The Weekly Planet - 583 Superman 2025!

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Big movie alert! Big movie is back! Superman 2025 is here to again reboot the DC Cinematic Universe after over a decade of very mixed results. Plus we talk the cancellation of a black Superman movie for being too woke, Dune 3 gets a new title, the Fantastic Four: First Steps embargo, Avengers: Doomsday third act woes, the Hot Wheels movie finds itself a director and more! Thanks for listening.New bonus let's play video out now and it's the best Superman Game Ever (apparently)! Plus entire back-catalogue of let's play videos, bonus podcasts, movie commentaries, early access and ad-free episodes all available on https://bigsandwich.coPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:36 New Title for Dune Part 305:03 First Reviews for Fantastic 4: First Steps07:18 Avengers: Doomsday's 3rd Act Problems15:31 Hot Wheels Movie Gets Director17:41 Black Superman Movie Cancelled21:55 Red Sonia Trailer23:45 Superman 2025 Movie Review50:10 Superman 2025 Spoiler Segment01:07:53 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:14:54 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Weekly Planet. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always, Austin Powers is back. Hello. Hey, it's Shagadelic to be back, honestly. Why are you back? Well, I just like the vibe.

Did you? Yeah. Of the last week. Yeah. It made me horny. Did it? Yeah. That's not the vibe that we normally go for So I mean anything you brought that to this

Well, I mean, you know, I guess the you know, the mix of Podcasting and my sort of shagadelic. Yeah, you know general vibe. Okay, I think it made me horny The weekly planet podcast makes me horny. Yeah, you can quote that I won't quote. That's a quote from you, obviously. That's right. Me Austin Powers, yes. But if you want to go at any point, that would be great. No, I think I'll stay. Okay, great. I'll stay all podcast. I'll wait. What's that? I'm receiving a call on, I assume I have some sort of watch that's a video screen or something. Yeah, you do. Yeah. Yeah, great. Sam, that guy, Basil Exposition, he's actually called me away to do a sexy mission. And there's a fan bot probably. Oh, and that makes me exceedingly horny.

Does it? I will say that, yes. Well, I guess- That's how they trick me every time. I guess you go to where you could be most horny. Is that the idea? That's correct. And while the weekly planet makes me horny, and you can quote me on that,

I'm actually going to leave on a sexy spy mission. I'm going to get in my Shaguar, which is parked outside. And I'm going to go on that sexy mission. Great. Well, obviously you're welcome back anytime. Thanks. I appreciate that. I'll see you later, Austin Bowers. Goodbye, James. Okay. Nick Mason. Hey, what's up? Did you get a new car? Don't worry about it. It's the whole thing. I don't care to explain it. You don't care to explain a Union Jack painted Jaguar out the front there. Look, Austin Powers gifted me one. All right. Oh, wow. Yeah, he did. Is it a used one? Because it's got an odd sense to it. It is used. Yes. It's very clearly used. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It smells like British people in there.

Yeah, it's like buffed in weird places. You know what I mean? Yeah, really seemed that used. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it's most like British people. Yeah, it's like buffed in weird places You know what I mean? Yeah, really seem that way. Yeah, I Don't like it. But anyways, welcome back because we're talking Superman this week. Aren't we so true, isn't it? It's big movie time big movie alert. It's back So, uh, what's exciting of course the demolition charges have been set in the building. Not again. Because it's a big movie alert. I like it.

I like it. That's podcasting, isn't it? Can you get the guy in to remove the bigger movie alert? Yeah, I've been trying but he's not answering his phone. He probably had a big movie alert on his house. He might have had his own big movie alert. And now he's dead. Yeah, probably.

So now in the lead up to that though, we've got a bunch of news. Love it. We've got, what have we got here Mason? We've got June 3 gets a title. Oh, is it June 3? Yes. Nice. Sort of.

We've got a review date for Fantastic Four First Steps, the embargo when it's going to lift. We're going to talk about Avengers Doomsday third act problems potentially. Oh sure. We're going to talk about the Hot Wheels movie, Finding a Director. Okay. Is it a five year old boy? Are you going to quit together?

Not quite. It's a little bit better than that. I don't know. We'll see. And then now we're going to talk about a cancelled Superman movie. Oh, because it's too woke? Yeah, to quote, yes. Wow.

That's the exact quote. Oh no. Rob Collings who edits this, he does all the time codes. What a wonderful man How does he write it's not his fault this podcast is no it's my fault. I was away now I'm not away and that's just life, you know, it's true isn't it? Yeah, and that's what's going on. Okay Mason go on June 3. Oh, yes. It's officially called dune part 3. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think of that? Okay, good great based on Dune Messiah the book. Why don't they call it Dune Messiah the book then? No, I don't know. The book of the movie.

The book of the movie, yeah. The junior novelization. Of course, Timothy Shalime's returning, Florence Puer's returning, among others. And of course, Jason Momoa will be back as Duncan Idaho. But he died. Yeah, but he comes back as a, they can put people's minds in other bodies in Dune, don't they? That's right. So he'll be there. And they put his mind in his dead body. What?

Yeah. So he's just going to... They're going to drag him around by his feet. He's going to squeak across the castle floor or whatever. What do you think Duncan? Squeak, squeak, squeak, squeak. Excited? Yep.

So this is what he's doing before Bond. Yeah. So this will what he's doing before Bond. Yeah. So this will be filming very soon. I believe it's at the end of next year, I want to say, which makes sense because we're getting Avatar this year. End of year and then next year, Dune part three. That's right. Let me check the release date on that.

Yeah. December 8th, 10th, 2026. Ooh, excited for that. Pretty cool. You excited for Dune? I'm excited for Dune. And then no more Dune. We can leave it there because all the books, they drop off in quality after that.

I have no idea. Or some good. I have no idea. What do the Dune diehards think, you know? That's a great question. Let us know in the comments. Is Dune as good as diehard? Sound off in the comments, but you're wrong.

Diehard's better. What if they said, doesn't matter, but what if they agree with you? Are they still wrong? Yeah. Okay. Mason. Hello. Fantastic Four, First Steps. It's got a review embargo. We're going to break that embargo. We thought it was good.

That's right. We've seen a copy. Yeah. And it was all right. Yeah. A cam version. Yep. Did you think it was straight? That we did enough stretching stuff? Should have done more. Agreed. Yeah. And better. Other than that, it was good. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So the social media embargo lifts July 21st at 10 p.m. Pacific Time U.S. OK, that's a specific time. Agreed. And then the same 9 a.m. Pacific Time on July 22nd for the full review. This is a couple of days before the official release. So this is generally a pretty good sign

that at the very least they are confident in this movie. That's correct. Will it topple Superman as big movie? It won't least they are confident in this movie. That's correct. Will it topple Superman as big movie? It won't topple Jurassic World as big movie. Might though. Is that still doing well? Yeah, it seems to be doing all right. Second week out.

Yeah, but it's obviously got competition with another big movie. Big movie. So it's big movie month. It's a big movie. Big movie. Big movie month. It is. I didn't watch the latest trailer.

There was like an iMac trailer this week and I'm like, I'm done with this. I'm good to... I'm going to see it. Did you see the one where everybody's trying to convince Ben Grimm to say it's clobbering time? You've seen that version. Yeah, and he's flying in and whatever. Yeah, and he's got the beard. Yes.

But there was one last week as well. I didn't see that one. Well, there you go. That's fine. I don't know. It. Yeah, well there you go. That's fine. So yeah, it's, I don't know, it's, it's interesting. I think it's an interesting month for movies and like three movies that have been rebooted or part of a bigger franchise, et cetera. You know what I mean? I do know what you mean. So I don't know how this is going to go. It's a, it's very much up in the air, Mason. What's good? What makes money? If only we could see all times and places at once. Why though? Why would you want to do that? It'd be cool sometimes. Plus I could, you know, I could win some money on the ponies.

Oh yeah, you could. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. Which I disagree with. Yeah. But I feel like if it's also in my distant past, that's totally fine. Absolutely. You could do that. And you could use that money for good. Right? To help ponies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which you wouldn't, but you could. I could. But you wouldn't. I'd burn the stables down before they did any races, but I've already won the

money. You already won the money though. I see all times and places at once. Cool. So you can do it. It's not something you wanted to, you can do it. I can easily do that. Okay, great. Well, if you could just not. Mason, I want you to act surprise for this. Avengers Doomsday, despite Daniel Richmond, apparently is having a third act problem. Problem? Yeah.

Sorry James. Dude, I told you. I couldn't resist. I know. I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. That's typical of you, obviously. Obviously. Marvel Studios.

Daniel Richmond's got a pretty good track record in terms of Scoops. Scoops? Yes, that's right. And Marvel Studios. No, I'll stop now. Marvel Studios. No you won't. It's too easy.

I wish Austin Powers was here. Well, he's not he's dead. What? Yeah He said he was coming back. The mission went really badly. Yeah, did he get too horny or did he just get shot? He got shot while being too horny For being too horny or while being too horny? For being too horny. That's an important distinction. He went to a nation where they don't really approve of people being too horny all the time You know, I don't want to get into the geopolitical ramification But often he'll win someone over by being too horny, but they won't have it.

They machine gunned him in the city square, yes. Damn, I hope he's alright. He went to America, by the way. In case anyone's wondering, if I was leaning into stereotypes, he went to America and he got too horny and they machine gunned him to death. Well, that's what happened to Samantha from Sex of the City. That's why she's got it in the new series. Yeah.

Sorry to break that. That's going to happen later. Yeah. But because I can see all space and time. Oh, okay. So we still could turn up again. I mean, do you want to, I mean, this, this is already coming out late. You could, you know, follow him in your shadow.

That's meant in another episode. I'm not driving that. You could, I mean, you could activate the horny turbo boost on it and get, catch up to him and say, Austin don't go to America you're going to get machine gunned to death for being too horny. Probably takes a weird fuel that I don't want to deal with. Yeah right, exactly. I don't know about that. It's powered by Jaffa cakes.

Oh no. Yeah. But apparently Marvel Studios haven't finalized the movie's third act. That's great. But they are filming it. They are filming it at the moment. It's currently being filmed but they don't know how it's going to end. Apparently they're doing a lot of filming for like The Void, you know, which you saw in Loki and Deadpool and Wolverine.

So you're going to see a lot of big gray fields. But not The Void, the Sentry. No, not that version, I don't think. There's The Void, which is a void. Which you should avoid. You should avoid it. And then there's The Void, the character a void. Which you should avoid. You should avoid it. Yeah. And then there's the void, the character who I think you should also avoid.

Also avoid that. Yeah. Unless you're his therapist or something. Yeah. In which case, lean in. Stop him turning people into shadow people. Yeah. And do you think that's the main tipping point?

Somebody keeps writing for the void and then they realize that they're actually writing for the wrong, the void. Oh, okay. Yeah, potentially. Yeah. Then everybody gets trapped in the void. The man. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I don't know. What act is this? It's the third act. It's an important act. We're literally filming it. How about this? Everybody shows up. Okay. And they punch and stuff. But they'll lose because there has to be a secret wars. Yeah. So if we can make them lose at the end. Yeah. You know, and they go, go oh god I bet Steve Rogers turns up and they're like, yeah Steve Rogers and he's like, I'm a fucking Nazi straight-up. Oh

They're gonna do that. Right? Well, so well we spoke about this off air. We talk and we speculate that's right I saw a tweet and I didn't click through because I'm not interested really Yeah, where it was like the plot detail suggests that I should be saying there's there's a potential spoiler here? Off of Doomsday, yes. Yeah, but people know this. Yeah, yeah. Obviously because Robert Downey Jr. Jump ahead this time, Chris. Robert Downey Jr. has been cast as Dr. Doom.

But for what reason? Well, and because he looks, you know, he looks like his previous character, Tony Stark. Yes. And they were like the, we've seen some of the script of this and in the movie all the characters are confused, they're lured in because they think he looks like Tony Stark. They think he looks like him. His friend. I think he looks like Tony Stark.

