The Weekly Planet - 586 Together & The Future of New DCU/MCU

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

It's medium to small size movie week! We're talking Neon's latest horror entry, Together. Plus we discuss the Warner Bros Discovery split and the huge cost associated, the Superman 2025 mural reveal, Robert Downey Jr's Avengers payday, the lagging The Fantastic Four: First Steps box office, an update on MCU's Blade, Deadpool 4 and Black Panther 3, our first look at the Spider-Man: Brand New Day suit and Hulk and Scorpion joining the project, trailers for Avatar 3: Fire & Ash, Primal War and Peacemaker Season 2, a new James Boon writer and the future of the Predator franchise. Thanks for listening!New bonus ep of the clickbait special podcast also out now! Plus entire back-catalogue of let's play videos, bonus podcasts, movie commentaries, early access and ad-free episodes all available on https://bigsandwich.coPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start04:46 The Warner Bros Split09:41 Superman Movie Mural Reveal15:14 RDJ Pay Day for Doomsday17:21 Box Office for Fantastic 4: First Steps18:47 No Rush for Blade Movie & Deadpool 420:11 Black Panther 3 & Harrison Ford MCU Return22:48 Hulk & Scorpion in Spider-Man: Brand New Day23:18 Spider-Man: Brand New Day 1st Teaser26:36 Avatar: Fire and Ash Trailer32:20 Primal War Trailer35:01 Peacemaker S2 Trailer38:13 New James Bond Writer42:20 Future of The Predator Franchise46:52 Together Movie Review (some spoilers)59:56 Together Big Spoilers Segment01:17:21 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:27:16 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, with me as always is my co-host, one Nick Mason. It's great to be here. The only one, except for that guy in Pink Floyd, he's more famous. And a guy I know personally also has the same name. What's he like? He's pretty bizzare. Does he have a podcast?

Maybe. I think it's maybe football related. Football related? Yeah, that's right. Which one? Which type of football? Because we've got an international audience. You've got to realize when you say things like that. Yes. People don't know.

People are stupid. They don't know. Our audience is stupid? Yeah. So they don't, they, you think they won't be able to guess from context. It's Australian rules football. They didn't even know we're Australian. A lot of people think we're English.

They do actually. Yeah. I think it's a podcast about a premier league football. Okay. Cool. Football. Football. As we call it. F-U-I-T. Futeball?

Yeah, B-E-E-L. Futeball, because of how futile it is. Correct. Yeah. Ultimately, all everybody's pastimes are futile. So true. But futball is the only one that admits it. Yeah. Also, we love all our listeners and we don't think they're all stupid. That's correct. Yes.

Yeah. We love our listeners, all our listeners, we think only some of them are stupid, but we're also on that. Yeah. But we all, we're also on that level of stupid. Oh, 100%. They're the ones we're pitching the podcast to everybody else. What are you even doing here? We don't know.

Yeah. But stay. Yeah. We'll take your money. Yeah, absolutely. We'll take your money. Or your free lessons. That's right.

Yeah. Mason, it's a big week for movies. It's a big week. It's time for medium sized movie, medium sized low budget movie. Medium movie? Yeah. We're going to be talking about of course the movie together. That's right. And also we've got a bunch of news to talk about including the rebranding, how we got here Warner Brothers discovery and then whatever. And they're all sort of different things now. You know about this? I didn't know about this, but I'm excited to hear about it and I won't become enraged internally when I hear

about the pointlessness of all the whole thing. Absolutely we've got some DC use which is the DC news section. Specifically it's the DC news you can use. Yeah that's right you can use it every day. You can use it in your office, you can use it on the street. Yeah this is specifically about the mural that we saw in Superman we've got some confirmation. Oh yeah okay sure sure. This is specifically about the mural that we saw in Superman. We've got some confirmation of some characters. Oh yeah, okay, sure, sure. Some I thought was there was not there. Yeah.

But Gunfire was definitely there. Definitely, 100%. We've got some MCUs. I'm available to play Gunfire. Are you? James Gunner's listening. He's not. Okay. He's not. I'll play Gunfire.

Do you think he's one of our stupid listeners listening? Yes. Good. Uh, MCUs, which is the Marvel Cinematic Universe news that you can use. Mm-hmm. Uh, we've got a bunch of use. I wouldn't recommend it though. It's on the decline. Don't go in your office or on the street and be like, hey, you want to hear some MCU news?

People will be like, no. Of course not. No. I didn't even see Fantastic Four probably. That's right. We're going to talk about what Robert Downey Jr. is getting paid for Doomsday in Secret Wars. Is it too much? Yeah, it seems that way.

So we have a firm figure here. It's an estimated figure. Well, it's from a pretty reputable source. We've got some updates on some movies including Blade and Deadpool 4, Black Panther 3. We're also going to talk about if Kevin Feige is coming back to the MCU and some characters joining the MCU, Mason. Oh, yes. Sorry, the Spider-Man movie that's coming out.

Speaking of, we've got a... It's not even a trailer, but a trailer for the next Spider-Man movie. We've got one of those things, Sony did a thing where it's like, is this just... Are they just advertising a skin for a video game or something? Maybe. Maybe. We don't know.

I mean, it will be a skin in a video game. Oh, yeah. At a certain point, surely. Then we've got the official release of the Avatar 3 Fire and Ash trailer for Primal War, which we both watched. That's right. You, because you had to. I didn't have to, I could have closed my eyes.

True. Me, because I saw it out. And then of course Peacemaker Season 2. James Bond has a new writer. That's right. And the future of the Predator franchise, which is also the past. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's been some changes.

That's right. Which we want to talk about. Outside of this podcast, I don't think we've been on anything. We haven't been on any other podcast. No, that's coming out immediately. We did do something. We did a little something for the Grouse House YouTube channel, which is Auntie Donna's other channel. And it will be out sometime in the next year, probably.

Potentially maybe. It was horrendous. I had the worst time. I had the worst time. I had a great time. Yeah, because you went the guy. I will say that I did have a great time and the whole time I'm like, maybe I'm doing this wrong because I'm having a really good time and that is not the stated goal of this thing we did.

So anyway, look out for that. I would say subscribe to the GrassHouse YouTube channel. So much good stuff. Watch some of the videos and you'll have a great time. The thing we went on specifically was the most upsetting guessing game in the world. And I was the one doing the guessing. And boy howdy. Did I have a good time Mason?

I'm having an alright time. I had a bad time. I had a really bad time. It fucked me up for real. Right. Yeah. Wow. Alright there's time codes below if you do want to jump to anything in particular. Here we go with this Mason by THR.

Warner Brothers Discovery is now back to being Warner Brothers. Hell yeah. And Discovery. Hell yeah. Yeah. Again. Because that's what they were initially. Originally, yes.

Yeah. David Zaslav, Warner Brothers CEO, has issued a statement. That's great. Yeah. Which I think we'd all like to hear. If you've got it there, I'm willing to listen. For several past several years we have made important strides across the business, launching and investing in a profitable global streaming service and reinvigorating our studio to return them to an industry-leading position.

With our unmatched portfolio of storytelling IP coupled with our incredible creative partners and now an exclusive team of proven bold and committed creative and corporate leaders, we are in a strong position to launch and continue to meaningfully grow a company worthy of our storied past. That is so true, isn't it? Does that warm you in any way? It warms my cockles, the cockles of my heart. And you're pissing your pants and that's warming you.

Yeah. And that's because I'm so excited for future revenue streams and, and, and, and future streaming opportunities. So there's a, pissing my pants is what I mean. All the streaming opportunities I have in the future. Obviously at Warner Brothers, he's been, we've talked about this over the years, they've been reshuffling and gutting the company, cancelling movies, bringing them back, tax write-offs. I think they're doing weird AI stuff.

I can't remember. They're probably doing that thing where they combine some companies and then they saddle one company with debt and then they sell it off and that company completely collapses. They're like, see you later. Thanks. Yeah. So this is interesting. So in 2022, McKinsey, which is a consulting company, they'll pay...

Oh, I know who they are. Oh yeah. Maybe not everybody does because not everyone is as smart as you, as you said. I think everyone's as smart as you. Was paid $55 million... Wait, you think I'm dumb. Yeah. Was paid $55 million to...

For an Excel spreadsheet. They're expensive, folks. Really much. was paid $55 million to advise- For an Excel spreadsheet. Ha ha, they're expensive folks. Pretty much, was paid $55 million to advise merging Warner Brothers and Discovery. From 2022 to 2025, McKinsey charged $37 million to advise Warner Brothers Discovery to change HBO to HBO Max, to Max, and then back to HBO Max.

And in 2025, McKinsey billed Warner Brothers an additional $63 million to determine that Warner Brothers and Discovery should be separate brands again. Love it. Isn't that good stuff? So do we have a combined total? I can definitely do that.

I can use my calculator machine. I don't need to do it obviously. Well, I could use my calculator machine, my mind. Yeah, that's what I'm saying to you. But I've forgotten all those numbers. So I could- 55 million plus 37 million plus 63 million. There you go.

Use your calculator mind. 20 million. Correct. That's what I thought. But if you also add an additional 135 million, that'd be closer to the actual number Wow, what do you think about that? That's a nice chunk of pastrami. You know, yeah God as they went around in the circle for a hundred and fifty five. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty good I think they should rebrand Warner Brothers as the Warner Brothers. Mm-hmm, and then and then maybe separate that just the that path No No, but we would learn, we'd call them like whoever the Warner Brothers were. Oh, into different brothers? Yeah, like different brothers, right?

How many Warner Brothers are there? I reckon there's probably two or three. Interesting. If I had to guess, let's look it up. Okay, here we go. Warner Brothers. This is exclusive. This is exclusive. No, not Warner Brothers movie world. Do they live in the water tower? With the eight? Four brothers. Harry, Albert, Sam.

Like the movie Four Brothers with... Andre 3000 was in that. Whatever else was in that. Yeah. Four brothers, Harry, Albert, Sam and Jack Warner. Here they are in a nice little, little, little portraiture. Show me. Okay.

Oh, that man, that's a picture of a guy's long dead. And a picture of health. So I reckon we should separate it. We should separate the company into Harry Warner, Albert Warner, Sam Warner, and Jack Warner and they can each cover a different aspect. Streaming service. Four different streaming services. Yes, exactly.

You can pick your little icon. Yep. And your kids will be like, I want to be Albert Warner. Yeah. You'll be like, well, you can't both be Albert Warner. One of you has to be Sam Warner. And they're like, I want to be Albert Warner. Yeah. You'll be like, well, you can't both be Albert Warner. One of you has to be Sam Warner. And they're like, oh yeah, well, you'll be damn Warner. You also, you got to balance out the content.

So none of them have all the things that you want. And it's four steps separate. Yeah. You have to get at least three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To get what you're looking for. Yeah. Mason, this is good stuff.

I think it's good stuff. I don't know why you're giving away these ideas for free. You're right. I should sell them to McKinsey to sell to Warner Brothers. That'd be great. So there you go. That's business. And then people could be like, you could be brand, you could be like, man, I'm more a Harry Warner kind of guy.

Oh yeah. You know, because Peacemaker's on it. Show me that picture. They just look like four identical men. They do. Well, they have different... I mean, they look different, but they just seem to me like they have the same personality. I think they look the same they have the same personality. I think they look the same and have the same personality. One guy has the least receding hairline, but I suspect he's just the youngest.

Maybe he's going to wig, maybe he's wigged up. Maybe he's wigged up. Yeah. So he's the least confident one. Okay. Well, that's great. It's time for some DC use. Okay.

This is the DC, because of course the DC now is a new cinematic universe and it's going great guns, James Guns. Nice. Anyway, there's a mural in the new Superman movie that showed a bunch of legacy or sorry, previous characters that have been superheroes in the universe and now we've got a confirmation of what they are because this was released officially. And it is a mix of somewhat recognizable characters and in the James Gunn tradition, a bunch of like D-listers like who is that Lister's and like

Who some of whom I suspect may be put into projects in the future and some are just like jokes Hey get look at get a load of this guy. Yeah, we got two people with bullets for heads That's right. So there's sister symmetry or Madame Xamet Xanadu. Okay, silent night. There's exit X X wrist toss Okay, don't know that is Black Pirate Miss Liberty whip whirlwind which is apparently Max Mercury's Wild West persona okay sure super chief from the super friends I presume and maybe before that or did it was he introduced for that I don't know he's a pat is Apache

chief a different guy yeah you might. Yeah, I might be confusing my stereotypes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'll look it up. Okay. Name of several fictional characters. You know, I'm not going down. Yeah, that's what James Gunn wants us to do. Al Diablo, of course, the Suicide Squad. Iron Monroe, Ghost of Flanders, Sandman, but the Wesley Dodds version. Okay, sure. Amazing Man, Zatara, who is Zatana's father, who's the Wizards. Liberty Bell, Bullet Man and Bullet Girl, Max Mercury. Max Mercury gets two looks in there. Did I already say Max Mercury?

Well, you said Max Mercury in also. Oh yeah, and Whirlwind. Yeah, you're right. Freedom Beast is there, I think. Yep. TNT and Dan the Dynamite. Okay. Phantom Lady, Atomic Knight, Freedom Beast as mentioned, Wildcat, Vibe, Gunfire, who's

your favorite, and Sean Gunn as Maxwell Lord. Right, okay. So there you go. There you go. Now did James Gunn say something along the lines of of we are working on a property with one of these? He said there was one recognizable actor in there but it might, I thought it was going to be Dr. Fate. Yeah, right. Because we thought we saw him. Could have been Pierce Brosnan. So it's probably Sean Gunn. Could be Sean Gunn. Of those ones I suspect if there's going to be a movie or something made, maybe Zatara

might be the one. The Magician Man. Yes, Magician Man. Not a Zatana, you think? We could do both. I think maybe she's in it. Maybe it's a Zatana movie. I'd love to see a Zatana movie.

