The Weekly Planet - 591 Man Of Tomorrow & Best Actors Who Pivoted

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

The important thing in the world has happened. The Rock doesn't have as many muscles and now he's serious and has glasses. And in celebration of that we talk the greatest pivots in Hollywood history.... Plus we talk an annoucement of the next DCU Superman movie, the Lara Croft TV show movies forward, a Call of Duty movie, 007 First Light James Bond gameplay, Alien: Romulus sequel loses it's director director, release dates for the Bluey movie and the Street Fighter film, trailers ahoy for 28 Days Later: The Bone Temple and Marvel Zombies and more! Thanks for listeningCheerful Early Podcast Festival with Guest Appearances on Plumbing the Death Star and Thumb Cramps: https://cheerfulearful.podlifeevents.com/New ep of James & Maso's Time Craspule out now on Big Sandwich! Plus entire back-catalogue of let's play videos, bonus podcasts, movie commentaries, early access and ad-free episodes all available on https://bigsandwich.coPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start05:32 Important Questions About Cars Universe07:51 Man of Tomorrow Superman Sequel Announced13:05 Sophie Turner Cast as Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)16:44 Call of Duty Movie Happening24:24 007 First Light James Bond Gameplay Trailer27:21 Alien Romulus Sequel Getting New Director30:28 Bluey Movie Gets Release Date32:59 Street Fighter Film Cast Reveal34:35 28 Days Later: The Bone Temple Trailer37:54 Marvel Zombies Series Trailer40:02 The Smashing Machine & The Rock's Big Acting Comments49:44 Best Actors Who Pivoted Genres and Roles01:32:35 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read (Feat. Peacemaker S2 Spoilers)01:48:52 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:07 The Weekly Planet, the Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me, as always, it's a fully recovered Nick Mason. Not true, but thank you for pretending and giving the listeners some hope. You are doing the work, though.
Starting point is 00:01:26 And by that, I mean not talking outside of this. Correct, yes. Yeah. Although I had lunch with my parents recently. Why? Because, you know. Father's Day. No. No.
Starting point is 00:01:36 That's the day. How would I have had time before this? Yeah, that's what I did. Huh. I had lunch with your parents. Oh, great. Are they doing well? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah, neither do I. But anyway, I had lunch with them. They didn't, I just spoke the whole time. I didn't let them talk. Good call. But I'm like, just so you know, I've lost my voice. So like, just talk amongst yourselves. and you know I'll just nod along
Starting point is 00:02:00 and then like two seconds past and they're like, so how's work? And I'm like, mom. Mom! That's great. Thank you. How are they? They're good.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Great. That's good to hear. Big week. Lots of news. It's been a big week. We've got a big topic because we know the rock, of course. He's pivoting into being a serious thin actor. That's true.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Which is what people do. Where's all this muscles gone? We don't know. He must have been fake the whole time. And he chopped them off. You're going to chop them off. Yeah. I think there's easier ways to do it.
Starting point is 00:02:28 But if you're The Rock, you take things seriously and you do things quickly and you build universes and destroy universes. He took that big muscle suit. We all know he was wearing. He got a special oiled one. Well, he did. He does for Moana 2. He's wearing a special Maui muscle suit in that, which I think is so fun. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:02:47 In Moana 2. Yes. Not Moana 2. Malina live action. He's wearing a muscle suit. You know about this? Nope. Is that out yet?
Starting point is 00:02:56 No. I don't know, man It doesn't matter Yeah And the funniest thing about this is And I guess we'll talk about it a bit later Is it, oh, this fucking AI shit You Google something
Starting point is 00:03:08 And it's just fucking fake thumbnails Got Zendaya and the Rock Look at this Oh here we go It's not even fucking in this movie Nice I James, you know I screenshot a lot of
Starting point is 00:03:19 A lot of fake stuff Yeah On the internet that I love What about this? Smoky in the band at 2026 Oh my god He's got a robot arm Ben Diesel with a robot arm.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Who's the woman? And here's the thing. That's a generic nobody woman. Whenever they, whenever AI builds one of these fake posters, the woman's just anybody. I'll show you another one. Look at him. There he is in his fake muscle suit. That is a fake muscle.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Pretending. That's supposed to be Elizabeth Olson. No. Okay. I'll find you another. It could be Emily Blunt or Elizabeth Olson or Scarlett Johansson. Okay, here's another one, James. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:50 It's for Hobson Shore 2, 2025. Oh my God. Look at this. That woman's nobody. But it's supposed to be Vanessa Kirby. Is it? It says Vanessa Kirby. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I don't know, man. Ask AI, your best friend. I'll have to do it. And girlfriend. That is true. Anyway, we're going to talk about actors who pivoted. Yeah. From acting to a different kind of acting or acting to something else.
Starting point is 00:04:16 That's right. Exactly. We do a classic topic episode. Oh, we got it because next week we're doing the long walk. That's right. So before we get to that, we've got to get this out of the way. We talked about how this year there's a Stevie. King adaptation about walking and a Stephen King adaptation about running.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Oh, no, we haven't yet. Well, do you want to talk about that? We'll talk about it now. Well, the running man is coming out as well, so we'll do, oh, we've got to see you for running and walking. What about moving at a brisk pace? Right. What about a movie about that?
Starting point is 00:04:41 What about Stephen King's the big canter? You know? Yeah. When's that coming out? About a haunted horse. Stephen King's haunted horse. Where is it? I don't know where it is.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I don't know. But that book definitely exists. Yeah. It'll be a short story among you. many stories that is released, that he's cocaine era. Anyway, we've got a bunch of news leading up. That's right. You can skip to anything below because there's time codes because Rob
Starting point is 00:05:04 Collings who edits, it's this. He does a great job probably. And sometimes if you're on Spotify, they'll put an ad in or throw it out or whatever. I don't know. They don't give us any money. But they put the ads in. And that's good. So someone's getting their money. Someone's getting some money somewhere. Probably a bad guy. Yeah, it's probably a bad guy getting
Starting point is 00:05:20 all the money, which we like actually. I think so. Yeah. So we might briefly talk about whether in the car's universe, if you get all your bits replaced, is it a ship of Theseus situation? We did talk about before the show and you said, save it. I said, save this gold. Save this incredibly original gold for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:39 That's right. So some of the news we've got, Mason, we're going to talk about the man of, not man of steel, the Superman sequel. That's not Superman too, but come on, man. Let's be real with each other. We're going to talk about some video game adaptations, including Lara Croft and also Call of Duty. And then also, there's a bloody, what was the James Bond's happening? James Bond game.
Starting point is 00:05:59 There was some footage of that. Yeah. Gameplay footage. Which is looking real slick, I believe. We're also going to talk about how Fede Alvarez is no longer directing Alien Romulus sequel. Oh. We're going to talk about some release dates for Bluey the movie and Street Fighter the Movie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Great. I should have put Street Fighter for the other. This doesn't matter. Trailets for 28 days, The Bone Temple and Marvel Zombies. And we're going to respect, again, the Rock's dramatic transformation into a serious man with serious little glasses. You just want to make fun of the rock. I don't want to make fun of the rock.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Doesn't he does not little glasses. I want to, no, yeah, that'd be really big. Because he has a really big head. Yeah. And they fit him appropriately, which means you put that on a normal person. Correct, yes. And they're ridiculous. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah. All right. Anyways, in the car's universe. Yes. Like, if you replace the parts on a car and upgrade them, is it a ship of Theseus situation where eventually, it's like what they did with vision, can you reassemble like an old Lightning McQueen from the 2006? six parts.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And then you've got the newer Lightning McQueen who's racing against Army Hammer or whatever happened in Cars 3, which is the real Lightning McQueen. The one with the car soul? Yeah. Which is the original? Where's the soul? I thought you were saying... I've never seen a car's movie.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Up his car soul. I thought you were... Right up his car soul, brother. I've never seen a Cars movie. When they open the doors, what do you see inside the car? I don't think you really do. It would be open the doors. Probably guts.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I was going to say Gards. Duts and brain matter. Because their eyes are on the windscreen, right? The eyes are on the windscreen, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know anything about it.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Honestly, it's a horrifying universe. Yeah. I mean, a lot of, you know, a lot of people have posited theories that they were humanoid at one point. Yeah. And then they got carified. Carified. And so there's some sort of creature in them. Like a Dalek.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah, like a Dalek. Exactly. Yeah. Like a carlic. Oh. This is going well. Like a castle. Anyway, we got to get into it.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Is that what that Australian movie's about? The castle? Yeah, the castle. Okay. A man's home is his castle, they say. Isn't that the truth? People should watch the castle. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It's, but it's spelled castle. Yeah. Also, yeah, there must have been a car Hitler. That's, because there's car, isn't there like car, World War II guys? What do you have? Like a BMW or a Mercedes or something like that. I mean, probably the car Hitler drove, but it's him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:17 You know? There you go. That, like, open-topped, you know, Hitler car. Hitler stuff. The Hitler car that Ryan Reynolds drives in Red Notice. Remember that Hitler car? They're like, this is cool, man. And it was Hitler's car.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It was a Nazi car, I'm pretty sure. Oh, my God. Because, like, Hitler's Hydro car is in Deadpool 3. It's not Hitler. It's Redskill's car. Maybe he just likes some Nazi cars. Maybe he does. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:08:42 He did come out and say he's not MAGA, but he doesn't get involved in anything this week. He's like, I don't have any strong political opinions. And that's brave. That is brave. I agree, also. Yeah. He's just like us for real No strong opinions
Starting point is 00:08:55 We buy tickets to his movie Big movie Speaking of Man of Tomorrow Got a bunch of information So this is the next movie After Supergirl in the DC You're a follow-up to Man of Steel Which is not Superman too
Starting point is 00:09:08 You're going to follow-up to Superman It's not a follow-up to Man of Steel So yeah No It's a follow-up to Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow That's great yes And we got some promotional art by What is about you mean
Starting point is 00:09:18 I'm actually going to talk about This artist later So I looked it up today. It's Jorge Humaneheth. Oh, wow. That's way better than what I said, which was wrong. Also Jim Lee and Mitch Girard's. Yeah, so a bunch of Superman and Lex Luthor concept art.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And Lex Luthor is wearing the giant green and purple power suit. Sometimes they're fighting, sometimes they're standing, and Superman's got a little screwdriver. Yeah, which suggests he built the suit maybe. Or helped, yeah, it could be a Kryptonian something or situation. And this is interesting because this is also the only Lex Luthoron film I could imagine wearing the suit. Can you imagine Jesse Eisenberg in one? Like a grey one? Yeah, but he gets trapped in and it's for comedy or whatever. It's for comedy or whatever. And I can also imagine Gene Hackman. Yeah, but he gets trapped in it for comedy or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And I can
Starting point is 00:10:05 imagine Kevin Spacey in one. Yeah. But he's doing crimes in it. But not like fun comic book crimes. No, like real crimes like he did in real life. And then all of a sudden he's like, I'm back. I'm at festivals. And everyone's like, is this allowed? We're allowing this? Well, all my accusers died. So I guess it is. Yeah. I guess it is allowed. Yeah, so... He got us on a technicality. He did, it's true. Because he killed all the people, allegedly.
Starting point is 00:10:27 He didn't kill anybody. He might have. Allegedly. But, so James Gunner said this movie is not a Superman movie, strictly speaking. Yeah. But it seems like it's a team-up thing. And look, based on how this sort of thing works, I'm going to guess it's a bigger threat from outer space. It's a brainiac situation.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And he must get Lex Luthor out of prison. And they got a team up. And he gets him a cool. He's like, well, I'm going to need a cool suit. So, yeah, so Daniel Richman, who has a pretty good track record, and then said, and then people come at me and they're like, well, what do you mean? He gets a lot of stuff right. That's me.
Starting point is 00:11:05 He's got, yeah, yeah, oh my God. Nobody's 100% except us. That's true. Superman and Lex are going to team up in Man of Tomorrow and we'll co-lead. So I guess that's what he means, why it's not a Superman cycle. I think it will be someone like Brainiac. I mean, it could be, I was going to say bizarre. I wouldn't be a bizarro.
Starting point is 00:11:20 It could be a krypton. Yeah, it could be, could be a Kryptonian invasion, you know, from the bottle city of Kandol. Yeah, it could be a Kandonian, Kandorian. Yeah. Kandolokian. Yeah. Do you think it is too soon to team these guys up considering in the last movie Lex Luthor did shoot a guy in the head? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I also think Lex Luthor is not like they're going to team up, but then Lex Luthor's going to try and turn on him at some point regardless. It's going to be they're mates for a bit and then they punch. Nice. I think it's going to be the reverse. It's flipping the genre. Well, we've always wanted. Yeah. People saying Supergirl is probably going to be in this.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Isabella and the Sede said on Instagram, see you soon. Aaron Pierre responded to this saying yes indeed. I would say Lobo is probably in it as well because he's in Supergirl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we're going to get Guy Gardner at Green Lantern. Yeah, probably Kyle Chandler has held Jordan. If he doesn't die in his grim HBO Max Greenland series or whatever. If he's not just shot by a random mugger on Earth.
Starting point is 00:12:16 That's right. And he bleeds out in an alley. Yeah, man. His pearls spill all over the floor His green pearls Yeah And then they fade away They fade away
Starting point is 00:12:26 I guess what is also interesting about this is It's pretty close It's July 9th, 2027 It's two years away James Gunner's been talking about This treatment for a while Apparently he's polishing up the script Like it's done and he's
Starting point is 00:12:36 You know getting it all happening Clayface is also shooting at the moment actually So it's going to be super down They're doing some stair stuff Do you see that? Oh my God On the stairs On the stairs?
Starting point is 00:12:44 You're going to dance on a stairs Can you imagine? Yeah I can imagine it No So they've got Supergirl, then they've got Clayface, and there'll be, lanterns will also be in between and some animated stuff, I think, also. And then we'll be getting this to you. I love that they're saying churning these out.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I wouldn't say churning these out. I like that there's like a pace to them. And also, he's clearly been working on this for a while. So it doesn't, I don't think it's a tight turnaround, it feels like, but I don't think it's going to be rushed. I think, yeah, I don't know. It felt a really long time. I don't know what, even though it's not that long.
Starting point is 00:13:17 It felt really long time between Man of Steel and Batman be Superman. Yeah, right. Does that feel that way? But this is like a similar, no, this is two. I read somewhere, I don't know if this is true. I don't know if you've read anything about this. No, that was four years. That's why.
Starting point is 00:13:29 That's why it felt. Yeah. No, it was three. It was 2013. Never, don't want. I don't know time, James. Don't worry what I'm talking about. I read some of the James Gunn, didn't he have like a,
Starting point is 00:13:38 maybe a balkhole problem or something like that? And he's like, I'm replaced it all with writing. Oh, okay. Which explains why he's just kind of like, you know, power and true. We did that, but we replaced it with podcasting. That's so true, isn't it? Yeah. No, we replaced podcasting with worse podcasting because it's easier.
Starting point is 00:13:54 We replace podcasting with lower effort podcasting. And I just want to say addiction isn't a joke and I don't endorse what you're doing. All right. July 9, 27. You got me. I think we should take it seriously for once. Not everything's a joke, basically. No, I don't think everything is a joke.
Starting point is 00:14:13 This is why Amazon MGM Studios, they have a Twitter account. If you can believe it Oh yeah, great Sophie Turner who of course is from Game of Thrones and other things She's set to star This was rumoured a while ago
Starting point is 00:14:25 As Lara Croft In the upcoming two-meter series For Amazon MGM This is the one that Phoebe Wallerbridge Is on board as a creator-writer Executive producer and showrunner Co-show-runner And probably a flashback
Starting point is 00:14:35 Where she's her mum or something Yeah, absolutely Got to get those two paychecks That's right Well she's finally doing another thing Not by now For now, yeah I don't think
Starting point is 00:14:46 It's for lack of trying. I think she's been trying to launch things. But she did octopus. She did octopus? Oh, the octopus documentary. Yeah. And she also did...
Starting point is 00:14:53 Occupatory. Yeah, documentary. Thank you. She also was Indiana Jones. That's true. She did a Star Wars at one point. She was going to do Mr. and Mrs. Smith and that she left.
Starting point is 00:15:02 These are things that she's done or haven't done. Yeah. But I mean, the question here is, Sophie Turner, big polygonal boobs or not. Yes, obviously. Yeah, obviously. Didn't there's going to be a cool reference to it? Probably. I think this could be really good.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Also, it might not be. Might not be. And that's the world we live in. Yeah. You know? I think that's really interesting. This isn't in the news, but I saw Zach Krieger again talking about his Resident Evil adaptation.
