The Weekly Planet - 596 Tron: Ares & Peacemaker S2 Finale!

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Big movie alert! It’s about that time again, when Disney dusts off the Tron series in the hope of striking box office gold!  We talk that plus the ending of Peacemaker Season 2 and its lin...ks to the DCU, The Smashing Machine losing money, budget cuts for the Fast & Furious franchise, Amazon do a bizarre thing with James Bond, Predator: Badlands gets a PG13 rating plus trailers for Plubibus, The Witcher Season 4 and Mercy. Thanks for listening!New bonus alert! New episode of James & Maso's Time Crapsule podcast is available now on bigsandwich.co plus last week's big movie commentary for Superman 2025.PLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:58 Peacemaker S2 Finale (Spoilers)22:40 Big Changes for Fast & Furious Movie31:02 James Bond Gone Woke? Not Really.37:30 Predator: Badlands Surprise Age Rating39:04 Pluribus New Series Trailer43:21 The Witcher S4 Trailer44:49 Mercy: Dead Wife Detective Simulator Trailer48:35 TRON: Ares Movie Review01:05:08 TRON: Ares Spoiler Segment01:17:16 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:24:23 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On October 17th, I'm an angel, see the wings? Don't miss the new comedy Good Fortune, starring Seth Rogen, Aziz Ansari, and Keanu Reeves, critics rave, it's haven't sent. Do you have a budget, guardian angel? Kind of. You were very unhelpful. Good fortune, directed by Aziz Ansari. The weekly planet, the weekly planet. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the weekly planets where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
Starting point is 00:00:25 My name is James also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me as always is my co-host. Is that you? It's me. What are you doing here? Surprise! Whoa! Surprise, MFA. You're in trouble.
Starting point is 00:00:35 You don't need to talk about that to me. You're an arrest for all your crimes. I didn't do any crimes and you can't prove it. I can with AI. And then you have to prove that you didn't do crimes, but you have it also have access to the AI. Can I use the system? You can use the system, yes. All right, so in this situation, we're talking about the movie.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Go on, you can do it. No, no, don't look it up. He's looking it up. It's called Match or Watch Your Watch. your time to look. Nope. It's called wife crime murder simulator. It's one word.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I know. Yeah. Watch, look. No. No. Look around. No, that's two words. You're getting cold.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Birding. Birding? What's birding? It's like looking for birds, man. I don't know. Look, have a see. Mercy. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yes. Okay. We're going to talk about the trailer for mercy. You weren't going to talk about. It's not the only thing I'm going to talk about, though. We're going to talk about the peacemaker's season. finale.
Starting point is 00:01:29 That's right. How much money The Smashing Machine lost. Oh, so much. Yeah, we're going to talk about a budget cut for the next Fast and Furious movie. Oh, so much. We're going to talk about James Bond
Starting point is 00:01:39 gone woke question. What? Is this new? Yeah. Is he gone woke again? Yeah. Because I remember when he went blonde. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Is it similar? No, it's different. No, because at this point, almost anything is he's gone woke. I know. Yeah. This one I don't actually disagree with this. He's just a different gun.
Starting point is 00:01:55 He's gone woke. It's fine. He's gun related. We're going to talk about the rating for Predator Badlands. Badlands? No, it's Badlands. Okay. Trailers for The Witcher Season 4 and Dead Wife's Detective Simulator. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Mercy. Which reminds me you have until we get to that to prove your innocence using it. But I have to do the podcast. How am I supposed to look on TVs and stuff? You got all the screens. You do it like Chris Pratt does. You've got a million screens going on. Zoom in, enhance.
Starting point is 00:02:19 That's right. Did I do the crime or not? Tell me, computer. AI, number one. Entry point. Camera time. Yeah, hell yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:02:27 Yes. Hell yeah. right movies. You're doing all the right things. Thank you. So, so there's time goes below, Rob Collings. Because if you do want to skip to Tron Ares, which is the big movie of the week. Big movie!
Starting point is 00:02:40 Why are you laughing like that, James? I just love the idea of big movie. Yeah, it's good, isn't it? It is good to have big movie. Yeah. Because there's, you know, we can imagine a future where maybe they don't do big movie anymore. I can't imagine that future. And don't put that in my mind.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I wouldn't dare imagine that. I'm not going to see it anyway because I'm going to go to jail for a crime or something that I did or didn't do. That's correct. Yeah. At least I don't have to talk about Tron. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Is that a preview of your thoughts on Tron? No, not really, actually. I got Trom thoughts. Anyway, let's talk about the peacemaker season finale. Oh, we're doing that straight up. All right. I think we should. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Spoilers for the whole season, I guess. I was going to say for upcoming DCU stuff, but I don't really think there's the, there's not the big hook that I think. people were looking for in this yeah yeah yeah i mean james at spoiler time we're talking spoiler time yeah yeah i mean the i think that the even minutes before going into this this season finale i went on twitter and i'm like i looked up peacemaker finale and i'm like i wonder what people are talking about and people like here's what we're going to have and they you know photos of stuff they're expecting right now booster gold blue beetle batman batman batman's friend some sort of evil
Starting point is 00:03:56 superman again evil superman again you know And I think, or even, you know, something we talked about in previous weeks, maybe GI Robot shows up and kills ever be able to Nazi world. I mean, why are you even bringing in a fucking Nazi killer robot? I mean, this was an episode, the finale to the show was an episode that was, there was a lot of dramatic closure, like emotional closure. I think all of that stuff really worked as well. I think I love that team. You know, they become checkmate, which is in the comics is like a spinoff of task force. X. I think it's, yeah, it's
Starting point is 00:04:30 under that brand. What are they called? I guess. No, the Suicide Squad game. They are Task Force X. Yeah, it's a spinoff of that, I believe, in the comics. I believe so. Is it not? I don't think it is. I think it is. All right, then. Maybe in the current continuity it is. Yeah. I'm sure
Starting point is 00:04:46 it. Okay. I think they're separate intelligence. Oh, there's a character called Checkmate, but it's also a government intelligent agency. Yes, correct. It's established by Amanda Waller. An independent branch of Task Force, X. I think that's a, I think that's a new worth. that's a new continuity thing back in the day they were just separate organisations from 88 no i know the the the the whole we turning this into a video because this is going to be
Starting point is 00:05:08 this is this is this is this is hit a store the the i'm sure this was the i that's what i knew it was the comic books was founded was started in 1988 but in the original version they were just a separate intelligence agency i'm fairly confident okay well that's what they're doing here anyway but back in but also the organization the comic books it's more It's a much larger organization. And the group is headed up by two kings and two queens who have like equal operational kind of weight and they can debate over how they use the particular resources.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And they've got like knights who are like armoured suit guys. Well, that's not this at all. No, no, no, no. Yeah. I thought it was just a branch of losers. And of course, well, I mean, also they do have like a bunch of low level employees called pawns. And it's like, come on, man, what are you doing? What are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:05:59 You may as well call them cannon fodder. Yeah. Hey man, I've started working for checkmate. I'm a pawn. Great. That is great. But in this it seems to be more like an independent... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's more of an independent kind of investigative company or independent... Help you out system. Help you out system, yeah. Oh, shit. I got to go. Okay. James, there was a brief pause in recording. You had to do a thing.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah. An administrative thing. And I just want to apologize unreservedly. Amanda Waller did found Checkmate. That's okay. I don't think that's big of you. I don't think it is okay. also like I don't really know
Starting point is 00:06:30 that. It's just something I heard maybe at one point. Oh, you heard it? Yeah. Everyone's talking about it. Wow. I don't know if every, I mean, everybody is talking about this episode. I had a quick quiz at the old at the old social medias. I went online. Can I just ask you why did you do that? I don't know. I don't, it's a mistake. Twitter did you
Starting point is 00:06:46 say? It's always a mistake and the plan of broadcasting great mates. Facebook group. Some people are saying in there actually. Some people are saying something we just said, which is, you know, emotionally, this must stop emotionally landing, but also people are saying, Where's Braniac? Where's Bronyac?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Strangely Paced episode, but also strangely paste season. I think it is. I think this is like a movie or three or four episodes. In a way, life is a movie. Yeah. I think the characters were like, man, life's a movie. By the end of this, they were like, life's a movie, you go to see a band. Well, it just, yeah, it does feel like a good excuse for James Gunn to just bring in bands that he likes.
Starting point is 00:07:19 There were two musical numbers of this. There were. Which is, well, they were good. Sure. But it's also, like, this felt like it could have been 10 minutes. This could have been an email. Yeah. It could have been 10, 15 minutes in addition to the previous episode,
Starting point is 00:07:31 which went for 27 minutes or whatever. But you've got to bear in mind, GI Robot killing everybody on a Nazi Earth would have been really expensive. Yeah. I mean, but, you know, just do nothing else. Just do nothing. Just fade to black title card.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah. Then GI Robot, Wendy killed everybody in the Nazi Earth. Just recast peacemaker with Liam Hemsworth. Take the budget out of it. That's right. We're going again. That's right. But for cheap.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Because John Sina, wants to stay too close to the original peacemaker comic books so we can't do that no we definitely can't yeah so anyway so there is a sequence where they're going and exploring other dimensions and seeing what's going on in there
Starting point is 00:08:11 our main guys are basically being used as canon fodder where those argus and Rick Flagg and those Lex Luther Flunkies that I hate so much having a great time aren't they just sniffing coke and laughing and while our guys are being sent
Starting point is 00:08:28 into the weird dimension where they get their face eaten off by little by little luboos or whatever yeah yeah I also think from those
Starting point is 00:08:35 kind of all those doors they entered that was the only one that was oh there was a zombie one I guess but a lot of that stuff we'd seen or wasn't that interesting like oh one's a black hole okay that's something I guess
Starting point is 00:08:46 so they do find one though which is seemingly this perfect un inhabited as in like there's no people or got running around in there which they're going to use as a prison for metahumans I thought it was going to be that Rick Flagg was being mind control because he does do a 180.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah, there is a moment in this, actually, this episode where I think someone, I can't remember what it is. I think it might be Harcourt. She says, General Flag, sorry, I mean Rick. Yeah. You told me to call you Rick and he's like, oh, yeah, whatever. And I'm like, is he from the Nazi earth? Yeah. Was there a switcheroo at some point?
Starting point is 00:09:22 And he's on the side of the bad guys. I mean, he is. Yeah. Is he brainiaced? Or is he? I don't know if he necessarily is but yeah they even they point out they're like huh you've changed you're different
Starting point is 00:09:31 but I mean his hair hasn't changed I just want to be clear we're going to take a moment for this I want to take up some of people's bandwidth incredible hair not just for a 60 year old man which he is yeah he is but just for any man any man incredible hair your hair is not dissimilar I know but he's got the projection on the front
Starting point is 00:09:48 you know what I mean it's coming out it's coming out and back and it's like damn how does he do that I mean professional hair and makeup sure I think even in real life Yeah. Like if you see him at a thing. Yeah. See him in a podcast.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And he thinks he's better than you, doesn't he? Yeah, he does, because he is. He's so fit for 60 because he's on the whatever's. Yeah, he's got on all that. Peptides. You've got on all those things. Hey. The vitamins.
Starting point is 00:10:09 He doesn't look at the moment like he's, you know, they get that weird bubble gut kind of and their neck kind of grows out. He hasn't got that going on. But anyway, so they're using, they're basically looking for a metahuman prison. Or not even so much. Well, a prison, but so much like just a place that. they can abandon metahumans. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And it's just like, it doesn't matter if they face justice. No. It doesn't matter if they, you know, serve time for their crimes. It's just they're not on earth anymore. Yeah. But is that the plan? Maybe there's a different plan. Yeah, potentially.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Because it's also we only ever say, there is, the, the, the Argus team have a, this enormous binder on this planet, about this planet, which is this huge, thick binder. Yeah. But we only see that one field. Yeah. And we hear something. Something's going on. Some kind of animals or not animals.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Yeah. But I don't... Is there... What's the DC equivalent of, like, the Savage Lands? Is there like... It's got to be, right? Yeah. Uh, well, hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Because there is... Because what you also have to do here is you have to get into the mindset of a James gun and be like, what kind of B to D list characters is he going to use in subsequent things, you know what I mean? What obscure bits of... There is, there was a series many years ago called Commandy, the Last Boy on Earth. Okay. And it's set in a future, like, where...
Starting point is 00:11:25 society's collapse and he's like a Tarzan kind of Tarzan, but the future. Exactly, and there's talking animals. Talking animals. So maybe that's this universe. Maybe it was microchips. But you'd be like,
Starting point is 00:11:37 wouldn't that be in the binder? Yeah, one boy and talking animals. One boy and talking animals, exactly. I'm like, because also like, my understanding is there's no plans for a season three of this. Apparently it's going to be worked into whatever the next movie, Superman movie is.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I mean, because Lex Luthor is coming back. It was in the season. All these minions are in. in this season. Oh, he's the worst. Otis is there. Otis made an appearance, yeah. But, yeah, also maybe he's,
Starting point is 00:12:02 because I know they hinted, I don't know if they have any hard plans, but his brother survives him in the other dimension. And maybe he comes looking for him and he's the one who finds him. You mean Peacemaker's brother, not James Gunn's brother, Sean Gunn. Well, there could be Sean Gunn because he plays Maxwell Lord Mason. He does play Maxwell. He does play Whistle Mason.
