The Weekly Planet - 595 New AI Actor Controversy & The Smashing Machine

Episode Date: October 5, 2025

This week we discuss The Smashing Machine where The Rock takes a straight shot at doing a series role with a big time Hollywood transformation and all! Plus we get into all the news of the week including The Simpsons 2 official release date, how much money Indiana Jones & the Dial of Destiny really lost, a trailer for Frankenstein, the return of Brendan Fraser and Rachael Weisz in a new The Mummy movie and Hollywood's first AI actor and how it’s awful. Thanks for listeningNew Movie Commentary for SUPERMAN 2025 out now! Plus entire back-catalogue of let's play videos, bonus podcasts, movie commentaries, early access and ad-free episodes all available on https://bigsandwich.coWatch James' guest appearances on Thumb Cramps & Plumbing the Death Star at Cheerful Earful Podcast Festival: https://cheerfulearful.podlifeevents.com/home/ce25PLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:46 Tron Week at Caravan of Garbage!05:37 New Simpsons Movie Revealed10:15 Indiana Jones & Dial of Destiny's Failure14:10 Guillermo Del Toro's Frankenstein Trailer18:38 The Mummy Movie Gritty Reboot20:24 Brendan Frasers' The Mummy Sequel Rumor22:26 New AI Actor "Tilly Norwood" Controversy31:05 The Smashing Machine Movie Review47:16 The Smashing Machine Spoiler Segment59:18 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:07:08 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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With me, as always, Nick Mason. I opened my can earlier. I thought you were telling me to shh. That's actually a good, yeah, that could be a good dynamic for the podcast. Yeah, just whenever I do anything, you go, shh. Come on, man, come on. Think through what you're doing. I won't.

I won't. I won't I can't. Clearly. It's great to be here. Isn't it? I'm having a wonderful time. Wow.

Yeah. That's really good and I'm happy for you. Of course, you weren't happy to be at the Cheerful-Liffel podcast, first of all, because you didn't, you couldn't make...

I was not happy to, I was not happy to miss out on it. That's what I should have said. A scheduling issue, as you can tell, I had to go to my hairdresser. That's right. You have frosted tips.

They're coming back. I just sense they're coming back. Yeah, they're definitely coming back. Yeah. And if they're not, They are now. They are now, absolutely. But I did go on the show that you were supposed to go on,

Plum in the Death Star, and then straight after Thumb Crams, two Sand Spans episodes. That's right. They are available. If you want to watch them, they're streaming. Yeah, of course. That's linked below if you do want to check it out. It's a lot of fun.

The Plumming the Death Star was what baby, what's the worst superpower your baby could have? Okay. And thumb cramps says, we talk about video games and upcoming video games and whatever. We talked about video games. Oh, yeah. I have a video game you talked about. I talked about Terminator 2.

do you know fate oh have you played that no but i talked about it because i'm talking about things that were excited for and upcoming and whatever mason nice yeah so there's a lot of fun and good times and good memories well i'm sad i missed out on it but i'm proud of my frosted tips i think you made the clear i have for the duration of the podcast if we can imagine whatever we're talking about we're going to be talking about the smashing machine oh yeah uh directed by bennie saffty and starring the rock but while we're talking about it imagine i got frosted tips okay i will and they're like rock hard gel And the beard has also been frost tips

Yeah, this is easy for me to imagine Because I'm literally looking at it Don't need to, don't need to imagine So thank you If you do want to skip to us talking about the smashing machine You can because Rob Collington went to edits this He puts time codes below But there's news

Oh yeah And you don't want to miss any of this Don't want to miss any news you can use That's right including this Water cooler Water cooler What? What are you shush

You shush What are you shush for once Water cooler? Yes. What do you say? You're around the water cooler. Have I? This is news you can use.

This is news you could use. On a Monday. That's right. Yeah. We're going to talk about the Simpsons too. Oh, yeah. Officially revealed. I mean, we officially revealed it last week

because we talked about the promo post. Yeah, that's right. And Adam Sandler and Van Diesel in it. Really good stuff. And Courtney Cox. And Courtney Cox. Really good stuff. We're going to talk about how much money Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny really lost more than we thought.

Oh, no. So enough time is passed that they can. They can throw this number out there. Yeah, I think so. Okay, good. Trailers a Hoy for Frankenstein. Oh, yes. And do you know, there's maybe the Mummy 4 happening, maybe, potentially?

No, but I mean, it makes sense. It's always kind of on the horizon. Yeah, I don't know whether this is real or going to happen, but it might be real and it might happen. Is this another AI poster? No, this one's real. I mean, of course they're thinking about it. I don't even think this is like really news. Like you said, it's just kind of like, yeah, they would be discussing this all the time.

Is the poster, does the poster have Brendan Fraser, but he looks at, exactly like he does in 1999, and then Jacob Allard is there, and then also just a woman. Yeah. A woman who could be from anything, because that's how AI generates women. That's good. Yeah. That's what we like and is good. Sounds real.

Well, speaking of, we're also going to talk about the latest craze in AI acting. Oh, no. Tilly Norwood. I've been trying to avoid this. You don't have to avoid it anymore, Mason, because I've brought all the information here. Great, terrific. Let's start with this. Oh, Tron Airs is next week.

It is. That's exciting. Oh, this week, I should say. Oh, and it's Tron Week at Caravanagh Garbage Because we're doing two Tron episodes Tron and Tron Legacy That's right Tuesday and probably Friday

Could you just move the second one to the week after? No, because then Toronto will be dead by then It'll be over You think so? I don't know, I'm not taking the chance, is all I'm saying Fair enough And then we can have a week off Imagine that

By doing more work than we normally do in one week Does that make sense? Work smarter, not harder Exactly But also work harder Work hard as you can twice as much. Twice as hard as you can every week.

And then die? Yeah, early. Yes. Yes. But Tron Aries, I mean, early word is that it could be good, maybe. But we don't really know at this point. And you might be going to the IMAX Melbourne premiere because you want to get a photo with a cardboard cut out of Jared Lato.

That's right. Or they're going to bring the bike. They'll bring a cardboard bike. They'll bring a cardboard bike. They'll bring a cardboard bike and a cardboard stand-in. I reckon there might be a bike. There could be a bike. Yeah. I was telling you, I went to the Thunderbolts premiere, and they had the bike.

They had Bucky's bike. And you said, well, it's probably just a regular bike. I think it's a special bike. It's not. It's a regular bike that you can get anywhere. I think they had to bring the special bike from overseas. That's the thing. Like, with Star Wars, you can dump anything in there when they do a Star Wars premiere. Just like, I know, we've got an old BBA or whatever rolling around. Some rocks. Some rocks are fine. Put a kid in a Java costume. I don't fucking know.

But for Tron Air is you need to get the bike. Yeah. And I'm not saying they can't get the bike they can. I just don't think they'd buy. Oh, you know what they could do? They could do the tidal of light, the beam of light, and you could just stand under it. And get blinded.

Yeah. Yeah, that's right. It's a thousand laser pointers, like pointing down into you. Hell yeah. All right, I'm sort of excited for Trom, though, except for that one thing, it's Jared Lotto. It is, yeah. Yeah.

Mason, hello. The Simpsons, too. It's being confirmed. It says Homer's coming back for seconds. This is 20 years after the last Simpsons movie. It's coming out on the 27th of July, 2027, a spot that was held by a movie which I think you're excited for

called Untitled Marvel movie which has been moved or delayed or cancelled or it was Blade it's probably Blade now it's too early for Blade Yeah you're right Blade's 2032 Yeah

It's ever shifting It's like going towards a You know in the desert And you see what you think is water And you get there And it's just a huge pile of crap That's right That just keeps happening

Yeah Yeah This is interesting Why do they need to do this I don't know I mean, I think recently they were saying that like, this was only, this would only be a movie they did if it was a movie that people they thought would see now in the age of streaming. Okay. Because the Simpsons is so accessible now.

It's just all on Disney Plus if you want to say it. Yeah. Yeah. But having recently rewatch that first movie, it's pretty good. Okay. Especially in an era of Simpsons that I was well out of Simpsons and didn't think was very good. But I think what did you say about some of the actors at how they sound now? I believe you see.

Doesn't the voice actor for Marge Simpson sound... Yeah. 95 years old or whatever? It's a voice that's done a lot of miles, you know what I mean? I mean, yeah, it's a hard voice to kind of do. And she did Patty and Selma as well. Oh, yeah. Who were even more gravelly?

Yeah. Julie Klaus knows? Judy Kavner. She's 75. It's not that old. Right. But I think some people are going to be very surprised at how some of the voice actors sound now. Yeah, okay.

Yeah. If you dipped out of the Simpsons at the last movie, 20 years ago, you're going to be like, whoa. What happened, man? What happened? You haven't watched any of the specials where it's like, what if, what if the Simpsons but Avengers? What if the Simpsons but Trong? Absolutely not.

What if the Simpsons but Star Wars? What about the Simpsons but the Smashing Machine? What about the Simpsons and Smashing Machine? What about the Simpsons became the Simpsons? What if the Simpsons met family Simpsons? Oh, yeah. What if the Simpsons? Family guy.

Yes. What if the Simpsons? Rick and Morty. What if the Simpsons, OJ Simpson. Something to think about That's true I'm not excited I'm not excited for this

I'll say that But I'm also like All right See how this goes Yeah Do you think There is going to be some sort of AI Controversy

Leading up to this Like voice or otherwise Yeah maybe I know they've retired Some of the characters Through death Or because like Maybe we shouldn't do that character anymore

But yeah There's definitely room to do something that people don't like. Absolutely. It's a lot of opportunity there. Plenty of time for them to come up with something we don't like. I saw an image this week and it's like the difference between cinematic shows and television shows is just that they give them shadow. So they look more, you know, slightly more defined.

Worth your $25. I think so. What do you think the plot's going to be? I don't know. They have to come together as a fan leader. Because the last one, of course, was the dome. because they had to raise the stakes I guess but someone puts a dome over the springfield

and it was initially going to be Hank Scorpio because the voice of Albert Brooks was going to return as Hank Scorpio but he does return but he plays a different character and it's fine but I don't know why they wouldn't do Hank Scorpio I think the idea was people wouldn't know who Hank Scorpio doesn't matter they don't know the new guy is either

agreed doesn't matter doesn't matter at all but again I think that first movie also they brought back a lot of the writers who had left at that point which is why it kind of feels a little bit better than what they were doing at that time which was something I don't know yeah yeah wow 27 27th of 27 July 27 and he's getting a donut because that's in the picture because that's the thing that he loves those donuts he loves don't it yeah that's problematic these days isn't it

is it having a donut yeah yeah all right trans fats probably probably Mason um you know there's people starving in Africa? Yeah. What's he eating donuts? I think we should cancel him. I think we should cancel Homer Simpson. I'm with you. Thank you.

