The Weekly Planet - 597 The Mattel Cinematic Universe & Why Tron: Ares Bombed

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

It’s a big news week at The Weekly Planet hq! We’re getting into the reasons behind the bombing of Tron: Ares, trailers for Wonder Man, Invincible Season 4 and Send Help, Sigourney Weaver ret...urning to the Alien and an update on all things Mattel and movies! Plus we talk the passing of two legends, Diane Keaton and Drew Struzan. Thanks for listening!New bonus book club episode and it's Predator vs Wolverine! Entire back catalogue also available now with let's play videos, exclusive pods, Q&As, ad-free feeds and early access on bigsandwich.co PLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start00:45 Jim Carrey The Jetsons Movie06:37 RIP Diane Keaton & Drew Struzan13:00 Why Tron: Ares Bombed at Box Office28:30 Invincible S4 Trailer33:10 Wonder Man Trailer41:24 Send Help Trailer44:59 Sigourney Weaver ALIEN Return Maybe49:40 The Mattel Universe & Upcoming Movies59:05 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:05:48 Letters, It’s Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Book on emirates.ca. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the weekly planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always is Nick Mason holding a can. It's great to be here. Unbelievable. Unbelievable what you've done just then. That's right. Disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Is it? The way you went to open the can and I motioned to you like we're doing something together. And your tone suggested we were teaming up as well. on something, on some great artistic project. At what point during that did you decide not to help me out there? To leave me dangling, because it looked like you were going to do it. The moment you looked at it, you looked at the can... This is nothing to anybody.
Starting point is 00:01:13 No, it's not. Wow. Anyways, we're recording a... Unbelievable. Unbelievable. We're recording a little bit early. Not in the day. No, not in the day.
Starting point is 00:01:23 In the week. In the week, yeah. So if you're like, you didn't even talk about Jim Carrey doing a George Jetson movie. Well, we missed it. That's right. It's a George Jetson's solo movie? It's a George Jetson. It's not an origin movie.
Starting point is 00:01:34 It's set in the far future even more. Okay, I was going to say, because the Jetsons are set in the far future. All his family are dead. Wow, okay. Did he kill them? I think he killed them, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Is it like one of those Jim Carrey psychological ones where it's like he's all unraveling or whatever? Yeah, it's probably a spoiler, isn't it? Because he'll do longing looks at Jane, his wife, and daughter Judy and whatever the son's name. The robot or whatever. The robot, Rosie, the robot or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And he'll keep looking at him. and then slowly we'll be like, wait a second, where are they? And then at the end, it'll be like, I'll kill them. I'll kill them. I put him on the treadmill that kills you, the future treadmill. Huge treadmill, yeah, exactly. God, hell of a show, probably. That's why he's always training on that future treadmill.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah. So he wouldn't be killed. It also makes sense that like... Yeah, it makes sense. That it would be in the far-flung future future, because Jim Carrey's, what, like 62, 63. Uh-huh. So George Edson's supposed to be a man in his 40s.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Oh, I see what you're saying, right? It's what I'm saying. I bet he's supposed to be in his 20s. Let me check. A.I. How old is GROC? GROC? What is the canonical age of George Jetson and the Jetsons? I bet he's like 39. If you say so.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I don't know. If you say so. GROC says he's 40 because he was born in 2022. What would GROC know? No, it was just Google AI. It was born in 2022 and Jetsons is set in 1966. First, what would Google AI know? I'll tell you this, James, because we have been covering the Predator movies for Caravan of Garvin.
Starting point is 00:02:57 It's true. Well, that hasn't started. No, that's true. But I was watching Predator 2 this week, and I'm like, is Danny Glover wearing two-tone shoes? So I googled Danny Glover. What I did initially is I Google Danny Glover, Predator 2, Spectator Shoes, which are what those...
Starting point is 00:03:14 And you knew the name of the shoes going in. That's a technical term for two-tone shoes. And Google AI says, Danny Glover's character and Predator 2, and I didn't ask for this, does not wear Spectator shoes in the film. But he does. Well, then I Google. called Predator Danny Glover two-tone shoes. And he says Danny Glover's character wore two-tone dress shoes and Predator T.
Starting point is 00:03:34 What am I supposed to do with this? Who am I supposed to turn to in this hour of need? That's what I'm saying. Oh, do you need help? Yes. I don't know, man. I'm just saying it's not reliable. I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:03:43 He doesn't know anything. All right, well, while you've been like this, fucking barking away. But then I just rewound the video and it's like, yeah, he's wearing two-ton shoes. I can see them with my human eyes. I went to the George Jetson Wikipedia page. Also, his catchphrase is hubba-duba. I don't think it is. It's no yabba-dabadoo.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah, I get it. He was born in 2022. Yabababadoo, he was born in 22. And what is the show set? The show is set in 2016. In the year, one billion. No, it's 262 because it's 100 years after it came out. Oh, okay, right.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So, yeah, there we go. I can't wait for Jim Carrey to unretire again to $20 million or whatever it does. That's right. Anyways, Mason. Real news of the week. That's not even a real bit of news that came out while we were recording this. This is all a guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We recorded it so early. It would be unusual if this action. happened if there was word on this which there won't be. You wouldn't read about it. You definitely wouldn't. Yeah. We're also going, it's going to be a big news week actually. We're going to talk about the passing away of Diane Keaton and Drew Struzen. We're going to talk about why Tron Ares, why is that not doing well?
Starting point is 00:04:41 Oh, yes. Why is a Tron movie with a sex criminal not doing well? We're going to ask why it's not doing well and why people in Hollywood think it's not doing well, which I think are very much different answers. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think we're also going to talk about some trailers, including Invincible Season 4, Wonder Man and the movie Send Help which is Sam Ramey's latest
Starting point is 00:05:00 What was that other movie that It was called like, it was called Like Don't Move Get Over It Remember was there was somebody A woman she got poisoned or something And every time she moved she got more poisoned And we saw the trailer for that Didn't that have come out? It was called Don't Get Poisoned
Starting point is 00:05:12 Is You Getting Poisoned? Yes Oh, okay Thanks It's about a woman avoiding getting poisoned Is that right? I think she had been poisoned I don't drink that
Starting point is 00:05:20 No, it says bleach on the side I wasn't going to drink it Don't drink it That's a warning Well now I want to drink it Because you keep telling me not to drink it. And you know I'm not going to drink it. I've already said, you're kind of annoying, honestly.
Starting point is 00:05:32 So I'm going to drink this blade. Oh, I'm drunk it. Oh, no, I'm drinking it. I'm still drinking it. Shouldn't have drunk it. Well, I'm going to keep drinking it now. I may as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:40 In for a penny in from a pound. We're going to talk about Sigourney Weaver returning to the alien franchise. Oh. A thing that's sure. Why not? Sure, Mason. We're also going to talk about the future of the Mattel universe. The Mattel universe.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Mattelverse. I'm sure. Welcome. The television? Nope. In television? Yes. Correct. And that's going to be the show, I reckon. That'll probably be the show. It's a big news episode. It is. Big news episode. Too many news. Maybe slightly shorter episode. I don't know. It depends how many riffs. That's right. We've already started with a banger about that Jim Carrey thing. That was a riff because it wouldn't have actually happened. What if it did, though? Yeah, I doubt it. If it does, it has. We retire.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Okay. It doesn't have to be George Jets. No. Okay. If Jim Carrey announces that he is, in a, like a live-action revival of like a 1960s TV cartoon or something. Wow. Wow. It's real, Mason. Okay. I'd just spoil it for you. Colin Travorrow's going to direct.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And he was my favourite Jurassic World Director, maybe. I don't know. So that is real? Yeah, it's real. Why'd you do that to me? Because you tricked me with it, because I tricked you. I was trying to trick you. I thought we were both doing a riff on a thing we knew to be real.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I was like, that's too stupid to be real. real. James has come up with a thing too stupid even for us. He's a stupid man, but not that's stupid. Well, I am. Okay, well, that's real news. Yeah, okay. From three hours ago.
Starting point is 00:07:05 There's time codes below if you do want to check out anything, Mason. Dian Keaton passed away at age 79. Boo too young, I say. Yeah. Apparently, just according to a family, all that's been said, it's a sudden health decline. That could be any number of things. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Amazing actor. Annie Hall, the godfathers, Father of the Bride movies. That's right. Among other things. Incredible work. I thought this is a really interesting quote from 2019 on why she was never married.
Starting point is 00:07:37 She did have like high profile relationships and whatever. I think Al Pacino was like, Whoa, should have married her. Or someone said that. Yeah, but she was like, nah. Yeah. And you're dumb. Yeah, and he's having kids now. What are you doing Al Pacino?
Starting point is 00:07:49 I think she made the right decision. Yeah, yeah. Whoa, why do I have a baby? Do you know how babies are made? She said, I remember one day in high school, this guy came up to me and said, one day you're going to make a good wife. And I thought, I don't want to be a wife. No.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I love that. That's a lot of track, just big. What a stupid thing to say to somebody. Did you have a guest starting the good wife? Yes. Wow. But she was not wiped in that, I believe. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah. Also, she adopted two children in her 50. She was like, I'd like to have some kids. And then was like, yeah, now's a good time. I got a minute. And she did. I think that's wonderful. And those kids are us.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's not as wonderful. No. She could have chosen better, obviously. I don't know. It's one of those actors also, whenever you see her anything, you're like, great, you know? Always a good inclusion. Always did solid work. It seemed like a very nice person.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Didn't marry Warren Beatty. I think that's incredible. Great outfits. Great outfits. Yeah, exactly. I was wearing like a, often wearing a suit and tie. Sometimes a turtleneck. Sometimes a turtleneck.
Starting point is 00:08:52 All of that is really good. stuff. So, RAP, one of the greats. That's right. And speaking of one of the great, Drew Struzen has passed away at age 78. The greatest case of nominative determinism in history. Yeah. He loved to Drew. He loved to Struzen. He was always Struzen for a bruise. He was always making a Struzen, which was his people's, it's like a strudel. Yeah, it was like a strudal. A strudal for Susan. Yeah. What are we doing? You started this. I know. I was hoping you could finish it, mate. So we'll talk about his work in particular, but he was living with Alzheimer's disease
Starting point is 00:09:29 for several years. He stopped public appearances and signing autographs and painting. And you might be like, oh, what specifically would he have painted? Maybe you haven't heard of him. Just name an iconic poster and he probably did it. Yeah. So everything, Star Wars, not everything, but the ones that you know, Harry Potter, Back to the Future Indiana Jones, Blade Runner, ET.
