The Weekly Planet - 60 The Hunger Games Mockingjay Pt 1 & Doctor Who

Episode Date: November 23, 2014

Episode 60 brings us news of Cowboy Ninja Viking, Howard The Duck, Highlander, Prometheus 2 & G.I. Joe 3.Plus we discuss the latest installment in the HG franchise and Doctor Who 2014! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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something wrong with the equipment did you did you delete something important whatever i'm like what's going on there and you were like oh i just thought of somebody who hugged me this week and i didn't like it yeah that's troubling it was a from it was a guy i don't really know that well and he came up behind me oh and just double the hands over and it just made me you know he linked the hands in front He linked the hands And it was like And it was like

How you doing But it was like on me Like right Like on my face And like on me Like an angry backpack Exactly Yeah I understand

So yeah And you know when Every part of your body Just like Clenches up Yeah totally So yeah That was

That was great So you've just been Having flashbacks to that Pretty much Exactly Huh I actually I just got this tweet That I wanted to mention This is from Warren That was great. So you've just been having flashbacks to that. Pretty much, exactly. Actually, I just got this tweet that I wanted to mention. This is from Warren, at CoolWarren. Oh, yes.

And he tweeted us this. And you, actually. Oh. Sean Connery single-handedly... Oh, this is from Google Facts. Oh, yes. Sean Connery single-handedly beat four men in a nightclub while Michael Caine held his coat. Great.

Did he think that those four men were his wife? Controversial. He's probably a really bad guy. Let's not. Yeah, that's it. I hope that would have been back in the day, but imagine if it was modern. That sums up both their kind of personalities, I think.

Don't you think? Michael Caine, gentlemanly, Sean Connery, thug. Thug, exactly probably a bad guy yeah alright straight into the news you're a fan of

Cowboy Ninja Viking aren't you? a little bit, yeah I haven't read it in a while but yeah well Chris Pratt has seemingly confirmed

his involvement in the movie adaptation oh that's pretty cool I should read that shouldn't I? yeah, definitely he's a secret agent isn't, that's got multiple personalities?

Yeah, he's part of a group of people all who have inexplicably useful alternate personalities. Sure. Yeah. And how is a cowboy better than a ninja? I mean, fight guns. Yeah, good point. I guess a ninja could... See, a modern day ninja can use guns.

Yeah. Okay, how is a Viking... What is a Viking... He's got rage. Yeah. Yeah. So does he... A berserker rage in ninja can use guns. Yeah. Okay, how is a Viking... What is a Viking... He's got rage. Yeah. He's got berserker rage and a hat with horns on it. Okay, good point. Does he...

He doesn't obviously physically change, but in the comic, do they alter the art style when he changes personalities? A little bit. You see sort of the aspect around him. Okay, cool. It sounds like... Do you ever read Five Ghosts? I've talked about it before.

No, I haven't. That's really cool. It's a little bit like Brave Star. Don't know that. Never mind. It's a little bit like Bravestar Don't know that Nevermind It's a cartoon You got animal powers or something Sure Yeah

Are you thinking of Roy Scheider or Rob Schneider's The Animal No Okay Nevermind I'm thinking of the Phantom In Defenders of the Earth

When he gave the powers of 10 tikes You see the 10 tikes I remember Which is never a power That he's had No never By the way Defenders of the Earth

Theme song here Defenders of the Earth theme song here. Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. Out of the sky, his rockets ignite. Jets into battle flying faster than light. I'm Scorn.

Lord of the jungle, the hero who stops. The beasts call him brother, but goes to war. Defenders. Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. Good. I love that theme song.

Stan Lee wrote that. We've talked about that. Yes, we have. That's pretty good. Howl the Duck. Oh, yes. For the first time in seven years, he's getting his own comic. We were tweeting about this as well. Boy, were we.

It's going to be written by Chip Zdarsky. I like Chip Zdarsky. He does Sex Criminals, which is really good. That seems right up his alley then, doesn't it? Because Howard the Duck is kind of this perverse kind of, but weirdly mundane kind of... Yeah, I guess so, yeah. He's a very down-to-earth character insofar as he keeps travelling through time and space and dimensions, and he's a duck. But he's not happy about it. He was a mouse in the last Howard the Duck Max, Marvel Max series.

He spent most of it as a mouse. Okay. I don't know why. With the duck bill? No, just a mouse. Just a regular... Like a human-sized mouse or a mouse? Oh, like a Mickey Mouse-sized mouse.

Okay. Yeah. Brendan McGee actually sent us that. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Actually, I got this. Not the real Howard the Duck. Correct.

It is the real Howard the Duck. Yeah, I think he sent us an email as well. Actually, I got this. Not the real How the Duck. Correct. It is the real How the Duck. Yeah, I think he sent us an email as well. Should we let people know, people at Marvel know that they've got the wrong duck or should we just keep it as an ambiguous secret

from them and send them helpful innuendo or tweets? Or Mason may like this one. We write in the streets or a lake considering the stories about a duck.

Correct. Any of those? All of those things. Correct. Yes. Yeah. I wonder if they'll address that. I don't.

Good question. I think, for those who don't know, for new listeners to this podcast, there's a, the How the Duck you see in the How the Duck comic books isn't the real How the Duck, thanks to a weird meta switcheroo that happened. We've got a video on that. We did a video.

If you look up, what is it? Do we need a How the Duck movie or something? My YouTube channel, it's there. But yeah, so basically, yeah, the real How the Duck isn't How the Duck, basically. Correct. He's in the Image Universe. But hey, whatever. Excited to see How the Duck.

Because I know you're a How the Duck fan. I'd like to see a return to How the Duck. Yeah. This could mean that maybe at some point we'll see him. Fake How the Duck. Fake How the Duck, sorry. Foul of the Duck. That we might see him again in the Marvel Universe?

They're testing the waters? I guess so, yeah. Maybe. Not anytime soon, but anyway. Great. Great stuff. That movie really hurt that character. Like a lot.

Yeah, it really did. Yeah. Anyway. Tom Cruise. Famous actor. He's in the upcoming Top Gun 2. Yes. Famously gets his motorcycle wrangled. Anyway. Tom Cruise. Famous actor. He's going to be... He's in the upcoming Top Gun 2. Yes. Famously gets his motorcycle wrangled.

Yes, he does. So he doesn't have to turn it around in a parking lot. Anyway. If I had that money, I'd do it, though. Yeah, definitely. Said he's being sought for the Highlander reboot. We didn't go to Chris... We didn't really talk about Chris Pratt doing that.

Oh, yeah. Cowboy Ninja Viking. Do you think he's going to be the main character? I think so. Surely he's... Like the cowboy or something. No, I mean, think he's gonna be the main character i think so surely he's like the cowboy or something no i mean surely he's like he wants to be star lord like yeah no he tweeted and said you know and basically alluded to it was reported on i think collider huh and he was like maybe i guess so like people say you know x actor will be a you know some actor will be an fbi agent

and a cop in different movies yeah i guess it guess it's, but I don't know. I kind of feel like if you have one, like, if your comic book character is iconic enough in a movie, you should probably stick to that character for a while. I think Star-Lord is kind of. Fair point. People are enjoying that character. Maybe stick to that for a while. Are you saying that Viggo Mortensen made a mistake starring in both Lord of the Rings and Hildalglo? I think yes, both of those things, yes.

Fair enough. Yeah, okay, well, people double up, though. Halle Berry's doubled up. Correct. Who else has doubled up? Ryan Reynolds has doubled up. Not well. These aren't good examples, are they?

Not at all, no. Who's done two good comic book characters, then? But I guess, like, Ian McKellen's magneto and lord of the rings i know they're not he is lord of the rings he is lord of the rings hugh jackman is both wolverine and whatever the name of his character was in the fountain darren aronofsky's the fountain he was yeah which i think well he was he was the fountain that wasn't he was that was a graphic novel wasn't it okay apparently the fountain was going to be a film with Brad Pitt and maybe Angelina Jolie. Some other big name.

And then they couldn't do it for whatever reason. Mr and Mrs Smith. Correct. And all the producers backed out. Yeah. And so they were like, well, we've got this script. We may as well make a graphic novel. We've got Darren Aron on board.

Yeah, we've got old Darren Aron. He's got his little scarfs nice and pressed, ready to go. And then we'll make a graphic novel about it, and then that got some more interest, and then they got Hugh Jackman and Rachel Weisz involved. Cool. And by all accounts, it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. I watched it on a plane.

Oh, great. Yeah. He exploded into flowers at the end. Spoiler alert. One of his versions. It's about time travel or something. No. Yeah.

Or different lives. Or reincarnation. I should watch that again. Nah, don't worry about it. Anyway, Tom Cruise oh yes star of Top Gun 2 yes

soon to be he's wait a second really yeah being sought for the Highlander reboot which originally was going to have Ryan Reynolds

oh yeah they're doing Top Gun 2 yeah that's for real wow last week there was not a lot of news there's a lot of revelation

Top Gun that's been a while in the making Top Gun 2 I mean people have been a while in the making, Top Gun 2. I mean, people have been saying I would like to see Top Gun 2. Do you want to see

a Top Gun 2? People have just been saying I want to see another shirtless volleyball scene. That's pretty much what people want. Do you like Top Gun? I've not seen it

all the way through. Yeah. Here's a list of movies I haven't seen all the way through. Top Gun, Labyrinth, The Dark Crystal,

neither of those. It's too late for me. It is. Everybody who wants me to see those. I watched The Labyrinth and I was like, I can's too late for me it is everybody who wants me to see those I watched The Labyrinth and I was like I can understand

like recently I was like I understand why people liked this but I don't like this yeah but as a kid I would have

it's amazing yeah those are the three films I haven't seen all the way through every other scene every other movie I've seen all the way through

not true not true but anyway his role Tom Cruise's role in the Highlander reboot won't be Connor McLeod, but more along the line of Sean Connery's character. Sure. He was an Egyptian guy who was also Spanish, and he was a Highlander also. Yeah.

Ramirez. Ramirez, that's right. But he had like a longer name. I can't remember. I like Highlander. I'd like to see a reboot because that series isn't very good is it

except for the first one and didn't you say the fifth one hang on let me work this out okay first one's good but again

for a movie primarily concerning sword fighting there's not very good sword fighting in it two is bad three is bad but it's got some

awesome 90s morphing in it. Do you want to see a man morph into a hawk in the way that things morphed in the 90s? Hey! Pretty good.

Sorry, my dog just bumped my microphone. Okay, let me think now. Okay, four is good, end game. Oh, yeah. It teams up the... With the TV show. Yeah, TV McLeod. Yeah.

We've talked about this before. Yeah. TV, I don't care. Yeah. And the sword fighting in it is good and the martial arts are good in that how do they explain

why Christopher Lambert looks really old well they just don't probably drugs and then 5 is terrible okay so watch 1 and 4 and 3 for the morphing

yes definitely alright great just go on YouTube and look up Highlander 3 morphing maybe and there'll be a highlights package. Great.

