, but it's insane. It's the best coke that I've ever had. So if I had to choose a coke to drink, it would be that one. Yeah, right. But you can't get that in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:33 It used to what used to happen in Australia, there was a big trend for American style diners. Yeah. And they would often ship in Mexican coke in the glass bottles. That's right. But if you go to if you go to any of them now, it's just regular coke. Somebody twigged, oh, yeah, we don't need to pay four bucks for a Mexican coke when the regular coke is exactly the same. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:28:51 There you go. Yeah. Anyways, keep up the good work and thanks for introducing me to some of your casual Australian slang. Because of you, I'm the only guy in the United States who's ever said Christ on a bike. If you've got any favorite sayings or terms terms I'd love to add them to my vocabulary. Ah, Yippee-ki-yay motherfucker, that's ours. That's ours. That's a real reservoir dogs. That's one of ours. That's one of ours I think. Absolutely. Every Australian says that. I'm spinning around, that's us.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Well, Kylie Minogue, but that's us. Yeah, that's us. Yeah, everybody rip it up. That's 28 Days. Yeah, that's ours. That's ours, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly, that's probably all the ones you could use. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, great. Mason's ours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. That's probably all the ones you could use. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, great. Mason Terry Springett says, what piece of media were you insufferable about in your respective teenage years? The Matrix.
Starting point is 01:29:33 I was going to say the Matrix. Although, but that was their late teenage years. Yeah, or prior to that. So what was before that? I don't know. I kind of shut up. I didn't tell anybody I liked anything because I didn't want to get beaten up. Yeah, I was never an insufferable guy, I don't think, I say, I say in my hazy memories.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Come on, man, I knew you then. No. We were the worst. Were we? We're like this, but younger, the worst. I don't think that's true. Yeah, maybe. I think.
Starting point is 01:29:55 We met a lot of insufferable people. Yeah, see, that's probably, I think we learned the word. But we weren't. No, exactly, we were normal. Yeah, but I don't know, I think fandom and pop culture, it's kind of different now where it's, you can openly be more of a kind of a nerd about stuff. Not that it wasn't then, but it was, it's a bit different. I think it's more accepting and there's more kind of niche groups and stuff, which is good.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Is that everything? No, I've got a couple more emails. Emails for me? We're rich with emails this week. I wish we were rich with money. We're not. Nah. Can. I wish we were rich with money. We're not. Nah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Can we exchange emails for money? No. Okay. Is there like a can exchange thing, but for emails? If emails put emails in a can machine that gives you emails. Yeah, maybe. Remember that? Remember all those schemes in the early internet where it's like, just read emails
Starting point is 01:30:37 and we'll pay you. You know those? I would love to read emails. Exactly. You do. I do. And I'm getting rich off it. There's some Gru in Sydney.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Gru? Gru. I loved your in despicable me one two three and then I always do and you're like that's great I'm good. I can't do it. Good day boys. Good. I grew I was curious about how you boys and your lovely editors get around copyright strikes and demonetization on YouTube I got a garbage you guys tend to cover pretty well pretty well known and likely heavily protected films in the series and I'm surprised they haven't seen many taken down or made unavailable. What's the secret? The secret is that you can't show a clip for too long because if you do it will get automatically
Starting point is 01:31:15 flagged. We normally don't have a clip longer than seven seconds is generally the rule. Also you're allowed to use them. You're allowed to have longer clips. So even if I'm constantly doing this. I'm constantly in copyright dispute. Yeah. So for people who don't know, when you, you're allowed to show clips of a movie or a TV series in the context of your reviewing it. If we would have just put up clips from a movie, there'd be copyright issues. But what, legally in the United States, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:43 which is a YouTube thing where, where you, what you're supposed to be able to do is you're able to put in clips of something if you're reviewing it, they're technically not allowed to do that. I mean, if you were reviewing a movie that was just out at cinemas, and you had clips from the movie that weren't publicly filmed them, that would be that would be better. But like, under normal circumstances, you're allowed to put in clips as you're a viewer. a lot of media, some media companies don't care and some for whatever reason. Fast and furious people, they really care. They will hit you with a copyright claim and then you have to deal with it and then there's no consequences. Exactly. You've said before, they'll come at you and be like, you use this clip that is publicly available. I did and it's copyright protected. And then what happens is there's a big claim process. And they dispute it.
Starting point is 01:32:27 And then you... So what happens is they claim it, you dispute it, you got to click all the way through. Yeah. Then they will counterclaim and say, we still think this is valid. And then you do a much longer counterclaim back where you have to put in your full address and name and all your details because then it it's because then it's basically you're In this legal bind now where they have to sue you Yeah
Starting point is 01:32:49 And nobody on YouTube has ever been sued and I'm counting on the fact that the first one is not going to be made Because also what we're doing is Mmm is legal. Yeah to do it They just try that what they're trying to do is spook you into it to claim the ad revenue from your video. Something, I can't remember what it was, but we got a copyright claim. Something was coming out and it was like one of those, it was like a Sherlock Holmes or something like that. Some sort of IP that every once in a while brings
Starting point is 01:33:19 something out and then they just go and they claim everything. Absolutely, that happens a lot. And you'll be like, a bunch of YouTube people will be like, oh, I got my video taken down or whatever. And it's the same thing. It's just like they're sort of out for everything. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, it's cool.
Starting point is 01:33:32 I think. Yeah, it's cool. And it's cool that there's no, you can't count as soon. Absolutely no consequences for it. Yeah. So that's fun. It's just a hassle to do. It's not that big a deal.