Starting point is 00:09:50 It's that photo realistic style where you like, Are these just photos? Yeah. But they're not. He drew. He's trusend him. Gave him a good coating of struzen. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:59 There's a few quotes from a number of people about his life, including Stephen Spielberg. But I like this one from George Locus, who said, Drew was an artist of the highest order. His illustrations fully captured the excitement, tone, and spirit of each of my films his artwork represented. His creativity through a single illustrated image opened up to a world full of vivid color, even at a glance. I was lucky to have worked with him time and time again. you can like you can pick his work you know exactly what it is yeah yeah it's been like it became like the standard for movie posters that's true yeah but none of them i feel like as good as the work that he no like his composition of like oh you know amazing you just pick the right
Starting point is 00:10:36 face yeah yeah yeah like he could put a bunch of faces on a poster and you like it whereas now you see a bunch of posters and you just vomit you just keep vomiting god so yeah hell of a career 78 as well not you know not a great great age to be going out of, but incredible legacy. The Back to the Future poster, that's painted. You would have assumed, I've always assumed that was a photo. I know there was, there was a reference photo, I assume. Oh, the big trouble in a little China photo, the poster?
Starting point is 00:11:05 No, he traced that one though. I did, okay, you Greg landed it. Yeah, exactly. No, obviously not. One of the iconic blade runner. Yep, exactly. I can't fucking find the, the, the, hellboy, a couple of Hellboy posters. Great.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I know that's probably a number of YouTube videos, but, oh yeah, there's a, it's from the, it must be from the Phantom Manus documentary, but you can just look up this video. It's on YouTube. It's called Drew Struzen creates the Phantom Menace poster. Oh, yes. And it's just seeing, if you just want to see like a three minute, just kind of break down of his work. And it's just, let me look at this sketch of Liam Neeson's face.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah. My goodness. Oh, he's tracing it. Oh, no, he's not. He's just putting it through a big photocopier. He's got a big photocopier. and it's been coloured like it's a pencil. A big bit of it's red
Starting point is 00:11:55 and then there's like a little bit of metal and then there's the eraser. It's beautiful work really when you think about it. Oh, he did the thing poster? Yeah, he did, yeah. Which I think John Carpenter didn't like. Oh, well. Well, he's wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It's a great poster. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing John Carpenter likes these days is bloody call the duty or whatever. Yeah, it's true. Very true and very Drew. True and Drew.
Starting point is 00:12:16 So two legends of the industry. Oh, the Masters of the Universe poster. I didn't know he did that one. Yeah. Awesome. Nice. I think he came back for the Force Awakens. Yeah. I believe.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And he did some Dark Horse Star Wars covers. Yeah, he did. And that's just because, I think it was Ron Mars who was writing those, just contacted him and was like, can you do a couple of covers? And he's like, yeah, I'd love to do a couple of covers. I believe also he did Shadow the Empire. Did he do that one? I think he might have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Have you seen the Superman comic that he did? No. Yeah. So it's this one. and what I love about this so it's Superman lifting a car and there's people running away
Starting point is 00:12:55 and one of the people is just him at the front oh yeah yeah yeah he put himself in it I think that's wonderful so
Starting point is 00:13:02 God that's really good stuff it's got like like the glow that he manages to do like his use of light amazing anyway I don't care what you say most
Starting point is 00:13:11 and I think he's a legend I agree with you okay well I don't care wow I don't need your approval but I don't know but I don't know what's real about you anymore after you lied about Drew Carey being George Jetson.
Starting point is 00:13:24 No one said Drew Carey. Are you, that's what I've been thinking. I didn't lie. Yeah. It's a thing that happened. I know. It is happening, maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:33 All right, Mason, we've got to do some sad news also, some additionally sad news. I don't want more sad news, but all right. It's about Tron. Oh. It sounds a bit funny. It is funny. Yeah. Tron Ares.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I should point out if anybody's thinking maybe there's a little bit of a tense air to this episode, it's because James is wielding a knife. It's been wheeling a knife since the start of the podcast. It's for camping. It's for my daughter. It's a blunt, like, practice knife. Have a look. It's not a real knife.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah! Dude, that cut clean through the table. I know. Didn't even make a noise. It shouldn't be able to do that. It's crazy. It's because my skills with a blade. While you were learning podcasting, I was learning the blade.
Starting point is 00:14:11 So when I was learning podcasting and you were coming into do podcasting. Yes. So before the show, when I set up and do the show notes, you're learning the blade. Yeah, that's right. You haven't you heard me going here? Well, I mastered the Roadcaster. Yeah, that's right. You learned the play, did you?
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yes. Yeah. So, Tron Ares, in our review of it last week, the projections were a $50 million US opening. Okay. But then by the time our review came out, because I think we recorded on the Saturday, it dropped to like 33.5. That's less. Yeah, it's way less than they wanted. It was also tracking pretty well, it seems.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It made $50 million globally. It's still not out in China So it could Maybe they love Jared Leto in China Yeah, maybe someone in China loves Jared Leto Yeah, maybe So there's just been a number of think pieces
Starting point is 00:15:01 And just discussion online about Why has Tron Aries bombed? Yes I mean, we know, obviously But I just find some of these Very interesting I can go through some things Please, I would love to know
Starting point is 00:15:12 What the experts think Before we chime in I want you to interject If you have something to say as well I don't want you to sit there Stony face and silence You say that. Your mouth says that, but your hands say you've got that knife. I've unlocked this knife again. I was going to say the safety is off the knife. So I do feel
Starting point is 00:15:28 fear. And maybe I will stay safe. I think that's good that you feel fear. I think it makes for better podcasting. So Forbes have an article called Whitechon Ares crashed and burned while Roofman was so sell at the box office. Don't worry about Roof Man. I know what Roof Man is. I'm just telling everybody. Don't worry about it's discussion for another day. Apparently it's a delight. I haven't seen it. People say it's good. People say it's been pictures of comedy, but that's actually a very heartfelt story. exactly you know so there's a number of points that this makes are they think on the upper end of this 180 million dollar budget it it could make 225 that is the upper limit okay so that's
Starting point is 00:16:00 not breaking even no that will not break even yeah uh not by a long shot then they're saying it's probably closer to 190 but it could potentially be 170 million dollars so a big loss yes one of the one of the points in the article is that nobody cares about a few video game things in the real world like i've seen things where things come to the real world like a Minecraft Right, okay, yeah. Did that come to the real or not really. But like, if you see one thing flying around on a bike, it's not enough to get people involved. Pixels.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Pixels, for example, great movie. Yeah. It makes the case also that it's not appealing to kids because kids don't know or care about Tron. Yeah. It's also not appealing to parents because they have to take their kids to the movies. To see Tron. Yeah. And so it's not falling into like the F1 dad bracket.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah, yeah. I know it's not strictly for dads, but let's be real. Yeah. It is. It's for divorced dads. It is kind of, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And it's not like Wicked or Minecraft or whatever where kids are like, I demand to see this. Right. But they also, oh, just quickly, I just wanted to say a Minecraft 2 movie got a release date, July 23rd, 2027, which is when the Simpsons sequel comes out. So that's interesting. One of them will move. It'll probably be the Simpsons. It'll be the Simpsons for sure, yeah. Yeah. So this is interesting as well.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Do you think Tron could have used a Jack Black, for example? skibbity-do, skibbity toilet. Recogniser, he could say. He could say that. And we'd all go, woo-woo! I recognize her. Yeah. Recogniser, I hardly know. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:28 That knife is emboldened you, James. Yeah? Yeah. To make good jokes? Yes. Great. Yes. Building a big budget franchise sequel around a performer who,
Starting point is 00:17:36 oh, so it was about Geroletto, around a performer whose last nine years of pictures haven't lit the box office on fire, nor earned him much praise of note. And his public controversies and sexual assault accusations add to the reasons it's hard to understand Disney's choice
Starting point is 00:17:48 to proceed with this project Disney especially isn't it I know right they fired people for less yeah it's it's this is one of those ones
Starting point is 00:17:56 where in years to come I would love to you know read interviews listen to interviews with people the money men and the people are responsible
Starting point is 00:18:03 and women and women because somebody yes thank you this knife I agree with you I agree with you if only I had the knife
Starting point is 00:18:12 of equality do you want the knife that's fine it's fine um Not very of quality then, is it? Just have to people go, explain why they stumped up $180 million for this. Based on, you know, what research did they do?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Jared Ledo got a huge payout and then back end because he's got a producer's credit. Yeah, right. Yeah. That it must be he knows a guy, right? Yeah, he also started it in 2017, maybe. this version got kicked off, but he was, I think around the time he probably got Joker, the Joker, whenever he played the joke. Like, there was a bit of heat on him there, he'd run an Oscar, not as many, some, but not as Dallas Bios Club? Yeah, yes. Not as many
Starting point is 00:18:59 accusations had come out. Oh, and at a certain point, the wheels are turning. Yeah. And I guess you're like, I guess they're like, we've already put X amount of money into this. Yeah. We may as well just see how it turns out. They also made the decision to put him forward as like the front face of marketing as opposed to being like maybe we don't put this guy out which i'm not saying that would have helped because i don't know i don't think either way it would have really made a difference yeah i also don't think him being in it is the only reason it didn't do well no i mean i don't think it helped i think it helped zero yeah but i don't think it was the only reason no i mean tron really has no name recognition at all because nobody knows it's a guy the last
Starting point is 00:19:38 one yeah yeah who's not in it the last one was 15 years ago yeah 15 years ago yeah 15 years ago yeah and it's, you know, it's a cult movie, but that's not going to translate into box office success and why would it? Yeah. You know? That's a stupid thing to think. I reckon maybe it's an executive at Disney.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Like you said, the wheels were already in motion, and it's a guy, someone at Disney who likes Tron and is like, I would like to be producing this, or like, I'd like to be behind a new version of Tron, and I can say I was in making the new version of Tron or whatever. And they have enough, they have enough behind them, like, successes or whatever, that they can somehow eat $180 million loss. Absolutely. Imagine anybody, imagine anybody, anyone we know who sank $180 million, like, you never worked again.
Starting point is 00:20:30 If you worked in a normal company and you sunk $180,000, you would obviously be fired. If you stole $180 in petty cash, you would be fired. Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, it's wild. I think also they're looking for more properties because Disney and, because Star Wars. Boy stuff. Boy stuff. We talk about this.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Pixar, Star Wars, Marvel. It's not performing as it used to. And so they're like, and there was an era of this when the last Mtron movie came out, when they were, their animated stuff wasn't doing well. This is before Frozen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so they were looking for things. I hadn't bought Marvel yet.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if also there's a creative accountant. way where you can, even during the production if this, they're like, well, it won't do well, blah, blah, blah. Here's the highest potential, but even if it doesn't do well...
