The Weekly Planet - 584 Superman Success & Best/Worst Legacy Comic Characters

Episode Date: July 20, 2025

Now that we’re between the big releases of Superman and Fantastic Four: First Steps, it's time for another topic episode!  This time it’s best and worst legacy characters which at this point pretty much encompasses everything superhero character ever.  We also talk Fantastic Four news including its runtime and the removal John Malkovich’s Red Ghost, casting for the live action Legend of Zelda movie, a trailer for Stranger Things Season 5, another long wait for the next season of The Last of Us and Severance, updates of the Clayface movie, Superman’s Box Office, fast tracking a Wonder Woman solo movie and the first poster for Supergirl releasing in 2026. Thanks for listening!New episode of bonus podcast "James & Mason's Time Crapsule" out now! Plus entire back-catalogue of let's play videos, bonus podcasts, movie commentaries, early access and ad-free episodes all available on https://bigsandwich.coPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start04:11 Fantastic Four: First Steps Runtime & Cut Character08:00 New Leader of The Avengers in MCU Revealed12:43 The Legend of Zelda Movie Casting18:24 Mortal Kombat Sequel Teaser21:26 Stranger Things S5 Trailer27:20 Why Are Shows Taking So Long?31:22 Clayface Movie in Superman DCU33:38 Superman Box Office & Sequels Latest40:45 Black Adam Character Returning42:02 Supergirl Teaser Poster43:44 Best & Worst Legacy Comic Characters01:23:43 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:36:50 Letters, It's Time For Letters (Some Superman Spoilers)SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. Nick Mason, you're here. It's me, I'm here. That's right.

That's right. That's right. I wasn't gonna do the Austin Powers thing again because, you know I guess- What do you mean the Austin Powers thing? You know how sometimes Austin Powers visits? He's done that for the last couple of weeks, hasn't he? Yeah, yeah, I figured, but if he keeps visiting, I'll have to keep acknowledging that.

You might have to start paying him. Yeah, no. And then, but you know how like, I'll do a thing, and then I can't stop doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when anybody says, hey, I'm kind of tired of this bit, then I can't stop doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and then when anybody says hey I'm kind of tired of this bit then that gives me light spite you decide to keep it going One person says at one time. That's correct. Yeah, well, this is every day. Yeah, I'm gonna ruin everything forever now. That's correct

Yes, also you probably have to that's growth by the way Yeah, you either have to pay him in like old British money or Swedish penis pumps or whatever That's what he what he likes. Can I borrow yours? My British money. No, it's all mine, but you could give him one of your Swedish penis pumps, dude I would never Anyways thought I'd ask It's a big week Mason. Anyway, whatever characters you need to show up in the intro, I'm sure they would show up in a very vague and listen matter of fact, very matter of

fact way. I'm just leaving the door open. I'm just saying, you know, now we're between big movies, whether they, whether they, you know, lived in a swamp or they married an ax murderer. Okay. Maybe not that one because I don't really know them. You don't need to know them. Why would you need to know them? I don't know. Because then maybe, no, yeah, it's true. You're absolutely right.

I'm not even there when they show up most of the time. Some kind of love guru maybe. Maybe, yeah. A cat in the hat. Maybe a cat in a hat would show up. The pentagovan or whatever it's called. Maybe some of the pentagovans would arrive. Yeah. A lot of good things are happening. All those are good and fine. Wayne's world. Pete's called. Maybe some of the pentaverids would arrive. Yeah.

A lot of good things are happening. All those are good and fine. Wayne's world. Pete's Meteor. There you go. Pete's Meteor would be there. Okay. Just sitting in the seat, sizzling away.

Absolutely. You know. As I was trying to say before you got on this riff, I don't like it. I don't like it. We're in between big movies. You can grow to like it. No, I won't. Okay.

We're between big movies, aren't we? That's true. We're slap bang in the middle of Superman Which I want to talk about a little bit more in terms of box office and explain my Kevin Costner thing that I said Did you say Kevin Costner thing? We'll talk about it later. And then we've got Fantastic Four next week. Correct. So we thought this week We're gonna talk about legacy characters. We'll do a topic episode. It's been a while That's right. And what a good opportunity to do that. But of course there's news of the week. That's right.

Bearing in mind we're not recording this early are we? This is going out seconds before. We're recording it really early. Yeah it's quite early this one. The big sandwich subscribers are getting a real treat this week. They got an episode on Monday and they'll be getting an episode almost instantly. That's right. Monday afternoon.

And they're nothing for several days after that. So we have missed the Mortal Kombat trailer by accident. But we did get another trailer. That's right. And a Johnny Cage thing. Anyway, there's time codes below if you want to jump to anything because these are what we talk about hot topics. That's right. We're going to talk about the runtime of Fantastic Four first steps including a character cut. Uh oh. And who's going to lead the Avengers? We know now. Well, Mr. Fantastic got cut out of Fantastic Four so lead the Avengers? We know now. Well, Mr Fantastic got cut out of Fantastic Four so it can't be him. That's the character they're cut out of.

That's right. They're like, we can't do the stretchy thing. It doesn't work. Kevin Feige doesn't like it. That's why they changed Ms Marvel. Yeah, that's right. He said it's stupid and you're an idiot. He did say that, yeah.

Legend of Zelda casting. They're making a movie. They're making a big Zelda movie. We're going to talk trailers for Stranger Things Season 5. The final Stranger. And maybe some Mortal Kombat stuff. We're going to talk about then some DCU stuff including the Clayface movie. The return on Superman, how it's doing box office-wise.

Pretty good, but maybe not as good as you'd think. We're going to talk about what the next Superman movie is going to be and fast tracking another DCU movie. Oh, I see. And we're going to talk about also a actor in the DCU, in the previous DC universe who might show up. And it's a good one, I think. Intriguing.

And there's a Supergirl poster. There is, it's true. And then the thing I said about legacy, etc. That's right. I might have mentioned this, but timecode's below Collin to edit this. Let's start here, Mason. Go on. Fantastic Four First Steps. It's nearly Collin's who edits this. Let's start here, Mason. Go on. Fantastic Four First Steps.

It's nearly time for it to come out. It's nearly time. It's going to go for an hour and 55 minutes. That's good. And you might be like, but why? Why would it go? Isn't there, what about all John Malkovich's scenes? I was wondering about that.

Wouldn't that make it longer? I was told they're just going to put in the second act from being John Malkovich in the middle of this movie. Are they not going to do that anymore? No, it says they're not going to do in the second act from being John Malkovich in the middle of this movie. Are they not going to do that anymore? No, it says they're not going to do it anymore. And his character from also being John Malkovich in this movie, Red Ghost, has been completely cut. Oh, that's a shame.

Apparently, according to Matt Shackman, he was brewing in it and gave it his all. But I ultimately realized that his appearance wasn't working with the full story. It was heartbreaking not to include him in the final version of the movie because he's one of my favorite humans, one of my biggest inspirations. I was honored for him to come play. But now his stuff's in the toilet. To be clear I cut it out, yeah, I put it on a USB stick and then I accidentally dropped it in the toilet. Sorry, on purpose. What is this character even? Red Ghost. He's a guy and he's... Does he have apes? Yeah, he has apes. He can mentally control apes.

I don't think he's an actual ghost. No. Although maybe he can... maybe he's intangible. I'm gonna find... Let's have a look. Like Ghost from the MCU? Yeah, kind of, but probably not now that I think about it. Here's a list of his known super apes.

Miklo, Igor, Petro, Alpha, Beta, Grigori, Yaroslavi. Oh, he's Russian, I assume. Or his apes are, at the very least. He can become intangible. There we go, that's what I thought. At will. Yep. He has psionic fields.

Okay, great. He can turn transparent. He was hiding once and Reed Richards couldn't find him. Wow. He can also solidify his body one part at a time. Okay, sure. Wouldn't it just fall off? No.

Interesting. And he can change hearts and minds one at a time. That's beautiful. Yeah. His Wikipedia page says the characters, the characters, because they're including the red ghost and his gorillas. I mean, that's too many things.

He's a ghost and he has a gorilla? Yeah, yeah. Started their career fighting the Fantastic Four before confronting other Marvel heroes such as Iron Man and Spider-Man. I think some of those are fairly short fights. Well he's a ghost though right? I mean they'd beat the gorillas up or whatever but then you'd have to fight the ghost and that would be harder. You just wait till he solidifies then you hit him with a deadly weapon of mass destruction. Yeah okay. Or your spider punches. Yeah it could do with some of your

spider punches. Anyway don't worry about him he's not in the movie. I wonder whether it was gonna be like an opening thing or that's what I wanted Yeah, there was that one image of him. I don't know if you've seen it. Yeah. He was also gonna be um He's gonna be Vulture in Spider-Man 4. Okay. I think he was up for Norman Osborn like originally like right I know or he was considered but he was definitely gonna to be vulture right for that movie that didn't happen Yeah, I think you're correct in here. This this is a You know it was gonna be we established that what the fantastic four do in their own universe You know to safeguard the world and it's fighting a intangible ghost man and his gorilla friends. Mm-hmm They're not all gorillas by the way

Some of them are like orangutan whatever Some of them are like orangutan or whatever. Also, they're going to lead the Fantastic Four universe. We know that from Thunderbolt. So the red ghost is going to overrun this world. Exactly. No, they'll probably put in a line where like, we just defeated the red ghost and we killed him and his apes.

We hit him with a ray that killed them. Yeah, it was a ray we invented that can kill apes and ghosts. It wasn't even that hard to do. So there you go. And then they flash back to their old universe and there's just a kid, he's got it, he's killing apes and he goes to the zoo. At the apes and ghosts zoo? Correct, yes. Oh no.

I guess you don't need it really, but you know, it would have been nice for the bit of colour for the universe. You know at the start of like... The Incredibles. The Incredibles? The Incredibles 2, it's like the Underminer or whatever. Maybe it was something like that. I don't know. Or care.

But we are going to see that movie. Matt Chapman also spoke to Variety and he said that Reed Richards is the leader of the Avengers. Okay, thanks for that big spoiler. Yeah, man. Matt Chapman and also whoever reported that and you. Yeah. The chain of command. And also Twitter because I read it on thereakman and also whoever reported that and you. Yeah. Chain of command and also

Twitter because I read it on there earlier, but I'm choosing to blame you. Man, get off Twitter. What are you doing? But also you love it. I love it. You love the poison. I love the poison. I love Grok. I love asking Grok if

things are true. And then when Grok says they are true, I'm like, oh, but what if the circumstances are completely different? And I and I love just asking over and over again until it comes up with an answer that I could justify in my mind as being integrating with me.

Then I'm smug all day. I love that too, actually. I love it too, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, I guess it's the leader of the Avengers, which was the Captain America Sam Wilson team and not the new Avengers, which I guess Bucky runs. I think it'll be a combo team. Oh, aucky runs? I think it'll be a combo team.

Oh, a combo team. Nah, Mason, that was pretty clear that there were two Avengers teams. I think it'll be a combo team almost instantly. Do you think because again, at the end of the Thunderbolts, we see the Fantastic Four ship come in and the new Avengers notice it. Do you think he comes into that room and he's like, I'm taking this over. You can't, I'm going to do this now. Absolutely.

Yeah. Step back. And they're all, the Thunderbolts are like, oh thank god. God. We did not know what we were doing. We were all just Captain America guys. We needed a, I mean we didn't even unpack any boxes in this building. Like we don't, we didn't know where to, we can't make a decision on where to put anything. We can't do help. Yeah, he could do that quickly as well. It's true. With his stretch abilities. That's right. Wow. Anyway, looking forward to it?

Yes. I'm looking forward to seeing Galactus. That's what I'm excited about. Big real Galactus. And hearing Galactus. And he's like, hello everyone. I'm coming. I've got to eat your planet.

Yeah man. There's the breaks. I saw a clip as well that spoiled- I'm a cosmic being. Because you know, I don't know if you saw that clip, I'm not going to spoil it whether they find out what he wants. Oh yeah. And they just, it's in the clip and they just spoil it. Yeah. I'm aware of it. Yeah. I mean, I was, I thought it would be something like that, but you know, it's nice to see it before the movie comes out, which we're seeing very soon

because it is next week, isn't it? As in this week. It's Monday. Let's not. Let's not? We're doing it. Okay. Yeah. Anyways. I'm faddish. I'm gonna take a big bite out of the... Do you think he's gonna be a big biting planet guy or he's got a machine that like eats the earth and stuff? Sometimes he's bugs as well. Isn't the ultimate version... Sometimes he's bugs and clouds. Yeah, but do you remember the ultimate version is bugs? No, the ultimate version is like, like they're not nano bots, but they're like, they're like big machine probe. He's a swarm. He's a swarm of machines. Yeah. But not bugs. Like I'm not saying literal bugs, Mason. He's like bugs. Yeah. But he can film silver surfers, but they're not guys. They're robots. He's like bugs. He's always

like, eh, what's up, Doc? He's like bugs. He's like bugs, yes. Okay. I'm famished, Doc. Eh. To Richards. I'm famished. Let's talk about this, Mason.

I've got the bad cheese, Doc. You might just. Legend of Zelda's got some casting. Okay. Oh, you can't kill Galactus either, can you? Because he's like part of the universe. Well, I mean, technically, yes, but that's also one of those rules that they may or may not throw out for the movies.

It's like when they, you know, the, the one of the rules in the comic books is the infinity gauntlet only works in the universe in which it was created. If you take it to another, like, if it's like Loki, yeah, if it's a multiverse situation, you go to another universe with your infinity gauntlet doesn't work. Yeah. But they would just like, because in what if they're just, there's a God, there's a, does Ultron have the infinity gauntlet? Yeah. And he's just going like, eh. Because in What If, there's a god. Does Ultron have the Infinity Gauntlet? And he's just going from dimension to dimension and it's fine.

Yeah. Maybe you got the one that can do that. Maybe you got the one that can do that. Also, they do it in the movies because the stones that they get are from different dimensions. Oh, that's true. Yeah, so Galactus... Like the dimension where Steve Rogers stole that guy's wife. Anyway, go on. That's not true. It's true. Well, he did, but he's the guy.

Maybe. Yeah, I think he is. Anyway, Galactus in the comics is, they decided he's the guy that, he was the last survivor of the previous universe that was destroyed in the Big Crunch. When the next Big Bang happened to create the current Marvel Universe, he got transformed into Galactus. So he's an integral part of it. So that is sort of the idea behind it is prevents, it means the heroes have to find a more creative

solution because there are presumably big enough guns in the Marvel Universe they could just kill him if they want to. But they're like, we can't though, because the universe might end if we do that. If you thought he was a celestial with a big hat, you're wrong. That's right. There's another thing going on. Unless he is just that in the movies. If he is.

Yeah. Or he's Bugs. Mason. I'm actually Bugs. Whoa, dude. Legend of Zelda. I took a wrong turn at Albuquerque. Whoa, dude.

Legend of Zelda casting. Go on. I've not heard of this. There's a live, me neither. There's a live action movie. And if you go to the official Nintendo Twitter or whatever it says this this is Miyamoto Love that by the way. Love it. I'm pleased to announce that for the live-action film of the legend of Zelda Zelda We played by Bo

Braggersen sign question Shigeru Miyamoto. Yeah, what's his first name? Is it Miyamoto? Is it Shigeru? Are we switching around? Isn't it isn't it? I don't know. It's not Miyamoto Shigeru Is it it might be is it because Japanese names are the other way around. Really? Yes. But are we saying it? I'm looking. In Japanese, I realize I can't read Japanese. It says Miyamoto is a surname, though, but yeah, maybe it is backwards. Okay. So it's, okay. I don't know anything. Okay. You know that right, though. I do know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bo Braggson- anything. Okay. You know that right though. I do know that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bo Braggson San. Okay. And the fake name that somebody's made up on the spot. Oh, we're saying San is in like, okay.