Do you think that? I think that too, yeah. I think he looks like him. Yeah. Enough to trust. I'm Star-Lord and you're Spider-Man. What do you think of this void? It's pretty good.

It's pretty good. And he's handsome? They don't know who it is yet. Oh, okay, right. Wow, I can't believe he or she turned up. But anyway, the tweet said something in effect of, the characters are going to be confused by Doctor Doom and he's going to use that to his advantage and he's going to betray them when he reveals he's Doctor Doom.

No doubt. It's like, that would have been nice to learn in the movie. Yeah. It would have been nice to be presented with a character who we the audience think is Tony Stark and then it's revealed he's Doctor Doom. It would have been a riff on the Captain America but he's in Hydra now. Yeah, exactly. But, and that would have been a fun twist because we'd have gone, oh my god it's just

like the thing with the- He changed his mask! He changed his mask and his mind! But now we know. Yeah. And that's great. We're not going to be surprised at all. That's why you do the Captain America thing. Unless this is a double fake out. Yeah, okay. What if it is. We're not going to be surprised at all. And that's why you do the Captain America thing. Unless this is a double fake out.

Yeah. Okay. What if it is a double fake out? I don't think so. No. Do you think it is? No. I mean, why would Robert Downey Jr. be showing up in a little green cape and a little cape

lid and a mask if actually the reveal is going to be that Chris Evans is evil Captain America, which would be good. Yeah. I think they should bring in, bring back Tony Stark, the original Tony Stark, but as like an Iron Man suit with a hologram head. Yeah, me too. They should do that also. Then it's like, well, two Tony Starks.

Just like the- It's freaking fantastic. Just like that AI generated thumbnail for a fake Iron Man 4 trailer. They're still cracking down on all that, aren't they? Whatever. I think so, yeah. That lawsuit seemingly didn't go anywhere. I remember we talked a few weeks about, you know, about how Universal and Disney or something were doing something or something.

They were suing chat GPT and they were suing all these companies. Did they just stop doing that? I don't know. Yeah. Could, I mean, you know, law, you know, the law goes for a while, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to be clear though, I do know.

Okay. Oh yeah. Cause of the, but I don't want to know. I briefly forgot that I remember all time and space. You forgot that you knew everything. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to be clear though, I do know. OK. Oh, yeah. Because of the. But I don't want to know. I briefly forgot that I remember all time and space. You forgot that you knew everything. Yeah. It's a lot, man. I guess it is. Yeah. You don't know. No, I don't.

You only know the present and the past. Yeah, it's true. And to be honest, it's not great. Mason, I just wanted to also say, to be fair, a lot of like Endgame and Infinity War was also done on the fly and these were also I would say probably more minor moments but like that Iron Man endline like that was a very late addition and it seems really obvious in hindsight obviously. But what I would say also is that when they were doing those they weren't in a panic. That's true.

They were spiraling they were like we're at the absolute top of our game. If anything you're in a panic. Yeah yeah we can riff anything here. Oh my god. Everything they would have thought of, they'd be like, yeah, that's actually great. I am, I'm, oh, that's actually perfect. But now they're like, what's gonna work? What's gonna work and what's gonna not work?

A lot of people like... We don't like anything. Can we get any other famous, really famous actors and have them be another guy? And then be revealed to be a different guy and then the same guy? They do love doing that. Oh yeah, they already did that with Chris Evans. He was already another guy. He was another guy and then be revealed to be a different guy and then the same guy. They do love doing that. Oh yeah, they already did that with Chris Evans. He was already another guy. He was another guy.

What if he keeps showing up and he's just a different guy every time? We don't know which guy. What if he's the guy from Free Guy, which I think was also just him. Materialists, we need you to stop Kang. My sink's dirty. Dude, that's not helpful. My roommates suck! See, this guy's left a condom in the ground!

Materials, please. Kang is unravelling all of time and space right now if you can get it together for a moment. I love you but I suck! I can't even pay my rent! I took up a shift on the Avengers so I could pay my rent, but this sucks. God, get materialists out of here. We need His character from Scott Pilgrim. There you go. He'd be good. He's got powers man. He does have powers.

Anyway, we'll find out what happens when that happens. Oh, you already know. I do. Mason. Defending Jacob, we need you to stop Kang. I'm too busy trying to prove my son isn't a murderer. But from a legal standpoint, I think what Kang is doing is, I mean, it's unorthodox, but I don't have any, I believe in the air bud rules. If you know, if you've seen my show, Defending Jacob, and there's actually no rule or law that says Kang can't unravel all the space and time. It's not a zoning issue, so I can't really do anything about it.

I like to think they filmed all of this and then they look back and went, oh shit we said Kang the entire time. We forgot that we switched him out for Doctor Doom. It's going to take $20 million to reshape everybody's mouth with visual effects so they say Doctor Doom because they need to add two more syllables. Using the Kraven the Hunter. Yeah. Mouth changing technology. Yeah, which is really good now by the way.

The Hot Wheels movie has found its director. It's not a five year old boy, it's actually John M Chu, who did Wicked. Wicked, okay. Wicked, because there's two of them in Crazy Rich Asians. This is a pretty good get. They're looking for a Barbie movie thing. Right, okay, yeah, sure. It's inspired by the world's best-selling toy, the high octane action film will bring

the beloved multi-generational Hot Wheels franchise to life, showcasing some of the world's hottest- This is just off the top of the dome. This is an oppressively surrogate. I can see all time and space, and by that I mean I can look at the Mattel website. That's terrific. Showcasing some of the world's hottest and sleekest vehicles. I tried to find a synopsopsis and there isn't one. That is it. Like is it toys? Is it like cars that in the real world, do the cars have

personalities like the movie Cars? Do you drive the cars? I think it's gonna be. Is it gonna be like we're trapped in the world of Hot Wheels, we gotta build a big track. I think it's Minecraft etc. Oh yeah maybe maybe what if I think it might be a kid and he's got a lot of Hot Wheels toys and then he can make him giant like in the movie Red One or Ant-Man or Ant-Man. Yeah Okay, it's been done. But but what fun exactly it's been done. But what fun that's right? That's exactly right. Um, and but it'll also be have a post ironic twist. Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right. But it'll also have a post-ironic twist. Yeah, that's right. God, I can't wait.

Yeah, and then kids are going to bond. Dad's going to be like, no, I'm driving the big version of this Hot Wheels toy. I feel bad I didn't spend any time with you. I remember what being a kid is like. My computer is about to explode. Yeah, it's doing a lot of... I was doing this earlier. It's really...

I'm just going to... It's a real wind tunnel vibe going on. I'm just going to restart it. Okay, terrific. And just work off my phone for a minute. That's great. That's very good. It does need an update, actually. You think that's what this is?

I don't know. I think it needs an exorcism. I think you need an exorcism. Maybe. I made too many fucking group chats, Mason. All right, my computer's calmed down. That's all right. For now. Jeez, Louise. I thought a leaf blower started. computer's calmed down. That's all right. For now.

Jeez Louise, I thought a leaf blower started. I'm not even joking. That was so loud. I hope that came through on the podcast. A lot of the time it doesn't and we just seem insane. Yeah, that's true. You know when you're doing a podcast, you're like, there's a damn bit of noise.

Exactly. That I can hear. But I'm normal. Mason, last bit of news. Oh yes. David Zaslav, the current CEO and head of Warner Brothers Discovery. And the most normal man we know.

It's true. There was news via the Wall Street Journal, and you remember this, but there was a JJ Abrams produced Tah-Nehisi Coates black Superman movie in the works. The full details I think were never completely revealed, but it may have been as an alternate universe Superman where he's... During the civil rights era. Oh, is that the one? That was one of the things that was flabbergasted.

Okay, but there's also one where he's black and he's also the president. There's also a... Is that the Valzod one? I think that's Valzod. Yeah. And Michael B. Jordan might have been him in some of these versions or whatever. But this particular version falls into the category of things that JJ Abrams signed on to make. That's right. And he got the money in advance. He was very canny and he got his contract signed. And he had his lawyers set up a pay or play or

leave contract. And then he's just like, I'm going to leave. I mean, I know I said I wasn't going to, but I mean, come on, look at my track record, guys. What were you. I mean, I knew, I know I said I wasn't going to, but I mean, come on, look at my track record guys. What were you thinking? I mean, oh, that's a fresh new phone you have. I made this up. Well, I, as you know, my phone bricked over the weekend and I have a new phone and I feel good about it. Except the bit where they tried to, there's a deal. It doesn't matter. I don't want to get into it. Just hand me the phone and I'll leave. Just that should be, that should be coming. You go, can I have my phone and they give it to you and then you leave.

They just give you a phone and then you leave. Are you suggesting some sort of government office where they hand you phone? Exactly. And it's just called phone? It's called phone. Yeah. Because I mean, come on guys. Stop.

I don't need options. Just give me phone. Stop dicking around. Just give me regular phone that's fine. I don't care if this saves me money or costs me money or whatever the deal is. Just give me a phone. Yeah. Yeah.

We should all have the same phone. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, apparently this was cancelled because David Zaslav thought it was too woke, which isn't surprising. I mean, I don't think this was ever going to get made, regardless. Also, again, there's not enough details to determine whether it's woke or not.

I mean, the new Superman is woke, so like, what are we talking about here? I don't know, right? I mean presumably it's the black thing, right? Yeah, of course it is, yeah. Yeah. That's right. But to not even, if they were like, listen, he's black and he's the president, and then also, he's always fighting against injustice and blah, I mean that's Superman they get though, isn't it?

Yep. All the things that people say are woke. He's doing all the things and he's got 17 genders and blood. I mean that's Superman they get though again, isn't it? Yep Just all the the woat the things that people say a woke he's doing all the things and he's got 17 genders and whatever I Would understand if David Zaslav. Yeah would be like, oh, there's a lot of woke stuff in here Mm-hmm, but like just to be like yeah, he's black and he's Superman. Yeah I mean because if you took it back to his origin, uh-huh, and you put that, you know origin and you put it in the civil rights era, I think that would be a very interesting movie. That's also the character Icon. Yeah.

Well, that's a milestone character who arrived. So you're saying steal an idea. Well, DC owns milestone. Here's the thing, they sort of own milestone, but they sort of don't. So Icon was a character who, he's an alien, he arrives on Earth during the period of the year of slavery. Yep. And then his his ship alters his appearance. So he looks like the first person he sees who's black and then he experiences all the bad stuff. All the bad stuff. But then he survives through to the modern era because he's got Superman powers, which is very handy. Yeah. And then he decides he's Augustus Freeman the third. He's like his own right right great grandson

Or what have you he's using the Twilight rules. He's using the Twilight if that was a thing Yes, I guess they could they could just do an icon series. Yeah, I think would be good But he's the thing so static is also an milestone character. Yeah, so I think recently I think Jay James gunn was probably I think was asked about you're gonna incorporate static into any of this and he's like the ownership rights are Right up in the air a little bit because I think there was some Creator ownership of the milestone characters people love static didn't static have like a popular cartoon series or something also Or not he did. Yeah static shock was the cartoon. I think I already thinks he's called static shock Yeah, but he's not his name is James static and he was in the final few episodes of Batman Beyond Oh my god, Batman Beyond, that was a good show I reckon. It was. Yeah, it was pretty good. Great. Great. Well

Well, it's over anyway. Don't worry about it. Our dreams are over. Yep. It's time to talk big movie. Is it? Yeah, it was quick We're not gonna talk about Red Sonja. Do you want to talk about it? It's fine. Let's talk about it. Not really Let's talk about the trailer to Red Sonja something we watched just before. So I'm here. Something we watched just before just moments ago. I wish it probably was thought it was fine. I heard it was it looked excruciatingly bad, but it didn't look that bad. But is it going to be good? Probably not. It looks it doesn't look there's nothing in it to me that jumped out as I have to see this. No, even if it is it even going to go to cinemas?

