The Weekly Planet - 59 Best/Worst Comic Book Video Games

Episode Date: November 17, 2014

Comic books are also sometimes video games, and we talk about that.We also talk another potential Wonder Woman director, news on Captain America: Civil War, The Avengers: Infinity War and other stuff.You can also now support the show at patreon.com/mrsundaymovies. Thanks for listening! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com. My name is James, editor at that website with me as always, my co-host Nick Mason. Big week in Comic Book Movie News. I don't know if that's true. Let's find out. Okay, yeah, good. Yeah. Wonder Woman director. Yes. I'm excited for this movie. Okay. Big week in comic book movie news I don't know if that's true Let's find out Okay yeah good Yeah

Wonder Woman director Yes I'm excited for this movie Okay I am also yes They say that The person most likely to do that movie Is Michelle McLaren

And she's worked on like Breaking Bad And as a director And like Game of Thrones and stuff Huh Which I think is a good choice Yes I don't know which episodes in particular, but I don't think I've ever seen a bad episode

of either of those shows. Correct. Or do you not like the fly episode? I know I liked it if I was actually going to say, did she direct the fly episode? But I know she didn't. It was somebody else. It was Vince Gilligan.

Yeah. That was Ryan Johnson. There we go. Yeah, yeah. So that's great. I think that's a good choice if that's true or not true. It's like up in the air

Sure I don't know Have we ever like Is that a reliable source? Yes Oh there was Like I went through a few There was the

There was that Christian Doesn't matter There was a Christian website I saw it There was a bunch of others Yep I trolled Trolled?

Trolled Trolled I trolled a bunch of Hey Christian idiots How do you like this? Alright Christoph Waltz Yes I'm aware of him Is uh He's gonna be a villain in something right? a bunch of... Take Christian, idiots! How do you like this? All right. Christoph Waltz,

they say, is... He's going to be a villain in something, right? Yeah, the new Bond villain. There we go. I know things. You were all over it.

And he's that vague where they're like, we're going to take this back to the roots of Bond. He's going to be a man and he's going to be tough and evil. Remember that press release?

Yeah. It was awful. That's right. I reckon they're going to do Blofeld. Okay. All right. Because I think now's the time we introduce Blofeld. Because he's now...

It's taken him three... They've reset it back to the start. Yeah, exactly. It's taken him three movies, but he's finally at the start of James Bond's career properly. So I think that's what they're going to do. Okay, Blofeld. Yep. All right.

Because Blofeld can look like anyone, really. True. Because he has all the surgery and whatever. All he needs is the shaved head and the bung eye. I feel like as well, it's not really that inspired casting, Christoph Waltz. He's a good actor. He's great. I think he's amazing.

But wouldn't you rather go with somebody lesser known? Oh, that's a good point, actually. Like, you know the guy who was the Mads Mikkelsen in Casino Royale? Mads Mikkelsen. He played Mads Mikkelsen in Casino Royale. I remember Mikkelsen. He played Mads Mikkelsen in Casino Royale. I remember that. Yeah. He was pretty...

Well, he was relatively unknown then. He's way more famous now. Well, I was going to say, it's probably quite easy to... Because Blofeld is sort of a cliche now. Yeah. That character. He's Dr. Evil. He's Dr. Evil.

Yeah, exactly. I would say that you need a good actor so he doesn't come off as a cartoon. Yes. So Christoph Waltz may be a good idea, but at the same time, you might be right in that you get Christoph Waltz in the role and it's like Christoph Waltz

doing a parody of that character. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's what I'm saying, man. All right. You're all over it. So this isn't good or bad news. Who knows?

Look, if it's true, it'll be great. Great. If it's not true... Also great. Also great. Great. If it's not true... Also great. Also great. Great. Have you heard about the... What's going on with the Fantastic Four at the moment?

Which part? Why is that film not out yet? Didn't they finish filming it or something? They finished filming it without most people knowing it had started. Yeah, I remember that. Including us, even though we do a podcast specifically... Oh, sure, yeah. ...on this uh and the

latest well this isn't a room this is true toby kebbell who plays uh is going to be playing dr doom uh-huh oh yes i know where this is yeah he's uh apparently the dr doom he's playing is not called victor von doom his name is victor domashev who's an anti-social programmer who posts under their online handle Doom. Awful. There we go. I'm calling it. It's awful. It's hard to defend this movie in some of the choices that it's made, right?

I think there's a good chance that it still could be a good movie based on the director and the cast. I think the cast is solid. But you're not doing yourself any favours by, like, doing things like this. Don't change Doom. Right, exactly.

Just leave... Like, it works. He's a guy in an armoured suit with a cape and a whatever. Yeah. And he's, like, runs his own, you know, little country and whatever. He's yet to be impressive in any Fantastic Four movie, right?

That's true. Or scary or any... He's just a... You can just get him with teamwork. Yeah, just get him with teamwork, which is what will happen here, I'm assuming. The Fantastic Four in the comics are all about massive cosmic scale events

and stuff like that and time and space and dimensions. Yeah. And he's going to be a programmer. Yes. And this is all like... The focus is more kind of grounded and reality and family.

Don't like it. Look, I think it's probably not going to be a great Fantastic Four movie, but I think there's still a chance it'll be a good movie. And regardless, people will want the rights to go back. I mean, there's still a chance any movie will be a good movie until it comes out. Sure. It's the Schrodinger's cat of movies. Will it be good or not?

We don't know until you pay 20 bucks or whatever. That's exactly it. So, yeah, that's news, isn't it? Yes. All right. Arguably, it's news, yes. We're burning through this. Burning through this.

Do you know Daniel Bral? B-R-U-H-L. No. I don't know how to pronounce that. He's in... Did you see Inglourious Bastards? Yes. He's the sniper who gets the movie made about him.

Oh, yes. He was also in Rush, which I haven't seen, which is apparently amazing, with Chris Hemsworth and their race car drivers. And they're like, who's the better race car driver? Handsome Chris Hemsworth or horribly scarred Daniel Brahal? Is it Chris Hemsworth? I don't know. I haven't seen it.

It probably is, though. I mean... Yeah. So, yeah, but anyway... Unless it's a Cool Runnings kind of situation where they're both approaching the finish line and both their cars flip over and they just get out

and they walk to the finish line together. Hand in hand. Yep. I think that's the end of Talladega Nights you're thinking of.

Right. Whichever. Yeah but he's joined the cast of Captain America Civil War in a villainous role. Hmm. Not the main

villain. Yep. But a villainous role. Okay. Apparently though they've said that there's a possibility that he will be the main villain in Doctor Strange. So, people's thoughts are Baron Zemo.

Okay, yep, I can see that. But why would that be the villain in Doctor Strange? Yeah. Who else would you put in? Civil War. Well, he's got... What's his thing? He's got that headband.

If he's a bit part. Yeah. Hang on. I'm going to look him up. I'm going to see what he looks like. What's his thing? He's got that headband. If he's a bit part. Yeah. Hang on. I'm going to look him up and I'm going to see what he looks like. What's the name again? Baron Zemo? No, the actor's name.

Daniel Brouhal. B-R-U-H-L. B-R-U-H-L. Okay, he looks like a regular man. Good. The third Google image search is Chris Hemsworth, so that's good. Yep, yep.

Look, he could be anybody, right? Well, yeah. Seems like a clean-cut young man. He's got a German kind of accent. I don't know whether he's from Germany, but he's, you know, he's Europeans. Uh-huh. So, you know.

Who could be both a Civil War and a Doctor Strange villain? That's a really good question. Fin Fang Foom. Yes! Dragon. Giant dragon, Fin Fang Foom. He is German. Okay, great. Giant dragon. Fin Fang Foom. He is German. Okay, great.

So there you go. German villain news this week. Yeah, there we go. Is Christoph Waltz Austrian? Hitler. He could be Hitler. Great. Let's just move on, I guess.

Okay, right. But there's more Captain American news. Okay, I'm ready. They say that Badass Digest has mentioned that Sebastian Stan, who plays the Winter Soldier, they say that he's going to have a major role in Civil War and he's a central character in it. He's probably playing the Winter Soldier. Look, it's hard to say. But I think...

It's not hard to say, you're right. It's definitely that. But it's interesting that he's not kind of a smaller part because there's a lot going on in that movie with Iron Man going up against Tony Stark and all the other Marvel heroes and whatever. So I guess he's going to be right-hand man or right-arm metal arm man. Oh, I get it.

I get your little play there. Yeah. So that's good. I'd like to see more of him. You say that Iron Man versus Captain America will be a big part of it. Maybe it won't. Maybe it'll just be like a little cut scene.

Maybe it'll be the post-credit sequence. Like, it'll just be an unrelated... And then at the post-credit sequence, it'll be like just Tony Stark and Captain America at a bar and they're like, I don't agree with your policies. I don't agree with yours. Slap, slap, slap, slap.

Agree to disagree. And then they leave. That'd be really great. But yeah, I mean, they obviously do change these stories quite a bit, but, you know, but, you know, it'd be good. He wasn't, you know, he's not a lot, he's not heaps in Winter Soldier. Yeah, true.

Yeah. But he's, but he's great in it. I get the sense this is going to be a long one. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Good. Yeah.

Last bit of Marvel news. I'm calling it. Last bit of Marvel news for this week. According to Deadline, the Russo, you know the Russo brothers? Yes. They did the Captain America and they're doing Civil War. They're building up their Marvel cred with this all-star outing and apparently they're going to take the reins of the Avengers franchise

from Joss Whedon. So possibly Avengers 3 and 4, that will probably shoot back-to-back. Interesting. Yeah. So Infinity War 1 and 2 yes okay yeah

Russo's Russo's yeah that sounds pretty good I mean if you know if Joss Whedon was stepping out

for whatever reason then that's hang on the Russo brothers are Winter Soldier Winter Soldier and Civil War they'll do Civil War

Civil War as well yeah yeah good good sounds good yeah I mean they've only done one but Joss Whedon's also done one.

But Joss Whedon's probably directed more stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the Russos, if we're talking Winter Soldier, that's more ground level stuff. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there was a lot of big stuff

in that film. Yep. Mostly helicarriers. Yes. But okay. I have faith in them being able to expand that. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. They can do cosmic stuff. Yeah, definitely. Also, James Gunn said, this is just off the top of my head, is yes but okay but i have faith in them being able to expand that yeah yeah absolutely cosmic stuff yeah definitely oh also james gunn said this was just off the top of my head said this week that the guardians 2 won't lead directly into infinity wars it's very much going to be kind of separate okay because i think they they learned from the mistake of iron man 2 where you can't just make a movie which is just a trailer for another movie yes absolutely so i think that's it that's a good idea. I'm sure they're linked, because everything's linked, Mason, in movies and life.

Yeah. Serendipity. Yes, exactly. Serendipity is part of the Marvel Universe. I don't know if you know that film. Last bit of news. I saved the best for last. We'll see about that.