And Link Benjamin Evan Ainsworth San. So that's. I see. Yeah. I'm very much looking forward to seeing both of them on the big screen. Tweet too. The film is scheduled to be released in theaters on May 7th, 2027. Thank you for your patience. You're welcome. You're welcome Shigeru Miyamoto.

I mean, you took your bloody time. I thought this was animated. I forgot that this was live action if I ever knew that. His first name is Shigeru because his wife's name. Is also Shigeru. It's Yasuko Miyamoto. Very good. How do you feel about these people you've never heard of? Ah, great. They look suitably Elfen and kind of, yeah, you know. And probably young.

They've got that vibe to them. Okay, great. He is 25. Okay. And she is, let me check. Do you mind if I check? You're allowed to check. Okay, great. And we could have had Tom Holland and Anya Taylor-Joy. 21. I agree.

I guess. I'm looking at the things that they're in. Or Tom Holland and Zendaya. I agree. Or Tom Holland and Anya Taylor-Joy. 21, I agree. I guess. I'm looking at the things that they're in. Or Tom Holland and Zendaya. I agree. Or Tom Holland and Chris Pratt. Oh, that's good. Mm-hmm, all right. I don't recognize any of the things that they've done.

Or Tom Holland and Mark Wahlberg, and it's an Uncharted sequel. Oh. And they've both got the big mustache. Oh. Right? Oh, you were gonna love this. I just realized he's actually in one of your favorite movies.

What is it? He was Pinocchio in the 2022 live action remake. Wow. You probably remember him. I remember him really well because I watched that movie for some reason and you didn't. Would you like me to watch it? Would it make you feel better? I think we should do a movie commentary where you watch it and I just leave immediately. OK.

And you're just there by yourself. I'm fine with that. It's great. Do we get money from it? Maybe. But we might not. We might not. No, I'm not with that. It's great. Do we get money from it? Maybe. But we might not. We might not. I'm not doing it for nobody.

Wow, all right. Yeah. Wow. Not even for the love of the game. What love and what game? You love movies and the game is Battleship. Most movies are fine and Battleship is not a good game. It's just grids.

It's fucking boring. Wow. As someone who's played Battleship a lot. Okay. Are you B2? No. Great. Are you another spot on the grid? I am.

Oh wow. Who cares? It's a fucking stupid game. Wow. And it goes fucking forever. God, you've got no joy in your life, guys. There's no joy. Mason, it's just a grid.

If it wasn't called Battleship, it would be like just guess some fucking numbers. That sounds great. It's bullshit. They could make a whole TV show on that. We're going to trademark this right away. Guess fucking numbers. That sounds great. It's bullshit. They could make a whole TV show on that. We're going to trademark this right away. Guess some numbers. Number way. You've seen Tilt the Room?

Yeah. You've seen that one. This shit's moving around. What's that one? And it's just like discs on a, and they just push the discs off the platform. What's that called? Money. People love that.

I don't know. You introduced that to me. I'd never heard of it. People love that. I don't know. You introduced that to me. I'd never heard of it. I've already forgotten what it's called. But I think guess some numbers would be great. Is that the number? It's not. Oh.

Alright. You can guess some more numbers though. No, I quit. Well that is always an option. We did tell you that at the start of the game. So I guess this week's episode will only be two minutes long. Goodnight everyone. You recognise that Battleship is just guessing numbers, right?

Yeah, of course. It's fucking nothing. I don't like any game. It's just jumping over stuff. No, no, I don't like any game where I could like see through. You don't like any game. No, that's true. I don't like board games generally because often you go to a thing and people are like

let's play a board game. It's like, can we just, why don't we just chat? No, see, but you're not against games there. You're against enforced fun. That is true also. Yeah, you're right. Absolutely. But like, I don't like when I can see

through the mechanics of a game. I find it when I'm like, I'm just doing boring math. Like that's when I'm like, I hate this. Right, okay. Yeah. Anyway, what are we talking about? Zelda? See, who's fun. There's like a strategy to it, right? It's just putting numbers next to comparable numbers though, isn't it?

No, it's not actually. Okay. Is there strategy to it? Strategy to it. Well, there's a strategy to Battleship as well. No, it's not. I mean, it's just, you just kind of, you pick one, we're talking about this too much. You pick one. I think we're's just you just kind of you pick one but talking about this too much

One I think we're gonna get and then you just you know There's one there and you go around until you find it. That's a strategy. That's the strategy So there's no there's no nuance to it. It's just literally guessing you want some nuance Yeah, I know it's the nuance you want There's no because if there was a way to fix it They would have what the new what the nuance should be is some of the Ships have innocent people on board and you see not and sometimes you're like I'm doing really well I've hit this ship four times and you're like there was yeah, but again, that's not it's not real because it's just building But putting well-building upon a boring skeleton of an idea. Okay, that's what I'm telling you

Okay, you want a good game? Monopoly deal. Good game. Strategy. What is that? It's Monopoly but a card game. Monopoly sucks but Monopoly deal is good. And it goes for like 10 minutes. Okay. As opposed to Monopoly which goes for your entire fucking life. And that's capitalism baby. Mason we better move it along.

Alright if we got to. It's called Strangeth. It's called Trailers Ahoy. Yes. Honk. First of all, we caught the teaser trailer for Johnny Cage's fake film starring Carl Urban. He looks good as Johnny Cage. I think so too. I was like, him, I guess, but he's great.

It's from New Line Cinema who are also producing this Mortal Kombat movie and the previous Mortal Kombat movies. What did I enjoy about it? Hang on, what's it called again? Caged, let's find it. Caged Fury? Caged Fury. Something like that.

There we go, Uncaged Fury, there we go. There we go. I loved the two martial, what I loved about it is it's a really good cool hand cage. That's fun. And hard to cage. Hard to cage. And rebel without a cage.

I love that it really does look like a genuine, really low budget action from that era. Okay, yeah. There's a point right at the start where the two martial artists just sort of cross, they jump across each other and they land kind of awkwardly and it doesn't look cool at all. Yeah.

I enjoy his terrible lines. There's a moment where a woman fires a rocket launcher at him and it clearly switches to a really obvious stunt double, which is good. I also think it's interesting, and I guess this is true of the Johnny Cage character, that he's actually a good martial artist. He is, yeah. I guess in some versions of Mortal Kombat He goes into the Mortal Kombat tour to prove that he actually is a good martial artist as opposed to You know a fraud a Hollywood fraud absolutely and sometimes his powers are special effects gimmicks that he's not real special yes some

Which Mortal Kombat it's in with it's in one of the I mean I that was probably a combat for? Which Mortal Kombat? It's in one of the... I mean, that was probably... Mortal Kombat 4? The best Mortal Kombat? No, I don't think it was. I think it was in... it's probably in one of the instruction manuals. So it's almost certainly, like, not canonical. But sometimes he has shadow magic, sometimes... Doesn't he do that thing where he throws a ball from underarm? Yeah, but that's a ball. And he also does the splits and punches with the balls. I mean, that's real. You can't get a special effect guy to do that.

No, exactly. Anyway, looks fun. I think this might be a good Mortal Kombat movie. The last one wasn't even a Mortal Kombat movie. That's correct. I mean, you know. We did say it. Once they go over that tipping point of it actually being a Mortal Kombat tournament. Been a while. Correct. It's been a goddamn long time. When is that, when is Mortal Kombat out? Is it this year? Yes, 2025. Also, there is a movie called Caged Fury, now that I've googled it. Okay. It's from 1990.

This comes out October 24th. Ooh. That's something to talk about with your friends. And there was a movie from 1983 called Caged Fury. I wonder if Cole Young is going to return as Armadillo Man. I hope so. Australia's own Cole Young. Mr. Armadillo, Mr. Golden Armadillo. Is he Australian? I think so. I think it kind of is Australian. Let me check. Lewis Tan's Australian, isn't he? I think so. Australia's own Cole Young. Mr Armadillo. Mr Golden Armadillo. Is he Australian?

I think so. I think it goes Australian. Let me check. Lewis Tan's Australian, isn't he? I think so. No, he's from the UK. Oh boo. I mean, he was born in the UK.

Support rescinded. Yeah. Oh, he's Shatterstar. That's right. Anyways. All right. We also got a trailer. Yes.

For Stranger Things Season 9. That's right. We've had a season every year since it came out. Uh-huh. And we finally get, just kidding, this is Season 3. That was a good We've had a season every year since it came out. Uh huh. And we finally get, just kidding, this is Season 3. That was a good joke. No, it's Season 5 actually. Uh huh, yes.

So yeah, people have made the comparison between, I think we've even talked about it, where how many things have come out between this season and the last. That's right. All of the bear, probably both of Severin's seasons somehow, even though that, we'll want to talk about that in a minute, a bunch of other stuff. Why does this take so long? I mean, I know it's pretty special effects heavy. What's going on?

These kids are men. They're all men. Even the women are men. That's right. I think it's, I mean, it wouldn't shock me if, you know, David- Contractually? Like they're doing other stuff? Yeah, I think like David Harbour, especially in Billy, Billy Bobby Brown, are

probably doing other stuff. And the other guys, you know. The kids doing Ghostbusters or whatever? Some of the kids are doing stuff. Yeah, I think they've got, and you know, I suspect they're, you know, a lot of these- Billy Bobby Brown is married. Yeah, to one of the Bon Jovis. The one of the Joves.

One of the Joves. What's the best Bon Jovi song would you say? One of Dead or Alive. That's a good song. Or... One of his cowboy songs. That's a good choice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, yeah. I think In These Arms is good. Uh-huh. I know people say ballads. They'll say Baird of Roses. Yeah. But I'm impartial to Always. Yeah.

If I had to pick a ballad of the two. Do you like It's My Life? No. What about Have a Nicer Day? No, I don't like that at all. That's not a good one. It's like It's My Life but not as good. Are you looking up Bon Jovi's songs? Of course I am. Yeah, no, it's One of Dead or Alive probably. Okay. Always as good as well. He's a devil on the run, a six gun lover who gambles in the wind. So true, isn't it? Yeah. Anyway, Linda Hamilton's in this. Was she? Yeah, she's in the trailer. Oh, great. Good for her.

Didn't we recently find out she's got $ got 70 million dollars. I think it was 85 million dollars. From divorcing James Cameron. That's right. Well done. Didn't even marry him. Didn't even want to. We also see the upside down of course. That's right. The upside down, everything's upside down. Yes. We see gooey stuff obviously. So much gooey stuff. We see those creatures where their face opens. We see a few of those. Demogorgons. Yeah, Vekna is in it. He returns and he's like, I'm back. I'm Vekna. Yeah, I mean, first of all, I like all the people involved, generally. We see what's his name is Grave.

He's now Johnny Storm. That guy got super famous between seasons. He did, yeah. Whatever his name is. He had time to do multiple. He was in a Gladiator sequel. He's in the Fantastic Four movie, which has been in production forever. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Like you said, I think all the people involved are doing other stuff and they're all savvy enough like the kids are and their managers and what have you, to be like, we will not be locked into making the show when we could be making... And we hold off, we get more money. Yeah, exactly. I think that's the kind of thing that was common, I think, years ago is that people would be, they'd get a TV gig and they'd be like, they'd get offers to do movies for

more money and being seen by the movie going public and their bosses would be like, no, if you leave this, we can't bring you back or whatever. We're going to keep going no matter what. And I think the actors have wised up, which is good for them. Wised up and grown up, finally. Exactly. Good for them in their movie. They're all men. Good for them in their movie career, but bad for still being children in the Stranger Things

series, which they're not. They're all just there with their 30 years old with their overalls and their lollipops or whatever. They must be like college aged at least. They'd have to age. I think it's set in 87 this one. Okay, right. I would have thought they would have set it so it verges like, so it goes into the 90s. Like that's how it ends. But maybe it doesn't. Or maybe it does. Yeah, no, but also that being said, it's a pretty consistent show.

I really enjoyed the last season. I am looking forward to the end of this, which starts in November and then ends in like December and then New Year's or whatever. They're doing Christmas New Year's or something like that. Great. That is great. That means we won't do an episode on it because we'll be on break. Right.

And now, then why are we going to watch it? They're probably regretting their choices now. Absolutely. Yeah, man. You know? Yeah. But no, I guess it's going to be good to watch something but not have to. This will be the one buried season because we didn't plug it on the Weekly Planet podcast.

They'd be like, this is why the rain has stopped. Oh, yeah. We did an ad for the first season in 2016 before anybody had seen it. I remember watching it being like, I think this is really good. Is that why we like them? Because they did us a solid years ago. Maybe. Nearly a decade ago. Nine years ago.

Yeah. Yeah, I got my nephew involved. He's 18. Like he was a boy. Yeah. Now he's a man. He's like school captain. Yeah, right. Anyways.

Yeah. I was going to say, the thing that I was going to say, generally I like all this stuff, but I think think maybe the to me the the problem with this is there's never been a really strong villain like that's what the last season bought in yeah Vakna I remember yeah but I mean I don't really remember him as a character. Running up the hill etc and so forth okay well maybe this will rub a dub dub cement him in as the I thought he was a good villain. He was alright. And he could do the... he had Eleven's powers and whatever.

That's true. Mmm. And she looks like she does a big jump. She might do a big jump. I think there's like, her dad said she could fly in one season. She's probably gonna fly. Her real dad? Yeah, her real dad in real life.

He's just out there. Okay. Her step... actually her father-in-law Bon Jovi. Wow. Jon Bon Jovi. Wow. And Richie Sambora, who supports John Bon Jovi in all he does. Yeah. And the other guys. Yeah, yeah.

Whoever they are. Some guys in Bruce Springsteen's band. Yeah. The E Street. The E Street band, yeah. Yeah, cool man. Anyways, I just wanted to talk about how long- Stevie Vanzant.

That's what I was thinking of. Okay. And Max Weinberg. Okay. I want to talk about Okay. And Max Weinberg. Okay. I want to talk about this. All right. You can. You're free to do that.

Do you want me to leave? You might have to. Okay. So I want to talk about some other shows and how long they're taking. Okay. So apparently this is both these are via variety. Severance season three, cause that took three and a half years or whatever. Now is that going to be, is that three and done? Do we know?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know either. There was a writer's strike and a bunch of other stuff and probably COVID. I can't remember. But season seven, season three doesn't even have a production date. But they're saying that they don't want to have a three year gap like the last. But if you don't have a production date, I think you're going to be pushing that three

year release. Oh yeah. It might be two at the end of them. Yeah, might be so too. So you know, we'll see how that goes. Yeah. It took me a minute to like, what happened in this? Who's the what?

Was he running? Was he running in the end of the last one? Was anyone running up that hill? Where's Vekna? And the other is HBO CEO Casey Bloys confirmed that The Last of Us season three is definitely planned for 2027. And Craig Marsden is considering whether to make it into two seasons. Which means the entire thing would be The Last of Us part two, which to be fair is much longer than Last of Us part one, the game. It could be three seasons.

