The Weekly Planet - 6 Thor: The Dark World (Any Good?)

Episode Date: November 5, 2013

We’re talking the highly anticipated Thor: The Dark World and how it stacks up against other CBM’s of 2013. Plus we look at X-Men: Days Of Future Past, and the possible appearance of the real Mandarin. Spoilers begin at the 38 minute mark. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Mason, we have a theme song this week that was sent to us. Would you like to hear it? Hang on, aren't we... No, start again. Aren't you playing it and then you'd be like,

that's the theme song? I thought... You're an idiot. You don't understand how theme songs work. I'll play the theme song? Yes. Okay. This is where I put the theme song in.

No, I refuse to take part in this. Yeah, fine. Do you want to start again? Like, for real? No, that's fine. No, this is good. Okay. So that theme song was courtesy of Kyle Drury.

What's that? Drury? Like? Drury. Like Ian Drury. He's probably... Who's Ian Drury? It would be Ian Drury and the Blockheads. Is he like... Hit me with your rhythm stick.

Oh. I can't believe I have to explain this. I can't believe you know all this about so many topics. I can't believe you think that I wouldn't know that. Yeah. Would know that. Bad start. Often bad start.

Terrible. Worst start ever. No, the best. Thanks Ian or Kyle though. I really enjoyed that. That was fun. Yeah, it's good. It pretty bad start. Terrible. Worst start ever. No, the best. Thanks Ian or Kyle though. I really enjoyed that. That was fun. Yeah, it's good. It pretty much sums up the podcast, I would say.

Just it's broken. Yeah, just like... Just broken glass at the end. Yeah. We're like a hip hop crew. Like a hip hop dance crew. It always ends on broken glass. Have you noticed that?

It's weird. I like that. Yeah. But if anyone else has a theme song that they'd like to send to us... We've got a few more to run, don't we? We do. If anyone else wants to though... I'll pile. Yeah. But if anyone else has a theme song that they'd like to send to us... We've got a few more to run, don't we? We do. If anyone else wants to, though... I'll pile them up.

Weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's the one. That's the place to do it. So send us one. We'll probably play it. Or I'll lose it like I did a number of them. You'll almost certainly lose it, yeah. But that's part of your charm.

You shouldn't be able to lose things on a computer. Is that... Am I an idiot? Well, not for that reason. Welcome, everyone, to episode six of the Weekly Planet. No segue, straight into it. Yeah, that's good. The official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com.

My name is James. You may know me as Mr. Sunday, and joining me this week is my co-host, Nick Mason. Hey, friends. Hey, listeners. Yeah. Hey, James. Hey. It's great. Hey, listeners. Yeah. Hey, James. Hey. It's great.

We're back for another week. This week, we're, of course, talking the highly anticipated Thor the Dark World. It's out in a number of regions in the world, not the US. Ooh. But it will be out this Thursday for them, or Friday. I'm not sure what things are coming up. Are we going to spoil this? Well, that's the thing.

The way I thought we'd do it, we'll do a little news thing up front which is the new thing we do now I do like news we'll do a say again I do like news yeah you do

and then we go I'm being genuine for a moment oh really I like news I just went I rolled my eyes I'm like this jerk

son of a bitch Peter jerk again but yeah I thought we'll do a general discussion go all through it nothing spoilery and then we'll say this is the point and then we'll say this is the point

and then we'll just spoil the shit out of it okay good yeah sounds good yeah really good yeah yeah so we'll talk like post credit scenes

and mid credit scenes and if there is any which there is oh you maybe god we're terrible at this continue

so there are there is some big news this week though uh huh the biggest one I think is there's a sequel to Olympus Has Fallen, and it's called London Has Fallen.

What do you think? That's not the news, surely. That's your fake news. That's real news, though. Is it? Yes! Was the first one good? The first one had Jerry Butler.

You didn't see it, did you? I didn't. I think I saw half of it. I may have of it. I may have downloaded it. How did this tie into anything? What are you doing? What are you doing to us? Well, look, on the Comic Book Movie website...

I'm snapped. If you ever visited the Comic Book Movie website, which I'm pretty sure you haven't... I don't know what a website is. I've just been playing along. They cover all sorts of things. They cover, like, Hunger Games, anything at all. That's a good film.

Yeah, I mean, some... Yeah, it's true. Some listeners... Some readers don't like that they'll be like what's this got to do with anything whenever anything Smurfs related gets put up

people flip out Smurfs obviously start as a comment I'm on your side Smurf flip outers what the heck some of them aren't even blue anymore which ones are oh yeah

I don't know I haven't watched it yeah okay so what where's the dividing line if I may ask why does Olympus has fallen get covered?

You know what it is? It's whatever I say it is. Oh, boy. No. I don't know. It's whatever. He's got a knife, listeners. That was just a fake thing that I thought I'd throw in there.

Well, not fake. Real news story. But I thought it was a little funny thing before we started. But this has gone way longer than I thought it would. So I'm just going to drop it. No, no. Continue. Continue. but this has gone way longer than I thought it would. So I'm just going to drop it. No, don't continue. Also, was the first movie set in the mythical realm of Olympus?

Yes. It's the second one. It's called London Has Fallen. That's a really good point. You've fallen a bit. Have you seen it? No. Have you seen White House Down?

No, but it looks really good. Does it? Yeah, it's a buddy cop film with Channing Tatum and Jamie Foxx. It's the best. Some people say it's the best modern die hard film. Yeah, okay. Better than four, better than five. I haven't seen five. I watched it for ten minutes and went, wow, this is...

Because you were so amazed. I was so amazed I had to turn it off and put my foot through my TV. I was that amazed. It's pretty amazing. Anyway, real news, legit news. Okay, I'm ready. Legits with a Z at the front. Yep. I don't know how that works. You've seen the new X-Men Days of Future Past trailer, I'm sure.

Yes. Do you think it's amazing as I think it looks is with a Z? Yeah. You liked it? Obviously. Yeah. I'm excited for it, yeah. Me too.

I mean, a lot of people still say, give it back to Marvel or whatever, but other than X-Men 3, which I don't think is that bad, it's not great. Yep. And Wolverine Origins, which is the worst. Yep. The X-Men movies are pretty strong. First Class in particular, I think, is my favourite. And this is an extension of that.

Do you think... Yes. Oh, sorry. Do you think generally... That's your problem, James. You don't think. Do you think they're finally going to resolve the timeline issues? Like where these movies are set?

Well, that's... Brian's thing is set... When are the first three X-Men movies set? Are they set now? Are they set in the future slightly? Are they set in the night? Where are they set? Well, they came out in 99.

And in it, at the start, it says, in the very near future or the not-so-distant future. at the start it says in the very near future or the not so distant future. Okay. So I'd say they're probably set mid-2000s to late 2010-ish. Sure.

Yeah. But I think this new one... Also, are they going to cover that there are multiple versions of some characters seemingly? If you count Wolverine Origins... You know what? I don't think they would have the time to do it.

And I think it would just confuse everybody. Somebody will draw a diagram though. They sure will. That'll be fine. And then somebody else will pick holes in that diagram. Okay, good. Alright. That's all I'm asking for. Yeah, look, I think they're gonna Spirited debate. They're gonna retcon a bunch of stuff but I think that series is a bit of a mess. So I

don't think there's a lot you can do. Like stuff like Professor Xavier gets crippled in First Class, but then he's walking around in X-Men 3 in a flashback where he's played by Patrick Stewart. Oh, yeah. Mmm. Put that in your diagram and smoke it.

It's probably... But, I mean, they'll ignore that, but they could retcon it. I mean, Xavier has regained his legs again. Xavier's one of those status quo characters that, like, he only ever gets injured in a way that reverts him back to the status quo. Like, his legs got crushed by the devil originally, if you recall, way back in the day. Yeah. And then I think he got a new body cloned, like the Shi'ar, the aliens.

Okay. They gave him... And then his legs got crushed again. By the devil? Probably by the devil. Yeah, but it's never... Like, his arms didn't get crushed. He didn't get a head injury. Legs crushed again. By the devil? Probably by the devil. Yeah, but it's never... Like, his arms didn't get crushed. He didn't get a head injury.