I don't know. I'm just finding out now. I'll be August 15th. to cinemas. I don't know. I'm just finding out now August 15th Start the backup. I barely know it cinematically was the electric the electrically released. There you go Um, so red Sonia in this case is being played by Matilda Lutz who was in the Coralie Farge a movie revenge Okay, which I yeah that was that was the I'd heard that and that is true. I think that's a good choice Mm-hmm, but it does look like it looks better than an uve ball movie you will yeah, but maybe that's just because technology has moved forward like maybe if you've a bowl was still making movies that would look a

little bit more like this just because the Adobe Premiere plugins look better now and do you think it was filmed in New Zealand or Eastern Europe? I would have said Eastern Europe, but you've confirmed. I haven't confirmed anything. Oh okay right. Let me check though. What I would say is I think the real sets look pretty good. Yeah. Like the when they're filming on location that looks pretty good. But nothing jumps out as like wow this is a really exciting thing that I have to see on the big screen. Like here's a she's fighting a big monster but it's just like yeah whatever. Yeah apparently this film some of it was in Greece. So a suburb in Greece. So that's good. Just in the suburbs. Also do you remember for the longest time

Joel Stahl yes. Yes. Brian Singer was going to do this. Oh. But you know. Why didn't he? Because he did all that shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Allegedly but he did. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Allegedly, but he did. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Mason. Yes. Now it's time for big movie. It is time for big movie. Now I think it's the best way to open this talking about Superman 2025 is I'm going to read a bit of the victory lap that David Zaslav, CEO of Warner Brothers Discovery is taking because this is basically his idea. This is his baby. Yeah. You know, he's been working on this since 1938 or whatever. Mm-hmm, that's right. Three years ago, I hired James Gunn and Peter Safran

to reimagine and unify the creative direction of DC under one leadership team by breathing new life and excitement into one of the most iconic storytelling franchises in the world. This weekend, we watched Superman soar as James Gunn's passionate vision came to life on the big screen. I'm wearing a puffy vest. I have strange teeth.

Not too puffy though. That's a bit too puffy. Is it? That's what he's saying. Oh wow. Superman is just the first step. Over the next year alone DC Studios will introduce the films of Supergirl and Clayface in theatres and series lanterns on HBO Max as part of a bold 10 year plan.

The DC vision is clear. The momentum is real. And I couldn't be more excited for what's ahead. He's done it. How did he do it? I don't be more excited for what's ahead. He's done it. How did he do it? I don't know man, but he's good. I'll tell you what, it's amazing that he did do this after gutting Warner Brothers and shelving Batgirl and Cody vs. Acme and deleting shows permanently from streaming like Westworld,

mishandling animation and the SAG After strikes as well, huge redundancies that happened, massive bombs like The Flash Mickey 17. He put 50 million dollars into Alto Nights which was written by one of his friends and he lost... Is that the one with Robert De Niro? Yes. Is he twins in that? Something or two, plays two characters. Okay. And he also lost the NBA's streaming rights which he said was good. He also lost a game of NBA Jam. What? The arcades, yeah. That's an easy game to win, you just do big dunks right all catches on fire exactly. Yeah sucks So anyways, do you think that? his interns or Clearly like he's got he's got this got this to there's two press releases

They've written them simultaneously one if Superman had a good weekend and one if it had a really bad I think he just would have said nothing which is what he normally does. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, or he goes. This is good actually Like when they lost the NBA have said nothing, which is what he normally does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or he goes, this is good actually. Like when they lost the NBA as mentioned. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, that's good, man. It's good you did that. This is good that your basketball was on fire and you dunked on me a bunch of times.

That's actually good. Anyway, Superman has a budget of $225 million, apparently, that is the room out with about $100 million used to promote it. I mean, this was everywhere. You could not escape the promotion for this. I know it's everywhere because people keep asking me in real life whether they should see it or whether it's good. And that's the sign to me that this is like broken through. Yeah, to real people. To real people.

To real people. Yeah, exactly. So it had a pretty big US opening, the biggest ever for a Superman movie when adjusted for inflation, 122 million. It was like estimated at one point it was going to be like 90 or below. Some people then saying 150, which was like a crazy number to say. It also made $95 million internationally, so it's $217 million in total. This is great. And that's just the bloody concession stand. You're not wrong, Mason.

Popcorn and a chocked top and a drink and that million. It's a bargain. Do you think it is? It cost me $96 million getting a parking. That cost you $96 million? Cost me $96 million. Yeah. Yeah. This is the third highest debut of the year behind Lilo and Stitch and Minecraft. It performed ahead of Man of Steel as mentioned because that made $116 million, but that was

also before inflation. But also Man of Steel did not have the word of mouth that this is getting. And we'll see how it holds. Because things can drop off a cliff. We'll see what happens. Will this make a billion dollars? I don't think it will. I don't think it will, but it might.

The era I think of really most things making a billion dollars at the cinema is probably over. I think apparently... Except for Minecraft. Yes. And Avatar. I think the most important thing for Warner Brothers, I think they said, we want it to make $500 million, which would probably break even or a bit below. That'll cover David Zaslav's salary overall for the next 10 years. For his 10 year plan. Yeah. So that's fine. Which is good. But the more

important thing is that it sets up a universe. Like this is the Iron Man 2008 of the DCU. What do you think the story was? Oh, hang on. Come on, mate. Come on, mate. Well, here's the thing. This movie's star. Okay, so I wouldn't say this is a spoiler, but if you've seen the trailer, like a lot of people have said, we're going to do non-spoilers and spoilers. Yeah. A lot of the early reactions to Superman, the, you know, advanced screenings, people

said, okay, well what you've seen in the trailer, that's only the first 30 minutes. And for the most part, that is true-ish. But this movie sort of starts in the middle of a Superman adventure. I think it's probably too early to compare this movie to Black Adam, James, but here we go. Is it too early? I think it's just the right time. It's the perfect time. They should bring back Piers Brosnan. I think so. I think they should bring back Aldous Hodge and Piers Brosnan. I think that would be the best part. And whoever the tall guy was. Mr. Tall? Yeah. Yeah. From the Mr. Men books. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway. He was mostly legs.

That's true. He was. They should have called him Mr. Legs. Yeah. Yeah. They should get Pedro Pascal's character from Materialist to be Mr. Legs. That's a spoiler. That's true. actually it is. Anyway, no spoiler. So you know, I set off the movie Black Adam. It felt to me when I was a kid, I would just pick up a random comic for 50 cents or whatever and I would read it and I wouldn't know where any of these characters had come from. But I'm just like, this is pretty fun for just a bunch of wild characters

just showing up or whatever. This movie felt to me, Superman, felt to me like, this is the final issue of like a particular like maybe a three-issue story yeah right this movie stuff yeah it's like it's built to this right yeah it's built to this so we get a little opening crawl about the origin of super meta humans in this universe and then this movie starts with what we see in the trailer which is Superman crashing down into the Antarctic he's been beaten in a fight you wouldn't even

frickin believe it. Yeah. And he's like, Whoa, this is I hated that I had this is bad for me. I kicked. Yeah, I got kicked and all sorts of stuff. Yeah, at least my dogs come to save me. That's exactly right. And then he gets his crypto shows up and drags into the Fortress of Solitude.

And it turns out that prior to the just just prior to the events of this movie, Superman intervened in an invasion of the nation of Baravia into another nation and he stopped some casualties but now the Baravian defender, the hammer of Baravia, Baravia, Baravia, whatever, he's shown up in Metropolis and he's caused some havoc and he's beat up Superman. Yep. And he's like, what do you think about that? First time Superman's ever lost a fight. Yeah, that's right.

And what's what's freaking going on there? We'll find out. Yeah, that's in the movie. It's in the plot of the movie. And what I enjoyed about it, I look, cards on the table, James. Yeah. Superman cards. Okay.

I thought this movie was very good. I like a lot of good fun. Yeah. I don't think it's perfect. I don't think it movie was very good. I liked it too. A lot of good fun. I don't think it's perfect. No, I don't think it's perfect either, but I think it's... But that being said, me saying, me being mildly critical over the course of this review doesn't mean that I hated it. I liked it a lot.

No, I liked it a lot. Yeah. Again, this is maybe the... This is one of the pure distillations of comic book. Yeah. A comic book character, a full color comic book character with all the crazy stuff that happens in these just out there on the table like straight away. Yes, that is true and a lot of people are saying that but I think it's a very specific type of

comic book. It's like you're Silver Age, it's all-star Superman, it's like Superman Birthright. Yeah. So it's that kind of style. It is also, when you watch this you can tell what comic books James Gunn read as a kid. Oh yeah, absolutely. There's a bit of Justice League International in here. I mean, Maxwell Lord is in this. Yeah, like it's, you know, some sort of... I mean, he likes like, Star-O and weird stuff. Yeah, that's true.

I mean, this Superman is sort of a mix of the Silver Age Superman and the post-crisis Yeah, absolutely a little bit like he's but it is it's also all-star Superman Yeah, this is we recently covered this in our book club and and there's a lot of that. It's just a you know He's a Superman that maybe he can't quite move planets, but he's Yeah, he can do a lot of crazy stuff He's intentionally made that way like he's-powered from other versions that we have seen. Also, if you want to go to BigSandwich.co, which is like our private Patreon service, Mason, we looked at a very good Superman game, and by that I mean one of the okay Superman games.

That's right. Which was fun to look at. But yeah, see, if you look at like Man of Steel, Man of Steel is basically the comic Superman Earth 1, if you've ever read that, and a bunch of other stuff, but like, you know, like Batman Begins is spoken about being super realistic, but it's kind of done in Batman Year 1 style. So when I hear people say like, it's like a comic book. Yeah, but it's like a very specific type of comic book, because comic books are a broad spectrum.

They're a broad church. And everybody who reads them is on the spectrum. You read a broad church comic book? No, I haven't. Is it good? Yeah, it's sad. Sad. It's just sad families.

Yeah. Yeah, this movie is, you know, it's very bright and colorful and they haven't gone, you know, this is a movie again where superheroes have existed for quite a while. They're not, stuff isn't being introduced gradually here. No. Like it's a, it's a, it's a sort of a hyper real universe where mischievous dimensional imps are showing up every day. And, and people are used to it. People are used to superheroes battling above the sky, you know, above the city kind of thing. It's good fun. And what I liked about this movie is again, it starts off with Superman on the back foot.

Yes. A significant portion of this movie is Superman kind of being... Yeah. All of the things he's been doing up to this point have been working. Yeah. But obviously he's being monitored and probed for weaknesses and that all kind of comes to a head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In this movie. Yeah, and not just like physical weaknesses, things that will emotionally break him and

getting the public against him. You're never going to believe who's doing it, it's Lex Luthor. But I thought that was a really interesting way to do it. And also David Corrensweat is incredible. He's a great Superman. I love this characterisation. He's perfect. Would you say it's interesting just before we get into the characters, which I actually do want to talk about them, James? Well, I don't. Okay, great. It's a movie about a man getting cancelled and then his friends backing him up.

And then he gets back on his feet. Do you think that is relatable to James Gunn in any way? No, I don't think so. It's by coincidence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't consider that. Like, every turn against him and he's like, oh, right. Yeah. Yeah, so David Curran's sweat is a great Superman.

I like the suit. He's is a great Superman. I didn't like the suit. He's in, he's in the movie Pearl. I didn't know this. I haven't seen this James Gunn saw him in that and was like, Oh, this guy could be a good Superman. I mean, he's great. It's great. I like the suit. The suit works as well. I think. I know people talk about it's like a little bit loose, but I know I like, I like the look of it and it will evolve over various movies. I like the S on the back. I like the shape. We've talked about this before. That's right. Yeah. But I just think that what, you know, and there And it all evolved over various movies. I like the S on the back. I like the shape. We've talked about this before in the lead up.

But I just think that what, you know, and there were complaints about and Dean Cain came out and was like, Superman is too woken. What did he say? He said he shouldn't have said he was an immigrant and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Also Dean Cain, you're fucking Japanese. Like what are you talking about? I just think that's one of the quotes was, I want to get rid of all the rules in America

because I wanted to be like Somalia, like you said that. There are rules for immigration, Dean Cain, like whatever. It doesn't matter. I just think the idea that a man being good and nice is political is fucking insane. It is. How are we here? I also think if this came out in 2017, this would have been received very differently. I think we're in an era where people were ready to see a nice man trying.