So are you up to date on the Last of Us both seasons? Yeah. I think I talked about it, but it ends in a really weird point because I got to the end and then I went, and then I forgot and I went, oh, I should finish that. And I went back and I rewatched the ending and I went, okay. And then I went, oh, I forgot to watch the ending and I did it again. I rewatched it twice. twice and as I talked about they're getting a little extra kind from you They must be but asked me what happened in the end. What happened? I have no fucking idea. I don't remember Yeah, so does it end on a cliffhanger? Oh, you know what it is. Don't spoil it for people over there No, I won't but it's Abby

There's gonna be a focus on the game does a thing where it switches to another right? Oh, yeah, but there's something before that. I can't remember what it was and you finished the game the second game Yep, how far too long how far into the game? Are we at this point? Ten twelve hours maybe on I mean and what percentage of the game is that no third which I guess makes sense for three So yeah, I don't remember that game went forever And there's a lot of hand holding and we'll walking around. They've crunched these numbers around. And people talking to you and they're like, I don't like this. The world's different now. I don't remember where it used to be other things. I don't remember that. I'm

a kid. Well, I remember a different time than now. I'll tell you that much. You think the next season's just going to be NPCs? It's just going to be NPC dialogue? Yeah. Boy, I'm glad they got their generator running. Yeah, I remember a different time. We didn't have generators. We had phones. We'd call each other and we'd go, hello, come around for dinner. Now we're getting a big mess all or whatever. Okay, old timer. We have wallaces, we don't have cars anymore. We're having a day. Hey, don't forget to put the water purification tablets in before you

drink. I don't want to do that. I don't believe in that. Okay, right. That's me talking, by the way. I know. I can tell you dropped out of character. Yeah. Okay. You took your character hat off. So that's how I know you're not in a character anymore. You notice? Yeah. You have to take the hat on. You put your character Kangol on. I thought I was doing that subtly. No, no, no, no, no. Interesting. Mason, this is real me talking. Now you predominantly bought the character Kangol to do your Samuel L. Jackson character. Do you want me to do it?

No, don't do it. Are you sure? I'm really good at it. I would really rather you didn't. Bruce Willis, let's run around. It's Die Hard 3. That was actually pretty good. Yeah, that's right. That was pretty good.

And I didn't even have the hat on. I was going to say. It was in me the whole time. I just imagined. What happened is there, I got the perfect flash of Die Hard 3 but you were in the movie instead of Samuel L. Jackson. It was so... It was that good.

I didn't need it! I know! Mason, let's do a bunch of DC stuff. You should take the sandwich board off by the way. I don't think you need that either. From Die Hard 3, you know the one. The one that says I hate everyone. No, it's the sensed version.

I wear the sensed version. Yeah, I know. Yeah. The one that says I hate everyone. NexusPoint News says the Clayface movie, this is a synopsis potentially. This is set in the DC but it's not a Batman movie. Apparently it's amazing scripted so that's why they're doing it. Hagen, who's one of the versions of Clayface, is a handsome up and coming actor who's attacked and disfigured.

So they've combined some characters, combined them, which works in the sense that the current comic book Clayface, I don't even know which one he is. He's like Nine Guys or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and sometimes it's a son of a couple of the other ones and sometimes just Clayface just shows up and they don't even explain who it is anyway. It doesn't matter. He's also in Crucifix Commandos, or A version. Originally from Gotham, he moves to Hollywood to escape his troubled past and begin his

career as an actor. With his disfigurement, his career and outlet as an actor is ruined and he eventually transformed into a shape-shifting monster. Just out of annoyance. No, no, there's like an experiment. They're like, we'll make it beautiful again. He's like, I'll do it. The substance.

The substance. Exactly. The film will feature- Grubstance. Yes. This is good. You'll like this. This film will not feature any other recognisable DC characters.

Hell yeah. We're going to do it in this Morbius style. We're doing this Joker style. Hell yeah. And will primarily consist of original it in this Morbius style. We're doing this Joker style. Hell yeah. And will primarily consist of original characters in this character driven horror movie. That's out September 11th, 2026. Interesting. Okay, I mean if it's as good as they say it is.

I mean, you know. It's a few months after Supergirl. James Gunn famously has said numerous times they're not putting anything into production until the script is finished. Yep. Because they don't want to do production until the script is finished. Yep. Because they don't want to do what Doomsday is doing right now. Yeah. Which is, is it Doomsday or Secret Wars?

Both. Okay. They're filming it right now, the third act isn't finished. They're still desperately, they've just got all the actors on set just standing there. And I think that's good. Until they figure out what's going on. And I heard Chris Hemsworth is getting a $50 million. He's getting a $50 million a day. Every day he stands there.

Sometimes I'll see him pour water on their laptop. Dude, come on. Destroy their script so he can be there for another day, get another $50 million. He loves that. He loves a $50 million. He really does. So that's good, I guess. He was at Wimbledon and he was wearing a half a million dollar watch.

What? Yeah. That's too much, man. I'd say it's not enough. Give million dollar watch. What? Yeah. That's too much, man. I say it's not enough. Give me that watch. Oh yeah. Hand it over. I'm the watch police and you've gone too far.

Well. Now let's talk some numbers in terms of Superman's debut. Now domestically, as in its US opening, it's done really well. It had 125 domestic debut, which is a little bit over than what we reported on. It had a $13 million Monday, a $17 million Tuesday. It's probably going to have about a 50 million US weekend. The weekend has gone because it is Monday, which is all good. So it's halt like domestically is probably going to end up between

on those three, three 50 maybe. Okay. But internationally it's not great. It's like, okay. That might stabilize. We saw it. Yeah, we saw it. And I paid for a ticket. I didn't pay for a ticket. I saw it for free, but I was allowed to.

Why isn't it crushing it? I don't know. Maybe it's just the international thing. But the other thing is, is we've talked about it doesn't need to make a... Well, James Gunn said, someone asked him if it needed to make $700 million to break even. he's like no, it's fine. And again, what I think they're looking for and they're doing a victory lap is a solid foundation. Yeah, they're re-establishing the universe. And they have that.

So that doesn't necessarily mean that this universe is going to kick off and be enormous. But this is as good as you can do really. Yeah, they're establishing this is what the world looks like. This is the existence of meta-humans and Superman is here and he's been around for a while and he is some of the major players, etc. So now the other writers presumably have a more solid foundation to work off. Yeah.

It's expected probably it'll top out at around probably 550 million, maybe a bit more. Again, it depends on how Fantastic Four is received and whatever and how that does. It could just tick along. It might just fall off a cliff. We don't know. That's Jurassic Well doing. Well, really well.

I bet it is. Yeah, so they always do. But also, Variety are saying, this is what they're saying. Although Warner Brothers. We at, they're all in unison. We at Variety. We at, we at, we at, we at, we at. Although Warner Brothers has sequel options on Cor unison. We at variety. We're at what we say. Although Warner Brothers has sequel options on Corrin Sweatt and Brosnahan, they got paid

$750,000 each. Nicholas Hall got $2 million. James Gunn got $15. Nice. What? I know, not enough. Not as good. A sequel announcement does not appear to be imminent.

Instead, sources say the studio is fast-tracking a Wonder Woman movie and the studio is thrilled that Matt Reeves just submitted screenplay draft for the sequel to The Batman, which also might be getting, The Penguin might be getting another season. When you say a screenplay draft, do you mean one in addition? Is this the second one or are we, this is old news, didn't he? I think it's the one that just happened, yeah. Okay, just happened? Yeah.

Or several weeks ago. You haven't done a second draft yet, Matt Reeves? Well, I don't know what he's doing I don't know what he's up to but slacking off. It sounds like the Slack Reeves there we go. That's something and we can all talk about it, but we can also talk about this You've got time to lean you got time to clean up your script first draft man Second draft. Yeah fast-tracking Wonder Woman. Okay, so there you go. See how that Yeah, Fast Tracking Wonder Woman. Okay, great. So there you go.

We'll see how that goes. Who's it gonna be? Who's it gonna be? Who's it gonna be? Who's it gonna be? Who's it gonna be? Oh, no, no. It's interesting they're not talking about that Brave and the Bold Batman movie, either.

Yeah, maybe they've dumped Andy Machete. They definitely have, but I mean, maybe the artist's gonna do the Pattinson Batman. Maybe, yeah. I mean, the Penguin Works, I just, I don't know, maybe they just should. Just out of desperation at the very least you know somebody Who's that guy somebody this week was like oh? He's a new guy that looks like Batman, and I'm like he does look like Batman His name's like Matt knee or something was in a mat me might be man. Is he in a Batman costume?

No, you just look like a man. Well you gotta look like a man. I'm looking up Matt Batman on Google to say Matt bat You should look up Matt Batman on Google to see if it's... Matt Bat. Mmm. You should look up MatPat. No. Me and MatPat have something in common. What's that? Defy media stole a shitload of money from us. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're always bringing that up. Probably a lot more.

I am not! But remember what I said if I ever meet the guy who did it? Remember what I said? Uh, you... I'm gonna open hand slap him. Oh great, okay, right. That's terrific. Well, Matt Batman hasn't resulted in any results, so...

Well, just look up Matt Knee. I don't think it's Matt Knee either. That's what you said. I know, but I'm stupid. Is it K-N-E-E? It's not any of those things. His name isn't Matt Knee. You said Matt Knee.

I know. I said it was like Matt Knee. Do you like it when Superman is taller than Batman? Nate Man. His name's Nate Man. That's what he looks like. I know I said it was like matinee. Do you like it when Superman is told and Batman Nate man? His name is Nate man. It's what he looks like. Yeah, that's a good-looking Batman He looks like the Dan Mora Bruce Wayne. So fuck man. This guy looks so much He looks better than that other guy that everyone's been saying when Brandon's sclera. Yeah. Yeah, dude This guy looks so much like fucking Batman. It's crazy. Right? And he looks like this in every photo also. Yeah.

Who is this guy? I don't know, man. I mean, it's not just the thing to look like a... Yeah, I mean, you need more than that, don't you, obviously? Yeah. How tall is he? He's five foot three. You can work around that.

That's right. We'll do it with angles and boxes and so forth. Yeah. I was in Licorice Pizza, Masters of the Year. I saw some of that. Yeah. Let's see height. He says he's five, oh of that. Yeah, let's see height says he's fought Oh, no, that's a basketball. There's a baseball guy. He's five eight. I'm like, I guess

He's born in 99. He could be six one maybe but they don't they don't know. Okay, so that's okay, but that's lies height Obviously. Yeah, I like it. It's got kind of an old-school look. Yeah All right. All right, Matt knee for super for Batman and Superman. Whatever. Hashtag Matt knee. Let's get that going. They'll never find that's yeah. No, I was going to say every tweet at James Gunn, but don't do that. We did that once. Yeah. Also, he's on threads or whatever. Yeah. I don't know if you can contact anybody on that. I've no idea how it works. Anyway, I just wanted to clarify something I said in the review last week. Remember I said that the Kevin Costner stuff, that the parent stuff in that is better than in the new movie?

Did you? Yeah, I did. Which is an insane thing to say because I did not specify. Probably because you distracted me with the Austin Powers when you brought Austin Powers in, which is a thing you do. You brought... I didn't bring him in. Then how's he get in? I don't know. I thought you brought him in.

I didn't bring him in. Isn't he your friend? He parachuted in. He gave you a shaguar. Yeah, I know. I thought that was just because. I didn't bring him in. Isn't he your friend? He parachuted in. He gave you a shag you are. Yeah, I know. I thought that was just because he does that to everybody. Does he not? I mean, he might.

He didn't give you one. That's interesting. I did. It is interesting, isn't it? Yeah. Anyway, I said that I didn't feel like the emotional, I don't even know why I said this, but didn't feel as emotional. And look.

Did you get some flack on this? Yeah, and rightfully so, because Kevin Costner's version of that character is, I don't even know why I said this, but didn't feel as emotional. And look- Did you get some flack on this? Yeah, and rightfully so, because Kevin Costner's version of that character is like, don't save anybody, who cares? I'm specifically talking about that scene where he's talking- Don't save anyone, especially don't save me. Anyway, off to jump into a tornado. That's right.

I'm specifically talking about that scene where he's talking to young Clark Kent, and he's explaining where he comes from, and he's like, can I just be your son or whatever? And he's like, you are my son. I'm talking about that scene where he's talking to young Clark Kent and he's explaining where he comes from and he's like Can I just be your son or whatever and he's like you are my son I'm talking about that scene and one that one scene I think is just incredible and I don't think the new Superman movie matches that one scene that the parents stuff But they're good. The new Superman has Park and he's always kicking the door and he's like, it's windy out Clark. You gotta save me Clark you gotta promise me Clark if there's a got to save me. Clark, you got to promise me. Clark, if this is torn out, you save me, all right?

Leave your mother. Leave your mother there. You save me. Dad, chill, will you? But I will. Anyways, podcaster Neil Vagg said he attended- Excuse me? Neil Vagg said he attended-

How am I spelling that? V-A-G-G. All right. You got a problem with that? I don't have spell that? V-A-G-G. All right. You got a problem with that? I don't have any problem with that. I just needed some clarification. You happy you got your clarification? No.

God. He attended a screening of Superman that included a Q&A. A QAnon? Uh-oh. Just hear them out. That's all I'm saying. Just be open. Yep.

Just be open to all of you. All right? James Gull was there for a Q&A. Apparently James Gull- Gull and Vagg. Yep. Just be open to all of you. All right? James Gunn was there for a Q&A. Gunn Vag. Yeah. James Gunn mentioned that the mural that we saw in the Hall of Justice includes a famous actor in one of the roles, but he didn't specify who. Okay.

Now last week you said- I gave a list. You gave a list. Was that a list? Did it turn out to be accurate? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Terrific.

Anyways, people are saying Pierce Brosnan is Dr. Fate. I would love that. And that's the only, that's what I want. I don't care about anything else. That, people are saying Pierce Brosnan is Dr. Fate. I would love that. And that's the only, that's what I want. I don't care about anything else. That thing, it would be great. That would be great, yeah. Yeah. Why not?

Yeah. If The Rock can turn up in the DCU, which he is definitely. Definitely he's coming back. Why can't Pierce Brosnan turn up again? So, you know, anyway. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, anyway.

So, anyway. Yeah, that would be good. That'd be good. It also might not mean anything. It's like, it might even be a famous actor who's dead might be Henry Winkler as Adam smash's dad Oh, that's a smash Adam smash Adam smash. Oh It's last bit of news, all right, there's a first look poster Well, there was also there was some other first looks at this is a spoiler for Superman

Oh for the current the movie currently in yes for Superman. Okay, so if you haven't seen Superman yet, bit of a miss. Give this a miss. Give this a miss. That movie wasn't a miss, it was a hit. There's a poster for Supergirl, and the poster says look up, but they have spray paint over the up.

It says look out, because she's there. She's trouble. But she's not drinking an alcohol, she's drinking a slushie or something. But in the movie she turns up drunk because she's been drinking alcohol.. She's drinking a slushy or something. Yeah, but in the movie She's cut turns up drunk cuz she's drinking. I think it's a nice coffee or uh, is this blue It's a blue iced coffee. Blast coffee. Blast coffee. I've coffee. Yes. Mm-hmm. All right

Maybe it's a slice coffee right the power of one That's true. Yes, Australia's own blist coffee Yeah, also it is a it's a it's an the costume has been redesigned I think. From the movie? Yeah, even so. They've changed the boots a little bit. Okay. It's good.

Now let me ask you this. Does she have spray paint on her hands or blood? Oh yeah, I didn't even notice. Okay. I don't know. Because I mean maybe she did, presumably. Oh yeah, she would have done that. Or she's been, I mean she might have done both.