All right. Also, Sean Connery beats his wife. I cannot stress that enough. I'm not making a joke. It's bad. No, look it up. It's in a Playboy interview, and his wife also admitted to it in a separate interview. So, yeah.

Stop it. Yeah, please. Australia says no. Anyway, we say no. We do. Anyway, continue. Official stance of this podcast. We're against that.

Yes. Ridley Scott, who's making Prometheus 2. Yep. He says that expect a fresher form of alien in the third act of Prometheus. What does he mean by fresher? Like... Backwards baseball cap. Crisp brim.

Yeah. Straight as you like. Yeah, so crisp. Still got that little hologram sticker on it. Yeah. Yeah. When can bent brim hats come back? you like. Yeah, so crisp. Strategy can get it. Still got that little hologram sticker on it. Yeah. Yeah. When did, when can bent brim

hats come back? When can bent brim hats come back? That's when I'll start wearing a hat again. I like a bent brim I'm not wearing

a straight brim hat. You know you can bend your own. Yeah, but it's not cool to wear them. And I'm not wearing a straight brim hat because quite honestly

they look fucking ridiculous. It's true. am I wrong? no you're right okay yeah maybe that's just anyway I want a hat with a flap at the back as well oh sure

for those harsh Australian summers that's it don't want your neck sunburnt where are we going with this? fresh oh a fresher take what does he mean by fresh does he elaborate at all?

that sounds like nonsense yeah well he said look it was like the alien that we got at the end of Prometheus was close to the alien, but he said, but it wasn't. This will be a fresher take. So it'll be another alien. Maybe we'll be even closer.

Oh, yes. So closer. I guess people are looking forward to this. I guess people just, I feel fans of Alien and Aliens. Yeah. There are no fans of Alien 3 more than the last one. There were some good bits in Alien 3

except for the green screen puppet. Okay, fine. I think the fans just want to see that bridge. Like, they want to see that bridge completed. Yeah. They want to say, oh, there we go. There's the alien.

Link's been made. We're done. I don't understand why there's so many similarities between Prometheus and... And Interstellar. and interstellar and alien but that don't tie in like the fact that the world looks so similar to lv whatever it is 426 426 why not just make it a completely different world because that's confusing yeah like i know they're different worlds obviously but like why not do something completely different why have the like all these exact familiar elements but are being completely different place and seemingly irrelevant

the entire thing i just to the alien mythos because that this move that movie doesn't seem to even lead into alien at all if it takes place in a completely different place it doesn't tie in well see this is what prometheus 2 is about is about. Like, this is an arc. This is an arc we're getting. Boy, is it. Prometheus 2 is definitely going to answer all our questions and not be kind of boring and frustrating and nonsensical. And people make excuses for it. Yeah.

Yeah. Looks good, though. Yeah, great. All right. Apparently, Martin Campbell, who directed one of the best James Bond movies, Casino Royale. Yes. Oh, Casino Royale.

Yes. Oh, and Goldeneye. And also Green Lantern. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, that's disappointing. That's the last movie he's actually directed. I'm sure I knew that, but I'm like, oh no. I don't know.

I don't really think that's common knowledge. But anyway, he's, um, he's wanted for G.I. Joe 3, apparently. I thought you were going to say wanted for murder. He is. He's wanted for murdering a franchise. Oh! Oh! Oh! I think they should get him

back for James Bond though. I think he should have done the next James Bond instead of Sam Mendes. I like Skyfall but I don't think they should have waited an extra year

to wait for Sam Mendes to get his shit together. Swap Mendes out. Get someone else in. Martin Campbell. Exactly. But anyway. Whatever.

What do you think of that? G.I. Joe 3? The correct answer is who cares? Yeah, but look, I haven't watched the other two. Yeah.

I actually didn't mind the first one. It's not good, but I didn't mind it. The second one is not really not good, but there's one scene in particular where

there's ninjas fighting on a mountain and they're swinging about and that five minute scene is amazing and it's like it's from a different movie and then it just goes back to whatever and then at the end they're like you did it i've talked about this yeah at the end basically that london gets like melted uh-huh like it gets hit with a laser or something from space and it rises and crashes into the ocean there's nothing left And then at the end all the G.I. Joes get a medal And they're like you did it

I don't know I'm just saying It's not good Well they would have gotten a bigger medal had they saved London But they didn't And look Second prize is still winning Yeah you're right

Great So G.I. Joe 3 How's he gonna Cause I feel Like He's not good prize is still winning yeah you're right yeah great so gi joe three how's he gonna because i feel like he's not good based on the what i've just learned now he is not good he's he's good with like kind of ground level yeah kind of spy stuff sure spy action you know action spaction he'll have he'll have bond drive a bulldozer into a wall or whatever. Or bulldoze himself through a wall.

That's cool. But if you give him anything kind of more stylized, you give him a green lantern, he's going to mess that up, right? Yeah. So what do you think? G.I. Joe's somewhere in the middle? I think it's somewhere in the middle. But definitely G.I. Joe 2, except for the laser and the face changing and a bunch of other

stuff. Is it more realistic? It's more realistic. Okay, right. Not by much. So, because I feel like if he goes to like more realistic action, do you think he's going to disappoint fans of G.I. Joe?

And I've done the air quotes when I say fans. Yeah, sure. Probably. But I think, no, you know what? If anyone's going to fix it, it'll be him. Okay, cool. Or someone like him. All right, I'm on board.

Yeah. But I think they've been trying to kind of revigorate G.I. Joe every time. Yes. Like the first one was kind of like a fun kind of campy kind of thing. Second one was more grounded sort of and not as good. Right. And then this one, I think they're trying to take it in another direction. You know the way that Fast and the Furious didn't find its stride to like the fifth movie?

Right. Okay. This is what's happening here. That's what I think, yeah. They're investing a lot of money in, hey, maybe this will be a good film franchise at some point. Maybe the fifth one will be good. Maybe the fifth one will be good, yeah.

Maybe the fifth one will just be like, G.I. Joe 5, it's the Fast and the Furious now. It's a spin-off. The Rock's in it. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Also, this isn't in the news i didn't write it down but um they're talking about they could probably get another three films out of the

fast and furious so that'd be 10 yeah i guess so that's yeah sure i should watch one of those at some point you should watch five and six i've heard five and six don't watch any other okay good i remember when that came out like the first two i'm like why do people like these these are these aren't good so why are 5 and 6 better they're just ridiculous but in the best way right

yeah well I see in the trailer for 7 they're just they're just grappling hooking trucks and just flipping them and

yeah fighting with tanks and whatever exactly and everybody was dead but now they're all alive again so yeah I understand except for Paul Walker

yeah aww see that's why people are like, should they kill the franchise? Right. But I don't think you necessarily have to. No. Yeah, especially because it makes a lot of money. Yeah.

And they say one day that it'll be the next G.I. Joe eventually. Oh, good. He'll come around. Oh. So, all right. This isn't news, but I put it in. Chris... Oh, which Chris is it going to be, though?

Chris Ebsworth. Chris Ebsworth has been named people magazines sexiest man alive okay good it's it's if you if you've seen the cover it's very 90s if you look at like any of the covers from the 90s with brad pitt or whatever it looks i'll show you a picture please it looks like they have it he's got like 90s hair yeah totally hang on the 90s are back man i hope so hope so. No, no, I don't. Yeah, check this out. Okay, I'm ready.

How 90s is that? Oh, that's so 90s. He does, but I mean, traditionally he's got very 90s hair. Yeah. He's got those little beady bracelets.

Yeah, good, good. He's kind of in a weird soft focus. Yeah. Who's he beating out there? He's beating out Idris Elba. Idris Elba and Chris Pratt. It says plus 208 soft focus. Yeah. Who's he beating out there? He's beating out Idris Elba. Idris Elba and Chris Pratt. It says plus 208 gorgeous guys.

Couldn't have just gone with 200. You don't believe their credibility if they just went with 200. It's odd though. Isn't it how nice that is? Yeah. And also it's odd that magazines... Still exist. Yeah, it's weird, right?

Anyway, that's the news for this week. How did we pad that out more than the news last week I was in the casino yesterday for reasons I don't want to get into

so was I what time did we cross paths no were we both doing a heist were we doing different heists

what were you doing no I was seeing a movie I was seeing the thing we were talking about yeah and I went to

there was like a concession stand and it was like it had a big marquee and it was like snacks and drinks and magazines I saw that there's no magazine there's no magazine and it says books as well yeah there's no we're in the same place yeah what that's crazy yeah though i was there in like three in the morning i heisted a whole bunch of books and magazines that's okay that's why yeah yeah yeah well there you go we padded out that news boy did we what

what is happening do we run out of did this happen last year did padded out that news. Boy, did we. What is happening? Did we run out of... Did this happen last year? Did we run out of news towards the end of the year? I think... Well, I know TV shows stop and everything and things kind of slow down about now. But I think there's going to be some sweet trailers going to drop. I'm ready. Jurassic Park and stuff's happening this week.

So that's good. Jurassic World, sorry. Chris Pratt. I think he made the top 208. Good for him. I know, right? Hang on. Was there a separate ranking for buff Chris Pratt and fat Chris Pratt?

I hope so. Because one's got a certain charm. Certainly. Yeah, yeah. I read a comment about Chris Pratt under the Cowboy Ninja Viking thing that was like, I hope this doesn't oversaturate him because I really want Chris Pratt to succeed. And a whole lot of people were like, yeah, me too. I agree.

Whatever. I think people are 100% behind Chris Pratt just for everything. Do you feel like that? Yeah, definitely. Yeah. He just seems like a nice guy. He'd have to put a foot really wrong. Yeah.

He'd have to Sean Connery it. Oh. All right. I just want to say before we get into it, thank you to the people who've been Patreoning. Absolutely. It's been really awesome. We're going to do a list. Yeah, we are, but we haven't worked out how to get the order properly. Because we're technologically literate.

Yeah, it's really weird how much so. It's weird that we could somehow activate a Patreon, but not read a list of donations. Not thank people. Yeah. But basically, we really appreciate it. It keeps the show going, gives us a little bit of extra coin, allows us to do more of this, basically. Which is great.

There's also a second video up at the moment. You know, we did the Justice League Task Force one. No. We did. Yeah, we did. Just take my word for it. Okay, good. It's on my regular YouTube channel now, but there's a part two,

which I think is about seven or eight minutes, which is our showdown to see who's the best at Justice League Task Force. The answer might surprise you. It won't. No. So, yeah. task force the answer might surprise you it won't so yeah in justice league task force news i in in attempting to because we played it for this for this game from the 90s yes uh in order to get the taste out of my mouth i went to the my local block my local eb and i bought injustice god's the modern day take on that and i went to put it in and my tv stopped working immediately so i guess that's punishment did it even switch on that and I went to put it in and my TV stopped working immediately So I guess that's punishment. Did it even switch on?