Let's start a campaign going. Let's see if we can get a real head of steam by the time this movie is in development. Then we tack on the AI stuff at the end. Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good and I like it. And by the end, people are just like, go down with the Simpsons, get rid of the Simpsons, but they don't know why. Because we've added so many.

Everybody's shouting a different thing. And we all keep changing what we're trying to cancel it for. Yep. Oh, what a treat. It's beautiful. And it's a beautiful world we live in. and it's not bad and going wrong. Correct.

Yeah. Speaking of, Forbes Mason. Oh, yes. They're talking about Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. They are? Why, though? It's a great question.

Isn't it, though? Thank you for asking. So apparently, it cost, this was the initial guess, that was $300 million against its $384 million box office. I think that also might include some marketing. So maybe $384 million. Yeah. I know.

And in an era where you needed a billion dollars, That's not good But apparently it was actually The budget was more like 419 million dollars So this definitively lost money Cinematically But then you've got to think about

The eyes on it at Disney Plus You've got to think about merch How many hats and such did they sell Hats and whips? Hats and wips and jackets The problem is obviously that Disney don't have a hold on that On the whip income

Anyone can get a hat Anyone get a hat or a whip For whatever purpose you want them for Whipping a hat putting a hat on a whip. You know, you can do any of these things and Disney doesn't see a dime. They can't stop you for doing that.

Just don't put it online because I'll come to your house then. That's right, yeah. Yeah. Then they're allowed because you sign up to Disney Plus. Yeah. As long as you keep it private, whatever you're doing with your whip and your hat,

they can't touch you. So there, there you go. I mean, that's, I mean, we're getting, I think Indiana Jones is going to become a second tier media property for the moment. That sounds cruel. Yeah, well, it is. Like video games and such.

did well, that video game probably made more money than this movie did and cost less, I'd imagine. People seem to be like this is a more authentic Indiana Jones experience and whatever and so forth. I mean, I played 15 minutes of it and I can assure you that it is an Indiana Jones video game from the first person perspective. I can guarantee that right here. But can you guarantee that beyond 15 minutes? No, definitely not. I don't know what happens after that. I do want to go back to it. I believe it becomes a cart racer. That's okay. You've got Indy and then you've got Henry Jones Sr. in the sidecar.

Oh, good, Jr., etc. Yeah. Yeah. Get a green shell, Jr. Get the green shell. Get the green shell. Get the green shell, Jr. Yeah.

God. Sure ran a little mind cart. We're on the Rainbow Road, Jr. That's all my... Sean Conner has done video games before. You think they're not going to resurrect him for this? Of course they are. Of course they are, and it's good.

Yeah, I don't know. So, you know, Indiana Jones, it is what it is. Do you think that somebody at Forbes watched the movie and when, I'm going to set a I'm going to set a little calendar alarm for this because I didn't like this movie I'm going to wait

I'm going to wait until and then I'm going to cause a ruckus Apparently a lot of this is also because a lot of this went into development with Spielberg which had a whole different plot Have you seen any of the concept art from this? No I don't think so He's like on top of like an old Nazi battleship

and he's got a gun and etc. Oh Like a what's that gun? It looks like I'm doing a wobble board But I'm not yes I'm not Okay Yeah

in a Jones Like a gun on top Like a mounted gun on a battleship Okay I don't think there's a specific brand of those Yeah The one that Rambo had in that movie

Yeah Here we go Like a browning Yeah maybe a browning I don't know I'm not even I'm not even talking to you Here you go

Oh yeah okay It's got the kind of the Kind of the big metal shield In front of it Yeah Okay So basically yeah It was a similarish adventure

Okay But it was just solely from the perspective of Indiana Jones on the top of a battleship firing a big machine gun from behind a shield No and this one he's tied up or whatever

you know often he's tied up and they're like we got you now He's often tied up We got you now he says I mean they did that They just changed it From a cave to a train Yeah exactly

Cave to a train And that's movie making That's why we like it That's right Yeah We'll probably see You can film on a cave You can film in a train

Yep We're gonna see another Indiana Jones At something At some point Live action It could be in 20 years But it will happen Yeah, yeah. Wow, exciting. Mason Trailers-A-Hoy. Wow, exciting. Wow, exciting.

Frankenstein? Yes. We've just looked at a whole bunch of Dark Universe movies. Yes. But the Dark Universe is back. That's right, it'll never leave. It can't. Is this through Universal, though? It's not. That's a good question. That's literally what I'm looking up. This is director, Guillermo del Toro. Oh, my goodness. Going to Netflix. Most of his stuff is released cinematically, but not this. Did you see, there's a new Catherine Bigelow movie? Yeah, what is that called again? House of Dynamites.

but it's on Netflix and it's a big cast but it's like you know the person behind you know Zero Dark 30 and the Hurt Locker

and etc. Zero dark for the person It's just like yeah Chuck this on Netflix why not why not it just says

distributed by Netflix so it's got a budget of $120 million of course it stars Jacob Allorty Oscar Isaac is in it

Mia Goth is in it it's based directly off the original story the Mary Shelley 1818 18 novel Oh

God's an old book It's too old book should be new, I think. Name a new book that's good. Name a new book. That one, what's it? Outlies, Malcolm Gladwell.

I knew you were going to say Malcolm Gladwell book. I thought you're going to say 10,000 hours. Is that the same thing? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. And I've read it. You might be like, if you read it?

Ask me. No, you look like someone who's read it. You're wearing the synthetic Nike athletic top of the man. I've went for a walk. It's hot. What? I don't know, man. I would recommend natural fibers.

You don't know. You don't know what I'm doing. Maybe I've got natural fibres underneath this. Also, the body is natural fibres, don't you think? I can't argue with that. You should put that in a book. I should. Yeah.

10,000 natural fibre hours that you can put in. This is getting a good, yeah, it's getting a good reception and vibe. It has a good vibe. Yeah, and we get a closer look at the Frankenstein monster. This is, what is it, August, sorry, it premiered at Venice at August 30. That's good. And it's going to be out October 17. Okay, first of all, how bold of Netflix?

To be like, we're going to debut this at the Venice Film Festival. Oh, how exciting. When can I see it in cinemas? You cannot. Well, I will say this. It's going to have select... Two-day window? ...theaters on August 17th.

Mm-hmm. Sorry, October 17th. And then releasing on Netflix on November 7th. Okay. I would see this if it could. If it could let me, let me check Australian release date. Mm-hmm. It'll be one week, but it won't be every day.

It'll be one week, it'll be three days in the week. Oh, there we go. It's Australian cinemas October 23rd. So, I know, we could see it, Mason. I would go on, oh, definitely go and see this. If it'll allow you. It's going to be at the Palais Cinema. We can do that one, Mason.

It's going to be at the Cinemanova. Oh, why can it be at a grubby cinema? We don't have to go to these fancy cinemas, ma'am. Cinema Nova is pretty grubby. It is cool and indie, but it's quite... Yeah, it's cool and indie, though, isn't it? Yeah. All their popcorn's artisanal.

I'm not here for it, Mason. Okay. There is a bar. A bar? What? For drinks? Yes. Bring my own drinks. Yeah.

You can go with your protein shake, aren't you? You'd bring a protein shake. It wouldn't keep. You'd have to mix it in cinema. There's an idea. For a book. Looking forward to this? Yes.

No, I'm telling you. Looking forward to this. Okay. Are you? Based on what you've said, I am. Yeah. You did watch the trailer though. I did.

What do you think of the look of the Frankenstein? He big. He big. That is undeniable. He big. I was reading this week that apparently he's... Let me just get another question. exquisite.

He's Jacob Alorty. Yes. Or LOD? I don't know. Oh, we did a Superman commentary speaking of because he comes up

in it. That's right. We did Superman commentary, which is at Big Sandwich.com if you do want to listen to us talk about Superman over the movie,

Superman. That's right. But he was one of the people in, he was up for Superman. And I'm like, I'm glad he didn't get it because he looks like a private school boy from Victoria,

which he is. And, but apparently he is MGM and Amazon's top choice at the moment for Bond. And I don't hate that because he is that kind of sinister. Sinister schoolboy kind of vibe. That's what you need.

That's what you need with Bond. Don't hate it. And don't have the play hit the game. Which is what I always say in my book, self-published. What are you finding about this Frankenstein man? It's looking good. He himself is holding a little bit of dynamite. Is he?

Yeah. In a ways that's very much a house of dynamite. Agreed and true. This is by Daniel Richmond. The mummy, do you know there's a mummy reboot movie coming out next year, which is more horror-focused? Okay. So we just had a mummy movie eight years ago.

Sure. We're going to have another one next year, which is good. It's going to take it back to basics. What does that mean? Not the 1999 one, the basic one where it's like mummies are scary again, which I guess is like the 2017 one because mummies were scary and that. I don't think they are scary. James that's the essential problem here yeah yeah because you get on a plane and they can't get you

exactly they can't get through customs not these days yeah yeah they're trying to check their bag but it's all tied up in the bandages they can't it would be wouldn't it and they're like so can we chop the bandages and they're like no no that's part of being the mummy what is the um listen i'm just getting AI posters and AI trailers for this how many did have how many have Brendan Fraser in them. But he looks the same as he did in 1999. I'm just checking like the era that this is set in. It's the first

movie film not to be produced and distributed by Universal Pictures. Oh, they're losing it. Since the Hammer Film series. Okay. So there you go. Technically and I guess we've, you know, because we've covered the dark universe extensively, I don't know if anybody remembers, but Universal don't own

these monsters. They're all public domain monsters. They just kind of have, they kind of just it's understood that they sort of get first dibs at this sort of stuff, I guess. And they can use the versions, obviously, that they have claimed to characters and likenesses, etc. This is Blumhouse, an atomic monster. Blumhouse! Did they do Invisible Man? I think they might have, yeah.

Nice. I don't know that. And we can't. There's no way to check. I wish we had some kind of machine that could check, but our machine is in the shop, our checking machine. That's right. Yeah. But anyway, so that's happening next year.

But don't worry because Universal is also, this is according to Dana Richmond. actively developing a The Mummy sequel from the Brendan Fraser slash Rachel Weiss series, which began in 99 and ended in 2008, even though there's also Scorpion King spin-off movies, which might be in a different continuity. I don't know. We don't know. Oh, and also The Mummy 2017 is technically a sequel to that because of the book, etc.

I guess. It's not just an Easter egg. It's locked into that continuity. You think so? Is this anything? Is this going to Indiana Jones 5? Is the love for you? I'm excited. Look, I mean, they're all much older.

I'm 100% going to give it the benefit of the doubt because it is Blum House and I have looked it up. They did do The Invisible Man. Oh, no. I'm talking about, wait, which one are you talking about? I'm talking about the upcoming one. Okay. So that one, yes. Yes. But what about a mummy the four, a four of the mummy, which is different again. Brandon Fraser, Rachel Weiss. They look the same in the AI posters.