Starting point is 00:21:20 Two billion dollars. Yeah, yeah. Even if it doesn't do well, we can, you know, we'll sell it to the streamers for this amount and this amount and this amount. And so eventually we will make it back and it won't be a loss technically. It'll get X number of subscribers on Disney Plus or whatever or sustain people for longer.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Yeah, probably. Which is less and less plausible of an excuse these days, I think, the sense that who you're still getting. Yeah. You know, you're getting, everybody in the world who's got, who wants Disney Plus or Netflix or whatever it is, they already have it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 All you're doing maybe is recapturing those people that cancel and then resubscribe when they want to watch one thing. Yeah. Tron Aries. Exactly, yeah. My parents are going to watch Tron Aries. Totally. Didn't they already see it three times?
Starting point is 00:22:05 Yeah, they saw it. Yeah. There's another article by a THR, which is. I've seen in every format. And D-Box, obviously. This THR article is titled, No One Asked for This Reboot. Tron May mark the end of Jared Leto's franchise leading days. So, yeah, this is also Morbius as well.
Starting point is 00:22:22 There's been other Jared Letto stuff, I assume. He was the Joker, as mentioned. He sure was. This is an interesting quote where it says, In a world where Michael Fastbender, Ewan McGregor and Benedict Cumberbatch are having a hard time getting lead roles, why would you go to a person who can't open a movie and who has question marks around him as a person? That's from one top talent manager, which I think is totally valid. I think, yeah, he is an anchor more than anything else
Starting point is 00:22:43 And also another quote from somebody says I think this is interesting You could have had Ryan Gosling, it wasn't going to work No one asked for this reboot If you say Tronairus is good We just needed a different actor You're deluding yourself And I think that is also true
Starting point is 00:22:56 That's also probably true Yeah But I mean you would think If you were a Jared Leto Maybe you like That's a horrible thing to say to me Well, given that you're a Jared Letto Put yourself in the mind of Jared Letto
Starting point is 00:23:09 Not difficult Couldn't even for a second surely you'd be like well I'm producing this maybe you get a newer guy but I guess that isn't the the egotistical actor mindset just to be like I'll get Austin Butler as the new the new tron or whatever Neutron. Why would you get a neutron when you could have no tron?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Cameron Tronahan who is in this and Cameron Monaghan friend of the show we've never met him he released some footage of him doing some fight stunt work and fighting off a bunch of guys and that's that was all cut I'm pretty sure Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:41 No, there was some of it. He lost a leg and whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah. But we only really said that the aftermath. Yeah. All in all, we talked about it last week, I think you liked it a little bit more than me. I did, yeah. But I thought it was okay.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yeah. But he would be the guy. Yeah. You get him to be the... I think also you cut costs by not giving it to someone like Jared Ledo. And I think also the point of putting in in the real world is that like, isn't that supposed to be less expensive than building a fucking universe of computers or whatever? I also saw somebody suggest... Can't you do this cheaper?
Starting point is 00:24:12 It's my point. I saw somebody suggest this, and I would like your take on this, James. Someone said, well, if you made it like the creator, it would be cheaper. But I don't know what the process of this was. Yeah. Is this the Marvel method of just constantly churning through visual effects options until you settle on something and it takes 10 times as long and it costs 10 times as much? Or were they already doing it in the style of the creator where they've already got all the shots locked down
Starting point is 00:24:40 and all the visual effects, concepts locked down, and they just have to make them once. Yeah. Again, we don't know. We don't know. It seems like they absolutely didn't do that. The other thing is like maybe you do, maybe they could have,
Starting point is 00:24:51 and this would be more than nostalgia, but you recreate the 80s aesthetic. Because surely that is not as expensive. Because there's less reflective surfaces. That's probably true, yeah. I don't know whether, I don't even think that would save this. Because spoilers for the movie,
Starting point is 00:25:03 and we mentioned it in the pot. And it's on the past last time. Is it? Yeah. The 80s bit. The jeopardy stuff there. Ares goes to a version of the 80s Tron. It's a small, like a small server that's got some 80s Tron stuff
Starting point is 00:25:16 and it's a way simpler, graphical thing. I feel bad for everybody. I bet under the surface it's exactly as complicated. Yeah, I mean, it probably is, yeah. I mean, I'm going in and out of the, like, the Tron subreddit. They're having the bad time. And some of those people are just diluting themselves. They've been hanging out in there for years.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah, and look, it sucks because you're a massive fan of this thing and this thing came out and there aren't people like, oh, but, you know, trying to justify it. Like, maybe it'll find a second life and maybe it's not so bad. It's bad. That's a video game of second life. I can't stress this enough. This is bad.
Starting point is 00:25:45 This is bad for Tron. This is... But what's new for Tron then? Yeah, exactly. This is See You in 15 to 20 years. Yeah. Maybe. When there's a new round of management at Disney and they've burned through whatever
Starting point is 00:25:56 the new... Or it's a show or whatever. I don't know. A sitcom. Jim Carrey could be Tron. It could be Tron. It could be Mr. Tron. If I had to change one thing, I think if they maybe made that disc a different
Starting point is 00:26:08 shape than a triangle that might have fixed everything i think so yeah can you imagine like a rectangle disc that you throw oh my god yes i reckon that would have made uh probably when i added another 500 million dollars to this oh absolutely uh what about um different color like a different colored light that you're wearing no no no no i'm just trying to think of different shapes oh different shapes maybe like uh maybe a sphere like a ball no maybe like um what's a what's it like a rectangle but not all the sides of the equal a rhombus oh like it's squashed down yeah maybe yeah apparently Parallelogram? Maybe it could be a parallelogram.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah, okay. I used to know a lot of shapes when I was a teacher, but now I don't know any shapes. Maybe it could be an origami. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Like a beautiful dove or swan. Yeah, like a swan. I think that's good.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Maybe we could be one of those Chinese takeaway things where they turn the aluminium foil into a small. Yeah. Okay. Well, last question for you about Tron. If they made this more of a direct sequel to the last one, you're bringing back Olivia Wilde and Gary. Wouldn't have helped it. You don't think?
Starting point is 00:27:01 You don't have helped it at all? No, I don't think so. Okay. Because who's seen it? Yeah. Not enough. not a again like but I think a lot of people who love tron at least would have got something that's yeah they've been waiting for but then but then what like then where's the chain
Starting point is 00:27:16 you know what I mean yeah you need to for one of these to be a big head you think we'd be having a conversation that why would you make a direct conversation why would you make why would you make why would you make a tron sequel to a movie that nobody remembers also that yeah this was a failure from from moment one it's crazy that they didn't the I mean the I think the only way forward would have been Joseph Kaczynski a year after... I was going to say, immediate cycle, right? Oh, that, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I reckon straight after Top Gun Maverick, what's Joseph Kaczynski to get Tom Cruise to produce it or something? He's Tron. He's Tron. He's Tron. He's little Tron. I'm Tron Cruz. And he's got a weird shape, origami thing.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Shape like Scientology. Oh, my God. Yeah. Cool. No, I think this was dead in the water. Yeah. It's, and because you, it's like the Marvel stuff or it's like the Snyderverse where they're like, oh, we're all going to get together, we're all going to watch this. You can't move the needle.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It's impossible. You cannot, even if everybody in the tron, even if everybody in the Tron subreddit sees it, you're not making the money back. You need, you need tens of millions of normal people to watch it and they're not going to. What are you talking about? It's a great point. Tens of millions of normal people watching a Tron. I know. You've lost it.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I guess that's the end of Tron Talk now and forever. I guess it is. Yeah. And I think, yeah, they're not going to be giving Jared Lotto a $180 million franchise movie anymore, I guess, which I'm excited. I could have told you.
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Starting point is 00:29:39 Invincible season four On New York Comic Con or whatever happened Oh yes Something So did Pax Australia That's what I say to everybody I know who went to that Which is a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:29:50 You're saying that Because you're just exhausted Under the weight of all the Funkerpops You purchased at Pax Australia Yes That is why I'm saying that Yeah I don't know why I'm still carrying them
Starting point is 00:30:02 Because you love them I do Invincible Season 4. They do their classic sit down and a dine to have a chat. This time it's Eve with Mr. Invincible. And, of course, the whole city's been destroyed because of what happened. There's a big Invincible fight. All the stuff that happened.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I love these little trailers. We get snippers of the people working behind the scenes and what they're working on. Do you love James? Yeah, probably. I do love with all my whole heart. No, no, not true. You're real Tom Cruise. Do you hear Manana Diamas broke up maybe?
Starting point is 00:30:31 What? Yeah, and that was real. Then I'm in with a chance. Yes. either doesn't matter doesn't matter yeah do you think their movie didn't go through that they were supposed to make underwater time or whatever remember they're going to make a deep sea diving movie and then it got delayed i don't remember that and i think they'll setting up this this thing to happen i see right i think that's what's happened here what we're talking about oh yeah um do you love james
Starting point is 00:30:51 i love for with all my heart no it's not good do you love that they're using they they use that really expensive animator for these and then when they go back to the tv show it's it's It's kind of... They outsource it to something. Or they outsource this and then they in-house the rest of the show, which doesn't look as good. Yeah. No, I don't love that, I don't like it either.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah. You've got so much money, Amazon. What are you doing? I guess animation takes time. I don't have time. I want it now. Yeah, I want it now too. Just like this Amazon purchase that I made, this knife and this protein bars.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Do you crack up in the protein bars? Do you want one? I wouldn't like one. You probably wouldn't. It looks good. Yeah, you think it's good. It's a white chalk raspberry, but I'd be like that, this tastes like chalk. I couldn't tell you whether that's true or not.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I like them. How about I give you one for the road? You can eat it in the car. Oh, it's so exciting. I can have it for breakfast before I go to work tomorrow. You can definitely have for breakfast. Have a big vom before you go to work. A big form?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah. A couple of things from this trailer also is that Lee Pace is General Thrague, who's the main vultramite emperor villain guy. What's his deal? Is he big? He's big, yeah, he's the strongest and the biggest. Strongest and the biggest? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Sounds like the stakes are higher than ever. Mason, let me tell you. The stakes are higher than ever. Because Lee Pace has put him on a big tall shelf. He's put it, yeah, Lee Pace would also make a good live action version of this guy. He's big. He's big as well. He was in the, I was going to say the Pokemon movie.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I don't think that's true, but he was on the Hobbit movie. He was on the Hobbit movie. He was on the Hobbit movie? He was Mr. What's his name? Yeah. He was a Ronan the accuser? Correct. He was also.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Ronan Keating, yes. He was. In the Ronan Boyzone, Roemanman's said it best when he said nothing at all. That's right. Apparently Robert Kirkman, who of course, did the comic, wrote the comic. he had Lee Pace in mind before the show even existed. So, yeah, there you go. Well, I'd like to see proof of that.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Maybe like you wrote it down a piece of paper, you're mailed it to yourself. It's got a stamp on it. Maybe you're holding a newspaper with that date, and it's a picture. That's not got, yeah. You don't like that? Well, you could just, I mean, Robert Kirkman's rich now. You could probably just purchase a newspaper from that day. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 You know. We can't trust anybody, can't trust anybody. It's, everyone's against us. But just to be clear, you really want proof of this. Yes, I do. Yes. That's right Otherwise any time we talk about Invincible in the future
Starting point is 00:33:05 Or any of other Robert Kirkman's future projects We're going to have to start with Robert Kirkman Potential Huge Liar Yeah You know And that's going to crush his returns You know I think we should just do that
Starting point is 00:33:17 I think so too Because everyone's got the potential to be a huge liar That's true isn't it And we may as well just say he's the one So you're okay with that The biggest liar The biggest liar potentially Yeah potentially in the world
Starting point is 00:33:27 release date for this is March 26 due to cutting edge animation techniques and not cutting corners they're pumping these out one a year which look selfishly yeah that's good for me because I don't need to be
Starting point is 00:33:41 waiting around for this I mean they are better animated than the comic books which are not animated at all yeah you're right actually I knew there was something missing from those and there's barely any sounds it's only the sound of turning a page which I'm doing
Starting point is 00:33:52 I'm making that noise yeah they should be paying you and also the sound of me get a kickback I should It's also the sound of me reading out loud Which is how I read And dead Thrag said
Starting point is 00:34:03 I'm gonna get you Mr Invincible I'm the biggest guy My mustache is on my face Well I'm little but I'm crafty That's Invincible It is So that's good And I can do big punches
Starting point is 00:34:15 Woo Wonder Man Oh yeah Eight episode mini series Which is coming out in January 27th of next year Do you know this was filmed in April of
Starting point is 00:34:28 23. That is when it started. This has been a long delay. This has been in the can. Also, we've had Yaya Abdul Mateen show up at various premieres. Oh yeah. That's true. That's true. What's he doing? But I mean... Stop doing that. I'm just trying. No, like five years ago,
Starting point is 00:34:45 five years ago, maybe more than five years ago, people would have been out of their minds. Oh my God. How is this even real? That just came and went. Nobody cares. Yeah, because they get moving this around. Yeah, yeah. So what phase of Marvel is this part of? if you had to guess. Six or seven.