Go ahead. There's a new Wolfman movie in 2017. You didn't save the best for last. Should I have opened with that? Look, well, let's just get through this. Alright. That's all. That's it.

Huh. So... So there's nobody attached to star or director? Nah. Well, the last one was in 2010. Benicio Del Toro and... No, he's not... Anthony Hopkins.

Hopkins coming back? That was... Is it a modern... Because we can't... They can't do old-timey Wolfman. Victorian era, because they just did it. Yeah. So this will be modern era, so it's going to be really bad. Yeah. One of the things. Because they can't do old timey Wolfman. That's done. So this will be modern era. So it's going to be really bad.

Yeah. But then again, American Werewolf in London. Yes. Actually, that's kind of boring. Yep. Correct. But then it's really amazing in the last 10 minutes. Okay.

Sure. Don't you remember? Maybe instead of releasing a new Wolfman. Is it in London or Paris? They can release the last 10 minutes of that film. Yes. Is it London or Paris, that movie? Or am I thinking of a vampire in Brooklyn with Eddie Murphy?

You're thinking of a weird mashup of Vampire in Brooklyn and Dracula 2000. Okay. That's what you're thinking of. But with a werewolf. But with a werewolf. Yeah, exactly. That was an interesting movie, wasn't it? American whatever in London.

Do you mean the original one from the 70s? The one from the 70s the one from the 80s don't you remember he gets bitten in the Scottish Highlands and he goes back to the city and then he kind of spends the whole movie

just sweating yeah there's a lot of pasty nudity in the film and then 10 minutes to go he turns into a wolf and just slaughters the town

and then spoiler alert it ends with the song Blue Moon yeah then they machine gun him oh yeah that's right then it cuts to Blue Moon yeah pretty great pretty a machine got him. Oh, yeah, that's right. Then it cuts to Blue Moon. Yeah.

Pretty great. Pretty great. But wasn't there a recent remake of that? I think there was an American Werewolf in Paris remake. Oh, okay. Like five or six years ago or something. No, I'm not sure. I mean, there's no way to look that up, so don't worry about it.

Only. Only. Yeah. Then we had something at our fingertips. Yeah. Oh, well. That's all the news for this week. We kind of burnt through that.

We breezed through that. We blazed through it, if you know what I mean. Blazed through it. Yeah. Well, look, what we're going to talk about this week, though, Mason. Oh, yes, I'm ready. Well, we did a Let's Play video, didn't we? We did.

They're popular on the internet. They are, apparently. I bet they're a breeze to make and edit as well. Aren't they? They're certainly not. Oh. They're certainly not. They are certainly not. Yesterday we played Justice League Task Force and I put together about a...

It's a bit over 20 minutes of the video of us playing. Cut down from like an hour. It's just the best bits. Just the best bits. The solid gold. Just the bits where the game wasn't freezing. Bits where the controllers were working and the buttons were mapped to actually do things.

I left that bit in. Great. Fantastic. But yeah, we had a lot of fun doing it. Did we? No, we did. No, we... Look, the game's not good, but I think we enjoyed...

I bet there's a lot of footage of us just flipping over one another. Lots of flips. Because that's mostly my move, is just flipping. Flipping over. Yeah, that's it. So the idea is... That's going to go up on my regular YouTube channel in a week or so. But that's up on our Patreon page. Like right now?

Like right now, exactly. If you've already donated, then it's at the link that gets sent out. So basically, if you donate, you get access to a second YouTube channel where it is right now. Love it. You can watch that right now. Patreon.com. Exactly. If you donate any amount of money. And like we said, the amount that if you want to donate, it's... You get access to a second YouTube channel where it is right now. Love it. You can watch that right now. Patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies. Exactly.

If you donate any amount of money. And like we said, the amount that if you want to donate, it's whatever falls out of your pocket and you're comfortable. We say that a lot. We do, yeah. It's whatever you're comfortable with or not at all because this will be, you will be able to see in a week or so, even if you can't afford it or don't want to. So, yeah. And it's great?

Yeah. Question mark. Okay, good. So, look. I actually did have a lot of fun yeah we should get better controllers though all i'm saying nah can we use xbox controllers on there you can yeah i don't have xbox controls you got some xbox controllers i have one for some reason i'm not a very social gamer so i have one actually i've only got one playstation controller so yeah

maybe they'll work together that seems complicated okay well I'll bring over my one Xbox controller we'll see wireless let's edit this out you know what I'll get some I'll get some more I'll get some better USB ones

or something but yeah thank you to those who donated and thank you to those who will donate but this week we thought let's talk about some video games that we played

have played oh yes some of our wish we'd played wish we'd played some of our favourite or least favourite video games that we'd played wish we'd played some of our favourite or least favourite video games

that we've played based on comic books love it um seems as it's not even 15 minutes and we're up to we've burned through

the news maybe there wasn't a lot of news this week yeah it wasn't you know my previous statement that it was a great

week for comic book movie news has been proven false yes maybe it's a great week because there was not a lot of there wasn't any batman versus superman sure we didn't waste that yeah we didn't waste

more of people's time this week yeah correct so yeah but yeah why don't we start do you want to talk a little bit about justice league task force yes okay so it's behind the scenes yeah it's from the it's from the mid 90s it's like a Street Fighter-esque fighting game. It's more Street Fighter than Mortal Kombat, wouldn't you say? Yeah, definitely. It's... I don't remember it even coming out when I was a kid. I remember it coming out.

I remember wanting to... I remember wanting the reviews to be good because I saw the ad, but they were not good. Even then? Even then, yeah. And I didn't end up playing it. Yeah, yeah.

First time. And boy, does it... Maybe didn't end up playing it. So, first time. And boy, does it maybe hold up. It doesn't. Spoiler alert, not a good game. There's like eight or so characters you could choose from. Uh-huh, yeah. You know, your standard kind of... And then there's some weird villain choices, which you probably won't spoil.

No. Well, for starters, there's a very small villain lineup. Yes. You'd think there'd be more. Yes. But there isn't. Well, there is only like eight characters. But I guess it's the mid-90s.

Oh, hey, man. Good games came out in the mid-90s. True. I can't think of any right now. But the old Street Fighter games, like originally there was like eight characters, like the first Street Fighter 2. Right, but all those characters were morally ambiguous.

That's true. You didn't know anything about them but in this game it's just you as a superhero fighting all the other superheroes in the most convoluted scenario correct yeah nonsensical kind of story of all time yes but there is no there was no storylines for anything like then really was there like that was kind of there was but that was kind of thing like then really was there like that was kind of there was but that was kind of for fighting games for a fighting game yeah but even then the fighting game now storylines aren't great they're better like the injustice storyline is good enough that there's a pretty decent comic spun off it but i don't know video game storytelling has got more complicated i still

feel like it's got a long way to go as opposed to just scrolling text and the start of justice league task force which is just a spinning newspaper yep it says but in many ways that's the best narrative device i think they should bring that back sure absolutely well look if you want to check that out yeah it's on the patreon page patreon.com slash mr sunday movies and um go for it but have you got have you got any classic childhood games other than justice league task force that you'd like to get around to playing again? Look, I don't know if it's going to hold up. Sure. The show's called Never Go Back, by the way, the video game series that we're doing, because you shouldn't ever go back to anything.

Films, movies, music, less so. I think music holds up. Like, classic music holds up more. Give me an example. Bob Dylan. No classic music Does it? Give me an example Bob Dylan No no Like give me an example From your adolescence

Blink 182 Yeah No not really I like Blink 182 What about I think Dammit is a classic Like one of the classic pop songs Yeah yeah

But the rest of it Maybe not What about East 17 The British boy band No Metallica Early 90s Metallica Early. Early 90s Metallica. Early to mid 90s Metallica.

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. All right. You've proven me wrong with early to mid 90s Metallica. So what's the game though? What was the game that you said holds up? The first... I don't know if it does hold up.

The first superhero video game I played was Batman the Movie. Oh, yeah. On the Amiga 500. Yeah, yeah. So that was... Was that the one with the wall climb? Or was that the Nintendo version? No so that was that the one with the wall climb was that the nintendo version no that was the nintendo version okay so in the 90s all movie tie-in games were exactly the same yes platform level driving level puzzle level driving level platform level and punch the joker punch the joke regardless of the game regardless of the game even

even if there was no driving in the movie they'd put in a driving level. Yep, yep. Even if everything in the movie was incredibly straightforward puzzle level. Yep. Like a Dick Tracy puzzle or something. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, yeah. So you start in the Axis chemical plant. You're Batman. Yep, good. None of this moral ambiguity. You don't get to play as the Joker or anything.

Right? You really set the scene. I've set the scene. Chemical plant, Batman. Batman. You are Batman. Got it. You can walk along slowly.

You have an unlimited number of batarangs that you can throw. There's no punching. There's no elbows and knees. None of that. Okay. He's a physical weakling. It's a shooter then. Yeah, more or less.

It's a platform shooter. Platform shooter. Like a Contra. Yeah, because you're a weakling like Michael Keaton. Like 80s Michael Keaton would be. Not modern day Michael Keaton. No, he's tough and wiry. It's weirdly tough yeah so

you could throw batarangs you could grapple up you had a grappling hook that you could they could up or at angle okay go up and you could drop down from platforms what year was this like this would have been 89 or 90 something like that yeah okay yeah um and essentially you navigated your way through an incredibly complicated chemical plant. Yep, yep. And then you hit Jack Napy with a batarang. Like, deliberately. And then he falls into a tank. Is that a cutscene or do you do it?

No, you actually do it. So, do they make you do it? Where it just stands there until you throw it? Well, he just shoots at you until you do it. Oh, okay. So, yeah. So, you batarang him and then he falls into a vat of toxic waste. And then he's a joker.

There's some cutscenes. There's a joker. You Batmobile around there's like a 3D racing game through the streets of Gotham yeah yeah which is pretty good

okay then you've got by 3D do you mean pseudo 3D yeah pseudo 3D okay good yeah yeah

fast paced fun great yeah and then there is you know your puzzle game because you've got to determine the joker's poison

blah blah blah whatever blah, whatever. Then you're in the Batwing, you're flying around. Ah, man, this sounds great. Pretty good. Yeah. And then, see, what happens when you're a kid, your mind fills in all the blanks. Yeah. Like, your imagination fills it all in.

Definitely. So, I imagine the animation now, woeful. Yes. But, yeah, so you're in the Batarang, you're going down the... You're in a Batarang.'re going down the you're going down the you're in a Batarang the Batwing I'm sorry and then you're driving you're flying down

the main street you know when the joke is at the parade you're cutting balloons you're cutting balloons you're cutting balloons in 3D this sounds like

one of the most because the games back then usually weren't accurate to the storyline no like I know Star Wars on Super Nintendo

Star Wars there was a platform level and there was a driving level and there was a No. Like, I know Star Wars on Super Nintendo. Star Wars. There was a platform level. And there was a driving level. And there was a puzzle level. But, like, the original Star Wars on Nintendo, there's a bit where you fight Darth Vader and he just transforms into a scorpion. Oh, yeah.