Starting point is 00:15:26 He's like, it's not really an ad- He's like, I haven't seen any of the movies. First of all, great job. But he's like, he wants to- How did you miss them? They're a cultural phenomenon. He said it's kind of got... Call yourself a horror film, mate.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Haven't seen the Resident Evil movies. I haven't seen Miller-Jovitch kick a dog out of mid-air. I haven't seen everybody got laid. it into bits. I haven't seen the one in the desert. Yeah. Three, probably. Probably three.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Yeah. But he was saying that it's kind of in the spirit of... I haven't seen the one with a big pile of Milojovich clones or whatever. How dare you? Where, it's funny how those ones are just they get to the end and there's just, it's just a border room left and a desolate wasteland. We've talked about this. So they're like, we did it.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah. We used our company to make a great profit. Yeah. And as, when I watched that originally, I went, can you imagine a bunch of these guys who were just like, they've destroyed the world and now they just have to sit in a bunker underground. Nobody would be that dumb. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And then I look at billionaires now and I'm like, they're doing it. Yeah, they're doing that right now. Yeah. They're going to have to sit in a bunker just eating lobster out of a can. Love it. Yeah. Love it for them. But he also, so it's going to have like the story structure of two and three and you kind of
Starting point is 00:16:42 descend more into howl as it goes where you follow a single lead. But it's going to be kind of have the vibe of four, which that to me sounds amazing. So I'm assuming there's going to be one main antagonist, like a monster that's like pursuing you, which is like two or three, two and three do. And four's. And you know, at the end, you're in a underground lab and dodging lasers or whatever. What happened? Which one was four again?
Starting point is 00:17:04 Four's the one. It starts in a village. We played it on. Oh, yeah. Chainsaw Joe. Back in his head. Very good game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:11 They recently redid it. It's really good. Cool. Anyway, Tomb Raider. Yeah. Remember Wesker in those movies? He's got sunglasses. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:20 A hole in his head? Tanticle coming out of his head, man. They're all doing that. Yeah, they're all doing that. They're like, I've improved myself. And it's like, this guy looks worse than ever. I actually don't tell him, but I actually don't think this is an improvement at all. I think he looks significantly worse.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It's got a big eyeball and his back. Yeah. And a crab arm. This is bad. You know, well, I don't think you should judge him by your subjective measures of beauty. Yeah. I think you're the real monster here. No.
Starting point is 00:17:48 No. It's the big eyeball guy. I forgot. THR also saying that Paramount have struck a deal with Activision, which you love. Well, it is two large corporations. Striking a deal. And one is eventually going to consume the other one. We don't know which way it's going to go yet, but it's very exciting.
Starting point is 00:18:06 To bring Call of Duty to the Big Scrain. Yeah. Paramount CEO David Allison calls it a dream come true. That was your dream? not my dream David Allison A dream Call of Duty
Starting point is 00:18:18 Coming through a big screen He doesn't say it's my dream He says a dream Yeah So someone's So he's He's not wrong Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:26 But if this If this tanks He can be like Just to be clear It wasn't my dream It was a dream Yeah A dream of a fool
Starting point is 00:18:33 I was just thinking Like didn't Michael B Jordan do He did a movie called Without Remorse That's right That was based on Tom Clancy's
Starting point is 00:18:41 Like a And it was also sort of a video game wasn't it a video game-ish thing? Maybe, yeah. There's been a lot of Tom Clancy video, a lot of splinter cell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Did you read, though, Spielberg was going to be attached to this? Yes. And they were like, we don't want him. And then he was like, I want complete creative control. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:19:02 that sounds scary. It sounds scary that Stephen Spielberg. That's not a dream come true. No, that Stephen Spielberg would make a movie based on some of our content. He made Ready Player 1 palatable. I was, that's exactly.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I didn't like it, but I could have liked it a lot less. Exactly. Also, didn't Stephen Spielberg have something to do with... Did he have something to do with Medal of Honor? Yeah, he's got some... Maybe through saving private Ryan. Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And he's like a fan of video guys. Yeah, he famously. Yeah. So the idea that... Hook is based off the video game hook, which is based off the movie. Oh. It's directed by Steven Spielberg. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah. Wow. Now, the idea that they're like, we shouldn't get Stephen Spielberg. Yeah. Let's get Paul W.S. Anderson. Yeah. He only made... Remember he did that kick in a dog scene?
Starting point is 00:19:50 He did do a kick in a dog scene. Maybe you can get a GI kicking a dog, but it's a Nazi dog for freedom. And it's in first person. It is. Yeah, he only made one of the most popular World War II movies of all time and then a series of television shows about people doing a war with each other. It's designed to thrill the massive global fan base by delivering on the hallmarks of what fans love about the iconic series while boldly expanding the franchise. to entirely new audiences. Now, James?
Starting point is 00:20:16 Imagine saying nothing. I have forgotten what we're talking about. It is Call of Duty, which is now is like, there's like 20 games at this point. So it could be set any time. And there's future ones and there's past ones and there's World War II and there's modern warfare. I'm going to help you out right here because this is going to answer all your questions. Five hundred a million copies of its various games have sold over the years. It must be nice.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It must be nice. With this series being the top selling franchise in the US for the past 16 years, that's definitely diminished. Like this was the biggest online game. gaming thing. And it still is, but it's been overtaken by fucking people. Marvel rivals. Yeah, sure. The series is a first person shooter spanning various series from World War I and Vietnam to the current day and decades in the future, there you go. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But it doesn't say specifically what it's covering. We're approaching this film with the same disciplined, uncompromising commitment to the excellence that guided our work on Top Gun Maverick, ensuring it meets the exceptionally high standards this franchise and its fans deserve. It's said in the present day. You're right? Because it's easier? Present day or very near future
Starting point is 00:21:12 because they reference Top Gun Maverick. Otherwise, they would have said something, something, something, something, World War II movie, something. I wonder who the villain is going to be, some vague rogue nation. Yeah, it'll be a rogue nation, Eastern European nation that split off from the Soviet Union, something, something they've acquired a new. They got hold of a nuke somehow. They got a hold of a nuke.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And they're not allowed to do that. Oh, yeah. Only our cool friends are allowed to have nukes. And here they are. It's a team composed of all our special. friends from throughout the world. I mean, how do you make this different from just like a whatever war movie? That's the next part.
Starting point is 00:21:49 You don't. It's just soldier guys. It's just soldier guys is what it is. I think it's in execution. And by that I mean you get a filmmaker who you, Zach Regger, for example, or a Stephen Spielberg, who knows the franchise takes the essence of it and does something with it. Sure. Or whatever this is.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Just make it like Topcom Maverick. Which was also a franchise. about war, but also planes are not Call of Duty. Correct. Great. Anyway, let's talk about... Is this getting a cinema release? I'll tell you almost certainly. Yeah. No hopes, no expectations. No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:22:23 What do you think of that? Yeah, that's great. Might not also come out. That's true. Also, these these games make so much money and the video game industry in general. The video game industry is so much bigger than the movie industry. Like, Grand Theft Auto is the new one is, I can't remember what it was, but it was going to make
Starting point is 00:22:39 like the past 10 years worth of movies made in total like all movies in like the first six months or whatever it's something crazy like that it'll make 500 billion dollars immediately yeah so I think when the movie F1 came out
Starting point is 00:22:55 we're talking about how like the Formula One industry to make this movie it's like a rounding error you know it's just a promotional thing and it's essentially free for them same with this they can make a call the duty movie every week Yeah, I hope they do
Starting point is 00:23:10 I hope they do too God, imagine a Call of Duty TV series Imagine tuning in And it's somebody who used to be on the office Or parks and wreck or whatever And they're ripped now Or the paper Because the paper's the new one
Starting point is 00:23:22 They've got Dominal Gleason Oh my God It's ripped now It's Pam from the office In Dominal Gleason They're ripped now And they're in a special forces team They've got to do a call of duty
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yep They work for the CIA A branch of the CIA It's undercover Yeah, it's not even It's so, not even the regular CIA, I know about it. They don't know. Because it's so undercover.
Starting point is 00:23:44 They're ripped now. They're ripped now. Only guns have three lasers on them. You know, one of those guns? Yeah, man, it's got three lasers. Yeah. God, we've got to clear this corridor. How are we going to do it?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Oh, we're ripped now. We'll be right. Tactically, obviously. Yeah. Pop smoke. Flashbang. Three lasers. God, this is a good show.
Starting point is 00:24:09 movie? Oh my God, who's that in the smoke? It's Angela from the office. What's she doing here? Ripped. She's being ripped. Didn't she used to be part of the CIA, but now she's joined this rogue element? Yeah, now she's on the other side. You thought Pam and Angela were best friends in the office, but now they're mortal enemies. But if this goes well, she'll become one of the good guys afterwards. Yeah. In the next season. They'll have to team up, even though she's done a lot of murders. Season or movie? Yeah, I don't No, it doesn't matter. Irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Multimedia franchise. I don't understand why people aren't giving us more muddy. I know I've said this before, but all our ideas are good or the same as what anybody's doing. Because we're giving them away for free. Yeah, you're right. It's the streaming model where people are like, I won't go to the cinema, I'll just wait, it's this.
Starting point is 00:24:52 They know we're just going to come out with Ripper ideas every week. And they can just claim them as their own. Yeah. Well, guess what? TM copyright. We've done it. Guess what? What?
Starting point is 00:25:03 you don't know is every week colleagues writes them all down and we print it off and then we put it in the mail to ourselves. That's right. We've got a big stack of envelopes. When we get the time to go through that,
Starting point is 00:25:14 my God. Yeah. They're all dated. Yeah. So you can't steal it. The thing we just said, whatever was. That's funny how you're dating it
Starting point is 00:25:21 and sending it to ourselves even though we're just saying them on here which is also dated at the time it comes out. But it's good to have backups. That's true. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Topcom Averick or whatever it is. James Bond game. Yeah. Got a look at that this week. That's right. Mm-hmm. They officially revealed the new James Bond, the guy who's playing in. Patrick Gibson?
Starting point is 00:25:39 That's right. From something? He's from something. He's from things. Do you think this means he might be in the movie? No, I think they're going to keep them different on purpose specifically. Because then they don't. Because then they don't have to pay somebody something.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Uh-huh, yeah. Yeah. Can you imagine paying somebody something? I mean, I would be like, I would like to be the someone being paid. Yeah, but it wouldn't be you though. No, it wouldn't be me. Yeah. It looks a mix between hip man and uncharted.
Starting point is 00:26:03 It does. The uncharted vibes are jumping out of a plane. Yeah, yeah. Again, that's a classic James Bond thing. Yeah. You know? One of my favorite things is you've got at like a persuasion meter. So if you jump in through a window, they're like, who are you?
Starting point is 00:26:15 And he's like, I'm the inspector of windows. That's right. Oh, what? And then you keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can only do it so many times where you're like, I don't think that's the window inspector. Yeah, that's eventually word gets around on the, on the window inspector. Wasn't he here yesterday?
Starting point is 00:26:28 He was here yesterday. So I love that. You also, your gadget, your watch has limited, like, lasers and abilities, which I like. But they've sort of fudge that a bit because they're like, you can use resources in the area to refuel your gadgets. Just put this garbage in your watch and it'll recharge the laser. It's like the fuel system from back to the future or whatever in the car. Yeah. Apparently a lot of red barrels to explode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Which I don't have a problem with. There's a scene on the, there's a scene, I think, set in an airfield where you're shooting those barrels and everything's exploding. Yeah, I mean, I wondered because of course, it's higher interactive. Yeah. They do Hitman and it's mostly sneaking about. Yeah. There's a little bit of shooting. I was like, how are they going to work that?
Starting point is 00:27:11 But they've, you know, clearly worked on that significantly. It is seemingly quite cover-based. Yeah. So they're not breaking you ground, but it is, it looks like it's very serviceable. I think there was some more so interesting, some environmental elements, which you'd get in Hitman. There's a moment when you're on a cargo plane and you can use your watch or whatever. Me, James Bond. Yeah, you.
Starting point is 00:27:31 where you use your watch or whatever, and it tilts the plane. Oh. So everything inside it, all the cargo and cars like slide to one side if you shoot out and it gives you like, and you don't have to do that. But yeah. And also you can, you're not really allowed to just shoot people, but if somebody threatens. I mean, you are because you've got a license to kill. No, but there's a moment where like if somebody goes to shoot you, it comes up and it goes,
Starting point is 00:27:52 all right, your license to kill is good. And then you're like, great. And then you can just start killing. Hang on, hold up. I've got to check. Oh, man, my license to kills expired. I'm going to go back to admin. Oh, I've got to get my photo taken again.
Starting point is 00:28:05 When is this out next year? Yeah. I don't know when. Let me check. I think it just says 2026. I made they put a heart. No, sorry, March 27, 2026. There you go.
Starting point is 00:28:14 They did announce it. That's great. That's actually right. I'll get it. I mean, I also got that Indiana Jones game and I've barely played it. But you got it. I got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:23 You were part of the machine of capitalism. That's right. That's good. Yeah, that's what people love me. It's by a tune fab. Fedé Alvarez says he's no longer. directing Alien Romulus 2. Oh, so we just finished...
Starting point is 00:28:34 He's going to direct Alien Romulus 3. Dude, come on. Get it together. Straight to three. I mean, he might. We just finished a script, actually, for a secret. Actually. If you even care. But maybe I would have just died and then you wouldn't have cared.
Starting point is 00:28:48 He says, well, I want to pass the torch on. This one as a director. I'm going to produce it with Ridley Scott. And we're going to produce it together. And we're now trying to find the new filmmaker to come in. I think that's usually what has happened. Except for Ridley, filmmakers come. You make one and you put.
Starting point is 00:29:01 pass the baton onto the next, next one. But we wrote the story because we really love what we started with Romulus, and we want to continue the story. We love the story, and now we just want to find a director who really wants to go for the jugular. I think this also, because it's not Stephen Spielberg. No. Because he's going to have his ideas.
Starting point is 00:29:17 He'd come in and say, what if we did this? No, I don't think so, Spielberg. I don't think the Disney Corporation are going to approve of that. No, exactly. I mean, I liked Romulus, and I'm really liking Alien Earth. Did you watch the latest episode? I'm behind. Which was just alien again.
Starting point is 00:29:30 but in a very interesting way I'm liking that show a lot it's what's the eyeball monster up to gets in a bloke it's good yeah classic eyeball monster when I saw him I knew you knew he's getting in a bloke he's a guy he's gonna get into a block yeah
Starting point is 00:29:46 it's fun because it's basically the latest episode and this is somewhat of a spoiler I guess it does a flashback to what happened to the crew who were carrying all the monsters from the first episode yeah and it's like oh everything's going badly and everything's turning everyone's turning on each other and then it's like, oh, and there's a xenomorph.
Starting point is 00:30:03 So it's like the ninth most dangerous thing that's happening at any one time, which is, I think, really good. I wasn't going to say about this. Yeah, I think he ended up, Fidea Alvarez was directing something else. So I think the start day got pushed and maybe this is why this is happening.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Maybe they pushed him out. I don't know. I was like, if it's Ridley's got on board, I'm hoping they're tying Prometheus stuff in. Absolutely. I'm hoping they're bringing back David is what I mean by that. But we'll say.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And we'll see and then we'll know. That's true. And then we'll have an idea of what's happening in Hollywood. Not that we need because we already know. We already know. We're Hollywood insiders. That's right. And wait, we're also Hollywood outsiders.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah, that's right. We're outside the system. So we can say what we like. But we are inside us. Yeah. Yeah. We know what's happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:48 They don't pay us though. No, they shouldn't. Well, I would love $5 million for just anybody. I agree. Once again, putting the call out. Yeah. If you've got five loose million dollars. All I'm saying is,
Starting point is 00:31:00 You've got comedians going to Saudi Arabia. Yeah. You can throw me $5 million. I'll take your blood money. Are you going to Saudi Arabia? Could I? Do you think? I guess you could.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I probably wouldn't take $5 million from Saudi Arabia, honestly. No, I probably wouldn't either. Yeah, which, honestly, I wish I was a person who would do that. Me too. Oh, well. Maybe next time. What do you mean? Well, they already asked me.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I missed the email, all right? I would have done it otherwise. There we go. Here's the big reveal. There it is, yeah. Bluey, the movie has a release date. You might be like, this isn't interesting, but this is the... It's going to be live action.