Yes. I'll watch another one of those, yeah. Whoa. It'll be post-ironic. Yes. And I'll be like, I'm only seeing this ironically. Some bar my ticket. I'm like, I'm just getting it scanned. I'm like, I'm just watching this ironically.

And the person is like, I don't care. Whatever you're talking about. Yeah. I'm not invested in whatever this is. Whatever you're doing, yeah. Also, often when I go to the cinemas, there's just no one checking tickets. You just walk in. Just walk through it.

Yeah, yeah. They don't care. Why should that? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But they know, because it's too late to get a refund on the ticket. Yeah. You can't, you know.

And look, there is, like, I feel like I could just walk through and just see a movie for free. Yes. Well, I don't want to do that, but also it would be really embarrassing if I got caught. As an adult, my God, yes, absolutely. Excuse me, sir, do you have your ticket? Oh, I forgot to buy one. You forgot to buy a ticket?

Yep. And yet you knew what cinema to go out. That's right. Wow. What is that a crime? Well, in a lot of ways, guards sees him. What? They've got guards.

They do now. Put them on the door to check tickets. No, they're only to embarrass adult men. Oh, my goodness, Mason. The AI Revolution is here. I don't know if you've been told. I have been told, and I believe it. And we're in hell, so might as well.

That's right. Here we go. So, new segment, new? It's our segment. We're in hell so might as well. There's been big news this week. Big news. Of a new AI actor called Tilly Norwood.

It was created by Line Van de Veldon's AI talent studio, Exquoria, which is a spinoff of a production company, Particle 6. Great. Sounds really good. This is a comment that was made by Van DeVldens. Veldon through deadline about this actor

who can not replace actors but be in a movie and look vaguely kind of like some women that you know depending on the scene and look wistfully at things while things are happening around them and mostly

the city's on fire why we don't know she's driving that car through that city and then the police stopper and she's like whoa and then it's like the end question mark is this a different woman no it's Tilly Norwood

it's Tilly yeah When he first launched Tilly People are like, what's that? And now they're going to be announcing which agency is going to be representing her in the next few months. So that's good.

This is via her LinkedIn. We want Tilly to be the next Scarleti O'Hanson. She won't be. Wait, or Natalie Portman. Oh, she might be. Yeah. That's the aim of what we're doing.

Audiences, they care about... Audiences, question mark? Audiences? They care about the story, not whether the star has a pulse. The age of synthetic actors... Oh, I don't know. I kind of feel like my...

You want your actors have a pulse. pulse? You're living in the past, man. Yeah, I guess so. Don't you want somebody who's never been alive and never will be? Isn't that what you want? Yes. Because I'm sick of actors drawing on their personal real life experience. Agreed. To bring life into their characters.

Yep. I want a monster. How are they going to do the hot ones interview if they're not a real person? Apparently there's been requests. They're saying there's been many requests for Tilly to be interviewed, but we'd had to be like, no, no thank you. No comment or whatever. Yeah. Fuck you. It says the age of synthetic actors isn't coming. It's

here. I think it's not. There was a great article which I suggest to everybody read. Is this from Tyler Cohen? Yes. If you've got a bucket handy. The FP. My favorite actress is not human. First of all, settle down. The tagline, Tilly Norwood doesn't need a hairstylist, has no regrettable posts. And if you wish to see a virgin on screen, and this is one of your better chances. What is wrong with you? Yuck. Who is looking at a movie and being like, who's a virgin? here. Oh, but if you wish to see a virgin on screen you can just go to the cheerful, earful podcast page and you can watch your episodes of

Plumbing the Death Star and Thumb Crams. That's right. If you want to see exclusively Virgin sitting on stage, you're going to have the time of your goddamn life. Who's you going to act opposite? How does this work another AI guy? That's the thing. Exactly. Fuck me. But they've used different plug-in so they can't

interact properly on screen or whatever. I don't doubt that they're going to try this. And maybe even one day it will work or people will be interested in seeing this. But this technology is not here yet and also people don't like it. And fair enough. I'm going to play.

This is from Tilly Norwood's Instagram. This is from nine weeks ago. So this isn't new news, Mason. This has been out for a while. This is the post. I'm going to get Collings to just play the whole thing in audio form. You might be like, am I missing something here? You can go and look at it, but you're not missing anything really.

Okay, all right. We're going to get a copyright strike for this? Maybe. Can't believe it. My first ever role is live. I star in AI Commissioner, a new comedy sketch that playfully explores the future of TV development produced by the brilliant team at Particle 6 productions. First of all, sucking up, Tilly. Just because you're bits and bytes in a computer, it doesn't mean you have to suck up.

You don't need to. I may be AI, but I'm feeling very real emotions right now. I'm so excited for what's coming next. Collings, if you could put this in, that's great. Mason, you and I are going to watch this together. I'm excited. And then we will come in afterwards. We all knew TV was dead, but thought, why not squeeze in one last development meeting?

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Of course she can. And it'll be clipped, subtitled and monetised on TikTok by lunchtime. We're all going to hell. Got recommissioned, didn't it? Three seasons and a podcast. By an AI commissioner, much faster. But hey, at least it wasn't a reboot.

Is this not... What the fuck's going on? this a bit? This is a bit. Yeah, it's a bit, yes. Yeah. But like, it's not funny. It's not unfunny. You know, do you think that's what? It was all right. Really? Yeah. It was dreadful. And it's all, all the people, like, it doesn't even make sense. Like, who are all the different people in it? They're all obviously AI generated. But it's junk, nothing. Well, yeah. I mean, is the point that it's supposed to be awful? Yes. But that's the thing I think if you Because the character who's supposed to be The famous

The character that's going to be a star Yeah Does so little in the video Yeah That feels like it could be like A sketch on the new Mitchell and Webb Show

I don't think it could be any sketch anywhere Okay I hated that so much Interesting I didn't hate it that much Wow Yeah Well then you're the problem though

I know right I'm not saying it's good I'm saying that you could knock that out Whether you think that's funny or not Yeah, it's not I think you could knock that out In five minutes With half a dozen real people

Yeah And it would cost a lot A lot less Maybe, I don't know Yeah I just felt all Because I think the idea being Is that in the future

You'll be able to make a whole TV series In five minutes And it'll cost you $10 or whatever Yeah Right, but now It just feels really letcherous and awful. And I don't know, I think, yeah, maybe there's something in like, yeah, you can put something together in five minutes if that's something that you want.

But as like a promo for this person who's not a real person and barely in it, like what is it even awful? Great question. And I want to die. But anyway, I'm glad you liked it. I loved it. Mason, let's watch, let's talk about a real thing then, you know? Something real and genuine with heart. It's got a big man of it. I kind of feel like the other people in the video. See, that's the thing. I think the other people in the video were more realistic than she was. But is that the point? I don't know. Okay. Because I would say, looking at it now, like the first guy seems more realistic than she does. Maybe they are. Maybe some of them are real. Well, it says the video you're about is 100% her generated. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. So, I think the, I think the, I think the bit here is that, I think it's supposed to be more than her. Like, this is, as in like, like, like, it's not, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, They're not pitching, they're not really pitching her. They're pitching the entire concept of coming up with AI generated sketches. Gotcha. You know. Well, I can't wait. The future is here and it's all.

I can wait. I think it's fine. Should we talk about the Smashing Machine? Yes. Smashing Machine. It's time for big, ish movie. It's time for bigish movie. The Smashing Machine.

Bigish man and bigish movie. He's a big man. On a budget of $50 million, it looks like it's going to have about a 9 to 12 U.S. opening weekend, which is one of the lowest ever openings for The Rock ever. Oh, one of the lowest? Yeah. What's lower than that? He probably did something that was much lower at some point.

But maybe it is the lowest. But it's not aiming for that. For example, uncut gems made $50 million at the box office. That's right. And that was one of the Safty brothers together. So two of them together. Double Saffty brothers. This is only one of them having a hell of a time,

retelling the story of a man getting smashed in the head. That's right. But that's not the only thing that's going on here. What do you think the story was? And does he go to Japan or loss? Yes. I knew it. This is the story of Mark.

Kerr. Yep. And tell you this much, he's bloody lucky his nickname's The Smashing Machine, because if your name was Mark Kerr, you'd like your nickname's not Sharpie, right? Yeah. Or in Australia, your nickname would be Poscopete. Texter. Mr. Texter. Tim Texter. But anyway, this is based on a 2002 HBO documentary, The Smashing Machine, The Life and Times of Extreme Fighter Mark Kerr. Yeah. And he was a guy in the 90s and early 2000s who was like, he was a wrestler and he's like,

I'm going to get on the ground floor of this mixed martial arts. What if I could beat up people, but more. But more so. Yeah. Great and I have a good time. Big, I use my big fists to do it. That's right. Yeah.

I'm going to go to Japan a lot. Yes. You're obsessed, James. I'm not. He is. He's going to Japan a lot. He's going to Japan a lot. That's true.

Yeah. And yeah, so it's kind of, it's showing. kind of documentary style, I guess, like the office. Yes. If I had to pick a comparison. Well, because there was, of course, a documentary about this guy in 2003, which I watched quite a bit of today. I just said that.

Just to get a sense. No, no, I'm telling you that because it is very similar. I was going to say. There's a lot of scenes, like, ripped directly from it. Well, see, I went to the smashing machine. I went to the smashing machine. Yeah. Uh, Wikipedia page.

Yeah, and it's the same synops. And I was like, yeah, at the time, there's not really a, plot summary so I clicked through to the documentary Wikipedia page and somebody's put an overview that is so long that says this article may contain an excessive amount of intricate detail that may only interest a particular audience. That's a little tag there. Podcast fan. So much of it like somebody's done such a detailed breakdown and yeah like if you've seen the trailer there's a moment where he's in a doctor's office and he's explaining to an older lady. Yeah. The concept of mixed martial arts and blah blah blah. That's

That's just in the documentary. He's looking at vials of different painkillers and being like, maybe this one. Hell yeah. His girlfriend being around and everyone's like, we ate this woman. There's a lot of that going on. She's got a bad vibe. We don't like it. Yeah, a lot of that going on.

Yes. And he does go to Japan quite a bit. You're obsessed. I thought this was okay. Okay. I thought the rock was very good in this, like genuinely. You do, or for me, I met a bunch of people at the live show. The version talks about it.

Yeah, that's right. And as I said there, I think, yeah, you do kind of lose him in it. I don't think he doesn't feel like the rock for this. Yeah, I agree. Until maybe when he shaves his head. And then I'm like, hello. But then there's a moment. But then there's just the rock.

Then he grows a little chin beard. Yeah. And you're like, no, he's disappeared in the character again. That's not him. That's a different guy. I think we're going to get a lot of differing opinions on this. I think a lot of people are going to be like, no, it's just prosthetics and makeup and whatever.