True. She might have spray painted that sign and she's been in a fist fight recently. Both are fine and good. Both are fine, yeah. Cool. Anyway, that's out June 26th, 2026. I'm excited for that. Me too, very much so. The director of that also did Corrella and I, Tonya.

I, Tonya is good. So is Corrella, I think, for what it is. I've been saying it. A director, DVD, Disney streaming thing, or whatever. Apology for a villain. Correct. To prove they never did anything wrong in the film. It's a very unhinged movie.

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Okay, well this is a hot topic of course because Superman obviously was going to be called Superman legacy originally, and I think there's still some remnants of that in that movie. There are characters who are, you know, they are, they are. It's mostly legacy characters. Yeah, there are characters who are somehow in the shadow of a previous version We've got Green Lantern. Yep, who's you know, like the lives of it or four Yeah lives in the shadow of Hal Jordan and John Stewart and etc. Yeah, Hawke girls obviously got Hawke man Well, though, we don't see him yet. Maybe we'll never get him. Mr. Terrific is second. Mr. He's the second. Mr. Terrific. Exactly Yeah

Engineer in the movie is not so much based on the original character, but the comic book version of that She's the second engineer nanobots nanobots exactly and so on and so forth. That's right Superman is of course living in the legacy of his horny dad. That's right. He's like get out there I'm Bradley Cooper. I was in the movie burnt Remember that yes, like the bear but not as good. Yeah I remember. Probably. I didn't see it. Yeah.

It's so hard to be a sexy chef. Moist. But I'm nailing it though. Yeah. And women. And women, yeah. I have seen it in my life. But is that enough?

Is that enough in life? Ultimately, yes. For him I think so. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm a scumbag? And I'm a scumbag maybe. What happens in that movie?

I don't know. I haven't seen it. We should watch that movie. I don't think we should. I agree. So yeah, legacy characters are basically a second or third incarnation of a character. Now, what was that thing you found on Twitter that you explained to me, which I quite like? Well, here's someone.

Also, get off Twitter, what are you doing? No, I love it. XGuardianAngel7 on Twitter said, the idea of legacy characters can be quite broad, but they fall under four different categories that are quite easy to see. Well we'll see about that. Sidekicks, replacements, children of heroes and generational heroes.

But also somebody added to that, Green Sage S said this thread is flawed, first of all rude. But I correct. Because you forgot about the fifth category which is previous generation legacies. When a mantle is retconned to have a previous incarnation before its original counterpart absolutely so like the Phantom But not really no not at all chance what you've said there is insane talk about Batman's dad Yeah, like sometimes. You know some of the old Batman stories It'll be like yeah, well you think I was the original Batman But when my dad was young he put on a vaguely bat related costume and he had an adventure also.

We are really, we are desperate for stories here at DC. That's right. We will say or do anything. Or like you know the Avengers have, the Avengers 1 million BC. Yeah. Where it's all the previous, it's you know the ancestors of previous Avengers. Also 1 million, come on. Evidently.

Get real. That says roughly. Okay that's alright then. Yeah, that's fine. What's the human race? What, like 250,000 years old or something? Like current incarnation? Yeah, well, but then it was also Odin.

Odin was... Zenzino Man Set. Anyway... The 90s, baby. I think it's interesting, and we can start with this or with whatever, but the MCU is currently working its way through. It's finding its place,

the place of new legacy characters. But also there's characters like Ant-Man, who the version of this is a legacy character when he shows up. So Scott Lang is not the first Ant-Man canonically. Even Iron Fist is the same. Would you say that the MCU is speed running legacy characters and is that to its detriment? I think it has to because actors age out. That's correct. Yes. And comic. Actors age out and also they start to demand a 50 million dollars.

And so you can't always. Can't provide a 50 million dollars. Can't always provide a 50 million dollars. So tell me if you think any of these are better. Okay. Black Widow. Because I think the second Black Widow is better than the first. I mean she has more depth.

Yeah. Is that just because she's depressed? Well she's depressed but also I think it's a byproduct of the era when she came in as opposed to when Scarlett Johansson came in. That is probably true, you're right. When Scarlett Johansson was Black Widow they just needed kind of a sexy espionage character to sneak in as the secretary. Sexpionage.

Thank you. And so she never had a full length movie so it was kind of like she just shows up. She's in a cool action sequence. And then they made a full length movie after she died, which is set between some other movies. That's correct, yes. Yeah. Captain America is currently Sam Wilson. Correct, yes. I think they just, they took their time with this, but not in a way where like it felt like they were building towards it. There was a whole TV show of like, I don't know if I want to do this. And then the movie is like, I don't know whether I want to do this. And it's like, dude, you're

currently doing it. Yeah, you currently, you are fighting the president and he has turned into a giant red rage monster. Lock in brother. What are you doing? It's time now. Take the serum. Yeah. What are you doing? You got magic bird wings. There's serum everywhere. Just call up Stark Industries. They'll overnight you some serum right now. They'll send a little drone. You won't even have to do anything. It will just shoot it into you.

But no, I don't think it's working that well, to be honest. I think he's charming and fun. There's also Second Falcon now, of course, which is fine, I guess. But I don't love it, to be honest. I think he's charming and fun. There's also Second Falcon now, of course, which is fine, I guess. But I don't love it, to be honest. And also, it doesn't help. Because the movie's not great. The movie was fine, you know? And it was also a Hulk sequel. Well, again, you're right. I'm 100% not Anthony Mackie's fault. If that movie were as well crafted as the previous Captain America movie, because he's great in the Captain America movies he's in. I think there's some really good stuff in that Falcon and Winter Soldier show as well, which again gets retreaded and Bucky

turns up and goes, I believe in you. It's like, yeah, I fucking heard you the first time you said it in our TV show that we did. Yeah. When they were- What do you think? I have Falcon poop in my ears? Maybe. I don't because I don't have a pet falcon. I don't have a real falcon bucky. Pay attention. Great show.

Great. Good writing. I agree. Except when they had the freedom fighters just blow up that orphanage. Oh, yeah, that's right. To prove they're evil, you know. Hulk. Well, there's Red Hulk and also he has a son.

But I mean, is Red Hulk a legacy character? I don't think so, no. Okay. Pass? Pass. I'm saying smash or pass. Oh, still pass. But there's Amadeus Cho, who's the totally awesome Hulk.

Yeah, but he's not. He's a legacy character. Yeah, but he's not in the- Oh, we're only doing movies. Oh, no, no, no, we definitely will, but I'm just talking about the MCU just for now. Black Panther, I mean, that's a terrible situation. So that's a legacy character. And a terrible Black Panther is what you're saying?

No, I think what's interesting about that is that she shouldn't be Black Panther. And so it has to become Black Panther. I think that is interesting, but they had to do that, obviously. I like Hailey Steinfeld's second Hawkeye. I agree too. The second Thor, Jane Foster. She diediley Steinfeld's second Hawkeye. I agree too. The second Thor Jane Foster. She died though. So it's just regular Thor again.

Just back to Thor. He's passed the mantle back to himself. And with Christian Bale's daughter. Captain Marvel, who is Ms. Marvel. Is that a legacy situation? No. Yeah. Although, no.

In the comics it's... No, still no. She turns into Captain Marvel. Sure. Remember that in the comics? She turns into Captain Marvel. Sure. Remember that in the comics? She takes on the thing. Eagly. Uh huh, yes.

But she's fun. Anyway, let's do some... I mean, I guess, well, here's the thing though. I don't think legacy characters necessarily have to have the same powers, Ava. No, I agree. I mean, Spider-Woman's... You don't have to have the same powers to work here, but it helps. It helps.

Well, Spider-Woman's... Nobody's nerfed Kamala Khan. ...Summer Magic, right? Sorry, what? Spider-Woman's Summer Magic and Summer whatever. Summer Magic, that's true, yes. You know. Summer magic, right? Sorry, what? Spider woman. Summer magic and summer whatever. That's true, yes. You know? Uh huh, yeah.

So you know. Some of them have no powers at all except in a dream. What are you talking, oh. The movie Madden Webb. The movie Madden Webb, yes. Maybe they'll never have powers because that universe has never come. Anyway, she's Hawkeye now, one of them is. Isabella Mercer is, yes, that's right.

Yeah, and that's way better. I used to be complaining that she was doing a bird scream. She's a bird lady. She's'm like, she's a bird lady. Bird lady, man. Pay attention. Yeah. She's called bird lady. Yeah, that's right.

She's called Ms. Bird lady. Yeah. Now, um, don't talk about Batman. Cause I know you're talking about going like the different versions of legacy characters that you typed, that you named. I think Batman has done literally all of them. Absolutely. Yeah. Cause there's literally all of them. Absolutely, yeah.

Because there's Terry McGinnis, who's a... He's not the son of Bruce Wayne, but it turns out he is, because he's a clone or something. Because his father got some sort of experiment done on him that turned his semen into Bruce Wayne semen. Hell yeah. Sorry, sperm. I don't know what his semen is like. Hell yeah. But I guess he's technically... Everybody should watch Batman Beyond.

It's good. And that movie. Terry McGinnis is also, he's called Batman of the future. So I don't know if that counts. In the future he's called Batman of the present day though. The Batman of the present day of now. Yeah, you know with flying cars and whatever we have. Yeah, which we call regular cars. We call the other cars cars on the ground.

Regular cars, cars on the ground. That's right call the other cars cars on the ground Regular cars cars on the ground. That's right old timey cars in the ground How do you feel about like as real because he stepped in with that was that supposed to be a legacy character? Was that just on the road to another thing? Well, well James here we go. Well because when because That happened because the breaking of Batman's back which we saw of course in in the Dark Knight rises correct but when it happened in the comic books that was a direct reaction to Superman dying and then coming back in the comics they're like this did really well sales wise yeah so let's do another thing we can't kill Batman because he's just regular and he can't come back from that

can't do it not currently no current No. Current Batman, modern day Batman probably could. Mm. But if I remember correctly, because there was a novelization of Nightfall, which was the storyline that happened in, and I remember in the forward to that, one of the writers was like, we are going to give you a, we're going to give you the readers what they think they want, which is a modern Batman that is really, which is cool, cool stuff and he's really extreme. But by the end of this you won't want him because he's insane also, obviously. But I

still think he was real cool. He was super cool. I think he looks stupid. Do you remember when his suit got all set on fire and then it got put out and he turned red? Yeah. Remember that? And he would like, he didn't throw shurikens, he like shot them. Yeah, he had machine gun arms and a flamethrower. Yeah.

Yes. He wasn't really Batman at that point, even. No, he was a demon in a suit of armour, is what he was. Man, I loved, I was a big fan of Azrael. Yeah, okay. Jean Paul Valley. Is he still running around? I don't know what he's doing.

Not really. He was a knight of Dumas or something. Yeah, and he had monkey DNA. So he's really, he's a legacy monkey. He's a legacy monkey in a way. Maybe he's one of the Red Ghosts friends. Okay great. I don't know what his current continuity is because he's in the Arkham games. He is, you run into him briefly. But I think that, I don't know, for whatever reason or another he hasn't really returned. He's due for a Batman returns. Put him in the movies. I agree.

I think he's a fun, insane character to put in. But also like, there's other, like a bunch of Robins have taken it on. In the future, Damien Wayne becomes like a demon possessed Robin with the X in the bowels. That's right. Dick Grayson does a comic book, what's it called? It's called Black Mirror or Dark Mirror. What is it?

It's by Scott Snyder. Black Dark. Yeah, Black Dark. This is before he did the new 52 run, where it's Dick Grayson as Batman because Batman's out of town for whatever reason. Maybe he got his back broken again. And Dick Grayson, he doesn't care whether he's Batman or not. He's just doing it because Batman's not there. Yeah, right. Uh-huh.

And I think his version of Batman is great as well. There is, I can't remember if it's a Nightwing issue or a Batman issue, but there's an issue where Batman takes over from Nightwing. Oh, okay. The costume doesn't really fit. He's too big. And he's too big and he's kind of like, he's got too much, he's got the exhausted old man look

with the stubble or whatever and he's like, yeah, it was great, no, he even quipped a couple of times. Nobody will notice. It's totally fine. Do you see him do any of that? Or he just... You do see, yeah you do, yeah. That's great. What happened to Azrael? Let me check. There's also been a couple of Azraels. Let's scroll

quickly. Couple a day. There's a post Flashpoint version. God, this is a long article. God, wait till we get to the Flash. DC Rebirth. Dude, I don't have time for this. No, nobody does. I'm on the phone.

I don't know, man. He's just dropped off. He's not in the main Bat books, so I don't know what's going on there. The Bat books. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen to yourself. I know. Also, Batman's dad was a Batman in another dimension. Is that true?

Yeah. Batman's... Did I make that up? I thought I made that up. No, no. Batman's dad became Batman in the universe. Oh, the Flashpoint Batman. The Flashpoint Batman.

Of course, yeah. But it's not the same dimension, Batman. Yeah. Also, I think he dressed... In one of the old stories, like Batman. Yeah. Also I think he dressed in one of the old stories like the 1950s stories I think he dressed up as Batman like at a Halloween party or something and he stopped a crime. Dude that's hilarious. That is good stuff. He was like I'm just wearing a bat costume. Anyway that's all the Batmans.

What about should we do all the Robins? I've got to say Robins are good to do. I mean it's a legacy character because Batman keeps burning through them and then they change their name. Yeah yeah. That's right. Some stick with him some don't. I mean, it's a legacy character because Batman keeps burning through them and then they change their name. Yeah, yeah. That's right. Some stick with him, some don't. I mean, mostly.

At this point, they've all stuck by him, really. Well, yeah, I know, but they run off and become a Red Hood or whatever. Well, he died. But yeah, he just keeps filling those pointy green boots. Yeah, yeah. And the timeline never quite works out because the DC universe is always reset. So it's like, well, Batman started fighting crime 10 years ago and it's like, well, you've got time for six Robins, do you?

Yeah. In that 10 years. You just picked up a bunch of 12 year olds and you just kept... Apparently. Yeah, but they... So I didn't even know who his current Robin is. It goes back and forth. So mostly it's Damian Wayne, but Tim Drake, the third Robin is just sometimes around.

But you don't like that, that they pushed Tim Drake aside? Because they gave a lot of his stuff to Damien Wayne, right? No, what I don't like about, because so for people that don't know this, there's Dick Grayson, the original one, he's the Burt Ward version in the 60s Batman. Then there was Jason Todd, who originally had exactly the same origin as Dick Grayson where he was a trapeze artist and his parents were killed and then like this is this is dumb and so that when they reset the universe and crosses of infinite as they were like now actually he's an orphan street tough or whatever. He got killed and he stayed dead for like 20 years and he came back as

He was killed due to a fan poll. Yeah, when people called in to kill him Which is my low stakes conspiracy theory as you know I don't think it was real okay yeah and I know there's there's one panel there's one other panel that is that proved he know that because the James the story is we've done a whole episode did we I think on Robin in particular we certainly cover we certainly cover it but I so the the the story is that what the editor at Denny O'ill, who was the Batman group editor at the time, is like, well, I had two versions of the comic here, one where he lived and one when he died, and which one we're going to publish, right? And it's the evidence that has since been,

you can get it in the trade paperback edition. It's just one page and it's Batman holding Robin's body. And instead of going, oh, he's dead. He's like, he's alive. And he's like, but it looks, isn't it like the same image? Yeah, it's the same. Just the, like, change the mouth. They just changed the mouth from sad to happy. I'm like, I think this, I think they did it in the, I think this is a modern thing. Yeah.