Legs crushed again. Like, flat? I think so, yeah. Because he shouldn't have legs then. Dead. The wooden legs. Okay. But also, if his legs got crushed, prosthetic legs, wouldn't it be his spine?

I don't know. I guess back in the 60s, your legs got crushed that was it for you that was it yeah you're all over and so that was yeah you blow out a knee

yeah and you're done they put you behind a screen and they shoot you like you're a horse two things to note about that trailer one

no sentinels you don't see any sentinels you see Peter Dinklage as Bolivar Trask creator of the sentinels but go on sorry but you don't actually

see any Sentinels is that because the CGI isn't ready or is it because they look ridiculous in trailers I think I think they're

holding on to it I think there'll be another trailer where they'll bring them out don't give it all away at once there is a scene

and this may not be related to it there's a clip in it where Professor Xavier is sitting and then like a big light goes on him and he's like

so maybe the devil is about to crush him again almost certainly or maybe it's a Sentinel or maybe it's just a bright light it's probably yeah he's like, so maybe the devil's about to crush him again. Almost certainly. Or maybe it's a sentinel. Or maybe it's just a bright light. It's probably, yeah.

He's probably playing spotlight. Yeah. Second point. Yeah. It is a scene where Magneto points a gun at somebody in a very dramatic fashion. Doesn't really need it. He's got magnetic powers. Yeah, I know.

That is a bit strange. He could probably throw the bullet faster. Yeah, that crossed my mind. You know what? I think they're smart enough to know... that they know what they're doing with that. Because surely they'd know people would go, that's a pretty stupid move. Sure.

So maybe it's just like, maybe he's pretending not to be a mutant at that point. Oh, maybe that's a good point, yeah. Or maybe he just likes the feel of cold steel in his hands. Yeah, yeah. That's right, yeah. But here's something interesting that I know about this movie. 30% future with the old cast.

You know, your Halle Berry's and your Hubert Jackman's. Hubert Jackman, sure. And whatnot. 70% in the past with your Jennifer Lawrence's and your Hubert Jackman's. And your Hubert Jackman's going to be back. Yeah. Okay, sure. So it's mostly first class.

I'm okay with that. Me too. The present slash future day has had its time. Did you enjoy seeing Bishop? Yes. I mean, he's briefly in it. Very briefly, sure. We don't see anything that he can do.

I don't know how the, you know, it'll be fine. Cool. Yeah. Isn't Bishop a time traveller? Yes. Are they going to have cable in it? Probably not, though. No, I doubt it. Too many, too many odds of time. Way too much. You know what time traveller? Yes. Are they going to have cable in it? Probably not, though. No, I doubt it.

Too many ultimate time travellers. You know what? Who knows? Yep. They'll probably like... But the thing is, while the X-Men movies have a history of putting people in in small cameos

and then completely recasting them. That's true. Who's the guy who played the villain in 2? What's his name? Not the character. The character's name. Oh, um... Stryker.

Stryker. Stryker's in... I thinkker's in I think he's in X-Men 1 in a in a clip on the news possibly yeah so and also Stryker is um

the dad from 30 Days of Night yeah that's true yeah absolutely he is yeah I'm not going to get into why we call him that because that's a whole thing

but um because he looks like a dad he looks like somebody's dad exactly he's the least threatening he's the least threatening vampire and he's not he's not He's the least threatening vampire. He's not Bela Lugosi-esque horrific terrifying.

He's not super suave kind of modern day vampire. He's not Twilight vampire. He just looks like he's some guy's dad. You know, he's your dad. Yeah. Regular guy. I like him though. He's in children. He's right out.

Yeah. We should have talked about that 30 Days of Night now underrated comic book movies. Oh yeah, that was a good one. That's such a good movie Night Now underrated comic book movies. Oh, yeah. That's such a good movie. It's a really good one. It's terrifying. I think that's a... You know what? You see a thresher.

You see some spinning gears. Oh, yeah. You know that if you see Act 1, you see some spinning gears. Act 3, somebody's going in those spinning gears, and they did not disappoint. No. And you see it. Oh, you probably do. And then there's just a red mist.

Yeah. What a great movie. I think that's the best vampire movie of a lot of... I think it's top one vampire movies. Probably my favourite vampire movie. What else? Name another good vampire movie. John Carpenter's Vampires.

That's pretty good. With James Woods in it. Yeah. Dust Till Dawn, which I don't think ages very well. No, probably not. Yeah, anyway. I don't think there's anything else

we really need to say about that. You don't want to see the X-men universe merge with the marvel universe ah because they both have quicksilver now played by different characters that's what i'm talking about i think that i think they're both just like fuck you we're both gonna do whatever we want i don't think they'll merge did we have that conversation about one should be renamed the wizard no there's a there's an alternate there's a parallel universe super speedster yeah in squadron supreme which is sort of the marvel's parrot so all of these things you're saying i've no it doesn't matter the point is marvel have like a satirical version of of the justice league called

squadron supreme they're from an alternate reality right and they have a super speedster in the in the vein of the flash and he wears a yellow costume and he's calledzer. Right. And so X-Men should be set in that universe. Yeah. No, I just think, I just want to see the Whizzer on screen. I think that's pretty weird. Isn't that guy just the Flash's villain? Because isn't the Flash's villain where... That's Zoom.

That's Zoom. The reverse Flash. The reverse Flash, yeah. Okay. They both have yellow suits. Yeah. Wow. I know.

Second thing news. Okay, They both have yellow suits. Yeah. Wow. I know. Second thing news. Okay, good. Go ahead. Ben Kingsley has been, as apparently, well, this is true, he's involved in a secret Marvel project, the project of which is unconfirmed, but I have a rumor. Yes, I'm ready. Courtesy of, I believe, Latina Review, the website. Sure.

I mean, comicbookmovie.com. Ah, okay. My website. It's not mine. It's your website, if anything. It's the people's website. I think so, yeah. The rumor is that this is the story, okay?

It's going to be a Marvel one-shot thing. It's like your Agent of Carter. Agents of Carter. Agent Carter one-shot and whatnot. Where the real Mandarin... Yep. Real Mandarin confronts Trevor Slattery over the mockery

that he's made mockery that he and Guy Pease's character Aldous Killian made of the Mandarin. Interesting. I think if this is true that's a panic move to go

No! We were joking guys! Oh God. So much backpedaling. Yeah, yeah. If that's true what do you think of that? What was your source

on that again? TomahawkMovie.com Latina. Yes. That true. What do you think of that? What was your source on that again? Latina. Yes. That's a reputable source. Yeah. As I understand it. But, see, that sounds too neat. Yeah.

That really does sound like somebody on a forum somewhere has said, you know what would be great is if this would happen. Yeah. And it's gone through a couple of things, a couple of revisions, and it's's become a i would really like that to be the case but i don't think it is i would rather it be ben kingsley and we've talked about this before was the actual mandarin and he just tricked everybody yeah and he masterminded the whole thing but you know what um if that if this is the story hypothetically which you think it won't be because you're a doubter and a hater i have both of those things. I'm a dater.

I'm dater for Star Trek The Next Generation. Oh my goodness. Wouldn't the real Mandarin be happy that nobody thinks he's real? Yes, although... Massive ego. Oh, okay. Yeah. There you go.

Yeah. So, confirmed? Yeah, no. Wait. Yes! So, confirmed? Yeah, no. Wait. Yes. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it

before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Alright, there's another thing that's in relation

to where The Avengers 3 is headed. I'm going to, well, talk about that in the spoilers thing. Wait, Avengers 3?

Yeah. Huh. But I'll talk about that in relation to the spoilers because it ties into Thor The Dark World. Sure. Which is what we can talk about now. Yeah. Huh. But I'll talk about that in relation to the spoilers, because it ties into Thor The Dark World. Sure. Which is what we can talk about now.