Starting point is 00:12:16 That's right. Yeah, because he has interdimensional access. And maybe he's the one who finds him. Yeah. Because also you, they cut out the middleman. now don't have to go into the room of doors to go to the door. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Mm. Mm. Um, we never figured out what happened to that, what the deal was with that alien guy. Oh, yeah. It was always burning cats. Yeah. Or rats or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 What's his deal? I saw people like, maybe he's like the janitor on Brainiac ship. Well, like, maybe he's, maybe it's nothing. Maybe he's like the janitor from season one of peacemaker. Oh, okay. Just around. Yeah. Maybe he's the janitor from scrubs.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Maybe he's the janitor from scrubs. Yeah, look, overall... And he's no Superman. No. That's why you need Superman. I think, yeah, I didn't love this season. I thought the first season was stronger. I think it felt a little too thin.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I think it had some really good character moments. There's a moment. Because you've been watching this week to week. Yeah. And some of the episodes are like 30 minutes longer. Yeah, and maybe that was the same for the last season, but it felt like it... I loved the overall idea of this parallel dimension and his family's in there and there's, and that I loved the conversation together with hardcore.
Starting point is 00:13:23 So you love that universe. Yeah. And you love that it's still a good. exist. No, wait a minute. I don't love that. Interesting. But, you know, that his dad is in there and his dad... His dad was in there. He's still in there. Yeah, he's still in there. What's left of him? How do you feel about the fact that he is a... He's not a Nazi and he doesn't agree with the Nazis, but he's perfectly happy to just be like... Well, I think also, and that's an extreme example. But... A small L. Liberal, if you will, just hanging out and there being like, well, what could I do? Yeah, well, I mean, I think that...
Starting point is 00:13:55 That is just a lot of people who just work in particular job. It's like, I know overall this is a bad thing, but I'm doing what I can with my limited range. My power suit that I can fly around and shoot lasers and machine guns out. He did kill like 40 cops. He did do that. He's doing some good. But a lot of people are like, well, wouldn't the Superman of this universe just take care of him if you tried to change anything? I don't think there is a Superman in this universe.
Starting point is 00:14:19 If there is, he's bad. Yeah. Like he's not. Also, I don't think they do that again because James Gunn just did Bizarro's Exactly, yeah. In Superman. So I don't think they're just going to be like, and there's another evil Superman.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah, totally. And, you know, there's a good chance that an alien arrived on Earth and they put him in a little experiment or whatever or kill them, you know? What would have been? Yeah. With the rats.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, he's an immigrant. So, yeah, what I was going to say, the conversation where Harcourt, Harcourt, Hard Court. Hard court, it is, yeah. Tries to get Peacemaker to come back. Food court. Food court. In the food court.
Starting point is 00:14:53 In the food court. where she's, you know, he's basically like, well, you know, trying to get her to admit that she likes him. Because we finally got the payoff to the idea of like, what happened on the boat. And they went and saw a rock and roll band. And they had a little kiss. Yeah. And it's wonderful. And he's like, well, do you have any feelings?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Do you love me? Tell me right now. That's right. Exactly. If you say, no, I'll kill myself. Girls love that, by the way. They do. Drama.
Starting point is 00:15:22 They love drama. But all that stuff works for me and all, you know, the conversation where it's, where he's like, you know, I'm a fuck up. Everything I touch is like, turns bad. Okay, James. Yeah. But what about the TV show? What about on the TV show? There we go.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yep. There it is. Well, this is good stuff, mate. It is all good stuff, yeah. But the fact that, you know, he gets told by, um, what's her name? Adabio? Atabio that, no, things went bad when you didn't listen to yourself. That's right.
Starting point is 00:15:49 When you really are. When you listened to your dad things went badly. When you listen to the suicide squad, things were badly. Yeah, exactly. Listen to your Nazi dad. Listen to Nazi dad. But the one in the Nazi dimension, not your actual Nazi dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:01 He's bad. I understand it's confusing, having two dads. Yeah. Who are the same dad. So, yeah, I think, I also understand why, like, maybe you don't want to introduce Brainiac because it's a TV show. Yes, absolutely. And I think Marvel are learning the lesson, or did learn the lesson that don't introduce
Starting point is 00:16:19 your big bad in the television series. Absolutely. a main player and then bring that character into a movie and people go, we don't know this. So maybe that's part of it as well. That being said, I don't think that's as a bigger problem as a lot of people are making it out. Like if you introduce Brainiac in,
Starting point is 00:16:36 if you introduced Brainiac in this, it's a, it's a piffling thing to do in the movie. It just be like, brainiac's here and then you show a two second clip from the show. Yeah. And be like, this is how we arrived. Like, it's fine. Or an expanded version of that.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Sure. Like a wider brainiac. Like a wide brainiac. Do you want robot brainiac or green guy brainiac? I... Because you can do both. Because sometimes robot brainiacs are... Being controlled by green brainiac.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah. I like robot brainiac. I like his big skull ship. I like that... What's the Superman comic? Is it Superman Unbound where he fights Brainiac? I think the movie's called Superman Unbound. Potentially, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah. So I don't know what the... I can't remember what the comics called, but he looks a lot like... It is Superman Unbound from 2013. Yeah, I love that story. And that movie I really enjoy as well. So, yeah, that's the Brainiac that I like.
Starting point is 00:17:28 But that also has Brainiac drones. Yeah, right, right, right. But yeah, all in all, undeniable. That they made this season. Yes. You're coming to me telling me this didn't happen? Nope. Good.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I wouldn't dream of it. That's... Unless it was a dream. Yeah. We both dreamt this dream. We both dream. Or maybe this is a dream. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 One of us is in a dream. Who's to say? I feel real. I also feel real. Yeah. God. We're not doing like a weird inception joint dream thing. I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:17:57 The entering the dream machine didn't end up in the hands of corporate espionage, but it ended up in the hands of podcasts. And it's just people dream and podcasts over and over again. A podcast within a podcast. Over and over again. Except sometimes you're going up the impossible stairs. Yeah, absolutely. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:15 We should move it along. That made a great YouTube clip, I think. I think so too. Anything else? Anything else we didn't cover in that? Bios still divorced. Yep. I liked that being like, hey, this is not a good fit for us.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, because I enjoy this espionage murder stuff. And you do dogs or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who else? I caught covered vigilante. He's doing his thing, isn't he? Yeah, he's fun.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad he, because he kind of, he didn't do a lot of vigilante stuff in the first few episodes, but the last week's episode, we got a double dose. We sure did. Yeah, he's a lot of fun. I've seen some complaints or people even ask him, like, Vigilante is different than the comics.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Uh-huh. Who cares? This is a character that people don't... James, let me... I know you... No, no, no, that's exactly the thing. I would say, like, because when I was a kid, I would pick up whatever comic was available at the time.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Well, I actually read things in order, continuity. Interesting. Yeah, it's important to me. That's for losers. But I would say, like, as a kid, I was as big a fan of vigilante as I was of any other C-list, you know, character. I was like, you know, interesting idea. He's got cool nunchucks, and there was a...
Starting point is 00:19:25 At one point he had a duo of villains called Cannon and Sabre, who were like an assassin team, but they were also a gay couple. And I'm like, I don't understand what's going on here, but you don't see this every day. That's like an eight-year-old. An assassin gay couple game in real life. Yeah, exactly. Down the shops or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Exactly right. But that character died legitimately in, like, 1983. And they brought him back once because he appeared in purgatory. Oh, okay. And they've since never brought him back. They've attempted it a number of times. They did like... Is there different people taking on the thing?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah, it is. Yeah. So, because the point of the character only ever really worked then, and it didn't really, and it still didn't really work. Because the premise of the character basically was he was a prosecutor, he was a district attorney, but it was that era when it's like, but everybody's getting off on a technicality. You know, all these, but we caught this murder of a red-headed, but somebody didn't check the right box. put him out of bail.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Exactly. And so he'd be like, well, I know I'm going to go and kill him all or whatever. But that, I mean, that never really wasn't it. And now you could, these days you can't be like, well, the thing about a lot of people is they're really getting off on technicalities all the time. They're not getting shot for holding a candy bar or whatever, you know, shot in the street.
Starting point is 00:20:40 So it doesn't really, so they brought him back like, they brought very. He does have that sense of justice, but it's more like this guy has autism. Yeah. And his special subject is killing people. Yeah. So they brought, they brought the vigilante back. as like the vigilante but he kills corporate villains
Starting point is 00:20:55 or like girl vigilante or you know and then they brought him his brother or whatever but it's Vigurly yeah exactly but they've he's been so he's been gone for so long is he going to healing factor in the comics sort of because some people have said that this version might also so
Starting point is 00:21:11 his bit was that it's one of those ones where he was like he learned a special mystical technique I did that yeah yeah and then he can heal and so even at the the time because he died because he killed himself yeah he shot himself in like the last issue let me just tell you that's fun yeah and some people were like even at the time we're like he's coming back though he's gonna come back because of his mystical skill from the orient or whatever you know what
Starting point is 00:21:36 mean but then he yeah mostly didn't but i what i'm saying is like there can't be that many fans of the original even if you love the original yeah the original's there and it's complete and there's no more to it yeah and in the present day a guy in a mask with a guy There's a lot of those. Yeah. So like... I would also even say that like peacemaker strays so far from the original character. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:59 A character that nobody cares about. Well, yeah. He's, I mean, again... He's the comedian. He's the comedian's been the more popular version of him for decades. It's only now. And also like, yeah, I mean, he's... The original peacemaker was very serious.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And then over the years, they've just kind of made him kind of dumber and dumber. Yeah. And a kind of a joke character. So it's really not that much of a... And again, he's a guy, he's like vigilante, he's a guy who shows up in like a battle sequence during an infinite crisis or whatever, just in the background because they need to fill up space and he's just firing some guns or whatever. Damn, maybe he's hitting the right people. Nah, he's not. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:22:36 No, he's hitting nuns and kids and stuff. Well, that's okay too. It's okay too because it's the Nazi world. Oh, is it? That's good then that's okay. You can shoot a Nazi nun. I agree, yeah. Well, we've done it.
Starting point is 00:22:46 We've done it. Please leave your thoughts on what you think of this show and in the comments below. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And tell us what you think of Tron Air is while you're here That's what please do I'm interested Mason
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Starting point is 00:23:15 It was on the weekly planet Reddit Oh yes It's on Instagram I am going to find it Oh try on video I remember this. Oh, yeah. We did that, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:23:24 The movie Tron, yeah. And Tron, too. Tron, too. Where the fuck is this? Collings help. Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah. Oh, here it is.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Oh, yes. Grand animation from John F. Quirk. On Instagram, have you seen this? Yeah, I've seen it. Okay, I was going to show you, but I don't want to show it to you now. Yeah, that's right. I've seen things. Funny stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Anyways, it's going to lose. Marnie. Yeah, absolutely. Just like the smashing machine himself. Correct, is. But apparently between $10 and $15 million it will lose on its $50 million budget. The Rock, though, he went to Instagram.
Starting point is 00:23:53 He's making that a week. Come on, me. Exactly. What does he give a shit? Not on this, though. In our storytelling world, you can't control box office results. But what I realized you can control is your performance. And your commitment to completely disappear and go elsewhere and et cetera and so forth.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Thank you, everybody, for Benny Safty, et cetera. Apparently, also, he took a massive pay cut on this deadline of saying that he only took $4 million. So if he took his standard $20, this would have been a much bigger loss. Also, they wouldn't have made it. No, and they wouldn't have made it. I still think this is a massive win for him. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah, so I think there's no shame in him losing money on this and wasting his time on this movie. Correct. That's right. No, genuinely. I mean, we talked about it last week. You put himself out there and, you know, and that's hard to do. And this is, maybe this is step one, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yep. Step two is, another fast and furious movie plays. Hell yeah. Hobbs and Shaw, too. Or Hobbs and another guy, I don't know. If he is Hobbs, all sure. He's Hobbs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I'm Dom Hobbs or whatever Do you Dom Hobbs? Yeah I don't know I'm kitchen hobbs You know Yeah The things
Starting point is 00:25:00 The burners yeah Yeah Speaking you're fast and furious though Hell yeah Riddle me this Mason Go on When was the last Fast and Furious movie What year?
Starting point is 00:25:09 Okay we're in 2025 Correct That doesn't seem right does it No It's not this year You are correct 2023 2021
Starting point is 00:25:17 I know Did you know that I didn't fucking know that. What were we talking about it last week? That was the Jason Mamala one where he was just like a big genie. It was fun. Was it fun? He was fun.
Starting point is 00:25:28 He was fun. Yeah. There was that big ball in Rome? Big ball in Rome. Rome ball. Romb ball. It's time of Rome ball. Let's get ready to Rome ball.
Starting point is 00:25:37 One, two, three, Rom ball. No, let's get ready to Rome ball. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's two coax. Yep. Mason. Yeah. That movie cost $378 million.
Starting point is 00:25:53 That's too much. And it made $714. Okay. So what they're saying now, they're basically cutting the guts out of this movie. Cut the guts. The next one, they're taking like $120 million out of it or something like that.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Okay, sure, right. And it's, so the idea is that we're going to bring it back to what makes, well, they're saying like we're bringing it back to the streets. Yeah, yeah. What they're really saying is like, we cannot spend this much money on it. Because this is, this is, I've got a tweet here.