But I think he's a good actor. I think he is good. He also changed his physique for this. Like he is bigger, like more kind of a puffier kind of bigger guy. Like just watching him kind of walk around, it feels awful like the way that, because he's so big. Well, I mean, that's also because he's doing a lot of Paddington bearing, just a t-shirt and a little tiny little underpants and no pants.

Yeah. You know, that's uncomfortable look at. Oh, yeah. A man is Donald Ducking it. He's got big. Big legs, too. Big legs. Yeah.

I do think, though, and it is basically the story of the documentary up to a point, is that I don't think the narrative is that interesting. I think, and maybe that's the result of, like, a lot of this is just real, and maybe real life, and maybe the appeal of this is, and what's interesting is that he is a real guy. Yeah. But if this documentary exists and this is just kind of a, like a variation on that, then what's the point?

Yeah. Yes, yeah. It just kind of meanders along and then kind of culminates in a kind of nothing kind of way. Wow. Well, see, I think, you know, not nothing. I wouldn't say that's... I mean, I think oftentimes, you know, when a documentary or a biography has chosen a particular person for, as the subject of the documentary, it's often because they had, you know, a massive rise and fall or they became the world's greatest champion or something like that. This is a different take on that kind of thing because Mark Kerr is, he was sort of one of the pioneers for a new style of professional fighting, but he never really got the credit. No. Like he pioneered it and he was there when all the rules were being established and, you know, the concepts, but he never got rich off it and he never really got famous of it. He was apparently, I was looking at his Wikipedia.

In 2015, he worked in a Toyota dealership. Must be nice. Have that much free time. You can just do that on a lot. I know, right? Just for fun. Yeah. Yeah.

But so, yeah, I think in terms of like showing what this life was like then in the 90s and early 2000s and the way the travel that you have to do. Clip a phone to your belt. Clip a phone to your belt. Like you have to, you're a giant guy sitting on a tiny plane. Yeah. Constantly, you know, in agony. Tucking your polo shirt. Tucking your polo shirt in.

So you can have easy access to the phone clip to your belt. That's right. Exactly. You and your girlfriend screaming at each. other. Like, you know, you've got not a lot of money coming. What I do think is funny that the rock is like three or four years younger than the real guy. So like he's playing, I don't think it hurts the movie, but he's playing like much younger than he is in real life. But, you know, I think that's. And also got incredibly fabulously wealthy on fake fighting. I mean, you know,

it's hard. It's athletic. It certainly is. Yeah. I think also like the addiction element of it is done really well. Again, I think there's so much of this hangs on the rock. And I do think, think he's, I do think he's very good in this. I think the, the mannerisms, like, the way he's kind of more, like, the soft-spoken nature of this character. Also, like, he is very calm and, like, measured and peaceful. Yeah, on the surface. But then you see that, like, yeah, he's, he's deeply troubled. And you see that come out because he's not great at expressing himself. Is there more to that in the documentary? A little bit, yeah. You don't, you never really know in this, he's just like that from the outset. He's very particular. Yeah. There's an opening sequence where his girlfriend

makes him a smoothie but it's not the right milk and so he's sort of you know he's you can he's very yeah particular and he's like trying not to be aggressive aggressive about it but like that kind of thing and that that sort of builds throughout the movie do we know why he's like that no i mean i didn't again i haven't watched the whole thing right i've watched like snippets of it and i was like because i couldn't because i was recording this but but no she is a main player in the documentary oh emily blind is really good in this i think thought it was this was really going to be take the kids and my sisters

and I was like that going to be that kind of thing I can't watch you hurt yourself or whatever but it's not that kind of relationship at all I don't Mark I don't you I can't live with you

while you're trying to build this machine and then they are you know Mr Kerr I must say this machine of yours it's simply smashing It's not like that It is like that

Oh it is like that Certainly the bank can't fund all of this this smashing machine of yours you're going to have to find another way to pay for it he works at he's the bank manager I think oh is he okay yeah that's good well I guess I'll become the world's greatest

mixed martial artist oh well that's a barely good idea sir a barely good idea indeed I think you could take the name the swarthy foreigner wait no you could be

the mysterious mountain man of the Orient I mean that's then he builds the machine he becomes the world's greatest martial artist and he builds his machine which is smashing it's absolutely smashing you've got to see it by the end

yeah yeah yeah I'm glad they included that it's like a Mr. McGorriums Wonder Emporium style Rubber Goldberg machine it's not in the documentary but it is in the movie yeah yeah because it's real yeah oh I would say

yeah Emily Blunt is good there's also guy she's English and you do forget that yeah there's a guy so Mark Kerr has a friend his best friend is another mark and they sort of came up together in the wrestling world

Mark Coleman he's played by Ryan Bader who is a real life yes you a UFC champion guy Darth Bader they call him sometimes good stuff I would call him texter Tim Mr. Texter yeah I thought he was great yeah he was um he is good and I was like this guy's he also seems to have his own interesting story yeah going on because a lot of it it's not draws focus but it's like when it goes to him it's like this guy's lives an interesting life. Yeah, and he, and what... Maybe there should have been a movie about him.

I thought he was quite compelling in that, yeah, that he has come... He kind of aged out of it. He aged out of it, and he kind of came up with Mark Kerr, but now all of a sudden nobody's talking about, because he trained Mark Kerr, but then he came up together and then Mark Kerr kind of outstripped him, like, athletically, and then so he's sort of been left behind and all the interviews are like, what do you think of this Mark Kerr? How good's Mark Kerr? And he's like, well, he's pretty good.

It's pretty good, I guess. but I thought this guy was great because watching him I'm like this guy seems like he's a good actor but also he's like a real he must be a real guy because you can't get a character actor

to get ripped in that you could see it in the ears and the face as well that yeah yeah exactly good actor turned fighter a fighter turn actor interesting I think though the Emily Blunt character is I don't think they flesh her out enough I think

there's a few moments one in particular where it just jumps to this extreme moment. Leading up to that, I think something I guess that is probably present in the documentary is this movie seems to skip in and out of things. Like there's just moments where

you'll be, there'll be just the characters having an argument or something like that. And then it cuts the next day and Emily Blunt's on the phone going like, oh, he's fallen, he's collapsed, he's unconscious and I can't wake him up kind of thing. And it's like we missed, there's numerous scenes where I'm like, crucial context here is. And it's, you know, it's still easy to follow what's going on.

Totally, you're not lost. But I did notice these missing pieces. Like if you're, you know, and, you know, it's an era of his life covering about three years. You can't cover all that in, you know, you're not going to cover every moment in the garage where he's putting the nuts and bolts in it and putting the big parasol on the top or whatever. Totally. I can understand that, yeah. Of his fantastical machine. Where did he get that parasol, though?

He got it from a sultan. Did he? Yeah. I would have loved to have seen that saying. Well, we skipped over it. It just wasn't important. he stole it from a sultan and he's running away on a camel through the desert

but there's no time okay all right I just think that would have been good to say so yeah no I agree it does feel it does feel that way and it's obviously by design yeah like it doesn't I don't know because it doesn't feel like

they cut a bunch of stuff out no no it doesn't it's not it's not an issue of they filmed too much they needed to trim for yeah two hours or whatever it is Like, it's clearly been done that way by design, but it is quite noticeable. Yeah. What do you think?

Because people have been talking about, like, award seizes, etc. I don't think this would get a nomination for best film, but I think the Rock could get nominated. I think there's a fair chance that he would for this. What do you think? But is that also because there's a relentless marketing machine and his agents, I'm sure, are pushing for it. But I think it also is the kind of thing where the Academy responds to a body, because it is a body transformation. even though a lot of it's done afterwards but he is bigger

and it's the prosthetics and it's the performance and all of that and it's something that he hasn't done before I mean going back to the performance I think there's some scenes where he is a lot of is the conflict between him and Emily Blunt

and they're arguing over money and you know that his team doesn't want her there in Japan where he loves to go and I think that a lot of those sequences are really good I don't know I think he'll win some real

Yeah, I think he will win some awards, but I'm not sure if this is Academy. The award winning or nominating. I don't think this is like Oscar nominated stuff. I think you'll be nominated, but I don't think he'll win, depending on what's... But I don't know anything about the Academy or what they're doing or what they see, which is none of these, so... Yeah, also is... I feel like the wrestler, Mickey Rock's the wrestler. Did he get nominated for something?

I think he did. Did he win? I don't know if he won. No, I don't think he won. Yeah. Is the Rock generally well liked? In Hollywood? I think so.

Okay. I mean, in terms of a... I mean, honestly, this might be the first... We know that a lot of academy voters and a lot of academy kind of committee people are quite old. Yeah. Maybe this is the first thing they see of him. Yeah, it's possible.

I mean, if that is the case, I think they're way more likely for him to get a nomination. Oh, he was nominated, yeah, but didn't win. Okay. I should watch the wrestler. I still haven't watched it. It's a Darren Aaron joined, isn't it? Yes. Yeah.

Yes. God. Should you do some spoilers? Yes. I'm going to say best movie I liked it. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't say I loved it.

I wouldn't even... I spent most of the week thinking about one battle after another. It's good movie. There's so many just fun little bits in it. Yeah. What's interesting because the discourse... We'll get back to the... No, let's do this.

Smashing Machines. Let's turn this off and talk about one battle after another. Then we turn it back on. Don't forget to switch it off. Don't forget to stop recording. I don't tell me how to podcast. I don't know how to do this. I'll be doing it for all.

Okay, so now the recording has been switched off. You've done that, right? Oh, God. I can use my real voice. That's right. Hello, everyone. Not everyone. It's just me and you.

That's correct, yes. Which you refer to as everyone. Correct. Yeah. Which I know. There's no reason for me to reiterate because it's just you and me. Exactly. Yeah.

I mean, exactly. It's hard to be to come out of character sometimes. Can you just use your fake voice, though? I will, yes. Okay. Because your real voice is very unpleasant. It is. I know, I know, I know.

Now it's just you and me in the room. I need you to know awful, awful. You told me, I know, you don't need to tell me. This is a conversation we've had all the time. And I wouldn't want to embarrass you by saying that to all of our listeners, which is why I'm glad the recording is all that. But one battle after another. Yeah.

I'm just thinking about all the funny lines. Because the discourse over the last couple of week or so has just been this movie and everybody pointing out their favorite bits. I'm like, I wouldn't even talk about. Yeah. We didn't even talk about. Anything in particular? No, I don't know.