It's like, what? Okay. Yeah. Maybe it's a metaphor? Yeah. But, yeah, so basically, so you cut the balloons, you bear down on the Joker,

then what happens? Then, then you go to the cathedral at the end. Do you get to shoot at him? Wait, listen, listen, listen. Oh no, you don't get to shoot at him. Okay, you just crash. No, you don't see the Joker, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And then... How's the music? I don't know. Like that. You know, they're all the same. Sure. Yeah. And then it's the last level, it's the platform level.

You go up an incredibly complicated cathedral. Yeah. And then you get to the roof and the Joker is escaping on a helicopter. You shoot your grappling hook diagonally at him. You knock him off. He falls hundreds of feet to his death. It's pretty good. Is Vicky Vale there? Vicky Vale, I think, gets like a pixelated static kind of cutscene.

Okay, sure. Where she's like, why did you do that? Why did you kill him? Yes, exactly. Oh boy, I'm looking at some stills now and it is not. Yeah. Well, look, in all honesty. It's pretty good, actually.

That sounds pretty great. You know what they should do more of in video games? Platform level. Driving level. Puzzle level. Driving level. Platform level. Why not just make...

Do you remember they made it from russia with love video game which was the from russia with love movie with sean connery and they made it like five years ago yeah and it's like a third person shooter did it have the voice of sean had the voice of sean connery it was like the last time so what we want to do is we want you want to have a movie you want to wait 30 years then you want to want to hope that the star of the movie hasn't died and then you get him to do the voice that's what i'm saying like why not make batman 89 as a video game now oh that's what i'm saying they did it with the warriors you know they made that warrior rocksteady made that warriors video game yeah but don't because i feel like as well i'd like a modern

kind of star wars game yeah where you actually play star wars yeah not just like you play the hoth base and then you kind of go off and do something else i want to see like progression through like they used to like super star wars on yeah on that why can't they do that why can't i because there's no money in it yeah who's gonna buy a batman 89 video game besides me hundreds of times yeah no you know what though if it's good, people will buy it regardless. How about this? How about this sweet screenshot? That's what it looked like. That's actually not bad. You've got your irritating bad guy

who keeps shooting at you all the time. You remember Bob from the movie? I remember Bob. He's always throwing your hand grenades. There's a constant drip of toxic waste from a lot of... You've got to be careful. Is that in the chemical plant? That's in the chemical plant. That's in the chemical plant. It's in the cathedral.

It's not in the cave. It's not in the Batcave. With the static cut scenes, is it actually Michael Keaton? No. Okay. Not at all. Does it go... It does go...

Yes, exactly. Yeah. That sounds fantastic. It is fantastic. What's that on the Amiga? Amiga 500. I might have trouble kind of getting

the game footage from that. That's right. But no, I'd love to play that. Okay. Not like for any other reason than, like I wouldn't play it in my spare time. You'd think about it though, right? Yeah, sure. Just think about it before you go to bed every night?

Drive me mad until I played it. Yes. You look like you've just taken a trip down memory lane with those Google images. Oh, so many memories. Ah, so good. Edit around this or something. You know what, though? Whatever you want.

Yes? I would probably recommend to you do not play that again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep that in your mind. Keep it as a memory. Yeah, thank you. Okay, I'm done. I'm done reminiscing silently to no one.

Alright, well I've got one for you. Okay, I'm ready. I think we're going to do this one as well. It's called, you'd probably know, it was on the Sega Mega Drive I think and Super Nintendo it was called

Spider-Man and Venom Maximum Carnage. Oh yes. Remember that? Yes. Side-scroller beat-em-up. Did you have this one or play it?

No, but I remember the comic book series. Okay, yeah. It went for a really long time. Was it really 90s? Yeah, how extreme was it? Well, Carnage was in it so it was really 90s.

Carnage is a good guy now or something. No, sure not. No, they're changing it up. Oh.age was in it, so it was really 90s. Carnage is a good guy now or something. No, sure not. No, they're changing it up. Yeah. Everybody eventually becomes an anti-hero. That's how it works. Yeah, I guess so, yeah.

Despite how many people they've murdered. Yeah. Like he was a proper serial killer. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like he was like, you thought Fanny was bad. And his name was Cletus. Yes. So he was a redneck serial killer.

He was a redneck serial killer. Apologies to any listeners called Cletus. Or rednecks or serial killers. Yeah, but it was... I never owned this but I played this a lot at a friend's house. It was just basically

a side-scroller where you pick a Spider-Man or Venom and you just walk through and you can do a little web swing. It's kind of... Have you ever played

Streets of Rage or any... You know, Final Fight or Final Fight? Is that the one? Yeah. That's a side-scroller, yeah. Any of those.

Then you just walk along thugs come out and you punch them as Spider-Man or as Venom. But I remember and I think it was this Spider-Man game because there was like five of them

on the Super Nintendo there was I can't remember the names of them there was a move that blew my mind where if there was a thug on either side

of you you grab one you grab them both by the scruff of the neck and you bash their heads together over your head it's pretty great don't remember much

else about it but I remember loving it at the time and I'd love to do that one again even though it's probably terrible. And you'd love to grab two people just in real life and crack their heads together above you. That's right. Absolutely.

So, yeah. Spider-Man, I think, has had a decent run in video games. Yes. Just as a side note, there were some Spider-Man games on the Game Boy that were super great. Which one in particular? Spider-Man 1. The first one. The first one. Look. They were super great. Which one in particular? Spider-Man 1. The first one. The first one.

Look, it was just... There was platforming. There was a bit where... Drive a spider car. Drive a spider car. Solve a puzzle. Kill the Joker. Kill the Joker.

Exactly. There was... You fight all the classic villains. Yeah. You fight all them. Great. Pretty good. That is pretty good.

Yeah. I'm all for that. I mean, it was in yellow and grey. Have you tried to look at a Game Boy recently? They're very like, you look at it and you're like, oh, it's tough. It's like looking at a game and watch. Oh, yeah, I guess so. Compared to, you know.

Yeah, yeah. You know what? There's some good kind of, if you emulate Game Boy games, they're quite clear. They're just doing black and white and they're quite clear and you know easy to play there's actually the first spider-man on game boy advanced yes is also really good this is from sorry 2002 it's like a there's a platforming level and there's a oh yeah there's a you know that the web swinging is quite good it's quite kind of dynamic and it follows the movie and it's if you've got a game boy advance or you know i

would say check it out man yeah or just um torrent a thousand game boy advance games or whatever you can do you know i got i got a while back like a little it was like 20 bucks or something it's like a little sega genesis mega drive like a little portable oh you want one of those yeah and you can you just just download there's like a torrent for like 900 yeah there were 900 Genesis Mega Drive games crazy a lot of

them must be like the Japanese version of the English version though I don't bet you know there's a lot of okay yeah but I mean the dilemma that isn't it it's a fun

novelty because it's like yeah it's this tiny little is it like a Genesis controller yeah sort of you actually plug that one that you can plug a cartridge into the top no okay no it's like because you can't get that yeah it's this tiny little is it like a Genesis controller? yeah sort of can you actually plug is it that one that you can plug a cartridge into the top? no

okay no it's like because you can't get that it's like a Genesis I remember that it's better than that but the problem is if you download 900 games

every game gets 10 seconds of playtime yeah exactly right I remember this one next next exactly yeah

there was a Sega Mega Drive collection on the PSP. In Australia, we call the Genesis the Mega Drive. Oh, it's called the Genesis. Sorry, yeah, I should close that up. Yeah, and there was one called Comic Zone. I remember Comic Zone. I only played it, you know, a few years ago.

But it's a guy who's a comic book artist, and he gets dragged into his comic book. Oh, yes, sure. And then the way it's played... And then he's like, the rest of it, he's like, oh, I wish I'd made my characters more interesting this is lame he's such an extreme

90s dude if you look up comic zone yeah he's got a ponytail he's got a ponytail I think he's got cargo shorts yeah yeah

I think he's got cargo shorts and a cargo vest and like little little John Lennon glasses yeah yeah something like that yeah

but the way it works is you basically fight your way through comic book panels yeah and it's quite difficult but like you'll punch a bad guy and he'll fly through a comic book panel into Yeah. And it's quite difficult. But like, you'll punch a bad guy and he'll fly through a comic book panel

into another panel. Like, it's pretty inventive for the time. It didn't sell well because I think it was towards the end of the Genesis life. Mega Drive life, as we call it in Australians. But yeah. Did you ever play that one? No.

At the time, yeah. I was thrown off by the ponytail and the little glasses. Yeah. so good. Did you ever play the Spider-Man games on the PlayStation 2? No, but you love them. You would shut up

about them. Spider-Man 1, not as good, still voice of Tobey Maguire. The interesting thing about that game is that once you...

Wait, is he phoning it in? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, great, good. Bruce Campbell does the tutorial, which is great. He's not phoning it in. Or he is,

and I can't tell. He's a pro. He might be phoning it in, but he is good. Bruce Campbell does the tutorial, which is great. He's not phoning it in. Or he is, and I can't tell. He's a pro. He might be phoning it in, but he is good. The web swinging is just, you know, you swing from nowhere. Oh, yeah, of course, yeah. And you can't go below a certain height of the city, or you just drop to your death. Right, right, right.

And it's fine. But when you beat the game, you get to play as Harry Osborn, Green Goblin. Oh, yes. And you can replay the whole mission, and it's set after Spider-Man 1, where you go through, and you're on the glider, and you can play the...

And the story's slightly tweaked. Uh-huh. And so you do the whole thing again as Harry Osborn on the glider. That is fascinating. Yeah, it's... So you can't fall to your death because you're flying all the time.

You can get off the glider whenever you want. Oh, okay. It just disappears and... To your death. Right. Yeah, but I just thought that was really interesting that they got a lot of... You know, they basically... There's two games in that in that i mean they're essentially the same game but with

very different mechanics so that's cool yeah there's a few i think the spider-man games especially are okay with going off script or going like yeah you know you saw you saw green goblin and you saw you know uh dr octopus in these films now here's our interpretation of all the other characters all the other villains exactly here's the shocker and whatever yeah yeah which brings me to spider-man 2 yes which i love oh yeah it's probably one of my favorite video games of all time for the web swinging alone oh yes i don't understand why they haven't been able to replicate it since it's just it's really bizarre it's weird when somebody perfects a mechanic yeah and then you don't just see that forever and it's weird that we'll talk about batman later i sure everybody

everybody loved that mechanic as well and that a follow-up game ultimate spider-man which was based on the comic which is a cel-shaded kind of spider-man game they sort of used it but they dumbed it right down right so it's not as good i think maybe it was maybe it was too complicated but when you got the knack of it it was just oh i see right like so amazing so it was not an idiot proof mechanic no if you didn't if you don't understand sort of some sort of basic physics you couldn't get it yeah probably well see that's that'd be it that's why it hasn't come back yeah because there would have been for every person who's swinging around the city going i love this this is this this feels real and right, man. Yeah.