Starting point is 00:26:19 ending the franchise here is so effing funny says Sam on Twitter and there's four images and it's Dom driving down that dam while everything explodes right with his son in the car I think then the plane crashing because Alan Richardson blew up the plane
Starting point is 00:26:37 with everybody on every single person on it the rock is back in shadow and then Gal Gadot is a submarine captain so what they have to do here is they have to take these hanging plot threads and be like how do we
Starting point is 00:26:54 I'm fascinated by this you know as big time comic book fans and what have you I love the idea of like and really any anything like this of just like how do you take the threads that nobody thought about
Starting point is 00:27:08 that just throw them out there and be like and get the next guy to just kind of like your time jump you absolutely time jump six years by the time this comes out if it comes out in that time. So apparently the original script was $250 million,
Starting point is 00:27:22 which is still less than the other one. I don't know if that accounts for marketing, but Universal want to cut 20% out of that. They're going to want to cut 20% every year. Yeah, until it gets profitable again. But if they're not, if they don't get their ROI, or as I say, return on inventory. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Then it's not, um, someone's going to be like, someone's going to be like, I'm just thinking because I'm getting in a message. It's like, that's not what that means. Yeah, but that's what you see. said what I call it. So that's not wrong. That's correct. Okay, terrific. I didn't even know what I'm saying. I cannot remember. Until they get their return on inventory. That's right. Yeah. Of cars. Of cars. So, and but they're also talking about like, what do you do? You do less
Starting point is 00:28:02 locations. You do smaller stunts. Do you cut the cast back? They've talked, they said they're going to bring Brian back. Yeah. Which means they have to do that now. And that's an insane amount of money. It is. And to do it well. Yeah. You know. I say do it badly. That's actually perfect and that's cheaper too isn't it yeah and there is a difference obviously between the last time they did it because that was footage they'd already had you died mid production yeah and then they brought in his brothers and it's a whole situation and it's finishing a movie there's like a you know there was a there was a tax to that i guess and necessity but you don't have to do it now absolutely you don't but you said you did yeah because i mean you know we there there is plenty of movies
Starting point is 00:28:42 that do really great car chasers now dude there's 10 movies there's 10 movies at least I think you have to, I think you have to, when they say cut it down to what is important, I think they have to go, we need to do two really, really good car chases. Yeah. And just, and do them for real. Yes. And, and make people go, wow, you know, this, wow cars. Like the safe drag. Like the safe drag. Like the safe drag. Like, let's get ready to Romeball. Yes, that's right. Uno do I, Trey. Roanbo. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As they say. as they say I don't know
Starting point is 00:29:18 yeah because I mean if someone might be able to hear but my son's playing the Miles Morales Murala's video game next door
Starting point is 00:29:24 and he's going whoa he's having a great yeah yeah yeah yeah and he's in the costume and he's in the costume and everything else
Starting point is 00:29:31 no interesting interesting yeah I mean I think I think because the other thing to do is just
Starting point is 00:29:40 you got to I think they've got to strip out all the cartoon elements I agree yeah and they got like the submarine
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like the submarine or the I don't know Yeah I don't know yeah They got to cut out all the stuff We're spies on a mission Yeah Nah just
Starting point is 00:29:55 We gotta get the disc to shoot Fucking laser Yeah Yeah maybe Maybe do it like Charlie Theron's back Or did she die I don't know
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah Also John Cena died But obviously he didn't die But they can be like he died So they can be They don't have to They don't have to pay him Exactly yeah
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah So you need to I think they need to I think you're probably right They need to do An end game style time jump And it's just Like whoever they can afford to bring back
Starting point is 00:30:19 They're just in a, you know, in an underground room In an alley and they're like, well, we're the what's left I can't believe those holograms worked Exactly, exactly, but that was the last of the holograms So we can't do holograms anymore And they've got two cars and whatever And they're like And one hologram
Starting point is 00:30:35 One hologram, that's Brian That's right Help me Don Torretto For my only hope I guess if you give him a What? The holographic sheen Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't really make him a hologram
Starting point is 00:30:49 But he's alive in the movie He's alive in the movie, but he's on vacation And he's speaking to them through a hologram Yeah, you've got to, you've got to Yeah, I think you're right time jump And just be like, lucky we survived all that sort of stuff But now we've got to start again Let's not talk about it
Starting point is 00:31:04 We're going to steal some more cars And we've got to get back And we've got to defeat whoever the villain was Jason Mamaro Jason Mammao and Alan Richardson Yeah, exactly Well he's doing on TV shows So he'd probably come back, run around
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah, for sure Yeah, cool. All right, April 2027. Okay, if you say so, if you say so. Mason, Amazon, did you say that they put every Bond movie back on streaming? I didn't notice that because, like, usually in Australia, they're on Stan all the time. Yeah, they are on, they are on prime here, I believe. Are they, unless I had a VPN on, I don't know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Okay. But also, yes. In relation to this. Yes. They put out some character posts, isn't they? They did. They put out the classic character. The classic character
Starting point is 00:31:44 one post is of each of the bonds standing there imposingly charmingly holding their various firearms their wall for PPKs and so forth Unless I'm a fool Unless they've played me for a fool So what they've done They've done some
Starting point is 00:31:58 Is what they've done There's some key art Is that new segment is what they've done There's some key art of each Bond film And they're kind of a uniform Taking various images of the Bond actors From their movies And sometimes it's a head photoshopped onto a different box
Starting point is 00:32:13 from the same movie or whatever, but every one of them has a gun removed. Yes. And not all of them are images that initially had guns. Or you can crop out. Sometimes they added it in the gun and then they took it away again. Yeah. But then there's ones where it just like it looks like a guy's holding a gun,
Starting point is 00:32:29 but they've taken the gun out. So it just looks like he's showing off his watch or something. But he's also not wearing a watch. He's not wearing a watch. This is a classic Walt Disney takeaway. Yeah. I don't think this is necessary. I felt like it was filled up with emotion there,
Starting point is 00:32:41 but I was about to bel. Yeah, you love Walt Disney. isn't in. You can't wait until he comes back. That's right. I don't think this is censorship. I think this is them trying to get consistency across their system or whatever. Because in terms of like... Also, the 007 logo is on there.
Starting point is 00:32:59 They're like frigging garters it. That's what I mean. Also, this art looks like shit. Let's just say that also. It looks weird. It's bad. Like, why wouldn't you just... And what they've done now, actually, because I've opened it now.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah, yeah. Oh, you've opened it now. They don't have guns in any of these images, but they've just taken posters or key images from each movie. And it looks so much better. You would never look at it and this go, oh, they've taken the guns out. Like, I think the No Time to Die one, it's him and his kind of S special boat services outfit or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And I think he's holding a gun in that photo, but they've cropped it so you just can't see that. Yeah, but you wouldn't think anything of it. No. So. It's a shame we never got him in his dress whites, isn't it? I know. Put your dress whites on, Daniel Craford. Oh, I've been doing some research.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Oh, yeah. You know how the question we've always had is, does James Bond still work for the Navy or what? Yeah. Yes, he does. Which version? All of them. All the time.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So he's on, I did some research. He said he was a rat catcher, the new version. That's right. Because he's scurrying around. He's always scurrying around. Because, okay, for people that don't know. Yeah. I've got many thoughts, and I'm going to go on a bunch of tangents.
Starting point is 00:34:08 But you know how Bond's, his backstory, is he was in the Navy and then he retired from the Navy and he joined MI6. He sailed the 7-6. But whenever he goes on a Navy ship, they call him Commander Bond and he gets to do stuff. And he gets to put his little outfit on. So the question is, does he still work for the Navy on? I looked into it. He does still work for the Navy.
Starting point is 00:34:28 He's on secondment to MI6. So he's basically on long-term loan. Does that mean he's getting two paychecks? He's getting paid by the Navy, but I think his expense account is MI6. Oh, that's why he gets all the fancy stuff and whatever. fancy stuff. I'm pretty confident that's... I'd be going on that. Expense account. You'd be getting all the ham.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I'd get in so much ham. But I get the good ham. Call it up room, service. More ham, please. Free range, please. Yeah, free range ham. Yeah. That's why he gets to still do Navy stuff. Yeah. Yeah. The thing, I guess... That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So technically they could call him back. Yeah, okay. Well, they should. Yeah, they won't. Just to do paperwork. Because MI6 would be no. They'd be like, no, we need this guy to shoot a bunch of people. But so then he joined the double O program while he's in MI6. So that's an additional. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:12 A little credit he can put on his license. Yeah, exactly. Getting back to the guns. Oh, yes. I don't think it's a, if it's a censorship thing, like, it's for nobody. Yeah. Nobody's complaining about James Bond having a gun. I think, if anything, this might be like an internal office thing.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah. Like just whoever's doing the photoshopping is like, we've got to make these thumbnails and just somebody in the office went, take the guns out of it. Maybe take the guns out or whatever. And they went, okay, and now it's a whole thing. Because if you look around Amazon, on. There's guns on every
Starting point is 00:35:42 poster and image. The terminal list? Yeah, it's not like they're adverse to it, even. Chris Pratt's terminal list. Yeah, it's a good time. Time. Time. Time. Time. Terminal time. Terminal time. It's terminal time, boys. Crime time, all right? Yeah, that's right, that's right, boys. Anyway. Yeah, great. Really good
Starting point is 00:36:01 stuff. Great. Love a controversy. Oh, speaking off, this is my other diversion. You know how in the last couple of months or whatever. Yeah. We discovered you can't get any of the old John Wu films on streaming on DVD because of rights issues and blah blah because the right the company was a real estate company and you can't contact them or whatever but then a company called shout they they acquired the rights I guess they knew a guy
Starting point is 00:36:25 who knew a guy or something and so you can get them on you can some of them on DVD now some of them are subsequently being released they're all on toby now oh my god you can just get it for free but they have the shout logo on the front yeah so they're official but you can just get them. Why did they do that? I don't know. You can make money. I don't understand. I guess Tube would have played. They would pay them something, I guess. Does Tubi runs ads? Yes. Yeah, okay. I guess it's an ad. But some, depending on the version of the app you've got, sometimes they just forgets to play the ads. Yeah. You know, never gets to play the ads. Who's that? HBO Max. They'll play that goddamn ad. It's good how now you pay for streaming
Starting point is 00:36:58 services and then you pay for slightly more. Well, here's the thing. Because with HBO, we've only recently got HBO Max in Australia. And when I signed up, it's like basic with ads, standard. super HD, something, something. And so I got the middle one, which is HD and no ads. It still plays ads, but you can skip the ads. Oh, okay. Yeah. Like, scroll forward.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Now, there's a skip button. But it's like, this says no ads. You shouldn't be showing me ads at all. Nads. You shouldn't be showing me skippable ads. You should be not showing me any ads. Nads, thank you. It's good to pay and then have ads.
Starting point is 00:37:31 But yeah, if you've ever want to watch, if you haven't seen recently the killer or hard-boiled or a better tomorrow or bullet in the head or whatever, yeah uh city on fire which is not a uh is not a joamoo film not a good one but it's a good one they're all just on tv yeah okay so i don't i don't know how that happened mason it's it's time for more censorship if you can believe it oh boo predator badlands the upcoming predator movie uh by the way we're doing predator movies for caravan and garbage not this week yes because we did two tron episodes in one week nobody's fault it was actually
Starting point is 00:38:00 a gift to you the consumer it's a gift to the consumer and they're ad free if you skip the ads. Or if you're made for premium. Yeah. Or you simply turn your head away when they play the ads on YouTube. That's right. So Predator Badlands is a PG-13 rated Predator movie, which the last one was maybe AVP. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Interesting. The producer Ben Rosenblatt said it's because we don't have any humans in the movie and so we don't need to have any red blood. It maintains a series trademark violence via white blood from Android, synthetic green bloods from the yacht and various other blood colors from the monster and various other blood colors from the monster hunter by deck who's the protagonist I don't have any problem with this
Starting point is 00:38:38 I don't think it's going to affect the movie at all it still might not be good but I don't think this will be one yeah yeah from what we've seen from the trailers as well it is a violent movie agree yeah I mean they're dragging around half an android for a lot of this and if that was like dragging out half a bloke
Starting point is 00:38:52 then that would probably have to put a rating on that half a bloke warning dripping bloke drooping bloke oh so anyway That's in November. It's very soon, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. I'm really looking forward to that. I don't care what you say. Not about this, just in general. Yeah, no, I know. I know. That's why I was silent. I was just taking that all in.
Starting point is 00:39:15 When is this? November 7th. I'm just planning my next move. Bearing in mind, you don't care about anything I say. Trails are high. There was a trailer for Plubius. Pluribus. Correct.
Starting point is 00:39:26 It's the Vince Gilligan. It's the Vince Gilligan of TV shows. Vince Gillian? It's Gilligan. Like Gilligan. like gilligan's island where they played basketball against the Harlem globetrotters you're getting a little choked up there mason they never got off that island they never got off that island no they did they they latched all the um
Starting point is 00:39:46 dead bodies together and they floated away yeah no and then they came back to play robots played the Harlem globetrotters and they're like I remember I saw this a midday movie as a kid you would you need to know that 99% of the people listening to this do not know what you're talking about. There was a show, which I did, which was old when we were kids. It's called Gilligan's Island. It's about a bunch of people who get washed up on an island, and it's a comedy, right? Gilligan was one of the people washed up.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I don't know why he got ownership of the island, but he did. They didn't call it the Professor's Island, didn't they? Mary Ann's Island. So that people would come and go from the island seemingly. I remember one time a guy surfed a giant wave there. Yeah, nice. It did surfed a giant wave out. Was it the Joker?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, it was the Joker. But anyway, they eventually got up Because they latched all their houses together Bodies together And they floated away But then I remember watching a TV movie This is not a show I even really watch As a kid where they had the Harlem Globetrotters
Starting point is 00:40:42 Play a basketball Playing Robot team And they're like The robot team keeps beating the Harlem Globetrotters And then they're like Why don't they use all their Harlem Globetrotters tricks Nice And then spinning the ball on their finger on their finger
Starting point is 00:40:55 On their finger on their lap Going do do do do do do do do do do And hence, they managed to win and got off the island again. I don't know. Do you remember that Get Smart movie where Maxwell Smart drove his desk around? Yes, I do actually.