Yeah, and then immediately off again and then immediately back on and then immediately back off again So tomorrow I'm gonna have to buy a new TV and then I'll let you know how it goes. Just get a Vita man Nobody's buying a PlayStation Vita Alright up CJ Sharp actually wrote in, though, and he suggested last year... I was going to say, actually, people aren't going to buy it. Have you seen the new Vita ad? Oh, yeah. Oh, wait, hang on.

Patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies. Thanks to everyone who donated and will continue to donate. Yeah, any amount is fine. All of you are the best. Yes, correct. It's a weird ad. You can play on both sides of the Vita. There's a weird ad. I think it's from like can you you can play on both sides the back yeah

there's like a weird ad I think it's from PlayStation Europe or whatever and it's just like a disembodied woman's torso with boobs on both sides and it's like you can enjoy this on

both sides or whatever what? it's super creepy it's so creepy it might be fake but I don't think it is I think it's just weird and European

anyway disembodied what do you mean by that? like it's got no head okay yeah I just wanted to yeah legs legs no just a torso yeah like a pillow with boobs on both sides yeah can you get them maybe maybe in europe sure great that back thing is ridiculous as well anyway sorry it's got all sorts of tilt functionality and stuff which i really really don't like. CJ Sharp suggested last year we did a Hunger Games

slash Doctor Who episode. That famous combination. Two great tastes that taste great together. There's not a lot of crossover. Actually, there probably is a lot of crossover there. Fans-wise? Yeah, definitely. Or story-wise?

Not so much story. I think fans-wise, definitely. So that will make this as well the Doctor Who mid-season finale has wrapped up so we're going to

talk Hunger Games and Doctor Who but like I said last year we'll do Hunger Games first because it's more popular and infinitely better

no I don't believe that I don't believe that to be true but I think that's the order we did last year so I guess we'll

make this an annual thing okay great will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care I think that's the order we did last year. So I guess we'll make this an annual thing. Okay, great. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the sunrise challenge to raise funds for CAMH, the center for addiction and mental health to support life-saving progress in mental health care. From May 27th to 31st,

people across Canada will rise together and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. All right, Hunger Games. Now it's expected to make 128 million this weekend. Hunger Games, what is it called? The last one. Mockingjay part one. Yes.

The second last one. What is it? They reckon it's going to make 128 million in the US, which is 22% below last year's and 17% below the first one. Running out of juice, this one. I don't know if it is. I just think there's not the urgency behind to see this one because it's the first part

of the second part the last part the third one yeah I understand yeah it's it's not the finale

no it certainly isn't so given that I don't know anything about the Hunger Games books yes is the third one really long

you should have gone to that stand that books magazine Yeah right No it's not It's not They're all If anything Actually

No it's not behind you No it is Top shelf There's the three of them up there Fantastic Do you see them They're all about the same They're about the same

Yeah okay I don't have a lot of books I don't know why I have them Have you read them I have read them Yeah yeah But also But look It's next to Red D warf so i've got some cred right yeah you've got the women's

and the woman's weekly children birthday cake magazine that's really good that is a high quality book it's got the train cake in it doesn't it yeah yeah the duck cake it's got the robot cake correct all the good ones anyway it's not so it's not the longest book no so this rather than breaking it up because it's unlike the harry potter the last harry potter was the longest one right no it wasn't the longest but it was massive right and so they've just done this because it's the trend yeah you split it up to make the maximum amount of coin off this i feel the harry potter books not that i didn't enjoy this. I enjoyed it. But I think the Harry Potter books did it much better. I think

there are two very distinct kind of stories in the Harry Potter book. Right. Have you read it? It might be behind you. Ah! No, I don't think it is.

But, um... And I think that worked. Books of a nerd! I'm scared. And I think that worked. So... But I don't think this worked as well. Hmm.

Do you think it was spread out a little thin? Yeah. Not, that being said, well, oh, by the way, we'll do spoilers, no spoilers. Okay. So no spoilers first. Right. Now let's, let's, let's mix up the medicine. Sure.

Let's do spoilers first. And then, no, that's okay. Yeah. Um, what was I going to say? I can't remember. Length of the film. Yeah. I wasn't bored by it. Yeah. Even though it felt padded at one point, I can't remember. Length of the films. Yeah, I wasn't bored by it.

Yeah. Even though it felt padded at one point, or a few points. I felt it was quite, I think it was quite a lot of tension. Yeah, absolutely. It was pretty much all slow build, I would say. Yes, uh-huh.

And there was like a smallish kind of finale, I was going to say. Yeah, but it's all political, basically, isn't it? It's political and it's PR. Yeah, exactly. Which every war kind of has to have now. Yeah. It reminded me of kind of the propaganda-y kind of World War II kind of stuff that was going on both sides.

And the stuff that's going on now. Sure. With every side. Fox Newsers? I'm just going to look that up because I'm interested to know. Because it's kind of got a good lesson for perhaps young people who read the books and watch this movie, which is kind of question what your government is telling you. Yeah. And kind of question, you know, all the propaganda that's shoved at you.

Sure. And I'm interested to know who has produced this film. Okay. Like, is it a big... Lion's Gate. Obviously, it's a huge... It's Lion's Gate. Lion's Gate.

Obviously, it's a huge... No, it is Lion's Gate. Obviously, it's a huge it's lions gate obviously it's a huge you know no it is lions gate obviously it's a huge corporation but i'm but all these all these young adult novels and movies are about that even the ones i haven't seen which is most of them like the maze runners like not everything's as it seems the giver which is a fantastic book and apparently a real shitty movie is that as well okay it's basically a guy read the if you haven't seen Giver, read the book. But it's interesting that a very large corporation

is saying don't trust very large organisations. I think that's interesting. Sure. But I guess they're like... I guess it's kind of like in this particular scenario, don't trust large

government organisations in a dystopian future. But you can trust us we're fine sprite also you love hunger games and we're making them for you so correct yeah well that's yeah i don't know i mean how much are you going to change that really because the third book is pretty much that okay right it's and it's not i don't think it's a great book i've said that before it's fine right but i think the general consensus is that it's the first one is the best and the second two not as garbage. Garbage.

No, I wouldn't say garbage, but they're fine. They're completely fine. But I think the movies actually do it better. I think the second... No, sorry. I think the first book is better than the first movie, but the second movie is better than the book. Okay. And by all accounts, I think this set of movies is going to be better than the book.

Good. But I think that's got a lot to do with the people in it as well. Because even though it's not the fastest paced movie it's it's so well cast yep that everybody you know yeah yeah it's it's great philip seymour hoffman yeah once again yeah it's lion's gate it's fine okay but i'm just gonna say like if it was released through like fox or something i'll be i'd be like that's interesting yeah yeah but um apparently with the philip seymour hoffman scenes yeah he'd finished most of them and the ones that he did he the film the scenes that he

couldn't do i was a couple they just gave his lines to someone else so none of that is cgi or anything okay that's all that's all him yeah god he's good isn't he he's good he's quite flippant like yeah that character yeah i thought i felt there were some scenes where they're trying to build her... They're trying to build Katniss as this propaganda tool. Yeah. Like, especially early on. Yeah. Where they seem kind of...

Is it intended to be ridiculous and kind of... Yeah, it is. Like, they're... Is it played for laughs, though? Or is it just kind of... In the book, probably not as much. You know what? A credit to Jennifer Lawrence,

the character of Katniss is much more likeable in the movies than she is in the book okay right i'd wonder about that yeah um she she is very kind of she doesn't like the pr stuff and the limelight and whatever and she's kind of aware that she's being used right but i think that jennifer lawrence kind of does that does that really she's good in this she is very good you know what that just goes to show what a great choice of casting in the first place. Yeah. And that's the same, like, it's, because, like, I feel like with the Twilight movies, which I've only seen the first one, Great Muppet Run, I've talked about it.

Yes. I think there was probably a miscast with Kristen Stewart, because she's not very likable in that movie or in real life. Sure. By all accounts. I don't really know anything about her. But Jennifer Lawrence's book, you know, seems to be everybody's important. I think she pulls off a lot of lines in this that maybe...

We couldn't. We couldn't, certainly. That, you know, a lesser actor, people would laugh in the cinema. Yeah. Like, there's a lot of... There's some emoting where... Yeah. Somebody else would maybe be like...

That doesn't... You're talking about that particular first... Not the first bit of propaganda. The first one they get that's good, where they're filming her. You're talking about that scene in particular? would say so yeah same yeah because that that very nearly goes over you know what i mean like yeah and that even in the book reading that is very kind of like this is pretty heavy-handed uh-huh but she sells that yeah definitely um i was gonna say julianne Moore Yes good Good choice Yes

Great wig Good wig Yeah Could have gotten Could have gotten a Could have gotten a What's the other one Glenn Close

Oh yeah sure Yeah A Streep or a Close Yeah You're right But she was good yeah She was I don't know

She feels kind of like A placeholder character I'm not invested I'm not super invested in that character I think she has an arc a little bit like at the end

the way she presents herself to the crowd changes at the end do you notice that when she gives the speech and I think that will come that will definitely come more into play

in the second book but I like seeing the differences between her and Snow who's the president of all the bad guys or whatever but I think

that's an interesting kind of... They're not essentially the same person, but they've got a lot of similarities. And I just find that really interesting, the way that they play that. Sutherland as Snow. Yes. He's chewing a lot of scenery. Isn't he? I don't...

I feel like he's getting better. At chewing scenery? Yeah. Like, in the first one, he looks kind of dazed and he's not really in it that much Right, okay His heart doesn't seem to be But I feel with this one I find him

He's very menacing Like when they're having that conversation Yeah I know he's chewing You didn't buy it? If With this kind of movie You know, he's a guy

He wants to Like if he's a guy who's trying to maintain order in this world... Yeah, he's not that smart. Well, he's not that smart, but also... He's very, like, cruel and almost cartoony as a villain. Like, maybe he's been directed that way. But kind of... Like...