Right. There's a hundred people who were just stuck at the first screen of the game going, why can't I swing the webs? Right. And so they've had to dumb it down for them. Yeah. Also, that game now kind of looks terrible. Right. Because it's an open world PS2 game and everyone's head looks like a block.

But again, cast, they've got the full cast there, I think. Or it might be just Tobey Maguire, but in it, there's little question marks as well that gives you hints and stuff. And again, that's Bruce Campbell and there's hundreds of them. So you come across... So there's hundreds of Bruce Campbell,

sweet Bruce Campbell dialogues. Yeah, yeah. The combat's not great. The story's Spider-Man 2 with a little bit extra, but there's some really amazing segments in it, especially when they let you go open world. You know, you have to chase somebody down in the city or, you know, like a...

You know, you stop random crimes, like there might be a taxi... I mean, a car out of control, and you've got to catch it and then flip onto the bonnet and then punch it till it stops. Sure. And it's really amazing.

And then sometimes there might be a loose baby carriage and it's flowing, running down the city and it's going to get in the traffic. So you've got to grab it and punch it until it stops. So, yeah, I think that Gabe, the web swinging definitely holds up. Not the whole thing, but that, that web swing mechanic is great. Yeah. Have you got another one that you like? Okay. I'll cast your mind back to 1993. I'm there. Yeah, okay. How about... Because you were talking about side-scrolling beat-em-ups.

Yeah. The Final Fight and stuff like that. Capcom were kind of the king of the side-scrolling beat-em-up. Yes. And in 1993, they produced the Punisher arcade game. I don't know if you... Do you play that at all? I've never played it.

I know it. Okay. Well, it was two players. So, obviously, Punisher, second player is going to be... Purple Punisher. Incorrect. Guess again. Who else would there be? He doesn't have any friends. Correct. He doesn't have any friends so they got Nick Fury for some reason.

Okay. He's the second character. That's fair. That's a good... But when have they ever teamed up? Never. Never exactly. But I guess Nick Fury would reluctantly do it. Nobody else would. Spider-Man wouldn't go along with it. They've done stuff together before but as we've mentioned before everybody in the Marvel universe hates the Punisher. Yeah, I guess so. Like, nobody else would. Like, Spider-Man wouldn't go along with it. Uh-huh. Like, they've done stuff together before, but as we've mentioned before, everybody in the Marvel Universe hates the Punisher.

Yeah, I mean, you can't side-scroll with him down the streets, the gritty streets of New York. No. The gritty streets that you don't normally hang out in because you're web-swinging above him. Yeah. You can't just hang out with him while he riddles people with balls. And you could, because there was a lot of gunplay.

Do you ever play the Alien vs. Predator? I did, that was great. It was sort of a precursor to that, where there was beat-em-ups and whatever, and you could pick up weapons and stuff, but there was a lot of... You had a gun. At almost all times, you had a gun. Yeah. And there was a lot of shooting.

Did everyone else have guns? Everybody had guns, man. Okay, cool. Oh, no, some people just had knives. You don't bring a knife to a gunfight. You certainly don't. Especially when it's the Punisher. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Anyway, it was pretty great. You fought robots. robots you fought thugs you fought the kingpin sweet you fought oh what are those guys robot guys astronauts yeah you fought astronauts yeah oh you fought the reavers which are like these from serenity yes now they were like x-men villains they're all cyborgs i had like One had like upper body but tank treads. You know? It's one of those kind of guys. That's real practical. Yeah.

Yeah. Quite impractical. So there was a Super Nintendo version of that as well, wasn't there? Ah, there may very well have been. Yeah. Probably not as good. There was a PlayStation 2 Punisher game, which is apparently quite good. That was, yeah, that was brutal.

I'd never played it. Uh-huh. That actually had to be, I think that had to be censored in a lot. There are interrogation scenes. Yes. Where like, you'll grab a bad guy and they're littered everywhere and there'll be like a buzzsaw sitting on a bench.

And you'll grab a guy's head and you'll put him near it to get some information out of them. And then you'll give the information and then you just buzz his head in half. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they made those black and white the same way that Kill Bill, you know,

cuts the black and white in that scene. So I think that's how they got around it. I like to play that one, because I've never actually played it. But Punisher on arcade, hey? Yeah. And the Punisher, actually talking about team-ups,

that Punisher game, that was sort of this weird mishmash of, I guess, the Thomas Jane Punisher film. Yes. But also the comic version, because you could team up with, like, Iron Man and stuff like that. Punisher film. Yeah. But also the comic version because you could team up with like Iron Man and stuff like that. Oh, okay.

Yeah. I think Thomas Jane actually voiced that. Do you think he was phoning it in? Yes. I don't think he would have been. I think he would have been flush with it. No, he's pretty good. Yeah.

I'd like to see Thomas Jane do it again. But then again, Ray Stevenson was pretty great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I know you saw Dirty Laundry, the Punisher short. Correct. Yeah, which is really, really good. Yeah. But I don't know. I can't you saw Dirty Laundry, the Punisher short. Correct. Yeah, which is really, really good.

Yeah. But I don't know, I can't imagine they're in a hurry to bring the Punisher back because he's not a likeable character. Correct.

Because everybody else hates him. Disney's not bringing back the Punisher. Exactly. And they never, those movies never do well either.

If you look closely here, here's a little promotional image for the Punisher arcade game. And here's the classic Punisher move that he does in all the comic books, which is grab a guy by the legs

and swing him around. Right? Do the suplex. That is classic Punisher. Do you like the classic Punisher outfit? White boots, black. Yeah, he is in classic Punisher outfit. I like it. I think it's cool. I like it in the comic book context. Yeah. Like, this is a very

cartoony kind of game. It is, yeah. It works. Not real. I like it in the comic book context. Yeah. Like this is a very cartoony kind of game. It is, yeah. It works. Not real. I think we've, in the comic book universe, if he did go back to, you know, leotard, white boots, white gloves, people would be like, what's the deal? Yeah. He's very kind of practical now, isn't he? Yeah, yeah.

Like he's got his skull shirt, but he's covered in like all sorts of other gear and whatnot. Yes. Yeah. Well, I'm all for that mason yeah so that's well there was a lot of those kind of like there was a lot of x-men kind of side scrollery kind of x-men arcade if we're talking all the yeah the marvel arcades just those two i think they were both good yeah the x-men arcade game see these games were not they weren't deeper or anything but they were fun and they were breezy and very colorful X-Men arcade six players okay wow

which was why it was kind of rare I think yeah it's hard to get a six-player cabinet yeah anyway yeah well that's exactly it

Wolverine Cyclops four others Wolverine Wolverine again purple Wolverine yeah that's great I mean those

I mean every game kind of followed a strict formula from like the side squatter ones, you know, your Alien versus Predator. That one you could play as like a Marine and a Predator and a different Marine? And a different Predator, yeah. And, you know, and your X-Men games

and your Ninja Turtles and even like your Simpsons arcade. Sure. They all follow pretty much the same pattern. But I have a lot of fondness for those kind of games. Yeah, definitely, yeah. Yeah, they're good fun. They're good fun. They're good times.

Good memories. This is another episode of Just Us reminiscing about stuff. Just thinking of things. Just thinking of things. Often just in our heads. Yeah. We played this together. I played this to death.

But I know you played it at my place. Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction. Great game. What an amazing game. Yeah, totally. PlayStation 2. Maybe 2005-ish, maybe 2004. It's actually the people who made Prototype.

Yeah, I was going to... I'll mention that in a side. Yeah, yeah. It's clearly... Prototype has carried a lot of mechanics of the Hulk over. But the best thing about that game is, and what you can say about the best superhero games is, you feel like the Hulk.

You run down the street, and you don't get stuck on a tree or a car stuck on a like a like a lamppost or a fire hydrant or whatever you just barrel through everything and if you're running towards a building you just run up it yes and you could leap hundreds and hundreds of meters and basically you just time your jump so you'd land and then jump straight away and you just bounce he was bouncy but not in that rubbery angle no kind of hole no and it was and you'd fight you'd be able to fight like mechs yeah and also like you'd grab a mech and like you have a punch you grab a car and tear it in half yeah and then use each half of the car as a boxing glove yeah exactly so it was all things like that there was a whole lot of mini games where like you could pick up you could pick up things i remember there was a whole lot of mini games where like you could pick up things.

I remember there was a thing that was kind of shaped like a golf club. A mini game where you could pick up things. And then you'd like, and then you'd basically, you know, there'd be like a golf kind of mini game. Or you could use that to just hit people. And you could grab a person and just throw them like 200 meters. Or you could like place them down and like pat them on the head. Like you could choose, you could take a bus, smash it flat and then surf it. You could take a bus.

Yeah. Just take a bus. Take a bus, mate. And then just surf it through the streets. It was just such an amazing game. And even though like I find that with a lot of, like the, we've talked about this before, but the, those Star Wars games, the most recent jedi ones uh the you know with he's got the two gallon murek what's his name oh force unleashed like you've got all these

amazing powers but everybody gets stronger and stronger and you just feel like a you're used to yeah but even though the villains in this kind of get stronger and bigger you still feel like the hulk and you still feel like you can do damage right right exactly like throughout the entire thing like you can jump onto a helicopter like the front of a still feel like you can do damage. Right, right, right. Exactly. Like throughout the entire thing. Like you can jump onto a helicopter, like the front of a helicopter and then just like smash it till it, till it drops out of the sky. Yeah. It's just, it's such a good game.

And though I haven't played it in probably about five years, I feel like that would still kind of hold up for now. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of prototype. Yeah. Because that was, did you play Infamous as well? I did.

Yeah. How, which was better? I finished Infamous, but I think prototype was more fun. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's true. yeah speaking of prototype yeah because that was did you play infamous as well i did yeah how which was better i finished infamous but i think prototype was more fun yeah yeah that's true i didn't finish prototype prototype i felt was more the character was more versatile okay sure yeah like he could do more stuff he could do more stuff yeah and again he had that he had that ultimate destruction mechanic where he had crazy crazy powers they're very similar those games um but i still prefer the hulk to it but even like he's got the same kind of jumping mechanic in yes um yeah in that

as you do the whole he's got he's got run-up walls he's got run-up walls he's got you know you can run you you felt that that was a game where you felt very powerful in kind of a fun way you could run you know 500 feet up a building then leap off and then just sort of glide through the city on like jets of your own blood yeah because he was the character and prototype had been affected by this weird virus which melted all the cells in his body and he was basically you know indestructible and super strong or whatever yeah and you could basically yeah you could float above the city and then you could like see a helicopter and you could lash out a tentacle and reel yourself into the helicopter and then kill the city and then you could like see a helicopter and you could lash out a tentacle and reel yourself into the helicopter and then kill the pilot and then fly the helicopter

and then crash the helicopter and then you know you're fine yeah run up another building leap off turn your hands into giant clubs and then just do it like a like a cannonball on the top of a tank yeah absolutely incredible so good yeah good. There was also a good mechanic in that game where if you wanted to stealth you could. You just go up and you absorb somebody and then you could take on their appearance. And then just walk through. And a lot of the time they'd know you were there but they didn't know which one you were.