Starting point is 00:41:11 The desk mobile? Yeah, you're not talking about the Steve Corral version. No, heaven's not. Hell of a movie. Anyway. Rock's in that. He's a bad guy. Vince Gilligan created Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.
Starting point is 00:41:22 But he's got a new show called Pluribus, which we just watched the trailer for. Because there's been a bunch of teasers and it's like, what is this even? And it seems to be, is it something has afflicted everybody in the world? The synopsis, the most miserable person on earth must save the world from happiness. So maybe there's a drug or a mind thing that makes everybody... Because this woman, who is the protagonist of this show,
Starting point is 00:41:46 she's being spoken to directly by what seems to be the president on a press conference, and he is suggesting there is something wrong with her because she is not doing what everybody else is doing, Yeah. Which seems to be just being mindlessly happy and consuming James because they're all leaving the shops having consumed. It is. It's a virus.
Starting point is 00:42:06 A new virus that turns suffer with perpetually content and optimistic. Bloody sign me up, man. Bloody sign me up. No social distancing there. Oh, hell yeah, brother. That's right. Mate, I tell you, I've got a magical drug that makes you happy all the time. It's going to the bloody greyhounds.
Starting point is 00:42:21 You know what, Mason? I'd miss waking up at two in the morning and being like, God, I hate managing my son's basketball team. Not doing the coaching, the managing, like the logistical shit. Fucking nightmare. Well, you've got to select a suit and tie every day and stand on the sidelines with the newspaper screaming. I had to sign a stat deck to do this.
Starting point is 00:42:44 What the fuck is that even for? I've been working with children's check. I'm a registered fucking teacher. And they got me doing paper. I don't know, maybe. You're going to pay that every year? What's going on? Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Okay, well. Yeah. Before I didn't. I can't remember. There's no way that's still valid. No, you can update it. You can choose to. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah. Anyway, no, it's fine. I love doing it. No, that's not true. But I am doing it. Anyway, when is this coming out? This is coming out. It says November 7th also.
Starting point is 00:43:13 November 7th. November 7th is gone off Predator Badlands and Pluberous. Well, yeah, that's my goodness. It's amazing. Anyway, there's probably why they're so bloody, incredibly happy because I've all seen the movie Predator Badlands. I would say that is almost certainly true. And they've gone down the dogies.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I would say that's almost certainly true. I don't actually bet on greyhound racing I don't think they should do that because they took it away I think they did not I probably did that's why there's so many stray greyhands yeah also it's hard to find really really tiny jockeys
Starting point is 00:43:38 the Witcher season four Mace No it's not I don't think it is That got a trailer Uh huh People aren't as someone who hasn't kept up with the Witcher People are not loving this Who were fans of the Witcher
Starting point is 00:43:52 Wasn't there just a trailer a little while That was a clip of him fighting a ghoul It was a clip of him fighting a ghoul. And there is a moment in this where he says, let's fucking go. And people are like, that is not in the spirit of garage. I did see,
Starting point is 00:44:01 I didn't watch the trailer. I'll be honest with you, but I did see, I did see a comment on Twitter where somebody was like, the witcher would never say that. Well, he did. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:10 This is a new witcher. This isn't your grandma's witcher. That's right. Who's Henry Cavill or whatever. I don't care at all. But also, this has never been a great show to me, and this is not going to get me back in. But people, though,
Starting point is 00:44:22 to be fair, aren't like, we hate Liam Hemsworth. But they're like, doing what he can. That's right. Doing what he can in the show that we all hate. That's the tagline of the show now. He's doing what he can.
Starting point is 00:44:30 With the show that we all have. We hate the show. We're with you. You think we don't know? We know. Yeah. We tried to make something that you like and you don't like it, so we're just doing whatever now. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah. Anyway. Why don't you try? Yeah. We've left the wig and the armor in a pile behind the off of the studio. A tall sword. And you can just come in and mate your own, whatever. You're never going to get it.
Starting point is 00:44:54 when this is out. November 7? October 30th, so a week before. Yeah, right in time for Halloween, which, in my opinion, is the spookiest time of the year. My goodness. And I'm not just talking about tax time. You're talking about Halloween.
Starting point is 00:45:05 That's right. We also got a trailer for Mercy, what I call it, dead wife detective simulator. That's right. So Chris Pratt wakes up in a room. He's bound to a chair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:15 And he's been accused of murder by AI, but luckily they let him mount his own defense using AI. Yeah. And looking at all the cameras and whatever. But here's the thing, James. He invented this. Yeah. What's he even doing there?
Starting point is 00:45:27 This is like a minority report, but not as good. Not as good, but it's trendier, isn't it? It's way trendier. Trendier. Wooden balls that tell you who a murderer is? Come on. That's not trendy? No.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Dude. TikTok should tell you. Pool full of bald people predicting the future. Chat, GPT, should tell you you've done a murder. Then you go to jail for it. And then you have to mount your defense in the runtime of the movie or whatever. Grock can be a defense attorney. Grock, Grock, is this true?
Starting point is 00:45:53 Yes, you did a murder. Oh, no. GROC is in the courtroom with a black gown and the little wig. I'm GROC. Detective GROC? No. Defense attorney GROC. Barrister GROC?
Starting point is 00:46:05 That's a show. That's exactly right. That's a narrative show. My learned colleague, Sora, has come up with this simulation of you doing the murder, so I guess you've done it. Yeah, that's right. This is, I didn't know this, but I just looked it up. This is Timur Bikmanbatov. Did he do, don't tell me?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yes, he did. Nightwatch. He did. A watch. Wanted? He did do want it. Did he do wanted. You're good, Mason.
Starting point is 00:46:28 He got a lot of good ideas. That's why you're one of the best. You also did the Ben Hur remake from 2016. Don't remember that at all. And the Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunting movie. Oh, my God. This, okay. Is that why I've seen clips of that recently?
Starting point is 00:46:41 I've seen clips of it. Maybe. This makes sense to me now. I just want to confirm something and I'm going to come at you with this. Okay. An accusation? His name is on that Ice Cube movie, War of the World. Timur.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Yeah, but he's not the director. He's a producer. Because this is that also. Looking at a screen and figuring something out. Yeah, get a guy in a room and then have screens around him. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:05 God. I still haven't watched that yet. We debated whether we do the War of the Words movie leading up to that. And then we're like, by the time we get to it, no one's going to care. So we will come back to it. Yeah, yeah. But people, instant, like it was a week of people going, have you seen this freaking thing? Yeah, it was just nothing.
Starting point is 00:47:19 It was gone. So, anyway. But we'll probably come back to it. I don't. Oh, I don't, it's good. Who's in it? I was going to be a good cast somewhat. Who are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:47:29 This movie, Mercy. Oh, yeah. Did a wife detective simulator. A lady. What's her name? She's great. She's in Mission Impossible. Rebecca Stamos.
Starting point is 00:47:38 No, they got divorced. Yes. Who was it? Rebecca Ferguson. They didn't get divorced, did they? Yeah. So this will be out in January. And some people say that's the cinema graveyard, but.
Starting point is 00:47:49 But I say this is probably not getting, this isn't getting a cinema release, surely. Let me just Google. Isn't this director something? The toilet? Isn't it direct to the toilet? It does feel like an Amazon something, something, etc. It just says we'll be released in the United States on January 2023. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:05 So. Direct to the toilet? Maybe. But if it says... They would say the bathroom, wouldn't they? If it says in the United States, that says to me that this is a cinematic. Wow. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I don't know that for a fact, though. And it's time for another... Get your tickets now, folks. Yeah, don't miss out. Now, people, this is going to be no time for anybody, but it's time for James to pull. the podcast yet again to go do a task for a little bit. How many times have I done that this episode so far? If you had to guess.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Four. At least four. But this is going to be seamless because Rob Collins, he's so good at this. I'm going to come back. I'm not even going to be puffed or sweaty. Because I'll have a shower. It'd be funny if Rob Collings added in all that when you come back in the room and you're just like, ugh.
Starting point is 00:48:47 It's just every day. Bro. Bye, everyone. On October 17th, I'm an angel, see them wings? Don't miss the new comedy Good Fortune, starring Seth Rogen, Aziz Ansari, and Keanu Reeves, critics rave, it's haven't sent. Do you have a budget, guardian angel? Kind of. You were very unhelpful.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Good fortune, directed by Aziz Ansari. Tron Aries. It's time for Tron. Aries. Big movie loading. Big movie. Beep burp, burp, et cetera. Command prompt, Tron, Ares.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Good movie? I guess. There you go. On a budget, variety is saying $180 million. Okay, sure. Yeah, it could be worse. It's not great because it's a Tron movie and they generally aren't huge movies. They do okay.
Starting point is 00:49:36 They reckon in the US is going to make about 50 million, which is... Box office loading. Beep, bo, bo, 50. Failed, failed. 50 million's okay. If it has legs, they were... Legs loading, legs failed. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:49:52 It was going to be 45 initially. So it's a bit up on that. Internationally, it's going to make between 40 and 45 million. So just shy of $100 million as an opening. Not bad. Is that better than... I think it's about on par for what the last one would be. But their inflation, ticket pricing and whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Things have obviously changed. Whatever you look at it... Sometimes you have to pay an extra $10 for ScreenX, for example, which is what I did. Exactly. Which is when there's extra bits or sides. You've had one of those? Yes, maybe. Have I?
Starting point is 00:50:20 You'd know. Yeah, I'd probably haven't then. Yeah, I'd probably talk about it all the time. I'm pretty insufferable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, this was never going to be like a $200 million movie. Trump does not do that. Also, to get it out of the way, Jared Leto is the star of this.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah. But also, there are hundreds of other people involved in making this. And they're all bad. They're all bad people. They're all worse, if anything. Some of them might be. Jared Leto said, I will only make this movie if everybody else making it is worse than me. Yeah, so by comparison, I look less of a creak.
Starting point is 00:50:53 He's a real angel. Yeah, well, I'll talk about his performance and all of that, but I also want to acknowledge it. I said they would never bring the Tron Aries bike to Melbourne. And? They have brought it to Melbourne. I've heard multiple people, including Joel Dusha. I should have gone to the premiere, I guess.
Starting point is 00:51:07 The bike was there, saw on Dave Lee's Instagram. Did anybody get to sit on the bike? People got to sit on the bike, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't sit on that bike. I don't know. Because of all the other people that sat on the bike. That and, you know, the guy who rides the bike.
Starting point is 00:51:18 It's not his. Yeah, I know that, but I just don't want to be associated with that. Would you get on Jared? Orlando's bicycle? Absolutely not. Would you sit in a chair that he sat on? No.
Starting point is 00:51:27 No? He'd have a penny farthing. He probably would have a penny farthing. They've done that, light cycle penny farthing, surely. Surely. Back in the old,
Starting point is 00:51:35 olden days or whatever, even before original Tron. Feels like a family guy gag. Yeah. Trot, but penny farthings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got stuck in a calculator. An apicus.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I'm on a penny farthing. Look out, Peter. That's someone. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is all good stuff. What do you think the story was?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Oh, all right. Okay, so this is set after trial legacy. I would say maybe about 15 years. Yeah, give or take. But yeah, exactly. And I'll tell you this much, James. Future of NCOM. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Sam Flynn, former CEO of NCCOM for as much as five minutes, has stepped away from NCOM. He was like, I'm back. That's right. But now I'm gone. I'm gone in the wind. Oh, my motorcycle. or penny farming
Starting point is 00:52:25 But now The new CEO of NCOM is Greta Lee His character's name I can't remember But I might look up later And they've got a competing company On the other side It's Dillinger Systems And they're part of the same enterprise sort of
Starting point is 00:52:42 The boardroom Isn't there like a Is there some crossover there though? Are you talking about because of Toronto Legacy No I mean as in like Were they one company that's split? I don't think they are We'll talk about that in a minute
Starting point is 00:52:53 Look, there'll be a section of this which is just nitpicking Trond continuity or Trontenuity. Yeah, but we do that every time. We do that every time. I don't think it takes away from what I, my opinion, of the movie. I just think it's interesting to talk about. But anyway, Dillinger Systems is here, founded by Ed Dillinger, the villain from the first movie.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And whatever their corporate situation is, they have roughly equal custody of the lasers that suck you off into the computer. That's right. Except this time they suck you on, too. That's exactly right. I didn't think they'd bring back the laser that sucked you off, the literal one, but they'd... Into the computer.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Into the computer. Right. But, but this time around, the wonderful benevolent corporation Encom, they're using that to 3D print things like fruit trees in the real world and presumably life-saving medications and puppies and rainbows and pony rides and etc. Whereas the evil Dillinger systems, they're using it to print off things like tanks and soldiers and rad motorbikes. Yeah. But they both have the same problem, which is that anything you 3D print in the real world only lasts for 29 minutes. And then it disintegrates often quite painfully. So they're both on a mission to find a permanence code.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And once they get the permanence code, they can make anything they 3D print permanent forever. And Dillinger, Julian Dilligan, who's the new CEO, that's Evan Peters. He's got an ace in the hole, as it were. He's got Ares, who's a program he invented. played by Jared Lato And he's going to get that code He's going to go into computers He's going to the real world
Starting point is 00:54:27 He's going to get it no matter what Unless you change his mind Unless you change his mind Unless you let him think He was going to be the villain Originally in Tron 3 And they fleshed this character out This was a Jared Letto project
Starting point is 00:54:39 That's also why he's in it I talked about this before He's a huge fan of original Tron What did they do with the Killian Murphy character I guess he's Gillian Anderson's brother Yeah We'll get into that in the The continuity section, yes.