Starting point is 00:31:42 No. Men in suits. No. Wow. It's August 6th of 2027. It's men in suits, like the big phone ones, and it's just a prank show. Nobody else is an actor. They're just walking around in real life, going to the shops and stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Tripping over food or whatever. They're seeing off Bluey. school. By Bluey. Bluey's just walking into a regular school. Cops are called. And it's like a guy-sized Bluey? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Like a full-size, six-foot Bluey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. BBC Studios are doing this with Ludos Studios and Walt Disney Studios. It is going to be created. It's a three-studio situation. That's right. It's going to be created and directed by Joe Brum.
Starting point is 00:32:19 He's leaving Bluey after this. Bluey will continue. Oh, did he create Bluey? He was pivotal in it. Did he create Brum? The car Brum? Yeah, he created Bluie. Brum.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Did he? I don't know. Did he? I don't think he did. Did he? Maybe he's named after Brum. Yeah. This, Bluey is, I think, the biggest streaming show in the world.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Did you direct after Brum? The sad series about the end of Brum and the aftermath of that? I think he might have, yeah. I, um, there's 154 episodes. They're incredible. They're incredible. They are incredible. Or do you find them credible?
Starting point is 00:32:53 I mean, that's a great point. Yeah. It's both. Wow. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, I can't stress an. enough how big this show is.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Like, this will be huge. Maybe the Bluey Fever will have died down by then. But I don't know, I don't know if we are getting any new episodes between now and then. So I think maybe, you know, it'll just kind of build and build. And then this will be the pinnacle of Bluey and then it'll be all downhill, I'd imagine. Probably, yeah. Even though Disney will keep making it or whatever. Do you think part of the...
Starting point is 00:33:17 Even though Disney don't own it. No, that's true. Do you think that part of Bluey success in America is that Bluey is actually blue? Oh. Because under normal circumstances, blueies are red. Yeah. Yeah. If you call somebody bluey in Australia, so they have red hair.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah. But I think Americans would be like, what? What's happening? Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. They're very literal, aren't they as a people? Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:33:39 But we love them. We love them and we respect them. And we'll take their money. Bless them. Five million. $5 million. If you could pass the hat around in America. Yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I'll endorse whatever government you've currently got. I didn't look into it. I'll just take it. Oh, yeah? I don't even care. That's terrific. I'll have dinner with whoever, whoever your president is. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Wow. You're going to have some room temperature at McDonald's. You better believe it. I mean, it usually is room temperature anyway. That's true. What's the difference? Street Fighter, the live action movie is also, well, it's a remake also, that has an October 16th, 2026 release date, and they did a character reveal of who's playing who.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And it's a digitized. Characters elects. Love that. None of them really kind of look like, most of them don't look like, I think, what they're maybe going to look like in the movie. Some kind of do and some don't. Also, did that character select screen suggest that Shadowloo, the terrorist organization, is in Australia?
Starting point is 00:34:36 I think it did. How dare they? Right. We've just got white nationalists or whatever. Yeah, we just got the regular ones. Those are our terrorists. Yeah. Just Nazis running about.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah. That's actually disrespectful what they've done here in this game. Yeah, look, Shadowloo. Well, I guess they've got to put something on the map. It's near Perth. Yeah, it would be. Yeah, would be, wouldn't it? Because that's where roves from.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Right? Yeah, exactly. Right? Yeah. This makes you think. It does, isn't it? So there you go. Two things.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Two things coming out. Mason, Trailers-A-hoi. One is for 28 days. Oh, David Dalsmouchin's in it. Yes. He's, is he, I think he's bison. Oh, yeah, no, actually, I did know that. I apologize, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Yeah. Who's Jason and my mother going to be? He's Blanker. Oh, yeah. Good, right? Good, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yeah, Cody Rhodes. All these people are good. Yeah. And odd. This was going to be the... Yeah, it is. This was going to be the... 50 cent.
Starting point is 00:35:32 This is going to be the racker-racka guys. Oh, that's right. Yeah. I can't remember who's directing it. The racker-racker guys. They're back. Yeah. They're back-a-backer.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Backer. Good stuff. 28 days of bone temple has... 20 years later. You don't need to tell me twice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is the fourth 28 movie. Because we just got one.
Starting point is 00:35:54 This is actually... It's written by Alex Garland and Danny Boyle has a hand. hand in this, but he's producing at the very least, and I think he'd have story credit. Nia DeCosta is directing this. That's right. It is obviously a direct sequel to... And she directed the Marvels? Yeah, sort of.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah. Sort of. To the extent that anybody directs a Marvel movie these days. I still haven't watched it, but she did the Candyman 2021 reboot thing, and apparently that's very good. And I didn't mind the Marvels. I actually thought it was better than Captain Marvel. But I'm very interested in this. I know 28 years later wasn't everybody.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I liked it a lot. But I thought it was terrific. And this is obviously a direct continuation of that. We get more of what's going in with the gang that turns up at the end. Rafe finds us in it. That giant donned dude is right in a room. There's a dude with a giant dog, sorry, giant by like a normal person's standards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Those are all fake dongs, by the way. I know. Did we talk about that? It's for dong continuity. What's for dongtonuity, but also there's a child act. Yes. So you can't have live dongs around a kid. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I think that would still do damage to a person physically and emotionally. I guess that's true. So what I would say, though, I think is that if you are like, well, the last one's a little bit too sappy, I think this one is just going to be full on insanity. Absolutely. Because it's got the weird Jimmy Saville gang. Yeah. And they're going to, they're going to mess up this guy's whole deal. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:24 They're going to knock that bone temple down. That's right. Ray finds is going ham. He seems to be going. Yeah. Killeen Murphy's apparently in this one. I think if this one does well, then they'll talk about doing another Danny Boyle one, which is very Killian Murphy focused. I hope it does really well. Because I don't think the last one did as well as they did as well. I think it did okay, but it didn't do as well as they wanted it. Aaron Taylor Johnson in this one? I think so. Yeah, I think he's in the trailer. Okay. I can check that for you if you want most. And if you don't mind me telling you the truth about that. I only want the truth. Yes, he is in it. That's good. Yeah. And Killian Murphy is also in it. We don't know. No, I don't think he's going to be in a much.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Don't think it to be a Killian Murphathon. Mm-hmm. All right. All right. You know how Oppenheimer was a real Killian Murphathon? Yeah. Well, we can't have that every day. No, we really can.
Starting point is 00:38:09 We cannot be blessed in such a way. Also, Alfie Williams is in this and I said this. I think when we talked about the movie, he's not the kid from Netflix in Cell show. That's correct. Which is a very good show. But he was in his dark materials and he was Ghost Theo in the episode No Way Out. So that's probably what I was thinking of. You were absolutely thinking of that, yes.
Starting point is 00:38:26 It shall I've definitely watched. And I know who's in. I know Lin-Manuel Miranda's in it and whatever. You don't even need to tell me, I don't even have he's in that. He's probably in it. He's probably in it. And if he's not, I'm joking. Yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Obviously. It's not my fault. You don't get humor. Yeah. Americans. But we'll take your money. We will take your money, yes. Which is not a joke.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Because you're thinking, those Aussies, they're always making a joke. Not about this. No, this one's real. We'll take your money. Yeah. Send the hat around. Let me stalk to your president. Take your big cowboy hat around.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Send it around, put some cash in it. Yeah. We also got a trailer for Marvel Zombies, which I was under the impression wasn't a continuation of the Marvel's What If Zombies. But it is, because Paul Rudd's ahead. Correct, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:11 So this continues all the things that we saw happen. Zombofied. All the characters that are hard to get back as voice actors are now zomified. Correct. Except Spider-Man. Spider-Man, yes. Initially.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Probably he'll be zomified. He was horrified later. Because he's doing a real, like, spectacular zombie kill situation. Yeah. in the show, in the trailer, which suggests to me he's going to show up, make a big splash, beheaded immediately. Exactly. But, yeah, some of the voice actors are returning, we got Simuulu and Florence Pugh.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Aquafina's there. Lou and Pew? Yes, David Harbour, Elizabeth Olson, apparently. Okay. But she's already zumbified. Randall Park's in it. Poor Rott has mentioned, White Russell. Well, I mean, the Elizabeth Olson thing, maybe there's a flashback.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah. Or maybe, because in the Marvel. In the Marvel. Sorry, who? Manvolani is in it. Oh, nice. Oh, Ironheart's in this. In the Marvel, uh, zombies comics, the zombies are intelligent.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And in this, they're not. They're classic zombies. Yeah. Maybe they're going to develop intelligence. Mm-hmm. Maybe we'll develop intelligence. I'm likely, mate. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Also, Blades in this. Blade. It gets a lot of play in this. It's, uh, also, it's... It's not Mahershal or Ali. And it's also not Blade Blade, it's Moon Night Blade. It's Moon Blade. It's Moon Blade.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah. I am Moon Blade. What? Don't worry about it. Yeah. It's not a problem. play. I'm here to help. It's not a play on words, to be clear. You're going to think about it for a while. I'll be like, Moonblade, is it, is it a reference, something? Is it a part of it?
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah, is it a moon-shaped blade? I have some moon-shaped blade, but that's not what I'm called that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I chose the name first. Um, yeah. My son liked the what-if of this, so I'll probably watch it with him, maybe. Or he'll watch it, and I'll kind of come in and out of the room and go, who's that? And he'll tell you. He'll tell you. He'll tell you, he'll tell you the whole backstory as if you don't already know. Yeah. He's been watching Guardians of the Galaxy 3 in like fits and starts. Oh yeah. And great movie.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Great fucking movie. It might be the best one. I don't know. One's very good. And they're all good. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. Anyway, the smashing machine, you know about this?
Starting point is 00:41:13 I've heard about it. Yeah, man. This is a movie that the Rock is in directed by Benny Safdi, I believe. This just premiered at the Venice Film Festival. And it had a 15-minute standing ovation where the rock cried the entire time. Wow. Yeah. He cried and he cried and he.
Starting point is 00:41:27 lost mass as we looked at it. You got more dehydrated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But as we know, what's even a 15-minute standing ovation? Is that even good? Yeah. Because I remember something got on 11-minute standing ovation a while back, and people like, that's embarrassing for them.
Starting point is 00:41:45 That's, they should just close it up. Don't ever unleash this. What do you do after a minute, too, you know? It's great. I mean. Prey hands? You do a little wave? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:55 You put your head in your hands. You do that. You do both hands up. Yeah, yeah. You'd point at people and go, no, you. Yeah, nice. That's actually you. That's you.
Starting point is 00:42:04 That's your mate. That's your mate. And then you sit down. And you just stare straight ahead of the chair in front of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For the remaining 13 minutes. Awful. Yeah, awful, correct.
Starting point is 00:42:18 But people are saying this movie's so good. The Rock actually, he's talked about, now he's debuted a new look. Debutted. He's got glasses. That's serious. He's not wearing sunglasses anymore. He's not like his character in Ballers, Johnny Ballers. Johnny Ballers out.
Starting point is 00:42:33 He's this guy, himself. Yeah, that's correct. This guy. But is he himself or he's still the character of the rock? I love this. And a different stage of his journey. He spoke to the BBC and he said, what he's been doing, he said in the past, it can push you into a corner and category.
Starting point is 00:42:48 This is your lane. This is what you do. And this is what people want you to be. And this is what Hollywood wants you to be. And I understood that. And I made those movies and I liked them. And they were fun. and some were really good and did well and some were not so good. Red Notice for both.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Sure. That was really good and did well. It also wasn't so good. He should pick a movie like Ryan Reynolds has. Pick one movie to be like, well, that wasn't my best work. Can you believe I did this? Can you believe I did that one movie that was bad? And then we all focus on that.
Starting point is 00:43:13 That's right. Yeah. But he said, but I think what I did realize is that I had this burning desire and this voice that was just saying, what if there's more, what if I can. Sometimes it's hard to know what you're capable of when you've been pigeonholed into something. It's harder to know, wait, can I do that? I feel like I can. So yeah, he's done this biopic based on a real MMA fighter. Mark Kern. Yeah. And his wife played by Emily Blund is like, I'm really concerned that you're fighting. And actually, this is quite taxing on both you and me
Starting point is 00:43:43 as your wife and I'm taking my kids to my sisters. That's so great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's one of those ones. Yeah. And people are like, this doesn't feel genuine. When you say people, you mean you i mean me yeah too but also if you look at every comment it's like you're talking about being pigeonholed it was by yourself yeah it was seven buck productions your production company made like skyscraper and rampage in san andreas and you tried to take over the fast and furious franchise and the dc universe the dc u like these weren't i understand there is a certain expectation of like this is who you are and i think and i don't know this but i think he looked Dave Battista, who slimmed down and has been actively, really for as long as he's been
Starting point is 00:44:27 acting, trying to do different and more interesting things. Yeah, it's a break out of the stereotype, a big muscle man, there's got to be a henchman or an action hero. So he's, like, ever since he came on the scene with, like, Guardians, like, very quickly he was in, like, Blade Runner 2049, and he still did action movies and all of that, but he was doing these other, and it didn't always work, like, he'd do, like, a stuber or whatever. Sure. But he was...
Starting point is 00:44:51 We've all done a stuber, though. Hey, you do a stupor or two. Don't worry about it. Just flush. Double flush. And I don't know. It does, to me, and I'm not saying this isn't good and this isn't what he feels, but it does feel like this is the playbook now and I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah, this is... And I might be wrong. Look, I honestly think there's probably an element of genuine self-reflection in there. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean... I think maybe he's just a, look, actually, let me ask you this question.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Do you think if he attempted to be the face of the D.C. EU 10 years before he did, do you think it would have worked? I mean, that was right in the Snyder era. Yeah. So probably not. Okay. Oh, wait. That would have been like after the dark night.
Starting point is 00:45:41 No, because he would have had to do it like peak fast and furious. Right. Uh-huh. So which would have been like 2011, 2013. Well, he had to choose one. Yeah. I don't know, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I don't know. But he's very contemplative in interviews now, and he has glasses. That's true. And I'm sure he's worn glasses before. But I don't know, man. Let me ask you this question. This is unrelated to fame or Hollywood. Then how would I know?
Starting point is 00:46:06 Yeah, okay. And here's my question. That's my wheelhouse. You've seen the rocket his biggest. Yeah. And now he's like this. How long has that taken? If you could cycle back whatever he's doing, you could probably do it in five or six months.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Okay. All right. Yeah. What was the last time we saw him in public? Well, he was wearing that big Molana suit. Oh, yeah. And that's the other thing, right? So he apparently, and this is allegedly that he wasn't even going to be on set for that,
Starting point is 00:46:31 it was going to be a stand-in and they were going to use deep fake technology to put him in that. So I think it's like the idea that he's taking this artistic turn. When you're also maybe doing things like that, that was a rumor, then how much of this is genuine? How much of this is like, how could I get in front of everybody all the time while also, being taken seriously. Because he's made a ton of money at the box office. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:55 He's like top five most successful level. As we talk about, you know, the various wrestlers turned actors, Dave Batiste has done the most artistic stuff. John Cena seems to be having the most fun. He's the funniest still, yeah, probably. The Rock has made the most money, indisputably.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Do you think his goal was like, I'm going to be the number one box office draw that's ever been? And then that didn't work. And he's like, I think it did work for a time. Yeah. But now he's like,
Starting point is 00:47:25 but now he's missed the window. I'm going to be the, now I'm going to be the most serious actor slash wrestler. Yeah, because I think the, because that's the other wind is. My feeling here is that he's realized that the, the box office drawer is dropping. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:37 He cannot do that anymore. Like it, no, he's missed the window to do that. He has to pivot to something. And also, if someone was to do that at this point, it wouldn't be him.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah. Like it, I wouldn't even be like a Tom Cruise. But also, So he's put in good acting performances in the park. Well, that's the other thing I think he is a good actor. I mean, the thing we've talked about in the past. He is capable.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that we've talked about how he did interesting roles when he started. Yeah. And he can be funny. Maybe you should pivot to a 824, which he's done. Yeah, you said this exact thing that he made years ago. Do you remember? You said Benny Safi.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I did. I think I probably said Safty brothers. Sure, well, that's when that were the Safty brothers. Yeah, yeah. Now they're the safty boys. Yeah. Two unrelated saffty boys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Safty not guaranteed. Yeah. Doesn't even make any sense, but we'll work backwards. It's fine, I don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I do think it's interesting. And again, I'm not saying he's not capable of doing something like this.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Or even... But there is not a... There's not a pure... The motive isn't entirely pure. No. It's become the world's greatest... actor from a different angle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:51 It's like, well, maybe I can't be the world's biggest box office draw now, but what if I went an Oscar? Yeah. And he might, he might get one before, Bradley Cooper. Yeah. And Bradley Cooper would be devastated. He'll be devo. He'll probably go one for Jorale or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:05 He'll just put up a sad social media post that says Coops is Devo. It'll be like an Instagram post, just one that's just black and the white text says Coops is Devo and then a broken heart emoji. And we'll all know. Well, I'll know. Yeah. but I think also what's interesting is like him coming out and doing this I can still feel like the rock social media and hype machine behind it but it's just packaged differently yeah
Starting point is 00:49:31 whereas when Dave Battista sits in an interview and he's like I'm so grateful for James Gunn for giving me that initial shot yeah and then being able to work with dene villain who and then doing like a Zach Snyder zombie movie and doing comedies and he wants to do uh he wants to do like a be of the lead in a rom-com or whatever and he slimmed down because he's like, it's hard. I'm in a lot of pain because I'm carrying all this muscle. And I know he also has a... We feel that pain.