Ooh. As I said, we will mark very clearly when spoilers are, and so turn off at that point, or keep listening, and then get really angry, because we spoil things. I should say, right at the top, I haven't seen it. No, I have seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it. The look in his eyes, listeners.

Like, oh, look, the moment where he has to scramble for another topic. it no i have said i've said it i've said it the look in his eyes listeners like oh look the moment where he has to scramble for another topic it was betrayed i felt betrayed because you told me you saw it because we didn't see it together yep oh my

goodness i saw it quickly agents of shield update okay i'll stop watching it yeah so you're not going to watch it i don't care whether it's on or not wow yeah so our wrap

up of agents of shield is me explaining agents of shield to you are you still on board with it well i have to watch it for this i have to i do it's on or not. Wow. So our wrap-up of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is me explaining Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to you. Are you still on board with it? Well, I have to watch it for this. You have to. I do. It's your podcast.

You can do whatever you want. Well, I need to fill an hour. Are the people demanding that you watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? You know what? No. I think it'll be more annoyance than anything. Like the wrap-up, people will be like, we're avoiding this deliberately. Why is he bringing it back into our lives?

I'll tell you something Agents of S.H.I.E.L. he bringing it back into our lives? I'll tell you something Asian if you're related. What's that? I think in a few episodes down the line, they're going to tie it into For the Dark World and there's going to be repercussions. Great. All right, I'm back on board, listeners. I'm back on one...

Oh. Oh. God, this podcast should be called Maceo Goes Back on His Word constantly. Maceo folds like a house of cards. Oh, jeez. Not as catchy a name. It isn't, though. But more accurate. Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Okay, so

first off, what did you think of Thor The Dark World? I really enjoyed it, but I'm not sure why. Okay. It's an absolutely straight down the line superhero film. Yeah. The whole universe is at stake, as you might imagine in every Marvel movie, the universe

as we know it is at stake. Sure. Didn't really feel a lot of pressure. Didn't feel a lot of tension. It did feel light. It was very light. Yeah. It was an adventurous roller coaster. Yeah. That's what it was. I'm also on board with you. Yeah. Yeah. It was a... It was an adventurous rollercoaster.

Yeah. That's what it was. I'm also on board with you. I enjoyed it. But I think I've worked out why I enjoyed it, because I put some effort into this before I came in. Oh, here we go. If your answer is Chris Hemsworth's abs...

Oh, my goodness. I know, right? What a handsome gentleman. Do you reckon he'd come on the show? No. Do you reckon if I... If I tricked he'd come on the show? no do you reckon if I if I tricked him into coming on the show he'd come on the show

oh definitely he'd come on I mean he'd come on briefly yeah before he got really upset yeah definitely that I tricked him yeah totally do you reckon if I kidnapped his newborn child

oh boy he'd beat me up yes we're on a list now too you know that right yeah but for saying that. Yeah.

Oh, goodness. So yeah, look, I liked it and for a number of reasons. I did a review on Mr. Sunday to Sunday, my YouTube channel. Yes. Which you'll never check out. I will. I will. I should have beforehand.

I thought about it, but then I didn't. No, because then we come in and we don't know what each other's going to say. It becomes like a bit of banter, a bit of back and forth. Yes. Yeah. One of the things I really liked about it was they really built the world well. Yes. In the sense that, like physically, to start with.

I mean, they did expand on the world, which I'll talk about in a minute. But they built a lot of real sets. Uh-huh, that's good. And the sets are really impressive. It's not like, I don't know, for lack of a better example Star Wars Episode 2 where they're in like a massive Jedi temple no that's the best example

it really is the best example yeah and it just looks like it doesn't oh god it looks like some people walking down a green screen yeah exactly

and thinking to themselves well I can't step too far to the left or right because then I'll be out of green screen range like I can't there's presumably more temple over to the left but I can't go there because I'll be out of green screen range. Like I can't, there's presumably more tempo over to the left

but I can't go there because I'll be off the green screen. That's right, exactly. Or I'll walk through floating Yoda, floating CGI Yoda, which will be put in at some point. But also like they used real locations. They used real British people?

They did use real British people. That's how you do it. That's how you go kind of Thor. But like they went to like Iceland and whatnot. Because the director, Alan it. That's how you go, kind of, Thor. But, like, they went to, like, Iceland and whatnot. Because the director, Alan Taylor, who also directed a number of Games of Thrones episodes with a Z, he obviously did a lot of that in Game of Thrones. So I think he brought a lot of that to this. And I think as a result of that, Asgard and the worlds of the Nine Realms look a lot better.

Not that they didn't look good in the first one. I thought they did look really good, but I think that really helped flesh out the world. Yeah. You were saying, I think you tweeted at me as you were watching it. I didn't tweet during the movie. That's rude.

That is rude. Yes, that is a good point. But I may have. Yeah, you may have, boy. Not as good as Masters of the Universe, which I enjoyed, but I did get a teeny tiny bit of a Masters of the Universe which I enjoyed but I did get

a teeny tiny bit of a Masters of the Universe vibe from it if we're talking about the world they have fleshed it out and it is more

it is more of a sci-fi world now than I thought the first one was like the first one you know it is made mention

that they are aliens who have technology that is indistinguishable from magic but you know, it is made mention that they are aliens who have technology that is indistinguishable from magic. But, you know, a lot of it is, you know, it's Thor and his hammer. There's a lot of that. But in this one, there were

Asgard is clearly sort of a high sci-fi realm. Like there's, you know, there's a lot of laser turrets. That's probably a heap of laser turrets. I said this in my review as think that's probably... There was a lot of laser turrets. Heaps of laser turrets. I said this in my review as well, so I'm probably repeating myself, but I thought it looked very much kind of Lord of the Rings mixed with Phantom Menace, but in a good way.

Uh-huh. Sure. Most people would take that in a bad way. Well, yeah. But in a good way, sure. But there's a lot of good art, like art style in the Phantom Menace, even though that's not a good movie. Uh-huh, yeah.

But a lot of the stuff that's been designed, especially on that world of Naboo, I believe it's called, 2-0s, looks really good. But I think that movie benefited from that kind of look. Yeah, yeah. But also, on that technology thing you were talking about, there's a bit where Jane Foster, she's in that machine, and she's like, it's a whatever, whatever. And they're like, no, it's a soul, whatever. And she's like, no, it's exactly the science thing that I said. Sure, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's definitely that machine. And she's like, it's a whatever, whatever. And they're like, no, it's a soul, whatever. And she's like, no, it's exactly the science thing that I said.

Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's definitely, yeah. So they exist in a sort of a universe where they have this incredible technology at their disposal. But they don't build it, I guess. I don't know where it comes from. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I don't know.

Maybe Odin builds it. Well, isn't it? Maybe he's got gnomes that build things. That's a big thing in the Harry Potter books. That all the gnomes make all the food and do all the chores. Now, I'm not a big Harry Potter viewer or reader. We've seen them all, though, haven't we? No, I haven't seen the last two. Really?

The last one or two, it doesn't matter. Anyway, the point is... So, the deal with those gnomes is they don't wear any clothes. They're not called gnomes, but I'm going to... Okay, fine, I'm going to say gnomes is they don't wear any clothes they're not called gnomes but I'm gonna okay fine I'm gonna say gnomes and they don't wear any clothes and they're subject to sort of

indentured servitude to the humans or the wizards yep forever yep but then if you give them a piece of clothing

they're free yes but nobody does that well Harry Potter does so of the thousands of wizards presumably Harry Potter's the one person that does that

wait a minute. Everybody else is keen on indentured servitude. Even though they've got magic powers. You know Lucius Malfoy? Yes. Though his name may be Lucius Fox. Uh-huh, sure. He, Harry Potter, tricks him into giving one clothes.

So there's two. I hate those awful, they're awful people. These, ugh. The world of Harry Potter is all slavery. Yeah, awful. Is that never brought up? It is. They wear awful people. The world of Harry Potter is all slavery. Is that never brought up? We're bad people.