There I go. You could make one with AI. With current, you know, did you see that? What's it called? Screen... That Russell Crowe thing they did? They did an AI Russell Crowe clip. Oh, I didn't see that.

Clip on movie at a festival. But somebody, some huge tech company recently is like, we've got a new technology and you can put yourself in any movie, you can create any movie and it's gonna be great. They did that in Black Mirror Lake last week. Yeah. I hated it. Yeah, but you like it now.

Yeah, it's good now. Did you see the Wizard of Oz thing where they're expanding it inside the dome? Yeah, I did see that in the Las Vegas sphere. It looks awful. Yeah. So what they've done, if people don't know, they've taken the original Wizard of Oz and you've got like the... It's obviously... the problem with the Wizard of Oz is that it's got limitations in terms of how wide the border is. Yeah, exactly. But they've blown it up so it's in a big sphere.

Because when in that iconic scene where Dorothy is walking down the yellow brick road and she sees the scarecrow, she looks at the scarecrow comes alive and we see this close up shot of the scarecrow, I'm sure a lot of people were wondering at the, even at the time. How much corn is there? How much corn is there in that field? You know? And now we know. Those people are all dead now.

Yeah. But now their descendants now know how much corn is in that field. That's crazy. It's like, that's such an incredible movie. We watched it recently and it's so timeless and beautiful and just crafted so well. This is just, I don't know. Could do with a bit of motion smoothing though.

Yeah, I guess they could. Yeah, it could up-res the skin textures or whatever. That's right. I watched a video on it and I'm like, I don't know, man. I mean, I don't- I wanna see it like Judy Garland is being filmed on video. It looks, you know, it just, it's like we're in the room with her, you know?

Yeah. I don't wanna be in the room with anybody. I don't know, man, anyway, it's time for MCUs. Okay, I was gonna say, there is, I can't remember what it's called, it's called screenwriter or screen maker or something like that and they're just like, we're rolling this out and you can put yourself in any movie and say, I want to be Iron Man or whatever. Do you have to be like have the rights to any of that? I don't think so.

Do you have to have the rights to yourself or do you offer that over when you put yourself in the machine or whatever? Yeah, you probably do. You probably lose your personal rights to everything. I guess it would be cool if I put myself in The Wizard of Oz and then I took my kids to see it in the big diamond and they're like why are you every character in The Wizard of Oz? Because I paid a hundred thousand dollars to do this kids. I'm all gonna sit here. I spent your college fund on this. You know what I saw maybe people can track this down, somebody made

something with it and it was like an animated sitcom and it was Elon Musk, the Facebook guy, Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bridges. They deep faked all the voices and it was like cartoon guys and it was awful. Yeah. But anyway. I'm surprised that you ended that with and it was awful. I thought you were going to say something else. Yeah. Well Jeff Bridges is a generational talent. Oh great. I'm surprised that you ended that with, and it was awful. I thought you were going to say something else. Yeah. Well, Jeff Bridges is a generational talent. Agreed. I mean, he's not Beau Bridges.

That's true. It is true. Mason, this is by variety for the MCU's. Robert Downey Jr.'s payday for Doomsday and Secret Wars potentially revealed. Okay. And let me just say that they're just saying that he's not working at a discount if you thought he was going to come in and do it for free. I thought he would do it for goodwill.

No, he doesn't want to do that. That's interesting. He wants to do it for lots of money. I thought he wanted to do it because he loves acting. He does love acting. And he wants to bring acting. People are loving what he's doing. Everyone who's commenting is like, you're not going to believe what he's doing for

Avengers or whatever. You're not going to believe his doctor. You're not going to believe the quality of acting he brought to Robert Downey Jr.'s funny little cars that run on corn or whatever. That show that he does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Marvel is apparently plunking down $80 million for Anthony and Joe Russo to direct the two movies.

Okay, so they're- It's like $40 million each. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's $80 million in their joint banking. Okay, that's good. But apparently Robert Downey Jr. is going to get significantly more. Whoa. To tackle the, tackle the oop-a-villain Doctor Doom. Okay.

Downey is by far the highest paid member of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and apparently has pulled in anywhere between 500 and 600 million so far. This is prior to this. So if it's upwards of 80 million, people are saying, I don't know, 100 maybe? Uh-huh. 100 for these two movies. Wow. Worth it? I don't know.

I mean these are probably billion dollar movies, but I don't think they're going to hit the two billion that the other ones did. I'd imagine. I don't know. What do you think? I mean Wolverine and X-Men did a bit of a deal. That did quite well. That did very well.

And that was things we saw before. And maybe people are like, I'm not gonna see all the the maybe at this point people are like well I'm not gonna see all the Disney plus TV stuff. I'm not gonna watch the in-between movies. I'm not gonna watch Captain America I'm not gonna watch Thunderbolt. I'm gonna watch him. I'm saving. I'm saving. I'm saving my coin Yeah, or just the Avengers movies. Yeah, cuz they're like, yeah, you know what? I'll understand. I'll get I'll get the gist of it I'll basically know who all the characters are and I get to see Thor and Iron Man again, so that's what I want. That's what I want to do. I mean, this is a big gamble, but maybe it pays off in exactly the way they want, and

they'll learn all the wrong lessons. For a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until the next thing. I mean, why do you think people aren't, we'll talk about it, oh, we can talk about it now, why do you think people aren't seeing this Fantastic us like flocking to it as much as prior? Also bearing in mind, it's not bombing. It doesn't seem to have the legs of Superman. It's got a drop off which is, I think, better than what the Captain America 4 did, but yeah, but worse than Thunderbolts

maybe? It was front loaded. So I think it seems like people who wanted to see this did and then dropped right off. Again, not right off, but yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it's just, if I had to guess, I would say it's just a combination of people have been disappointed by a bunch of them in a row and just like, I'm not going to take a chance on this. Maybe they shouldn't spend so much money on them, maybe. But with the new X-Men movie, they're going to do a cast that's not as well known. So they can chart way less.

Also when you're doing a team movie like that, you can't stack the cast. No, that's true. Because you're just going to end up paying everybody a $50 million. They're going to have to, yeah. And they can't be doing that. That's right. And this is the thing, because the X-Men, obviously there's a bunch of young members and whatever. Where are they going to draw them from? They can't draw doing that. That's right. And this is the thing, because the X-Men, obviously, there's a bunch of young members and whatever.

Where are they going to draw them from? They can't draw them from Euphoria. They're all in their mid to late 20s. They're all dead. They've all got podcasts. You can't get any Stranger Things kids. They're all aged out. All the Game of Thrones kids have aged out.

They're all dead. They're all dead. That's right. Their deaths were real. Yeah, their deaths were real. In that show. Yeah. Anyway, let's do some updates.

Just some updates? On Marvel movies. It's part of the MCU's. Blade and Deadpool 4 apparently. You were going to say Deadpool. Marvel Studios is reportedly not rushing the development of the long-awaited Blade reboot. Are they not? Are they not rushing that? No, they think they announced six years ago. No, they're not. When we were men in our mid to early 30s.

That's right. Yeah. And the potential Deadpool 4. Apparently there has been talks with Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman about their next appearances Deadpool and Wolverine. But I'd imagine that's going to be Avengers Doomsday and whatever. Absolutely, yeah. In the void and you know, they go in the void and they're like, I can't believe I'm back in the void.

I just got out of here. Hey, Wolverine, what are you doing in the void over here? I go in the void and they're like I can't believe I'm back in the void I just got out of here. Hey, what were I? What are you doing in the void over here? I can't even swear in this movie. And so on. Yep. Et cetera. And as for Blade the project still has no official director or release date.

Six years. Yep. But at least they sold all those costumes to sinners. That's exactly right. Yeah. And at least they let Mahershala Ali out to do one movie, to do a Jurassic Park movie. That's true. It seems like so far Blade has just acted as a cupboard for the movie sinners.

That's right. A thrift store for the movie sinners. That's right yeah. We're blowing them out the door these costumes. We couldn't find, we couldn't, we can write a single scene with this stuff in there so you can have it for a cost price. That's right. Yeah. Apparently ideas though are percolating on the Ryan Coogler Helmed Black Panther 3. Okay.

Creating excitement internally. That's what you want. In your body excitement. Yep. The Hot Bike podcast, they said that February 2028 will be the release date. This is after all the Avengering. Presumably they're going to settle on a new Black Panther. Seems that way.

And then they're going to go from there. And then, because apparently, again, we've talked about this, but these Avengers movies, they're not going to be the culmination of something. They're going to be the start of something else. Terrific. Some people have said in the week subsequent to Fantastic Four that if they are going to reboot the Marvel Universe, a good idea might be to reboot it into the Fantastic Four world. Yeah.

Which I would like, but I don't think the general audience I also don't think would like it. It's also expensive. It's also expensive. You've got to create everything. Yeah, but the idea being obviously that maybe there's some sort of battle world, all the universes come together. And whichever actors and characters want to remain. Who wants to come in this portal?

Exactly. They can go in the portal. But if, say, Chris Hemsworth doesn't want to be Thor anymore, then they recast Thor. And they're like, oh, this is the Thor from this universe. And I would love to see a 1960s style Iron Man, for example. I think it would be a great look. Agreed.

But again, I don't think, I think the general audience says that I'm not looking for that because it's too cute and twee and kind of, you know. I think it seems like, I don't know, it was a bad idea to put this to also two weeks after Superman. Yeah. I think maybe at least a month out would probably, I mean you could have, August pretty much could have been theirs. I feel like the discourse on the internet is it's still Superman and it's not Fantastic Four at all.

Even though Fantastic Four, pretty good. I liked it. Yeah. I liked it. I mean it's no Superman movie, I liked better. Yeah, correct. Yeah. That Superman movie was pretty good.

It was pretty good. It was pretty good. It was pretty good. It was pretty good. A lot of discourse about Mr. Handsome, who's that weird River Sticks mutant man who ferries people through the pocket dimension. The backstory behind that guy apparently is it's the first clone Lex ever made and he's got a soft spot for him. So he's got a photo of him on his desk. I think that's nice.

That is nice. Harrison Ford was asked if Marvel's Kevin Feige had convinced him to return to the MCU in some capacity. Of course he was Big Red Hulk. He was. And General Ross, President General Ross. And he Ford answered, nope. So the question was, has Kevin Feige asked you or has Kevin Feige convinced you?

Convinced you. Okay, right. No. Okay, great. I mean, for a $50 million I bet he could. Yeah, that's right. No. Okay, great. I mean, for a $50 million, I bet he could. Yeah, that's right. And THR confirmed that Michael Mando and Mark Ruffalo are officially joining Spider-Man brand new day, new Spider-Man. And Michael Mando is Scorpion.

He's Scorpion. Right. It seems to be from some of the set leaks and some rumors that it's probably going to be, there's going to be a Mr. Negative maybe in it. And I think it's going to be a Mark Ruffalo, I think it's going to be a Hulk punish the Spider-Man, they all fight each other and then they become mates. That's a fun team up I think. I think it's fun.

What an odd pairing. Yes. Three odd ducks. Correct. Anyway, speaking of trailers ahoy. Honk. There's a brand new trailer for Spider-Man Brand New Day. Did you see it?

It's not a trailer. Did you see all nine seconds of it? It's a teaser, I did see it, yeah. Yeah. It's a sort of a slow pan around the new, what we presume is the new suit. Yeah, we don't know that for a fact. Is there, I think there is a full-

It's a bit odd for a punished suit, don't you think? What did I say? No, I just thought of, you did say the right thing, I'm just doing something else. That's great. I'm doing something else right there. Just trying something else? Just trying something out, what do you think?

Okay, yeah, and I thought it was good. Yeah. Yeah, you didn't think that. You stopped for too long. Okay, Spider-Man suit. I think yeah, I think there's a... Well, there's someone's pieced it together. No, this is from, okay, this is from the Twitter account MarvelousRealms. So I don't know if it's real. Could be AI. Great. And it says the first officially look at the new Tom Holland Spider-Man suit. The first officially look. Yeah. This is real. So it is the... No. That's Spider-Man a Lotus. Yeah. I mean I think it will be something like that. Yeah right. Uh-huh. What are people commenting? On this particular post? Yeah. Probably fake and then some slurs. Grok is this real? I reckon... How would

Grok know? I recognise this instantly. Yeah, it's the Spider-Man Lotus suit. Okay, right. In that movie where everybody turned out to be racist. Everybody turned out to be a racist. We should look at this. We should, I guess. Do we want to give money and attention to racists?

I mean, you do. I don't. But if you want to do it, I'll do it. That's true. That is true. All right. But anyway, so, okay, but I would say that the The spider-man suit we got in that tiny little teaser. It looked more black and red to me than the blue and red What do you think? Because the again the post

Spider-man no way home suit was blue and red. Yeah, it was very kind of comic booky smooth No, yeah, no MCU lines kind of thing and it wasn't real. No, they ever make a real I don't think so. Okay, right and this is raised webbing's and a raised check chest logo Yeah, what I think this is also doing and I might be wrong. Okay, I think this is gonna be an actual practical suit Yeah, I think that's what they're also teasing because often with the spider-man suit. Mm-hmm He might wear a thing and then they'll just smooth it all over. Yes Uh-huh.. In the original, if you look at the behind the scenes of Civil War, he does have a suit with the black raised webbing in it. Right. And then they just zipped over the top. Yeah. Gave it the old zip over

the top. Yeah. People, I mean, I imagine a lot of our listeners know this, but. Who's does? Because they're all smart. Yeah. We established they're all very smart. I think so. Okay. But like so much of that, like the Winter Soldier's arm is obviously, you know, it's rubber and then they kind of CGI out the ripples on it so it looks entirely robotic. Or do a full digital replacement. They do a full digital replacement. Or sometimes they'll just put him in a leather jacket and then they don't have to worry about it. Which is the smarter play, really.