And I know there's a lot of political gray areas and whatever kind of loosely touched upon in this, but he's like, no, this is fuck all the red tape. Like, I know this is right. And you can talk, you know, you can have all the arguments in the world, but like saving a person is not, that's not wrong. Yeah. And being nice.

Remember when that arms dealer showed up in Gormirah in that metal suit and he just killed all those guys? He's like, I'm going to declare war on this country. I think that's good. It's fine and it's allowed. I'm going to shoot those needles through everybody's heads. Exactly. Yeah. Great cast, I think. What I would say is great cast and some people have been sort of set up to exist in subsequent movies who didn't really get a lot of play. We'll talk about those guys in a minute.

But I think, yeah, like you said, David Curran's a really great, he's got the real what the hey vibe that I think Superman should have. There's an earnestness, but also he's not a dummy. Yeah. And also he emotes in a way where he gets frustrated. There's a moment where but also he's not a dummy. Yeah. Like also he emotes in a way where he gets frustrated. There's a moment where Lois Lane interviews him as Superman. That is, that's been released I think. Yeah, a lot of it has. Yeah and I love that moment where she's kind of playing devil's advocate in terms of like this is how people are perceiving your actions. Yeah.

Oh that's the thought I had. So Christopher Reeve. Yes. That's gonna come up eventually. His son's in this by the way. Oh yeah. One look, obviously we love the Christopher Reeve version of Superman. Yeah. But speaking of, you know, he's great at transforming. He was always great at transforming from Clark Kent to Superman, even, you know, in a scene kind of thing. But what I think I was never really satisfied about with the Christopher Reeve movies is that he was always the biggest fish in quite a very small pond kind of thing where he's just kind of like, he's the best guy guy and he can do anything and can't harm him. But what I like about this movie is he is a big-ish fish in a very large pond of weird stuff that is only getting bigger and weirder.

And if Green Lantern shows up and he's like the fourth best Green Lantern, that's still a huge deal. Right, yeah. You know, even though he's a moron. Yeah, but I think David Currenswett did a really good job in that scene where Lois Lane says, oh Clark Kent always interviews Superman, why can't I interview Superman? You're basically answering your own questions. Yeah, and then he sort of transforms in that scene from the Clark Kent she knows, the regular guy to the very nice Superman, very kind of sort of, you know, this angelic character

who could do no wrong and then he kind of has to slip back. Yeah, and then she like picks it apart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's sort of accepting a softball. He's sort of expecting a softball interview and then she turns it around on him. And I like the fact that he kept sort of transforming and trying to hold it together as him, himself, what have you. Rachel Brosnahnan, Great Lovers Line. She's amazing. She's really good in this and she does have stuff to do, which I also appreciate.

There's like a moment where she's very integral in saving Superman from a certain thing. She's very active in this. Them two together, I know they talk about the chemistry reads that they did. It obviously paid off. They work, they work really well together. Nicholas Holt is a great Lex Luthor. I agree. As well. One of the best.

Yeah. Maybe the best? Maybe, yeah. I mean, he's given a lot of just good and interesting Lex Luthor stuff. Yeah, so this Lex Luthor is an international businessman. He's also clearly a super villain. Like he's got the, he's got the super science brain. He's not, you know, to some degree,

he's also like Gene Hackman, Lex Luthor is always about a land deal. I guess ultimately, they had to always bring it back to like the thing that he is super intelligent, but he's also really petty. That's his vulnerability. I thought he was great. You know, he does some really awful stuff in this. There's one very particular thing that he does It's like a hands-on terrible thing. Yeah, and I was really surprised I did that and it just added to because he's doing like kind of not vague but his actions aren't He's not directly doing them. You don't see him physically doing things until he does one particular thing. Yes, it's like oh shit this guy That being said also he's got like a just a team of awful people working for him. I hated those guys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just, he's got this, this team of like, holo shirt, headsets, smarmy little freaks are all on his side and are like there to do mean stuff and facilitate all his awfulness and it's like yeah you've nailed those guys, they are awful. Absolutely. I thought Jimmy Olsen was a lot of fun in this. They went with the all-star Superman, Jimmy Olsen is inexplicably a ladies man. He's inexplicably, yeah he's sort of like, he's a ladies man, he's just irresistible

and he's just competent and he's the coolest guy even though he's just a regular guy kind of thing. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. He has a side story with Miss Tess Macca who's from the original Superman movies and she's really good also. I think she's fun too, yeah. And more to that character that you'd think initially as well. We'll get to her in spoilers as well, I think.

We've got Perry White. That's... Oh, what's his name? Nathan Fillion, that's right. Come on man. Wendell Pierce. Wendell Pierce from The Wire. Yeah. Underused. Yeah. Yeah I think it'll be another thing. There's a moment as well also where a bunch of characters in The Daily Planet have to get into an action sequence and they're like we'll take you and you and we'll take Lois and we'll take Jimmy and we'll take you and we'll take this guy and this guy just in the, and then he doesn't do anything. He doesn't do anything. I don't, which guy, that wasn't the star Steve Lombard character.

No, Steve Lombard is there, but then there's another guy because there's room for one more. And he just gets, he's just in the thing and then he just leaves. He doesn't say anything. I don't remember that. I didn't even notice that. Yeah. We'll see. There you go. Yeah. Yeah Also, look we have to touch on this because if there is a I would say for a movie like this

There is political messaging, right? Specifically Parallels to a genocide happening in Gaza and I know that this also was written after October 7th But there's a lot of obvious stuff like the US funding them and things like that Sorry, not them, the fictional nations that are in this movie. And there's images from that where they're going to kill civilians that look like straight from the 2018 Gaza border protests. I was surprised that it's very obvious. It's not subtle at all. And there's a kind of a private entity in the form of Lex Luthor who is making a lot

of money on this. Yeah. You know. And it could be parallel for a number of conflicts. But it seems like this one. A lot of the general public is taking it as a particular one. Yeah. You know what I think wasn't great though?

Yes. I think the parental stuff is not amazing. Oh, I liked it a lot. I expected a bit more from it. I liked it a lot. I expected a bit more from it. I liked it a lot, I thought. I don't know who the, one of those, is one of those actors from The Walking Dead? Oh, maybe, I don't know.

I thought it was nice, because they're just, it's an interesting take on the Kent's. No, I liked that. They are just really simple. Yeah, I liked that. Like it felt like very like Heartland America and all of that. But I just think emotionally,

I think the Kevin Costner stuff from Man of Steel, I think is better. No, I like this a lot. Look, I wouldn't say it's better than any particular other incarnation, but I like the fact that they were just really simple folk. They weren't kind of- On speakerphone and- And they were very plain speaking. I mean, at one point, Park Kent does have a kind of a, he's got some thoughts to express, but I felt like it didn't feel like, you know, they're the only real people in this universe, I kind of felt like, you know what I mean? They're the most real people in the universe. Yeah.

And I guess that also lends to like where he's from and like the simplicity of the way he sees things. But I think for me, the emotional stuff was like the stuff between Superman and Lois. In particular, there's a second conversation they have and it gets pretty pretty meaningful He just kind of lays it all kind of out To like in a situation where like this might not go very well for you, right? I thought like their relationship I think was like the emotional. I'm a core of this movie Yeah, which I thought worked really well. Um, do I talk about the Justice Gang? Yeah. No, James. I don't. Okay

I thought that was all great. Yes. I mean Hawkeye didn't get enough play But has a pretty a pretty definitive moment in this movie, which we'll talk about in spoilers Which I love and she screams like a bird. She screams like a bird. Guy Gardner is great Cuz he's just fucking awful, but he would show up if you need him I guess and that's the the he's got again, again, he's got that Justice League, International Justice League Europe thing. Yeah. It's got that, the whole vibe of essentially anything he doesn't want to do, he's like

my Greenland valve pit forbids me from doing this. I thought that was fun. And Mr. Terrific, amazing. You'd say Mr. Terrific is amazing? I would say that, yeah. Okay, yeah. I'd say he's fantastic. Okay, well that's a good thing to say, Joe.

So Eddie Gethsegui, who of course was Darwin in X-Men First Class, the one mutant who can't die who immediately dies. Yeah, he's great in this. It's a characterization I never would have... It's a little different from how I see him in the comic books. I feel like in the comic books, he's always just like a flat affect. He's like... Okay, oh, there's a bit of that here where he's like like I don't want to get into the emotions of whatever you're doing

but like what I liked this characterization I think is interesting because he's a guy who's just he's really tired that every he's really tired of everybody not being as smart as he is but he really he really wishes everybody else was as smart as him because that would save a lot of time yeah you know explaining stuff and doing stuff. Also, he's not super-powered, which I liked as well. He's, I guess, Iron Man-esque, sort of. That's not really the right...

Who else are we missing, anybody else? Well, there's Superman robots in this, which I like, straight out of All-Star Superman. Alan Tudyk is just pretty much doing K-2SO, which is fine. There's villains, there's the... What's the super-out villains? Oh, the engineer. The engineer, yeah.

Yeah. Nanobotics, etc. And Ultraman. Ultraman, which we'll get into. Crypto was great. Agreed. I think that's a very canny thing to put in this movie because kids love that kind of shit. Absolutely. Again, I feel like they really should have emphasized crypto in the last couple of trailers. They sort of de-emphasized it.

And now the movie's bombing. And now the movie's bombing. And now the movie's bombing. Because it's woke. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Let's- Minimorpho as well. Oh, yes, of course.

Is in this. That's right. It's Anthony Carrigan. This isn't a spoiler, but in the Hall of Justice, I saw this. These are some characters that appear in the mural. I know. I didn't say- I saw a website that said this. I know.

There's A Flash in there. There's Jay Garrick apparently Who's the original flash? Wildcat super chief shining night silent night guns on it super chief Apache chief the one from super friends That's what it says gunfire atomic night bar fire. Yep Wow Again, I didn't see any of these. Okay, so maybe a. For people who don't know, Gunfire was a guy who got... Gun was fired. Maybe that's why I put him in it. Gunfire was a guy who was bitten by an alien space bug, but he didn't die and he gained

the ability to turn anything to a gun. So he can pick up this package of sandwiches and he can start shooting lasers out of it. That's cool. It was the same plot, it was the same crossover storyline that created Hitman. Oh, okay. The Tommy Monahan version. Yeah, rightahan version. He got x-ray vision and telepathy. Is it like a Midas Touch thing where everything turns into a gun or does he have to consciously do it? No, he has to think about it.

So he's not like, he doesn't shake someone's hand into a gun. Although there is a, you know, speaking of all these old Tommy comic books, there was the DC 1 million crossover set in the future, 85,000 years in the future. And in that future, people can just like, get superpowers if they want them, they can just get these little badges and they can be like, oh, you know, It's probably an app. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can temporarily activate Superman powers or whatever. And Tommy Monaghan

is sent into the future briefly in his issue and he meets gunfire 1 million and he accidentally turns everything into a gun. And at one point he screams, oh my god, I've turned my ass into a hand grenade and then he explodes off screen. So it was not just guns. I guess. Yeah. I guess in the future.

I'm surprised that's a legacy character. Yeah, I know. Atomic Knight, Vibe, Doctor Fate, there you go. Freedom Beast, Black Pirate, Alan Scott, who's first Green Lantern. But he's not the same kind of Valdez on Green Lantern. Oh, he wasn't initially, was he? No. Here we go.

Go on. Okay, So the original the no I said a staff or whatever he had no he did have a green lantern and he had a ring but his His power originally was that a meteor crashed on earth Hmm and there was a metal in it and it got forged into a lantern and the lantern had a Prophecy and it was like three times old flame green blah blah blah and last guy gets powers basically Okay, and the last guy was Alan Scott and he gets the Green Lantern ring

But and then when they rebooted Green Lantern in the 50s, they're like this space cops now Yeah, but what they did and when they did they like but Alan Scott Green Lantern is still here inexplicably and he's got magic Green Lantern powers, but then it turned out that the Alan Scott Green Lantern Lantern was actually created. Samoa or something? No, it was created. Yeah, it was. The Guardians of the Universe.