No, no, it is. Like Hermione protests and stuff. Because you know, this is way off topic. No, it's on topic. You know when Dumbledore waves his hands and the banquet appears? Sure. What he's actually doing, and this is in the books. He's teleporting in. He's teleporting the food in.

They're all downstairs slaving away constantly. Literally slaving. Literally, quite literally. And they sting the food in. They're all downstairs slaving away constantly. Literally slaving. Literally, quite literally. And they stoke the fires and they clean the floors. And if their three-headed dog gets out, they have to put it back, I'm assuming. Or they get slaughtered by the dog. Slaughtered by the dog. Yeah.

Why would you put so many dangerous things in that school? You put less dangerous things in a school. I've been to a school. There's very little very dangerous things. It is school magic. Talk about school. There's very little very dangerous things. Interschool magic. Talk about that. That's my favourite. My favourite part of the Harry Potter films

is the school magic competition. It's in like the third, second or third? No, it's the fourth one. The fourth one. That's also my favourite because... Because it's like a school... Goblet of fire. A little bit of magic, sure.

Yeah. Where a small child has to fight a dragon. Well, that's the thing though because his name goes in... Goblet of fire. A little piece of magic, sure. Yeah. Where a small child has to fight a dragon. Well, that's the thing, though, because his name goes in the Goblet of Fire. He's too young to be in it. And they're like, this is clearly a trick. Somebody's trying to kill Harry Potter.

They're like, however, let's see how this plays out. Let's see how it goes. But you know what, though? He's way underprepared, and then they're like, guess what, Harry Potter?

You're going to fight this enormous dragon. Yeah, exactly. And he's way out of his depth. You had a metaphor for that. Can you remember what it was? It was... No, I don't. Do you?

No, you said that it would be the equivalent of if you were in junior high school and you were going to an inter-school sports relay and they got you and they put you in a helicopter and they dropped you into a prison riot. And they got you and they put you in a helicopter and they dropped you into a prison riot. And they gave you a gun with like six bullets in it. But they were like, you're probably going to die. You might live, but you'll probably die. Like that's the mundane equivalent of that.

To assume anyone would survive that at all is insanity. I said that. You did. That's hilarious. Oh, well. Oh, I'm so funny funny I should have claimed that I know I would have never

would you oh now it's on now it's on wax forever getting back to Harry Potter though I mean for the dark world okay sure where are we at

technology yep technology anything else you want to say about technology because I want to talk about characters yeah go ahead characters characters are good too

I thought they fleshed out the characters really well. Great outfits too. Great outfits. I'm a big fan of costume in film, just generally. Man, so good. Yeah.

They really just, just the textures. Heimdall, is that his name? I've definitely said that wrong. The watch, the guardian guy. Keeper of the Rainbow Bridge.

Yeah, the guy who never goes on break or seems to eat food or anything. Yeah, totally, yeah. But you know what? If you pan down, he's usually just peeing

in a jug. But I tell you what, you never see Doi thing until this part. He really steps up. One point in particular that he doesn't do much else because he's like,

well, I can't see shit so I'm off duty now. Yep. But yeah, his armour and that looks amazing. Fantastic. Because again,

one of those things where if you made it in the 90s, worst thing ever. Oh boy. But, yeah, I thought they fleshed out the old cast really, really well without adding too many new ones, which is good. Uh-huh, sure. Don't throw too many in.

Keep it the way it is. I mean, there's new villains and whatnot, but it's pretty much the same crew. And then Kat Dennings' new boyfriend, Goofy Englishman. Sure. Oh, and the dude from the IT crowd. Or the IT crowd. Oh, yeah, sure.

He makes an appearance. Yeah. Love it. He's great. He doesn't really need to be in that movie. No, but he dude from The IT Crowd. Or The It Crowd. Oh yeah, sure, he makes an appearance. Yeah. I love it. He's great. He doesn't really need to be in that movie. No, but he's great at everything, sure. He's great. I mean, he doesn't need to be in it, but why wouldn't you put him in there?

Chris O'Dowd, because he's the best. He is. You know Sif, Jamie Alexander from that. Do I? Yeah. What is she in? Has she been in... Was she in Friday Night Lights or something?

Where do we know her from? She probably is in that. I've never seen it. So, yes, she's in that. Great. But she's also in that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie that was out this year, The Last Stand. Ah, I didn't see it. Yeah. So that's probably what I remember her from. It's actually not that bad. There you go. But yeah, anyway, she mentioned recently, and this ties into news, I'm bringing it back, that she was in talks, or had just been talking to Warner Brothers about a role

in a DC movie. Now, it could be like a girlfriend of Batman. Sure. Or it could be Wonder Woman. Could be Wonder Woman. I think she'd be a great Wonder Woman. I think she really would, yeah. People are saying Gina Carraro.

Gina Carrano. Nope. People are just on the street saying Gira Carraro. Yeah. They're just really, just really working on those rolling R's. Yeah, people are saying her, but I think Jamie Alexander would be a much better choice. Yeah, I think you're right. She's got the darker complexion.

I'm assuming they can't be like, if you sign up for Marvel or DC, you can't be like, you're restricted to this universe. Because Ryan Reynolds has done Green Lantern and Deadpool. Correct. And Vampire Crossbow Man. Yeah, at some point they might introduce some sort of exclusivity. Yeah. They wouldn't.

I mean, if you've done Green Lantern, or you've done any kind of comic book movie, then they would know that you know how to work with CGI and looking at a piece of paper with an X on it and pretending it's a dragon or whatever. Like in Harry Potter. Yeah, like in Harry Potter, exactly. Yeah, so I think she'd be great for that role. I enjoy the work of the Warriors 3 in both of these films.

Did you like the new guy, the guy from Chuck who took over? Yes. Different guy. He's very... Are we talking not Sif, not Vol new guy? The guy from Chuck who took over? Ah, yes. Different guy. Very, he's very, are we talking not the guy, not Sif, not Volstead? The blonde dude. The blonde guy.

He's, um, yeah, he, he couldn't be any more Carrie Elwes in The Princess Bride if he tried. I enjoyed that a lot. I was like, oh, they could have,

I mean, Carrie Elwes has to be like 55 now, but could have got him in for a little bit of a change. Though he's, um, and I don't mean to be body fascist, he's not in the shape that he used to be. Yeah.

I mean, he cut his foot off in that movie. Oh, yeah. He's all right, though, right? If he was in the 50s, they would have shot him. That's true, yeah. And Ray Stevenson, Punisher Warzone, is a nice tag. I never picked that up. Really?

Yeah. No, he's good. Big beard, that's why. Great beard. I don't think that's a real beard, though. I don't think he really grew that beard. Huh. What do you think don't think that's a real beard, though. I don't think he really grew that beard. Huh. What do you think?

I think you're right. Confirmed. Mm-hmm. Loki, without spoiling his particular part in this movie, do you think that he was great? Yes. Yeah, me too. What a great actor. What a great performance.

What a great dude. Yep. Everything about that guy's amazing. I thought I'd be sick of him at this point. Yep. But every time he's on the screen, he's amazing. Gives little kids piggyback rides. What?

On set. Have you seen that? No. What a sweetheart. Tom Hiddleston, Avengers, giving a little kid a piggyback ride. Just Google that. God, what a guy. I know, right?

Yeah. I tell you what. I think the little kid's dressed as Captain America. I'm pretty sure he is. So that's... What a sport. Yeah. I know, right? Yeah. I'll tell you what. And I think the little kid's dressed as Captain America. I'm pretty sure he is. So that's... What a sport. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. I love hearing stuff like that.

It melts my heart. You know I hate everything. Yeah, I know you do, yeah. Stuff like that, I like. Yeah, good on him. See, that's the guy who's totally embraced it. He's not like, I'm too good for this, I'm going to move on and do something else. Uh-huh, sure.

Which a lot of times people do. Totally embraced it. Yeah, yeah. He'll be fine. I hope he lives forever. Uh-huh. And he does a lot of excellent roles. totally embraced it yeah yeah he'll be fine I hope he lives forever and he does a lot of excellent roles yes

and I hope he lives longer than me wow yeah I'm saying it me too wait me or you no you

okay fair enough maybe if I die he can do the podcast with you that'd be great he's such a good dude he would

he would wouldn't he yeah no it's great the character's consistent. Yep. It's layered. Yep.