Starting point is 00:54:51 It's a reverse fish out of water Tron situation because normally you go into Tron and be like, what's happening? Why are there so many of these computers? But at this one, or there's a bit of that in this. He's like, I'm in the real world. You go, in the real world and he goes, can I run around and whatever? And you can't. You can't run around.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yeah. This directed by Joachim Ronning. I'm not sure how to pronounce that, but he directed the young woman in the sea, which was a Ray Skywarker movie. What's her name? Daisy Ridley. Daisy Ridley. He also did Maleficent 2.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Okay, great. And Pirates of the Caribbean, Salazar's revenge. So he's a real Disney journeyman. He's just doing, he's a light gun for Disney. Yeah. He's on the payroll, maybe. I, um, yeah, I, what do you think of this? I thought it was pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Baring in mind, Jared Leto, he's, I would say he and Greta Lee share roughly the same amount of screen time. That's probably true, yeah. Like, this is equally her movie as it is his movie, I think. They don't, but they just don't cross past. There's scene set in the computer. There's scenes said in the real world, but I like, her story is quite compelling. I think she, she was the co-CE of N-com with her sister, but then her sister died of cancer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:00 So she is searching for, you know, all sorts of computer stuff that'll stop that happening ever or whatever. Yeah, Flynn stuff. Flynn's going through Flynn stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I thought it was okay. I think it's... I think it's more than okay. I had a generally very pretty solid good time at the move.
Starting point is 00:56:16 It's slightly better than I thought it would be, but I know. it's like some people say like you know you just kind of got to get over it and whatever but i fucking hate looking at charred letter right and that definitely colored my opinion of this movie i don't i don't think he's bad in it i think there's some characterization of him which is pretty weak but i also don't think he adds anything to it i wouldn't say that like you could swap him out with literally anybody there is one bit where he's very obviously channeling paul allen from american psycho i don't know which bit the depish mode bit oh okay yeah sure that's a good point actually I would say, look, I would say...
Starting point is 00:56:50 I was just like, all right, this is happening. They didn't skimp on the effects. I think this looks equally good as the previous version. There's even a few little surprises in there graphically. We'll talk about it in spoilers. I think what I would say, though, is upon watching this and then doing a little digging afterwards, the director and I think the producers said something along the lines of, this is a sequel to the previous two movies, but they want a fairly clean break.
Starting point is 00:57:18 So if you're like, I wonder if this obscure character or this piece of law or whatever will appear in this, it probably won't. No, it's more of a sequel to the first one than it is the second one, even though there are direct hints towards the second one. They're mostly overlook it. I think the idea is that if there is another one in 20 years or whatever, then... Which they will be, because they're going to cycle through the idea. Yeah, the timeline is getting shorter to bring out Tron movies, to be fair. That then they bring back more people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Like, this is a lead into... What Disney hopes is a few more Tron stuff. I thought Evan Peters as Julian Dillinger was, you know, effectively, you know. Zuckerberg-esque sort of a time. Like not a cartoonishly evil guy, but like pretty, you know, that. Yeah. Gillian Anderson is underused. She's an absolute some amount of minutes.
Starting point is 00:58:09 She's just like, I disapprove. I don't stop doing Tron. Was Evan Peters in, was he in the Beekeeper? Who was the villain in the Beekeeper? I feel like it was like someone like that. It was somebody like that. Like a Dave Franco or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Who else do we have? Oh, it was Josh Hutchinson. There we go. Bring up the, if we could bring up the, I'll bring up the cast list. So Jared was Eve. Oh, like creation, et cetera. Ah, Jared Letto's character is the master control program. Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But he's got a second in command in the form of a woman named Athena. Yes. And her, is that Jared's turn. This is Jared Leto's second Greek role, by the way, after Morbius, Dr. Michael Morbius. That's exactly right. Yeah, Jody Turner Smith is Athena, and I think she was pretty good. Yep, brief appearance from Cameron Monaghan, would have liked to have seen more of him. Yeah, yeah, as one of Ares' soldiers.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yeah, he gets to do some lightsaber kind of stuff, which is cool. Arturo Castro is in this. He loves being in a computer, doesn't he? He loves going into a computer. He's in this, he's in a Star Wars computer. He's in a computer. Yeah. God.
Starting point is 00:59:11 So, yeah, all the... Get some bloody fresh air, mate. Mate, go outside. Yeah, get some sun. So there's a demonstration. early on because, yeah, like you mentioned, a main plot point is that they can bring things into the real world, but only in the, they 3D print them
Starting point is 00:59:24 with lasers, the lasers that suck you on. And they'll, but you only have 29 minutes. Yes. And the demonstration, they show and they're like, look at this tank, look at this Jared Leto, and they're like, Gary Vee's there as well. Shout out to Gary Vee. For real, Gary Vee. I'm almost 100% sure. I would say, yeah, go ahead. Go on.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You think Gary Vee is worse than a pedophile? I don't know everything about Gary Vee. is all I'm saying. Yeah. He plays the character Stuart Roche. Okay. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I just know he likes rinsen people for NFTs, among other things. Artura Castro is... Yeah. Bit of comic relief. He's sort of her PA. Yeah. So the secret is because they're showing all the military people and investors that, like, we can bring tanks into the real world and print them and they can run around.
Starting point is 01:00:11 But it only last 29 minutes. I don't think... I think that's a selling point to be like... Oh, then they self-destructing. You print something off. They self-destructing. you're in the clear. We've got to talk about that in spoilers again, I think.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Well, not done. So, well, also, actually, we can't talk about this now because it's not really a spoiler, that if you 3D print a fruit tree and then you eat the fruit, do you get the nutrients? Yeah. But then do they, the nutrients turn to computer data or whatever? Does it turn to, after 29 minutes, does the nutrients you eat, do they, does it turn to dust in your body or, and again, it doesn't really, it doesn't matter, obviously. This is the new microplastics.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Also, in a real world situation, if a corporation could do this, they would sell you fruit tree basic. Yeah, that's right. And then you get a 29-minute free trial. And then if you pay the bonus, you get to actually eat the fruit. But then if you forget to pay your subscription fee, they would pull the nutrients out of you with a laser that kills you. Yep. That would be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I think I you know obviously that we're getting we get in this a lot of integration of the the the Tron vehicles in the real world I thought that was really effective I thought that was really cool seeing one of those flying around not as much as you know I thought it was more of a Tron invasion and it's not really so the vehicles the world is not called Tron just for everybody who thinks that we don't know we know everything about Tron yeah yeah this might be the least Tron movie they've ever made maybe yeah I'll talk about it's why Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I think we're approaching spoilers, honestly. Yeah. Like, what, I mean, it looks great. Soundtrack is also good. Oh, yeah, we've got to talk about it. Yeah, so it's, um, Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. Uh, yeah, it's good. I, I didn't see this on an IMAX on Big Dolby or whatever, but it was still very effective, along with the vision.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Big Dolby. You're in Big Dolby. You can't get out. We close the doors. Big Dolby is sitting next to you and you look over and he's there. He's man spreading big Dolby. Goldley. Big Dolby would be.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Yeah. I would also say that going, so not Encom, the Dillinger has their own Tron's server. That's again another issue. It's a red world. Yes. It is a, I guess in the tradition of Tron, it's a fucking horrible thing to look at. Like, it's beautifully designed. Did you feel better about this universe then because some of it takes place outside?
Starting point is 01:02:32 Maybe, but also, like, being in a fucking virtual boy world is not pleasant. No. It was like hell. And I guess that's the point. But there was some fun new. vehicles in there there's like water skimmers and some other bits and pieces that we are that we do get to say that kind of um in the real world where they have those kind of uh vertical takeoff plane glider things that's are really cool they were reminiscent of centurion's they were
Starting point is 01:02:56 uh the movie also opens with a young jeff bridges which is very brave and i think that is it seemed to me like that was dialogue from current day jeff bridges because it was using it was the speech about the grid yeah but again but he sounded 70 years years old yeah yeah yeah yeah the grid man and we'll talk about jeff bridges in in spoilers i think with the character of aries there was there's like a lot of it is him and this is in the trailers of like oh he's discovering his humanity and what it means to make decisions for yourself etc and so forth but i found a lot of that where they'd be like what are you feeling uh jared leto and he's like i feel something it's indescribable it's hard to explain it's like that's great
Starting point is 01:03:36 man this is fucking thrilling stuff you describing your experiences by being like i don't know I mean, that's human, isn't it? But also, it's human to be like, this is how I feel. I feel hot right now. It's too hot. Do you know what I mean? I don't think there was anything there that was... I think there is something that is interesting
Starting point is 01:03:57 about bringing a digital person into the real world. But I don't think this touches on anything interesting. That was the next evolution of these movies, which we were sort of promised to... Yeah, of Tron Legacy. Which we haven't, you know, which I guess we got in a way, in this uh look i would i reckon honestly generally best movie ever i'm not i you know i think it's probably the least uh in terms of like moving things forward as in like uh technologically and
Starting point is 01:04:24 and all that like the way something looks and like showing new concepts to an audience i think this probably does the least of all the tron movies but at least it's not a step backwards yeah it's not a step backwards that was the fear of that it's because it'd be you know that this would be put on the marvel treadmill yes which is just like yeah knock it out kind of thing It's also not... Like, at least decisions were made early and they stuck to them and now they look, it looks...
Starting point is 01:04:46 It's not Guy gets stuck in Tron and goes, what's going on and then someone explains... What's going Tron? What's going Tron? And then they'll explain it to him for like the rest of the movie. It's that, but reverse.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Into the real world. What did you think of this movie? It was all right. It was, yeah, I would give it a best movie ever. I think it's... I mean, just be like it's not as good as the first Tron. I mean, in the sense of like... Like, yeah, obviously it looks better than the first Tron.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Well, I mean, I guess in the... But I mean, like, if you look at when the first one came out compared to this... But the first one is kind of an artistic vision. Absolutely. Whereas this... This builds on the foundation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither of the...
Starting point is 01:05:24 I mean, I guess the second one is... There's, you know, there's an artistic vision to that as well. Absolutely. That's a huge jump. It would be a disservice to say of either of these most recent two ones. They're not... You know, a lot of people didn't work super hard on both of these... No, no, it all looks great.
Starting point is 01:05:38 But they haven't, you know, they haven't reinvented the wheel here, whereas I guess the first Tron kind of did. Yeah, reinvented the trill. No. Spoilers. It's time for spoilers. Okay, what are we having to... Okay, here's one.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Everybody's still surprised there's a Tron world in the computer. Yeah. Why is that? Yeah, because she knew, right? I mean, is it not... But she didn't. I don't know if she did. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I guess it's not widely known. Jeff Bridges got caught in a computer. Again, so this is not... This is nitpicking just for the sake of nitpicking. I don't think this affects the... To me, the quality of the movie, my opinion of the movie. movie, all this sort of stuff, but I do have questions.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yeah. I guess Sam Flynn didn't tell anybody that he... He didn't tell Greta Lee. Because Greta Lee goes into the Tron World. She gets sucked into the computer by the, but just some guy with the laser. And they were friends. Like he picked her to run the company. Yeah, yeah. So, but then she, she ends up in, in the Dillinger computer system.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And she's like, whoa, how is this happening? Surely she's been briefed on this. Wouldn't she be like at some point, somebody's going to suck you off into the computer? I guess there's a difference between him. hearing about it and like literally doing it. I guess so that's, yeah. I'm guessing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Yeah, and as far as people know, like, Jeff Bridges disappeared in 1989 and didn't do anything since, which is not true. Yeah. If you've seen Tron 2. Here's, um, what's it one? I think, you know, Cameron Monahan's in this. And he gets his leg cut off and then they just like, he deletes him. He's like, well, he failed in his task.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Yeah, yeah. My understanding was that because Jared Lato kept dying, it's the doomsday method. And then the program learns and it gets upgrade until he's the best war Yes, that's what I thought too. You wouldn't just bring him back and be like, I just step over that. Yeah, it's probably true. I was expecting him to come back and him have his own kind of army of... Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Well, here's a few things that I did, that I expected, or that I was kind of hoping for at a certain point. And, you know, it is what it is. It's what it is. You get it all you don't. Of course, Ares ends up in one of the... The original... Kevin Flynn's original computers, which has a... Like, it has a, it has a, like, an old 1980s tron.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Yeah. So it's not the full Tron world from Tron. No, but it's, they've got the aesthetic and... And so we see Kevin Flynn as a ghost. But in the grand tradition of first Tron, where Tron is in it, but he's not the main character. And Tron Legacy, where Tron is in it, but he's not the main character. And Tron Uprison, where Tron's in it, but he's not the main character. This movie has, has, it doesn't have Tron at all.
Starting point is 01:08:02 At all. But I thought there'd be a moment where Kevin Flynn sends original Tron as backup. I thought that would have been a cool thing. to send him out in the world, and then he'd be like, and he's in the old white, the white body suit? Yeah, and all you'd have to be like, he's a gift from Kevin Flynn. He's a gift from Kevin Flynn. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:18 You know, and you wouldn't even need to know who Tron was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, yeah, that would have been great. But he's got two discs. But I think it was, I thought that was fun integration to see that 1990s. I mean, it's really cool to see the best version of that. And I honestly think that maybe one of the entire reasons that this was made is because Jared Leto wanted to see himself in the original Tron line.