That was their first attempt to do that. They gathered all the chaotic magic in the universe and they turned into a thing called the Star Heart. And then lost it. And the Star Heart escaped and then it landed on Earth and he made the Green Lantern Ring. So it's just an odd coincidence. Okay, great. So yeah.

But he has the same powers, essentially. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Alan Scott So yeah. But he has the same powers essentially. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Alan Scott, Dolphin and Amethyst. So a lot of these are, yeah, like original legacy characters, which is interesting. Because this originally was going to be Superman legacy, of course. Yeah, that's true. And all the, and many of the characters are legacy characters. Yes, that's right.

So Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, Mr. Terrific is the second Mr. Terrific. There was a Mrs. Terrific? That's correct. Wow, there you go. Notific is the second Mr. Terrific. There was a Mrs. Terrific? That's correct. Wow, there you go. Not anymore though. Oh wow. She died and he was going to kill himself and then the ghost of the original Mr. Terrific showed up and said don't and he's like I won't actually. It sucks in the afterlife.

That's right. Don't come here. Get a cool jacket instead. Yeah. You know what I mean? Get a T-face. That's right. Yeah. All in all best movie ever. I thought it was great and I probably got to see it again

Uh action wise, how do you feel about it? Um, yeah, I liked it I wouldn't say there was anything that was the bloomier way. There's a mr. Terrific action sequences. So here's the thing though It's pretty good. That's the one I was hoping you'd bring up Yeah, because I feel like some of the flying stuff just looked weird Because you've got to come up with a But what I'm gonna say is that I like that sequence and you've got to show that even the characters look kind of like... It was like a Guardians 3 kind of thing.

Oh yeah, Yondu thing. When Yondu kills everybody with his arrow just in a... But it still was pretty cool. I like the fact that he generates the shield to protect Lois Lane and it's like, well I've got to get out the shield and be out there. There's a brawl and a baseball diamond, which I quite liked as well. Yeah. Just seeing Superman be matched and the stuff that he normally does.

You know, he's got a set of moves that have worked for him and now they're not working. That's right, yeah. I thought that was good. Yeah, yeah. And I guess also to briefly talk about the score, I should listen to it. I mean, I love the re-inclusion of the John Williams score, but I think I just need to listen to this more. But yeah, I liked it. I mean, it's the fucking Superman score. You know? So anyway, let's, before we do spoilers,

is this the best movie ever or worst movie ever? I think it's actually the best movie ever. I agree. I think this is, it's a good start or restart, even though the Flash restarted or whatever, but this is the real one. This is the real one. And I, yeah, I think it's obviously resonating with with people or it is for the opening weekend at the very least. So yeah, I mean, they, they did it. They did it.

They did it. They did it. David Zaslav did it. Oh, good on him too. Who knew that, who knew that that vest contains such amazing sparks of creativity? I know right? Who knew, eh? Yeah.

Anyways, big time spoilers. It's time for big spoilers. There's a big glowing ball in the background at one point. You think it's a big deal in the trailer, but it's not. No. It's not a big deal at all. It is described as a, Superman describes it as just one of those dimensional limbs.

So is that Mr. Mixus Pitalik? Or another one. Could be another one, yeah. But it's funny seeing Green Lantern just hitting him with a bat in the background. Yeah. What's the main... My son was like, why doesn't Green Lantern do...

That's not with my son. We went to Melbourne, IMAX. Oh, here he is. And here he is bloody hitting him with the logic. He loved it. Yeah, yeah. He was like, why doesn't the Green Lantern use his fists and hammers and stuff? And I'm like, well, yeah, a lot of people say that, but also that one's an idiot.

Other ones can do more advanced things, but that's just who he is. He's a moron. A reference that I forgot, but I think is relevant is if there was a little bit of Superman versus the elite. Yeah, definitely. Because that initial storyline, and I think there's an animated version as well, that begins with a kaiju that's being stopped by the elite and they do it just by just killing it.

Yeah. Superman's like, I really would prefer that you didn't. And of course in this, just as a distraction, Lex Luthor's goons release onto Metropolis a little tiny little Kaiju creature that very quickly becomes skyscraper sized and he has to kind of take it down. But then the Justice Gang decide to kill it. Yeah. And Mr. Terrific pops some T spheres down at the throat and blows it up. Yeah.

Which is... And that's when we see his X-ray vision briefly. That's right. Yeah. Another part of this movie is that you find out the true origin of Superman coming to Earth and why he was sent by Bradley Cooper. And his wife. And his wife from Westworld.

Oh it is too, yes. What's her name? But yeah and so when Superman arrives on earth he... Angela Sarifian. Great. That's actually good. Oh of course she's one of the the robots. Yes she's one of the robots. One of the robots. Yeah. But when he's sent to earth of course with a message from his parents and the... It says be nice. It says be nice and I've got a second thing to say and then that second part's corrupted yeah and then when Lex

Luther and the engineer and Ultraman break into Superman's fortress of solitude they find the message and the engineer decodes the second part where Bradley Cooper's like actually while you're there yeah get a harem of wives and you can rule and everything yeah that's be pretty sick actually never tell me a life um what is something about that did he ask what a harem was I know I mean I don't he doesn't really know that much about Jor-El as far as like oh he does but like it didn't throw him I know that a lot of people don't like this particular idea of Jor-El but Jor-El is not always good yeah in Smallville

I think in Smallville he's the AI evil, but there's also a real version that isn't as evil. In the Prime Earth version of Jor-El Survived, and he's like kind of a bad or kind of neutral version of the character. So I didn't really have a problem with it, because also like this planet to him is like nothing. It's somewhere on the other side of the galaxy and you could... Yeah, it's just a place where galaxy and you could... Yeah, yeah. It's just a place where his kid can survive.

Yeah, and be safe and have a good time. Yeah. So no, I didn't mind that at all. It's interesting, and of course because at one point one of the characters says to Lex Luther, oh, you've doctored this footage to do whatever, and Lex Luther's like, no, to be clear, I just found this. This is real. And then Mr. Terrific confirms it's real. Maybe there's a third part, but it seems real.

Yeah. I mean, also they can just change it if they want. Yeah. Like in the next movie, they could be like, well, Brainiac did it. Yeah. And Brainiac's technology is far in advance as of Earth, so it looked real, but it actually wasn't. Yeah. You can actually talk to Bradley Cooper. Yeah. If people really hate this, they can change it if they want. I don't think it's a big deal.

I think it's a big deal. But I think it's fine. And I think the message there obviously was- He makes his own- He makes his own choices. And another thing, when the Baravian forces invade Jaranpur, is that the name of the other nation? Yeah, something like that.

I think some people were disappointed- Not a real place. Not a real place. I think some people were disappointed. The ultimate reveal there is that Superman can't make it. He's busy, but he inspired the other guys. Yeah, I like that.

I like that too. There's also, as you talked about earlier, like the Chris Reeve movies, which we love and God bless him. And respect. But it's just him. But it's not just him here. That's right. And again, it's a big deal if Guy Gardner shows up, even though he sucks.

That's right. Yeah. He's inexplicably good at this for some reason. But he would be. He would be good at it. I also really like that Hawkeye... I also really like that Hawker Girl killed the guy, the president. He's like, you won't kill me. You're nice like Superman. She's like, I'm actually terrible. I will kill you. I like that a lot. We killed that monster.. I will kill you. Yeah. I like that a lot. Yeah. We killed that monster. We wouldn't kill you. Yeah. There was a real cynicism to her, which I liked.

Yeah. I agree. Which is, I think it's the version of the character, which is an alien, but also reincarnated. I think they're doing a bit of both, apparently. Great. Because her origin is not confusing enough. Yeah. That's good.

Love it. Put it in there. Cause she's Shayera or Kendra? I don't know. I don't know. And Ultraman, and this was fairly obvious from when he showed up in the fortress open, is a clone of Superman. Cloned from a human hair, which is also what they, not a human hair, a Kryptonian hair, his hair, which is what they did in Superman 4. Which is pretty funny. What I would say is, he should have been more bizarro-ish. Yeah. It was a bit like, okay, it's just like a dumb version of him.

Yeah. Yeah. Who you can program. And also Superman killed him. But nobody seems to care. Which I'm okay with. Because I think there is that thing and obviously we've talked it to death that Superman killing Zod in Man of Steel. I think the difference is here is like, well Superman, he does kill, but it's just about, it's how you frame it. Yeah, that's true. And nobody's talking about how he killed a dumb version of himself. Also, I think he's going to come back. Even though he fell into a black hole? Yeah, he's going to end up on a Bizarro world. I agree.

He'll be Bizarro after that. I think he's going to, I think they'll, if they get this far, I think in a subsequent movie, he might return, you know, he's landed on a planet or, you know, and he's just, he's fashioned a bizarro Superman suit and he can talk now or whatever. All right, let's do it. Yeah, great. So I loved that there were the bots. So there's one of the big, a big plot point was that Lex Luthor has created an unstable parallel pocket dimension.

Like in Peacemaker. Like in Peacemaker, where he's storing all his enemies. Yeah, all his political prisoners and his people he doesn't like. People did mean blog posts about him. And who? He's got a, he's got a, yeah. It doesn't mean he, there's not a parallel, it doesn't mean he's a... He's got a, he's got an army of infinite monkeys on social media.

I fucking loved that. I thought that was, that's the stupidest thing I could have possibly seen in this movie. And I thought it was incredible. It's just that, it just reminded me of that Simpsons joke of Mr. Bird's. Is that something in All Star Superman? Does he have something similar? Probably not. I don't know.

We just read it, but I don't remember to be honest. But yeah, just the idea of the whole hate campaign and everything, that's all fabricated by corporations and whatever to sway public opinion. And I just thought all that was like there were there's a lot of throwback elements, but then they put in like modern day elements because it is it is this world kind of this weird kind of retro but also modern world. There's also apparently like no New York or Chicago or whatever. This is a purely fictional United States and world, even though they have like, I don't

know, Walter Cronkite, because he's mentioned. Some stuff is real. I loved the unraveling of Lex Luthor as well towards the end when you see his plans falling apart and you know the rift is like splitting into the real world and whatever the parallel dimension. And there's a moment where Superman confronts Lex Luthor early on where he gets his dog kidnapped. And Lex Luthor is so calm, just before Superman flips his desk, he just lifts his coffee mug. You see him do it as the desk flies. And he's completely in control, even though Superman's furious.

And then at the end when Superman flies in, he has a very different reaction. He's like, oh shit, this guy's actually very dangerous and I may have taken this too far. And then he gets mauled by a dog and that was fun too. That is true. Yeah. But yeah, seeing like Lex Luthor break, I loved. Yeah. Nicholas Holt's very good. Yeah. Yeah.

He kills that man. He kills that poor man. Oh yeah, he does. He shoots a guy. Yeah. Yeah, the falafel vendor. Yeah. Very sad. No good. Bad news. Again, but again, I think that's probably very effective storytelling in the sense that I was hoping that that nice man would live. Or that Lex Luthor would be called away before the final Russian roulette gun went off, but it didn't.

That really indicates that he's a bad guy. But I also like at the the the the Daily Planet headline. Mm-hmm. I was again. I was hoping from you know, I was like they can't leave this. It'll be Superman at the funeral be something like that. Yeah, but it was Clark Kent did his headline story and it wasn't about Superman. It was about this guy. Yeah, who was a nice guy. Absolutely, you know, help Superman. I thought that was nice. Yeah, that was nice. God good stuff.

Mm-hmm. I did like this movie. I know you said I didn't, but I do actually. That's true. I also like it, despite all the bad things I've said about it. Also, Supergirl's in this. And she's drunk, which is... I liked this a lot. I think I did. It also leads directly into Woman of Tomorrow. If you read Woman of Tomorrow, it's exactly how this starts.