You know. And his story arc, like, it makes sense, like, his actions, without getting too specific, it all makes sense. Yep. Like, it's not like, that's really out of character for that particular guy. Because you always see as well, like, in all the movies that he and Thor do kind of, they do love each other, I guess. Is that weird for me to say the word love on this podcast?

Don't do it again. That's our one. But don't do it again. Like, you can see that. They really plough each other, I guess. Is that weird for me to say the word love on this podcast? Don't do it again. That's our one. But don't do it again. Like, you can see that. They really plough each other well. He's definitely, not to discredit Chris Hemsworth, who's great as Thor, really good Thor, but he's definitely more charismatic than Thor, I would say. Thor's mellowed quite a lot, I think.

Well, he used to be like, I'll kill everybody! And now he's kind of like, alright. I'll kill everybody everybody but i'm kind of having a good time yeah is this a rock monster i'll smash it yeah and then i'll make a little pun yeah i don't think he made a pun but he could he did he goes he smashes this is in the clip if you haven't seen it smashes a rock monster then he goes anyone else that's not a pun it's a pun you do not know what a pun is we're gonna talk off air I once went to a stand up comedy show

in Melbourne it was called Pundemonium did you invite me no thanks a bunch well you wouldn't because here's the thing

you may as well have been in there because the stand up comedian and he talked to the audience and he's like so everybody

what's your favourite pun does your dad have a pun that he busts out I would I would have told the Thor story. And there was a guy in the audience who was like, I don't know what a pun is. Oh wow. Like he flat out said, I don't know what a pun is at a show called Pundemonium that presumably he paid money to go to. Anyway, that's. Do you think he just likes words that are slightly different? Then he likes puns, doesn't he? Yeah. Instead of pandemonium. Yeah, no, I get it. Sure.

We're not good at this. No, we're really good. I think you're mistaking it. You know what else is really good about it? First of all, I think it's better than Iron Man 3. I think we can agree on that. Absolutely. Because you hate Iron Man 3 with the passion and fire of a thousand suns. Is that correct?

I think that's correct, yeah. Wow. It's a lot of suns. But you know what was good about this? Like, in Iron Man 3, the argument can be made all the way through it. Where's everybody else? What's everybody else doing? That's a really good point. Where's the Hulk?

Where's Captain America? Where's even Hawkeye? Yeah, he could It's probably up in a cage somewhere you can't get down because the cage is broken or something. Yeah, probably. Yeah. But, um, yeah, but in this, the world, and this is just the world that they've created in the comics, you can just go, well, different world, too bad, they're not here. That's true, yeah.

Which is such, I don't know, it just makes the movie make more sense, I think. Like, the Avengers aren't here. Of course they're not here. It wouldn't make sense if they weren't here. They don't have a way into that dimension. No. Either dimension. Not yet. No. That's not a spoiler, though, is it? That's got nothing to do with anything. Correct. Yeah, good. wouldn't make sense they don't have a way into that dimension no either dimension not yet

no that's not a spoiler though is it that's got nothing to do with anything correct yeah good just wanted to check

it's hard to review anything without spoiling it it really is I just want to spoil everything I'll just say one more thing

two more things and then we'll spoil the hell out of it okay go ahead we got time sure now the complaint of this

the light tone thing we brought up at the start, is that the humour's a bit much. What do you think of that? I'm okay with it because he is a Nordic alien who speaks with a British accent and he wears a cape and he has a hammer and he flies around using the hammer it's a bit silly yep and i think you should embrace that so do you think um like where superhero movies get super serious like even x-men days of future past looks you think it's a mistake to go super serious not a mistake well in a movie like this is it like call your jets there don't be so serious golden compass I think

I think that in watching this if you do go super serious at a certain point the audience will say hey this is a little bit ridiculous hey

it's best to acknowledge it in the in the context of the film and say hey we're just having fun here I think look I don't think and again I said this in my review, Mr. Sunday Tube, that...

That's the one. That I didn't think every joke landed. But that's like any movie. Not every joke lands. Yeah. But the main... I mean, that extended sequence where Thor just farts. That ten minutes where he just farts.

Some would say it's a bit much but i love that because it's all the expressions on his face he just keeps changing you know he carried that you carried that scene didn't he exactly yeah and jane's all like oh you know she's just space so many levels of disgust you know she's just like oh i love this big galoot but but yeah i think, and the problem I have with it, and this is just a personal taste for me, the comedy with Kat Dennings. Yep. I don't hate Kat Dennings. I've never seen Two Broke Girls.

She's probably hilarious. Probably not, because that show looks the worst. Uh-huh, sure. Every time, towards the end scene, especially the kind of climactic kind of battle, spoiler alert, not really, that's not a spoiler spoiler there's a climactic battle in the movie I think a lot of the stuff she says and does

she's still being wacky she's still being wacky she's cut all that shit out like there's one particular scene

where and this isn't a spoiler where Thor gets on a tube station maybe it is a spoiler it's not really

is it it's not at all it has no consequence and it's a little moment of levity. Uh-huh, sure. And I'm like, oh, that's pretty funny. It would have been funnier if Kat Dennings didn't say a bunch of stuff leading up to this.

Before and after. I think it was just like super intense, one lighthearted moment. Or a couple. There's that moment in the Avengers where the Thor and the Hulk are teaming up. Yeah. And then Hulk just taps him. Spoiler alert. Sorry.

Just hits him on the face. And that kind of breaks the tension a little bit. Exactly, yeah. And there's that when he thumps Loki or whatever. There's not a lot of other comedy in that. Sure. But those are a few bits and pieces. But yeah, I think...

You know, I can see where people are coming from. If they're like, it got too goofy. Yeah. I think that's a fair thing to say. But I would say bloody lighten up. You know But I would say bloody lighten up, you know? Would you say bloody lighten up, dickhead? I'd probably say bloody lighten up, cobber. Because we're British.

Some people think I'm British. They're like, usually when I get insulted, which happens quite a lot, they'll be like, look at this British dickhead. Go back to Britain, you dickhead. Have you thought about going back to Britain? Where you live. It's crossed my mind. Yeah, exactly.

Maybe I'm wrong. I think probably, yeah. But yeah, it always makes me laugh. But yeah, insults are pretty funny. They are, yeah. But yeah, I never fight back either. It's only because I'm a coward though. Not because of high ground.

No, exactly. I don't want them to find me. They'll find you and beat you up. What about the villain? Malekith. Keith Urban. Urban legend. Stop it. He's a little bit bland.

Well played though by Christopher Eccleston. Yeah, I didn't pick that. Should I have? No. Okay, good. Because I didn't aton. Yeah, I didn't pick that. Should I have? No. Okay, good. Good, because I didn't at all. Yeah, I think he didn't get a lot of votes. It's because I always just think of him as Destro. Of course.

Another classic villain he played. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, look, I didn't think he was that menacing for a number of reasons. I'm not going to say why yet. I'll say it as a spoiler thing. But you know who I thought was a really good villain? And I know his name is Curse,

but I'm going to call him Wood Bull because he looks like a wooden bull. Sure, absolutely. I thought he was very intimidating and threatening. Even if they throw in that whole, you know, a guy gets captured on purpose, which every movie does. Skyfall, Avengers. Dark Knight, right?

Dark Knight. Dark Knight? Dark Knight. Never heard of it. Oh, sorry. All right. Star Trek Into Darkness. That woodball is very...

It was very reminiscent of those monsters in the Lord of the Rings films. What are they called? Oh, the Uruk-hai. There we go. Thank you. That's very true. Didn't pick up on that. Well, I thought the whole opening sequence is very opening sequence of Lord of the Rings.