I agree, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, when's this out? Apparently also it might be, even though it comes out after the first Avengers movie, it's going to be set before. Okay then. So July 31st. Why not add an extra level of complication to a universe that is spiraling to its end? I agree. July 31st, 2026. This is Destin Daniel Cretton who did Shang-Chi as well. Oh yes, that's right. When's Doomsday out? Let me check. That's out. December of 2026. Okay. I guess that makes sense. Did they move the date of that? Did they? James,

I don't know any dates. I don't know a single date. I think we talked about it. Anyway, speaking of dates. Okay. Avatar, Fire and Ash. Take a date. Take a date. Take a date. Can't go wrong. Be like, remember these? And you'll be like, I am know be like oh actually it's interesting then you know They actually have never had any cultural footprint or something. You know just they've just both made two billion dollars Yeah, just just remember something you've read off the internet and just say it to your dad And they'll love it, but maybe this is the one we'll have that will have no impact. That's right. Yeah, say mmm What did you see in this new trailer that made you go? Wow? I'm happy to be back Spider yep look by the going to be okay. Where's Spider? Yep. Is Spider going to be okay?

I think he ultimately he will be okay. I don't think they're going to kill Spider. They should kill him. Oh, you think so? Wow. I'm just saying. Okay. So they go to a volcano planet, same planet, but there's a volcano on it.

There's some red avatars. Yes, that's right. I mean they're blue, but they got red headdresses. Una Chaplin is one of them. I was going to say, do you know who the- It's Una Chaplin. Una Chaplin, Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter. I was going to say, do you know who the- It's Una Chaplin. Una Chaplin, Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter?

That's right. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. She was Game of Thrones, actually. Was she? Yeah, it's one of them. Do you think that, do you think this is, do you think she's been cast in this because she was the perfect fit for the role,

or do you think it's because James Cameron went, Una Chaplin, Chaplin, something to do with the forefront of cinema. I'm at the forefront of cinema. Put her in. Yeah, maybe. Do you think he thought that or do you think he went whatever? I think that he does seem to kind of think whatever about something. Whatever, don't you reckon? He's seen, James Cameron seems to think whatever, but- You better do what the- Subliminally, I think he knows what he's doing, but his voice says whatever. Do you get that vibe about him? Yeah, totally, yeah.

And he is very particular. And he'll make you do it again and again until it looks like the movie Avatar. Which is really hard, by the way. The big whale's back, the big friendly whale. That's true, yeah. Fire. Big emphasis on fire. There's not a lot that I would call...

The trailer does not, unless I saw... No, I saw. It's an odd one. It didn't seem to be narrative. Oh, narrative. Narratively, I'm like, okay, well, clearly they're going to meet another tribe and then there's going to be trouble and the new tribe isn't going to get along with the old tribe. They're going to learn a lesson about their culture and whatever.

Yes. I think there's going to be bad avatars in it, bad blue people. Oh yeah, that's right. James Cameron was actually asked by Empire, they said James Cameron, you're 71 years old. Do you think you'll direct avatars four and five? And he said, I mean, there's no reason not to, I'm healthy, I'm good to go. Which is that vibe you're talking about that he projects. That's right, exactly.

I guess, if you want me to, I'll go to go, which is that vibe you're talking about that he project projects. I guess if you want me to Yeah, yeah, I don't care. I look I have no problem with these movies I even like the first the second one more than the first one. Yes, uh-huh, but I don't know man I just I would like to see him do Terminator 2 not terminator 2 he did that but like a new Okay franchise new property new, new cast of characters. He's doing another thing isn't he? It is, but he's not, I don't think he's directing James Cameron.

Is this going to be the rest of his life? This is his 70. So, I mean, you know, those people interviewing him are probably, Probably wrong. Yeah. Well, he's's gonna be 71 soon because he was born on August 16th okay wow wow wow so particular and that's what I like about that's exactly right mmm now let's see he's crawling through

all his wives something something how long that page filmography here we go here we freaking go yeah okay just as Avatar Fire and Ash, 2029 Avatar 4. I swear he's working on something else as well. Well, I know he was in four episodes of Entourage. Does that help? That helps a lot. He was an executive producer on the 2023 TV adaptation of True Lies. Oh. He played himself in an episode of Mad About You in 1998.

No. I feel I know what you're talking about, like he did something in it, something in that, no he did something. But what was it? I don't know. But I would also, what I'm, my feeling is that he, this is, the next one, and I think we said this when we reviewed the previous Avatar, these are not going to be surprising in terms of narrative. They're just going to be the same thing really again. of narrative. They're just going to be the same thing really again. It's just going to be... But again, you know, he writes a compelling... There is an art to, you know, when you watch it like a Top Gun Maverick or something like that, there is an art to a very simple,

straightforward script that keeps... and a narrative in a movie that keeps you kind of on your toes. And there's beach football or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we're not breaking any new ground here, but... I don't want any new ground broken. But I think the ground that is being broken is the flawless visual effects. And at a certain point, again in the last one, I'm like, man, this is absolutely sameless. Again, the integration of the human character where he's clambering over fully CGI environments and there is not a pixel out of place kind of thing.

And I think that's what his journey is now, James Cameron. We're all on different journeys. That's true. I'm going to finish this Coca-Cola that does nothing. Now that's a journey. I also want to see that whale jump out and then it lands in a big volcano and it goes and it burns up with lava. Okay. Are you interested because of the technical aspects of that? How they gonna pull that off? Oh, what do you want to see a big space whale? You just see a big space whale in intense pain. Okay

And the camera zooms or zooms it Yeah, yeah, boiling out of its head. It's screaming and the earth is shaking because it's affecting the planet of Avatar. And Jake Sully's like, why'd you even do that? And it's like, I don't know, man. I just thought it'd be funny. I mean, yeah, it is, but... All right, Mason, Primal War.

You know this? I don't know anything. You saw the trailer. It's about Vietnam War, but it I know this. I don't know anything. You saw the trailer It's about being done more, but it's a Jurassic Park. Yes. I saw this prior to our my viewing of I mean I'm like, oh, this is straight. Yeah, so, you know, I do know yeah It's got Ryan Quentin It's basically Jurassic Park being on more. It's what Kong Skull Island did for Jurassic. Yeah, and this is sort of You know you you have you have said repeatedly you want...

Dinosaur stuff. You want more dinosaur stuff. And you said that for a very long time. You said, I don't care what kind of dinosaur stuff it is as long as there's more dinosaur stuff. I said any old crap. Then we got the movie 65 and you're like, ooh, maybe I was a little bit hasty. This movie's okay.

If I recall. No, and as are all the Jurassic Park slash World movies of late. Anyway. But you refavor this? I mean, it's interesting. It's interesting that they, what like the budget on this would have to be like maybe 30 million. Oh, yeah. And the fact that it looks like this, I think is interesting. Like it looked really solid.

All the two minutes of shots we've seen. Yeah, I don't know, man. This is, uh, Anthony and Gruber's in it. Who? Ryan, uh, he was, he was fake Han Solo. Trissia Helfer is in it. She's Battlestar Galactica. That's right, and Ryan Quanton is in it. That's right.

And that's good too. That's right. He was Quanton-mania. I'm Quanton-mania. In Ant-Man and the Lost Quanton-mania. I'm Quanton-mania now. So this is kind of in the, is that Jeremy Piven? Yes.

Oh boy. Oh boy. That's a good old boy, isn't it? Yeah, it is. He was in Entourage, wasn't Piven? Yes. Oh boy. Oh boy. That's a good old boy, isn't it? Yeah, it is. He was in Entourage, wasn't he? It's true, he was, yeah. That's a good movie. Okay.

So is this in, this is in the longstanding tradition of, it's World War II, but then some weird, or Vietnam and some weird, even weirder stuff is happening. So Overlord. Oh yeah. World War II, but zombies and stuff. That was great. I liked Overlord. I should watch that again.

This should be fun. Look, it's a fun looking genre. Yep, well it's out August 21st, we can maybe do an episode on it. We can do an episode on it. Hm. Trifika. Ryan Quentin. Yes.

Really good. Like him all the time. What do I know him from? Uh, well he was in Home and Away. Oh yes. But then he did a bunch of other stuff. Nice. He did a Australian Western that I really like.

Oh, he was in True Blood. Oh, True Blood. That's right. Red Hill, yeah, he's at the Australian Western in 2010 called Red Hill, which I really like. Okay, all right. Did he do Red Dog? No, he didn't.

The movie about a red dog. I mean, a lot of people are in Red Dog. No, he didn't, I just about a red dog. I mean a lot of people are in Red Dog. No, he didn't. I just checked his name. Is he in the movie Kangaroo? Yeah. Kangaroo? I'm a kangaroo.

Is he in Blinky Bill the movie? Yep. He is. It's true. He's the voice of Blinky Bill. He plays himself in The Eric Andre Show in 2014. Okay. That's fun.

Anyway, Mason, we've got to move it along because Peacemaker Season 2 has a trailer. That's right. And that's a trailer. That's right. I mean, it's certainly a trailer and it's also, it answers some questions and it brings up more questions about the status of the DCU, what is canon from the previous DC movie universe, is this, this doesn't seem to be, so in this one, in this trailer, we learn that Peacemaker is going to another universe. I don't think it's the DCEU, but it's just a universe where everything's nice. Everything's nice and Peacemaker was

a big time hero and everybody loves him and he's got a beautiful selection of Versace silk shirts or whatever. Ooh yeah. So yeah, I know James Gunn has talked about what's canon and what's not, but is this the original version of Peacemaker or is this like Peacemaker like a lot of the things that happened in the first season of Peacemaker but not everything? Because I know they've talked about that as well how like the Justice League stuff from that first one is not. But also Peacemaker kills Rick Flagg and the Suicide Squad and that's also mentioned in Creature Commandos. So I believe the last time I saw anything about this, James Gunn said that if it's referenced

in a previously on or somebody mentions it in a show or a movie, it's canon. And until that happens, it's not canon. That's regarding anything that happened in the DCU to the DC, EU rather, to the DCU. But what does that mean for this season? Is this like a direct sequel to the first season or is this in the DCU. But what does that mean for this season? Is this like a direct sequel to the first season or is this in the DCU? I would say it is in the DCU and anything they reference from the previous season is canon to it. So it's technically not the same guy is what you're saying.

I think it is technically not the same guy. Interesting. Yeah. God, that's wild stuff Mason. I'm just looking at this trailer now. But it is played by the same guy. New outfits, new helmets. Motorcycle. Motorcycles. Yeah. Yeah. God, that's wild stuff, Mason. I'm just looking at this trailer now. But it is played by, yeah. New outfits, new helmets.

Motorcycle. Motorcycles. Being chased by himself. Rick Flagg still doesn't have grey hair. He said he would have grey hair. Oh, I like how Tim Meadows is in it as well. I like his character. I like how they open up one of the dimensions and it's an awful hell dimension.

Oh yeah. That's fun. But do you think that's a reference to anything in the comics or just the hell dimension? Apparently it's not, but you know what there's probably something at parallels to Michael Rooker is in it we say here what's his name that kung-fu master guys back judo master is back there you go work judo master apparently is a pretty cool opening dance they redo the sake oh that's right somebody was somebody oh Frank Rillo said I think he wasn't he was like I

don't know about this dance thing, but I'm a professional. So again, it's one of those ones where everybody in the cast has to do the dance. So that's fun. A Peacemaker's Dad is back, played by Robert Patrick, but I guess he's not a racist now. Yeah, he's in a cool dimension where he's not a racist. He's still White Dragon, I guess. Maybe that's cool in that other dimension.

Maybe it's cool in that dimension. Yeah, so yeah. August 21st by the way, the same date as Primal War. Ah, so that's where you're going to choose. Well, I'll choose this obviously. Okay. Because I love the show. Okay. It's good and fun.

All right then. So yeah, I mean James Gunn was saying he's hit the ground running because he's not only writing the follow up to Superman, which is not technically Superman 2, but it will have Superman in it. And he's also doing promo on this now. So we're off to the races, Mace. And speaking of being off to the races, White Dragon. But also James Bond has a new writer. That's true. This is what you're telling me. I told you this earlier. You gave me a call. It was so early. It was 5 AM.

That's right. I said, I've just learned this. Yeah. I thought something had happened to you. I mean, it had. Well, it had. You got big news. I learned that. That's right. And you said only call if there's an emergency.

Or big news. But you didn't specify what that meant. Yeah. And that's on me. That's right. Anyway, why don't you tell the listeners what you were telling me at 5am. It's been confirmed that the director for the upcoming Denis Villeneuve. Director.

Yeah, I know. No one, he doesn't do the bloody news every week. Well, I was going to say the director of the new Denis Villeneuve Bond movie is Denis Villeneuve. You didn't let me finish. Now you look like a fool. That's my fault. And I will call you to apologize at 5am.

That's right. But the writer is Stephen Knight, who's a British screenwriter. Yep. He wrote the screenplays for the films, Closed Circuit, Dirty Pretty Things and Eastern Promises. He also wrote and directed the film Lock, which is the Tom Hardy movie where he's in a car the whole time. Oh yeah, Locked. This is also not to be confused with Stephen Estenite. Oh yes, different guy. He was a different guy.