Starting point is 00:49:54 We do, we do. And I know also that, like, he also has a whole mechanism behind you. Absolutely. But they're different sizes. Yeah, and I just... That's right. Yeah. Everybody's got management and an agent and a stylist and whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:08 But, yeah, he's... It's a different level. Yeah. It's fascinating. Because, like, the rock, you could just retire. Yeah. You've got so much money. Unless he's got a lot of debt.
Starting point is 00:50:18 we don't know we don't know sometimes you're like sometimes you're like oh this guy's probably got all the money in the world yeah then they're like then they're doing a you know Disney channel movie or whatever and you're like you spend all your money we know what's happened here just release ballers on DVD you'll be fine exactly right yeah all right anyway so let's talk about some other release at a Walmart where they still sell DVDs they do probably rebranded as Walmart do we have that we don't have Walmart no we should get one we have Costco yeah yeah All right. We should get one of those, too.
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Starting point is 00:52:04 That's right. Let's talk about some wrestlers up top. Yeah. So we've got to, you mentioned, but like Dave Batista and John Sina. I've done it. Yeah, different paths though, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, because John Sain even started doing like.
Starting point is 00:52:17 The Marine. And I was like, when, when I first saw that, I'm like, it doesn't look like it's for me. Yeah. It seems too kind of, generic, generic, patriotic kind of like. Also, like, who is this guy even? Yeah, yeah. Because we're not really wrestling fans that were like, we don't need to see this guy in a movie. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah. Was that popular? I mean, I guess in a certain demographic, I don't think it would be popular now. Yeah, right. Like, but I guess it to a degree. But a lot of that. And there were sequels to that, I think, but he was not in them. He was also a rapper for a while.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Oh, my God. He does it all. That's right. He's got that famous clip with, it's an A-team. Remember he's got the... A-team, the movie? The live-action movie? No, no, but there's a, he's got a music video where it's him and Bumpy Knuckles,
Starting point is 00:53:01 who's another rapper and another guy. And it's an 18-it-thing thing. Oh, my God. Is it good? I think it's fun. It's a lot of fun. I think it is. I'm going to say it is.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And he got that hair transplant recently he's been talking about? Okay, great. Yeah, he's like, I filled in my bald spot because people were rude. But also, I think it's it. I think he handled it really well because he was like, yeah, it was affecting me and people do it and like, good for me. Yeah. And I'm like, good for you.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Yeah. You should do that. If that's what makes you happy. Yeah. You coward. No, I think that's great. Genuinely. You know, people fly over to turkey and they get their hair transplants.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Do you think you did that? Me? No, do you think he did that? Do you think I would? Yeah, I'll probably do it. When should I go? I mean, you just kind of fly to turkey to take in the cuisine and the... That's right.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And I'll shave my head unrelated. Okay, interesting. I'm not really doing it. I'm just going to show my head. Apparently people go there now and they just walk, there's just guys walking around. It's just bleeding scalps. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:54 It's good. I agree. Yeah. Anyway, but I think he's, he also made an effort, I'd say even like more than Dave Battista to be like, I'm going to be a funny comedian actor. And he's done it multiple times,
Starting point is 00:54:06 like blockers he did. Yeah, yeah. He was in train wreck. Maybe he was in that Amy Schumer thing, like 10, 15 years ago, whenever that was. Now, but here's the thing, though, do you think that's a genuine pivot?
Starting point is 00:54:17 Or do you think he's... I think he likes... I think he picks things that he likes. Well, he is also, like, genuinely off-the-cuff funny. Yeah. Like, you see him in interviews and things. He can be quite sincere. He's often quite sincere.
Starting point is 00:54:30 And he's quite funny. I think if he didn't have the capacity to be funny off script, it would be odd that, like, it would feel like a disingenuous pivot. If he's like, I'm the funny guy now. Yeah. But, like, the fact that I think that he has... He had the capacity to be like, I can do a lot of sincere stuff. If I can do funny stuff, it would be more fun to be in funny stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And there's a lot of sincerity in peacemaker as well. Has he done, like, he's done action movies, which on the face of them can be quite sincere. Yeah. But has he done a drama? Like a straight up drama. Well, he was in The Bear briefly. That's true. Which also I didn't like.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah. I was like, that's John Cedar. Right. Yeah. They've gone too far. Yeah. I mean, I know this is all. It's also disrespectful to the core cast that they're like, yeah, we can get big names for one episode.
Starting point is 00:55:22 We'll do it all the time. Yeah, we got Bray Larson. Disrespectful. But I think, and I think a lot of this is also PR and good for the brand and whatever. But also at a point where like he's done the most make a wish like meetings ever. Yeah, he's done like 600. Yeah, even if that's PR, that's great. Like that's like, does it really matter if he doesn't really mean it?
Starting point is 00:55:44 Which I don't think he doesn't really mean it. But I think that's really wonderful. Yeah. Like, he doesn't have to do that. Does he do them now in character as peacemaker? I don't know. I think people just love John Cena. They do.
Starting point is 00:55:55 You know? And he's got a, he's got some nice stuff to say. Yeah, he does. He's always genuine in an interview. Like, you'll give an honest answer. Or it's PR, I can't tell. Yeah, we can't tell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And Dave Batiste are very similar, you know, for similar reasons. Yeah. And they're action men. It's true. They're doing action. Yeah. And they've got a good deep squat, which is good. Mason, let's talk about.
Starting point is 00:56:16 some comedians who I think pivoted in who and there's like varying degrees of success of these people Seth Rogen you're talking about Seth Rogen no I'm talking about comedians who pivoted into more serious stuff okay like you got Rob Wombs who did like hook Mrs. Doubtfire Jumanji Flubber started as a sitcom character like it was known for that um Popeye dreadful mud mud village movie yeah and then he he took dramatic dramatic turns and like most notably you get like goodwill hunting but I feel like for him he always, he started that really early. Yeah. Like he did
Starting point is 00:56:50 the Dead Palt Society Good Morning Vietnam. Like those were pretty early. Yeah, great. He's like Hollywood career. And then later he did like a one hour photo on an insomnia. He didn't have a set of Louis where he was himself and that was quite sincere. I think. I mean, Louis pivoted didn't he? Yes, he certainly did.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah. Well, technically not. I guess. I don't know. It's certainly a gray area. I don't think we could dispute that. It's crook but i think of like it's a real shame maybe we did that yeah he self-funded that what was it called harrison pete harrison p yeah it was good and stevee be shamy and uh sold it himself on his website yeah yeah yeah yeah he also made a movie with like what an innovative pervert
Starting point is 00:57:32 creep people can be two things yeah they can be two or three things yeah but i think of like because then you've got like yadam sandler jim kerry eddie murphy stea well jim kerry is the one i was thinking of yeah he doesn't really he doesn't really do that anymore though. Jim Carrey, no. Well, he retired from acting too much. And then he's like, but I'll only come back for Sonic movies. He's for $10 million at a time or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:53 But I think Jim Carrey, I thought it was at one point it was like this is some Hollywood bullshit and a break from, you know, he's got so much money that he's just like nothing is real and like, I think he's Hollywood insane. He's definitely Hollywood insane. There is that, but I also think he spent so much time being this kind of Ace Ventura guy. And I think it like, if they get wore him out. And he was trying to be a certain way and he's like, I don't know, I'm just like an empty vessel and nothing's real.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I mean, speaking of, James, Ace Ventura 3 lost in time. Oh, howie, how did you get lost in time? I don't know, man. Probably an amulet. That looks like a poster for an Apple Plus movie. Yeah, it does, isn't it? Yeah. God damn.
Starting point is 00:58:38 That's good. Adam Sandler. That's the perfect, yeah. I mean, he's just, he does it back and forth. He doesn't pick a lane, which I think is it. He's like, I'll make the worse than you've ever seen. Someone said this years ago, and I'm leaning towards it being true, that it's easier for comedy guys to switch to drama than it is the reverse.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Definitely. Yeah. What do you think that is? Is it because life is comedy? Wow. And then it's dramatic. I think also because, like, a lot of comedy guys or girls, if you don't mind me saying so. I don't mind at all.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I think because they're real people. also like they're not always these hyper fucking comedic or like Rob Woonz is an example of that like he had it was like he had deep depression is in like entire life yeah you know so I think that's why they're able to draw on that it was deep depression behind the ho ho that's right oh yeah hello dearie I can't do Mrs. Doubtfire you don't have to it's my one week point now I can't do a Mrs. Doubtfire impression hello dearie that's good yeah that's good and they couldn't even masquerade myself as Mrs. Doubtfire.
Starting point is 00:59:46 If there was a situation in which you needed a Mrs. Doubtfire situation, I couldn't help you. And I'm sorry. That's all right. Let's just hope it doesn't happen. Let's pray.
Starting point is 00:59:57 But it happens most weeks. I know. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Most weeks, Pierce Brosnan's in there. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Porn and in. Trying to get my kids. Yeah. Try to adopt them. Yeah. Get out of here, Pierce, Brosnan. What about Eddie Murphy?
Starting point is 01:00:12 Because he's done dramatic stuff. But I don't know. Did he just kind of go, no, that's... I think it was maybe just what was available. Yeah? Yeah. Because he's... You're thinking about Dolomite is my name.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yeah, but he'd do like a dream girl's and, you know? I think he's very talented, but he hasn't... I think there's more to him than what we've seen. I think he could probably do greater stuff. Well, it's too late. Steve Corral, etc. Yeah. Michael Keaton's interesting.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Agreed. Because he started as a stand-up. Yes. And then he did some funny movies, Mr. Mom. Yeah. And then he was like, I'm Batman. Yeah. A fucking Batman.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And Batman, he remains. Yeah. You even did a Batman movie that nobody saw. Correct. That girl. Someone leaked that, by the way. I thought he meant the Flash, but he also did Batgirl. You're right.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I'm forgetting in the Flash, he wasn't Batman. He was spaghetti Batman. He was spaghetti Batman, yeah. And after he made his Batman money, he just kind of did stuff that interested him. Yeah. And he showed up into a comedy every now. And he did like the other guys. It's Brian Cranston.
Starting point is 01:01:14 James, they call that the F. They call the FU money, and it's always interesting when you see someone who has done a really successful sitcom or a bunch of big blockbuster movies, once they've got the money that they don't need to work anymore. They make B-Movie. They make B-Movie, exactly. What do you do after that? It's not always great, but it's always interesting.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Absolutely. They can make some choices. Yeah, the real adventures of old Christine, but then also V. Then also V. But like Brian Cranston, where it's like, he did Malcolm in the middle, and it's like, then he could take a chance on being breaking bad. That's an incredible turn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And now he's Malcolm in the middle again. Malcolm in the middle again. Literally filming a new series like at the moment. I mean, the guy who played Dewey on Malcolm in the middle, just retired. Yeah. You didn't have to do anything.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Good call. I made $20 million and I don't want to do this anymore. That's wonderful. I saw a really interesting interview with Jamie Lee Curtis from 1994, I think it was. I don't know if you saw this, but it's right around... Did I see it from 1994? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:13 It's right around true life. She's got the True Lies hair cut. And she's talking about how, like, she doesn't think she's going to, she's going to leave acting. This is her then. And like, she's not talented enough where, as she gets older, people will want to see her and she'll just disappear. And I think that's so interesting because she won an Oscar.
Starting point is 01:02:30 She has done the opposite of that. And yeah, she has gotten older. But then you see it, she won an Oscar. She turns up in the bear. She's turning in these incredible performances. Some people hate, just to be clear. Who? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I'll see people in the internet go, but I think maybe they're just sick of Jamie Lee Curtis. Maybe they are. Maybe they're talking about borderlands. Oh, yeah, that was bad. I was Keaton. Yeah. Because we started on Keaton. Yeah, just what a breadth of...
Starting point is 01:02:55 Has he done anything broadly comedic recently? I mean, the other guys would be the closest thing. Yeah, but that was a while ago. They're through Bird Man. No, that's... Yeah. It's not very funny, I would say. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:07 The founder? Great movie. That's a fucking good movie. I'm always getting served shorts of the founder, and I'm always watching them. I can't stop myself. I'm like, I should just watch this movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:16 What am I doing? I'm always being served quarter founders. And I'm like, I think of the founder. They're getting smaller, aren't they? Quarterpounders. No, we're getting bigger. From a quarter pounders. That's funny quarter pounds, mate, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Yeah. I'm always thinking of filet of fish because of the story of the filet of fish. And what is the story? We've definitely talked about this. I don't know if we have. We've definitely talked about this. Does this fit into this? Is this a pivoting situation?
Starting point is 01:03:39 No. It's not. We put this as bonus content. Yeah, yeah. I think we've talked about it on a bonus. but the fillet of fish exists because he was the founder he's yeah he played ray crock yeah the guy who stole franchising rights from the actual macdonald brothers yeah the fill a fish exists because a guy took all his life savings and he started a uh McDonald's franchise
Starting point is 01:04:02 but he did it in like a very catholic era oh yeah very catholic area and so nobody ate meat on Fridays yeah and he was like it's not even worth being open on Fridays yeah but you can't just do that as a franchise owner. You have to do what the boss says. So he came up with the idea of the filet of fish. He went to Ray Crock and Ray Crock was like, this is awful. I hate the idea of this.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I don't want the McDonald's restaurant smelling like fish. It's gross. And he kept saying no to this. But then one day, this guy went to Ray Crock and said, what about now? What about that filet fish? And Ray Crock was in a betting mood and he's like, how about this?
Starting point is 01:04:36 I've come up with a great idea for my own burger. What you can do is you can sell your filet of fish in your restaurant. I'll sell my burger in my restaurant whichever sells the most will get put on the permanent menu at all the McDonald's and he might be like well he was so against this idea
Starting point is 01:04:53 this idea for a burger he had must be an incredible burger but it was called the Hula burger and it was the bun great start Oh is this the one that's just a piece of pineapple It's a piece of grilled pineapple and a slice of cheese and that's it
Starting point is 01:05:08 That's the worst burger in the world Right? It's crazy Like, even like now you might be like, oh, okay, I kind of get that. But in the 60s, you kidding me with this? That's a cheese and pineapple sandwich that you've made. Insanity. Which is not good. No sauce?
Starting point is 01:05:25 No, nothing. Fuck me. Yeah. That's criminal. But then, obviously, he put on the filet of fish and it sold gangbusters. Yeah. And then this thing sold like six in a day or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:35 And I think it's a great lesson in the idea that the guy who's the head of the company isn't there because he had great ideas. It's because he stole it. It's because he's a sneak. It's mostly why. You know, Philo fish you're only doing half a slice of cheese. I know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:48 What do they do with the other half? You save it for the night. I used to... Yeah, I know, but what if nobody orders another filial fish? You fridge it. You fridge the cheese. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah. Yeah. I used to work at McDonald's for people who don't know. Last year. Last year, that's right. They fired me for being too cool. And wore my hat backwards. And it was a thing.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Like, Good Friday was like, you barely sell any fillet fillet. Philadelphia Fish are in the year. And then that Friday, they're not appealing to me at all. I like them. Yeah? Maybe I'll try one tomorrow. You won't.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I'm busy. Yeah. Too busy to go to McDonald's. I want to get my job back. I'm going to go and beg and plead. I'll eat all the fillet fish as you want, please. I'll eat all the leftover ones. Because you're getting your job back at McDonald's from the 80s where they just pile
Starting point is 01:06:36 them up. That's right. They pile up all the burgers. They're still piling them up. They're just piled them up in a way you can't see. that I don't even worry about it. Anyway, Jamie Lee Curtis, I think that's really interesting. Here's one that's a different kind of pivot.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Megan Markle. Sure. Well, Megan Markle. Well, she pivoted from acting to being a royal to doing that podcast that they never released, all recorded. And getting a Netflix deal through a bit or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:59 No, good on it. Yeah, good on her, whatever, I guess. I mean, she was treated appallingly by both the press and the royal family. And just appalling stuff all around, quite frankly. That's right. We're on her side. Yeah. I guess.