Uh-huh. It's like owls fighting magic men and whatever and explosions well that's probably deliberate I mean people have

fans of Lord of the Rings and the Hobbits and etc why not bring it in on something we know and then laser turrets and rocket shooting barges

little skiffs little flying skiff things like in Star Wars like in Star Wars wow that's pretty cool. Yeah, look, we're going to do spoilers now.

Is there anything else you want to say genuinely before we spoil everything? No, let's spoil everything. Let's spoil everything. Okay, so we're going to be talking post-credit scenes, cameos, twists, all of it. Sure. So, cut off right now. If you don't want to know anything, get the fuck out of here. Beat it.

Beat it. Hit the bricks bucko yeah but thank you for listening if you do thank you for listening to this far we really

come back um come back watch the film when it comes out yeah come back definitely and then disagree with everything you

say past this point yeah it's gonna be good thanks guys normally at this point in the podcast thank god thank god

yeah that's what I was gonna say sticks in the mud god has there ever been a podcast where they've done a spoiler sticker Normally at this point in the podcast... Thank God they're gone. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Sticks in the mud. God. Has there ever been a... Has there ever been a podcast where they've done a spoiler sticker and then haven't gone? Thank God they're gone straight after. Ah, probably not.

But why not continue the tradition? Why wouldn't we? Yeah. It's like Christmas in many ways. Isn't it though? Yeah. Um, okay. Cameos.

The best cameo in the movie is... Stanley. You bloody god! Of course it's Stanley. Of course it's Stanley. I was... Yeah. Do you think he clamours for more lines in things?

Because initially he'd never say anything. No. You'd just see his face. He's saved by Daredevil or Spider-Man. Yeah, and then... Or the Rocketeer. And then I think he was like... When Iron Man started, he was like,

Hey, can I be holding two beautiful women and pretend to be Hugh Hefner? Here we go, though. Fantastic Four, I think it's two. He's got a whole scene. He's the mailman or the doorman, and he has a whole conversation. Sure, yeah. How do you know the name of the doorman from Fantastic Four? Because he's a famous...

Oh, it's the Baxter building, isn't it? Yeah, no, he's... Is it not the Baxter building? He's Marvel's most famous mailman, Willy Lumpkin. Right. He was dated Aunt May for a while, I think. Did he? Yes. I bet Peter Parker loved that. I bet he did. I bet he didn't. Ew. mailman Willie Lumpkin right he was dated Aunt May for a while I think did he yes

I bet Peter Parker loved that I bet he did I bet he didn't ew yeah ah Stanley cameo aside that Steve Rogers

Captain America cameo blew my mind that was great I enjoyed that a lot I'm very rarely caught off guard in everything because I know

everything about a movie going in did not see that coming at all nothing leaked it was funny it made sense it was relevant it was great because I know everything about a movie going in. Did not see that coming at all. Nothing leaked. It was funny. It made sense.

It was relevant. It was great. They would have had to get the Captain America costume and put it in a lead box and courier it in to the studio on the proviso that was radioactive and nobody could look into it and then do the same with Chris Evans.

And, you know, do it in one take. Yeah. Clothes set. Yeah. It'd be like filming a sex scene or whatever. All non-essential personnel out the door. Yeah. We're going to do something here.

Shut up. Shut up and don't talk about it. Yeah. So I'm glad that there is still room for some surprises in these kind of films. Yeah. It's really nice. Now that with Comic-Con and all the leaked footage.

Yeah. And all the, you know, paparazzi shots of, you know, sets and things like that. That there's a leak, you know, there's a couple of things that slip through the net. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's great. I thought it was maybe even better, at least on par with the Wolverine cameo in X-Men First Class.

That was pretty good, yeah. I should have put a spoiler alert for that as well. That movie's been out for years, right? One month, I think. Wow. I've fallen asleep for a really long time, haven't I? Yeah, you have. You absolutely have.

Yeah, great work. The Loki twist. Twists and turns along the way. Yeah. Now, this was thought for me that Thor got his hand cut off. Ooh. I didn't see the footage, but at Comic-Con, they showed the footage where he gets his hand cut off. Somebody just had a banner.

Yeah. Holding up a banner that says, Thor loses his hand. Choppy chop. I genuinely thought he lost his hand. Yep. No part of me thought that wasn't real. And I was maybe a little bit disappointed

that they resolved it so quickly, but I thought it was a clever way to do it. Where that whole thing was to play Malekith. I didn't see it coming. Yeah. It was good. Yeah. And it's, you know, in terms of playing that out.

Yeah. You know, because often when one of those things happen, you think back at it and you go, hang on, well, why did they... Why did that happen before anyone was watching? Or, you know, there's always some flaw in logic. And you go, why are they playing at this even though the only people watching are the viewers of the film? But I think they worked it through logically. They did.

And also because the elves could see them at that point. So when... If you remember, which I'm sure you do, I'm talking to people at home, where Loki stabs Thor yes stabs Thor a lot he does doesn't he

do you reckon he should stab Thor less I think Thor should probably get like a stabby proof vest yeah I mean Loki shouldn't be stabbing him

in the first place it's not Thor's fault that he's being stabbed but knowing that Loki is probably going to stab you, stab you, Professor. Be ready. Yeah, be ready.

Obviously the Loki death fake-out. I died not for a second. Severed arm-wise, I spent most of that scene wondering how they did the severed arm effect. They do it all the time. All they do, they do green glove

no but I mean there was clearly some practical effect involved like where Thor's rolling around he's always got his he's always got his forearm pressed to his chest I think maybe they just

put an extra like an extra breastplate over his hand and he sort of tilted it or he could have just had his arm behind his back and that was a fake arm so many options

I know I'm going to write an email to the production designer yeah look not for a second I think Loki was dead did you think he was dead no absolutely not

he's too valuable a character in that series I mean I wasn't like oh that's bullshit what a crap twist like of course

he's going to do that that's completely within the character makes perfect sense and of course no one ever really dies no in real life

precisely so why would you die in a movie? They all just go to live in a farm, right? That's where all my relatives have gone, right? Yeah. So did you like the twist at the end where he was... So I think he's obviously perhaps captured Odin. I was going to say Loden.

It's a type of... It's a colour. Oh, is it? It's a shade of green. Really? Yes. Is that a Loden it's a type of it's a colour oh is it it's a shade of green really yes is that a Loden shirt you're wearing no

that's blue yeah I got that wrong it's like a navy blue it is yeah wow you know like a lot of guys are colour blind

it's like a very large percentage yeah it's like red and green yeah I had a guy I went to school with this is a funny story is it you know what for me it is I'll be the judge of it

normally I keep personal stuff out of it. Listeners, I would like you very specifically to email in if you did not find this a funny story.

And for every person who says they didn't find it funny, he's getting a slap. Wow, okay. You really set me up to be slapped here. Well, you've set it up yourself.

It's a funny story. A guy I went to school with, like, super nice, enthusiastic guy, but way, way too irritating. For years, he was like, I'm going to be a pilot. You can see where this is going, I'm sure. I really can, boy. And he's like... And for years and years, he was like, he was talking it up. And eventually, he worked it out, he was colourblind.

Like in Little Miss Sunshine, the movie. Uh-huh. And he... But he kept on pushing through and being like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do it. I can do it. And a lot of people had to sit him down multiple times and be like by law

you cannot. Nothing against your will and determination but you cannot be a pilot. And now he's dead. He's not dead. He's not dead. He's so good at the end He's so bad at the end

I'm like this is quite morbid I thought you were going to go He's dead Or like he fell in a big pile of manure At the end That would have been great That would have been The second best ending

But I'm glad I'm glad you went with that one But he's doing alright Apparently he's doing some stuff He's always updating Facebook He's always at an airport He flies a lot for work. And he's always like, just at Sydney airport, not a big deal.

Don't worry about it. It's like, hey, shut the fuck up. It's not a big deal. Nobody cares. Everybody can fly now. Oh my god. Flying is like catching a bus. Seriously.

Yeah. In the sense that it's boring. And uncomfortable. Some of the seats smell of wee now. Yeah. What's going on there? What are we talking about? I've completely lost track. Okay. Let's get on to the seats smell of wee now. Yeah. What's going on there? What are we talking about? I've completely lost track.