I think they've done this. I think they always intended to kill him. I agree, I think they were always going to kill him. Because what, what is- What's interesting about not killing him? Yeah, what's interesting about all superheroes face certain death and they live like they do every week kind of thing, you know what I mean? Yeah, he's one of the few characters also that they brought back from death that was interesting. That's true, yeah. It's got a really compelling narrative.

So anyway, but what you were saying is so Tim Drake was the replacement and he got the modern Robin look. He didn't get the short pants. He got the long pants and the like the armor plated suit and the staff and he got the cape that's yellow on the inside but black on the outside So he's stealthy. He got the cool look and then when they did Batman in the animated series and when they did a bunch of other stuff they gave Dick Grayson that look. Yeah, I think that's annoying And now Damien Wayne is a bunch of that stuff as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah and a pet dragon or whatever. Yeah, sure And then Stephanie Brown is the one we always forget. She's also been Batgirl. She was Robin. She's spoiler. She was spoiler. She was spoiler who's the daughter of the Clue Master. Yeah.

Because she was always spoiling his crimes. Oh no. And then she became Robin and then she was killed but not really. Yep. And then she came back as Batgirl. I don't know what she is now. I think still Batgirl. Don't know. Okay great. Yeah. There's a bunch of Batgirls as well. Yeah, there's her and there's Cassandra Cain. Yeah. But still Batgirl. And Ruby Innes. Not Ruby Innes, what's her name?

Ruby Rose. Ruby Rose. Ruby Innes. I mean, I'd be full for that, Mason. So that's all Robins. We did an episode on it. Yeah. Do you want to do Spider-Man?

Sure. So there's Miles Morales, there's Doc Ock, who became the superior Spider-Man. But I guess he's a really legacy character because he's just Doc Ock in the mind of Spider-Man. I don't know, does that count? Or does that fit in your fucking Twitter poll or whatever? There's Ben Reilly. Correct, yes. Others, I don't know.

And there's a bunch of Spider-Women's, etc. What was Spider-Man's mom and dad up to back in the olden days? Probably doing Spider-Man stuff. In Spider-Man, Ultimate Spider-Man at the moment, his son doesn't have spider powers but he has the Venom symbiote. Correct, yes. So that's happening at the moment. Venom's another one.

There's been Flash became, there was Venom Venom and then Flash became Venom and whatever. Yeah, that's right. We've reached that point where the legacy characters are getting their own legacy spin-offs. I think Ben Riley is probably the the the most Involved and convoluted legacy character there. I mean, I mean, I wouldn't say yeah I definitely it wasn't as the most popular that would be more. Who do you think is better of the big two? Who do you think is better at handling legacy characters? Because they seem to have, Marvel seemed to have adopted this idea of, well, there's a bunch, we're just going to do a bunch of each version of this character. Yeah.

And they all exist simultaneously and just don't worry about it. That's true. Sometimes they team up. They've done that with Spider-Man and a lot of people are mad about that. We saw that in the movies. That's true. There's two Wolverines, obviously. Sometimes there's three.

We saw that in the movies. That's true. Sometimes, so there's Wolverine and then there's Laura, who is also Wolverine. Sometimes his other son is Wolverine also. Dacken? Yeah. Or the other one. There might be four Wolverines. But they're always just like, yeah, they're Wolverine. Obviously Captain America. They're always just Captain America. I think Sam Wilson is still

Captain America in the comics. I don't know. They're like, you know what? There was Wilson is still Captain America in the comics. I don't know. They're like, you know what? There was one irreplaceable shield, but now there's... I think they had to do it because for the movies. Yeah, for sure. Because if you open a comic, if you go to a comic shop or whatever, you want to be able to pick up a new Captain America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's the same as the movie, yeah. Nick Fury. I don't like that one. Why not? It's fucking... I think it's so funny. It's stu... I mean, no, I don't... You know what? It's not stupider than anything else, but they just wanted to make him look like the movies. Yes

Okay, John, okay, so Nick Fury looks like David Hasselhoff in the comics Yes, and in the ultimate universe before it everyone knows this before the movies He looked exactly like Samuel L Jackson who I do a great impression of that's right Um sign or no sign, hat or no hat. But for some reason Marvel was like, well in the mainline continuity, people are going to open up a regular comic and be like, why does Nick Fury look like David Hasselhoff? I know we'll give him a son who looks like a young Sam Jackson. And he's also Nick Fury.

And he's also named Nick Fury, but he's Nick Fury Jr. And also he was also in S.H.I.E. SHIELD, but he didn't know his dad was Nick Fury. Yeah. And then he became the head of SHIELD and then original Nick Fury got chained up on the moon. It's a really roundabout... He's back from the moon, by the way. Yeah. It's a really roundabout way to... Yep.

But also it's all... They should have just given him the turn the punish your black surgery. I agree! That they made the punish your black with and he was black for a while and then it wore off and he's just regular again. It just feels like chasing trends in desperation. And it also, I don't think it gives people enough credit to be like, they're gonna know, they're gonna, like, Kingpin was black in Daredevil.

They used to add just like a little text box, like a little editor's note or whatever to be like, hey true believers, you thought he was black, but he's not. Unless he's not. Nuff said. Nuff said. Smilin's from Smilin's Stand. Yeah. I'm still alive in the comics, by the way.

Yeah. I mean, people understand that casting is different in movies. I think they do. I think they know anything. You know, I don't know. It's whatever. There's two Nick Fury's running around now, I guess. Yeah. Oh, they're running. And they're both head of shield or strapped to the moon. I don't know. I don't know, it's whatever. There's two Nick Fury's running around now, I guess. Yeah.

Oh, they're running. And they're both head of S.H.I.E.L.D. or strapped to the moon, I don't know. I don't know what they're at. I think that's also one of those things where editors in general don't, and creators just don't know. Like I bet if you picked up two comic books

that came out this month that have S.H.I.E.L.D. in them, one would have black Nick Fury and one would have white Nick Fury because they just don't know. Yeah, okay. And they probably go, and they're like, I've got to draw Nick Fury, which one should I draw? And the email just doesn't come back. So they just flip a coin and go whatever. Draw them both. I try. Yeah, that's right. It's both in their handcuff together.

Yeah, draw them in shadow. You can't tell who it is. Yeah. God, there we go. That's fun, isn't it? Now, a lot of times there's like a future version of something. Yeah. So like there's Marvel of the future, Marvel 2099. Yeah. We got Spider-Man 2099, others. Aunt May 2099.

Exactly. Uncle Ben 2099. Nick Fury Jr. 2099. Exactly. Yeah. But also Nick Fury Sr. 2099. 2099, exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. I haven't read a lot of those. Ravage 2099. Sure. That was just a guy. He was new. It was a new guy? Yeah, yeah.

Okay, great. He was Ginger. Yeah. And DCF? He was Ginger. He lived in a bin. He was a corporate guy. Ginger in a bin?

Yep. He was a corporate guy and then he changed his ways and he became a champion of the oppressed and he lived in a bin. And then he became like a- Did he live in a literal bin? he lived in a bin. And then he became like a... Did he live in a literal bin? He lived in a bin adjacent area. Sewer adjacent? Yeah. And then he got, became a beast man.

Wow. Yeah. That's great. Stanley wrote that one. Yeah, he sounds like he did. Could have told you that. And DC, I mean, they have a bunch of future characters. They've got a future justice. We see that in the cartoons where it's like, it's like future Batman and Superman, but he's a bit older and whatever.

But then there's like DC 1 million, which is a whole other situation. I know you love this. Of legacy characters, I love potential future, potential far future characters because they can do anything they want and there are no consequences and when somebody says what happened to that you go. Well actually was a potential future So yeah, it got changed, you know a butterfly flapped its wings or whatever and it changed the future. So well It's different now. It gives it gives a chance for creators to just go nuts Yeah, just muck around a bit of a muck around and they'll eat the regular team They'll come back in time and Superman will try it. Superman from the future will go to his fortress,

but he can't open because he doesn't have enough Kryptonian DNA or whatever happens. Am I correct in that assumption? You are correct in that assumption. I remember you told me that years ago and I went, whoa, comics are crazy. But now you know comics are just normal. There's a white-neck fury? That's right. Who allowed this? Not for long. So, Green Lantern though, I mean this is crazy. Alan Scott, Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Kyle Rainer, Guy Gardner, whoever the girl is at the moment. And the frickin rest.

Well there's the galaxies are split into 3600 sectors, so however many you need. I don't know what the rest of everyone else is doing. It's like all the shit is happening on Earth. Yeah, they seem to- Or they're going to visit Oa, and they're like, something mysterious has befallen. Can you give us any more details? No.

Hal Jordan, you have to fix it though, whichever one. Yeah. Whichever one. It seems like they hire a lot of guys from Earth, is all I'm saying, right? Yeah. And all at once. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a situation similar to Marvel, where they're Earth, is all I'm saying, right? And all at once. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a situation similar to Marvel where they're all mostly existing at the same time. Yeah, you know what it is.

I reckon it's some aliens are always slacking off. And they're like, no, I don't get that. But what's your opinion of the comics though? Oh, James. And they're just like, I bet Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart and Guy Gartner are like, gotta go for back, gotta go back up these guys, do I? Cause they're not, you know, God, all right, more work for me.

They're the guys in the office that they got known for getting stuff done. And so now everybody slacks off and they have to do, they have to, they come, the other guys don't get a talking to for not doing enough work. They just get assigned. Was there ever a point though, where it was, there was one Green Lantern ring for the sector Earth and whatever, and then that was it? I mean originally, in the- Like how long did that last? 20 years? Okay. Yeah, but then, but there's also, there's always a backup as well. Okay. So what happens is that the Green Lantern dies and their ring flies around and it goes, I need a worthy successor.

I hope it's Ryan Reynolds. And it has a sequence, it builds like a sequence. Yeah. So like, the retcon for Green Lantern was, it was the most worthy successor was going to be Guy Gardner, but Hale Jordan was closer so it picked him and then and then and then eventually Hal Jordan needed a backup guy so he got Guy Gardner who wasn't insane at the time. He had a personality switch. Right okay yeah no I didn't like in the in the comics yeah that they literally switched his personality. Yeah he had a bunch of trauma happening

and time I think maybe one of his girlfriends fell into a time vortex or whatever. I think he also established that Superman kept giving him that haircut with his laser vision. Probably. Yeah, I think that's probably accurate. Yeah, I like, I know that because it's just like the era that I read. Like I like the Carl Reiner version.

I know a lot of people don't. Yeah, but that's in the Oxford English dictionary now. Did you know that? Fridging. Fridging? Oh no, that sucks. I'm talking about the Justice League comic. Oh, you don't like the fact that his girlfriend was murdered for... No, I don't like that. Just to give him a personality. But he's a comic book artist or whatever. And that's interesting because I like that they all, whatever they come from, that brings them how Jordan does a lot of jets, et cetera. Jets and old-timey boxing gloves. Yeah that's what it is.

And hitting people with a plate of steak and eggs. A big glowing steak and eggs. And Kyle Rayner in that JLA comic, he makes like big like anime mech suits and stuff. Yeah and he does it, the editorial mandate at the time was he never makes the same thing twice. Oh that's cool yeah. So he never, the same thing twice. Oh, that's so you have I know boxing gloves and John Stewart was an engineer. So all of his stuff is like yeah, very

It's very well thought out kind of years, etc. And Guy Gartner's just whatever just green splats and baseball bats That's good. We has trauma from that haircut. Yeah, that's true. All right for the flash I've just written Barry and then others. Who do you, I mean, now we're in this topic, who do you think should be the Flash in this universe? I think it's going to be Barry because Wally West is on the mural. Do you mean Wally West or Jay Garrick? So oh yeah, which is it?

Hang on. Let me check my notes from last week. If he's got the soup bowl hat, it's Jay Garrick. It's not going to be Jay Garrick. No. They might do an old Justice League Frontier movie or something at some point. The New Frontier, yeah.

The New Frontier, whatever, yeah. They might do that at some point. So for people that don't know, Jay Garrick was the character from the 40s. Then Barry Allen kicked off the Silver Age of comics. He was the first Silver Age superhero. Oh, must be nice. And he adopted his superhero name because he

read about Jay Garrick in a comic book. Which is why the world has been ruined by multiverse stories. Because they eventually had to establish why he was reading a comic book about this guy if he was also real. So they're like, no, there's two universes. Don't worry about it. Yeah. And then also it was Jay Garrick in the movie. Also there was, which Flash disappeared forever and then he was found. Remember he disappeared from like, I know, but he disappeared from like continuity. I think all of them. No, it was one in particular. Was it like Kid Flash or something?

Well Barry Allen died in the crisis of infinite earths. And then Wally West, who was Kid Flash, he had to take over as regular Flash. And he was always like, I don't know. Thumbs up. Yeah, I don't know if I'm as good as this guy, but then he was. But wasn't there one who literally like, edited in continuity? There's also more than one Wally West. There's Wally West and Wallace West. Also sometimes he's black and sometimes he's white.

Well that's crazy. That's a real Nick Fury situation. That's right, yeah. Yeah. And also a Michael Jackson situation in that film clip. Oh, so true. Morphing, etc. Yes, that's crazy. That's a real Nick Fury situation. That's right, yeah. And also a Michael Jackson situation in that film clip. Oh, so true. Morphing, et cetera. Yes, correct, yes.

So anyway, I guess my question is which, because the absolute Flash is Wally West currently. I think I would like to see, because all the, almost every previous incarnation of the Flash in live action, all of them, has been Barry Allen. Right, okay. And if we're doing legacy stuff, if this universe is about living up to a legacy, I would kind of like to see the Flash in this universe be Wally West and the previous Flash has recently

died and he's taken over and he's like, what do I do? The Flash TV show from the 90s, that was also Barry Allen. That was Barry Allen, yes. But then... Is it because he's more relatable or something? Or they can give him like a job? I mean, I think at the time... No, okay, so you're right, because Barry Allen would have been dead in the comic books by that, because that was 1990.

So, dunno. I think it's probably just the one that the TV writers knew they could have done a procedural thing as well Exactly. Yeah, but also we've done that we've done that with yeah that guy Wesley John Wesley ship on with the ship and then and then Grant Gustin, so we've done Barry Allen. So that's mine. Ezra Miller was the same Yeah, and then John Wesley ship came back as Jay Garrick. Yeah, but anyway, what I'm saying is do Wally West. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, because that's just a fresh new take.

You could also do any of the other thousand ones that there are. Don't you agree? Yes. Yes. Blue Beetle. Second Blue Beetle. There's a Blue Beetle animated series coming as well, with the same actor. Right.

Is... So is Ted Korn... Blue Beetle might be in the DCU. I was going to say, is that a it's Ted Korn. Is that a movie? It'll might be in the DC I was gonna say is that a DC use my made it series. Yeah, I think it is But I think the movie also might be Loosely in did you know he was also in the last season of smallville what blue beetle? No, he was which version the the new one not Ted Korn no the Jaime Reyes one. How did that look? Look it up.

I'm gonna hate this. Unless it's AI generated. I never watched, I did not last until that point in Smallville. But you have seen the finale. But isn't it interesting that those eras crossed over? Yeah. I mean, it's not that bad, if this is it.