Starting point is 00:34:59 You're going to lock six or seven in? Yeah. But you get more points if you pick one or the other. Seven. It's six. Is it? But that's more points. You get more points for getting it wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Oh, great. I love this game. Yeah, it's good, isn't it? So it's in the current phase of Fantastic Four, etc. That's great. So I like the trailer. Me too. It's a bit of a meta commentary on the Marvel universe itself.
Starting point is 00:35:20 That's right. So it's the universe of the MCU. Yes, because it's got Trevor Slattery, We played by Ben Kingsley and the characters in the trailer mentioned that he used to be a terrorist. Yes. And it's also a world where Wonder Man was a character, was a superhero character from the 60s. In a series of movies or TV shows. Played by the guy who was the president in Superman, the modern day version.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Oh, no, he's the director. Oh, he's the director, is he? Yeah, he's like a, he's like a, this is like the franchise. This is a sort of, he's a visionary director who wouldn't normally touch this sort of thing. But he has a, he likes money. He has a vision for this particular character. And Yaya Abdul Mateen, the third plays Simon Williams, who is a guy who loved it, this character as a kid.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And it's like, well, I'm an actor, I could be this guy. Do you think the original guy was superpowered? No. This guy appears to not to be superpowered. At all, no. What is this? I don't know, but I'm excited. Same.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I think it's interesting in the same way that, like, Wondervision was like a meta-commentary on television, etc. Of course, as we know, the idea of putting superhero fatigue, superhero obsession on the screen in theory, glass can often be very bad. Glass, for example. But I think this is a good direction for Marble to go in. I don't even care if he never gets superpowers. I think this should be fun. I just like him running around with Travis Laddery. I think that'll be fun. Yeah, and that was also the movie Shang-Chi. Oh, yeah. You like Travis Laddery running around with different blokes? And different furry guys.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Different fairy little guy, chicken guys, whatever. Okay, great. As mentioned, eight episode mini-series January 27th of next year. Well, if it's finished, just release it now. Disney, what are you doing? I'll have a look at it right now. I'll have a look. Send us a screener.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I think we're going to know what Disney really thinks of this depending on the release schedule. Yeah, which has not been confirmed. If it's the Ironheart schedule, they don't like it. Or they don't think it's going to do well. It's also interesting because this was filmed quite a long time ago. Yeah. Which means why they've been sitting on this? Well, for a lot of reason.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Now, also, there has been some controversy or controversy, James. I don't know if you saw this. Some people have suspected that some of the art for the old Wonder Man... Oh, it's AI? His AI. Okay. And I'm not sure currently. What is interesting, because if you look at the Wonder Man, the old Wonder Man stuff,
Starting point is 00:37:40 there's a little... Is there a little clip of him battling in a... There might be in the actual trailer. I can have a look at that. He's at the Star Trek rocks. Oh. You know the rocks where Captain Kirk fights. the lizard man and I'm like have you added that in like I'm curious as to because
Starting point is 00:38:00 the thing about it is this the poster that you think might be AI'd yeah people think that's AI potentially I mean it looks like they actually printed it off or it's AI yes so well that's that's I think the live action stuff is real I would say so here's the thing though because there was that trend for a while where people would just go like AI 1950s sci-fi and would sort of draw it like that because it was drawing off
Starting point is 00:38:27 Wes Anderson and that sort of stuff and then they put in the studio Ghibli stuff and everything looked like it was in piss but they've removed the piss filter that's good actually so that's good yeah
Starting point is 00:38:38 yeah looking at this stuff this could be real I can't tell I don't I don't recognise do you recognise the actor who played the original Wonder Man no I don't know but it looks like
Starting point is 00:38:49 it looks a little bit like Bob from Thunderbolts I know it's not. It couldn't be, Mason. It's ridiculous. It couldn't be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Me too. There's a little poster, Hollywood reporter. Hollywood are experiencing superhero fatigue. Is it time to hang up the capes? Wonder Man? Yes, no more. None. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Anyway, I do think he's going to get superpowers. I don't know how. Ed Harris is in it. Oh. That is interesting. Wow. I wonder if he plays original Wonder Man or something in the modern day. Oh, he might do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I don't know. It's about the right age. That's true. I'm just looking around. Can't find. anything specifically. That guy could be a de-aged, Ed Harris. Yeah. Maybe. Also, they, I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:28 he was in Westworld and they got a younger guy to play here. That's true. They didn't simply get a young guy. They got a younger guy. No, they got, um... Yeah, they do. The guy. Jimmy Simpson. McPoyle. Yeah, one of the McFoyles. Destin Daniel Cretton is directing a couple of these. He's directing the... Is he doing the new
Starting point is 00:39:43 Spider-Man movie? Yes, he is. Yeah, and he did the Shongchee movie. Cool. That's right. He's the guy. Great. I'm excited for that. I'm looking forward to it. I wouldn't care if it's fun and funny and it's a good buddy thing and it's poking fun at marble in the style of Chehawk. I'm excited for it. I like Cheahawk a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:03 What if it's none of those things? If it was bad, I wouldn't like it. Yeah, okay. And also, it doesn't matter to me if you get superpowers or not, but I think you probably will. Yeah, he probably will. Probably fall in a vat or something. Yeah, a vat of film canisters.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah. How does he get powers in the comics? If my memory serves me correctly, I think he'd drink. a big tub of glue. Oh, yes. And then a laser hits him. The glue and the laser are unrelated. Okay, why'd you even mention the glue then?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Because they don't know whether it was the glue or the laser. Who doesn't? Stan Lee. He doesn't know. Okay, right. This is a hot debate. I'm surprised you don't know this. So the Daily Bugle headlines are always like,
Starting point is 00:40:45 glue or a laser question mark, and then a picture of him. Menace with glue or a laser? I don't know, man. That's my memory of it. You might have a different idea. Chemical and radiation treatments by Baron Zemo. Glue or laser.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Glou or laser. Shall we use the glue or the laser? Both. Yeah, well. And then we'll never know. It's a real dead cat in a box, but it's glue or laser. It's that idea of like when they put blanks in all the firing squad. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So I don't know who delivered the killing shot. the glue guy and the laser guy don't know who gave him superpowers so they're not, you know, racked with guilt for the rest of their lives. I think that's beautiful. What are you hoping for in this show? Yeah, just exactly what you said.
Starting point is 00:41:34 A bit of a farce, a bit of a runaround. I mean, that being said, we've had shows like the studio and the franchise, which is this. Yeah. So like, it's kind of, is it a bit late even? Do we put a Martin Scorses in there? Yeah, like, would this have been better if it came out? Several years ago?
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah. Before the studio, because I think a lot of people, maybe when it was filmed, it was 2023. Well, a lot of people didn't watch the franchise. No, nobody did. And that cancelled. But the studio does well. So I think there might be a bit of like, yeah, we've seen this. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:42:02 So, I don't know. And it doesn't have Martin Scorsese probably. Maybe they're filming a studio cameo. Maybe Seth Rokes is in this. The Big Rogue? Big Rogue. Mason. And he's playing Rogue.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Is he? Yeah. Whoa. Mason. Hey, Sugar. That dude smokes too much weed, I'm going to say it right here. Wow. Yeah, you should...
Starting point is 00:42:22 What's the correct amount of weed? No, he should go to jail. Any amount is no good and he should be in jail. Should be in jail. Yeah. You okay with that? Yeah, it's fine. I'm not him, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Mason? Yes. Send help. Okay. But also... Go on. Did you see this trailer? I did.
Starting point is 00:42:37 For the movie Wonder Man? Come on, man. Did you see the trailer for the movie Send Help? I did say it, yes. So, this is Rachel McAnams and Dillot No, Brian, but this is also more important... Was he jughead or something? No, you're thinking of Colin Spouse. I am thinking of...