He created Peaky Blinders and also a show called SAS Rogue Heroes which a lot of people like. Haven't seen that. Yep. He directed... blinders yeah also show called SAS rogue heroes which a lot of people like haven't seen ah yep he directed well they like oh this is an oldish British guy yeah I think that's probably the vibe yeah like we can't get the and or guy because he's not British but this guy yeah yeah yeah I did the movie serenity wasn't that movie insane wasn't that an insane movie? Oh so not the firefly serenity No, the Matthew McConaughey one, which is set in a virtual nightmare. I haven't seen that one. I want to watch this.

He wrote the movie Burnt, of course, as we know. Featuring Bradley Cooper as Balky Burnt. Where he's like, you know what's good about being a chef's born? Yeah, actually nothing. Nothing? Yeah, that was the ultimate realization. He also wrote for Sea and Taboo, which I think are both Jason Momoa TV series. Oh, that's Jason. Jimmy Samoa's got an even newer TV series.

He does too, yeah. He wrote for War Chief or whatever. C is the one where nobody can see except for Jason Momoa. No, his kids or something. Yeah, Taboo is the one with Tom Hardy. Oh, okay. He loves a Tom Hardy situation. Yeah, created by Stephen Knight, Tom Hardy and his father Chips Hardy.

Chips Hardy? Chips Hardy. Did you watch the 2013 action film Hummingbird with Jason Statham because he directed that? No, Jason Statham was busy that day so I saw it by myself. And what was it like? I don't know, I can't remember. Have you actually seen it? I haven't seen it, no.

Interesting. No. Alright. Alright, not bad. Now do you think, now he's known, not it, no. Interesting. No. Alright. Alright. Not bad. Now do you think, now he's known, not known, but he's done some period stuff. Yes.

Specifically Peaky Blinders. Peaky Blinders, yeah. Which is also not the... And I think the most relevant one here is probably SAS Rogue Heroes, which is about the formation of the SAS. So I reckon... Is that what we're doing? Hmm, I would like that to be the case.

Yeah. But I reckon maybe they just like give us a kind of an old school sensibility to this, maybe, you know, he's the writer is apparently is a writer on who wants to be a millionaire and has been since 1998. Oh, wow. That can't be true. Could be true. Is this Tom Hardy taboo series good?

I don't know, man. I think I watched two minutes off at once. Anyway, sorry. Go on. Uh, yeah, I think it's going to be old school sensibility. It's going to be like, and then James Bond drank a whiskey on the rocks. Was he allowed to do that? Or is he going to be bald and bald as brass?

He is in an AA meeting. It's rude, certainly. Yeah, you can't do that. James Bond is the kind of guy to drink a whiskey on the rocks in an AA meeting. That's true. Yeah. All right. I'm excited for this.

Yeah, I think it's a good choice. And he did that Tom Hardy series, which I didn't watch and other things. Yeah. I don't know if this is also the kind of guy who's like, everything's too woke nowadays. Like, or just to make a statement to the press. That is a fear that we all have. If someone's going to say that, then we go, oh. Yeah.

You know, he's got to look like, his general press photos look like he's an easy going guy. I literally just started Peaky Blinders for the first time. It's great. He's got seven kids this guy. That's a good amount of kids. That's what you want. Is that what you want? Definitely.

I'll settle for six. Okay. Mason. Yes. It's one more thing. We're going to talk about the future of the Predator franchise. We talked a little bit about this last week, but I thought we could talk about it here. Did we talk about it last week or was it in our own lives?

I can't remember. Anyway, here we are. We've got no secrets from the listeners. We certainly don't. Ask us anything and we'll tell you anything. Won't be, we'll lie, but we'll tell you anything. We will lie. There's going to be a lot of lies.

Yeah, we have a lot of secrets. That's right. This was revealed at the San Diego. We're not going gonna tell the stupid people I don't think so. There's gonna be spoilers for the big spoiler Coming back Bwa time code below to skip the spoilers time code probably won't be accurate because of ads and stuff That's right. Just turn off the podcast not Collings faults

No, but also not our faults don't ask him or us about it. Just leave it. Waa, waa, waa. At San Diego Comic Con they revealed that Arnold Schwarzenegger's Dutch and Danny Glover's Lieutenant Mike Harrigan, they are the protagonists from Predator and Predator 2, they have now been inserted into the end of Predator Killer of Killers, which is the latest animated Predator anthology movie. Being added to the cryo sleep next to Amber Midthunders' character from Prey, is that correct? We should put some spoilers in here.

Yes. Collin, prior to this, put this in. There's going to be spoilers for the movie. Big spoiler alert. Big spoiler coming up. Wham, wham. Big spoiler alert! Big spoiler coming up! Anyway, speaking of, so yeah, we see at the end, Amber, Midthunders character, has been cryosleeped. That's also what happened to the three protagonists in that film. They're all from different time periods and they go to fight in a predator battle world or whatever.

And you also see Dutch and Mike Harrigan, which is his name. But they're also the age they are. Murtagh. Murtagh. They're also the ages that they are around their movies, which I think kind of sucks because that means they're only going to return in animated form unless they have an adventure and then they're dropped back and then they're able to age up in real time. Right. But I don't know, man.

Just out of line where they're like, thank God we got dropped off and we got gauged up in real time. But it would have to be that predator killer of killers or whatever that thing is called. Yes. Was hopefully set in like the mid-90s. Luckily Predator Killer of Killers was set in the mid-90s. And then we got dropped off. So then we got dropped off and aged up.

It also kind of defeats the purpose of like defeating a predator. When is Predator 2 set? Like 1997? It's the future. Yeah. Like you defeat a predator and they go good job and then they give you like a reward. Yes. And then they come back and fucking get you. I guess they do sometimes. Not sometimes, that room is like packed. It's true, yeah. I don't know, it's like collecting action figures. It's like Funko Pops with people that kill Predators. So you don't like this?

No, I don't. Interesting, okay. I think it's kind of, I mean, I don't know, I mean, who knows what they do with it. This is also leading towards more alien Predator crossover stuff. Yeah, yeah. But I guess, I mean, I guess getting Schwarzenegger and Danny Glover back. I mean, you can just have them voice characters.

That's, I mean, that is, that is the simplest solution. You know, they're, they're not doing as much. I mean, Schwarzenegger is only doing FUBAR, the TV series. That's cancelled. It's cancelled. Well, he's, he's, he's wide open for, he's wide open to get real fit for another Predator movie, I guess. Sure. Yeah.

All right. We'll see what happens. What's Danny Glover done recently? Dunno. Yeah. Probably like, he's probably hanging out with Michael Palin. From Monty Python? Yeah, I just think they might be friends. They could be. What is it, what is he, so yeah, he's 79, Arnold would have to be what, around that. Sure. Yeah. He was in Angels in the Outfield. Oh, that's good. He was in Lonesome Dove. He was in The Naughty Nine. From 2013. No, 2023, sorry.

This is all good stuff. I agree. Alright Mason, should we move along to the thing we're talking about this week? Yes, but I think, yeah, I'm sure they would be happy to come back. You should have said no. Oh no, definitely. They put them in here on purpose. So we would see them in here on purpose. Yeah. So we would see them do something.

Yes. Yeah. Anyway, I do like Danny Glover. And then we put Danny Glover in Mortal Kombat. You're going to get Mortal Kombat collection with a K? Am I? Yeah. No.

You got a switch though. That's true. And you got a door, you got a gym. So you got to think about it. It's true. I should do pull-ups and play Mortal switch though. That's true. And you got a door, you got a gym, so you got to think about it. That's true. I should do pull-ups and play Mortal Kombat Collection. That's right. Mm-hmm.

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On a budget of $17 million. But I say that, but I wonder how much of that is because they made a deal. They sold it to Neon. Okay. In a furious bidding war after a screening. It was a furious bidding war. Yeah. So they got $17 million for it.

So I mean, kudos. Kudos indeed. That's good stuff, Mason. And the US five-day opening for this is between $10 and $11 million, which according to Deadline is on par with Midsummer's Wednesday to Sunday take when it came out. Ah, not this weekend. No, Mason, not this weekend. Okay, all right.

Midsummer didn't make $17 million this weekend. No, Mason, not this weekend. Okay, all right. Midsummon didn't make 17 million dollars this weekend. No, man. So also the competitions, you know, this is some counter programming, because Superman is still holding. Fantastic Four, as mentioned, is it's still out there and making money. That's true. Naked Gun has come out everywhere in the world except here, apparently. Yeah, we're getting like three weeks.

Yeah. So yeah, that's kind of where we're at. So even in the non-spoiler part of this big spoilers there will be spoilers the premise is a spoiler Wham wham f1i just in case yeah for sure all right. Yeah, what do you think the story was? Oh? Come on man. You put me on the spot like this. I always do I'm gonna think of what the story was in this movie okay so there's this couple yep Tim and Millie yep Dave Franco and Alison Bray mm-hmm and they're like we get out of this big city yeah if you get to this big New York City mm-hmm we're gonna we're gonna go somewhere that only the V line goes out of town a little town they'd go to a little town and we're gonna go there and it's gonna be actually great. That's right

But what if this town had some weird water in it? Yeah, and you drink the weird water and then you get mushed together Hypothetically hypothetically no spoilers, but hypothetically. Yeah happen there, you know Yeah, what if there was a bunch of weird stuff in this town? So yeah, people are saying, I saw some headline that was like, this is the replacement for the substance this year. It was like a weird headline like that, which is like- It's a completely different movie. That's not how movies work. It's not a new movie that comes out and they go, well, this replaced the old movie.

That's right. Replace it in your brain, never think about the previous one ever. The only, I mean, they're similar in the sense that they both have elements of body horror. Correct. But they're not similar at all, thematically or otherwise. Correct. Also, I should point out- This isn't about beauty, even though it's got beautiful people in it.

Sure. And some Argos. A few Argos. It's in Australia. Yeah, that's right. I mentioned this before, but I think it's worth mentioning. Michael Shanks, who directed this, I know him. He was going to come on the podcast before this.

He'll probably come on at some point. I don't know. I mean, he went on Alexi's podcast. Yeah, I know. What the hell, man? Who we even saw earlier this week, or last week, I should say. So I saw a cut of this about a year ago. On the big screen?

Well, he had a laptop and he plugged it into a thing and then went on the screen. Oh, nice. It was in a private screening. That's great. It had unfinished effects, credits weren't all there. And he said he wasn't gonna finish those effects? No, he didn't want to. You said don't finish those effects.

I said don't bother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not worth fixing, this sucks, I said. Color grading wasn't there. There's probably some minor edits. Okay. But I didn't notice anything significant. It seems to be pretty much all here.

There's little things. I was speaking to one of the producers, Mike Cowap, who worked on it. Oh, you know everybody. You're best friends with everybody. I only met him once, but he worked on Smiling Friends and also Koala Man, among a bunch of other stuff. Animated stuff. Yeah.

I was like, what's up with Koala Man? It was like it got canceled because of the thing that happened. Cause it was linked to Justin Royland. Oh, sure. He was like, and then Disney kind of buried it it. I'm like I watched it. I thought it was really good. But anyway. Well if you could watch it 10 million more times, maybe they get another season. True. But he said that they replaced the train. There's a train sequence in this because it's filmed in Australia. When we say a train sequence, there's a sequence where somebody's going to get a train. It's not a knife fight on top of a train.

They replace a V-line with an American train. Because... It looks like a V-line though. Maybe there's another one, but there's definitely like a purple and orange themed one that's going to Warrnambool or whatever. Yeah. Which I enjoyed. Totally.

This is set in a sort of... It's meant to be set in America. Oh, all this is to say that like, I mean, I liked this a lot, but maybe you don't want to take my opinion on that despite everybody else seeming to like it. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. Well, maybe they all know Michael Shanks. Maybe they all do, yeah.

Maybe he's getting around, being friends with everybody. He's like, hey, do you want to come to this exclusive screening of this movie? Because we're friends. And they're like, I will. And they were all there. Sorry, go on, you were saying? I don't know what I was saying. Australia something, something?

It's set in the US. Yeah. For the most part? Yeah. It does feel like it was just made in Australia and it's set in Australia. It is an Australian film. Which isn't a criticism, but to me, I'm just like, like, it could be set in Australia, which it is. There are some characters who are notably Australian. Yeah, they're just Australian in this.

But I mean, there's also some Australian actors in this doing American accents. Correct, yes. There's also a lawsuit, we should talk about this. Should we talk about it? Yeah, I think so. Okay. I mean, this is all the information that's out there. I don't have any insight into this. So it's involved Neon and Dave Franco and Alison Brie and a movie called Better Half,

which apparently was pitched to them in 2020 or was it 2021? Pitched to those two actors specifically? Yeah, all their production company. I don't know if it was them personally, but I think it was submitted maybe. I don't remember specifically. And they're saying that there's a number of elements in that that they have a similar premise. There's also, this will come up later in spoilers, but there's a particular Spice Girls song

that is used in both. And apparently both of them used the wrong album that it's on. But also, so which was like a damning indication, people were saying, well, they must have copied it because they even got the same wrong album. This movie doesn't do the wrong album it actually is the right album so that was correct that was wrong and also it was revealed later that Michael Shanks he submitted this script to the WGA in 2019 okay sure and this is all going to go through the courts and whatever and

presumably if he's revealing that then the entirety of this movie and the things were he'd already come up with. I mean a lot of this is based on his personal relationships and he lost his father when he was young as well. It does seem like a very personal film. Totally. So again this is all up in the air but this seems to be a case of parallel thoughts. Because this movie isn't really, I mean this movie is about a magic water that melds you together. But also, it's about a relationship between two people who have been together, some might

say too long. Yeah. And they are, you know, it's one of those relationships where, like, you don't know where one person ends and one person begins. And they're like, hey, we're making all these mutual decisions to go and do things and what have you. But they all, they both have, you both have needs and wants and desires and... Yeah, and seemingly sacrificing things for the other person, which they're not happy

about as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the most interesting element of this movie. I think that's what makes, maybe not the most interesting, it's a very compelling element of this movie that I think elevates it beyond just a body horror movie, which it is. It's also not a body horror movie, which it is. It's also not like, it's not crazy body horror. It's not, I think it's more like upsetting than like straight gore and blood and guts.