And it might be AI. Nah, it looks real. Nah, it's not bad. Yeah, but that's like when you go, you know when somebody has that historical fact They're like, you know that bad not great Yeah, you know when somebody will have that historical fact they're like, you know, actually samurai and cowboys exist at the same time or whatever No, that's this it's like, you know, the TV series smallville and the Jaime Reyes Biomechanical blue beetle. Yeah existed at the same time. Yes. I did that

I try I forgot there's a picture of Booster Gold as well. I knew but I'd forgotten that he was in it as well. He's an easy one to do. Yellow jacket, glasses. That's correct. Can fly, whatever, sometimes. I would like to see that same actor and that Blue Beetle version just in this. Why not? I think you would absolutely work in this universe. The costume works, the whole vibe works.

Movie's not bad either. It's alright. Yeah, it's alright. He did fight Red Blue Beetle at the end. He did fight Red Blue Beetle. But now that's over. Yeah. He can fight new interesting guys.

What's interesting also about Blue Beetle is that... It's pronounced Blue Beeple. Blue Beeple is that obviously that was the characters, a bunch of those characters were going to be used in Watchmen. That's great. But they weren't allowed to, so they had to reinvent new characters. And Watchmen is about, most of the characters in Watchmen are legacy characters. And also, I've always found this interesting that they couldn't be used in Watchmen because

DC wanted to do something with them. Incorporate them in and have them be like A-list characters or whatever. But that never happened until Peacemaker. When 1986 happened, nothing. Then Peacemaker. Before that, the most famous was Blue Beetle, which is not saying anything. And the Ted Kord version, not the Smallville version. Correct, yes.

But do you like Nidalee as a legacy character, Suix Becht is a legacy character. I don't think, no Comedians not but he's Peacemaker basically yeah and others probably. Isn't that interesting. Hooded Justice potentially. I don't know about that one. That's a guy. That is a guy. I don't think this counts but Rewu Williams is a legacy character to Iron Man.

Well, I mean, James, if we're going by this list of a person we don't know who just made it up, who just had a vibe to it. I feel like it has to have the same name. So this person has said, and I agree with them, generation heroes, a bit harder to define, but for me it is those inspired by others of similar abilities or ideals like John Henry Irons as Steel or Troia who is Wonder Woman's protege sidekick who isn't related or sometimes is because of continuity issues but I think Ironheart counts. Alright fine. I mean I'm not saying it doesn't devalue the character but what I'm saying is that like

as a legacy character I think she's a character separate from Iron Man. Oh, absolutely. That's what I meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, you know, John Henry Irons was inspired to be like Superman. I like the legacy character of Superman. But also I would, yeah, I don't know.

Again, is it a legacy character? Is Superboy a legacy character? Yes. Is Spiderboy a legacy character? I'm not, is Superboy a legacy character? Yes. Is Spider-boy a legacy character? I'm not really sure. Is the Eradicator a legacy character? Oh yes he is, because he took the Superman role. I did say Superman, he was Superman. Yeah it's a good point. He did say Superman at one point. I'm Superman at one point. Yeah. I want to see, like, fuck Death of Superman. Wow. Like, I mean I'd love to

see an actual version of that and not the Batman v Superman version. But to me the most interesting part of Death of Superman is the aftermath of the four Superman that show up. And we didn't get that, Glock had just turned up again in the movies. But I think, DC did a recent animated one which I quite enjoyed. But I love all of that. The Do yeah, the Doomsday thing is whatever. It's interesting enough. I am so mad that, even though it's a show that I didn't fully finish,

that John Henry Irons never got his steel costume. Oh, in whatever it is. I mean he got it like in the last frame. Look how good, that looks great. That does look great! He's got the cape, he's got the S-shield, you see his frame. Look how good that looks great. That does look great. He's got the cape. He's got the S shield. You see his face.

Put a helmet on, dude. No, I don't think I just, you know. Put a helmet on. No, no, no, no technology. Can't see. Oh yeah. You can't see his face. Yeah.

I'm just so mad that that looks great. It was always just the metal metal suit. Yeah. Look bad. Look at it. Look bad. I've seen it. I know what it looks like.

Yeah. Yeah. And they had a budget of $6. What can you do? True. $5 million an episode. Yes. Ghost Rider. Yes. Bunch of those. Sometimes there's a horse one or a caveman one or whatever. Yeah. Sometimes there's a Henry Fonda one.

Yeah. Peter Fonda. Peter Fonda. No, it was Sam Elliott. But wasn't Peter Fonda? Peter Fonda was the devil. He was the devil, okay, right. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

Then we mentioned... Oh, we're just going to breeze over. Which Ghost Rider do you want in the MCU? Because it's going to happen eventually. I think they should fold in the Robbie Reyes version. Yeah, with the car. I think so too. Because you could still put in Ghost Rider, regular Ghost Rider.

That's true. Yeah. Um, even though it's kind of a one at a time. I would also say Ghost Rider is another one that suffered from that Robin syndrome because it's always Johnny Blaze and he always gets like the modern Ghost Rider stuff. Yeah. He gets all the Danny Catches stuff and he gets the Penn and Stair and whatever. Penn and Stair, Penn and Teller.

Oh, you look them in the eyes and they see every episode of Penn and Teller at the same time. And they go I knew how you did that. My eyes are opened. I know how all the tricks are done. You put her in a box. Yeah that's right. Supergirl is a legacy character sort of. Yeah that's true. Well there's been a bunch but also she died in DC rebrand or whatever. And then she became a goo matrix alien. No, there was another alien who became a goo. There was a goo alien who became a Supergirl. That's what I'm telling you.

Did they exist simultaneously? They did, I think. For a time, did they? For a time, yeah. And one of them, Data Lex Luthor, was the goo one. Was the goo one, yeah. Yeah. All right, man.

All right. Is that all of them? I'm going to, hang on, I'm just going to- What do you think about Jonathan Kent as the next Superman? I like him as- A boy? No. I was-

Like a Super Sons character. Yeah, no, I like- Because I'm reading that moment with my sons. I like the concept, I like the idea that DC has finally decided to upset the status quo of some characters. Yeah, okay. That's what I appreciate because they did that for a while and then they've spent- They did that until the 80s and then they spent the remaining decades going, no, these characters are always the same.

Yeah. Nothing, we will never move them on from the status quo ever. And I think the idea that Superman has a kid and Batman has a kid or whatever, I think that, I mean ultimately I don't really know anything about Jonathan Gabb. Yeah, I mean Superman. He is, it's true. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I like Super Sun, it's good. I've been reading it again with my son and it's a very good comic. Okay, did? Ask Rock. And? Ask Rock if it likes me. I'm not gonna do that. Supergirl.

Different girl. Exist. I'm Supergirl. I've Googled did Matrix, Supergirl, and Kara Zor-El, Supergirl exist concurrently? And I'm gonna give this one try. What are you doing? And if it doesn't work, I'm gonna add the word Reddit

to the end. If that doesn't work, I will not. Oh no, I've got an AI overview. Well, I just destroyed some trees for this, but Matrix and Kara Zor-El Supergirls did not exist concurrently in the main DC Comics continuity after Crisis on Infinite Earths. I told you, Mason, if that's what I said or I didn't. Yeah. Are you embarrassed to be what you've done? Before Crisis on Infinite Earths, both Matrix as a shapeshifting being and Kara Zor-El, the original Supergirl, existed in DC Comics.

That's probably what you meant. Yeah, that's what I meant. Yep. Oh, yeah. Does it feel good to be right? Uh, yep. Anyway, I think we've covered every character just from comics. I think so too.

You got any other ideas? Invincible does some legacy stuff. I was going to say Invincible. We recently recorded a Caravan of Garbage video on the movie Bulletproof Monk. Yeah. And it's difficult to even find information on the original comic book. Yeah. It's vanished.

If you put in Bulletproof Monk comic, most of the results were like, you know, Bulletproof from Invincible. Oh, or it goes, you know there's a movie? Yes. Yeah, I do. I'm not interested in that. I've seen it. It's uninteresting. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, cool. Anyways, legacy characters. Can't live with them, can't live

with Adam, am I right? Alright. If there are any legacy characters you think we should talk about and just sort of ramble on for a bit and maybe we know something, a little tidbit about them and maybe we don't. You're talking to me? Yes. No, I've been through mine. So I just basically wanted you to talk about DC One Million. Okay. Which I know you love.

I do love it actually. I should get the hardcover. That's your birthday present this year. Is it? Should I get one anyway then I have two copies? Yeah, okay. No, no, no, just me bringing it up so you could talk about it.

That's the present. Oh, the gift is the concept of time. I could have just, James, I could have just perfectly pictured the omnibus in my mind and rotated it in three dimensions. I could have done that for free. But now I've given it up as my birthday present. Thanks for nothing. Thanks for nothing. All right. Thanks, everyone. What do you mean? Thanks, everyone. They got to stick around. Okay, but stay because we're gonna do what we're reading what we're gonna

read. Hell yeah Great segment of the show We all agree says with enthusiasm it is enthusiasm. I like right is what you say It doesn't matter where it's like the enthusiasm is with us podcasts I feel like this outside of time. And so you can just riff and riff and chat and take your time. And GIF, if you want to clean up the surface. You can riff and GIF, spray and wipe all purpose.

It cleans off every surface, you know what I mean? Every surface. Yes, that's what they claim. All right, what do you want to do? Carpet? Yeah. Dirt? A dirt floor? Just a dirt floor, maybe. I don't know. I don't know, you want to do? Carpet? Yeah. Dirt? A dirt floor?

Just a dirt floor, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. You want to do a video on it? Yeah, kind of. Investigative. Do you want to do Mythbusters, but for Spray and Wipe? Oh, Mythbusters.

That show already made that. Not about Spray and Wipe, though. We don't know that. We'd have to watch every episode. We're not going to. Mason, did you know I finished The Bear? I've watched Bear season four and that's good. Oh, what did you think of Bear?

Great. That's great. Really good. I haven't finished've watched Bear season four and that's good. What did you think of Bear? Great. That's great. Really good. I haven't finished it. Is there an episode that's a highlight or? Yeah, there's a wedding one, which goes for like 50 minutes. I know there's a very special guest star in that.

That's right. And there's also the last episode. It's me. The last episode is. I'm getting married to Maddie Matheson. Are you really? That's great. Thank you.

Congratulations to you both. Thank you. But also there's the last episode is just set just outside the, like out the back of the restaurant, but they're just having an argument. Of course there is. So staff are like 25 minutes. Is there an episode that is as off-putting and upsetting- As that family one?

As the Thanksgiving episode? I don't think so, no. Okay, great. That one's very upsetting. They learned their lesson. I mean, that's a great episode, but it's not, you know, it's certainly- It's certainly something else, it's certainly, certainly something else. It's certainly unique. But Bob Odenkirk returns and he's in that one, I think. Is he in that one?

Yes. He's been in previous seasons. Anyway, also, I've been watching this YouTube guy for a while, and I watched this with my kids. He's named Tiago Cattarino and he's a Lego YouTuber. So whenever there's a new Lego set, like of note, like'll like recently he did one on the new Soundwave. I don't know if you've seen the Lego Soundwave. Oh Lego Soundwave, I have seen that, yeah. It looks fricking sick. It comes with little tapes and everything. Problem with that though.

Changes into a cassette player. Yeah, I mean, which the thing about it is, and the thing, if I may be critical of Transformers sometimes, if I may. They're stupid. Like right now they are stupid, but I love them. But also, the thing about Soundwave is, he just turns into a brick, doesn't he? Yeah, exactly. I mean, and years ago that was sort of relevant because he turned into an actual object, but now it's like,

like, but here's the thing with Soundwave though, there is no other option. Like, there are other versions of Soundwave where he doesn't turn into a tape player, but he just turns into a spaceship, and it's just another- A generic- It's just a different shaped brick. My least favorite kind of transformer is one where it's just like, and it turns into a battle cruiser and it's just like a rectangle. Yeah, absolutely. You didn't think about this at all. Yeah, I agree. You know?

That's a B something. That's a B something. You got a B something. Like a B. Make him a B. Make Soundwave a B. Okay. Because you know what a B is known for. Buzzing? You've nailed that.

And we did it together. Well, you know, you set me up. So I can't really take you up, brother. Set you up, brother. That's copyright infringement. And you are going down. What? Yeah, I'm afraid so. But we did it together. No, I don't think the tape will reflect that. All right, Mason, I also, as anyone like Lego stuff. I like looking at stuff and being like, that's cool. He does the Lego. He does it. He builds, he talks about the parts.

He also, he's really like, this is too expensive. Yeah. Like you'll say that for a bunch of stuff. Or he'll be like, this is crap. Oh, wow. He said that about the Captain America shield is like, because he also talks about the build experience and whether it's fun and the captain mega shield is just like a circle Oh, it's like a human side

Yeah, some of those um, let me ask you this James How do you feel about the fact that Lego seems to be moving in the direction of there's so many new parts Oh, I see what you're saying because it's like they'll go. Oh we need a Something that looks like this. Yeah, but we'll need a, we need to make a specific vehicle from a movie or something like that. So we'll make new parts where you just sort of clamp them on the top and then... I mean, you're always going to need new parts, obviously.

But yeah, I guess my pet peeve of Lego is stickers. I like when the bricks have them printed on. I don't like the stickers at all. Are stickers common? They can be, depending on where the part. But also, you know, the new packets are also their paper so you can recycle them or pretend you're recycling them and it goes in the landfill anyway.

That's right. You've done your part. It's a shame the government and the system isn't doing that. You're putting them in the garbage bin there just trotting them out to a Lego packaging warehouse. They've just filled it to bursting. Yeah. Anyway, Lego is great.

It is great. But I, after I build it, like, I'm, you know, I'm kind of like, okay, I'm done with this because I guess I'm not a kid. Yep, that's true. But you know, I was a kid. That is the downfall of me occasionally buying a transformer once a year is I'm like, pretty cool. And then I transform it once and then back to a robot and I just put it on a shelf and I'm like,

that's gonna be like that forever. The next time I attempt to transform it, there's gonna be an explosion of dust. But why would I? Because it's just- Don't do anything. Don't do anything, exactly. I'll tell you something I read this week.

Dude, I'm listening. I read the first issue of New History of the DC Universe, written by Mark Wade, various illustrators, I think Jerry Ordway who's a sort of a classic Superman and DC artist. Who else did the illoes in this? Todd Nauck, Jerry Ordway, and it's just, it is... Dude, you're speaking my language. It's less a comic book and it's more a... well, it is a comic book, but's it's uh it's Barry Allen so I did tarot babble mark way yes he did a bunch of other stuff

yeah I know it is um but he this it's Barry Allen recounting the the current status of the DC universe okay because DC universe I don't know if you know this James but it's been rebooted again it's now DC all-in so it's had a partial which is different than whatever the last one was. Different than... because there's New Superman and whatever? Absolute. Oh, no, you know, that's... No, there's a different continuity, I know.

The Absolute Universe was created... The Absolute Universe is within continuity to the regular DC Universe, because it's a universe that was created by Darkseid. Oh, that's right. And in... actually in DC All-In all in the one the single issue. But dude get out of this is the standard this is the standard DC universe which has had a bit of a rebrand rebrand and reboot. It's basically Barry Allen going from like the beginning of time and being like, okay, here's the stuff that is currently in continuity. Right is what Superman's all about.

He's what Batman's all about. Okay, that's fine. That's a good way to do it. This is exactly my jam as someone who is like heavily into continuity changes that exist within continuity. Again, on this podcast, I'm of course the biggest fan of Crisis on Infinite Earths, the 1986. You have the two of us. You have the two of us. The 1986 mini series.