Starting point is 00:42:49 Or Dylan Sprauss? Or Dylan Spruce? Yeah. Or Colin Firth. Or Colin Firth. Or a furfie. The beer. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Mason, Sam Ramey... This is Sam Ramey's first movie since Dr. Strange's second multiverse time. Which is good. And this is going back to his horror roots. Yes. Which I love. Of course, people also know that he did... You've had a few horror roots in your time.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Mate, never. I'm always make sure everybody has a good time. it's respectful but um just keep checking in you know what I mean yeah yeah consent oh you want me
Starting point is 00:43:25 to keep checking it with you not yeah you should keep me accountable obviously but yeah I'm just saying in general okay Dylan O'Brien was in Teen Wolf yeah
Starting point is 00:43:33 and he's great and he was in maze runner yeah he's the maze runner boy that's great yeah and he was he's the voice of bumblebee he was he's the voice of bumblebee
Starting point is 00:43:40 he is then they took his voice again yep yeah so Sam Ramey of course though his origin is horror movies Evil deads. He also goes back to it every now and then,
Starting point is 00:43:50 like you did Drag Me to Hell. You did that one where James Franco plays Wizard of Oz. That's obviously everybody's worst nightmare. But I'm excited to see this because this is the kind of stuff I think he does so well. Yes. And it's kind of like castaway misery island. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:06 So Rachel McAdams is an office worker and everybody makes fun of her because she's got bad hair and then bullier and stuff. Which is okay. Including the CEO, played by Dylan O'Brien, who's like, whey, I'm cocaine. I am cocaine. I am cocaine. But then they get stranded on it as an island.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And she's like, well, I'm actually good at all this survival stuff. Yes. And also, maybe I'll murder you. Maybe you murdered me. Maybe it's a twist. Yeah. Maybe we murder each other. Maybe we do the Rocky Punch and we punch and we punch each other at the same time.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And there's a painting of it. That's right, exactly. Yeah. Who painted that painting? Rocky. Then we've talked about Rocky painting. Rocky and Apollo painted half. Half each.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Oh. Do they pay in each other's half? Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. And they're accountable. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:51 You've got to keep them accountable. You've got to keep them accountable. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it becomes this, I don't know, does it, what do you think it's going to be one of those things where Dylan O'Brien, he's actually not as bad on the island now? No, I think he sucks. You think he still sucks the whole way? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And do you think, do you think Rachel McCatoms is going to be someone who sucks or they both, or she's good or what? I think they're both going to learn. They both suck and then are going to have a great time. Cool, man I guess that's how you do your roots Guyah Come on But don't disagree
Starting point is 00:45:28 This is at January 30th The same week as Wonder Man If you can believe that We can go straight from the movies To the home movies Of Disney Plus Yeah I mean I love that Sam Ramy
Starting point is 00:45:40 You know he'll do a blockbuster And whatever But I love that he would just go back And do this Stuff like this I think that's fantastic. And I like both of the leads in it. I think that's cool.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Plus, it probably wasn't that expensive. Probably wasn't that expensive. Filming on an island, it's fine. Yeah, it's probably filmed his backyard. He's like that. Yeah, it's funny. Evil Dead won money. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Mason, let's do this. I mean, Spider-Man money. He directed three Spider-Man movies. Mostly Evil Dead, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess. A New York Comic-Con, Josh Horowitz, spoke to Sigourney Weaver.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Oh, yes. And said, are you going to do more alien movies despite you saying you don't want to do anymore. Witson Weaver. Yes. And she said, Walter Hill, who is a long-time alien producer. He's a good friend of mine. He wrote 50 pages of where Ripley would be now, and they're quite extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I don't... Do you like that? No, I just think it's funny that Walter Hill is not going to pay attention to any of the decades of continuity of like... Absolutely not. ...of all this expanded media in the video games and probably any alien movie wasn't involved, and he doesn't care about any of that. He's just written 50 pages of whatever he felt like at the time. Do you think it's going to be Ripley 8, the clone of Ripley?
Starting point is 00:46:44 Probably. Yeah, that's the last thing he cared about. Yeah, I don't know if I want to see Ripley 8. And they're quite extraordinary. I don't know if it's going to happen, but I had a meeting with Fox or Disney. I love that. Great. Whoever.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I never felt the need. I have had a meeting with Fox or Disney. I've never felt the need. I'm always like, let her rest, let her recover. What Walder has written seems so true to me as much about the society that would incarcerate someone who has tried to help mankind. But she's a problem to them, so she's sort of tucked away. I think it's a very strong first 50 pages.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I think about working with Walter to see what the rest of the story would be. It would not be running around air shafts. It would be a very different kind of alien with a really good script. Scary. Do you think she's actually spoken to Walter, the robot? Oh, from... Covenant. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Do you think that she's been tricked? I think she's been tricked. Damn, that sucks, man. That's actually sucks. I think 10 years ago, yeah, I'd be like excited for this. Because there was, of course, the only other time we really heard about her coming back was the new Blom Camp. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:45 She didn't get very far. So, yeah, okay, legacy sequel, bring back the old person and whatever. The old person. That's the slogan. That's on the poster, bring back the old person. Yeah, but to be fair, like, she is one of the best. Yeah, I agree. So, and I really like that character.
Starting point is 00:47:59 What was she in recently? She was in a trailer for something. Mandalorian. Was it again? Mandelorian versus. Oh, yeah, and we all went, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And Michael Bean's been in the Mandalorian. Michael Bean's in the Mandalorian. Michael Bean and the mandible It's like bean No Because he's been No I don't like that
Starting point is 00:48:16 You don't like it No no no It's not for you That's for the listeners But I was again The knife has given you Too much confidence Did you put the knife down
Starting point is 00:48:23 Maybe I don't Maybe I won't And I can't That's what I figured That's what I figured It's a crutch now The knife is a crutch As an alien
Starting point is 00:48:33 Aficionado Is that me That's you I don't know What I think about Alien movies Yeah I guess
Starting point is 00:48:37 I've seen him I'm not gonna quiz you No Somebody's gonna quiz me like this franchise some of it. The implication is that I'm going to know all the name, the numbers of all the different planets and whatever, but I don't. That's not that kind of question. Okay. All right. Is this something you want? That's my question. Can you do that? Is that out of the fucking scope of your understanding? It might be. I'm going to have a big thing. What about Ripley's story doesn't have any closure? Do we need to close a loop on that? I mean, it also depends on where you go. Do you make it after aliens? Do you? Do you make it after aliens? Do you? Do you? You discount three and four. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I don't know. Do you team up Ripley and her daughter? Yeah. Because Ripley's daughter. Yep. She's in the games. She's in the games. Do you think Walter Hill knows about Ripley's daughter?
Starting point is 00:49:22 No, he absolutely doesn't. He doesn't know. He doesn't even know that she died in that file or whatever in aliens. He doesn't know. It was, yeah, Amanda Ripley. I'm going to write Walter Hill, Amanda Ripley. Okay. Yeah, I reckon team her up with a daughter.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I think that would work. That's good for me. And it's aliens again. It's fine. Agreed. Yeah. Or Alien again. Or Alien Romulus again.
Starting point is 00:49:44 It says they're not going to be crawling around shafts or whatever. Oh, well. Yeah. Well. Maybe they'll make it like a woke shaft, the last shaft movie. Yes. Hell of a movie. I agree.
Starting point is 00:49:54 You liked that though, didn't you? I'm being ironic, but you like Workshafed. I mean, I watched it in my house doing other things, but I'm sure at the time I'm like, it's all right. This is all right. Love this for you, nice. There we go. Why not?
Starting point is 00:50:08 I mean, Disney are trying to make things work. So maybe that one. All they're trying to make things worse. It's hard to tell sometimes. They didn't release Tron Ares. They did. They're trying to make money, but I don't know whether... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I guess a lot of them are from an era where they just got the job and then money was made around them. And they just assumed that that's how it's... Like one of those machines you get in on the prices, right? It shoots money up in your capture. But now they're actually having to make some decisions. Yeah. And they're like, we actually don't know how to do this. We got in when stuff was just making money on its own and we don't.
Starting point is 00:50:39 that's a fair point help what else can we buy are we bought everything we bought every single thing I mean they didn't buy Mattel did they no well speaking of
Starting point is 00:50:48 THHR had an article where they were spoken to Mattel studio boss Robbie Brenner oh yes yeah well you happy with this
Starting point is 00:50:55 I mean no I'm not just want to have a look what this Robbie Brenner looks like oh yeah not your classic studio executive look she's not wearing a suit
Starting point is 00:51:04 oh Robbie yeah not Robbie Williams I was thinking of Robbie Williams I was thinking like a man called Robbie, but he hasn't switched to Robert or Bob yet. I don't know about this.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Sounds like a young hot shot. Yeah, commit to something. Okay, Robbie Brenner. So, just to give everybody a recap, this is some of the things that are working and the metallverse has been working towards. Obviously, they're riding high after the success of Barbie. Yes. And then they said, Travis Knight, can you make Master of the Universe?
Starting point is 00:51:31 So that's happening. That's happening that's being made. Yep. Jared Leto is Skeletor. I don't think that's going to matter because he's mostly going to look like a skeleton. Correct, yes. Yeah. Unless there's flashbacks and he's a regular man.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Oh, yeah. Or he comes on earth and he's a regular man. I'm a regular man. I used a hologram. Exactly. That's right. That's going to be on T-shirts and everything. I bought my personality when I was that Tron guy or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:54 You're going to buy the Skeletor Act. They're going to release like retro action figures and you're going to click the back of the Skeletor one and he's going to be like, I use the hologram. I'm a regular man. Did you see? Yes. I can show you a picture of this.
Starting point is 00:52:06 My son and I were in the toy store the other day. Why would I have seen that? How could I have seen that? You didn't see this? It was on the news. It was a real ruckus. And we found some action figures that were crossover of He-Man and Transformers. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And let me tell you, Mason, they don't transform and they don't like that. What do you mean they don't transform? They're just like action figures. I'm trying to find it. Yeah, I know you're excited for me to see this. Can I just Google it really quick? Oh, yeah. Are they only exclusively at the toy shop you went to?
Starting point is 00:52:36 Here we got them right here. I want to show you because it's the picture of my picture. My son's face is wet. She's so mad. He hates it. Okay, there's a Bumblebee man at arms. Yeah, and a skeletal. They don't look anything like anything.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, exactly. They've taken the worst of every possible thing there. Look at this. He's furious, your son. What did they do to Bumblebee? Just make him into an armour. And it's just, it just looks like a skeleton. A better option would be...
Starting point is 00:53:03 The vehicles that they ride? No, the... Like, even... The better. option would be it's just a bumblebee toy and when you flip the head up it's man at arm's head yeah like that would be minimum effort yeah it's like get get you get bumblebee cybertron mode whereas the little flying source or whatever you flip the head up it's man at arms and that would be minimum effort and not good but it'd be better than that absolutely yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:53:28 anyway apologies to the hardworking designers who who man you're given a mandate you did it that's right yeah uh there's also a polypocket live action film with reese witherspoon's Hello Sunshine attached. Holy Pocket, unfamiliar, but I know, conceptually, I guess I know what it is. Yes. Lips in a little thing, you flip open a little. Yeah, and it's Marty Max. Yeah, I don't, I'm not familiar with that either.