Okay, let's get on to the villain. So I'm going to spoil the whole villain thing. I thought that thing that the villain was trying to get didn't actually turn out to be that important. Because, first of all, that villain's not very good for a number of reasons. Thor's mother can beat the crap out of him. That's a good point. And nothing against Renee Russo. She's, you know, she's been in the Lethal Weapon movie before, I think, four, maybe

some other ones. I don't know. Yeah. But like, she could kick the crap out of a lot of people. Yeah. But, um, and then, so it's like, if Renee Russo can beat up this guy. Yeah. Obviously Thor can beat up this guy.

Sure. Yeah. But then when he gets the, the blood magic, I don't know what that is. Yeah. Um, at the end. The blagic. The blagic. You can just hit him a bunch. Sure, yeah. But then when he gets the blood magic, I don't know what that is, at the end, the blagic, you can just hit him a bunch. Sure, absolutely. Like, it doesn't really matter.

You've just got to distract him until the planets or the realms don't align. What's weird is that that explosive defense mechanism that Natalie Portman's character has, it doesn't work. When he's got it, it doesn't activate. Wow, I didn't even think of that. I mean, there was a lot of chaos happening. Yeah. So maybe you did a couple of times. Yeah.

Well, Thor was never thrown back by it. There was even when the explosiveness went off. Correct. Yeah. Do you like the bit where Thor was throwing the things at him and his arms were going into different realms? I was ambivalent towards it. Did you like the bit at the end?

Did you like the end battle? Yeah. Did you not like the end battle? I was okay with it. I didnent towards it. Did you like the bit at the end? Did you like the end battle? Yeah. Did you not like the end battle? I was okay with it. I didn't love it. I think it was a bit kind of inconsequential. Yeah, I mean, we know the universe isn't going to end. Yeah.

I mean, that's, you know, the conceit of all these movies is the universe could end. We obviously know that it's not going to end. But, you know, in the event, you know, there's a suspension of belief that we have to hold on to. Suspension of disbelief, rather, that we have to hold on to. Yeah. And I didn't really feel it with Thor. No. I'm like, of course it's going to end up fine.

Yeah. But I was okay with that. Yeah, I wasn't like, this is bullshit. Yeah. Like, it completely made sense. Yeah, I didn't mind the end battle. I liked the whole flying through different realms and all that kind of stuff. I thought that was a clever way to do it.

Yeah. I liked seeing a lot of the different realms as well even if I only saw them briefly you just love realms I do they're pretty good yeah so yeah

I thought he was an okay villain I can understand why people like he's a I wouldn't say he's terrible but he's not very memorable yeah no he's no

Khan from Star Trek Into Darkness he's no Eric B Khan from Star Trek Into Darkness. He's no Eric Banner from Star Trek Reboot. No, that's very true. It's very true. He's no Eric Banner from that movie Eric Banner did about his car. It's pretty good, right? Eric Banner's such a good actor.

What is he doing? I don't know. He just makes the worst movies. Hang on. Chopper was good, right? Chopper was in 1999, maybe? And nobody knows what that is. If you're not Australian, you've never heard of it.

Americans know and love the film Chopper. Really? Yeah. Listeners, email in specifically if you know the movie Chopper. If you do, every person who knows the movie Chopper, James gets a slap. I was going to say, every person who doesn't. That's the end of it. That's the end of the rule.

That's it. That's it. Yeah. I think going to say, every person who does this... That's the end of it. That's the end of the rule. That's it. That's it. Yeah. I think he just had a bad trot. Like, he's been in big budget movies. Hulk, obviously. Bleh. Troy.

Yep. Massive. That was Brad Pitt's highest grossing film before World War II. Do you know that? God, I love just going way off topic. I think... I mean, it's probably...

Because he's, you know... You're a Hollywood type. I am. Probably earn... Oh, sorry. am probably earn oh sorry they probably you know probably earn you know millions of dollars for a film

and they're always chasing the next multi-million dollar paycheck yeah I mentioned Eric Banner probably got a big payday for something he's like I'm going to take 10 years off

because I can he has done stuff he did the one where he was a poker player professional poker player oh sure he did the one about his car which he mentioned

love the beast sure love the beast have you seen that? No. Yeah. Anyway. Eric Banner, do something good, why don't you? Yeah. That was in Munich. That was good.

Never seen it. I heard it's super kind of depressing. Yeah, that's why it's good. Well, I don't like being depressed, Mason. I have to go just like constantly watch happy things. Oh, I will kill myself. That's why you're into a Thor, too. Yes, it's a thought. It's a thought. It's a dark world.

It's a delight. Okay. Look, mid-credits scene. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about Benicio Del Toro. People are flipping out about that. Mostly people who haven't seen it because they've seen a picture of it and are like, that's the dumbest looking costume and hair I've ever seen. That's quite comic accurate. Yeah, that's what Iest looking costume and hair I've ever seen that's quite comic accurate

yeah that's what I thought yeah and I think in motion it looks better and he's got that weird accent he's like

ooooh ooooh beautiful ooooh so is that an infinity gem what's the deal with that I guess they're I don't know

I mean the infinity gems traditionally are are gems they're very they're like smooth oval kind of yeah yeah I'm okay with that I mean, the Infinity Gems traditionally are gems. They're very smooth oval kind of... Yeah. Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with them all looking different.

But how is that an Infinity Gem? What does it do? Isn't there a set number of them? Yeah, there's six. You better get this 100% right. Oh, God. Time. Reality.

Power? I think one's cereal Yeah one's cereal And one's Vegetable Fruit and vegetable Yeah And then sugars is the smallest one That's six

So That's what you should use the least Is that right? Yeah Yeah it's a small Yeah exactly I don't know Yeah I

Yeah Well you know Alan Taylor wasn't happy. The director of Thor, the Dark Lord. That he had to add that in. Well, because it's directed by James Gunn, who made Guardians of the Galaxy. He's currently still working on it. Also, just that couple of minutes was directed by James Gunn. Yep.

And thrown in there. Yep. Why is he upset with that? I don't know, because it's his movie, I guess. But not really. Because Marvel owned it. Marvel owned every single part of that

so he was like you know what I wasn't really happy that I didn't get a say in it and whatever and they just did it but I don't think even if that was

the worst scene ever which it definitely isn't it doesn't ruin the movie and I mean was he going to do a mid-credit sequence because I mean

or he didn't end credit one that wasn't a thing though it's not even a thing. I think the Marvel movie, the Marvel Studios movie is going to have a mid-credit sequence and it's going to tie into whatever the next thing is. Like, that is a... That's a fair...

It's only been a few years, but that is a fairly established tradition at this point. Yeah. You can't sign a contract to direct that and they say hey we're gonna have this extra little scene yeah boo hoo

yeah that's right don't don't just let it ride man and he said he's not sure he'll do another

one because it took him two years to do this one he's flying all over the world different locations blah blah

and they screwed him on the mid-credits sequence yeah pretty much um also uh end credits scene where Thor comes back and him and Jane embrace and then there's that cat monster from the ice world yeah sure yeah pretty much also end credit scene where Thor comes back

and him and Jane embrace and then there's that cat monster from the ice world yeah sure that knocks over a thing what do you think of that

post credit scene um yeah that was fine I like it I mean it shows he's back for Avengers 2 yeah he's back on Earth

that's right it does serve a purpose unlike the end of the Iron Man one which serves I mean 3-1 that serves zero purpose correct other than just be like hey look who we got yeah off the street to do this Unlike the end of the Iron Man one, which serves... Iron Man 3 one, that serves zero purpose. Correct.

Other than just be like, hey, look who we got off the street to do this. He was just... We didn't brush his hair. Yeah, yeah. He's wearing the same t-shirt he woke up in. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, look, you know... Yeah.

Go back to the mid-credits sequence, though. I'm... Okay, yeah. I'm excited for Guardians of the Galaxy. Me too. I just... I want to see more of it, because I've only seen... And we talked about this just before.