It's more just like, it's more kind of just like that than anything else. I mean, people even are like, they see the posters, it's like eyeballs getting close to touching, there's like lip sticking together and people, people don't like that. And I think it's very effective. That's true.

Yeah. Could this work if it were two strangers who drink a magic water? Yeah, maybe, maybe it could. Yeah. You'd have to, but it's a different dynamic. Yeah. It's a different dynamic. Yeah.

You know, you're talking sequels Mason, but there's also, I think together, but they don't know each other. Yes. But I think it's also like, maybe it doesn't work with strange together, but they met in the pub, but maybe it doesn't work with strangers. Together, but they met in the pub. But maybe it doesn't work with strangers. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

I don't know. We'll get to that more in spoilers. But yeah, the relationship element of this, and also Alison Brie and Dave Franco, they are married. That dysfunction that they have in this, and there's a distance and also a closeness between them. It feels very real. It feels very real. And also it's kind of nice.

Also at the same time, there's something like comforting about their relationship and kind of the way that this story unfolds, which I think works really well. It's also, it's pretty funny. Like it has some funny moments in it, which I enjoy. I mean, if you've seen any Michael Shank stuff, he's mostly prior to this done short films and some, some like web series as well. The Wizards of Oz.

The Wizards of Oz. He started like doing stuff on The Escapists. That's how he initially started. I've got an interview with him from like five years back. Okay. On the YouTube channel where he talks about he does a... And you end that by saying you'll never make a move. Yeah, you can't. You'll always be a failure.

Quite possibly, yeah. Yeah. It is funny. It's not a... is funny, it's not a horror comedy. No, absolutely not. It's a horror drama and there are some funny elements to it. They're not going for the laughs, but the laughs come out of the characters. They're going for the laughs. They're going for the laughs. That's right. Yeah. I mean, I think in terms of spoilers, yeah, I think I might, I don't know, everything else I kind of need to say is... Within the spoilers. Within the spoilers. But I don't know, if you like, it's got shades of like the thing, it's got shades

of the substance, it's the new the substance. It's got, yeah, it is the new the substance. Throw away the old the substance. Throw away your physical copies of the substance. it's the new the substance. It's got the, it is the new the substance. Throw away the old the substance. Throw away your physical copies of the substance. It's got shades of bring her back. Totally, yeah. As there's elements of that in this, I don't know. Probably copied it. We probably copied it.

I don't know what it is about the Australian landscape or the Australian mood that brings people to these particular elements of kind of, you know, I don't know, relationships and family combined with horror and combined with a couple of elements, which again, we can only talk about in spoilers. I think there's some prosthesis that are really effective. There's never a moment in this where you're like, that looks like fake or not real. Michael Shanks is predominantly a visual effects guy.

He's not a prosthetics guy. No, but he's also like, he does, he can do everything. He's a jack of all trades. This is one of the things we talked about in the interview. You said you were jealous of him. I was jealous the interview. You said you were jealous of him. I was jealous of him. You said you were jealous of him and even though you can do a bunch of things, you'll never make it.

You'll never make it. Yeah. So egg on my face, obviously. Correct, yes. But he said one of the things was he kind of, because the last shot he did was it's in the real world, but there's a stop motion skeleton, which is trying to get work in the modern day. And it's a carrier from the Ray Harryhausen era.

It's really great. But he's like, I'll just teach myself stop motion, which I'm sure he could do. But then he's like, what am I doing? Like I should dedicate my time to doing something. Yeah. Like this, this things that I can just hire someone to do this. Yeah. Right. And they'll do the best version of this. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So he said that like relinquishing control, but also he liked like, see he did some special effect shots in there. So when I saw it, there were some wires, because there's some moments where, you know, they're kind of being pulled towards each other, there's some wire removal stuff, and some other more prominent CGI stuff which wasn't in what I saw, which didn't affect it at all when I saw

that version. Yeah, it still worked. But yeah, he yeah, so but he's but he yeah, he finds that stuff fun like doing visual effects, even though he's obviously also wrote and directed this and among many other things. Anyway, I think it's great. Again, take that with a grain of salt because I think this is well, this is the only time I think would like I know the person who made this. So I guess that's worth disclosing and he did give me $10,000. Oh wow. So yeah. And he gave you how much? I don't think he gave me any money. Really? Yeah. He could have given you $10,000 I reckon. I mean you could give me that $10,000. Do you want it? Yeah. All right. Yeah. Obviously he didn't really give me $10,000 or ask me to say anything. I just feel like I should point that out. He gave you $20,000 and he went, hmm?

He didn't even say, can you talk about it or review it? He literally was like, do you want to say this? And that was the extent of it. All right then. Good. All right. But I don't know. I just think it's worth mentioning. Okay. Yeah. Well, I just think the Lady Doth protest too much. Well, he did give me $10,000. I was going to say, yeah.

Yeah. Best movie ever. I think it's the best movie ever. Yeah. And it's short. And it's short. Also, I think it could be a fun date movie ever. I think it's the best movie ever, yeah. And it's short. And it's short. Also, I think it could be a fun date movie. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Or could it though? I mean, obviously judge the person.

Yeah, absolutely. On that. Because it is about a movie, it is about a relationship in decline to some degree. Yeah, and depending on how squeamish they are. Or a movie, or it's about a relationship in flux. Yeah, I think that's probably more accurate. Because again, it's a couple that have been together too long and like you said, one of

them, they're both in their mid to late 30s and one of them still has dreams to be a musician and one of them's like, I'm really supportive of that. I'm a teacher. And I tell you what, I love looking at an Australian primary school and being like, God, I recognise that. Oh yeah. Yeah. There's some portables. Absolutely.

There's a Dunny. Yeah. That's right. Toilet Mason. Don't tell me. I'm telling you. All right. Spoilers, full spoilers, more spoilers.

It's time for spoilers. Yeah. So where do we go? What are we doing with this? Ooh. Well, they're slowly melding together. So Dave Franco, they fall into a cave. Yes, so they move to a little town. Only accessible by car or the V-Line. Warrnambool. Warrnambool, they go to Warrnambool. And it looked a bit monsel that.

Oh yeah, okay. I can see that. A little bit of Diamond Creek, if you will. That's even further out. Um, so they, they moved to a little town because the big town's too much. And yeah, Dave Frank has a little bit mad because he is now going to have to get trained to, to go to his music gigs. He's not happy about it. He's going to make it big anytime now and he can't drive. Uh, but then they, they go, they go hiking just as a little, cause they're, they're not, why not?

They're in Warrnambool. And they're not rude. So why wouldn't they do some other stuff to kill some time? And so they do a little hike. Oh, and prior to that, they've learned that a couple has gone missing. Yes, in this area. One of them is Michael Shanks. One of them is Michael Shanks.

That's right. They're like director Michael Shanks. He walked out in the forest. Somebody told him that he was never going to make it. So he walked out in the forest. He never came back. But then they go out walking in the forest. Somebody told him that he was never going to make it, so he walked out in the forest. He never came back. But then they go out walking in the forest and they discover a little, maybe some sort of cathedral or some sort of church that's been sunk under the ground, some bells and inscriptions and so forth. And they're tired and they're thirsty and they're like, let's just drink from this normal water. So they drink from the normal.

One of them does. Do they's just drink from this normal water. And so they drink from the normal. One of them does. Do they not both drink from the normal? Yeah, I think she doesn't because I'm pretty sure that it's only him and then when they have sex later and it's fluid. You should ask Michael Shanks. I think they both drink from the water. I don't think they do. Because they're both very thirsty.

They put, because she finishes the water and then he fills up the water. But then I think they both. But you don't see her drink see you. I think off camera they both drink. I don't think they do. Let's email Michael Shanks right now. I should. I can I can literally message. Okay. It's Instagram. It's 10pm. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Are you happy to hear from me? Probably. Yeah. Hey man, I've got to get my $10,000 worth you could say and my 10,000 steps. Also saw a theory that she was given the water by the other guy, the other teacher. Oh, you know what, that would probably make, look, the idea, because of course, the big reveal here

is of course, that upon, in this little, tidy little town, there used to be some sort of cult and we learn from a video that they had a ritual where two people who were very much in love and connected would drink this magic water and then they would cut themselves open and then they would become a single person. That's the end goal of this situation. And the reveal, of course, is that teacher was teacher was prior to that was two people. Because when you look at the, because there's a moment where Millie, Alison Breeze's character looks at a photo of him and his partner from the past. And I'm like, that doesn't look like either of them.

But also they're good actors to get to look like one guy. Like you see them, I could see how that guy, those two could make that one guy. They both look like Anthony Albanese, is my first thought. Yeah, what is that actor's name? He's in a bunch of stuff. He's in,

Australia, and he, He's in Mr. In-between? Mr. In-between, yeah. Okay, yeah. Is he, was he in The Secret Life of Us at any point? Probably. Okay. His name is, I knew it Us at any point? Probably. Okay.

His name is, I knew it was that, Damon Harriman. There we go. He's 55. Yeah. He's good also in the sense that you spend a lot of them. Oh, he's Marilyn Manson in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Oh, yeah. And also in Nightcrawler.

Oh, there you go. Or not Nightcrawler. What's that one that they can't, Minehunter? Oh, right. Yeah. He's Marilyn Manson in Minehunter? Not Marilyn Manson. Is it Marilyn? Not Marilyn. Marilyn Monroe. Alright. Yeah. He's... Marilyn Manson in Minehunter? Not Marilyn Manson. Is it Mar-

Not Marilyn. Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn Mun- No, what the fuck's his name? Charles Manson. Charles Manson, okay, alright. So he plays Charles Manson in two things. Yes.

That's amazing. I know. That's great. But he does a great performance as guy who might be sincere but also is potentially a cult lunatic. Oh my god, he's Quan Chi in Mortal Kombat 2. That's great stuff. Oh. The one coming up. Probably Lawson gave him a phone call. No doubt. You want to be in Mortal Kombat? Yeah. I was in Breaking Bad. God this goes in everything. I guess either interpretation works. My impression of this movie was that they both drank the water.

With Alison Brie and Dave Frankard both drank the water. Why was she less effective than him? We'll see then there you go. That does make a lot of sense. If only he drank the water with Alison Brie and Dave Franco both drank the water. Why was she more less affected? We'll see. There you go. That makes more that that does make a lot of sense. If only he drank the water that but also he has a he has a I guess my assumption there was he was more affected because he had the more traumatic. Yes, potentially. Yeah. His father died while in bed with his mother. Yeah. Mother went a bit mad bit mad, as you might understand. Yeah. Apparently he wanted, because you see his parents and the father's dead and the mother's like wearing this face of makeup and he said the idea was that she's just waking up every day and just putting makeup over

her old makeup and he had this image of what he wanted to do and he's like, where can I, I want to use this, where can I put this in? He put it in this and apparently that is what he was telling do and he's like, oh, where can I, I want to use this, where can I put this in? He put it in this. And apparently that is what he was telling me because we're good friends. That the studio, this is not neon, this is before I went to neon. Well, like you don't need that, cut it out. And I was like- I'm going to be real with you, man.

Yeah. Probably could have cut it out. I don't reckon, I liked it. I thought it added an element of like, what is this kind of all about? Right. Like how does this tie into everything else? And it's more thematic than direct. I liked it.

I thought it added like additional scares and it added depth to like that character. You're right, it did add additional scares, but I feel like if I can be critical of your good friend at Michael Shanks, who you've been paid to be positive about, I kind of was like, it doesn't really jive with the rest of the movie kind of thing.

Like if both of them had equally traumatic pass, I think maybe that work. I mean, it does work. Yeah, I'm not, you know, I'm not telling Michael. It's like you do. Did it make you cry? It didn't make me cry. Okay, that's good.

Yeah. But then of course, the water they've drunk has given this compulsion to come together constantly. Yeah. And you're right, it is affecting one more day more than the other. And he keeps showing up at work and following around a place. Looking sweaty. Looking sweaty and weird.