Starting point is 01:08:39 You're probably right. And he did. He did. But when he goes into Tron One World, Jeff Bridges, he's not trapped there. He says something like, I exist because you exist. So he hasn't just been here the whole time. He was only brought to life or consciousness because it's like Legion in Red Dwarf. This is our Red Dwarf episode.
Starting point is 01:08:57 That's right. So with Jared Ledo being there, then he comes online. But how does that, is he, so I assume he's the same, it's the same Kevin Flynn, right? No, I think it's a different. Well, that's what I, yeah, because this is, because Kevin Flynn got stuck in the grid. But then, yeah. And this isn't the grid.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And I guess what remains of Kevin Flynn got put onto Sam Flynn's phone and then onto that memory card. Yeah. So wherever that memory card is. But also, this version of Tron is networked to the computer in the arcade. Yes. Which was never networked before. No, it was a network. So it's, it's Kevin Flynn's office, which is also linked to the, to the Flynn's arcade, which has the laser, the original laser that sucks you off.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Into the computer Into the computer I cannot stress enough Into the computer And out It also does out Yeah I mean so
Starting point is 01:09:46 I don't know I don't know where specifically he is Did they flesh it out They probably did But it's not explained Also My question has often been Are all computers
Starting point is 01:09:56 In this universe like this Because the Dillinger computers Is a Tron world And You can't even look at it It's the same thing It's in a desk And they go
Starting point is 01:10:05 you go infiltrate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But are all computers like this or is it only computers that have been affected by the master control program from the original I'm going to say that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Because everyone's still got a smartphone and whatever. Also, some people have taken issue with this but I don't think it's an issue really. So the question is, why is there now an NCOM and a competing company called Dillinger Systems?
Starting point is 01:10:27 But in Trom Legacy, Ed Dillinger works for. Ed Dillinger Jr. is in the board meeting at the start of the movie and presumably works for N-Con. But I would say there isn't I mean you could just say that after the events of the first movie
Starting point is 01:10:44 Dylan should go to prison? Yeah, I think so. Well, after he comes out of prison. And he's dead. And he's dead. He starts a new company. But he's not dead because there's a bonus thing on the DVD.
Starting point is 01:10:54 That's what I'm saying. But that might be master of it. That's what I'm saying. He starts Dillinger systems in like 80, 1990 or whatever. Yeah. Right. And then he has two kids, Gillian Anderson. who plays Miss, Mum, Dillinger, Mother Dillinger.
Starting point is 01:11:07 And he has Ed Dillinger, Jr., which is Killing Murphy, Uncredited. Who was supposed to probably be in this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then... I think he was going to be the main villain. Almost certainly, yeah. And then he dies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Original Ed Dillinger dies. Yeah. And then he passes the company along to Gillian Anderson. Yes. And then Ed Dillinger, Jr. goes to work for Encom, but it's a scheme. Yeah. It's a scheme. He goes, your mission is to...
Starting point is 01:11:31 What you do is... Intit and take over or whatever. Exactly. Pretend you really put out because you didn't get control of the company and then you go to NCOM. And then he does the thing at the end of the Blu-ray. Yep. You know? I think that's a good way to justify it.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Did they think about it? I think they probably did. I think they probably did. Yeah. So that works, I guess. Yeah. The ending though, you know, Jared Lido gets his, um, gets his, um, gets his trauma power, so it becomes human and whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:53 And then he gets tired and he gets, he can have blood and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he's real and permanent. Because you know, because you're a bloke. Oh, that's true. And being a bloke isn't permanent.
Starting point is 01:12:01 It's only for a little bit, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then he gets to go off in the world on a cool motorcycle. Then you chopped. Then you chop, mate. But he gets to live in the world, and he's looking for Sam Flynn and... Olivia Wild. Whatever her character's name was.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Mrs. Isso. Yeah, because there's pictures of them throughout this, and I'm like, oh, this is going to be the post credits or we're going to see them. If they make another one of these, in the near future, we'll see them. But if it's another 10, 15 years, they might just do another vague reason. They'll be like, what happened to Jared? Leto's character. He died on the toilet.
Starting point is 01:12:32 He died. He was not a prepared for having to use the toilet in the real world. No. So he just didn't use the toilet for a year. He did a poo standing up because he didn't know when he died. Just went right through him. It pierced his heart. That happens to regular people though.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Don't do a poo standing up. Okay? Yeah. It bounces back up. It's through his heart. Like a spring. Like a slinky. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:58 What are we talking about? Are you, Tron Ares. Yeah. What else? So he's out in the world and Gretelie makes a fruit tree for everybody and whatever. It's just microplastics.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah, it probably would be good for you. But there's amid credits. There is. Because what's his day? Evan Peters, Julian Dillinger. He's done all the schemes and his creation, Athena, killed his mom. And et cetera.
Starting point is 01:13:25 And then the cops show up. Weather cops. And we definitely understand what's going to be happening in here. And they bust in on his facility where he's been 3D printing all the tanks and guns and whatever. So he decides to reverse the laser and suck himself off into the computer. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 01:13:40 You know, the Dillinger computers. Tell you, well, I did like the infiltration, red guys going into blue stuff. It was good, yeah. Yeah, it was good stuff. Like, you're looking on a computer, it's just like, you guys running along, and then you see it? Yeah. It's really intense. So when he shows up, the system has, I think the systems, well, it's been destroyed,
Starting point is 01:13:56 but it also seems to reverted to a previous version. Yeah. Because when you show up in the computer world, you get given an identity disc. And his identity disc that has been provided to him is the old one from Tron 1, which is the Frisbee one. Two and a half megabytes. The candy cane frisbee one. And then he touches it and he starts to turn into the Sark old school. Master Control, the Puppet God.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right, because I guess there's some Sark in there. Yeah. Sarked him right off. Into the computer. Come on, man. Into the computer.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Oh, okay. Sorry, then. Yeah, that's the hint of what's to come, I guess. That's a hint of what's to come. But it won't be. Nothing's coming. Yeah, the difference between Sark and this version of Sark and the previous one is Sark and Dillinger were different guys. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:45 They're merging, which also might have happened in previous movies or TV shows. Look, I have no doubt they thought about all this sort of stuff, but eventually they just didn't get into it. They just chuck, God, just chuck it out. It's fine. Yeah. They can answer in interviews if people care enough. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Yeah, I got some reviews here from people, just like us. Oh. Fans of big movie. Not just like us. No, not just like us. They're probably all their podcasts. Tyler says, I don't know, man, I got to see a light cycle do the Akira slide.
Starting point is 01:15:13 That's true. And jammed a 9-inch now. I was like, kind of fuck with this movie. It was. It was. I don't always have to be the biggest. Ledo isn't nearly as intolerable as he is in other things in the visuals kick ass in IMAX 3D.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Obviously, this movie could have been better if it wasn't Lido Vanity Pro But it is in no way a terrible movie. A lot of the effect shots were in the trailer. But I mean, it was great to see the light cycles just out in the real world. Look sick and rad and cool and fun. And it's early on as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to wait for it to happen.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Milos says, I just couldn't be invested in the story. As the first act doesn't have a clear protagonist, we just follow a number of people who are all simple clichés, each with some vague motivations, does pick up in the middle and where there are some cool bits, I still wasn't invested. Jared Leto's acting also didn't help the whole experience. It's very disappointed. It's a big fan of Tron Legacy. Alice says, no spoilers here.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Went to a special screening last night. Movie was mid, but VFX and score was excellent. Samuel says, I don't know, mates. It's certainly fun to lay hard on leto for how big of an insufferable crooky is. But I reckon most people are letting the anti-letto-biased cloud their judgment of the film. There are so many great things about it from the production design, VFX, score and sound design, visual language action pieces to just how law faithful and consistent it is. Oh, yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:16:26 I mean, like I said, that definitely. did affect my opinion of that character at least. And Thomas says, Worst movie ever, unfortunately, as a 9-inch nail is obsessive. I don't think the soundtrack is that great for their standards. Disney have clearly asked Trent Reznor and Atticus Rost to score this under the NIN name as marketing
Starting point is 01:16:45 to save this movie from box office poison that is Jared Leto, who is incredibly off-putting throughout some good performances, but there's nothing here of substance. Oh, also, Trent Reznor Anacus Roster in this movie. Are they? They're the F-35 pilots. Oh.
Starting point is 01:17:01 That was cool. Get those planes chopped up. They're chopped up. Wings up. Wings chopped up. Should have been more. Should have been more stuff. But I guess it's expensive.
Starting point is 01:17:07 More Tron stuff in the real Tron world. More Tron stuff in the real world. Yeah. So, you know, sometimes movies come out. Also, Olivia Wilde's character's name was Quora. Quora. I looked it up. Like Quora.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Like Quora. Like Quora. Yeah. Hello. All right. Should we moved in the next segment of the show. Let's do another segment. It's called what we read.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Can you say what we're going to read? Luffy. What the hell? That's bad podcasting, isn't it? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? This is a great segment. It's one of the best segments.
Starting point is 01:17:42 You know about this? I mean, no. It's called what we're reading, what we're going to read. We basically talk about things that we've been watching, reading, doing, saying, seeing, listening. Saying. Saying. Wow. What do you been saying?
Starting point is 01:17:53 I've been saying a lot of stuff in the week that's about a podcast. Does that count? Yeah. Because I can do this every week. Yeah, really? Yeah. I can do it every week, too, if I wanted to. Then let's do that.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Okay, fine. Great. Moving on. Moving on. Moving to the next segment. I read Batman the cult, which is a comic that I bought a few weeks back. That's a classic Batman.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Jim Stalin, Bernie Riteson. It's Batman gets indoctrinated into a cult, and the cult seems like they're doing good things because they're keeping homeless people off the street and stopping crime, etc. Does he get indoctrinated as Bruce Wayne or is Batman? No, it's Batman. So he's got the...
Starting point is 01:18:26 mask on the whole time they time up and torture anyway I never read the cult what I realized in this as well it's heavily implied and it might just happen that Batman kills a guy so he goes so he's under like the influence of the cult and he has like a dream where he like riddles someone with a machine gun and then he comes
Starting point is 01:18:42 to him there's like a dead guy and he's under the influence of a cold you were saying he's got a cold he's doing a big sneeze okay well it's causing to shoot this guy so it's one of the I mean I guess it's open to interpretation but having to look around it seems as if it's one of the few Batman stories the more modern ones, I guess, where he, I mean, he was under the influence of the cold,
Starting point is 01:19:00 but he killed the guy directly. Yeah. And I think that's fun. It's fun. So three confirmed kills. This guy and then his parents. And his parents, yeah. So I would say also.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Through his inaction. Yeah. Yes. It's art's great. It's one of those things where, like, I couldn't describe the art specifically, but it's like, oh, that was an era of Batman, you know? You don't see that anymore. You don't see that stuff anymore.
Starting point is 01:19:22 You don't see that stuff anymore. You don't see that stuff anymore. You don't see that stuff anymore. A guy in a dream or whatever and a cold. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. What are you reading? Well, speaking of Batman, I am currently up to date on Batman Dark Patterns, which is the... Oh, I've got one of them. I've got to get the other ones.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Yeah, you get them all. So it's... We've mentioned it in previous podcast, but it's the series... It's three or four issue arcs and they're all sort of self-contained. Yes. And they're, you know, some of introduced new villains and it's sort of Batman as detective or Batman doing what he does and not like super crazy cycle. I won't talk about the first story. Is he doing karate? He's doing karate a lot of the time. The first one's about a first storyline is about a kind of a new serial killer.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I won't really spoil that one. But the second one, you would enjoy, I think, the second story arc because it is... How many stories to a... How many comics to an arc? Like three or four usually. Oh, good. But the second one is akin to the movie Dread because he has to go into a tenet. He has to go into a tenement building.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Kill everyone. Yes. No, to rescue some hostages. two wrinkles to this that seems like a fairly standard Batman problem I do it all the time. One of which is the architecture of the building is kind of strange and it's kind of echo and like
Starting point is 01:20:34 people can appear and disappear as if by magic but also the building may have been possessed by the body of Scarface you know the ventriloquist dolly yeah yeah so which is it is a real guy at this point in this continuity? I don't
Starting point is 01:20:50 well this is this is the kind of Batman stuff that I enjoy so much which is for people who are not familiar with this character and I would love to see him in The Batman that it's a duo of villains of a sort of ventriloquist and Scarface and the ventriloquist is like a portly man
Starting point is 01:21:08 in a suit sometimes with a bowtie and a little hat and little glasses and he doesn't really talk he's kind of very meek wild-mannered kind of character but he is he carries with him Scarface who's a ventriloquist dummy a wooden
Starting point is 01:21:22 ventriloquist dummy who is styled like a 1920s gangster. He's got the little pinstripe suit. He's got the little... I'm saying her, but I know. He's in the animated series as well. Yeah, the little working Tommy gun and what have you. But, I mean, in continuity in this series,
Starting point is 01:21:36 I'm sure, you know, Arkham Asylum and the, you know, the Blackgate prison or whatever would be like. Well, obviously, he's psychologically damaged and he's put all these aggressive tendencies into the medium of the doll, but actually blah, blah, blah. But also the part of it's like, maybe the doll's haunted. Yeah. Maybe the doll's haunted, you can't say for sure whether the other other dolls haunted.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Like maybe the doll is haunted or maybe that like he's haunted and like there's the spirit is in him and he's controlling. Because I think there's also, if I can't remember specifically, but I think some, some additional law about the doll is that it was made from like a hangman's, you know, the gallows and the wood was, you know, etc. So again, maybe the spirit of a killer is in the doll, but maybe also just he's remembered that story and he's gone mad. And it's the same thing with this. It's like, well, has everybody gotten some sort of social contagion in this building? And that's why it's acting like this. Or social contagion wasn't real. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Or is the spirit of the Scarface in the building, you know, a bit of fun. Is that closed out now, that story? That particular story is closed. I don't know if the series is ongoing. It's good. He's also got the giant yellow over. Yeah, it's the 80s man. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:48 It's whatever. Is that the 80s? It's early on, I don't know. Yeah. It would be the 89 Batman. Yeah, cool. For those people wondering, which I'm sure people are, yes, my daughter is playing Nintendo Switch in this room.