The fact that DiCaprio keeps calling his daughter's friends like homie. an essay because he's that era of man the running bit where he can't sit down and put his charger in. Oh yeah, that's very fun. That's very funny. Just when they ask Benicia del Toro if he's had anything to drink and he's just like,

a few beers, a few small beers. Hell yeah, hell yeah, brother. It's a good movie, I think. Just good stuff and just all the different layers of it. Yeah, what a movie. I agree. also look we'll put it back on finally james yeah that red light has been going the whole time no no no it's been edited it out oh sorry about then okay you worry over nothing okay let me

worry about the podcasting okay you worry about drinking that delicious can of Coca-Cola no sugar yum yum-gum smashing machine smash machine spoilers so yeah I guess the same where things like really escalate is when they get in a huge argument he breaks a couple doors he's a door breaking man in this um I thought that was going to because you know that is still domestic violence but I thought at some point because I deliberately went into this not knowing I was like I don't need I don't want to look this guy up

No I didn't either See what his deal is I don't want to you know I don't want to know this ends in some sort of tragic horrible murder suicide Exactly something like that And so yeah he never He never hits her or anything like that

But like it's the whole time I'm like Is this where this is going to go? He could yeah And I just feel like it does feel like Two very troubled people In a relationship and they have broken up since after having a kid, which I think is good from what I've seen from this movie.

A little smashy, their child. That's right. But yeah, there's a moment where she just like grabs a guarded ghost to shoot herself and he like tackles her. It feels very abrupt. Based on this... It's real. Apparently it really happened. Based on this overly detailed summary of the documentary,

the gun was not loaded. Yeah, but he talks... Yeah, I think in the documentary they talk about it, but obviously you don't say it because it's not something they filmed. So, yeah, it's, I don't know, because it kind of ends where he gets, he comes through addiction, so he stays sober, gets kind of as good as he's ever been. And then he's in this tournament, it's all building up to him fighting his friend. In Japan.

In Japan, because he's going to Japan. He's a real weave. So, you know, the bracket has been, there's 16 fighters in the bracket, it looks like, based on how good everybody is and who's, you know, got various beefs with other people, you know, certain people are going to win, lose, what have you. and then it's probably going to end up with Mark Kerr fighting Mark Coleman, you know, friends versus friends, what's going to happen? And then Mark Kerr just gets whipped. Yeah, the round before. And there was a moment earlier where he loses a fight, even though they change the rules

and the way that he lost, like it was, it didn't count or whatever, but he never lost before and he kind of breaks down and like this thing that happened to him. And at the end, he loses, but he's seemingly okay with it. But I feel like if you change the like the, the sort of. He even says that. He says, I'm seemingly okay with this. He was hitting the head a lot. Yeah.

But if you're, if you change the music in that scene, because it's kind of an uplifting kind of score, I think it would just change the entire tone of how he felt in that moment. I don't think it did a really clear job of like, like the culmination. They should have used the carnival music that's being produced by the machine. Exactly. That's not.

I mean, he hadn't finished the machine at that point. That's true. Yeah. But you could cut forward. You could cut forward to the future, the far future. So it just kind of felt, I don't know, it just kind of, I don't know, it's like, oh, he's friend won. Yeah. Which is, again, what happened?

Hmm. But then he continued fighting until like 2009 and then retired. Do you think maybe when they made the original documentary, they expected him to win? Yeah, maybe. And they got all the footage and then he didn't win. And they're like, well, we still have to make the documentary. Yeah, we've filmed all this. Yeah.

Maybe we should have spent more time on Mark Coleman, the other Mark. Yeah. Oh, no, I've looked at the booking sheet. We were supposed to do a documentary on Mark Coleman. But then we asked Mark Kerr if he was Mark, and he said, yeah. So we filmed it for three years. At least he built that machine. Yeah, that's right.

Because that's good television. Yeah, I think it's worth, I think it's, yeah, I mean, I think if you want a more kind of... This is what we wanted. We wanted the rock to do something. Yeah, totally. And he did it. Yeah. I just think the movie overall is not great. I think if you

I think I'm not also it's not a bad movie I just also want to It's the best movie ever Yeah definitely Maybe I'll reassess it And re-evaluate it

Yeah maybe I mean you don't watch it again right now No it's not like If you're expecting like the like warrior Yeah Which is an MMA movie But that's a very Hyper Hollywood eyes

Kind of version of this It's not it's not like that I also it ends with The real market And he just it's just him going to the supermarket Walking around talking to himself He goes to the supermarket And he goes to the supermarket

and he talks to the cashier and then he takes his groceries out to his truck and then he waves and he goes to us the audience. Yeah, yeah, and then he drives off. I think that the last few minutes of the movie, that part and the last bits with the rock, I think reframe it. I thought it was

as kind of putting a spotlight on this man and what he did for the sport. Yeah, I think that's what it is. I think if you look at this as the idea of, again, it's not a it's not a, you know, a horrible tragedy, but I think it's interesting. I think it, yeah, I think it's, I think a very interesting movie about the, the triumph

and the tragedy is the triumph that he pioneered and then he never really got any credit. But, you know, no, he's got this movie. He's got this movie. Yeah. And The Rock, of course, he's getting even skinnier because he's playing a chicken man, a 90-year-old chicken man. So I reckon he's going to lose another 20, 25 more pounds. Whoa. I mean, it must be like being that size and like the amount of food you have to eat and the pain

and just, like, just watching him walk around just seems awful. A different kind. One of those very muscular chickens is how he looked in this movie. He did. I've shown you the videos of those monster chickens, haven't I? They're good, Mason. Those videos you've shown me. From my backyard. There's a good video. They are good videos, are they? Yeah. I don't really have any complaints. I don't. I just think it's, I enjoyed it. What do you think would have made you? Because again, like we've talked about how, you know, he's, he's spent a whole, you know, a decade plus wanting to be the biggest Hollywood box officer.

draw ever and that that has been his reward and the best paid you know actor and what have you and then we've liked and then the you know the reviews have dipped and the the box officers dipped a little bit and so we've said oh he should do something indie with the safti brothers and he's literally got one of them yeah he got one of them what do you think and opanheim is he's he's been he's been he's always sunburn in that order what do you think would have made you go this is a triumph I mean it is a triumph. I think it is a triumph. I think he did do it, like you said. I think it's, and like watching a movie with a guy who looks like the rock and not recognizing him

the entire time and being absorbed in the story. Yeah. To me, says that he did do it. I just think whether it's the way that this is structured or just the story. Yeah. I just don't think it's that compelling a narrative. It's interesting. I think that this guy, he has an absolute total meltdown because he you know he's so we we get some sort of

opening narration when the movie starts and he's you know his initial we see his initial the first fight we see is just a series of battles over one afternoon

seemingly where he just takes on like three or four guys and just at once defeats them all handily just you know within seconds kind of thing because he could head butt as well yeah yeah and I guess and he's taught you know in this narration

he's talking about how my god I have so much fun and I feel alive and I feel like a god and all this sort of stuff and then he's defeated and then he immediately like he has this emotional

meltdown Is that kind of Is the rock drawing on something for that? Oh okay yeah I mean I think you would relate to this guy Yeah I mean they're the same age Because he

Because yeah Because the The way it reflects his career Yeah and also he isn't Like everybody around him's like Well it's just one fight kind of thing But he's like Well now I can't be

The guy who was never defeated Yes, that's right. Yeah. So it kind of feels like, also, we didn't really talk about the fighting. Isn't that interesting? That's a good point. Yeah. Do you want to talk about it?

It's pretty brutal. Yeah. Yeah. Especially the early days of this and apparently they took out, I think I saw this in Mark Komoda, reviewed Mark Kermode. Was it that letter? Sorry. Apparently they took out the kneeing to the head because it would end fights quicker.

That was the only reason. Yeah. Because you get knead in the head and then you would just. Yeah, that seems to be the, you know. It wasn't a danger thing. No, it was, and I think the rock as Kerr in this, he says something like that, they're taking away all his weapons. Yeah. Like, he seems to think it is a, it's a personal affront to him.

Like, they know that he'll win immediately if they let him head butt and they let him do the knee and et cetera. So they're like, we're going to, we're going to make those illegal. Yeah. Which kind of, you know, he's kind of, he thinks that it's a personal, like it's a, it's sort of hamstringing him. And it's interesting how he, how he relates to. because you'll still keep his cool in those scenarios even though he'll like you might

you know arc up a little bit but he'll save that rage for home there is a moment I think it is also it is in one of the trailers where they're in Japan and it's him and Dawn his girlfriend

and they're at the medical tent and there's a Japanese chemist pharmacist there and he's like here's your you know headache tablets your you know mild pain killers you like do you have anything stronger

and the guy's like we can't have help you and he's like oh oh oh can't help me interesting you sure you couldn't help me like you're giving you permission yeah yeah yeah yeah that's all good stuff yeah i'm gonna watch this james when it comes out on streaming believe that yep and i'm gonna enjoy it do you want to hear these reviews that other people sent in at the planet broadcasting growmates group yes from mike mollock who says amazing acting yes even by mr hierarchy is about to change a bit of a zip-through mark store over three years that means some things don't hit as hard as they should such as rehab

being resolved in five minutes, barely in a convenience. But a few arguments are very tense and hard to watch at times. Overall, best movie ever. Yeah, we didn't really get anything.

Like, there was no, there was no, there was no struggle in rehab. There's no, like, and he's in there. He's in there.

He's in there. There's moments of that. He's in there, and then he leaves. Yeah. Sean Martin says, I went in with this. He leaves in a convertible

and the top has to be down because he's so big. He's a big man. He's a big man. Sean says, I went in to this with high expectations, opening night,

and left an hour in. Rockless time, but I didn't care enough to stay. Maybe it really turns around in the second up, but I decided I'd rather spend that extra hour at home and watch it on Netflix with my dad in a few months. It ultimately felt like... My dad is The Rock, it says there. Whoa, really?

Yeah, I know, right? It ultimately felt like movies that I've already seen the rest of Southwell come to mind and not nearly as good, worst movie ever. I guess the difference in those ones, they're not real, you know, stories, technically. And Alexis Gantry. Trash wire.

Oh, yes. It's fine. Okay. A movie exists to prove that the right. because this can be a serious actor and he's good but it's not like the role as a stretch for him Emily Blunt was a major standout though she practically disappears into the role

I ended up giving it a three out of five Well anyway what I'm hoping is he doesn't have Like his character in this he doesn't have a huge meltdown and give up Like this is a good step I think I totally is yeah I would love to see him do another thing Yeah he's also I don't know I'm sure this is part of the PR as well But you see him in interviews he's not

He's not like the exaggerated Right okay he does feel more like his character in this Just like a more low kid Well, maybe he's always felt he has to be the character. Yeah, totally, yeah. Promoting, you know. Aren't we all putting on voices, podcasting voices? Not me.

Me neither. It's my normal voice that I use in real life. Mystica. You notice nobody mentioned the machine. They should have mentioned it. I don't understand. Nobody in these reviews. Yeah.

It was a fact. Well, one left an hour in. Didn't see the final machine. Well, you get a sense, like he's building something, but you don't know until the second half. That's right. Yeah. Just the fairy lights alone. I mean, it would have been better for you.

saw him running away on that camel. I agree with you. Yeah. Sult and shaking his fist. Yeah. Mystica! It's a different guy. It's a different, I know. I've only got two voices. Yeah, I know. Yeah. All right, should we move it along? Let's move it along. To what? What we're reading? I think it's...