I don't necessarily buy... Like, he's a guy who's trying to keep this world together. I'd feel better about that character if he was more serious about if he was more like believed in his cause like he's like these rebels are ruining

everything I've got to stop it and maintain order in this world but he's more like I'm just going to kill these guys because it's fun to be it's fun to be mean yeah you're right but I think a lot of that's the book as well I think as well but yeah no you're right I would agree with that

yeah he's good in MASH the movie okay good that's a good movie I had another Donald Sutherland thought but I can't remember what it is Great Beard

Great Beard yeah did you like seeing all the old characters come back like your Phoenix oh that's what I was going to say yeah look

it's been a long time between drinks for this i haven't really thought about the hunger games in a year yeah it's there's not a lot you don't get a lot of context right at the start of the film no if you've just come into this blind you would have no idea what's going on yeah not literally blind that would be weird but that that would also apply though yeah definitely yeah but if you if you can't like I had a hard time piecing together some of these characters yeah yeah

and their relationship I mean I remember Katniss and Hemsworth and Peter I remember their kind of thing but a lot of the other characters I'm like how do they relate to who's the guy

who's the guy exactly yeah yeah absolutely that's fair enough yeah yeah I think but this is not a movie for casual no

this is for fans this is for fans of The Hunger Games yeah yeah so you've been is not this is not a movie for casual no this is for fans this is for fans of The Hunger Games you've been hanging out for this for a year I would say so yeah sure

I mean people like us not as much I enjoy them but I don't I don't really care but yeah I mean after I would say 15 minutes and I've pieced it back together

yeah yeah sure I think there's even that opening scene where she's sitting there and she's muttering to herself and she says her name and kind of what she's been doing and she's muttering to herself and she says her name. Yes. And kind of what she's been doing.

Uh-huh, yeah. That happens in like the first ten seconds. That was simultaneously too much context and not enough context. Yeah. Because you don't really understand what she's doing there. No. You get her name. Yeah.

Weird. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really have anything else to say about it that is not spoilers. That is not spoilers, yeah. There's only say about it that is not spoilers. There's only a few things that kind of spoil. But I guess if you are going to go out and see it, maybe skip forward a bit here. But I'd say, though, if you're a fan of it, you're obviously going to see it or you have seen it.

If you're a casual kind of fan, I would say you could wait until you could download this or watch it back to back with the next one. Right. You could just wait a year and watch it back to back. Actually, how did you feel? From what was there, it was fine. There's not a lot of it. This has gone in a different direction. Absolutely, yeah.

The next one's going to be like balls to the wall, though. Are you sure? Absolutely. Because of the book you've read. Yeah, yeah. Okay, right. Because this is kind of... If you like the first two because they were kind of battle royale kind of...

Yeah. These survival horror kind of films.ale kind of yeah these survival horror kind of films this is not that film no it's not so if you're only on board because you're like

I like seeing young people kill each other in some sort of island environment where they're being chased by like robot mutant dogs or whatever and poison flowers

if you like seeing if you like fog that kills you yeah if you like young people being torn apart by animals and environmental factors and axes or whatever then you'll you might like this one because that is not what happens no no it's really not i've actually got something i want to write later which will tie into that okay good quite interesting but yeah i guess writing before we spoiler it i don't know

i think you're right if you're not yeah look it's it's just just... It's all prequel, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It's all precursor to the last one. Yeah. I feel they definitely... When is the next one coming out? Same time next year. Oh, really?

Yeah. This is very much a placeholder. Like, if they released the next one... Hang on. In three months' time... Yeah. I think this would be an excellent precursor to that. Okay, sure.

I can't, like... I can't recommend this one just as a standalone movie. No, definitely not. I think the performance is good. I think some of the action is pretty good. There's some tense scenes. 20th of November, 2015. Wow. Yeah.

You know, that's, it's, no. You're going to be confused going into that. Yeah, I really am. What's that thing she's got, the big wooden stick with the string on it? You know what? She's holding that little metal thing the whole time. Yeah, I didn't know what that was. I didn't know what that is either.

I'm going to have to look that up. Nobody email in. I'll figure it out. Actually, yeah. One person email in. Just one. Just the one. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. They get a prize. Yes. Talk amongst yourselves. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sort of conflicted because I think the reaction, what there was, was good.

I liked everybody involved. Yeah. Nothing really happens. It looks... I feel like they look more expensive every time as well. Even though there wasn't a lot of big action set pieces in that. It feels more kind of... Like the first one doesn't feel...

It feels very kind of TV movie in parts. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. The second one, not as much, but I think even more so this one kind of less CGI-ness and stuff. But I guess that's also to do with the environment that they're in. It's mostly set in a bunker.

Yeah, true. So. I'm going to say best movie ever because that, you know, that surfer dude guy in it, you know, that guy, he stopped wearing like his pucker shell necklaces or whatever sure and he stopped opening his shirt all the way down to his belly button well he didn't say best he didn't get people magazine yeah so he just went why am i bothering yeah all right i'm gonna say best movie yeah i'm gonna say but don't you can wait for the reason for the reasons i said in my youtube review if you've seen that yeah you don't need to rush out and see it. It's good.

But again, like you said, no context. If you've got no context for it or you don't care, just wait until the other next one comes out and then kind of do a marathon maybe. Totally, yeah. Yeah. All right. Spoil it up. Okay.

I'll spoil that thing I said before. Katniss shoots one arrow in this whole movie. Yes. Right? To shoot down a plane. Wait, no, she fires... Oh, no, you're right. Somebody fires a crossbow on movie. Yes. Right? To shoot down a plane? Wait, no, she fires... Oh, no, you're right. Somebody fires a crossbow on that.

Yeah. And then she's about to fire an arrow and he's like, maybe don't. Don't fire the arrow inside the bunker. Why would you want to do anything that the audience wants you to do? Yeah, I thought maybe

that you'd get like a training montage kind of thing. Yeah, no training montage. Which you get in the other Hunger Games movies. So I thought maybe there'd be a bit of that but she's been trained enough she knows what's going on

yeah I still don't like the weapon of choice being a bow and arrow I mean I know it's the world that they live in but everybody should have guns

everybody should have guns also there's very little point putting yellow and red tabs on the specialty arrows because you can't see them

they're behind your back Hawkeye's got that cool clicking thing yeah he's got a clicky thing he's probably got a monitor thing on his bow yeah figure that out yeah yeah that's what he's doing yeah yeah he's got he's got there's what's going on yeah he does um so yeah that maybe they have different textures red one feels dangerous does yeah but so i think like you said, if you're looking for action, this, no, it's not here. And there's a lot of, there's a lot of tell don't show, especially that sequence where they're hunkering down in the bunker. Yeah.

They're doing a bunker hunker. There's, there's a lot of them looking at a monitor going, we're being attacked by these bombers. Yeah. We're firing back with surface-to-air missiles. Don't say any of that. Don't see any of that. Don't see any of it. But I think that's probably a conscious decision to add to the claustrophobia of it.

Yeah. Didn't like it. You want to see them bombs? I want to see them. Exactly. But I mean, again, it did feel... There's that moment where they're all in the bunker. Yeah.

And it's being hit by bombs or whatever. And it's shaking and the lights keep flicking on and off. Like that felt... That felt... For a kid's movie movie that felt very much like he's he's kind of the the uncertainty of war and here's this yeah like it feels it feels claustrophobic and it feels terrifying this kind of thing but again i would like to see some bombs see some bombs yeah yeah well even when they flew into like the capital at the end yep you don't see that city it's all dark yeah true and even when they fly it when, like, the capital at the end, you don't see that city. It's all dark. Yeah, true.

And even when they fly it, when all the power comes back on, you don't see that at all. You don't see that. At all. You don't even see them leave the building. No. And I guess, you know, obviously, that's because they were intended to leave. Yeah.

And, you know, they've programmed one guy. Yeah. See, that's another case of Sutherland just being a mean guy for no reason. Yeah. And that's the case of the book, I assume. It is, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, basically And that's the case of the book, I assume. It is, yeah. Oh, yeah.

So there's basically a big kind of twist at the end. Again, we are spoiling this. Where Peter has been brainwashed. Oh, P-E-E-T-A. Double E. Yes. P-E-E-T-A. Brainwashed so that by using torture and tracker jack of venom,

which is from the previous movies, where he sees Katniss as the enemy and he tries to like choke her that was like I knew that was coming and that was still pretty that was pretty intense intense yeah good work there yeah yeah

did you notice they kind of look like they CGI thinned him up a bit I did not notice that they look like that I think they did oh I see like he'd been starved

or whatever yeah right okay because he kind of gets thinner as well when you see him in the videos what it's supposed to be that first interview they show,

I think they shot that right after he comes out of the Hunger Games. This is in the book. Right. And then they show him like a week later. But it's clearly from more recently because he looks terrible. Right, right, right.

And so that's... Do you think they didn't... So you think they CGI thinned him? Yeah, absolutely. Do you think they thinned him? No, I don't think they thinned him. Yeah. Okay.

Are you saying that because you're like, this guy, if he stops working out, he becomes a fat guy? Is that what you're saying? No, I just don't think it's a big enough role. I don't think that this is the kind of movie where people do that. It's not Christian Bale.

It's not Christian Bale. It's not. Matt Damon did it once for a war movie, which I can't remember the name of. And he got very sick from that. I heard about that, yeah. And he still is sick from it. Right, right.

I guess this takes some sort of medication forever. Yeah, yeah. So I just don't think it's worth it. Probably CGI then. Yeah. But that bit where he just goes for it. They probably just put blue panels down the sides of the body. Like green panels.

They green screen it out. And on his cheekbones. Yep. Yeah. But when he just goes for her. And when he's... And like... And he just slams her.

Yeah. Like he throws aside like two guys. He's got that crazy man strength. And when he's got her around the neck and you see her eyes like get bloody and clouded. Like that's intense. That's some good strangling. Reminded me of some Game of Thrones shit. Oh yeah.

Nice. And then when she comes out of it, she's got the neck brace on and her eyes are still bloodshot. They're bloody for the rest of the film. She looks terrible. Yeah, yeah. And that's great. But in the book, she gets banged up a lot.

Okay, right. I think she's got scars and stuff. They heal most of it, but yeah, she has a lot of injuries. Huh. I think she's got like a fake ear or something as well. Oh, yeah. Or an electronic eardrum or something.

I can't remember. Okay, right, yeah. They fix it up or something. Yeah, yeah, nice. Cool. I don't really have anything else to say. I can't remember. Okay, right, yeah. They fix it up or something. Yeah, yeah, nice. Cool. And I don't really have anything else to say about it. I thought that the action sequence

prior to them escaping the escaping from that building that we don't see, I thought that was very tense as well. Okay, sure. Yeah, it was. Good work.

Yeah, yeah. You know what else was, I found that was a lot going on because I'm trying to listen to the President Snow story about how he's got the blood in his mouth and whatever while I'm trying to keep track

of this action sequence and it's cutting back between that and cat and it's trying to reach out to president snow yeah and it's like all these things happening at once and i just wanted to hear the president snow story that was very effective it was yeah but i just wanted to hear the snow i'm like can you i want to hear that first then let's right okay right yeah uh-huh i guess it highlights how dangerous he is yeah and, and I thought that was very tension building. Because before he goes on to tell this story, the director's like, okay, get going. Don't stop talking.