Starting point is 01:22:57 That's right. What game you're playing? I don't know. Hell of a gamer this one. Yeah, it's right. Fake game. Very mysterious, yeah. Very mysterious.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Do you know, you got it? All right. I've also been listening to an audio book. Yeah. It's the autobiography of comedian Alexi Sale. Oh, yeah. Thatcher stole my trousers, which is just, it's very interesting. It's kind of...
Starting point is 01:23:19 Is he live? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He does a podcast and everything. But it's about him growing up in the kind of 60s and 70s and seeing the growing up in the 60s and 70s as the child of communists and then sort of going from art college to performance art to like the early development of stand-up just in the UK in general.
Starting point is 01:23:37 It's very interesting. And it's funny. It's funny. Cool. Yeah, I like his work. Yeah. He's in the young ones, folks, for people who don't know. The young ones.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Young ones. Do you remember Bobby Chariot? Bobby Chariot? I don't think I do. It's one of his characters. It's all right. You don't have to know, Bobby Jarrett. I remember, what was the show?
Starting point is 01:23:54 It's a show where he's in a league of people with, like, amazing facial hair and mustaches. That might have been the all-new Alexi-Sail show. Do you mean the League of Gentleman? Maybe. I don't know if he's in that. I just remember that skit as a kid and watching it again and again. Oh, no, you can't change the character in this.
Starting point is 01:24:10 You're just Mario. Yeah, and that's the worst one. Yeah, I know. Because you want to be Wa-Louigi. Is that right? You want to be Wa-Louigi? Yeah, fair enough. Well, there's no peach in the car.
Starting point is 01:24:21 game. On there is, but... It's Mario and 10 Waluigi. Luigi. That's great. Let's do the next segment of the show. What's it called? It's called Letters.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's very simple. I do have the theme song. I do have the theme song. It's ready to go. It's probably time to play it. Yeah, I'll play now. The classic one was... Letters.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Oh, letters. We love you. Some letters. They're only the take away. You know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. She's miced up. just in case.
Starting point is 01:24:52 This is for content. This is for content purposes, I think. One of the most noble things you can do is mine your children for content. Just in case, I mean, we've got big sandwich. We've got pig rolling down a hill. That's so true, isn't it? I mean, I told that story.
Starting point is 01:25:06 We've got what we're reading, nothing, another classic. That's so classic. That's right. Yeah. If you want to reach the show, it's as simple as going to the Planet Broadcasting Greatmates Group and signing up and getting approved and then there's going to be a letter's thread every week
Starting point is 01:25:20 and you leave a letter there, or... And if you want to be one of James's children, you just got to produce enough good content and he'll adopt you. That's correct. So there you go. But it has to be a lot of good content. Mm, true. Or just send Mason to Gmail to weekly planet pod at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:25:34 That is so true, isn't it? Yes. Here's an email from Louis. Louis. Hey, James and Mason. My question is with both of you. I got a question for you Louis CK. Oh, you think it's Louis CK?
Starting point is 01:25:43 It's just Louis CK. I mean, let's read the rest of the email and see if it's a Louis CK-esque. I actually have more than one question, but let's go. Let's say. All right. If you were forced If you were forced to add a third member of the podcast Who has to be a Hollywood A-lister?
Starting point is 01:25:57 Who would you add and why? Oh, I was going to say, well, we've already got a third one. Yeah, I mean, it's too late now. I mean, this letter is wildly out of date. Bear in mind, this person is going to be at James's house every week and we'll also be hanging out with the two of you whenever you hang out. But that's just when we do the podcast. I mean, we don't like, we don't know anyone.
Starting point is 01:26:15 So like, how will we even judge this? Well, we can't. We've got to take a punch. hunt and hope they're not an awful person. Do they want to do it? Like, because I don't want to be organizing another person. Not that I'm organizing you. You organize yourself.
Starting point is 01:26:28 I do. But I don't want to be organizing a person every week and they're trying to figure out a time and they don't want to do it. What I like about this is this is obviously a question meant to be like a magical question. Like, we can have anybody and they just appear, but you're like, what are the logistics of this? Exactly. What if they don't want to be here?
Starting point is 01:26:45 How many times have I paused? How many? Eight or nine times? Yeah, exactly. But this is an odd. day to do this, I think. Yeah, it is. It's a lot going on.
Starting point is 01:26:53 So in my, in my mind, this is just, they just show up and they're glad to be here, but in your case... Do they prep anything to have their own segments? Like, do they, if they watched the movie, do they come in and go, didn't see it? No, they have to see it. Okay. I think they have to see it. So they're a fully fledged member that I don't have to pay.
Starting point is 01:27:08 You don't have to, hmm, you don't have to pay. Okay. If they can take one stress off the table for you, you don't have to pay for them. What I would say is they have to, they have to contribute to the topic. and they have to have seen whatever the movie is, right? They can't let their Hollywood lifestyle. Does it have to be an actor or a director
Starting point is 01:27:28 because I feel like a director would be... Hollywood A-lister, it just says. So they'd include directors, I think. Or hot-shot producers. Yeah, it would have to be... You could get Brett Ratner. It could get Brett Ratner. I probably wouldn't choose Brett Ratner.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Interesting, okay. Interesting how your mind works. Is it? I have a beautiful mind? Very interesting. Do you think Russell Crow would be fun? I was thinking Russell Crowe, honestly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:48 I was thinking Russell Crow was there. He'd have opinions. wouldn't he? Yeah, he would, yeah. You want somebody who's like a cinephal, and a lot of actors and A-Listers, they obviously... I would say, if I would say probably, speaking of Russell Crowe, and this is not a knock on Russell Crowe. Here we go, let's go. But I think that it, the other option I was thinking of, like, Colin Farrell. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Because what I think, what I'm, the thought is someone who is an A-lister and people know, but they're past the hump of like... Oh, like a Hugh Grant even. Yeah, like the hottest and coolest bad boy on the. the block kind of thing. So they're not like... They'll give us some truths. They'll give us some real juice. Hugh Grant would also be great.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Yeah. Yeah. And he would hate this. He would hate it. He has to be here and he has to watch the movie. Yeah, it would have had to watch Tron Aries. Right?
Starting point is 01:28:36 But they would have all the... You were saying director. Who would be a direct view of it? I mean, I just recently Paul, Paul S. W.S. Anderson. Tarantino would be a fucking nightmare. I want to be clear. You don't mean Paul Thomas Anderson. You're saying.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Paul Thomas Anderson I think would be interesting Tarantino would be... Paul Thomas Anderson is the one battle after another guy Paul W.S. Anderson is the other one both. Okay, great. No, yeah, sorry. The underworld guy, yes, I think you'd have blockbuster opinions, but the other guy would also...
Starting point is 01:29:05 I think Tarantino would be annoying. Or Werner Herzog. What if he got Werner Herzog? He'd be good, wouldn't that? David Lynch would have been good when he was alive. Yes. Yeah. Orson Wells, he's good in an interview.
Starting point is 01:29:15 He got past the point of giving it. Like, I was going to swear. He didn't care at all. Yeah. He didn't give a flip, did he? He didn't give any flips at all. We're a G-rated show now, folks. That's right.
Starting point is 01:29:25 For the remainder of this episode. Interesting question, I ever thought it. Yeah. Honestly, yeah. Because you're like, man, they'd have to take a flight everywhere. That's their problem, isn't it? Well, see, that's the thing. And we're not zooming anyone in.
Starting point is 01:29:36 No, exactly. It's got to be live as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to set up any tech or anything. Yeah. Yeah, I reckon Russell cry. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:29:44 He'd probably bring tinies, like a six pack of tinnies as well. I do, yeah. Yeah. And then he go, what are you blow his bloody drinking? He better not start every sentence, though, as the greatest actor in the world. I think that would be good if he did. Maybe, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:00 All right. I've got a letter here. It's from Rob Perry. Okay. He says, when did every final episode? Related to Katie Perry, do you think? Maybe. Let's check.
Starting point is 01:30:08 No, it's not. When did every final episode slash season of a show start to define how the show was perceived? And it is an unfair on everything good that came before. This is something I was talking about with my wife and, teenager recently. I've recently started to... My teenager. I rewatched Bavalon 5.
Starting point is 01:30:23 And while I know the final season of the show is mostly pretty shoddy, it doesn't hinder my enjoyment of things as a whole. But more recently, poor endings to pretty good shows like The Mandalorian or Game of Thrones have made a rewatch highly unlikely. Oh yes.
Starting point is 01:30:34 You get in another game? Yeah. All right. Even my beloved Doctor Who isn't immune. Well, crappy's final stories... James, you get all your swears out now. Your daughter's left the room. God damn it, shit.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Fuck. Well, a crappy final stories. in a season of nothing you go all the way back to the 60s and the wheel in space it's I don't know what that is It's quickly Google It's quickly Google it
Starting point is 01:30:58 You don't want to see your daughter Look up the wheel in space Is this a real wheel that's in space? I don't know man Oh it was like a Doctor Who kind of thing Oh Yeah so it's a partially missing Seven and final serial
Starting point is 01:31:09 The fifth season of the British sci-fi Doctor Who So it's one of the missing episode Oh I see right right But they probably remade at some point Yeah It's only the last couple of years The poor finale has tainted everything I think
Starting point is 01:31:18 Go on This is not so much People being like Oh, this ruined the entire thing It's that every episode in the show Used to be kind of self-contained And it wasn't that normally Can you close a door a little bit
Starting point is 01:31:30 And there wasn't this on Thank you It wasn't this ongoing Arc And then the only thing you remember is the end And then you're like Well that sucks actually What do you think?
Starting point is 01:31:39 You're probably right One of the thoughts that I had about that Is also probably that There weren't as many huge gaps Yeah In the days as well But that, I guess that doesn't really, that doesn't really factor in if you're like, well, I'm going to do a re-watch and everything is here now.
Starting point is 01:31:54 But I think even like, but maybe it taints the whole experience if you're like, oh, okay, well, this season was really bad and now I've got to wait three years for the next quarter or whatever. I don't know. Oh, I'll see you. Another dog's here. Oh, boy. God, this is interruption. Is there enough things going on, Mason?
Starting point is 01:32:11 I wish there were more things. I wish we had that third celebrity or whatever. Oh, Rusty would be like, look at this buddy dog here. He'd be like three dogs in here. And then he'd probably hit us. Give me your phone and smash. He's a bad boy. He's an only wood bad boy.
Starting point is 01:32:26 He is, isn't he? Yeah, I think you're probably right because the, I mean, you know, Game of Thrones has been talked about extensively. Also, that wasn't just a bad episode. No. It wasn't a bad finale. It was a declining season. Also, maybe it's just because we know what happened behind the scenes of that.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Maybe that affects it, where we go, well, we know, if you look at an old season of Doctor Who, maybe, and you go, well, you know, I have no idea how they made this in a cupboard with plunges and stuff. But we know for a fact that the Game of Thrones last season was rushed because they wanted to move on. Yeah, and Mandeloram was like, well, we did it all in the Bogafet show and we're making a movie and we can't take his helmet off because Pedro Fiscal won't do a movie. people were like the last episode sucks but I think you write there you're right that's you know like you talk about Magnum P.I recently yeah yeah yeah yeah and it was just he would do a different adventure every week
Starting point is 01:33:24 it wasn't like an ongoing kind of it's a standalone thing whereas whereas and you're just like oh I remember that cool episode or whatever yeah yeah yeah so when it's done right a la Breaking Bad Game Breaking Bad we had a better call solid pluberous maybe or whatever it's pluberous pluberous yeah
Starting point is 01:33:38 you know it's you go oh wow what a what a solid ongoing arc but if it's a bad arc you can't escape from it. Yeah. You know? You can't escape from a bad arc. Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Here's an email from Rachel. Yeah, let's see what this email is. Hey, James Amato. In your last episode, I could hear lots of Lorikeets, question mark, in the background. I love wildlife and birds, and we'd be keen to know what your favorite bird or animal generally is. I do like a lot of care. This is a great question for everybody. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:04 We could all say what our favorite birds are. Rachel says, your podcast is the highlight of my week and always leaves me smiling and feeling better. Best wishes from Edinburgh. Thank you. I've been to Edinburgh. Pelican bit me once. And so they're your favorite animal? Probably.
Starting point is 01:34:17 And you're always running around trying to get a different bird to bite you again. I mean, I love a white cockatoo or a black cockatoo because they're rarer. We can include any animal generally. I think my favorite bird is probably the gala. Because it's pink and gray. And it can be like your bloody gala. What's going on there? Why is it pink and gray?
Starting point is 01:34:33 What's happening there? But I love it. You know, it's a good bird? A bat? It's a good one. Good bird is a bat. Yeah, yeah. I'll ask, hey, what's your favorite bird?