What are we going to read? I think it's can. We will. I'm doing nothing. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? Mason. Hello. I know you've been up to something. Oh yes. Because you always are. I'm always up to my little shenanigans. You always got a little story. No, I don't. I wish I had more stories. I wish I was one of those people that could take just like an everyday occurrence. They're just down the shops. And they're

like, and then this happened. People like, whoa. You know, I think of those people. What do you think of them? Their stories are bad and boring and they drag them out. And I don't think they're that interesting. Wow. And you shouldn't do that to people. Engage them in whatever nonsense you're doing. I'm going to do that every day to you now. I don't mind if you do it. Oh. I think you would only do it if you thought it was of note. Oh, yes. Whoa. Yeah. Do you have any stories about what you've been reading or what you're going to read? No, but I did tell you out heartburn earlier.

Yeah, you did tell me that. I guess that's a story in itself. And I was involved because I got you some heartburn medication. That's right, yes. Hell of a story. Oh, hell of a story. We can tell people now. Yeah.

Like as a duo. You can, I'll tell the main bit of the story and then you can jump in like a hero. Wait, whoa, wait, way, way, way. This guy, he's not telling you the whole story. This guy is telling you he was just, oh. Oh, I've got a heartburn. Oh, but guess who jumped in with a milanter? This, who's got two thumbs, and this guy?

This guy, that's what I say. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's a round of applause. Yeah. Man. Hell of a story. Hell of a story.

Hell of a story. Well, you're not up to that on Peacemaker, even though you know. I'm aware of what happened. Yeah, we'll talk about it a bit next week because there's one more episode. It's a really long episode. It's like, oh, 50 minutes. Thank God. My goodness.

This 32-minute episodes, Mason, I tell you what. Now, some, maybe a month ago, I read The Bat-hyphen-man first night. Do you think, do you remember, I mentioned that? I do remember that, yeah. It's a sort of, it's a story set in the very early days of Batman. It's sort of set in the late 30s, but it's got like very modern art to it, like quite a photorealistic art style. And does it take his, like, some of his first lesser-known villains and put it in. Is that that one?

Yes, it does, yeah. So it's written by Dan Juergens and illustrated by Mike Perkins, but the second issue came out, the Batman's second night. Oh, I'm loving that artwork. And it's the Batman versus a kind of hooded hangman type character. Damn, that's great. And it's set in 1940. Whoa.

So, why isn't he a cross fighting for the troops? Because he's a cowdy. He wants to put on his stupid little out there and swing around. He does. And also, I get to be in the wall because I've got to swing around. I've got to swing around.

Get down from there. Stop swinging around and get in the wall, Batman. I can't up here? I'm stuck up here. If I could get up there, I would. Oh, you can't there? Can you? No.

I'm up here. because I'm the only one who invented the grappling hook gun. Throw it down. I can't do that. It's attached to my glove. He's fucking guy. Also, to be fair, they weren't involved in World War II. But that's because they were all inspired by Batman.

That's right. Not join World War II. And just look at see what Batman was doing, swinging around mostly. That's right. How is it? I enjoyed a lot. Yeah, how many issues are they doing for this one? I have no idea.

Has he got the purple gloves? Yes, he does. Oh my God. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's great. I'm really happy for you. honestly. Hell of a story. I'm watching, I'm about 20 minutes

away from finishing Mithrigan which is the sequel to Mottugan which was the first Mithregan movie. Now you're watching Mithrigan 2. Yes, correct. Mithrigan 2. Yes. It takes the Terminator 2 route where they take the antagonist from the first movie

which is Mithregan. And now she has to stop her killer robot. Mithrigan too. Yeah. But I think it's not enough to it doesn't elevate it. Again, I haven't finished it. But it hasn't Oh, that last act will elevate. Oh, the action's good.

Like, it's, and, you know, it's, it's, it's all very well done, and the new antagonist is good. But, um, there's not the jump from, like, just having the villain now be the good guys. Yeah. It doesn't elevate it immensely. I think they're kind of mostly on par. And, you know, it's like AI and whatever. Yeah, yeah.

And, et cetera. You like AI, so you'd probably like it, Mason. I love AI sketches. Beautiful and good. Yeah, but it's, I just want to see where this, this Tilly Norwood sketch thing goes. You know what I mean? I don't think it's going to go anywhere. Okay. What I said to you off-air before. That you loved it. No, I said that at least it's a sketch with a point. Yeah, sure. There's little bits in it about how we've AI generated, all this sort of, you know.

But it also looks bad. It's just cutting to different AI generated talking heads. And like, who were any of these people? Yeah. It's stupid. It's stupid. And I hope whoever made that dies. Oh, well, speaking of, I also watched the first episode of Mitchell and Web are not helping. Is that good? I didn't like it. Oh, no. I didn't think it was great. What do you, you, you enjoy I enjoy AI comedy more then, Mason. I guess I am doing that, yes. Is it not great because you're expecting good things? Yes.

Do you think that's a possibility? Look, I only watch the first one. They do, there's a, look, and people are going to, James, people are going to come at us because, there's a sketch in it, and it's called sweary Australian drama or something like that. Okay. And the bit is it's just a sort of an outback drama and everybody's swearing. But I'm like, that's not even a thing that's here really.

That's not even a thing, exactly. Auntie Don't have a sketch on their channel, which is like every Australian drama, which on commercial television. That's a more accurate representation. But this was not. Yeah. And I'm not saying it because I'm like, I'm Australian and I'm offended.

I'm saying it because it didn't seem. This doesn't reflect your experience. No, I don't know who's right in this and I don't know who's. It just didn't. It's me. I'm running it. Also, it doesn't have a laugh track, which I'm wondering if that affects my enjoyment.

Because all the previous ones do, don't they? They do, yeah. I don't know if they were shown to live audiences or. Maybe they're finding their feet again. You know, it's been like 20 years, maybe since, Mitchell and Webb? I don't know, but I think, I don't know, there's never been, there was nothing in it where I'm like, oh, that's going to, that stands up there with, you know.

David Pumpkins. I'll be the bad guys, number wang. Yeah, sure, David Pumpkins. David Pumpkins, exactly, yeah. Did you know, Olivia Coleman wrote some of those sketches? Yeah, well, she's in a bunch of them. Yeah, I know, but I didn't know. Oh, right, yes, I did.

Sorry, Mason. Sorry, but she's not in this, though, I assume, this new one. No, no, she's not. Well, she should be. Bunch of you guys. A bunch of new guys. Are any existing cast members? Mitchell and Webb.

Obviously. I don't think so, no. Yeah. Well, are you going to stick with it? What's it on? I just found it on YouTube. All right. I just came up and I'm like, all right.

Free! Also, I haven't watched it yet, but I will watch it today probably. Amazon have the new Parker movie. So, you know, payback, you know, Mel Gibson. What's that called? It's called Play Dirty. Yeah. So it's got Mark Wahlberg and Lakeith Stanfield.

Great. So Lakeith Stanfield, great. Big fan. Others, I don't know. Will it be any good? I don't know. It says it's... 49% Rot Tomatoes.

49% doesn't mean it's bad. It does, I think. It's also directed by Shane Black, which I think you knew maybe. I did, I think, yeah. It doesn't look like it's as good as the Russell Crow one. Do you mean the Mel Gibson one? No, the Russell Crow movie he did with the guy, nice guys. Oh, yeah, no, it wouldn't be, yeah, yeah.

There's no way to be good as the nice guys. Because that's a good movie. It is a good movie. Yeah, wow. What's the Team Downey production, this one you're talking about? Oh, that's Robert Downey Jr. and Mrs. Downey, Mrs. Downey Jr. Yeah. And it's an MGM vibe.

Oh, this is what you lost Patricia Routledge, James. Oh, keeping up appearances fame. Highest synth bouquet. 96 years old, hell of an innings. That's right. That went around my family group chat. Oh, yes? Yeah.

Did it go around the boys group chat? I don't think it has. I'll check, but no, that's mostly. I mean, that's your job to put that in there, I think. It is. Fellas. Stop what you're doing. Yeah.

Yeah. And listen, you're going to read this and you're going to be like, is it pronounced bucket? No, it's pronounced bouquet. RIP. Agreed, RIP. That's right. RIP.

RIP. But not RAP to the letter segment. No, it's time for letters. That's right. And they're very much alive. We'll say RIP after when we finish them. Yeah. Here it is.

The classic one was letters, oh letters. We love you. Some letters. They're only the take away. We're going to hear right now. We're going to do letters. All I'm saying is for that AI sketch. Yes.

Yeah, there is a concept there, but the execution is bad. Just because somebody thought, well, here's the way to do it. Also, it feels like it's making a meta commentary on the idea that they've made this woman who is the best chance to see a virgin on screen. Oh, yeah, that's awful. That part is more. And then they're putting that in the video just like, she can do anything and that's great. But it's like, and they're making it kind of creepy.

Also, but you made this. No, but I would also say that I think the way to get this past people is to be like, well, you know, to do like a little ironic take on it. I know that's what they're doing. Yeah. They're doing a kind of ironic tag and I imagine if you could, you know, whatever. Yeah, but it doesn't, I hate it. Yeah.

I hate it and I hate it. Well, I love it. I hate thinking about it. I wish like you I could just think about the movie one battle after another, but I can't. I've got this other thing bouncing around in my head now. Mason. Yes.

This is the letter segment of the show and it's a wonderful experience for both listeners and people who are on the show. That's right. If you do want to reach the show, you can shoot Mason a shorter Gmail to weekly planet pod at Gmail.com. But don't shoot Mason. No, leave him alone, please. That's right.

And he's needed for the podcast and public services. Thank you. And also, you can go on the Planet Broadcasting Greatmates Group. And every week, there's a cool thread. And it's so cool. Yes. And you can put your letter there. Do you want to start with a letter?

Would you like me to start with a letter? His name on from Max. You didn't even answer my question. But I guess by you moving forward, that does answer the question. Yeah, the context was there. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Max?

I could stop, though. No, I don't want you to. I would like to go first. Live your truth. Thank you. Is this your truth? Yes. then you have to do it.

It's not my truth. If nothing is... If this podcast has proven nothing over the years, it's my truth is interrupting you while you try to do a thing. As for Max, how's it going, lads? Good.

Good, Max. I don't want to speak for you, James, but I'm going to... We're both good. We're both good. We're both good. I just thought to write in as I'm a long time listening

and wanted to voice my appreciation for you two. I'm also from New Zealand, aka the better Australia. Brutal. Well, why is it called the Better Australia and not the best New Zealand or whatever? Yeah, yeah. Why are you even bringing us into that?