In a space bar where she can, you know, under a red sun where she can get drunk. Yeah. I that being said, I kind of feel like if this movie did have a floor, how this starts in a space bar where she can, you know, under a red sun where she can get drunk. Yeah. That being said, I kind of feel like if this movie did have a flaw, I think sometimes things got a little bit over explained. Yeah. Like it didn't need Superman to be like, well, she went to a planet with a red sun so she could get drunk and blah, blah, blah.

It's fine. She's drunk and then you can figure it out. Just say she's drunk on space liquor. It's fine. Yeah, absolutely. Some people have pointed at this so Millie Alcock who's yeah he's super girl there's a she was at the Golden Globes and she was up for House of the Dragon one or something so she's on stage and she's really drunk and I think that scene was

based on that. She doesn't say anything she doesn't but she's clearly like you could I'm sure you can find the clip on Twitter or whatever, but she's like, what a nice time and I am off my head right now. And Australian. He is Australian, so that's tradition for us. Costume's good too. I agree, yeah. It's very similar, obviously.

Okay, here's one thing I'll say and I'll probably explain it in further movies. She knows him as a baby. If you don't know the origin of Supergirl, sometimes she's a weird Matrix character that can morph like a weird goo. Don't worry about that. That's not this version. That's the version that they did in the 80s because they were like, they can't be anymore. There can only be one Kryptonian in the universe. And then they're like, oh, that's a bit annoying, actually. How can we just have another one? And then they make sleuthican data. Yeah. And then she can be goo. Yeah. No, this is the Kara Zor-El version who was sent to Earth also at a similar time to Clark

Camp. It got caught in some kind of time rift. So by the time she arrived, Superman is a grown man and she's still a teenager. Yes, that's right. And she's a bit more cynical also because she remembers her planet as it exploded and everybody from there. But I guess she would also know his parents. Oh, yeah

So I thought also I was like, well, how are you gonna square that because that they suck? Yeah Yeah, maybe she just doesn't want to say it. Yeah, maybe yeah I mean, but maybe that's it because also, you know, I've seen people be critical Oh, this cat was this character drunk why she irresponsible whatever it's because she lost everything Yeah, like he did but she remembers it like it when you want to know life when you read Supergirl Women of Samara, you'll get it. But also maybe she's like, well, I got one friend here. I got one guy from my previous life. It's my cousin.

I don't want to tell him that his parents sucked. Yep, absolutely. Yeah. He'd be like, well, I don't want to talk to you anymore. So she's kind of, you know, she's, he's the only one she can really relate to on that level. So she's just like, I'll say she called him a bitch. Yeah, that's fun. And also she doesn't want to really stay on earth because like she's a space person. So she's a spurs and a spurs. And so, you know, while he does earth based stuff,

she's like, I'm going to go do earth based stuff. I'm going to do stuff with a sword in space. I'm going to do Perth based stuff. I'm going to go to Perth. Yeah. There's also some summer Nats is on. I don't know. Is that in the winter? Yeah. Is it? Yeah. Um, there's post credits as well, but it's, it's crypto and Superman on the moon and then Superman being, being a bit rude by accident. Yeah. That's good. I don't mean anything, but they're just a bit of fun. They're a bit of fun. I think James Gunn, I think he, everything, I don't remember the same thing about post credits, I can't remember, but everything that they could lead to a sequel or a spin-off or whatever is in the actual movie.

Yes, absolutely. Which I think works. I think the idea of putting Supergirl in this was a very smart play for what comes next because that's going to be the next DC movie. That would be the post credits I would think. Yeah, totally. In a slightly different movie. But again, put it in the front and it's nice.

I'm looking forward to that so much. Yeah, me too. I think that could be terrific. And. Terrific. Well, speaking of, James Gunn I think said in an interview, there is potential there for a Mr. Terrific series and a Jimmy Olsen series. I would like to see both of those. People are like, what would be in a Jimmy Olsen series? I don't know, more insane stuff than this, honestly. Yeah. Because that's his whole vibe. Absolutely. Because he just gets into stuff way over his head all the time and he gets turned into a turtle man. Yeah, I was saying.

So yeah, so he's a ladies man also just to take back. He gets information about Lex Luthor because he was in a relationship with Miss Testmucker and so she sends him a bunch of stuff and he thinks it's just a bunch of selfies but she's been collecting data and information on Lex Luthor the entire time. So she's not as stupid as people think. It's in the, it's even in a character poster where she's taking the selfie. It's great. And I think also that could lead to the evolution of their relationship where he could realize

that oh no, she's like there's more to this person than I initially gave her credit for if they wanted to go that way. Also apparently the next Superman appearance won't be in a straight up sequel. So maybe it's in a Black Adam sequel, maybe he's in Supergirl, maybe it's in a Holy Trinity movie or maybe it's in Batman V Superman Dawn of Justice part two. Maybe it's in The Batman. Maybe it's in The Batman part two.

Maybe Batman's like, I can't crack this case. I can't crack this long Halloween style case and Superman just flies in and is like, I can see through that wall. He's there. He's right there. Yeah, I'll just laser through the wall. You can arrest him. I'm happy to do it for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he's trying to physically attack you. It's all right He's right there. Yeah, I'll just lazer through the wall. You can arrest him. I'm not going to do it for you. Yeah. I was trying to physically attack you. It's all right. I'm invincible. He's just a man. This guy was this all at all. Would you say this is the movie like the Superman movie that you're of my you're happy with it. I'm very happy with it. I am. You know, I'm not sure the Superman of my dream. My

movie of my dreams could ever exist. But I think this worked, man. Also it was pretty short, but there's a lot going on. Which might be to its detriment also. If this movie has its downfall, there is so much stuff in it. It felt a lot longer than what it was, but not in a bad way. It just moved. Maybe it could have done some with some more quiet, more contemplative moments.

Or maybe just a big lizard shows up and they punch it. Hell yeah. Yeah. And he does that weird flying thing where he's all googly-eyed. That's right. Yeah. Good. Good stuff.

Got some reviews here from people from the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group. Oh yes. Including Michael Ramos who says, as a lifelong Superman fan, this is the movie I've waited my entire life for. No other movie has captured the pathos, high concept sci-fi silliness and super action that you find in your average Superman comic. This movie is a love letter to the character. The likes of which-

It's a love letter to me. Oh, I don't think you will mention. The likes of which I haven't seen since I read All-Star Superman years ago. David Wiltshire says I have to say I didn't like it It felt overly long drawn out and left me wondering where all the hype around James Gunn comes from Guardians was good But I'd rank him as a less depressing Zack Snyder as far as quality as output quality worst movie ever bordering on just a movie I wanted to like it to Jurassic birth was better than this and that was only okay just okay due to dinosaurs First of all, I don't think it was a man. Yeah, this is this is his opinion and not yours That's right. People are entitled to their bad opinions as we know Nicole

Lee said love this movie walked away from the movie feeling like it was a 9 out of 10 because of the pure positive vibes Then after some thought on a few of us floors downgraded a bit to 8 out of 10. Christopher Beaumont says, it is good. Is it better than Superman 978? I'm not sure. Is it better than Captain America the Winter Soldier or Guardians of the Galaxy? Frankly, no. I don't think it is. I kind of want to sit down and rank all the MCU movies and figure out where I would slot this. It is certainly better than most everything DC churned out in the last decade. Nick Thompson said, I liked it but far too much stuff in it. They stuffed the bugle with character.le, the daily plan with characters who barely do anything but a significant enough... Opinion disregard.

...to be on the ship at the end. They have a whole super team around then add another character then introduce their founder. It's too much really. Otherwise very good. And Joel Shoemaker says, man that was fun. Joel Shoemaker said that was fun. Yes, from beyond the grave. Wow, good for fun. Joel Shoemaker said that was fun. Yes, from the Beyond the Grave. Wow, good for him. Um, yeah, apparently also this isn't going to be, and we've talked about this before, this isn't the tone of the DCU. Every movie and TV show is going to have a very unique tone.

And so don't expect the next thing. Lanterns or Supergirl or whatever. I'm never going to expect anything. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. All right, Mason, let's move it along. All right. To what we're reading. What we're going to Read. Hell yeah. I'm doing the thing.

What are we reading today? This is a great segment of the show. It's a great segment of the show. People love it, they listen to it. That's right. It's called What We Reading, What We Gonna Read, where we talk about things that we've been watching or reading or listening to. That's right. It's called What We Reading, What We Gonna Read, where we talk about things that we've been watching or reading or listening to. That's true. Or something we potentially might also do. That's correct, that's also correct. What do you got? I mean, one day we'll get to Fountain of Youth.

You haven't snuck around behind my back and watched Fountain of Youth, have you? I would never. I'm gonna hire a cinema just for me and you. That's great. I'm gonna get all the chairs torn out except for two. Okay. And we can watch Fountain of Youth.

Fountain of Youth. Can the chairs be very far apart? No. Can one be front very far apart? No. Can one be front left and one be back right? So we both have a really bad experience? I mean, you don't need to do that to have a bad experience in Fountain of Youth. You don't know that.

You don't know that. Do you want a next week Fountain of Youth? We don't have anything lined up. We don't. No, that's true actually, yeah. I mean, I don't want this to become like the snake eyes thing, which is real. Yeah, we just didn't have time this week. We don't want this to become like the snake eyes thing, which is real Yeah, we just didn't have time. We don't have time but fan of youth. Yeah, maybe we'll

Okay, maybe But why don't we do a really popular episode and then a really unpopular episode? I think that's good. That'd be terrific Yeah. Anyway, what do you mean reading? Oh, uh, a podcast wise now, you know, I'm a big fan of the podcast lawman I do you have friends with them or something of the podcast Lawmen. I do. You have friends with them or something. That's exactly right. James Shackshart and Alastair Beckett King. They talk about supernatural mysteries from Days of Law and so on and so forth. I've actually been on it a couple of times, but it's a podcast I enjoy. But Alastair has another podcast called Eleanor and Alastair Read That. Yeah. It's him and another comedian,

Eleanor Morton and they read British classics and they have a bit of a fun and a bit of a riff. Sounds like Dave Warnock did it. It does doesn't it but it's the difference is they've both read the book. And Dave Warnock isn't in that one. No that's true. Also a lot of the books I would say are like it's one a month and I would say some of them are like like small like they're a lot of kids but like they'll be I read the famous five. They read Treasure Island the Hobbits. They reach are the witches Mmm, which is a secret garden. So some of these I've read and some of I haven't Is that what's that? Did you say something about a secret garden? I didn't say anything about say anything about a sick

Okay, fair enough. It's a secret. Oh, do you get it? No, that's a good fun podcast I think I think it's one episode a month. Okay. Well, yeah, that's because it's a book club, right? You can't be doing one away. No, that's true, actually. Yeah, that's absolutely true. And also, I watched a movie called The Last Showgirl.

I mentioned this previously because for... Well, not previously, in the future. That is true. In the future, we're covering the movie Barb Wire starring Pamela Anderson or Pamela Anderson Lee at the time. It's perfect timing because it's going to come out the same week as Fantastic Four first steps great great synergy there terrific stuff We could have saved a fantastic for movie, but we didn't we did them all already. That's exactly what you think I didn't think of that. I think you didn't think I didn't think of that's true. Yeah, but this is a movie from last year

And it's a it's a it's a sort of a poignant, a poignant movie. It's think it's delightful. It's a she she plays Shelley, who's a woman who was a show like I wanted to show exactly like a Las Vegas showgirl. And then the whole thing is shut down because you know, it's the last days that kind of stuff. And she goes on a journey to reconnect with her estranged daughter. And it's got it's got her and it's got, uh, Jamie Lee Curtis, and it's got Brenda Song. David Batiste. It's got Dave Batiste with a, like a Sam Elliott head of fake hair.

Hell yeah. Looks incredible. Uh, it's got Kiernan Shipka who is Sabrina, the new Sabrina teenage witch, Sabrina, she's in it. And it's got a Billy Lord who is Elvis's granddaughter. Oh, okay. Right. Okay.