Yeah. I lived in constant fear for that five minutes that he'd just run out of stories. Like, anyone want to hear a joke? But you know what else I find odd? Why they appear to live broadcast a lot of these things. When they can clearly be like... And then when they're live broadcasting Peter,

and then Katniss interferes or whatever. And he can see that for some reason? Yeah. Like they've got a monitor? Why wouldn't they pre-record? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So that was quite odd. Maybe he just had like an audio bug in his ear some reason. Yeah. Like they've got a monitor. Why wouldn't they pre-record? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So that was quite odd.

Maybe he just had like an audio bug in his ear or whatever. Sure. You know. Ear pierced. Ear pierced. Ear pierced. His ears were pierced. Correct.

So yeah. That's great. Yeah. So all in all, we enjoyed it. I guess so. Enough. Okay. I've actually got something special, Mason.

Oh. Something special. It's from- Is it Jennifer Lawrence? She's great. It's from our hi J-Law it's from our

the most popular newspaper in Melbourne the Herald Sun which is not a good newspaper it's garbage also why are newspapers still around? also why are you reading it?

well you know they're at work and whatever but anyway you work at the Herald Sun I do there's plenty sitting around

I came across this there was a whole in the letters to the editor oh yes there's about 15 or so letters Herald Sun. I do. There's plenty sitting around. I came across this. There was a whole... In the letters to the editor, there's about 15 or so letters about the Hunger Games. I thought I'd read a few. Because why would there be letters about any other issues in the world? Exactly.

I'm surprised this was a front page. But basically, the hot topic is, can kids stomach the new Hunger Games movie? The jury is out at Herald Sun. Okay, so here's one of them. It's a movie about people being locked in a cage and the last one standing wins. Couple that with an oppressive government

and a civil uprising, how would this be a kids movie anyways? So that's not what this is about. So that's ill-informed, for one. Way to not see the current one. Just throw out your opinion there. Do you think these are suitable for kids? Yeah.

I think they're fine. How young? I don't know, like 10? Yeah. I would have watched this when I was 10. Yeah. It's fine, right? It's fine, yeah.

Anyway, this one. Once you see something... This is from Angie. Once you see something, you can never unsee it. We need to desperately protect our children. That's a good point. Because why would you want to explain anything to your children you know

exactly this one all caps HELLO! exclamation mark great if you read the book maybe you would be surprised they made the movie it's about kids killing kids and yes there will be scenes that are shocking

these are all great this is from Frag what's the difference he's on board with the hunger games oh good so but his reasoning is fucking off okay i'm ready what's the difference between that and game and game of thrones now you haven't seen game of thrones but i'm assuming a lot of things no kid should ever watch game of thrones i'm sure plenty of kids have read watched those probably not the books aren't that great. Yeah, I said it.

Ooh. Besides, we used to watch horror movies when we were young with plenty of blood and gore. So there is a lot of differences between those things. Yes. You can't just, they both have violence. Because Hunger Games, a lot of the violence is off screen. Yeah. A lot of them, there's not a lot of blood or anything. Like people get hit with machetes, but you don't see it.

Yes, exactly. Yeah. This is the last one from John.'s not a lot of blood or anything. Like, people get hit with machetes, but you don't see it. Yes, exactly, yeah. This is the last one from John. He says, Game of Thrones is violent. I don't know why people are making this comparison. Yeah, why are they? There's no competition, there's no comparison at all. I don't understand. Game of Thrones is violent, but it's a fairy tale of sorts

and looks historical enough, even though it's fiction. This Hunger Games thing is off. Really off. There's a lot of rape in Game of Thrones yeah and incest yes yeah

what is this guy this it's a fairy tale that looks like it's old timey so it's fine yeah yeah that's a good point that's a really good point

because things that happen in the past are fine all things that happen in the past are fine it's fine also I mean anything that might happen in the future is bad so don't let your kids watch something things that happen in the past are fine. It's fine. Also, I mean... Anything that might happen in the future

is bad. So don't let your kids watch something that might happen in the future. That's it. Just tell your kids that everything in

the future is going to be fine. That's right. So those are pretty amazing. I'm glad they exist. Wow, can we do a letters from

the Herald Sun every week? If there's actually... My brother follows it. Wait, which brother? The one that you like. Okay, good. It's called Herald Sun Halfwits on Twitter. my brother follows it he shows himself wait which brother the one that you like okay good

it's called Herald Sun Halfwits on Twitter you probably follow it and it's basically people write in and say dumb things and they post to it

so if you follow them on Twitter you get some pretty funny stuff alright well if we can find some pop cultural ones I'd like to hear what the Herald Sun readers

think every week about the stuff that we like absolutely on to Doctor Who though oh yes it's been a big the stuff that we like. Absolutely. On to Doctor Who, though. Oh, yes. It's been a big season for Doctor Who, Mason. Okay.

There's been a new Doctor Who. Correct. He's even more Whovian than before. He is. Now, you've watched every episode of Doctor Who. I have watched the first episode of this season. Yes. And the last episode of this season.

That's okay, though. Yeah. I think you would have... Have I missed anything? There's some good episodes in between. Okay, great. But you could do that. Because you generally do that though, don't you?

Yeah. When there's a new doctor or whatever. I'll watch the first couple. First one or two. Yeah. Maybe watch the first... No, I think I just watched the first one. And then you bail.

Then I bail. Yeah. And then I see how the finale winds up. And I have a lot of questions. Yes. For you. I have a lot of logical threads that are still hanging, and I'm wondering how you can explain them logically.

Can we just sort of spoiler this or whatever? Because it's out. Yeah, it's an hour investment. I feel you can see it in your house. Download it for nothing. It's free on whatever, BBC iPlayer or iView or whatever. Yeah, exactly. I got about five in, and then I stopped.

Oh, yes. Not through the kind of lack of interest, but I'm. I got about five in and then I stopped. Oh, yes. Not through the kind of lack of interest, but it wasn't... I'm not a bigger fan of Doctor Who as I used to be. And that's nothing to do with the new Doctor Who because I think he's pretty good. He's a pretty great Doctor Who. But what was I going to say?

But I watched... I got five out. I watched five yesterday. How has his personality evolved? It's better. In the first one, I was like, I don't really understand what this guy is about he's a bit dithery yeah what is he now he's how did he

they they kind of build the fact that he's kind of supposed to be a meaner doctor who than the other doctor who's and i would argue that well though he's he's more flippant about death if someone dies it's like whatever they're dead let's move on but doctor who i know he's not called doctor who just so people want to make that clear that's what we call it um he kills a lot of people and the only difference is that this guy doesn't dwell on it right okay he just kind of moves on oh that that's what i think the difference is okay like i think he pretends to care less than the others but he still cares quite a bit i see right so that's what i think the difference is i don't think he's particularly mean i think he's short with people right but that's about it do you think all these doctors essentially have the same personality

yeah probably deep down right yeah well i guess yeah because they do i mean i guess that's point is like at the core he's a good guy. Yeah. But I feel like the past Doctor Who's had much more divergent personalities. Okay. These guys are just kind of... Yeah, because Matt Smith

is very kind of tenant. They're very similar. Would you agree with that? I like all these in the last three or four that I've been. Yeah, they're all fine. I like the guy with the salary.

Oh yeah, five. Five, I don't know. I don't watch any of the old stuff. But, yeah, there was definitely less kind of wackiness this season. Okay. Still some wackiness. There's Robot of Sherwood, which is like a Robin Hood episode. Yep.

Uh-huh. I heard that was quite good. Yeah. Uh-huh. But generally, I'd say it's a slightly darker tone than the other ones. Uh-huh. How was the big bad arc this season? It was okay.

I think it was interesting, but spoiler alert, it turns out that the Master is returned as a woman, which I want to talk about later. But yeah, I think it was interesting in the way that they did that and how they were storing... Basically, when everybody died, they get put into a hard drive and then they can exist there, but then they can exist there but then they're still tight i like the idea as well you might not have seen this because in the second last episode they're they're might they're in the hard drive they're still tied to their bodies right so they feel everything their old body feels uh-huh so if you get so if you throw it

in a wood chipper for example exactly yeah like if you get cremated You You feel the burn Yeah Apparently The one thing The three words That They kind of Discover Is echoing through Time and space Or whatever

Dead people yelling Not the face Not the face Because they don't cremate me Huh So that That's pretty interesting There you go

Yeah Yeah there's some good episodes One called Time Heist Where they pull off a heist I love heists In the best bank of all time. What did you tell me about that? I love heists.

There's also another, which I'd recommend that one. There's another one called Into the Dalek, where they have to do a heist. Oh, yes. Yes. Sort of. They get shrunk down and they go inside a Dalek and they go through it, which is pretty great. Okay.

And there's another one which people love, but I don't love as much. It's called Kill the Moon. Oh, yes. it which is pretty great okay and there's another one which people love but i don't love as much it's called kill the moon oh yes and basically at the end the moon the moon is breaking apart and at the end it's works out that there's just a big bug in the moon is this the present day or is this yes okay oh maybe slightly in a few no it's slightly in the future yeah and then at the end the moon cracks and a big bug comes out which i thought so these are fun yeah they are these are all fun ideas yeah this is my problem with doctor who generally they all they're all fun ideas yeah but they're often let down in the execution yes and or the finale the way it wraps up yeah or the finale or it's mostly just characters running around saying how good doctor who is you know

there's a lot of that how the secondary characters in this season? I think Clara's a good companion. I think that was a good choice to cast her. And there's actually a guy called Danny Pink who you see in the last episode as well. The boyfriend. The boyfriend. I think he's really good.

Okay. I'd like to see more of him. Can you explain to me... If we can. Here's one of my questions that I have about Doctor Who. Okay, so... Why don't I become the guy that defends Doctor Who on this show? So in the finale of Doctor

Who, right? Everybody's been turned into, everybody who's died has been turned into a Cyberman, right? Correct. And he's been killed. Yes. Clearly. Yes. And he comes back as a Cyberman. But he is not under the control of the Master. Yes. Because of love. Because well, yeah, exactly. And also, the control of the master because of love because well yeah exactly

and also the father of the current head of unit yeah also is not under the control of the master because of love

because of love yes right why is that see that's the thing and I that's why are these the only

characters in the world that are defined enough because of the power of love why aren't there millions of other people out there who are like I love my kids

I'm not going to kill them or whatever right well that's a really good point and that's my kind of problem with a lot of Doctor Who is a lot of the power of love. Why aren't there millions of other people out there who are like, I love my kids, I'm not going to kill them or whatever. Well, that's a really good point. And that's my kind of problem with a lot of Doctor Who is, a lot of the time the answer to the problem is, you can't pin down humanity. Humanity is amazing and this is why you'll never succeed or whatever. A lot of the time, that's the ending. Yeah. And I don't like that.

No. Because quite frankly, humanity is pretty shitty. A lot of the time, yeah. Exactly, yeah. I don't buy into that. And it's weird that the Master has had thousands of years to subjugate humanity or whatever. And this time he, she is like, look, I'll create Cybermen and they'll take over the universe. But she hasn't factored in love.