You didn't even like it that much. It goes for a thousand pages. I do like it. Do you? Yeah, I do. I genuinely do. I don't know. You're an idiot. You only like it because you're a kid at heart, but also when do like it. Do you? Yeah I do. I genuinely do. You're an idiot. You only like it because you're a kid. Yeah. At heart. But also when you read it. Exactly that's probably true. I don't know if I did read it as a kid. I read some of it as a kid. This is like blank and boring. But there's so much text. I know. It took me so long. I remember, because we

did an issue, could we do a sandwich. You didn't finish it. I couldn't. I think I ended up skimming it or whatever I did. But I was like, oh, I must be really far into this. And I'm like, I'm nine pages into this. I've been reading this for so long. But I would say that the format of this is a little bit strange because it's not like text box and action and stuff like that. It's essentially Barry retelling that.

And there's a page about various cosmic entities. And there's a page about celestial beings. And then there's a page about freaking the guardians of the universe and they built the man hunters and that didn't work so well so they made the green lanterns etc. and there's the freaking green lanterns and there's... This looks fun. Yeah it's fun. And there's three more to go so because there's a lot to cover.

Three to go, I'm so busy. You're not that busy. Also, and I mentioned this to you off air, I attempted to watch the Prime movie the Amazon Prime movie deep cover and I said, what are you talking about? it's a movie in which Bryce Dallas Howard and Orlando Bloom and Someone else Nick Muhammad and Sean Bean is in it. Is he from? Ted Lasso, oh he might be yeah. be, yeah. He's got that vibe.

But they're improvisers and they get recruited by, I assume, the FBI. I think it's the FBI or the CIA because they're like, we need improvisers to go undercover. Wait, but the show is not improvised? No, the movie is not improvised, no. But the premise of the movie is that they're improvises in the CIA or the FBI potentially is like We've got it. We're gonna catch these criminals. We need you to be use your improvisational skills To to pretend to be and it's and hijinks in huge and I say something go ahead. No You know what I didn't like about it look I think I think the cast premise

Well, I it's it is good. The premise? Well, it's one of those things where they have to show the event happening. They have to show the idea, the improv. They have to show people on an improv stage doing improv and you can't, it's hard to do that. It's hard to do it, to write it and then have it done like... Yeah, absolutely. Because not all of them are improvs in real life.

I think Nick Muhammad is maybe. Yeah. Bryce Dallas Howard isn't, Nick Muhammad is, maybe. Yeah. Bryce Dallas Howard isn't, as far as I know. And who are the other ones? Orlando Bloom is there. Sean Bean is, he's not an improviser. He's a cop. Or the FBI.

Orlando Bloom is an improviser. Yeah, right? Well, so he's like a... Fuck me. He's a... God, this sounds dire. You should watch it and let me know what you think. We should both watch it and let us know what we think.

We said that about Fountain of Youth. And look at us! We're doing legacy fucking episodes. We're going back to things that we know. We could have also watched this week, I know what you did last summer reboot. But I don't remember enough about the previous two movies. I know enough about it but I'm okay with it. What was this called again? Deep Cover. Paddy Considine is in it?

Okay, that's good I guess. This has a 90% on Rotten Tomatoes. That's crazy to me. I was not compelled to finish it. So that's very interesting I think. Nah, good on him though. I mean I like, again, yeah, I like that cast. Directed by Tom Kingsley.

Tom Kingsley? Who directed The Darkest Universe in 2016. Not a thing, not a real thing. And an episode of Doctor Who called Wild Blue Yondu, I do like that one. Oh, okay. This is set in England for some reason. Yeah, no shit. What do you mean? I can fucking tell by looking at it. Why are you so mad at where things are? Why are you... No, okay, I'm gonna break this down. Why are you mad that you can tell where a movie is set by looking at it? Because you're clearly upset about it. I don't know, because there's one of those things that clearly went, it's British, right,

for the most part, and they went, we'll get an American. Let's get Bryce Dallas Howard. And that makes you mad. That makes me mad. Because they're trying to like, they do it here all the fucking time. And they try to trick you into watching something. But that's at the Logies. No, no, no.

That's also at shows. It's also to like... There's a movie out called Kangaroo. Have you seen the trailer for that? No, I haven't. What's that about? Where do you think it's set? It's set in Australia.

Are you mad about that? Does it got an American in it? I don't know. I don't know. It's kind of like they don't trust... I guess I hate it more here as well. They don't trust the I guess I hate it more here as well, they don't trust the industry here enough to like, fly back Simon Baker, he's fucking Australian.

They did. They did the movie, what's it called? I saw it, it's in black and white, it's great, Limbo. He's in a- Like the video game. He's in a- Nymphrov team. No, he's in an open mining town, he's a cop and he's got a drug problem and he's like,

I've got to investigate a thing. He's like, I'm going to investigate a thing. He's like, come on mate, come on mate. Dude, Eric Banner. Are you telling me the truth? Eric Banner makes nine of those movies a year. Are you telling me the truth? I think you're maybe not telling me the truth. I think you're forgetting that I'm actually from a small town also, maybe even this small

town. And I've got a gun. And I've got a gun. Maybe I will use it. But you can actually get in Australia. A lot of people think you can't. Maybe I'll use it once if the budget allows. I'll fire it once.

He doesn't. It's got 58 reviews this thing you're talking about, this improv movie. This one's from an audience member. That's the name of the person. I've not laughed this much during a movie in a long time. Absolutely hilarious and original. Orlando Bloom is amazing. Maybe I should watch it.

I don't know whether that's related to this thing. Yeah, you know what? You didn't fucking sell it to me, Mason. All these people are selling me. It's incredible. Maybe they're lying though. Maybe they're paid shills. I would never lie to you, James,

unless I was being paid as a shill. Even Eric Childress from the movie Madness podcast didn't like it, but he said Orlando Bloom is really funny. Wow. Well, Eric Childress would say that because he's bitter, because he's barren. What's he the barren of?

He's a barren because he's Eric Chardless. What's he the barren of? The nation of... Here he goes. Look at this mind work. Here's some real improv. England. God, you're good. I know, right? All right, let's do the next segment, Sletters.

Sletters. The classic one was... That was too long a pause. I know, right? I didn't like it. I blame your Wi-Fi for that. What are you talking about? I'm not even married.

Now that's improv. That's what you do. You draw upon things in real life. Like your divorce. Mason. James, let me tell you this, there's a lot of improv performers out there drawing upon their divorce. You're not alone.

You've seen it? Yeah, I've seen it. So if you do want to reach the show, it's easy. You just weeklyplanapod.gmail.com. You just weeklyplanapod.gmail.com. Or go into the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group and there's a thread there every week. That's right. Mason, what do you got from us in the grab bag?

Here's an email from Garrett. Garrett? Hey boys, I am Garrett. He anticipated your question and he's made you the fool. Right there? But you told me his name before. I said it's from Garrett and you said Garrett? Question mark. And he said said hey boys

I am Garrett This man's at least one step. Alright fine. Probably more. I'm playing checkers. He's playing Battleship. That's right. A game that sucks. Oh go on Garrett Do you think the boys missed their window for the final season? People liked season four for the most part if I remember correctly, but now years later and post Superman I wonder if anyone will care about edgy superhero stuff right now. Piers, I think Invincible still has room because it's more sincere and less parody. I mean, I guess it depends on the strength of the show. I also think there's room for sincerity and insincerity. Yeah. It takes on things at any one time. Has the boys finished

shooting the final season? Yes, apparently has. I think there is plenty of room and I think that audience is, the audience for the boys, which includes us, is going to stick around for. Totally. Because I think the whole comic book superhero movie industry isn't going to change overnight. Even though Superman does seem to be, you know, people are enjoying the sincerity of it, but I think a lot of people are still kind of, they feel superhero movies are quippy and ironic and edgy and et cetera. That being said, it is entirely possible, because they are quite quick off the mark,

that they have incorporated some superman. Oh, we know this movie is going to be very earnest and et cetera. Are they going to introduce a character who's very earnest and steadfast and sincere and then homeland and twist his head around? Yeah, sure. They are. They're going to do that. Hey, there's a new member. I mean, Huey starts as that. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah. There's also a show called Vort Rising, which has Jensen Ackles and whoever plays Stormfront. Oh yeah, and it's set in the past. Set in like the 50s. Right, okay. So that could be. So the boys is not stopping. Yeah, I don't think they the past? Set in like the 50s. Right, okay. So that could be. So the boys is not stopping. Yeah, I don't think they've missed the window.

No. But I, yeah. And there's room for multiple things. I think Homelander might kick a Superdog. Oh my god. They can put that in. They can put it in a post. They'll probably just go, there's probably going to be something sincere in Superman.

Let's have Homelander. Let's have Antony Stark kick something. Hell yeah. And then we'll just CGI it in later. Let me ask you a question. Who would have been in a fight between Home Landed and Superman? Superman. Superman movie. Superman. Do you reckon? Yes. Alright. He escaped that black hole. Spoiler alert. Yeah, I guess he did. He fell into the anti-proton river or whatever. He had help. Yeah. He's helping his own power to be invincible. It was a small black hole. Wasn't even a real one.

And a dog. And a dog. And a man made out of gas. Yeah. So you're probably right. I don't think this is a spoiler. No, I think- You're just saying nonsense.

Because it doesn't make any sense, no. I mean, James Gunn in interviews recently has said, oh, he's the most vulnerable Superman. Yeah. But I think that's just because he's got a lot of super power for villains. I think that's just because he's got a lot of super powerful villains. He is the I think he's he's in arguably more powerful than like the cavalry. Yeah.

Oh, I don't know about that. I mean, I mean, I know people I saw some complaints that like he just gets beat up. It's like Cavill Superman lost a Batman. That's true. So, you know, which isn't uncommon for Superman. That's true. Yeah. You know, it's his kryptonite. Yeah. Not by Superman. Got beat up by Zod a bunch and others, you know. Yeah. It's true. So you know which isn't uncommon for Superman. That's true. Yeah, you know, it's his kryptonite

Yeah, not by Superman got beat up by Zod a bunch and others, you know, yeah, it's fine There's nothing wrong with Superman getting beaten up. Anyway, there's room for all comics and ideas some people you really into that. Mm-hmm This room. I mean these things like Captain America, right? That the the Chris Evans is he his whole run was in a cynical era of superheroes and that's true Shit that like yeah Twisted the genre and whatever and he maintained a certain level of boy should have some sort of super soldier Mmm, exactly be like him but edgy they could call him swears swears, man Sergeant swears sergeant swears man. I swear is man

What do you think? I love it. Improv. Marco Ferroni says, what? What? Wow. I don't know, man. What villain that hasn't been featured on film before would you want Superman to fight in the eventual Superman sequel?

I know I said earlier I want the Doomsday thing, but even though it wasn't a movie, it wasn't a real Doomsday because I want the fourth Superman. But Brainiac would be nice. Brainiac would be nice. Do you want green skin alien Brainiac or do you want robot skeleton Brainiac? Well he's both really isn't he because some things who send out the probes in their robot skeletons. Oh yeah right okay. The green skin one yeah. What do you think? Did it was the question there specifically has never been seen before on screen?

Never yeah. Dang even even small screen? Yeah who cares about that. Good point. Doesn't count. It's a great point It doesn't count. Ah, because you just look at Smallville and be like, oh they did everyone. They did everyone, exactly.

I think this Lex Luthor is the only one I could conceivably see in the giant green and purple battle suit. That would be sweet. With the exposed head. Just laser right through that. Nicholas Hull could pull that off I think. Definitely. Because he's got, it was a very good mix of businessman Lex Luthor and insane supervillain Lex Luthor. So I think that's what I'm going to say. I saw people being like, Lex Luthor's in jail, how are they going to continue this character? And it's like, it happens all the fucking time in the comics.

Yeah, and in real life. Yeah, he goes to jail and then he becomes the president. Like it happens. Yeah exactly. And in real life, like you mentioned. That's right. Yeah, he became the president. That's right Nicholas Holt he wasn't even born an American. Okay, imagine this James if you will I'm ready Donald Trump battle suit, but it's got his posture It's got his it's scaled up. So he stands like the front of a horse. Yeah He's gonna lean forward. He's gonna lean to him, yeah. What? That's the first thing I think of it.

Yeah. Pretty good stuff. He's doing well, isn't he? Yep, great. I love how people are like, hey wait a minute, this guy lies. Yeah. I don't think he knows what reaction he's supposed to have to any of this. Oh yeah, yeah.

He's just spinning his wheels up there, isn't he? No, he's definitely looking for something that'll stick. He's looking for a narrative. He'll throw someone under the bus, yeah. He's looking for a narrative. Mmm. He'll throw some under the bus so he'll release some bullshit. And then things will go on as usual and everything will remain bad. That's right. What's next Mason?

This is an email from Tristan. Tristan? How often do you get to watch movies outside the mainstream sphere? The thought of you two being trapped watching films like Red One while well-crafted action films like Australia's own Life After Fighting or the Indonesian film The Shadow Strays pass you by every year genuinely makes me sad. Thanks for the ears and laughs and good vibes, Tristan from Tennessee. Look, I haven't seen Life After Fighting. I've never even heard of them.

Look in this now. Ooh, okay. Yeah, watch this one. My self-instructors, a skill report to the test when two of your students are abducted by human traffickers. It's taken. Oh, and Rambo. And Rambo 5 or whatever. Mmm.

No, we- Oh, it's a bunch of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And most of it more streaming than cinemas. Yeah. It's very rare that I will go to the movies to see a movie that I'm not going to talk about. Yeah, right.

Which is unfortunate. What I do is whenever anybody's raving about a movie in real life or on social media or what have you, and it's not part of this, I will put it down in a notes app. Yeah. And then when we have a break, often I will just... And usually as well when it's, you know, we do an end of the year break or what have you, everything's out on streaming at this point. So I'm just like, okay, I've got eight movies that people said were the best,

I'll watch them all now kind of thing. Oh, also a lot of the smaller movies, the ones that aren't the blockbuster stuff, those ones we don't get here till like months later. That's actually true. So if I want to go see like, I wanted to see, it was a book I read, The Salt Path. And it was here for like a minute. Now that was quite controversial, right? The movie. Turns out some of it's not true, maybe. Oh, I don't know about that. Oh, some people have emailed in and be like, what do you think about this James? I don't know

I mean I read it. What do you think about this controversy or controversy? I didn't look into it Okay, so I'd so I'm this is only recent. This is after you read it. I thought the moon I knew about a forerunner interesting. No, I just said I'll look into it. Mm-hmm. This is the first time here Yeah, okay, well, yeah, all right, what's that movie? Andrew Garfield, Florence Pue. We live in time. Yeah. That didn't come out for months. Oh man. Yeah. I got to watch that. Everybody thought that was great. Fuck.

And I have watched it since, but yeah, that came out, it was, it came out in the UK. I think I bought that on streaming. It was just sitting on one of my services. And then it didn't come out for months. And then there was like once, there was a British film festival in Australia, in Melbourne Melbourne and then they showed it once. That was the final, because I couldn't make it to that. And then I just. Well, I hope Lee Patch got to see it from the Herald Sun. I bet he did.

Do you think Nui Tekoha did? Dude. And then he put it in the matrix of things that were hot or not. Yes. Living in time. That's right. When you live in time. Not the bad stuff that happens. Not. The sad stuff. Big Brother season nine or whatever. That's right. Not. When you live in time. Not the bad stuff that happens.

Not. The sad stuff. Big Brother Season 9 or whatever. That's right. I think that was a good one actually. I think so too. So yeah, we do. Don't be sad.