Yep. Yep. That's who that is. Right. Yeah, sure. But anyway, I thought it was a delightful movie. Look at Dave Bat okay, right. Okay. That's who that is, right? Yeah, sure. But anyway, I thought it was a delightful movie. Look at Dave Bautista with hair.

Right? What the frigging hell's going on here? Who okayed this? Pretty good wig though. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It's worth checking out.

Absolutely. Oh, and I've also just learned, because it's just come out, I am on this week's episode of Who Knew It with Matt Stewart. Who ended up knowing it? I knew it. I crushed it. I crushed it. I think I did really well. Well, you played it enough, haven't you?

You think you'd be good at this point. I played it a couple of times, all right? Couple of times, more like every day. I do. It's a podcast, it's a game show about funny words and things and definitions and such. Yeah, that's right. But I was on with delightful comedians,

Sarenjaya Maner and Jen Fricker. Great sliner. Who Skyped in from Sydney. Whoa. It was a fun time. Great. Fricker great slide up didn't from Sydney. Whoa It was a fun time great. Yeah, well, I didn't do any of that. Okay. What did you do? I think watched predator killer of killers. Oh, yes, which is the Dan Trachtenberg directed Yeah, which is basically it's an anthology story Covering a Viking Raider a ninja in feudal Japan and a world war two pilot They're killing predators,

but they're killing separate predators, and you might be like, well, three separate stories. And three different time periods. I bet these people never meet. Sounds unconnected. Yeah, and it is unconnected. Wow. But maybe it isn't.

Wow. I liked it. It's mostly just action for the entirety, so it doesn't have the beats of like a Predator movie or Prey or whatever. It does have the beats of like The Last Showgirl, a poignant story about reconnecting with your estranged daughter. That is correct. It's a lot like that. Wow. And it also has a tease towards Amber Midthunders' character from Prey.

Oh. So, you know, that's what's happening and whatever. It expands the lore of Predator. You see like there's a Colosseum kind of event back on the... On the homeworld. ...Predator homeworld. Yeah, all in all, I enjoyed it. I wouldn't say I loved it, but I liked it.

And it's a good lead up to the next Predator movie, which is coming out later this year, whatever that is, Badlands or something. Yes. Ooh. And that's everything I've been saying. It's true, isn't it? Let me play that Superman game. It's a big sandwich if you wanted to see.

James, is it time for letters? I'm just telling you it's time for letters. I'm just looking at my watch. Okay. And my watch says, it's not sure. Okay. And the watch runs the show. Huh.

So what do you want to do? And you're not wearing a watch at all. Yeah. My watch. Is the watch in your mind? Send me a text. It's a smart watch. No, it's a regular watch. It's got hands.

It's a fossil. Like hands, like on a watch or physical human hands? It has physical human hands. In addition to its watch hands. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? James, your flights of fancy have gotten out of control. I like to think-

I wish Austin Powers was still here. And alive? I mean, there's still time maybe. But I wish he was still here and alive to write this ship. I don't think he would. I think a watch with hands would make him horny. I don't think it would be good for him. That's actually a really good point.

Yeah. But unfortunately I can't know, because I can't know alternate timelines. I know everything about this timeline, which he has killed. He did die. Yeah, he was killed in America. But he might be back next week. I mean, he might be. Maybe he's got a twin brother.

Or maybe it's a past version of him. That's true. You know? He's been in a time machine. He did do in a time machine. Once he get in a time machine, all bets are off in terms of whether a character will or not return. That's right.

Anyway, let's do the letter segment. It's time for the letter segment. Maybe Austin Powers will be in it. The classic one was a letter. Do you think? I don't think he will be. A letter to love you, some letters, they're only a day away. You know they're here right now, we're going to do letters. Hey, letter segment of the show. If you're doing a send a letter, send a brief Gmail to wiknecletterport.gmail.com

and if it's slightly longer than brief, break it up into small consumable paragraphs. Manageable. Manageable paragraphs. Ideally, it would be manageable. Email etiquette. Or if you can't do that, absolutely unmanageable. Just a wall of text on my phone and I scroll and I'm like, this keeps going, doesn't it? And you won't read it.

I won't read it. Either to yourself or out loud on this podcast. That's correct yes. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Great. Here's an email from Will. Or Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group on Facebook. That's correct. There's a thread everywhere. Here's an email from Will. Will. Hey James and Mace I'm a college teacher from Milton Keynes. So am I. Kind of near London. Oh. That's right. And I teach film, partially inspired by the new fairy tales franchise, e.g. Blood and Honey and Popeye the Slayer Man. Oh yeah, very good. I put together a project for the students where they have to successfully come up with a reboot for any character that is currently in the public domain. Some go for the easy ones like Dracula and Frankenstein, a few went out there and did characters like Baba

Yaga and Buck Rogers. Yes. My question is, if you had to do that, what character would you pick and how would you reboot them? That is very good. I've attached a list if you need some inspiration, but I can't click it because it's a screenshot. Oh, okay, fair enough. I guess we'll never know. God, so I just got served an AI video of a gorilla merging with Iron Man on Facebook.

Oh, hell yeah. Is it a suit up one? No, this is terrible. All right, I'm going to show you. I'm sorry, I am listening and I am listening. Okay, here we go. So they're standing together. And they're fusioning. Iron Man and the Gorilla.

Watch them fuse. Wow. They don't even fuse. They duck down in the camera pans and then it's a gorilla just wearing some of an Iron Man suit. It's like they're doing a skit at a cosplay convention. Yeah. They just duck out of sight, but not even out of sight.

That's amazing. That's from Fusion King on Facebook. God, he's the king of Fusion, isn't he? That sucks. No, I thought it was good actually. I've got a list here. You mentioned Zoro is in the public domain. That's true, he is.

Seems obvious, yes. There's a character here called Wogglebug. I think that could be interesting, from 1904. Okay, Wogglebug. He's from could be interesting from 1904. He's from the Marvelous Land of Oz. The Green Llama. I guess anything in the Land of Oz is copyright free. Correct. Don Diego de la Vega is in the...

There's a character called Daredevil from the 30s and 40s. Daredevil? Yeah. But not... Jack Binder. Not the good Daredevil. No, not the good one. Yeah. What are you thinking Mason? Dorian Gray, you could do another League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Well, see what the problem you have to face here is that even though some of these are out of copyright somebody has recently done something with them. Yes. And so depending on how powerful they are, they might like bring the legal team down upon you even though they're not supposed to. Yeah. A Sinbad could be fun. Go back to a Sinbad. I'm leaning towards something Cthulhu. Oh yeah, because that's all.

I mean, there have been some recent ones. Nicolas Cage was in a couple. Was he? Yeah, he was in The Colour Out of Space, I think, and he was in another one. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Aren't Cthulhu supposed to be? It's unknowable. I look at that. I can't even describe the horror now this squid guys I'm a squid. Yeah, it's good squid. It's unknowable. Yeah, I would love What no, I just thought like because you know the I

Maybe something like you come in you could certainly do a black mirror episode on it because the idea of Cthulhu is the there there, you know from from you know, the dawn of time and they're so Incomprehensibly grotesque that if you look at them, you know that that image enters your mind it destroys your brain I'm mad just just an episode of black mirror where it never happens to people because they are always on their phones They're not truly paying attention to anything. I think Doctor Who probably did that. And they can just wander around. It doesn't matter.

Doctor Who would do that. There's a modern day interpretation of Cthulhu, it's called Delta Green and it's kind of like X-Files Spec Ops versus kind of like the Cthulhu Mythos monsters. Oh, that's fun. I think that's a bit of fun. So I'll just say I can't do that. No, it's something like that. I would love to see a Delta Green movie. I think Zorro versus Daredevil, but Daredevil from the Netflix Marvel universe.

What about Zorro or Sherlock Holmes? I mean, there was going to be a Zorro Jango at one point. There was even the comic. There was the comic, yeah. So that, because Jango is out of, because he's an older character, as in like he's from a past era, that still counts. Oh, you think so? So he's now out of continuity or whatever we're talking about. Okay, sure.

Yeah. Why not, eh? I know it's obvious, but something Zorro. Yeah. Modern Zorro? I mean, even I would take, I want Anthony, not Anthony, this is not- You want Anthony about Ant Spade? Yeah, which is not, this is not the question. No, of course not. But this is what I want. That's what I want Anthony, not Anthony, this is not- You want Anthony about Anthony? Yeah, which is not, this is not the question.

No, of course not. But this is what I want. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what the question has evolved into. Yeah. We're applying Death of the Author to this. That's right. The, um, the-

I don't know, yeah, or Paul Bunyan, there you go, he's one. What- Whatever he does. He's just a big man, isn't he? He's a giant lumberjack and folk hero in American and Canadian folklore. His tall tales revolve around his superhero, superhuman labors and he's customarily accompanied by Babe the Blue Ox. Who's also big? Nah.

Interesting. The size of a mouse. I'm leaning towards Zorro 2 now. Zorro 2? There was a Zorro 2. Yeah, James. I think he means Zorro 3, bro. Come on, man.

James, see the problem, of course, is that you need, whenever I think of a modern day reboot of anything, I think of modern day The Phantom or modern day something like that. You could do modern day Zoro, right? Kind of. Isn't that just green arrow? There was a, yeah, well there was like a pitch for post-apocalyptic Zorro, which I think would work better because you take it back to that kind of era, but you do it with some modern stuff. Yeah, because in a world where people have fully automatic assault weapons and unlimited

bullets, a guy with a sword not... But I mean when he wins, even more impressive. Exactly. Riddled with bullets and dying. Zorro, Zorro. I'm going to say Cthulhu. I'm going to say Zorro versus Cthulhu. What about

this Mason? Great question. Oh yes. From Brody Fitzgerald who says, any yet unannounced DC U project you'd like to see now that the first two projects are out? We didn't really talk about the connections to creature commanders, but they are. Justice society. Yeah? Yeah. I mean, yes. What about Batman? Nah. No, zero interest. Batman, but a What about Batman? No, not in zero interest. Batman, but a new Batman, and it's a new Batman, and he's big.

So absolute Batman. Absolutely big Batman. So I'd love to see absolutely, absolutely big Batman. It's not to be clear, it's not the absolute universe. Different. It's different. It's out of continuity. It's just absolutely big Batman.

Yes, I would love to see that. Now I, my first thought went to justice society. And I know there was a little bit of justice society in black Adam movie, a movie that we love. But you do it said in the said in the 30s 40s. Okay, yeah, that's interesting. Because we just we've just established that in the bunch those in the new DCU, it is Yeah, it is, you know, metahumans have been around for 300 years, so they must have seen

through a bunch of, you know, modern history stuff. So give us, give us the Justice Society, Original Green Lantern, Flash, all those guys. I'm going to say, and there was one of these maybe in Superman, I'm going to say the Justice League where they fight the white Martians. Oh yeah, that's a good one. That would be a great first Justice League comic book. And you could easily fit it into this continuity. Also, just as society set in the 40s that's good because again Zorro style they're not facing fully automatic assault weapon. That's right. With unlimited bullets.

You know what I mean? Is Dr. Fate really old in Black Adam? I think he is isn't he? Um. I think he's older than he looks because of the helmet. I don't know. I don't know. But I don't know if he's just the current wielder of the Doctor Fate helmet. Okay. Yeah. Great. There's no way of knowing. Anything else? Legion of Super Heroes. Why them specifically? I don't know, man. Jump to the future? Jump to the future. You want to see a booster gold? Yeah, I guess. Birthday 1910s. Okay. So there you go. So he's a little bit older. That's10s. Okay. So there you go. So he's a little bit older.

That's actually great. That's actually great. Cool. And the rock could come back. That's very cool. He nearly took over the DCU. I remember that. Yeah, man.

He was on the cusp of it. We're all on tenterhooks. He was on the cover of Time magazine. Was he? Yeah. Mason, what's your next letter? This is from Daniel. Daniel.