Exactly, yeah. We're not called the worst New Zealand, aren't we? Max says, I've recently fallen out of love with comics. I still keep up to date with the news, thanks to YouTube, but Marvel and DC don't do it for me anymore. However, I've started watching anime, which fills the whole that the big two couldn't. My question is, what anime and or manga do you two enjoy? I'm going to expand that question also, James, to be like,

how can you get back into comics? Yeah. Because I, because I just talk about Batman, I'm very much, lately for me it's been DC and independent stuff or image and stuff like that very little Marvel yeah same actually one of the things I will be reading because I ordered it the other day but it's more for my son there's a Marvel Godzilla crossover series

but I probably wouldn't have read that if it wasn't I'm like oh my son will like this yeah right yeah yeah no I think I'm in the same camp as you actually how's that how's that happen I don't know I've sort of fell off because Marvel would both Marvel and DC are doing ultimate Spider-Man I'm doing yeah Yeah, Marvel and DC both doing alternate universes now. I mean, they always have and they always will. Yeah.

But Marvel did, Marvel started off with the Ultimates, the Ultimate Universe. Ultimate. And I'm like, this is great stuff. And then DC have started with the Absolute Universe. And now I'm like fully on board with the Absolute Universe. And I'm completely dropped off with the Ultimate Universe. We're fully on board. What's happened?

The Ultimate Spider-Man is wrapping up. So it might be worth dipping back in. Dippin. Dippin. Have you seen the reveal of New Lex Luthor? Yes. What's going on with E? do on even? I don't know, but it's probably a serial killer because he seems too nice.

Oh, okay. That's interesting. Maybe he's just nice. Sometimes Lex Luthor is nice. Well, on the surface. And not even sometimes. That's right. That's right. Yeah, so what do you say? What do you, how do you get back then? If you wanted. You don't have to. Take a break. It's true. You don't have to. It's totally fine. Yeah, yeah. You seem like you're doing a bit of an anime run. Yeah. And that's okay. Um, yeah, I reckon check out some, check out some indie stuff. Check get some image comic stuff just go on i bet if you i reckon if you went to comicbook dot com and you click that comics tab if in fact there is one track down some stuff that you have some

of your favorite writers do it do what what people used to do back in the day which is just go to your local comic store and look at the have an argument have an argument with a man who's clearly wrong yeah man he thinks he's got authority because he's behind the counter well guess what he's wrong if you come out behind that counter we could have a fight that's right yeah gloves off no badges no guns no rules gentlemen, we'll see who's right about... We're going to take this to the map. We'll see who's right about Mighty Mouse.

Yeah, just go to your copy. Or just go to, yeah, like a, like a, like, I'm sure there's probably blogs of like new releases and just like, check out a cover of something cool, you know? There is a, there is a huge difference between saying like something in front of you and being able to pick it up and like thumb through it as opposed to going to comicsology and being like, what's new? What's new, Mason? What's new?

The store. Yes. Tom Redhead says What about anime manga? Are we reading any of that? I'm not reading any of that. I'm not reading any of that. I don't know if they even know this, but they're backwards.

If they printed them forwards, maybe I would consider it. Oh, yes, but you're not going to for that very reason. No, it's just I'm not against it. It's just I've got enough things at the moment that I'm keeping up on and keeping track off. Exactly. For one, I've got to finish that finally after all these years. Yeah. But no.

I mean, you know, one piece is big. Yeah. Maybe I'll do that one day. Yeah, yeah. But there's also a million, billion. I saw a clip recently from an anime. I haven't watched in many years. There's a series called Pat Labor, which is basically, it's like cops.

Yeah. But they have the giant police robots, so the mechrobots. So they've got the giant revolver. That's fine. No, I haven't ever seen it. I haven't seen it in a long time, but Pat Labo-U-R or L-A-B-O-R. P-A-T, L-A-B-O-R. And you'd be like, whoa.

Oh, there was a movie. Yeah, there's a couple. Three even, maybe, I think. There's a movie. Yeah, yeah. this looks fun but i saw a clip recently from pat labor too which is like it's it's whenever you see it like whenever you see a i generated like look at this a i generated anime it's from this era yeah yeah yeah uh no i don't know i'm i'm a million

years behind but i'd rather watch a movie i think than an ongoing series yeah talking anime yeah because otherwise it's like you're sinking you're sinking a year into it you know about these pat labor video games no they're only exclusively released in japan oh you know about this Well, we're not, how would I know of that? That's what I mean. I'm not exclusively in Japan. Apparently, they appeared in Super Robot Wars Operation Extend on the PlayStation Portable

from 2013. Oh, there you go. My goodness. Mason, I've got a letter here from Tom Redhead. Oh, yeah. He says, do you think it's become more common for TV shows to just set up what's to come rather than just wrap up their own narrative?

Even when they don't know if there's more on the way, I was disappointed with Alien Earth because I felt it ended with just sitting up things for the future, but a second season hasn't been greenlit. The Acold also felt like setting up a story that now won't be told, which ultimately makes it large, redundant why don't these TV shows finish their stories and character arcs and plant seeds

and plant seeds for the future rather than leave so much in the air it's to it's so it's all audience retention yes that's all it is so they're trying to get you to come back which is often or can be at the expense of the narrative yes and then when you're three years between seasons yes you obviously run the risk of people losing interest yeah yeah also like it does feel like when you get to the end of a show and then it's just a big cliffhanger it's like i'm not coming back to this i think shows and movies have done the cliffhanger since sort of time immemorial yeah it's just really it's the degree to which they do them yeah um and i i think the yeah i don't know i reckon old older tv shows were like well we're we're leaving you some clues some breadcrumbs

for the next season but we've definitively wrapped this up yeah you know what i mean whereas now i think it's kind of it's they leave everything open absolutely yeah yeah god i think if you have a satisfying conclusion to the season you'd be like well it'll be nice to see another one but i yes i don't know i don't know man i think though i think you're right i think if you have a self-contained season and it's really good yes and people love it then i think wouldn't that also lend itself more to people demanding a second season yes it's just an idea yeah just an idea that i've hudges now. But maybe executives see a fully realized complete season of a show.

And then when they're... What's the longevity of this? Yeah. And when the, you know, the creators go and pitch the second season, they'd be like, but didn't you finish it? Didn't you finish it? Did you finish it? We're stupid. We're really stupid in here.

We're stupid. We've got a lot of money. We're behind this counter though. Oh my goodness, Mason. Have you got another letter? I hope so. I've got so many letters, James. This is from Jack.

Hello, lads. That's us. Jack here from England. Oh, Jack? Both me and my girlfriend are massive fans of yours and have been for some time. It's a good start. Oh, let me just say, I should bloody hope so. Yeah.

Pull your socks up, if you're not. If you're not a huge fan of us, pull your socks up. However, your recent review of The Mummy 2017 has caused some arguments. You see, I love the Tom Cruise Mummy movie more than the Brendan Fraser one. You're wrong. I'm that guy who has to explain which Mummy is my favourite. Anyway, please settle our argument. I think Tom Cruise is sexy than Brendan Fraser and my girlfriend disagrees.

You're out of your fucking mind. Please can you boys sort this out and make the final decision? Yeah, you've already said it, James. Brennan Frasian now is still sexier than Tom Cruise is. Tom Cruise is without sex. Agreed. Yeah.

I think we all agree that here. He's in the basket. Yeah, that's right. He's in the basket with some other people. I don't want to keep talking about him. Also, what are you doing? Even if you look at the characters... What did you think we'd side with you?

What did you even bring this to us? I'm even willing. willing to go. If you take 1999 Brendan Fraser and then pick whatever era of Tom Cruise you think is sexiest Brendan and Fraser is still sexier. And the heads and shoulders. He's and toes above Tom Cruise. Yeah.

Yeah. It's not even a height thing. It's not a height thing, but it also is a height thing. It's part of it. It's not the only thing. You could take away the height, it wouldn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. Anyway, you know what though? Good on you for having a stupid opinion

in standing by it. Because that's my entire life. That's what we do. here we have stupid opinions but here's the thing, luckily for us if we have a stupid opinion, we can change it in weeks to come and in a new podcast you've had this one opportunity Jack and you've thrown

this insane opinion out and this is going to go on the weekly planet Wiki guy who thought that Tom Cruise was sexier than Brendan Fraser that's just that's your one entry in there absolutely ridiculous madness but in a way legendary

you got to respect it you got to respect it Mason is from Sean Jack Wheeler is his full name There we go From England When we put this in the wiki It's going in

Well we won't Somebody will Somebody will do it Sean Doyle says Have either of you gotten into model making Just getting into it now It's quite peaceful Are you a model making kid or man

No when I was a kid I would occasionally get Like those snap together models Sure A snap together Gundam Put the stickers on us etc Yes I um Because my brother built model playing, specifically like...

The one I like. Exactly. World War II stuff. And I was like, man, me, my car's model guy. The one I don't like, we would just be mushing play there together. Yeah, that's right. And I make the model of a car and I'd be like, I don't like this. I should have done Star Wars stuff.

Yeah. I still have a model of like the Millennium Falcon from like 1998, which I haven't put together. I'm like one day, but realistically, I'm never going to do it. The plastic's probably degraded at this point. No, if anything, it's probably worth a lot of money. Yeah. For sure. Especially after I put it together perfectly.

Yes. Yeah. Then one of my kids smashes it. See, the problem is that we grew up in the era where Transformers existed. Yeah. So what am I going to make my own little car? Yeah. And matchsticks or whatever.

And then it's stuck in that form. Or am I going to buy a thing that's already a car, but then it turns into a robot? Exactly. It's crazy. We can get models of Transformers, etc. Or Lego of Transformers, etc. Yeah. Like Sun has an Optimus primal and you had to put it together with a snap.

together like it's a model but it's also does it transform it doesn't transform and isn't that interesting and we're talking about it this is how it makes the news did you reveal that to him when he finally finished it I bought it and I didn't even know but then how do we transform this dad that's the neat part you know

this is we're teaching about disappointments this one's going up on the shelf and we're not touching it yeah this one's going up in dad's study you can't look at it I'm going to angle it specifically so you can't see it from from your perspective that is correct that's right yeah so it snapped together gungdoms smack together gungans

smack them together smack those gungans together smack those gungans that's my new sign off for this podcast smack those gungans got another one mason I got one more email jam

this is from Morgan hello chaps chaps we're getting a lot of people who would probably build some sort of smashing machine you might be right a long time listening here

thanks for all the great laughs over the years can't tell you the amount of times I've gotten funny looks in public because I'm chuckling along to you both I feel like I'm in a bit of a crossroads in my life regarding my career I'm very fortunate to have a stable 9 to 5, which is a clear path for progression.