Starting point is 01:07:10 If you had to pick a side. And we do We're team Megan DeMarkel Yeah that's right Or Megan as we'd call her in Australia Yeah How do you feel about Heath Ledger I love
Starting point is 01:07:20 RIP by the way Sorry if you're just hearing this now You'd be here for the first time But I don't know if people remember this You probably would if you're Australian But I know people would Because he was big in the US Anyway I'll just say
Starting point is 01:07:32 He started on a teen sitcom No he did raw Which was like Hercules Oh raw R O A Yeah it was like a It wasn't Young Hercules, but it was like that. It was like shot in New Zealand or whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:44 There was a show he did called Sweat. And it was like about athletes at a... Okay. I don't remember that at all. Like an Australian Institute of Sport thing. Okay. It was called something like that. Was it like Head Start?
Starting point is 01:07:54 It was something like that. Okay. Heath Ledger. Sweat. Yeah. Safe search on. Sweat. It was called Sweat.
Starting point is 01:08:01 It was in 1996. It was only one series. So this is young, this is peak young Heath Ledger. Okay. And he had an option in that to play a character I can't remember what the two were, but one was gay and one was straight. Heath Ledger was straight, as far as I'm aware. And he went, instead of being like, oh, I'll play the straight character because, you know, that's cool or whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:21 He went, no, this would be more interesting. That is cool. That is cool. That's cool because it's 996. Yeah. He went, no, I'm going to, I think it would be more interesting and challenging and more rewarding if I play a gay character. Okay. And so he chose that.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And I feel like that's how he approached his career where he took the least conventional. stealing rolls from gay acts. Exactly. He did it in Brokeback Mountain. Apparently he's doing it in heaven. Wow. That's what people are saying. Wow, wow.
Starting point is 01:08:47 And he's being rewarded for that in heaven. He's been rewarding it. Wow. Rewarded by it, yeah. Yeah. If I were God, and sometimes I think that I might be, I would send him to hell for that. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Okay. Would you keep the real gay people? Yes. Okay, that's good. Yeah. That's good. Unless they took some straight people rolls, in which case, they go down to hell. In these plays that I'm running in heaven.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah. I give people the option. When they choose the wrong one, I sent him to hell. I think that's good, actually. I think so, too. But if you look at, like, he did 10 things I hate about you, and he got offered just teen comedies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:20 And he just didn't. He chose not to. Like, he didn't really do a movie like that again. And then he just did more, I mean, he did like a Knight's Tale, which also was a great movie in itself. But, you know, that's what led him to, that's what I knew, like, when he got cast of the Joker, even before.
Starting point is 01:09:38 People were mad about that. Although I'm like, that's, he's great. The 10 things I had about you, guy. Yeah, which is what most people would have known him for, maybe a Knight's Tale, but like, and also two hands. I talk about him a movie all the time, but he's, he was fucking incredible. And, um, I don't know, I just, and then he... We joke about it.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Yeah. Because he's the Joker. That's right. But we, we, you know, he pledged with that. But, like, that is genuinely an incredible performance. Yeah. It's so good. It's terrifying.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Yeah. And it also, it's kind of ruined the Joker for everybody else. Right. for everybody, because then you have to do a wacky kind of, like, career-defining performance. Yeah, for sure, which is often too much. Yeah. This is the moment in it where Michael J. White is one of the gangses like, you clown, you think you're going to walk in here and take all the money.
Starting point is 01:10:22 He's like, yeah. Just the little bits. Yeah. Because the Joker also has to be funny, and he is funny. He is funny, that's right. I think Michael Jordan's career is interesting, driven by spite. Not Michael B. Jordan. No.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Michael B. Jordan is just been... Michael R. Jordan. Consistently good. Yeah. Everything that he's done. And interesting as well. Because obviously he pivoted out of basketball into baseball. Correct.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And also he was a good baseball player. Does this guy count? Yeah, because he did a space jam. Oh, I see. And then he went back to basketball. Right. And now he's just fueled by spite. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:58 And he continues to be. And I think that's fascinating. He just did a bunch of interesting stuff. That's un-in-lawable. And it counts because he did acting. That's true. That one. time. Never again? Not really. Okay. I think he's in Looney Tunes back in action, but it's like
Starting point is 01:11:13 stock footage from, um, um, here's two people that I think are interesting because they were a certain type of actor and then they built their own careers and production companies and brands. Nicole Kidman and Reese Withersburn. Well, a lot of people, a lot of actors, I think, yeah, a lot of actors do this stuff behind the scenes, I think, you know, they're creating opportunities for themselves and for other people, Reese Witherspoon. and is, you know, a few years ago, she was like, we've got to get more women in NFTs. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:11:43 And recently she was right. And recently she's been like, we're going to get more women into AI. And she's right. She's right. Yeah. It's not wrong. It's a real boys club. Those two terrible things.
Starting point is 01:11:54 But, you know, Nicole Kibnan was, for the longest time, was like Tom Cruise's wife, you know, even though she was always doing interesting thing. Everybody's got to take a turn. That's right. Right now it's on the arm's his turn. I think even Michael B. Jordan fits into this because he does a lot of his own stuff. Again, as mentioned, Margo Robbie, Lucky Chap and all of that.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Yeah, I find that that career on a career really interesting. I mean, I know Reese Witherspoon, she did that book club. And part of it was that she would also then have, if she talked about the book, she would have the rights to then make something out of it. Oh, very convenient. That's where you get like, did she like nine perfect strangers? And there's a bunch of other ones that she has done. And she was, you know, she started like legally blonde.
Starting point is 01:12:35 So people were like, oh, this is a dumb person. Right, yeah, of course, yeah. But it's like, no, she's, this is a movie. This is a movie. Yeah. And Osgood Perkins is in it. Did she have a piece of the legally blinded musical, do you think? I would say so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:48 All right. All right. Another one as well. Yeah. Um, Will Smith. I've heard of him. It's going on. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I don't know, man. I think that's kind of the rock trajectory. Yeah. Because he, you know, he was a huge box office draw for a long time. Huge sitcom star. Huge sitcom star. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And then he achieved that. And then he was like, I'm going to get an Oscar. He got that Oscar. Well, he slapped that guy and then he got an Oscar. He's like Chris Rock. Then he got his Oscar. Yeah. And now he's banned, but I mean, from the Oscars.
Starting point is 01:13:23 He's still doing stuff. I was going to say, who cares? It doesn't matter. You banned him. You should have banned him before he slapped a guy. Yeah. Should have banned him before he won his Oscar. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Now, I don't know anything about him personally. Because every interview I've ever seen with him, I'm like, I can't tell if this is real or not. Mm-hmm. Like, even his wife are interviewing each other and it just seems just really awkward and awful. I have no insight into that. I don't know. There's obviously rumors and whatever. But it's just...
Starting point is 01:13:51 Because he was a sex symbol. Yeah. But you never like... No. Mm-hmm. And then he released that song recently. It's like, I like girls. And I like this kind of girl and that kind of girl.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And to me, it's like, I don't know if you do like girls. Yeah. And I don't mean in the way that, like, I think you're gay. I have no idea. And I don't care. But, like, this is coming from a place of just sadness. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Which is a real shame. It is so talented. He is talented. And, you know. And he's funny. Like, if you look at things that he's done, like, he's done. And, you know, he's done. I think this is Hollywood trauma.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah. Some sort of. And probably personal and childhood. And I think it's probably, you know, he's been in the public eye for so. long. Yeah. I think this probably happens to a lot of people when you become the number one Hollywood guy.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Yeah. Is the, the pressure and the money and the scrutiny drives you insane. Yeah. And some people pull out of that and some people don't. Yeah. And it's, I think also because...
Starting point is 01:14:53 And they've named their kids after them, but reversed gender. How did they know that was going to happen? Do they have some sort of design a Hollywood fertility thing where they can do the sex of their babies? I think... Or is it just a coincidence? I don't, yeah, that. I don't know also, it's interesting because I don't, again, I don't know his kids,
Starting point is 01:15:10 but they seem more well adjusted than him somehow. Okay. I don't know that, obviously, but I think also he's never stepped away. He's always, he'll come back and he'll be like, I wrote a book and I thought about a thing, but it's like, dude, you've never left. Right. You've never taken a minute. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:27 And maybe he has, and I didn't notice. But he's just always popping up with some bullshit. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I think there's a bit of... Bradley Cooper is a bit like that. Uh-huh. With the, like,
Starting point is 01:15:41 he's trying to get an Oscar and embodying a role and, you know? Yeah. Less so, definitely. But, like, reading Lelita in a park and getting paparazzi photos and just like, what's this? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:54 What are we doing? I don't know. Yeah. Because on one level, getting an Oscar, like that was... Because it's, you know, it's, aside from the, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:03 the best Oscar, the number one cheer moment. Yeah. Which is voted on by the people. Sure. Most Oscars are voted on by the peers, and he wants the respect of his peers. But it's also like, there's so much politicking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:17 And so much of it seems random. Yeah. And like whenever you see interviews with anonymous Oscar voters, so many of them are like, no, I didn't watch it. Yeah. So like it shouldn't, in a way, it's the most meaningful thing. in this industry, but it also, to a degree, it seems ultimately meaningless and just the luck of
Starting point is 01:16:40 the draw in a lot of cases, you know? And if you look at, like, Lean out of Caprio, and there's obviously something wrong with him. Sure. At least we don't see... But he was the biggest guy for a long time. But at least we don't see him all the time. I mean, we see him at Jeff Bezos's fucking party or whatever, whatever he's doing. But, like, he's not constantly, like, around and being like, what do you think of this?
Starting point is 01:17:03 But I did a song, what do you think of this? Like, it's just, he's just... Well, maybe he's just not a very good singing. Yeah, probably. Maybe. He's just dating children and making interesting movies. No, no, no, no, no. His current girlfriend's like 26 or 27 or something.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Great. She broke the barrier. Did she? Yeah. Wow. Incredible. Anyway, Bradley Cooper was also Jarrell and rock a raccoon and I like that. That's so true.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Yeah. Mark Wahlberg is interesting. That's why I'm not always in a good way. Mm-hmm. But he, you know, he broke from music. And he did some, like, you know, some action kind of comedy stuff in the 90s. And then he did proper legit funny comedies and proper legit actor movies and dramatic. I mean, he and the rock are both in pain and gains, you know, some of their best performances, probably.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Probably, yeah. I don't know, man. I know you're a fan, but I don't know if I've anything to say about him. Other than I love his daily routine. He's pretty good. Get up at 3 a.m., go to bed at 6 p.m. Yep. Golf and prayers in between, baby.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Golf and prayers. Family time. Eight minutes. Eight minutes. Yeah, really good. Really good and real. Yeah. Here's a good one which I like.
Starting point is 01:18:14 And it's a comedic thing, but it's a pivot into directing Jordan Peel. Of course, yeah. Yeah. I mean, Jordan Peel and Zach Greger. Yeah. We didn't really talk about this. But do you think, because, you know, Jordan Peel really wanted to direct weapons, then Craig and Asad directed himself.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Yeah. Do you think Jordan Peel is annoyed that, the best horror movie this year potentially was also directed by a former sketch comedy guy who's a horror director now. Oh, he's bitter and mean. I think he's bitter and mean. I think they're friends. I think they're probably friends.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Also, like, Jordan Peel is, I mean, I don't think the one where there was mirrored people was as good. But like, nope and get out of fucking amazing movies. He's very good. And I think his next thing got pushed a year as well or something. Him? Yeah, no, him's not. Did he need a director?
Starting point is 01:18:59 I think he produced. I don't know what he's, I don't know what his new movie is. Yeah, yeah, I think it's all still under apps. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, if you look at, and I haven't seen it yet, but Chris Stockman is a YouTube reviewer. He's got a horror movie coming out later this year. That's true.
Starting point is 01:19:29 I remember when, and it's now got picked up by, like, neon. That's famous director. Yeah. He's taking over. Yeah, and I know you're good friends with him, but like he... No, I mean, you and me. Yeah, that's true. But he, like, self-funded it initially.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And then before it got picked up and I'm on the, not Patreon, whatever it is. Piss. You're on the piss. I'm on the tips. I'm on the piss all the time. I'm interested to see what that looked at by, because by the people who have seen, it's like, family, it's pretty good. So that's cool.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I don't know. I'm just going to put on my person on the internet hat. Seems like a sellout to me. You review movies, then you still review movies. What can't he just keep saying? movies are bad. What can't you just do that? Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:20:04 We'll keep saying movies about it. Yeah, we'll keep saying that. We'll pick up the bat. Yeah, that's right. I don't watch other movie reviewers on YouTube, so honestly, I don't know what he's doing, aside from that movie. John Krasinski, remember he was Jim from the office. I do remember that.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And then he was action. And then he was director. And he's director. He did Quiet Place. He did, or your friends are invisible, but they're real. Yeah. Didn't like it. But he did Quiet Place some of them.
Starting point is 01:20:29 It's true. Yeah. And he did happy news time in the box. What? Remember when COVID? Oh, yeah, he did. And he sold it. Which, again, well done.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Very, very, such a great, like, some people like him, some people think he's kind of disingenuous. Disingenuous. What a great, thank you. What a great move to come up with a concept of. Some things are good. Some things are good. Here's some happy news.
Starting point is 01:20:56 And didn't he sell it for like eight figures to another TV station? To like EdBC or whatever. Yeah, but like, no one cares about this. No. People only care about it because... There was that small window. But also because John Krasinski hosted it and he's had a decade of goodwill from the office.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Yeah. This isn't going to work. Yeah. You guys are so stupid for buying this. You are so profoundly dumb for buying this thing because you have to get a guy with... What are you going to get Steve Karell to do? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Maybe. They didn't. He did come on. Steve Karell did come on. Again, interesting, doing interesting stuff sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. God.
Starting point is 01:21:35 De Niro. Yes. Remember when, like, he was a serious man for the longest time? Mm-hmm. And then he did, like, analyze this, analyze that. Oh, yeah. His mob characters became more of a caricature. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Mm-hmm. And I don't know whether since then, really, he's done anything that I've been super, like... Murray Franklin. Interested in. Oh, yeah, he's Murray Franklin. Franklin was good. Yeah. But, like...
Starting point is 01:21:59 I think you should settle down. down, Joker. But what, do you know what I mean? Yeah. And he's obviously very good. I don't feel like this is a pivot at all. No, you don't think in pivoting into comedy for a time? Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Yeah. No, I kind of feel like, because his comedy characters are not that dissimilar from his serious characters. Oh, yeah, fair. Like, if you take the mask and you take whatever Jim Carrey's character was called from Eternal Sunshine of the Spots Mind, like that's, that's leagues apart. Yeah. Whereas like Robert De Niro.
Starting point is 01:22:30 It's like, well, he's a serious mobster guy. Yeah. Now he's a serious mobster guy in a silly universe. But also sometimes he's a Dick Tracy villain or whatever. Isn't that Pacino? Wasn't he also in it? Maybe. I might be just Pacino.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I thought he was one of them. He might be one of the guys. I don't know. He might be just one of the lads. Yeah, you might be wrong, actually. I might be wrong actually. He also, he's directed also. He, like, he directed a Bronx tale.
Starting point is 01:22:56 I don't know if you've seen that. It's quite good. I have seen a Bronx tale. Yeah, it's good. A Bronx tale. has that um that my my misremembering this doesn't the bronx tale have that thing where a guy's like he's how you test if a woman really likes you is you you go to the car door and you unlock the car door for her and you're oh okay and then when you walk around the car
Starting point is 01:23:17 if she unlocks your door for you like she's the one yeah is that is that in a bronx i think that might be yeah okay doesn't work anymore because it's poop oh yeah i just realized i've been doing i've been doing that for years yeah but literal years, mason, decades. Yeah. Fuck. There are no, that kind of shit also is like, there's no hard and fast rules on anything.