And that put a really interesting kind of spin on it. I never played Prototype 2 which is apparently good. It was more of the same. It was also good. I think the world was better because it was set... You're a different guy aren't you you are a different like you're more fun loving no not really okay because the previous guy killed your family so not really uh but the the world was the world had moved on like it was the world had degraded more okay so and the world had a lot more character i think yeah yeah but mechanically it was pretty much exactly the same okay more or less exactly the same powers yeah

yeah all right great but what powers did you do you fight the guy from the first one at the end yes okay do you beat him i can't remember probably yeah presumably pretty good um but on the infamous again these aren't based on comic books in particular. I thought Infamous was... I liked it enough, but not enough to play it again or play any of its sequels. Apparently some of the sequels are great. First Light is one that's come out recently, which is excellent. Second Son.

Anything in the Second Son? No, there's two. Oh, there's two? Okay, sure. First Light is better. Second Son has an incredibly irritating main character. What? Isn't...

Which is the one on PS4? Second Son and First Light. Okay, they're both there. They're both there, I think. Okay, gotcha. What do you mean, like, an irritating protagonist? He's like a super unlikable kind of bro dude. That does sound the worst.

Yeah, it does, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm all for both of those games, Mason. Have you got another one that you love and that you want to marry? Look, if I Well, I'm all for both of those games, Mason. Have you got another one that you love and that you want to marry? Look, if I could, I would. Were you a fan of the Marvel vs. Capcom games? Not really. Oh, well.

Because there was a lot of flashing and then I'd get smashed. Right. That's all I noticed. Often, when I'd go into that arcade, there'd be a guy who's been sitting there all day and you'd line up to fight this guy. Oh, really really and then he'd just wipe the floor with you at about he first he'd give you like 10 seconds to kind of see what you do oh i see and then he'd realize oh this guy can't play and then they just thump you and this dude would have been like you know 27 years old right yeah it's tough to say isn't it yeah i i never really played versus in the arcade

yeah i would not i would not challenge a guy in the arcade. Okay, right. I feel. I would just... I would wait for a quiet period in the arcade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would show up. I'd play the game.

Yeah. Somebody came up to versus me, I'd just probably just die in his sleep. Let him have it. You didn't have that, like... Let him have his fun. You didn't have that, like, competitive kind of... No, but I feel the Marvel versus. Capcom games, you could... Unless the other guy was an expert, you could survive on just button mashing and have a fun time.

Because it was all mayhem all the time. Yeah, absolutely. Did you have a favourite character in that, in particular? Probably Iron Man. Sure. He could fly and stuff, couldn't he? Yeah, totally. Doctor Strange.

There's a lot of great characters, especially in Capcom 3. I've got that, actually, on my Vita. Maybe play it then. Yeah, I know. I've played it a bit. You miserable bastard. Yeah, it's just a whole lot of flashing. And I remember one of those games, you get up to the last boss,

and it's just a guy who's like half a screen. Yeah, uh-huh. He's just swatting at you with his one giant head. Uh-huh. And I know... I find those games... I prefer the Mortal Kombat games because there's less,

I feel like there's less, they're less complicated. Oh, okay. And maybe that's because I'm a simpleton, which I am. Right, sure. But I feel like the moves

are way more complicated. And you've got to build like a meter, but you've got two meters and one builds a certain power and the other one builds something else. But then if you accidentally

hit something, you use half of it and then, so you didn't do your big super move that you should have used it for or whatever. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah you accidentally hit something, you use half of it and then so you didn't do your big super move that you should have used it for or whatever. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah. Well, you're wrong. That's all I'm saying. What about, I've talked about this before, Captain America, the first Avenger.

Oh, yes. Let's throw in Wolverine Origins because I know you love that one as well. Never played it properly. I've played it, but I don't own it. I thought you loved it.

I like, I've played it, but I don't. I've not been paying attention to you in your life at all. I don't own it, but apparently it's, you know, it's but I don't own it. I thought you loved it. I like... I've played it, but I don't... I've not been paying attention to you in your life at all. I don't own it, but apparently it's... You know, it's like a God of War clone. Oh, yeah. No, I like it, but I don't own it.

And it's too late now, so I'm not going back. Right. The good thing about that game was you start off in a singlet or whatever, and as you get damaged, it gets torn off and, you know, your skin gets torn and you get... And then you heal back. And you can see it happening, which is kind of a really cool mechanic. But it's like a God of War kind of clone, but in a good way.

Some games do it better than others. Some do it worse than others. It's strange. It is, isn't it? It's really strange. It's strange. Anyway, talk about the one you wanted. Sure.

Captain America. Captain America, the first Avenger. I've talked about this before. It's got combat like the Arkham games. The platforming feels very kind of like like a quick time event it's like do you ever play

the Prince of Persia games on the Playstation 2 loved them to death okay great but it's like a very simple version of that like you swing in a bar

you press A you go to a different bar you press A again you go to a different like you know and it's the story's set in World War 2

and you kind of you work your way through a whole lot of these villains like and it's, the story's set in World War II and you kind of, you work your way through a whole lot of these villains, like, and it's voice of Chris Evans and whatever. Phoning it in? Doesn't seem to be. Okay. But I know that Chris Evans as well is a big fan of that video game and he said he wanted the combat in Captain America 2, not the video game, the movie, to be like that video game. Interesting.

And I think that's, I think they've actually managed that. A little case of life imitating art. Or something. Or something. Yeah. But that's a pretty solid game. And the shield

gives it an interesting kind of mechanic. You know, you throw it and then it bounces and then you catch it. And sometimes it doesn't come back. Great.

And you just have to play the rest of the game without the shield. I was going to say, favourite character in those Marvel games is Iron, because he's got the proton cannon. He summons it out of nowhere. It's a giant cannon. I just remembered that.

That's actually from the comic books. It's not a proton cannon. It's an acid cannon. It just shoots acid. Yeah. It's a giant acid cannon. Just filled with acid. Just filled with acid, yeah.

Stark Enterprises always had like a space station. Yeah. But from the moment it was built, like terrorists attacked it and then it was filled with viruses and then it was filled with nanotech, whatever. And he just went up there to clear it out one time. He just brought an acid...

He built an acid cannon. So that's what that... That's what the sprite of that is. That's pretty great. That's a fun little fact for you. Did he get his space station back? No, all the sprite of that is. That's pretty great. That's a fun little fact for you. Did he get his space station back? No, all the acid burned through it. I guess.

Yeah. This is actually one that I want to play. Oh, yes. Why don't you play it then? It's a free country. No, I want to play it. I want to make a video of it. Oh, I see.

Let's do that. I've talked about this before. I'm not going to bang on about it. Batman Returns on the Atari Leagues. Oh, yes. I want to sit there. I don't want to beat it like I did when i was a kid it's four levels it's incredibly difficult you just got to keep running like it's a it's a scrolling side you know side

scrolling game no nothing but combat so this is going to be just me sitting on the couch next to you shouting abuse while you're trying to finish this. Yes, exactly. Great. Okay. I'm on board. I'm happy to share. I'm not that kid who you go to his house and then he just makes you watch him play video games for four hours. Yep. But yeah, it's something that I really want to do again. So much so that I want to make sure that people know that I can do it.

I need that validation. Absolutely. Yeah. So yeah, it was a pretty cool game for the time but yeah you can't stop you don't stop and fight everybody because you'll die right you just got to keep running so yeah and you fight the penguin and he's in a big duck oh yeah okay catwoman and and look i don't want to spoil the ending but it's pretty amazing there's a big duck there's a big duck no there's a um you fight you see max shrek thererek. There's a digitized Christopher Walken.

Do you think that's the first and last time he's appeared in a video game? That's a very good question. Was he a villain in a James Bond game? He was a villain in a James Bond movie, but I don't think he was in the game. You know what? Zoran. Zoran, yeah. The game Everything or Nothing, which is the Pierce Brosnan James Bond game,

which is actually the one before From Ocean with Love, which we talked about. The villain in that is Willem Dafoe. Yes. Which is the Pierce Brosnan, James Bond game, which is actually the one before From Ocean with Love, which we talked about. The villain in that is Willem Dafoe. Yep. And he is like the protege of Zoran. Interesting. And there might be a photo of Christopher Walken in that game. Solved.

Mystery solved. Do you remember Marvel Ultimate Alliance? Oh, yeah. Let's not talk about that. Okay. It's the worst. Yep. We hated it. Yep. It was like we hated it yep it was like going to work

it was like going to work we talked about it before it was it was we played it during that heat wave uh-huh it was like a justice league version of kind of this and marvel version and we end up choosing the oh yeah i remember marvel version and then basically what would happen we're both on holidays and it was like this week where every day was like 45 degrees Celsius. So I don't know what that is, Fahrenheit. Super hot. 200 degrees. Yeah, sure. And then Mason would walk over during the day in the heat.

And he'd arrive at like 9.30. And we'd sit down. And we'd slug through this game. And there were multiple times when we were tricked to thinking it was the ending. Yep. And then it just would go for another like 10 hours. But the roster's great. Yep. And then it just would go for another like 10 hours. But the. The.

The roster's great. Yep. Of characters. The. The locations were good. Yes. I remember thinking. Yeah. Like the ideas behind it were good.

Yeah. At one point you fight Galactus. Yeah. And that's a good level. Yeah. That was a good level. Yeah. You go to Atlantis.

You do all kinds of stuff. You go to Asgard. All kinds of. Yeah. But it just mechanically. It was just so bad. So just boring. Boring.

Just boring. And it reached a point, like, it's one of those games where you could develop your characters and you gain, like, more and more powers and skills or whatever.

But it was so unbalanced to, like, I reckon by about a third of the way through the game, if you've consistently kept one character, every time you just enter a room, you just enter a

room you just mash all the buttons and then again iron man or whatever would just shoot out rays and lasers and missiles or whatever yeah clear the screen but i don't think it would happen instantaneously i just reckon you just keep pressing yeah yeah so you just have to keep mashing in the same room until because i remember you did iron iron man i picked johnny storm because he could just stand at a distance with flames uh-huh and that and then we just kind of did that for hours and then at the kind of did that for hours. And then at the end of each day, Mason would clock off and he'd walk home. In the heat.

It was still just, yeah, just towel off. And then we'd go see them more, I guess. It was like going to work. It really was. I don't know why we finished that. Maybe we should play it again. No. Really?