Smashing into stuff. Smashing into stuff. And like when, yeah, like when, and this is in the trailer, but when she, you know, she's turning the wheel of a car, he's turning around in the shower, kind of following her in that way. So this looks great. It does look really well Yeah, I agree. And again, I think that's probably because Decisions had to be made. Yeah, as we always talk about, you know, they you can't just do whatever

You can't just do whatever you have to be like it's sucked up by the Marvel machine Yeah, we have we have a limited amount of we have a limited budget and limited amount of you have to plan this out In advance kind of thing. They look there's a there's a funny moment though But there's a bunch of funny moments in there I think the one part where like they get stuck together in the cave And usually their legs get stuck together and after tear them apart and he's like, oh, it's probably milled you Yeah, and then later and she's like you said it was milled you and he's like, I don't know what milled you is I don't know. Yeah, why would I there's a moment where they get their arms fused together and she's about to cut them

apart and just before it happens she's like, oh by the way, just so you know, I'm sorry you were right about everything. It's like, shut up, just do it. And there's that very, very tense moment where she, in that same scene where she loses control of the jig almost immediately. I was like, whoa, damn. And then it just cuts to them like all bandaged up stuff is looks incredible. We say that like the bones sliding under the skin and that God really good stuff. So yeah, they spent a lot. So they

realized that if you if you take a bunch of days of Pam, yeah, that will slow down the I guess that wasn't available in the eighties when when Damon Harriman was getting married and if you snorted it happens quicker That's exactly right moment as well And so they spend a lot of this movie kind of trying to resist the pull of this Yeah, because I think and this is probably why it It works much better if they're a couple because what happens is they have to do a real sort of speed run of Let's evaluate a relationship

Because the kid because we are going to be potentially combined into one being, so we really need to know this is the correct choice here. And I think that's a fun moment, not a fun moment, but I think it's a nice moment where Dave Franco comes to the realization, yes, this is what he's always wanted, it's not about finally being in a band or whatever, it's like we've got to embrace

what we've got here, it doesn't come every you know it comes around once in a lifetime kind of thing let's embrace this and then they're just like yeah you know what let's be one freaky being let's spice world and spice world this play the song just spice just spice the album whatever it was yeah yeah I mean there is when they do eventually decide to merge together it is kind of it is like horrific, but it's also like it's a cathartic moment. It's like an acceptance. You know, it's like a, yeah, like a gesture to each other. Now, you might know this because your best friends with Michael Shanks, but I had to learn this from the Lexis podcast. The Spice Girls sample or the needle

drop cost somewhere between a hundred thousand and $200,000. I didn't specifically, you might have mentioned it to me, but I don't remember. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it works. It works, and I guess, and you know, and it is difficult. I'm sure they, I would love to know what the alternate selections were there because it's difficult, because the idea, it needs to be a kind of very popular pop song. Yeah. Because there's a sort of a, initially there's a seemingly throwaway line where Millie says.

It's my favorite album. It's my you know I told I'm not knowing he was a big music snob I said that this was the Spice Girls were my favorite kind of thing and then it has to become poignant at the end so it can't there are songs about being together and yeah all that must have been has to be but it has to be a Yes, it has to be the pop song and then it has to be have feel nice and appropriate. Yeah at the ending Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know what the I mean cuz when you message Michael Shanks, ask him Whether they both drank the water in the cave. Okay, you also ask him if he Considered happy to be stuck with you by Hugh Ilias Lewis and his because I think that would also work I'll ask me. I think generationally maybe it wouldn't last me as a backup, but maybe yeah that happens songs Yeah, they would have to have been I would have had to have thought about it. Let me ask you this question Yeah, we do get a brief shot. Yeah, right at the end of the movie when this I do know. Yeah, so so I know what you're gonna ask. Yeah exactly Millie's parents are due to show up

Yeah at the at the house. And initially she's like, today, Franco, you shouldn't be there kind of thing. But then they finally merge together. And when they show up, there's three place settings in the house because Millie and Tim have merged into one being. Is that either one of them? And they've modified and they've fixed that and they've changed it with visual effects Or is it a is it a stand-in and they've added attributes of both of them to one person?

My understanding was that that what did he say? Because I think I think they agreed it at the door by like one endogenous person I think I might be wrong, but I think they they both stood there and then they merged them together And they probably had a clean plate. Right. But yeah, it's not obviously a real person. It's a merging of the two. Well, I'd have a clean plate too, because that Tim is a real whiz of a cook.

Sure. But also the... I don't think the one I saw, they spoke. Oh, did you watch it again? Yeah, no, I saw it again. Yeah, I went and saw it again. Yeah. Well, it just... the person there, they just say, hey. Yeah, I don't think... I can't remember with the version. I'm sure they didn't, but I might be wrong. But it's interesting, isn't it?

Yeah, it is. Because that being definitely had aspects of both of them. It had the Franco eyebrows, certainly. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good, it's a very natural looking fusion. It's not like- And it's also, you know, very wise to just have that one shot.

Absolutely. Because that's not- You don't want to do a whole sitting down sequence with that. You'd have to hire a new person. Yeah. You'd have to find somebody who looks like both of them, which would be impossible. Yeah. So I think also, like leaving it on that, it's interesting in terms of, like we won't see this, but what happens after that? Exactly.

Do you, can you still contact your old friends? What do you tell people? Do you disappear? Do you take on a new identity? Do you start the cult again? Do you start the cult again? Because you got all that magic water. But again, does it even work on people who aren't in love or know each other or have

a close relationship? Well, here's the thing though. Because as you mentioned this before, the two hikers that go missing, they're a couple. They presumably drink from the magic water yeah they don't merge correctly why is that because one of them killed themselves you see the knife oh yeah right so that's why he's tried like if I kill myself this will stop right but they did it mid merge okay right yeah if they just let it go would have been fine probably yeah or is it because they were not as compatible no you say one's got a

little got a knife yeah I just yeah yeah that's correct yes yes I don't match it but I imagine they're probably not as compatible because one tried to kill one try to get one yeah absolutely I mean maybe the merge only works if you acknowledge that it's gonna kind of happen what do you look I'm trying to mute my family funny little no I'm looking at my family chat I was laughing at you and I was looking at this family chat which keeps going you laughing to me no I'm laughing with you and I was looking at this family chat which keeps going on. You laughing at me? No, I'm laughing with you.

Don't ever laugh at me. Neville? Neville, don't ever laugh at me. Um, yeah. Neville Longbottom, don't you ever laugh at me. I'm hallucinating. He has a bunch of other stuff in the works. Oh, in the can as it were. Um, I think, because he's got a short called Time Trap.

Also Michael Shanks is not the guy from Stargate SG-1. I'm learning this as we go. I think he's got a bunch of other scripts that he's written. One of them might be Time Trap as a feature film. I can't remember. But he'll turn something around soon. I'd imagine. Well, I hope so. Me too. All right. Should we move it a lot? It was great. I liked it a lot.

A lot of fun. Yeah. Let me ask you this. And then you can ask Michael Shanks to get your money's worth. I'm not going to message any of this. No, I know you should though. Maybe if you see him again, write these down and put them in your casual conversation. Because otherwise I'm just going to run at him. Okay. Write these down and put them in your casual conversation because otherwise I'm just gonna run at it. Okay. Um, do you think that the water is a naturally occurring substance? Yeah.

Or do you think they've done some sort of ritual or something? Oh, that's interesting. Because like, surely more things would have become merged. Merged, yeah. Like insects and stuff. Dogs. Rats. Dogs.

Dogs. Dogs. Yeah, dogs. Dogs. Dogs. Dogs. Dogs. Dogs.

Dogs. Yeah, I don't know. All the dogs in the town. All the dogs in the town are Yeah, dogs. Dogs. Dogs. Dogs. Yeah, I don't know. All the dogs in the town. All the dogs in the town are movies, James. I think it's okay to never come back to this. Correct, yes.

And just leave it all out there. But I guess it's also good to know everything about a movie. How's this doing financially? Yeah, good. It's going well. Yeah, I'd imagine it'll probably end up 40 50 million Maybe nice judging nice at the moment, but I don't know It'll it'll turn a profit. I would say yeah, and we get a piece of that. Yeah, we do because we've we invested

We promoted this. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Okay, great. So that's good stuff. That is good stuff. Yeah. Anyway, honestly Really happy for it good time in the movies and he's been making stuff for so long That is true Yeah honestly really happy for it. Good time in the movies. And he's been making stuff for so long. That is true, yeah. And like a lot of people have seen that but just to get something that like this widely seen and then pick up by neon like that's huge. Yeah, it's unfortunate. I mean a lot of movies these days get the, you know, the the accusation of plagiarism or the something something and whatever like it's unfortunate he's, he's made a very personal film, which again, you've said was written a long time ago.

Oh, you're saying it like you're not saying it. You're saying that I'm saying it to resolve yourself in case this is a lie. Yes. Okay, so go on. I've lost my train of thought. No, that, that, you know, these happen all the time. There was the people that sued the matrix

and the Terminator franchise and all this sort of stuff. Because despite the fact that he's made a very personal film, it covers aspects of, you know, the idea that a couple could merge together in some way. Like, what if a couple was so close they merged together physically? That's not outside the realm of possibility that two or more people could come up with the same idea. It's in the telling that makes it unique. I said this to him as well. He's saying things to him now. We don't hang out at all.

I just want to clarify. I've met him like twice and we've spoken online. You had a lot to say the couple of times you met him though. I just saw his movie and we were just talking about it. Oh yeah. Hey man, I saw you had a movie coming. I can't talk to you briefly about it. We both watched it in the room together.

Oh wow. But it was, in the end of Wizards of Oz, to spoil a bit of that, Mark Bonanno from Aunty Donner is in that. He's one of the wizards. They merged together. And I'm like, is this from that? They merge together and I'm like is this from that? Until recently like somebody else had said it like I hadn't thought about it. Put that together. Have you done this before in something? Yeah right. Anyway there you go. This dude's obsessed with merging stuff together. He loves merging stuff together. Yeah. Which Marvel characters is he gonna

merge together? Probably one of those kids who got two colours of play dough and just mushed them all together and turned them into just brown. Made a weird brown? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude. God. What are you doing? Yeah, come on man. Alright, what's the time for? It's time for what we're reading. What? What we gonna read. What? Yeah. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Yeah This is the best part of the show. So we talk about other things that we've been watching. The only better segment of this show is every other segment of the show.

That's true. But the only thing better than those segments is this segment. Which is the best segment. That's right. Ultimate Spider-Man is coming to an end at issue 24. For real? For real? Yeah.

Okay. Issue 24. 24. I'm like, I gotta keep going with this. So I kept reading it. Okay. I'm sticking with I gotta keep going with this. So I kept reading it. Okay. I'm sticking with it. Do you think that means an end to the universe?

It was culminating in Avengers Ultimate Endgame or whatever. I see. And then, I don't know, I can't lose the creative team on this, but they're done. So I think this character will continue. But yeah, it's wrapping up, which also I'm like, good, I'll finish this. And then it's a really good contained story and I like all the elements of change. I felt like it's gone like that. I remember when the first issue came out and it was like, it's one off the shelves, you're

going to get the fifth printing order. It's too many flyers. Exactly, yeah. So I'm back on that. I'm doing another thing, but what are you doing? I finished watching the movie Heads of State, which I mentioned in a previous episode. I finally finished it. How how many times you watch it? I just the ones okay, I thought it was fun. I think I think they they

John Cedar and Elba have a nice chemistry a report as as evidence from the Suicide Squad obviously Oh, that is true. I guess they like working together, and it's pretty funny. You know it's um I also watched Here's a new one for you. Uh, the new war of the worlds. Are you familiar with this? Yeah. I didn't hate it as much as I'm sure I'm supposed to hate it. It's not good.

Yeah. So it's for people who don't know it's, it's come out, it's come out recently. It's a new adaptation of HG Wells is the war of the world. But it's modern day again. It's modern day again. There was also a series like 10 years ago. It was. Yeah.

And then there's a Tom Cruise one and whatever there's others. So it's modern day. It stars ice cube It's set entirely Within his desktop monitor. No, it's not. Yes. It is. It's one of those ones. It's one of those movies It's it's found. It's the the evolution of found footage where it's just him clicking around on his monitor for 90 minutes. And here's the thing, I think on paper they were like, this is really clever because... You don't have to film everything. Well, you don't, you absolutely don't. But because you remember there's an Orson Welles radio play version of this and famously it caused some consternation in the real world. Yeah, I know.

I mean, you know, but, but, um... I think Dugo did an episode on it. They did, yeah, and I've, I've, uh, you know, I enjoy that story. I think it's fun. Yeah. But I think they're like, what would be the modern interpretation of that? What would happen to a guy on Twitter? What if it was all on a screen? So he watches the whole thing play out and then they all die at the end or whatever?

Yeah, kind of like that, yeah. But it's interesting, what they... What's the special effects look like? Not good. Yeah. I mean, all right. Here's the thing. I'm watching it and I'm like, I didn't pay anything for this. So this is fine.

What's it on? YouTube. Amazon Prime. Could be on YouTube. Yeah. It's also got Eva Longoria, Clark Gregg from Agents of Shield. Oh yeah, I saw that. But yeah, I think they're like, what would be the newest evolution of this if it's not

a radio play? What also is interesting is it's incorporated the Tom Cruise bad dad element to it. That is now a staple of war of the world. Ice Cube plays a government terror analyst and he's got access to all surveillance equipment and blah blah blah and he's keeping tabs on his kids like his daughter's pregnant and so he like follows around on the cat like various surveillance cameras to make sure set in the US yes but he's got global access I assume or us always you like you care what's happening it's mostly the US I'm

doesn't cut to the Sydney Opera House on fire I don't think I saw the Sydney Opera House on fire, but he's like he'll call her and be like I don't eat that in that cafe cuz it's bad for babies or whatever and she'll be like dad That's like or whatever or like his his son is Playing too many video games instead of getting a real job. So yeah, so he uninstalls his game You know that cuz that's remote access to kind of things. So there's the bad dad element to it and then, you know. But I mean, it's 90 minutes, it feels quite a lot longer than that.

Yeah. You know what, premise wise, yeah, I mean, Searching did it not that long ago. See, again, Searching feels like the Bandersnatch episode of Netflix. It feels like that was the premier version of that. It was the first one and also the best one. And I think everything else... Because there's so much clicking. There's so much clicking between windows and clicking on video calls.