Starting point is 00:53:48 It's the same thing. Open a thing and there's a little thing in it. My daughter has one. All right. She's written a Barney movie script for A24, which is produced by Daniel Kaluya. Okay, interesting. Whatever that looks like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I love that director, A24. Yeah, she's good, isn't he? Or she. That's right John M. Chew It's a man What? It's a man?
Starting point is 00:54:12 It is? Yeah Because it's an even number Oh yeah Good point John M Chu who did Wicked And other things He's working on a live action
Starting point is 00:54:21 Hot Wheels movie for Warner Brothers Okay Do you like the idea That wicked part one Is called Wicked Part 1 And Wicked Part 2 is called Wicked 4 Good Yes You like that
Starting point is 00:54:29 I like that It's interesting Doesn't everyone like that I like it? I just like everyone likes If everyone likes it I like it too Yeah
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yeah. Word is coming in that people like it, so we like it. We like it. But at the same time, Sam Hargraves, who's the guy, he's a start man, but now he does the extraction movies. Okay. He's working on a, he's currently shooting a matchbox film with John Sina and Jessica Bill and Apple and Apple. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:52 So that will look like an Apple movie. Yeah, great. So probably bad. But it's interesting they're doing Hot Wheels and Matchbox. Hmm. Because don't they, are they not compatible brands? I don't know. That's like being some type of Lego on a different.
Starting point is 00:55:06 type of Lego. Because when I was a kid, I'm sure I had Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars, but I don't know if ever had like, you know, Hot Wheels, it's all the big tracks and stuff. I never had any of those. They were just little cars. So I don't know, I don't even know if Matchbox cars are compatible with Hot Wheels tracks. Well, they're both Mattel. No, Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars are not the same. They're, I don't know why. Interesting. What's the difference? They both are die-cast brands owned by Mattel. Are they compatible? Yeah, they're compatible. They're both cars I guess one is tracks
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah One is tracks But like what is the What I mean These are questions that nobody knows the answer to But what's the personality of matchbox cars Like what's different cars Oh you know what it must
Starting point is 00:55:50 I reckon it probably is Hot Wheels is gonna be They're already Life Size cars And they're doing stunts on tracks and stuff Oh okay Plus a plot Whatever it is it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:56:01 Yeah And then matchbox cars Is their tiny little cars and then magic makes them become big cars. Or you get small. Or you get small. That works too. But I think the key there is in the name.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I think it's because matchbox cars. Yes. Hey, don't you remember matchbox cars? I've got one here. This was my dad's and now I have a... I'm not interested. I don't like virtual reality games. And the metaverse.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And making things with... Shut up, dad. Shut up. Yeah. Well, what if... Oh no, the car's... It's big now. Let's get in the car and have an adventure.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Shut up, dad. Shut up. I love you, dad, but shut up. I love you now, Dad. Shut up. But obviously, shut up. Shut up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:41 So also, and on Monday, this is from the article, Mattel generated. I took it for a drink on Tuesday. We're making love by Wednesday. That's how I do it, James. Do you? Yeah. Yeah, you do that every week?
Starting point is 00:56:52 Every week, it's exhausted. Seems exhausting. That's why I'm always late. Yeah. I'm always drunk. Yeah. On Monday, Mattel generated more buzz with the announcement of a magic eight ball. TV series.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Buzz. I didn't know about this at all. I read this article. Yeah, yeah. Directed by the Sixth Sense's M Night Shyamalan and... These are all so fake. What?
Starting point is 00:57:11 These are things in this... They put them in the studio. Some of these are filmed already all starting to film. It's like when they got Monscorsay to do the Kool-Aid movie. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's just that.
Starting point is 00:57:21 And Brad Falchuk, the Glee in America horror story is writing. Felchuk. Buzz. Buzz. On Monday. On Monday. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And then took it through... I didn't know that because I was taking for a drink on Tuesday. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. also on the topic of the He-Man movie just to get back to that
Starting point is 00:57:40 Robbie Brenner has seen a director's cut and she said I was absolutely blown away that will be our second theatrical movie I think it's a perfect compliment to Barbie for boys I think people are going to be so excited it's so much fun and feels so different I am pretty jazzed for He-Man yeah I think it's going to be pretty fun
Starting point is 00:57:57 like wacky stuff I hope so yeah yeah Magic 8 Ball movie I guess it's up haunted Magic A ball or whatever, right? Maybe. Is that, like, conceptually, is that a big thing in America? Because you see one occasionally in Australia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Right? My son, I don't know if we have one or he's friend, like a sarcastic one. Okay. It's like, you're a dumb ass. Shut up, Dad. Wait a minute. Okay. Am I going to have fun today?
Starting point is 00:58:26 Kill yourself. What? Wow. Wow. Yeah. Cool. So that's all the news that you can use. All the news you can use.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Should we move to the next segment of the show? Yes, but before we do that, I just remembered, as you know, I love seeing AI-generated movie posters. I do know that about you. I love that you love this. And obviously, you know, a lot of those are AI-generated movies we just talked about because they're not real and they're bad and they're awful. But I saw, they crop up on Instagram for me and this is my favorite one. This is my favorite recent one.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Oh, my God. Live action The Iron Giant where the head of the Iron Giant is Vin Diesel's actual head. Yep. There's a boy there. I don't know who the boy is. of the boys and there's a woman there who sort of looks like Kristen wig maybe look a little closer oh it's Emily Blunt Emily Blunt but she's in a bikini and she's in a bikini yeah just they're just standing there famous scene from the Iron Giant yeah yeah yeah fuck me that's great
Starting point is 00:59:17 incredible stuff did Drew Sturgeon did that one yeah he did this one it was last work he really was losing it yeah yeah but no and he was like I gotta get this out you know that's very good Mason anyway it's in 35 millimeter so you know they're doing it on film and I think that's what I mean yeah that was clearly yeah put a lot of eff in of that. What, what, why does it do this? Why does AI do this? Well, somebody asked for that.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Yeah, they did, didn't they? So. But did I ask for woman in bikini? And then it turns into Emily Blunt. I thought it was the woman from, um, national treasure at first. No. Or do they say iron giant poster with Vin Diesel is iron giant, Emily Blunt is also there. And the AI goes, Emily, that's a woman's name.
Starting point is 00:59:56 We put her in a bikini. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. God, A. A.O. knows everything. It does, doesn't know. Including where we live. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Should we move to the next segment of the show? Move to the next segment of the show. What's we reading? What we're going to read? I'm doing the thing. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? We're reading stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Oh, we're reading all sorts of stuff. This is a segment of the show, but where we talk about the things we have been reading. That's right. Mason. And the things will one day be reading. Yes. Allow me to throw to you,
Starting point is 01:00:26 what are you been reading or thinking about reading? Well, we had a little downtime in between recording. A bit of detail. That's right. So I read a comic you enjoy Which is called Beneath the Trees Where Nobody Seas That's right
Starting point is 01:00:37 You read the first four issues I read all of the issues Even the newer ones I read even the newer ones I read the six issue The first season And I read there's a Two or three into the second one
Starting point is 01:00:48 There's a prequel comic Is there? It's set in the 60s Oh I haven't read that one And there is a And there's three issues Of the new series Wow okay
Starting point is 01:00:57 Knocked them all out I gotta read that prequel I didn't know there was a prequel So you've mentioned this before But it's set in a series In an anthropomorphic animal universe, a little bit like Sylvanian families, but kind of like, you know, just, and it's like a little, a small little town where everybody works in a little shop and it's, you know, and everybody's, everybody knows your name, they do. Except one of the, one of the, one of the animals, who's a bear named Sam, she's a, she's a serial. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:24 And she goes into, she goes into town. Yep. She goes in the big city to do her murders because that's, you know, people just disappear. Carrie Bradshaw used to do. Exactly. And it's pretty, pretty gruesome. I'll tell you what. And cubes up animals.
Starting point is 01:01:36 He cubes them. Puts them in little paint buckets and buries them in the forest. The origin comic will explain to you why. She's Cuban people. Oh, I got to do this, man. But not really. Yeah. But then some killing start happening in her town.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And she's like, Dexter style. She's like, who did this? Yeah. And she's like, well, if I got to figure out what's going on here because I don't want any heat on me. If they start digging into this, these obvious murders, they're going to figure out what I'm doing. What I enjoy is that she's not a sympathetic villain at all. No.
Starting point is 01:02:05 She's just bad. There's no, there's no. She's not a kind of she doesn't kill for like revenge even. No. And the people she kills is just Randers. I can get away with this. Yeah, yeah. There's no, she's not killing villains. She's not killing bad people. Well, I might be. Yeah. But that's more out of necessity more like I have to do this than anything else. Anyway, very interesting. You liked it? I liked it. I'm glad you liked it. And I also rewatched the movie Heat.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I should watch the movie Heat. The first time in a long time. And? Since the 90s, it's a good movie. Yeah, I should rewatch Heath. I didn't like it at a time. I don't think I appreciated Heath. Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah, it's just great, great movie.
Starting point is 01:02:39 You know why? Because we were watching the Predator movies, and I was watching Predator 2, and then I was like, I'm on the streaming service, and I'm like, what else is here? And Heat was there, and I'm like, damn. It's been a long time, you know, I got to, it's, oh, everybody's so great. You've got to watch the movie, Heath. De Niro, Pacino, Killmer, Others. They're all in it.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Well, the new one's going to have Adam Driver and Austin Butler and whatever, whatever. That's great That is great The way you said that Didn't seem like you think it's great Well I think it is great I agree I also think it's great
Starting point is 01:03:07 Yeah yeah yeah Well I've been reading As much as I can From the Predator Kills the Marvel Universe series Oh yes We've got a comic book club for it I know whether it's going to be This week or next week
Starting point is 01:03:16 But we've done the Predator arcade game And the Wolverine versus Predator comic book And it's going to be One's this week and one's next week I don't know in what order necessarily But the Wolverine versus Predator Is the first run in the Marvel Disney When they bought 20th Century Fox
Starting point is 01:03:29 It was announcing like 2021 and then it came out in 2024. Yep. And you read it as well. It's like just four pretty solid issues of Wolverine being harassed by the predator in different eras of his life. And sometimes the predator turns up and he's like, oh, fuck this again. Oh yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I forgot. Yeah. I have to wrestle with this guy for a bit. Yeah. He's tough. He's tough. Yeah, but I love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:51 But I hate it. So that's by Benjamin Percy and Scott. Oh, we know a comic book club. I discovered some Greg Land Tracings, some newer ones. Oh, yeah, that's true. some of the art, which are... Some of the best. If you do want to sign of a big sandwich, you can...