Maybe it's not. See, that's the thing. Like a lot of these games, there's the glow of kind of, like there's that glow of nostalgia and you go for your light and you're like, oh, I remember we played that. It was so good or whatever. And you go back and your expectations have ruined it. And it's just an average thing. Maybe this game is so, we remember it being so bad.

We'll get to it. We'll play it. We'll be like, this is average. This is nicely average. Best case scenario. But I think the reason we hated it so much is because we stuck with it. I think we should have, like now I would not put up with that. Yeah, true.

I'm just like, I don't have enough time for this. Not enough hours in the day. Yeah. Speaking of hours in the day, though... I'm ready. Do you remember when... Do you remember Batman Returns and the Atari Lynx? No, sorry.

Oh, God. Do you remember I bought Mortal Kombat vs. DC when that came out? And I remember when that was announced, I thought it was a joke. I'm like, is this a trick? Yeah, because it was... The trailer was... You said Batman fighting Sub-Zero and falling down a cliff. Yeah.

And I was just like, what is happening? But that was really exciting. I was like, what a great mix. And they toned down a lot of the Mortal Kombat-ness of it, which is okay. The heroes only had brutalities. They had brutalities, yeah. Which is still... I don't want a fatality or a brutality

foisted upon me in real life. Yeah, sure. So, you know. But I remember I called you and I was like, hey, I'm getting Mortal Kombat. This is back in the day when people would call each other. Yes, that's right. And I was off work or maybe I was studying or whatever

and I think you were working and I got called in sick for work and you're like nah can't i go i gotta go to work and i'm like i'm gonna buy a model comet versus dc and i remember you i remember you wrote me a text like that said maybe i was texting you you said what are you the devil so you ended up taking the day off you're called in sick you don't work there anymore it's fine and then we just play that and it was awesome it's a solid game yeah it is

see that's the kind of fighting game I like because I understand it right it's simple enough which is why I also like Injustice I haven't beat Injustice

I own it but I haven't got around to beating it yet I've never played it I in playing Justice League Task Force yes

I'm just going to go to like our local video game store or whatever and just buy a cheap copy of Injustice yeah you should like now

like today just to just A to get the taste of Justice League Task Force out of my mouth and B because I'm like there's got to be a better way

you know I want to see what a good DC fighting game is like yeah it's it plays like a Mortal Kombat game well it's it's pretty similar it's a Netherrealm game

so yeah it's pretty it's pretty sick as I it's a nether realm game so yeah yeah it's it's pretty it's pretty sick as I've seen a lot of videos of people doing all the moves yeah yeah

sure so it looks pretty good and I think now you can get like the there's like an ultimate edition there is yeah like you know you can be Superman but you can

also be Red Sun Superman and you can be yeah Bizarro Superman you can be and they put in like Lobo and yeah a bunch of other characters. I think there's a complete Vita version, which I might get.

I'll be more inclined to... Actually, I'll be less inclined to play it for you on the Vita. I don't know. Maybe I'll just play it in the car on the way to work. Yeah, great. But yeah, I want to go back and beat that. We got any more? Well, there's so many more. There is.

We might have to come back to this at another point. I got a couple more. Have you got any others? Just the Arkham games. Classics. So is. We might have to come back to this at another point. I've got a couple more. Have you got any others? Just the Arkham games. Classics. So good. Well, you did an episode on those. We did, yeah.

I think it's like episode... Actually, I don't know what episode. It's an earlier one. It sure is. It's like eight or... Don't go back. No. Don't go back and listen.

Much like you shouldn't go back and play old video games, you shouldn't go back and listen to old podcasts about video games. Definitely. Don't do it. Yeah, yeah. Did you ever play Marvel Nemesis Rise of the Imperfects imperfects no i remember it was it wasn't a good like it was a 3d kind of platforming sort of game where you run through and you pick you can pick from a variety of marvel characters like a pretty big roster and you beat up a whole bunch of guys and whatever and it wasn't a great

that part of it wasn't good and i never really played a lot of it but i went to a friend's house and he was playing it and we played that game but you can do it in like an arena so you just be on a rooftop you pick a character each and you just pit them against each other so you're in this kind of 3d you know you're in like a 3d kind of box and you can do and you just go at each other yep so you know magneto will fight whoever like wol Wolverine or probably not that wouldn't go well Iron Man wouldn't go well no but like it was

like in the little touches like if you were a bigger character like the thing you could pick up like a big heavy fridge or whatever and throw it

but if you were Magneto you'd see that he wouldn't actually touch it when he picked it up he'd just he'd hold his hand over his head and there'd be a gap between yeah that's fine

so I remember that part of that game being fun, but by all accounts, apparently that's not a great game. Actually, now that you mentioned it, there was another one that we hopefully will do a video on, which is Captain America and the Avengers. Yes. The arcade version.

I want to play the arcade version. I'm not playing the Super Nintendo version because it was rubbish. I have no interest in that. I don't know how I'm going to even get that working. We'll make it happen. I'll make it happen. Can you look into that legitimately? Yes. Because I would love interest in that. I don't know how I'm going to even get that working. We'll make it happen. I'll make it happen. Can you look into that legitimately? Yes.

Because I would love to do that. Because that was, again, side-scroller. We were talking about the Marvel side-scrollers. Classic one. Captain America, Iron Man, Vision, Hawkeye. Yep. You're walking along the streets. You're smashing people.

Because in the Super Nintendo version, you only pick the three characters. It's Iron Man, Captain America, Hawkeye, and they play identical. Yep. They've all got a projectile, but it's exactly the same. Is it the same in the arcade one? More or less, but I mean, you know. There's a little bit more variety. Yeah, totally.

Yeah. I'm absolutely up for that. But you find a lot of classic villains. Yeah. You can pick up a vending machine and hit somebody with it. You know, it's all the greats. Does it play like those Alien Predator

whatever is it all like is it like that it's a lot simpler but it is it's before that isn't it it's much before that it's like 91 or something like that

yeah something like that cool as I'd love to play that villain's the red skull which is isn't that quaint that he's the red skull

just the red skull oh I'll hate there's a lot of other supporting villains there's a lot of other supporting villains. There's a Tornado Man or whatever, isn't there? The Whirlwind's in it, sure. Yeah. Name a villain, I'll tell you if he's in it.

Loki. Can't remember. The Joker. No. Fight him at the end? Oh, yeah, you can throw him in a vat of acid, yeah. After the driving level. Yeah, you throw him off a cathedral in a vat of acid.

Okay, so yeah, it's a pretty big roster there. All right, we'll play the Super Nintendo version of that. No. I can get that working. I don't want that version. Don't toy with me. If I can't, if we can't get the arcade version working. Yes.

Because it's not about getting it working. It's about being able to record it. Oh, I see. That's the tricky part. Uh-huh. Will you play the Super Nintendo one? Fine. Yes.

God. All right. There's two more I want to talk about just quickly. They're both terrible Superman games. Okay. Superman 64 and Superman Returns. Oh, yes. They're both terrible Superman games. Superman 64 and Superman Returns. Oh, yes. They're both terrible in their own ways. I'd like to just revisit Superman 64 just to see what's the deal there.

It's a terrible game. Great. It's a really terrible game. And Superman 64, good flying mechanic, terrible game. You fight a tornado at the end. Not a joke. Hang on, which one? Superman Returns.

Okay, right, yeah. He doesn't even fight a tornado at the end of the movie. He fights a big rock. Why couldn't you do that? Why couldn't it be a quick time event where you keep mashing buttons until you've lifted the big rock into space? That's a very good question. Yeah.

I wish I had all the answers. What else do you fight in Superman Returns? I think you fight Metallo. Okay. Sort of. Great. I think you fight Metallo sort of Great I think you fight like dragons

from another dimension and some of them are resistant to freeze breath so you have to use your heat vision Great I think you fight Bizarro

No I think you can play as Bizarro Sounds kind of fun It's not good but if you play as Bizarro you get like no you can smash as much of the city

as you want because you die when the city gets smashed that's your life bar of the city Because Superman can't die which is quite clever still not good no but bizarre you have to do damage to the city right and then you get the most points you know it's a little kind of mini fire department put out all the fires you die yes that works but it's the city's so kind of solid and non-destructible that there's not a lot of damage you could do right okay and because the flying mechanic the flying mechanic works great when you're just flying but when you're trying to land and or go towards something slowly and pick it up it's very awkward okay and i think

that's why you can't make a good superman game because getting that flying to landing to yeah we'll see when the batman versus superman tiein game comes out. Get ready for mediocrity. I don't think they're going to do it. There'll definitely be an Infinity Blade-style iPad version. Definitely. A premium one. Yeah, but that's about the extent of it. Gross.

Gross indeed. Any others for you? I haven't played this yet, but Saints Row 4 is apparently. Oh, okay. Is that the one that's set in a video game or something? Yeah, it's set in a virtual world. Yeah. Because those games are...

Nonsense. They went from like a GTA clone to just insanity very quickly. Yeah. Like in the third one, you become the President of the United States, and you have to leap out of Air Force One, like in the first scene, and like fight people while you're like tumbling through the air to your death. Like it's that kind of game. But in the fourth one, aliens arrive,

and you get trapped in a virtual world, and then you have superpowers. I've never played it, but I might get it maybe next week or something like that. That sounds amazing. Yeah, totally. PlayStation 3s or Xboxes? Yeah, one of those.

All of those. Yeah, it's on the previous generation. Great. All right. I think that's about it. Oh, I want to play Death Return of Superman as well. Well, you can't. Okay, thanks. Wait, I want to play Death Return of Superman as well. Well, you can't.

Okay, thanks. Wait, is that... Would that be... Super Nintendo. Great. Okay, we can play that. Definitely. It's only one player, though. You can play as all the different

supermen from that comic, but they all play exactly the same. Great. I'm looking forward to it. All right. So, yeah, listeners, if you guys have any games you want us to play for that series

especially stuff we haven't mentioned here or we've never even heard of yeah I'd like to hear about them because I want to play them

especially if it's on a Nintendo Super Nintendo emulator because I can do that yeah absolutely how about Aquaman Battle for Atlantis that one I've been

looking at that I want to do yeah it looks bad it looks the worst and if you look at the Wikipedia page it says notable for oh hang on

where is it the game is notable for its Hang on, where is it? The game is notable for its poor reception of players and critics. That's what you want to be known for, isn't it? Thanks, Lucky Chicken Studios, game developer. What else have they done? Can you click on that and let me know? I'll click on it.