I bet he can't believe it either, a lot of it. He couldn't frickin' believe. He does say... Is he a guy that says damn a lot? Probably. I think they got a few of those in there. That's correct. He says it's Friday a lot. He damn a lot? Probably. I think they got a few of those in there. That's um, he says It's Friday a lot. It's Friday. It's Friday. It's next Friday. Yeah, that's right

it's yeah, I Because the searching also had like you I mean it had a more more Intrigue and more propulsion to it. Yeah, searching is great. Yeah, and I think This one it's again. Searching's great. Yeah and I think this one it's again it's just people just clicking on video calls. Yeah. It's not great but I mean it's interesting. Watch five minutes and see if you like it. I will. Thank you. Don't do that. I appreciate the offer. I watched Happy Gilmore 2. Oh yes. Better than I thought. Better than 2025 War of the Worlds. No, I don't know about that. Okay, I it does everything and refresh our memories

What do you do? You love the original happy Gilmore? Yeah, I remember you love it at the time Yeah, I mean I watched it was a kid. I've seen in like 20 plus years. Yeah Yeah, no, I like it's probably one of the stronger for me Adam Sandler comedies. I don't love a lot of his comedy, right? I think that's probably my favorite. I guess okay. Yeah, um I would agree with you I don't really like I like him yeah and I like his like serious stuff yeah I don't like particularly Billy Madison or any of those but I do like I do quite like Happy Gilmore yeah I think that's the the peak of that era and yeah like you said uncut gems and punch drunk love great and then he said didn't he say something like if he didn't want an Oscar for uncut gems he

would just start making bad movies again and And here it is. So you were saying this does something. Yeah. So I think it, oh yeah, this is in the opening, but his wife who's played Bob, what's her name? She's in Modern Family. She's in Modern Family. Oh, Sofia Vergara? No. Oh, the other one. Julie something? Julie, yes. Was she in the original yes you was Julie Bowen okay and she was also in the show Ed she was also in something else she was that's right anyway he hits her with a golf ball and kills her damn all right and then so it's 15 years on from that and he's quit golfing to burn out he's an alcoholic and whatever okay so all of those things are happening and so but

just that idea of like fringing his wife to move the character forward. Is that also so he can find another younger love interest? No, he doesn't do that. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. But she is in it. You see her in it, she pops up in dream sequences and whatever. But he's got four boys who are thuggish versions of him and one daughter who is his real life daughter. And they are quite fun. But he's about his return to golf and his anger and his alcoholism and he's aged up and whatever. Also, a lot of the people from the original movie are dead.

So they have... Carl Weathers passed away famously. So they have like, so they recast their children in this. So he'll meet somebody who's like, oh, you're that guy, but you're his son. And that happens like five times. Because isn't the Carl Weathers character basically the same? Isn't the Carl Weathers... The new one. The new one.

No he's very different. Oh he's different, okay. Yeah he's played, I think it's the dude from Breaking Bad, Huell? Oh okay. I think. Right, okay. But I haven't seen Breaking Bad in a while. Haley Joel Osment is in this?

Oh Bad Bunny's in it, it's quite funny as well. One of the Safdie Brothers is in it. Yeah, he's the villain. Okay. Oh, yeah, okay. Post Malone is in it. Yeah. Great.

LaValle Crawford is in it, yeah, so he's Chubbs Jr. Right. But he's not... But he's nothing like Chubbs. Okay. Like, at all. He's just... but he does have a Chubbs. Okay. Like at all. He's just, but he does have a wooden hand.

Like inexplicably. And Shooter McGavin is once again in this? Okay, so Christopher McDonald is fucking awesome. I agree. He's so good in this. And he's like an even more unhinged version of himself. Right. Oh, Margaret Qualley's in it as well. Ben Stelar returns.

I mentioned this, but that- In a different reality, she would be the love interest. She'd be like, okay, well, I'm inexplicably attracted to you, Happy Gilmore. Nah, there's some podcast bros in it as well. Oh, terrific. I think I just mentioned this, but Bad Bunny is his caddy. And Bad Bunny is like really pretty funny in this as well. M&M's in it.

All right, save some- Kit Caddy. Okay. Ailey Joel Osmond. Anyway, whatever. I liked it. I think it's way stronger than you'd think it would be. So this would be in the like the Beverly Hills Cop reboot.

I would say yeah, it's in that kind of. Well that's good because I like that one. So yeah, it's not perfect but it's certainly, I think probably the back third is probably not as good as the- It's interesting you're saying this isn't perfect and yet you said Michael Shanks movies together is perfect. And he paid you $10,000. Yep.

Huh. Why would that be unusual for me to do that? I don't know, man. They gave me $10,000. These guys didn't give me $10,000. What do you not understand? I mean, you're actually right there. Yeah, thank you. That's a business decision and they could have made a better one.

Anyway, yeah, should we move it along? Let's move it along. Let's do some letters. Time for letters. I had it up but I changed apps. I'm zzzing right now because you're taking so long. Why is it z's? right now because you're taking so long. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I would never and I haven't. This is not a visual medium. Mason, this is a great segment of the show. I agree. Some say it's the greatest section of the show. I think it is. People say, can we send you a letter and we say yes to weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com or head into the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group because in there, there's a thread every week

and you can post your thingamajig. That's right. Don't post your thingamajig. No, don't do that. It's a family situation in there. We don't wantamajig. That's right. Yeah. Don't post your thingamajig. No, don't do that. It's a family situation in there. We don't want that at all. That's right. Mm.

He's a couple of... He's three... I've got three emails, James. Three mails? Three mails. Well, can I read some too? You can also read some. Okay.

Two are about DC. One's unrelated. All right. This is from Brett. Howdy, boys. Howdy, Brett. Remember when Edgar Wright was going to direct Ant-Man? Yeah. Yeah, vaguely. Like a million fucking years ago. Yes is from Brett. Howdy boys. Howdy Brett. Remember when Edgar Wright was gonna direct Ant-Man? Yeah, like a million fucking years ago.

Yes I do. James Gunn's DC seems like a place where a director could potentially make a film with a singular vision. Well not Ant-Man. No. Are there any directors you'd like to see take on a DC character's film? Racka Racka doing Deadman and or Hellblazer

immediately came to mind for me. Long time listener, keep up the good work. That's a good one. I picked that one. That is a good one, isn't it? Yeah. Who are some hot upcoming directors? Hot and upcoming? What about Michael Shanks? Yeah. Does the 10,000 dollars... I mean, there's already got a director but Clayface. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're going off his previous one. Okay. Yeah. I mean he did Wizards of Oz. Wizard Stuff. Wizard Stuff.

Zatanna. Zatanna. Give us a Zatanna movie. Yeah okay. That's another one I thought of. And you might be like, well doesn't she just do magic by saying words backwards? I guess. What if Christopher Nolan did a Batman trilogy?

Oh yeah. I don't think he'd sully himself with such tomfoolery, such childish things. Don't even ask him about Batman. He will shoot you down. That's exactly right. Literally, with a blunderbuss. And he'd be like, I only talk about being sad about a war. And culture.

And what if Robert Pattinson had my exact hair? And he went through time. Wouldn't that be a delight? And very cultured. Those are good examples. Oh else is kind of cool and upcoming that we could get? Could Edgar Wright come back for something? What if he did... What's he doing at the moment?

Oh, Running Man. Yeah, that's right. What if he did the Atom? What if he came and he did the Atom? That would be good. Just a different Shrinking Guy. That would be interesting. But has every Shrinking Guy trope and set piece been done at this point?

That's a good question. But also, I was gonna say but also the atom can go subatomic, but the Ant-Man can also do that and it resulted in quantum mania. That's a good point. I'm just looking at upcoming directors. Please. I reckon Anna Kendrick. She recently did the thing. So did Zoe Kravitz. Okay. Oh, Anna Kendrick. She recently did a thing. So did Zoe Kravitz. Okay. Oh yeah. Well, Zoe Kravitz did Blink Twice, which was all about crook stuff on an island.

True. So, who's... Dinosaur Island. We make her do the Dinosaur Island movie. We make her do it. I would like to do another Dinosaur Island movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you feel about, not not up and coming but Alex Garland? What would you put him in? On an ex Machina. Oh

Martian man hunter. Yeah, we're right. It's just it's just I guess you'd have to do because it's the mainstream DCU So I'd have to be regular Martian man hunter. Yeah, you make it super weird name You don't have to stick to anything in particular. That is true. Those are all good ones that I thought of. Good ideas that you thought of, well done. This is from Eli Fisher from the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group who says, with Fantastic Four looking as good as it does, what do you think the next MCU thing to have a true visual

identity will be? Pretty doubtful for Avengers flicks, but maybe Spider-Man or X-Man knocks everyone's socks off. Yeah, I think Avengers will look like previous Avengers for the most part. I think they'll maybe the battle world's I mean, especially the one that's set in the void. I'm not expecting much visually from that. I mean, each one of those last Avengers movies just bends in a fight in a gray pit. So maybe I'm hoping it's not just that. I think Yeah, I would love maybe this is just a recency thing, but like I would love for the X-Men

Movies to have like that really exaggerated Marvel rivals look. Oh, okay. They're all kind of young fashion Yeah, cool kind of thing, you know Marvel does a thing. I think they're just gonna do the X-Men 90 100% they're gonna do that Yeah, you know, you know in the Marvel comics they do a thing called the hellfire gala Yeah, here and all the heroes and villains for what reasons I don't really know they all just show up at this gala And they're all in big fashion looks I just do that just do that in the X like a whole movie on yes They do that next minute on his seven. I feel like there was a do what they might have been There was like a ball gala thing going yeah

Yeah, I don't know kill by sent on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if it was that specific. Then everybody got killed by sentinels. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, yeah. I think Spider-Man will look like Spider-Man. I'm not expecting anything visually stunning from him. I think, yeah, there is an opportunity in doing X-Men that you can do something with

that, but I think, again, that we'll just do X-Men 97. Yeah, I think, look, honestly, I think- Which isn't a bad thing. At this point, we're looking at Fantastic Four sequel is going to look. Yeah. I think at this point we're looking at Fantastic Four sequel is gonna look yeah I think if we're gonna have some like some really kind of outstanding Kirby visuals I reckon it's probably an X-Men. That's probably a Fantastic Four than the Fantastic Four sequel Okay, I mean what I have if they make it what if they did I mean, they're not going to yeah What if they did a Fantastic Four?

Eternals But you do the Eternals as they were originally envisioned in the comic books. So cool and weird and fun. Well yeah, but like the, you know, I guess they got the Celestials right. Yeah, exactly. Give us more of that, you know. Maybe Captain America could be a bird. Maybe.

Are there any more cosmic stuff on the agenda? I mean, they've been talking about Nova for years. They have, that's true. But I don't know where that is at. Yeah. I mean Black Panther movies are always visually interesting. Yeah. We didn't even talk about Eyes of Wakanda, which is out now. Oh yeah, I haven't seen it, but apparently it doesn't, I just run a read the synopsis and went, that is interesting. Do you know what is interesting? It's interesting that Ryan Coogler, who directed the Black Panther movies and has a hand in two other Marvel projects, Ironheart and Wise of Wakanda, they've just dumped and has

had a huge success with Sinners recently. They've just been like, no whatever. Yeah, I didn't even know I was out. I saw the trailer and then I looked today or yesterday I'm like, oh shit this is out?. I didn't I didn't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think look I think the best for me personally I think the best visuals in Marvel are The cosmic stuff right? Yeah Guardians of the Galaxy style. Yeah, anything can happen out there the marvels Yeah, I mean kind of if they you know, if anybody saw that and they committed to their what they were doing there. Okay Yeah, cause you're just talking Guardians of the Galaxy specifically though. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's an Avenger space stuff. It's not as much fun though. In Infinity War they fight, fighting that brown, gray pit. Hmm. Yeah, that's true. And you know, a couple of Thor movies looking pretty good. Yeah. You know? Shang-Chi looks not bad until they fight in that gray pit. They do fight in that gray pit. Yeah. That's true. Got another one? I do. Here's an email from Garrett. Yeah. You know, Sean Chi looks not bad until they fight in that gray pit. They do fight in that gray pit. Yeah, that's true. Got another one? I do. Here's an email from Garrett.

Woo! Hi guys, Garrett from Alabama, United States here. We know. Dude, we're citizens of the world. That's right. Yeah. But he probably thinks we're as stupid as our listeners. That's right. And we are. That is true. We are true. That's right.

I wonder if he's from Birmingham. Wow. Way down in Alabama, Bambalam. Do you have any thoughts about the the recently released hottest 100 Australian songs of all time, James? No. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have thought. I do have many thoughts, but I don't think they're I don't think they're appropriate for this. Wow. I mean I only saw the top 10 and went yeah, whatever. No, so I think We'll get to you in a moment, Garrett. We could just hold the live. There's a weird gap in there. So recently Australia. Oh, like the last 20 years?

No, it's like the 90s. Oh, okay. There's a bunch of, so the, bring it up and have a little squeeze. I'm just going to look. For Australian listeners, sorry, for non Australian listeners. Was it 200? It was 200. No, it was 100.

Well, I guess it was 200, but nobody ever looks at the... Yeah. But the Australian quote unquote youth radio broadcaster Triple J, every year they do a thing called the Hottest 100 and it's the hottest, you know, people vote on the best 100 songs that have been released that year. But they recently did top 100 Australian songs of all time. Yeah. And what's interesting I found is there's a bunch of gaps missing. There's a bunch of eras missing.