Yeah. Like, you know, people got a lot of love you think she'd be like oh yeah that thing that they've had for thousands of years yeah it's always stopped me yeah i'll put in a i'll put in a tweak the program a little bit and switch that off yeah exactly i mean there was a bit i think it might have been the second last episode where danny could have deleted his emotions yeah okay and he chose not to I don't know if they, but then they do switch it off. Yes. And he's exactly the same.

He is. Yeah. So love. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Go on. I was going to say,

so there's a, there's also a supporting character who was on the, the unit version of Air Force One or whatever it is. The girl with the glasses. The girl who is, who's Matt, the Matt Smith girl. Yeah.

Who's clearly a big Doctor Who fan. Yeah. She's vaporized. Yes. Was she an an ongoing popular character she was in it a bit i can't remember which part because i've watched this series like really sporadically so i don't i don't know exactly but she said the bow ties a cool thing and she sure did whatever so that's pretty good isn't it yeah yeah but what else i thought was really strange the master's plan was to wait thousands of years and gather up everybody who's ever died's mind and put it in a hard drive.

Yep. Then put them all into Cybermen. Yep. And then raise the dead and then hand the army to Doctor Who. Yeah. Thinking that he would then conquer the world. Correct. Like that, come on.

Yeah, come on, mate. When is that- Not in the universe, even. Yeah. When has that ever been his kind of it's never been that yeah like yeah i guess the the explanation is women are crazy which is kind of stephen moffat's kind of like women are crazy they don't know what's going on you know yeah that's often a complaint about doctor Who is the women just be crazy.

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Like the girl in the fireplace. That's probably a good example of that not being the case.

Okay. Right. Maybe it is. Well, she does spend her life fighting after. Maybe I'm being unfair insofar as I don't watch any Doctor Who. But based on what I've seen. But you know what though? There is a lot to like about the show still. Right. And I enjoy it. I just don't watch it as kind of religiously as I've seen. But you know what, though? There is a lot to like about the show still.

Right. And I enjoy it. I just don't watch it as kind of religiously as I used to. And I liked the bit at the end how they kind of lied to each other. Right, yeah, yeah. She said that he was alive. And I like the choice that Danny made to send that boy back or whatever. Right, instead of himself.

And how Doctor Who was lying and said that Gallifrey had returned. Right, yeah, yeah. Which was also interesting. I liked that, though, that she lied to him at the last minute. Yeah, okay of himself. And how Doctor Who was lying and said that Gallifrey was returned. Right, yeah, yeah. Which was also interesting. I liked that, though, that she lied to him at the last minute. Yeah, okay, yeah. She's like, these are the coordinates, go and check it out. I'm not lying to you. And then she just turned that she had lied to him.

Yeah, yeah. So I thought that was really interesting. But why... It's interesting that they took so long to bring her back and then just kind of killed her at the end. Unless she was teleported or something, but... Yeah. She'll be back though.

No, no doubt. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. I don't think anybody believes that the Master is dead anymore. Ever gone forever. Yeah, exactly. Like nobody believes the Daleks are ever gone forever.

Like nobody believes the Cybermen are gone forever. But whenever the Cybermen or the Daleks turn up, I just go, ugh. Again. Yeah. It's like a hug from a friend. You're just like, ugh. Ugh. Yeah, no. It's like a hug from a friend. You're just like, ugh. Ugh. Yeah, no, you're right.

And they do do some interesting stuff. Like that Inside the Dalek stuff was really interesting. I think they just move the re... Like every season, it seems, they just move the reintroduction of the Daleks to a different episode. Yes. In an attempt to surprise people. Yeah. Like when it was...

What's his face? Baldy. The first one. Christopher Eccleston. I don't think he's bald. He's not really bald. He had the shaved head. Anyway, like that was like episode six or whatever.

Yeah. Because they're like, this is the Doctor's ultimate villain or whatever. And surprise, it's in episode six. And then in ten it was a couple of episodes in or whatever. And then they just switch it around. They just bring it around. Hoping people will be like, oh my God, we didn't expect this.

We always expect... Not this episode number. What happened to the Power Rangers Daleks? Remember them? Yeah, I remember those. I don't know. I guess they're the regular Daleks now. Yeah, because there were like five of them,

and they had different coloured shells. No, the Ultimate Daleks or whatever. Ultimate Daleks. They just disappeared? Yeah. We don't see them again? And they were created by Davros, weren't they? Correct.

Who turned up briefly and then disappeared forever. Yeah. Maybe they killed him. Yeah. Maybe they killed him. They probably killed him. I also find that... This happened a few times this episode, where the villain wasn't the villain and was a victim

of circumstances. Oh, yes. Like, at the end, it'd be like, this isn't a monster. This person's been manipulated. Right. And now you're free. That happened like eight times. Really?

Yes. I could probably count them. Yeah. The bug in the moon wasn't evil. Right. It was just a bug in the moon. Just a bug in the moon. Yeah.

We've all been there. There was a psychic kind of monster, kind of minotaur looking thing in Time Heist. Yeah. We've all been there. Was also not a villain. Uh-huh. The Dalek inside the Dalek, I think, wasn't that bad a Dalek. Oh, sure.

The mummy on the Orrington Express turned out to be also a soldier that was just trying to be relieved of his duty. Uh-huh. The Master handed over his army at the end. Sure, yeah. At the end. I can do this. Danny Pink Cyberman, obviously.

Yep. That's six. Unit Father's Dalek Cyberman. Yep. That's seven. Unit Father's... Unit Father....Dalek Cyberman. Yep. That's seven. One more. You can do it. Dalek Time Heist.

That's it. That's all I got, I'm afraid. Okay. If you think of number eight, you get a prize. Okay. Hang on, I need the episode list. I can do it if I have the episode list in front of me. Doctor Who Season 8.

Okay, Deep Breath. Who was the villain in that? Taking a deep breath. Yes Breath who was the villain in that taking a deep breath yes that was the villain oh yeah that was another thing

there was a really good episode that people liked called Listen which was this kind of psychological fear episode where Doctor Who believed that everybody

had the same dream where you wake up you swing your feet over the edge of your bed you put them on the floor and then somebody grabs you

and puts you over the bed right I don't know if I've ever floor, and then somebody grabs your foot from under the bed, right? I don't know if I've ever had that dream. Maybe I have it tonight. I'll let you know. Absolutely. And then it was like... He's like, everybody's being watched by this unseen force, and he's trying to figure out what it is or if it's even real.

Yep. Spoiler alert. It turns out that they're not real, that it's his paranoia. Okay, sure. And the people are like, that's amazing. But I was like, that's bullshit. I wanted a real monster. Yeah, definitely.

Like the monsters from Monsters, Inc. Exactly. I did it. I think every one of these episodes nearly, actually. Nobody's a villain. There's no actual villain. Okay, in the forest, in the night of the forest as well, trees appear. Yes.

Everywhere. Cover the whole planet. That's what a forest is, mate. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Uh- uh huh and then it turns out why the tree's gonna kill us is this the happening again

oh sure yep uh huh and then it turns out that it was just to deflect a solar flare huh so there's another example of the bad guys so most of these are not

heroic trees heroic trees okay yeah so there you go it's pretty much every episode except I think the caretaker which I think was just a flat out monster

that's really odd yeah huh anyway do you think they notice in the writing room no i don't think they do anyway whatever okay i think every now and then i do that is interesting but every episode it's weird yeah also i just want to quickly say maybe it's maybe it's because they don't want to is it because they don't want to commit to, like, a villain? No, because there's, like, you know, the Daleks are iconic and the Cybermen are iconic or whatever. They don't want to say, this is the new villain. And for people to go, it's no Dalek, it's no Cyberman or whatever.

Maybe they're like, no, it's just a good guy and wasn't that a good episode and we learn a lesson, like a moral... Like, if they don't commit people can't go well there's been a poor quality villain this season but I would argue that a lot of the newer villains are better than the older ones, like the silence I think was a really good one

people love those weeping angels did they come back? No but I think they overused the weeping angels in the end but that's a great episode, even like the new version of the Master. I preferred the last time the Master turned up. That was a great kind of twist. Do you remember that?

When he keeps his personality in his watch? Oh yeah, sure. He was John Simm. I remember that one. And there's also an episode prior to that where... Rogue Traders were in it for some reason. That song. Oh, they were too!

The Buddha Child song, yeah. That whole thing lets... That song... That dates, doesn't it Oh, they were too. A Buddha Child song, yeah. That whole thing lets... That song... That dates, doesn't it? That really dates. That really dates the episode, yeah. And there's an episode where Doctor Who puts his personality in a watch and then he works at a boarding school.

Oh, yes. And these monsters turn up to fight him. It's a David Tennant one. Did it turn out they were just misunderstood? No, it turns out that they were monsters. Right. Right. And at the end, Doctor Who gets out of his watch.

Uh-huh. Sure. He climbs out. Yep. And then he basically, he gives these guys a fate worse than death. He chains one to like a dying star or something. Uh-huh. By like these incredibly heavy chains.

Another one he traps in a mirror. And the other one he makes be a scarecrow for eternity or whatever. It's super dark. Uh-huh. And the Tenant Doctor's super dark and the the tenant doctor was super dark at times but the twist was the reason that he was running and hid was because he didn't want to kill them right and so he's like you backed me into a corner yep now you're gonna get it so that that was great yeah family of blood that's what it's called watch those ones is Giles from Buffy

in that one I don't think he might be maybe yeah anyway it doesn't matter no he's at the other one he's at the school

right and he's a he's a gargoyle vampire or something great love it yeah and canines in it great

but yeah Giles we've learned a lot about Doctor Who haven't we also I think they're paving the way for a female Doctor Who how so okay I think they're testingaving the way for a female Doctor Who. How so?

Okay. I think they're testing the waters with a couple of things. Yes. Clara's kind of taking, kind of stepping up more than a lot of the old companions have. Uh-huh. Secondly, the Master is female. Yes. Which means that it's confirmed now that, they may have already confirmed it, that Time

Lords can regenerate and change sex. Right. Thirdly, they're going to go, we're going to test the waters with an old doctor who people can accept an old man then i guess they can accept a woman right that's what i think they're doing i think the next one's going to be a woman if not the next one or one after or the one after that yeah maybe so what you're saying is at some point there may be a possibility that i think sooner rather than later interesting okay yeah right i would say that but the like just in the logic of the show Yeah

The master is a woman At this point Because he's Used up all his regenerations But apparently it's infinite Oh They kind of talked about that This season

Okay right It's just like We don't know Whatever Right well okay But anyway go on Because I was always Under the impression

That the master used up All his regenerations Like hundreds of years ago You get 13 He's used hundreds Because he becomes a worm Doesn't he Yeah yeah In the movie Like he master used up all his regenerations hundreds of years ago. You get 13. Because he becomes a worm, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah. In the movie. Yeah, the telly movie.