Looks like a lot of spin-offs. Hot Wheels Stunt Car Racer. That's a good one. Tonka Rescue Patrol. That's another good one. Casper Spirit Dimensions. Where Casper goes to hell. Oh, that is a good one also. Anyway, that looks really bad, so we should

probably play that as well. Alright. Done. Easy done. We've got a lot more games to get through in another week, maybe. Boy, do we. Yeah. This video game series is going to be a nightmare. No, it's going to be the best we're going to have a good old time like I said they're going to go on the regular

YouTube channel but you can get them early if we it's not going to be that regular we probably do one every couple months maybe it just depends so yeah or we take a day off and we do a whole bunch at once and then you edit them for hours and hours

it took so long I understand it's harder than I thought I thought it would be I was like I'll breeze through this but it's hard you know it's hard

taking a whole lot like an hour's footage and then cutting it right down and making it coherent sure kind of thing easy fix

make them incoherent didn't think of that did you I didn't I didn't you're right well you know what it's time for make it coherent. Sure. That kind of thing. Easy fix, make them incoherent. Didn't think of that, did you? I didn't, I didn't. You're right. We know what it's time for. Oh, yes. What are we reading?

Oh, what are we going to read? Yes. Yep, uh-huh. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? That's the thing, right? Yeah, that's the thing. Okay. What are you reading today? That's the theme, right? Yeah, that's the theme. Okay. What are you reading this week?

Well, I read part two of Batman Endgame. I mentioned this last week. Uh-huh. Where it's Batman against the Justice League in part one, and then Superman in part two. Uh-huh. I found the Superman fight. It was really kind of awesome and intense. Yep.

And then it kind of ends abruptly, and it it kind of ends abruptly and it's kind of anticlimactic but that probably isn't even the best part of that comic because there's a reveal at the end which is quite

exciting so if you I'd say if you haven't been reading any of the new Batman you could start with Batman Endgame

part 1 and part 2 and it's pretty exciting I'm not going to spoil it but it's pretty good you've kind of spoiled it by saying

there's something spoilery at the end though okay there's nothing notable at the end it just never ends just fades off into nothing it's the marvel ultimate alliance of games you think it's the comics you think it's the end but great that sounds really good i'm going to track that down i am going to catch up on game of thrones no wrong why would i i'm going to catch up on Game of Thrones? No. Wrong. Why would I? I'm going to catch up on Arrow, Gotham, The Flash,

and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I've done that. I did it all. How'd that go? It was good. Yeah. We're actually, you recommended this.

The mid-season break is in a couple weeks. So we'll do an episode on that. So we'll do, well I'll talk about Walking Dead because you don't watch it. Yep, correct.

We'll do Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. We'll do Arrow. We'll do Flash. Constantine I haven't even looked at. I was just going to ask about Constantine. I haven't watch it. Yep, correct. We'll do Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. We'll do Arrow. We'll do Flash. Constantine, I haven't even looked at. I was just going to ask about Constantine. I haven't looked at it at all. Apparently, it's quite good or quite not good, depending on who you ask. Boons.

Baked Boons said it's not great. He said it's like one of the Supernatural brothers. Oh, okay, right. But I've also... So he's got no one to banter with. Yeah. But I've heard it's... And he doesn't have a car, so he has to take the bus everywhere.

That's it. But I've heard it's okay. I watched the pilot and I thought it was okay. Didn't they recast people after the pilot or something? They did he has to take the bus everywhere. That's it. But I've heard it's okay. I watched the pilot, and I thought it was okay. Didn't they recast people after the pilot? They did, I think, the main guy. No, they didn't really. The girl. Okay, right.

Yeah, they got rid of her, and I think they brought in an actual comic book character. They're finally twinned. Like an actual animated character? Yes. Was it MC Scat Cat? It was. From the Opposites Attract video? Look that up, everyone.

You're all too young. But, um... What was I going to say? I can't remember. Constantine. Yeah, it's so... I can't believe they're finally twigged. They're like, oh, people actually want to see comic book characters.

We don't just have to make up villains. Yeah, we don't have to make up a weird stopgap character. Yeah. Just give us... Like, you know, when they put Captain Cold in the Flash episode. That was really great. Wentworth Miller did a really good job with that. He's like one of the Supernatural brothers.

He is, isn't he? Yeah. I watch Supernatural. I keep up to a Supernatural. I like it a lot. Great. Probably more than I should. Still going, isn't it?

Still going, yeah. It ebbs and flows with quality of episodes. It gets very meta at times, which can be good or kind of jarring and painful. Yes. In general, the two guys that carry that show, I find them very endearing. Are they phoning it in? I don't think so. No, I don't feel that way.

Is there a Supernatural video game? No, there's an animated series. All right, okay. It's not really what we're talking about today. I don't know why I brought it up, to be honest. Yeah. All right, so we're all but we're both reading things aren't we we're reading and watching things yeah we've done it

again there was something we've barely scraped through on this premise of this segment we have all right got some letters now oh yes uh let's get into it hey guys thought you'd like this story hey this is from cj sharp the official mrs doubtfire the podcast love it he's written before my friend dragged me to see an early screening of cloverfield this is just recently not really okay when it came out and uh instead of me celebrating my 21st birthday it's rough i went not looking forward to it at all when we got out of that terrible movie well he doesn't like it he's on my page correct you love it though i think it's fine okay i've enjoyed it when i saw it okay when i came out of it um i saw a lot of people waiting to see it after us i then saw a moment

to upset the masses waiting in line oh here we go they're calling spoiler alert as well we're calling the monster mystery by leaving the theater shouting it's a turtle a giant turtle people were pissed there isn't enough room in this email to list the obscenities I heard that night. But who cares? So, yeah. Also, he said, after seeing him play an insane character in 12 Years a Slave, thoughts on Michael Fassbender playing the Joker? I'm on board with that.

Me too. Has that been floated as an idea before? I don't think so, no. Never? Okay, yeah. CJ Sharp is a pioneer of both spoiling movies and suggesting... Casting for movies. Yes. Yeah, great.

Cool. Have you ever spoiled a movie for somebody on purpose? No. Me neither. I've done it on this show, I'm sure, multiple times. Oh, we've definitely done it here, yeah. Because we've forgotten to say spoiler alert. Yeah, yeah, sure.

I don't know, what's the decorum now for spoilers? I think it's like two weeks. Yeah, because some people will be like, oh, you know, Bruce Willis was dead the whole time. And then somebody will be like, oh, I haven't seen it. It's been a decade, right? It's 15 years. It was 1999 that movie came out or something.

So yeah, you're saying it's two weeks. I think it's two weeks, yeah. Really? Yep. Two weeks, close your eyes, shut your ears. Okay. Because if I haven't seen something and somebody's talking about it, I'll just leave.

I'll be like, oh, sorry, and I'll bugger off. Yeah, okay. But I find as well... I mean in casual conversation, though. Like, if we're talking about movies... If we're in a group and we're talking about movies that we've seen... Yeah. You're saying you would just casually spoil a movie that's been out for two weeks?

No, I wouldn't. No, but I think you can't complain if it's after two weeks. That's what I think. I don't think you should go out of your way to spoil things for people. Right. But I think if it's been two weeks, then that's fine. Okay. Yeah.

Interesting. And I'm not saying that we're going to spoil a bunch of stuff here because we try not, even though, like I said, we do. Yeah. I try not to generally. But we don't really get a lot of complaints about that. What do we get complaints about? Just general personas.

Oh, yeah. That we're irritating. Yeah. And we don't know what we get complaints about just general personas oh yeah that we're irritating yeah and we don't know what we're talking about yeah i'll cop to that sure that hulk uh versus superman video i don't know if you saw it i put it up where you explain why the hulk is stronger there's not a stronger superman oh yes you should read the comments on that maybe i won't the thing is as well versus scenario that, whatever you think, it's fine. Yeah. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

It's my opinion. Yeah, that's right. It's correct, obviously. Yes. Ha ha. This is from Leonardo from Venezuela. I have a question. When I was younger,

I didn't read a lot of DC or Marvel comic books. You're going to say something? You look like you're going to say something. No, we're done. Okay. I grew up watching those cartoons, specifically the Justice League cartoon from 2001. Because of this, I used to think Jon Stewart was the only Green Lantern.

Actually, my first reaction when I found out Ryan Reynolds would be Green Lantern was WTF, how do they whitewash Green Lantern? I actually didn't watch that movie because of this, and since everybody refuses to talk about it, I think I made the right call. I discovered Hal Jordan, who Hal Jordan was in... Spoiler alert, he fights a giant yellow fog. Yes.

That would make a great video game. I discovered who Hal Jordan was in 2012 and thought he was a prick. It was not my intention to offend anyone, but I just don't like him. Now, you've said that before about Hal Jordan. Not that he's kind of boring. Is that right? Is that you who said that? I think so.

Or possibly I have. Yeah, maybe it wasn't you. Maybe it was somebody else. He has been boring in the past. I mean it's all it's all down to the writing he's not inherently boring because he's not real but people have i'm sure written him as incredibly boring and white bread or you know what have you yeah yeah the point is i'd much rather see john stewart uh than how jordan in the justice league movie and the green lantern reboot i think it would give people a fresh start after the after that other movie.

Would you like to see Jon Stewart or would you like to see someone else? And do you think it could happen? Keep in mind it probably won't happen. Thanks for the show. Keep up the good work. P.S. Hal Jordan is a prick. Who would you rather see?

Hal Jordan or Jon Stewart? Good question. Have they done any casting on it at all? No. I think you've got to look at it as well the cast that they've already got because they've got cyborg do you think they then won't use john stewart because they're both they're both black and i get i get the feeling as i know you don't see carla i'm sorry exactly thank you but i feel like as well

yeah i think i'd rather see um john stewart. Just to separate that clearly from that Hal Jordan movie. I reckon if we get a Hal Jordan, I want it to be old Hal Jordan. Like, I want the white at the temples. Okay, sure. Yeah. I don't want Ryan Reynolds... Because we've seen Ryan Reynolds' cocky hot shot, Hal Jordan. I want to see, like, old hot shot.

Okay, sure. You know, kind of like he was a hot shot in his younger days. Yeah. And now he's seen some stuff. Yep, yep. And now he's kind of... So he's still a little bit of a hot shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But he's a little bit grizzled. Now he's also an old shot. You know? Yeah. You want to see Harrison Ford turn up in a CGI Green Lantern costume? Yep, definitely. Yep. Okay, sure. I think, like you said, though, it depends how they write the character. Yep, definitely. Okay, sure.

I think, like you said, though, it depends how they write the character. It would be interesting regardless. But I don't know. I'm definitely... I think I prefer Jon Stewart, but whatever. Good.

Whatever. You? We've just had that conversation literally a second ago. All right, this is from Tom, the official Jake Chisel. Oh, yes. Hey, guys.

Firstly, feel free to use this on the podcast if you want or not. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I wasn't sure what was the best way to reach you, so I'm giving a try on the old emails. I just want to say great podcast. I just want to say great podcast. I have a question for you guys.

How do you feel about the recent... Oh, you don't know this. Uh-oh. Spoiler alert. The recent return... Has it been two weeks? No. Oh.