Why is that? Is it because the listeners have abandoned? I think it's because the people who would have voted for that era, i.e. us, just can't be bothered. Yeah, well that's what I was going to say. I didn't even know this was happening. No. I mean, I'm looking at this year, there's 80s stuff. There's 80s stuff.

There's a huge... Yeah, you're right. Just looking at the top 30, there's a massive 90s. I'm gonna say this, James, I think if Triple M, which is the kind of the very mainstream rock station, if they were like, we'll do a vote on the top 100 Australianist rock and a songs of all time, I think it'd be more diverse than this.

Yeah, whoa. I think this is an odd release. So there's nothing, there's no like... Matt Corby? No there isn't. There might have been Matt Corby. There's nothing from pre like 1980, so there's no saints or the saints aren't there. There's so little 90s stuff on this. There's no Sonny Boyz. So that's like... There's no Gridden Spoon. Well there's no Gridden Spoon, there's no Cruel Sea. There's no Super Jesus. Yep. So here's the thing. There's no Grinspoon, there's no Cruel C, there's no Super Jesus. So here's the thing.

There's no Chris Flack, Franklin. Obviously we're buying. Oh there you go, Cigarettes Will Keep You Bentley, there's 83, there's a 90 song. So here's the thing. Nope, I've lost my train of thought. Here's the thing. This is a video they put in a picture of the thing. Oh that was the thought I had.

This is not a terrible list. It's not, but it's not right I think that I'm obviously I'm biased because I grew up listening to in that era and not listening songs that era But I also think that's the era where triple J Fortune identity. Yes, they cemented themselves as a genuine alternative to all the other mainstream ones like and and in that era There were a bunch of song, you know, something would be played on triple J And then six to twelve months later and it'd be on all the mainstream. Yeah, absolutely. It's weird that none of those are represented in the thing.

Yeah. There you go. But I mean, they're just doing their votes though, right? The reason this got brought up is because they're one of in that list, there's Spider Bait's cover of Blackberry. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. Oh, there we go.

That's right. Garrett from Alabama, United States here. We know. Garrett, you're on the line. Maybe you're in Birmingham, Bam we go. That's right. Garrett from Alabama, United States here. We know. Garrett, you're on the line. Maybe you're in Birmingham, Bamberlamp. I've been listening since middle school and now I'm a working adult. It sucks.

No. This is for both of you. Thank you. Thank you. With the somewhat recent release of Superman and more DCU projects on the horizon, it's clear that the gun verse is going for the classic looking vibe that the DCAU also had.

So the animated ones. Yes. What characters that have been mishandled in the past, CW Arrow, Nolan Bane, et cetera, are you hoping get that Superman treatment and finally get a good show or movie? I know he's everywhere, but I'd love to see a Batman with the gray and black suit and the Bat family.

I do like the gray and black suit and also the Bat family. Yeah. I mean, I think the Arrow was good. It was good, but he's just Batman. Yeah, but I would like a green Arrow. narrow the lefty the we the kind of the weed guy Yeah, the guy who's like he had it all and then he lost it all and he went Oh, yeah, there's more to life than money and kind of what if I could shoot a bunch of people there is exactly

Yeah, yes, I can yeah, and he's got the goatee. Yeah, exactly do the whole thing exactly again I'm not a terrible show or introduction that that character. But again, that show really is... We couldn't use Batman, so we made a Batman out of Green Arrow. We did the best with what we had. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You want to see a different Bane? I'm a different Bane. I'm not a huge Bane fan.

Like, yeah, I mean, if he's in it, I wouldn't be furious. Yeah, yeah. Why not? Adaptations, though. I mean, we're getting it, but I like that we're getting this version of Supergirl, not that again that the version we got was bad, because also we got a new Superman in the last version, the TV one was great. So God, what would I like to see? I'd like to see Shazam, but it's a boy, I guess, just with maybe a better actor that I like.

So just in the mix. You just want no Zachary Levi in the DCU. Yeah. Okay, terrific. Unless you want him. I want to see that. I do want to see the Bat family. What you're like, where do you? He's too silly. Because I feel like the point of Shazam is like, he's trying not to be so obviously a child.

The kid is a kid. Yeah, and the adult is sort of very sincere. I like the first Shazam movie even. I would love to see the full line up of the Bat family in live action. All the Robins, all the side characters. I love a Nightwing. That'd be great. Yeah. Which we got obviously in time. I think Brenton Thwaites as Dick Grayson, very good. Yeah, got to do another one. Dr. Fate again, but obviously bring back Pierce Brosnan. I love John Constantine. That would be great. You didn't love that TV show. I didn't mind it what I saw. I think he's a good John Constantine but maybe an even thinner blonder John Constantine

just punching darts. I don't know whether they do. I mean they can technically because but I want a Constantine who like who knows Batman and whatever. That's what like where they where something happens and Batman has to go. Does he have to be British? Yeah. Oh yeah they're doing the Keanu Reeves version. Whatever. Can we just throw Keanu Reeves in Like where they where something happens and Batman has to go after the British. Yeah Oh, yeah, they're doing the Could we do a Keanu Reeves in there? Yeah, whatever fine. I mean are they doing that? Oh, it's apparently it's happening Right, but I don't know who knows. Maybe it's not maybe they claim that slight when Potentially, maybe they claimed the slight when they separated Warner Brothers and Discovery again Yeah, but you know when Batman comes across a supernatural thing and he's like, I can't speak to fucking John Constantine.

You know, I like that. Or Zatanna. Or Zatanna, whatever. And they date at some point, don't they? Sometimes they do. That's a good question. Here's from Hendrick Johan Hulferin. Oh hello.

He says, do you think the end credits scenes have run their course? Between the infamous The Game is On that goes nowhere and the silly jokes, I feel like they haven't properly set anything up for a long time. Sure. I mean, I think more recently Superman and I think the Superman and the Fantastic Four ones were good, but it is this thing of like, oh, here's the one that hints towards something and here's the joke one. And that has been that for 15 years now.

And so... For people who haven't seen Sinners, it's just five more minutes after the credits. That's great. So do you read the credits? Yeah. Yeah. I like that a lot. Yeah.

I can't say they don't thrill me as much as... Yeah. Yeah. And also if it's a franchise or a movie that I'm not super interested in, I will just leave. Okay. Like I won't stay. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't mind them going away for just leave. I won't stay. Yeah. I wouldn't mind them going away for a bit.

I'd be okay with that. Yeah, I mean, also at this point, very little of them could not just be incorporated into the movie proper. Totally, yeah. I mean, the Superman post credits, they could easily just be in the movie. Even though I liked them, and originally they were,

they missed a terrific one, like that was just in the movie. Even though I like them. And originally they were. They missed a terrific one. That was just in the movie. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But, you know. Yeah. I reckon just a couple of, maybe a couple of years of you put the whatever, you know,

whatever the post-credits sequence, you know, Skeletor going, I'll be back, or whatever. You put it, just put it at the end. Also I guess. Put it before the credits. Yeah. Also, because interestingly, also Superman's post-c credits all the all the hints for future projects in that universe They in the actual movie the post credits don't hint towards anything. Yep. Yeah. Mm-hmm Anyway, we've got another email. I got one more email

I've got two more and this is this is what we'd call a call to action a CTA. That's right All right, it's from Oliver Oliver. Hey James Amasa. Hi, I'm Olly. Hey James and Mesa. Hi. My name's Ollie. Well. Come on man. Come on man. No time for lies now. Yeah. I was an assistant editor on Michael Shanks' upcoming horror film, Together. I've seen that.

Yeah, it's not upcoming now. Is that me, Ollie? I feel like, because I met one of the editors when I was... James, you can read your mind? It was lovely to briefly meet you at the pre-screening you attended last year. I knew it. Just wanted to let you know I put in a weekly planet Easter egg slash reference somewhere in the film. Shanks and I did a small amount of the VFX shots ourselves so I had a chance to sneak something into the background of

one of the shots. Or is it in the foreground? I'll leave it for you to find. I'm stoked for the film to release and I'm always excited when you guys mention it on the podcast. We did not find that at all. Didn't see it. I didn't see it. Also, to be fair, I wasn't because I forgot. I knew it was in there but then I got caught up in the magic of movies. But is it in there? It might have gone in the edit. And that's fair. Also, Michael Shanks, if you're listening, don't fire Ollie for doing that. Yeah, but you can.

For going behind your back. But you can. You can. I'm a wee cussed of you. Anyway, if somebody finds out, that'll be great. Let us know. Let us know. If you could film the whole thing in the theatre. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then scour through it later. Send the whole thing to us. Yeah, yeah. It's from Andrew B. Byro. Hello. Who's

the Jeff Dunham of Australia? Do you have a racist ventriloquist who stalks the continent with racist puppets like in North America? I thought about this. My friend Sarah used to be a ventriloquist, but she was not a racist. No. Yeah. We don't have that. And I'm not going to name it. It's Rodney Rood. Yeah, sure. Or the other guy, Kevin Bloody have that. And I'm not going to name specifically. Yeah, sure. Or the other guy, Kevin Bloody Wilson. Yeah, I'm not going to name anyone specifically, because also I can't ever really remember their names, but there's a bunch of like YouTube comedians who

are, I guess, political commentators who just do racist fucking stand up. Yeah. And there's probably three or four of them. Yeah. And they're all awful. Yeah, if you're Australian, the names all of us have come to mind already. And if like, and if you're like, oh, are they like, are they awful because they're racist? Yes, but they're also awful fucking comedians. Yeah. Like it's, it's twofold. Well, because their audience is exclusively-

God, so that, that's funny. But their audience is exclusively people who watch them on YouTube and they go see them live so they don't actually work in comedy venues. So they don't have any experience just dealing with people who are not already fans of them. And also comedians don't like them, other comedians. That's true, yes. And maybe you'd be like, well, that's a jealousy thing because they built a big audience, but it's also because they suck and they're terrible fucking people. Anyway, I just thought that.

But to answer your question. Jeff Dunham. Jeff Dunham and... We have an Australian Jeff Dunham. He's called Jeffrey Dunham. And Ronnie Root. And Ronnie Root. Still alive?

Don't know. Don't know. I think he is. This is from Nick Weston. He says, a question for Rob Collings who edits this. Uh-oh. He says, when it comes to editing the podcast, do you get to see the films being reviewed first or do you have all the new movies spoiled for you?

Now, Collings, he's not in the podcast. Correct, yes. And I'm happy for him to record his voice and put this in, but maybe he wants to use beeps. So Collings, I know the answer to this, but I'm going to leave it to Collings if he wants to answer. Or he can take this out. It's up to you.

When you say beeps, you just mean he can just swear at you for a long period of time and ask for spoiling all these movies and he'll bleep it out. Collings, one beep for you see the films before editing and two beeps for you just have them spoiled for you every time. There it is. And now we know. Speaking of those YouTube guys that we hate. I went to one of the YouTube channels. Which one, Joey?

Yeah. It's one of those, yeah. And to some degree- He's the fucking worst. Yeah. To some degree, they're all- I think they're all trapped. Yeah, they are. Because this person in the year of our Lord 2025 has a video that's like, get a load of this vegan.

Look at this vegan. What are they? Bloody, our bloody vegans are real. Oh, they're all, they're all in the restaurant. They're always telling you about it. They're always telling you, well, you shouldn't need me because you're, I'm a vegan or whatever. Nobody's like that.

Nobody's doing that. Nobody's doing that. Like we're all in an era where we're all trying to eat less meat anyway, I think. Yeah. Cause too much is bad for you. But it's like the idea of the very easily offended vegan who's always trying to make you vegan and is like, oh, drinking milk, are you? I know several vegans and none of them have ever done that, including you.

And we hate you for it. We love you for it. Thanks, man. Mason's not really a vegan. Just so people know. Don't get upset at him. That's right. I'm a nuggetatarian. I only eat chicken nuggets. That's good. Anyway, that's the show. That's the whole show, folks. Thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Next week, Weapons.

Weapons! Weapons! Dude, I'm so looking forward to it. Zach Krieger's Weapons starring a bunch of actors from Stage and Screen. I feel like that one's going to spook me right out. I think it might spook me out too. Right out of town. Yeah.

Yeah, it's got all that black goo in it. It's going to spook me right out of town. That's exactly right, folks. Yeah. Thank you for listening. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get new listeners. Yep.

Thank you for leaving a five-star review. Whatever app you're using, there's probably an option to review and if you give us five stars, James will find it and he'll read it out on the podcast like he's gonna do right now. This one's from Ely K from the USA who says, James is cool and at least six foot tall. Good stuff, thanks mates. You're welcome and that's true.

Interesting. Did you use that $10,000 you got paid by Michael Shainston? No, I gave it to you. Did you give it to this person? Yeah, I did, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, thank you so much. Yeah, that's the circle of life. Yeah, this is from BBML yeah, yeah. Okay, thank you so much.

Yeah, that's the circle of life. Yeah. This is from BBML101, also from the USA, says, prenatal. Been listening since I was in the womb. Nobody can beat that. That's true. That is true. That is so true.

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Hang on. Why am I going in there? I've got a spreadsheet open. I don't know, man. I don't know what your deal is. Just tell me what I'm doing wrong. I mean, where do I start? Oh, it's a We Got This Covered.

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We found a crazy website. You might be right. Yeah. So people listen on that. A crazy fake website. It's mind-boggling. Yeah. And it also made me think that like there are probably real people trapped on their website. That's the website they go to when they start their day with their morning coffee. Yuck. Anyway, bigsandwich.co. Thank you to the Bruton and the Basilisk and Rackham for all our

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