Starting point is 01:04:03 You can listen to that if you want to. But I would also say you don't have to, obviously, but I think it's worth dipping into it. Because there's also a Black Panther versus Predator one, and there's also a Spider-Man one, and the current series is Predator kills the Marvel Universe. Also, if you've been wondering what Pacino and De Niro did after Heat, obviously they did the 2008 or 2009 movie, Righteous Kill.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah, good movie. Yeah, great, really good. Now they're also... Right now, they are currently, because I looked it up, They're currently in an advertising campaign for the puffy jacket company, Montclair. Wow. Here they are. They got two puffy jackets.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Warmer together. That's the, that's the slogan. They are warmer together. Look, they're having a nice time. Look, they're having a nice time. Look, they're having a nice time. They're having a lovely time. They should be de-aged in real life.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Warmth was never about the outside. Wow. That's beautiful. Then they're like, ooh, I don't know about you. But then they're having a great time. Oh, they're having a great time. Wow. Yeah, it's nice.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Two men who both have babies somehow. Somewhere they have Somewhere they have babies You wouldn't see dying Kitten doing it is all I'm saying That's so true isn't it Yeah Should we move to the next segment of the show
Starting point is 01:05:04 Let's move to it It's letters It's letters I wish there was a letter segment though Like I'm sorry There is But I wish there was a theme song That someone could play
Starting point is 01:05:11 You have any more wishes I wish for a million wishes No you can't do that Too late I did All right Well all right Well I guess some aspects Because this show
Starting point is 01:05:20 Are probably going to change In the next upcoming weeks Okay I'm gonna use one of my million wishes I wish Jim Carrey would play George Jetson and a live action adaptation of the Jetsons. Wish granted.
Starting point is 01:05:31 You're a Jeannie. Yeah. Can I not tell you that? You've never mentioned it, actually. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, you got anything else? No, that's probably it.
Starting point is 01:05:38 All right. World Peas? That's too late. World Peas. I could give you World Peas. But it would be a fate worse than death by everyone. But I could do it. I could do World Peas.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Are you turning the world into a peas? One big pee? It's kind of up in the air until I sound like this. Is the ocean going to be frozen peat? It might be frozen peas, I don't know. What's the worst outcome? Because that's what it will be. What's the worst?
Starting point is 01:06:01 The worst outcome is that I would have a million more wishes for everybody. That would be bad. Yeah. We'll do letters and now I'll think about it. Okay, you think about it. Thanks, man. Also, I don't have to grant any of the wishes. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:06:14 I don't is. I mean, I think, you know how like... You're not bound to it. Yeah, yeah. You know how, like, you know how Trump does a lot of weird stuff? Yeah. And people are like, why is he allowed to do this? And it's just like, well, all the other people are.
Starting point is 01:06:26 presence were allowed to do it, he's the first one to do it. I don't know all the other Janies just grant the wishes, but they don't have to. I don't know why they're all doing it. Damn. Yeah. I guess they want to be liked, but I don't need to be liked. No, I could, that's very clear. Yeah, yeah. I got, I get enough likes through the podcast. Yeah, I was going to have to grant any wishes. Yeah, because your hygiene indicates that you don't want to be liked. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Here's a lettuce thing. The classic one was, Letters, oh, letters. We love you. Some letters.
Starting point is 01:06:55 This is one of my wishes. I was going to say, yeah You granted this one I appreciate it Yeah, yeah I'm going to do letters Whoa I was going to say
Starting point is 01:07:03 You know I It always seems like The lettuce theme It always seems like the lettuce theme Is coming out A different part of this phone It is
Starting point is 01:07:08 I'm going to use one of your wishes I'm going to say I wish It would come out of The same place Consist I'm sorry You can use one of my wishes
Starting point is 01:07:13 Yeah Yeah This sucks But I'm using the one Where you get a million wishes I'm taking that one What? I'm taking that one
Starting point is 01:07:19 I've traded it in Okay Fair enough If you don't want to reach the show It's simple You just simply go to the Planet Broadcasting Graemeats group in Facebook. In Facebook there's always a thread.
Starting point is 01:07:28 That's right. Or send a Gmail to weekly planet pod at Gmail.com with an interesting topic potentially. It doesn't just say interesting topic, eye-catching headline or whatever. Put the actual thing you want to talk about and then make it as short as you can and also use paragraphs.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Have I covered everything based it? Probably not. Yeah. I mean, that is good. I mean, that's good practice for a wish, isn't it? Sure. This is your wish. I didn't say wish. No, no. See, this is. This is the thing. I can also just make it a wish, even if you don't say a wish, because I don't care. But what's happened here is there's going to be a sort of a poetically ironic letters. Next week, all the bunch of poetically ironic letters are going to come in. And they're going to be, as you said, but they're also going to be much worse. Oh, God. Yeah. Isn't it poetically ironic, don't you think? I do think that. Do you have a letter that we wish to yet? Yes. This is from Will. Will says, is James Gunn becoming too Taika Waititi? Whoa.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Hi, James Amaso. I was a fan of the new Superman film like most of this season of Peacemaker and thought Creature Commanders was a lot of fun but do we think there's a risk that Gunn may become a little too Tycho Watiti? By this I mean almost completely disregard what audiences actually want
Starting point is 01:08:36 and just do things only they want to do a la Thor love and thunder. I like James Gunn's work but as a co-CEO of DC Studios with apparent complete creative freedom do we think there is a potential that everything could potentially become too niche with his love of comics
Starting point is 01:08:49 actually backfiring and alienating some audiences. I mean, yeah, potentially I don't think I think they're now they've talked about the movies are going to be big properties Yeah, yeah, right
Starting point is 01:09:00 Like that's the You're going to be your supermans, your batmans and whatever I don't think they're planning to do like Peacemaker's nephew Spinoff movie or whatever
Starting point is 01:09:08 As far as I know But yeah, I mean You could wish for it Will you do it though? You could wish for I wish for a peacemaker's nephew movie Granted but not in the way you think It's just like a supergirl movie
Starting point is 01:09:19 I don't know man I gotta think I'll think about it over the week Oh, you have to think about it. I can sometimes, yeah. Or you can just, something will happen. Something will happen, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:30 That's great. Tiger Watiti's, what did Tessa Thompson say last week? I don't know. Like a giant baby with a budget or something? Oh, I didn't see that at all. I'll find the, I'll find the quote. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that maybe this is in combination with James Gunney is very much in the
Starting point is 01:09:47 public eye, you know, the last few years especially, and maybe in the last six months, he's really kind of put himself out there as the face of D.C. currently. Yeah. Like Taika Watiti is sort of, I don't know, he really, there was a period where he really put himself out as the face of, you know, the project he was doing. It wasn't just like, yeah, I do the work. It was like, I'm out here and I'm...
Starting point is 01:10:08 I'm on the front line. I'm on the front line, exactly. That's right. This is a war. Tyco Watiti is a huge infant with a bank account. It's terrifying. Damn. But there wasn't supposed to be an insult. It was like, he's fun.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I also think James Gunn needs to stop making like announcements on social media and making podcasts about the show. Yeah, maybe that's the key there. Just step away from all that. You don't need to do any of that.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Because he, I mean... I know he likes doing it and people appreciate clarification, but you don't need to do that, man. Yeah, it's interesting because I think... You don't think Christopher Nolan explaining himself. He would never. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:43 With Gunn, he's very good in terms of like, people will be like, well, like, there's a rumor that this happening. and he's like, well, it's not true, whatever. But on the other side of the coin, there is a lot of, he did, for the last few months, he was doing a lot of well. The last episode of Peacemakers got some cameos you won't even believe, whatever. Or whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:00 It's like, did you mean the band that you like? Is that what you meant? It's going to be the band that's been doing the theme song for the last eight episodes is going to be in this just miming along to the theme song again. Cool, man. I like, a full-length scene or whatever. Yeah. It's like, all right.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah, maybe. I mean, I mean, also, like, when he comes out and clarifies something, I'm very rarely like, oh, I needed to know his thought process behind that. Oh, good, he understood comics and actually, he didn't just do this randomly. Like, I don't think he's doing any of this randomly, I think, so I don't need clarification on any of this, to be honest. And I think the, the, the, the, what Will has brought up here, his love of comics backfiring and alienating some audiences. I don't, I think, I think, I think niche works. Yeah. I think people thus far have been,
Starting point is 01:11:50 I think, you know, a lot of people seem to be excited to see more niche characters or, and again, like, it's worked in the past. There's a lot of, um, there's a lot of rewriting history, I think, with the MCU where people like, well, the Avengers, yeah, they were always a great superhero team, but they weren't. Like all those, literally the characters in the first Avengers movie were in it, were in it because they couldn't, Marvel couldn't license them out to save their lives. They were just the leftovers kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:12:16 And they got turned into, you know, brands and characters that people, you know, loved and made movies, you know. Brandicas. Brandic, exactly. Made a billion dollar, you know, I think. So the idea that you, I think you can take any, there's so many characters in the, you know, in DC and Marvel archives that could be turned into characters like that. You just get the right actor and the right concept and the right plot and I think that could work. So I don't think it's an issue of niche. No.
Starting point is 01:12:45 But I think he, I don't know if he's, like, when he goes out there and says, well, you know, the cameo thing. I think maybe he thinks he's being funny, but I think maybe he's misjudged that a lot of people are like, no, this isn't a good joke. I don't like this. I hate this. Where's the other green lanterns? Where's the supergirl, whatever, and this finale? I think also he made a good point when people are like, well, if there's Robert Pattinson's a Batman and you're interested, you know, and if you're introducing a Batman, isn't that confusing.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Yeah. And he's like, people aren't confused by that. And I think that's true. It's like, I think pedantic nerds like us might get, no, I don't even care what am I saying. But people get upset that there's two Batman. Well, I think those people. But normal people, I just like, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Oh, this is a different guy or I whatever. It feels like a bad faith thing to me to be like, well, I don't even understand this. Yes, you do. Yeah. Or I get it, but they won't get it. They'll get it. Yeah, like this idea of like, well, it's not going to work and it's going to be so confusing. To come from the, you get, you've, you've,
Starting point is 01:13:44 read comic books for years where there's multiple worlds and what have you, it's fine. It doesn't... Exactly. I had another thought, but I've forgotten what it was. You don't need any more thoughts, Mason. I don't need any more thoughts. I just need wishes. Brandon Yap says, in the age of overinflated movie budgets, what's an obscure superhero
Starting point is 01:14:00 or villain? You like to actually see get a $200 million movie. The one that came to mind and they are doing an animated series is Mr. Miracle. Oh, yeah. Based on the Tom, is Tom King. Tom King, yeah. Yeah. Because that's like a, it is like a smallish kind of family drama.