He's run out, so now he's using different techniques to sustain his life. So maybe this is just another one of those. But I think the limitations of you only get 13 regenerations is if the species is alive and you get a cap on your life. Oh, they've built it in. And I think now that everybody's dead, he gets as many as he wants. This is whatever, I think. Okay.

Also, again, I've said this before, he's so excited that Gallifrey is back, but the last time Gallifrey came back... They tried to kill him, right? And he dropped it into a time vortex and wiped it out. Yeah, I remember that. Timothy Dalton was there. Timothy Dalton was there.

But the reason he did that was because... They're real pricks. They're real pricks. They're all real pricks. The war changed them all. Yeah. So they shouldn't come back. Yeah.

So I don't know why he's looking for them. Like, it was a good thing. Because he... I don't know why he's so conflicted about destroying Gallifrey. Because he did it initially, even though it's not really destroyed. He thought he did. And then he did it again as tenant. Yep.

I just don't think... I don't know why he cares. I mean, obviously, it's everybody really destroyed. He thought he did and then he did it again as tenant. Yep. I just don't think, I don't know why he cares. I mean, obviously it's everybody you know, but he knows, he should know that it's for the better. Hmm. Yeah. I pay on it.

I pay out on it a lot. Yeah, yeah. But there's some very good episodes. It's like, but since he's met, I assume, tens of thousands of other people who are his friends and like him or whatever.

Yeah. It's like, they're like friends and like him or whatever. Yeah. It's like... They're like, we like you, man. It's like he keeps going back to like his high school friends who just, they all live in the same house and they don't, like they haven't moved on and they just smoke bongs all day. And he's like, oh no, I've got to make things right with my old high school friends on Gallifrey. And people are like, no, don't.

Just leave them to it. Yeah. That house smells weird. Yeah. Let them sort themselves out. Yeah. You got a few friends like that? Yeah.

Let's name them. Let's not. But that's all I have to say about Doctor Who. Pretty good. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to go back and I'm going to watch

those heist episodes. Okay, good. You should watch Family of Blood though. You've got to watch any Doctor Who. I think it's a double episode with Tenet.

Okay, cool. I'll write that down. You know what it's time for? What is it time for? What are we reading? Oh, yes. Oh, what are we going to read? That's the other part of that.

Yes. Yep. I'm doing nothing. What are you reading? Well, I've been reading some stuff, whatever. But what I'm actually going to watch this week, it's an Australian comedy. Oh, yes.

Good start. Look at your face. It's a black comedy. It's called The Mule. It's for digital download. It's got Angus Sampson from Greeks on the Roof. Oh, sure. I can see the look on your face. It's a black comedy. It's called The Mule. It's for digital download. It's got Angus Sampson from Greeks on the Roof. Oh, sure. Yeah.

Nobody knows what I'm talking about. Not at all. And Hugo Weaving. It's a digital download. But basically, it's about this drug, this accident. Hugo Weaving from Proof. From Proof. The film Proof.

Yes. And what else has he done that's dumb? That's it. That was a good film. It's fine. He was in Beef of Vendetta. Oh, yeah. He was dumb in that, wasn't he?

Yeah. Couldn't even know it was him with his face mask. Yeah. He was Meg good film. It's fine. He was in Beef of Vendetta. Oh, yeah. He was dumb in that, wasn't he? Yeah. Couldn't even know it was him with his face mask. Yeah. He was Megatron. He should have taken... Oh, he was Megatron. You're right. Megatron's own.

Hugo Weaving. There we go. But it's basically this drug mule who unwittingly becomes part of this, you know, drug mulling thing. And the police capture him and they're basically waiting for him to pass these drugs to his system. Apparently, it's very like... It's not pleasant to watch because it's quite gross but apparently if you can handle that it's apparently it's very funny and but it's australian so right i'm skeptical because they'll

be like this is a great australian comedy i'm like this isn't good yeah you just think it's good because there are no good australian comedies right well there's like three and two of them are crocodile dundee movies correct no that's not true I was in a short film About drug mulling I think it's on YouTube You can probably look that up What's it called? It's called Turkey Neck

Turkey Neck It's got some Australian comedians And stuff in it What are you doing in it? I got one line in it What is it? I was just there

Holding up lights and whatever And they're like How do you want it? And I'm like alright You're like who? Don't spoil it I'm not going to spoil it But you can look that up

I think it's Just go to YouTube And type in Turkey Neck I think it's on there How will they know it's you? You can see me I think my name's on it. But you can look that up. I think it's... Just go to YouTube and type in Turkey Neck. I think it's on there. How will they know it's you? You can see me. I think my name's on it. Okay.

Yeah. Well, as you appear on screen. Yes. I get a little pop-up. Yeah. A little pop-up video kind of situation. What I've been reading... I've been catching up on Brooklyn Nine-Nine

because that's been back for months. It's cool, isn't it? And I enjoy that. It's a good solid show. It is. It doesn't blow my mind, but everyone that's great. I put it on par with Parks and Rec,

which I really like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel it's getting stronger as well everyone, that's great. I put it on par with, like, Parks and Rec, which I really like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I feel it's getting stronger as well. Yeah. I feel, initially, I watched it and I was maybe a little bit let down, because I'd, like, 30 Rock and Parks and Rec had come before it. Yeah.

And it's on par with those, but it's not better than that. Like, it's not. No, no. Like, it didn't blow my mind, like, the first time I saw 30 Rock and, like, the second season of Parks and Rec, where I'm like, they've really stepped this up. It's on that level. It's good and it's funny. It's not funny enough. Yeah, that's right.

Thumbs up though. It's good. Everybody's great on that. Joe Latrullio is great on that. Who's Joe Latrullio? He's kind of the nerdy guy. Shortsleeve shirts. Oh, he's good, isn't he?

Yeah, he's good. Good guy. I love the captain in it. Yeah, he's good as well. Very serious captain. And I've also been catching up on Amazing Spider-Man, like the current series of that. After he's come back. after he's come back after he's come back it's good like it's enjoyable it's good fun spidey spidey's back fun loving spidey's back i know the only in in superior

spider-man when spider-man's body was taken over by dr octopus and he's put into a watch yeah that's yeah classic twist he falls in love with a girl uh this woman anna maria marconi yeah and now that spider-man's back she's kind of taking it in stride oh that her that her true love is is gone forever like yeah she's kind of like oh yeah yes i'm moving on there okay it's a little bit unrealistic but other than that i gotta finish superior spider-man sorry i gotta finish yeah it's pretty good but you probably come back though doesn't he doc ogg comes back ah good question we'll never know we'll never know exactly yeah well are you up to date on that though yes i see so he hasn't come back you know he hasn't come back you're way up to date

i'm way up to date it's only been like eight issues though okay cool maybe i'll read that mason it's pretty good it's good fun you like old school Spidey having fun times sure yeah it's one of the first comics I ever read was a Spider-Man comic but that's a story for another day which I think I've already told we just told it then yes that's pretty much this is from uh we got a listener reading who wanted to recommend a book recently read called The Girl With All The Gifts it's written by M.R. Carey who has done graphic novels for DC including Batman and Gotham Knights and Marvel yes Like X-Men and Fantastic Four. It's really good in its genre and I never thought I'd get along with. I won't say anything else about it because I think it's really benefited

from reading it and not knowing anything about it. Grab those gems. Thank you. So yeah, The Girl with All the Gifts. Love it. Interesting. Cool. Maybe you'll check that out.

Maybe it'll take pride of place on my bookshelf along with the Women's Weekly children's book. Yep. Birthday cake. And a Matthew reilly book called hover car oh that's not why i got like that someone said this is my favorite book and i lent it to me i haven't read it called hover car racer yes it is it's not a book for adults that's so odd next to that is the i get they always get these gifts for christmas from like an uncle. It's called Anatomy of the Spirit. I've talked about this before, but it's all these books like, if you just believe in yourself, your soul will follow your heart and then your dreams will come out of your eyes and you'll live forever or whatever.

Like The Secret. Yeah. You get a lot of books that are like The Secret. I think they're less kind of heavy-handed. I don't know because I've never read it. It's great. Pride of place. Pride of place. So yeah, I've never read it great Friday Place Friday Place so yeah

got some letters there for this week I'm ready let's listen to this is from Isaac Smart from Liverpool in the UK

where the Beatles the four Beatles I bet if you're outside of Liverpool and you say you're from Liverpool you get that

immediately and I apologise but I'm gonna keep doing it yes I have two questions for you are there any Australian superheroes no Hugh Jackman doesn't count And you say you're from Liverpool, you get that immediately. And I apologise, but I'm going to keep doing it. Yes. I have two questions for you. Are there any Australian superheroes? No, Hugh Jackman doesn't count.

Also, it's pronounced Hugh Jacked Man. Thank you, it is. So, what do you think? Do you mean... Firestorm's Australian, isn't he? Or is he bad? Who are you talking about? You're thinking Pyro.

I am thinking Pyro. No, I think you mean... Does he mean, like, created in Australia? The Phantom was created in Australia, wasn't he? I don't know if he was. Traditionally, the Phantom is Australia's premier superhero. Like, he's... Like, no, Australia's...

Like, I'd say the best-known superhero in Australia is the Phantom, probably. The Phantom of the Opera. The Phantom of the Opera. Um... Gosh. Captain Boomerang's. The Phantom of the Opera. Gosh. Captain Boomerang's not a superhero, but he's Australian. No, but he's Australian. No, I think they mean characters created in Australia. Does he?

Yeah, I think so. All right, let's have a look. I mean, because you'd know. You can just look up. I have no idea. No, because we had a tiny little comic book industry. Do we? I'm going to look it up.

There used to be a team, like a superhero, it's called Southern Squadron. They were kind of like... Hang on, I'm going to look this up. Because I remember there was a character called the Jackaroo. He was a... I don't think you could make a superhero who's Australian. I don't think it would work if they were like,

this guy's so Australian, look at all these boomerangs and bloody didgeridoos. Yeah, that's the kind of the... It's like making a Jamaican kind of superhero who's... Yeah, it's hard to make a superhero... It's hard for an Australian creator to create a superhero who's also Australian and not fall into the tropes of like, well, he's got, you know... He's Captain Australia and he's got an indestructible boomerang. Yeah. That kind of thing, yeah. Yeah. got, you know, he's Captain Australia and he's got an indestructible boomerang. Yeah.

That kind of thing, yeah. Yeah. Okay, I found a list. I remember reading... Hey! On your bed! Come on. Don't give me the face.

Come here. Sorry, go on. While I wrangle this dog. Oh, yeah, sure. There's a character... I remember reading a lot of... I'm going to be taking a shot a lot of Australian comic creators here.

Please do. They all seemed quite juvenile at the time. Like, there was a character... Like, you know, you'd pick up an Australian comic book and it was kind of like... Everything about it, they were trying desperately to be really cool in the comic book kind of thing. So it was like Big Spikes and Vandal Ears.