It's not a massive spoiler. All right, tell me anyway. The recent return of Jake Chisel on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. after being Jake Fuzzy was. Oh, he's been re-Chiseled. Yeah. Are you for it or against it with every fibre of your being? Thanks a lot.

Tom, P.S., I'm from New York and your New York accents are spot on. Thank you. Finally. Finally. Somebody, yeah, good. So you haven't seen this. So for those who have not listened to this podcast before

and why are you starting here who knows um Wade Agent Wade Ward Ward there we go

we call him Jake Chiseled it's really good at the moment is it okay yeah alright yeah look I've liked the couple of episodes I've gone back with

so yeah we call him Jake Chiseled because he was so chiseled that he grew a beard now he's Jake Fuzzy Wise yeah now he's been chiseled again yeah he's re-chis beard. Now he's Jake Fuzzy Wise. Yeah. Now he's been chiseled again. Yeah.

He's re-chiseled. Okay. Is he back on the team? I can't. I don't want to spoil it. Yeah, don't spoil it. Okay, right, right. But two weeks, I'll spoil the hell out of it.

Okay. But whatever happens, he's now chiseled again. Oh, I see. Interesting. He's still got it. Oh, yeah. If you're worried that jawline was slipping. Yeah.

Worry not. Okay, good. I'm not worried. So you're cool with it? Are you cool with it? Yeah, I am. I was happy to say it. Okay, good. Yeah. I prefer the name Jake Chisel to Jake Fuzzy Wise, to be honest. Okay, good. I'm not worried. So you're cool with it? Are you cool with it? Yeah, I am. I was happy to say it. Okay, good.

Yeah, yeah. I prefer the name Jake Chiseled to Jake Fuzzy once, to be honest. Correct, yes. So, yeah. Love it. Thank you, Tom. I'll let you know next week. Sure.

Or the week after. Next week's Hunger Games. Oh, okay. Well, all right. Do you reckon anyone will listen to that? Yeah. Do we get a lot of Hunger Games fans listening to this show? Do we like the Hunger Games?

I kind of like the Hunger Games. Yeah, we like the last. We did one on last year. We did a podcast. We've been on this like over a year now. Philip Seymour Hoffman resting pace. Yeah, that sucks. I'm looking forward to him, Philip Seymour Hoffmering.

Absolutely. Hoffmering. Hoffmering. Hoffmering. We've been doing this podcast so long. I think this is the first time that we've reviewed or talked about the second of a movie in a series. Or it will be next week.

There you go. We're vets.'re vets we're grizzled hot shops hal jordan style all right this is from uh thomas winsky i'm in the process of writing my first novel it features a character who acquires the ability to mentally control the speed of time which has always been my dream pal that would be cool however he inquired it illegitimately from an accident line of heirs who have protected a village with this power all right spoiler alerts details not necessary here i probably should have read that without but basically he intends to have two characters named meso and james aka mr sunday and he wants to leave it to us at this stage to decide if they

have they will support my lead character or they'll thwart his good intentions oh are there any specific traits events events, catchphrases you would like to have? I don't want to ruin your story. Yeah, I feel... Yeah, don't let us interact with... Don't let us... I like to observe.

I don't want to spoil anybody's narrative, you know. You don't want this to become too big a podcast where you're directly influencing Ryan Reynolds' movie choices? Exactly, precisely. Can my catchphrase be hey nice nice mental control of time you dickhead did you get it at the dickhead store did you get a staff discount because that's because that's where you work ha ha ha my catchphrase will be standing me standing next to you going yeah okay yeah good

but we fully support that character absolutely we do or if you want to take a twist on it maybe you think we do and then we don't

whatever you want man yeah man absolutely it's an honour to be nominated it is this next bit actually that's exciting it is right

this next bit is fully designed to cause tension between you two I'm ready he's got something to say here I never noticed but he's pointing this out are you noticed that mason always gets a last buy at the end of the at the end of the episodes why is that i have noticed that you son of a bitch i didn't slip it right in there i know i noticed i'm cool with it i started off that's fine yeah yeah it all works out yeah it's like

how we do fights in real life like if we're in a bar or something, you'll start it and I'll bloody finish it. You know what I mean? Yeah. FYI, please stop starting fights. Yes. I hate having to finish them all the time. Also, what's the name? It's, I'd say, the official weekly planet chooch.

Yes. I don't know what that means. It's probably some kind of nickname. Sure. Or it's derogatory. I'm not sure. I'm glad we said it though. Yeah.

He's from Scotland. Maybe that's a bad word in Scottish land. I think it's like a sheep's derogatory. I'm not sure. I'm glad we said it, though. Yeah, he's from Scotland. Maybe that's a bad word in Scottish land. I think it's like a sheep's stomach. Yes. And it's filled with its own organs. Oh, okay. Yeah. You boil it.

Yeah. What do you do with it? Like peg it at cars. Yeah, you peg it at cars. Okay, cool. Cheers, guys. P.S. Condolences on your recent loss, James.

And thank you to those people sending in some nice stuff. Oh, that's nice. I appreciate it. He goes, I've lost some family members this year, too. It really sucks. And P.P.S. Shut loss, James. Oh, thank you. And thank you to those people sending in some nice stuff. Oh, that's nice. I appreciate it. Yeah. He goes, I've lost some family members this year too. It really sucks. And PPS, shut up, Mason.

Yeah. But then he's got smiley face. Oh. So he's okay. All right. This is the last letter. Of all time. Of all time.

Stationery's been made illegal. That's right. Emails, illegal. This is from John. Snapchat's okay. Snapchat's fine. John Harmon I'm a huge action figure collector

and I sometimes look back on action figures that were never never were these were either action figures that were never made or shown off in prototype form

that I got excited for but ultimately never saw the release what's an action figure or action figure accessory you and Mason always you and Mason

always wanted growing up I always wanted an RC Transformers movie. RC was the girl character. She was pink. Yeah, I know her. She turned into a pink car. Why didn't you get it?

There wasn't one. They never made one. They made an action figure for every character in that. Except the girl Transformer. Except the girl Transformer. And Unicron, but he was giant. Well, they've since made an RC. They've made several versions. And you've bought several of them.

I haven't bought any of them because they're not the one that I want. The one that I want. So, you want the fictional RC from the 80s that they never made. Yes. Is that right? Yeah. Because they got like... Because the Transformers movie was like just... It was a clearing house

for all the old characters. Yeah. They killed all the other ones. Yeah. Because they were like, well, people already... All the kids already have them. They have an Optimus Prime. They can't buy them anymore. Yeah.

I mean, we know now that people will just buy new versions of them forever. Yes. So, like, we'll just clear them out. We will, you know, introduce these new characters. Springer. Cup. Hot Rod. Blur, right? I got all of those.

All of them. RC, there she is. Look at that. Oh, yeah. Sweet vehicle mode. Yeah. No action figure ever. Ugh.

Annoying. That's sad. Yeah. But at the same time, I think it's, like, meant to be. How do you mean? Like, they meant to do it on purpose. Yeah, absolutely. Because they didn't think it would sell any.

Yeah, definitely. Cool. You'd think it would though because I mean girls watch Transformers back in the day. They loved it. Yeah.

You don't know that. You don't know any girls. Yeah, true. I always wanted the turtle blimp. You had that. I had the turtle blimp. I know you did.

Yeah, yeah. I might even still have it somewhere. Do you want it? It'll cost you. I don't want it. Where am I going to put it? I guess next to my other turtle blimp. You had that. I had the turtle blimp, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I might even still have it somewhere. Do you want it? It'll cost you. I don't want it. Where am I going to put it? I guess next to my other turtle blimp.

Yeah, totally. You've since gone insane and bought every turtle blimp available. Like you have an eBay alert and every time a turtle blimp, you just buy it. Yeah. I'm not a big... I don't have a lot of space to put stuff and whatevs. I've got enough. In the future, you'll be like the old man from Up with turtle blimps.

You'll lift your house with turtle blimps. You'll lift your house with turtle blimps. I, um... No, I'm not a big collector. Like, I like action figures and if I go to a Kmart or whatever, I'll go and I'll

look through and whatever. But there's nothing in particular that I think I really feel the urge to go and buy. I've always kind of... I'd love to have like a sweet Daredevil statue. Yep.

Because I like the look of that character and I like Daredevil. And i got my eye on a couple but i don't know whether i'll actually i don't know yeah i don't i don't yeah i'm not really a collector of stuff anymore yeah uh but i am glad that it's all out there yeah i love that somebody has yeah i love every version of hey man absolutely i love seeing that. Yeah, all that stuff. Like a guy I know who's got like a whole lot of like Assassin's Creed, like, you know, like figurines and whatever. And it's like, I would never buy them, but they look amazing. And I just love going through and looking at people's collections and that.

But I can't be bothered keeping it myself. Totally. Yeah. Also wanted to announce himself as the official action figure customizer of the podcast. If you're not familiar with it, it involves taking pieces of action figures

and rearranging them to something else, often involving sculpting and painting to complete the project. His latest one is Batman 89. I looked at it, it's pretty sweet.

Oh yeah. But yeah, and that's at Mint Condition Studios if people want to check out his work. John Harmon, Mint Condition Studios.

Love it. Yeah, there you go. So way to sneak in a little plug for your company, John. I mean, you could have cut that out. You have the power to read that. I know, I know, but it was a nice email. Yeah, there you go. So, way to sneak in a little plug for you. I mean, you could have cut that out. You have the power to read that. I know, but it was a nice email. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah. That's great, John. And good luck. And

get me that goddamn turtle blimp, John. Customize it. I want real size. Customize that. Wow. How did they hide that turtle blimp? How do you get that into the sewer without anybody noticing? That's what I'm saying. That's a good point.

And when did they get all the hydrogen? Donatello. Good point, yeah. Oh, they probably used methane. Is that lighter than air? It's probably not. It'd have to be. Certainly flammable.

Certainly. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. Great. Also, I promised Atlas Shrugged on Twitter. A-T-L-S-S-H-R-U-G-D. A shout out.

Uh-huh. So, shout out, Atlas. Fantastic. You did it. Good. Yeah, that's the show for this week. Love it. Thank you to the Brute and the Baskalist for the theme songs.

Yes. We're big fans of the theme songs. Very much so. So, that's pretty good. Where can they find us on the internet? They can find us. Let me finish. WeeklyPlanetPod at Gmail and on Facebook and on Twitter.

You pointed at me, so I thought you wanted me to say it. Oh, no, no. No. Let you be like, stop. Yep. Don't. Yep. You can also find me at MrSundayMovies.

I'm at WikipediaBrown on Twitter. And our Patreon as well at Patreon slash MrSundayMovies. MrSundayMovies.com will be up at some point, right? Yeah, I'll get around to it don't go there now that's on hold at the moment there's probably like an under construction banner

there is little man digging little man no it's nothing it's just text so yeah that's the show though next week Hunger Games

week after that the TV shows week after that yes Hunger Games again I'm going to do it again let's watch them back to back then we'll read the books live

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