Starting point is 01:33:41 But yeah, I know a lot of people ask me this, but you don't need to worry about them. The only reason we do them in seven seconds also is because it's less likely to be automatically picked up. Ben and Lawrence, they're all over that though. So yeah, even that still happens. Is that it, Mason? Mason Hickman Oh, hang on. Here's the most recent one.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Copyright claim. Oh, I was just on this. Oh, they also copyright claim the podcast, which is ridiculous because there's no video on that. Yeah, right. And we never play clips from anything. I just Google copy. I just went to copyright claim in the in the in the Gmail. The most recent one was no, this is from 2023 Super Mario Brothers speedrun. Apparently we got claimed for that. Oh, okay. Oh, that was a big sandwich thing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, that doesn't matter because that's not monetized anyway. So currently I have, I'm just having a look here. I have
Starting point is 01:34:30 32 videos in copyright dispute. Okay, right. Yeah. Light of Fast and Furious, the things in there, both of those. That's fun. It does sound like fun. Suicide Squad, the Caravan of Garbage review. This is all really good. Oh yeah, a copyright claim for our podcast, including Ahsoka, Loki Season 2 and The Bee Keeper.
Starting point is 01:34:51 That's great. Which is great because again, no video there. I got a copyright review on my Hercules 2014, Dwayne The Rock Johnson review. Yeah, good luck. You get a lot of money out of that one. Oh yeah, Fast and Furious, that's all in there. That's great. Yeah, a lot of Doctor Who stuff gets claimed.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Yeah. I wish I could remember the... It doesn't matter. Anyway, here's all in there, that's great. Yeah, a lot of Doctor Who stuff gets claimed. Yeah. I wish I could remember the... it doesn't matter. Anyway, here's one more email, James. Sure. It's from Ben. Ben? Hi James and Mace, I recently found your podcast and have been loving all your new and old content.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Well, I recently found your podcast and the same. Nice. Good job, Ben. I had a good chuckle during your review of John Wick Ballerina when, despite repeating the title numerous times and talking about her dancing as part of the plot, you both thought the movie ended with her at a boring opera instead of a boring ballet Oh, yeah This leads me to my question if a John wick style assassin showed up and forced you with a gun to your head to go
Starting point is 01:35:32 To a live entertainment event that you hated. What would you choose had to go to a boring thing that I hated Yep, could I pick something that I liked? No, I would go to a kid's Pantomime. Yep, they're awful. I've been to a bunch of them because they're short. They're like 40 minutes. Okay. What about a parent-teacher interview? That's not a live entertainment event. I mean, I did them, obviously. And sitting down with a teacher, sitting down and doing like 30 of those in a row is excruciating. It's like you're by the end, you don't even
Starting point is 01:36:01 know what you're saying. You just feel like you're going insane. So when I go to them, I'm like, it's fine. I don't need to we don't need to yeah I'm like I probably go with poetry slam. Oh, it'd be in a cafe or something. Yeah coffee or whatever Do those do those ones? Yeah, just some of those. Yeah. Yeah, and also like it would be more thrilling to know that when things kick off Oh Poetry slam gets cancelled. That would be good. Everybody has to run. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely Let's go to one. Let's go to one. And cheer.
Starting point is 01:36:27 Because I think it's good and all expressions of art are good. I agree. Yeah. Art is beautiful. Mm hmm. Sometimes you get 28 years later. Sometimes you get a poetry slam. I agree.
Starting point is 01:36:36 That's right. Is that the show? And that's Reservoir Dogs. It certainly is. It's a real Reservoir Dogs. Folks, that's the whole show. Thank you so much for listening. Somebody emailed in, is this, do I read off a script?
Starting point is 01:36:46 No. No, you read it, you got this. I should have just written it down in a notes app in my phone. Sometimes you do get lost. I do get lost a lot. But you feel like you got it mostly in check. I mostly got it.
Starting point is 01:36:54 While you're doing this, I'm just gonna do some copyright dispute stuff. Okay, terrific. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast, because that is how we get new listeners. Dude, we love it.
Starting point is 01:37:03 And thank you for leaving a five star review of the podcast in your app of choice. If you do so, James will find it, he'll read it out, if he's not doing copyright claims. Nah man, I'm here for this one. Oh yeah. This is your boy Mike Ten who says, "'Please stop talking about Snake Eyes.
Starting point is 01:37:14 "'I'm 548 episodes in, "'and I've heard these two Australians talk about, "'all I've heard them talk about is a hit movie, Snake Eyes. "'I'm beginning to think they'll never talk about "'the blockbuster event starring very normal man "'Dwayne The Rock Johnson, Red Notice. They've been missing out on superb film and equally superior, equally supersticular brand. True.
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Starting point is 01:39:03 If you want a t-shirt, you go to tpublic.com. You search for the Weekly Planet or Weekly Planet posters even better. Dude, that would be the best. And you can get a t-shirt with a fun thing on it. That's right. That's right. Next week, Mithrigan. And, but probably F1 more specifically. And F1. Probably F1 is the priority here.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Yeah, I would say so. Depends how our week goes. You got a pretty hectic shift schedule this week. I got a hectic week, but that's all right, James. I'm going to get this money back for these thing reviews. Nice. One of them's like do you want to trim out the segment of this video that's been copyright claimed? It's like 22 minutes of the video. Yeah cool I'll do that. Because again they can't they don't have to they don't have to prove they just go yeah yeah. Is it some of it robots? A lot of it's robots. You should be able to be in the room with some of these people.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just be like, hey, hello. Can I ask you some questions? Slap. That's them slapping me. Wow. They slapped you. It's embarrassing for you. I know. Why would you want to be in the room with them?
Starting point is 01:39:55 That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I'm telling you that. OK. All right. Bye, everyone. Grab that gem you guys. We'll see you next week. They slapped me.
Starting point is 01:40:01 I know.

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