Who says, you guys were part of my wife's birth plan. No, we weren't. Yeah, we were. Hey, James and Mason, I'm writing to you from Labor and Delivery Department of the Hospital in Sacramento, California. Woo! Where I just had my third child a few hours ago. Your cartoon face is one of the first things to greet my first two kids. So naturally, my wife made a point to have me wear my Weekly Planet shirt for the sake of consistency.

The shirt has gradually faded throughout the years, but even as your faces disappear completely from it, it will still be the shirt I held my kids for the first time in. Keep up the good work. That's awesome. From Danny. Could you see the picture? Nope. You don't have to send a picture, Danny.

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry he has some privacy, James. Sorry. I don't respect that. I want to know everything about your life. That's true. Yeah. And then immediately forget it. That's lovely and thank you for supporting us and congratulations and stop having kids Wow Three's enough. Wow

In my opinion, I want five kids. Okay have five kids if that's what you want to do I'm just joking obviously, but I wouldn't Mason. That's great. Congratulations Is from Phil Smith, I appreciate it. You mean congratulations for reading that email. Yeah, you did great. Congratulations. Thanks man, I appreciate it. This is from Philippa Welsh. You mean congratulations for reading that email. Yeah, you did a good job. Thanks. This is from Philippa Welsh who says, after Fantastic Four, what movie are you most looking forward to seeing the most?

So it's this year, I guess. This year, like any movie. I mean, I want to see what Avatar 3 looks like. Yeah. And even though I just watched this, but the Predator Badlands, the previous one as I just said. I really want to see the next Predator movie. What do you want to see? You said you wanted to see the Epstein files, didn't you?

I mean, I would like to see that, sure, absolutely. I think that's a good request. Great question. I'm going to have to find one. I can bring up a list for you. If you could, here we go, upcoming movies. Upcoming movies, James. I mean, Avatar I am interested in.

It's more, I'm not like, well, I can't't wait but I'm just interested to see what they do with it. I'm interested, yeah, I'm interested to see... I don't really care. No, I'm interested, yeah exactly, I'm interested to see how it has progressed technically. Yeah. And I think maybe I'll watch at least some of the previous Avatar going in to be like, is this such an incredible leap from the... the first to the second was an incredible leap. I can't imagine it's going to be that big of a leap. No, but that last one was water and this one's gonna be fire

So yeah, yeah. Okay, look upcoming movies. Yep. I'm excited for weapons. Does that Craig a movie? Oh, yeah shit And the new running man. I'm excited for that And I'm excited for the new knives out. I am really excited for Tron Aries despite. Yeah, I know I wish yeah Yeah, I am excited, but you know, yeah., yeah I know. I wish. I am excited but you know. Oh and the naked gun. Again, Pamela Anderson's back. What about Zootopia? No.

What about Five Nights at Freddy's 2? No. What about Wicked Part 2? No. Wicked Part Deuce? No. Wicked Deuce. No.

Wicked Deuce. When's the Smashing Machine coming out? I don't know, ask your mum. Come on man. Come on man. Because she knows, doesn't she? Yeah, she loves independent cinema, so... safety for others. I don't know. She's like, you see this frickin' uncut gems?

I'm just on your mum's personal blog and she says October 2nd in Australia. Oh. That's in Australia. Okay, alright. God, I hope Emily Blunt takes her kids to her sisters. Yeah. I'm taking her kids to her sisters. Yeah. I'm taking the kids to my sisters.

Yes! Woo! Nice. Yeah, those are the things. Black Phone 2, there's a new model combat coming out. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. For me, it's those things I've said.

In addition to the naked gun coming out, there is another Liam Neeson movie coming out called Ice Road Vengeance. Oh, there's a second one, yeah. Yeaheson movie coming out called Ice Road Vengeance. Oh, there's a second one, yeah. Yeah, okay. Did you see Ice Road 1? No, apparently it's alright. Great, that's great. Oh, there's also a Michael Jackson biopic coming out this year.

Oh yeah? Is one of your faves? No. Interesting. I was like, why have I written on this list? Because I've got my Caravan of Garbage list, and I've got the movies and TV shows that come out around the same time. And I'm like, what's Michael? And I looked it up and I'm like, oh You didn't want to say you don't want to put Michael Jackson. It's the name of the movie. Oh, okay, right Yeah, that's terrific. Yeah. All right. What's next? My his one more email James and I've got one more after you. That's terrific

Okay, this is Jacob Jacob f1 movie for an f1 fan. Hi James and James. Sorry I'm a week late on this one. Well now you're two weeks late. Yeah come on Matt. Catch up. I didn't read this in time. But I just thought I'd throw in my two cents about the F1 movie from the perspective of an F1 fan. It is the most horrific advertisement for the sport they could possibly have made. Every part of it was completely unrealistic. There is no magic upgrade that changes your car from being the worst to the best overnight and Brad Pitt's character definitely isn't qualified to be calling any of the shots he makes in the movie. Also the race where his amazing strategy is to crash into everyone to help his teammate is a serious rule breach. It'd be considered race fixing, it'd have been disqualified from the race for certain and possibly even banned from the sport.

Love the show, keep up the good work from Jack. I think that's true. That being said though, it did make me want to watch some F1. I haven't subsequently, but I could. Because you've already forgotten. Exactly. I've already forgotten. Well, I was speaking to a guy who actually used to work. He used to specifically work on tyres for F1. The Michelin man?

Yeah, the Michelin man. And he... Hello. That's not how he talks. Hello. That's right. G'day, James. Uh-huh. And he, hello. That's not how he talks. Hello. That's right. G'day, James.

Haven't seen you in a long time. Hello. I just have a quick question. Go ahead. This is a recording, by the way. What did you think of the F1 movie? It was good. Yeah.

That's what he said. So that's basically, he enjoyed all of it. And I said, boy, there's a lot of tie changing in it. And he went, absolutely. I've been up to a lot of stuff. You interested? You want to have a chat about my life? Dude, you know I don't. Oh, I've been to a lot of tie changing in it and he went absolutely. I've been up to a lot of stuff. You interested in what I have a chat about? Dude. My life?

You know I don't. Oh, I've been to a lot of nice restaurants. Why? I'm the Michelin Man guy. Oh, do you judge the... Yes! Do you know Austin Powers? Yes.

I don't like the two of you together. I don't know what that would look like, but I don't like it. You're far down. I hope I don't. He's dead. What? What? Oh no! And I've been here giving stars to restaurants.

That's right, it is your fault. I should have spent time with my good friend Austin Powers. He's also on the Epstein tapes. I'm sorry. Oh no! I don't know why I'm the one to tell you this but this is what happens. This is just a lot to take in. Yeah, imagine it is.

Anyway, I'm going for real. I don't like this. Okay, bye. Bye. You know, I've got an extra seat at a French bistro in a bit Michelin. Do you? Yeah, maybe from Michelin Star. Then put your legs up.

Just put your feet up, mate. Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah, I'm really going though. Okay bye. Yep. Wow. Anyway I'm glad I recorded that. That you're with your former friend the Michelin man. We were never friends. Okay. But anyway you also spoke to a friend of yours who is very familiar with F1 racing were you saying? Did something with tyres? Yeah. Okay. But that's a story for another day. That's probably true.

They said it was good. I mean, whatever it is can't compare to your friendship with the Michelin man. Yeah, that's probably true. Not a friendship. Mason is from Kedi Shark Chung who says, there's something I've been noticing a lot and lately in movies. During montages, usually in the emotional third act, movies were used footage that we saw earlier in the film.

I don't know if it's because directors and editors think audience apps as short attention spans or what, but it really takes me out of the movie when they can't be bothered to shoot additional footage. Recently there was incredibly noticeable in sinners and 28 years later thoughts. Yeah, I don't know. Is this like a studio mandate thing or a story kind of... There cannot be any... Like when you think of a Danny Boyle,

there is no way. I'm thinking of him now. I don't think, there's no way he's like, yeah, my audience is kind of dumb and they need to be reminded of stuff in the form of a montage. Like he's, and also I think most directors probably have like a very strong vision of what they want.

And they're not gonna be like, well, if I don't remember what happened to this movie, I'd better add that. Then nobody will. Yeah, exactly. I think they're, it's 100% studio. Yeah. God damn, Mason. What a world we live in. I know, right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't, yeah, it's just people, they think people are stupid and some people are. But is, but okay, but also is that making people stupider in terms of- Oh, okay.

Media literacy. Media literacy in the sense of like- Because they expect it at this point. They're like, I'm not going to pay attention because I know there'll be a summary at some point. At the end now. Yeah. I don't know.

Honestly, when it happens, I don't even think I notice. Yeah. Like it's just kind of- I also think probably, and we've talked about this before, Netflix is Netflix is is there they're like, oh, we're up. We're all about second screen entertainment. Yeah, we know people are on their phones Yeah, so we need to have people explain things in dialogue that's happening on the screen and yes, etc. So yes, it's that it's that Yeah, I mean it's good. It's good. I think yeah movies are good movies are good It's good. I think movies are good. And movies are good. Sometimes they're not that good though.

They're good. Is that the Shizow? That's the whole show. Yes. Shizow? No, it's a show. Okay. I mean, it's not really a show.

That's, if only there were another word. The loosest term. Yeah. A podcast. Nice. Experience. Content. Yes.

Makes you, because it makes you content. Does it make you content? Yes, it does. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. Good.

Yeah. Not me. Wow. Makes me anxious. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Good. Not me. Wow. Makes me anxious that a lot of people listen to me.

Oh, by the way, thank you to people who came up and said, hi, the Superman screening. It was wonderful to meet so many people and for my son to go, I didn't know people knew who you are. Well, it's true. They do. And also- Next time I see your son, I'm going to be like, how did you meet all those people that your dad paid to have come up to you?

You'll believe it too. Anyway, everyone was really lovely. That's great. Um, it was it was too many to name Well, I meant a listener at the regular screening because I'm a regular man of the people. Well, what was their name? I'll find out Okay, I'll find out. I'm Liam I met down the beach over the weekend as well. And that was cool Liam at the beach. Yeah Liam at the beach. What a time. I'll tell you what their name was. It was Liam. Was it? Yeah it was Liam. Whoa. At the cinema. Here's an email from Liam. G'day boys. Dude we did this already. I'm not. Recently had a chance to get on with One Nick Mason and screening of Superman. I want to thank Mr. Mason for having a little chat and taking a picture with me. Remember day slash night and I truly appreciate it. I would have taken a picture with you. He was going to the hot pot after. What? He was going to the hot pot after. You know the hot pot? No. Like a Mongolian hot pot? No. Okay then. Sorry man I can't help you. Alright then. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I guess you're not as cultured as you claim you are. As Liam. And Liam yeah. I never claim anything. That's probably true. I've done a lot of stuff though. Had a lot of experiences both local and international. Yeah. That's why you're on that list.

Not those kind of experiences. I've regular culinary experiences. That's the regular culinary experience list, man list. No, you said it like it was. The Epstein list. I know. You know what you did. I did. All right.

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Nice. All right. Thanks, everyone. That's the end of the show. Hey, I'm back, baby. Wow. This is groovy. What are you doing? Austin Powers, what are you doing? That's what I'm saying. What are you doing here? I'm back. I'm completed my mission. Well, what, which was? I don't know. Some stuff. There was, there was a lady bot or whatever. Oh yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I saw you die. Austin Powers. This is me. Yeah. I saw you die. Well, I didn't. Austin Powers, this is me. I saw you die, Austin. Well, I didn't.

Does that mean your powers don't work? I don't know. It's a mystery. It's a cliffhanger, isn't it? It's an international man of mystery. It's an international mystery cliffhanger situation. Well, Austin, we look forward to seeing you next week. No, I'm not coming back next week. Yeah, but you might. I don't think I will. Yeah, but you might.

I'm going to be really busy. You might. And Mike, this joke, joke. This series of events might happen for a really long time. Don't you think? My international super spiker is not a joke, James. I don't think it is. And neither is Austin Powers. Alright?

Alright, fair. Yeah. Alright. No, grab that Jamie guys. We'll see you next week. And buy Austin Powers. Buy. But not for the last time.

Hey, shake it out like babies. You know we will. Yeah.