Yeah, not even really, but just an attitude and all the characters were... But I mean, I guess that was the 90s. Sure. There's a character called Zero Assassin and he was kind of like a super cool assassin guy and everything he did was super cool and everything he said was super cool. His kill count was zero?

Yes, it's just about. Okay, sure. I'm trying to remember the... Oh, I remember one. Mm-hmm. Cyberswine. He was a cybernetic police officer, cyborg, also a pig. Great.

Entertaining. There was a video game. Okay, cool. There was a whole... Yeah, okay. Look... Yeah, look, it wasn't great. This was the mid-90s.

But yeah, there was a... It might have been a Segad game or something like that it's pretty it's cyber swine he looks pretty cool right sure that's great all right i think we don't have an industry we don't have a comic book kind of writing industry i know there are writers but we don't really have it's mostly independent yeah it's mostly independent yeah so i don't know but i think a lot of our industry they're just like a smaller version of other industries yes like our film industry and our music industry is just smaller and worse basically correct but look i'm sure that you know what there are probably some people out there doing great stuff if you

are an independent comics creator in australia let me know because i would like to read some yeah absolutely stuff would be great some good stuff some good stuff does it have to be good can be mediocre stuff if you think your stuff is mediocre so he hit you up on the twitter yes let me know yeah i'm being excited all right all right he also he's zero assassin right he's that guy he's looking super cool but at the same time on the first cover of his issue it does say fabulous first issue at the bottom so that's kind of undercut his coolness right there thank you Isaac from Liverpool Liverpool Liverpool this is from Derek spelled D-E-R-Y-C-K I didn't know that

there you go I've learned something yeah the last podcast like Derek Wibley from Sum 41 okay probably

the last podcast came out on my birthday resulting in me spending the day locked in my room and regular laughs escaping downstairs happy birthday

oppa smashing plates whilst ignoring party guests locked in my room and regular laughs escaping downstairs. Happy birthday! Opa! Smashing plates. Whilst ignoring party guests is generally considered rude, I had a great time. Out of curiosity, what would be your favourite websites or apps

that you use? Don't know if this has been asked before since I'm a relatively new listener. I wish you all the success. Also, I'd like to be the official producer of long-winded comments. Love us.

Derek. Happy birthday, Derek. Love us. Happy birthday, Derek. What bar? But what are your favorite websites? Favorite apps. Apps or websites? There used to be, you can't get it anymore and it annoys me.

There used to be an app. Clock. Yeah, looking at a clock. There used to be an app where you could take a photo of all the sides of a Rubik's Cube and it would solve it for you. Oh, wow. Right? Which was incredibly, like it took a really long time to do that.

You could just learn the trick and solve it yourself in less time. But I enjoy that novelty. Yeah, absolutely. That's great. Okay, cool. Are we talking comics apps though?

Anything. Entertainment apps? Yeah. I'll go for you here. Okay, go ahead. FaceTime. Camera. App store.

Are you just listing apps from your phone? Is that what you're doing? Yeah. Mail. Safari. Music. Safari. Music. You are, aren't you?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for 10 more apps. If you'd just like to list 10 more apps. I've got a banking app here. Oh, yes. I've got Canabalt, which is an endless runner. Yeah, an endless runner game. But it's a really good one. It's like an 8-bit kind of one.

I don't really play that much. I've got Spotify. Spotify is the best. I've got The Room, which is a puzzle app where you can open a box. It's not based on the film The Room. It is.

Is it really? No. I wish it was. Disappointing for everyone. Which I haven't done yet. Actually, I got a gift for next year. Yes.

It was, you go, it's called The Room. It's like a puzzle thing in Melbourne. You go inside a room and you go to... Oh, it's an escape room. Escape room.

Yeah. And you got to work out how to escape. And I don't know... So I think that's why I got this. Oh, yes. But I don't think they're related. No. I don't really have anything

interesting though. No real interesting apps. Are there interesting apps? I can't do like any kind of gaming app because it just chews up all my time. Even if it's like Solitaire. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm like,

I'll just play one more before I go to bed. I'm like, why? What's the point? I'm wasting so much time here. Yeah. Comic book wise, I use Comic Flow and Comixology. Oh, it's Comic Flow.

Is that just a reader? Yeah, it's a reader. Okay, cool. All right, awesome. What about websites that you enjoy, you frequent? Do I frequent any? Well, I certainly frequent the wonderful comicbookmovie.com. Sure.

Yeah. I do spend a lot of time on that website actually just reading stuff because it's look and I know you know people like it if you obviously listen to this you probably go to it

but it's because there's editors from around the world working on it it updates really quickly so if anything's new that's probably the best place to go to

I go to like an IGN I don't mind a comingsoon.net I like film drunk a lot that's less for news more for like an interesting kind of take on like snarky comments yeah like snarky comments

yeah it's pretty good College Humour I don't mind there's got sometimes some good stuff I like Jake and Amir a lot of people like Jake and Amir Cracked obviously

MrSundayMovies.com soon to be I like Snapchat I'm enjoying that yes you are you had to take a bizarre Snapchat before we started what was that?

I can't remember yeah add me on Snapchat guys Yes, you are. You had to take a bizarre Snapchat before we started. What was that? I can't remember. Yeah, add me on Snapchat, guys. Nick Mayseau with five O's at the end. Don't send me dicks. Don't send me dicks. Will you respond? Maybe or maybe not.

Okay, cool. Yeah, all right. But yeah, I am. Do you listen to a lot of, this is off topic. Do you listen to a lot of other movie podcasts? No. listen a lot of other movie podcasts no see i don't i assume we're the best why would i want to why would i want to crush that illusion by listening to 10 minutes of anybody else's podcast yeah like i i try not to especially similar ones because i don't want to i want to i think it influences me i think i i'm sure a lot of people do this but i've caught myself doing it I'll subconsciously absorb something and then regurgitate it which I think might be

my entire personality definitely yes yeah for a while it was just Simpsons quotes now it's just pieces from other people's movie podcasts so I do

most of the podcasts I listen to aren't movie ones so do you listen to what do you we've talked about this I'm sure but yeah

there you go that's what we read no what are we doing something about letters thanks Derek happy birthday this is from Jason J oh yes

we get asked about this all a lot so I thought we'd address it just knock it on the head yes hello James junior editor

just regular editor thank you Jason and Maceo hello one word merchandising why haven't you I'd buy like

3.5 t-shirts of Han Solo with a goat head if you had them available probably so start pumping them out your dickheads you also they you gave me a shout out but mentioned there was already a friendly neighborhood spider-man this will not do i hereby challenge whoever it is to it uh wherever the other spider-man is to the first annual adjective extravaganza i am now the amazing Spider-Man, therefore making myself better than the aforementioned regular Spider-Man. Your move.

Ooh, is amazing better than friendly neighborhood then? Well, which is, hmm, good question. Let's assume yes. This guy should fight. Guys, find each other on Snapchat and send each other insulting Snapchats. Yes. We've not really talked about this at all.

We've kind of just dismissed merchandising because it's really expensive to produce. Is that right? Now that I think about it, how high res is that image that you have, which is Han Solo with a goat head? Because I would wear that on a t-shirt. Like I wouldn't wear, because I feel if we were going to make something, I couldn't wear a t-shirt with the logo of the podcast that I'm on.

Yeah, sure. I feel like it would be a bit odd, but I would wear a t-shirt with Han Solo with a goat head okay yeah well i don't yeah it's pretty high res so if not i could make it more high res maybe so you're saying that we should do it but i don't even know how to go about this and whatever and i feel like we'd print like a lot and then they wouldn't sell and then we'd be stuck with them also i don't want to be sending shit out all day right i mean like mailing stuff but i'm sure there's probably websites that kind of print your order and send it off to you well there's Redbubble

we can put something up on Redbubble see how that goes okay sure yeah alright does it cost it doesn't feel official though you know

does it cost anything look let's put this on the back burner alright so we might do it we might do it or we might not but thanks for the idea

good idea Goat Heart Solo love it how much is a is a t-shirt at Redbubble's like 26 bucks or something US yeah cool that's the show for this week Good idea, Goat Heart Solo, love it. How much is a t-shirt at Red Bubbles? Like 26 bucks or something.

US? Yeah. Cool. That's the show for this week. Great, Mason. Yeah, yeah. I thought if you've made it to the end of the show, we don't do this enough,

James Senior made a comment that said, mock.j. Oh, yes. So if you made it to the end of the show, hashtag mock.j. Oh, yeah. To us at... Oh, you can find us on, at Weekly Planet Pod at Gmail and on Facebook and on Twitter.

Yes. And I'm at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter. And I'm at MrSundayMovies on Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and also Patreon if you care to support or not. Thank you to the... A lot of people have been very generous on that. It's pretty sweet. Ridiculously generous.

Yes. Some people cancel your donations. Talk amongst yourselves. Six people cancel your donations Talk amongst yourselves Six people cancel your donations No it's fine You're all great Yeah it's pretty good We're gonna read that list

But uh We don't Understand how that works Yes Um Thank you to the Bruton The Baskalisk For the themes as well

Absolutely They're great We're gonna do more of those Never go back We are Where we play a video game poorly And You know what

Having seen the last one like the first one that came out I'm kind of jazzed to do to do more yeah came out alright yeah came out alright because I messaged you

I'm like what do you think and you're like yeah pretty good then I'm like cool then I'm like wait a minute what does that mean is it not good actually I haven't put it out yet I'm literally going to put it out

after we finish this so I don't know how people will react to that might be too long it's like 25 minutes great intro though great it's okay fantastic that's it that's the show love it So I don't know how people will react to that. It might be too long. It's like 25 minutes. Great intro though. Great. It's okay.

Fantastic. That's it. That's the show. Love it. Brew the Baskers. Thank you. I think I said that. Next week, I think we might be doing mid-season wrap-ups depending on which shows wrap up.

It might actually be none. It might actually be the week after. Okay. So we'll see how we go. Yeah. It's a mystery. It is a mystery. Life is a series of mysteries and challenges.

And people hugging you when Don't hug me That's all I'm saying I don't like being hugged Send him graphic snapchats instead Do you like being hugged? Actually not If I have a few drinks

I'll love a hug But other than that Not a fan There you go Get away from me Also hate the kiss on the cheek Stupid I remember

Why are we ending on this? I don't care what you remember about this. I had a group of friends at UD, and you'd be like, I'm going to get a sandwich, and then it'd be kisses on the cheek all around. From a sandwich? Because you were going to be away for ten minutes. Yeah, I just... Weird.

No. Why do you have to press your face against someone else's face? Why? Let's leave on that. I do it! Let's leave on old... I do do it but i don't like it old personal display of affection affection grinch over here let's leave on that thanks for listening everybody wrap that jam guys bye

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