Yeah. Sometimes we watch garbage for this, but also sometimes we watch great big movie. Yes. Sometimes we watch great big movie. Yes. Also, I watch a lot of my downtime. I watch a lot of TV as well. Yeah, my downtime is a lot of just YouTube documentaries.

Usually about old video games and stuff. Totally. Yeah. That's just interesting. I just watched like a 50 minute video about the Dark Knight Rises mobile game. Oh, yeah, great. Send me that link.

Yeah. I'm like, I don't even want to play this. This looks like shit. But it's fascinating. It's fascinating to have. They made an open world Batman Dark Knight Riders game. Like in between Arkham games as well. Like so weird.

What is that in terms of the timeline of when the movie came out? Came out like 2012. That's incredible. Yeah. This is from Tom Redhead. He says, have you stopped doing YouTube videos other than Caravan of Garbage and Clips in the pod? Also, I demand our apologies for slandering and redheads on your recent Bookcheat podcast

appearance. Did we? No, we won't apologize if we did that. That's correct. Yes. Okay. So there was more coming out now. There'll be one out by the time this goes out in the main feed and there was one last

week and there's another one banked. So basically what happened, Lawrence- Lawrence had a baby. Lawrence had a baby. And Ben got turned into a baby with a ray, an energy ray of some sort. And Lawrence had to look after both his baby and Ben who turned into a baby. Yeah, so busy. Also Matt moved on, Matt's doing a real person job.

Terrific. Not that editing isn't a real job, that's a real job. It's a more consistent job that was yeah, exactly And like I could have given it like more videos like Collings, but because he's a great editor But he's got a million things on as well. So, you know, okay Collings has the absolute advantage. Yes, the best of everything I will throw something with Collings if I absolutely have to but other than that I'll try to leave him alone in terms of editing. I have video editing software on my phone I think oh you want me to send you some stuff then? Yes

Sure, I should do that actually Mason edited software on my phone I think. Oh, you want me to send you some stuff then? Oh yes, sure. Sure, I should do that actually. Mason edited this on his phone. See what it turns out. But like for Dallas editing stuff, for video for Big Sammich and whatever. But yeah, we're trying to do more. Also, I know we sometimes will be like, oh, this is, who cares? We don't even care about this and we put no effort into it. There is still effort.

Caravan of garbage. That's a joke. Yeah, there's a ton of, not just in editing, but like when we watch it and there's notes and there's research and whatever. And I also watch a bunch and read a bunch of behind the scenes stuff that I never even look at that I've got just in case you throw me a question or whatever. So there is, there's more and there's one video a week for like the entire year. I was going to do, like I'm often going to do a lot of research on the topic of the movie

or what have you, but then I get turned into a baby with a ray. With a ray. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Lawrence has to look after you. Exactly. Yeah. I think he's raised you to adulthood like, what, seven times now? Easily, yeah.

These darn rays, you know? Yeah, and you get worse every time. Yeah, that's right. He's done a less good job. Yeah. I mean, for anybody who does- He keeps raising me with more and more iPads. Yeah. That's get worse every time. You do a less good job. I mean for anybody who does- He keeps raising me with more and more iPads. That's why I like this.

And the only way to have a video a week and a podcast and the bonus stuff or whatever, no one needs it. This is not a complaint, this is the reality of it. And keep it at a quality that we like. There's a lot of hands that have to go on it. And also there's a lot of work that has to go into it. Because a video a week, it's a lot really work that has to kind of go into it. Because the video week it's a lot really, which I couldn't do it by myself obviously.

I mean also you know, a lot of work going on making those license plates on that assembly line. Yeah but my job's harder. Yeah we wouldn't know about that. Here's an email from Dennis. Yeah Dennis. Subject line, living in a small town. Sad face emoji. The menace over here. That's correct. Hey boys, including Austin Powers. He's not here this week, but imagine if he was. He died.

No, he... Wait. No, it wasn't. I thought he might have, but it wasn't him. Yeah, but he didn't die. No, no, I just looked though, but I thought it... In the post credits, he turned out he hadn't died. That's right. But I just looked, because I thought I saw him. And? But it was the ghost of him, but he hasn't died. I think it's from the future.

Wasn't that a wheelie bin wearing a velvet jacket? Just squeaking down the street in the wind? Yeah. Yeah, great. Anyway, it's Dennis from Newfoundland. How did you know? Yeah, I know. I can tell Austin Powers apart from a wheelie bin with a velvet jacket.

It's Dennis from Newfoundland, Canada. I just recently moved to a small town where I need to drive 40 minutes to the closest movie theater. Unfortunately, they only have two screens, so they only play the big hits. I missed out on Sinners 28 years later, and I know what you did last summer on the big screen. Have you ever been excited for a movie

just for it not to play at your local cinema? Please note I moved from a city that just got its first IMAX screen. Hope all is well, and I'm glad to be your Newfoundland podcast audience. Hell yeah. Well, we just talked about how a bunch of stuff doesn't go to hell. Yeah, but I mean I'm glad to be your newfound podcast audience. Hell yeah. Well we just talked about how bunch stuff doesn't go. Yeah, but I mean that used to be the norm for Australia. You would never know for sure. At a certain point there was just no internet, so you'd pick up like an Empire magazine or

something and you'd go, oh look at all these cool movies coming out. Electra. Yeah, that's right. I wish. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, sometimes it's inexplicable. and again, we're never not going to get Superman or Sinners or something like that, but we are often going to not get a smaller drama or a quirky thing, an independent thing, or maybe Neon or A24 has eight movies for the year and they're like-

We get a lot of Indian cinema. You notice that? Yeah, it's like- Heaps of that. Yeah, Hoyts and Village will often do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of Indian cinema. Yeah, it's like, Heats and Village will often do that. And a lot of them, pretty good. Although I have only really seen a few recently. So, I saw a couple of them.

Recently? Yes. Look at this guy go. Yeah, I know stuff. Yeah, I know stuff. But yeah, you never know. But I get, but what I would say though is a lot of the stuff that we don't get

isn't necessarily big screen entertainment. It's rarely we're gonna get, I would like to see it at the cinema because you lock in. But like, you know, if they, if we, if we for some reason didn't get Superman, it's not going to be the same at home or on a regular TV kind of thing. So I feel we're very fortunate in that way. I agree. Also, I like that they've been forced to do international rollouts because they just get pirated because it, because I think that would just keep doing that if that wasn't the case.

I remember when Zack and Miri made a porno. That got hurt. Because what happened is that movie, that's a Kevin Smith movie by the way. Yeah. Elizabeth Banks and Seth Rogen. Because I remember I was a big listener of Kevin Smith's podcast, Smodcast at the time, and that got released in America, and it did very badly. It just didn't hit like all the other Seth Rogen, Elizabeth Banks, Jason Statham.

Yeah, it's pretty good. It did not do well. And then of course, it got buried. And they were like, we're going to release it in six months in Australia, whatever. But that was also prime torrenting time. So when it got released in Australia, nobody went to see it because everybody had already seen it on the Pirates Bay. They saw it on a pirate ship.

Also nobody's seen that movie here. I'm pretty confident. Yeah, very much doubt it. Yeah. Got this one, Mason. Oh, did you know there's a Jay and Silent Bob meet Archie comic? Just came out. Not surprising. I got to read it. All right, check it out. Snooch did you know there's a Jay and Silent Bob meet Archie comic? Just came out. Not surprising.

I gotta read it. Alright, check it out. Snooch to the Nooch, etc. Exactly. Rain Pollock says, what's the best video game controller? Dualshock PlayStation. Yeah, that is... Any system.

They really peak. They do update it. Yeah. Like the technology inside it. Yeah. Just that in general. Are people like the Xbox? And you might be like, oh, do we have fond memories of the NES or the SNES controller?

No. No, not Archie. Bad. I mean, maybe if they never made anything better. Yeah, but they did it's a playstation 4 dual shock Which is now the standard for yeah. Yeah, most modern controllers are good. Yeah, because they're all the same They just map the buttons differently. Yeah. Yeah, we have an nostalgic memory for the Atari. No, we don't know It's all well, so it sucks. Do you like a weird handheld? Like a boxy handheld from you from your youth. No, you had a Sega whatever it's called a game. Yes, you know mad No, nobody had the Nomad. The Nomad was the Mega Drive Genesis portable. Yeah sort of nobody had that. Yeah You had one though, didn't you? No, I mean the one I wanted was the turbo graphics 16 handheld Okay, they released it at the same time as the TurboGrafx-16, roughly,

but it was exactly the same. How the fuck did they pack that into? I don't know. I don't know, man. How handheld was it? I can't remember. Jegan, now. I was called, oh, it looked like a Game Boy.

It was like a bigger version of the Game Boy. Oh, I remember this. The TurboGrafx-GT. But they, again, I don't think they released one in Australia, so I would have had to go to like, overseas for it. London. Turbo Express, they called it. Whoa.

Yeah. What year did it come out? 1990. I was gonna say. Oh, that early? Yeah, yeah, color. Look at that. 2.6 inch TFT active matrix backlit LCD, backlit James.

The screen is so small. Yeah. Or is it huge? It was bigger than the Game Boy. Definitely bigger than the Game Boy, yeah. I've never, I didn't realize, I thought you were going to say like mid to late 90s. Well, wrong. This shit would have been so expensive.

Yeah, that's exactly the thing. Because I had Atari Lynx and that was expensive. We didn't really get the TurboGrafx either. No. What kind of stuff did it have? Great, we're caught in a loop of shit we remember. That's right. Thanks, thanks emailer.

God damn it. Good question. Thanks Rang Pollock. Yeah, it was, I mean it was predominantly, because it was the PC engine in Japan, so it was predominantly Japanese stuff. It was, I mean it was comparable to like the Super Nintendo and the Mega Drive, but I would say it was more Mega Drive. Like it felt more like a Mega Drive. Yeah, okay. Alright, cool. That doesn't help at Drive, but I would say it was more Mega Drive. Like it felt more like a Mega Drive.

Yeah, okay. Alright, cool. That doesn't help at all, but that's just a part of it. No, I get the idea. Great. Yeah, there's a lot of like Splatterhouse, you know, those sort of games. Yeah, that kind of shit. Yeah.

Okay. Great. Is that the show? No, I got one more email, James. Oh my god. Yeah, that's right. Oh my god. This is from Curtis. I think this is a good question. Yeah. He says, I was in a DC movie. That's not the question.

I'm not, I was in a DC movie? Greetings James and Maceau from Niagara Falls, Canada. Well, I'm sitting right there in Sydney too. Hang on a second. Niagara Falls, Canada. Yeah. Is there two Niagara Falls? No, it's the one that borders Canada and USA. Okay. Is Niagara Falls in Washington?

Dude, who cares? James, there is infinite time on a podcast. We all care. Is this the Achuca Moama of America and Canada? Yeah, it's on the border of US and Canada, which is what I said. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Watching Superman reminded me that in high school,

I was a background actor in the best DCEU movie Shazam. Oh, it reminded you. That was a good movie. I was in the final carnival battle scene, and I made sure to look directly at the camera several times so all my friends could see me but none of them seemed to care as we also went to school with the actress who played Deadshot's daughter in Suicide Squad. Oh that's cool. My question for you guys... Well she also... wait no I'm thinking Deadshot wasn't in the Suicide Squad. Correct yes. Because they recast.

That's correct. And redid that character. That's correct. Yeah I was like because he had a daughter too it's the same fucking fucking car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So it was ironic. It was ironic my question for you guys is if you could be a background actor in any movie scene What scene would it be Dan? I think any scene? I'm not I'm not concerned with what movie it was but it would it would have to be a scene with Food and it's got to be real food. Do you have to be eating food in the background? Yeah, I'm just saying I'm just saying why you won't be eating all. Do you have to be eating food in the background? Yeah, I'm just eating. Why do you want to be eating all day? Because you're going to be eating all day.

That's exactly why. I'll eat until I burst and I die. Okay. And I have to call the ambulance. So this is like you're not doing anything. You have to do like a generic, like you're not doing anything specific. I would be in like a dance scene at a club. Are you gone?

But you know, because when they film those things, there's no music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you just got to dance to nothing. Dance however you want. And that looks terrible. People will be like, look at this idiot. things, there's no music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you just got to dance to nothing. Dance however you want, yeah. And that looks terrible. People will be like, look at this idiot. Okay, great.

Yeah, that's what I would do. Wow. Or I could be in the Dinos scene in When Harry Met Sally. Oh yeah. And I'd just be like. Knock it off. Yeah, knock it off. What are those noises?

I'd be hands on hips like, what's going on here? Yeah. What's bloody going on here? Explain yourself. Grow up. Yeah, you know grow up I'd always be yelling I Think that's good. Mmm. Oh I you know what I'd love to be in I would love to be in any

Superhero in high school discovers their powers in the school hall and you're the back and go yeah, and on my current age And I'm dressed as a student. I've got a backpack on a big polo shirt cool, and I'm just like What's going on? And I'm dressed as a student, I've got a backpack on and a big polo shirt. Cool. And I'm just like, what? What the hell? What's going on? He did a flip. And then the police show up to arrest me. Because what am I doing there? I think that's good.

I think that's good too. Yeah. I think everything's good. Agreed. That's right. Is that the show now? That is the show, James. You better believe it.

That's all your frickin' questions enough for you, Mason? Yeah, man. Alright, brother. And I appreciate that. Yeah, man. Alright brother. I appreciate that. Yeah man. That's friendship. Is it? Answering each other's questions. Hey, what's this?

Does this look infected? Yes. Well. Go to a doctor. What's this noise? What was that noise over here? Go to a doctor! Okay, terrific.

It's probably a dog barking, I don't know. Yeah, it's probably a dog barking. Or the Austin Powers wheelie bin. Might be. Folks, thank you so much for listening and watching. That bin screamed, yeah baby, what's going on? Yeah baby. Oh, is that what it was?

Yeah, that's what it was, yeah. Yeah, I can do it. You know? I don't like it. Do you think there's more in the podcast for this new character, Wheely Bin Austin Powers? It is late, it's officially late, folks. There's always room for more incredible improv.

A whole Willie Bin, Austin Powers family. He wouldn't have a family. I hate a baby. It's a Willie Bin fat bastard. That would be more of like a... It's a skip. It's a skip, yeah. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. We do, everybody. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get that's free And thank you for providing a five-star review on your app of choice if you do so James will find it He'll read it out. I'm all right now. Oh, yeah, this is from 8 9 7 7 BHJ from the UK. I'm gonna try and put their little bit there where they're from Yeah, it's Joe from the UK. Brilliant That sounds like something a boy band would sing.

That's true. When it gets to the rapping segment. I'm BHJ from the UK. Exactly, yeah. I'm from Camden Town. Et cetera. His name's like Pex. And he still tours, but his Pex are not as good as they used to be.

Sorry, carry on. He's just getting older. Cut him some slack. I won't. If you don't have any Australian friends, you still won't have any after listening to this podcast. Ain't that the truth? But at least it will feel like you do it.

That's basically the same thing, right? Yes. Because feelings are valid. That's right. And Steve Boddy from Belgium says, the best podcast of the grub era. Steve Boddy? Yeah. Wow.

He would also be in a boy band. Agreed. This is the best podcast of the grub era, witchetty and or otherwise. So true. All right. Folks, if you want to get into contact with the show, perhaps you're in a boy band and you want to tell us all about it.

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I don't know, but I'm going to another dimension. Ooh, behave. Who was that? What? I don't know. Sounded like the bin? No, that was definitely Austin Powers. That definitely had the British twang of Austin Powers.

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