Starting point is 01:23:40 And, I don't know. Sorry, have I destroyed your worldview. No, no, I just think people have been like, there is a set of rules that means this person is this. And I just think everybody is different, but also the same. I think everybody's the same. Stallone. I see a couple get into a car and I just yell at,
Starting point is 01:24:00 dump her, dump her. Or him. Or him, whatever. Whoever wants to dump the other one first. Go for it. You're not in synchronicity with your door locks. Good point. Stallone, he started as like people like, this is the next De Niro, this is the next Pacino
Starting point is 01:24:19 from directing and starring in Rocky. And then he went, no, I want to be the most muscular biggest action star in the world. Correct. His pivot was completely different. different. And I think that's fascinating. And look, now he's in Tulsa King, where he's like, people are too woke these days. Then he's not wrong. Someone finally said it. I don't think he's, no, I've never seen it. I saw a clip of it. I saw a clip of Tulsa King a couple of days ago. And it's just him trying to get a driver's license or something. And he's all, he's just like,
Starting point is 01:24:49 a lot of paperwork. On the Tulsa King. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You put Tulsa King on that? That's right Anyways, you know But then you'll come back And he'll do like serious Rocky It's your for Tommy Ulcer King Because he got some ulcers in prison But you know
Starting point is 01:25:06 You do like a Rocky again And he's old Rocky Yeah Or old Rambo Or old Rambo Yeah Not as interesting Especially the last one
Starting point is 01:25:11 But all was all right But yeah He can do Dramatic performances But it's mostly in Rocky movies At this point Daniel Day Lewis He pivoted into making shoes
Starting point is 01:25:24 He did That's true. Now he's pivoted back into acting. Because his son is directing a movie. Oh, is that what it is? That's why he's in that movie. What's a movie called again? I watched a trailer.
Starting point is 01:25:34 It's called My Dad is Daniel Daylois. You better watch this. Deal with it. He was, there will be blood. He's great. Speaking of guys who come up on my YouTube shorts that I just watch. Oh, yeah. A lot of stuff from Phantom Thread.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Yeah. And then he's ordering breakfast. Just a thread. How dare you? Your behavior is very inappropriate towards me. Ronan Day Lewis This poster for It's called An Enemy
Starting point is 01:25:57 He looks like Bob Odenkirk He does That's a good one Bob Odenkirk Now he's Mr. Action Muscle Man But before that he was best call Saul That's so true isn't Yeah
Starting point is 01:26:06 But before that he was But before that he was He was He's doing it at all He's doing it at all He's doing it at all Yeah Kenjong
Starting point is 01:26:14 Sure Real doctor Real doctor Comedy Real friends Real friends Sometimes child actors Don't pivot into
Starting point is 01:26:21 Just hardship And they do interesting things. Ron Howard well, I don't think he was a child when he started on Happy Days, but before that he was a child actor, wasn't he? Yes, he was in, he's the guy, he was on... Little House on the Prairie.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Jason Bateman was, speaking, that's one as well. Howdy-Doodie? He was, howdy-d-he, he was Mr. Squiggle. I want to look it up. We're going to know. James, we're going to know. Andy Griffith's show. There you go.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Now it directs, obviously. And he's occasionally acts. Did you watch the studio, the episode he was in for that? Yes, I did where he's a... That was good. There's a moment where he throws his hat at Seth Rogen and it's like he's hurling a brick. Like it's a real, it's just a... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:05 I mean, speaking of Seth Rogen. Yeah. And... Green Hornet. Evan Goldberg. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Who pivoted from...
Starting point is 01:27:13 They saw which way the wind was blowing. They pivoted from... Dave Franco. Yeah. They pivoted away from Dave Franco, sorry. Yeah. He didn't put... Dave Franco's in the studio.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Yeah, he is. They pivoted from... you know, knocked up 40-year-old Virgin style improv comedy to, you know, superhero stuff. Yeah, like drama potentially. Movies about Korea. Yeah. The MASH reboot. Seth Rogen also does, he's got a pottery store or something.
Starting point is 01:27:40 No, wait. I think he just has a pot store. He does have a pot store, but I think he also has a, I think he sells like, like. Bongs? Yeah, bongs. Yeah, but pots. But, yeah, like little ashtrays and things. Great.
Starting point is 01:27:50 I saw an architectural digest or something where, He's like coming to my store. I won't. We've got pot and pottery. Yeah. He's so prolific. But also he doesn't have kids. That's why.
Starting point is 01:28:00 I'd be that prolific. No, you wouldn't be smoking bongs. No, I wouldn't. You'd be smoking more bongs than you normally do. I don't smoke any bongs. I'm a zero bong smoking guy. Well, that's going to have to... I just drink the water.
Starting point is 01:28:11 That's going to have to change if you get your job back in McDonald's. You're going to start smoking bongs. The Colkins. Yeah. Doing interesting stuff. Agreed. Got that FU money. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I mean, he, because also McCauley Cole could, like, divorce his parents when he was, like, 14. It's true, yeah. Jodie Foster, child actor. Now, I mean, she still acts occasionally, but she's a director. She's done, like, amazing directing work. This one's more of a recent resurgence. South Rogen's company is called Houseplant and is a cannabis home goods brand. Very good.
Starting point is 01:28:45 And look how nice it is. Do they let you drink the bong water? Yeah, they insist you drink the bong water. Look at all this nice. Stuff's nice. Oh, look at that. Look at that branding. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:56 It's nice. Oh my God, he's got a pinned ball machine or whatever. Anyway, that's good stuff. I could do that if I didn't have kids. But I'm putting on my love and energy into them instead. Oh, wow. Seth Rogen. What a waste.
Starting point is 01:29:07 I've met him. Jennifer Coolidge. What do you mean? This is good. That's not, that doesn't count. What do you mean? You're just listing actors you like now. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Ronald Reagan. Do you mean because she was in the American Pie movies and then she was in, The White Lotus. Yeah. Okay, great. It's just funny and whatever. I think one role doesn't count as a full pivot.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Okay, fair enough. What about this, Ronald Reagan? Yeah. Actor became the president. Yeah. What about Donald Trump? Who in the world? Similar trajectory.
Starting point is 01:29:38 It's very similar trajectories. Yeah. Different. We were almost going to, we were almost in recovery from Ronald Reagan and then Trump showed up. I wouldn't say. And this happened. Yeah, and this happened. Thanks a lot, RFK Jr.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Yeah. Is that what you're doing? Is that what this voice is? Yeah, it's my RFK, you're in your impression. Lady Gaga, good actor. I agree, yeah. Yeah, and music. Yep.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Obviously. Yeah. We're in a meat dress also, obviously. Started out, you know, playing in like a Walmart. Yeah. Or like in shopping malls and stuff. That's right. Now look at her.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Yeah. And my last one, there's so many more, George Lucas. But I think what's interesting is he started this indie filmmaker, accidentally made the biggest friend. franchise of all time and kind of got stuck in it, regardless of him selling it. Because I think, and maybe we've talked about this, but what he was doing was not a stab, like it wasn't a, it wasn't the done thing. No.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Like Star Wars is now absolutely the done thing. Yeah. It's a, but he went from American graffiti to this thing what's like, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a two decades out of date throwback. Yeah. To the 1950s movie series. sci-fi movie serial which was the thing people weren't doing in a way it was sort of avant-garde yeah it was and it was a metaphor for vietnam it was a whole thing he's like well this will be
Starting point is 01:31:03 one and done yeah and then it wasn't it was forever it was a forever war a forever star war and even in him selling it because he was like and i can i want to go back to that food court yes he wanted he wanted he wanted to make him like small indie projects but he hasn't he maybe he has and he's just maybe he's vaulting like prince yeah but I don't I don't know if he is but he's kind of more of a philanthropist
Starting point is 01:31:29 now and he like preserves I guess like he's looking you know he's got a eye on he's a billion he's the only good billionaire maybe that's true because also he was a billionaire by accident but obviously he's very business savvy as well yeah did you know Gottier
Starting point is 01:31:43 you know the musician yeah you went to school with him or whatever he was in the year above me in high school yeah he's got a like a non-profit foundation where he, like... Doesn't he try and reverse all the bad things that you do? Well, he's trying, but good luck.
Starting point is 01:31:59 It's called Forgotten Futures, and it's like... He, like, archives and repairs and restores, like... Oh, that's right. Did you tell me this? Yeah, like experimental musical instruments from back in the day. So, like, the theramen, but stuff that never achieved the incredible success of the theremin. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Like, you know. It's interesting, because whenever somebody's ever, like, like, that guy's a one-hit wonder. It's like he's not. Yeah. He also has like that whole album and his other works. Like he's a very talented musician. He just doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:32:31 He's just stayed out of the spotlight. Yeah. He's in a, I mean, he's in a, he's in a band with a couple of friends called The Basics, which is like, like an old school kind of rock and roll outfit.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Yeah. You'll see him perform often in Melbourne from time to time. Yeah. You know, you'll pop up. Track that down. Have you guys, have you considered this artist called Cox yet? You ever heard of him?
Starting point is 01:32:49 I've considered it. I know you went to Japan with him. I did. You considered that? I have considered that and it's fun nice guy tall right
Starting point is 01:32:57 tallish yeah tallish not crazy tall yeah I heard he's crazy tall yeah or maybe he's crazy and tall because he's not doing what he should be doing
Starting point is 01:33:04 when we're in high school when we're in high school people would always be there was always because he was like he's really talented at everything but people are always like
Starting point is 01:33:13 they say he's got a photographic memory you know it's just like yeah you know odd room oh he had like that kind of air about him that aura about him yeah Yeah. In a, like, in, what do they call it in America?
Starting point is 01:33:24 Because he is a genius, right? I don't know. We're talking about a man who really exists. But like, what do you call? In America, they call it the valedictorian, the person that gets the highest. The tallest guy in the school. Yeah, yeah. And then the guy's, the person who gets like the best.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Yeah, we call it ducks. Yeah, we call it the ducks. He wasn't the ducks of his year level. I feel he threw it. That is, that is my, that is my, it's my, that he threw it so somebody else could have it. Because he doesn't meet it, does he? No, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:33:56 He knew we'd be got here. Which is not his real name. No, it's Walter. Yeah, that's really interesting. It's not interesting. No, it is interesting. It's an insane idea. Let's ask him if we see him.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Okay. Yeah. We won't. No, well, maybe. I probably wouldn't recognize him at all, honestly. Yeah. Anyways, that's everyone who's ever pivoted. He'd recognize me because he's got a photographic memory.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, every other actor has stated there laid basically, except for the one dimension. That's right. Everybody else decided on a thing. Yep. They're doing it.
Starting point is 01:34:34 They're stuck to it. Which, you know, it's fine. Yeah. They're in a rut, aren't we all? Not us. Not us, though. Not us. We're always doing fresh new segments.
Starting point is 01:34:42 That's right. Like this fresh new segment. What is it? It's what we're reading. What? What? What? What?
Starting point is 01:34:46 What? What? Yeah. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading to go? Great segment. It is a great segment. Cool guys, great segment.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Cool guys, great segment. Yeah. Should we say that before and after every segment we do? I think it's... Cool guys, great segment. Or we get colleagues to edit it when we don't have to say it every time. He can remember for us because he has Gortier's memory. That's true, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:35:13 Yeah. Mason? Yes. I know you're always running about. Yes, that's true. And you're always doing a live show potentially. I? Yeah, like you're in a...
Starting point is 01:35:21 you're doing a podcast. Oh, yeah. Aren't you or something? The cheerful, earful podcast festival. We're both doing one. We're not doing a show, but we will be appearing on various shows. Because we don't want the money. We don't want,
Starting point is 01:35:30 we're appearing on other people's shows. That's right. Which are you appearing on plumbing the death star. Yeah, must be nice. Which I believe is on October the 3rd. Dude, you don't need to tell me twice. No, you're appearing on thumb cramps. I am.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Which I believe is October the third. You don't need to tell me twice. So we might cross paths. We'll cross bars. They also said I could just get on thumb scraps if I want it. What? Yeah, there's over too many people on there. could. No. So you're saying no. I'm going to say no. Wow. Okay. Yeah. And if I try, what'll you do?
Starting point is 01:35:58 I don't know. I'll probably leave. All right. Guess I'm on two shows then. Yeah. And you're on zero shows. That's right. Good. What a waste of a trip for you. Yeah. So it's going to be on my thumb cramps show, which is on October 3rd. So it's hosted by Joel and Jackson. Correct. And I've been, I've done it before a few times. I've one in a few weeks ago. But it's going to be me and it's also going to be Joel Zammett. is going to be Ruby Innes. And maybe Nick Mason if he comes and ruins everything for everybody. Maybe I'll show up. There won't be another microphone. So I'll just shout.
Starting point is 01:36:29 My weird shouty voice. Yeah, cool, man. Maybe Mrs. Doubtfire will show up. Yeah. Hello, dearies. God, I hope it's back. The voice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:37 I hope it's worse. Oh, good. Also, you're able to, they'll stream. Yeah, if you can't make it. Obviously, you can purchase tickets if you Google, cheerful. Yeah. But if you can't make it physically, you can buy a stream.
Starting point is 01:36:51 make it mentally. Yeah. And that's up for a while, I think, after it's been released. It should be. And also, Oasis are going to be there. The band Oasis. Liam and Noel Gallagher. That's correct.
Starting point is 01:37:05 And the remainder of their band. Yeah, whoever else the other ones are. Yeah, yeah. And that's true. They're going to be on the cheerful little podcast. I think they're going to be on every podcast, yeah. They're going to a guest on there. Yes, right.
Starting point is 01:37:15 And there's enough microphones for Liam and Noel Gallagher and the remainder of the band, but not for your old pal, Nick Mason. He's never played a video game in his life. I'm on your side. It doesn't seem like you aren't. It's not fair. It seems like you're on the side of Neil and Noel and Liam Gallagher. And Neil Gallagher, and you guy have made up.
Starting point is 01:37:33 I am actually. Wow. Yeah, so that's good. Anyway, they'll be linked below if you do want to, we'll probably remind you later. Yeah, for sure. I know a lot of the seats are nearly sold out if they haven't already, but more so online if you want. Yeah, well, we'll just push you way in. Yeah, push it away in.
Starting point is 01:37:48 It's at Stupid Old Studios. You know where it is. man. Humdinger Studios. That's right. Just come in. Shove you way in. Mason, what else are you reading?
Starting point is 01:37:54 Because I got some stuff in my lap. There is a new Batman number one. I don't know if you read the new Batman number one. Written by Matt Fraction. Yeah, is it good. And illustrated by Jorge Jimenez. I was going to wait a bit. Well, the first episode, first issue is good.
Starting point is 01:38:06 It's going to be, it's going to be, as far as I know, it's going to be largely, it's not going to be huge story arcs. It's going to be small, self-contained stories. Okay. Which is nice. There's a Batman series that is, um, it's been running. for a while Batman Dark Patterns
Starting point is 01:38:22 which is similar it's like three and four issue arcs which has been very good and it's Batman as detective it's like you know
Starting point is 01:38:30 You have his detective vision? No No It's sort of largely It's like It's not It's sort of It's not non-canonical
Starting point is 01:38:38 But it's like set in a Just in a modern Yeah it's just a modern time Ish kind of thing And those have been really good This is good as well It's the modern day He's got a new look
Starting point is 01:38:47 I don't know if you've seen it He's got a blue suit He's got a blue suit He's got a blue, he's got the blue and gray suit. A blute. He's bluer and gray than he's ever been. I'm not 100% sold on it. I think the logo is a little to nightwing.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Yeah, okay, because of the blueness of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, um... Do you know the working title, whatever? Yeah. And, um... It's fun. It is certainly, like, when you read a single issue like this one at a time, it is quite brisk.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Yeah. It's a brisk. But in this one, uh, Waylon Jennings. Not Waylon Jennings. Is Killer Cross? That's a country, there's a country singer. Okay. Valen Jennings.
Starting point is 01:39:17 His name is... Waylon Gaines. No, it's Whelan something. He's not tracking down Whelan Jennings. Okay. I know that, I know that for a fact. It is Whelan Jones. Whelan Jones, thank you.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Yeah. Okay. Is he tracking down Whelan Jones? He's tracking down Whelan Jennings and the remaining members of Super Group, the Highwayman, which includes Chris Christopherson and maybe Johnny Cash. RIP. But anyway, it's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:39:41 It's a great-looking book. He does have his detective vision in this. Does it help him a lot? A little bit? So you're like, God, I don't know what's going on. Oh, and also, a few... How am I going to follow these bloodstones? A few more additions to the Batman canon or the current continuity.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Jim Gordon's been busted down to patrolman. What? The new commissioner is Vandal Savage. What? Immortal World Contravenants. Do people know that he is? No, they think he's cool. But they're like, this is Vandal Savage?