Starting point is 01:14:14 but also it's got like dark side and a bunch of insane multidimensional not multi-dimensional like intergalactic shit and I think that's that's a great call I think I would I'm I don't think they necessarily have to focus on Mr. Miracle but I would love to see a new gods yeah because we got they might be going towards new gods in peacemaker from peacemaker as well I mean that would that would explain the salvation and yeah yeah um is it salvation linked to the place is called salvation but I don't know I don't know what that is I don't know what salvation is. Apparently there's a mini-series.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Okay. Yeah, I think it is new gods adjacent, but I haven't read it all, no, so I'm just saying at the top of it. Yeah, New Gods would be for me, because again, they did, you know, Marvel did Eternals, and when I heard about that, I'm like, oh, I love Jack Kirby's, I love his look, and I love the colorful, you know, the huge scale of the whole thing. Yeah. We didn't really get that, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Yeah, I don't think so either. Some people say Eternals is a Future Classic. I don't think. You kind of think that I wish you think that I don't think that That wish has backfired As wishes often do
Starting point is 01:15:19 And now I think that I mean you already did I did But I guess Maybe that's a time thing I think it's probably Time thing probably happened Yeah
Starting point is 01:15:28 Yeah also I also see the idea that like So let's say it's not brainic Let's say it's new gods Well you know They just did dark side And decide or whatever But let's be real No one fucking knows what that
Starting point is 01:15:40 Nobody's paying attention Nobody, the general publics don't care That there was an extended Justice League movie That had Granny goodness in it or whatever No, that's true, yeah Yeah What else, Mason? Here's an email
Starting point is 01:15:53 Johnny Bam bam bam This is from Jonathan Favorite movie tie-in product Easy, got it done Hi James and Maiso Who he says hi James and Harry James Recently started reading the novelisation of Freddy versus Jason
Starting point is 01:16:08 Yes I find it fascinating that someone had to write that someone had to write a novel about that particular movie of all things. I also have a soft spot for novelizations. I used to buy them when I was young from Opschops in random little towns and long family road trips. They were usually too complex for me to read at that age, but I'd seen the movie so I could kind of follow along.
Starting point is 01:16:26 While the age of novelizations have been dead for a while, it's absolutely never coming back in any meaningful capacity as novelizations now would just be AI slop. Yeah, true. Like the Argyle one. Remember they made the Argyll? That horrible book. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Was that a real book or not? It wasn't real, but you could physically buy it. Yeah, but it was, sorry, I mean, does this someone actually write it? I think it was AI. I genuinely think it was. God, that's awful. But, yeah, but it wasn't, it was the in-movie novel that the character in the movie had written. So it wasn't a novelization.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Oh, okay, so it doesn't have to be good. Do you guys have any favorite movie tie-in products? Well, I know you like Hitler's Bunker from the movie Downfall. Yeah. That's probably one of them. You know what's a good tie-in? even though it's probably it's not a great game enter the Matrix. Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:17:13 absolutely. Just the idea of filming something alongside and building a whole world and story. The Matrix MMO also? Yeah there you go. Let's say video games. I know you like I know you like Phantom Menace themed soda cans. I do actually. Did you for real drink that one? I can't remember. Mason I couldn't possibly say. It's a mystery that only
Starting point is 01:17:31 time will tell. What do I like tie and wise? You know what? For you? Let me answer for you. All right. Okay. Clothes and such. clothes, ties, accessories, James Bond, Kingsman. I do, but I've never bought anything. Whoa. I think it's interesting. That's not true. You're wearing Ryan Gosling's jacket.
Starting point is 01:17:48 I did have one of those at one point. From the movie, the free guy, a fall guy, whatever. I had that one. Did you really? Yeah, I had it in the off white. It was just a black version as well, like all black. That's cool, man. I was joking.
Starting point is 01:18:02 I may have told you this, because that's the only way you would know this. Kingsman had like a whole. whole line of clothing you could buy and it wasn't like it was really good you can still get it like go to James
Starting point is 01:18:16 use your internet browser go to Mr. Porter com M-R-P-P-O-R-T-E-R dot com and search for Kingsman and you will see Kingsman for men Yes
Starting point is 01:18:27 oh yeah this is a bunch of hoodies what hoodies and sweats Oh keep going down Yeah because that was their training uniform Yeah I know amazing Because you scroll down You'll see like like 210
Starting point is 01:18:38 10 general British pounds for a Kingsman hoodie. Yeah. You'll see like... Shit, this stuff is so expensive. And like umbrellas from like England's greatest umbrella maker. It's like $1,100 jackets, $1,300. There's a crop top here that's $2 million. It's right, a $2 million crop top.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I mean, this is some beautiful work, Mason. Yeah, yeah. Well, it is. I mean, like, genuinely they were like... But it's sort of fascinating to me that they were like... That Matthew Vaughn, who directed the first one, clearly went to like Saville Row and was like, can you do a run of suits?
Starting point is 01:19:09 Jimmy Saville Row? Yeah, Jimmy said, yeah, that's right. Oh, no. Yeah. Now, what do I like that's spin off? I know, I know, I'm something you might like. That is a, um, it's a little action figure standee or it's like a, and it's, it's from Star Trek too.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Yep. And it's Kirk and Spock on opposite sides of the, the reactor, the Enterprise reactor, as Spock dies of radiation. Yes, I do love that. What do I love? I thought there was a back to the, The Future's themed Cassio watch release. Did you see that?
Starting point is 01:19:38 I'm not a digital watch guy. I'm trying to, because I had an answer for this when I, when I thought, give me, give me two seconds. Tron? No. Rees' pieces. No. The ET game cartridge.
Starting point is 01:19:51 No. A coupon Ninja Turtle's book from the little picture pizza. No. Jad Jabin's kiss his tongue. No, no, but that's sexy. The Little Mermaid Fish fingers. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Absolutely. No. I'll think of at the end let's do another thing and then I'll immediately remember this is funny so that thing that I pointed out it's a whole mark
Starting point is 01:20:13 it's a whole mart keepsake of Kirk wow my goodness I think Kirk should have died just say just generally yeah I mean he did a fucking bridge fell on him
Starting point is 01:20:25 or whatever he bridged it for him well he got sucked into space but then a bridge fell on him oh yeah he did no he actually got sucked into a dimension or whatever didn't you pocket dimension man
Starting point is 01:20:34 here's one for him mate. It's, um, it's, it's beautiful. It's a, it's a reclining C3PO with a tape dispenser between his legs. It looks like he's on the toilet. I agree. You're saying, oh my, I'm on the toilet. Anyway, uh, Jonathan, sorry, I couldn't think of a single thing, but I had an answer and I've lost it. Well, this is an opportunity for you to rebuild your faith in humanity. Okay. By trusting yourself. By me doing a different email. Okay. terrific. This is from Jimmy Miller who says, yeah, my wife and I are behind on a lot of Disney Plus stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and I've recently started Moon Night
Starting point is 01:21:07 and we really dig it. What was your favorite and least favorite Disney plus Marvel properties? If I was fun and of course Wonder Vision was great. Fugged them into Soldier like Iron Man 3 would have been better if it was just a buddy cop story with the two main protagonists. I'm happy, I will definitively say worst is secret was.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Oh, absolutely, yeah. Also because I thought it could be good and it wasn't. It was really bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because what they should have done, we talk about this endlessly, but what they should have done is they should have taken the name,
Starting point is 01:21:33 Secret Invasion, and they should have been. Do I say secret invasion? I don't know what you said. I meant to say secret invasion if I said secret wars. But I think they should have just taken the, they should have done the thing which they normally do, which is just take the name and build a completely different story behind that. You just be like, no, it's an espionage thing, but they went, let's do a thing we can't possibly do given the budget.
Starting point is 01:21:52 And then the people we have available, and it was bad. But Weirwolf by note is my favorite. And I think that's probably just because it was just a one, it was one thing for an hour, and I enjoyed it. and there was little enough space to ruin it. Sure. Some of the stuff that I really don't like is, I can't even remember in particular,
Starting point is 01:22:10 but some of the what-if episodes are just, yeah. My son even watched the one that was like, I haven't actually seen this one where it's what if the Avengers were Mex or whatever. Oh, yeah. And, I mean, if it's going to hit anybody, it's going to be a kid that age, but he was like, didn't like it. And it's like, he fucked up if, like, a boy who loves the Avengers
Starting point is 01:22:27 and Mex was just like, whatever. Yeah, like that's, well, I mean, maybe it's, also because he's maybe just hit the age of like now he's critical of things like not everything is the best thing no he's still oh maybe well that's a shame then if that's yeah uh best though wonder vision yeah i really like dead ever born again actually i like that a lot loki is great uh i really thought agatha was good enjoyed that yeah there's definitely other stuff that i and certain episodes that i've enjoyed but i liked i liked we'rewolf by night because it was just this tiniest corner of the marble universe yeah let's just explore this for a minute what do we have there we've got to
Starting point is 01:23:02 We've got a werewolf that's got that weird 1930s warwolf vibe to him and just throw in man thing as well By night And Elsa Bloodstone is there By night Some other guys By night
Starting point is 01:23:14 And there's that guy from Star Trek 3 isn't it By 9? Yeah He's here in Star Trek 3 He's the punk guy that Spock Nerve pinches He's the He's one of the hunters
Starting point is 01:23:24 Yeah He's among it He's among it He's among it Cool Do you think that game would be as possible As popular as if it was just called a munget.
Starting point is 01:23:33 A munget. Get a munget. Yeah, I think it would be. Nice. His name are from Bradley. Bradley. Great storied video games. Hey, gents, ghost of Yotei, the secret to ghost of Sushima, just came out.
Starting point is 01:23:47 It's as amazing as the first. I was wondering how familiar you are with these and other story-heavy games. You like... I really like the first one. I will buy the second one, but I don't have time at the moment, which also suits me because it will go down in price and then I will buy it. But I loved that first one. And I hate really over open world games where you walk around talk to people and they send you on a whatever.
Starting point is 01:24:06 But that one, it's so beautiful and I really like the combat in it. Again, the world's great. You ever talk to a bird? I'll talk to a bird. I mean in real life? No. Okay. Yeah, so I do love that.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Yes. How familiar you are with you with these and other story heavy games? I love a story heavy game. That's what I want. I mean, again, it's someone who plays two. You're an AI generated story. Yeah, yeah, two games a year, maybe. If I'm lucky, I want a game that is eight hours long and it's got a good story.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I don't care. I don't need 100 hours, honestly. Nope, don't do that. Don't do that to us. We don't want that. Is that the show? That's the whole show. What's the whole show?
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Starting point is 01:28:01 Probably a movie or a TV show or something. Or a book. Yeah. Well, I'll remember that thing that I love is a tying thing. Yeah. Shoes? I don't think it's shoes.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Two-tone shoes? Two-tone Danny Glover shoes? No. Two-tone Danny DeVito shoes. Oh, not bad. God, he's exploring all possibilities right now by pointing around his body. I'm thinking of every form of media spin-off. Is it cloth?
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