I've worked in the service industry and done shift work, so I try never to take what I have for granted. That being said, I dislike my job and just working in general, but I can't really think of another career I'd rather be doing. When I was a kid, I wanted to be a football player or a spaceman, but then as I grew older, I never really picked a profession career that I aspired to do. I think the problem is you kind of, you probably want to be one or the other and you couldn't decide to. Yeah, yeah, one's on the ground. Should have stuck the one. And one cannot stand being on the ground. Can't be on the ground.

That's right. I mean, both of them, you know, they're both flying high and jumping. Yeah, you can't, I'm a spaceman can jump. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The only dream job I could think of now would be to basketball player, but I'm painfully average at the sport. So my question is, what did you imagine you would be doing when you were younger?

What do you think the younger version of you would think of your careers now? My younger version would be like, that's awesome. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But for me, I'm like, it's all right.

No, I do think it's awesome. I really like doing this. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to be an artist. And then somebody said to me There's no money in art And I went, oh I remember so I wrote a little short story

In like prep or something like that Which is the grade before grade one And I think one of my teachers was like Well, no money in art No money in writing And I'm like, well Yeah, you're an idiot Why'd you do this?

But when I was a kid I wanted to be a private detective Yeah, that's cool I think because I'd see Dick Tracy No, I'd seen Magnum P.I At my grandparents' house And he shot that nun and you were like That could be me

Yeah Well, because what he was doing He was driving a for Ferrari around Hawaii, and he would solve mysteries, but he didn't seem to have to follow any of the rules that the police did. No, yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's cool mustache. He had a mustache.

He had mates. He did have mates. He did have mates. And he was kind of a mooch. It wasn't even his car. No, man, how did he do that? You could do that. You could be a mooch.

I could be a mooch. I've said this before, I think on a movie commentary or something like that, but I was speaking to a friend of mine about, you know, what you wanted to be a kid? And as a kid, what did you want to be as an adult? and I said I'd want to be a private detective and she said I know a friend of mine who was a private detective and also owned a pie face

Oh you have talked about this Yeah Which I just I just That to me is the funniest combination of jobs in the world For people that know a pie face It's a franchise It's a franchise that used to be

24 7 savory pies Whatever you want Fast food pies And they went through this massive period of expansion Huge growth Huge potential, I would say. There was like, you could be in a pie face and look out the window down the street and you could see another pie face.

That's right. And then they all collapsed. Because I guess not everybody wants a steak and kidney pie at 3am on a Tuesday in the CBD. How many times you even eat in a pie, you know, a week? I do love a pie. I know you like a pie, but are you doing one a day? No, exactly. That's what I'm telling.

But also, I love the idea. Obviously, obviously, James. Obviously. This guy was a guy who owned a pie. face franchise he had a staff to work on it and he had a little bit of spare time and money and he's like I'll get a private investigator license and then I'll do some some you know do some cases or whatever yeah you know I'll do the which is another reason you don't you don't become a private investigator as an adult because it's not driving around in Ferrari or whatever it's just sitting

in an old car that's not a Ferrari just like watching take waiting for hours to take a photo of somebody cheating on their spouse and then everybody hates you but anyway yeah you just This guy clearly had a little bit of free time and he's like, I'm going to become a PI. That'll be a bit of fun. But in my heart, I like to think that he hated being a private investigator, but he was just like he was just Sherlock Holmes.

He was so good at it. And he just used that to... People kept coming to him. Yeah, keep coming from all around the world to solve cases and he used that money to prop up his failing pie face, which is his real passion. What do you think that person is doing right now? Probably working at a pie face.

They still around? They're in service stations. So working at a service station Yeah Which has a pie face Correct I worked at a server station Do you have a pie face?

No, I just had a tray of pies Not as good I'm with you man Yeah Pieface pies were really good I don't even remember having one That was so good Yeah I don't weren't that good

I think that were very good I've never had one I also Of course you haven't had No I've talked about this It's a I did a business degree Well we both did Of those something similar

Financy kind of degrees And I was very bad at it And I hated it And I hated it and then I went into teaching because I'm like, I'm going to do something where I don't kill myself.

Sure. And I haven't. So true. So true. But you can pivot. You want to, you're like, oh yeah,

I don't know. It's easy to say. So we did. Also, there was also nothing wrong with doing a job, showing up, doing the bare minimum,

and then having a, like, a rich life outside of that. Exactly. That's totally, like, awesome, I think. Yeah.

You know, man? I know. And your hobbies are whatever, skimming rocks and shit. I don't know. I don't know. a real person's doing like a normal person you know well you don't know but you you don't know but you actually inadvertently nailed it all normal people are skimming rocks all day i'm good at skimming rocks

actually i'm one of the best i don't know if you know that about me how many skips you get how many yeah how many do you want 15 easy done wow yeah i said you a video okay won't be a generated is it is it till is it you and tilly norwood skimming rocks mason i will say this she's underage i think i wouldn't hang out with her i don't know what's i don't it's too risk I don't want to be associated with any of that. It's weird. It's a name that I've remembered. Having only heard it like twice this week.

I'm like, Tilly Norwood, aren't? It feels like a fake-ass name. Yeah, does. I got this from Michael McCall who says, do Spotify ads, even the ones that you actually record, give you money. I tried not to not skip them when listening,

but is it just giving Spotify to cash to Spotify, fuck him? You can skip any of them, and it's fine. Absolutely. There are ads, I don't, where there are ads that are ads that are. Spotify. I don't know how you could tell on the part. I don't listen to this on Spotify. But you don't, just skip all of them. We don't, we don't mind at all. You just have the best experience for you.

Best, have the best time of your life. Yeah. If you're skipping a stone. But no, Spotify don't give us any money. But I would take a huge check from them. Did you also? Yes. Definitely. If they're like, if they're like, do you want all this money, no strings attached? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. But no, they give all our money to other people. Char Rogan. Yeah. and among others I assume

Is that the show? That is the whole show Wow, we've done it Wow Wow, wow Wow Wow, a late appearance from Mr.

They go I'm not sure what you're saying You know, he's in stuff Christopher Reeve No, but you're close Wow What are you doing? What is this?

Wow, I don't know I'm not doing anything He's here You could go with this And I could go with that Yes But I don't know what you're doing Oh, what's his name?

Yeah, I know, it's crazy. Christopher Walken. I don't know, man. He's here? Is he? Yeah. I don't know who that is. Come on, man.

It's like a pie face. I've never experienced it. Come on, man. Mason, one of my favorite things is to see you twist in the wind. And I love twisting. What do you call me Chuck Berry? Because I'm always twisting. And marry your cousin or whatever he did.

That's right. Oh, Mason. How do you wrap up the show? I wrap up the show. What's your process? My process. Yeah. You know, I love talking about it.

process. Just to be clear, this isn't me wrapping up the show. I'm going to talk about my process and then we'll wrap up the show. That sounds great. Okay, so what I do first is I say folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast. It's good to get some insight into your process. Pretty good process, right? And then thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcast app of choice. If you do so, James, we'll read it out on the podcast. And then I wait. Yeah. And then that's your cue. Yeah. So I'm going to read them now. But these are just examples of something that I would read. I'll read the real ones when you actually

do it. Which will be after this. Yes, that's right. This one's from postburnout.com from Ireland who says, not cook blokes. I've been listening to James and Mesa's podcast for years and they're such top blokes that James is going to read a ad free, a free ad for my website where I interview burnt out artists on their craft. Cheers, boys. Now, that was a fake one? It's a fake one. So I'm not. You made that with AI. You burned a rainforest. That's right. You got another one? I do actually. I burnt a second rainforest. Okay, good. It's from Chris C. I'm not where Chris is from. Nowhere, because it's made up.

Excellent podcast, one of the most consistent pods from the humble beginnings of the regular room to the man cave to the studio. Wow. That's great. Powerful stuff. And then my process is usually... What would you do next? My process usually is that I forget where we're going.

That's right. You take a beat, don't you? I take a beat. And I also can't help you either. And it's not me like not being helpful, like the Christopher Walken thing. I don't actually know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I think after that, I say... Something about a T-shirt, maybe? No, t-shirts is later, I'm pretty sure. If you want to contact the show, no, we did that. Yes, no, it is, yes, it is that. Is it? Okay. You want to contact the show, you've got to weekly planet pod.

That's what I say. I say, weekly planet pod at gmail.com. That's right. You can also go to the Planet Broadcasting Greatmates Facebook group. We love it. And the weekly planet podcast, subreddit and Discord for Fun, Civil Chats about podcasts and pop culture. Then I'm contractually obligated to mention the mods of that, the admins of that forum. So that's Fidel and Maisie and Sarabi.

Yeah, great stuff, honestly. And I mentioned that they also make videos for the, The Weekly Planet TikTok and the Weekly Planet Clips channel on YouTube. Yeah. Then I would probably mention that if you want to follow some people on the socials, you should follow Rob Collings. God, this is interesting. He's at Rob Collings on Twitter.

He's at The Weekly Planet on Twitter. Yeah. And then I would say follow us on social media. I'm Wikipedia Brown on Twitter. Instagram. I'm Nick Mesa. James, you're Mr. Sunday movies everywhere. I have to be.

And then sometimes you go everywhere. I do say that sometimes. Because this is just a dry run. This is a dry run. Yeah. And then I would say if you want to support. support the show, you go to patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday movies, chuck in a bucket

or amount you're going to all miss. Or you go to big sandwich dot co for nine U.S. dollars per month, bonus podcasts, early videos, video game, let's play, movie commentaries, all sorts of stuff. There's like a Superman commentary I might say this week. That's something, for example, I might say that. Then I might say, as part of my process,

we sell t-shirts at t-public.com or somebody does anyway. You search for the weekly planet or weekly planet posters. And I would say, thank you to the boot and the bass list, and rack them for all the musical themes. Happy times. And then I would say, then I would,

the final part of the process is I would say next week we're going to cover a different thing. We will probably, yeah. Which in this instance might be Tron Ares. It might be. But it's not always Tron Ares. It's obviously whatever.

Anyway, folks, thanks for listening to the show. We absolutely appreciate it. I don't think people care. At this point, nobody's listening. Well, sometimes people listen because we lose our minds towards the end. It is true. It depends on the week.

Yeah, it depends how late it gets. But thank you. Thanks to that my lanter. I'm very calm. now. Dude. So nothing is... One of the most

calming fruits you can have. I think it was a very calming fruit. Yeah, cool. All right, everyone, thank you so much. Grabbed our gemmy, guys. We'll see you next week. You're looking forward to Tron?

Yes. You're looking forward to standing next to a cartoon, a cardboard Jared Letto and getting a photo. Yes, absolutely. Posting it online and saying hashtag, I believe Jared Ledererner. I'm not going to do that at all. I'm not going to.

I would believe anything he says. It's totally optional for you to do that. I would stand next to a cardboard card out of Jared Letto and hashtag, I wouldn't trust. him as far as I could throw him. Even in a digital realm. Sure. You know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, bye. Bye. Smack those Gungans.