And it's nice to see the Norse gods interacting with... Yeah. I like to see them interacting with the alien species. Yeah. Do you reckon the Norse gods are kind of like the rednecks of the universe? Yeah, maybe. Not the rednecks, that's the wrong word. But, you know, like the backwards...

Like the Amish of the universe. Yeah, kind of, because they keep to themselves. Yeah. And they're all, you know, they're walled off and they have their own technology. Also, if you're Amish, you shouldn't be listening to this. Do the right thing. That's a good point. Yeah.

Good. We covered it. Excellent. Yeah. The Collector traditionally is millions of years old. Yeah. And he's not a villain or not a villain, is he? He just kind of serves the galaxy.

There's an assortment of sort of they're called the elders of the universe and they've all through various means acquired a way of becoming immortal and some of them

just hang out like I mean there's there's like Ego the living planet who's a planet what's he like he's a cool dude

has he ever met Unicron oh what if they did that'd be the best do you reckon what if I just turned into Daffy Duck then yeah what if they did? That'd be the best. Do you reckon... What if... That is turning into Daffy Duck then. Yeah.

Oop. What if Ego met Galactus? I think that's happened, but I haven't read that one. Did Ego turn into a giant man and they wrestled? Oh, boy. I hope so. Or Galactus turned into a big sphere and they just crashed into one another. That'd be pretty good.

On two big cosmic strings on one of those desk toys. Just once? Yeah, just once. And then they high-fived and went their separate ways. But yeah, so there's... There's like the runner. What's he about? He just runs around the universe.

Doing what? Running. Why? Well, that's his power. He's really good at running. Doing what? Running. Why? Well, that's his power. He's really good at running. Does he use it for anything? Winning races. How does he run through space?

That's flying. Yeah, but he uses his legs. What? I know. You know what? I hope he's in Guardians of the Galaxy. I hope he's not. Okay, fine.

Because he sounds stupid. Yeah, I guess so. Okay, so he just runs around. Yeah. Is he like a mischief maker? No, it's just a little run. Wow. What?

Pointless. I mean, he probably, like, he probably, white men can't jump a lot of running races throughout the universe. Like, he hobbles. He goes to, like, Saturn and he hobbles up to the starting line and he's like, you want to make this interesting? And they put down a few space bucks and then, sho and then he just runs all the way across the universe. How quick is he? Like real quick.

Oh God. Okay. God, that sounds like an incredibly unrelatable boy. I hope there's a spinoff movie. I hope there's a Marvel one shot at the very least called The Runner. And it's just him running about just doing odd jobs making ends meet oh jeez

so do you remember when I said the thing at the start about the Thanos thing the Avengers 3 news oh yeah okay Avengers 3 not 2

not 2 okay you know how Thanos is at the end of Avengers we've covered it sure we have

yep Avengers 2 is Ultron yep Kevin Feige said that Avengers 2 is Ultron. Yep. Kevin Feige said that Avengers 3 is like... He's always saying stuff, isn't he? He says so much. Go on, then. He says...

Yeah, actually, I think he's a good dude. Or not. I don't care. But he's... He was saying that Thanos can be likened... Or somebody said, is it like a big boss in a video game? And he's like, I guess so. In the sense that everything builds towards it.

You don't see him. And then everything comes to a head. And then he's just throwing barrels down at you. You know, he's just throwing barrels. He's just... Quick, give me another boss. Batman Returns and the Atari Leaks. He's just in a big duck.

He's just in a big duck coming at you. And you don't know what to do. Where's me Batarangs? Give me another boss quickly. Oh God. Thanos is just like. King Koopa. He's just like Bowser guy. He's just like Bowser. You bloody, you jump on an axe and his bridge opens and he falls into some fire. Ganon. You just get the Triforce. I don't really play those. Metroid. He's just like a real big brain in a jar. Prince of Persia.

He's just a big pile of sand, you know? Just standing outside your bedroom window threateningly, you know? Here's one for you. Donkey Kong on the Super Nintendo. Who was the villain in that? I think it was a crocodile. He's just like a big crocodile just snapping away that's what Thanos is like

good on you Kevin Feige you've nailed this one that's a great game that Donkey Kong game alright that's pretty much it I think cool anything else you want to say about

oh worst movie ever or best movie ever best movie ever I said in my review and people lost it when I said this because I've you don't know this but I've? Best movie ever. I said in my review, and people lost it when I said this, because you don't know this, but I've adopted the rating system.

Please cut my way. In my reviews on the Mr. Sunday to Sunday YouTube channel. I love it. Best movie ever, worst movie ever. Because people always say to me, not always, maybe one person has said, you should do a rating system. And I don't like rating systems because it gets too specific. So I'm like, this is what's good, this is what's bad, do what you want. Yeah, sure.

Whatever. So my rating system is best movie ever, worst movie ever. So you still provide all the essential information for people to make up their own mind whether they're going to see it. But then you say best movie ever, worst movie ever, completely arbitrarily. Yes. How are people finding that? Well, some people thought it was funny because it's obviously a joke.

Some people are like, because I called it worst movie ever because I called it worst movie ever. Sure. Because I said it wasn't as good as Masters of the Universe. Okay, good. And a lot of people got it. Some people were like, what's wrong with you? Why would you say that?

Take it back and whatever. Like, I'm obviously not going to take it back. No. I'm obviously not going to make another video to take it back. So, yeah. So, that's what I'm going to do from now on. Love it. So, one, for me, best movie ever.

You, worst movie ever yeah there we go yeah stale mate stale mate we're stale mates in a way I've had a few beers

and I was going to say this at the start but I was at the pub and then I came home to sit in the dark and do this and you were the same right yeah but I wasn't drinking

because I knew we had a podcast today it's not true I was driving I didn't want to yet again I left a nice today. It's not true. I was driving. I didn't want to. Yet again, I left a nice sunny day. It's really nice out.

It's so nice. Not now. It's getting late. But to come and do this. But, you know, I enjoy this and I enjoy all the lovely feedback we get.

Me too. Yeah. It's been good. That's pretty much it. What are we talking about next week? I have no idea. I'm at a loss. I don't know.

I thought maybe we could do X-Men movies. We could do that. We could, yeah, we could do that. We could... Well, coming up, we can do Hunger Games. We could have a look at some listener comments, see what they want us to say. Oh, yeah, that's a good idea.

That's great. Yep. So if you want us to talk about a thing, go. Yeah, good. No, I meant go. Name the things they can contact us on. Oh, sure, absolutely. That was what the point meant.

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isn't it though yeah yeah alright so yeah so also coming up we'll do a Doctor Who one that's coming out this month

Day of the Doctor you know how I feel about Doctor Who you'll love it it's not that no it's not that it's

I've got many feelings about Doctor Who it's going to be great yeah it's going to no it's not that it's ugh I've got many feelings about Doctor Who it's gonna be great yeah it's gonna be good we can also you know what I did see the last one though

which one the one the last one the 1995 movie with Paul McGann yeah that one I saw that one then I had a brief hiatus

and then I saw that last one what happened the last one the last episode the name of the doctor that one okay he and he there's the grave the big TARDIS oh yeah I enjoyed that one last one. What happened in the last one? The last episode. The name of the doctor? That one? Okay. He...

And he... There's the grave? The big TARDIS? Oh, yeah. I enjoyed that one. Yeah, that's pretty good. And River Song was a goose? That's the one. That actually tied back into the library thing, finally, which happened in like 2005. I don't know what that means. You have no idea what that means. No idea what it means. Yeah. I'm a bit of a Doctor Who fan. Only more recent. I don't like any of the...

Not even like. It might be great. I bet it's fucking not, though though all the old stuff let's do a Doctor Who episode maybe not next week but soon yeah well we'll have to do it after the show comes out

yeah yeah totally and also we'll do a Hunger Games one even though because that's on the website there's a lot of stuff on the website that people talk about

so we can talk about that even though people will be like unrelated love it love it yeah thanks guys thank you see you later. Bye.

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