Starting point is 01:40:09 Does anyone like, this is Vandal Savage? I don't think the world at large knows Vandal Savage has tried to destroy the world a bunch of times. Vandal Savage. And Batman, in the, in the past... passenger seat of his car, Batman has the AI version of Alfred. Oh yeah, because he's red or whatever. Which is weird. It's weird. They haven't brought him back yet. They will. They've done at least
Starting point is 01:40:26 one full continuity reboot and he's still dead. Which is crazy. Because they brought him back back in the day. Do you remember a million years ago? This is in like the 50s or something. I don't remember. He died. And then a new villain showed up. And it's like, this villain seems to know an awful lot about Batman. Yeah. And he keeps bringing him breakfast. That's right.
Starting point is 01:40:44 It's the breakfast giver. He's always robbing banks and bringing Batman. breakfast. But it turned out to be Alfred, who lost his memory or whatever. Did he get shot or something in this version? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:57 The Joker hit him with it, whatever. The current one? Yeah. No, Wayne killed him. I broke, turn his head around. Yeah, Tony's head all the way around. That's right, I forgot that. But also, and it's also Tim Drake, Robin.
Starting point is 01:41:08 So I'm a big fan of that. You like Tim Drake? Also, newish costume. Hmm. Okay. But also, Peacemaker. Okay. Do you want to talk about Peacemaker?
Starting point is 01:41:16 We can talk about Peacemaker. I mean, I'd rather talk about it at the end of the series. But if you want to talk about all the Nazi stuff, which I know you do. I do. Yeah. No, we should talk about. What do you want to talk about specifically? Uh, theories?
Starting point is 01:41:27 Yeah. Because I saw a really interesting theory on Reddit, which is a great sentence to start. Great. It's really good. Um, but obviously, you know, watching this new season of peacemaker, the, the parallel universe, we've all noticed something is odd about it. Yeah. Thus far, we've not seen any non-white people. Everyone is very nice.
Starting point is 01:41:46 That's good. We've not seen any non-white people. Yeah. So clearly, you know, this might be a Confederate States of America thing. Yeah. It might be an Earth-X kind of situation. Maybe it's just a coincidence. It might just be a coincidence.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Maybe all the non-white people are having lunch. That's right. But, you know, the... What it probably is, would you say? I think it's more recent than those two. I don't think it's a Nazis one World War II thing. I think it's maybe more, like, the 70s. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Something's happened. But... Do you think because the Nazi one World War II thing is like, we've seen this? I think it's been... It's a little play-out kind of thing. Yeah. So the theory I saw on Reddit, and I think it dovetails quite nicely with this situation,
Starting point is 01:42:25 is that it is, it's some sort of racist and or white supremacist universe, but it's also a dumb guy universe. Yes. Because everybody in this other universe seems to be kind of stupid and not particularly capable. Yeah. Like, there's that guy with the bomb who blows himself up accidentally.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Yes. Peacemaker's brother is supposed to be one of the best superheroes in the world, but he just charges in with no strategy, no concern for anybody and nobody seems to care. They're like, yes, nice. You did it. There's a moment where the alternate universe,
Starting point is 01:42:57 Harcourt, seems to be quite concerned that peacemaker, who she thinks is her peacemaker, is going into battle without his equipment because she knows, this is the supposition, she knows that her peacemaker doesn't have any skills. He's entirely relying on the technology.
Starting point is 01:43:16 And her also, Also, she's, Rick, spoiler, I guess also, Rick Flag returns in that universe. And he's supposed to be an army guy. Yeah. But he's like a bumbling coward kind of situation. Also, because Peacemaker, again, this is spoilers for the first episode, the prime version of Peacemaker kills his doppelganger. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:37 And in theory, you're like, this seems to be like a fairly evenly matched battle. Yeah. But our peacemaker is drunk and stoned. and has no stuff. He's in his underpants and he doesn't want to fight whereas this guy has like the helmet and the jetpack and the suit and a gun
Starting point is 01:43:54 and he wants to kill him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but this peacemaker defeats him. Yeah. So you remember in Logan? Yeah, Logan. Yeah, no, Hogan. Yeah. Nailed it.
Starting point is 01:44:06 The government wants to create the pathogen that'll kill all the mutants. Yeah. And they all accidentally, and it starts killing everybody. Yeah. I think it's a similar situation, potentially. This is my, this is my, maybe this isn't true.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Maybe there's no underlying reason. Maybe James Gunn is just like, yeah, in a white supremacist universe, they don't value education. Yeah. So they're all just kind of dumb. Maybe it's a deportation thing. Yeah, yeah. But I, if this is true, my speculation is whatever caused the disappearance of all the non-white people, it also one shot of the brains of everybody who's left.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Okay. So everybody's gone stupid. Yeah, okay. All right, okay, you might be right. Yeah, well, I mean, also, like, Amelia Hartcourt is also, the peacemaker, she was with clearly cheated on her a bunch of times. Right. And she's just like, yeah, well, you know, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:44:59 Like, she's just, like, the real version wouldn't be, wouldn't be like that. Also, I'm curious, let's see, because some James Gunn stuff can be quite dark. Yeah. And some of it is quite uplifting. Yeah. And you kind of want to know what direction he's going in. do you think all the non-white people are dead? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Because, well, I mean, maybe. I mean, that's the simplest idea is they all were killed somehow. But there's also, like, you never see a full American flag. They mentioned a sitcom, I can't remember which one, which had an all-black cast. What's happening? Yeah. And they're like... Jimmy Walker, Dynamite.
Starting point is 01:45:34 Yeah. And they're like, we don't know that. So whatever happened, I think happened in like the 70s. Yeah. I think what happened is probably peacemaker's dad. did some, he used these dimensional technology to remove everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:51 And he, I, also potential, see, the one floor in this theory, because when the first episode came out, I said, if this is a racist white supremacist universe, isn't it odd that peacemaker had a conversation with his dad and his brother? Yeah. Or, you know, the entire evening, and they never said anything racist.
Starting point is 01:46:09 What if this was so effective? They don't even remember non-white people exist. So it's an ultimate. So they can't be racist because they don't know. So someone's created this reality. Maybe. Maybe even that. Or they're in the phantom zone.
Starting point is 01:46:22 It's also interesting that it's of the two universes that are connected. Yeah. Like the other universe that's peacemaker just happens to be in his racist dad's cupboard. Yeah. Like that surely wouldn't be a coincidence, right? There's also, I think some people have posited theories that his dad didn't create any of this. He just took it from somebody else. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:43 I don't think he stole it from... Yeah, probably. Because if Lex Luthor can't make a stable one of these, what's this guy's deal? Yeah, we made all the helmets, I guess. He did make all the helmets. Also, I think maybe he got stupid. He did the reality wipes thing.
Starting point is 01:46:54 He created all the tech, then he did this, maybe some sort of reality wipes thing, and then he became stupid. Yeah. There's also the theory that the reason that this peacemaker, the one in the racist dimension or whatever, isn't capable is because he didn't grow up like fighting in the dirt. Like, he's not a scrappy fighter.
Starting point is 01:47:10 He's always relied on his tech. Yeah. Whereas the prime peacemaker has always been a, in the muck. Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah. You know, guy, yeah. But because my feeling is, if peacemaker has to make a choice here, do I live in the world where everybody thinks I'm a loser, or do I live in a world where all the non-white people were murdered?
Starting point is 01:47:30 Yeah. That's not a choice. No. So I think maybe they're not dead. Yeah, okay. Like, they all got, like, it wouldn't shock me if the reveal in this is they all got phantomsoned and you can bring them back. kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:47:43 But again, maybe it's just a cruel and awful universe. They got blipped. Maybe Thanos did it. Maybe Thanos did it. Well, it's interesting because when you dive deep in one of these universes, everything is a, it's a reaction to everything else. Yeah. Like maybe some of the stuff in, you know, Superman or in this
Starting point is 01:48:02 is a pointed commentary about previous stuff. Or maybe it's just, well, it's a parallel universe stuff because every comic book universe has parallel dimension things. Yeah. Who knows, man. Do you think he's going to shut the whole thing down, just destroy the universe? Maybe. Good.
Starting point is 01:48:16 He might. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. It's not outside the realm of possibility, is it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we saw that in Superman. They collapsed like a little pocket dimension or whatever.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Yeah. Well, Mason, it's Father's Day. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. And my kids got me a bunch of stuff, but two of the things they got. One of them, my daughter got me this. It's my father's arms and it's a lovely picture book about animals.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Interesting. Does anybody add, like, heat vision or animals? I got one that's that, but I'll say, this is a beautiful book. That's nice. If people want to, like, have a kid that I want to read it with, and it's about different, it's, like, different creatures and their fathers and, like, hanging out. When you say creatures, you mean like zombies? No, like, literal, like, these are two mice.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Okay. And it's a father and father and a daughter of my mouse or whatever. Are any of them the thing? This one's a koala. No, this one's a koala. This one's the koala. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:04 And this one's, like, it's up to a sad and, you know, I give my dad a hug or whatever. Okay. None of them have laser vision. Right. Yeah. Is any of them a white supremacist's Supervillain and like a flying suit of armor? Yeah, this one.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Yeah, that's, wow. That's actually too much. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I think that's why she picked it. But yeah, it's beautiful. It's by Tony Dialia and Mimi Pernow. And I've also bought something that you would like. Thank God.
Starting point is 01:49:27 My son, I went to the bookstore. Claire took them and they got this as well, which is Superman Year 1. Oh, yeah, nice. So this is the Frank Miller, John Rameda Jr. It's like, it's his version of Batman year one, but it's Superman. It came out a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:49:40 It's also got a bunch of other names on it, which also. I've never read this. I've never read it also. And I'm really interested to, when he got it, I'm like, he doesn't know anything about Frank Miller. Right. But I was like, well, actually, I've never read this and I want to know what this is like. Yeah, okay. So I'm very interested.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Give it a quick, you know, you're not, you know. Yeah, I'll not flick through it, yeah. Okay. Have a look, Mason, if you are on. But it's also shaped oddly. It's like square. It's a hard format, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Yeah, okay. So, yeah, I'm going to flick that. It's like a, yeah, it's a new origin story of Superman. It's, I, is it, I don't know if it is, but is it, I feel like it's not the Superman from Batman Year 1 either. Ah, whoof. Tough, impossible to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Impossible to say at this moment. Superman from, because Batman year one as in Batman the Dark Night returns, I mean. That's the same Batman. Yeah. Well, they're not the same apparently. There you go. Okay. Well, that's great.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Yeah. Is this good? It's good. I feel like I should Google it, but I'm like, you know, I'll just read it. No, I just read it. Let me know. I'm very excited to learn. Next week, let us know what you think of it.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Nah, won't. Okay, fine. Mason, do you got another segment of the show? Check your damn secrets then. And it's cool and we're cool, or whatever we say? What's the thing is that? Cool segment because we're cool? Two cool dudes?
Starting point is 01:50:53 Two cool dudes. Doing cool drools. That's what we said, I think. All right, man. Yeah. But anyway, the next time gets letters. I'm listening. The classic one was, I'm hearing us for the first time.
Starting point is 01:51:04 No, nice. He's doing bad stuff. Yeah. But he might be dying, which is also bad. There's a bunch of stuff waiting in the wings when he goes. Anyway, this is the letters segment where people email in with letters. Now, if you do want to reach the show, hashtag, no, forget that, don't worry about that. But weekly planetpot at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:51:26 That's right. Or there's a planet broadcasting great mates group that happens every week in the Facebook group. Last week, you put out a call to action. For Gen Z people. Yeah. Because of course. And this also became a YouTube video. Disney.
Starting point is 01:51:39 they're in panic mode they're like we thought we purchased all the boy media for boys to come back to cinemas we bought a Star Wars we bought a Marvel but the boys we want to hold on to these boys until they become men the Gen Z boys are not coming to the cinema
Starting point is 01:51:54 what can we do maybe a movie about treasure hunts yeah good that's good yeah and so we said what are Gen Z men and boys actually interested in besides vaping yeah and you said something interesting which was Gen Z voices did I say that You did say that last, and I'm last week, and I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. But what does everyone else say?
Starting point is 01:52:12 Oh, as in, as in, yeah, Gen Zee Filmmakers, so on and so forth. Well, here's a few. But that's just going to be vertical videos in the cinema, isn't it? That's exactly true. Okay, there's an interesting theme that came up. Yeah? That emerged. So, here we go.
Starting point is 01:52:29 This is from Sam. Goodoy, boys. Gatow, Sam. As a certified Gen Z, I was pondering your question. I think I watched too many movies to personally be a representative voice on the topic. But when thinking about the last year, there are really only two movies I've heard discussed in the wild by my peers, Sinners and Superman.
Starting point is 01:52:46 I don't really know what to make of this since Sinners was a wonderfully original story and Superman was pure franchise sugar. I did enjoy it, however it seems like both of these films were made with the singular vision of the director in mind. Maybe the verdict for the ghouls at Disney is A, make your movies fun, and B, stop making them by committee. Love the pod from Sam.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Yep. That makes sense Yeah But I think yeah We did I think that's something We also talked on So it spoke of on
Starting point is 01:53:13 Which is like Singular Vision Something that's clearly not just slop Yeah You know Made by a committee And I think it can also be both Because I think Superman
Starting point is 01:53:22 You could look at that And go Well this is a thing That's supposed to bring in Everybody And it's clearly a mandate For Morto Brothers But
Starting point is 01:53:28 But It's made by somebody Who actually likes The stuff The stuff they're doing Yeah Yeah He's not a
Starting point is 01:53:34 He's not a hired He's not a hired gun Yeah Although he was high It was high By himself, James Gunn. That's right. But also, like, and coming with that, there's also people who don't like that.
Starting point is 01:53:44 They're like this sucks or whatever. I know I liked it. Yeah, yeah. I'm like that. Interesting. What else, Mason? Is that it? I've got more emails, but do you want to do it?
Starting point is 01:53:50 I could just do all of these. Yeah, you can do all these. I'll do more, yeah. This is from Daniel. Hey, boys. Hey, Dan. For a bit of context, I'm a 27-year-old guy from Sydney. I don't vape.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Gaming is a hobby, maybe three hours a week. I mostly play story-based things. Go it with mates once a week. I don't have TikTok, and I'm not a Nazi racist or misogynist, so Tate isn't on my radar. Then what are we doing here? Yeah, I know, right? How are you representative Gen Z then? Last five movies I saw in theatres were Weapons, Superman, Sinners, June 2 and Challenges.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Yep. All watch with my Gen Z mates and or, my wife. And or your wife. I just go to watch good movies. Something is okay but not great. The theatre experience won't make it any better. Sorry, if it's not great, I'll catch it on streaming if at all. I don't want to waste my time.
Starting point is 01:54:35 mediocre voices and have a million voices that can tell me if it's worth watch. Yeah. So you make good movies that say something because if you don't, I'll just watch, play, read, listen to, et cetera. Any of the literal millions of pieces of content I have instant access to from human history or I can just go outside instead.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Yep. Yeah. It's also there's a theme emerging here which is just good movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, here's one more on this subject from Ben T. And this is all Gen Z covered, right? Yeah, I think so. There's three emails. Yeah. If you put this in a box plot, it would probably look...
Starting point is 01:55:07 Yeah, the diagram. It would just be one circle. It would correlate, wouldn't it? Hello, James and Mayso. I'm a Gen Z man right in the middle of the Generation 22 with four Gen Z brothers. Whoa. After your last episode, I got to thinking what we want to see in movies.
Starting point is 01:55:22 I think what Gen Z guys get excited about are still action-focused movies, but we want them to feel like they had a vision rather than just movie studio slot. Biggest examples I can think of are Superman, the June movies, the Batman, and the modern planet of the apes trilogy. We do also love our phones in TikTok, I can't lie.
Starting point is 01:55:38 Hey, every generation is stuck to their phone also. What am I reading this off? Exactly. A scroll that I had an artisan make at great personal expense. But I got him to copy it from my phone. And then I blinded him so he couldn't do it again. So next week, we're going to have to find another guy. Which is annoying.
Starting point is 01:55:58 Because there's not that many scroll guys in Melbourne. But do you tell them you're going to blind them or is that something you do afterwards? Because I kind of mentioned they would be like, I would love to do this and please blind me afterwards. I say I'm going to do something to your eyes, something innovative. And they're like, maybe he'll give me a kiss on the eyes. That's exactly right. Or maybe, after all my hard scroll work, he'll give me some eyedrops.