Starting point is 01:34:42 Gala. You said what you said. I just said that. Do you have another favourite bird or are you just copying Mason? Cockatoo. I said that one too. Can you name a third bird? Okay, what about...
Starting point is 01:34:52 But if that is your favorite bird, let's turn. A parrot is a good one. A parrot is a great bird. Okay, what about favourite animal in general? Just apropov, nothing, no prompting. A cat. You guys don't have a cat. No, we don't.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Should we get a cat? Yeah. No, I don't... Oh no. You have to now. Well, I've got a dog. Let's wait to see what happens with the dog. You think it's going to turn into a cat?
Starting point is 01:35:14 That's not what happens to them. Then they have a different life cycle, right? Yeah, I think so. Okay, cool. They shed their skin and then they're a cat. A cat and a girl. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Any type of cat, like any particular color? Like a ginger cat? Oh, that are the cat that came and stayed with us. That was a good one, wasn't it? We housed out a cat, Mason. Oh, you met that cat? I did make that cat. Cool stuff.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Yeah. Well, that cat belongs to somebody else, so you can't have that one. Also, I've never seen one of these in real life with the Dracula parrot. Damn, that's good. What do you think of that? You like a Dracula? You know what a Dracula is? Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:48 What is it? Yeah, that's not incorrect. It's a bat slash man. Thank you for contributing great question for everybody here. Mason? Yes, from Liam says, do you feel disappointment at the lack of Australian superheroes?
Starting point is 01:36:01 No. I don't care. I think growing up in Australia, you're just used to content not being for us or from here. That's correct. And I can look at a character from somewhere else and go, I don't know what this is, but it's a good character.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Also, I feel like the, the, like, I guess the difference here is, do you mean... And there are Australian superheroes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But you're talking about Australian created superheroes versus Australian superheroes in a superhero universe. I feel like superheroes are like a very American concept. So it doesn't really bother me that, like, we don't have our own superhero universes here. It's like, you know, diners or something, you know, it's like, that's an American. thing and you get him here but it's it's not quite the same but you don't think of him
Starting point is 01:36:48 as an Australian thing Bishop is Australian from X-Men apparently is he this is what I'm saying condor man's Australian no he's not you that's his condom man that's not a joke that's actually what it says no it doesn't it's a he's a he looks like the phantom yeah yeah uh sort of yes he does yeah I'm aware I'm aware of all sorts of things he doesn't have a mask he's just got yeah yeah it was to promote safe sex in is that actually actually true. That's a real thing. It says condo man. I know. I know. But he was probably safe sex in. Oh yeah. There's a, there's an image here and it just says use condoms. Yeah, I know. I'm well aware. I mean, only when you need them. Sure.
Starting point is 01:37:28 You don't have to use them if you don't need them is what I'm saying. Like all the time is what I'm saying. Don't put one on your head for no reason. That's what you're saying. I mean for comedy purposes you can. You absolutely can do that. Yeah. What were you talking about? Oh yeah. Um, no, also I would much, the thing about regional superheroes is, it's annoying, it's not annoying, but it's, it's, it lacks a bit of creativity if they're just, they're two regions specific. Like, it's, it's, it's, it's Captain Australia. Oh, it's like, Boomerang man. Boom, Bondi, Bondi Beach man or whatever. Yeah. It's like, not every super, Spider Man's not American themed, is he? No. It's like just, if you, if, if, if you feel the. need to create a superhero universe with Australian superheroes, don't give us Boomerang Man, obviously, or whatever it is. Yep, absolutely. Flat white man.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Flat white man. I mean, maybe give us flat white man. We'll say that. Yeah. Yeah. But in the immortal words of condo man, yep. Don't be shame, be game. That's what he says. Ain't that the truth? Yeah. What else, Mason? He's on a mail from Jack. Jack! And normally we don't do this, James. Normally.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Man, you're going to hit me with a superhero showdown? No, because this is a, this is a recurring. This, this, this, this, this, Jack emailed in last week. You'll know who Jack is. Okay. But this, I think this is important because this is ignited a fire. This is a follower.
Starting point is 01:38:48 This is the mummy. Yeah. All right. So this is, hello guys. It's Jack again from the UK. My daughter isn't here again. So I got to, I got to, I got to just bring it down a notch. That's right.
Starting point is 01:38:59 But otherwise there'd be language. Yeah. Hello guys. It's Jack again from the UK. Firstly, I've been told by my girlfriend to apologize to everyone who was affected by my quote unquote stupid opinion that was read out last week, regarding Tom Cruise being sexy than Brendan Fraser. Apologies, I didn't mean to stress folks.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I have a question that would either clear my... First of all, we weren't stressed. We were furious, it's different. We were furious, and also, like we said, you were entitled to have that opinion. We were bewildered, but we're not stressed. No, we're not stressed. We're not stressed. We're not stressed for different reasons. We've got other things going on.
Starting point is 01:39:30 I have a question that would either clear my name or would either make the official madman of the podcast. I was curious, who would you cast in the swast-buckling adventure role if a new mummy was coming out? That's a reasonable question. options or is it just like in general? No, just in general, but here's the thing. God. Who would you cast in the Swashbuckling Adventure Roll
Starting point is 01:39:48 if a new mummy was coming out? I know he's old, but I'd like Jeremy Renner. Thanks again for the great content and again apologies. Thanks, Jack. Why him specifically, though? There's nothing about that that I just wouldn't have thought Jeremy Renner. Isn't that wild?
Starting point is 01:40:05 This is a whole new world, James. Yeah, this guy's got one. It's not wrong because I could see a student. video being like yeah Jeremy Renner's in the new mommy movie but I'm not like I'm not going to be the guy who's like hey we need a sexy new young guy let's get Jeremy Renner yeah Austin Butler yeah Austin Butler would probably if he could not do that voice yeah I saw him something recently yeah we watched the movie no but I mean before that like it was it was an older movie and I'm like oh he's not doing the voice not the court stealing one you're talking
Starting point is 01:40:36 about something yeah yeah yeah he's just in the back of it and I and I'm like oh he's not doing the voice yeah okay was it though, I can't remember. It wasn't once upon a time in Hollywood. It was somewhere in the middle, I think. Yeah. But it's not important. He wasn't doing the voice.
Starting point is 01:40:50 What about Glenn Powell? Everyone's Glenn Powell. What about Glenn Close? That's good too. Yeah. These guys are too old. Being 40s not that old. That's too old, man.
Starting point is 01:41:01 It's actually acceptable. It's totally okay. He's going to pull a muscle swinging over a pirate ship or whatever. So? Yeah. What a way to pull a muscle, though. That's so true. I'm going to say Austin Butler.
Starting point is 01:41:10 All right. I'm going to say Austin Powers. Okay, great. Yeah, baby. Behave. Running away from a big sandstorm faces. That's my bag. Yep.
Starting point is 01:41:20 That's right. The mummy, who behave? Who behave the mummy? Anaks and a moon? Behave. Mason. Yes. This is also named Bort, who said, good reference.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Would you rather be trapped in Tron, Jumanji or Adelaide? Trapped. I've never been to Adelaide. You can never leave? For a time, I guess. I mean, you would also age in Adelaide. You would not, you could age in Tron, but you'd be stuck in Tron.
Starting point is 01:41:47 I would hate to be stuck in. Unless you can find a laser that does the thing that Lazy's doing. Good luck. For PJ reasons. We can't do it. The laser that does the things that Lases do in the Tron universe. In a computer. Yeah, in a computer.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Jumanji, at least you would come out and it would reverse. Oh, yeah. But also, I feel like you're thinking about original Jumanji. I kind of feel like there's more. stress of death than you Jumarji. Yeah, but not really. Someone will come and get you eventually. But can't you lose enough lives that you die for real forever? Yeah, but I think you just get like wiped out for a bit and then the game
Starting point is 01:42:20 and then spits you out at the end. I don't remember the last one. It doesn't matter what I must do. Yeah, Adelaide's good. Good bakeries. Okay. 24 hour bakery. You can't find a 24 hour bakery in the Tron universe, can you? No, you would find a horrible room. You would find a horrible room. And they're selling bits and bites. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Not the bites you want. No. You want a bite from a delightful 24 hour bakery. Dude, everything, glass and reflections. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's awful. I think they have a version of a pancake parlor in the Tron universe. Well, that's fine, I guess.
Starting point is 01:42:48 They don't. No, they don't. I only have it in Adelaide, yeah. Got any more letters? Because I've got... Now, that's all the letters. All right. Let's do this one from Dylan, who says,
Starting point is 01:42:58 what was your duo's favorite game within the Tron video game? I think it was Tron 2.0, but only the light cycle stuff. Okay. Because it was, you got to do actual light cycling. It wasn't like just going down a track. whatever and it felt like the original movie yeah um but yeah what about you i don't remember any of them original tron arcade don't remember it at all yes tron uprising or whatever it's called legacy no no let me like squiggly do this one as well i guess is no assa squiggly do this one yeah we're
Starting point is 01:43:29 squiggly do it i was hoping you could relay a message for me for the past three years somebody has been covering my town with batman murals it's been causing a bit of controversy in the community some people say this person is a criminal who should turn themselves in yeah They're definitely going to do that. Others say they're giving the city character. Batman Graffiti person, if you listen to this, don't stop. You're the Vandal Moose Jaws. Moose Jor deserves.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Moose Jor. Do we know where Moose Jor is? Let's find out. There's probably more than one Moose Jor. Do you have any pictures of the graffiti? There was some. It's in the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Group if you want to check it out.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Okay. Is Moose Jor one word or two? It is two words. Okay, all right. Oh my goodness. Yeah, there's a lot of graffiti going on here. You can Google it and... I don't feel like this is the same. same person.
Starting point is 01:44:11 But this art is very different unless they're very talented. Oh, you think it's a, um... I think this is like a viral contagion, if you were. Could be viral contagion, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I don't approve of crimes. Okay, I got to see... I've gone on the record here.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Yeah, I got to see, because I'm a big fan of street art in general, but I've got to know, like, what the quality of it is. How are you doing about this then? Oh, I like him. He's a little, um, cartoony Batman. He's got little sunglasses on. Yeah, there's good things going on here, Mason. The real word is fun.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Yep. Okay, that's fun. And then, okay, there's a, there's a, there's a penguin and bane one. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I guess if they're good, that's fine. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:49 They wouldn't have to be that good. They just have to have like a, they have to have a spirit to them. They have to be, yeah, recognisably Batman and have a spirit too. Well, yeah, I mean, they have to be a recognizable IP. Yeah, obviously. What are we doing? That's exactly right. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 01:45:01 I'm quietly confident that that's the end of the show and you should wrap it up. I think it is absolutely the end of the show. I think we should go to our third member to wrap up the show. Okay, here we go. Hey, can you finish the show for us? No. Damn, man. What do we even do now?
Starting point is 01:45:13 Wow, I guess it's my job then, is it? All right, well, thank you. So much for outsourcing. Yeah, exactly. So much for outsourcing to child life, which we would have loved to do years ago. Had we known that was an option. Anyway, folks, thank you so much for listening.
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Starting point is 01:47:20 You'll love a T-shirt, Mason. You and Andy Ann L's upcoming episode of their 500 million episodes? I haven't booked anything in, but I probably should. Yeah, that's coming up next weekend, isn't it? That's right. Our friends are over at two in the think tank where every episode. Do it. Every episode they come up with five sketch ideas.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Their 500 episode is coming up. where they're going to come up with 500 sketch ideas over the span of time of who knows? They don't know either. Could be 100 years. It's a hell of a time. Yes. But unfortunately, for them, it's going to be appreciated.
Starting point is 01:47:50 You can tune in. We'll provide the link at some point and you can check it out. So hopefully we can pop in at some point. And it won't be washed. It will be buss and not chopped. That's correct. That is so true, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:48:02 Next week, what's the thing we're going to do? Maybe a theme song week. What? What? You said a theme song week. I know what I said. Okay, great. Maybe a topic.
Starting point is 01:48:11 I do have a topic in mind I've been wanting to do. It's our best and worst movies that became TV shows. Oh. So, you know, like, you know, because we're getting a lot of that. We're like, now this is a TV show. Yeah. This, the quality of this movie, well, they're no longer bringing in numbers and people don't like it.
Starting point is 01:48:27 We're going to turn it into a TV show. So true. But sometimes then it's a streaming model. It's a whole different thing and then Star Wars or whatever. I think it's interesting. It is interesting. It's worth discussion. I like talking about interesting things.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Me too. All right. So should we say goodbye? We should say goodbye. All right, goodbye, everyone. Grabed our Gemma, guys. We'll see next week. Do you want to say goodbye or are you happy to just not?
Starting point is 01:48:44 No. Okay, fair enough. Should we all get sushi? How about that? No. Whoa, not even sushi. Yeah, but we need dinner. It's dinner time.
Starting point is 01:48:54 No, it's not. It is. It's six o'clock in the evening. No, it's not. It is. It is. James is a liar. He's trying to get his kids in on the lie, but they won't buy it.
Starting point is 01:49:04 Why don't anyone get sushi with me? They've got more honor and dignity than you, James. your children? That's certainly true, Mason. Okay, bye, everyone. On October 17th, I'm an angel. See the wings?
Starting point is 01:49:15 Don't miss the new comedy Good Fortune starring Seth Rogen, Aziz Ansari, and Keanu Reeves. Critics rave. It's heaven cent. You have a budget, guardian angel? Kind of.
Starting point is 01:49:23 You were very unhelpful. Good fortune, directed by Aziz Ansari.

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