Starting point is 01:56:17 And you do, but it's acid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting what you're doing. It's interesting what I do and continue to do. I got this from Sean Johnson, from the Grandmates Group. Since you boys around my age or possibly a different age. That's so true. If you're old, if you're around our age.
Starting point is 01:56:35 We're probably younger. That's true, isn't it? What is the best PS1 game and why is it Metal Gear Solid? It is Metal Gear Solid. This is your area. I only played a couple. I had a PS1, but I only played a few games on it. Why?
Starting point is 01:56:46 You're watching CDs? Yeah, I was watching CDs. Yeah, I was watching CDs. Oh my God, you could and there would be a little sit on the screen. Yeah. I just never, I, the PS1 was where I got lost as a gamer. I'm just like, I don't play anything. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:57:00 I don't play anything. I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. I like Metal Gear Solid. The first one's great. Would you get three, the remake of? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Did you play three? No, I don't know if you did. Not originally, no. Okay, here's my favorite PS1 games. Ratchet and clank. No. Crash bandicoot. No.
Starting point is 01:57:17 No, I don't. I can, I can do it. Maybe you could talk. Yeah, I can do it. If you want me to say something, I can say something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably Star Wars Jedi Power Battles or Star Wars Masters of Terror Casai or Star Wars Episode 1.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Now that I've played. Yeah, Star Wars Demolition. These are my, I didn't have a PlayStation 1. But I didn't have a PlayStation 1. But, but I don't. I would say, and I didn't play this on PlayStation, but if I, my, mine would have been the original GTA, because I played a lot of that on PC, just that top down, I remember playing, playing it for the first time and just being like, this is an insane game that they've
Starting point is 01:57:50 made here. I've never played anything like this. That's like this fun as well. Yeah, so, I don't know. But, you know, you could, Christ Bandicoot, you could argue? Could you argue that? Yes. All right.
Starting point is 01:58:03 What else, Mason? Let's have a look. Let's have a look. I can do another one if you're waiting. It seems you do you did three in our own, bloody out. James Canton said, what's Mason's favorite, what, this is for you? What's Mason's favorite watch he likes to wear? Couldn't say.
Starting point is 01:58:16 He couldn't say, James. What about this? I love them like I love my children. Happy Father's Day? Your watches, say. To my many watches. I'm not even wearing a watch right now. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:58:26 Oh, you put, taking it off. You do have a watch on here. I do have a watch on. What about this? What movie clothes do it for him, do it for him the most. Here we go. Recently we watched The Wolfman. I didn't mention
Starting point is 01:58:35 in the time but I thought the costumes were great Yeah And you thought the movie was good for some reason Yeah I did It's not wild
Starting point is 01:58:40 Yeah it was actually Fan Helsing this week For Caravan of Garbage That's true The Ocean's movies Obviously the Matrix Changed What about the big collars
Starting point is 01:58:48 In the ocean movies The newer ones Brad Pitt's big collar I love his big colors Okay Yeah Modern costume Snatch
Starting point is 01:58:56 Great costumes and snatch Just Brad Pitt stuff Huh He did F1 He's got some Not bad costumes In that
Starting point is 01:59:02 Mason Yeah It's got a wonderful full sweatshirt. Does he? Yeah, he does, yeah. Bullet train? Bucket hat?
Starting point is 01:59:08 Buckethead, bullet train, Brad Pitt. Casino Rail, great costumes. Yeah? Less than one is not as good. What about the Matrix? I said the Matrix. Yeah, but what specifically, I should say? Because it's not all good, is it?
Starting point is 01:59:28 Some of those captains are just fucking, they're out there in a way that I don't like. That is true, yeah. I mean, all the main cast costumes, I think you're great. Yeah. I remember I did get a suit that was like Keanu Reeves' suit. Kiyah! No Reeves. Yes. When he goes to visit the Oracle, he's got a... Yeah. It's called a paddock jacket. It's like a very high cut buttoning position, but there's only two buttons. And you had a similar phone. I did. That's true. That's a cool phone, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have to come back to you next week with my favorite watch.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Sure. What about a Paul Newman? What about Paul Newman's wearing a white? I do like Paul Newman's watch. The talk, speaking to pivoting, pivoted right in the sources. He pivoted to sources. And race car driving. Well, his, one of his watch was recently sold for $18 million. He told me that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:16 I should have got it. You should have. When it was cheaper, though. Yeah. I do like a vintage style watch. Yes. You can get watches. In fact, I just bought a watch.
Starting point is 02:00:22 It's not arrived yet, but it'll be arriving very soon. What about a Steve McQueen bullet? That's a great. Like an outfit in general. He's got a lot of great looks there. He does a lot of a lot of great looks. He does like a, like a, like a tweet. sport code with a turtleneck.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Do you like a particular like a vintage aesthetic? Is that what you drawn towards? Like when you see something modern, you're like, yuck, modern, yuck. I think I'm drawn and there's, there's, people say, oh, you know, you get yourself a classic cut suit, it'll never, it'll never age,
Starting point is 02:00:52 you'll like you can wear it for a hundred million years or whatever. That's not true. Like you get, if you, if you gave me a hundred suits, I could line them up in in year order. Oh, without, like without checking the labels. You can do that. Could I double-check your work afterwards?
Starting point is 02:01:07 No, you would not. But, like, I think, you know, a bunch of stuff is classic for a reason. You know, I lean towards, especially as I've gotten older, I lean less towards the fashionable stuff and more like, get yourself a classic be coat. That's interesting. A lot of people say as you get older, you lean more right-wing, but you're leaning towards classic suits instead.
Starting point is 02:01:25 That's true. And opinions. Classic opinions. I call them classic opinions. Vintage classic opinions. From a by God era. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know when men were men.
Starting point is 02:01:36 That's right. Yeah. What about this, Mason? I got to watch it. I'm just saying I've got to watch on the way. It's, it's, it's, uh, it's reminiscent of, of your, of your Paul Newman, Daytona. Oh, that's a classic, it's got the, James, it's got the Paul Newman Dayton arcade cabinet. No, maybe.
Starting point is 02:01:51 But it's got the classic. It's what we call the singer subdiles, James. Oh, the Brian Singer subdial. No, the Jean Singer subdiles. The Art Deco subdiles. Okay. Anyway, a big fan. Like a vintage style thing.
Starting point is 02:02:02 What do you want me to say about this, so? You don't have to. No, I'd have to have to have to have an opinion on it. No, you don't have to. I'd prefer you didn't, quite frankly. Don't agree or disagree. Why isn't anybody like, James, you're a cool fashion guy. What are your cool fashion choices?
Starting point is 02:02:15 What do you think that is? I don't know, man. Is it because I look like shit? The last time we recorded, you were wearing a Henley shirt. That was more holes than shirt. Yeah, man, that's my same home Henley. So many. I'm out in the town, people are like, wow, this guy looks incredible.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Look at the way he's tucked this in. That's what people are saying about me. Mason, I got one here Unless you got one No, I don't This is from Kenny Shark Chung Great name Not really a question
Starting point is 02:02:41 This is lovely But thanks for always Providing a distraction From bad news We recently found out My Dad has to enter hospice care And spending some time In the last few weeks
Starting point is 02:02:49 Thinking about When he constantly Snacked Dad snacks are back Provided me with fond memories That contrast with his current state of frailness When I was young
Starting point is 02:03:00 His favorite snack was a grilled cheese with peanut butter. Whoa! Which is surprisingly good, he says. Okay. All right. Made me think that... No, I could see how that could work.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Greasy. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Made me think that maybe a lot of people's dad snacked less as they aged. So, cherish the memories of your dad snacking. Sorry for the bummer message. That's not a bummer message. Oh, sorry that happened to you obviously,
Starting point is 02:03:24 but that's really nice that you have those memories of him. And that snack, which could be incredible. crunchy peanut buddy you'd think I would do crunch With the cheese Smooth on a cheese Yeah smooth on a cheese I think Oh what a time man
Starting point is 02:03:38 It'd be a crunch to the bread Are you doing a toast Grill cheese yeah What I would do I think Yeah Is I would buy smooth and crunchy And I would do But never dry or oily
Starting point is 02:03:47 That's so true I would do both sandwich I would do one of each Same because there's two Two slots on that Jaffel maker Yeah And then I would try them both I'm loving what you're doing
Starting point is 02:03:58 Thank you Yeah You got any more? Is that everybody I'm like this one. What Gen Z want is from Leo? Leo? Hi James Amaiso.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Leo DiCaprio, we don't, we know you have the mind of a Gen Z. Well, he says as a 22-year-old guy, which would, if anything, he's actually dating older. As a 22-year-old guy, I can't speak or everyone in my demographic. Well, let's see you do it, though. As I know everyone wants different things, but for me personally, my attention span is completely shot from social media
Starting point is 02:04:24 and I would like a lot more fast-paced balanced original films that focus on set pieces and action and not as much the choreography. I see my attention start to wander after 40 minutes regardless of how good a movie is. I still feel engaged in 90s action movies like the Fugitive Terminator 2, die hard and also cool people being really good at their jobs
Starting point is 02:04:43 with things like Ocean's 11. Interesting. And I notice YouTube shorts often target people my age with clips from movies of people doing things really smart. But that's targeted you also. Like the founder. I hate the fucking the voiceover. It's like,
Starting point is 02:04:57 the man, he went into the bank and they said, you're not allowed to rob a bank in here, but luckily he had a backup plan. I think Sinners was a step in the right direction, but still too slow-paced. Gotcha. Take that right. I'm sorry the letter was all over the place, but my attention span has already diverted into multiple topics, and I hope
Starting point is 02:05:13 you're able to decipher this Gen Z Rambler. I don't think that the detention span thing is a Gen C thing either. I think it's everybody. Yeah, no, it's everybody who has a phone, which is everybody. Yeah, but the difference is, I think, that previous generations can remember not being like that.
Starting point is 02:05:33 But now we can. I had this thought about, because some people say, well, millennials are the only people whose brains weren't destroyed by the internet. And I'm not, and I tend to agree with that. Not because we're in, not because we're in that demographic, but because when the internet was introduced, we were introduced to it one piece at a time. Yes. Like initially it was just like, oh, basic websites that don't do anything.
Starting point is 02:05:57 They just have pictures or whatever. Sometimes you go on the internet, but it doesn't. Yeah. So you just wouldn't. Oh, that's true. And there was also a room. You had to go into a room. Yeah, it had to go into a room.
Starting point is 02:06:06 Yeah. But initially it was just websites that didn't do anything. Then it was like e-commerce. Then it was like image, you know. Then it was YouTube. Then it was social. Then it was stealing things. It was stealing things, obviously.
Starting point is 02:06:18 But for young people, it's just like, here's the whole thing right now. Yeah. The instant you switch on your phone, everything is there. You have to just have to, you know. You have to just grin at it. Bear it. Yeah, yeah. Just grip the sides of your phone and just fall in.
Starting point is 02:06:32 Oh, and a question, do you have a guys have a favorite movie where someone is just really methodically good at something? Yes, Michael Clayton. Recently, the killers, the killer. Oh, the killer, yes. Also, I just this week. Also, Phantom Thread. Yes.
Starting point is 02:06:45 He's really good at Taylor. I haven't seen that, but I've seen some of the shorts. That's a great, that's a great, speaking about stylish movies. Yeah. There you go. Vintage, classic, classic opinion. Vintage 2017. I watched Gone Girl again this week.
Starting point is 02:06:57 Oh, yeah. And that is a person being really good at a particular thing, to a degree. Not, no, they probably think they're better at it than they actually are. And I, that's a great movie. And horrific. Yes. Yes. That's the show, Mason.
Starting point is 02:07:12 That is the whole show, folks. And we're the best. Next week we'll be back stronger than ever. My voice will definitely be fixed. It's going from strength to strength. Well, you've decided that you're not going to speak until next Saturday. I'm not going to speak for five days. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:25 I'm going to record Caravan of Garbage by myself. Wow. Yeah. Good luck. I will. Yeah, I don't need it. Don't need it. I don't need it, don't want it.
Starting point is 02:07:33 Now I've just realized you don't need it. And I don't want it. Until the episode comes out, you're like, oh no, he did need it actually. That was bad. People are yelling at him. It'll just be five minutes of you reading the plot of the movie and then the YouTube, then the IMDB trivia.
Starting point is 02:07:48 And I pause. Yep. For a joke. Okay, great. But there isn't one. Somebody out there. Who is it? Do you think there's enough,
Starting point is 02:07:56 Do you think there's enough of my voice recorded on this podcast for somebody to develop one of those Mark Hamill AI deep fake voice synthesizers? Definitely. Yeah. So if somebody could get to work on that. Definitely. Yeah. What do you want that? Because then I can just type in my phone.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Oh, I thought you meant so you could AI your opinion. I mean, if you could also do that, that would be great. And I'll just, yeah. I'll just drive here and I'll leave my phone on the table. And it will answer all your questions. And then I just come pick it back up in two hours. And do great jokes. You're going to do great jokes.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. All right, Mason, bring it to a close. That is the whole episode. Thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get new listeners.
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Starting point is 02:10:22 Yeah. podcast, early video videos, video game, less place. We might even talk about the new conjuring movie on there. That's right. Definitely not, because I've never seen any of them. Don't you think? Oh, we could.
Starting point is 02:10:32 It's a new conjuring movie. Last rights. I've just seen one of them. I've never seen any of them. Like that Patrick Wilson fellow. I like him too. We should get him on the show. Yeah.
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Starting point is 02:10:59 I wish you knew what my favorite watch was. You can think about it. It's a good problem to have that you've got so many beautiful watches. I do have a lot of beautiful watches. You couldn't choose. If you could buy a watch that you do not own, what would you get? Is that Paul Numer 18,000 dollar watch? I wouldn't, maybe.
Starting point is 02:11:15 Money's no object. And it's not to sell it on. It's just something that you love. Because the modern day toner is not. not as interesting. The vintage Daytona's got a lot of character. Yeah, it's like Daytona 2, the arcade. It's like this isn't as good as Daytona 1.
Starting point is 02:11:28 If I could get anything, when you say money is no object, some watches are insane money. Yeah. But it's just something that you like so much. Oh. Is it one of those Cassio calculator watches? No, you absolute goose. You don't have to be like that.
Starting point is 02:11:41 Is it an Apple watch where your phone can tell you that you need to go to sleep and through your watch or whatever? No. There's the um, there's the, uh, the, the, uh, the Rolex Submarin Mariner. It's a classic, classic dive watch, delightful. Yeah. Do a lot of diving, are you? Do a lot of deep-sea diving, do you? Doing a lot of flips on a diving board, are you? I would. Do a lot of high diving? Had the watch. I'd have to justify it. Yeah. The Rolex also make the oyster perpetual. They make it in an ice shaded green. It's wonderful. How much is that would that be? Like 10 grand?
Starting point is 02:12:08 10 grand. That's too much. It's too much. He said money was no object. Yeah, I know, but you're actually being ridiculous. Yeah, I was going to say. Okay, that's a good one. Again, this is not for resale. This is not for like, you're not selling. increases in value over time. This is just like a watch that you want. The Tudor BlackBray Chronograph in navy blue. It's like whatever watch. I know, right?
Starting point is 02:12:29 But that's how. How much is that worth? This one is in good pre-owned, good condition, and it's $4,500. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. Is that Australian? No, that's American.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Not bad. So that's like seven grand. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. It's good about of money. It's good. It's good.
Starting point is 02:12:49 spend on something that tells you the thing that your phone tells you. But just that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks, everyone. But less accurate. Is it?
Starting point is 02:12:57 I mean, you know. Because you got to wind them or whatever. Oh, because it's not connected to the internet. I got this watch the other day. Oh, yeah, what is it? That's a nice one. It's a purple one. It's a purple one.
Starting point is 02:13:05 It's a hoffman chronograph. It's a little micro brand. Interesting. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Nobody's listening anymore so we can say whatever we want. Cool.
Starting point is 02:13:11 Yeah. There's a place in Long Island, New York called Long Island Watch. Yeah. They're a watch dealer. They have their own brand. They got stuff that you can only get in store, or can you go online? No, you go online. That's why you get mine.
Starting point is 02:13:24 It's one of the best values of micro brands, in my opinion. Okay. Yeah, all right. People should check it out. I won't. Okay. All right, bye, everyone. Okay, bye.
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